What's going on everybody this is 2020 Bowman baseball hobby full case break number six picker teams on Jasper's case breaks calm Joe's opening the case right there Having a little office watch party of the office on comedy central of the very far superior US edition UK office is much better I'm access snatch is one of his favorite movies Is that a John Malcolm this movie that's a guy Richie movie Is that just out of the blue or is it got I think he's just referencing the British stuff Yeah, Joseph fan of like the UK stuff, I've never There's the break schedule. What's up Darren? I watched this new Ricky Gervais show. It's really dark though Yeah, yeah, that's kind of They came out with a second season, but I worked the first here's a great show, but it's just yeah Heavy I just a break your base because when you when he was in curb.  I mean for at least what I've watched. I like like cheesy NBC come Yeah, Matt, I think the crown route. What was that at like 1 a.m? Sure It's one of the last breaks I think around 1 a.m. Pacific 4 a.m. Eastern and I'll have the video uploaded Yeah, I did see that Rex Jimmy Fallon did I I don't know if we want to talk about that though But yeah, his Chris rock well He did blackface on SNL and now like people are bringing it back up and like get it issued an apology I think It was like 20 years ago, but probably not Smart all he did it 20 years ago. Yeah, probably still was not acceptable then either probably Yeah, but I mean like I got it. I don't know why you'd get like bringing up now and Just get upset about it People are bored Yeah, they're just looking at old R for their but yeah, I mean probably not not the smartest thing I mean Robert Downey Jr. Did it the Tropic Thunder So there's cast it's always I think no, but they do Well, I think that's the Tropic Thunder I think that's why Robert Downey Jr. Kind of got away with it. Well, and he's Robert Downey Jr. Right But I think that the filmmakers were very careful to To do it and make it so over the top that it was Absurd like you could obviously be making right people who do it Yeah, the and the Jimmy found one was not funny, so that's also part of it, right? It's like what Jimmy Kimmel did it's dangerous ground I think Jimmy Kimmel did Carl Malone blackface to 24 150 will Wilson But yeah, I mean it was a long time ago, it's like they just did it so it is a little different but probably not Yeah, purple auto the 250 grant little Outrage 20 years ago, right? Jeffrey Goldberg with that Maybe it was the 145 sketch and then during the second night Chris Rock told him that he could do it. He loved it Yeah, I guess that changes it to a little bit. All right, so that's the one autos So now we just have non-auto stuff to look for remember only paper cards that ship will be Robert Paulson Bobby Witt Jr. And Jason the mean guy Don't mean guy all the domain guy Billy Crystal did Sammy Davis Jr. late 80s and no one care Tomic Julia Rodriguez There's a Dominguez paper. Yeah, I mean 80s was a little different to right Yeah, I think Robert Downey Jr. probably the last one ever Do that. I don't think SNL is that funny anyway, I don't I've never liked SNL I've never really like skit comedy. I kind of like he and feel a few but Just not my type of Comedy I Got I don't think the old SNLs are that funny, but that's just me Maybe you had to grow up in that prime generation of SNL people Orange paper you say kukuchi to 25 Very family born Yeah Is that we're gonna say actually yeah, and it's like an actual star Remember how he created a YouTube series about posting feel-good news and stuff And then he sold it to CBS Viacom for like 20 million dollars The YouTube show he created like two months ago during the quarantine just happy news And then he sold it so isn't that kind of like against the whole point? Yeah, that makes me sad. He's a sell-out I guess someone told me that someone new like he's not a very nice person either like some set people say that Oh, yeah, I think Alex said that's me. I don't know. I was like, okay Somebody somebody on set Mike Krozowski Mike Krozowsky I know I got on you know I did actually it was it was at a good time It's gotta be on that's what it's gotta be on. It's just gotta be I don't believe the temperature It's got to circulate that temperature. You can't just be stagnant at that time Remember how they made a sequel and nobody watched it What do you think they are a toy story? What's a prequel? I guess not a sequel What do you think they are a toy story this make they should have made a sequel, but they made a prequel instead That's where they went wrong. I know what we're gonna do that story afterwards sequel I don't know how it ended. I don't know I haven't seen it in 30 years Colt Walker to 250 purple I actually forget how much I think I think that's something to do with like, I don't know There's pretty much a little liberal agenda 25 about manufacturing oils. That's going on to Jay Remington. Man. We're really getting off topic here it was it was the octopus leg guy was the Oh my god Is this you come on? Well, it's backwards. I don't see it's numbered though. Oh, it is numbered purple auto Jason Whoo, so if the base ones are two grand Jeremy Tillman has the So it could have been super fun to when I flipped it around So the number on the front forgot that ice one JT There you go Tillman congrats, man Nice auto too some of his autos are streaky. This looks like a strong shot at a ten auto grade I don't know wonder wonder what hand he writes with Jason saying hobbies where it's at You know hobby stand if it's streaky is he is he left-handed when he signed because he's a switch hitter I don't know what what we got to find out what his pen hand maybe he does both Wow, so maybe he does like 400 left-handed 400 right-handed 400 left-handed 400 right-handed mid mid picture mid a break picture here For the grand Dane Dunning. Yeah, he could do two cards at once if he signs with both Done in half the time If he sides with both hands he could do two cards at once Man imagine if that was a super fracker auto People would have been people would have been like Just like that video They're talking about monsters ink the the artistic Dominguez the way the artistic wordiness of blackface and in comedy The liberal agenda in monsters ink and John Krasowski not being nice on set Yeah, it's really bad we go good. We went off the rails really fast.  Yeah, like life topics and we're just like man makes you think and then And I fall for Rex's bait late at night because I'm like delirious You're just like on autopilot. Yeah in the chat and then you're like, but and then it seems like oh No one's gonna see this but like what if like my future employer like sees that video and doesn't hire me now They're they're like they're like oh you talked about this on air. Yeah Yeah, all the paper base gets donated. Well, we sell it Usually sell it and then donate them the money that we sell it for a lot of times we sell it in the store or We do have a few teachers who buy from us that we send cards to but we don't usually send Bowman just because a lot of kids won't know Who the Bowman players are? Unless they're in a unless he's seven-year-old kids. Yeah, they're getting deep dynasty leaks But yeah, we do like these mystery boxes for $10 and then we have 10 cent card day And then we have a few charities that we donate them to LA's best after school program. Yeah, what about I'll just name there's Anthony vault to 499 I'll just name three like most controversial shit like Pita There's Robert possum might as well get this like even more There's Jeremy Pena gold no yellow auto The office is on the Comedy Central West Coast at least I don't know about East Coast Nice yellow auto to 75 Jeremy Pena Astros Jeremy Tillman having a pretty solid break Where were we doing who's doing the hot East tomorrow? I don't know. I don't know where where are we going to tomorrow? The other city is not set up We have to probably use the Alienware laptop I Kind of a move point here Everson Pereira Atomic you want to do tonight? Just do all Just break until 6 a.m. Just do it tonight Get it all out of the way. I might but we don't have them all on all that All in the war tomorrow No, I think I might set up my office for a streaming channel and do nick and I from there. Whoa From the corner office. Yeah from the skyline view office. Wow Dominguez spanning in the globe Pretty good studio. I Just got to pick up like a million cards and then we'll be good Maybe we have 20 Price of a blaster $20 hip-hack is coming soon 10 cards a pack We're gonna do something like that. Maybe $30.  