Good morning everyone and welcome to class. We are going to continue our study on the book of Titus. Last week we began looking at, we studied chapter one, we began studying chapter two, two was eight and so today we'll continue with chapter two where we look at the instructions that Paul is writing to Titus regarding the bond servants in the church before we begin. Can one of you please lead us in prayer please? Anyone? Zalutoni can you ask you to lead us in prayer please? Sure pastor let's pray. Father God we come before your presence in the name of Jesus. We thank you so much for this time to have our class today. You bless pastor Samina as she teaches the word from your word. Lord also bless each one of us. Lord give us your insight and understanding. Holy Spirit you guide us lead us throughout the intercession Lord. In Jesus mighty name. Amen. Amen. Thank you Zalutoni. So we'll begin studying chapter two versus nine onwards. So can one of you please read verses nine to thirteen of Titus chapter two please? Titus chapter two versus nine to thirteen. It's all bonds that want to be obedient to their own masters to be well pleasing in all things not answering back not referring but showing all good ability that they may atone the doctrine of God our Savior of all things. For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men teaching us that the nine ungodliness and worthy that we should live so worthy right here see and Godly in the present looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. I was 14 as well Jeffina. Thank you. Who gave himself for us that he might redeem us from every malice deep and purify for himself his own special people Zellers go to books. Should I finish? Yeah. Thank you. Amen. Thank you. So in verses nine to ten Paul is writing to Titus and he's giving him instructions for the bond servants in the church. He's exorting the bond servants to be obedient to their masters and Titus was to teach bond servants bond servants basically slaves. I've explained to you what's the meaning of bond servants about their specific duties as Christians. I've also explained this when we were studying Timothy. So I'm not going to be explaining in detail but just that you know in in the church context in the church basically masters and slaves used to worship together and this was kind of a you know big cultural shock to people I mean to the world around them because you know slaves and masters together in a social setting at a church service but this was something that you know God was teaching to the church to the world around not to differentiate between slaves and freemen. So Paul gives five ways that slaves were to relate to their masters. Now since there were believers the slaves they can't take advantage of their masters but he gives five ways as slaves were to relate to their masters but when we look at it in our context it's not only for slaves but everyone as you know all of us as Christian employees what are the kind of qualities we need to exhibit or we need to showcase in the workplace. So he says that you know slaves or those who of us are employees in the workplace we need to be obedient to our masters basically here you know Paul is saying that those these bond servants had an obligation to their masters they were supposed to be obedient to them and this word obedient is basically describing a company of soldiers or the group of soldiers was standing at the tension and saluting their commander and when they're doing that they're basically telling or declaring to their commander that they are you know here right in front of them sorry right in front of him to take on any orders that he has for them. The second thing he says is that you know slaves should be well pleasing in all things you know have a cheerful attitude in the way they serve their masters in every way they need to have a cheerful attitude and he says in everything in all things that means in everything they need to require to be obedient to their master in every area you know they need to submit they need to surrender they need to be obedient they need to be responsible to their masters but if their masters tell them to do something that is not in accordance with what God has established in his word or the commandments of God it's going against God's moral or righteous laws or values then you know you're not supposed to you know obey our earthly masters but in all things we obey them but if they ask us to do things that are going against what God has commanded us according to his righteous laws and his moral standards then we don't do it so for example if you're a Christian employee and your manager or your employer you know ask you to lie or to engage in dishonest accounting practices then you don't obey them you don't submit to them in that area as long as you know they are asking you to do what is pleasing in God's sight then you you know you obey them but if it does not please what God is asking you to do it's not according to his moral righteous standards then you shouldn't be submitting or obeying your earthly masters or your employer okay and we also see that he says you know you should not back answer I've explained quite a bit of this when we were studying 1st Timothy chapter 6 where Paul is writing to Timothy about how born servants have to relate to their masters who are also Christians so I'm not going to go into much detail because I've explained there in much detail they should not answer back they should not you know back bite they should not talk behind their back they should not you know argue with them this is not showing a subordination or this is not pleasing in God's sight and then the fourth thing he says not proliferate now prolifer means you know to misappropriate or steal or cheat or take away money or goods you know that belongs to their masters now you know slaves were often interested with some money to make some purchases or supplies for the household and they had this rationale you know what if I just take a little money it's not going to you know harm my master they're so rich they have so much of money if I steal from them or if I take a little from them it's it's not going to pinch them in any way it's not going to you know cause them any problem any way they're living in a luxury so this is the kind of the mindset that slaves had and so in the ancient world sometimes the words servant and thief servants and thief were used interchangeably because it was assumed that these slaves or servants would steal from their masters in these small ways so they used to use thief and servant or slave you know they used to use these words interchangeably so for us also as well you know as employees sometimes it's very easy to use the same kind of national you know when we take away from the company especially larger companies or the government companies where we say hey you know if I take away some money even in ministry if I take away some of the money that people give and tithes and offerings it's not going to pinch God it's not going to pinch the church because this church is so rich there's so much of money you know it's not going to do anyone any harm and I think that is I think it is wrong it is wrong in God's eyes because that is stealing that is cheating and that is and not honorable in God's sight so you know if if you're using for example you're traveling you know and you and the office or the church gives you the the privilege of claiming those expenses then you take exactly what you have spent and not extra thinking that hey you know I can do that the church is rich or my employer is rich or this organization is rich and it's not going to harm them or pinch them in any way if I take away a little money so is that is not not delivering and the fifth one is not but showing all fidelity okay a fidelity this phrase basically means to act faithfully or even in every possible occasion in all possible ways you know to act faithfully without using fraud or causing injury or doing wrong transactions or involving in wrong in wrong transactions with their masters so as a slave or as an employee you know we must act faithfully in all affairs you know of their master and not cheat them because ultimately we're serving God not man we are responsible to God not man we are answerable to God not man because we are serving him and he's watching over us okay now why is Paul mentioning all of these things was so that you know the believer slaves will stand out from the rest of the slaves in the world you know of course the slaves did not like the fact that they were slaves and they used to fight back you know or they would fight back for their freedom they would show a wrong attitude they would show you know bad moods or bad temper they would speak wrong in a rude disrespectful way to their masters steal from their masters and would try to get away by doing all of these things but Paul is saying that you know as believer slaves don't do these things you know I set an example and you know what would be the results if you live like this what would be the result if you are faithful if you obey your masters if you don't cheat them if you honor them if you don't backbite behind them says that they may adorn the doctrine of God as savior in all things so Paul uses this word adorn in a very beautiful way because the word adorn is used of the setting of jewels you know it means arranging precious jewels in a very orderly precise neat skillful way that would bring about the beauty of each gem of each precious stone and would just you know enhance the whole piece in a very intricate in a very execute in a very beautiful way so in the same way Paul says that as Christians we should order our lives with such godly behavior that we will be like that a jewel piece you know that we would you know just radiate the beauty of each of those gems those precious stones in such a beautiful way that the world will be attracted to our savior so if you look at you know beautiful jewelry pieces it's because of the way that they are designed the way they are arranged the way those precious stones are just beautifully arranged in a very skillful beautiful way and that enhances the whole piece of virtuality so he's saying that when you live godly lives godly behavior the world will be attracted to the savior so the life ministry and the saving work of Jesus our God our savior will be put on exhibition you know with all of its beauty to the unbelieving world by a person who has a godly character and a godly conducts you see how important it is to have a godly character and a godly conduct we often think that you know it's the way we preach is the way we teach is it's our style it's our charisma you know that adorns the gospel yes it is important to preach and teach well and to be prepared and you know to to teach in in a way that people can understand also enhance our language skills our preaching skills interpretation skills all that is important but what really matters is what really stands out is our lives and our lives are the 12 piece that really you know adorn the the person work and the ministry and the saving work of Jesus Christ you know people accept the gospel in a real quicker way so our lives