Hey everyone! So a couple of days something really cool happened which this video is going to be about but I just wanted to give you a bit of a premise so that you would know what this conversation, recorded conversation, is all about. So initially about a month ago I recorded a video called pressure testing the two-minute rule and the two-minute rule itself is a commitment to do for at least two minutes every day something you wish to do more of. So that could be jogging, reading, and anything that you like. But the genius of this method is that it's easy to commit to doing something for only two minutes but then if you feel like it you continue to do it for longer which often enough on many days it does happen and so that's a great way to develop your habits. So I pressure tested this method for 10 days recording to see if it's going to work out for me and it worked really well. But the cool thing about that is that the video was watched by Kate Riggles, a woman from the state of Montana who decided to pressure test not only the two-minute rule but also the idea kind of a famous idea that if you do something for 24 days in a row that's going to develop a new habit. And myself I heard about this idea many times and I was always interested whether it's true or not and not only that she started to pressure test that by doing the two-minute rule for 24 days in a row but also she was joined by a whole group of women who did that together alongside with her. They also shared that in a group that I personally run for the two-minute rule which is called the two-minute rule tribe if you're interested to see check it out. But the thing is I was I had the chance and opportunity to watch that whole journey of theirs and it was super inspiring. There's so much I learned and I just couldn't stop myself from getting together with them and talking about it. The conversation ended up being really inspiring and we spoke about many things including whether the 24 day thing turned out to be true or not and just about the whole situation in the world these days and how it's important to have other people around you doing something with you and committing to various processes. So obviously you're going to learn all about that in the video but I highly recommend listening to at least most of it because I think it was an awesome conversation so I hope you will enjoy it as much as I did and I'll let you go without further ado to the conversation itself. We are like if you will say something terrible like you will admit that you murdered someone or something just let me know I'll delete that in post-production so before I had this conversation with all of you I was a bit anxious I was a bit nervous because I was so looking forward to it so this is really excited about this. So yeah good to see you all here again and there's so much I want to ask and hear you say but actually the very first thing I wanted to engage all of you with is to just ask what kind of two-minute rule practice you did and we can go into the details of what it is and how it started and everything afterwards but maybe let's just start with who did what. So I did my two minutes of jogging I cannot stand running and now I can say that I like running. I was looking forward to not every day I mean in the beginning I was like oh my gosh this sucks and I found that it was really hard to find those two minutes even though it was pretty simple to do but it's just as easy not to go do it but yeah two minutes of jogging it was it was good. I chose to do the two minutes of running as well and it started out rough I did my two minutes I kept it to a minimum for like the first week week and a half and then after that I chose to start running for five minutes 10 minutes I ended this whole 24 day challenge on a 20 minute run and I went for two miles so there was I think two days in there where I really enjoyed the run the other times it was just kind of normal painful kind of listen to my music and get through it type of a run but um yeah there was two times in there where it was like a stress relief that happened with me and it felt really cool nothing I'd ever experienced before when I was running so it's like Kate uh told me one night she's like you know I rolled out a bed I was already in bed in my pajamas and I forgot to run that day and she hauled herself out of bed to go run and so after I heard that I didn't really have any excuses and so yeah I think I missed three days or more but I kept going so uh yeah that was that was mine I did my running I didn't run I did abs and I do workout routine every day um I do you know every running incorporates your core muscles but I really put off um specifically doing ab workout um I just it's like my most uncomfortable so I thought it was like a perfect opportunity to pick um to do ab work and so I two minutes is okay the first day two minutes the second day my abs were really sore so um every day that I did them I felt like it was getting a little bit easier and I now it's getting a little bit stronger in my core so it really benefited me and um yesterday my last day I did like a 10 minute Peloton ab workout and normally I'd be like dying and I felt like I I made it through pretty good so I missed day 23 I just had a just like I was like broken that day and had a long day at work and it was my Friday at work and I just kind of crashed but I picked it up yesterday and and finished strong in the end and I think it was great and I think I have other ideas of what I want to do uh to incorporate this kind of a new challenge every 24 days I guess um and still keeping my ab workout in there in my workouts keeping that strong so well I chose reading because initially before all of this went down I was working out a lot at the gym and then roller derby and it's something that I've wanted to do um I used to read for fun and just kind of lost it with phones and all of that jazz so um there were some days that I was definitely challenged and didn't do it and then there were some days that I was like completely intoxicated but did it anyway some of those videos I'm watching back I'm like oh my gosh this is crazy what was I making um they were awesome yeah I agree the best part is just being able I mean besides adding great things obviously is cool but this has really saved me like having other folks doing something that's similar to what you're doing and and it helped me be accountable because I didn't want to let my buds down but then it's also neat to watch everyone's journey and I was like this is perfect for this time right now like and I find myself reading without even thinking about it like oh I could be logging this time I'm I'm reading for fun so I'm excited to add some things I'm trying to figure out um what to add next without I have this sense of wanting to add a whole bunch of stuff yeah that's probably not quite smart so I don't know I'm definitely gonna add physical activity I started it on the first I did a little bit on the first and then just kind of have it done in a sense so I got to recommit write it down so there's a question I want to ask everyone but just to double check about something before I do so especially April were you enthusiastic about reading before you started the two minute rule thing or um I think I was not necessarily enthusiastic but also not not looking I guess reading is something that isn't like making yourself run I mean I didn't hate reading so um I just wanted it to be more of a habit so um I think I just didn't think of the opportunity to read as much so it kind of helped build it in because something I uh wanted to kind of point out and ask as well about is specifically that came out uh in regards to running so Kate Amanda you both mentioned you hated running which I think is so awesome that you did that and Heather you mentioned you didn't like apps app workouts apps workouts I guess or you weren't like a person who does it all the time so I'm curious uh how I know already from us sharing our journeys and our experiences that there were days where you enjoyed doing that at least I know specifically Amanda mentioned you two days you actually loved it and I think you had those moments too so so how was that experience of doing something you actually didn't like and then discovering that's part of you starts to like that I think for me yeah I hate running I hated it and I don't anymore and then and you guys definitely helped with that um being able to like April said watch yourself back in those videos uh that was kind of inspiring in itself looking at myself and like watching my journey um because that's something I've never done before uh I'm not a huge video fan and this has made me become a little bit yeah better I yeah I the first couple of jobs were super hard um well the first couple were were okay because I was doing it with you guys and I was like this is going to be fun and then it kind of got you know after a while it's like I gotta do this again um and the running got a little bit um hard I mean it did it just was like this is another day of doing this I have you know 20 more days and uh I was kind of not looking forward to it a couple of days there but then all of a sudden something weird happened and it just kicked into where it was like gosh this music that I'm listening to and the the beat of my feet going running to it and and it just grew more and more and I every single time I was out there running I was thinking of you guys which made it even better and I didn't run um a long amount of time I think the most I did was 10 minutes 9 minutes something like that 12 minutes I think one day so it wasn't um I didn't really go that long I went the two minutes almost every single day um but I ran fast it was almost like a sprint during the two minute time and it just got more fun for me every single time I and I want to go run right now I mean I woke up going okay I gotta get my run in I'm ready to do it again every single day I'll come run with you anytime yay how did you kick my ass so yeah I I mean it turned it into something more so I'm hoping to be able to do distance a little bit more distance running um because of this even though I didn't go a real long long time the times that I did go 9 minutes 10 minutes 12 minutes it was fabulous and I just wanted to keep going but I had to get home or you know I had obligations that I had to do so I wanted to keep going it was great yeah and for me um I guess I didn't hate running that's a that's a strong word I despised it because it was off I guess I get a side ache and then I would just start thinking about the other things that I had to do and I couldn't get into like that mentality of wanting to be out there running and like I was I was chasing that um that feeling that runners have where they're like they're in a zone they call it like the runner's high I guess and like they they feel good while they're running and I was like well maybe if I keep doing this I'm gonna experience that so that's kind of what I was chasing and we likened it to jujitsu where if you are practicing a move a certain escape that requires a specific timing and what you're giving me pressure-wise like one that I think about is getting up at a cross-eyed's bottom where they're making a transition and you sit up into them and it has to be just right and just perfect your timing has to be on and you hit that move one time during open mat and then you don't hit that move again for like 15 or 20 attempts but you keep going up the mat you keep trying and then pretty soon you hit it again and then it's you try 10 more times and then you hit it and then it's eight more times and pretty soon you're pretty consistent with nailing that one escape in jujitsu and I guess that's kind of what happened with me when I was out running where I enjoyed it that one time I think it was like day 12 13 somewhere in there I had to be at this for like two weeks before I experienced that positive feeling from running so um I experienced that one time