Live, it's a nine o'clock clock on a given Wednesday. I'm Jay Fidel, this is Think Tech, and more specifically, this is Community Matters, with Steve Ohm, he's a candidate for prosecuting attorney for the city and county of Honolulu. Good morning, Steve, thanks for coming on the show. Hey, good morning, Jay, good to be here. So to follow our discussion before we began, you know, I feel this is a very important office and I feel that it has a lot to do without future, especially under the pressure of COVID and, you know, the diminution of our economy and so forth. And then of course you bring, you find yourself with baggage from the KLOF scandal and maybe in the prosecutor's office itself. I mean, there's so many challenges, there's so much baggage to deal with. Why in the world do you want this office, you know? Well, my wife and I both started there. So we care about the people, we care about the institution, we know how important it is. So I do feel a sense of obligation, you know, to go back, clean it up, train the deputies, bring in some good people and maybe make it the best office it's ever been. Oh wow, how do you do that? I mean, what specifically is, you know, lacking now and how do you fix that? Okay, well, I think the election really is all about restoring trust to that office. That's what people tell me all around the island when I go talking. And I first wanna thank all the voters in the primary because I was gratified and humbled with that result. I won all the districts island wide from Waianae to, you know, Hawaii Kai from Pearl City to Kanioa. And I think it reinforces that they want a proven leader to get back in there, straighten it out and get things back to the way they ought to be. So there are many things that need to be done. I think you have to make sure you go in and create a culture of high ethical standards, essentially of doing justice, not just winning cases. It means training the deputy prosecutors so they are as ethical as can be and as skilled as they can be. So you can negotiate plea agreements from strength, you can win more cases. We have to certainly look at anything Kathy K. Loa had done, any of the cases she touched, make sure there's nothing wrong there. Or if it is, we'll take appropriate action up to and including dismissing cases. It means being a full partner with all the other law enforcement entities. The attorney general, the US attorney working closely with HPD because they're your main partner in doing so many things. And they all have to be done at the same time. But it also means bringing in good supervisors who have a good moral compass. You don't want to micromanage people so you want to hire good people and have them do their jobs. And I think I have a good history of getting good supervisors under me because I've done this before when I was at the prosecutor's office before I was first as felony team captain. You know, when you always get offers to go into private practice and civil and make more money or become a criminal defense attorney, make more money. But I was committed to that, you know to the prosecutor's office. And so I was a felony team captain. Then I was head of district and family court when the deputies first joined the office. So I had Loretta Sheehan. I had Ron, now Judge Johnson, Tom Brady, Kevin Takata helped. You know, we made it into a trials division and I had the deputies in their suits at eight o'clock on Saturday morning after being in court all week over in district court to learn how to pick a jury, how to do opening statements, how to do direct exam, cross exam. You know what it takes. You don't learn that stuff in law school. You've got to actually learn it on the job and we did it together. So, you know, my parents taught my older brother Robbie and me to be respectful of everybody, be, you know, courteous to everybody, but also that nobody gets anything done by themselves, right? It's, it takes a team, it takes a group. Has the, I mean, I don't know about how it is now or even, you know, in view of the Kathy and KLOI issue, has the prosecutor's office ever gone political?  No, I mean, it's, it was very strong from a trial attorney standpoint when I first joined it back when Charles Marsden was prosecutor. I remember. The focus there was going after organized crime and he had a personal reason with his son and that was important. But I think what I can bring to it is when I was your attorney, I made getting the federal agencies working together and then working with the Honolulu Police Department my number one goal, because they each bring something to the table, whether it's expertise, wiretap capability, maybe certain funding, but HPD is on the street every day, they've got the snitches, people trust them, they've passed them information. It was horrible to see the criminal investigative unit get dragged through the mud, you know, with KLOI because when I was your attorney, they were a great group. And that's, you know, how we got started investigating Gary Rodriguez, the head of the United Public Workers because somebody from that unit called us up and said, hey, I've got some information, I wanna pass it on to you and help you hear about it. And because they trusted us to do the job, take the time to do a good investigation and keep our mouths shut. And it took three years to do that investigation. Well, speaking of organized crime for a moment, you know, the miski case has really disturbed a lot of people. I can tell you it's disturbed me, I always felt it, whatever Hawaii was, it wasn't that. And we've had other incidents that I felt named Rothman years ago. And, you know, there are people who, you know, could be characterized as organized crime, but miski murder for hire, that's very, very troubling. And I wonder what your reaction is to that, to the extent that you can speak about it. Now, what is your reaction to that? Are you as offended as I am by what can be done about it? We can't tolerate that in this community. Absolutely. And there have been organized crime cases before. Certainly when, you know, Marslyn was active then, you had different ethnic groups running, different organized crime groups. And when I was US attorney, there was organized crime running, gambling and gambling