Yeah What did they do that sun Netflix kind of funny actually I Know what I didn't realize it came out actually. Yeah, it came out last year. I remember they were talking about it It's a good way to waste like an hour and a half of your life Kind of funny The artistic the artistic merit of doing that kind of bit comedy Which I think is perfect in that sort of format Well, it's all for money Joe. I know all the money Zach Gallin Netflix said here needs a third 30 million Hollywood Hills home. I go hate for it with that It's all in the system, man. I mean, maybe he doesn't so maybe his agent is like I need a second home I'm sure it's alcohol gal finakis who hasn't been in very anything successful since the office or since That's not successful Well, maybe he likes that but he's like, oh, I'm not making man. He's getting the bag with the Netflix movie It's true. Oh for the bag It doesn't seem like the guy who would care about money, but I'm sure he does Is he is Netflix really getting that many extra subscribers? I don't even know how they make money I'm very confused about that business now Stock That's why they guys but how are they they don't do average. How are they making money? It's all subscription. It's all subscriptions Yeah, and they haven't hit like a ceiling on subscriptions. I don't think so. I think they're growing every day Their earnings are like higher each time higher beat their goals even with this plus Even with this plus this plus is a little baby compared to Netflix. That's like some monster Yeah, but they just have a lot lower ceiling Netflix is for everybody kids to a hundred-year-old Disney plus is any 60-year-old gonna be signing up for Disney plus of it unless you're a Mandalorian fan But you've canceled by now watch Fox in the hour or something like I haven't used Disney plus really since the Mandalorian I don't know why I still I should just cancel you got Marvel stuff on there. You like Marvel Yeah, but I've seen them in the theaters. There's no original Marvel yet. I Did watch the new I watched the new Pixar movie. Oh, kind of funny So if you don't mean giz you're thinking hey If there was some original Marvel content like a Marvel television show or like a series man Rex is just diving into politics here. The Zach SNL skit about Biden is hilarious or is it bidet? I can't tell which one you meant to say The Zach alphanakis, I'm assuming sketch. Is it about a bidet or Joe Biden? Yeah, they play that they play that song during the movie. The movie's really good. You should watch it I like it. It's not really good.  It's a perfect Perfect airport movie. If you're if you're flying to like Dallas, Texas It is the perfect airplane move perfect I would download that takes like an hour and a half and then by the time it's done like you're already kind of getting ready to land Perfect airplane movie. You download it on your Netflix. Yes download it on the Netflix Watch it offline. Don't have to pay for the Wi-Fi. Don't pay for the GD Wi-Fi You don't have to watch here. You don't have to touch that dirty screen the airplane tab There's my truck our airlines lied to us and said that there's Wi-Fi the plane with crash Yeah, and then they built it in. Yeah, they're like, oh, no $15 for it, then it won't crash then it won't crash right and won't crash Remember when they said you can't turn on your phone, but like you have to have your phone turned off, but now Remember The guy from SNL got kicked off a plane for playing words with friends all the way. Yeah, I like Baldwin. Yeah Gold shimmer Brian really had to play that word Then he was forcing how big words with friends was huge remember big mobile games were and then they kind of just fell off The Pokemon go well, I'm saying like I thought it was another Dominguez. I was gonna go nuts It is Ezekiel Duran For Jeremy tell them in terms of like words of friends candy cries like Zynga games like farm to Zynga games. Yeah Candy Crush, they must have been bought by somebody. They're public stock, too. They're probably yeah I was thinking of investing in them because I guess are getting heavy into gambling games with the legalization of gambling They might be a stock to watch a stock. Nick Jasper stock Stock to watch stock watch not poking my eyes because you're not supposed to touch them Slightly under stock to watch stock to watch.  Yeah, it's like the umpire See you to watch. I'll just do that in the middle of my Bowman hobby cases.  I invest my My whole inheritance in it Stock to watch I Have a really cheesy music Nick Jasper's it's like the graphics stop to watch Want blinking lights? Don't like to go off Nick Jasper stock to watch Zenga mobile gaming platform Yeah, I really like this game because it really has good navigation map and yeah, I think it's gonna have an effect on their stock Yes, Nick Jasper stock to watch That's it just five seconds Cody Hosey to 499 Blue shimmer set beer diamond bags to 150 Oh by the way That's that that girl in uncut gem, right? No way they let her bet that much money at that casino at the whole betting part was terrible There's a shirt in a postal. You can't take a Louis Vuitton bag full that he went to the Rangers We can't bet a parlay that much that much. I guess there's limit and you can't have a tip No one bet the tip in a parlay. That's illegal. But yeah spoiler alert But yeah, that whole part was kind of yes Did you like it other than that? Yeah, I did yeah, I did I think it really captured the intensity. It's very anxiety Oh, yeah, it's because they always talk over each other. Yeah, I didn't really know that until you mentioned that in the slack Oh, it's all right. They do that's why it feels like frantic. Just stress you out. I guess the Safty twins do that a lot. They have a very good movie with Robert Pattinson. Oh They did the lighthouse movie No, no, no, not that one. Oh, they did a same studio one in 2017. I Forgot what it's called, but it's pretty good on that one with Daniel Willem Dafoe and no, no, no It's not that one same studio same studio door. I think but yeah, they're I'll tell you a true story. I was watching the movie I had gotten out of the shower and I dressed and I grabbed my towel I was gonna take it to the bathroom and I said on my dad's chair And then I blinked and it was like 40 minutes later. I still have the towel in my hands I was dressed and I had a towel in my hands. I mean good. That's all like in grossing it was. Yeah Yeah, just like I don't know like If they needed to make it even longer, but they pack so much into the movie. It's a long movie. It's a long movie There's never a dull moment. Yeah Jaspies movie reviews Views It's like a bad FM morning radio, so It's like the echo reviews Be sure to hit the bell and subscribe Get more reviews and tell us in the comments what you want us to review next Cow says I hear the candy crush e-sports scene is rapidly growing. Definitely a great buy low-sell high candidate along with hummus Like the food the food hummus is there a symbol you got for us. Yeah, what hummus company am I investing in? I might start taking my investing in I might start taking my investing in I might start taking calls into my stock portfolio All right, we got Cal coming on Hey, hey, long time first time Just want to say Zinka is a great call You know the e-sports scene is growing and they're definitely the next one in candy crush Well professional candy you got these kids spending go on their parents iPads. Yeah, Adam Sandler was pretty good KG was great. Yeah, he's not a bad athlete himself. It's definitely one of the better athlete LeBron was pretty good in that one Amy Schumer movie who definitely fell off the earth Amy Schumer Yeah, never see her anymore Oh, I saw her on a food network. So there's commercial. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean no offense She's not in blockbuster anymore. Well Amy Schumer got a got a little accusation of feeling jokes. Yeah, I think maybe Maybe she's like laying low and then gonna be like My hands are ripping packs. I mean like you can see look nobody's here. Nobody else is here The gremlin came the gremlin that's like and I half of this height and it's like, yeah We definitely wouldn't have done that in the Dominguez out 250 like would we have shown that card? So people get weird. They're like you took my you took my chrome Dylan C's they start crying Like you said people other than the live viewers, they're just watching the recap I'm gonna delete this video from that or things of the internet. We talked about so much controversial subjects Break some omelettes to make some eggs. I think it's the opposite Break some eggs to make some omelettes like that reverses, right? Yeah Yeah, I want to hear more about this hummus cow. I do love hummus I've never had it, but is it something that I can invest it and make more money than what I put into it You should be sure about that draft Kings. My favorite stocks are ones that you buy for a certain dollar amount and then 150% My favorite stocks the ones that you buy for a certain dollar amount and then they're more and then you sell for more than what you paid For it. Whoa, those are my favorite That's that's an incredible concept if you want in on hummus Sabra is definitely great starter stock, but the big boys pretty much exclusively trade Trader Joe's hummus the