Good day. Hello Vinay. Hey, Matt. Good morning. Good morning. How are you doing today? Thanks. How are you? Pretty good. I guess all things considered, right? Yeah. No, by the way, great job on all the coordination and picking up and running these meetings. You're doing a great job. Thank you. I appreciate that. Happy to help. Yeah. As I believe Dan and others have noted a few times while we find our feet to chop wood, carry water and the rest of the house. Right. By the way, do you have a chance to know who added the, I guess, the open item for discussion today? I don't see any PRs, but I see this Actually, can I confirm if my screen share is working? I've never confirmed anyone if Zoom lets me share a single app. Just so How do I do that again? Share. There we go. So is my browser window rendering now? Yeah. I mean, it's the meeting notes document, yes. Perfect. Okay. So I'm using Zoom properly because someone added this one here and I just moved it down and formalized it. I would like to. I would like. DoD exotic security controls for Kubernetes just because I saw this, but no one put their name and there was no update there. So I just want to know how to call out or offer to step up and cover this topic when we get to it. Yeah, we'll find out. And if not, I'll just shelve it till next week till someone decides they want to raise this topic specifically. Right. What was the topic Matthew? Good day, Dan. Here, I moved it from the top section of the document, which was sort of planned future meetings and moved it to today's and this whole highlighted area is pretty much the addition wrote slash verbatim. And someone just added this, but I didn't put an author or anything there. So I wasn't sure whom to offer to discuss this. I wonder if that is the individual who was looking for DoD compliance feedback, a few meetings back. Is this something that should go here in the discussions or is this something more or someone would file a ticket or something in GitHub and then use that channel to get this discussion going? Right. I'm not sure if we have the subject matter expert to bring the bear. Okay. I'll just make it an open item. And if anyone knows, then they can chime in during the open floor. And if not, I'll just leave it in the document and no one chimes in for next week. So I'll just remove it. That's good. Okay. I'm just going to turn off the screen share for the moment. Hey folks, really quickly. Are there any questions on the Harbour Review that's happening? I mean, I don't see Andres here. I see Martin. No. I didn't see anything on the agenda either. I'm just wondering if I need to be here or not today.  Oh, you can't hear me? No, no, I can hear you. Someone else. Oh, yeah. Morning afternoon everyone. Folks are still trickling. I'll wait them to ask my question later. Just in case Justin or Andres show up. The other Justin, by the way, not Cormac. I work with other Justin's. I'm used to the Justin confusion problem. So Michael, unless, you know, there's business, particularly covered scheduled. The assessment flow doesn't really weave back through, you know, run a business meetings. Too much. So that's been the pattern. I'll just jump out at that point then. Thank you Dan. Appreciate it. Okay, so it's about five minutes in. We're at roughly critical mass. If there's anyone that's new here, this is your first meeting. I just posted a link in the chat to our attendance. So please feel free to put your name in there. And if you have no update or you don't want to be called on, just please put quote unquote no update next to your name. And if you'd like to introduce yourself or if you have a topic you'd like to bring up, just append that to the side of your name. And we'll get to you during the introductions. With that being said, I first things first, I need to ask if anyone's able to volunteer as a scribe slash meeting minute taker today. I'm going to go ahead and silently step in and volunteer.  Sorry zoom requires registration now. Yes. I just see that I, there was a thing, the news, I think it was some local stations a few weeks back on people pranking zoom calls because they were unauthenticated, and they couldn't kick the person house was like ventrilo calls, like 10 years back. Right.  So I think we should, we should consider if there's something else we could use. The only ones with which I'm versed or at least familiar is WebEx and slack, which I believe we already have slack, but I don't know if we have to pay more come up with funding for video chat calls. That's a point. Do you want any chance, Justin, if you don't get the chance I could do it but do you want to throw a maybe an issue in the GitHub page there and I'll add it to the next meeting and at least address it to the best of my ability after this meeting. Because that sounds like a very good. Yeah, I can, I can add a issue or I heard somebody else speak up I'll let them talk. Justin just a little bit of context there. We lean on the CNCF for infrastructure around zoom and our meetings are automatically recorded and archived and set aside for us to, you know, through mechanisms of the CNCF to just know that, you know, when we we decide to break from the pack, when and if we decide to break from the pack that, you know, there is a phenomenon there that will have to be advocating and potentially, you know, there's the potential for us to lose that battle.  You know, the ease of use that I've become accustomed to is a lot more suspect. Okay, I don't yet have any scribes at the moment if anyone's able to step in great thank you. Push comes to shove I'll wait till the meeting goes up on YouTube and I'll just extract some minutes post facto from that. So moving forward, is there anyone from any external working groups or special interest groups, the CNCF SIGs here today that has any updates. Okay. I'm just going to go through the attendance here I see one individual with an update mark underwood no update but comment on simulation. Mark, can we pass the mic to you. Hey everybody I'll keep this short so I belong, I published a paper a long time ago with a separate professional association that deals with simulation standards interoperability and in light of this pandemic thing I think there's a lot of lessons learned around how to integrate simulation into security. This is one of the takeaways I think that we're going to end up with. This usually came up in terms of cloud scalability. But I think there's more to this than scalability and you know I could invite somebody from that association to talk about the current state of the art in that and you know how this might be fit into security practices but I just thought I'd mentioned that in light of this, you know I used to own the pandemic simulation calm site, because we had a failed proposal to deal with this in the h1 n1 era, that would be 2009 or so. So I had some familiarity with the then DoD and DHS would both have showed some interest in it in in that timeframe but it really hasn't been fully adopted in security practice so, you know, given that we're kind of leaders in the cloud space it's something we could think about. I could think it fits in the, the bleeding edge category as opposed to must do things for incubating projects of course. Thank you, Mark. Okay, if there are no comments or questions for Mark, I'll just go through alphabetically to our attendance for the updates. Dan, I have one for you. Yeah, so yesterday was TOC meeting day with sick updates. As we look out probably May timeframe, we have a, you know, of course we have Harbor, which is, you know, progressing and then, you know, on our horizon we have three new projects that are, you know, coming into our flow. So, DEX and Key Cloak are identity projects that we, you know, are sort of pending to evaluate and JJ's begun putting together a bit of an overview for, you know, May as kind of an identity month and we'll, you know, dive into a couple of identity projects and, you know, have the self sovereign identity that Sarah's going to connect on through. So, you know, something for the horizon. Justin Cormack. There was another project that was supposed to be on my radar IDXL or something like that. That was my, IDXL or something, you know, jumble of letters that was apparently proposed a couple weeks ago, and I missed the TOC meeting. Is that ringing a bell? I need to go back and pull that through. Yeah, I do remember that there was another identity provider that I wasn't familiar with. Was it proposed or just discussed that it hadn't formally proposed? Okay, got it. I do remember that there was a second one. I've been trying to track that down. I haven't been able to pick up that thread. It was the one that hadn't proposed. It was the one that there was a Twitter thread, which Liz replied on where they were concerned that the barrier to entry, even for sandbox was very high. But