All right. All right guys, I saw already in the chat three attempts. This proves the trinity That's what I said too. I comment I commented this stream is about to become a trinity. It's a sign man. It's a sign Okay guys. Good now. I'm using my mobile data here. Hopefully this will be more stable and it's already Almost 12 midnight here, bro. Let's rush through the super chats and then we're going to call it the day We're not gonna Give up just yet. We're not defeated I claim is a sheitan that tries to bring the stream down for sure Let me see. Let me see. Okay. Let's return to the super chats real quick Thank you everybody who's tuning back in That's a great way to decimate the viewers for sure Okay, here we go Well, we had seer shio sunni. I am we're talking about the shio sunni. All right. That was the last super chat I didn't fully answer it yet So ultimately for me personally the 12th imam thing is a huge turnoff I didn't perceive the message of islam as something that is Directly attached to a bloodline Per se so I couldn't resonate with that for me It was the most qualified person would be able to become a halifa would become a successor so to speak and not just because you're Bound to a bloodline you will become qualified to hold that position So I don't personally believe in the 12 imam claim Which is one of the fundamentals in shia islam And this personally reminded me as well a bit of the 12 apostles of christ And then yet again people different opinions etc etc It kind of brought it away for me from the monotheistic message that I got from reading the quran. It didn't really Fit yeah, this is why I would rather say sunni but the same time The most important thing for me was if anything to become a believer in god Not again to be focused on sectarianism So, yeah That is that What do you have to say about that daniel? Shia sunni. I like it. Like I said earlier that I thought does it cure nikes answer was really good He said then in the quran. There is no shia. There is no sunni. Yeah, you're muslim, but you're not right Makes sense Care with the schools of thought best to follow the quran and the hadith Pray accordingly. You are analytical in your thought process. Use what Allah has given us before Taking things into account Yeah, for sure. I mean By saying quran and hadith it's kind of tricky, you know Because for a layman that just enters into islam to read all the hadiths as impossible So therefore a school of thought is not negative because you can learn something you can already Extract some wisdom that is based upon the quran and the hadiths because you have no Choice out of that. I mean how fast do you want to go through sahi muslim? Sahi al-bukhari and the rest it's a lot You know, so yeah, I see a place for schools of thought for sure Thank you very much. Esmeddin abu selman says you declare to people not to Allah Allah sees your heart Is that I don't know connected to the shahada that you're declaring it to people. Yeah He might be right on that. I don't know Yeah, I would agree. Listen, I think we can distinguish in religion between your personal connection to god And then the social fabric that comes with the religion So ultimately yes, if you submit your will to god, you're doing that personally, of course And that is the most important thing. However yet again, if you want to be part of the umar so to speak and you want to Go for pilgrimage to mecca, for example, right? Or you want to go to the mosque You want to be part of that fabric of society? Then you will have to declare to people certain things as well Just as you declare to the cashier that you want a certain ban, for example in a bakery and not the bread So you have to declare certain things is just what it is All right, even if you enter a jiu jitsu school in most instances You will have to declare that you want to train there and you will have to accept that you will have to wear a gi Or no, depending on the lesson. So that's just what it is There are social constructs and contracts Thank you very much for the donation aftab Ahmed says what omar series I watch the omar series. It is like the movie the message Okay, thank you very much But you are He writes with an o but I think he's talking about umar There was a series. I raked to a video and there was some footage of that series Mal says I'll help set up a discord server if you want. Thank you very much. I have a discord server I set the thing up two years ago and I never used it and People do use actually my server. There's still discussing there, but I'm never there. Sorry guys Ahmed Safan donated. Wow. Here's a hundred dollar donation a hundred australian dollar donation. Thank you very much I'm gonna give him applause Ahmed Safan, thank you very much for the generous donation my friend Salam guys, Salam follow the Quran hadith and thick the math hub And majority scholars they did the hard work so we don't have to we are muslims not anything else People that call people kafir and proclaim Innovation of others without being a scholar is dangerous and divides Yeah, I think that makes sense. I find it pretty cringe to be honest when I see muslims on youtube attacking each other So I don't like seeing that whatsoever Or Beating any niche. I saw it back in the day as well in veganism or whatnot when people started kind of imploding their own movement as counterproductive so you should never do that obviously and And when vegans become x vegans, you were never vegan make no sense Yeah, always Never christian never vegan the funniest thing is I come from mesedonia, right? But politically i'm inclined to believe that mesedonia, which is a historical fact Was part of vulgaria and therefore I say that ethnically we are vulgarians So since I proclaimed that on my youtube channel the mesedonians told me that I have never been mesedonian before either So there you go It's always the same thing, you know anyways Yeah, you're right, man If anything You should be a muslim and nothing else the other debates Leave it to the scholars to discuss who is a kafir or not Thank you very much for the generous donation, brother Bajad Khan donated two pounds Salam bobby. Are you still active on subscribe star? No, not really I should delete my page at some point. I think I have like two followers there. Thank you very much But subscribe star. I couldn't really post things there without them being censored So I stopped the same applies to patreon as well And this is why I have a telegram group attached to my patreon because fun fact I uploaded a video here on youtube I'm just going to say it was a video about the abcdefg movement And then it got deleted by youtube obviously, so I thought that's a cool idea to reupload that thing onto patreon So at least my patrons can watch it. I guess what a day later patron deleted that video as well All right, so they follow the same agenda and they don't allow certain things there either It's therefore I do use patreon as a platform that you can enter in but then you get a telegram link and this is where we actually discuss Ah Because patron itself is pretty useless same liberal agenda snowflake Yeah hardcore xyz donated six malaysian rupee. I think What is your suggestion to your christian friends? I think that's for you daniel because you talked about christian friends Oh, what is my suggestion from my christian friends? Ah, it's not really up to me. Is it? I mean I think um It doesn't hurt to to research. It wouldn't hurt them to to open a quran read you know, um Yeah, of course that'd be I mean my suggestion to them would Obviously it just become muslim of course, but like I said, it's not up to me It's it allies leading them wherever he wants to so You can do as a lead by example you know right If I if I if I give them a suggestion in any way they won't but they won't listen Of course not My response to christians Ultimately is not so much about conversion to islam et cetera. Et cetera. I mean I have to make the step myself But what I learned through researching islam is that islam is not the enemy quite the opposite So christians they should reflect who the true enemy is and I would say that in this day and age It is masquerading as liberalism And it is destroying the fabric of anybody that is god-minded, right? So therefore christian or muslim or jew If anything you should ally with muslims even if you disagree with tauheed and your pro trinity, et cetera That's all fine and dandy But the core believes the core family structure is found in both of your religions and therefore ultimately I'm not talking about interfaith movements here where we mix and match everything No, no, no, but just in terms of ideals You should not look at the muslims as the antichrist but rather as allies in the fight against satan To play devil's advocate. I think a lot of them don't understand like what islam even stands for of course They have no idea and I also didn't know before I looked into it.  