big boys The big hummus Follow the money trader Joe's. That's a good call How much Trader Joe's is a stock I didn't know they're a public I Think he probably means going directly to Trader Joe's and trading with Joe. I Would I would take my fur pelts cold wind to 25 from from all my fur pelts Or does he mean that you go to Trader Joe's buy hummus and it's gonna go up in value It's like a buy-and-hold like prison basketball He hold it sealed Oh Yeah, because I heard that isn't there gonna be like a hummus shortage in 10 years due to cove it or something what I Don't know my brother saying something. You know him. Ooh, Joan Diaz nice Tampa Bay Rays Robert. I love hummus So like there's no more like chickpeas or whatever they make hummus out of something due to cove it Frickin cove it as long as I will write if there's an avocado shorter It might be it he might have been talking about that I'd love an avocado shortage I'd love a tree nut shortage and an avocado shortage Not if people didn't eat almonds I would be fine Have peanuts or something wait, but this is this article from 2018 a global chickpea shortage The price of tub of a tub of hummus is sore by almost 30 percent Bobby Dahlbeck. So what happens when uh So maybe there's just a similar thing happening now when hummus runs out. I Don't know what happens to their stock. I guess you sell Trader Joe's All right, so Trader Joe's is gonna be on my watch list Thanks for calling in cow max monthy to 50 What the financial times there's an article said that says the fight to save hummus from extinction As the climate changes modern chickpeas are in peril and that was a November 2019 article Wow type in avocados cove it shortage. What between 1996 and 2016 US hummus revenues went from five million dollars to seven hundred and twenty five million dollars How's that boss people got on that hummus train like late in life Trader Stowe's Trader Joe's stock doesn't exist Cow what how do I trade Trader Joe's is that unlike the dark web? not on that Six-toe Sanchez to 150 That's camera 250. There was an avocado shortage last July Gold auto to 50 for the Braves just seal de la Cruz Jason says Sabra is good. I'll bring some from Diplomat in Monrovia Thursday. Oh, yeah, I'll get some pita chips. That's Mark. I Didn't understand any of that.  So you'll see a major change Cow says they trade Trader Joe's underground.   Yes. Yeah, so yeah, I think the doctor said yeah I think even if you just had a spoonful, it would just be like like really bad food poisoning But yeah, if you had more than a few spoonfuls But He said that if he ever gets murdered under suspicious circumstances, I probably get Avocado cues and not a lot of people when I just told the 50 people Logan Davidson atomic you also told them he works at blizzard work that blizzard Delete this video No one's gonna be watching a lot like a replay of the eighth box of the hobby. I better get out of here Hurry up so I can do the other hobby, but no just think about that like imagine So like something like one of those avocado shanks. I don't order avocado when I'm around For fear that the food may be contaminated. I'm serious for go out for dinner like Don't do it Can't do it now. I'll be done with this in like 15 minutes Dominguez chrome tries Five boxes to go Yeah, don't show them that's where we got it from Factory oh Special special What's the diplomat here? What do we got pulling up the yelp? Oh, it's a uh it looks like a kind of a Now mediterranean bar and lebanese Ever seen sausage party? Yeah That's camera and atomic Adult animation. Yeah, it's radar actually kind of suddenly hints at like Western culture and politics. It's kind of funny Red dragon needs a uh Brennan davis red refractor auto He's got the cubs Like I need air. Wow Remember remember, uh Remember the movie red dragon? No, it's the It's a Hannibal Lecter movie with separate at 499 at norton and I don't watch Hannibal Lecter I'm not a horror movie guy. Joan Diaz is 299 a psychological thriller I'm not a psychological thriller guy Autograph Quinn cotton speckle to 299 first one. I was this lady done post office Um Blades glory Cincinnati reds that's going on to EA. I think she did that mid-office She did a abc show with uh, actually someone mentioned more really bobby lee and um, the guy the guy who's married to No, the guy who's The guy whose sister is kate hudson Oliver, Oliver hudson. Is that the show where where they're they're divorced, but they still live together? Yeah I don't know there was kind of good guy canceled So she hasn't done much. She also hosts an office friends podcast with angela kinsey Who was on the office? Angela kinsey. She's the uh, angela short blonde. Oh, that's that's dwight's. Okay. Yeah They host the office podcast where they watch an office episode and then talk about it And discuss behind the scenes for the meta deep dive. Yeah I don't know what they're gonna do when they run out of episodes to talk about but we'll see I guess kevin newman a two-fifth deal Yeah, she's from season one season one She's uh, I think she writ and direct a few episodes I think she directed my favorite episode. I want to say Yeah, I think she got like um, plastic surgery or something She looks a lot different now. Did you know that on the show? I mean, yeah Is he's from season one? Yeah He's also like a writer I think Bobby Whit jr.  Yeah, bj. Novak is with Mindy Kaling on the show I like to be the best I like, um Yeah, those are two really good ones. Yeah, I think safety day for me um When they do the fire drill and then Stanley has a heart attack. I also like uh The um the dinner party episode is a good one It's toast toast in here But yeah, like the cutoff for me on good office episodes is like before although there's some good ones after before like Jim and Pam get married. Although it was maybe dinner party was after that Then it started to fall off I actually don't mind that Without steve corral episode stuff as that Collins the 499 Robert california is kind of I'm always on and off on his character. There's george springer I'm not sure why that was upside down We'll ship it anyway just in case It's a ground that takes diapers tastes like juice Shane bass I think we got an orange paper it looks like orange paper coming up It is kioni cavaco to 25 Red dragon twins Yeah, the dojo is pretty funny too. That's a good one. The the karate teacher is funny in that Gunner Henderson to 125 Miguel Vargas Refractor auto the 499 pulled his red shimmer auto a couple days ago. That's for the Dodgers. That is Matthew s But yeah, I also like the episode where ricky draves is on it as the character he played in uh The u k office and they bump into each other at the intro uh to 150 brady singer I think it's one of the last michael scott episodes Season six or seven Oh, yeah, that's a good one Yes When he's when the asian gym, he's like hey props to you for not seeing color The photos change and everything This is funny when pan punches michael scott out in the parking lot Hey props on you for not seeing color, man And Tranquish on the 499 Robert possum Gotta hit a super fracture. How have we not hit one yet adam hall to 250 I think we've done 20 cases 20 ish which isn't a ton, but I thought for sure we'd hit A super maybe even more than that sam huff Blue to 150 sam huff for the texas rangers Matthew s We got an advert azalea to 25 orange Cubs red dragon got a couple oranges at least Are you sure about that rex even like insert super fractors? Like one of these top 100 super fractors rice lewis atomic Well, yeah, they say the odds but It's also different for hobby and jumbo But like the super fracture parallel On some of them is one in 69,000 some of them is uh one in 438,000 So there's just like different levels. I guess an autograph super fracture the true rookie is definitely Obviously pretty hard Nick madrigal If there's any concrete news you won't know That was a wall I Rich bojarski to 499 Uh sorting we have kind of matthew stumblefield breaking. I don't mind breaking the hardest part is sorting I have only sort of one case We've got orange shimmer Damon jones for the fillies number 25 That is ryan The toughest part about bowman is sorting What me joe and jason do are easy Is easy compared to that It's like an average to sort it and then you got to bag it make sure everyone gets the right stuff Aquino atomic odd out of 100. I feel like this is a really solid case EA with the reds nice one EA Yeah, I saw that um I I know the guy who hit that or not the guy who hit it. Where are they? Or they hit it. I don't know him. I've saw I saw uh him post about it his shop hit it Actually, I'm checking my messages for that On youtube All right last box everybody Oh There's a top loader shortage there's a beckett article about it Yeah I feel like a couple months late to the shortage Now there's a lot of it's like for real time You could say use top loaders on ebay for hundreds of dollars This one's a good one where they do the the game. They try to find the martyrs. It's fun Edwin mccain, yeah, michael scott was singing it because they're wow Dunder mifflin is going under so they're trying to He was listening to the 15 second preview on itunes. Remember they used to do that So he got playing that that that part It would just go ever and then it stopped Um balazzo bitch to 250 twins Aaron shortridge to 299 mingas chrome Come on, let's hit a super fracter here dust may super fracter auto Super come on super I thought it might have been for a minute 93 of 100 atomic. Dustin. That was like all shiny. I was like, oh I thought for a second Dodgers is matthew s So that's our last auto. I feel like a pretty solid case a lot of color Autographs We'll do a recap. I'm just under Looks like An hour on this one. I think it's decent Working hard enough charmin working hard enough charmin.  