Live from Las Vegas, Nevada. It's theCUBE, covering EMC World 2015. Brought to you by EMC, Brocade, and VCE. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are live in Las Vegas for EMC World 2015. This is theCUBE SiliconANGLE's special broadcast of EMC World 2015. We go out to the events and we extract a signal from the noise. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE. I'm my co-host Dave Vellante with wukibond.com. Our next guest is Chris Waw, Enterprise Technical and Architect at St. Charles Health System from Bend, Oregon. Welcome to theCUBE. Thank you, nice to be here. So first, tell us a little bit about Bend, Oregon. I mean, I love that place. It is beautiful. I've heard great things that go in there for the first time. St. Charles Health System. So tell us about your opportunity there. Yeah, so at St. Charles Health System, we have four hospitals, about 15 different clinics. We do everything from inpatient outpatient surgery all the way down to basically sleep center stuff, heart center, cancer treatment center. So really, it's a true health system from top to bottom. How many locations? Four hospitals. So there's one in Bend. There's one in Redmond. One in Madras and one in Primeville. What's it like in Bend, Oregon? Never been. It's beautiful. It's sunny most of the year. It's kind of a dry climate actually, kind of like Las Vegas. And there is plenty of breweries. There's plenty of restaurants. The craft brewery up there is pretty good, isn't it? Very much so, yeah, there's lots of them. We should get it. We need to get it sponsored from there. I think so, that's cute. We had Stone Brewery on theCUBE. We love craft beer here on theCUBE. Anyway, tell us about what you're talking about here at EMC. What's the top conversation you're involved in? With being here at EMC? Yeah. Lots of things actually. So we actually just signed an ELA with EMC and we actually have brand new VMAX3s coming in some V-Plex systems to augment our current VMAX system. We have Icelon. We have RecoverPoint. We have Data Domain. Avamart, really the full suite. We have just, me and my coworkers just taking in all these sessions, taking lots of notes. What's the state of the data protection situation for you guys? You guys actively involved in automating. What do you have from EMC? What have they done for you guys that if you didn't have EMC, you'd be in trouble with? Can you explain? Absolutely. So not that long ago, we actually had just tape-based backups. That obviously has its own set of issues. So as time went on, EMC, a number of years ago, actually presented us with an EDL. And that was amazing. It got rid of the tapes. We've progressed even further now. So now we have Avamart and Data Domain as the backend storage. And we don't worry about it anymore. We do snapshot-level image backups of all of our VMs. We do SQL backups from the file level of that. All of it gets de-duped on the backend with Data Domain. We replicate all of that data back over to the DR site. And it's- Did it help with the multiple locations? What was the life before EMC? So before EMC, it was one giant tape library in one location. In the event that you needed something restored, it was run down to the basement, open up, try to find the tape, get the tape in there, wait for that to load, wait for that to recover. Now it's not that way at all. It's two locations. We have our primary data center where everything gets backed up to. That gets completely replicated to our DR site and we can restore from either location. No tape. No tape, not at all. Completely limited tape by our shop. There is no tapes at all in our shop, yeah. Okay, so tell us a little bit more about your infrastructure. Actually, you know what? Tell us about the apps that you're supporting and then let's work back into the infrastructure. Okay, so the primary apps that we would consider tier one would be our electronic medical records. So those are primarily Microsoft with SQL as the backend. Going through that, we have interface systems that tie all of that together. We have our ambulatory EMR systems, things that support the hospital, like a nurse call and different things like that. And then we go down to the basic infrastructure of exchange and file shares and department shares and really the whole gamut of. Okay, and then the physical infrastructure. We've got a lot of EMC stuff, but take us through sort of what the infrastructure looks like. Sure, so we're primarily blade chassis for all of our servers. It's about 98% virtualized, so it's pretty much all VMs. The only thing that's not a VM is pretty much appliances and different stuff that have to stay physical. That's completely at our primary site. All of that then, with the EMC storage on the backend, we have basically a VMAX, which is our tier one. That's where all the stuff goes that no matter what 24-7 has to stay up. What we would consider our tier two, which still stays up all the time anyway as well, but that's our VNX. That all gets replicated to a VNX at the DR side with recover point that we're rolling out. The VMAX is replicated with SRDF, and then again, the backup side is Avamar data domain. Then for the file level system, we have our ICELON, and so we have two of those as well. One of those is the Pride production site. That one gets completely replicated to the DR site. Snapshots on both ends, and... What challenges do you have in managing this infrastructure? I