Hello and welcome to the NewsClick studios in Delhi again where we're talking Indian football and joining us today are the very handsome and very young Arjun Pandit and he's joined by Nikhil Nas, both experienced sports presenters and fans of Indian sport. We're going to be talking about of course India vs China, the big game, the biggest game that the Indian national team has had in a while and a credible performance from India. We're also joined today by Anand Tyagi who's actually commentating on that game along with former ISL player Ian Hume. So let's go first and find out what Mr Tyagi had to say. Yeah, thanks Siddharth and Arjun for having me. Now what I make of the China game depends on how I look at it. When I was putting my notes together before I went into commentary for China vs India, I was actually quite taken aback by the fact that the Chinese national team hadn't done too well in 2018 under, you know, Marcelo Lippi. He's got a great experience of not just winning the World Cup and the Champions League but also coaching in China with Guangzhou Evergrande. Let's remember he got three Chinese Super League titles back to back, also won the AFC Champions League with them and also got a lot of those players to play for him in this Chinese national team but they weren't doing so well in 2018 and they had only picked up two wins. So if I look at it from the point of view that India went to play a side that was struggling in 2018, I would say, okay, good result for India, not too bad. But if I look at it from the flip side of saying India went to play a FIFA official friendly for the first time on Chinese soil, I'd say it is a fantastic result. It's a phenomenal result because the odds were stacked against us. Nobody expected us to even get a draw. If we'd lost respectively, we would have still taken it on the chin and reasonably well but that wasn't to be. It was a nil nil score and yes, we were lucky. Yes, we were fortuitous but you have to ride your luck in games like these and I genuinely believe that a decade, decade and a half later when you look at inflection points, points which led to transition of a national team, I think this game would hold pretty high, hold itself pretty high on that list because these are the kind of games that give you confidence when you go into a tournament like the AFC Asian Cup. If we could hold China to a nil nil, regardless of their form in 2018, till the 85th minute, hey, we can do this to Bahrain as well, we can do it to Thailand and why not the UAE, the host as well. Talking about those three sides, while India were busy playing China, these sides were also playing pretty stiff opposition. I think UAE played Honduras who were ranked above them and FIFA rankings drew 1-1. You don't talk about Bahrain, I think they lost 1-nil to Syria at the same time and Thailand actually hosted Trinidad and Tobago, which is not a bad side at all and managed to win 1-nil. They also travelled to Hong Kong, did Thailand and won 1-nil over there. So it's good to see that India were playing opposition, there was much superior to it, at least on paper, maybe not on form on that day but you've got to thank Goodpeetsing Sandu for a man mountain of a goalkeeper that he actually managed to keep it to nil nil. Sunday Shingon was very, very good, Pranay Haldi was fabulous, Anirut Thapa was good and a nil nil scoreline on any day, any time of the week or month when you go to China for the very first time, you take it with both hands, won't you? Anirut Thapa is a special talent man. You look at the fact that India were missing somebody like Eugenison Lingdo and they're still trying to fill his boots. Why? Because he can lie deep, he can be a holding midfielder, he can be a creative midfielder, he can be a box-to-box midfielder because of the stamina he has, but nobody's been really able to replace him. Roland Borges came, he's got the legs, he's got the physicality, he's got the stamina but not quite Eugen, right? Pranay Haldi, very, very good player, very effective, puts in a tackle, not shy of putting his body on the line, but not Eugenison Lingdo again with all your respect to their talent and their ability. Anirut Thapa has possibly come the closest because he's a really tenacious player. He can put an tackle, he can intercept, he's a very good thinking player but I remember what Arjun said and we had this discussion as well sometime in studio where we both agreed on the fact that he likes the ball coming to him. He wants the ball at any point of the game, no matter what the game situation is, he wants to receive the ball. We've seen him do that for Chennai and FC towards the latter half of last season of the Hero ISL and we're beginning to see it in an India shirt as well. I think Stephen Constantine, to be fair to him, has spotted it very, very early on in Anirut's career which is why he gave him the captain's arm band in the SAF Cup where he essentially took it under 23 team. Subashish and Anirut Thapa were just two regular captains and getting an opportunity to captain a national team or beat in an under 23 side is a massive confidence boost and it tells you the coach believes in you and then you start translating that into your performances on the pitch. He had a decent game, I'd say Pranay Haldar was probably the better partner in midfield but Anirut Thapa set up Preetham Kotal very early on in the game just with the ability to think one step, one and a half steps ahead. The first time released Preetham Kotal in the 18 yard box, a Preetham shot had not been saved by the goalkeeper, could have been 1-0 India and not just that, the tireless work rate, the ability to go back, defend for long periods of time which takes a total on your body and then to move up with purpose, with Venom and to be able to see Sunil and Udanta on the right hand side it's going to take time for Thapa to really arrive as a midfielder but all the ingredients are right there, the vision, the ability to think a couple of steps ahead and of course wanting the ball, wanting to be a part of the action to dictate the game. That's what you want from your midfielder.  Now has he elapsed his entire ability that has been on display so far? Maybe yes, maybe we've already seen the best of him. Maybe he cannot be the prolific goal scorer who can cut in from that left wing that India need from time to time when JJ and Sunil are not scoring. But then you look at somebody like Udanta on the other wing and he's got the pace to burn of course the fastest in the team without a shadow without. He has also started creating more chances as we saw for Bengaluru FC towards the end of the ISL season. I think he had seven assists by the end of the season. So Udanta came into his own and which is why the question marks over his place went away. Which is why the question marks still hover around Harichur and Naziri's place because he's not creating enough. He's probably not assisting enough and he's certainly not scoring. So that's what creates doubt. What are the answers? Of course Lalanzu and Chanti is the most obvious answer because if you have Udanta's pace on the right and this is pace with the ball which is very different from just being quick. Chanti has that too. Chanti has plenty of pace with the ball and that's something that India could benefit a lot from. Is he as good as Naziri defensively to be able to track back to be able to follow? What Constantine wants the team to do? We don't know because he's not been tested. He got a red card I think in the semi-final of the SAP Cup. So we didn't really see what he could have done in a high pressure situation at the final. But it would have been nice to see Chanti in a big game like the one against China and hopefully we'll see him in the next friendly that happens in November. And if not Chanti then I know that he's already tried Ashik Kuruni and has the coach but I think it's got to be Chanti. It can't be Nikhil Pujari, it can't be Ashik Kuruni because it's just on pure ability. If Feliciano Naziri's place were to be taken by somebody it's got to be Chanti. And if Feliciano Naziri has to maintain his place then he's going to start creating more and certainly he needs to start scoring more. Alright, so that's it from Tiagi. He brought up some good points there I think guys. Arjun Nikhil, you want to take over from what he said about how the team is shaping up and what we can look forward to at the Asian Cup? Yeah, Siddhant, I think the first thing is that before the Asian Cup, January 2019 this is possibly the first time, first 90 minutes where we got to see what India would probably do when they take on the big boys in the Asian Cup in Qatar and what I was looking forward to in fact was the shape and the kind of strategies the team would adopt playing in the Asian Cup, how they would face China and the same things would probably replicate it going forward into the Asian Cup and I was pretty impressed man. You know of course there were a lot of times when the Chinese team breached our defence, there were some lacks how do I say lapses of concentration and defence and midfielder would have to be there. I mean let's not forget the difference, I know we were only Nikhil, what is the ranking? 25? 