two prison guards the two guys prison guards They're basically extras.  Uh, is it to minnesota or massachusetts? I mean he says because he doesn't like the cold Like they literally portray.  That's that's that's who I was disappointed with that Her boss is just a bad person. It's he's a cartoon villain person He's gonna get his comeuppance by the end of the season. I'm sure of it One fired her still seem decent.  She's He's running Hey abomination is kind of a cool guy. I don't know He shot a dog, but like he's fun God I'm impressed I've been written like decent people and judging just by the comments on my commentary video for episode one alone I know there are guys who enjoyed this episode. They didn't feel called out by the fact that she What what in the world who cares the arguments are what we care about right? Not how many men liked it What does that have to do with anything? I just don't prioritize thing They're prioritizing a male's opinion like it's supposed to be the opinion. Oh over here She mentions the catcaller stalkers mansplainers exist quite possibly because they okay, I'll I'll accept catcalling. That's fine mansplaining is not a thing. That's Explaining and anyone can do it condescendingly mansplaining is not a thing. That's you made that up And the thing is I hate in the first episode she makes this big thing out of like people at work like mansplain things to me and then Every time we see almost every time we see at a workplace or something She's either twerking or just you know just breaking rules and stuff. She's just There there are so many moments where she's as Is so incompetent.  What kind of dialogue is that? embarrassing That's a real thing that happens friend. You'd know if you had any male friends who were sexism They always do that with wet I'm gonna go and hang out with it's over there all of those Like impossible for them to portray very real subtle sexism.  He's like girls are objects. Yeah. Yeah. Are they all just cheer? Yeah This is the fucking parody version like you're not supposed to do that for real They know that they're not one to say like marvel is supposed to be for everyone Aka you don't think that men would watch this episode just because she mentions That there are some One of the comments I guess I don't know Like people said that the show was not made for men. Is that like the I mean, I yeah, like I guess I'm not is that something that people have said like that that um Like the show not being K I don't I don't why we why is this even like a topic of discussion?   You just be like come on. Come on now Can you relay to me one joke In the same way that one could relay the many one the scene where they twerked that was really good joke I mean The scene where the drunk lady called him wangers. Oh gosh, that was so good If time she did that I was laughing so hard Yeah That exist kind of a weird take in my opinion Also, are you aware that we just spent the last 10 years watching a trio of super powered white men lead?  She debuted as like a real character after them, but you know, I don't even know The ones you're talking like those three white males would have had a A chance in hell at even supporting the ones that are coming now If not for the fact that they had to work really hard to earn those fucking roles Well, I mean Yeah, cuz at this point now like the the mcu coast buy on name recognition Like all of the stuff they make now seems to make more money than a lot of the films in phase one did So like even captain america who by then was like pretty well known, I would say not as well known as like spider-man or batman But relatively well known. That was still kind of an uphill battle for those characters superhero films kind of had to earn a legitimacy um That they weren't afforded because of the genre that they were a shot in endgame of the three of them walking towards Thanos like why aren't why isn't hulk there? It's like because we recognize on a meta level that those are the three that built the mcu Yeah, and every other hero every other hero is a result of them like they wouldn't in the mcu They wouldn't have had the ant-man captain marvel dr. Strange. They all like Spawned off of the the pillars that those guys erected because they were I mean again, what what is the point does she think that there's like a general I Maybe there is like a resistance to female superheroes, which would be bizarre like it's just like a base thing You can see that What exactly like the problem is um that you look at the mcu It's like there were female heroes like persistently It did take a while before there was like a solo female-led superhero film to be sure But yeah wonder woman came out 2017 So that was five years ago and that's ignoring I guess if you want to count batwoman and uh, not batwoman Catwoman and uh and uh a lecturer if you want to count those and I'm just gonna call I think it was a misread I think it was a misunderstanding if they had done a black widow movie in phase two I think it would have made the money back Uh, I think so too.  It's like it's kind of like these heroes now get inserted in Into like a really lame phase of the mcu and are not being leveraged Like their their full potential is not being seized Yeah, just this disdain toward the the three white males. It's about time. We have something It's just like you're fine. The phase four has filled you up with with all kinds of other things. Okay, you'll be you'll be fine Let's let's all hate the fact that we've had enough white men And she was a green woman. She was the first green woman. She paved the way She she walked so that she halt could run Gamora did she had character flaws so that she didn't have to That's right.  It's just because he's white just like that's not how that works. It's the characters.  I mean Oh, yeah, it's gandalf the white not gandalf the Caucasian Hey, look lord the rings is problematic. He became more powerful when he was white. What's that about? Can't be out of this terrible, but uh, yeah, I don't know this this is the strong going Discussion that for some reason keeps getting brought up that like, you know this poor lady here She couldn't relate to the the trio of white men leading the mcu. So finally we have women. It's like, what are you talking about?   I liked mora. I like nebula Like scarlet witch up until her movie I like scarlet witch for a while there.  They kicked her in the back of the knee Crumpled it to her to her knees and yeah One pistol shot back of the head done I think we've covered the first point of this comment, but it's actually the third paragraph I want to talk about because in the most respectful way possible Wait, let's have a look at what it says He states that women exist in a state of fear and rage. That's actually more true of men Women tend to access their emotions more readily than men. They cry. They share their feelings They shriek with glee Men are taught from chill childhood to suppress their emotions to be stoic The emotional is unmanly acceptable male emotions are violence and rage as a display of strength One of the most common difficulties men have in relationship is their partners Is that their partners complain that men don't express their feelings and thoughts men are fearful that such honest expression will negate their image They've been taught to protect being a pillar of strength women have a healthier emotional life because they access their feelings and have experiences Experience integrating them into their daily existence in a more balanced way women may feel rage and fear But they don't have a monopoly on it Holy shit, that was really interesting comment. I I like it. I agree with it. She's gonna hate it So much and I completely agree with it Actually as a woman I do Well, uh, it's a it's a really interesting commentary on our society because it's Men are seen as weaker if they're more emotional Vulnerable very terrible Yes, the whole is the completely agree with this point Well, i'm curious how she's gonna react to it Let's see Point of this comment But it's actually the third paragraph I want to talk about because in the most respectful way possible I think you're missing her point and she didn't say women have a monopoly on rage and fear She said those are the baseline of any woman's existence If I implying not the baseline of existence for men meaning women have a monopoly on it Yeah, like there's no getting around that if you specify one group of people have x traits You were implying that the other group doesn't have them because then you would say those are the baseline of a human being existing That's what you would say. There's no getting around that. That's what she said So, I mean she's I think there's a couple of things wrong with this video But one of the big things is that what like getting it her way at every turn like it just keeps Well, I was gonna say what light is just a couple of them. I guess it's true, right? Is that one in the infinitely more than you do which that was the big mistake? just like This is this is kind of what e-fabs all about we want we want to accept that there are references in there that you cannot omit um If it means like you want to have your perspective perception on the analysis Even if it's um in line with what the creator intended Unfortunately, there are references that get in the way and it's like well, then that analysis is incomplete, isn't it? Can't just can't just say like oh well it's Just ignore that bit especially when she's acknowledged that that's the main thing everyone's focusing on It's like, yeah What good is your story if you have to ignore like significant portions of your uh of the subjects in order to defend it? Yeah Maybe what she said didn't resonate with you But it resonated with me and i'm sure it resonated with a bunch of other people as well So like if you don't want to hear any personal in that wasn't a counter argument So I think this is one of the problems that's encumbering the discussion around she-hawk is it's like we're having two parallel discussions There's one discussion about the the story itself like who is saying this to who in the story in the context of the narrative And then there's like the meta conversation like what are these statements to be uh read as Taken out of the story as like statements about the world Um, you can't really conflate these two discussions. You kind of have to have one or the other Um, I'm personally more interested in just talking about it in the context of the show. Yeah True anecdotes, you know skip ahead But I personally have a lot of stories to back up what Jen was talking about and i'm positive You have a lot of stories to back up what she's talking about in regards to the baseline existence of women being fear and helplessness The implication being that men less so So what what it sounds like you're building up to is that you have stories where you've been made to feel Helpless or fearful which is like man. I think everybody once you reach a certain age has Plenty of stories of that themselves like like everybody does and of course in the mcu bruce certainly has those the helplessness of this alternate persona coming out at provocation And losing two years of his life two years where he was a helpless prisoner in his own body You're not going to be able to out do that That's pretty scary and you might be quite angry about that when you like yeah, if we're gonna Bruce walk pretty upset about it when hulk was trying to not hulk when thos trying to make him hulk again Yeah, and and well if you really want to try and rank traumas like I don't think any normal human experience is going to come It's going to be difficult when I say normal.  I doubt jennif has gone through anything quite like that That's got to be a deeply terrifying experience. Yeah Especially as we saw right bruce was very concerned if he transformed again That would be the end of him that would be the end of his identity as bruce Yeah, and he did it anyway to save uh to save lives because that's what heroes do also do when If if we were to include the context of the comics where he was abused as a kid like And hulk is the manifestation of that um like it's a direct consequence of that trauma Yeah, let's uh, we'll give the benefit of the doubt that they're not that's not his history of this show And that she's not aware of it because holy fuck There are other people who can share their stories in the comments too because it's Not some like crazy thing that she pulled out of nowhere She was but she made a competition That was like that's one of the parts that really screwed it up because i'm sure everybody would agree It's like yeah mutual difficult experiences are worth sharing It's not a competition about who suffered more than somebody else, but she made it that She said that she deals with it infinitely more than he does like that. She's better at it She didn't have to say that like she didn't have to say that it's indicative of of her the fact that all of this was about Dealing with hulk stuff and then she took that really personally like how dare you i deal with plenty of stresses of my daily female life He wasn't even there was absolutely no desire on bruce's part to try and undermine her life experiences at all Just trying to like Yeah, exactly Her experiences and she's written by women who are also sharing their experience Let's not talk about the right Come on now. That's not going to help you out. This is and they're all valid experiences to talk about What is that even what is an invalid experience to talk about? I mean wouldn't we yeah Kind of confusing but I guess something that's worth touching on is that like part of your job as a writer is Like if there's a theme that's really important to you or a subject you want to broach Like your talent your craft is about finding a way to take something that's personal to you and conveyed in a way that is like comprehensible Uh to a lot of people logical in and of itself like within the story that you're telling and to some extent Like in a sense concealed Like that whatever themes that you're conveying Are um couched within the context of the story that you're creating rather than being perceived as like an essay or some statement That you're making like that's what that's what it is. It's through characters Why are we ignoring that part of the craft like how well did they actually convey? What they wanted to convey thematically That reminds me drop to cat calling and that was it Well, they sought to express it and they expressed it and that's good enough Um, it's like tlj and it's like it doesn't matter. He they did it and it's like, yeah, but they didn't do it well Exactly. No, they didn't do it.   