Hello ladles and jelly spoons. Welcome to eFap mini super chat catch-up for episode 258 delving into the depressing abyss of bogey 298 With a whole bunch of guests. What an episode.  Wow. I've heard the the guy who directed it Mike clumb. He's doing one for DSP Interesting And as far as I'm aware it's one where he'll be able to go see him in person I think they're gonna try and strike some kind of deal. I don't know. I don't know what the newest news on that is, but Good luck. Oh bogey in person, right Yes, but bogey I feel is much more willing to do Yeah, I can see DSP being like hot now unless you promise to like make him look good or something, but I don't know You're a funny one Is uh that is the eldest of the Lol cows as far as I know anyway, not like actual age, but Longest running he was around because he was he was a lol cow kind of from the beginning whereas wings It took a little while and obviously bogey. It took a lot longer Well in a lot of these cows either stopped or paused But dsp has just been consistently going for like ages Well, yeah, because that's that's kind of the nature of the bogey story is the dramatic fall from grace whereas dsp was never In ah, hey, anybody's good graces really a little bit like and it was all like Inaccurate almost, you know like oh look this guy's great at doing let's plays and stuff And it's like no, he's not there's just no one else around Well, how do you uh, well, yeah, because I mean that was of the era of put your uh He started back in the era before it was just accepted That you need to capture directly from the source. He would like put his camera on a stack of like dvds And then I then record the screen Yeah, wasn't he like really resistant to changing for a while because that was just the way he does it Like that was his thinking Well, this is how I do it. So I'm gonna keep doing it this way even though there's an obvious better alternative What a character And we're gonna find out what everyone had to say about that episode today What messages they sent in and uh, I guess what we have to say in response to it So I guess we'll get started right now. Why not? I'll read the first one Which is high rags Hello Brilliant The second one is rolls upon rolls upon rolls Rolls on rolls on rolls which makes some sense. I think Yeah, he's a really kind of guy not to imply like the existence of physical exercise Or or tumbling but like he he's he's a rolly man. Hmm Uh thoughts of the latest tiktok influencer osama bin laden. This is the reference to how he His letter was being read by tiktok influencers or whatever, right? They were like, wow, Osama wasn't that bad or whatever.  I think that's died down though tiktok is um he has waves of Trends and I I believe that one's already stopped. So Who knows what's next for the world? Um Do do step aside oppenheimer.  That's actually true The idea of what so boogieheimer?  Finely veiled Like which part anything I said or because I there was no thinly veiled. I was just there was no I wasn't trying to meme.  That's yeah. Yeah. Yeah All right, what the idea In the sheer kinetic force eradicates the city, I mean damage will be done. There's there's no denying it. Uh, yeah Hey masses can't catch this one live unfortunately boogie is a fascinating creature Can you guys do your best impression of a son struggling to use a toaster? Like play, but how do we do that? Uh, I mean, we can't I guess all you could do is the voice of the frustration of it not working But we can't exactly we can't like pantomime or anything. I think a son is smart enough to use a toaster Because well like Like can a cro can a crow do it? Um, I think that if a crow can do it a son could Probably do it you can teach a crow to do a lot of a lot of cool things So yeah, I wouldn't underestimate a crow by comparing him to a son. I mean, you know Yeah, that's what I'm saying if a crow can do it then I think a son's got a sporting chance Because remember crows like they are they work together in a really coordinated way, you know, they look out for each other and uh They communicate messages as part of their uh, their big group at murder, right? That's the name of a crow group Yes Yeah, they're like they're very cooperative kind of like A bit worker co-op. I suppose they all own the means of their production of uh of um Of I guess getting like worms and stuff like getting worms and seeds and things and whatever Whatever other things crows eat No, I thought you were going somewhere else with that something where a son like cheered on to the deaths of people That he might not have liked or something I don't know. I was just thinking about crows. I was just thinking about crows and how they're interesting little birds Yeah, crows are great. I like I like how those sorts of birds kind of hop around and strut, you know The way that are like crows and ravens and magpies kind of kind of saunter around the place I think if they were an impression of him using a toaster it might involve Like he puts the bread in And you know engages the mechanism, but hasn't actually powered it but doesn't realize and so when it Doesn't do anything you would call it a liar I could see that happening Well, there is a lyre bird There you go, then it all matches Um also play little nightmares high rags Hello there Maybe someday Maybe it was called long nightmares Yeah Had to do a triple take reading this title.  Why And does chris chan next on the list? Probably not, but the why is just because we have some unique backstory for a Knowledge for boogie and the documentary was some special Um, I mean, yeah, it's the biggest deal in boogie's chris and some well, I guess since uh him getting arrested Yeah, and who knows it's only uh, I mean it's There's plenty of years left in theory Right, who knows what'll happen next This is the beginning of a new era for boogie that will I'm sure yield great results for him Uh boogie to depressing boogaloo Um, I don't know I I find it more fascinating than depressing if I'm being honest Oh, yeah, it's not me. I can just like laugh at him, right? He's the one who has to live with himself It's it's a fascinating tale. Um, and it's and I think the big thing is that uh I don't know like the idea of it being a fall from grace. I suppose that's accurate But I think the only thing that's happened is it's just oh like he was always I don't know. He was always not great is uh, Essentially what you are I think the realization is not that something changed or that something changed I guess in in the in the forward face that he kind of put on That there was a persona that he cultivated of like the jolly fat internet guy But then in reality, he was uh, just like this incredibly narcissistic Selfish self-serving individual Uh, there are parts of the documentary that are depressing for me. I think it's an aspect in moments What's the most depressing part? Yeah, um, probably the double apron was something of a like Horror and then uh, yeah, like that's your body.  I guess it's like a horrifying insight into What the human body can become Very adaptable to ensure it survives along with your decisions Whatever they may be. Well, yeah, uh, I don't know. It's just you don't see a lot of obese animals. Do you? You know more many, um, usually the opposite, right? Whatever you see an animal that's really struggling.  Well, because it's it's you know, it depends on the dog Some dogs can be chill and don't want to walk as much But then there are other dog breeds like Labrador's Kelpies Huskies and and German Shepherd stuff that need A lot of activity Which is interesting considering that you don't I don't think you see nearly as many fat cats as fat dogs No, I think people either people have a tendency to not overfeed their cats Or I think cats due to their passive nature are not constantly Like pestering or begging for food or I think um It might be the cats lead more self-directed lives than dogs in a sense um A cat's just gonna do what a cat does And a person can't really I don't know it's harder to coax them into any given lifestyle compared to a dog Um and maybe it is exactly what you said as well Right the idea that a dog's always gonna kind of let you know what's going on and a cat's more like, you know Yeah, whatever, you know I'm just minding my own business here and cats can get themselves fed to an extent as well I think better than dogs, right because dogs will eat a lot of things that can even kill them But cats are like hunters or at least Oh, well, yeah cats are uh Look, I love cats. No cats are incredibly destructive to our local ecosystems because they will just go out and hunt shit um Cats are like hyper carnivores And it happens incredibly affected They sleep and lounge around so much Um, so I don't know maybe maybe these critters It's just about like metabolism and stuff like that because you've never you never see lions, you know A cat's copuscular Um, they very well might be but that depends on one very important thing for any What's that? Which is the meaning of that word Our copuscular means uh that most active during uh dusk and uh and dawn I do not know I believe that uh, I believe a lot of cats are copuscular But I don't know if like that domesticated cats are because like I know I know it because it's from archer because archer has a friend Ocelot called babu and um He's described as being copuscular Which I believe that ocelots are But uh, obviously not all cats are the same. Um I'm pretty I Man now I actually don't know I feel like they have a very like the lounge around a lot, but I feel like at night They're definitely active Yeah, which is what's making me wonder now because cats are not nocturnal But they're not damn. I mean I this is probably be solved with a quick google search, but I've never really thought about whereas obviously dogs are You know that that daytime di neural is what I believe it's called when you're awake during the day Yeah, dogs have a tendency to sort of match the sleeping schedules of their owners Um So if you are more nocturnal than your dog will sort of reflect that is what I understand But since most people are not then it doesn't normally happen Well, it's kind of the interesting thing with cats is that uh, you know, obviously we domesticated dogs We took wolves and turned them into dogs whereas, uh, it's often said that cats kind of domesticated Themselves or alternatively that cats domesticated humans in a sense that like cats didn't change that much Compared to obviously obviously you can see the similarities between certainly big dogs and wolves You know huskies howl and stuff like that But you know a domesticated cat it's like how much have they changed compared to wild cats For instance as far as as far as I know um only the only two species of or three species of cats that form social groups No, I think might just be the two it's just um Lions and cheetahs Well, yeah lions do I think cheetahs do Kind of but uh, it's kind of a a misunderstanding about cats is that uh domestic cats Are not solitary necessarily like cats cats can be both solitary and social um Just depends on who's around you know, it's not like if they're If they're not if there's not other cats around I don't think it negatively affects them They just sort of go like a cat can be on its own But a cat wouldn't be unhappy with some other cats around as well Um compared to for instance rats are social if a rat is kept on its own it's going to get depressed Yeah, that's why if I was gonna get rats and I'd have to get at least two Yeah, yeah, you've got to get more than one just like uh, just like with a lot of birds that getting more than one It's either you've got to get two or you've got to spend an immense amount of time with a bird Like yeah, it has to be around. Yeah Like a cocker two and they are incredibly demanding, but I that I suppose that I don't even know if that answers the question that we got Anyway question. Yeah, what was the question about? Something about cats was it about was the question concerning cats I was this one that began with the Hassan thing or was this one else? Oh We talked about we talked about crows and ravens, but I think we moved on I think the ravens led us into the animals I think Because maybe paired. Yeah, because we're like if raven can do it Hassan might be able to do it Hmm Anyway, what a yeah, what a fun tangent Consider star wars theory to join the next star wars disney plus defecation on efab tvs I don't know if the vibe would match his uh, his like on the moment reactions are a lot more positive with compared to ours Uh, it would be usually silent. I think or doesn't talk that much while we are basically talking throughout all of it So, um, you know Different people have different compatibility with stuff like that and uh Wouldn't want to force it if it doesn't work out. I'm more than happy to just talk to him about whatever comes out after it comes out I guess Um, this question is who is boogie? Well, I hope the doc you know now. Yeah, I was gonna say I guess I'm sure the stream itself would have answered that question Unless they were like I will not watch until I know Who this boogie is which What can you say just an incredible personality that um has changed lives in many ways By by warning them What can come Um Critical made a funny point the boogie talks like he is a ghost and he's already died except, you know, he isn't dead Yeah, it'll like he um is part of the sort of the perspective that he doesn't have to He wants to be able to have the points of recognizing it and changing but not changing Yeah So, yeah, it would come across as the ghost because that's what they would do. They would be like damn This is what my problem was but I didn't change it and he even has that attitude where he's like, uh, if only I had done this It's like, what do you mean?  Like why would I why would I tackle any of these problems? I could just leave it the way that it is and then that's my only joy in life and then I'll do that until I'm dead It's weird.  I just finished my master thesis and got my a probation as a harm assist I assume this is supposed to be a pharmacist. Um, thank you for accompanying me in all these years Of torture Yeah, I do like the The nature of a harm assist is kind of funny But it's probably a pharmacist, right? We congratulate you congratulations. Do the wrong prescriptions and you're a harm assist I suppose. Yeah, that dream is always there ready to go but um Good for you Master thesis that sounds like it will be tough. You nailed it. Good job. I like the idea there Wasn't he on the uh, Jedi council in episode three? So Free was so funny, uh The idea that someone's completed their master thesis to become a pharmacist that they're like, uh, now to go home and watch the fact I be laughed at I I do like it though I think that's there there's some truth in the idea that you know, this could become of someone's life if they don't you know Become well Yeah That doc was the first time I felt bad for someone but had zero empathy for them. It was hard to watch my rags Hi, it doesn't look strange To describe it It tickles your empathy just a little bit but not like doesn't grab it Uh, it's kind of weird because again, usually whenever I'm watching boogie. It's like, all right. What's your angle? Like what's your uh, what's what's your strategy? What's your goal here? What are you trying to convince people of that is not true? That's yeah That's usually how I view it.  