speak volumes so in this context you know the barn servants were slaves who were brought with money and you know and of course they are treated like animals they don't have any freedom they don't have any rights but it's God's design that these people even in their lowly position have the potential to you know beautify God's truth beautify God's doctrines in the way that they live isn't that beautiful so we might be nobody's we might be not great preachers great apostles great teachers you know great men and women of God we might not people would not even know who we are but you know even in our lowly position wherever God has called us whatever wherever he's placed us to be you know we have the potential to beautify God's truth in the way that we live excuse me sorry I'm having a bad chest infection so what does it mean this means that we need to think about our behavior we need to think about our attitude especially you know the workplace how what will others think about the God that we serve the God that we worship the savior that we profess to follow and if our life is not an example of godliness as Paul is reiterating here or mentioning it here or spelling out here then I think it's good not to let anyone know that we are a Christian because if we do we'll basically be blaspheming the name of God we will be bringing dishonor to the name of Christ and our believers will continue to you know live in a sinful manner we would never be able to show them that they can live sinless they can overcome temptation they can do what is right and honoring in God's sight and it will our lives will you know will be an excuse for them to live in sin you know we who profess to know the true and living God God who died for our sins God who set us free from the power of sin death and Satan if we continue to live in sin then the unbelievers will have all the more excuses to make for their sin and continue to live in sin any questions on verses 9 to 10 any questions okay we'll move on to verses 11 to 14 we've already read this so I'm not going to ask any of you to read it but verse 11 says the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men okay so God's grace brings salvation to all men and it means here to all kinds of people to all types of people including those whom the world despises even the slaves no one is beyond or outside the reach of God's grace amen you know those of you praying for your loved ones can know that no one is outside or beyond the reach of God's grace and you know the grace of God brings salvation which again goes on to mean to say which I've already explained that this does not mean that all people will be automatically saved you know but only those who accept the grace of God those who believe in the Son of God but the good news is that the grace of God or the good news of God's grace is that no sinner is beyond the reach of God's grace okay and that is why Paul calls himself as the being one who was the chief of sinners he mentions this in in first Timothy chapter 1 verses 13 and verse 15 he says that you know I being the greatest of sinners or the chief of sinners you know but he says I experience the grace of God through the cross so if the chief of sinners could experience the grace of God so can everyone and then he says the grace of God that brings salvation um so it's the grace of God that brings salvation to us and we have the opportunity to receive it okay verse 12 says teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lust we should live soberly righteously and godly in the present age so teaching us that now the ancient Greek word for teaching basically has in mind what a parent does for a child it speaks of the entire training process you know the training process is the the parent teaches encourages again corrects disciplines again teaches encourages corrects discipline so it's a cycle okay so here that is what it has in mind about teaching teaching is not just imparting and leaving but teaching encouraging correcting and disciplining and the cycle goes on so grace is a teacher in that sense so the Greek word here for teaching means basically a discipling us the passion translation says his same grace teaches us how to live each day his same grace teaches us how to live each great day his same grace means that the grace of God that brings salvation or the grace of God that has brought us salvation the same grace teaches us how we need to live each day and this is a process that begins at salvation and continues until we stand face to face before the Lord but note sorry but we need to note that grace does not mean live as you wish or desire but rather grace trains us it teaches us encourages us corrects us and disciplines us and instructs us in godly living so this is another attribute or a facet that grace does grace disciplines us is instructs us in godly living and then Paul mentions three ways that grace trains us the first one is that grace trains us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires so when you experience God's unmerited favor in Christ Jesus it basically motivates us to want to please him in everything that we do so as you read God's word you realize that you know there's so much in your life that is dishonoring God it's going against God's will you're living in willful disobedience and what is breaking the heart of God what is you know grieving the spirit of God that is living in you and you know it's what is displeasing the Lord who gave himself up on the cross to save you from sin and to bring you eternal life to bring you salvation and then you begin to you know confess your sins you begin to correct yourself and then you also deny yourself daily and you take up your cross and you follow him like we read in Luke chapter 9 verse 23 okay and grace also trains us to say no to ungodliness okay this refers basically to a person who is immoral living an immoral life a life that is away from God full of evil but it also includes the person who's you know outwardly looking very righteous or behaving very righteous behaving very holy but deep down has no place for God in their life okay and these kind of people you know in their everyday life they are motivated by their sinful desires their sinful passions it's that I me myself that is ruling them and there is no place for God now the person who has tasted God's grace will say no to such ungodly living okay so a person who's tasted the love of God the salvation of God the grace of God would you know say no to such ungodly or godless living the second one that Paul mentions grace trains us is grace trains us to live sensibly righteously and godly in this present age it's just not enough for us to say no to ungodliness and worldly desires we must also say yes to living a righteous or holy a blameless a godly life so that you know just like Paul tells the slaves you know so that the world around us will be drawn to our savior okay the world around us will know how the God that we serve will be attracted to our savior even as they look at how we live in the workplace how we conduct ourselves in the workplace now here it says grace trains us to live sensibly sensibly refers to how we are to exercise self control over ourselves you know self control in every area of our lives so righteous living has to do with you know us living a life of integrity honesty uprightness in our dealings with others and also godly here refers to our love and reverence towards God it basically denotes holiness in the way we think act react in our attitudes in our nature in the way we walk in the way we talk so godly refers to our love and reverence towards God righteously has to do with living our life of integrity and uprightness not dealings with others and then he says and godly in this present age so living in a godly manner you know godly basically means living in a godly manner according to the word and the will of God living in total submission and surrender and obedience to the word of God to the will of God both in secret and in a public both in public and in private so that god can be glorified any question so far before we move on to verse 13 and we look at the third way that grace trains us any questions all of you with me okay I'll just suck on a loss and just so that my I don't cough and my throat gets clear the third way that grace trains us is grace trains us to live in godliness by looking ahead and behind was this 13 and the first half of verse 14 so was 13 says looking for the blessed hope and glorious reappearing of our God our great God and Savior Jesus Christ and the first half of verse 14 says who gave himself for us that he might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for himself his own special people zealous for good works so here we see the third way that grace trains us is grace trains us to live in godliness by looking ahead and behind so the forward look is you know is looking towards grace trains us to look towards the second coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ the backward look is is to basically look back at the cross and the implications on our own life so the forward look is looking ahead at the second coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the backward look is basically looking at the cross and what can be the implications in our lives so we look at the forward look first and then we look at the backward looks the forward look looking ahead to the blessed hope of Christ's second coming which is which he writes in verse 13 now you know God's grace instructs us to look for the blessed hope and the appearing of our glorious and our great God and our Savior Jesus Christ Christ first appearing yes was in grace it brought salvation to all of us it redeemed us from sin from satan and from death and brought us eternal hope eternal life brought us salvation and this was during his first coming but during his first coming his glory was you know wailed which means that we know through John chapter 17 that Jesus manifested the the sonship glory he did not manifest the glory that he had of God and that is why he says in in in John chapter 17 he tells his father now you know give me back the glory that I had even before the foundation of time because I finished the work I'm coming back to you so Jesus when he walked on the earth he did not manifest his glory of deity and glory of being God because if he manifested that you know we could not see him we could not experience a God in a tangible way we could not even you know know the father that was revealed to the son and of course we could not crucify him on the cross so Jesus laid aside his glory of deity of God and he took on their date the sonship glory and that is why we were able to you know touch him see him in a very tangible in a very real way but at his second coming second appearing we will see him in all of his glory and he will bring salvation to his people but he would terrify the people who have not believed in him with a terrifying judgment and so there'll be a terrifying judgment for those who have not believed in him and this you know second coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is our blessed hope where we will fully experience all of the blessings