Live from Las Vegas, Nevada, it's theCUBE. Covering Knowledge 15, brought to you by ServiceNow. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here day three, rapping down, getting ready to wrap down day three. Close out the ServiceNow live in Las Vegas with ServiceNow's Knowledge 15, hashtag No15. Join the conversation, browse the conversation, go to crowdchat.net slash no15 where we have a threaded conversation, CrowdChat there. This is theCUBE, our flagship program. We're going to go out to the event, let's distract the people in the noise, I'm John Furrier. My co-host Dave Vellante, our next guest is Alan Linewall, CTO Cloud Platform and Infrastructure at ServiceNow. Welcome back to theCUBE. Thank you very much, guys. So how do you feel? I mean, winding down. I mean, everyone at ServiceNow we talked to has had customer meetings, a lot of labs, a lot of action, a lot of tech geekness going on here, a lot of goodness in the cloud. That's your wheelhouse. Let's get into it. Yeah, it's absolutely my wheelhouse. I mean, this has been an amazing event. I've been here since Saturday and it seems like the minute I landed in Las Vegas, there's been customers asking me about the cloud, they've been talking to me about scaling up, doing new applications for service management, it's just been a load of fun. So I got to ask you, one of the things that we always cover, obviously all the Amazon shows, all the cloud shows, OpenStack, you name, we all cover all, and cloud agile development, DevOps, it's been around for a while, it's the rage and all the web scale companies and you guys employ a lot of folks who worked at some of those early companies that brought out this huge scale up open source communities is now hitting mainstream. You see all the startups start in the cloud called born in the cloud, but you guys have an enterprise footprint and know the enterprise grade game. That's right. So now you got the cloud of agility, you got the cloud as an innovation engine. Explain to the folks out there, what is that dynamic? Because it's not obvious to folks that are out there in the enterprise how powerful a cloud can be. Well, they know it's powerful, but when you put it into practice, to have the best of enterprise grade, land and expand, rapid time to value, standing up solutions. That's right. It's kind of your wheelhouse. So talk about that dynamic. What is it about your platform that makes it cloud native for apps? Exactly. I mean, what's really interesting about our environment is we really focused on building solutions for the end user. In other words, we want to give them an environment that allows them to develop apps quickly. We want to be able to scale that app very quickly to match almost any user demand and we want to be able to have that application and that service management portfolio sort of reach anything in the enterprise. You're right. It's a lot different than starting with AWS where you basically VI a blank file and you start writing your code from scratch. In our mode, we have forms, we have applications, we have integrations, we have all sorts of stuff pre-built that allows you to build service management apps really, really quickly. And because it is enterprise grade with redundant fibers and redundant power and lots and lots of big iron in terms of server capability, we have the ability to really grow as fast as the enterprise can grow. Talk about the challenges of operationalizing the cloud. You guys have a lot of customers that have been successful. They started an IT and the notion of service management isn't an IT game anymore. So you're starting to see encroachment into new territory, HR, financial ops, all these other cool stuff's happening where the value is, but you don't have to be, you guys don't have to have the full blown platform because it's kind of extensible. Explain what that's all about. In terms of that kind of platform, what is it about the technology that makes it work? Because we're here in buzzwords like real time, well, they're good buzzwords, real time, presence, private instances for developers. What, explain that. Yeah, so what we've done is we've built what we call multi-incense architecture. And what that really means is every customer gets a full stack of capabilities. Whether it's logical code running in a Java virtual machine or it's their own database presence that's in our infrastructure. And that does give them the real time aspect. It gives them the ability to add code on the fly. It gives them the ability to work in it, like you said, a DevOps environment where you can change things and immediately promote them into production. But another thing about the DevOps environment which is interesting is people like to be able to develop in one particular area and then promote up to production. And because of the fact you have multiple instances, you can actually do that. You can have developer instances, you can have instances for what we call UAT or user acceptance testing. And then once you're done throwing testing all that and having the folks in the user community with the enterprise play with it, you can move it into production very, very quickly. It's a product we have called Cloning. And it probably wouldn't surprise you that we do it with service now. So one of the things that we noticed for some of the developers, well, you guys have a lot of happy customers, service now, all the customers are happy, but the developers on the Amazon side who are happy love the fact that when they were pushed off the production, there's a lot of auto scaling, auto provisioning, auto updates on code revisions. What is the equivalent analog to service now? So if I move something into production, what does that mean to my code base? Does updates ripple through? How does that just explain that? Cause I never really got the explanation. Yeah, it's a bit of a different environment. I mean, our code base by definition has the ability to accept lots of changes. You can push new changes into our code basis, something called update set. And once it's actually in the environment, the environment itself does scale as needed. So we have the ability to basically move the customer instance we call it and actually scale it up dynamically. We monitor everything that's going on in the environment. We monitor the transaction rates. We see what the size of the incident tables are. We see how many users are coming in. And yeah, we will pick their instance up and we'll move them and we'll scale them and we'll make them bigger. They don't even have to ask us. It just sort of happens on demand. And the reason that's so powerful is we don't want the enterprise to think about, I need to now think about a number of CPUs I'm going to add, or amount of memory I'm going to add, or we just want to think about deploy the application and we'll go ahead and scale it automatically for them. So Dan McGee was on earlier and he's the top dog in terms of all the infrastructure to build out.  I mean, people don't look at service now as a cloud company. They look at Google, Azure, AWS, but you guys have a full blown cloud. So explain that out. And two, talk about the geographic data centers. Are you guys global? You guys okay in all the countries? Sure. Tease that out. So how about the cloud? What's going on for you guys in terms of having that cloud capability? Sure. So we actually have 16 global data center presences. And what we do is we deploy our cloud in pairs of data centers. So the US we have a pair, Switzerland we have a pair, Canada we have a pair. And between those pairs, customer instances have an active side and sort of a passive standby side. And the idea is in a given geography, you want half your actives on side A and half your actives on side B and they're copying data to each other dynamically and keeping them all up to date and up to sync. So our cloud presence is really geographically based and it's global. It's in 16 locations and eight different geographies. And those are synchronous locations? That's right. Okay so and you're saying you've essentially got data in two places. That's right. But I was confused, you said one's active, one's passive, you said no that's a typical situation. Sorry, what happens is for a given customer instance, their active instance will be in say side A. But at the exact same time we're replicating their data in real time over to the passive side and side B. And that gives us the ability that if something goes bump in the night and side A, we can quickly switch them over to side B. And that's what we do. And so how do you deal with sort of, you know, RPO around or how do you deal with local disaster, for example. Hurricanes, earthquakes and things like that. Yeah, we have the ability to move customer instances. Matter of fact, there's probably 3, 400 customer instances being moved between the active and the passive side right now. The reason it is is because we have it all automated and we're always trying to balance our cloud. So let's say we're talking about Switzerland. In Switzerland we have a portion of our cloud Geneva and a portion of our cloud in Zurich. And half our customers are active in Geneva and half of them are active in Zurich. And the backup side is on either side. And again, at any point in time, if we wanted to, we could pick everyone up from Zurich and move them to Geneva. But that's in a synchronous distance, right?  So if all Switzerland went away? Yeah, well, I mean, it depends on where your stuff is. And Switzerland's not a flood zone. Yeah, so in the United States, we have Virginia and we have San Jose. And we try to make sure our data center pairs are in outside of sort of hazardous zones. So they're not paired in the same location. Okay, but so then that instance is not synchronous. It's not synchronous distance, I mean, 200K. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, so you've got an RPO data loss factor that you've got to account. It's about 100 milliseconds max between any two locations. Okay, okay, so that answers the question. I mean, you're essentially dealing with that with distance. Yeah, so I thought you meant by synchronous copy. Okay, I'm sorry, yeah. So in Europe, it's very common to have physically, I mean, that's sort of the norm. United States is obviously different. Yeah, and in Europe, we run in Amsterdam and London, and then we run in Zurich and Geneva. Okay, so will customers in Switzerland actually have data in London as well or no? No. No, okay, so you keep it in? That's right. I see. And then I wanted to ask you, because we're going back to the architecture.  