Hello, I am Akshima, and this is a pre-talk for the paper Time-Space Bounds for Finding Collisions in Merkle Damgard-Hash Functions. This is a joint work with Seao Goh and Jipong Liu. As the long title of our paper suggests, we study collision resistance with pre-computation in Merkle Damgard-Hash Functions. More specifically, we studied resistance against bounded length collisions. A natural question to ask is why study the pre-computation model? Well, simply because this model captures stronger and more practical adversaries that can pre-learn something about the hash function and use that to launch better attacks. To understand what I mean by bounded length collisions, let me first present the Merkle Damgard construction. These constructions use compression function H that take fixed sized inputs and output strings of fixed length. The construction takes salt and messages input. The message is broken into blocks of fixed size. So for the example in this diagram, the message X is broken into B blocks, X1 through XB, and then H is applied iteratively on these blocks. The key parameters in our model would be S, which is the length of the pre-computed information, T, which is the number of queries made to the compression function H, and collisions that would have to be found have to be B blocks long. There have been some prior works that have studied this problem for MD-based hash functions, and we present the results of these prior works in this table. CDGS was the first paper to study this problem, and they found that the advantage could be bounded by ST square over N, and they also gave a matching attack. However, the attack that they found gave collisions that were ordered of T blocks long. So the ACDW paper proposed that it was more meaningful to study bounded length collision finding. The best attack they could find for B block collision finding achieved an advantage of STB over N, and they conjectured that it was the optimal attack. However, they could prove the conjecture only for a restricted class of adversaries. For any adversary in the pre-computation model, they could prove their conjecture only for two block collision finding. The follow-up work of GK paper, which is a paper that has been accepted at this conference itself, managed to prove the ACDW conjecture for any constant B. More precisely, they gave a bound that has a factor of polylog S exponentially large in B, which reduces to a polylog factor when B is a constant. However, this bound quickly becomes meaningless as B grows larger. The GK paper presented another bound of S to the 4T B square over N for any B and any adversary. Comparing their bound to our bound of STB over N times max of 1 and ST square over N, it is clear that their bound is looser than ours. In fact, the GK bound can be worse than ST square over N bound of the CDGS paper when SQB square is greater than T. In comparison, our bound would always be better than ST square over N bound of the CDGS paper. Let's look at our bound more closely. So what does our bound mean? It means that whenever ST square over N is less than 1, our bound is STB over N and this proves the conjecture of ACDW. Whereas for the parameter range when ST square over N is greater than 1, our bound would be ST square over N times STB over N, which is still better than ST square over N. This shows that finding bounded length collisions is harder than finding collisions where there is no restriction on the length. To learn more about the new techniques we used to achieve better bounds, please attend our talk at crypto. This is when and where our talk will be. Hope to see you there. Thank you.


Welcome. Today we are focusing on getting organized with digital portfolios and maybe you are someone who is moving from a paper portfolio system to a digital portfolio system and we're going to kind of walk through various aspects of both today. I'm Angela. I taught kindergarten for 15 years. I have, I'm a mom of two kiddos. I have now a fourth and seventh grader. And I lead the community team here at SESA supporting teachers getting going and also staying engaged with SESA as well from all over the world. So you can follow me at Mrs. Gadki. Let me know how you do it with your CSI and let's talk about a couple other things to note if you are watching this recording. We do offer certificates of completion for this session. So you're just going to want to listen for a six character code that I give throughout the session and you'll fill out a form that is available in the video description or in a follow-up email if you're watching the recording. So today's plan is that we are going to first talk about different types of digital portfolios and their purposes. We are going to work on creating folders and everyone's favorite topic, easier workflow, right? Save yourself some time. And then we're going to visit the topic of preparing for conferences which you might have coming up and then we're hopefully going to have a chunk of time at the end for your questions. So the first thing I want to just jump into are the various types of digital portfolios. So really when you start maybe rapping your reign about a digital portfolio or a portfolio in general, there's three main kinds that are usually talked about. A process portfolio, showcase portfolio and assessment portfolio. So they have some maybe similar characteristics. They're slightly different. So a process portfolio would really be a space that your students can use to document their learning throughout maybe a unit or throughout the process of a project. And it doesn't have to be a final beautiful end product that is only going into the portfolio. Now showcase portfolio on the other side of that would be mostly focused on really including that last piece of work. Maybe it shows a couple beginning stages, but mostly showcasing your best work at the end. And then an assessment portfolio, you might use that for gathering formative assessments or showing evidence of your work supporting various skills or standards. So I also link to an article that actually goes a lot more in depth in on this topic, but just generally that those are about the three main types of portfolios that are usually talked about. And the great thing is seesaw can be all three for you so you could use it in each of those various ways or maybe you want to really get started using it one particular way and then maybe add other components. So we're also going to talk today about folders and folders actually will also allow you to not only get a little bit more organized, but also be able to filter and sort out your folder, your portfolio, or your students can do that as well. So that can also be a place where maybe within a process portfolio like you're using maybe you're starting with that with seesaw and you want to pull some things out to really have more of a showcase portfolio. Your folders might come in handy for that type of work as well. So I want you just to think for a moment and take a second to first think about your purpose. Why are you hoping to use seesaw. What are you hoping to what need are you hoping to fill with the portfolio that you are creating so think about that for a moment. I always encourage teachers to, no matter what they're doing their classroom start first with your purpose. So just kind of giving you a brief introduction to various types, you may have already picked. Oh, that's absolutely how I'm going to use it. And you can kind of have that as a frame of reference as we continue our discussion here today. And I just also want to let you know it's completely okay to shift gears. So what I mean by that is sometimes if you have been doing something a certain way in your classroom and you already feel like you have a good system you might be thinking, why might I want to shift gears or how do I do this how do I even get started I'm not sure. So what I have on the screen here are a couple questions that you might ask yourself. So thinking first what did you include in a paper portfolio. So when I started teaching when I, you know, started teaching kindergarten. It was all paper. So we literally had physical portfolios that most of the time it was me trying to stuff, you know the pieces of work in and collected from students and you know get that get that all crammed in that paper portfolio. So if you're using that as your starting point. It's, it's kind of an easy way to begin to think about what did you include in that paper portfolio and again, why was it included in there who is the audience at the end that is going to either get this portfolio or view aspects of this portfolio. The other thing to think about is maybe you aren't using paper portfolios, but you maybe have binders right so I also myself transition into that as well. So maybe you have binders where you're keeping you know papers on assessment or checklist or you know other pieces of work that you still have in a binder. Think about how you might be able to shift gears and how that could potentially live in Seesaw. The other thing I want you to start thinking about is what do you currently do to prepare for conferences so I know when we talk about family conferences, or parent teacher conferences. We all kind of maybe have our different routine for getting ready for those and normally, there's a lot of work right you're always you're always kind of trying to plan what are you going to talk about what are you going to show what are the discussion of points or conversations you're going to have with your families. So we're going to get to kind of touch on all of those today as we get started here. So the first thing I actually want to show you and I'm going to before it happened to this slide I'm actually going to go into a Seesaw class. This is a grade grade class that I use for various sessions and what I first of all want to point out to you is that Seesaw itself is creating a portfolio for each of your students. So when you're in Seesaw and you're in as a teacher when you scroll, you are seeing your entire classes journal or portfolio. As you know, each of these individual student names if I click on Ali, for example, now I am just seeing her individual portfolio. So already just embedded in Seesaw, you are already creating that digital portfolio for each student. So anytime that they are posting, you're already doing it and you might be thinking, oh my gosh, it was that easy and I'm going to say yes it was. Okay, so that's really step step one is to realize, again, transferring from maybe what you were using in a paper portfolio or binder. A lot of that can just go into Seesaw and save you a whole lot of hauling and shuffling and sorting and organizing. So number one, it's probably already more organized if it's inside Seesaw. But the next thing I actually want to talk about is how to get even more organized when you start using folders in Seesaw. And again, folders are really used as a way to filter a student's portfolio. Okay, so when I go into my third grade class right here, I can create all sorts of folders. So in order to do that, I first can start in the upper right in my class settings so I can tap on their wrench. And once I tap on the wrench, I will be able to scroll all the way down here to a section that says folders. Now you can choose to manage folders and what that is going to do, it's going to bring you to all of the folders you have created. So let's start there. Now you can see I already have some folders created for this class. You'll also notice some of these folder names have emojis pasted in. And that is a pro tip for those of you that are maybe working with younger students. That's a really good way to kind of give them that picture queue as well as to what folder they are adding to. Now in order to create a folder, it's as easy as just tap and create folder. I'm going to choose a color and I actually am on a MacBook. So I am going to say I'm going to get emoji.com by the way, because I like to go here sometimes and copy and paste from here. So I'm actually going to copy this little detective folder or emoji. I'm just going to paste it right there and I'm going to call this science explorations. Okay, so there is my folder. Now again, you can paste an emoji in to the name of the folder. Again, the reason we're doing that is just to give a little picture queue if you're working with it. The other thing I want to show you is this one up here at the top has a period at the beginning of the name. And that is a special tip to let you know that that folder is going to rise to the top of all of your other folders. Okay, so if you're if you're doing something where you want students to just pick one specific folder and not have them