There's the news star safety in town, Telenoa Hufongo. Welcome to the show. Darius Butler in the building or on Zoom anyway. He's got a new mayor of shutdown. City Mark Ingram stops by. Hit me up at Up and Atom Show with your under reactions from week four. I cannot believe we're looking ahead to week five and now. Let's go. He wins. What do you want him to do? He wins. San Francisco should be happy beating their rivals. The LA Rams 24 to nine on Monday night football. Kyle Shanahan has won now seven of eight over Sean McVeigh.  So the Rams didn't have his or I want to start. Niners, I'm going to get to you. You're amazing. You're winning. You're excited here on the West Coast this morning. But the Rams didn't have a single offensive play of over 20 yards. And I think we have to ask ourselves why? Because that's flying around on Twitter. And there's lots of reasonable explanations for this, right? The offensive line is woeful. That's something people are discussing. And sure, that makes sense. It is. And he got sacked a million times and everybody got their hands on him. How about the lack of a traditional vertical threat? Yeah, I can see that. Sure. Maybe they do miss Odell. And maybe they do miss, you know, Bon Van Jefferson, I get. Or Cooper Cup makes plays downfield and absolutely can't. The third possible option here, if you're a logical, pragmatic, reasonable thinking person, is that maybe Matthew Stafford isn't right. And I think that's a valid question. We know he had offseason elbow surgery. I'm not a doctor. I'm not hot takey. But it's obvious watching him. This is a man who has the attack mentality. He's lacking that. That's not what I'm used to. He used to take shots down the field even when they weren't there. It is who he is. That is missing. And I'm getting some serious. And maybe this isn't a fair comparison. I'd love to hear from you guys at Up an Adam Show. I'm getting some serious big men vibes out here. You have to keep your eyes on this. He's the defending Super Bowl champions. It could be the O-line or it could be that he lost a little something or both. As for the Niners defense, that's the story. Of course, sacking Stafford seven times. We have an emerging star in safety, Telenoa, who phanga, he broke the game open. An incredible pick six will get to you with Darius Butler who's gonna join me here momentarily. And they held the McFay offense at three and a half yards per play. That is unheard of people. And they have a star at every position. Bosa on the edge, Warner at linebacker. Now who phanga, who's really been a stud all season and now cements himself on the bright lights with that amazing pick. And there's a four way tie now guys in the NFC West. Everyone's sitting pretty at even at two and two. Given the concerns with Stafford, I'm obviously gonna put all my faith behind the Niners right now. They have Debo, they have an underused George Kittle. They have a run again. They didn't even use as much as Stats wanted them to yesterday. And I trust Jimmy Garoppolo. Why does it feel like I have to defend myself the second I say that? I cannot hang with these Niners fans and you know who you are who wanna rip Jimmy. Is he Joe Montana? Is he Steve Young? No, but he wins. He wins you games, you spoiled people. Like, yeah, this is the guy who was, he's a put a smile on backup quarterback. A total professional handles his stuff better than anybody I've ever seen. As far as the weird, you know, circumstances of the whole thing. And he just took down your biggest, bad as best rival.  Rest on your defense, figure it out. And, you know, in the NFC West, they're all even but the Cardinals don't look right. As great as Gino has been and what a story. The defense is rough. I'm not sure I can buy into them just yet or really ever. So to me, the Rams don't look good because of Stafford. I'm rolling with the Niners. I'm all over Jimmy as you're bringing Darius Butler here because you know him. You love him. He loves everything. Football, F1, two, everything in between one of our favorite family members. Am I wrong? I roll with Jimmy. Hey, you're not wrong at all. As a Colts fan, I actually wanted Jimmy. I wanted Jimmy to come in this year. Obviously he had the shoulder surgery through that whole timeline off. But I'm right there with you. Jimmy wins ball games. And obviously this is your biggest division rival. I think this is seven, seven in a row now for him. I guess this team. So yeah, you got to feel good about this team and the direction they're going right now. I loved, yeah. You had a great tweet last night.  We'll get to that in a second. But this seemed to be the only thing that Bobby Wagner and company could stop. This is this man protesting, of course, animal rights and don't come after me, animal Twitter. I'm here for it. But can we see it? There it is. Darius, what happened here? What do you make of Bobby Wagner making a play? I mean, great hit, great form. Should have sent that guy to the blue tent to get going with some concussion protocol. Time and the place, obviously, these guys run on the field. They actually had a protest during one of the F1 races, too, where a guy, some people got on the track, but they thankfully safely got them off before they got hit by a car. But man, that's what should happen. If you take a field like that, that's exactly what should happen to you.  We maybe we'll pull it up. I'll send it to Conrad and he can put it up. You can say what you want. Poor man getting the Wagner achievement. I don't think that's what he thought he was signing up for. I think he thought he was signing up for the random security guard. Bobby eating a donut, barely catching up to him. He was not signing up for B-Wags. Yeah, we got to put these security guards through some type of combine or something every year. We got to check the fitness levels. If these guys get way too close to the field, obviously on the field, they got through 17 security guards so we got to vet those guards a little better going forward. What is your beef with the Rams defense? I mean, it's just the effort. The effort wasn't there. It's one thing to get beat. You know, it's the big boy league, right? Everybody's getting paid to make plays and sometimes guys are just gonna make plays. They're just gonna be better than you on certain downs. But I'm looking at the guys pre-snap, just body language, communication. They just didn't look ready a lot of the times and the same friend did whatever they wanted to do at the line of scrimmage. As far as getting on the edge, one of the first things you gotta take care of as a defense is the edge.  They got whatever they wanted all night and just allowed Jimmy to take the underneath things, which is fine, but you gotta stop running.   I don't know where that came from. I haven't heard it since probably little league days, but it just fit. It was the right wording for what I was watching. These nine points the Rams put up, it took everything they had to get those nine points. Are you worried about the offense like I am? You know, I'm not that worried. I think they will figure it out. I gotta put some faith in Sean McVeigh. Now, if it is something to be concerned about, it's Matt Stafford's elbow, like you mentioned. And anytime a guy comes into the season and says, this is the best I've ever felt in my life. I said it on Pat McVeigh show that first heard it. I always raise a red flag. I never believe it. It's always a lie. And I think we can see that he's not feeling a hundred percent. But I mean, you're going into week five now and nobody's feeling a hundred percent. Everybody's gonna be banged up and dealing with something. So if you're taking the field, if you're out there, it's no excuses, no explanations as Tony Dunge would say. So they gotta figure it out. They gotta figure out how to get Allen Robinson involved. They gotta find a third receiver that they can trust and somebody outside of Cooper Cup. Because if you throw the ball to Cooper Cup every time, at some point, the good teams, the good defense is gonna figure it out. The good players, you saw Hufanga, he took that pick six to the house from a play that he knew was coming. He knew the screen game was going to Cooper Cup, picked it and took it back to the house 50 plus yards. So you gotta find some other weapons to get involved in the offense. What are your thoughts on Hufanga? This is Telenoa Hufanga, rising star fifth round draft pick. And he's insane. I know he trained with Palomalu. He's like under his wing a little bit, but what a play.   Give him an endorsement. He's the next guy in line. You had Clay Mathews, you had Palomalu. And he flashes. Every time I watch tape with this 49ers defense, I mean, they got a lot of guys who flash defensively, honestly. Mosley's been playing great. Fred Warner been playing great. Green line, everybody. Ward at the corner position. He came over, he's been a great signing for them. But Hufanga, he pops every game. He makes plays, he flies around. He always seems like he's a tick faster than everyone else on the field. And I'm excited to see his continued rise in this league. Let's get to some AFC talk here. And let's go to the north with that John Harbaugh call, right? He made a controversial decision. He went for the touchdown instead of a field goal. They lose 23 to 20. The bills come back. A lot of people include, I mean, Marcus Peters was heated. What did you make of it? You know, I liked the call. I liked it. You know, it's 2022, you know, coach of the going for all the time. And if you looked at how that game was going, the defense, they weren't getting a lot of stops. And that's kind of been the raven's MO this season. You know, giving up late, big leads. They did it against my dolphins down in Miami. Thank you very much. But this game, you know, he jumped out to a multiple score lead. And then the offense, Josh Allen had their guys rolling. So you want to leave the ball. You want to put the ball in your best player's hand. Your best player's Lamar Jackson. You go for it in that situation. I have no problem at all going for it. I would do that.  So I'm trying to get seven there. And then hopefully, even if Josh Allen drives down to get seven, we got a chance to go in overtime. But I got no problem at all going for it there. I do have a problem with the Marcus Peters, John Harbaugh, Spatman sideline. Obviously emotions run high during games.  