21 is the difference. Yeah but that doesn't tell you the real story does it because the Chinese team is way more superior than the Indian team in terms of preparation and how they've come into this game and of course what I was really impressed with was the 4-4-2 is what he adopted with the shape maintained for 90 minutes. China got clear cut opportunities but India were in the game, whatever said and done. Yeah I mean I have to be very honest when Stephen Constantine came in 2015 and I remember watching the first few games that game that they played World Cup Qualifier against Iran and it's one thing losing 3-0 but the Indian team looked like not even a semi-professional team because all they were doing was you know kick about and not actually playing a game so one doesn't really look at the score line and do you look you know a professional team that I think I didn't have too many expectations from the Constantine that team but I have to give credit when it's due what 3 years down the line this team looked like a team that can compete it looked like a team of you know 11 professionals playing and as you were saying about the shape it was impressive yes China had the chances but at no point could you say that this was a mismatch I'd say that. Not at all in fact you know when you take cues from the shape you will be putting all men behind the ball when you are kicking vs big boys like China but as soon as you get the ball they are going to break with a serious serious pace but you got Sunil Chhetri who is always running, you got J.J. Lalpak who can hold the ball and you got Udanta saying who is going to break forward now the guy who really binds the three of them together is the guy behind them that is Anurudh Thapa and if you saw in the counterattacks that they were making 1-2 touch Siddhan nothing longer than that because if you keep the ball then you are giving the Chinese opposition chance to get back into their own half take shape and defend against India which is why I feel India's best bet at the Asian Cup is still the time the opposition is still searching for that first goal because that means that they will come in your half in search of that first goal which means that when you do get the ball you have a chance to break forward and of course they will be out of shape and those three can do whatever they can do So okay fine good performance and you guys are giving a pretty positive assessment of how the team is done right Go India So go India is good but one of the things that you are talking about in this transition from largely a defensive shape where we are kind of sitting back and absorbing the pressure that the other team is throwing at us right but when you are making that transition you are doing it with these 1-2-3-4 slick ground passes right there is not a philosophy of going direct and hitting the ball into space for Udanta to get on to right so what's happening on the break or at least what I noticed on a couple of occasions was that when this break happens because Udanta has a pace to take on whoever right the ball has to either be played of a certain quality and a certain weight where he gets to it and it's still in play or their passing is good enough that they can make those little triangles and create more In fact their first real chance in the game that game courtesy of good slick 1-2 touch passing I just feel that long ball root that you are saying that can't be for Udanta because Udanta doesn't have the experience or the physicality to hold on to that long ball when he's got a physically able defender marking him I feel that long ball which has come from Gulpreet someone like Sunil Chhetri and then Udanta makes the run of them and then of course you will see what you can do also the other move I think Farooq that he missed I think that was a good pass at the end of the game so they did stitch together those three passes or create those triangles I mean it's a welcome change from what the Indian team used they knew what they were doing there was a plan and they were executing it all right so positive performers top three players for you from the Indian side I think for me would read definitely though I must add a rider to it I know Gulpreet is an outstanding game but usually that tends to happen with teams that are defending a lot I say that about Dheeraj as well nothing to take away from that young lad in the under 17 world cup but he was also made to look good because the Indian team in general had to always be soaking up that pressure that you were getting and I can similar with regards to Gulpreet because he had so many more opportunities to save it tends to make the goalkeeper look good but that our side I think those two which hit the post other than that everything else he managed to keep so I think Gulpreet brought Gulpreet to his home he will take him with him so Gulpreet for me Thapa had put as number two as you know as he was saying he was just right behind the strikers and giving them those feeds whatever little chances that he had and I'd probably go with Sunil as well as my third player he still remains the number one player and you know I'd love to be a fly on the wall of the Indian dressing room because I clearly remember when again I go back to the coach when he took over in 2015 the first training session and I went to the Ambedkar Stadium the impression I got he was three right then that is three years ago and he thought he'd create a new team three years down the line he still remains the best player that India has so and with news coming in of you know not everything well between the coaches I think he reports and to be honest I feel Constantine as a guy who likes rotating his captains and he saw that this is a good atmosphere and a good opportunity to give someone new the captaincy possibly to do him good in the long run maybe this is but there's no smoke without fire no but to say that I will stick by this that he wasn't too keen to continue with strategy at that time for very long he thought that he was down so on that at the time that he came in I think neither of the two were very keen on each other I think I'm pretty sure Sunil didn't want him to come in as the new coach and and similarly I mean the loudest most powerful voice in the dressing room I guess the one to present the most conflicting ideas to what the coach might suggest especially if I like I personally also feel that the coach himself doesn't bring any more experience at the international level to the table than a guy like Sunil does to begin with I mean if you had a coach who had played you know even at like taken three four teams to the Asian Cup or played against some of these big teams in Asia he's only played as India manager against these guys so I mean from where from Cyprus he brought that experience I don't know how much that sort of translates to the players imbibing something new or something more I in fact feel like the coaches that are coming into the clubs at the ISL stage are giving these guys a lot more confidence and technical technical sort of workouts to make sure that they can do that kind of like one touch one touch play where they are thinking of where the next man is in the larger picture and playing the ball to him and hoping that then things work out Siddhant and Nikhil I vehemently disagree I know you do but the writing is on the wall if your team qualified for the Asian Cup but the run that they've had and then to give the performance that they've done versus China you can't say the coach has had no impact on that we know what kind of game football is coach makes or breaks a team the kind of strategies you have the kind of strategies you use on the field the kind of players you want to use on the field it's all on the coach so we have to give full credit to Stephen Constantine for bringing the Indian team to where they are China the 90 minutes if I get to see the Indian team playing like that in the Asian Cup mind you irrespective of whether we lose all three games I'll be a very happy man I think the point that he was trying to make is a point taken I think he has improved I decided myself at the start from where the team was in 20 the team when he took them over to what the team is looking now the one that played in 2011 I don't want to use that word Australia Bahrain it was pretty much 5-2 I remember that game so in that sense this is a far better team but what I think the point that he is trying to make is that how do you take this so he took a very pragmatic approach against a team like China he knew at best what to do concentrate on a defense that's what we have to do correct but I am saying can he take the team forward as he mentioned there are slightly better coaches in the ISM who may have improved some of these players but the national coach is enjoying the benefit of those my point is I am not thinking ahead of the Asian Cup see I am saying whatever you want to think of the future is steep and constant think about it after their performance at the Asian Cup then you can think really take us further from here from what we have done at the Asian Cup but the point being till the Asian Cup given what he has done with the Indian team to get us to the Asian Cup and of course the way the team is playing the 2011 Asian Cup team as opposed to the team that will play in 2019 Asian Cup I know they haven't played but I feel this team is better prepared to play at the big stage I had no disagreement there my only point of view on this is that I think that that preparation comes from a more sort of professional more robust club structure in some shape and form being in place in India but a lot of it has to do with the coach 2011 when we played the Asian Cup these boys had to the national team had to spend the whole year travelling around the world playing against whoever would give them a game because they didn't have any level of competition going on I mean this time it just shows how much we have sort of moved forward that for what it's worth the establishment the authorities believe that the match practice that the boys are getting through playing in the Indian Super League because none of our players are playing abroad so they believe that that is good enough preparation or the best possible preparation that they can have to go into this tournament which in itself indicates what they think the development is do I think that it's good enough that's a separate story and we can get into it separately if we want to but I genuinely believe the national team coach has had very little to do with the way the national team is playing the good thing that he has done since you guys want to give credit where it's due is bring in a lot of new players get a much younger, fitter squad going from that point of view where his experienced guys are there Sunil is there and Sunil is the fittest guy in the team so it helps a lot or a couple of guys at the back but the players you bring on at the 70th, 75th, 80th minute are guys who will come on and have that physicality that pace to actually inject some life into the game where India usually was lacking that would be the point at which opponents would chado on us it would be interesting to actually listen to the players I mean you need to ask a Jhingan who has made him the player that he has what does he say himself he may just say it's time spent with Kerala Blaster you need to ask a Preetam Kotal who made him the player as a player, if you're talking specifically of Sandesh Jhingan when Nikhil was saying the three players that have