All right, so there is a new sensor on the Galaxy Note 10 Plus and some of you thinking well it's also got three sensors or actually four sensors that we've seen before and we've seen that on Galaxy S10 and S10 Plus line but that time of flight sensor and all the new features make something quite unique on the Galaxy Note 10 Plus. This is what this video will be about. This is not a full camera test. I'm not doing that because my buddy Marian Cell is on vacation so we might not get to the Galaxy Note. Sorry guys, so I wanted to give you something that you actually get to see what this camera can do and I got some help from a few friends actually showcase awesome of this for you. Before we get in guys, don't forget to subscribe to the channel, hit the notification bell and let's dive into the camera. So as I mentioned there's a time of flight sensor. What that brings to the table is live focus video. Very few devices do that. The 855 processor supports it. The time of flight sensor adds to it and gives you something unique, different and fun. Samsung has four different bokeh modes to give you that bokeh background while you use it and it's fun so take a quick look. Alright so shooting a live focus video we've got four options to switch from. There's blur, there's color point, there's kind of like massive blur background and then there's like a 70s TV look. Each one is very different and gives you a very different look altogether. So I'm going to switch between each one. This is color point so of course I'm in color everything behind me is in black and white. Works pretty well when you move it should move with you so you get the idea of what it is. So this is big circle. This is the first one after blur. You can also move that slider to give it a very different feel and also gives you a good idea of what it actually looks like. And the glitch. I like glitch. Glitch is a nice one. Gives you that retro feel. It's also very windy here but the Galaxy Note 10 mic is 10 plus mic also is really good to pick it up but you get idea of what that retro feel is like with this and what it does. Now the other feature I do like on this device is the zoom in mic. This is something that at least I know LG's had for a while. The V series has had that for quite a long time and I'm glad Samsung's finally acknowledged and putting this on here especially even though Samsung mics are really good. I love the way the mic works. The zoom in mic feature is easy to use. It's in the settings menu. It's actually turned on but you can turn it off I believe and it just works by the selecting in the zoom into the object you're talking to. So here's a quick example of what the microphone from the Galaxy Note 10 plus does and also this Shun 4K 60. You can see how stabilization works in the Note 10 plus as well. So I'm testing out the zooming mic on the Galaxy Note 10 plus. It's very noisy. There's people honking. It's also windy up here but you will hear how clearly my voice gets to you. So I like that. There's also some drilling and construction which all that is kind of drowned out because you can hear me precisely. So I like that with the Galaxy Note 10 plus. It's really good. Plus shooting with the wide angle lens is nice. I can do this at my arm's length and you guys get a good idea of what's going on but it's pretty nice. It's a pretty solid microphone. I'm gonna walk closer to where most of that noise is coming from so you can hear it the noise and also hear me. I'm actually going over hurdles right now but again the zooming mic is really really good straight to the point and very clear. So let's go ahead and check out more features on this camera. A new feature on the camera has been added to the S-Bend with air gestures. Being able to use the S-Bend like a wand to navigate through the menu, left or right, taking images which is something we had last year with the S-Bend is so easy. You press and swipe left or right. Press and swipe left or right each time. You can zoom in or zoom out. So it is a nice feature and I think one a lot of people use in large group settings. As I mentioned I asked some friends to help me with some photos and my buddy Gadget's boy and SuperSaf took some photos with the Galaxy Note 10 plus. You can see the images that they've taken they look really nice. The colors look good, yes it's in daylight. Gadget's boy is a really good photographer anyway so he does a really good job with this and it shows with this device how good, how crisp the photos are in daytime. We're going to try and share more photos for you to give you but so far images look good and it's really all it's probably one of the best all-round balanced smartphone cameras and I think that's what a lot of people tend to miss is that you know you have questions who has the best video I would say the iPhone who has the best photo I would say the P30 who has the best of both to meet the Galaxy device. It may not be number one in both areas but I think it brings the best if you need a camera that handles both at the same time. So those are my quick thoughts on the camera and showing you samples features all that fun stuff. Let me know what you guys think leave your comments down below check out more of our Galaxy Note 10 videos there'll be a lot of stuff for you guys to check out we've got a full gaming video set like kind of like a game review did some game more gaming on this bad boy so stay tuned for that some how-to stuff and yeah don't forget to like share subscribe and always enjoy entertainment


Hi everybody, Sean with jaspyscasebrakes.com, here doing a personal break for Matt. 2017, Anini Donra's Optic Football Fat Packs. We're going to do four. He's already picked out his packs. Now we just got to rip them and see what we have. Good luck, Matt. Let's see a haul up. Eddie Lacey, Carson Palmer, Pierre Garçon, Jared Goff. Oh, I got really excited there for a second. Davis Webb, JJ Watt, Kevin Benjamin, Mike Lennon, Marcus Muriota, Melvin Gordon, and Jordy Nelson. That arm, that arm up with the football, that gave me like a little mini heart attack right there. You could see that it was hollow. You could see it was a rated rookie and you could see the right arm up with the ball. My God. Robbie Anderson, Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Tyrod, AJ Green, DD Westbrook, rated rookie, Vaughn Miller. This one we're looking for Patrick Mahomes. You also have the Sean Watson in this class, Leonard Fournette, but we're looking for Patrick Mahomes. We've got synchronized dancing in the stands in time, so nearly distant and responsible. Why do they call it a game summary? What summarizes the game? DD Love, Chinese student in Green Bay, Brian Hoyer, Deandre Hopkins, Adrian Peterson, Deshaun Jackson, T. Y. Hilton, Stefan Diggs, Tajé Sharp, his third hit in the game. Ken Newton, Kurt Cousins, Alan Robinson, Antonio Brown, and Brandon Marshall. JR, it's been really nice. Oh, Eddie Lacy, yeah. I feel like if I was Eddie Lacy though, I'd be like, I've eaten everything I wanted all my life.  Isaiah Cruell, Jordan Howard, Corey Coleman, Amari Cooper, Alex Smith, Elijah McGuire, Rookie Hollow, Richard Sherman, Allen Hearns, Lamar Miller, Des Bryant, Tavon Austin, and Carlos Hyde. So, Matt, that was the break. No Pat Mahomes in that, those four, but thanks for giving it a shot. And that was a four-pack 2017 Panini Don Russ Optic Football Fat Pack break for Matt. I'm Sean with jaspyscasebreaks.com and jaspys.com, jaspys.com, where you can get all your personal breaks from us, jaspys case breaks, where you get into group and case breaks. We'll see you next time.