goes often at the heart of this, right? Down in Chinatown, we did lots of cases, 32 defendants that way. And then sooner after I left, Tom Brady was the lead attorney in that polygolf course shooting that was very violent, was, you know, was murdered there, but it was fighting for control of gambling security operations. So what, like you said, what's been public reported in miski is disturbing in the miski case because it's been going on for a long time. And again, these kind of cases take years to investigate because usually law enforcement hears about it when it's been an ongoing operation. That's how you find out about it. And then you go back in time historically to see what you can put together, dots you can connect, are there wiretaps you can do, are there people, you know, who have been charged with other crimes who might want to be turning government witnesses. But it takes that kind of thing. The federal prosecutors and the Honolulu prosecutors shouldn't be doing the same cases in most of the time. It's not efficient. No, it's not. And the fed should be taking their time, looking at things, you know, organizations, things like that, not individual cases unless it's in the service of that kind of thing. But then getting the feds and HPD because I don't know anything more than you do about MISCII, but I guarantee you HPD has been involved in investigating. They're looking back at records. They're, you know, the feds are very good about making a paper trail in any case because as you know, in court, often witnesses either know somebody on one side or the other, jurors are often gonna, you know, take any testimony with a grain of salt. But if you have paper showing it, it's like the paper cases, the bank fraud and stuff against the KLO is, you know, our slam dunk because it's hard to fight a piece of paper. Yeah. Well, yeah, true. It is hard to fight a piece of paper. And moving from that to the issue of whether, you know, we have, we have physical crimes. We have classical criminal activity covered by criminal statutes and all that. And then we have white collar crimes, which are not classical crimes. And they're not property crimes directly. They're not physical force crimes. They're not, you know, the classical felonies. And I wonder how you feel about that. What's more important? I mean, in a way, that kind of white collar crime is corruption and it's at the core of our business community. And it has a very negative effect on the confidence of the people in the government to let it go on that everybody can cheat. So what are your thoughts about which one is more important? They're both important. And but like you say, it often gets treated and not quite as seriously. So when I was the US attorney, I liked the fact that the federal guidelines had white collar criminals going to prison as well. And I think in the state system, the judges have tremendous discretion about prison or probation, you know, in or out, that kind of thing. And often the white collar criminals, I think do get treated more leniently that way. When I was a judge, there were all these campaigns spending violations. And I would typically, you know, put engineers or lawyer into jail for like 10 days for this. And I was accused of being a till of the hunt with this, you know, because none of the other judges sent anybody to jail. And they said, well, this has been going on for a long time. It's like, yeah, you didn't invent this, but you kept this corrupt system going. And so when you read reports about, you know, even allegations about the postmaster had employees make donations and then get bonuses. That was exactly what we had cases here all about. You know, the corporation would pay people back if they would donate money. And it's the same kind of thing.  Or attack somebody on the street. But if they're looking at cheating on the system, whether it's campaign donations, other white collar fraud schemes, they are thinking through this. And that's why when I was U.S. Attorney, and then when I was a judge, I would treat those cases very seriously. As a judge, there was a guy named Tim Janis who was a disbarred lawyer and CPA. He had been convicted in federal court on the mainland of ripping off elderly clients. He came here and at the time, the Salvation Army didn't do a background check for that kind of crime. They did it for people working with little kids. Well, he got placed in charge of planned giving. And so he did the same scams here. And when he came in front of me and he was convicted, I gave him 30 years in prison.  Because there are people that are praying on other people and they're not the most common ones. But when you catch them, you wanna really hammer them. And part of that is to protect other people for the future. But part of that also is anybody thinking about doing that should realize if they get caught, there's gonna be a real price to pay. Yeah, speaking of senior citizens, I've seen a number of articles about how in the time of COVID, in the time of vulnerable senior citizens who can't fight back so easily, they become targets. And a lot of people do purse stealing and the like. The people who attack senior citizens, are they entitled to special consideration and sentencing because their victim was a senior citizen? Well, right now, there's already built into the law that if the person is older, the sentence can be stronger. I've resisted people asking how about sentences, make it against tourists, make it higher. And I've resisted that kind of thing. Every case is important. Some people won't remember it, but when I was U.S. Attorney, we had a purse snatching thing that was going on for a couple of years, there were hundreds of victims. Japanese tourists were being targeted. And it got so bad, the council general sent an open letter to the mayor saying, if this doesn't stop, I'm gonna tell the Japanese tourists not to visit Hawaii anymore. COVID aside, Hawaii tourism without Japanese tourists would be a disaster. But again, it was working, the U.S. Attorney's office, FBI, HPD, HPD had done a lot of investigative work. And we ended up getting the whole ring. I don't remember the star advertisers doing another editorial saying, in this case, we approve of harsh sentences because of