Thanks very much, but you've come in quite good numbers. Just about to start. Sorry, that's fine. Okay, so as I mentioned last week, this week we have, this is our third visiting lecture, and this time we have a person from working within London, but working on all sorts of very interesting issues around language and health, especially in Africa. But today, Professor Tope Omoni, who is from Rohampton University, where he is a professor of social linguistics and also runs a language, a centre of language research, will be talking about something he said he hasn't been doing for a while, which is talking about issues around religion, language and hip-hop music. He'll probably talk for about 40-45 minutes, but it would be really good if we could have a few questions afterwards. So think about what you might want to ask. Over to you. Alright, thank you very much. Thank you for inviting me to show us. It's always good to come back here. It's almost become like a second home or second base for me in London. So, yes, I haven't spoken or talked hip-hop now for about four years. Four years? Four years to a gathering such as this. I've done the old conference paper or so outside of the UK. So this is a welcome return to something that I was a little bit passionate about. But I think I'll begin with the disclaimer. I was watching an interview of Denzel Washington. This must be about a decade ago. You think back a decade ago. Where were you? What were you doing ten years ago? Yes? And Denzel Washington on that interview was asked whether he regretted the fact that he went into film rather than hip-hop. And at that point he was just turning 50, I think, if I recall correctly, on the verge of 50. And he said, well, no, he was comfortable where he was at. That as an actor, the future was still his. But there weren't that many 50-year-old rappers around the place. And it was so humorous back then. I thought about it then. And wondered, where are the 50-year-old rappers that are still on stage anywhere if they're not dead at 25 or 30? They're retired, retired at maybe 35 or 40. So that made quite some sense. So when you think about me now having hit 60 and now standing and talking about hip-hop, who was that 60-year-old man doing talking hip-hop? What does he know? Hip-hop has outgrown me. So some of the things that you're likely to hear this morning are also things that are maybe a little bit dated. But I'm going to try and make it as current as possible. Essentially what I want to do is to explore only hip-hop because we're all used to hip-hop. Hip-hop is the conventional. So when you use an adjective like that or pre-modification as those of you in linguistics would understand, only pre-modifies hip-hop. That means that this is a kind of hip-hop. As soon as you pre-modify, it's not the mainstream because the mainstream does not need pre-modification. So this is a kind of hip-hop. What I'm claiming is that there's a consequence of cultural transformative and hybridizing processes. Cultural transformative, what does that mean? What does that mean? Cultural change, social change, shift or shift, hybridizing the coming together of cultures. Now the cultures that are coming together, as far as holy hip-hop is concerned, are secular cultures and religious cultures. Secular cultures and religious cultures. But secular cultures, these are our social normal, everyday things that we do, things of the world that we do. So those are getting mixed with religious culture. And in language, because we are students of language, we see how religious language takes on secular values and vice versa, vice versa. So holy hip-hop as an aspect of socio-cultural change, there's this book from 2010. It's an edited volume in the SLR sub-field. SLR stands for Sociology of Language and Religion. The Sociology of Language and Religion changed conflict and accommodation. And it's in this book that I first set out holy hip-hop as a field of inquiry and the ways in which it differs from hip-hop as we know it. So I'm going to talk a little bit about hybridity and globalization. I've been told not to make this too theoretical so that you can enjoy because it's fun. This is a fun area. I'll tell you how I came into researching this. I loved hip-hop music and still do to some extent. And spent a huge chunk of my salary buying CDs and stuff like that.  And when I calculated over the course of six months how much I had spent on this love of mine at the time, I decided it was necessary to get, apart from the enjoyment of the music, it was necessary to get something else out of it. So that's when I began to think more seriously about what it can add in terms of quality to my scholarship, my research. So I would attempt to define and theorize what it is and then the kind of methodology that you use in this field, this area, and then a little bit data as well. Hip-hop studies. This is something that you find in cultural studies you find it in sociology, you find it in religious studies now, religion and hip-hop. So there are several disciplinary areas that are interested in hip-hop. That's why we say it's multidisciplinary. But it is also interdisciplinary when you think about the theoretical frameworks that are used in engaging with issues around hip-hop. So it's possible, and as you will find, some of the references that I have here are not people in linguistic studies. So Homi Baba, for example, is from cultural studies and sociology. So they draw on multiple theoretical frameworks within different disciplines. And that's the justification we have for that. Okay, between sacred and secular negotiation and appropriation, the title that we started with, if I just double back, between JC and Jay-Z, what do you think JC stands for? Anyone? Jesus Christ. Absolutely, that's obvious. Yes, between Jesus Christ and Jay-Z. Now, a lot of people would not say the two things, hip-hop and Christianity or JC and Jay-Z, in the same synthetic string. Because the one is sacred and the other is secular. The one is sacred and the other is secular. But what we're saying now is there is actually some kind of towing and throwing going on between the sacred and the secular. Okay, some kind of negotiation. And resources of the sacred are being appropriated in the secular and resources of the sacred are being appropriated in the secular. So both ways. So if you think about Kanye West, for example, there are some songs that he has done where he has some religious references and he mentions Jesus. Does that make his music holy hip-hop? No, he's doing conventional hip-hop, but he's drawing on some of the resources of the sacred. Because in some of those songs he still uses what you might describe or refer to as swear words. Transnational cultural events as a framework. So in other words, we can also look at these negotiations and appropriations that we're talking about from the point of view of beyond the nation state boundary, cultural events that bring together people from different national backgrounds or national contexts. So when you talk of the Grammys, for example, the Grammys bring together artists from different parts of the world. So there are British artists there, French artists, there are German artists, there are US artists who are all there at the Grammys. Okay? So these kinds of events, this is just music. Of course in film, Hollywood, the globe, and other award ceremonies that you have, quite a lot of those entail or involve cross-border movements of culture and of practitioners of culture, those people. And I've just cited, again, 2006, that's 11 years ago. These were the groups that I became interested in at the time, and Thais who were performing at the Excel Center at the time and had to go and try and watch them. And now I've got a PhD student who is researching Polish transnational hip-hop artists who are going back and forth between London and Warsaw, performing here and performing there. And they have fans who travel with them who go and watch their shows and all of those. And there are issues of identity. So the negotiation that we talked about is not just negotiating trading cultures, but also how identities shift when these movements occur. Okay. I skipped that. Several confluences, meeting points, cultural in-betweens. In-betweeners, yeah, in-betweeners. So it's neither there nor there. They're in-between. And this is the hallmark of the base claim of Homi Baba's the location of culture from 1994. And his definition of what hybridity is. In social linguistics, we have since tapped into that. And so people talk about third culture. Yes, they talk about third culture, which is hybrid. Hybrid form. More recently, in traditional social linguistics, people would talk about code switching in-between A and B. And now they talk about trans-languaging. They say, well, it's not moving between A and B. It's actually one kind of code which has elements from both of these. So trans-languaging would, in some peoples conceptualization, would show elements of hybridization or hybridity. The idea that you have all of these people who subscribe to hip-hop and recognizing hip-hop as a culture. Hip-hop is a way of life. It's a view, a world view. So they refer to the hip-hop nation. And the hip-hop nation is such that it doesn't recognize the territorial boundaries that we have or the United Nations. So whether in Japan or in Malaysia or in London or in Johannesburg in South Africa or in Brooklyn, that membership is recognized of that community. I think in linguistics, some people would also say maybe that's a discourse community or they might call it a community of practice depending on what angle they were coming at. So that nation has a language. That nation has language. And that's a way that hip-hop artists talk. They have some registers that we associate with them. We recognize them by. So if you, for example, have, and it's not exclusive to them now because it has permeated the social scene. So you have a lot of people go, yo, yo, what's up? Yo, what's up? I don't know how they do those fingers. Is there anybody here? Yeah? Okay. So I told you there are better hip-hopers here. All right, good. So they have all those things and they have meanings. So the language. I also want to mention that the language is not just in the oral. It's also, in a broad sense, couture. Couture, the culture. It's a language. It's an expressive code. How they dress. I'm convinced that I am past myself by date as a hip-hop person. But I thought I'll show you. So in the past I've had bandana and some of the things on my grills and my teeth. But you can see my gray hair now. That would really look ridiculous. So you're not allowed to laugh. Okay. So I have a bling. Yes? Bling. Blinged up. Aha. Now that's part of the paraphernalia of membership in that community. Yes? Part of the paraphernalia. Because I'm talking holy hip-hop, what I've got there is a cross. Yes? I've got a cross. Then I've got something from Judaism. There as well. Okay. Glossolalia. I don't know how many of you have heard this time before. Glossolalia. Right. Okay. This was something that was in social linguistics literature in 1971. Where were you in 1971? Okay. So Samaritan. Yes? Samaritan in 1971 coined that. And it's what we call in modern day parlance speaking in tongues. Do you know speaking in tongues? Yes? Evangelical Christians speak in tongues. That's what Samaritan called glossolalia at that time. And he claimed or people have claimed that it is possible to do a phonological analysis of glossolalia and be able to tell what it is that it sounds something like this. Glossolalia. That's speaking in tongues. Now when you record that and then you try and do a phonologue, I'm not convinced that the thoughts in my mind or in my head, as I said what I just said, that an analysis by a sociolinguist will expose what I have just said and then you try and do a phonologue. I'm not convinced that a sociolinguist will expose what I have just thought and prayed about in that. But as a scholar I would not foreclose it but it's intriguing. Yes? It is intriguing. Now access to that is like access to the language that hip-hop artists also use. Because if you're not used to the code then you might exactly you might not really be able to decode what's going on but the nation knows it. And one of the one of the proponents of the existence of this nation hip-hop nation is Alim Sami who operates out of Stanford University in the United States. Globalization of religion uses the same conduits the same channels and tools as the globalization of culture. The globalization of culture is about flow. Yeah? So if religion is flowing through the same conduits as culture then we can understand how hybridity may be inevitable. Yes? Maybe inevitable.  