and then I was like yeah I enjoy running finally the next day it sucked again and so I was like okay this sucks so every day on my shoes going out there running and it happened one other time and even on my very last day running two miles it was just like grit and determination and like feeling proud of myself that got me to run that two miles up and down hills and and back into the woods so um yeah that's kind of what I would would like in it too and I assume that if I keep running and I keep getting up and keeping this part of my routine that I'll start to enjoy it more and more the more I condition my body to to do so um there's a I'll jump into a question in a moment but there's something I wanted to share as well and I think that's where I resonated with those stories because I did do a similar process right now I wasn't working that much on jogging I made that video I did it for 10 days but I also did a lot of the same type of running in the past and I never consider myself a runner I always enjoyed jog sprinting I enjoyed going really fast but then as Kate mentioned then you don't you can't go for long but then I kept kind of making myself do it and again and again not for long but just every day and eventually I surprised myself to find enjoying it because I didn't expect that to happen I just did it because I decided I will do it but also to I think we discussed that in the group where we sometimes have that idea that I'm not a runner or I'm not a person who reads books or I'm not this type of person and we kind of box ourselves in and we never actually really go out of that box and try that thing long enough where we discover that actually I do love it or there is a kind of a sense of joy in it so so kind of seeing that happen in the group and in your process that that was very cool for me so I appreciate that sharing and I wanted to also ask so so Heather did you have something like that with your app apps workouts yeah um you know I'm pretty geared like seeing and feeling results and driven like that way um I I don't want I don't want to stop because I want to continue to feel results and that's um just like the bottom line for me it's like okay I can do this it's not really that hard I know if I keep doing it I'll just get easier and I'll see and feel results so yeah but this I guess something that you did mention uh is that at the end you did that longer workout and you were surprised yourself that it was way easier than you expected so I guess that that's kind of a rewarding sense as well I imagine yeah absolutely yeah and the most of the reasons why am I I mean two minutes three minutes I would stick to um I do work out a long time usually like I'll ride my bike for 10 or 15 miles I'll do a yoga class on top of that so if I had more time just to do abs I probably would but I just added it incorporated it into my other working out okay nice uh you know there's something you remind me of too and uh it's something I mean I experienced that in yoga to begin with when I used to practice it all the time uh but I think it applies to other fields as well is uh that the muscles we don't like to stretch most or the the exercises we don't like most are oftentimes the ones we actually need the most yeah right so I think it's such a good way to not do the ones where I like I'm really good at this it's so easy for me and that's what I do but on the other way just like look at this like I hate doing this probably that means I need this and to do this I think that's really cool and awesome yeah I've learned that in yoga as well nice and April uh something I wanted to ask you is you mentioned uh if I caught that right you don't like filming yourself and I hate it too you hate it so that's even better because you just if somebody's watching this without being involved in the group or anything I want it to just say to everyone that you filmed yourself a lot like you you shared so many of your videos which is really great you shared some some great insights and some emotions which were very touching but it's so interesting to hear that you actually were not keen on doing that like you did it anyway so how was that process for you I I mean I guess like when I'm thinking about it that it's actually something that was more of the challenge than the reading part you know um but uh watching your video and watching Kate's video meant something to me so I was like obviously this is going to help someone else too you know so it's less about how much I disliked it but more about maybe it's going to help someone else so that's what I had to kept telling myself like okay this is not for me this is uncomfortable but this is maybe gonna make someone else feel something or be better or I don't know yeah it was not not my favorite thing did you feel like you started to isn't it by the end of the 24 days yeah that or um it was just like uh it couldn't be worse than the other one I did or more they already know I'm weird so this is fine I don't yeah yeah I mean it wasn't it's not as hard it wasn't as hard towards the end for sure it was more like um just doing it I guess that and I didn't ever like start a recording and then like oh delete that one I mean I just would go like if I said something dumb or mess up whatever just it's there I'll fix it in the typing part that's great I really like that approach and sometimes I feel like people miss that it's kind of I don't know if you guys heard about the 2080 rule like where 20% of your result your effort creates 80% of the result and so many times people are the other way around they want that perfection which sometimes leads to doing nothing so so I like when you just do things and you put it out there and then you improve the next time versus just trying to nail it uh but but something I wanted to say is uh I really you mentioned like you were putting it out and having that feeling that maybe this is going to help someone out and uh I I can see it on myself like watching your videos I they would touch me they would inspire me and and as everyone mentioned like there's up and down days obviously that happens to me as well and in my down days I think that that's specifically that there was a day where you where you got more emotional and you shared how how much that practice doing it with other people that meant a lot to you and I think I had a down day at that moment and I watched that video of yours and I was like oh this is so good let's keep on doing this so and the funny thing is you know sometimes we don't share uh like I don't remember if I specifically I probably specifically did not say that uh I don't remember how what I commented that day but that's the funny part is we keep putting ourselves out there and we we don't get the feedback back that somebody got inspired and sometimes we don't even know but it works it does so I think it's really cool and and Kate you did you have the process you mentioned as well like video was not your thing but but you did a lot of video too so how was it for you um yeah I don't articulate well and I have a kind of a stutter uh I can get through it but sometimes I don't find my words very well so I just say whatever is in my head and it's ridiculous half the time but I usually my motto is is long as someone's laughing and if that person's only me then I don't even care um so I kind of got that in my head I'm like I'm just gonna video this and do it and it was silly but it was fun too like I said going back and looking at the journey and and all my videos um made it even more fun with for me and looking at everybody else's stuff you know when there was a hard day looking at that video I would go back and look at April's and Amanda's and I'm like oh my gosh and Heather's Heather's were fantastic she always had like blowing glasses and beyond and they were just they were a lot of fun and I love I love that we had another girl that did it broke us there's a quite a few other ladies that did this with us and we had a private group I think there was how many of eight of us six of us um how about six that actually posted stuff Leah Kate the other Kate Kate right Katie Katie yeah yeah um and oh Katie Wyngett she's an Alberta SBG Steve Katie and Edmonton so she was running as well and she did stairs and everything and she just put she would post her entire two minutes you wouldn't hear her say anything she'd just start jogging and at the end she waved and that was it it was great my favorite work were you guys just video watching the videos were really my favorite parts yeah I think for me um I don't know what I disliked more like running or videoing myself I have never prior to this challenge this 24 days I had never held a phone up to like record myself speaking and so it was weird it was super strange completely outside my comfort zone but by the time I was finished I didn't feel so weird and awkward holding my phone up to record myself but um I only did a couple of videos for that reason is because I'm just a perfectionist and I need like everything to be in order and everything is correct and I'm not like Kate where I can just kind of roll with the punches and and April who's just literally all the time and hit submit it's like I struggle with that so um I'm working on it and hopefully with my next challenge I'll be a little bit more comfortable where I can I don't know film some of my archery shots for my my next challenge so that'd be fun very cool uh you mentioned that there's more women that did this together and that's one of the questions I want to ask is how did the whole thing start uh I mean how how did it roll out and and also how did everyone feel when so as far as I understand Kate engaged that idea so when when you heard about the idea what went for your mind so kind of those two parts so how did it start and what was your first impression well you started it so I looked at your entire video and your every day and when you got sick and didn't run but you were still posting every day about that and that's what I let the girls know in our our thread hey even if you don't do it post about it you have to post why you're not doing it um because I think that's part of the pressure testing process is that I mean it's kind of like when you're dieting and you have to write everything down and then you have to write those three ore Oreos that you ate that's the hardest part is writing though those Oreos down you're like I can just lie and not write it down but who I mean you're only cheating yourself so by not posting the days that you don't do it um is a disservice to yourself I think so I and uh yeah you started it so watching you doing it I was so excited to do it I'm like I'm gonna do this I hope bunch of people want to do it with me and the girls that did it with me they're so amazing it made me so happy I loved it so how was it for everyone to to be engaged with that idea did you jump in right away and you thought this is great or did you have some doubts was it easy to to start the process well at first I I think I was like I don't I don't know what I'm committing to here but it sounds fun so let's go ahead and try it and then there was a kind of a thought in the back of my mind that was I don't know if anybody's gonna stick to this you know but it seems really cool I watched your videos and and I was like what better time to start something like this than when I'm not going to work right now I mean I'm making online videos but it takes me an hour and a half or so per week and then I post my videos um every day for all my fitness students but it's like what better time to start something like this to keep my mind busy it's healthy I'm a fitness coach I need to stay in shape and so I was like I'll give it a try tell my husband about it he's like yeah cool that's cool you know I'm thinking I'm not gonna stick to it but I did and yeah it's it's been quite a whirlwind of an experience and I'm really surprised and pleased that so many people stuck with it and posted about it and it's very cool very