Guys welcome back to the 21 convention up next. We have our closing speaker for the Orlando event He's a star the community tapes. This is his fifth time speaking at this event to you guys and He is one of the most passionate Supporters of the 21 convention, please welcome Steve Mata to the stage All right So Hey, here's how we are going to do this. It's gonna be a little bit different and unfortunately if you're watching this online You're gonna have to email us. I basically want to do this do the speech in a little bit of a different manner and I thought about a lot of stuff and Coming to these conventions can really stimulate a lot of different ways to think so I'm gonna write a few things on the board And those few things are gonna be topics for us to talk about and After I write those things we are going to hand out the microphone and Fill up some good time first off I'm going to write the whoops. I can't even spell Which is a common thing the sexual Life all right, and then I'm gonna write down. We'll do Well, we'll say rapport rapport cycling We'll write down the red Stack the famous the age-old thing and Maybe we'll write down some attraction cycling and so on so what's gonna happen here is Basically, I want to interact with you guys as much as possible and I'm gonna try and bring it back to this I may erase some stuff. I may keep it going. I love this all the cameras. It's so good, but What's that? Oh, man. Well, there's two wells. Good job. Good job. So and I wouldn't have caught that so That all being said let me let me start this off. So basically what I want to do is Who here has who's been in the community for a while? Greg then nobody who's been in it over a year All right, who's been in it over two years? and Who's been in it?  How about somebody who has been in it less than six months nobody nobody really What does it mean to anybody who's been in it over a year?  Oh, you're so amazing. You're so ideal. How long have you been in this thing? Few years five years Greg libido everybody no hold on to that microphone and The reason why I want to do this is I wanted to start a dialogue for me this whole thing Look, I started out in pickup when I met Greg What what three years ago at the 21 convention man? I remember really well It was it was all about I was I was in this phase in pickup where basically my first two years It was about being a pickup artist man. I ran with the best pickup artists I competed with the best pickup artists and at times I beat the best pick up artists That's actually actually how I became known, you know, I Hung out with sin I hung out with CJ the whole term SNL came from the whole Dallas scene and pickup where Asian Playboy was who's now moved to LA Brock whose profit who lives in Tampa now was in Dallas like all these people did all this shit, right? And we were we we drank the Kool-Aid man We were into it and actually the first time I met Greg who asked this or who kind of like answered this question Greg actually was also in the scene and he was kicking ass and it was amazing and it was all about What was it about like it's about who you got laid by how many times you got laid the numbers you got What you did to whatever girl and all that sort of stuff that I mean still if you were to have a conversation with me about the Interactions that I had today or yesterday or the day before or whatever I would still love to brag about him because I got an ego, but the more I've gotten into the whole the whole scene the more I've gotten into The type of teaching that I do and and the more I've interacted with people because that's what this is about our fundamental our fundamental like rights of humanity are our Sexuality and socialization man. It's what we all do the more. I got into it the more that something like this made sense All right The more that it it became a definition that I had to had to abide by you know It was a huge thing and it's real interesting because Greg who they they stole the microwave or oh no It's over there apparently you can't handle it now But um, but he gave a really good answer and what did I hear? I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was about exchange. It was about experiencing and it was about sharing Right when we started in the whole whole pickup industry because that's definitely what it's become less of a community and more of an industry we We all wanted to take we all wanted to get things We all wanted to define ourselves in so many ways and what's interesting about this well Man, I really wanted to let me see I'm gonna have to ask Mike if I switch this around is it gonna screw up the shot It's a little bit angled down. I'm gonna be writing a little bit funny. God. This is gonna be interesting See what kind of talent I have Yeah, a little tilt but as long as you guys can see it's good.  I'll write the word life. All right And there's a few things when I write these things out that I am going to since I have the options of colors None which are red unfortunately. We'll start with green because it's the horny color I basically have three things if I'm gonna define sexual That means being sexual with somebody that means everything that you can think about in it There's three components of it and they go in an order There's sex. All right Obvious Seduction All right, and there's sexuality Okay, so those three things make up my definition of sexual. Let's go over these really quick sex. It's an action, right? It's an action. We all know what it is You know it can be a whole variety of things depending on you know if you're Bill Clinton or not, right? Seduction is a process. It's that process of Let's say we start here. We meet somebody and we end here and Probably probably sex is going to be in the middle of that, but it's a process. It's a method It's a it could be a system. It could be all these things, right?  So what is life life is going to be three things as well? And we start out with we'll do identity Life is identity. It's experience. Oh man, yeah Yoga time and it's purpose okay, so These things too these two things really go together and they really exchange and they're big deals for me because I've spent basically the past five years and guys who've been in the community a long time and gotten results Actually guys who've been in the community a long time have gotten results know that a lot of people in the community don't get results But the guys that do get results is something about us That's that that made us crazy that had that made us have to do these things And then when we have to do them we gain a certain sort of hopefully wisdom that come out of them and it's it's pretty interesting and When it comes to life, I say it's identity experience and purpose all right Where we mix things up and my problem Massively with what's going on in the whole pickup scene industry and what I have a lot of trouble wrapping around my head when I come to Well different connect conventions meet people or see people doing pick up see people really investing in pickup and is Has a lot to do with these three things and these three things so identity instead of identity in order to do that we tend to We tend to have like the opposite of it and it's okay to have both But the opposite of it would would be to be fake You know put a mask on all those things now we see this all the time whenever we're Learning something or we adopt something new hey, man. We have to fake it.   We have experience, but instead of experience. We look at systems. We look at methods.  I brought up to a girl that made me do this We look at we look at the system man, but we don't look at the experience and instead of the purpose We look at the results. All right, and those are all good things, you know It's all good to create some sort of alter identity But if we're not respecting our own identity will be empty if we have if we have a system if we have a series of actions that we do if We did go out and get an SNL if we did have these experience where it's like oh man I did this this girl was this great breakthrough, but we don't respect the experience You know we're left empty and if we have purpose with if we have result without purpose We'll be fucked so it may be a little bit hard hard for you guys to understand But I'm gonna keep coming back to this right and I can get all into how this crosses up and all this crazy sort of shit but That all being said for the guys that have just started out in the industry which you all raised your hands So I know who you guys are and I'm gonna call on you. What is it? Let me ask you this. What is it that you expected? out of Your experiences or what did you want? What did you want out of this when you signed up or I know when I signed up for my first email? I definitely wanted a few things But what is it that you guys wanted when you first started investing in this that could be a time that could be investing in a workshop That could be any of those things I Wanted more options more options. Well, what's that mean? That means I looked back at the girlfriends that I've had in my life and about 90% of them I met at work and I wanted to see if I could start meeting Yeah, yeah, or women more of the time Is it which is cool, man? There's nothing nothing wrong with the more options, but what is it? Let me let me continue to To act dive a little bit deeper here when you say More options and you started really looking at the stuff. What is the stuff that caught your eye on? The stuff in this community you mean sure sure Well it kind of grew from meeting more women to just personal development And actually that's more what I'm into right now. Okay. What does meeting more women mean to you? Meeting more women. Yeah. Yeah having more fun. Okay having more social life. Okay. Cool. Cool What's some other things that other people got? I know you too. I know you two suckers raised your hands over here The reason I got into this was because I was sick and tired of not having the options I wanted with the women I wanted I wanted to you know have more women have better women to have more fun with those women I was sick of getting rejected by everyone and I was sick of you know Being left behind and the dust while other guys were out having all the fun right, right so Before I started the speech I was talking to some people and we were talking about a few things and one thing that always comes to my Head when I hear stuff like this especially when we hear what happens first when you get into the community And as my buddy Terrence says who is a pretty influential person in the decisions I make which might say something about him as well as me, but He always tells me he's like look man if you are starving if you're starving Every form of food looks good out there Every form of food looks good out there and you're willing to eat it because you're hungry But if you're already hungry, you know, you have options But if you're defined by chasing that urge chasing that urge of what you want to eat all the time And in you're always in that hungry, you know mentality or habit that you've built or any of that sort of stuff You're just gonna eat shitty shitty food and we see that you know definitely definitely in American culture And that's one of the good things about the convention But when we start to get healthier with it, we start to develop and change and as I was talking about this stuff before You know, I gave this speech and all that sort of stuff I was I was telling a little bit about my story And I'm like man, you know, it's so crazy because when I when I joined this community I basically had I had had girlfriends I had had a lot of crazy experiences with women that weren't like good It wasn't like crazy like oh man, we're in Cabo San Lucas type crazy. It was it was not so great You know, I always think it's interesting when people talk about dark places and all that sort of stuff because It seems to be this kind of like comparing thing, but man, I know what that's like I know what that's like and then when I and I come to this community I think I had been with 12 or 13 women, you know So a lot of people would say that's pretty good. You know 28 years old 12 13 women. All right Now when I two years into it two years into the community and I was with like some pretty aggressive dudes, man And uh, it's weird because there's a lot of my identity attached to this even though I'm also at the same time saying hey look man There's there's kind of like a crazy toxicity that came from this after two years. I Had I had sex with 80 women All right, two years and some change we'll give it that and Everything that you guys described, you know about what you want and even worse than that You know because a lot of times I'll hear stuff like man. I just want to get laid. I want to be liked I want to I want to have this experience with women I want to and I think if everybody was like really really honest in this room because when you're hungry We don't have anything to eat man. Everything looks good.  