Yeah, I think I think we're finally live tell Mario, aren't we I think I think we might be I see us a little live thing in the corner Hello, everybody Welcome to another fantastic this week in cloud native technical difficulties are the reason for our lateness in this current predicament In this climate you think we'd have distilled in after COVID Thanks for joining everybody. Hopefully things are running smoothly. Please comment and respond We are getting those in the live chat right now. So we thank you for for waiting for us This is exciting. I had to miss one of the last sessions But I'm so happy to be back on air and hosting this week in cloud native and there's so much going on behind the scenes right now I can't really talk about it. We have so many exciting things coming down the pipe when it comes to a content from Cloud native television or whatever we plan to call it And so I'm really happy to be here and really happy to be part of this team Today we are talking about a special topic that I know nothing about so I am going to be The person asking the dumb questions the person hoping that they don't sound too naive and stupid and bill here who is My my confidant in the CNCF who I've been working with to make this all happen and who is leading the future of what? cloud native TV looks like Is going to enlighten me as to what Kubernetes community days are and I'm really interested because I have myself formed a meetup In my my locale that is has gotten decent decently Bay at least before COVID Where we've done a lot of great things and brought a lot of people together I think and connected human beings on a different level and so I'm really excited about this discussion today to learn more And so with that without further ado. Here's bill Bill Mulligan, and I'll let him introduce himself and talk a little bit more about what he does Yeah, thanks Mario for that introduction, and I'm super excited to be here chatting with you today about Kubernetes community days, too Before we get started, I guess if anybody has any questions like we're gonna build a Kubernetes community day today and You all in live stream are Like part of the audience too So if you have any questions, please feel free to drop them in the chat like Mario and I will be monitoring it We'd love to have your comments or questions, and we'll like try to answer them as we go along So if you're trying to plan a Kubernetes community day, this is the perfect stream for you And we'd love to get your questions answered as we go along So yeah, I guess without further ado Let's just like dive right in so for people that aren't familiar with Kubernetes community days I think a lot of people are familiar with kubecon and cloud native con which is coming up the one in Europe is May 4th the 7th, and you can register at the link below But say you can't make it there or you want to do like Mario and be a community organizer bring people together In your local community like how can you do that one is for a meetup? But say kubecon isn't coming to your home down tomorrow like Mario where we're exactly are you from? I'm in Ann Arbor, Michigan in the United States Yeah, so I mean like I'm from Wisconsin, so we don't really like Michigan. So since I'm at CNCF. I probably won't be advocating for Know that I did not know you were in Wisconsin this whole time Badger Wolverine Yeah, maybe this is a little thing in our friendship now, but So okay, it's okay. No, I think I agree I think there's like areas where like a cube con or other events are not going to come to you And it's it's really on you to create these events and that's why I think Kubernetes community days and all the other you know cloud native kitchen and all these other pieces are like Other ways that you can get people in your locale excited that didn't know that you don't know that these people right these There's a ton of people I knew people I met in my space when I started my meetup and started meeting people and that Starts to cascade. I think it's great that we're doing this sort of thing. So please continue Bill go ahead Yeah, definitely So if you want to as I was saying be a community organizer like Mario and help create something kind of like let's say like a mini cube con This is exactly what we created Kubernetes community days for it's for self-service community events that really emphasize local flair So if you want to you know talk about the big house and like throwing some like Wolverine flair Like that's totally fine because it's to your local flair and that's up for you to do And if you if you want to talk about badgers and cheese curds because you're in Madison, Wisconsin You can also do that too And in Berlin, we're just partying so there won't be a Kubernetes community day there. That's not true There will be one, but that's the local flair Yeah So I guess Mario so like where should we plan our Kubernetes community day like if you plan one entity anywhere in the world Boston Boston, Massachusetts Big city, but it doesn't feel quite like that. It's one of my favorite places There's a lot of history there I think there's a lot of people there and I think we did have a cube kind of in Boston So maybe it's not the best location But I think it'd be unique to say okay. Well, there's this big city that I live in There's probably maybe things there and maybe there isn't right and and so let's let's let's just use that as a Or Wisconsin, I mean we could do Madison or Stevens Point or Some other place there aren't many people up to you. Sure. Let's let's do Madison So I guess like the first thing that we're gonna do is go and like check out the Like Kubernetes or like the Kubernetes community homepage and what can we actually find on the website? So I guess if we kind of jump over here, we can see some like cool graphics like people at conferences If we go to your screen. Oh man Thank you So yeah, I guess we go to the homepage right now Kubernetes community day org and scroll down We can see there's a couple of ones upcoming and there's like this Livestream I can see that there's one being planned in Bangalore. The CFP is open for that right now There's also one in Africa. Well, this is super exciting. You know, it's like a worldwide program right now Really cool graphic. I love like the like flavor and like flair of that These who is doing these graphics because we need them because these are like they're better than monograms and Other crappy ideas that I have they're really good And this is like this all comes culminates like the user experience and the presentation is really important Tell people understand like this is a serious thing as well I think there's so many events that people are just a moment barred with nowadays and Especially with some of these being online now in virtual there really has to be some sort of draw So, yeah, I really appreciate the effort people are putting into these absolutely Yeah, and actually I just saw like the tweet here Like the Kubernetes communities I'm actually going to jump over to that and see what I can find there so let me take off my screen share and And switch to the other tab Let's actually dive into like the first blog post and so here we are at cncf.io We can see the blog post and okay, we're excited announce that we're reopening applications for Kubernetes community days So that wait, you're hold on your your share must have canceled or something. What is going on? Come on bill. It's a Wisconsin internet or something. I just I think they just they don't know There's cheese curds they get caught up in the wires or something. I don't understand Yeah, some cheese curds in the wire Zoom your screen a little bit as well. Um, just to make sure I'm seeing this right. Yeah, I think that looks a lot better. Thank you Um, go ahead. Thanks. And so I read through I think there's two kind of like exciting like main points here The first one we can see is going virtual like it was in person events only before so mario kind of what you're doing with your Meetup, but now we're going to have uh input or virtual events too. So that's pretty cool So obviously with covet right now. We can't do everything in person or you know If you're organizing one across the whole of africanites Maybe a little bit difficult to bring everyone all together so you can organize a virtual one and it provides a lot more accessibility to a lot of people Um, but uh, hopefully in the future, you know, we can go meet each other again And we're also going to have hybrid and in-person events too and the second part is the cloud native community groups So mario as like a meetup organizer has you have you switched over to cloud native community groups? We are in the process right now And I think covet kind of stopped that because we actually stopped we had some meet-ups But then we decided it wasn't really worth it for the time period people were getting zoom fatigue and all of that And so we decided to stop and so we're on indefinite hiatus right now But I think as we move forward when we get back into uh in-person meet-ups That's one of the first things that we want to do is make sure we're tapped into the the proper cloud native system So that other people can find us through the cncf and other other means other threads things like that Um, I do want to there's a question that's uh kind of interesting here What kind of criteria do you take into consideration when you decide the size of the event? What are your thoughts that are built because maybe you don't know what the size will be when you go into this And do you set a max do you say like let's guess 15 people or let's guess 50 people or you know, what does that look like Yeah, so I think kind of uh, so thank you, uh, one Pablo. Um Oops, oh wait. No, they're wrong one question. Yeah struggling today Um, so we really encourage people to start small and like have a really solid event and grow from there And so I think probably like for your first event you should think of somewhere probably like maybe like 100 to 200 people Um, and I think the key thing is like, you know, really see this as like a long-term sustainable thing And if people have a really good experience one year, they're going to want to come back to the next year And so really see this as a way to like build your local community and build connections with the people around you You know, that's what we all are as humans. We like to you know connect and communicate with one another And so I think if we take it like a long-term sustainable thing don't gonna don't go out and say like the first year I'm gonna have a thousand people show up and it's going to be this massive thing Well, it's really amazing if you pull it off. It might be a lot of stress So I really encourage people to you know, kind of start small and then really grow Make sure you have a really successful and sustainable way to do that and then grow the program from there Hi, I want to reiterate that is super great advice I think everyone tries to say like we're going to do this 150 person thing to start And as you grow I'd say every time you add 50 people even 25 people The dynamic changes in the amount of work just keeps going up exponentially As an organizer, right? So do not tear yourself out especially for the first time around get a feel for what What is going on what people want and and don't just yell like oh, we have kubernetes and you know You know, it's kind of a hot button word right now But like also there's got to be a level of human connection, right? You've got to feel like they're coming and it's a full scale event in terms of there are other people to meet There are things that I will get there's value I will get from certain presentations or networking with other people or maybe there's even you know, the food sounds really exciting or there's prizes or You know, there's caricatures or whatever it might be like in an in-person realm Like make