Man finds old buried chain, his gut then tells him to keep pulling. It seemed like a normal day when Mike took out his metal detector to see what he can find. He let his mind wander while he absentmindedly swept the area as he walked. Suddenly the machine started to beep furiously. Jolted back into the moment, Mike could feel the adrenaline pumping through him as his excitement mounted. What had he just found? The answer to that sent him running to call the police. It was a rainy day like any other when Mike headed outside. While pursuing his hobby, he had become accustomed to being outside in all kinds of weather, including grey and rainy weather, so it didn't bother him in the least. He enjoyed swinging his metal detector back and forth as he walked, never knowing what he might find. It was a calming peaceful experience. This time is no different, that is until his metal detector started screeching. Everyone gets excited by the idea of finding buried treasure, especially children. There are any number of children's games that involve trying to find something hidden. Who doesn't love playing hide and seek, or going on Easter egg hunts? There is a special kind of thrill in finding something hidden after spending so much time trying to find it. This kind of thrill is part of why Mike enjoyed his hobby so much. Though he never would have expected what he was about to find. The thrill of finding something that has long been buried under the ground and forgotten. You never know what you might find. This was the situation Mike was about to find himself in on this rainy day. Mike felt his heart start racing as his metal detector started to beep. What had just found. An old coin. A simple metal can. Not in his wildest dreams would Mike have guessed what he had just stumbled across. Mike has always been somewhat of a history buff. That is why the thought of what he found that day is something that excites him to this day. The idea of unearthing something that had been buried for so long was unthinkable. Out of everything that he has ever discovered, this particular discovery will always be his favorite. As a lover of history, Mike never imagined he would ever find such an amazing historical object. Generally, it's not uncommon to find people shopping, reading, playing games, or watching TV in their spare time. Some people have more uncommon hobbies such as painting, the theater, or fishing. Mike had an even more unique hobby. Mike is a detectorist. That's the name for people like Mike who like to search for objects with a metal detector. He spends days on beaches or in fields just looking to see what he might find. Mike doesn't often find anything very big or terribly important. However, the hobby is an addictive one that keeps Mike coming back again and again. Mike searches areas that he thinks have a relatively high chance of success. As much as he has to deal with let downs and not finding anything. Sometimes though he gets lucky and all his hard work pays off in the end. Nothing else has ever paid off as much as this day would, however. Not many people are willing to brave the elements the way that Mike has to on occasion. Mike is outside in everything from sunshine to rain and snow to pursue his hobby. This is the nature of the hobby. The weather in Pembrokeshire, in the United Kingdom where Mike lives is often very rainy and wet. This means that much of his time is spent in the cold and wet while he searches for lost treasures. Not only do detectorists have to brave all kinds of terrain and weather, they also have to deal with a lot of disappointment as they rarely find anything of value. Often they merely find junk or trash. Mike hadn't had much luck in the area. The old pennies that he often dug up were naturally not of much value. However, Mike's luck was about to change and in a very big way. This would be a day to remember. Mike had a field that he liked to take his metal detector to. He enjoyed searching that field often but today he would not be able to scour his favorite field but he didn't know that yet. There had been a steady downpour that week. When Mike reached his favorite field he was disappointed to discover that it was completely waterlogged. He would need to make a different plan. Mike had to go to a different field and eventually chose a new one at random. He had a strange inexplicable feeling that today was going to be special. He had no idea that something lay out there in that field just waiting to be found. Mike geared up and headed out into the field. He started his usual search pattern, his metal detector waving back and forth as he trudged through the rain and mud unaware of what awaited him. As Mike walked through this new field he was excited to see what the day would hold. He had no idea that this would be his lucky day. Maybe he would find an interesting old coin or something similar. However, this field would not only have something to offer but it would be the biggest and most important find Mike had ever made. This field held an ancient secret and decided that today it would reveal what it was hiding. Mike had been waving his detector in a wide arc as usual with no luck. Suddenly he heard the telltale beep start to come from it. Something was nearby. All he had to do now was to pinpoint it. He started to walk around to narrow down the location of the object. The beeping wouldn't stop, however. This wasn't making any sense. How could he not be narrowing down the location of this object? Mike was very confused. How was it possible that he couldn't isolate the source? It simply made no sense. After a while he could only assume that his gear wasn't working properly. That had to be the only solution. Even though his gear wasn't working properly, Mike was determined not to give up. There was something nagging at his thoughts. Something kept urging him to keep on searching. Despite the weather and his faulty equipment he pushed on. What's this? The only other thing that it could mean was that there was something very big underneath him. That seemed highly unlikely but Mike needed to know the truth. What was going on? His curiosity finally got the better of him and he wasn't about to give up on what might be the biggest day of his life. Little did he know how right he was. It would be a day he'd never forget. Mike had no choice but to start digging, after all, he couldn't ignore that there was a chance that something incredible beneath the ground. He began to dig in the spot he chose with no idea what to expect. Ideas started running through his mind and he couldn't shake the feeling that something big was about to happen to him. He began imagining all kinds of things as he kept digging deeper and deeper. What lay below him? He wondered. He had to abandon the piece of equipment, pull out a trowel, and then start to dig. The wet dirt did not stand a chance, and he soon found a round chunk of metal in the soil. He couldn't imagine what this metal object could be. He kept digging to try and clear it out so that he could see just what he had found. He used his hands to dig through it until he got a solid grip on it. He couldn't wait to see just what he had found. Could it be something interesting? He then tried to pull it out with all the might he could muster but despite his best efforts it wouldn't budge. What could possibly be buried here? This rusty piece of metal just would not move no matter how much he tried to pull it out. Again and again, he tried but with no luck. Refusing to give up, however, Mike continued to try before stopping to reconsider his options. Mike decided he would have better luck if he dug around this mystery object. As he started to clear the soil around the metal thing, he learned that it was actually connected to something else. What could it be? What was so heavy underneath this soil that he couldn't move it even one inch, no matter how much he tried to? He couldn't stop now. He kept digging and then uncovered another link, and then a third one. The more he uncovered the more perplexed Mike became at the site that was unfolding before him. When the realization dawned upon him, he felt a chill run through his body. He was filled with a mixture of shock, excitement, and confusion as he looked down. He couldn't believe what he was looking at. He had stumbled into a strange object that much was clear. It came with iron links that did not seem to end. He couldn't imagine why there was a chain buried in this field. He unraveled more things as he went deeper into the soil. What was it attached to? Mike's curiosity drove him on to uncover more and more of this mysterious find. As he went on, he eventually realized that it was turning into night. The light was fading and he couldn't see what he was doing anymore. He rushed to his car to get a flashlight so that he could keep going. He could not help but curse when he found out that he did not have a flashlight on him. As much as he pained him, he knew he had to abandon his find for the night. He couldn't solve the mystery within the day. He hardly got some shut eye that same night, and he told only his closest friends about what he saw. Mike came up with several theories about what he might find connected to that rusty old chain.  