I want to be able to go into a club. I want to get tens.  I want everybody to respect me.   I felt the worst feeling that you can ever feel ever Look at that. Where do you want me to take it from Mike? Actually you weren't paying okay. Okay, so so look man This will be fun for you editing wise this happened to me so many times on stage man okay, so You know when I started out. I was defining You know my my sex my actions of sex only as an action not as an experience It was a mask that was getting it because all I wanted was a result and not a purpose and all those things intertwined together and Man, I'll tell I'll tell you what like the The worst the worst experiences in my life and when it was just like Terrible there were those times and anybody who has experienced like a lot of the guys who are also instructors in the In the room and whatnot and Greg I know you I know you would be when I would be hooking up with a girl that was my deal That was everything everything that I could have ever wanted whether that was personality whether that was looks whether that was any of those Things and it was completely empty man It was completely meaningless and that believe me there were plenty of times when I had sexual experiences people that weren't my deal Probably more than the ones that were but that was the worst and I think that's what we get from Man, I don't hear enough of that in the community whenever I hear that in the community.  That's amazing That all being said What happened was is Especially in last year's speech. I started talking about the difference between pickup and seduction. All right, so Pickup has all these things which make it up and just to really briefly paraphrase Paraphrase it would be pickup is like a lot of things. It's nags. It's teases. It's dominance. It's body language. It's Escalation its value its social proof. It's all this sort of shit But if there's no purpose beyond it and there's only a result that we're looking for Then all we're gonna be defined by our purpose is gonna be defined solely by our actions, right?  It's not gonna be an experience and it's not in our sexuality Then it's gonna be defined by that so that being said what I really really want to do in this is keep keep the mic moving and When it comes to pickup and seduction How do I say it? there's been a lot of talk of the convention like where people have been like Asking me like well, what's your thing? You're really good with hired guns. Oh wait. Is it strippers or wait?  I've been doing it a long time man. I Teach in very different ways. I have no idea even how to package my teaching except I customize everything to you and I teach seduction which the difference between that is his pickup is defined by its actions and seduction is defined by its purpose, which is pleasing women and And loving women and experiencing more with women, but that all being said I want to open the floor towards people who who have questions towards things So please please ask more of a dialogue Nobody really really really I'm telling you man. It's gonna be good. It's gonna get good once we get rolling one time I had a conversation with you and we were discussing the palethora of women and a part of us being left each time as we chase that goal Man, can you comment on that and expand? Let me tell you something? Let me tell you something. This is this is one of my favorite things I went to Europe for the 21 convention and my time before that experience in the convention was some of the most redefining experience of my life man I went I went to Las Vegas with the World Seas of poker guys had some great experiences with women there But the poker guys are pretty crazy if you know any professional poker players Be aware and then I went to Austria and hung out with my friends. It's just great man It's great. I get to the 21 convention and I'm like see all this chaos going on and it's just I talked to Jason Savage about about show like this and it sucks He's not here and and James Marshall about this and even Sasha about this and we're like What is this? This is so like non-sexual.  I believe it was Mike and he said you had said something that made me think about something that every single girl that You experience something with every single woman that whether it's sexual whether Mainly when it's or obviously when it's sexual But even when it's social and every person that you experience something with you leave a part of yourself with a little bit Of you changes a little bit of you moves and a little bit of you augments however Then there's that one That completely changes things and completely redefines you and man and I'm telling you one of the like three or Two years ago when I heard hypnotic speak he was talking about this, too He said there's that one and all of us are afraid of that one and all of us are at war with that one And all of us learn all these skills so that we could dominate But one day there's gonna be a girl that comes along and she's actually gonna change you and that is when you start to actually Work your sexuality that's when you really find out who you are and that's when you really find the beauty of Actually interacting and exchanging with another human being and here's the thing man Which also made me think of this and by all means if you have any questions just raise your hand as this is going on, but Then we'll get to you, but let me finish hand the mic to Ben, but let me just finish this in a second is that When I'm talking to somebody it has nothing to do with day game It has nothing to do with hired guns. It has nothing to do with a stripper or a prostitute or Whatever it has nothing to do with some chick or whatever in in the hallway in the daytime What it has to do with is absolutely this is that I Care and care about the human experience more than anything else and that is it and that's what allows me to connect to them It doesn't matter what the clothes I wear.   What's up? Okay?  No, man, you need action You need action to get experience But if you have experience if you have action without experience you're screwed But here's the thing man is loneliness. This is the fucked-up thing pickup is a tool very few people get good How many people here know somebody that's gotten good at the tools of pickup? Like I know like three people. I Know that are good man. I mean that like can go like I'm gonna go get laid I know you know people I know you know people and pretty sure you don't people But I mean the only I think three or four people raise their hand four people including me in this room of hundreds of people but uh, but the thing is is That that's kind of difficult. That's kind of difficult, but pickup is still a tool, right?  Is our gracious audience members have just said you're like me that's good, but those are tools, right?  You know, what does that knife do? What does that gun do that knife doesn't necessarily cut bread that knife doesn't necessarily be used for a tool to better things And knife isn't something that sits next to you, you know with your family and dinner anything like that It's a tool that can be used to hurt and all this other sort of stuff So when we actually learn the skills of pickup if you actually get good at them and you hold on to those things like loneliness and shame or Or fear the man. It's complete. It's completely that I've done many interviews and it's like man when I was When I was like God when I won when I beat CJ and sin for SNLs in one month or whatever it was It was like dude. That's when I realized I'm like God man.  It would be that that's that's that's when I started to relate with women. What am I having sex with them?   I hear tons of people speak Look at tons of people's products, but where are they helping guys with that man?  What you're talking about seems to me basically Action versus experience so it seems that you're talking about superficial versus an actual connection When I go out and I talk to a lot of girls a lot of time it always starts out superficial Sometimes it gets to that connection. Sometimes it doesn't how do you progress to that connection more so I guess Man, yeah, yeah, which you need technique to do that, but this is interesting So how many people where do you guys go to a club to pick up women? Are you that's where you practice cool go on the daytime? How many people go to a place they actually like? To pick up women. All right, and so and so part of the thing is it's like pick up is like pretty obsessed with clubs or daytime or these specific styles right and Here's the deal. This is the reason why I would heavily heavily endorse anybody going to a place they actually liked and Enjoyed to pick people up is because you're a slave to that culture I can come in here and give a speech of the 21 convention, but I cannot change the 21 convention I can influence it. I might be able to change parts of it, but I am not going to redefine the 21 convention I can go into the club. I can go into Wall Street and I can be the shit man I can wear the suit and dance and do all that stuff and man I'm a bit too old for that but when I first started man.   So if we're doing a daytime day game if we're doing it at night game if we're doing it at Somewhere on Wall Street We have to submit to Wall Street. There's a superficiality that comes into that. However, what are we serving? You know, we're not serving that we're serving something bigger than that because we value well Whatever it is you value if you value connection if you value sexuality if you value emotion if you value whatever different types of unique Experiences those are the things you go for but how do you get there? Well? Let's do this. How do you get there? Let me?  I have a gun Let's go into what I call rapport cycling right and I talked about this at the last Convention thing, but let's actually talk about the recipe of this. You need a topic You need an opening qualifier We'll shorten it just because I can't spell and you need a ground The ground has all these parts which have to do with with perspective. Look at this. We're making things confusing We have perspective. We also have what we're attracted to Man now this angle is getting hard attractive and Why we're asking them and then we have the most amazing part of it all we have the challenge really quickly and Definitely watch Some other stuff to get the gist of this this topic is based on our identity This topic is based on what we're attracted to so Josh take back the microphone Own it baby own it and let me ask you this. I'm gonna ask you this. What is it that you're truly attracted to? Confidence and girls confidence and girls. Yeah, and what does that mean? That means a girl who can be independent that means a girl that who's gonna have fun Not gonna be sitting in the corner of the club, you know texting or upset about something okay, but you don't want to talk to a girl sitting and texting in the club or You don't want her to be challenging that way you want her to be confident even when she's Experiencing the ideal what with you? It could be a walk in the park it could be sex it could be any of those things We're asking for a specific Yeah, how deep does that go because that all comes down to you man that comes down to your identity I know you know it. Yeah, I mean if it's sex if it's a walk in the park something That's a real connection the real experience with her. I don't think it actually I mean, I don't think it matters I think there's an ideal, you know for each Experience I would have with her cool cool cool So I just want everybody to like who's thinking thinking about this stuff or if you're watching it at home I want you to realize the depth of what I'm going for with this