Boss talk, we gon' do it how you want, boss talk. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique organization. Boy, he's CEO and I'm here with a lovely, amazing official, Mr. Jamaica, what's going on? Not even on my dad, what's going on? Man, hey man, we got a special guest here today, man. It's got a Mido introduction, man.  Yeah, that nigga done got real comfortable over here. The mics and all that, it ain't new to him. You know, he been true to this for a minute now, man. My boy Mr. Hit that is in the building. What's happening, what's happening, what's happening? Man, hey man, say, man, look, man, we go a long ways back, bro. But at the end of the day, man, you know, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for God. I gotta always start the show off like that, man. No doubt, no doubt, no doubt, man. So, you know, I know I'ma let her get at you. You know, she been wanting this interview. This the one she always was pushing for. Yeah, she's like, I gotta get him in here. I guess she gon' take you down that rabbit hole. So, this time it's gon' be like, okay. Yeah, I'ma go on and see where you came from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because, you know, cause we know you, but I don't know, know you. You know what I mean? So, I want all of our audience to learn about you, learn to love you. I wanna know where you're from, how you were raised. I wanna know everything. No doubt, no doubt, no doubt. Well, just tell, you shoot the questions off and I'm gon' respond quickly.  Come on.  You know, I'm a pleasant girl, baby. Matter of fact, we in the environment where I grew up, you know what I'm saying? Like y'all are littered around the corner from my mom out. I used to actually shop at the store, walking to this joint. Cause y'all were like the first people to have a, what was that brand I used to wear all the time? Was it Kooji? Was it Kooji? Was it Kooji? Was it Sawa and Kree? We carried all of that. We had it every time, bro. We carried it hardy, we carried everything. I think it was the Air Hardy and the Kooji. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know of some other brands. Cause I remember it was Kooji, I think it was. Kooji, I was like, I was literally like going mad crazy over the Kooji for sure. Yeah man, I just, I didn't get to see you much back then cause I was working so much. I used to. Yeah, I wasn't here back then.  But you know, you know, just, I always used to hear about you cause of the song. You know what I mean? That song was popping, you was coming over here. You know what I'm saying? Like that song, like y'all, y'all played a lot into the whole entity. I miss to hear that. Yeah. For the simple fact that like it was jumped out by, your boy stayed fresh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, y'all had me in that girl so, you know what I'm saying?  And he always loved to dress. He loved to dress. I always. I was spending my last dollars on some clothes. See back then you didn't have to have, you didn't have to have money like that.  Exactly.  So yeah.  You know what's so crazy? I grew up in a, I grew up during the time when I wanted to wear throwback jerseys like real, real much like bad. But my mom, she was a church going lady. So the only thing she was cool with was button up shirts. So luckily enough, when I started to get like in high school, button up shirts was cool. Like the little dress shirts, Ursa, Jay-Z. They was wearing a big oversized button up shirts. But I used to love clothes. We just couldn't afford them. Right. How many of y'all were there? It was just me. I had a big brother. Had a big brother here? Yeah. No, I still, well I still got a big brother. I got a big brother here. I got a big brother here. Yeah. But like my big brother, he a preacher. So he never cared about clothes. He didn't care about that. And he know how sometimes a lot of kids get to wear their big brother clothes or their big cousin clothes. I didn't have that. My brother didn't know how to dress. So it was like, I gotta go get it on my own. No man, we definitely been watching your movements ever since you was a kid, man. And that's what I mean. Like I said, we was talking on fair. Like you, Taylor, Gabriel and all the guys that grew up in this area. No, I'm most definitely. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm proud to see y'all. Like when I see you at Big T or wherever, I will see you at, I know already where you come from. And I'm like, okay, I see how God moving with him. Didn't have them boys and have a family. Oh yeah. I'm watching all that. The part I was proud of most of all is to see the family and see you active in your children's life. That's the part I was most proud of. Yeah, that's cool. Cause you know, I grew up with a father that was like, he was the father for everybody on the block. Yeah. So a lot of people didn't have a dad. So my dad, it was like, he the one that bought the basketball goal for the block, rolled the basketball out of everybody out front of my yard. You know what I'm saying? There ain't no cussing and nothing of that going on. So it was just. So you had a very good example. Yeah.  My mom and my dad was married before they even had kids. Yeah. They still married right now. They going on like 40, matter of fact, it's gonna be 40 years, 41 years this year.  And to tell you, it's a lot of people sitting in that seat that answer this question that she asked all the time. And it came, she can't, they don't have that, bro. They said that's an anomaly. That's like, it doesn't happen in a black household. Is it? It just happened like that. She grew up like that though. I didn't, but you know, at the end of the day, I learned to love, you know, just the unity that I've seen with her mother and her father as we were together. And it does, it gives you something to stand for. It gives you something to say, hey man, we shooting for a goal. I gotta be there for my wife and kids. Yeah, it's rare, it's rare.  So it's like, it's unfair for me, territory to be like that.  So like when I go to my kids' football game, my mom and dad both there. So they be like, y'all mom, they cool? Like. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy, but it's normal to me. So it's just it.  Yeah, you didn't stop, you didn't stop, you didn't get. Well, he transformed. You know what's so crazy? I did stop, I stopped for a second because like the group broke up. It was like, you know what I'm saying? Pride and, you know, like, like jealousy and stuff like that. So it made me stop. And then I went, I went off and how long? I stopped for like about a year, like a year or two. It didn't seem like it was. Yeah, because like all the while while I was doing the hit there, I was still in school. So I was still going to college. I was still working. So like money was like always consistent for me. So I don't believe in one hustle. Did you get depressed? Were you depressed when it stopped? No, I was kind of, I was really kind of relieved because I was just spending, I was looking at it like as much money as I was making. The money was like coming in the front door, believing out the garage because I had to spend for the image. So I was spending so much money, I wasn't saving. So when I did like slow down, got me a regular job, I started to actually save money. I started to see money. I wound up slowing down, had my first son and then he got complacent. Like it was like, man, this is, this is cool, but it's boring. Yeah. So I just jumped back in the water, just on some like one of old DJ grab me and was like, man, come back, man, just come back and just try this, do this, do this. And I did it and it wound up taking off. And then they let me like host an event, a concert.  So they let me like MC or event and everybody was like, bro, you good. And I was like, man, would you, would you start going to come back and work? And so it took off from that. But before that, when you were younger, yeah, I want to go back a little bit. What did you want to be? I always want to be on radio. I went to Lincoln. I went to radio television, Magnus. Really? I always wanted to do radio. So you always wanted to do that. Like I was, I was a big influence to, to Martin, you know what I'm saying? WZ, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Watching, uh, what was my guy that he interviewed? It was just one of the best interviews Martin ever did was, uh. Man, stop playing. Uh, uh, uh, uh- I'm like, boy, here I am. You're exactly who you're talking about.  Cause at a lot of times I feel like a lot of niggas be playing that role like that. So that's so true for the be in that time period. I was like, you, do you remember that? I don't remember that episode, man. That is crazy. That's one of the classic episode I was like, Man, that's crazy. And I could always like play that back. Like, dang, like, that was one of those. Like, man, that's what I wanna do. I wanna be able to interview people. And so watching morning, I was like, man, I wound up going to, I went the same. I mean, I went to Spruce for like a day and a half. My mama took me out to school. She was like, no, you can't go here. Cause I was from the Grove. I had too many friends. She was like, you going, and she was like, you're going to, you're going to Lincoln. And like a Lincoln wouldn't accept me. So I had to apply for the Magnet. Got in it at the Magnet at Lincoln. I heard Magnet schools are really good though. Yeah, it was cool because it's really cool if you know what you want. Like some kids don't know what they wanna do, but some kids do. So if you do know what you wanna do and you put them in that lane at an earlier age, it's giving them a push store and a head store. But what's the difference? Okay, you went to school for radio. Radio and television. And television. But some people don't even go to school for that and just try to jump into the industry. What's the benefit of actually going to school for that? Just so you know some vocabulary words, some sort of stuff. That's basically it. That's basically it. Because now you got YouTube, university, you can learn anything. So in like, even when I graduated and went to college and I did the little radio at my college. So I ran it for a little while. That was cool. But if you don't, it's all about who you know when you know right time and right preparation. To get on at the radio station, you got a better chance of making it to the NBA, NFL, the hockey and baseball league. I'll combine. Because you gotta think about it. When we grew up, who did we listen to on K-104? It was Nannette Lee, Skip Murphy. It was them for like, what, 20, 25 years. Yeah, you talking about the, because I'm old. So you go back to Dr. Rock and all this. I'm gonna say exactly how I go all the way back. Think about how long you heard Dr. Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it is. Long time. I had to go to work. Yeah, you wasn't even, you was just three, two, one, Miggle. And I remember coming just, I've been out here a long time. It's gonna be the same voice because it's just a familiarity to everything, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, all that cessation changes up and because I've seen people who leave or- If they leave, they leave them for the promotion. That's right. They're going to a higher plateau.  Right. You better off going to go work out some jumpers every day and try to go make it to the NBA, D-League or something. We gonna come back to that. I wanna go back to just when you first, the mister hit that movement. Started the curve? Yeah, I just want to talk about that because the boogie movement and all that came from that whole, you know, that whole or- The golden era, that was- That was so fun. And a lot of people still like Gator Man was on here the other day and he was like, man, they need to embrace that because that's the foundation, you know what I mean? We dropped the ball.  