Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. Welcome to the Promoting Responsible Leadership session of the annual meeting of the new champions 2019. A very warm welcome to all of you. I hope you enjoy the video just now. Introducing myself, my name is Nancy Zhu, anchor woman of Phoenix TV. I'm your MC and moderator for today's session. She's repeating herself, just what she just said. Thank you for spending your precious lunch hour with us. This is going to be a 75-minute session, which promises to be informative, engaging, and fun. And I hope you stay with us for the entire session. So leaders today have a choice between leaving a legacy that tackles climate crisis as well as the unprecedented levels of inequality or one that risks ecological and societal damage. So how can leaders today pave the way for the next generation's success? The grand challenges such as global warming, rising inequality, and poverty not only put pressure on governments and international organizations but also on businesses to contribute to a sustainable future. So ladies and gentlemen, what is responsible leadership? Why is it important to us in today's society? And why do young people increasingly feel that their future is under threat? And what are the businesses, business and policy innovations that can help to address these challenges? And how can private sector leaders rethink their business models to help with these problems? We'll hopefully come to some solutions during today's session. Again, she's repeating herself, what she has just said. Okay, without further ado, I'm going to now introduce our first two speakers. And they are Mr. Harry Montmignols and Adriana de Parma, and they'll be coming on stage to give you a global situation space presentation. And they'll be guiding you through graphs and data to show you what is actually happening in terms of inequality issues, in terms of climate change issues. Introducing, first of all, Harry. Harry started a company called Education in 2015, which is the largest youth tech platforms in the Philippines, empowering 10 million students in a year to make better decisions for their education as well as Korea. And introducing Adriana. Adriana is a co-investigator and biodiversity researcher at the Natural History Museum of the UK. And just to note, when they will be showing you the videos, you can pay attention to what appears on the bottom left screen. I think it's bottom left. There will be captions to show you the time at which the graphs and the data were collected. That gives you an idea of the timeline. So let's give a big round of applause to Henry and Adriana. The stage is yours. Thank you. Thank you. The world has never been richer. As you can see on these graphs, incomes have been rising across the world. And the proportion of those living under $1.90 a day has been going down by hundreds of millions over the last few decades. If you zoom into Asia, you will see that actually China was a leading cause of such a positive development, responsible for 70% of poverty reduction in the last few decades. With great strides also done in India and in ASEAN. Sharing more good news, incomes globally have been increasing. And this has led to reduced inequality between countries. And a situation whereby next year, half of the world's middle class were residing in Asia. But behind such positive headlines, the data tells us another story. And that is a negative one, which is that unfortunately income inequality within countries has actually been increasing. As you look at the dots form, you will see that economic growth has been unequal across countries. As market forces have been embraced, a cohesive economic national policy has tended to be left on the side. And as a result, some regions, some cities, or even certain socioeconomic segments within cities have been racing ahead of others. Zooming into Asia, which has obviously been a center of economic growth for the world, it's unfortunately the same story. It is not all parts of India or China or ASEAN that are doing just as well as each other. And what we also have to remember is that economic inequality is not just bad in itself. It can actually often cause social unrest, which could potentially undo decades of economic progress. If we believe that we can stay with a business as usual mentality, income inequality will rise in Asia and in other parts of the world. And this can lead to about, I think by 2050, 1% of the world's population controlling 20% of the wealth. So let's dive into the causes of such economic inequality. If you look at literacy rates globally, and literacy matters, it's a good proxy for education, it's a good proxy for participation in the knowledge economy. These have actually been improving across the world, across different continents. The good news is a lot of the hard work has been done. The bad news is, for those that are still left behind, the price of being illiterate just goes up as the average literacy rate increases globally. And what is true globally is true within countries as well. If you move on to then looking at electricity coverage, another great factor in people's ability to participate in the modern economy, whether it's for access to education, access to healthcare, access to job opportunities, electricity coverage has been increasing over time. Unfortunately, there are some areas that are quite literally left in the dark. And again, the price to pay for those that are left behind just increases as the rest of the world powers on. But broadly speaking, literacy rates, electricity coverage have actually been doing quite well. And so as a result, new divides are emerging, the internet being a very pointed one. Looking at the map, you can actually see where devices are connecting all over the world. In a way, the internet is absolutely transformative. It allows individuals to gain access to information, to innovation, to improve their productivity. It helps economies leap frog. But unfortunately, the internet tends to follow economic development. And so as a result, it will tend to reinforce existing inequalities, creating a class of have and have nots. If you zoom into Asia, where the internet has been probably one of the most transformative elements in the last decade or two, there's actually different elements at play as well. As young people, or actually the general population in countries like Thailand or the Philippines spend close to 10 hours a day online, they are not just aware of income inequality between their country and more developed ones. They're becoming much more aware of income inequality within their own country. And this is the fact that all stakeholders in society will have to deal with. Now, all of these access issues can feed into youth unemployment. Youth unemployment is a very dangerous development. If we believe that youth are our future, if we believe that they are the bedrock of a fair and cohesive society, then we need to make sure that we're building economies and societies that are creating equal opportunities for all. Unfortunately, the data tells us that we're not doing this right now. If you take a look at Europe in 2008, during the financial crisis, the data will show you that youth unemployment rose quite fast. And the reason is very simple. During economic recessions, the youth unemployment rose to the last to be hired and the first to be fired. This can feed into further income inequalities. And the problem with income inequality and what the youth are facing today is that they feel they say that they have it worse off than any other generation. But that is not a feeling, that is a fact rooted in data. And if we do not address this issue, we will be facing a world of rising inequality and increasing social unrest. Now, all these inequalities can feed into stifling growth, can lead into falling back economically. But the youth are not just worried about their economic future. The planet we inhabit is on the brink of ecological collapse. And so what is at stake is not just the global economy, but the very survival of humanity. So on that note, let's take a look at some of the impacts that we've had on the natural world so far. The global population has more than doubled since 1970. This of course means we need more space to live. So here you can see how urban areas have expanded in recent years. It's doubled since 1992 and now 60% of people live in cities. With this has come the expansion of road networks. Here you can see existing roads showing up in purple. And as expansive as these networks appear now, they're continuing to grow. 25 million kilometers of new paved roads are expected to be built by 2050. Now, of course, this can be incredibly important for linking communities and services, but they can also fragment our natural landscapes. But it's not just that the human population has increased. On average now, each person uses twice as much natural resource as a person consumed in 1970. But of course that global average masks huge inequalities with 11% of the world's people undernourished. So with this rise in human population and increase in consumption of resources, the demand for agricultural products has also increased. Now, although agricultural land has expanded only slowly in recent decades, by about 3% between 1992 and 2015, about half of the expansion of agricultural land has come at the expense of tropical forests. Between 2010 and 2015, 32 million hectares of primary and secondary tropical forest were lost. These maps show how forests are being lost through time. And you can see the losses in red and the gains in blue. And if we zoom in on to the Amazon, you can see how significant these losses are. And they're happening in just the space of 17 years on these maps. Now, as well as agriculture expanding, it's also become much more intensive in terms of the way that it's managed. So here you can see soybean exports from Brazil. Management has become more intensive and we've had huge shifts in production towards cash crops, often in response to demand from overseas. Without global level cooperation to protect our natural world, we risk countries essentially exporting their biodiversity damage by importing products that might not be so environmentally sustainable. Now, all of these