What's what's your What's the trick? Maybe it's similar to a poorly written movie That wants to elicit an emotional response to you and you know what that response should be But you know it's unearned and it's hollow and artificial That's a good way of describing it because yeah, like in a way. He's poorly written in a way. He's he's incredibly well He's a well-written tarot. He's a well-written villain. Yeah There's an interesting uh freedom to that, you know There's uh, it was almost like you could write boogie to do anything and you could contextualize it in some way Matches his systems um Boogie wings movie bob nikocado jim sterling why is it always the fat ones? There's plenty of non-fat hyper cows that they exist. There's like a whole listing. Okay. It's crazy to be a cow It's it's it's a complicated And long journey, but we've got so many blueprints out there at this point that if you really want to become one You you can you can do it with ease. I'm sure I believe in you there was a There was a certain innate humor to fat though, isn't there? You know like of a really really big person That can't really move It's like impossible to move with grace in a sense I think it's just going to be a representative of an aspect of an addictive personality that You know can rep uh can manifest in a lot of other worse ways in their lives. It's almost like um If they've done that then they might you know be more than Ready to do some other things in terms of humiliation In boogie's case doing it on purpose because he's a strange man It's hard to imagine like santa claws right the jolly old st. Nicholas as a skinny thin guy I think it's here's a lol cow. I was like, yeah, no, he's a When there's a skinny guy, it's like in bad santa with like billy bob thought in the system It's just funny on its face, isn't it when santa's not fat because it's hard to imagine him as as anything but fat Uh also thoughts on a free slash independent state of palestine fringy What's that got to do with boogie? Well, I mean someone asked earlier about like a I think a son and whether or not he's uh You know we could do an impression of him. That doesn't have anything to do a boogie either, you know Well, uh next super chat, huh?  Please say yes brick memes In the efat memes channel, they've been Target, they've been doing their emojis over there. They're they're Doing their little emojis.  It's how it goes. I'm I think I'm leaning towards team wood Myself, okay ricks are nice, but I'm really a fan of team wood. What about stone? Stone is stone is pretty cool. I like me some stone Oh, yeah, good to know Francis became the more likeable personality Oof France is pretty annoying as a sonar that he plays. It's hard to separate from him being an annoying person Like when he does a different flavor, oh, yeah the chicken tasted the ears. It's like, all right. Yeah I can't I can't do the boogie voice.  There's nothing humorous about them It's like, oh look he's fat. He speaks weird. Isn't that funny? No, it's not.  So no hard feelings. Oh boy. Where's this gonna go? Rags saying pokemon isn't a strategy game is the equivalent to joseph anderson saying soma isn't a horror game No, no, no, you misunderstood. There's a strategy. It's you use your best attack Oh my goodness That that's a strategy.  Sometimes my best attack doesn't work because i'm a waterman and they're a leafman or something So there you go. So you there you go. That's right. That's a really in-depth A strategic gaming experience. It's really it's really good. It's really good It probably wouldn't line up the same because Joseph is like Going from a sense of like the emotional experience and he's specifically saying like I didn't experience it. So it isn't that It was really weird Whereas i'm going for the actual experience. Well, you're talking about the other side of genre, which is the like whether or not something is an fps or or a RTS or something. It's like well, of course pokemon could Uh classify that way. It's just like okay. Yes, but like If you had a shooter where you shot one bullet once per hour It's like, I mean maybe maybe you call that a shooter. I don't know I was just like, you know at that point. Yeah, I mean if we're gonna be honest like I could make some pretty good and really good arguments for my Battlefield is a strategy game, you know But it's not typically what people mean when they say that word. So saying it and then having to follow that with some Explanation as to why technically their strategy involved doesn't really doesn't really help And if you're just making up definitions for yourself that you then have to share with everyone else after the fact then I mean, I just don't that's not really it's not really helpful in your natural Um, funnily enough though if someone asked me like what is What is pokemon? We're like, uh, I probably call it an rpg The tim based rpg is probably how I put it. Yeah That seems more at strategy game That just doesn't seem that's not what I yeah, that's not what I would go for first Even if we were having conversations about the merits of how much strategy goes into it when I think of strategy I'm thinking of like sieve or age vampires or xcom Um that have very different like core gameplay loops compared to pokemon if it was like pokemon is more about Yeah, it's it's more of like an rpg if there was a description or an adventure game You know because you're going on an adventure through the world leveling up um Yeah, I'd go for rpg over a strategy game It's almost like a turn based collect collection game or I think but there's kind of like You have turn based combat and you're building a party and you you make decisions about who's going to be in your party and What what you what moves they have and you can build those moves in the same way that you Like in an rpg you can choose the traits and like abilities and stuff To me that just but but then this kind of highlights the point that definitions can get blurry because I mean in a certain sense There are strategies or something like call of duty, but you wouldn't call it a strategy game You probably wouldn't even call it a tactics game if you were trying to figure out definitions like down to that detail You just go with what it is principally, which would be first person shooter And I said pokemon. It's yeah rpg Well, I think someone would be like look when I got to brock and my pikachu got annihilated I had to go and Figure out which pokemon i was going to capture in level 11 in order to defeat him and that's strategy he'd be like Technically but if the answer is butterfree all the time, then it's like it's not even that it's anything It's just a matter of time you want to spend that's it like if you want to that's true I mean you just want to grind pikachu's levels. Yeah pikachu could defeat onyx with tackle. So it's like, all right It's uh, yeah, like there is an amount of strategy to water beats fire Fire beats grass grass beats water. There is strategy there, but I mean, I don't know Right, I don't know why like I said one bullet per 10 minutes. Would you call that game a shooter? It's like What else are we doing in it? They're walking around at that point. I think people would say walking simulator Because you consider like what the I mean the way to describe gameplay loops is in a way emergent Like it just it describes due to its mechanics whatever people End up doing in the game because of its mechanics So for instance, maybe you could look at the stuff in the game and be like well because you do this in the game Uh That means it's this kind of game, you know So like if you look at pokemon as an example, what do you do most of the time? Well, you wander around a world and you don't really solve puzzles But in a way you kind of do because the strategy is so simplistic in that game You also might be like, oh, it's it's basically rock paper scissors is and you know what the opponent plays That's essentially a puzzle game Did they use water pokemon then use a leaf one? Did they use a fire one use a water one in a way?  So it's kind of like an an rpg sort of where you make them stronger and give them abilities but it's so Like it's when something becomes so simplified it almost Waters down the genre itself Uh Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just that at the end of the day a game is probably going to be more one thing than another Uh, even though game is obviously going to have overlap It's just like impossible, you know, you can have a first person adventure game First person shooter that's also an adventure game. You can have an rpg. That's also a strategy game You can have a platformer that's also like a puzzle game Um, there's a whole bunch of different overlap. I guess What would you what would you call chess? Right, uh, I would say that chess is a strategy game Yep So chess uh chess being called a strategy game pretty reasonable Right because of the strategies involved in how the pieces move and you have all the board there And in a way chess is essentially two people playing a puzzle game against each other Where the puzzle is constantly changing its shape Based off of where the pieces are and what the next couple moves are and everyone knows what the end state is So describing games with these kinds of words can be a little you know a little uh Amorphous sometimes But generally as long as you use words that people kind of relate to and understand then you know and You should be Gucci I would say that genre is general. I would say genre is way more useful with reference to video games than it is to Narrative because genre is going to probably tell you a lot about what kind of gameplay experience it is Whereas if you tell somebody it's science fiction, it's like well that could mean that could mean anything You know like it it tells you something about probably when it's set and probably what the subject matter is um But as for as for like the specific breakdown of the of like the course of events that could happen in that story It doesn't really tell you a whole lot Um compared to it's a first person shooter. It's like okay. So it's first person pov the primary gameplay loop involves shooting things So it's combat. Um those sorts of descriptions of gameplay are going to be Very important in terms of determining like if it's an experience that you're interested in Um, but I guess the same is kind of true for genre as well um I guess what's interesting is that like what makes a first person shooter good or bad compared to what makes something good science fiction that's like well that's kind of Hmm You know because people can get a bit weird Categorizations of oh well. What is good science fiction is like is there a big difference between good science fiction and good? Good drama in general or like good thriller or good romance um Compared to well, I mean what is it that makes a first person shooter good? It's probably not going to be the same as what makes a uh Real-time strategy game good It's all it's a complicated thing genre. All right. This is prescriptive descriptive How useful is it and how not useful? Is that how blurry is the lines? It's a complicated thing Yeah, not my favorite thing to talk about but you know, you know or whatever um also with Because this happens at some point, but it was a lot earlier the better to Mike clumb actually sent us a super chat saying thank you for reacting to the film. I don't remember that It's just I do yes The and thank you Mike. I appreciate that you had you created quite the uh quite the piece for future generations You made a lot of sacrifices Mike He did you went to boogie's house talked with him and looked him in the eye Got pulled in Yes, uh happy to see our er laugh and talk more. Yeah, what are the odds that this was the episode that really got him going, you know this is Yeah, the amount there was some things we were hearing from over that episode we'd never heard before He was like genuinely horrified by some of the things in the doc No, he was it's just you know compared to Compared to us where we're kind of like boogie law experts almost and uh, he didn't Yeah, some like normal information to a boogie documentarian is is absolutely Mind-blowing to the average person you sort of forget that you're like, oh, right. Yeah, you don't know. Okay. Well That's right. Yeah, you don't know about all of the crazy tales of boogie Uh speaking of disappointing youtubers have y'all heard about gerard the completionist. Yes Yes, we have Very unfortunate. Yeah That's no good I think that story is kind of over too, right because we've had the full story from everybody, which is just that uh Not a very incompetent job was done with the charity to the point where it took a decade for money to probably move from where it's supposed to be to Accumulated it had accumulated over from like 2014 to about, you know, like only Yeah, like the earliest non moved funds came from a decade ago Uh, yeah, and of course people donating with the pretty obvious expectation that that money is going to be going Of the charities fairly promptly maybe not in the same day, but you know, certainly not potentially years later. Yeah Uh, obviously that specific charities were reference of like, oh, yeah This charity and then this charity and then this charity and then it's like, oh, well We're actually thinking about which charities we want to donate it to we haven't made up a mind Yeah, it all just seems pretty uh he um I guess yeah, you're right Like the story is kind of over the the money has now been donated, right? The money is now being donated as far as I'm aware. Yeah I suppose unless there's any legal stuff that happens Wow Technically finished. It's just a matter of the social repercussions Uh, he still gets comments on his youtube channel is about completing his career so Um, because he's kept making videos. I mean as he probably was always gonna do I suppose It is curious like so what will happen ultimately and it's like well the channel will be It'll shrink in terms of people actually supporting it, but You know, there's a steady influx of new people somewhat who get made aware of this and the comment section will always be filled with these mostly memes I'd imagine but It is crazy Just gonna try and move on. I guess that's what you would do. I mean if if there's no more information to tell, you know Well, yeah, I mean if the the story's over it's like well then what what's next what do you do? I was like, yeah, the top comment.  I guess like just trying to yeah, I guess in that sense. Yeah, uh keeping us I'm just like, hey guys super mario rpg It's like Yeah, they're right you scroll back far enough and there's a lot of just images of him on the on the cover Then this happens and then he's just gone That is interesting Uh, and he just done like a video about how shovel knight saved him like emotionally Well, wasn't the meme there that the that he was remaking a bunch of his old videos And that shovel knight was like the one before he would have been done with that as a series of like completing A remake of a bunch of older videos Which again contributes to the whole completionist meme Yes, there's so many memes that you could make with the name the completionist Yeah, I think the thing that killed him was uh all the clips from the conversation he had with mutahar and um Carl yobbs, I think Yeah, I mean especially would like the massive focus on the optics of like well if I don't edit it now it would look bad It's like dude The main the main concern is the money actually getting to the places It needs to be to do the things that the people who don't edit it thought it was going to do That's like the number one thing so getting really obsessed with optics and everything is just um It's it's not great. I mean it just sort of leaves an impression You know about where priorities are because I mean at the end of the day That was what it was all about right is like people donate with the expectation that the money is working You know sometime around when they donate the money and not that it's been sitting in a bank account probably losing interest Losing value because of inflation Um and not actively doing work for research and everything.  