Good. Hey. Hi. Welcome to EFF's live stream about net neutrality. I'm Corey Doctro. I'm a special consultant to EFF and this is our legal director, Corinne McSherry. Hi there. Thanks for joining us. We're talking to you today live from our offices in San Francisco and we're talking about last week's net neutrality decision and what will come of it. So Corinne, can you tell us like what is net neutrality? What did the FCC just rule and what does that change? Okay. So net neutrality boiled down to its simplest form is basically a set of rules and principles that say that your ISP or service provider like Comcast, Verizon, AT&T can't unfairly discriminate in how it handles the data that travels over its pipes. That's really what it boils down to. And that set of principles, net neutrality principles have pretty much been in operation and shaped the internet for well over a decade and since around 2005 really and it's really kind of how the internet grew up. And in 2015 the FCC adopted a set of rules to codify those principles and make them legally enforceable after 10 years of back and forth. So that was great and everybody was happy about that or at least 83% of Americans were. But we have a new FCC and the new FCC is chaired by a fellow named Ajit Pai who's been against net neutrality rules from the beginning. Last week the FCC, a majority of the FCC voted to get rid of not just the rules that were adopted in 2015 but importantly to get rid of any net neutrality requirements whatsoever. So that's the really radical move. It's not that the FCC took us back to where we were in 2014 before the order was adopted. What the FCC did is said we don't think we need net neutrality rules at all. Yeah and I think it's significant that not only did they roll us back but they rolled us back in a world in which the ISPs are really different from how they were when the internet started. You know I started with dial-up modems and DSL. There were a lot of phone companies in America and a lot more cable companies in America. There had been a lot fewer mergers and acquisitions. It was harder for them to coordinate their action. So it feels like we had penicillin to fight early germs and then we developed better and better antibiotics to counter this worse and worse pathogen, this concentrated market power. And now we've gone back to penicillin but we've got super bugs. Right. Yeah. That's exactly right. It's incredibly ironic that right now is the time when we would get rid of net neutrality when we desperately needed the most. Yeah. Yeah I remember seeing that more than half of Americans only have one broadband provider. That's right. Yeah. That's right. I mean the FCC tries to tell a story that that's not true because you have options beyond broadband. But the reality is for most Americans for high speed reliable internet access that our companies need and that regular people need to access health information, education, login to school, yeah that's broadband. So does this mean the fight's over? You know the FCC is chaired by an ex Verizon lawyer. He comes along and banks his giant coffee cup and says net neutrality is no longer the law of the land. Do we just go crawl under a rock until the next administration turns over? Absolutely not. There's actually a bunch of paths forward and we need to pursue them pretty much all at once and we are pursuing them all at once. So first initial path we need to lean on Congress. Congress has an option under what's called the Congressional Review Act to basically reverse what happened last week. It has approximately 60 days to do it from when the order is published. That's kind of complicated but basically it needs to happen relatively quickly. But Congress is already hearing from all kinds of constituents and saying we do not like what the FCC just did. So Congress is going to be under a lot of pressure to reverse the FCC's order. So that's job one and that's pressure point one and we will be talking with people over the next couple months and giving them ways to make sure that their representative knows. Then the second thing that can happen is you know state's attorneys general and legislators around the country are looking for ways that they can protect at least the people in their state. And some of those options are harder than others but definitely there's a lot of attorneys generals that are very very focused on this. Related to that we're all going to court. I mean there's no question there's going to be litigation. It's going to take a while because litigation is slow but there are many many people who are ready to go to court and challenge what the FCC did because basically what the FCC did is it said everything we said two years ago the entire world has changed which doesn't make any sense. And as we've pointed out and other people have pointed out also if you look at their sort of the evidence that they put forward to justify what they did just suggest they don't understand how the internet works. So we're going to go to court and explain how the internet works and we think that we can help a judge understand that what the FCC is doing is what's called arbitrary and capricious which you're not allowed to do. Then the last thing that I'm urging people around the country to do is look local. Look local. Lots and lots of cities are interested in creating their own broadband networks. There's lots of different models for doing this and a lot of energy behind it because net neutrality begins at home and cities, mayors and local representatives understand that just like the states need to protect the people in their state the cities need to protect the people in their communities. Yeah I think those are all really good points. I remember reading Tin Woo, the guy coined the term net neutrality, wrote a great op-ed in the New York Times and said that the Supreme Court says that the administrative agencies they're supposed to act on the base of evidence and they can't just make stuff up and that you know the way we know they had enough evidence to make the 2015 order is they made it. And so we're like where's the evidence that the whole world has changed since? So you know that at least gave me a little hope. Yeah I think it's right and one of the things that we noticed in the order is they relied very heavily to justify the switch on evidence that was put into the record by the ISPs themselves which is perhaps not completely reliable. Yeah putting a fox in every hen house is not exactly what we signed up for. Yeah so you know I I wonder about like wireless because we do have a lot more wireless carriers than wired carriers and you know the argument has always been well with enough competition maybe we the net neutrality order doesn't matter because if the cable operators are so crappy that people don't like them then maybe they'll switch somewhere else can we just let competition from wireless solve this problem? Well there's a couple problems with that approach one is that wireless isn't equivalent to broadband for people in many many communities so we're in far from being there yet that's one problem the second problem with it is whether it's wireless or wired when you set up a world in which your ISP your infrastructure is a gatekeeper between you and some service that you want right that's not the internet that we've come to know and love and that's not the internet that we want in fact one of the things that that's going to do is make sure that people who are worried about you know big incumbents like Facebook and Twitter and Google being too powerful without net neutrality rules for wireless and wired you just make sure that they stay powerful because they're going to be the people that can pay the extra fees to make sure that they can you know get the fastest access to the subscribers as opposed to you know the next Twitter the next Google the alternative services that we would like to come to know about yeah I often find out what companies are really thinking by reading the stuff they tell their shareholders because you know ever since Serbians Oxley you know executives that don't tell the truth really face both criminal and civil liability so I read with interest when the CEO of Netflix said you know back in 2015 we fought really hard because it was an existential threat we thought without net neutrality the ISPs who competitors of ours are going to put us out of business this time around we're still going to fight hard but we don't think it's an existential threat to us because we can afford to pay for extra carriage and people like our service you know it's if it's the next Netflix that we really got to watch out for not because we don't love getting video from Netflix but because if we it you know it seems really unlikely that this Netflix is the last great company wherever gonna have all the innovation happened ten years ago we're done now right right exactly I mean if you think about we have this political moment where people are quite critical of Facebook and Twitter and other platforms or how they handle information well don't you want a world in which maybe you could experiment with an alternative yeah now a GPIs congressional allies like Marsha Blackburn who's running for the Senate next year I understand has put forward a bill that they call a net neutrality bill and they say that it kind of finds the balance point what does that bill look like and is it isn't going to address the concerns we have no it's not we're that it's basically what's happening is that people are putting forward woefully inadequate pseudo net neutrality alternatives that are signed off on by the ISPs they're fine with them maybe but don't fall far short of what we had with the 2015 order so the Blackburn bill in particular it does ban throttling so that's a good thing and blocking so that's a good thing what it explicitly does not ban is paid prioritization which is the sort of code word for creating internet fast lanes so what's actually doing is it's making sure that net neutrality protections do not include prohibiting internet fast lane so it's actually the opposite of what we want in my view is if Congress wants to step in and do some good here that's great but we're not gonna accept anything less than what we already had sure yeah I mean I always say it's not fast lanes it's slow lanes right it's all the traffic is now in the fast lane the way that they'll put the what they propose to do is like it's like you get in a cab and you say take me to Walmart and they circle the block three times because Costco is paid for premium carriage we may think that Walmart and Costco might be better it might might be improved by like breaking them up into smaller companies or having more competition but even so when you ask the cab driver to take you to one of them that's where you expected to take you not to slow you down because the other one is paid for a fast lane yeah that's exactly right and really what's going to be in the slow lanes isn't just you know services for commerce and so on it's gonna be healthcare it's gonna be access to government information it's gonna be access to job information it's gonna be this kind of basic services that we actually all rely on the internet for every single day I mean we spent a lot of time talking that when we talk about net neutrality we talk about like Netflix and brand names that people know and that's fine but think about all the ways wouldn't that you use the internet it's you know it's it is basic infrastructure now yeah it's that one wire that delivers like free speech a free press freedom of association access to tools and education and civic and political engagement everything we use to measure a civilized society so EFF we started here in the US I used to be FFC European director and I know really well that we have contacts and we do work all over the world we