The following is a presentation of TFNN Trade what you see With Larry Pezzavento Call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER> Now Larry Pezzavento Okay, looking good Billy Ray feeling good Lewis. We're gonna go down memory lane today folks Norm was gonna Norm winsky was gonna be our guest today, but he's got internet problems He's gonna join us at 1130 to give his Super Bowl predictions that have been about 90% right So we'll see what he has to say, but the first chart I posted in the room I posted a link for this episode that I'm talking about here Peter Lighty's has put a YouTube video out talking about the relationships between 1929 1987 and where we are today I wanted to share those with you because it's a part and part of the history I met Peter in 1965 at the Clayton brokerage That was the only player was only two places a trade commodities in Los Angeles at the time It was mad of commodities downtown and then out at Westwood by UCLA was a Clayton brokerage in the Howard use building Right next door to UCLA also in that room, of course was Jim 20 men Rick Barnes Ricky the rocket Barnes Roy Fassel Eddie Horowitz Eddie Horowitz was an attorney also was my one of my dearest friends and he lived in the same building That Peter lived in it was a beautiful condo building on Kohanga Boulevard in North Hollywood And they lived on the top floor and Peter was a magician He played the piano and the clarinet at the bars around the LA area, and he was very very popular And Peter he I know you he's 87 now, but at one time this guy he was in a dunas. Let me tell you he's about six two and He is very very athletic had beautiful black curly hair. He was Greek He had a smile that lit up the room. He had a personality that did the same He's about as humble as human being that you ever want to meet And if you will take a look at that video that I posted in there the YouTube video just look for Peter I'd eat stock market cycles There is no person on the planet folks And I'm including myself in this group here that has studied the stock market more than Peter He has something that I'm going to get a picture and show it to you It is a picture of the Dow Jones industrial average from 1951 or 52 I believe rolled forward on a thing that looks like a Torah I mean, he's kept it and he's logged in logarithmic that when it really got crazy But he still keeps it to this day and that's over 50 years and it must weigh 30 or 40 pounds But it's rolled up and each day he marks it by hand and still keeps it to this day But what he's showing you here This is the 1929 crash on September the 3rd We made the top in 38 days We had the new moon and then the market broke down and it rallied back up And then it started down really substantially on the full moon following and that was at 38 days That's the key and guess what yesterday was boys and girls Yesterday was a 38th day. I'll show you these figures with two two thousand two ten 22 was a 38 day and it didn't act very well did it? So we got to watch this full moon coming up next week, which is I believe on Norm's birthday the 16th or so it's on the 16th Norm's birthday is the 17th. So watch that we want to watch it very very carefully here now Hold on just a second here. We want to be looking what's going on here with these market There's so various folks that you just can't believe it. I posted a major cell signal this morning But this is that's what he's looking at now. This is what I'm going to do I'm going to go back into history to show you because he was you know Peter was part of this history in the United in Los Angeles because there was not much there You know back in the 60s when when Conti commodity came in in 1969 a lot of the people moved over and then later Clayton brokerage closed the place, but that's what got this whole thing started now I I was a part of that a very small part because I was a Drexel, but that wasn't until 1976 But I was trading at Conti from I started yes 68 through 72 and then Yes, 72 76 is when I switched over to no was it 74 74 is when I switched over to Maddoff and then for I was there two years and then I went to work for Drexel But let me show you the relationships of what we're looking at here. Let me go Let me show you here. Here's here's part of my history. I'll give you a little heads up on this Okay, I wrote this book astro cycles a trader's handbook back in early 1987 and it was right right after the crash. This was part of it I mean I wrote this book in early August of that year early August like the first or second and It was published right after the high was made on the 25th of August 1987 when we had five planets lined up This was one of those stelliums that Chains showed us about you know, were they all planets lined up. This is like we had in March of 1989 March of 2009 Anyway, the market broke down and I was a guest because Bill Griffith was on KW I think it was FNN FNN in Los Angeles was a number 101 on the channel It was on it all it was on it one Most of the day But one o'clock was the key time when Jean Morgan came on and Bill Griffith interviewed people and Bill was very interested in Astrology, so he had me on he had arch on on the same week, too And the market had broken and it was coming in to September which was the solar eclipse down there near the bottom of that chart that you're looking at right here And I told Bill I said Bill sometime during the month of October we're going to see a drop in the Dow Jones of more than 300 points in one day because the highest That we'd ever had before was 191 points was our biggest swing up or down So all I did was multiply that times one point six one eight and make the prediction at some time It would be down three hundred dollars. Well or three hundred dollars per Unit and that's exactly what happened So that that day that I did that I sold over I sold over ten thousand dollars with the books of the Astrocycles the traders viewpoint just in that what that two-day period that I was on But let me show you this is what this is what I was what I was showing him And this is all now. This is later because I have updated and everything So let me get this thing up here so we can all take a look at it You'll be able to see it here. I got this from somebody else by the way that did it for me But you'll notice here. There was the high in the Dow Jones on August the 25th at 20,000 I think at 2725 was the high and that that was the one we had the harmonic convergence five planets together Then we came down to the low that next low was the solar eclipse and the solar eclipse rallied up into the new moon And that was on August the second of 20 of 1987 okay now that was a 61% retracement of that high on that day I bought October options options that were way out of the money because remember these are big swings But you know nothing like we're seeing right now. We've done that we've done that two or three times already today But on that day on August the second October the second I put those options on I paid almost nothing for them And I thought they would go down below the previous week's low down about oh Maybe 60 Dow points was all I needed. I was doing S&P of course But this was the Dow and that would have done what I wanted them to do I held them and you notice the options expired on the fifth 16th of October right on the low the Dow was down a hundred and four points that day and I had made a huge I was so happy. I couldn't believe it. Well happiness ended on Monday morning when I realized if I had about November options I could have multiplied what I made by a hundred times. That's how that's how much that was We'll get back to more of this history stuff because two reasons one I like it and two always follow reason number one. 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You were born to be TFNN educating investors Toll-free at 1-877-927-6648 internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER> Okay, folks I posted the e-mini SMP here now and you'll notice here We had the beautiful three drive to a top there. You can see it a bcd coming in there on January the 4th Guess how many days it was from the 4th until yesterday folks 38 days just like it was in 1929 and just like it was in 1987 now I want everybody to raise their hand they can remember that okay They nobody out there that keeps this kind of stuff Only people that look at this kind of stuff will keep it, you know, but you know You don't see much of it on the internet I don't post it on the internet because most people don't believe it and it's not worthy of You know me wasting my time to do that I've asked one of the one of the things I called Peter last night and I told him how much I enjoyed it And I said how about coming on my coming on the radio show? He said Larry unlike you He said I hired a business agent 22 years ago and he said I can't walk across the room without his permission He said I'll check and see if I can make an allowance this time. He said but that's okay So I that's all right, too I'm not I'm not worried too much about that, but I would like to have him on he's very very personable and boy You'll never find anybody More humble than that I was when I gave that speech in Los Angeles for the foundation for the study of psychos in 1992 when they moved their office down there their new spaceship type office Peter was there as a guest and We had a nice chat and a glass of wine and we were joking about it Then when I made the mistake of marking on the the screen with the indelible pencil He he got a kick out of that and he said well, he said that's a new one for me. Anyway, gosh I'll tell you it's just so many memories when I was watching this video I said I have to share some of the things with you regarding TFNN Let's try it again Larry FNN in Los Angeles It was started by Glenn Taylor and Merrill Lynch in a joint venture and it stayed together until Merrill Lynch pulled out They pulled out of the thing and then it sort of folded and that was in the 1990 I think it was 1991 and guess what happened Suherara went to to New York to NBC to try to resell that program because we had really good Really good ratings in the Los Angeles area. We just couldn't get any advertisers and so CNBC Said yep I think that's what we're going to do and they started the CNBC and that was it and she made history and That