All right folks welcome on back here this Tuesday June 22nd shortly after 2 30 p.m. Eastern time welcome on back Of course for our afternoon meeting it feels good to be back I was actually off on the social feeds yesterday great to see all of us on Facebook live and YouTube of course with that in mind Great to see all of our students Norman Pat Leda Wendy Peter Tim Sharon all of us inside the cyber group room welcome on back So I wasn't able to get this stream up yesterday afternoon afternoon all of a sudden I think what happened was I ended up deleting my internet browsing history the cookies the cash and I ended up deleting my stream yard password How about that? So I apologize for all of us joining us on social media But I have to begin today with what I wanted to begin with yesterday before I so rudely found out I wasn't able to do the meeting for us here in the afternoon So as we all know at this point we ended up seeing Bitcoin get Yesterday and then heading into the morning so typically when I have the chance here in the afternoons I like to pull up the Bitcoin chart for any of our crypto followers But not only for you folks there But for anyone that tends to follow the blockchain Bitcoin mining affiliated stocks You know the riots the maras the cannons and all of those that we've called out over the last many months So you know I always like to show these few charts here the 15 the hourly and then we'll jump to the daily in a bit But just across the last day and a half two days You could see the big drop-off breaking down below 33 support from the last few days And then eventually just lower and lower going into this morning. It was on the way down to 30 So you knew that it was gonna break down below 30,000 today I mean I think the absolute bottom from what like a month ago or three weeks ago at this point was exactly at 30 flats So with the way it was dropping you knew it was just gonna break lower the question is to what extent? So here's what I want to show you obviously you've seen the squeeze back up more So heading into the late morning the early afternoon here, and it's still going So we'll go to the riots and the maras all of these other equities that follow Bitcoin in just a bit Let's go to the daily chart first actually we'll go to the daily. Let's actually hop around with some moving averages I should have had this up just before I started so I apologize for that in advance But let's see if I could bring this up. Is this thing gonna be annoying to me here.  Let's see if I can get this long story short. What I want to show you folks here is the 500 EMA I have a few moving averages up on my chart. Let's see if it's gonna play nice to me here today. Ah It's not gonna damn. All right. So what I want to show is the 500 EMA and when I do these Bitcoin reviews and analysis I always tend to show the EMAs that I have up at the time I tend to have a 50 100 200 and then a 500 the 500 EMA it was essentially right here off of like 30 29 3 I think it was the absolute bottom point being today on the daily chart You could see Bitcoin breaking lower But if you can imagine the 500 EMA here folks is being troublesome to me just before but ended up essentially Holding right over that major EMA that moving average and with that We've seen Bitcoin begin to squeeze back up going into the late morning the early afternoon like I'd said So we'll keep track of this of course throughout the week I am not here to give you predictions as far as what it will do going into tomorrow going into the next day I tried doing that about about a month and a half two months ago and for as much as it dropped It definitely dropped a little bit more than I had thought it would so that's not what I'm here to do I'm here to provide my own thoughts as far as the short-term move as far as what could happen going into the next couple hours Not to say the next couple days We know it's gonna be a long while before this starts going back up to 45,000 50,000 And if it's sooner than what I think it would be then great whatever but for right now at least as far as today This afternoon Tuesday, let's jump to the Maras out there the riots You could see essentially the same type of move So where Mara ended up bottoming out right off of 2450 at the same time as Bitcoin squeezed off that 500 EMA we ended up seeing Mara make the same move riot breaking new highs right now I gotta say a stock that I've been interested in from the morning because Bitcoin was down and this stock was on the loser's list Canon We're familiar with Canon How come Canon is not making the same exact type of move as riot or Mara here now I can't give you that exact answer Maybe market makers are holding it back accumulating shares knowing that they could just make it explode and pop Perhaps even as early as this afternoon perhaps tomorrow morning. We'll find out. I like these stocks so far going into the afternoon Unfortunately, though This is the part of the meeting where I'll tell you that for as much as we see riot and Mara Trending up at this time of the day Well, how often do they really end up making that big final breakout into the close for other stocks? We often cheerlead that and we often hope to see that happen with riot and Mara Unfortunately history has proven with these stocks, you know at the highs of the day regardless of percentage up or down You know, this is down point five seven percent regardless of that Typically when we see these stocks at or near the highs they have rarely if ever it'll have ever at all Continued pushing up it just as beautifully into the glows We'll see what happens at least with this afternoon with Bitcoin dropping off as much as it has at least across the last 24 hours So we'll put all three on our list for right now just in hopes of continuation riot Mara And then the one I'm really more interested in is this Canon this thing's been holding under eight all throughout the Afternoon, I'm really throughout the day these false breakouts I jumped in on Canon here off of eight ended up going scratch because it just didn't give me what I wanted at the time and You know what? Hey, if we happen to see big continuation into the close watch out for that eight level on the Canon trade All right, so without further ado. I got here from the trading room Michael D saying the few times I traded Canon it did not seem to follow Bitcoin as much as riot and Mara did well They're all Bitcoin miners so riot and Mara have proven themselves Michael to have correlated better with Bitcoin not just today But you know just across the last few weeks the last month, but with the setup we have here on Canon I just got filled you can actually just see that right there. I just got filled on a trade So I was going to say I'm so interested in this trade. I had my order set. I'm actually filled right now I got filled right off of eight. We're gonna see what happens at least going into this afternoon We'll come back to this obviously going into the end of this meeting given that I just got in I'm gonna set my stop right now at least in case it shakes down while I go through the rest of the gainers and losers list I'll come back to it either way So normally I would have started this meeting off aside from all of the Bitcoin hysteria since I wasn't on the social streams yesterday I would have started off otherwise with this ALF So as you can see on the daily chart ALF already breaking over the highs back from last week And then only continuing to push up early on this morning So for all of us in social media Facebook live YouTube that are looking to wonder like why is this stock up 68% today? And why is it up so much the past week or so? Essentially the news that came out this morning was right around 8 30 Eastern Time ALF announced a two million dollar buyback They told Benzinga specifically our commitment to a tight float and a retail base is Unwavering the CEO calls its stock undervalued based on pipeline projections and identified opportunity All right That's the headlines out the two the two million dollar buyback is the real headline as to why this stock popped after 8 a.m Eastern Time but you know long story short no pun intended when you happen to see a stock breaking all-time highs like this There's no historical ceiling. There's no past data to work off of this is the dream This is the absolute dream that you would hope to have happened for a stock that breaks all-time highs like this The absolute roof was blown off So as you could see after the market opened up it actually moved up to 10 at first then shook back down when this ended up re-breaking above 10 That was it that was a wrap I mean, I'm talking right here off this bigger pop which led to this just really exploding right so to see this Stock make the type of run that it made even from 10 moving all the way up throughout the course the morning into the afternoon topping off Essentially right under 15 It still has some plate to it But again for as much as it moved up not just today, but from Monday from Friday last week when it was five five bucks six bucks When is this not going to begin to pull back? That's the question that we always have to ask and at any instance Especially the more and more a stock continues to move up and pop like we've seen here So, you know, I can come back to this and put this on our list at the end If we really happen to see more signs of life a higher low being built perhaps off 13 here So we'll come back to this at the end just to see where it's at But my heart tells me it's likely to more slip off going into the close. So we'll see All right, so I wanted to go over those pretty much just to begin as Tradition now what we'll do is really go from top to bottom I got a couple of warrants here to start the gainers list So typically those I just skip over I don't know what this is NSPRZ trying to try saying that three times fast. Yeah stocks 21 cents It's doing nothing right now. So we're gonna pass on this really a bunch of like unfamiliar stocks and tickers that are near the top of the Gainers list, you know for doing this six and a half to seven years. That's not really that good of a sign There are always stocks that make these big moves and pops and drops and I know you try and follow it after of Course just like wish but otherwise I like to be more tied to the ones I've seen on the gainers side before this ID RA I've seen before not just you know from today But obviously just look back on the daily chart stock took a huge hit going back into late March gap down from essentially five all the Way down to two continued dumping off after that point. So we took a rise off it after the big gap But you know to