So, and as a reminder, I think you've probably already seen this, but for all the groups, the next same priority, the role of the priorities that were up on the slides that are on there that we did in the first place. I have a question for you. Yeah. Do you have an advisory group of volunteer hydrologists? We've not yet, but I think we volunteer. We have one of our neighbors actually at some point before since he was a hydrologist. But I mean, there's a number of people in town. But there's actually a volunteer group that was around doing free volunteer hydrology and stuff for town. Yeah. It's already out there. So, I should, I should, is the microphone ready? Okay. Sorry. Okay. Do we have hydrology volunteers? That's where they are. Yes. So I, my answer of not yet was a little bit too truncated probably. I should say there are two folks who are particular on the commission and in this working group, that being one of them who, I'm not sure, hydraulic, who are very much experts in this, in this category. And we have begun in reaching out to other experts. And then certainly the plan of the commission going forward is, is to do exactly as you're suggesting. So, yes, they're, they're, so while I say no, I also mean yes. I hope that, I hope I'm making sense first. Yeah. I guess the second part of that was on the scientist side. Is there, is there a geologist or somebody else? I was wondering if you were given by your phone. Yeah. Sure. Thank you. Is that on? Sorry, geologist or somebody who knows the, the region around here well, the geology because I don't know that I have been involved in energy in the past. And I know for instance here in New York we have large underground storage facilities for gas for New York City. And I'm wondering whether there's some sultans or some domes underneath here that could be used as a storage facility, which are sometimes pretty substantial. Sure. Sure. A similar answer to the first one, which is the commission will certainly be reaching out to those types of groups. I should also note folks that it's not the commission and any of my colleagues please, Ned in particular, please feel free to jump in. But the commission, it's not our goal and it's not a realistic goal for the commission itself to become the leading expert in the state on these topics. What we are, what we can do in this watershed management is to ensure that the various groups who are working in this field are talking to one another, you know, to connect the dots. Get smarter ourselves certainly and tap into the exactly kind of experts you're talking about, but also to make sure that all the parts are playing together and connected. I hope that makes sense. Ned, do you have any, Ned is one of our experts in watershed management. I'm involved in watershed management and but I'm not a hydrologist or a geologist per se. I'd love to talk with you more. One thing I would say though is that there is a process underway right now, so already in across the state in the highly affected areas, there's work going on to bring in contracts and to bring in hydrologists to do an initial look-see at really particularly high prominence opportunities to do floodplain restoration projects and to reduce flood damage impacts in some of the communities that have been most highly damaged to Berlin and Barrie and Middlesex and Montpelier and right on up to the watershed. So that process is going on in this area and also up in Johnson and Ludlow and other hearted areas and out of that will come a cluster of most likely prominent opportunities and then the commission and the public will be involved in thinking about which ones can really move and where to put additional money to work up more specific plans about what could be done in terms of acquiring and changing situations to restore floodplain functions. So a lot of that is in process and we look forward to having that happen. It will take time to one come up with a big schematic which is likely to take until the fall at least and then after that there'll be a process of looking at that and saying well these are a whole bunch of really good ideas but we got to start somewhere and chase the money we have and begin picking a way at it and continue that process. So that's kind of where we're at with that. Other thoughts, questions? Yes. How's this? Good. Hi, my name is Paul Markowitz. I live here in Montpelier. Comments and questions. One is as you can see like from this gentleman I think there's a wide range of expertise that exists in Montpelier and my hope is that this commission taps into that expertise. I understand that's the plan for the long range. It's not just communication but how can we engage, how can we involve and bring these folks all the expertise. People are itching and really want to get involved and this is a critical issue. So I hope that's the long-term plan expanding the universe of folks that are actively involved in making the change. The other one is a comment and a question and that is around planning versus action and I love that the commission's already gone ahead and identified like a concrete opportunity at the place near Agway. And I also hope and this is the question part that there's a long-term, that the goal is to develop a long-term plan for the entire watershed in terms of flood mitigation. I don't know exactly what exists but it seems to me that would be an ideal task for this group to look comprehensively at the range of actions that can be taken to reduce flooding and so maybe that's the question part. Hopefully that's part of this. I can take a little bit of a stab at that and that is that the scoping assessment that Ned just referred to will be kind of guided by Vermont Emergency Management and they've secured some funding from FEMA I believe through the hazard grant program to do the scoping assessment up and down the Wanooski, identify a range of projects and try to calibrate them and say how much will this reduce the flood risk and what are the benefits and what are the drawbacks. We see the commission's role is once that analysis gets done and it will be done I believe in part, perhaps even by Jose's neighbors, that the commission can help make sure everyone in the community is aware of those, gets a chance to weigh in, we can all together balance, okay we're going to have to give this up, we're going to gain this and let's see what we can do about better consensus around moving some of those forward because some of these projects are going to be tough, we're going to have to give up something in order to gain some future resilience. So how do we best educate people and bring them in? Ned, did you have something you wanted to add, Ned? Okay, thank you Donna. Well I had a question twofold, one is like resources, we know that the regional planning commission has done a lot with watershed, I've been in one of their committees and so they can really be very helpful and likewise as far as dam removal which we have four non-functioning dams that really need to be removed and several years ago the state did a report recommending them but it's very costly because of the toxic behind the dams. So my question is how soon, let's say I feed you that report, is there any way that the commission can start acting to give the state momentum this legislative session? I mean when do you act on any of this?  