maybe we want to handhold them. I'll try and find if it was that one. Justin, you now know more than I do, because I didn't even see that Twitter thread. Just being able to file a PR so we can actually track things that are real and like desired. I don't know. I mean, there's two known knowns and one known unknown out there that trying to connect the dots and see how much we want to prioritize. That's all for me. Thank you. If there are no comments or questions for Dan, I'll move on. I have one from Martin. Yeah, no problem. No problem. I know my family name is hard to pronounce even in Bulgarian. So I had a question I, I commented that I wanted to join as a observer on the harbour assessments, like a couple of days after the sign off from Dan. I wanted to ask if I can formally join. I'm already reading the self assessment, but I just wanted to clarify this in my in my what Sorry, I was trying to start this zoom issue up on the thing and I had a hard time finding the tab to unmute. I don't, I don't have any real problem with it. I don't know what officially being an observer does for you that that unofficially going in and putting comments and doesn't do, but I don't think it really matters. If you did the conflict form, which I guess you did. And then I don't see a real issue so I can go ahead and add that I'll do that in a moment.  So that's why I asked because I thought this is something that should be done right for every single reviewer or participants. So it's reasonable in general I myself want to do the same but time didn't permit for me to take part even just as a flat on the wall observer but I also wanted to take part in a similar capacity just so I can let's say we're versed in security reviews from our own backgrounds or with our own companies but we like to sit back, watch the experts figure out what the standard approaches and then next time around not make any silly mistakes at least that's how I approach it myself. Yep, I agree. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions for right. I have a question, maybe to Justin capos. This is Vinay here and is there a formal document that we're trying to put together in terms of the next steps that we need to be getting together I know there's a meeting suggested for the 13th is the first meeting where we get together and figure out a plan to go forward with. In general, as you've been you and others have been doing like going in just responding to the questions that the reviewers have is a pretty good way to do things. And in the end there will be two documents, there will be your document that you write and then there will be a document that we write that kind of is a summary of what we think. In general, we will try to push you to make your document include the kinds of things we want to say. But, you know, we also have this document that's a page page and a half to pages something like that that that gives us the ability also, you know if we can't agree or if we want to state it differently to sort of in our own words, summarize things. So I've been going through and obviously you've you've seen over the last few nights and earlier today. I've left a lot of pretty detailed comments in different places. And we can try to chat about those either. So ahead of that meeting if you like, you know, you can reply to my comments to you can suggest things we can talk in the slack channel. However, you know, sort of make sense to move forward but you don't have to create like another separate document the idea is hopefully that document will evolve into something that answers the questions that that we all have. Got it. Thank you. That makes sense. Thank you. And I have one last update here from. Just close loop there with Martin.  You know, in terms of, you know, assessment conflict sign off. It's really, you know, escalating to the co chairs is really. You know, to help us navigate through any issues where there are complex in the situation where there are no complex, you know, it's really at the discretion of the assessment team. And, you know, it's it's always great, you know, one of the topics that one of the questions that came up yesterday at the to see meeting is, oh my goodness it seems like, you know, there's increasing interest in going through six securities assessment process and it's like, great, like, that's why we build a process and why we're, you know, continue to invest in growing that that team. So, in terms of, you know, observer bandwidth.  It's like, you know, managing interns, right, you know, it's it's it can be, you know, free help but it's also a lot of extra effort to, you know, carry folks through the process. So, you know, we're all dealing with, you know, kind of crazy times and quarantine right now and, you know, fitting in all of these things and trying to keep the keep everything moving forward.  You know, that is always going to be, you know, well received and, you know, look to Andres and Justin for guidance on how you can help. That sounds very reasonable and pragmatic to me. I see it as a one-off thing in that learn it the first time, pay less attention and then second time around actually start chipping in and don't don't treat it like a free learning program, but more something that we're just getting better at contributing to. That's at least I spin on it. Thank you. From a from a hardware standpoint, I came back since I saw you guys talking about hardware. I have to zoom meetings side by side. By the way, this is interesting. The, you know, from our side, you know, we welcome more observers like more eyeballs into this are going to raise questions that were improving our dogs were improving our process. The one thing I will ask is that, you know, we're almost at the tail end right now. We have our live discussion on Monday. So, you know, we went through two weeks of questions. So I don't want to kind of start all over from the beginning. Obviously, for the right reasons, we'll do everything like good questions that come up or go with it. But, you know, bear in mind that in about three business days, we're having a live discussion and start wrapping up. So we are towards the end of that timeline. That's good. Thank you. Okay, I have potential. Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah, and I do like as part of my update, but just think I'm the last one. The I want to encourage anyone who is participating in this to really get your comments and things like that in as soon as possible. We, I know there's a tendency to want to wait till the last minute but because like for instance I've asked in my comments for quite a few things that will take some time, or at least need some discussion so I can understand a little more. But I think are kind of missing from the document. I think it would be quite unfair of me to drop this at the last minute. So we want to to come in and have our questions and things like that is as early as we reasonably can. And I think the expectation isn't that like we walk into that meeting and then out of the meeting, you know, after that there's sort of no changes need to be made or things. I think that that meeting in part is is meant for us to have a discussion so we as reviewers can kind of compare notes about what we all have seen and think and then, you know, maybe ask for some additional things or drill into questions where we might, you know, I might say oh I thought it worked this way and then someone else might say no I think it works that way and then based on on what we understand then we understood different security properties to be the case out of out of where harbor is today. So, yeah, absolutely and I want to echo that so you know, Andres and Justin and others have added comments that it took me a while to actually go and I mean I'm writing. I wrote like three or four pages of new content for questions that came up so far so you know, and I try every night to replenish them and not just another couple more comments yesterday that I need to replenish tonight and add them so the earlier that these comments come in then gives us. It gives me more time to internalize it and add the content if it's something new that's being asked for. Yeah, and also feel free to push back a little if there's things that you think are sort of just unreasonable or duplicative or whatever. But, you know, that should be like I think of a discussion that you certainly should have with with like Andreas and whoever the person is that's having it and maybe just have it in the slack channel to say hey, I did these things but I looked at this and I just don't see how this would help and I feel like we already say this here and you can read this can we, you know, isn't that enough. I think that's that's fine we're not just trying you're not you're not at the mercy of all of us telling you know, having to follow all of our exact commands we're just