the damage they caused. And I mean, literally, it was thousands of cars stolen because they parked one at Capilani Park and then cruise to Waikiki, a guy would reach out of the rear window and grab onto a woman's purse and drag her until she let go of it. Pelvises were broken, it was violent stuff. And it didn't care, they just didn't care about people. And so it was very fortunate, John Payton was the lead on working with that and the ringleader pled guilty and he caved and then everybody else did too. And I think people will take advantage of it now, but one thing as a judge, and if I become the next prosecutor, I'm the rare criminal justice person who looks at data and research to drive criminal justice policy. Because for too long, it's been an anecdote, it's been gut feeling, it's been, we've always done it this way. There's a better way to do things. So I actually looked at the numbers from HPD and in the last year, crime is down. It's actually down. I think it's because people are staying home some. There have been some horrendous examples. And if you're the one getting your purse stolen or you're the one getting assaulted, you're not gonna feel like crime is down at all. And I completely get that. But in this day of 24-7, cable news and people looking at the phone notifications when there's a crime, I think it can make, if you actually have a purse in the street, it's crime higher now than it was 10 years ago. I would bet you 90% will say it is. And crime has been dropping for the last 30 years. That's, there's certain neighborhoods of course that are gonna be higher. But if you look island wide or statewide, no question about it, whether it's violent crime, whether it's property crime, it has been dropping for 30 years. You know, you talk about public policy and it strikes me just in this conversation that either de facto or de jure, a prosecuting attorney does have a hand, if you will, in public policy. Because you can make choices about what you prosecute and what you don't. You can examine data about things that are troubling in the community and then come up with solutions to deal with the things that bother you. So can you comment on that for a minute, Steve? And tell us what your thought is about public policy and what your thought is about lobbying. Peter Karla used to go to the legislature every year seeking changes to tune up the power of the prosecuting attorney. And in many ways he was successful. But what are your thoughts about public policy and the job? I think it's very important and I think people expect it and I've been in the system for a long time and you know, my opponents in this kind of race have tried to say always part of the old system. It's like, I have been against the status quo and trying to improve it from day one. In any job I've had, whether it was training deputies or HPD at the prosecutors, whether it was doing weed and seed. And if I get in, we're gonna do that again starting in Chinatown at Cali Palama. We reduced crime by 70% there, 7-0. And that changed the character of both neighborhoods. Back before that local people were afraid to park their cars there and walk around in Chinatown, it was too dangerous. Now, unfortunately it slipped back somewhat but we will get it straightened out again. But the prosecutor, either the Honolulu prosecutor by themselves or working together with the neighborhood prosecutor and the attorney general have a law enforcement coalition where they can take a package of bills up. And that changes, you know, you can help victims, you can make laws more effective. When I was, every 10 years, the legislature asked the judiciary to chair a review of the penal code. And first Chief Justice Moon asked me because to chair it, it's 29 members, right? All the prosecutors, defense counsel, OHA, the victims rights group, you know, it's a herding cats operation, right? But he asked me to do it in 2005 and then Chief Justice Recton will ask me to do it in 2015. We came up with 84 recommendations in 15 and two of them got rid of mandatory minimums for drug cases because we realized by this time that sending somebody to Halava prison, no, requiring a judge to send somebody to Halava prison for possession of a small amount of drugs after a couple of convictions, it does not make any sense. Again, research shows treatment for drug use is more effective in the community than it is behind bars because it's too artificial in the environment, behind bars. So I don't believe in policy and being part of that. Legislators wanna ask you questions. They wanna know if we support this bill that will increase funding for substance abuse, are you gonna say we're soft on crime? And I certainly won't. I mean, that's part of the solution. And understand this, I say this as the toughest sentence there in circuit court. I was the first career prosecutor to be appointed to circuit court in Honolulu ever. So I sent more people to prison. I sent more consecutive sentences but that was the really violent, dangerous ones. And that's probably 35% of defendants in sentencing but they should go to prison. That means the other 65% can and should be placed on probation and we have successful initiatives like drug court, mental health court, hope probation that can help people succeed. And when they succeed, that's good. That is good public safety policy too. You were involved in setting up, what was it, the drug court here in the first second? Say it again. Hope probation. Can you talk about it? Yeah, well, on regular probation, the probation officers maybe have 150 clients each. Hard to supervise. And if they wanted to bring them back to court, it was for a revocation of probation and to get the underlying five or 10 year prison sentence. And we have good POs. They're all social workers from UH. They care about their clients.  So I thought to myself, how did we raise our kid? How were we raised? And my guess is, if you did something wrong as a kid, your parents did something about it immediately. And that's how you tie together bad behavior with a constant. So something, I mean, that's simply the idea. So somebody shows up, test positive for drugs. These are instant tests. If they admit it, they get arrested on the spot. They go to the jail. We have a hearing two business days later.  