sure that people feel like they are spending their time wisely by coming to this This event and they they feel like they'll actually get something out of it Yeah, definitely and mario when you first launched your Meetup like how many people was there and how many people are there now? Yeah, that's a really good question um, I think the first one and I remember freaking out about everyone having enough space and Cares and with the tv work and I need an hdmi cable and like it was the worst thing ever But i'm so glad I did I gave the first presentation right because I mean i'm just starting this thing from scratch I think we had Almost 15 people maybe 12 or 13 people But what's unique is somehow Most of you know mr. Bobby tables bob killin who's massive in the kubernetes community. Most of you know jeffree sika Who's huge who's who's done amazing things as well? in the community Whether release team or any other piece of the puzzle Of course, most of us know george castrow as well who heptio vm where I mean in terms of community. He is the guy Those people I met through my meetup I actually connected those people and I think the big thing and I don't I don't want to trail on too long, but It's all about taking it slow and nothing was perfect. The pizza was like tasted like cardboard like But I think everyone figured out where to sit or stand they figured out how to get there They figured out where to park right like don't worry about those little problems Worry about making it when they get there when they walk in They they they are able to interact with people and there's there aren't you know guardrails Amongst communication, right? I think that was really important. So Yeah, so it sounds like you know, this kind of like local aspect has been important really important for you for kind of Growing and building in the cloud native community And it was kind of like your first four in and sounds like you had a great experience too and so meetups are one ways and communities communities are another way to do that too And also there's a comment from pop to Brendan the sticker man Mario, do you do you know this? I don't know what's going on right now. I think dan is just trolling because he can um Dan, how does my uh dan literally gave me feedback last time he said hey listen It's like like heart to heart your video like I'm seeing up your nose right now And you need to fix it and so I fixed it and I hope this looks good So dan tell me constructive criticism is really important and hopefully no one can see up my nose. That's that's pretty gross But but I'm really like I'm happy that that dan is here for those that don't know dan pop The dan pop podcast. I listened to it this morning Just just check it out dan is another one and you'll you'll meet more of dan I think it was in one of the last episodes that I was hosting You know, there are so many people that make this happen and I we we are trying to call out all of them I'll shut up now bill continue. Let's let's get this community day planned out Yeah, sir. It really does start at your local community. Um, so going back to our announcement here I can see that there's already one's planned for africa and uh, vangalore. So we're already across two continents Um, I think we'll probably get to six, you know, like possibly seven if mario will You know kind of buck up and put one on Antarctica, but we'll see It's so bold. It's so cool I can I can see that the cfps are both currently open. Um, and I can also sponsor that so there's I guess there's like multiple ways for me to get involved Um, so actually maybe maybe we start a little bit smaller and check out like the cfp page first So yeah, I was gonna say I'm actually on the organizing page and I don't know if that's exactly where you are But there's a getting started checklist here bill. Would you like is this checklist been like relatively well thought out or would you? recommend like other ways of figuring this out Yeah, definitely. Um, so maybe we go there first. So I need to Stop sharing that one. Let's see if I can do it right this time We're on the organizing page. I gotta share this other screen and like add it to the screen Like eventually this whole technology thing comes together Nah, it's gonna be like 2041 before that happens. So Okay, so Mario as you were saying like I think this isn't this as actually is kind of like built on a lot of experience, I think we especially like to thank the people who put a lot of work and effort into dev ops days and all those open stack days for providing a lot of the Like, you know core ideas the frameworks the templates of how to run a six successful community event So this is actually built on years of experience and there is a lot of great people who set up and Like organize this. So I think it's a pretty thorough checklist if you want to run a kcd like how to do it Absolutely Yeah, it's on the I was just gonna say so a you're not sharing your screen if you were meaning to and b we have another question from e Thank you. Uh What do you think about having the audience and physical but the talk From remote so that's kind of my other question too is like if there was like a hybrid approach Like what like is there a standard that you should be following to to have a successful You know community day that cnc f really would prefer or is it kind of what works for you and your locale? Yeah, I think I think there's kind of multiple ways to look at it Like one of it is definitely like what works best for you and your locale Like one of the things about uh, I'm working quite closely with the organizers of kcd africa And the biggest problem there is it's really difficult actually to travel between all the different countries And so bringing people all together is super hard. So that's actually why they want to do a virtual event In the first place But I think like the biggest aspect about kcds is this interaction, you know connecting with one another Unlike the human level and so I think if you want to have the audience is physical But the talk comes from somewhere remote I'd say if that increases accessibility helps us grow the community helps us, you know Provide more avenues for people to get involved and access one another. I think that's great It's just making sure that you have a way for the audience to interact with the speaker and the speaker to interact with the audience Because I think that's really the key part about these like kcd events And we'll really set like your part of event apart, you know Because there's always a question like oh, I could go watch a video on youtube But why is it more important for me to go to this kcd? And I think well people will go to your event for is to really have this in person this like, you know Like really visceral like connection to other people. I think that's kind of what we're all missing the pandemic right now Yeah, I absolutely agree. I couldn't have put it better myself It's all about, you know, I hate the idea that the video is going to upload it to youtube Like a couple days after because then it erodes the the fact that I was maybe there that I put the effort into go to the event Um, because I can just watch all the content But the the thing is people do not go to conferences for the content They go to conferences for the networking the human interaction Meeting other groups meeting other people seeing their favorite George Castro Saw a bungee employee at the cube con san diego and him and myself and others are huge destiny fans And we literally like he was giddy with excitement. I will tell you that it was super fun Like it is about the the networking More so than anything else and the free foods actually pretty good.  Um, I love on the on the top here on the page you're at actually toward the top there Um, it talks about, you know, we'd like to think devops days and open stack days Who are some of the core ideas and content for this? document I was actually a co-organizer for devops days detroit, uh, which was really really cool But I think that's a good model because that's a good way for it to help me understand kubernetes communities as There is a kind of maybe central focus Central set of ideas and standards of what we want this to be in the representation side And then each locale can mold that for what they're trying to do and really in the u.s It's kind of like apple bees if you will like if they have a core menu, uh, and a core look, um, but Some of the elements of your dining experience are tuned based on the locale Maybe there's a little bit more locale focus But I really like that model because it helps you get further than just starting something completely from scratch And it gives you a lot of um support. I think is a big part of this too. So all right So what is this next question from um for breed to? Tools that help virtual user interactions. Go ahead bill. Yeah, definitely. Um, so we do provide the cloud native Community groups platform and we'll hopefully like get to that platform at the end So we can kind of see like what kind of tools we actually do have for helping Uh, virtual user interactions. So yes, definitely want to get to that question. There is um way to do it and we also have a question from Meg Magnolo Meg no, where can I check if there's a kcd going on my city or if I can organize one? Uh, yeah, so let me just switch my screen really quick um to the actual community days repo so Let's see, right? So you're not thinking anymore I know 10th times the charm like I I really will get it this time Let's see three two one There it is. There it is every time you say you're switching your screen. I get a little bit nervous. Uh, and then All right, yeah All right, so we got a couple different things here. Um, so we can see there's a couple issues opens This is a kubernetes community days repo In github. So there's two sections where people can open them is either in the discussion sections where we don't have any yet Um, if they're still trying to find their team or do other things like that The other one is under like this issues section And so we can actually see you have the issues open right now for pangluru africa, washington dc and brazil, um, so if you don't see your city here Um, definitely consider opening up an issue or discussion to help like bring people together actually just had to go through and like close a ton of issues um because They this is all the people um that wanted to do stuff before and so there's a ton of people that were doing things Uh that wanted to organize One's before but this is you know back kind of like pre-pandemic So if you're thinking about organizing one, it also suggests to go through like the closed issue twos And see if there is a team that was already kind of coming together into your city So let's see we have otawa. Uh, I saw there was one for japan, tunisia, manchester Poon, uh, portland, napels, brazil, austin You know, there's munich like lots of ones around the world and so Um, if you're interested potentially there is one already being planned right now, uh, or like previously back in like 2020 pre-pandemic, um And maybe reach out to that team or if there's one yet, uh, create a discussion or create an issue Um, and then there's a couple of questions in the chat Uh, will there be an event in Dubai UAE from arun? Uh, so there isn't one right now and there isn't What there wasn't one being planned before but if arun if you're interested in doing that Like I really encourage you to think about like joining a team Um, or like putting a team together And if you want I can totally happy to help you out Like finding other people too because I I know there's definitely a lot of interest in the Middle East for cloud native tech too, and then we also have a question from Matt Jarvis So given that these are going to be virtual events. Are you recommending community groups in the new region to collaborate on events? Yeah, so