But I just want to know how y'all came up with that whole concept. You might have told it before, but just to see, because you got younger folks that don't understand. That's down on them. That's right. So let's talk about that. It's crazy. Like before you even talk about it, like I see TikTok videos or I see like Instagram viral videos with me dancing and people be like, bro, that's you? And I'll be like, yeah, that's crazy. Like even my kids now, they see it. They be like, that ain't you? Like, cause they old enough to know like they see the video, some of the video and I laugh. I'll be like, that's me. Yeah. Do you dance around them? No. I seen you hit it, why not have you lied, nigga? What? On my Instagram, nigga. I seen you, nigga. One night I woke up and I said, he just still got it, man. He still got it. I just be enjoying myself, man. I really, I really stopped, I stopped with the dancing to a certain extent because I transitioned in the fact that I wanted people to understand the power of my voice. Yeah. Because your voice can't be as big if, oh man, excuse me. That's how y'all know, I'm leaving baseball practice with these kids. So it was just like understanding the fact that it's like, amen, dancing was a great run and it can't be duplicated. It just gotta be transformed to the next generation. A lot of people want to relive that boogie era. We can't. We just gotta embrace it and appreciate the time that we did have while we did it. And it's cool that the young generation are starting their own wave but let them form their own wave and we need to embrace that wave because we know what we lost because we didn't embrace our wave. We were so busy trying to down our wave that the outside world loved us but our own people hated us. I kinda agree with you, but I kinda don't. I mean, Bobo Luciano was just talking and it's something like, he like, I was at the store and he was like, Traboy came in and he didn't even know who I was. You know, he was like, I'm Bobo Luciano, man. I just want to tell you, I like what you're doing. He's like, I don't know you. You know, and it was kind of like, he needed to do his research. I'm like, no, we need to be there for our people. So that's why I said, I kinda agree, but I don't because what you did means so much still to this day to where we need to educate them so they understand that they got a foundation. That's all I'm saying.  And why should I? Yeah, you're right. Because it's like, one is like, how can we, how can we so as the youngsters coming up, like how can we so love and when you was on and you didn't help us, that's how we look at, I know, man, but it sucks. But at the same time, it's like, I think Dallas is one of the only one, we probably can be other cities, cause I don't know about other cities, but I think Dallas, we do not, we don't show little to all of you. I just can't, but I'm still, I still don't agree because you got niggas like Mr. Hit That that can't really put that umbrella on cause he's still relevant to these kids, man. So it's a whole different ballgame. Cause you still, yeah, but he readjusted. So I can't let you get under that umbrella with a lot of the old niggas that say that.  That's a totally different ballgame for me. Now I'm just telling you how I feel about it. But hold on. You are definitely right about that, though. But although he kept his self relevance, some people don't know him as that older person. They know him as this radio personality. They don't even know him as a radio personality. They don't even know, they don't hide it. You know what's so crazy? They don't know that I'm Mr. Hit That, the song. They don't know that. I get that, but then you still got the power and the ability to educate them because of the role that you put. Yeah. And see, once I do tell them, they be like, what? Yeah. It flips them out. But it's like, they know, they know, cause you gotta think about it. I was under three umbrellas. I was under the 05, 06, 07, which is the, the little wheel umbrella, the watch me do these. And watch me do that. I come under that era as a, as a teenager in high school, graduated till we made our own era, which was the boogie era, then passed on to the next era where we had the yellow beads and trap boys, mode threes and so on and so on. So I done been under three umbrellas of being relevant. So it's dope to keep this wave going on and watching the new generation come along, the new rappers come along and make that buzz and keep the city afloat. So it's dope. I really like, like the reason, and don't think it's strange cause I think I remember having this same conversation with Renetta Spencer. It's certain people that can bridge the gap and you one of them, just like I told her, you know, you know, Renetta, right? So you guys are in an era to where she was with, with big Mo Nem and all of them. And, and now she dealing with DJ Cho's Nem. She, and she's in that era, she's in that lane to where she can do that.  So y'all can speak to each one of them and other people can't do that. You see what I'm saying? I'm just telling you how I'm looking at it because it's special, you know what I mean? Cause some of these younger people are gonna look at, if like an older person comes to them and they're like, well, that's your era. Y'all don't know nothing about this new movement. So they don't listen. And that's, and that's crazy because the fact that we don't have OGs consistently guiding the youth in a manner where it's not disrespectful. Because it's conversation. And the way you communicate with an individual that's gonna get the whatever point across. And a lot of old heads can't come at a youngster because they're on top of the world right now. First off, they're young. Then second of all, they got the fame. They just don't got the money yet. So without the money, they feel like, shoot, you just trying to get my fame. I don't even want you. That's a lot of people that think like that. But the kid cheers. They don't understand that it's like, hey man, you can get an old crowd in your young crowd and really connect in a bigger platform. But without the lack of proper communication with Dallas is not executing that. Like I said, I guess, cause I, and I agree 100% but I also know on this other side, like I look at the different things, man. When you blessed and you know the power of God, you don't even like, like I never thought that I'd be talking to a hot boy, Wes or whoever.  The Seacoke, the smoothies, all of these different people that have come through that you meet. Like and the same thing with you, you dealing with these people. And at the end of the day, you are different than most. You can't get on the umbrella. You are an OG to a lot of people. And so therefore looking at what the other old Jesus doing, you can't get caught up in it because you something different, bro. That's all I'm saying, bro. So I can't play that because I could say the same thing and just bring old niggas on here. You understand what I'm saying? But I don't, I got, can it be them just left the other night? I'm dancing with C4S and this on. So you can't, don't play games, nigga. I already know that God got me in a situation where I'm dealing with these people and I'm able to talk with them and we able to come burst and you even more so better than me because of the way that you was knitted in to the whole situation. No doubt, no doubt. Yeah, I'm on you in here. So now it's definitely right about that, man. Hey man, you ain't saying nothing wrong now. And I love the energy you put out for all these artists, man. I see you when you dance and then you play their song. I see, nigga, I'm watching everything. You know what's so crazy? Like growing up, like actually growing up, riding in the car with my pops, listening to music, listening to like him through the spice one era and then like actually listening to like, you know, like the feel of fresh boys, you know, that's some real Dallas 80 vibes. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I go back from that era to now where we actually get an opportunity where it's me who get to put on for the culture, like who then puts me so much to the city in a lot of people, it's a household name. And to be able to give people opportunities and change people's lives, even if it's just, hey, mama, I'm on the radio. Just giving that opportunity because you gotta think about it. It wasn't a lot of people that's from the city like there's actually not flown in but really grown from the roots of Dallas, Texas that's getting the opportunity to be on the radio and play local music. Yeah, no, you different. And like I said, a lot of the guys I see here, you know, a prophet is without honor in his own country. So I see all of the people coming in, you know, Vita been on here, J-Cruz been on here. All of the people, only one that really was Tasia Alexa, she from here. But it's certain ones that are from here, but you see the ones that are really elevating and thriving here, you know, that are not from here.  And believe me, I'm watching it. I see everything. Like I said, I go back to Dr. Rod, bro. I went to the playhouse club, RJ by the lake. I'm a real nigga that I've been in the streets. Like before. This is a real OG environment. Oh my God, baby, it's all that. So the owner knew the owners, you know, and stuff like that. So it hustled in them whole. So I'm a different type dude. And I know, and so when nigga see me sitting here and mess their head, I'm like, who is that nigga? Man, how that nigga gonna just set it? Nigga, I set it proudly. It's hard to deal with me. Cause you don't know what you're dealing with.  How you know him? Yeah, nigga, you know everybody. That'd be the coldest cheat code for individuals when you tapped in in so many different environments that it's like, hey man, once a person check his resume, I'm like, dang, how did they know? You know, damn, damn. So I probably can't whip the wool over him. Cause see, he know too many people. Like he already know the game. And that'd be the gift and the curse. Some people, some people don't want to deal with you now. Cause like, damn, I can't even work my jelly on him no more. God damn, they didn't know how to spray strawberry jelly all over his bread. You know what I'm saying? He already know. You know what I'm saying? He don't need no more jam on it. So, you know, that's what come with the game too though, now. But how can we bring Dallas together? Cause I know that, okay. They call you the mayor of Dallas. Yeah, for sure. Since you're the mayor, you're supposed to bring it together. How can we do that? You know what's so crazy? I have this talk all the time, like just barbershop talks or people just shopping in the mall or whatever. And it sucks because, man, I was like, I was like, I was like one of the few guys that could actually commingle on both sides of a lot of different scenarios, not just the scenario everybody know. It's just like in a lot of different cases. Like as far as I could be with the street guys, I can be with the swipers and the finesses, the robbers and the nine to fives. And I can be with everybody. And I don't gotta turn into a chameleon. I could just be me.  So when I say that, my only solution is somebody from Dallas that's actually from the D has to get financially wealthy in a position to control a market. Yeah. Until that happens, the Dallas can be controlled because we run under the Wild Wild West Laws. Whoever's hot and rolling, they're rolling with their camp.   I seen it with the Dallas Boogie scene. We was all partners. Everybody was poppin' us. Paper chasers, T-Wheel and Nature Walk, Trelly Prince Rick with the hit that, head beat them with the whole CSB movement. Everybody was poppin' us. Everybody was havin' fun. Today starts saying, hey man, we couldn't chicks. Now it's a competition. We ain't one big group when we kicked it for two years. No problems. Matter of fact, we fought together. Like everybody was beautiful. We got pictures of everybody. Vibed out strong. B-Hemp. B-Hemp, GS Boyz.  Come on, we talkin' Party Boyz. Party Boyz, yeah. And you gotta think about Party Boyz was like the Cedar Hill Lancaster side. You got Paper Chasers, Oak Cliff. You got CSB Grove side. You got Trelly and Rick, the other side of Grove, East Dallas. You had all B-Hemp over there and the Allerton side. Everybody was cool. Everybody kicked it head of blasts until they cut that first chick. Oh man. Money is the root of all evil. Come on man. The love of money is the root of all evil. Come on man, they started cutting chicks. So now it's like, hey bro, hey man, we gotta kind of like get away from them cause we don't want them to take our way, man. Hey man. But we have nobody who had a bank role. Big dog. Who could control us like, hey, everybody's gonna get a chance to eat. Everybody's gonna eat. Everybody's gonna eat. Y'all just all keep ridin' off each other waves.  