trying to get clarification to help make the best document possible for this. Yeah, I understand thank you. I mean, I so far everything has been reasonable. And, you know, obviously to an outsider that doesn't know hard board the questions don't seem out of work like me that I know hard boys and hey this is this is this is expected that's their natural thing but obviously this document is meant to be standalone or stand on its own. So, it's so far everything has been reasonable so I've been adding them as like as we go along. There are, you know, for the most part, I think, Andres asked for night, there were, let's say 10 links that pointed to other documents he asked for somebody in this dog. I think eight out of those 10 I did it for the other two, because it's a living document and things like road maps and other things change so frequently. I opted to keep the external links because it's the right thing to do, like someone that sees this two months from now, I will get completely out that information in some of those areas, but thanks. Thanks. Thank you. Does that conclude your update Justin. It does. Okay, yeah. Alright, we don't have any PRs noted for chair approval or general discussion nor presentations but there is one thing here in the notes that I'm just going to set up a screen share here for and see if we can identify who the contributor is just so we can raise it and if not defer to the future discussion. My browser coming through. Yes, and I think this is actually someone who is looking to be able to take this to the Kubernetes security group first. Okay, I don't believe this needs to be here, but I will go back in and I believe I know who's doing like who's putting this stuff in. Okay, yeah. I'm not familiar myself where it should go or, but not but if there's some better place to put it really Kubernetes specific and not as focused for the CNC F like overall project group. Okay, thank you. Sure. Okay with that being said, my attendees Karen. Before I go to the open floor since there's no presentations or additional topics there. I'll just quickly note that if there's anyone that's new here today I'm still learning all the names myself. Feel free to just ping via the chat function there if you'd like to be introduced or introduce yourself. Okay, so with that said, we can just jump straight to the open floor so anyone wants to bring in my topics. Now's your chance. I had a question maybe, maybe a clarification. So in the broader charter of sync security, I mean, and forgive me I should go and read all the documentation is available as well and I'll do that. Is it to be the oversight community committee for example to provide guidance on on new projects to the security assistance of course that we're doing and those kinds of things. And what are the other activities that we could take on and propose just broadly speaking I mean if if then you or someone could talk about that it just just a good sense of what are the broader projects or activities that we could take up an address. That would be helpful to identify an index as we think through what we can do. Does that make sense. So again, you're you're looking for maybe not not necessarily plugged in or yeah identifying where we can plug in where we can contribute as well as what are the broader broader charter for security where do we get plugged in how do we contribute how do we collaborate with the broader ecosystem, or how do we float new security projects does it come out through here, like incubating project, you know those kinds of things. Got it. So, you know, let me let me sort of start with some of the knows. So, in terms of, you know, building actual projects. We have many of, you know, active participants from projects but you know this SIG is, you know, a consortium of subject matter experts that supports the actions and activities of the to see.  But, you know, there's no expectation that I would say that this is going to be a source for, oh, okay, we need to go build this thing, you know, start writing code. It's much more a form of subject matter experts.  Actually, they're, they're two of them. There's the security assessments and there's, you know, run a business. So Matthew's been, you know, very graciously acting as facilitator.  So if you'd like to, you know, take up some of the, you know, that work, there's, there's that as, you know, kind of an immediate activity.  So, you know, that's an opportunity. But, you know, as with most other open source activities, no one's really going to tell you what to do. So if there's an opportunity that you see to support these efforts or to connect the efforts that are, you know, going on in other forums and, you know, you want to identify that as, you know, something that you're doing on behalf of the group, then, you know, I invite you to bring it to the forum and, you know, I'm fairly certain that, you know, it's under the, you know, overall governance and guidance of what we set forth as what we do here at SIG Security, then, you know, I would expect us to support that. That's perfect. Great. Thanks a lot, Dan. I really appreciate that. Okay. Are there any topics anyone else would like to bring up? May I quickly introduce myself since I have, I've been lurking on your call today. Yes, so this is Paul Howard. I work for ARM, I'm a Solutions Architect, and I'm working on a project that's collaborative across ARM and Docker and some other organizations that we are looking to, we're looking to make presentation to the TOC at some point for sandbox adoption. The thing with the project is parsec, and I'm basically looking, it's a security focus project, so I think it would be of interest to the security SIG. And I guess what I'm looking for is, because we're expecting to put a presentation together for the SIG at some point, I'm looking for examples of good practice. I'm just going to switch on the call today on the off chance that there might be a presentation. Of course, I haven't checked the agenda, so I guess that there are no presentations today. Gavi, you record your calls and put them on YouTube. Is that correct? That's correct. Can you advise me on that? Google and just CNCF YouTube. It's one top level YouTube page for all CNCF SIG presentations, and they just get uploaded automatically about a day or two later after the meeting concludes. Okay. We had a presentation just last week. While you continue, I'll go find a link and paste it in the group chat. To be honest, I was kind of done. I don't want to, I don't want to talk at length about the project at the moment. We haven't put our TOC proposal together yet, but we are, we're marshalling our forces to do that and getting all of the information and all of the collateral together to make a presentation and to follow the documented process for getting it for the TOC's attention. We'll be following the documented process in due course. For now, I'm really just trying to get a feel for, you know, examples of good practice or any bits of advice in terms of making good representation for the project. Yeah, that's it really. It's good to meet you all as well. Thank you. There's two completed assessments, one for in TOTA, in TOTO and one for open policy agent. If you take a look at those assessments, they also give you an idea of what like the completed process looks like. So that that may be a reasonable place and you'll also find template documents and things like that. When you're ready to start that part of the process. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's that's great. That's that's that gives me some things to go off and look at. That's brilliant. Thank you. No, I didn't want to take up any more of your time in this meeting, but I didn't want to, I didn't want to lurk on your call and not introduce myself. So, thank you. Just following up on the heels of that one I'm just going to quickly do a screen share here to confirm with Justin if I have the correct link here just so I can provide it for visibility slash tracking. So, is this the correct one, Justin and the links here are these the links to the assessment itself or should I be looking elsewhere to find the formal document. Yeah, you'll find the, there's a directory somewhere that has this I think they're linked off here to. But the closed issues should have the assessments for them but there's also somewhere under their assessments projects. There we go. There you go. And then there's spiffy spire documents there too. So I'd recommend taking a look at at those. I placed those in the chat just want to make sure I'm not sending people on the world use chase. Okay. Anyone else that like to take the mic. Okay, so I give about 10 seconds of cricket says we're all done. All right, that being said that wraps up today's meeting hope everyone stays in good health and good spirits and hope to see you all next week. Thank you.