try to, you know, search through these, then you would maybe use that trick. Um, so I've created a folder science explorations. Now, what does this look like in my class. So if I X out of there, I'm still in class settings. I want to look at this option right here show add to folder step. Right now, if I click on here there are three options. Do you never want to show this that means you don't have folder setup. Do you want only teachers to be able to see the opportunity to add to a folder, or would you also like students to have the operability, operability, oh my goodness, opportunity to add to a folder as well. So if you want your students adding to a folder as they are posting to see some make sure you have this option selected. So I'm just going to go like that. Now what I'm going to do right now is actually show you the flow of this. And I'm going to go to the green add button. I because I'm signed in as a teacher. I'm just going to choose post student work. I'm going to draw a wonderful masterpiece right here. And I'm going to tap the green check in the upper right. I'm going to choose my name. I'm playing around. So I'm going to say sample student upper right for the green check and now I have my opportunity to choose a folder. So I'm going to put this in science explorations. Your students can also choose multiple folders as well. So if you are doing, you know, an amazing lesson that really incorporates all sorts of subject areas they can also tag those folders. So just because I created science explorations we're going with that one. I'm going to tap the green check. And that post is being uploaded and added now of course because I'm in the teacher in the teacher view. I don't have to approve it because I just post it as a teacher. So you'll see under the post it is tagged with the science exploration folder. Okay, so I can also go to previous posts and just tap the folder icon under it. And then put it in a folder. So maybe I want this one to go in social studies and best of third grade. I don't know making it up tap the green check. And you'll see it's tagged with those two folders. Again, I can go to each of these and add it to a folder. I could do that one on time so that is something you could do after the fact if you're just starting to use folders now and you have a lot of content in your class you could do that. Now the great thing about folders and why they're helpful is because right now if I tap on the class journal that means everything in my class. I can tap on the right and I can see this folder icon. If I click there, I am able to say oh I only want to see math items right now so I'm going to click on math. And my feed is only going to show math work. Okay, so that's one way to filter it helps of course have a folder. I could also click on an individual student name so I'm going to Angela. And if I click on Angela I can tap on the right and then I could choose oh I'm going to go to Angela's got nothing in a folder so if I chose math it would show all of the math work in that one place. Let's try with that with Karina she might have more work in folders let's see oh look at this. So Karina has three items in the best of third grade. So here they are. Okay, so speaking of best of third grade if you actually go to our YouTube channel there's a whole video about this concept of creating a best of folder that will come in handy. At the end of your school year. It might also be something that you want to create in your classroom if you're doing student led conferences and we'll talk about that as we kind of keep progressing. The other thing I want to show you here if I tap on this folder. I also have a private teacher only folder, and that is available if you have the premium features of seesaw included in seesaw plus or seesaw for schools. Now what it means is exactly what it says here teachers only. So that means if you put something in a private teacher only folder, no one will see it. Don't get notified students don't see it only you have access to it. So you might use that if you know you have a specific assessment that you don't want to share or post you could put it there for example. Okay, so I'm going to get back into our slides and show you a couple more things so the other thing to think about is when you are starting with folders. It's best to not go too wild. Okay, start with a few key folders. In my classroom we started with the writing folder and that's that's what we started with first because that's what I was ready to organize to kind of the next level. We just show I just showed you how you go to manage class or your class settings, and then that show to students and teacher stuff and we just created some so I kind of already showed you that. The other thing to think about to is if you or if you have a co teacher or like a specialist, for example, maybe you create a folder for the specialist so that when they are posting from the specialist class. Then that work can be tagged with that class so there's a little bit more context for families as well when they see it. Other options is what I call a wow work folder, so that might be something where again you're having students reflect and pick out their best pieces to highlight in a certain folder, or a conference folder as well. If there are certain things you want to pull out to just show at conferences, which we'll talk about in a little bit, but we love to have using workflow goals right so I'm going to give you a couple tips. How your workflow might be used here. Boy, we've all been here right when you're hauling home all sorts of binders and stacks and notebooks and all of that. So again, think of seesaw as this place that all of that can live. So you're not trying to get that organized and haul it home and your wheelie cards and all of that. So when I was one of the ways that I share and explain about the use of folders and or portfolio is with writer's workshop so again when you're using seesaw you are already creating a portfolio for each student just by having them post. Now, as I mentioned a moment ago, I started with a writing folder because I wanted to have a very, a folder that really showed my students growth specifically related to writing. So at the end of every month, the students would choose one piece their very best piece that they would, you know, decide to add to seesaw. And of course they were posting with seesaw during writer's workshop at other times. However, this was the one time during the month that they chose one that would go inside the writing folder. And I did that. So we would have a sample from September and October and November and December. So we could filter by that folder and really, really see that growth quite quickly and have that those pieces to really highlight that. When we're talking about easy workflow. It's also good to know that you can tag an activity with a folder before you assign it to your students. So as I just demonstrated before. If you're at this session, you're like, oh my gosh, I so much work in my seesaw class. I want it all organized in folders. You could do that. I mean, you could just go at it, right. Or you could start when you are sharing an activity you could start by posting typing a folder. So let me just show you what that looks like. So as a teacher, if I were going to assign an activity. And let's say, related to what I was just saying about writing, maybe it's an assessment or a piece of work that you want to have from every single student. And you want to make sure that's in their portfolio say for conferences. So what I would do. I think a great place to start actually is in our seesaw activity library. Getting started collection because in the getting started collection. There is an activity that includes writing and reflecting. So I'm in third grade right now. So I'm going to tap on this one. This is right and reflect. So a little slightly different than what you'd see in my kindergarten class with writers workshop, but I'm going to choose a sign.  I'm going to choose this class but right now I can tap over here to folders, and I can choose the folder I would like to tag with this post so I'm going to say writing folder. And then I'm going to top the green check. So when I assign this to this class I'm actually going to put it in a different class how about the class I'm in the third grade rock star class right the one that we're we've been playing it I'm going to go to folders again sorry. And of course I don't have a writing folder so let's create one quickly. I'm going to create our writing folder. There it is. So when I share this out as students respond to this activity, it's already going to be tagged with the folder so let me just pretend I'm a student. I'm going to respond quickly. Okay, so in the example there was a note. I love third grade. Your students are going to be much more impressive than this right now when I tap the check. And you'll notice that it's going to be added and you'll see the folders already tagged right there, which is awesome again saving you some time as a teacher. The other thing I want to show you then is one more thing that might come in handy when you're getting organized and using folders so the other thing that you can do is you can tap the folder icon here. Say I'm doing a special project or say there's something one particular piece for conferences that I want to display outside my classroom. I could go to the folder for that special project. And then I have the option of printing a PDF. So what this will do is this will print a PDF of all the pieces of work in this folder. And you need to, if you're creating a digital portfolio but maybe you are still required to have a paper copy of a portfolio. This could be an option for you so it comes with a nice little cover page, and then it shows all of the posts and the QR code that would lead to the post so if you're doing a hallway display this would also come in handy too. That option you are going to see on a computer from the website that print PDF, when you sort by a specific folder. Okay, so talking about preparing for conferences right so everyone kind of you know could be a stressful situation but a couple things I want to show you. Number one we have a website completely devoted to preparing for conferences so the addresses right here so make sure you hop onto that site and really think through and look at our tips of how you can save some time preparing for conferences and I kind of already showed you step one preparing and maybe creating a conferences folder. The other thing I want to let you know about as well when you're using digital portfolios. Teachers have this moment of panic and I had it myself my first year using seesaw. I thought oh my gosh wait a second what's going to happen I've the parents have already seen all this stuff and seesaw what I'm going to show them what I'm going to talk about right. Couple things. Number one what I realized was that conversations can move beyond revealing. Okay, I don't think any family member loves to be surprised at a conference. So the fact that your families have seen this work in seesaw is not a big deal. That's great, because when they come in, you are not, you know showing them something they've never seen and that can create a lot of stress, but you're able to show progress over time, add additional context to the conversation and really focus on next steps and have time for that conversation within that 15 minutes or 10 minutes or 20 minutes that you have. You're not spending the majority of your time revealing to them and showing them things for the very first time. So that is a common question that we get like I want to edit to see somebody don't want parents to see it because we're going to talk about it at conferences. I would really encourage you to move beyond that, give it a try. It's okay to share it ahead of time and just go with it. Now if you really really really don't want them to see it you could use a private teacher folder that I did show you, but I highly recommend that you just go with it and give it a try and really enjoy those deeper conversations that you can have because you're talking beyond that you know revealing for the first time and showing work that way. So, boy we weren't really really fast, and we have some time for questions I also want to pause and give the code if you're looking for the certificate if you're watching the recording the code is 837261 and questions I'm going to pop into questions right now. And before I get into them I'm going to give you a moment to type, but please visit our community on all of these different channels if you're not already connected. This is a fun place to hop in the conversation.


