Welcome everybody. Today we're going to present you introducing for Descombe, Depcombe 13 in Switzerland with Giacomo Catenati, Phil Huck, Didier Rabout, Colm Stirling. Okay, so welcome to our presentation. We want to give you a short impression about what to expect from next year's and in the end there will also be some time if you have any questions. First, yeah, we kind of know our country but there are... we're not good at advertisement so we searched the web and found something for you. So next, Depcombe is going to be in Switzerland. We're now here and yeah. Come on here to Europe. You see Europe, it's quite small on the world map and then in the heart of Europe you see this very small green point and there's Switzerland. It's... just to notice it's not here, that's Sweden. Yeah, if you zoom in that's Switzerland. We have four languages you can see. There's French here, there's Italian down there, there's Romanchic region in the Violet area and there's some German too in the other parts. And if you apply probability you would think it would be in the German part, you're wrong. Where we will have Depcombe is here in the French part. What's the region? It's the Tura Mountains. Typical Tura mountains are Karl, how do you say in English? That's quite near to the venue, the Graduvant. One possible location for the day trip. We haven't planned it yet but maybe we have great cheese. We have hard cheese and smelly cheese and soft cheese and not so smelly cheese, not like the French, they only have this smelly cheese. So we have great wine, maybe the French have the better wine, I don't know, but we have wine. We have absent that's some sort of liquor and we have some watches. I hear they're mostly produced in Asia nowadays but they're still called Swiss watches. We have a like too if you don't like mountains and yeah, the Graduvant. And then we went, you know, Switzerland is expensive, so we went looking for a venue and we found this and we think it's great. And so yeah, we have a nice country but there are no windows, I'm so sorry. But then yeah, we went looking a bit more and we found this. So we're happy to not have that kind of in the bunkers but somewhere else. But still we also have this and that's real. Yeah, you won't have single rooms if we stay at our venue.  There are some betters but it's either like this or like four to six person rooms and we have very few smaller rooms but not too many. That's the whole venue from above. It's here probably we will have one talk room. The other one will be in this building. The smaller buildings around here are all the accommodation dorms, maybe some hack labs. They all have smaller rooms. We have more beds up here and more hack lab-ish rooms there and in the middle you can see you can do sports. There's a nice area. There's also an outside arena somewhere here. You can see it really, yeah, to have bigger sessions if possible. Yeah, so we have actually three airports around Switzerland that are quite well connected internationally. The closest one is Geneva. It's one hour thirty from Montmarcue which is here by train. The other one, the biggest one is Zurich. It's about three hours from the venue and there's another one in Basel which is up here somewhere. Yeah, which is about the same distance as Zurich. We're planning to have Debcon in these two weeks. These dates are not set yet so it may be one or two dates earlier or later but the weeks are mostly set. We didn't sign the contract yet so it may change but we don't expect it to. Why should you come? Yeah, we have a welcoming country. We have smallish cities. The biggest city is Zurich. It's half a million inhabitants maybe probably. If you take the whole metropolitan area of Zurich it's about one million so no big cities in Switzerland. We're multilingual so if you speak one of our languages maybe you can understand and communicate with the people. We have lakes, mountains and alcohol and we have Debcon. I hope the most important thing for you is that we have Debcon. We have Debcon in a typical Swiss environment not in a big city. We have it outside of the city in a natural environment as you've seen. Of course besides this as every time we try to make a really great technical conference for all of the view. But we're four persons here. There are some more already home in Switzerland. We have a global team that helps us but it's not enough. We need your help to make this happen. Join the Debcon team if you want to help. It works mostly over IRC and on mailing lists so maybe just connect to the channels, stay in there and if there's something discussed or some tasks pop-ups where you think oh I might be able to help there, chime in. If you have contacts to potential sponsors, we need your contacts please get in touch with us. I guess you're all working or most of you, some of you are all working in some company that is somehow interested in Debian. Maybe they consider sponsoring us and you might have heard about this pent-up thing and I'm not talking about casino over there or over there. I am talking about this crappy web software and we really want to replace it but we need hackers. So if you're not interested in doing organizing work or whatever but you're great in doing technical work that might be an opportunity for you. So are there questions? So Lidia is going to answer the questions. The answer is no. So how many beds and can