Good evening. Y'all put a thumbs up in the chat if you can hear me. I see y'all backstage. Appreciate y'all coming up. Shout out to the mods. RM, I see you. Benji, what's up, brother? Shout out to the members. Kate Moore, I see you. So, as you can see, I am Cam off today for several reasons. First and foremost, my lighting in here is terrible. I'm still waiting on a key light from my desktop. Some of you may know I moved over the weekend, so I'm in a different space now and the lighting situation is a little different, so bear with me. Yeah, so you guys know what happened and I must say I'm still confused. I'm still kind of downloading what's going on. Shout out to Benji. He was actually the first person who told me. He texted me and was like, yo, did you hear the rumor? At this time, it was still the rumor. It was like yesterday afternoon.  It must be some Twitter.  I was like, nah.  Some of you guys might have, you know, caught one of his pop-ups on the channel. Good friend of mine.  So he started doing some digging. He was like, I'm going to see what I can find. And he also lives in Atlanta. He said, I'm going to see what I can find and I'm going to hit you back. So like an hour or so goes by, he hits me back and he's like, yo, it's likely to be true. There's a police report, this, this and that. But you know, I'm still waiting on some information and then we'll confirm it. So he hit me back and was like, yeah, it's true. And at the time my first feeling was like, nah, this is, this doesn't make, doesn't make any sense. And then my immediate second thought was, okay, what is this going to mean? What is the fallout of this occurrence? Like what, what are the men going to say? What are the women going to say? Like what does this mean? Like many of us were just kind of like lost right now. So I was torn as to whether or not I was even going to stream. You know, I do Friday live streams where we recap, you know, Tuesday and Thursday's episodes and we might talk about some current events and things. But like my first inclination was, okay, let's take a moment to just breathe. And be like, you know, download what's going on. And you know, I talked to some people and they told me, okay, that makes sense. However, you've now got 29,000 people who might need some words, might need an opportunity to speak to be heard, you know, which is what we need to talk us all about, to vent, to might need the catharsis. So that's why I'm here.  I mean, I'm Mike, Cam off and everything. So that's what we're going to do tonight. The focus is on y'all. I'm going to just be a voice in the background. I'm going to bring people up on the screen and we're just going to talk about what this means, what Kevin Samuel's meant to the world at large, the nation, our community, men, women, black people, black love, black marriage. Like what, what does this all mean? And how do we carry the baton, carry the torch?  And ironically, the reason you guys found this channel in the first place is our series entitled Kevin Samuel started this conversation. So there's a great sense of duty, which terrifies me. It excites me and it makes me sad all at the same time. One of my goals was to get just successful enough where when I reached out to Kevin to do a collaboration for Black Men Talk, you know, he would be enthusiastic to be a part of that. Well, now that's not going to be a dream realized. However, you know, if we continue to push this particular conversation forward, I think wherever he is, he is going to be happy. Some of you guys may know, some of you guys might not know, but he's popped up on a few of our videos.  The fact that, you know, he tuned in, he was a... I'm not going to go as far as saying he was a fan, but he might have been, and that's heavy to me.  We're going to talk about it.  When you became privy to the man, the myth, the legend that is Kevin Samuels and what his work, his legacy, his ministry has meant to you, has meant to the community, and then, like, kind of, where do we go from here? What do you need from other content creators like myself? What can we do? What can we as the collective, just Black men, and Black women do to, like, pay homage to his work? So, yeah, I think this particular picture really speaks to, I think, what he represented.  And I think there's a power in that.   And, you know, my ministry here is to make that constructive and to help us gain the tools on how to approach those conversations in our everyday lives. So, like I said, Kevin Sanders started this conversation and we're going to finish it. We're going to keep it going. Tuesday, episode 50 drop. It was another episode with Courtney Michelle. Shout out to her. She might be in the chat. Thursday, episode 51 dropped that featured Security Ball. Shout out to her. She also might be in the chat, but I'm going to bring the brothers up, man, and we're going to talk this through. So, Lush, up top, Don. Rare Breeze, she. What's up, brother? What's up with it? What's going on? Drew, and last but not least, Ray, Raymond. What's going on, brothers? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? We're processing. That's how we're doing. We're processing. I'm shocked. I'm still shocked. Absolutely. Absolutely. What I'm going to do is I'm going to mute the mics of whoever is not speaking just so we can keep the audio clean. And I'll kind of just orchestrate who speaks when. And we'll go from there. That's cool. Yeah, that's great. Cool, cool, cool. California Blue, shout out to you, man, for the super chat. I appreciate it. All right. We're going to start with you, Rare. Rare Breeze, talk to me, brother. What is going through your mind? What is going through your... How are you processing this, man? Man, I've been trying to tune into other cats and the man of spirit that I listen to who, you know, my daily go-tos, like a Kevin, and really kind of getting that perspective and really just trying to figure out, like, why Kevin was so influential in this space and how we can continue to carry that message. And, you know, Kevin hit a special place for all of us because I was introduced to the man of spirit earlier, but, you know, one of the unique things that Kevin did that nobody else did was actually bring women on the show and talk to women. And he didn't always use just logic and reason. He kind of had a conversation with them. You know, he led them to a certain place in the conversation that really exposed the thought process that goes on in a lot of women today. But he really brought it into a conversation level. And, you know, there's so many different thoughts that I have about it. It's a lot of different ways you can really magnify the significance that Kevin had in the industry in this life that we live in. And one of the things that really stuck out to me, you know, is that he called himself the Godfather. And I think that, like, that was an honorable title for him because he really was a Godfather and a perspective of, like, all of the guys in the man of spirit, you know, we all got our own, like, sounding boards when we're talking to everybody. But the one of the things that Kevin did was actually, like, conducted himself in a suit. You know, he conducted himself in an appearance that most of the other guys in the man of spirit, you know, that we chill, we relax, we're easy going. Sometimes some guys don't even use avatars, you know, or actually don't even use live streams. They just use avatars. And it makes them very easy to be dismissed.  And so, you know, with Kevin putting on the suit, with Kevin bringing women on to the light, you know, it really hit us in a different type of way. And I think one of the things that I heard Coach Greg Adams talk about was the fact that, like, men, especially black men, never seen a man check a woman. You know? And it's just, like, I think that was fantasizing to a lot of men because, you know, we all get into our situations with women. And, you know, when we try to use logic or reason or pin them down in an argument or a discussion, it kind of don't go the way we envisioned, you feel me? And I think seeing how Kevin did it and seeing how he was able to utilize his tools to think through and walk through those steps, I mean, gave a lot of men the confidence to really stand up to women and the confidence to really not tolerate, the crazy thoughts and the patterns and, you know, just the illogical points that, you know, they operate in their lives with. And I think, you know, at the end of the day, man, Kevin was really the godfather of that. You know, that was a special place that nobody else, I don't know if anybody else would ever be able to fill them shoes. But one of the things that we got to do is to not be disregarded. You know, we all got our own style preferences. We all got our own looks. And we just need to continue to swarm the space with our unique characteristics and everybody will gravitate to who they feel, you know, represent them. You know, I'll put on a suit and tie. And that's probably maybe part of the reason why I like Kevin.  You know, so they probably navigate to somebody else.  And, you know, we just got to continue to have the conversation and continue to have diversity in the conversation. We are not going to agree on the same exact points. You know, we have our differences.  But I think there's something that connect us as men where, you know, there's a line in which we all are connected. And as long as we continue to fill the space and, you know, put our best foot forward, man. I think, you know, we're going to, you know, we're going to finish this, we're going to finish this strong, man. Kevin did something amazing, you know, and one of the last crazy things that I remember or I thought about is like, Kevin started at the beginning of the pandemic. And it's crazy how now when we ending out the pandemic, Kevin not here no more. You know what I'm saying? It was almost like he was a, you know, that kind of makes him not even a real, like real, like an alien came at a time where the world was just confused and he popped out, popped up and literally changed the game forever. And then now we, now we back out with no mass and now he's not here no more. You know what I'm saying? That's kind of crazy to me to just thinking about that. You know? So it definitely is, man. It definitely is. Yeah, man. So I want to throw the question to Lutch. Like what was your introduction to Kevin, man? So, you know, my introduction right at the beginning of the pandemic, I was ready to become step daddy to a nine year old girl with a psycho mother and you know, more red flags and CCP, all of that. And I stumbled upon his content and you know, I didn't even realize how important Kevin was to me until this morning I tried to make a video about him on my channel. I didn't read your book by guest and I didn't know what to say. And so I figured let me sit on this a little bit and then I realized that in order to say what exactly Kevin has done for me that I'm going to have to talk about how my dad even though he was an amazing father he was there for me. He provided all that stuff. The kind of messages that Kevin sent to me I didn't get that from him and that caused so much just heartbreak and just confusion and all of that from not knowing any better. I was the typical plugged in beta guy and I didn't realize how much that affected me. And so when I found his content and I started realizing that like okay I don't have to settle at 30 years old for this, that, or the other I'm just hitting my stride it's time for me to focus on me all that kind of stuff and it changed my perspective not just on women but on life. And again I just it was sad you know it was at first it was just like oh man what am I going to watch in the mornings before I go to work and then it kind of hit me in a second wave where it was like this man really has done so much and shout out to you I actually have not your last video with Security Boss but the video before that when it was waiting to be premiered I had it in my playlist I was going to do a reaction to it because of how well you distill the message and a lot of people need fortunately needed needed to hear Kevin's message in the way that Kevin said it but I found myself in conversations with women that I knew women from my life where I would try to not you know school them or anything but just try to send the message and say why it's important to me not because I'm trying to hate on y'all but because I'm trying to figure it out for myself and they took it so personally and so when I found this channel I was like wow dude you're really taking it to a different level not better or worse but just different and so I mean you know we definitely have to continue and there's people like you who are out here spreading these messages but you know as your series is titled the conversation wouldn't be there without Kevin and you know Doctor Evil Genius was on a TLA stream earlier talking about how in Kevin's last stream you know talking about older women and he kept repeating the phrase we only have so many sunsets left and it's almost prophetic when not prophetic prophetic that he would use such a term on his last stream and like I said I'm still processing I felt like without putting out my own video I've seen you doing a stream I was like alright let me get something out and tribute to the men but yeah it's just it's tough to deal with how we're going to continue as a community I'm not black but I don't and I don't claim to be part of you know the black community but I've met so many people in this space because of people like Kevin because of people like TLA and these are my people these are my friends these are the people who are going through the same types of life experiences and we all had Kevin to use us like a North Star and now that North Star has burnt out and thankfully thankfully he made enough of an impact where like I was at the point of watching his videos every morning because not you know not just because they were good but because they were informative and entertaining but that message is already within me and I want to do whatever I can maybe not in the specific dating world with not maybe not specifically with the black community but taking the messages that I've taken from him and doing the exact same thing with my channel and I just hope I can be half the man he was no that's fantastic man and that's really what it's about I think we got to witness him air men's grievances and one of the things that I really think he was trying to say that he might not have said outright is that men are more than their wallets absolutely and if we continue to distill the importance of a man or masculine energy to simply his financial portfolio whatever the case may be how would you like if we did that for women and there have been streams where he talks about even if you're not the best looking woman are you willing to be competitive are you willing to hone the other soft skills that are going to help you be successful because women like to jump to I see average women with high value men all the time but those women aren't average because they might be average looking but they're not average so it's definitely powerful I feel a great sense of like I said earlier great sense of responsibility but with the community behind me man the community of you guys I'm optimistic about where we can go I really appreciate that with all that we're dealing with that you are putting on this stream I'm sure it's hard for you we're all having a hard time but that sense of responsibility tying yourself so closely and yeah it's much appreciated and I just hope that people like you, people like myself we're probably never going to make the type of impact that Kevin did but together we can carve out our own little way of sending these messages and making it so that men are seen in a way