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But I'm just trying to wear a hat because I didn't wash my hair today and I have to go to Bible study. But like now I have to go back home and change because my son made a comment and he was like, Mom, that hat looks good on you.  That's it. I'm going home. I got to change. Boom. Bam. That's how you fix that. Hiding in the shower to scare my husband. 20 minutes later. Hey baby, what you want me to separate? The lights are the darks. Oh, she wants me to separate. Baby, I thought you were in the kitchen. Bro, why would you be in the damn shower? What did I hit, baby? I'm sorry. What did I hit? Bro, come here. Let's go get some ice. Come on. Can you move your hand? Are you glued to the concrete? So I went on a spontaneous bumble date this evening. I matched with the guy today and he asked me to go to a dive bar that I've been to before and I like, so I said yes. And we were vibing. It went pretty well.  Are we going to do whatever? Well, he went to the bathroom and he came back and basically said that he felt like I misrepresented what I looked like in my bumble pictures and that he thought I was going to be thinner in person. And it was really purple. Like, that's the only thing that ever happened like one time before. And yeah, it was really shitty. And he used it under the guy said being honest. And just guys, FYI, talking about a woman's body is never just being honest. It's being hurt.


All right, new versions go back There is no sound We have a live action plate and your Dragon and you got a hold out there. Yeah, it goes back. Okay So you're talking about a dinosaur shot dragon is created with live action plate So my first impression a couple things the tricky thing is Your color all of this starts to blend in Yes, I can see the difference here, but it's just I would find I Mean the Sun's over there. Maybe you can have a bit of a stronger Light to get some rim light here at the end, but I would definitely start changing the colors It gets it a bit It's a bit difficult to see. I See it. I know what it is But you might as well change the color So it's really visible and pops and then the other thing is it's very very slow At this point if I go four times faster There's more energy there's more interest to it. That's my main concern That it's so slow Because with that slowness you're also starting to kill the weight It's such a slow Flap because it's not a Half flap where he glides or it or she where it's kind of an adjustment I'm gonna stay up there. This feels like no, no, no, I'm flapping because I'm flying But they're so slow and it's there's an overall softness to the membrane and the Sides as well and especially here as you go down with this first and There's not that much drag in the tips here. It just feels like it's a very soft plane Where I'm not quite buying the sense of resistance and strength as he goes down All right, this I buy because you know you fold your wings as you go up and you do have a reversal here But again, it's very flowy soft And we have one two three four five six seven eight one two It's not that much in written but there's just there's an overall splininess and softness Where I know you're bound, you know to that plate doing this, but it could be something where it comes in Goes up and it does a bit of like a side turn check think Toothless, you know, not that this is super cartoony but something where there's more energy to it And there's more variation in the path I don't know if you want to add anything to it where Flies away and then there's a chopper, you know chasing things and shooting at it And that's why it has to go over there. It goes over there and then we shoot Against the the rock side as the the chopper comes in and flies behind it and there's a second one coming I mean, there's a bunch of stuff you could do But that's that's kind of where I'm at the main thing it's slow and There's a softness to the wing flapping and there were all shapes where I don't I don't sense a strong structure there That makes sense. I hope that makes sense But that's kind of what I have especially here too as you go up. We were so far forward into this and You bend a bit more back so that we are Like if that's your dragon, they're actually the figure eight but going back to front So this is the head it's back to front and this is borderline Getting into like we're up front here, and then we're almost swimming where the wings go back That's kind of that's my concern there But also first pass you let me know what you want to do in like how far you want to change this What your thoughts are different plates different dragon all that jazz like how far do you want to push this? So let me know all right. There's an email you can sign up You can start whenever you want you can submit whatever beyond you get 16 submissions either way like and subscribe would be awesome All right. Thank you


So we're here Checking out with Jake. Hey, what's up? Oh? With our display, so I'm taking a key from multi-taction. I'm doing hardware R&D without our displays, but we are how you doing I'm doing how are you? I'm fine. Thank you. What about you to a box? Yeah How many conferences did you go to video blogging it? Oh, man? We wait too many, but nowadays I'm Not blogging about it I'm actually playing with the stuff at at home. So I don't typically go this because you saw these Cool tray shows many cool text, but you're thinking hey, yes, we want to actually do it. I want to do it I don't want to just log about it or or play with them. I want to actually do it So that's what we do. We we do big ass touch screens and the purpose purpose is to build walls of touch and And how we do it is the best Best in the world you remember best in the world because you were you were looking at the let's say Windows and Android normal that stuff. You say hey, that's boring. Let's do something. Yes better the next level This is the next level. So we have normal LCD, but behind the LCD We have actually on each 55 in screen. We have 32 cameras. So we are blasting IR to your hands or or Or to pens or other object that you can use there and That's why it is the best in the world. We we actually see everything. So I can see we can see No, no, no, this is normal class and It's it's durable class and I have a code here And I put it here and I can open stuff. So it's it's really really Totally different than traditional touch if we go to a very small bezel the bezel is round four millimeters If there is a bezel it doesn't really matter if it's two three or four if it's there it's there But it's actually makes it really easy to make make this module so we can build as big like here We built it one for the Candy Crush That's 56 displays All this is like a TV show. Yes, and there's another one. So over 100 displays to get a working On a Candy Crush display or Candy Crush TV show so you can see them Actually actually touching the screen. Yes, and jumping on top of the Are they like the best Candy Crush players in the world? This is the best Candy Crush display in the world but we actually got a record on a The biggest touchscreen ever on this one. So this is a Guinness record I was going around one of the most modern museums in the world. Yeah, the Doha Oh, yes, you saw the Doha of Qatar. So there we have I think we have it here somewhere But we have a 45 displays. So 45 displays showing Missed it here. No, but yeah, Doha was it's really cool place. Is that the CIA? What was that? That's CIA. Yes, of course. No, I I I don't know what was that but we have a displays in a lot of museum a lot of corporate headquarters in learning places in and so you can Play or work with that also because we have our own software We can enable people to play more. So this is like a showcase software, so it's a data stream to show stuff to your customers or So the stuff that you're doing is pretty much like More than 8k sometimes yes, we can do 16k easily so so just having These modules together with one computer. We can we can easily Create walls with with over over 50 displays.  The best thing would be 16k AI 5G And then it's cool. Yeah, that is cool because you know the people are catching up slowly. They try to do 4k Yes, yes far beyond that, but we have been doing 4k for years. So nothing new on that and Here you can actually see this product is called UMB a shiny one with a with a Normal glass like temperate glass surface, but here we have our XMV with anti-clear and gorilla glass.  We can use We can use the same touch stuff and here this is our software called Canvas and that's for for collaboration and like mind-stirming and either sharing for the for the same same stuff to collaborate and mind-share and all that stuff is really important to be Perfect and great in the software integration. Yeah, how good is this? I think one of the key things here is Because it's based on our touch. It's it's like it just works But we have added so many things making it easier for different teams to collaborate together So this this can be live in several different offices. So it's real time in In many offices so you can share it without Traveling and we can also use the same software with other displays. So like here we have a Microsoft hub So you can also use anything on our software on other displays, of course It works best on the best touch screen, which is our our our display So it's like you can run it as an app on the windows. Yes, you can do that too and other platform too Yes, and what you run on yours This runs on windows or windows I windows I don't even know but like I said, I'm on hardware not software, but it's quite Quite it's quite This one is even set up on on either. What's the hardware we see here? Yeah, let's go behind So this hardware. Yep. So this is the display you can go come with me here Yeah, so typically we have some kind of frame or we install it straight on a fall wall But this is a curved frame nothing special just profiles and they're bolted together but Quite quite easy. No no fan noise. We have fans, but it's actually for for just to keep the air slowly moving So it's it's quite quite easy to ask of it.  