cool challenge we just did anyone else I jumped in right away just because I like challenges and I thought well this sounds pretty simple um like everyone else here I think the hardest part is the video part and um just kind of being real because you're not always perfect you can't you know when you get home from work or first thing in the morning is like usually when I work out I'm not made up my hair's not done like you know I just like okay I'm just gonna go with it um you know I know Kate and I know that she's a commitment type of person so I'm like I know she'll do it I for sure I'm gonna do it regardless of how many people drop out you know it's just a good I don't usually drop out of challenges and it was a good challenge uh for myself with the video and I think I jumped on because I was looking for something to do and watching Roka's video was like oh this is sweet and it shows like a progression so if I'm doing it correctly and I do do some videos or journal about like the day or whatever um it would show me something about myself too so that's kind of what I thought was cool is that and then I wasn't alone there was other people that were like yes I'm doing this I'm like okay I got this there's something too uh so so Kate you took uh you mentioned you watched the video where I did the two-minute uh real pressure test and I did it for 10 days but then you kind of took it the next level further and you you did it for the 24 days where uh there's it's probably uh from something that I heard as well about that if you do it for 24 days that there's that theory idea that you will get into that new habit and it will become natural so so it was really cool it was that was that the uh initial idea just double check and so sorry did you want to ask add something else nope you're good so uh so you pushed it to the next level you did that and now it's been it's today's day 25 right right and how was that all experience of committing to 24 days and and do you feel like it worked do you feel like the pressure test worked and uh do you feel like that idea of doing it for that long did that develop into habit or was it more or less so so how was everyone's experience with that pressure test i i think it definitely um i do need that uh that i she said april said something about progression you know going through this and getting better and better and better at it and that's something that didn't happen with me um but i i wanted to go run and that was the difference it wasn't about um getting better at the running and having to like uh succeed at this oh i can run farther and faster and better and whatever it was just me wanting to go do it and that was a big huge step for me so um i think by doing this i didn't uh by not getting 10 minutes every single day was definitely not a failure for me it was more of the decision of oh goody i get to go do this today this is something i i want to go do um and the 24 days uh yeah kind of made it a habit i think 10 days um wasn't enough for me because i don't think that i would have developed that love of wanting to get up and go do it and be accountable to you girls and you rocus and i just uh yeah the 24 days definitely helped me make it become a habit and it makes me want to do the grouping the other things that you talked about i want to go do a million more things so i have to focus on it i'm like okay i'm just gonna do two so i don't burn myself out but uh yeah i loved it i am the two minutes 24 days i think is something that is important i'm glad that you touched on this rocus because i i thought about how 24 days seems like such a long ways away and it was one of the mental block at some points where i felt so far away from the 24 days but when i look back at the point at which i had an enjoyable experience with running it was around that day 12 or 13 mark and um i don't know if i would have reached that level of enjoyment if i would have only done 10 days so part of me in my mind is like i want to keep the challenges at 10 days and see how how it works out but in the back of my mind i know that we should do probably 15 at a minimum for me especially to um to develop that habit because 10 days is kind of like uh uh it's over before i can really make it a habit type thing and then move on to the next thing and then it kind of just seems like busy work for me so um i think keeping the longer challenges i don't know if you're gonna do 24 days with the next uh archery challenge with a couple one other thing in there but um yeah i'm down for i'm down for 15 20 24 days whatever it is and reporting with each other but i do think doing beyond 10 days well rocus is the pressure test and and the reading part of like you give some advice and you tell them hey we should do this but you've never done it yourself even though it's like a good idea and then you spread that message like well exist for 24 days that becomes a habit how do you know that i mean have you tried that so that really caught my attention and that's something i'm like yes i definitely want to do and i read that that somewhere that it was like all the time i see it 24 days creates a habit 25 and i've never ever ever pressure tested it and it was i mean so i wanted to put that into the play of what rocus was touching on with the the two-minute rule because that was part of it he's like well the two-minute rule but we've never i've never tried it so i don't know if it's really real it sounds right it sounds good sounds right so the 24th day thing and the archery challenge with amanda that's right up my alley i do not shoot my bow enough i go out and a couple of days here and that's it so the 24 days is going to be so we had there april how was the 24 days for you like do you feel like that developed into habit was that a successful amount of time and so how was your experience um yeah i think that's a good amount of time for sure and like everybody else said 10 days you know it's easy to forget forget about it i think um i like that time frame at least you know like like everyone else said um 15 20 25 30 i think that's the longer it definitely feels like more like you're building that habit yeah i think i agree if it was only 10 days that's yeah i think longer is better for any kind of habit that you're going to get into just on the record i completely agree to be honest i did the 10 days because i wanted to make sure i make that video and you know because otherwise it would take forever for me to do it maybe probably i should do more 24 days videos in the future but i think i agree i think 24 days is great but something i wanted to ask though is so let's say the idea was to pressure test the idea that that famous quote that 24 days if you do something for 24 days eventually it will become a habit i was always curious about that idea as well and part of me was a bit skeptical part of me was was thinking i guess it kind of makes sense but now all four of you did it so let's say somebody comes to you and says oh you heard that 24 days you developed that into habit what's your what is going to be your answer so are you gonna say like yeah i did it it works it's absolutely true or is it going to be more well i guess it works i did it but so what's what would be your answer to the person after you pressure tested that well it's up to you to just continue to do that habit like it's it's not like just there you still have to work at it and just keep going so i think it just makes it easier for that to stick but you have to make yourself continue to do that i don't know yeah i think it's the discipline part i mean yeah i think it became a habit for me but it can easily not be a habit again as well because the 24 days is over it is discipline and and part motivation i think the motivation is a very like two percent and discipline is 98 percent because without you ladies not that you guys are two percent you're totally a hundred percent but without you ladies um giving me that motivation i might not have finished i know i wouldn't have so i needed that accountability that motivation um so somebody out there doing this by themselves definitely could do it if the discipline is there but that motivation is just really sweet sorry my dog is barking outside because i'm getting a delivery so i muted my mic um yeah i i think that the whole remind me of the question the idea is that 24 days you do it and that develops into habit and the whole project was kind of pressure testing whether that idea is real or not so after really having done do you say that that idea is true or somewhere in the middle or no yeah so um if somebody were to walk up to me and say does 24 days create a habit uh how do i form a new habit i want to i want to make my bed every day you know i can give them the jocco answer and be like make your bed every day or eat healthy go running you know the obvious answer but i think that in the long run it's finding out what you're capable of really um there are so many excuses out there and trust me being a fitness coach i've heard them all i've heard everything from i don't have the money i don't have the time i don't have the motivation i don't have the good circle friends all of the things like uh it's raining outside today the weather the wind um those are all real excuses that i've heard for people that can't come into this class and we give ourselves those excuses all the time of i'm not feeling it today or i'm not motivated today or whatever your excuse might be i mean we're really good creatures that coming up with excuses when it comes to something difficult um but this challenge i think of pressure testing is really honestly finding out what you're capable of and how it was raining or snowing that day yet i still did it and finding out how to not create those roadblocks and the excuses in your life um is really what i found out like snow rain cold 16 degrees not feeling it that kind of thing i still went out and did it so um i don't know about creating a habit that just comes with your mental toughness but i think once you find out what you are capable of and how to get past those excuses i think that you can make it a habit i think i think the 24 days just if you can commit to doing something for 24 days it it helps remove those barriers like i can't or all of the excuses because you're giving yourself a set amount of time and so for me and other challenges i've done like um at the gym you know transformation challenge was more showing myself i could be consistent with x amount of workouts a week and i could be consistent with what i'm putting in my body and i could be consistent in eating breakfast instead of skipping it and so i think having that set time of committing to something helps remove barriers in your brain to commit to doing something good for yourself so for me i think i would say well it worked for me but at the same time you know maybe somebody else's timeframe would be 40 days they need to do something for 40 days to prove to themselves that they can do it um i think 24 days for that specific you know reading um definitely helps me add it into my daily routine without thinking about it something more difficult like physical exercise or running or whoever did plank i was like holy cow let's know um i think it would take a longer period of time for me to have something like that built in um a longer period of time to remove the barriers in my brain so um interesting question uh i have a half-assed idea myself like a theory why that happened but the question is uh because i'm really curious to hear everyone's opinion so your group that was formed together was women i think there was no guy involved from your circle although i saw Kate uh few at least a few times mentioning so guys joined this in as well it wasn't like guys were excluded so i'm very interested to hear like what do you think was the reason for that why do you think it was only women that made the pack and the guys didn't jump into it i'm not sure uh i think maybe if my husband started this with