Daily Tech News Show is made possible by its listeners, every single one of you. Thanks to all of you and happy holidays! This is the Daily Tech News for the Daily Tech News Show for Wednesday, December 28th, 2022 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Marin. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. I said Daily Tech News Show because this is not a show about news. This is one of our special holiday episodes. It's our first attempt at a reminiscence episode. And we're not going to reminisce about our own holidays. We're going to talk about our shared experience working at Tech TV. We know a lot of you watched Tech TV back in the day. You may have followed one or more of us from those days right down to this very show here. So we thought it'd be fun to talk about like how we met each other there and how we work together and all that sort of thing. Who's going to start us off? I can. I think of all three of us. I am the one that probably started the earliest. And I started in the... You either did or you did. Well, no. I mean like it's quite... It's quite possible. History will never know. I don't want to say anything too crazy. Roger started at Tech TV before you two knew each other from college. Yes. But you were like... Roger and I were in the same broadcasting program in college and we knew each other. You graduated in 98, right, Raj? Yes, correct. So same. Maybe. I mean, so we... But I went to work somewhere else before that and Roger was at Tech TV when I got there and it was sort of like, oh, I know you. Hi. But yeah, what was it like when you got there? I started as an intern back in the summer of 98, actually the beginning of summer. So the beginning of June I started and it was the weirdest thing because I remember going in for my intern interview to get a position and I wanted to get a position with the web group. And I interviewed with the head of web at that time who was Lucia. And I don't know if either one of you remember her, but she was very intimidating. Her and Ali Hoseini, they were going through and they were kind of giving me the third degree of me and along with another individual about what they needed, what they planned to do, and what they expected out of us. And while they were talking, Lucia had to get up and figure something out for the website. While she was away, Ken Marcus at the time, all these desks were right next to each other. Ken Marcus, one of the producers at Screen Savers, was like, hey, do you want an internship? And I kind of looked at him and I said, he poached you? Yeah, he poached me from web to go to TV.  I'll take you. It's like, yeah, I was like, yeah, totally. It's like, yeah, just show up here next week at this time and we'll orient you and it'll be great because we need interns. We're launching in two weeks. They really emphasized we're launching in two weeks. We need as many people as we can because there's so much work to be done. It was the most hilarious thing.  Did you end up getting offered the web thing at all? Or did they, you know, they poached me. They poached Ken Marcus, like, yeah, I'm taking him. Oh, so when she came back, he's like, sorry, he's gone. I took him. And lesson to all, don't leave your own intern meeting or that intern's gonna get poached. Don't have everyone sitting two feet away from each other because they can hear each other's conversation. Don't leave Roger unattended. Yeah. Yeah. And at the end of the summer, they decided to hire me as a PA because at an open position, I knew 80% of everything and they needed someone right away. I was working at half price books. I was an assistant manager in charge of stocking. So I was handling ordering the remainders and things like that. And Austin, Texas, and my friend had moved out to San Francisco and said, jobs are falling from trees out here. You should come out here. So she went on the San Francisco Women on the Web mailing list. It was an email list and started forwarding me job descriptions. One of them was for working at a place called surf monkey, which made an internet explorer browser bar that would make your browsing kid friendly. Another one was at Future Media, working at one of the Mac publications. And the third one that I decided to respond to was ZDTV. And I got offered jobs at all three, but I took the one at ZDTV because I was the most interested in technology, radio, television, and it was all there. So I started as associate producer on the web for the screensavers. And the way I met Roger was my first day, I believe it was September 8th, 1999. They told me, well, one of the things you'll need to do is take the question from the screensavers and turn it into web content. Roger here will give you that information in Lotus Notes. So Roger was literally the first person I had to work with. There were others that followed, but that was the first person that I was like, okay, you spell your name with a D because it's spelled with a D here in Lotus Notes. And he was like, no, I don't know why that's like that, but that's not how you spell my name. It was a very interesting thing. They didn't change that until my final year. It was R-O-D-G-E-R. Well, so when I got to tech TV, while I was in college, when Roger and I were in college at the same time, I was interning at the NBC affiliate, which is no longer the NBC affiliate in the Bay Area, but at the time it was K-R-O-N-T-V. And I had an internship there and I was working sort of on like this documentary with this great producer. I loved it. It was awesome. And I kind of had a job lined up for when I graduated, and that is extra. I got really lucky, good timing. I ingratiated myself with the right people, so I kind of had a job. And it was doing sort of new media web documentary kind of, there was a local programming section, which I'm very sure Kron doesn't have anymore. But at the time it was, you know, you had the Bay Area Backroads and all those folks, anybody who doesn't live in the San Francisco area is going to be like, I don't know that show, but you know, pretty beloved group of sort of news magazine, 30 minute type package shows. So I was doing that for a while, and while I was doing that for, gosh, I guess it would have been, well, if I graduated in 98, no, no, no, no. So almost the better part of three years. And kind of people kept getting either fired or they would leave and I would get promoted, because they would just be like, well, maybe Sarah can do it. You know, like the really young kid who just graduated college. So I kind of got into a position where my resume actually looked pretty good considering that I didn't have all that much experience and I had just been interning So Tech TV, I actually, I applied for a job at Freshgear and I got the job. This is before I ever started at the screen savers and my current employer at the time, they were sort of like, ooh, if she leaves we're a little screwed. So they just like offered me a raise to stay. That's why I did it. I was like, well, that's easier, you know, like, because I don't even know if I would like the new job type thing. So I turned down the Freshgear job. I think Becky Worley actually interviewed me way back in the day. And so, and I think, I think some of the Tech TV folks who sort of, some of them had even sort of been through the rankings at this local news station that I was at. And so people sort of knew each other.  Well, turns out Peter Hammersley was one of the people who was in the mix in my local news station before he worked at Tech TV. He was a producer on Bay Area Backroads, right? He was, yeah. And he knew one of the producers that I was an intern for really well. And she vouched for me.  I mean, he could, he could basically get somebody hired if he wanted to type thing. So the screen savers were ramping up quite, I don't know, quite a few positions. It seemed like I was not just one person that they hired. It was expanding the staff. Yeah, me and 10 other people type thing. And I got hired for a role. And I think, I think a few people who worked at the station were like, yeah, let's, you know, she did turn down that Freshgear role last year. But let's bring her in. And that sort of, so he reached out to you for that. Yeah, no, I don't, I don't even, I don't know that I would have known this otherwise, but I was sort of, I was a little bit at least in the HR mix at that point. So yeah, I remember I got hired and I didn't really know what was going on. I knew what's weird is that my cousin, who's a little bit older than me, but she used to work at Tech TV. In fact, Roger, you probably knew her before you ever saw me again after college. She was a TD, technical director. So I was familiar. Can you not say her name or? Well, Kelly Creffield. That's my cousin. She and I did not work there at the same time she had left. She went to CNN, but she was, she was kind of like, you know, cutting her chops, you know, in the control room at Tech TV. So she, I knew from her that it was like kind of a pretty cool place. And you know, a lot of stuff was going on, a lot of things were changing. So yeah, I showed up and my first day I was like, I know a lot of people from college on this show, the screen savers specifically, like people running the cameras, people in the control room. I had a lot of them. I knew everybody. I was like, this is crazy.  Well, I thought after graduation, we all just said bye. The funny thing about both these stories is that it shows just how difficult it was to find people in San Francisco at that time. The reason that they were willing to hire some guy who worked at a bookstore out of Austin was was probably, you know, sure, I'm sure I was a decent candidate, but also there weren't a lot of other folks you could find.  