So now when they see them, y'all get high. Organization. Y'all get, it wasn't no structure because who would have thought that we was actually gonna be getting this type of money actually blowing up because we never seen it from Dallas. They see that's how people always talk about Atlanta. That's why they always compare in Atlanta. Like, how can Atlanta do that? Why can't we do this? But they got the big dog. I'm gonna give you an example. Atlanta really don't do it. The catch is they make it so star studded in their own entity that the people looking in think it's bigger than what it really is. They beefed out too. It's just the difference between them. They keep their business intact like this. The only business that we didn't just heard about is real crazy. It's the young thug situation, wife and Luchi. All the other stuff is in-house. In-house. You know what I'm sayin'? With all stuff, it was in-house, but it just erupted to the internet, and the internet started giving up all the game and exposing it. If people didn't know that that was going on, Dallas was on top of the world. Okay, okay. And I definitely know you was in the midst of it. You lived it. When it come down to the music, let's move up a little bit. I wanna talk about- I have one question about the group before you move on. If you had to, because I know a lot of people still creating groups and trying to do their own thing and whatever. Know that. If you had to look back on the group and the things you know now, is there a way you could have- Oh yeah. What do you think? Oh, definitely. Advise some of these people that are doing that not to make the same mistakes that you did and how can be a successful group? When you're dealing with a group, you gotta put personal feelings behind.  However, you can't put your feelings over the business. And I wish I could have, I wish I would have had enough since, cause I had too much pride too.   So instead of me just saying, you know what? Hey, y'all tried it. Hey, let's get through it. Hey, I ain't no stage without them. And y'all don't got no stage without me. So we all need each other. We all want entity because the world grew to love the group more so than just me or just them. So I wish I would have had enough sense cause we had a talk.  Is we gonna make it work or we not? And we was like, all right, big boom, we gonna make it work after we already fell out before. And then after we fell out again, you know what I'm saying? Somebody got in their feelings again. And I was like, man, I can't keep playing with y'all like this. I go, I can go do my own thing.  And I was just used to making money. I was, my whole life was, I was a worker. Like my parents didn't teach me how to be a boss. They taught me how to be a worker.  So now I learned from that word. Now I teach my kids, hey man, y'all gotta learn how to be your own entity. Think about it. They make so much sense. That's why they stood here. When you was coming here, when you were little, my kids were small. They grew up in this store. They 15 and 16 and 14. They started being here 15 years going on 16. Well, going on 15. I let no bosses. That's all they know. And that was the reason I did it was so they could grow up here. They grew up here. That's their little oars over there or something. But they know the hustle. They ain't playing no game with that. And they know the other way is well because we do everything. But the thing is, man, you said a mouthful when you said that, to show them how to be entrepreneurs and how to move in this society is important, right? Like I said, can we- Go ahead. Okay. I wanna go up to the fact of the mode three thing because I know mode three was your guy. I know trap is your guy. I know to yellow, your guy. All of them, y'all around the same age too to be honest with you. Just give me the spiel on just mode three, how you and him met, how you and him, cause y'all had to grow up around the same era, some of the same things were going on. Let me know how it was when you first heard some of his music. Man, I still remember it like it's yesterday cause it's crazy. It always play back in my mind on just like random. Like if you just heard a song, I'd be like, dang. It's just like you can hear a song be rapping and I'd be like, dang, broke on. And it's like, you can't come back. It's crazy, but I remember Ryan blowing my phone up. Like, hey bro, like, hey bro, I got an artist. I got an artist. And I was like, well, at that time, you know, me and Ryan is like, we close. You and Ryan? Me and Ryan, that's my guy.  So how long you've known Ryan before you knew mode three? I've been knowing Ryan since like, you know. Ryan is funny as hell, dude. Has he always been like that? I'm finna tell you this dude. Bro, y'all wild. Is that your homeboy? I'm talking about, I'm a little wreck. I'm finna tell y'all, I'm Ryan, I've been knowing Ryan since he was a rapper. Damn, Ryan was a rapper. That's a long time, we know. Ryan was a rapper. He told us everything. He told us his story. You know what I'm saying? And he was decent, but he just didn't like his voice. And he thought he was like PMC. Like, Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. No, listen man, Ryan is something else.  But I'm finna tell y'all the craziest thing with Ryan. And Ryan had at least 30% to probably even more. I'm just being modest, super modest with the growth of the whole Dallas Boogie era. I don't think it would have been as big of a Boogie era without Ryan Water. Why? Ryan Water was the only individual that would get on the road and go to all the colleges and get us booked. You cannot go and ask any local artist that had a Boogie song. And I can name them. The Paper Chasers, what was his name? T-Wheels and his brother. B-Hamp, The Party Boys. Even the, it was anybody that was local. Only reason I wouldn't put the GS Boys in there because they already had a deal. Those two already had a deal. But anybody else, you wasn't getting booked unless Ryan was calling you. Because Ryan was the one out there hustling, trying to make his 10% or 5%. But back then, we didn't know that people that book shows get that type of money. We thought we were supposed to get all the money. That's the only reason the world started calling Ryan Janky. Really? Because Ryan was putting a booking fee on it. Because Ryan went to Houston and learned that that's what T-Fans did. You're supposed to do it. That's business. But in Dallas. But artists didn't know that. We didn't know that. So now, when they finding out, they ain't Ryan charged them 2,000, but he only gave us 800. Because hey, hey, how much you want for a show? Two inches, give me 1,000. I got 800 for you. All right, let's do it. And then Ryan go get 2,000. You want to make 2,000 without Ryan. That's right. Driving this little raggedy Honda, a O2 green Honda, around the world, man. I used to ride in that car. One more here about this rain water, something else. You know what's so crazy? I sit back and laugh because I really was a witness of it. I seen it firsthand. He a born hustler. He was the only one that literally got on the road to go to the colleges and get the DJs to play the music. But the first club, like city and college that we took over was Navarro. And it was a DJ, DJ Lil X. And at that time, it was definition DJs. DJ Lil X was the only one that was like, doing the high school parties. And he started doing college parties because we got older. So when Lil started doing the clubs, we had Young Black that was like making all the noise, just before paper chasers. And Young Black even made Frankie. Young Black had the buzz and he had the Richmond records behind them. But Lex was their DJ. Rain or Go service, all the new music, get it hot. Because all you had to do was just go to Cirque, whatever song was be, get that song, go take it to the DJs, get the song hot. And then at that time, there wasn't no social media. It was just picking up the phone and calling someone. No. No going. You had to go. Just like said, delivering the CDs, everything was mobile. You had to be there. So at that time, all the people from the country towns, Tyler Waco, Mount Pleasant, Mount Vernon, Oklahoma, Louisiana, you had to drive all the way to Dallas, Texas to come to Cirque, 2,500 people, or Sunday at level five, or Saturday at club shake. You had to come and see it. And you would go take it back because it wasn't no social media platforms for you to hear.  Hey, this is the biggest song out of Dallas. This is the biggest song out of Dallas. Then you got to do it. There's literally coming down her service. I'm saying, I can get these artists. I can do it. That nigga there doing this, did his thing. And that's what make Rain different.  He made me laugh.    So like, all right, the first bit, this is no cap. The first big show, one of Rain's biggest shows ever the first big show. Some people in Hawaii called me and they was like, hey, we want to bring all the Dallas people. So I didn't want to do all the conversation because I had a job. I didn't have time to be all on phone. I know Rain, I'll do it. And I'm like, Rain, you can't talk to them folks like that, man. This how y'all talk to you. So I leader at the coach Rain, how to talk to these folks. And then we booked, we booked the party boys. We booked the GS boys. We booked Behem. We booked Young Black, me, DJ Mr. Rogers to do the whole thing. And we took over the whole Hawaii trip. Damn. And I had Rainwater set it all up. That's dope, man. Like I said, you telling me things that I didn't even know. That's crazy. The one thing I can say, man, it's just, it's crazy the fact that the way things come full circle, and that's the one thing about work ethic. The dude, he consistently in, he in something at all times, man.  I know you don't, but you can't agree with everything. But, but, but. That's, that's the bigger, the marketing genius. Now he, you know what I'm saying?  I'll be like, bro, you is tripping, bro.   I won't even say it on the mic. That's crazy, man. I'll be like, bro, but at the end of the day, I don't, I just don't agree with some of the stuff he do. Because like, like rain is like a real partner to me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like. I want to get on the mode three thing though. Cause rain, I didn't know that he was, had that much influence. Cause all you've seen was mode three in the kitchen. I didn't even get to answer the question. I'm from my bed. So rain called me and say, Hey man, I got an artist.  I got a, bro, I got an artist.  I'm going to pay you to come to the studio. And that's when I learned damn like food, like niggas are literally paid for my ear just to see what it is. So I'll get in there.  He ain't even fat. He skinny. I'm talking about nigga, muscle started loosing them motherfuckers.  So I'm like, I'm like, rain, you got me here looking for this nigga?   Aye, bro. He hard. So boom, it's probably about eight o'clock. It's just now it's probably like seven o'clock. It's just getting dark. We didn't leave that motherfucking studio about like probably about five, six in the morning.  And I was like, yup. He the next one. And I, and we did shots, it was reloaded. Damn. We did shots, it was reloaded. I hosted the mixtape that was the first and I was in there with him like, all right, three.      And that rain was like, whoo, like, ooh, I know how to do it now.  Just keep making him mad or just make him mad. And he just, man. So since man three was, man, he was a legend, bro.  Before they even was having any issues and all that. I was with yelling them because of the designer. Young nigga, trapping designer. I'm a nigga that sell clothes. It makes sense when you think about it. And then I'm a hustler. So I'm like, this nigga here marketable. The first time I hear about mode three, the nigga, he jumping on a mixtape guy or something, something crazy. I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he over here.  