this is a great question. Um, so I guess the first part is like There'll be virtual events for now, but we don't see them as being virtual events forever We really want to see people get back in person. You know as mario was saying at the beginning That's where he met like a kind of a lot of great like cloud native people along the way. Um, so In terms of recommending community groups within a region to collaborate on events We're actually already seeing this right now. Um, so you can see like kcd africa is obviously like a whole continent And they kind of see that as jumping off point to start kind of like more local groups We saw the one for brazil uh before there was I think like four or five in different cities around brazil You know, there's kind of going to kind of be one overarching one For brazil and actually one of our co-host paulo Who switches off with mario is going to be kind of involved in pushing that forwards And I know he's super excited about building cloud native. Um Paolo is Literally, I think my spirit animal really cool guy and he is going to make a lot happen for uh, the people of brazil when it comes to Tapping into cloud native and uh, kubernetes. Um, I just wanted to mention eave just came with a really interesting comment to me Uh, we were trying to avoid collision with other big uh big cloud events Oh, we realized google cloud next and cube kind of earth america is the same date. Okay This isn't even a negative though like in the virtual realm at least Like y'all should still get an event going because in during that event Everyone can then just gawk about all the announcements at qcon. What's going on their favorite stuff? You get a big screens monitors showing certain talks certain tracks Like I think a lot of it depends on like if you're doing something local if you are doing it in person In some way and there is an event going on that is the core of what you your event is right? This is kubernetes. This is cloud native. Like this is what people are discussing. Anyway, uh, there's no problem with that Or move it just to just right after when everything is fresh Everyone's still got all these ideas. They're talking about it They're interested like that was some of the best meetups that we ever had or meetups that would just happen after Uh, aws reinvent a cube con or any number of of events that happen So don't use that as a to turn as much find it find the opportunity in that Yeah, definitely and you know, there's always a ton of things happening So you can try to always pick the perfect date like we thought we did with cube con and then all of a sudden Google con nexus is right on top and sometimes there's not anything you can do about that But I obviously would encourage you not to schedule as the same time as cube con because that might not be the most Successful community event then because most of your community might be wanting to go to cube con um Yeah, and I guess just to go back to like math's question really quick. Um, like yeah, definitely When you're talking about like region, I know like, uh, the cloud native nordics is like interested like putting together like one as a region So like definitely if you like you can totally consider doing one like as a region Especially as things are virtual and there's like a wider net. It's easier to pull from like a wider net too so Yeah, um So here we are in the issues and I guess maybe like the next step on like kind of getting started is like finding out Okay, so we have some like issues like how do we if I want to like jump in How do I do that and what do I actually need to set up a kubernetes community day? So if I go to this new issues here, I can either submit a bug Well, it's not what we're doing today or organizing an event and this is actually what we're gonna start out doing today So if we jump in here, so what do we say kcd madison? sconson 2021 So first one is okay, please fill in information organizers as you sponsor them make new comments when it's ready to review so location madison sconson usa event date, um, let's go Yeah, let's go Uh, may is kube con so maybe not the best time. What do you think mario like july like like fourth of july like really great time That's a terrible time, but sure I don't know people that don't know that's the independence day for america, which is where we're at So maybe not let's roll with it. Whatever. Okay. Um, so the event type Obviously, so this is july 4th, you know, they're rolling out the vaccines, but i'm going to go virtual if i'm not You know it never can be too sure now we're like jumping into the submission checklist and so We can look at kind of the the things that we have to do here. So know that community Kcd is happening at an event in the same region. Um, like obviously like this is going back to math question Like make sure that like you kind of work. We want people to work together as a region We don't want to have like competing communities, you know, I think in cloud native We really see it as a really collaborative place. So making sure that you organize with other People in your region too I mean about three organizers from three different Organizations, I think this is similar to a lot of how our projects are governed in cloud native Where we want to see you know people from a lot of different organizations collaborating together So this isn't seen kind of as driven by one company Um, every organizer has an account on the slack just that you know, like me is trying to help like organize this I can get in contact with you and we can get in contact with you with you, um, it's just uh, you know, he's on the logistics and stuff Uh, each organizer lives in or just outside the kc location Like I think this one's about you know, it's it's it's meant to be the local community We don't want to have you know, kind of like the the team from germany organizing Events all across the u.s. Because I think we'd miss a little bit out I'm like the local flare there too. And so making sure that it really is like a local event Um, at least one organizer is a cncf member ambassador or project maintainer member employee Um cncf membership is so large now I think this is probably a pretty low hurdle to cross or if you are looking for And there we have member companies all around the world ambassadors all around the world So if you're not sure how to do it, please feel free to reach out to me. Um, I have a question. No bill. All right. So I very much understand why we have some of these guardrails in place Like these are important and for those that are that are watching like we want this event to be diverse We want it to be well supported. We want to help make it happen And these things don't think of them as guardrails think of them as vessels for making the event even better But I I do think this looks like, you know, any other Let's say job description for an application that you're trying to put on where you're like, oh, I mean those five bullet points But those last two. Hmm. I don't I don't know any of that at all Does this mean if you don't fit all these perfectly that you cannot put an event on I'm guessing the answer is no What what's the cncf's take on this bill? No, definitely not like this isn't I think you nailed it exactly morrow Like this is kind of like the framework, but we want to work with you You know, this isn't we want to be helpful for the community And that's my role is to like help make your events successful Help make the community successful. And so if you need help on any of these bullet points I'm super happy to help out At any point along the process you can either reach out to me At my twitter handle, which is on the screen. I'm also available on cncf slack Just bill mulligan also like just email me be mulligan at linuxfoundation.org like super happy to chat with anyone If they're interested, okay, where did breakaway billy come from breakaway So unique, how do you even is that like a high school name for you because now i'm really interested in your past Yeah, um, so I actually used to be a bike racer. Um, so In bike races, there's like the main group which is called the peloton and then if like some people can like break away There's like a breakaway and My style of racing was either off the front or out the back So I was either in the breakaway is breakaway billy or i'd get caught and then i'd pretty much implode and then go straight Out the back wait, hold on is is a peloton where the name of the company is that like where they got the name from? I didn't even know that. Okay. Let's move on apparently. I didn't go through High school college at all That's really cool. Okay. Awesome. Well with that, I think like a lot of this makes a lot of sense as well You know, it looks like a lot of things to check off But I think at the end of the day getting these things done up front knowing about them is better than hidden things That you didn't know about that you have to worry about later on as well Yeah, definitely Code of contact. I know like cncf is super welcoming. Um, and this is we want to ensure we have like a safe community safe events Three sponsors once again, they can sure we have like kind of sustainability around the event Uh, a fiscal sponsor that can accept payments I'm in kind of like the end of that so you can do kind of self-serve process You know One really important tenant of cloud native is really the diversity power resiliency of the whole ecosystem. And so being able to offer tickets to uh, like underrepresented groups um using cloud native community groups using s and apply for the cfp You've chosen the event date and time. Um, so obviously kind of like all this doesn't have to be filled out Like right when you're submitting this you so say it's like mario and I are doing one in madison Like the only thing we have right now is that no other ones are scheduled Uh in in the region region for right now. I'm going to say um the organizer one is mario You're what's your company again? karta We're hiring by the way. Let me know if you're interested. Yeah, just karta. Um, and then what else do you need title? Um I don't know professional. Yeah Professional archaeology infrastructure archaeologists. I don't know. Um, uh, and then you know email is just uh at cooldude at msn.com And the rest of this is not really important. Um, it's just mario is my username in most places Yeah And then I can do the same for myself. So it's like bill. Oops Uh I work at cncf. I'm not I'm not quite sure what I do That's okay I don't Matter a little bit.  