we camp out? Can you repeat the question? How many beds are there and can we camp out in tents? So the venue has 326 beds yeah. And can we sleep in tents? The camping is not yet decided it's been discussed with the venue proprietary and we don't know yet. But we are in discussion. Okay what kind of weather should we expect? The weather you can expect is the weather we have shown on the pictures. So it's mostly summer and I mean as here you have some from time to time rain but it's probably be a good weather. But it's not planned yet. Will there be more private accommodations? In the venue there are some two beds or some I think one or two single bedrooms. So if that's private enough we have this. Other than that not really within the venue. But is there a hotel nearby then? If 20 minutes by car is nearby then yes. It's summertime. How hot is hot and how hot is it during the day during the night? Not as hot as here. No the usual weather in Switzerland at that time is something like 25 degrees in the day and it can go down maybe to 18 in the night something like that so quite reasonable I think. But what's the altitude there? The altitude of the lake is something like 400 meters and the lake will be also really probably tempered so something like 18 to 20 degrees the water so and it's 10 minutes walk from the venue. Yes so the venue is at the same level as the lake it's not on a mountain looking over the lake it's at the level of the lake. Well no the venue is slightly higher from the lake so you have to really go down something like 50 meters from the venue to the lake. And can people camp there as an alternative to the accommodation if they want to bring a tent? So within the venue it's currently in discussion and hasn't been decided yet and in the region there are probably campings that people could hire on their own so it's but it these are open questions for now. To have read an expectation about the local sponsors Can you repeat? Local companies want an interesting sponsor at Debcombe? I mean we have expectations if we can reach them that's another question. We have some very preliminary contacts with one or two companies that are in principle willing to sponsor something but we didn't talk about amounts and everything. Are there enough trees to hang a hammock? Is it allowed? And finally do you think it's cold enough that maybe we don't need to keep the refrigerators open? Maybe it's a lot I don't know if it's allowed we didn't discuss this but also it might be quite cold in the night so you really need a good sleeping bag and it might rain so it's not like you will be able to count on it not having rain all night. So we get the idea that there's absinthe you mentioned it a couple of times. What's the local beer like? Is there any local beer and how expensive is it? The beer yeah so there are quite a plenty of local beers produced there and we have all international beers the usual price for a beer in a restaurant is something like four Swiss francs three to four Swiss francs which is three to four dollars basically for two and two well for a third of a liter. If you buy just normal local beer lager or whatever then it's like one and a half dollar per small bottle in the store. Thanks. And we don't know yet. What about train stations? How far are them? Okay so you can go back to the map. It's impressive. The Turic and Geneva they have train stations directly at the airport that are connected to all the major cities in Switzerland so if you come from Geneva you will have a train directly each half hour to Ivedon Liban and from there it's about 20 hours 20 minutes by bus and the bus stop is like 500 meters from the venue on a bit bumpy road but yeah and from Zurich it's the same but the connection from Tunas Hotel and then the connection is yeah a bit more you have to change or you have to go to Ivedon and come from here. There are quite a few newish parents this year it seems so I was wondering if there's any possibility of making some room for us to organize a crash. Can you repeat? I didn't understand. I'm terribly sorry. There are a few people who have produced Little Dewey and I it's this year and we were wondering if it was going to be possible to find some sort of space to organize a crash amongst ourselves. What we can offer is the space and we would like someone else to organize this without too much involvement for us but we have enough plenty of rooms where it's possible to have that. We have really no problem with rooms because all these all the smaller buildings down there they all have like common rooms because they are built for like school classes having a camp and just renting one of the houses. They also all have small kitchens if you want to prepare something. Fair enough and another question. Have you considered hedging the international exchange rates for the inevitable collapse of the euro and the dollar? So yeah we are going to buy millions and billions of euros to stabilize the exchange rate. We don't know where to take them but yeah. I was gonna suggest that I mean at the moment the Swiss franc is pegged to the euro and it has been for almost a year so as the euro has been falling the franc has been falling with it but if that peg is removed it could go up again so we could hedge by buying the raw materials in advance at a predictable cost like the beer and the food. Yeah I'd suggest we'd rather start