He's always posting like Pretty engaging content that I mostly agree with most at least half. Yeah But now I think he doesn't want to talk to me ever again Despite this despite the fact that we most of our belief is like the same I'd be happy to You know be his brother and But yeah, I think it's it's it's odd how how they They view a lot of them view is uh, Islam is a demonic. It's crazy. The morning Yeah, yeah, it's really crazy. Yeah, they see it as demonic as I said The craziest claim that I heard was that the Quran itself was a channeled book by a demon So this was the reception some channeled book by a demon and that is here to destroy Christianity etc etc So yeah, they just see it as an enemy. They cannot understand that Muslims are just worshiping god, right? So if you believe that god Manifested in three persons. Okay, so be it. But we're still talking about God, right in orthodoxy would be the essence of god that is one Fair enough. So let's say the muslims believe only in that essence of god And they don't believe in the rest. That's fine Nevertheless, you have still the same distinction between good and evil and you should not sin And what is happening in our society everybody that is Mindful of god will see what is right and wrong. So therefore you're on the same page. So it's a theological difference And not a social one not a moral one right Really more similar than different like the similarities that they have are huge when you think about it massive, but they they Can't uh, acknowledge this they they want to throw the baby out with the bath water All right. Oh Okay, let's proceed As Medin Patkovich don't it's 10 dollars again. Thank you very much. Bobby. Did you hear of the last person to enter heaven? Also, did you ever hear about what the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him will do for him? For his umma on the day of judgment both are eye-opener. I recommend now. I'm going to check it out I haven't heard about it. Have you heard about it? About the last person that will enter heaven. I haven't heard about none I will save those things to my playlist and then check them out brother. Thank you very much Boy, would that be something if you're the last person to enter heaven some door sets behind you? Oh Lucky just on time Yes sugar donate five dollars. Thank you very much Asalaamu alaikum alaikum salam. I have recently come across your channel and I love how you apply logic and reason in your videos Thank you for your content. It makes me very happy. Thank you very much, man. Your comment makes me very happy as well I'm trying to use my Rational my logic and my reasoning without worshiping it, right? Try my best Abdullah My false idol Abdullah Alik donated 730. Thank you very much thoughts on moving live stream audio to spotify Never thought of it, man. I honestly I need somebody that is more tech savvy than me and can do that for me ultimately because Yeah, I'm just be very easy If you use zoom if you record the The zoom it will give you an audio file. You just slap that Straight up anywhere Okay, fair enough Then I would just have to piece it together because it split apart in 40 minute segments and more over my computer We'll crash 10 times as well.  This discord probably has a similar feature probably Otherwise the windows recorder itself. I guess I could use Okay Emptying the cup donated five dollars again. Thank you very much video recommendation episode one Okay, I'm gonna save that as well to my players Thank you so much for that and I think this is all the streamlabs donations We got let me just double check real quick if I missed any super chat Yeah, I did Okay, they're kind of separate here one second I need to reopen my window Okay, okay, okay One second. Oh, I have to filter through all of them one second guys Somebody sent me a message on instagram. Yeah, what is it a request and they said fake orthodox clown with some clown emojis See it worked out and that's why we show the picture That's why we show the picture of you. I mean you can rewatch it as well We saw you in church, but that was all fake as well. You put it on, right? You just put that on to masquerade yourself as an orthodox christian. Yeah, it's all mad.   And then to say the amount of time I would have to spend for what? I don't understand why would I what would be the benefit for that? Like it's some oil shake Paying you for this daniel you can admit it here Yeah, it's big money in that right demolishing it. It better be if I spent that much time in my life That's crazy Okay, I'm scrolling still through guys. I hope I didn't miss anything here, but the superchats and the streamlabs. They're not really aligned I think I answered all of it. I saw some different things here Abir is donated with all the questions. Thank you very much philip donated as well. Thank you very much with no question attached Said donated with a sticker that says yum. Okay. Thank you very much No, I think we had it all with another sticker by ahmet Who says how is it going? That's going well. Thank you very much Ah, here's another one by mohammed Shebi This one's for you daniel. How does the perspective change towards god feel? But I think you already answered that Yeah, it's like I said like tau heat only having one god is much more Simple and it's much more humbling and so Yeah, I found it to be Better better Yeah, vulgar donated 25 is a lotty Polish currency Simple answer to free will you have free will but it can be determined by Allah Allah Is who has infinite knowledge I think what he means to say is that you have free will but even that free will is already determined by god So he gave you that free will ultimately What we understand as free will is already given right by god. Yeah And it can be taken Exactly right Habiba donated 10 pounds. Thank you very much Habiba. No question attached Vuga donated again and says nowadays people confuse sunnah Which is actions with hadiths, which is sayings. What do you think? Thanks for everyone. Asalaamu alaikum. Alaikum. Asalaam Yeah, man, I'm not a scholar let alone a hadith scholar to really go into this and make a judgment call ultimately Some people are of the conviction. I heard that the actions Are not truly described by the hadiths But I say if you take the standpoint by what else would they be described? So there's literally nothing else you could go by other than the hadiths And there's somebody that coming from somebody that was very critical of hadiths himself I was very critical about it and still am analyzing it But nevertheless if we're talking about certain actions, you can only find them within the hadiths. Where else would you find them? This guy said people are confusing hadith with things that are sunnah. Yeah I don't see why anyone would do that. I mean some hadith talk about things that are obligatory some hadith talk about things that are Haram some hadith talk about things that are halal, you know what I mean? I don't know why anybody would confuse sunnah the concept of sunnah. Sunnah means like if I'm not mistaken it's like something it's Not obligatory, but it's highly recommended. It's it's a good thing to do sort of like extra credit Right, right and hadith is just a saying of prophet Muhammad I'm not sure why anybody would confuse those two things Maybe they just don't know Yeah, and I mean again within those sayings you see certain practices and certain actions. So Yeah, I mean where else do you see what prophet Muhammad has done has not done you find within the hadiths So this is how yeah, you come to the sunnah Anyways, thank you very much for the donation This one's for you daniel Abdullah al-alq asks Did daniel mention his father? Thoughts on his and did he mention his father's thoughts on islam. Okay. They asked you what your father thinks about islam interesting question My father Oh Where to start Growing up my my parents neither my parents really mentioned religion to me at all um That's I was kind of raised in an atheistic or uh How do you say uh agnostic household agnostic? Uh, when I was orthodox christian, you know, I told my dad about it and he didn't really have much to say about it Uh But my dad is is a pretty spiritual guy She's a very intuitive guy. He's definitely um Definitely ponders these things I can tell he doesn't speak about it much though um But when I became muslim I I did kind of Poke at him a little bit and try and get a You know an answer out of him. What does he really believe? And I don't think he really knows I think he's kind of I don't I to me it sounds like he's muslim, but Because I asked him like you you know christian to believe that jesus is god and man is also god He said well, that's not what I think or something something like that Yeah, so to me. I'm like that sounds like you're muslim down, but He I it was intense for him For me to become muslim I could tell he he came to visit me not long ago and he we were having lunch And he said something to the effect of like every time I come to have crossroads in my life or an important point in my life something like this happens And I didn't Push it at the moment the later asked him. I said now. What did what did you mean by that? What something like what he said like said my son became muslim And I said and what are you talking about the crossroads? What what what are you? What are you? Picking between what are you confronted with and he said like I have to I have to Do something about this about what he said about God my belief in God Wow, so Yeah, so inshallah he Will be led to the truth That's beautiful man. It's profound It just reminds me that People that are not so indoctrinated into christianity their beliefs line up much much more with islam obviously I told the story multiple times here on this channel when we talked about the trinity with my dad He looked at me and told me that this is the craziest thing. He's ever heard in his life And that's so funny. Yeah, and he thought that this is the muslims believing this I said right that was a funny part for me. Yeah, I'm talking about us. That's what the muslims believe That's what the muslims believe. That's crazy No, it's us. It's us that so intuitively nobody comes to think about the trinity No way Okay, next question What is the timeline for the shahada? So I said it before I gave it a deadline to before Ramadan basically so if I Were to convert then I would like to go into ramadan as a muslim Thank you very much. We have another donation by video games planet And that's proof that you're not procrastinating satan is not making you procrastinate because that is the hardest time to become a muslim If you were really procrastinating you would say okay after ramadan No, no, I would be happy to fast actually This I've been battling my long I'm not gonna name it here long virus symptoms for quite some time and I actually started fasting now since a few weeks And since I did this I finally started feeling better again Like actually my body started healing again And I was even convinced after veganism and all of those fasts that fasting is destructive through the body You shouldn't do it just eat raw meat eat raw eggs For breakfast ultimately break the fast right away But now I came to the conclusion that no if there is a sickness It's actually very very beneficial and lately I've been eating only one or two meals per day So I'm already fasting. What would I do? Yeah, I'm already fasting. I went through a similar kind of wave