D-Real.  That nigga is not the one I need to be dealing with. I'm trying to get this. I'm looking at the city going.  You know what I'm saying?  That's what I was looking at. From a financial standpoint and a hustler, I'm looking at this can go. My brother called me about this dude, man. He kept calling me about mode three. I'm like, man, why you keep calling about this nigga? He like, man, you heard that church song? Yeah, I'm like, I don't know nobody. That nigga kept calling. Then I started listening.  That nigga got something. You know what's so crazy? And this is what I tell people all the time, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like three was he, he was just, he is just in a whole class of his own. But I didn't heard like all the trackboy in the music. You know what I'm saying? I didn't heard all the other music. They got the same capabilities to be as powerful. It's just, I don't know if they, they scared to put that type of music out or, but they got the same, they got it in them too.  You know what I'm saying? A lot of people say they don't like the way track rap.  Let me tell you something. I go on the record to say this, the hardest nigga on that, that's on me remix with trap boy, Freddie. Say man, he had a cold. You heard what I just said. I think it's the right song, the right beat, and you in trouble. It's just, only thing is, I feel like trap don't have the complete team around him to bring it out because all right, when they did the- You don't trust nobody.  Nah, you care. That's the thing.  So I know he care. I know he care. Just to find the right team that he trust. That's the problem. It's just man, it's about the system now and in the city is lacking the system to keep, to elevate our city in a bigger light. Like I write for instance, Erica Banks goes to a Houston program and turns into one of the biggest TikTok songs and boy for boy female rapping lyrically, she's one of the best. Bro, I picked her. I texted her. I got the text, nigga. Before she- I'm talking before all of the, because I seen it. I'm finna tell you what's so crazy. And I tripped out all for it. I'm gonna call, call my phone, amen. I'm thinking about signing her, bro. But if you say, I shouldn't, I won't. I said, man, she the best female artist out of Dallas. Signed, she gone. Before that, even before she went to- No, to a half point, my son showed her to me and I was like, man, that girl can rap, nigga. I knew it, bruh. When she was stripping and rapping, I was like, bro, you cold. Because you gotta think about it. It was like, it's like three or four strippers that turned rappers that got Sensei Mali. Yeah. When she was dancing, she was like, I'm a rap. Like, I was literally, we went out of town, we went out of town to go make some money. And I'm listening to the music and I'm like, man, you tripping, you need to focus on this. Yeah. Like, you got it. Shout out to Sensei Mali, man. What did somebody say? The book was here last night. I was about to say, what did somebody say about rapping and stripping that it's just not a good look? It's not a good look that you can't rap. I can't say who said that. That's why I said somebody said that. Yeah, but at the end of the day, I think the hustle is real. I respect the hustle.  So you agree that it's not a good look? I ain't saying it's not a good look. I ain't nothing not a good look, because if it work, it work. I can't dictate what works for you. You know what I'm saying? I think the hustle is real. Yeah, for sure. I tell my kids all the time, I'll be like, man, you can't go look at your partner and what your partner got going on and expect it to work for you. Because see, his parents might not fuss with him for acting up or doing something. So he ain't got to deal with these consequences. But you'll do. So you gotta always, you gotta put that in everyday lifestyle.  You might gotta script.  That's what I was talking about. And then that's cool. That's exactly what I said. I said that the fact that you gotta, cause rapping takes money. You gotta finance it somewhere or the other. Rap take real. I just told you to keep up that, that whole hit that image. I was literally bawling broke all the time. Oh, you was coming here and spending that money. Man, come on. I was bawling broke. Cause I used to hear it from her. She say, he came up that a day. He got it. Man, it was cool. Man, it was cool. That was the best thing. It was cool. It crown holder, Mazzana. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I see the picture and my momma used to, my momma used to turn a mud hole through me like, boy, you just keep buying clothes. And then you gotta buy shoes. And I was going over to the DK with Miss Lisa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, back then. Yeah, she had the red hair. I was under the old law. You know, you couldn't get the new J's unless you bought the outfit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You wasn't no Raffles. It was like, if you ain't buying a whole unit, because we're selling the clothes too now, you can't just get these shoes. So you gotta go get the shorts, the shirt, the jacket, and we're gonna get your shoes right now. You know what I'm saying? I came under that law. So Pearl Jordan's 150, the jacket was like 80, the shorts was like 50, the shorts was 40. That crown holder was hidden, wasn't it? I'm in a crown holder, 350. That crown holder was hidden. I know the niggas who were doing that. Man, we were crown holding concerts.  Come on, man. You know what I'm saying? Come on, it was, I was going broke. I had all of them accounts here at this store. That's crazy. I was going broke.  But you gotta, you gotta like, hey man. It's the image you're upholding the image. You gotta have your image up here. So I cannot wear, I don't even gotta get fly if I don't wanna get fly. And people gonna be like, man, the nigga fly for 12 years strong. He gonna always be fly. Yeah, they get that's the way it is. So to be successful in the music industry, it can't just be all-time. Image has to go with it. Yeah. To an extent. Depending on the crowd that you shooting for. Like I'm like, I used to hate when Mo3 used to work.  It used to grind my girls. I was like, bro, come on, bro. We gotta go to my real quick, man.  They can hurt his flow. I'm like, what? What? I just couldn't, I didn't understand it, but the catch is, it's all about the confidence in the individual. Some people need clothes. I'm like, for a long time, I needed clothes to make me feel like walking in a room. Now it's to the point where I can be chilling. I can wear a white tee. Because I didn't know how to upgrade it. I'm into jewelry. I'm into all these other little things that's like, that come for safe or clothes. But in the meantime, shit, I store them all in clothes. I'm gonna be honest with you. And I know that we're gonna get into that. But you know, I can relate because that's how they store God here. Because it was a time when I was hustling. I wouldn't wear the same thing twice. Come on, man. I came under that, I'm a different type dude. You don't even wear your white tee. I ain't wear nothing. Like I give it to my brother. I give it to my cousin.  You don't, you don't much with white teases, man. Hey, look, I'm a world.    But at that, I had my own apartment, but it was with no washing machine in there. And so I was like, man, I used to drive all the way back home to wash machine free. My mama has. So my mama would be like, I don't know why you wash these clothes. Cause you ain't gonna wear them again. I said, that's something we do. I was like, but I might. I might. And you not. And I'm not. And she was like, cause you keep coming here with bags. But I knew.  I'm talking about, we really, I literally, this is how, this is how bad clothes was for me. In high school, I didn't talk to my mom from September of my senior to like two months in when I was in college because I wound up getting a job. My mom, my only thing my mama did not want me to do growing up was get a job. She wanted me to focus on school. That's it. Nothing else. School.   I made straight A's where I ate in my class. So I was like, I need a job. And I went, since I was in radio television at Lincoln, I wanted to work it for ESPN. So I'm making $150 an hour. Cause I took the baseball job and I played baseball. Nobody liked baseball. And they was like, well, it's an intern. I don't know if it's paid. Why did that job stop? Because it was just, it was just, it was like a freelance.  That's a good job. Like back in the day, you know, the cameras wasn't so good. The mics wasn't so good. They had them big clear shields. That's the only way they picked up sound from the game. So when you heard the clack of the bat or hitting the grass, it was people actually in there really doing work. The camera wasn't doing all the work. So they'll pay us $150 an hour, baseball game, 34 hours. It's 82 baseball games in a year. Man, we're making a killer. Making a killer. Making a real killer, man. I'ma thought I saw dope. Just for three hours. Yeah. I'ma thought I saw dope. Yeah.  And the catch was I was literally spending my whole check. I was giving it to you. Yeah. I ain't need me no more. I need no money to go out. I gotta ask you about, I gotta ask you about, I remember I said I was gonna ask you about Carl Crawford and Megan Estallion, man. It's all over the internet right now. I wanted to talk about it because of the fact, of course we both know Carl. When you first heard of Megan Estallion, you was in the radio then, right? Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, we the first people to interview Megan Estallion in my podcast. Me, R.P., my man, Dippa Ratchey, and Glam. It was me, Glam, and Dipp, and free my boy, Ben Frank. We had a podcast, I think Frank was in it. I remember your podcast. I got mad at you about that podcast. Why? N***a, I was upset with you about that.  I'm like, N***a, are that N***a forgot about us? Hey, but you know, you know you said it. Hey, I definitely knew. But you know what I did? Yeah. I said, that N***a, he can cap over there. That N***a can't, N***a. And you know what, she know me well. She like, they know the OG is here, though. Even Tripp, like, I've been doing this. We see each other at the Magic Show Collective. They all see us. We see princess every single six months. They rocking with us, bruh, because I've been around for all of this, man. I like, and I don't, I think it was because we humble and we stay out the way. We stay out the way. We ducked off. And a lot of people. And I'm gonna say this, I gotta say this, a lot of people like, man, why are you in Moodle Stove here? Why are you in Moodle Stove here? I come from the streets. So I really don't want everybody coming to me. You don't hear me, man. So I move how I want to move. Sometimes it better be out the way than in the way. In the way. So we always move like that. Cause people always said, why are you not in the mall? Why you don't do this? That's not it. And we had the finances. I'm a hustler. So first of all, you can't get to your store at night in no damn mall. So I can't do that, bro. We had customers calling us at 10, 11, 12. I need to open the store. I need the drip. And I give it to them every time. I need the drip. Thank you. Every time.  You can't get to it. Can't get in the mall. So I don't play those games. I'm a hustler, bro. So you weigh me up out of bed. And then what?  Don't waste my time. You can put your price on it. I'm on it. Hey, hey, hey. Hey. So you get it. Come on, man. It's a sleeping nigga fee. Come on, man. I used to what I said. She's like, I'm an old man. That's me. That's the best. You know, I'm on it in the bed. I got a family. Man, I'm on the bed.   