You guys are providing primitives as part of what you're delivering. We're also providing full applications that people can leverage and modify and tweak on their own. So you've got essentially IT primitives and you've got business primitives, is that so, what are some of those sort of concepts that we should be familiar with? It depends on which discipline you're talking about. If you're talking about an IT discipline, we have your classic incident problem change, which customers that can tweak for their own environment. Data structures. Data structures, forms, lists, workflows. Something becomes an incident, an incident could become a problem or a bug, a bug could mean you have to implement a change. But you can do things like facilities. Facilities, you might want to have an incident which says the restroom's dirty. So you want to file an incident to say the restroom's dirty. The way you do that is the changes, someone gender comes in, fixes it and changes the restroom. It's kind of the same process, whether you're talking about IT or facilities or HR. Think about from a HR perspective. You call HR and say, I want to know what my benefits are. That could be an incident. Somebody called up and said, tell me what's going on on life or death benefits. And then the way you solve that is you have someone give them form back, or have them give you information back. No, out of the box, I've got business primitives too. It's your workflow oriented, business process oriented. Exactly right. Hey, well you brought it. That's got triggered me for some good questions there to ask because I love this stuff. Part of my job. Don't throw any water on me. But you mentioned lists, data structures. I'll see you get databases in there. Real time's huge, presentation, presence, real time, synchronous, client, type of edge. You got Angular, you got node stuff in there. All this stuff's happening, right? It's the modern way. I think it's managing cameras and all the stuff on the devices. Really brilliant, great job. I really love the software. But that brings up the question of unstructured data because now you're dealing with a new dynamic so I want you to share kind of the complexity of really how hard it is to do that real time stuff. When you're dealing with databases that have to sometimes keep their stores and or you've got lists. Things like Redis have been successful out there. You've seen a lot of things like streaming in the cloud. What's under the hood there? Can you just talk about what you guys have to address that because the developers need to have queuing, they need to have lists and they need to also have the standard databases in there all working at low latency real time. What's the secret sauce? What's the magic under the cover? It's interesting. I mean you're absolutely right that developers do need that environment but in our environment we don't necessarily have those specific data stream primitives for example. They're built into the platform but specifically what we have at the top end is we have a horizontally scalable array of Java virtual machines. We're running Tomcat. So all the application logic runs in Tomcat. So the presence is done by having that code in the Tomcat Java virtual machine. There's some other present servers that sit off the side that understand who's online and when they're not online.  Again a MySQL instance for every single customer. In terms of document store and things like that we actually handle most of that by logic in the Java virtual machine and we store in the MySQL database what you might consider a blob, a data blob. But that's a natural decision, right? Architecturally that makes a lot of sense because the Java you decouple is application driven. And then that's decoupled, highly cohesive in itself from the real time stuff which is dynamic and always moving. So you build that into the platform. We do, we build that right into the platform. We also have queuing mechanisms and other technologies in the platform that allow us to keep those things up to date. We don't necessarily expose them out to the user. We expose that to the user is an API that allows them to benefit from that service. Upload this particular photo. Find out the presence of this particular user. They don't need to know about looking at a particular queue and registering for events. It's just there in the API for them to use. And this, I go down this line because the question, because this is one of the things we heard all week is that it makes DevOps not DevOps. It makes it, you abstract away a lot of those complexities. So now you're essentially just filling out a template. Not, I don't want to oversimplify but you know what I'm saying. You don't need to go in and run the queuing and you can use the queuing. You can just use the existing predefined. Technology, you've abstracted that. Is that correct? That's right. I mean, what is DevOps? It's operations and development working together. And it's development trying to solve the business problem and it's operations trying to keep infrastructure and owning that entire stack and simultaneously those guys working together. Previously, as you know, developers run something and throw it over the wall of operations and say, you know, you're piled, they deal with now, go figure it out. And we've sort of changed all that now where people can develop in real time and the operational mechanics of everything behind that is kept up to date automatically. Scaling, for instance, is an inherent, twiddling around with elastic beanstalk. No, you're not twiddling on elastic beanstalk. This is the holy grail, in my opinion, pun intended, because what you have is the DevOps, what I call Gen 1 DevOps, so the guys who built it themselves, they were writing the code. That's right. It tends to our early comment that Fred was on, saying that you guys hired a lot of guys who did that, making great architectural decisions. But actually, focus isn't from pure developer engineering to business engineering. So this is where the focus and the service comes in. So what's interesting is you've abstracted away, provided a platform for folks to actually work on the business process engineering, which includes writing some code. There's definitely, I mean, there's definitely, if you want to customize your application to read a particular medical record automatically and perform OCR on it, to have it fill out a form, you know, we don't have that. But you could write that code onto the platform and the platform would use the basic primitives in the API and the REST API to push that right into the incident table or to push that attachment straight into our system. And then on the back end, we would record that in my SQL and we replicate it to the parasite. We make sure all the network traffic worked. You don't have to worry about that anymore.  That's right. The word standing up is the cloud term. Where does that, but that's the new normal, right? Standing stuff up fast doesn't have to be just pure tech. It could be the business loose and our coding. So that is, to me, you guys really, I think have a secret formula. They're lightning in a bottle. Which brings me to my next question, developers. Yeah. 1,200 developers here today for creating, isn't it? Pretty significant traction. I mean, pretty big traction. So where do you guys go from here? So I got to ask you. You're providing essentially the engine for whatever cars people build, and metaphorically speaking, for these applications. What is the continued approach for the developers? How are you guys building out the infrastructure to create more goodness for these developers? Let's give us some tease of what's coming around the corner, what's out there now. I'll see private instances we mentioned earlier. Yeah. Some sandboxing capability. Yeah, we have this capability called developer instances which we're giving away to our developer community. And the idea is that we want people to get into the platform. We want them to be creative. We want them to be able to take the building blocks of everything we built and to sort of run with it. Now, our internal folks, our applications, whether it's our service management applications, our HR applications, our ITOM applications, they already take advantage of that. So I kind of have two users, if you will, with two customer bases. One of them is our internal application developers. We've been getting free instances for a long time. We've been getting a lot of them. Depends on how you define free. But now you're exposing free instances to the real world, the rest of the world, right? That's right. What else do they get with the instances? Just instances, they get any more code in there from the applications? What are they? Well, they can go to share and they can download things that the community has given them. They can obviously buy other things that people put on the store, which we just announced. And they get a whole set of functionality that allows them to create almost anything. Go walk the X-Fo now, show floor. It's just amazing what we've seen people do. We saw one team develop an event correlation tool that looked into CMDB. And then I turn the aisle and I see someone that's working on medical and legal records by writing code. It's just such a diverse environment. I ride in the elevator and I see folks from Corning and I see folks from Arthur Anderson, I see folks from Ernest and Young and Morgan Stanley. And I'm like, these are just all different verticals but they understand that what we've built in the platform allows developers to really sort of go wild. And what we've done with CreatorCom has really given them that vehicle where they can get together and lock mines. Yeah, Dave and I were talking earlier about why investors should be excited about servers. Now we're talking about the whole value proposition. One of the things that I didn't mention that we highlight here is that it's for all businesses. It's not like an industry. So Morgan Stanley, that's a melting pot, Morgan Stanley. So that's awesome. So I got to ask you, pretend for a minute that we want to port our application, the cube to written in Node, Angular and Java. We have three separate code bases. What would we do? How would we, what would we do? So I come back to the outside, hey, just came back from service now, amazing platform, they have a store. We can make money with these guys and solve our customer problems without doing all this other stuff. Take me through, what's that next meeting? Do I got to start writing code? I got to get the free, get the instance. What's involved under the hood? Do I do a language, do I code? Yeah, you get a free developer instance. And then you start learning our glide APIs and you start understanding how to interact with the platform. I don't know exactly what your application does but I assume it's some sort of registration service as well as some other service people can watch videos, chat, well chat's already there. So as soon as you stand up and app on the platform you've got a chat room. So there is no code to be written for chat. If you want to do a live feed where you decide that you want to post messages and have everyone on the portal see you live sort of feeding and what's going on, that's there, you don't have to do anything. It's already there. So this is the sort of benefit of the platform. One of the things you'd have to write is you'd have to customize any sort of interaction with those users to meet your needs. Does that make sense? Glide APIs mainly, that's