Got it My name is Boyd and I'm an engineer or as my oldest daughter puts it I am a nerd I've built I've built things ranging from highly-scaled applications and the data centers they run into they run in to Complex developer systems that span the world to full-on operating systems And I am not gonna bang on about those things because you can look it up Instead I want to talk about What are the first principles that I operate on and that I try to do my projects in a little bit about what I'm working on here? And then a little on how we can work together So let's start with first principles The first one is build for the future Every single project where I've purposefully tried to make predictions about world where the world is going in the time Frame and how long I think it's gonna take me to build whatever it is. I'm doing it always works So in other words if you start a project and it's gonna take you two years to do it Don't build something that would be competitive and interesting and relevant now when you start it Build something that's gonna be competitive and interesting and relevant when you finish it Right and this means taking some measurements. Let's say you're doing an energy system Look at the trends and predict. What's the cost of energy gonna be in two years if you're thinking computer systems Well, what's the cost of chips going to be in two years if you're thinking networking? What's the cost of data gonna be in two years and that it changes your designs and you end up starting something that wouldn't be competitive right now, but you're ahead of everyone else when you get there number two really important Before you start building stuff and every engineer gets super excited about things Engines are cool, and I don't care if it's a mechanical one or a virtual one You can't start working until you know what problem you're solving and this is hard You've got your big problem for your enterprise or whatever Then each feature each product each feature in the product They've all got to have a problem that you hold in your head as you write it and as you build for it You know when I advise companies and I go in and I say hey, let's talk about your tech I always start by just asking questions until I know what problem they're solving and usually They learn what problem they're solving in the process and by the end they realize Oh, I need maybe 50% or 25% of the tech. I actually thought I needed So understand the problem you're solving before you finish and even before you even start building your solutions next Every solution you do also creates problems Every single one You have to know what they are you have to account for them and the goal is That the problems you create are smaller than the problems you solve right My favorite example from this week has actually been what Samantha was describing with little yellow bird She's got a clothing company and she's making uniforms and she's doing stuff with fabric and she went and Calculated well, how much carbon am I doing by sourcing from this place? What's the damage? I'm doing by getting my dying done in that way, right? She's thinking about her external costs that aren't immediately relative You know, they're not the same as the problem she's solving for her customers But they matter in the equation in this part's a little bit of a challenge on the other hand I haven't heard a single person who's representing blockchain talk about their costs. I Haven't heard anyone talk about the carbon load I haven't heard any discussion of if I take an action with a blockchain that causes a ripple effect of other actions What are those and which are the ones I'm using and which are the ones I can avoid? that math matters as I figure out if my solutions are overall Creating bigger or smaller problems than the ones I'm trying to solve all right, I Also spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about culture There's cultures that we're born into there's cultures that we join and in the corporate world There's cultures we get to create and those are kind of fun Right. There's how often do you get to build a culture that lives beyond you or your time at a place? I like to think that culture is your exit strategy now the point of a culture is that it embodies and it reinforces those other first principles Right and the rituals that you build in your culture the annual performance review the daily stand-up meeting How did they relate to your first principles? Are you talking about your external costs?  Builds momentum within your organization whether or not you're there and keeps things going in the right way So these are my main four first principles and there's more, but only a five minutes So what am I doing here? This is my new company. It's Crichton Industries spent a lot of time thinking about the name Crichton and we can have a discussion about that It's certainly nerdy and that's kind of on purpose Right Scott what one and zero that kind of indicates binary all that stuff but as I was thinking about what impact can I have and what's the biggest problem I can solve with just who I am It's well, it's all your problems and what are the platforms I can build that helps everyone else? Solve the problems they're trying to solve and not everybody you have to pick and choose you can't solve every problem So if you're building a system that assumes there's a device Whether it's on a solar panel or it's on a tree tracking rodents or it's up in space If you're building devices where there isn't the human nearby to reboot it and handle errors and all that that's the space I'm interested in so and kind of techno speak. I'm building an operating system aimed at IOT devices and What I'm trying to solve is error recovery What happens when software things go bad? How fast can you recover? How can you keep critical systems running while say if the sensor is rebooting itself? How do you keep going and layer in a put a bunch of security in at the same time and it's a way deeper discussion than just a minute Okay, last thing is how do we work together? I'm exploring my new relationship with New Zealand and this is how you reach me and I'd love to talk