That's um, that's really That's really uh, that's really shitty But um, I guess we'll just have to see uh, how the yeah the story unfolds from here I'm assuming that's not the final chapter and the whenever his name comes up people are just like ew Oh, I guess the question is uh, he's actually gonna sue, you know mutahar and uh that call guy Can't see that being a good move That is that would be pretty terrible unless his strategy Was that he had a huge sound legal ground to do it assuming that he could win um The only thing that I could see that happening is if he was essentially taking a total and complete exit from the internet period Which uh, it's seemingly the opposite of what he wants to do. He wants to keep doing what he was doing Yeah, because I think that if he did sue them and was successful people would fucking hate him Yeah, I mean would yeah It doesn't change that people it doesn't change what everybody understands about the situation Which is oh the money was donated and it sat in a bank account for years Like that's what people are upset about so if there's other people finding out about it to Well, it's it's just you know, it how long would it have sat in there if there was no reporting on it It got don't it obviously got donated because there was reporting on it Yeah, um, if not, then who knows how long it would have just sat there. I mean the you know It's not unheard of to think that years and years and years go by still and It just doesn't happen. It just doesn't get to the people who need it Yeah, it's it's it just seems though. I mean it it does seem it's like well, why why did that happen? It's like, I don't know man. It seems like it was just incompetence like that That there's a case of just like even if it's non malicious or non like money grabbing and stuff It's like there's a certain level in competence that cannot be tolerated. Like that's just uh, Insane, especially when we're talking about charity Yeah, um So so closes that chapter presumably we'll see Hopefully um The documentary by june the king is a hundred percent better than his and more honest and he went out of his way to discredit it Funnily enough, I think there is a uh The lolcows episode about that Yeah, so yeah with this one the fudging of numbers how boogie tried to blame shit on the documentarian and It's like I just you just you cannot believe boogie. He is beyond trust. He just well Yeah, the one that was the worst insane was I lost 700 000 on crypto It's like well if you gain it on paper and then you lose it on paper and you return to where you were Nobody nobody's thinking of that as a loss. They're thinking of that as oh, you didn't make any money Well, it's it just paints a different It's yeah, you can you might in his mind. He might consider that a loss But in no way Yeah, exactly in no sane world would someone consider that a loss.  You might have just been like, you know what? I came here with a thousand. Let's just see what happens with a night I'm here for the experience. Then you know there if if you told me You know that if but boogie doesn't have the the fun las vegas experience with No, and his mind would be goddamn. I could have had that money But then I I didn't I didn't make it because I didn't actually cash out Like I didn't sell I didn't I didn't realize my gains and so it's just like this thing of damn I could add a bunch But again if you if you take some money and you're like doubling tripling its value in a year and you don't sell it like You you at best in terms of just like general investment in like the stock market the best that you could really expect Is like 10 per cent per year like if you're if you're doubling or quadrupling your money That's an insane return in a year to just be like, oh, well, you know, whatever. I'll just see how high it goes like Well, when I hear about the 700,000 that he could have potentially made I'm thinking how did you like I would have cashed out long before because to me the idea that it gets to 50 grand 100 200 300 thousand dollars that you're making I I can't imagine Like I'm I'm pretty cautious in a lot of things I I generally err on the side of caution and I show a lot of discretion And I and I'm pretty cautious in a lot of things So when it comes to money like that, I would have cashed out ages ago And I would and if I watched it go up after that, I would just tell myself, you know what? I I played it safe and I still made this huge chunk of money and yeah, sure if I would have kept it I would have made more but you know what I didn't know that at the time. I made a smart Yeah, exactly. I went the route of wisdom and Sometimes it's just how it goes and it's fine. I still made a lot of money But for him to get to 700,000 dollars, I feel like the second that needle starts going down You'd just be like on a hair trigger to sell I assume his perspective was I'm on the verge of this cranking all the way up to like 5 million like any second now And then um, it's just you know, that's just way past the the there's that sort of does to a person's mind Isn't it like Because a lot of people like they get to that that line that the threshold of so much money Like fuck it. It doesn't matter. You know like what to me, right? They're just numbers on the screen You know, I just know me the difference between 300 and 400,000. Like yeah, I know that's a hundred thousand dollar difference It's a big chunk of change But in the way that I see it. I'm like that's just like once you get to a certain point.  Yeah Meanwhile compared to like seeing numbers moved by like thousands or tens of thousands on a screen that it just doesn't have the same I am pretty sure that's uh, because it's something that in terms of like the psychology of buying things credit cards. Yeah Yeah credit cards versus cash When you are writing out your I mean, I don't know if you guys ever regularly use checks to pay for things But it's it's it's not used often now But it still is in some places, but I I suppose I'm I was kind of on the tail end of it I'm I'm talking to you like I'm your fucking grandpa But uh, but I was on the end of you know, kind of using checks Semi regularly where I used to pay like rent for an apartment in a check where I'd fill it out write it out And I would you know give it to him and having to write that number two different ways Both numerically and writing it out, you know in text or forking over cash That bills physically in your hand that you're giving someone it's a lot psychologically It's a lot more um Indicative of you are losing something you're giving something away Not not just in the physical reality of you are literally giving someone bills of money Or you are literally giving someone a check with numbers written on them But when you have like a debit or credit card you swipe it on a machine Put it's you know, no cash back pin number take it back and it goes back in your wallet It doesn't feel like you physically lost anything because you haven't you you it's still where it is You still have the card in your wallet. It's still yours. You haven't given away anything It is interesting to think about um, there's a lot of books on psychology and money That would be kind of the thing You know if boogie was to do all over again and have some advice to be like, you know It wouldn't hurt to read a book on investing You know, it probably wouldn't hurt to uh to do that but uh, well, that's too late now You'll totally do that a hundred percent. I'm sure he would yeah Um in the words of michael from the office. No god, please dough dough I don't know what part we're up to now Yeah, it could be any of it Uh, er you'll never see the super chat, but god bless you for your latest video.   I don't know much about wait for uh for Wings on windows. I don't know about that. I don't know about the Like he breaks his monitors because I know about him throwing shit at monitors Which is like I explain it if you guys didn't follow He's referencing the two window collections and now he's inventing a third one of four wings because that would be funny Oh, we we know about movie bobs soda can collection Oh Collecting windows when you said that I was like, I mean, I guess if you want, you know, but Well, you could collect all of the versions of windows, you know, 95 98 more in addition xp and everything and then you can Different languages for places around the world and yeah, that's the operating system collector. Yeah It's uh the the clip of The one with with waves thrown his controller like he throws it forward And then he just looks at his screen for a second like that cracked it And he did Of all the places to throw a controller because I I understand that there's this this Bestial basal part of your psyche that just wants to destroy something in rage And if it's your own stuff, you know if I Controllers are expensive.  Yeah 4k at the start This clip was for a while ago, too Yeah, this was like 20 16 27 saying something so we're talking Expensive 400 minimum. Yeah, at least 400 something like that Because if it's relatively small and 60 hertz 4k still Normally he does throw it backwards. He uh, he's very practiced in the art of throwing his controller in a fit of rage And to think if you are if if you were doing the persona of an angry gamer, right?  I can't imagine Uh, I can't imagine. No, I can't imagine throwing something throwing something is easy for like I feel like I could throw something if I got so pissed off I I I I got a bag of almonds here or I got a tube to chapstick. I've got some a couple Coins, you know, like I can imagine throwing something like that But I can't imagine grabbing something Like a controller.  Let's see a big piece of advice that I got early on to make videos better Um I mean I learned pretty early on And this is reflected in the constant advice that we give when we are asked this question Having a good microphone really is one of the most important things you could probably do It is very important to have a good the large portion of the audience that don't even care what visuals you have at all Yes, no matter what you're doing a lot of yeah a lot of the times video is going to be second screen content They're going to be multitasking. They're going to have the video playing while they lay in bed You know going to sleep or while they're cooking dinner or while they're just lounging around on their phone tapping away Or while they're playing a game so and I'm not we're not saying visuals aren't important, of course, but One thing that is going to be virtually guaranteed is that people will hear their video The point should be made clear when you say reverse it like if you focus entirely on visuals and nail it It's the most amazing visuals ever you have one of the worst voices ever that video is getting uh tripled If you have a good speaking voice and a good microphone and your visuals are shit But you're giving good information People will stick around yeah, and I think people get a sense of like we've seen that a lot People will get a sense of uh, it'll improve Meanwhile with bad voice they'll be like, oh But you can't improve a bad voice You you can absolutely there are literal voice coaches that teach people how to sing and how to speak There are accent coaches and it's in the credits of a lot of movies and things of that nature You can improve the way that you speak it just takes practice and dedication and you know the way that you speak is It's physiological. It's something you can train something you can practice It's you know, it's like doing a whole bunch of push-ups all the time. You'll get stronger It's the same general idea It might take a bit more focus because speaking is such a natural part of our existence and It's this idea that you don't really give it any thought Um, but once you sort of I guess hone in on it and realize that it's something you want to change It could turn out to be something really good Don't give up. Don't despair I don't like it when people say I just have a you know terrible voice or something I could do A lot of people say they have way better voices than the people who are making videos sometimes Yeah, it's true And maybe if you have a bad voice you say, you know, do you just chat? Yes, it and lean into it as part of a character or whatever I mean, that's what yms has done after all Uh, you know, he does the that the the flat monotonous kind of voice You know, I don't I don't particularly enjoy that but he plays it to you know, make videos and it works well for his style of delivery And if you have a flat and relatively monotonous voice and a lot of people don't actually have monotonous voices, but you know, uh, but that can help to accentuate when you want to actually show Um, uh Well, you really want to stress some sort of emotion or exaggeration Because a lot of people have the opposite problem where constantly they are throwing their voice in such a way as to imply incredible Exaggeration, but it becomes overplayed and you can't really tell what it is that they're trying to exaggerate It's kind of like if someone swears far too much If you swear too much then you run out of Words that you can use to express the extremes of how you feel And that's something that I think I need to work on is luckily this hasn't bled into real life But on the internet a lot of us have a tendency to swear a whole lot We drop the you know the f bombs and what not all the time, but I think it's probably Good for me to try and work on chilling in that regard so that when I really want to use it It's got sting I still remember there's been one time in my life where I heard one of my aunts say the f bomb In regards to something and it was it must have been at least like 15 years ago a long time and I still remember where I was when it happened in the context of when it occurred so It's just something for consideration Um, what is what's the answer for you guys? I was like 50 50 on that one anyway, but I'll add to it as well that uh They don't prepare you at all for public relations or for understanding how to react to criticism Slash brigading slash like really harsh like even you know kill threats and start death threats So how should you react to all this is a blanket term? It's like try not to look into any of it in the same way you would if someone said it to you face to face Because it's not the same Yeah, people don't communicate with each other on the internet and through comment sections in the way that they would you know In the flesh it's it's just sort of it's it's a different world the internet in a way Yeah, and and people Just humans behave very differently when they believe they're completely anonymous slash. There's no repercussions. That's what they say Yeah, and in a way, that's both the the great and terrible thing about the internet. You have to take it as it is um That's just sort of the just sort of the nature of the beast You know You guys are you gonna saddle it or let it trample you? It's kind of up to you Keep it in mind don't let it destroy you something I would say is that it's worthwhile to not almost psychologically trap yourself into A niche that doesn't interest you or that limits you in some way um, something I've always noticed is that It never really made sense to me why someone would choose to be like a youtuber or something I I can at least understand that one in the sense of call of duty is probably never going to end So there's always going to be stuff to talk about but then there are other times when it's like if you lock yourself into A series that ends.  