the main thing. Yep, exactly. And then I write my app for my world, solves the problems and I'm interfacing with those APIs. That's right. And that's it, pretty much. Glide isn't Glidesoft? Glide isn't Glidesoft, that's right. He's not giving up on Glide. The founder, he got his little walk away. He got his sacred cow in here. The internal code still is called Glide and people ask us what it's about and we just say, there's a history there. You got to keep the sacred cow in there. So API good, documentation will be there. Know the videos are on the site and then ultimately certification for the store. That's right, you could end up becoming certified for the store. It's funny, I ran the hackathon on Tuesday night and to see the things that people wrote on the platform. We had a team there that had been on the platform for 48 hours and they were writing an application to help Toyota Motors that work for Toyota to fill up an inventory management system to make cars. So when you order something specific on a particular type of car, they wanted to be able to create an order form that started a workflow that told the workers on the manufacturing floor, go put in tan carpet in gray seats or whatever you want to do. These folks have been on the platform for 48 hours and they're going to cure that app in less than eight hours. And that's because of the platform tool and the primitives you provide, all the distraction you've taken away from them, they're focusing on the front end. They're front end, the front end and being sort of the infrastructure guy, the thing I'd bring up is once we stood that up and put it in production, it would be in two locations, it would be accessible via anyone, have our full security parameters and perimeter around it. It'd be replicated, it'd be backed up, it'd be available. It would be, you know, if anything on that particular hardware went south, it would move without them touching it. All that's there day one. So what's the coolest thing you've seen here at the show and I want two answers here. One, in the show itself, keynote, labs, whatever, and two, the hackathon besides the Toyota examples, give some other examples. Okay, the coolest thing I've seen here at the show so far, I gotta tell you, Fred's demo was pretty cool.  So we were really impressed by that. That's a little self-serving, but that is sort of the thing that I kind of went, I want the eye watch now. In terms of the hackathon, I think the coolest thing I saw is we had a team from a company called GoDaddy. GoDaddy uses us as our IT department. And there's a team of five people and they're trying to build an application that said we have a platform application that allows you to have on-call schedulers.  And they use that, but the thing that wasn't available is if I'm driving, take me off the schedule because I don't want to be talking and driving on a problem, or if I'm out at dinner with my wife, hit a button and say I'm out at dinner with my wife, take me off the schedule for two hours. So they had a team of four and they started working on it at four o'clock in the afternoon and by 7.30 at night, three of the four left. They said this is too hard, we can't figure this out, we don't quite get it. One woman named Anna Stade. She got all the way to midnight and actually won one of the five golden tickets to go on to the next day. She took it home solo. She took it home solo. And again, she had never developed on the platform before and by the time she was up on the Expo Now floor, you could click in and out of your on-call rotation and it's all developed. Well, just Alan, I think he's going to have big success with developer programs. So make sure we bring theCUBE to those events because I think you guys are going to have a great business model, how you built the platform, not being too aggressive on the land, grab side. Got great enablement, you're empowering people to be successful and people make money and have fun doing it. So congratulations. Thanks for spending some time on theCUBE. We really appreciate it. I'll give you the final word as we break. What's the vibe of the show? The folks aren't here. Share with them out there. What's the vibe of the show? What's it like? They're not in the moment like we are. I know you're working hard, but there's some good vibe here. It's fun. It is. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. There's a lot of folks coming out from CreatorCon right now. I think the thing that's most amazing to me is just the scale of this show. I mean, there are people everywhere. We were talking just a few minutes ago. There's people out on the lawn. There's people upstairs in the Hang Now area. The community is buzzing. Everywhere I go, people are like, have you heard about this? And look at this particular app, and we're going to go home and use this for X, Y, Z. We're going to come back a year from now. There's going to be 10,000 things that have been developed that we've never thought of. And that's just awesome. And that's the whole purpose of the platform. Really, congratulations. I really, a big fan of what you guys done. Software is phenomenal. The demo Fred gave us. And it's really hard to do. And it's great software. Again, product leadership is one of the things you guys hang your head on. Yeah, we're having a lot of fun. And I think everyone on the team just really enjoys providing solutions. And the feedback we get from our customers is just overwhelming. Yeah, you guys are very humble. And you take the feedback. That's great. Some companies don't. I'll name a few, but I won't. We love feedback, because you win us water in our face. But that's theCUBE. Allen Line 1, thanks for coming to CTO, Cloud and Infrastructure here inside theCUBE. Sharing the signal from the noise. We are theCUBE. We'll be right back after this short break.


The Supreme Court has granted leave to the federal government to bring nine new grounds of appeal against the release of pro-Bioforage Teta Namdikano, a five-member panel led by Justice John Okoro granted the leave on Thursday while ruling on the motion by the Council to the federal government, Minister Tijani Ghazali. The apex court also granted leave to the federal government to include these nine new grounds as part of its amended notice of appeal dated 28 of October 2022. After the resumed hearing, Council to Namdikano Mike Ozokame informed the court of his motion seeking for bail of his client and another seeking for his transfer to the Kuje Correctional Facility to get proper medical attention citing his failing health at the custody of the Department of State Services, the DSS. He also prayed for an accelerated hearing of the matter. At 6.25 p.m. they served us for that documents, for that court processes which have again necessitated us today taking an adjournment but in order not to fall into their cheap traps and to escape their cheap entrapment what we have done today is to say all those funny and funny motions you are be filing we want extension of time to file additional grounds we are not opposing all of them let all of them go in let us go into the main appeal so the main appeal by the grace of God has been done John to the 11th of May 2023 which is just less than two weeks or about two weeks from now. Hello hope you enjoyed the news please do subscribe to our youtube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates


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Hey guys, welcome back to our channel. My name is Andrea with Food and Mentory Adventures in Food and I am here today with a quick fill-in haul from Aldi. I spent 61 dollars and some change and I will jump right in. So we'll start over here. I got some coleslaw mix. I plan on making some stir fries coming up soon and so needed that. I also grabbed a Caesar salad kit as well. This is either going to be for lunch or dinner. I'm not sure but we're going to have salads at some point. I needed one jalapeno for a recipe and I actually did not know that Aldi sold these individually. I thought they were just in packs. So my little jalapeno was 10 cents. I also needed some mushrooms for a recipe. I grabbed a couple of cans of these French style green beans and I needed some whipped topping for a recipe as well. I have just become a huge fan of these three cheese tortellini package. It was a $1.95 for a nine ounce package and there is a recipe that I always make. It is tortellini carbonara. It's a quick weeknight meal that I've shared on our what's for dinner videos and so I just like to have these on hand. I also grabbed some green onions because I like to have those too and then I can never have enough sharp cheddar cheese so I just bought a package because I think I only have one in the fridge. These were a new item and they had three different flavors. They had vanilla and then they had a habanero flavored one and then this lemon one. So I thought this one Howard and I would like. Kind of looks like waffle cones but I'm not sure so looked pretty good. Harrison likes veggie straws but he's only had the sea salt and so I've already introduced him to cheddar flavored things but not ranch so I wanted to give these a try to see if he would like them. I needed some chicken tenderloins and these are the frozen variety and I also grabbed some flounder and I've mentioned before that Howard and I are trying to eat a little bit healthier and we don't really care for fish very much but I did grab some to make for our meals and then everybody has been talking about these pretzels. I think they were introduced sometime last year. I didn't get any but I saw them at my store today so definitely wanted to give those a try and they're seasoned with garlic and onion. I got Harrison some graham crackers because he loves graham crackers and then I grabbed some artisan jerky. I've never tried this before I've seen it they had several other flavors but this is the one I think Howard and I would like the most and it is pork and it's spicy garlic and then I grabbed two bags of this Argentine red shrimp and they it's a 16 ounce bag and it was $9.99 a bag which is a really good deal because I normally get these Argentine red shrimp from Kroger and I think there's like 13 or 14 dollars a bag so I thought that was a really good deal. One of their special finds for this week was the eight ounce containers of the onion powder and garlic powder so I grabbed one of each and then Howard really likes like cheesy potatoes hash grounds things like that. I'm not a huge fan of them but I did grab this box because I thought it would be good for a breakfast for dinner meal and then the last thing that I grabbed were these caramel coconut fudge cookies they were $1.29. They are the knockoff of the Girl Scout cookies and I haven't had them in a long time. So anyway this is all that I picked up for my quick fill-in haul. I hope you guys enjoyed this video if you did please give us a thumbs up and if you have not subscribed to our channel I certainly hope you'll do so. Thanks so much for watching and we'll see you guys next time.


