But is up Friday people What's up internet? I just realized Shannon then we have a story about whiskey and I didn't pour myself any whiskey I know You're fired Roger. Why didn't you bring me any whiskey? Also, I don't like whiskey. I'm also not in the near proximity. Gosh. I don't like any of that. Yeah, but I have some Any any grain alcohol generally I don't like you're against the grain alcohol. I like Like rum that's pretty It's pretty much it I feel like the internet is gonna be disappointed in me because During my whole clean out of my house thing for selling stuff on eBay and getting rid of stuff for you know The good Samaritan or whatever I went through our liquor cabinet and I was like you ever gonna drink this and my husband goes No, and I'm like, okay. So I just poured out tons and tons and tons of liquor. Oh my gosh It's like I didn't even know what any of them were.  I don't know I don't drink whiskey either I drink wine and beer. So I was like I have we well I lean drinks whiskey So we have whiskey and we go through the whiskey We do have some bottles of stuff that we don't really drink like there's a bottle of amaretto From our wedding. Oh, wow My mom used to drink that all the time we got married in 2003. Oh Wow That alcohol we had in my get rid of that at the at that hotel when we do the Vegas thing Oh, yeah, I haven't touched it.  Yeah Somewhere in the shelf we moved it. We moved it with us. It's in the shell Wow Like we don't really Build drinks, but I don't drink Well, the amaretto especially is galling which are you right? I should probably just get rid of it, but it seems like such a waste because We bought Liquor from Costco to stock our bar at the reception. Yeah, because I don't know if Costco still does this But at the time if you didn't open a bottle you could take it back to Costco and get your money back So so that was the plan was like, well, let's let's stock up. So we have plenty We won't obviously open everything most of what got opened was things we would drink that was left over But the amaretto got open probably for one drink and then And then we were stuck with this full bottle I feel like you should donate it to somebody who will appreciate it Yeah, who needs to donate liquor too, right? Like there's not like a good not like a charity. That's like we need liquor That's a real shame I feel like that'd be a really good business. Oh, yeah the liquor charity Yeah, a severe deficiency in amaretto at this charity if anyone has any to spare, please Yeah, dark redeemer says he drinks amaretto and a lot of drinks Maybe I should just learn more drinks that take amaretto because it's not something you're supposed to drink alone So so he brings bacon. I could be a charity Feel free to donate to me. All right Let's get this show on the road. Are you ready? I'm ready Daily tech news show is powered by you. We don't take any Advertisements we don't need to because you guys support us if you're not supporting us yet And you're willing to find out more that daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Friday, June 9th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt Shannon Morse Alongside to tell you the tales of technology Shannon.  That's great. Is that what we're doing today Friday tales Yeah, we we've got a synthetic tongue that drinks whiskey and Big robots and emotional robots and and all kinds of stuff to talk about Shall we start with a few tech things you should know about? Let's do it Sirius XM announced it will invest four hundred eighty million dollars in Pandora Sirius XM gets three seats on the nine-person Pandora board including the chairmanship Pandora itself is selling ticket fly to invent Bright it's selling ticket fly for two hundred million. It paid 450 million Wow Little discount there selling at a loss. Yeah, yeah, the European Commission opened an investigation into Qualcomm's 38 billion dollars to acquire automotive chip maker and XP semiconductors Don't want Qualcomm corner in the market on automotive chips. No, and Japan passed a lot Friday that allows owners to rent out Private homes to third parties for up to a hundred eighty nights a year creating a clear legal framework for services like Airbnb in Japan It's about time given I've had friends staying in Airbnb is in Japan for a while I stated an Airbnb in Japan last year. I had no idea there was an unclear legal framework going on I'm glad they fixed that little gray area there All right, we got some more top stories and Taylor Swift has once again made the tech news Taylor's post music catalog is available on all the major music streaming platforms as Rich Strafilino told me this morning Your long national nightmare is over You can get Taylor Swift on both the paid and free tiers of Spotify Swift pulled her music off Spotify in 2014 as well as a bunch of the other streaming services She essentially went Apple music exclusive because of a dispute over royalty payments In fact, if I remember right some of her back catalog was still on Ardeo because it was that long ago that she pulled her music off Because Ardeo was still a service Swift tweeted that the move was made to celebrate 10 million sales of her album 1989 It's been out for a couple years now. I'm certain none of this is related to Katy Perry's new album Containing the song swish-wish being released on Friday See, I'm so glad that I read Twitter in the morning because had I heard this from you Tom earlier I would have been like well, it sounds completely unrelated It would if you didn't know the beef. I didn't know there was drama there Yeah, my wife my wife keeps me very up-to-date on the Katy Perry Taylor Swift beef Yeah, I just stay up-to-date with Swift on security. That's about it And Intel blog post celebrating 39 years since the 8086 processor was launched including a couple paragraphs about emulation of Intel's x86 instruction set architecture invoking the ghost of transmitter and Pointedly saying we do not welcome unlawful infringement of our patents and we fully expect other companies to continue to respect Intel's intellectual property rights. Can