have colleagues in Germany and in South America what about people in other countries what does it matter to them that if that the FCC and the American network providers are going to be able to prioritize some traffic over others well one of the things that's actually happening is it's quite interesting if you look on the international stage because other countries are handling net neutrality quite differently and are prepared to be a good deal more aggressive than our current FCC is prepared to be so I think that's great for people in other countries they have got regulators that are prepared to really step in and protect the open internet for those countries but the reality is internet is international we all know that right and so the worry that I have is that precedents that get set here in the United States eventually get followed in other countries not least because companies here in the United States will pressure people in other countries to follow them yeah I mean one thing we've seen over the years is the US trade representative is like patient zero and an epidemic of crappy internet policy whether that's laws that protect DRM or equivalence to the computer fraud abuse act that the US really likes his trading partners to you know jump off a building with them right that's exactly right and keep in mind just as with in copyright where you talk about you know the mouse that controls everything with Disney you know there's the ISPs that we're talking about are massive and massively profitable and they are very happy to spend a lot of money to make themselves even more profitable yeah yeah well so let me remind you you're watching a live stream from the electronic frontier foundation here in sunny San Francisco this is Corinne McSherry a legal director of electronic frontier foundation I'm Corey doctor I'm a special consultant here and we're talking about net neutrality and I'd like to move on to talking about the arguments of net neutrality opponents so they say that all the FCC did was roll us back to 2015 and you said earlier that they rolled us back to year zero square those two circles for me yeah well so what they want to argue is that all that happened is that the FCC reversed the 2015 order well that certainly did happen but that's not actually what the FCC is proposing to do what they voted on was actually a whole new approach that said we don't actually need prohibitions against throttling or blocking or fast lines or or slowly you know any of those things all we need is transparency so we just need for the ISPs to be sort of basically honest about what they're doing and then the federal trade commission will come after them if they're being unfair and deceptive so that's a whole new approach that is very ISP friendly and it's not the way we had it before what we've had from the earliest days of the internet was a sort of set of principles that just said you can you know unfair data discrimination what the FCC is saying now is we're not going to enforce that at all and looking to the FTC to do it the federal trade commission the federal trade commission's focused on consumer protection and policing unfair conduct and that's a fine thing for it to do the problem is number one let's face it these ISPs are going to have clever lawyers that are going to write disclosures that won't really disclose very much secondly it's going to be very difficult for the federal trade commission which is busy policing everything from you know bleach to children's toys to I guess now internet access to actually detect what's happening even it and even if they get complaints and reports from independent people they're really not the people who are best equipped to do this job the agency that has store historically been in charge of internet access is the FCC so it's really strange that it's just decided to sort of abdicate this response abdicate this responsibility completely yeah I mean it's interesting to think about how the FTC might manage this because first of all as you said the FCC has this like deep bench when it comes to understanding telecoms policy which is a pretty difficult and obscure subject but also you know the FTC their their modus operandi the way they're mandated to operate is they warn you and then if you don't comply then they get to do something so I remember when designer wear in Pennsylvania was making spy wear for a laptop larenta own laptops and the larenta own companies were spying on their customers whether they were covertly operating in cameras they were circulating videos of their customers having sex their children in the new they're plundering their hard drives for interesting music to listen to and when the FTC slapped them they said you are required to stop this unless you put it in your fine print from now on that this is going to be the terms on which you rent to own these laptops you know I think we want more than that from from this one wire that's so important in our houses yeah so you know one of the arguments that I've heard from pie and from his colleagues is that well if if this were the kind of thing that carers were really interested in we'd have seen them doing it all the time before that but there's only this handful of examples that we can think of what did the carriers do this kind of discrimination in the past and and will they do more of it yeah I mean they've experimented with this kind of discrimination many times and it's just that we occasionally caught them but actually I think one of the reasons that they didn't do it more is because they weren't allowed to right we had net neutrality principles in place and they got slapped if they got caught doing it but the thing is what happened in 2015 is we had actually legally enforceable prohibitions in advance right we had rules in advance rules of the road that said this is what you can do this is what you can't do I think now they're free to experiment as much as they want and they just have to disclose that they're doing it but again I think you're right you know I don't think disclosure is going to be adequate because no one's going to write a thing that says hi guess I'm slowing your internet down yeah yeah it's like now with now with fewer features it's going to be you know down in the small print underneath by like the thing that says by being dumb enough to buy your internet from Comcast you agree that we're allowed to come over to your house and punch your grandmother and where you're under where it makes some long-distance calls and below that is going to be the thing telling you what their network management rules are so let's name a sheen a little which companies were most heavily involved in lobbying for this all the household names you already know and of course this is Comcast this is AT&T this is Verizon you know some small ISPs also supported it but lots and lots of small ISPs did not so for example speaking not naming and shaming but actually naming and praising like small ISPs like Sonic here in the Bay Area said we don't have any problem with these net neutrality rules from 2015 we're fine yeah yeah I mean I my phone providers a company called Ting and they own small ISPs across America they bought up all these little mom-and-pop cable operators and put in fiber loops and they're definitely very pro net neutrality that it's great that there are those carriers but like it's not like I can get fiber from them you know the town I live in Burbank it has a great fiber network they're just not allowed to let me hook up to it in my home it just it serves Disney it serves Fox it serves Warners it's operated by the city but I don't get to connect to it in my home with my home business it's pretty frustrating yeah well that's your change I mean that's the kind of thing actually I think community should be experimenting with yeah I would say the city of Burbank perhaps should open up for regular people yeah so is this going to hurt network investment or help it you know they said that they said that this was that the 2015 order held back investment are the carriers gonna roll a bunch of money into giving us all fiber now I think not no but the investment argument actually I found particularly frustrating because the thing is that they said the carriers said a lot of things in what they submitted to the FCC and these sort of self-serving comments that they put into the record but they said a very different thing to their investors yeah which is where they're actually legally required to tell the truth and when they're legally required to tell the truth as in their SEC filings they said net neutrality rules the 2015 order is not affecting our investment whatsoever yeah and I think that you know we think about the investment the carriers make we always zero out the biggest ledger item which is the actual rights of way which the cities give them you know if you wanted to like start your own ISP and you wanted to negotiate street by street block by block house by house for the right to put up poles to you know just run wires into the ground to do all those things you would spend trillions of dollars and you run into money long before you finish because the people with the last bit that you needed to cross-connect would understand that their optimal rent for their land was your total expected profit minus a dollar and so you know that this is a common problem economists understand it really well and when Disney bought all that land in central Florida for Disney World they kept it a secret they had all these shadow companies these front companies because they knew that if if word got out that the prices will go up and up and you know we get the public we give the carriers all of this subsidy you know the only one company will get the cable franchise for your city and we ask them in return to give us some public value and I think that's a fair deal you know if they don't want to offer public network that offers the public what the public wants that when you click on a link you get the page then they can run their own network without the public subsidy they can pay those rents for all that sidewalk but until then I think if you if you take the public subsidy you should offer the public's network right well this is the thing where that I think people should be looking at very carefully over the next year because one of the things I think that's going to be happening is that state legislators are going to be looking hard and local you know representatives are going to be looking hard at how they treat carriers in within their jurisdictions and that also me as they look hard at that I look at seeing what they can do to protect their citizens you're going to see pushback yeah and it's the kind of thing that gets complicated and people don't always follow it so it's going to be the kind of thing we want to make sure we stay alert to so if state legislators are actually trying to do some good in ways that seem maybe just a little bit wonky it's still going to be worth paying attention because there's just going to be so much money against them and the only way to fight that we saw this with the fight for broadband privacy here in California where we were trying to sort of put in place good consumer protection privacy protections data privacy protections and you know when you've got a ton of money on the other side the only way you fight it is overwhelming public support yeah I remember that with SOPA you know eight million phone calls to Congress in 72 hours it turns out when you melt their switchboard they pay attention yeah yeah and they say all politics are local so how do you know if your ISP is missing with your neutral network it's actually pretty hard I think for ordinary people the good news is there are lots and lots of researchers who are pretty interested in this issue and so you know are trying to monitor it as best they