It's so scratchy. God. These commercials. Come on Niko holes are atomic This commercial stinks. This is a terrible terrible this Thanks You can't they all try to be edgy like the dosakis guy. You can't make a better commercial than dosakis So there you go, everybody here will be the recap video Just recapping the autographs Do you like neon coal and soul spice commercial? Yeah, he's okay We got dust and made a 100 atomic auto A kino auto to 100 Damon jones at 25 at lazade at 25 Sam huff to 150 blue auto refractor auto vargas kivako to 25 queen cotton to 299 De La Cruz to 50 Joan Diaz cold wind to 25 Apostle diran Camposano There's jeremy panier to 75. There's an orange kukuchi and Little to 250 and the big Is this jason demingas 152 or 250? Purple refractor auto J2 jeremy tell me what that so there you go. Thanks everybody for getting in that was the break appreciate it. See y'all next time


Listen to the great rhythms of Freddie Rich and his orchestra, the swingy singing of Connie Haynes.  Hey, Costella, Costella, come here. Where have you been? Hey, wait a minute. And where did you get that suit? It looks like a naval officer's uniform. Oh, a naval officer's uniform! Uh-huh. I should have to tell you, Abbot, I'm gonna join the Merchant Marine. How do you like the fancy uniform?  Wait a minute, Costella. That's a nice uniform, all right? But you've got the pants on backwards. I know. I want to be a rear-admiral. Look, you can't get it in the Merchant Marine. You couldn't pass the physical examination. Who couldn't have it? I walked in a recruiting officer's afternoon, everybody stood up and the captain pointed at me and he said, Boys, there's a whale of a man. The captain said you were a whale of a man? Well, he didn't use them same words. What did he say?  You know, I can hardly wait till I get on my ship, Abbot. Sailing, sailing, over the bounding New Jersey... Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's over the bounding Maine. I come from Paterson, New Jersey. Why should I give a plug to Maine? No, I love plug. Well, there you are. That shows you you know nothing about the sea. You're not a nautical, man. I'm not what? I said you're the, you're the least bit nautical. Oh, I have my moments. Oh, no, you're not. I do, Abbot. I do. And after all, a fella can't be nice-icle all the time. There's no sense-icle and be a nice-icle when you meet a little cuticle who wants to be nautical. What are you talking about? What am I talking about? Yes. Well, last night-icle, I met a cuticle riding a bicycle. I bought her a popsicle, and just as she was going to give me a kiss-icle, a cop-sicle on a motorcycle blew his whizz-icle, and gave me a slap-sicle in a puss-icle, and sent me home-sicle.  What do you mean by coming in here talking about being a sailor? You don't know anything about the sea. Who don't? My whole family were sailors, Abbot. Even my Uncle Artie Stubbins was a sailor. What was his capacity? Five quarts? No, no, no. What did he do as a sailor? He was on a tanker. Where is he now? On a fender? Now, will you be serious, please? Now, take me. Who wants you?  I love the sea. The sea is in my blood. Sailboats, seamboats, rowboats, they're all in my blood. No wonder your skin is so lumpy. Oh, you can joke all you want, but I love the sea. Do you realize that I lived on soft water for 20 years? How can you drink that stuff? Oh, never mind that. The ocean is wonderful. Did you ever see the flying fishes fly? All the leaping tuners leap? Nope, but I saw the dolphin's stout and heard the porpoise's pork. Look, Castella, I'm going to see how much you know about boats. Now, have you ever been down to the docks? Yeah, I was at the docks this morning. Did you see any vessels? Yep, the nurse carried one in. No, no, no. I'm not talking. I'm not talking about that kind of a dock. I'm talking about a wharf. A what? A wharf. Wharf, wharf, wharf. Oh, that's cute, Abbott. Now, give me your paw. No, no, no, no, no, Castella. The wharf is where the boats embark. Do what? Embark, embark. Woof, woof, woof, woof. What are you doing? I didn't know you want to play talking. Oh, Castella, please. I don't think you know anything about boats. Do you know anything about sloops? Oh, I'm crazy about sloops. Nothing like a hot bowl of sloop with plenty of clackers. You dummy, you wouldn't know the difference between a s- I'm starting to talk like Charlie Chan. Listen to me, please. I'm just, I'm just after telling you, you wouldn't know the difference between a sloop and a gunboat. That's what my mother made for lunch. She made what? Chicken gunboat sloop. You please talk sense. Look, how about this boat you're going out on? How fast is it? How fast is it? Yeah, it goes 40 miles an hour. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, you don't mean miles. You mean your boat goes knots. My boat goes knots? Certainly. Every boat goes knots. The faster the engines turn, the more knots you get. And the more you talk, the more knots I get. No. Will you please listen? Knots are nautical miles. For instance, if you ask a sailor how fast a boat is going, he won't say miles to you. He'll say knots to you. And I'll say knots right back to half. Oh, no, you don't. No, no, no, no.  Great guy to have on a boat in case of an emergency. Look, what would you do if you were on a boat and it started leaking in the middle of the night? I'd put a pan under it and go back to bed. No, no, no. Isn't that right? No, certainly not. Suppose there was a big hole in the side of the boat and the water was rushing in. What would you do? I'd pour a hole on the other side and let the water out. You see, there you go again. Why, you don't even know what part of the boat from one part from the other. Oh, yes, I do. Yes, I do. Well, let me see here. Let's see. All right, go ahead. Name the different parts of the boat. Okay, the bow, the bow is the front of the boat. That's right. The stern is the back of the boat and the starboard is on the right side. Yeah, where's the port? In the bottle in the icebox. There you go. I told you, look, look, look, suppose you were out in a boat and a strong east wind came up. What would you do? I'd throw out an anchor. That's right. Now, but suppose a terrific west wind came up. I'd throw out another anchor. But suppose a north wind came up. Then I'd throw out another anchor. Hey, wait a minute. Where are you getting all those anchors? Same place you're getting while I wind.  Thank you, Abbott. And I wish you'd tell that to my Uncle Artie Steppins. Why?  Eddie Ritz with the wonderful arrangement of Sweet Dreams, Sweet Heart. What's the idea of dragging me down here to shipyards? Well, Costello, if you're going into the merchant marines you've got to learn something about boats. Now, is he right over there, tied up to that pier? You see two schooners and a skiff.  What do you mean? He had two schooners and he came home skiff. No. Will you cut that out, please? Hey, Abbott. Abbott. Look, look. There's a boat over there with only top on it. Oh, that's one there just building. That's a hull of a ship. You're telling me. But what kind of a boat is it?  Step aside. We're about to christen a ship. All right, lady. Break that bottle of champagne over the stern. Sorry. In all this fog, I couldn't tell one tub from another. Let me at that day. Get away from there, Costello. It's not her fault. She mistook you for a ship. I hope I didn't hurt you. Oh, no. You didn't. In fact, my boilers in my engine room was flooded. I should let girls around shipyard, Abbott. I'm telling you. Oh, I have a perfect right to be here. It should look like a blood transfusion. All right. Never mind that now. I said that, didn't I? I have a perfect right to be here. In fact, they named this boat after me because I have such graceful lines. My friends tell me I look just like a streamlined ship. Well, don't look now, kid, but your cargo has shifted. Hey, wait a minute. What are you two guys hanging around here for? My friend, Costello here, wants to be a sailor. Oh, he does, huh? Yes.   