Joining us is our resident film critic, Michael Snyder. These are the movies he's going to be talking about today. Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Men, Tell No Tales, Baywatch, War Machine, Berlin Syndrome, Long Strange Trip, and The Journey. Hey, Johnny Depp is broke. He requires $2 million a month to live on. Even after he's paid off amber herd, he still needs $2 million a month to live on. You and I can live on half of that.  Well, was Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Men, Tell No Tales crafty for you? Oh, my God. This is a franchise that may very well have worn out its wacky welcome. I guess it's the fifth movie of these Pirates of the Caribbean films and, you know, even though it's subtitled Dead Men, Tell No Tales, Johnny Depp's career is a dead man walking and it told this tale and maybe it's just that, you know, we're a little burned out on him. This has been his cash cow. The little films he's been making, the indie stuff or the bar and stuff hasn't really registered. And there's something about this fey, indolent, indestructible Captain Jack character that seems to keep the series rolling. You know, this movie, again, this is a franchise based on a Disneyland ride. It's the victim of the law of diminishing returns. And how many have they done? This is the fifth, the fifth film. It's unbelievable. And honestly, the truth is, this is one, and boy, talk about damning with faint praise. This is one of the better installments in the franchise, but the bar is pretty low. You know, I mean, the first film was a surprise and very entertaining, but they got more and more tedious and loaded with special effects. I mean, when the series started, Depp's drunken, the diffident Captain Jack was pretty hilarious. I mean, the idea of him inadvertently against his, you know, own better judgment or skills, somehow surviving against like supernatural foes and other pirates. The guy, that was kind of funny. He stumbles to success in sword fights. He survives ocean squalls. He goes up against, you know, sorcerous, magic fueled enemies. And there was this kind of, because of the falling over and stuff and his inebriation, kind of a silent film slapstick charm to it. That reminded me a little of, you know, Keaton and Lloyd, and maybe I'm giving Depp too much credit. I mean, he made me think of Jackie Chan's drunken master movies because that's another case where an actor basically fakes being allowed and, you know, and incompetent, but somehow survives. But I think that Depp is increasingly on autopilot in the series. I know he's grateful that the money's coming in because of what you said. But let's just say that he's navigating without a sextant. He's almost an afterthought in the film, to be honest with you, the new one. The thrust of it is this young guy trying to save his father. And his father is the Orlando Bloom character of Will Turner from earlier in the series who has been eternally doomed to pilot the Flying Dutchman ghost ship. So the kid grows up and wants to save his dad. And the only way he can do that is to find a mystical relic, Neptune's Trident. And so the only way you can do that is to find Captain Jack and also maybe connect with this very smart and beautiful young woman.  In any event, they go on this treasure hunt and they encounter an opposition in the form of Javier Bardem, who was one of the best things about the movie. He's the ghostly villain, Salazar, who also wants to try it. And so he can become whole and human and alive again. Plus, Jeffrey Rush, an Oscar winner, is back as Captain Barbosa, who was kind of a more nuanced antagonist from earlier in the series. So you've got these veteran actors and the young leads, Brenton Thwaite and Kaius Goldario. You can't pronounce her name, but she's incredibly likable. And you've got some good set pieces, some of them are CGI and some of them are practical. But maybe there's just too, too many of these. And I think there's been four or too many of the films. You know, the film ends and it could be wrapping up the series in a nice little bow and then an end credit sequence. Hints that were not done with the films, nor with Jack Sparrow quite yet. I don't know.  Something I don't want to watch. Time to talk about Baywatch. Yay or nay watch, Michael Snider? Nay watch. I mean, I never watched, nor did I ever care to watch the original and seemingly ridiculous TV series Baywatch. I mean, this was a phenomenon of the 90s. I think it started in 89 or 88. International markets. This TV program, which was, I don't know, crime fighting, lifeguards living in an idealized sunny California. I don't know how else to describe it. This show turned David Hasselhoff and Pamela Anderson into stars. And Hasselhoff became like gigantic in some markets, particularly as we all now know, Germany. Germans love David Hasselhoff. Who was it who used to say that? Norm MacDonald. He used to use that as a quip now and again on SNL. But it's true. And Hasselhoff played this lifeguard named Mitch Buchanan who led these busty and beautiful babes and a couple of guys in the lifeguard crew in all these various adventures. So why do you want to remake or make a movie based on this idiocy? Well, I'll tell you why, because Hollywood has no comfort with original ideas. And there's the old proof of concept. This thing was successful back in the day. It's kind of like why they made the Adams Family movies, you know, based on a TV show that was based on a cartoon. Those films were clever because the people involved were smart and the scripts were good and the actors were good. This, on the other hand, not so much. There's the camp and the nostalgia stuff. And they take a guy who has somehow continued to be great box office in most of the films he's done, unlike Johnny Depp. And they put this guy in the lead and it's Dwayne The Rock Johnson. So he's everybody's favorite. And he's everywhere lately. And so they decide they're going to make an action comedy based on the TV series, emphasis on the comedy. Unfortunately, none of it is any good. Dwayne Johnson is Mitch Buchanan. And he uncovers a criminal plot that threatens the future of the Bay that they're watching, I guess. Anyway, you also get Zac Efron, the back use pretty boy, a good actress and a lovely woman, Priyanka Chopra, Alexandra Daddario, a young actress of limited skill, but easy on the eyes, and a few other appropriate choices and supporting roles. But man is this unfunny and is this feeble. You will choke over the lowbrow jokes as the Baywatch gang, including, of course, a few hotties, that seem more like Hooters waitresses in red one-piece bathing suits than actual lifeguards. I mean, if they were serving me drinks on the beach, I might take interest. But anyway, they seek new recruits, including a disgraced alcoholic Olympic swimming champ played by Zac Efron. And there's a chubby tech nerd who needs an inner tube or a lifejacket in the kiddie pool, but they need comic relief from all of this non-comedy.  It is sheer idiocy.   This one is a sneering designer clothes real estate magnate and a drug dealer played by Priyanka Chopra. And you got Johnson doing his usual shtick without any of the charm he sometimes displays. How shall I put this? Here, the rock does not roll.  Anyway, Baywatch, don't watch. Is that it? Is that the easiest blurb we can give you? War machine. Well, this is a different kettle of fish entirely. It's going for laughs in large part. And it is a movie with a pretty good pedigree, terrific cast, an interesting bit of source material, and is available for you to watch on Netflix or you can go see it in the theater. And it's not bad, but it's not anywhere near as great and as interesting as I hoped it would be. It's directed and written by David Michaud and it's based on a book called The Operator, The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America's War in Afghanistan by Michael Hastings. And what it does is it follows an arrogant and modern but kind of old school general played by Brad Pitt. And by the way, Brad Pitt excels in these sort of ambivalent anti-heroic lunatic characters and follows him as he's brought in as the Obama administration attempts to withdraw troops from Afghanistan and yet continue to beat back the Taliban and win the hearts and minds of the Afghani citizenry. So he's accompanied by a crew of aides and fellow soldiers, one of whom is Anthony Michael Hall, who's almost like a bodyguard type, and boy, he has become a burly chunk in his old age. You also get that? From Saturday Night Live, Anthony Michael Hall? Yeah, from that, from the breakfast club when he was a skinny little kind of Archie Andrews type. Yeah, man, same guy. He's a big, thuggish fellow now. You say like beefing up, working out, lifting weights? Yeah, but he's beyond beef. He's gone beyond the beef. Where's the beef? Well, it's right there on Anthony Michael Hall's body. You have to pay a royalty now to Clara Pellar's grandchildren for my birthday. Sorry about that. Where's the beef? Well, you also get Ben Kingsley, who's here as Karzai, which is a kind of very funny droll performance on his part. Topher Grace plays basically a media guy brought in to spiff up whatever news reports are coming up about General Glenn McMahon and his attempt to take over this Afghani Theater of War for the combined Allied forces that are there. You have all of the interplay and the friction between the various countries that have banded together to help America in a task of bringing freedom to the Afghanis. Alan Ruck plays one of the civilian meddlers that the government has sent in, but ultimately it's Brad Pitt who is, you know, he makes the movie fail or succeed. And I kind of enjoyed it, but it just seemed like it started to sag in the middle and it wasn't anywhere near as funny as I wanted to have coming from the talent involved.   