was good. She and Glenn Taylor were an item at one time until Sue met my good friend Jay Crospin then they became an item, but those are days my guys those history days I can't remember. Anyway, let's move on now That was the same thing now if we move on to this and we'll take a look at this This is what we're watching right here and this is something It's interesting too because you'll notice here on March the 4th If you calculate the number of days in this that means on March 4th There's going to be a significant bottom in the stock market in 1987 that was the single best buying Opportunity of the 1980s that was an exact to the tick I mean you couldn't shade it with a razor blade of a 61% retracement from the August 9th 1982 in the stock market I defy you to go back and look at that and prove it to yourself if you want to believe in Fibonacci numbers, okay? So that's what we're looking here We got a possibility of a big move down which will flee some great buying opportunities One thing we know is that the volatility is going to go wacko. It's already going wacko It's going to go wacko squared So just get ready folks because this is a wild puppy that's out there and it's just now You know remember we're in the year of the tiger and the tiger likes to rowl at TFN So that's going to be a really big one to remember now. Is this going to happen? Nobody knows that all we're doing is saying take a look at the numbers if this market closes sharply higher today Strongly indicative that that's not going to happen. Look at this at the comparison here This was done way back when by somebody I kept it just to just to show the relationships You can see the relationship between 1987 and 1929 He's got it as 55 days Peter had it as 56 But that it's it's only one day off. So it's really not much difference But you can see what's going on you can see the same type of pattern unfolding now only pattern recognition people people will Look at this boys and girls, you know, that's what I think anyway, and I don't know That's just what I'm showing you today I want to give you a rough example of it and I'm also going to give you a Little bit of a caveat hold on one second. I want to get it right here. Where's old caveat? Charlie caveat. Where are you? Charlie? Here you are. This is the first one right here This is from the the the economics magazine When the ride ends what would happen if the stock market crashed this was done on the 10th of The 10th of February the 12th of February just well that's coming out now This is the week the tweets of February 12th of the 18th when you see stuff like that That means it's not going to happen So that's a big caveat on here the close of they will be very important. We close really bad The odds favor like Louis Pasteur said chance favors the prepared mind So, you know sort of sort of be prepared with this because I think it's got a really important thing to To happen if in course it does I want to give you a couple other caveats here. This has happened before this was done I found this I saved this just in case it worked and of course it didn't But here's look at the relationship we had in 1987 to what we had back in 2017 and what did the Dow do It just kept Tragment along didn't it okay a little bit different than what we're looking at right now because we're looking at two sets of data sequences 38 days and 56 days the problem is we've only got two samples That's another giant problem So the main thing here is what will close how it closes today if the stocks close really strong You'll have to think well, maybe we're wrong on this but the key day was yesterday That was the 38th day that was similar the difference here Let me show you the difference here from what what we were looking at in 1987 and this is what shane is looking at These are the astral things we had the big harmonic convergence right at the top the market came down to the solar eclipse and then right up into the 618 retracement, which was a venus squared Uranus And remember the venus squared Uranus is the Fibonacci cycle because the venus takes 256 days to go around the earth which is 0.6 exactly 0.618 of a year And so that's what happened and what do you want to watch for is the key coming down in about You know six or seven days, which would be early next week. We got a holiday on the On the 22nd So uh, that'll that'll be long before this happens because by this happens We should be sharply lower by the 22nd And uh, if that's the case, so it's the the time the timing is there whether it's going to work or not You know, I don't really know we've got uh, george from tampa florida George, how are you? Told you fine. How are you doing today? I'm very good my friend. What can I do for you today? I'm looking at getting into you and j for trade. I mean you and g excuse me. Okay natural gas Yes, okay. And so matter of fact I wanted to I thought about it Okay, I have some thoughts about it. Sometimes my thoughts are not right. I've got a chart here unless I was so focused on the Stock market today that I uh I've got it right here. Okay.  You'll be able to see it now. This is a It's only a 15 minute chart, but it covers the last days down these really strong days We made a perfect retracement at uh 402 which we hit 404 I believe but 402 404 was a 382 We've now come down and we've tested the 390 again george If you get above if you're going to buy it, uh, I would wait three days And the reason why is this stock market has a chance chance to really get salt and peppered So give yourself the weekend. Okay to think about it I was trying to get in at like 12, uh 98 right in that area. Where is it now? Uh 13 Wait wait wait three days george. Okay wait three days Okay, thank you. 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I wanted to get the copper first hold on. I want to talk about copper somebody asked about copper here You notice here that we had this really nice 78 percent level We went about two cents above it then we had a pretty sharp break in here Copper is known as dr. Copper with the stock market So if copper is going to be good get ready because it could really move to the upside Okay now the next one that uh, someone's asked about and folks before I get to that Oh, here's the question they asked about hot hot hold on this might be mr. Norm calling in now Guess who we have on the line boys and girls none other than he calls it to the minute Mr. Norm and winsky of astro tens the one of the greatest predictors of the superbowl ever invented norm How are you today, buddy? Great. Thanks for having me on larry. Sorry about my internet outage, you know Well today that was crazy We understand anyway. I want I wanted to come on at this time So we could I could forecast What's uh three every february. I have what I call the february uh forecast for fun tests where I use three forecasting models And I'll go over those now. So first we're going to talk about Chinese astrology.  And so we have the chinese astrology The new year began for the in the chinese on february one with the new moon as you probably know larry And last year for example It was a year of the ox and I found some of the chinese astrologers on the internet there And they said on average historically the stock workers should move up 12.3 percent and the sp Went up 26.9 percent in last year now. We're going to move on to the uh, by the way And this year. Oh, I almost forgot the most important thing and then now they're saying this year is the year of the tiger So keep on mind. This is the year of the tiger now We're going to talk about the january barometer, which is a age old Wall street adage as january goes so goes the year if january closes up We're likely a 75 percent probability based on statistical research going back to 1950. That's about 70 years Uh, it worked 75 percent of the time of january's up the market. We should have it up here January's down We should have a down here Now there's the super bowl indicator, which you know for those who are football fans Or maybe you're not in the us Uh, the nfl. That's our big football league here and it's divided into two conferences nfc and afc NFC is bullish afc is bearish. Uh, by the way, the january barometer is accurate about 75 percent of the time I don't know if I said that the only thing more accurate than that is the super bowl indicator I know it sounds crazy, but that is one of the numbers this goes back to the first super bowl I believe in 1967 and when the nfc teams that's bullish the market would tend to close up If afc team wins market closes down for the year and now we have a great thing I put together where because these two models are basically forecasted the same thing and they both have a high percentage batting average They should coincide a high percentage of time And the january barometer is down at the end of january But the super bowl is usually played in february. It'll be played the sunday the 13th So that means that the january barometer should be able to forecast Who's going to win the super bowl? And so this year, uh, the uh, the super bowl Yeah, you have the nfc champion as the los angeles rams I'm going to play the cincinani bengal tigers And the ty and the bengals have been Underdogs all through the playoffs and keep winning and now they're in the super bowl So if they should happen to win this is all these the these three Forecasting models would converge. It would be amazing. You know, that's that's it. So if you've got a spare buck Don't bet grandma's farm. Uh, you can I would go with the tigers, you know And it's also forecasting that down here. Let's talk about Any question Larry? Well, that's good enough for me and uh, I talked to grandma about the farm and she says forget about it She says she's sticking with cryptocurrencies So, okay Hey, listen, as soon as you're free next week Let us know I'll I'll work around it to get you on because we like to hear what you have to say And of course, uh, how many how many years have you been doing the indicator and how often has the super bowl indicator worked? What percentage? Uh, I don't know how many years I've been doing it But it goes back you can google it it goes and they start something I figured it out And you know the first you know first super boy. He was 1967 And it's got about 80% acres Okay, that's good enough for me Hey, listen, thanks