I'm sorry, Lee. In all this fog, I couldn't tell one old duffel from another. Costello, come on. Let's go. Our singing star now, lovely Connie Haynes in one of today's favorites. I'll be my doom. Let hope to you seem to see birds that fill my heart. Please, let's get going. Come on. Yeah, step right into this office and we'll examine you. Now that's it. Now, uh, open your shirt, Costello, and let me see what kind of a chest you've got. Oh, I couldn't do that. Oh, come on, Costello, open your shirt. Yeah, but I can't. I feel too embarrassed. Embarrassed to show your chest? I forgot the comet this morning. Come on, here, I'll help you off with your shirt. Come on. Hey, you got some nice tattooing there. What's that picture of that lady on your back? Oh, that's Whistler's mother. Whistler's mother? Well, what are those two sailors doing there with her? Those are the guys she whistled at. Well, you seem to be all right physically. Now, just step in the next room and see the officer in charge of personnel. Hi, I am Sugar Andy, and the poof-deck I'm at the Andy. Hey, look, Costello, it's Pencil. There you are, Maggie. Well, well, well, for goodness sake. What can I do for you, boys? I'm in charge of the CBs. CBs? Yeah, CBs. Now, just a second, Costello, what are you doing with your hand? I'm saluting you. That's a very funny salute. Can I help it off my nose, itches? Costello, behave yourself. Kitzel, could you use a man like Costello on one of your ships? Oh, yes, indeedy. You know, I've got a ship leaving tomorrow for the underwear island. The underwear island? Ah-ha, the West Undies.  In the West Undies? I was making shorts. He was making shorts. Oh, I get it. Ha-ha-ha, making shorts. I don't wear them. Now, listen, Kitzel, where else does your boat go? Well, after it leaves the West Undies, it goes to Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Haiti. What comes after Haiti? Haiti one, Haiti two, Haiti three.  What is a no-bab? Spelt backwards, baboon. Who are you calling a baboon in my country? That means fight. Well, in my country, that means fight, too. Well, how do you like that? We're both from the same country. Costello, quit hogging and our Kitzel won't give you a job. Yes, sir, Mr. Costello, and you know I got just a job for you. We are looking for a brave boy like you to fight man-eating sharks in the water. Oh, I'm afraid. I'm afraid. I'm afraid. I'm afraid I couldn't take that job. On account of my middle name is Earl. What's your middle name got to do with it? Earl and water, don't mix.  Why don't you admit that you can't swim? Who can't swim? Every night I go swimming after dinner. You mean you swim on us? A full stomach? No, I swim on my back. Last night I was out swimming in the ocean. I saw a school of whales swimming eight feet above the water. Now just a second, just a second. How could a school of whales swim eight feet above the water? This was a high school. I couldn't take a high school where we're going to see how much you know about swimming. I challenge you to a swimming race right now. You are, Costello. Kitzel is calling you bluff. All right, Kitzel, tell you what I'll do. Do you see that little red light way out in the water? Oh, yes. Well, we'll swim out of that red light in back. And the guy who makes it in the fastest time wins. Okey-dokey, I'll go for you. Go ahead. Well, there he goes, Costello. He's swimming straight for the red light. You'd better be ready to try it when Kitzel gets back. Kitzel ain't coming back. Isn't coming back? What do you mean? That red light is on the back end of a boat going to China. Tonight, Connie Haines sings a beautiful ballad. I'm making believe. I'm making believe that you're in my arms though I know you're so far away I'm making believe I'm talking to you if you could hear in the gloom like we used to do so till my dreams come true goodnight making believe you're in my arms making believe if you could hear what you used to do Costello, this is ridiculous. We've been rowing around in this harbor in the dock for over an hour. They've chased you off every ship. Nobody wants to hire you as a sailor and besides, I'm very hungry. Oh, here's a bottle of milk. Catch yourself a fish. What kind of a fish could I catch with a bottle of milk? Catfish. Oh, look, let's go back to shore. Not me, Abbott. I'm going to every boat in this harbor until I get a job. Hey, hey, look. There's a boat bearing down on us now. Can you spare a dime for a cup of coffee? A dime for a cup of coffee? Who are you? Oh, just a tramp steamer. Here's a quarter of an isle. Go scutting yourself, will you?   What rip? Your coat is gone. Then you better grab me by the shirt. What rip? Your shirt is gone now. I'll grab you by the trousers. I'm afraid to ask. What's coming off down below? You'd be surprised. Better get you aboard. Never mind aboard. Give me a barrel. Stand by below. I'm sending down my first mate. Put something around me. Abbott, quick. His wife is coming down. Ahoy up there. Don't bother sending down your first mate. All right. I'll send down my second mate. How do you like that? The guys are pigamists. Don't send down your second mate either. How about the third mate? The guys got three mates. What is this? To see a mat for money. Go ahead, Costello. Climb aboard. Well, welcome to the SS Sponge. This sponge is soaked. Hey, you must be our new Admiral. Just a minute, Captain. Wait a minute. Quiet, quiet. What's the matter? Abbott, this guy thinks I'm an admiral. This is my big chance to run my own ship. Take it easy. Here I go. Watch me put it on. Take it easy. Go ahead. Crank up the ship. Let's get started. Put it in gear. Oh, but sure. You can't start the ship until you get steam up. I'll get steam up. Hey, steam.  Anything else, sir? Yeah. Batten down the hatches.  Batten them down again. We'll show those hatches. Wait a minute, Costello. You can't make this ship go until you weigh the anchor. Okay, Abbott. Bring me the scales. No. Before you start, Costello, you'd get all your hands on deck. Get what? Your hands. Where are your hands? In my pocket, ya dope. Costello, what about the weather? Did you get the weather forecast? The what? The weather forecast. How do you find the weather? I opened the window, and there it was. No. This is serious, Costello. Suppose we run into a storm. Oh, I don't think we'll have a storm. How about a shower? Take one if you think you need it. Oh. And I think you need it. Yeah, never mind. I think we both need it. All right. Come on, Costello. Let's go up on the captain's bridge. Honest what? That thing over there is the captain's bridge. For goodness sakes, how did you get that big thing in his mouth? Pardon me, sir, but we'd better not set sail. The barometer is falling. Let's pick it up and let's get going. A bass, you slobs, swabs, change sail, raise the gypsail, lower the sheets and change the bedspreads. Well, we're moving, Costello. Isn't this wonderful? Here we go over the bounding waves. Up and down. Up and down. Are you psychic? No, I'm seasick. Ah, you'll be all right in a minute.  Hey, Evan. What? Isn't the air wonderful? What's that little coop up on top of the ship? That's the crow's nest. The crow's nest? Let's go up and take a peek at the little darlings. Oh, please, please. There are no crows up there. Then what are those big birds flying around up there? Those are gulls. How can you tell the gulls from the boys? No. Come on, please, Costello, please. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I mean, I want to climb up in that crow's nest and gather some eggs. There are no eggs in that crow's nest. There must be a couple of them just dropped after that last gag. Look, please, forget about the egg. I wish I was an egg. What do you mean? Now take it easy. Resuscitation. Now wait a minute. Resuscitation. Just a minute, look. Now be careful what you're saying.  