You can see there is a aluminium Hang it there. It's It's easy. That's the stuff I do Like I I I'm drawing this actual mechanical parts how they work and how they interact this these mounts are also from us and These are designed for these special screens and you just design it in a way that people can figure out how to put it together Yes, yes, at least I'm hoping that but yes, it's quite easy We will actually many times we install the displays for our clients So not me but but our guys go to the client put the displays on Software on everything so so you are in Finland and Helsinki Helsinki. Yes Is an amazing cool city, right? It is the most amazing and most most child-friendly city in the world They said last week on on some news the children can just run in the streets Yes, we don't let them run on the streets, but but other than that. We let them run free Yes, and we let the baby sleep out in winter without parents. So yes And now pretty much for sure. You're the best technology company in Finland, right? Because for sure. Yes, there's no Nokia anymore and they went anyway. So yeah, so that's pretty cool Hey, let's go to the table Table first then we grab actually So so of course some people may remember some Table stuff from Microsoft and others so we cannot also use our displays as a table You just put the legs in and that's it Oh, you can of course design a fancy table around it But but all these things work here and here we are demoing that we can use these markers Markets to do stuff. So it feels like very natural the way you're touching and where yeah It is it really the the key with us has always been that the customer needs to touch it And when when you use it the first time, you know why it is better than anything else on the market.  Let's see if there is the technology No, no, no, where is the tech there? So you can actually see here what's happening So as we have the cameras behind the LCD we see the whole hand the palm everything So when you're doing stuff, we know that these are your hands and you are doing it And you are actually standing here like this one If I make it like this, I put my hand there it turns towards me So now if I go the other way, sorry It turns towards me again because it can see my whole hand So Also we have pens to write on so They they never go out of sync. So it knows this is a hand. This is a pen and and they cannot be How do you make that work with black magic? It's like I said, it's 16k AI 5g. We have all that You have some some pretty much exclusive IR kind of touch. Yes. Yes It's old. It's like what we were talking about this as a cutting edge is better than resistive from 10 years ago But this is the next step where you're going infrared. Yes So this is old stuff in a way, but we have been doing this over 10 years. So we have been advancing it We we can use now way much more processing power with like we have a small arm chips inside We have a have three of them actually so we can crunch the numbers so much better and our our system the The algorithm's rhythms to do this work so much better and then we'll keep working better and better every every year arms and One like Intel This because you kind of like merge the the stuff that the arm does to accelerate fully hardware acceleration Yes, even using the GPU in the arms Yeah, we used to have like a full PC inside the box now the arm chips are tiny like ready quite size chips And and everything is done locally and everything is running on that. Would you also have a server somewhere? Yes, of course the the video itself comes from the server So we have a server on that back room there and it's just connected with the show some more cool cool UI things You can do so it you can show some more cool different cool things You can yeah, so this is just a demo in the table stuff and and the object recognition, but Here here is a perfect demo normally on a phone you pinch and soon like this, right? We can do that, but we can also pinch and soon like this or like this so Because we see it it just works so much more natural It is it is good So are there like some high-end? Restaurants where people can order menu restaurants restaurants and museums and Education uses that but I think one of the new key things would be be corporate So having those huge displays to show big data or or or anything else that you need to see a lot of stuff at once So this is pretty much like the reception act like the big court. Yes, when you enter the reception you have But You have to put a limit you can't be too cool. No, there's no limit. There's unlimited touch So there can be thousand people now using this display or this together and there's absolutely no limitation You can add more blast at 200 Hertz So it will not go down no matter how many users there are and also with the displays We can use just one display or put 50 there of them together and Because these are modules. They are designed to work together and we can have it as a one touch surface And again with both Windows and Linux so but if you run 50 of them, you need a big server in the back room Yes, what how do you run this? How do you make this work? So there is like a quite a big Server with the latest and greatest processors. They might be for big installation there. There's like four GPUs all for running for 4k channels and we're combining the touch to them So it's really high and stuff like the one GPU can cost 4,000 So it's not a toy anymore But you're pretty much running a super computer. It is pretty much like that But but it's the GPU really that works not the not the CPU It's because this is intensively each of the modules are full HD. So so there's a lot of pixels All right, and you're getting every year with new or newer generation hardware. You're doing more and more stuff Yes, so yeah, so we manufacture everything else, but the actual LCD On ourselves. So every time we get the new new best stuff from from manufacturers like Samsung and LG We we we tend to go with that and build the better and better and because you have to take their panel Integrates, yes, and you have to work with all kinds of new technology that's coming out Yeah, you are looking into the future of tech. We are looking into that's why I'm actually here I'm looking into the future and and This is this our tech and our IP can be used on on so many different Sides of this deck. We can use it on the OLED on LED on whatever comes next. So that's that's the easy thing and and it's also One of the coolest things because this is like crazy Hard to do from scratch, but for us it's easy because we have been doing it so long. So, yeah It's crazy that there's a big companies in the US and they don't really know what what to do Yeah, yeah, you are like here in Finland and It's showing them how to do stuff. Well, actually I can I can check if our CEO is available No, it's not talking with him about the commercial side, but yeah, Finland is tiny country. So Maybe that's it, but we I think we sell quite a lot in US So that's for us a new new good. Let's try to check if he's a maybe about now is well. No, let's see Hey, so so what's the the big the big vision? What's the big what's what's your experience with the company? What's the latest? What's happening? What's happening in ten years from now five years from now five years from now? Wow You know unprepared answer is that you know I Think that These type of technology is becoming so adaptive that people you know They just go on the wall and start doing something and you don't need any like any minutes to learn what you do So you can do amazing things you can connect with your friends and you can you can connect with your business colleagues anywhere with any device This is where I believe that the technology takes us very soon and everything is very interactive very intuitive so so even the Even the education or the teaching process becomes more like you search information You are interactively all the time connected with things and instead of learning by heart you are Studying things on a go so so you search for information and and you connect those dots You work with the team and and and so you you get more productive in that way rather than individually doing stuff This is got to be an amazing story for the technologies sector of Finland right to the I'm just imagining here Can you tell some stories about how easy it is for you to convince customers to buy this solution because it's when it's big and it's Shiny yeah, and it's impressive. Yeah, it's got to be easy, right? Yeah, how do you pitch? How do you how I mean most people are visual and so instead of having some static things on the wall so we we wanted to make some guy lost in the space You know people are tempted To go and touch that's what we wanted to achieve. So So, you know, there's a meta meta rain Here so you can you can do things people want They have the child in their head. They want to touch and feel the things I think this is this is this is the way we differentiate from you know, many other Boots from here. So it's when you got that's all in you here when you got touch at Google or Microsoft the screen It's not natural. You want it's not easy to get Think the technology to feel like natural natural.  