But then they didn't come in and lie about it or worse yet run away. We're trying to do something very difficult here. We're trying to change people's thinking to change their behavior. If they test positive and deny it, it's possible it's a false positive. We set it to a lab for a gas chromatograph test. But if it comes back, they get 15 days in jail if it's positive. And we'll let them do it on five weekends if they're working. But again, we don't want them to lie about it. We don't want them to be in denial. If they run away and law enforcement asks to look for them, it's 30 days in jail. And if that happens repeatedly, they go to Halawa. The greatest thing about hope is how well it works. We had a randomized control trial study by Pepperdine and UCLA. Our state attorney general's office looked at it first and the results were great. But you know the line in court, an expert witness is a guy from out of town with a briefcase, right? So when Pepperdine and UCLA came, they did a randomized control trial study, 500 defendants, two thirds in hope, one third in probation as usual. And a year later, the people in hope had arrested for new crimes, 55% less often than the control group on regular probation. And they got sent to prison for 48% fewer days. In criminal justice, a 10% reduction of recidivism is caused for celebration, 50%, unbelievable. 33 states are doing versions of this. Unfortunately, as you know, trying to implement or replicate an idea from one place to another is extremely difficult. So some places are doing a well, getting good outcomes. Washington state is the best example. Some places have screwed this up, have only focused on the sanctions part without the other two legs of it, the probation officers and the judges. But the results have been wonderful. But it strikes me that this, you know, you talked about collaboration among various law enforcement agencies and a kind of team arrangement. Probation officers, probation officers are part of the civil service. They may or may not be effective human beings, I'm sorry to say. They may meet your expectations and do the job and implement a program like this well, or maybe some of them don't. How do you make sure that the probation officers that are responsible for implementing a program like this are the right ones? Well, part of it is leadership in the probation department. So the first unit we started with was the high-risk unit. Any sex offender not sent to prison, put on probation, is in that unit. And also people that are failing at probation on regular probation and maybe getting a revocation to go to prison, they get transferred to that unit. And so Shirley Noy was head of it.   You've gotta violate them every single time when they do this. That's how it's gonna have credibility. And that's how it started. And it was just one judge at the beginning. So I was very consistent. Cause my whole view of discretion has changed through this process because for a defendant, if he and his friend both smoke meth and go into the office and are both testing positive, if they're not treated the same way, they think that is unfair. That's arbitrary, the PO is prejudice. One may not agree, oh, it's my 10th time and the other, it's only a second time. But that's the, so what we did in hope is the sanctions are required. The POs do not have discretion on that anymore. And I was very consistent as a judge.  And that goes the same way as teaching your kids follow the rules. The sanctions are known in advance, but this suggests maybe sentencing guidelines on certain sentences for certain crimes and certain repetitions. Do we have that? Do you support that? Well, that's why when I was chairing the Penal Code Review Committee, we got rid of the mandatory minimums. Exactly what you said. We had what was called a methamphetamine trafficking case. You know, I mean statute because this started when meth exploded on the scene here, people were scared that meth was gonna tear our entire society apart and it's done a lot of damage, no question. But what was required was if you sell any amount of meth and the case because we had all these defense attorneys and prosecutors and judges, there were seven judges on this as well, including five of them were former prosecutors. The only cases we'd see in state court were a guy selling, usually a guy, a $20 bag of meth to an undercover police officer because a business owner saw a guy selling in front of his property and called HPD and said, can you get rid of this guy? Well, that kind of case, we would have to give the guy a 10-year prison test. No exceptions because he was selling meth. You'd be in favor of giving the judge more discretion. Right. And so what we did was we put meth with the other drugs and so the judge can either give him the 10 years in prison for selling drugs or put him on probation. And same thing with possession of a small amount of drugs. In the past, he was part of repeat offender. Many people had to go to prison. Now we made it probationable. So just in the last few years, hundreds of people have been given a chance on probation. And I can tell you anybody selling a $20 bag of meth, almost by definition is a user who's selling some to feed his own habit. A couple of other things, Steve. One is with all of this with the policy and the management and the public issues. Do you see yourself actually prosecuting cases? I remember Peter Carlaw, I'm familiar with that, did not prosecute cases generally.  