we just give them a little snap there? Microsoft announced Windows 10 for arm with Qualcomm as a partner that would use emulation to run Win32 apps So, okay, we don't know the details of this version of Windows 10 and how the emulation is gonna work I assume that Microsoft and Intel have a very very close and good working relationship. It just seems weird for Intel to get all caddy You know, right? I mean this post is celebrating 39 years of the 8086 processor by saying it's been almost 40 years It feels like they looked for an excuse to make a post so they could put in this vaguely worded threat It really does like Come on Intel Katy Perry Taylor Swift beef was weird Or didn't know anything about it. No, this is this is This is an interesting move because it's like a warning shot over the bow, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly And I I I can't imagine Microsoft not having their P's and Q's in order So would this imply that Intel has been consulted and has tried to tell Microsoft We don't think we don't think this is going to pass our Intellectual property test. I don't know. Yeah, it definitely seems like a warning shot But I guess we'll find out if some strange news comes out sooner or later about into Intel suing Microsoft Well, yeah, keep an eye out for these these these Arm-based Qualcomm processor-based Windows 10 Devices are supposed to come out according to copy text by the end of the year. So See what happens when they do Speaking of Microsoft Microsoft Windows build 16215 arrived for Windows insiders on the fast ring Thursday A bunch of changes in here that will be showing up in the fall creators update for everybody later this year Action Center now has a separate section for apps. You can pin websites to the taskbar using the edge browser Cortana can create reminders from photos. So like if you take a picture of a concert poster, it can say Oh, yeah, let me let me add a reminder to you that that concert is happening stuff like that You can also use something called the lasso feature to just circle Something with let's say you're looking at a PDF and make a reminder out of that The handwriting panel gets more gestures better editing emoji support automatic handwriting detection There's a dictation option now along with a bunch other on-screen keyboard improvements for when you're using Windows in tablet mode Microsoft also announced the Skype for Linux version 4.3. We'll stop working July 1st Linux users will then be forced to use the Skype beta which is a beta and Also lacks like screen sharing and a bunch of the advanced video and audio controls. Yeah, that stinks I'm so upset about this because I've used Skype so many times for you know Interviews and guest talks and stuff like that and the only thing I use at work is Linux So I realize I'm a very very small percentage here that uses Skype on Linux But we are out there and I'm pretty sad that they're taking away like the screen sharing capability, which is Very common for the type of work that I do And in the olden days this would be you know hoots and hollers of how Microsoft is always trying to undermine Linux and everything but Microsoft's a member of the Linux Foundation. Why are they acting this way? Exactly. They just brought over like the the command shell and all the Commands and everything so like what's I don't know what's going on there. I guess they're just giving up on them. Well It could be just just trying to come up with another side It could be that the old code base for Skype, which they have been constantly Redoing the Skype code base even on Windows the old code base for Skype for Linux just wasn't going to continue to work They wanted to make a hard break But why it must be that the old code base still relies on things like super nodes and everything and and the changes They want to make in how Skype is served to everybody just won't work with that old client And they want to they want to give everybody a fair heads up rather than just have it one day stop working But it does it is unfortunate that they don't have a 4.4 or a 5.0 version that they can just come out with instead They've only got a beta. Huh, that's you actually might be on to something there That's that's that's that's what I smell Moving on and I'm going to do this name. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess oovey boons oovey boons. I definitely Hate Heidelberg Heidelberg for sure Heidelberg University has developed a synthetic tongue that can differentiate between Whiskies based on brand age blend in country of origin You mix a sample into a fluorescent solution and a unique reaction is given for each whiskey So you will need to test known whiskeys one time to figure out what reaction goes with which whiskey The solution was able to distinguish 33 different whiskies from each other Boons plans to create a version for red wine as well It could also be adapted to detect counterfeit perfumes or drugs. I love that story I think it's so cool and it's so I hope it doesn't take away from the ability of Like, you know, why knows to be able to do their own taste tests whenever you go to restaurants and stuff like that Wine cut of sewers because why knows generally I think of as someone with a bindle and a paper sack around there Maybe I'm a widow As long as you're proud of it. Yeah, I yeah small yeas and stuff like that. Obviously we'll still have a job Yeah, telling you what? Red wine pairs well with your meat and all of that but but I think what this is good for on the whiskey side And boy good job uve boons for actually using whiskey because god everybody talking about this it on the whiskey side It could be oh did is this a real bottle like I've got some verified bottles And that's one of the weaknesses in it. It doesn't know the whiskey off the bat You have to you have to like you put in the whiskey and go. Okay. I've got bullet rye That's the reaction I get with bullet rye. I'm certain this is a bottle of bullet rye But then you could buy something maybe online and test it and go did I really get What I was paying for is this an 80, you