topic So if it's confidence or security We actually what our challenge is truly going to be based on is what our ideal is how we're going in this How we're going for this rapport cycle the two things of her poor cycle at this post to accomplish his Qualification which has a whole another definition to it in itself and rapport, but it will get there So we figure out our topic our topic figures out our opening qualifier opening qualifier is something like hey What do you think about security? So you might have to do or what do you think about confidence? So you might have to do whatever super superficial shit, but your superficial shit And this is like game 101 is to isolate like that's it like Isolate him so you can have this conversation if it means taking him over to the side if it just means turning him That's fine if it means taking him to another venue Isolate, but that's all it's serving because we want to serve what you value What you want to be experiencing with her and the more you can define that the more you can base your actions on it So then we go with our opening qualifier. What is it? that you think is is You know being confident right and then we go with our ground our ground is going to be perspective What we're attracted to and why we're asking them that's got to be in there so our perspective and keep it like 20 seconds or so right so our ground would be something along lines of like look man See I think attraction is a lot of things. I think I think confidence is a lot of things I think it can mean like how you stand up in a fight I think it could be all this sort of stuff, but to a woman what is most attractive is if she could Man if she could be so independent that if she knew what she really wanted what she really wanted wasn't owned by her Superficiality sorry, but could see them in a balance and what really served her man.  Let's say she can't answer because man. That's a heavy qualifier. Well guess what? You ground again you state your perspective on it You state why it's attractive and you ask why you're asking them directly And it just cycles and cycles and cycles and the more you know about your identity the more you know how to Identify those things the more that that challenge is going to be fulfilled and guess what if she can't answer And she's not qualified to talk to you Simple as that or if she gets pissed off at you by some process of what you're doing But you feel you did everything right then you're not qualified to talk to her and you walk away, man Because what is it that you're valuing you want to have an experience that you can exchange with a confident woman? The more you can define that the better you can challenge it the better you can Basically do the best you can at putting a road out in front of you What else this man Roman? Thanks, it's my old photo partners name. What's that my old photo partners name. Oh really nice nice for 26 years Well actually more than that now he photographed only strippers Yeah, what a guy. Yeah, yeah, I said thank you. Yeah. Yeah interesting dude.  I said now a lot a lot. Yeah I really liked what you were saying in the beginning about You know the the details of pickup versus like our purpose and sure in life and all that and My questions regarding that in my experience Basically when I come to these events and I learn all these techniques I feel like I get set back Mm-hmm because when we go when we go out and then I'm in my head I'm like, oh man, you know, what is the right thing to say am I doing it? Right? I'm doing it good all of that stuff right really gets in my way, right? When I'm and I've done a lot of work on my purpose and grounding myself and things like that So when I'm really present to that and I go out and I'm having fun I really appreciating the women for themselves and wanting to learn about them and being really interested in them like it I don't really remember what I'm saying, but it seems to work better. Mm-hmm. So how do you?  It doesn't have to be grandiose or anything like that The thing is is you have to know what you like, you know, and if you let me go into a little bit about Man, this is so crazy It's the other side's dirty. Is it that's hard to see it's difficult to see here. No Okay, so we get into attraction cycles attraction cycling rapport cycling and seduction cycling an amazing brand, huh? Whoo-hoo.   I write customized teases and eggs for people So Roman what's something? What's what's something that you're really attracted by like if you if a girl gave you this kind of attention, right? If a girl gave you this kind of attention What would make you go like oh man, that's awesome. That is so I love this girl What would be one thing like what would she do like if I saw her across the room? If you started talking to and you're doing your stuff and she like you're already talking to her She gave you that type of attention. What would it be? That's a good question She's laughs she likes she likes to laugh she laughs she laughs at what from you She she laughs at herself She laughs at herself, you know like she takes herself lightly Okay, so she laughs okay, so she can be easy-going she's easy-going person check this out I'll do some opening stuff, but here's here's a tease. Here's a neg and this is all I'm gonna do We're gonna take one of our standard nags. We're gonna put on like a little spin of what Romans deal What Roman finds is attractive, right? It's just a standard nag like oh my god. I still can't get along with you It's an easy one and then what we're gonna do is because Attraction game is all about reactions, man. It's a slave to seduction. There's nothing really great about this It's a means to get isolation and generate some emotion or seduction or both, but that's it That's it. It's just kind of the superficial veneer But why don't we have it go in a direction that feels good to us so we could just sit here and we could say like hey Like you know, she's talking to you man.  She's like no no no What are you talking about?  You probably only attract assholes All right, so you're starting to try and generate attraction that's gonna motivate you and guess what happens when you do that like here's how quickly it can move like 30 seconds or less you meet somebody they start messing with you start to sense something about them Let's say I'm Roman and I know man. I really like it. I love it. I love it when a girl You know starts to laugh at herself But in a kind of cute sort of way because you're gonna define it more the more we again I mean you think about that sexual life stuff and we look at experiences But instead we have actions or systems the more we have experiences with our actions and the things that we think about the more We're gonna define them so it's you know, it just keeps cycling around But you know that it's like man.  Well actually come here for a second Let me let me see something you don't need to isolate big time You she just says you you just say come here for a second Say, let me really ask you what to you is is is humor. What to you is that? Guess what that is. It's an opening qualifier which turns me into my ground which turns into My challenge which then turns into obvious or ultimately my definition or frame Keep going. What do you got? Well, I can see what you're talking about You can have the interaction go and have the interaction be About something that's aligned with your purpose or whatever you want that night Which I understand that to like whatever you whatever is calling to you that night What up and it's almost like you to me in my mind. That's like working backwards What I'm curious about is it's like well, I what I'm curious about is how do I Even before I approach or even go to talk to someone if I'm already thinking in my head about all these techniques and stuff right and for me it's kind of It's backwards thinking for me for me if I'm grounded in what I want whether it's my life purpose or whether It's just that night to have fun and yeah some new people Yeah, if I'm already grounded in that and I bring that forward then those things just generally work themselves out cool cool So how do I stay grounded in that when I'm trying to learn new techniques? How do I just maintain my ground and yeah my sense of being first off?  And I always hate it when people say well just have fun just do what you enjoy But really when it comes down to it man be social Realize that there's nothing more powerful, and this is why I want to dialogue with you guys This is why I this is why I teach man I don't really well. I want to make money But I teach to to experience with people man and everybody everybody that does something with me gets this especially if they're in Austin, but I Feel that Socializing is I don't have a big religious definition But I think it is the most one of the most spiritual things you can do when you can talk to somebody and expect nothing in return And that's huge So if you're in your head about stuff get talking to somebody get talking to somebody and don't expect a result But do everything you can to show yourself does that make sense? Right, so it's like hey, you know what happened to me What was it three years ago?  I was getting sued, you know, I guess I'm still in that lawsuit You know sin was burning me on this and all these people doing this and I was having all these like create I had all these girlfriends, but no real girlfriends, and I had all this sex But no intimacy and I was at the 21 convention and you know, it's like this is that's why it's a really important event for me And this guy Justin who was attending the 21 convention actually told me said Steve Why don't you go for the next like well until I you know kind of and I train this guy. This is a guy I coached mother fuckers giving me advice. He's like, why don't you just be honest to people?  I need to talk to somebody and dude. I actually did that.    This chick is the hottest chicken How do I talk to her? How do I talk to her? That's one thing But if you go in a club and you're afraid of every woman then that's another thing and That's where you have to start seeing the value of simple basic social interactions.    I'm the same as you guys. We're all equals in this room, man, you know Seriously when it comes down to it Answer your question. Yeah, thank you. What else you got? Anybody else? I do not know your name Jacob Oh, I'm Jacob. Yeah, and you said Yeah When you when you said about knowing what you want Yes, most people who start off in this well, at least I did I didn't really know what I wanted sure and This whole experience thing make for you at least it seems to be a spiritual experience Of course, you bond with people you emotionally connected set up when people first start out with this since they don't have Any experience they don't have the good or the bad When wouldn't you say that you just have to do stuff they would have to go out and have to have the bad experiences Dude, I yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely. It's a great question because I'll get on the phone with guys And they're like, hey, yeah, I saw your thing and your coaching program or whatever and I'll say like hey Well, dude, what are you attractive? What do you want? And they'll be like Well, I want you know and you can totally tell they've had like no experience, which is fine But it's important that they know what they want because guess what I can sit here and define thoroughly what I want When I start experiencing that shit's gonna change, you know There's one thing for certain in life.   It's like I don't want to get a black belt in life I want to keep living, you know, I want to keep experiencing But look the thing is is I think it's very very important very important to define what it is You want or what you think you want because right now what I think I want shit I've had I've had a pretty like stressful week. I think I want to relax.  It has to do with wanting what you have right now That's that's huge. You know, there's plenty of times when I will feel Lonely or whatever, you know or afraid of things and we are talking about some an experience God just in the other room and it was like man, I can do every I've Been like a badass motherfucker.  You never stop. It's it's a process. I got it. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, cool What else what else there was somebody on this Maybe not everybody's got it all figured out AJ Look at that man. This this man this man came up to me in the parking lot. It's not AJ, but it's okay What is it? It's JP JP. Yeah, my question is when someone is stuck focusing on getting results instead of The experience how do you backtrack and how do you fix that dude? Don't get me wrong results are good results without experience is what I'm talking about. So And you can hold on to the mic because the more I know that it's specific the more that I know specifically about it the better in fact I'm gonna Technology So the more that somebody If somebody gets too stuck on the results, we'll check it out last night we were in field Uh somebody Saw a really really hot girl right and we've all been there saw this really hot girl and he's like Look look at her right man. She's amazing.   All right This is this is something pretty nuts man.  What are the specific like results that you're at or maybe from your past experiences? Or that you've seen with other people um with my last girlfriend She was basically she had every quality I wanted and everything but I was so stuck in the result of Getting up like the right relationship having the right dynamics that I I was failing in the experience of Enjoying my time with her.  I'm a pretty stubborn person. So that I think is a Spiritual move, but man dude. I can't tell you how many times I've been there I mean it's crazy and I was talking about this with with with my buddies, but or in the other room before the speech But I have had so many girlfriends. There was a point when it was like I Would meet a girl that was so cool like you'll meet a lot of girls and it's just kind of like ah I was just doing this to do this You know I was just kind of like seeing if I had the chops or whatever and then you'll meet a girl and Or whatever your skill set is that it's like man. This is a girl dude. I could date this girl I could do like man. I am gonna date this girl. It's a girl.      This other girl likes me. I'm not fulfilled. I got to prove it you know and all those things are happening and again What am I afraid of I'm afraid of the experience not the experience of sharing her but the experience of myself You know and man, I was just talking to max about there are all the guys in the room max about this But I was like When it really started to get bad for me What were we talking about?  They felt empowered afterwards But I didn't get anything from it because I was afraid to experience how they would change me Just remember that that one of the first questions Mike said, you know One of the from the dialogue that I had with him was basically man.  What do I do? I put things in a box. I make it neat I put it in a system so I can make sense out of it and then I can go like hey guys I'm good. I got a b and cd down, you know, I got my checklist here You don't have to see me and that's the difference between results versus experience or results without experience Make sense to you. Yeah, cool. Cool. Cool. Do you say no? No, you're just stretching Cool, you want to be my doctor? All right, what else? Does this make sense to any of the new guys is going over people's heads? Mario Yes, I just wanted to say her name to be like sure dominant, right? Yeah guys would know Thanks. Can you quickly elaborate again on what you mean by I'm afraid to see myself. Is that you're afraid to connect? What do you mean by that? So Is it Josh Joshua, yeah, we're Jacob. God man. I'm so I'm terrible JP and I know what JP I should pick up but anyway, you were you were talking about wants, right? So I can list out my wants but until I start actually going for those wants You know, it could be like I want a glass of water until I take the step to go get that glass of water It's gonna start making making sense for me. So I Myself the more I interact, you know, some people can go and meditate for years and that's cool Man, I wish I had the discipline to do that and then you get to know yourself or however the story goes And I know people who've done that man I'd like I know a guy that's meditated silent meditation for 26 days and he's a pretty awesome guy Actually, I just texted him before I got on stage and he's like I'm in Italy But good luck and and it's kind of a he's a really cool dude I mean, I met him and at the most bizarre way through this whole industry, but But the thing is is with me I have a different different path.   What are all those things and dude? That all comes from me interacting with people that all comes from me socializing with people the more I do that The more I see whatever mirrors in front of me, you know The more I see that I get pissed off about this and that the more I see that I get happy about these things Because it's not just the lows man. It's the highs the more I start thinking that that I'm a I'm a Gracious person in life because I got all this adoration is Also defines my lows of loneliness when nobody's paying attention to me But all those things start to hold the mirror in front of me and I'll tell you what man I mean dude last week was probably the craziest that I've been in about three years Like just completely losing my my mind on things or stability towards things. There's nothing wrong with that I mean people go through those things and maybe there is maybe I'm maybe I'm lightening it But it's because man. I'm doing this inventory.  I can't have this conversation right now I really respect you and blah blah blah blah blah or hey, dude. I stepped on your toes Dude, I don't know how to I don't know how to do anything.  I don't know how to experience this This is new new new grounds for me fuck. You're angry at me. I did something wrong Okay, I know how to do these actions just like pickup. I know how to do these I can rely on these actions I can rely on this method All right, I'm gonna do this cool. Thank you walk away But that's how I have to learn how to experience those new emotions That's how I have to learn to experience those things man If you ever want to know how insecure you could be as a man try having three girlfriends at once and really care about them You ever want to know how oh god, man. It just gets crazy, you know But why I feel I have to do those things to get those experiences man. That's part of my insanity, but uh Greg what's up? wait for the mic wait for the mic I Really like the subject to your speech and being more genuine something. I've actually been working out a lot in the last few years myself as well One problem I have with this in general is and I thought you might have some good advice is sometimes I go to more I guess elite parties or exclusive parties where their environment is extremely extremely superficial and That's one time where I really seem to have trouble Breaking through that boundary and I and hopefully you know what I mean and those kind of environments were I mean It seems like everything there is fake and that's like the one time that being a genuine person Which I usually am fine with yeah It's super difficult to actually break through this kind of this facade which quite frankly I I hate But sometimes I place in that environment I want to know if there's an easier way that you found to get genuine because when I try to get one of those people it seems to Man and let me just say here look dude I think I have a lot of pride in what I do. I have a lot of pride in working with people, but It's just like man.   There there's well There's a couple things you can do, but one of the things that fucks with me because when that happens check this out When I am on the outside of something, let's say I didn't fit in with you guys because none of you guys raised your hand for that last question Let's say let's say Yeah, one second one second. Yeah, but I got you But let's say I didn't fit in with you guys. You know what I would do. I would judge you guys It's such a like whenever there's judgment.  So a lot of the times I have to leave. I Can't be a part of it man. I have to get out of there But the other thing I can do is learn to accept You know and the more I can accept the more I can share and the more I can be in your circle so an action Might be to leave an action might be to go in there and force yourself to socialize But the ultimate goal is is to actually relate with those people do this happens to me all the time I don't drink. I don't party.   You know and it's uh, it It just makes me mad, but also I got to look at my reasons for being mad It may not make you mad, but the more you isolate yourself from something Which is goes back to even what Ben was saying the more you're like not getting later feel you're out of the position Of whatever with women the more you're gonna build up this anger and all this other sort of stuff and You know, I mean due to its acceptance and a lot of times It's it's for me to leave and to start doing the things that I like to do, you know I'll just repeat it. I'll just repeat it. Go go ahead great It seems like I can socialize Yeah Yeah so So what are you saying is like a lot of times he has the the social skills correct me if I'm wrong to be able to You know survive or thrive or whatever in those situations But at the the same time he's not having that genuine connection in those areas and dude man That's sexuality for me that the more I do this Considerably less sex I have Because I'm saying I'm respecting myself in different ways, but dude I'm a trial and error kind of guy that had to learn that you know, I think you are too man But that's what makes you beautiful. That's what yeah, and I mean that yeah, go ahead You mentioned earlier about how we leave bits and pieces of who we are with everybody we meet and that We change everyone we meet in some way and how everyone we meet changes us in some way Can you elaborate on? What kind of ways we change others if we meet them for just a brief period of time and how they change us and?  They're necessary components.  I can just do whatever's happy.    I got to act I got to work, but I got to be around people like that in order to influence in that way now with women What are some of the things that changed me man when she loves me? When she loves me for me I Don't even know what me is man.   Well, I'm attracted to a girl has a sense of humor Man, but as I grow that sense of humor becomes an interaction with me and I love it I love it when she looks at me and she can laugh at herself or when she fucks up or when you know the The chicken gets overcooked or whatever or were or you know, whatever it is It could be a sexual experience.  Here we go. Here we go Hold on one second Is there almost like some kind of a fear of connection? Do you think not the connection itself? but But when you connect with something You put yourself on the line In a sense, I don't know it's a question like that has to do with you Are you just asking me theoretically?  Sure Everybody wants to be to be accepted And is is there almost like I? Kind of get the feeling that that sometimes we don't actually want to connect with somebody Because if we do connect and there isn't that acceptance I Know man, we don't want the results that like we really We really really want because if we have them we might actually have to live with them You know and all these people like this is another thing which I always like is that was like Steve You don't want to be successful Because Other why because you're afraid of it. What are you afraid of and the truth of the matter is is maybe that's the case But dude, I just don't value like Capitalism or whatever success in the same way that these guys who don't make any money, but theorize a lot about it you know do but Dude when it comes down to it, we all want connection. We all want connection.  But that that's weakness, right? That's that's not dominant enough and pick up But the thing is is through my life experience.  So our desire for that connection I want all you motherfuckers to like me, but if we're not having the conversation that I feel is bettering me at the moment and Then later as that conversation progresses bettering you at the moment Then out of respect for myself and respect out of those things that I value more Humanity in the human connection of humanity. You'll give up that connection. Yes Yeah, and a lot of the times.   