me there would be men involved but but i think that just um you know i don't know i i i had a male ego this is the perfect time to say something meaning about men i'm not real sure i had some guys two of them reach out to me message me and say what are you doing what's this all about so i didn't you know invite them and and let them know what it was but they didn't engage or they could have they just haven't told me so uh and i shared your link several times i don't know um i think women are just a little bit more into the these these types of chat i did lose my connection at a certain point so um i'm thinking where was it so some some guys reached out to you Kate uh but you don't know if they engaged or not i think you your last thought was maybe women are more into challenges like that uh but i think so and it's a comfort thing you know they men and thinking maybe it's silly or whatever or having another guy look at i mean like i did share your video um several times in your link i think just women are a little bit more interested in that and they're like oh whatever but when amanda was saying that her husband um if you want to repeat what you said amanda about the your husband saying engaging in the yeah for sure when when i was uh when i first mentioned to will uh what this whole challenge was and what i was doing he was he was like fleshing arrows or doing something i can't remember what he was doing but he just kind of looked up and he was like yeah that's cool you know and he was he was being supportive and everything but it was like yeah that's that's really cool that he found something to do and he was super interested in what he was doing but i don't think that he thought that i was serious about this challenge um and he didn't think that this was something that we were actually going to do and so i think now that we're finished we've reached our 24 days and he sees that i've experienced a benefit from it and now my next uh challenge or activity that i'll be doing every day and will involve him because uh we're both really into archery uh he builds his own arrows we do that together as a family our kids shoot everything like that so i think that i'll be able to get my husband on board uh kate you might be able to get mic on board and we'll we'll all be able to we'll get a couple men in the group so i think that if if we do something like archery or something that our husbands are interested in or will do uh i think it's important we should talk to them and see if we can get them get them uh on board with us i do know that i mentioned my husband just gave me thumbs up uh i i mentioned the archery i was like the next 24 we're gonna do we're gonna shoot and i think in between my shoots i'm gonna incorporate pushups or something like that because i want to do grouping so i do want to uh do something else as well i know that's going to be silly but i need to do it um and my husband was all about it he's like yeah i'll do the archery shoot with you i don't think he's going to do the grouping with me but maybe uh there's a couple of thoughts running through my mind and very quickly especially on the grouping and doing pushups in between you're minding me i actually because when i read about grouping i already was invested in it because i did some very similar practice in the past and it'd be very successful for me so i just pressure tested it again to double check but you reminded me that in the past i i like video games up to today but obviously in my teens i used to play much more and when the games were loading into the past sometimes it would take forever i would go and do pushups and that was actually a very good practice i did a lot of pushups like that so instead of just sitting there looking at my screen so i think that's a brilliant idea may look strange to others but i don't know if that's you know good enough reason not to do it but uh yeah good i have to mention that every single time i go to the bathroom and people are like what you do what and they're grossed out by it but every single time i go to the bathroom except in a public public bathroom i do it at work and home um i get down and do 10 pushups and i do 10 squats and i then i wash my hands i know i mean you're gonna wash your hands anyway so after i do my duty and then i wash my hands and during my washing my hands i squat 10 times so i wash my hands that entire time i and i've done this for 20 years wow that's a good pressure test it's so weird but whatever no it's great it's great and also too at april shared that she was grouping a bathroom with um reading so so that's that seems like it's maybe just one of those things we don't talk about but everybody does it not everybody but maybe it's more common than we think uh but i got a great Heather oh i was gonna say i gotta run soon my house holds up and ready for uh oh a meal okay so do you need to uh are you ending your conversation right now or in a couple minutes yeah okay so let's see uh so the rest do we still have a few more minutes afterwards yeah okay so just Heather before you leave i'll ask this question everyone else later but the final question would be so i'd like to ask you now what's next for you in terms of the two-minute rule 24 days uh because you mentioned you already have you're already sportive and you're doing things so it's not new new for you but what do you think are you still planning to do some type of two-minute rule or anything else what's on your um i'm going to continue to do the abs i i do actually have another goal it's not fitness related i'm just going to commit to doing the uh studying for my test for my exam for my final exam till june so i have i want to commit to do that every day um at least well i'll say two minutes but at least like 10 minutes a day nice yeah will you please post about it still oh yeah yeah if you want to of course i will yes i'm really interesting things about ears yeah very cool well i'll i'll keep on jumping to the next questions but uh how much more time do you have Heather or uh one more question maybe okay let's see what's what's on my list well i guess your opinion while you're still here your opinion on the guys thing what do you think like do you have an idea of why there were no more guys in your specific pack um i don't know i guess a lot of these things uh group i mean i have i've belonged to like three different fitness uh groups um i the one i started was just for women um the second one i believe is also women so it didn't really surprise me um i know it was open to all guys and my husband never said anything about it it's not his thing um but i was kind of surprised that mike didn't jump in because i thought he was going to Kate said mention that um so i was kind of looking forward to a diverse group but um i don't know i'm not sure are they intimidated i don't know yeah because i i guess what was on my mind too is i was reflecting about that and i think it's a big thing i think it's just kind of that's the way it happened and maybe because Kate was the one who initiated it and then i think it's just natural that guys are more drawn into a pack of guys and vice versa and if there's like a i know in yoga because i used to teach yoga that would happen like if there was a woman instructor and there were like 12 women and a guy would come in he would want to do it but he would just feel like he's it would be hard for most guys because they would feel like they don't belong there and i guess it would happen the other way around like if there's like it's that's even jujitsu club 20 guys for one women i guess it's it's not easy until it becomes more and more like it kind of equalizes so i guess it's maybe that but Heather you wanted to say something about that ori um i i don't know i've never felt that out of place being with a bunch of guys one or two women um i have seen what you were talking about in yoga classes uh sometimes we'll have one guy two guys and then all of a sudden there's no man in the class um i live with three men so i'm not really uh intimidated by the male factor but um yeah it's interesting though he man woman haters sorry anyway but yeah uh i guess but another thought i had is maybe maybe again maybe i'm just putting too much focus on this but i'm just interested to kind of reflect about it and i thought maybe another one is vulnerability because guys especially if we were talking about doing something you're not used to doing i think there's also to me speaking out as a guy i think i got over that but but i still related that maybe for guys it's more difficult to show themselves basically like you always filming yourself and sharing when you're not very good at it yet i would presume and imagine that guys are more like if i show something on video it's you know i i need to do it good i i don't want to show myself being half ass and not really doing it well so i don't know if that's a thing or not because i definitely think that's a thing no i'm sorry i interrupted you i think that men sharing period is tough except to your significant other probably and i mean you are vulnerable i mean putting your face on camera and saying hey i feel this way about that guys just don't do that very often at all so that that right there would be a commitment to them and a pressure testing process just getting a video in their face and talking about their feelings about what they did yeah for sure yeah my husband is kind of the same way in the sense that uh he doesn't feel like he needs to post everything on facebook he makes he doesn't have a facebook actually he's got an instagram now he deleted his facebook but uh he doesn't feel the need to post everything that he does on facebook in order to feel like he's accomplished something um so i think that's where it comes in with my husband what okay sorry it's recorded calling that's okay he he doesn't the accountability factor of us posting and sharing every day about what it is that we've done um he feels like it's enough satisfaction for him to just do it and then know that he did it so um i think that that that has something do you guys know what i'm saying it's kind of like uh yeah same with you i totally yeah i understand that and i get that i i sometimes feel the same way hey if you're gonna do something just do it you don't need an audience you don't need a pat on the back you just go i can do it right um i also think that you sharing and heather sharing and april sharing and roka sharing and and um just all of us sharing inspires somebody whether it's one person out there to just like oh two minutes that's ridiculous you know i can do that um and maybe realizing wow two minutes out of the day is really hard to figure out i i think that's important um because i i i could get rid of my facebook in a heartbeat i can't i i could live off grid and not worry about it but i also love the interaction with you ladies you know i could just do it on messenger and that would be completely fine with me if that private messenger so i understand that completely but i i do also think that um if i didn't post this video i wouldn't have this connection with you girls so and that's important to me really important nice uh before i head on to the next question heather do you want us to just let you go or do you want to stick around until the last moment you can or um how much how much longer do you guys think you'll be going i think if everyone is okay with that 15 more minutes um it's fine my husband left already so oh my god sorry okay so i guess we just continue um so the the next question i wanted to ask everyone is uh so what was the most difficult thing for you in the process so we're we're talking about the importance of sharing that not not for ourselves also i guess the whole documenting does help uh but we also kind of recognize that it's important to share to share it to others and to inspire others as much as ourselves uh so in in regards to other people and your next period of doing that again what what's your advice for your