know, is this a $80 bottle of scotch here? Or is this a $20 bottle of scotch that they poured an $80 bottle of scotch's bottle Stuff like that and then when you start thinking about you know detecting counterfeit perfumes or counterfeit drugs, which can You know hurt people's health Oh, yeah, absolutely And if you if you were able to develop this into like a small personal form factor that could fit in like I don't know your pocket or purse or something you could totally take it out with you like go to a restaurant or something And use it there That would be really neat. Yeah, if they could make a compact version of it and now now you've got me thinking Okay, if you could make a compact version of this solution where you just put a drop in and immediately gets the reaction Could you start using some machine learning in there? Yes Rain it like once you've started to train it. Could it then start to deduce like well, I know these Isla malts Taste you have these profiles. So even though I don't recognize this one with my database I'm going to guess it's an isla malt You know like that They could make it cloud capable so that you can share your your findings with other people And then you can verify whiskies even if you haven't touched your specific device Right how it or what the specific whiskey is right because presumably it's you don't have to be secure To react the same way each way. Yeah. Yeah, you just need a I wonder if they're already working on a shared database like that We can just build the plan for their business right here No, this is this is very cool. Um, so yeah, good job Heidelberg University The nikkei asian review reports shipping firms mitzui osk lines and nipon yusen are working with shipbuilders including japan marine united To develop 250 self piloting cargo ships Artificial intelligence would plot to save the shortest and most fuel efficient routes and could be in service by 2025 The ai would also be used to predict maintenance needs and reduce malfunctions The first ship will retain a small crew to oversee certain operations But the end goal would be for these things to just be remotely controlled by a captain who's on shore Is he a captain if he's on shore though? Like I said, that's a that's a ponderer This is not the only effort to do this Rolls Royce is developing on man cargo ships as well with an operations date of 2020 There's some other german companies working on this according to big jim in our analyst slack. So Uh, we are well on the road or on the waves to having self-piloting cargo ships I think this is incredible. I think it's so cool. Um, the one thing I would worry about would be, you know, um your ocean wildlife if this would affect them in any way, but I I don't know how cargo ships work with actual Captains on board. So I couldn't make a comparison there The only thing I really know about cargo ships is that you can track them with a little Like software to find radio from your own computer and now you can only see which ones are coming into the cargo bay You could hack it and you can't send out any packets to them. Yeah Except for literal literal packets. Yeah I think this, uh I that's a really intriguing question I would imagine that The cargo ships themselves are going to operate in the water Pretty much the same as they do with humans on board But there might be an increased capacity because this is more efficient which could have an impact on the ocean on the marine ecosystem and At the same time because you can control them more finely You may be able to do studies and figure out. Okay, if we use these routes, it limits the impact Oh, yeah, I'd like to see some research on that Hmm might be a positive influence on our yeah, it could it could be used that way Yeah Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, uh, you can subscribe to daily tech headlines It's available on the anchor app at anchor dot fm. You can get that app anchor app Let's you do calls into stations I got a call today on daily tech headlines that I answered you can Favorite a bunch of different people and listen to their shows scott johnson jeff canada annie gauss a bunch of folks So get that there You can also get daily tech headlines on the amazon echo or at a podcast reader of your choice at dailytech headlines dot com Now you may be sitting there saying hold on what about boston dynamics? Isn't that the big news of the day? Well, yes soft bank Announced plans to acquire boston dynamics the makers of the big dog robot as well as tokyo based shaft or shaft ch aft From alphabet shaft specializes in bipedal robot designs and of course boston dynamics specializes in robots that terrify you on youtube Also known as mimicking animal and human movement due to military contracts boston dynamics will likely require regulatory approval From the committee on foreign investment in the united states prior to the acquisition But presumably they have done their due diligence and believe they can pass that regulatory review Which brings up the question Why couldn't alphabet Make something work with boston dynamics and if alphabet couldn't what makes soft bank think they can It's kind of a conundrum how Google or alphabet has been able to acquire So many different companies and build them into amazing things and yet When it comes to boston dynamics, it's like a puzzle for them Like how how can we take boston dynamics and turn it into something that's profitable? So even with this um google I believe they said that they Yeah, it was a quote from uh, jonathan rosenberg who said Who was heading up google's replicant effort to build consumer friendly robots? He said we as a startup of our size cannot spend 30 Plus percent of our resources on things that take 10 years I mean that's A lot of startups take 10 years to actually build something that is profitable But they build it out with things like venture funding and and you know A credit and things like that nature. So why when it comes to robotics? Were they like, oh, well, we bought you a few years ago, but we're gonna give up I think boston dynamics particularly is a