mean, some of it was bought in. ICELON was an acquisition. The data domain acquisition, so different sort of products. How are you integrating those? How is EMC helping you integrate those? What are some of the challenges that you face there? Well, one of the big challenges we had for a long time was everything was just kind of disparate systems. We had individual rack mount servers. We had DAZ systems. We had attached storage that was either archival stuff. It could be file shares, department shares. We had individual Microsoft file systems. Basically, we took all of that from the file level side and wrapped it right into the ICELON. So we do so much with just one, literally one file system. We went from three guys that were running the server storage side and we were literally about one-eighth of the infrastructure we are now. We're eight times that now in the last five to six years. We only have four people. So although we've complexity-wise have grown quite a bit, management-wise, thanks to EMC and that technology, we have barely any more people. Why? Why is that? Can you help us understand? Absolutely. So one of the things, again with the ICELON, which has been a huge hit for us, we don't have to manage all these different pieces of hardware. We don't have to manage all these different applications looking at different systems, all these different management interfaces. If it's file level, if it's archive, we go to the one-FS file system, manage that from there, which is really easy. As far as the VMAX and the VNX, just two portals for everything. Giant data stores were able to basically manage it with very few people. EMC was very instrumental in coming in basically helping us consolidate that down and just make it easier to use. So you've got an all EMC storage shop? Pretty much. The only thing that's not at this point is VDI, but eventually with their ELA, that just might happen. So, I remember the old stories, you're too young to remember, but back in the mainframe days, the way that somebody used to negotiate with IBM is they'd say, well, you've just got to put an Amdahl coffee cup on. Mm-hmm, right, yes. IBM will cut the price. So I've got other customers telling me, it's just way easier to work with one vendor. Help us think through the sourcing argument. Single throat to choke, or better to have a little competitive knockoff going on. Well, I'd say competition's always good, but the single throat actually has helped us a great deal. So for example, back to the backup idea, we used to have, obviously it wasn't EMC storage many, many years ago, but we'd have one application that was running backups. Eventually it became EMC storage because it was the EDL, but then if there was issues with backups, to your point, who do you call at first? Will you call one vendor, and then they're going to show you, well, maybe it's this, if you try the other vendor. So with Avamar and Data Domain, along with those backends, we love it. That also makes our complexity far less. If there's ever issues with backups or something like that, we call EMC. We open a ticket with PowerLink. Top to bottom support, the application right down to the hardware level, it's all the same, and that has helped us tremendously. Okay, that's interesting. So, talk about the roadmap. You mentioned, actually again, take it back to the business. Electronic medical records, Obamacare, meaningful use, doctors that are increasingly more, I guess they're more receptive to technology these days than they used to be. Mobile, data, HIPAA, got a lot of challenges in your business. Where is that going, and where is your technology going? So, right now, again, we're not too complex. We try to keep that small, but roadmap-wise, what we're doing is we're really trying to beef up our DR strategy. So, we're building a brand new hospital in Pineville, Oregon, and in doing that, the IT department partnered with the business and said, hey, we want a full DR space. We want something that's just as nice as our production data center, all the bells and whistles. And so, in doing that, we've partnered with EMC as well, and we're basically going in, and we're going to put all of our EMC gear replicated there. We have some new V-Plexes coming in, so really heavily at EMC World, we're looking at some V-Plex stuff and how we're going to make some active, active data centers. And one of the biggest things that the doctors and the nurses and all that want is 24 by seven uptime of that application. That's going to buy us that. We're going to be able to basically fail over to the DR site live if we need to, do whatever kind of maintenance we need, be preemptive about that, and keep them happy. As a technologist, what are you excited about? I mean, people have been saying here at this conference, we're living in the most disruptive times that we can ever remember. Probably true. Yeah. Five mobile social big data, platform three, blah, blah, blah. What excites you as a technologist? Oh, lots of things. Again, I'd have to say honestly, the ice line has been one of the biggest things just because of the challenge of just images everywhere, pack stuff, sleep studies, all that kind of stuff. So that's just been phenomenal. That excites me. The VMAX three, honestly very excited about that. We're going to roll out vSphere six here at some point soon to be able to use that with VVOLs. The whole hypermax thing and be able to actually future proof