It's not it's not like ruled by some kind of You know process this is intuitive. You don't have to learn the UI No, no, no, how do you develop this? How do you at the company? How do you have the the whole software to? UX and all this who's doing this? How do you make this? Oh, we you know, we are based in Finland So we have a small team Which is connected to our customers and so we have almost daily base, you know, discussing with our customers You know what they want. So everything What you see is based on customer feedback. So customers wanted to have a feature when they have their own business card and and you can easily open your own menu that includes your Your the stuff that you you want And so for me, I love whiskey so we have a customer Clean fetish which is utilizing the technology in an innovative way So the people have been on a tour in a visc, you know, the whiskey sellers they come back They take the whiskey they put the whiskey glass on the table and they see what they drink So it's sort of extending the experience You know with the technology. It's a very nice application that Clean fetish has done for their customers. Is it possible that also your customers won't always more and more? So they're like asking for 2.0 3.0 and just update more and more functionality. Yes, how can you deliver this? Do you have also partners you partner with to do more stuff or so most of the time? We develop based on the priorities that we have agreed with the customers now recently We have opened apis that allows customers to provide content there. So You know, we just had that api like few months ago. So we are trying to build an ecosystem where customers could Build easily content with their tools that they have you know The knowledge and then link their database in there and get up-to-date information exactly Very important points. So you can you can actually connect some some of your customer databases through those apis so that you have the native native information In a great way and also Is there in the next five years ten years potentially Vision to like dominate the world for your company or what's we want to be We want to be the software where people want to build their content and Share that content real time, you know, wherever they are and whatever devices they have whether it's a cell phone So you can hook yourself to this dialogue any device at any time So that's that's our vision. We're gonna be number one on that and JKK is also number one and Let's grab the mic sorry for me, of course as I do the hardware stuff being like creating the best possible materials best possible parts for To build the whole display and the display walls is the key So if you if you know my background and see my videos You know that that best can be the only option. Yes, this is the best in the world How's the compare with the Arcos? well, I Don't know if Arcos is making big screens. Maybe they do I remember the resistive touch tablets and they weren't really the best even one One friend of mine told everyone that they are the best, you know Because it's important to keep on resistive when other people are doing capacity That's similar. I don't want Will I don't I wouldn't compare us to them? We are very big I think it's because you got the You got the Gemini 400 or you got one of the Arcos is you said I want to make a big one Yes, maybe that's right. Yeah, maybe we have to think about the resistive touch again But right now the machine learning a machine vision and actually we have now some machine learning also there He is really the way. What does the machine learning do? We we do that good. It works. We have patented it and That's why I think I will continue doing that and it's great fun for me It's really not easy, but it makes make these things stick so It's a cool challenge to have it's cool challenge Yeah, especially now when we're going bigger bigger and but also same time smaller and smaller smaller pixel size smaller Maybe even smaller units but building bigger bigger walls so yeah multi-taction


Live from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE. Covering VMworld 2017, brought to you by VMware and its ecosystem partner. Welcome back to theCUBE on day three of our continuing coverage of VMworld 2017. I'm Lisa Martin, my co-host for this segment is John Troyer and we're excited to be joined by Rob Young, who is a CUBE alumni and the manager of product and strategy at Red Hat. Welcome back to theCUBE, Rob. Thanks, Lisa, it's great to be here. So Red Hat and VMware, you've got a lot of customers in common, imagine you've been to many VMworlds. What are you hearing from some of the folks that you're talking to during the show this week? So a lot of the interest that we're seeing is how Red Hat can help customers, VMware or otherwise, continue to maintain mode one applications, legacy applications while planning for mode two, more cloud based deployments. And we're seeing a large interest in open source technologies and how that model could work for them to lower costs, to innovate more quickly, deliver things in a more agile way. So there's a mixture of messages that we're getting, but we're receiving them loud and clear. Excellent, you guys have a big investment in OpenStack. Yes, we do. And even back in the early days when OpenStack was struggling as a technology, we recognized that it was an enabler for customers, partners, large enterprises that wanted to create and maintain their own private clouds, or even to have a hybrid cloud environment to where they've maintained and managed, controlled some aspect of it while having some of the workloads on a public cloud environment as well. So Red Hat has invested heavily in OpenStack to this point. We're now in our 11th version of Red Hat OpenStack platform and we continue to lead that market as far as OpenStack development, innovation, and contributions. Rob, we were with theCUBE at the last OpenStack Summit in Boston. Big Red Hat presence there, obviously. I was very impressed at the maturity of the OpenStack market and community. I mean, we're past the hype cycle now, right? We're down to real people, real uses, real people using it. A lot of very people with a strong business critical investment in OpenStack in many different use cases. Can you kind of give us a picture of the state of the OpenStack market and user base now that we are past that hype cycle? So I think what you're, what we're witnessing now in the market is that there's a thirst for OpenStack. One, because it's a very efficient architecture. It's very extensible. There's a tremendous ecosystem around the Red Hat distribution of OpenStack and what we're seeing from enterprises specifically in the telco industry is that they see OpenStack as a way to lower their cost, raise their margins in a very competitive environment. So anywhere you see an industry or a vertical where there's a very heavy competition for customers and eyeballs, that type of thing, OpenStack is going to play a role in if it's not already doing so, it's going to be there at some point because of the simplification of what was once complex but also in the cost savings, it can be realized by managing your own cloud within a hybrid cloud environment. You mentioned telco and specifically OpenStack kind of value for companies that need to compete for customers. Besides telco, what are their industries are really kind of prime for embracing OpenStack technologies? So we're seeing it across many industries but finance and banking, healthcare, public sector, anywhere where there's an emphasis on the move to open source and to open compute environments, open APIs, we're seeing a tremendous growth in traction and because Red Hat has been the leader in Linux, many of these same customers who trust us for Red Hat Enterprise Linux are now looking to us for the very same reason on OpenStack platform because much like we have done with Enterprise Linux, we have adopted an upstream community-driven project, we have made it safe to use within an environment in an enterprise way, in a supported way as well via subscription. So many industries, many verticals, we expect to see more but primary use cases, NFE and telco, healthcare, banking, public sector are among the top dogs out there. Is there a customer story that kind of stands out in your mind as really a hallmark that showcases the success of working with Red Hat and OpenStack? Well, there are many customers, there are many partners that we have out there that we work with but I would say if you look at some of the four out of the five large telcos, Orange, Ericsson, Nokia, others that we've recently done business with would be really good examples of not only customer use cases but how they're using OpenStack to enable their customers to have better experience with their cell networks, with their billing, with their availability, that type of thing. And we had two press announcements that came out in May. One is an educational institution of a consortium of very high profile Northeast learning institutions, public institutions that are now standardized on OpenStack and that are contributing. And we've also got Oak Ridge, forgive me, it escapes me, but there's a case study out