So hopefully he got some time to settle down. Those guys hashed it out. But I did. I hated to see that. Hated to see it, but it's one of those things where, yeah, I don't know why he gets a pass to me, but Marcus Peters just cares. I like to see that he cares. Yeah. He cares so much. And but him throwing his helmet, him having to be restrained. You never want to see that, of course. But Marcus Peters, you know, they know the talent that they have and they hopefully doesn't haunt them going forward. I want to get into the chiefs here because last week on this very program, you sort of downgraded, Darius, you did. You downgraded the chiefs. What did you say that they were 93 to 89 after that piss poor performance up against your Indianapolis Colts? And then Mahomes had something to say about that after quite the night. Do you have a regrade you'd like to? Yeah, right back up. Run the price right back up. Okay, right back up to 93. I apologize. I'm sorry. I should have never doubted Andy Reed, Eric, being in me and definitely not Patrick Mahomes to go out and do what he did in a hostile environment temple. He spoke about the memories he had down there and losing that Super Bowl. But that defense, one of the most talented defenses in the league. They just held, you know, A-Rod and that Packers offense to 14 points a week before. But to go down there and hang 41 on prime time, I think he sent a message to me and everyone else outside of the building and those guys in the building that he's still that guy and they're still one of the most potent, one of the most dangerous offenses in the NFL. So I overreacted last week. Okay, I overreacted downgrade him to 89. I was just looking for some cheaper guys but we're right back up to premium, baby. But they, I think they just, they somehow the Colts just have their number. Your team, that's what you can say that you can't beat me. Can't get it done against the Colts. That's it. Okay, we have to talk about something because you have, we looked it up yesterday at four pick sixes in your career, which is amazing.  This of course, viral on Sunday. It's Garrett Bulls, who we love. He put up his kid like Mufasa when Simba, when he had the draft and he had a baby on the stage. But this, you know, he, it was a late effort. What do you think? I mean, I love it. I love it.  We always say as players, as coaches, and this is Bulls giving a hundred, one thing you cannot doubt is that Bulls gave a hundred percent effort on this play. He know he had absolutely no chance on getting Robertson there. Great play by Robertson too. Great awareness and then great return to take that back for six. But I love the effort and that clip will live on the internet forever. So thank you, Garrett. And now there's Mario sound clips to it. And even his wife, did you see this?  But you love to see Darius. You love to see the family getting in on the fun. You love to see it. You gotta make a light of it. I'm sure, like you said, this will be, this will live on the internet forever. I actually have a bad memory. So I got four pick sixes, but I should have had five. I actually had probably my best interception in my entire football career against Denver. And I was, oh my God. And I was going back to the house and be up Garrett Bulls. He might've, his, the ghost of Garrett Bulls might've died and took out my hammy and held me to four. So I still only have four, but I always remember the one that should have been. So what happened after that? Did you miss time yet? What happened after that? Oh my God. Yeah, what happened after that is I walked off to the side and I put some ice and hit it to the locker room, Kay. I was done. And that's what happens when you come back too fast from another injury. So take your time, guys. Make sure your body's right before you get back out there. But that would have been one of my greatest plays ever if I was able to take that back and just walk through. I can't, I want to joke about it. I can't, cause you got hurt. That was a handshake. That went from Garrett Bulls to this real, that's insane. Riddle me this though, in the film room in Denver, the next day, and they're playing that. What's everyone saying? Like what goes on in that film room? Well, I mean, since they lost, you know, it's maybe they just make fun of it in their old line room when the play comes up. But as a team, you know, we're not keykeying and joking about it since we caught that L. But if they did get a win, they would definitely have that on replay. I would be the coach. That's one of those things in that first team meeting after the game, the coach will save that play to the very end and we'll get a good pop out of it. But the old line, I'm sure they'll have their phone with it, but they got a short week this week.  So I don't think they'll be laughing too much about that play. That's true. No, Javante Williams in that one. We've got lots of updates for Thursday night football. But enough of this riffraff and chit chat. Take me to shutdown city.  All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. We're back. I'm having fun with this. I enjoyed it. So we got Patrick Sartain, who he may be a long-term resident in shutdown city based on what I've seen in the early part of his career. I mean, he's been outstanding in coverage, matched up on one of the best receivers in the game, Devontae Adams. Devontae got his yards, made some great catches, but Sartain had a shutdown performance once again. And like I said, he'll be there for a while. Then you brought to the Pittsburgh Jets game. And I've been looking at this guy all year. I wanted to invite him last week, but he took an L. They got to win this time. Sauce Gardner, winning the top of the draft for a reason, making plays, locking down, tackling, great in the pass game, great in the run game, plays like a seasoned vet. And then I got my mayor in Dallas. Who is it? Cowboy, Trevon Diggs, led the league in the exceptions last year with 11, not getting the ball at the same clip he got last year, but he's locking guys down. A lot of people had a lot to say about his game in this pre-season, but he's stepping up to the plate and taking the step up from his all pro season last year. So Trevon Diggs is the mayor of shutdown city this week. He allowed a 0.0 passer rating, I think, according to PFF this past week. He doesn't really get the love, I feel like, Diggs. So I appreciate that. And you were getting hated on for not putting Sauce Gardner on shutdown city last week. What's up? I try not to. It's hard to get a guy on with L's and I had to get certain just because he's been so good. He's probably, if you ask corners in the league right now, a lot of them would say he's the best corner in the league right now. And I'm probably on him and Darius Slay. It's a toss up right now who I'll take number one. We love to see it. Darius, before we let you go, we know you're an F1 guy. We know I'm not an F1 girl, but Charles Leclerc? That's good. That's good enough. Is it Leclerc? Leclerc? It's Leclerc. I actually heard him pronounce it multiple ways too. Leclerc, Leclerc. So Charles. Leclerc is better. Charles Lecler, that works. Let's do Leclerc. Charles Lecler, he had your back this weekend, right? And he made the podium in Singapore and that is part of your patented Darius Butler boost. Can you teach me a little something? Give me a lesson. Compare Charles Leclerc to a current NFL player of the season. Ah man, this, probably Matt Stafford, honestly. You know, he's got all the talent in the world. Obviously he has a great fast car. He got a great play caller, but he has a little gene in him that can just, he can turn over and you saw Matt Stafford, he tried to throw about three more picks last night. So Charles has a little bit of that in him, but he held it down this past weekend in Singapore. He was actually the only part of the boost that hit. He got on the podium. Louis Hamilton was supposed to finish top six, but he had a tough race. A lot of drivers had a tough race out there in that track. Actually, I will never bet on that particular track ever again. It was off the schedule for a couple of years for a reason. I found out this past Sunday. So we're not betting on Singapore? No, we're staying away from Singapore. One of the toughest tracks out there. We're staying away from Singapore. That's all I heard. The Rams are gonna be okay. Hupanga's the real deal and we're staying away from the track in Singapore and that's why Darius Butler is the best. We've got a new mayor of shutdown City, Mr. Trevon, Trevon Diggs. Let us know what you think at Up and Atom Show. Darius, we appreciate you. Have a good week. Thank you, Casey. See you next week. And you're killing it on ESPN. I loved that. I found so much smarter. Hey, I like that, man. I'm having fun with my guys out there. Greg and old Sal Powell. Yeah, a little different from Pat McAfee, but it's a lot of fun to watch. No, you can switch it up. It's really, really impressive. I love it. All right, Darius Butler is out of here. Mark Ingram is on his way in. Week four is coming gone. See ya. But you got to pick up some new guys off the waiver wire for your fantasy team. I've got that for ya. Ingram thoughts on the Saints. Can they turn it around? It's all next. I'm not not sad that this season's going this fast. I cannot believe we are through an entire month. I've lived here an entire month, a month and a week. And I still don't have furniture. And that's just how my life is going. But maybe by, you know, we should hit the fandom of a sports book for this. When will Kay have a couch, a TV? When will she call the geek squad to come? I have to get like mounts and all of that. It's a devastating process. One more month? Wow, Brian, nope, that's... I don't know, I was thinking about the playoffs in one month, but we are through that. So let's get to it because the one thing I do do, I'm not good at being an adult human, but I'm great at fantasy football. And I'm great at spending my time instead of doing things like, oh, I don't know, paying rent and, you know, learning how to be a human. But instead I look at the waiver wire options and I look at things. That's why we are here to