ourselves. That's exciting. The active, active data center is exciting. All this kind of stuff that forever you could do, but it was kind of a little bit harder. It's becoming so much easier with as little resources we have. So yeah, me and the guys who work with, every day we go to work, it's really exciting. It's really fortunate to be in the business. So you can stand up stuff pretty quickly and integrate it? We can, and that's honestly the nice thing with all the stores, especially with the Ice Lawn or even the VNX. Anytime we partner with the EMC, they help us forecast our storage. We're able to really get storage in the door relatively quickly, provision it out and just keep on moving. Because virtualization, we honestly went from maybe a couple hundred servers a few years ago, three or four years ago, and now we're over 1,500 and growing with VDI. And it just doesn't slow down and we haven't had any bottlenecks with storage because we just keep expanding it ahead of time and planning. That's great. Chris, thank you so much for coming on the queue. I wanted to get to a final word for you. Share the folks out there who are watching that are looking at the same journey you've been. What have you learned? What would you share for advice for them? Well, it can be overwhelming, obviously, with all the different types of technology. The biggest thing that helped us was partnering with the EMC, as we said, and basically saying, here's our problem, here's the solutions we need, because there's so many different things that overlap, but which is a good thing, because when you look at that, you can really get the niche of exactly what you need. And so what we did was just say, hey, here's what we need, here's how we need to achieve that, and then they basically hid, here's the different options, here's the solutions you can make, and we've tailor-made it from top to bottom with one vendor. Final, final question. Everyone's dying to know is, what is your favorite beer? Wow. Being from Ben, with all that craft beer up there, what's your favorite? The guys are going to hate me here. I'm not much of a beer drinker. They have a really good distillery there, so Crater Lake vodka, there you go, from Central Oregon. Oh, your favorite spirit. Yes, Crater Lake vodka, absolutely. All right, Chris, let's get on the queue. We know that in IT, beer is the most popular drink out there, but sentiment's changing. We're craft beer-oriented, IPA's always. This is a cube. Great beer-friendly here at EMC World. We'll be right back after this short break.


Well as howling winds echo across the snow-covered beaches of the wild northwest, we present Sergeant Preston of the Yukon by special recording brought to you by the Quaker Oats Company, makers of Quaker Pop Wheat and Quaker Pop Rice, the delicious cereal shot from guns in cooperation with the Mutual Broadcasting System. It's Yukon King, swiftest and strongest lead dog of the Northwest, breaking the trail for Sergeant Preston of the Northwest Mounted Police, in his relentless pursuit of lawbreakers. One King on you, Husky. Gold, gold-discovered mutual, whether it freezes you of fear in the wild northwest territory, or singes you with the accurate heat of the western plains, it's all our mutual every week over most of these stations. Preston and King have escorted Major Warren, the military governor, on a tour of inspection. Their last stop was the Northwest Mounted Post, far to the north of Dawson, on the shores of the Beaufort Sea. By the time they reached there, it was late September, and the days were growing shorter. The sun was still shone brightly, but on the afternoon the Sergeant and King saw the tiny sail on the northern horizon, there was a keen edge to the wind. It drove the small boat swiftly toward the island. There seemed to be only one man. He lowered his sail in the boat near the shore, and a few minutes later, the Sergeant helped the sailor beach the tidy crack. We'll run her up as far as we can, try to be going out in under hour. How's it going?  Sergeant Preston, it's your service. And this is Herschel Island? That's right. I've made it. Have you got a doctor here? There's Father Anne Vaughn at the mission. You will? No. It's my friend, Ari, in the bottom of the east of here, beyond the pack ice. She was anchored off Borden Island when we left her, but the captain claimed to cruise far the north toward the ice cap to wait for the freeze. So you jumped ship and stole a boat to do it? Yes, sir. It was Ari's doing. He talked me into it. Oh? Oh. He said the polar quest was a death ship, that there was a killer aboard.  Was he ill at the time? No, sir. He didn't take sick until he was out for a year. What did he mean, a killer aboard? He wasn't saying anything more than that. But you believed him? Yes, sir. You must have had some reason. I was willing to believe anything by that time. There are queer blokes, those explorers. Three of them in charge of the expedition. And you could see they did trust each other from the beginning. Captain Rums, they didn't lie down the law and tell him who was master. They'd have been at each other's throat. Who are these men? There's Professor Croydon and Kurt Elmuth. He's the only one who's tried that sort of thing before, a German. And an Indian named Dr. Singh. An East Indian? Aye. But educated at Oxford. Sergeant, could Father Antoine give you any idea how ill this man Harry is? When he might regain consciousness? No, sir. Oh, here's Father Antoine now. Well, Father, how's your patient? Me sure. I am sorry. The man is dead. Dead? Harry's dead? We, my son. No. What was it, Father? Exposure? Exposure! I kept him well covered. Oh, it took care of him like a baby. It is a strange case. I am not prepared to say what caused his death. Naturally, you haven't had much time to examine him. One could only be sure after an autopsy as to the exact cause. I cannot name the poison. Poison? Oui, that is certain. But nothing like arsenic or strychnine. A small poison. An exotic poison. The type that we associate with the Haris, I have only encountered with symptoms in books. The Far East, Father? India first? Oui, son. India? A slow poison. You mean Harry could have been poisoned before he left the ship? Oui. Dr. Singh.  