can but it isn't easy to know for sure what's happening with your local ISP which is why it's so important to actually have rules in advance as opposed to trying to have enforcement leader because someone managed to actually detect when they're messing around I know that we have colleagues in DC that the M labs people who've done some pretty good work on that kind of measurement but this is this has been a real problem is wiring up the internet for like telemetry to figure out when bad stuff's going on our colleague or friend Julia Angwin from Publica did this amazing thing where she got her readers to download stuff that told her which ads they were seeing on Facebook that's pretty strong this amazing journalism just today this thing about how companies are discriminating against older people when they when they send a job ads and Tim Wu did the same thing in New York where he when he was with the State Attorney General he gave everyone an open-source tool to measure the speed of their network so that he could see whether or not Time Warner's claims were being honored you know they're advertising claims were being honored but it's really hard and obviously like it's much easier just to make the companies behave themselves than it is to get millions of people to sit around the edge of the network and try and pounce on them when they do wrong well and that's another thing I'm glad you reminded me of so one of the things that the FCC is also trying to do is actually make it really hard for state attorneys general to bring those kinds of claims so the FCC is kind of an essence thing if we don't regulate no one can we're not going to regulate and no one else can either yeah I think that's going to be challenged but that is pretty scary because I think state attorneys general are going to say no actually we think it's our job to protect our citizens and we think we can do that are there ISPs that we can look to that will help us support that neutrality well yeah so there's a couple things so there's you know Sonic is one that I know off the top of my head is good monkey brains is good yeah but there's also a group of ISPs that submitted comments for the record that they all signed on to that said you know we like the net neutrality rules and we want to keep them so you know those are the ISPs I would probably you know look to but let's face it the reality is you live where you live you know right yeah you're not going to move based on an ISP I mean you might but most people aren't going to do that and I think that's not an option for them yeah yeah it's an interesting point I wonder if people will someday advertise in the same way that like in London property that's near a tube station is worth a lot more because being able to get somewhere has some tangible value or being near a good school I wonder if being near a good fiber loop will eventually be a thing that realtors start to look at I think that's actually exactly why cities are getting interested in this because they want to be able to say like we're a connected city we're connecting as many things but you know where city come here yeah that's here because we're actually going to provide real infrastructure for you to build your business I think that's been the South Korea and soft diplomacy pitch for 15 years South Korea land of gigabit you know the land of imminent nuclear threat and gigabit symmetrical broadband you know I think a lot of people in our circles weigh the two of those and go imminent nuclear threat gigabit symmetrical broadband actually is like it's a disgrace I mean this is the one thing that's kind of falling behind it it's not exactly a problem it's just a problem which is that our broadband investment has been pathetic but it's not because these companies don't have the ability to do it spending their money doing different things but our speed is so far behind much of the world it's embarrassing yeah and just to remind you again we're here at the electronic frontier foundation with Corinne McCherry the legal director of EFF I'm Corey Doctro I'm a special consultancy FF we're talking about net neutrality in last week's order here so you talked a bit about state ag's and state state houses taking action on this and it's an exciting idea for me because local politics sometimes are easier to organize than than national politics I worry a little that the only state net neutrality laws we've had so far have been ones that ban net neutrality and ban cities from building our own networks and I is there a way that we can think of states crafting a law that protects net neutrality but doesn't establish the principle that in the future an FCC that made a pro net neutrality rule couldn't be sordid by a state house that was captured and that said we're gonna ignore it I think that that we're gonna have a world in which a state can just ignore what the FCC does there's certain things that are sort of you know going to be federal policy and have to be followed by all of the states you know but this isn't unique to the net neutrality problem this is sure in general we sort of I think what you know what's what can a state do what can a federal government do a good thing that a state can do very very traditionally estates can protect consumers a lot of consumer protection laws or state law it's a traditional you know thing that we know states are allowed to do so so I think a lot of those same principles are gonna apply here I do think though that you're quite right that there's 20 states that have basically anti neutrality laws in the sense that the state has decided that we're gonna decide at the state level what communities can do and there's different ways in which they sort of try to stand in the way of community broadband but I think that's going to change and the reason I think it's going to change is because those laws were passed without anyone paying attention right because they were passed because you know if you ask these basically talk to a legislator and said could you do this right and and it was the kind of thing which might have seemed a little bit arcane and maybe kind of wonky and you know okay fine we'll just put this through no one was paying attention that's not going to be true anymore everybody's awake and watching yeah you know it's there's this idea that like maybe if things get worse they'll get better and we'll like this is the thing that always drives me nuts people like well at finally things are so bad that people can't ignore them anymore and you know and the decade-plus of working with the FF I've really taken on board the idea that it's much better not to let people come to harm than to celebrate the harm but I do think that like there's a difference between celebrating things getting worse or cynically sitting there and saying let them get worse so people wake up and saying well now that they're worse let's not squander the blood and treasure here that we've that we've lost in this fight let's at least salvage from that the public awareness the peak indifference that we hit so that and use it to fight well I think that's right but I also think of it's just slightly differently from that and you know in my ten years working at EF I have grown much less cynical than when I started about you know the about the grassroots or the net roots however when I want to think about it I have seen people mobilize to do extraordinary things and so you know even though obviously with what the FCC did last week is a setback you know public awareness of net neutrality and why it matters is completely different right then it was ten years ago we've got a situation where 83% of Americans if you ask them do they support net neutrality they say yes well five years ago ten years ago if you would ask people the first thing is like I don't even know what you're talking about yeah you couldn't even have the poll yeah no like you can you can finish the words net neutrality without them nodding off right yeah you know I think that the world has genuinely changed yeah and and people are really and also we have tools that we didn't have before to get people mobilized and activated you know frankly it's just a lot harder to do things than the dead of night than it used to be yeah that's that is good news so you're the median EFF supporter out there watching this live stream what is the next thing you should do so the next thing you should do is visit our action center and and take action we're going to be and and but keep watching because we're going to be mobilized mobile rolling out a series of actions for people to take you can also go to the battle for the net calm and take action there you know get ready because particularly the first few months of the year is when we're really going to get me to get no millions of people activated speaking out and pressure in Congress because to do the first thing that I talked about which is to take advantage of the Congressional Review Act to repeal this whole thing because that's the that would really be the best and cleanest path forward and it's a it's I think we can really do this because so many people support net neutrality and so many people are unhappy about this what we've heard from people from staffers in Congress is they were getting more calls about net neutrality than they were a back tax reform Wow so this is an important issue and it's an important pressure point so we need to let Congress know we care about this the FCC made a mistake and you need to fix it yeah that's action dot EFF dot org for people want to find it who want to find EFF's actions there and then one of the questions we had if you're if you're a non-median EFF supporter but but someone that we also have a lot of in our constituency something about doing a startup what's your lesson from the fact that now the incumbents have to can pay a fee to keep you out of the fast lane what can you do I'm not sure I have as much happy news for for the startups I think you know it's frankly you're gonna have to start building it into your business plan and you know that's really unfortunate I don't like it I might you know maybe accelerate things before they put all the bad projects in place but you know you're gonna have to start building it into your business plan that you need to figure out what what are the extra fees I'm gonna have to pay that's a tough hard lesson yeah well so I you've been listening to EFF's live stream this is the Electronic Frontier Foundation in the Tenderloin in San Francisco this is Corinne McSherry our legal director I'm Corey Doctro a special consultant we've been talking about net neutrality thank you for everyone who tuned in oh is there one last question coming in there is what can non-US EFF supporters do that is a really excellent question what should you do if you don't live in America right oh so one thing that I'm pretty sure our development director would have wanted me to say is that one thing you can do is support EFF and support our work and so if you go to EFF.org there's lots of women can very easy for you to contribute to our work and we really appreciate it whether it's a small amount or a big amount whatever people can do it feels really good also when we can grow our membership to know that we have so much support so that's one thing that you can do another thing that frankly I would be doing is any wherever you are you likely there's some version of the net neutrality fight in your country as well so you need to get engaged in it engaged with it as best you can and you know you can call Congress as well they don't I'm sorry to tell you Congress cares a little bit more about their own constituents than people internationally but you know but again I think what I really come back to is you need to take you need to work on this fight at home where you are because what happens in the United States can be exported so you need to prevent that from happening yeah I mean back to back to supporting EFF financially you know Denise Cooper is a wonderful open source sort of doyen and one day she sat down and she said you know I every month add up all my bills and realize that I'm giving hundreds of dollars every month to companies that want to destroy the the future I want to live into phone companies that are working to undermine the net neutrality I care about to hardware companies that are adding DRM to their products to entertainment companies that are fighting to use copyright as a club to shut down free expression and you know I'm not gonna like go live in a cave and not have internet access and not use hardware and not consume popular entertainment and we can't have a popular movement if we tell people you you can't be in it if you don't like popular entertainment we won't be popular so what she does instead is she adds up the money she spends every month on subsidizing the destruction of the future she wants to live in and she makes a donation in that amount every month to organizations like EFF and the other organizations we work with and it's a thing that I took on board too it's not like the only thing I do obviously but I make a big donation to EFF every year myself and it's because I've I've been associated with this organization for so long I've never seen anyone spend money smarter than EFF and I and I know exactly how far those dollars that I put in go and so I think it's a it's a good investment in a better future well thank you yeah thank you and thank you for all the supporters that are out there on Facebook we really appreciate it thanks