Got five minutes, so I'm gonna end end this with this and we'll probably open up questions and See if I can strong arm Anthony to anything else now just joking I the thing is is the more we the more we talk about on this stage It's less of the conversation. I would want to be having with you guys You know and the most amazing thing that happens in this world the most amazing thing that I know of you know Is an experience that we can have with each other you know I I love teaching what I teach. I mean you can ask some of the guys that have worked with me Have you know ask them where it's taken them, and that's that's cool I can't really tell you man. Everybody's been asking me well. What do you teach you teach a style of game?  What I teach is So that you can hopefully Be your best self through your experience with me and through that And I mean the other fucked up thing about it is it's like dude I value humanity in connection with people so much and I see it as such a cherished and awesome thing and Everybody I interact with and hopefully you know hopefully I can have an experience that can be Maximized to the best potential you know remember those two options that either that were qualified to talk to each other Hopefully and that I'm asserting myself to the degree that I can actually elicit something in you Those are the two best things that I can hope for but I hope that I'm having that experience with everybody But look man what I what I teach is all those things all those things when it comes down to the sexual life Is your sex only in action or is it an experience is your seduction? Not just a process not just a series of steps But something that you actually share with somebody does it define who you are does it build your purpose? Does it build your beliefs does it shape your identity so that you can share it with somebody else is your sexuality?  I never want to figure it out just like I never want to figure out life I want it to be constantly walking on that road is my life remember those sexual life Sexual is an adjective for life man. Is my life a Mask or is it me? Is my life a series of actions? Is it just a model is it something that's a bcd or is it an experience that I'm having with somebody and Is my life shaped by my results or some sort of checklist?   Five something that's lower than you how can I relate with you?  I will tell you this Man, there's so much about me that has been Like I said, I went into the 21 convention in London and I had this awesome experience and had Life-changing experiences with people and it was beautiful. It humbled me as a person And I walked into the room and there was so much disorder and chaos and like I'm looking at how this industry is shaped in 21 conventions in amazing form But there's just so much stimuli and there's so much desire for what this thing is and pick up in the seduction industry and all Sort of stuff I go back home and I see all this chaos and like I said I'm in the middle of this inventory And man, I am in the most like crazy chaotic moment of my life Man where I feel so much emotion and so much doubt about things But the beauty of it is is that I have faith in a few things and I have faith in Principles that I will live by and one of them is to show up And no matter how much I feel this is one of those actions that I have to do because I'm afraid of what the experience is That if I am asked to speak somewhere or if I'm asked to be of service No matter where I am at I will take that job You know and I will take that and do that and deliver and man I'll tell you this week in this weekend has been a crazy fucking weekend for me Like I said the last last Saturday and Sunday were some of the most nuts ball experiences for me And I'll tell you what man all those all of those experiences in my life when I was growing up And I thought I was like isolated when I had whatever abuse happened to me when I was like fucking you know Getting wasted and man.  I know what loneliness is man I know what those things are but the one thing that has changed me is stuff like this where I can open myself up to You guys and share and see what I get back and hopefully afterwards if you're interested in talking to me Man, I would love to sit there and talk to you and have this experience and hopefully Have you influences me just as much as I can influence you if you want to do that man I'll be out afterwards and probably go into dinner Hopefully I'll smoke a cigar on the patio and we can continue this but guys the sexual life is About living life. It's about being sexual and it's about doing it with being while being you Thanks a lot


Hello, I'm Philip Cohen here to talk today about COVID-19 economic crisis. We're going to talk about what led to the crisis, the contours and extent of the crisis, and a little bit about some proposed solutions for where we are now. You may recognize this curve. This is the course of the pandemic from the beginning of March until now, the middle of September, late September. It's a familiar curve now with that big spike of deaths early on in April, then a decline, then a huge rise in cases in the summertime and a somewhat smaller rise in deaths. But I want to go back to understand the economic crisis, go back to here. March 15th, it looks like a very small pandemic at that moment. But at the time, it was a very big deal. As you can see from the New York Times, page one, March 16th. The virus toll is soaring, the economy is shutting down, business runs to a halt, schools, bars and restaurants are shutting down. And in New York, of course, New York was early because that's one place. The pandemic was so bad, but it gives you an idea of the shape of the shutdown or lockdown. It wasn't all because of the policy of locking things down. It was also people stop traveling, people became afraid, people stayed home. So you had a big contraction in the economy of all the things that involve people going places and doing things with other people. Now I'm going to show a lot of charts that have a lot of numbers and lines on them. And to help simplify the lesson from each one, I've put in red writing on each slide, the take home message for that slide. So if you're writing, if you're taking notes, that's where you should look first. We can quantify this shutdown, this closing down of social behavior using data from our mobile phones, which track our movements. And Google provides this data. This shows all 50 states and I've highlighted some of them. The amount of movement of people around their communities starting in March and up till the present. And you can see this huge decline, a huge contraction of social mobility in March that gets all the way down to almost 40% decline of movement. That's New York down there in April. Some states not nearly as much. And then things started opening up again later to varying degrees in different places. You can see the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally and South decoded there in August. But the general pattern is a huge contraction and then rebounding it different to different degrees. Of course, this was not limited to the United States and that's very important from an economic point of view. This just puts our overall economic contraction in some global perspective. These are the ten biggest economies in the world and going back to 2009. That first year, 2009, is going to be the Great Recession. What we used to call the Great Recession. And that's 5% decline in GDP, gross domestic product, the total economic activity in some places, very big. That red one is China, which always is a little bit different. But you can see a big decline, what used to be considered a very big decline in the Great Recession, followed by ten years of relative growth and prosperity, and then the last two periods there are the first two quarters of 2020. So the first six months, and this huge drop, an absolutely unprecedented drop in economic activity in many countries. The United States, not the worst by any means, but extremely bad, approaching a 10% drop in economic activity in the second quarter of 2020. What does that mean in terms of the United States? Jobs. This just shows you the number of people employed going back to 2000. You can see the little recession there after 2000. Then more and more and more people have jobs. Of course, the population is also growing during this point. A leading up to what used to be called the Great Recession 2007, 2009. A big decline in number of people employed all the way back down to about 129 million. And then this remarkable period of increasing employment all the way through the Obama years and continuing into the Trump years of more and more people employed up over 150 million people then employed. And then to March of this year, absolute drop. 22 million jobs lost in the United States, at least temporarily in March and April and the economic consequence of that is absolutely unprecedented. Here it is in percentage terms. You can see the percentage of people in their prime working ages, 25 to 54, employed again for the last 20 years. That rise since the Great Recession for both men and women and then the plummet in the last couple of months. So it's an 11% decline from February to April, proportionally a little bit larger for women for reasons that we'll understand in a minute. But that's the scale of that drop again. Nothing like this ever and we're way back to where we were, way back to lower than where we were during the Great Recession. Just briefly to put this again in context of previous economic recessions. That purple line is the 2020 recession, that's us right now. And you can see the drop is unprecedented. But the other thing to see is that the shape of what's happening now may be different. So we had a very rapid rebound in the first two months after, first three months after April as employment came back. We're still down 8% in employment and you can see the contrast with previous recessions which happened slower and then took longer to recover. We don't know if we're going to be rocketing back up or if we're going to be spending years and years coming back to where we were. So that's one question for now. So that's in terms of employment but we've also had a lot of businesses closed, especially small businesses. A good way to look at this is actually with Yelp. Yelp has been keeping track of the businesses that are listed as closed in their database. And they're up to approaching almost 100,000 closed businesses now and increasingly now they're permanently closed. So somewhere listed as temporarily closed or initially now converting to permanently closed. And so the permanently closed number of businesses is very high. Every one of these represents lost jobs, shattered hopes and dreams and so on. And they're all around the country. However, because of the nature of the shutdown, the businesses that are closed are not equally positioned across all sectors of the economy. You can see on the right that it's restaurants and retail that were the hardest hit. Those are the where we lost the greatest proportion of businesses shutting down, breakfast and brunch and burger and sandwich and gift shops, also clothing stores that suffered the most. And then the ones that suffered relatively least like lawyers and architects and accountants and some of outdoor work like trees and roofing and so on that continued going on. So not equally distributed. The pain of this shutdown and this great economic decline was not equally distributed by any means. These are the occupations that have the greatest decline in employment. This is the number of workers who were lost in each of these jobs. And you can see waiters, cooks, cashiers, retail sales, maids and housekeepers were among the hardest hit. In addition also some construction jobs and laborers as that work was canceled initially. But millions of workers just in these retail sales and restaurant jobs were lost. To get at the inequality of the losses, look at the census data that shows the loss of employment income. So these are people whose income went down from their jobs or from someone else in their household. So it's self or household member who lost money because of employment decline. And this basically is a catalog of U.S. inequality. Skipping gender, for a moment you can see Hispanic and Black workers are the most likely to have lost employment income over 