It is impossible here. A well-equipped laboratory would be necessary. But you're sure he was poisoned. I am sure. I'd like to speak with you alongside him. Yes, sir. Harry was my best friend, Father. You don't know what it means to me. I do, my son. Looks like murder, Sergeant. Yes, sir. It would seem that the poisoning took place while a polar quest was anchored at Gordon Island. That's Northwest Territory. The case comes under our jurisdiction. That's right, sir. If you were ordered to get to the polar quest and investigate, how would you do it? We have small boats, sir. We'll go through the pack ice and against the prevailing winds. We'll never make it before the freeze-up. Might be better to wait for that. It's traveled by dog sled. Yes, but it may be an alternative. The cutter is doing with supplies. Captain Dayton isn't under my command, but he should be willing to cooperate. They'll find out. The cutter, Victoria, arrived the following day. And the major placed his problem before Captain Dayton. So you've ordered Sergeant Preston to find the polar quest maker. Yes, Captain. When I take him, you'll wait for the freeze-up and travel by dog sled. That won't be long. But when the freeze-up does come, Croydon and Elmeth and Sing will be on their way to the North Pole. I see. Perkins had the many channels to the pack ice. I should. And open CBI. I should. Captain Ramsey planned to cruise to North from Gordon Island. I'm sure the polar cap was sighted, sir. It could take a week to get there, Major. Too long? A week there and a week back. It's just about the limit. I'm sorry, sir, to board the polar quest, all I ask is... You shall have it, Sergeant, if we can find her. The Victoria left Virtual Island that same day. Her course north by northeast, across the Beaufort Sea and into the Arctic Ocean. On the second morning, she reached the pack ice. Beyond, it was a dazzling pink. It reflected the rays of the sun. Without dark glasses, it would have been impossible for the men on board the cutter to stand the glare. The Sergeant and King stood the sight, the captain on the bridge. From here, it looks to be a solid field. Call a looser. See what I'm pointing? That black line? A channel through it. Probably half mile wide. Oh. Will you take it? Yes. Luckily, it had to do north. But we won't be able to follow a straight course from now on. A lot of twisting and turning. I'll take the wheel myself when we get into it. Adventure in just a moment. Hurry, it got pencil and paper right now. There's some fun and excitement waiting for you. Can you guess what it is? It's the ballpark where everything is fun. The crowds, the eats, and what a thrill to see the players smack that ball over the fence. Come out to the game now as guest of your favorite team. If you're 12 years old or younger and can bring a paying adult like mom or dad, grab your pencil and paper. Here's how to get your free baseball ticket. Get a package of Quaker Pop Wheat or Quaker Pop Rice or Muffet Shredded Wheat. Share off the box top and send with your name and address to baseball box 5205 Chicago 77 Illinois. Details are on every ticket. Hurry, send the box top now from Quaker Pop Wheat or Pop Rice or Muffet Shredded Wheat. You get two free tickets when you send the guarantee seal from Quaker Packle 10. We'll give you the address now and again later in the program. Write it down. Baseball box 5205 Chicago 77 Illinois. Occasionally, a great bird grows high above the ship to port a stop. With captain Dayton at the helm, the cutter picked her way through the field this way and that. At times reversing her direction to reach a wide channel of open water. It was slow progress. And for 48 hours the captain never left the bridge. Then at last a dark line showed on the horizon. The open sea. Last clear water was reached. The barometer began to fall. Wind shifted to the southwest. You need some rest captain. Can't take it now. We're in for some dirty weather. No telling how bad it'll be. It was very bad. Wind continued to rise. A sleep storm hit the cutter. Within 10 minutes every exposed surface was coated with ice. It was almost impossible to see. Now in the darkness, an iceberg seemed too light. Could mean disaster. I can't stop him. He stepped a dozen times during the next 24 hours. Late ice mountain loomed above the cutter. At the end of that time every man on board had reached the limit of his endurance. But as long as the storm continues there could be no rest for anyone. Then suddenly the gale slattened. The sky cleared. The waves were still high. But once more the cutter was the mistress for her own destiny. The captain