stood out I agree with him, Thapa, Goodpreet and Sunil but Jhingan as well Jhingan was all over the place in the first 15 minutes all over the place in the first 15 minutes he was a winner for India but first 15 minutes, any common ball if he was playing long, his strikers were taking that ball easily and then the midfield from behind was getting on those runs but post the first 20 minutes then Jhingan really came into his own all the long balls that were coming in there was Jhingan who was taking on the Chinese he was not a small guy he was a pretty big tall guy and that's the kind of heart you need from him so much so that Jhingan's heart had then transferred on to Subashish as well who is not really a stalker but Subashish was also coming in for those really solid one on one tackles so that was really good to see for me and if you ask Jhingan who made him the player he will say it's a mix of ISL no one is going to disregard what the ISL has done to them because they are using modern training techniques preparing themselves as better players for the course of 6 to 7 months in a year but you cannot disregard what Stephen Constantine has done you cannot say that this man has not taken us forward see at the end of the day when you call a coach and you say what he has brought look where he has brought the team he has chosen an approach which not too many other teams have done in the past under Bob Houghton yes we were trying that long ball that didn't work for us I can guarantee you for sure going forward the long ball route will not be the only route you got my point the counter route will be the route where you play it on the ground because you understand that the boys can play it on the ground we don't have a long ball game we have 5 feet, 6 feet, 5 feet, 7 feet so where will we play? we can discuss this the whole day you are speaking about 24 hours football channel yeah Sky Sports News you are talking about football but anyway your 3 players Nikhil said same as Nikhil, I am just adding Sandesh I think he was the tower of a player because only he grew into the game and then once he grew into it he didn't leave it and that's beautiful to see so a quick question on the subject of goalkeepers one what did you guys make of Gurpeet's decision making in terms of coming out and grabbing balls 6 foot 5 there are some of those balls up played into the box that maybe he should you know be more in control of come out, come off his line a little bit faster and just grab it in this match actually this I think was a criticism that came Gurpeet's way before this match and I would agree with you I thought I saw an improvement in this particular match he did those I think it's more about confidence whether you really want to go for the ball I thought that he was a little more confident this time going forward and he did go in for those you know balls which could have been like 50-50 situation he did go for them I saw an improvement in him in this match compared to how Gurpeet's been in previous matches he is a tower of a goalkeeper man 6 feet 5 and of course no player is the perfect player you are right man in the past also we have seen Gurpeet not coming out and catching those balls instead he is going for the punch but there is nothing wrong with it man talking on the goalkeepers is one more topic on the team where if in the 11th that we saw playing right now because Subashish has come in for Anas I think Anas will come in for Subashish in the playing 11 if there is one spot in the playing 11 that is still up for grabs that I feel is Holly Charan Naziri on the left wing optimal feet so one player who I feel can come in there because we still have about 6 months for the Asian Cup less than that no we have 2 months man summer is over now for Delhi Dynamos the reason I think the coach is going with Naziri because of his work rate Naziri will go up and Naziri will go back so the shape will be maintained he is a little scared with Chante because the international football at the senior level has not played but the beauty of Chante is going to compliment you going forward in those small passes he is not afraid of taking on players what do you make of JJ you thought he was a bit off the ball JJ is a bit off the ball but the thing is JJ is doing what only JJ can do and no other player in the team can do that is hold the ball with his back to the ball no one else can do it there is no other striker I mean people talk about Balwant Singh but I still feel JJ is way ahead and if you see in this game also he holds the ball for 2 seconds those 2 seconds the value in the football like we saw in the china game that those outlet passes and the chance on goal might well come from an overlapping wing back whether it is Pritam on this side or Narayan on the other side or whoever manages to get into that position but the way space will open up it is that player likely to have that across goal kind of opportunity what did you make of do you think that these boys are capable our fullbacks are capable of sort of tackling that attacking responsibility yeah I mean I think to play that sort of football it takes years I would imagine I don't think they have the pace also to do that that may not be the best way for India to go forward I mean just looking at how a football has been there over the years the best way for you to play was maybe the long ball that you were saying maybe some triangles up in the front but I do not see your left or your right back overlapping Danny always will take a long time for India to develop no having said that but the first real chance for India in that game came from Pritam Kotala Odantai had come inside Pritam came in and the goalkeeper made a good save having said that you won't see that too often in a game no no but often often means more than 2 or 3 shots we are not going to get in the whole game what you are talking about overlap often nothing is going to happen that will not happen on the counter that will happen when you keep the ball in possession and then of course that boy from the wing comes inside and the fullback comes outside and you take your players with you and I think Constantine understands that and that is the beauty of the approach that you understand your limitations and you play according to that next time we do this you have to get permission from your employers for us to bring in some of the footage so that we can do little bit of analysis and actually talk on that basis but... no bro I was saying thousands of crores so let's make a diagram type we will handle it we will understand it anyway I think we will be talking quite frequently about how the team gets on between now and the Asian Cup Nikhil I don't know how much time you will have to join us so in case we don't chat again do you want to give us a prediction or how you see the team doing at the Asian Cup and will you be there will you be in the crowd sort of cheering boys on he is planning to go definitely planning to go but I think India will make the cut you think they will make the cut make the cut means go through to the next round I tell you why ranking is not the best you are a unique host now so that's what I am saying so they will go through Thailand is the fastest improving team in Asia I mean the best way to look at it India ranked higher than Thailand at the moment India is also ranked higher than Bahrain at the moment you never know I mean I am going to Bahrain in 2011 but then from Parts 2 it was fun it was fun in the stadium it was fun I am not looking at the Indian team qualified I don't care looking at how they perform over the course of these three games whether you lose when doesn't make a difference for me because we are not at that level we are going to a tournament and we are thinking we will qualify you need to play these tournaments on a regular basis once you start playing them on a regular basis can you say ok now we will qualify now we will play the quarter finals once we reach the blue moon you can't expect the blue moon but you have now qualified second time in 3 editions 2nd time in 3 editions we will expand when India doesn't fit we will make a little more it will be 34 to 32 then it will be 48 we will come from somewhere we will have 48 teams 7 and a half teams qualified from Asia but you know what not just the senior team somewhere or the other I think we sort of understood a blueprint of how to prepare for a big tournament whether it be the under 16 boys whether it be the under 17 boys or the senior team somewhere or the other we are not shooting in the dark now we have reached there play a long game and you will see a little blueprint has come and the ISL of course has played a big part in that the players are interacting with big players big managers and slowly slowly coming so we are into 4 years or 5th year of the ISL we are into the year 5 of ISL year 10 of the ISL then you see where the national team is for all the criticism that ISL gets I would have to say that it has really helped me football you can clearly see it that exposure just one thing I wanted to say I thought because we were discussing I just said this morning we were discussing India and China I don't know if any of you read that the CCC TV that commentators quote and he said after the match that he saw India versus China and he said that I can't believe that you know almost how many is that how many billion is that he said with 3 billion we can produce these 30 players it's just like such a travesty to see these 30 players play for a total of 3 billion people so that is just putting into perspective where what are we talking about actually he is right he is not a very positive person which is why I invited him on the chat today I think I began positively the CCC TV yeah there is no point comparing to the best in the world yeah and with that with those two perspectives one is where we actually are and the other that we it will take 10-15-20 years for us to become a team that is exciting to talk about and fun to watch and follow until then it will be a lot of hard hard miles for the fans on the road to cover but it will be fun and we will keep these chats going thanks guys for joining us thank you just send us a payment yeah in kind when we will meet next time so we will keep this football conversation going guys thanks for joining us today and talk to you soon