Yeah? Okay. Emergence of multiple centers and alternative narratives. Now a lot of people tell a story because hip-hop is about telling stories. But the story or the narrative the mainstream narrative is that this is an American form is something that grew out of America out of Brooklyn but today we have multiple centers or there's a debate that there are other centers apart from the American story. Now that's a book that we use in sociolinguistics the ethnography of communication that is edited by Del Himes and John Gumpers. Do you know that book? Gumpers and Himes? No? Okay. Check it out. Directions in sociolinguistics ethnography of communication is a useful book. And in that book there is a chapter on Turkish adolescents verbal drooling verbal drooling verbal drooling and when I read that article or that chapter I had no clue this is so long ago I had no clue what hip-hop was was not big deal then but already Gumpers and Himes had a chapter on Turkish adolescents verbal drooling is two opponents who face each other and they use poetry to insult one another so I would insult you and your take up must rhyme with something that I have maybe the last word or something like that and if it doesn't then you have lost the battle and it goes back and forth like that. So Turkish adolescents were doing verbal drooling before hip-hop battles became known so do we want to say that the Turkish adolescents learnt it from the US no they didn't are there any Turkish people here I saw you smiling I guessed yes do you recognize this verbal drooling thing absolutely but from what I got that girls don't do it or do girls do it now girls do not do it it's a boys thing so there was the verbal drooling so that's one example of why we need to think about this multiple centers rather than a US narrative so the alternative narratives Dara Ji that's the Senegalese group that was famous in the 90s not so much these days and they did an album which had one song in it that they called the boomerang and that was an alternative a narrative to you know what the boomerang is when you throw the boomerang it goes away and then it comes back to you so what they claimed was that this thing that you are ascribing to the US actually was born in Africa this out of the tradition of the grill you know the storytelling practice or culture on the west African coast and and it went with the middle passage the middle passage is about slavery so when slavery happened they took their storytelling narratives on their storytelling practices with them to the plantations and this was what they entertained themselves with over time now so they said storytelling started here it went with the middle passage to America and it has come back home so when you talk about Dara Ji at that point they said well no we are not copying America we are doing something that we've always done we had it we sent it off and it's not come back to us so it's ours we're not borrowing okay so I explained at the beginning talking about the modification that Holy Hippo was a subgenre some people would describe it as alternative Hippo open to contestation it is defined by the community of practice who are the people who do Holy Hippo Pentecostals Pentecostals in Christianity but you also have Muslim Hippo you have Muslim Hippo at the time that I was working on entice and one or two other people there was a group out of Birmingham or Manchester they were called Mecca to Medina Mecca to Medina they were in the language of Hippo badass rappers they were badass rappers I had to say that because we need to realize that it's not just in Christianity that you have Holy Hippo and now online if you go on Google YouTube you will find Hippo rappers have uploaded things in other religions of the world in other religions of the world so Buddhism or Buddhist rap in YouTube Taoists Hinduism all of these ones also have raps that you can go and have a taste of now so even though it's practiced by this group it has the core elements of what David taught called hip-hop in those days so they say well these are the elements I'm saying break dancing tagging is graffiti yes and what Africa Bambaata called over standing what do you think over standing means anybody no but you know understanding so understanding this is one step ahead of Bambaata claims it is not sufficient in the resistance struggle because hip-hop was quite often in the early days associated with resistance it was revolutionary it was not enough to just understand if you just understand then they could have you the authorities could have you the powers that they could have you so as a hip-hop culture person you have always to be one step ahead of the system and that's what he termed over standing you know where they're coming from you're ahead of the game over standing okay one more thing to explain about about holy hip-hop you know in in our secular world somebody says something to you say I don't believe you okay show me yes I don't believe you show me in other words if you show me then I might believe you so seeing is believing seeing is believing in our secular world but in the world of the Pentecostals believing is seeing it's a reversal believing is seeing so if you're operating from seeing is believing in holy hip-hop you're operating from believing is seeing so you can already begin to see that there are separations or differences within the household of hip-hop another thing whereas in conventional hip-hop people regard it as a way of life yes is the way they talk is the way they dress is the way they walk all of that so it's an end in itself yes hip-hop is an end in itself it's a real life in holy hip-hop it is a means to an end how am I doing okay it's a means to an end holy hip-hop is a means to an end and I explain what I mean by that see for your generation a lot of people became disenchanted with religion yes people became disenchanted with religion why would I why would I go to church why would I want to go to the mosque why why should I be religious when it's going to mean that I can't I can't listen to good music I can't dance to good music I can't do all these other things I can't dress in a hip fashion so holy hip-hop takes control of that situation and so the same baggy pants that you find in conventional hip-hop you find the religious hip-hoppers or the holy hip-hoppers they dress in their baggy pants in their baggy t-shirts in their baseball hats they dress the same way they wear blinks as well as I've mentioned but the purpose is to bring back your generation into the fold bring back your generation into the religious fold the religious community and boy I think to a large extent it has worked I think it has worked because suddenly you have this good music yeah well, why do I need Jay-Z's music when I have Governor B singing this beautiful Ryan's okay now at the time that I was doing this I have a friend or I had a friend an American who settled in Britain and worked part-time on what you might describe as a pirate radio station a pirate radio station doing hip-hop on that but religious hip-hop it is of mixed race and it was fascinating discussing hybridity with him because we went through a period in cultural analysis when mixed race people were described as half cast yes or mulatu half cast means full cast and so the critique of that is that it's not politically correct to describe mixed race people as that the biracial belonging to two races or dual heritage persons so this came to replace that and the way that they dealt with hybridity within that discourse becomes a point of reference for us in thinking about hybridity in relation to holy hip-hop as well and these mixes that I talked about of course the fact that they tag some as politically correct or incorrect suggests that you have tension and friction in that analysis and those come from conflict within the constituent identities religion or the sacred and the secular as I said the one things that you would have the same syntax train but suddenly through holy hip-hop here we are actually mixing elements off of this now the framework within which we notice or observe these tensions and frictions is what I describe as the center periphery so the center is the mainstream and the periphery is the alternative and hence was the alternative so holy hip-hop is the alternative conventional hip-hop is the mainstream that's the center so that's where the negotiation between that center and you know what that negotiation is a successful one because at that time too yes holy hip-hop or people have another name because it's not just hip-hop religious music generally escapes my memory now was not an award category in the mobile it was not recognized as an award category the Grammys didn't recognize that as an award category but today they actually recognize and acknowledge these forms of expression and that means the conversation or the negotiation that we mentioned earlier has been successful so well what used to be alternative is now mainstream as in you find them being equally acknowledged and recognized on the Grammy platform on the Grammy platform Center periphery Barack Obama at the time he was president he's no longer president now so let us dwell just a little bit on these two secularization when the base register is sacred and a deliberate process is put in place to modify it to the everyday that's secularization so you're starting out from a base register that is sacred it's holy religious you secularize by turning down the religious content or you use the religious material or element for the everyday and in secularization when the base register is secular it's secular and then religious after that so if you find a Pentecostal rapper who will say yo for example that base register is secular yo is is secular but in talking to a brother a religious brother in that context that's secularization so yo is not the secular word it takes on a new meaning a different meaning in that context of course there are issues around ratio in the mix how much of the secular are used in the sacred and how much of the sacred are used briefly you find in the literature hippopography and so on and so forth the way of life we've mentioned ethnography is this method ethnography means you enter the community that you're studying and you work with them g-force if I just quickly use that as an example when I first heard about g-force they were struggling they had just formed nobody knew anything about them and then they put an album out and so I wrote emails back and forth I interviewed them by email they never caught me to actually meet them in person because they were readily available within a couple of hours of sending an email to them they were right back to me and I was just satisfied with that and then they released an album and in the blinking of an eye they had a management