shot the sun. He calculated the ship's position. See any icebergs in the north, captain? I think I do. Yes. Solid ice is time. We'll be heading due east now, huh? We should be picking up the port at first soon. Unless... Unless what, captain? Unless the storm was too much for her. Oh. If we'd been farther north than the storm hit we would have been driven into that ice. Smash! Slowly the cutter steamed on. All hands searching for the polar quest. As darkness fell her speed was cut still more. Even though the sky was bright with stars. The sun rose and turned the birds to pink crystal. The polar cap cleared to the north. Then suddenly king raised his muzzle to the sky and howl. Butter boy. I don't see anything. There's something ahead you can be sure of that. It was a full hour before the lookout spotted the mass of the polar quest. Shockly outlined against the ice-clare to the north. Captain, watch! As the cutter steamed towards the ship captain Dayton and the sergeant studied it through their binoculars. Looks bad. Probably rammed into the ice with the storms. Still a float blown. The damage must be forward. Those men on the ice must be unloading the stars. Will that mean the ship's going down? I can't think of any other reason. Must be a hole below the water line. Well, at least... What's the matter? Look where I'm pointing. I can't see anything. He's gone now. I saw a man's head in that porthole just after the bridge. Are you sure? Positive. You run the cutter close enough for us to board it. It'll be dangerous, but we can do it. But at least one man's still on board, Captain. We have a friend to get him off, Sergeant. Move the speed ahead. The cutter ranged alongside the sinking ship. Ordinarily much higher than the cutter, the forward deck of the forward crest was now only a few feet above it. Boarding would be a simple process. It had been decided that the sergeant and George Curtin would make the first reconnaissance. And now they stood ready to climb aboard the stricken vessel. King stood beside his master. Don't worry, boy, I won't leave you behind. Each cabin is glad, George. I'm boarding there, just in back of the captain's quarters. That'd be Professor Croydon. Finish with engines! Go to it, Captain. Stand by for ten minutes. That's as much time as I can give you. That'd be plenty. All right, up you go, King. The sergeant looked at King in his arms and tossed him onto the sharply sliding forward deck of the forward crest. Sergeant and George climbed the board after him. This way, Sergeant. They compounded the way to the bridge. Then started out with Professor Croydon's cabin. As they reached it, they heard a mumble cry for help. Catch the doctor. Of course, Locke. Come on, put your weight again. Inside the cabin and out of the glare, the sergeant found it difficult to see. He followed King, who led him to the far corner. He's not only bound, he's gagged as well. I'll have you free in a moment, Doctor. There. You are not a member of the Corps. Sergeant Preston, North West Mother Police. Police. That's right, Doctor. And if you want the gory tooth, he's come here to arrest you for the murder of my pal. George Parkes. You brought him. I did. I'll give you a hand up, Doctor. How did you know that I... How did we know you killed him? No. How did you know that I was aboard? That they'd left me here. I saw your face at the portal. I managed to stand up for a minute. Then the ship lurched, and I fell down again. We can talk on board the cutter. Come along, this ship's sinking. We can't leave the Professor. The Professor? Fine. There he is in the bunk. He's desperately ill. Always and maybe. Just like Gary was. Harry Poison? You should know. He must have found out what Kurt was up to. Sergeant, Kurt Helmuth is a murderer. You must believe me. The Professor fell ill just before the storm hit us. I diagnosed Poison at once, and I searched Kurt's cabin. I found this fire. A likely story. The Professor going to die? No. I've given him an antidote. Can we move him? Yes. I'll just trap him well in the blanket. Do you want me to lend an egg? No, I've got him. Let's go. These are the facts, Sergeant. In the very beginning, Kurt Helmuth resented the society, sending the Professor and me along on this expedition. He wanted all the glory for himself. The first man to reach the North Pole. I knew that he would try to make trouble. But I didn't realize he'd go as far as murder. How'd you happen to be bound in gag? After we hit the ice, I wanted the Professor's cabin to see if he was all right. Someone entered the cabin behind me, hit me over the head. When I regained consciousness, I was as you found me. Sergeant. What? There's Helmuth now, standing on the edge of the ice. He has a rifle, he's going to shoot. The bleeding Dutchman's trying to kill us. Stop him from getting on board the cutter at any rate. Actions speak louder than words. This certainly proves your story, don't you? That man must be insane. I agree. It doesn't seem to affect his shooting. Sergeant protected the unconscious Professor with his body as he crouched low behind the railing. George and the doctor were pinned down as well. Then another volley of shots rang out. The teams came from the deck of the cutter. The Sergeant raised his head. He could no longer see Helmuth. Forward deck of the full request was now lower than the cutters. Captain Dayton edged his trim craft between the ship and the ice field and shouted