of his salvation even as we experience it in part just like I said a few classes back that when we are born again yes we receive eternal life even though it's a futuristic hope even if it's a eschatological hope somewhere a future hope that we have but it's a realized eschatology in the sense that we realize that eternal life that hope here and now so if our focus is set on Christ's return and the hope that he is going to return we will purify our life from every known sin as we read in 1 John chapter 3 verses 2 and 3 can someone read that please can someone please read 1 John chapter 3 verses 2 and 3 anyone can read 1 John chapter 3 verses beloved now we are children of God and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be but we know that when he is revealed he shall be like him for we shall we shall be like him for we shall see him as he is and everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself just as he is pure amen amen so it says here that you know thank you lubega it says here that you know even as we have this hope this return of Christ you know we will purify ourselves just like he is pure and holy so you know everyone is talking about the second coming of God there's so many youtube videos this is happening that is happening Christ is coming you know soon and all of those things and all of us are so anxious all of us are so worried and we're all thinking you know when is the day that he's coming the April 8th is going to be a solar eclipse and you know there's so many things that have been said and christians are like thinking that it's going to be it's the beginning of end of time and they're storing up food and all of those stuff and video saying don't do that it's not the truth you know but what should be our focus you know not just oh yes we need to discern the times we need to know the times we're living but that should lead us to a quickening in our inner man to share the gospel with those who are lost those who have not known the lord and savior because when he comes up they're terrifying judgment for them he's not coming till everyone has heard the gospel so it's our responsibility to do that and also it's our great responsibility to purify our life from every known sin because if we truly believe in the son of god if we truly believe what he's done on the cross for us then we should purify our life from every known sin so even as paul is writing this to tie this way back you know in for the early church it's so relevant for our time you know writing to born servants so relevant to us as employees we're talking about the grace of god so relevant to us and how we need to train ourselves to live in godliness by looking ahead and behind and how we need to how the grace of god you know helps us to live sensibly right justly and godly in this present age and the call of this time is not just to know when god is coming what are the signs to read about it and to keep on pondering about it and talking about it but to tell people that hey it's time to live sensibly you know sensibly means you know to exercise self-control it's time to live right justly it's time to live godly in this present age and it's also time you know that where we are purifying our lives from every known sin and every unknown sin which the holy spirit will also point out to us verse 14 can one of you read verse 14 please who gave him who gave himself for us that he might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for himself his own special people serious for good works speak these things exalt and rebuke with all authority let no one despise you amen thank you lubricant so here we see the forward look we saw was looking ahead at the coming of the lord and savior jesus christ and that is what grace trains us to do and also grace trains us to look back to look back at the demonstration of god's love on the cross by which he redeemed us from sin and made us his own possession says that you know who here who refers back to our great god and savior jesus christ who gave himself for us and so who is this who that gave himself for us this jesus and what is the gift that he gave us you know he gave us his he gave us himself so it says here who gave himself so himself is the gift that he has given us and who did he give himself for he gave himself up for us okay so the person for whom he gave himself up was for us so first christ gave himself for us so that he can redeem us from every lawless deed and we already know what's the meaning of redeem i've already explained that you know basically redeem is you know paul uses this word very beautifully here in this context because he has just finished talking to bond servants or bond slaves and you know redeem would have got the attention of these slaves because the word redeem is basically used to purchase out of a slave market or buy out of a slave market so so what does use of buying a slave out of a market so as to give him freedom so before we met christ so before we were in christ or before we were part of god's family we were all slaves of sin and christ purchased us out of that slave market of sin and set us free he paid the redemption price by you know shedding his own blood he freed us from bondage of sin then how can you know as believers we go back to being slaves of sin just like we studied in romans when paul talks so much about this you know when we has been set free when you know god has liberated us how can we you know continue living in sin because we are dead to sin the power of sin is broken over our lives we have the nature of god operating in and through our lives that's what we studied in romans so you know when we have been purchased out and free you know i'm sure a slave who's purchased as a slave market and free would not say i want to go back to the slave market he would never do that so how then you know can we as believers go back into the slavery of sin the second thing is christ gave himself up for us that he might purify for himself of people with his own to be his own special people so was 12 you know focus on our need to purify ourselves but was 14 focuses on christ purifying us through his blood we studied that it was 12 right where we need to purify ourselves from every known sin and so here in verse 14 you know the focus here is christ who purified us through his own blood he bought us from the slave market of sin he washed us from our sins and now we belong to him as his personal or his price possession we are his we are his sons and daughters we belong to the family of god we belong to the kingdom of god the third thing that grace trains us is grace trains us those trains those who are saved to be zealous for good deeds the latter part of verse 14 zealous is basically doing and promoting good works so these good deeds are done you know not because we want to get a place in heaven not because we want to earn our salvation we can't earn our salvation not because our sins will be covered nothing can cover our sins but the blood of Jesus and the forgiveness that we can claim in the blood of the Lamb in confessing our sins to Jesus but here good deeds refers to these that are done out of sincere love for God and others in obedience to his word so doing everything not out of compulsion but doing it out of sincere love for God and for others because we want to obey God because it is his will that we act in love that we do things in love that we react in love so if you've been bought out of the slave market of sin by the blood of our great god and savior then we should be zealous for good deeds and we ought to be totally devoted to our lord and savior Jesus Christ so three beautiful ways that grace trains us that we see in you know verses 13 and verse 14 any questions any questions okay if not we'll move on to the last verse in this chapter 2 verse 15 can one of you please read that please speak these things so exalt and rebuke with all authority let no one despise you amen thank you Loubega so Paul's words speak exalt and reproof now basically is indicating the different approaches that are needed with different people you know Paul is telling Titus that with some people all you need to do is you know just tell them a word and they'll get back on the right part for others you need to give strong exaltation and for others you know you need to convince them or convict them of that wrong but Paul is saying irrespective of where people are he's urging Titus to teach exalt and reproof you know what everything what he has shared with him you know in the last few verses or in the in his letter that he's writing to him now the word exalt in Greek basically means parakelio which means press in with much earnestness so you know as a minister you know and as people who are also preaching and teaching God's word you know we must not be cold and lifeless in the way we deliver God's doctrines as if they were just simple ordinary things but we need to you know or we must urge them with eagerness and with importance showing the importance the priority that should be given and the earnestness in which it needs to be taken on and dealt with and lived on so as preachers Paul is telling Titus that he must call people not to be only hearers of the word but also doers so that they may be blessed okay now this word exalt is also word that is related to a word used of the Holy Spirit uh you know hold the Holy Spirit is referred to as a parakeletos so the the word exalt is the Greek word is parakelio and Holy Spirit is also referred to as a parakeletos which means somebody who comes alongside us for our assistance somebody who comes alongside to assist us help us aid us counsel us encourage us teach us guide us reveal the truth to us so the thought of coming alongside someone what they're doing wrong to assist them you know back to doing what is right so this might be the you know the thought behind why he says exalt those who do not know the truth or those are not acting upon the truth he's telling Titus you need to come along them just like the Holy Spirit comes alongside us for assistance so that we assist them back into doing what is right and then he uses the word rebuke so some with some people you have to rebuke how who do you rebuke if somebody knows the truth and is not acting on the truth but acting against the truth you know you need to give them a rebuke or you attempt to bring them up to realize their position and the need for changing their position and the need for them to do the right thing it also uh you know relates to conviction uh bringing one to conviction with words and then he says with authority you know Paul had all the authority that he had in the church at that time but he's extending this authority to Titus as well and he's saying Titus use every bit of that authority and then he says let no one despise you so what Paul is telling Titus is let no one disregard you means let no one despise you Titus be such an example be that adorning a jewel piece a beautiful piece you know live such a life an example of godliness and good deeds what he has been mentioning in verses seven and eight that people will not be able to disregard your message or the truth of the doctrines or you know the exhortation or the rebuke or the correction the conviction that you're giving them they will not challenge that they will not disregard your message because they know that your life backs it up and so that's how he ends chapter two okay we are done with our time for the first class we'll take a break now and we'll come back and we'll begin with any questions if you have and then we'll move on to chapter three thank you everyone