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Amei kwa kwa rafikiwa Amei kwa kibigia So maybe you had some advice And maybe you had some experience And you had a marriage Being a dad A role model to other young dads In the world So you had some advice And maybe you had some experience So where were you? Kwanza, kwanza umenish Umesema is going through a difficult time Basia na jwa kuficha I am a jwa kana jwa Kuma me kwa kimi na Kwa na rafikiwa karibu So you had some advice And maybe you had some advice And maybe you had some advice But maybe you had some advice That made you go through a difficult time But you didn't have some advice because you were in a relationship but somehow Kwa kis some advice But you didn't have any advice But you were in a relationship So why do people always make a big deal out of what you have done online So why do people always make a big deal out of It's normal in life. Muna museu ki tokanga high school in the university, muna tu chekele hangi. Ame tokasa sa rena kampas, rena enda. Ume na tu leveo linkinia life. Muna tu chekele ifu se hati. Hatia wajakesiasi. Tumicheke sa asa. Ame transfer shule.  Hapana. You know, that's life. Life happens. People, life wuku bring together now, say. And sometimes it also separates you from other people. So that growth is needed. If that is what... I don't know what happened between the two of them. Okay, I did not know. So suwezii ngiliya, I cannot take sides. But if that is the best decision they made, then so be it. Wacha fanyikit nao furaisha. Wacha wacha kwa ngiliya maisha. Oh, si gwinini, wangeviliwa na takav. Oh, ame furai. And then, hey, aatu, unona wa se wunye wuku ame furai apu onana. Tumita viachua. Aonanga aatu. Akunam se wunye kwa na mutu wunye najuanga, ana furai angi wunye na kiyachu. Because kilam se wunye kwa dealership. Anajuanga waite dealership, anajuanga the difficult aspects, anajuanga how the challenges they want to go through. Aizi tokatua puku cekili asen, anajuwapia challenges ana pitiya. So ukinanga wasu ako evo. Nwa se aida aako matua. Ame se waku waku tu. Ma rejects. Rejects uchia kasaana. So mekutu amadvise, ma bia kipata mdada mungini, aneza kuhia kapaubili, kumatafti piyamsani, mgini mani hatia tena, hii kuhu deti misani. Siyoha tia. Pero you date who you want. You date who you want to be with. It's your choice. Mutu tia ako na kitambulisio, ako na ID. Kwa evo sa aya tamise zi dili na aya, naza dili na sere kali. Nazi mutu tia na mutu ana dili na sere kali personali. Ani mutu kuhingili aka tikati, ane mutu sere kali kikuja isemi ati, ati leta baba huya. Ita sa kimi kumiti. Leta edu muti tatu musiki. Ati ita kusutu budaki. Ita usutu kia kali lalanda, nia ta budaki ajuwi. Buta kit. So, anaza edu mutu nanda ka. Mzakumisani akuena. Nisi na emu lis na wau ni musani. Jayzina Biyonze sinu musani. Powerhouse. Kabina waji isa siwote. Ah, Batrao yun do kazi aw. Kwa kumiti uta make sure me patterns the right person. Uta vetu atu. Yun ukuli. Siu vetu. Mga applications ni me kujangafpi. Ni me reject mingi. Badu suji pattern to write for Butita. I'm still rejecting the ni ni. Kus the director of and HR. Una jwa atu aju hangi ati. Ule mutu na tembe na chaliako. Dio anajuwa kila kitu. Sosa sinina aku ukiji banya melea chaliako. Bwede uchaliangu biana kwangaivi naivi. Let me tell you something. You only know 90%. Iu 10% ni ni ne. Fendi ake anajuwa kusina. Sisi kama HR tu na keep it cool. Any person wanya jari buku ingi apo. Ake kwa zaku ni esi mua ingi. So it's not official but it's looking for our placement. Bro, guys are sending applications. Bro, men are always looking. Ataku kwa na mutu. Ataku kwa na mutu wuna gangari. Kwa zu neza atuwa any time. Kitu neza fangi ka. Let me tell you something. No woman will be with you. Uki fiki si ilesu ku tafika palichi ni. Aku na dema ataku kwa mese ako. Ilesu kwenya sasa wa ujiwezi wuna umia.  Ni wa dogu sana small percentage that high change statistics. Just an exception. But majority of women are wired too. Ilesu kwi ako iki fiki kwa kiyama ho, kazi me patata jwini ni. Kwami ah! Waja busta fangi ingi ne. Amba aiko. Wana get. So that's well. Woma kani live u any time. And even men can also leave you anytime. So never get comfortable in a relationship. So, why wacha weweze. Ako na mutu ama ija hiw inia chwa. Si wata wolaoh liw wacha w cannonabaasi. Futa! Si yang de herkes i responding. Namimini, ni me hiwa hiwa. Nilihachu wa nanini. Nilihachu na mamayangwa ni mendanganya titunenda na Nairobi. Akana peki ake maze. Akana beni nuvai fiatu. Toki eni yeki logo. Tiki zemze piyano yako. Nuna umainvest ni kitumbuna penda muzik. Bebe dreami yako one day ulitakas kumojo kuna music sku ulitaku inspire watu taku give a kusati. Nia piyano me kuska mashingap. Jino nabani kwa nyumbuna yi treasure sana sana. Sana bana. I love music, generally. I should sing back if it was, but missi nanga sauteza kuimba isin goma za kisasa. Nia mga kumatoona isoza nanana nanana. Ni nna za saintsie sauteza kuimba vitu za kisaasa. Nikona vocal li kwa kwa traditional music. Wato zbima ei mana ule jama kona vocal, usmala. Nalaji naa tu kwa bata na ni hebe. Kuko sana na wewe. Sata, apa sana snangas aute. So, I love music. Muzikiza muzikis sana. I love good music. We came to the So, that's why that's like the fifth piano I'm buying. Of course, I don't know how to play it. I don't know how to play it. But Zabbeza is doing this piano. This is a 40 kuru di jino na moodo net. So, Muji bama na at free time. Muji bama na kagita po. Ni kona saxophone. Ni kona keyboard. And I also have that grand piano. Grand piano only by two recently. Because I love the sound. Demo una advance. Demo una need kitu beta. So, ni li penda soundi ake. And then ni li kona tak a grand piano because it's a bit tougher. Coz aina mamuidilesho na una maali uta transposi duende ki. Lazima, wkitafta ki ingi na wna hecheze hapo si lazima. Akuna maali pakukontrol wna get. Aina comfort zone. So, I wanted to challenge myself. That's why I bought that. Okay. Tugia, gama. Tugia skanda ki jango. Wadka bikoapa. Wakenya wome fry sun. Mebe Tiiia ko transcend na Tiiia ko ni gani. sar hasa-fia, boosa yang Hmm-tandao mamavenavan hape. Nin Instead of being investigator. And I cancelled, the very first time tat ради kancrowa sez na wterrorfiegaria. So,Donald. And I blew up Yuh goad thee down to bye for brass change. time for t- tide savings. nights ahah but no micah brother.  So, I'm just praying for any for any African team because wimia. SoayanCho so so so so so so so so We have the same mistakes that Senegal and another African team have done, but we have the same weaknesses. And I think maybe we need your leadership, training methods, grounds and facilities in Africa. My plan maybe is to go to the World Cup. We have to go to the World Cup. We have 4 times, we have a leap here. Once after 24 years we have to go to the World Cup. We need to see what's going on at the World Cup, where is the 27th World Cup. ya rushっちゃ kwana wana, particles ate majerita blit nitu do nilipia tamtyu moja, 29 uhalcapton matvetia na gwana? nida selecta הu wana revival ni lipia, 29 uhalcapton data kami nisu kumbani ni tata futum tu moja ni lipia 29 uhalcapt wareni tu qita ji wari owa na nasha se u ampughten ntini ni Louis yaw Village kwa na mechi. Nasi hindi si kuya mechi doko doko ya, si jwi tim doko doko, ah nana si kuya kida mechi. Ni hana ni hana ville, ni hana ni kwa ni ni wana tu chapa. Benchmarking, bata muna tia wana si asa wana benchmarking kata? Wana nana benchmarking, sii sii piya tu hende, bata nata kupelakam tu moja. Uko. Naa, hindi uko lification. Kupelaku uko. Eh, Nazi mongu kuna airplane. Certificate. Kwa bankia ko. Ukuna 18 million and a buff. Hindi atata tu kida na uko, tu kuya me nawewe, wana eza fanya kitu, sii hati. Sii hati ni kupelaka kata, wana eza kwa muziko. So airplane. Ukuna 18 million kwa kauda na buff. Alas mii na kupelaka, wana eza kulipa bills. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Sasa wai kumalizi ya mafansuako tambe ni ni. Na mafansuimi ni tambe ya bana na openda bana. Ni ni watu ozuri, ni ni watu onguana bana. Mume kana sii mi ya kakada na kada. Wengi ni enum na skia wifu lakini tu nasoka. Nani na sema Julia malema li sema. When the hellers are holding, the Lord keeps on blessing us. Hey, take, hey, take. We are cruising nicely. So wale watu o wifu. Umie ni hapo. Uta umie na yo tumu ya ko. Wale watu kwa na tumu kama hi wana umie. But mafansuamba wana mitu support bana. Mi support SPM buzz, wana support ma na fi kizetu. Shikili ni hapo. Ni evo, evo. Lakin wana kwa na mentality hati. Sizi nu tume kuwe kapo wana umi ya nga bana. Kamu wana wana ni we umi tuwe kapo. We kandu kuwe kapo. Wai, wai. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Wai, Julia kana kama wai, wai. We ay tu meza kunghen n 게, na umeza kutomu ya mou jong. Bi li tatu kusu afkihake kusu mai renting. Na willa meri yandavi kwiwat anizweki. 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For seven billion people, you have fifteen billion accounts because most of them are fake. People who don't have the courage to put their name out and say, this is what I want to say, such people are slinks. There's not opinion, isn't it? All of you who are managing face, false, fake Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, take it away, put your name out there. This is me and this is what I say. If you don't like it, you explain to me why you don't like it. Then I will consider, but you don't even want to put your name on it, but you want to express your opinion all over the world. I don't have authority over your life to just say whatever I want about your life and what you do. If I want to say, I must take some responsibility for that, isn't it? Expression of opinion and expressing yourself out is a fundamental right given to all the citizens of the country. And we youngsters born in the era of social media are not at all hesitant about expressing our opinions on social platforms or with anyone.  