victim of The larry page crackdown, you know a few years ago larry page took over as ceo and immediately started shutting down projects Saying okay, we've we spent some time throwing spaghetti Sometimes we spent some time throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what stuck Uh, the stuck things are staying android is staying ad sense is staying But a lot of this other stuff isn't They they kept a few long bets. I mean they're still doing drone delivered internet That's not something that's going to turn a profit tomorrow So there was something with these robots where they're saying yeah, this is really cool But the long-term research doesn't have a trajectory that matches with any of our other business models And it's not going to turn a profit uh in the next, you know, a couple years So you either need to change or we spin you out and now we know the answer They spun them out. Yeah the other part of this to consider don't forget andy rubin The creator of android was in charge of that replicant effort at the beginning a lot of things like boston dynamics were brought into google Because of andy rubin who also then left and now he's making doing a startup that's trying to reinvent phones and home automation and and more in line with the android operating system stuff that he had done before So there's a question there of like why did andy rubin give up on the robotics section? Uh as well So I feel like there there might be two answers to this conundrum that we have one could be that boston dynamics is very much focused on selling to other businesses and Alphabet has been building out things like android which are very consumer friendly So boston dynamics maybe doesn't necessarily fit into that branding that alphabet is going for Alternatively, maybe it's because a lot of people are fearful of these very large boston dynamics robots I mean when you look at them, they're kind of scary looking for me. I think they're fascinating I think they're amazing I would love to see one in person because it doesn't scare me But I can understand why you know based on Seeing past hollywood movies like the terminator and everything that we could look at boston dynamics robots and think Oh, we don't want this to happen So maybe alphabet is trying to keep their branding safe and keep it a positive name by You know leaving boston dynamics in the dust just selling them off to somebody else and makes somebody else Uh have to deal with them as their own problem I think you're on to something there because when you look at it Boston dynamics is accused of not making enough money But at the same time as we just mentioned they have to go under regulatory approval Because of military contracts, right? So it may not be just business oriented, but maybe particularly government and military oriented business that Alphabet did not want to get into yeah for whatever reason uh, and Maybe even boston dynamics researchers were like we don't really care how you sell our stuff We're just making really cool robots and that's a that's that's a Not uncommon researcher attitude Which alphabet may be saying well, you need to stop making these things that really fit towards a particularly military use Yeah, soft bank may may look at this and say we've got ideas For how to use this That would be non-military and and the reason to bring that up is soft bank owns all dubber and robots makers of pepper Uh pepper is that cute little robot that can read and respond to human emotions and Now that I think about it A lot of these videos of the big dog from boston dynamics show us kicking The big dog to try to to knock it over. Uh, if we add pepper's emotional Responses to big dog. It could be a disaster It could be stop kicking big dog right away We might end up with some silent-esque problems for planet earth here Sorry, I got sidetracked there. Uh where I was going with that is one of the things with pepper is she's very human In her relationships with us Uh, but but looks like a pawn, right? Just kind of she really does she doesn't realize too I mean she's short and small, but uh, I got to Interact with one shortly in japanese, so I had no clue what it was saying to me, but Uh, there was one set up in a mall So it was giving directions to people and asking Answering questions about the stores Basically, but she would stand there and she would look at your face And if you wave at her she would wave back and she she would just be like You know, here's the information about where you're trying to get to and it was interesting Watching how it worked so I can understand now after realizing that soft bank owns pepper And owns those robotics that They might have a potential for boston dynamics that maybe alphabet just did not see or did not want to get involved with Yeah, because what one of the things that boston dynamics robots are are famous for is the ability to walk and move Like real creatures. Yeah, don't forget. They also bought schaft, which specializes in bipedal robot designs Uh, so I mean all of this looks to me like masiyoshi sun who owns soft bank and is famous For being able to spot a trend and invest in it at the right time It's hey, uh, I've got the emotions robot And now I've got the bipedal robot and the robot that moves like a person like I can make something That's pretty compelling out of these three parts. And let's not forget to a soft bank was Back in the early 2000s. They weren't that big of a name. But when they ended up, um Receiving the iphone as the only uh, the only carrier in japan to have the iphone back in like 2012 or 2013 It was a huge gamble for them But they decided to take that gamble and it worked out really really well in their favor and now they're I believe the largest carrier in japan so If they continue on this route of making positive efforts and making the right decisions and the right gambles They could definitely have something with boston dynamics as long as they let boston dynamics still be who they really are So what you're saying is soft banks selling zd tv to paul allen was the right move for them Maybe Unfortunately, I