One of the big challenges in climate communications for this work is that you you have to strike a balance between informing and advocacy, so when you inform on climate you have to bring a lot of bad news. When you want to advocate on solutions you have to bring good news. So right now in 2019 we have a really hopeful narrative that's coming together around exponential advances in renewable energy, in electric vehicles, in green bonds, in divestment, all kinds of things like that. We can really get a sense that the economic transition is on and I think everyone in this room probably would like to believe that and hope they will continue on the path. But if you're watching the oil and gas sector, which a lot of people in climate advocacy tend not to do, you may notice that there are some worrying signs. This fast growth in renewable energy has made big oil wake up to the fact that renewable energy is actually now a serious competitor, whereas a few years ago they were considered as sort of a minor irritant that nobody needed to bother about. So we need to pay attention to this and big oil is actually starting to step up. Here's a reminder, big tech is always making the right sounds about climate change. This was Satya Nadella from Microsoft at the point when in 2017, when Trump pulled out of the Paris Agreement and he says it's an urgent issue, we remain committed to doing our part. So this was an article in Gizmodo last month. I would urge you all to go out and look for it and read it very carefully. Google, Amazon and Microsoft since 2017 have been joining the oil and gas gold rush. And I was personally pretty shocked when I read this. So much for do no evil. This is kind of the last nail in the coffin, right? And they are cutting huge deals worth billions of dollars to use to basically the companies to help them apply AI to cutting production costs and becoming more competitive with renewable energy. So what if the financial sector could become a force for good? So here we have a recent headline in the Financial Times, which I found quite inspiring. I love this narrative. My managers are the new warriors of climate change. And I actually believe that we have a big gap in the information ecosystem on green and sustainable finance. And filling this gap will help to accelerate the rewiring of the global economy towards sustainable business. I think the potential of the financial sector to drive change is tremendous, especially given that advances in the policy sphere have run into some obstacles and in many places seem to be slowing down. Right now, a lot of people, there's just an understanding gap and an information gap. And there's no sort of transition interface with other communities. So for example, there's no wired magazine on green finance. We don't have an IPCC for the finance sector. So New Zealand is ideally placed, I think, to provide such an information clearinghouse. So who knows the conversation in the room, the website, the conversation? A few people. It is a non-profit media platform that was created in Australia in 2011. And its mission is to kind of get academic research out of journals and out to the general public through sort of journalistically written articles. And it's free.  This thing starting from Australia in Melbourne with kind of support from the RMIT has spread to seven countries, including the US, the UK, Indonesia, and it's growing quite fast. So I would love to see New Zealand to do something similar to help create an information clearinghouse on green finance, allowing it to spread and replicate across the world as this sector grows. So I'd like to invite you, please come and talk to me if you are curious, if you are interested, if you have a point of view. And this is an early stage idea of mine. And I would love to talk with some of you about like who needs it, what format should take, and how. So thank you very much.


Hey, how's everybody doing today? I'm your host Richard. We have rich to be live with many co-hosts with us today The bull and bear show episode number 11. How you guys all doing today? I'm doing fantastic. We got the more fabric here. We got blaze here We got King Earl here and Nash Cowboy here and very excited to have all of you guys back on the show and Last week was great to have you guys all there and the first topic this week is The deficit the US deficit hits 1.3 trillion rich strips the US of a triple a rating angering the White House Puzzling the White House everybody in the White House does not understand why the United States now has only a Double a plus rating instead of a triple a rating and we're gonna start with you mark and Maverick. What do you think about this? You think this is deserving do you think this is undeserving? Why is this happening in America? Oh? Man, you know They have a system of four years presidential reign and then re-elections and other four years if Biden gets reelected Personally, I'm gonna be blaming the Biden administration. I have nothing else to do by that because I'm on the sideline here in Canada Watching the media and I'm just picking and choosing between What's going on with Trump? What's going on with Biden or what's going on with my favorite candidate? Robert Kennedy who's related to JFK and I and he talks about some things that just blow my mind away So I don't know what's going on in the United States as much as our fellow hosts here Who are living in the United States? So I want to hear what they got to say about this Okay, perfect. Let's hear what you got to say King Earl. What do you what's your opinion on this? Does America just double a plus rating right now? Oh Yeah, I think that we might even just deserve an a-plus rating right now due to the Amount of economy that they have allowed to go on for so long trying to soft fall us delayed payments on debt them asking for 1.3 trillion dollar loans now they Just rose the number up to 1.3 trillion dollars for a loan for the third quarter for the deficit rather than the 776 billion dollars that they had due to Only bringing in like three point four trillion dollars in Assets and tax collections. So I mean, we're definitely due for a credit rating decrease I mean the buying power in the US is going down As long as the dollar doesn't go down right now, you know, we have a chance to fix it But you know the future is coming and it's starting to show its beautiful low I and they better get on with a program of digital currencies or Something changing rather than just fed now where they're trying to stick all their money at instead of our tax deficit So yeah, I think we're very becoming of a double a-plus At this moment due to Biden's administration Okay, what do you think cowboy? Does America deserve a double a-plus rating right now or is that too harsh? I Don't think it's harsh enough myself So There has to there has to be a long-term solution given right one our entitlement program And we need some kind of solution for it This is the spending problem that we have in this country is insane They're looking for that. They're looking for long-term solutions on On things like this. All right to bring down the deficit At least to bring it to a stable level, right? so that Just so that we don't just so that they don't look at us like we can't pay back our bills because I mean let's face it if I took out a loan on a $100,000 Corvette, right? Yeah, I can't get out of that loan by taking out another loan You know, it's common sense Just buys you more time be number one. We need to become energy-independent. That's that's the number one Before long, they're gonna take back the Corvette Unless you get another loan to pay it off and then stop rush Yeah, but you can only do what we can only do that so many times and our government says doing it over and over and over So here's my here's my theory on a Triple a I double a plus. It's not harshing up We got to stop borrowing the money before we can even pay it back. I get with it doing it just buying more time But it's just enabling us to keep on failing. So I agree with the rating. I'll make it short and sweet Okay, well, I appreciate everyone's opinion now one of the things that you know, I always look at is the debt level and Easy that the stock market is doing doing really really well and The crypto market's been doing really well Hosing is doing very well in both Canada and the United States Despite the fact that interest rates keep going up despite the fact that food prices keep going up despite the fact that Real estate keeps going up despite the fact that taxes keep going up despite the fact that gas prices keep going up Something has to give so when you have this much debt I think it makes sense that they bring the rating down a little bit to kind of say hey Listen, you can't just print money forever and think that that's gonna solve everything So I know out of your guys opinions there Listen, let's not forget that our currency isn't our currency. It's a foreign bank Mm-hmm So when they're when the printing money, it's a foreign bank for me. It's a corporation You know I'm saying yeah And our rand poking is pretty little head right now season old tankers driving old prices up from the OPEC trade So I mean there's only so much we can do without going to war with them But you know, it's not gonna be as aggressive yet. I tried to hold this back earlier I didn't want to say but I got to say it. I think the United States is trying to keep up with China But China honestly just overtook the United States in 2020 For the leading investments Coming into China from the world so I see a lot of things coming in the near future honestly I was watching a video about a a cold war that might happen between China and us because China's investments in Africa and Europe and brazil And all of these different continents is a direct threat to the financial stability of the u.s And now they're in a debt with the deficit barely got through the debt ceiling It's crazy. What's going on honestly, but it seems like it's super complex. That's for sure I always like to say the world's a stage. It's just a show Now this is what I have up right now This is actually a chart that was given to me by earl and it makes reference to the jobs And in some sense situations lack thereof or in some situations. There's many jobs So I just want to get your guys opinion on this and so if you look at this chart What it shows is that there's actually 9.8 million open jobs in the united states and only 5.9 million unemployed workers So there's more jobs than there is workers, but What do you think about this? What do you think about this? Do you think there's a lot of jobs right now? Do you think the job situation is good? You think the job situation is bad? Clearly the numbers are starting to get a little bit dicey and it's one of the