next 24 days or for anyone who wants to start doing that as well what did you learn like how to overcome the difficulties that came around okay i guess you're the first sorry um uh the difficulties was like making a certain time to do it i think i talked about it in one of the videos like if i could just do this every day at this time um and then i wouldn't have to worry about it at night where i'm like oh shit i gotta go run i haven't ran yet um that didn't work out for me that was a lovely idea i just because of this i i think the circumstances would have been different it's a coronavirus thing didn't happen right all of our routines kind of fell off so i think that um you're not going to the gym anymore not doing certain things exactly at the same time really threw me for a loop and that's probably why i didn't have it as a routine i think uh normal work days normal normal time i would have found that specific time to do it every single day um so that was one of the challenges for me but i did roll out a bed one night and go running because i had forgotten um and i was sick for four days i think i didn't run and that was the challenge there was not being able to run and really wanting to and making myself rest that was hard and then i had some issues with my calves i still ran but i had to run flat-footed so i think that everybody's going to go through those like those little itty bitty tidbit things like oh my gosh my body's not used to this by day three you're like ow this sucks um and you have to push through those two minutes and i think that it's important to tell people that it's gonna hurt and it's gonna suck every now and then but just keep doing it your lotion is motion man i like that the lotion is um motion yeah right motion is lotion what's most difficult um for me was when i get into i mean you could call it a pity party you can call it a woe is me moment but i had one and during this this uh coronavirus outbreak like kate mentioned it's i i got into like this state of anxiety and depression really where i can't go to the gym i i can't go teach my fitness classes i have to go online now which doesn't give me that gratification as a fitness coach to you gave me to um be there with them coaching them the hands-on experience that that i need in order to be a good coach i didn't have that so that was gone i didn't have my jujitsu classes in callus bell um with all of my friends and i'm an introvert a really big introvert by nature and i don't mind being alone but when i'm socially isolated it's it's it's sad for me and i don't feel if i don't feel connected to my people then i just feel sad and so um i had a couple of days there where i had basically had to pick myself up and just keep going and that kate reached out to me too so if i wasn't a part of this group like kate checked in on me she sent me a message like hey um what's going on you know like how's it going just checking in and i was like well here's the thing you know and i told her i'm having a hard time and but you know what i'm gonna go run and so after that i was back on track but i don't think that i would have continued if it weren't for the accountability so i mean that's difficult to pick yourself up when you're down and then advice as far as advice for the the next person is have a group have a tribe my tribe is strong it's worldwide um sbg like once i joined sbg i i kind of left the group of people who weren't helping me get better and motivating me and inspiring me to be a better person every day so having my tribe worldwide of sbg members and getting close to all you ladies heather kate april roca's everybody that was in our group um you guys just kind we were there i was accountable so have a have a circle that you're accountable to and you can you can get it done definitely i think you guys said it all it's basically you have you know for someone that wanted to try this definitely you need to at least have one buddy that's doing it with you um to be accountable and for some reason for me the bigger part was um seeing everyone else like it wasn't as much about getting my stuff done i was looking forward to also seeing everyone else's journey and um knowing that we all struggle at different times you know like we're all human we're gonna have good days but um if i wasn't doing this with other people it would have been really easy just to like not do it so heather yeah i totally agree um for that reason i mean i have like i said before i have a couple different fitness groups that i belong to um and it's just it's good to see everybody um everybody's input and successes and motivation and willingness to um put themselves out there and be accountable and and then it does it influences you and it creates more enthusiasm and motivation to keep going and i mean not that you have to prove to anyone else but it's kind of like just self motivation and to see everybody else going and i don't know i think it just we it feeds everybody it feeds off each other you feed you know energies like that i think it just you put yourself in those circles or situations or in groups that everybody has this this healthy energy out there and we really need that right now yeah yeah that's uh actually just remembered uh something we discussed in in the two minute rule club uh that well obviously as as you all mentioned it's the special period in the world quarantine and all that uh do you feel like because of all the chaos that is going around it's a commitment such as the two minute rule or or anything similar that you did like that did that help you specifically to kind of ease into the whole situation or or it didn't so what's what's your experience do you feel like basically just clear up the question so do you feel like a commitment like this helped you in this process or or not um i guess i'll answer first i think that this type of thing is is so much needed right now especially in this time we're in right now where everything's so negative and scary and and just having a group of positive people and positive experiences and positive women and men and whoever else wants to join um super important right now especially right now yeah i agree these times are just kind of weird and and nobody knows really what's going to happen or what's going on or you know how long this is going to last and having this is unbelievably important to me there was a couple of times where i got emotional i'm probably gonna get emotional right now yep there goes i needed this so and i thank you guys for doing it with me same kate i now i get emotional because you get emotional and it's sorry it's it's really easy to just disconnect when we are socially isolated and we have to quarantine and we can't go on walks with our neighbors or get together with our friends and the hardest part for me is not being able to um hug my mom and it hurts and so to have a group of people that we can reach out to and share our positive experiences with is so so so important to surround you like get rid of the negativity surround yourself with positive people positive news like continue to improve yourself and this this has helped me and all of you guys so much to get through such a hard time because for so many people like depression is sinking in and it's deep and it is so hard to reach out sometimes so uh i think that we could invite more people like show them hey this is what this has done for me don't seclude yourself in your in your house like we have this beautiful program the zoom i didn't even know it existed until today where we can talk from opposite ends of the world and it's it's amazing there's so much good in this world people are good you can see it all around you if you look for it yeah this definitely has kept me slightly sane for sure there's been i i always thought that i'm not social i don't need all that stuff and then i'm like oh my gosh when i can't go on a you know go to derby and i can't see all these people and um you know thinking about the patients i'm taking care of and why it's important for me to not give in to like my own selfishness of me to go see my friends and uh has definitely been um challenging and so it it has been nice to be able to do this and connecting with people i wouldn't have connected with um if it wasn't for this challenge and i've had several people like even family members message me and like what are you doing again and i shared roka's video um to several people again like i'm not sure if they decided to do it on their own without um sharing or um if they were just sort of curious but not curious enough to take the bite um but i did i had lots of people like what are you doing what are you reading what is this you know so um it helped me connect to people um even though i was i don't know it's just something to look forward to um something that you know social in a different way i guess that kind of reminds me of there's a there's this theory called crossing the chasm if i'm pronouncing that right uh where there's initially people who are jumping into something they they're enthusiastic about they like the idea and they jump on it right away but that's the minority the majority they need to see time and time and time again they need to other people to prove that it works and and that's only when they join in but so i kind of have the feeling that this may happen if we continue to do this and we commit to this process how we inspired each other as and as some of you mentioned even after this already happened for 24 days there's a chance that even some guys will join in even your your your tight pack so yeah i think it's it's it's awesome that it's happening and and i really appreciate all of you also sharing that um that's from an emotional place it's means a lot to me as well i i know when we were when i'm running and i'm getting closer to my house to end it it's overwhelming to me it's just like yay i get to tell the girls i finish it's pretty awesome feeling that's what you think there is a you we spoke about a little bit about tribe and actually before before i asked that specific question i i don't know everyone's background so i wanted to double check is everyone here jing jiu jitsu and is part of sbg or so who's not amanda and i are sbg um and april is roller derby and i used to be roller derby is Heather are you training also jiu jitsu or i think i saw pictures of crossfit no i'm not i don't do crossfit i don't do jiu jitsu um i i do my own thing i mean you're just a tough person well i don't know i i uh i go to i do classes in the morning before i go to work um basically in the winter i just do whatever to get me through to get into good um conditioning shape i run i'm a runner i was going to do bloomsday it just got postponed till september um i do spartan race every year and i just hike and climb all summer she's a beast my free time that's beyond crossfit um well that's so that that's even more cool because i was i kept wondering and guessing whether we're all already part of you know sbg and and that's kind of one of the uniting tissues but it's it's really cool for me to hear that that's not the case um but speaking of tribes speaking of other people something i wanted to ask about is so there's two groups there's your tight pack which i'm actually very excited and happy that that you formed and but also as you know and mostly you're also part of the tunet rule club which i started as a group inspired by actually you all coming together uh but so i'm curious to ask so what do you feel like because it's a it's internet it's a social media platform but what do you feel it helps in regards to that like what would be your advice in improving the group from your experience so far both from being in your tight group and observing the the bigger group like what do you what do you think should be done to keep this going and to make the group even better oh pruning pruning your group is hard it is so hard and i think that when we weed out the people who are negative or bringing us down or or