What are you going to do now? Um, and then there's also a matter of you could just like without even realizing kind of end up Only talking about certain types of things and then that can create expectations in an audience For things that you should or shouldn't cover Or that there's only so much that you can or cannot do And you see people talk about how you know that it's limiting and it makes them depressed And I feel like they can't make what they want to make And if it seems to me that it's important to always have the attitude of well I want to make what interests me and you know, whatever like if that's Like don't get too Don't get too obsessed with like views and stuff because that just seems to I don't know that that just doesn't seem conducive to a Healthy attitude and approach to creation if you're constantly obsessed with like analytics and it's just what people want to see Or is this what I ought to be doing is this is this, you know, trendy or anything like that You don't want to turn yourself into like a slave to Just nebulous vague trends and algorithms and things like that. You you always want to be focused on What is it that you are actually interested in? Creating and talking about and doing Yeah, make the kind of content that you enjoy and have an interest in Be willing to change your content if your preferences change, which they very likely will Because you change as time goes on You know if there's a subject you have nothing to say on that's fine. You don't have to talk about it It's fine. I mean just in general like on the internet. It's okay to not have super strong immediate opinions on everything Because a lot of people have had to eat a lot of words because They spoke way too quickly and way too strongly about something that they just learned about seconds before It's funny. This might sound funny to come in from us considering that that's we talk all the time But seriously, you don't have to it's okay to say I have no opinion on this Or I don't know The more the more that we can say I don't know like in general, I think the better off we all be and we just be like I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know and I keep trying to remind myself of that as well It's like it's okay to just say I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a opinion on that EFAP for the killer when we don't have anything planned because uh, we just never did but uh There's no not nothing to say that there wouldn't be something in the future for the killer in some way to perform maybe Do it. No. A lot of times we just watch movies because we really like watching movies and sometimes a movie is really good And we just don't do an episode on it. You know, we didn't do one for Oppenheimer. We haven't done one for the killer and there's plenty of other examples. We didn't do one for barbie That's right. We didn't do one for barbie and that was a movie Yeah, there's actually that's kind of funny because we're talking about like Covering trends and stuff is like we don't cover so many popular films. We just uh It's really on it's always about where our interest lies. Yeah Um, I should be like see your interest lies with Aquaman 2 and it's like a little bit We are tracking the dc universe quite a bit And some things are just Something like Aquaman 2 is just silly.  So in a way, it's fun to talk about How you know that in its own way Uh talking about batman and robin is really fun Um, but there are some movies that are really good That just have different vibes when you talk about them, I suppose and you could appreciate them for how good they are But sometimes it's just you know, you just you know chat a bit afterwards It's a good reference for you to use a good thing to recommend, but it's not really like Multiple hour long discussion level kinds of stuff. Mm-hmm Uh Stay strong chaps. This one's gonna be a tough one. It was and we made it It was tough Um Would you rather live in a huge house with a small plot of land or a small house with a huge plot of land Five and 15 square miles respectively Small house and huge plot of land Wait, sorry. What was the size? Five and 15 square miles respectively Five miles of land square miles But does that mean does that mean the on the other one you get 15 miles house or 15 square mile land? Um, I assume is what that means. Yeah, but all of that is said respectively So meaning the other one is a what a 15 square mile house Um I at that point I just get the house and sell it Yeah, but both of these seem like they'd be really difficult to manage I figured it was going to be because I would say yeah, I'd be cool with a small house and like a like an acreage or something or I uh, you know, like Yeah, because I'd be cool with some land I'm cool with land too, but like not the kind that I can't take care of probably.  That's that sounds like that you matter where you are It it might not take any management whatsoever like literally Yeah, you are that might require immense management like if you live in a bushfire prone area There's a lot of management that you would need to do to make sure that your whole property is like prepared in case there's a bushfire That happens, you know, like controlled burns and stuff like that Um, of course, it depends. Yeah. Yeah, I The land that the actual size is kind of, you know, that's the thing the house and probably not gonna live in it though Yeah, but in terms of a more general thing of oh, would you want to like a you know A massive mansion, or would you rather have a normal house on like a like an acreage or a couple of hectares? I'd probably go for the pass on a couple of hectares. It's just yeah I'd much rather within the spirit of the question being yeah, would you have a small house on a lot of land or a big house and not much land? I definitely have a small house on a lot of land Yeah Yeah, because well, that's that's how I would address the spirit of the question is by selling this 15 square mile house and then getting A reasonably sized house at a reasonable amount of land with it, you know Yeah, well, yeah, it's just a reasonable amount of land You can have a you can you can get some like sheep or some llamas You can get big chicken coop.  That's that sounds pretty cool. Honestly Yeah, I mean and even it was if it was if you did nothing with it It was if it was just land out there Then it would still I think even if you did like I said nothing with it And it's just essentially wilderness apart from the road in and out of your place I mean, I would like that. You know, I would still like that that would be something that I actually, you know like Said I would like that I would like that that would be something I would like Boy would I like it. I think you'd like I guess I would think it was just literally lost in thought just kind of imagining What you're imagining the kind of land it was especially if it had like a like a big old pond on it Or if it was like a river ran through it Something you know something of that nature. That'd be great Don't cry for me. I'm already dead boogie gumbel Hey, don't compare boogie to barney Barney is an artist You have to take it up with that guy. I guess he's uh, he feels it's appropriate And again, barney is somebody who I actually just fully feel bad for rather than Rather than whatever it is the complicated. Well, not even complicated. They're pretty simple feelings towards boogie. I don't like him But barney is an art. Well boogie respects you for me. He respects you Yeah Hi, bro. It's got the coup failure this week and I've been feeling pretty bad But after watching this with you guys, I don't feel so shitty anymore. Hope you guys have a good day such evening and stay healthy Oh, we'll do. Thanks much. Hope you guys are feeling better soon. You're feeling better now, hopefully. Um, oh, yeah Here in norway, I have to show that you lose some weight before they let you have a gastric bypass I think that's how it works everywhere That's what I've heard. Yeah, I think sorry. Yeah, because yeah, I think sorry Boogie had to lose weight that that's a show they could commit to a diet, which is funny because then they don't afterward like But I mean what more can you do as a as doctors? You're like, well Yeah, what point is it just it's your money to throw away?  You know, it's not like an easy fix of your stomach smaller or good, you know, like there's no change required Uh hunger game prequel is my new favorite Aunt script is rock solid cause and effect and or level will building and character work even zeegler is tolerable Which was shocking.  Absolutely Uh because I was just thinking to myself like yeah, I don't even know what anyone's opinions on that movie are because I don't think anyone saw it It did it did it. Oh, how did it do on the box office? Anyone know I think it ended up doing okay It uh didn't have a great debut, but it didn't drop much so kind of had long legs All right And then they say hg bourbon snack is good rat hg bourbon snack bourbon snack hg bourbon snack Yeah, I don't know what that is. No, they do I I'm not sure look. I'm missing something obvious, but there we are Um, I really like your show had to buy another super chat apparently I'm not very good at condensing my thoughts to accommodate a character limit I tend to ramble if only I was similar to and it just cuts off Oh my goodness. Well, I'm glad you like the show though. I'm glad you had a good time I think a lot of people had a good time. That was a very enjoyable e-fap So it's a highly rate episode that one poor boogie Poor boogie looking into the life, you know staring through that window At least movie bob calls it a small meal The noble goldfish Where I could stay confined to limitations placed before me unfortunately I have the habit of outgrowing my bowl. Perhaps I'll be able to shorten my chats in the future too And then they got cut off again. Oh, no. Oh, jeez. No, it happened again. Yeah, it's unfortunate. Oh, no Guys got really terrible luck Uh, it feels as though in the 25th century america was built specifically for boogie The uh, it's hard to imagine how he would have existed in a different time, you know Sometimes you run across those people particularly on the internet Well, it's kind of like how are you because both ways in the sense that it's like he wouldn't survive Then it's like well, no, he wouldn't have existed as in like he wouldn't be able to get that fat and useless Like he it wouldn't have happened Yeah, like he was one in the 1900s.   Yeah But yeah, it's like the environment doesn't exist to create an entity like boogie We asked you to watch the whale and not the boogie dark mullamel sad also high rags Oh, yeah, we didn't even cover the whale on a on an episode even though we're all very Yeah, I was one of the best movies of the year. It was very good Accommodate these restrictions. I suppose we will see all also high as wringled and metal Well, that was short and sweet hashtag a long man. Yes. I typed out the word hashtag because we're long here Yes, we are That is a long way in typing out hashtag is to type it out Uh, can we have a sex dungeon in the attic? I'm feeling that doesn't Maybe I mean Technically no, but like I guess generally. Yes. I'll allow it but like, you know, we like them to be lower level rather than in the attic Feels appropriate, but it's just a different vibe. Yeah, the attic dungeon is like You know, it's fine. Well, like I said, we'll allow it Because we're kind gods I showed this video to someone who doesn't use youtube near the end. She asked are they trying to make him look worse And I was just like that's just him They're trying to make him look worse. We're just reacting. I don't know what else to say Uh, my current favorite content creators reviewing the downfall of someone I used to enjoy We truly are in the best timeline hashtag get steven on efab Oh, because his name is steven williams, right? Yeah Man, no no offense at all to anybody with these names because it's not not at all the problem But it's a very generic name. Isn't it steven williams steven williams is It is a very john smith kind of name. Yeah He's um boogie is the average man Like no, he's not like okay, fair enough Uh, my current favorite. Oh, yeah, he's like that girl from signs, but with mountain dew What was the thing with the girl with water and signs? Oh, I don't remember. I do not remember at all Was she allergic or did she just collect them? I can't remember. It's something weird with water and then There was like a thing at the end where she was like, oh, I did it afraid of it hydrophobic Don't remember You're a huge science fan.  Um, it Well really for me to for me to say it here would sort of defeat the purpose of the You wouldn't want to explain it because then the intent of the artist to discover it in a natural sort of venue You know as he designed it it requires the context that is itself to To truly comprehend and I would maybe we should check out his review of signs after watching it and see what he says Let's forget a video on it.  Hmm It's almost even bonnel It's even okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's not you thought he shared a name with boogie If you all quit Brothers in arms He really would be like the anti boogie Yeah, I mean there's there's there's similarities in the opposite direction. I suppose or something. There's a word for that. I'm sure inverse During co vid I got my act together built Cabinetry and moved to the other side of the world unless someone unless someone rip co vid excuses are silly To like not travel. Yeah, I mean Try to do anything. Yeah I mean, uh It's most like how are things in the world right now for like co vid? Where I'm at like people have given up on co vid restrictions. Oh, we get we didn't yeah It's kind of funny a lot of places You go to there are like these dusty posters about the way you should act during co vid time or whatever, but the it's kind of like a movie set of uh Trying to imply like the old times the old world that has since been grod over Like wear a mask wherever you go and there'll be a bunch of people in front of it Just like not wearing masks and be like there you go All the times they are a changing What was he saying he built like a cabin was it? I guess uh a cabinet. Oh Which is impressive though somewhat slightly less so but still impressed. Yeah, because some Cabins could have a cabinet in it, which you know at that point is more impressive Yes Yeah, because I think there I was thinking this is kind of like Henry David Thoreau or something built like a cabinet in the woods or something like that Cabin in the woods the movie. No not cabin in the woods cabin in the woods Walden a Walden No, not waldron waldon Michael waldron Massachusetts the pond in mass Uh Oh, I'm I'm gonna grab a drink real quick up He's gonna and me and fringy are gonna allow that the kind Yeah, um, I can't exactly reach through the internet and stop him Well, we could but we choose not to because we're very powerful Oh, I don't I don't have your I don't know if I have those lovecraft in powers or anything Well one day and uh, we could always pay someone to do it and uh Let's travel we will pay mal to do it Uh, yeah, they said play party animals, which I think that's already died down as a fad game Which by the way, no insult to fad games. I feel like we play a lot of them anyway But the if we're doing anything like that we usually go with gartic phone because Gartic phone is fawning as fuck, which we need to do sometime soon. If I would say hopefully Um question for the panel. Do you think boogie is happy? Probably not No Probably hyper restless always wondering Whether he can make some easy change to make his life a lot better Uh, yeah, I think he is in a state of constant wanting. He's like the um Oh, damn. I can't remember exactly what it was but the idea of the the Damn it was it's a concept like the fat ghost or something But I don't know if that's quite right But yes, I think he was in a place of constant wanting That just feels like a really unfortunate thing because that's like, you're the fat ghost.  