think you're probably right in this case. Uh, but but yeah, uh, we'll we'll keep an eye on this as well Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com got a bunch of messages here rick from the about to get hot st Louis writes in regards to yesterday's episode about amazon drive Concluding its unlimited plan in january this year. I signed up for amazon's cloud drive deciding I needed an offsite backup for my photo collecting collection spanning the last 15 years And taking up about 1.2 terabytes if you remember the story yesterday amazon has taken its unlimited plan and made it a terabyte So it's 60 dollars a year for a terabyte and then another 60 dollars a year gets you a second terabyte The process of backing this much data up over a 5 megabit per section connection took literally weeks And now I face the decision of canceling my subscription and looking for another provider or paying two times And soon maybe three times the cost if he gets up to two terabytes I mentioned this all because it seems none of the providers I've looked at provide any sort of migration tool from provider to provider Which starts making cloud backups for someone without a gigabit connection seem untenable I think until something along these lines is achieved or upstream bandwidth greatly increases 7 megabits per second seems to be the max in my area Large-scale cloud storage will have some hurdles Yeah, I can understand the issues here Personally, I just checked my cloud storage when I read about this amazon doing this change and i'm currently using 999 gigs on my cloud storage so on amazon really no mine's on spider oak So I luckily got in when they had Yeah, so it's unlimited Mine's unlimited So I got lucky there but half if they change it if spider oak every changes it all have to deal with the same issues and You know 60 bucks. I think is a fair price for a terabyte of storage online But of course you're going to run into the issue where people are storing more and more data every single year Because digital is becoming so much faster and so much easier So that one terabyte is becoming become Is going to become Couldn't talk there It's going to become rather small for most consumers right now. It's not but it will be in the near future And presumably amazon will keep up with that and and increase the amount Maybe make it a two terabytes for 60 dollars as it starts to get there one hopes How annoying is it though to be at 1.2 terabytes? Just over the limit like that We had a really good conversation in the analyst slack today about What what options there are we have a user who has 35 terabytes? So it's a really significant solution. He's not going to pay 60 dollars per terabyte for that Backblaze apparently is an option might be an option for you rick Because they can do things like ship you your backup if you're on slow connections I think bandwidth speed will slowly increase but it's uneven right now So it does suck if you're living in an area like rick does where you don't have the bandwidth So to look into backblaze But crash plan Also does not only unlimited backup, but also unlimited backup from things like your nas So you you don't have to send it just from one single computer right network storage I got an email from chip and surprisingly high-tech arkansas. I wouldn't be surprised arkansas is a lovely state He says hey tom and justin It's shannon today. Hi He says like yesterday showed justin wondered this is why he was addressing interesting when someone would radically change How we look at authentication? I saw a company called bio sig id Which uses behavioral biometrics to implement passwords by having you draw with your smartphone or tablet screen touch screen monitor Or even mouse your password It's easy to use accurate tied specifically to you and virtually impossible to duplicate your individual writing It can't be compromised forever like your unchangeable fingerprint or iris scan And if needed your password can be changed at any time and it requires no hardware It's a radically different yet radically simple way to do authentication. I don't work for bio sig id They just came to mind when listening to the topic if you want to check them out. They're at bio sig dash id.com But tom, what if you lose your fingers? That is a problem You'll have to learn to draw a different way With a note password recovery. Yeah, I mean this solves a lot of the problems with memorizing passwords And and because it can use that kind of machine learning to say like even if that's the right pattern It's not being drawn in the way that person would draw it is pretty interesting. So it kind of builds in another factor It's still having to have you remember to draw something Yeah, which I don't know I'm pretty terrible at drawing things in writing for that matter. So I prefer having an online digital password. Yeah, um We we spent yesterday trying to figure out why nobody's talking about getting rid of passwords anymore Uh and scott wrote in and said I think we should have all passwords work like two factor authentication tokens Have an app like aughty that when you want to log into a site You just use the password that is randomly generated every 30 seconds that way You have people using two factor authentication without them knowing and they don't use dumb passwords Well, the problem with that scott is then it becomes one factor If you're just using the aughty to log in. Yeah, you'd still want a second factor But it's a good idea. You would have to have a second aught factor authentication Especially just in case aughty got compromised or something Maybe that's where iris or fingerprint or even drawing a scribble comes in I mean that was project abacus from google was the whole thing was it was going to just know By the way you used your phone By the way you moved they were going to be able to tell you from someone else and then we run into the problems of Compromization. Yeah Uh, just a thought from nick. I have finished listening to your show One thought struck me when you all said you could see no obvious downside to facebook making it