He slept restlessly, part of him just eager to get back out there and solve the mystery. Could there be something terrible down there? Mike was starting to get worried that he was not uncovering something unique and awesome, but rather something that someone did not want to be discovered. There could be any number of explanations for what he was finding and not all of them pointed to something good let alone something that needed to be uncovered and dug up. Could he be in more trouble than he thought? He previously read about old burial sites that were lying underneath Pembrokeshire, although this was not a comforting thought whatsoever. Could this be one of those sites? He was hoping it wasn't, but he had no idea what he was about to uncover. He was getting nervous. This uncertainty only filled him with a sense of horror. He knew he needed to think more positively in such an uncertain situation. He wasn't going to walk away from this scene, but he was anxious to see what would happen next. As scared as he was, Mike was determined to solve this mystery no matter where it led him. It was not lost on him that Pembrokeshire has been described to be a land of enchantment and mystery by the unknown author of the 11th century folktale collection known as the Mabinagian. These were fantastical folktales from the area, filled with all manner of magical and mysterious creatures, peoples, and events. The only thing Mike knew for certain was that anything could be possible. The last rocky Welsh outpost is surrounded by the Celtic Sea and continues to be steeped in myth and legend. There was so much mystery and there were so many questions about what Mike was about to find. All the questions that ran through his mind both scared and excited Mike. The possibility seemed endless so finding out the answer to the mystery was just that much more enticing. With so many tales of magical and wonderful creatures and beings as well as being in area with a long and rich history. It is no wonder it has since become known as one of the world's most haunted places. Mike disregarded these thoughts and simply stayed determined to solve the mystery he had begun to uncover. However, Mike did not know that he was about to go face to face with the eerie past of the country. As soon as the day broke out, he already found himself outside. He headed for the site right away. He needed to find out what was lying at the other end of that mysterious chain. Once he got to the field, Mike parked his car and walked to the spot where he had been the day before. He breathed a sigh of relief when he saw that the site had been untouched since he left it. Mike set to work again. What secrets could be lying there for such a long time? He did not think that it would lead to authorities on the field later that day. Little did he know that this was exactly what was about to happen. Mike said about uncovering more and more of the mysterious object until he came across something he never dreamed of. What was about to happen would surprise everyone who was helping out at the scene. Mike found the site the same way he left it. He was ready to get back to digging, although he was feeling some trepidation this time around. He worked with a new fervor as he continued to uncover the object he discovered the day before. As he uncovered more of this strange object, he noticed something. It sent a chill through his spine. Closed to solving the mystery. The trowel then hit a smooth surface. He could not stop his eyes from going wide when he wiped off the dirt and found something brown and hard. He couldn't believe what he was looking at. The more he cleaned off the dirt, the less he could believe what he was seeing. He knew he had to call someone immediately. He was a metal detecting hobbyist, so he knew the laws that came with his findings. However, not once did he expect he would have to call the authorities. Despite knowing the laws that were involved in finding something of value, Mike never imagined that he would have to make that call. He expected to make the call he did even less. He had never been in this situation before. The dig had been nothing more than a fun excursion in the beginning, but he learned that he was out of his depth as soon as he discovered human remains. What could this possibly mean? When he started his hobby as a detectionist, Mike had imagined finding all manner of things. This, however, was not something he had imagined. There could be so many outcomes from this discovery. Mike inspected the object he had in his hands and was terrified when it dawned on him that he was holding a tooth. To be specific, it was a molar. He shuddered when he realized that something was amiss here. The more he examined the tooth, the more uneasy he felt for some reason. Then it finally hit him and he realized just what it was that he held in his hand. Mike reeled from the shock, ringing the authorities. Mike got in touch with the officials at the National Museum of Wales before anyone else. However, they only laughed at him when he made the call. He had expected any number of possible responses to his discovery. Shock. Horror. Awe. He most certainly had not been expecting laughter. They didn't believe a word he was saying to them. What the archaeologists said at the time was that because there had never been a find down here before, they didn't believe it, he recounted during an interview. Mike couldn't imagine that anyone would make up a story like this. He was an honest man and most certainly would not lie about something this serious. How could he prove that he was telling the truth? Mike needed to convince them that he was telling the truth, so he dropped that he had reason to believe that there were human remains there. As soon as he said this, they changed their attitude in no time. The news that there were remains turned his story from something amusing into something sinister and serious that had to be investigated one way or another. But what would they uncover when they did? Mike waited for them to arrive. When they finally did he could see that they were still skeptical about his story but they were also worried. What he said he found could have serious implications. They asked him to guide them there. The look on their faces when they saw it said it all, he said. Mike was just thankful that they took him seriously and came to help him. This was how the excavation began that June. Archaeologists found two rusted iron chariot wheels. This was what they needed to confirm that this was a promising discovery. What they discovered was something extraordinary. No one had imagined that there was a site like this right under their noses all this time. It was a Celtic chariot burial site. What Mike had stumbled across was a complete chariot that had been buried there. It was not an uncommon tradition at a certain time in history to do so but finding a site like that was exceptionally rare. My first find was a Celtic horse harness junction piece, Mike informed reporters. When I found it my friend said I would never top it, but the next day I went back and found the rest. There was more. After he dug a hole around 8 inches deep into the ground, Mike discovered other decorative items such as a brooch, bronze bridal fittings, and some tool handles. What were these items from? He couldn't wait until everything was pieced together properly. The weight seemed endless but in the end the results were well worth the wait. All of these items had turned green from all the corrosion, although the bronze bits were still wrapped in bright red enamel. He wanted to be very careful with these items, of course, as he didn't know if they were valuable. Mike carefully excavated the pieces he could find and made sure not to damage them. He was excited and amazed to be part of such a huge and magnificent discovery. This is unprecedented, he said, and underneath the chariot, there is still the 3 meter metal anomaly. If you go buy other chariot finds there could be weapons or it could even be treasure. There was so much more that could potentially be uncovered based of what had been found at similar sites around the world, it was not unheard of to find a burial chariot dating from the period all over Europe. However, what made it so special was the fact that this was the first one they found in the United Kingdom. Mike may have dreamed of finding treasure but never in his wildest dreams did he ever imagine that he would be part of finding something so extraordinary and unique. I still can't believe it, he said. Obviously I've read other people's finds. I've watched them on the telly and I've always thought, I wouldn't mind finding that, it's still surreal and life-changing. To be like the people he had watched on TV and envied in the past was incredible. The more they discovered the more amazing it was. He thought he was dreaming. He went on, it was just instinct. I'd read all about chariot burials and just wished it could have been me, so finding this has been a privilege. Now that his hobby has led to a major discovery, the location has since come under legal protection. This was done in an attempt to protect the site from all manner of dangers such as looters. Aside from that, Mike needed to sell the artifacts that he got there from the day before the actual excavation under the law. What did he get anyway? There were so many things that he found that he wanted answers about. With this in mind, he approached the experts to discover the truth about the pieces that he had dug up. Aside from that, Mike needed to sell all of the artifacts that he got there, even from the day before the actual excavation, it was a very strict law he was dealing with. Mike knew that if he kept anything from his amazing find, he could end up in some seriously hot water. He didn't keep anything a secret and handed everything over as the law required. What did he get anyway? Overall, he discovered a total of 34 items. They were then sold to the museum, but it is good to hear that he got compensated for them handsomely. He needed to split the profit he made with the person who owned the land he discovered them in. Mike had no problem with this as it seemed only fair. It wasn't on his land after all. The treasure has since become a very sought after prize. As a testament to that, the National Museum of Wales also wanted to get them for the archives.  Mike couldn't believe that what started as a regular day became something he'd remember forever. He never imagined that when his favorite field was flooded, he would make a choice that would lead to something like this. A National Museum of Wales spokesman said the site was a very exciting iron age discovery that could be developed into a bigger project in the future. Full excavation of the site and analysis of the find will need to be carried out before we can fully understand its importance. The site now enjoys legal protection. They added, a preliminary excavation of the site where the artifacts were found was carried out jointly by Amgavah Simruh and dived archaeological trust over the summer, partly funded by CADW. This discovery revealed more significant and exciting discoveries at a once unknown iron age archaeological site. The spokesperson went on and said, Amgavah Simruh is working with its partners on this continuing treasure case and in developing a detailed and fully funded proposal for further investigation. It is intended that a wider museum project will be developed to offer opportunities for local communities to become involved in revealing new stories about their prehistoric past. Mike, of Milford Haven, knew just how incredible his find was, saying, it's rare to find it in that good condition, it's rare to find in any condition. Clearly, he's done extensive research on the matter and didn't think lightly of this discovery. And rightly so. As the find continues to be studied, more and more information is revealed. Mike and the authorities had released many statements to the press regarding the find. Another joint statement went on to say, these are now the subject of an ongoing treasure case in Wales. A preliminary excavation of the site where the artifacts were found was carried out by Amgavah Simruh and dived archaeological trust together over the summer and was partly funded by Cadw. Since the age of 12, Mike has been a metal detectorist when he got a metal detector as a Christmas gift from his dad.  