He prosecuted that because it was high level. I guess he thought it was good for the job. What about you? Do you see yourself prosecuting cases as the prosecutor? I don't see myself doing that. I've done a lot of that. I did five murder cases when I was at the prosecutors. As a judge, I presided at over 200, making sure there was no prosecutor or misconduct. So I will be actively involved with training the deputies. But that's like the police chief does not go and investigate the burglar. I mean, I'm sure she could do a good job at it or chase somebody down the street. But she should be meeting with the Honolulu prosecutor. She should be talking to the troops. She should be meeting with the head of the FBI. And doing trials is fun, we have great, you really enjoy it, it's all consuming. But I have to say the tendency is gonna be, it's gonna have outsize importance whether you win or lose too. So you tend to pick cases you know you're gonna win. And in that case, there are a lot of other deputy prosecutors who should be able to do those cases. I am gonna be so busy trying to get weed and seeds started in Chinatown and Kalihi, meeting with Chief Ballard, meeting with Mark Rectonwald, who I used to work with, he's the Chief Justice at the U.S. Attorney's Office. There's so many parts to the job. It would be fun to do trials again, but I just don't see that. There's so much else that needs to be done. Yeah, and as I was telling you before the show began, I mean, I think you're gonna have more work depending on who's elected president and how we do on COVID. You're gonna have more domestic violence and all that, which the prosecutor will have to deal with that. But let me ask you this.  That's the way it is. And I would like to ask you, what's the difference? And don't tell me it's a gender difference. What's the difference between you and your opposing candidate? Well, I think a lot of it is, I have a proven record of leadership. I was a team captain, a division head. I ran the U.S. Attorney's Office. As a judge, I saw the entire system. I wasn't an advocate on one side or the other. I saw the whole system. So I have led a team of prosecutors. And I, no offense, I don't think Ms. Kao has ever supervised anybody. So the learning curve of how to learn, how to be a supervisor, let alone discovering whether you can be an effective leader or not is something people don't have to worry about with me. They know I've been an effective leader. I've led other prosecutors. And with programs like Weed and Seed, we have actually reduced crime. And people would love to see that again. And it expanded from Kalihi in Chinatown to the Alamoata area. And it should go to other communities after that. It's a good strategy of new law enforcement, a different way of doing things. I'm gonna be open to any new innovative ideas, but I'm also gonna try to do stuff that has been proven to work. So I think that's the biggest. And I think the results of the primary show that they, to bring trust back to that office, you need proven leadership. And I offered that and I can do that. I've committed to it. I have a lot of energy. I'll bring in good supervisors with me and we will get the job done. All right, Steve, we have a question. Let me take a moment. Oh, wow, this is a long question. I'll try to make it short from a viewer. So I work in the community and I have heard exactly what you said about locals feeling crime is worse now than ever. One client witnessed a police officer letting a mugger go in Waikiki last year. He said the reason was he didn't wanna be tied up in court if he arrested him. How do you propose to change the outlook where an officer is deferred from making an arrest because of potential negative consequences? There's an interesting question. So what do you say to that, Joe or Steve? Well, I would say if the guy was a mugger and it actually committed a crime, that officer should be fired. You know, and I have been training the officers at the police academy for 20 years about what, depending on what my job was, I go and talk about that. Well, this will be a part of it too. And I think what the police have done to their credit during this COVID crisis is when it's appropriate issue citations instead of making an arrest. Or if they can defer an arrest, if it's not gonna threaten public safety, then they do that. And so they have slowed the intake of prisoners into OCCC. And I think that's been part of the success about why they were able to reduce the numbers in there. But if somebody has committed a violent crime, there is no excuse for them not getting arrested. So I don't understand that. I think Chief Ballard would join me. I think Schopo would join me that an officer like that, if that was actually happening, should not be on the force. And should be disciplined immediately. Okay, Steve, I'm so nice to talk to you. There are many, many other questions. I wish we had more time. Good luck on the balance of the campaign. And we'll talk to you soon, one way or the other. Thank you so much, Steve. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Stay safe.


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As our number of elections continue today, candidates are hopeful as exercise comes to a close. And Judge claims two Nigerian banks should be indicted in main-ass pensions fraud. This is Post-Politics, I am Mary Anacorn. The all-progressive Congress and the People's Democratic Party have expressed optimism about the up-turning of the expected victory of the candidates of the all-progressive Grand Alliance, Professor Chukomah Soludo, in the Anambra State Governorate polls held on Saturday. Now the two parties said if certain anomalies in the polls were corrected, they would emerge victorious in the end. Well, joining us to discuss this are legal practitioners Mekanwadioke and Program Officer Yaga Afrika Gabriel-Prince. Thank you very much gentlemen for joining us. Thank you very much. Great.  So far so good. The elections were smooth in different parts of Anambra State but of course in Hiala it did not necessarily hold because of issues such as insecurity and violence and we could see what happened today. It took a while for the elections to start but then it has come to an end and we're waiting for 9 p.m. for coalition. But let's take a wider look at the elections in Anambra State even before Saturday. Okay, thank you so much. It's just like you said, I've been in Anambra at least like my 4th week running. So I've actually worked the elections and the preparation of the looks. I can assure you that the run up to the election was quite a feisty one especially because of the issue of insecurity. So in this situation we are because of the threats and the threat of lockdown. Especially the one that was to commence on the eve of the election. There was a lot of anxiety and in fact I was running the streets of, you know, on the eve of the election and you can't even see a soul on the streets. So there was that anticipation that probably