for joining us, buddy and be safe and I hope we get your internet working pretty soon Me too. Thanks a lot. Have a great weekend. Okay. We'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye. Happy birthday, by the way Next thursday is your birthday. I think it's your 39th, didn't it? That's a 39 every year All right. See you later. Just me. We can jack jack's birthday was a 40 Yeah, hey, listen, thanks a lot pal. All right. We're gonna get back to I wanted to show this here about Someone asked is this still following the covid thing that we looked at that was very similar to that? Yes, it is But the days instead of being a four-day rally it ended up being a 10-day rally But it stopped instead at the 50% it stopped exactly at the 61 percent retracement So the figure is correct. The question is it's got to close lower Today, I mean and well it could close higher, but it can't be sharply higher If we go back if we go back too much farther than that hold on just a second here I'm getting an image from our good friend. Mr. Shane Smollion here And he might have something that I can use today and uh And I by golly. I I guess it's okay. Yeah, here's what uh, here's what mr Hold on just a sec. I can't post it up because I can't get it out of the system to To do it correctly and change it so And All right, let's uh folks folks. There's a quick where there's a quick way of losing money in this business You know, I just I just uh, maria post something In the uh in the room here, but let me let me give you some, you know Just a this is sort of inside information. So bear with me here one second Why I can get this up here And now here's what I want to show you right here and it's coming in where are we at here Gotta go down just a little bit because it's down near the bottom If you want a quick way of losing money boys and girls This is it. Okay. Hold on Start trying to pick a bottom Start trying to pick a bottom in the uh In the bond market folks. We're we're going down in the bonds.  Hold on one second. Somebody's gave me my fillback. Hold on just a second I want to get this up here to take a quick look and I have I have one other peter lighty story That's really funny. Uh, let's get this up here. Uh, this is what I posted this morning here I said if we open higher in the russell russell index I said get short and we went up to the 61 retracement. This is a perfect garterly cell signal This has so many patterns on it folks that you just can't believe we have a beautiful one three fat one three five pattern one Is november Three, okay. That is january and four that is february. It's a one three five the symmetry Between one three and five is right on the money and look at the three eight two of the high with an abcd Boys and girls, mr. Garly was here. He would be saying This looks like a bearish market my son We'll be right back eight seven seven nine two seven six six four eight Are you in the market for buying or selling real estate in the bay area? Including the surrounding st. 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That's tfnn.com then hit watch tiger tv Okay, folks. I wanted to get back to this dow Jones chart from 1987 because there's so many similarities to what we have today the low that you're looking at back here on the solar eclipse day, which was the um september the 26th And uh, that would be equivalent to when we were trading at 4200 in the s&p. So we're far away. We're 44 60 or 44 70 whatever today or whatever the low was there But if we get below that that would be another trigger that this could be pop This could be happening. That's what i'm going to be following because then it would be telling me that that's what's going to happen There's more to this chart here that from a history point that it's very important after that high was made on october the second Of 1987 I had these options on because laren was going to a eastern school It was going to be very expensive for medical school And I had a cough up some dough to the tune of about uh six Six digits for a couple years And so I had to make enough money on this trade To cover that and that on that day of the 16th when it closed down 104 points I covered all of that plus about 14 grand and I was really happy the next day saturday Was a big wedding. Uh one of the pierce Merrill Lynch pierce smith Merrill Lynch pierce fennel and smith Mr smith's granddaughter up in templeton was getting married and there was a huge party And uh john rafoni and I were invited to it and it was really spectacular They had everything that you could possibly imagine it was really fun and they had a uh Was it which one of the comedians was it that was uh Oh, I'll think of in a second, but anyway, they had a little band there. It was a really cool And then sunday eddie horowitz was getting married in bel air at the bel air country club And I was taking jill down to it because uh she was a big fan of eddie and uh And she loved anything related to the jury's faith because they had so much fun He was having this huge wedding and so I went down for that peter light He's actually was the best man at the wedding for for eddie and eddie's Nickname was speedy and the reason why they called him speedy He could answer he could give you the answers before you could ask him the questions That's how quick he was He slipped a lot now because he's 89 and he's retired But he's the one that got me uh on his docket to do expert witnessing. I did for a couple years I did about 30 cases. I only lost one out of 30 So we go down to the wedding and guys everybody in the financial industry That was anybody was there. Well, uh, it was really quite a pk wall was there Oh my gosh, I can't think of everybody. Walt bresser was there Just so peter, uh, what's his name, uh, paul tutor jones was not there because he was still in new york He wanted to come but couldn't and there were a whole bunch of them There was about 200 guests and everything and that day when part of the jury's wedding as they lift up the The the groom on the on a chair and then he makes a toast and his toast was here's to everybody who's long the stock market You're going to need a lot of help tomorrow and that was on sunday and then by golly on monday you can see what happened I never did forget that comment and the dow was down Who it was down 560 points in one day and that's when it was trading at 2600 the previous day So and that was the best buying opportunity of the 1980s So if something like this happens again, we're probably going to have something good But we're going to be following it to see if it makes any sense if we close sharply higher today We'll just destroy this youtube thing and we won't have to listen to it anymore But if it happens to work and if it happens to work, then that'll be something this time I don't have to worry about putting anybody through medical school anymore. So I at least I can enjoy I can go to the perverbial Well, I won't even mention that because I'm going to get in trouble Let's just move back here just one other thing that I wanted to cover here Just one second. I've got it up here. I just can't find the darn thing. Hold on. I've covered the covid I've covered the 29 covered abcd Oh, here we go. We got to get back to what's happening over in europe Here we go. Here we got we don't want to forget our friends across the pond because they got some really great stuff You'll see here that we have a gartly farming here in the the dax On a 15 minute chart just like we did in the s&p. That's just very similar It's uh, it's really hard to pick ahead in the shoulders here because there's no really left shoulder that I can define But it is certainly a gartly pattern It's got everything related to the abcd that you could possibly ask for and I believe that mr Who guard is pump popping it today pretty hard. So we'll see what else is going on here Let's take a look at the footsie this one here is a Also a 15 minute chart because you get some really nice swings on this You'll notice here that we also have a gartly farming here in the and it's lower tops So that's another thing that over the past few days. It's lower tops. That's another reason why you got to be careful Folks, I don't know if this darn thing is going to work or not But the fact that uh, it's only happened twice before is a very strong negative Also having that economist thing posted I would rather say the the oak I would like to see them saying that you that the uh The roller coaster is not anywhere near the top. I would love to see that but I'm not seeing that it's saying What would happen if a stock market? Well If that happens, you know that that would be one of the rare things that the people Saw it ahead of time and that was really surprising. I got that one Uh from uh, peter this morning that just showed me that that was uh, you know Potential negative to it plus the other one that we looked at where people are always watching for but there There's some symmetry here folks and that's the main thing we want to watch if the symmetry holds up You know, we got something to look at if we don't have the symmetry then, you know, what are you going to do? You got to figure out that there's something wrong But right now right as we stand right as we hear today on friday Markets down a little bit. I guess but you'll notice here. We had 38 days that came in yesterday folks Now I I didn't even check I didn't even check to see if there was a moon or if there was any really I should have done it If there was anything related astrologically that happened either on the 9th or 10th like a venous urinous aspect or something like that Then then I would have really I would have I've gotten I would have gotten more bearish than I already am if that's possibly And I don't think that's possible But anyway, this is what I'm looking at right now So if that's the case we've got we've got how many calendar days folks We've got 16 calendar days to get down to march 16th Now a lot of things are going to happen between now and then so we want to keep a close eye Of how it rolls because if we close really strong today, and I mean really strong would be the the s&p closing up about Say it close it close it 44 63 last night to close it at 45 Anything above 45 20 45 30 would say uh-oh Maybe this isn't going to work But if it closes lower like below 44 50 Then I'd say I wouldn't want to be long this thing. So that's what I'm watching here as I look at this I know Shane is listening and Shane if is there anything related on the uh, the 9th the 9th or 10th That would astrologically close to that venous urinous relationship If you would hey, why don't you call in if you see something that would be great Because I know you do the best astrological stuff that I've seen related to the market along with tim boston And and norman and all the other folks But uh if you see anything that happened on that date that would be really good because I just do the patterns I'm a pattern person. I keep it as simple as possible And that's all I try to do. I don't want it to make any more difference than it possibly can Uh-oh and then we'll take a look at this. It says that yeah, there was but uh he said it's uh Something that he'd rather keep to himself and I don't blame him. He's got some good stuff Say something say something. What do you want me to say? Oh? Nice try. Hey david, why don't you say something you can call in and ask a question You know everything anyway. You're mr. Google. Hey, let's take a break here. You don't have to listen to me for a few more minutes Who loves you? 