where I before I was like no eat As much as possible. It's good. Yeah, I never fast and eat a lot and Because yeah, I was doing like a pro metabolic kind of thing where it's you know, it's stressful for your body If you don't eat so it's better to eat all the time and right and Recently it just like the past month or so. I'm like Been playing around with eating less and doing less often as well and I'm like no actually feel pretty good doing this So Yeah, I can relate man. I feel much much better like this Finally my inflammation levels go down again, etc. So it's a way but I'm going to keep it like that And then when Ramadan comes about it's not much of a change, but the drinking As we cut then as well no water It's a dry fast after all Yeah I mean you you Can hydrate at night if you if you know how to do it well, sure you include the minerals and You know all that stuff and It's I think Not too difficult inshallah Yeah, inshallah Okay, brother. This is all the super chats all the streamlabs donations And I think we're going to call it here before this thing crashes yet again Yeah, so thank you very much for coming on bro. It was an amazing talk Yeah, thank you for having me Bobby and um, may Allah bless you or allow me to get on here and Tell my story and hopefully That fell upon some Ears that were inspired or moved by the story I'm sure that it man I'm sure that it was absolutely beautiful, especially the part of your marriage Obviously, but the whole journey to Islam was absolutely amazing. Thank you very much for sharing man Is there anything that you want to plug here? I linked your instagram and youtube, but Yeah, if anybody wants to reach out to me message me Do you probably instagram dm is the best way if if not my youtube is should be in the description there And you can find my email there if you want to email me or whatever Amazing. Okay, brother. We're going to call it a day. It's 12 20 Yeah, it's way past my bed house. Definitely minus one. Thank you very much again for coming on brother We're going to stay in touch. Thank you everybody for tuning in. Yeah All right, we're going to tune out now. Thank you very much for being here Daniel. Talk to you soon, bro See you brother. Salam All right guys and this is it For today's live stream or live streams plural This took a while so The hardcore supporters will be here at part three the Trinity of streams The others tuned out after the first one. Thank you so much everybody for supporting now.  Thank you very much everybody for liking the stream Thank you very much for subscribing. Thank you very much for donating and god willing Tomorrow we will be back with a new video. All right guys, but this is it For today's live stream as always May god bless you all much love and peace


In the last couple of years, my Tiling Window Manager of choice has been Exmonad. I've lived primarily in Exmonad, at least for the last couple of years, but recently I decided to go back to what is probably my second favorite Tiling Window Manager of all time, and that's what we're looking at right now. This is Qtile. Qtile began life many years ago as essentially an Exmonad clone. The developers, they decided they liked Exmonad, everything about it, the function, the feel, but they wanted to write their Tiling Window Manager using Python, rather than Haskell. And because I'm not a Pythonista, I'm not that great at Python scripting, but I would like to get better at it. I thought, you know what, for the next several weeks, or maybe even the next several months, I'm going to switch back to Qtile, I'm going to go back and live in Qtile, primarily both on the computer here at my office, my workstation here, as well as my personal computer at home. I've been working on my Qtile config, because the last time that I really lived in Qtile long term, not just logging in for a few hours just to checking up on things, the last time I really lived in Qtile was probably in the early days of this YouTube channel, which was started nearly six years ago, so it's been a long time, and I needed to go back and actually take a look at my Qtile config, because there were some errors in it. There were some things that I really, there were some unexpected bugs in it. And the reason there were some bugs in it is Qtile does see active development, so it does change over time. The configuration file has changed a lot over the probably nearly 10 years. I've probably been using Qtile on and off. I remember in the early days of Qtile, for example, instead of defaulting to numbers for the workspaces, they actually defaulted to the home row letters on the keyboard, DSDF, you know, all of that instead of one, two, three, four. I remember in the early days of Qtile, I believe the default layout was your standard master and stack layout, which they call monad tall. But these days, when I look at a default Qtile config, they're actually using like a stack layout or a columned layout by default. So again, things change over time, libraries get deprecated, new libraries get created. So what I decided to do is since my old config had some bugs, I started with a brand new config. So what I did, anybody that wants to get into Qtile or really any window manager, what you can do is typically you'll find default configs for most programs, but especially for your window managers, look for them and slash user slash share slash doc and then slash name of program. In this case, it'll be Qtile and in this directory, there is default underscore config dot pi. So there is the default config. So if you don't have a config in your home directory in dot config slash Qtile, by default, it'll read the default config dot pi that's in that directory in user share doc Qtile. Now one of the first things I wanted to focus on when I was rewriting my new config, let me zoom back out my new config. So you can see the two side by side here is the default config. When you get to the key bindings, this keys block here keys equals, and then you got the opening bracket, you know, this is not a lengthy list of key bindings, right? So it's not a lot of key bindings in the default config. And of course, if you've ever looked at any of my telling window manager configs, I have a ton of key bindings. So I actually went and added, here's my keys. And if I just, you know, scroll down a little bit, well scroll down too far, but it's a pretty big block. It's just keep scrolling, you know, it's three times the size is the default keys here. And one of the things I was doing in my old config that was kind of broken was key cords, because by default, you can use key cords in Qtile, which is one of the really neat things about Qtile. And it's also a neat thing about Xmone, which Xmone has the same built in feature where you can just use key cords out of the box. And you can see right here, I'm using a key cord, Mod E. So that's Super E followed by another key. So Super E followed by E launches Emacs and Super E followed by a launches Emacs, the E-M-M-S audio player, the music player that's built into Emacs. Super E-B would launch the iBuffer program inside Emacs. You can see all this Super E followed by another key, all these key bindings, they're Emacs related programs. And then I have Super P followed by various letters. And this is the DM scripts. So Super P, you can think as prompt, right? Because D-Menu, Rofi, you know, that's basically a run launch. It's really a run prompt. So Super P followed by these letters runs various DM scripts. Now I can show you this in action. Super P-H will launch the DM hub, right? Escape out of that. Super P-I launches the DM MAME program, which is actually a screenshot program. So D-P-I for basically image screenshots. You can do Super P-M to search for a man page or get a random man page if I'm really nerding out. I actually want to read the F-ing manual. Now the problem in my old config was there was an error somewhere. And I don't know where the error was, but there was something that caused my old config to bug out using key cords. It was a really strange error because the very first time you used a key cord after logging into Qtel. So imagine I just logged into Qtel and this is the very first key cord I ever hit is Super P-H. You know, it will work.  But then all of my super key key bindings after that don't work as far as the workspace related key bindings. Like, I'm on workspace two, if I wanted to move to workspace one, super one takes me to workspace one, super two brings me back. All of these key bindings stop working after me running a key cord program the very first time. What I had to do to fix that is I just always knew that the very first time I hit a key cord key binding after that my super keys would quit working until I restarted Qtel. And it only happened the very first time. After that you could keep using your key cords and everything would work. But it was just a weird little bug and I couldn't figure it out. And I know other people also had this same kind of key cord related problem. But oddly enough, when I rewrote my config, I guess the problem, whatever the problem was fixed itself because I didn't import everything into my new config. I wasn't trying to basically make the new config like my old config. I wanted to try some new things out. But it looks like that problem has solved itself. Once you get past the key binding section of the config, you know, you have your groups. So groups are essentially workspaces. Qtel calls them groups. And my groups section is this section here. There's a lot going on in this because the default config, if I move over to the default config for Qtel, this is the group section, right? It's much smaller. You have groups equals i for i in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. That's your workspaces, 1 through 9. And then for i in groups, you know, set the key bindings for super plus the number, super shift plus the number. And originally, because I started with the default config, I was going to use this. I was just going to use the numbers, which I am using the numbers. I was just going to use their default code. But I didn't like a couple of things about this. For one thing, their default code has this here, lazy