For this reason, Mike dedicated this incredible find to his 79-year-old dad, John Smith, who is getting palliative care after a stroke. He has gone on the record with this comment, I knew the importance of them straight away, I'd read all about chariot burials and just wished it could have been me, so finding this has been a privilege. The chariot is believed to be roughly 2,500 years old. However, they did not find human remains. What Mike had thought might be human in nature was fortunately animal instead. There is still plenty of conjecture about whether a queen or a chieftain had been buried with the chariot. They found a tooth, although it seemed to belong to a horse that they believe was buried along with it. There have been many examples of animals being buried along with prominent figures throughout history. Some of these finds have been made in places like Egypt or even as far afield as China. High-ranking chiefs of the Iron Age normally got buried with their horses, chariot, tack, and weapons. During the excavation, they found the tops of a set of chariot wheels. Often the wheels were laid flat, Mike explained. These kinds of discoveries help us to further deepen our knowledge and understanding of the cultures of the past. Little is known about people from so far back so finds like these are extremely important. But this one appeared to have been buried intact. It could have had the chieftain or queen sitting in it. There would have been a mound over it but that has gone. He was in disbelief still, by the incredible discovery he made. The fact that it was so different from many of the finds in the past made this a truly rare and unique discovery. After they quarantined the site to restrict access by the general public, they ran a ground penetrating radar over the field. What they found would make you think this is a science fiction novel or movie. The scientists were hoping to find something of course. But, just as Mike's initial find had turned into something much bigger than he had expected, so too had the search with the ground penetrating radar. Survey work involved the use of some pretty sophisticated geophysical technology. It let them map structure lying far below the earth. They found a ring ditch which is a 12 meter circular earthwork around the site. Earthworks are commonly found in the United Kingdom and far across the world. However, many of these earthworks remain a mystery as many of them defy everything we think we know about the people who built them. They also found two other burials also located in ring ditches. Soon after this they discovered a complex of walls and other similar features. This convinced researchers that this was a Celtic settlement that has remained hidden for a long time. The actual field is very large and it is only in the corner of this field. But the settlement is also going into other nearby fields, Mike explained. This meant that the find was even bigger than anyone had expected it to be. Adam Guilt is the principal curator of prehistoric archaeology at the museum. He explained, these chariot pieces may have been witnessed to some of the historical events of the time, as Iron Age peoples defended their ways of life and identities. The Iron Age spanned from 1200 BC to about 550 BC. This was a time when man first learned how to create iron and steel and to fashion it into all kinds of things. These ranged from weapons to decorations and more. In the face of an expanding Roman Empire. Something like this takes a lot of organization and funding as well so we've been working with a number of partners to put together what's needed to do a continuing investigation. Mike was so proud of what he'd found and Adam Guilt couldn't believe it either. So what comes next? Would there be another discovery? Was Mike about to hang up his hat? He went on to say, something like this takes a lot of organization and funding as well so we've been working with a number of partners to put together what's needed to do a continuing investigation. There was one more question that everyone wanted to hear the answer to. How much was it worth? Every treasure is valuable of course. But what about a find of this magnitude and importance? You're definitely talking six or seven figures, Mike Smith speculated. It's the biggest ever metal detecting find, as in there's never been a chariot ever discovered by a metal detectorist. There have been hordes found, but never anything like this. We have to say that we feel a tinge of jealousy about the fact that he expects to net as much as one million pounds for the discovery he made. Whoa. One question that remains is, who were the Celts? As it turns out, the answer isn't quite simple. The Celts were a collection of tribes that originated in Central Europe. They shared a similar language, religious beliefs, traditions, and culture. It's believed that Celtic culture began to evolve as early as 1200 BC. Over time, the Celts spread out throughout Western Europe, including Spain, France, Ireland, and Britain. To this day, their legacy is prominent in Ireland and Great Britain, where traces of their language and culture are still present. The first documentation of the Celts was in the 7th or 8th century BC. At the time, the Roman Empire ruled most of Southern Europe and referred to the Celts as Gali, which means barbarians. Apart from finds like these, most of what we know about the Celts comes from the records of the Romans. There were many battles and tales of the Celts during this time. Despite the Romans' belief, the Celts, pronounced with a hard C or K, sound, were anything but barbarians. Many aspects of their culture and language have survived throughout the centuries and even to this day. The Celts were also not only found in the United Kingdom. Evidence of Celtic groups has been found throughout Europe and many of their traditions and rites are still visible today. The Celts controlled a lot of the European continent north of the Alps mountain range by the 3rd century BC, including present day Ireland and Great Britain. These islands off of Europe's western coast are the ones that allowed the Celtic culture to survive and thrive as the Roman Empire expanded on the European continent. Starting with the reign of Julius Caesar in the 1st century BC, the Romans launched a military operation against the Celts. The Romans ended up killing Celts by the thousands and destroyed their culture in a lot of mainland Europe. The Roman armies tried to invade Britain during this time but weren't successful. Thanks to their failure, the Celtic people were able to establish a homeland there. As a result, a lot of their cultural traditions are still evident in Ireland, Scotland, and Wales even today. While they were once much more widespread, these areas have the closest link to the Celts yet. Brittany, the region in the northwestern corner of present day France, was settled with Britons and Gauls. The Celtic tradition survived in the region since it was isolated from the rest of France, and a lot of festivals and events can trade their origins back to Celtic times. A lot of French, Bretons also happened to wear traditional Celtic hats called quaffs, meaning hats of lace, and about one quarter of the region's residents speak Breton, a Celtic language that's similar to Welsh. Despite the fact that Caesar's invasion of Britain wasn't successful, the Romans eventually had a successful attack against the Britons after Caesar's murder in the first century AD. This pushed the Britons on the island west to Wales and Cornwall and north to Scotland. As it turns out, the Romans actually built Hadrian's wall near what is now the border between England and Scotland, in 120 AD. The wall was meant to protect the Roman settlers from the Celts who had fled north. In Wales, named Simru by the Celts, the native tongue, Welsh, is a Celtic language that is still widely spoken in the region today. In Cornwall, a lot of residents still speak Cornish, which is similar to Welsh and Breton. To people who do not speak the language, much of it sounds incomprehensible. In Scotland, the Celtic language Scots-Gaelic is spoken, although by a minority, and the local affiliate of the BBC, British Broadcasting Corporation, is known as BBC Alba, the Celtic name for the region. Naturally, the bagpipes, the musical instrument that Scotland is best known for, can also be traced back to its Celtic roots far back in the past. Even though the Anglo-Saxons, who took what is now England from the Romans. In the 5th century AD, tried, they weren't able to successfully invade Ireland. Meaning that they remained isolated. Because of this, the Celtic tribes were able to settle there, namely, the Gaels and the Irish, to survive, and allowed their culture to flourish. That is why there is still such a strong Celtic influence in these areas today. In 432 AD, when Christianity arrived in Ireland with Saint Patrick, a lot of Celtic traditions were incorporated into the new religion. In fact, it's said by some historians that one of the main reasons Catholicism was able to take over as the dominant religion on the island after the mass killing of Druids, the religious leader of the Gaels. Many of our common traditions today can actually trace their origins back to the Celts. The modern meanings of these traditions are different but in some cases, even the original names remain. All the same, even with Christianity's newfound prominence, traces of Celtic culture remain. For instance, Ireland's national symbol, the shamrock, a green, three-pronged leaf, represents the Holy Trinity of Catholic tradition, the Father, God, Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. This is just one of many such examples. Others include things like Halloween, a Yule log and more. The history of the Celts is a truly fascinating subject. New discoveries are being made regularly about these amazing people. To top it off, the Celtic cross represents the region's unique take on the Catholic cross. In addition, a lot of Celtic folklore stories are still told in Ireland. Like Welsh, the Irish language, Gaelic, is a Celtic language. For the most part, Gaelic disappeared in the 19th century, when the English colonised Ireland, but the language is still spoken in the western part of the country. A Celtic group of people who occupied part of western central Europe during the Iron Age was the Gauls. They were fearsome warriors who would cut off the heads of their enemies and hang them on their horses for everyone to see. Some would go as far as attaching the heads of fallen foes to their shields to scare their enemies when they went into battle. Celts had a strong belief that the head was the key to the soul and represented a way to communicate with the afterlife. One historian wrote that Gauls were tall, light-skinned, light-haired, and light-eyed. We can only wonder what other fascinating discoveries still await us. Whether it be about the Celts or another civilization if Mike's story shows us one thing it is that the earth still holds many secrets for us to discover. He couldn't believe what he found.