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We're near the lows 44 72 the lowest Something over the last 63 or something overnight the key is if it closes above 45 45 what do you call it? 45 50 something like that then this would be all of this would be highly suspect And it probably won't work But other than that we want to pay close attention to it. This is just a number of days counting folks That we're looking at there's nothing super big astrological It's just a day count what I back in the old days when I did this I did it because of the astrological sequence But this is just a day count that it it matches up with what happened in 1929 and also what happened in 1987 you can get that through either the posting that I put in the den here for peter's YouTube and then also it also is Unless it's on youtube and then I've been posting the charts, you know through here today So we'll be following him as we go through this Wherever it does but remember this thing could easily reverse and heck we could close above 14 81 to 15 45 81 today and I would be eating Crow for the fourth time But I do like crow very much as a matter of fact because if you put enough garlic and oregano on it It's actually quite tasty. 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Oh predictions to make gotta get this thing underway Patrick's being documented Right now Not of them. Well, I don't know. He might be taking notes on you subject displays confusion Do you want to explain what's going on can behind you case people see Actually, I don't think it's very public yet. So, okay There's just a there's a guy behind Patrick. We know we know he's there. He belongs there He did not sneak into Patrick's house Unexpectedly. It's all you need to know and then we're gonna minutes Minus three minutes. We're gonna do a show. It's jam packed. We've got lots of pre-top stories We've got top stories. We've got a discussion story. We got emails. We got voicemails We got all sorts of mails people for buying mugs You do not yeah and and hoodies The super soft hoodies, they're so good. They're so good I wish I wish this was just me being finally getting good at selling things But it's not like I just I just like them because I'm telling people like yeah If you don't want the DTMS one go buy the TMS one or whatever. They're they're worth it Buy something. Yeah, they're soft. I just want to sleep in mine Like instead of the bed Volkai asks who's the guy I'm not hearing behind Patrick. We just said we just said It's nothing for you concern yourself with it's fine. Everything's fine. What guy? I don't see a guy All right, that's the notification that I need to mute my phone and that we can get underway. Oh Really, we're gonna start early. I don't know. I mean we can it's up to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's If we were having a rollicking conversation about Fred Flintstone's effect on Cold War diplomacy I'd say no, well, let's wait till 1 30. We could do that All right Yeah, big Jim thank you it's in the lineup here we go This show is brought to you by audience members like me not outside organizations to find out more go to daily tech news show com slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday December 13 2016 I'm Tom Merritt join me today Patrick Beja my co-host also host of pixels in the Philius Club at French spin comm and master of scarves I Will put that that title on my Business cards from now on. Yeah, you know, it's it's a fun day. My house has become a refuge for lost tech bloggers They're just showing up the French tech bloggers are here that is that is saying hi That is so wonderful that you've opened your your home to them, you know, it's a day It's a season of giving and I'm giving shelter to my Lager friends the spirit of Noel lives on and Patrick's Chateau Another actual French words We've got a bunch of stuff to get to we got a jam-packed show We're gonna talk about the future of on-demand delivery whether there is a future for on-demand delivery Whether autonomous cars make any difference with that But we got a few other items There's a bunch of announcements that aren't things that necessarily we have a lot to discuss about right now But they're platform-like announcements However, there is a big piece of news that came out about hour and a half or two ago Oculus CEO Brendan a rebate is stepping down from the CEO position and Oculus is splitting in two He's gonna head a new internal PC VR division and then the mobile VR division will be led by recent hire John Thomason Meanwhile Facebook CTO Mike Schrupper will look for a new Oculus CEO an update to Mac OS Sierra Tuesday has removed the time remaining indicator from the battery life drop-down menu Because it just wasn't very accurate and fixes graphics problems on late 2016 Mac book pros the ones with the touch strip as well As I say change to messaging around iCloud syncing so you don't get shocked when things disappear from your desktop Google launched a new Internet of Things platform called Android things as a developer preview for building smart devices on Android's API It'll eventually work with weave and it's basically the spiritual successor to Brillo if you know what that is if you don't don't worry It's been replaced by Android things and Microsoft is making a Cortana skills kit and Cortana devices SDK those are available in private preview for partners right now to build into software and hardware kind of like what Amazon does with Alexa Those should roll out to anyone interested sometime in 2017 Patrick any any quick reactions any hot takes on those? I guess the Oculus thing is the one that would get some reaction out of me I'm just not quite quite sure what that reaction would be yet. Is it a kind of a Sanction for the CEO is it them wanting to have more specialized people in department? I'm not quite sure it does seem like Trying to move things shake things up a little bit and that probably isn't a You know positive indication of the CEO's performance. I would guess but Yeah, I think it's probably a shift to emphasis on mobile They probably said look every bay we brought you in when we were all about the desktop You're great with the desktop keep doing the desktop But we need some some juice on mobile and maybe they decided they needed more of a generalized CEO It'll be interesting to see who they get right. Yeah.  It's fine. I'll just take the PC thing I don't want to be the real CEO of the company. Maybe it's like this is too much guys. I just want to do desktop It's my passion. I don't want to deal with possible and more power to him All right, let's get to the rest of the top stories Alphabet announced today. It will move its autonomous car project from Google X into a new company under alphabet called Waymo WA YMO like way moving way mo fiat Chrysler has been partnered with the Google X project since May and will continue to partner with Waymo Waymo CEO John Kraftjic said the technology could be used in ride-sharing transportation trucking logistics even personal use vehicles Licensing with automakers public transport. There's a lot of speculation out there about what they're going to do with it He said yes to all of it. We were considering all of it Kraftjic expects the first modified Chrysler Pacifica They use the Waymo technology to be on the road in the near future Bloomberg and the information both reported that sources said alphabet hoped to have a ride-sharing service available for passengers by the end of 2017 Yeah, this feels like a graduation. It's one of those things where Google or alphabet rather the sides All right, this is ready to be tested in the market we're going to try to actually make something out of it and the interesting thing is maybe three years ago Google was doing this incredible impossible thing of dreaming of autonomous vehicles And in the interim everyone else has started doing it with actual commercial Views and intent so it seems like now incredibly Google is maybe catching up or trying to catch up to others that have Beed a little bit more commerce minded or or um, you know results minded than they have yeah, I mean part of it strikes me as Larry Page's continuing emphasis on making all of Google's other bets or alphabet rather's other bets profitable and he says hey You know what? We are going to waste a lot of money on trying to become a car manufacturer But we've got this amazing tech. Let's partner up. Let's monetize that Let's turn that into a business and we'll call it way mo because why not? Makes sense Apple started selling its bluetooth headphones Tuesday morning. The air pods have no connecting wires and sell for $159 delivery dates were listed for december 21st, but quickly slipped to january Yeah, I mean that's it's hard to tell if there's anything to that every iphone does the same thing right the first You know 100,000 people who order get a get a delivery date that's soon and everybody else slips to a month later I was I was unfortunate enough to be sleeping when they popped this out there And so I didn't get my delivery date until january 21st Well, I wasn't because