It wasn't in turn with the web group. And I had to come from halfway across the continent. I distinctly remember sort of the vibe of the place because you have to remember this is the time of the dot com bubble. And so everything was very every the company had it. The company staff had a unofficial Deadpool where they would basically rate who's the next person that's going to leave for a new startup or a web company or something like that because they were believing we were getting goodbye notes at least once a week at least once a week for for the better part of six months that never stopped because for a while it was everybody's finding jobs with like crazy stock options or wonderful salaries and this and that and tech TV was a small thing. It was owned by Ziff Davis who won, you know, they were owned by soft bank. So they were part of this big corporate conglomerate. They weren't throwing money at it. You know, they they were spending on it. They were willing to lose money on it in order to get it up and running, but they weren't like some of these dot com startups that were just tossing around money like like wild. And so you had people leaving for that until you didn't. And then you had people leaving involuntarily, right? It switched from people leaving to take sweet jobs to people getting laid off like in a heartbeat. It was also and part of this is I think because so many of us were, I mean, maybe not, you know, I mean, I was right out of college. Roger was right out of college. Tommy couple years, right? I mean, when you're when you're Yes, just a couple. No, I mean, you're not that much older than me. But I was eight years out of college, I guess. I mean, when I think of, you know, the the early days of tech TV was like, I'm like, yeah, you know, you have a salary, you're living in San Francisco, that's expensive. But I mean, I also had roommates and, oh yeah, you know, you're eating ramen a lot. And and like that was all fine because you're young. And I think that, you know, to kind of look back on how much work some of us put in. I'm not even talking about myself specifically, but just how much work was put into a lot of these projects. Probably pretty underpaid staff. That's that's that's that's that's just we were all we were all paid much less than most other people working in the Bay Area and in similar levels at similar ages. No doubt about that. However, I never felt that way because I had been living in Austin making 21,000 a year. And my starting salary that I negotiated, I was like, well, I can I can't take less than 30,000. I got 30,000 for the associate producer level because I pushed for it. And I felt like I was swimming in it. Right. Because even with the higher cost of living of San Francisco, you know, I had I had had no extra money in Austin. And so suddenly I had I was making $9000 more a year. Granted, some of that went to rent. But I ended up I got a promotion because my boss left after three months and I got promoted into her job. And so I took the extra money I got from that promotion and found a studio apartment. It was an attic apartment. It was really small, but it was it was I didn't have to have roommates. So I always felt like I was living the luxury life even though we still weren't paid that much. I would I'll have to say that when I started, I didn't find out till later that someone said like you actually qualify for income assistance. Prager did that. He got he got I remember he said this at the time publicly to anybody asked he qualified for assisted housing because the amount he was being paid. I said like, man, if I knew that I wouldn't have lived in the last place I got I had to leave because I was paying I didn't wasn't paying a lot, but I was living not far away, but in a very inconvenient location and my landlord would lock the door at like 9 p.m. So I had to get home before 9 p.m. It was the oddest. That is very odd. Yes. And so not a good rental agreement. I didn't have a key. Well, it was the chain on the door because I lived in the long unit. And so that was the only way to get in. I see. I see. So after that I found my own place. Not sure that's legal, but yeah, whatever. You know, listen, I was in my I was in my early 20s. I didn't know what I could get away with what I was all supposed to be able to do. I mean, when I was in my early 20s, I was definitely living with roommates, definitely living in like, you know, I lived in a I can't remember what they call that, but where you just have a room or a boarding house, boarding house, where you just have a room and there's other people who have rooms and then you share the kitchen, you share the bathrooms with everyone else in the house. Yeah, I mean, that's how my roommate experiences have been. I never had like my own en suite, like bedroom and bathroom just to myself. This is like a house of like eight people. Oh, wow. And you're not roommates. You're each paying directly to the landlord for your room in the house. I will say, bouncing off of what Tom just said about like living a large that was in Austin. That's the life, so to speak. I was awestruck when I got when I was an official employee because I thought this is my first career job. And I was so intimidated by everything. It's like, this is a broadcast, you know, company cable.  They're like people with years of experience. Oh, yeah. Like money is writing on the stuff that I do that I don't screw up. And so I was very nervous for like a year and a half that I did.  And I said, Roger, there's a we don't even have a 10 second delay. So watch your mouth. And the website was put on the air, which was a new thing. Not not everybody was doing that. And so I was like, the things I write on the web are going to show up on a national television. I also remember the realizing my first realization that it wasn't as big as you think was when I was able to justify slipping a link to my website, some brilliant.com into one of the articles. And then I waited for all the huge traffic, kind of like four clicks of it. I was like, oh, okay, this isn't necessarily as crazy. This is the great thing about that about at the time it was ZDTV before before Paul Allen bought it and changed the name. But there was so much to learn. But there were so many of my peers that were kind of not not in the same boat, but in a similar level of learning on the job. And it was great because we had a lot of people who in senior positions who were very understanding. And I remember when Josh Gingold talked to me, he was the old producer for screen savers said, Roger, I don't care if you mess up on my show, because at the time I had to take care of call for help and screen savers, I can lose something on my show. Just make sure that call for help is taken care of because we had a new producer and she needed some help trying to some runway to get up to speed. It's like, you know, do what you can to help her. I can manage it.  And it was so amazing because he was very, very mentor ish in a way like he's like, you know what, we screwed up on this, that's great. But I have a better producer because of it, because now that you've went through this, you know, I something blew up on one of the segments. So now that we've gone through this, we know what not to do next time or what to do better next time. And I thought that was so cool, right?  And here I was was giving a pep talk learning experience. Yeah. And I thought like to me that was such an unusual thing. Because in all my jobs, I was used to if anything blew up, you get yelled at because that's what you did. You know, when I started at Tech TV, I had quite a bit of experience with live television because I had worked for this local station. And even though I was mostly working on more sort of packaged news magazine shows, you know, which is not live, it's, you know, you kind of just put everything together ahead of time and make it a 30 minute show type thing, which lots of shows still do. I did work in the newsroom quite a bit and I became very quickly disillusioned like, wait a second. So the 11 o'clock news is the best one, you know, those are like the best anchors. That's actually the one that you want to be on. But that means you have to work until midnight. And that's what you do.  But the disillusionment was mostly I liked the live aspect of everything, but I was just like, gosh, news is so bad, you know, if it bleeds, it leads type thing. And you know, so I would write these little blurbs, you know, right, right, right, right.  And you know, here's the update on, you know, the war that's going on at, you know, whatever was happening in the world at that time. I was like, well, this isn't fun at all. And then when the tech TV thing came around, it was like, well, you know, I remember people being like, well, how much are you really into like tech? And I'm like, a lot, actually. I mean, it just as a hobby, that's definitely my thing. I just never knew that I could just go to a network where I do that all day. I thought that it was either like news or it would be like some tech thing, but not both. So tech TV was, it was like, it was like someone handed me a gift and said, would you like to talk about the things that you're interested in all day and also get paid to produce segments on those topics? And I was like, yes, I'm good. And then, you know, and it like I'm still doing it today. There are times where I was taking products home to test and it's like, oh my god, I'm at a job that's letting me take home $1,500 worth of computer equipment to test and then write about and produce a segment and then take it, you know, back to the studio to go on air and talk about it.   And I was like, really? This is like the most bizarre thing. It's like so cool. But it's like, how did I get this job? I don't really know. Well, like any good VH1 special, we're going to turn to the dark things that happened shortly. But before we do, I want to remind you, if you want to know something about our time at Tech TV, you can send us an email. We'll answer it. Feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. And that's what it all fell apart. No, I oversold this. I'm laughing because that's not really what happened to any of us. But I do want to put out here that, and I don't know if y'all agree with me or not, but I felt like the entire time I worked at Tech TV, which was, you know, from when it was ZDTV in 99 until it got bought from Comcast and merged into G4 in 2004, everyone complained. Everybody liked working with each other, but everybody complained about, ah, this company, and why are they making these decisions? And it got, especially when it got into layoffs. I always felt the vibe was like, this place is so messed up until the day we were all gone. And then suddenly it was like, oh, Tech TV, the best years of our lives. We never really appreciated what we had back then. I think that's fairly normal, honestly, to always be complaining about the thing you're doing at the time, but then look back on it fondly. Do you feel the same way? Kind of. I mean, so I was part of the folks who did join G4 and moved to Los Angeles. And at the time, that was like a huge thing where I was like, wait, so I can keep my job, but I have to move to LA. And that was, you know, there was a little bit of, you know, sort of a personal life struggle going on there. But I went and, you know, so that next chapter for me kind of, it continued with some of the Tech TV people that I knew, you know, and I liked very much, but only like a, you know, a small fraction of the people that I had gotten used to working with. And I do get that question a lot of people being like, you know, what was so special about Tech TV? And it's like, I don't know, because you're right, Tom. We all did complain. And it wasn't run all that seamlessly most of the time. They took the instant oatmeal out of the kitchen. I can't believe these cheap people. Yeah, or just weird, you know, like, I don't know, format changes for shows, you know, wherever it would be like, what is happening? But it was also, I don't know. And I think the time and the fact that so many of us were young, not everybody was like 22 years old, but there were just a lot of young people who were like, they wanted to date each other. They wanted to hang out on Friday after work.  