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All right, so our next speaker, Tobias Macy, is going to talk about open sourcing your infrastructure and I was super excited when he came through with this presentation idea because it's actually something I'm pretty passionate about, like both open source and infrastructure code and seeing the two together is great. So Tobias is a systems architect with nearly a decade of experience designing and building distributed production grade web data and sensor platforms. He specializes in designing and building complex comprehensive automation for powering scalable and maintainable systems. His current adventure is helping MIT redefine global education as the manager and lead engineer for the technical operations team at the office of open learning. He also works as a consultant helping growing businesses evolve their initial infrastructure. In addition to his work, he also hosts podcast.init which is a Python podcast about how Python and the people who make it great. He is one of those people, so I would really appreciate if you gave him a big round of applause. No worries. Hi everybody, so as James said, I'm gonna be talking about open sourcing your infrastructure, why you should do it, why I did it and some of the challenges and reasons behind all of that. So you're wondering who is this guy? Oh, I'm Tobias Macy. I'm the DevOps manager at the MIT Office of Digital Learning, recently rebranded as the Office of Open Learning. It's hard to keep up, so I'll just stick with the Office of Digital Learning. I also host podcast.init. I'm a system architecture consultant by night. These are all the ways you can get in touch with me. And what I'm talking about is there are a few different ways to think about open source. So when everybody thinks about open source, you're probably thinking Linux, Ruby, Python, Caosay. Well, I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about small open. So as you can see up there at the top, we've got the Saltops repo, which is where a lot of the infrastructure code for my particular department goes. Right below that, you've got Chef. So you can see there's a huge disparity in the overall popularity, but I'd like to argue that they're both equally critical to our overall ethos of DevOps and infrastructure. So why do you care? Why do you want to open source your infrastructure code? Well, I think that for one of the reasons is that it's a lot easier to get help when you're stuck with that bug and you're saying, how on earth am I ever supposed to solve this? Because rather than having to bang out 15 pages of documentation and try and make sure that you redact all the pieces that you don't want people knowing about, you can just send a link and say, okay, I've got this problem. This is where it is or at least the general idea. Maybe here's a diagram of the stuff I've been working on and then you can send that out and people can actually see exact concrete evidence of where that problem might be coming up as opposed to I've got a sort of 15 line snippet of my code and the issue is actually on the 16th line but I can't show that to you because that's proprietary. Also, as an individual, it improves your visibility across the world, across your sort of peers and who doesn't like working with open source? As a team, it encourages loose coupling because if you know that everybody in the world is gonna be able to look at everything that you write, you wanna make sure that it's architected well, that you can actually make smaller parts of it usable for other people as opposed to giving people the end of the string that they then have to unravel and try and figure out, okay, how do I break this one piece that I care about away from the rest of this system? It makes deployment easier because you don't have to say, okay, did I remember to put the SSH key for that GitHub user on this server so that it can clone my infrastructure code? You can just say, nope, it's open source. Here's the URL, pull it. Makes a fighting with that a lot easier and it encourages better code hygiene because you're less likely to put in those AMI keys or the, or IAM keys rather, or the SSH key that you care about because you say, right before you push, you're thinking, do I really wanna add that in? Do I really want everybody to be able to see this and what'll happen if I do? So maybe I should put this in a different location or abstract it away, maybe put it in vault. And why does your boss care? Well, it fosters community goodwill because I'm sure most of you have been out there on the job market looking at companies and thinking, why do I wanna work for these people? What are they gonna offer me? And one of the things personally that I enjoy seeing is a strong commitment to open source where you can say, I know that if I go to this place, I'm gonna be able to work on cool things and I'm gonna be able to let other people see it rather than I'm gonna be working on cool things but my NDA says that I can't ever tell anybody about it except in the most abstract terms. It also improves your recruitment potential for that same reason because people outside of the organization will be able to see, oh, they are working on cool things, they are using tools that I'm interested in or maybe they're using tools that I'm not interested in but I can help evolve them to a cleaner and better state. It also helps with employee onboarding because rather than having to start first day, say, okay, here's everything that we're working with, here's everything that you have to learn in the next two days. You can give people an easier on ramp because from the very first time they start talking to you and engaging with you as an organization, they can see, oh, this is what I'm gonna be working on, this is a problem, maybe I can have a fix for it ready to go by the time I get in the door. So where is this talk coming from? As I said, I personally enjoy open source, I like being able to work on it and when I started at MIT, I was faced with a pile of spaghetti code and a choice. I could either try and unravel that spaghetti or I could start fresh and start open and so I made my argument of why I thought there was the better option and we proceeded to go with that and so over the past year and a half, everything that we've written has been open source aside from our passwords, you can't find those on GitHub and unfortunately there is one piece that we don't have open yet because of the fact that it has all of those binary GPG blobs in there and so in a commitment to open, one thing that we've been doing is rearchitecting our system where the majority of that rearchitecting is being done in the open so that we can remove all those secrets, put them into Hashicorp vault add that layer of abstraction I was talking about and then open source the rest of our configuration code so stay tuned for that part. So when should you get started? Well yesterday is good, now is better but as soon as possible because the longer you keep all of your infrastructure code the more likely you are to put those IAM keys where they don't belong or add another helping of spaghetti on the plate and so the sooner you start thinking about how can I open source this? What pieces can I open source? The more likely you are to engender that culture and ideal of decoupling your code making sure it's easier to maintain, easier to distribute, easier for other people to understand what you're working on because if somebody outside your company can understand what's happening chances are people inside your company can as well so it reduces complexity, reduces issues with misunderstandings between teams or what you're working on. How can you get started? Well, you can open source your next module for your infrastructure so you've got that piece of code that you wrote that plugs in Hashicorp Vault to your configuration management platform. Well, you can open source that because everybody wants to be able to use Vault and they want to be able to do it in an automated fashion. Side note, I did that. If you want, there's a link later on if you want to take a look at the way we did that. You can open source a script that you wrote that makes it easier to just get your configuration management bootstrapped on your IAM nodes or open source the configuration for your Packer build because people want to know, how does Packer even work? You can open source the inner workings of your chatbot because it's the pieces that touch your systems that you don't want people to be able to see, but the guts are gonna be the same for everybody and chances are somebody else can take advantage of it. You can open source your system diagrams. Again, easier onboarding, easier to discuss the problems that you have and chances are somebody looking at your overall system architecture isn't then gonna be able to say, oh, that's the part I'm going to go and compromise, hopefully. You can open source your runbooks. So if you get woken up at three o'clock in the morning for RabbitMQ having a network partition, chances are other people have that same problem. So why don't you write up how you solve that problem, put it on GitHub, put it on Bitbucket, wherever you want to make it public, put it on a blog post and say, when I have this problem, this is the runbook I go by because again, the more that you make open, the easier it is for people to learn and that's what DevOps is about, right? Learning from each other. So now what? You can check out the code that I've written. You can go and open source something yourself and so one of the other things I wanted to talk about here was that as people who are learning continuously for our jobs, we say, okay, I wanna go use this tool, how do I do it?  