You see them at camp. You see them out in the field. And I kind of wish it was a sharper satire or something. But you do get a good sense of what modern warfare is like. And, you know, I mean, it's dysfunctional when you think about it, but it's also really amazing to see something like this. It is the antithesis of those classic war movies, the saving Private Ryan's and even movies from way earlier in Hollywood history. I enjoyed it. I just wish it had been better. It has good intentions, but it just wasn't sharp enough and funny enough. When you see a film like Wag the Dog about the political aspects of the war machine, not to use that phrase, you know, in an ill-advised way, that to me is a piece of brilliance. I hope that this would be as sharp and as topical as that. It is somewhat topical, particularly as we face this idiocy on the governmental level these days, but it just wasn't what I hoped it would be. Berlin Syndrome. This is actually the best film of the films we've discussed so far. And it's the movie you're least likely to see in your local theaters and the movie probably you wouldn't necessarily jump to see. On the other hand, I thought it was really terrific. I believe the director, Kate Shortland, is an Australian. Her lead actress is Teresa Palmer. And Teresa Palmer is generally a young blonde who's in teen exploitation films or was or plays the hot young college girl or the female lead in some sort of young romance. And she's frequently performed with an American accent and you wouldn't know that she's from down under. But here she plays a real Australian girl, kind of a salt of the earth girl who's decided she's going to pursue her photography instead of a dead-end job back home and she's going to see the world. So she takes off for a visit to Berlin, which is one of the great and most exciting capitals in all the world and certainly in Europe. And there she meets a local guy who was a teacher of English, a German guy who teaches English in Berlin, and he kind of takes up with her and she takes up with him. And it seems kind of cool and romantic and she's taken her photographs and then you find out that there's something very, very sinister about the guy.  The thriller, Berlin Syndrome, doesn't do what you expect it's going to do at the very beginning, but there are little clues that things aren't what they should be. And I don't know if you've ever seen the movie The Collector that starred Samantha Agar as a woman who was basically kidnapped by a guy who's obsessed with her and locked up. And it's based on a book by John Fowles who also wrote The French Lieutenant's Woman. And this movie, Berlin Syndrome, is kind of a modern equivalent to The Collector. You know, if you want to be creeped out, you need a good villain. And Max Reimelt, who is a German actor who I haven't seen before, I don't believe, is first rate as Andy, this guy that Claire, the Aussie photographer girl, falls in with. And man, it is a creep show. I thought it was exciting and tense and entirely plausible. I mean, Berlin is such a big sprawling metropolis and all this building is going on there, so there are all these nooks and crannies. Since the wall came down there's massive real estate development. So various neighborhoods are, you know, kind of almost deserted or in the process of being rebuilt. So it's kind of easy, I think, to lose somebody in this massive urban maze. I thought that Berlin Syndrome was a terrific surprise and I think people should seek it out even if they only end up seeking it out on streaming. It's disturbing, well done, and clearly Theresa Palmer's best performance so far. She actually, her hair is dark in this, brunette, and she made me think if Kristen Stewart was an actress to really conjure, and she's done some good work lately, this is, she's like Kristen Stewart's slightly more attractive sister and maybe slightly better actress. Long strange trip. Well, this is the untold story of the Grateful Dead, or that at least is the subtitle of the movie's title and it's the most enormous and impressive and prodigious rock documentary about a band that's probably ever been made. How prodigious? It's 239 minutes long. And it was picked up for distribution and availability online by Amazon. So I think you can probably pay to see it that way. But I would recommend if you're a fan of the Grateful Dead, the San Francisco-based progressive rock band that turned into a worldwide phenomenon with, you know, thousands upon, millions of dead heads, crazily devoted fans. If you like the stuff, seeing it in a movie theater with a big, big sound system might be the way to go. Now, despite its length and all of its copious detail, there are some kind of holes in the story and people that are sort of not given the attention you might see. And that's, you know, over 200 minutes worth of footage. And archival footage and concert footage I think that's probably never been seen before. Interviews, stills, great historical detail about the band and how they came together, keying on their lead guitarist, their virtuoso lead guitarist, and one of the band's two primary singers, Jerry Garcia, now sadly departed. And then we also learned kind of the why and the how of that as well. And we see a parade of their fans and we see talking head vignettes of people that you'll know, famous and otherwise, that speak about the band and what the band meant to them. This was executive produced by Martin Scorsese. And it was also directed by Amir Barlev, who directed the Tillman story, which is a pretty great documentary about Spencer Tillman. And it shows you what can happen on a grassroots level if someone has talent and determination and never stops performing and creating. This is kind of an impressive saga and it'll definitely be of interest to their fans. And I think if people are curious and have a love of adventurous music and patience, this has really got a lot of gems and it's a worthwhile experience. But you have to be a fan of popular music, I think. And this is, you know, this is a very unique and specific sound. One that spawned something called the jam band scene, which includes groups like Fish. But these guys are the granddaddies of that. And you really are immersed in the Grateful Dead over the course of this thing. And this is a group, this is a 30 year stretch that these guys have been around and kicking.  But you can relive some of his great moments and the tragedy of his life over the course of this film. Again, Long Strange Trip, which is actually the excerpt of Lyric from one of their more famous songs. By the way, before we get to the journey, comedian Michael Meehan has a movie that came out. Do you know that? I heard that that was the case. I have not seen it, nor have I been invited to check it out, nor do I know anything about it. But Mike Meehan is a very talented band.  No, I read a great review of it and I contacted him, so I'm trying to get him to come on the show. The Journey. What's it about before we get to The Journey, you know? It's about San Francisco and it's a, I guess it's a film noir. It stars a lot of comics. Including The Brown. Comedians. And Kevin Mead. Oh, how nice. Well, there you go. Tell me about The Journey. I can't tell you much about The Journey. I just wanted to bring it up because I noticed an interesting thing about it. It doesn't open in the United States for another couple weeks. And it's basically a fictional account of what may or may not have happened when two guys on either side of the Irish peace process, the Democratic Unionist Party leader, a guy named Ian Paisley, who was also a reverend and the Sinn Fein politician, Martin McGinnis, if they took a car ride during the middle of the peace talks, what might have happened in that car ride? They had never really met before in real life and I think they do take a short journey together or did in the past, but no one knows what went down as they traveled together and had to interact on a personal level for the first time. This was a very major turning point in world politics when the troubles, if you will, the horrible conflict between the Protestants and Catholics over the government purview of the British in Northern Ireland when that thing came to a head in the early 2000s, or the mid-2000s. This thing, all I will tell you is that I love the film and Timothy Spall as Paisley and Colm Meany as McGinnis are absolutely great and there's terrific supporting work on Freddie Highmore and now late John Hurt, probably one of the last films he did, but in Ireland the reviews were less than kind. Elsewhere where it has been reviewed, it's been getting very positive notices and I wanted to bring that up because I think there's a kind of a cultural and national imperative in a situation like this when something is so close to home and so much of a tragedy and so deeply ingrained in the culture. I think it's hard to look at it with eyes that aren't going to be affected by the prejudice one has built up over the years. It's amazing to note that the Irish reviews have been sort of negative or off-put. These people have not been pleased with it. I know one UK reviewer thought that the movie was misguided to dramatize the meeting. I on the other hand thought it was pretty good but it just struck me as interesting noticing the disparity between the Irish and UK reviews and everywhere else that people have reviewed it so far. Again, it doesn't open for another couple weeks in the States so I would just as soon restrain myself from any more discussion other than to say two fantastic actors at the height of their powers. Before you go, let's turn to sports.  Tell me about Colin Kaepernick. Well, they let Colin Kaepernick go and as anyone who pays any attention to the news probably noticed over the past years there's been a lot of controversy over the 49ers at that point, long-time quarterback Colin Kaepernick. He is half black, half white. He's got a big old Afro and he has taken a political stance over the past year or so to support such groups as Black Lives Matter to point out the racism that's still inherent in this country and he initially brought attention to it by kneeling during the national anthem during exhibition games and eventually even regular season games over the past season and this caught on. Other high school teams were doing it. Other players did and support players on rival teams where there was bad blood between the 49ers and the rival team. Members of the Seahawks, the 49ers arch enemies in the National Football Conference Western Division supported Kaepernick in this and the Patriots including the Bonehead who's currently in the Oval Office railed against him and the far right and the middle right railed against him and anyone who fancied themselves a blitheringly chauvinistic patriotic type here in America thought that it was sinful to disrespect the national anthem as opposed to embracing the freedom of speech and freedom of expression that allows us to essentially protest things in our own country to oppose certain ideas, to question things on the authoritarian level, but people went crazy. Actually I was surprised by the number of people who didn't go crazy. I'm surprised by the number of fellow teammates and as you said members of the NFL who joined him and how it's spread. Well that was heartening in a way. I love America. I am an American born and bred. I believe in our system. I believe in the country. At least I try to considering what's been happening lately. But the truth of it is that I don't take any... I don't think that standing for the anthem or singing along denotes any great patriotism. It's what you do with your life and how you treat your