Well, you know, it's weird. Someone brought that up to me. I had a guest on and he was used to do it. He came from a network TV background, but he was talking to us like, your operation is very, very interesting. You said, like, everyone is on good terms with each other. You hang out with each other. You're like friends with each other. It's like, in cable TV, that never happens. As soon as you're out the door, your private life begins. And you know, it's like, I'll see you tomorrow. And it's like, the fact that you guys are now going to a bar having worked eight hours in the same day with each other. And you really just want to keep hanging out with these people. And that was very normal. I mean, I had friends that were outside of tech TV, but I would say the majority of my social life was my tech TV people. And I didn't realize how abnormal or unusual that was until I went into other production companies where I was like, you know, contract or short term. And that that wasn't the case. And it was just like, I guess it is kind of weird that because we all went to school with each other. We all went to work with each other. We just naturally had the same sort of groupings. Well, and I think as someone who didn't go to school with any of you, at least until I started hiring people from Austin to come into the company, I think there was just something about the age, right? Where it felt like a continuation of like, oh yeah, when you're done with class, you hang out with your classmates. And even though I was older and had been out of college for longer, it just the atmosphere permeated, right? And I'm not any different in the fact that I think everybody that I hung out with for the most part until I went to see that were the people from work, probably because I'd moved across the country. And I had my friend who had sent me the job descriptions and a couple of her friends that I would hang out with. I had one other friend I knew from Austin who had moved out there that I would hang out with. Everybody else were people I knew from work, including my eventual wife who I met because I was doing ZDTV radio and she was in charge of ZDTV radio. So yeah, it was in some ways it could probably sound like a bad idea to be so insular, but I think the complaining was part of the bonding, if that makes sense, right? It was all of us getting together after work and saying like, oh, can you believe Wang Berg is making that decision? Or why did Hammersley tell us to do that? It's like the typical complaining about the boss, not that either one of those guys were particularly awful, they weren't. But it's just that sort of like, the management, why are they doing that? The way you always do in any job you have.  Yeah, yeah. And you might love the professor, but you got that thing that you're like, I can't believe she does that. There's a bonded experience. And what's interesting is, and I really mean we hung out, like Marcus Bewick, one of the audio guys, he would throw a monthly iron chef party and he would have a theme and everyone would bring food and it would just be like a huge excuse to have a party at his place. Or they would do regular camping trips every quarter. They would do a lift to Tahoe, they would go up to the Russian river. It was a thing where people still stayed connected after work. It wasn't like, well, I have my work life, I have my... And even though we weren't a startup, it was a very startup-y feel. And I think startups have similar vibes to them. I definitely had it. I mean, there were definitely people that I bonded with more than others. It wasn't just like, oh, I now have 30 best friends. That never really works like that, even in real life, outside of work. Some of my still absolute best friends, I met at Tech TV. And we spent a lot of time kind of like you're talking about, Roger, working together, certainly, and helping each other out and seeing how the other person is good on the job or maybe needs some help and then hanging out afterwards. And it was something new. I think that was the other thing. Television wasn't new, but this kind of television was new. And the internet wasn't new, but putting the internet into television wasn't new. And I'm constantly surprised when I think back like, oh, we were the first ones rolling chat live on something that's totally normal. We solicited emails that Roger would then write the answers to that I would edit and publish and put on the web that Leo and Kate would answer. And just the content in general, kind of going back to the whole like, are you into tech or not? It's like, I remember when I worked at the news station beforehand, it was like, oh, these are veterans. And I can learn a lot from these people, but they're tired. And it's not about like, there's no, like tech slant on the local news. Imagine going into one of those producers. Yeah, imagine going into one of those producers and saying, I got an idea. I want to send people cameras, get them to install software and connect the camera to their laptop to their computer to their desktop to their computer. And then we'll have them call us with video, and then we'll have them on our show. No way, there's no way they would they would be like, first of all, that sounds way too complicated. And then who are these people? Why are we putting them on air? Like, or even just me being like, hey, producer of local news, I'd like to, you know, give me three minutes and put me on the set. And I'm just going to walk through how to defrag your computer. Right, right. And it's going to be so helpful, like everyone's going to love me. Like they say, what are you talking about? What is defrag? B, why is anyone in our audience going to care? And like, and who are you? And no. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's so fascinating. You say that because one of the things, one of the proudest things I am that I am about the work I did over there was that like, when people talk about like, oh, our show touched people's lives, we got feedback directly from viewers that said that much. I still remember getting emails from the Middle East, from the Caribbean, from the Southeast of the United States, where people are saying, thank you so much. You know, you have helped me solve a problem that has been like, because computers are still a very mysterious, you know, a contraption for most people at the time that you didn't even have. You think things are buggy now, people? My gosh. Yeah. They were so fiddly. I mean, when I did the house cause, I literally went to someone's house and fixed their problem. And it was just like, hey, this is, it's simple for me, but like a lot of people was life changing. I didn't really appreciate that until I started. I mean, one of the best studs the screen savers ever did was to install an operating system live. And it took the whole show. In fact, I'm not even sure it was done installing. They did a live install of Linux on the show. And I think it took more than an hour. Oh, definitely. No, it definitely took more than an hour. Yeah. And just the community that we were able to build, because we built it from scratch. Like we had people who were fans who wrote in, but they were the first people we gave those Netcam, part of the Netcam network to, and people had to be tech savvy enough to install, open up their PC, install a card, close it up, install the software, make sure it worked, plug in the camera, make a call, call us. And it was just like, it was just chat with Dan Mitchell to get it all set up. Everything that we see right now on CNN, MSNBC, Fox or whatever, where they have someone calling through Skype or Cisco's, whatever that program us. This is mostly Skype these days. Or Zoom. It might even be Zoom. Or Zoom. I mean, I was just like, yeah, we started that. Like we did, the picture was really small and we had to put a graphic over it. So people didn't realize it was a small square. I had to maintain that page. The one that told people like, if you use it, if you use, I think the effect, I'm pretty sure the way it was is like, download this, unless you use an Apple computer, then you have to download this one. Yeah, I never, I was not a Mac user until I left tech TV. Even for a couple of years after that, I was like, I'm just not a Mac person, which is funny because I'm so a Mac person now. But yeah, I was like, I was very like, oh, God, who uses Mac? That just makes me think of overhearing. Jerry Day, because I sat in the screensaver section, even though I worked on both shows through large parts of my time there. Before I moved into the office, I was sitting in a cube. I heard Jerry Day raving about like, because he used a Mac. He was one of the few people who used a Mac. Like you have to install Sherlock. Sherlock is the grow. I have you nodded like he was convincing people to install Sherlock, which, and that's how I discovered Sherlock. In fact, that's how I discovered a lot of things was just overhearing people talking about them. And of course, now Sherlock is not even a thing, but it's used as the term for when Apple steals a function because Apple eventually put the search that Sherlock did into the operating system and killed Sherlock, right? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I remember Google was the same way. I think I just heard Leo telling someone about it and saying, we should probably look who these people are and get them on the show. The search engine is amazing. It's way better than Alta Vista. And it's just incredible to think how many of the things that are just perfectly normal background information to technology were new then. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, I remember specifically sometimes because before I was ever on the screensavers as somebody that you would see, I was a producer behind the scenes for a couple of years, really, or the better part of a couple of years. And I would be assigned to like, okay, you're going to do this segment with Leo or Patrick or whoever. And every once in a while, let's say Leo would be like, I have a good tip, like a Mac tip. And like, yeah, like two to three minutes type thing. And so it'd be like, okay, Sarah, you make that segment look as good as possible. And I'd be like, but I don't have a Mac. And I don't know what he's talking about. I can't do it. And, you know, life is very different now. It is, even if someone were to be like, hey, Sarah, you want to do like a Windows 11 tip? I'd be like, well, all right, I'll figure it out. I can make it work. But it all seemed very daunting back in the day. You kind of stayed in your lane, I guess, what you were good at. I know, haha. Literally in your case. I remember being excited about little things like that. I remember, in fact, I remember the first time I got wireless networking going in my house.  And I felt, as Allison Sheridan always says, like I made fire. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm not, I'm not plugged in to anything. I'm, but I'm surfing the internet. I'm on the, I'm on my DSL connection without any, without any connection to it. And I remember talking about that, you know, I was like, oh, I did it. I got, I put in the card and I got the wireless router up. And Chris Perillo was just like, oh, welcome to the internet. It was like, okay, fine. Yeah, it took me a little, you know, an extra minute or two to get there. But it was, it was super exciting. But that was the, that was the, the world we were living in is like, we were doing things like I was doing something that maybe one to 2% of people had done at that point in the United States. And it was still, I was still behind other people who worked there because we were just all doing all the things all the time. Yeah. Yeah, it was, I mean, I, I certainly learned a lot. I, there were definitely things where I was like, I'm teaching the world about this on the show today, live in five minutes. And I learned it 10 minutes ago. You know, and like, I know what I'm doing, but I really did just learn this. I mean, it was, it was free education, well, not free education to be paid for in pennies, I guess. But I don't know. I think of that time very fondly. There's one question that I know people will have who visited techTV.com, because as the person who ended up running techTV.com content, it was always at the top of my list of most trafficked pages, the Sarah Cam. Yeah. The Sarah Cam. And this was not even a live webcam. No. I think it refreshed every 10 seconds. Something like that. Something like that. It just took a still picture, uploaded it to a server, and then showed up on our website. And yeah, it was just like a link that, I don't know, got popular. Here's the thing, I was not the only person who had a webcam at her desk. And in fact, I had a webcam at my desk before you ever saw me on the screensavers. I didn't, I had not, I had not been sort of some front-facing personality, but I was enthusiastic about it because I was like, this has got to be fun. Well, like, you know, we'll decorate my cube. And Megan Maroney sat right behind me.  And it was sort of a silly thing. And then I got a taste. And then I was like, you better put me on television, people. And so, yeah, and that was sort of the beginning of that. I don't know why it was, I really just mostly just sat there looking at my computer. It was not that compelling. But I think, I think it was the novelty of it, of like, oh, I'm seeing one of the people on the team working, like, you know, now that feels like that it's the opposite. Now, now people will be like, that's creepy, that's workplace surveillance. You, you shouldn't do that. What are the privacy implications? But the fact that you could do it at all was the point then. And that you were, you were excited about it, that you were like, yeah, let's do this. Like, I'm cool with that. And we weren't showing your screen or anything. Like you said, it wasn't a live stream. It was just stills. I think, you know, for a lot of people who are like, wait, so it was like, it was like a Twitch stream, but not even really live. It's like, yeah, there was no, the live thing, we weren't ready for that yet. I don't remember how the page would refresh. The page auto refresh, which is one of the secrets for why it was so highly trafficked because it kept getting page views, you know, as people stayed on it, but people would stay on it. Yeah, you write a little something to like, hi, I'm eating salad today for a while, like so stupid, like, but it was, it was like, I don't remember how we ended up with that. It was the early days of blocks. How we ended up with those cameras. Yeah, do you? Yeah, so the idea was we wanted to get more traffic to the websites. Well, yeah, always. Oh, no, but, but I remember the meeting and one of the ideas, I think Henry Kaiser and someone else pitched this is like, why don't we show them what goes on behind the scenes? Oh, okay. Because people want to see that stuff. And so, whoops. Originally they, they did a test cam on call for help where we had a pair of, we had a pair of fish in a fishbowl that. Oh, right. I forgot about the fish. For a segment. And then we said, like, why don't we just put the camera on them and see if people enjoy it? And it did. And they said, well, why don't we just expand this out to other stuff? Why don't we expand it to the screen savers? Expand it out to fresh gear? Why don't we expand it out to fish? And Sarah? Yeah, yeah. I think it was, I think the original idea was like, oh, some of the employees, if they want to participate, it was not mandatory. But if you want to like, you kind of get like, oh, I get the webcam for the week. You know? So it would be like, oh, it's Sarah week or it's Morgan week or it's Craig or week or whatever. I think that's how it all started. That's how it started. Yeah. I was the one who was like, no, I'm not giving up this camera. Because Morgan had one and then she didn't, she didn't want to do it anymore. She was like, yeah, it's just, I don't think it was creeping her out. She was just like, it's too much pressure. Yeah. Made her think. So she ended up getting rid of hers. Kevin had one, I feel like. Probably. But I don't remember if or when he stopped having it. I think most people were just sort of like, oh, you know, Sarah, just keep it on Sarah's desk. Yeah. I think we don't need to like, overthink this very much anymore. Well, and I think the reason, because we had multiples. I remember there were multiples in there, but I remember yours was often at the top of the traffic charts. And the reason was that you did things that were fun. And so people were like, oh, I want to see what Sarah's doing.  There's it's a it's a particular type of voyeurism that you find with people who follow celebrities on social media.  Like the we again, we were doing all the things that are common now before they were before they were new. And now people are like streaming themselves sleeping on Twitch. You know, they're not even celebrities. And it's the same principle, you know, just like to see other people. Sometimes it sticks. Yeah. I think I think the Sarah cam for whatever reason was like, it just, I don't know, people were they were into it. And and I didn't feel creeped out about it at all. I don't think I would do the same thing today all day. But who knows? Well, we are trying to drive traffic to dailytechnewshow.com. Well, Tom, I'll take one for the team then. The Otis cam is born. And we'll just do it like really old school where it's like, no, it only refreshes every 10 seconds. And it's just a still image of Otis sleeping. Just gives you a taste. That's all you need. It's just a taste. Well, that is a taste of our memories of Tech TV. We could probably talk all day about this, but I hope you folks enjoyed that. Really, really appreciate you supporting us all year long. Indeed. Thanks to everybody who supports DTNS this year and hopefully many years to come. Thank you to all of you. Speaking of patrons, you know, you can catch the show live Monday through Friday at 4 p.m. Eastern. That's 2100 UTC. Starting in, you know, CES January 3rd. We'll be back live January 3rd. We'll be. This particular show is not live. Spoiler, you can find out more at dailytechnewshow.com slash live. However, we do have a fun show coming to you tomorrow. We'll be back with our tech predictions for 2022 results show with Shannon Morse and Nika Monford. We're all going to see what we got right and what we got wrong. Talk to you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. 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Final thoughts and Michael you've got one about a former Yankee who can have an impact with the Yankees again Well, he's a Homer Bush and he got named manager of the Staten Island Ferry Hawks and if you've ever talked with Homer Bush He's a delight. He was a delight when he played for the Yankees I think that when you get a guy like that as a manager even of an independent team like Staten Island It helps the game of baseball. He will draw people in with his personality He is that good of a guy and he was a pretty good player too doing a book on the 1998 Yankee so I interviewed Homer Bush Michael is exactly right We spoke for about 45 minutes and his recollections of that team because he was a reserve He was in the dugout. He saw every story. He saw every play unfold and also his thoughts on hitting He actually wrote a book on hitting so go to Amazon and look up that book But very happy for Homer Bush. I text them and I said I will update your bio at the end of the book to make Sure, we put managers Staten Island starting to see if they have a lot of stolen bases this season because that man can steal bases