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Today we're going to look at higher time frame charts there have been some interesting developments in the markets obviously we have that CPI print come in yesterday softer than expected, which led to a major rally in terms of risk assets. So we're going to look at the next key inflection points where I see the next decent trading opportunities coming off these higher time frame charts so starting with the S&P 500. I'm using the E-mini futures contract. And what I'm tracking now is a five wave sequence that I believe is developing. The close at or just above that 4210 level yesterday was pivotal to suggest that we are in an impulsive move to the outside for now. What I'm looking for now is as we hold 4190 to 4180 as support, I'm looking for price to extend up to test 4270. There I'm watching for bearish momentum divergence and you can track that on intraday time frames but for the purposes of today's presentation I'm showing it on the higher time frame but what I'm looking for is 4270 to act as resistance. I will be looking to fade this current leg to the upside in and around those levels and I'll be looking for a three wave corrected move to ultimately pull back to give us a pullback similar in scope and scales that way to corrective moves so that would take us back into test the 4040 level on the downside from there I'll be looking to reengage on the long side looking for a minimum five equals one extension to the upside. Obviously want to pay close attention to how we trade at the trend line 42 comes in there about 4295 but if we get through there I'll be looking for a move up to 4330s. And then from there again I'll be watching for momentum divergence to develop as we complete this sequence and then obviously looking for a minimum three wave corrected move. And certainly we'll be thinking about move back down to test that potential way for low 4040 4050. NASDAQ similar idea developing here we are looking we've actually taken out the trend line resistance here on the NASDAQ so shown some relative strength. What I'll be looking for now is a test of the trend line resistance coming in at 13,670 but weekly projected range resistance 13,710 again from there watching for bearish reversal patterns, and I'll be looking for a three wave corrected move similar in scope and scale to this wave to correction so I'll put us back down into 12,760 area weekly projected range support from there to engage on the long side again looking for a fifth wave extension. I'm targeting a five equals 13,900, we also got this high volume there just about 14,116 so that's going to be my target zone for the wave five extension, and then we'll be looking for another corrected move to the downside in terms of the NASDAQ Dow Jones. So what I'm looking for here is a move up now to ideally test this trend line resistance and played here so 33,850 to 33,900 is the target zone. There again, want to see some momentum divergence in play, you can look on the four hour or the hourly timeframe to get confirmation of that but what I'm ultimately looking for then is a way for pullback which should see us test into the 32,400 area and then from there we're looking for a five equals one when I refer to five equals one what I'm talking about is a minimum upside objective of equal to that and scope and scale of the wave one move. So that would give us this type of pattern here. So like I say 32,140 area, and then we're looking for a minimum fifth wave extension, 34,224 and similar to the NASDAQ we do have that high volume know that often acts as a magnet above at 34,650 and then from there I'll be looking for a deeper move to develop. Russell has actually been the relative strength leader out of all the US equity indexes, the Russell tracking the small caps there. So what I'm looking for here is a test of the high volume mode and I'm looking for price to fail or fade into this 2000 or 2010 level, what's the various reversal patterns. I'm looking for that wave to corrective move to be replicated. Oftentimes you'll get where we have a wave to that is is more of a consolidation move took a bit of time to develop. You might see the way for move happen much faster it could be more of a spike in the move so it might be that we pull back into this 1890 and then we don't get the consolidation here we just shoot up into our way five objective five equals one. And then from there, we'll be watching for bearish reversal patterns again to play for a deeper corrective move and certainly I'll be thinking about a retest of this pitchfork support into those 1870s got high volume mode there 1880 DAX. So looking for the DAX here to extend into its trend line resistance weekly projected range resistance 13,978 then we also have this high volume note for just about 14,000. So again, we watch for this momentum divergence to be maintained here so we look for price to make a new eye. We don't want to see a new high in terms of the psych indicator here. And then we look for that three way corrective move equal in scope and scale to that way to low, and then we'll be looking for a fifth wave extension before once again, looking again on the short side. So the Nikkei looking now for a test of trend channel resistance 28,560 just take out the stops here above the range resistance will be an ideal move, and then as long as we remain tame, negative momentum divergence, we look for bearish reversal patterns to engage on the short side and I'm looking for a move back into test the pivot here and the ascending trend line support 27,240s before looking for the next leg to the upside. We're talking 29,370, which is the weekly equality objective versus the current swing structure. To improve the FX based dollar index dollar. After the CPI obviously yesterday and the markets sensing that we might have a peak inflation in play now. I'm looking for the dollar index to test one or two sixties, which is the equality objective versus this swing structure. So I've been watching for bullish reversal patterns to engage on the long side and certainly thinking about retest of the high volume area here 106 30s, and then we may do a broader double correction. But for now, any move back into test the underside of this channel, and that high volume node 106 30s, that's going to be an opportunity to engage on the short side, and we're looking for a 10260 test. So again, potential here for a double corrective move. I'm anticipating that when we get up and test this equality objective 104 10 to 104 20. I know I see us pulling back there from that area, as long as we maintain momentum divergence here, look for a pullback to a minimum of the pivot back down to the 100 and 90, which is our B wave low at this stage. So if we take that out and we get a close through there, then I'm looking for retest of cycle lows, and ultimately I want to see a test of the years three 97 sixties. But what I would say is that by the if this trade sets up and plays out certainly by the time we get back into that pivot area you want either to be risk free or take half your position off etc. So I do see the potential for a double correction to test the high volume nodes here 105 30s as a potential scenario so again if you think about what I was just talking about with the dollar index bit more of a complex corrective pattern developing. That's likely to play out in a similar fashion in the euro obviously the inverse euro being the highest percentage contributor to the dollar index so it could get a little bit more complicated in terms of trade scenario. So as we head into the back end of August here with respect to some of these effects major sterling. I look for any break now in sterling through the 123 area, I would be engaged on the long side and I've got a target now and a quality objective 125 50s. At this stage, we need to see a loss of the pivot here at 120 to start to think about shorts again, but ultimately I am still looking for that 115 tests. In terms of sterling on the downside. So these are just I'm just identifying where the corrective moves are likely to play out now in terms of these effects majors. Sorry, dollar yen talked about this last week fading the 135 50s. We've got that rejection yesterday so I've been looking now break through the prior loads 130 30s, and we've got an equality objective now down to 126 80s, which becomes our down side target in terms of dollar yen euro yen. I'm looking in terms of the euro yen any test into 136 sorry 139 sixties, I want to look for opportunities to short the euro yen, and I'm looking for a test down into monthly projected rain sport 131 30s as downside objective at this stage, really we would need to see a close through 142 30s to suggest the downside is done that this correction sufficient and we're heading to to make new highs in terms of the euro yen. Stirling and I am looking the idea for a test of the trend channel support monthly projected rain sport 157 80s. That will be an area of paying close attention to as, as we set up then the potential next leg to the upside in terms of sterling yen, and what I've been looking for there. If we're again using that minimum five equals one objective, we go back down here and we use this as our wave one move. And we overlay here. So we're looking for a 170 test there in terms of. In terms of sterling yen. With me guys just just a position on the minute. Sorry about that. Let's take a look at the Ozzie and Ozzie and it's got an interesting pattern here developing we have got a potential triangle so there are a couple of areas and paying close attention to in terms of the Ozzie and any testing to the trend line resistance here if we get a bearish reversal pattern. I've been looking to engage on the short side. So we do have that test of trial will support 1941 forties, but we do have an equality objective unchecked here at the 1930 area at this stage. Only a close back through the potential be wave high or the X wave of W wave here. And I'm looking for a move up into 103 90s is the target I have here and that's an equality objective versus this weekly swing structure in terms of the Ozzie and the ideal scenario for me would be a move down into test the weekly trend months for 87 70s. And again watching the bullish reversal patterns there to engage on the long side. Similar type of well slightly different here we've got the potential for an ending diagonal