team around them they were nominated for the mobile awards and then I wrote to them to say I'd like a meeting and I never, up until this day I never got a I never got a response and then I wrote to the management team I never got a response so make hay why the sun shines never live until tomorrow what you can do today I wish that I had met them and established a rapport before they became because suddenly fame came and they became intersexable so ethnography it means you have to be working very closely and watching them within that friend of a friend this is an approach that Leslie Milroy premiered in or used in her Belfast study in 1987 Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland being at notions of community and identity within that and language use concerts, observation so I mentioned my PhD student earlier he's gone to so many of this and then I ask him where are your chapters and he says I'm still collecting you've collected enough data I think you're beginning to enjoy these concerts more than the PhD that you're doing so observation interviews, interviewing the artists themselves either through writing or actually meeting with them and recording those media you have all these websites only hiphop.com where you can Muslim hiphop.com where you can download materials commentaries and so on that people have used so Kimba my friend that I mentioned who had worked in the Paris radio station his street name so even though he was a holy hiphop person they also have street names and his name was DJ Clarity yes DJ Clarity G-Force I've just mentioned The Truth, Grammy Awards nominee 2008, Blackstone reference to the CARBA baby Muslims that was another London group at the time baby Muslims, the youth the focus of the ministry this was fascinating fascinating because when you saw young Muslims in their late teenage in 1819 who were doing this a lot of other teenagers wanted to be part of this this was the thing I was referring to about bringing you back into the community into Mecca to Medina it's a journey okay so I ask Clarity what's what's this about your mom was you Kimba but your Clarity as far as everybody on the street is concerned and he said well Clarity came as a vision this was his response to me Clarity came as a vision and vision is a religious thing not exclusively yes we associate tend to associate vision with religion Governor Bee so this is a quote from some source is setting the urban music scene with Holy Ghost Fire Holy Ghost Fire so you can see the discourse the language of religion in there and Governor being an acronym for God's unique vessel now assigned that's what Governor means yes God's unique vessel now assigned but when you look that it actually looks like the governor of a place Kingdom child okay so I used I mentioned the Turkish thing earlier so battling was already happening long ago in some cultures the 100k battle was something that Clarity participated in and this this is a transcript of him it's your boy Clarity Kimba aka Paradise Skills you can see the religious references Paradise Skills listen I don't rap I revelate so they don't call themselves rappers they say they're revelators the book of revelation people who reveal that which you don't know yet cause word play is for artists but I was told prophets produce the artists do you see the tension as in I am one step ahead or one ledge above the rappers conventional rappers one step or one ledge above them use of bridging establishes link between Clarity the holy hip hopper and the community of rappers through his participation because the 100k battle was not something that only the holy hip hoppers were doing conventional hip hoppers were involved in that so by mixing with them and working with them that located them in that community of practice and it's a test of skill it's a regular thing that's what Lavi and Venga tell us about community of practice yes and they improve as a reason as a consequence of that and in the street setting of the battle where the contextualization where is it happening in line with subgenre practice in holy hip hop Clarity articulates a divergent identity away from the secular to the sacred through invoking paradise so he said he's got paradise skills the revelation and profit register analysis makes it possible for you to identify how he really does the separation register analysis reaffirmation of the distinction between conventional hip hoppers and those who explore hip hop for a religious end so you might call all of us hip hoppers but we have different objectives the religious ones are doing it you know as a means to an end and that end is going to heaven getting as many people to heaven as possible whereas the conventional is for being they're all sample sampling is something that hip hoppers do a lot it's just that with holy hip hoppers a lot of sampling that they do come from religious sources so Clarity's rare jewels album or song samples from Psalm 23 verse 4 yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I stay composed no fear complex so he's taking Psalm 23 and turn that into into rhyme though amongst gritty streets lost souls and petty beef I ready heat from my pen on a blank sheet my rap fit is a track meat taking battens from the crippled and weak taking battens from the crippled and weak so what's that taking battens from the crippled and weak you're assisting you're healing them giving them energy that Jesus was healing all those crippled and weak people that's what he sees himself as a prophet he talked about vision Clarity mixes the sound reference with the traditional hip hop idea of gritty streets of petty beefs so we've got a beef so he's using some of the codes of conventional secular hip hop we've got a beef and track meats athletics takes the battens from the crippled and the weak rise up and walk for those of you who are used to that literature the cripple Jesus takes the steak or whatever it was so he says rise up and walk go does the taxes need a holy secular or sacred but somewhere in between that's the hybridity we were talking about space now we mentioned Holy Baba before in social linguistics Rakesh Bhatt has done work on this notion of the third space this hybridity thing and it goes on like that because I've gone beyond my 40 minutes now I'll just finish Couture and other signifying codes the hijab controversy and hip hop's liberal fashion selective adoption or adaptation so the tension and the friction that we talked about you can see them so how do you do Holy Hip Hop when in convention or conventional society we have these debates going on in some places about the hijab different culture so that's religious culture and that's secular culture a secular culture is about hip hop Holy Hip Hop says well I'm hip hop too but I have these other cultures that you don't subscribe to adoption and adaptation religious blinks I showed you that at the big crucifixes Crescent's and Star of David this you can go there and see Holy Hip Hop ministry music is actually an established ministry in religion in Christianity there are people in the church whose business is the music ministry and they use music to minister yes they use music to minister so within that arrangement that's where Holy Hip Hop would be located they are in the music ministry yes in the music ministry welcome to HolyHipHop.com our mission since 1997 is to take the gospel to the streets take the gospel to the streets take the gospel to the streets through the global proliferation of spirituality enlightening Holy Hip Hop ministry music and entertainment glorifying Christ you see the objective it's plain unclearly stated so when I talk about it means to an end this is it we appreciate you visiting us thank you for your prayers support and God bless and then they put Psalm 146 verse 10 they never lose sight of the religious this is what Psalm 146 10 says the Lord shall reign forever even thy God O Zion unto all generations praise ye the Lord so there is a religious lesson that's a doctrine that's included there so you realize that the music is not the beat end all there's something beyond that the boomerang hypothesis suggests that the hip hop had little or no link to either Christianity or Islam yes that's what the boomerang hypothesis was because the storytelling practice of the grave of that time that was not religion based in fact Christianity history will show that Christianity was not there yet yes Christianity hadn't arrived applicability of social linguistics and discourse analysis tools from some of the things that I have said you can see I kept referring to social linguistics I talked about register analysis textual analysis in some of the things that we mentioned with reference to ratio variation in holy hip hop can we talk of a continuum is it possible that something which you have a circular there and a sacred there and that you can have points between the two of how much secular or how much sacred it is instead of using binary distinction one thing is happening in social linguistics scholarship or in scholarship generally a lot of people are moving away from the binary so nothing is that or that there are all those middle points you know that it's not exactly not exactly no statistics it is worth checking to establish the effect of holy hip hop on youth population for each faith so you can actually introduce statistics you can introduce statistics into your textual analysis as well by looking at the kind of codes that I used Sefini thank you 45 minutes because we started a bit late thank you very much for quite a fascinating talk that deals with a whole range of issues that goes way beyond just language or English but before I open for questions I think I'd like to quickly get into before the rest of the group starts and I put to you perhaps a rather radical statement and that would be would hip hop and the let's say the influence of hip hop have been possible without English the spread of hip hop what you've shown is quite clearly so if it weren't for English would we have what we've got now that's a very difficult question then but as as an indigenous language loyalist I would say yes so the Turkish thing that I mentioned earlier as long as we can establish that that Turkish culture you know existed independent of English it means that that aspect of hip hop culture so didn't need English too now if you're meaning would it be as elaborate or as big as it is now I'm not sure I know that in Nigeria for example there are a lot of a lot of people doing rap in local languages and doing rap in Pigeon English and Pigeon English is not English it's a language that's not indigenous to here it's indigenous to those parts of the world so in that sense the fact that they produce those songs there there is hip hop culture there and some of that then travels out into the west I'm thinking well globalization of culture and its flow inflow outflow will happen as a consequence of the forces of globalization anyway I'm not able to categorically dismiss the size of the enterprise I can't I can't but I think that something is there that may have emblazoned but may be further assisted by the existence of English hip hop in these other parts of the world and there were quite a number of artists in different parts of the world who started out by actually mimicking American which is why so freaky I think that's one word that I got out of I don't know now whether 2003 but sometime in the 2000s a paper that he did and he was talking about Japanese Japanese and they're taking the English word and is there any Japanese person here no Japanese no freaky so freaky becomes freaky yes in Japanese hip hop in Japanese rap but we also have elements of other languages in English as we all know let me say something I came here today praying and hoping that