We have a little just kind of proactively knowing that it's very much in line with all the goals that I was talking about tonight, so there is a piece of legislation that's moving right now, there hopefully will be a vote tomorrow through the Senate Natural Resources Committee up at the state house that does include river corridor regulations, wetland regulations and dam and it invests in the dam safety program at A&R and funding for dam removals and so we're like, I know Ben on our behalf as the chair has testified in that committee, kind of sharing the story and part of it has been like trying to build the urgency as kind of the role the commission has identified as let's keep talking to them and reminding them why that kind of legislation needs to move and why they need to put money into it. So we've played that role so far trying to support that legislation that has that dam piece in it. I don't know if that answers your question. Yes it does but if you actually read this report, report says Montpelier is the most vulnerable city in Vermont due to these four dams. I mean quote the state, the state's words. Let's do that. Yes email it to me. I had a question on the dams. What's that again sir? Yeah, Ned did you want... Here Ned come to the microphone. Come to the microphone. Yeah we don't have any funding or authority in of ourselves so all we can do is advocate on behalf of the people of Montpelier and in the watershed that these are important priorities to be picking away at and we need leaders and particularly people that can help move projects and indeed we're looking for people that do have an interest in making things happen. So one of the things that really matters is when there's a project that's important and there have been many studies and many great ideas for the city of Montpelier in terms of flood resilience in the past and they've come up with long laundry lists of things that could be done and they're not done and that's because somebody needs to step forward and be the champion, the captain, the person that's going to bird dog it and we need lots of bird dogs. So this is where the community really kind of makes the difference and pushes the commission and works with the commission, works with pushing the legislature and all the different pieces. Where is the bottleneck to make things happen? There's a lot of room for making all these things happen and we don't have the authority to make anything happen but there's a lot of bottlenecks, one of which is money and then the landowners need to say it's a good idea and it takes time and it takes a lot of engineering and a lot of work. So all these things but we need to work away at it. Yeah, just adding right on to the discussion of the dams and I think that it's vitally important that this commission just come out and very clearly say that they support the removal of the dams. I don't know that that has been clear in the materials and the positioning. I think in the same ways of having a press conference and supporting the bringing back the post office like just saying that like yes, we want to remove the dams like let's not get to the question of if. That's been answered. Let's get to the question of how we're going to do it, how we're going to get the funding and to be able to do it and I think that my understanding of the process right now. I mean the the Rivers Coalition is sort of put on an RFP and there's a study going on about you know, removing the dams and you know, I think their last comments to city council about that process was maybe we'll remove the dams like if this report sort of yields that as a recommendation. And I think it's just, you know, important to get our entire legislative state and federal delegation on board to say like yes, like we're going to remove these dams of Montpelier and any of these dams are in the same category in the state of Vermont and just say like we're going to do it and I think that will help tremendously in driving the very extensive permitting process and whatever funding process that ensues down the board. But to this point, I don't think I have seen that forceful, clear like decision that like yes, we're going to remove these. It's just a matter of how we're going to do it. Just an idea that would be a suggestion about as a 15 person commission when you want to make a statement or a stand or maybe a vehicle that allows you to get public opinion quickly on things like that. So it's not you, it's the public saying, yeah, we want to remove the dams. And that could be a system like as Ben has said, this long journey is going to be about systems in place. So perhaps a system that quickly pulls the town on ideas and votes and is able to express an opinion. Thank you. Thanks, Jen. Hi, I'm Jared Duvall. I just wanted to appreciate one of the priorities that's listed here in terms of promoting public understanding and support of watershed functions. I'm somebody who is not an expert in watershed management, but I understand how important it is. And I know enough to understand that it's a very complex nuanced area. And I think that if the timeline in terms of some of the reports you were mentioning, Ned and that have come up in terms of some of that broader looking at opportunities will be towards the fall and that when those decisions are coming up, they're going to be involved difficult tradeoffs. That before that, like in the spring and summer, just want to lend support for having sessions. And I don't know exactly what they would look like. Maybe some site visits, maybe some presentations and discussions so that those of us in town who aren't experts can benefit from some of the folks who are in the latest data and evidence, because I get the sense the more and more I hear about watershed management that sometimes things that sound obvious can have unintended consequences or have the reverse effect. So the more that we can kind of be up to speed and be as informed as possible in advance of some of those difficult decisions with tradeoffs, just very much support that. And thank you for identifying that as a priority. I have a question. I grew up on the North Branch. And when I was a child, they used to drain it periodically and clean out all the trash and just really clean it up. And lately that hasn't happened. And I'm sure there's reasons for it. Again, I'm not an expert, so I don't know. But I also know that the North Branch is much shallower and it is filling in on the sides. So we're not, is it the man-made dams that need to go away to allow the river to flow the way it should to give it more resilience?  Let's get our actual watershed expert. Yeah, that's a great question. And so you're asking about the functioning of the North Branch and is it constrained in some way and is that a problem? And there's a whole nest of questions in there that come out of that. And I, like many people, have been out with the church groups going up and down the river hauling out shopping carts and tires and blocks of stuff that had been tossed into the river. And that's an ongoing chore up and down the roads of Vermont and the rivers of Vermont and North Branch as well. And yeah, definitely there's different, there's some grass that grows along the edge of the North Branch. But that's really not a big issue on the North Branch. It's mostly a fairly rocky-bottomed channel. But the whole existence of Montpelier has been really in antagonism with the river channelizing, it's squishing it in, creating walls, and it's very much more of a conveyance. I think I just heard a bell. So it's a problem of thinking about water more broadly and that's one of the many things we can think about together. But it's probably not actually a big problem on the North Branch though. Yeah. I just want to point out that if you'd like to, Mark was just ringing the bell. If you would like to transition to one of the other working groups to hear from them as well, now's a good time to do that. And those other two rooms are just straight down the hall. They're the first two classrooms on the left as you go down the hall that way. Otherwise, you're welcome to stay here and continue the discussion with us here. The other thing is that we try to capture all your questions here. If you want to take a look and make sure I got your question or suggestion down, happy to have you do that. Yes. I just want to congratulate you guys for the leadership you're taking. I think it's crucially important. The one thing that I would say is it was really smart to choose one place where you could have a quick early success at that confluence and that you should be doing that sequentially and aggressively. And the question of moral of authority here, because you're leading and because you're representing the city and you're really representing the people, you have as much authority as you take in terms of rallying the public and engaging them to put their power on the line for project to project. Sometimes that's going to mean political pressure. Sometimes it's going to mean communication. But all those studies from the past are all out there. You don't wait for somebody to do it and you don't study it again. You say, what's the priority thing that we're going to do this next six months that we could line up around? And then you're engaging the power. You build trajectory and people will be with you and be leading for you. Yeah. And I think on that topic of authority and just sort of what we can do. This is my own in my head and my personal view on this is we are essentially there to ensure that resiliency has a seat at the table for all these discussions where oftentimes it hasn't in the past. Or and to make sure that when projects like that list of projects on our resources page that have been floated a month there before eventually sort of die on the vine because the flywheel stops spinning. We hope that the commission can play a part in making sure that that flywheel does not start spinning and ensure that the way we're also in a different time.  