show you about Tyler L. Geer. Here's the deal. This is such a bummer. I love Cordellor Patterson. He's out, he suffered a knee injury. He's out at least four. So Tyler L. Geer is a top priority. This is my number one pick because he showed up against the Browns. It's a, you know, obviously they're running a lot in this Falcons offense. He had over a hundred total yards, 11 touches after Patterson's injury. And he's still available in like 80% of league. So I would also put in just a little warning, a little asterisk here. Caleb Huntley, that's his teammate, a little backup plan because obviously he's gonna be involved in some way in that rotations. And he was good for 10 carries for 56 yards and a score. Now, Givante Williams is done for the year. So I give you Mike Boone. It's a torn ACL. Melvin Gordon, how doghouse he is, he would as Nathaniel Hackett have him. I don't know, but he has a fourth fumble in as many games. It's terrible. So Hackett was talking to big game yesterday about trusting Gordon. I don't know. I'm gonna go ahead and say Mike Boone might be the guy because he seems to be the more trusted option at least for now. And he's still available in over 90% of leagues. I do believe that Mike Boone will have a solid workload going forward. And what an opportunity for him to be the guy. Don't cough up the ball, be a hero. All right, we're done with the running backs. Let's move on to Michael Gallop. He made a season debut on Sunday. I've always been a fan of his. And he made his impact felt immediately. He scored a big touchdown, only played on 64% of Snapson and two catches on the day. But that was, you know, to be expected. It's his first game back. His workload, I think, does go up from here. And his production will, too, once Dak gets back. Another wide receiver very much connected to his quarterback here is George Pickens. The picket to Pickens thing is real. He's a talented rookie, but he only had five catches through three games. The week four breakout was real. Six catches, 102 yards. He's got a connection with his quarterback, Kenny Pickett, who's obviously expected to be named the starter. So I think this relationship is going to flourish. Grab Pickens now when you have the chance. Wasn't it was Pickett named the starter? Yeah. You're starting Pickett? Yeah. They're gonna roll Pickett out there. Okay, now in this last one, before you give me your Twitter venom, who, why, what league would this guy be available in? How old are you playing in a 14 league? Listen, if you're lucky enough to be in the 50% of fantasy leagues, all right, I'll look over here, that haven't scooped up most are, yeah, you need to go grab him. He has to share touches with Chase Edmonds, but he's snatching up more and more of the workload with each passing week. He was out there on a season high, 72% of dolphin snaps on Thursday night and racked up 81 yards on 17 touches. That is must own ball you. So most are, if he's available, and I get it, he's probably not, but I felt weird not putting it on there because the numbers say 50% leagues do have him. Tyler Algier, Raheem Mostert at running back, also with Mike Boone, and then Michael Gallup and George Pickens for your wide receiving pleasure. I'm doing my overreactions to week four later in the show. Terry Spultler was here, Mark Ingram will join us. Please hit us up at Up an Adams show, but you guys have been tweeting some stuff and I like this one. Can we get the Patrick Ricard one? Yeah, Patrick Ricard, we're under reacting to him. He should be making 10 million a year. The way he blocks, he creates, how he protects, the mar, he's never fully appreciated. I like that. This is a pro bowler, guys. This is a pro bowler for three straight seasons. Raven's fans, I will say this, Raven's fans appreciate him. Project Pat, they like him. I have a sweatshirt from Patrick Ricard. He's fantastic. He also catches the ball, right? He lines up, he plays special teams. He's super versatile. He's, you know, what a chorea, Aikman not want to say yesterday that Erdo was at Scott Van Pelt last night, said, I don't, I don't want to call Debo Samuel of Swiss Army Knife, but he is. That's what Patrick Ricard is in his offense. And he should be talked about, you know, kind of in, I think the same vein as like a Taysum Hill is for the Saints. And how he's nationally regarded is that Ricard does it all. He's filled in his defensive tackle. Am I wrong at Up an Adams show? All right, what else we got on Twitter? We've got one from LPG NYG license plate guy. All right, a hundred percent giants being three and one. We are under reacting to this. Let's go. I don't know that our show is underreacting to this. I'm sure New York is not underreacting to this, but the track to the matter is this team has not been three and one since 2011, I believe. And you know, I'm not going to say it. We know what happened that year. We know what happened that year that they started the season at three and one. Do I think it happens this year? I don't know, but it's kind of fun to see. All right, one more before we go to break here. The Putrid Lions defense. All right, well, the fun little stat on Twitter, of course, is that the Lions offense and defense are allowing, you know, they're, well, the defense is allowing the most points in the NFL to see even the scoring 35 points a game and allowing 35.25. So that's, that makes for fun football. You're not going to, I don't know what you, what did you expect from this line squad other than fun and being a hard out for team. So we are very much Dan Campbell fans. They got the bump from hard knocks, of course, and it's carried over through the season. Their former number one wide receiver, of course, Kenny Galladay, now with the Giants doing Diddley Squat. Bruce Beck couldn't tell us anything about it. He's getting one target a game. They're paying him, he's disgruntled. So that's something to monitor, of course. If anybody knows what's going on with Kenny Galladay, let me know. Maybe I'll text Victor Cruz and he'll know and I'll bother him. But he's probably in Paris, like eating gelato and taking pictures with his shirt off. All right, more of our show coming up. We've got this guy. He is back from the UK, Mark Ingram. Victor Cruz out here just catching strays on up and Adam's show, but Mark Ingram joining us after this. Woo! Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm ready for war. I'm destined for greatness. That's where to behind me that lead. I'm up on the scene. I told you I'm up on the scene. Yeah, I'm ready for war. I'm ready for war tonight. I'm ready to set a score. Set a score tonight. One of the most universally beloved NFL players there ever was. He joins us every week on up and Adam's currently in his 12th season in the NFL. Playing for those Saints, a superstar running back, Mark Ingram. How are you? Okay, what's up, man? The intros love. The intros always love and I appreciate it, so thank you. Of course. Tell me about your trip, of course, disappointing loss, but was there any fun to be had? What was the best part of that trip out to London? I think it was just spending time with the guys, man, just being able to eat, being able to hang out, cakey, just get close with the guys, man. You spend a lot of time together, but when you're in another country with people like, you spend time with different teammates, man, this is great to meet everybody, see some of their families, just learn more about them. But other than that, I would say it also was the match we went to. It was England national team versus Germany. That was a great experience. We did that when we first got there. So that was one of the highlights of the trip as well. I love that. I know you tried to buy one of those teams. It didn't quite work out because you already have a soccer team there.  I need the gear. I got you. See, listen, what size, what size you need? I need like probably like a medium because I want it to be big, like this. Okay. So I told you I was going to work on that when I got back from London and we're going to work on fresh levels here. We're going to get you some DC United gear. We're going to get you right. What made you, what made you want to invest in DC United? Like that's such a that's if I don't, I need to know the story behind that.  I mean, just to grow forward in America has a huge room to grow.  So many young kids are playing it and you could just look at our national team. You could look at the MLS, how fast it's growing. It has the biggest room for growth out of any sport. You know what I mean? So, especially in our country. So just a great thing to be a part of. World Cup coming in North America in 2006. It's going great, man. So it's a lot of bright for the future of soccer in America. I love that. And you got to see some of that out there in London. Now you're back.  And it was, it was heartbreaking. And it was, you know, the Vikings have had their share of heartbreak too. So it was nice to see it, you know, as an NFL fan break right for them. But it was, it was really tough. And you, my friend, I was thinking about you. You've dealt with those heartbreaks. You've experienced a ton, the Minneapolis miracle, the no-call, all of that. What is the toughest on-field heartbreak that you have gone through in your 12-year career? Man, it would have had to been that no-call probably in the NFC Championship game. I mean, we're men in whatever, 20 seconds away from being in the Super Bowl. You know, we get that, we get that first down. We can run the clock out, kick a field goal, we in the Super Bowl, you know what I mean? So that was probably the toughest one. That was probably the toughest one. Yeah.  