you would not be quiet and silent now you've got to give me something I've given you something so I'm expecting something in return I said to my students and I talked to them like this I think I know but from the questions that they ask me they let me know that I really don't know that's what I'm expecting good yes how do I think hip hop would develop in the future because it's a it's a multi-million dollar business people begin to make a distinction between commercial hip hop and real hip hop yes real hip hop now my issue is if you do real hip hop you still need your daily bread yes you still need your daily bread so it's not possible to do away with commercial hip hop and because of the way that the entertainment industry works yes quite a lot of people who probably started out holy hip hop or holy music church music and we have a few examples like that Whitney Houston you all know Whitney Houston you've heard the name Whitney Houston and she started off singing in church and there are lots of people like that before she became the popular entertainer yeah as far as hip hop is concerned I have a feeling that the holy hip hop brand across religions will grow some more will grow some more maybe at some point because we're always constructing and deconstructing so people go into religion they come out of religion maybe they go back into it again so it's an off and on it's an off and on thing the ones who are managing the business exactly what they're looking for and if one person is not playing ball anymore then they look for somebody else who will play who will play ball the involvement of hip hop in politics is another dimension to that so where would hip hop go if the next prime minister is a rapper in Britain I see you all smiling how can that ever happen who what about what happened in America so it can't happen anything can happen so you mix commerce with politics with an aspect of culture you can't cap it it's kind of difficult to say this is how fight will go or it's gonna die hybridity it's kind of sacred forming into it's own kind of just like American vernacular more precisely the hip hop English that we see particularly in American society and in British society if I just try and tease out something here American vernacular English is the language of a community of a group in some literature they actually call that ebonics yes so it's expressive of a particular culture expressive of a particular culture it conveys that culture it represents those people the people who do holy hip hop here do their holy hip hop in the language of here dialect of here but that's the same thing that you have in UK rock yes UK rock music people do their rock music as UK artists in the language of here now there's no gain saying the fact that they have also done research and seen elements of American English or Americanization in the language that artists use in this place from time to time but not in a sustained way yes so the flow the linguistic flow or the language flow will always be there because of the that believe you know that hip hop started there that's the home that's the holy grail of hip hop so young persons just starting out who are looking for their own identity searching for it might take that but as they get established they come to realize I really don't need to sound American to move this because in fact there are a lot of British artists who go across the Atlantic and have become really popular Adele for instance she's the doyen of America they love her to bits in the place but she never tries to speak American she speaks British English when she's there in fact London yes that's what Adele does because then that becomes the identity of the brand that she's carrying yeah so you might find mixes here and there between the different dialects that we have but the essence and we try to run away from essence because there is no essence as far as identity is concerned we constantly say this it's constructed so I probably would sound more American if I wanted to create a certain and I would say this for those of us who came to the English language as a second language you know postcolonial context I find that when I go to America after three or four days with my American friends I sound more American and when I come back to Britain with my British friends after three or four days I sound more British you know so we're constantly doing this stuff because it's a reflection of the community that we're engaging with I don't know whether that of the sacred and the secular yes oh I see what you're saying I see what you're saying so like trans-languaging the example that I gave you remember I said with code switching you have language A and language B yes two distinct languages and then we take elements of A and we insert into it and say ah okay you're code switching you're going from A into B but current scholarship now out of the US and out of here people are talking about trans-languaging and say well it's not about A and B but it's about code that has its own and people use it you're not moving between languages you're just used this is all you know yes this is all you know now so yes it is possible that part of language change or social change in the long term might mean that when somebody gets on the rostrum on the platform they come out in a particular kind of code that people then recognize as because right now we were just saying it's mixing the secular and the sacred or mixing the sacred and the secular that's because it's in the process of becoming but it's always in the process of becoming because even the American and trans-languaging this is referenced to a point in time who knows what the theoreticians will be saying for the next five years it took all that from the 70s people talking code switching until now only about a few years back they start talking about trans-languaging so it's taking a while scholarship is like that it keeps changing so it is possible that holy hip-hop may become associated with a defined defined code an element of dynamism an element of dynamism it's not static nothing is static I like the fact that you use the word audience Alain Bell talks about what he calls audience design in sociolinguistics we talk about recipient design recipient design that is something we constantly do we tailor the way we talk the things we say or talk about according to the audience that we have yes? so does Kanye West tailor the way that he that he sings or speaks according to a particular audience that he probably does depending on what he wants to do with the particular album but I would think more along the lines of people who use music to make ideological commentary or statements yes? to teach people something on idea on ideology so they would use the language that the targeted audience can understand the code that they can understand I'll give you an example because we were talking about Ebola just before we came into class when Ebola happened in 2014 there was a replay of 1985 Sa is this Sa now or Lord Bob Galdorf is this Sa or Lord do you know Bob Galdorf? Sa Galdorf rallied the artist together to do a rehash of 1985 the song that they did for the Ethiopian farming at that point to help the Ebola victims but these were all mostly western artists all singing in English but before they did that on the west African coast in the countries that were concerned or affected by Ebola they had also rallied and got together a group of local artists who sang using multilingual resources they sang using multilingual resources so they had English they had French they had Walloff all these other languages on the coast there and then there was a debate and the debate was the magnitude of what Sa Galdorf put together was global that was big but the resources that these guys on the ground on the west African coast had was limited but in terms of penetration they reached more people those local artists reached more people than the big global and some people call that a charade they said it was a charade now because what the Ebola public health authorities wanted to do was to teach the people the local people how not to get infected by Ebola and so they chose the languages of the people so this is in reference to your audience design and that was successful to a large extent because it cut down the number of infections drastically they didn't make money it was not for the purpose of making money that was an ideological thing that they were doing at the point in time so to go back to America and go back to Kanye West I don't know what drives I was wondering this a couple of days ago just softened the net because when Hillary Clinton was running for president they had a selfie of a Kanye what's her name? Kim Kardashian and Hillary like that all three of them and then when the inauguration was about to happen there was this news that was going around that Kanye was getting invited to come and perform at President Trump's inauguration and I said I can't reconcile the two things how do you take a selfie with one candidate and then you go and do for another one he didn't add up so in terms of this commercial thing he probably saw that I don't have confirmation for it but he probably saw that as a good platform to get into the new regime since I was clear that Hillary was not going anywhere I can get into the new regime I do the show for free for Trump so the audience might be something that they have in mind if people put songs together for teenage girls they would use the language that teenage girls understand and that they can reconcile to so audience, yes, audience design is an important thing it's something that is well worth researching or investigating to establish whether really and in order to do that your strategy would be interviewing you would have to interview artists to get them to respond to you so is this part of your consideration when you do the packaging of your music, do you think about the audience in terms of selecting the language that you use yeah okay thank you very much for the brave souls who asked the question so for our next speaker which will be in early March I'm sure you can come up with a few more questions as well I'd like to thank you again very much for your very interesting talk thank you that is actually much more than just looking at English