When you'd walk by, I'd break myself and splatter thee with me. Some yolk. Yes, plenty. Costello, please, cut that kind of stuff out. Well, I think I'll go below and get something to eat. Well, where do I eat? Well, you can mess with the captain's wife. Not me. I ain't messing with nobody's wife. Oh, pardon me, sir. We'll have to turn back. We're going to run into a squall. Costello, look. Something looming up ahead of us in the fog. Yes. He's trying to run into us. Yes. Hide in me. Costello, you'd better let me take that wheel before we're all killed. Don't you get worried, Abbott. Don't you worry. I can steer this boat. I know every rock along this coast. That must be a strange one. Hey. Costello. What? I think you struck a reef. A what? Reef, reef. You were barking much better in the first spot. Right. Hey, we're moving again. Look out, Costello. There's a little fishing boat dead ahead. Press your clams at 25 cents a dozen. Press your clams at 25 cents a dozen. Climb a child at 10 cents a bowl. Clackers, I'm in a sloop again. Singing star Connie Haynes has already musically tell us, is you is or is you ain't, my baby? Come on, God. I got a man anytime, but I love just to get it straight, cause I want him. Creature that has always been strange. Just when you're sure of one you'll find he's gonna make a change. Is you ae my baby when somebody new? Man is a creature who's always been strange. When you're sure of one you'll find he's gonna make a change. And I'll hear our bud and Lou back with a final word. Say, Costello. Yeah. Did you know that your kid brother Sebastian was sitting in the control room all through the show tonight? Yeah. What's he doing in there? I'm gonna find out. Hey, Sebastian! Come on out here. I'm gonna ask you guys to do me a favor. Well, what's on my mind? I mean, what's on your mind? Yeah, but if I'm gonna play these double parts, I want more money. Come on, Sebastian. What do you want? Well, Uncle Bud, I'm thinking of starting a program on my own. And I got a couple of good guys to help me do it. Midgey Shields and Tommy Lam. And we want to put on a nice program. Now, you know all the big shots on radio. You can help me. Well, we'd like to help you, Sebastian, but really, we don't know anybody. Don't give me that. I heard this program tonight. You must know somebody. Now, look, Sebastian, I'm surprised at you to think that you would come out here on this microphone and deliberately try to discredit the acting ability of your brother Lou and myself. How can you be so ungrateful? What in the world is the matter with you? Tonight, folks!


Aloha, and welcome to What's on Your Mind Hawaii. I'm Tim Apachele, your host. The title for today's show is Five Ways to Clean Up the Money in Our Politics. We've all heard the saying, money is the root of all evil. But in fact, the real verse is, the love of money is the root of all evil.  Specifically, if you want to win an election, you are going to need a truckload of money. And it doesn't matter if you're a Republican, Democrat, or independent candidate. You're going to have to love raising money and spend a good part of your day doing it. Many Americans feel and believe that government is beyond their influence because they don't have thousands of dollars to contribute. And therefore, their ability to lobby for policy changes is left only for the rich and large corporations. In the past, we've seen successful efforts to reform money contributions. The 2002 McCain Fine Gold Act comes to mind. Thanks to this act, we had better disclosure where the money was coming from, and that soft money had its limits. Fast forward to 2009, when the Supreme Court decision of Citizens United versus the Federal Election Commission turned our election campaign funding laws upside down and inside out. Our guest today is former US Representative Ed Case, who served the state well from 2002 to 2007. Representative Case recently wrote an excellent editorial in the Star Advertiser on January 7, outlining ill effects of money in our political system, and more importantly, pointed out five steps that can be implemented to reverse it. Thank you very much for coming on our show and coming on to a watch on your Mind Hawaii. Yeah, it's great to be on. Thank you for having me. I read your editorial, and I thought, boy, what a great topic, particularly in this day and age, and particularly given our last election, presidential election, and where we are now with the state constitution discussions. So well placed, well timed, and thought it was very well written. So thank you. Well, thank you very much. There's a lot of people in the country who care very much about this issue today. It's interesting. You take a look at what we all think of our government. And of course, we're at an all-time low. Some of them for just political reasons, kind of the cycle of politics in and out. But it's really what is really concerning our two things. First of all, the long-term ebb and public confidence in government, and more specifically, from my perspective, in the United States government and in the US Congress, where I was very privileged to serve Hawaii for five years. That confidence has been going down rapidly. I think when I was in Congress, and that was only about 10 years ago, public confidence was at an all-time low of about 25%. Now we're down to 15%. Maybe even lower. That's the number of people that have any real confidence in our government. Now I can tell you that there's a lot of people inside the Beltway in Washington that have a lot of confidence in government, because government's doing what they want. So what we're really talking about is what everybody else in this country feels. And what is of greatest concern, which is why I wrote this editorial, is not just the dysfunction in government, not just the inability of government today to get past the partisan divide, not just the deepening and broadening and angst and anger of that divide today. It is really something deeper. It's something that's nonpartisan, and it has to do with a basic increased conviction by many people that the actual system itself is broken. So we're not just talking about Republicans and Democrats fighting, we're talking about whether we can actually get our government to respond to us anymore because of the influence of money and politics. Let me touch on that one point, the erosion of confidence from the American public. And I have to ask the question, did that assist and aid in the election of Donald Trump? Specifically over two issues. One was his promise to drain the swamp. But two, the allure that I'm not receiving campaign funding from lobbyists in big money, I'm using my own funds to basically pay for my election expenses to become President of the United States. Did that, do you think those two points had an allure for not maybe for the independence of this country or maybe even middle of the road Democrats? Well, I don't think about it in partisan terms. I think that many, many of the elections today, not just in the federal side, but in the state governments as well. And this is proving out all across the country. They're not about Republican versus Democrat. They're really about insider versus everybody else, about outsiders that feel that they have no place in government anymore. So you talk about President Trump, but I could just as easily give you the example of Senator Sanders who was running the same campaign as Donald Trump, but on the other side of the partisan divide. So why did the two of them really overcome so many of the naysayers, so much of the inside political judgment about how they were gonna do? One of them, of course, won the presidency. Another one came pretty darn close to winning a Democratic primary. They was given no chance of winning. Why? Well, I think it's very, very obvious and you can't reach a different conclusion that that was driven by a large part by what I talked about earlier was just a lack of faith and an erosion of confidence in the system as at least its practice inside of Washington today. Describe the ill effects as you see it, of money or too much money in politics. Well, let's start with a basic. And I always wanna go back to this at the very beginning. I don't believe, and I don't think most Americans believe that lobbying itself is wrong. In fact, if I wanna go down and petition my government, that's one of the basic rights that we have, the ability to petition our government, that's lobbying. And I never minded when I was an elected official for 12 plus years, if somebody came to ask me or tell me what they thought I should do or what we should do. And it didn't affect me particularly whether they were paid or not to do that. It was my job to make the decision. It was their job to try to convince me. And so I think that lobbying itself is a right and we don't wanna get rid of lobbying. I also think that it's my right to contribute to my candidates and to my members of Congress if I want. And that's never been an issue. So this is not about the basic right to lobbying and money. This is about an over influence by both inside of government today. And the ill effect can be seen in a lot of different ways. One of the obvious ways that I wrote about in my editorial is that you have members of Congress going back to Washington and we're supposed to be going back there to legislate. We're supposed to be going back there to study policy and to hear from people on what the right decision is and to sit through committee hearings and try to grind out the compromises that are necessary for our government to work. And that's all takes a lot of time and hard work and energy. And that's what you should be doing in Washington, D.C. But increasingly because of the drive of money and politics and the drive to get money and spend it in campaigns, you find legislators that are going back there as I was when I first went back there. And I went back there 15 years ago now. And the advice to me was, OK, when you're on the ground in Washington, you should spend 25% to 50% of your time not legislating but raising money and talking to lobbyists who have a lot of money to contribute to you. So