What do you want us to do? Like we'll run out our laundry lists. Believe me. Mine's longer than yours and it's Incessant. I've gotten death threats for saying I didn't like how the earlier ironman films wrote women at one point some Um, oh no Did you not like pepperpots? I mean she was you know Like what's wrong with it? Someone told me that they wanted to rip my throat out if I Do that Um, I can't remember. I think I showed it on eFab There was a tweet that went out about me saying um, is there any way we can just get rid of more? It's just that Just like get rid of the channel or the one of them one of them said like disappear Like I wouldn't want to kill him just just make him stop And uh, yeah, this is like all the time every day. Uh It doesn't take much a lot of people And feel justified in saying this stuff if they think you're having a very big detrimental effect on the world That's the internet plus anonymity As I said people just like write stuff without Ever acknowledging that you know, you might see it. They they might address it to you I've had comments when they they were like addressed to me But when they realized that I actually saw it and reacted to it They deleted them or something, you know, they always sort of go back Um, they never actually mean it those type of stuff Even if it's a death threat or whatever It's just people being mean on the internet and there is a huge difference Yeah, and and if it's it's it's absolutely shit. Yeah. Yeah, I want to make sure that that's said Yeah, it's universal is is the thing it happens. It happens to a lot of people men and women alike Yes, I mean You know They just use Your gender Uh as an X like as a whatever they can watch on to right like whatever right if there is no gender issue Then they will find something else to criticize about you It has to do with them being you know, terrible people and not with them being misogynistic or whatever So, yeah, uh, wouldn't want to reduce the effects that reading those has on this lady right here It's just that uh, it's it's path of the course for the internet. It's a thing that happens and uh I don't know what this has to do with like She hope not really no and and if someone if she was to argue to me Well, I I resonated with she helped because that's what I feel she's referencing with the you know every day sort of stuff And I should be like yeah, everyone goes through that Unfortunately, she implied women are the ones that have to deal with it Uh, which is Worse bruce uh bruce banner one of the Probably like one of the most punished characters in fiction um That that like that hers was worse Um She didn't need to make it a competition or a contest or a comparison And why would she do that to somebody that she cares about as well? I didn't get rid of my vocal fry the last time I made a video like this I literally ended up on one of those like really weird Red pill live stream channels where they like play your video to a live stream audience and like pause Listen evab is red, but we're not red pill at least Maybe maybe we are who knows we read people on red pill on media But uh, yeah, that's that's a music though What do you know if it's in the blue one or the green one? Um, oh, yeah green for uh for she Hulk which one's that's minis But it's mini and she Hulk isn't mini. She's bigger. Yeah, so We could be You would just need to switch the whole So evap regular is green and evap mini is red It would be confusing for a while. It would be difficult to readjust to but I think we can make that work. Doesn't actually think that we're a red pill podcast. Does she because that would be hilarious Well, we haven't covered it before right this is no, but uh All right. Yeah, like afterward. I wouldn't I don't know. I just said What what podcast is she referring to then? What what is there? Is there a media covering video podcast? There's red pill that went over her she hulk video.  Everyone's made a bad video in their time, right guys? Mm-hmm Well That's up for debate really All of them are perfect. It would be a goddess with myself To sort of like deconstruct and talk about how terrible your point is except You haven't actually made your point yet because they paused in the middle of your sentence Well, we went through the whole video. Well, we will go through the whole video So you don't need to worry about that But I feel like we've caught a lot of what your points are understood them I will say I I think one of uh something I find particularly frustrating in like conversations is let me finish So just a little fun tip If you disagree with like a premise that somebody lays out that is foundational to the argument they're presenting You should be able to stop that to clarify it and make sure that you're on common ground And if the responses let me finish it's like well, if you disagree with the premise fundamentally Whatever point you're saying I can't accept we have to like wasting time because i'm just going for instance We say as long as we all agree that the earth is made out of jelly And it's like then we can it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, let me finish if we can We can all agree that in a sense the world is made out of gem In an american vernacular It's like wow actually that might be a bad example because if we do all agree that the earth is made of jelly Yeah, you would say if Ned because yeah, uh, no, you wouldn't say if we agree You would say the world is made out of jelly therefore Um and and to offer a slight olive branch the other side of that is if you said Um the world is made out of jelly and and then for you go, hey, no, no, no, no, it's not and they go Let me finish and he'd be like, okay carry on they go And I was known as a liar Then it would make sense to conclude that I was lying about that being my perspective You know like it's something that recontextualizes a little bit and you go, oh, okay That's happened only if I before and if it does happen in this video at any point Then we'll be like, oh my bad got the wrong idea on what your point was there I retract and you can carry on no harm no foul Is we've done it before it's totally okay The idea that this is a thing that can happen where we misunderstand a point because we pause halfway through it Does not mean the entire format is worthless. I don't know why That's always possible Yeah, and you can you can do all kinds of things and uh, I don't know I just want the format is the execution And hey, you know what you're welcome to come on and talk about your points point of view if you'd like to I have a feeling you're not going to want to and that's okay too All the while their live stream comments are showing up on screen Where their audience members are saying things like why would anyone listen to this ugly buck of tooth, bitch? Oh my god, chat chat. I'm looking at you. Don't you dare. Don't you dare.  I did it. I said I think it ball the day Give them exactly what they want What are you supposed to do with that information? Ignore it. It's useless. It's absolutely ignore it. Yeah So, hi, I was gonna say I do it all the time all of us do Hi, if you're watching from one of those channels. Um, you do not actually have my permission to use this content in your video So that's Such a moment of just like, well I'm afraid you put this on a website notice youtube in which there's public availability invisibility of your perspective Sorry, but uh, we're already too late on that front.   Oh, geez Had someone come within two inches of my face to say, hey, I think you're pretty Can you take your mask down so I can see your smile?   Most of it. I mean unless it's it's actually dangerous situation, which you know happens If you're dealing with a psycho then it just sucks Most of the time those people are just You know, they want attention and if you don't give them that attention, they're gonna, you know go for it they're gonna insult you Because they're insulted themselves and you know, you just go back and laugh about it most of the time If you're not actually dealing with a psycho You know one of them smile hunters that are just You should just know how to handle those situations otherwise you know Yeah, but I'm assuming we tying this back into liking she-hulk like I The statement by jen spoke to because it's relatability in terms of dealing like these shitty interactions with people And I would just be like, yeah, I wish you were in a good show that made the point better Again, it's like she again she said she said to bruce that she's better at controlling her emotions because she does it infinitely More than him like there's no getting around that statement She said it to the worst possible character like that she could have said to and she didn't need to And that's like a lot of where the discussion Well, that's where I think the discussion should be focused in the context of the story As long as we get into all this it's it's just um, you know And then I still don't say anything So he calls me a bitch again and leaves and I just have to pretend I'm not shaking I was literally just waiting outside a public bathroom for my sister to come out. We were on a walk Like you should be able to exist and go on walks with I mean, this is the thing. There are shitty people out there.  That would be nice, too like But we not People are free to do a lot of really weird and annoying and then downright horrifying things Give them the proper attention that they wanted from you Just a little odd freshman year of high school My best friend got off a stop later than she was assigned and walked a longer distance home Just so she didn't have to walk past a motel where grown adult men would sit on plastic chairs And yell comments about her body freshman year of high school So she was 14 15 years old Eventually she got in trouble for getting off at the wrong stop And she just never took the bus again in college one of my room anyway, she hulk Yeah, I mean terrible people exist Sexist people exist all those people exist, but what does this have to do with she hulk?   Does that then counterbalance? Like what what are we doing? This isn't about the show anymore. This is just about how you feel I think she would say that he would have incorrectly read because I mean that's what she said about that comment, right? And it's like right. So what we're doing right now is kind of like ancillary We're just like The show and and like the characters and what they said to each other I think you're right that she would say there's an incorrect reading But the fact is like who out of the two sides of this argument are having to omit lines Yeah, the the the omission of the lines is um Like I think that's just a recognition that like you know that there was a mistake in the show that that line was a mistake And that it it fundamentally changes what she said away from what you're describing it as into something different and less defensible And that's that's like I I guess um I don't know why you would go to such like extents to defend it like you could still I mean hell you can still feel compelled to like defend I guess the subject matter and the point that they were probably trying to make Like if it's a you know like whatever points you agree or disagree with without having to go to like these lengths to defend it yeah Rip it doesn't have to be like treated as flawless Even if you like it it doesn't have to be treated as flawless TV off of her wall while they were in the middle of an argument. Why who knows? Make a point was just that angry Who knows? Sorry, what was that story? argument why who knows She just never took the bus again in college one of my roommate's boyfriends literally ripped the tv Off of her wall while they were in the middle of an argument. Why who knows? Ah Yeah, so the reason I wanted to check that was uh I had a guy friend whose girl friend went nuts on him took his tv It wasn't on the wall It was on the stand on a cabinet thing and she threw it at him. He uh, he dodged it though Jesus. Yeah, um, I only heard it. I didn't see it I wish anything similar to these types of experiences were depicted in the show itself for her to defend it to this level But the only thing it came close to like oh those guys called her pretty and she almost killed them We've talked about it so many times like why didn't you have one of them grab your wrist and pull it? Yeah, um, it's it's enough. It could have been like it could have been something else as well Like she could have been startled by something just like something that was around I don't know like I mean she just got out of a car crash, right?  You know, they just Took a two step And that's it It's um, unfortunately, it's just like the dawn where This man There's like how about a smile which is like, okay. It's annoying um for a lot of women and then He she says how about a handshake instead?  Yeah, sure. And then she like electrocutes him Salt and then stealing his motorcycle And a lot of people defended it like yep, that's the way it should be and it's like no again You need to have her say like i'm not interested and then he grabs her by the wrist and pulls it back and says Oh, come on.   It's too raw or like too, um, distressing because it still needs to be like, um content that is easily consumed And enjoyed and like pushing anything too far would make people uncomfortable So they won't do that and so then you have a scene like that Um at the beginning of this episode or uh or like that captain marvel bit Make a point was just that angry Who knows at one point during a completely different fight She knocked on my door and asked me to come into the kitchen to mediate their argument I was like, do you want me to bring my pepper spray out? She's like, no I just want you to stand in front of the knife so he doesn't grab them while we're talking.  