All right cyber traders welcome on back here this Thursday September 16th shortly after 2 30 p.m. Eastern time welcome on back for our Afternoon meeting great to see Chuck Bonnie Norman Patrick Nancy who picked up a nice profit just now in the stock Lptx we got a lot to talk about here today and great to see all of us Otherwise live inside the cyber group room and if you're joining us today on Facebook live or YouTube our social streams today Welcome on back so for right now We'll start off with the stock on the screen as always life Not really the best move right now ended up making a nice little pop after the market opened up was a nice pre-market play After 9 a.m. At least so pay treated us pretty nicely here today. Oh here. I got my weekly chart up One second it treated us very nicely today or at least in the morning and it treated us really nicely back from earlier in the week You know potential set up off of 10 perhaps if we see more buying coming in often another breakout from 10 Perhaps but you know what I'll keep it on the side list. I know that it is shortable right now And it was from this morning. So, you know, perhaps this could be a great opportunity either way I wouldn't be surprised if I do put this on the main list at the end of it all But you know what we'll do is at least go right from top to bottom. We don't have class coming up later on today We don't really have to talk about Bitcoin until tomorrow, but hey, we'll start right from the top because Although life treated us very nicely earlier today Personally speaking and I'm not just personally speaking for a bunch was live inside the trading room today this opad stock Oh my goodness.  I wasn't able to trade that You know what you could have your INDP. That's completely fine because I got my opad trade here So you could see that I have my chart all lined up and I did a lot of this work in Pre-market so, you know, these are all lines. I put up preemptively leading into the market open This is my main trading platform that you're seeing here But ended up making a really strong under and over move a slingshot from 14 I took an entry early on today from 14 I ended up taking an entry a bit later on into the morning right here off of 11 or I'm sorry off of 16 I should say I don't know where 11 came in from but 16 made for a great entry here Later on into the afternoon myself and Patrick. We're watching this right off of 1650 initially That was the opening halt print from this stock Oh, no, actually, I think that was the opening bell print actually leading into the market open today Nonetheless, this stock has been trading really really well You might think this is a super volatile stock and it is doesn't make it necessarily easy with the volatility But if you're very good at identifying where the big support levels are where the big resistance levels are and again You should be identifying that not now not right now at 2 30 in the afternoon You got to get your homework done early on so we had the stock on our pre-market list It was on the morning watch list So we had all the time in the world in pre-market to at least identify where those levels could be and with that It surely is paid off. So, you know, if you're following the smart money following the big money for that matter It's made for a really nice trade and not gonna toss the e-word there But it is pushing back up pretty nicely back now The purple line of my chart is actually just a strong resistance from the chart 1844. That wasn't really an iceberg level per se 19 is the stronger iceberg level ahead. You could see it just you know moved up to 19. I don't know maybe it broke it Nope didn't even break it Just kissed it touched it perfectly not even a false breakout, but it came right back down So, you know, hey opad given how volatile the stock still is and I say that in a good way Volatility creates opportunity. We'll put the stock on the main list to begin the opad stock It was also breaking all-time highs going into this morning's pre-market So, you know furthermore, that's that's as good of a reason as any to try and follow this stock here Alright, so, you know, it's funny. I made a brief mention for any of my old school wrestling heads professional wrestling I don't watch it nowadays, but I used to as a kid growing up. It was funny It's like, you know, this was like a Royal Rumble day where it after one stock making its move It was another and then after that it was another stock making its entrance and making a big pop and break out here So as we keep going, you'll see what I mean. We'll go to LIDR I don't really remember calling this one out at least but it looks like this made a nice pop today Ended up making a push roughly from 750 maybe even that seven ended up breaking out over nine pretty nicely heading into the Early parts of the afternoon. Hell, this stock topped off all the way above 12 12 25 But I just think the stock get halted on the way down Got halted on the way up and then I guess just off the reopen from the halt this stock a clobber They didn't get halted on the way down, but nonetheless, that was pretty much the end of the show on this stock here LIDR. Alright, we'll keep it going though. We got the warrants for the IRNT. We'll skip over that at least LPTX one of the many stocks that were a part of kind of our Royal Rumble today, right stock ended up dumping off at first We thought it was gonna be a bust actually after it broke below a couple of huge iceberg orders on the bid Normally, that's a very bad sign once the support level breaks. There were two of them In fact, I think at 239 the opening print and then also I think at like 230 or 229 somewhere Long story short, no pun intended. I ended up jumping in this trade right here after 11 30 Eastern time I could have had it from the other support level if I jumped to it earlier But ended up breaking back above that major level 239 and this is the type of stock at least you could trade 2000 shares on you know depending on your account size perhaps just certainly more than the typical position you would trade It's cheap. It has really good liquidity on the order book consistently tight spread. So it reminds us. Well, hey Let's take a look at the CEI stock, right reminds us a lot like CEI You know just with how tight up a spread the stock had and how filled in the order book You know this stock actually came off of a I guess good news given the reaction But a very sharp drop off of the news regarding their 8k filing and pre-market CEI But you know hell this stock is still kind of close to the highs right now Breaking above the highs from yesterday and Tuesday that is so no I'm sure I'll come to the CEI in just a moment But wouldn't shock me if this gets added to the main list For the LPTX stock though going back to this stock now I had made mention just earlier in the afternoon about 20 minutes before we started the meeting that I was long on this trade from 269 right here I was hopeful for another pop at a breakout run up to 280 obviously didn't get it I ended up taking a 3 cent loss. I stopped myself out at 266 So unfortunately it took a small loss there nothing really dig it all But obviously just seems like this stock isn't really poised to make a pop now at this stage So, you know, I don't know keep it on your side list the LPTX trade here Perhaps we'll come back to it if it does make a big pop as I keep going through this scanner here, but see what else we got IRNT more from I mean really it made a dip shortly after the market opened up a bit of a slingshot from 38 up to 46 looks like it's making the same damn move right now actually it's making a push back up here as you could see up Towards 44 4450 ish, you know, hey, I'll say this with any more of a level four or five stock But if you did well on this stock from earlier today Hell if you did well on opad earlier today, you know who you are that it's as simple as that If you're a lot more uncomfortable trying to follow a stock that has a 20 30 cent spread Then hey, there's gonna be plenty of other fish out there in the sea to try and catch right so You know, I'll put this on the main list for right now Given where it's standing here the nice push back up from 38 back up to 44 and 4450 But I would be extremely careful though Just making sure that you're looking for the you know strongest pop the strongest possible levels Actually as we're talking you could see this breaking 45 right now actually made a spike up to 4532 and pulled back But look at the tape. This is why I'm saying you need to follow the stronger levels here folks because you know Off that crazy pop and drop. Well, it looks like an iceberg order got filled exactly at 45 And we would assume for that to be the case anyway But it just goes to show literally just reading the tape. You're able to identify where we had the next resistance So, you know, hey, I would assume 45 to be the next major top here still on this trade Alright for any of my bros out here today bros. I don't know what this company is Dutch bros ink New IPO relatively expensive as a crazier spread just like the IRNT trade So hey, if you want to fancy yourself and trade this stock with the breaking all-time highs today That's a good reason to try and follow any stock. I mean, that's why we're trying to follow opad But again, we got to try and maximize our opportunity here for something that's a $49 stock Although it's breaking all-time highs It's got a crazy spread if you want to gamble This is your stock if you don't want to gamble we'll find plenty of others folks Alright, so hey T T U E M. I ended up making a nice move today I didn't jump into this but one of many that we ended up calling out putting on our watch list and trading Effectively after the market opened up pot from two upwards to two twenty five ended up peaking right around two thirty four heading into the Leap morning, but yeah, right now stocks really flat So obviously doesn't look nearly as good now compared to what it had done from earlier today All right, so we'll keep it going QQ I remember the stock back from last week we called it out. It was a pop and drop type of play but You know ended up making actually a nice squeeze up this one I guess fell under our radar here made the pop up without us calling it out But made a move from 16 or 15 50 ish upwards towards 20 got halted in between there But when it reopened up, obviously this thing ended up just crapping out the other way really nasty shake back down You know, it's a shame if I could show that INDP stock the charts are all screwed up on trade station But from where be it left off on the INDP stock from yesterday I told you a stock was more likely than not to tank and it did it reminds me of this stock here ARQQ with the Pop-up that we had the nasty shake, you know, hey, it's squeezing back up a bit here It's not gonna shock me to see another dollar or two-point drop-off if not heading into the close today Then perhaps come tomorrow morning All right, can I finally jump to it now? I can good about time. All right, so full disclosure. I'm in TMC So I ended up jumping in this trade right from 12 I ended up getting stopped out at first on a trade. I was in from $12 and 13 cents I was anticipating a higher load to be built actually before it kisses 12 and I guess I was wrong with that I was trying to base it off of the initial loa of the day within the first 30 minutes of the market opening up So it's just to say this though folks for right now this stock with it breaking above 12 here on the way up I was you know ready to try and see the stock make a really nice run I'm up 10 cents on it right now or like, you know, eight or 10 cents on it I'm in from like 12 oh two entry price. I believe I have my stop set So if it craps out the other way, I'll close take a loss But yeah for right now TMC, I'll keep it on our side list It I dumped off after the market opened up today and although it's popping or although it broke over 12 here And although I'm in the trade it's got to really begin to go like Tick-tock like really soon right now I would love to see this begin to explode because if it doesn't I know what direction this thing is going in So unless it ends up popping right back up here Then I'm not as ready to put it on our main watch list at least for those that aren't in this stock already Skip around a bit jump back to life life was kind of on the side list It was the stock that we started this meeting off with at 230 here So, you know, hey, it's still a good setup around 10 I'll check back in with it one more time at least before we finish up and it got so many warrants out there right now NAK a little cheapy here. It's nice push on NAK We normally don't you know trade stocks, you know very inexpensive below a buck because normally they don't make as Consistent of a move, but hey, this stocks making a nice move right now And it's getting close to the highs that we had back from last week in the week before perhaps I keep it on the side. I guess, you know, keep a small eye on it afterwards here, perhaps All right, I think a little ask and I shall receive on a TMC by the way folks I'll jump back to that trade just once we finish up Okay, CO this was one from the pre-market. This looked really interesting leading into the open