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from the popular web series, Red vs. Blue. And I'm Simmons from that same show. Today we're gonna be doing a special PSA about acting. Buckle up, man. Top brass is putting on a master class. Now Red vs. Blue has always set the highest bar for quality voice talent, hiring consummate professionals for every role, no matter how small. But let's say, I pose theoretically, you didn't hire professional voice artists for your web series.  Like literally, who was ever around?   Amateur voice actors are the worst. Your friends likely have all the emotional depth of cheap copy paper. Worry not, my friend. Reinforcements are on the way. Here is the Red vs. Blue guide to working with amateur voice actors. There are many schools of acting in the universe. The Meissner Techniques, Lee Strasberg's method, Stanislavsky's system. For amateur actors, however, we recommend you use helmet filters. You say tomato, I say tomato, but it all sounds the same through a broken walkie-talkie. With a good helmet filter, much or most of your dialogue will be incomprehensible. This will work in your favor because if viewers don't know what you said, they also won't know you've said it wrong. Michael, I'll keep the crash door open. It's fine. You always argue me about the crash door. I don't even understand. Why would you want me to get a cat? Ha, ha! That was probably very funny. Now, real actors will tell you that their craft is all about making choices. The obvious choice is to err on the side of over-the-top cartoonish performances full of flair and exaggeration. This incompetent approach is utter hogwash. The only thing worse is a voice actor who makes no choices and just uses their normal voice without any changes. You know, Simmons, you do such a great job of masking your actual accent. Sometimes I forget what your real voice even sounds like. Thank you, sir. The voice I use for my character Simmons is a careful mask. My native accent is a result of growing up in Scotland and West Texas. Here's what I actually sound like when the microphones are off. Boy, howdy, ya wheel-ass. My hovercraft's lippin' for wheels, y'all. Ah, forget about it. So natural. Just goes to show that voice acting is all about subtlety. The art of understatement. Less is more. But if you want nuance from your amigos, well, too bad. The emotionless reptiles you call friends are as subtle as a category five hurricane.  Here to talk about the delicate intricacies of volume is our resident expert, Kaboom- Hello! They're best friends. They're secrets! Here's a quick warm-up exercise. Many amateur actors get hung up on pronunciation, but repetition of a difficult phrase will help them get into the right headspace. Watch as we demonstrate how professionals handle this simple warm-up. Repeat after me, Simmons. Pad kid, port, curd, pulled cod. Pad kid, port, curd, pulled cod. Double time. Pad kid, port, curd, pulled cod. Pad kid, port, curd, pulled cod. Pad kid, port, curd, pulled cod. Forward and backwards. Pad kid, port, curd, pulled cod. Pad kid, port, pulled cod. Pad kid, port, curd, pulled cod. Nailed it, Simmons! But thank you, sir, not a single mistake. What's the time to record? There are several things to keep in mind. A trained actor, like myself, will carefully study a script for days on end in order to understand the deeper context and hidden meanings within a script. This deep reading of a screenplay is critical for an actor to understand their character and the context of each word in the dialogue. However, the dumb apes you ask to grunt out your masterpiece won't read that script until the very moment they're speaking the words into a microphone. So, as a director, you'll have to break things down for them. Oh, it's you! I've been waiting a long time for this. Actually, in this scene, your character is confronting the person who murdered their wife. Confused now? Can you break that down for me? You want revenge. So, right, why don't you just give me a line reading there, Mr. James Cameron?  Does anyone have an adult diaper lying around? I've had a bit of an accident in here. I'll have to record Doc's lines later. Oh, what a mess! Whoever wrote these wonderful lines deserve one million. Wait a minute, I'm not gonna read that.   How about them apples? You might not be able to prepare your actors as much as you'd like. However, digital technology means you can ask them to do as many takes as you need to get the perfect one. Ah, my balls! Let's do one more take. Nah, it's okay, I'm good. Okay, finally, if you assume that your amateur actors will be low maintenance and easy to work with, you're in for a rude awakening. In reality, it's quite the opposite, especially if they think they're naturally funnier than your script.    Nailed it. Get them up, dirtbag! Hands them up, hands a-pangy! I'm just gonna keep going for a minute. Hey, get your hands down! Just get in the top of the day, put them up, up and away! Stop up and away! Spare them away! Miyazaki, damn Simmons, this is cold! You getting all this? I threw in an anime reference.  I am really feeling this. I'd like to do one or two hundred more takes. I'm gonna go take lunch.   Baby, hands up! Baby, hit me one more time! Finally, a few parting thoughts before we leave you today. In your war against amateur voice talent, you're gonna want to choose your battles and prepare to lose them all. Stanislavski taught his students that acting is reacting. The most important thing a performer can do is really listen to their scene partner. Right, Sarge? Absolutely, Lopez. By listening, you can riff off your scene partner's energy and emotions. This will help dialogue feel free-flowing and natural. It can even reach a point where you and your scene partner start automatically finishing each other's. Actors are like weapons. They'll have different ranges. Christian Bale is an intercontinental ballistic missile. On the other hand, your friend who works at GameStop does not have the range to play a ruthless, space mercenary. Maybe cast your friend as Donut's evil clone instead. Evil Donut. Couldn't agree more. If another friend changes their character's voice over time, best just ignore it. Consistency, consumistency is what I always say. And if you think hitting it big and becoming a highly successful series will encourage your friends to, say, take some acting classes, don't hold your breath. They won't! They will just keep dialing it in forever and ever and ever. When's lunch? Our final piece of advice is that you should do everything within your power to avoid the situation all together and only hire professional. Professionals like us! Ha ha! Wow. We really did this wrong.  Got that backwards. Oh my God. Lestate, Stasper's method and the Stal- Stannis Lobosky?  I didn't write this.  You got something in there. You can make it work, I'm sure. No, no, no. But what's he saying? Like we have to start the camera on the line that I'm most perplexed about. I can't. Also. Scottish Texan accent.  Have you ever eaten a blackberry before? Yeah. Has anyone ever eaten a blackberry before? I made a protein shake using blackberries. Don't ever do that. However those dumb apes you have to voice your masterpiece probably won't read the script until the very moment they're speaking the words into a microphone. Hey! Pat kid, pork curd, pool cod. Pat kid, pork pool cod. Pat kid, pork pool cod. That's what I messed up. For the record, I've been shouting here for like the past three hours and now I can't talk. Hello! Everybody in the building's like, yeah, no, we heard you. We all heard every word that you said. They certainly won't. They'll just keep phoning it in forever and ever. And never. And never. When's the check coming? I gotta get out of here. This is the first time in like 15 years anyone's ever recorded me doing this and it's the worst I've ever done. Thanks for checking out that episode of RVB. You can find the playlist to watch more below or you can go to roostatif.com to check out the latest RT shows. Also, don't forget to like, subscribe and hit that bell or leave a comment.