No, it's it's the idea or I think it's the hungry ghost is the the term I can't remember exactly what it Hold on. I need to because I think that might be describing it. Um Uh, yeah, like it's it's a it's a concept in uh in buddhism. Yeah The hungry ghost representing beings who are driven by intentional needs in an animalistic way um It's uh It's I I don't remember. I remember hearing about the concept before but but the point being in in boogie's case is that Yeah, I get the impression that he's um He's not contented because I mean look look at the situation lives and right like he doesn't work a regular job He doesn't have to do that much work to make an amount of money that can essentially keep him afloat he um he he plays video games and Eats a lot of food and everything he lives in his big house And it's like and yet and yet there are still like this sort of overwhelming sense of Want you know wanting things and wanting and especially the whole thing of wanting people to think that he's awesome Well, yeah, and and I seems to be that everyone agrees on that part of his personality And the only way he's avenues got for consistently making money now is making an ass of himself So How do you think that what do you think that does to his brain? Uh, yeah, like the the idea of having you know, like lull cow ride as a as a thing or Getting on his knees saying i'm sorry daddy keem stuff Like, you know, that's uh, that ain't great. So um, yeah I I got the but I guess I guess maybe in the lens of like, do you think that he's unhappy in the way that he often presents?  It's like, oh, that's just Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, all right My eyes I have a feeling we'll get a decent chunk of them today Uh, my favorite part was when he said it's boogie time and boogied all over the mountain do Oh, yeah, you should also play ddlc doubles Could all more be um I'm typing with one hand now lol good for you That's a that's a talent. All right. Don't anyone tell you different Pre willy because he's masturbating to the boogie documentary. Some people might All right fair enough Challenge mode. Um, thank you for showing us that tweet more along I'm not sure which one you're talking about but yes Once I'd show it again Again, I'm not sure which one Peak e-fap here's money Thank you Very off topic, but I'm glad for the tism is gradually entering the common parlance The tism it should as well as fleam I'm happy to know that I played a role in Making tism part of a common parlance Uh, I'd say it's probably one of the most important changes to the english language If not the number one, I don't know if I'm stepping over some bounds here, but it feels like it is Tism is the e-fap what you don't know burritos are to mexicans like it's it's a really it's a big part of our culture In our identity. Yeah, like if we had a theme park tism world would be like one of the bigger sections Yeah There'd be a whole stole just selling chickpea grumbau and it would be funny if nobody liked it, but they had to for the beam It's so gross, but I love it I it's like a rite of passage like if it was a if it was a wonderful pleasurable thing then it wouldn't be You know like the the test of a true devotee. Yes Because with each chickpea grumbau you get like a ticket that gets you into the next area Who divides a very big system? Yeah Apparently arcane season two was announced. Anyway, my birthday's on tuesday and it sure will be great gift to get a garlic phone stream soon rag Oh Well, I I'm more than happy to do them. I enjoy that game a lot. It always brings me joy I can't imagine why we would and we'll set it up and yes arcane season two end of the year. That's what we're Exciting to expect You don't win friends with salad true Simpsons, uh a little bit of advice As of mola golem precious edition has a black friday discount on psn and it cost 28 dollars. Should I buy? That's just a different 25 bucks. It's not worth that. They should pay you to buy it Precious edition. I uh, if you want to meme yourself Or with friends perhaps, but it has to be has to be cheaper than that now, right? Like If it's still being sold Which uh, yeah, I mean it must be cheaper than that. Surely maybe on that steam. Uh, well, I was about to say summer of winter sale embarrassing that they You you you'd want to scrub that from your resume, you know Lead developer on golem. Well, wait, what were you working on for the last four years? Oh, you know my life Like I just figured out nothing much, you know, I went on a bit of a spiritual journey Ooh with flaming star I don't well, I don't know if it's anything, you know, too dramatic. Maybe it was like, I don't just On hiking or something. That was his name, right the shaman Oh, yeah He was like an amateur shaman or something like that Wow, he was professional. He got oh, okay. All right. Yeah, that wasn't the joke was that he may okay I forgot if he was a professional or an amateur. No, he was a professional shaman Yeah, it's kind of insulting to say otherwise because he uh Honestly, I guess I expected more from a professional Well, when he said, um Existence just on its own. I was like shit, man.  Isn't it crazy to think something so powerful could come from the ground Many things that we consume Many doesn't even cover it's almost like it feels like almost all things come from the ground somewhat. I mean Like trees mountains all food, but basically all food Gemstones literally diamonds is the most durable substance that we have Well, he's trying to be profound not realizing what he said was really stupid Who was actually like, oh Well, that's why that's the professional shaman not saying anything.     Would it would it could erupt in such a way that it could do serious damage to you? I would imagine it would just shoot up your uh Shoot up your I wonder if because um, I assume it would just come back up, right? It would it would just the pressure for sure But I was just thinking like could you drown from the fact that they would just non-stop foam and stuff and you wouldn't be able to Like get a chance to breathe It was actually gonna be something I mentioned It was about to mention was yeah, that would be my concern is whether or not you died of suffocation Damn and the sad fact is the fact that I've just considered like someone's god I've done that haven't they and that means someone's probably died from it too Well, yeah, because I mean, you know, you know what the thought is it's like, oh, yeah, coke and mentos. That's some like crazy reaction What if I swallowed it? Because that's how that's how the human brain works. What if I swallowed Was the thing in it one mento and doing it It's like I could see them like being maybe funny But if someone did like 20 mentos and then started down in a liter of coke It's like I wonder If that would have terrible results I don't know probably not gonna try it myself, you know, I'm just not that kind of guy In 1993 Mario movie would be great for new fat movies. This proves sarin is the traitor is a traitor We're probably gonna do the Mario movies back to back at some point. Not sure when Yeah, that'd be an interesting pair because I hear there's so much to like. Yes, very similar Moloch you still have plans to finish your tfa series.  There really are I I think a lot of people at this point be like you've obviously stopped it. It's like, no And I really haven't I don't know what else to tell you sometimes like Uh, I'd say friggy out of everyone's gonna have the most insight into how projects on my end Uh, uh continued made or come up with sort of thing and it's just all I could say it's some of it's it's a nightmare Um It to try and explain exactly how and why everything starts middles and ends is I'd rather just you guys know about the final projects because there's no point in Wining every day about all the horrors that happened. It's it's dead. It's like here you go. Here's something here's something here's something And so yeah, it's being worked on not necessarily right now For even in the last few months or even in the last few years But maybe might be who knows um Okay chat just the obligatory magic is a great game and boogie is not reflective of all of us posts Someone had to plus cash to a long man.  It's not 1974 And being a nerd is actually kind of like a socially outcast thing to do It's current year.  It's like, what do you think of keari mundi?  Was he in uh, was he in deep space nine and you're just like, yep, he sure was You know your stuff. I gotta go not to say that you can't have gaps in your knowledge Just that a lot of people the word is tourist. I think it kind of summarizes it really well The one who pops in just to be like, I like I like the vibes. I don't really care about the ip but I like the vibes you know, yeah That's sort of uh, the the term tourist. I guess it's starting to really stick I don't know if I like it is a term though. I do so so on it What do you not like about it? Here's my here's my thinking, right? I'm thinking was like isn't like what is a tourist, right? Well a tourist Is someone who goes to a place?  I got where you are because the key is that they don't stay Oh, do they not? Yeah, the whole point is that the the ip can't make money because they don't support it They they come and then they leave They usually do a significant amount of damage to it before they leave Okay, which isn't necessary with with with tourism But like tourism can be destructive to the areas sometimes that it runs in a lot of locals can be really annoyed with tourism And I think that's what it's trying to evoke Like we're all sitting there talking about what they want to do is and we just end up catering to what they have at home When the whole point is they shouldn't yeah, we get lots of lots of dumb shit happens And then you're like thanks and then they will leave and you're like great. Well, we're still here Thanks a lot You get that meme of like the little house where everyone's partying and some guy comes in says can I join everyone's like?  It's the delirium boss, which he probably never reached lol All right, well when he was like, oh, yeah, look at me. I'm a big binding of isaac fan It's all just sad memories for him because it was all back when all he had to do was play games And he would get merchandise and support from the surrounding communities all the people that were involved in creating them Because he was that big when you're that big they're going to be people who like I mean If we were like the biggest film people ever for a decade and we had no controversies We would have met all kinds of crazy industry people but You know like You can only look back on that when you fail and and just be like man On the subject of happiness and boogie. That's one of his big problems is that he is constantly comparing himself to where it was in the past Constantly like I used to be the big I used to be so big not Not just literally but you know on a more metaphorical sense.  Why why was he has no he has no interesting insight into video games He just plays them.   There's a stool nearby for when there's just no one around and they just need to That is not the case here. There are no stools or chairs at all. It is standing the whole time Well, I think that a lot of the technically, uh, a lot of these places don't want you to Maybe have them or have them around but it's just a natural part of like we're human beings I just need a place to sit for a bit or you know get off my feet So you have people who have the um Like they have the little like rubber pads or the little rub the cushions that they stand up They stand on which sort of helps we can get for like your kitchen and everything You know where you stand you get pretty normal stuff It's just that was definitely those but like in any shop that you go to that there's no chairs Like if you're working in retail, you're standing you are standing And a lot of it is because they do move around Um, there is an instant amount of moving about you need to move things around You need to maybe go out and help people with stuff. You got to grab stuff move it here and move it there Um, so part of it as well is if you're like serving at a checkout standing while packing everything Uh, it just kind of like it's it's easier and and better and Then then if you're sitting down sitting down is more comfortable, but standing up is just like more Effective essentially for like basically any given task that you'd be doing in retail Boogie should try dressing up as Dennis Nedry Who is that? Oh, that's uh from uh, damn Right, it's okay. It's okay Taking Dennis Dennis Nedry. Is that a simpsons character? Wrong I can kind of buy it though Dennis Nedry uh breaking bad. We have covered the movie. He's from on e-fap. Yeah Right it's a movie that made you believe Oh, you told me about Jurassic park Made it too obvious for you Which one was he because I remember the characters is not the name.  Yeah You didn't say the magic word There's an acting job for everybody. Well, yeah, he was on Seinfeld has a recurring character. He was in space jam Yes, he was he was I liked Dennis Nedry. He was in basic instinct Yes, he is a policeman Rags have you seen basic instinct? I have not seen basic instinct. You're having the joke in the simpsons with grass. Yeah. Yes.  It's like I'm gonna shoot you This is your final warning I'm surprised I would have thought Rags would have seen basic instincts but fair enough I know of it, but I have not actually seen it Good old gay actor Michael Douglas is in there. He's not very gay in the movie though And uh showering stone Yes, the stoner nater is indeed in that one Also from total recall also catwoman Yes She didn't play catwoman if she was in catwoman. Yes So boogie's naturally a soy boy figures Are they talking about his uh, he's got low tea or something, right? Uh, oh Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's a repercussion of that was on his list That's right. Was that was that an obesity repercussion or is that something else? I think I think it can be an obesity repercussion. I used to casually say obesity repercussion I think I think it is That was the point a lot of people make with the large he lists the thing as if god himself is smited boogie When a lot of them are just the family tree of obesity Yeah, exactly. It's like obesity generates many many many many many health problems It's uh, yeah Because even asthma like asthma is a kind of thing that can get better or worse depending on your lifestyle Is it when they call it comorbidity or something when you have something that just it makes other things way worse? Uh, I think what's comorbidity mean? The simultaneous presence of two or more diseases or medical conditions in a patient Uh Kind of like how if you got if you were smoking, right you could have like lung cancer You could also have Emphysema isn't that the one that just makes it difficult to breathe Uh, fuck. I can't remember the he has all of it. I think but yes Yeah, his list was huge. Um, but when someone says like I've got, you know, heart disease cardiovascular issues hypertension hyper-cholesterol and diabetes like you just said the same thing essentially four times in terms of Why you have all those issues Yeah, and that's why in the same way that again if you list of like lung cancer emphysema gangra. Well, I don't know how many smokers actually get I think gangrene is a risk though from smoking Um, you know all the shit that they put on the uh on the on the packaging Oh, well, I don't know if they even do that america. Is that something they do in america where they put like pictures over here The shit they have to put on smoking stuff is Is insane, um It's probably normal Yeah, it might be normal But it's like it it's nuts the amount of stuff that the warnings and things You I know at the come and go where I get my gas and snacks and whatnot behind we're right above There's a big sign right above all the cigarettes that basically says smoking kills more people than car crashes suicide alcoholism cardio whatever like enlist this massive list of things about how deadly smoking is and how it kills you So much and it's just like this big sign right on top of all the cigarettes and it's That does sound because what we have here is that you can't see them that any any cigarettes have to be like behind Doors like a cabinet so you can't see them and okay because here it's not the it's not that way here I think it america would be chiller than britain and australia the thing is even when you open it up It's plain packaging.  