There's so many people going through so much worse But that's why I think it's denying that this is like a thing that happens though in real life She could have said all these stories in favor of literally any content ever and bound it to it In some way she performed with some character going through something This doesn't change that she hulk is shit. I'm sorry Jen to be like rage and fear the baseline of any woman existing if not the baseline of existence There are at least emotions. Why could she say that? That Exactly you keep trying. You're like her lawyer. You keep trying to make the life sound better That's not what they are if they were that they would be better, but they're not that They are There imagine she did say like I go through fear and um and sort of helpless feelings a lot in life Don't you and then the hulk would be like, well, yes But you know, I'm trying to create a sense here that's a little bit unusual Not like a baseline sort of thing But even that may trigger it so we've got to be careful like we spawn in actual You know like appeal to there's a lot of things that are outside of your control So you need to focus on that which is in your control and what needs to be in your control is transforming Like you need to be in control 100 because the external world is not going to like respond to accommodate you like you it's Unfair as it is like it's you you have to be able to respond to like situations You need to be prepared to help people you need to like that's what it could have been and you could even that could have been As a thing to explore you could even have these elements thrown in with a level of self-awareness like in the middle of exploring What makes you angry?  Yep And uh, there you go. It's addressed and brought up as a thing Well, especially when she expressed that she doesn't want to like deal with this persona at all It's like so now the focus of our training is you need to have it under control at all times if that's what you want to do That's the thing you really could have had like the hulk and gen training thing being like I mean if we were being particularly bold that could have been a whole season's worth of television But um, you know even a couple episodes could have been worthwhile Alongside everything else you could be having a good time with your friends and you're still like oh my god It's like I following me down the street like you're still aware That there could be danger these little moments They all build up to how women carry themselves in public They build up to the constant situational awareness you have to have they build up to know there's an irony here um, I was uh, I've walked down the Places that are super dark narrow in places. I haven't even been before in towns I'm in because of a party whatever and I get legit like I hope I don't get mugged or something. This is like super dangerous territory But like I guess like the way that this is being described is like yes, but you wouldn't understand it The experience as a woman or whatever and be like, yeah, but don't you think that that then accidentally I'd imagine Uh, it's like expunging all of the other sex's experiences that relate to these sorts of situations Like don't you legitimize other people's experiences?  Calculating the distance between like where you are in the next building And like would you be able to make that distance if someone came to try to grab you from the back? Would you make it getting in your car immediately lock in the door changing out of the skirt? Even though it's a really cute outfit because you know your class isn't going to end until 8 p.m. And at that point you're walking home in the dark You don't want to be walking home in a skirt in the dark girls have literally been killed for saying no to wanting to go out With someone and you think that doesn't affect the way that we interact in public. We constantly I don't I don't know Wait, you just just ran off and who are you talking? Yeah, I don't know who you're talking to anymore You Know that we could be in danger no matter what we say, so we're constantly editing what we say Which is frustrating.  Don't you have the exact same experiences me miss bringing up the reference of I'm a different person Therefore I have different experience. It's like Oh All right, dang and it's a valid Experience to talk about even if parts of the audience don't want to hear it Which is why I've been thought about the audience not wanting to hear. It's the audience is critical of what they heard Getting slightly frustrated at comments like these I'd honestly much rather endure catcalling and mansplaining than experience any of the pain and suffering that hulk has had to endure agreed Yeah, the show is so dumb once they disrespect hulk and bruce who are talking about women's issues is worse than what bruce has gone through Yes, okay, explain to me why these comments are wrong Especially comments like this one. So you say you want bruce to shush her because she hasn't tried to kill herself Well, first of all That is so out of character for bruce to do. It's not even funny.  I doubt there would be anywhere near as many comments like this Original wound 1983. All right. So this was out of character two.  I'll complain about this in a video one day guys. Don't you worry 14 years old That was weird.    It's like see bruce doesn't interrupt people when they say things like what? Hey, just so you know, you're not a monster. You still think you're the only monster on the team I don't even know what what are you what are you saying with this? That is in character for bruce to not interrupt people And the fact that he created this space for jen so she has a safe space to express her frustrations Knowing that he will listen to her that says a lot about bruce and it also says yeah, but it is what what do we What is the point that you're trying to make that like bruce would allow her to speak her mind like yeah Yeah, so it would just happen say himself like though if he disagrees with her So the train of thought here goes the commenter says I wish bruce had Pointed out how wrong she is about everything she said and how he's gone through a lot more than here Her point is we've seen that bruce doesn't fucking stand up for himself or talk over someone when they're sharing their experiences And he's created this environment for her to express her feelings Which doesn't actually counter the commenters initial thought which is that he should have countered this He's listening to her of course.  I I'm talking about like You know parts of your life that are the most stressful and that those will almost guaranteed trigger you into becoming something that could hurt people Sure, they could be launched by smaller Uh moments in your life that are causing stress and stuff, but You know like anything but he sort of just like as she even put it There's an even expression on his face at one point where he's kind of agreeing with her Completely nonsense out of character He wouldn't feel that way and he shouldn't feel that way doesn't he make sense About their relationship clearly as people in chat are pointing out, you know, maybe a b would land on your hand Feel to control this I don't know Well, yeah, I imagine if there was a spider like in the courtroom or something, you know Just like a little old. I don't know what crazy like spiders. There are in america And then that freak out she tried to form we kind of joke about that True like this is what uh Remember she said like the the experience she was having with those guys is clearly fear that triggered it And it's like well if you believe that then she needs to do a lot of training We need to see as we saw if a spider can trigger it Well, I mean as we saw right a A mega horn or like an air horn blown into her ear will trigger a transformation Meanwhile in adventures bruce got zapped with like a little electrical fraud and it didn't do anything Yeah, so like there's there's there's uh specters or maybe not like there's degrees of control And uh in two days, there's not long enough to figure them out. No And look this could just be me but there's something that feels really off About comments like these Honestly, she just seems ignorant, especially that scene where she's venting on how hard her life is. I just wanted hulk to push his thing Oh, well, I kind of yeah, I agree with the whole she seems ignorant of his uh experiences But that doesn't make sense. She can't be or she seems to be she seems the way that she talks to him It's as though she's unaware of his experiences, but like their family Maybe she doesn't know all the details, but she would know more than the average person could know about hulk's A bruce's life. Let's look at our references in total, right? All of the bigger traumatic events He's been through are actually pretty public record. Like they're not even stuff you need to know by being his family Yeah, then you've got She's a lawyer so she's probably pretty familiar with these events having happened and what they meant The law as well like I don't see why yeah, you know, why wouldn't she be fully aware of the um The accords and how they relate to her cousin superhero duties like when she's a lawyer that would feel really weird if she did maybe Maybe she does know that he attempted suicide. Maybe that's something And it was it was a direct consequence of him being hulk That prompted him to do that And then like she she even talked about the fact that she knows about all the trauma that he's gone I was gonna say that's the final references that she admits to knowing about all of it.  Yeah, yeah They just feel very similar to sentiments that I think end up causing More harm than good to see what about the harm done to bruce Who you know him defending himself might harm jen so we can't do that God so self-centered see people specifically say they want her to stop talking. It's not about not sharing your pain She's welcome to do so. She compared herself to him.  That's not what everyone's saying Don't get help for things that are affecting their daily life And don't even make efforts to try to find a community that will support them All because they're constantly comparing their struggles to what everyone else around them is going through But the thing is a jen did that jen did that not bruce There is always going to be someone who has it worse than you and be Different people carry different weight differently. What a great point. You should tell jen that Something that might be really easy for you to deal with sound there was always someone worse off than you Just imagining the most worst off personally in the world Categorically like what does that even look like?  I guess. Oh, it's it's the problem of You can't have the conversation about the show in a vacuum Or at least you're trying not to you have to tie it into the broader discussions Sociopolitically and and everything culturally and it just makes it a lot harder to engage with the like the material itself And the material is that jen somebody who knows a lot about bruce and what he's gone through When he was trying to help her get control of abilities that could be dangerous to the people She cares about and people that she doesn't even know That she came back at him without response of like comparing their level of trauma and their ability to deal with it Could be incredibly hard to carry for someone else and even if it's a mundane issue You still deserve a space to talk about it. Nobody said anything other than this. I don't even know who you talked to once again Who has ever said that she was not given space? Or like she shouldn't have been given space. I just don't understand I really do not have to carry your burdens alone to me this mentality truly just keeps people from getting the help But I mean jen wanted to essentially because she left she didn't want to hang out with bruce anymore She didn't want to work through it anymore She used that as a means of leaving So like that's not Correctly comparable to this scene. It feels like you're talking about a totally different scene like a scene that doesn't exist in the show It might need just because I mean the whole the whole thing with with jen is that she is essentially denying that This is something she has to deal with now when the whole point that bruce is going for is trying to get her to be Open and aware of it and deal with it with him. And yet the argument is Dead is being open and honest and the commenters are trying to stop her those foul creatures What does it mean to try and stop a fictional character from like expressing their genuine perspective?  We should totally see how to And just take it all in and and not express any disagreement If we flipped them and it was a guy who's starting to imply that he experiences more trouble than this woman could ever understand I think she the creator of this video would be in favor of that woman standing up for herself and interrupting him expressing his experiences by her Saying about her experiences, you know, like it goes both ways. I don't I don't think there's a problem In them both expressing Themselves how they feel about all these different events just because he's interrupted does not mean she'll never be able to say it ever again The worst does not mean you don't also deserve a space to talk about what you're going through and your experiences And I think this is a fair point, right? Obviously not everyone wants to watch Western women, but this is my thought, right? If you know, you don't like to watch western women Don't say that they should have expected this from she help.  I'm probably never gonna say the same thing to you.  She watches and likes everything they put out Hey, it's made for her. Okay Even the trilogy of white men that was kind of made for it You relate to them because of the white part not the men part, but hey Okay, so what if I'm just a hulk fan and I just watched it for a hulk, right? That was your mistake. I can do that, right? You should have known better The master friend They should have got it with the hazmat suit first and then told you whether or not it was dangerous Hmm the punisher If you know, there is a pretty big chance. You're not gonna like it. Just don't a pretty big wait So I should just avoid stuff that I think I won't like As opposed to hoping like I don't even dude.  I thought you're gonna say stranger things Both of those would be things I wouldn't have watched if I went by her logic I I mean surely we would still want to be in a world where we encourage people to give stuff a fair shape. Absolutely Dude, I gave she held a fair shake You probably wouldn't like it so don't watch it. It was like oh Okay I'm not gonna give it a shot, but okay Someone said if more did that he wouldn't have this channel. I didn't expect to dislike tlj. I thought I was gonna love it No, I thought I think I've maintained the trailer for tlj. It's still pretty banger, but uh the film Oh, I still get chills though It's pretty cool Also, I'll be right back you guys entertaining yourselves Oh, why why do you make me do this? I'm playing splatoon. I can't concentrate Play splatoon at the same time It's impossible Maybe it's not we'll give it a try Oh, shit, well I'm struggling Uh-oh. Oh, no, I'm too focused. I'm in it. I mean I'll help him out. Give him a give him a subject.  