reasons why the market had a tough week We'll start with you market maverick. What do you think about this? you know, uh It's hard to say how are they going to introduce new jobs through the electric vehicle company What are they going to do the energy grid solar? the only way I see to introduce more jobs and To not have a high unemployment rate Would be I mean Is that a high unemployment rate based on 350 million citizens living in the united states compared to canadas? less than 50 million Canada's having a fair Growth rate right now in unemployment. It's only it's only 5.4 And we're seeing increase in jobs and jobs are increasing as much as I hate to say it Uh part of the trudeau administration did something right But everything else wrong And now we're going to have some sort of coalition Who knows what's going to happen? But the unemployment rate in the united states Is hard for to really track the source because of the population size is just tremendous and I've never personally even Even seen populations in cities that big like california for example. That's the size of my country so It's hard to see what's going to happen in the future Hopefully trump can get in there And introduce new new new jobs in this economy Because I think he does have a plan. He did make the stock market explode and make me a lot of money So I like what he did and he's a businessman. So That's what i'm hoping for. Hopefully that will change things What do you think I think that it's I think that it shows a clear representation that there's more jobs out there than there are Unemployed people or at least people filing for unemployment Um and a lot of the people that are currently on unemployment aren't wanting to go to work there, right? I mean, you know, they might be millennials living in their mama's basement Not wanting to work nine to five or whatever is out there for a minimum wage or whatnot But it kind of does help with them sitting on their couch You know not working and taking these potential jobs It actually drives the wages up of the jobs that are out there because it causes uh You know capitalism as finest where we can actually have Uh competitive wages across the platform because you know Even those available jobs are going to have to go up and not offer incentives And different things to actually get the people to come, you know or change their hiring program if the Problem is them not being out there actually doing the hiring process So, I mean there's clear representation of what's currently going on and how many people are just Sitting there, but I mean it also goes to show that many people aren't working two jobs like they used to you know The grind isn't there, you know And a lot of them aren't wanting to do the hard working jobs that are there So, I mean, I'd like a better breakdown of what exactly those potential industries those jobs are in You know, and that's going to be my next step that i'm looking at Okay How about you cowboy? What do you think about this? One thing I like to touch on is something Maverick said there Is that it is hard to track unemployment rate in america and not just because of The amount of people is because We don't know how many people have run out of unemployment and are just sitting there um so I think our unemployment rate is a whole lot higher than what is on record Because you can only collect unemployment for so long Are you saying that the homeless people are not filling in the paperwork so they don't know how much They're yeah, like if I if I if I draw unemployment if I lose my job I draw unemployment. I can only get it for so long And then they cut it out Then i'm not on the unemployment number that they're counting So so basically in canada we have ceases Where they can count how many people are in the city Uh for you guys, i'm not sure who it is part of the fed but So they can't count how many homeless people because they can't find them They could be in a abandoned home somewhere in detroit or for example Yeah, there's So like you got to look more closely at how many people are in the work market All right or in the work course All right, that's a more accurate number rather than an unemployment number Because the unemployment numbers are very skewed even the workforce. I mean we've got a lot under the table jobs, but um I think there's to answer your question a little bit better rich There are tons of places hiring right now um It in my field in construction It's hard to find good workers like it just is um Either the drug addicts or they just don't want to work And they're not working here in canada. They're not worth the money and have their own businesses and they They demand more money, but they're not worth it. That's right. I hear that all the time You can't find good workers people they make a little bit of money Then they go on a bender like nobody's committed to actually working You know nine to five eight hours a day five days a week Like it's hard to find workers to put in 40 hours a week nowadays Which is mind-boggling because I grew up just that was normal You know and I see it even in my kids like they like the idea of working eight hour a day blows their mind Like I don't have time to work eight hours a day. How am I supposed to do that? I'm like, well How does everyone else do it? No one else has to do it. We couldn't wait to grow up enough these days the idea of working Eight hours a day is like impossible to them Well, you guys you you don't realize a social media don't Report how many people are working and making millions of dollars or tens of thousand monthly Yeah So a lot of people are shifting off to physical work into the use in their mouth like we're doing right now Um, those numbers can't be calculated probably because they're not all reported And then there's people that don't even qualify for half those jobs out there So both numbers are inaccurate. I never listen to those numbers But like nash said if I walk out my door here in florida his job office everywhere Everywhere the whole strip down here says now hiring all over the place Nobody wants to work because when you get a handout You invest it you score you work on social media. Yeah, boom It's over They're not going to get those numbers right until they figure how many people are actually working on social media That's like when the virus came in canada and the the government gave everybody $2,000 a month I swear to you. I did the research About 80 percent of the people that received funds, which was all of canada invested that money in the stock market Which explains that boom we had during that time This leads me to my next question. So we'll start with you mark and maverick Uh, canada unexpectedly sheds jobs in july So we actually lost jobs in july here in canada and the canadian bank is actually looking to pause rates Do you think we're going to pause rates in canada and does that mean that we're going to pause rates in america? We'll start with you mark and maverick. What do you think? Uh, personally if they're going to pause rates in canada they It would just hurt us In the long run and the near term, but if the united states, which I think would pause rates before canada even decided to do anything Because the central banks are connected uh the rate hikes in 2023 were 5 percent And 7.2 percent not not including variable rate discounts and the lenders uh, they don't even they don't even basically Have the money because of all the debt So the central banks are receiving it from who the fed the feds receiving the money from Or sorry, the central banks are giving the money to commercial banks and the money is holding its ground which seems To be really weird with everything that that is happening with china Leaving trade deals with us for saudi arabia or sorry saudi arabia leaving the us trade deals with china I don't know how long they're going to hold this ground for personally the fed raising hikes And bitcoin holding its ground Is a sign in itself showing that bitcoin is even more dominant because the valuation of bitcoin has relied On what's happening with the currency of the world reserve currency So I personally i'm looking at every aspect in every angle here And it's like 2008 Uh market with the housing market Where they just couldn't understand what's going to happen. This is very similar with currency Trying to understand it every day King girl, what do you think about this? Do you think there's going to be more rate hikes in america? Or are we seeing enough rate hikes? Do we stop here? Pro, no, but think you lost signal Oh, we may have uh, you may have froze, but i'm sure he'll come back.  What do you think nash? Do you think that we're going to have more rate hikes in america or have we seen enough rate hikes? uh I think we'll probably uh, I personally think i'll have more um That's that's just me. I think I think we're not headed to a good place Um hyper inflation. Yeah, we are in hyper inflation state right now I mean it cost You know the guess gasoline here just went up to 350 a gallon. All right. Well three four All right, that's a lot All over Sorry king erl was back, but I think he froze again erl are you I Still froze So, I mean Everything's going up and even in the construction world. We got to raise our rates constantly I mean to make up for things the cost of doing business is more It's not really in my opinion solving anything if I make If I make somebody gets paid 30 dollars an hour in construction uh right now And they're paying 350 for a gallon of gas or if they're making 50 dollars an hour next year But they're paying 20 dollars a gallon for gas. It's not it's not solving anything so I don't know It's it's a mess the country is being hyper inflated really fast and It's just it's not good inflation is okay All right, but at a slower rate We're being hyper inflated What do you think blaze Um I think we're gonna have a few more We've got ourself in a mock, you know with that double a plus and You know printing the money and just things are going back. It was since trump left the office. We've been going downhill, so yeah expect to see more until 2024 when we uh Can tell you who's going to be running the office and hopefully that corrects everything But every time in the united states when we have a big election like this, we always have something Go on. This is the worst I've ever seen in my whole life Earl yeah, we're gonna have more more more Earl can you hear us? Hey, Earl, can you hear us? Earl Can you hear us? Can you hear us? He's frozen again I'd love to probably try to fix that that's a no So I know that Earl's driver I'll give you the answer for king earl. He's probably gonna say the same thing. Yes. They're gonna do it They're gonna do what? They're gonna increase the rates again. They're gonna increase the rates. Absolutely Sorry, I was reading something about trump. I thought you were talking about him No So we're just let's say let's face it the more they increase rates the more The less the people are going to get loans Period This week in the stock market the stock market fell and one of the major reasons was because they did lower the u.s Rating and the stock market been on fire But one of the other reasons why the