It's so deadly And then you look at those those ads from the 50s doctors recommend smoking a packet Didn't like almost all the malboro men die of like cancer or something like that Uh, maybe yeah, I think they did all I know is that smoking has been murdered at this point Yeah, oh pretty much. Yeah, it's uh, well, I mean you can still find it We'll do it though. Yeah, yeah, you can still find it but like it's just I feel like especially Our three sort of age ranges we went from seeing it being hyper proliferated to almost been completely sequestered to like Oh, it was We had uh, we had something it was it was like, uh, it was a bus that would come around to school Where they would just talk to you essentially about smoking No, no, it's like it's a bus that would come around and I had like a cartoon mask on it It was all about like the dangers of alcohol and smoking and drug abuse like dare over there You know dare I've not heard of that, but maybe it's similar. It's basically just an education thing of smoking. Yeah Drugs are terrible and you know, yeah, yeah, it was like, um, it was like that staff park joke with a guy's butt out Yeah, yeah, give that cigarette by the throat But out. Whoa. Whoa smoking's got to go Do you remember um Community episode where they like accidentally make drugs cool because they're so bad. Oh, yeah, that's fine because pierce It ain't a party without drugs And then the little kid's like, I love you drugs And then chag comes out. He's like, I'm drugs like no, you're not. He's like, yes, I am I'm the the truth.  You got it. Yeah, you gotta find a way around that That one is just like, yeah, that's not just tell tell us how the terrible ways it will kill It's it's pretty funny because the south park episode on smoking is um, way more complicated in terms of its It's uh, the stance essentially on smoking Compared to a you know, obviously a lot of the media that was kind of parroting But I mean even in that they started smoking because they didn't want to be lame like the people who were doing that And then like they started vomiting up like goo and everything Like it was a miserable experience.  My uh grandmother's whole house was just yellow All the walls were yellow all the statues she had We're kind of neat, but they're all yellow.  Yeah I have not seen that. That's fascinating Well, yeah, I wonder if I I kind of lucked out with these experiences in terms of just being completely put off smoking from really early on It wasn't it wasn't the packages and it wasn't people telling me it was bad.  I never really had anyone in our family I can't I can't think of anyone in our family who smoked so I never saw a relative smoking Which was you know very good for me that that wasn't there Um, my dad used to do tobacco years ago. He used to do chewing tobacco. Yeah chewing tobacco And he one day decided I asked him how he how he finally got off of it You know, what did he do to get off to the chewing tobacco and he said well I just kind of decided this is really bad for me and I don't want to use it anymore So I took the pack that was in my, uh, pocket I threw it in the trash can and I just I just quit and it was tough and it sucked but I mean That's how I got over it. I was like, all right One of the uh, the ads I've seen lately is you save money.  Wow a pack of cigarettes here will be like 30 bucks 30 Yeah, it'd be really expensive. God damn Well, remember Australia used monopoly money, so Oh, yeah, that's true. Um, but like if you're spending six USD a day on feeding an addiction, right?  I mean Let's say just say let's say six and be conservative after tax Well, it means about 1800, you know $2,000 a year Yeah, 2200 bucks a year and that's if you're just on one pack a day A lot of people are more than that just can wait and and not just the monetary cost of 100 bucks a year on just feeding an addiction But the time that it takes to smoke a pack a day that's got to take you a couple hours To go through a pack of cigarettes I guess it does I like I'm so out of the loop on smoking.    Okay Like yeah, give me a compulsion like why can't I be addicted to? I don't know. There's so many there's got to be way better things to be addicted to That like at least give you something something that makes you feel amazing Well, I suppose smoking does when you get super addicted to it, but that's kind of the deal, isn't it? They're taking sort of sanity and satisfaction away from you to begin with and they give it back the more you smoke So but you never feel like I've never seen someone smoking and they they seem happy. No You know, they just seem like neutral except in like movies is their life now Yeah, where they take a big drag off of a cigarette and they're like, ah I don't like it.    It isn't good clean air It's generally pretty bad for you bodies like Not to extend it too far, but to you guys um because I was on the tail end of it By the way, don't feel targeted smokers and vapors. You know, it's all the same Well, we love you and you're wonderful people like we'd say the same for alcohol Even though we drink it we'd be like don't be getting into that. You know too much and stuff Yeah, don't oh, yeah.  No, it's like no, no, no, no, no It's filthy, but you're not filthy as a person Just the inside of your lungs and your throat and all the mucus and Cancer, you know giving awfulness that you're putting into yourself You should quit smoking. Please Please quit smoking because we want to have you around for a long time.   You can't watch us review rebel moon pot two if you're dead That's right.   What's that happening for your help? Yes. Yeah. No, like you use a lighter to light your cigarette Yeah, oh thank goodness. You can't tell though.  Yeah Zippo, I feel like they're they feel like a texas instruments kind of company where they make graphing calculators For kids in school and they also make Anti-tank javelin missiles.   It's kind of interesting Like I said, we're on the tail end of this stuff. We remember it, but no one else Like that's a thing that's just dead and it probably is never coming.  So uh, when you see We'll show slavery and murder is well, it's just wolverine. He ain't gonna be smoking any cigars.    Imagine if they were made of metal And because maybe magneto is like because then I would be able to control Yeah, but that applies to everybody about everything like imagine you were made of metal. I would control you I suppose that's right. Imagine you picked up the metal cube and super smash bros and I could control everything It's um, it's such a line.   It doesn't matter I mean magnetos Telekinesis for metal is really insane. He he annihilates him in their one-on-one and it's not even close And and so scales of creativity like telekinesis power should and it's so rare that we get Ellens who can use telekinesis in interesting ways. It's so right That's why mage hand is one of the best cantrips and dnd and pathfinder just to be able to Kind of use that creatively to do all kinds of different stuff Is like amazing So um, that was one of my big problems with some of the the x-men stuff is you have powers that are like Oh, that's really cool. And then they use the most basic you way you could possibly imagine the power Like right. Okay. And magnetos one of those The fight scene in dark phoenix Is um one that gets to have a bit of fun with magneto. Yeah on the train.  Yeah, you could do that Of course Yeah, imagine things that are just like sort of heavy for us that he could do without any issue whatsoever to add a Bit of like relatability to it Yeah um Like you could just carry around a grocery cart like when he goes grocery shop And he'd have a cart just to keep all the items together, but he could just carry it around with them Reminds me of blink. Why don't you could roll it on the wheels? In days future pass where she's got portals and throughout the whole movie It's mainly just portal to get someone from a to b to a to b but there's one point in the film where they Use a portal to send colossus up and then Use a portal when he's about to hit the ground and fire him into someone with the momentum he gained It's like the most clever thing they've ever done with a power and I was like man I wish we could see more of that. There was the portal chick, right? And she uses the portals in really interesting ways. That's what I'm talking about blink Okay, I'm just making sure because it's been ages since I've seen that Yeah, I mean the most interesting thing I think she does near the beginning is she uses a portal when a laser's about to be Fired at her and she uses it to fire the laser back Like with another portal She deserved to be in more stuff just because of how cool her power was. That's so cool. Yeah It's like I said, it scales with creativity as as you get used to that power There's so many things you could do with portals thinking with portals Yeah Anyway, my favorite bad movie is phantom men is love that film such a big part of my childhood Fair enough. It's not a bad pick for best like you're your favorite bad movie because that movie sucks.  We like the prequels, but yeah, we like the prequels I legitimately like the pod racing like that's cool. Pod racing is pretty good. The fight scene at the end is pretty good Like I I hate to evoke the You know bringing things back, but it would be really cool to get to get a well done pod ray sequence You know It would be really nice to see that Because I think if disney it was really cool If disney for any reason had a pod ray section We would all immediately be like, oh my god digging up phantom menace to try and you know that sort of thing When it's like a shame because any earnest attempt to make it very good would be met with that But that's the thing any any way of getting back now. You have to claw your way up from hell Um, yeah, pretty much. That's how it goes. That's what they've forced themselves into A fun thing to do is sneak up behind someone get close to the ear and quietly say ray like kylo Why A really fun thing to do It's even more fun than that and this is you need a few friends for this one So get a get a cup of your your very good friends Very very good friends and then pick someone that you all know and throughout the day Have them randomly just lean in and whisper things like you need to wake up This is a dream No, no, this is real and then just carry on as if nothing happened And if you can get like four people four or five people to say that within a day You could really get them to freak out this question I actually think I'd buy it more if it was one as opposed to many because if it was many I'd be like you're all fucking with me. I even made the little pact to all say the stupid lines And I feel like if you had a group of them and you said that one of them would smile and you'd be like see I know They gotta be they gotta be good. They gotta be good. He's gotta be good friends. You don't laugh at such silly things Yeah, you gotta you gotta play that role very serious Or this like randomly and just randomly in conversation Just say that in the middle of a sentence and then just carry on as if nothing happened whatsoever That one would be better if you could get everybody along for the So everyone's on a very normal conversation Then someone says whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you've got to wake up looks directly at them And then carries on the conversations if nothing was missed and they all do it too Yeah, nobody else maybe says anything. They're just As if nothing happened. Yeah I mean that is downright if you get that right. That's just a scary movie in a moment in a film. Sorry, right? Scary scary movie in a moment English Hi, I'm gay actor Michael Douglas and I was wondering who you guys's favorite south park character is mine is probably randy I don't know enough about south park to really say I haven't seen that much of it. Unfortunately. This is a question we've answered before We usually settle on a trilogy of or triumvirate or whatever the word is of Eric Cartman randy and butters Usually it starts three They generate some of the funniest and craziest scenarios that are very entertaining Um, so yeah, it would be between them and all three of them have amazing episodes. So Yeah Guns my head it might be Randy. Um, I'm not sure This really is tough It'd probably be Cartman if it was gun to my head Would it be bad if stonefish went extinct? Oh stonefish.  I think so um yeah I I think so because even though the stings can be fatal and they could hurt humans I don't want that to be the criteria for making an animal extinct because that's a lot of critters a lot of critters Out there in the world. They just don't like humans and they will bite us or sting us if we get close to them But I don't want to just remove them from the world um Especially nowadays like if if we were if we were surrounded by flesh-eating uh Radioactive coyotes and we were like cavemen surviving in the post apocalypse And you asked me that about them. I'd be like, you know, I'd say there's a You know, there's something to be said about maybe making those extinct, right? If they're an actual survival concern um, but yeah, I I don't think I bet very few people die from stonefish. It's like spiders and stuff like that We have antitoxins and modern medicine and I wouldn't want to condemn a whole species for us accidentally stepping on them on occasion Hello massive Well, when I said would it be bad, I thought they meant like ecologically and I have no idea I mean it very well might be. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's another element of it Yeah, true like they might serve an important function in a in an environment that we don't consider our own But it's obviously very important to them, you know Uh got a movie recommendation for you better off dead the writers I suspect of being on meth lull anyone keep up with a good work Any who keep up with a good work Better off dead Don't know that one The meth movie apparently Oh a Fringolius maximus dingo dangus Oh Hey, have you seen ever seen a stonefish in person? They're terrifyingly potent No, never seen one Is this a different super chat? There's two stonefish. Is this the same guy who's really curious about our position? I think it's the same guy You can get some inspiration about the stonefish Yeah, maybe there's something maybe there's the Venn diagram of stonefish enthusiasts and efap, you know Audience members is maybe maybe it's maybe it's not even two circles.   All right. All these years. I never put two and two together that hopper oriented his hands to imitate a t-rex I always thought it was just him being quirky Hopper the villain of bug's life All hopper and stranger things Hmm. I'm trying to think this is the boogie docks. I don't know how hopper came up Well, yeah, like I got nothing. I have no idea I don't like hopper. I don't know if boogie. I think there are only two animals in the world that can't jump Elephants and boogie 2988 so something to think about and hippos jump. I know they run along the bottom of uh Yeah jumping in the water. Yeah, so I don't know if that counts. I I don't know if that should count because jumping in the water is way easier, right? So Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I'm uh, yeah, I don't know about that one Can a slug jump? Haven't you seen the slugs jump? Have you not gone to you know, I I don't know. I guess not I just heard it was animals. Maybe Maybe it's like animals with legs of all the animals with legs only the elephant cannot jump. Oh seems unfair That they disqualified because they don't have legs disqualify slugs If you're a slug and you can the ambassador for slugs is like I don't feel like this even if we don't have a chance We should be entered into the competition Yeah, give us the matter of respect Give us something Let us have this we're slugs geez Uh, this is what it looks like when you're so used to attention and no longer have anything of value to show Oh, well, that's that's all it's been is just trying to find new ways of being in the spotlight And uh, the lol cow podcast would be the answer to that for now Have to see how it all turns out Scott Pilgrim pulled a he-man Oh, yeah, me and ringing heard about this. We watched the first episode. We weren't that impressed. Um but the the Show itself it's not about scott for a decent portion of it. Like he's gone, right?  