So in such a situation, how a youngster should use the tool of social media and express his opinion so that in a very balanced way, so that no one is hurt? See, one important thing, I was also telling the Twitter people and yesterday I think they tweeted about it because I spoke about it day before yesterday. Is this, say today it's now 280 characters, not 140. In 280 characters, some of the world leaders are expressing the policy of the nation, all right? They're even setting foreign policy agenda of the nation, major nations in 280 characters, Twitter. So I was telling this Twitter people, see what you guys are missing, just for the numbers. You're missing something tremendous. Tomorrow, the entire world might set its agenda and policy on the Twitter. But that will not happen simply because for seven billion people, you have fifteen billion accounts because most of them are fake. People who don't have the courage to put their name out and say, this is what I want to say, such people are slinks. This is not opinion, isn't it? This young people must do. You can say what you want, but you must have the courage to stand up and say, okay, this is what I will say. Not hide under the chair and say something loudly. What is the point of such a life? What is the point of such an existence? Is it not important that whatever you say, you are accountable for it? Hello? Huh? Is it not very important? All of you who are managing fake, false, fake Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts, take it away, put your name out there. This is me and this is what I say. You like it, you don't like it. If you don't like it, please tell me, I will look at it. Yes? If you don't like it, you explain to me why you don't like it. Then I will consider, but you don't even want to put your name on it, but you want to express your opinion all over the world. No, you have no right to do such things just because you have technological tools, okay? I can't stand behind this board and shout something at you.  Unless people are responsible, without responsibility, you should not claim an authority over everybody's life. I don't have authority over your life to just say whatever I want about your life and what you do. If I want to say, I must take some responsibility for that, isn't it? If this is brought about, everybody can say what they want to say. Only thing is, you're talking about if it hurts somebody, see, let's understand this. Speech, communication. Speech is communication? Communication between who? Two people, isn't it so? Two groups of people or two individuals or whatever. When I'm speaking to you, is it not important, whatever I wish to say I can say, is it not important? I respect your position and I'm willing to listen to what you say and then I will say strongly whatever I want to say. I will say it very strongly, see, look at me. What I say, I will say it very strongly, but I am not even willing to listen to you, that is not acceptable. That is not at all acceptable. But right now, that is the instrument social media has given to people that they can say what they want and they don't have to listen to anybody.  Abuse is also language, isn't it so? Shall I use it? Right now, on you? Do you want it? Do you want to be abused by anybody?  Just that.


The Tiger, Financial News Network. Update. Good morning, folks. This is Steve Rhodes, coming to you live from the shores of Drizzly, Delray Beach, Florida. This is your 9 AM update, and currently got all the US equity futures traded to the upside. The Dow's up $119. NASDAQ NQ is up $43. The S&P up $12. Russell 2000 up $7 points out there. We've got gold back $7. Silver down $0.20. Platinum's off $15. Lightsweed crude, she's trading out at $80.17. That's off of $1.43. Natural gas up $9.00, pennies trading out at $5.05. So what does all this mean? Well, I tell you what we're going to do here. We're going to quickly change over to the 30-minute time frame charts. We're going to take a look at those. The reason that we're going to do that is because of the patterns that are setting up at 9 o'clock in the morning. So it's the Russell 2000 in the lower right that has a confirmed TD-9 count top. And that actually happened below a TD-9 count breakdown resistance. Now, what you're going to want to watch here is you're going to watch 24-14. If price closes below that, we're likely to see a move to 24-05. Between 24-05 and 24-08. If price closes below 24-05, you're looking at $23.91. So you've got a topping pattern that's taking place inside the Russell. Inside of the Dow, it's cousin right next to it on the left, it just formed just as we were coming at 9 o'clock. It just created bar number 9. It is the high of the pattern. That says that a top or short-term top should form by 9.30. It can be the high of bars 8, which it wasn't, or bars 9, or the bar following 9. So this is suggesting, as we come into the open here, that the Dow is generating a topping signal, the Russell 2000. It can still make a higher high, because it's in the bar following bar number 9, between now and 9.30. But you've got topping signals there. We don't have the topping signal inside the ES mini. It needs to close above the current high, or not close above, it needs to trade above the current high of this pattern. The current high of this pattern is 46.56, or 46.55. So any move above that will create a valid bar number 8, which can be a top. That would occur by 9.30 out there. And that's right below TD9 count breakdown resistance, 46.59. The NQ is gonna wait on these three to tell it what to do, because it doesn't have a pattern whatsoever. Now, why is that important? It's important because of the trading during the last eight trading days out here. And typically between 9.30 and 10 inside the US, we find out if US are still sellers, which they have been ever since November the fifth out here. So I expect to see some selling just as we come out of the gate. The question is, is it sustained selling? And if it is, folks, and if you see it closed below 46.45 inside the ES mini, you can expect an anticipate lower price. Have a terrific trading day. Stay tuned for Tommy O'Brien. I'll see you next Monday at 1 o'clock. Take care, folks.


Amen. So Ephesians chapter 6, we're going to focus on the first half of the chapter. So Ephesians chapter 6 and that first half of the chapter, we're seeing some advice, some biblical doctrine on children and parents. And then right after that we see some explanation on servants and masters and their relationships with each other. Now I don't know that I'm going to try to explain something this morning and preach a sermon on something this morning. I don't know that I've actually heard a whole sermon on. But we talk a lot about children obeying their parents and that side of things. But then there's also some advice here for the parents themselves. Look down at Ephesians chapter 6 and verse number 4. And the Bible says this specifically to the fathers. The Bible says in ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. So the Bible here is telling, it gives the children advice on how they're supposed to honor their parents and obey their parents in the first few verses of the chapter. But then we see this command for fathers, towards their children to provoke them not to wrath. So that is what I want to focus on this morning, is this idea of provoking your children to wrath. What does this mean? I want to explore this idea this morning. I want to explore the idea of what does it mean to provoke your children to wrath? What are the consequences of provoking your children to wrath? And just what does that mean? What could that mean for my family? Is what I want to look at this morning. So you say you're sitting here in your parent this morning and you say listen, I'm the parent. And my kids, they need to just do whatever I say and obey me. And that's true. That's absolutely true. That's what the Bible says. But what does it mean to provoke your children to wrath?  They're to obey you and everything the Bible says. But this is talking about children and parents and servants and masters is talking about the balance. There's balance in everything. Look back at verse number one. Your children are supposed to obey you. Look what the Bible says in verse number one of Ephesians six. It says children obey your parents and the Lord for this is right. Now notice how it says in the Lord there. Verse number two, honor thy father and mother which is the first commandment with promise that it may be well with thee that thou mayest live long on the earth. That's a pretty powerful message to kids that says they need to honor their parents and obey their parents in the Lord. We'll get to that in a minute. But it basically says that if kids don't obey, there's implication there that it has to do with how long they will live on this earth if they don't obey their parents. But it does say in the Lord. Now if you look at what that in the Lord means, it's not the purpose of the sermon this morning, but basically what that means is that children just don't have to obey their parents no matter what their parents say. And especially maybe people that get saved later in life, they may look back and realize the way they were raised wasn't necessarily according to the Bible or maybe even parents today may not agree with the direction that children are taking their families or whatever because you have unsaved parents in the mix there. That's why it says in the Lord. It's the same concept as Romans 13 where it says obey them that have the power, obey the higher powers is what it means. It means that look, there's a hierarchy. There's a hierarchy there that we're always to obey God over man. So look, we're to obey our parents in the Lord. So how could I possibly provoke them to wrath is the question. They should just listen to me. They should just do whatever I say, whenever I say it and that should be the end of it. So what does this mean? Now like provoking children, especially older children is the most obvious. Maybe you've seen this happen to people. With older children, when you provoke them to wrath when the children turn on their parents or their family you'll see it the most in the older children. It's the most visible when it actually happens and it happens all the time unfortunately. If you don't know children that have turned on their parents or turned even on their saved parents, even against the faith I don't think you've lived long enough. If you haven't seen that happen. So I want to talk this morning about three ways that this happens and thus three ways to avoid this. So why does it happen? Turn to James chapter 2. The first thing I want to do is I want to give you the three main reasons that children get provoked to wrath or that they turn on their parents. Look at James chapter 2. The number one way you can get your children to turn on you and everything that you have taught them is this. The first point is this.   Now really turn to James chapter 2. There's two areas where your works count in this life. I could break it out into many different areas but let me give you two main categories where your works count. The first one, turn to James 2 and look at verse 14. The first one is explained in James 2.14. The Bible says what does it profit my brethren? Though a man say he have faith and have not works can faith save him? Now underline doth it profit that is the point of that verse and of all of James chapter 2. That if you don't have works, your faith will be dead and it will profit no one. It will profit no one.  What does that mean? Your outward benefit of your life towards other people. What other people? Everybody. Towards your family, towards your children, towards other safe brothers and sisters in Christ and towards the unsaved world. I mean look, our works are, whatever our first works, our first works are to go out and preach the gospel. Our first works are to benefit the unsaved world. Our first works are to get others saved. So being of no profit to your children literally cost them their salvation. I mean your works have nothing to do with your salvation but your works could cost the people closest to you their salvation.  