taking that leap is so hard but i think for me it kind of naturally happened when my husband and i and our two kids all joined jujitsu on the same day and then we just dove in head first i didn't even know what martial arts was and i've been at it two and a half years now and um i think it just naturally happened where my lifestyle no longer fit with the people who were doing this in life and we just kind of naturally drifted apart so i got lucky in that sense that i didn't have to prune my group and cut out anybody who was bringing me down or anything like that i don't really have anybody like that in my life but if you do um i would highly suggest surrounding yourself immersing yourself in a group of people that are so positive that you don't have time for that negativity anymore and it just kind of drifts out of your life um don't feed it don't feed the beast what about in regards to specifically working and making that group even better do you have some observations like what what helped you and like looking at the the social media like facebook your your your personal group where all of you are there with kate and looking at the bigger two minute rule club like what do you feel helped tighten that group or or could be improved um the video checking in sharing our stories being uh having having an area where we are free to share our the struggles and and the hardships along with the beautiful accomplishments and all of that so creating a an atmosphere where people feel safe to share the hard and and people are sharing the hard stuff because as we know social media has always been such a highlight reel of all the good things and so people feel if they come into the two minute rule club and all they see is positive good things they're going to look at their own life and go well i don't fit in here because i have hardships right so i think that the raw honesty especially with uh if you wrote us when you shared that that first video of like hey this is hard you know it's gonna be hard and being honest about how difficult it's gonna be uh that that brings your your tribe your group of people together with more genuine folks that want to participate that's really great advice thank you i agree i think when people see um if they decide to to dive in or commit or or watch or whatever from the outside world or inside and realize that that nobody's perfect and nobody's um you know everybody has bad days i think that it just the realness of it is what makes it more attractive that makes it more um less intimidating i guess for people i would hope um encouraging participation from everybody in my little groups is kind of where i feel like it could bring more in i mean there's a lot always by standards always people that are watching you know with the watchers but not the participators but i think when you make it real and you add that realness effect to it um that helps bring everybody closer i think okay are you up to the question like the active question um i lost um my phone died so i didn't hear your back that's what matters no worries the question is that i wanted to ask is the importance of tribe and my question was there's two groups there's the type pack you have of uh of your your private group and also there's the two minute club the open club uh so from both experiences what do you feel worked and what could be improved in terms of gathering a tribe making a type and maybe even growing it and uh yeah but i think the um the personal messenger tribe our little tribe that we have together it was way more personal and more committed the the two minute club i think could be that way but um it's not for whatever reason i'm not i don't know um maybe it's because people you know when they go in they're like oh yeah two minute club okay so you know i think there's a rule set that needs to be put on it maybe hey if you're going to join this club this is something you need to be dedicated to um not just willy nilly we really want to succeed at this so you you post every single day for 24 days if you don't do it um you post anyway and if you you don't want to commit to that i don't know i don't want to say that you can't be a part of it because that's ridiculous but um because people are just going to drop off and just disappear we did have a couple of girls that were kind of like that on our private group uh because that's going to happen but i think um reiterating the point that hey this is something that we want to hear from you we want to see your face we want to know what you're doing for two minutes every day and how did it feel you know and if you didn't do it how does that feel yeah actually something well well you were um disconnected i wanted to mention that amanda and hither uh spoke about something that really touched me as well was the that it's important to share not only the positives like not to go in and see that the group is all like oh everyone is doing it and everyone is having an easy time but instead to share both sides to have an honest group i found it to be a really beautiful idea and it seems like you're speaking about something similar as well so i i definitely i like that a lot i think sharing the not the days that you don't do it um are just important yeah they're so important it's like oh okay so when i when i didn't succeed it everybody else is on it's the same for everybody else we're not all superheroes and we can't i mean it's two minutes a day and i you know what i mean it's just that it helps you through it that we're all going through the same thing we all struggle the struggles are so much more important than the victories i think but april did you want to add something i was saying for the for the the bigger group i think the videos are important like um if i just saw screenshots of everybody's timer and like a little description of what they did i don't think that um it would motivate me as well as seeing the videos and people share i mean that's just so much more personal um so i think you know i don't know how you get a larger group to be more intimate or be more successful but um having folks post videos is definitely i think a motivating factor that's also actually something uh i wanted to ask from listening into conversation from listening to what you said uh i'm contemplating this in the back of my mind uh whether it is a good idea and i'm kind of leaning to that is to actually set up that guideline that you do have to post your experience you do have to share uh that you're doing it and uh i guess on a rational level it seems a bit dangerous because it can kind of kill off a lot of people who are not capable of doing that but at the same time if they're not doing then what's the point in being that group maybe can be inspiring because you're looking at others and they're doing it and eventually join but i don't know it's part of me feels like maybe that should be done maybe maybe that guideline should be there like when you commit you commit and maybe you don't have this commit on day one but when you do you do so obviously that's it sounds a bit dangerous because you feel like if we're gonna push people too far then it's gonna happen at all but if we're not doing this seriously then why are we doing this at all so what what do you think do you think that would be a good idea to make that guideline yeah i think um it's it's easy to not like if you join the the two-minute rule club i don't know how many members are in there now is it a couple hundred no no it's only 65 but still you know it's not 10 yeah so if you join if you join the the two-minute rule club and you don't have like our little group of people that we already established it would be easy to just not post and have nobody notice you know so um how how you make that more intimate is uh i think creating what we created beforehand getting with one or two other people and then after you have your accountability with one or two other people um then post to that two-minute rule club share your struggles share your accomplishments things like that in order to help motivate people and then jump on there and and get motivated yourself so i think this this little group of people that we had um have here uh is really important i do want to say that um with so many people posting you would you could get lost in it to there it's just like wow i can't look at all these all day long you know there's no way so there is that so the club might just you know you the guideline could be there but um i think people could get lost in it as well because there's not that that that personal person for them and that could be something hey find somebody on here that you want to follow it doesn't have to be 10 people find that one person and be accountable to each other um and and somebody you don't know and you can meet them and learn about them as well in their life and i think that that's something that you could bring into it like all right team up with somebody on here and i think that's really cool i agree so should i post that last video that i made in our chat never posted yesterday okay guys i'm signing off i um i need to run bye other thank you very much for for joining us thank you see you soon um so i am i'll actually ask the last the very last question since we are taking a bit longer than than i promised uh but so the last official question i wanted to ask is what's next what's the next plan mine's gonna be the archery with um amanda uh shooting my bow um it's not something that is uh that i hate to do by any means but it is challenging to do especially you know when there's snow and you know your house isn't 20 yards just kidding can't shoot indoors um so that it is going to be a challenge to do and i don't do it enough i am going to be shooting at a live animal and i want to make a kill shot i don't want to wound an animal and have to track it and that is something that's extremely important to me so practicing something that is um that important i want it i want to dial it in and i want to dial it in real tight um and also grouping i want to do the grouping so i'm going to be doing you know i'll probably have my husband he's gonna do it with me so while he shoots i do push-ups and then we switch off and we usually shoot anywhere from four to eight arrows so it might not be a two-minute consistency thing um like i'm not doing push-ups for two minutes but i'm grouping the two together um for at least two minutes and it's probably gonna end up being 20 to 30 right nice yeah fame uh next for me is going to be archery as well i've been hunting ever since i was in eighth grade and every year um i've been a deer hunter ever since eighth grade and there's only been like two years or so between that age and now where i haven't filled my tag so uh it is important to me as well i just got into archery three years ago three or four years ago um and so it's important for the same reasons as kate mentioned um wanting to be ethical and be confident in my shot um if i want to take my bow out in the woods i've rifle hunted my whole life and that's easy in comparison to archery um so it's it's hard to get outside and shoot my bow but once i'm out there it's so therapeutic and so like you are focusing on every single thing that your body is doing in one moment and it just it takes your mind off of what's happening in the world and i think it's a really therapeutic thing to do so um i'm not going to be grouping with mine uh it's hard enough for me to commit to the one thing so so i'll get out there and do that one thing i want to get my husband on board to to do this as well probably my two kiddos so because they're they're shooting as well so that's that's my plan cool i think my problem is i haven't i haven't chosen anything yet i'm having difficulty um because i i thought physical activity but i i have to like pick a thing because if i then i yeah so i'm probably just gonna do running i i did some tracking in my car to figure out how far it'd be if i went this far so i'm just gonna commit to running