there on the Red Hat website that was posted on May the 8th that depicts how they're using our product and how others could do the same. Rob, switching over a little bit to talking a little bit more about the tech and how the levers get pulled. We're talking about cloud, right? Another term past the hype cycle, right? It's a reality. But when you're talking about cloud, you're talking about scale. We mentioned Linux, OpenStack and Red Hat, kind of built on a foundation of Linux, super solid, super huge community, super rich, super long history. But can you talk about scale up, scale out, data center, public cloud, private, how are you seeing enterprises and of various sizes address the scale problem and using technologies like the Red Hat CloudStack to address that? So there's a couple of things, there's many aspects of that question, but what we have seen from OpenStack is when we first got involved with the project, it was very much bounded by the number of servers that you needed to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure on. What Red Hat has done or what we've done as a company is we looked at the components and we have unshackled them from each other so that you can scale individual storage, individual networking, individual high availability on the number of servers that best fit your needs. So if you want to have a very large footprint with many nodes of storage, you can do that. If you want to scale that just when peak season hits, you can do that as well. But we have led the community efforts to deshackle the dependencies between components. So from that aspect, we have scaled the technology. Now, scaling operational capabilities and skill sets as well. We've also led the effort to create open APIs for management tools. We've created communities around the different components of OpenStack and other open source technologies. Automation, a big part of that as well. Automation as well. So if you look at Ansible as an example, Red Hat has a major stake in Ansible and it is predominantly the management scripting language of choice or the management platform of choice. So we have baked that into our products. We've made it very simple for customers to not only deploy things like OpenStack but OpenShift, CloudForms, other management capabilities that we have. But we've also added APIs to these products so that even if you choose not to use a Red Hat solution, you can easily plug in a third party solution or a homegrown solution into our framework or our stack so that you can use our tool set, single pane of glass to manage it all. So with that, can you tell us a little bit about the partner ecosystem that Red Hat has and what you've done sounds like to expand that to make your customers successful in OpenStack deployments? Absolutely. So as you're aware of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, we certify most of the hardware or all of the hardware OEMs on Red Hat Enterprise Linux. We have a tremendous ecosystem around Enterprise Linux for OpenStack. This is probably one of the most exciting aspects of Red Hat right now. If you look at the ecosystem and the partners that are just around OpenStack on its own, we've got an entire catalog of hundreds of partners, some at a deeper level than others, integration-wise, business-wise, whatever. But the ecosystem is growing and it's not because of Red Hat's efforts. We have customers and partners that are coming to us saying, we need a storage solution. We're using NetApp as an example. You need to figure out a way to integrate with these guys and certify it, make sure that it's something that we've already invested in is going to work with your product as well as it works with our legacy stuff. So the ecosystem around OpenStack is growing. We're also looking at growing the ecosystem around OpenShift, around Red Hat Virtualization as well. So I think you'll see a tremendous amount of overlap in those ecosystems as well, which is a great thing for us. The synergies are there and I just think it's only going to help us multiply our efforts in the market. Go ahead, John. Rob, talking again, partnerships, I've always been intrigued at the role of open source, upstream, the open source community, and the role of the people that take that open source and then package it for customers and do the training and enablement. So can you talk maybe a little bit about some of the open source partners and maybe how the role of Red Hat in translating all that upstream code into a product that is integrated and has training and is available for consumption from the IT side? Sure. So at Red Hat, we partner not only with open source community members and providers, but also with proprietary. So I just want to make sure everybody understands we're not exclusive to who we partner with. Upstream, we look for partners that have the open source spirit mind. So everything that they're doing that they're asking us to either consider as a component within our solution or to integrate with, we want to make sure that they're, to the letter of the law, contributing their code back and there's no hooks or strings attached. Really the value comes in, are they providing value to their customers with the contribution and also to our combined customers? And what we're seeing in our partnerships is that many of our partners, even proprietary partners like Microsoft, as an example, are looking at open source in a different way and they're providing open source options for their customers and subscription based consumption based models as well. So we hope that we're having a positive impact in that way because if you look at our industry, it's really headed towards the open source, open API, open model and the proprietary model still has a place and time, I believe, but I think it's going to diminish over time and open source is going to be just the way people do business together. One of the things that you were talking about kind of reminded me of one of the things Michael Dell said yesterday during the keynote with Pat Gelsinger and that was about innovation and that you really got at companies to be successful and need to be innovating with their customers and it sounds like that's definitely one of the core elements of what you're doing with customers, you said customers and partners are bringing us together to really drive that innovation. Yeah, I couldn't agree more and it's an honor to be mentioned in the same breath as Michael Dell, by the way, but what we see is because of the open source model you can release early and often and you can fail early and what that does is encourage innovation so it's not only corporations like Red Hat that are contributing to upstream projects. OpenStack as an example or Linux as an example or KBM as an example, there's also college students, there's people out there who work for Bank of America, across the fruited plains all over the world and the one thing that unites us is this ability to recognize the value of our contributions to an open source community and we think that that really helps with agile development, agile delivery and if you look at our project deliveries for OpenStack as an example, OpenStack releases a major version of its product every six months and because of contributions that we get from our community we're able to release and testing, it's not just contributions come in many forms, testing is a huge part of that, because of the testing we get from a worldwide community we're able to release shortly after a major version of upstream OpenStack because of that innovation in a pure waterfall model, it's not even possible in an open source model, it's just the way of life. So as we're kind of wrapping up VMworld day three what are some of the key takeaways for you personally from the event and that Red Hat has observed in the last couple of days here in Las Vegas? So there's a couple of observations that have kind of been burned into my brain. One is we believe at Red Hat our opinion is that virtualization as a model will remain core not only to legacy applications mode one but also to mode two and the trend that we see in the model that we see is that for mode two virtualization is going to be a commodity feature. People are going to expect it to be baked into the operating system or into the infrastructure that they're running the operating system or the applications on. So we see that trend and we've suspected it but coming to VMworld this week helped confirm that and I say that because of the folks I've talked to after sessions at dinner in the partner pavilion. So I really see that as a trend. The other thing I see is that there's a tremendous thirst within the VMware customer base to learn more about open source and learn more about how they can leverage some of this not only to lower their total cost of ownership and not to replace VMware but how they can compliment what they've already invested in with faster, more agile based mode two development. And that's where we see the market from a Red Hat standpoint. Excellent, well there's a great TEI study that you guys did recently, total economic impact on virtualization that folks can find on the website and Rob, we thank you for sticking around and sharing some of your insights and innovations that Red Hat is pioneering and we look forward to having you back on the show. It's great to be here, thanks. Absolutely and for my co-host, John Troyer, I'm Lisa Mart and you're watching theCUBE's continuing coverage, day three of VMworld 2017. Stick around, we'll be right back.