I'm like, this nigga called me. Man, I'mma go up here, man. You got to come, man. Nothing open at all. I got to go to the club tonight. I got to come. And there's certain niggas that will call me. So I could never do that hustle like everybody else. And my mind said, I'm like, I can't read that. You know what I'm saying? No doubt. But I just want to go back to the Carl Crawford making the style. Like you say y'all interviewed her first. And when y'all interviewed her, was it what she would call then? You know what I'm saying? Or her period to her mom. You know what I'm saying? Her mom was there. Then, Carl Crawford was there. Okay. And that was just now like starting a partnership. So you know what I'm saying? Like when we interviewed her, we actually booked her at our club. You know what I'm saying? We had rumors at the time. I got the footage and it was crazy. It was like, it was super peck. Like the girls went crazy over her. But it sucks because it was her power as an artist and her network and her growth that made her big. But it was cause finances that helped contribute to it.  It's collective. But like now it's to the point where it's like, she decides to say, well, we need you.  But what I didn't understand. Well in the music, Carl was already, you know, he had the finances. He was financially well off. Yeah, he still is, so. So it's like, but you know, I got a great relationship with Megan and I got a great relationship with Carl. So from my understanding, from me actually, she was the first artist to come to Dallas and tap in with us. It's like, man, y'all need each other. And it sucks, y'all don't got each other because y'all could have did so much more than what's getting put out there. But at the same time, it's still a business. But it goes back to like what you said, even about a group is pride and ego that breaks anything up. Hey man, it's business though. The catch is, hey man, Carl had her riding around and Ben Spurners, two of them, had her ride with 30 girls everywhere she go. You couldn't do that on your own finances. Wow. Like you was doing this everywhere, new outfits, you know, Megan went from slick her ponytail to bundles and you know what I'm saying? You gotta think about it. Like it's just not cheap.  But what I can't understand is, I know with going back and forward, all the court cases and all of that, why she don't just go ahead and give him what he wants so she can move on with her life. Because when you are talented artists, you can create so much more and it's be great. Yeah, but it's like she got the right to feel like she, she feel like she worked for them. It's like if you work for your name and then somebody said they want it because they had it first, you're gonna fight for it. Yeah. And you can't blame her for fighting for it. You can't blame him for fighting for it. It's a far game.  Take it to the courts.  Yeah.  And hopefully they get passed. They can go either way. You don't ever know which way it's gonna go.  And they didn't deal so much. Like, look at what she's been doing in those years because we brought her back in like, what, 2017, 2018? And look at what she didn't deal in the last five years. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?  Because man, you, I'm for anything dealing with Texas. Call from Texas, make it from Texas. I'm for everything that's Texas. That's how we are. You know what I'm saying? You in the midst of it right now. So I want everybody to win. And it sucked.  I mean, Texas great again. You know what I'm saying?  But at the meantime, you know, it's still business now. It's business. Okay.  Now you, you know, when my niggas come to town, shout out to money, man, and all these different people that I'm missing, man. When these guys come to town, they tapping in at VLIVE. How, what is, how did you end up doing that? Man, it was just, it was just luckily enough. Like, like I said, when I jumped back in the game, when I took that little hiatus, when I jumped back in the game, I started working at a DGs at the time. Yeah. Yeah, I was jailing them. Yeah, DC came down to the city. As a matter of fact, it wasn't even DC. It was, it was DJ Eric, them that was doing like the Houston takeover. So it was battling like Dallas girls versus Houston girls, Houston DJ versus Dallas DJ. And then the on and caught wind of it. Like, damn, they got a nigga that sound just as good as what we got going on in Houston. We might need to open up a club in Dallas. Yeah. And she, that's what happened. I'm really my co-host in here tonight. Money Moses. He used to be here. He worked with you down there. He, I used to be on that nigga. I said, did you tell that nigga? I said, come on, boss. I'm going to one. When we first started, I was like, what's up with this nigga? He won't come to Boston. Man, nobody told me, bro. He said he told you multiple times. I said, man. A.E. check this out. Bro, I tripped out of you at first. I promise you, I used to tell people. I say, you know what? That nigga tripping. A.E. It's about five niggas.  We at the magic show in Vegas. I run into your wife. First thing, she was like, come on, boss. I was like, get my number. Let's do it. It was, it was nothing. And I'm her. Yeah, but it was a time when I was trying to figure it out with Money Moses. He said, no, I told him.  Hell no, man. Bro, I say, this nigga must don't know who I am. Man, you done forgot. I say, I know the nigga, know me. How fast, how fast we get this done? You got it done pretty fast. Well, I just, I'm just telling you, I asked, I'm going to be on him. Because then I say, I say, you need to be at the mark because I want to hear who lied. Somebody lied. Man, you know what? I only missed, I only missed yesterday because I supposed to came yesterday in because we had, we had a bunch of me's. I'm glad you didn't come. It was about five. Mario, Mario was trying to see. Yeah, he wanted to see you while your gear. Yeah. Your gear on yesterday, so he wanted to rock with you.  I got the toms mixed up and I was at the main cages, man, just out there with them kiddos. It's like I said, this is a different world for some, I mean, I've been there, you know, I've been dealing with everybody for a long time. I just wasn't doing this. But when I started doing it, I was like, you know, man, we did this to keep relevancy in the middle of a pandemic. No doubt. But it turned into something totally different and way bigger, bro. I'm telling you.  Like, okay, these niggas want this. And what it did open up doors to talk to the young people like I was telling you. No, for some. And the young people need somebody to talk to, bro. It's like they don't have nobody like the niggas in the streets using them just to get clout. You know what I'm saying?  Because, you know what I'm saying? I grew up personally under the law where it was like, hey, man, you can't do this. You can't do that. You can't do this. You can't do that.  You gonna have to go to, like that's the law. I personally come on. So I really wasn't in the streets. I was a sidewalk guy.  This ain't even you. This ain't for you.  And, hey, man, you don't need to do all that. So I'm glad that I came under that atmosphere because you got some people that, hey, man, you got ducks running around here, man.  Yeah. And then if something happened to you, it's like, all right. I gotta ask you this before you get off of here, man. What does baby mean to you? Man, baby, he the goat. He's the goat. I like, it's like, it's no impotence on it. Only reason I say that, because baby put us, he helped us get in position for me to understand a lot of different motions and movements and how to God dang network with different individuals. And then as a guy that was just only dancing the first time baby sent us to Shreveport and me watching him like talk and control the crowd, I was like, all right, that's what I wanna do. I don't wanna rap because everybody wanted me to rap. He thought, man, you might wanna be a rapper. You got to swag, they don't wanna know how to talk. You know what I'm saying? You might as well gonna make you a song. But I seen baby, I was like, nah, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna MC. I wanna control the crowd. I wanna make everybody touch their toes. I wanna make everybody spin around and do the hokey pokey. Look at this man doing, look at the influence he have on the culture I heard. So I was like, man, I want that for Dallas. And we didn't have nobody like that. We had DJs, we had rappers. We didn't have nobody that had a voice of the city that was actually from the city. So like baby, we always have powerhouse and watching him, he's just watching his motions even if he don't talk to me or whatever what he always do. He's just, he's like a mentor. You can watch him and be like, I'll write this how you need to move. Or this how you need to move. Because everybody need a person that they look up to as far as like, hey, that's the big homie. All right, look how he move. He don't do this, he don't do that. But he do do this. All right, he do, he might do that wrong. So let me fix that. So I don't have to go through that. So that's how I look at baby. Like he a big dog, like he. Was he wanted the reason that you ended up on K-104? I don't, I probably so. Because one thing I always, I've grown to learn the things that people say behind closed doors and behind my back puts me in a win-win situation or a lose-lose situation. I could bet my, probably my last dollar in my pocket did. He was probably in my favor on my position. He could have been in one of those rooms. He could have, I will bet it. I don't know, but I could bet that that's just because he's always been genuine to me.  I can't have no will, will and tent, you know what I'm saying? On this man, you know what I'm saying? Because he did too much to put me in position to be who I am. I get it, man.  So I was just trying to, you know what brother's working at a radio station, they should be, you know, in both of y'all door-skinned niggas. So yeah, you know what I'm saying? I always say, man, door-skinned niggas is players. I don't care, I don't wanna know. I mean, even if they're not player, they just play. So you know, all you gotta do is add things. They don't want to get them right. Well, amen. Man, I mean, so, I mean, who do you think is the most underrated in the city when it comes down to the music? Underrated, I have the hands down say T-Y-E, Ty Harris. Man, that boy, he was just on there a while back. I loved it.  Putting, or composing music, can't nobody touch him. It's just, I don't know why people are not being receptive to him.  Like, even though everybody know Lil' Runny, Mother Earth, he still is underrated because people don't respect and value. He's the Dallas Ludacris. Yeah, most definitely. Like, he is one of those, he's one of those warrants. He's one of those warrants for real. He's a special kind of guy. Man, lyrically, content, putting together a song. He got the hit records. Like, what more do y'all ask for him and y'all still don't get that man to create it? And I love the personality. I love the fact he's not into all that beef. But anything like that. Man, let me tell you. It's a lot of underrated cats, man. If I sit back and just think. But you said Ty Harris would be your number one underrated. I think Ty because I just, I love his, him musically. Like, he is, his content, his videos, his subject matter. He dope. Man, let me tell you something, man. And shout out Lil' Runny, like I said, when I opened this platform up from day one, he one of those guys that, I didn't have to say nothing twice. He came and not only did he came, he dropped jewels. He dropped, just pretty much gang. Like, hey, just be very careful about who you bring on the show, all these different things. Cause he knew, he said, he wanted them dudes to say, especially bro, what you doing is going to be great. They could see it. Like, it's niggas that come in here and be like, when you have people flying in from North Carolina, you just open this thing up or, or say a call to somebody that's flying in.  