After a loss, like, you know, this isn't the start to the season you imagined for yourself in personal goals, I'm sure, and the team, you know, with what they want to do. And I know you want to win a Super Bowl. It's important to you. And it's a real thing. Like, who's in that locker room, you know, pushing and it's not easy to pick yourself up after a loss. It's a first and foremost, DA is just doing a great job for us, you know, just encouraging us and, you know, also holding us accountable. You know, it starts with him and then just all the leaders in the team, man. We just have a great group of guys who, we just know that we're a really talented team. When we're playing how we're supposed to be, not hurting ourselves, you know what I mean? Turning the ball over, giving up explosive plays, not doing things the best of teams the right way. We're not doing things the right way. Love and feel in the NFL is just so close. So all the plays are crucial. All the players matter. You never know when the most important play is going to matter. So you got to approach every play as such. And we have way too many good guys in the locker room, both on and off the field. And we're holding each other accountable. And the good thing about it is the season is still young. The season is still early. We have a chance to turn this thing around. So that's what we plan to do this week. It's true. Now you got hurt in that game. I saw Latavius Murray got signed by another team, which is wild. How are you feeling? Tell everybody. No, I'm feeling fine. My thumb was kind of like getting stuck on me. Like I was trying to squeeze the ball. We were about to go off our next possession. And like my thumb was like kind of cramping. It was like just kind of stuck like that kind of. And I had to get that right. I'm like, I need some fluids. They were just making sure there was nothing wrong with my thumb. And I was trying to get back out there as quick as possible. I was able to come back. But yeah, I had a little small issue with the thumb going on. And but I'm feeling good this week. I'm feeling good today. Did you happen to see John Harbaugh's decision to go for it? Yeah, I kind of heard about it because we were on the plane coming back. So I kind of saw it over social media and stuff like that. So what's your take? Like, and you're on the plane and everybody's chiming in about it. And obviously like John Harbaugh's always going to kind of go for it. Marcus Peters hated it. I've just asked Arius Butler about it. What did you think? Hey, like that's the MO of Baltimore, you know, it's being aggressive. And, you know, for him that's trying to put the game away, I'm sure everyone kind of supported it.  Like, let's go for it. Let's go for it. That's just been the MO. You know, the two years I spent there, we were very aggressive going for it on fourth down and going for it in the red zone, having faith in the defense, giving them a short field to be able to stop them. We always kind of relied on that team kind of, you know, ball together, you know? If you got it, you know, you have a touchdown. If you don't, the defense has them back back and you hope that they can get a stop. But it's hard. It's hard. Obviously in the grand stream of things, you wish you took the points, but if they scored a touchdown and they won the game, you know, par ball is looking like a genius, you know? So it is what it is, you know? And he usually does. I mean, Marcus, I'm defending, am I wrong to defend Marcus Peters in this one? Is he justified in being so emotional? Listen, he's one of the great players and he knows what it takes to, you know, play at the highest level and he wants to win games. A lot of us put things into this game, man. We're blessed with and tears lots of time, lots of sacrifice and, you know, it gets heated on those sidelines on Sundays and I don't think it's anything personal, but I just think everyone wants to play to their best ability and everybody wants to win. So when, you know, sometimes confrontations and stuff like that happen, but y'all love each other, you keep it pushing. Everybody has a common goal, one to win and one to be champion. So I think that's what they can fall back on. And it's so true. They got to figure out this, you know, they've been in the hole, losing these leads by 17, you know, in two games this year or so. But like you said, this season is young. I know you've got love for them, even though you are full on trying to get the Saints turned around and getting things done for them. Yeah, we've been national all day. You don't get it right, baby. Yeah, Marcus Peters is good at getting heated and he's passionate. You're good at giving hype speeches. And that's what you do. So I wanted to sort of ask you as we, you know, first up, let's take a little look. Just so everybody out there knows, you can reset. Let's take a look. Now I would just like to introduce you all to the man, the myth, the legend. Aaron Jones, keep balling my dog. The MVP front runner, James Bond, 007. If anybody else got to say something different about that, then come see me. I'm a fan of you. You know how much I respect you. How much I love you and your game and your family. I'm right here and be more outside the bank. Golden eye, the man, the myth, in the flesh himself. I'm about that. Keep getting your money. Big trust. We gonna pip, pip. Woo, woo. He told that rock properly, man. How it's supposed to. Lamar Jackson. It's all love in it. Big trust. After I pip, pip, I'm gonna go faff around in it. Rob. My favorites. When you go, we gonna pip, pip. Woo, woo. I don't know where it comes through, but it just makes me happy. The entire stage here is laughing. So, You know, we faffing around. Love to do it. Yes. Okay. So now you have a microphone. So here's what we're going to do. This is your very own up and Adam's show segment. We're calling it mark my words. And everyone can tweet things that you want. Mr. Mark Ingram to hype up cause nobody does it better. So let's pretend it's post game. I'm gonna give, you know, why want you to give some love and hype up an NFL player? And I've got a couple of options for you. Now I know Josh Jacobs is your boy. Alabama alum. He finally popped off career high 144 yards last weekend against the Broncos. Or last night there was a hero on the field in his safety. Telenohu Fonga, right? He had a pick six for the, against the Rams. It was beautiful. Give a hype speech to one of those guys. Listen, we respect the pick six, but you know I gotta go. Bambo boy. Josh Jacobs in the flesh. My dog told that rock been true. Hey, been told that rock. Not new to it. True to it. You feel me? So keep telling that rock, Josh. Top five in the league in Russian. Keep putting the flow. Keep, keep putting your photo. Your foot to the ground. Let's go. Keep getting after it, boy. I love you, man. Roll tight and keep toting rock out there in Vegas, man. Keep doing your thing, boy. I love you. Have you hit him up after that kind of game? Hey, me and Josh, we tight, man. We expect to edit each other. You know what I mean? That's the standard, nothing less. Every time you go out there, you're trying to dominate and make game changing plays to help your team win games. And that's what he did. So gotta highlight them. Gotta show them love. Gotta hit them up. Gotta hype them up. That's all day, Josh Jacobs, baby. Let's get it.  I also want to show you, just because this is something that I feel like you can pop off on. Zach Wilson, they gotta win too, right? You know, Zach Wilson, at least celebrating a touchdown dance. And he did the gritty, which you've seen up close and personal, many a time on the field. What rate this gritty? Hey, my boy did his thing though, man.  That boy cranked the gritty on him. It was kind of clean. It was kind of smooth, man. Zach, I'm foolin' with you, dawg. You know, I'm foolin' with that. That's kind of clean, bruh. That's kind of clean. It's not bad. And then, just to keep the quarterbacks going, here, Kirk Cousins did it after that win in London. We don't wanna show it, cause whatever, but it was not great. Nah, we ain't showin' none of that. Yeah, but it was not great. It was not great. And then, but there's some, there's other quarterbacks who've given it a try. Mac Jones, I think, had a, had one that the interwebs had a fun with. That's, that's a... Hey, he kinda, he kinda, you know, he kinda put some sauce with it. Kinda put the old Mac Jones sauce with it, you know what I mean? He kinda did it in the, oh, I remember in the Pro Bowl, I think I kinda watched that. And he did it after like a run or whatever. But yeah, he put a little sauce on it. Mac Jones, Roll Tide, another one of the Belma boys. You know, we showin' love. That's nice. All the big Belma boys. A little sauce on it. It looks a little skipped to my loo, like a, la, la, la. Yeah, it kinda just, ain't, kinda just rock with it a little bit. Yeah, I saw, there's a good footage of you doing that. We looked it up yesterday, you doing the Antonio Brown one. That was real, you, you can dance, Ingram. This, yeah, yeah. Catchin' the vibes, just catchin' the vibes, that's it. Here's my question. Can you, if you have it in you, and I think you do on this Tuesday, cause hype speeches make the world go round. Can you, can you inspire some of these quarterbacks that, you know, guys who maybe think they might be able to hit the gritty, but they're too scared to, guys who like need, guys who need that Mark Ingram love to get them, you know, we need a Matt Stafford. I need to see if Tom Brady hit the gritty. Like, you know, what do you got? Tell, tell these guys how to, how to, how to do it. Listen, whatever you gonna do, you gotta do it. Have confidence, believe in yourself. Just make sure you game ready.  