for the Sergeant to come aboard. He can't make it out, Sergeant. Come on. The Professor was lifted aboard the cutter. The doctor followed him, then the sailor. But the Sergeant suddenly realized that the King was missing. The King was still up on the quarter deck just outside the captain's cabin. Satan roared at the Sergeant. That checker's standing on will be watched in a minute. Very, very good. King, come here. King wanted to obey his master's command and run to his side. But he knew there was something inside the cabin the Sergeant should investigate. And he stood his ground. His perseverance was rewarded. The Sergeant started up from the lower deck and went over it. What a good boy. King's back planically at the cabin door. The Sergeant opened it. The Captain ramped. He was lying on the floor. There was a dark stain on his vodka. The Sergeant felt beside him. Still alive, King. The Sergeant lifted the captain in his arms and hurried out to the bridge. The full request was sinking fast now. The cutter was about 20 yards away. The water kept up toward the bridge. The cutter maneuvered closer. A few seconds more and the ship turned to the bottom. Reached out from the cutter's deck for the Sergeant's burden. Oh, it cut the door open. The Sergeant lifted King to the cutter's deck and then followed him. The cutter pulled away. The stern of the poor quest reared high in the air. It hung their motion for a second and then the ship dove to the bottom. The ship was sinking fast. Then the vacuum filled. The sea was calm once more. Captain Ramsay was taken to Captain Dayton's cabin. And Dr. Singh dressed his wound. Well, Doctor? I can't say. Touch and go. I think he'll pull through, but he won't be able to talk for days. Who shot him? After what Helmeth tried to do to us, we can make a pretty fair guess. Of course it was Helmeth. He seems to be in complete command. But I can't understand as to where the ship's crew should be taken orders from him. They have no choice. Is one man against many? Oh no, he is not alone. He had six men on board who were to travel to the pool with us. Helmeth hired them. They were all well armed. Obviously, they held guns on them. A ball player in person? Maybe you've seen his picture on the sport page or on the screen. But what a thrill to see him in person, right there on the ballpark with the crowds cheering and yelling. And now's your chance. Come on out to the ball game as guests of your favorite team. You can get in the park free. If you are 12 years old or younger, a mom or dad, a paying adult, to get your free ticket, just get a package of Quaker Puffed Wheat or Quaker Puffed Rice or Muffet Shredded Wheat. 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Then staying as close to the ground as they could, they started for the main camp where helmets were directing the work. They crawled closer and closer to the glare of the campfire. And then suddenly there were shots from the water's edge. Hey, hey! There's a boat here. They're landing. Found our boat. There we are, Kurt. At the sound of the sergeant's voice, Kurt fired violently into the darkness. The sergeant fired only once. You only in charges? Stay here. The shots of the wounded Kurt struck confusion to the camp. Kurt was clutching his right arm. But before his men knew what was happening, the sergeant reached his side and held him tightly. In just a moment with a word about our next exciting adventure. What do you want most in a car? Economy, pride, or personal safety? Well, if you're a good driver, you can have all three with an automobile in tip-top condition. A car kept in good running condition is more economical than one that isn't. 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A man went to the doctor and the doctor said, you have only three weeks to live. The man became distraught and said, doctor, what can I do? The doctor said, take three mud baths a day. He said, oh, is that going to help? Can I live with it? Am I going to live longer if I do this? The doctor said, no. It's just that when they bury you, it won't be too much of a shock. You've already been there every day, three times. So, usually earth, soil, in United States, people refer to the soil as dirt. Here also, you call it dirt or soil, huh? Indian people soil. I'm asking others, do you call it dirt or soil? Normally in language, soil. So it's called dirt up there. So dirt, you're 12% dirt, all right? Just to get the dirt off because the essence of your physicality is formed by the earth. Water, air, fire is there. But the essence of your physicality is because of the earth that you have taken. So this is the core physicality of who you are, and it's only 12%. Only 12%, but that is the core element of your physicality. But that is what is getting in the way. Water, easily you can transform. Air, you can easily transform. Fire takes some effort, but that is not really in the way. It's in a different way, the way fire functions. It is the earth which is getting in the way. So just 12% getting in your way. See, not a big obstacle. Just 12% of your body is getting in the way of your liberation. I want you to understand, only 12%. You can go through the water, isn't it? You can go through the air. Fire you can cross, doesn't block you. In fact, it lights up. It's only 12% of your physicality which blocks. Just getting that little dirt out of your way. That's not so complex. It's complex because you're identified with