In this video, we will begin working on the annotated bibliography for your research project. The purpose of an annotated bibliography is to organize your research in a meaningful way. An annotated bibliography is an organizing tool that helps researchers compile sources in one location and provides the researcher with quick access to the information contained in each source. You have already used the opposing viewpoints database to choose a controversial topic and develop a working thesis statement. Now you will need to gather some sources. For this assignment, you are asked to locate three sources within the opposing viewpoints database that are useful in helping you support your thesis. If you need a refresher on how to locate opposing viewpoints, start off at the library home page by clicking quick links on the IRSC homepage and then libraries. On the library website, click databases by subject. You will be asked to log in using your student ID as your borrower ID and your PIN will be the month and day of your birthday in MMDD format. If you were born on July 4th, your PIN will be 0704. Opposing viewpoints is located under current events. Once you are in the database, start your search process. For this example, let's say that your working thesis is related to the negative impact of social media on mental health. To begin your search, return to the browse issues button that you used when developing your thesis. From here, you can select social media to see an overview of all the different sources that opposing viewpoints contains related to the subject. You can then use the search within feature to search for keywords related to your thesis. Remember that you will not have success entering your entire thesis statement into the search box. Instead, try to select relevant keywords that are related to your argument. For this example, let's start with the keyword depression because it relates to the working thesis about the role social media plays in mental health.  And remember, you can always contact a librarian in persistence. As you can see, this search brings a large number of results sorted by content type. If I click on news and browse my results, I find an article titled just released, Parents Guide to Social Media and Mental Health. And I think this may help support my thesis statement. If I click on this title, I will be able to read the article in full, view related articles using the explore feature, and email a copy of the article to myself. We highly recommend that you email articles relevant to your topic to yourself in order to refer back to them throughout this research process. On this page, you are also able to download the MLA citation that you will need to include in your annotated bibliography by using the site feature. You will need to include three articles from opposing viewpoints in your annotated bibliography. If you need assistance during this process, contact the librarian. Once you have found and read your three articles, you are ready to create your annotated bibliography. The purpose of an annotated bibliography is to help you organize your research. During the research process, you will identify sources that support your working thesis statement. And the annotated bibliography is where you will demonstrate that you can explain the content of your sources, assess their usefulness to your project, and cite your sources correctly. Next, we will take a look at how to format your annotated bibliography using resources provided by IRSD Libraries available on the MLA LibGuide. Please open a new window and keep this video up in a second window. Control N will open a new window. Then if you click Restore Down on each window, you can place them side by side. Pause the video and set up your computer so you can view this video and navigate to the MLA LibGuide in another window. Start off on the library homepage by clicking Quick Links on the IRSD homepage and then Libraries. On the library website, you will see all the available citation guides at the top of the page. Next, click on MLA. Here is the LibGuide devoted to MLA style. You will download the annotated bibliography template, which can be found under the tab MLA Annotated Bibliography. Click on the tab, then click on MLA 8th Edition Annotated Bibliography Template. Then the Word document and then select Enable Editing. This is a sample annotated bibliography that is formatted for you. You can save the template to your computer under a new name for your course assignment using Save As. Then simply type over the parts of the paper using your own information, such as your name, the course number, the date, and the title of the paper. You can get the MLA citation for each article from the database, like we discussed previously, or if you emailed the article to yourself, it will also be located at the bottom of that email. Highlight the entire citation, leaving off the access date. And then press Ctrl C or right-click and select Copy. Now go to your MLA formatted annotated bibliography template. Create one of the sample references given and right-click to see the Paste dialog box. Notice that there are several options for pasting the content you copied. This paper is formatted for you, so we need to select the Merge Formatting Paste selection rather than any other options. The Merge Formatting option will keep the reference intact, bringing any italics over but changing the font to match the rest of the paper in Times New Roman and 12 Point. To use the research from the article in the text of your paper, you need to read the entire article and complete the annotation according to the instructions in your course assignment. Specifically, your assignment asks you to follow each citation with a brief annotation that summarizes and evaluates the sources. Your summary must identify the author's main point and articulate the main takeaway for the audience. In approximately three to five sentences. Then explain the source's importance to your issue and how you plan to use the source in the final research essay. This should take approximately one to two sentences. When you have completed your annotated bibliography, there is an option on the MLA Live Guide where you can submit your work for feedback from a librarian who will verify your formatting and the credibility of your sources. To do this, click on the tab, submit your paper for MLA Live Review. Upload your file and complete the information on the form. Please use your river mail address when completing the form so we can verify that you are an IRSC student. You are encouraged to contact a librarian at any point if you need help locating sources or formatting your annotated bibliography.


In 1996, young Cletus Kasady is talking to his girlfriend, Frances Barrison, through a wall. She is set to be transferred, which devastates them both. She describes her powers getting stronger, and she is worried she cannot control them. Frances is taken away by guards and placed into a truck while Cletus yells for her in vain. In a truck, Frances utilizes her powers against a guard named Mulligan. Her screams produce a supersonic force that incapacitates those around her, and she causes the truck to overturn, but Mulligan fires a shot at her face. Frances wakes up at the Ravencroft Institute, where she is tested by Dr. Pazzo. Jump to the present day at San Quentin Prison where Cletus is insisting that Eddie Brock come to interview him so he can get his story out to the public. Eddie gets called by Mulligan, who is now a detective.  Eddie meets with Cletus, where he asks Eddie to print a haiku in the paper for him as a message to Frances. Before leaving, Venom tells Eddie to take a closer look into Cletus's cell. Back at the apartment, Venom memorizes the drawings and carvings on the walls in Cletus's cell, which he determines is a clue to where the bodies of his victims are buried. It leads them to a beach, which Eddie reports to the authorities, and sure enough bodies are recovered from that area. This influences the judge and governor to reinstate capital punishment, so Cletus is officially sentenced to death. Venom hasn't been happy lately because Eddie has only been letting him eat live chickens and chocolate. They even have two pet chickens that Venom named Sonny and Cher, which he can't bring himself to eat. He thinks that they should be out there taking out bad guys as the lethal protector. They go to the bodega where Mrs. Chin works, now that she knows about Venom's existence, but she informs them that her chocolate shipment is late. While roaming across the city, the two spot a mugger attacking a woman, so Venom pops out to attempt to snack on the guy, but Eddie manages to talk him out of doing that, to the symbiotes dismay. As they are running across rooftops, they get a call from him, asking Eddie to meet with her. Eddie goes to a restaurant to meet him, where Venom is really hoping that and will take Eddie back. She actually reveals that she and Dan have gotten engaged. Based on Eddie's bodily reactions, and knows that Venom is with Eddie, despite him telling her that Venom died a while back, so she tells Venom to take care of Eddie because he can't take care of himself, and also because he drives other people away. Eddie rides his motorcycle back in dismay, not caring if he gets hurt, but Venom steers him away from danger. Eddie receives a postcard from Cletus, which invites him for one last visit before he is executed. The car also details his past exploits, which include the abuse he suffered at the hands of his father, which led him to killing his grandmother by pushing her down the stairs in her wheelchair, and also electrocuting his mother in the bathtub. Eddie reluctantly visits Cletus, but the madman provokes Eddie by reminding him how he not only drove in a way, but how his father blamed him for causing the death of his own mother during childbirth. This causes Venom to push Cletus against the wall, but when he pulls him closer to Eddie, Cletus bites Eddie's hand and draws blood, although Cletus recognizes that what he is tasting is not ordinary blood. Cletus sees the blood on his finger come alive before ingesting it. Venom notes that he probably just made a huge mistake. Eddie and Venom return home where they have a big argument over Eddie not being able to live his life because of Venom, while the symbiote still complains about his hunger. The two then have a physical fight that includes Venom destroying Eddie's TV before they finally break up, and Venom goes on to possess other unwitting victims. Eddie then proceeds to clean up his apartment. Cletus is set to be executed via lethal injection. However, the symbiote in his blood takes over and sabotages the execution, overtaking Cletus's body and transforming him into carnage. He proceeds to slaughter the guards gruesomely before busting out of San Quentin. He kills another man on the outside and steals his clothes before taking a car to go look for Francis. Carnage tells Cletus that he wants his help in killing Venom so that he will be the strongest symbiote, and Cletus agrees on the condition that he helps him find Francis. They go to a gas station where Cletus kills the clerk and hacks the internet with Carnage's help to learn that Francis is at the Ravencroft Institute. Eddie sees the news about Cletus escaping, and he is immediately visited by Mulligan. Knowing that Cletus took a particular interest in him, Mulligan orders Eddie to keep him updated if he finds out anything about Cletus. Eddie goes to do some investigating based on what Venom picked up and is drawn to St. Estes.  Venom continues going through bodies, but none of them are able to fully contain him before they end up dying. He winds up at a nightclub where people think he is just wearing a really good costume. He delivers an impassioned speech to the people in attendance, who all love him, but he is clearly still missing Eddie. With the current body about to give out, Venom manages to take himself to Mrs. Chen's shop and get her help as he is weakening. Cletus arrives at Ravencroft where Dr. Pazzo is trying to taunt Francis. Soon, Cletus emerges and uses Carnage's tentacles to kill Dr. Pazzo and break Francis from her cell. He renames her shriek for her powers.  As authorities an armed personnel approach, Carnage utilizes his abilities once again while Shriek uses her powerful screams against them, but Carnage doesn't like this since the noise weakened symbiotes. He orders Cletus to keep her under control. Eddie is taken into custody by Mulligan for the hope that he can bring Cletus to them. Eddie uses his phone call to contact and to get help. Dan drives her to the station where Eddie explains that he needs Venom to fight back. And then Dan go to Mrs. Chen's shop where he quickly realizes that Venom is using Mrs. Chen as a compatible host and manages to convince Venom to go back with her. They return to the station where he breaks Eddie out. Venom demands a sincere apology from him before returning to his body and Eddie relents and apologizes to Venom for sending him out of his body. Venom then returns to Eddie. Cletus and Shriek plan to have a wedding with the three villains planning to kill their respective targets. Shriek wants Mulligan, Cletus wants Eddie, and Carnage wants Venom. They ambush Mulligan and capture him before going to an and Dan's apartment where Shriek knocks Dan out and then goes to capture him, leaving a note behind for Dan to find. He calls Eddie to let him and Venom know that and is in danger and that the villains want to meet at a cathedral. Eddie, Venom, and Dan arrive at the cathedral for the final showdown. Venom comes in but panics when he sees how big Carnage is. It takes Eddie promising him to allow Venom to eat anybody he wants. Thus begins the epic symbiote battle with Venom fighting Carnage against his many powerful attacks. Shriek tries to help, but Carnage makes her stay out, despite Cletus's protests. Dan manages to hold Carnage down by throwing fire at him. Mulligan attempts to flee, but Shriek goes after him. She corners him and appears to knock him off a ledge with a chain wrapped around his neck. Carnage causes part of the ceiling to fall onto Venom, weakening him just as Carnage grabs and makes his way to the roof to kill her. Venom feels that he and Eddie aren't strong enough to bring them down, but Dan points out that Cletus and Carnage aren't bonded the way Eddie and Venom are, since Carnage keeps trying to hold Cletus down as he fights Carnage's treatment of Shriek. This inspires Venom to rise up and fight back and he stops Carnage from eating him and then saves her from falling. The bell rings and causes the symbiotes to weaken, leaving Eddie and Cletus to fight as men. Just as Carnage and Shriek have them cornered, Venom knocks Shriek off a ledge and sends her plummeting to her demise, causing her screams to bring Venom and Carnage down and she is crushed by a bell. Eddie and Cletus fall, but while Venom manages to use in and Dan to catch Eddie, Cletus and Carnage are separated. Carnage tries crawling back to Cletus, but Venom stops him and devours him first. He grabs Cletus, who tells Eddie that all he wanted was for Eddie to be his friend.  Eddie and Venom part ways with in and Dan before the police arrive. Meanwhile, Mulligan appears to still be alive and his eyes glow blue just like Shrieks. Later on, Eddie tries to figure out what to do with Venom. Although they initially think about separating for good, Eddie decides to retreat to a tropical island, which Venom appreciates. In the mid-credits scene, Venom tells Eddie that there are other corners of the multiverse that symbiotes can see. Just as Venom tries to demonstrate, a burst of energy seems to teleport them to a new location. On the TV, Eddie and Venom see a news report from J Jonah Jameson about Spider-Man following the events of Far From Home. Venom growls and licks Spidey's image on the screen.  No! Not you, father. You, father.