The most important thing when I think about my children is that they will go to heaven one day. So look, the second thing that your works could matter, could cause towards your children is your works living as a hypocrite could cause your children to turn their backs on the Christian life. I mean haven't you heard, at least heard of all these stories of kids or young adults leaving fundamentalism? You know, we're fundamentalists here, did you know that? What does that mean? Does that mean we're crazy and we're in a cult? No, but it means that we believe and we teach and we practice the fundamentals of the Bible. So the main cause of this is that they and you can read stories about it and these kids that turned on fundamentalism or turned on the church or turned on whatever their parents meaning they turned on their parents for sure it's because they witnessed hypocrisy. They witnessed hypocrisy from their parents they witnessed hypocrisy in the church they witnessed hypocrisy. There was preaching, there was teaching and then there was living in a completely different way is what was happening. So you say, I was thinking about this so we're living as hypocrites let's say we're all living as hypocrites we come here and we dress up and we're church people and we're Baptist look at my tie and my suit I'm a Baptist and we preach the Bible and then we go and we practice none of it and we practice none of it so you say, why are the kids the ones that suffer from this? And I'm going to explain it to you I'm going to give you an analogy imagine a guy who goes to work every day he sells Chevrolets this guy goes to work every day and all he does and he's the best salesman in the whole company he goes and he can sell a Chevrolet like nobody else can sell a Chevrolet he's got the look of an upright upstanding salesman he looks like someone who's trustworthy he goes and he meets a customer and he tells you he tells this customer from the core of his very being that this is the best vehicle made it was designed by the best designers it was, you know, don't chuckle but it was designed by the best designers it was built by the best factories and the best people in the world this is the best machine that can be purchased as far as an automobile goes he leaves it from the core of his very being I mean somebody meets this guy and they're like, wow this guy has sold me on this and he's the best salesman in the whole company and then after work he gets in his Ford and he drives home he gets in a Ford and he drives home now, who would see the whole picture? he's the best salesman in the company he's selling Chevys he's never sold a Chevy before but guess what? his family sees the whole picture his family sees everything that customer that comes to him they just see that this guy like, this is amazing this is the best vehicle ever because the guy believes it he looks the part, he's doing it but his family sees him get out of the Ford and sees him get in the Ford every single day and they think, you know, look the person he's selling to it works that's what I'm getting at he sounds good he's passionate but his family sees the whole thing his family sees the whole thing they know who he really is they know what he really believes are you following me? they see him need a new car they see him need a new car because his old car is you know, worn out and they see him go to the Ford dealership and get a new car and then he goes and he sells Chevy's every day they know what that sales job that he's just acting now this is a harmless example just now take the job and replace that with spiritual life and that's what being a hypocrite will do to your kids they will think that this spiritual life is just acting is a joke is not real I mean what a terrible because they see everything look these kids these kids are living with us I mean they see us get up in the morning they see us go to bed they see how you treat your wife they see how the wife treats the husband they see everything and they also hear what's being preached at church three times a week and if those two things those two sides don't match up you're going to have problems they're going to start to realize that you know what this spiritual life it's an act we go to church and we act this way and then we go home and we act like that if they see a Ford and a Chevy from your real life and your church life you're going to have serious problems and you know what these kids that turned into young adults that left the church and some of them went out and they wrote books and they did all these things and they're very vocal about this they'll tell you that's why they did it because it was nothing but hypocrisy is what they witnessed so don't be a hypocrite that's the first one that will provoke your children to wrath against you and the spiritual life in general the second one impossible standards impossible standards with your kids don't we teach a lot of a lot of law here what are we looking at every single Sunday we're looking at the law here's another way to provoke your children to wrath hold your children to impossible standards and this is when that's what I want to talk about this idea of this this is when fundamentalism slides into this word legalism I don't know if you've ever heard the word legalism I'll explain it to you but look I've been told this many times before I've been told this once we you know once we started going to a Baptist church and we started going to church three times a week and we started soul winning and we started just I mean we were basically living and breathing church and we were told this by many different people why you guys are legalistic you know as soon as you start changing your life all of a sudden your home starts looking different all of a sudden you start acting different you start speaking different everything changes isn't that what's supposed to happen by the way isn't that what's supposed to happen to us when we learn the Bible aren't we supposed to change our lives to become that that's the whole point of the Sunday night personality sermons I mean it's neat to talk about these different types of personalities but look no matter what your personality is you're supposed to conform to what the Bible says so look people will say they will look at that and they will see those outward changes and they'll be like you guys are too legalistic but what does it mean to be legalistic here's the definition here's the definition dependence on moral law than on personal religious faith that's the definition of legalism but here's the thing we're doing all these things and we're changing all these things in our life we're coming to church three times a week we're sold out in this thing we're sold out in this thing but here's the thing I don't have to do any of this I don't to get to heaven I don't have to do any of this yes well I profit other people if I do none of it no I won't we already talked about that in point number one but look just like you don't neither do you you don't have to be here to go to heaven you will not profit others and there's danger to your family in that way but look this can you can easily fall into legalism churches have fallen into legalism look legalism this idea what is the definition dependence on moral law rather than on personal religious faith dependence for what you know what that turns into dependence for salvation dependence for salvation on moral law rather than faith is what that is saying now look I used to misunderstand this now just stay with me for a minute I used to misunderstand this because I would hear the Baptist say things like this oh yeah they would we would hear about some guy or the subject of debate would be somebody who fell into serious sin and I as a Lutheran would hear the Baptist say yeah he was never really saved and I as the Lutheran may have believed okay well he lost his salvation the way I looked at it was it was just semantics and I used to debate this with a very good Baptist friend of mine before I was even saved and I would say you say he was never saved I say he lost his salvation what's the difference he's in hell but it's not just semantics what's happening is the person the Baptist the Baptist that looks at somebody who fell into serious sin and says he was never really saved well you know in many cases he's having a legalistic mindset about things and he's starting to attach things to salvation is the problem it's not semantics but you know it's not semantics so look lordship salvation is the beginning of this you know lordship salvation is the beginning of attaching works to salvation lordship salvation is basically this doctrine that says if you're saved you'll have the works that's lordship salvation look that's beginning to attach works to salvation now look if you're saved you should have the works but should is an important word there because to be saved has nothing to do with works and look lordship salvation this legalism it comes into lordship salvation and it turns into I mean it's close cousin which is repent of your sins theology is a close cousin to lordship salvation you know if you're saved and it starts out real subtle if you're saved you'll be sorry for your sins if you're saved you'll be sorry I mean you see how we kind of move into the gray and then all of a sudden we get into works salvation because look I mean don't you have to understand that you're a sinner to be saved yeah you definitely have to understand that you can't think that you're perfect otherwise what are you being saved from there's nothing to be saved from if you never made a mistake if there's no sin what are you being punished for nothing I'm perfect so you have to understand that you're a sinner you have to understand that you're a sinner now oh yeah you have to be sorry for your sin and that turns into you have to turn from your sin should you turn from your sin yes that's why we preach so much about sin in this church so we can all learn what the bible says and turn from our sin but it has nothing to do with salvation it has nothing to do with salvation so look this you know what this turns into this turns into a bunch of churches maybe they even have baptists in the name where you have a bunch of people in the church now we've subtly attached works to salvation and maybe you have a bunch of saved people in that church that all sudden have kind of oh I'll have the works if I'm saved you know they're saved look nothing about them getting mixed up in the head is going to stop them from being saved but they're all mixed up like oh I didn't do this right or I didn't do this right and this is how you get a bunch of people that are doubting their salvation all the time this is how this happens because you've got a church that's subtly attaching works to salvation all the time and you get a church full of people number one that saved people that that started in on and they're all like oh am I really saved look I had to break it to you but if you're saved today you're saved whether you think you're saved or not can you imagine being in a situation where you're saved and you're like every other day or every other month you're like oh maybe I'm not saved look you're still saved you know moron you can't take away your own salvation I mean thank goodness thank goodness but look this is how you get a bunch of people that think that they're not saved and then you know what you end up with a bunch of people that come in and that's the only gospel they've ever heard they're just not saved so look this is why and pastors that do this you know then pastors they do it they use it because then it's effective tool it's an effective tool to you know control people nobody will come to church I mean it just becomes Catholic I don't know what