I live in a place where it was already the day when that happened And so I did get them and I'm hopefully gonna be receiving them next week I'm not you know, I got them kind of because I had decided I wanted to try out that wonderful wireless future apple has been Trying to sell us. I'm not convinced. I'm super enthusiastic about it. But we'll see maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised Yeah, I can't wait to try them. I hope they deliver on the promise I also hope that you don't lose one of them before I get my first pair Now you're I'm not gonna say anything because uh, I want to jinx myself Synaptics announced its fs 9100 fingerprint scanner can be embedded under up to a millimeter of glass That means phone manufacturers could have an all glass front something that's been rumored for several upcoming models Including an iphone it also is claimed that this sensor will work well with wet fingers Something I've been wanting every time I use my tablet while I'm cooking Synaptics, oh, I thought you were going to say every time I lose my phone in the shower. Oh, I like that too. Yeah Uh, synaptics did not release many details on how this works But did say to expect the sensor to roll out in q1 with mass production beginning in q2 So we should see those these in some model of phone or other by the end of 2017 So wait a second that didn't exist already We've been hearing about these rumors forever and the technology with I can't decide again I'm very undecided uh today. It seems if this was kind of sloppy reporting on the people that we're saying I'm sure it was on the verge of happening. You know, maybe someone else is already Already has the technology out there But I'm like if someone else already had this the technology out there This doesn't necessarily mean it's big news But if they don't put it put it together, right? You're you're letting rumor mongering mess with your sense of timing There was a rumor that apple and and samsung I think we're going to have all glass fronts with sensors that were underneath the glass Synaptics at the time had this technology was likely talking to manufacturers about it But not ready to make it public No one reported on a rumor of synaptics having this technology even though it did This is synaptics saying hey everyone We are ready to announce that we have this technology Which implies that they've had it for most of this past year, right? They're just now getting to the point of saying it publicly And so you've got you've got the rumor mill on one side making it feel like this has been around for a while Whereas synaptics is actually not subject to the rumor mill So this announcement is ahead of the official announcements of any phone using this so the timeline still works No, no, of course, of course it does. But my I guess what I would have liked to see was in a you know, a companion article about these rumored magical phones with no physical, you know with the Sensor under the glass that would also say hey by the way that technology hasn't been announced yet But we suspect that it will be ready by this time. Maybe it's a detail. I'm getting hang up on But yeah, I think it might be kind of I mean they're already saying this is And this is a source telling us something that hasn't been announced yet either. So Right. Yeah, you do raise a very interesting question Which is how many other tech competing technologies are out there that do this or is it just synaptics? I'd be curious to know that snapchat added groups feature A groups feature Tuesday that lets up to 16 people share text photos and videos Snaps can be opened only twice by each member and self-delete in 24 hours You can tap on the name of anybody in a group to chat one-on-one Another new feature comes coming first to ios and later to android lets you cut out part of a snap and make it a sticker Snapchat you notice the the enthusiasm in my voice at that feature Snapchat also added an artistic filter called paintbrush for use on memories and shazam Music recognition available in the camera. So if you don't use snapchat Then this is all lost on you If you don't use snapchat to communicate with other people some people just post stories This is going to be lost on you. But if you if you're actually in there communicating with other people Sometimes it is annoying that you can't do a group chat I've definitely I use it to communicate with a couple of my friends regularly and I have to relay to eileen Oh, well, eric said this, you know, or they have to send it to two of us at once or this or that So it's nice to be able to open that up and be able to share text photos and videos I think that's that's very handy with snapchat as a communications medium the stickers that you laugh patrick, but I actually like I want to try this out. I'm sure I won't use it forever But the idea of like taking a photo of my dog and turning it into a sticker that I could then put into other photos Sounds hilarious to me Well, you're more of a snapchat user than I am that much has been made clear today Uh kuba's telecom a texas signed a deal with google to bring faster internet access to the country Google will install servers in kuba to improve connections to google services like gmail and youtube basically They want to reduce latency the agreement was signed in hirvana by eric schmidt chairman of google's parent company alphabet And it's hexa president. Myra arevich marin We are great capitalism in kuba bringing internet to the people Right, uh Ish, I mean there's all there's all kinds of wonders if the incoming administration will will will keep deals in place with kuba Uh, this is not going to have a huge effect on the average kuban who isn't allowed to have a home internet connection anyway But for those who can use it and for those who can go to public squares and use it There's better service on the way for the google services And it's certainly great for google to get their foot in the door in case this does turn into a massive internet market Yeah, I think you know gmail and youtube are really big. We're used to them now, but I think in some uh locals it's uh bigger deal and very useful and given the uh The hack together mesh networks. They have that share existing connections It might actually do something for the average internet user as well Or some of them at least Yeah, it it can't hurt. So um At this point, it's you know, it's it's a good bet for google And finally the nintendo switch live stream has been scheduled for january 12 11 p.m Eastern at nintendo.com slash twitch 11 p.m Eastern don't they they know i'll be asleep Dammit nintendo nintendo is expected to announce price and availability then the tokyo based event will Be followed by a hands-on press event in new york on january 13 The switch is due out sometime in march 2017 Yeah, so um, this is but they did this for for tokyo people. That's why it's an inconvenient times for the rest of us I guess right they they could have managed it to make it inconvenient for you guys in the u.s Yeah, I because it it actually isn't that inconvenient on the west coast right it's 8 p.m. Eastern uh pacific time So it's it may have been targeted to be convenient for japan But also not too inconvenient for the silicon valley Well, so the thing that is really striking in the last couple of weeks is how much coverage nintendo nintendo has been getting on everything and I am a big fan of course, and i'm very excited about a new console coming from the the manufacturer but They've been on every single blog with mario run and uh, even this announcement, you know, it was announced that it would be a It was announced that it would be announced in january and then in january 12 and then a bunch of articles at a certain time and like It's i'm not sure if it's pokemon go that all of a sudden make the entire Tech sphere aware of nintendo again, or if something else happened, you know, maybe they hired a new pr person That is exceedingly good at their job and knows everyone in the industry but It feels to me like this amount of coverage for The even for the new console is a little bit Strange i don't i'm not sure why everyone cares about nintendo at this point. Um I wonder this is just just theorizing if the disappointment of the wii u has a lot of people Very excited for that to pass into memory And therefore they want the nintendo switch to be great And they're very much looking forward to this announcement so that they can move on to liking a nintendo product again Yeah, it's possible It might be also that a lot of tech bloggers are you know now at the age that they are running things in Some of the the tech sites and not you know the old I don't want to be disparaging. Maybe the old cs crowd that only cares about tech tech Yeah, got it. Well, maybe um, but you know and so And with the last console the wii u actually the wii u was after the wii so it was covered as well I don't know. Maybe it's just the cycle that's coming back, but it feels a little bit like everyone's doing 15 articles about an inch of potential rumor news item about an event. They've already covered a week Yeah Actually, I think that that video that showed off the switch and the jimmy fallon appearance that happened Has showed people that this looks like a very promising Console like it's different and it but it's different in a way that makes sense versus being like the wii u unfortunately Different in a way that a lot of people didn't quite understand what they were supposed to do with it Maybe I think there's also a little bit of uh of self hyping happening I'm guessing some people don't really understand why this is a big deal But they're seeing everyone else making a big deal out of it. So they're like, oh, yeah, so Good PRing on on their side too. Thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Well paul linert heather somerville and alexandria sage wrote up a story for reuters that was published today On venture capitalists sort of souring on delivery startups We're talking about startups that deliver food or pick up packages for shipping or bring you things from the convenience store 9 billion dollars has gone into 125 on-demand delivery companies over the past decade That includes two and a half billion this year. So that number makes it look like hey, it's it's doing well and getting bigger But the