see the stock squeeze up at this time of the day I Really hope to see continuation, right? That's what we were just talking about with riot and matter at least You know for this one ID RA definitely just gonna put this on our watch list for the meantime. Oh Let me get my volume bars up. I don't think I had that up. There you go All right nice cheap stock good spread, you know, it's popping right now So maybe it could pull back, but I wouldn't expect this to be the type of stock that would shake you out You know 10 15 cents within a given minute and triple D number 8 This is a stock we are pretty familiar with we called it out earlier from this morning It didn't make our morning watch list, but it ended up popping up as soon as the market opened up So obviously caught our attention pretty quick essentially broke out from 30 ended up moving up towards a high of like 3850 So it's pretty close to a ties in relation to its low You know, so that looks great, but it's to say this stocks very heavily traded, right? I mean it's pretty similar to the ALF just in the sense of being heavily traded the momentum dying off from the trend up So again, maybe I'll come back to it the stock is shortable at least So if it does dump off here, perhaps, you know, it can make for a nice short little day trade WWR next one number 11 this stock we end up doing really well on I don't think it was from the big Yeah, it was from right over here So you could see back from October time stock ended up exploding from like two to 53 bucks all the way up towards 14 1450 here obviously dumped back down since and it's the type of stock to make that exact type of move You could see going back into late February early March essentially did the same thing So as long as we know what we're getting into with this type of trade here meaning we're not trying to swing trade this You know, if you're in from a really good price and want to reserve some shares to hold overnight That's you're doing at least for what we're trying to watch for on this trade into the afternoon It's building a higher low or already built the higher low trying to move back up now towards 550 So I would definitely expect for there to be a little bit of a shake around off of 550 And even 555 a lot of volume traded and filled right off of 555 today Not not just 550 so I would assume for that to be more of a complimentary like resistance if anything So familiar name will put this on our watch list for now WWR Healthy water break there that always helps. All right, so let's keep it pushing see what else we got G sat here familiar name from I think yesterday ended up first being called out off the pop up towards 150 and above and Obviously today ended up making a second move held 150 as support today pushed up to 185 pretty flat pretty weak right now Not too flat But definitely weak in relation to the pop and move up from today and really the past few days Atoast right so this just goes back to what I brought up about ALF in the sense of the more and more a stock Explodes and pops and it moves up faster and faster You can't keep expecting the stock to make that same move or just keep moving up and up over time So God bless this ended up popping after the market opened it ended up moving up higher later on as it broke out from 675 680 But it's like you know it goes back to what I always say when the when the volume dies off on a stock Looking at the volume bars per minute that's being traded You know obviously increased off this big pop and over time pushed up more and more But after this last burst over 750 essentially being a false breakout You could just see the volume wore off very sharply after and when the volume dies off I say it all the time so does this so does the stock so ended up seeing this begin to dive off here making lower highs from the 750 and Obviously a big shake here so it's more of a short into the close than anything these shares are hard to borrow from trade station So we'll see it also we got right now so far We have five stocks on our watch list three of those being like more of the Bitcoin, you know related crypto mining stocks So to say how about space breaking above the highs from the last couple weeks and even pushing up further pretty flat now But definitely this will be a good stock to watch come tomorrow come tomorrow morning first thing I'll be looking at space to see this type of pop and run from earlier today And like I'd said before breaking above the highs really cleanly from the last couple weeks last week and a half two weeks Roughly off of 3750 38 ish So, you know assuming for that when this pulls back down to look for support around those prices All right, what's this e next to plug plug with the little e right next to the ticker? I don't know what that stands for ended up making a nice push from earlier today I know that they had earnings earlier this morning. That's not what the e stands for unfortunately Ended up pushing up nicely and it's still pretty close to its highs at least right now I'm making a higher low and trying to get back up to 3350. I do like this plug stock We are pretty familiar with this trade and if we're familiar with this trade perhaps we check out fuel cell f ceo It's not as sharp Not as lively not as sharp You know and I'll put this on the side I likely will add plug to our main list at the end I just want to see if there's anything that looks even better something I could prioritize over this Express another reddit stock. Let's just check out the blackberries the AMC's of the world out there You know BB made a move earlier today when it broke over 13 Never pulled back there yet AMC's pushing up a little bit So I guess that can give traction towards some of the other quote-unquote reddit stocks You know, it's pretty funny.  Is this a meme stock today? Folks just to give you some insight like on that reddit group, you know wall street bets There's a 11 and a half million people in that channel in that group that are on reddit on that one group 11 and a half million Any stock that is making a big move nowadays they are talking about on reddit So don't even pull your hair out wondering is this a reddit stock? Is this or don't worry about that the more you even think about that You're distracting yourself from what you should be following the order flow looking at the prints on the tape The trend I just all the basics that we need to follow in terms of taking any trade So at least for now, I'm personally not gonna follow AMC a little out of our price range The stock also crashes my platform. So those are reasons why I would not follow that but maybe express Maybe blackberry and come back to them. I guess at the end if they make one more pop Figs FIGS. This is a new ticker. I guess I know Fausto called us out after the market opened I know all the Italians in here. We're going nuts over it. There we go. Yeah, Andrea chiming in from before All right, so we'll see what else we got though. Otherwise really I mean just looking for some familiar names Tupperware Not a whole lot happening there BBIG I think this is also another crypto related stack or maybe NFT type of stack pushed up earlier Trying to get going right now. It's on the web to five. I'll put it on the side list with plug It's interesting, but I'm not ready to fully commit to it yet All right, so I guess speaking of the reddit stocks the only others I would really want to jump too fast is either clove or Workhorse I know those those are two stocks that will not only are being talked about by the reddit channel But those are two stocks in particular that have incredible short interest So for right now both really aren't doing a whole lot seemed to be pretty flat It looks at least like clove popped earlier today, but that totally dumped back down Yeah, I'm not as jumpy to watch those right now So, you know what let's hop over to the loser's list We'll see what else we got on this side of the field for anyone on social media Facebook live YouTube anyone out there That would like to chime in please do so. Let me know if there's anything that you would want me to look at But first we'll go to the top of the loser's list GBR down 32 plus percent what makes the top percent or what makes the top of the gainers list one day Typically makes the percent losers list the next so ended up seeing this just completely Fumble in the pre-market and then after the open snapped lower Seemed to be said on torch now again This is like the perfect embodiment of for as much as it goes up When is it gonna pull back down the stock just a week and a half ago is three dollars three dollars and fifty cents And it's not just that the size of the move seeing the stock just yesterday over ten But look at the gaps on the daily chart the gaps to me are even are as important Let's say so you could just see even overnight this stock made some extreme moves without any sort of buying Or any sort of volume being transacted that doesn't automatically lead to a gap filled But the more and more it goes up with those gaps just day to day to day It's just more and more likely to happen. So I hope nobody got caught on this torch trade from the morning I rightfully so we were watching it in the pre-market and we called it out a bit after 9 30 But that was only once we started to see this begin to build off of nine when they started coming back down making the Lower highs pulling back down, you know, it's easy for me to say this I guess after the fact but for any one of us live inside the trading room It should be for easy for you to say this to The writing was on the wall to see this just absolutely crash Once this ended up making the lower high the writing was absolutely on the wall So, you know unless if you ended up taking a loss from earlier here trying to expect the balance if you got stuck Holding on to this You got a problem we really have we really have to work on a whole work on on letting go of these losing trades Should you have held on to this shirt as it was I kind of making the slower high Crashing back down below support. Hey, you ask how does the stock get from point A to point B? Just look what happened once support broke. That was it 920 ish 9 bucks. I was it Alright, so you could say that's it also for the Mavis trade ended up diving off after the market opened up I thought that they had either a common stock offering or your direct offering of shares Anytime that happens the stock just drops down in price either to the price that they list Or just otherwise I don't think they listed a per share price that they listed the offering app But obviously took a big tumble in the after hours I was in this trade with one of our students