You just gotta be careful doing something like that, especially marketing it as a Yeah, like I think that the read on it was oh, it's like a direct sort of comic Like adaptation of the graphic novel In the same style rather than like an alternate story Yeah, a lot of people were very not happy with that I saw fighting over it, but I also haven't seen anything else about that show. So No, I didn't see much about it either Uh, tattooing what is that like halloween, but for tattoos Yeah, sure Why not? Yeah, yeah, I think so it's almost worse boogie or niccato avocado two horror shows of humans Probably boogie boogie's exceptionally bad.    You look like you're killing yourself, which kind of Yeah, like I like I if I like if I had kids first off, they're probably not gonna get on the internet until they get to a particular age But uh, yeah, I don't know if I'd want them watching like When nicocatos like children do not do not search for me on the internet Not until I'm dead Uh I've seen a video of a wombat in a kangaroo being bffs Oh, that sounds great Yeah, they they would be a good pair A wombat in a kangaroo I want the zelda movie to be animated not live action. I don't think link's hat could do good in real life. Well Everyone wants it to be animated not live action.  Maybe I don't know maybe Well depends on which zelda you go for I guess right because win-wake is pretty cartoony win-wake was very cartoon But I guess in the more But again, what I don't I don't understand why it's not an animated film. It should be that'd be even from a cynical Wisdom of like gotta have your live action Marriage did amazingly well. I don't know. I feel like there's no reason exactly People are used to it being a video game character. They're used to it having a style and a set of especially Yeah, especially with the very uh, like trying to emulate panning's style that they have for Breath of the Wild in tears of the kingdom Which are the most successful zelda games in terms of sales You know like zelda's more popular than it's ever been and it's its interpretation It's easily translatable to an animated film because it is animated in the game. So I don't get it I don't know. Yeah, I I don't But at the same time I do because they're probably like, well, yeah You know, they're elf people, but they are like just you know people. So just have it be with real actors Get celebrity actors in there, you know, wow celebrity actors Uh, yeah, and and uh talented writers too Bonjour mubes. Is there any good chance of a nofap of co-embrothers country for old men when there's less men It would not only be it would it would not be an old fap for the century Uh for the country. Sorry. Okay, so If if you're out there thinking You know, they're probably gonna do that long kong thing eventually because the long kong man has been long konging for actual years then You're gonna have like if you were like, I know I'll do it for no country for old men You understand This is just the beginning you'd have to put in several years to catch up with the long kong man. So That man's insane if for any reason He would get a long kong episode you you guys to to do the same thing It's just you're replicating madness and strength here. Okay. I'm just saying If you think you're up to the challenge, you go right ahead just be just understand what you're getting into Yeah, and by the way, we highly encourage it. We're just letting you know Uh, that's a revolver also lot duck not a krauser duck Oh Oh, okay Fair enough My friend and I finished Buffy today only angel season five to go. We love Buffy and we love an angel Thanks for the suggestion. No problem. You've got the best season of both shows left. So enjoy He does seem that far out of shape six solid months in the gym would with a good diet And he'd probably be okay. Is he any worse than you were as? Yes, as as didn't get as bad as boogie. Um, the That's actually more true than a lot of people might even imagine The weight that he's at boogie you have to basically do like incredibly little exercise and eat like Shit to like maintain it. They talk about this on different programs. They have about it.  It's uh, well, thank you So, yeah, you're you're doing pretty well. Uh, you think the the nature of Maintaining that kind of mass while living your average human life is actually like somewhat difficult, I guess You have to be in a particularly bad place You would have to be consuming A lot of food and not moving at all Which I mean, I don't know if this is uh, like a lot of people I assume I was three to have it, but you get an urge everyone.  I've been kind of like cooped up in here and I haven't really gone out I need to go out and like walk or do something, you know stretch my legs move around It's um, it's insane nonsense and doesn't even it would never happen, but if only you could just temporarily switch out the That that one drive in like an anorexic person or no beast person just switch them out for like a year And then switch them back and they both be like Uh, oh, where can I find the feet pics? I I don't know. They just said the feet pics. So I my feet pics are on my channel. Uh, I I plenty of my Uh, my avatars have my my little posy boys on them. I don't know what they're called I don't know if the cutesy name is for them. I don't think about them much. I guess I just take them for granted but uh Maybe you should get with the guy who constantly talks about she looks feet and maybe you guys could I think that guy just got defeated by time. He couldn't keep it up He couldn't do it or maybe he got exactly what it is Oh, yeah, his adventure and I hope he I hope that he his character arc He got the ring to Mordor. He really did it like something is definitely a foot uh Will this be a vase Yes, I mean, I'm sure that he could you know, he'd he'd be grateful to have a friend in tow. So See, I knew when you were interrupting. I was like he's because he's got a pun. He's got to get the pun out Are you done with the pun?   It's just the sure. Yeah, that feels like a step too far to me I know what you mean But I would not say the word in my videos if I knew it would get me demonetized I would come up with alternatives or Well, what's funny is there are words that we Uh basic sort of like wisdom would say don't use them But that we still do when we think it's a good joke I'm like I keep in so I'm just sort of If it happens it happens all I'm hoping is that we never get a channel-wide demonetization of using these words. That's all Well, it's virtually indistinguishable from randomness. So like at what point are you risking it if It's almost like well I mean in a way you don't feel bad letting the words in because as far as you know It's all just like it's all nonsense. Anyway True youtube just came out and said here are the rules. Don't see here's the list of words You don't say I would just be like well, thanks for at least telling us Jesus Christ At least now we know and we won't say those words or we know which words to Do well some of them say In that way, but then they also like sort of just lie or rather the Some people I assume you've seen it But some people like I have no idea what got me dinged this time They won't tell me or that you have included the things that are not allowed and you are monetized So it's like, yeah, I know like I said, it's indistinguishable from randomness a lot of the time So you're like, what do you want me to do? I guess the bots have to be better refined, which I'm sure will create nothing Yeah, except annoy people Uh, why do I share the same town as this massive? It's okay. They can be massives in your town. It doesn't make your town a massive fail. It's a nice town Uh, you could do some corn with kim star What do some corn maybe maybe not corn, but something else that rhymes Rhymes with corn Oh Where people are generally unclothed. Is that the whole feet pics thing that was being asked about earlier? Is that is a to do with this? Maybe I if you're not wearing Clothes then you're I suppose you would see someone's feet in that instance. I suppose so There's something to that maybe Um Recommend muck jugger nuggets series in 2016 with boog All right What does rags have against lepers? Just want heels So In the dnd campaign that i'm playing with dev arch v and sargon on arch's channel I think it's just called arch. Let me double check just to make sure Uh, I think he had to rename it a while back.  I I rolled a 20 green number and everything and sargon's Uh interesting interpretation of what that meant was that I pushed the leper down In my attempt to get away from the crowd.  Yeah, that's uh where the cookie crumbles would interpret the dice Uh Hi moeller and friends. I am traumatized from seeing boogie naked and will never be the same again. Thank you for the stream No problem. Uh, I am uh, I think I'm just kind of numb to a lot of it You know, I think I'm just numb to a lot of stuff like that. I feel like I've uh, so what's funny If you roll the clock really far back He would do this anyway in his videos getting like fully naked all close to it But what he would do is like tone tone it so that it's like I'm doing this to show you like This is this is the horror you need to avoid.  That's like yes. He finds any and all excuses to do it. The twitch thing was the newest one Yeah, why why is it that when mike clumb comes to your house to record you for a documentary? You immediately want to show him your meat aprons? Here's my meat apron and why underneath it? He's the thing I hate showing people and yeah, I don't want anyone to see this here. It is documented for all time It's a lie.   Yeah, dude We little So far this has my vote for funniest efap since 250 still some time to go before 300 But an auspicious start to be sure I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was definitely any fap for the ages Like I said, everybody will be like grossy fap horrible. Definitely see it again.  It was halfway decent. Hi rags Hi, I think just in general mcdonald's food used to be just better And now I keep hearing things are how expensive it's gotten Is there any take on like a fast food chain that's gotten better over time? I That would be that's an interesting question to ask especially for members of our audience who are um wiser than we are But I I don't think I could really answer that because I I've never been someone who had a lot of fast food For me, I always hear like it's just that that's that's much worse than it used to be much worse And it's like and to be fair. I'm I'm someone who's kind of in the same camp. I'm like I don't know if I know of any fast food restaurant there. I've been like, oh wow, they got so much better I mean, there are good ones There are ones that I like and I bet there's a bunch of stories of them There's a guy that I watch every once in a while and I'll have to forgive me. I forget his name off the top of my head But he would do stories about how like chains of fast food chains and businesses kind of rise and fall and sometimes rise again What they do to improve the quality of the food and the menu items and stuff like that so If I remembered any of those particular stories, I would have said but I'm sure there's examples That's the thing. It's just not really my wheelhouse so to speak Yeah But there's got to be examples, you know companies that don't do well and then they have to sort of either reinvent themselves or focus on quality Overcome their bad image that kind of thing Five out of the seven oversized caskets. I found are sold out currently from trusted casket america Trusted casket. I guess that's just like coffins, right? Like they sold out of the huge ones Oh well close to selling out of the huge ones, but High quality cheap caskets for sale That's Cheap caskets for sale. Yeah, can you is it like legal? Can you just not have a casket? Can you put someone in like a potato bag? You have to do that. I I assume if you want to go into the ground raw You probably can I mean it's There there might be rules to keep away Like to make sure that raw bodies Don't why don't keep calling that um, but to make sure that they don't like attract scavengers or Like animals or anything depending on location, especially if it's in like a A cemetery where there are a number of cadavers But I don't know that's actually a good question I but that sounds like the kind of thing that would very greatly based off of where you are Because I have to imagine there's gonna be families in the world that are like don't don't waste money on a coffin Just throw me and I don't give a fuck. You know that attitude probably I wouldn't want to do that because I don't want to like separate Myself from the earth, you know, because you know boogie was I don't know why do you think boogie said about this thing that comes to the ground But I wouldn't want to be separated from like I'm dead. I'm gone. I'm just I'm not here anymore Like all of the nutrients and stuff that could go into the ground to Grow the trees and the grass and stuff.  I think so That's the one He's very talented talented voice actor. He's british just like rowan atkinson. That's right Pretty much. Yeah, no real difference. That's why uh, british comedy has only gotten the same. It's always been just as good It's never gotten worse or anything Uh reliable All right. Well, uh, do casket for me. Just let me return to the earth High rags careful with that strength of yours don't want to do too well and knock more to the ground now I know that oh my goodness, you know, it's a reference now. Yeah, there we go And if it wasn't for for sargon's bizarre interpretation of what numbers mean, we wouldn't have that meme So we have you see silver linings Uh should have bought a belt for the fight Oh, well, yeah buggy. I mean, well, I guess he figured he didn't need one because I don't think They make belts that long they'd be like, what would be the point of a belt? It's not how it works Yeah, uh, but guys his foot it got smooshed. Wesker died from that. Yeah, it can it's really it could be really lethal Getting a food smooching. It's a little true. Wesker died as a food smooching, you know That's old now that video in a way, but the we knew about the food smooching We knew about the food smooching for a whole year before everyone else could join in on it, you know We were we were thinking about the food smooching It was great because it was like rediscovering an old friend who had lost, you know What a crazy way to get him out of the show to finally end his character Was he got his food smooched like that in a door and then just died off screen?  