land use changes can have significant impacts on biodiversity, the diversity of life on Earth. This map shows how vertebrate populations have changed over time. The larger the dot, the greater the change. And you can see both losses in red and gains in green. And there's been huge variation in how species have changed over time, with some having positive responses and some negative. But on average, the picture is actually very bleak, with average abundance of vertebrates declining by 60% since 1970. Now, this is just one measure of biodiversity looking at a particular group of species, but there are a number of other metrics showing declines in biodiversity through time. And land use change isn't the only pressure affecting biodiversity, although habitat loss and degradation is one of the key pressures facing today. Pollution, exploitation and invasive species are all threats, as well as, of course, climate change. Now, just one aspect of the climate crisis is the increase in the intensity and frequency of extreme weather events. So here you can see how temperature anomalies are becoming more frequent through time, with blue and red indicating areas where you've got spikes in cold and hot temperatures, respectively. Now, changes in the climate like this don't just affect biodiversity, they have significant consequences for human health. India's most intense and longest heat wave in decades has already claimed at least 36 lives, with temperatures reaching 50 degrees Celsius since it began in May. Our marine ecosystems are also particularly vulnerable to climate change. Here you can see how the likelihood of coral bleaching varies through space and time, with the very far end of the spectrum, the very darkest red, showing areas where not just coral bleaching is likely, but coral mortality. Now, a 1.5 degree Celsius average warming in global temperatures could reduce corals by about 80%, but a 2 degree rise in average global temperatures could reduce them by 99% of their cover. Now, this clearly could have huge consequences for our marine ecosystems, but ultimately for our own food security as well. The climate crisis also has the potential to dramatically change our landscapes. Here you can see the projected sea level rises as a result of increases in the average global temperature of between zero and four degrees Celsius. If we look to Tanjinn, home to about 11 million people, you can see vast swathes of the nearby coastline being submerged if we don't take drastic action to reduce our emissions. Now, we've clearly left our marks on the planet. We need now to undo some of the damage that we've done and find sustainable ways forward. We have to balance a number of goals, including climate change mitigation, biodiversity protection, and ensuring global food security. It's our responsibility to improve the way that we treat our planet, not just for the good of all the creatures we share it with, but also for our own good and for the good of those who come after us. Thank you. Adults keep saying that we owe it to the young people to give them hope. But I don't want your hope. I don't want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I wanted to act. I wanted to act as if you would in a crisis. I wanted to act as if the house was on fire, because it is. That's a strong message. I want you to act as you would in a crisis. I want you to act as if our house is on fire, because it is. For those of you that don't know, this was a video call for action by this girl called Greta Thunberg at the Winter Davos of 2019. And I wanted to give another quote from her video, which is actually longer. She said that places like Davos, people like to tell success stories. But sometimes their financial success have come with unthinkable price tag. On climate change, we have to acknowledge that we have failed. All political movements in their present have done so. And the media have failed to gather broad public awareness. So to what degree is that statement true? I'm now going to invite our three panellists to come on stage for a solution-oriented discussion on responsible leadership. Introducing our first panellist, Mr. Fleming, Bayes and Barker, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Carlsberg Group. Fleming is the Chairman of the Supervisory Board since 2012. And he has extensive experience of managing large knowledge-based organizations. He has strong competences relating to innovation, research and corporate social responsibility. Welcome. Our next panellist is the youngest participant of this year's annual meeting of the new champions 2019. Anyone has a guess how old she is? She is the youngest participant of this year's meeting. Right. Okay. Well, did I already say that in the introduction? Okay. All right. I thought I gave that away. Let's welcome Isabel Weissam, our youngest participant. Isabel started buy-buy plastic bags at the age of 10. She was inspired by a lesson at school. You can tell that story a bit later on. We want to hear why you started buy-buy plastic bags when you were 10. And it's a company that you and your sister, well, not a company, an NGO, you and your sister founded. So we are very happy to have Isabel with us today. Our final panellist, Ms. Hao Jingfeng, who is a Chinese science fiction writer. She won the Hugo Award for the best novel for folding Beijing at the 2016 Hugo Awards. Welcome, Ms. Hao. So on the forum agenda today, we're going to talk about promoting environmental justice. We're going to talk about bridging social and economic progress, as well as creating an innovation ecosystem. I want to quote again from Greta.  And many young people now feel they're worse off than the earlier generations. How do you feel about that, Isabel? I think I can speak on that a little bit as the voice of youth on the panel today. And I think that's simply because more and more deadlines are coming out, governments are releasing these dates, studies are showing more and more how, you know, climate change is affecting our world, but not only that, we are seeing more and more in today's societal climate as well, inequalities in humanitarian issues, animal rights, you know, animals are going extinct every day, and we are losing so much that this world has to offer. And so I think all of us grew up with this sense of urgency, the fact that we don't have the luxury of time anymore, right? We can't wait until we're older to make that difference.  I'll share with you some figures. We're experiencing incredibly conscious, ethics conscious generation that millennials regard ethics and values higher than a general salary, which is very interesting. According to research carried out by global tolerance, 62% of millennials want to work for an organization which makes a positive impact. And 53 actually said they would work harder if they knew the company is making a difference to others. Isabel, tell us a little bit more.  So six years ago in 2013, both my sister Malati, who couldn't be here today, and I started Bye Bye Plastic Bags, which, as she mentioned before, is a social initiative working on my home island, Bali, to get the people to say no to single use plastic bags. And so the way that we do this is we do a lot of different forms of campaigning, whether that's through educational programs with schools or working in lobbying with the government, socialization programs, awareness, just lots of different approaches to getting our voices heard very much in the local community, because in the end it is their island. And you know, after six years of hard working, campaigning, working with lots of different people on the island of Bali, it actually resulted in, I believe, 10 days ago in a ban of plastic bags, straws and styrofoam on Bali. Oh wow, what happens if you do use plastic bags or other utensils, or you just don't have supplies anymore? I'm not completely sure what the fine is. I'd have to look into that, but it's definitely being more and more enforced throughout the island. We're definitely seeing results. Yeah, Fleming and Tim van, what do you have to say about that? Do you think youth now are facing a future which is quite different to, say, 20, 30 years ago? In China, 20 or 30 years ago, there is the face of fast developing and everybody knows it. Although people sense a lot of problems, social problems, economic problems, people always think, oh, we are in a fast developing age, we are getting better and better, there's hopes in the future. So it seems that all problems are tolerable, because on a whole we are getting in a fast developing stage. But nowadays, perhaps, the priority at the time was different. Yeah, nowadays a lot of young people and even teenagers, they feel that the pace is getting slower and there are fewer and fewer chances these days to be successful. So they are these kinds of stress on the shoulder of the youth. And also nowadays, as suggested, because of the age of internet, a lot of people are aware of those global issues and national issues, they are more open hearted than their previous adults. So nowadays, I think young people, they care really more of the whole society issues. Yeah, and I think you definitely raised an important point. I think the flow of information these days with the internet, with social media, is definitely facilitating information exchange across different countries and continents. Fleming, what's your view? What do you think the next generation is facing? Well, I think first of all, there's an ethical issue here, and I think every generation has the responsibility to give the globe back, at least in the same state as we've received from our parents. And I must admit I'm really fearing that my generation may be the first generation where this could not happen. So we have a moral responsibility for the globe. And I think it's great that the use is speaking up and expressing their voice. On the other hand, I'm a scientist, I'm a big optimist. And if I look at the world, as also Henry explained it today, I think the engineers and the natural sciences and so forth have created a better world today. We've seen the first, the second, the third and the fourth industrial revolution. And we are having a better world today. The GDP has been increasing. We have the fewest number of people living