50 percent of them. It's also single people, divorced and separated people. Then look at the income gradient. The people with the lowest incomes are by far the most likely to have seen a loss of income during this period. Also people with health problems. Fair health, poor health, good health, that decline there shows the people who already had more health problems are more likely to be suffering. And that's not, that's because of where they were socially located in the first place, the people with these service jobs and other jobs that were hard hit in places that were hard hit were people who were likely to already have health problems. Highly correlated with education. So people with less education are much more likely to have lost job income from this catastrophe. Households with children and younger people, more than older people. Older people, especially over 65, a lot of them don't have jobs to lose. So they're on their fixed incomes, retirement incomes or whatever. And those have not been so badly hurt. Just to get back to gender for a second, the reason that it's relatively similar for men and women is because most households have a man and a woman. So they're experiencing the same thing. But also there's more single parents, mostly women who are losing jobs because they're kind of jobs they have. On the other hand, old women who are retired, there are more old retired women who are not losing income. So I think that's why that balances out in the gender effect is relatively equal. But except for that, this shows a very strong, very strong relationship with all the things that we normally think of as inequality in this country. So it's exacerbating inequality. We're also not dealing with this crisis equitably. There are a lot of ways you could look at this. This is just one, the percentage of people who are unemployed, who are actually receiving unemployment benefits. It's a common myth that everybody who's unemployed gets the benefits. But in fact, it requires paperwork. It requires somebody to approve the paperwork. It requires the time and energy and know-how of how to get it. And you have to be in a place where the bureaucracy is supportive of that. So for all of these reasons, whites are much more likely than blacks who are unemployed to be getting unemployment benefits, Hispanics somewhere in between. And that has to do with the states they live in and the local governments and the access they have to this benefit that we're supposedly providing to help people through the crisis. So in addition to the certain kinds of jobs to be more likely to be affected, we also have inequality in how we're dealing with it. Now, separate from income, you can also ask a basic question like, do you have enough to eat? And amazingly, in the United States today, we have a very widespread situation of food insecurity, food scarcity. 22 million U.S. adults right now are living in households that didn't have enough to eat in the last week, that either sometimes or often didn't have enough to eat in the last seven days. This is as of the end of August. You can see for people who lost a job in the household, it's pretty common. 15% of those people don't have enough food. And then also black and Hispanic, more than white a nation. And look at the income under $25,000 income over a quarter of them didn't have enough food in the last week. Absolutely astounding numbers for the depth of the crisis and the emergency nature of this crisis. Lower education and also families with children are more likely to be food insecure at this moment, which is just terrible. Okay, let's talk about housing. Important background information to the current crisis is that rental cost burdens were already high and were rising for most renters in the last decade. So this chart shows people whose household incomes are under $75,000. The percentage of them who had a moderate or high cost burden from their rent, that is they're paying 30 to 50% of their income on rent, which is considered to be too much. So at the lower end under $15,000, most of them have cost burden, rental cost burden, and for all groups under $75,000, it's been increasing over the last decade. So we already have a housing crisis brewing in this country where people don't have enough money to pay for their housing and also pay for other things. So as the sociologist Matthew Desmond says, the rent deets first. And then where has this crisis taken us? The Census Bureau in that same survey asks people the percent living in households that are not currently caught up on rent. Are you currently caught up in rent in the household you're living in? 15% of people said they're not living in a household that is currently caught up in rent. It's highest among black households, lower among Hispanic and Asian, and lowest among white. Again, education and the income grade. And the same thing we're seeing, this crisis of food and income and also housing. I don't know what's going on with the people over $200,000. Why 12% of them are having a hard time paying their rent right now? That's something to look into. When people can't pay the rent, they get evicted. A huge part of the experience of poverty in this country involves eviction, involves getting kicked out of your house. And this has been happening during this pandemic, just like it does in the other time, with some exceptions, which we'll talk about. But first, let's just get a look at what it's like. Well, Deputy Benny Gantt with the Harris County Constable's office executes judges' orders to evit. Israel Rodriguez is the tenant at this apartment. It is not alone. 20-month-old Israel, his brother, four-year-old three-year-old, and her mother are some of the estimated 40 million Americans facing eviction in the downward spiral of the COVID economy. It ain't Russian, but do it again for me. Rodriguez admits he hasn't been paying rent behind thousands of dollars. It's my fault in eviction. It was like going out there in the corner. But when he, I lost my job. So it took me like a month to get another job. This is my change, but I ain't making it with 300 dollars. It's nearly 300 dollars. The scroller now carries their possessions. It's mainly the kids' clothes, because we inherit what's been told almost every day. Make sure we got no toilet paper, a little bit of paper for the kids. What are you going to do with all of your stuff? That's trash. They get thrown in the trash because we don't have a car, we don't have help. We don't have nobody that can come help us out right now. Nobody. We've got ourselves. We need to be with her. We need to be with her. How does you as a law enforcement feel about seeing a family like that? Oh, I forgot. I've got six kids. Six children.  Deputy Gantt, an officer for 45 years, is just starting his day. Eight evictions are on his list. A couple of victims are here. Two of them at each stop. People behind on rent are ordered to leave. Recessions. Hold out. Where are you guys going to go now? I'm going to the hotel. You can go to the hotel. As Deputy Gantt works through his list, we get word that 200 eviction orders have come through the Harris County Courts for this week. That's double what they normally saw for an entire month before COVID. 200 on Monday. What does that last a lot? Yeah. What does that say to you? Well, what that means is that they're ready to start having people who are losing population. It is a backlog. It's also just one person from one of America's hardest hit cities in evictions. The job takes its toll. I don't really want to put her out here. But I have to. And if this guy gets older. At this apartment, the tenant is an elderly woman. He can no longer afford the rent. The landlord to move her. And Sisto Munoz works. But he doesn't want to. I have a family name. I have a sister of my own. She's my mom. And we don't know. That's the place. That's the one I see you do. Midway through the eviction, Deputy Gantt decides it's too dangerous to evict her in the Houston summer heat. I'm not going to put her out here. And it's free. And we'll call social services instead. Is that the guy? But tomorrow or the evening? A one day retreat with an uncertain tomorrow. You have a situation where people aren't working. They don't have anything to invest in. Done a lot going to town. That's heartbreaking. That's just heartbreaking to see what these people are going through. I know there was a CDC announcement today. You've been reporting on it. Is it clear how it might work? Absolutely not. So at the end of the report, you see them mention the eviction moratorium and the confusion around that. Well, it's helpful in some ways and confusing in some other ways. It came from the Centers for Disease Control and so it's a health-based moratorium. This is you can't evict people under certain conditions where it may be spread the pandemic or be detrimental to their health. So there are five conditions for preventing that are necessary to prevent an eviction. You have to be seeking government assistance. You have to have an income below $100,000 or $200,000 for a couple. You have to affirm that you've had a substantial loss of income or an extraordinary medical expense. You have to be making partial payments if it's possible, if you can, and you have to say be able to show that being evicted now would lead to your homelessness or living and doubling up in crowded conditions which would be detrimental for public health. So those are the conditions that have to be met and then it's unclear because the guidelines are sort of vague and subjective who's going to actually be protected under this moratorium. It turns out it really depends what state you live in, even what county, even what judge you get when your eviction case comes to court. People still may have to go to court to fight these evictions. The other problem with this moratorium is it's not paying rent for people. It's just saying you can't evict them right now. So there's no relief for landlords. So a lot of landlords can't make their payments while they have tenants who are not able to make their rent payments. And then the rent, like the reporter said, the rent is accruing when the moratorium on eviction is up you will still have all the rent that you owed will now be a debt. So we'll have to resolve that later or else we're going to evict millions and millions of people when the moratorium ends. Okay, so what should we do? There's a lot of debate about what we should be doing about this economic crisis which is having such catastrophic consequences which is exacerbating inequality and which is not showing signs of rapid improvement at the moment. So here's one set of proposals from the Economist and Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich. Number one, the most pressing task of this stimulus bill is to contain COVID-19. Its catastrophic rates of sickness and death as well as tragic economic consequences require the boldest remedies this country is capable of mustering. There will be no economic recovery until the virus is contained. Other nations, among them Germany, South Korea and Italy have contained the pandemic with comprehensive testing, contact tracing and isolation. The House of Representatives wants to provide 75 billion dollars for these measures in addition to free access to coronavirus treatment and support for hospitals and other providers. This is the absolute minimum of what's needed. Number two, the bill must extend unemployment benefits to help people survive the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Previous coronavirus relief legislation added 600 dollars to weekly unemployment and extended coverage to gig workers and others not normally eligible. But these payments are about to end for roughly 25 million people. If they do, we can expect more human suffering and more joblessness because you see the extra purchasing power has helped sustain the economy. The payments should be continued at least through the end of the year as the House bill provides. Now some say the extra unemployment benefits have discouraged recipients from seeking jobs. That's rubbish. Given the size of the economic collapse, few jobs are available anyway. And normal unemployment benefits typically pay a small fraction of the wages of jobs that were lost. So even with the extra benefits, working people have a strong economic incentive to return to work once COVID is contained and these benefits expire. Not to mention it's good for the economy when people have extra money to spend to sustain remaining economic activity. And finally, it's beneficial to the public's health that as many people as possible avoid workplaces that pose any risk of infection. Keeping people home to contain the virus is the only way we get the economy back on track. Number three, the bill must prevent a potential wave of evictions and foreclosures. 