Charlie and I wish I took a better exit on it But we had a pretty sweet entry. It was right off of 1675 here ended up jumping in on a smaller size like 500 shares Still got us just about like 40 50 cents on the trade. I was in this trade when we were conducting our traders talk workshop So as it made the lower high I caught it and ended up seeing it pull back I got out on this trade when it crashed below 17 here I could have gotten out slightly ahead of time Thankfully I got out where I did because it only tumbled back down more after but damn goes to show how strong that 1675 ultimately was ended up making higher lows off that price later on and and now You know, it's at 1712 pushing back up a slight bit. This seems to be a tradable stock But again, there's a lot of tradable stocks out there. We could look at Neo. We could look at the airlines We could look at this stock or that stock, you know, this stock is just Tradable that's it. There's nothing really to write home about on Mavis at this point I was watching it off of the news earlier watched it off the major support 1675 but at this stage I don't really know where this will go for the next you know hour or hour and ten minutes from here So, you know come back to it tomorrow if it ends up showing signs of life on the way up showing an iceberg on the bid holding Or more orders getting filled on the ask then you try and jump in anticipating a squeeze back up But until that happens, I'm not really too interested Jinko Jks Jinko solar ended up taking a big drop. I thought they had earnings this week That could have been from this morning We ended up trading them yesterday going into this time of the day pushed up pretty nicely and obviously the Inverse happened today ended up diving off here after the market opened up. Let me just check really quickly see if this was earnings based Huh, I guess no earnings today. It's got to be tomorrow then I saw them coming out with earnings for this week Let me just check really fast. Oh, you know, it's funny. I knew this going into the meeting I caught myself before I actually jumped on and did my intro this whole day. I've been thinking today is Wednesday This whole freaking day, so I believe Jinko is earnings for this week Yeah, they have earnings Friday morning. I don't know. All right, so they ended up diving off here this morning I don't see any sort of news report or any headline out there for this trade really flat right now So we're not gonna watch it for the afternoon But it was just curious just wanted to see for us, you know stock that we ended up putting on our list from yesterday Obviously tumbled down today and love earnings come Friday morning All right, Eba not a whole lot happening there expev and Evie stock lower highs kind of near the lows Then aht very tradable stock we have the stock on our side list most days and not a whole lot happening here So we'll keep on our side list. All right Let's see what else we got from Terry in the trading room going back to plug really quick plug was on our side list We don't have too big of a main watch list now So we'll kind of promote this to the main list plug and building the higher low still on the way up towards seemingly 3350 So Terry was saying the e next to plug here that e in parentheses Nasdaq finance financial status indicator. It says delinquent issuer missed a regulatory filing deadline. There you go All right. Well, that's not gonna stop this stock for moving up clearly right Terry So just because it has the e next to the ticker symbol Don't let that fool you don't let that be a distraction to you You know for right now this looks still looks really healthy on the way up heading into the afternoon here All right from Norman DGBI or DB GI my trader's dyslexia kicking in my throat getting scratchy here nice pop Though so far right? I mean it seems like it's a new ticker just over the last month or so IPO You know pop and drop and Obviously today making a nice pushback up here So, you know what I'll put this on our list just be really careful because not only as a new IPO But it seems like a stock that doesn't really trade a whole lot of volume on a day-to-day basis Very inconsistent volume per day 11 million one day 2 million 898 thousand the next day after that and it's all over the place So I feel like the volume could die off on this type of trade rather quickly I mean the volume bar is here just keep an eye on but yeah good call for right now We'll see if this ends up making a better move Grant said ALF moving to 1175 1375, but yeah, no pushing back up a bit I don't know I feel like this stock already did so much across the day across the last few days and trading 167 million shares today That's a lot for any stock let alone this one I feel like it's just only going to be exhausted if it ends up popping We'll call it out after after we finish up this meeting and see if we can catch it in time from there But you know for right now. I like the the riot the marrow that I DRA. Let's go back to that That's already on our list mind you but this one still looks pretty strong as a nice cheap stock that you could trade a lot of shares of You know you want to see it try and build a support perhaps off of 144 145 first But otherwise, I like this one a lot still all right folks Let me know if there's anything that I missed though up down left right more than 5% From Mitch Connor love seeing Mitch in our YouTube feed. He's asking about Neo NIO down 5 plus percent So another EV stock again and one that I may have briefly mentioned as like a sideless stock Yeah, I mean it was dropping down before to make a new low of the day it broke below 44 and pushed back above it It's down more than 5% so I like to see that all right. I'm a bit of a sucker I like this one a little bit more compared to some of the others that we've talked about thus far So this Neo trade will make the cut a little pricier, but we'll see if this could pin itself back down towards 44 and Then on the same side of that Trading PC solutions joining us here again. Welcome back Asking about Nikola and KLA so whereas Neo is diving off into the afternoon There's Nikola another EV play just on the complete flip side pushing up beautifully. I'll be honest I mean this goes to show why you can't assume But I was assuming when he when trading PC called this out I was like, oh, it's probably gonna be a similar type of drop-off compared to Neo. Oh boy was I wrong? So yeah, beautiful play. I like to stock a lot great call here on the Nikola on the way up All right, cool Actually, this will probably make near the top of the watch list We are very familiar with this trade as well So it's not just the fact that it's at the highs but the stock we do pretty well on on a day-to-day basis, right? All right, folks I think that just about wraps it up a little longer of a meeting here today I didn't have class this afternoon. So I was able to a stretch it So all in all we got two four six eight nine stocks now in our watch list that includes the plug That includes the Neo and Nikola on top All right, folks. 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Introducing Nets General Manager, Sean Marks. Thanks, Michael. Appreciate that. It's only fitting that a press conference look and feel a little bit different right now under the given times that we find ourselves in. But first and foremost, I'd like to welcome Steve and welcome his wife, Leela, and the Nash family to Brooklyn, but also to the Nets family. I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank Joe and Clara for their incredible support that they've shown, not only the Brooklyn community, but the Nets organization of this past year and throughout this entire search process. This has been some different unprecedented times for us all. So thank you again to Joe and Clara. As we spread the net in our search for the next leader, the next connector, a communicator, and a cultural driver, we looked for these qualities and all these qualities we found in Steve, his résumé, his Hall of Fame résumé, his experiences both on and off the court, and his character are second to none. Joe, Si, and I were in lockstep throughout this entire process, entire search process, and we were completely aligned in the intangibles that we'd be looking for in the next Nets leader. And as Joe put it clearer than ever, we would be looking not only as I mentioned before for a connector, but we would be looking for a conductor. That's pretty simple there. But with Steve, his winning past, the way he's played the game, his family values, and just the curious and creative mind that he has brought to the game over a 20-year career. And also really, maybe more importantly than anything, is the joy with which he played the game and the joy with which he led his teams and that his teams played. We're deciding factors in making Steve Nash the right choice for the Brooklyn Nets. I know Steve and I are looking forward to continue to build here. We can't wait to get to work. Without further delay, Steve, congratulations, and thanks for joining us here. Thanks, Sean. This is an incredible moment for me and my family. I'd like to thank my wife, Lila, our five kids, Lola, Bella, Matteo, Luca, and Ruby. We're thrilled to be in Brooklyn. It's an incredible community, and we've gotten off to a good start here in week one. I'd like to thank Joe and Clara, Tye for believing in me. Generosity of spirit and support they've shown has been incredible and makes us feel very welcome at home here. I'd also like to thank Sean. This is a conversation that's, I don't know if it's culminating or if it's an inflection point but it's been going on for 20 years. Just playing together, playing against each other, having a conversation about the game, sport in general, culture, leadership, all the components that it takes to run an organization. So this is a full circle, so to speak. So, and lastly, I'd just like to thank all the coaches I've played for. Going back to junior high school, high school college and the pros and for Team Canada, it's been really a pleasure and an honor to play for the type of people that I've got to play for. And they've definitely all had a huge impact on me. So, you know who you are. All of you guys have been incredible parts of my journey and I'll definitely use all the wisdom and lessons I learned from you throughout this experience.