about a mile every day just gonna do it saying it right now i'm gonna run a mile yeah that said on the record it's gonna be online no way back that's brave i guess for me it's just thinking out loud uh where i love the two minute rule is because it's well as kate says it's easy to do it's easy not to do uh and both are absolutely true but but that easiness part where you think about it and you think you know it's even if i'm like tired it's midnight just before bed there was two minutes it's not as difficult to get in as skipping the gym like if it's like you when you're thinking about the gym it's like a one hour commitment you have to go there and dress up and etc etc etc and then if you didn't do it you didn't do it here you can easily kind of clip it in so so when i look at my two minute rule practice i keep on thinking like whatever whatever my ambitions are kind of how to make sure that they're not out and beyond it's in where i will kind of defeat myself already before i start so so yeah personally i like that whole idea keeping it small and then only expanding it if it feels like it yeah one of those huge commitments is actually getting dressed to go do it yeah hey did you say you can stand one day without shoes on me yeah no i have i ran with jeans on a couple of times because i was like i can't commit myself to sweatpants and a car heart jacket well um i finished my list of professional questions but before we wrap everything up is there anything else anyone wants to bring up like a subject or any last thoughts i want to say thank you rocus this is really cool when i watched your your the whole two minute pressure thing i was like that is so rad i can't i couldn't wait to do it and i was expecting to do it by myself so i thank you ladies for joining me on this adventure it was really cool and i kind of want to do it for a year and i hope you guys want to join me on that i know that's like a long stretch that's a huge commitment to me but i i i really do i want to do this something every single day to better myself because it's fucking two minutes that's it yeah i was on the phone with my mom uh this morning and i had i was talking to her about this and how i've got a little zoom meeting today and and i was like yeah my uh kate kate wriggles she came up with it uh she got a she didn't come up with it rocus did and somebody else invented the two minute rule and i'm like telling her about all these things and and so i was like okay let me start over and so i told her where this whole thing originated from and i gave her the backstory and as as i introduced the kate and then i told her i was like which we've become pretty good friends throughout this and i was like wow i just heard that heard myself say that and i was like how cool that we're here making friends becoming closer even though we're so far apart it's right such a cool feeling and a cool thing so thank you rocus for recording yourself and taking that video that day and then kate for spreading it and getting us all here uh april for your videos they are so cool just doing your videos like you inspire me like you seriously do so it helps to watch that video even though i'm not doing it myself yet but uh thank you for being so vulnerable and stepping outside your comfort zone it makes a difference thanks absolutely i wanted to jump in and say thank you as well i mean as uh first of all first of all i really appreciate you you saying that and sharing that you know that that video had some impact uh it means a lot to me but but also i already mentioned it from the very beginning but i didn't think about uh involving more people into it i was just kind of sharing my own process but when i saw uh kate initiating the group and more people joining and that inspired me so and then the everyone's sharing that's that meant so much to me as well so i'm really grateful as well thank you thank you guys i love you all i love it um well good and any any other anything else on the top of your mind where you're like we need to say this or we we're good to hit the record button yeah i'm good cool this was great this was really really really really really great and i'm i just i can't say it enough and i think everybody should do it because they'd be just better for it and they'd make friends i love it oh yeah actually the the friends part uh i wanted to say something and just left my mind but uh that was like i mentioned in the beginning i was uh almost a bit nervous to have this recorded talk although usually i'm so used to doing the zoom thing but today i was and and i think part of it was because i got to know you all and that's that was the funny thing to realize well i guess kate you saw me fight in the cage but you know there's so many people so we i don't think we kind of really met and then that was to everyone like we we didn't know you came on the radio station i i have to say sorry you came on the radio station and and uh we hugged when you were on air with me so because at b98 i'm the dj radio oh cool so so we did meet yes we did nice but then yeah but then it's with everyone included it's it really started to feel like i'm getting to know you all and then before we had this zoom chat it felt like we know each other and don't know each other but that that connection was there and it's just so special it's so interesting that we live in these times where this can happen and we made it happen so yeah i definitely felt that too the talking back and forth and then all of a sudden like you get to meet someone it's so strange i've gals from mazula uh april you're from mazula right is that yeah so um there's gals that have come up from spg mazula to train with us and i see them in person and it's like uh i feel like i already know you but now you have to introduce yourself in person and it's a crazy this crazy feeling that like you have two separate connections with someone and it's really neat you know we've all kind of formed that here so yeah i definitely feel that too it's cool for me it's actually i found it a nice surprise and happy surprise to know that or not everyone is in as bg because that's kind of makes it easier because if you're already part of the pack then it's easier to extend that pack but to know that uh that we come from different backgrounds it's uh it makes it even more special so it's where you're going off on okay well good i think i'm good to make this official and just something i wanted to say before we end obviously the thank yous were said but i wanted to say thank you again it's so special to to do this and i'm looking forward to see where it's gonna go next uh and just one more thing in terms of as the reason i asked about giving feedback for how to tighten the the group and and continue doing this because it's still fresh in you and pressure testing is pressure testing until you try it out you don't know what works and what doesn't work but then uh in regards to continuing this process if you'll ever have some feedback ideas uh you'll notice something like oh this worked or or maybe we should do this maybe this could be improved i already have ideas from our conversation today like i'll think a lot about that like what could change for the better but if you ever come up with something like that you please let me know and yeah i hope we'll continue to connect and do this and hopefully even more guys will jump in the the tight back or or the open group so yeah


So, I didn't prepare slides. I'm just going to kind of talk at you for a little bit as I scroll through the zine. So, I'll try to keep my eyes on the chat. And if you have questions, feel free to put them there or in the Q&A and I'll answer at the end. So, the fedora zine was an idea I came up with a bit over a year ago. I was thinking about what I like to do, which is to make artwork. And, and I knew other artists in fedora and I said, what's a really great way to show off some of the personality of the fedora community. Something that is just for fun. And that's where the idea for the zine came from. So, the panda looks, we have a comment in the chat that the panda looks hardcore. So, as I was coming up with this idea, I was also stepping into the F cake role. So that stands for fedora community action and impact coordinator. So, it's kind of like, you know, gearing up for this new job, kind of trying to adjust the way my brain thought to really be the best kind of support I could be for the community. So, from my own personal experience in my community, I realized there's a couple things that we could really use more of, right. And one of those things is recognition, right. And this, I think, recognizes fedora contributors in a totally different way than we ever have. This is recognizing them for their artistic prowess, which is something cool, something we haven't done before, and something that shows off our personality in a totally different way. So, I had this idea, I was like, I'm going to run with it. And I proposed an internship for the last round of outreach. So, I went through and I mentored the application period. We had a ton of people who came through and we ended up with a very talented artist and designer, Ella Daniels. I actually invited Ella to be here with us today, but she has a lot going on in her life right now, COVID and everything else. So, she won't be with us, but she did an amazing job with us. Ella worked for 12 weeks on a variety of things, not just the designs. So, the designs you do see in here are by all different people. So, if I go back, these ones, Ella designed the typography, but she took a photograph that somebody submitted, so not her own, and remixed it with this art. And this one is by Masha Linova, if you know Masha. And then we also decided to mix in infographics. So, the infographics talk about everything from getting involved with the Fedora project to different things that the Mindshare folks have done. I'll go into that a little bit later, but one of the things we want to do with this scene is print it and hand it out at events. So, kind of gone are the days where we hand out CDs with installations on them. So, we're kind of like at a loss like what do we want to hand out besides pens and badges and stuff like that. So, this is another idea of something we want to get into people's hands. And the idea of, you know, having this something like this in here. So, if someone who knows nothing about Fedora sees this, they might think that's a cool place for me. We also had photographs as entries. I think this is by Sian Choudhury. We also take poetry.  