You say, okay, now what? And then you say, well, I'm gonna figure it out and then I'm gonna write that intermediate blog post but work gets in the way, life gets in the way. I'm sure we've all thought it, I've thought it. I say, okay, I'm gonna write that post but then I never do. So this is another way to fill that gap of knowledge is by open sourcing the actual production grade code that you're writing to scale and manage your systems. You're opening the door for people to get past hello world and broaden that on-ramp for anybody else who's trying to get started in this industry or get started with that tool. So I just went really fast through all of that. So I guess why don't I take some questions so that I can broaden on some of these topics. So this is good for like, if I have individual scripts or say puppet models or things like that but what about overall architecture patterns? Have you seen any examples where someone like me could go and say just find a basic building block of how someone might build a piece of infrastructure for a particular application? Yeah, so that's actually a really great example of where having your infrastructure code open source would be useful because you can say, okay, for taking as an example something that I work with most of the time is a Django application. It seems simple, you just say, okay, it's just some Python code, but it's also a database. It's also Redis. It's also Nginx and Uwizgi to make sure it's all running. It's also my monitoring and my load balancing and how do I get those servers provisioned? So each one of those individual pieces is something that you can open source and so you can say, okay, I've got a formula for deploying a Uwizgi application. I've got a formula for installing Python and some Python code. I've got a formula for provisioning an RDS instance and then what you can do is you can write the glue code that says, okay, now I'm going to orchestrate deployment of all of those things. So you say, first I'm gonna bring up my database, make sure that that's healthy. Now I'm gonna bring up my application servers and make sure that they can connect to my database and to Redis, make sure that they're listening.  If you start at the single instance level of here's how I deploy RDS and then you write all that glue code and open source that, that glue code right there is a perfect overview because even if you don't necessarily have the pretty diagram that says this is how everything fits together, for somebody who is motivated and trying to solve that same problem, they can look at that glue code, they can figure it out and chances are you'll have references in that code to all of the individual modules if they need to dig deeper on a particular piece of that system. You talked a lot about how you should not have your IAM keys in there, things like that. How do you deal with the situation where somebody new joins your team and they miss the memo about the IAM keys and oops, they committed? I was just speaking from experience this situation where we had something open source and we had all our keys in a separate place and then somebody basically was new and didn't know the policy and then that basically forced us to close some things. Should you just speak to that concern? Yeah, so that's one of the things where the overall practice of open source and code hygiene comes into play is that you want to make sure that you do have some guardrails for new people. You say, okay, everything that goes into production needs to have code review, you need to test it in a sample system because those are all checks where you can catch that mistake. If that mistake does make it all the way out to production, all the way out to GitHub, then yeah, you revoke the key and hopefully you notice it before any compromises happen. Also making sure that you do have good documentation of just these are our best practices. This is where our secrets go and actually having a system for secrets management which is one of the more complex things in our industry but there are available ways to deal with it. So yeah, basically just make sure that you have those checks and balances. Make sure that you have decent onboarding so that when somebody does first start, you have somebody there to help them along and figure out what are all the pieces that they need to be thinking about. Did I answer your question sufficiently? Yeah, if your code review is done on GitHub, as soon as someone uploads a branch, the key's already gone. Right, and so that's why you want to make sure that you do have those guardrails of you can only create a key that's scoped. Also, one of the great things about having all your infrastructure open sourced is that because we can learn from each other, you can see patterns of, okay, this organization does a really good job of managing their scope of their credentials. This organization does a really good job of automating checks. You can have pre-commit hooks to do checks to see does this commit contain anything that I don't want to be made public. And by being able to, as the keynote presenter say, have the pioneers with infrastructure code that you can look at to see what are the ideas they put in their MVP and then the settlers can pull in those ideas and add that to their infrastructure code and make it their own so that eventually you get to the town planner stage where some organization or group of organizations has settled on best practices, created a level playing field so that those pioneers then have something new to build off of and innovate on. In the vein of talking about security with your infrastructure, do you have any concerns about opening up your infrastructure code if for instance an attacking party were to review it and be able to find weaknesses in it? I'm not saying that you necessarily have IAM keys checked in, but you might be able to discern that maybe you have a hash that's an MD5 and you didn't realize that. Maybe you have an unencrypted link between two systems and you didn't realize that. Do you have any concerns about that? I think everybody who works in operations has concerns about that, but that goes to the point of what I was saying of when you know that your code is open, there's a better likelihood that you're actually going to consider, is this something that I really want to make public before you make it public? And it encourages you to architect your systems in a way that you don't have issues of people being able to see what is the overall topology of your network because you make sure that that's hardened and by open sourcing those examples of hardened network topologies, let's other people learn from that so that the overall problem of vulnerable systems becomes easier to manage and easier to deal with because there are concrete production examples rather than the hello world of this is how you create an IAM key and this is how you don't commit it to open source. So I'm wondering what license did you go with and did you have to get that cleared by legal? Was it a huge pain? Yeah, that's actually a very good point. So everything that I've open sourced, where? There, it's all BSD3 and fortunately I was in the enviable position of having already had that question answered ahead of time because MIT has a legal department where they say these are the open source licenses that you are allowed to use and from those I picked BSD3 clause because I feel that it's a great, it's a very open license. It says anybody who wants to can do whatever they want with this code just if you change it, make sure that you don't say that I'm the one that did it originally because I don't wanna take responsibility for what you did. That being said, open source licensing is a whole big topic that lots of people have opinions about. Yeah, I like BSD3 clause. There are definitely other great licenses out there. Apache 2 is another common one because of the sort of patent clauses built into it. I can speak louder. How do you deal with the IP issues in general? So I am in the good position of having the IP that I'm working on being intentionally open. So because I work at MIT in the department where we are trying to improve education globally, all the platforms that I'm working on are open source. So I run edx.org for residential students. We also feedback into the open edX platform with fixes and improvements. We write a lot of applications that tie into the edX platform and all of those are open sourced. So there's no real IP problems there but also unless your entire business is providing infrastructure or providing very low level tooling, then there's a good chance that there isn't any actual intellectual property that you need to be worrying about as an operations engineer. That's usually contained at the application level where if you're working in pharmaceuticals you wanna make sure that people don't have access to the diagnostic code that is used to determine whether or not your drugs are fit for human consumption or if you're working in, coming up link with examples, unless you're working in a company where your entire IP is your infrastructure, then most of the time as an operations engineer that's not really a concern. If it is a concern, there's a good chance you're not gonna be open sourcing your infrastructure but there are still pieces that you can release. So for instance, the runbooks. You may not be able to open source your overall network topology and how you ship your logs because that's the part that you're trying to sell to people but you can say if my servers go down in the middle of the night, these are the steps that I take to remediate that or these are some of the key metrics that I care about to make sure that everything is humming along smoothly. So again, it's going back to, it's not the big O open source where I wanna make the best project that everybody in the world is gonna use. It's little O, I just wanna make this open so that everybody can learn from it so that I can get feedback on the work that I've done and make sure that I am continuing to improve and I'm opening up those feedback loops because none of us are perfect, none of us are omniscient and so the more opportunities there are for that feedback and feed forward the better we're all going to be as an industry. The whole idea of a rising tide lifts all ships. So sometimes at work I'm moving very fast and I don't have time to look deeply into some of the things that I wanna use that I find in the open source world. So I tend to use those things that are pre-vetted, have a lot of information about them out there. So I wanna know like for smaller projects and things, what channels do you use to find the most innovative, interesting and useful open source things that are out there that aren't like the big name, big ticket things like chef, terraform, et cetera. Sure, so side note from that, as you can see from the naming on these, I use SaltStack for my work which is not one of the big three configuration management platforms but the way that I keep up with the smaller fish and see what's going on is I subscribe to a lot of newsletters to see what are some of the up and comers. Stackshare is a good one for that. Maybe looking at the GitHub trending but also just talking to people in the community say this is the problem that I'm having, here's where it's a problem, do you have any advice? And that's a really good way to let things bubble up that you might not otherwise be aware of. So one example of that is that recently one of the gentlemen from ThreatStack was talking about some code that he open sourced for being able to integrate LDAP with their infrastructure in a particular way and so that's something that most of the people in this room probably have never heard about but because you're engaging with your community and keeping an ear out for interesting use cases you can find out about those things as they first come into being. Well, if anybody does want to talk some more about it or have ideas or feedback, I'm gonna be around all day today and tomorrow. I'm gonna try and set up an open space for us all to talk about it and you can also get in touch with me at any of these places. All right, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.