Good afternoon, everybody. And I'm pleased to welcome you to this IIEA webinar towards a common European asylum system. We're delighted to be joined today by Nina Grigori, Executive Director of the EU Agency for Asylum. And thank you so much for your time today, Nina. You all will be able to join in the discussion during the questions and answers which you can find on the Zoom. And you should feel free to send in questions during the presentation. I'd like you to maybe give your name and if possible, any affiliation that you might have. I also will remind you that today's question presentation and questions and answers are on the record. And you are free to join our discussions on Twitter using the handle at IIEA. I'd now like to formally introduce Ms. Nina Grigori. Ms. Grigori has been actively involved in the development and work of the EUAA since its beginning. She was a member of the Agency's Management Board from 2015, and then in 2019 she took up her role as Executive Director. She's previously worked at the Ministry of the Interior in the Republic of Slovenia for over 20 years, occupying the Senior Management Post of Director General for over a decade, responsible for asylum, migration, integration and internal administrative affairs. Ms. Grigori has also served as a National Delegate in the Expert Working Group Migration at the OECD and as a member of the Advisory Board of International Center for Migration Policy Development. So you will see from her CV that she is very, very experienced and a very good person to have in charge of this agency, which of course, as you know, is based in Malta. Our discussions today will look at the development of the EU's common asylum system, which has been undergoing for two decades back when in the late 90s when I was Minister. We were dealing with this issue as well. So it is an area that will continue to exercise us at a policy level. The new pact on migration asylum was presented in 2020 to, as it were, jump start discussion of the reform of the CEAS and to build a comprehensive migration and asylum system. So Nina Grigori is going to spell out for us paint a picture of developments and outline where policy stands at the moment where countries are working together. And of course it's a very relevant moment because of the geopolitical developments that has led to novel approaches. So I now would ask Nina Grigori to address the meeting and after which we will then have questions and answers so Miss Grigori thank you. So, thank you very much, Nora. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. It is really a great pleasure for me to be with you, virtually, of course, today for this discussion and I'm really thankful to the international. International European Affairs here in Dublin for this in kind invitation. I will begin with a look at where we are coming from in development when it comes to European unions common asylum system and the innovations in visiting the new pact on migration and asylum. And then try to turn to the actual implementation of the legislation of to the work of our asylum agency and the novelties that our new mandate as both about. And I will try to conclude with a brief, brief look into the future. That's of course always difficult, but to the extent that this is possible. I will start with common European asylum system for more than 20 years EU institutions and new member states have been working to create implemented also improve of course the legislative framework on migration and asylum. So it, everything started back in 1999. So when the European Council committed to establish a common European asylum system. The commitments made in the so called temporary program, which goal was also to set up the then in the treaty of the functioning of the European Union itself. So the first phase of this common European asylum system so several legislative instruments adopted between 1999 and 2005, as Nora mentioned, which established directives with minimum standards on asylum procedures on reception and qualification for protection. Since then, of course, efforts have continued in order to develop the system to achieve a greater level of convergence, and also uniformity and unity among the member states. So this minimum standards established in the first phase, were replaced then by common asylum and reception standards, while the W regulation and Eurodeck were also strengthened in the second phase of common European asylum legislation, which was completed back in 2013. However, the national implementation of asylum procedures and also reception conditions, continued to vary from member states to members say state quite significantly. There are various reasons for this, but let me pick on two broad ones. The first one is that the directives of the EU legislation and legislative instruments allow and they still out of this today of course, for differences in how member states transpose them into the national legislation. And the second point is that the legislation on its own, it's not, let's say sufficient enough to achieve convergence of course. This is also about implementation and how the legislation is actually applied in practice. So, and this brought together I would say points became very, I would say also painfully evident with the 2015 and 16 migration crisis, leading to the presentation in 2016 of several new proposals to reform our common European asylum system. As always, as always when it comes to a sensitive area like migration and asylum negotiations on those third generation proposals were not easy. Not least because of course most stunned into directly applicable regulations, but for some of the proposals not negotiations pretty much stalled for others, good progress was made, but they could not be finally adopted. So basically the third generation of test so common European asylum system, state on the table in Brussels, because the number of member states as well as European Parliament insisted on a package approach. So they've said, nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. So in order to address the situation. Two years ago, on the 23rd of September 2020, the new commission presented a new pact on migration and asylum. A complete in a way complimenting, and to some extent also replacing the 2016 proposals that have never been adopted. So, in this respect, we are still in the negotiation process of the common European asylum system as it should be, or as it was presented by the Commission in 2020. So let's take a look at this new pact. And let's take a look at the key innovations let's say that were introduced by the new pact on migration and asylum. So the new pact aims to establish a comprehensive common framework to achieve more coherence and convergence in the asylum procedures. So, it tries to make procedures more effective, while trying to strike in a way a fair balance between solidarity and responsibility. And we see this for example in the proposal to establish a screening procedure, which will also include identification and security checks of migrants, but also health and vulnerability checks. So this proposal covers a lot of what Member States already do in practice, but it aims also to achieve some uniformity in the checks of those migrants who are arriving to Europe or will arrive to Europe regularly at the external borders, and important part of that forward with this proposal was that this in fact, tried to as I said, uniform the, the actual implementation of the national legislation already. In June this year, the Council approved the negotiating mandate for this particular file, but now we're waiting, if the European Parliament will also support that. The second important act in the new proposal of the pact is so-called Eurideak proposal, or amended Eurideak proposal, which would render the system of interoperability with other large scale IT systems that are already existing in the field of justice and home affairs. It would finally give us a much clearer and really accurate picture of the number of asylum seekers in European Union, whether they receive protection, whether they were returned, whether they engage in a secondary assistance, and so on. So it does envisage also a separate category of persons brought ashore following search and rescue, and also this proposal in a way will try to fit in the registration of beneficiaries of temporary protections such as now, such as there are now millions. Further on, the Council negotiating mandate for the Eurideak regulation was approved also in June. And again, we're waiting now for the European Parliament to see how this will be accepted by them. Then there is the asylum procedure directive and the qualification directive that we already have, and they are of course valid, but in the new pact, those two were proposed to be replaced by regulations. So meaning that this would obviously make them directly applicable in the member states, and there will be no need for transposing them into the national legislation, but they're still pending as other proposals from the pact. And then I would say last but not least the asylum and migration management regulation proposal. This is the proposal which would replace the very known Dublin regulation. And this proposal also aims for a more coherent and holistic approach to asylum and migration with let's say a further better functioning system to identify the member states that are or should be responsible for for the asylum application, but also it includes a proposal for a solidarity mechanism to allow for better sharing of the burden or of the migrants among member states. As you might imagine, this is of course the most complex proposal that it is in the fact, and also it is very complex when it comes to negotiations in finding this compromise between responsibility on one hand and solidarity on the other hand. It's part of the effort to balance those two so responsibility and solidarity. In June. This year, a number of member states signed up to a political declaration on solidarity. So during the French presidency. The council approved the position on your that can screen proposal and 19 member states signed a declaration to provide with a voluntary solidarity mechanism in the form of relocation, or other types of contributions particular financial contributors to leave, relieve the burden of the member states in the Mediterranean. So this I would say new voluntary mechanism is is set in place, and we will see whether the countries will relocate asylum seekers particularly from Italy and from and from Greece. Negotiations on the new pact are now of course continuous and for the only proposal which has been really successful and it has been adopted from this new pact is in fact the regulation for our agency so the regulation for the establishment of the agency for asylum or EUAA as we are called now. This regulation entered into force in January this year. So with this new regulation, our predecessor European asylum support office so as a has become a new European asylum agency. And of course, with with this replacement, we were happy because we've received, let's say additional mandates that I will touch upon a bit later in the presentation. So the actual implementation of the legislative framework that we do have in Europe with so called common European asylum system is something that is of course crucial when it comes to the functionality of the system itself. And if we want to have a truly common application of common European asylum system across Europe. It needs to also function in practice, not only of course on paper. And this is where of course our asylum agency plays a key role. And I will give you a brief overview of our work so what do we really do to achieve to help the member states, achieve the implementation of tests and also, of course, in a way to help them come closer together when it comes to converges and decision making process in the asylum field. As it's core of our agency is a central expertise on asylum and deception, and we have developed in our 10 years of existence, guidance, common country of origin information country guidance data analysis, recommendations so practical tools operational standards and indicators, and so on. And all of those, let's say practical tools or tools that can be used by member states, help member states and their officials and their daily work to actually apply the legislation and to do so in a similar way across