Let's say cncf is in Like mario's company is also really cool. So karta is going to be doing it too. We're looking for some other sponsors now I can submit this issue Okay, so now we have our issue we can see one of our things are checked off Oh mario is also an ambassador so we can check that one off too Um And I guess we have at our event date and time chosen and so right so this is kind of like the checklist to um Kind of as we go through and as we're organizing the event Um, we can see like our progress against kind of all of these And then this will be actually on our project board. Uh, so we're going here into Event formation I can see like different ones here. So kcd brazil is looking for organizers and sponsors um and Bangalore and african and execution and there's a whole bunch of closed ones right now and so that's kind of like the interaction on github with kcds and Yeah, I love this by the way. I love how we're using github to manage this You'll see a lot of a lot of this happening with a lot of different um projects out there I actually did this with my own meetup where we had a issue that tracked the planning and Discussion around getting a workshop a summer workshop plan And so we had bullet points for all the pieces they those those were assigned to people as well So if you have multiple organizers, you could also assign If one organizer needs to complete something, you know, you could do like you could do a lot more But you could use this as kind of your authoritative place where all kind of a discussion and whatnot around Doing this, you know with the cncf Is going to happen and and it's really your reporting place for what's going on with the project So the cncf can also see okay. There's progress being made. We're you know, these things are checkbox Here's what's left. Where can we help things like that? I think that's important for ensuring that you know Someone doesn't get this crazy idea to do this and you then get a couple months down the road and Kind of loses the steam or something happens I think it gives some visibility as well And helps kind of break down the barriers to communication and it's you know, github everyone has one You know, at least most of us do We know how it works, etc. And markdown makes it really easy to do so Definitely highly recommend that and even for your own projects as well Since most of your team probably has or most of your your attendees and members probably have a github Like it's a great place and I think that the projects board here is is really nice. I love the integration So cool continue bill. This is fantastic Don't forget lever questions comments concerns thoughts queries in the perspective field of the platform you're using And of course as always, please subscribe for more great content. 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So now the next thing now that we have our issue like say that kind of like went through Next thing is uh looking at the cfp So I can see there's applications right open right now for kcd africa and kcd Bangalore and so if I go into this kcd africa Let's say I want to apply to be a speaker there So I can log in Oh Yeah, so I was an admin before I can see there's a cfp for this right now and you know first name last name Location, you know kind of the classic stuff and then I think for the people that are Let's see So even the cncf has to fill out their own form. Yeah, you're not No, nobody nobody gets away I've done this I've done this many times so Oh, my job title is now cncf And let's see Then the next page right so is The the track you want to be on so it looks like they're having community and an enterprise one Say I want to submit to like community one submission format. So solo dual dual Dual presentation or panel title abstract benefits the ecosystem And other things that you want to do uh agreeing to the code of construct and then submitting the application So looks like their cfp is a pretty easy process to kind of go through Looks like we have a question from eve too So what is your advice for choosing sponsors most of the time is large cloud fighters, but would the event be a bit opinionated? yeah, um, so I think a great thing about Kind of like these local events is there there's a lot of local companies They're looking to kind of like build their brand in the region like, uh, mario I guess do you have any sponsors for your meetup group or Yeah, absolutely. Actually, I am wearing one of my previous companies stock x which is based in downtown detroit near Ann Arbor where a meetup is uh had sponsored for a number of years Our our meetup and and events that we were doing as well And I think this is super important because you should look at the organizers Who you know, who are the companies that they're working for and then people that you know That are at your meetup and see if their companies would support the effort most of the time We had people Coming to the meetup to love what we were doing and said hey, I'm working with my hr department to figure out Do we have a budget for spending on these sorts of things? And trying to help out and I had a lot of different people doing that and that is going to be some of the best kind of word of mouth One-on-one case by case to get local companies That can you know can see the value in this And and it's it's you know, sometimes obviously they you want to get their name out there But also I think they do want to tap into more of the the culture more of the people in that Locale and learn about what's going on in the latest in technology as they start to adopt it themselves That's what we've seen a lot. So thanks for asking bill. Yeah, absolutely Yeah, definitely. So I actually Yeah, I'd focus on the local companies in your region You know a lot of them need to hire people Or they're looking to you know, kind of like build the name for their services So I'd actually start like in your local region For the companies to sponsor too and I think Mario's experience kind of proves it out too And also in terms of like would it be a bit opinionated like right? We'd like to have you know organizers from multiple different companies Sponsors from multiple different companies. We don't want to see this kind of as events run by one group or one company We wanted to see as a community event with lots of different perspectives and lots of different people driving it forward So, you know, we like to be you know, kind of a collaborative place to to go forwards together Yeah, I want to mention like I think everybody like I love Google. I love red hat I love the slew of other big names that are in our space But I think like you shouldn't have to feel like you need to go email Google and see if they'll sponsor your event Like that's that's kind of the wrong way to think about it. I think So I just like don't get caught up in that the other part is you don't need a ton of money to put these events on Um, the money definitely makes things a little bit easier and will help out on a multitude of ways But uh, you should also not be just spending money left and right On the most expensive item as well because again, you don't need that you need very little to really provide value to your To the the attendees of the events and a good example This is food like you don't need the absolute best food You don't want cardboard pizza, of course as well, right? So you want somewhere in the middle and I think there's uh, kind of a benefit to Thinking about your costs and making sure that you're spending as wisely as possible So uh, while I'm talking it looks like for britio has brought another question bill You know, do you suggest you define tier for sponsors for virtual events? How can I convince market team and companies to sponsor my kcd? Now This is something where I feel like I would defer to the cncf and some of the guidelines and and what they have here Which looks like bill is going to show us here in a moment How I did my meetup myself was I actually did build tiers and I built kind of a what you would get at each tier What really ended up happening in in the real world is that it was kind of just this loose discussion of You know, what are they looking for? What what can we provide them? And what do they feel comfortable with uh spending? And so we had some that came at the high tier some that came somewhere in the middle You know not many that came at the low tier But maybe some individuals here and there and like it was it was tunable It wasn't like you have to do this amount to get these exact things It was really really case by case basis and really a personal like back and forth that that happened I think that is how it should be right?  They're they're in the same communities as you are It should not be a very very thick You know strict or you know massively well defined thing. Um, it should be loose. It should be conversational So hopefully that that helps you and and i'll give it to bill to talk about more about like how the cncf thinks about that sort of problem Okay, definitely. Um, so in terms of organizing There's a lot of different resources under kubernetes community day slash content And the one we're actually going to dive into right now is Sponsors So finding sponsors here. Uh, this is the recommendations that we have right so Uh, it's important to have kind of like a lead for that to identify sponsors and you know guidelines and rules Like sponsorship should be the main thing. This is kind of like a community event um but when you um Are kind of like leveraging thing. I think mario like nailed it exactly is it should be decided on like the local organizing team We have some like templates of like kind of like what we can suggest another like promotional opportunities But I think you should also think about like tuning it for like each company's individual things maybe some are more focused on like promoting their brand some are more focused on recruiting and kind of giving Some flexibility into what they're able to kind of like get as a benefit out of it And like mario said it's good to have like a conversation with those people Yeah, and so there's a lot of resources Um in the github repo if you're want to dive more into each of these things and so this doesn't just cover sponsorship um, but this actually covers kind of like the whole gamut of Running a successful event uh from our code of conduct, you know, what to do for the cfp How to manage your budget budget? Creating the website some different FAQs that we have managing speakers marketing and promotion Like diving into the actual bevy platform Managing registration like all these different resources are available in the github repo Hey bill, can you hop into and just talk about really briefly what the bevy platform is and I think that goes to the cloud native community groups and that whole kind of ecosystem Yeah, absolutely. That's actually where I'm heading next because we're almost running out of time here And I definitely don't want to miss out on this and so cloud native community groups is community.cncf.io It's a great way to kind of get involved In your communities and so you can see there's different ones all around the world In thousands we can actually see in arbor michigan here. Uh, so that's one done by mario But if we dive into this Community days region we can see the two different ones that are live right now And so if we go into kcd africa, we can see a lot of cool stuff and yes, um, my Account is in german in case anybody was wondering Sorry for those that don't speak german, but we can actually see the event right now If we dive into this a little bit more I'm actually super excited about this because they have a lot of really cool speakers It's going to be kelsey high tower nakita who's on the kubernetes steering committee Yeah, prionka is going to be there. I'm like super excited to go to this event You can hear a little bit About the event here. They have their call for speakers up You can actually see what they're looking for sponsorships right now And since cncf is doing a lot of this stuff Around the platform and stuff. They're actually looking to you know, kind of encourage people to get into the ecosystem so looking for cube con tickets for getting people cloud engineering boot camp sponsorships in the data plan subscriptions event planning and logistics You know, um, and if you want to dive more into that, uh, you can go to their open collective page And so this is kind of the like background around it um and now if I want to actually kind of like dive into the platform a little bit and Show what it offers. Uh, we'll actually go into like the back end now And see how this is all kind of set up So Here we can see, you know title, uh, the link to the actual event They shorted like the description the actual event description You know the the cover image that they have here the event thumbnail I like you were saying mario before I think they have a lot of really cool graphics stuff going on So I'm super excited for the kcb africa. I know I Like can't wait to see this happen And I I know actually abu bakar who's you know, kind of the main organizer before uh around it is actually Also going to be a cube con. Um talking about how to encourage diversity in the open source ecosystem Out of africa