it and you're trying to change it. That's why it's complex. See, this flower, so beautiful and so alive, but it was not difficult for you to cut this from the plant and stick it here, isn't it? Your little finger, is it as beautiful as this flower? Is it? Don't tell me. Is it? No. Just cut it and put it here, let me see. No, because you're identified with it. No pain. Pain is not the only thing. We can give you an anesthetic. Pain is not the only thing. Pain is a protection. We can subvert the pain, isn't it? We can give you an anesthetic. Can you cut this finger and stick it here? Because you're identified with it, yes? That's why it's in the way, not otherwise. Otherwise it's not in the way. What is a stepping stone has become a hurdle now because you're identified with it. So one way is bhuta shuddhi means taking charge of it so that you can shape it the way you want it, so that it functions the way you want it. But at the same time, becoming super capable with the body can also be trouble for some people because they will get more identified with it because it's functioning so beautifully. They'll get furthermore identified with it. So bhuta shuddhi comes with a certain balance, a certain mastery and a certain dispassion, a certain mastery and a certain dispassion. All practices are governed like this. So particularly practices concerned with earth are very strongly governed like this because if your body becomes super capable, you may become more ignorant than the way you are right now. It happens, isn't it?  You wouldn't be so identified with it. But you're like that. Now it's all about your body, isn't it? Yes or no? It becomes all about your body simply because it is receiving appreciation, it is being looked up to. Now you become all about the body. To keep the body very fit and efficient and to keep a certain distance from it. This is how all practices are devised and one level to make it competent and another level to create a certain space. Without the space, if competence comes, ignorance rises to heavens, you know? It becomes… one becomes far more ignorant than the way they are right now. So the practices of the earth are specially designed in such a way that without a proper initiation they're never really thought because dispassion should be the first step before competence, otherwise people will get more entangled than the way they are right now. So can it be thought? Definitely it can be. But everybody being part-time yogis, weekend yogis, going on adding more and more practices, not good, such people, what they should do is… all of you, what you should do is, in a year you must take off two or three weeks minimum, two or three times in a year where this week or fifteen days that you spend is just about this one, only for this being. Oh, is it not selfish? I want to go holiday vacation with my family, I want to do this, I want to take my children, I want you to understand. The best thing you can do to your family, to your children, to your society and to the world around you is, enhance this one, isn't it? Yes or no? This is the best gift you can offer to anybody. If you become a beautiful human being, isn't this the best thing you can offer to people around you? Most human beings are difficult. Not always. I know that. Always difficult means they've got rid of you, but difficult many times in a day. No, only twice a day, if somebody is difficult twice a day, it's quite a burden to carry them through, isn't it? Every day you get angry for five minutes only. You go wild for five minutes. This is enough to tire somebody of you, isn't it? Hmm? You don't have to be angry 24 hours of the day.  Yes or no?   That's enough. Nobody wants to come near you, isn't it? Everything else is clean and washed up properly. Just one blob of filth on your nose. Does anybody want to touch you? Huh? No? So that's all it takes, I'm saying. You don't have to be nasty throughout the day. Once in three days you practice nastiness. That's enough to be tired of you, isn't it? So you must get the dirt out of the way.  So you have to make it more competent and more capable and more conscious. The same clay can be made into so many things. Yes? You can make a ball and throw it at somebody or you can make a pot out of it. You can make a very… just a pot to hold water or you can make a very beautiful ornamental pot or you can make porcelain out of it. You can do many things depending upon how many processes you're willing to do to that, isn't it? A piece of clay. So this is just that, a piece of clay. Depending upon how many processes you're willing to do to this one, accordingly this becomes a completely different thing. Maybe you're just a brick or maybe a pot or maybe a very beautiful pot, maybe a porcelain pot. Today porcelain is being used even in engines, automotive engines, you know this? You know? They're making pistons out of porcelain. It's the most efficient thing. It can take any kind of temperature. So it depends how many processes the same soil has gone through, isn't it? And you are also made of the same material. Depending upon how many processes you've put through, accordingly the quality of this keeps on rising. So the quality of it rises, if it happens without the necessary distance, that itself will become an entanglement. So practices concerning earth element are taught in a particular way so that this balance happens of competence and space. Both should happen together.