Hi, my name's Scott. I'm an August tester and today I'm going to be giving you my first thoughts on the Xbox Series S So as a foster dad, we've got children who have a wide variety of ages. So we've got a one-year-old And then all the way up to our children up to a 17-year-old first off straight out the box comes off as a Really sleek looking box set up simple and it's plug-and-play. So there's a power cable a HDMI cable Plug those straight into your telly and and then set up my fight So the Xbox Series S was so lightweight and portable. We were able to take it with us on holiday during Visits around the year Scottish Highland really simple My nine-year-old knows how to set it up. The controller is sits inside of your hand rather than being held It's very tactile. It's just one of those sleek easy-to-use controller a big benefit of having an old digital console is Ensuring that you don't lose discs You don't lose them because obviously everything is all pre-loaded the quality of the graphics that the console gives is really nice Everything's really smooth as well. It's next-gen model. The show is a really clean image And there's no stuttering or anything else like that in game back Just doesn't seem to be slowed down by any of the games that we've played so far. The game pass is Fantastic about you for money the game pass gives the kids access to I think it's over 300 games That they're able to pick and choose exactly what they want I think if you have an Xbox Series S having a game pass is a must the Xbox family app Is an app that's designed to allow you to work alongside your children Giving them access to only what you feel is appropriate towards them is fantastic It means that they can have all of these different games and have their own log-ins and have access to only one They're actually able to to use themselves just the fact of being able to have a next-gen console at a more affordable price The Xbox Series S is now available at Argos


Rwanda has been pushing an incredibly ambitious but so far incredibly successful digital transformation program. A key component of the technologies which they've talked about has been blockchain. So as blockchain engineering company, I think Rwanda is an economy which already has the government support to be able to actually implement the technology and that makes it very interesting from a speed of implementation perspective. We've been incredibly eliminating to talk to some of the leading figures here. So today we had a really good introductory conversation with the Minister of Environmental Affairs and yeah, from that dialogue and from that debate you start to learn about what are the issues which are facing Rwanda because whilst our technology is general and can be built to many different industries and many different applications you have to start by understanding what the problems are here. So we've been speaking to many many different people both in the private sector and government to try to understand what problems we should be solving and I think we've got some good ideas. In much the same way that Ethiopia is an incredibly interesting country for any technology service provider because of the potential to deploy all technology at huge scale, 100 million people. Equally Rwanda is a very interesting country because of the ability to to run trial projects at a smaller scale. Rwanda has a population of 10 million people, an incredibly progressive technology interested government. It makes it very interesting as a place where we can look to run trial projects in a contained project space.


Actually I'm gonna pour ourselves a drink. I'm gonna, I'm gonna head up beer gang. Now it's been a while since I tasted this beer. I don't know the flavor. I just had one of these guys that was different. I brought three different styles. This is local brewery. I think they're local only. They could be from Alberta as well. Where are they from? I don't know where they're from actually. I think they're BC. So local, we got a lot, like a lot of places, a lot of local amazing beers out there. So we're gonna crack this open. We're gonna have beer and cigars because beer goes pretty good with cigars. But I'm more on the spirit front, but we are in Canada today sort of celebration, right? Chicha wasn't hanging. Pretty good. Pretty good. Doing well, brother. Doing well. And this is Hoin Brewing Company. Hoin Pilsner. Okay. For any beer loving people out there. Voit Quebec Day was about a week ago. People went crazy. I bet. I bet Quebec party hard. And I put the glass in the freezer. Frosted glass. And happy 4th of July coming up two days from now. I try not to put too much head on my pores. Looking good, looking good. Looking good, looking good. Mark Barciccio. Life is beautiful, my friend. Enjoy it. Nice. Awesome. Felix, what were you doing? Not a big lager. Pilsner friend, personally. Salute gang. For summer, I love the crispiness of it. I did grab a darker beer as well, but right now I feel like a lighter sharpness. A much more of an ale person, ale is delicious. Friends call me an old man because of it says I'm only 18 and it's my favorite drink. Nice, nice. There's some amazing, like what do you call it? I haven't had it for a while. Kilkenny. I love Kilkenny. Irish beer. Kilkenny... Oh man, I forgot me. That was used to be something I drank all the time. Gang, we're gonna go Bolivar Bellacosofinos. What a poor Voit says. Mark Barciccio. Yes, this Monday will be the 4th. My man, Independence Day. Independence Day. Here's to... Here's to Independence Day gang.  Smell that deliciousness. Bolivar Bellacosofinos. An amazing smoke. An amazing smoke. Been a while since I had one. First time chat. Harlow Quinn. Harlow Quinn. I got really drunk once and killed someone named Kilkenny. Does that kill? No. Hilarious. Who amongst us hasn't committed an alcohol-fueled murder at least once, right? Well, alcohol feels stupidity, I would say. This is beautiful. Strong smoke gang. Strong smoke. Voit, I'm still at the point where I buy highest beer percent rather than beer. $5 for the big point one. I went through that beard for a while, man. I'm gonna give it a nice cut. We want a good draw on this. We want a good draw on this. Okay. Nice. Very nice. Tastes like a mortal. I've been there, brother. As you get older, you get finer. As you get older, you get finer.  Nice celebrating by seeing a live, live jungle show with my friends. Nice. Nice way to finish my education. A fourth done or just the year? Torchlighter. I don't need to cover this. Sometimes you gotta do that. Harlow Quinn. Remember, moth liquor like St. Ide's and Crazy Horse. Moth liquor, yeah, yeah. Moth liquor's heavy. Strong, strong. Cheryl, how are you doing? Salute, salute. Drinking Pilsner. Local brewery. Very nice. Very nice. We've got a lot of nice local breweries here. This is the brand, by the way, Cheryl. Forloko Ira. Before it got banned in Canada. Forloko Ira. I don't know that. Sven, how are you doing? Salute, salute. Felix, you show. I'm in the UK, so our college system is different than over in Canada. We only have two years. Wow. And I just finished a second officially out of the formal education system. Nice. Congrats, congrats. Congrats, congrats. I also want to pick up a bottle of these guys. Tequila. I'm gonna pour myself a little tequila as well. I don't mind. I like having beer and a spirit on the side. Sometimes you need a little, not volume, just a taste, right? And I'm gonna have it on the rock. Salute again. And I let the ice melt, cool it down. I know a lot of people say sort of certain spirits, more higher end. You shouldn't have it neat, not with on the rocks, but haraquan. There used to be something called Cisco.  