pattern here. So when you move into the trend line support. If we get bullish reversal patterns there I've been looking to engage on the long side, looking for a test then and a failure at 108 20s. And also is the yearly are three, the ideal scenario would be a break through the trend line support here and a test of 99, which is the equality objective versus the current swing structure. And once again I've been looking for bullish reversal patterns then to engage on the long side, and we would be looking for that test of the yearly are three as our upside objective. Ozzie. As I said, developing here in the Ozzie, I am looking for a move now into the high volume modes 71 80s to 72 20s. I watch for bearish reversal patterns there to engage on the short side, looking for a move back down we've got a potential for developing here back down into this 68 60s from there and look for bullish reversal patterns, and I'm targeting a test of the weekly trend line resistance 74 50s as the upside objective for that move so some decent two way trading opportunities developing in these commodity effects we've also got similar scenario in the key we're here, looking for us now to test 65 the 65 level watch for price to fail there back into the high volume mode, and again looking for this double corrective move to potentially play out and takes up into the 66 70s. We also have let's bring in this weekly trend line resistance 67 50s, and that's that high volume mode there so some decent upside targets to play for their gold still holding long gold positions. And this trade is starting to develop quite nicely now so what I'm looking for now in gold is. You could make another new high here into the high volume modes 1830s and then I'm looking for a three wave corrective move to engage again on the long side we've got a gap here 1750s would be a nice nice target so and then I'm looking for another leg of upside, at least maybe see moved into that 1900 level. So again, I'm always thinking in terms of equality and symmetry market so that you can see that we that would be equal in scope and scale to that first leg that would complete potentially an ABC, but as we know, every impulse move in the markets have a new trend starts potentially as a correction and ABC moves so once we get here, if the pullbacks remain supported, it could be that we are going to to retest highs in terms of gold became just shy of the quality objective back $10, but the response we're seeing so far is certainly impulsive. And so I'm looking to add to the positions in gold, similar scenario in silver, not quite as impulsive as gold but we did actually see 1440 a quality objective. And so I'm looking now, let me draw this in you can, so I can see clearly on the daily timeframe, a 12345 select suggests that the next move will be corrective, and we will be looking to, I haven't got these positions on at the moment but I'm going to be looking to get something going here so ideally we test up into weekly projected range resistance here 21 20s, and then I'm looking for any move back into this way for low here 1940 to engage on the long side and certainly looking at this high volume loads up to the 2310 area as my targets next upside objective crude oil came just shy. Well, I mean, I say just like 86 30s we were looking for the test, 87 low. So far, and this doesn't look as impulsive as the moves we're seeing in the metals. But what I'll be watching for is the first rotation lower on the four hour timeframe should find support in around the 90 handles. So this is an opportunity to engage on the long side target initially is going to be a move up to the high volume mode one or two, in terms of crude oil, or if we get rejected here from the other side of this prior bear flag scenario. Let's just remove this and I'll show you I'm thinking. If this is correct is let's say this is a three wave move that terminates into the 9380 and then get a last push into our target so and then again I'll be looking on the long side, and we look for a one or two test in terms of crude oil. Let's round them out here with the cryptos Bitcoin. I'm looking for a test of the trend channel resistance 27,300 30s from there and watching the bearish reversal patterns. And as those of you who are here on a weekly basis now I'm looking for a 12,000 tests in terms of Bitcoin and then from there I could get meaningfully interested in the cryptos, or alternatively, if we can get a break off the down trend channel, then that would suggest that we've got an impossible developing will be looking to play pullbacks but for now I'm watching very clear, definitely how we trade into this trend channel resistance. In a similar scenario with either I'm looking for a test of 2220 from their watch for bearish reversal patterns to engage on the short side, and we have an 851 equality objective in terms of ether, and I'm going to round things out this week looking at Apple, because we are getting to a pretty interesting point here in terms of Apple, Apple today became the biggest company to have the largest percentage contribution to the S&P 500 so if the current action we're seeing in these markets is potentially a bear market rally, then we'll be looking for Apple to fade into 174 and we'll be playing for a minimum three-way corrective move back down to midpoint of the channel at 150. So those are the charts that I'm watching, the areas of interest, for me at the moment the move we're seeing in risk sentiment remains a potential bear market rally but we are going to be testing some pretty interesting areas in the coming weeks and we'll see how the markets respond. What I'm going to do now is open up for any questions. If you've got a question or you've got a pair you'd like me to take a look at or an instrument you want to take a look at that I haven't covered in my presentation, you can type that into the chat box. I'm going to post the link for the Facebook group you just request access to get my daily trade plan. From there I will also post for you the sick mill trading view account where you can track my trade ideas and trading opportunities on a daily basis through the videos that I post there. That's in there as well. Questions so does anyone have a question Roy I can see you've raised your hand but I can't see a question. You want to type into the chat box if so now's the time to do it. Okay, can't see any questions coming through at this point so I'm going to presume I've done a reasonable job of explaining what it is. I'm looking at where I see the opportunities developing in coming sessions. As always traders plan the trade trade the plan the most importantly manage all this until next week. Thanks very much. Apologies that won't actually be a live session next week. I'm on vacation next week, so it'll be in two weeks time. Thanks very much everyone and I hope this helps.


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Okay. Let me get everything set up. I'm so sorry, you guys. Well, wait a minute for everybody who wanted to come back in, to go back in. Wait a minute for everybody who wanted to come back in, to go back in. I don't even know what he's doing. What? There's almost no relaying that one. I know. Dang it. I tried to be fancy with that whole streaming program, but it didn't work out. Or just go. We're going to stick to the basics for the rest of today. Thank you guys for coming in for those of you who are back. I'll just finish the rest of my makeup to save some time while people are coming back in. This way is not lagging either, so I'm getting the comments on time too, which is I was talking to myself before you guys because nobody was responding because it was literally a minute away. So we're on time. Hello, Roxy, Amanda, Alexandra, Amanda, Kayla, Sandra, Marissa. Thank you guys for coming back. Yeah, this seems to be a lot better. Yeah, I didn't really tell how laggy it was until you started commenting in the chat. Okay, this should be better. Thank you so much for donating. Crystal, I'm going to think your name is Crystal. Okay, much better. We lost some people and it sucks for the people watching back. I lost my cute background or my cute thumbnail, but this is better. So what I'm quickly going to do, I'm going to put my PayPal and my Venmo name in the description box really quickly because we lost it. Okay. So like I said, YouTube takes, I believe, 30% of SuperChast, which is fine, but if it's easier for you, you can send a donation to my PayPal if you would like or my Venmo. We're going to turn to me at gmail.com. And then also that's easier for people who are just not watching this live. We're going to put in the comments, my PayPal, et cetera. And then we'll get this going. Thank you guys for coming back. I lost a lot of you, unfortunately, but that's okay. So PayPal is mturnermakeupatgmail.com. Then Venmo is Morgan, turn to make up same name as my Instagram. Let's get back to business. So sorry for that. Let me get my primer on. I'm just using Mac painterly paint pot, putting that everywhere. I'm going to do two different looks on it, two different eyeballs. Hi guys, thank you for coming back. So sorry for the technical issues. I'm so bad at technology. You guys have no idea. All right. So let's dig in. I know for one look, I want to use extravaganza because it is the most buttery, smooth look. So we're going to do that first. Let me get the names of the shades out. And if you have any questions, ask them. If I don't answer, keep retyping them because I might have missed them. Yeah, I'm worried about the limited edition packaging. I'm not sure if it's going to come back, but you can purchase a palette right now on Sephora, I believe, but it's just the regular black packaging. Thank you so much, Roxanne. I just got your Venmo. It is much appreciated. Okay. So one of my favorite colors in this palette is Naked Blush. You're going to use it just about every single time you use this palette. It is the perfect color. I'm using a Kaleidos S1 brush and we're going to blend her in the crease everywhere. I also am going to use it as a blush on this cheek too. And it is really pigmented. You need to use a light hand, but it's so pretty and it's so monochromatic. You guys look at this. Yes, it needs to be a blush. I do think the formulation needs to be changed a little bit though, because it's an eyeshadow and I think it needs to be a little bit less pigmented, a little bit more blendable. But do you see how beautiful that is as a blush? You guys, Marissa, I'm using the new Divine Rose 2 palette from Black McGrath. Yeah, the pink packaging even just in the regular Divine Rose is gorgeous, but this is such a pretty blush. And then I did this in my tutorial or my video, my review. I use Skin Show Rose Opal as a highlight and you guys, this is a gorgeous highlight and it doesn't even look like it would be an eyeshadow, you know? It just looks beautiful as a highlighter. How pretty is that? Yeah, you're right. Poppin' beautiful. Okay, so, and then we have, let's see, we're going to put just a touch of Extreme Burgundy.  