else to tell you well look fundamentalism itself engaged in this and people it turned people to wrath people got turned away from it so what are we talking about we're talking about impossible standards turn to Romans chapter 11 the reason look the reason that you can let me just give you the biblical reason why you can't go down any of these roads you can't go down you can't go into the gray here the gospel is the gospel it's all the gospel there's no gray look at Romans 11 6 the bible says and if by grace then it is no more of works look it says no more it doesn't say a little bit it doesn't say a tiny bit it says if it's by grace and we know it's by grace for by grace are you saved I mean it's very clear folks it is no more of works otherwise grace is no more grace saying look if you think it's a little bit of works there's no grace there if you think it's a little bit of works if you think oh I can't if I'm saved I will never fall I will never fall into you know this kind of sin or whatever I'm not talking about you know reprobate stuff okay but look the bottom line is and that would never happen okay by the way but the point is if it's a little bit of works there's no grace it's not like if it's a little bit of works you get less grace it's one or the other is what the bible is saying here but if it be of works then it says that the other way just to make sure we understand but if it be of works then it is no more grace otherwise work is no more work so look we need to teach our children the true gospel because our children look it's not a little bit of works we need to teach our children the true gospel so they know that they're saved no matter what it's eternal it's forever it's everlasting the bible says so they get saved that's the first thing but then a separate goal for us is to teach them the law is to teach them the bible and why do we teach them the law there's three reasons for the law John 14 15 if you love me keep my commandments you follow the law because you love God that's how we show that we love God we follow the law for our own protection God gave us the law because he loves us and then James 2 to prophet others so we follow the law children we follow the law children because we love the Lord because we want that protection for ourselves and then we want to prophet other people it's very simple but we are not to beat them over the head with it and threaten their salvation with it hold them to impossible standards turn to prophets chapter 22 you say what are you talking about I just let my kids go off and sin and it's no big deal absolutely not that's not what I'm talking about but here's something that you need to understand the second reason we're talking about is holding your children to impossible standards threatening salvation of anyone or questioning salvation of anyone especially your children after they've been saved it's just false doctrine it's adding works it's adding things to salvation then we should never do it but look as they get older here's something that you need to realize here's something you need to realize Proverbs 22 15 the bible says this foolishness is bound in the heart of a child but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him now look we talk a lot about the second part of this verse that the rod of correction look if you're not spanking your children and you're not disciplining your children in a proper way you are going to suffer the consequences of everything I'm talking about today first of all but look the bible says in the first part of this verse that foolishness is bound in the heart of a child it doesn't say that when they get to be 18 or 19 or 20 or 25 that they get foolish it doesn't say that they get foolish when they're 12 it's there already the foolishness is it's bound in their heart it is our job it is our job to drive it from them to drive that foolishness from them we have this child and he's 1, 2, 3 and he's got foolishness bound in his heart and we need to properly discipline these children and teach these children the bible and bring them to church and all these things to drive that foolishness out of them you say okay well I'm going to drive the foolishness out of my children and I'm never going to have any problems okay raise your hand if you're a perfect parent raise your hand if you're going to do a perfect job of driving the foolishness out of your children nobody nobody I'm a sinner I'm imperfect and so are you look the better you do at this the better it's going to be for you but you will never get it exactly right which means there's going to be foolishness still there in your children they will be imperfect they are going to make mistakes and especially look they cannot be destroyed for these mistakes they're going to make because they have foolishness bound in their heart or you risk provoking them to wrath you risk it it doesn't mean it's okay to sin it doesn't mean it's okay to disobey your parents but you must understand that this foolishness is something you're still going to be dealing with even as they get older what did we just talk about being saved is not going to drive the foolishness out of your children it actually has nothing to do with the foolishness in their heart that's your job so if you have a child who's 19, 20 in their teens whatever and they're getting older and they're a young adult and they're a complete fool blame yourself blame on yourself the danger is that these kids are held to such high standards and then they're just crushed for their mistakes and then they turn on their Christian life I've seen this happen too it happens all the time actually the world don't ever forget that the world is pulling them the world is always going to be pulling them and as they get older it's going to pull them harder this world that they're living in why not live in the world you know these things that I'm getting destroyed for these things that I'm getting crushed for you know they're normal in the world I mean this is the kind of thought process that you could turn your kids to if you're just crushing them for their mistakes so what's the answer what's the answer sin's not okay it's not okay that my you know kids go and do you know get into sin that's not okay that's never going to be okay what's the answer it's simple it's one word the answer is this mercy mercy the better you are at driving out foolishness parents when they're young the better this will go but young people I'm telling you young people are going to need some mercy because they're foolish they're going to make mistakes all you teenagers you're foolish I'm not trying to hurt your feelings but you're fools but I mean you are foolish in many ways the bible uses the word foolish as not having wisdom look you don't have experience is what I'm saying you don't have experience you are foolish in many ways and teenagers young people as you start to figure things out don't think you know everything because you're still foolish so humble yourself in that way look teenagers learn from the mistakes of others please do yourself a favor once you're saved and here's the thing once you're saved once you're saved you don't you have to worry about you know when your kids get saved when they're seven eight nine ten years old whenever that is when they get saved they have two things to worry about now because they have their parents chastising them if you're a good parent you're still going to be chastising them and you know now you have God chastising you too once you're saved you know this is why this is why and this is my choice I don't know other people probably do it different but I don't spank my teenagers okay first of all I think it's weird and second of all the main biblical reason to it is that you know they have to deal with God's chastisement now turn to Hebrews chapter 12 look as your children get older older God and they're saved they have to be saved but as they get older God's chastisement steps in look at Hebrews chapter 12 look at verse number six the Bible says for whom the Lord loveth he chaseneth and scorches every son whom he receiveth look I talk to my kids about this I talk to my kids about this you know as far as you know God's going to chastise you just remember what the Bible teaches this is an important reason that we teach the Bible to our kids but look as our children get older they still need direction they still need discipline but now they're going to have to deal with consequences from their heavenly father as they're saved so show some mercy show some guidance show some mercy and the third reason is this so we see that being a hypocrite will drive your children turn your children to wrath not holding your kids to impossible standards especially if you would work that into having them doubt their salvation or that's just wicked don't even go there churches have gone there fundamentalism has gone there but the third reason is this are you allowing your children to enjoy their Christian life as you discipline them and as you hold them to these high standards you see that they're messing up along the way and that's going to happen but as you correct along the way and you drive this foolishness out are you allowing them to enjoy their Christian life one way that parents do this they have their kids grow up and then they start having their kids do their job they start having their kids be parents for them I can see how this could happen I saw when our children got older it was nice to be able to leave the house and be able to go out to dinner and do things with my wife but look we have to understand that with older children especially older children still living at home this danger is real now look they're more observant than they've ever been these young adults they can clearly see that hypocrisy they can see that the standards that you have taught are just a joke to you if that's what's going on and on top of all that they see how other kids their age are living too look when these kids are in church and they're six and seven years old they have no idea what's happening out in the world as kids get older, young adults and they start to see how the world is that I mean they're aware of it they're aware of it and look without the joy of being married and without the joy of having that relationship of a husband and a wife they should not be given the burden of taking care of a family it will drive them away from the Christian life it will provoke them to wrath I'm not talking about helping around the house chores and things I'm not talking about putting your responsibilities on your children and not letting them be kids look these kids, these young kids these young adults they should have there should be joy in this Christian life and we should protect that look they should have fun coming to church they should have fun coming to church in activities they should get through worship they should get to a point as a teenager where they get joy in sitting in church and listening to the Bible and singing hymns they should get joy through service for the Lord they should get joy from soul winning they should get joy from serving their brothers and sisters in Christ and they should get joy through fellowship with their friends it's not your children's responsibility to be parents so look parents contend to get lazy especially as kids get older make sure that we're not putting that burden on our children or we could drive them away we could provoke them to wrath I'm going to give you an example of this I had someone in my life, someone that I knew they grew up on a farm they grew up on a farm and from a young age on this farm these kids they were expected to work like adults and this is actually a common story from where I come from their life growing up their life growing up was nothing but work and loneliness is what that farm meant to them and to