32% of households missed their July rent or mortgage payments. The bill must extend the federal eviction moratorium and provide assistance for renters and homeowners to pay rent, mortgages, utilities, and other related costs. Substantial additional resources for housing assistance is a no-brainer. Number four, the bill must shore up state and local budgets. State and local governments are facing huge budget shortfalls over the next three years. Without federal aid, vital public services will be on the chopping block. Schools, childcare, supplemental nutrition, mental health services, low-income housing, healthcare, you name it. At a time when the public needs these services more than ever. For public schools, the issue isn't so much whether to reopen, but how to do so in a way that doesn't risk the health of students, teachers, and other school personnel. This will require substantial additional resources. If we could afford to give corporations a $500 billion blank check in the last round of relief legislation, we can surely afford to help struggling state and local governments. The House bill provides nearly $1 trillion to state and local governments, which is minimally adequate. Number five, don't compromise what's needed in the bill out of concern about the national debt. The real issue is the ratio of debt to the size of the economy. The government must spend large sums now to help the economy recover faster, thereby reducing the ratio of debt to the overall economy over the longer term. Besides, as we learned during the Great Depression and World War II, large spending to reduce human suffering and promote economic well-being is well worth the cost. It's what almost every other nation is doing. Now, not everybody agrees with those proposals, but that's one set, and they have some common elements which you'll see in a lot of the debate. One key point to be made through all of this that economists tell us is that it's good, it's necessary and fine for the government to be borrowing money, a lot of money right now to spend to help mitigate this economic crisis. Interest rates are very low. Getting the economy going is better for the national debt in the long run anyway, so spending money is good. The question is how to spend the money. One obvious thing to do, they've already done some and may do more. Cash stimulus, simply sending people money. Increasing unemployment insurance or continuing the emergency unemployment insurance that we had during the summer. Rental assistance, so not just a moratorium on evictions, but actually putting money in the hands of renters and landlords so that people don't get evicted and landlords can maintain their properties. Increasing food support, whether it's food stamps or support for meals in schools, including for schools that are closed. And then there's the huge problem of state and local governments that are having catastrophic budget crises of their own, which is leading to large-scale layoffs of people like firefighters and medical workers and all kinds of state and municipal workers. And so without a big infusion of cash from the federal government to state and local governments, we're going to see a lot more unemployment and declining services down the road.


Long-shulked is an individual that has for a long time seen the need for common data vocabulary and semantic introsperability. So with that, I'll pass it over to Long-shulked. Thank you Michael. And I appreciate everyone's presence here as we get into what I consider a very important part of how you manage data. I truly believe it's important to manage data by, first of all, understanding the metadata associated with data. And the ODAC standard is one of, I consider a critical part of that, whether it be toward smart cities or smart anything or help you manage the vast, big data associated with a business. And I've got an example with a use case. The use case happens to be associated with a very, very large shipping company. Their enterprise architect is directly involved with the ODAC project team in helping to put together a use case. And I'll be briefly talking about that in this slide. So with that, to start with looking at what are some of the typical problems. And then the shipping industry use case will highlight some of those problems and the need for a solution because of the complexity of what they have to go through. And as highlighted by Don, when you want to understand and analyze data, you naturally begin to categorize that. When I was growing up, I played the game of, is it a person, place or thing? I don't know if you've played that game. But in so many questions, you get down to what it is that the person's thinking about. And you answer either yes or no based on them asking questions. And then you get down to figuring out what it is. Well, there's a natural tendency when we look at something new to categorize. And I'm going to provide an illustration of how ODF is an intuitive categorization approach. And then, you know, what are the capabilities that are necessary for a solution, which really are going to highlight what ODF is all about. And then what are some of the key features of ODF? And then what's the business value of the ODF standard? So what are some of the typical problems? First of all, enterprise applications within the stove pipe or silo, if you will, of one enterprise are generally built with that regard to a common vocabulary across those applications.  And in many instances, large organizations, and I came from a large organization called Lockheed Martin, a very large organization with thousands of applications. So our spider web was tremendous. And then many organizations also have this exchange data with multiple external organizations. And then some people would say, well, how about using standards? Well, problem there is, many of the standards out there conflict with each other. With the exception of two standards on that list there, every one of those other remaining standards all deal with the concept of address, physical location, address. You think that at least they can get their act together and compare notes to come up with a common approach for how address should be represented. And that's not true. So it's an issue.  So. Or the two. You want to ask me see if you can see? Yes. Shipping industry. Again, a very large shipping company. They, not only is there the item starting at the factory, ultimately getting out to the end consumer, the item, but then there's the containers that go around multiple items. So you've got the container carrying, you know, thousands of items within them. And then you've got thousands of containers on container ships. Or on, you know, you could have a thousand containers riding on a train. You might have two or three containers, you know, going by truck. Bottom line is you've got multiple companies. You've got multiple countries and locations, especially when you get into crossing borders, country borders. So you've got export import requirements. You've got lots of planned and actual events that happen. And then you've got unplanned events like hurricanes, in the case of, or other kinds of weather issues for the trucks and so forth. And then you've got reporting requirements. You want to know the status of your containers. You want to know the status of those goods that are in the containers. And there's no common vocabulary. And the senior architect from this large shipping company saw, heard about the ODF at the last open group meeting, which was in London, said, I like what you've got here. We need to incorporate it. And they're involved now in helping us build a guide for the use of the ODF. So I'm going to provide you a little bit of insight into what that is. But first I want to highlight their, their problem is very complex in the shipping industry. You've got all these legs with each, you know, whether it's the train or the ship or the truck, you've got all these legs.  And then it goes on to the next carrier and then the next carrier and the next carrier. In addition, they have a plan for all of Lewis 4 items. And then something happens, you have to adjust it so it becomes an estimated time. And then you've got an actual. And so you're keeping track of the log that keeps track of all the day times of all of these things. And so all of these things then are part of a string of things that they need to monitor because they all have to ultimately be recorded. I'm going to use the analogy here out of chemistry. When you combine different elements from the periodic table, you get molecules. If you combine multiple molecules, you can get a compound. And when you want to understand what you have, you typically do analysis, you do some sort of testing to find out of a given compound. You do different types of testing for certain liquids and then boil it or heat it to determine what kind of elements are part of that compound. And so for the analysis, there ultimately has to be a rigorous data categorization. That data categorization is typically, I hope everyone in here is familiar with periodic table. All the elements known to man are part of a periodic table. And they can be arranged in different sequences based on how they want to use the data. But what's important is each of them has a unique ID. So helium is number one because it has one proton associated with that atom. Helium has the number two. It has two protons with that atom and so on with everything else that's in this list. And so when you combine different elements, you then can have molecules and molecules combined can become compound. I'm going to suggest to you that ODEP is quite similar to the periodic table but for data elements. And each concept in the ODEP has a unique ID. When you combine two, when you combine things from the ODEP, you get data on concepts and then when you combine more of those data on concepts, you get a data model. So the capabilities of a solution, analogous in many ways to the periodic table, you need a basic grammar for data descriptions. You need a consistent and reasonable way of tagging the data. In other words, this ID. You can use those IDs in the periodic table to understand and they've got H2O and there's a way of the semantics of mixing chemicals that is consistent across the entire science of chemistry. You need a language independent unique identifier for each data element concept. So since it's language independent, if you've got a concept and then it's initially based on English, but that same concept then in Russian or German or French or Chinese will end up having the same ID. Similar to an IP address, www.company.com has a unique ID that finds that unique spot on the planet in the inner. And so what you want to do then is enable the use of existing vocabularies. The ODEP is going to be something that's very fundamental and very intuitive, but they will plug in existing standards that are existing vocabularies. So some of the features of the ODEP officially published by the open group in May 2016. It enables interoperability with an intuitive categorization of basic units of data that does have a language independent unique ID for each concept. And the core index for being part of the basic standard has 12 basic object classes and there's just a few of them there. Fundamental, what is an enterprise? What is a person? What is a product? What is a process? What is an event? They're all defined and they have unique IDs. Similarly, basic fundamental properties, name, date, amount, quantity, time, measure, text, date, time, there's a total of 14. Currently, and it's not limited to this set, but currently we have identified those four standards as plug-ins to the ODEP. So the United Nations Standard Product and Services Code, we have a fundamental core object called product. The United Nations has tens of thousands of products and services identified