Live from Houston, Texas, it's The Cube, covering Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing. Welcome back to The Cube's coverage of the Grace Hopper Conference here in Houston, Texas. I'm your host, Rebecca Knight. Our guest today is Julie Eberfeld, the Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer of the Commercial Bank at Capital One. Welcome, thank you so much for joining us, Julie. Thank you, Rebecca, glad to be here. So I want to start the conversation by asking about a new product launch that you announced, Capital One, teaching Alexa a new skill. Absolutely. Tell us more. Yeah, it was awesome. We had four of our women on stage announcing a brand new product that we offer on Alexis, so a new skill. We introduced Alexis skills earlier in the year where you could find out information about your credit card. And what we announced here at the conference was that you can ask Alexa, how much did I spend?  Especially as we enter the holiday season, where the answer might be, yes, a little scary. But we're really excited because we think it's just the way people want to bank today. They want convenience. They want to be in their kitchen and be able to just ask Alexa something that they've thought about and ask how much did I spend at Starbucks last month or how much did I spend at the grocery last month? Oh, she'll tabulate on monthly and weekly. Oh, this is. Yeah, it's for over 2,000 different merchants that you can get your information on and you can ask for a specific date or you can ask for a date rain. So we're really excited about how it introduces the way we're thinking about banking and trying to bring humanity to banking and just reacting to the way that you want to bank. So bringing humanity to banking, but a real techie would say it's bringing AI, artificial intelligence to banking. Yes, absolutely. Where are we, do you think, as someone who's in this industry, on that continuum in the sense of, are we just at the very beginning of this transformation? Oh, absolutely, I think so. I mean, I think people are want to bank differently than they ever have just because their experience with technology is so different, but this whole data revolution and the whole way to think about machine learning and artificial intelligence, I mean, I think we're absolutely just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of the opportunity that it creates. I mean, you've heard a lot at the conference about that topic and just the ideas that people have about where that can take us is amazing and it's no different in banking. We have all kinds of ideas on the way that we're going to be able to simplify people's lives and give them the information they need through all of these technologies. So you are the Chief Information Officer of the Commercial Bank at Capital One and you run a team that is designing and developing products for other companies. That's right. How is your approach to building that team and what are you thinking about as you're hiring technologists, men and women, how are you thinking about the strategy? You know, I mean, talent in the technology industry is one of our bigger challenges, right? I mean, you see all the data that predicts the number of open jobs that are going to be out there in the next five years and all the gaps that there will be in terms of people to be able to fill them. And so for us, thinking about the engineering talent that we need to be able to build the products that our customers demand is so important to us and we know that that great talent is really hard to come by. And so not only do we want to get the best talent but we want them to come in and have a very inclusive environment. So we think about how do people do their best work? They do their best work when they're happy at work, when they're engaged. And so that whole notion of inclusion is so important. But we also really think that the diversity lens is important as well, that we want different perspectives. We know that we're only going to get the best ideas and the best innovations, which is really what we're aiming for in order to satisfy our customers' needs if we have that diversity of thought. And so we want the diversity, that's why we're here, that's why we're really excited about the work we're doing in diversity. But we also know it doesn't stop with the hiring. That that whole notion of being engaged, feeling included, feeling you can get your voice in the room, that you can make a difference and that you can do your best work is really what we're really focused on just as much as the hiring side of it. Right, so it's hiring the right people. And then as you said, keeping them happy and engaged. Absolutely. How do you do that? What are some of the things that you're doing at Capital One, these strategies that you're implementing to make sure that people are, as you said, bringing their best selves to work? We have a number of different programs. I think what I've been focusing on for the last couple years is particularly related to diversity and inclusion in tech. And in particular, our Women in Technology initiative, which is what got us here initially to Grace Hopper, we started initiative two years ago and it really was a grassroots effort. Just a couple of young women who had heard what was happening in the industry were concerned about what was happening in terms of just the numbers and the drop-off in terms of women actually entering the tech field. But then also what they had heard about from their friends and what they were hearing in the media about cultures that were just really not feeling inclusive for women. And then this whole notion that women drop out of the tech field and over double the rate of men, it's sort of this midpoint of their career. Just at the point they're about to be your future leaders of tomorrow, they start to drop out. And what, why in your opinion? I mean, there's a lot of theories, there's some research about this. I mean, it does happen right about the time you are thinking about having your children, which can put a real damper on your career. But what are some of the other reasons in your mind and in your experience? I mean, there's a lot of research out there and we kind of rely on that research in terms of our understanding. I mean, I raised three children in this industry, it's been a great experience for me. But I think the research shows that that's not really the reason. I mean, that is a small percentage of the reason that women do drop out. But I think the research shows that the other reasons have to do with this feeling of, you know, maybe this isn't the right field for me, I don't really feel included. I, you know, you hear terms like death by 1,000 cuts, like maybe they can't even identify themselves, what really caused them to start to feel like this wasn't the right field for them. But something just doesn't feel right. And then somebody comes along. It's that problem that has no name, the body for them. Yeah, exactly. And then somebody comes along and says, hey, you've been working with my business for a long time. You know, you know all about the technology, but you know a lot about my business as well. Why don't you come join me? And they get that offer and it just feels appetizing. And maybe they don't really know why. And so I think we really want to continue to make this just a really compelling opportunity for women. You know, you have just these skills that you have and these tools that you have in your hands as an engineer is just amazing, right? So how do you do it? How do you keep them? What are you doing? Keep giving them great assignments, giving them visibility. So it's the tech candy. That's right. Good problems to solve. That's right. And making sure that their voices can be heard, talking to everybody about what it might feel like. How does that work out in practice? You're at a meeting and as you said, you are wanting to make sure that women feel their voices can be heard. What sort of strategies do you do as a manager? Do I personally invite people into the conversation, right? I mean, you get to know the people on your team, you get to know where they might be feeling less uncomfortable and invite them into the conversation. I think we just went through some training for all of our people managers that we rolled out on bias training. And what we did this for thousands of people managers because we thought it was really important that we had a common language, that everyone could start to talk about bias because we all have it, but we could do it in a really simple and common language sort of way. And so we introduced this training and now everyone, you hear everyone talking about it. Hey, I think that I'm experiencing some safety bias here. I think we're experiencing some distance bias. We're not letting the person who's on the phone or the workers remotely have as much say as the ones who are local to us. And so it's really awesome to see how people are using that. It starts out a little tongue in cheek of I'm just reciting what I learned in my training, but then it can become a real thing. Absolutely, because we make a lot of decisions every day. Some of them are quick and easy and some of them are really complex decisions and really meaningful decisions. And so we've also taken that bias training into our people management practices because we think that is the moments of truth. When you're doing performance management at the end of the year or you're doing talent assessments that we do throughout the year, those are the moments that bias can creep in. And so we know that, we know everybody has them. So we've tried to introduce, hey, these are the risks of bias that you run into during these different people management practices. And here are some mitigating approaches. I think that's the piece that's often missing from bias training is like, okay, so we all have bias and then we can all just kind of wash our hands of that and say, okay, this training actually says there are ways to mitigate that bias and we try to train people in these moments, here are the ways that you can make sure that you try to mitigate that bias. And so I think these different biases like distance biases are really common one. We have people who are on the phone and we don't invite them in. So many remote workers today. Right, and so all of these things build up to creating a more inclusive environment when people understand the biases that they might have and how they then can mitigate it that applies to all of us, right? Everybody has something different they bring to the table. But some of them do particularly affect women more acutely. And so we also introduced a program that we're really proud of which is our men as allies program. Men as allies. Men as allies. All right. And it really was a completely grassroots effort which is what I really love. It wasn't, let's have a demand from the top that we start this program. It was something that came out of our women in tech initiative. And so one of our women attended a conference with a male partner and one of her peer executives. And they went to the conference where they spoke about just some of the experiences that women have in the workplace and how men react to that in the workplace. So how men feel in dealing with women's issues in the workplace. So