I think it's on everyone's mind and it's the commission's position and job to make sure that that urgency, again, it's a flywheel that the urgency keeps spinning and make sure that those those thoughts are brought to all of these discussions. Any other questions? Yes. Hi, my name is Kasia. I'm with Vermont River Conservancy and this is in part response to the previous half conversation. But I wanted to thank you first for recognizing that work that happens both upstream and downstream of Montpelier is critical to improving things in Montpelier. The reality is that this community is going to need to support floodplain restoration, river corridor easements that are outside the boundaries of this town wholeheartedly. So really appreciate that. Specifically, the Home Farm Project came up, which I'm very excited to see happen. That's at the confluence of the Upper Winooski and the Stevens Branch. I think that that place would love to be a beautiful floodplain and wetland and the Home Farm is critical to that. And I would encourage the commission to also look more broadly at that at the Castela's Waste Site that is immediately adjacent, the UVM Records Facility with significant parking lots that I see mostly unused adjacent to that facility. There's also a gun club just across the way and then a state owned V-Trans property that has flooded five times in the last 12 years. So I hope that all of those can be part of a broader wetland floodplain restoration that I suspect would have significant impacts here. And then the dam feasibility studies came up in the last conversation. Our organization is leading that work right now. We are in the middle of the feasibility studies. They just started. It will take probably 12 to 18 months to complete the feasibility studies. And the intent, the hope, is to remove all four of these dams. They are owned by four different people, four different entities. They have different sediment behind them. We really want to move forward with implementation. That's the plan. That's why we're doing the studies. But it's not possible to do implementation without the studies. So we were working on this before the floods even happened. So the project is a bit accelerated in some ways. And that's in process. And I think what we're going to need is the funding for the implementation and the community support to make sure that these have the political will to move forward. Yeah. So those four dams, I'll start right in downtown Montpelier. The most visible is the Bailey Dam, which is right next to Shaw's. Everybody knows right where that is. Just around the corner under the pedestrian bridge where the north branch comes into the Winooski, there's a very small dam kind of locally known as the rat dam or the trestle dam. That's already partially breached. If you go upstream on the Winooski, if you go past Bar Hill, past the veterinary clinic, if you walk the bike path out of town, there's a dam there. The Pioneer Street Dam that probably has the most sediment and the most carcinogens in that sediment that's behind it. We're going to learn about what that is. And then again, upstream from that is a dam that's called Hidden Dam. It is in fact a little bit hidden. It's right at the base of U32 High School. And so that's the four dams. Hi. My name is Steve Gold. I've lived on the north branch since 1978. When the depth of the water behind the Wrightsville Dam was raised for power to create a low-head power plant, the dynamics in the north branch changed dramatically. I have a drain in my basement that goes out to the river. The north branch had never backed up so that water came into my basement prior to the level in the Wrightsville Dam being raised to say nothing of the fact that it wiped out a magnificent stretch of river that used to be above the Wrightsville Dam and before you got to Putnamville. So that's one comment that I think that needs to be checked out. What the water level in Wrightsville is doing in terms of the dynamics of the north branch, especially as it fills up even higher with floodwater. The second comment I have is that right now a very hot topic is what's going to happen to the Worcester Range. There's been all kinds of comments about that written. I just saw a very interesting report from the Conservancy in Natural Resources Council rather that endorsed the state plan for timber harvesting in the Worcester Range. And there have been a lot of letters vocalizing against that. My concern is that the efforts of the commission make sure that the issues of upstream and headwaters flood control is seriously considered in the final version of that plan. That's one of the concerns I have. If they're exposing half acre open parcels all over the place, what's that going to do to the drainage when we get these incredible deluges? Jan, do you want to? No, the microphone. I was just going to say Ned can probably feel him, but we believe that the Department of Environmental Conservation has requested some assistance from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineer to take a look at Wrightsville and see how if there are changes in the management that can happen there that might address some of all of our concerns. Thank you so much for all the work you're doing. I'm curious about individual action that people can take, and I don't recall seeing anything around stormwater management on individual properties. Is that something this working group will be doing? I think the short answer is yes, because it certainly fits with the adaptive downtown watershed management. Certainly that's a piece of it. I, what's that? Oh, sorry. The short answer is yes. We're obviously early stages in the commission in terms of what that might look like, what efforts we can support or will support, that sort of thing. But thank you for bringing it up. I love what's being floated in this room because it's, you're capturing really the breadth of the challenges. And if you have more to your question, is there? I think it's really about what individuals can do, because a lot of people are thinking, okay, yes, a lot of things are going to take 12 months, 18 months, two months, two years, who knows how long, but there are things I know that individuals can start to do, especially on people who have larger parcels. So having education around that, I know there are ongoing projects that a lot of nonprofits are doing already, but having that be a little bit more targeted to individuals with parcels where water is actively flowing into the rivers into the trips would be something to look into. And that's another example where, you know, the Vermont River Conservancy and others, there are experts in the state working on exactly these kinds of issues, and that's where the commission, we're going to do our best we can to help to bolster, amplify, connect those. And I love, I think what I was starting to say is that you brought up sort of personal property storm management issues, you brought up like ahead and let, you know, way, way, way, right when the rain first falls on the highest peak, and I thank you for doing that because you guys are really encapsulating the breadth of what needs to be taken into account. And it's huge, but there are experts out there working on this, and there's more to be done, and there are the connections to be made, but you're really wonderfully capturing, I think, where the thought needs to go into the various places that water can be captured, slowed down, controlled a little bit better, knowing that we are going to get that water, and how can we reduce, or in some cases, minimize, mitigate whatever the flooding that happens. So thank you. I'm Becky McCullough, and I wanted to bring up a similar thing about in the beginning when people were talking about what we could do. Someone would routinely say, well, there are things that individual homeowners in town can do to slow the water down. We live up on the hill and we weren't flooded, but there was so much water coming down that we've lost a couple of trees. And so I'm planning on doing a water garden in our house, you know, the things like that. So I would second that. And I was