Hello everybody welcome back to esoteric Atlanta, of course my name is Bryce and I'm joined here with my friend Jay from Spiritually Raw and Gnostic television and to see it and all those fun things. How you doing today Jay, Bryce? What you doing girl? Everything good? I'm so good. I'm so we were just chatting offline. We've got some really fun things coming up for our audience But before I told you day before we get into it I wanted to just on this show just explain something really quickly because I did get an email From one of our awesome viewers from Australia this morning very concerned because every time I share The website the prices look different on her website than my website So I just I thought this would be a good opportunity just to clear this up for everybody So nobody else is confused. So the United States Canada in Australia I believe and there might be a few more countries use the dollar symbol for their currency However, because I'm in America Jay's in America. This is the US price So if you're in Australia or Canada the price is going to look different because of the exchange rate I looked up this morning one US dollar is for Australia is a dollar $1.47 in Australia. So if your price looks different, they're not charging you more It's just the equivalent to what it is in the United States. I'm sorry if that's confusing for people I know it's it's it makes more sense when you see the pound sign or the euro sign But if you are in Australia or Canada, you also use the the dollar symbol as well So I just wanted to put that out there guys. They're not trying to pull a fast one on you That's just the exchange rate So what the Americans are paying are equal to what the Australians are paying just with the exchange exchange rate So so yeah, just wanted to clear that up quickly before anybody else got confused about that I'm sorry if that was confusing for people, but no, it's it's just your exchange rate So anyway, all right, Jay now we got that out of the way That's good to get that out It's an important thing because people are looking at this and they're saying what is this and and it is it's just it It literally just is their exchange rate based on the country But hey, so a couple things I wanted to you know We've had such a great response and again, thank you very much for just using your platform for doing this It's really helping a lot of people. So the next level of this has been the 5d economy and we've been able to crack what's called the prosperity code and that's by becoming abundant by helping other people become abundant And so a lot of people are asking Bryce like well, how do I do it? You know, I don't have a network or I don't have a Bryce channel Or I don't have a spiritually raw channel and all that right like how do I do it? So, you know, we We're here to say we feel your pain So but what we what we have a solution. Okay, so Bryce and I have been talking everybody and If you're part of Bryce as a CA team right now and you and you want to look at this as a way of doing a business What we know is what we know So what we know is what we know meaning that we broadcast if you follow what we did we broadcast it We interviewed somebody You all called and you made a purchase So I think the best thing for us to do is teach you that model teach you exactly what we've done. Okay, so For the right people the right energetic matches I think we'll be able to serve you well in this whole growth thing because a lot of you Do want to promote and sell this to see it right now because it is everybody's buying it Anyway, there's so much brand recognition. It makes sense for you know, and your friends to buy from you or whoever right so What we're willing to do is we're willing to start a weekly program Again, you know, we'll talk to you and make sure everything's an energetic match But teach you the ropes really teach you the ropes on on on how to get started How to how to set up your channel the biggest thing we're going to teach because the technical part is the technical part the more the Price I think like the way me and april did it. We have a course called the secrets to broadcasting riches We did and I'm going to give everybody information how they can access that for free. Okay Whoever's watching this whether they tend or not, but um It's it's really the it's really the attitude the theory behind it Okay, like the the mentality that the mind the mindset behind running one of these things not so much like well What lighting do I use what you know what camera equipment? You know, yeah, that's that's the functionality and that's there but it's more like your your energetic thought process on this You know, we're we're all coming from a place of that We believe the universe is abundant. So we have to test it You know, we literally have to tell we can't just say it and just not do anything with it We can't say the universe is abundant, but you're like, oh my god. I can't afford it. You know what I mean? It doesn't you know, I mean it doesn't it doesn't jive. You're not doing this. So um the Benefits price. I know you could probably I don't agree with this But I know like for me one of my favorite benefits of having a show is it's completely therapeutic for me You know, it's like the best therapy in the world. Whatever shit I got going on that day It just seems to all of a sudden not be going on that day after I've done one of these, you know So there's a lot going on there. It um, I from a personal Point of view. I believe it manifests.  It's it's thing and it you know, it's just we continually do it but at the end of the day We have found a way that We feel like it help people prosper. Okay, and and that is by using your broadcast Even look at the shows you watch everybody at some point in time is talking about something somewhere along the line It may be a product. It may be their service and maybe a book or whatever But at the end of the day these people are buying from people you all bought because you watched the show So why not have something like that of yourself if you think it's on your radar if you have a message or our our biggest um Our biggest I want to say our challenges is when we do these kind of trainings It's not so much training you this but untraining you the way you think That's really going to be the biggest thing. So I want you to all know that it's not so much Like what more do I got to learn? It's like almost like it's really kind of what you got to learn Is is really what we got to focus on too to help you get back to your divinity Uh claim your birthright, which is abundance, which is unlimited abundance.  Teach you the way Bryce and I are Our our own individual shows our businesses where the sea is specific or getting recognition a lot So, um, I can assure you you're with the top you're with the best if you would as far as in this kind of particular modelist industry and um, we know Our business is tied to you also. So we know that hey look well if we can Become abundant if we're going to become abundant. We have to teach you We can't just again same thing with us. We just can't say it either We want to teach you how to become abundant. So we're going to take you through the to the to the process we use Okay, exactly what we did how to build an audience So then the question is well, how do I build an audience takes you it doesn't it doesn't We'll we'll show you how to be able to attract We'll show you how to attract the price in your life. Okay We're someone like a price can come to you and say hey, I want I just noticed you have a show How do I get there next thing, you know You have now started the process to become an influencer or get connected to influence It could happen very fast. Don't let this overwhelm you You just have to understand how to move the pieces around and that's what we do very well. So um We this is see a business is important. There's look, I'm gonna be fully transparent on it. We love it We love what it's doing for us.  It's as important as food and water More and more people as you go along or longer. You'll start to realize that So it's something that people need. So it's just a phenomenal business to be into it Again, we know we can only get as big with this as you get as big with this So, you know, we would like your help and see if we can fit into each other's plans, you know, you got You got an audience. You got a message. You got your gift, you know that you want to share Let's it's a great time to get started with it, you know and help you through that help you through that and again, you know, I'm I love doing it price. It's like said, it's just it's fulfilling because you help people find their sole purpose by doing this You know, you help them they talk it out. You talk it out. You don't always get it right that minute And it's always an ongoing journey, but you always know You're getting there. You're getting there. You always know you're making when you're doing this You always know you're making forward motion You don't ever feel like stop or progressing. You know, you're working through it. You're getting through it Yeah, and I would say with this course. I mean what we've talked about offline It it reminds me of things you were saying a lot of stuff that I learned at university So this is very valuable what Jay is offering you guys and absolutely it's um There anybody can have and that's the beautiful thing about like youtube or instagram I know we we bitch about social media a lot, but anybody can do this There's nothing that's different about Jay or me than the person watching from home I don't have a contract with a production company. I'm not I'm sitting