too. Um, so don't miss that talk at cube con Um Yeah, so really quickly I know we just have a few more minutes And I think bevy is really changing the game because uh, you know after using meetup.com Which as it's pros and cons. I think There's a lot to be desired and I think bevy covers a lot more of that and so the the cncg's definitely I'll provide more of a um A way to connect all these pieces together and and connect everything in cloud native together I just want to read there's actually a blog post on the cncf blog when Communities kcds were announced and I think this does a good job of breaking down What they are and and kind of the the What they cover and and what you cover versus, you know, how you put on this event So the cncf supports, uh kcds by providing guidance and tools covering all the aspects of holding a success event These events are decentralized and focused on community engagement We hope there will be a lot of fun and be a great way to meet new people while also building Uh community local event organizers handle their own sponsorships registration and all other logistics Uh and and of course each event brings its own local flair culture diversity and authenticity logos shirts things like that Which is really really exciting to hear also My earbuds just canceled out so I can't hear anything so i'm going to hop over to those I'm going to give it back to you bill while I while I do that Okay Well, yeah, uh, so we can dive into Like the virtual event platform we're using peppy virtual There's lots of different things that you can customize here So we can see the speakers that we're adding here Uh sponsors and partner we see that they have git lab cncf I think this is open source africa and chicode africa And then the different types of tickets and then what mario is saying before about you know kind of the different types The different features of like bevy and what it provides one thing it can provide like a lot of Analytics, but it also provides you an easy way to email all the people so we can see that we have Um a lot of different like email scheduled here And so like things like reminders to attendees and things like that are really to or Easy to organize in bevy And so if you have any questions about that also super happy to chat about bevy And then if we go back to like the content page, there's also a whole like faq session on it there too So yeah, that's awesome to see And I think the big thing when I think about setting up an event even like a workshop or a one-off Like it might be a little bit bigger than the standard meet-up is how do I get the inflow of people that want to talk? How do I get that? Coming in somewhere and how do I communicate as well as possible asynchronously with Everybody and and in meet-up that was more of a manual process And so we felt like it was the standard like three days before let's send an email And I think in most cases you want to be a little bit more conversational with your audience You know don't overwhelm them with emails every day, but also make sure that they understand You know how you're feeling about events or what's going to be happening? And where they can contribute etc So you don't want people asking four minutes before the event What do I what door do I enter into to get to this thing so Yeah, definitely and then also another like cool things that bevy has is Things like setting the agenda and manage it all in there people can build their own agendas in the bevy platform Forms for like pre-order and like post event You can have that if you want to have discounts on certain tickets email Waitlist and different emails that you're sending out So it's a really helpful platform to help make it easier for you as an event organizer to build and manage your community to So Awesome. Yeah, and we're coming up on just a couple more minutes If there's any final questions, please feel free to file those in I I personally think this is an amazing initiative. I wish I would have known more about it Before kovat and being able to do a little bit more with it. Uh, maybe even in my region or region Tengentially Located to me that I would enjoy maybe somewhere in Ohio or somewhere else where I have friends This is really cool. I think the cncf is doing really good work here to try to Get this kind of outward expression of community And and to find something where people have the The kind of wear and thaw and the flexibility themselves to be able to run these things and and the tool set is there for them Right. You you're helping get us so far Uh, you know, especially with bevy and with the support and like like bill said and especially his email that he very meticulously wrote out earlier like You can contact the cncf about any of this Their goal in life is to help out and and help projects grow and thrive and beyond projects. We see here Events and I think that's really important to the the further nurturing of cloud native kubernetes and all those other amazing projects that are Moving through the flow of getting graduated. So Email bill there. There is his email And see i'm not important in these things. I'm just kind of a messenger Bill is the one that really makes things happen.  So you are the important one here. I'm just lucky enough to have you around Yeah, totally totally. Um, okay. Well, uh, awesome. Thank you so much everybody for tuning in This has been a really fun session I think there's only one or two more that I will be doing we'll see I might come in different capacities Throughout the year depending on what else is happening. Um, but i'm having a lot of fun I hope all of you are as well next week will be paolo. We don't know what you're talking about yet I think that will be announced very shortly. Um, so thank you for tuning in Take care. Have a great west rest of your week rest of your month. Uh mario and bill signing off Goodbye


Good evening or good morning. Good afternoon. Just depends where you are. How is everyone doing? It is the last day. We're done with Catherine's week. That's it. It's over. A lot of good things happened. And we will get into all those juicy details. I'm so excited. Soon. For those who are new to watching our live casts, we will introduce everybody first. Myself and Julie, we are WikiTree team members and Mindy, she is the captain of Catherine's week and also the total coordinator for the WikiTree challenge. And we have Sarah Mason, who is going to be the captain for Pat or Dear Myrtles week. And then we have Pat Richley Erickson, who are aka Dear Myrtles, who we're starting on this week. And then we have Catherine Wilson, who we just finished. That is everybody that's here. Sometimes we have a really full house. Smaller house this time. We've had nine before. I feel like a smaller house today. I'm excited just to see Catherine in person because we're missing her over on Facebook now that she's in the frozen Northland without internet. I know it's so crazy. But I love it. I really, really love it. It's so peaceful. It's good. I wish I could. It's so nice. Like I said, for those of you who are new, maybe don't know what WikiTree is. What is WikiTree, Julie? What is it? Well, WikiTree is a community. That's a big word for us. We're a community of genealogists, and we all work together on a single family tree. So if you're on another website where you do genealogy, you might build your tree and I'll build my tree. And even though we've got an ancestor up here in common somewhere, we might never talk to each other. So when we get to a common ancestor, we work together to find information. We share sources and resolve discrepancies. In other words, we collaborate. And that's how we grow an accurate single family tree that connects us all. The best part about WikiTree, in my opinion, it's free. Yay! I just wanted to mention because I saw some people in the chat. Yes, I do have a new background. I got a tapestry from the WikiTree store. I'm very excited about this. Beautiful. It looks lovely. Now, the WikiTree Challenge the WikiTree Challenge. What is the WikiTree Challenge? Well, it is our year-long event where each week we take on a different genealogy guest star. For instance we just finished Catherine's week and we're about to start Pat's week.  And this challenge is part of our year of accuracy where our goal is to make WikiTree more accurate and also to make friends. We've made so many friends and so many connections and so much accuracy and broken so many brick walls. So we are really excited to show Catherine what we've found. Yes, and it's not just for the point system but it doesn't hurt to have that little bit of effectiveness out there for our team members. So we have different ways of collaborating while we're working on this. We have a spreadsheet where we mark which profile we're working on. That way we're not tripping over the same one and causing somebody to lose some work. It also gives you ideas of where else in the branches you can go that nobody else is at. We also have on the right you see the start of a G2G post. Now those we post interesting finds we post if a brick wall got broken through. Sometimes a question that needs to be asked but those are available for the guest as well to look at afterwards so you can kind of see what people were chatting about. And then for the next thing we have Discord. Now Discord gets pretty busy sometimes and this is our real-time chat.  Do you think this record is right? Or I need a translation help. Or people just come in and go I don't know what to do today. What can I do? Oh well here you can go do this. That'll be really helpful. So Discord has been really really important to helping us collaborate. And I mean you think about it 40-50 people working on one small section of our global tree. Wow. They're certainly going to find things we didn't know we had Catherine. Absolutely. Okay I'm showing the chat and we've got a lot of people out there who are watching. We do. We've got like 67 people tonight. Well they all better click that like button. We are so lucky. We have work. We don't need to promote us. You will. This is where we started at. We started we took each great-grandparent and kind of each we went off from there. So can everybody see something? Is there like a slide that's showing us? Yeah. That's so weird. I just see like this black screen with all these little trees on them. Oh no. Isn't that weird? I'm going to try to see if I can help you with that but you guys just carry on. You'll probably talk to you in the private chat. I don't see anything that I could change but Sarah carry on. I'm so sorry. I can watch it the recording afterwards. Maybe you can open YouTube and like Pat has and maybe if you have the bandwidth. I'll do that. Okay so this slide here now once again going back to that point system we have two ways to get points. If you break a brick wall the first brand new ancestor line on each line that person gets 10 points for that. For any of the nuclear family members so children siblings you know and I like to do a whole family approach to my research anyway so I think this was a great way to do it. They get one point for each one of those nuclear family members they add. So our most valuable player this week our MVP was Dieter Luaranz and he was just amazing. We have several experts from that are good at German records but he was our one that was available and he just did my German line. He went non-stop all week let me tell you he was just amazing. Top five we had Dieter Luaranz we had Maddie Hardman Nick Donnelly Maggie N and Joan Whitaker Awesome. These are all of our stats for the week and for the totals on those now once again here we're talking about the points that they get for this and this is just incredible to me every week to look at these. The total points earned by our team members was 807 and let me tell you that was adding 125 direct ancestors Catherine to your branches. We added 342 nuclear relatives. So yeah you're going to be amazed. 