in that standard. And so that entire list, that entire taxonomy is a plug-in under the object class called product. Why reinvent that wheel or even try to? There's decades of work that went into that standard and it's also the same body that gives you the bar codes that you find on anything you buy at the grocery store. Okay, UNEC Rep 20, units of measure. It's got hundreds of units of measure used by the United Nations. And I can't, if you look at that set of units of measure, I can't imagine any unit of measure that's not already on that list. Each of those has a unique ID associated with each of those products and services, each of those units of measure, and then standard industrial codes. If you are in the U.S., you're obligated when you get your IRS ID to have to go and find out what kind of business are you, and you have to get a standard industrial code. So you have to record that for your business. It has been done, you've already done it in the U.S. There's a similar one, but it's a little different in the U.K. And then currency codes, nice little standard currency codes. Okay, also, and by the way, that's not a limited list. Any other standard that you want to plug in to an appropriate spot that you've voted, you can do that. The current snapshots have extensions for the concept of date, so things like birth date, delivery date, production date, and so forth. An amount cost amount, price amount, tax amount, and there's not a limit to other extensions as well. So just using that core set of ODEV objects and properties, you can get these kinds of concepts in this, it'd be much longer than this, but these are just examples. So person identifier, enterprise identifier, person family name, person given name, and so forth, as you can see there. And the unique ID, so no matter what language you're in, the concept of enterprise ID would have two underscores, one across all languages. So to the shipping event model, again, I've already highlighted the fact that there's a low departure of arrival unload, and this particular company to highlight the complexity of their problem and why they see value in the ODEV. They have 742 vessels, they carry 12 million containers every year, and they call, you know, stop at 343 ports in 121 containers, and they have to keep track of all that, and there's, they lack a common vocabulary. So they're quite interested in coming up with an approach that would leverage ODEV to help them in their problem. In the case of ODEV, there's a fundamental core object called event, and so a proposal would be to extend event with a dot transport dot load and a dot transport dot departure, in other words event, dot transport dot arrival, and event dot transport dot download, to capture those four events as an extension to the ODEV object. Similarly, an example of the plug-in. When you go from port to port, the export import folks want to know what's leaving the country, and before it arrives at the port, they want to know what's coming in. So there's a United Nations standard UNSPSC. If you go to that URL, and then you enter the word steel beams in their search title, you'll get those two options, steel beams or stainless steel beams, and they have a unique code associated with each of them. And if you went in and wanted plants, there's, I mean, there's over a thousand different types of plants, from live plants to cut plants to roses to, anyway, it's just huge. But the point is these codes then can be used within the ODEV syntax. So if you combine that then, so that UNSPSC is a plug-in under product, which is an object class, a fundamental object class, and then the UNEC erect 20, which has all these units to measure, is a plug-in under the measure, then you've got a complete ODEV name which says I've got a product, it's UNSPSC version 18, I've got steel beams, underscored, I've got a measure, UNEC erect 20, mechanics.mass.ton.hype.metric.ton. So you want it, you know, obviously they have metric ton, and then they also got, you know, the standard ton as used in the U.S. So that whole concept then has this other ODEV data concept identifier, which is derived from the syntax of the ODEV itself, coupled with those IDs that are coming from, in other words, TME is the representation for the UNEC erect 20 for that measure. And similarly, if this container ship has a temperature sensor because they've got a refrigerated container, you want to know what the temperature is, and you want to know the end of the measure of that temperature sensor. So applying the same principles with UNSPSC version 18, and just enter temperature or sensor, you get all the different kinds of sensors that are part of UNSPSC, and then the code associated with a temperature sensor is that one there for 1111970, and then you're monitoring the temperature in Celsius, and so again, the complete ODEV main following the syntax rule of the standard is as shown here, but its equivalent data on the concept identifier is as shown down below. So what does that do for you? The value to the shipping industry is I can say I've got 150 tons of steel beams, and in another country it's 150 whatever that is in Chinese, and the ship's manifest then is capturing the ODEV code so that when they show up in a different country, then that code is understood, and for the sake of transferring something like those codes, you're reducing bandwidth. It's simple. You're sharing vocabulary that reduces the need for multiple APIs, and you're basing it on existing standards. You're just giving it a framework that allows all these existing standards to be shared amongst multiple companies in multiple countries. It's an open source standard, again using these plugins. It's translatable into human readable language. Hopefully these concepts, it's a temperature center that's measuring degrees Celsius. Now yes, it's lengthy, but it's understandable, and using this ID, you go across all languages, and it's enabling better communications across borders, across languages. This is my last slide. If you want to get more information about the ODEV, this is a link that allows you to get that information, and that's my email. I'm the chairman of the ODEV project. Thank you very much, Ron. What do you say, Ron, is a good project to start working with the application of ODEV, because a standard like this, as comprehensive as it can be, can also seem a bit intimidating. What would you recommend is the ideal project to start picking the timers with something like ODEV and trying to tame the beast of data? If you simply went to the current ODEV object classes and properties without worrying about how to deal with plugins, you can get hundreds of concepts that are common to almost any business. I mean, person family name, person given name, enterprise name, person identified. There's just a whole lot of concepts that are common to so many businesses, just with the original core set of the object classes and properties. Just look at what's there, and I want to highlight, very significantly, that we can extend ODEV, submit a proposal, or get involved with the ODEV project team, and propose extension as to what's already there. And the process is really quite simple. I'm wondering, couldn't you imagine, I mean, the RDF is the basis of the submit to go. I mean, you're all set up with the notion of subject by the object. Why we can't help market ODEV as the concept of its RDF ready. The entire ODEV standard itself is already in the standard, it is RDF, and it appears as RDF. I just, you know, I don't know what people get. I mean, I think we're probably getting to the point where people get that RDF is the message that's making semantic web happen, making autonomous cars happen, making this next generation of sport things.  The Internet of Things, I have one example here, but this obviously could play a key role in the Internet of Things. Because anything you can imagine is probably got some sensors tied to it. And you go to the U.S.B.S.C., they got pressure sensors, they got temperature sensors, and energy sensors, and they got spout here, the kind of sensor thing. And then just what kind of given measures of, you know, speed of light. Sometimes what holds up the adoption of these sorts of things is that it requires some manual input tagging these things, bringing them in. But now that we have technologies that do recognition and video and other mechanisms, different types of sensors, and we can play and use intelligence, is there a way of sort of automating the input across the business process like shipping, where some sort of automated machine type approach brings all that data into that ODEV that then therefore allows for that cross-pulmination to not data ecosystem? Yeah, if a company is a member of the U.S.B.S.C., we're able to download an Excel file that contains all of the U.S.B.S.C. names plus their codes. If you're not a member, then anybody can go online and do what I sort of have to show here on the slide. In addition, on the ODEV website, we're in the process of building an application that will allow you to enter some terms, and then get associated with ODEV ID. I'll also offer a question that you've just asked is, to me, a very cool one. I think everyone in this room and maybe everyone in this conference, we sort of intuitively get this. We know this is a good thing. We all, in our respective teams and projects, perhaps have explanations or excuses, different priorities, right, and dictate why we haven't done it like security in many cases. But what makes this kind of exciting and a good opportunity for many vendors and IT consumers is the dynamic you just mentioned, that some of the technologies that could support this happening at scale are in place. But part of what we're doing is trying to lay the groundwork where you support an industry like shipping, you support industries like Smart City, and Open Group is not really in the market to make money, but as a group here to facilitate innovation, better success, better technology through open standards. So that's what we've been working on. I work for a company that I make that suggestion to, but I'm not CEO, so I can't make it happen. If your company is in that realm, I strongly agree with you, because I imagine there's market value, because even data entry folks are going to be more expensive than they are model-powered by a loss in, or an alpha go, or a deep mind, or what happened. So you're exactly right in seeing that. And we're providing a foundation, offering it to the community, and seeing where people want to take it. Imagine that Google DLP is a lot of venture, they charge $20 an hour per hour, and it pays a lot of deals. So you can set a stream of data, it's a first name, last name, and more than one.  That is a target. Give it back to you for $20 an hour. Well, shouldn't there be one that does the same thing, that actually pipes it through ODAF, in Chexton, and then essentially plug it, calls you in SBC, and gives you that cut roses into a 114039. Yes, and should that be $20 an hour? Sure. And then you have, is $85,000 or $185,000 a list? Well, in the version 18, it was $87,000. Is $87,000 going beyond that? So yeah, that would be great because essentially what you've done is you could take your print, all of your data to an integer, and isn't that the same as asking? That's one step shorter. It's actually cheaper, because you don't have to classify it into a word and then don't want to classify it, and then have a key fill. You could actually put it in the USBC code. So it's a great story, just, you know, something like that. Since all the work from the ISA mine file model, it's very similar. I guess that would be a standard that we can have an association with. That's the price model where they do feedback checking between companies and ISA. I suspect that the contents that we have of this company are probably aware of that. So could you, is that ISA or? ISI. ISI. Sorry. I didn't quite answer. Do we have any other questions for Home Short as far as business value, or some of the semantic applications of the ODET standard? And if you're not sure who the right person has your question is, if you have followed this, a panel discussion with our speakers today, so you'll have opportunities to field your questions to multiple folks. Hearing none of the questions, again around the applause for Ron Scholler.