also wondering about how there were going to be connections made with other communities. Anyone on the connections piece? So again, on the home, on the individuals, I think that it's certainly on our radar to help, again, bolster, amplify those. And to the idea of hosting learning events going forward, I think that would certainly be a wonderful one in addition to, you know, what's happening way out of eyesight for most people beyond the river corridors to help this issue. What was the last piece of your thing? Oh, yeah, the connections, yeah. James, I can take a crack at that. And one piece is through this obscoping assessment that's going to be happening up and down the Winnowsky. Those projects are going to be interrelated and hit a lot of different communities. So I think once that report comes out and there are projects along there, we're going to be in communication with other communities around, okay, what do we think is feasible? What do we think is doable? Maybe there's a short, mid, and long-range plan I think it may be. Well, there aren't our kind of commissions in other towns, someone that would happen through the Central Vermont Regional Planning Commission, but I also want to highlight that Pat Molten is here. And she works for the governor and is particularly tasked with Central Vermont Recovery and is working particularly with the communities of Berry, Waterbury, and Montpelier. And she's living that connection and connecting those. I don't know if there's anything you want to add, Pat. Thanks, Jen. Hi, I'm Pat Molten. I'm your Central Vermont Recovery Officer. I'm all things long-term recovery, good to see so many familiar faces. Eventually, and I can't tell you when, we want to convene a river quarter summit, if you will, of the communities, probably municipal leadership, maybe, I'm still thinking about what that's going to be. But when those communities have a better sense of what the actions are that they're going to take, I mean, Berry's looking at how can we reclaim floodplain, you're looking at that, trying to get a beat on where it's Marshfield, Cabot, Waterbury, et cetera. So that will be one venue for that sort of collaboration. But I think Jen's spot on Central Vermont Regional Planning Commission will also be. The scoping study will also be. So it may take a bit, but that will be happening. Another wonderful example where the experts and the work is being done and the commission I think is going to be playing the role of, again, an amplifier connector doing our part to support, bring to the table anything that isn't already there that can help these efforts. Just some of the individual comment about what individuals can do, kind of prompted this idea. Because we have a big spring in our backyard. And so when we get a lot of rain, there's a lot of water there. And I don't know if that's something that needs to get collected for the bigger whole. And or if there's something that, you know, you all would recommend for us that have that kind of spring to, I don't know what, you know, I don't know what it is, but now it's just running down. And everybody's springs are probably just running down. So I don't know if there's some kind of collection that needs to happen. If that's a serious, if it's a serious like way that more water is getting into the system, I'm not sure. But I just thought about that. Ned, do you have any? Yeah, that's a great thing. I'll be interested to talk with you later. But groundwater is an important resource as well. And so springs and clean water are really important. There'll be times where Montpelier is looking at drought. And the functioning of our groundwater and access to it is going to be critical. So we have both sides of the coin to deal with here. And so, and the flooding that comes into our communities is not from springs per se. But we do need to be mindful of water and how we manage it. And typically we want it to be in the ground where we can and saturating the forests and saturating the soil structure and taking a long time to come into the city so that we don't have it all arrive at the same time and do a lot of damage. Really basically bending the curve as we know. Reducing the flow, having it all come asynchronously over time. And so all of our places are good, our springs are good places to think about water and groundwater and what's going on. When your spring is running really heavy and the rain is coming, that's the scary point. Because the ground is saturated or frozen and we're much more susceptible to damage from overland flow. But your spring is not causing the flooding, it's okay. Hi, I'm Jack McCullough. I want to mention that for the last couple of years the city's been working on developing stormwater utility. And like many things, it kind of paused during the post flood time. But the idea is that for the city to handle and manage stormwater and all the things we do with stormwater cost money. And so the stormwater utility is a way to assess the cost of those stormwater according to property and property characteristics and use that to generate funds that we will then use to do big things like capital projects all the way down to little things like street sweeping. So things don't get clogged up and so that's in the works and it continues to be a priority for us. And one of the benefits of doing a stormwater utility is you can structure it in a way that if you have good stormwater practices kind of to your point you can have reduced fees depending on how you set it up. So it can be structured potentially to incentivize individual action to kind of reduce your impact on our water system. And I'd just like to compliment the city actually. There's been some really wonderful communication coming out of the city in the past several months about different activities. The one that really caught my eye, I don't know if you all saw it, it was a few months back like maybe November, October about the work on the water mains. And it was a detailed look at what those water mains were made of, the history of them, the work they're doing, why it's hard, what has to happen. My entire, for the past 25 years, my livelihood has been spent trying to communicate the topics of science and the environment to the rest of the world. I help scientists and engineers translate their work to the rest of the world, largely in sustainability but other things too. And I read that post, it was sort of a master class in how to do it. It was really wonderfully done. And I compliment the city for, because I think that's the kind of information and the way to get that information out that the commission is going to be taking to heart too with all of these complicated topics and making sure that very smart people in our community, you all, all of us who aren't trained in these topic areas, get this information in a way that it means something to us we can understand and we can act on. So, in other words, the city's doing, I think, some wonderful things in that regard, and I hope the commission's plan is to do the same with these other topics. I apologize. No, thank you. I'm Zach Porter and a resident here, like many or all of you. The executive director of standing trees, which is a public land advocacy organization that works all over New England but spends a lot of time working on public land issues here in Vermont. And I want to thank the gentleman who spoke about the importance of our headwaters and the Worcester range, which is a huge decision that the state has in front of it right now that we can have a significant impact on over the next several months. The agency of natural resources is working on a management plan that will not just last the next 20 years, but really set in motion management for this landscape for potentially generations to come. And this coming fall is when the final plan is expected to come out, but there's, you know, there's time, but not a lot of time for our community to speak out. And the towns of our surrounding towns haven't waited and it's great to see that Middlesex and Worcester have both, both of their planning commissions and the conservation commission, I believe in Middlesex, have all called for a pause. They're all experiencing the same flooding, of course, that we are. And so not only do I hope that we join our surrounding communities in calling for changes in the state land management, but I also hope that we might think about, if we haven't already, just something that came to me a moment ago. I don't know if this is