easier for constituents to bilaterally communicate with their representatives Would this influence elections now to put this in context? I'm based in the k and the polls for our general election closed in 30 minutes So he wrote this before the polls closed in the last week I have put a concerning amount of political pamphlets into the recycling bin I have no doubt that if the system you describe is implemented the local sitting member of parliament Would have been using this as an additional promotion slash election tool It also sounds like it would be a tool to be unavailable to his as yet unelected opponents Hence the potential to influence elections clearly the devil's in the details, but it would be interesting to see how this develops That's a question nick because any elected official can use Their official means of communication as in a campaign tool But there are laws against them using it in certain ways So maybe those laws need to expand to apply to these facebook town hall constituencies perhaps All right. Uh, well if you're wondering where len pralta is today folks, uh, he is in new york Being a very proud father as his son accepts an award at carnegie hall So i'm super proud of len and his son and congratulations to them I actually bought a copy of the award-winning art And you can too. You should go check it out len pralta store Dot com in the meantime. It was great having you here shannon Thank you. It's so exciting to be here as well. Really appreciate it Well, i'm glad we're going to be getting you back on a more regular basis. We kind of started figuring out a schedule here So, uh, in the meantime till the next time you're back Uh, where can people find you? You can find me on twitter. That's usually the place that i'm surviving most of my days. 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What should we call it? um jeff magical conundrums of cargo ships Showbot.tv I do not see magical conundrum of cargers. Let's get swifty.  Unfortunately. It was in massachusetts That's the name. Boston dynamics Big dog moves from ma to japan. I get it though california being alphabet Uh, I always like the ones that are focused on the main show Uh But got your tongue. Boston was too dynamic for alphabet That's funny been there done. I would change that to be a question, but I like it was boston too dynamic for alphabet Been there done the bot the bot robots company bank sees his soft bots Intel says 86 that x86 emulation Is darin back yet says the chat room? No Oh On software image, you know, it's very interesting. I think uh I think soft bank is betting on a multitude of things Um one is that there's going to be a higher there's going to be a higher demand for uh robots in japan as the population Gets older. I mean already like a quarter of the population's over 65 Yeah, they're gonna need they're gonna need automated systems for all the stuff that people do right now Um We run a bite ship Bites ship instead of a tight ship Bank see is a soft bot Alphabet kicks the big dog I really like boston was was boston too dynamic for alphabet. That's good. I'll vote for that Shannon, do you have a do you have a preference? That one's good. Boston was too Boston was too dynamic for alphabet Yeah Wicked In one minor alteration was boston too dynamic for alphabet Sounds like a batman cliffhanger Y'all never catch me batman And maybe they needed robots with more brawn than uh friendly face So a lot of those things like pepper are very cool for human interaction But they're also very limited in what you can actually do with them. Are you saying they're all ai and no brawn Yeah, kind of like they need something I mean, it's great to have a friendly chat with a robot that looks like a little anime fairy or something but You know, you need some to lift like a person or something especially in in in the disaster zones where Especially japan is subject to a number of earthquakes All in all parts of the country Especially that k.   I love sushi Nothing made me think you don't I just didn't know if you did or not. I've never seen you eat sushi I've never seen you eat Yes, you have Too many cooks too many we got a lot of We have a lot of food illusions in our titles It's because we're your park foodie also because we we uh We do the show shortly after lunch Or before dinner depending on where you're at Do you eat lunch?  Oh, so you have second breakfast and all that. Yeah, I'm a hobbit your your hyper metabolism I guess so I usually have cereal for breakfast and then like Some light meal for lunch while I'm at work and then I get home at like five and I'll have another meal And then I'll have a late dinner You know, actually I've now that I'm thinking about it. I kind of do the same thing. I have Uselessly for for breakfast and coffee And then I'll have like salad or something for lunch Then I'll always have like a Lara bar or something in the afternoon I'll have some other kind of snack around five or six Like bread and butter crackers And then I'll have like my dinner whatever that is later. Well, it's good to kind of break up your Meals during the day as long as they're lighter meals that are within the guidelines I don't do that though. I just eat whatever the heck. I feel like eating You're just eating ice cream every time like yesterday.  That's just water mostly in in roughage Eventually, there were fruits and stuff in the salad. No, believe me I used to eat salads all the time for lunch and all it does is make you hungry for dinner Seriously, I was so hungry yesterday. You would have to put like half roast chicken on your salad to make That's how you do it. I used to go to lee's deli I'd make a salad and then I'd put like the fish or the fried chicken or something on it. It's perfect I don't like eating a lot of meat for lunch though. So I don't even know what I should eat for lunch Lighter would fish be light enough for you. You have sushi. Yeah, I could probably eat some fish Yeah Did you not eat lunch Roger No, I didn't I ate I ate a big bowl of My stupid raisin bran with no raisins mixed in with uh, the generic rice krispies They eat that it's not raisin bran if it doesn't have raisins though. Yeah, but it says raisin bran on the box But it doesn't have raisins I think it's one of those. I don't know because it's Just short change the raisins like raisin bran Kellogg's is two scoops and this is like five pieces of raisin Oh, so this isn't Kellogg's raisin. No, this is the supermarket brand Zo brings bacon or zoe brings bacon said Salad isn't bacon. You could put bacon in a salad, but it would be a waste of good bacon I don't think that's a waste of good bacon. I think that is a perfect use Of some serious like for real bacon bits. So I believe that what you should do salad to be bacon on a bed of bacon No, that's so much bacon. You need to contrast.  