window to group, switch group equals true. So what this does is when I send a window somewhere, so imagine I have a terminal open. So if I do super shift 3, it should send that window to workspace 3. Super shifts 3, right? That terminal window is now in workspace 3, which is hidden. It's not on any of my monitors right now. If I do super 3, I can go take a look at it. Super 2, back to workspace 2. Super 3, we'll go look at it again. If I do super shift 2, I send it back to workspace 2. Super 2, I'll go back to workspace 2, where both the windows are. But this config, the default config has this weird thing that I don't think was the case when I was initially trying out Qtile all those years ago. If this is set to true, what it does is if I hit super shift 3 to send that terminal to workspace 3, it actually brings workspace 3 to the terminal, meaning essentially it puts the terminal on workspace 3. It also takes focus of this monitor to workspace 3, and it was just weird because you could have already other things on workspace 3, and it was just, it was like everything was backwards. Every time I was trying to move windows around, the opposite of what I thought was going to happen happened, and I found that a very odd kind of workflow. So one of the things I wanted to do was make sure, in my config, I have the switch group equals false because that's the kind of standard way that pretty much every tiling window manager I've ever used kind of handles sending those windows to a new workspace. The other thing I did with the groups is instead of having this groups equals I for I and 1 through 9 and a range of 1 through 9, I just have the group names specified right in a list. So group names and group labels. Group labels is actually what is being displayed here, and you can see I have three different group labels, but if I got rid of the numbers and wanted to go back to actually naming the workspaces, because this is how I originally did it, although it looks like I got one too many workspaces, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, yeah, okay. I'm glad I caught that error. I'll have to push that to my get lab when I'm done. But if I do a restart, you can say we can switch back to workspace names here are actual words for the group labels. But for me, I like simplicity just to save on space. I'm kind of digging just using the actual numbers for the workspaces 1 through 9. Under the group section of the config comes the layouts section. So this is where you specify all the layouts that you want to use, you know, because it's a dynamic Tyler, so you can have these predefined layouts. So like the master and stack layout or the max layout or the monocle layout, whatever you want to call it a full screen layout, you can have a grid layout or, you know, there's a ton of various telling window manager layouts, right? Well, and Qtile has a lot of them available, but it only actually has two out of the box that are enabled. The default column layout, which again, I thought they were using the master and stack by default years ago when I first tried this window manager, but the column layout is not something I would ever use. And then they have the max layout, which is something most people will find a need for. Sometimes you just want the window to be max, right? You want it full screen, so, you know, you want to get rid of the bar and everything. Just make a one window, the window with focus of the entire screen.  The BSPWM kind of layouts turned off by default, you know, they have all these other really neat layouts. Well, you know, I went back and, you know, I've got my little block here and I actually turned on a lot of these. The most important one was monad tall and I made sure monad tall was the very first layout in the list that is uncommitted. That way monad tall will be the default layout unless I specify a certain workspace to have a another default layout other than monad tall. But back in my groups list here, group layouts, you can see I specified monad tall would be the layout, the default layout for each group one through nine. Now one of the trickiest parts to my configs is I'm a triple monitor user. So I've got three monitors. And that makes actually configuring the bar and all the widgets in the bar kind of tough because you don't have a good example of how to do that anywhere in the default Qtile config. This is the bar, screens. So screens equals screen and then bottom equals bar dot bar. So bottom by default, the panel was at the bottom. Well, obviously I want it at the top, so I'm going to change that in mine. But all of this happens on one screen. So how you handle this triple monitor thing is basically I need like three of these. So what I've done is I have this definition here. So I'm defining this function where I do the widget list. The widget list would be this section of their screens block here. Now mine is very long because I've got a lot going on. Lots of widgets, lots of things, right? So I have this widgets list that's very long of about 30 different widgets. Some of them are empty widgets, spacers, and things like that. And then at the end, I have defined a knit widgets screen one, a knit widgets screen two. I have a triple monitor set up, but two of the monitors will share the same bar and lay out. But one monitor, the bar will be slightly different. And the reason I have to do this is if I use a system tray, the system tray applet on the panel only works on one bar on one monitor. If you try to put it in all three bars on all three of my monitors, what happens is it crashes. It just errors out. It'll be a big white box on the bar that says config error, yada, yada, yada. So I have to basically eventually have three bars and they have three different widgets because the center bar returns everything in that widget list. But the other two panels, their other two bars, what I was doing is if it included the system tray widget, I was deleting widgets 9 and 10 from the list. So there's like 29 widgets here. That's nine and 10 were, I scroll up, there's a sys tray, right here, we've got it commented out. That's the sys tray and the separator right there. Those two widgets, because I no longer needed them. But what I ended up doing is because it was causing me some issues in other areas, I got rid of the system tray widget because honestly, I'm used to not using a system tray. For example, in DWM, you don't have a system tray available on the panel, right? DWM is very minimal. Honestly in Xmonad, I didn't use a system tray for a long time because Xmobar doesn't have a system tray. You have to use a third party tray program like a Trayer or Stallone tray or something like that. So I've, you know, I'm used to just living without a system tray. So I finally just decided, you know what, I'm going to get rid of the sys tray. The reason I got rid of the sys tray widget is because it does not like transparency. You probably noticed, I have a little transparency in this bar because the Qtile panel does accept true transparency as far as the background colors. And I have that set in my colors up here. See I have this here, of course that is RGB, a right, red, green, blue, alpha. And what you want to do to get true transparency is in the screen section, if I scroll back down where I finally have the screens listed, right here, the three different screens, the three different panels, the bars, right? Make sure you have background equals 0000000 in all of your panels. What this is is absolute transparency, right? That would be a completely transparent bar. So make sure you set the background to that. And then when you're defining your colors and your widgets, you know, and the various widgets have color colors that you can assign, you can see background colors equals zero well background colors, zero is this and that is a little bit of transparency as the EE at the end is a very slight transparency CC is a little more transparency because I actually can use a little bit of a gradient. If you wanted to really see this, I mean, I could make this one absolutely transparent and you can see it starts out with slight transparency and then fades to absolute transparency, right? That's a little jarring. Let's try something a little more subtle. Yeah. Yeah, that's not bad as well.  I like my Emacs slightly transparent, like my cocky slightly transparent. I don't have my alacrity terminal set to be transparent, but I could turn that on if I wanted. And that's about it that I changed to the default config, the rest of the config here at the end with the some of the mouse rules and floating layouts, floating rules. All of this, all of this was default. The only other thing I added to the config was this little definition here start once and it's basically sub process call. So this is a Python function to call a shell process.  