Now I only drink whiskey for the taste and hardly anything else otherwise. Yeah, whiskey's nice. With whiskey you gotta be careful, man. Whiskey goes dark, fast, right? So whiskey and bourbon, fantastic, by the way, whiskey and bourbon, fantastic with the smoke, fantastic with the smoke, right? But with all alcohols really, you gotta be careful, but certain alcohols tend to go lighter if you cross the line. Certain alcohols tend to go dark when you cross the line. The, in general from my experience, the darker, the more impurities in a liquor, the darker, the darker it goes. Okay, same with cognac. Elder God, how are you doing? Welcome, welcome. So, Simtron 2000, yeah, beer and tequila, Cipriga area, nice. Beer and tequila go fantastic. Elder God, a rarity for me, having a pilsner and a frosted glass. Super delicious, local brewery, very delicious, crispy. And Elder God, by the way, I'm not promoting these guys, I haven't been paid, I'm just letting people know what I'm consuming.  This is what I'm drinking, Elder God, okay? I believe they're B.C., local brewery, if not B.C., Alberta, but I think it's B.C. On charter days, how are you doing? Ichichou and Chad, hope you are having a good weekend indeed. Void says tequila gets me energetic. Hennessy sits me down, yeah, for sure. Cognac and brandy is chilling. Tequila, vodka, gin, more energetic.  Nice, yummy, yummy, yummy. Strong bow, Elder God, Saturday starts shortly, haha, nice. Cider, Elder God, Cider, peanut butter pumpkin party. Hello, hello, Deep Flake, how are you doing? Whoa, hello there. Hope you're doing well. Mark Parciccio, you're not selling out. Oh, thank heaven, no, no. And it's okay to advertise, as long as you really believe in the product, right? Like, I was, when I worked on a Cuban cigar store, I was an amazing salesman. I've been an amazing salesman for things that I love consuming. So I was an amazing salesman for Cuban cigars, because it's something that I really, really enjoy, right? So for me, it comes from, it was coming from the heart, right? But yeah, I doubt it if, you know, if they put a gun to my hand and say, sell the product, otherwise we blow your head off, then yeah, I'll do it. But yeah, we're not going there. First time chat, Cali, dehumanization. Where in Canada do you live? West Coast, West Coast, West Coast, Salute Gang. Oh yeah, snack wise, we picked up some local strawberries that are out right now. So good right now, so good, crazy good right now. You need a little bit of snack, with a little bit of a drink and a little bit of a smoke, right? Very good strawberries right now. Super delicious. Let's grab it by the scuff of the green. Very good. Tangy and a little bit of sweetness. I spend beer and weed only here.  Alcohol is disgusting, depends on the spirit. What do you mean spirit though? Because beer is alcohol too, so spirit. Yeti punk, I can't drink anymore because of my health issues, but it's always 420, but it's a great day for cold ones, jealous haha. Yeah, I've reduced my drinking a lot. I know I've got a lot of friends that didn't reduce their drinking and now they can't drink at all. At some point I'm going to reach that as well. I probably won't be able to drink or won't want to drink, but we'll enjoy it while we can. Hong Kong, thank you for the follow Cali. Sven says tequila is the worst of the worst. Sworn 10 years ago, never again. I find with the sipping is fantastic, sipping is fantastic, but agree, tequila can go dark fast, but whiskey is super dark. Whisky? Felix Chichot, I was at a friend's birthday last week, did multiple shots of a 63% rum. Won't get into the details of what happened, but I was hungover until the later afternoon. No kidding, nastiness, nastiness. And rum has a nasty hangover as well, by the way. High sugar. First time chat, seriously, squirrel. I don't drink often, except on Vekessi? Vakai? What does that word mean? Vakai? Sven says it's just inferior and destructive in every way. Oh, I don't know. There's high-end tequila. It's fantastic. It's got to have guave. Was it guave they make it from? It's got to be straight up agave. I will say guave. Agave. 100% agave. You want agave. Hopefully this one is. Sometimes it's fake agave or something like this, but this is more of a high-end, so it should be good. That's what you're looking for. You don't want the fake tequila. It's got to be 100% agave. And that's high-end. High-end tequila is just as good as high-end whiskey, high-end vodka, high-end cognac. Really, you can go seriously high-end tequila. So Sven continues, feels bad and have bad effects mainly. Yeah, that's the fake tequila. You know those tequilas they walk around in bars and they give you tequila shots? Don't drink those. You see a pretty lady or a pretty dude walking around? Tequila, tequila. They got the lemon, the salt and the rock tequila shots.  Yeah, yeah, don't drink that. Not good.  That's gonna turn into a bad time. Short, good time, long, bad time, right? Void hook, chat, pop it off. Lovely. I love mods. Nice, nice. Cali, have you ever been to Salt Spring Island and if so, how do you like it? You know what? Crazy. I've been to a few of the other islands, right? For vacation. I had to do work because I was doing geophysics work. I have never been to Salt Spring Island. I plan on going this summer by the way.  I have a lot of friends that have been to Salt Spring Island. I've been invited to parties in Salt Spring Island but I've never gone. It's weird. It's like, you know, a friend you've had for a long time that you've never been to their house. It's like, I haven't been there. Thank you very much for the follow. Brief case wanker. Brief case wanker. How are you? Funny, funny. Sven, we Hungarians, we drink snaps over 50, 60% of all the 52 in the, is the weakest spirit. 52 is the weakest spirit. Aye, aye, aye. Clark Bark, I'm proudly sober folks but no judging indeed. Salut, salut. Salut to all of our sober friends and all of those friends that pushed a little too far and can't drink anymore. I know, I have some. And some of our friends that never made it to this day. And I know a few very dear friends and to all of those that can't be here with us, salut to them. Okay. Sven says, spirit should be made out of fruits, not barley and cactus. I don't know. Cactus, good tequila is a very good tequila, right? Berries, sure. And potatoes. Potato vodka is fantastic, right? So it depends. Raisin vodka, powerful. Seriously squirrel, vacation, vacation, deep flake. We need a full series of how to relax by Gino. I'd watch the hell out of that. This guy is a pro. Look, you play hard, you better have a means to chill hard, right? Really. Nope, there goes one of our kitty cats. That one's Sal. He's got a tough squirrel in here. And he loves going and chilling. See that, the green there? It's the grape leaves coming in. So the grape leaves have provided a little shade for him. He loves going inside the grape leaves and just chilling there. Fantastic. I'm going to allow the grape. This is all grape. By the way, here, let me show you a grape canopy I'm sitting on there right now. Right? I'm going to show you a grape canopy gang. Sorry if I'm not catching the chat. Watch this. I'm going to move the camera up and I'll bring it back down again. Right? So our grape canopy is this. This is what I'm sitting under right now. See the string up here? That, right? So that's tied up to all the sides of the, right? And that's holding it up and slowly the canopy, the grape, you know, builds its own sort of structure. Right? It sort of builds its own structure. Grape leaves, grape vines are very strong. Very strong. Right? So that's what I'm sitting under right now. That's why you see the little sunshine coming in. And there's lots of grapes here, by the way, growing. So we're going to harvest this stuff. But when it comes to the patio that I built there, I'm going to, there's grapes coming all the way there. I'm going to allow the grapes to encompass it. So it's going to create a little shelter for the kitty cats. It should be nice.  