And still on the same day. It's like, you're not expecting this. But then when God started blessing you, you're like, dang man, this here is dope. Like, you get to deal with certain people. But, but he was one of those guys that I could, I could listen to or if I called him and I needed somebody and I couldn't get to him, he was going to call, you know. So I'll give you a favor with certain people, man. And it's just a dope thing. So when you mentioned him that, I thought about that, but Ty, when he came on this show, we know he talented. I love the way that, okay, got another one for you. What's the, what, and you got to give me an answer to nigga, don't try to get out of it. I mean, you know, I'm still for the bootleg, man. I'm gonna give you some. Who, who, what's the, what's the Dallas anthem? The Dallas anthem. My, my, my Dallas anthem or the world's Dallas anthem? I want you, I don't, how have you put it? You, it's you. I got five ways to answer this question. Globally, the Dallas anthem is, you better call Tyrone, Ericka Badu. Okay. Globally. You know what I'm saying?  Globally, South side of the real. Hey, there it is again. South side of the realest.  You know what I'm saying? So we're gonna go call Tyrone, South side of the realest.  Mr. Hit the whole night some more. Nah! Mr. Hit the whole night some more. I don't sound like Mr. Hit the whole night some more. Only reason I say that, I was at a Cowboys game about two, I think before Corona. So that was like 2019. That's when Beyoncé, Jay-Z, like George Bush, everybody was there at this game. I don't know which game it was. Ray Schrummer was there. You know what I'm saying? Shout out Ray Schrummer. And they had one of the biggest songs at the time. They, that girl is a man. Yeah, proud, please. That was the war. Man, we watching the game and I got my boy J-Rail with me. And J-Rail like, hey bro, where's Schrummer over here for? I don't like what the Cowboys on for. I'm a real boys fan. So I'm zoned in. I don't want to talk nobody. And we losing. Yeah, I'm now, nobody. So yeah, I'm really hurt.   DeRose was in there the other day when they lost. That nigga couldn't even do the interview. Man, E, I'm just awful. You guys, now by the way, we ain't even out for real. They didn't go, man.  That was like, like the dude that was dancing, bro.  Like, I was like. Now you see what I mean? Like you can't be playing with this, man.    Man, those niggas pull the motherfuckers in the video up, why are we kicking it back? You know what I'm saying? Side line. And we're like, bro, this you, bro. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. So that type of impact, it was like, bro, that's a big record. But that's for me, though. I'm biased. Yeah, but at the end of the day, that's why I'm hard on you too about the fact of what we was talking about earlier. Like, you can't, though, you are OG in your own way and you gotta be that bridge that we keep talking about. Now, the same thing I told Renetta wasn't it? It's certain things certain niggas can't do. And you're one of them niggas that, you can speak to the whole thing. You know what's so crazy though? You know what's so crazy though?  Yeah, yeah, boy, that was hard, boy. People don't really give that song the deserve and credit it needs, man. Because we dance, bro.  I'm from Dallas, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm... Hey, the only reason, hey, look, you know what's so crazy. I'm just saying. I'm gonna tell you about that.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I went to school in Oak Cliff. I went to Sarazone Walker. I went to Lisbon, you know what I'm saying? So I got to touch all the different blocks growing up. You know what I'm saying? I always was being from the Grove. I went to school in Oak Cliff and then I went to high school in the South Dallas. So I kind of like touched everything. The reason why I did not know that there was those were all beef songs between Nino and DS off. I didn't know that either. Oh man. So now I'm looking back at it. That song? Bro, yeah, I'm from, you know what he said? Yeah, I'm from Dallas. But nah, we don't say that. Yeah, yeah.  I did not know that there was beef. Beef, I didn't either. Those were beef songs. You had to learn, how did you learn that though? Because. You played it. No, me and Ryan was having an argument like, like, hey bro, he was like, bro, all these songs, without the beef, Dallas don't have no anthem. South South of Realist was a respond song. Like it was like every song because they was, at that time they were saying, I don't know how true this is. But they was like, hey man, South Dallas didn't have an anthem. And you know, South Dallas was monumental. You know, Martin Luther King on Sunday, but they never had an anthem. Oh, Cliff had anthems. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like people wasn't speaking on South Dallas like that until they made these anthems. So without beefing, because you know, all the fights and stuff was going on between different hoods, different blocks. Without the beef, Dallas, if you take the beef away, we don't have a hit, we don't have a hit single. Outside, all this, like even, even yellow, yellow songs, people was claiming that was a beef song to a certain extent. But without that controversy behind this music, the music don't get as big as it should. I agree. I told Gator Man the other day, without, wait a minute, without his song, without that, without that, I don't walk, you know, that song right there. Come on, man. That moves the needle for me in Dallas. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. We didn't say, I don't walk the block until my feet hurt the slab, but that one took the good with the band. Without this, I don't think it took a vow to never ever come in land.  You can't be in Dallas, you can't wrap that in. Bruh, listen, I told him dinner, he said I don't even like this song.  I said, whatever.  Same thing, same thing, same thing.  Yeah, he was over here. You know what I'm saying? No shame was supposed to have been the original voice on Mr. Hit That. But it didn't recollect, like, you know what I'm saying? And we wound up, me and Tria, we went to, we went to the elephant, like a little art showcase.  That nigga, that's the voice. He came in and did the song, but I didn't like it because it was so slow. And I wanted like upbeat, like, I wanted, I wanted, at that time, it was that young dro, ain't I, ain't I? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted some bounce.   That was a good one. And it just, it was mint, it hit.  That's your out song. You can't get out of that.  You can't get around it. It's a crazy story. Who came up with the name of the song? My name was already Mr. Hit the Hole. I know. So he was hitting that hole. So it was, it was, it was like, it was already. Who wrote it? Trellin' Rhee. Yeah. Trellin' Rhee. So before we performed that song, we heard that T-Wheels and God, I can't think of my boy, he gonna be so mad at me, bruh. I can't think of the other dude that was with T-Wheels, Juicy Nine. T-Wheels and Juicy Nine. T-Wheels was the God of Deal off of the Nature Walk song. So everybody was supposed to be opened up for Boots and Webbing. C-Dog concert. And they let all the local artists, but all the dancers on perform. And at that time, Trellin' Rhee had the biggest song, which was, uh, See a Bad Little Bro. We opened up with the Mr. Hit that record. I think, I dammed the thing.  I bet. That whole, that whole had that energy. It had it. Remember I told y'all, we was gunning for everybody, because everybody was getting deals. So it was like, did it come to sign you?  But we didn't have the mind to be like, all right, boom, come get him. Boom, then come back, get him. Boom, come back and get him. And then, now Dallas got 12 big artists. Now these 12, 70 niggas might go bankrupt because they don't know no business. Before these niggas might be popping and they might be to the next entity. People scared, people scared that if you say you gon' get me and then come back for you. Then he might not come back. Yeah, yeah.  Yeah, exactly.  We shoulda just paid that man and got him out the way. But we Dallas, we some cheap niggas.  All right, man. He said we cheap.  That cheap motherfucker did not pay him. Damn. He tried to pay him 200 after the song got beat, the niggas won $13,000. So we wind up doing that, didn't come to find out the niggas was signed, Wild Friend was signed to somebody. And at that time, it was all the way turned up or missed a hit that whole, which button we gon' press? All these niggas ain't got their business together.  I already know, man, that song was beat.  Yeah, yeah. We was all down for it. Why you don't have an artist? Or nothing. That's how I was just thinking about that. You know how this game goes. Stop playing, man. Even if you ain't just doing another mentor on it. Do you want to do it? I've been to a lot of different artists. But, or like Ryan and Tay, it's babysitting. I know it is. I got four kids. I forgot about this when they got the drive call quiz. I got the other. I go at about five more. Yeah, all right. See, I got one more in me, momma. I got one more in me. You gotta give me my top three before we get off to it. Artist of All Time. Artist of All Time. Dead or Alive. Number one.  I've been watching Barstalk and that's what's so crazy because nobody asked me to come on. When was the first time you seen Barstalk? Probably like, Nick, we did. Let me use it. No, no, no. It was during Corona. It was during Corona. It was during Corona. And what's so crazy? You look so different now. I didn't even know it was you.  Because I had inboxed you and I sent you a link to one of our shows that we did. And I said, check this out. Tell me what you think of it. But then nobody asked me to come. I did check it out. But you never responded. Because my next thing, when you responded, I'll be like, hey, Wes. Hey, look, check this out. I want people to understand. In life, look at my text messages. Oh, yeah, them hoes going in. Look at my phone calls. Yeah, yeah, them hoes going in. I put my phone on do not disturb. I done missed 22 calls since I've been heard. Yeah. No doubt. People don't be understanding the power of them phones.  No, you didn't call me. I made I think it was which one of them girls was I may call you. I think it was a what's it look? The little dog girl, I take the Vegas with us. You used to take with us.  What is I always take everybody, bro? That's the one thing you get. I imagine they got my first. You're going to be there. I took everybody. We've been going since when you were coming here. You know what? It's up because they didn't have time in there.  The they were sourcing one there. Sourcing was there, but I know sourcing, but they didn't have no China could come. Yeah, yeah, because of because of Trump. Damn. So I didn't get to get the full without China. It's like everybody won 5,000, 20,000 for one item. I can't know. There were some people that I saw there because I wanted some things made. And they were like, well, yeah, just call us. We can make the sample. So I did find some people that. Yeah, but they weren't authentic tournament. Even after they do the sample, you still got to make 1,000 or 500. Yeah, there was like 1,000. But let me shoot. Weebeck, we was going there when you was coming here. I mean, I was going there every six months. And what's so crazy? Y'all used to tell me. I'm pretty sure because I try to help everybody. It's like. I used to tell me because I was like, man, I want to start a clothing line. I'm going to start one. I'm going to start one. It should be goddamn 15 years to start one. Yeah, yeah. It's a COVID for me to start one. And you're good at it because I done had a push a man live. All these people have been on here wearing your head. I already knew this was your stuff. Man, what's your name? What's your name? Hidalgo. OK, Hidalgo. And how long you just put it out two years ago? Yeah, because you know what's so crazy? I'm a big fan of Jay-Z, the airplane hats. You know what I'm saying, the airplane hats.   