Let me show it to you if I can navigate to it. Just this little bash script where it runs all of these shell commands. So starts the LX session starts pi com starts the Emacs daemon starts cocky starts various system tray applets, but I'm not using a system tray at the moment. So what I think I'm going to do is comment these out. I'm really I'm convinced that going without the system tray is probably the best thing to do these days. System tray applets have always been kind of wonky on every panel I've ever tried. It was always a hassle getting any kind of system tray patching done with DWM. The system tray on Polybar is not easily configurable. I don't think you can actually specify a placement on the bar. I think it always has to be at the end of the bar. X-Mobar doesn't have a system tray, but using things like Stallone tray and tray are really clunky because you have to create complicated scripts for those things to appear on the screen in the right spot compared to where the actual X-Mobar is or Polybar whatever it is you're trying to use alongside it. System trays, a little weird. Also the system tray widget again had a bug in it to where the system tray widget does not work if your panel is transparent. So if you use any transparency at all in your panel, you cannot use the SysTray. Well, I say you can't. You can use it, but it looks really weird and really bad because it has like it's either all white background or all black background, but the icons themselves are actually fully transparent. It just bugs out. Another thing with the SysTray is it's Xorg only, which I'm using Xorg obviously with Qtile, but Qtile does have a Wayland version and the system tray is a Xorg program. So if you were using Qtile on Wayland, you couldn't use that particular SysTray widget anyway. So for now, I've just got it commented out. So that's the config. One last thing I want to just briefly talk about is when I was going back and starting with the default config, with the default key bindings for the configs, which I left a lot of the defaults in my current config, I did notice some of the behavior, especially switching window focus and moving windows around in the stack is a little different than I think the defaults were a few years ago because I didn't notice some peculiarities like if I switch up to this workspace here, we're in the master stack layout, right? The monad tall layout. If I hit J on the keyboard to navigate through the stack, that works. J goes back the other direction, but it seems like that doesn't work in every layout. Like if I do super tab to go to a different layout, like the stack layout, right? This window over here on the right side has focus, but J, actually, there's a stack in the stack. Remember, I had four windows open, three of them are in that right stack and J cycles through that. But how do I get to the window over there? Well, I don't have a way because super J and K obviously are just going up and down in the stack. And you would think, well, super H to go to the left, right? No, that is not set. I think what you have to do is, well, I'm going to have to actually go check the key bindings. It is, here's super H, J, K, L space, mod space, super space, lazy layout next is the command move window focus to the other window. Let's see if that works. So if I do super space, now I'm over in, I guess, the left stack, super space gets me back in the right stack. Yeah, it's just kind of weird super tab would cycle through the rest of the layouts that I have in my config. Another cool thing that I added, X mode has the ability to shrink and expand windows up, down, left and right and things like that. Obviously, Qtile has that. Now, some of the key bindings that I was using for that kind of stuff were taken up by some of the default key bindings and I didn't want to just go in and just overwrite all the default key bindings. So I decided I was actually going to use some different key bindings for this. So to expand a window, right, to make it grow, and it's actually, that is the name of the function is lazy grow window or something, I'd have to go check the config. I'm going to use super plus because I think that makes sense. When you grow, when you zoom in and out of text on a terminal emulator, a most terminal emulators, what's the key binding, the default key binding? It's control plus, control minus. Well, I'm going to use super plus and super minus for this. So if I do super plus on this middle window, super plus grows it. Super minus shrinks it, right?  So pretty cool little functionality and not those functions or those key bindings are here. So these were the ones I added mod equal, mod minus.  And I specified that that key binding would be done in the monad tall and monad wide layouts because I have layout equals monad tall, monad wide. Just because I may, those key bindings don't really need to be in use for some of the other layouts like the BSP layout or the columns layout, because those layouts actually require you to be able to move windows, resize windows in all four directions using HJKL. And they've already in the default Qtile config, they've already got that set to super control HJKL. Just some neat things you can do with key bindings. I think most people probably, if you're new to Qtile, most people probably don't know that you can actually set a key binding to do two different things. So that's just a little bit of what I've done with Qtile here in the last few days while I'm thinking about it. Let me add my latest configs to my dot files. That way you guys can go over to my GitLab at gitlab.com slash dwt1 slash dot files and go to my dot files repo and look for the config.pi that's going to be in my home directory slash dot config slash Qtile slash config.pi. You can check out my latest config that I've been working a lot on. I spent many hours in the last two days by many, I mean, probably six, seven hours rewriting that config from the ground up, slowly adding things, taking things away, seeing what I like, seeing what I don't like. Right now I'm pretty happy with the panel, the transparency, all the widgets. I'm really happy with all the default key bindings and layouts and everything. And I'm really excited to be back in this thing, right? Because again, I haven't lived full time in Qtile in at least five years, probably, because I've spent so much time and other window managers over the course of this channel. And here in the last couple of years, I just kind of settled, you know, I've kind of settled on what was working. You know, kind of like I don't distro hop anymore. There came a time when I decided I wasn't going to window manager hop, you know, because I already had everything working in X modem. And then I was like, you know what, I'm just going to stay here. But now I'm kind of happy to be back in Qtile. It's almost like coming home. And as I do more with this config, extend it, maybe start writing some of my own custom functions. And we really pimp this thing out because I'm pretty excited. I want to start playing a little more with Python programming in general. So this will be a good testing ground for that. As I do some of that stuff, of course, I'm going to get it on camera and you guys will get it as a video. And before I go, I need to thank a few special people. I need to thank the producers of this episode. Gabe James, Matt Paul, Roy West, Armored Dragon, Commander Ingrid, George Lee, Methos, Nate Erion, Paul Fees, Archon, Fedora, reality's for us, Red Prophet, Roland, Solastry, Tools, Devler, Wardjintu, Anabuntu, and Willie. These guys, they're my highest tiered patrons over on Patreon. Without these guys, this episode you just watched would not have been possible. The show is brought to you by each and every one of these fine ladies and gentlemen as well. All these names you're seeing on the screen right now. These are all my supporters over on Patreon. I don't have any corporate sponsors. I'm sponsored by you guys, the community. If you like my work and want to see more videos about free and open source software like Qtile, subscribe to DistroTube over on Patreon. Peace, guys. I might even make Qtile the default on DTOS.


Yeah, American issues take two. I'm J5L. This is Think Tech. We're gonna talk about Trump. We don't like talking about Trump We think maybe it's a good idea not to talk about Trump, but we're gonna talk about Trump and hmm why we shouldn't listen to him Okay, so this is called what future for Trump now And we have my co-host that Tim Apichella We have our special esteemed guest wiki Kaitano and we have Stephanie Stull Dalton. It was a regular contributor here on American issues take two welcome to all of you to the show Tim we're gonna talk about Trump today. I really don't like talking about Trump We've all agreed that it's probably better for the world if we don't say even repeat his name But you know, he's raw meat for the press everybody wants to talk about him and people want to hear about him And there's nobody else they'd rather hear but let me let me ask you if there was somebody else out there Another entertainment person another person, you know, who likes, you know The kind of show that the apprentice was who likes raw meat on television Who likes to follow it day-to-day and see the machinations and all that? Wouldn't that help? Right now He's the only show in town in terms of the fellow who presents, you know This kind of exciting entertainment every day who wants needs and has methods who appear in the headline every bloody day Well two points by the way, good morning, Jay Two points on that is remember Donald Trump's announcement for the 2024 presidency is the earliest in history a candidate has ever put forth We could talk about why he did that. I think it was tried to flummox the pending indictments coming against them but So it's way early in the game. So why would another candidate repeat such a silly mistake? They wouldn't they're gonna wait they're gonna probably wait until March of 2023 or April or whatever but so Donald Trump is way ahead of the game and I think it's gonna work horribly against them because Donald Trump in 2016 we talked about this before the show was the the sideshow of the circus and people were had never seen that before quite like Donald Trump put it out there and They were they were you know enthralled and the media was enthralled and that's what we got and Donald Trump was reluctant as a result of all that immediate tension But now 2024 we've seen this show We've paid the price of entry and I think a lot of Americans are done with it. They're burned out Trump fatigue Whatever you want to call it So the sideshow is no longer learning So do we need another side show to compete with Donald Trump? Maybe not probably not Carrie Lake comes to mind. She's a great sideshow, but she's not but she has not been elected. She's been thrown out She's done. So to answer your question. We don't need a computer Excuse me a competitor when it comes to a sideshow Hmm Vicki, you know, it may be that we just have to wait a little and see Trump do some self-destruction here in the next few months And maybe that will be, you know, the opportunity for somebody else to pop up to emerge and be a competitive entertainment feature Do you have any thoughts on when that might happen and who it might be? You know, Tim, I hear what you're saying and Jay, but I wouldn't put it past him, you know, I think He sees that his base is starting to crumble and I think he's starting early to rebuild that And while Carrie Lake may be