So, we're not just open for visual things, also writing. We mixed in some graphics that show off our foundations. So, here's an example of just a page to show off what a team does in Fedora that isn't necessarily a coding team. So, this focuses on what the DNI team has done basically 2019 and 2020. We have some just nostalgic throwback pictures to flocks, which we had to throw in there. Here is a shot of some of the accomplishments of Fedora magazine. So, we tried to take like slogans and kind of some of the foundational cultural things that we have in Fedora and translate them into art. So, this is one of the spreads. You can imagine them together. We come from different countries. We speak different languages. We are from different cultures, but Fedora unites us with open source. That was the script we used in the Budapest video. So, we're just trying to call back to some of the experiences we've had. This is one of my favorite pictures and I think Alberto enjoys it so much that it's his profile picture somewhere. Really, really cute. Here's one about the translation team and what they have been accomplishing. This is a story from Kyle, who's on the design team, Kyle Convay. It's his story of his first interaction with Ms. Mill and the Fedora design team. Here is an info page on the design team and what they've been up to. Wallpapers, badges, sticker sheets. This time, I think we can put in a whole thing about the logo. Maybe that'll be in the Xen addition too. So, there is a plan to print this, a file, and I've honestly been trying to print it through a website, but it was not taking the file. So, I need to take some time to actually call printer and work the whole thing out. And that is me following through, yes, me following through to the end of this. But you know how things go like release parties and other things often take priority, but it is going to happen. This is actually a drawing of my own. And it is paired with this poem by Jen Madriaga, if you know Jen. I reached out to a lot of people directly asking them to contribute their art to this, but I would love to spread and for people to see it and want to be a part of it. So, in an effort to help that along. There is a wiki page where you can learn about the zine so Ella developed this wiki page for us during her internship. And then there's kind of just a record of the submissions there. But beyond that, we also have a majority though. So this is where kind of discussions and page design and artwork and like reworking of different things would happen in that place. So, I have to say I'm so impressed with the four communities artistic talent, like, I call that for people to, you know, I said I mentioned I directly message people but they came out with so much great stuff. Actually, hold on. I'm going the wrong way, maybe. Well, here we go. We have poetry and other languages as well. So it does not have to be an English submission. Here's some info about the fedora comm ops team. Also the joining team. I think this poster is really rad. And then I think this is what this is the second to last page, how to contribute to the fedora zine. So, just gives you a quick little outline of what to do there. And here are the credits for the volume one of the fedora zine. We had over 25 or 20 people contribute to it. And I can't wait to get a physical copy to people. I think that should be a great goal for us if we can, if we can get a zine and everyone's mess swag bags, I will be just thrilled with that. So yeah, that is pretty much an overview of how it came to be. And yes, and who worked on it and kind of our ideation behind it and how we came up with the different graphics that we added into it. So I figure I can just be a chicken in every pot and a zine in every swag bag. Yes, I would love to see the zine out there. So let's take a look at the Q&A. Are there plans to do another or more? Yes. So I haven't, I am mentoring an internship coming up and it's create designs and assets for the community outreach revamp. So this session of outreach, I'm booked, but I'm thinking about making it maybe a yearly winter internship. I might always do like the zine in the winter time for outreach and have all like kind of secure that it will happen and have somebody to really focus on it and make it great. So yes, I have plans to do it in the future. When can you get a subscription? I don't think we'll ever make them often enough that there will be a subscription. It would be cool if we did. But you will have a chance to get it on paper in the future. Also, the dates have been announced for Nest and the call for paper is open. Participation papers are on site. So can't wait to hear your ideas and whatever you guys want to do. In fact, I might do a zine session there, maybe a little bit more organized and then people can get really pumped on getting their copy of the zine. Any more questions? Anyone who's an artist just burning to make a submission, you should do it. Or if you're not even, if you're like maybe a little hesitant or shy, I still encourage you to do it. You will get a positive response. Oh, there's the very last page. The footer was here. All right, folks. If there are no more questions. I think we are going to do a wrap up session. In a few minutes. And I will see everyone over there. Thanks for coming to my talk.


This is a Trader Joe's pizza dough with red onion, tomato, and basil with a garlic butter sauce finished with an aioli drizzle on top. We're also going to make a gluten-free version with TJ's cauliflower crust. The aioli sauce really takes it over the top. Did you know that October is National Pizza Month? Well, that's what we're doing today. We're making pizza just for that occasion. All right, so I'm going to be making two types of pizzas here. Both are going to be semi-homemade meaning we're going to buy our crust from Trader Joe's because they have a really nice, nice fresh dough here like you see here. This is just incredibly inexpensive. It's $1.49 for a pound of dough. I couldn't believe how cheap it was, and it just cooks up great. It's got a lot of good flavor. I think you'll like it. And we're also going to be using Trader Joe's cauliflower pizza crust. So I'm going to show you how to make each crust. We're going to be using the same ingredients for both, but you can make it either way you want depending on your preference, right? I'm going to show you the tips on, especially with cauliflower pizza crust.  So I'm going to show you some tips on how to, you know, crisp it up a little bit better and make it a better pizza. So I'm Rockin' Robin, and I'm going to show you how to do it right after my chef joke. All right, so here's chef joke number one. Number two will be a little later. How do you fix a broken pizza with tomato paste? So the first thing we're going to do is mix together our olive oil and butter garlic sauce. So what I'm doing here is I'm mixing up some fresh garlic. So cut off the ends and then smash the garlic and the peel should come right off. Slice up your garlic and then chop it until it's very fine. Next, I'm going to melt a couple of tablespoons of butter in a little dish. Then I'm going to add a couple of teaspoons of that minced garlic to the melted butter. And then I'm going to add an equal amount of olive oil as I did the butter. Give that a good stir and then set it aside. Now we're going to make our aioli sauce, and I'm going to use some avocado mayo here by Primal Kitchen. We'll place that in a bowl, and don't forget you can get the written recipe below the video in the description area. And to that we're going to add some Dijon mustard. I'm not being real precise here, but about a tablespoon. That fresh garlic we minced up is also going in this, along with a pinch of salt, fresh lemon juice, and a few cracks of pepper. Give it a good whisk to combine and we'll pour it into a squeeze bottle because I like how it comes out nice and easy. Now we're going to work on Trader Joe's pizza dough. Now remember this one is not gluten-free. Now you're going to want to preheat your oven to 475 degrees. That's according to the package. And because the dough is going to be a bit sticky, you're going to want to take some regular flour and place it, you know, just summed down on the board and spread it out so that you can help shape the dough without it sticking. You can form the dough in any shape that you want, but since my pan is a rectangle, I'm going to go ahead and make mine more like a rectangular shape. So just keep working the dough until you get it thin enough.  So here's how thin I got my dough. Now before we place the dough in the pan, we're going to want to grease the pan just a little bit with some olive oil here. So I'm going to pour some in and then just spread it out with my hand or you can use a brush, whatever you want. And this is going to help keep that pizza from sticking to the pan. So carefully place your dough into the pan and then you're going to have to spread it out again because it's going to shrink up a little bit as you transferred it over. Now we're going to talk about our toppings. Now of course you can put any toppings you like on this pizza, but I would love for you to try what I've got here today and then let me know what you think and you can always change it up. So I've got some shredded mozzarella and some burrata here, which is a fresh mozzarella cheese filled with mozzarella cream. It is so good. I'm going to be slicing up some red onion and I'm going to do it very thin because, well, who likes really thick chunks of onion on their pizza? So go really thin with this. I think you'll enjoy it better. Just get it nice and fine and then cut it a couple of times so the pieces aren't too big. And now I'm going to do the same thing with a big juicy ripe tomato. So now we're ready to start building our pizza. So we're going to want to take that butter olive oil garlic sauce and give it a stir. Make sure it's well mixed. And then we're going to take a pastry brush and brush it lightly over the dough and make sure you get all the way to the edges because we want that garlic flavor everywhere. Now we can start laying on the goods. So we'll start with our mozzarella cheese. Now I like to go with a fairly thin layer here. We don't need to pile it on super thick. Next I'm sprinkling on some grated parmesan cheese. Here's a layer of that red onion and that juicy tomato. We have some fresh basil going on here but we're not putting that on until it comes out of the oven. I'm putting a little more mozzarella on top, as you can see. And now I'm taking that burrata and I'm pulling it apart and placing it in little dollops all over the pizza. Then we'll finish it off with one last sprinkle of parmesan cheese and then in the oven it goes. The package on the pizza dough says it should take about 12 minutes to cook but I ended up cooking mine about 14 minutes so just play it by ear. This is what you want to see a nice golden brown crust. The cheese is browned a bit and it's bubbling all over the place. Now is the time we're going to add that fresh basil because if you add it too soon it tends to turn black and oxidize.  It gives it such a nice fresh flavor. It's great. This pizza turned out so delicious that my son ate the whole thing. No problem. If you think you might make this recipe let me know by hitting the like button. And don't forget to finish this off with that drizzle of the aioli sauce. You're going to love this. It is so good. Alright it must be time for chef joke number two. What did the pizza say to the delivery guy? You don't pepper on me and as an added bonus what did the delivery guy say in response? Hey now don't get saucy. Now it's time for our cauliflower crust pizza. Now sometimes cauliflower pizza crusts are a little bit soggy, right? So what we want to do here today is I'm going to show you how to crisp it up just a little bit. So we're going to grease up the pan like we did the other pizza by adding just a light coat of olive oil. We're going to place the crust right down on the pan and then we're going to coat the crust lightly with the olive oil and butter garlic sauce. And then this is going to help the crust get a little bit crispy, right? That's what we want and it's to hold together. So this is going to go into the oven at 425 degrees Fahrenheit for about five minutes. Keep an eye on it. When it's done we're going to top it just the same as the other pizza. Start off with a little mozzarella. Sprinkle on some parmesan cheese. Layer on those red onions and those juicy tomatoes. Another little sprinkle of mozzarella cheese and some dollops of burrata. I finished it off with a little more parmesan cheese and then I popped it back in the oven. After eight minutes this is how it looked when it came out. Time for basil. Slide the pizza over onto your cutting board and cut it up. This is a perfect pizza for one. And let me know down in the comments which pizza you're going to make. And don't forget that drizzle of the aioli sauce. If you love pizza you might want to try my chocolate chip cookie pizza. It's soft chewy and delicious. Click the link on the screen and it'll take you right to the recipe. I hope you enjoyed today's video. If you did you can let me know by either pushing the like button, smashing it or whatever you want to do. That always lets me know. And leave me a comment. I'd love to hear from you, all right? We'll see you back here next week for another Rockin' Recipe.