already under consideration, but why not partner with the communities around us to actually pool resources to protect more wetlands, to protect more headwaters. If we're not already talking about that, you know, Montpelier is small, right? That's one of our greatest challenges. We don't have the tax base to do a great many things that we would like to do in this town. Let's join forces with the communities around us, but I do hope that the city leadership and this commission will use the pedestal that you have to speak out for changes in this Worcester Range Management Unit, Long Range Management Plan. The comment period closed on the draft plan on February 2nd, but that should not stop anybody in city leadership from speaking out. Just today, FPR Fish and Wildlife were in front of the House Environment and Energy Committee testifying on their draft plan, and there's time to make a huge difference at the state house and with ANR. So anyways, thank you to the commission for the great work that you're doing and for this forum today. Thanks, Zach. Who's next? So the others are going to join us back here in about eight minutes for our closing sort of piece on this evening. So any other questions, comments, ideas, things you want us to be thinking about, people you want us to know about? Any other, yeah. Hi, I'm Dick Muller from here in town. And to help with the woman's question in the back about how homeowners can be helped, when the site visits happen, you were talking about going on site visits up and down the river. If people, if there were wetland specialists there, plant specialists that could help people, give them ideas right on the spot what they could plant. Maybe they've got enough willow around so they could cut some more and put it in their fields but get to work on it. Wonderful, thank you. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren, do you want to break on that again? No. I'm wondering, Front Porch Forum seems to be a very active site of conversations about all these issues and about the work of the commission. Fairly often, things seem to come up on Front Porch Forum like, oh, why not dredge the rivers or do this or do that? It's the kind of thing I think it might be helpful. I tend to respond to some of these things from the extremely adjacent perspective of a spouse or somebody involved in this but I don't actually know what I'm talking about most of the time. And I think it would be really helpful if people on the commission could be, particularly those interested in communication could be actively monitoring this stuff and responding to it really quickly from a position of knowing what you're talking about and having some credibility on the issue and explaining, well, this is, yes, there is somebody, there is land available for floodplains even though a cynical person posting said that will never happen or yes, really there is, it's really a very bad idea to dredge the rivers and this is why. So I just would encourage that kind of, you know, sort of monitoring what's going on at least on that piece of social media and responding very quickly with some expertise. Thank you. We've got time for, yes. On the lane shops, I guess it's a bridge, the thing that, the bridge, there was a lot of debris that had built up there for years and it was there, it was there, and then after the flood, it was at the Spring Street Bridge blocking it and that caused a lot of the flooding. Is there something that we can do to make sure that the debris that flows down the river doesn't kind of get caught up and then cause a problem later on? Ned, do you want to, or Laura, sorry. I was just going to say, I know that that issue has been raised, for example, to our great Central Vermont recovery officer of how, you know, in particular is the kind of thing that we need state help to do and support, so looking for how we can bring those resources kind of on an ongoing basis and is there a way for towns could then share machinery or things that it takes to clean up that debris, so that idea is definitely being explored, I hope. But it's being raised for sure, so yeah, thanks for raising that, it's important. I just had a question, I don't see Kasia anymore, I mentioned the four dams on the main branch of the Winooski, but I know there's a bunch of dams along the north branch other than that very first one by Shaw's, so I'm wondering where that fits in in terms of affecting the river and dam removal potentially. Ned, do you know the status of any of those? Yeah, the lane shops has a dam there by the pedestrian bridge, which I live right next to, and so it's a problematic dam. It does, you know, it was created for some of the first industries, you know, water power in the city and the lane shops, which we went on later with the advent of coal to become a foundry, so it's a historic feature. It's also very problematic. The owner would love to sell it if he would like to buy it for a dollar, and there's a big insurance risk to this, and it's hard to maintain and probably can't make any money from hydroelectric power off of it, so it's a real problematic thing. It's also a dam where a lot of people love the feature of the pond behind it because they're used to that, and so it's very scary for people that are trying to talk about restoring aquatic movement of fish and habitat up and down the rivers and reducing the flood risk on the north branch to even stir the pot of talking to the neighbors. So I think that's one of the biggest problems, but it may be the sort of thing that, you know, when it blows out and causes a huge deposit in the north branch and it back up and chokes up downtown, we may decide it's all going at that moment. I'm sorry, it's just a very tricky place for people to get into politically fraught, but it might have some value. During the peak of the flooding, I was up on the pedestrian bridge and you could see the water backed up behind the dam and then there was like a six-inch difference between that and the water that was backing up from the Winooski. So what's that? You could canoe right over it, right? I guess I'm just not sure how much flood. It's not in and of itself causing damage to structures upstream of the dam, but if it blew out, it would be a big problem downstream of the dam. I think one more, and then the other groups are about to join us, I think. This is about the dam. The people living adjacent to the dam actually had an informal agreement with the personal owns at the dam by the lane shops five years ago, which would at the least have involved a transfer of ownership and responsibility of some of the property. But when we tried to comply with the city requirements for making this transfer property happen, we hit a point where we were told that we had to get a survey of all of the properties involved that it might cost something like $12,000 and that these surveyors were not confident at all given the amount of bodies of water involved that they could actually do a survey. And at a certain point after working very hard on this for about two years, I kind of threw my hands up because by that time everybody else had kind of given up and I was like, well, I give up too. But this was the situation where the city could have and actually still could take some action to assist in this process. And that might help solve part of the issue about the dam. So I would be grateful to hear from anybody about that. Thank you. Thank you very much. So folks, as you've seen, the other folks are joining us. We're going to have a little bit of a closing session to wrap things up, announce what's sort of coming down the pike as well. But I just want to thank, for those of you in the room and those of you coming into the room, thank you very much for your feedback, your questions, your ideas. We have been noting them down. They've been noted down in the other rooms. They remain, they will read until the end of the evening, post-it notes at the back of the room if there are any ideas or thoughts or questions or resources that you want to continue to float. Because those will go to use in the commission, I promise you. And just again, thank you. And know again that this is the first, this is the beginning of our communication, two-way communication with you. Not sort of a pinpoint along the way. And absolutely not the end of it along the way. So thank you very much. We'll wait for the other folks to come back in. And then I think our fearless leader, Ben, will take us into the closing of the evening.