I found this recently. It's quite nice. So once I actually start presenting to you and talking appropriately, then I'll be able to do my presentation. Here we are. So this is a revision of a talk that I give every now and then. You can see I've crossed it out. That means it's new. And if you're a follower of zombie movies like I am, hopefully you get the idea of Day of the Donkey. Like it's one of the better ones. I think that's the one where they have a clown in the missile silo that's a zombie, which is great. Well, I'm going to go over what I'm going to go over briefly. But I guess this is the last talk. So usually what I like to do with my talks is not so much inform you what to do, but to give you tools to go back to inform other people. I guess that's technically evangelizing or whatever. I'm just trying to proselytize the movement to you here. So as we go through a lot of these things, some of it may be things you've heard or repetitive, but I try to package it up so you can take it back to people who you think need help being went over to doing things as you like them to do. And there's lots of links and dense stuff in here. So if you want to get the slides, you can go to the link there and you get a bunch of other pivotal stuff if you're into that, but you can download the slides and check them out and have a good time if you can't read my infinitesimally small text. So I like to begin with conclusions. That way, you know, you can leave or use the restroom and also it reminds me what I was going to talk about. And so let me go through those briefly and then we'll detail those out. And as we're going through the presentation, hopefully you can keep these in mind. So if you get lost, go back to the conclusions. And that is what I see as was mentioned, I was an industry analyst and I worked on strategy. And nowadays, a lot of what I do is I try to explain to the business world why, you know, why they should buy pivotal products, obviously, but why they should be interested in new types of doing things, whether it's DevOps or Cloud Native or whatever you like. And it's always good to have, if you remember that phrase, burning platform that the Microsoft people or the Nokia guy had a while ago, it's good to have a reason to do something other than just gratuitously doing it. And we'll only touch on this briefly, but it's pretty evident that the moment businesses are craving pretty much IT that isn't as awful as it is at the moment, right? They want to evolve their business models and do new things. So they're desperate, these businesses, all these people in these big fancy towers around here in your lovely city. You know, they want to start using IT in new ways that they're seeing all these, I don't know, unicorns and Uber type people doing it. And, you know, for various reasons, that's not really working out for them. So I think that the ideas behind DevOps and the broader idea of Cloud Native, which is a fun phrase that's been bandied about recently, these things have actually been going quite well to fix that gap. And there's lots of great predictions. Now that I'm not an analyst, I can acknowledge the existence of other analysts. There's predictions of lots of penetration, lots of spread of DevOps, which are great and very encouraging. And I think the technology at this point actually works pretty well. If you get the technology fit together. So technology's not the problem. It's really, there's a lot of meatware issues that we come up with, which we kind of talk about incessantly, thankfully at DevOps days. But a lot of what I want to focus on is like some of these common meatware issues that come up once you get technology in place. And, you know, as mentioned, mainstream IT is not working out too well. And when I go over the meatware issues, there's about five of them down here. Like I said, I like to put a lot on slides. But essentially, I think it's good to think about the big picture, right? We were just seeing like value streams and keeping your eye on the largest prize instead of locally optimizing on things. And similarly with your technology stack, it's good to be aware of that. And also, I'm finding as I talk with people more and more about doing things in a new way that management really needs to get its act together. They're really like behind the times as far as figuring out what I do with this new tool. So we'll talk about some quick tips of what management should be doing more of to make sure that technology is working out well. As I like to joke, it's not just you bought this fantastic Ferrari and you're just using it to go buy milk at the grocery store. You should have bigger ambitions than that with your Ferrari technology. And part of that is making sure your organizational structures match. And that's sort of an obvious throwaway thing to do. But because I work at Pivotal now, I talk with a lot of people who are going through this transformation so I can give you a brief insight into what those organizations are looking like and how they're crafting them to match more of a DevOps kind of cloud way of doing things. And finally, there's one other piece of advice that I would give to you guys and that is to like, and this was just gone over in the previous talk, is it's good to start learning business stuff and speaking that language. I think it was Nietzsche who said, be careful if you stare into business, it'll stare back into you. And it's good to let it stare back into you. So hi, this is me, in case you can't tell. I actually got a great intro, so I won't really have to go over this to establish my credibility and bona fides and all that nonsense. But I've been an analyst and I've done corporate strategy and M&A stuff. I live in Austin so I did my compulsory tour of service at Dell up in Round Rock there. I do a lot of podcasts if you're interested in that. Usually I haven't had as many beers the night before so my voice sounds a little better, not as scratchy. And every now and then, I guess monthly I write a column on DevOps stuff and you can catch up with all sorts of things I have going on there. And I'm always, as I'll emphasize again at the end, I'm always happy to talk with people about all this stuff. I really, aside from my family, I have no hobbies except computers because I'm a thrilling person to have at your party. So if that's the kind of stuff you like to talk about, then we should band together because there's only about five or 20 of us in the world who like to talk about nerd stuff like that. So speaking of nerds, that was a serendipitous transition. Let's just quickly dip into that void of the business world and see what's going on there because judging from the way most people are, what is courtiering or addressing themselves around here, not a lot of business folks here, but it's important to know what the business is, the people with the money, what's going on in their heads because they're sort of the customers for many of us, what we're doing. So we would hope that they want us, us more Lockean people in the IT world and that they kind of have a clue that they should be doing something interesting with us other than making sure they can schedule meetings and get their email and that their hard drives are backed up. And indeed, this is a great time. This is going on right now. This is the CEO of JP Morgan Chase or JPMC. And this is, you see quotes like this or I see quotes like this a lot because I seek them out. But this is from his annual shareholder letter, which is kind of a quaint word for a very high stress PDF that they put out. And essentially, I've kind of compressed the quote, but to put it in my own words, he's like, there's all these tech people coming, the Silicon Valley mindset and we're gonna kick their ass, because we're not gonna put up with them taking over our business. And this kind of like aggressiveness from non technologies is encouraging for us. It means if you see more of this out there, there's more pull to start using technology to do something new and interesting rather than just sort of not acknowledging it exists. And we see this now, especially at Pivotal all the time, many of the companies who work for us, like they always use Uber as an example. So it's like officially five minutes and 59 seconds, I think that took me to mention them. And that's kind of their example of like what they're trying to avoid. They don't wanna be Uber'd, they wanna Uber themselves if they will. And that's, you know, it's a good goal to have and it means lots of computer stuff is needed, which is great for us. And this goal is shown again in charts, right? Like as I was mentioning. So I kind of overused this chart on the, what is that, the my right side, I guess that would be your left side. And but it shows that being a company listed on the Fortune 500, so being on the S&P 500, being on top is really hard. Like way back in the Don Draper days, you could just kind of rest on your laurels, right? You could last about 60 years on there. But dramatically, and there's little curves and blips and everything, but you can see that it starts to go down that your ability to last on top has dramatically shrunk. Now, computers aren't gonna solve all of that problem, but it does mean that businesses are desperate for anything to survive, right? To make their line longer than the norm there. And obviously, as mentioned earlier, they wanna go from this sad state to like this media, this crazy growth that's rumored for Uber to have. And I think they have some more updated numbers. These are several months old. But like that growth in revenue for something as like boring as a taxi service is like mind-blowing, right? And it's all because of computers and programmers and all of this stuff, right? Like it really is just a car service with a nice app, right? And the cloud stuff to back it. And companies realize that they can start to do that if they know how to use all of this correctly. So to further drive this point home, you can tell I worked in strategy because I use a lot of charts to make my points. So kind of always select the chart that you want. But there's a couple of things here, but it's obvious that when you go out and survey the market that businesses aren't getting what they want from IT. Like it's not really working out. It's not moving fast enough. And this one over here is somewhat depressing. Basically 75% of people surveyed, and it's a pretty large survey if you look up the end. So it's credible, I would say. They don't think that they're doing agile innovation well enough. Now I guess you could needle it and be like, well maybe they're doing unagile innovation perfectly fine. But you know, good job. You should have a job in making charts. So, but this other one over here from the Cutter Consortium is actually, it's even better in that it's much more depressing like this little dude up here. And you can see that IT playing a key enabler for business innovation has shrunk. Like it already sucked back in 2013, right? Let's say 50 to 60% of people thought that IT was helping them out. But look how long, how far it's gone down in the preceding years, right? So collectively, we're not doing a very good job, right? Like we need to up our game and everything. Now, thankfully, like lots of people here, like DevOps is a great way of thinking and it really is sort of like the beginning of the process of a secret tool to use to really close that suckiness gap, right? And there's great predictions from Gartner, right? That you're gonna have 25% penetration, which means, it doesn't mean market share, it just means at least one person at that place is using it, right? It's been penetrated. It's a terrible name, but there you go. But you can see there's also this other gloom and doom here, right?  