give me some examples because I mean, I think I know what you're talking about. I think our viewers can relate, but just what were some of the experiences that they talked about? One of the things that Mike talks about is his realization that women don't necessarily get the same feedback as men. So early in your career, you might have something that needs to be corrected and a man coaching another man. And this, by the way, is also women managers, but they will coach a man very directly. They will tell them exactly what they need to do. Here's this kind of career limiting behaviors that you need to correct. And if you correct this, you're going to be on a better trajectory for your career. Women, on the other hand, get very softened feedback. I think we're socialized to think about women and have more, we're just softer in our approach to women. And so they don't get the same feedback. And then, lo and behold, five, six, seven years into their career, maybe this thing that could have been corrected in their first year or second year hadn't been corrected and maybe is starting to create some challenges for them. And become challenges for them to get that next promotion, that next choice assignment. Absolutely. I think there are other things like, you know, this realization that you make assumptions about what people may or may not want to do in their career. And so I think some of our managers realized that, oh gosh, you know, I had an opportunity and men a move. And I just didn't ask this particular woman if she might be interested because I thought that that just wouldn't fit into her family life. And so instead of making that assumption, you know, you really should ask. Right, because it wouldn't be the same assumption you'd make about a man of, oh, well, he's got three kids in school, he doesn't want to move. You would still ask the man, but you would think differently. That's right. It's really true. And so I think there were different elements. And I think as a woman, I'm guilty of it too. And it's not just a male manager who would make that assumption. That's right. And I think that's one of the important things that we've tried to be really inclusive around the notion that, you know, many of these things are not just men to women. They are all managers, tend to have some of these biases and some of these assumptions and that we can think differently about it by being just more aware that that's what we do. I think also just learning that, you know, women do have a tendency to feel like they have to be 100% qualified for a job. There's a lot of research on that. Exactly. That a woman sees a job ad and says, oh, I can't do the seven things they ask. I can only do five. I'm not qualified. Exactly. A man can do two and he signs up. Exactly. And especially I think in engineering, I think it's even amplified when you're a software engineer and it says you need to have these skills and you're like, well, I don't have some of those skills so I shouldn't apply. Whereas, you know, we all know that we can learn these skills. And so I think what we've tried to say is that for some of our women, if we think that a woman is really a great candidate for a job, don't wait for her to kind of put her name in the hat. Just go and reach out and tap her and say, hey, I think this would be a great job opportunity for you. Even if she says, well, you know, I'm not sure I'm qualified. You have to kind of go that next step. Give her the push, Grace. Julie Elberfeld, thank you so much for joining us. It's been terrific talking to you. Thank you. I'm Rebecca Knight, your host for theCUBE's coverage of the Grace Hopper Conference here in Houston, Texas. We'll be back after this break.


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Good evening. Welcome to the Secretary of State Candidate Forum. This program is part of a series brought to you by The Bridge and Orca Media to help voters get to know their candidates better. I'm Cassandra Hemingway. I'm the managing editor of The Bridge and this evening's moderator. A little bit about these forums before we introduce the candidates. These forums were intended to provide the candidates an opportunity to share their views and explain why they think they should be elected. It is not a debate, so candidates will not be asking, questioning each other. Before introducing the two candidates we have with us tonight, I will review the format. We have asked the public to send us their questions, so we've incorporated some questions from the community into our list here tonight and we'll get to as many as we can. During this program we'll also be taking call-in questions and if you would like to call in, call<PHONE_NUMBER>. That number is<PHONE_NUMBER>. Each candidate will have two minutes at the opening of this program to introduce themselves and explain why they're running. After that they'll have a minute and a half to answer each of our questions. And if there's a need for a rebuttal, that's at the moderator's discretion. For the opening statements I'll call candidates in alphabetical order by last name and then we'll switch back and forth between who starts first. So I'd like to introduce Sarah Copeland-Hanses, the Democratic candidate for Secretary of State and H. Brooke Page, the Republican candidate. Welcome, both of you. Thank you for coming. Thanks for having us. Sarah, would you like to start with your opening statement? Great. Thank you so much. So I'm Sarah Copeland-Hanses. I hail from Bradford, grew up in Corinth, graduated from Oxford High School and the University of Vermont. I spent a couple years as a middle school teacher before I had the wonderful opportunity to stay home with my kids for eight years. During that time I stayed involved with young people through coaching and volunteering in the community and then a group of community members asked me to run for the house. So I ran for the house in 2004, was sworn in in 2005 and have served in the house representing Bradford Fairly and West Fairly for 18 years. My committee background in the house was a decade or so on the health care committee and most recently as chair of the government operations committee and the government operations committee oversees all of the functions of the Secretary of State's office. And so it was through the work that we've done in streamlining the Office of Professional Regulation in putting voter accessibility at the forefront of our election reforms that I got really excited about the role of Secretary of State. And so when Secretary Kondos announced that he was going to step down, I started thinking about it. Thank you. Brooke. Yes. Time for your opening statement. I'm Brooke Page and I'm from the town of Washington, Vermont. And my wife and I moved up to Vermont, oh my gosh, 1987. And I wanted to get her away from the big city life. We lived outside of Philadelphia and we had been married, I guess, about 10 or 12 years at that time. And things were really not going well where we lived. We lived in an isolation apartment building. We had been saving all our money up to eventually move up to Vermont and had been buying property in Washington. We'd bought it a couple years sooner or so. We were very glad to get our home up here to Vermont, but unfortunately I was working in Philadelphia. And so for the next 27 years I commuted back and forth every week. I've been involved, especially since I retired. I retired because I almost died from congestive heart failure, which is now fully resolved. But anyway, so since I've been moving up here, I've gotten involved a little bit in politics. My main concerns were the problem with open primaries and all the mischief that that causes in our elections. And that's how I became interested in the Secretary of State's office. And so I've run for Secretary of State in some other offices along the way in a large part trying to make the point that we should have closed primaries where the parties get to make their own choices for their candidates rather than having it be this kind of roughy and fight where everybody gets to vote for any party in the primary and anybody can run for any office in the primary. And so I guess that's it. We'll get to more of this later, but I'm excited about becoming Vermont's next Secretary of State. Okay. Thank you. Well, let's get into the questions and maybe some of them will touch on that topic. Okay, so we're going to start this next question with Brooke and then Sarah. And first I'll give you the context of and then the question. So election integrity elections have been under scrutiny here in Montpelier, a citizen recounted election results from the 2020 general election just a few weeks ago, almost two years later. The Secretary of State's office has had a large number of records requests, not only for recounts, but also and primarily for voting machine data just recently in the late summer early fall. So my question is, is election integrity under attack? Do you believe the Secretary of State office needs to focus more attention on election security? And if so, what actions do you propose? I think nationwide, there's a lot of outstanding questions about exactly what's going on. And I think 2020 election created additional problems in that emergency activities were begun because of COVID that in many states weren't even constitutional under normal circumstances. And that may be said of some of the things that happened here in Vermont. But as far as the integrity of the election, fortunately for us, the most important people involved are the town clerks and the members of the Board of Civil Authority. And it's under their scrutiny that the election is actually operated. And I think almost universally that the local people voting have confidence in the members of the Board of Civil Authority and in their town clerks.  