fellow American and fellow human being that is the true judge of your character. So I found it really disingenuous for all these winers and haters, people who truly are the sort of folks that Kaepernick is protesting against all those guys were yelling how disrespectful it was and I mean the Supreme Court didn't they already throw out the flag burning as a felony or whatever it was. So I think kneeling during the national anthem or refusing to sing the national anthem, that's peanuts man. So anyway the reason it's fresh in my mind at the moment is I just encountered this interesting piece of information. John Mara and by the way it does have a connection to movies and TV and show business. John Mara who basically is the owner and I believe the son, maybe the grandson of Wellington Mara, longtime New York football giants owner-operator. John Mara says he would not even think of signing the currently out of the league Colin Kaepernick who by the way again statistically had a good season in the previous National Football League season and can't get a job. And Roger Goodell who was the head of the NFL has said this is due to football issues not political issues. Well John Mara just came out and said he would not sign the guy before he even considered it. He got letter after letter from season ticket holders and fans saying that they would jump ship on the giants if he would ever sign this vile, traitorous Colin Kaepernick to a football contract in the coming season. And I just was sort of dumbstruck about this. Oddly enough the only team that has been sniffing around the guy right now, the Seattle Seahawks, the 49ers long time rivals who have a quarterback who plays a style similar to Kaepernick and people have long compared Russell Wilson and Kaepernick particularly when the two of them were the quarterbacks in one first Kaepernick and then Wilson in Super Bowls a few years back. And of course Wilson won his Super Bowl, Kaepernick did not and there their careers diverged. But I find it amazing that Mara has gone on record now to say oh no our fans would not like this so I would not even think of doing this. Blind patriotic bull makes me crazy and I will just say that John Mara is I believe the father of actress Kate Mara and her sister actress Rooney Mara who are also the grandchildren of long time Pittsburgh Steelers owner Art Rooney and the Rooney family. So there's a weird connection here and by the way Kate Mara in a very interesting Middle Eastern war zone film coming up soon that we will review at some point but you know she's good but I mean wow I mean wow all I'm saying is wow what do you do about something like this? Well I think 30 years from now Colin Kaepernick will look back and be proud of what he did as long as he no longer plays football because if he continues to play football he won't remember what he did. You've been sitting and waiting to see this. Yes I have been and I stumbled through. I'm sorry I took so long to allow you. We're up against the clock here. Michael Snyder is our resident film critic. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you sir. Yep.


Good afternoon, Houston. I'm Tom Jones, mission specialist on the space shuttle Columbia on mission STS-80 here on the flight deck of Columbia. We're about 220 miles above the surface of the earth, eastward across the western Pacific Ocean now at a speed of about five miles every second, about 17,000 miles an hour. We're on the fifth day of our mission. We had a very successful deploy of two satellites so far in the flight. They're trailing us in formation. Out there behind us we just saw them in the windows a few moments ago. One's an astronomy satellite and one is a material science satellite, helping us understand how to make higher performance semi-conducting materials for the electronics industry in space. Our astronomy mission is out there looking at stars throughout the universe, looking especially at very hot objects in the universe. Black holes, white dwarf stars and the cool gases that float in between those bright hot stars and our own world. We're finding out a lot about the universe and our own future in space with those two satellites out there. Columbia also is a flying research laboratory in its own right. We have a lot of experiments going on downstairs even as we speak. In the mid-deck we're looking at an experiment called UCPL and that's a heat transfer device that could be used on future satellites. Out in the payload bay we have some research experiments going on too. One in particular I'd like to talk to you about today is called Space Experiment Module or SEM. And the purpose of the Space Experiment Module is to inspire and excite the young people down there on our own planet today to look for a better education for themselves and perhaps careers in math and science and space exploration one day. But we have a more direct way to inspire people today by using our research facilities on the Columbia and that's with the Space Experiment Module. It gives students a chance to actually participate in experiments in space. And we hope that that will give students around the country a hands-on opportunity for a learning experience that will inspire their future careers in math and science and space exploration. We hope the Space Experiment Module work will spur them to a greater interest in career fields that will all benefit from one day. And generally we hope that this will just lead students to perform better in school and take a greater interest in their own education. Now let me give you some facts about the Space Experiment Module. It's about the size of a large trash can and it flies out in the payload bay of Columbia. It weighs about 700 pounds and has about five cubic feet of usable volume. Inside the field canister, which is just like a getaway special that we fly on other missions, is a pressure of one atmosphere. So inside the can we have a weightless environment but one that's pressurized to the same atmosphere we have on Earth. And the Space Experiment Module teaches kids to use the tools of science to explore the world around them. And it gives teachers the opportunity to use a new way to teach science and math and inspire students with real space activities. Students use this lab on Columbia to do experiments in the payload bay and they as a result get hands-on experience with a real working experiment that they construct themselves with NASA's help. And NASA provides a laboratory, if you will. We provide the laboratory workbench, the Bunsen burners, the test tubes, the electricity, even the computers for the students to do their experiments just like we would in a laboratory on the Earth. Here those facilities are in the Space Experiment Module and the students then provide the imagination, the ideas for the experiments, and the energy to carry them out. And we hope after these 16 days in orbit the Space Experiment Module will return a lot of successful and exciting results to all of the young experimenters across the country that are participating. Now NASA here provides some basics for the Space Experiment Module. Here's the students' small module. We have 10 of those that fit inside the can outside the payload bay. It's a mounting plate, really, that the students can build their experiment on. And we also provide a ground electronics module that interfaces the computer commanding or the electronic measurements back into the recording devices and computers aboard the Space Experiment Module. And the students can use that mounting plate and electronics capability to construct whatever kind of experiment they'd like. We have 10 experiments on STS-80. 7 of them are active in that they use the microgravity environment of space to record actual measurements about their materials in the environment. And 3 of them are passive. In other words, we're just testing the effects of microgravity on some materials and they'll be examined upon their return to Earth. Let me give you some examples of the kinds of material we have on board. From Albion Junior High School in Ohio, we have a heat transfer experiment where students heat up one end of a copper rod and the copper rod is actually instrumented to measure heat flow down the length of the metal rod. The metal rod is actually made of stacks of pennies. So we have some pennies stacked up that we're heating up out in the cargo bay right now. We also have a group from Albion that's flying some bacterial experiments. We're looking at bacterial growth in a series of 6 test tubes. And the growth changes in terms of color can be recorded in the module during the flight here. We have a can-do group of experimenters from Charleston, South Carolina, and they have a series of experiments. One is measuring the shuttle's own accelerations in space by using a pendulum that's balanced very carefully and it can measure the shocks and shakes on the shuttle from our thruster firings as we station keep with our two satellites. We have some more bacteria growth cultures provided by that group. And they're also growing some crystals in microgravity using solutions of salt and alum, some common household materials we have on the ground. And those crystal growth patterns will be recorded in the module. We're even measuring Earth's magnetic field with a series of iron filings that are shaken up in a small chamber and that we hope will align themselves in the magnetic field of the Earth and they can be imaged while we're here in microgravity to see if those field lines are visible. Norfolk, Virginia and Pocassan, Virginia, we have a group of experimenters that are looking at how immiscible materials, materials that don't mix on Earth like oil and vegetable, vegetable oil and water, behave in the microgravity environment of space. So they're mixing salt, water and vegetable oil and then seeing how those two materials separate out. And from Greenbrook North High School in Illinois, we have a surface tension experiment where fluids are spread on a slick surface of paper and we're watching how that fluid beads up and how surface tension drives the behavior of that liquid. These are all active experiments that we have on space experiment modules. We have some college experimenters from Purdue University looking at fluid thermal convection and how fluids transfer heat without gravity to cause convection as we know it on Earth. And they also are raising some brine shrimp on a little shrimp farm out in the space experiment module. Some of the materials in our past experiments include seeds from both trees and tomato plants.  