this day they became an adult that never even want to go back and visit that place they turned from it they turned them to wrath it provoked them to wrath because it was such a miserable experience for them they're supposed to be joy here they're supposed to be joy experience here now replace the farm I got some analogies for you this morning but replace the farm with the spiritual life now you can do the same thing you can do the same thing you can turn them away from it so the reason I was thinking about this sermon this morning is I've just I've seen so many stories I've read so many stories I've witnessed so many times of you know kids turning away from even Baptist churches from fundamentalist Baptist churches or just rebelling against this idea of fundamentalism itself to the point where fundamentalism you know that word is kind of got a bad name to a lot of people but here's the thing fundamentalism all it means is that we are adhering to the Bible we are adhering to the fundamental look it's not even just the fundamentals of the Bible we adhere to the whole thing we adhere to the whole Bible in a time where people are abandoning the Bible we are going to stick to the Bible so if this suddenly goes wrong I'm telling you if this goes wrong in your family if it goes wrong where your children rebel against this look it's your fault not the Bible it's something that you did wrong and that's why I'm trying to point out these three things this morning because the problem God's word is perfect God's word is perfect if something goes wrong it means that we did not do it right it has nothing to do with God's word so does this mean we should go easy on our kids does this mean we should allow sin no absolutely not and parents parents that do not discipline their kids especially when they're young will be at greater risk for all of these things you will be at greater risk to provoking your children to wrath in all of these areas all three because they will have little respect for you if you're a hypocrite because foolishness will be bound in their heart it will remain in their heart and the second point is they will not adhere to any standards if that foolishness is still in their heart and third of all rebellion the rebellion that comes from all of that will make them envy or be jealous of the world itself as they see others their age having fun they see others doing things that they were never allowed to do they were never allowed to do I've seen this so many times too I mean I remember I remember a family growing up they were Pentecostal and we know what's the mistake that Pentecostals made they attached works I mean the definition of legalism Pentecostalism they attached all these works to salvation it was nothing but threats of salvation and we saw these kids growing up and from the time that they were seven, eight years old in school they dressed like Pentecostals and they looked different and they acted different every single one of them went off the deep end and pretty soon you were like I didn't understand it I was just like what in the world I mean drugs, the worst things all these kids they were provoked to wrath from all of it because they saw that their parents were hypocrites and that the whole thing had impossible standards tied to their salvation and it's just a mess the whole thing was a mess turn to Colossians chapter three so how do we stop it how do we do it watch for those three things hypocrisy will drive them to wrath impossible standards and having no mercy on them will drive them to wrath will provoke them to wrath and finally you have to let your children experience persecution life has a lot of joy to offer I understand persecution will be there tribulation will be there but look there's joy there when you give the gospel to somebody and you don't experience joy out of that something's wrong with you something's wrong I was so joyful after Wednesday I mean I they made my whole week maybe the month look at Colossians chapter three let me ask for you let me give you before we close let me give you a a warning sign let me give you a marker that you can watch for look at Colossians chapter three in verse 21 fathers provoke not your children to anger lest they be discouraged underline the last four words here's the thing before any child turns his back on the Christian life he or she will reach a point of discouragement first because they will be discouraged so you need to be checking on your kids you need to be talking to your kids you need to be asking your kids especially as they get older because like it's obvious you can see how you know the kids are when they're three four years old but you need to be talking to your kids how are you doing how are you doing how was your day today every Sunday night my kids hear this from me how was your day did you have fun scale one to ten what was it and I better not hear any nines and I'm not threatening them with I'm saying if I hear a nine that's a red flag to me something's wrong you know I'm always asking my kids how are you doing did you have fun you know these conversations need to be regular ones with your kids discouragement it means something's wrong and you need to get involved and you better start the investigation at that point you know something's wrong they're discouraged they give you a nine they give you an eight what's wrong what's going on it may be as simple as some kid bothering them or something but you need to get involved and understand what is going on for every saved kid that has walked away from the Christian life look saved or unsaved but look my guess is plenty plenty of saved kids do it plenty of saved kids walk away from the Christian life if they're not saved look if they're not saved and they're 18 plus years old you've got bigger problems you're probably in the wrong church but look for every kid that has walked away from the Christian life especially those vocal ones that we've all heard about maybe they're sons or daughters famous people or whatever they started a website I guarantee you for every single one of those kids famous or not they've dealt with one of these three things and one of these three things is what provoked them to turn on their Christian life now you say you're sitting here and you're like this will never happen to us this will never happen to us we're in a good church and we're doing the right things this will never happen to us let me just give you some statistics here and the closest I could find was the southern Baptist convention numbers okay and I understand the problems with the southern Baptist convention but in 1989 76% of southern Baptist kids think about that in 1989 that's not that long ago I was in high school well middle school in 1989 76% of kids that were that were children as southern Baptist became southern Baptist adults that's three quarters three quarters of the church that grew up southern Baptist they remained southern Baptist as you know they were adults in 2018 that number was almost just a little over 50% so half I mean I understand this you know it's just a measuring stick here but the point is that I mean you don't have to look too far to find out that a majority of kids in a lot of you know churches are not continuing in their Christian faith as adults and it's one of these three things so you say it'll never happen to us but I'm telling you that the danger is very real the danger is very real don't ever take these things for granted remember these three things because look I mean the consequences are too great it's like I told you Wednesday night we're playing this year I mean the stakes cannot be greater so remember these three things don't be a hypocrite don't hold your kids to impossible standards and you know make sure your kids are getting some joy out of this Christian life because if they're not something's wrong okay let's buy our heads and have a word of prayer


I am so proud of all the York Countyans who have gathered here tonight and I'm so sad with the reason that has brought us together. Because on Saturday morning in a quiet, leafy neighborhood in Pittsburgh, a hateful man entered a synagogue and brutally and methodically murdered 11 worshipers. These worshipers were murdered for no other reason than who they were, the religion they professed, and the God they worshiped. It was a despicable and cowardly act of anti-Semitism that has no place in our society. It was an act that is fundamentally at odds with who we are.  So tonight all of us here in York County mourn for the victims, we mourn for their families, we mourn for their friends, we mourn for their neighbors, and we mourn for ourselves. We feel great sadness, we feel great shame as a result of what one human being did to innocent victims in that tragedy of Pittsburgh. Let us therefore resolve that this heinous act of bigotry will not define who we are, nor will it define how we treat each other. We must recognize our common humanity as we live our lives. We must celebrate that common humanity while we rejoice in the distinctions that enrich our lives, enrich our communities, enrich our families. The events in Pittsburgh remind us of the fragile nature of life. These events remind us that we have a responsibility to each other in guarding that fragile life. These events in Pittsburgh remind us how much we truly depend on each other. The first responders, for example, who rushed in to help the victims. The friends and neighbors who reached out to help and to all of us who mourn. The people from all over the world who reached out to offer solace and comfort. But in the end, we must all face up to the ugly truth about what happened in Pittsburgh. The anti-Semitic attack in that synagogue was an attack on each and every one of us. It was an attack on our humanity. It was an attack on our values. It was an attack on who we think we are. It was an attack on our very being. So let us use that hateful attack in Pittsburgh to reaffirm our deep and abiding commitment to the simple notion of respect. And let us resolve that the evil forces that propelled that attack have no place in our lives, in our families, in our communities, in our institutions ever. Thank you.


Beat urea. Pink pee after beet consumption is totally harmless. You're just peeing out some of the pigment, but it can be used to remind us of an important fact. When we eat plant foods, many of these wonderful antioxidant pigments, like opine, beta-carotene, phytonutrients, are actually absorbed into our bloodstream and bathe the organs, tissues, and cells of our bodies. There's no direct connection between our gut and our bladder. The only way these beet pigments are finding their way into our urine is by being absorbed through our gut into our bloodstream and then circulating throughout our entire body before eventually being filtered out by the kidneys. Our blood, for a time, is a little pinker, too. When we have garlic breath, it's not just garlic residue in our mouths. It's the fact that those wonderful health-promoting garlic compounds got absorbed into our bloodstream and are actually being excreted straight out of our lungs. If we just had a garlic enema, we'd still get garlic breath. So when you see studies investigating the antibacterial effects of garlic, and you're thinking, who cares what garlic does in a Petri dish outside the body? That's why we care, because it does circulate throughout our body. That's why garlic has been found useful as an adjunct treatment for pneumonia in critical cases. It's excreted from our lungs to get that garlic breath and can wipe out bacteria on the way out. Other than pink pea and red stools, which gives a whole new meaning to the term toilet bowl flushing, any other side effects to beet consumption? One more.  The case of the purple colon. Purple discoloration of the large bowel related to beet root ingestion.