So I'm going to use this on the inner and outer corner. What is, Allison, when you're asking about DR, do you just mean the original Divine Rose palette? Can you use that on the face? I want to make sure I answer your question correctly. You guys see that blended beautifully. Yes, there are a couple shades that you can use in Divine Rose. Personally, I prefer the shade shades in the Divine Rose 2 because that blush is gorgeous that I put on, but you can, this is a beautiful burgundy blush and it gets a little bit of shine, but I do think the colors in the Divine Rose 2 are a little bit easier to work for the face. Yes, the gold color right here is from one of her kits from a long time ago. She used to do these kits. She doesn't really do them anymore. So most people don't have it, but you might. And now we're going to take, guys, this color, extra eleganza, sorry. It's one of my favorites in this palette because it's so buttery, smooth. So I'm just going to pop this in the middle of my lid. Now just use a soft color. My nails are starting to look icky, you guys. Do you see how pretty that is?  It really is. And then I'm going to take a little bit of astral pink moon. Oh, I didn't know Divine Rose 2 was sold out at Sephora already. And then this color is going to be that glitter topper to add the extra dimension. Do you guys see that? Clods. Yes, I'm you. I use color street. Also also has a really good brand as well. It's like called in Coco. I love them. Nail polishes don't last long on me on me at all. So this lash, they're the nail stickers. I can't speak today. The nail stickers last a really long time. This has been over a week and normally my nails don't last like that. But I love the stick on nails. They're the best and I hate painting my nails anyways. I'll do a section of comparisons when I'm done doing the looks so that way I can mail through my palettes. Let me finish this look. We're almost done. This look is really simple. Should I go bright on my lower lash line? I want to do a gold look next like a gold bronzy look next. So now we're going to keep it neutral. I'm just going to mix these two colors and keep it boring. One of you guys commented on my video that you would love to see Pat do like a green cool tone kind of look or palette. How incredible would that be? Just purely green and blues. I would die. Okay. So this is like a really pretty simple kind of look and I'm going to put a little bit more of astral moot. No, just kidding. We're going to put skin show rose opal on my inner corner. Just like a really subtle pinky kind of highlight. Do you guys see how pretty that is? I love it. Okay. So this is like a simple more wearable look, but I do want to play with like the yellows and bronzy type of colors as well. Yeah, there's been so many positive reviews of this because it's that good. This is one of my favorites quality wise. She knocked it out of the park. I lost my base. So I guess we'll just go with what I put on an hour ago. Okay. For the gold. How do I want to do this? Because there are only two matte shades in this palette. The rest are shimmery. We'll do a hot pink and gold. So I'm going to start off with rose seduction. Why am I forgetting the name of this these and I'm using my Kaleidos S1 brush again and we're going to blend this in the outer corner or outer half. And this shade is a shimmer, but you can blend it out like a matte. You guys see that? So even though it is shimmery, you can't even tell. Yes, I would love to see Pat come out with more multi-chrome shades as well. She did a good job on the formula and it brings that type of formula to the mainstream market. Oh, this is fun. I like this. I like where this is going and then we're going to take some of bronze rose right here. I haven't used this one yet. I haven't used this since my tutorial. Look how pretty that is. That's going in the center of the lid. Oh, this really has a strong rose undertone to it. Really pretty. The trick to applying shadow on hooded lids. Mine are slightly hooded. They're not as hooded as they could be though. But the trick for hooded lids is simplicity is best.  Yeah, rose, bronze and the way that it blends into. This is just a video of me loving on this palette. Truly. Okay, and then we're going to go in with gold lust. This is the shade that is in her kits, but you can't even buy the kits anymore. Anyways, but you might have it if you've been a long time pat collector. Oh, you guys wait. Can we talk about how obsessed I am with this look? And look how different these two looks are. Yeah, you guys, if you haven't seen, you can use your Sephora points to donate. So that's also another great way and then that way you're not really spending any money if you don't have it because still times are tough financially. Okay, we're going to take some more of the hot pink color and this shade I did not expect to love as much as I do. Just because you can do so many things with it. It's really versatile. The finish is shimmery, but you can't really tell and I'll use it as a blush on this cheek. Yeah, I'll do swatches and swatch comparisons when I'm done with the look, you guys. I just want to have something on my face. Oh, I hope it comes to Brazil because you need it. It's worth it. Hello, Lorna. Thank you for joining guys. How stunning is this look? I'm going to put a little bit more of the rose bronze. This rose bronze shade is my new fave. I mean, I have many faves in this palette, but dang, she pretty. I'm happy you guys are getting your palettes. Just pull them out and play with them right now. All right, and I'm going to take some of astral pink moon and I'm going to put this on my inner corner for a little bit of glitters. Which one is your favorite? Like this one's a little bit more wearable. I think I like this one. I can't help it. It's too gorgeous. Okay, and then we're going to put a little bit of this on the cheek. And I need to give you some tips for that. So just take like a couple taps.  So I'm going to just tap all of the excess away, abuse my hand just to do this. If you have a deeper complexion, maybe you don't need to be so aggressive with yourself, but you want just the tiniest bit if you're more fair. And it does add a pink kind of editorial look with just a tiny bit of sheen. I'm actually going to go in with a little bit more, but this is clearly not a blush you guys, but you can make it work for sure. And plus it makes everything much more cohesive. My Venmo is Morgan Turner makeup just like my Instagram. And what's my photo? I can't, I don't, I'm using my phone to film so I can't pull it up. Yes, I am a PE teacher and we are finishing up our last couple of weeks. Yeah, this is much brighter. You're right. I kind of like this as a blush a lot. Ooh, okay. And I'm going to do the same thing for the highlight because this pink or this rose opal, she's so good you guys for a highlight. I prefer this look, but this look is like kind of more every day. All right. So here are the looks. I'm going to put on some lashes so that we can look a little bit more complete. Yeah. So my folks who are joining in or weren't here in the beginning, if you didn't know, I am donating all of either super chats, Venmo's or PayPal's. They, I'm making a big donation to the NAACP. So don't feel obligated to do it. And I know that a lot of you have already done your part, have already donated and that is fine. Just you being here is also helping the donation to become bigger as well. But if you would like to, you can send a super chat or if you would like me to get the money instantly and have the full amount, you can PayPal me at mturnermakeupatgmail.com or you can Venmo me at Morian Turner makeup as well. So there are a few other options. If you would like to donate in a way that won't cost you anything after this live is over, I'm going to add ads and just feel free to go back and re-walk. But I appreciate all of you that have donated. Thank you so much. Yeah, and you don't have to donate to me. Take your money and donate it, do some research and donate it to where you want to donate. I just chose the NAACP because I think it's a really big cause for the future. I think it's important to donate to, you know, like the George Floyd fund right now and all of that stuff. But I think for me, the reason I chose the NAACP is because they're going to be around forever dealing with all of these social injustices and all of the inequality forever. Hi, Tara. Thank you for coming on in. Guys, if you aren't subscribed to Tara, go do it right now. Yes, I'm threatening you. Do it now. Technical difficulties. Okay. So in case you didn't hear me, I am donating to the NAACP. So that stands for the National Association of the Advancement for Colored People. And that's who I will be donating to. But of course, if I'm more willing to look into other charities as well for the future, I will be uploading a black ally or a black owned makeup face brand. I will be doing that later this week. Thank you so much, Claudia. I will be doing that later this week and all of that since we'll also go in and be tacked on to the money earned from this as well. So I see you guys sending in. I'm getting my phone notifications for Venmo and PayPal. Very much appreciated. Yes, Tara is one of my favorites too. Okay, let me put on a lip. Let me grab a lip. So I'm going to do Omi, which if you guys didn't know this is based off of Naomi Campbell. This is her color and I always get corrected because I call this color OMI, but it's actually pronounced Omi and it's such a pretty wearable color. It's one of her mattes. If you miss the looks, this will be up on my channel. Once it's over and you can go back and rewatch, but Omi is a bomb