Brugnet, we've seen you break out the bun single on Sunday night baseball a couple of times now what goes into kind of your decision making there and how much energy do you think it gives your team when you're able to get on the way that you did me a bat prior to the home run. I was just trying to get on base, you know, I was leading off that inning and I see that I got chance with to bond in that situation right there and I was just trying to get on base from our team and trying to score runs. Aaron Boone was talking about you before and he was giving a lot of praise about you as a competitor and a teammate and the consistency of you in the clubhouse.  I'm just trying to be myself, you know, I like to win games.  And, you know, this is a sport, it's a long season, you know, and we got a lot of open downs, so I just try to be the same guy all the time in the clubhouse and when I play too, so I like to be like that. Your numbers over this last 20 to 25 games have really, really been good. How would you describe kind of the rhythm you're in or how you've been feeling at the plate over this last month? Yeah, I've been feeling pretty good. I've been feeling pretty good at the plate, you know, I'm just trying to help my team to win when they give me the opportunity to play the game and that's it. I feel really good at the plate and our team is feeling really good at the plate. Tom Merriam, you have the next question. How much did your home run change the complexion of the game going from 3-0 to 5-0? I think it changed a lot, you know, especially in that inning and in that situation I was just trying to look for that piece that he throwed me and put good swing on it and thank God that ball out of the field.


There's a perfume of a million flowers clinging to the heart of Old Hawaii. We got up at 5.30 in the morning and hit Reveley and got out in a clean sweep down to the decks. It was Sunday morning with no holy stoning and no painting scraping, but clean sweep down and then Chow Call and we went to Chow and we ate in number 6 Kate's Mate, which were where we slept. And I picked up some oranges to take off. Some of the sailors didn't pick up to take to my buddy in Sick Bay. Anyway, I walked back to my locker in the bakery passageway and got something and I went back out on the folks' deck and the port side and some sailors were hollering and pointing toward the Fort Island so I went to have a look and about that time one of the planes made a turn and I could see the big orange wing spots and right away I knew it was Japanese. Interrupt this program to bring you a special news pollute. The Japanese have attacked Pearl Harbor, Hawaii by air. President Roosevelt has just announced. The attack also was made on all naval and military activities on the principal island of Ohio. I started from my battle station which was what they called SkyCatrule platform was about seven decks up on the foremost. I was actually at my battle station before the General Quarters sounded but they started bombing runs and whatever and they were die bombing us and they were torpedo bombing us from IA landing and over toward the sub base coming in and we were right in direct line with West Virginia and Oklahoma. So we started firing at the high altitude bombers and we could see our shells bursting before they got to the planes so we caught a couple of bombs after the deck of the Arizona and one bounced off the top of one of the numbered four turrets I think and went in the water and one went clear through the after hole there and then we caught the big bomb right behind number two turret on the starboard side right in the magazines and a million pounds of ammunition exploded.  It was just tremendous explosion and it blowed like 120 foot of the bow of the ship from there clear off. It blowed number one turret up in the air and it came back down. It's still there to this day. We were trying to just sell preservation there because we were getting burnt all the hell. We knew that we were trying to just move around inside the director. We had a little protection there because we were inside but it was just so hot and whatever just terrible and after the fire kind of went down and the sea breeze blow the smoke and stuff away where we got out on the deck and the deck was just so hot you couldn't hardly stand on it and we couldn't sit down and we couldn't do anything. We were trying to get away to get off there and noticed a gentleman on the vessel on the after deck and got his attention and he throwed us a heaving line which is a lead line on a smaller line and tied off a heavier line and we pulled it across and tied it off on the Arizona and proceeded to go hand in hand across that line. There was only six of us going across that line I think but they finally got us in a shore boat and took us to the dock and took us in an open air truck to the hospital which was a terrible mess. So many casualties there that you couldn't imagine and you couldn't imagine the turmoil. They all done their job to tell you and they saved a lot of lives. I like to go and pay my respects and I look at the room there where all the names are and think about a lot of pictures that come into my mind of my shipmates and whatever and say a little prayer for them and thank the God that I'm still here.


What's up guys, this is Alex from Xtrades back to you with another weekly trade ideas list and Last week, I mean just an amazing week on the market. We had a great watch list If this is your first time tuning in, please Like comment subscribe to our extra YouTube channel. I'm trying to get stuff to hit the algorithm a little bit more So if you could do that, that'd be great And maybe even go review the last watch list we had See if you can get some educational value out of it because we had some great setups And caught a lot of upside this week on the market. So Should make another interesting week on the stock market this week Went crazy last week. So Let's go ahead and get into our first setup here This is ticker symbol Q com. So it's Qualcomm Setups pretty obvious, right? You got test number one test number two Test number three now breaking out to the upside. You got two confirmed candles outside the downtrend break So this could be given a little run up to the upside here It probably be a little short term though We got a supply zone right there. So it could make it a little bit riskier for calls, but If you wanted to you could also get time on your contracts But I think this would make a good day trade short term. I'm just trade up to the supply sell it supply If you really want to get time on your contracts, you can hold pass supply You could deal with any resistance that way because you have time, you know to expiration But on the setup seems pretty obvious Breaking out trade up to supply. You got positive MACD RSI is crossing back over 40. So You do have some of the positive momentum here. You also have it clearing the 50 EMA On the daily time for him. So that could be good Yeah, so it was like a cause on this this week And I'll go ahead and get into our next setup here and This week, you know, there's it's a mixed bag, right? There's a couple setups that are given two opportunities They're tricking calls and puts but we'll go ahead and get into those so Microsoft This is actually only a put setup that I want to look at and it's really only for a day trade. So you can see Microsoft finally filled this gap, right? from its last earnings report Go ahead and add this gap real quick So, yeah, so I filled filled the gaps a little golden zone you see here And once it fills, I mean a lot of stocks will start seeing it get resistance, right? And not to only mention that it's running into supply here. So We'll draw a little thing. You probably see resistance about here Maybe come back down test that little gap resistance right there. Maybe try to curl up there or something But um, I think this will just make a quick good day trade Assuming you can get the confirmation of a rejection Because you do have two things working against you here You do have a positive MACD showing positive momentum And you also have a clear in the daily 50 EMA. So Yeah, just something to something to keep an eye on Um, obviously this would be invalid if we went over supply So if it's something