Make sure you right, make sure you prior time ready. Whether it's the gritty, whether it's that put that A, B, that put that stuff on whatever it may be, you know what I mean? Just make sure you ready, prior time ready. You gotta make sure you right. Hit it, have confidence, believe in yourself, don't crank it, let's get it. Mark Crankett, call somebody out, call out a player or quarterback that needs to hit the gritty. Quarterback needs to hit the gritty. Davis Mills, down there in Houston, I need you to hit the gritty. Davis Mills. Yeah, Millie, that's my boy, big Millie. I need you to hit the gritty, bro, let's get it. Big Millie, get hit the gritty. I love everything about this. What'd you make a DK Metcalf's cart to the bathroom? Hey, man, you gotta do what you gotta do to get there. You know what I mean? You gotta do what you gotta do. If he needed the cart to get there, so big. I used the cart to get there. He said the clinch walk wasn't gonna work. The clinch walk was not in fact going to work. Now, have you seen anything like this before? Man, I haven't seen the cart going to the bathroom I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. I've seen people run off real quick, like, gotta go. Like Lamar. You know what I mean? Yeah? Lamar did that last year. But he said that he didn't have to poop, I think. He said that. Everybody else thought it was the poop walk. He said he didn't have to, so I don't know. He didn't admit to you guys that it was the poop walk? I was under the impression that he was cramping. I think that was the story that I was told after that. He was cramping, so we ran into the bathroom that the media uses and stuff out there. I think he had to get an IV. He got an IV in the bathroom? That little bathroom? Give me a break. Was it a little bathroom? I think he did go in there. Maybe he didn't. I thought he went to the locker room. I think the world at large thinks that he had to poop, which is fine, everybody poops. That was the discussion after it, but I was under the impression that he was running into the locker room too. Oh yeah, and Lamar Jackson did speak after that y'all trip and I definitely, isn't there a better solution for this? Because Mark, here's what you have to understand, because you're still very much in the NFL. I told you, where's the city? Where's the city? You were taking it. I know, but here's my problem. You players have to do that and that's fine, but as a fan at home, or if you're in the booth and you're having to tweet and your job is to say what's going on in the game, you think something happened to DK.  Where did he, so shouldn't there be a better solution? I think there should be a poop mobile. A separate golf cart, a comfortable one that takes players in and out for that, because otherwise we think something's really wrong. I think it was just an emergency. I've never seen nobody use the cart, you know what I mean?  I love poop talk with Mark Ingram. You were the absolute best.  I know you can, and you will. Yeah, for sure. We will, we're gonna get it done. It's starting this week. All right, you're the best. Josh Jacobs, that is coming to you, that hype speech, you'll be back after this. On Up and Atoms, you've got much more to come. My under reactions, I mean, I don't think we do three minutes on poop. I really didn't, but here we go. Everybody, because we had a lead, we relinquished the lead, and we bought ourselves back in one freaking game. That's a freaking NFL win. We had all the fun this week, you know? That's on Thursday. How do I work, Jim? We got out here, you guys, we got pros through and through, able to battle all the way down to the very, very end. Unbelievable performance. Yes! Hey, what's that for four? It's my one, my 100. Get it done, that's all we gotta do. We stay with us, and we do us. That's it. Love y'all boys. Here you go, not a win. We'll get your first five more minutes. Yes, sir. Week four was awesome. There's so many two-and-two teams, too. So there's a lot of optimism, a lot of teams wanting to turn it around and break it right. As you just heard Mark Ingram say, the Saints still have a chance. It's early in the season to get that done each and every week. There's so many underreactions and overreactions coming up from everywhere. So the underreacting storylines that we need to play a little bit closer attention to, I think in this one from last night's game, of course, Matthew Stafford's elbow. Everyone's talking offensive line. Everyone's talking you're missing a guy opposite Cooper Cup. You need a deep threat. You need somebody else's eyeballs out there, but Matthew Stafford not taking shots. Not taking shots downfield. No, it doesn't look right. Giving me a little big Ben vibes. So that's definitely something that I think we are underreacting to. And have underreacted since it was reported that Matthew Stafford underwent surgery and something we very much need to pay attention to because this is supposed to be one of the absolute powerhouses in a watered-down NFC. And now it looks like it's the Eagles and the Packers and everybody else until someone unseats them. But another underreaction to week four stuff was Deontay Johnson saying that it's a rebuilds. Do we, do we have this? Everybody won the winning. I mean, obviously it's a rebuild in a year. Not gonna use that as an excuse. It don't matter who's that quarterback or whoever's in any position. It's our job to get it done and win games. But it's still for us in general. So that's what we got to do, win. That's all I'm focused on, is winning. If you're like a Kaboli or Kabali, I forgot to say, how does he say his name? Kaboli, you've got to be just, that's like juice to your ears. It's something you've never heard before. I've never heard of it before. Tomlin's been there 15 years. They don't have rebuilding years and 15 seasons under Tomlin, they don't have a losing record. You know, even going back before Tomlin to the Bill Cower years, the Steelers have one losing season. The Steelers have one losing season this millennium. So to hear that sort of like, was the record scratcher sound bite of the week for me. And I think people are letting it sort of fly under the radar or Pittsburgh fans are like, oh, he didn't mean to say it. But is that what, you're going from inside that locker room and hearing somebody say that. So what's really going on? And another thing we're underreacting to when we talk about that Steelers team, by the way, is the defense.  They have stars, they've got Mink of its Patrick, they've got TJ Watt and they make some plays. But they were a bottom 10 defense last year with a healthy TJ Watt. Now they don't have him. They're not going to be much better. The defense, which is something you never think when you think Steelers, a huge challenge, a huge issue, a huge thing that needs to be talked about and needs to be turned around. If they're going to support Pickett or Trebisky or whoever is under center there in Pittsburgh. Next up, so we overhype everything about the Buffalo Bills. And they deserve credit, but we hype up every little thing. And the Buffalo Bills erasing a 17 point comeback on the road in Baltimore, somehow flew under the radar, somehow didn't get any love, didn't get any recognition. And I'm a little worried, are we normalizing the things that the Bills are doing week in, week out? We spent so much painstaking, excruciating time debating John Harbaugh's late game decision. Look what I did. I asked both of our guests today about it. Mark Ingram, because he played here, Darius Butler, because he has great takes. And we did all this. I don't feel like we've given the Bills their due for erasing a 23 halftime deficit on the road to get a top tier opponent a loss. Jordan Poyer came through. That's who I want to give love to. He's under reacted to clutch, two interceptions in the fourth quarter. Devin Singletary stepped up 96 total yards. Josh Allen did use his legs to make a difference. He rushed for 70 yards and a score. The Bills showed that even when they don't have explosive plays in them or their passing game isn't working, they find ways to win and that is under reacted to. It's not about Josh Allen. Stop showing me clips of Josh Allen. It's about the team and what they're able to do. We have to get out of here. No, we can't do our undone. Oh, well that wasn't mean, yes, in my ear Conrad. Jesus, can we stay or could we have to go? We have to break? We'll be back after this. We've got one more. Maybe I'll put that one on Twitter. It was about Mike McCarthy. How Mike McCarthy is it that we didn't get to get to him in this segment? We'll be back after this. When I was in elementary school we had a thing called the star pupil. That's kind of what this is like. It's hit the lights on a player who had an outstanding performance and it is Gino Smith. Remember when this offense was not humming and everyone was screaming, don't get rid of Russell Wilson and should we trade for Baker? Why don't we draft a quarterback? I'll make a big swing. Four weeks in, I think that's pretty clear. Pete Carroll and company knew a little something about Gino Smith and maybe we didn't. The former Jets second round pick a full time starter for the first time in nine seasons. And I just love a rewrite. You guys know how I feel about this. I love the second act. After leaving the Seahawks to 48 points in this amazing win over the Lions. He hits the quarter pole of the season with the third highest passer rating in the NFL, behind just two in the homes. He sets an NFL record with 77.3% completion percentage through his first four games. This has been so fun for Seahawks fans which I love to see seeing Gino not only lead them to that week one win over Russell Wilson and maybe, oh, maybe it's a cute story and then it'll go away. But he is pretty much shown Russell Wilson up in every major passing category to start this year. That's fun. That feels good for these fans, right? So we'll see if he can keep it going, but for now he is the week four star pupil a shot at redemption. Oh, rewrite. Hit the lights for Gino Smith. Okay, we'll be back tomorrow with gosh knows who, Gal Lee, Eric Guero and the Great List. Don't miss it.