color. So I decided not to do lip liner because I'm feeling lazy and that was a mistake, but she does have I believe she has two lipsticks from this collection. Soft core is really good. And then the other one I used in my tutorial. They're very pretty colors. Yeah, you guys see how pretty Omi is? Don't sleep on it. It's one of her. I know you can get overwhelmed because she has so many colors, but it's so good you guys. So the looks are done. Obviously if I was not doing a live, I would take the time to put on lashes and liner, but do you guys see how pretty I love this look? This is so different from the other two looks that I've done. Okay, so I am ready to take your questions. I can do some swatches if you would like just let me know. Yes, very, very versatile palettes. Can't believe I create completely two different looks and you can really let me give you some look inspo here. You can get bronzy smoky eyes with this color and all over glitter look with like pink and this glitter stunning gold all over the lid. Let's see what else a berry look with some hot pink on the lid. Okay, her matte lipstick formula is very comfortable. It's not my favorite matte lipstick formula. I think Gucci's matte lipstick formula is like the best. So I don't think she has the best matte formula, but they are comfortable, but I can't see. They are a little bit drier and yes, Riley family, I will do a updated Pat McGrath ranking video very soon. Um, okay, I will swatch a few shades. Comment what shades you would like to see me swatch. Um, yeah, the limited edition set. There are different types of pink. So the original divine rose. Thank you, Marissa. I just saw your donation. The original pink. This is the divine rose and then this mirrored pink is the divine rose too, but it's a limited edition set. Eleganza. Let's do it, you guys. So Eleganza, I think might be my favorite shade in this palette. It's creamy, buttery, smooth, and I just want to put it all over my face. It has like a lilac undertone to it. Oh, you guys Marissa. Yes, I got it. Thank you so much.  Can we talk about that? Um, the Charlotte Tilbury Quad video. I am taking my time because I'm doing individual tutorials with each palette, uh, but it is coming. Okay. I've made a good dent in it. Um, or any of the shades more purpley. So this shade right here, which is where's my color sheet, extreme burgundy has a little bit of a plum to it. So I would say it pulls a little bit more purple, but it's not purple purple. Um, I'm in love with the second shade at the top. Yes. This is Naked Blush. It's one of the most versatile colors. You're going to use it all the time if you own this palette and have it on this cheek as a blush as well. Um, okay. And then I'm going to show you guys kind of the shade everybody dropped dead for. If you haven't seen it, this is Sextra Terrestrial and it's claimed to fame as it's a trichrome.   You guys, the only thing, and I said this earlier, but this can look a little bit murky on the eye because it's not flattering. Um, you know, typically the flattering way to wear makeup is lighter on the lid, darker on the outer part with this, when you turn, it's going to be like darker in here and then lighter in there. And that's, it's not as cute. And I think I would have liked to have seen different colors personally, but I mean the formulation like, girl, look at this. Hello. Okay. Yes, they definitely will be restocking. I don't know why, but Sephora was supposed to release June 15th and then they let it out a little early. So I'm assuming it should be re available on the 15th. Hopefully, we haven't got any dates yet for restock, but of course, like she's going to restock. Absolutely. Do you have any brands you've tried multi-chromes from? Touch of Glam Beauty has really great multi-chromes, Terra Moons also. Those are the two indie brands that I'm the most familiar with and they have amazing formulas. Urban Decay Naked Foundation and Concealers on sale at Sephora, awesome. I haven't tried those, but good to know my favorite makeup sponge. I've got a stick with the classic beauty blender. Yeah, guys. So at this point, if you want to see any swatches, any comparisons, questions about what palette to pick up, et cetera, feel free to ask. Astral Solstice is the shade that makes me want another palette just in case this is palette isn't permanent to the line. Yeah, that is an extremely gorgeous shade, you guys. Do you like the Divine Rose 2 more than Bronze Seduction? I love this palette because I feel like she really brought it with the formulas, but I think I still love my Bronze Seduction more just because it's colors that I'm going to use more. Can you compare to Divine Rose 1? So here's Divine Rose 2, much, much, much brighter, you guys. And then the original Divine Rose, like Divine Rose 2 makes this look boring. It's not. These are colors that you're going to go for, especially if you're in neutral wear. But I mean, come on. So I don't think there are any similar shades in either of these palettes, but they are very complimentary of each other. Divine Rose 2 versus Shu Shu. That's a really great comparison. Let me dig for that palette.  I can't, I can't compare for you guys because I don't know where my Shu Shu went. It's not with my other, oh, no, that's not Shu Shu. Oh my God, you guys, this is going to bother me. Where did it go? Keep them in the same spot because I have a makeup problem. I just don't understand. I put all of my busy arts in the same exact spot. I'm not happy right now. First world problems, but I'm heartbroken right now. Okay, I'm not going to waste any of your time looking for it, but you can guarantee as soon as I get off this thing, I'm done though. Like I'm looking for that. Yeah. My room is not very clean nor is it organized right now. I think I'm a walking tornado. Honestly, every room I touch, it just explodes. Um, ritualistic rose. Let me grab that one. That one I do have. Where she said, okay. So you can take a look at ritualistic rose. If you don't know, it's one of her blitz astral quads that she came out with. And I love this because it's all of her blitz shades. The rose gold packaging is the same exact price as the black, but the rose gold packaging is limited edition. So here is ritualistic rose. Take a look here. Pretty different to me, honestly. I'm going to like this color is brown. I is pulling a little bit more bronzy on camera, but it's definitely more brown. And there's not a brown shade in here. This shade. I'm going to compare it to eleganza. So here's from the ritualistic road and here's eleganza. So those are just not the same at all. And then I'll take this color here. I'll compare that color to the glitter shade. So those are kind of similar, but from ritualistic rose complete, like a little bit deeper. And then here is, let me wipe off my fingers. Here is the light gold color and I'll compare it to the gold color in the divine rose too. So divine rose one or ritualistic rose divine rose two. I mean, I would say there's no exact dupes at all between the two, but I mean, there are family members for sure. There's like a gold and there's a gold in the divine rose too. There's a pink and there's a pink in the divine rose too. There's a glitter shade that doesn't have much color and there's that. And yeah, so every single color in here kind of has a friend, but they aren't, they don't look the same. I love ritualistic rose and it's a really great way to go ahead and try that formula. I'm like still looking for shoo shoo you guys. I'm like looking around. Where could let me get back? Um, the bright Tati loves purple. I love purple girlfriend. Um, I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. My Lila palette is not in this room right now either. Very organized you guys. Um, have you done looks with both divine rose palettes together? I have not yet. I'm going to, I need to because they are very complimentary and I think I want to grab into some of the mutual colors from the original divine rose because you only have these two to really kind of balance out all of the shimmers. Um, and you compare mother ship five with divine rose too. Oh, here I go digging again. They're all mixed up in the wrong places. Okay. We got wrong seduction here. This is my favorite palette from Miss Pat. Okay, so take a luke see. So we have bronze seduction and then divine rose too. You know, obviously this color is more plum, but I'm getting some vibes here. I would say completely different palettes, but we do have I prefer this palette honestly, but this palettes a little bit more creative and you have to like brighter colors. Um, let's see if there's any similar colors worth swatching. So we'll swatch this color, which is kind of a duochrome from bronze seduction. It has a stronger green pool to it. And then I'm going to pull a sextra terrestrial from divine rose to. Oh, well, that was kind of incomparable. Wasn't it? Um, yeah, my palettes seem to be camera shy because I don't know where any of them are at. I can't do things on the spot you guys. Um, how does extreme burgundy compare to I'm not even going to try to pronounce that. So here is my son from the safari palette. This is a good comparison. Thank you for suggesting that.  Uh, but these are very, very close extreme burgundy is a touch more red and besides a touch more purple, but you could pretty much get the same effect on the eye. Mom, stop talking to these people. Uh, okay. What else? Yeah, completely different. I think this is one of Pat's most unique palettes. I really don't think there's too, too much to compare to. Um, this was a pretty good dupe. Thank you for suggesting that. Um, where did I get my clear drawers? So the drawers are from the container store and they fit perfectly in these black cubes from Ikea. So container store Ikea kind of the most basic places to get that stuff. Uh, guys, stop calling my mom. Don't give her that satisfaction.  