No You playing again, I I saw like you just you just playing a game where you shoot a bunch of paints onto Like into like areas and then you that gives you control over the map And if you cover the most of the map with that then you win And then there's other game modes like tower control where you just got to stay on top of like the tower and make sure that it gets to the um To the other side of the map and then rainmaker where you got like a gun It's super powerful and you got to like just use it to try and get to the other side of the map What survive trying to just get to the other side of the map actually in the game Oh But otherwise, yeah, I don't know much commentary It only just came out so I'm still figuring out what I think about it overall Have either of you watched house of the dragon or no I am Yeah I never been really I never been really into uh game of thrones Yeah, so I didn't really see so I didn't really like I I felt like I needed to watch that first before I watched the prequel show Wow So I've only watched like six or seven episodes of uh game of thrones So I went into house of the dragon fairly unfamiliar with uh It set well before the show Uh like the main show so i'm not even sure how much It matters like how much you're aware of the show actually um Yeah, I figured that that might be I guess uh, what's interesting right now is that it's kind of impossible to like Talk about house of the dragon without comparing it to rings of power because yeah, they're both high fantasy Uh like big budget television shows based on uh like an intellectual property that everybody really cares about And what's really I guess awkward to compare With rings of power to house of the dragon is in three episodes house of the dragon has set up several major players It's got like it's it's stacking up essentially uh like a really um Perilous situation Where all of these characters with their different objectives and priorities are going to clash And meanwhile like by the end of episode three of rings of power Feels like we barely achieved anything at all like I don't even know if there was really any passion or like an idea behind that story I um Like I'm legitimately like it seems to me like they had access to lord of the rings They wanted a lord of the ring show for their like network and for their streaming service but As for a story that they wanted to tell Uh in that universe it seems like there wasn't that much inspiration It feels that way like they didn't really know what they wanted to do with it Except but they had it and they spent a lot of money on it and they needed to make that investment for the sake of the streaming service Didn't capitalize off of like peter jackson and didn't just Pre-cool or something. I don't know what I understand They don't have access to a lot of lord of the rings They only have access to certain parts of it that precludes them from a lot of uh A lot of material in lord of the rings because I think it's set like a thousand years before The uh like the hobbit and lord of the rings Um, and so there's like a lot of things that they have to kind of like maneuver around Though as well, I think uh peter jackson said that he was like willing to be involved and they just never got back to him Wow That's that's your mistake Wow, it's um, I guess I want to make their own thing, which is uh, oh apparently it's a lot earlier than that um, yeah, I guess uh I I wonder if it's a show that will be able to persist purely on name recognition because I've said it a few times I just I don't know what it is that like people would latch on to in that show that they would really enjoy I find it to be so dull Yeah, like it's um It's a really empty show. It doesn't have many characters that are well developed I kind of liked um, I kind of like the uh, the guy that got introduced in episode three in that uh On the island the what was his I don't remember his name He was like the first character Elendil I think is yeah Um Yeah, otherwise Yeah It will be interesting to see but I mean we've from what we've heard it's doing just fine amazon the feds got great numbers I'm sure everyone loves it. Uh, I mean now in direct competition though Because how did the dragon shot up like several million viewers right episode three got like six million more viewers than uh two and one I'm so interested to do that I've enjoyed it I mean I've heard it's good, but it's not as good. So I'm just wondering how to compare us to I suppose three episodes is not going to be able to be as good as like the best at game thrones, but maybe in future Well, who knows right there's potential there. Whereas uh, I yeah, I guess I don't see the trajectory of uh rings of power I don't know. I don't know where it's going Alrighty then we go another six minutes of this video See what climactic finish there is Rune your day by watching it That is such an easy solution And in the meantime, you've got to just accept that you're not always going to be the target audience for every piece of media that comes out for um, would it be fair then to say that if uh, you know when they say like uh wrinkle in time wasn't made for you like, um free Larson said uh Are we to conclude that like captain america winter soldier for example is made for white men and thus we shouldn't like when Anyone who doesn't fit that description says they're not enjoying it for that reason We should tell them to go look at other stuff. Is that is that what we're at because I don't think that I don't think she would say that I think the problem is that like I I shouldn't I I don't think you should Lame the audience, but like it's the writer's job to make sure that Their demographic and the ones that they're aiming for coincide And I don't think I think this series really misses that you know it misses Who mcu fans actually are and what they actually watch these types of shows for right they want action They want you know significant like you know character arcs and stuff and this type of humor and I don't know like twitter Written narrative is just it's not something that they will go for And I don't think you should blame the audience for it For example, I don't actually feel like I'm the target audience for everything in this episode I personally really did not like the steve roger sex life joke That is literally bordering not even bordering that that is what people tell people who are on the asexual or aromantic spectrum Oh my god, I thought she was gonna go the direction of saying he was objectifying him Uh You can't objectify a hetero white man.  Um, but she does not I thought it was also interesting that she said a lot of the stuff in this episode was not I'm not the target audience of and then goes on to make What she feels to be a righteous sort of like indignation argument, which I I think she just categorizes this stuff different than I would so for example If if I watch tlj and say luke's had a character and then she says, yeah, well It's just not made for you person who enjoys people who are in character Like I just like what? Like that's um in the same vein like she doesn't appreciate Humor in in a in a place to try and make light of like something that she considers to be unethical or something Like oh, I guess it's not made for me. It's like, well, no, that just sounds like a criticism that you can have for your own You know ethical systems and stuff. That's just normal. We all do this with everything We don't just like anytime something comes up and we're critical of it. We don't conclude. Ah, it wasn't made for me That's weird If you don't have this certain relationship, yeah, you're a waste also just the fact that that that is what faggy decided Was so important calling up the ruso brothers and saying hey Hey, my favorite guys.  Send them down the river next to tony's during the funeral two seconds Little scene just something just something, you know, sweet. You see taking the issue with this wouldn't mean it's not made for you It would it's a general I think it's fair to be critical of the fact that natasha wasn't given the same send-off That tony was considering they made essentially the same sacrifice Um, I think that is a bit of a problem in endgame. It's meta reasons why tony's given the big send-off It's almost like uh, this is the guy that allowed everyone else to get where they are in the mcu Um, but in universe He died so that they could save the world. So did she Almost in exactly the same way like first, you know related to the stone. So You can make that criticism. It doesn't mean that it's not you're not the target audience Like that's such a weird conclusion to come to after making that criticism, you know That is a bit strange Tony was their leader, I don't think the cap or well anybody in the avengers would think we can't give natasha a similar level of Appreciation and funeral because she wasn't as high a rank as him Like that they would never do that For me because I think that would be important. No That That is not important Making sure the audience knows steve rogers did not die of urge and he knew how to fight you're british again Why is everybody british? It's quirky It's the quirk Okey-dokey do Yeah, that's that's important. It really shows you where the priorities lie. What timeline am I oh my god? I could talk your head off all day about how that's true.  It's come fear here. It's more consistent You should you should check it out my living in that's the question So yeah, even if it's like a feige approved joke to me steve rogers worth more than if he's had sex or not I'm also getting slightly more put off by marvel's insistence that sex is the end all be all of relationships This feeling has been there for a while. It really picked up some steam when eternals came out and I read that Oh, yeah, I've heard about this the Some line from the creator I or she was like we need to show that their relationship means more than thinking by having them have sex like You know, there are a lot of ways of doing that. You don't have to have it. Okay, fine interview that Chloe gave about why she wanted to include the sex scene where she specifically said that she wanted to like humanize that aspect of the relationship as if the emotional and intellectual part of the relationship isn't The human part to me.  She's very superficial She's self-centered. She's an asshole Episode four remember how when she was doing the little fourth world break while she had to leave a date to like she keeps talking about how attractive He is it's not important But it is it's like and then she just keeps talking about how attractive he is. It's like, what are we doing? this is hilarious like Thinking of cap naked is what she'd like considers the human real and thing to relate to about him like that's jen She would relate to is that As opposed to him being a hero who made a lot of sacrifices for the world And they wrote that that's what the way they want it. Okay, that's who she is Here's about his cock You guys wrote this we didn't The real side this man literally jumped on a grenade in bootcamp as a sacrifice to protect That's a weird one to pick out of that's not even public knowledge I would probably go with All of the other things that he did at the end of all of his movies as the big things that you know But okay fair enough everyone else and we are running with the fact that his sex life Is his human side of him anyways back to the video while I erase this article from my brain And I recognize that my opinions are not shared by everyone in the marvel fandom No, but you make some good points And I don't then see these points and go. Uh, well, you're not the target audience That's a really weird thing to say That is why the internet's new favorite and credit scene has probably become one of my least favorites, but I didn't like that through shit Just because I don't like that scene Doesn't mean I'm gonna start sending hate comments to everyone who liked it. I'm gonna say, okay They thought it was funny. It must have been for them. Not for me. That's fine. It's that easy. Um I've seen some people like it. I don't know why Why? I don't know Bringy, did you like it? Can you explain it? What the post-credits scene of episode one? Yeah I'm sad dead. No Anyone just wasn't very funny It's funny because virgins Alrighty I'm gonna go around throwing personal insults right and left Welcome to the internet. You don't have to explain why it happens. It just does like You can you can go on for lengths of time for all the motivations all the people say all the mean things But I mean wouldn't waste your time Just because someone has a different brain than me and likes different things and thinks differently That would be ridiculous. What have they said to her? I was hoping to be convinced by your video That I was like narrow-minded on it and then I got offended by several things you said about men Or something. Well, would she how'd she deal with that? Do you think she would just be like, yeah You misunderstood what I said then I thought it was just a difference of opinion though That's the thing, right? She's saying like we've all got different brains Just let let be what is and you just be like, yeah, but what if someone's coming to you because they want to get their mind changed Isn't that what the point of this video is to the persuade? Like, you know, we disagree Fundamentally, I guess with her, but I'm still willing to hear out her arguments. They weren't very good But is it bad that I was willing to hear them? Should I have avoided them? Because man, it just seems like we're fostering polarization at that point This, like at some stage of the game You've got to just respect that people relate to and like different pieces of media differently True, but when you give us references that are wrong We want to then ask you why you've given us incorrect references And what does it mean to you when you realize that there's other ones like we It's like an obvious thing and we could be wrong. You could be wrong Old discussion happens. Maybe someone on either end learns grows. Who knows Fun times can be ahead instead of assuming it always goes bad And this is kind of an aside, but if you have a very distinctive last name It is just some friendly advice. Maybe don't use that account to comment Things like you don't think women can drive because someone could very easily Google search your name Okay, yes, this is so random. So that's uh, that's on that's your choice and that's a weird thing to do And find out that you comment things like FAP FAP FAP Why are you looking into this? Board interest that is So what is happening? What why would you do that like tracking someone down or nice?    