stock market fell is that there is a strong but slowing u.s labor market So the strong u.s labor market is starting to slow We're starting to see the same thing in canada you guys just mentioned that there's lots of jobs But it's starting to slow Do you think that we are going into recession? I'd love to know what you guys think about this Do you think we're going into recession? What do you guys think we'll start with you market maverick? Earl. Are you there? Can you hear us? Yes? Oh, there you are Let's let's get Earl's Did you hear the last question? Yeah, I can hear you Earl Uh, okay. You can hear me now. Awesome. Uh, as far as the rate hikes I do think that the u.s will continue to have some but I don't think we'll have but one more this year Especially with the 1.3 trillion dollar loan going out our request going out It's going to over stimulate or not over stimulate but over inflate the market again even though we're trying to Go below it so it's going to rise the numbers a little bit But it's going to help continue to drive us into recession A little bit, but you know just as they said it's going to be a fully employed recession this time Rather than all the job losses as of right now As far as Canada losing its jobs You're looking at the fact that there's huge forest fires that were going on so a lot of businesses might have closed their doors you know due to that and Potentially, you know where their home is being lost or mobile transport They had to shut down and take their money from what they had, you know, so It's kind of hard to judge a market and how it's doing when there's natural devastations going on correct Okay, so i'm going to start now. I'm going to start with you market maverick. Will there be a recession Are we going to see a recession everybody expected a recession in 2023 that hasn't happened Will we see a recession in the second half of 2023 or will we see a recession in 2024 or 2025? I know that people are getting tightened But we haven't seen a recession the stock market hasn't crashed crypto hasn't crashed housing market hasn't crashed So that's not a recession typically in a recession You're going to see the housing market crash or the stock market crash cryptos crash, but they've all done well So are we going to see a recession here in the second half of 2023? Are we going to see a recession in 2024 2025? Are people finally going to start really not being able to pay their bills? Are people running out of savings? What do you think market maverick? You know what rich um It's unbelievable to see that 60 percent Of probability for a recession in this year Yes, I believe that it's going to happen. I believe we're already almost there And that's probably why to those wife left him unfortunately I hate to be so And rude and heartless she's hanging around with tom brady's wife right now Is she? Wow He also got screwed over in ftx. Those guys got destroyed by covid in the last Year ftx destroyed got destroyed It destroyed tom brady's investment in ftx And to those divorce Now they're hanging out together, which is really funny. But yeah, I think a recession is basically here But I also believe strongly That They also plan for this and that's why if you go to cbdc tracker dot org You will see every single central bank digital currency on this planet And what is that? Well, if you go on google you type in us cbdc or canadian cbdc Is specifically says us digital dollar or canadian digital dollar So why do they need these new technologies? If they don't already know there's a possibility of a recession and a Possible decline in the value of the world reserve currency or the canadian currency for that matter because Once they start climbing like this when they have no reason to I get worried King girl, were we are we gonna have a recession? Is I believe we might I believe we might have a slight recession Um, like I said, there's going to be plenty of people employed, but I mean those numbers will drop um But there's more jobs out there than there are unemployed at this point So some of those people might slide it into those jobs um, but with fuel prices continuing to go up. I view it's going to be harder for uh People to actually you know afford the products that they want You know that our economy is currently swapping from goods to services Um, you know, but it's going to have to swap back over to goods So, I mean, I think they might be switching a little bit too early You know and getting more relaxed with the economy and comfortable with what they have but You know, the stimulus money has already run out a long time ago um, we can't afford anymore And uh, we'll see I have to see where things go from here I mean, we might definitely fill it more during the winter when there's not as much food being produced And uh, trucking is already down due to rates. I mean 500 1000 Truck drivers have quit trucking in the past 14 months 50 000 trucking companies have closed their doors here in the us Meanwhile fuel rates have continued to skyrocket And the rates that truck drivers are paid have continued to go down. I mean, we're down to Down 75 of what we were making just last year So, I mean, we're already filling it on our way in and meanwhile prices of goods just continue to Gradually and slowly go up along with the commodities and we'll have to see when the rest of the us economy continues to fill it Besides the fed only worrying about how the banks fill about the rate hikes and how the banks are going to fare So we'll see Okay, nash cowboy. What do you think we're gonna have a recession? um, I believe There was two consecutive quarters where the gdp fell, right? And the white house was asked why why aren't you telling everybody we're in a recession not right now But uh, their answer was we're not and somebody brought that up and then they're like that's not the definition of a recession But that's obviously the definition of a recession Um, so I think we've already had Um, do I think we're gonna fall more into one? Absolutely. I do. I think we're gonna be touching Some whole new levels of things because we've never been in the position we're in right now except for you know the Great Depression Yeah, maybe the last time was maybe around 2007 2008 during the housing crisis Yeah, the last time that we really felt squeezed like this But I know people are getting squeezed right people like everything was costing more here in canada Like the gas prices are the all-time high here in vancouver food prices all-time highs And people don't really understand like I know truto definitely doesn't get it He doesn't understand that when gas prices are higher and the cost of fuel is higher That means those truckers are paying more to transport food That's why the prices of food is going up. He doesn't get it. He's a drama teacher. What do you think ladies? We're gonna have a recession. Um According to the definition of recession, especially when you just repeated it a little while ago Business ain't going bad the stock looked great. What 13 14 weeks in a row Yeah We're more than midway through the year if it was going to happen it would have happened maybe in march Um, absolutely not because there's going to be a new president in the united states soon The entity is rolling in big big coins going to have in the head of the year Um people are shifting their interest Right and their profits Into investing. This is the new thing coming guys So get used to it people that used to work with their hands every day I'm gonna be using their hands a little different Okay, so we're gonna change topics now. We're gonna talk about trump and this is all over the news This is the most polarizing ex-president ever And honestly america's never been the same since he lost to biden So There's a new indictment. There's new charges on trump. It feels like every day. There's charges coming at this man um Trump supporters view the latest indictment as evidence of a crime Do you think the crime against trump? That's my next question Do you think this is actually a crime against trump? Not a crime that trump is it has had But actually a crime that is now like they're going after trump so much that is it a crime? What they're doing to trump will start with you mark the matter You know, excuse me if i sneeze here uh trump Yesterday pleaded not guilty to charges of over plotting the 2020 elections um Which i personally don't Agree with any of these charges Because I remember in 2020 they were saying Russia might have interfered in elections and now they're saying trump this and that I I really I find it like that. They're just trying to point some fingers here in order to ruin his whole 2024 election campaign and give him some bad news and bad Bad sight in the the eyes of the public. That's what I think this is a propaganda Machine doing its best work here through all the major headlines and as trump is even running for president last year Or even now when his company talks about how fake The mainstream news is and that's why The people watching at home you guys got to support these channels these type of things that we're doing for you guys here We really go out of our way to do the research and and give you guys the best opinions possible Look at us five of us guys here trying to give you guys the best Information on the whole clear net so And hopefully against your support guys guys here I don't I don't agree with anything that they're doing the trump myself and market maverick are in canada Earl Nash cowboy and blazer all in america. We're in canada. So we got all of north america covered here It's pretty cool. I really like doing these shows and I really enjoy it now king earl. I know you're driving Did you freeze again? You might have froze. I think you did He needs uh, there you are Earl earl, you need it. You need to get the starlink satellite Just drive safe the most of $99 a month the most important thing is that you get to your destination safe We'll get to your questioning when you're when the thing about king earl is he's living proof what truck drivers go to and he's on this show Yeah When he tells me how much he pays for fuel it blows my mind Exactly. So those I never heard the numbers Over a thousand dollars to philipus tank Just once and how far does he go? Well, he has a huge truck, but it cost like a thousand dollars to philipus tank It probably gets like seven miles to the gallon All right, which there's 2.3 liters in a gallon. I think for something good So it's not much so he's got fill up counts like Ben diesels car.  