There's good news on top and then you're pooped down there. Which is to say that like, they're gonna screw up, right? Like not everyone's gonna be Colonel Hannibal there or whatever with his like corrugated steel like welded onto a van and be able to figure it out. Like it's gonna blow up in their face. Be bad, be a one-term president, so to speak. And so, you know, what are we gonna do is essentially to save the donkeys, right?  So we've got this terrible situation where IT's not doing as good as they can. There's this thing that looks powerful, this DevOps and cloud and everything. How do we help them out, right? Well, first, I think as always when you're doing something new, it's good to be humble and realize who you are, right? And also realize who most people are talking about so that you can kind of catch up on things, right? So pretty much everyone talks about these guys or maybe that's a lady. It's probably better no gender ascribes themselves to these people. But essentially you've got these unicorns, right? Like they can do everything, they're awesome. They have, they like, they come up with cool stuff. They talk about it all the time. Like they're people, you know, speaking on diocese like this or however you pronounce that. And you know, they just like, they don't really seem to need money or work by the normal rules of reality, right? And I mean, they're awesome. They come up with lots of good stuff. Now somewhere in the middle, you have like these, I don't know my French very well since high school, but you've got these like war horses, right? And those are a little more solid in that they have lots of, they make lots of money, they're big companies. They sort of have the resources that it takes to become better, right? So they still need a tremendous amount of help but they kind of know what's going on. These are the companies that have been around 20, 50, hundreds of years. They like know what's up when it comes to survival. And then there's the rest of us. We're like these donkeys, right? And all we're trying to do is like get a carrot and stick it on our head and pretend like we're these people over here, right? Like we would be happy to just be able to deploy every month, right? Or like there's lots of things we would like to do and we're kind of like stuck essentially. And so most of what I'm interested in and again what I wanna try to help you guys to take back is like these folks over here, like we sell a lot to that middle category, right? So they know what's going on but these people over here they kind of take care of themselves but our caratid friend over there need a little bit of help, right? So we need to go out there and sort things out for them. And just in case anyone is insulted I went to a third party, one of my colleagues who is trying to explain I'm not insulting people by calling them donkeys. You'll notice I put myself in that category, right? Like donkeys are just real people with real problems.  There's a wonderful podcast, the goat farm. Goats are wonderful animals. They got those funny eyes, they'll mow your lawn. They taste great, very multi-purpose, right? So donkeys kind of just do one thing. Goats are much better. Call yourself whatever you want. You could just call yourself a person. That works too but it's not quite as fun. So let's look at donkeys, right? A lot of the donkeys are like this wonderful piece of clip art. They're kind of like lost in the early 2000s, right? They're sort of like this binary matrix they're going in and they're like they're so proud of themselves, so sassy, right? Like they're figuring things out. They got these logos but in reality they're this IT department of slow and no, right? It takes like six to 12 months if not more to get things out. Businesses struggle to like figure out what to do with them and they basically treat them as a cost center, right? Like it's like they just keep their email up and I don't really understand why I would give these people money, right? Like these are the donkeys that we need to help. This is some excellent work that I did there. Very proud of that on an airplane. So I would argue that nowadays as I was saying a lot of the technology stuff like works. You can make terrible technology choices or spend your time on the wrong stuff but the tech works pretty well if you get the right stuff in place. And when you go out and look at surveys this is another pretty legit survey I think it's got MIT associated with it so that must be legitimate.  But if you look at all of these like you can tell that most of these are not really tech problems, right? These are all what I would call meatware problems like people and process issues which is what I see all the time like nowadays and in past years is the technology's not the issue, right? And I think this is like a great example of why it generally drives me crazy that at these conferences we talk about culture all the time but I'm warming up to it because it's pretty much like that's what the issue is. And also I just use Comic Sans as a font there. So congratulations to me. So let's look at what happens when you've got a meatware problem, right? That's causing a technology issue and I wanna use this analogy of the urinal. Now for those of you who are not familiar with the culture of the men's room these are urinals and it's an alternative mechanism for evacuating your waste product if you will. And these are particularly awesome ones. These are older ones that the gentleman and otherwise in the room will recognize some of these. The only awesome one is like that floor length one. You see those at Costco. Those are great. But these are pretty cool, very retro, right? Like they almost have mustaches. But they're basically like bathtubs for babies and they take up a tremendous amount of water. And if you look at this, you'll see that someone has strapped these sensors on top of here, right?  And they like basically half-assed it. And like there's still like this gallon of water down here instead of saving water. Now our goat friend, Michael Ducey reminded me that maybe it was just to like, they put that there to make sure it doesn't smell well enough, but he's always ruining my metaphors. Let's just pretend it's to save water. And the issue is like, so the process of like thinking all the way through what the problem wasn't how to solve, it wasn't really focused on enough. And they ended up with this kind of half-assed solution quaint as it is. And you see that over and over again in the cloud space, in the dev out space in the technology world. So this is just one quick slide, one survey from a Gardner conference. And it was asking like, it's kind of a loaded question there. Like what's going wrong with your private cloud? Now maybe it means they should have asked public cloud, maybe nothing's going wrong there, but the green part that's usually means good. Only 5% of the people were being successful with their cloud project. And again, if you look at the areas, the reasons, most of them are not really technology based. No one has like, didn't work. Like it's just like we're doing the wrong things and therefore we weren't being very successful at it. And this is just one slide, but I would see this over and over again. And I still see it where you put something in place. It's that Ferrari to get a gallon of milk, right? And you don't really think about, now what do I do that I have this in place and how do I change it around better? So what you wanna do when you're in a situation like that, when you've got these water consuming urinals or these Ferraris or the what nots that are being done is kind of step back and think about why am I using this technology? What are the goals that I have?  The first thing that I was asked me is what my goals are and like I tell them like, if I knew I wouldn't be talking to you. But in this case, you know, it's good to know what your goals are and focus on it. And that is, as I'll get to, let's think about, so if you wanna be like our buddy Jamie Dimon up there and start harnessing to use a fancy word leveraging or using computers and software to change how your business runs, then you're really wanting to become basically a software company. And the way to be a software company nowadays is to get to the point where you can release your software daily and you get a feedback process in place. And all this wonderful stuff that we do so you can focus on really like design, so to speak, and make sure that your software does something your users want, right? Which is always the biggest risk with the software product is like, oh, user didn't actually want this, bummer, right? Like, so you wanna put something in place that allows you to run all of that and also be on this quick cycle for doing things. And, you know, you wanna have your mobile app and run it at scale and all of these things kind of coalesce together to really lead to the need to have DevOps and also all the stuff that DevOps supports behind it, right? And it's almost to that point where, as my little disclaimer appears as more or less, where I start to think of getting continuous delivery and DevOps as the same thing, right? Like, they're not really the same thing, but it's sort of like, would you have each one of those without the other in most cases? Like, probably not, right? Like, continuous delivery is like this goal that you as this software defined organization that we're talking about has. It's like, I wanna get to the point where this is on at least a weekly turn, right? Where I can deploy new features into production and do all sorts of things. We also have this magic feedback loop so I can increase the quality of my code, right? So, and this has actually been gone over in several talks. It's like, I would start to conflate these things more and more together just to simplify it for everyone, right? So, I'm in marketing, in case you can't tell.  