that they're supposed to be seen especially as I'm 5'4 especially as a short guy who got money when I got money like these ladies are asking for there was so much insecurity there was so much just bullshit that I had to deal with from that and I internalized it and once I realized that okay a lot of that is external and I can't change my height but there's a lot of other things that I can change that message I think encapsulates everything that Kevin and not just Kevin but specifically Kevin has shown me that I'm just as much of a man as anybody else just because I got to look up at a dude who's 5'8 you know yeah definitely but yeah stick around man I want to get Drew Drew you've been patient man what are your thoughts on all this? well first of all thank you for having me on your platform man you popped up in my algorithm because I was following Mr. Samuels and I forgot which video I saw but I said man I like this subscribe right away I got two channels I subscribe right away I found Kevin by accident he kept popping up on my algorithm you know I'm like I'll get to it I'll get to it and then a friend of mine sent me the link to Average at Best and I said oh my god and it wasn't so I want the insecure males and the oversensitive females to understand this isn't about woman bashing because for too long I can't pinpoint the year but I'm a man of a certain age I'm 46 years old and I don't remember exactly when but man we have been reduced to having these conversations in barbershops on the basketball court where there's no women around because in the event that a woman does show up we gotta zip our lip and change the conversation because they were intervening I mean in my opinion and this might sound cliche Kevin Simms was a breath of fresh air he's a breath of fresh air and everything he said I've been around for a while everything he said a majority of it I knew already and we all know as men but a lot of us can't articulate it as well as others but we live it every day and it was a breath of fresh air to see a grown man with a suit on discussing these topics we don't realize he straightened it out with the men first because when I subscribed to him I said okay I like that it was funny it was entertaining but let me see what he's about and I went this channel and I went all the way all the way all the way down to like when he first started doing his thing and he was talking to men he was talking to men we have to we're the leaders right how could we lead if we ain't got we don't have our pockets together we can't lead a family we can't have a family if we don't have a good income source if we don't have a plan or where we're gonna be in the next two to five years these are the things he focused on and when he was getting on the men like that none of these women were around none of these women were around then when average our best at best happened these women started to challenge him on that and then the ball got rolling and then everyone's antennas went up and then he became misogynistic how do you get that you didn't even know where he come from when he came from you see it's sort of like it's sort of like when you see a black man arguing in the street with someone that's another ethnicity right or you walk upon him and he's the black man's kicking the person's ass the camera's up and all you see is the ass whooping right you don't know what started it you don't know what started it but we get blamed you don't know that boom we got hit in the face first he yelled at us he called us the N word first you didn't see all of that you just see us kicking their ass but here's what I've learned you got to pay me to debate with me alright I don't argue with fools alright not to plug myself but I have a boxing channel I don't argue with fools you don't know what I know and if I don't know something I will ask a question I don't know everything alright um you can't tell who's the fool when you see people arguing in the street so I don't argue with fools that's how I live alright Kevin Samuels he opened up his platform alright everybody could get the smoke men and women got the smoke and after average at best what I saw happening was women taking their ass okay I'm gonna challenge this dude and these are the same type of women that had us men just discussing our issues amongst ourselves in barber shops because these women today they didn't want to listen to us but you know who they're listening to now watch this y'all they're listening to Beyonce talking about single ladies you know Beyonce's married to a billionaire they're listening to Cardi B told him I get a sugar daddy but ain't Cardi B married and she likes to drug brothers and get them drunk and rob them salute to the Bronx she's from my borough so these this is the anthem that these women are marching to but when we say yo look I want a woman that has no children a woman that could be submissive a woman that likes to go to the gym with me and a woman that's and a woman that's humble that's not talking like a sailor cursing all over the place all of a sudden we hate our mom we might be gay all kinds of stuff they say to us we gotta put up with you having multiple kids by pookies and ray-rays and you want us to come in and break bread with you and play step daddy these are the things that I've been saying for decades so when I hear Kevin Samus say it I said man you know I like this and I like his appearance and then through Kevin Samus you know how YouTube is algorithms I found you I found the poor man's podcast I found O'Shea Duke TLA I found all of you brothers and I said yes this has become a safe space for us and now what Kevin Samus did was he set the tone and now we're blossoming and I'm I'm glad to be a part of it so I salute all of you brothers I salute all of your work I salute it and I appreciate it and the death is untimely but there are no mistakes he's left his mark because now I'm already seeing it not only are these people being rude online to celebrate a man's death a lot of you people of the same color celebrating death there's something wrong with you guys there's something wrong with you but what's happening now this is not a conversation this is a topic because now what I'm seeing is oh you on your Kevin Samus now he's become a word you're on your Kevin Samus well you know what I'm gonna own it I don't know about y'all but I'm gonna own it yeah I'm on my Kevin Samus cause you know what the whole time y'all try to get smoke with him you never prove them wrong at all at all time reveals all truth in the last but the long way to the truth he's never been proven wrong even from beyond the grave he's not wrong and he did his job and it's up to us as men not pookies and ray rays but as men to carry that message absolutely absolutely brother and I appreciate that and to your point to one of your first points that stood out to me I think we can't state the importance of him distilling a lot of these concepts you know the concept of a high value man the CIA the FBI fit them in friendly it helped not just men articulate certain goals certain benchmarks worth striving for but it also helped women articulate certain goals and certain benchmarks worth striving for and I think it comes from his sales background as well and you know we have this concept called kiss keep it short and sweet to keep it simple stupid which is also an acronym when he talks about confident intelligent assertive men for boys for some men even who didn't grow up with fathers who only grew up in feminine energy it is important for somebody for a coach for a mentor for an image consultant to tell them okay these are the benchmarks worth striving for you need to work on something to get to the point of making at least ten thousand dollars a month whether you hit it or not but you need to be going in that direction you need to improve your style and your media presence and your social presence and the way that you walk and the way that you talk the way that you smell and that is vital particularly in our community so shout out to you brother like somebody in the chat said you were absolutely preaching let me go to you Mr. T 094 thank you for being patient man where are you mentally man well I mean honestly I'm sure it came out nowhere for everyone you know it is always tough to see a guy in his 50s just something just like that it's knocked out but for me Kevin Samuels he sort of had a multi-dimension meaning for me it was obviously the dimensions of relationship and you know describing the woman that we see out in the dating world but for me it makes sense of a lot of things that I went through growing up with the woman in my life in my family and you know like you said growing around that not having a guy to help make sense of certain things you know if it's all you know after a while you start asking yourself oh is there something wrong with me is there an issue with me when you have all this basically your surroundings making it seem like there's something wrong with you and for me him just like shining a light on that and making sense of that and actually seeing like you know just seeing the woman on his show because I saw people I knew growing up basically it was just like you know looking in mirror in that aspect just seeing woman exactly what I experienced growing up and on a different aspect for me he his emphasis on the black family and rebuilding it and calling out the elements that have been destroying it I think I mean you don't have to agree with everything he says but that as a black person that doesn't matter if you agree with anything he says that intent alone should you know warrant admiration because there's a mentality in our community that like they're afraid to acknowledge that there are their problems like you try to bring up their you know their problems and they're just they don't want to acknowledge it and I think that was an important aspect of what he did and you know what he did for our community and you know even beyond you know black people just because you always see people of other races you know so it's you know I'm gonna keep it short but yeah I mean those two aspects just making sense of things I went through with my family and also making sense of you know what I see in the dating world and reassuring the things that I know I'm doing is I'm going on the right path and making myself valuable to the people around me absolutely absolutely let me ask you this do you think you believe that you personally have found community in this space whether it's community through Kevin Samuel's content or content similar to it yeah definitely it's um you know for so long I like I'd say like I'm 27 so probably all the way up until like maybe my mid-20s I felt like I was just alone just you know I would put out my opinions you know say certain things and I just like I would just get like this backlash you know like I just like you know for a while I'm like is it something there's a problem me am I just like this you know weird or something just saying you know saying these things that but as soon as I um you know kind of this community and you know seeing people you know similar experiences going with the same thing and you know telling me you know I'm not you there oh can you hear me yeah I can hear you yeah go ahead and finish your thought oh did I cut off or something yeah I cut off I lost my train of thought but like yeah I definitely think it's um you know it was finding this community in my I say like my mid-20s you know very important for me you know just knowing there's other people going through what I go through you know similar experiences and just making sense of it you know that is I'm not just like you know there's not something wrong I mean there is you know there is something wrong you know fundamentally wrong with you know what we've been doing with absolutely absolutely so before I bring up the next set of four um I'm gonna start with you she man just uh you know plug whatever you got going on whatever you're working on uh channel whatever the case may be and then we'll go to Drew uh you muted she um man um you know to answer your question you got me on off mute right okay cool well yes answer your question bro um you know I was getting so ingrained into this space that I felt like I felt like a lot of people um where they just felt like they needed to contribute to the space continue the continued growth of the space and whatever kind of way you know maybe it's not for all of us to to start a youtube channel and to uh you know get on the mic and talk I mean there's a lot of different dynamic ways we can approach it and um you know when I came across your channel I think you had really something special that uh I really like the conversation aspect you know um you know reminisce reminisce reminds me of Kevin in the dialogue that he would have but you do it in a different type of manner and um you know seeing you start there from the ground roots and knowing uh you know my my skill set of marketing and sales and technology and analytics you know I felt the need to reach out to you and I said let's connect bro and you know so far we've been having some conversations I've been shooting you some different ideas and I plan to continue to work with you behind the scenes man and continue to build this channel and help other brothers in this space with our skill set and I think that that's the biggest thing is like we don't have to all be on the camera you know we can what skills do you have what skills do you have to possess and how can you bring that element to the manuscript you know if you know how to to people's YouTube channel like help a brother in the manuscript and give them that knowledge and share that knowledge and spread that news you don't have to be the dude you know talking all the time and so you know I have my you know uh future and plans to maybe start a channel but for right now I'm just getting my I'm just getting myself involved bro and I think that that's you know I think that every everybody you know we can contribute some to some to this space especially for Kevin and show some dedication to resources that we that we have and put it to this space man I think that that's a honorable move that everybody you know in some sense should make to whatever capacity that they can make it in I'm on Instagram I don't have too much I'm up behind the scenes dude I got a lot of stuff going on but if you want to check me on our Instagram is rare breaching dots between each one of those and yeah man let's just keep going man we got a long road ahead bro and at this point we got all the tools that we need to keep this thing to keep this boat sailing bro forever you know absolutely like you know some I seen somebody said this was a Jesus effect and you know just Jesus told a lot of us or said in scripture you know you guys are going to go on and do greater things than I and so you know that's I'll just leave it at that now definitely man and you know why why you're up man I just want to give you a few hours I don't I don't think you realize and and I hope one day I can actually you know show you how much it meant that you know a complete stranger man you reached out to me was like yo how can I add value to what you're doing you know because a lot of people don't realize this but I'm a one man show like the the production the editing the sound everything that you see is one dude so for a community to really you know rally around you know for somebody like she to reach out and say listen bro like whatever you need I got you this is how you know you can grow this that meant a lot so shout out to you bro like I said I just want to give you your flowers you know we we got work to do and whenever you do decide to get that channel going you know I'm in your corner man so shout out to you can yes sir yes sir right now I want to help you bro this we need to talk thing I think is amazing it's definitely a diversity in this space that you in and man we got we got some bro and you know I know you say you feel nervous bro but man you going to wear this on your shoulders bro and you going to continue to strive through man and push through like a man dog so salute to you salute to you our brothers on this channel who taking this live stream and feeling the need to speak up and you know peace out peace out brother we'll talk soon man push out push out alright alright luch man talk to us man what are you working on what would you like to promote so really quickly I am the host of the I didn't read your book podcast I talked to authors about their books with which I have not read just to get behind the scenes talk to and spread some info that's kind of my foot in the door I'm now starting to branch out and talk about more topical issues I would love I already got a couple names here from the people backstage I would love to build a community where we could have more conversations hopefully on lighter topics but equally as important I do I drive be live where I do long form panels I do reactions and stuff so definitely please go check out my channel like I said first thing tomorrow morning is reacting to that the video before security boss that you put out that's definitely going to be part of a longer tribute to Kevin but I'm going to clip that out as well real quick I know that she doesn't hear anymore but just thinking about what he said about the flash in the pan that Kevin was that is so poignant and again that goes back to the idea that I don't think that any one of us is going to be able to recreate that but if we build a community based off those those tenets and those values then I really think so many of us can go far a rising tide lifts all boats and I am more than happy to organize things and so please follow me at I drive be Lutch I D R Y B U T C H on Instagram or Twitter go check my channel and I promise you I'm not I am seamlessly plugging but I do want to genuinely build this and and and take this farther than any one man can do as great as Kevin was he was just one man and he needs now more than ever he needs us to come together and really build that community and like I said I got three names here I'm going to follow guys as soon as I dip out of here and hopefully you'll see us doing more streams and doing more content and I encourage you to if you know you're not comfortable in front of the camera if you're not comfortable doing that hop in the comments of you know when you see some of these people live when you see some of these people posting stuff you know add to the engagement add to the conversation I know personally I'm not great at just you know talking I'm more of a professionalist so if you're in my comments it's definitely going to make my content better and my message is your message and that's how we grow that's how we bring Kevin's legacy into something that lasts instead of just the flash in the pan that the man was let's take that legacy and make it into something you know long lasting and something that really helps men of all races all classes all that all that stuff and again I appreciate you for having your channel the Kevin started this conversation is a brilliant brilliant idea and the approach you have is just fantastic there's just real quick there's one girl who I go back and forth about these types of issues and I've been waiting to show her some of your videos I don't talk to her that often but I think you are right in there to be able to send Kevin's message without the harshness and again some people need that harshness but not everybody does keep doing what you're doing and everybody else let's make something out of this let's turn this negative into something bigger so thank you so much for having me on absolutely man I appreciate that I appreciate those words man that's powerful when you do the review make sure you tag me I want to check it out I like to add it to my review reaction playlist so just let me know man we'll see each other absolutely definitely will definitely will do thank you again guys to anybody who's hurting I'm not a religious man but I do send my positive vibes and I hope that you can deal with this in any way that's appropriate for you and again let's turn this negative into a positive thank you for listening to me go follow me and let's do this absolutely man y'all go check out Lurch man take care of yourself bro take care guys thank you all right Drew it's on you brother what are your parting thoughts plug whatever you need to plug you got the floor brother first and foremost thank you for having me on I've been following you for a few months now I really enjoy and I appreciate your content resting power to Kevin Samuels I come some of the people in the chat recognize me I come from another community I come from a very powerful boxing community on YouTube so they know me from there I also have another channel the painful excellence podcast in the chat in a second but the term community unity is in the term community is in the word community and I see that here I see that here and it's powerful it's very special and it's not exclusive to anyone you guys know that there's women speaking up on the behalf of men they understand that we are we're suffering nobody's perfect but we're suffering and with the weight of the world on our shoulders we have to show the world that our shoulders are built for carrying you understand too long have we been hammered by false narratives black men don't want anything to do with their children you know all kinds of stuff you know we're not leaders in things of that nature all of that was false and I think that this community this thing that's here is very important for us to take what we know already and Kevin Samuels has kicked in that door and we're not stupid we have all the knowledge that we have already it's right out our fingertips even when the age of technology I say all the time use Google for what it's for okay the information is there you know how many times have you heard people women tell us oh you know good men are either gay or in jail and then Kevin Samuels pulled out the statistics and but the thing is the stats were there all this time but no one bothered to look at it it's all wrong and I know that the world is messed up when I'm watching Steve Harvey and this black woman who's a lawyer gets up and says I want to have a child but I don't want to have anything to do with the man that's being selfish to the child you're about to rage when that child turns about two or three years old and they say where's daddy what you gonna tell that child but single parents have become normalized single parents have become normalized so what people don't realize what I'm saying is for a long time there's been a war against men and we all have to be advocates for men are we perfect no but we're not as bad as we're made out to be so I appreciate you I appreciate everybody that's doing something powerful I understand community trust me I do I'll put my link to my channels in the chat and I'm gonna hang back and I'm gonna watch y'all cook my brothers man listen I love y'all and let's keep on doing what we're doing and we all can be successful it's all love here brother this doesn't do anything unless it turns into this absolutely so we gotta fight absolutely man absolutely like I said if it's anywhere I can add value to your ministry your projects man don't hesitate to reach out brother I sure will man I'm gonna put both my links to my channels in the chat I'm gonna be backstage absolutely alright brother take care yourself alright Mr. T talk to me man yes sir I can hear you what are your parting words so I'd like to end off with I'm not a content creator I don't got really anything to plug but I'm just just one black man trying to be the change I want to see in my community and I mean it's all this kind of what you're doing I think is very important I really like your presentation I was able to show some of your videos and my girlfriend she enjoys them and it's you know all this kind of important and I guess my foreign thoughts would be you know be the change that you want to see because it's not just about you it's about your nephews it's about your cousins it's about your little brothers looking at you looking at your example be the change you want to see for the next generation so it's not just about the content but it's about living our life so you know remember that brothers and you know I appreciate you having me on absolutely man I appreciate you being here and like you know like I was saying before you represent the community of black men that you know for whatever reason you too Kevin Samuels has created and that is absolutely powerful and I don't think we can understate how powerful that actually is so shout out to you brother thank you alright take care of yourself man so yeah we're going to move on to the next four people I see the real Nathan Daly backstage Fahad I see you back there man you've been really patient that's the family John Kyle I see so I'm going to bring up another four and we're again just going to do around Robin if you guys could please just so we can work through everybody keep your points succinct and you'll have the opportunity to give parting words as well so don't feel any pressure to have to say everything you need to say immediately but welcome welcome welcome how you guys doing peace peace how you doing that's doing good yeah good good good hold on one second I'm trying to see what's going on with John alright we'll bring you back up John let's do Kyle instead how you doing Kyle perfect perfect alright so like I said I'm going to mute nah I understand we all are brother so I'm going to mute three of you guys and then we're just going to go around obviously we're going to start with the GOAT the real Nathan Daly what's going on boss man how you doing man I'm doing well man I'm blessed man how you doing man just processing yeah processing yeah man of course rest in peace to Kevin Samuels we all know what it is and so very difficult thing to process me we were talking about this yesterday and there's just been kind of a lot going on we know there's going to be some big changes going on but I think the most beautiful thing is that he left a massive blueprint and a sense of black excellence has been left for us to kind of pick up and kind of move that needle forward and so I want to give a special shout out to you and the content that you're making something unique about you man I haven't had a chance to tell you this but I respect the work that you're doing and there's a lot of value in it and I would also say you're one of the few that are actually challenging these issues in our community without having to use other people's content to do it you came into a space original you came into this space humble and you came in this space with the conviction and also very gifted you have the gift of outside of you being highly intelligent you have a gift with words people want to listen people are willing to open up and have the conversation and even heal from the conversations that you provided on this channel to be honest you're kind of like the yin to the yang of Kevin Samuel's with all due respect you know what I mean so there's greatness obviously within you you've already showcased that the potential for your channel is through the roof when I first came across you I think you had about 9000 subscribers and I was like wow this is this is dope the quality is on point just everything man and me you connected we've just been close ever since and Kevin Samuel will never be replaced right it's not about replacing him but it is about carrying on the job the duty the responsibility again he left a massive blueprint for men to galvanize around and say hey this is how we want take back our image take back our image control the narrative be men of distinction be men of integrity and get our community back in order and I think that is the call and I like that a lot of the brothers are standing up and sisters are standing up as well to answer that call we do have a responsibility to get our community back in order and again your platform is going to be key in that process with Kevin Samuel's passing there's going to be a giant power vacuum there are going to be people who want to we've already seen the ignorance going through social media we've seen the backlash we've seen and even we've seen the love we've seen the support but there are going to be people who are going to try to capitalize on that unfortunately and so I believe honoring him and what he started it's the men like yourself the brothers who've been on this panel men with integrity the women with integrity to step up and control the narrative and really turn this thing around so again shout out to you shout out to Kevin Samuel's and all the work endless work the brother had he had the patience of a monk all right Appalachian monk, a Buddhist monk he had it all because Lord knows I couldn't do it and I thought I had patience so and you too you're selling yourself short man I can't even let you do that you're selling yourself short you know my patience is criminals you know what I mean but women Lord have mercy that's a different thing you know you got to have ears and a heart of understanding and a desire a desire to bring true despite attacks despite shaming tactics despite all those type of weapons that are thrown at you you got to be strong you know I think we downplay the power of words it takes a strong person to be able to take words and have them just roll off of you and keep pushing forward to take the emotions out of an argument out of a situation and move forward with logic, move forward with truth and again you know we're in a situation where though people may be educated they lack the intelligence and so you know Kevin Samuel's displayed high IQ when presenting these issues and addressing them and he's changed a lot of lives mine included and not only that I modeled some features of my channel off of him and things that he talked about in reference to influencing and powering men in this space he spoke about controlling the black male's image and how important that was and so that's something I talk about a lot on my channel how important it is for us as a community to actually recapture our image control that narrative and change that moving forward and it's something that can be done it will be done and as long as we take egos and money and materialistic views out of the equation you know all things are possible for us in my opinion absolutely and you know to brag on you a little bit you're selling yourself short man if Kevin is a monk you are another monk and I've seen you on other platforms even before we became acquainted man I saw you on other platforms I was like who is this former cop really trying to put people on game that's crazy so this vacuum that has been created this work that we're doing man you're going to be a very pivotal piece in it I know you've already been that for me you've helped me make certain connections and I plan on paying you back however I can so I will see you at the top brother bottom line I will see you at the top yes sir so let me move on to Fahad you've been around for a while man how you doing talk to me man what's going through your mind I remember you from another stream man yeah how was up in here man how are you good it's better than last time yeah I listened back I think that was a problem with the headphones yeah today was a hard day for me to be honest with you Kevin without knowing it moved a lot of people I'm not from America so I don't really understand how you guys have taken it there but I know he's impacted people from Africa as well because I'm from Africa so he's done a lot without knowing it his made us want to wear suits I think everyone wants to wear suits right now but yeah it's it's sad and I must say it's also a step to the next level for us to start trying to do something for the black community and for people to start thinking about themselves and not necessarily wait for someone to want to do it for them Kevin some of us could do a lot a lot but I think we could do more like the other brother said as a community right now most of our community is and for a long period of time it's going to remain to be online so discords and patreons and all that is going to be the kind of new way of community we're going to have and I think we need to have more of that just to push the message he started a lot for the community for the short period that he did it and I wish he could stay here for us but I think he's done his bit and it's just for us to do more and make him proud I think he only wants us to sit down crying I think he wants us to do more for ourselves be the best version of ourselves and that's that's what I think we need to do from now on just try and make sure that it's are you being the best version of yourself are you requiring people around you to be the best version of themselves and we might not all be high-value men but we need to strive for that if we fall short we will be somewhere I I've seen Nathan I think in a little beef network so sad that whatever happened there but big up to you, big up to what you do I appreciate you this channel is is different I learn a lot I think I know a lot but trust me this channel has taught me a lot of listening and I'm going to give you flowers when you're still here you do a lot of listening that I might not be able to do but I guess it's for a reason and we need to all learn to do that I'm going to go I'm in the UK right now so it's a little bit late for us I'm going to leave but bless to this channel let's do more discons I'm going to reach out to you and see what we can do how we can create more communities online but for now I'm just going to say rest in peace come in someones and let's pass the message and let's make sure that his message doesn't die that's it absolutely thank you so much shout out to you man this is like I said earlier in the stream one of the most powerful things that Kevin did maybe knowingly maybe unknowingly he galvanized black men internationally and I don't think we can we can really overstate that so a lot of black men have connected professionally personally in the pursuit of excellence and we talk about how masculine energy is missing from a lot of black communities and one of the consequences of that is a lot of boys are walking around aimlessly and somebody like Kevin Samuels was the first time that they saw a grown man well put together man setting expectations and putting benchmarks drawing lines in the sand and that is powerful so you know I'm going to continue doing the work like I said I'm going to show up every Friday even if I don't feel like it you will see a video every Tuesday Thursday I was actually supposed to drop Nathan's video Wednesday but this move has kicked my ass but I will continue to do my part I know for a fact Nathan is going to continue to do his part and whether you're a content creator or you're content creation adjacent we need each and every one of you we need you Fahad we need you Kyle we need you Des we need everybody backstage Philly Kid I see you we need each and every one of you and we're going to keep this thing moving he started the conversation like I said we're going to end it Des I'm the first woman today I'm excited that you're here I'm excited to hear what you have to say absolutely so talk to us what's going on please I want to thank all y'all guys for even keeping his voice and his message alive but um I'm sorry I have a family myself but I just wanted to drop in that's what this is about Matt I'm a woman who paid attention to I call him Mr. Sammy I'm from the south there's just respect but um he's like an uncle to me you know a lot of the value is the things he said about men or what men are looking for he put me on game because as a young woman I thought I came into the game already I'm net so you gotta come and meet me here you know I have a man in my life who you know before even hearing of Kevin Samuels you know who put me up to that standard like you know I understand that but as a man um you have to meet me at a certain level so um I want to thank y'all for that because as a woman I don't see many women out here who's doing what I do I'm a mom I raised my kids that's who come first but I know there's a attack in the war on a family um I'm sorry guys do me a second girls go have a seat for me please thank you you know it's an attack on the family and um we may to be look at a strange I'm yeah I'm 28 so most of my parents not doing this you know even if they have kids they still boss chick mentality you know so um just having a platform where men get up and speak on this is something that's real there's really women out here who respect that and not feeling a personal attack have a seat you know um it don't feel like that's a personal attack on us you know those words um pretty much what I wanted to say I'm sorry they made me lose my train of thought no no no it's it's fine and you know like like I've always stated on my channel I know Nathan has always stated on his channel at the core of black power is the black family so simply existing simply being a mother with the father and and and being in union is is black power so you're doing the work you don't have to be a content creator that is the work and and you know just like we can't overstate what Kevin Samuel's meant we can overstate what you mean black woman thank you I appreciate that I'm sorry and I also I also wanted to say to you keep it going like as men you know y'all under attack and to be a content creator get on here every day knowing that there is women there's people who gon demonize you don't stop people that's naysayers they don't even matter they fall to the wayside this will stop me from being a content creator because I didn't walk there with a black man I didn't walk that is a black woman and from both sides of family you know ridicule when you are telling you oh you could you could do better are you young you're supposed to be doing this or doing that is like no just just in my heart I don't know where I come from I always just felt like now it's something deeper and bigger than me this is something like lineage that we have no idea what Mr. Kevin there was planted a seed all of us talking you guys coming together and you don't really see too many black men coming together positively you know what I mean to to speak on a subject to grow a community or to grow families so salute to y'all and thank you I just wanted to let y'all know y'all appreciate it salute to you salute to you take care of yourself okay you do as well yes ma'am yes ma'am all right Kyle talk to me brother how you doing we're surviving we're getting through the day yes sir yes sir so what are your thoughts on all this man well a lot of my thoughts are centered around just the man's worth work work ethic and his consistency a lot of the things what happens when we're in our community his consistency is a very very hard thing to come by you know work schedules are flexible you know commitments are maybe you know and when he was hitting his schedule Monday Wednesday Friday on YouTube Tuesday Thursday IG and then if something really big happens on the weekend they'll pop up on you I think that was a really big thing that drew a lot of people to him so that's how he retained a lot of people was just showing up showing up when you say you're going to show up if there's a delay there's a delay but doesn't matter if it's 30 minutes or two hours he's still going to do a show and that is what kept people kept people people kept coming for that and that was great and for me what really brought me into it was his back catalog when he was speaking to men for you know two and a half years when nobody was listening before Average at Besh came up when show your work was the phrase and he showed his work consistently how we got better how we kept moving forward and it was a beautiful thing to see that professionalism when most of us I would say even included myself are the first in their family line that are actually professionals that is a requirement to come up to the job either in business casual or full business and someone like in your in your in your line to help you guide through that to show you what the new styles are what a certain cut of suits says in a certain situation it's a huge it's a huge boon to the community because image does matter our image does matter every single day because without even opening our mouths there's already going to be a mindset of who you might be and some people are just going to say this is who you are already until you prove the otherwise so I think that is a like that's a powerful message and it's one that's an enduring message that everybody should take with them every single day is that it ain't just about you it's about your brother it's about your sister it's about your uncle when they do go someone else that looks like you goes into a different situation that maybe they're the only one there or they're new into it how are people going to interact with them how are they going to talk to them on the beginning because first impressions do matter they stick so are they is the other person going to come to them with a cultural image of their consistent they are on their purpose or they're going to come to and say this might be a flake and might not need to trust this person how are we going to be seen as a whole and it's going to be hard to reverse this it's going to be hard to push this boulder in the proper direction but I think that is the enduring legacy and that's what we should move forward with every single day absolutely and you know a lot of people actually don't know but Kevin Samuels when he first entered YouTube he was a an alpha M image consulting protege and he talked about it he talked about how he admired alpha M teaching men's fashion men's style and he wanted to be an image consultant he wanted to transition from sales to image consulting specifically for black men and that's actually how I was introduced to his content this was before average at best he was he was sitting in a car talking about his experience going to a corporate event and looking around and seeing white people looking around and seeing black women and not seeing any black men so he made a video called you belong there and that was incredibly powerful and despite how you know some of the naysayers and the tractors have branded him the man wanted black men and black women together bottom line and one of the things that's interesting in the man's fear is like a lot of content creators black and white are kind of like anti marriage Kevin ironically was pro marriage a lot of people don't really talk about that but Kevin was actually saying listen get your shit together black men so you can attract a high caliber black woman and y'all could create black families and you know that is the core tenant of what I'm doing here so I absolutely love the man on pushing the message forward and you know everything that you do as an individual Kyle everybody in the chat everybody watching everybody watching the replay Nathan helps us get closer to that goal so shout out to y'all shout out to y'all do you have any final words Kyle yeah and I'm gonna take a little off so take a little off your conversations whenever you ask the men and the women what kind of son do you want to raise or what type of daughter do you want to raise um I would say I would want to raise a man that is better than me no matter what I accomplish I want to be able to provide the tools and know how the mentorship the discipline to be able to put out a better man than I am into this world and see what he is able to build so I know it's gonna be on a greater level than mine or at least he's gonna have a greater impact on the world and the people around him than I was because he would have a bigger, longer head start than me so absolutely no shout out to you Kyle I'm really good at remembering faces so when I see you pop back up like I said we do lives every single Friday hopefully next Friday is a lot more jovial there's nobody else leaves pull up and I appreciate what you had to say and I hope to see you soon brother alright I appreciate it take care of yourself man take care alright guys let's move on to the next four this has been a fantastic conversation so far matter of fact let me take some time and run through some of these super chats condemnia shout out to you brother I saw the super chat earlier thank you so much that really helps the ministry you know let's see Daddy Smith said Kevin Sam was changed my life I think his impact changed us all I think we can't understate that R.P. Kevin Sam is the godfather Misshone I see you I caught a little bit of your stream shout out to you excellent content creator y'all make sure you check that out we always talk about women needing to speak up more she is doing the work so y'all definitely go check her out I do better now as a man because of Kevin Samuels I think you know like we've all alluded to he set a standard whether that standard was a monetary standard an aesthetic standard he set a standard and that was massive that is massive for our community especially in light of the things that have been done to break us and to keep us dysfunctional we're breed it's a tough day for the community it doesn't feel real yeah brother it really doesn't feel real but we gonna move forward we're gonna carry the baton the torch we're gonna keep this thing pushing especially with your support man this guy is plugged in he is a goat in his own right so I'm looking forward to really working with him and really knuckling into how we get this thing to the next level brother Samuels can not be lost in his boldness to speak truth along with his tireless efforts can not be in vain rest in peace I couldn't have said it better myself David that is absolutely right and I hope I can do some justice to his work Mike and Vince Perkins what happened on Tommy Sotomayor's show yeah so I hopped on Tommy Sotomayor's stream and was abruptly cursed out and kicked off yeah that's neither here nor there kev helped me step my fragrance game up absolutely I think he was killed we're not gonna get into conspiracy theories today alright Pete Kevin Samuels the women that make fun y'all wrong and y'all they coming too gotta die alone one day too okay we're gonna take that out we do not use profanity here well we use it sometimes but that is a conversation and I think maybe we can unpack that next week but some of the fallout of this has been very concerning and I will definitely be adding some questions to my line of questioning during like regular interviews but we might do a stream just dedicated to like what that means and what work is ahead of us in regards to that um let's see Jim rat I want to work through these so I can bring up the next four black women on social media celebrating Kevin's death keep in mind they're women y'all call queens like I said we will get to that brother I promise Kevin Samuels left such a huge body of work through which his legacy will live on rest of peace brother your job is done and now it's our job to keep it going um I just want to say brother that your work is just as astounding as Kevin Samuels and you I'm humbled man I'm humbled the title of your videos even more significant meaning now I thought about that you know it's uh I didn't I didn't think when I named the series Kevin Samuels started this conversation it would be and and in memoriam and I don't think I fully process what that means um but I'm like I said before I'm nervous as hell and excited as hell and sad as hell all at the same time heart broken needs someone with his passion intelligence and heart he cared so much for us and he face hate every day for our sake so one of the things that's really important about this and I bring it up during some of my conversations and even in you know real life just regular conversations the opposite of love is not hate it's apathy and the the the vital piece to that is a lot of people think when you're critiquing when you're talking bad about something it means that you dislike it when it's actually the opposite the fact that this man dedicated his nights his evenings drank red bowls sometimes to stay up and give women perspective is huge and it means that at his core he actually wanted black women black men and I think we definitely need to you know shine the right light on his work as you can see the visual on the on the screen this is what he wanted black male excellence because the ripple effect is black community excellence you know one of the things we're talking about right now me and Nathan have even had conversations about how black boys performing poorly affects the black community you know so shout out to the goat man shout out to the goat let me skip ahead to some super chats yeah so condemn you again brother thank you so much shout out to Perry unlikely for a suggestion of making May 5th suit day in honor of Kevin Samuels I already got my suit ready for 2023 if my lighting was good I would award a suit today but you know again we are redefining black excellence and that includes the aesthetic so you know whenever we start doing events yet we start doing meetups I will be suited and booted I just want you all to know that and I expect that from you all as well so so yeah let's do that I've been talking too much let's bring up the next string of goats Philly kid what's going on brother Timothy sweats I'm gonna bring Nate Nate I'm gonna bring you right back up brother how are you guys doing man good brother how you doing how you doing man man I'm living man I'm living I'm processing man I'm processing so I'm gonna start with you Timothy man what's going through your mind how is the last 24 hours been for you have you been processing what's going on what do you think it means well first off I want to thank you for letting me be on here and I guess to answer your question it kind of threw me off when I first you know everybody thought it was a hoax and everything but I think this is going to shed a lot of light in the future because it's going to kind of have people like he re-review his message even his detractors and it's probably going to give him more respect even though I know he passed away and everything but because he he gave he gave you another side of looking at like relationship and stuff that's one thing I noticed it by him it wasn't like like everybody would say they didn't agree to everything most people don't agree to everybody's but he gave you something just different and one thing one of the things I noticed it by him he would he would tailor his information towards the women getting the women to understand men better just like how we got to understand women that was like a light bulb for me when that one of his messages that's when I was like I can rock with this guy because you know women want to hold us accountable for everything you know that but we don't we can't hold them accountable for nothing you know so what he was trying to do was give them the other side to give us that same respect that we got to give women and that was powerful to me absolutely absolutely I saw one of his clips that recently just went viral again when he was saying that you know part of the reason he does this work is that black men have been doing the work black men have been improving themselves black men have been stepping up and we're not getting the proper you know recognition for that we're actually still getting demonized and what's what's you know I think really speaks to that most people don't realize this but the only reason Kevin Samuel started talking to women is because his male clients his male consulting clients after they got their style up obviously these are already high earning men came back to him and said yo we can't find any good women and you know that is a big part of this that's missing like he wasn't just a jaded individual who wanted to talk shit for the sake of talking shit literally his clients came back and said what is going on with our women right now seriously when he was talking shit about men how many haters are you going to get because men are used to getting critiqued from athletics to our moms to our girlfriends we're used to getting critiques but how dare you say anything outside of exaltation to women and that's the only reason you know it hit the media the way that it did and you know like I said we're going to keep it going we're going to keep having this conversation I think my part of this is to model how to do it in a way that's going to be effective every day because you know you can't talk to your mom and your sisters and your girlfriend like Kevin it's not going to work you can talk you can talk a little bit like me and that's you know what you're going to do so shout out to you brother was there anything else you wanted to say before I was going to lastly say that the man he was really on to something like he would say he said let's start the conversation that was it right there he was just trying to change the way people thought about certain things I mean like I said I think people are going to go back to his videos and re-listen to what he's actually saying even his detractives I really believe that but yeah I appreciate you I'll let me know on everything I'll listen to other people on here absolutely man yeah man like I said come out anytime if I see you backstage man I'm going to pull you up so shout out to you brother thank you I didn't give you a chance to give a closing remark closing statement but yeah what did you have to what did you have to add brother no you good bro I was going to shout out to Philly the Kid shout out to you brother what's going on man everything's well man everything's well I see brother Ken hard at work I heard that I would say this I think you brought up a good point a lot of people bring up the fact that they think he was clout chasing right when he started talking about women you know Kevin Samuels has always been from what I've seen a problem-solver he looked at a particular problem and said how can I bring insight to this issue even though I know it's going to be a difficult conversation to have he had it anyways and he did it with excellence right and so he stepped into the game and when I started my channel I questioned whether or not I should be in a suit because I understood the level you know he came in the game and kind of forced everyone to kind of raise their standards right so he created this standard in a sense so when I started my channel I'll never forget I started in October and I was talking to the lead attorney I said hey I said the standard right now of black excellence I think Kevin Samuels really set the bar where it needs to be it's where it needs to be and you know granted he had us back and forth but he was very very direct he was very professional he managed his channel very professionally as well so I tried to mimic a lot of those things from him that I've learned I just didn't do a suit because I felt like it didn't match my content but you know I honor his I would say his standard by putting on a suit when I bring my guest on right when I have professionals come on my channel I get suited up and that was actually specifically because of something that I took from Kevin Samuels and how he created this blueprint on content and then also expectations so on my channel I have a thing where I don't debate people unless they're cammed up they can't come on and talk unless they're cammed up and that's again another standard that I took from him as well and so it's I think it's powerful when you see someone that you can you admire their work ethic and then you kind of mirror it to yourself I'm like man I'm not doing as good as he is not because of the quality of the content but because of the work ethic and so I think that's something that we can all challenge ourselves on is being more consistent previous guy you had made that statement and I agree with that for myself being more consistent and then also being just kind of bringing a different vibe to the entire space that we're not accustomed to and find new ways to reach our people and get the message out so you know I think what did he do right this man single-handedly removed a veil of ignorance that has been plaguing our community for a while for a long while and he challenged it and I would say successfully shattered it you know you have some that are still going to wave the flag around that's fine bless their heart but the lives he impacted the people he brought together the value he brought into this space and to the lives of our community is completely it's paramount man it's complete paramount so shout out to Kevin Samuels again and again thank you brother for your channel and what you are doing and you are needed more than ever before now that there's this space is in so many ways empty but I think the best way that we can honor him and the message and the work that he did was for us to continue to bring men together continue the conversation so pick up where he left off and start talking about solutions and then also how to actually get this thing back in order we know what the problems are we've seen it he's exposed them even yourself you've exposed them on this channel as well I think the true the true mission now moving forward is the man has a catalog that you could write books off of but the whole idea now is how do we implement these things how do we repair these things how do we fix it how do we course correct I think that's going to be the mission moving forward for those who want to fill in the space that Kevin Samuels has left behind though we know his work his hard work won't be forgotten we still need to make sure we come with it with a mind of solutions in my mind that's how I look at it whatever you need from me however I can be of service and support you have my support 100% brother so again shout out to everybody in the chat for joining in with us tonight and all the support that you guys have lend this brother it's it's a powerful movement man and we've got to come together like on some Voltron type stuff you know that thing oh yeah appreciate you again brother always man absolutely man it's up from here I think I'm a big believer of celebrating somebody's life celebrating somebody's legacy and I think at the core and as this image in the background shows he wanted black male unity that's what the man is fear was originally supposed to be about that's what black power is founded upon is the idea of black men coming together with one band one sound one mindset of repairing what was done to us and repairing our families and getting our women under our protection and under our guidance and your work is vital in that and you know I ain't got to say much man you know what's going on you know what we're doing so I'll see you soon brother I'll be pulling up to Atlanta for your 10k celebration mods definitely drop his channel in the chat y'all definitely go check out fantastic content create a fantastic person definitely go check out Mr. Nathan daily I will see you soon brother appreciate it brother peace out you guys yes sir Philly what's going on brother what's going on king how you doing man can you hear me alright I'm not at the crib so I'm on my phone so it's all good now we can hear you we can hear you so how you doing man what's going on with you man I'm good man I'm good I want to say this right Kevin Samuels is somebody that okay so Kevin has become what a lot of us want to be right and what I mean by that is Kevin came to YouTube as a regular everyday person right just like me and you regular everyday person and when he when he left he's a legend right he's a legend his legacy is see minute and I mean he's he's not going anywhere right and this is what I truly believe and this is going to sound kind of controversial right but I just kind of want to listen to the kind of follow right so Kevin and I truly believe this right I truly truly believe this Kevin Samuels is going to be like a Jesus Christ right not as not as like the role model but just as the model right because Jesus Christ had disciples right so everybody was preaching Jesus you know the Christianity Jesus Christ's his message right Christianity if you go back in history Christianity wasn't really getting any traction until he died right until Jesus died right so now I truly believe know that Kevin has passed right all the people that are teaching his message are his disciples right and now that he's passed his message is going to gain traction right I truly believe it's going to blow up like I was looking at it today the man made the breakfast club you know what I'm saying like I mean he's making the mainstream right and a lot of these people especially these black women who are celebrating him um that's dangerous that's extremely dangerous you know what I mean because everything has an unintended consequence to it right because you're celebrating him right you're putting more eyes to his message right regardless if you're trying to be negative or not you're bringing more eyes to his message and that's how you get the message out by bringing more eyes to it you know what I mean so I mean that's really it man I really think it's going to blow up man I do definitely brother definitely and you know it's all responsibility as black men to get keep that narrative you know one of the things that was done to break us is to make sure that we didn't own our own narrative the popular narrative of the black man the thug and the degenerate and the imbecile and people like Kevin Samuels are setting a different standard so we must protect that at all costs image is everything brand is everything there's a reason why coca-cola and all these big fortune 500 companies invest millions and billions in lawyers because they understand brand is everything so we must protect our brand as black men with our lives and you know we're going to keep doing the work I know you're going to keep doing the work you know I mean your corner anything you know you need for me man don't hesitate to reach out brother oh yeah no doubt man I appreciate it man ay man we all come to I mean ay I'm in Atlanta too man so when y'all come let me know brother we can do it big call me say less say less say less I got you take care of yourself alright brother man y'all be good man alright man bye bye alright what's going on bros Ken I think you made it what's up man man chillin man how you doing I'm good bless that's good I see you working man yeah I took some time I was like if I can get in here real quick I speak my peace or whatever I appreciate that man you have the absolute floor man take it away alright so I took some notes cause I came from a different background I came from Patrice O'Neill O.G yeah I came from Patrice O'Neill and I think time lock is over here and Tommy Sotomayor it was a flaw in some of their content cause the way they speak well ain't nobody going to listen to anything or there's a lot of cussing in it nobody's going to listen to anything that has harsh criticism or name calling or any sort of anger so I was like I watched it cause I understood it it's pretty much like what Kevin Summie said you eat the meat and spit out the bone or as what Jordan Peters would say you would you do not want to throw the baby out with the bathwater so I took content the pieces of the content applied to me or what could effectively work took notes saved it and then I went forward and I gave advice to my circle of friends about that but his deaf I understand deaf I think the best thing is that he died on top for Kevin Summie that's a plus because same thing with Patrice O'Neill he died at a point where he had more snowball effect but it was good enough for everybody to go back and as Kevin Summie said he was motivated by Patrice O'Neill so I was like yeah it makes sense the way he speaks about it and goes about it it's pretty much similar to the same stuff but I started off pretty much what he was doing the reason why I was watching him is because he had a panel of people he was talking to I don't have that so I only sat there to watch him talk to the people and try to break down different arguments and points I wanted to see what it was like what do you do when talking to a woman when she gas like she went to conversation right away or what do you do or what do you say or identify what that means when she says this thing or the way she react this way and it was like okay I get it I understand you do it this way sometimes when I watch some of the stuff that he was doing normally these girls are nervous so they do things out of nervousness and I never knew that and now when I talk to people I try to calm them down in the conversation so they won't retaliate in a way like it's a fight or fight type sense and it works out really good it really works out really good God bless the brother so he did a heck of a whole lot I think the only issue that I have with people understanding him is that he even stated if you watched all his content which is a whole lot if you follow his content or at least watch the end part of it he gives the final message of what he's really doing and I think I don't think a lot of people like to watch clips you know hurry up and get it out the way I ain't got time for it but the ones who actually invest in his content invest in watching it the message was four black people he even got a group I forgot his group name on Facebook we had many women getting together to get married and he keeps screaming at it but nobody would post that to share that but it's there he did what he was supposed to do and like everybody else said you got to carry the torch I consider this channel the next channel that can carry his message the right way because the way you speak in a calmly manner you speak clearly you give a people a chance to speak their side you don't cut them off too much but you want to give people a chance to speak you kind of mix of Kevin Samuels mix with Jordan Peterson because Jordan Peterson knows how to disgain his argument based on just listening on both sides and eventually it'll get to that point where it's like okay the person understands I think the only thing people just didn't like is the fact that how he said things or when he was cutting off somebody and they sounded like they wanted to cry and I can understand that I can understand that I appreciate you brother part of what inspired me was I realized that not too long ago I was approaching a conversation like Kevin Samuels I was approaching it like some of us for me and I talk about this sometimes for me it was about crossing you over and hitting you with a windmill dunk and putting my nuts in your face in conversation I would do that with my sisters I would do that with people that I knew and eventually I realized that it was ineffective I realized that do I want to understand yeah Kevin Samuels even said that too right and that's what led me to this current disposition man so we're all a work in progress but I'm just glad to be part of this movement brother like this is big so with everybody's help we can do something great something monumental and I'm excited about that absolutely you always want to feel hard and feel better man that little piece you said there is a part of you feeling you feel better and you learn snowball effect you can't stop you want to start going so it's always hard starting off and the big thing is to ask why pretty much you want to ask why at the end of the day and this is why we're here trying to figure out the other end you never want to one of the things I've learned from this podcast and listen to understand it's triggering God knows it's triggering but I don't intervene with what the message is and if the message is put out and that's the way you want to speak your message I have no problem with it I have to understand what you're talking about plenty of content for us we'll just go ahead absolutely listen I want to appreciate you brother thank you so much man I'm going to pull you back up I'm going to take some time I'm going to take some time to try because I'm always on the road let's do it take care of yourself God bless you brother thank you yes sir alright so let's move on to the rest of the Voltron we got John in the back we got Chief Cook I see you being patient JB Magnum I see you base Perry I see you I'm going to prioritize the people with their cams up and working so John I think there have been some issues with your connection feel free to come back up JB what's going on brother I seen a little podcast what's going on brother Magnum I see you your image is kind of grainy but we can see you so it's alright and base Perry how you fellas doing man good man that's good yes sir I can hear you I know we're all kind of processing what just happened like I said before we're just going to do a round Robin and I'm going to mute the other three and each of you will have a chance to speak your piece so I'm going to start with you Magnum how you doing first of all I'm good man it came as a shock hearing that about I was up about 3.30 this morning just getting off work work remotely and I do streaming and all that other stuff but I was surprised when I got that message like on my way to sleep and I was like oh man you kidding me right like I've been subscribed to this dude for well over a year so I've been focused on grinding and getting myself together and building my own channel and being a light of vision to other people and he was a huge huge motivation in that so to see that he gone is oh man it's tough yeah man where do you think we need to go from here where do you think we need to take the message well I'll be honest fellas we need to take the help and Moody's things forward because we can't just pause and be more focused on the messenger than the actual message we gotta be pragmatic as he would say so you know he was like to me more like Solomon on the earth I know the brother was talking about he's like Jesus I wouldn't take it that far but as far as being a brother who was focused on the community being a more solid structure having a more a solid foundation with the male and the female with the male being head of the house female being underneath and the children being underneath her and he being underneath God and focusing in on that and continuing to I'll be honest with you serve our purpose if we serve our purpose then I think we should be we have a hard time working together so if we get over that hurdle right there where those of us who have the same like my mindedness if we collaborate we work together and we keep pushing that agenda that we have for ourselves and don't let anybody interrupt us I think we should be fine absolutely brother absolutely no those those words are profound man I'm going to keep doing the work you know in my little slice of YouTube I'm going to keep pushing the conversation forward I just became a subscriber to your channel hey I appreciate that man I'm going to need all the support I can get even if you know you can't necessarily send money send it to somebody you know send the video to somebody you know hit that like man you see I'm in the dungeon in the struggle stream hey listen you being here to support my brother so you know I don't want to take that for granted so I appreciate you man no problem let the other brothers get a chance to speak yeah most death most death so let's go to JB you've been super patient my brother I appreciate you for that the floor is yours what's going on my brothers can you hear me yes sir we can hear you man I want to just give you the thank you for watching your channel now goodness me and my boy tell we are the same age right around the same age as Kevin and tell my boy tell you know he's the one that kind of like turned me on to him because I was following him for a minute but then I was like man he was aggressive I was like well okay well let me just back up a little bit and then he said nah you got to look at and then come back to the new so I did that matter of fact I got a chance I'm one of the caretakers to my elderly mother who's about you know 90 something that God bless her man right and so I'm in New York and I'm there for two months last year and so at that same time I said you know what let me go see what this Kevin Samuels guy got to say and man I absorbed all his stuff his old stuff man I'm talking like I didn't see the video that you that you suggested the one that you mentioned about you should be here I didn't see that yeah yeah I added it to the community tab so yeah you can check that out after I'm gonna check that out but I listened to all the other stuff that he was mentoring so many of these brothers that were there and you know he just he had this disability to just like say hey dude you need to you know he it was it was like in a way that he was it was like tough love but it was at same time it was more like you know what I'm rooting for you bruh man you can do this you can you can go and get this this this money up you can go and do these things because I did it you know I'm saying I had to do it right and so what's learning more about him it took it gave me such a different perspective of his approach and things that he was doing what he was he was about you know and so it made me have a much better um understanding of him and then I got a chance to see more of his new stuff and I was like man you know he's really he's really you know giving so much knowledge out here I know people think you know a lot of the naysayers were saying you know how aggressive he was with some of the women's how he did some things that were they didn't appreciate but man I I was more appreciative as I saw his stuff going forward and then I looked at more of the ministry looked at a bunch of brothers that are out there including yourself um and it just became more apparent that you know I wanted to start something myself and my boy tellin I just said you know what maybe we can come together and do something and we've been doing that but we haven't launched yet we just you know trying to make it happen but I just want to just want to say that Kevin met so much to me in terms of the fact that like I said I'm the same age um you know I'm about two years difference and it made sense in terms of some of the things that he was expressing to people who I guess they thought that they they knew but they didn't know and he he had not had a way to himself like I said he was that uncle that you know that that that that big brother that that whatever it was that we did not have in our lives I grew I grew up with with a mother and father in the household but unfortunately my father put it this way my mom wore the pants in the family okay and he was a great dad but he wasn't a role model in terms of the in terms of the provider figure the husband figure you know I'm saying all of those things and um he was a wonderful dude and I loved him to to his dying day passing but it didn't give me the ability to have a better understanding of what I needed to do as a man and so fast forward to some of the things that Kevin had to offer man I was like man I was as I listen to his early stuff man I just ate it up and I understood more of what I need to do and and how my own existence is is here and I'm here for a reason in order to you know not just absorb some of the stuff but but tell my own experiences things that has happened to me things that I've looked at in life you know being in the same age now one of the things I did let me tell you this today I because of this tragedy I wouldn't um made my appointment for my um my annual physical okay um I I checked my insurance yet again you know what I'm saying based on the things that I have in life insurance and I implore so many of the brothers that I either listen to us that listen to you I'm sad for his loss I really am because I'm like man he had a whole lot more than I know he had in the schedule that he wanted to do and going forward but at the same time I'm looking at this that too many of us bruh are are not doing something proactively about the health I know he was in tip top condition based on his you know doing his thing but we don't we as men for some reason unless we have somebody who's checking on us we don't want to go to that doctor we don't want to go check on something we don't want to figure out what's happening with our bodies and all this other stuff we if we you know we're all you know you view the alpha man on man's man you're like oh man this thing is hurting in my side of my my throat or whatever that's nothing that's nothing don't worry about it right we just keep it moving rather than you know what I need to go check that out I need to figure out what's what's going on I had I had that recollection just when this thing came down I was like wait a minute are you kidding me he's only 56 years old but no no I'm 54 I'm like nah I I am going to now be more proactive like I said just just got my my annual scheduled gonna be two weeks and I want to be here for my kids I want to be here for those who will who will rely upon me and so I'm just like looking at this and saying you know when this whole thing came about I was like man it was like first I didn't believe it at second I was like nah he not he just he's I he's gonna be okay and then when his mother confirmed it I was like what the heck just happened and it just made a difference in terms of like okay where where all where's this all gonna go where's where are we gonna you know it was almost like he left us not necessarily the lurch but I'm more like you know he had so much more to tell us and to express I'm pretty sure he has stuff on the back burner that we don't even know about that we'll probably hear about a little later but I'm just looking at this right now saying hey next man up you know you had that adage you know I think if you're familiar with that that term next man up next man up next man up and and just because he's he's now he's gone and you know you know shout out to people like yourself who have already established something in your channel in bringing more of this awareness to us all you know I'm saying and the fact that he's normal we're gonna be here and he's not gonna be able to do those lives and be able to give us the you know the nuggets that he's been doing we can't we have to look at it and say okay everyone is here for a spell and you're there we don't know our time so we have to somehow any which way we can prolong it is a wonderful thing so that means we gotta go and take care of ourselves we gotta go and take that annual physical we gotta go and make sure we got our life insurance together you know what I'm saying because that next gen you know we have to prepare for Kevin was was giving us that blueprint in terms of like okay get your money up get your status up get all these things that that are needed and necessary because if you have a son or daughter or whatever that next is you need to show them and give them that information and pass it on so I'm sad that he's gone I hear all the a lot of the chatter about the naysayers but I don't even look at that I'm like okay he did what he needed to do and he gave us this this ability to understand things in a different way and as a black man we just needed him we needed him for this time being and I'm hoping and praying that your channel a bunch of the others that are out there and maybe even the one that myself and my boy tell what I'm going to launch could help and perpetuate this the same narrative and keep this thing going and that's that's all I want to say I appreciate you having this forum for us I appreciate you consider me a resource whenever you guys drop that whatever I can do to push your message I like your orating skills so just let me know keep me posted brother I appreciate it man definitely do thanks so much for having this forum and just you know keep it going my brother keep it going yes sir I will I can't stop now I can't it's bigger than me now so I appreciate you sir well one other thing man did anyone ever tell you your voice are you can to the gentleman who who played spawn what's his name white I I I I wish I hear your voice and I'm like every time I heard it because you know on the camera most of the time on your videos and every time I'm hearing them and I'm thinking that's gotta be the white man you gotta be there because that voices is distinctive in there bruh man keep it going bruh I appreciate it thank you sir I appreciate it I appreciate it alright I seen your little podcast how you doing brother let me take you off mute you're muted yeah there we in me yes sir how you doing I've been better yeah I think we're all still processing yeah so what what are your thoughts man what's been going through your mind since Thursday um you know I was kind of weird because I was at work and my daughter called me and I'm like listen I'm at work I'm at the call you back I'm about to get off in a minute and so I guess I wasn't moving fast enough she takes me back like 10 minutes later and I call back I'm like look what's up and she was like at first she was kind of giggly and then she was like I was just calling to see if you I'm like her what about Kevin Samuels and so I thought she was about to say some more rumor rich stuff like about his sexuality or something like right somebody called him out on that again and she like oh he did and I'm like look I know you wouldn't you know better than to play like that and she like no I wouldn't play like that now and you know she just she said something to me on him and what she said because in my mind just immediately like was processing it then started googling from my phone seeing a couple of posts and stuff and was like wow my intentions was to stay at work for another hour I went straight to my supervisor and said yo I'm finna go because I didn't want anybody to see me emotional in there I didn't want nobody to ask me about it what was going on with me so I left and I got in the car I called my lady I'm talking to her because my lady started texting me right at the same time it was so weird and I'm just knowing that she's calling the city the same thing but she was calling me some totally different and then I started talking to her and I was okay talking about it talking about it talking about it about how I just feel like like we can't have nobody bro like as black men it almost feels like it's illegal or like it's against the universe or god or whatever you would like to call it for us to have representation um I mean whether it's Marcus Garvey to Malcolm X to you know the black panthers Fred Hampton, Harold Washington I mean Patrice O'Neill for that matter all the way to Kevin bro it's like why you know what I'm saying why aren't we allowed representation nobody has said this and I hate the beauty conspiracy theorists but nobody is going to pay me to believe that this wasn't intentional I just don't it's nothing I can nothing anybody could say to me to make me not think that this wasn't a hit job like it's just nothing nobody could say and and and that's probably I'm acknowledging that I don't have any evidence of that I'm acknowledging that I often speak about how it seems black men a lot from the last generation and my generation aren't even making it 250 let alone out of their 50s um but at the same time it just seems so unfair and so unreal that somebody who actually managed to be able to speak from such an emotional place but prolifically you know what I mean without all of the emotion without all of the foul language with a very professional and ethical image even though I wasn't even a fan of all the high value talk but that didn't matter I wasn't dismayed by the high value talk I understood the entire message but once I got to the house anyway last night because I don't want to be long-winded as soon as I pulled in the driveway turned the key and the door I started crying because that's when it just like really hit me like bro we can't have nobody bro like it's absolutely unfair now I'm listening to all these different conversations thankfully I have not seen any of the rhetoric I've heard people talk about as far as women celebrating his passing I haven't seen any of it I'm thankful that I have it um but I'm hearing all of the talk where do we go from here this and that it's just like I have zero faith bro that things gonna get better than it get worse I mean this everybody has noted that this is a great channel that you have here the presentation is absolutely different is absolutely beautiful to see and I think you're doing a very very very very not just a good job but a prudent job for the community as a whole with the conversations in the presentation I appreciate that but we all know it's something about having a leader bro it's something about having a guy that you can look at to where anytime anybody has anything critical to say you can be like well just look at this guy right I'm not saying it right but listen to this guy well I my appearance ain't right but look at this guy it's something about that and this is what this is what's really weird to me right now I'm about to actually do my own broadcast I'm about to talk about this on my channel like it's amazing to me how many people don't know who Kevin Samus is I'm at work today and I'm just walking up to different brothers I'm like man that's crazy about Kevin Samus who is that I'm like what I'm telling guys like bro you under violation bro like we have to beat your body later cause you don't know who my man is you know but at the same time I know it's this is a different space not everybody is aware of what's going on in the mantel sphere but it's I want to make sure that the people that rock with me the people that's under the sound of my voice know who bro was and is and always will be and again like it's a lot of other people including yourself man and other channels that I rock with from Anton and J.R. with LePief Coach Greg and just a lot of other people man like that in the past few years have put me in a different mental space as a man what I should accept what I should be trying to be and we need that we need that black man already don't get any empathy from our own community absolutely from the very people that raise us they act like they weren't there for it like we just wake up 18 and damaged and so when you have somebody that's saying hey listen yeah I'm gonna hold the man accountable I did that for three years it's your turn now right and you can't come at me and call me broke that was great I turned one of my uncles on to him the first time I showed him a video he was like man I don't like cats like that three weeks later he was texting me saying yo you know I've been watching your boy you know what I'm saying yeah and been watching him every since he would be trying to put me on the stuff and I'd be like you know I watch him right like you can't but I mean I just want to thank you man for allowing me to say my peace I'm about to do my show alone because my co-host are under the weather but I just wanted to kind of just share the camaraderie with you brothers real quick just so I could not feel so alone as I take this journey tonight I'm definitely gonna dedicate at least the first half hour of my show to bro man so respect to you please keep doing what you're doing please eat vegetables and fruit and drink water you know what I'm saying please bro we need you man I must respect to you I thank you I appreciate you my brother and you know this this black male lead media space is vital so the work that you're doing the work that you know people like Nathan are doing is vital so anyway I can add value to your ministry brother please do not hesitate to let me know no doubt yes sir yes sir so yeah absolutely brother respect to you take care of yourself base Perry you've been super patient I want to appreciate you for that brother the floor is entirely yours of course thank you I appreciate you having me on I've been a fan of yours since the beginning you popped up in my feed and I go by a different name on YouTube but I've been a fan of yours I've been engaged in the comments and everything and I really like the way that you guys get down with stuff so I appreciate it man thank you I want to give you your flowers and everything right now but as far as Kevin you know I've kind of got a unique kind of story how I came across this content I've actually done a lot of video editing for people on YouTube since like 2016 and I've worked a lot in the commentary space where they kind of just talk about the things that are going on on YouTube little sensations drama and stuff like that I'll edit videos for them and someone was doing a video on Kevin Timmels when he was kind of first starting to blow up in 2020 and the first video I saw of him was the one where he was it's kind of his first viral video before Average at Best the one where he was talking to the guy and he asked him you know about the size of his his charm I remember that yeah and that was the first video I ever saw of him and then it was just a really funny thing but something kind of struck with me because you know I was making a good amount of money I was taking care of me and my girl I have a daughter taking care of all of that but there was something missing there and like that video just kind of struck with me that entire conversation and I went through got that job done and then I just kind of started to tune into his videos more and more and even the relationship stuff that was talking about it was just his strict definitions of what it is to be a man because me unfortunately I'm somebody that grew up without a strong father figure so this was a lot of stuff that I never really had the experience of talking with having these conversations or even having these ideas breach to me so um ooh I don't know man I'm sorry this is honestly the first time this has really kind of hit me I was watching his live show Wednesday night um and then Thursday you get hit with the news so yeah you did a lot of important go ahead I'm sorry no I know all I was going to add was like I I'm not going to lie I shed a couple tears this morning I don't know if it was specifically for or about Kevin or it was me considering my own mortality or thinking about some of the people that I've lost but it hit me like yesterday I was still in like ah it's not real land then this morning I was like oh shit this is real so I'm with you brother I'm right beside you I'm right with you so this is a safe space and this catharsis is super important so go ahead man I feel like you have more to say yeah no but I honestly I think it's a combination of all of that because um I actually put my mom on to Kevin Samuel's around the same time that I saw him because I just showed a little video because I thought she would think it was funny so um and then the more and more I saw it I would show her things like this and without like going into specifics of my life if my mother would have made different decisions for her life she could have ended up like a lot of the women that called into a show so she had like a unique perspective when she was watching it like these people are completely out of their minds they don't know what you know what life real life really is you know there's a lot of compromise that needs to be made and there's a lot of concessions if you want to live a good life and my mom she lives a really good life now all of her kids are grown around the house we all got her own life her own things going on and she's able to live a life where she can go on vacation and do all these things with my stepdad and she's happy so now looking back when she watches that stuff she looks back on she sees a naivety that's going on in all of these people where they want these things because it's presented in these easily accessible ways like social media whereas when she was coming up she didn't have any of that it was just real world interactions you meet who you're going to meet and you have to make value judgments based off of the actual character of a person and not this persona they're putting up on their tender profile yeah so so yeah I think it's really a combination of all of that because when we were talking I brought up how I was watching his show and then five hours later the police were getting called to his apartment it's just a shocking realization of how how borrowed our timers is on this earth and just how really urging his messages for both men and women yeah you know because I know you have a kid too so and you're out here and you're doing what you have to do because at the end of the day our time is limited and you want to set them up for the best possible situation and I applaud you for that I really love what you're doing here on your channel I appreciate it man I really appreciate it and this gives me a new found motivation at this point like I can't I can't not do it anymore I have to answer to you I have to answer to my daughter I have to answer to our black women so I'm gonna keep the work going is there anything you're working on that you would like to promote don't be bashful or whatever oh no I actually don't have anything publicly that I'm working on I'm actually going to school and trying to learn some UX design so all of my creative endeavors are on back order until then shout out to the US community I'm also a UX designer if I could be a resource man reach out to me I mean if you ever need some editing okay we can connect or whatever but shoot me an email man because that's actually something I've been talking about just to speed up the workflow so definitely shoot me an email we'll connect yeah definitely is it linked in your YouTube stuff yeah yeah it's in the description it's just WNTTALK WNTtalk at gmail.com we'll talk soon brother alright I appreciate you brother have a good night absolutely man you too man so um let's see so we've got Chief Cook uh Chief Cook are you back there I'm here alright sounds good let me bring up three other people blackmail.tv how you doing my brother s.dot I see you I'm way too sit down how you doing my brother and the illustrious Courtney Michelle are you back there as well I'm here perfect so uh let's start with you Courtney and then uh we'll go to blackmail um so you know if you know you guys don't know Courtney was featured on Tuesday's video um Courtney was also featured on I think last Tuesday's video the Tuesday before that's video and she um talked about a conversation that she had with Kevin Samuel so ironically um that's you know the subject of this live so Courtney how are you doing how are you thinking how are you um I'm doing good it's been um it was a really rough day yesterday and today a lot better um it's been a lot better because you know people reaching out um and showing a lot of unity which is good especially amongst content creators um so I'm doing a lot better yesterday um I couldn't sleep so I went live at like two o'clock in the morning just kind of sharing my story and history with Kevin um it's interesting because it's been like a year