out, you still have Marjorie Taylor Greene Okay, and she's very much another one of those Entertainment sideshows. The sad thing I think is that many of the American public today Don't either have the Interests or desire to learn more and talk about the issues. They're distracted with these larger than life or better or worse Personalities that suck up all the energy almost cult-like Cult-like really follow to the to their death kind of a thing and I wouldn't put it past him to find a way to Resurrect himself into another persona, perhaps a victim now I Mean he just it never fails to shock or you know to shock me and how he can find a way to still Gain not maybe a lot, you know the majority but still a good number of our population and voters and that's what's scary Yeah, what's scary is it's not just one thing. It's not just the entertainment aspect of the thing of the things too I got an article from Rolling Stone here. Is it and Very interesting that they are saying not dissimilar from what we're saying is that he is Intimidating people are trying and that was part of his playbook before Once he achieved a certain level of power that he would intimidate everybody around him and demand their loyalty and Threaten them and they I'll just read the first paragraph of this Rolling Stone political article In the day in the days running up to the election Trump made a series of phone calls to GOP lawmakers and other elected officials demanding that they endorse him Before he announced that he's running you love it Or at least right after he announces that according to two sources with knowledge of the conversation The president said he was I don't call him the president Trump said he was tracking who endorsed him early Adding that those who waited too long end quotes were quote not gonna like what happens when he wins And Trump who lost the 2020 election had long operated on the assumption that he'll win back the White House He he also said he was keeping tabs on who jumped ship for Florida governor Ron DeSantis or other potential 2024 political challenges the sources say this much more to it. It's very interesting But I raised it Stephanie because I want to run it by you in terms of in another Weapon in Trump's no playbook and that is intimidating people Apparently he started doing that even before the election the midterm election and undoubtedly he's doing it now Is it is it effective? It's it going to be effective. Could it be effective later? I certainly agree on your pointing out critical issue about him But it as as important and integral to his path is his Indefatigability he never stops okay, and he is in his own fantasy world Believing all of these things that's not going to change even in the face of familial Disregard for his his new campaign yet. That was interesting that Yvonne does not Participating and sort of looks like her husband sort of half in half out But nevertheless he will not stop and this is reminding me of all I'm hearing today on and PR about Netanyahu in Israel. It's exactly very similar. It's a similar I don't know if it's exactly not but the point is that Netanyahu has been indefatigable to and stayed on it and stayed on it to the point where now Israel has the most conservative right wing government they have ever had meaning like the two-state Plan is is not going to be useful anymore Anyway, it's such a very very difficult a difficult situation for them. And now we have him doing the same thing here and recall that The The election was narrow margin Okay, I sat there watching that we're down to these itty-bitty increments of point ten It just just just made no sense to me. So that did not inspire me that we're over the hump here We are not over the hump. There's a power base out there powerful base out there That's taking note of that and that's you're saying he can electrify it energize it and Intimidate it and work it to his his best degree J And I don't know what's standing in the way of him doing that now it he may get indicted something I don't know that there's anything that can get in the way of that so that we are fully Fully vulnerable still and we cannot stop for a minute To assume that he's in the box because he's not they're all still out there waiting for him Tim I want to go to where something we've talked about for months really Something that Stephanie just raised and that is the The effect of indictments, you know, I'm not encouraged by the delay over the past two years With the Department of Justice hasn't really found a way to indict him on anything zero Now we have a bunch of cases going on but you don't have an indictment. We don't have a result and So I'm wondering, you know a what effect has that had on his ability to Operate out of his playbook and be how will that affect his playbook if he is indicted and and the number three or C His is what do you think is he going to be indicted or not? Well in the last show I said Expect one in 30 days. We're now probably about day 23 I'm glad I didn't bet you a pizza on it, but I expect within 20 25 days You'll see an indictment roll out. I think you have to wait till the 22nd to see if the The circuit court is going to dismiss the master on the Mar-a-Lago case and if they dismiss the master I think you'll see one shortly thereafter But you know your question is what happens if he is indicted and you know, Donald Trump's Announcement that he is running for the 2024 Presidency he said multiple times. I'm a victim wait till he gets an indictment then he's going to be The victim with the exponential powers of victimhood. Yeah, that's true It's all the victimhood points are connectable There's the look that they're they're making me even more of a victim anything that happens to the Donald Trump He's going to say it's a witch hunt. I'm a victim and you could be a victim too Yeah, he's trying to basically incorporate their their support into his His emotions of victimhood and they have enough grievances on their own They have enough grievances on their own that they can translate those grievances into Donald Trump's victimhood You think it'll work then it does work it had it has worked But remember there's other factors other than you know his base and I think a big factor is money Look at Blackstone. They're pulling out major Republican donors are pulling out now Donald Trump may have a war chest of a hundred million dollars That's a that's nothing to sneeze at but when you start getting the media to pull out Covering for his coverage you get the dollars starting to pull away This is a serious iceberg to his Titanic and Watch out. He he may not get the funding that he thinks he's going to get and all the victimhood in the world is not going to change that Mickey You know what about the base because the base, you know in the absence of evidence of the contrary Although his big funders may be pulling out although the you know the people in liberal cities people like us, you know Are not affected not it is certainly not impressed by what he's doing but the but the base may still be loyal to him and You know when he threw his hat in a ring. I imagine he got a lot of new contributions Over that and if he had no other purpose it was to raise money So what do you think about the base and the money and their loyalty to him? You know, I think the only way to counter a surgeon Trampania, you know is really for the Republicans to find one or two other candidates to rally around and for them internally for that Dedicated base to come to their senses and say well, we have very different views from the Democrats Certainly, we don't need to rally around a lunatic, you know, who wants to be a dictator I think that if they can do that that is probably the better hope Really for the Democrats to have some kind of balanced conversation But the other thing I would say is I think a lot of this is going to hinge on where the economy is How we manage inflation? I think when people are satisfied and happy There's a lot less anger, which is what Trump is feeling, you know off of right the border They're taking our jobs. We just had this conversation with some folks the other night Nobody's taking any jobs without Hispanics Filipinos the immigrants in our country the economy would come to a standstill you couldn't function There'd be no restaurants. No hotel cleaners, you know But he's feeling off this because he knows it resonates with people who are not happy with their situation So I think a lot of it also depends on how our economy is You know, we were very impressed, Stephanie, with the fact that the box news, you know, has pulled their You know, support for him and that's an understatement of it And you know, and maybe other media will follow and certainly MSNBC and CNN are going to keep on pointing out that how off the wall he is But but the problem I started with is He's he's the guy. He's the Bonnie and Clyde. He's the anti-hero for the American people Nobody nobody presents them the same way. How can the media actually If they want to slow him down Well, I don't think they're going to be In control necessarily because the as I understand of the commentary on prospects For congressional people to do their work. It's going to it's going to be about investigations and again, this this Goes into Tim's point about the victimization So depending on how it is that the the republicans are going to spend their time In the house and how successful they're going to be with with those investigations and getting back at all of these ridiculous considerations and controversies and their conspiracy theories They're being they're being encouraged to not go that route. But nevertheless, I was very Encouraged that the White House Biden they've been preparing for this Eventuality which they thought was going to happen. So they're ready to go to to to fight back on on this I don't like using fight because I think that really they're trying to do everything to get into position to take advantage of any opportunity they're going to have with the Republicans to be bipartisan But they're they know the reality of it is they're going to have to get through this Jim Jordan stuff And if McCarthy is going to be able to control any of