Reuters story notes that only 600 million has been raised In the second half of this year. So midway through the year it started to decline and in the fourth quarter it fell off a cliff The problem that these companies are having and what's scaring away investors Is that the costs are high And the consumer price you can charge is at a ceiling So the margins are thin and it doesn't get better the more you scale Uh, you still have driver churn. So you're constantly training people. You have operations people that cost money You have more support costs and they don't go away the more drivers you add and the more service you add Now the idea with these delivery companies is not that delivery is new but that apps Would cut out a large part of the logistical cost make things efficient and be easy to dispatch people That's why uber got into this because they're like, hey, we already do this. Let's just add delivery on But apparently it's not enough. So the next question patrick is can autonomous cars be the thing that saves this now Let's set aside Whether we're going to get autonomous cars that can make these services work anytime soon Autonomous cars still can't go pick up a package inside of a restaurant and they can't go up to a customer's porch That's can you hear me because my computer is entirely frozen. We don't see you anymore, but we okay All right, so I'll I'll keep talking the Obviously the first thought that everyone has is yes autonomous cars and as it is pointed out in the article and you said Yeah, but there are other logistical issues that an autonomous car is not going to solve And I don't yeah, I don't think that's gonna that's gonna unless you equip the autonomous car with a Very capable robot then that is probably not gonna help and I I don't see how this is going to become you know, I was I think it's it's uh A lot of us has been have been skeptical on these services because it's hard to To get significant margins and as they said they don't scale I I see how the uber for something which a lot of Investors are getting sourdough at this point was exciting at some point, but Uber for deliveries. I don't for food deliveries, especially It's kind of hard to see an actual business model Working out of this and it's hard to see how the advancing technology is going to help Making it more viable. So I guess I guess what I'm saying is I'm not sure how Why it took so long for people to realize this wasn't viable because The problem is it's competing with existing food delivery services for the places You want to get food from already and those are going to give you a cheaper price And you don't want to pay an extra 15 bucks on a you know A Dinner that's going to cost you 30 Well, so okay, but the advantage is and I say this from experience, Patrick. Okay First of all, you don't have to go look up The place and folk you know pick up the phone and call them and talk to them and say no no no You know, yes, I really want the walnut shrimp. No the wall wall w a no you just type it all in And you get more places it will deliver from restaurants that don't do delivery So it widens your options and you know, they have sales that the the fee for delivery is usually around five dollars It's certainly always less than 10 in my experience. So yeah, it's not cheap And it's not something that I personally want to do all the time But when there's that one night where you just don't want to cook and you don't want to leave the house Like all right, I'll fork over an extra five bucks to get ruts Hawaiian Brought to me because they don't do delivery Sure, uh, I I would suggest that you can usually find a delivery thing that does Delivery that you'll probably be happy enough with and even more important you and I are Maybe but even more important five bucks. I can put in But how is anyone going to be making a living and having the company make a living on five bucks for what is I I'm guessing difficult to make less than what 20 30 minutes of work That isn't viable and that's a problem of you know cost and revenue and and profits And that again that doesn't scale. It doesn't mean you can't Make that problem go away by increasing Your your market So I don't and the problem comes I think and this is why uber I think has a little bit of an advantage I want to talk about that in a second the problem comes that You you have a driver who is out there like I'm working for door dash And I'm going to go to the kfc and pick up some chicken and bring it to a person's house Door dash can make money when that driver now delivers three or four meals On the same route So that the driver's time doesn't increase dramatically But they they get more delivery fees and that driver hopefully picks up a few extra tips on top of its regular rate that causes huge logistical problems and You have to be a company like uber that can handle a lot of cars in motion all the time to be able to Kind of finely slice that service and make it turn a profit uber not only has the existing ride system They also own auto Which is devoted to shipping logistics mapping and tracking for trucks But this roider ars article points out they could apply that to deliveries and maybe be able to make it scale Honestly, I don't see how this is Yes in a in an ideal wonderful world of logistical Perfectness you are going to have three or four people that order from the same place And that you're going to be able to deliver on one ride well not in the same place It's it's it's like hey, these are all in the same area. So you pick up all the meals and then deliver all the people You really think that happens that does happen. I've I've seen it happen. Yeah on a on a wide enough Basis that you can base your entire business the idea, right? That's what all these companies are betting on is we can get enough people using this service to do it And that's why uber has the advantage to say like when we already got the cars out there, right? So, yes, I think another Potential explanation is a lot of people were very excited about the idea of I'm gonna do the uber for this And they thought everyone has to eat right and no one bothered to do the math and to study the actual feasibility of it And I understand that to some extent jumping into a startup and investing is kind of You know betting on the unknown and on the possibility But this one and maybe you know someone is going to come up with a way of making it actually work and and going to make a huge idiot out of me, which Has been known to happen But it certainly seems to me like there was a lot more enthusiasm than realism in this particular type of venture So and the way it has died down in the latter part of the year To me the way I interpret it is They they stopped for a second after the uber for something crazed Settled down a little bit and they were like wait What are we doing now and looked at the that the numbers and figured out Maybe we'll let someone else figure that one out if it is possible I think venture capitalists get really angry at that kind of argument all the time because These investors do a lot of math They do a lot of looking and I know I know there are verified stories of stupid things happening like you're talking about But most of them look at the books and and now more than ever They're saying no you you have to actually make a return for us to invest in you So Yeah, probably a lot of these did get some funding based on somebody saying hey, it's the hot new thing Let's pour some money into it But I bet plenty of them did the math and thought hey, it's a reasonable bet Let's see if it can happen and there are companies like door dash who are still Able to get funding rounds because they're still able to say hey, we're we're out there making deliveries We still think we have a shot to do this Is door dash delivering food though? Yeah Okay, sorry. Well, okay, maybe they will make it happen. Oh, well, there you go Maybe that makes all the difference. I don't know I think uber has the big advantage though They have 15 billion dollars in cash. They have all these ancillary businesses that can have benefits For this type of service without requiring you my big the big reason I like to use uber over door dash Is because they they show me the car That's a huge advantage to me if i'm ordering food to know like oh there they are they're very close Whereas with a lot of these other services and certainly if you call the pizza place and ask them to To deliver you never know when they're going to show up. So Yeah, and I think uber is a special case here. They're already so big. They have so many So much Capabilities for the other parts of their business and so much cash. They can sort of experiment with this It's a small well not a small but a side Business trial for them whereas for a company that based that that does You know bases their entire business of this. It's a lot more challenging to actually achieve. I think Yeah, I I agree with that and One last side note before this we may see That a lot of these companies either fold or get acquired by or their employees end up working for the ride Uh, the autonomous ride services that are we're consistently seeing people saying yeah, I'm going to launch it in 2017 I'm going to launch it in 2018 Uh, that may be aggressive in its in its hopefulness But if we start to see alphabet and waymo providing a service by the end of next year if we see uber expanded to san francisco Which seen at just today found a warehouse full of uber self-driving cars that appear to be ready to launch We may start to see those services saying hey, well, let's partner up Uh, so so yeah, we'll probably still need to figure out that that last that last 10 feet Uh, but uber usually makes you come out and and get the food from their car anyway Uh, and you've got that service that's escaping me from estonia that has autonomous robots Delivering the food with a lock box. So maybe there's something along those lines I bet that that can be figured out And I bet that is the future of these services The yeah, how far that future is is the big question. I see that is yeah All right, let's get to some messages of the day last week We talked about amazon go the convenience store where you don't have to do anything You just pick up stuff and walk out and it charges you it just has to know who you are in the way in