That doesn't mean that there's a perception, not a perception that there's a problem. And in my mind, that's the biggest problem with this is many people hear about the larger issues nationwide and somehow attempt to place them, you know, as being problems here in Vermont. And Mr. Kondo is by saying, oh, we never have any problems here. There's no election fraud in the Vermont. Instead of trying to prove the point, only fosters the concerns. And that's the biggest problem now is folks are becoming dissuaded from being involved in the process or and voting. Okay. Thank you, Brooke. Sarah. So I remember the the run up to the question. But could you repeat the two part question that you asked? Yes. And is election integrity under attack? And do you believe the Secretary of State office needs to focus more attention on election security? And if so, what actions do you propose? Great. So, yes, it is clear that election integrity is under attack and watching the the competitiveness of this message over and over again about stolen elections and and and misinformation about voter fraud really does play into that narrative. And what I know in Vermont is that our elections are kept safe in part because we have 246 duly elected or appointed town or city clerks whose job it is to uphold democracy and to conduct elections that that I think have very clear procedures and very clear guidelines for what to do in the event of an irregularity. Now I'm I am not at all going to rest on my laurels about whether our elections are secure. I will bring together a town clerk advisory committee in part so that I have a collection of town clerks from different parts of the state from big towns and small to to give me sort of a front row view of how elections are working for them. I will also bring together a cyber security task force that Montpelier City clerk John Odom is helping to advise me on and we will make sure that we kick the tires and make sure we do everything that we need to to keep our elections secure. Thank you. Okay, this next question, Sarah, I'll ask you first and then Brooke and the context for this one is voter turnout. Vermont looks like it's doing pretty well with voter turnout when you compare it to voter turnout nationally. In the 2018 general election, data on the Secretary of State's website says that 54.6 percent of voters turned out in Vermont compared to 53.4 nationally and in the general election and 63.3 compared to 61.4 nationally turned out for the 2016 election just for comparison. So the question is do you regard those numbers as adequate and even though Vermont only slightly surpasses national voter turnout averages and please explain why or why not? So you know when you live in a democracy the point of a democracy is that everyone gets to have a say, right? And so ideally we would have 100 percent participation and I know that there are a lot of reasons why sometimes people don't participate. Many of them I've heard from voters over my 18 years running for my house seat. So that kind of feedback informs what I will do if elected Secretary of State and you know the first thing that I want to do is make sure that when you receive your November general election ballot in the mail, you also get a voter guide. When candidates register to be on the ballot, they already give the Secretary of State's office their contact information, their website, their social media handles. We can require them also to submit 100 words. Why are you running for this office and what will you do if elected? And I think that that will go a long way to empowering people to vote because you have 45 days with your ballot and you will have a voter guide and you can spend that time figuring out who you want to vote for. It's really intimidating to try to figure that out in three to five minutes in you know in the voting booth on election day and so I think that the opportunity for strengthening our democracy through universal vote by mail and a voter guide is going to be very powerful. Thank you. Brooke. Okay. I think the important part of democracy as we practice it here in the United States is the ability of people to vote or not vote as they see fit. You know Russia, China, they have elections where everybody is commanded to vote and so when I've been out and about there's a significant portion of the people that do not want to get involved in politics either just because they have no interest or in many cases because they've become dissuaded from participating. They think that something's wrong with the process or that the elections are rigged and so the biggest thing in my mind is to convince as many people as we can of the importance of their vote and the honesty and integrity of the election process. You know I think that citizens also have a responsibility to inform themselves through the media about who the candidates are and what the election is all about and to spoon feed it to them through Secretary of State's office may be inappropriate that the media at large, just like what we're doing here, should be the forum where citizens find out about the candidates and find out about the process and you know I think that's the most important part and I think it's very important to vote in person versus all of this universal mail going on that we have going on currently. Thank you. Thank you Brooke. Okay I appreciate both of your answers and we're going to move on to the next question starting with Brooke for this one. This question is actually about a comment you made Sarah during VT Digger forum in the primaries where you talked about wanting to hire an outreach person should you become the Secretary of State? There's a lot of misinformation circulating to the point that the Secretary of State website actually has a myth versus fact page to address some of that. So my question is for both of you do you think the Secretary of State does need an outreach person on staff and why or why not? Okay before we start my time an outreach person in what as far as elections I didn't see the article. Somebody who would go be an outreach do outreach to the community to schools to the around the state informing people about what the Secretary of State's office does. Okay I got you. I'm sorry that wasn't clear. Your question and and how I see the see the answers a little bit different I think that what Sarah may have been talking about is something I've talked about for a very long time and that's when Jim Douglas and Deb Markowitz were in the Secretary of State's office there was a specific education outreach individual who was responsible for trying to promote civics and governance instruction within the schools and I think you know if when I'm elected if I'm elected that I would certainly want to re-establish that a lot of the materials still float around from when Jim Douglas and Deb Markowitz were in the office and and they while they probably need to be updated a little bit I think it's very important for the Secretary of State in all of the all the hats that the Secretary of State wears not only in elections but also in the Archives responsibilities there's the Archives has a vast treasure trove of materials that are kind of locked away and I think that it would be important as part of that outreach person's responsibilities to try to circulate and and promote those materials and maybe have them restored and displayed thank you Sarah so yes I think it's really important for the Secretary of State's office to resume that education and outreach coordinator role the the idea that young people are graduating from high school without ever having had a a class in civics a class in how democracy functions is is is I think part of what plays into the misinformation that is running rampant if you don't understand how government works you're susceptible to lies about stolen elections and so I want to make sure that that education and outreach coordinator is somebody who can come in who can work with a group of teacher advisors teachers in the classroom now from pre-k all the way through high school who can say this is what a relevant curriculum would look like or this is what we need to to be helpful and accessible to to our fellow teachers and to our students that's phase one phase two though is recognizing that we have a whole generation of people who either didn't have civics or like me graduated long enough ago that they may have forgotten a few of their civics lessons I want to make sure that we're getting out and engaging with those people as well because the purpose of a democracy is that if you have a challenge or a problem that you see in that other people are also experiencing and you can't fix it on your own you should be able to petition your government to help with that maybe it's get out of the way but to help with that I want to empower people to know how to do democracy thank you thank you for that um I actually um well I was going to skip ahead to another question but um I think because most of my questions focus on the election I'm going to skip ahead to a question that kind of talks a little bit more about the other roles of the Secretary of State then we'll get back to elections questions um so Sarah we'll start with you for this question um so the Secretary of State oversees Vermont Archives as you mentioned Brooke um and records requests um oh my goodness I skipped to the wrong question here it is sorry about that um elections of course the office of professional regulation which is a whole other part we haven't talked about corporations etc um we have focused and we will continue to focus on elections tonight but I'd like to just hear from you both about um the specific functions in the Secretary of State role that you believe need changes or that you think are working well and you'd like to keep going the way they're going um in some of these other roles and Sarah will start with you broadly across all of the departments okay I'm going to start with corporations um because very early on in the campaign trail I happened across someone who started a business during the pandemic and so I said great tell me how the Secretary of State's business portal worked for you um and she gave me some really good feedback um and uh and that feedback was uh depending on the kind of corporation you are trying to register it goes really smoothly but in fact I had to drive to Montpelier in the middle of a pandemic um to to exchange my paperwork in person which just felt really weird um and so what I want to do in the Corporations Division is uh is get in there and get a listing of businesses that have started up because we've had a lot of turnover of businesses closing and new ones opening in the last two years I want to I want to talk with them and say how how's it working for you what can we do better um with respect to the State Archives it is a treasure trove of important and critical information um that that documents the history of the state of Vermont I want to make sure that we're giving our State Archives the resources that they need in order to be able to adapt to the digital era you know it used to be when there was a stack of file boxes you would say oh man I really need to go through those and and pull out just the things that are important to keep and and leave out the memo about the Christmas party um we're not doing that as diligently as we should be in the electronic era and so that's one of the reforms that I'd like to bring and I'll be happy to talk about OPR a little bit later I bet we'll get back to it okay thank you very good um I I kind of view OPR and Office of Professional Regulation and Corporations kind of in the same lens um I think there's far fewer problems in corporations than there are in OPR I have a number of friends of mine in the business community who have been damaged by OPR's regulatory um overreach if you like people who I know to be good honest business people one of them wound up having to retire because he became so mired in the process that he couldn't practice his trade which was surveying for over two years and eventually threw up in his hands and gave up I think a big part of some of the other problems I've heard beyond the fact that OPR has kind of become the sea creature with the tentacles weaving itself out into so much of the um uh commerce of the state that we really need to take a look at who's regulating those businesses over half the professions on the OPR list are in fact medical or health related everything from chiropractors and and nurse practitioners to barbers beauticians tattoo artists and it really strikes me that neither I nor Jim condos nor possibly even Sarah unless she has some additional talents I don't know about are really not the ideal people to be overseeing those offices and so I think that's a big issue to be looked at we'll talk more