like that They probably try to like curl up about there after making a base off them, you know, old resistance But yeah So just wait for confirmation, of course, you'd want to see the morning opening up with, you know, selling or Um, just confirmation that it's not clear in supply yet. You do have a couple things working against you Like I said the MACD um, the 50 EMA and also vix Volatility is low. So Just something to keep in mind. But um, yeah, so we're looking at puts on that qualcomm. We're looking at calls Microsoft looking at puts And there's a couple other that are kind of a mixed bag also So this way you're really want to especially wait for confirmation showing you that you should take setups because You are getting mixed results By some of these setups and as well I was getting, you know, mixed signals from the market So next we're going to PayPal and you'll see what I see What I mean in this setup here. So we got test one test two. There's a third Um, almost a test four will pretty much count that as a test for now coming up for a fifth test at this downtrend line Um, you'd be looking for A little bit of resistance here. Maybe um, you'd want to see it confirmed under by open Um, otherwise If it opens over it Is it going to have backup to supply more than likely So I'm going to be looking at calls and puts on this Not just puts. Um, because it's at the downtrend. I'm going to be looking, you know, at calls too, maybe But like I said, we want to see an opening outside or opening inside. Um That's going to be the deal breaker and you don't want to just rush into it You know and take a wild guess. You do have a little resistance right here Oops, I accidentally added an extra once you get a little resistance right here If they stay up under 91 34 That's another good confirmation that I could see a little downside Head back to this 50 EMA maybe um So yeah, it'd probably just be a note a little day trade. Um, if you could get the confirmation of either Swing trade just get time on expiration per usual Um And you know, if you did take calls to the upside for a swing trade, you're not really that overbought on the RSI yet You just got a positive MACD signal. So that could be getting early signs of upside Um, it just depends. So puts maybe look at quick day trades if you get confirmation Calls, you can maybe put up with a little bit longer to the upside. Um, to the end of the year Um, we'll just have to see Um price targets for puts You just be looking at the 50 EMA Um price digger for calls short-term you'd be looking at the supply right here or you know maximum You know 95 57 at the top of this resistance So, yeah, uh mix bag two setups Potential setups calls or puts just wait for confirmation Okay, UPST is upstart holdings. Um, they do like, you know loans and stuff for um, you know, just regular consumers But you can see pulling up to the downtrend line here. We got test one test two test three Um, also have the 50 EMA in the way. You got a negative MACD signal RSI is crossing over 40 so that could be given a early sign for positive momentum But we'll have to see So same thing as um paypal You want to see it open up under the downtrend line confirming resistance For puts or you want to see it opening over or you know, at least attempting to and it could run up, you know Back to this little here. We'll add this little peak First, so yeah, if it broke out you can see it, um, running up to that little peak Maybe reject about there if I can get through that You know it held up to the next supply Something like that Um downside It's pretty obvious.  They had a pretty bad earning. So, um You had to wait for confirmation on this Um, you can see it's not clear the daily 50 EMA. So this could have a little bit harder time I'm getting positive momentum But if it can get the breakout and over the 50 EMA that gives you really good confirmation to 2610 and also supply So you got calls and puts on this too Just wait same with paypal. So these are two like more decision trades Um You're going to be waiting, you know to pick a direction obviously Microsoft um more clear at supply Um, it could make a good, you know, quick day trade off supply q-com a quick day trade Um on the breakout up to supply also Next I'll go into IWM So I usually just track track this, you know, it's like, you know, an overall market indicator But I do like trading it sometimes too I'm same with qqq and spy Um, really any of the ETFs that have good liquidity on the options. I like trading. So With IWM here You can see we had a great breakout. I mean a couple weeks ago Um, finally pulling up to supply. So this is a rally-based drop supply zone Um, you also have 200 EMA resistance And you have the 61.8 percent Fibonacci retracement level right here. Um, and that could you know Call for clear resistance honestly with all three of these things and In confluence There's a pretty good chance that this can reject Um, if they got over obviously, you know, as such They probably try to make a base off that, you know, like I always preach Um, if it breaks over resistance, it'll pull back into over resistance make support and go higher. But um This little wick off supply kind of giving a clear signal. Maybe that Bulls, you know, maybe aren't as strong on this one at towards the end of the day I'm on friday, but Yeah, you just have to be careful also because of the, you know, the VIX is you know, pretty low Um, we do have the dollar giving us a little bit of signals. We'll we'll go into that in a little bit though But IWM so You do have a gap right here Pretty obvious. Um, that's from the cpi report Inflation did go down a little bit. Um, quote-unquote. So market rallied very heavily But IWM if it could reject you could maybe see it go back down fill the inbounds area Fill the gap try to make support and curl up about there um You know, that could take a little bit and Also, we're going to be going into the seasonality. You'll see why that may not happen um for the rest of the year But um, just something to consider this whole buy inbounds area can be easily filled back up Yeah, just um Just like all the other put setups this week, you want to always wait for confirmation to see confirmation of selling maybe around the open And um, yeah, just taking quick day trades. Maybe, you know, not overstaying your welcome due to volatility dropping And also due to inflation dropping a little bit. Um, makes makes bears, you know, a little bit more at risk So, yeah So q-com we're looking at calls microsoft puts Paypal UPST both waiting for confirmation for calls or puts since they're both at trend lines IWM would be looking strictly at puts just because of the three Think confluence. So you got supply you got 61.8 retracement and you have the daily 200 EMA So three areas of confluence that can turn the resistance Next we're going to go into the ESSMP 500 futures Let's go ahead and fix this up a little bit because it's a lot of resistance points So last week, let's see We were looking at this demand zone down here, right? Um, we said there was a chance if it held You know add this demand. So this is the same thing we're looking at last week I'm just kind of going over it with you again. Um, we we were about right here We had confirmation that it was holding we said if it did it could run back up to the downtrend line it did exactly that and broke out. So it had a total major breakout Created a couple near demand zones, which is good Got over the october peak and got over the resistance that we covered last sunday So just a crazy move from that inflation report You can see it's coming up to the daily 200 EMA, which is um, I mean that can act as resistance. You have to be careful You can see this is a huge sell inbounds candle. Um, it could fill back up eventually, but um, but the 200 EMA might just want to be careful And you'll see on the um Seasonality that you know, we could see a little bit of resistance maybe before going higher this week. So Um, if it does decide to reject 200 EMA You'd see it pull in probably try to make support off there before You know going up toward the next trend line from all-time highs Down to here So this is our major blue trend line. Um That's pretty much that covers the whole 2022 And um, you know all-time highs. So it's a pretty