Oh Pulled the worse out of today Can't believe the door came down and it smooshed his food and that was that one to think there was no more The hallow memes for for the coming halloween is is they're all in our heads But we can't release that forbidden knowledge until halloween itself. That's right And a lot of it will be allegedly we've given away what it is many many times many times Now despite that we're still not going to confirm or deny anything But that's just what people are saying all what'll happen is It'll get announced and someone'll be like I knew it and then all the people who had predicted wrongly will be like Yeah, I knew it as well. Yeah The one I predicted there is a correct answer. Yeah, I mean people, you know, it's not too difficult to figure out especially what we give you the amount of Episodes could so to speak that there are of a series of a same IP You understand there's not many that could reach certain numbers But I'm not going to repeat whatever that number was because I've forgotten many things exactly But that's okay because it leaves more of a mystery All we'll confirm is it is indeed horror and they were films All right, boy, they were so scary. Yes Oh Rags I'm calling you out What I know you're not really or the it's the course the super chatter. Yeah Oh my goodness. I know you're not really a good boy.  You're the goodest boy I rags. Oh my goodness. That's such a kind thing for you to say. Thank you for your roller coaster Oh my gosh. Thank you. That's very kind of you. Thanks very much. Oh, I do appreciate that and then following up Sorry as I super chat before I saw how big he is. It's like, yeah as as the dot gets Well, you know No matter what you say about as you could uh He ain't boogie. No, he ain't boogie on the inside. That's for sure God, no Just a reference. I'm traveling.  Well, not on a I guess you can stand while working on a computer if you want to Uh, yeah, I suppose people get standing desks. They do they do some people have the ones that turn Things about those. Yeah, the ones that can rise and fall right for standing and sitting Yeah, I've heard decent things about them and I will never use them because I like Well, don't knock it till you try it right Well, for me like the idea of manipulating like a keyboard and mouse while standing doesn't seem ergonomic for the arms But I imagine plenty of things would um What are they called veritasks, but maybe they they slanted a certain way to where it's more comfortable I could see myself enjoying one of those especially just for the the tech side of it being like I'm like, I'm in the future like I'm living in the future I wouldn't mind trying it. It sounds like it would be interesting because I've had jobs where I'm on my feet all day You know, I've been a server in a busy restaurant and stuff like that. So I don't mind. I don't mind. You know done a lot of walking I'm beginning to suspect this guy isn't a professional I don't know if they mean boogie because professional what Loser Boogie eating shrooms the power of the earth and the palm of my head The power the power of dirt Boogie is the chicken movie Bob marinated in Mountain Dew. Oh, no He evolved. Oh my gosh. It's like Snoke Oh, look in the little test tube. He was like a little test tube guy, but it was actually The true villain all along Yeah, the lightning strike reveals I Even more of a villain that he created boogie. Yeah, it was like a task.  Whatever his challenge you do about it.  It's in like a huge Yeah, exactly So like you have some story gaslight Like you use all of them, but like all of them just result in but it failed Yeah, it's yeah beg and then it's and then it's like defense down, you know, yeah Wait up It's like hardened from metapod, but instead of the defense It's the weight boogie used to eat You can't carry any more than him.  I think they just like stare at him like awkwardly and stuff And they don't really know what to do they stare into the abyss until it stays back at them It's uh good. Oh Man, I can't wait for we're gonna be like, you know, I just read Nietzsche Well, I wouldn't pronounce it properly. I saw I saw one. Oh, he'd see. Oh, yeah, Nietzsche Hey, look right did she it's it's I don't blame fringy. I'd say it I probably say it 10 different ways 10 different times. I just can't I I've definitely said Nietzsche So I won't be too hard on that compared to like Albert Camus's But uh, yeah, it's uh, I I can't wait for him to be like, oh, yeah I just read Nietzsche and you know, did he said what doesn't kill you makes you stronger You know, and I've been thinking about how profound that thought is but it doesn't come from somebody I like Nietzsche a lot, but like I it's just like how like the stoic stuff But it's just when boogie talks about it like it's a profound idea because he's looking for his next griff It just frustrates me like Yeah Boogie doc 2 it'll happen Yeah, you probably will do that with my club as well because he'll be like, look, let's do it again But one philosophy is you're gonna discover and that one is it gonna be buddhism or something or Is he gonna is it gonna be like, you know what I've realized is that suffering comes from attachment? You know, I've just realized this as a 50 year old man Like I just don't get it. I'm just gonna keep realizing stuff. Otherwise it'll get boring Well, it is just funny because I mean it was the thing he did when he did his shroom trip Is he he he talked about it like it changed his life Um, you saw it in the documentary and he also made a video on it's like and yet nothing changed Because it's not that's because maybe that maybe that's like the lesson that he Well, I know that he's not really looking for but maybe that's kind of the awkward lesson of like Yeah, life is not like this one moment that changes everything It's a lot of very small moments and mundane if days and decisions over the course of years that kind of change who you are If you ever made that video where he actually said like I realize now that Realizing things is something that I do to Ignore the reality that I'll never change. I'll constantly talk about changing in order to You know convince myself it might someday happen, but it doesn't if you ever made that video He would probably it would be one that begins with him There's no nobody in the seat and then he walks along and sits down and then Not size not size No, we got because the size is too memed at this point But the turning the camera on and starting the video a little early that one is still pretty popular Even in the good videos that one still turns out kind of like how the dog you can't have a dog with you Yeah, the dog's too much now Yeah, if it's a cat then you probably be better off That goes back to the csgo scandal, doesn't it right? Yeah, even for the back of that Team Martin opens the video with his dog. Those are really funny though. They got away with it. They did They got away with it. It'd be funnier if someone opened with like a mole rat, you know Like they just had a mole rat. They're like, hey, buddy Oh, god, but do the day someone has to apologize or just go.  I'm gonna try not to do that with future Oh god, yeah Um, but yeah, it would also it would also end with that sort of vibe too where you would stare at the camera for a little while Yeah, and he leans over and then turns it off You know, and then the camera shakes as he turns it off because he leaves that in I don't know. It's just I mean the ground would shake as he it's called authenticity It is it is kind of fascinating because whether it's honest or not like the idea of oh well I can just discover this new ideology that fixes my life is um It's just a fascinating kind of thought process of oh, I just found out about stoicism. There we go My life is now improved because I'm aware of a concept as opposed to actually putting it into action Because that's just it's just he really is a path of least resistance guy like what he really wants Is a lifestyle where he can have a bunch of money Without doing much work and he can eat and play video games and wank.  Yeah, you can't expect the quote isn't a thing Well wait, what if I wanted to convince people I had changed but hadn't actually though Oh, well then oh well Whoa again, it's it's like if he lost weight that would be like the most convincing thing Yes, literally would yes him losing weight would be a physical demanifestation Of the like the problems of his psyche and his personal if you're Committing to do this one thing if he'd lost weight but changed absolutely nothing about his personality, which almost isn't even possible But let's just pretend for a second if he did Um, it would still convince a shit ton of people that this is a different buggy now. Something's happened. Yeah, something happened Something has to have happened because that's a massive change to make and and and it's like you said It's kind of absurd to say that he wouldn't be different because he'd necessarily be different His his routines would be different and then of course, they'd be the physiological effect as well of you know, you exercise releases uh releases like serotonin um And and and and like the diet and everything. I mean, it's it's just that it's just true, right? Like depression tracks with uh obesity. Yeah, you know, I went to school with her in a grade school Huh, sara. I went to school with her. She's really nice. She's hot Wait, what? sara I Wait, I I'm I'm so lost what you said her name sara tonin Oh school together. Oh, I see. It's a it's a meme Oh rags the sentence wouldn't have matched the nature of a human name at all Yeah, what do you mean? Hence my confusion I said it releases sara tonin Exercise, it's good that she's free. I don't want to trap them. I don't want to trap the idea that you need to get somebody to run Somebody has to run and then it releases the page in which sara tonin The idea of Trapped inside of boogie's brain for eternity until he exercises is like that's a horrible terrible fate. All right Why so she has to He has to go on an adventure through him to like try and motivate him by using whatever is available inside of his mind To get him to actually run boogie jog. Please just a little bit free me release me You're my only hope Oh, that's like that movie Yeah, oh, yeah, it's that movie. It's uh, Dennis nandry. Yeah Oh, yeah, none that too Ifab is the only thing in my life that brings me joy also high rags The beginning of a legend What's so funny is uh, but it always makes me smile I've highlighted this before but people use that meme so early the people hadn't even watched the episode and so the unlisted version What was There was a top comment that was like e-fabs the only joy in my life from uh the upload and then there was people being like Dude, no offense. That's kind of sad. Like you should be more to your life than just e-fab They were getting more they were getting what boogie was wanting to get the sympathy of strangers on the internet The best thing is that he inadvertently created the e-fab the fnt I was on after that uh Unlisted one of them said that fnt is the only joy in my life and so what else was just like listen I like fnt is one of the next guy, but I think that you might have a problem. It's the only joy Ha ha ha ha ha You gotta let the meme spread apparently but so hot off the brass says people feel sorry for you Mountain Dew rhymes with liquid poo for a reason Mountain Dew's not like liquid poo Mountain Dew's fine Mountain Dew's fine It was the thing that uh, remember it was in the south buck episode when they went uh ziplining Cartman kept drinking He was drinking Mountain Dew then he was drinking like double dew then diet double dew and that was making him Diet double dew. Yeah, that's right They used to put that on your uh, they used to put that on the Mountain Dew Bottles they used to say doobie doobie do Wasn't it do the do? They also had that Mountain Dew is such a good drink, isn't it It's to have it with Doritos when you play kola do you? Yeah, that's right Oh, I was um, I was actually in the efap discord in last night just chatting with people late at night and The subject as it often does uh came up of shadow the hedgehog And someone was asking we all know that Sonic's favorite food is like chili dogs, right? But what a shadows favorite food So I looked it up and you guys will enjoy this Favorite food So here's a list of shadows favorite foods He likes Pizza Okay, Doritos Hot pockets and snickers Okay, interesting No mountain he'd like eating a bowl of glass or something so that he can feel the pain of You know, it's it's inflict the pain on himself that is in his soul or something Yeah, yes, but I'm glad that he's eating pizza and he's old school edgy, which is like he's he's like teen He's funny edgy. Yeah, he's funny edgy. He's not like depressing annoying edgy Because it's funny.  It's like no really He's funny.   Yeah flames. Yeah He listens to um Like, you know heavy metal but not death metal or anything. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he I like Lincoln park, right? But he listens Park He listens to Lincoln park for sure his favorite prequel movie is revenge. Uh, well It's everyone's favorite prequel, but what do you mean? Yeah, that's that's true. That's the correct answer We got a weed weed out the false positives, you know, this is the favorite event his movie is infinity war I mean Well, damn guys, which is a bad which is a bad choice for uh, learning some things about ourselves that I didn't Well, maybe we have a little bit too much in common with shadow the herds Or maybe we need to have more in common with him because Maybe there's a little shadow in our hearts. Yeah, man. Maybe each of us. There's a little shadow in each of us Ah mountain dew drink I don't know if the super chat wanted us to drink mountain dew, but I mean, I'm right I don't know. Yeah, mountain dew is far from my favorite soft drink. It's yeah, it's far from it. Um, Oh, I like that. I mean, yeah, it's fine. You know, I'll drink a mountain dew. No problem If I'm at a party or whatever and there's mountain dew is like I'll drink it. No problem. I don't mind mountain dew. It's nice But I would ask the question if it was the only drink available. I would ask them like what what's the deal? Why? I yeah, like casually I'd say Like anything else to drink and like no, no, this is all we got is like Yeah, sure. I mean that is that is like odd that picture of jeff kealy sitting there next to master chief and All the mountain doing doritos with this like oh, yeah expression Which by the way talking about games journalism, by the way, yeah, yeah The irony is it's not even irony. It's just that's hilarious. It's like, uh, yes, we need more great games journalists Uh It really was like and it's dark too. It's still just it still has it It's hilarious.  That's why when anyone digs into any of it.  It's really cheap to live here. Yeah, it's just not an expensive place to live If he's struggling then that this it's all a him problem $7,000 to live Uh, $7,000 per uh, wait was it it was per was a per it was per month, right? Or was it per week? Well, that was the problem some of those some of those things didn't make sense Wasn't one of them we were trying to figure out how could it be per month with one of the costs one of them was like a yearly cost It was like $150 a month or some shit, right? It was 70 or 80 bucks.  He's just really good at managing his money You gotta buy a new car, you know, you know what I always say this is a really good financial strategy is you know buying new cars It's really great financial advice That car will appreciate like a bottle of fine wine trust As soon as it rolls off the ramp it appreciates It practically doubles in value Wait, oh wait, or is it the other way around? A part of me is convinced that people who just like buy new cars are actually retarded Well, the thing is you can buy new cars and you got the money, but I mean if you if you're struggling It's like you get a used car that lost you for a while For the average cheaper I think uh, my dad and I were talking to him something along the lines of this Um, and he said the average car payment in the united states is like $600 something like that like 650 bucks a month for a new car, which is Like that's insane to me the idea of I can't imagine buying a new