Like, we sell them all sorts of stuff, other people sell them things, but really what they want is this. And however you fit into helping them out with that, like, this is the hole that they essentially want. So, I wanted to give everyone a mental break here. This is an obligatory slide break we're gonna have. There's another one later on in the presentation in case you need a rest. Here's some silos. That's a joke I stole from Damon Edwards. So, thanks to him. Anyways, let's check in on how it's going. So, how's this going on transforming people to be a software defined business, as I like to call it, or you can call it a cloud native enterprise, but it's just sort of like using custom written software to change how your business is doing and try to beat that decreasing survival curve and like make IT less lame. There's a couple of things to look at. First, if you sort of accept the premise that when we're talking about DevOps and cloud stuff, we're talking about putting continuous delivery in place, a really easy dipstick, so to speak, might be to look at, so how are we doing of getting continuous delivery in place? And on this side, I've lost track of which side I should speak to, but over here, you got this sad donut, right? Another sad donut going on. And this is a survey I did back at 451, or all of us did. And as you can see, we're asking people, what C, continuous integration, continuous deployment tools are you using? And there's this weird, almost 30% of people, red is bad, in case you don't know, who like are doing nothing, which if you think about it, I forget when the continuous delivery book came out, but it was definitely in like on the internet, which everyone should read if you haven't checked that out. Talking about continuous delivery for many years before that, it's like a best practice. And for this amount of the market to not have it is astonishing and depressing. It's a pretty small survey, so it might be flawed, but then there's, look at these people, that's great. There's like 30, 25 to 30% who are doing something. And then there's always these people who've built their own stuff. I'm sure it's working great, right? Like I'm sure everyone, I'm just probably a lot of build people in here, so I'll be careful, but I'm sure everyone loves their build team, right? Like they're always doing great work with the tools that they have. Now I think a better survey, it's always better to see year over year and D-Zone has a survey that I like to refer to here. They're sort of like people who believe they're doing continuous delivery and that's improving, right? Like 2015 is on top, 2014 is on bottom, but when they use a more stringent set of rules, I think it's kind of like the Martin Fowler rules of doing continuous delivery. You see that while it is improving and that's encouraging, there's still not that many people who are doing continuous delivery. So we need some accelerants to like speed this up, right? Cause if you can't really be doing continuous delivery, you're probably not going to, what was the phrase? Have agile innovation. You're going to be back to waterfall innovation, which I don't think is going to work out in the business climate nowadays. And anecdotally, this is sort of like what I encounter in companies that I go visit all the time, right? It's just like very depressed, not very happy, very self-reflective looking at themselves and they're very apologetic. They're very good at telling you why they can't do anything and how awful it is. So, you know, we got these E.O.R.s running around and happy coincidence, E.O.R. is a donkey. I verified this on Wikipedia. So, you know, it's as E.O.R. is fond of saying it's not much of a tale, but I'm sort of attached to it, which they're sort of like, we need to raise up their spirits cause they're the ones who need to fix the problem and make things better, right? But they really, IT people are not happy. So, how can we help them? What can we do as a DevOps community and sort of like computer community to help the E.O.R.s out? I guess, maybe we wanna turn them into Tiggers or something, which is also an imaginary creature that causes lots of problems. So, we probably shouldn't do that. But we just need to improve them and help them, you know, deliver on that, help their companies deliver on that dream of being a software-defined business. So, I'm just gonna go over a few things that I think would be helpful at this point in time. So first, and this is sort of like a vestige of me going a little crazy when people only talk about culture at DevOps days, is I think it's good to spend time clearly talking about the tools and technologies that you put in place to do all of this magic, right? And this also comes from having been on both sides of, well, I guess there's three sides. There's users, sellers and analyzers, if you will, of cloud, and like, for so many years, no one knew what the hell they were talking about when they wanted to do cloud, right? And we, on the vendor side, were not very helpful, right? Like, we didn't really clearly explain to them what it was and how to categorize it and things like that. So, I think it's worth spending a lot of time saying, as one of my former bosses used to say, this is what's on the disk. Like, he would say, like, tell me what is on the disk, right, we would tell him all this cloud stuff and he wanted to just know a bounded thing of it. And this is a model that we use at Pivotal, kind of explain everything that's going on. And you can see we like the cloud native phrase, very popular phrase. I think I could put in some clip art from Zoolander here if I was feeling feisty. And you can see on top, you've got frameworks, right? Which kind of decompose into 12 factor apps and microservices. So this is the way you develop software so that it works in cloud and you can get towards that continuous delivery thing. And then you have a runtime underneath here, right? Which does all of the orchestration, as people commonly call it, runs your middleware, makes everything cohesive and running together. Does your security and access like all this stuff that you need? And then underneath that, you have operations which layers on top of the infrastructure, automates things, configures it, make sure that it comes up and down and when it should and so forth and so on, right? So this is kind of like including the culture part which I'll get to like the whole stack of technology you want, right? So don't obsess about anyone layer too much. Like keep your eye on the big picture of stuff, especially when you're trying to explain to people that this is like all that we're gonna need, right? Like a bathroom is not only a toilet, right? Like it has a sink, maybe some subway tiles. It might even have a shower or a tub, like there's a whole thing going on there. And then underneath that, as I'll get into with much of the rest of this, is you need to have an empowered culture. Now getting to that point is difficult, right? But you need to be aware that just putting the stack in place isn't really gonna get you all the way. You also need to think about how your culture, how your meatware stuff is really using and taking advantage of that stack. So we have another fancy diagram here. You can download the slides that kind of, again, this is a very pivotal bias view, but it kind of lays out like, here's all the stuff you would be worrying about in that stack. And this is just a lovely slide that one of the guys on my team that I work on, Casey West put together. And it outlines kind of like the 12 factor things in there and then what you want at the infrastructure automation and the runtime layer.  So getting on to the meatware stuff. Like I was talking about in the conclusions, if you remember way back then. Management, I've been noticing recently, really needs to sort of like step up and get more involved. A lot of management, and this is like another talk I always wanna do, is focused on like decision flow. Like they want people to just bring decisions to them. I'm sure none of you have this problem. And they just wanna make a decision and then like hit the links, right? Like they just wanna decide things. But really what we need in this new sort of cloudy era and doing DevOps is management has to be more involved day to day. They have to be the ones who are leading change management, setting goals and culture. I mean, dare I say it, they need to manage, right? And metaphorically it's sort of like there's probably some people who play Dungeons and Dragons here, right? Like imagine if you didn't have a DM. Like I don't think that would be fun. It'd be kind of weird. But management, think of them as like the dungeon master for setting up the game and doing the boundaries and kind of bringing everyone around, right? And eventually you can sort of move to the self empowered team that can run itself. But you kind of need management to do things. And in this cloud era there are, it's a lot of change management and again setting goals that they need to do. And just to make a reference, there's this great book that came out recently leading the transformation. And it's written by someone to reference the HP firmware person who works at Macy's now. And it's the second book that person and probably will always forget the second guy. It's sort of like, you know, two people wrote the microservices thing but everyone always just says Fowler. But it's a great book by that same person and his buddy there. And it really goes over what management should be doing in a DevOps world. Not really what non managers should be doing. And this is a bit of an older book from 2010 but my friend Israel Gatt, there's a lot of really good management focused stuff in this book. And both of these are pretty short and they're good to look through. And just to plug my own stuff, I'm writing a blog series, basically going on what the cloud journey is when you're transforming and how to deal with stuff. And so I've been dumping a lot of things in there as well. Now the other thing, kind of outside of the box of DevOps and like coolness that needs to happen is someone in your organization, probably management, has to start getting really good at portfolio management, right? And you've probably heard about like Bimodal IT and Legacy IT and all the EOR stuff of why I can't do something, right? And so before you start off in doing your highly innovative DevOpsing cloud mumbo jumbo, you're gonna have to like free up resources both in money or not, it's more than both. It's in money, time and corporate attention. And