What do you think do you think there's a crime against trump? Yes, but with that being said Um this last one the conspiracy on election Um, that may actually be in trump's favor now hear me out Trump and trump has been trying to get the whole thing to court to begin with. All right Now now that he has to go to court for it. He has the right to call subpoena zam All right, which means he has the right to subpoena every single ballot Person there is if he wants to and prove that there was no they will have to prove that there was no election fraud They'll have to prove why there was A million votes at three o'clock in the morning, you know, they'll have to prove all kinds of things So that circumstance may actually be a good thing. All right But there's it there's all kinds of other things. All right The fbi releases that hunter's laptop is not a conspiracy and that it's there Trump gets indicted. All right Uh, Joe biden starts getting investigated another indictment Hunter has to go to court over some pretty serious stuff hunter gets a slap on the hand But chump gets indicted Uh archer sheds light on the 5.2 million dollars that the biden received another indictment To me, it's all smoke and mirrors to shed light away from The crime that's really going on Uh with the biden's Yes, absolutely. You don't want to take any accountability, but they want to continue to throw trouble at the bus I must not forget that they've they've tried to shut chump down from the day he stepped in office All right, why because he has a lot of dirt on him um, and so I think it is a crime and when all this is said and done And also let's not forget in this country you're innocent until proven guilty They're already treating him as guilty All right, and they've done that since he got in office every time they tried to impeach him or anything They they they made the public believe that he was guilty before And that's just not the case He's loved him wrong twice before I think he'll prove him wrong again, and I think this last one they messed up by indicting him on the No, a conspiracy on election pro No, they're only doing guys. They're only doing this to publicize Okay, this is gonna better picture all the people out there That um, are watching all this news about trump all his supporters are multiplying. He's smashing disanthes right now in numbers So it's only making him stronger And the key thing is to get in office because he can pardon himself from everything that's going on So it's a win-win for him and even if he don't there's other people that that said if they get in office They are going to pardon him too So right now it is set up for history repeat itself trump biden back to trump. That's it I'm gonna leave it at that. That's what I think too. That's funny. He said that girl. Can you hear us? Yes, but Yes, I can sort of interrupt you. Um The simpsons showing trump in a coffin Uh, the media hating on trump throughout his whole Eight years that we've seen this guy on tv in the spotlight at the same time Is he part of the club these bankers and the elites and Is he sitting at the table with jp morgan goldman sacks or is he not? No, he's so that's why they don't like this guy. Hey, I always wondered He against you was sitting with them then he wouldn't know what he's doing right? He's he's he's essentially he's outing all of them Right, so they're very Trump is bigger than uh, they're very concerned about trump because they can't control the guy So they want to destroy his image. It's similar to a narcissistic move from basically a covert narcissist And that's what the media is doing to trump. They're just Doing everything they can to hurt the guy's image Even I like the guy and I live in canada so thank god for social media And and these new these new social media platforms Policies where we can actually see things on tiktok that we don't get to see on instagram or youtube That's what I've noticed as well But that's why we're trying to get rid of tiktok king earl you That's why they're trying to ban tiktok because Tiktok is showing us all the stuff that they don't want us to see did earl freeze up again Yeah, you might want to shift the rotation. So if earl gets back on let him go first Okay, yeah, yeah I just love the man with a plan If there's been a crime against trump jump back on that's all I do all day is run beams There run beams. What do you mean? Crime after crime again on the app. I'm on we sitting You should go on the app with us Live me. I made an account. I made an account. I think I'm your friend on there By just I never open it. I get all these notifications from it. It's like We can turn like People that break you'll see you'll see rich nash me earl Um, chris a lot of people you're gonna. You'll love it, but they're advertising right now I'm sending you a link. I think you got to put this on the screen. I believe you have to It's something I just stumbled on but it's amazing All right, no problem, you got to keep hammering these because I got a whole bunch more here So, um, we only have 19 minutes. We're running a little bit at a time. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna jump to the next topic Because I think we talked about trump for a while. So let's go to the next topic here And I know it's a topic you guys all like so let's just talk about this shiba inu Um, I know all of you guys on here all believe in shiba inu So I want to get your guys opinion on this shiba inu is bouncing right now It's having a really really good day. Uh, oh wait, there's earl earl. You're back Earl can you hear us? Earl can you hear us? I can see you No Earl Can you speak? Yes Earl so is there is there a crime against trump right now? Love to know your opinion Uh, I would say no, um, uh, oh crime against trump probably Uh, very massively You know as far as spying on a sitting president or a u.s. citizen without the proper, yeah Without the proper documentations to do it through the fiker court. I mean that's already a violation as it is but uh You know as currently he's not committing any crimes if nor has committed any crime They're far stretching on any indictments. They've brought against him before the january 6th Or the refusing to push through Um, the power Trade fair trade of power But then also, I mean the closest thing they have is the uh documents which is protected by the us presidential act You know, so they can't really get him for anything. They're just trying to throw everything out there But all they're doing is keeping his name in the media And uh, god bless him for giving free media coverage to the man himself Yep, and earl since you're here and you haven't frozen yet. I want to ask you the next question Shiba Inu give me your opinion on what's going on with shiba inu earl Oh, did we lose him? I think he didn't realize I was asking him another question. So King earl, can you hear me? Okay, we'll go to you mark and maverick shiba inu is making a move. What do you think is going on here with shiba inu? Uh, you know what man looking at the 13 percent really doesn't blow my mind But looking at the 24 hour volume 270 percent Is mind-blowing at the same time? I think shiba inu is gearing up for uh, shibarri and prutch Go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I think uh Yep Go ahead, eril There he goes again. It's all right. We can do a collaboration. Binance approves shiba inu as collateral asset On their platform at the same time Uh spike in five percent as soon as the news comes out and um What was I reading here? Shiba inu takes a step to become DeFi contender and will add digital IDs to its ecosystem. So shiba inu is Really turning out to be a good project. Good job on that one blaze I know you hold a lot of those shiba inu coins, man I don't I got to get some of those man. I just literally put some money in the dip in xdc And I need to buy more I should be doing that right now, but I got to go to a wedding. I think I'm going to find a window and buy some more xdc Yeah, good job on that man eril What do you think about shiba inu? I think it's awesome preparation for shibarri and project to be released. I mean bones have been pumping You know double digits. Uh shiba inu is finally pumping up some double digits Today and then leash is getting fully marketed eyes. The entire shib economy Our ecosystem is finally being released. So We shall finally see what the project is capable of um, and how much Utility actually has once it's in this project is complete Um, I look forward to seeing us during the next all coin season.  Yes, I do Okay, great. Oh, yeah, that's cowboy. What do you think? I know you're a fan of shiba inu. You hold it, right? Yeah, yeah, I've got I've got I'm a single data six, so I have an invested a ton like some of these guys can't but I got like I'm just under 100 million of them So I should stand to make a pretty good profit in the next bull market on them But I'll probably do a little trading back and forth along the way to that That era um So, yeah, I think eril's right. I think uh, it's preparation for the shibarium lease or release um And I think only good things they're gonna come from this point on at least For quite some time in the shiba inu ecosystem absolutely They got a lot going on they got a they got a huge army following them too Like they have a huge community. There's no doubt about it. You know one of those guys in the community is blaze blaze What do you think about shiba inu? Okay, so a simple fact right shibarium Binance news. Yeah, that's all great. But uh, we're near in the end of summer. That's even greater This what happens all the time. So all this I based my My gut off of the time of year. I'm sorry guys, you know, all that news is fun, right? But um, I'm in a big group that I watch and I analyze all the time people are starting to shift some of the money back into shiba Getting ready Hopefully for this big bull run with this shibarium and the binance news and several other things That I really don't want to discuss right now because I'm not sure of So, um, but yeah shiba thumbs up, baby, you know, can I just make a point out there? Remember rich I was telling you about my theory About I don't think it matters how much coins are in circulation in the crypto market We've been looking at it Similar to the stock market security and representing that with the knowledge We know of this and taking it to the cryptos But I don't think it's like that because shiba inu holding 589 trillion coins in circulation While it's up 15 percent I can't explain that it doesn't matter about coin supply because if you shave off a couple zero So if we shorten the the number of three zero zero a millionaire I mean at the end of the day you want to see $60,000 token or do you see want to see a token worth one penny? So I mean it depends You know, it's for the people that can afford the big big stuff that are trying to get to the big stuff The end game is always going to be bitcoin Yeah, my boy, you are deep warning I'm going to switch topics. I don't need to talk about shiba inu for hours with this group Oh, yeah, we but I want to keep going So the next topic I want to go really quickly because we don't have much time left. We got like 10 13 minutes left. So the next topic is Lionel Messi, and I know none of you guys are really huge soccer fans, but it's a business conversation Lionel Messi has gone to Miami And completely turned things around The team went from being a lot of these teams to now They haven't lost the game since messy join their Number one in shirt sales in the mls and in the first 25 hours or 24 hours that messy was An inter miami FC mls player. They sold 2.5 million jerseys My question to you guys is Are you going to go and try to watch messy play in miami because I'm making plans We've talked. I've been talking to chris about it all week He's going to find out what it's going to cost to go to watch