below $2 a day. It's still too many who are living below that. But I mean, we are in a better state today. And I actually still believe that we still have time to act. It's time to act now, but we still have time to act. And what do I mean with that? Well, I mean, if I look at the science... How, to what degree do you agree with that video, Greta's message? Well, I think the most important to me is time to act. What I do not like, I must admit, is her fear. Because I think it's very, very dangerous to express too much fear to young people here. Because that, I mean, you know, if I become fearful and do not use my brain any longer, then I cannot make the right decision. And I think if I read the latest report from the scientists from the UN panel reports, right, it is time to act right. I mean, if we should keep the global temperature below 1.5 degree, and I think we showed elegantly here this morning that the consequence for not doing that is dramatic. We still have time here. I mean, it just means that, well, just, it means that within, I think, before 2035, we have to bring our next CO2 emission to zero. And even we have to sort of capture CO2 from the atmosphere. Can we do this? Well, I mean, I still think that technology will help us solving some of this issue here. If you look at some of the other issues here, water scarcity, converting into more sustainable energy production and so forth here, I still believe that investing in education, research, development, we will find ways to do it this year. There will be paradigm shift. I have been advocating strongly for turning from a linear economy into a circular economy. In the linear economy, you are taking resources, you are produced, you are consumed and create a lot of waste. And this cannot continue on because if all people on the global living as we are doing in Denmark, that requires four global resources and which is obviously not sustainable. The overshoot day, meaning the day where we, 7 billion people on the globe, is using more resources than the world can regenerate is happening earlier and earlier. Last year it was first of August. So it is time for act. And in the circular economy, you have to keep resources in a closed cycle for longer. And I was drafting a report to the Danish government on circular economy where there are four hours which is very important. And that is reduce, reuse, recycle and rethink.  And I think what you're doing greatly admire you and congratulate you for what you're doing. Because I mean, plastic is one issue here. We should be much better in recycling and reusing plastic, but we should also be rethinking new ways of actually turning waste into a new resource. So I'm an optimist and I believe that we've been able to do it. But it will require leadership. It will require responsive leadership. And you cannot run a business today without also having sustainability in spreading your business. Great. Thank you. Reuse, recycle and rethinking. Using technology and think about the ways that we can make, we can solve the problems, right, be optimistic. OK, well, on that note about responsible leadership, I'd like to move on to the second question. So responsible leadership is about making sustainable business decisions which take into account of interests of all shareholders. And that would include shareholders, employees, clients, suppliers, community, the environment and future generations. Unfortunately, some say our businesses and political leaders have been slow to recognize the need for change. And we see the frequent buzzwords such as corporate social responsibility. We see sustainability. But still, we're not seeing enough change and people are not happy about the current situation. So what are the business and policy innovations that can actually help to address the challenges? Actually, I think yesterday we discussed that problem on the YGL meeting as well. The difficulty is how to measure the social responsibility achievement. We discussed how to build a society in which we just... The success does not only mean the profit to shareholders but also means the social responsibility you've paid to the whole society. But the difficulty is how to measure the second part. So now, although a lot of intellectuals, a lot of thinkers, a lot of even politicians recognize that how to make business more responsible to the whole world is an important issue. It's not that easy to implement any policies or just build any measurable system onto it. But I think that problem is very, very important in the future because all the technologies has to be implemented by some companies, groups, or governments, or has to be implemented in now the economic system. So sometimes it is nowadays economic system and the mechanism that prevents these advanced technology, these optimistic technology to be implemented in all countries, in all part of the world. Sometimes the price is too high and no subsidies. Sometimes it's not profitable to do this. Sometimes they are just the free risers problems. We always discuss that in the economic issue. So without proper policy schemes, these technologies are not very easy to implement. And also there are those debates between different countries whose responsibility is. So I think that there should be more subtle measurement of the social responsibility issue on the national level as well as the global level. Great. Thank you, Jinfeng. Isabel, do you have anything to add to that? Yeah, a process. You started the company how many years ago? Six years ago? Six years ago. Have you been working with businesses and organizations to stop them from using plastic bags? How did you campaign? Yeah, so actually something that we launched I think late last year was their program called Commitment where we worked I think with 400 Bali-based businesses where we gave them a sort of contract to sign where they could take off the different single-use plastic items and by what date they were going to rule them out of their business. And so I think we've worked a lot with the tourism industry as well because Bali is quite the touristic holiday destination and so we've worked with them. But what I see and what I wanna sort of say is that I believe the responsibility to sort of be the agent for change in a sense which, wait, let me think about this how I'm gonna say this correctly. I think that change starts in the classroom, right? Before you have your first job you go to school and you learn about things and I think change starts within the classroom. If you know from a younger age, this is how we have to look at a system we can no longer have a linear business plan but more of a circular economy then that's what you're gonna go out there in the world and implement. That's what you're gonna go out and do. And I think if you look at the education system it hasn't changed for a very long time but if you look at the world in the past 50 years alone or in the past 10 years it's rapidly changing. And so I think there's definitely a bridge there that needs to be made and definitely a shift in mindset in the education system. I think that's great. So change starts from the young children, start from the classroom, start from the education. So when the kids grow up they will be making better policy and business decisions. Yeah, what about the grown-ups? I fully agree that change start in the classroom but it also starts from the top and it starts for the business leaders because the tone from the top in a company is incredibly important. And again I'm an optimist if I look at the world today and I talk to many German CEOs and so forth I really see many companies today exactly adopting responsible and responsive leadership. And if I should speak on behalf of Karlsberg, the German here, I'm normally saying there's four P's which are important for Karlsberg. There's one P for profit. I mean you cannot run a business today if you do not earn money otherwise you may be out of business very soon. But there's three other P's which are equally important. And one of them is purpose. I mean you said before that young people like would today like to work in a company with a greater purpose. We as a company have started back in 1847. Very long history here, tits. And our purpose is brewing for a better world today and tomorrow. That has been very important to inspire many people inside the company but I call to see that engaged with many of our consumers. So a purpose-driven company is very, very important. And I see more and more companies around the world is becoming purpose-driven. Why do we exist? Why are we here? Why would we like to create a better world? The next P is P for the planet. I mean you can simply not run a business today without having sustainability deeply integrated in your roots. Business have to take responsibility for these climate issues we're seeing here today. And again I'm pretty sure that if we ever is going to solve some of the UN 17 Sustainable Development Goals, it helps tremendously when you see these 17 Sustainable Development Goals being embedded in the strategy process of the company. And I've seen that more and more. And the final P is P for people. I mean we have been living in a century where maybe capital was a limiting factor. And now we're moving in the century where talent will be the limiting factor. Those organizations who have the right people with the right mindset, with the right entrepreneurial mindset being at the island and so forth, say they will be the leaders. And that also means that actually you have to actually engage with the user. And I think one very interesting aspect of this meeting here is again acting, having the young people starting their own companies, the entrepreneurs, because that's very much needed going forward here. We have great technology which may help us solving some of the issues which should be scaled up, but we also very much needing new innovative technology to help solving some of our issues in our society. And again here the use is actually those where we should actually put more effort into. And I must admit again, I'm admiring China here for all their great effort in innovation and entrepreneurship. And I would hope this would help many other places around the world. Great, thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Isabel, and