Item number SCP-731 Object Class, Euclid Special Containment Procedures A system of decommissioned utility tunnels at Site-9 was sealed off and converted into a mock sewer system covering an area approximating six city blocks, with 17 street-level access points sized to fit SCP-731-1. D-Class personnel are sent to check the manhole covers, every one to two weeks, to ensure that SCP-731-1 does not attempt to stray farther afield. All other horizontal access hatches or aperture covers within a five-kilometer radius have been sealed or retrofitted to a form factor incompatible with SCP-731-1. The mock sewer system is to be kept impenetrable to the entrance or exit of any vermin or other small creatures. A mixture of simulated wastewater and refuse is to be cycled intermittently through the system via pumps. Human access to the sub-street-level system is via decontamination locks. The sub-street level is not considered hazardous, but care must be taken against any unexpected tricks or traps that may be set by the SCP-731-2 contained within. SCP-731-2 is classified as safe. SCP-731-1 is a steel disc 63 cm in diameter, approximately 3 cm thick, weighing 55 kg. On its upper side, it resembles an ordinary manhole cover with two apertures for the insertion of lifting picks and a traction pattern embossed in its surface that resembles a maze. A logo in the center consists of two short bars with arcs, extending from their midsections. The appearance of the cover does not correspond to any known utility system or manufacturer, though the logo could potentially represent or. On the underside of the disc is an intricate geometric pattern of etched curves, whose purpose or meaning is unclear. The existence of an SCP candidate was first suspected in downtown when data mining revealed the suspicious pattern of unexplained missing persons. The pattern stretched back at least 50 years, prior to which time inadequate records were kept to track the disappearances with certainty. The underlying pattern to the disappearances was matched to the sewers and utility tunnels of the city. The last known location of disappeared victims was always in the immediate vicinity of an access manhole. Foundation teams searching the tunnels eventually discovered the unusual patterning on SCP-731-1's underside, but by the time they returned with a containment vehicle, SCP-731-1 had transposed itself with another manhole cover, somewhere else in the city. SCP-731-1 was ultimately cornered, after a campaign was launched to weld down every manhole cover in the city, under the guise of anti-terrorism measures. Restricting SCP-731-1's mobility, to the point where its only option was to transpose into a manhole that had been prepared for rapid removal and transport. SCP-731-1 appears to act as a sort of roving ambush predator. Its senses are unknown, but apparently very acute. When it is stepped on by a lone human who is not being observed by anyone else, the victim appears to fall down the manhole, in actuality being sucked into the solid surface of SCP-731-1. Simultaneously, a single large Norway rat, Rattus Norvegicus, hereafter designated SCP-731-2, is disgorged from the underside of the cover to fall into the tunnel below. It is thought that SCP-731-1 somehow converts its victim into this rat. The maximum range over which SCP-731-1 is able to transpose itself with compatible manholes, or whether it is possible for it to jump to another network of utility tunnels not directly connected to its current home, is not known. The frequency of its spontaneous jumps increases the longer it goes without performing a mission, possibly with the goal of finding better hunting grounds. It is therefore hoped that by allowing it to capture and convert a D-class personnel on a regular basis, it can be kept satiated and will remain within the foe city where it is currently contained. Addendum SCP-731-2 The rats, produced by SCP-731, appear physiologically normal at first examination. However, evidence suggests that they possess an unusually high level of intelligence, and that they may retain specific knowledge and or memories possessed by the humans they were created from. SCP-731-2 have proven extremely adept at overcoming puzzles and other challenges, and are only rarely fooled by conventional rat traps. SCP-731-2 avoid human contact wherever possible, and their endocrine responses suggest they are universally terrified by the presence of humans. When kept under observation in a laboratory setting, this fear appears to override much or all of their higher brain functions, such as they may be, causing their behavior to appear similar to a normal rat. This makes confirmation of their intellectual capabilities under controlled conditions difficult. Concealed cameras and microphones were hidden in the tunnels of the containment facility to observe converted rats in their natural environment. When unaware that they are being observed, SCP-731-2 are highly social and appear to attempt to communicate in complex ways. Since the rats are far easier to contain than the teleporting manhole cover that produced them, this study has been judged of low risk, and SCP-731-2 have not been subject to routine extermination. When normal rats are introduced into cages with SCP-731-2, SCP-731-2 tend to be timid and exhibit submissive behavior towards their wild cousins. The normal rats do not appear to consider SCP-731-2 unusual. Mating behavior has been observed, but it does not appear that these superficially similar species are interfertal. It is not yet known whether SCP-731-2 are fertile at all. SCP-731-2 appear to have a longer lifespan and lower metabolic rate than natural rats, with a correspondingly reduced fecundity. This further reduces the potential risk of SCP-731-1's progeny escaping into the wild, though a population may still exist in... For selected experiments, see Experiment Log 731. Experiment Log 731. Experiment 731-12. An attempt was made to drill into SCP-731-1 to recover samples and assess its durability. SCP-731-1 immediately transposed to the farthest available manhole in the containment network, preventing any damage. A repeat attempt while leaving no local manholes available for retreat is on hold, pending the development of an easier way to track and recapture SCP-731-1 than was employed initially. Experiment 731-19. A tracking device was fastened to SCP-731-1 via a cable, looped through the object's two pick-holes. SCP-731-1 transposed to a new location within containment. As soon as the technicians who had performed the task left the area, the cable was severed and both pieces remained at the original location. It is likely that any similar attempt to tie down SCP-731-1 through its pick-holes would prove unsuccessful. Experiment 731-40. An ordinary domesticated cat was introduced to the street level of SCP-731 containment. When it eventually wandered onto SCP-731-1's surface, it fell through in the same manner as a human subject, but no rat was disgorged from the underside. It appears that the cat was destroyed. Experiment 731-87. An ordinary domesticated cat, experienced in rat control, was introduced to the sub-street level of SCP-731 containment. The SCP-731-2 rats populating that level appeared terrified by the cat and fled in a normal manner, and the cat succeeded in catching and killing two of them. However, one hour and 45 minutes into the experiment, the cat's feet were injured while pursuing a third. The cat was recovered, and numerous metal slivers were found in its pads. It appears that the rats had nod these off of the interior of a degraded metal pipe and had deployed them as a field of primitive caltrops, with the fleeing rat luring the cat while itself navigating a pre-designated safe path. Experiment 731-92. A ferret was introduced into the sub-street level of SCP-731 containment. The rat's anti-cat caltrop fields proved ineffective against this more agile foe, but it appears they were already prepared for this eventuality. The ferret succeeded in killing one rat, and then was itself fatally wounded when it pursued a second into a confined tunnel. The rats had managed to find and sharpen a nail, rigging it to rise up from the ground at an angle when a platform immediately beyond it was stepped on, to impale a pursuer. Further predator introduction experiments have been suspended, as it is not clear what more can be learned from this. Experiment 731-115. A pad of paper and a set of pencil graphites mounted on short plastic dowels suitable for gripping a rat's jaws were introduced in the sub-street tunnel system of SCP-731 containment. While the presence of these items was immediately noticed by several of the rats, and word apparently spread quickly through the system, it took over three hours for the rats to emerge from hiding and cautiously approach. Although they did not appear to be aware of the specific locations of the hidden surveillance cameras, their behavior seemed to suggest that they were aware that they were being watched, apparently by deduction. A heated, squeaking argument appeared to ensue among several of the rats, involving both conventional rodentine dominance and submission displays, and recognizably human-like four-paw gestures. Finally, one of the larger rats tore a sheet from the pad, and used a graphite to write, F**K YOU, in shaky but readable English. The rats then absconded with the graphites and the rest of the pad, succeeding in hiding them somewhere in the system not covered by surveillance. It is recommended that the surveillance network be reviewed, and these previously unknown holes in its coverage filled. Lesson complete. If you missed the previous orientation, go watch SCP-730, De-Cerebrating Plague, right now, or for the complete course, watch this playlist.


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That's the next tier at $25. Then the next one we'll receive an embossed postcard. I would switch those perks now that I think about it. So yeah, you're getting a pretty awesome deal on the modern day debate coffee mug. Because now I'm like, we should have the mug above the postcard. But anyway, next up, modern day debate t-shirt. That's an epic one. I'm excited that people have been going for that. As I am excited, I've got my own modern day debate t-shirt. But then also the modern day debate hoodie at the next level. And then zoom chat with James one on one. And that's something you can record, put on your own channel if you want, whatever it is. And then also it could be a tutorial where I can show you exactly in terms of teaching you how to use the software that we use at modern day debate to put this show together and all that. And then meet and greet with the guests. That is, I'm excited for this epic new perk that is at the very bottom there. 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And then, yes, we're excited though. It's fun. It's going to be a good one. I am very confident. Dr. Kenny Rhodes is a really friendly guy. I think Matt and him are going to get along great. So we're happy about that. Resoad, of course, is a stimulating one tonight. Felt myself towing and frowing. I guess feeling your opinion shifting is a sign of good debaters. I am so glad you enjoyed it. I love tonight's debate. That was a lot of fun.  