in my I'm filming from my bedroom right now You know, and so you you can um and that authenticity I've said this all the time like my college professor said, you know use cars salesmen They're not good liars because you know, they're lying Yeah People that when you're with the acia with every person I've spoken to with the acia Especially robin's episode that she filmed with me yesterday and if you guys missed that I will put that in the description box below Telling her story. These are all authentic people Literally with the platform telling you how this has affected them and that's part of that broadcasting for your business That's why businesses do well is because the product has integrity and so you're able so teaching you how to do that And it is a lot of that is unlearning as you're saying this Jay i'm thinking about rom dos and i'm sorry if you guys hear hammering. We are building next door So you hear that noise, but um rom dos would say, you know a lot of when you when you start to have a spiritual awakening You have to go and unlearn a lot and that is true It's not just in your spiritual walk that affects your business that affects your interpersonal relationships Everything has to be unlearned and reprogrammed and I think that part of that That scarcity that poverty mindset Is coming from programming that you need to un to un Because it's it's abundances there for everyone god does not I believe god universe source does not want you to be Totally suffering your suffering is necessary to an extent But only to an extent and then you course correct and make changes to find to find the peace in that And so I think that's amazing and I i'm really excited that you wanted to do this jay because I think this is going to help a lot of people get their confidence to be able to go out there and And market themselves and and and you know and and wreak the benefit of that And that's what I love about this company too. It yeah, it's not like a few people do well and that's it It's everybody. It's it's literally where it's it's we're all just walking each other home Where we go when we go it's literally everybody is doing this together And so it's it's a pleasure to be able to help people I sure is it really is it's it's like, you know when we can Look when we can do this we know that we are Getting closer to again our divinity and and really being the source that we are I mean, it's one thing to talk about it because the books teaches it But it's another thing to act on it. Okay. It's one action is the actions always In my opinion speak louder the words they always do so You know we we say very little we act on it. We we get the information. We know it But I will tell you it's um Like you said something really important just the confidence level that comes to one when they do this I mean, I know like, you know, I mean, I feel like I'm a pretty confident person But I will tell you I've been a hell of a lot more confidence as I started doing this You know just because it does get you there. You know what else it teaches it teaches you how to Not let your mind wander when you're in this moment. You're in this moment You're not you're not wandering down the road here or what happened in the back You're in that particular moment and that's a pretty powerful place to be because that's where I believe The concept of God comes is in that moment, you know, your your energy your your your power Your your knowing your downloads because you can be in that moment You could be you can be in the in the spirit you can get to meet your spare I believe you're my personal view of this is I believe your spirit actually comes out to greet you And then you get to familiarize yourself with it. So so this is great benefits There's you know, we're obviously talking about the tangible things that get us to like which is You know having people buy stuff from you I ESEA, right? So you get paid that's that But again, the spiritual benefits of these are just going to be At a level I I can't even describe that to you and I can't even put a price on it because I don't know what that's You know, it's not worth it But you know a couple of things Bryce, I will tell you speaking to that I just started doing this put the ESEA in a dropper And it's the best eyedropper in the world number one like it feels so good But here's the other thing that happened with this Now I've only I used it before and I remember I remember before like when I first started using the sea and I just started doing it again more more regularly now, but it I don't know but it just like all of a sudden like my mind goes It's like I put it in my eyes. It's like I feel like my pineal gland immediately opened up It's like a boom something just opens up and I'm all of a sudden I get downloads and I'm just like clear I'm this and I just put this in my eyes My vision my vision is tighter. It's clear. I'm like I like an eagle I'm gonna have my boyfriend's big on eyedrops. I'm gonna have to like, um, I think he got it He used to smoke a lot of pots. I think you got addicted to eyedrops through that But I'm gonna have to tell him that so because that's We'll have to try it's it's funny when you're talking about today, um The action versus the theory and I'll tell you guys a real funny story about that So you can understand what we're talking about here in the astana lineage We have a saying that says 99 practice 1% theory it used to be Guruji used to say 70 practice 30 percent theory But in the 60s and 70s when the american started coming over to study with this indian guru All they wanted to do was sit around smoke pot drink coffee and talk philosophy all day and guruji got very frustrated It was like no you you have to actually practice you have to actually put this into into action And so he changed it because of the americans He changed it to 99 percent practice 1% theory because it really is about putting these these we we've spent all this time in this You know great awakening Understanding these philosophies and trying to kind of understand where we've been do now We have to put that into practice and now we have to any time you hit that obstacle of low confidence or the obstacle of A panic don't see it as an ending but just a puzzle that's going to provide you the friction to even go even further Right. It's like that that resistance training and so and having a support team having people around you To who have done this for a while to help you to guide you in this experience is priceless It's a privilege to get to do this and we hope that just like we're doing with the siyah How we shared it we're asking you to share it same thing with the show It's like you'll get you'll get your rhythm and then you know Maybe one day you're you're doing one of these and you're talking to a group of people and saying Hey, let me teach you what has has helped me in my soul in my spirit in my prosperity And you teach other people do it I mean this is how you change the world at a faster level because obviously we're talking to more than one person right now so, you know, you just You know, we we have realized pretty quickly again just from a standpoint of like we know people want help but the best way we can help us is based on the actions that Bryce and I have experienced and what we do We don't you know, just do things traditional way So we do it this way. So we're gonna and they work faster though. So we want to do it the way that works fast for you I don't think anybody's into the into the get going slow program at this point in their lives anyway So I really don't and if you're not if you are that's fine, you know, I mean, god bless you on your journey But ultimately We are looking for the best vibrational matches for us. Okay. We are looking to grow our business We are looking to grow our our our spirituality our prosperity all the way through and we understand the value of that We have to have a vibrational match to make this happen. So I would like to extend my hand My number's always there if you all would text me. I would love to chat with you Get to know it a little bit better if you feel like we could be a vibrational match together then let's go Yeah, so for this course, so this is actually going to be a course that's going to be done Privately, it won't be done on you. Don't worry. We're not going to record and put it on you too So if you're interested in taking this this course basically just text j at the number that listed below three two one two one six 80 47 you don't have to be in the united states You can be you know, and just just make sure you put the plus one When you're texting for those that have iPhones, I know from my experience working with other countries We don't get charged for text messages overseas It's only when you make a phone call and if you need to make a phone call We'll put you on zoom or whatsapp or something like that So you can just send that text message if you want to do this course and and talk to j about it and figure out If that's best for you Yeah, yeah for sure. I mean, you know, you'll know I mean, like I said, you'll know and then so I want to thank you Bryce is always for you know Have me come on and using your platform because we did want to introduce a lot of people were asking I was trying to figure out a way to help everybody but again again The best way I can know how to help you is knowing my own journey You know Bryce's own journey So and we're doing it together which would be cool You know what I mean?  