thank you, Junfeng. So we have, you know, we got to start the chain from getting up, from education, from the classrooms, embedding the good values and ethics into your business from inside out. Have a good purpose and recruit the right people. Again, that goes back to the classroom and education. So companies do need to boost and promote their ethics and values now more than ever. And this can't be achieved without responsible leadership. The best businesses are forceful good and they will make a positive impact on our society. So how are private sector leaders now rethinking their business models? I think that goes back to what you were saying early on, but do you think that the businesses are doing enough to actually altering their business models, not just, you know, from the top and thinking about your purpose and your grand goal, but actually doing something that makes concrete changes to your business model? Is that happening? Is that happening enough? I can follow. Okay, I introduced a little bit of my experience and some conclusion. I'm doing some experimental in my own startup because we are trying to figure out a long run model for doing these social responsible things. We do the profitable educational programs and sell out to the big city families. And we make the profit and we give the free educational programs to the kids in the mountain areas. We conduct that process in Sichuan, Guizhou, Gansu, Shanxi and Fujian provinces. So in the future, I try to experiment more on this model to try to sell our products to the families who can afford it and use that profit to support our programs in the poor provinces for the young kids. And in order to do this, I think that in the future, more and more entrepreneurs who has the heart of responsibility to the society can try different kinds of social enterprise models. And if it works, then this enterprise can run as a dam of the society to let the water from here to get the water to flow to the other direction. And using that model, perhaps we can make the society a little bit better. So I think it should be creativity, innovation in every part of the society, not only technology, but also the business models, the new type of enterprises and the new type of business networks and all in every part of the society, there should be creativity and innovation. Only by innovation can responsible people really solve the problems in society. Great, thank you, Jingfang. So using your profitable part of your business to support the social responsibility side of your work, that's great. Anything to add, Fleming and Isabel? I wanna say something just a little bit. I think slowly, surely we are seeing businesses and corporations really take responsibility and making those small changes because they are seeing that being green and being sustainable can also be profitable. But having said that, I think because these often large industries, they have the capital backing behind them and they already have a huge platform, they can always do more. So that's yeah, just a little thought because yeah, they can always do more. Yeah, they can always do more. Well, I can only echo that everyone can always do more. But I must admit again, if I travel around the world, travel to Davos, travel to UN General Assembly and so forth, I've seen more and more companies stepping up and doing it, not only because doing good, but actually because it's actually doing great business. And actually, I think also we are moving from an area where we're only focused on short-term profit optimization to actually more long-term thinking and doing this here because it's actually a very good business. And again, I mean, you can simply not run a business today if you're not looking into the world and taking responsibility for the world because some of these issues here are common issues here. And I see more and more business leaders actually doing it. But again, I must say that I'm actually very much optimistic in the way that I see more and more young people starting up being entrepreneurs. And of course, the big issue with starting a company is of course, scale. I mean, you see many people starting a company and they are running it. But then, you know, when they then have to scale up, having the one first thousand employees, you know, I mean, that's always very difficult. And we should have more and more people doing this. Actually helping, getting help, both capital but also human resources to scale up these companies and scaling that up to the rest of the world here. I see a lot of great ideas starting up companies, solving some of the issues within the energy, within the environment, within the water and so forth here. But we should just help them to scale up and bring that technology out to the rest of the world. But in that respect, I'm actually still very, very much optimistic we'll do it. It may also need some regulation, right? I think that in U.S. and in China, there are other resources to scaling up. I think in Europe, we are still lacking behind in sort of helping some of these startup companies raising the capital, helping them scaling up. But maybe the new EU commission will help with doing that. Would any one of you name one or two very good business innovation or business models that you think actually helps to address any of the challenges? Fleming, have you seen any good ones? Well, I mean, I'm normally saying there's a triangle which actually is very, very important. That is that you have to have bright people with bright ideas which may come out of your university filer patent. Then you have to have people who help formulating that into a business plan. And then you have investors helping them scaling that up. And I see that more and more places around the world. I think the California area and the Boston area has been very good in doing that. I was recently in Singapore, again, they're very good in doing that. I think in China, actually, they are becoming better and better at doing it. And of course, also Israel here. So this having bright people, people who can help them because it's not always the university professors is very good at driving a business here. But they maybe have an idea. We have to have business people bringing that from science into an idea and then from idea into a business here. I'm seeing it more and more, but it requires also from governments, long-term investment in education, in innovation and entrepreneurship. How easy is it to scale up? Or how difficult is it to scale up? Well, some are very successful in doing it and others are less successful. And I think that if you have the people with the bright minds, with the business people, with the business background, and then the people with the capital around, I mean, that certainly helps. And when I see startup companies failing in doing that, that's typically because they do not hire in people, people, people, hiring people with the right competencies, helping them scaling it up. And then of course, I mean, some are very good at growing organically. Other may need for the first many years to burn capital in order to scaling up. And that means also to have a long-term investor who trusts in this idea helps out tremendously. Okay, so talent, we need a good business organization, a structure to help scale up. We need investment into the right areas. Anything to add, Jingfeng and Isabel? I think that it's always quite easy to just change in one company or in the environment of the private sector business however, sometimes when you come across the issue to changing the policy side or just to have dialogues between different countries, then that might make something really difficult. For example, just like the environmental issue, if one company would like to do greener, it's own decision, that's easy. But sometimes if you would like the whole business environment to admit that this is an important issue that all communities should do together or you think that our country should do the effort but other countries should do the same. Then it might be very difficult. So some rational companies might be the free rider in this problem. Then it requires a collective effort on those issues. So sometimes we need to have the really deep communication mechanisms that can strengthen the trust that everybody does the same. Then it can make those innovators really worth of it. Yeah, so I think that communication is very important. Otherwise we are in the prisoner's dilemma that everybody knows if we cooperate together we make the best results. But everybody thinks, oh, if I do the good person but the others not, then I will get the worst result. Then on that situation nobody will do the good. So we need to really strengthen the trust that everybody has the consensus to move forward. And all countries, the developing countries are moving forward to make a better planet altogether. Great, that's a great answer. I kind of just wanted to echo off of what she said which was I think the key to scaling up is collaboration and partnerships. And I think the youth can play a really important role in that because we're hungry for knowledge. We want to learn everything we can and so we can really be the bridge between the professors, the scientists, the government people and really bring everyone together to work together in order to get those cool ideas but also get the capital, the funding, get those people, the manpower to actually do it all in the same place so that we can really scale up and create that 100% change. But on another note, I think coming my background from NGOs and organizations I think a huge tool for scaling up and sort of going global, we've noticed is social media, especially with the younger generation. Everybody has a phone, everybody is usually connected to the internet and so you can literally share your message or what you want to do with one click of the button. Everything for our generation is at the tips of our fingers, right? And so I think social media is definitely a tool to use if you want to scale up when you're an organization or NGO to link up with others out there, like-minded people doing the same as you, yeah. Great, well we talk about policy, we talk about policy decisions, we talk about within a company you