messy play If I can I'm going to fly into america go to miami and spend thousands of dollars probably to go watch messy play Would any of you guys be interested in watching messy play? We'll start with you Mark and maverick. Oh, definitely Definitely I would love you to come with me to go watch him play. In fact, I honestly I live I can get in a plate and be there within about five hours. Maybe six hours. I'm sure and I think it would definitely be worth it miami. It's lebron james messy I can watch a basketball game. I can watch a soccer game I can go straight to mexico have a small weekly vacation and go right back home And I I'm loving the fact. I need rinaldo to come here. In fact, he just signed the deal with saudi arabia. So These guys are very evenly matched. I can't even find that's on these guys because they're so Evenly messy has done for what what messy has done for the mls is massive He's put the mls major league soccer in america on the map And rinaldo's equally doing the same thing in saudi arabia. So want to know what you think king earl Would you ever go and watch messy play king earl? Can you hear us? Yes, I think it's great I don't think I would ever go to the game and I might come have a beer with you But you know, the soccer just don't you know impress me But you know You don't want to go watch the greatest player of all time just to go I mean, I'm just not that big into you know, sports that awful much, you know I I like to watch a little bit of college football every now and then maybe a little bit of baseball, but As that, you know, I'm more, you know down to earth and worried about what's going on You know financially in the world and politically within the world and scientifically within the world to be worried about You know an alpha male contest or group contest like that, but you know You know social gatherings are great. It's a great place to spend time and you know if he brings another Culture to america and continues to drive up our markets You know and people are going to sponsor Him and might bring more sponsorships to miami and you never know, you know Miami coin might be doing a huge investment in him if he can keep it up All right, nash cowboy. What do you think? Is this something you'd ever want to go and do? Um, well, you know me man. I only the only sport I really watch is MMA usually and I'm missing out on a fight right now actually Uh, but it's a boxing match The uh Love you So I'm missing out on that but um The only reason I would go Is if y'all were there and I'd just come to party with y'all, you know Um, well, that's what we got to do guys. Even if we just go hang out and go watch a game just for Now what's your designation to me? Now what y'all got to be interested in is through the sports come to nashville Let me show you the time of your life Guys All right my turn Please I need to see nascar formula one rally I need to see this. I got all that here in Daytona.  I was never a soccer fan until I became your friend and I learned about the sports and I watched how much You enjoy watching your super side sun out there um, and if I had the time I have everything else but if I had the time absolutely Because it was a great move right business wise to take him here because when tampa Brought tom brady to the worst team. They won the super bowl Big economy boost great move by miami economy booster already making money for florida Yo florida strong, baby. That's why i'm here Calgary, alberta.  They're doing the shoveling And the whole city stinks guys. It's unbelievable He came to miami because florida is making all the right moves. They you know that They're the basketball team made it to the finals that harky team did The baseball team's killing it. So let's put soccer on the map, you know, i'm telling you All right guys, so my next question. I don't know if you guys know this but there's a streamer in america He's a very big streamer. His name is kai senate. He's got millions and millions of followers And he likes to do pranks and different streaming live streaming And he's making like literally hundreds of millions of dollars with twitch and rumble He wanted to do a live giveaway in new york city yesterday and he literally shut it down Union square was shut down and he got charged because he was trying to give away 300 ps5s The police had to fly in with helicopters because thousands of people were mobbing union square in new york city What do you think about this? Do you think an influencer should be able to just give away 300 ps3s? PS5s do you think it's you know a mistake to be doing that because he created so much chaos What do you think about this? We'll start with you mark the maverick.  No, obviously not But what happened if I want to but that's what happened like it was let's see it I never really seen a video or anything like that Yeah, it was all over the news yesterday. Like here's like a picture of it. You can see the picture Like it's pretty bad Yeah, it turned into a war zone. Oh, wow. Yeah, I wouldn't Do anything or associate anything to doing that Uh to anybody anything that causes harm to somebody So I'm gonna get the plane out of here Anything that causes harm to somebody is Definitely not in the book or anybody that's on this channel for sure King girl, what do you think I say, you know if you're gonna be doing a giveaway such thing is that I mean, you're gonna have to follow for the proper permits number one Especially in a liberal city like that and that and maybe maybe hire some security I mean, you may maybe not take it at a freaking time square where they have, you know, it's a basic day parade Number two, take it to, you know, roll town usa, you know, if you're gonna be doing it, but you know It just It's a show of faith, but with the whole tiktok thing going on It just doesn't help us streamers or us Uh social media stars Look any better when we're causing chaos and riots I mean, you know Maybe he should be, you know sued for inciting riots on uh, August the second and potentially, you know, he put his presidential ballot in You know, and he could face criminal charges too for trying to stop a presidential election, you know That's that's Possible That's very possible With camila heron And Mike all these guys Uh, who knows what can happen anybody can get charged. I can get charged My social score in china right now just crossing the street because of true those policies with Their trade deals. Who knows what's happening in social media world? I don't think he I don't know what his chart and what she said his charging were but I don't think he expected that to happen There are a thousand dollars a piece that's 300 grand and so what you have to assume that it's going to get And not like riots though. Um, I don't think I don't think he intentionally did anything Uh, I think we live in a world where as long as you have a large group of people in one place Crazy things can happen, right? I mean Thousands of people showed up thousands of people if i'm going to feed the homeless, it's not my fault if The homeless or somebody gets robbed. That's different. That's different I it doesn't it's still the same the same concept if i'm going to give something to somebody It's not my fault if some other idiot decides to start Um So Our freedom Do you think you should have been arrested? I did not think you should have been arrested not at all. Okay. Um All right, we have freedom of speech in this in this country. We have freedom of You know press freedom of everything freedom press freedom To broadcast we have freedom To give anything to anyone if we want As long as it's a legal product However, my theory all the companies that broadcast like five my turn boys Um blame my theory. What do you think about it? 350 000 items and you're talking to teenagers kids That's what was there.  Okay We all know that okay number one. You cannot be bigger than a lot number two If you're gonna be a social media style you need to be responsible like we are we tell everybody to do their studying and everything, right? So therefore he did not look He did not call the the local authorities and let them know there was an event going to be happening worth over 300 000 So therefore Yes, he makes a money and did it for content which he's going to take up on I think every dollar that he makes off this content From this side issue Go to the city of new york to clean up that mess Okay, guys last question before we say goodbye to everyone we got two minutes left I want everyone to be really quick here Prime minister truto, this is his wife Now his ex-wife What do you guys think about the fact that prime minister truto in canada is getting divorced? What do you think mark and maverick? You know, I want to make this short and sweet. I don't know I don't think we have much time here, but I just want to say She locked them Not because of what he did But because what he's going to do Okay, so she's she knows Something and she's getting out of the way necessarily. I can't point my finger and say exactly those words And I'm not saying anything uh Exactly a hundred percent sure I'm just stating What I believe is She left him because of something not because of what he's doing but because of what he's going to do She's just not satisfied similar to the the citizens of canada We are not satisfied and that Happening then should be a sign That well, I mean if she's allowed to divorce him. Why can't all of us canadians divorce him? Can't you know, what do you think about this? Good point? I think she I think she saw the writing on the wall She couldn't stack up to compete You know in an arm wrestling competition with michelle obama or kamala harris And she just had to step down and back away And you know, she might have a little bit of foresight that you know, her husband might be a little You know and might be having a farious affairs, you know in other places um, but you know Things might be hidden, you know from the light and uh, you know, let's go canada Let's go canada. Okay. That's cowboy. What do you think?  You know Before we say goodbye guys been over now Okay, so 10 million to 400 million she gets a cut she gets out cleans her names up tells everybody in canada I got nothing to do with this She's afraid for her life and she wants to make a few bucks.  She's done Uh kudos to her. She's the first canadian that stepped up to him My my answer to this is it seems very familiar to what happened with tom brady Tom brady goes and gets divorced right before the ftx scandal and bill Maybe she knows that some dirtiness is coming out And she's getting out of the way like mark and maverick said before the bomb dropped and bill gates just and bill and Guys is the same thing She's telling her canadian fellows that i'm the first one to make a stand against him and step up to him now all you guys also That's right. I love it guys. Thank you for joining us the bull and bear show episode number 11 My co-host nash cowboy blaze mark and maverick king earl. Have a great weekend everybody Thank you guys for joining Always a pleasure guys great show and we'll see you guys next week. Stay tuned guys. I'll be going live right now on my channel Stay tuned awesome. I'll see you there bro Okay