I want to support your goals. You've always been reasonable. Pronouns are like a single word way to say I agree with your complex idea. And I can't lie like that. We are pretty neutral. So we just want to say, hey, just call them by their name. If you have any like issue with the pronouns, like don't call them the pronoun. They don't want to be called because you guys might be like, well, no, it's just, I'm just going to do it. And then they just have to learn to deal with it. And it's like, listen, if they asked you for lessons on being more stoic, which frankly, I'm actually very stoic myself. And that's why I tell you like, if you want to ask me what, if you want to call me a she, or if you want to ask if I'm a man or a woman, I don't care. But nonetheless, if they're not asking for lessons and stoicism, then it's not your job to harass them or try to needle them so that you can be like, Oh, I'm making them stronger. I'm just, none of it's convincing. It's, I think really it is again, it's people just want to try to treat people like crap or try to irritate them or something. But Reswell, of course, is teach them chair. Let's see. And Farron Salas, thanks for being a backer. We do appreciate that. That really does mean a lot. Your support means a lot. And we are excited about this huge event. It's seriously, it's going to be epic. Chris Floyd, thanks for coming by and said, why aren't there more women moderators? Hey, if more women moderator, if there are more women that want to be moderators, I'm open to it. I don't really like push for making sure that it's all equal like this percent men and this percent women, this percent white, this percent black. I am open to whoever wants to be a moderator as long as they do the job, which is again, basically we just want to get rid of hate speech. Any, any harassment of the guests. FFKKF says James, modern day debate makes my week. Thank you.  Keep crushing. We are glad you were here. FFKKF and we hope to see you back for many more debates and tree squad. Thanks for coming by. Glad you were here as well. Saw and son. Thanks for your being here with us as I need a beer. I get you. I, I enjoy a nice beer here and there and stripper liquor. Good to see you. Says, I don't see a pair of James's boxers up there. That's funny. You, we might as a perk, add some of my own bathwater. That's a new perk. We've been thinking about it. Some of you guys would probably like that too much. But good to see you. Let's see. Hannah Anderson. Thanks for your support. And then Fanta Ring. Thanks for coming by. We are glad you were here. And then I'm almost caught up with the old chat. It was moving fast. Red Barrel Rider. Thanks for being here with us as well as Topazzo. Good to see you. Says, do you prefer to be called hot, handsome or beta? Beta. Matthew Simard. Good to see you. Says, I'm stoic volcanic. Ha. Thank you for that. And Amanda says, I'll be a moderator. All right. As long as one thing I do want to let you know is that Amanda, I'm cool with making you a moderator. Want to let you know that the moderators do have like meetings and discord and stuff. And so like they will have the expectation that you'll be there. So I'm willing to, I'm going to mod you up right now. I just want to let you know that like the moderating has become kind of a, almost like a job. And I'm, I never pushed for it. But one of the, you could say our lead moderator, Bob, was like, listen, we want to, we want to like have everything like, I have all the moderators on the same page. And that's why they have discord meetings and things like that. And so I am totally open to it. Just want to let you know that it is something that it's like, it's frankly work. And so we really do appreciate our moderators. And then we do also want to let you know that it's like, you're hired. It's volunteer work, but thank you for your help. And John Wazieluski says, what did I miss here? Thanks for coming by John. You missed the entire debate, but we're still glad you're here and redeems us. Good to see you, James. Keep up the good work. Thanks for your kind words. If you haven't yet, folks, hit that subscribe button as well. As we are excited, there are a lot of juicy debates. I didn't, I forgot I told you, I was going to tell you about these upcoming debates. So one, Vosh returns next week. It's going to be a juicy one. It's going to be controversial. It is going to be absolutely, it is absolutely going to be crazy. So you don't want to miss that one. That's on the bottom right of your screen. And then also though, letting you know about other ones, let me show you this one, because you maybe haven't even heard about it. And I'm like, you really, you haven't heard about this one. Is this is on Wednesday. Is taxation theft with Dr. Michael Hummer and Dr. Ben Burgess? That's going to be a really high profile debate, folks. I'm excited for that one as these scholars are going to collide this Wednesday. And it's going to be friendly. They're both really easy going. So you have to trust me with all of our cheesy marketing or I don't know what do you call it branding in terms of like, they're going to collide. And you remember we used to have, what's it in the top of the overlay that you see here on screen. It used to say, is this kind of tacky phrase? What was it? The word where debaters come to die. And some people were triggered. Some people were like, oh, you shouldn't put that James. I had to tell them nobody's really died on the show.  But anyway, we are excited and want to say, let's see, two earths as it be willing to debate you that calling out a debater for using dishonesty as a tactic isn't a personal attack. Yeah, that'd be a great use of my time. Frankly, it's a waste of my time because the thing is so many people, so and so is being dishonest, which is exactly what you said. And so I'm like, yeah, just calling someone dishonest.  You're not attacking the arguments.   So instead of, for using dishonesty, no, no, no, you call them dishonest. If I remember right, I think it was Tom.    And seriously, I'll go back and get the chat if you want it.  You didn't say that he was using dishonesty as a tactic. You called them dishonest.  You're manipulative.  So it's not going to work here. So I've got no apologies either.   But we are excited about the future. And so we do want to encourage you folks, attack the arguments all you want. But the people, whether you say, oh, they're, you know, what's their gender? Is this person male or female? Is this person, you know, it's like all that stuff.   Look, I, and it's like, OK, this is like, right. Here we go. But well, Zach, thanks for your support. Pumped that you were here. And so yeah, we were excited. So want to let you know about upcoming debates. Vegan gains will be here tomorrow, you guys. We're pumped that vegan gains will be returning. And then you don't want to miss that as Philip and him are going to debate veganism and vegetarianism to air. I didn't, I didn't look like you were joking. If you were joking, I sincerely apologize. It didn't look like it. So let's see. But yeah, we are excited about vegan gains returning with Philip tomorrow, vegetarian versus vegan. The first time we've ever hosted that. And then let's see. What's the other one Friday? Let me just look up this one here. Two air is embarrassed. There's now they're projecting talk about embarrassing. Yeah, look, I'm like really worried about it. Let's see. Our next debate coming up, but now you're getting all like, what's the word I'm looking for?  But let's see. Thanks for correcting it, though.  I mean, that you had to sink to personal attacks. But I'm glad that you actually corrected it. So let's see. And then Friday, Dr. Jeff Meldrum will be taking on Erica. So I am excited about that. It's going to be epic. And then Neff and Dr. Wilson, that's going to be epic. So that's going to be evolution on trial. So we haven't had that in a while. And Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum and Erica, though, we're excited that just got booked today. And then should critical race theory be taught in schools? That's going to be juicy. So it's really going to be a fun one. And you don't want to miss that. That's going to be a tag team. Jengles is returning. And next Wednesday, we already talked about Bosch and T-Jump. And then we have a panel that we're setting up on the 28th. Christian versus Atheist versus Pagan versus Pantheist. So you don't want to miss that one either. We're excited about it. And let me know what are your thoughts, though? How are your lives going? I want to say thanks so much, everybody, for just being here. And we are excited about all of what's been going on in modern day debate, as it's getting pretty busy. So thank you so much for your support. And Dr. Deuce, that guy from the debate. Let's see. Yep. So Dr. Deuce clearly just trying to antagonize demon mama. And it's like, I don't understand. So like Dr. Deuce, like why would you say that?  Is that it's like clearly you're showing yourself to be a person who can't give a good response to their arguments. You just look like you're trying to attack them. And so to err, I have no hard feelings. Seriously, I hope that you don't take it personally. I know that was pretty brutal. So yeah, if you were joking, I am sincerely sorry. But if you weren't joking, I'm not really sorry. But Bubble Gum Gun says, I got a super chat for Benny Boy. And I'm sure that's going to be interesting. Resvet of Gores says, OK, no, I don't want to picture that. Manny Panda says, my Monty Python question was actually, oh, parody and jokes. Meme insults and cultural references can be edgy and get close to the line. Line of comedy is important. Matthew Samara says, that's an entertaining topic. And Dave Langer says, chat did a great job at helping the mods out tonight for calling out the anti-transformers. Yeah, I do think that the chat did a good job. I do it to be fair. So like, I am thankful for you mods. I did notice and I don't know if it was because if it was a coincidence, but like some people were saying things like T-Jump is dishonest or T-Jump is dumb or, you know, there were some things where it was like mods, like, and I was deleting it, but I was also kind of wondering like moderators, like we got to make sure that both sides, even the kind of a conservative guy is not being trashed too. So I know that you're probably busy. So I'm not going to, but I just, I did notice like some of those were like getting through and I kind of like watched them for a while because it was like, did