it So again going back to the point of the victimization Then he's got all of that agenda to work with And that is going to draw the base and that's going to feed the base and they may not be able to get past that So quite frankly over the next year. I think it's likely we're going to see a lot of him We're going to hear a lot of him. We're going to have the base lit up But but I think other factors will occur as he says we're going to have an economic situation improved, etc So the multifactorial here and it might get better, but it couldn't stay bad for a long time Here we are tim and We have we have to recognize that um as Stephanie does that this is dynamic And what we have today is you know, and this has been the case from our first coverage of trump Is it changes and all kinds of new factors move in Factors pro factors con it's part of you this This apprentice show You never know what's going to happen from day to day. It's like reality, isn't it? I mean, I'm wondering if you could help us understand What factors what changes coming forward going forward would help him and would hurt him If for example, you know, we teeter-totter on what's going on in ukraine With putin we teeter-totter on the economy. We teeter-totter on the southern border right now She has so many things that that could change dramatically. I mean to the point of you know, taking the headlines Um, I might add that the new york times yesterday Had a an editorial board article the likes of which I have never seen before They really let him have it Um, they it was a long article It probably occupied in the print in the print version the whole left hand column in the editorial page And it was it no holds barred. Uh, he's incompetent and he is not worthy Um, that's that was the principle of it. And if the press does that, uh, maybe maybe that's another element You know in all of this mix, but I want to know from you What what events what dynamics could change this this recipe going forward? Of question, um factors Well, we've already talked about some of the factors and that is one money campaign donation monies from the big the big the big funders Uh, number two is media coverage Number three though is the candidates themselves. We may see a spoiler candidate We may see a list cheney break out and say for the good of the country I'm going to run as an independent and she could pull the reasonable g lp out away from trump should he be the nominee um Also, you know jay remember a year ago We are fantasizing if you will you want to use that word fantasizing about a candidate who has standing and that candidate and standing would say Donald trump should be removed from the field under the article article 14 of the The constitution paragraph three And an indictment would go a long way into proving to a court that that candidate and standing no matter who it may be Has a good point So there's so many factors that are unknown. Um, but I think just a quality candidate to distract Away from the tired worn out trump fatigue issue that we're all experienced And and even the g lp base, I think are getting tired of them some of them And we're waiting for a quality candidate, but it's way too early I mean if ron to santas were to say sure i'm gonna run he just got elected governor That would really hurt him that he was you know His his run for it being governor of florida was all a sham because he never really wanted to be a governor of Of florida for a second term. So he can't put his hat in the ring for at least I say at least seven or eight months Um, so we're gonna be looking at other candidates. Who knows Yeah You know what do you think of mike pence? Do you think he's going to run? Oh, of course He said so if not explicitly certainly implicitly with his interview Mike pence, um, will be a nice Calm kind of like joe biden a nice soothing effect on the republicans saying. Oh, yeah I remember when it was kind of like to be normal as a party and mike pence would really represent that um When he throws his hat in the ring vicki, that's a great question Vicki who else do you think might you know emerge here? and uh and be the The person who could I don't want to say challenge, but I will say challenge trump at least for the headlines You know, I think that uh, the republicans Who so want to win you know in two years? Are going to look at it differently from the last election and I think that they recognize donald trump Uh, hopefully they're not going to be the base supporting him and with that said I think they may rally around One other candidate and go all in to support them. I uh, I don't think it will be a list cheney I think it's going to be more like a Uh, a pence or a desantis both of of whom will invoke the Religious issues and self-anointed, you know that it's providence I'm anointed by god to be the next president And energize that religious base to really get behind them That that's just my own feeling that that is something that could happen You know, stephanie, it's entirely possible that with trump sandberg a diet um, he may not have the health to last through 2024 or thereafter and I just wonder what you think will happen in the country That's going to create a you know, if it happened right now Um, it would create a big vacuum. Uh, we'll call it a political social Beyond all those things, uh a vacuum in the country in the news and in our public attention But what what would happen if trump disappeared off the stage? Uh, right now or in six months or in a year, what would happen to the country? Where are we? What would we be doing missing? um yearning for Would we survive as a democracy? I think it would be a welcome situation To to the large degree because recall that there are many secret republicans and others that Just can't take it either and there there is negative towards him as uh as democrats, uh, and liberals are but I think it would be fine. We move on, right? We have done jfk and we have done we've lost a lot of people and we keep on going and there's always someone competent to pick it up if we can um manage it I don't know that that's desantis given his extreme stance on freedoms and how many he's taken away and I'm just appalled at these people that are are getting so much acclaim And winning elections when they've done nothing to help their people and in particular ron desantis I mean even went after the mouse for crying out loud. I mean, I how can anybody forget that? So, um, I'm just uh Yeah, I think yes, it it raises In a question about what's going to happen, but it won't be but a heartbeat before The next person is going to step up. We'll find out who that is I I don't know if that pens his light in any fires and uh, he's just not going out much for the constitution or the country He's all about selling his book. So we've got some players here. It's just like the person that's going to be perhaps the next house Leader, so I'm there's somebody that's been running under the radar Maybe to me he's been under the radar. Maybe you all know about him but uh, so there's somebody out there that can do this and uh, I think the democrats have some fabulous Possibilities to draw on And we'll mention the california governor. He's doing quite well And I think would be eager to support america in some dire circumstance like that Or on his own volition So that that's uh, what I'm thinking american is resilient And uh, we come back and uh, we're gonna get over trump and the sooner the better and I think everybody's ready That's interesting. You put it that way in america America needs to come back and trump at the same time is trying to come back Where are we that we have to come back? Everybody has to come back Well, we just go forward He reinserted himself. I mean he was supposed to be gone two years ago So he inserted himself In the whole thing and he's going to continue to do that And we're going to have to endure it until he runs out of steam or hamburgers getting or some other issues Come up and he chooses to proceed. Well, it's worth it's worth watching although I I hate to use his name It's we have to watch it All the media has to watch it. Yes, you know, tim I wanted to ask you probably the most difficult question of the day and that's this In terms of the dynamic, um, you know, we have been following trump since Pretty much the beginning of his term in 2017 Um, and you know, we've called and so by various names and we've tried to connect the dots on it and And we've seen the country change Okay, we've seen all his machinations the machinations people around him Uh, you know who we merged as his loyal and faithful We've seen the base change if we were watching Um, and and I've seen the democracy change um, and and the people who were say 12 years old At the time you and I started to do this Um are now voting They didn't know anything. You know when they were 12 Most of them.  