every Wednesday morning, every Wednesday afternoon, you go down to the local call center and just dial for dollars. That's a day taken away from legislating. That's not a lot of fun, is it? I'd rather sell in psychopedias back in 1958 door to door than dialing for dollars for a political campaign. I don't really know of that many members of Congress who like doing it. It's more a matter of how much can you tolerate it. I mean, some run for the hills from it and some are quite good at it. And I'm somewhere in between, I guess. I have had no problem calling up people and asking them to contribute to me. But when I'm doing that all of the time, when I'm forced to do that all the time, then that's a problem. The second problem, of course, is simply that that money is going in somewhere. That money does not come free. That money comes with expectations, with preferences. And it's absolutely inescapable that if you have too much money, you're going to get influenced the wrong way. I don't think people understand to what degree that pressure of influence, what the form of that looks like, specifically. And we all know that there's lobbyists, and lobbyists have influence and requests. But how does it come about? How does it actually meet your desk and? Well, let's say that let's just take a fairly blatant example. Probably one of the best systematic and deepest pocketed and deepest influenced lobbying groups is the pharmaceutical industry, Big Pharma. Big Pharma just throws out a ton of money on both sides of the aisle. Now, every once in a while, an issue comes along that that's their number one issue. You can take Medicare reform when I was there, health care reform. You can absolutely bet that there are special provisions in that bill that wouldn't have been there if that money had not been contributed. Do they write legislation, and then politicians review it and say, yeah, I change this or change that? Do they actually take the authorship of legislation? No, I mean, they don't take authorship, but they offer what they think should be the legislation. And I don't have a problem with that, by the way. I don't have a problem with somebody coming to me and saying, hey, I'm trying to achieve X, and here is some language that would achieve it. I have no problem with that. It's not my job to just accept that carte blanche. So if you're a legislator that is accepting that carte blanche, then I say that that's wrong. But if I'm taking it and sifting it and saying, OK, do I agree with this? Is there better way of doing it? I got no problem with that. It's the system itself that presents the problem, because when you spend all of your time responding to the pressures of political fundraising and money, and when you spend all of your time dealing with the lobbyists who contribute money inside of Washington as opposed to worrying about what's going on in the rest of the country, and when the system is responsive only to big money, that's when we have a problem. And that's the problem today. Just big money.  Well, the implicit threat is always there. How do they suggest it implicitly? You know, the great lobbyists, they never suggest it. I mean, they're just too smart to do that. But hey, come the next campaign, the next election, you voted against them. Well, you might find that you're not getting a contribution from them anymore. It's very subtle. I mean, I can count on one hand the number of overt threats I got. What did that feel like? What did that sound like? Get out of my office is the way I felt about it.  So you've actually received, if you don't do this, I will do this. Very, very, very few times. So I don't want to represent it like that. It doesn't go down the way that most people think. It's a lot more subtle. It's a lot more indirect. But the influence is there and the responses to the pressure valves that are there. I want to read a quote from Senator McCain, John McCain's 2002 memoir. And I think he used to be a big leader in campaign reform. And this was interesting. I didn't have the whole entire quote, but it says, by the time I became a leading advocate of campaign finance reform, I had come to appreciate that in politics, suspicions were not always mistaken. Money does buy access in Washington, DC. And access increases the influence that often results in the benefit of a few versus the expense of the many. Well, that's fundamentally how most of us feel right now is that we don't have a seat at that table, that the decisions that are made are only really explainable if you explain them as decisions tailored to a very small group and very influential group and almost always a large money group. And that has been what has driven the confidence in our government to a low. And my problem and the problem of other former members that I've joined with in the Reformers Caucus to try to show the light on this a little bit more is that it's one thing to have the problem of dysfunction, but we always have believed that our democracy was strong enough to right itself. That our democracy, like a ship and a storm, it would come back to an even keel or it'd be inclined to an even keel. It'd be corrective action that could be taken by the American people, the American voters, to rise up and say that they didn't like what was going on and that you would have on occasion political revolutions over non-responsiveness from government. And the problem here is, for the first time in my life, I question whether the circuit is so closed that it's very, very difficult to. It's not going to be solved simply by electing some more Democrats or more Republicans. That's not the solution. You belong to a group which we want to talk about right after this break called Reformers Caucus. And so we're going to take that break. I'm Tim Appichelle with Former Congressman Ed Case. And we'll be right back. I'm going to the game, and it's going to be great. Early arrive and for a little tailgate. I usually drink, but we'll be drinking today because I'm the designated driver, and that's OK. It's nice to be the guy that keeps his friends in line, keeps them from drinking too much so we can have a great time. A little responsibility can go a long way because it's all about having fun on game day. I'm the guy you want to be. I'm the guy, say good morning. I'm the guy with the age that says, let's go. My name is Mark Shklav. I'm the host of Think Tech Hawaii's Law Across the Sea. Law Across the Sea comes on every other Monday at 11 AM. Please join us. I like to bring in guests that talk about all types of things that come across the sea to Hawaii, not just law, love, people, ideas, history. Please join us for Law Across the Sea, aloha. Welcome back to What's On Your Mind Hawaii. I'm Tim Apachele, your host, and I'm here with former congressman Ed Case. And we're talking about money and politics. And before the break, Congressman Case basically was talking about a group that he belongs to called Reformers Caucus. And so Ed, would you kind of talk about that group and its mission and where it's been and where it's going? Sure. Well, the Reformers Caucus is an organization of now almost 200 former members of Congress and governors who all feel the same way about how Washington is working and the decline in confidence by the American people in Washington generally and in Congress specifically. And so a couple of years ago, really, this group started to coalesce around the idea that this was issue one. And we call it issue one. And all of what I'm talking about here can be found on a website, which is issueone.org. And we believe that issue one is money and politics. And we believe that issue one is the reforms that are necessary to try to curb the excesses that we believe have occurred and the damage to the country that has occurred as a result. And so this is a very fascinating caucus. Many of the people in this caucus, you would readily recognize people like former Senator Bill Bradley, some of the real lights of the House, some others like me who. Former Speaker Tom Daschle, I believe is part of that. Majority Leader Tom Daschle on the Senate side and many House members and governors on both sides, by the way. So if you take a look at the political spectrum of the members of this caucus, you'll go from far left to far right. How long has this caucus been in? Couple of years now. It is growing. More and more former members are joining it. I think it's about half-half Republican-democratic at this point. And we're doing what I'm doing here. We are trying to highlight the issue back in our home states or elsewhere. We are trying to encourage the Congress itself to do some common-sense reforms that we think will assist the process. And so we're using, I guess, the bully pulpit of our former offices to the extent that any of us have that bully pulpit to try to tell the American people that, hey, you're not alone. A lot of people that were there inside feel the same way. What is the reception that this caucus is