Unfortunately, this was actually more of a bust than anything I guess it made a small little pop after 930, but shortly afterwards like even before 10 o'clock Eastern time the stock ended up dumping off So, you know, hey could have made for a quick little opportunity at first But again volume died off and when the volume dies off for a stock, we know what's gonna happen after All right, then CEI we jump back to I guess at this point, right? So CEI we showed very briefly here a moment ago. Listen, it's got a hundred nine thousand share iceberg on the ask at 184 after that you think that there's gonna be a major top off of two But there's also one on the order book here at 195 So there's definitely just a lot of volume for this CEI trade to cut through and pop through in order for it to even Sniff to two dollars that is so I don't know I'm not as keen to put this on our main list right now and I'll be honest I'm gonna be really straightforward with you folks here because I wouldn't be me without being just completely honest This stock was such a tease yesterday So there is a little bias with this because I got chopped around on this trade It's not like I got my you know ass handed to me But you know, it's just after several break-evens and minus ones or minus twos You know listen, it's not a lot of money lost, but it was frustrating, right? So it ended up making a very sudden pop going into like 115 Eastern time here today Bobby called it out But it hasn't done anything since so, you know what? I'm gonna pass on putting this on the main list if it ends up popping You know right once we finish up this meeting as soon as I'm off the mic if it does, you know Hey at that point we'll call it out All right So what we'll do is jump right over to the loser's list right now folks There wasn't a whole lot down a lot this morning at least but Yeah market dropped off after the market opened up made a small bounce and is really flat right now So I'll tell you mg nx made a nice drop today from like 27 down to sub 20 albeit It is you know making a bit of a push-up right now I don't really feel a need to put this stock on our main watch list here I mean it has very thin volume on the book kind of like some of the others that are making a sharper trend up So, you know a little pick and choose there. I'd rather focus on something else Cde I think a mining stock if I'm not mistaken Pretty flat right now Not much else that I see folks The only thing that really piqued my interest outside of what we've kind of scanned for so far And I'm not going to put it on our list unless if unless if it's tanking. Uh, it's not the neostocks So there was some news out this morning or overnight regarding I don't know. I forgot the name off the top of my head big big Chinese real estate developer They ended up defaulting on a lot of bonds. So, uh, you know, that's why the china market was down a lot today yin China bullish etf it was down like seven plus percent this morning So I was looking for a big drop off after the open on a lot of the chinese stocks didn't get it And if anything right now you could see yin is still kind of uh at the highs and I guess trying to slightly recover Uh, yeah patrick that was it ever grand ever grand the real estate developer there. All right Uh, chuck on opa had nice 37 cent profit. He was in from just around 18 and You know, hey the stocks already on our list at this point just given them the overall volatility here But it's really got a pop over 19. That's the major level if you want to see continuation Life is pushing off a 10. There's the pop. All right. So if there is any sort of run on this livestock year It's like right now. So that's what we call the setup It's worth the opportunity if we can get a pop over major resistance. We did But is it going to continue to go? It's made a nice pop so far off the level So for that reason in particular, I am going to put this on the main list here the livestock But if it slams right back under 10, then I would just scrap it at that point All right. Ah, there we go. Nice profit from one of us on youtube today rjf. Welcome back It's been a little while I think since I've seen you there. I got 30 cents. He was in from 9 90 So that means it got out right at 10 20 there excellent Up perfect. Yes Yes, here we go Here we go folks Tick tock All right. So tmc Now I feel a lot more comfortable putting this on the main list here There we go. All right. So with that in mind folks, I'll tell you what unless if anything is looking like this year The tmc pop that is unless if anything is looking like this stock then I would call it I don't think there's much else that we're going to be really that interested in right now at this point If this slams back down suddenly and like make some freak stop out That would be the most embarrassing thing ever. Uh folks if there's anything else definitely let me know Yeah, one stock year for us. I got one. I don't think anyone had called it out yet Bctx it's not up like five plus percent or more. It's just at the high It's got a new high of the day alert on it. It's trading such little volume though, and I'm realizing that live right now Nope, we're gonna pass on this stock from the meantime. No go All right, folks, I'm gonna tell you what I got to focus on this tmc trade before I start losing profits on I'm in from 12 So I'm gonna post the list right now for all of us on youtube today and all of us on facebook Actually before you go how about this notice on the banner below It's not the same old link to buy the trial But actually for all of us on youtube and facebook live feel more than free to join us coming up this upcoming tuesday That's september 21st for a special edition of our traders talk q&a workshop We are going to continue to host that inside the cyber group room I always say this maybe two or three times across the whole calendar year We do this workshop on youtube just to give a quick taste of what it's be what it's to be like inside the cyber group room So that's coming up on tuesday september 21st So for dug or rjf or josh penn or daniel f on youtube today and anyone else otherwise if you would like to join on our Workshop you can go right to our youtube stream youtube channel That is if you're not already there that being youtube.com slash cyber trading you But if you'd like to ask any questions in advance for that workshop coming up on tuesday And there's going to be a couple of days in between of course We got a lot of stocks to talk about today a lot of stocks to talk about tomorrow I'm sure and on monday of next week But you know if you have any questions if you are going to be joining us for our traders talk workshop on tuesday the 21st What you could do is send over a quick email in advance right to my email address josh at ctu trading dot com For all of our students in the trading room right now like patrick and chuck and bonnie and kathleen and ray and brett all of us otherwise You folks know already so you know just on tuesday I know that i'll get a bunch of emails from everyone there But um, yeah, I just wanted to make mention of that We'll keep reminding all of us on youtube and facebook live going into tomorrow and really going into the uh 21st All right, we good uh from norman here at the at the horn here at the buzzer. We got the rsi stock not the indicator the equity Too choppy too choppy right now norman. I mean is that the highs it's up 12 plus percent So all of that I like and it's trading about eight nine thousand shares per minute in relation to the other uh Order is out there on the book. That's you know, that's a decent amount actually But for right now just like it looks so choppy. I'd rather follow something looking a little bit uh Little bit sharper perhaps all right folks. So for right now, I'm gonna call it I'm gonna clock out on this uh tmc trader very shortly here if not like right around 12 83 where it's at Then probably right around 13. All right, folks, but aside from that I look forward to speaking to all of us live inside the trading room in just a few moments I'll be back on the mic right around 3 30 talk to you soon You


What is up YouTube welcome back to our living room. We are the October so recently guys we reacted to scary movie It was hilarious you guys loved it You got said that we really should have watched screen before we watch this movie So I do know who ghost face is because of like the culture and stuff you ever seen this movie No, I haven't but I do know it came out in 1996 It was directed by West Craven and it's a 81 percent all rotten tomatoes West Craven Narik is yes, so that's the guy who does the nightmare on L Street series right West Craven I don't know. I trust you if you say that anyways guys, so this is screen man This is the original. This is one of those iconic slasher movies man This is one of those cold movies a lot of people really love this movie stay tuned to the end guys I'm let you know if I think and there's a whole reason why I skip this because I don't like scary movies like subscribe Come join the team hit us up on patreon guys five dollars flash pass.  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So call if I need anything I could have sworn I heard You love that joke since he was three years old What a compliment I know this song So how close do you think this is gonna follow the plot? I don't know. I hope she doesn't have a bar So it is pretty close Guys Steve or is for killed last night, and we're not just talking to kill Why don't we be killed ripped open from and She's just texting me in English not anymore. I found her hanging from a tree her insides on the outside.  How's you doing? We're gonna keep this very brief Sidney, please just want to ask you a few questions You're okay, Sidney. We were very close to Casey back.  Yeah, they did ask you. Why would they ask you if you like to hurt them? Because their bodies would gut it. They didn't ask me if I like that It's because there's no way a girl could have killed him That is so sexist the killer could easily be female. That's shaggy waggy How do you Good someone you take a knife and you slit him from growing the sternum He still didn't you used to date Casey? Ah for like two seconds before she dumped you for steve. I thought you dumped her from me.  I killed her it would certainly improve your high school killed still was with me last night Yeah, it was that before or after he sliced and diced Working. Thank you. Oh at the video store that they fired your sorry at twice I didn't kill anybody. Nobody said you did. Thanks, buddy.  I know it's so peaceful looking What doesn't know like such a good house to get murdered in yeah, yeah for real look at that porch perfect murder board You know the police and reporters and everything. It's like deja vu all over again So something bad must happen. She said it's like deja vu all over again. Yeah Maybe the town's already had a murderer maybe She seems like a smart young girl aware of her surroundings hopefully I thought he's about to be there right now. Yeah, sometimes movies just hit like Boyfriends even worth were discovered late last night by the girls The woodsboro double murder case Authorities are babbled by the lack of clues and the sabbath The town's in shock and no one can quite believe what is although This is not the first time this small community of woodsboro has endured such tragedy Only a year ago marine prescott wife and mother was found raped and murdered not far from this Her mom prescott Bro, that's her mama. I think so her mama got murdered. You think it was the same dude It's got to be right obviously. I don't know what it's just a weird mo He has a mom and then he has a high school kids a double murder. That's that's a strange motive to me That's beautiful It's past seven Tatum just get it in the car. Hello, Sydney. Who is this?  