Since you and I started talking about this How has our democracy our view of the rule of law our view of government Our view of government officials How has the country's view changed and how has the view of those Informally 12 year olds How have how how is their view changed? Well, Joe, you know, you're right. We've been doing these shows for over five years. Uh, trump week That was a long running title for our show Um, I like to think those 12 year olds. We're watching our show and they're savvy voters I'm sure To answer your question. Um I think Democracy actually has sprung forward Look how many people are engaged in voting process Like we are seeing numbers like never before across the country. This is a good thing Even if they vote for Donald Trump, we have engaged voters And before we had a lot of apathy and you know, I hate to say but hawaii is probably the number one state for Low voter turnout, but my god look at how many people are engaged with politics And the topic of the day. So I think this is a good thing for democracy Um, I think also people realize How fragile democracy is and it doesn't take much to really Weaken its foundations and they've seen the you like to use that word machinations And that's a great word the machinations of donald trump to uh, basically chisel And detract from those foundations of democracy and it's not that difficult And so I think that's a real learning lesson for a lot of americans And I think the midterm elections prove that I think people were concerned about What direction election deniers are taking our politics and how they fall and lock step with donald trump And I think they said i'm going to vote differently I'm not going with the flow. So donald trump and his influence lost the independence And lost moderate republicans. That's what the difference was in this midterm election So I think many positive things have come forward in the last five years I also think that on the negative side that americans have become desensitized to outrageous words and behavior And donald trump still has that what I would call a hypnotic influence upon voters Basically to follow his words to the nth degree and donald trump as i've Former governor john wyhey said donald trump has given permission to a certain population to follow and like and Replicate his poor words and actions. So those are the negative things that I think we've seen in the last five years But I'm hopeful. I I'm really I'm really energized and very positive that Fox media is pulling away donors are pulling away and I think these are positive signs. So More more more hope for the future Vicki, I have a question this Just as challenging for you You know, how how has this whole trump experience? And you've been at the point of it as a as a candidate for governor How is this trump experience affected? Hawaii the voters in hawaii and the legislature in hawaii the government in general in hawaii And we are now at another, you know, one of our many inflection points Um, how do the midterms affect our voters and our government in hawaii? Oh, are we I'm put it this way. Are we closer? Um to what's going on in the mainland now than we were A few years ago and will we be closer still? Well, I think there's no question that hawaii is different from it from a decade ago And I I do think that's why I I like this show because what happens on the mainland Does impact hawaii and you can't deny that and sometimes just because of our location people here think Oh, that's the you know, the mainland. This is hawaii, but it does we're all connected together One of the things for me as an immigrant Asian that was very concerning with donald trump is there's no question that he fueled a lot of the anti asian You know the hate feeling Blame covet on china You know and and that definitely has Created more of that anger in our country And I think you're seeing some of that here In hawaii, although of course we're strongly democratic But there's there is more polarization than there was 10 years ago It's not a bad thing to have differing opinions. I think that's important to have differing views But how we come together to work through that for the good of the majority of the people That is what's at stake and I I hope that Trump's setting aside that we can have more balance in this country And that the 2024 elections will build well as the midterm has overall been I think for democrats It partly relates to the the conversation that's had with kim That one thing you can't deny none of us can deny is that there's been more hate We have grown to have more divisiveness and more hate and we still have it So let me go back to tim and say let's assume that let's assume that my perception of it is right That we do have more you know per vicki's thought We do have more hate more bigotry going on in the country and it happened during trump's watch and and in my view It's because of trump he just as he incited that January 16th insurrection. He also incited the hate How does the country recover from that because it could be that we have we have found our own devil here That we have found this kind of satanic Thing in our culture. How do you put the genie that the satanic culture back in the bottle? Um, you know what jay? I was I can't believe you brought that up because I was thinking of making that point So um, can I just jump in here and then go to tim because I wanted to make the point that What we have from trump is his base and he has incited or resurrected or Brought up a base of people into a power structure that we have not been very cognizant of before That is not going to change because those people are not going to give up their power So it's how is that those people are going to be managed are going to be influenced are going to be led That is going to make for um our devilment in the future or our way of somehow moving forward So tim I I just had that already was in my head. Yeah, no, I think you're spot on I think you're spot on and again I think donald trump brought out the underbelly of what's been in america for hundreds of years and that is um our inner racist feelings And until the last 10 years, um, I think there's been a white male Fear factor that's been unspoken And donald trump for lack of a better term has released those demons And until we can assure americans, especially white male americans that no your role in society is not being pushed in the back of the room You're an equal player just like everybody else But um right now kind of like Vicki's comment about immigration and how the immigrants are going to take away your jobs Well, that's a false flag. That's not true Just like um the the stoking of white male fear. It's not true replacement theory. It's not true So until we get a leader that can coalesce all parties and we need it It's I think it comes down to a leader that can that can is charismatic Can you communicate effectively and is seen as a bipartisan leader for all of america? I don't think we get to that point in which you've suggested jay. I think we continue to struggle long I think it comes up to a leader that it is not a polarizing uh leader Who who who tries to separate and divide americans? It's a leader that tries to bring them all together Yet at the same time has the support and following of both independence republicans and democrats Yeah, amen to that. Okay. We're time. We're time for final comments Vicki, can you go first? One thing we haven't covered is the dynamics in congress right now, you know with the result of the midterms And you might discuss that I leave it to you, but can you give us your final thoughts today? Yeah, I I'm encouraged by the midterm elections I think what it said was that no no one party can can take that role of dominating the country We need to work together And I think it also showed that for the republican base Donald trump may not necessarily be the one in 2024. So I think all around It's encouraging. I hope that we can move forward and media and Should give equal time to other candidates so that the public can get to know others and not just keep hearing the name because sometimes that in itself Encourages people just to vote for them because of familiarity, even if it's a bad one So I'm encouraged and thank you all for having me today Stephanie what are your final comments you'd like to leave with our audience? I would like to leave my comment about my concern that uh, hawaii turn out in our election Was uh 41 percent I was utterly astounded that that and I think that as all the things vicki has said and and and tim too We have got to be actively involved in our democracy and whatever we can do To encourage That higher rate and it was higher across the nation I don't actually have the figures, but it wasn't higher than the last election But it was high. So, uh, we hawaii's behind the Behind on this and I I think we need to address that and and remind our leaders to get let's get excited about it and get out There and and do our special thing which is to vote Yeah, the mainland could learn a lot from us on honestly accepting turnout So the republicans are getting active in like to have more than one opinion of course we want that but we still want to make sure we're managing our Our portion of the conversation and and the activity definitely So let's go hawaii get out and vote crying out loud. Okay So tim, uh, you know your turn, but maybe you could among other things address the notion Uh that one of these days And it's wishful thinking that trump is off the radar and off the headlines And uh, what what are we going to do here on think tank? What are we going to do for news and comment? Will we talk about flowers rainbows and unicorns? Let's go with the unicorn More happy things j. I'm burned out man. It's been five years It's aloha time. Yeah, let's talk about why we live here How about a movie tonight? I um, I may share I may hold the minority opinion here from all the experts, but um, you remember the title of my show yesterday was Trump is no longer kingmaker and if I were to put a subtitle to that title it would be Trump is toast not all the orange marmalade is going to help him so, um Look, I'd like to think that as the indictments come down the path As money rolls away from him as media attention rolls away from him Donald trump will continue to spark off like a disgruntled nine-year-old bully on the playground But he diminishes over time he starts to fade and god that would be the most wonderful thing And if it takes a mike pence to do that because he's a calming Sort of personality fine. Let's let's bring on mike pence Or a democrat if you don't mind if you don't mind. Yeah So, um, I suppose, you know, you go home today and some 12 year old kid Says to you, uh, tim What did you guys talk about on american issues take two today and your answer as well among other things we We talked about orange marmalade. That's right and stay tuned little kiddies because in five years you're gonna be voting Yes, we're gonna get them out next time and vicky. That's another issue with the the whole turnout who won I'm just so shocked at that this time Yeah, so we all right tim tim up and shallow Vicky Caetano, Stephanie Stolton. Thank you so much for joining us today. Great discussion Thank you so much for watching think tech hawaii If you like what we do, please like us and click the subscribe button on youtube and the follow button on vimeo You can also follow us on facebook instagram and linked in and donate to us at think tech hawaii dot com Mahalo