We all know it. We all know it. Can you imagine all she had to do was stop? Yeah, I mean everyone made this joke They they didn't do a good job of giving her good reason to do what she did.   That's the joke He's his horniness is getting in the way of him being able to drive that is that is what people conclude from this scene. Yes No, that would be ridiculous Uh, that's what everybody's conclusion was but okay again. It would be ridiculous Also, it's just so funny to me because it's like do these people think That feige did not approve this episode. He made a point What does that have to do with anything first?   He definitely approved the rest of this episode too like he definitely approved Jen talking about her experiences to bruce. What does that have to do with anything? I don't care what kevin approved. What do you mean? so I was actually Thinking about it the other day like what is kevin feige thinking about right now because I mean he has been nurturing this Since 2007 right like he has been through all of this And now we get to she-hulk So what is going on inside his head like what is going on inside his head when he sees that twerking scene? Or like You know going from the beginning from iron man to here Does he not care or does he just simply not actually watch any of these? I have no clue I don't know what is involved. Yeah, this is why saying that he Approved it or didn't approve it means nothing to me. That is that tells me nothing about how good the thing will be What some of y'all want to do with that information, but hopefully it's not continue to send hate comments to people Why would that change anything about anything? I don't even Okay, fine kevin feige approved of it. And here's the thing right? I am sure there are a lot of people out there who are commenting this who are like decently upset that bruce's backstory has not been explored and that bruce's trauma hasn't been given much weight And I think that's fair But it just seems like a lot of the reactions and the comments that I've been seeing Have been a lot more about people jumping on the bandwagon and getting incredibly excited to show women That they truly do not want to hear them talk about their experiences.  It's like has like 100 approval. He's not like considered an annoying part of it That ever wants her to shut up and go away Maybe it's about execution rather than the presence of a woman speaking Because uh, I think our civilization has gotten over that at this point. They're okay with women talking now I know I am You guys, uh, you guys are all guys, right? Otherwise, have I been tricked? Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah They really want to tell you how mundane and foolish it is to talk about cat callers and the um in that context, yeah I think I even think she might agree if we were to ask her that question like In the context of what makes people hulk out what kind of things you need to control Bringing up cat calling is kind of It's just strange. Like what are you? I wish Bruce was just like no, I don't mean stuff like that.  It's it's the implication thing Um, I don't think yeah, they haven't had any all men must die or anything like that in the show up to this point. So that's um That's a thumbs up. I guess good job. Thank god. They didn't they didn't want to genocide all men in a marvel property gold stars Bruce is literally Standing there as proof that all men don't suck. Okay. We all know Andrew Garfield exists That's a joke don't put celebrities and pedestals, but also Andrew Garfield, you know She's basically just talking about direct experiences in her life And just because there are worse hardships in the world does not mean you can't talk about what you're going through And just because a piece of media is not relatable to everyone doesn't mean it shouldn't exist and that about some Wait, I want to say this shouldn't exist like It'd be stopped entirely removed from culture. That's the first day of that one It up. Hopefully now that the first episode has aired Um, the people who hate it will stop watching it and stop clicking in to tell us how much they dislike it and us That would be great. I'm I'm really hoping for that. But anyways, thanks for watching guys Thanks for sitting here as I rant about this yet again. We've got another in defense of video But another one. Thanks for watching guys. See ya Well There it is, uh Yeah, she uh He didn't get the best of responses to that video several people disagreed When you know what they shouldn't have watched it at all. They should have known at that point that They disagreed and thus there's no point in seeing it Um pretty bad not gonna lie. Yeah, I think that's a fair way to put it the One of the weaker ones we've seen I think but Hey, keep at it. Keep making videos just uh, you know It almost seemed like she was on her way to being critical of she held but she sort of sees it as If ever I'm critical of it. I'm just not the target audience for the particular thing, which is just bizarre Very strange And she falls into that category of react channel. That's just like mindless praise of everything this There's no like real There's no commentary. It's just like oh my god. That just happened and it just comes away to the next thing and then like This may I mean this may sound a little uh one being hyperbolic But like having the nerve to be a react channel and then make a review of something And then try to defend something when you know, you don't have the capacity to be to be objective or analytical It's like stop Like it's beneficial. Oh go ahead Just so are you saying like she's one of those channels that it's like you try and play up the fun You're having because it's it's part of like the yeah back and forth And so they then review it when you know that Part of your channel to benefit from Being positive about the thing no matter what? Yeah, yeah, she's feeling She's She's marketing towards a certain demographic of people on youtube They just want to watch the movie through her and they don't want to hear any lip from anyone. They don't want to hear a They can't project themselves on her if she has a Unique opinion about the film.  It's very sad But it's true but and then Like she wants to turn around and like oh in defense of this and we all saw how that worked out because You feel like unless you're gonna break away from this gimmick Like don't don't make a video like this ever again Hey you know it If she was to express her honest feelings and go right ahead, uh, I would just I would tell it to foster that side of her that was critical for a few seconds there That was the the more interesting part. I think like Reducing bruce's trauma. That's that's what they did focus on and think about it Maybe they didn't write that episode very well. Maybe Wouldn't want to push you into thinking that too much Something to think about Yeah, um, that's that that's the video covered in just four hours and 20 minutes not bad everybody Um, also, what's the uh, what's the backgill trailer? I thought back it wasn't happening Uh, yeah, I thought it was real and I looked at it was like, okay, this is fake. It's a really good fake But it's a fake. I think I think people on twitter got duped And then there's the um Well, there's been more announcements, right? Or is there not? Yeah, that's the Marvel stuff like thunderbolts and whatnot So we yeah, there's that movie Apparently the team is very different from the comic book team and taskmaster is going to be in it But I don't know So I think it's got yelena. It's got um, bucky John walker Taskmaster red guardian was it uh, david the harvest guy and um ghost from ant man in the wasp That's the team is very different from the comics for what I understand So they're gonna be um, I don't know if people are happy about that or not They're gonna be announcing the cast for the guy who made one division is yeah, he's directing fantastic for so Yeah, I get excited Have they announced the cast for that yet? No, they didn't Well, that's whatever it was expecting Well, I guess they're disappointed then that's presumably Everyone's favorite ghost is like Guarantee half of chat don't know who ghost is Don't even remember who another yeah um and uh Like I think sacred invasion and I got a trailer. Ooh We watch that you see what that is. Yeah All right I'm gonna google it or youtube it. Hopefully it gives me exactly what I'm looking for Hey question. That's the one with uh, the scrolls and good ol. Yeah, like fury, right? And we're not gonna get dinged for this, right? Believe us alone Oh Beams That's never been done before technically speaking what you need to see before seeing this is captain bobble, right? I think this comes out before oh, I guess you need to see captain marvel. Maybe Um, I think this comes out after credits of no far from home. That's about it Right, I guess Who it is For years look really cheap You've been avoiding earth I have called for your help plenty of other times and you've been pretty content to let those calls go straight to voicemail I remember her hill She's sometimes she pops Oh that cat scratches How much do you know about your security detail? What do you mean? How much do I know about him? There's a scroll in there Oh Everybody's wearing hats now fury. Oh, yeah We got him.  Yeah Blown in foreskin. Oh no, I'm see a double here for crusty There are no shape for this fight that lies before us. This is my war Dude, people will go nuts over this because they'll be like finally something serious in the mcu instead of the goof And then it'll be Samuel jackson walking down alley ways.  Yeah, don't worry folks got plenty more tv shows on the way They have the templates right so like when their show is a bit more serious or their movie Sounds and like when it's more happy, it's like, oh Yeah, just go for a little bit more upbeat music and then when it's in the middle you just go for like the middle road music Like they've got like three tablets for their for their trailers that they use Yeah, I don't know I feel bad for anybody who knows what the comic version of whatever this is is because it's not going to be that Is like got a lot of characters in it that just aren't in the mcu So it's gonna be different Get excited everybody Yeah, no so much content. Yeah We got tv shows gonna be coming out of your ears. Loki season two guys. That's on the way God You love season one.  I don't know I feel like we're taking risks already You know either way we should probably get on with there's nothing in that trailer really it's just bunch of Ocean and then like yeah, there's literally this close-up of of her and that's it Her singing basically How wonderful Yeah, very everybody can't wait So original So, uh, what I will say is that we're gonna we're gonna get into super chats now And I will offer that uh j longbone and not so you've both been fantastic. Would you like to bow out at this moment? That's a preference I'll stay a little longer Oh, all righty then I shall soldier on let's see. Let's see what we got here Looks at the number of women on this episode two. Yeah Can you believe it? rockin the E-fab first probably not actually we had an episode with three women came on so There's no record setting just yet There's why hello there. Hello Lord long bong of muslington abbey Is there any good chance of a kong fap of peter jackson's long kong when there's less going on there'll be a movie fap for the ages Yeah, I think so What's what's the word on on long kong king kong peter jackson kong? Aaron is there any good you remember? What's what's the memory on that? Oh Jesus all I remember is adrian brody looking broody and that's about it Adrian broody well We're gonna get around to it at some point we'll check Opinions on season six episode one of r and m. IMO it was quite decent. Oh rick and morty um Oh, I disagree me and me and for you were not fans Oh, no, I didn't like it The old thumbs down. I'm in the butt uh Queen's dead is mola affected bazaar cup and hi Hello, uh, am I affected? I mean, you know not not in a grand sense, but also personally, you know, it's just uh The reality figured it was gonna happen at some point Uh Try to avoid reading what twitter has to say about it. That's all you got to do. You should be like la la la Uh and all looks like it has hope dear. I say Yeah, maybe maybe I'm gonna give it a shot. Are you guys?  No I'm off the star wars Thunder says stop with the hope for and or fine. You're still gonna watch it though I wasn't a big fan of rogue one Initially, so I don't know honestly. It's been so long since that. I don't know that Any expectations should be made of and or from rogue one like it's who knows what this thing is gonna be Yeah, I'll just wait for people to say something and If they like it I might check it out Molly explain why iron man 3 is keynote to the guests. I don't I don't like I know plenty of people do and that's great, but I kind of hate it I don't remember it Um, it has like really interesting ideas and then shane black does a ryan johnson He's like wouldn't it be funny if I made these ideas hollow and destroyed them like no Don't have to do that specifically the whole mandalorian thing and only getting ptsd from the events of avengers Both of those things are made into a joke frustrating, but Here we are Hello chat people and efap devil fruit of the week.  So probably not then like oh, yeah Like what are the benefits of eating it? Is there any temporary loss? Because I don't see the point of that like if I just get nothing out of it by the sounds of it Yeah, if it doesn't taste like amazing then and no Like I don't see the point lose Yeah, so I'm just gonna say no. I think that's the sweeping correct answer Oh frick you found the fictional Darling video. Honestly. I'm a huge fan of all of your videos, but this one isn't I'm not looking forward to but I am She would probably appear if invited. Well, she is she's welcome to come on if she wants to Um, I'm sure she has better videos than the one we saw today I'm sure of it Anime recommendation goblin slayer a fantasy with mando style character done well with smart combat setups payoffs Gate scroll to bottom of the sea for high pressure water. It's 12 episodes and a movie Have you guys seen goblin slayer? Nope I'll wait for mando to be immune to damage again I mean they've done that so many times you think they might try and do something else We'll see I suppose Bring it in order for australia to win the next emu war you must live the rest of your life surrounded by water Do you accept? I don't know if like if the next emu war is happening. It seems like the Peace agreement has held for now. So, you know They follow up with saying, uh, I'm sure nutzer can spare some wine to help Potentially fill a moat with it. Is that the idea? I think a wine moat could be effective against emus um Yeah, they probably don't swim well They never really have to swim I guess They got no arms either so Well, then again, I guess fish don't have arms either. So Kind of a nonsense. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I think that's come up before. Yeah, I think you said that before I think that was a response either from rags or b. I can't remember It seems vaguely familiar um I always thought the guy who plays gandalf is the guy who plays dumbledore liam nison I Thoughts on talking new shadow sequel draft or how you do it I have no idea Vulcan new shadow sequel draft That sound like anything to you guys No Yeah, I don't know what that is. I'm sorry. Uh, I recently rewatched bligh Every rewatch seems to affect me more than the last any chance the bligh watch through is coming out Uh, no expectation of that anytime soon. I'll probably let you guys know when work begins on it So until then it is indefinite the amount of time I do want to make something from that eventually More like blandalorian. Ha ha got him. Nice Is coffee bean poop? Oh Then again, I don't drink coffee that much. So really fringies the one that's suffering if that's true And I don't think it is Yeah, I mean, I I think there's evidence against the idea that it's poop. So you should be okay I'm looking forward to the future where we get z-hulk as well as the transdalorian the search for the gender fluid It'll be great Mando season three trailer look good, but hard pass.   It was always crap like I feel bad for people who are like looking to sort of Because like we're very negative right about season three. Is it probably like, yeah, I'm with you. It's like Not quite if you if you go back to our older coverage, you'll be surprised you probably won't agree with us But don't worry about it We're you welcome to join us as we cover Mando season three as well But believe me, I mean you remember it as well as I do right for you We got huge pushback up until halfway through season two.  I'm pretty sure that like a Robin Hood movie is a guarantee. I think that's one of the ones they're working on So yeah I just got my first tattoo for my 23rd birthday. Hey I would ask what's it all but no need to tell hopefully it wasn't too painful and it's super meaningful Quick question.  I'm in a wheelchair. I can say it Uh I guess we'll find out uh in What like uh five days Yeah, maybe or should have sued Jane for copyright breach He should have Like while she's dying he serves her these papers and she's like really and he's like well I mean, you know, it was kind of rude what you did I got to protect my brand. Sorry Like my brand waits for no death or whatever Uh Thor should have sued Jane for copyright. Oh, so yeah don save the queen. He would do that. He probably would you Question for Fringy, but any of y'all can answer. How would you rank the likes of Ratatouille or up compared to Incredibles or Wally? Thanks Um, I mean I would put up at the bottom of that list of four like it was four of them Uh, usually Wally's at the top then Incredibles then it'd be Ratatouille and then yeah up Yeah, but I would say the most top three are quite close and up is not that close to those ones I would reflect that I would say that I just need to rewatch them all to be sure. Um you Thunder said Fringy was not too impressed with up. Um, I can't remember if we've talked about it I wasn't um a fan of up myself that much the opening I was impressed with but the rest of it was kind of like, huh? I don't like up either I don't just like It's definitely overrated.  I'm glad you're back. Also. Hi Mueller and man of the goo No, hi Uh, he missed everything. I don't know if that's talking about the video maker or she Hulk or someone else, but Uh, wings quarter the day. No, man.  That was just something I said because I was frustrated We've all been there Uh, tywin never changed yet. He's the best character He would absolutely be my favorite. And yeah, you're right. He doesn't change throughout all of the four seasons that he's in so That characters are definitely Where's the bonus quiet There was no bonus quote. I'm afraid. Uh, oh, okay. That's all right. It's all right Um, I want to shout out to greg Uh, flura flura. I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that right aka armored skeptic who recently All but nuked his channel. Everyone go watch his tell me more in history is a lie playlist. They are good rat Also, hi fringy.  Well, like am I properly hydrated? I drink a lot of water. Um, I Water bottles I go through them constantly. So I think I'm fairly well hydrated Yeah Or is I know, you know, I'm good to look after that though. Um, maybe they just meant alcohol-wise and I Yeah, no, I just You're fired on that regard too as for a armor skeptic. I didn't know he nuked his uh armor skeptic sort of stuff Hope he's doing all right Marty McFly does not have a character arc in the first back to the future movie yet. He's still an awesome character Yeah It's pretty common Is one of the things ifa tries to get people to unlearn because It is good Standard advice that your character your main character and whatever you're making has an arc people like it That's not an untrue statement. However It got chewed up and spat back out by a lot of people as once a if a character does not have an arc That's bad Which is not. Yeah, which is not true To the point of people being unable to recognize like the value of static characters or what is interesting about a character beyond their arcs and stuff Um Yeah, but examples like that are helpful in helping people that go. Oh, yeah, true. Right. Okay.  Yeah villains in general A lot of our action heroes are pretty static Yeah, it was Thanos's arc in Infinity War, huh? Oh, yeah I mean there's that too a lot of stories will have static characters that are important to contrast with the characters who do change And what if the point is that the character doesn't change? What if the point is that they're always right or what if the point is that they're tragic and that they don't change when they need to Plenty of reasons for a character not to change Yeah, James Bond doesn't typically arc at all. I think there are some films where it could be argued Oh, yeah, sometimes Bond has an arc, but a lot of the time these are pretty fixed Count making fun of past characters like Iron Man and Doctor Strange calling them selfish Hulk being a prankster and petty I wonder if they would have done these things Those past characters were women um, well like Ruining them in like posts and stuff. I mean they did it to black widow. So then again, I don't that wasn't on purpose. Yeah Whereas like making it so that Iron Man didn't have like a pension fund for the Avengers They chose to do that.  So This show should have covered legal minutiae in a world that has things like magic mind control and shape shift Is capable of framing people or what happens when black bolt accidentally commits murder Yeah, dude, it's a it is a feat to actually Pretend as though for a second like the amount of changes that would be made would be insane Uh the amount of the law you'd have to go through but they just want to play They just want to play around Pretty much A sorcerer supreme show exploring the effects of magic being revealed on the world would be way more interesting than the schlock They've been making Yeah If the police showed up to kamatage Uh with whatever notices that they need and warrants and stuff and then you know wong is actually dragged into like an interrogation Uh, and he entertains it but then tries to escape and he actually maybe does but you know The The implications that you I'm thinking in my head like this could be a very serious show. This wouldn't necessarily be a comedy at all We can't do that though in the mcu. There's got to be we've got to have them yucks and laughs And like god, you can set it up too, but they just don't care like imagine in multi-verse madness Let's pretend multi-verse madness happens exactly the way it does and that we thought it was a good film I know it's difficult but bear with me in the middle of the gargantoss fight when he defeats it He's like he wants to deal with america the police show up and they're like, uh, doctor strange Like we need to speak to you about the whatever this one He's just like Ignores them and goes through the portal You could do stuff like that a couple of times died throughout the movies and then you can have someone like cite all of them examples Be like you guys are fucking around too much. You know, I guess what I'm saying is I kind of like do civil war but We'll be the point They just ignore it anyway, so whatever Uh She-hulk is so bad in a meta sense that it got sitch to rise from the grave and make a video nice Also, you dumbo should play ddlc. It'll be neat Sitch has made a second video Sitch hasn't made a video for like 10 years and he's made two because of she-hulk He's very upset with she-hulk a lot of people are Uh, harvey birdman had more law in it than she-hulk Um, I am unfamiliar I feel sorry for wang in msu series to be fair wang hasn't been great in his recent outings and a lot of stuff not just uh she-hulk Adley Just sort of a new portal problem They can make perpetual energy one infinitely falling object could create infinite potential energy like metal rod passing through magnets could create electricity It is I I was gonna say earlier. I didn't want to get into how much it changes everything to have They can open portals the size of like You know a crane and and you can move things instantly to wherever you need Do you know how much that changes just everything? That's just insane But no, it's just a thing that allows wang to get into high security prisons and not get In trouble for that yeah That wang would just confess to a crime in front of a parole board and then just yeets himself He's like, yeah, see you later And he can come back in the next episode. That's fine. They acknowledged it and that's enough They very weirdly treated as though wang is just a dumbass alien from like a world where he like he just couldn't possibly know About any of this when it's like, oh, he's human by the way, right? I don't know if you knew that He lives in the world.  He existed in the world. He grew up there He knows about american culture like the wear of law He lives in america But like it's so odd that they they treat him as though he's from a different dimension and he's like, you know Book of laws. What are you talking about? I don't want And yeah, um places that are flooding Imagine you open a portal and then put the other portal into a place that has like drought And you just move the portal around so it's just, you know You're essentially watering a country with the water that's got too much in another country Which by the way could have drastic effects that i'm unaware of because i'm not Really enough with how water works in different blahblahs, but We needed addressed shortly, you know I can't believe there wouldn't be a huge amount of humanitarians aware of like this power And they're just like you're not using it to help anyone you selfish bastard Uh Watch 30 second video she Hulk deleted seen by crack back Perhaps I shall at some point If you want to make a funny lawyer show watch boston legal All right, pretty sure that they would have been likely inspired by that. Um, yeah That's why I thought that's where I thought the show was going to go It was going to be like boston legal with superheroes, but you know I'm maybe like A lot of things you can pull from like it doesn't need to be like law and order or something where you're trying to Play it like totally straight There is uh, there are there are options within that uh That framework, but It's it's barely like a legal show It's like pretending to be one Um, should have made a live action harvey birdman show also hi whiz rags he shall return don't you worry We don't need to make a live action harvey birdman. We got harvey birdman It is the show that it was the animated show Yeah guys don't wish for things like that No, it'll happen. It's uh, it's just yeah, like it's it does seem to be that attitude It's like ah, see you had like the little animated thing and that's whatever Uh, but but we're doing our live action one our live action one that is like less dynamic and interesting visually Then the animated one produced on a much smaller budget Huh No, no, no, no, no, she's dexter. She's actually triggering. Oh, I hope you survived I hope you made it through I work in logistics portals would absolutely change the world imagine instant teleportation of goods materials personnel at little real cost I think it's very cool.  It's a fun twin stick shooter Perhaps we will Apparently they got the guy who directed one division for the new Fantastic four movies. So that's disappointing also high-fringled Hey, it was going to be john watson people complained and then they realized like oh, wait a minute What if we get somebody who? Like what if we got somebody else And now look one division You get what you deserve. Hey the direction in one division was fine Oh sure, but again directors are ultimately responsible for like the narrative to to some extent So Yeah Hello everyone else since no rags. I just got here and I already can't stand this chick So here's some money for my two queens and kings. Keep it up. What is that? Thanks for the money Hulk when fighting abomination shatarian villains confident and determined hulk when confronted with jan backing up doing oan grady pose Who's oan grady? All right, then oh, it's it's the character from uh Jurassic world. Oh, right. Yeah I'm all right.  