So I was like, man, I need to make a hat. Like I changed the wrapper. You got that three hat. I was like, I want to wear an H hat for hit that, but I can't call it hit that clothing. So I just went down in the dictionary and started scrolling. And I was like, man, I got to incorporate Dallas. It has to be DAL in it. So I started googling H words. They got DAL in that motherfucker. And I ran across Hidalgo. What is the meaning of Hidalgo? Hidalgo is a noble gentleman from humble beginnings. OK, that's still a quote. In Spanish. But for my turn, it's for humble beginnings, but Hidalgo. Wow, wow, Hidalgo. I like that. Yeah, I like it too. That's dope. I didn't ever even know that. I just knew that was your brand. Yeah, I knew that was my brand. In fact, that's the same hat push man was wearing when he came on here. Man, for sure. I just didn't know the meaning of that. Did you see push man wearing the hat on here? Yeah, he sent me a picture and I posted it. I posted that on him. I didn't even know. Like if anybody wore my gear, I'm posting it. Yeah, yeah. Shit, I appreciate it. Like I said, I see you still helping a lot of these artists when they put stuff out. Some of the ones that have been around a long time.  You still show your love. Now, for sure.  You still do it. I'm still playing our artist. I see you doing it. You know what I'm saying? I still try to show it's much love within the confines of not getting fired. Give me the top three artists of all time, D.A.Live, number one. Top three artists of all time. Any genre. D.A.Live, number one. Jondre, you only get three. Number one. I'm going to go, I'm going to go. Of course, Jay-Z. I'm not even for playing. No, no, no, he tripping. He all Texas now, so let me see what he can do. No, he can do anything. No, he said any genre. That's how I like to put him in. That's right. That's what I'm going to get. Michael Jackson, here we go. I'm going to Michael Jackson. I knew it. Y'all go Michael Jackson, man. Michael Jackson, who's number two? Nigga, man. Nigga, man. Let me see who he going to do number two. And I ain't going to lie, man.  That P.M.C. man. Oh, that's what you just did, man. Boy, you just did it. That nigga P.M.C. How you good? Boy, did you like that? Did you like that? Hey, boy, we knew that this a whole P.M.C. platform, if you. Let me tell you that, man. Nigga, man. Hey, P.M.C. trying my life, man. Man. Hey, look, my junior year, going into my senior year, man, I'm talking about, it was this one girl who I was just so, I'm just head over heels with. And she broke her nigga heart so bad. I'm talking about it was so bad that I made the remember when in my school, like, like I'm talking about she had me thinking I'm going to the homecoming with her. She had a date. She shook you. Had me dressed like her and everything. I'm trying to take pictures with her. She broke up with before homecoming. Now, we was never together, but it was just crazy. Oh, man, what is that? I loved her.  I think it was in love.  What happened, man? I'm talking about it was so crazy. I had my partner to drive me to the homecoming. I ain't have a car. And then after the homecoming, she was like, well, I'm a ride with my homegirl to Denny's. Man, my partner called break down.  My other partner come like, hey, bitch, I'll just take you up there and then cool. I get up there.  She got the nigga jacket on.   Everybody looking at me crazy.  I go up there and just look at her and I speak. And I don't even peep the chat. And then I sit down with my other homegirl. And I'm like, oh, it's cold. I ain't got no ride to leave. So I'm just sitting there. You're walling in it.  What did you do, man? Did she say nothing to you? Man, she had it so smooth. She ran me like a four dollar bill, man. It was like, it was like, two could play that game. She had me on how to be a player, nigga. She worked in the room and still had a nigga feeling good. Boy, what did Pimp do, man?  Say, if you know, like, I know you wouldn't die on the floor. Oh, I killed him.  Hey, listen, man, turn with some Mr. Hit that hole, man. Man, that's a dope, see, that's a dope story. Number three. Oh, so that's how you got that. I never ever thought about the meaning of that name. I never, I never donned a man the meaning of that name. I started hitting Eddie Thangela and I'm active. I look, because I was in high school, I was broke, but I was so smart. I got like a $40,000 scholarship and I went to UT Dallas and Richardson.  They can't pay you, but it's a stifling. So at that time, my stifling, if you make a 4.0, you get 3,500. You know, summer one, summer two. So you get that per grade. So however many classes you take me, so boom, I'm taking, give me three classes, give me 12,000 something more. Summer two, give me another 12, I'm 18. I got about a 40 ball. I don't ball it, I'm spending money. I'm buying clothes with my partners. Everything. What? Wow. And I'm hitting everything. Call me Mr. Hit that over, right? Shout out to J-Rock. J-Rock gave me my name. Did she ever try to, J-Rock did, no, that's a different. J-Rock. Yeah, but did she ever try to haul it back at you after all of that? Yeah, we can't, you know what I'm saying? We cool, we cool. But I had to go back and finish the mission. I did that. Already. I ain't gonna never say who it is, but I, well, I'm talking about, but she is the reason I turned into a, and then after I got out of my system, I got back soft. That's dope. That's dope. Man, it's a hell nah, I shoulda, every time I broke over some, I shoulda just put that P.M. back on. God damn, I shoulda. Number three, man, number three. Number three? Michael Jackson, P.M.C., and number three. All the time, man, I'm going, I'm going on my name, Kirk Franklin, bro. Damn. That's dope. That's the first Kirk Franklin we've got. That's dope, bro, that's dope. Now, Kirk Franklin, bro, that's my first, so that I ever went to in my life, the storm, 1998. That name was hit, dude, back then. At that time, I learned how to perform. I learned how to move around. He is a performer. I used to be a gospel mom. Like, and I was real big, like, like during the summer, you know, they had them little conferences all over the world, like Florida, Miami, whatever, my parents used to take us with the church or whatever.  That's why every time I danced in the club, I don't ever like pop-lock or nothing, because I used to pop-lock in church. So I never did it in the regular, in the streets. Gotcha. But like, Kirk Franklin?  I already know it. I just had a, what's her name? Jada. Jada on here. Which Jada? Jada is an Arnael. She's a R&B singer, amazing voice, man. She can go.  Oh, yeah, Kirk Cole, man. Yeah, and he believed in a brand, too. So it's Kirk Cole, man. I have to let you listen to that, man. You gonna say, damn, I'm gonna let him listen to that. I wish I knew how to sing, but I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about, I will be so bad. I know how to, God knew not to give me no vocals, boy. Man, how can people get a hold to you?  Hey, look, Instagram page, dub, Mr. Hit That, T-H-E-M-R-H-I-T-D-A-T. I'm glad y'all spelled my name right, man. A lot of people spelled my name T-H-A-T. Know what I'm saying? No, I'm saying that means a lot to me, you know what I'm saying? My wife always was fun to view for as you coming here as a kid, bro. No, for sure. She always would tell me this about this boy. I see the little red in the hair off of this little boy, man. The blonde. Yeah, I see that little boy, he be at the store. She said, yeah, he always come by. I'm like, that's dope, man. And then it was unique, that Frankie song, that she was with him. Yeah, so it's like, it's certain people that I remember it's like, dang, man, you know, these dudes were young and they grown and they moving in the city, bro. No, for sure. You one of those guys, man. Thank you, favorite thing you do. We love you, man. Man, man, I love you. Your family here, man.  Man, he redeeming it tonight. I'm redeeming it. I had to see back, I was like, I did say it. You did? I see it, I was looking like, what? Yeah, I know, I know what I'm saying. But she know, she know. Sometimes you got to do what I'm saying, you got to touch them ahead and I'm a heart. So what I do when I ask, we're the clothing brand, where do you see yourself going with this? Yeah.  Man, matter of fact, I'm gonna bring y'all some gear. Only reason I didn't bring y'all some gear because I went and bought a sprint truck where I actually got all my gear in and I do like the Volvo, like people pull up and stuff like that. But I was dope, bro. We went to Chicago and we was gonna buy that one and I turned it down.  And that whole deck thing, I often make that whole boutique inside. It had some transmission problem or something. No, it just has a smaller leak. I had the pressure test put on it and I was like, hey, no, I'm not gonna get eaten for all this money. And they took this Benz house, you know what I'm saying? Because it was used, I'm like, I'm not gonna spend this 50,000, 60,000 cash on some in the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. And that's what's so crazy. All the little profits I made off that, that was the first thing I did always, put the money back into it.  So, but it's dope, man. And I just really got my business stuff going. So this year should be a good year. But I know my only flaw in my clothing brand is, I don't believe in myself. Why? You have an awesome brand. It's just, I don't know, but I'm doing better. You think it's because you just need to get more educated about it. You need to take that trip to Hong Kong. You need to stay over there. You need to go see my production crews and I understand the whole just- Do you know what's so crazy? Me and my new old lady, you know what I'm saying? Because we started linking up in 2019 too. So that's what we was planning. Like we could go over there, we could hang out and then goddamn COVID hit. Well, I think one thing I can tell you, because of me being in this alone, you know my friends, I mean, I can reach out and tell some serious dudes, bro. And I could put together a panel of guys who already done that and who- And they'll tell you who to reach out to and where to go and stuff like that. Man, we just definitely tapped in. I'm linked with the ones. I could promise you that. Man, I need the ones and not the two. Yeah, like they already went and stayed and we talked, we friends. You know, I'd be a relationship. And they ain't in Texas either, but they still, they went and took those trips. When I call them, they answer, that is love. You know what I'm saying? So we need to do a panel. I was gonna do a panel. Remember I was saying I was gonna put them because they're not here, but I was gonna do it like a Zoom and put the ones like you. And I think it was one more guy that I was gonna put in here and we just gonna talk about the cause. Educate people, man, so people can learn. It's dope, but a lot of people don't understand. I spent a lot of money on product that I don't give out. Because I don't feel like it's acceptable to the standard. I want my brand to sit next, like my hats. I want my brand to sit next to a new era. And be a pro standard. Come on.  Come on now. That's a black dude named Mike Harris. See, he bad. I want to be able to, and everybody look at the quality and be like, okay, yeah, this dope. All right, boom, boom, look at it. He got his name in the inside. Yeah, yeah. Okay, like that's the stuff I care about. Like the outside is easy, but when you open your head up and other people who like vendors, like, okay, yeah, this is a real brand. Yeah, yeah. Like we're on the little button at the top. I want my logo printed in that button. Got to be right. Like people don't be understanding that fine tune.  When you up the price. So when people... They know that the detail costs, so they're willing to pay that.  I was like, go online and shop with it. And they were like, feed it all for a hat.   And barter is not cheap. Not at all. Not at all. I'm talking about 3D levels. You already know.  But sometimes it takes you educating people. You know, sometimes, hey, man, this just might not be for you. That's it. And I'm all right with that. Yeah, you got to realize when you were coming here buying clothes, who would thought that we'd be selling at that time $200, $250 per jeans, red monkey jeans, in box springs. Like nobody was like, y'all high. How many people coming here?  