chances are like this is just one model you can kind of look it up that our EMC buddies do in one of their teams is you need to look at the whole portfolio of the apps that you have and optimize the crap out of the stuff that might make a lot of money but doesn't require a lot of attention, right? So you might decommission things, highly virtualize it, move it to AWS or whatever but you wanna just like shove all that nonsense away so you can focus again, red is bad, green is good. So you can focus on the green stuff and buy time to be innovative and focus on things. And if you don't have portfolio management going on in this kind of switchover, you're gonna hit all sorts of problems because you're always gonna have some other, someone else's hair is gonna be on fire and it's gonna catch to your hair and you gotta somehow isolate, at least isolate that person if not put the fire out or I guess you could be completely bald and avoid that situation. So like I said, I was gonna go over some emerging organization structures that we've been seeing. And this is, you have to pardon this clip part, I tried to shrink it to be representative. This is what we've been seeing a lot and when people use our product and competitors and other people who are doing more of a cloud native approach is that a lot of the functionality gets up at the app team, right? And this is where your DevOps team are where it's important to think about it in the sense of it's people who have skills from all the way from the UI layer to UX to understanding like how networking works and the implications of doing your various crazy, like the infrastructure implications of doing all of your application development all on that one team. But it's also a team that's empowered with a product owner and they're very like self-directed and self-contained. And in companies that I look at who are successful, they don't just like think that that's a fancy thing that they hear that you have these two pizza teams, like they actually do it. Like they combine teams together and they're operating that way. And again, this is why I went over portfolio management, right? Like you manage your portfolio so that you buy time to do all this fancy, unicorny type of stuff that sounds like it would be time consuming. Now underneath that, I went over like what a cloud native platform is, but you end up with a platform, right? And we talk about a lot of that stuff here at DevOps days often, right? Like you've got obviously some hardware or some sort of infrastructure. You've got to manage the operating system on that. You've got to manage the software you want deployed on there. You've got to manage how your application is deployed on there. And then if you're using a bunch of services that work together for identity or a recommendation engine, you've got all these services you need to manage the orchestration of, right? If you remember SOA, like those concerns still exist, how to manage all those things. So you kind of end up building, hopefully you end up building a platform that does all of that management for you so the people up on this side of the cake can just focus on doing the application development instead of building platforms all the time. And then once you have like a highly automated cloud platform, this is where the interesting part happens that I think distresses people out a lot is you end up needing less and less solely developed operations people, right? Like this is the great thing of cloud is it basically manages itself. And we see like, I always forget the ratios so I won't quote them, but there's orders and orders of magnitudes of different ratios of the number of admins you need to manage cloud base things than regular. And that's a big change for organizations that it may seem intuitively obvious and straightforward to people in this room, but for many organizations they don't know what to quote unquote do with all these operations people. Now they should like move up the stack because their skills are needed, right? Like they're very sorely needed up here. Like I used to be an application developer. I don't understand how all that stuff works, right? Like I just write my crazy JavaScript and my little things and mobile apps and I need someone to read man pages to me at night to explain how the world pans out. So that skill is needed essentially but again, I think this is worth going over because your organization is gonna need to change over to take advantage of this Ferrari thing that you have. And here's our friend again. We saw him in the previous presentation. He's great, right? This is sort of like the last part that I wanna emphasize is as you start to get better and better, it's probably a good idea to figure out what these crazy business people with their wonderful hair are up to, right? Like why is this guy so happy? Like what makes them tick? What do I need from them? What do they need from me? Like how can I start facilitating and working with them more, right? And again, when you read kind of like over the past decade the case studies of companies who are highly functioning or whatever the puppet study way of putting it is or who are these software defined businesses, they're very tight with the business. They're usually pretty lucky because they're in the consumer space and everyone understands retail, watching movies, sharing photos, like so you can all dog food yourself. It gets a little more difficult if you're in weird industries but it's really important to understand like the business stuff and not feel like you can be ignorant about that. And if you need to kind of engineer it out, you think about how you can start programming the business. Like programming infrastructure used to be a boring topic for people who like to program, but now it's hot, right? And start thinking about how I could program a business essentially. And it'd be great if you can expand the land grab out and out, right? They used to be developers, then like XP and Scrum came along and took over QA and then they kind of took over product a little bit and like we need to keep having that circle go out and out more until we get more and more into business. So before I wrap up, I have another break for you. Another obligatory slide break. I'll just let this stand on its own. If you're interested in helping people come work and being a secret ingredient, we're hiring. You can email me, I'll get a referral if you're a key hire, I mean a referral bonus. So that'd be great for me. But yeah, it's a fun place to work and we do all this kind of nonsense. So thanks for having me here. It's really a nice city. I was looking out there at the river, it's like very picturesque, like the color of Poseidon's eyes, if you remember that. It's nice, these buildings are great. I always enjoyed talking with people like I was saying and I'd love to talk more about any of their reactions or topics or findings that you have. I do lots of podcasts where I kind of interview people about just what they're up to and so I'm always looking for people to be guests on that or just chat with people and if you come by our booth over here, you can get a free book that kind of goes over the programming style and microservices and things like that and we've got all sorts of stuff at our microsite. You can engage with us till you're red in the face or whatever or satisfied and you can get the slides or an email me and with that, see everyone next time. Where can I find you, where can I find your podcasts? Yeah, so if you go to cotay.io slash podcast, I think you have to do the plural, I should check that. Squarespace is good at URL mapping but they make case important, which if anyone works at Squarespace, you should fix that because that's asinine. But yeah, if you go there, you can see the various podcasts that I do. The main one that I do nowadays is called Software Defined Talk and I do it with an IBMer and a Shepher, I guess. I don't know what they call themselves. Yeah, and yeah, it's more or less weekly. We just, we talk about the tech world. The last one was called the Software Nihilist so maybe that like gives you a taste of it but yeah, I'd love to have you listen to that and tell me what you think. Thanks, Cote. Well, thank you.


After the welcome session, we begin the program with an audience poll using Slido. This polling session is aimed at assessing participants' opinions, expectations, and points of view on various aspects of pitland restorations. This polling session will be moderated by Professor Daniel Murdi Erso. Pa Daniel, the time and screen is yours. Thank you, Iska. Ladies and gentlemen, colleagues, friends. I'm sure you're already familiar with Slido. If you can go to the browser, please upload to slido.com and use hashtag swamp. Or you can go to the chatroom. In the chat box, there is a link. Vito, can you put up the link? No, I didn't see it. It's not there. Just click that Slido link. And then you have the Slido application with you to join this exercise. So with the help of the interpreter, I will explain or run this session in Bahasa Indonesia so that I can talk with my Indonesian colleagues. So the interpreter will translate it for colleagues who are speaking. Jadi ini adalah sebuah cajak pendapat. So this is a poll, ladies and gentlemen. This is not a test or a quiz. There's no right or wrong answer. This is just us sharing our opinion. And you are also going to do it anonymously. So that way we can capture your honest opinion. There are four aspects that we want to ask you. The first aspect is the biophysical aspect and then the social, economic and governance aspects. For each aspect, we have prepared four questions. So in total, we have 16 questions to answer. Now, from the results of the poll, we can capture general view and overview of your expectations about pitland restoration in Indonesia and seeing those views from those four aspects. Let's start now. Oke, saya kira pertanyaan pertama terkait tengah. So the first question is regarding the biophysical aspect. So we have two languages, English, followed by Indonesian, after Slast. Oke, jadi yang, sorry, pitel, baik. Jadi dari pertanyaan pertama. All right, from the first question. The participants are hoping that there will be more pitland reweighted. Oke, the second question. Kalau kita ingin kesuksesan diukur dengan kondisi hidrologiknya, kalau kita ingin mengenai kondisi hidrologik, apa yang Anda pikirkan tentang kondisi hidrologik? Sebagian atau belum, atau belum punya kesempatan mengamatkan? All have been reweighted or partially reweighted or you haven't got the opportunity to observe? Oke, jadi sekitar... So from the responses that we've got, 40% of the respondents mentioned that only few have achieved the target. Berikutnya, pertanyaan ke-3. Question number three concerning biophysical aspect. So if we would like to see more pitlands, semua sudah sebagian, in your opinion, what is your view? Or in your understanding of restoration related to the re-vegetation, do you think pitland restoration? Oke, sangat pinomis sekali pertanyaan ini. Baik, seperti kondisi hidrologi, jika kita melihat kondisi hidrologik, yang paling banyak, menjelaskan bahwa hanya beberapa yang telah mengalami re-vegetation. Jadi, 44% dari respondents menjelaskan. Pertanyaan ke-3. Jika ke-3. So, di dalam bagian yang berkaitan dengan perakat, yang terlalu besar di ke-3. Menurut saya, orang-orang yang mengharapkan perakat, orang-orang yang berkaitan, orang-orang yang berkaitan, orang yang berkaitan, orang-orang yang berkaitan, orang-orang yang berkaitan. jadi seperti hidrologi dan faketasi. Masih belum tuntas, masyibat. Kita perlu memperbaiki manajemen kebakaran. 