340 bounty points now for profiles edited there were over a thousand unique profiles edited and then here the total edits now this is where every time we add a source we fix an error we add some narrative we do something that's one contribution on Winky Tree in that for the people working just on your branches this week there were 4,741 edits done to your part of the tree. Is that not amazing or what? The power of Winky Tree in one week. Yeah. What have you been doing all your life Catherine? Well you know what's really funny is when this started I was talking I think you guys remember last week my first cousin once removed Kristen was on and I got excited and so she and I were messaging and I realized that there's boxes and boxes of my genealogy stuff that I just haven't even looked at in decades because all my time is spent doing client research you know. So I started pulling out all these gorgeous gorgeous photos of my great grandparents and my grandparents and actually Mindy you were the one who put the bug in me to get the photos you messaged and said did I have any and I'm like you know I do where are they and I you know we recently moved so I was digging through some boxes and it reminded me of I was at the Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy a few years ago and Tom Jones was giving a presentation or a keynote or something and he said something towards the end of the presentation if somebody were to ask him what's the one piece of advice he would give them he said don't ever stop working on your own family and I remember when he said that I thought I have stopped working on my family I need to start that again but low and behold client work took over so this whole project got me so excited about working on my own family again. Yay! I think that's one of one of the main reasons why we're doing this is to branch out get more people interested. Oh it's so exciting. Somebody had asked how many did we how many people did we have working this week on the research and that was that was over 40 people so we had 40 people that registered contributions but you have to keep in mind we have other people that contributed that didn't get points. I know like for last weeks I only had like 14 points but I had 200 contributions you know so there's also people that are adding stickers additional research they're pulling maps you know it's teamwork so. Oh my gosh. Yeah I know I'm not technically registered for the challenge but every once in a while I'll you're registered your name's on there and we all learn from each other you know we have different ways of researching little tips that we found that make WikiTree easier or researching on a certain site easier and we've all learned just immense amount you know from each other it's been great.  Well and you're in the WikiTree family now so you're kind of stuck with us but anytime you come back and go further on one of those lines let us know. Yes. What is this a picture of? This is one of the houses that's on the profile this is where I was you know talking about people contributing and I honestly I'm not sure if I have it linked what that house is but Sarah if you scroll down just a little bit now Catherine I didn't have any glitter bombs for you but instead I used surname images so for people that could put them on your profiles you're laying in your model and so the ones I got done and when you get a chance to look at them later they're all they're glittery and diamonds and oh my gosh that's so exciting all right now this is where we started these brick walls every one of those yellow places it was a brick wall on this tree and of course that massive side on the left is the Germany the Prussian ancestors tell me what are people seeing is it a chart it's a fan chart I'm so sorry no don't you know what it's my internet in the country and then we did have some pedigree collapse all of us have that somewhere on our tree so that's just marked out in green so the participants knew they don't get double points just because the name is twice on a tree but there was a there was a lot of brick wall spaces now on Emma Broche both her paternal and maternal lines were extended oh my gosh oh my gosh I'm honestly I'm like sitting on my hands right now so I don't pull my phone out and try to go into wiki tree while you're sharing this oh my gosh no you get to wait now we had we had new parents for Christian Broche interesting bit of trivia for you Johan was the second son of Michael Broche Christina was the second daughter of Christian Betcher they married in 1829 in Prussia it just was interesting that they were both you know how they say there's a family dynamics they were both second children um Johan Gaul and Anna Marie Claus were new parents found for Anna Gaul yeah Gottlieb Yankee Wolke new mother for that she previously only had a father a lot of these they put just the father's name on those pressure records for people that don't know you know so you wind up with a dad and no mom but I'm pretty sure she was there for all of them so for all of them um Johan Yankee only had a maternal grandmother we kind of worked as a group you know and how we pretty much did this is people like me and Julie and you know people that are living stateside built the profiles up to the emigrant and help find starting records and that way our German experts could come in and go oh okay let me take you back over to that country and you know just spend their time focusing on that part of it so really the collaboration was important to be able to make this much progress on it absolutely because even if I could get my hands on the German records I don't read German I would have no idea what I'm looking at I don't either so don't feel bad it was very helpful when we got to another branch of your tree to find out what the correct spelling of the names when they came over of course they all changed and just so everybody knows like the box is an orange and cats are when you watch later those are the brick walls that were broken are the lines that were I wish you could see it is impressive for Gustav we're looking at a slide on Gustav Wehrmeister right now so we don't have a photo of my only great-grandparent that I have a photo of well see there you go you have a goal start reaching out to the cousins and see if anybody's got one he is we have Christian Tuchel was a new father for Godfrey Tuchel he was a farmhand and died in Prussia he was one of the very first new ancestors found so that was kind of exciting for us also on Gustav Gustav's line was Andre Schmittke he was a tenant farmer and a new father we have Christian I feel like I'm going to get ulteriority once again we're finding the kids and everything for this so you're going to see a lot of new names a lot of new names when you start looking for it then we go through and we add all those children in so it's been fun now Evelina York expanded a couple of branches this one was particularly difficult for some reason her records just were not showing up and you had that as a very definite strong brick wall but so did we at first and finally finally we found a record that said her father's name was Adam so that one was a really really good example of collaboration Evelina York her father was Adam Pelkey Frederick who was Adam Anna Elizabeth I put those two together sorry so that's not like there's so much that it's not confusing and that's back to 17 something for you on that on Anna's side it's just amazing Catherine that is like mind-blowing I'm crying for you I know all these orange spots this is wonderful can I interject for a moment Karen one of the creators and one of the people who worked said that a few DNA testers joined this week too and they will appear on your ancestors as well so that's pretty exciting you know that really is because one of the things that I miss is and I think I was talking to Mindy about this when there was that whole informed consent thing that happened with Judd Netsch all my family members wanted their profiles taken down the only time now that I know if I'm connected to somebody is if they show up on ancestry so how exciting and real quick before I go to Odie's side you didn't have Roma a lot on Paul and Elizabeth Lepinsky but they had a lot of children together and I know you knew a little bit at least about them but one of the interesting things I found and once again you were talking about the tragedies when you started that you found in the different lines they had at least five children together their last one was born in 1843 the mom Elizabeth she died in 1852 in Prussia Paul died in 1861 so shortly afterwards and you know there's no census records so we don't know who was left to raise these five children oh man now for Odie Maughlin I don't know if you had a name for that that's his actual name O period D period and it doesn't stand for anything that's what we thought and you know one of the other team members was like wait I think I know where they got that from and I said I'm pretty sure that was just what his name was really what his name was yeah that was different there was a lot you know of course there was a lot of guessing and trying to figure out the reason to try to order his social security application to see what did he write but then I found other documents and he filled out you know like draft registration forms and he really and it all said Odie yeah and we kind of wondered if the parents liked the name Odie Odie right and then just spelled it Odie for him we had Thomas Woods and Ann Davy Woods were added as new on Odie's line were added as new parents these are new parents for Edward Woods now Edward also gained nine new siblings I've really been stuck on the woods line you know ironically my husband and I were supposed to go to England and then the whole pandemic shut down happened I was still looking forward to researching them so this is even better love it we have Nancy Wilson who said that Odie had a lot of children that didn't make it to adulthood he did in fact his wife Mina died giving child yeah very very sad and apparently she has one of the DNA cousins who joined 400 family photos they are so well documented and photos galore and do the modelings have that many wow okay and this was John Sample now you know unfortunately we didn't have any better luck than you did I think but there's been somebody working on this like all week so there's what you see in the right side is just a snippet of the space page for that there's a couple of space pages and I'll make sure you have the links afterwards where it was thoroughly researched and he is not the John Sample that was belong to that family in South Carolina oh yeah there's been a lot of confusion about the South Carolinas and our sample line definitely did not come from there they came from England into New York I can't find when exactly did they come from England into New York right okay and then on to our Voorhees of course that's still on Odie's line now we had John Voorhees and Martha Teeple Voorhees added as a new father for George Martha was already actually on Wiki Tree but she wasn't connected so they have that proven and they have her connected now they had John and Martha had five other children Mary John Mary Martha and George now I'm not sure if they just wanted to Mary's or if they'll first Mary didn't do so well but right but yeah and I have a question uh huh I'm looking at the death date of John Voorhees 1863 although in Michigan was he wounded and sent home from the Civil War possibly yeah he may have been yeah so that's other record sets to look at sorry I haven't even touched the Voorhees line that was I inherited so much when I was pretty young and then pretty much you know picked the lines that were the most interesting at the time I've not even touched the Voorhees okay so I'm really excited to see that now on Lester Havens more tragedy you know they they died very young too Lester and his wife Cleo yes and then some of these lines stretched out into the Netherlands so that was one of the projects where I have to say you know we have these fabulous projects where you can go in and specialize on one location and the group from the Netherlands has been amazing these profiles go back into the mid 16th century and they spent all week error checking making corrections making sure everything was solid disconnecting reconnecting I mean honestly there were probably better points there somewhere but they made so many changes um they were just so incredible I I couldn't even keep up with all the changes they were making but those lines you know are confirmed in solid and they just did a lot of work on it a lot so so it's off to them yeah you're gonna have new things to look at there now Cleo sample on that line that was the only one that Emma couldn't get enough matches to get the DNA confirmed on but the rest of the the rest of the branches all have the DNA on it yeah I was pretty thankful when I had my parents DNA tested that I wasn't among you know that population that comes back with oh my dad's not my dad or my mom's not my mom and I was pretty thankful that both matched because I thought if they didn't there's like all those decades of research that I had done on those specific lines that wouldn't really be biologically fine and this was just out of order a little bit here Edward Woods parents were found Thomas and Anne Davey I mean you're just you're really gonna be shocked when you see how many names you get to get to work with now this was on Odie's line and although we have that once again that pedigree collapse the green section that you can't see Catherine so just keep nodding the two modeling siblings married the two sample siblings right so despite that all of those little dots that everybody sees on there every one of those is a broken down brick wall every one of those wow yeah it's amazing so on that side of the tree there were 17 brick walls broken down 17 can you imagine I mean it's so exciting the other day I said I'm just like bursting to I mean I just can't even imagine like at the end of the day how do you go to sleep after all that adrenaline of such amazing discoveries it's hard you lay there and you think about getting back up and researching now for the entire tree and this was actually this was a last minute change and it was interesting we wound up with a total 34 brick walls broken we had three last minute adjustments today after those adjustments were done you have exactly 17 on your dad's side and 17 on your mom's side wow it hasn't happened yet but 34 total brick walls broken oh my gosh you guys that is phenomenal I am so excited to dig into this and now I need a tutorial on how to so I can find all this good stuff so do people like post records on wiki tree so that you can see where they got this information from everything has to have a citation on it wow and then this was just going through all the new surnames here is can't really see it but it's an image of the after this was a chart that was pulled shortly before the live cast there had been a total of 466 new profiles added and trust me your branches look a lot more complete now the hard work begins right where I start taking all of that and fixing my ancestry tree yes but you have sources there so that is amazing with 40 people working on your on your account on your part of the tree it's going to take you 40 years to catch up right I'm thinking I just need to retire so I can spend all this time and you know and one of the other things that I like about wiki tree is that you know we're supposed to be keeping a research log of what we do and we do it for clients but wiki tree kind of is our research log so we do research notes right on the profile if we have a brick wall we didn't break down you can go in there and see everything we've looked at what found we couldn't find on the brick wall ancestors sometimes there's explanations oh you know I still need to look for this or find that document and then you'll see a note under it and it's all time stamped so you can see what went on with it and you can also look in the change history of each profile and see how many people worked on it that is phenomenal is there a way to download a Judcom from wiki tree yes man this is amazing you know what I would love to do I would love if there's time I don't know how you guys did this but if there's time for me to sign up to help with a future guest I would love to pay back by offering time I'm just so blown away and grateful this is amazing I bet we can arrange that if you've got anybody that you know you need Michigan Territorial or Midwestern Territorial records I would love to help with that we have space pages so if your research starts getting too cumbersome or there's long wills to transcribe something you don't want to take up a whole profile for we can put it on what we call a space page this is research done of John Wildley so trying to track down all the Wildleys in the area got us possible father narrow down to like three did not break that brick wall but I tell you what you have got a ton of information there now on who lived where how their household members were and that is linked to his profile so if you look on his profile there's a link to that space page and you can go oh let me see what research people had this is like the most magnificent example of genealogical crowdsourcing and generosity isn't it I'm just blown away it's incredible we're pretty proud of our community gosh can I pop a question in for Catherine excuse me if I can keep my voice Catherine Hondros was wondering if the Voorhees Road in Waterford Township Oakland County Michigan was named after your family I wouldn't be surprised because we did have a lot of settlers in Oakland County lots and lots especially the sample line which I think the Voorhees extends off that so I wouldn't be surprised but I'm writing it down so I can look it up and find out so how do I respond can I go into the YouTube thing after this is done and like respond there well she's on Facebook so if you want to send I know you're not on there anymore but if you wanted to get back to her one of us could do it for you you could probably just send it to Mindy because I think you've got her contact so do we have any other questions for Catherine or do you have any questions for us before we I have just blown away oh my gosh Mert I hope that you have as much excitement as I have this is like this is Christmas and birthday and anniversary and Easter and it's just filled into one right I was crying for you for all the orange boxes I started keeping track of just who it was on the pedigree chart they were boxing not all their children or siblings and I gave up after a while I mean because it's just incredible what work you all have done for our Catherine it's just wonderful it really did bring me to tears it was the generosity how do you do this in a phenomenal 40 people collaborating together on your tree you guys are such an amazing community and I honestly I'm so honored now that I get to be a part of the community too we're so glad that you let us work on your tree oh my privilege my honor well I guess we will switch gears over to Mert you can just call me Mert well I get the privilege of introducing you Mert so I'm going to call you I haven't written down as Pat because I didn't know what you preferred but give me just about a half an hour and I'll be able to say everything that you've done so yeah we have 1400 videos is that right and that's just on one channel it's not me doing it it's everybody it's another collaboration or I couldn't possibly do it yeah well for the people who don't know you and I don't think there's probably very many but Pat is best known for being dear Myrtle she has one of the top five genealogy blogs on the internet and she has used her experience as a corporate computer instructor to help countless genealogies new and old learn how to better document their family history excuse me as I just got an update she has more than 1400 videos covering a wide range of genealogy topics Mert is also the co-founder of Genia Quilters which is a Facebook group the sole founder I assume of GeniaWebinars.com and she participates in a number of ways with the association of professional genealogists in 2015 she received the president citation from the national genealog excuse me genealogical society she's written two books two big books the everything online genealogy book and the joy of genealogy in addition to magazine articles a chapter in the family chronicles a section to genealogy and she started a little a series of little books called I think I just had two examples of those the getting started with family history and internet research top 20 things to do online oh boy does that one need well you have to go to your about page no I meant I need to update that little book I'd sell if I was speaking in person and somebody was new and they just wanted to spend you know four dollars or five dollars it was an easy way to get into understanding some good principles of what to do what to do next yeah good beginning genealogy stuff it's awesome well and then you're apparently not busy enough because you also host a radio show so it's still ongoing no it's not ongoing when Hurricane Charlie came and did a direct hit there on the Gulf Coast of Florida wiped out two radio stations one of them was internet radio the other one was an AM station and the owners declined to rebuild so that's how I got into podcasting and I got into webinars because it's much easier to actually demonstrate something than to try to describe what it looks like I agree 100% yes yeah but you also do a lot of public speaking and I've met you before at Roots Tech I'm sure you don't remember me because you've met a million people there and I could go on but I think that Sarah and Mindy have a number of questions that they wanted to ask you okay sounds good and genealogy well a lot of people know that I'm Mormon and so when it's a combination of in my art class I was learning to do calligraphy and I had to do a project so I'm like why don't I do a family tree so I did my mother's family tree and calligraphy you know pedigree chart and that was the beginning of it and I'm like who are these people and then there's my dad's side yeah that's another thing they were in the same county in Missouri tarring and feathering my mother's side of the family so no wonder my parents were divorced it's in the genes I don't think you're expecting that answer were you that's how I got into it my grandmother Myrtle and I pray that I'm using her name wisely she's the one that we got to go spend time with on you know spring break stuff like that and can I share one story of course imagine that I'm about five and my brother's about four and grandma has to clean the house she was smart big bucket of water and those big house brushes that our grandpa Harold used to paint the house with and she said here I want you to paint the front steps they were dark green wooden steps and we were to start at the top and yeah water make it look pretty nice by the time we got to the bottom step the top steps it dried off so I had to go up there again and do it again she got her house cleaned that way we giggled about it many many years later I died of Lou Gehrig's but before she did we went to visit her and she wrote on one of those member magic slaves where you'd lift up the whatever the covering was but you'd write on it with the stylus and she used to tease me that I was into genealogy because when I was about seven I had the audacity when visiting her that I did not want to go to Aunt Graces to be with all those old people of course now I am an old people person but anyway my grandma Myrtle just