Well, I have no idea Scary night, isn't it with the murders and all of you something randy you gave yourself away Are you calling from work because Tatum's on our way over? Do you like scary movies? I like that thing you're doing with your voice randy. It's sexy What's your favorite scary movie? Are you most randy? That's so unoriginal. I'm disappointed in you Maybe that's because so who are you? Question is who am I? Question is where am I? So where are you? Your front porch. What's up with him in the porches? I keep calling for my front porch. That's the original part. Oh, yeah? Well, I call your bluff So where are you right? Can you see me right now? What am I doing? What am I doing? Nice try ran.  Dang Don't go up the stairs.  Are you able to come down on the station and answer a few questions here?  Tatum. You can't be here. There's official crime scene. Dad's out of town. All right. She's staying with us tonight. Does mom know?  Jesus the camera. Hurry. My name isn't jesus Sydney is that you in there? Was that Sydney Prescott they took away? I'm not talking to you. What happened to her?  Is that true? Can you tell? You're about 50 pounds overweight But when I say hurry please interpret that as move your fat That's almost better than the spoof bro. I know I don't like her one bit I hope she gets it. Don't worry, sir. We'll find him This movie is honestly creepy dude. I know I think it's gonna be just like in screen, but I'm really not sure I don't know I hear it's gonna be yeah Why don't you check the phone bill for christ sake call vital phone cop. They got the records of every number dial Thanks, Hank. We're on top of it. What were you doing over at sydney's house tonight?  I decided to go for a ride you happened ride by kasey becker's house No, no, I didn't sheriff.  Nobody asked you that He's implying it hard though. We're gonna have to hold you son till we get those phone records. It's crazy How can they just have stair downs in there?  Sell this costume every five and dying in the state There's no way to track the purchase. What about that cellular phone, bro? Well, we're pulling lumas's account. We won't know anything until the morning. I think you did it 20 years ago I would have said not a chance these kids today Hey, do we can we go now? Is that the same guy who plays doofy? What if mama tell you? No, no, no, no We're this bad. You're treating me like a man of the law. Sorry deputy do we boy, but we're ready to go now Everything is really similar though. I'm kind of shocked at how like closer But I guess shaggy's supposed to be uh the guy that was shorty shorty uh The mad one the the one that's like roiderade one Is that who he is? I don't know the one that drops her Yeah Don't move.  What happened? Are you all right? She's not answering any questions. All right. Just leave us. No. No tatum. It's okay. She's just doing her job, right? Yes, that's right. So how's the book? Well, it'll be out later this year.  But you might want some ice for that, right? I'll be right next door. How to get some sleep. Yeah. Yeah Do you really think Billy did it? Who's there Tatum? He was destined to have a flaw. I mean, he was too perfect California honey my dad. I don't think so. Take a message. No We'll get it Hello But why is he so obsessed with her though? I don't know because maybe her mom died Well, maybe he's he was obsessed with her mom. But like maybe he was obsessed with the death of her mom. Hello Sydney Prescott who escaped the fish's attack last night is the daughter of marine prescott It's handed down after the young sydney testified against him She was the key witness in the state's case against the man.  Her last year's been tough I know billy was released. His cellular bill was clean. He didn't make those calls We're checking every cellular account in the county and he calls made to you or kasey becker being cross referenced It's gonna take some time to find out Don't worry. You said it's cool. You'll be safe here. So how does it feel to be almost brutally butchered? No, they have a right to know Stop right there. I'm not here to fight. I just need to talk you owe me.    What is your problem? You got what you wanted cotton wearies in jail.  Your testimony put him away. It doesn't really matter what I think during the trial You did all those stories about me.  I think you falsely identified him.  He was drunk that night.  No, you saw someone leave wearing that the same someone who planted it in cotton's car Framing him. No cotton murdered my mother. So you think that she put the wrong guy behind bars And he's coming back to finish her off. Maybe nice. Well, sweetie Those murders are related Sorry, I'm angled your face. Sydney.  No, no, no, this is huge.  I know That's why we need proof. I'm right about this. I could save a man's life. Do you know what that could do for my book sales? Mm-hmm waiting to meet me right here after classic. Hey, son. Hey, I haven't seen Billy around He really pissed. Oh, you mean after you branded him the candy man. No, his heart's broken. Let's do Can you look at this place? It's like Christmas Stupidity leak Think it's me. No, I don't it's just somebody was there. Someone someone tried to kill me. I know I know No, the cops said I scared him away. I know he called me again last night at Tatum's house You see it wouldn't have been me. I was in jail. You didn't wash your hands. I'm sorry. Please understand Understand what?  You know, that's not true Then what is it? Billy?  I can't believe you're bringing this up No, it's been a year tomorrow one year tomorrow I think it's time you got over that. I mean when my mom left my dad, I accepted it's the way it is It's not coming back your parents split up not the same thing your mom left town She's not lying in a coffin somewhere. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. It's a bad analogy. He's got mom issues.  Let me show you something you're both expelled yet. Come on, mr. Embry was just a joke. That's not fair You're absolutely right. It is not fair fairness would be to rip your insides out Hang you from a tree so we can expose you for the heartless Desensitized little shits that you are Are they trying to make us think it's multiple people? I think they're just trying to show that like teenagers are just like scary bro She was never attacked. I think she made it all up. How would she lie about the girl has some serious issues I would just stop going to school if I was right at this point. What if sydney killed kasey and steve? Sydney won with steve.    That was evil. That was so terrible It's sending me swinging too girl He ain't in the stall. Is he that's some dirty stalls?  You know what I'm saying? I'm not investigating nothing Especially during these times. Uh, I'm not getting on the ground. Perfect stabbing position run Nice slide What appears to be a prank several students was seen wearing scary masks school officials have yet to comment This is known to be the same costume worn by the killer 17-year-old kasey becker and her boyfriend steven orth have already lost their lives Hi gail weathers feel corresponded top story. I know who you are miss weathers. How's the eye? Is there a problem on campus? No, everything's under control.  I'm 25 years old You know in a demographic study. I've proved to be most popular amongst males 11 to 24. I guess I just missed you Of course, you don't look a day over 12 I need your attention now kids. Due to the recent events that have occurred effective immediately All classes are suspended until further notice. I don't know what the heck. I would have run down the hallway We've got a serial killer on our hands. Have you located Sidney's father yet? No, no Well, he's not a suspect is he? We haven't ruled him out as a possibility feel. Excuse me I'm sorry. Am I keeping you if I may say so miss weathers you are much prettier in person Though you do watch the show. I'm 25.  I know it. Kizu Kizu is he's out darling. I don't know what you did Sidney But I'll be happy the entire student body. We all said thank you We're from two party tonight my house celebrate this little step. So what do you say?  Come on Sid For me it could be fun Damn they're trying to have a party right now. I know that's a good place to get his life Cool, you guys bring food, all right What's he from the principal? Yeah He plays on something. Yes Come on. Oh, no, I've never even seen normal. He just looks like he'd be on there Shits, are you coming? Oh, is that supposed to be Freddy Krueger? Yeah, was he supposed to like Freddy Krueger? I was thinking that Just a little cameo. I'm excited to watch that. I want you to watch this movie so bad I've never been able to get her to watch it with me, but I love those movies No, he's about to be late Quick one. You better go find out where Fred is and hang out with him Oh my god, that's so scary What's having an affair with your mom? Your dad was always out of town on business. Maybe maybe your mom was just a very unhappy boy If they were having an affair then how come cotton couldn't prove it in court? Well, I can't prove a rumor. That's why it's a rumor Right created by that little tabloid twit Gail Weathers And you believe it.  We've got a long night ahead of us.  Okay. Thanks Oh, no, that's in poor taste. You know, he's awfully obsessed with horror movies. Mm-hmm. Suspect in a senseless bloodbath Would you be standing in the horror section? Well, it was just misunderstanding. He didn't do anything.  He's got killer printed all over his forehead Why the cops let him go smart guy because obviously they don't watch enough movies It's a standard horror movie stuff prom night revisited man.   That's the beauty of it all simplicity No, I don't at all I think it is. You know, I think it's her father. You know, why can't they find their pops, man?  They watch prom night. They'd save time There's a formula to it a very simple formula. Everybody's a suspect It's Billy How do we know you're not the killer? Hi, Billy. Maybe your movie freaked mine lost its reality button. You ever think of that? You're absolutely right. I'm the first to admit it. If this were a scary movie, I'd be the prime suspect What would be your motive? The millennium. Motives are incidental. Millennium, I like that. That's good. It's a millennium Good kid. He had a little grace ball. I think it's both of them like scary movies But that's supposed to be shaggy supposed to be the guy who went shopping right in san francisco who just wanted to go shopping No, he's supposed to be that he's obviously best friends with the killer. They're like homies.  So the killer has got to be shaggy in the boyfriend Maybe if it's like scary, maybe I think so We learned our lesson y'all and we'll watch we'll watch them in the right order Yeah, next time we watch this booth man. We're gonna watch all the movies before trust, but It's about a killer in texas, huh? Hey, so just think if they make a movie about you who's gonna play you. He has a young may grind myself Thanks, do we with my lucky castory spelling? I'm just gonna be a few minutes. Wish I knew those people Really gonna be there tonight? He better not be. I told stew to keep his mouth shut I think we can live without the endorphin rush for one day. I remember to see those like that So you have a few intimacy issues as a result of your mother's untimely death It's no big deal. Sid me a thaw out. Yeah, but he has been so patient with me.  I was keeping an eye on sydney. Do we Vital phone just faxed us those calls are listed to neil prescott Well, there's no way a cellular could have been cloned. I guess what tomorrow is the anniversary of his wife's death Let's find neil first make sure he's our man Is he a cop or not like he is but see in scream the do we was the killer, right? Yeah, I keep calling it scream, but it's scary. Maybe do he was the killer, right? I think so, but I didn't really tell us he just rode off into the night But is he getting any like killer vibes in this one?  