It's ice it's iceberg fed pork That sounds really good with mayo on top instead of salad dressing Uh, yeah, it's called ranch Really tastes different Yeah, because there's stuff on it, but really it's just ranch Too much burger I've been cutting back on bacon. It's I think as I get older. I'm a little more sensitive to eating too much red meat Like I didn't eat sugar for a month and I lost five pounds. It was kind of cool That tells you a lot about how much sugar I usually eat No sugar sugar is a huge one.  Yeah. Well, so like My eileen does not do grocery shopping so I can 100 control what comes into this house, but Huh? Nice, that's great. Yeah No, I used to have a very bachelor like I would have a bag of Like spring mix a bag of spinach And then like I would have a pint of ice cream that would last me a month because I didn't eat that much But now like jen goes through like one of those three days a pain I can't eat that much ice cream I can I've literally had like a thing like one of those Half-gallon ones like sit in my freezer for over a year because I wouldn't I couldn't wouldn't eat go through it Because that's just the way I am and then I would like I wouldn't eat a lot of junk food I would just like well. I'm hungry. I'll just make toast and put like spinach in the middle add butter and eat it because that's but you know kept my weight down but the The life of a married man is entirely different Zoe's obsession with bacon is just like The trolling is so hard right now. It's okay trolling. It's her life It's it's it's not trolling when it comes directly from a bacon-wrapped heart it's That's what I love about it It's funny because uh, zoe brings bacon's british, so when it'd be like british Zoe brings bacon is british and loves coffee Yeah, but british loves coffee Okay, but you're missing the point like the stereotype is he Zoe brings bacon is very insistent on coffee it seems I got to try vegemite the correct way in australia on toast Yes, with butter. Yeah That's that's bogus. Everyone says that's the way now When I was there everyone ate it whatever which way most kids like it straight on bread And they'll just eat it that way. It's nice Yeah, um, although it also tastes good with olive oil my nephew's My nephew's fiance is australian and she brought some vegemite and she made us this avocado toast with vegemite. Oh smash Yeah Yeah Yeah, my thing is if you need to adulterate a food product with other foods So it's now delicious and you don't need that item How'd she make it? Sometimes it's the combination though like neither like avocado and vegemite on their own tastes different than when you put them together When you put them together, but I would eat avocado by itself But if you wouldn't get the same taste that's true But the thing is I don't find vegemite out of the jar palatable But if you found it palatable with avocado, then it's like, oh, yeah, I don't like eating salt alone But when I put salt in something in the right amount it tastes great And Also, vegemite is almost entirely salt. Yeah, it's so salty apparently it's good for you. It is Maybe It's an acquired taste Was it Was it toast with butter and vegemite and avocado or just trying to remember now I I made it once after she was gone because we had some avocados left over Uh, but I but I can't remember the process. I think it was Like yeah, I think she buttered the bread toasted it in the pan Then spread the vegemite and the avocado on it. I don't know that could be wrong I should remember just remember she needed a frying pan for it though I'm not gonna go that hardcore. I'll just stick my stuff in a toaster Yeah, just just put put when you took you have a toaster oven Put butter on it toast it and then you put the vegemite on top. Yeah I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna take it to work and make my co-workers eat it And then if you want the avocado, just take out the avocado Like make guacamole without anything in it and then just spread it on top of that I like, um like tough avocado slices Chew you I'll stick slices on top of the toast or you have the firm firm avocado Yeah firm from our avocados the ones that aren't already guacamole when you open them. Yeah, exactly I love the ones everybody guacamole. I love it that way There's a patent right being able to actually inject the lemon salt and pepper into an avocado so that you just peel it And it's guacamole. I don't like the salt. I like the lemon. I don't like the salt I'm very sensitive to salt too. I'm okay. You don't like too much salt. You're not telling me you don't like salt There could be a salt let me just say I don't like additional salt. How's that? Like I will not like I've seen people add salt to like oh, I gotta gotta play the eggs and Inside a toast. I think that's a different thing than what I was saying You put a light amount of salt in any guacamole. It makes it better. I know that's why I don't like most guacamole I like I prefer without I think you're having crappy guacamole. I think Well, then maybe I just have a tongue that tastes a wider You complain about salt at times where I'm like, I don't know I can't even taste salt I don't smoke What an interesting conversation that just built up over vegemite. I know, right? That's the brilliant That's my argument for everything like all this food's too salty the cook was smell. No, I