has lots of memories I miss her dearly and she's my dad's side of the family that's really cool it's a great story so do you have any more stories to tell or any interesting stories about any of your ancestors well I have I never looked for famous ancestors you know how some people say oh this is the last name of this famous person and it's the same as mine my grandmother Myrtle's maiden name is Wiser and when we literally worked up the tree really pallentines that came from Germany up the Rhine River and had to pay taxes until I went to Germany and France to see that Rhine River you can see one castle and another one at the distant and there's one right behind you and each of those principalities charged for the barge that my ancestors were on to go north the river flows north to pass through that next year they literally put chains across in the 1700s early 1700s so they lived in downtown London in a tent city for about two years and the parliament wanted to know what should we do with all these Germans it's a big problem they sent a few families to Ireland not mine that I know of and the very German names that show up there in certain places in Ireland and then there's our group that was sent to upstate New York and the idea was they were to extract tar or pitch from the trees to make the tar that would then seal the wooden ships for Her Majesty's Navy but it didn't work either the trees weren't good or they weren't trained my people were bakers for many generations my wiser family and so they were abandoned my father had his son Conrad who was a young teen at that point he hung out with the neighborhood people in the wilderness which would be the native Americans so he learned to speak the language and when he moved to Pennsylvania and into his adulthood he was a translator between the natives and the colonial government yes that's my guy that's the son Conrad Weiser Homestead in Wummelstorpe, Pennsylvania how he managed to do this though I don't know he was also a colonel during the French and Indian war and had troops along the blue I think it's the blue mountains there so that one is kind of interesting somebody's mentioning the AOL Golden Gates Genealogy Forum yep Diana I know Diana from that Q-link before that on our Commodore look at all these people that we've been doing genealogy for years and now we got a lot going on in the chat here too but anyway I don't know I think he's pretty cool to figure out how to I mean just as a young teen how to learn language and to play games and then develop these relationships of trust with the natives in New York and in Pennsylvania and to effectuate a better relationship with the colonial government in Pennsylvania I think that's pretty cool I wish I could be a builder of bridges like that I think you are I just like to get together and talk about family history it's all good when did you first discover wiki tree well your wonderful illustrious leader when it first came out I always love hearing all the new stuff and he said why didn't you upload your jetcom and I'm like okay because I had gone there and entered my name and then realized I don't want to type in all these generations so we uploaded a jetcom and I combined the two which is completely different from how you combine two profiles now and I'm like yeah he says well I'm experimenting with a tree where the family photos will show up which you know that's a standard thing now particularly the one where it's the actual outline of a tree and so we experimented with that and so it was from the beginning but I found in preparing for this event I should have made it for October Aowyn said could you come in January I'm like no I want to clean up my profiles so then she I settled on March with her but each week since the beginning of the year we've been learning new things about wiki tree and that of the people that have been coming to my mini-merch they're in the same boat they started anything for a while and now there's so many resources available and it helped to have Hilary and Frank beyond standby to you know I try something I mean I could upload a picture I could do that still the same it's all good what's Thomas saying he wants to know if and I'm going to butcher this for a second here is the language of the region that your ancestor learned I honestly don't know what language it was but I do know that skill comey was the name of a native leader who was a good friend to Conrad Weiser and upon his death he said something to the effect that this is really a loss to both communities both the Native American and the Native American peoples to have Weiser pass away so if skill comey S-K-I-L-L-K-E-M-I-E you'll probably get it on there's a statue at the Weiser homestead which is a Pennsylvania historical site and it quotes him Yeah Rob's GEDCOM cleanup tool is amazing This is one of our members has created a tool that will go in and take out all of the flotsam that comes in with the GEDCOM and reformats everything to make it look a lot nicer and make it easier to read Yeah we did a little bit of that but not on all my lines I mean I'm like Catherine so many other things that I hardly ever get to do stuff even 20 minutes at a time in a week and I love that I got to and I want to continue meeting with my group on Wednesdays on many more for 20 minutes because they're now to the point where other people not just we're looking at other people's part of the tree at WikiTree and helping solve their conundrums so I like that when we started with my example and they saw one of my horrible citations Oh my gosh Do you want me to tell you about it? We're all friends in here I am so old that the first census record research I did was at Archives 1 and it was when we had wet paper copiers that were 11 by 17 and you had to fold them in half and now the ones that were in page protectors all that powder has come off What I did to cite the source was to take two pictures of one of the actual entry because my guys are never at the top of the census page where you could see the column headings and the other thing I did was zoom in on the heading so I knew the year, the place, the stamp page number, the written page number and I just plastered them together into one image and that was it. I never wrote a citation and I was shocked when I brought it up because I don't ever remember doing that but at least I tried You gave people the tools to find the records Yes I just wanted to make a point you helped build Wiki Tree and build the base of what it was so while you had to enter a lot of your ancestors manually a lot of people are like I don't want to enter my stuff manually or go through that whole Gencom and we usually tell people well you'll get a couple generations in and then you'll notice you already have ancestors on Wiki Tree because it's such a vast community you've had so many people, so many people are on Wiki Tree that more than likely everybody will find at least some ancestors on Wiki Tree This is what we noticed today with Karen Cave our friend from Balmore, Maryland where she had a lot on her list to compare and you don't need to go too far back on your generations before you meet up I've got to tell you it's amazing because Hillary Gadsby who's one of your people She's on my panel for Mondays with Mert and every time I turn around you guys are doing a source-a-thon or something like that or you're planning on doing one or you just did one and so what we're getting is the message that you really care about having sources and not just random let's put this guy because his name is John Smith Senior he must be John Smith Junior's dad Nah, we want documents that tell us something an image so she's been doing a lot of leg work that made it really easy for me to come back in I can't believe what you all did for Catherine this week, that was just incredible and speaking of what are your current brick walls that we might be able to work on this week I am very interested in knowing okay these just go back to your great grandparents but yeah I see that so on my Goring line they came over somewhere around 1848 and I don't know what's my grandmother Francis' maiden name, my maternal grandmother's maiden name I have some inkling about Weisers over in Germany my biggest problem is Dolly Yackey who doesn't show up yet on this, she's one generation back on which side? On dad's side of the family and I think it's Y-O-C-K-E-Y Cheryl P-O-L-O County Michigan in 1858 and it was always said that she was from Franklin, Pennsylvania well that's a county, it's also a town and I had it narrowed down to a couple of possibilities so there I am okay yep there she is married to Daniel Weiser she's my brick wall now there is someone on Family Search who thinks she knows who her dad is but I've never heard of them being in upstate New York but on the other hand when Dolly married her husband Mr. Weiser how do you say S-C-I-O-T-O County in Ohio you came that way whether it was Pennsylvania or New York you came down that way if you were going to go farther west you found skill comey thank you Thomas now after watching and received for her gift what are you hoping to see participating in this challenge well I need to get my DNA connected I'm not sure that it is and I've never done that part other than it's very obvious on my dad's side that I'm connected to a lot of people but I don't know about my mom's side and I know that she's my mother we all love our step mom let's put it that way but I wanted for the first time bring the DNA over and see what happens and I know that challenges can happen and I'm prepared to handle whatever shows up I'm ready I'm prepared I've heard stories and it's okay but we have our DNA expert Emma we can see if she can help with the DNA aspect of your tree so you want my Jed match or what do you want she can yeah they'll get in touch with you all right so in order to get an email to me you have to put urgent in the beginning of the subject line okay now everybody else don't listen to that part he just receives 100 urgent emails cause I look at those first I get about 700 emails a day and that's what leads and that doesn't count the mail list and stuff like that that I subscribe to these are people who have a query and that informs my decisions about what we might be talking about during my webinars so yeah and it's I need to tell you all I am so happy to be here do we have any before Mert has to go cause I know she has to go in a bit do we have any other questions for her Sarah do you have any questions do we have anything in the chat before we I haven't seen anything else pop up in the chat that we didn't already share so I think we're doing okay somebody thinks that you might be connected to her Higgins I don't know that far back into New Jersey my Higgins are Tolbert and Talbert Higgins father and son one or the other of them served in the Civil War and I'm not sure cause I have to go look at the actual file and service file as well as pension file to fair it out which man is which man that's a little confusing and that's all I know about Higgins it sounds like a chore sounds like something for our wonderful wiki tree yeah sorry did you have anything that you wanted to ask or I can't think of anything else I think we've covered a lot okay well thank you Mert for letting us tackle your tree and thank you for coming on we're all really excited alright rest well yes thank you I know you have to head off and thank you everyone in the chat for watching things all our participants in the challenge thank you wiki tree in general and don't forget you can go on wiki tree dot com check us out and also like the video subscribe and they are all recorded so you can watch this later so we will see you next Wednesday for when we wrap up Mert and we also have our Saturday livecast at 10 a.m. Eastern time so don't forget to check that out and we will head off now guys it was nice seeing everybody