about archives where I've had some personal experience in a few moments and the troubles that are over there I'm sorry I have to stop you Brooke I know you're just going to keep talking until I was in about the rap until I saw the clock thank you thank you very much um and I realized that was a very broad question with only a minute and a half to answer so I appreciate that I actually want to skip over to a question that goes back to the town clerks you both talked about and not just town clerks but all of the people who are involved in holding elections we're going back to elections um so and we'll start with Brooke for this question and then go to Sarah um so given the violence and threats against election workers across the country how would you protect and maintain an adequate pool of non-partisan poll workers in our state okay well I think you know we can't really put vermonters in the same bucket with the folks from Philadelphia or Chicago or you know New York that I think we have a much more civil atmosphere here and in general and in additional in elections and so I'm hopeful that we don't have those kinds of troubles my biggest concern with poll watchers right now is that with the new universal vote by mail and the early opening of ballots and all of this there's so many opportunities where the ballots are being opened and separated that it's difficult for poll watchers from each party to actually be involved and watch the the balloting process and that's a problem you know we we suddenly instead of having an election day which is mandated by our constitution chapter two articles 43 and 44 if I remember correctly where it says the election shall be held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November and so it doesn't say we can have an election season it doesn't have we can have election month it's a specific day and it's important to remember all of this early voting and people being excited to vote early get it out of the way really is really encouraging people to vote before they have a full knowledge of who the candidates are and what the issues are and I think that's somewhat toxic towards getting the best outcome as far as informed voters thank you thank you Brooke Sarah so um one of the first topics that I want to talk to my town clerk advisory group about is what are you seeing what are you experiencing and what do you need um I think it's very important uh in terms of protection of our democracy that these citizens who who've stepped up to run for the job of town clerk in order to help us safely conduct our democracy um they need to feel protected when they are holding elections I know they feel supported right now because by and large every town clerk that I talk to says yes I I get an email back immediately yes they answer the phone they call back on election day you know I'm getting the support that I need but I also want to make sure that we are giving these important civil servants any other support that they might need thank you okay so this next question we start with Sarah I'm just going to keep flipping back and forth the context first the context of this question is um this the organization uh campaign legal is the name of the organization has issued a paper addressing foreign influence on us elections in it they state that nearly one billion dollars in secret money known as dark money has been spent on us elections over the past decade the molar report which I'm sure we're all familiar with um found that Russian government the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in a quote sweeping in systemic fashion and violated us criminal law the question for you both is do we need to improve our existing cybersecurity measures to limit foreign interference with our elections and we'll start with Sarah um yes it is um a race without a finish line I think is uh is the way Secretary Kondos has always put it in and I agree because uh we might think we're secure today um but we don't know what's coming at us uh tomorrow um and so yes I will continue to focus on uh cybersecurity of our elections our tabulators are not connected to the internet and we need to make sure that uh we uh maintain the safeguards that we have in place uh that that give us a great deal of security and assurance that our elections are um that are that the integrity is intact you started your question though with uh with um one billion dollars in dark money and so I have 45 seconds left I want to talk a little bit about campaign finance um over the years serving in the House of Representatives one of the most frequent frustrations that I heard from house colleagues running for reelection is my opponent never filed um you know my opponent has signs my opponent has ads in the paper uh but nobody knows where my opponent is getting his or her money from um and so I want to make sure that we do a better job in Vermont of ensuring compliance with campaign finance disclosures because vermoners want to know who's paying for their elections thank you brook give me the initial question because I'm I'm she followed up on the little tangent there so what was the initial question so the initial question is do we need to improve our cybersecurity measures to limit foreign interference with elections very good I think in a little tiny Vermont that um that we are far off the radar of terrible uh influences from Russia or China or the Ukraine or wherever I think the most important factor that we have going for us in our elections is we're still basically running a manual system yes in big towns we have tabulators to to add up the vote instead of making everybody add them up by hand but in the end all that data only goes as far as a cf card that's in the side of the tabulator from there on it's all handled not over the internet but manually and so we don't there's no opportunity for interference in my mind the only concern I've had in there is during the primary apparently once he gets the secretary of state's office it's then being transmitted out of state to New Hampshire where at least in the primary this time something went very wrong and it took him over a week to come up with the uh before they could have the canvassing committee meetings in order to give the results um you know so like I said I think as long as we stay with we're small state you know the whole state has population of less than that of Boston for crying out loud quarter the size of Philadelphia and so I think that us remaining with um paper ballots and I think also importantly maybe we get back to more of voting on election day maybe make election day a state holiday thank you I'm gonna move back to talking about the archives um and we'll start this question with you brook um the secretary of state oversees the Vermont archives and record requests um I understand the original Vermont Constitution is among those archives um several states have or are creating a public records ombudsman office to deal with issues I might have I might have confused the issues with archives yes and records request um do you believe this public records ombudsman office is needed in Vermont to oversee state compliance with records requests why why not take your two parts and try to put them together here first of all as far as our archives I do a lot of research and so I've been up to the archives numerous times back when I was doing research on school mergers and things I was involved in in the records from uh the time of the brigham decision and act 60 and those records were all stored in the basement of the redstone building and are all infected with or infested with mold and so when you go up there to deal with them the first time you come back nobody tells you this and so you come back with a bad case of rash on your arms and hands and whatever and so next time you are smart enough to take some bed of drill and slather some on your arms to keep that from happening so there's problems in archives as far as things being uh tended to more recently I had to go and get my state charter for my little town of Washington and we're one of I think 16 towns that still has its original 1777 charter signed by Thomas Jittenden and so I went up there they bring this nice box out they opened the box and here's this tattered volume with a disintegrated leather cover and as they're part parting the pages trying to find the Washington town charter the pages are just basically separating and and so they scanned a copy for me neatly closed it back and put it away but I fear that many of other documents you know these are just the ones I happen to come in contact with aren't being treated much better and so I think it would be important to restore the volumes we have I'm going to run out of time I want another second but also importantly to have all the documents scanned so they're readily available instead of being tucked away up in middle sex thank you brook and page if you would like 10 extra seconds for this question I won't I won't take 10 extra seconds all right I'm just going to repeat it for the audience okay sure um the question is um do you think Vermont needs a public records ombudsman office to oversee state compliance of public records requests um I do support that concept uh and and I support it because I have seen many times over the years that somebody who who believes that they've not been given the information they want from their from a state agency or a municipal entity has only recourse they have is to take that entity to court which is a very intimidating thing for an ordinary citizen I think an ombuds office would would go a long way to helping make sure that we have best practices in place so that public records requests are being acted on in a timely manner and I think it will improve transparency and also probably make it easier for the uh the entity who's holding the records um to produce it thank you um I'm going to switch gears and talk about mail-in ballots which I heard you referenced earlier brook and we'll start I I lost track of who starts first um I think you would start first for this one thank you Sarah um okay so the state authorized mail-in voting in an attempt to slow the transmission of COVID-19 while ensuring stronger voter participation the question is should mail-in voting be an option in all Vermont elections including town meetings and primaries and Sarah so um I have been really impressed with how how positively Vermonters have embraced mail-in ballots um I think that Vermonters recognize that having a little more time with your ballot and the ability to to research um for a few weeks and mull over your choices is a is a really good thing there's a couple of challenges though with uh with extending universal vote by mail to either local elections or primaries um I'll take local elections first many of our communities in Vermont do not ballot voting for their town meeting so they elect their select board and their other local officials they adopt their budget um they they oftentimes debate and amend their budget right from the floor of town meeting town meeting is a really precious um opportunity for Vermonters to participate in direct democracy and I have seen so many times that people's minds have been changed my mind has been changed in town meeting because I listened to my neighbors talk about whether they wanted to