And they'll be examined for how the microgravity environment changes those materials while they've been in flight. Here's some silly putty I've brought on board myself to show you some kinds of behavior that we might expect to see in a putty type material on orbit. You can see it's pretty easy to manipulate and quite interesting to watch. And I hope the space experiment module experimenters will get some sort of similar satisfaction when they get to watch their experiments on return to Earth. Well, that's a short summary of what the space experiment module does and what we hope it will do for our useful experimenters back on Earth. We know that the space experiment module experiments will fly again with different groups of student experimenters from across the country. We look forward to those opportunities on the shuttle in the future. The space experiment module is a good example of how the space program inspires our young people to better education, how they can improve their own academic performance by using some exciting experiments that they can really get involved in. And I think it's just a nice example of how the space program in general can add educational opportunities and excitement to all sorts of subjects across the disciplines that we study in elementary and high schools and even college in our country. So it's a pleasure to work with the space experiment module on STS-80. And this is Tom Jones signing off to have some more fun with my own silly putty up here. I understand you had some excitement last night when you were attempting to launch a satellite that came within 10 feet of the cruise cabin. Was that a close call? Well, that was not a close call. This vehicle is an incredibly good flying machine in terms of relative motion. We have flown satellites like Intel sat right down in the payload bay and we routine in terms of rendezvous and proximity ops. We bring objects right down into the payload bay. If during a space walk we dropped some tool, we were able to fly that tool right down to the hand of the space walker so the hand can reach out and grab it. We have those kinds of capabilities. The thing we were up to yesterday was that for seven straight hours we did not fire a single jet on this vehicle to keep a pristine environment for the Wake Shield facility. We could have flown away at any time. The reason we hesitated and did exactly what we did was not to fire a jet and we had good view on that in television cameras and we let it float on by. You were told by NASA before you took off on this mission that this would be your last space flight in the program. Knowing that, has it changed the approach of the way you have viewed this mission emotionally? It has not. I'm such a long-term investor in this program. Space is my calling. Whether I'm on the ground or in flight or whatever my next participation in space flight will be I'm such a long-term investor that I know there'll be a continuity to it. It's been an incredible privilege to work for about 30 years both on the ground and in space and I also have the kind of imagination that I've had enough experience up here and the imagination will be able to put me up here in the future. Are there certain images of space though that you're trying to freeze in your mind so you simply just don't forget the magic of all of this? I work very hard on that all the time not only to technically do the job I need to do but to be in a way a parallel processor that has an experience of space. What is going on in the head? What is going on in the heart? What is going on in the soul? I'm having a human experience. I try to catch those experiences and bring them home and express that to other people such that they can vicariously also get into space and so that we as a space can evolve into being space creatures which we actually are. And so even on this flight here too now there are some images I could go over hundreds of them but just the picture of the Baja California the picture of Mexico is being embedded in my mind right now even though I've seen it many times before the look of Saudi Arabia, the Near East, the Nile swinging over the Himalayas as we've done multiple times those images are being implanted those experiences are being carried forward. As you look out the windows of the shuttle are you trying to concentrate on different things this time around for your collective memory?  We've never flown a four-body problem where you had an earth of space in two satellites before so to look out behind you and see the two satellites that you're working to see them follow along behind you is a unique experience. We recognize how fit you have to be to participate in this program but a lot of a lot has been made of the fact that you are 61 years old do you feel any differently physically on this mission than let's say you did on your first mission 13 years ago in space? It's pretty much the same as I told my colleagues here one of Tom Jones who's working over here that you spoke with on an earlier mission he was sitting next to me I had the easiest launch I've ever had I am usually pretty frightened during launches because I'm not a risk taker and I was frightened before this one by once we got underway I had total faith and confidence that it was going to take me into space I had the easiest launch I've ever had this time Does that mean you completely got rid of your butterflies as you lifted off? Well I don't get butterflies I just get scared I don't blame you I understand that one of your favorite things is to enjoy the weightlessness that you feel in space I'm wondering if you could give us any sense of what that might feel like or look like from this perspective? Yeah, Plotin is a delicious kind of thing to do because we as creatures are created and evolved here on earth we have been designed by that force between us and earth and now you have a unique environment that maybe we weren't designed to perceive or to live in and so that's what makes it totally unique but the three-dimensional orientation in which you can make that direction the down direction you can feel that this is down and feel that that is the ceiling and put that anywhere you would like eventually the idea of just as the engines are shutting down you can close your eyes and pull the main engine shut down and then you can free fall through the dark and I don't know if you've ever free-falled through the dark but that is one delicious experience to be able to simply fall through a dark environment forever I think I've done that in my dreams can you give us a demonstration right now of what weightlessness looks like? Oh, I don't have much you want but there's a real art in how you drop things perfectly once you put the model out to Tom this is the best example I got you've seen us spin things around and you've seen us throw things but I think there's still this kind of drop you do a good drop Tom that says as much as anything right there you've seen us play with water that's another good way to do it these things are moving now because there's an airflow Oh it looks extraordinary from here have any of the scientists at NASA been able to figure out what impact all this weightlessness you've experienced has had on your own body? But it's basically the free-flow condition in which your cardiovascular system there is picking up the bottom of the shuttle there things such as not having to use bones up here the cardiovascular system not having to move blood uphill and those kinds of... What maybe we could study more in the energy of space different kinds of perceptions of what's up and what's down I think that's where some of the exciting areas that we haven't explored too much that day will be really exciting One of the things that you have been quoted in the past about is being receptive to extra-terrestrial life Do you have any indication that exists or is that just an extension of your imagination? I have no physical evidence I've never seen a signature of intelligent beings out here I think it's a common sense rational individual as a scientist I know it's out there because you're dealing with billions and billions of galaxies I know there are other universes other than our own and a lot of this has been around for billions of years the probability is a certainty that it's out there and myself in terms of a human being who is part of the human species which is evolving to recognition of their place in the universe and what the universe is all about I try to acknowledge those living creatures out there and just simply take quiet moments and say, yes, I know you're out there and I also communicate in ways similar to prayer that if you hear me come get me but I have no physical evidence I have seen no signatures I'm also as grounded as anyone around I know that the probabilities are one trillionth or less that anyone is going to hear but I think it's important in terms of our evolution the way we think of ourselves to recognize that we are not alone We also recognize even though you will not fly in any more of these missions you will continue to be involved with NASA on an ongoing basis What is it that you think Americans should understand about the future of the space program particularly at a time when a lot of Americans seem to have doubts as to where this really is taking us particularly when they look at the vast amount of money that are spent on it I think we need to have a very far-reaching vision I think we need to conduct space for spaces not for any other reasons one is used for other reasons for the pursuit of space I think then we get off the track I'm always working kind of at the philosophical level I'm interested in the great big very long-term pictures I think space is very important for us as human beings to show us what our place in the universe is what it means to be human I think that is one of the most important reasons that we're into space is the quest the reach out there for meaning down here So I think we need to not only do the practical things but I think we need to have a very very far-reaching vision a unified vision and have that communicated and have a very solid path to pursue In closing tonight what is it that you think you will reflect upon most when you come back to Earth at the end of this mission knowing that this was your final mission in flight and that you are in fact the oldest astronaut to attempt what you have just done I'm very glad to be in space for the things that I am at the age that I am but the age is only coincident with the fact that I have had the incredible privilege of pursuing my calling for almost 30 years Space is not just a job and a life for me it's a calling it's something I believe in and it's something I have a passion for I have a heart for it and I've had the privilege and opportunity to do it for 30 years and so I love doing these kind of things at my age but the important thing is I have the privilege of doing it throughout my entire life time but I have had something which is a calling