Interestingly, that Joseph Fawcett that I was telling you about, Joe Fawcett had a great grandson by the name of William Monroe Trotter, who founded with W. E. B. Du Bois the Niagara Movement. He was an activist himself, a very, very well educated man, and all of the families, the Hughes family, the Fawcett family, the Hemings family, all took on responsibilities that were in many ways civic responsibilities. Frederick Madison Roberts that you'll see on this end was the first African American legislator in California. And you will see also that the descendants of Sally Hemings and of Eston and Madison fought in the Civil War. So that continuation of family, the continuation of faith, Peter Fawcett became a minister. And it was Peter who said this, my parents were here in Ohio. I wanted to be with them and be free, so I resolved to get free or die in the attempt. Peter ran away several times and was recaptured. And finally with the help of his family, his freedom was bought and he finally arrived, finally rejoined his family in Ohio. I thought this was one of the best museum exhibits that I'd ever seen and I was particularly impressed because it's really sensitive. Plus, it's the Smithsonian Museum of American History. It's on the Mall, it's yards from the White House and a stone's throw from the Congress building. And there's the sense like this is the official history. I mean it has this sort of weight based on where it is and the fact that it's the Smithsonian. What struck me was I was wondering if this means like how far we've come as a society because do you think 50 years ago you could have had that exhibit like this? No, I mean that's something that they didn't talk about but I love the way that you're thinking kind of, you know, in terms of this as a source. I mean if you went back 50 years ago, totally different. I like the human touch to it because they're much more complicated and they have to deal with their times. We know a great deal about a small number of the enslaved at Monticello. I told you there were over 600. I've introduced you to maybe 30 or 40 that we know a great deal about. Don't you dare leave thinking that those other 500 are not important as well. The fact that we have their names is a testament to Jefferson's record keeping and also to the history and the historians who have made this all happen. But if you asked me why I would say that Jefferson was anomalous and that he was not a normal. Jefferson said that he did not want and I'm paraphrasing but he said he wanted his enslaved population to respect him. He did not want them to fear him. He tried to keep the families together. He discouraged abroad marriages. He tried to get them to marry on the mountain so that the family was together there. And so all of that is what makes me suggest that as a slave owner, now I don't think that there is such a thing as a good slave owner, especially someone like Jefferson when you think of the fact that he was governor of Virginia, when you think of the fact that he was a two term president, when you think of the fact that he was secretary of state, he had a variety of opportunities to do something significant about the institution of slavery. He never did. And so there is that reality to him but there's also the other reality. And I think the public Jefferson and the private Jefferson are two different Jeffersons all together. In order to see Jefferson clearly, you have to see him through the lens of its enslaved community as well.


Welcome back to Investor Intel. I'm actually here today with Adrian Nixon, who's a senior editor for Investor Intel. Adrian's going to talk about what I think is one of the truly unique subjects we'll talk about on this program. Adrian, what on earth is a space elevator? I'm glad you asked. If you'd have asked me that a year ago, I wouldn't have known how to handle that. I wouldn't even know what one was. Simply put, we normally get into space by sending a rocket up, so you get very hot and it's very dangerous going up, and then it's very hot and dangerous coming back down again. So not ideal, but there's a $300 billion industry around all that. A space elevator is a simpler idea. It actually goes back about 100 years, but the idea is you put a satellite into orbit and put it into geostationary orbit. And what that means is you have a satellite which is directly above you, always, all the time. So if you drop a cable from that satellite all the way down to the ground, in principle, you could climb up the cable and be in space quite safely and cheaply and without all the fuss. That's roughly what it is. Okay, so we've covered what a space elevator is. Where does the graphene fit into it? Well, the idea of a space elevator is so simple and productive, but it's simpler than one thing and really harder than another, and the illustration is NASA at the turn of the century, which sounds a long time ago now, but about a decade ago, the investigation of the space elevator is one of the millennial challenges, and they said, is it really possible to build it with today's technology? The answer that came back after a couple of million dollars of feasibility study was, yeah, most of the problems that you can solve require technology that's around today, apart from one. And that's the material that you make the tether which connects the satellite to the ground. It needs to be incredibly strong. And everything got parked, so the whole project was sort of put on hold because no material really existed that was strong enough and long enough. Anyway, ten years later, come on graphene, and I'm pretty sure an article in Investor Runtel about using graphene for elevated cables. And then these guys at the International Space Elevator Consortium contacted me through Investor Runtel and said, you know what this graphene stuff you've been talking about? How strong is it? So I said, well, it's about 130 gigapastors. Why? How strong does your space elevator tell me to be? And it went silent and then said about 100 with all the safety measures in place. So it's actually 30% stronger than it needs to be if it can make the stuff. Well, I understand you're speaking at a conference about this subject coming up. Can you tell us a bit about that? Sure can, yeah.  They're holding a symposium next week in London. They're actually the seat at their conference. And I'll be talking to them about the state of the art of graphene manufacture. At the moment it can only be done in a little bit, but there are people out there who are starting to make it longer and longer pieces. And it's beginning to get to the attention of the big guys. So I'm there to tell them what's going on in the world and how far away it might be. Well, thank you very much for explaining to us. We'll look forward to talking further about what the investment opportunities might be. And I'll be in next. Thank you very much.