do something or not um if we institute a you know a heavy-handed Montpelier based edict that we go to to mailing those ballots we will have done away with town meeting I don't want to do that without Vermonters engaging in that question and saying yes that's the way we want to go thank you Brooke okay um I'm not sure that any of the discussion that I've heard out and about was calling on mandating universal vote by mail for for state for um town and local elections I think at best there was a discussion about making it optional and I think it's currently under the law optional to those towns but the town would make that decision uh universal vote by mail uh for statewide elections has not been the wonderful embraced uh activity that Sarah would lead you to believe there's thousands tens of thousands of people who are very distressed about it and the fact that the ballots are being mailed everywhere I have people sending me information back or physical copies back uh images of their ballots that they've moved to st. Louis and the post office instead of being instructed by the secretary of state you know if undeliverable return to sender has been forwarding these ballots all over the place I mean I've seen of the people I know five people who have moved away and their ballot caught right up with them sadly three of them caught up with them before mine even made it to my house in Washington Vermont so I'm not quite sure what's going on but uh you know and they all have the nice neat little yellow forwarding sticker from the post office and um as I said the earlier you're voting Sarah really almost made the the point about town meeting the earlier you're voting there's less information you have just like heard the comment about town meeting the statewide elections on election day that's the day people should be coming to the polls to make their decision and if you know if they have problems and want to vote early or vote absentee good to go but a majority of people should not be you know wind up with their ballots really thank you Brooke Sarah because uh Brooke you did mention you used the phrase that Sarah led you to believe I would like to offer you 30 seconds to rebut if you would like to thank you yes um so there's so much going on there I'm not sure how to how to fit it to 30 seconds um so you know this idea that that that there's something wrong with forwarding somebody's ballot who has moved is you know is is frankly putting in in the front of a legal voter a barrier that doesn't need to exist you know I I think that the uh by and large Vermonters are um are really pleased with the ability to sit down with their ballot and um and yes we have some work we can do to to clean up our checklist and make sure that it's more responsive um but I I think universal vote by mail has been a success thank you Brooke and we're gonna start really okay you're right right thank you we're so we're gonna um uh we're gonna start this question with you and this actually this question came from a um debate or a forum rather that you were in in 2018 when you ran for secretary of state then um and in that uh forum then secretary of state Jim condos um said that he believes there should be a national voting day the same way we in Vermont um have town meeting day is a holiday for some people not for everybody um do you think there should be a statewide voting day um holiday um similar to town meeting day that would enable people who work um or who can't get to the polls for other reasons to um to go out and vote yeah I've openly said on numerous occasions that I think that election day should be a state holiday in Vermont without question now that's not everybody's not going to get the day off obviously uh people have wind up working on Christmas day for crying out but understand that it would focus attention on election day of course if you have universal vote by mail that makes less sense and I'm not really in favor of continuing universal vote by mail in 2019 Vermont was Vermont's elections were judged to be the most accessible and the most secure in the country and this with our um no excuse early and absentee voting and the laws that we have to permit uh the handicap and the home bound to request the justices of the peace to come to their home to assist them in voting uh we we certainly have the most had the most accessible voting process even before universal vote by mail universal vote by mail has just created issues and remember we were talking about people having confidence in the election one thing that it has done is given a lot of people less confidence as they envision 440 000 ballots papering the countryside being dropped in piles in the vestibules and lobbies of apartment buildings and uh dorms and uh just all sorts of other mischief going on I'm out of time thank you Sarah could you repeat the question yeah I was wondering I was wondering if you would want me to do that um now I've lost it in my papers here do you think we should enact a statewide voting day or a holiday for general elections similar to town meeting day thank you yeah the the challenge with that is always that not everybody has that day off because even your grocery store and your gas station um is open on uh on holidays that are much more universally observed than town meeting day uh I think what what we should think about if we're going to have that conversation in Vermont is looking at what some other countries do which is that they have voting day on a Sunday when many if not most businesses are already closed um and so it makes it uh easier for people to be able to take advantage of that voting day thank you um I just want to remind the audience that we are taking live call-in questions and if you would like to leave the numbers up on the screen um we'd love to hear from you um so now moving on this next question I'll start with Sarah we're getting close to the end of our time here we have about 15 minutes left um talk to me about the importance of the Secretary of State's office functioning as a non-partisan entity so you know there are a lot of um aspects of the Secretary of State's duties that are are are very ministerial um technical non-partisan um and so as far as how the office functions it needs to off it needs to function in a neutral non-partisan way um I want to talk a little bit about the office of professional regulation uh since that's the one division that we haven't gotten to yet um and talk a little bit about the the the function of professional regulation is really at its base about protecting public health and public safety now I don't need to be an expert tattooist in order to uh to be able to be the Secretary of State um and assemble a a board or an advisory committee of people in that profession who can help keep those uh regulations up to date and can indeed evaluate them to make sure that we are um doing the the lowest level of regulation that is necessary for public health but I don't think you want to imagine doing away with regulating amusement park rides we can all imagine the the you know terrible tragedy of um of uh poorly maintained amusement park ride um tattooists uh dental uh hygienists nurses all of these folks um play very important and critical roles in our lives and we want to make sure that we have a base level of public health and public safety in mind as we offer licenses thank you brook the question is uh talk to me about the Secretary of State's office functioning as a non-partisan entity okay well there's many there's several offices in in the statewide election that are really ministerial positions treasurer auditor of accounts um even attorney general as well as Secretary of State and I think our current Secretary of State has gotten a little bit too partisan on numerous occasions uh lashing out again at uh last president uh making other remarks uh supportive of the opponents of uh Justice Kavanaugh and those kinds of things are out of place for the person that's responsible one of primary responsibilities is chief uh election official one other thing I've gone to me I talked to a couple town clerks just yesterday many of the town clerks are upset that the Secretary of State has kind of imposed himself as the the principal election official statewide and in their town they view that it's their responsibility and duty to be sending out the election the ballots regardless of whether they have to send them out to everyone or merely on request um the other thing I just have a few seconds left I do want to address the the issue about um the OPR and the expanse of its regular reach I'm not saying that these folks shouldn't be regulated merely that especially in the healthcare profession that maybe the Department of Health would be better better equipped to do that thank you thank you I'm sorry to cut you off I'm trying to get better at that uh timing um so um we'll start this next question with you brook um what in your view are the elements of the duties of the Secretary of State's office that may need improvements or strengthening and how would you go about doing it oh lord in a minute and a half that's like impossible as I've said I think we need a good strong look at elections many of the things that we did as a result of covid which were supposed to only be temporary emergency orders um have now been morphed into permanent changes and everything from universal vote by mail to how we're treating the drop boxes and and vote harvesting which are the two evil stepchildren of universal vote by mail um are really problematic as I've said OPR I think needs a good looking over and to try to find out how to scale it back another problem is that Secretary Condos was real big on making everything paperless you know and there's many people that are in commerce many business owners and professionals who aren't really up to speed on you know on paperless on on the computer age and I've talked to a lot of people who have who have lost and then had to fight to get their fictitious aliases and and their their business licenses back because they thought they were getting notices in the mail we're never told otherwise and then suddenly you know they're they're not out of compliance and so I think we need a a a professional to come in and look you know take a global view of that office and figure out what's going on I've already mentioned about archives and the troubles there and and restoring this historic documents and more and just as importantly uh I know thank you um Sarah um do you need would you like me to repeat no no I'm raring to go in fact I think I'm going to buy a spack a little bit of time here because a lot of the things that I'm going to list again are are things that we've already talked about tonight um you know I think by and large the secretary state's office is very well respected and Jim condos has done a great job of making sure that we have made improvements along the way um what are the elements that need strengthening um I think the voter guide is uh is an important part of strengthening our democracy I think it goes hand in hand with the advances of Universal Vote by Mail um that education and outreach coordinator who will be informed by a group of people in the teaching profession how do we help create civics for young people and then how do we also take that to adults in our