need to have the right innovators, we need to have the right business leaders at the top who give them the support to support the innovations that they're going to bring out. We talk about collaboration between the different parties within your own country and also globally then Isabel just mentioned social media is a great tool to spread the message worldwide. What is the next step plan for your buy-buy plastic bags? Are you moving on to buy-buy something else? Not yet, but actually buy-buy plastic bags has grown from being small NGO on Bali to I think today having over 40 locations globally, all led by young people, all working to get either their cities, countries or towns plastic bag free as well, which is really inspiring for us to see that it's grown into this movement not only to say no to plastic bags but also a message of youth empowerment, right? We're the living example that kids can do things. Kids can do things. How do the people in Bali, how do the tourists, how do they feel about the no plastic bags? Are they generally okay with that, they're living up? Yeah, I think it's just a matter of changing the norms, creating the new norm to bring an alternative bag or a lot of shops in Bali, boutiques and retail spaces have made that investment to provide alternatives to their customers and so they will have reusable bags that you can use at their store once you make a purchase. And so I think a lot of the tourists, they're pretty okay when they see oh no plastic bags, a lot of them are very happy as well as the local people. As soon as you educate the person on the problem, which you know in Indonesia people often say, oh the Indonesians, the locals, they don't care. They're just throwing plastic left and right but after having many conversations with them we realized they just didn't know that there was an issue, right? They thought, oh the plastic looked ugly in the environment, that's it. But once you told them, okay, these are the negative effects it was having, they were like, oh okay, how can I become a part of the solution? What can I do in my daily life to change? And so everybody was pretty open to the change in law and regulation and so everybody, we've had pretty positive results I think so far. That's great. Something to add? Yeah, I'm quite impressed by her expression that kids can really do things. Actually we used to live in a world that is too slowly developed. So every generation used to follow the direction of the last generation and follow to a ladder maybe in his 40s or 50s and do some innovative things and try to make changes from the top. So then you have to just climb up the social ladder to the top and then make some changes. But I think that for the next one or two generations the world is changing so fast that every three years, five years, there's another world and adults, the old people just left, they're just out of date. So sometimes I think that the young generation, the new kids, they can change their world, they can create their world. They do not need to follow the path all through their life for 40 or 50 years. They can make a better world for themselves. So I do have hope in the next generation, the young people, and I do hope that they can think big. They can just think of those big questions and then they can think of those new solutions to the world's problem. Yeah, and now I do the educational programs to young kids. So I encourage the kids to think big questions, to think big, think deep, and from the beginning they can think that they can make a change. And I think that makes the new world. And if I could just add one more thing to the what's next. I forgot to mention this, you've been keeping it under wraps for a couple of years but it's been in the developmental process and naturally through biopacic bags as I said we've really embodied the message of youth empowerment. And so naturally our next project for which we're hoping to launch in the next two months is called Youth Topia where we aim to create spaces and platforms and a sort of headquarter for young people to come together because through our campaigning we've had so many reach outs from young people saying, hey, you know, I'm really passionate about this but I don't know what to do. I don't know how to make a difference. I don't know how to become a change maker. And so hopefully Youth Topia can be that one stop destination or one stop for young people to go when they want to create a change in their lives and in their communities. And so it's really inspired with sort of peer to peer learning where we connect those people who want to be activists and change makers with those already on the front lines of change to mentor each other in a sort of process of really connecting and becoming together and we really want to create a physical space because as we've noticed today at this meeting and at these forums is that creating those networking and those connections between people is so important. And so hopefully with Youth Topia that's what we can achieve. Fantastic, Youth Topia, well collaboration. I think we should clap at that. Thank you. I'm very impressed by what BiBi plastic bags and what Isabelle and your sister have achieved and now your new platform giving young people the opportunity and giving them the platform to come together and drive for change. I love the energy in you, fantastic. Okay, well, could we save that to the concluding remarks because we need to now move on to Q and A. I'm sorry for letting me. Okay, so now we come to our Q and A session Right, we're going to keep this very dynamic so we're gonna have Jesse over there with a comedian, very well-known internet personality and comedian who is going to be helping out with the questions in the audience. And can I just say one person, one question at a time and please keep your question short and concise. Also, we have something of a challenge for the panelists. So for each question, we will have these parameters that our panelists have to, when you answer the question, you have to answer within. For example, we will have, you know, answer the question in less than 10 words so that would be a challenge. And when you ask the question, Jesse will have a bowl and there will be strips of paper in there so pick one and have your question and then they will answer the question with that challenge which is in the bowl. Is that clear? Okay, great. All right. So we have question number one. Any questions? Who's got the first question for us? Oh, come on. Hopefully somebody we have over here. First question, please. What's your question? My question is to all of you but probably mainly to Isabel. Are you kind of sad that so much responsibility is placed on the youth to force change in the world? Would you rather the governments just take decisions that might be politically, you know, not so popular? Or do you think actually changing social norms and pressures is the way forward and the only way to change the world in the long term even if it takes a little bit longer to do? Very good. And then what is the challenge for the answer? The challenge is? Answer the question in less than 10 words. Wow. So who's responsible? The youth or the grownups? Are we out of date? Right, that's sort of the question, right? In 10 words. Okay, it's, I think it's a bit of a balance, right? It's working from the top down and the bottom up. That's more than 10 words. Sorry. Please go ahead Isabel. Yeah, no, that's sort of what I wanted to say is it definitely has to be a combination of working together. Yeah. Anything to add? It's either off, we're all responsible. To me, changes should be made from now. Otherwise, we don't have time. Okay. Yeah, there we go, good job. Very good. Awesome. Where is our next question coming from? I can run around the room. Lady of night. Over here, yep, in the back, I got you right here. Whoop, we're losing a strip. We lost it for good. There we go. Over here, what's the question first? So the question is, one thing that's very impressive about this panel is how diverse it is and how inclusive it is. Different ages, different backgrounds from different parts of the world. So firstly, I really commend you all on that. But how tightly aligned are these issues? Having diversity in our boardrooms and throughout our companies and throughout those decision-making points in society and inclusivity as well. And how do we solve these issues together? All right, questions about diversity and the challenge is? No glasses. No glasses. Answer the question in a way that a five-year-old could understand it. Diversity is very much embedded into my heart and of course gender diversity is one aspect of this year. And gender diversity is as big problems as many other things. And again, tone from the top is incredibly important here. Diversity in the boardroom, diversity in the management team and also among the young people here. That's very, very important to me. Incredible importance. We all equal. Great. Since I have a five-year-old daughter, so I'll try to answer this question just like I talked to my daughter. Fantastic, please. So there are diversities just as there are different kids in the class. So you have boys, girls, you have classmates of all the characters. So if everybody only asks for things for himself or herself, then there will be argues and conflicts every day between the kids. So you have to think and talk to each other and think that as a class, what should you do?  