So tonight we're in John chapter 13 and as we are turning to John 13 I want to share with you the the title of this it's the eternal love of Jesus you know as we are embarking the evening before thanksgiving we can honestly think about all the things that we're thankful for many of us will spend time tomorrow with family and friends and and loved ones reflecting on how we are thankful for the many things that Jesus has done in our lives and so as we are celebrating thanksgiving I wanted to give our church a reminder of the very thing that we need to be thankful for and it's the love of Jesus Christ and not only is it his love that sets us free it's his eternal love that transforms our lives and I think a lot of times we go through this Christian life and we often forget that it's through Jesus his love is what drives us to serve him and this evening we're going to take a look at this beautiful picture of the eternal love of Jesus Christ and how this applies to our own lives so Lord we ask that your hand would be in this teaching and that you would speak to us in Jesus name amen in John chapter 13 beginning with verse 1 and I'll read verse 3 it says now before the feast of the Passover when Jesus knew that his hour had come that he should depart from this world to the Father having loved his own who were in the world he'd love them to the end and having and supper being ended the devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Ascariot Simon's son to betray him Jesus knowing that the Father had given him all things and do his hands and that he had come from God and was going to God there's so much packed in these the first three verses what I want to do is little by little and pack these unpack these verses and see how it transforms and sets us up how we are to live as Christians you know there was a time in my life you guys where thanksgiving was not a good time for me it was a time where I was alone I was addicted I was strung out matter of fact when we were singing overcome just recently just right now it took me back to a place where where I was in a hotel room alone and it was when it was one of those times where I contemplated taking my own life because that my addiction in my life was so severe that I had isolated myself and I pulled myself away from family and it was the Wednesday before thanksgiving that I knew people were gonna come over I knew my family was gonna have a gathering but yet there I was alone strung out and didn't think I was gonna make it and I'm thinking back to that today where a lot of us can have this same response but God God has delivered us from a lot of different things in our lives and he's prepared us because of his love for us is eternal and at this time the idea of being loved and being thankful was something that was very far from me I never thought I was good enough to be loved I never thought that I would be in a place where I could be thankful especially in that lifestyle I definitely didn't deserve the love from family or anybody else and it was my own choices that had left me in this place where I know that I was unworthy of love and in our passage tonight we get a glimpse of the last intimate time that Jesus is gonna share with his disciples it is a great demonstration of love before his ultimate demonstration of love at the cross and so we see here right away in verse one we're given a timeframe John starts this after this verse off with now now before the feast of the Passover we all know that the Passover was a celebration of when the Jews or the Israelites were led of out of captivity in the book of Exodus from the enslavement of the Egyptians and it was at that time in Exodus chapter 12 where Jesus instructs Moses to tell the people to get a Passover lamb and to kill it and to take the blood and pour it on the doorpost with Hisop and the Passover angel or the Passover the angel of death will pass over that house because it was covered by the blood of the lamb and so the Israelites always commemorate or celebrate one of these major feasts and it's in celebration of the atonement of that lamb that this that they were passed over to escape the angel of death they were delivered and we know that Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice that atoned our his our sins with his blood and it's the night before the Passover the Passover is a time where they would have a meal between Thursday at sundown and Friday evening according to the Jewish calendar it was a time where they slaughtered lambs and on the day of atonement and Jesus and his disciples were going to celebrate Passover together and in verse one it also tells us that his hour had come now what's interesting about this is that this was no surprise to Jesus he often referenced his hour throughout the throughout the book of John it was no surprise to Jesus that his time for the death on the cross had finally come he knew that he was gonna endure a bloody death on the cross and this was the day before his crucifixion which fell on the 14th of Nissan the time of Passover more than any other Gospels of Matthew Mark and Luke John emphasizes the fact that Jesus was on a heavenly timetable as he did his father's will in John chapter 2 verse 4 he says my hour has not yet come in John chapter 7 verse 30 he references his hour also had not yet come and in chapter 8 verse 20 again we are told that his hour had not yet come and in John chapter 3 verse 23 it tells us that the hour has come that the Son of man should be glorified and here in John chapter 13 verse 1 Jesus knows or knew that his hour had come this hour what is this appointed hour it was the time that Jesus would be brutally crucified for our sins so no longer do our lambs needed to be atoned we had the Lamb of God who will atone our sins with his blood it was that very moment when Jesus would pour out his blood and his love on the sacrifice of the cross that we may be set free that we may be have life in Jesus to demonstrate his ultimate love for us and it tells us here that and alongside that his hour had come here in verse 1 it says that he would depart from this world to the Father now this is interesting because when he speaks here of departing from this world Jesus is speaking of his resurrection he's speaking of his ascension into heaven that he would leave this world to return to the Father now when you look up the word world in the original language we get the word cosmos and it's not so much the globe that we're talking about rather than the world system that it operates in that Jesus was going to leave this time this world system to ascend to the Father eventually for us to receive the Holy Spirit he would leave this world so we get the English words cosmopolitan which is a citizen of the world and I found this interesting we also get the word cosmetics now what's interesting here young ladies is that it's those things we put on in order to bring out of chaos that may ring true for some but I'm not looking at anybody so Jesus is leaving this worldly system he's gonna leave here and he's speaking of the resurrection and what the writer of what John is doing here is now he's building up Jesus's deity in these first three verses because the next thing that he tells us it says that he loved his own having his loved his own disciples who were part of this world says that he'd loved them to the end Jesus loved those who believed in him and he ready them for his mission in the world the word love here it's it's an interesting word because we know the love that Jesus offers is a copy love there is no higher form of love than what Jesus is speaking here a love that is the utmost highest love that anybody can ever offer we often often know that I got paid love is a sacrificial love a love that would lay down one's life for his friends but it goes beyond that friends his love a copy love is eternal in nature when the Bible tells us that God so loved the world it's not in a present tense form it's telling us that his love for us is eternal that there is limitless boundaries on his love but I think a lot of times from our Western thinking perspective that we have a hard time understanding what this love is and the only thing that we can demonstrate this is by using the word love now it's interesting here we love a lot of things we love pizza we love chicharrones tamales we love TV we love a lot of things and this what sometimes makes it so difficult for us to read from a Western perspective because we substitute the word love for so many things but when you look at this in the original language it says he loved his own who are in the world that type of love there is the highest form of love that anybody can have but yet again that's hard for us to measure because we'd love so many things but we get a glimpse a little bit of this and their next part of the verse one where it says he'd loved him to the end this is an amazing verse you guys verse one again is on is unfolding the deity of Jesus to set us up for the rest of the chapter having loved them to the end the extent of Jesus's love for his own was to love them until his death but his love was preparing them for the for his death in resurrection but what's interesting here is that he'd love them to the end to the end of what to the end of his earthly life but that love is limitless and extends into eternity he had boundless love for them it is a love that it has the full extent and the utmost love for them a love that is eternal now I don't know if we understand what an eternal love is I don't think we've ever experienced an eternal love until we have a true identity in Jesus Christ he would prove this by continuing to love them until he died on the cross you know it's even more amazing guys is that he continues to love us now and he's in heaven his love for you and I is eternal his love for us has no boundaries it has no flaws as it has no limits his love for us is so pure and highest form that we have a hard time understanding how to measure that the closest love that I think I can receive that is the love of my wife the love of my children but oftentimes my friends I still feel that I'm undeserving of that love Jesus's love for you this evening goes beyond the death of the cross his love for you this evening is eternal and it will always be eternal and when we are able to understand and walk in that our lives can be transformed I love what it says in Jeremiah 31 3 it says the Lord has appeared to me appeared of old to me saying yes I have loved you with an everlasting love so Jesus loves his disciples without limits he loves each and every one of us without limits Jesus has come to this earth to die for the sins of the world and he had paid for our sins at the cross Jesus loved us because he didn't Jesus loved us not because we're so lovable it's true that some may be more lovable than others but from God's point of view there is no nothing lovable about a sinful person he loves you because it's his character to love I love what it says in 1st John 4 10 this is love that we are loved