people will not turn up for the election. But I guess the deal that was broke out with iPops, you know, helped greatly to push things to the positive side and we must really at this point give credit to Enzo Komuna, you know, which facilitated that deal that was broke out by the traditional rulers and the council of bishops and ad bishops. That's why even when I saw the statement saying that the governors were the ones that broke out the deal, I almost laughed because that's definitely far from the truth because we are from Enzo Komuna, we are in the thick of it and we know what really happened. But that's by the way. So essentially with the insecurity issue out of the way, so to speak, the ground was really set for people to come out and exercise their franchise. You know, and I can assure you that the turnout was massive, the turnout was really massive and people were very excited. Because I was in Anambara and many commentators had said that, well, they commended the Anambarians for coming out this many to vote because of what had transpired leading up to the elections. But there's also been a trend in Anambara in terms of the number of people that show out to vote or the percentage of people who show out to vote on a normal day. And this wasn't anything really different from what has been before now. So really, was it a massive show up? Yes, just like you said, the Anambara has traditionally had no turnout, so to speak, usually over and below, probably 20, 25 percent. Of course, I'm not sure it's equally entirely different from what obtains nationwide. It's just typical of the issue of voter party, which also has to do with the confidence people impose in the electoral process. But and also the the incidents of rigging. Sometimes people feel whether I vote or I don't vote, it doesn't really count. So why should I bother myself? But I think that, you know, we can begin to see substantial change, especially with this incidence of electronic transmission of results.  I definitely see that that's going to improve. But you know also that this is the first time we are trying electronic voting with Anambara, you know, in Anambara state. So I believe that going forward, this will help a lot in pushing the numbers as regards dealing with voter party, which is actually a national issue. Okay. Let me come to Gabriel Prince. Gabriel, you're of Yaga and Yaga also was part of the situation room and part of the observers at the Anambara elections, including the one that has happened today. But from a Yaga perspective, what has been your major deduction from this election in Anambara? Okay, prior to the election, there has always been a concern about security. And security, people were really scared on how to come out on votes. And people are really showing concern because it also affects our deployment at some point, whereby our observers are declining at that minute due to security or threat by any members of the community that election would not hold us was declined by the claim by the iPod members. So that also works due to kind of contingency plan that we have to be able to embrace that part to get other observers that will be able to mark our ability. But that not the standard. Prior to any election, mostly we will focus on that even in a do and own do. A lot of security challenges do pop up now is the pre-election phase, right? But when it comes to the actual election, definitely you will see that teams pack down and then election will go down as smooth. And you're wondering that, uh-uh, prior to this election, people are raising concern about security. But that being said, the Anambara has tried their possible best to see that even in the midst of the security challenge, they come out to come and cast their vote, which just we estimated based on our projection, we say that voter turnout is going to be between 10.2% to 12.8%. Yeah, Gabriel, just hold that thought. If you can hear me, Gabriel, can you turn down the volume of whatever, because we're hearing feedback. I don't know if it's a television or a radio, but we're hearing feedback. So if you can turn it down, that way we can hear you better. Okay, okay, okay. Thank you. Thank you for that. We are doing that right now. All right, good. Go ahead. Yeah, so also raise a lot of concern in the cases where people are thinking that nobody will even come out on election day to come and vote. But Anambara has tried to prove most people wrong, whereby we even have like reasonable number of registered voters that came out to cast their votes, which lead to the total vote cast that we have to be. And another issue again, we also see some issue of late deployment of an INEG staff and also the BVAS machine, which was deployed. Remember in Isoko, not INEG pilots, this BVAS machine, they experienced little or no challenge during that period due to the minimum number of polling units and the number of people that comes out to participate in that election. But looking at Anambara, Anambara is a bigger state and half a point number of population when it comes to voters. And then trying to deploy that technology, definitely they encountered a lot of challenges. We have like over 45% of the polling units. Yeah, we have the BVAS machine malfunctioning here. We also have the malfunction but fixed in just like five polling units, where in some polling units like 3% of the polling units we upset. Nobody, the machine malfunctioned and the INEG officials were not able to replace it on time, which lead to the suspension of the election. So putting all this together, we see that the election definitely comes with challenge, with INEG to work more harder on it and see how they can be able to improve on the BVAS machine. Looking at we have like two, we have up by two, we have equity, ocean and off-circle election that is coming on. And I believe by then INEG could be able to improve their system, upgrade it and be able to fix all challenges by the experience in Anambara come 2023. I'm curious Gabriel, do you also think that maybe the reason why INEG encountered so many problems as they prepared for this election, that maybe this could be tied to the fact that there was insecurity? Don't forget that some core members had pulled out and these are people who had