important one and eventually it will be tested So yeah, just um, maybe look for resistance this week If it can get over the 200 EMA, you can see it running up to supply in the downtrend line And uh, we'll go into seasonality real quick. So this is What is this? November 14th up to November 18th. So that's our trading week Um, you could see s&p is averaging a negative 33 return Um, nothing too big and you can see down here. It is a little dip So just something to keep in mind and remember this is not like something a totally a bye-bye. It's just, you know something to look back on Due to history and history does sometimes repeat itself. So And you saw last week, we we you know, we had about a about the same but in a positive return So we had about, you know, like a 0.3 return to the upside. We were able to get some upsides So I'd say we're following the seasonality pretty well. Um minus one week that I did cover You know, it actually did the opposite. So, you know, it's not always going to follow, but yep Next, we're going to enqueue the NASDAQ So, um, you know at one point we had that inverse head and shoulders Um, we invalidated it pretty much And now I'm sorry, we also had that downtrend line. We hadn't cleared it yet. We cleared it this week Um, and then we were just saying to wash this 52 week low and that it could, you know Base out down here to maybe go higher up to the trend line Um, it actually exceeded that, you know, by a pretty pretty pretty large percentage. So um You know, we can only that go off what's in front of us and at the time Down here, um, if it's making a base, we can really only guess up to the trend line until it clears it Well, now it's clearing it. It's also clearing this resistance. So now I want to do the same thing as the es You know, make a base off previous resistance To be able to go higher. Um, and you can see it's not even close to the 200 EMA like es is So this could still have a lot of upside Um, I'm not really seeing any clear signs for resistance on tech yet. Maybe this little supply area right here But we'll have to see Puts, like I said earlier, just going to want to maybe keep it You know at day trades Um, be really careful with swings. Maybe wait for vix to get to like 19 or something like that To play a meme regression back towards the average and we'll go over that in our next But yeah, so you can see it broke out that short-term line This is another big trend line that I would watch. Um, this is kind of like Similar to the one on es, but this is not the one from all-time high if we move this up Here to all-time high area um You know, it bring you up to there so eventually The nasdaq can see it, you know Come up to here and try to reject about there But yeah, so this is also the most hated rally peak. This was when um We were pretty much retraced 50 of our losses for 2022 and it pissed a lot of people off because It just didn't make any sense. Um, and that was when there's a lot of pivot rumors going around So, you know, we we can see that again now that we have a little bit of signs of inflation cooling down But that doesn't mean that the macro is looking great because it's really not yet You know one month of a report is not something to justify A bull run and um, you know all-time highs again, you know, it could be very far from that There's somebody to consider So yeah, just looking for it to base out on this old resistance. Maybe head back up to here if it can Um, obviously the whole market would need to move, you know in sync with that um Sometimes tech will outperform a little bit, you know, it will go a little bit higher than the other same with the dow Dow was going down negative 7 percent year to date. Um compared to a lot of other things. That's seriously like that's a win Um, so yeah, just something to keep in mind Vicks All right, so first let's get into the data and then we'll go over a little bit We'll be went over last week and what to look for this week See if I can get it up here All right after friday's close on 11 11 make a wish We had 22 53 is a close Um, this brought our average down to 26 20. I believe last Sunday was like 26 26 or some 26 25 Somewhere around those so it did drop Um, and that's because of the multiple closes under it obviously So yeah, so we have a 26 20 average close for the year 2022 um We can see it actually it pulled back up to it Which is really interesting and then literally rejected right off the area in this little 200 EMA So clear medium line clear area of resistance and it's also, you know A media line or you know something that it will regress back towards and it can act as resistance. It can act as support Um, because it is an average price So yeah, last week we said look for it to fall It did fall Look for 22 64 it hit 22 64. So now Um, I did close under that. Maybe we could see it try to hold up this level a little bit um depending, you know How high the dollar wants to go you can see it's up a little bit but And if it wants to fall the seasonality, of course So it could base out here. Maybe try to go back up to the average me personally Um, eventually I do think it will fall down to the 19s And try to curl up there and that's where I'll look at, you know, longer dated put swings Stuff you can hold shorts overnight because volatility is cheap And um, because eventually it will Um go for a mean regression back to the average It'll do that for both sides. You saw, you know In one of our videos we had 35 Um from 35 we're looking for a mean regression back to the average. I did that now we wait for it to get about 19 And then it would come back up to the average So, yeah, just something to just watch this 22 64 level maybe look for it to base out Volatility to come up a little bit Um, and also look for it to maybe fall to 19 19s or 20s or so Um, you know, if the dollar could stay You know down and um yields can stay down and stuff like that bonds bounce We could see volatility come back down some more But I'm not sure I'll be looking for this 19 level this week Um, I don't think I'm really expecting too large of moves in the market We might have to see some resistance and make a base and structure To go higher first. Um, and that's kind of what I'm aiming to look for Next the dollar So the u.s dollar um We were looking for this 109 area to hold for bears. It failed to do that um And also broke under a longer term trend line, which is just amazing because we've been covering this, you know for a while now And you know, I said once it gets under this trend line, you know, bulls will come out and they they certainly did so We definitely want to see it staying under this Um, we can see maybe fall as low as 104s You can see down here Um, there's that 104 63 level right here And um, there's also the daily 200 EMA so I could probably try to curl up about there I'm guessing that's where currency traders would, you know, maybe start looking for it to reverse Um, just do the technicals and you know, moving averages are, you know, a very old school and very reliable Um, area to look at, you know, stuff to turn around at and even reject Like an active resistance too So, yeah, I look for it to fall a little bit more maybe Oops Look for it to fall a little bit more maybe um down to 104 Something like that, or you can see it make a base off the 200 Before going back up to 107 And rejecting that there and we're just using that previous Area as a price target if it if it decided about and our downside target. We're using that spit it right here So, yeah You can see the magnity is holding a negative signal Um, so we got plenty of negative momentum still our size getting a little low Um, that's a little bit concerning because it could bounce from that But we'll have to see Also, we can do is You know, look at what's in front of us and you know, make an educated guess So it's all trading is waiting for something to hold waiting for something to break waiting for something to break out Um, that's all it is. Um, that's all technical analysis and charting is Um, so I hope you guys enjoyed this video Please make sure to like comment and subscribe to our x-trades youtube channel And i'm gonna go ahead and end this and get this video up for y'all get the watch list and all that good stuff But yeah, y'all have a blessed sunday. Thank you