communities cyber security focus make sure that we're asking for good feedback good advice kicking the tires every single day in that town clerk advisory committee um so that we have a good link between the local communities who keep their own archives um and uh conduct their own elections and the secretary state's office thank you we got a call in question so I'm going to move to that um and we'll start with Sarah and then go to Brooke um seeing this for the first time so um okay the question is it was mentioned that there are cities that are less civilized what makes these cities less civilized in terms of the election can I after an interpretive moment I think that when we were talking about the fact that politics in Vermont is very civil compared to maybe the politics in Philadelphia I forget the other towns I mentioned Philadelphia Baltimore Chicago where elections becomes a real right okay adversary sport in that context I'm going to ask the timekeeper we're going to start with Sarah for this um to restart the clock for Sarah so that's the context that makes more sense okay so why would those um what the question is what makes those other cities outside of Vermont less civil with their elections than Vermont or do that are they you know I think I think what it comes down to um is what's unique about Vermont is that we um we have a live and let live attitude and and part of that comes from you know we're all bearing down to try to make it through the cold of winter you know if you need a cup of sugar you know you can run up to my house and and borrow a cup of sugar um but you also know that even if we disagree on politics and and you have a red flag and I have a blue flag you know that uh that that if you're stuck in a snow bank I'm going to help you get out in the dead of winter and and so you know in Vermont we still do greet each other as human beings first I may not agree with your politics you may not agree with mine but we're uh but we're humans and and vermonters first you know I I think that politics in Vermont and politics in some of these other cities that we've talked about our worlds apart we saw on election night 2020 uh the folks that were supposed to be observing for the parties having pieces of plywood put up against the windows so they couldn't view the opening and processing of ballots we saw people in parking lots filling out ballots and and all sorts of mischief and I think we should thank our lucky stars that we don't have that kind of incivility in our election process and I guess that's about it that you know just we're very blessed to have a degree of camaraderie if you like in the operation of our elections and and bless blessings that we have our wonderful town clerks and boards of civil authority who are from both parties yet work together to make sure elections go smoothly thank you looks like we're getting a couple more call-in questions and we still have more time so the next one we'll start with you brook for this one if mail-in ballots and early voting was scaled back how would you ensure everyone especially those that are systematically and historically marginalized has somewhere close to vote and lines aren't too long I think in Vermont we you know we have over 300 some odd polling places obviously every there's 252 now towns so every town has at least one polling place and many have multiple polling polling places so I think polling places are convenient for everyone for those that it is it's not convenient either because of location or because of their work requirements and things even if we got rid of universal vote by mail we still have the fallback of our early and absentee voting where and unlike sending them all over the place you know papering the countryside if you like with the system we had up until 2019 there's a chain of custody you call your town clerk and ask for a ballot the town clerk now knows you're expecting the ballot and you know that she's sending it one you get it and then she's expecting its return so there there's no question about where that ballot's gone and where it came back to beyond that as I said before we also have a secondary process for for shut-ins and and people that have handicaps to prevent them from getting to the polling place of calling the town clerk or the board of civil authority and asking that the justice of the piece be sent out two of them one from each party and that they bring the ballot if you need assistance in filling out the ballot they assist you in filling it out and then they return it to the polling place I don't think we have a problem here in Vermont thank you people being able to vote thank you Sarah how would you answer that question so when we enacted universal vote by mail in 2020 we did it primarily out of a concern for public health we didn't want people to have to choose between possibly being exposed to a pandemic virus and being able to conduct elections when we came back with more time and in being able to reflect on the 2020 election and those successes we really came at it with with a lens to let's make sure that this is the the best answer for Vermont and so we looked at all of the issues that that Mr. Page has talked about around ballot drop boxes and you know papering the countryside if that's the right phrase that you used and and we really wanted to make sure that elections were accessible to everyone and and particularly people who are who have been historically marginalized who are those people in Vermont well they're they're people who maybe English is not their native language they are people who are working two jobs and you know maybe they have to rush from one job to the next and they can't get to the town hall on election day or they can't turn their ballot in in person they need the convenience of that after hours drop box and so you know if you live in a democracy you believe that everybody should have a vote and that's what we were focused on thank you Sarah we have one more call-in vote call-in question and it looks like Jen is still typing it it might be finished and after that then we'll move to your closing statements and Sarah we'll start with you for this the question is disabled people could contact this is a quote I think they're quoting yeah disabled people could contact him and he could help them fill out the form was said by one of the candidates and the question is do they realize that effort and the lack of dignity and it sounds like he is well this is a comment it's not a question so I'll leave that part out um so Sarah yeah I mean I I think we need to stop and put ourselves in the shoes of of somebody with some sort of disability and and ask would we feel comfortable stepping up and saying no I want to exercise my right to vote I don't care if I'm inconveniencing you because you have to bring me the ballot there are so many organizations out there that are helping states compare best practices in terms of how to provide ballot access to people with visual imperities people with physical imperities and we need to make sure that we are adopting those and you know it's not always easy for for some of our small towns to make those accommodations but if there's anything that we can do from the Secretary of State's office to give that ballot access to folks I want to make sure that we're pursuing that thank you Brooke yeah um the tone of the question seemed to be that by having the ability of shut-ins and handicapped folks being able to request folks to come out and assist them with their ballot with somehow demeaning and I think that's far from the intent of the law or or the intent of the justice of the peace that are involved envision a blind person we don't have braille ballots and so the current only way that that's handled is the Secretary of State has sent out to every town and maybe sometimes got more than one but it looks like a little game console where the person's supposed to come in and they press one of three little buttons and the thing is interactive with them I know my town of Washington got one and the only person that's ever used it is the assistant town clerk to test it out it's never been used and it's minus thing in many towns that these this wasn't used whereas the justice of the peace one from each party goes to the homes of the blind physically impaired and lets them fill out their ballot and if they're unable to is when that the two just as the peace in concert will assist that person in filling out their ballot there's nothing demeaning about this it's it's you know it's something that we're treating the the blind in the handicapped in the shut-ins with with a great degree of dignity in allowing them to be or making sure that they're able to vote thank you thank you I think our timekeeper the timing got a little off no you didn't I think it didn't reset thank you very much both of you we are now at the close of the program so I'd like to give you each a minute for your closing statement or if there's anything that you would have liked to have had addressed that didn't happen and we'll start with you brook a minute is very short time so I I don't think I'll address the shortcomings of our discussions my name is brook page and I'm from the town of Washington Vermont and I very much look forward to being your next secretary of state if you privilege me with your with your vote and and elect me I'm there's concerns there's problems across the secretary of state's office but they're not problems that can't be addressed and resolved and that's really what I want to do I don't I'm not looking at this as being some sort of stepping stone to hire office I have no I'm 70 years old for crying out loud and and you know a couple years or maybe two terms in the secretary of state's office is as much as I think it would be necessary to resolve the issues that I see in that office and then I will happily go on to my somewhat belated retirement thank you for having me here tonight thank you look forward to seeing other people down the road thank you brook Sarah so thank you so much for having us tonight this has been a great conversation I I think just in closing I I want to say I'm really excited to bring my 18 years of public service experience to the role of the secretary of state's office I've led on many of the most complicated and complex issues that have come through the legislature in recent years including sexual harassment legislation modernizing our sexual assault statutes making sure that first responders have post-traumatic stress coverage when they get an injury coming to our rescue and of course on climate action and these are complex and thorny issues that I think are are most appropriately resolved in a robust democracy and that's why I'm so excited to shift my focus to the office of secretary of state to make sure that we continue to have free fare and accessible elections to make sure that our office runs smoothly and gives good customer service to Vermonters thank you Sarah Copeland hands us brook page thank you both for being here um and to our audience um election day is November 8th and you should have received your ballot in the mail by now if you haven't received one call your town clerk or city clerk and thank you for joining us tonight the best thing you can do to protect our democracy is go out there and vote good night