So can you talk to each other and share your opinions? Can you exchange your things and do things one by one by turns? So as you are a class and a whole, you should have a sense of the whole. And then all the diversities can be solved since you are a class together. I think that's a really good answer. I mean, you can all come down to a classroom, right? Great, thank you, Tsing-Fong, for that. Over here, got another question up in the front. Thank you. My question is with regards to having diversity and inclusivity in the boardroom, we just, we have a very diverse panel in terms of age and we just heard Greta Thunberg as well. So what are your views on that? Because in order to sort of promote responsible leadership and have the right kind of engagement from all the stakeholders, do you think that companies and organizations are ready to have that kind of diversity in the boardroom? All right, so the question is boardroom diversity and the challenge is work together amongst the three of you to come to a consensus on the answer. So let's see if you agree. Fleming, can I ask you, how many, how diverse is your board? Very diverse, so tone from the top is again incredibly important. When I became chairman, there was only men in the boardroom and then I set a quota on 40% of the board members should come from the underrepresented gender and that's still females in Carlsberg and now we are 30% and there's fantastic female board members out there. So as long as the chairman says that we have to have a more diverse board, go out and find them and they are there, tone from the top is just important and we can do it. That's just on the side. So, consensus, these of us have a lot of experience with, or do you deal with the diversity? Well, I kind of want to ask a question out to the audience right now. Who in this room is under the age of 20? No one, me, me. And so I definitely am very honored that the World Economic Forum reached out to me and allowed me to be a part of this but I think a huge part of diversity is giving a seat at the table to everyone's voices. And I particularly am an advocate for youth voices because often in meetings where decisions are being made about our future, we are not included and it's not only on those important days that we need to be there but the entire process as well. We need to be a part of regulation making always sort of, as you said, like all the stakeholders have to be considered. Whether it doesn't matter what background you are, what age, what race, gender, everyone, it's everyone's world so everybody should, you know, have an equal right to be a part of it, I think. That's a great answer, anything to add? I may add here that I'm actually also chairman of an organization called Unleash and Unleash brings every year together 1,000 talents aged 20 to 30 years old, trying to come up with solutions for the 17 Sustainable Development Goals. Gender diversity 50-50, male, female, 228 different countries involved here solving some of the issues within food, health, energy, education, ICT, urban sustainability. We would like to go to Shenzhen here and November this year here, trying to unleash the potential. As you're saying, we're trying to educate them to be the next leaders here, trying to be innovative here, come up with new solutions here. So it's incredibly important to engage with the youth here and if any, you would like to hear more about Unleash and Unleash.org and otherwise contact me. Thank you. I hope that answers your question, although it wasn't quite a collective answer. Whoops, different voices. Very good, do we have one more question? Any more questions from back here? Maybe we have one back here. I just wanted to know that your opinion on how we can incorporate this kind of teaching in the educational system and whether it's policy, whether it's tools or curriculum, starting at what age? Questions, how to incorporate into the educational system and the challenge is? How would your child or a parent answer this question? Okay, since perhaps I'm the only person that can answer to this challenge. As educational program, if my daughter, she will say that I am a grown-up already. Don't call me a baby. I'm already five years old. I can decide things for myself and I know a lot about the world. My daughter said that I like the knowledge. I like to know about the world. I would like to be, some of them, some of them. She had tens of dreams and changes every day. But I think she will answer to this question is that I'm curious of this world. I would like to know everything about this world and I am already old enough to know things about this world. And I like Earth. I like the universe. I like to go to the other planets in my life. So I think that kids then as an adult, I think that all the kids, they naturally have the sense of being a citizen on the Earth, on this planet. And she just doesn't have the boundary, the sense of the other country, the differences of me and other country's kids. And she just don't have the sense of conflicts of all those nations. So she naturally thinks that as a citizen on this planet, we should protect the Earth. I just hope that the sense of the kids can be a sense for adults as well, to take the planet as a whole, to just ignore the minor diversities among us and to see us as human, as homo sapiens on this planet. We are actually a whole. We have to have this sense of a planet to actually protect our planet. Thank you, Jingfeng Fleming. You have something to add? And again, I mean, the educational system has also changed rapidly because half of the people entering the education system today will get a job which does not exist yet. And therefore, besides having the literacy's ability to read and write and mathematics and coding a computer and so forth, other soft skills like ability to be creative, being ability to collaborate, being able to communicate and so forth are even more important today than ever. So actually, I also believe that actually universities are filled with bright people, but also very conservative people. So we should really also have to rethink how we are educating the next generation of people with more focus again on, in my opinion, creativity, innovation, entrepreneurship, ability to collaborate, partnerships and so forth. Isabel, do you think there is enough curricular in schools currently? Well, my mom's in the room, so I'm gonna try to answer this short and to the point as she would. But yes and no, I think you definitely start as young as possible. And I think change has to come from within the curriculum. I think we have to move away from this sort of idea that one size fits all with education because not every kid is the same. Not every kid is gonna learn the best the same way, right? And so I think that also includes standardized testing in a sense. I'm gonna start senior year and I've never sat in an exam because I go to a very different alternative school that focuses on project-based learning, which I think is the way to go because when you're out there in the world, right? It's called the Green School. It's an international school. It's very amazing. But the thing is when you're out there in the world, you're not gonna be handed a test, right? It may be like a metaphorical test, but that's also a project, right? And you're gonna have to learn how to create those problem, how to create those collaborations, how to do problem solving, how to have those skills to move forward that you would learn not from a textbook but from experience and from bringing those real-world situations and issues and problems into the classroom. And so I think that the curriculum has to change to make it very relevant to today's world. Actually, that's what we do in China. We bring those project-based learning into China. We give the children projects to do. And we also teach them history from the planet's view. We teach both the Western history and Chinese history and mingle them together, science and arts together and let the children to do projects related to everyday life. So we think that the reforms within the school system has to be changed, but sometimes we can make it faster. And that's actually why I talk about flexibility, a flexible education system. In Denmark, we have what it calls a very flexible labor market, but we should actually also have the new educational market and I fully echo what is being said here about sort of the project-based learning here. Great, project-based learning. We're seeing great results, Isabel. Have you always been so eloquent? No. No, I'm a little rusty. Bioplastic bags has helped you. I always like to think of bioplastic bags sort of as a life school, because I think I've learned many different skills that maybe a standard school wouldn't be able to teach public speaking. I remember six years ago when we started, I was shaking, I had my script written word for word on A4 paper and I even had crutches on stage. I don't know why. And I was freaking out, but I think through practice and experience, you get better at these sort of things. And yeah, I think bioplastic bags has definitely helped shape me into the person I am today. Great, well I think we are running out of time, so that'll be the end of our Q&A session. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to share with you some figures before we end today's session. According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, we're less than 12 years away from not being able to undo our mistakes. In that time, unprecedented changes in all aspects of society need to have taken place. Including a reduction by green gas emissions by at least 50%. So again, we come back to responsible leadership. Leaders today need to think about how to deal with challenges, the problem that we're facing now in order to pave a way for the success of the next generations. So ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to ask you for a concluding remark on today's session. Something that's tweetable, something that you can put on social media, say on Weibo or something else. Not too long. Commit the 4P in profit, people, planet and purpose in your business. Great, the 4Ps. Profit, purpose, planet and people. Two ladies. Us kids may only be 25% of the world's population, but we are 100% of the future. If developing countries and developed countries are only blamed other to be responsible to the planet, then the problem will never be solved. We will jump into the prisoner's dilemma. Everybody should think himself or herself as a human on this planet. We should have the sense of the whole to protect our planet. Great, thank you. So we think about diversity. We think about building purpose, building people into your business plan. We think about collaboration, not just within your own country, but also globally. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. I think that's a great session. Thank you, our panelists for sharing with us. And we also thank Henry and Adriana for your presentations and Jesse for helping out with the wonderful Q&A session. And thank you for being with us today.