46% pertunjutan menjelaskan hanya jika Anda memiliki target. Terima kasih banyak untuk pertunjutan kebakaran. Pertanyaan pertama, Fito. Kalau kita mengamati aspek sosial sebaiknya. Apakah perubahan perilangnya? Apakah perubahan perilangnya? Apa yang perlu dikembangkan dengan pelanggan sosial mengawal? Apakah perubahan perilangnya? social structure of the community is it identifying potential conflicts or identifying groups that are for and against beat restoration efforts. Thank you. So while we wait for Padanyal to join again, let's continue with this slide of all. We have just started the social aspect and we are now on first cover the, I think we covered the first question. Now can we move on the second one in this? This is about when behavioral changes are observed, what aspect of people in restoration are affected. There are four options. Kindly take your time to go through them and provide your opinion on this. I'll wait for a few more seconds because there are people still polling. The main thing that's emerging is different use of different type of vegetation to support livelihoods. So that's one of the behavioral change that is observed as per our group polling here. So we have about 100 parties, more than 100 participants and 60 have voted. So we'll give maybe 10, 15 seconds more because there were long options to read through. Once we cross about 80 people or participants mark, then we'll move to the next slide. What is interesting is in this poll is that the least voted option is keep using existing peatland, but aware of peat wetness by keeping soil moist. So I think this is very clear that this kind of positive behavioral change is observed. So I think the polling is stopped at 65. We can move to next slide, Vito. I don't see it changing. So on the next one, we are talking about considering the different community conditions in each hydrological unit, or should the social impacts be measured? So there are various options. What would be the best way to assess? We have a few quick responses. Make sure you are reading all options. I'd also like to again mention this is not really a quiz. It's just there are no right or wrong answers. We're trying to assess through your perceptions, through your experience, through your knowledge of peatland restoration. What is your opinion? What are your perspectives? So share your own opinion. And here the highest poll is received by option, which is creating a baseline to compare the impacts across community groups. So that would be a good way to measure social impacts in each peat hydrological unit. And the next one in this one is comparing within a certain group over a period. So this is also important. So between two time periods before and after, and see how this has changed. Which is another way to assess the social impacts. Okay, we can move to the next one. I think this is the fourth and last option in social aspect. This is regarding gender equity and participation of women. When women participate in peatland restoration, we understand then what progress is observed. I understand in some cases you might think that there should have been an option to choose more than one. You can edit also. Yes. Put a new answer. Pa Daniel, good to have you back. I was filling in your shoes, but I was limited by my language skills. So I was doing it in English. Good thing we had it. So if you want to take on from now. Your comment on the last questions on the social? Well, I was just saying that on this one, this is about women participation. The most prominent one is in the active decision-making process. When they are women are involved and decision-making is more inclusive and active. Why am I saying inclusive also? Because that comes the second next. So those two first and second are the highest vote to get, if I can say that. Thank you, Rubash. Can we move to the economic aspect? Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, friends, I was kicked out. And thanks, Rubash, for replacing and filling the gaps. First questions on the economic. I think these are very exciting questions that we have. We are expecting options which economic data are more important to measure in the impact of restoration. Data apa yang diperlukan untuk restorasi? Data ekonomi apa? Which economic data are more important to measure the impact of restoration? Is it fresh data that are taken directly from respondents? Is it calculated data on value? So in general, most of the respondents have chosen fresh data that are taken directly from respondents. So the least option chosen here is the secondary data. Investasi, kapital bergeser kelepahin bawah. Tetapi secara umum, 70% hampir. So umum 70% of the participants chosen or are off the opinion that fresh data that are taken directly from respondents are more important to measure the impact of restoration. The next question, Vito. Dengan mempertimbangkan kensi yang ada on going intervention, at what level can the economic impact of restoration activities be measured? Is it household income? Is it business activities? Is it workforce absorption? Or is it contribution to gross domestic product? Sementara household income atau pendapatan rumah tangga menditu. For the time being, household income is the highest chosen option or answer. Almost 70%. Of the respondents choose household income followed by the workforce absorption. Oh, it's still ongoing. Okay, I'll give you more seconds. Tapi tetap pendapatan rumah tangga menditu. But again, household income is the top or most chosen answer. The third question in relation to economic aspect. If the impact measurement is carried out at the household level, which respondent is most relevant to measuring the economic impact of pit restoration? Is it household directly involved in restoration activities or household not directly involved in restoration activity but their properties are affected by those activities? Absente land managers or owners? Tidak bisa ditanya, mungkin yang terakhir absente land manager. Or the last option is the absente land managers or owners can be Jakarta or in other big cities. Most respondents or participants have chosen the option of A can be but not C. It means that household directly involved and household not absente land managers and owners. Ini sudah mempunyai apa yang terjadi dalam perjalanan. Terima kasih banyak untuk itu. Sekarang kita akan bergerak pada pertanyaan ke ekonomi. Bagaimana keputusan ekonomi yang harus diperkenalkan? Data awal. Bagaimana data inisial? Melayu sebelum pemerintah. Sebelum dan sudah intervensi. Saya kira sangat lucu dan menjadi pilihan sebagian besar-beserta sehingga kita bisa membandingkan apa dari restorasi dan ekonomi dari restorasi. Saya kira ini sangat kuat. 63 pesan. Saya pikir ini sebuah masalah. 63 persen dari respon yang telah memilih pilihan itu. Bagaimana kita memiliki pilihan yang lebih banyak? Pilihan yang terakhir adalah keputusan. Pada pertanyaan pertama pada keputusan. Ada tiga perkara yang dipercayai pada periksaan Anda. Apa yang paling penting untuk memastikan program restorasi pitlandan? Bagaimana pilihan restorasi pitlandan? Bagaimana pilihan restorasi pitlandan? Bagaimana pilihan restorasi? Pilihan itu menulis pilihan restorasi pitlandan. Pilihan itu dipercayai dalam program restorasi pitlandan. Saya cُelirkan sekarang pilihan restorasi pitlandan. Saya memikirin pilihan restorasi pilihan yang terakhir. Saya bertanya untuk mempunyai kepercayaan atau kepercayaan kepercayaan tersebut untuk semua pembelajaran yang berikutnya di depan FITO. Jadi jika kita mempunyai kepercayaan, jadi di periksaan Anda tentang kepercayaan yang berikutnya, kepercayaan pada Restorasi Pitland. Apakah itu sangat berharga? Sebenarnya cukup sukses, sedikit sukses atau tidak dapat p ahora? Sebenarnya seperti tema biophysikal, mana-mana yang paling terkejut diberikan adalah keskontekan keinginan. Terima kasih banyak buat itu, for that. Thank you for your responses. Apakah, Neri Dampak? Sorry, ini pertanyaan kedua ya. So is this the second question? Okay, pertanyaan ketiga. Alright, now let's move on to the third question. So in your view on sustainability related to organization, do you think the government has sufficient organization on pitland restoration? Is it quite a decade, somewhat sufficient, hardly sufficient, or you do not have opportunity to observe? Mirip dengan jawaban pertanyaan kedua, masih sedikit soal organization. Similar to the answer. Orasi dari segi apa? Organisasinya apa? The defense mentioned that the organization is somewhat sufficient. So we need to look at the lower level field or the national level field. Here. Alright, the last question regarding budget. In your opinion on sustainability related to budget, do you think government has sufficient funding on pitland restoration? Do you think there's adequate funding, somewhat sufficient, hardly sufficient, or you haven't got the opportunity to observe? Ini menarik. So this is interesting. Aspects terlumnya different from the previous two aspects. Yaya ternyata peserta dinilai in relation to the organization and regulations, in relation to the budget. 45% di antara tiga pertanyaan jawabannya. So 45% of the participants have chosen this option. That the budget is hardly sufficient. Thank you so much all of the participants for your kind participation in the survey. So we can also check the chat box. On your responses. So thank you so much for your kind participation. So your responses will set the tone on our discussion today regarding the progress of pitland restoration in terms of the biophysics, social, economic, and also governance aspects. Thank you so much. And now I'll give the floor back to Iska. Terima kasih.