Yesterday we talked about panasonic or yeah, was it panasonic? I think uh, who is doing a Checkout system where you just put things into a basket. You don't have to do any scanning Well, a lot of people said hey, I shop at a place that has something very close to that already We start with a voicemail from desmond. Hey, tom and friends I was listening to monday december 12th show and you guys were Talking about the new checkout system in japan I used to live in stanton virginia in the local little tiny Um town that the local martin's grocery store had a great checkout system where you Scanned your shoppers card when you first checked in you got a little scanner you went around the grocery store And everything you put in your basket you scanned and then when you went to checkout you just scanned your card again Returned to the scanner and paid and that was it. It was real simple It was awesome And every so often they would check your bag just to see if it was working and that was all anyways, love the show Thank you desmond. Maurice wrote in as did a few other people to point out that sam's clubs warehouse stores here in the us also have a similar system where you scan The upc with an app and the app knows you're in the store with geolocation And then toby Said the lawson's automated bagging makes me think of the self checkout increasingly being used in the uk You scan on the supplied handheld scanner as you place the items into your own bags Pay with apple pay at unsupervised checkout exits. No rebagging or transfer required So Apparently this this is a thing that is widespread across the globe And I believe that is the exact thing I talked about last tuesday when someone Mentioned something like that on on the show as well as a comment All of these are interesting indeed. Um, we did have one in france very similar. I think 10 15 years ago With the little handheld scanner thing the difference though and what makes the amazon go story interesting is that you don't need the scanner thing or any form of You know accounting for the items you're picking up In the store It does that by itself through You know sensors and cameras and machine learning and all of that beautiful technology stuff So you can just go pick them up and walk out and that's the Clever interesting thing if it was just You know, you had a scanner and you had to scan them and put them in your in your basket As everyone pointed out it already exists Yeah, well and even the panasonic one is a step up because you don't have to scan anything. You just put it in the basket Yeah, exactly. So it's a half step towards what amazon's got going on Brian aka electronic eagle checked his mailbox this morning and nissan leaf owners finally received an update on the 2g telecom unit That will stop working on december 31st getting pretty close there He says I have mixed feelings about shelling out 199 bucks But really wonder why they waited until mid december to disclose this plan The turnoff date was set more than a year before I purchased the car in 2014 in the past two years I've spent $29 total in maintenance on the car and nothing in gas.  But still they mentioned two years ago that it was going to go away So and he knew it when he bought the car, I suppose it is cutting it way close on the solution Yeah, it is Rich from lovely cleveland just saw an article from the register that came out last night that See, uh, yes, cisco is getting rid of its intercloud Service the public cloud market is rapidly shrinking says rich with aws dominant and as you're around to pick up the still profitable slack Hpe sold its open stack assets to susa last month and now cisco kills their effort A lot of players are moving into specialized niches hpe is focusing on cloud storage For example, cisco wants to move into hybrid cloud service But it seems the players for overall cloud computing are really narrowing. I thought this was an interesting enterprise focused story aws is eating everything. Yeah, it's eating the world and uh, ssnapier in our analyst slack notes that a story that security camera company hick vision is ending its cloud service caught his eye Hick vision said it will discontinue online service to uh, due to a security vulnerability and ipvm says, yeah, that's our Security vulnerability. That's why they're discontinuing this service. We discovered it Ssnapier notes. Hick vision is a very large player in the residential and small business security industry They white box for a ton of brands at least two dozen that he knows of Most of the stuff you see at the big box stores is made by hick vision or dahua. No matter what the box says Uh, so if you're buying a security camera Probably had hick vision in it if it didn't it had the other one And if you did have a hick vision camera, is that a problem now? No, they're transitioning you to a different service Uh, but it is it is kind of a big deal. 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Get more at frogpants.com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this brover All right Cool. Okay. I'm sorry. I don't know what happened. Yeah, sorry about your camera I just turned your video off. So I don't know if it came back Because no no no my when I turned your video off it put your Icon face Yeah, the thing is actually completely frozen. I have control over the mouse And nothing else the uh touch bar is frozen the nothing works. I suspect Uh, either Steve jobs didn't like what I was saying or uh, the ghost of Steve jobs got you chrome Chrome is so I'm gonna I'm gonna hard reboot. Okay. Um, and I'll I'll be back for the prediction show Sounds good. All right. Cool. Thanks. Thanks. Patrick. Bye guys Um, it's really going on He's having a big blogger party there. I I haven't oh All right, I'm pressing the button. All right, thanks about it. Do it any second now Yeah, what do we got for titles Roger? Uh meals on wheels for people are pretty perfectly able to drive Delivery in zero zero zero zero zero one one one one zero minutes or less Uh fiber and protein to the door kung pao drone self-driving food self-driving pizza waymo traffic Waymo money mo profits I think we've done something like that before Yeah, mo mo mo jokes have have been in the titles a few times Alphabet alphabets waymo child companies Alphabets is pretty good Alphabetting this on the future does alphabet dream of autonomous vehicle. I also like self-driving food I do self-driving food is good. I like that one I also like his other one the kung pao drone Yeah, we didn't really talk about drones though. We should have yeah All right, then self-driving food All right done I'm imagining if that's the case they're gonna take one of those little, um What's the little four transit connect ones and they're just gonna totally outfit it with like little love food heaters So when you get something hot, I'll keep it warm Yeah, they could well. That's what that Estonian company is doing It's basically a food heater on robotic wheels and it just trundles down the sidewalk What if it had a built-in? Dr. Wheel drone that comes out and goes straight to your door and hits the button ding dong Yeah, so so the self-driving car brings the food the drone picks it up out of the car And that way it doesn't ever go up high and it involves faa rules. It just goes up your driveway Problem there is and we did get into this. There's also like hey, I live in a dorm room on the locked fifth floor What you know if they have a window this is great if they have a window You know how you put up that little shelf thing for air conditioners You know you have a window or conditioner and you have to put a little thing You can put a little pad there like a little a landing pad. Yeah, like a little drone pad Yeah, but that's gonna be a break-on except on on uh onboarding That's gonna stop people from wanting to do it like I don't want to have to put a landing pad out I'm not gonna use that service fine hire someone to get out of the car after it drives there I know right like and then it's like well, you then you haven't saved anything But it's all have them drive themselves Maybe you can get kids. They were the food aviation administration Get that hilariously draw the food and drone administration the FDA Oh big Jim says you could just use an RC car You could you wouldn't have to you wouldn't have to fly it But that wouldn't help with the guy on the fifth floor Oh and Shane says that then the companies can give you the landing pad for free So maybe that's how they get you is that like the razor model the razor's free, but the way yeah Well, I don't want to go with another service.   Yeah It's just you have one for the food Food shoot. Yeah What if we uh, what if we go even further back in time and we use uh, one of those called pneumatic tubes? Yes Yeah pneumatic tubes where they just put the food in a pneumatic tube and then press the the Room number that it needs to go to that would be great Here's the problem with all of these is as entertaining as they are The problem is logistics and and and cost and these are all making things logistically more difficult and costing When we build the new city tom will build that we'll build that infrastructure straight anything that starts with We'll have to build something new that is not on the client side Or on the provider side is is probably not gonna work I'll get I'll get a bench of h1b visas and then get programmers to come out and deliver you food by hand I think that's called door-dash. I think that's what they're doing now I think that's essentially what that what was that movie with the rc car that would drive under other cars and explode Oh, that was bad.  And this is cool that movie actually featured one of the first uses of little aerial drones uh to basically work as Uh remote eyes for police so they would send one in they would send Thought they called it a floater and would go into a house And it would fly in and they could see remotely with the uh with with the uh drone would see it's pretty awesome They're little spider bots and stuff Yeah, I have to say when I'm trying to think back when I was in the dorms at the University of Illinois and granted This was an ancient times Uh in 1988 We just went downstairs. You ordered grog's pizza delivery.  