receiving? Specifically, are you getting airtime on media avenues? Increasingly, increasingly, yes. And the caucus has now morphed a little bit into the next stage, which is a more active presence inside of Washington. So for example, the caucus, together with other like-minded groups and people, will put on presentations and conferences. There's a conference coming up, for example, in March, where many members of the caucus will come. And the media is paying more attention to this reform effort, because first of all, it's incredibly unusual to have a caucus like this around any issue. I really can't believe it. I've never really heard of it. And I'm going to assume that you haven't hired a lobbying effort to lobby the existing Congress. Well, there are people that are not former members that are part of issue one that are dedicated to this particular issue. And again, there's the example right there. There's nothing wrong with any of us lobbying Congress to try to get congressional reform of lobbying. That's fine. That's fine. That's not a contradiction. I mean, you've already done that, because you just told me before we went on air that actual existing members right now have formed their own caucus. And what has happened is the result. Well, what is, and just in the past couple of months, we've seen the formation of a caucus inside of Congress, so consisting of current members of Congress that agree with us and that are willing to introduce bills that will implement the policy directions that we want to take to try to reform the system. That caucus is a very small caucus so far. And in all honesty, that tells a little bit of a story, because we as former members are not in there. We're not having to go chase bucks and deal with lobbyists. And so to some extent, we have the freedom of expression. But inside Congress, of course, you're still reliant on that system for the money to win your reelection. And you mentioned the freedom to kind of opine about things that you normally wouldn't be able to do. It's a great, it's a great. I'm looking at Senator Flake. I'm looking at other Republicans that have decided not to run again. And yet now, their opinions about things are far more, how should I say, aggressive about what they feel and what they believe than before they were going to try to get re-elected. Yeah, and that's a little bit of the tragedy of the system in a way, because the system does tend to get you to stifle yourself a little too. If I look back at my time in office and focusing on Congress a little bit more, because I was quite outspoken as a state representative here in Hawaii. But as a member of Congress, I was a little more careful to be measured in my criticism and tones. And part of that was just learning my way in the system and trying to make sure that I was critiquing the right things. And part of it was that one of my jobs was to obtain what Hawaii needed. And that didn't take standing on the floor of the House and screaming. But I tell you, if I had to do it over again, I think I'd be a little bit more vocal. I think you could have your cake and eat it too. I was going to say, if there's an effort from the memberships of about 20 congressmen right now, and I'm sure it's going to grow, I hope it does. But given the reluctance to be a little bit more outspoken, what's the chances of success of legislation moving forward that would limit the power of lobbyists? I think the funny thing about reform is, and I've been through various types of reform in my legislative career, you think about reform as kind of this gradual process. That's not how reform happens. Reform is like a lurch every once in a while. It's like a rubber band. It builds up. But then sometimes it just snaps. And then you have the opportunity for reform. You talked about Senator McCain earlier, McCain fine gold. And you rightly recited it as an incredible leap forward in terms of campaign finance reform. If you had asked anybody six months before that happened, whether it was going to happen, they would have said, I doubt it. So that snapped like that. So I'm hoping that by building this pressure from the outside, we are hoping, by building, by people, for example, here in Hawaii, who might watch this show, calling up our members of Congress and saying, hey, I heard about this reformer's caucus. I really want you to support it. And we've got a full year of candidates here, including a first congressional seat. If that's an issue in that election that it's talked about and the candidates have to deal with it and commit to it, then that's a small success. So the five points that you mentioned in an editorial of how some reforms could look like, did that come as a result of the caucus, the reformed caucus? Or is that just kind of something you believe strongly in? No, I think we all got on the same page. We all agreed. We all believe in a fairly common message. And we believe that there are categories that we have to deal with in order to achieve reform. But let's look at some of those categories. I think the one that caught my, well, they're really very basic principles, but the impact is very, very powerful. And I think the one is everyone participates. And that's quite a concept. I mean, that's not happening. We're at 15% confidence of the American public because they don't feel they have a voice. Right, so there's a number of principles here. Everybody participates. Everybody knows. Everybody plays by the same rules. Everybody is held accountable, and everybody has a voice. Those are kind of the categories. And they're common sensical. But to tick off some of the realities and what we hope to achieve in those areas, everybody participates is about, hey, the system is being overwhelmed by big contributions. Small contributions just get lost in the shuffle.  Because, again, you have examples from the last campaign where small donors really wrote a lot of the books on these, so it can work. Senator Bernie Sanders' campaign really was a lot of our small donations. Senator Sanders funded an entire successful, even though he- Did you find that surprising that he was that successful? I did not. The reason is because of what we talked about quite early, because I think that there is just a building, frustration in the country by most of us that's directed against the inside of the Beltway. And so I think that outside candidates at both the federal and the state level have a lot more of a chance today. People give them a lot better look. So he just happened to be in some sense- In the right place, in the right time. Exactly. Senator Clinton, for all her incredible achievements, was painted as that insider. And she had the access to a lot of these institutional dollars, if you will. Well, she was the benefit of big money. There's no question about that. Everybody knows, to me, this is probably one of the most important parts of our package, because we don't know today who is contributing. The transparency issue. Absolutely. Transparency is a critical- Which was overturned by Citizens United versus the Federal Election Committee, right? Well, what has really happened here is that, if you want to go back and say, okay, what's the right system here? What balances our right to lobby and our right to contribute against the problems of excesses of lobbying, excesses of contributions? And what you will find pretty fast, and we've already done this in McCain, we find gold and other laws, is reasonable limits and full disclosure. That's really what it comes down to. That you can contribute, but you can't overwhelm the system. And the U.S. Supreme Court has said it's completely legal to have reasonable limits. That's never been questioned. Transparency that if I contribute, everybody knows that I contributed. And that's an incredible problem right now. Citizens United basically stood for the proposition that corporations in their own right can contribute. Now I disagree with Citizens United, but it, so the problem there is that there's no limitation on corporate contributions, which wipes out most of the American people. The real problem is the combination of Citizens United with dark money, soft money. I wanted to get into all that and unfortunately we're running out of time. And I also wanted to talk about the ill effects of Citizens United Supreme Court decision. And I'd love to have you back on the show again to talk more specifically to those points. We have run out of time. I can't thank you enough for coming on the show. And I wish you very much success, not only with the caucus, but your other endeavors trying to reform our system. And we all tip of the hat to you. So thank you so much for coming on our show. Not just one person. It's 200 right now and another 20. 250 million people need to say this is, you know. Okay, thank you so much. I'm Tim Apachele. This is What's On Your Mind Hawaii. And I'm here with former congressman Ed Case. Aloha.


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