I felt like he's obsessed You're catching all the bars. I like that. Yeah, I'm probably wrong Always wrong man. Gail. You better get out of here. I'm gonna celebrate when she gets chopped up Sorry to mean to scare you What brings you to these parts?  See he's like cutting Just keeping an eye on things and let me just get my code She looks like the girl from friends kind of Oh, yeah Oh, I'll get it. I'm gonna get the beer. Would you have any more? You want me to have the beer with you? I'm not gonna believe you this year. You say chick from the top story. Gail, let me hear it I'm kidding. Have a good time Doing what is she doing here? She's with me You're awesome. Oh, thank you very much. I watched your show for the first time. We even found my daughter. I'm afraid not I'd be worried. Oh my god. She's pointing the camera Is this a scene from the garage? Oh, no, it's gonna be her I guess Dang how many did she have to get What is this room?  Okay, let's see.  I want to be in the sequel bro He's already getting hit at this point. Would you hit him already? Yeah Ah, he's kind of dumb.  Did she really try to do that? Oh, no Boy, they don't make them like that no more our garage door would never do that. Yeah She's gonna get cut off Oh my god And he just yeah, so it's definitely it's definitely who's missing from that scene sydney's boyfriend, right? Because he was there, but sydney's boyfriend wasn't oh Oh, there he is all of a sudden. Yeah, I really hate and where was Dewey? He's with the reporter right now. I can talk to sit alone. I'll tell you Why don't you guys go to my parents room?  We do need to talk or hand the leather face doing here Here goes my chance to see I don't know what to take you to walk from the house 30 seconds. It'll be fine. Just record it Has a cheesy tabloid journalist ever won the Pulitzer first time for everything. Did you hear that? What he said he has a 30 second delay. That's probably relevant. Okay, specifically like drop that in there so the one who's been selfish and Self-absorbed with all this post-traumatic stress I can't wallow in in the grief process forever and about who my mom was And I know I know it doesn't make sense It's like jody foster in silence in the lambs when she keeps having flashbacks of her dead father. This is life This isn't a movie. This is it. It's all It's all a movie. It's all one great big movie He uses that phrase a lot about movies. Remember, he's talking about being R rated and stuff at the beginning Yeah, that was weird. It's kind of true though. It's like a movie. You just can't pick your genre I know sometimes I feel like mine's in the worst. Sometimes it's like in Pixar Oh, he's creepy. I know doesn't he just look so creepy here comes Shit over and over when do we see jaymelee brat not until trading places in 83 jaymelee was always the virgin in horror movies That's why she always outsmarted the killer in the big chase. Don't you know the rules? What rules? Jesus christ. She don't know the rules. Yeah, that's the angry guy for instance number one You can never have sex. You can never drink or do drugs Never ever ever under any circumstances say I'll be right back because you won't be back. I'm getting another beer. You want one? Yeah, sure. I'll be right back You see you push the laws and you end up dead. Okay. I'll see you in the kitchen with a knife Oh, here we go. Yeah The sheriff just radioed somebody reported a car in the bushes down the road. I'm gonna go check it out See why is he leaving? Be right back You're not scared, are you? Do you know what that consolation is? No, what is it? I don't know. That's why I was asking you I feel so forced to me right now. Yeah Listen up. They found principal. Henry dead. He's gutted and hung from the goalpost on the football field Let's go over there before they pry him down Hey Hey Because I'm guessing the guy in the garage getting the beers dead. He's not here What do you mean? The guy that was going to get the beer. He's not back. Yeah, but there's two killers in scary movie I don't know man. Remember that was cool. I'm not trying to relate it to scary movie I'm just trying to make it on my own. Well in my mind It's almost like scary movie And almost every way for the most part the only part about this movie that's unique is the cotton part It was just something I got stuck with a long time ago and it's just this town's way of not taking me serious Make sure I'm coming fast. Slow down Damn what? What is it? This is Neil Prescott's car city spotter. Yeah, Jesus. What's he doing here? We gotta get back You okay? Yeah, I'm fine Who'd you call what? Well, I don't know when you're arrested you're like one phone call. So I was just curious. Who'd you call? Calling my dad. No, um Sheriff Burke called your dad. I saw him. But when I called I didn't get an answer You don't still think it was me, do you? No No I was just thinking if it were you it would be a very Clever way to throw me off track You know using your one phone call to call me so that I wouldn't think it was you Really What do I have to do To prove to you that I'm not a killer Oh my god Huh? Oh my god, Sydney. Billy watch out Okay, so we about to find out who the killer is for real. Oh my god, right. That was creepy Ryan said He kind of knows that house though because I wouldn't know about that Why can't she just go slam him in the door? Yeah, I'd have been in attack mode a couple times throughout this movie Yeah, and I probably go to wrist breaking my leg right here. Oh, yeah for sure Punch punch. Uh-oh. You gotta go. He's not there Watch out Watch out Jamie. You know he's around. Nope Oh Oh, there he is.  I know Oh God 30 second delay There it is. I knew it fire single sure break his hand. I'm going.  How'd you figure that out? Why did he why and why did he follow this go all other side?  Me too all kinds the music in it is just Shall I see the blood? I don't know why he couldn't go that far. There it is Yeah, what is what product shoes That was like a blood bath party Sydney So it must not be doing this one because I said it's back to real Bro, that'd be so scary, dude.  He loves scary movies only I told you surprise Sydney, what's the matter? Sydney?    We already played that game. Remember? It's a fun game, Sydney.   We'll never get away with that to cotton weary I wouldn't believe how easy he was to frame watch a few movies take a few notes The only spot Why?  Why? Why? You hear that stew. I think she wants a motive. I don't really believe in motive suit I mean did Norman Bates have a motive? No Did they ever really decide why Hannibal Lecter liked to meet people? Don't think so You see it's a lot scarier when there's no motive, Sid He's right about that. Did your mama favor, Sid?     I told you he was a freak. He had mom issues How you no longer virgin? Now you gotta die. Those are the rules Oh, this is the greatest part. You're gonna love this. We got a surprise for you, Sydney. It's a scream, baby.  Killed her exactly one year ago today Oh What do we have behind door number three, Sydney? Daddy? Whoa. Guess we won't be needing this anymore Are they gonna frame him? Got the Indian figured out yet, Sid. Come on.  Your daddy's the chief suspect.  Except for Billy and me. We were left for dead Then he kills you and shoots himself in the head. Perfect Indian. I thought of that Ready?   What in the world? David said I don't go to deep Ah, what is this? Oh Give me the knife You see, Sid, everybody dies, but us everybody dies But us we're gonna carry on and plan the sequel because let's face it, baby. These days You gotta have a sequel Ah Sid, don't you blame the movies movies don't create psychos movies make psychos or create Oh my god I feel a woozy air You get the gun anxiety bro. Ow Houston, we we have a problem.  Go shoot him. I've got an ending for you The reporter left for dead in the news van comes to stumbles on you two dipshits finds the gun Boils your plan and saves the day I like that ending I would have already done stabbed him works better without the safety on this gale weather signing off Baby, you're gonna love this She's gone. Yeah, is she calling them? That's fire. Are you alone in the house? Oh my god peer pressure. I'm far too sensitive He's tore up their whole couch like that. She ain't still in the house is she do it again and again.  Get the knife too. That's still stabbing. Yeah, I know confirm your kills Sorry, sorry. Oh my god, randy. I thought you were dead. I probably should be I never thought I'd be so happy to be a virgin How are they still alive? That's what I'm saying, bro. I'd have put that right in his throat Again, shoot him again girl. Oh, yeah, she got up.  Nice Careful, this is the moment when the supposedly dead killer comes back to life for one last scare Not in my movie. That's right. She ripped the genre Dad Gail's about to make millions. She's about to be the most famous journalist in the world, man. Oh, wow Look cut on the face. Heck yeah Hi, this is gail weathers with an exclusive eyewitness account of this amazing breaking story Don't ask why I was at a team party bringing to an end the harrowing mystery of the mass killings that has terrified a peaceful community All right guys, that was like very Suspenseful the entire time to me. How'd you feel about it, baby? So this movie gave me anxiety from the moment it started from the moment it ended I thought this movie was honestly incredible. This movie to me phenomenal I thought every camera shot was amazing. I thought every facial expression added so much just intense drama to every scene I thought the music video was pretty good. This movie honestly was fire. This was dope This is one of my favorite movies. I'm so so mad we watched hearing movie first I wish I wouldn't have known that man Yeah, the whole time I sort of knew it was gonna happen, but to be honest that but we didn't we did but didn't Yeah, this so do we didn't end up being a killer that was completely different There was a lot of things about the movie that were different But there was a lot of things that was the same but to me man This movie was just really good. The music in this movie was was top tier This movie don't like when I watch a horror movie I want it to give me suspense from the moment I turn on from the moment I turn it off And I don't want to look away because that one delivered That one delivered guys. That was dope. I see why it's a cult classic If you guys enjoyed this content man, just like subscribe come join the team share the videos That stuff really does help. Thank you patreon for making us watch this Yeah, this was a dope movie and just thank you guys for the support man We're having so much fun making these videos. We're watching some awesome movies This was a phenomenal and anymore like this drop a comment below We'd love to check it out. I feel like this is one of those movies that may be in life I probably would have watched it at some point but the older I get in the faster the world moves It's just harder to find time to watch these movies that I missed But I was just scared and and it really wasn't that kind of scary. Yeah, I didn't have to buy I thought the movie would be a lot cornier than it was because it was older But this movie was just this movie was swinging. It was good. It was good. All right We're not going to talk too much man. I know you guys are busy Like I said, thank you guys so much for supporting the channel. We're having so much fun guys We're a little over 6,000 maybe more about time this video comes out. 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