I think of that, baby Hmm anger and fear the baseline wait a women's sith is that why ray bugged out? Well, at least you get powers that's pretty neat James bond portrays portrayals ranked I guess they're asking to rank the james bonds Well for me it would be p.s. Brosnan shorn connery Then it gets murky because I need to rewatch the performances to know for sure but um Timothy Dalton and roger moore are gonna be tough to put one or the other because I wasn't as much of a fan of A goofier james bond, but I still like roger moors We'll probably put that next Then Timothy Dalton, then george laser being now i'm gonna figure where I put craig and all of that It's somewhere But the problem is I'm not as much of a fan of the fact that he hates playing the role and you could detect that in a lot of his scenes Uh Really how you playing the role?   Wow something like that um Uh, yeah, I'm not sure where I place craig exactly um I don't know. I I Bechter was miserable to watch. I hadn't seen spectre like at all And I watched it for the first time.  Yeah I I would have to think about it. I really don't know where to place in the something of Boris that video is great Um, but yeah, I don't know if any of you three have a different or Interesting take on bond if you want to do that or Well, I'm not really competent. I just have seen craig's movies, but I like casino royale though Everybody does overrated Yeah, that's a good one Everyone likes casino royale because it was good It's also a break it down. Uh, it was like really meaningfully made the other ones are like a mess I like vesper. Is that her name? She's a great character.  I didn't I really hyped myself up for skyfall because people really like like that one But I didn't get it Um, I liked it, uh, and I can't remember why I'd have to rewatch it. I think it might have appealed to me because uh I was growing up with a p.s. Brosnan era. So having That movie like represented the end of saying goodbye to m for like the older bondier as well and um almost the passing over and Re-establishing of like the I remember isn't it supposed to try and argue like it's binding the timelines in a sense um Or something it plays with the idea of doing that But I just remember kind of being disappointed but not like I dis disliked it. It was just not as good as I Thought it would be Um Even if bruce is understanding and agrees with her it's still bad writing that doesn't make sense in canon Yeah, it's really weird to appeal to being like a character in the writing you don't like is agreeing with the writing like Yeah, I know Of anything Um, if she gets cat called so much, why can't she get a date on matcha?  That's that's the unfortunate thing Somehow Dude, I don't even know what they were going for with that Like Anyone good-looking except for that one guy the the big buff one Yeah, and then he turns out to be like hyper masculine or whatever and she's like, oh no At that, uh, once she uses the she-hull persona, she meets like literally the most perfect person ever He's just like I uh, he says everything perfectly. It is perfect. It's just like What are you saying show? I don't know. It's interesting Um Why did he need an inhibitor in the show if he's always angry but in control?  They're gonna world war hulk probably Hell I'm three episodes into hot d and I haven't had a conversation about that show that hasn't devolved This is something along the lines of really brannis king or what do you mean? She forgot about the iron fleet It's haunting that show and it's gonna have to work really hard to escape the shadow of season 8 of game of thrones Maybe it can do it Jennifer waltz is such a bad lawyer even chris chan jumped out of a courthouse window to get away from here They cover bs arguments in coming. Yeah, there's a few Uh Respect and that's a re trauma survivors being the last to downplay someone else's troubles Many stories of people in therapy getting validated by those who survived way worse than they did Yeah, it's uh, I think that was a fair point to make and it's it felt really odd that she was defending She even highlighted that she felt it was a valid thing to think that bruce's Experiences were being downplayed by the episode and it's true. They were Not something that you would ever expect someone you do in uh jen's position um I'm sorry veteran that has ptsd and sore old friends die. I skinned my elbow so I can control my emotions better than you Hmm Lady looks like she ate a wasp or two Bloody hope not Bruce people build n-word towers in my chat Well, like that's what she complains about in my stream like Mola, please make it stop. It's like I'm wings of redemption and this is CU dex tuesday and her video our call of duty. Please. I beg you make it stop Hey What was her advice if you if you don't like it you can just not watch it, you know, that's the solution run away Be afraid and helpless and then you'll hulk out So it wasn't long sorcerer supreme flight five plus years before he broke blonsky out of prison in shang chi Like how was that required training to get a job he had for half a decade? I don't know I thought he was sorcerer supreme the second the strange wasn't But apparently he's only been sorcerer supreme for like a week or something. I don't even know I would have to check the timeline one that they definitely don't care about um Well, you might want to check the color on your screen that girl's glasses should have been rose colored Oh, I get it very good Ra we need your spicy form back for this one Jen punching bruce in the face. It's actually hard to watch. He's calm and trying to talk rationally And she hits him as hard as she can for speaking. It's horrible And it was left out of her analysis, which was interesting You'd think that would be considered one of the worst things she does in the whole episode, wouldn't you? Because um physical violence not cool, right? I think we're all on board of that Uh physical intelligence is a fantasy psychology term for athletic aptitude e.g. Great hand-eye coordination. It exists. She's still using it wrong I was about to say I don't think she meant that when she said that Yeah, I doubt it Um, uh-oh eFap's covering a female time to reset the days since last eFap spent xx hours covering a girl What a bunch of sexist tweet counter To be fair, I think we found out it doesn't work for anybody, but jenny that was the only person it worked for And I think it's just about how many people are already subscribed to her or any given creator we cover because uh Yeah, I don't think anybody's ever brought up that we've covered it anytime that those tweets happen They never bring up that we've covered other women. It's only just it's her. She was the one we weren't allowed to cover Very straight Nice of jay and nutzer to let the eFap boys on the show today. Yeah. Thank you.  Yeah, um, emile does punch like a lady at some point an incredible hulk, right? um Is that near the beginning I can't remember he does a couple of things that are really dodgy in terms of just like What who is this guy? But i'm assuming that uh as the season goes on We're gonna find out that he's uh, he's he's doing Yeah, yeah I'm so glad to see that rosemary kennedy has her own channel now Don't know who that is Fiona from shrack is the best green woman Yeah, I agree with that. Fiona was pretty cool But a lot of green women get um get jealous of how much she was beloved, you know, they're trying to steal his star power Toxic women often make suffering into competition See you could even make that a part of the uh of the show not toxic women just toxic people Yeah, you could have her have a friend Which by the way, I I maintain that her friend is a bad friend throughout this whole season. She's been a bad person Everything that the friend says I encourages her to indulge in the superficial and ignore like the meaningful things that she finds to be troublesome about her job He's yeah, like remember how she got a new job and she like jen tells her the only reason I got this job was because i'm hulk and she's like Yeah, but look at all the stuff it got us like wow Mm-hmm Uh e-fab every frame of patriarchy. Yeah Hello crazy cat lady e-fab appreciates the view Oh, wait, who's who's being called the crazy cat lady is the video in the video You have cats possibly Uh first super chat I've watched all of e-fab after finding you through jay's truss video I'm going to be in college. So I'll stop watching for a while. I wanted to show my support before leaving Well, thank you very much Uh have fun in college, I suppose What do you hate more storm breaker being jealous of mjolnir or wander's justification for killing america chavez being what if they get sick?   Uh, I look forward to the severed dong necklace art You know that now that they've said that someone's gonna be like, I'll draw it. It's like I mean I was thinking of a universal soldier at doff london in the ear necklace. I had a feeling Every woman online ever well this one time a crazy dude scared me and people were mean to me On the internet.  It's gonna be tough to erase that entirely from the internet real tough I smell serious Uh, I don't know what that is like a little emoji of a blue It doesn't tell me what it is.  Throwing the tv. I think I think that the Probably a sign needs a little added control.  Um, well, I can I can pass the idea to nude rotic and obviously the gliders if they're interested both of them Then perhaps we shall Especially for um, once the finale is I imagine I'll stream as well for that because that'll be People are gonna want to know what I thought once that show comes to an end Bringy look up tarantula hawks worse than spiders No, I'm not gonna do that. Why did they make that tarantula hawks god? What do you want to? He's like what I don't know man just He was a little bit scared It doesn't look exact I thought it was gonna be like a tarantula with wings It looks a little different than that, but still I don't I don't know why you needed to make that, you know Stop it Mubla I've been reminded you must fix your highlights playlist eventually and jenna says remind usually he's a fleam So bam, you're a fleam Bam. All right. That's that part's true. And yes, I do need to fix the highlights I will cut out some time to do that like a full day at some point. I swear Uh 2d anime girls are better than western women damn They'll never love you like western women will though those 2d anime girls The show could have been hilarious They could have done counseling with bruce at the end of each episode reviewing triggers for her temper meetings office Copia losing a court case something steals someone steals a parking spot and smash cut to bruce They could have done so much. You're absolutely correct. The format didn't have to be this nonsense You didn't even have to really make it about law even though she's a lawyer yet. That could have been later At first you could have just made it all about being a hulking maintaining her job Which could have been lower level, right?  The world is made of jello any comment ringing What the world can you settle one again? They're trying to correct you the saying it's jello. The world is made of jello I thought we settled this It's jelly jello is a brand There is jelly in jam We have trapped the poor americans on subjects like that so many times I'm starting to feel guilty like with the wallets or um or with the day month year thing or with the coins Our cultures are just so much better, you know But it's okay, we forgive you for being wrong Because we're kind Don't leave us with fringy. He's scaring the hose God Is there garden work being done? I don't understand If you're so anxious you have to calculate the distance between buildings to go for a walk you need counseling You shouldn't normalize that if fear and anger are your baseline seek help That I mean that's not even like Insensitive that's that's that is important if you have that level of concern and worry about like everything you do Everywhere you go. It's like you probably should talk to people about it professionals Might just help you out I once read about the symptoms of liver failure and one of them is the yellowing of the eyes fringy cared a way in Hmm.  I don't think she mentioned either of those words in this review I don't think she did no And uh, I have not yet been called an incel for disliking she hulk But I'm sure it's to be fair. It may have happened already without my knowledge. But hey, you know Um, is she threatening him? Afraid I don't know to which part you're referring to I think she meant the uh, would she uh Track that guy down for the comment on her channel. Oh Yeah, that was definitely a threat When she said like don't don't post stuff like that with your real name or this will happen.  All right Um Lollipop lollipop. Oh lolly lolly lolly lolly pop. That's kevin feige's brain apparently All right Well, I'm doing what this woman is suggesting and not watching she hulk However, as a fan of she hulk, I could see how she hulk fans might make the mistake of thinking they were the target audience Yeah, you could you could see that happening. Yes Uh, do you have wind ambience on stream wall or I can hear it through my headphones on high volume And it stops when I pause the stream Yes, there is wind ambience. That's legal legends. I'm I'm sorry about that. Hopefully it's not too bad to hear wind I'll get rid of it for a second I think that did it.  I'll give you zero points and may god have mercy on your soul Fair enough Uh, why does fringy say nog as often as he does Nog That's what it says. I don't know. Do you say nog a lot like like egg nog? Yeah I don't think so It's a strange one, but all right Uh goblin slayer falls apart after episode one just like mando.  