So I don't see why with self-driving car I couldn't just text you like the apple say hey Things here go put in this code in the door and then you can get your food I don't know. Maybe people learn how to cook Well, I don't you know be wouldn't we be interesting if you basically have A fridge stock with like the 10 or 12 ingredients you need and all you do is just download A recipe and the thing makes it for you. Well, there's there's that's a whole different industry And there's lots of people trying to work on that right now And you should eat oatmeal and be done with it like you're like every other college student for four years oatmeal mac and cheese ramen noodles Min bar Oh the mini bar. I thought you meant min bars and The home world of the min barry Babylon 5 I never watched bad. I mean I watched the pilot of Babylon 5. I never watched the whole Skip the first season although you'll need it to understand the second third and fourth and possibly the fifth season So I can't skip It's just the first season except for a couple of the actors the acting is really bad. It gets better when they replace The lead character with uh bruce boxlater Hmm Wait, what's a way bad idea the the mac and cheese and hot oatmeal and ramen I'm trying to change that he ate spaghetti in a jar and uh, I did I definitely did that too my my go-to uh cheap food was package of of spaghetti noodles And a jar of tomato sauce Carl buttock meats And the cheapest bread I could get And then uh craft macaroni and cheese And then I sometimes I'd buy broccoli Like fresh fresh broccoli to put into either the spaghetti or the mac and cheese to get me a vegetable ate a lot of cold cuts in soup I did some tomato soup. I do grilled cheese and tomato soup with like, um I would never get the uh craft slices because I had those when I had tonsillitis as a kid and I hated them So I'd try to find other cheap cheeses or the grilled cheese I ended up basically just buying a sack of rice and then ordering chinese food Oh, yeah, I do rice and beans a lot too because the rice stretches and then the chinese food is mostly vegetables So it's not too bad for you Um, it's pretty filling. You mean you'll be hungry by morning I did ramen a little bit, but honestly, uh, I didn't I didn't like it. It didn't fill me up enough. I needed uh, I needed more of a protein in there You're burning calories, Tom. Yeah Back then I was Not anymore Uh Well, it's easier to do a lot of things when you're young when I was when I was in college. I was working 25 30 hours a week Oh, yeah, tuna big Jim mentions tuna. I did I did tuna I would put tuna in my spaghetti and in my macaroni and cheese I was very suspicious of canned tuna for the longest time. Really? I mean, I eat a lot of it as a kid, but I thought it was stalking you I thought I was just dolphin meat and so I was like, I don't want that. Oh, you didn't think it was actually tuna So what I mean if it was dolphin meat, it's still protein Ethically, it might be a problem, but Well, it's high mercury content. Well, they're all high mercury content. That's yeah Uh, I also did uh, I did tacos. I would buy a can of refried beans and then a can of olives and a can Everything was canned that went into it and then then some shredded cheese That would be when I was splurging though because that was a little more expensive when I got my job at the exploratorium I finally shifted all my cooking to The rice cooker and the crock pot and so I'd buy a bunch of cheap Cheap meat, but like the tougher cuts of of meat Throw that in I'd throw in like a bunch of carrots potatoes spinach Mushrooms and let it cook and I could feed me for like four days Yeah, G peg says was there no on-campus dining? This is after on-campus dining. First of all, they They didn't always serve dinner. They didn't serve breakfast. I don't think It was expensive. Yeah I was but but but I'm talking about when I when I lived on my own after college Oh, when I did that recipes are coming from after college I had my job at tech TV. So I upgraded to grocery shopping every two weeks Yeah, I could afford to I could afford to Eat more fresh vegetables for Part of it was just that was I didn't really have a lot of time I was working 60 plus hours a week at that point. Oh, yeah.  It was uh Costco buying buying bacon. I'll just give you a Costco card Like I could load up on all sorts of like I would load up on four loads of bread. I'd throw that in the freezer Oh, yeah, that's like I just throw every I I would stay away from a lot of the um Uh red meat stuff, but like some of the other stuff I tried to do the beans and rice pot and eat it all week Uh a lot, but it didn't always work And see by the time I got my job at tech TV I was making more than I had made in Austin So I was able to upgrade to eating out every once in a while instead of having to eat at home And if we didn't eat that I think that a lot I ordered it and I ordered in cheap chinese food That's a great thing about chinese restaurants Like you can go low buck and it gently is okay My my big thing at sea net was to find lunch places that didn't cost me more than five dollars for lunch And there was the curry place across the street. I'll carry the hurry Yeah, there was the quiz nose. There was the toaster oven Subway toaster oven was expensive toaster oven was mostly expensive. They had a couple of things for five dollars on the menu Um, but the one that I I ended up going the most often was the the deli. I can't remember the deli now With the hot bar of chinese food Is that the one across the street? Is that lee's lee's deli? Yeah, lee's hot. Yeah, everyone got a lot of steam table I could always do lee's for less than five bucks That's a problem. I eat a lot. I eat a lot at lunch to offset the fact. I don't eat breakfast Yeah, see that's why they call breakfast the most important meal of the day even though it's not Really the most important meal of the day is to put up hungry Yeah, apparently the whole most important meal of the day has no evidence to support it We went with uh self-driving food We did It's the top pick Self-driving food. Yep. It's in there. I'm about to publish it. As a matter of fact Publish it I'm trying to get the right Link here for self-driving food You know jason, it's uh, I I actually tend to Look at a lot of online reviews with a great deal of skepticism I tend to cross-reference it with multiple sources You realize you're once again responding to someone with the rest of us not understanding what you're responding to Sorry, sorry I can't help it I've been eating lunch yet. Jason Bryant is tired of unethical things. He wrote a dirtier word than that But that's because he's mad I'm explaining what you're responding to. I'm assuming that's what you're responding to. Yes All right, Mongolian food is good spicy Okay, uh, that is it for this episode of the daily tech news show it is all published and everything Awesome, and then tomorrow we're back with ben johnson from code breaker. I said that right, right? Oh, you said Ben. Yeah ben johnson from marketplace I did I thought I said code breaker did you Well, either either case is not incorrect Code breaker is on marketplace for marketplace I said code breaker. I just checked. All right. Not the marketplace would have been wrong, but Okay, thank you all for watching And listening


So, in this set of videos we're going to be talking about consolidation. Now, consolidation happens when we subject a soil to a change in stress. Now, we know that the solid phase within a soil is relatively incompressible, or we assume that it's incompressible, so any change in shape or volume of the soil happens because of changes within the void space. Now, water is a material that's also relatively incompressible, so if the voids are going to change shape and they're fully saturated, what needs to happen is that water needs to move out of the soil, a part of that water needs to move out of the soil, and that's what consolidation is. It's the movement of water out of the void space, so we move from a situation here to one over here where the amount of water in the soil has decreased, and what we're measuring is the settlement, so delta range. So what does settlement depend on? What does delta range depend on? Well, as we've already said, it depends on a change in stress within the soil. Well, it depends on how susceptible the material is to settlements, in some ways how squishy the material is. So a more squashy material will have a greater settlement. So we give that a parameter called the coefficient of volume compressibility, or MV, and it also depends on the total initial thickness of the material. So you take a one meter soil and you subject it to a change in stress and it has a certain susceptibility to compressibility. That will have a smaller total settlement than if you did the same for 3 meters of soil. So this settlement is proportional to the thickness of the material. So that's H0, so the initial thickness of the material. So here we have quite a simple equation for settlement, where your total settlement depends on the change in stress, your coefficient of volume compressibility, or how squishy the material is, and your initial thickness of the material. A useful thing to point out now is, or a question to answer now is, what units does this MV value have, the coefficient of volume compressibility? Well your delta range has units of length, so let's just write that in terms of meters for now. So you have a meter, a length unit here, you have a change in stress which has stress units, so let's say a kilo Newton's per meter squared. You have an unknown here, your MV value, and then you're multiplying it by another unit of length meter. Now we can see we've got it one meter up here, and we've got two meters down here, so this meter cancels with one of these, and if we then take this unit of stress, or what was a unit of stress, to the other side of the equation, if we multiply both sides by meters, and divide both sides by kilo Newton's, what we're left with is meters squared over kilo Newton's, which equals MV. So the units of MV are really just the inverse of stress units, meter squared per kilo Newton, and often those are written for convenience as meter squared per mega Newton. Okay, so let's run through an example, or a typical example of calculating total settlement within a soil.


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