So many people told us that, or some people will say, I remember, and this is why folks will come in and will tell us that this story ain't gonna last a month. Ain't nobody gonna buy shirts for this part. Y'all still here and walk out. We like, we laughing cause we know we know that we knew our customer and we wasn't worried about what you say. We knew already how to shop around. And that'd be the thing too though. But one thing I can't say, it take, you got to have a pardoning crime. That's what I love about job, man. Here we go, Taylor, right Taylor? Taylor said the same thing. I have a pardoning crime and I love the fact that I do got a pardoning crime. So now when I'm doing things, I'm more at ease with it. You know what I'm saying?  And you don't really realize how much it is until you actually get it. Yeah, yeah. And you gotta understand it ain't gonna be always peaches and queens. No, it's not. But there's some uphill battles, but you gotta stick in there. But I always say you have to keep God in the middle of it. Man. That's important. And I'm learning that too though. That's important. So it's like transitioning because when you one of those guys like in the city that you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?  You gotta do, the he can shoot at any woman and y'all both except like, hey man, it might be somebody richer, might be somebody finer, whatever, but it's us and y'all both locked in on that. Just that statement alone.   So with you saying that, so, cause I know that there'd be probably females in that inbox and everything else like that. You know what's so crazy? I don't even get that no more. You don't? I'm so locked in on mine, they don't even get it no more. And if I do get it, it's probably somebody that they just out of sight out of mind. It's just like, why? Look at that, I don't know who this is, baby. It to the point that I don't know who that is, baby. All right, cool, we good. Cause I know you ain't no like, and it's like, if I don't answer the phone, it's like, I don't care where I'm at. That's what I learned too. You gotta be, you gotta be, you gotta respect your partner enough where it don't matter what you're doing, how you answering that phone. Even to say I'll call you right back.   Right. And I never thought like that. Like, cause I was, I was just young. Yeah. It take growing up and going through some things, man. We like to say, coming, we got about to hit 20 years here in a little bit. And we not far from it.  At the end of the day, real talk like, but it's God though. You know what I'm saying? People don't be God, it can't happen, man.  Like my mom, they going on 40. I'll be like, I'll be like, that's a long time.  Yeah, yeah. And I know my mama get old. Yeah, yeah, it ain't easy. So I was like, man, but the kid cheers you gotta see it through. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be good day, bad day. You just gotta, you gotta sacrifice for each other. And communication is key too. Man, say, man, you know, it's dope, man. When you can say, hey, man, we got to do something that's meaningful tonight. I think it was a meaningful night for Boss Talk 101. Now for sure. You know, because like I said, this was something that had to happen. You know, there are some that in the city that will be on Boss Talk 101. We never charge nobody. I always say that. Everybody be trying. Man, they in the inbox fool?  I'm gonna ask for an interview. How much for an interview? They never tell you. I'm like, they don't work like that. It comes from here. It comes from here. You hear what I say? I ain't gonna lie, man. Y'all motivated me to like, you know what I'm saying? Like step it up. Like I might need to, I might need to do something, bro. We do that to everybody. And I got some niggas in the city that I know. I make niggas move. I made niggas change their whole format.  Like it's just the energy and the way we bringing it. I love it. I knew it. I knew it was the next level thing. But we believe that everybody can get it. We're not competing about it against nobody. And that's what make it so player is when it's like, man, say this lane is so big. It's so much. Exactly. It's like, man, we doing this for this reason. Y'all might be doing it for that reason, but the catch is y'all reason might not hold up to my reason. I was gonna ask you about something. Y'all just made me think of it before you get off of here. The bloggers, man, that are in the city, they everywhere. Bloggers, everybody. My boy shout out to Crisco. I seen you was on there. Just the different, not only just all these different platforms. I salute all the platforms. No, no, no, no, wait a minute. And they all predominantly coming out of Dallas and some of them, you know, I'm taking pictures with people now. She know that you can't even go to something like, man, can we get a picture? Because they loving these platforms, bro. What do you think about it? And how does it play into the music? It's a gift and a curse. Because one thing about it as a DJ, I know, hey man, the DJ is not playing your music. You only can go so far bottom line, but the bloggers are starting to make the artist feel like, hey man, if the blogger posts you enough, you're going to be big. And that's not the case. Okay. Other than that, I love it because you still giving them an opportunity to reach somebody and be heard somewhere. So as many bloggers that come out, it's dope for the simple fact that, hey, with our child, y'all, you might be this close to helping somebody get to that next point, the next goal that they need to reach. So it's dope that the bloggers is it. It's just to catch us. Clickbait is with past the fact of positive enlightenment. You know what I'm saying? And I understand it because they turn it into a business, but at the same time, you got to be stronger.  You just got to stick to your roots and make you stronger. And a lot of people, they always fall. A lot of bloggers are always going to fall because you need content like that. Negative content draws more influence than positive content. And I hate that. That's the law of the God. I don't think you get around it though. We found that out the hard way. Like we can't get around it. We call ourself bro. When we started, it was all we're trying to do. We're trying to be positive. We're trying to be positive. And then it was all of a sudden like, nigga, did you just say this about him? I can't let you say that and get away with that. I got to bring him on here. I'm serious.  Come on, man. I'm being real. When you speak over here, I can't let that. That ain't fair. It ain't fair? You ain't saying nothing? You ain't, man, I know. Did we dig number three, didn't we? Yeah, we did. But you know what I wanted to say about? And it was... Go ahead. You know the difference with the music. When you go and DJ plays your music compared to whenever you come on a platform is that DJ play music, all you hear in is music. You fall in love with the music. But when you come to a platform, depends on the platform because some platforms don't really ask you background and all of that. You get to fall in love with the individuals because for me, I can love somebody, music. But when I meet them in person, I realize that they're a whole...  Thank you. Easy, easy. But if I get to know you... And them platforms give people a gift and occur. All right, like when we had the podcast, it made people fall in love like that. And it hit their courage. You know what I'm saying? Okay, hit that. And it got kids, you take care of it.  Right. So it works in your favor, depending on the character that you have within yourself. Exactly. And you just gotta make sure that... Like when you look at those pictures on the wall, man, that tell me the reason why we got so many different people from so many different states, from so many different places coming here being on this platform. Cause we've been dealing with all these people the whole time and it don't just... It's not just a Dallas thing. It come full circle.  It come full circle. And that's the whole game, man. Thank you for coming on Boss Talk 101, what a boss is talk, man. Like I said, Mr. Hittay, we love you. We glad you came through. No, no, no. And this ain't the last time, I know. I gotta come back and bring y'all some gear. Well, and we gonna have some for you too. You just gotta tell me when we gonna do it again. And where people can find your gear if they wanna buy it. HadalgoUSA.com and then a question going to Instagram page, HadalgoUSA. And you know... Did you have your stuff in a store at one time? There was a time. I got my clothes at Athlete's Foot in Lancaster and Athlete's Foot in Fort Worth and all the Athlete's Foot in like the DLW area in Royalty, Royalty DLW. See, I love that. How did you get it into... I first started working with Athlete's Foot on some marketing and just helping them do marketing. And then I just cranked up some clothes and they're like, man, put it in the store. And so it's just been rolling ever since. That's awesome. God open doors, no man can shut. No doubt. Man, thank you so much, man. Bless and bless. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the bosses talk. And we out.


Tom, Shazie, does John think MSP investment will lead to a full takeover? If not, then just say yes anyway to give me a slight moment of effort and happiness. Yes anyway. I think you have to wait and see the type of organisation they are, which is fundamentally venture capitalist types investing in businesses to get financial return. If they saw an opportunity to increase their shareholding, which they then thought would make them even more money, why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they? You don't need to run a business day to day. You just need to know how to get good people to run the business for you day to day. Most business is proper business. Publicly listed companies and so on. The chief executive of British Telecom isn't the guy who founded it. He's not the guy who's been there for 50 years. He's not the guy who is a big shareholder and they all get shares just for rewards. It's because he's perceived to be the right man to extract value for shareholders. If we just went into a mode of our mission is to give value to shareholders, and as a consequence of that we have to win things, then that's great isn't it? Down the track they may make financial decisions which are more about satisfying the needs of shareholders than satisfying the needs of the sporting side. That's where you run the risk that you could say well I don't know if this is true. Optible is to be top third of the Premier League from wages, transfer fees and all that. That generates profit and therefore you take dividends. That's what they want. More Americans of course as well. Of course. Fair play. But definitely you can sleep at night. John says, with the MSP investment looking done and say Mishiri users that money to complete the build of evidence stadium, does that mean we have no external debt attached to the build and Mishiri is basically paid for it? 100 million wouldn't finish the stadium. Don't you think so no? I don't think so. I think it depends of course on where they get into from a project planning perspective. Farhad says that the stadium is funded to the end of this year with him. I think there's a hole there of at least a couple of hundred million to finish it. And this is only half that isn't it? And then they'll structure the debt later anyway because I would imagine at some stage Farhad wants his money back. Because part of the complexity of this, it's funny because people talk about Farhad's done this, Farhad's done that. And it all washes through. The football club are going to pay for it all. All he's done is guarantee it. And what makes it more complicated is that he has in the recent past of course, he's converted some of his loans which have been paying cash flow or keeping us out of sanctions or helping build the stadium and so on into equity which is now getting diluted. Of course, yeah. So he's lost out already in that sense. But when the stadium construction is so far through that is, there is no doubt. I'm talking about your missus and actually your missus doing the mathematical sums and saying yes, it's crossed the line it will definitely get built.  Fair enough. Fair enough. External debt free now. We still seem wedded to payday loans and things. Not quite yet mate. No, no. But we can service it. That's the key.