it just get missed on accident or, but I know that the mods are busy. So it may have been a coincidence that they were about Tom, but Touare says, I'm actually a huge fan of this channel, but I'm regretting engaging at all. Well, you didn't actually say if you were actually joking or if you're like being serious, if you were serious, like again, I just have no, no apology, but if you were joking, like I said, I'm sorry, but that's all I can say, but want to say thank you so much folks for all of your support. And so what are your thoughts though? Thanks Platinum for saying we were a bit overwhelmed at points to be honest. I agree, I believe it. There was a lot going on in the chat. And so we do appreciate what you've been doing. And like I said, that's kind of where I was thinking like, well, they've got a lot on their plate right now as there's been pretty crazy in the chat, but what, let's see. What are your thoughts Touare said, I did say I was joking. Then Touare, I sincerely apologize. If that was a joke, then I really do apologize. I didn't think it was and that's why I went off on you, but it looks like you were joking. And so I am sorry that I said that. And Haxed said, I apologize if I cross the line. I didn't think you did at all. Like I didn't see anything. So let's see. Amanda says the chat was a little wild tonight, but one thing I want to ask Amanda, are you okay with going to those, the discord like meetings? Where the moderators meet? I just want to be sure just that way, because it is true that we're trying to kind of like narrow or kind of like round up all the moderators to be sure everybody's on the same page. And so we do want to be sure that you're okay with doing like that extra work. And so they oftentimes meet during debates. That's what Bob has told me.  So if it's something like Tom is so dishonest, I'm like, I'm okay with just giving them a warning, just bopping them, deleting their message, and maybe timing them out and saying, hey, like for real, if you do it again, we're going to ban you for good. But it depends on the context. So I'm totally cool with just playing it by ear. And let's see. And Hax, or yeah. So thanks in Hax for apologizing and being so real. So I appreciate you owning it. And then praise I am that I am apologetic says beta. That's true. I'm kind of a beta. But cookie man. Thanks for coming by. I said, what was the most influential book you've read? That's a great question. Let me think about that. I'm going to take my blazer off because it's super hot. This is like the, this is, I'm going to delete this later. I feel so naked without my blazer. Oh, and now I'm like getting all sweaty because I took it off. Let's see. Most influential books. Oh yeah. Hannah Anderson. So you're regarding your question about who to ban is what I'd like to do is we give them a warning if they say that somebody's dishonest to say, hey, you know, gotta give you a warning. If you do it again, we got to block you. And so tonight we were really quick to ban people who were doing the, oh, is this a man or a woman? Questions in the chat. The reason being, like it was if I highly, highly doubt that all those people were just popping in and happen to ask the same question. I think a lot of those people were probably people with multiple accounts logging in to just jump back in and keep throwing poop in the chat. I also think it's, I think some of them may have been there watching for a while and they're like, yeah, we're all going to do it. And it's like, if you've already seen somebody else timed out for it, that's why it was like, we were pretty hard. We banned a lot of people for asking if a, so-and-so is a man or a woman. And it's like, well, you guys, if you're watching the chat, you know, it's like those people who were saying that, it's like, they knew what was going on. Like they were trying to jump in on it and dog pile. Rashad Abdul-Salam, thanks for coming by. We hope you were doing well. And Bubblegum, gonna get to see you again in Sienna Mobs. Thanks for coming by. Thanks for that heart. And Tanner Formosa, thanks for coming by. Glad you made it. Flum666, glad you made it. And then Wilczak90, thanks for coming by. Oh, most influential books I've ever read. So the Bible, maybe the Declaration of Independence, the Communist Manifesto, maybe, I don't, what is it? I'm trying to remember the Atheist Guide to Reality by Alexander Rosenberg was pretty interesting. He's a hard-nosed naturalist. And it's pretty interesting. He has what some would call reductionist views, but I'm like, this is pretty interesting. Let's see. Reservoir to Gorsuch, the chat was a micro example of de-platforming, ironically. I know, I agree. You're actually right. It was. Jokes and context are fine, but unrelated insults are just unwanted.  Yeah. And then Matthew Samard says, I thought they looked like brother and sister, similar traits. Maybe a little bit, but I'm trying to think of books that have influenced me big time. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Pretty interesting for real. And I know that most of my, most of the other people, the other PhD students, if they heard me say that, they would be like, but it is pretty interesting. I feel like all the other people in psychology, I'm like the only person in psychology that would just go, they'd be pretty, what's the word I'm looking for? Oh, I forgot about the Twitch chat. Thanks for coming by. My dear friends on the Twitch, so sorry that I'm so slow. Brooks Barrow, good to see you. Tepotzel, thanks for coming by. Sienna, 2002, pumped, you are with us. And CD rank A, thanks for coming by as well. And Oracle, pumped you here as well as, let's see. But yeah, thanks for letting me know about that Tepotzel. And so we are excited about the future folks. We hope that this channel is fun for you. And folks want to remind you, I am pumped about this. See here, this is my actual phone. I use it a lot. I call people on it. I also want to show you this. You might be thinking like, oh, James, what else do you do on that phone of yours?  Okay, I will show you what I do. I right now am opening up my favorite podcast app, which for me is podcast addict. Now, for you, it might be any of the, for example, apps on the far right of your screen right now that you are seeing Spotify, Apple podcasts, all of those. Folks, we're on virtually every single podcast. So all of these debates that happen here on YouTube, they end up on the podcast. And also, folks, if you haven't already, want to encourage you, pull out your phone right now. Maybe you're watching the debate on the phone right now. I would open up your favorite podcast app, look up modern day debate by typing it in there. And you can find us. See, you can see us at the very middle. Do you see on screen modern day debate? You can see in the top on the middle. I actually do because sometimes my attention is split during the debate where I'm keeping an eye on the chat and also watching the debate. And so sometimes I actually download debates after they happen so I can listen to them. So want to encourage you though. And if you already have, maybe you're like, man, I already have downloaded. Well, I've already found modern day debate on my favorite podcast app. Want to encourage you. Give us a rating. That helps and subscribe, follow whatever it is. Or I should say, if you give us a rating, that really does help. According, that's the word on the streets. And so we do appreciate your support, because that really does mean a lot. And we are excited. If you're on sale, that says overcast. Oh yeah, we're definitely on overcast. No joke. We're on Google podcast. We're on Pandora. We're on Audible even. We're on Amazon music, iTunes, you name it. I am excited that we, yeah, that's right. And Kono's right. Save that mobile data. And you can folks. That's one thing I love is that it's like, hey, you can save on your mobile data. All you have to do is download each debate. On your favorite podcast app while you've got Wi-Fi. And people tell me, like I said, you guys know what I usually, people have told me, namely, when they're working out, while they're driving on their commute to work, while they are cleaning around the house, they're like, ah, it's just nice to have something on in the background. And then it's long form of content. So you don't have to hit play on the next recording every 10 minutes or something like that. Don't get me wrong. Those podcasts are good too. But if you want a long one, that you can just let it play while you do a lot of stuff, like, hey, it's kind of useful for that. So that's cool. And let's see. Apricot Sloth, good to see you. And engaging with Bubblegum Gun, I see. And then that's what, of course, is James the lego calendar. His days are numbered. That's funny.  Thank you so much for joining us. But de Bosque, thanks for coming by. We were pumped that you were here. And let's see. Let's see. We are pumped, though. And so I'm just enjoying hanging out with you. So thanks, Kimo, Maki. Thanks for coming by. We hope you're doing well. Are you doing well? Let us know. And so, yeah, I'm kind of curious. Like, what's going on in your guys' lives? What are you pumped up about? What's new? I'm just glad to hear. So what does YW mean? Santa's sack says YW, James. Does that mean, yeah, what? I don't know. Actual Socialist Trash, thanks for your comment. Said, where did your blazer go? I left for a while. Did you strip while I was gone? Did I miss it? It is right here next to me. It's so warm in here. Today was warm. So if you thought I looked sweaty, I am. I got a little bit of a glisten. But, yeah, I want to say thanks so much, everybody, for all of your support. And so, folks, I do want to encourage you, though. I, like, I am excited. Feel free to reach out to me via email at moderndatabate.com. If there's something I can do to make your day better, we really do appreciate you hanging out here.  We hope that you are doing well. I mean, we can't name everybody. You know, all the groups, every demographic, we are glad that you are here. And so, thanks for hanging out with us. We will see you tomorrow for that juicy veganism debate. Thanks so much, everybody. Keep sifting out the reasonable from the unreasonable. Take care, and I'm stoked to see you then.