Hello everyone, okay right now I'm gonna show you guys how to make your own logo using your own hand drawing So let's get started Let's proceed with the drawing.


Hey guys, Dylan Schumacher, Citadel Defense, and we're going to paint this plate carrier. This is also, I'm painting this at the same time I'm painting my backpack, so this is kind of an experiment to see how it turns out. I'm going to tape off the Velcro fields on the front and the back because I want to maintain those. I do have Velcro kind of up here on the side. I'm just going to paint that. We're just going to see how that goes. I don't anticipate needing a lot of Velcro on the sides anyway, the way I set up my plate carriers. So if it works out, cool, I'll still have Velcro. If not, whatever, I guess I'll lose my side Velcro, no big deal. So we're going to paint this. Again, the reason we paint things is because the black will actually stick out. Black sticks out at night, and black also sticks out in, you know, wooded environments and stuff like that.  And let me know if you can see them and then try it again with something in multi-cam or maybe more of a coyote brown or a wolf gray. Try something like that and see if it's easier to see them. You can experiment with this yourself and you'll be able to see that the black sticks out a lot better, sweet irony, than the wolf gray or the coyote brown or the multi-cam. And that has to do with the way your eye sees hues in color. So we're going to paint this plate carrier. This is one of my plate carriers that I bought a while ago and I bought it in black and so I want to fix that now so it can be more of a work carrier. So let's paint it and we'll see how it goes. Okay, so we're out here in the garage and we are going to try some rust-olium tan here for a base coat. So we'll see how that goes. Pan worked that great. So I just put some streaks in it. I wasn't getting enough color. The nylon really soaks up the color so I wasn't really able to get enough paint on the plate carrier with through the netting. So I just put some streaks on it. We'll let it dry. We'll see how it turns out. Okay, so this is how it turned out. Did not get the top Velcro completely covered there as you can see that. And they kind of got one spot and missed the rest. And I forgot to tape it before I started painting. So we'll see how that ends up holding up in the long run. And then I didn't paint that part so that obviously I can still Velcro and attach my loadout to. Any time I want to clip something in here and attach it, I wanted to leave that to make sure that's good. And then I left the back because I don't know, it seemed like a good idea and I might want to put stuff on it. But overall, this is how it turned out. I used about, I think, three total coats of tan and then just some streaking with the green to kind of try to break it up a little bit. So this has been my experiment. I think this one's been pretty successful. I also have a backpack coming. I'm curious to see how that ends up. But if you have a black plate carrier and you're thinking about painting it, you just need a couple cans of Rust-Oleum paint and you can end up trying to get something like this. It's always going to be a little bit experimentish, especially with nylon just because it absorbs so much paint and the color just doesn't take as well as when you're painting a gun. So feel free to live a little and be bold. It can't get worse. Look at it that way. You're only ever going to be able to help it. So hope that was helpful. Let me know if you try to paint your plate carrier. Would love to see the final pictures. Do brave deeds and endure.


Good day and welcome to our program. I am Davina Lee and today I'm joined in studio with Mrs. Matherin Immanuel. Mrs. Matherin Immanuel, she's one of St. Lucia's foremost filmmakers under her belt. She has four feature films. Today she's in studio with some of her cast and crew to discuss her latest film, Chante's World. Welcome Matherin. Thank you. Okay and also join you on set right now is Ms. Jane Flavius who is your assistant director slash actress slash what else? This is a director and actor. An actor, okay. Okay, so for people who don't know who Matherin Immanuel is, give us a brief. Who is Matherin Immanuel? Matherin Immanuel, St. Lucia's award-winning film producer, as you previously said. I'm a teacher by profession, taught for 32 long years and during, I think it was in 2005, I decided to use the audiovisual medium to reach out to young people and that's how Ribbons of Blue was born. After I had produced the first film, Tears in the Valley and St. Lucia got incensed about that production. I decided why not continue, I should continue producing films that would inspire our youth and also families and Ribbons of Blue was sent to the UK, I'm sorry, to New York where I received my first award. From Ribbons of Blue I decided to continue, so Trouble Waters came into play and then Nanna's Paradise and currently we are working on Shanti's World. So I have never stopped producing because this is what inspires me because of the messages and whatever. Okay, thank you. So Jane, was this film your first entry into the film world or have you been working with Matherin before? Yes, I worked with Matherin a long time when we were involving some stage production. We were working with a group called Vision of the La Vie and I also took part in Ribbons of Blue and Trouble Waters. I mean that's my first time acting as a director with her, but not my first time. Okay, so what was that experience like in a different role because first you were an actress and you've had that background in theatre, you said before previously. So now as an assistant director we were behind the scenes and having the headaches along with Matherin, what was that like? It was challenging but it was fun and I mean along the way I learned a lot. Okay. And it was just an exciting journey with her. Okay, we'll talk about the journey. So Matherin, tell me a little bit about this new project Shanti's World. Give us a little insight into the film without giving it away. In 2014 the AVFA Audiovisual Film Association facilitated a competition for professionals in the audiovisual platform on that platform and I decided to pitch and I won and that came about from inspiration which I received after travelling through the region. I received a grant from the European Union to take my films to four Caribbean islands of my choice and I selected St. Vincent Grenada, Dominica and Antigua. And whilst I travelled to those Caribbean islands I realised that we were lacking something significant within the region and that is our past, history. Whilst it is true that we have our senior citizens like people like my mother who is 94 who tells us the stories of the past and what it was like in the Caribbean during that period of time, that is during the 1940s and whatever. I decided that I would try to secure or preserve that culture that existed back then and use it as a tool for information, education, entertainment and inspiration within the region, not just in Lucia but embrace the whole Caribbean and produce a film that we would resonate with culture-wise. And that's how Shanti was born. The word Shanti simply means bold black and beautiful and most of us who live in the Caribbean are bold black and we are not white folks but the majority are black people. So I decided to work on that production and that really, to me it was something that I got passionate about. I started, I wrote the script. Usually I would just, you know, the concept would be bold and I would just work with it. It's from camera. My actors, I would work with the camera, my actors and my brain.  