Otherwise, I'm never gonna agree to this Also, sorry to hear that about goblin slayer, but uh, perhaps there will be an argument about that in chat. Who knows Well, why are you a plushie? Also? Why is fringy a bird who is neither a frog nor a plague doctor? Also? Why is j long bone baby Yoda, but blue? Is that You got your vaginas mixed up I think I am a plushie because there is a plushie available of me and fringy right now I think there might be a link in the description of this video unless I didn't do it Either way you can find it through makeshift and fringy or molla in in a little google search Here it is. Look on screen beautiful Just five days rebating to get a part of this This cute and cuddly little version of B And of course springy Yeah Yes We we got a lot of people saying like what we're gonna do again I missed out. It's like just just gonna let you guys know as as time picks lower and lower than uh They are still available thunder's been linking them in chat. Thank you very much Still still there ready to be grabbery noted if so do you wish to Um, I think we need a Lord of the Rings trilogy in which Frodo and Sam become miserable and jaded in the phrase somehow Sauron returned is uttered Yeah, let's do it All at the sequel trilogy To the Lord of the Rings but everything happens again For some reason new pitch for disney plus buber foot fetish All right Yeah, you can go why not I suppose go to chance The barabara fruit grants you the power to detach and reattach parts of your body at will rendering you immune to cutting damage But you can't swim okay Immune to cutting damage, but you can't swim Um, I man, I feel like swimming is gonna be more useful in general I just can't imagine how often like I just don't get cut that often, you know And and swimming is cool. I like I think I'll just avoid the fruit. I'm all right If I need to be able to be immune to being cut I might Uh, I often sit back and imagine what new content we could have had instead of all fandoms being destroyed by bad writing Yeah, yeah, it's uh, we're on we're on that timeline in the multiverse. I'm afraid I know there are better ones out there, but that's okay. Okay. We got some good stuff Is it fair to tell people if you don't like it don't watch it play it or consume it? Um You have to find out what their motivation is for watching in the first place For example, I've got many but one of them is that it's our job Not really like Fuck with that. It's just like, yeah, so but what else have I got? It's like, well, I was invested in this thing before it went to shit Uh, I'm still vaguely invested in some of the characters that remain I'm invested in the discussion that happens related to these things Uh, you know culturally I find it fun to talk with people about it whether or not I enjoy it Then there's the fact that I think it's really good as an avenue or vehicle to talk about writing in general With people whether or not I enjoy it So, you know When you tackle all of them and you just go, yeah, well if you don't enjoy it Don't watch it because like that doesn't deal with any of the things that I just said, so But if you have someone who says uh, uh, I simply want to enjoy a story and I choose the ones that I know I won't like Then yeah, you can point out that that's probably not wise They could have portaled an asteroid on Wanda's head They could have done a lot of things Yeah Any chance you guys will continue your discussion on what makes the story that you had during the anniversary I'd love to hear that debate when you guys are at full energy. Also Gotham high five when Uh, Gotham. Hi. I'm still working on that. It's almost finished the last part. Um, I just I have to get Oh god, I have to get these last two Uh, she hulk reactions out first and then after that I'm just gonna leave it to my editor to do the rest of the episodes and then I'm gonna get back to working on Uh, Gotham high part five And then I'm gonna release the full version after that we Uh, as for the discussion on what makes a story what you'll find is you'll just we'll keep that'll keep coming up every once in a while Uh, obviously me fringing rags are pretty much on the same Page on exactly what makes a story on what makes a good story But a lot of our guests will line up in terms of results, but not quite in terms of workings So we'll uh, we'll eventually have discussions here and then it'll just keep going because the idea that we will definitively and Most convincingly crack what is a story and what is a good story that is I doubt it, but uh Hopefully we can enjoy the conversations along the way with all different points of view and creators Exactly Um, I recently rewatched the really the Lego movie and it's a lot better than I remember Phil lord and chris miller as a creative duo are as creative a duo as they come I agree. I really like the lego movie. I was surprised by it Yeah, it's a it's a great movie.  Oh, yeah, you you don't expect and what seems like an ad for lego to uh to To um, you know beat like a story with a really meaningful message that ties in really well to what lego is about Mm-hmm Would you ever take commissions for script doctoring work i.e. read breakdown and recommend changes? Um, it's something that I thought about but it's just that I just do not have the time or a way to sort of Dole it out fairly in an inland balanced way. I would have to commit to that being a job probably Um, as opposed to the one I run now, which is my preferred job Thought about it, but probably not A skyfall did that stupid thing that every movie did after avengers where gasp the villain actually wanted to be captured I don't know if that's fair just because he did it similarly Time to when the joker did it who similarly time to when there was a third example I remember there was three that everybody. Oh Loki and avengers I'm pretty sure those are the three um It's okay. You can judge them all individually for how they did it and whether or not it was believable and stuff I don't think we should we should be careful shitting on something like that Too hard when it's like it because you know for all we know they wrote those things individually of each other They had no idea the others were doing it But just it just feels a little bit unfair but um I'm pretty sure skyfall's execution is something you can just shit on really Uh obscure general of the day pseudonius Paulinus illness Why you why what? Like what would you want to do with the general of the day? What what do I Uh See he was he was a roman general best known as the commander who defeated the rebellion of buddhika Little is known of his family, but it came likely came from pisarum a town in Adriatic coast of italy. He's not known to be related to the biographers pseudonius Okay I hope he's a cool dude Um j long bone covers fictional darling then efab covers fictional darling I finally rest and watch the sunrise of a grateful universe. Thanks so much for covering her. She needed to be stopped Too bad rags missed out. You're welcome Hope you cover her again one day. Maybe we will who knows and yeah, it was uh, I would say Day long bones coverage is probably what primarily inspired me to think you know what I'd like to talk about this stuff on the olfap And uh, yeah, right rags did miss out on this one. I'm sure he regrets that hugely. He would have loved to have watched that video 100% Um Two full fems plus two half fems.  Yeah Yeah Don't worry. There's less and less people defending that movie as time goes on which is next As a colonial heathen we apologize for the boston tea party. We should have pre boiled the ocean before adding the tea bad form True. That's how you bank the best tea Mola why are your eyes still red? Uh bloodshaw I think Also, why is nuts a blue? I don't know either Also if fringy is green and nuts are is blue. Are they safe to say the n word? I don't know. I don't know how the rules were Check the list Uh thoughts on dc 52 series animated movies love the e-fab and watching since episode 72 cool Uh glad to have seen any of those movies I don't know if I've seen any of them. I don't even know what dc 52 refers to exactly Uh, the new 52 was like the reboot continuity back in 2011 for DC it's like the first big reboot of that continuity and I think it's over already Like they changed their mind That was what flashpoint did flashpoint was like set up new 52 as the continuity And then I think they did rebirth because they changed their minds on it Oh, yeah, I wouldn't be able to say I don't know Um But I just saw top gun maverick again And I think it's really good other than bad sam placements. I can't think of much wrong with it fight me fringy Oh my oh I mean, I think I've said I'm I'm just not a fan of that third act Well, I really liked I I still liked the movie a lot and I was enjoying it a lot up until that point I just think the third act kind of lets it down I still haven't seen it though I should probably I mean it's available now on uh on non-cinema. I think it's available.  Why is this bigotry excused? I would like I would have said I I always opted to prefer To appeal to bad human nature or good human nature. I make lessons about that instead of any particular grouping unless of course it's like you know groupings that are like Really bad organizations, of course. I don't mean like all groupings of all kinds Uh, sorry if that seems like a non sequitur behind in the stream by four hours and got to the part where shulk says women live in fear of men Yeah, um, as we were saying that that line and the the comparison line They were they were causing her a lot of trouble for trying to break this down in like a fairer understanding way In a weird way, I have to think bank rings of rings of power made me go on a Lord of the Rings binge Phil Dragash's audiobook is superb. I highly recommend it I'm not even 100 clear on what that is. Uh, but Is that like an audiobook for the Lord of the Rings books? I'm guessing um, it's typically her reddit Uh, yeah, I because I was gonna say I think there's a whole bunch of different people you can get for the audiobook for Lord of the Rings, right? It would make sense because it's like one of the most famous books of all time. So Um, that'll be interesting to know. What is the most audiobooked book ever Maybe the bible It'd probably be the bible, right? Yeah Well in any case that is it for super chats. We are caught up Oh boy, obviously not in total, but we're gonna wait until rags is back before we tackle any more of the backlog Um, but before we head out, I would have to give a huge thanks to our two guests today of which The first is Jay Longbone and would you like to tell everybody why they are horrible people if they haven't subscribed to you already? Well, uh Oh, well, I got some more of course, uh, she-hulk reactions coming out. I'm doing episode two and three at once So it's taken a little longer to come out, but I think it might be out this week Like or maybe early this week And then there's like I said the final installation of Gotham High. That's gonna be out soon because it's basically finished Uh, and then I'm gonna come out with like the full version after that the whole hour and 20 minutes. I think You know and I got other stuff too, but it's mostly that for right now Wait, um, I was gonna say we often get people being like when are they gonna make more of the You know the the the the Gotham High stuff, but I'm just like Do it in time Don't want to rush. They control nothing These males control nothing. I control the Gotham High Unbelievable ridiculous Um, also, I just saw someone in a chat, uh, say missed my super chat. I just checked your name You're the one who asked is it fair to tell people if you don't like it watch it play a consumer We went through that one. Um I was gonna say I would try and repeat what we said, but I'm gonna be honest with you There was a lot of things just you have to scroll back. I'm afraid but yes, uh You should subscribe to Jay Longbone's channel If not for her own content You'll find that myself rags and metal pop up there every once in a while Are you doing on the um the porn that we watched? Whatever you want to call that All right, that has been recorded in catalog and it's waiting for me to edit And I'll get to that after you got the highest finish. Are you planning on forcing mean rags to watch the new one that came out? Shit probably Maybe complete the series Well, I was gonna say as well. It'll be fun for you to know I think I already told you this but uh, it'll be october 1st It'll be the start of we're releasing the arc that we recorded last year if you remember Those are fun little horror movies. They're finally coming out Fun to see yeah Um, well, yeah, it's sweet. There's a link in description. Subscrizzle the other guest we had today Nutsa returning since if I've won I want to say 98 97 who's one of those ones, but um Yeah, hey, how are you? How are you doing and why should people subscribe to your channel? well Doing fine and Because I'm a woman. I don't know what that was going to do Anyway, yeah, I don't know All right Yeah, I'm tired lots of media analysis breakdowns fun editing coverage of all kinds of topics Yeah, I could have I could literally have not seen the your channel page and said that and probably have been right because that's a lot a lot of people do but That's a special because We have covered you and as was pointed out chat a lot of fun and sprucey editing Exciting edgy content opinions that you don't expect to find from any places may not link also in description Uh Yeah, of course. Thank you both for for joining us Briny was there anything you wanted to mention? Uh, no right now. I'm just still working I'll have something soon Uh A couple more have come in. I'll just read them real fast. Which would you rather have doctor stranger sling ring or mr Fantastic's personal teleportation device. Oh sling ring easily I don't trust devices that Turn me into like weird stuff and then push me into the place Right whereas a portal. Yeah, you don't have to worry about your continuity of consciousness Yeah, portal's nice and clean and just walk through done done done Uh If you had to pick just a few what floors would you cite in lord the rings trilogy? We used to I used to know these better. I need to rewatch them. There's a couple of just Normalish ones that I usually mention But now I'm like We can failing to remember them um You know what watch watch the there's an efab movies trilogy Of of us going through them and I'm pretty sure me wolf and rags talk a little bit about some of the floors we come across uh Here and there as we go through We obviously consider it a flaw that gimley wanted to kill froto and sam. That was terrible. That was though. It shouldn't have been in the movie Don't panic anybody who doesn't understand that's a meme, but yes, there's uh, there's lots of things I think that do Uh perk up here and there that we Have issues with I think I just I would have to rewatch them to get to Uh citing them better But like I said until then you could probably enjoy the efab movies trilogy on them And with that I will say is the end of the stream. Thank you so much for joining us Hope you guys all have a good night. Thank the kind messages the company and the Very kind donations me and fringy shall return with rags at some point Exactly when I'm not a hundred percent sure something will happen on wednesday um And we'll be trying to get caught up on super chats, uh offline and online. I think so Yeah, thank you all for joining us. I suppose we shall see you next time Good night. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye