this is interview. Are you seeking for the courage and the knowledge to make a difference in this country? Today is a program with a difference. I welcome you to this interview. We have special guests put together modern 50 years of experience, working in corrections, community corrections, as well as institutional corrections. My two guests today would include the director of corrections, Mr. Hilary Herman, and a well-known Caribbean's world's social scientist, Dr. Nils Chaitan. Dr. Chaitan will tell you more about himself but I want to let you know that in this country as we look at tackling crime, there's one thing that we must do. If there's one that should unite us, we have one common enemy and in our diversity we need to unite. I welcome you to interview and now I turn to the gifted Dr. Nils Chaitan. Dr. Nils Chaitan, welcome to solution. Thank you very much Mr. Smith. It's my pleasure to be here. You know, we're all part of the Windward Islands. I was born in Grenada of course, the spice island of the world folks and I bring that spice with me by the way. However, I grew up much of my adult life in Toronto, Canada for last 39 years. Met the love of my life there by the way and she's part of what I do. We are social interventionists and we are crime reduction specialists. What we do is to create a systematic method of dealing with crime. You know, most of the time and I have with me, you know, sitting right by me here, the director of corrections and we sometimes think well crime has to be the way we deal with it. Let's lock them up, let's take them to court, let's put them away, right? Not many people look at the underlying roots of crime. That's a very good thought. We'll come to that in a minute. Mr. Homan, just before Dr. Chaitan tell us about his background, just think of yours as well that you want to share with us. But Dr. Chaitan, tell us a little more about your professional background, your training. I know you are social scientist. What does that mean? Well the truth about I have a PhD in social and behavioral sciences. So it's a wide spectrum, by the way. We are socially behavioral, that's almost everything between the that is a crime, that's social dysfunctions, with addictions at every level. However, my company is called Motivate for Change International. Sounds good. Right? It's also Toronto, they had quoted in Toronto and right now we were in a Saturday office in St. George's, Grenada, so we could respond to the Caribbean. Three years ago, we were asked by the government of St. Kitsunevious, they had a very, very high spiking in homicide. As a matter of fact, they had the highest homicide rate in the world, of course, per capita, per capita. And so we are called in there to do what we can to engage a framework, right? An overarching framework because Mrs. Smith, the Caribbean has wonderful, brilliant people. And I do not come to the Caribbean believing that I'm the answer. On that note, hold that thought. Mr. Herman, you and one time yourself as the president of the Prison Association in the Caribbean, before you tell us more about it, tell us a little more about yourself presently and who you are and tell us what we need to remember about Mr. Hilary Herman. Well, thanks for having me, Mr. Smith. Of course, my name is Hilary Herman. I'm the director of corrections of the bodily correctional facility. I returned home to St. Lucia in 2002 to open the newly commissioned prison, the bodily correctional facility. I am a soldier at heart. I was retired from the United States Army after 27 years of service. Corrections has been my life over the last 30 years. As you know, corrections is a science and it works every time it's tried in all the right forms. We've attempted to do this in St. Lucia. However, we've had many restrictions, as you know, most of it has been financial. We bodily has not met half of its peak performance. It just has not gotten there. There is so much more that can be done. In spite of that, we've had some very good success stories and we're hoping that that can continue. Okay, wonderful. Now, we have met this handsome gentleman. Yes. Everybody has fell in love with him. You know what I mean, right? Yes. What do you think about Dr. Chaitan and what he brings to the table? Dr. Chaitan, over the last six days, I mean, he's an amazing guy. He has brought some very, very positive initiative to us and I think if we can just capture some of what he has suggested or some of what his own experiences has given him to apply it here in St. Lucia, I think we can reduce the crime rate. Yes. Dr. Chaitan, you, besides Mr. Hroman, you met other persons in St. Lucia. Dr. Alfred, Dr. King, well, I happened to get to know you and of course, you and I go way back in terms of conversation. What do you think about our professionals, Mr. Hroman, those that you have encountered and what do you think our educational equity offers in regards to cooperating and collaborating with you? Okay, first of all, I must say I met some powerful people here. And you know what, listening to the resumes and CVs is one thing. 30 years is great, 27 years in the US Army is great, but meeting the person and I'm sure it's almost the same year, you know, it's a reciprocal year because you might have seen my CV, and we spoke so many times on the WhatsApp, but meeting the person and hearing the person. And I think more than anything else, last night in our consultation, Dr. King is a guy I met and I liked quite a bit, right? And to hear Dr. King give his own personal story, how this thing appeals to him and what it causes him, how it affects his emotions, and not only that, his life moving forward.  While you're on that, you also had the privilege and the opportunity of meeting the Prime Minister. I did. Our Prime Minister is very passionate about crime reduction. What was the experience coming from Grenada, Canada, and you know, you have met many Prime Ministers as well. What stands out for you? First of all, the Honourable Prime Minister, the Satan is a cool guy. He's a cool guy, right? Very warm, very warm. In our meeting, I was sitting in one chair away from him. I felt very relaxed. He appeared to be someone who was very accommodating.  This gentleman sat down. This gentleman looked me in the eye. As I spoke to him, I showed him a process. Of course, I introduced to him our stop and think concept. And you're getting to that in a while. And he left there with his hand filled, right? Now, of course, he also spoke about some of the, some of the deterrents or some of the challenges that would make what we bring possible. But I said to him, Mr. Prime Minister, if there is a need, we, once there is a need, it's going to happen. Wonderful. Wonderful. Well, about this time, we'll get ready to take a break. But just before I leave, I want to let you know that this past weekend, we had a few programs. We'll ponder on it. As well as we have some discussions on some plans going forward. We'll look at it. But before we look at this, we look at the root causes of crime. Somebody's wondering why is crime continuing to escalate? Why we cannot get a hold on crime? And then you will give your impressions and then we'll take it from there. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned. Mr. Chaitan, Dr. Chaitan and Mr. Hooman, many people start and they stop. I have to understand the difference between being interested and being committed. When you're interested in any topic, any subject, it takes a lot of your thinking, perhaps, and your emotions to get involved. But not until you take action, you're not committed. You're not committed. You can do all the talk, have the right words. But we have taken action over the weekend. That's gone. And we had the opportunity and I'm a very action-oriented individual. For me, it's a good thing to have conversation, but I'm more practical. Let us just reflect on what took place over the weekend. You had the great opportunity of going to the prison and to participate in power ground worship, power ground sports, right? Mr. Hooman, you had front row seat, if I may add. You actually saw what took place. Considering what you saw, what you heard, is there any value that you think that was added? Or how should we continue to engage inmates even when they are incarcerated? The truth about it is that in casters in someone and just leaving them on their own, it's punitive, but it's also detrimental to the person's health. Whether it's the psychosocial health or even the physical health. People that, and I said this morning, people that we put in cuffs, we restrain, that's the middle word, is because somebody was not able to restrain them before. We had parents talking to them, teachers talking to them, trying to restrain them, but human beings don't like the freedom to be taken away, whatever they perceive that to be. So once rules and laws cut your freedom, that's what we proceed, right? So they don't want to stop until they're forced to stop. Now when they're forced to stop, because we are trying to get through to them, son, sit down and let me talk to you. Student, come and ask them to talk to you, and they see all these things as negative.  Now what do we have? A captive audience. We couldn't talk to them before. So what the correction facility needs is a strong social rehabilitative peace, right? That will get to the heart of these people. But not only that, because sometimes, Mr. Herman, as professionals, what we bring is the theories that we study. Look at what we did this weekend. We shared the life of two creatures, right? A bird and a caterpillar. And look at how they got the message. Look how they got the message. They applied it, right? When I got them back to Sunday, they were hugging me. Why? They don't know me, but we got into the heart. And so every time we incarcerate, we need to have a hard-gripping component of social change, rehabilitation, that will work along. Otherwise, we're exporting back to the community as criminals. And I'm sure you have in your full set kit of social medicine, you do have some prescriptions whether it's stop and think, or whether it's either a program, or whether it's the making and the breaking of a criminal, and that which perhaps I can't remember now, you'll tell us a little more about that. But Mr. Herman, how important it is for the community to join you whilst the individuals, whilst we have the young men or the ladies in prison? How important it is to be part of that, is it? The reintegration piece, which is a missing link in our bodily correctional facility there, that doesn't exist. And where it shows itself is when we have 47 individuals returning to the facility between March 26th and July 30th, with 47 individuals returning to our facility, which means that they've been to bodily at least twice. Okay. So in not preparing them for the world outside, there's no support system that helps them, there's no guidance, chances are the cycle continues. And that's where your organization, such as back on track, can be very instrumental in assisting these inmates in reintegrating back into our society. Okay. Normalization, there's a way to deprisionize anyone. First of all is to have the person thinking outside and bringing the outside on the inside, so that the individual can feel part of society. In your training and experience, what are the best activities in your mind, Dr. Chaitan, that will be suited to help inmates in having an appreciation of being incarcerated because most guys are angry with themselves that they got caught. Right? So how do you get them to understand that they must accept that there is punishment and there are principles, but whilst they embrace that, they must look outside. What process? Yeah. Well, and I think I really, I really demonstrated it with that of the caterpillar. Right. That of the caterpillar. What is the caterpillar doing? The caterpillar is not yet a butterfly. It's in the maturing stage. So when you see the caterpillar is destructive, it's a menace to society. You know he's growing. He's not there. But what we do, we treat people that are still maturing as if that's a final product. Right, right, right. Now these people would not go in a position to whether we would get what we want to give in part to them so they could mature, we're wronged. So sometimes the cell becomes a cocoon. Yes. Right.  Okay. Because you will be stopped. One year. Stop and think while you're outside. Right.   Right? Or whatever it is, disrespect you. You could do two things. You could go for it, right, because you're not stopping and thinking about what your consequence is. Or you could stop yourself and walk away.  We will stop you. Right, right. And then now you go in there. It's a time when you're going to sit down and say, oh my God, how did I end up here? Right, how did I end up here? Now, hopefully that the cell is not going to be not just punitive, but it'll be empowering. Right? Just like the caterpillar stays inside there and when it breaks out, what is he? A beautiful butterfly. A changed person. Right. Now let's move away from being descriptive. Let's look into a prescriptive approach. And we're looking now, we're opening now your first aid social scientist. Come on. What is really the routes of crime that you really want to speak about? I know there are about 12 of them in there. So give us a sense as to what they can see. Okay. I'm going to make this, I wouldn't go into the 12 routes of crime. That's too clinical for me. That's going to take the rest of the evening. We don't have time for that, right? However, one of the things that drive crime is our ability, our inability to control our impulse. Okay.  It works. Right. We know what we should do. Right. But our impulses drive us, our triggers I just say drive us. Right? So what I have done in my toolkit, you asked me and I have a chair with me. Okay. You know, you've seen it over and over, right? There is the poster, right? It's simple, Mr. Smith. It's simple. And people think that could not be the answer. Trust me, this is the answer. Okay. Well, talk to our audience. This is the folks out there. This is the answer not to just commit a crime. Why call a crime? Crimes in the boardroom. Crimes committed by the boss. You see, sometimes we would have done well and succeeded in life. But if, and when we reach a certain height, we plateau out and we think we're in our comfort zone, that point in time, we're not thinking too much because I've reached there. That's the time we're most vulnerable. Right? So what, what do I say? Always. Notice what I said, Mr. Smith. He didn't say sometimes because the time you didn't stop and think, you may have to pay. Right. Always stop and think before you proceed. Now, this simple concept as simple as it seems, right? We go through the rudiments of it. We've created a psychological past mechanism, right? So when you're tempted, when your impulse is driving, when your heart is going because somebody's in your face, think about your plans, man.  Think about that you're doing CXC's or think about that you have on, if you don't think about your plans, think about where you're going or your loved ones. Or your loved ones. Or your loved ones.  That's correct. That's correct.   Your mother, right? Think about it and say, boy, you know what? Let me walk away from that. No, saying it is easy, boy, this thing is hard to do. This thing is so hard to do, but that's why we come with Project Stopper thing. Interesting, Lucia. We want to, so we want to give it to your, your inmates so much, right? So they understand that they have the power to decide differently, right? And so it doesn't just come with this. It comes with a manual. Parents, parents and teachers, you come with a manual. Good. We will leave that in the, in the, in the prisons. And they could go through it, concerts, go through it and help them master the technique. Because trust me, saying it is easy. Right. Doing it is difficult. Yes. Before you tell us about the making and the breaking of a criminal, Mr. Herman, there are many programs that one could get off the net and there are many things that one could look at in terms of managing an institution. What can you say besides CXC certificates, among other things? What, if you had the power and you had the resources, would you embrace what Dr. Chaitan is advancing or what, what would you like to see happen going forward? Absolutely. What Dr. Chaitan is talking about, I mean, it is a program that can be very successful in our institution. Okay. One of our restrictions or our needs is the, is assessment of inmates. Okay. That right now, we do not have. And that's a barrier. Right. We need to assess the inmates and psychologists, we need that desperately. Right. And until that is done, we don't have a true picture. Okay. Of what the sentence management should be like. Okay. The inmates should be assessed at day one. And from the very day he comes into our institution, his sentence should be managed. Right. Right. Until the day he leaves. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And that is a missing link. And on that note, diagnosing a situation, right, the EDA program, right, what comments do you have based upon what Mr. Herman is saying? Okay. How are you going to diagnose? Well, first of all, I want to applaud what you're saying, because clinical psychology is important there. Absolutely. Because if we come into run programs there, you want to know, you want to know how it's affecting, how it's impacting the lives of criminals. So that when they have a hearing, you could actually say, you could write a report, for example, and say, well, that's where they were. And that's where they are. Right. Now with the EDA, the EDA brings, it's a framework. Right. Right. And as I said, we meet all these brilliant people here in St. Lucia. But the EDA gives, it gives an overarching framework. Like I said, like I said on the first day we came in, it's like a filing cabinet with four drawers so that we could put all the special interests together so that we are not ricocheting, bullets ricocheting all over the place. Right. Now the D, it's important to diagnose. Right. It's important because we are treating, couldn't you imagine, Mr. Smith, going to a doctor, saying, doc, my belly is hurting me. Right.  You know what I mean?    So it's important to diagnose this, but it's very important. And so what we do, what we do in the diagnosis is that we bring stakeholders together. People from that, that are professionals in the line, teachers, clergy, law enforcement, you say Tutmude? Tutmude. Wow. Wow, I got my past word for it. Tutmude, right? You bring them together and then we look at what, at some of the generic roots of Kremlin valets. Right. So for example, law enforcement would say, you know, Dr. Chattanoff is 12 roots that you've shown us here. This one is ours. This one is germane to us. Right. Then we'll build a strategy for it. So that strategy now is being used by all the professions within that interest group. Yes. You see what I'm saying? And I think one of the problems that we face is that we are not enforcing because it most of the time is a talk shop and not a workshop. Right, right. And people don't want to walk the talk. Right. So then we have someone who implements it and holds a fit to the fire and say, Mr. Herman, you said you were going to do that for the prisoners. It's three months. What have you done? Right. Okay. All right. Wonderful. Wow. Time is so interesting, but we have to consider time. You indicated that we have to diagnose the situation and offer prescription. In the interest of time, what would you say should be the starting point in understanding the men in our society, in appreciating what's happening to them? We know that there are certain neurological and scientific suggestions or proposals about what takes place. Since most of your clients, Mr. Herman, are men. Let's start. What's the ABC of handling a man? We know in advertisement, we know in advertisement, you know, to handle a man, you must have a nice coca-cola shaped lady and all kinds of things. Apart from something muscular. But you're asking a loaded question. What's the ABC in handling a man? We have just about five minutes. The point I'm making is that look, our men, right now, we are at the lowest with male in male life, really. Okay. We look at schools who get most suspended, guys, right? And where does it start in the home most of the time? So we have to start to answer that question. We have to go to the root cause. Mama, were you an accidental parent or was that boy planned? Right? If the boy was accidental, there's a very good chance he wouldn't have a father, he wouldn't have a mentor in his life to mentor, to make him a man. And by the way, let me say hi to all the strong St. Lucian women who have raised good men. But because they're successful men, it doesn't mean that they are well wronged men. To get a well wronged man, you need the female touch and you need the male mentor and the male touch also, right? And when you look at it, there are so many homes without a male figure in it, right? So we are raised by women. Then we go to schools. This is 76% of OECS teachers are females, right? In Grenada, we got 23 high schools. And I cannot call them a four men that are principals. In my tongue in Grenada, where I work right now, the male stretch is female. So do you see what's happening there? Yes, was beyond that. Just give Mr. Herman a perspective as to what's taking place in the mind when a man is under stress. We talk about the certain homes, how they are released. Because Mr. Herman, as much as you would like to avoid many things like smoking in the prison, alcohol, etc. What is happening? Okay, what happened? The man is under stress, whatever the stress is, always in pain, right? Emotional pain. Now, he needs a release. This boy is not doing well in high school. His mother is on his case, his teacher on his case, everybody on his case, right? So he fails. He falls through the crack. He's on the streets. He's on the streets. When they think about it, wow, what am I mother going to say? My father, if there's a father, I slap him in my head and say, boy, go and do better, right? The boy is under stress. So what the boy needs is some form of medication, some form of medication to make him feel better. Gentlemen and ladies, I'm telling you that marijuana will do it. Drugs will do it, but is it right? Is it, is it wholesome and healthy for you? That's another question. Because when you smoke, smoke, you get what's called a euphoria or a high. Okay.   But guess what? When the high goes down, the problem is bigger. Dr. Triton, you will not believe it, but time has. Oh no. Doc, when you come back, tell us a little more about that. We'll come back here and we'll continue the conversation. We definitely will. So your intention is to come back to Senrush and continue to inspire and inform so that we can get involved. Am I correct? Well, my brother, they asked me to come back. The community is asking me. Okay. And once the grassroot calls, I'll respond. Wonderful. Well, Mr. Herman, we had Dr. Triton just for half an hour. Yes. I find that it's very clear, it's full of passion, full of information, and I'm quite sure that we are looking forward to meet Dr. Triton when he returns. Any closing remarks from you, Mr. Herman? Closing remarks other than the missing link at our facility. Okay. And your role, your organization's role in making sure, in filling that gap. We've been unable to fill that gap for many years. Right. And that has contributed to a high recidivism rate. And I look forward to working with you. And Dr. Triton has adopted me. My closing remark is a commitment to you, sir. That's one. Once my feet is on the hella of the West, you got me. Wonderful. Thank you. Well, Doc, let's hear your closing remarks. Thank you. What do you say? Well, Senrush, listen, listen. I know you're going through this scourge of crime. I ask you to be patient.  Are boys in pain? I know we don't want to be empathetic towards that. And I know there's a time for enforcement. There's a time to disarm them. Right. But when we disarm them, what do we do? Do we just hurl them into a cell like an animal? Or do we try to save them? My mantra has been, sir, turn in menaces into mentors. Wonderful. And ladies and gentlemen, we need to be more secure in our country, you might say. We need to understand that it takes more to keep somebody in prison than to send them to university. You just count. Just look at $40 a meal or $50 a meal and multiply that by 40 days. We pass $1,000 just for the meals. And Mr. Human would tell you to pay the staff. The money's not enough. So it has been proven that keeping somebody incarcerated costs more than sending somebody to university. Now, for us to pay so much money, if the cost of low living is much higher than the cost of high living, then what shall we do? So in our country, we have no choice. We can't run away. This is where we were born. This is what we know. So we cannot turn the other side. If there is a young man that is given trouble, you have a son that is given problems, you have your husband that's you need some help, ask for help. The only way I know, the only formula that I have to get what you want is to ask for it. This is what the Bible says, ask and shall receive. Seek and you shall find. Knock and the door shall be opened to you. It's not too late. There is hope. Thanks for viewing and God bless.


Hello everyone, my name is Ross Morrison McGill. You can find me on Twitter at Teacher Toolkit. This is a simple video blog to explain the online learn session that I'll be leading at McGill University as part of their Distinguished Educator seminar series that I will be leading in February in 2015. The session that I'll be looking at is just five simple time-saving techniques for teachers looking at things like lesson planning, marking and homework. In the meantime, you can find more about me and some of the ideas on my blog by visitingteachertoolkit.me. I look forward to meeting you very soon. Bye for now.


Now, providing a place for anyone in the community to enjoy ice fishing, that's what a club in Park Rapids did. And as our Josh Peterson shares with us in this week's community spotlight, the community has been taking full advantage of this opportunity. Without some of the key tools, ice fishing could be difficult for a person wanting to try the winter sport. Providing not only the tools, but also a luxury experience is what the Park Rapids chapter of the Minnesota Dark House and Anglers Association set out to do. I don't think there's hardly a day goes by when there's no person using it. The community fish house is managed by its club members, and each week a different member takes a turn checking on the fish house each day and making sure it's ready for its next guest. Basically what we're looking for in the morning, we go out make sure the heater is running, holes are open, rods and everything is there and in order. The house is outfitted with gear for fishing enthusiasts of all types. The gear includes fishing rods and reels, rattle wheels, tackle and an underwater camera and depth finder. We furnish everything but bait. The rods and reels are out there, everything else is furnished. For nine years the Park Rapids community fish house has provided fishing enjoyment for anglers of all ages, but it's not just the anglers that are getting the most out of the experience. Well it's just helping people out, it's people that don't get a chance to fish in the winter time. That's the biggest thing. Providing this winter experience can be extremely expensive with just the cost of insurance and propane alone. That is why fundraising is done year round and advertisements are sold that cover the community fish house. We ask for donations and those donations pretty well pay for the propane is the biggest cost and then there's also insurance on the fish house that we have fundraisers for. The community fish house has proven itself to be extremely popular. If you want to sign up for a time slot to use the facility you will need to plan ahead. Right now it's probably filled up for three weeks ahead of right now. The community fish house is located near the access on Fish Hook Lake. To make reservations you can stop in or contact Delaney Sports Center. With this week's community spotlight in Park Rapids, Josh Peterson, Lakeland News. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News, please consider making a tax deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


Good day my fellow friends and patriots, brothers and sisters. Friends of all shapes and sizes. You there. Hi, how's it going? We're here delivering in Surrey, British Columbia. I got this glass here. It's another on time safe delivery. Nice record, Josh. Didn't even break one of them. Never have either. I don't see him. I just got the tarps off him. I don't see, you don't want to see him.  Let's just see what he's doing there, I think. And there we go. Tarps are off, all put away, all nice and neat and pretty. This came all the way from Minnesota to the west coast of Canada. Three days of driving, 3,000 kilometers. 2,000 miles. It was 600 miles a day to get here. Went over two mountain ranges, across the plains and prairies, across half the continent. You need the job done, you need it done. So now we've got to wait around here. I think it's graffiti someone put on that wall there. That's just disrespectful. So I'm filming this on a Friday. And we're going to be here over the weekend because this truck is, like I was telling you the last couple of days on the way here, it's going into the shop today at 4.30 p.m. Now I'm not sure how long their shop is open, but if I'm going into the shop at 4.30 p.m. on a Friday, I have this funny suspicious sneaky feeling that I'm going to be here till Monday or Tuesday. So what they're doing is they're replacing my air dryer. Air dryer's pretty much shot, it's on its way out. Needs to be replaced. Apparently it's like a $100 or $200 part and plus about an hour of labor to put it in. That's no big deal. But then I need them to diagnose why my engine light came on.  It's just a sensor. Oh, look at that, it's just a sensor again. Or it's just a power line or a wire or something. So I'm not really too concerned about it. The truck has been running great. I'm assuming it'll just be a wire again. Let's hope, knock on wood, cross your fingers, cross your toes, whatever you got to do. By the time you watch this, I will have already known, because it takes me a couple of days, few days, about a week to get these videos out to you so I'll already know the answer. So I would ask for your hopes and prayers, but it'll be a little late by the time you watch. Thank you anyway, I appreciate it. Maybe you were gonna say that in the comments. So hopefully it's nothing too big. It's gonna be in there a couple of days. Maybe they can get it all done today. I don't know. I don't know how long they're open. We're going to Volvo in Langley, British Columbia, which is like down the road from here, around the corner. What's it called? What's it called? Where are you? I'm just looking at my Googles. One second here, bear with me. I know you're here somewhere. Oh here it is. Pacific Coast Truck Group, Mac Volvo. Let's see if they have their hours of operation on the Googles. Oh, they're open till midnight. 7 a.m. to midnight, now that is convenient. Wow, okay, so apparently we might get the truck back today yet. I think I'm still gonna get a motel for tonight though. It's cheap on like a Motel 6 or something. Somewhere that's kind of friendly for diesel line. Stretch our legs out a little bit. I gotta do some laundry. We'll see. I don't want to get a motel if my bills are gonna be over a thousand bucks. As you know, it's gonna be, let's say, minimum 100 bucks, let's say 150 bucks for the air dryer, okay? Let's round it up to 200 just to be safe. Might even be more than that, but that's what they quoted me. They quoted me 100, so double that. 200 plus an hour of labor, which is like 150 bucks. 150 bucks an hour for labor. Have I told you? But what I think is ridiculous yet? $150 an hour for labor. So we're at $350 right there already. That's just the primary thing I want to bring this thing in for. I could replace it myself. This is whatever, whatever. I could figure it out, but I don't know, whatever. I gotta bring it in there anyways because they gotta diagnose my engine light, right? Just to diagnose it, I bet ya.  Just to plug their computer in and go, beep, oh look at that, it's a sensor. They gotta go and replace the sensor, which is probably gonna be overpriced because it's probably made somewhere in Europe and shipped over here because it's a Volvo. So my dad, he is leaving Edmonton, Alberta on his way home. Cool, I am not, I am staying here for the weekend. But I decided to fix the truck here because the weather here is nice. It's the best climate in Canada. It rarely ever snows here. So that's why I figured, oh, if I'm gonna spend a weekend anyways, let's get away from the cold. Stay in BC, Vancouver area for a bit, right? So we'll see, we're doing math here, okay? Stay with me, math, I'm a trucker. We do a lot of math. So $350 just for the air dryer situation. Another $100 to diagnose this, it should be under $1,000 if there's nothing big wrong. But if it's over $1,000, I don't wanna get a motel. But if it's under $1,000, maybe I'll get a motel. I think it's pretty safe that I should probably get a motel. It's only like 70 bucks a night. I don't go to the expensive motels. I just go to the budget motels. As long as they're pet friendly, there's no bedbugs and they have beds and a TV. If you don't got a TV, don't even bother calling me. If I'm gonna pay to spend the night somewhere, you better have a TV for me. This is pretty much the only time I'll get to watch TV. I don't watch TV at home. I go way too much to do at home. I don't watch TV on the road because I go way too much to do on the road. So when I get a motel, that's like special, very special me time. I've got a date with the TV. All right lads. So they make this Volvo dealership on... A protein destination of 300 meters on the right side. On a road that is not designed for trucks. Why do you have a truck dealership on a road that's not designed for trucks? I remember this from the last time I came here already. It's up here on the right. So I got an empty flatbed behind me. Oh yeah, gotta take the curb. That curb's mine. Nothing I can do about it. They put this dealership in the back of the one there on the road here. Hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. Here it is on the right, Volvo. And I gotta park my trailer in this lot to the left here. Hopefully it's not too full. Then I'm getting a hotel for the night. I've already reserved one. Staying at the Sandman Inn. You have arrived at your destination on the right side, 9758 203 Street. Okay, they said leave your trailer at the far west end of the parking lot. I'm guessing that's beside that reefer. Why is this guy dropping his trailer right in the middle here? Everybody get out of the way. Shrek and Josh is maneuvering around and I don't want to hurt anybody. Yeah, I'm gonna go back in right beside that reefer there. This should be fun. No, I'm not gonna make it. This guy is, you're blocking everything, man. Well, I've dropped off the trailer in their yard there. So I wanted to talk to them. So first I've gotta go check into the hotel. Can't get all my stuff in there. And then I'm gonna come back here, drop the truck off with them, check in and everything. I still have three hours to my appointment time. And then leave the truck there with them. Then me and Deez are gonna walk back to the hotel.  But a mile and a half, it'll take us half an hour to walk. So I'll get everything into the hotel now and then we won't have anything with us to walk later. It'd be easy. It's a nice day out. Just gonna go there. Hopefully they'll let us check in early. Because apparently the check-in time is 4 p.m. Isn't check-in usually earlier than that? Maybe not. Let's see if I can check in a little earlier. It's only 1.30 p.m. now. If not, then we just gotta wait around for a couple of hours. Either way, it's gonna be a good weekend, I think. Oh, fun. We'll make it fun. Whoa, calm down there, Mr. Dodge Neon. Whoo! Don't hurt yourself there. All that power. There's a weasel in this hotel room. This is it. We're here. Truck is in the shop. The parts are a little more expensive than I thought. Just like I told you, we always gotta add some on top of it. I should have added a bit more. I should know better by now. I've been driving trucks since 2006. Been doing this for a while and I should know parts are always more than this. It's always gonna be way more expensive. If they quote you X amount of dollars, just times it by like 10 and assume that's the price. I'm not even exaggerating that much. It's just a little bit. So the part of the $100 for the air dryer wasn't actually for the air dryer. It's just for the cartridge for the air dryer. Duh, I should have known that. I want them to replace the whole thing. That's $400. So we don't know exactly which parts in there are broken. So he says we could do trial and error and replace them. All of the three different valves in there that could be replaced. But by the end of it, we're looking at like $300 to replace all that. And if that still doesn't fix the problem, if it's something else on the air dryer, then I've got to buy the air dryer anyways and now I'm spending like $700 instead of just $400. So I played it safe and just give me the $400 air dryer. It's an hour labor to install. So it'd be like 500 bucks just for the air dryer. Apparently it's two hours to diagnose my engine light, which is probably gonna be another like $200, $300, just to diagnose, two hours to diagnose. Don't you have computers? You just plug it in and it tells you what's wrong. Maybe that's two hours to diagnose it and fix it. That would make sense. That's what they allot for it. And we'll see what happens. I mean, they're gonna start working on it in about a half hour now. We just walked his a half hour walk to the Sandman Hotel from the Volvo dealership, the Volvo service shop. We just checked in and they're gonna call us tonight yet with a quote, if it's $500 just for the air dryer, I'm gonna go ahead and probably think it's gonna be between $1,000 and $1,500 if there's nothing big that they're gonna find. I think if it's just the sensors, it's just a wire or a connection, it'll be cheap. But then it'll be around $1,000. But this is just a minor repair too. Like an air dryer isn't that hard to replace. I could do it myself. If I had the proper shop, proper tools, I could even do it out in the parking lot if I wanted to myself. I just, I don't have the right tools with me and right now I just, I can't. I can't do it here. So next time maybe I'll buy the tools and just do it myself. I've never actually done it myself and so I don't really wanna mess it up. So I'd rather learn how to do it like with my dad when I go home because he's got like 30, 40 years experience on me and he knows how to fix everything. You know if the sun stops shining he would know how to fix it and he would go fix the sun for everybody. He's the fixed man. But I'm building a shop on our property in the next few years and then my dad's gonna hopefully be able to pass on all the knowledge he has because I wanna be able to pass it on to my kids one day. You know when we have a boy or a girl I wanna pass on the knowledge that my dad has of fixing absolutely everything. I wanna be able to do that and pass that on to my kids because that's valuable. So we'll see. For now they're gonna do it and it'll be about a thousand bucks. Yeah, that's Canadian. So let's say about $800 American equals a thousand dollars Canadian. I'm just estimating. So all in all, but around the thousand dollar mark either in Canadian dollars or American dollars. Somewhere in there about a thousand dollars. So let's show you the joint shall we? This is where we're calling home for the next couple of days. Next couple of nights. Tonight and tomorrow night. Nice long entryway hallway that you can saunter down to your runway walk. It comes with a weasel pre-installed on the bathroom floor. I guess it's cooler there. And this here's the room from this angle. Come in from over there, the bathroom's there. I expected a little bit more room in here. I really did. For the price I paid, I expected a little bit more but we are in British Columbia and everything here is marked up for the sake of being in British Columbia. Like look at the weather outside here. Look at this. I wanna see this, check this out. It's February in Canada. There's leaves on the trees. On the walk here, I didn't have this camera with me. I had it charging in the room here. I promise you, maybe we'll show you tomorrow if we go for a walk. There was a house in Canada here with a palm tree in the front yard, a real one. I stopped and stared. I did, they had fake grass though. That was weird.  Okay, California wanna be. Like, I know you're on the West Coast but real grass grows here, you know? It's not a desert. So weird, it was like really obvious fake grass. It was like bright green. That was weird, but they had a palm tree. So that made up for it. Yeah, everything here is still green. Now, there's no grass to show you here but there's green grass everywhere. It's a beautiful temperature outside. It's about 12 degrees Celsius right now in February in Canada. So this is the warmest part of Canada. And this is, this is where we're gonna call it a day.  What is this version? Your version of Windows 10 is nearing the end of service. Of course it is. Restart and install the most recent version of Windows to get the latest security updates and support. Really? Remind me later. That sounds boring. What doesn't sound boring? We're gonna do some farming. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, here we go. Oh, it's nighttime again. It's always nighttime. How's my farm doing here? Look, not bad, I didn't get that glare out of there. Not bad, it's always nighttime when we watch some TV and that's, this is gonna be what I'm doing. So I'll leave the vlog here. Thanks for joining me today. Join me tomorrow for more of this. We're gonna be in this hotel room but tomorrow I do gotta go pick the truck up. They're supposed to be done sometime in the afternoon or something during the day, hopefully.  That's right, so we will be going past that house with the palm tree. I'm gonna take you with me, I'm gonna prove to you there is a real palm tree in Canada and fake grass. Tune in tomorrow to find out what it looks like.


Hi and welcome to What's That Cloud? The dangers of diesel exhaust fumes for business. Brian and I are occupational hygienists. Occupational hygienists help companies understand risks to health at work and how to improve working conditions and working practices. We use science and engineering to prevent illness and disease in places where people work. We do this by understanding contaminants, hazards and processes that may affect the health of a worker. We then help both employers and workers to prevent exposure to the contaminants by controlling the exposure. This could be by removing the contaminant away from the workers, substituting it with a lesser harmful substance, using ventilation or by containing it to reduce exposure to name a few methods. In some cases, exposure can also be controlled by using personal protective equipment or PPE. Occupational hygienists get involved in making sure that it is the right PPE for the job and to make sure that it fits and is used properly. We might need to test the work environment to understand how much of a contaminant is present and if it is likely to be enough to cause ill health to workers. Today we are going to talk you through how you understand if you may have a diesel-exhaust hazard in your workplace, how you can evaluate the risk of exposure, including when and how you might go about sampling it, when it can start to become a major problem and how you can reduce the risk of exposure to diesel-exhaust in the workplace. Exposure to diesel-exhaust fumes can cause both acute or immediate effects and chronic or long-term effects. Long-term health effects doesn't mean you will be sick with the disease for a long time.  Humans often forget about or dismiss long-term health effects because we are so busy living for now. This is one of the reasons that reducing exposure is very important. So that's what the webinar is about and why we are talking to you, but you should also know who we are. My name is Jen Himes. I have been working as an occupational hygienist for about 15 years and during that time have developed an interest in measuring and controlling diesel-engine exhaust. I have worked with a large underground mining operation as well as small to medium-sized businesses to assist in assessing and reducing exposure to their workers. I'm Brian Davies and I'm also an occupational hygienist. I have worked in the steel, mining, aviation and education industries over my career and have been involved with the issue of diesel emissions since the mid-1970s. In fact, I undertook a PhD in the control of diesel particulate in underground coal mines and many of the findings on that research can be equally applied to any workplace. Okay, so now let's move on to what is in diesel engine exhaust and its associated hazards. We will provide you with information about diesel emissions and how you can protect your workers and business. Firstly, let's take a look at what diesel engine exhaust is. What is in that cloud that should concern us? Diesel exhaust is a complex mix. It is made up of gases and small particles. A gaseous phase is generally made up of the same gases as found in air as well as a few other not-so-desirable gases. The gases include nitrogen dioxide, nitric oxide, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, other irritant gases and water vapor. Several of these gases, such as carbon monoxide and nitrogen dioxide, present serious health risk to workers at relatively low concentrations if not controlled in the workplace. The small particles or particular phase of diesel exhaust has a very small carbon core surrounded by tiny droplets of organic compounds and this is what is known as diesel particulate matter or DPM. Both the DPM and the gases in diesel exhaust are cause for concern and we will discuss this more fully in a few minutes. So firstly, we need to determine if diesel exhaust may be a health risk in your business. We do this like you do any other risk assessment. You need to identify the hazard, assess the risk, control the exposure and then review and ensure your controls are effective. So the first part of this, identifying the hazard. Starting simple, do you have diesel powered machinery in your workplace? Big, little, a couple of engines, lots of engines? Do you walk into your workplace and notice a smoky haze of fumes accumulating in enclosed or closed in areas that don't get a lot of ventilation or maybe the roller doors are shut during winter because it's cold and that's when you see the fume. A house or warehouse, underground car park, diesel workshop. Do you notice any sooty deposits on walls or permanent fixtures?  Do you only notice it first thing in the morning? Is it intermittent or they're all off the time? Do you find yourself coughing more at work than when you are away from work? Do your eyes water or become itchy when diesel machinery is operating? If yes to any of these things then it is a good idea to continue listening in on this webinar as it is most probably applicable to you, your workplace or business. If you're still not certain who may be exposed to diesel exhaust, here are a few of the more common small to medium businesses we find may have diesel exhaust exposure. Diesel workshops or vehicle repair facilities, tunneling projects, warehouses, underground mines, coal or metaliferous, surface mines, railways, bulk handling storage areas where forklifts or trucks are operating, trucking companies, ships holes, construction, cars, car parks, farms. There are plenty of others and I'm sure there are people screaming at their computer screens right now trying to get me to hear other industries that they know or work in where is exposure to diesel emissions. Another good question is why are we actually interested in this anyway? Who cares if there is a bit of diesel fume around? It's been there for years. We've always worked this way. My dad worked this way and there's nothing wrong with him. These are all familiar things we hear in workplaces but in June 2012 diesel exhaust was confirmed as a group 1 carcinogen which means it definitely has the ability to cause cancer in people.  It is also very irritating causing workers eyes to water and coughing. If it is bad enough there are additional safety issues through reduced visibility. If it is going to cause cancer it's likely to have a long latency period which means it may take 10 to 30 years until health issues show up. Okay so now you know that you do or perhaps don't have diesel exhaust within your workplace and that it's pretty nasty stuff and so you would like to find out if you have a problem. So how do you do this? There are a couple of things you can do here. We'll start with the simple stuff first. If you have diesel powered equipment inside a building or enclosed area without any forced ventilation then you shouldn't waste your time sampling it. You must probably have a problem so start to focus your efforts in replacing it with electric equipment or look at whether you can move it outside. Sounds obvious but we see things like generators being used in basements rather than using extension leads and moving the generator outside. If you feel you've done all you can and you've still got diesel fumes in the work area then it might be time to do some sampling. This is where occupational hygienists come in. We put sampling devices on workers to measure the amount of DPM and or gases to be able to tell you exactly how much that person was exposed to and if it is a cause for concern. The other thing that you can do is to measure the exhaust from your machines and see how much exhaust they are producing. Understanding how much diesel exhaust is coming from your machines also forms part of controlling exposure so we will talk about this more fully shortly.  How much is safe for me to breathe in? This is a good question and there are many hygienists out there waiting for the science profits to provide us with that answer. There are a number of industries that are working towards an amount of 0.1 milligrams per cubic meter as the amount that people can breathe in and the air effects are unnoticeable and likely the cancer risk is reduced. But how much is 0.1 milligrams per cubic meter? This is 0.1 milligrams of elemental carbon per cubic meter. A cubic meter equals 1,000 litres of air. Yes, this is a bit confusing because not only have I just started talking about some strange number but I have also started talking about elemental carbon instead of diesel exhaust. Elemental carbon is the accepted surrogate contaminant to measure for diesel particulate. Don't worry too much about this just yet because we are going to give you some helpful references at the end of this webinar. The important thing to understand here is that 0.1 milligrams per cubic meter appears to be the maximum amount allowable but many industries are working to much lower than this. Employers should be conscious of reducing exposure to diesel emissions in their workplace by using what is referred to as the hierarchy of controls. The hierarchy of control is a common sense approach to methodically investigating ways to reduce exposures to the best possible advantage. The top of the inverter triangle is the best solution. It means that you totally remove the hazard. The bottom of the triangle PPE although often used first is the least preferred method. Let's take a look at each of these levels directly in relation to reducing diesel exhaust exposures in the workplace. Elimination. Can you stop using diesel in your workplace? Perhaps you hire a forklift or have a diesel forklift that is soon due for replacement. Replacing it with a gas one may be an option however this will not remove the gaseous emissions only reduce the particular emissions which is still a good outcome. Alternatively you may be able to use a heavy-duty electric forklift rather than one powered by an internal combustion engine so have a look at all the options before you buy any replacement. Substitution is our next option maybe there is a better lower emitting diesel fuel that can be used. Isolation and engineering are often considered together. You can isolate the worker from the exposure by putting them in a properly filtered and ventilated cabin. Engines that are correctly repaired and maintained produce lower diesel exhaust. In fact it has been shown in the mining industry that both gaseous and particular emissions can be reduced significantly by the use of an emissions-based maintenance program. These programs require regular testing of the raw exhaust of the engine and with some training it is possible to identify maintenance issues that when fixed reduce the emissions at the tailpipe. Such programs often have the added benefit of greater productivity as the engine is operating to its best performance. Emissions can also be reduced by fitting it with an exhaust treatment device.  Restriction in vehicle movements or running in idle for extended periods. Not starting up lots of machinery together. Not driving in convoy and very important is education and awareness for the workforce so they can understand the risks and are more likely to help control exposures. Having job procedures in place ensuring that fuel put into machinery is clean. Directing exhaust away from the people and the last level of control is PPB or personal protective equipment and in this case respiratory protection. Now we hygienists like to say this is the last option but it can be the first so that workers are protected immediately but the important part of this is that control options are reviewed from the top again in the hope to try to remove the need for PPE. PPE must be right for the contaminant to be managed and fitted properly. So if employers are doing all of the above to reduce exposure what can the workers do? The answer to this is lots. Employees should understand and take the hazard seriously. While it might be something that doesn't seem to be a big issue for them right now it's sometimes difficult to understand and accept that unless they protect themselves now they may suffer ill health effects further down the track. Workers should do all that they can to reduce the generation of diesel exhaust and their exposure to it. They need to drive or operate diesel equipment properly. They need to ensure that cabins are shut, seals on cabins are sound and filters are cleaned. They need to ensure they don't sit in their vehicle while it is idling for no reason and expose everyone else to the fume. If they have to wear a spirit protection they need to make sure it fits properly that they are clean shaven and that they wear it properly all of the time that it is required. Employees should also have the opportunity to make suggestions to reduce exposure. We said that diesel exhaust is a carcinogen and can be harmful to workers health in other ways through irritation that may cause asthma attacks and other respiratory symptoms. It can also cost your business money through lost workdays lower productivity due to unhappy unhealthy workers and machines not operating efficiently as well as hefty compensation claims if workers are proven to be sick due to exposure at work. Another very good reason to understand and reduce the risk to your workplace from diesel exhaust is to help provide a safe place of work. This is an obligation to all business owners in Australia under the Work Health and Safety Act and the associated Work Health and Safety Regulations. These do differ slightly between states but in a general sense you need to maintain a work environment that does not present a risk to health and safety so far is reasonably practical. If you can show you are managing the hazards and reducing the risk then you are well on your way to abiding by the law and most importantly looking after the health of your workers. Along with this webinar we have also developed a simple diesel emissions checklist that can be used as your first step in your risk assessment. It can be downloaded and used to determine if there is a risk. In addition to this we have produced a one page flyer for you to provide to your workforce to assist them with their understanding of diesel exhaust and why and how they play a role in reducing exposure. To find a bit more information on diesel exhaust emissions there are a couple of good publications to start you off at the AIOH. The AIOH is the Australian Institute of Occupational Hygienists and is the largest and only professional society representing qualified occupational hygienists in Australia. The AIOH has a position paper, Diesel Particulate Matter and Occupational Health Issues that is available to download free of charge from their website as well as a more comprehensive document that can be purchased a guideline for the evaluation and control of diesel particulate in the occupational environment. There is a lot of information available on diesel exhaust exposure and controls. An initiative launched in early 2015 is the UK based No Time to Lose campaign. The website has a lot of freely downloadable information. The UK Health and Safety Executive also has some great toolkits of information available to download. We hope that you found this webinar useful to help you manage exposure to diesel exhaust in your workplace. If you need assistance in identifying specific control measures or are in need of an assessment of diesel exhaust in your workplace you can consult the AIOH website where you'll find a consultant directory of occupational hygienists willing to help you. As a bonus if you're a small business in New South Wales work cover offers a rebate of up to $500 under their small business rebate program which was put in place to help small businesses fix safety problems across five common risk areas and chemicals and dangerous goods is one of them. There are rebates available for the installation of safe ventilation, exhaust or extraction systems, air filter systems for machinery as well as other controls. I encourage you to look for you to visit the work cover web page for further information and to look for similar programs in your home state. Thank you for taking the time to view the webinar and to listen to our recommendations on controlling diesel emissions.


The hypocrites in battle would flee, running fast away, never he. He who the strong could not tame, and the victories were penned in his name. The lion who conquered Hunain, and Badr and Uhud the same. The divider between heaven and hell, by Ali's side did the angels all dwell. The lion who roamed without fear, but gave peace to those who came near. In Jama, the honor was his, and in Sathin he showed them who Ali truly is. The one that no man could defeat, from him did the frightened retreat. On their heels did the weak turn and run, before the battles Ali led had begun. The legend from Khandak remained, the cause of their fear when they'd mentioned Ali's name. No man dare approach him with swords, the one given strength from his Lord. The gate of Khaybar in his hands, honor and praise Ali's name does demand. If God had not created the soul of Ali, unequal for Fatima, never would there be. His sword sent down in praise of Qarrar. La fatta illa Ali, wala saif illa Dhulfiqar.


My name is Anne. The last name is pronounced mmm. A lot of people don't know how to pronounce that. Anne is a blast. She does a good job, but for me, I love having her here. Her attitude, she just brings sunshine. So I have a very long-winded diagnosis. The shorthand is PHPV. There's no medical explanation for it. Like, in the old days when you have negatives, if I were to scratch it, you can't fix it. You can still see an image, but it's distorted. It's not perfect. And there's nothing you can do because the negative is damaged. She just seems to be able to handle all those kind of tasks and take care of it and get the job done and take care of a myriad of people with a lot of needs. Because people with disability run into a lot of problems. We have a lot of obstacles that most people don't. I tend to think that we are forced to be problem solvers from an early age.