know I know that's your figure I was like and I don't smoke so don't go there Yeah, Roger and I've been podcasting since 2005 if it doesn't show A little bit we've known each other even longer and we've done each other longer 2005. Wow. Yeah It's over 10 years for you guys It's almost an anniversary 12 years this october. I'm gonna hit 10 years next year Nice. That'll be my 10 years Well, yeah, my first podcast was march 2005 So I've passed my 12 years for buzz out loud and then the second podcast I ever did was east meets west Which is still going on nice. Yeah. Yeah Which we should probably schedule a recording for My first podcast was hack 5 and my first episode was real bad Yeah, trust me There were a few episodes in the early seasons where like The editor didn't edit something out and I just looked so dumb You're just like saying well, hold on. Wait a minute Blah blah blah blah and then I'm like, oh, I lost my train of thought. Let me start over Yeah, let me start over No, I edit so I make sure that stuff does not get it put in I love it when you're watching a tv show or listen to a podcast and you hear someone say, oh, we'll edit that out. Yeah, right? I tell patrick that all the time and then I don't edit anything out That's what Veronica doesn't be on sort and laser She only edits her she only edits her own mistakes out. She leaves mine in I don't care because she wants to keep it true That's right for for me Oh, I posted a new vlog today. I've I've been trying to keep up with my um Kardashian vlogs so I've been posting Videos on my personal youtube channel about the Kardashians No Okay, you're keeping up with the Kardashian. It was a joke. God. No, I get it now. Um, I was a little worried there for a second You know, are you kidding me? I don't even like I don't know their full names or anything. I saw you and I vlogged today too I tried to vlog that's right. You did Tony edit this in What was your about? Mine was about the mummy the mummy What was yours about It was about australia and giving a keynote Nice, which was cool All right, well, we're gonna head out of here. Thanks everybody for watching We will be back on monday with Veronica Belmont and we will leave in all her mistakes because it's live and uh Do you know when you're going to be back next shannon? Um, do we know that yet? We haven't decided it yet, but yeah, we'll have to I'll be back.


Of course you are. Your kidney is phenomenal. Look at this. Okay, we know that in the interstitial fluid, we've got this crazy concentration gradient. And the question is, as we're moving solutes in and out and as we're moving water in and out and changing the concentrations of the filtrate, how do we pick that up in the bloodstream? And it has to do with this amazing setup called a countercurrent exchanger. So watch. We know that the filtrate is coming in at 300 milliosmoles. And you can see that I'm back to our original drawing. I've got the fluid in the proximal convoluted tubule and it heads down into the descending loop of Henley. As it heads down, we know in the descending loop of Henley, we're going to send water out. That's going to concentrate the filtrate. The filtrate is going to get more and more concentrated. And we've done this, so you're cool that we keep getting water out the descending loop of Henley. It's going to keep coming out and out and out until we reach the base where now we've gotten rid of so much water. Now that water has gone into the interstitial space. Now we're going to pump solutes out. So I'm telling you that our solutes are getting pumped out now. Now here's the cool part. As we pump out our solutes, you're awesome and accept the fact that we keep pumping until we get, like, what, 100, whatever. Here's the amazing thing. Our blood also has an osmolarity. Do you agree with that? It's going to be 300. But look at what happens. Look at who the blood goes by first. The blood is passing by right next to the ascending loop of Henley. So literally, the solutes that come out go into the ascending, the blood supply. And there's a concentration gradient because now all this stuff is coming out and it's going to be picked up by this lower concentration blood that's flowing in. So the concentration of the blood is increasing as it goes down because it's going right next to the ascending loop of Henley and it's picking up all those solutes that are being pumped out. So does that work for you? Can you imagine how that is the case? What happens if the blood picks up the solutes and takes it out of the interstitial fluid? We now don't have that 200 gradient anymore so we just pump more solutes out. So this is really a pretty endless situation where we can continue to pick up solutes until literally we reach 1200. Now this is another incredible thing that happens. As we ascend, now what was coming out of this side? Doggies of a feather, it was water, seriously. So as we ascend in the backward direction and it's a counter-current exchanger, water is going to come out, we're going to keep going up and pick up the water. So as the water gets picked up, our concentration is going to decrease until we get back out of the madness at the concentration that we started. Meanwhile, we picked up solutes. We didn't lose anything. All we did here was grab stuff. We grabbed solutes on this side and we grabbed water on this side.  Holy, does that blow your mind? That is how we ended up filtering out 180 liters of fluid and then reabsorbing all but 1.5 liters of Pp. That's unbelievable. We're going to use our medullary concentration gradient in the next section when we talk about, in the next lecture, when we talk about how hormones help us maintain osmotic equilibrium. But we're not going to deal again with how it's maintained or how it is established. So it would not surprise me in the slightest if you needed to go mess with this again and again. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent messing with this. It's definitely a tricky concept.  Share any resources that you find that are awesome. And kidneys part two, catching kidneys part three, coming up.