Right? See the bottom here? So when you get this type of thing going on, let's see if you see, if you got a little, this type of thing going on, I'm just going to burn off this end. Do this on camera. It's not working here. There we go. So it's just going to burn off. That's the wrapper. So it'll go even. Okay. Felix, Chicho, I only drink on days that end in Y. Saturday, Sunday, Friday, Monday. Oh my God, it's all of them. Yeti punk. Chicho, I can't hang around too long today, spending time with the, with the family, with the family. But it's finally nice to catch the lives since I'm always missing them. Awesome. Nice to have you Yeti. And I hope you have a fantastic time with the family. Really, that's where it's at. If you can spend time with the family, enjoying food, drink, conversation, love, laughter, even discussion, hardcore. Right? Fantastic. Free poison, all the gods says. Lark bark. I need a vacation. Seriously, squirrel. Bar is passing, passing quote, open till 4am instead of regular 2am closure here in the US. Nice. That's good. That's what they should be. You should go only to 6am. First time chat. Brief, briefcase wanker. Lots of love right back, brother. And thank you for the follow. Lark bark, Chicho. Bless your heart, buddy. I salute your brother. Thank you, Lark bark. Squirrely squirrel. Thanks, Chicho. Taking a break from the spirits. Awesome. Felix, Chicho. I drink a lot at the moment since I'm 18 and just finished college, but I'm sensible about it and know my limits. My dad went through a dark period of alcoholism and that taught me a lot about controlling your intake. Indeed, if you can control your addictions, your tendencies towards substances or whatever it is, desires of addiction, you've, congratulations. You're now a man or a woman or a free thinking human being, independent. You control your own destiny, right? You're not a little fluff of dust flowing by the wind.  I love your patio. I wish I had one. When we're looking, we're intentionally looking for a patio because I love nature. I love creating a space where you can just go and just, right? Plant canopy. Plant canopy. Elder God says, greetings, Dr. P. How are you doing? I hope you're doing well. Cheryl, I always laugh when someone gets that the first time. Which one is that sound? And gang, do not forget. Do not forget. One of bucket lists for me. Bucket list for me. If I ever get the opportunity, I would say my life was grand.  For me, it would be on my top, on my top, top, top list. I don't care personally if he's an A-hole, if he's a nice guy. I just respect what this guy has done, which is, top of my list, would be Julian Assange, right? So gang, free Assange, free Assange, free Assange. Julian Assange is a publisher and journalist that has been crucified for trying to bring transparency and accountability of capitalist power to humanity, to me and you, right? Something that we desperately need in our societies. For more information, see wikilees.org, defend.wikilees.org, or for an introduction, check out our playlist on SensorTube and this, this gang, salute to one of the most important freedom fighters that we have. We lost our hash. Good time. Svensson, don't get me wrong. I had my fair share from alcohols. All of my grandparents were alcoholics. Even I almost fell into it a few times. I just stick with me. Ganja, cannabis, cannabis, killed zero. Alcohol killed what? Hundreds upon hundreds of millions? Which one's safer? Drabo, thank you very much for the follow. On charter days, when do you plan to do a liqueur stream? When I'm in the mood, I guess. On charter days. Right now, I'm sort of just, this, this was the last week where I had students. So I'm doing a little breather, right? I was so busy. The house is a mess. I got to go through cleaning. So the liqueur cabinet is a little messy. So we're either going to spend time to clean up the liqueur cabinet, or I'm going to clean it up, bring it out here, which is most likely what we're going to do. And we're going to do liqueur sampling, making, drinking, smoking, and do this book with liqueurs. Right now, this is sort of finishing off a very busy school year. Very busy school year.


As the USS Greenbin made port in Okinawa, Marines from the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit prepared to board the ship for a patrol across the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. The objective of this patrol is to increase combat readiness and enhance partnerships with allies in the region through exercises and training. I've been exercising with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit for the last 16 years. This is my fourth tour serving out of Sasebo, Japan on amphibious ships. It is something that I hold very near and dear to my heart. It's something I'm used to, but it's also something that I still find incredibly exciting. This drive runs down the ranks to the most junior Marines and sailors on ship. I'm pretty excited about working with Navy counterparts, being on board on a flight deck with flight operations going on all around me. Reporting from White Beach Naval Facility, I'm Marine Corporal Marcella Diaz de León.


Hi, everyone. Happy New Year. Joe for jasphyscasebreaks.com coming at you on a Tuesday with a quick little random number block randomizer For these following teams right here pelicans heat nicks bulls calves maves and pistons That's how the number block works. If you're new to it check out our frequently asked questions section as well for all the details Big thanks to these folks for getting into it. We'll assign you a number. Let's roll it. Let's randomize it a Full 12 times six and a six for num names and numbers one to three 11 and 12th and final time after 12 we got Robert down to Robert everyone else in between and 6 and 6 12 times for the numbers one 11 and good luck 12th and final time after 12. We got two down to zero. I remember zero gets any and all redemptions including one-of-one redemptions Go with a sans serif font For January there we go All right, so Robert two three and one mark with five Robert with eight Kevin with four Josh with seven Last spot mojo star next to his name mark with nine zoom in with six and Robert with zero now Robert Usually I'd say you'll get any in all redemptions including one-of-run the redemptions, but you also have one So one would still get live one of ones, but it doesn't matter Robert Wolf has got his faces covered Let's sort this by column B and coming up in a separate video will be the break itself So look out for that Jaspie's caseworks.com