that we that not that we love God but that he loved us and sent his son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins so God loves us at his own character now if I were to survey all of us here this evening and have you all come up here pass a microphone to you and I asked you does Jesus love you what would your response be yeah he does but well yes I think he does well sometimes I think he loves me because there's so many bad things happening to me how can God love me if he allows all this stuff to happen in my life it's his character to love us and he loves them to the end just as he loves each and every one of you do you truly understand that Jesus loves you with an eternal love do you really understand that his love for you is limitless his love for you has no boundaries his love for you is eternal see I made love my wife I I made love my friends I made love a lot of people but in that love there's limits in that love there can be boundaries that will limit how I love but Jesus loves us eternally and the next thing that the writer that John tells us in verse 2 he tells us that supper being ended now there's something I want to point out here and develop just for a few moments you guys we just seen in verse 1 where John tells us that he loved them to the end and then in verse 2 it tells us and supper being ended now John is giving us a play of words here because the word end in verse 1 having in love them to the end is a different word used than the word supper being ended there are two different Greek words with two different meanings and what's interesting about the one the love the love to the end in verse 1 is that it's eternal there's no time frame on it yes it's on an or it's ending on an earthly level but extends into eternity and here in verse 2 and supper being ended is another Greek word that's totally different it indicates that there is a temporary time frame to it that it's going to end that is it's going to it's going to speak of a time that's temporary and has an expiration date see the love that is spoken in verse 1 love them to the end speaks of a love that is eternal the love of Jesus Christ is limitless his love for Jesus is ongoing and everlasting it is Jesus who was eternal he loved his disciples and he loves you of his earthly ministry that stretches way into eternity but when you look at this event of the supper being ended it speaks of an event that's temporary it speaks of a of an event that has an expiration date even though this supper has great significance and great meaning it's still ended and I think a lot of us pursue those things that are so temporary we try to fulfill make bring fulfillment into those things that have an expiration date we try to bring those things in that would try to bring fulfillment in our lives such as the pursuit of money recognition relationships we're in the pursuit of these things but they can never bring fulfillment as the eternal love of Jesus Christ but yet we are so often and so bent looking for these things see anything that we experience on this side of heaven will always have an expiration date tomorrow a lot of us are gonna be eating but tomorrow evening at 1159 p.m. Thanksgiving it's about 10 and then we're gonna have Christmas Eve that's gonna end and then we're gonna have Christmas morning guess what that's gonna end see in so many times we put our hopes in our fulfillment and our desires for fulfillment in those things that are temporary and what John is telling us here is that Jesus's love is eternal that brings fulfillment and that this supper has ended anything that we do that is outside the eternal love of Jesus Christ will have an expiration date so why are we looking so hard to have these things fulfill us why is that because they're temporary they will not last they have an expiration date but yet we're in pursuing of these things so my question to you this evening is what are those things that you're pursuing if we're not resting in the eternal love of Jesus Christ and allowing his love his eternal love to bring fulfillment to us we were we are pursuing things that will expire they will never bring fulfillment in our lives they will never bring an eternal perspective in our lives only our hope in Jesus Christ we see the perfect example of a man who was fulfilling his life with temporary things because in the second part of verse 2 after supper being ended it says the devil have already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot Simon's son to betray him this is a perfect example of someone who has pursued temporary things for fulfillment from the world and yet he had access of greater than anybody to the eternal love of Jesus Christ think about it Judas walked with Jesus many miles Judas was around those campfires with Jesus hearing his heart Judas was the one that was there when he would see the dead come back to life Judas was there at the last supper but yet his heart was full of greed and he was after those temporary things and so what is so dangerous about this is that this person Judas Iscariot had so much close access to Jesus he still was after the things of the world see friends if we are not in pursuit of God's love through his word through the fellowship of our believers and in prayer we can be so close to Jesus in proximity but our hearts can be so far away from you Judas was the perfect example who pursued temporary things even though he had direct access to the eternal love of Jesus Christ his pursuit of greed led Judas to betray Jesus and this is what happens when we look for fulfillment outside the love of Jesus Christ we will begin to give our lives over and betray our Lord and Savior when we think about all the things he's done for us at the cross but yet we decide to do it our way or we decided to do it this way or we think we can get away with this or you know I you know I've been serving God for a little bit of time now so I did look I deserve a little bit of this and I deserve a little bit of that and ultimately what we're doing is that we are be trained the very love of Jesus Christ so what are you seeking for fulfillment this evening what are you pursuing because if it's outside the eternal love of Jesus Christ it's temporary and it will never bring you fulfillment Matthew 15 aid it says these people draw near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me nothing will ever bring fulfillment outside the love of Jesus Christ everything is temporary I like what it says in Isaiah chapter 54 verse 10 it says for mountains may depart and the hills may be removed but my steadfast love shall not depart from you my covenant of peace shall not be removed says the Lord who has compassion on you Psalm 103 17 says but the steadfast love of the Lord it's from everlasting to everlasting on those who fear him Jesus knew that Judas would betray him Judas has mentioned eight times in the Gospel of John more than any other Gospels Satan had entered into Judas and now he would give him the necessary thought to bring about the arrest and crucifixion of the Son of God what's interesting here when it says and the devil have already put it into the heart of Judas that word in the Greek put in really means to throw and so it was thrown on the heart of Judas and when our hearts are seeking after those temporary things it's very easily for the enemy to throw these things on our hearts I'm often not asked is was Judas a believer or we's has he always been a member of Satan's family he sat under Jesus's ministry for three years was a part of the inner circle again he's seen miracles but yet he was under the control of Satan because of his pursuit of worldly things and his plot against Jesus was nothing less than satanic but verse 3 it's an amazing verse you guys look what it says Jesus knowing that the Father had given him all things into his hands and that he had come from God and was going to God this is an amazing verse because just alone in verse 3 we are seeing the deity of Jesus unfold before our eyes this is Jesus knowing what's what's so amazing about this is that Jesus in his earthly form is now taking on the deity characteristics he knew is knowing it's an ongoing thing as he says here that knowing that the Father has given into the hands and that he had come from God and was going to God in other words God has given Jesus all authority all authority not just some authority all authority now I don't know if you guys ever had any run in with the hood out right or the cops for you and they have authority they can arrest you they can take you to jail they can do a lot of things and some of us don't like that so sometimes we will rebel against that authority but it's telling us here that all authority was given to Jesus and he knew this he knew this he knew that his death was coming within the next couple of days and and it's telling us here that he has all authority given us a characteristics of his eternal is that he was in a patent all knowing this is what I love about verse 3 because it's building the in a patent in the eternal aspect of Jesus it tells us here in verse 3 that he's going into it come from God and he's going back to God tells us the eternal relationship between the son and the father another aspect of Jesus's deity and this verse also shows the eternal relationship between the two and it tells us here in verse 3 that he had come from God and was going to God he knew that his identity was in God that he was God himself so you see that verses 1 2 and 3 have given us this unpeeling of the deity of Jesus he uses the word John uses the word and he knew and he loved eternally and now he's omnipotent he knows all things and all authority has been given to him from God and now he's going back to God is that amazing the description in these first three verses of Jesus when we take the time to look at that we're thinking this wow all authority has been given to him how much authority has been given all so when you read this you're thinking now Jesus has all this authority you know he's gonna go do he's gonna go out there and overthrow the Roman government right all authority has been given to him Jesus go out and and destroy Pilate and destroy the governors and destroy all of Roman and get that occupation out of Jerusalem get him out of Israel or you know what Jesus Judas is a treacherous be betrayer zap into a chicharron get them take care of them but what does he do all authority has just been given to Jesus and he knew this look what it says in verse 4 he rose from the supper table a lady's outside his garments