I mean that's then that yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't happen and I'm sympathetic to it and But it's just also I've also can I've also realized that that's also a world one can choose You know, it's a it's a part call it a dimension call it whatever people whatever the name of the game is today You know, it is it's something that people choose. So I you know, just to help you with that there's some thought processes There's some disciplines that will make you a champion and we're here to help provide that there's the more your champion The more we're champion. It's just going to be that simple everybody. Yeah, it's unity not division So yeah, absolutely And I totally agree with you Jay and I think we've all had those experiences in our life We've been down the dumps and now and also everything around you starts to fall apart because you're you're attracting what you're putting out and so You know and it's it's um, it's the more abundant you are the more you can be of service to other people The more it enables you to to be peaceful and imagine if everybody in the whole world was that way We would not have to deal with wars and militaries and because we would all be living a very peaceful life And so absolutely So yeah, so guys just text us if you're interested and we'll get we'll we'll go from there It's funny. You're saying that Jay and I'm I'm probably going to do because I know a poverty mindset or issues with money is A root chakra issue. It's a mulladar issue now As you're saying that I'm going to go and look up some things some exercises as well to go with the mulladara issue Of prosperity of why you don't think you deserve And that that comes all the way down to the root chakra So I'll look up some of that stuff as well for you guys and I'll put it on the channel We can talk about it privately with people too So so yeah, it's really just course correcting how you view yourself and your worthiness So um, so yeah, let us know guys since send Jay that text if you want to be a part of this course Cool. Cool. Thanks price. I appreciate this. I'm looking forward to doing this everybody It's going to be a fun ride. Hey, don't forget if you're in the United States, you got to try this. This is the best I can't wait for you to get yours. I'm so waiting. I already I've got yeah But I will say you guys have been sending me messages on signal and telegram Loving the new radiance product. So I cannot wait minds in transit right now So hopefully we'll get it in the next couple of days. I can't I I will tell you guys I was pulling up some old videos this morning for a video to put the description box And I was looking I can tell a huge difference from myself a year ago to now Just from the few months. I've been on asia just I look a lot younger now And I think that that that's the beautiful thing about having a platform too Is you can actually go back and look and see the transformation? It's the only thing that's changed The only thing that's changed in my life is the asia. That's it. So That's it, you know, so it speaks for itself.   It's broken down in like five to six minute video So it's super easy for people to watch so it's not all drawn out and it's like little categories And they can watch me and April actually talking to different people and how we help guide them through the journey and And and get them to start really learning how to ask the right questions. That's what it's really about is What questions are you even asked so we get them to that point? Yeah, that's awesome I'm going to put a link to that down in the description box guys as always it will be under show notes Just go and look at the website. That's amazing that you guys are going to let people So even if you're not interested in asia, but you want the information just for your own business go and go and And we can talk more we can do an episode later on more about gnostic tv because That's going to be really cool too. Just in this subject itself. So So yeah, you guys all right, so take advantage of this go to gnostic tv tech ship You're interested in the course you'll be doing with jay and myself on a zoom and yeah I guys have a wonderful weekend and we will talk to you soon. Bye everybody All right, thanks brice My uncle dan used to talk about qtr qtr Meant for him quality time remaining My uncle dan was a very active Cyclist and a very avid hiker and after he retired after a long career He decided that he really wanted to make the most of the years he had left Where there was quality to his life before the aging process Really limited his ability to enjoy things like cycling and hiking Unfortunately, my uncle dan did lose his battle to cancer back in 2019 But when I was first introduced to the asia product All I kept thinking about was my uncle dan and his concoction post-retirement of quality time remaining As human beings we've been taught that as our body starts to age We eventually have to start giving up some of the activities that we enjoyed For my uncle that was cycling and hiking with the asia supplement What this product does is it restores signaling back into the body Signaling our communication between the cells of the body Is what actually allows the aging process to happen Your body is designed by nature by god Whatever you want to call that higher consciousness. It's designed To heal itself. That's why the cells communicate. That's why you have an immune system But unfortunately as we become conditioned to the toxins of this world That immune system and that signaling system start to wear down When our body loses signaling, that's what causes wrinkles. That's what causes cellulite That's what causes the hair to gray and for men That's potentially what causes hair loss as dr. Silverman has used as an example When we are a child and we fall off of our bicycle and skin our knees our recovery time is pretty quick This is because we have an abundance of redox or signaling in our bodies But after puberty and into our adulthood we rapidly start to lose this signaling So if we were to follow up a bike at 80 that could be life or death Now for me since i've been on the sea now for about three months I have noticed a tremendous Amount of energy and endurance restored back to my life. As you guys all know, I am an avid Exerciser, I truly believe in the power of a good sweat and since starting the asia I have noticed that my recovery time between workouts and my endurance within workouts has Enhanced immensely. I'm able to go longer and harder I've also noticed as many of you guys have commented in the comment section I feel like i'm getting younger or at least looking younger. No, my age keeps going up But I look back and compare my videos now to the videos I did when I first started youtube And I feel like I look younger now Then I did then and I do have to say that is most likely because of the asia When I talk to my mother about this product I mentioned the quality time remaining that my uncle dan used to speak of And how with the asia for her as a grandmother This product can give her the potential to have a lot longer quality time of playing in the backyard with her grandchildren In fact, so many amazing incredible stories can be found In comment sections of this video and on asia's own youtube channel, which I will place down in the description box below Now we can't make any medical claims with this product as it is just a supplement But from my perspective and from all of the Perspectives and experiences I've read from you guys. This product has done nothing But enhance every single person's life Every single person's quality time remaining whether that be 50 years or 10 years We see a lot of people talk about med beds this idea of med beds everybody's waiting for a med bed But what if I told you in my opinion The med bed is already here With the asia what it comes with each liquid It's a liquid each liquid comes with its own shot glass The shot glass is about two ounces each person is instructed to take between four and eight ounces a day You take a little shot of the asia you swish it around for 30 to 60 seconds So that you allow the saliva to carry the redox where it wants to carry it And then you swallow the rest the redox is so Genius and the creators of this product are so Genius that in my opinion they really really honored and respected God's design because you see when you take the liquid redox you are allowing your body Its own intelligence because the redox is just a tool. It's just the signaling for your cells Your cells your body is designed to heal itself And this is what helps the body to continue to heal itself And so when you take the liquid your body knows exactly where it needs to send the redox What part of your body is wounded what part of your body isn't so stable And so it sends the redox to that particular area So the cells in that area can start to communicate to get that particular area of the body Back to where it needs to be Now of course with this redox gel you are able to direct the gel wherever you want it to go So today I woke up and had a little bit of a creek in my neck So I took the redox gel and I rubbed it on the back of my neck three times within five minutes I personally in my experience automatically started to feel relief You can also use this as a beauty supplement too I've been using the gel on my thighs and On my boobs because yes friends. I am 40 years old and as as the aging process does occur The body starts to droop a little bit and no, I've never had children So my boobs aren't as droopy as they could be if I had to use them to feed a child But they still are you know, I got boobs and they they they're they're starting to sink a little But I also have stretch marks on my boobs that I've had my whole life because you know, they grew At some point when I was child So I've been taking the gel and putting them on my chest And not only have I noticed a difference, but my boyfriend has also noticed a different difference as well My boyfriend has been putting the gel on his head as he is in his 50s now He has started to notice thinning of the hair as most men do Around that age in their lives and he is starting to grow his hair back Which is quite incredible. In fact, I find myself now when I walk past him putting my hand in his hair Just to feel all the hair that's growing back on his head. You see my friends Your body doesn't want to fail you it wants to keep you going It wants to keep you healthy that is how god designed it and this product is basically the controllers of this world worst nightmare Now once again, I can't make any medical claims because This product is just a supplement But from everything I have researched about this product from all of the people using this product You really can't go wrong with this product and because this product uses the intelligence of your body Each individual person is going to start to notice different things occurring With this product if you are interested in learning more about this product or purchasing this product Or even becoming a part of the business of asia Please text brice info to three two one two one six 80 47 again, that's brice info to three two one two one six eighty forty seven And jay or hilis will get back to you as soon as possible If you are texting from a country outside of the united states, please make sure that you add plus one Three two one two one six eighty forty seven plus one is our country code And in your text on top of texting brice info Just make sure you let jay or hilis know that you are texting from a country outside the united states So they can arrange a call with you on whatsapp or signal or zoom any application That's not going to charge you with that being said another amazing thing about the asia company is that they do offer a 30 day Money back guarantee So if this product doesn't work for you or isn't what you expected after the first 30 days, they will refund you All right back to our show