been prepared for these elections, they had been trained but then they pulled out last minute. Don't forget INEG also had issues with the transporters. So if we're saying that INEG is getting ready for Shoa, Kiti and Ondo, can we say maybe INEG may not necessarily have to deal with the kind of things that they dealt with in Anambara, maybe it would help them get better or do you think that this is an INEG problem that needs to be fixed now, especially when we're also being optimistic about the electronic transmission of results? Is this something that is within INEG's reach? Okay, come to look at this. The issue in the South is a peculiar issue, right? And when you go down to the West where you have the equity and on ocean, which is coming up next year, now we are not expecting for an issue of high rate of like security and threats to the Nigerian southern tree in that part of our country and which we are hopeful that we will not have any other security challenge that we will be able to in the INEG from executing their primary responsibility. But notwithstanding people, you know they say safety first and safety is always paramount when it comes to any human survivor, right? So definitely it also affects the dropout of with all of some co-members which have been trained already to go and handle this machine, but they would do at the time it also affects INEG and deployment. So in terms of logistics and also the road transport, but I also have to comment on the road transport because they showed a lot of bravery in terms of deploying INEG staff to various locations and the deployment of security officials from different parts of the country by the police and the joint task force, which really help and provide safe haven. And if you look at it, that was even the reason why election was not able to conduct in Giala and some part of some part of the due to their high areas that they were. Prior to the election in Giala, there was a report of an explosion and there was also a lot of report of gunshot and killings in the state. So it quite unwise for INEG to say that they will deploy their staff in the kind of volatile area, even being prompt in what I've been informed about the security intelligence that is maybe security intelligence and how they should be able to conduct theirself there. And for now that ELA will be conducted today and still yet you see that definitely they have to channel their energy, their security and get their best staff to deploy to that particular local government so that election will be able to go down smoothly here. So security is always a problem and definitely INEG, they really tried, they could have to commit INEG in this aspect. There are highly blasts and also security agents that are there to help to secure the INEG staff and also the voters as well. It's a three-laydown, a great deal. Okay, let me come back to by Samadier Kay. When I started the conversation I did say that the other candidates from the other political parties aside from APCA are a bit hopeful that ELA will be a game changer. It will be, you know, in fact both Valentino Zibu and of course Andiubar is hoping that they will get victory by the time these results are announced. We're not here to pre-empt the results but then we know that ELA has 148,000 registered voters, but again you and I just quickly talked about the percentage of people who show up to vote. So can we examine why these candidates are so hopeful about ELA even when we know that 148,000 voters will not necessarily show up to the polls? Yes, you're quite right because if we go by the percentage that we've been getting traditionally, it would be a tough call to get maybe even 30 percent of the registered voters, which is just like you said about 148,000. And even if you get that, presently APCA is leading by about, is leading the next challenger Mr. Zibu with about 52,000 votes. So it will be quite a tough one really for any of these candidates to best APCA because again at any rate you know that APCA would also be just holding their hands. They will also be in the game just like they've been in the other local governments. So it's going to be quite tough for any of these other people to not candidates to offstage APCA even though from the fillers we are getting there, we understand that even the YPP candidate Senators, if Anye Uba is doing quite well in the election, maybe best in some of the other candidates. So it's definitely going to be too close to call, especially for the other candidates as regards offstaging APCA. But the election for now is done and dusted as regards voting. So we'll probably see what's going to happen in the next few hours. Let's talk about the incident that happened today, the gunshots and the you know face off between soldiers and iPod members. We have seen the election go smoothly in almost every area of the state. Why Igheela? Why a sudden surfacing of the so-called gunmen trying to scuttle the electoral process? Do you have any idea why this would be? I must say it's my knowledge is restricted to what I've read online. And so I wasn't able to hear that today. So but to that extent, what I can also tell you since you mentioned the iPod is that I'll be extremely reluctant to think that this is these are iPod members, you know, I'll be extremely reluctant because I know it from excellent authority that, you know, the highest command in iPod, you know, decided that this this election should go ahead. And in fact declared that anyone trying to do otherwise would be declared as a saboteur. So I doubt that this is this is an iPod. So you're telling me so you're telling me that contrary to what the papers are reporting or what media or whatever information that was given to the media, you're telling me that these are not necessarily iPod members that these could be caricatures or people who are trying to give iPod a bad name? Possibly people who are trying to give iPod a bad name, possibly even candidates who may think that they may gain advantage by, you know, commenting violence. But I'm iPod, I extremely doubt it. I extremely doubt it. I know that iPod was totally committed to this process going ahead. So I don't I don't blame this on iPod or even ESF. I would think that someone is trying to