you. I will give you a few very, let's say practical examples. For example, we have a practical guide on how to actually do the personal interview with the asylum seeker. And because of covid create created a lot of challenges for member states in this respect we also issued recommendations on remote personal interviews. So in this respect, if countries are using that they do the procedures basically on on the same foot so equally. We have of course then practical tools related to access to the asylum procedure, guidance on the implementation of Dublin registrations and guidance on the examination on the asylum applications, guidance on reception on how to assess vulnerability of the asylum seekers how to basically contact interviews with children. There are a lot of tools that, in fact, are relevant when it comes to the procedural aspect of the details, and addressing the emerging needs of members since in view of the arrivals of so many people from Ukraine. We have recently also issued practical recommendations on emergency placement in private accommodations for persons displaced from Ukraine because we do believe that this is highly highly relevant. We have set up several thematic networks which then brings member states experts together around one table to discuss the practices and to try to seek the best way, or the best solutions that could potentially fit all the new tools generally broadens the scope for our development of such tools. So of course I'm happy that at the end of the day, we will be able as European Agency for asylum also monitor the operational a technical application of common European asylum system. So as European asylum support office, we didn't have the mandate to really monitor the implementation of the system, but now we will have that as European asylum agency. And this will be operational with with the from the first of January 2024 on. So now we are in the stage of preparation of the methodology for monitoring, and I think this is going to be highly relevant. So to bring countries closer together and to, in a way, while inviting to use our tools that we developed. We also have very strong training and professional development center, meaning that, of course, we are trying to, we are preparing the so called training modules for all the officials on in all the member states that are working in asylum procedures. So we have more than 30 training modules that are available, both that are so introductory and advanced ones catering for specializations in member states if this is this is of course their their needs. We have had around 64,000 participations in our training since 2012. And we've trained really a lot of of course case workers a lot of vulnerability experts a lot of expert that are working in the field of asylum in member states. And now turn to our operation support of course this is something that has really grown exponentially. When I became executive director of the agency back in 2019. Our agency was providing operational support to two three member states. And we were in present in Greece in Cyprus and Italy, but now in 2022 where operation is supporting 11 member states, and we're working with other member states with the view to supporting them too. So I'm really proud that I can say that we are now working. Not only just in frontline member states, but also in other member states of Europe that have asked us for support. So we are now operationally present in five Mediterranean countries so we are present in Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Malta, Spain, and also in Latvia, Lithuania in Belgium in Romania and Czech Republic. We are also now finalizing so the operation operational plan with Bulgaria in fact I will sign it today. My Bulgarian counterparts already signed them that and then with Slovenia and and Austria, we are doing now the analysis of our potential common work there too. So this operation support basically is based on the request from the member states so we cannot invite ourselves but we are invited. And then we do together the needs assessment, and then the operating plan is prepared with some with measures and those measures they, of course, are different in different member states, according to their needs. So we can cover information provisions registration asylum interviews, preparing opinions on the asylum applications with support also the judiciary so the second instance. We support reception authorities identification and also as I said refer off vulnerable people. With the situation in Ukraine so with the war in Ukraine. The Council invited us and give us the mandate to be also active when it comes to the delivery of the temporary protection and the implementation of the temporary protection directive for Ukrainians and we do of course also help member countries with this respect with, we help them to register people will have them with interpretation will have them with fighting accommodation for Ukrainians, and we are really active also also in this respect. So maybe just briefly to touch also to the position of Island, because I think that's quite interesting island had opted in to as a regulation so the previous regulation and island has fully participated in the ages is activities. I also need to say that we had the chair of our management board, which has been our Irish colleagues for many years. That was Dr David Costello and we've really cooperated with him. And he was very active in the agency before now with the UA regulation that is replacing of course the other regulation islands will need to in a way. And of course, if there would be a decision, political decision taken will need to in a way opt in in the new regulation and then I do hope that of course this good collaboration with with island will will continue. And I just can touch briefly and look into the future so as we have learned in recent years asylum and migration can only be managed in a comprehensive UI the approach for which there is a shared responsibility for sure. And of course, of course, building a functional your common asylum system is possible and I really do think it's also necessary. We should, in a way, strive to have short and efficient and effective asylum procedure. And of course, there is a big puzzle in the migration management in Europe, not, not only in the member states where, of course, also effectively return of those who are not eligible for asylum needs to be needs to be in place. So, I think that with the temporary protection directive implementation we see that Ukrainians, of course they under the legal basis of the TPD they have given the choice, or where, so that they can move freely around Europe, which of course, as I'm secret scans. And I think that this new approach on how really Ukrainian situation and millions of people fleeing and receiving let's say protection Europe will affect the current negotiations on the fact will be will be highly relevant. I think that this let's say new approach now will affect discussion or the future discussion on the fact. I think that the, the member states are willing to apply the same solidarity principles during the crisis. As they shown for Ukrainian, or, let's say the same approach will be also applied for other asylum seekers that are coming from different parts of the world. So should we then think in terms of maybe in the future of mutual recognition of the free movement for all the asylum seekers not only for Ukrainians. I mean there are so many I would say open questions that for sure will need to be addressed in the coming in the coming years. Unfortunately, of course I don't have a crystal ball and I cannot give you the answers to this questions because, as you know, not political organization and management migration in European Union is usually highly political. So, but I really do hope that Europe will drag from this extensive experience that we are facing now in helping Ukrainians, you know, with the positive insights and this should be, let's say, a positive game changer also for the future of our common European asylum system. Nora, with that I would give the floor back to you and thank you very much. I hope that was not too long.


And that's basics of chakras. Believe it or not, we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of this incredible and complex topic. Chakras too will be a few weeks away though. Understanding the chakras is understanding the cosmic universal flow. It is a scaling and harmonizing of vibration between polarized frequencies. Just looking at the waveform alone, the vibration of red and the vibration of blue are completely different. Chakras are the exact same way. Now, when a person is focused on one particular chakra, their whole world is colored by the energy of that chakra. It is literally like a lens through which everything in existence is interpreted. In order to explain this clear, allow me to demonstrate what I'm talking about. You remember the qualities of each chakra, right? We cover that in part one. The brief overview is survival, sex, willpower, love and emotion, sound, sacred geometry of creation, and finally, spiritual awareness and understanding. So when a fractal or a piece of the everything known as spirit, consciousness or God comes into this brand new reality, such as a baby being born, they have one thing on their mind and one thing only. It's survival. They want to be able to survive and stay here. Their whole focus is on being able to survive. They're almost entirely dependent on their guardians at this time, and usually it is the mother and the father who take up that role. Depending on how well mommy and daddy do at making the infant feel safe, the quicker they can transcend to the next level. Nursing is a natural way to bring the child into a state of safety, as well as explore the next chakra simultaneously. The root chakra is synonymous with support from the environment around you. If a child is growing up in an unsafe space or there's a lack of nurturing to keep the child feeling safe and explorative, it will take longer for solid transition to take place and can even cause long-term damage to the understanding of the child, and they will grow up with many traumas, anxiety and pain. The moment survival has been achieved, it becomes clear to spirit that there are one or two more chakras available. There are actually two, but spirit may only see one. It cannot see beyond a half-step wall leading to the heart. The half-step hides the higher chakras from spirit, at least until spirit has learned to master the lower chakras. That wisdom of completion shows the way into the higher understanding. Once survival has been achieved, spirit desires to make contact with other beings in this reality. This is instinctual.  It is one of the youngest and earliest actions compelled by the sacral chakra, and it is sexual in nature. As you get older and your sacral chakra matures, the desire for contact shifts from the innocence of support from your mother to a different form that I'm sure we're all aware of. The essence of the sacra is to reach out, locate and make contact with the life that exists in the world around you. At a young age, it covers everything from holding your mother to snuggling a kitty, although it has been in a way programmed out of us by our own media and peer groups. Now that spirit has survived and made contact with other life in the world, the third chakra that is available is called the solar plexus, willpower. Spirit wants to know how things work. What are the laws of this new world? How does gravity work? How do you do things?  We're all familiar with the age called the terrible twos. It's a common age when spirit is very interested and full of willpower to want to know everything about the world around it, to test it and see what it can do and what it can't do. The child will continue until it's satisfied in its basic understanding of reality. When you're a baby, you are unaware that there is a change in the directions after the third chakra. There's something we call a half step obscuring the next four chakras. The child is not aware of the many more chakra lessons to come and how much more to life there really is. The child is oblivious to it. On earth, even when we become adults, we may still not know that there are higher centers in the body. Much of this world is still living in the first three chakras, but that is changing fast. Mother Earth is waking up.