I've asked. She's she's the one that's resisting. She guys, she could give you some good. She has very good makeup taste. I need to show you guys her collection one day. I steal some of her stuff. Let me just say that. Um, where did you get your vanity and by vanity? I'm assuming you mean this messy desk back here. This is from Ikea. If you mean something else, let me know. Um, mom, they want to see a video and they want to see your makeup collection. You can just make an appearance. You guys would love my mom's collection. Um, my wall art is from TJ Maxx. Yes, I do get my good taste for my mom, my mom, even though we actually disagree a lot. Ikea is the best place for storage because it's so much more affordable than other places. Um, mom come upstairs. She's downstairs right now. She's sitting on the computer. She could come up. She noticed she stopped responding. Um, I mean a vanity is extra. Oh my gosh. So me and my mom, if I did a tutorial using her everyday makeup, the only, she has good makeup, but her skin is, she's NC 40 from Mac and I'm NC 25. It would not match me, but other than that, my gosh, the comments are moving so fast. You guys think you can get better matte lipsticks other than Pat McGrath, she has a good formula, but I prefer like Charlotte Tilbury, Gucci. Those are my two favorite matte lipstick formulas, but Pat McGrath has a lot of good colors. Alright guys, so it is 358. I'm going to sign off in a couple of minutes at four so that we got a good hour in. If you have any last many questions about the palette, let me know. Thank you to those of you who donated, by the way, you guys are incredible. I wish I could thank you all individually. I'm not getting the Gucci compact powder. My mom got it though. They're sort out of my shade so quickly. I looked into it. It smells beautiful. I would totally do a review on it if she wasn't so much darker than myself. Anybody have any info on the new Charlotte Tilbury lipsticks? They were supposed to come out June 4th and then they never did. Let me know because I was going to order those. I don't know if it has anything to do with her brand being sold. I don't know if my mom has used the powder yet. Mom, speak up, give you a review before I close this down. Yeah, she did do a great job as a moderator. I am mad. Make sure you guys when you are, yeah, Charlotte Tilbury did sell her brand to like point P-U-I-G or P-U-P, I don't know. It was like a brand that doesn't have a lot of brands that they're in charge of, but it's a Spanish brand. So make sure you guys like this video. It will help me a lot. If you are watching this not live, thank you for joining. Anyways, you can donate by PayPal or Venmo if you would like. I'm so excited to tell you guys how much we earned, but I'm also going to be uploading a video in during this upcoming week where all the AdSense will also be donated just to add a little bit more and I'm very happy with how today went. I hope you guys enjoyed today's live. I hope you had fun. I always worry that these are boring because I'm not that exciting, you guys. Alrighty, so we're at four o'clock guys. Thank you so much for joining. I had a really fun time. I love talking Pamagra. I absolutely love it. Thank you to all of those who donated. You guys are awesome. So I'm going to catch you guys in the next one. Bye guys. Have a great Sunday. I'm going to go run a 5k today. So be thinking of me and let's


I have a well-known dislike of the GNOME desktop environment. It is something that I talk about quite a lot on the podcast and elsewhere on the internet. I don't like GNOME for many reasons and I could go into those reasons and we could be here for the next, you know, 45 minutes to an hour just while I sit here and mention about GNOME and it may be something that you're interested in hearing. But that's not the point of today's video. Everybody on Reddit on r slash linux asked a good question. Why do most distros choose GNOME as their default desktop environment? And I thought this was a really good question because I wasn't actually sure and it got me thinking and I think that there are several reasons why then some of these ideas came from the comments section of this post but I have a few of my own. So to answer this question we really have to kind of divide what distros we're talking about because we all know the reason why Fedora chose GNOME as their desktop environment was because the Fedora people in Red Hat develop GNOME. They're the primary supporters of the GNOME foundation and the developers of GNOME. So of course they're going to choose GNOME as their desktop environment. So we don't have to answer the question for Fedora or any distro based on Fedora. The reason why they use GNOME is because GNOME is theirs. Once we've gotten past that point we can ask the question why do other distros choose GNOME as their default desktop environment despite not having really any investment in the GNOME project itself specifically we're looking at Ubuntu in this case. And the answer to that question is I think because it was easier to make GNOME look like Unity than it was to have KD Plasma look like Unity and kind of to go along with that. It's easier to keep GNOME looking like Unity than it is Plasma because Plasma offers the user so many options to change things and how they look. Eventually the user will have a desktop environment that looks nothing like the Ubuntu people wanted to look and that makes providing support much harder. So really it all comes down to new users because the last thing a lot of these new user focused distributions want is to give users a ton of options. And while that's my problem with GNOME from a perspective of providing support to new users the fewer options for customization you give them the easier it is to provide support because they haven't actually been able to change anything without knowing quite a bit more about Linux and installing GNOME tweaks and all this stuff. Because once you start customizing stuff it makes it harder to support because they've made changes and you might not know what changes are causing the problems. So I personally think that that's the reason why Ubuntu chose GNOME. It also has a lot to do with the fact that KD Plasma is much more complicated so it's harder to present to new users. KD Plasma also has a ton of software that goes along with it so if you choose KD Plasma as your default desktop environment you're choosing to inflate the number of packages you have to ship and the number of packages you have to maintain. Because GNOME is basically just stripped down there's a lot less in terms of maintenance that you actually have to do. There's also the fact and this was brought up in the comments section of this post I was talking about which I'll link in the video description is that GNOME has a set development schedule. It releases the same time every single year. The updates for GNOME come out the same time every single year. Plasma doesn't have a set release schedule it gets released whenever the new stuff is done. They do version increments whenever they have a batch of new stuff to release and that's quite often because they have a ton of software and a ton of projects so they're always doing releases. It's kind of like a rolling release desktop environment. So that's another reason why distros use GNOME is because they can rely on that set update schedule something that Plasma doesn't have. Another thing that was brought up in the comments section of this post was that Qt which is what KD is based on is licensed under a dual license meaning that some of it's proprietary some of it's open source and the Qt foundation or the Qt company I think is what it's called they like messing with that license quite a lot and there's always a worry that eventually they're going to take Qt and make it completely proprietary. There's been several rumors to that effect over the last couple of years that eventually they're going to make all Qt 100% proprietary or they're going to take it all and put it behind a huge paywall that you have to subscribe to and it would become infeasible for KDE to actually use it anymore so that would lead to a fork and all that stuff but it's really hard for regular distributions to rely on something like Qt when they have to maintain compliance with the GPL or other licenses that are completely open source and that rumored instability in licenses for Qt is possibly one of the reasons why some distributions just don't like KDE Plasma all that much because they're not sure if that license that is going to change in the future that could be a huge problem and yes Qt could be forked and would be forked if Qt the Qt company took the other way dealing with the process of transitioning from the main line Qt to a fork would be a process that a lot of distributions wouldn't really want to go through so that could be a problem in the future as well. So the answer to why do most distros use Genome is very complicated. It's also possible that a lot of distros just simply prefer the look of GTK applications over what Qt provides because I'm a Plasma guy. I started off using Plasma and I've always preferred Plasma over Genome but even I will admit that out of the box a lot of the KDE applications are old looking, overly complicated and inconsistent in their design. Let's just put it nicely that way. Now it's gotten better over the last couple years that's for sure but if you open up something like K Mail or K Organizer or literally any of these KDE Plasma applications they all are overly complicated and many of them just look like they were designed in 1998. They look old. Even if you can go through and customize them and make them look way better out of the box they don't look that way. And looks are important for a desktop environment. It's one of the things that will differentiate you from other distributions and other desktop environments and the fact that KDE Plasma stuff out of the box looks kind of archaic could be a problem. And people like the Genome stuff because it's simple, it's consistent. It's not necessarily easy to theme but at least it's simple and consistent. So that could be another reason. In the comment section below let me know why you think that most distros use Genome as their desktop environment. And let me know if you prefer they use something different because it's possible that there's a lot of KDE fans out there and I know I was disappointed when Ubuntu chose Genome over KDE so maybe you're like that as well. Leave that in the comment section below. Make sure you hit the like button and the subscribe button if you haven't already. You can follow me on Twitter at the Linuxcast. You can support me on patreon.patreon.com. Before I go I'd like to take a moment to thank my current patrons. 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