since I've known him so it's been yesterday was hard so today's a lot better so where do you think um we go from here as a you know black community content creator community what do you think he would want us to do next um so he wasn't much of a sensitive emotional person he was very very matter of fact so it's kind of you know dust yourself off get back up and finish the work so there's no lapse of time that I think Kevin would want I think he would want us to continue on where he started um I think it's been since that average best video blew up so looking about almost two years now he made an incredible um impact on a lot of people lives a lot of conversations a lot of relationships a lot of how women can some of us are finally seeing ourselves and coming to reality and actually wanting to listen to men I don't I think that's it's it's it's never happened before I know I've said so many times where you know who can hold us accountable and he did and I think he did because he was consistent and didn't let a naysayer or negativity impact his message um he stayed above the phrase and um you know that's just some of the stuff that I appreciate him for so how we go further is continue continue having the hard conversations not being scared of uh someone policing your tone or saying something that might not be so PC I mean if it's true then it's true and it needs to be told so I think that's how we move on we just we don't stop at all absolutely absolutely and and you know I'm honored to be in community with with you um I'm excited about what we're what we're building what we're working on and I can't I can't wait for us to really really really take this thing to the next level because I mean he said he's laid out the foundation he's he's drawn up the blueprint so now it's just time for us to execute yeah um you know just meeting you and I think I told you that's a little bit yesterday where um I you interested him your content your conversations your ability um to have women open up so freely um he was intrigued so I think he saw something in you that quite frankly thousands now are seeing in you but he did so I think that he would tell you what you're doing is impactful what you are is brilliant and you know keep it going you got something special and even the idea of you using him as a starting point um I think he felt very proud but now it's time to move to the next level so I'm sad but um I'm excited to see what happens next and I just hope that it's um for movement of our culture because we can't afford to be stagnant and we definitely can't afford to go back to where we were absolutely yeah absolutely well you know I'm committed I'm in this you know to the wheels fall off so that I know we gonna make this happen yeah by any means necessary absolutely and you know I'm here um for you I think uh some I think it's important that women also um start speaking up I've seen a lot of negativity that's followed in the past 24 hours with women um and so I think it's important that men also see that how impactful he was in our lives and he definitely was so yesterday I dedicated the show for him and you know I can just do my part um in what he told me to do so I got you back you know I'm ready you know I got you you know how to reach me absolutely so you guys carry on I don't want to take up time but I just wanted to call it to support um you know he's it's a boy in the space already fill it so now it's like moving forward it's a void but I think you can plant something or try to we have to like I said he started something adult you can't knock off a movement that's right that's right energy cannot be created to destroy it it just transfers so we're gonna keep it moving I appreciate you so much Courtney all right I do too darling I'll talk to you later yeah we'll talk later bye all right let me bring the brothers back up um that's that black male how you guys doing man chief chief I didn't forget about you if you could cam up man it would be best um but how are you fellas doing man so far so good I mean the news hit man oh man it's uh interesting watching all these reactions reviews and everything but uh looking at your show today it's beautiful it I'm actually happy that the outcome on your show is is becoming what it's coming it's good to see that uh the men in particular we're more or less talking at least about working with each other instead of somebody trying to be cut the road to feed a person who replaces him immediately like that's that would be a horrible look but it's beautiful to see what's currently going on with everybody I appreciate it man yeah definitely we're gonna keep doing the work uh what do you think this means uh for this space you know you've been one of the OGs from like from November I think or December yeah so like basically trenches with me yeah so like what what do you want to see honestly there's really two things I want to see currently I want to see exactly what's been happening right now all love all positivity everyone dropping each other's uh channels and past videos and everything like that and we're promoting each other up that that's beautiful that is the first thing I wanted to see the only other thing after that I want to see this actually get done in in person like no one can replace Kevin Samuels even though we'll have people who will have their own channels and everything but who's going to be that first person male or female to do what Kevin Samuels did but in real world who's going to get that building together and do whatever it is they need to do to give advice to people our community uh funding whatever it is because that's something that we're also missing in our community and once we finally go from the advice the guidance through social media and YouTube and everything to just in person our community has your back that's where we will be finally like just uplifted more or less when we see our youth taking charge as I've commented earlier when we see our youth take charge we'll have better representation and longer representation and that's that's something now I'm really looking forward to seeing we need to set it up to the point where it gets to that where the elders have successful and stable youth who can run the reins of the current masses of the future times I don't know if I made sense when I said that but yeah now we're going to keep it going we're going to keep it going and I know I plan on doing my part and hopefully I can inspire people along the way and you know I offer myself as a resource however I can be so yeah I'm like I said as much as I am humbled, excited sad I'm also terrified so but it means I'm doing the right thing absolutely no need to be terrified man we see what you're doing you're doing good you're a uptrend more or less the love, support and everything like that it's there and it's there for a reason we all recognize the hard work you put in on these videos and everything else man you're doing amazing I appreciate it man thank you so much and your support is invaluable absolutely brother work is invaluable I'm going to keep it going blackmail my brother fell okay how are you man this is international bro you're international man this is international for real I just want to say thank you bro for having me on the conversation it's mad late over here and I was just like moving into all the conversations and all the guys that were talking and all the messages and stuff that they were saying and it really just moved me I said you know what bro no I wanted to share and be part of the conversation and be part of the community and I wanted to say if you don't mind I wanted to say take your time go ahead take your time it's just it's shocking bro it's shocking so it's like I know when you say you're processing I don't even know if I'm processing yet you know what I'm saying but before I even get to that I just want to say bro honestly your work as all the brothers have alluded to earlier when I first saw it I was just outstanding I was just like whoa okay this brother's taking a concept that Kevin has started and moving forward and created a whole new concept around it where he's actually moved the conversation oh leaps and bounds forward and bro you were doing amazing work man it's inspiring so keep doing what you're doing keep having those conversations keep hitting that question bro because we're watching it over here I appreciate it my brother thank you it needs to be shared man because I'm not going to lie when I was growing up I never got that information growing up I'm 41 this year and I haven't had that information growing up and seeing all brothers sharing the information coming into the community and be able to just share your experiences I've had my experiences that I've gone through when I thought it was only me that went through that experience I thought I was going crazy not be able to speak about these certain things and then Kevin comes on the scene and it's like the manuscript was there but then Kevin blowing up during the pandemic it really just made everything we just put spotlight on the whole work that all the brothers had already been doing and then it really just showed exactly Kevin just spoke the words man it's like he was speaking your head speaking the words out when he was having the conversations with different women that were calling into the show and stuff the way he would express our thoughts I'm not saying everybody agreed with him please don't back my head off for anything like that I'm just saying for me he resonated with me a lot of the things that he was saying and his delivery his appearance the black male image the black family just families in general the black or white thing or anything like that but just the whole concept and the mindset behind it it was a breath of fresh air as the brother said before it was a breath of fresh air because I haven't seen that in mainstream media ever in that regard you know outside of your controversial people that we've had over the years like Tommy Sotomayor's and so forth he came with a different spin he came with a different brand he was like your big brother he was like he was like your big brother he was like your uncle to some people I lost my brother last year in January just after the pandemic that was unexpected and I lost another close friend this year in January as well that was unexpected and then to have Kevin it's I don't even know when I heard it I was up late and I was watching the lives and I saw Jessica X put a live on and I saw Melody King have a live on and I was like is this for real and I was going back and forth between the two lives watching the shows and it was like no this can't be real this can't be real and the first thing that came to my head was me playing some fake news maybe Kevin's flown on a plane somewhere and someone's taking the opportunity to like let me just pull a little fast one out and that's what I was thinking at first and then when I saw Melody she had a phone call on the live and she was like hey this is real I just spoke to a family member who's a close family member and this is real and I was just like no way it's like all that wisdom and knowledge that big brotherness that tuning in every Monday Wednesday every night really because Instagram or YouTube tuning in to hear the voice to hear the conversation to see where he's going to go how far he's going to push the line it was I'm going to say we're going to miss a great one and it's funny because the name of our channel is kind of a funny name it's called BlackmailTV it's kind of a black information television and what we speak on our channel is about family and Kevin speaks about family even though people didn't release they kept misnaming him like oh is he an image consultant is he a relationship guru no he's an image consultant but he's also a guy that wants families to come together because families are under attack you know whether it's you know males being under attack you know whether it's females being under attack with delusion or you know whatever it is that it's going on outside it's families that's being under attack and he was trying to point that out and he was trying to say listen the things that we want as individuals the hyper individualism it's not going to get us to what ultimately matters and that's family and that's what we speak on our channel we speak about family all the time me and my wife when we were doing a podcast and I talk on the podcast to men I talk about how to build families how to build yourself up to have a family you know I've got a family you know the things that men have gone through I've gone through that the court system with my first partner you know my elder son going through all that system I resonate with a lot of the men and the stories that they speak about it's not just you know we thought it was happening in one area but to have the mental sphere and in Kevin and in so many men from different parts of the world coming out and saying hey this has happened to me you know and being able to connect with that that just showed it showed that big brotherness it showed that uncle you know the spirit that he had the charisma that he had I don't know it's just I'm just absorbing in and speaking from the heart because it's like it's it's just took my breath away you know just took my breath away I'm sorry I don't want to know it's fine listen listen to everybody in the chat everybody watching this everybody watching the replay if there's one channel that I want you to subscribe to this man's channel the work that you're doing with your wife is phenomenal I think if you guys just turned on the camera and just sat there I think that's working enough I think you represent what communication what actual love the duty of love is and I want to make sure you both are successful especially in these youtube streets I will continue to be a resource however I can but y'all definitely mods put it in the chat y'all definitely if you like me go over there and click that red button please I beg you and absolutely and this what it also speaks to is how international our strife is and how international our community is as well you know at my core I'm a pan-Africanist I want to connect all the dots from the UK to the US to Africa so you represent a big dot my brother and we got to make sure you're successful so anywhere I can help you know I'm a resource my brother nah bro I'm so humble I mean we're a small channel starting out and we're trying to bring that message and it's like listen we need to be a family I did a podcast last year talking about the wealth transfer from the previous generation to our generation to the next generation and the stats the stats are not looking good the stats are not looking good and if we're going to admit and say hey we've had a dino-centric matriarchal you know order that's looked after the community for the last 70 years then that order that leadership hasn't left us anything or our children anything to continue on the community for in fact we're going backwards we're regressing so we're like we took a stand and we're saying well no we're about family we teach LSG principles love plus support equals growth and you apply these principles not the romantic love you know like Disney fairy tale like how you know they promote in the mainstream media but real love actionable principles you know morals principles ethics disciplines honesty integrity accountability loyalty you know brotherhood conscientiousness you know these attributes and principles you build as a man you know you develop yourself as a man as an individual and you link up with other brothers and Kevin promoted that when he talked about networking and you see it you're right you see it with so many people coming out and talking about what he was doing behind the scenes not just you know what we saw on the on the social media and on the o