took a towel and girded himself after that he poured water into a basin and begin to wash the disciples feet and to wipe them with the towel with which he was girded he rises up you think he's gonna start rising in power and he's gonna lead this this coup and go out there and take care of things but instead he rises up and he removes his garment what's so significant about him removing his garment when you look at I'm jumping ahead of myself when you look at John chapter 19 verse 23 it says that the Roman soldiers divided his garments and gambled for them that verse tells us that it's a it was a one seam seam it was a seamless tunic and that the Roman soldiers wanted to gamble for it so there's a little bit of significance of what this garment is actually it says garments see most rabbis would would in those days would wear a seamless garment yet Jesus was not rich and a lot of times the Bible tells us that a lot of the things were supplied to him and and one of the commentators pointed out that a robe or his seamless garment may have been given to him as an indicator of a high authority but it was with no pomp or circumstance it was just a seamless one seam robe but it was significant enough for people to identify who he is with that robe it was enough for the Roman soldiers to want to gamble for it at the side of the crucifixion and the first thing that he does when he's just been given all authority is he gets up and he removes that garment which removes himself as having all authority and he pours he begins to pour he begins to wipe the the feet of the disciples with the towel in Jewish customs there was no way masters would ever wash the feet of servants Gentile slaves would typically do that but Jesus knew within the disciples that there was some type of competitive spirit that was going on in fact within minutes of washing the disciples feet when you look at Luke 22 you'll see that they begin to argue who's the greatest and Jesus perceived that knowing all things and he begins to deal with that he gave them an unforgettable lesson in humility and he rebuked their selfish pride the more you think about this the more profound what Paul writes in Philippians chapter 2 verses 5 through 11 let not let this mind be in you which is also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God did not consider robbery to be equal with God but made himself with no reputation taking the form of a bondservant and coming in the likeness of man and being found in the appearance of man he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death even the death of the cross therefore God has also highly exalted him and given him the name which is above every name that's the name of Jesus every knee should bow of those in heaven and those are earth and those under earth and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father sovereign Jesus all power has just been handed to him all authority has been given to him and the first thing he does is he rises up and takes the role of a servant to wash his disciples feet now I don't know about you guys I would never wash your feet I've seen some of your guys's feet if I put my feet in there I was I seen these places where you could put your feet in these little things and all these little fishes would eat it right if they did that to me all those fish would be floating and imagine the dirt that was on the towel of washing their feet how dirty it was he yet Jesus removes his garment and he and he puts on this towel and he identifies himself as a servant and what's interesting about this is that Jesus removes his deity his garment of deity and he is taken on the dirty sins of our lives in order that we may be set free and he laid himself his garments and he girds himself with the towel and the first thing that John tells us he does is he pours Jesus had been pouring into the lives of his disciples for the last three and a half years he poured his life into them and he poured his love into them and now he is pouring water into a basin to show his disciples the most ultimate demonstration of love servanthood and the next time that we will read of Jesus pouring out will be why he's on the cross pouring out his blood because he loves you and he loves me Psalm 22 14 says I am poured out like water and all my bones are out of joint my heart is like wax it melted within me what's interesting here in verse five it talks about he poured water in the basin and began to wash that word means to wash just a single part of the body the distinction was he was trying to teach his disciples that by washing your feet that we are called distinctly to walk a holy walk and that we are to keep our feet clean in order for us to walk worthy because if we're defiled we cannot have communion with our Lord we can experience his eternal love that brings fulfillment in our lives as an example to love and to serve others how we do in that area in serving one another it's hard it's difficult to serve one another but why don't we follow the example of the eternal love of Jesus Christ you know earlier I mentioned that there is a time in my life where Thanksgiving was not a good time for me as I mentioned before because I was alone I was strung out I was addicted I I had made poor choices and now I'm here I am sitting by myself thinking that just in hours family is going to get together and I'm not going to be there and I don't know about you guys but that I don't know if you guys ever experienced that type of loneliness and again this was a time the idea of being loved and being thankful was something that was so foreign to me so far away from me and I remember coming home on a Sunday before Thanksgiving and as I walked through the door I was strung out I was angry and I walked through the door and my dad meets me there and he begins to try to encourage me that son your life is not supposed to be like this Jesus loves you he has a plan for you he has a purpose for you son turn away from these things and what I do is I get up and I push my dad down on the floor and I can tell you friends that I've never ever forgot that look in his face never he was shocked that his son would do something like this and as I saw him on the ground tears started to stream from his face and I'm thinking to myself what have I done and the look that he gave me that confused stunned look that his own son has just pushed him to the floor I remember leaving there thinking I can never be loved I can never be forgiven when he died at his deathbed as soon as he took his last breath that was the first thing I thought about and it still burns my heart and my mind but it reminds me of a story and I'm going to close with this because God's love and his eternal love for you he has forgiven you for everything I love what it says in Ephesians but you guys many of you guys have heard this story before and it bears repeating because it's it's a picture of God's eternal love a man had a man had many dogs you guys know this one many dogs and these dogs were purebred dogs and he would take these dogs to dog shows and they would win first place prizes and because of this this man became very rich and yet these dogs really did nothing for them he tried to have a relationship with them they tried to he tried to spend time with them but yet these dogs really didn't do anything for them but just won him money and trophies you'd go into his fireplace and he had these trophies of first place and they made them lots and lots of money but there's no relationship with them and he told his servant you know what I want to go out and look for a mutt and his his servant is like what do you mean you want a mutt you have all these dogs right here they've won you tons of money they have done so good for you why would you want to look for a mutt because they do nothing for me I love them and they do not respond so they get into limousine and they're cruising up the highway in the byway and it's pouring rain and they get to an alley and they look down the alley and the man says stop the car and as the master gets out of the car he goes and there are there is a mutt that is digging through the trash this mutt had no home he had been kicked out he had been hated he'd been beat he'd been stepped on and so as this master is approaching this dog that is left to dig through the trash he goes and picks him up and the mutt is very timid because it has been beaten before and the master picks this mutt up holds it close to him it's wet I don't know if yours has ever smelled wet dog and he puts it in the car and takes it home meanwhile this mutt's like this guy's going to throw me out the window everybody else has nobody has been good to me everybody else has done me wrong and the master takes this mutt home and he gives it a warm bath he lets him eat out of his bowl and he loves this mutt he gives it a bath he warms it he feeds it at lets it sit on his lap while they eat he sleeps with it and one morning the master gets up and the mutt is gone and the master couldn't understand why this mutt would leave after he had poured his heart into this dog and every morning that master would go and he would go on the highways and the byways looking for his dog and he could never find it and so he gave up much time has passed and one morning he hears a scratch at the door and he's thinking maybe that's my mutt nah it's been too much time there's no way that dog would come back I wasn't looking for it it's gone and he heard it again this is while he was eating breakfast and the master gets up and he starts to walk quickly to the door and his his walk begins a brisk jog and his brisk jog became a sprint to the door and he opens up the door and guess what he sees come back next weekend I'll tell you guys his mutt his mutt came home and this time his mutt brought a bunch of mutt friends with him and he turned and spoke mutt language to these dogs and said this is the man who loved me when nobody else would this is the man who loved me with an eternal love this is the man that when I pushed my dad down he forgave me this is the man that when I was strung out he's the one that set me free this is the man that when I had no hope and wanted to take my own life that he gave me life this is the man amen and this is the man who loves you eat see friends there's nothing in this world that we can pursue outside the eternal love of Jesus Christ may we always remember that in this Thanksgiving season that Jesus loves you with an eternal love never never forget that may we always walk in his love because he loves you I hate to say this guys but we're all mutts and we all have a story when Jesus said