gain advantage of political. Okay, back to you Gabriel. A lot of people have said that they experienced some level of vote buying during the whole process in different parts of the state. In my polling units, I did see a little bit of that in the guise of trying to give voters some food and water. Money was exchanging hands. And one would hope that in a situation like this, especially that we are in 2021 and hoping for free fair and credible elections, that this would somewhat be played down on. But tell me what you as Yaga experience in terms of vote buying. Gabriel, can you hear me? Gabriel, are you there? Can you hear me? I think we lost that connection with Gabriel. So I'm going to come back to you by somewhat okay. So did you experience any form of vote buying? Did you see with your eyes or did you hear where they we saw a couple of videos that made made it to the internet. But while you were there, did you experience any actual polling unit? Yes, I can I can assure you that there was massive incidents of vote buying because on this this this is quite this was quite predominant. And honestly, you would think it was more like a bazaar, you know, and even some level of haggling. So a vote of prospective voter, a voter comes and maybe it is this is conversed by one one party and it's like how much are you offering? And if it's 2k or 1k, he will he will probably walk around and ask the other party or be conversed by the other party. So at the end of the day, he or she goes for the highest bidder. So this was massive. And in fact, a lot of a lot of incidences, it wasn't even only a lot of a lot of things we actually thrown out at voters. You see a situation where some party actually was sharing clothes or wrappers, you know, and of course this would be an election day. This was happening on election day. Was this happening? Certainly. It wasn't even it was at the polling it was at the polling unit.  So of course, if you have another party that is offering maybe only 1000, that party is certainly disadvantaged. And actually we have hard cases of parties offering as much as 10,000, 5,000, you know, during the election. And of course food in fact, we had of instances where you know, a particular party will come in the morning, they say take 2000 go for breakfast, then you come back when you vote, you take another portion. And I think it was three layers.  And if you don't, I'm more curious, I'm more curious to the resilience of the unambra people because from what the feel as I got while I was in the field, that the average unambra person cannot be induced no matter how much money you pay, no matter how much money you seem to offer them, you cannot change their mind in terms of voting. The truth of my time is that yes, of course, people, some people may really be deeply committed to a particular party, you know. So to that extent, they may as well actually collect your money and still vote, they are conscious both on our vote, you know, but otherwise that thesis, that wasn't what I experienced during the election, especially most of the buyers were for the higher speed. All right, quickly before we wrap up, Gabriel is back with us. Gabriel, I was asking a question before we lost you that did you experience any form of voter buying, I beg your pardon, did you see any form of inducements at the different polling units that you visited? Because we're talking about how we can do a way with votes buying, especially on election day, we see all kinds of inducements, maybe campaign periods just before the election. But what we were really looking forward to three fair incredible elections in Anamba, did you experience any such? Okay, voter inducement is becoming a culture, therefore you can hardly go to a particular polling unit and say that you will not experience one or two forms of voter inducement, even though as even the employees at their commission and also security agency trying to deter people from engaging maybe other political parties or their agents and getting them maybe buying voters votes at that particular place. So voters and the political party agent, they try to devise another new means for voter inducement in just some of them feeling really that we went in, maybe we deployed our observers to go and observe. There are some form of new form of tactics that they normally deployed whereby even it's difficult for even observers to take note of that whereby they would draw, they would drag this potential voter aside and then tell him who to vote for, give him some sort of statement by aside and then later the person will come to the polling unit and go and cast his vote. So those kind of voters inducement is they get to be difficult to track again, it's difficult to track, if not maybe sometimes you may just say that okay let me go and take a peek and then you will then see somebody at the backyard of a classroom trying to give people money, maybe they will tell you that this is a person that I vote for. So those kind of things people, political parties or other agents, they are devising a lot of different means for voters inducement and the new methods, the new strategies when I was adopted also helps to reduce this form of voter inducement whereby you are not allowed to go to a particular polling, in order to go to the polling, the voting cubicle with your phone, a security agent will be beside there and tell you that okay if you have any phone with you, can you kindly give me, after you cast your vote, you drop it in the ballot box then you get it back. That has also plays a lot of role in terms of reducing the rate of voter inducement in the field. Wow, well gentlemen we are keeping our fingers crossed, hoping to hear from the coalition center in Ihi'ala, that's the local government coalition center at 9 p.m. and then of course we will find out what the results for tonight's elections will be but Imekan Wadyoke is a legal practitioner and Gabriel Prince is the programs officer at Yaga Africa. Thank you so much gentlemen for being part of this conversation. Thank you, thank you. All right well thank you all for staying with us, we'll take a short break and when we return we focus on Maynard's pension fraud and of course the two banks that may be indicted in this stay with us.