building a bike shed here down and then maybe paint it red or maybe blue I don't know. But it is it is a serious thing to anticipate for people coming from other places because it could be a shock. The franc moved by 10% in one day when they did the peg so we should anticipate a little bit. Yeah so to be serious again I think if it's about the cost of the individuals to come here and they can they feel free to do whatever you want to ensure your exchange rate risks but I think that's the thing outside of that conference for our most of our expense if I don't think it matters that much because most of our budget will be paid in Swiss francs the vast the hugest amount will be renting the venues so we're not in danger of the concerning the exchange I think. Can a volleyball court be set up? Set up what? Volleyball court. Volleyball. So there are like two fields in there we have seen pictures of setups like volleyball or tennis or something like that but it's it's a thing we haven't really discussed because we were also planning to use a space for a bar so we have to see the priorities. There was the question brought up on ISC about whether how liberal the people are there with respect to skinny dipping? Skinny dipping in the sea? Skinny dipping in the sea is strictly forbidden in Switzerland that's why they don't have a sea. To be honest I think it's a question we haven't asked ourselves yet so I cannot really answer but another thing I can say is that the whole venue will be completely for DEBCONF with only DEBCONF attendees 24-7 so we can do all the noise we want if we respect the sleep of other attendees but I mean the whole venue is completely for DEBCONF so if someone wants to go in the forest here and sleep naked then... Okay cool that was the very next question I was going to ask was were we going to have the whole place to ourselves.  So the two talk rooms are somehow now planned like half of this building and the other one would be that building this one would be the biggest one we the house is divided in the while the room is divided in two and the idea was to have in the first half the lunch place and then the second half the talk room and we planned that for example the opening ceremony and the closing ceremony we would use the whole space to have everyone in but I think something like 150 in the biggest talk room something like that would fit. Okay also how much parking is the on-site I know there's you should expect there's going to be a lot of us driving down from the UK for example you know can we park reasonably nearby safely. So first of all we drive on the right as the rest of Europe. Now there are like there are like 10 parking places here but there were the venue is discussing building a new parking and we don't know yet but it's they have already had several times many people coming in cars so it's a concern for us too I think we would find a probable solution. There are two more questions from ISC is there a sauna? No, not that we know of but it might be buildable. And what is the cell phone coverage? We have tests or something like that. The cell phone coverage we haven't tested but I think it's probably Swisscom standard 4j thing. I think voice is coverage with all providers I don't know about data. That's for sure basic gprs but I don't know about 3G. I walked in late so you may have answered this already. What's the deal with Debian Day and getting locals to turn up and things because this is in the middle of nowhere isn't it? So our corporate answer is it's not been decided yet and currently running ideas is to have Debian Day in a university or high school well high level school nearby and just bring the speakers there but it's not settled down yet. What about the network infrastructure? I mean probably you have good connection to internet but the between buildings that they have internet they have connection they have an internal network that come of things. So for now we are well they are using IP over over cows so it's quite slow. Over cows? Yeah but no I mean currently the venue has VDSL provided and we are just discussing getting fiber here and they already have wired network to at least this and these and these buildings but not all bungalows and then it's just a matter of wiring all down with that we're within that camp. But the talk rooms are connected somehow. Okay we didn't decide the network set up yet but we are suddenly if we want to allow to wire everything we want that we discussed that and yeah we are quite sure that we will have a fiber connection to the venue built by next summer it's not built yet but yeah. Have you considered allowing people to pay in Bitcoin? To pay what? To pay in Bitcoin. Bitcoin? The correct answer is no yeah. No we haven't considered it and probably no. And on the Airstere side of things if you want a sauna maybe if the wood can be used a little bit maybe we could build a sweat lodge. Maybe. Yeah we will definitely do a back shed both somewhere here. Okay so any more questions or? Okay so well. Everything will be fine. Everything will be fine. Everything will be sharp on time. We expect to see you all there the same day arriving on the same train that comes from the same plane. Thank you very much for for this introduction to the to the Swiss venue and well yeah it's been a very nice presentation I think we got everybody excited to be there and well thanks very much