that I have had something in which the passions could push me and give me the energy to attempt to always do things perfectly Columbia for story surgeon tells us he has your albedo for your head on file we'd like to compare it to your current albedo so if everybody else can stand back a little bit we'll get a good feeling for it as it's increased substantially SDS, 80 probes are real magicians they can work on something which isn't there good teamwork we're good for another five days the students at Thames Elementary School Hattiesburg, Mr. Roy Musgrave MS3 on this flight we hear that being in space decreases the size of your bones and your heart do you feel any different when you come back to earth we certainly do out here floating around at zero gee, we don't need the bones that carry our weight they carry that force between us and the earth they carry our weight down there because we don't need the bones it's just like a muscle if you don't use your muscle the muscles tend to get smaller and weaker so not using your bones out here they tend to become smaller and a little less strong likewise with the heart the heart doesn't have to pump blood uphill against gravity you don't need to carry as much blood by them so those things diminish in size too when you come back to earth just like when you come into space you have to adapt to the space environment when you come back to earth you've gotten very used to space bones, muscles and hearts have started to adapt to space so they have to re-adapt to earth my name is Ken Cockrell and the third question the final question we have today from Thames Elementary we have played the CD-ROM software the magic school bus in the solar system to help us learn about space do you ever use computer for learning? well I'd say that we are surrounded by computers the space shuttle is run by five computers and in addition to that we have eight laptop computers that run various other aspects of our mission here with us on the flight deck so when we train for this mission we use computers all the time we use similar computers to the ones that are in the space shuttle in our simulators on the ground and we also can use the computers that we have at our desk to run various training programs to help us learn the details about our mission and about how the space shuttle operates so we certainly do use computers we use them a lot thanks for your question


Spooky town guys. It's spooky season and I've done a horrible job of uploading spooky season things or things at all But today we are in Mr. Hopps Playhouse I did try to record this already, but I had some troubles with the game. It was being all weird So starting anew we have the green screen back in my back I mean back from when I used it like 2015, but the green screen is back Oh spooky things anything can be on it one can be on it right now anyway new game Let's go. This is a game. I found on it. Yo about a little girl who has a spooky toy Dad can you take mr. Hopp tonight? He scares me. Oh He is a scary buddy.  What do Nana think of you saying that she made him just for you Grandma's dead and her soul is trapped inside the rabbit. I'll leave your nightlight on tonight. Try and get some sleep Then is haunting this rabbit. He's gone dad.  I need to find things collect things Stay away footsteps can be deafening. Make sure it's completely safe before coming out of hiding. We go. Is there anything up here? No spooky doll spooky stuff happens in no way Stan still to regain your stamina regain Rejuvenate.  I don't like eyes. I don't like those big eyes Please go away in the dark. I don't want to talk to you. I will kneel down I'll pray for your eyes to go away. Please go away. Hold on hold on There's no doorway at the end of that. How do I escape for mr. Hop if I cannot escape from mr. Hop, you know Let's go back down. Maybe we can go this way. We can we have a large home Use headphones and listen carefully to your surroundings. I don't hear anything. I made a noise. Mr. Hop will surely be here Mom and dad Mom dad, I told you not to paint the bed. It's bad. It stains everywhere. Mom and dad make your way back to bed back to bed back to bed About here What if we went here instead? There's nothing something in here, right? Hmm. Hmm. Nothing in here. Oh god. It's everything. Oh There he is. There's the big big boy. Mr. Hop.  You will be dead. Ask leave the house. Okay So we've got to find a way out of here. What was up there?  It was all a bad dream and went back to bed. Maybe it was a mistake Just mr. Hop look at me while I sleep task leave the house.  I got one and I didn't know that there were multiple endings That's really cool because back Back when I tried recording it. I got stuck in this place. We're like I Couldn't really do anything Okay, so we're not gonna go back to bed because that's already one ending we have completed Well, how do we get the other endings, you know Oh down to the basement Stay back there Hop try again. Okay, we're gonna wait until he's All the way that way Well, he's coming back. Okay. Where you going mr.  Good Excellent job Sarah Ruby Mom's he's was that you? Alright, well I have a key find Ruby's mother Some doors require a key. Is that the key? Did I use a key for that room? Oh Hold on wait. I want to check this anniversary 18th of April. Well, it's okay He don't like long dark hallways. I Don't hear him. Oh Why did I see him in the dark? It's sticky note attached reads under the mirror Fine tapes, so this is where I got last time where I got stuck And I think the game did a did a funny Because it wouldn't let me go anywhere at all But maybe I'm just dumb. This is a mirror.  I couldn't figure it out The guitar almost got me We found a tape September 8th Jenna Ruby and I went to see Astor yesterday Ruby always loved seeing a grandmother and as she calls her She's not been doing so well in recent monks. Ah, she did possess the Donnie We went around the other weekend and she was just staring at a wall We had to really shake her to snap out of it.  It was supposed to be recording ideas for a new novel any tapes in the parents room, huh? Do we have? Okay, so the key Do we have an inventory or anything? I? Guess we don't I Guess not I guess not So is my task to find the tapes or is my task to get out? Well find another tape September 14th Jenna and I stopped to see Astor again today The place was filthy. I'm not sure how it would have gotten so bad so quickly This doesn't seem to be keeping herself clean either and it's almost like she didn't recognize us appointment is tomorrow just worried she might have to go into care keep this documented I hope Rosie Ruby doesn't have to see her like this well Did she turn into mr. Hop his grandma hop like not only her spirit But the bunny herself did she turn into a rabbit? I'm back at my room No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we've got things to do Whoa big arm Is this a new part of the game now where he just reaches through the wall? Because I don't like that at all another tape September 15th as of recording this Esther's in the hospital her neighbors called the police in the early hours of the morning Because they could hear her screaming she'll be there for a few days told Ruby that she fall that she had fallen And that she's okay. We're waiting on a diagnosis She was not doing good Not at all. Oh another tape September 17th We took Ruby to the hospital to see her Nana Esther made a soft toy for her called mr. Pop Mr. Hop a small rabbit Esther always knitted her clothes and toys Ruby was thankful But I must admit this toy does have a look to it something quite unsettling Will we find the truth? Is it for ma?  Slendy, what are you doing in here, mister? You're part of this universe.  I Had no idea you were here. So I haven't seen him in such a long time He's been what few years in it. It's gonna be real quick. See if there's a Sweet boy for us. There is there is Hey, sweet boy September 19th. We've just had a call Esther passed away in her sleep The doctors wouldn't give us a diagnosis and he even said the sudden passing is bizarre We have to tell Ruby when she gets home from school. This isn't going to be easy on any of us All right Ruby Time for you to know the truth about Nana. I've a feeling that there's gonna be a tape in the in the bedroom Or maybe in the parents room Probably the parents room I guess let's see if we can get back there Yeah, what the fuck? Excuse me.  Fighter all right, I'm assuming that I won't have to Still coming What do I do do I go back in there was a tape there? Okay, it was all my imagination for sure for sure for sure September 22nd Ruby says that mr. Hop toy creeps her out But it's the only thing that she has to remember her grandmother by keep hearing bumps in the night Somebody's walking around and the scaring Jenna and I keep a handgun in the safe But I'm considering keeping it closer to me lock that room so Ruby can't get to it Keeps the key under a house plan in the hallway. I think dude.  Hop Keep a handgun in the safe. Where's the safe? We lock that room so Ruby can't get to it. Oh Keep the key under a house plan. So I think Find the key haven't I already found the key? What was that key for anyway? This house plant Is it this house plant? Nope. It's gonna be a house plant Way far away for sure What house plant is it under? There we go finally Finally it's gonna make it back to mom and dad's room, right? That's where we got to go Wait for mr. Hop to pass Risky business boy risky business. Okay. I'm assuming it's this room. Was there another room that was locked in? We did it. We got in there. Oh Oh wait 04 18 18 is it not?  What's the number? I would think that it would be Their anniversary April April 18th, right? That's what it was Maybe it's There it is. It was backwards. I got the gun Find mr. Hop. What are you bitch? Do I have a limited ammo? Come here.     Who could actually what do I do now? It's actually kind of creepy being able to walk through here making so much noise What do I do?  You're dead.  Hop ruby play with me. Oh, no. Oh, no, it's getting closer It's getting closer and closer Run Ruby run. Did we get out? On police drop the gun at what if Ruby gets shot?  They think that she murdered her parents. Oh No What if she did did she murder the parents Ruby escaped, but she probably Got sent to some sort of facility because they probably they she ran out of the house with a gun They probably thought that she murdered her parents Anyway, I'm gonna end this one here. Please don't murder your parents. That's not a good thing to do This was a fun little indie game. I like that a lot. Let me know if you have any other spookies Ow, I bit my dog spooky suggestions and I'll see you guys in the next video. So Thanks for watching. See you soon. Love you