What's up Party Peoples, it's your boy Rich and I'm back with some huge news today. The news we've been waiting for, Aurora Cannabis revenue grossed 260% to 29.7 million in fiscal one. So, we gotta break it down, right? That's what we do here at Rich TV, Aurora Cannabis announces financial results for the first quarter of fiscal 2019, 260% revenue growth to 29.7 million, pro-forma revenues up to 333% to 35.8 million, strong consumer rollout and continued production scale-up, interesting. So, these are the Q1 2019 financial and operational highlights. So, the revenue has gone from 19 million in Q4 2018 to 29 million in Q1 2019, which is a 10 million, 10.5 million dollar increase. And from the beginning of 2018 until Q1 2018 to Q1 2019, that's the 260% increase. So they had 8 million in revenue in Q1 2018, and now they have 29 million in revenue in Q1 2019. That's the 260% increase right there. Now the cannabis revenue in Q4 2018 was 14 million, and in Q1 2019 was 24 million, again just under a 10 million dollar increase, and a 236% increase from Q1 2018 to Q1 2019. And you can see their margin on the cannabis sales was 74% in Q4 2018 and 70% in Q1 2019. So it was down 4% there. So there's a little bit of a slight loss there. So that might have affected the market. Now the general and administrative expenses here, this is what concerns me. Like this number here, 35 million? Yeah I don't know why this number is so high here. And in Q4 2018 it was 22 million, and then in Q1 2019 it's 35 million for general and administrative expenses. And then sales and marketing is another 29 million? Whoa. And it was 14 million in Q4 2018. So why such a huge jump in sales and marketing expense? 29 million in sales and marketing. Interesting. So the earnings overall in Q1 2019 are 104 million, which is a pretty substantial increase. An increase by, is this right? An increase by 2826%? Wow. That is staggering. It went from 3 million in Q1 2018 to 79 million in Q4 2018 to 104 million in Q1 2019. 2826% increase in earnings. Whoa. Earnings attributed to common shares, 105 million. So I guess these earnings are based on shares. Operational results, cash cost of sales program of dried cannabis sold, $1.90 versus Q4 2018 was $1.87. So a 2% change there. Cash cost to produce program of dried cannabis sold, $1.45 versus $1.70, 15% change there. Active registered patients, this is the number that I like. The number grew from 43,000 in Q4 2018 to 67,000 in Q1 2019. So a 24,000 patient increase in one quarter. So that is substantial for me. So that is the number that I really take out of this. I really like this number. Average net sales price of dried cannabis actually went up to $8.39 as opposed to $8.02 in Q4 2018. So that was an increase there. Average net selling price of cannabis extracts $12.12 versus $13.52. So actual 10% loss there. So they have a 10% loss here in the quarter and they have a 15% loss in the cash cost to produce program of dried cannabis sold. This could be some of the reasons why they didn't go up today. Kilograms produced 4,996 versus 2,212, a 126% increase and a 395% increase over the year. That's very substantial. And kilograms sold year over year is up 201%, 65% in the quarter. So there is substantial growth here based on these numbers. So based on my due diligence here, and I'm not going to get into all of this because I'll be here all day, okay? But based on what I'm seeing right now, I'm looking at some numbers that are growing. So these numbers are very promising to me. Now, yeah, there's going to be some things that are down here and there, but overall these numbers are very, very substantial for me. We continue to successfully execute our differentiated and diversified strategy committed towards domestic and international expansion in the medical cannabis market, adult consumer use sales production scale-up, innovation, plant and medical research and product development. The commencement of adult consumer use sales in Canada has been very successful for Aurora with strong performance across all product categories and brands, Terry Booth, CEO of Aurora. Our initial rollout success demonstrates how our high quality Aurora standard products and well-positioned brands have resonated strongly with the consumer market and our preparedness for the logistical challenges in effectively bringing our products to market. Yes, it's a big, big undertaking to do what they're doing, but they are doing it successfully. Giving the strong unmet consumer demand evident across Canada, we are confident that our rapidly increasing production capacity will result in continued acceleration of revenue growth. This is very interesting. Terry Booth also said we also continue to perform well in our international medical business with the acquisition of ICC Labs, which we expect to close in the coming weeks. We are establishing leadership in Latin America. In addition to ongoing international growth and expansion led by our team at Aurora Europe, we are also the first non-government organization to export medical cannabis to Poland, a medical market with a population roughly equal to Canada. Across our international activities, we have established significant early mover advantage and market leadership with the scaleup of our domestic and international production facilities. We anticipate increased availability of product to service these developing markets, which will drive further global growth for our company. In Q1 2019, Glenn Ebot, CFO added, we continue to propel Aurora's growth, making critical investments in our corporate sales and marketing talent and capabilities. Interesting. So that's re-spent all your millions. A significant portion of our Q1 2019 marketing spend was in preparation for the adult consumer use market with numerous branding and market awareness initiatives with more restrictive marketing regulations in effect as of October 17th. We will see a significant reduction in average marketing spend over the remainder of the fiscal year. So they spent a huge amount of their money and resources, which are showing you guys the millions in advertising and marketing because they had to because there was going to be changes as of October 17th due to legalization. That makes sense. So that number should go down. We will see a significant reduction in average marketing spend over the remainder of the fiscal year. We also anticipate a reduction in other one-off expenditures, such as the integration costs related to men relief, Kana Med, and Nandia acquisitions. Mr. Booth concluded as a science, medical, and patient-focused organization, we are committed to continuing serving our patients with the products they require as we build our inventory levels in anticipation of the adult consumer use market. We prioritize product availability for our over 67,000 existing patients with production ramping up. We anticipate once again proactively driving additional growth in this core medical segment, both domestically and internationally. Yes, I believe that they are positioned to just explode, literally explode. So I'm not going to get into all of this stuff. You guys can go to Rich TV Live and remember, you can get all the breaking news, stocks, cryptocurrencies. You want to join our secret stock picks group. It's free. It's a social media platform where you can be the star. It's true.  And we don't want your money. We want your eyes and ears on the prize every single day, right? We just put this new song out and it's fire. It's fire. So I got to play it. Haters looking at me now. It's starting to get visibility. It's crazy. I mean, it's out there. It's out there. So we'll look at this. And they're at $6.96 ACV on the New York Stock Exchange. With the tremendous growth, how high could it go? It went down another 1.58% after market. So down 4.53% after these revenue projections and growth. And now they're down another 1.58% after market. What do you guys think? You guys see GreenKai? Remember, Rich TV Live is strictly for education, entertainment purposes. Do your due diligence. Do your research before you invest in anything that we talk about here at Rich TV Live. If you're not winning, you're definitely not watching. We bring you all the winners and we bring them to you first. Remember, Warren Buffett, the best investor ever, thinks 20 years down the road. Will these stocks be winners in 5, 10, 20 years? Invest in the best. Buy in the red. Sell in the green. Look at the winners that I predicted over the last two years. We will continue to bring you the winners and we'll bring them to you first. It's true. I don't do this for the club. It's true. Hate to stop bringing me down. What? Alright guys. So what do you think? If you like this video, smash the like button, comment down below, what do you think about these views? The biggest views of the day and the biggest stock are numero uno, aurora canada. The monster of the cannabis sector goes down. Yo, if it's going to go down, that's just creating more buying opportunities. This is a great company. I love aurora cannabis. They are a beast. This can always be haters, right? But at the end of the day, numbers don't lie, but people do. Remember that. And this is going to be a huge winner. You can book it. If it goes down, I'm just going to buy me some more. I don't own any right now. If I buy more, I will. I just sold some last week in the green. I'm going to buy the red and sell the green, but we're going to watch. We've seen three red days in a row. I don't like to go against the streak, okay? So I don't know man. Do the due diligence guys. But remember, remember we can't beat the elite. Okay? You can't beat the elite. So don't try to beat them. Join them. So if there's a streak right now and you're shorting, then you're happy. But if you're longing right now, you're thinking, okay, let me wait. Let me wait. We're maybe losing the battle. But remember I've said this before, we will win the war. Look at these numbers. Are they going up? Are the patient numbers going up? Yes. Are the revenues going up? Yes. Did they spend a lot of money on marketing and expenses? Yes. But they admitted they could only do that before because now because of legalization things have changed. So they can't spend that kind of money. They're not going to spend 29 million in sales and marketing and 35 million in general and administrative expenses because they can't because of legalization rules and standards. All right guys. Come on. What do you think? How are you, boy?