And when she said that, you know, I said, okay, I said, Drenia, I'll be humble. I'll do that. I have never written a script before. But this time around I'll be obedient. I'll do that. So for the first three films it was no script? No script, just from my brain to the camera. Okay, so what was that process like for you? It was really, I don't know, it's one thing I cannot describe because many producers I've met told me that's virtually impossible. You cannot produce a feature-length film the way I explain it. Yes, I don't understand how you're able to. But it happened over and over again. Right. And I guess I was inspired to do it that way because, yeah, you know, the concept was always given birth to and I mean, a movie production or full-length feature film always came out of it. So it worked back then. So Hollywood producers tell me, no, I can't argue that it can happen because it happened with me three times. Right. So but this time around I didn't do it that way. I sat down and for many months I wrote the script. Okay, so force-overline script. It was a specific time period. You said maybe early 1940s, within the 60s. What kind of research did you do in terms of the historical background for St. Lucia and part of it we'll find out later. It takes place in the UK. So in terms of research, how did you do research? Was it just speaking to people? It got very exciting after I won the competition. But there are things I never really thought of. It's only when I decided to write the script I realized what I was in for and into. We are not living in the 40s. And the props and whatever I needed, some of them are nonexistent. But I still took on the challenge because I had the passion and I really wanted it to happen. So I started identifying the locations, as you said, reading much more than I ever did before. And throughout that journey I realized that we in St. Lucia have not really secured our history or documented it. Okay, we'll be right back in a minute with more stories from Shanti's world. Yes and Lucia, this is your point Mark 11 telling all the drivers on the road. Be careful on the roads today. And always roll with a designated driver. If you're the driver, drink responsibly. Go and come back home safely. Out. A message from the Ministry of Health, Wellness, Human Services, Gender Relations, and this station. Welcome back. We're in the studio talking to Matri Emmanuel and we're joined by her film family. On stage with us right now is Miss Liz Tobier who is the prop manager and also an actress in the film. So welcome Liz. Thank you. So tell me what was your experience like because this film is a period piece. So you have the hair must be right, the clothes must be right, the cars must be right. You know everything, the location must be right. What was that experience like for you as the prop manager? Well, I must say it was very challenging, especially since we had to work with props from the 1960s. So that was quite challenging. But I am the prop manager, but I have to give credit to Miss Liz Mather in Emmanuel because she sourced all her props herself. She even had to go far back as you, going up the states I think it was, to get her props. So what kind of props? What kind of props are the props? I guess she will have to tell you about it first. So tell us, what are the props like in the film? The grip also. All right. And dresses like what you are wearing right now, the shirts for the men, the corduroy and whatever for the plantation workers. And you know the very interesting thing that happened is when the trailer was produced, a pastor from Florida saw the trailer, a Jamaican pastor, and when he saw it, he decided to come on board. But the way he did it was so interesting, it became a miracle for us because he sent us a huge box of clothing and he said to me, Miss Liz Emmanuel, I'm Jamaican, I'm Caribbean, I love what I see and I would like to ensure that I help. So what I want you to do is to just sell the item, sell the clothing at a dollar piece in St. Lucia and use that money to feed your actors. Interestingly, amazingly, when I opened that box, it's just what I wanted. The shirts I needed for the forest scene, white shirts, jeans, old pants that we could use for the men, dresses and whatever, the hats. But then when it comes to the suitcases, the old grips, not many people still have those. So I normally travel to the States. When I went to the thrift stores early morning, 10 o'clock, 9 o'clock, I would be at the thrift store waiting so that when they bring in their stuff, at least when they have their suitcases, I would be able to pick and choose what I really wanted. When I got 13, I decided, well, that would be okay because with camera tricks, you can actually multiply. You know what that is, right? So I got them and placed them in the boxes. We were also able to travel to the UK. You should have seen us at the airport if I would. I guess the minute they saw my face, they knew we were getting ready for some action somewhere. So we were able to travel with those suitcases, those old grips to the UK. We got what we wanted. So your props for St. Lucia and for the UK because the UK, you also have two portraits. You set also in 1940s London as well. So what was that like? What was that experience like? It was wonderful. You know, that's one of the things that I learned when you get inspired. You just have to move on. If you don't move, as I say to my son, if you do nothing, nothing will happen. And as we moved along from one stage to the next, whatever we needed were provided. So just when I was about to travel to the UK with my team, I got some discouragement from some persons. But then I remained enthusiastic and passionate about what I was doing. And this gentleman one day, when someone had just injected a negative thought in my mind, just about four hours after being told that I wouldn't be able to get any help in the UK, this gentleman called Matthew Alfred. You'll hear about him from me sometime. He called and he asked me whether I had intentions to come up to the UK. And he said to me explicitly you have a home up there. And that was amazing. It was a miracle. Up to now I consider it to be a miracle. We'll talk to him about that when we think, but I just want to talk quickly before we go to break about choosing the locations because that's a big part of the film. So not just in the UK, but in Senoche. What was that process like? Because from the trailer what I saw, I saw it like this beautiful like a plantation. But where did you get, where were you able to get those locations? St. Lucia is simply beautiful. And all the historic sites, and there's just so much more to what we have seen. But it took a lot of time, energy, you know, walking through the forest, going, driving, you know, around, going as far as Souffre, you know. But the good thing is we had people who were also interested in the project, were willing, drivers, were willing to take us from one location to the next. We'd walk and drive around and ask for permission to use those locations. And everything worked out well. We even had too much than, much more than we needed, you know. So it was an amazing, amazing experience, training sometimes. I would get tired, you know, at night, so I would sleep with one head there and the other head on the other. But overall you would see that experience. But overall it was wonderful meeting people and, you know, just knowing that they too share your passion and that was really encouraging. Okay, great. So we're going to take another break, but when we come back we're going to speak to your actors and we're going to hear what their process was like, what it was like, what could it be, if it was their first time and so on. Thank you. So stay tuned, we'll be right back. I'm innovative. Sure! I'm competitive! I'm productive. I am creative. I constantly improve what I do and how I do it. I'm output oriented. I never stop learning. I give off my best, always. The National Competitiveness and Productivity Council embracing excellence. Welcome back and we're still talking Shanti's World and now we're joined by two actors from the film, Denzi Charles and Colby Devo. Welcome guys. Thank you for having us. No problem. So Denzi, tell me. Was this your first film? Yes, it was. And what was that like? Well, to me it was a very fun experience making new friends, having new adventures and new challenges to face. Okay, so how did you get involved? Did you know Mrs. Emanuel? Did you say, well one day I want to be an actress? Actually, I was at class and she actually came to my class and she saw me and she was like, you're perfect. Denzi, go. Okay, that's all right. What about you, Colby? Yeah, no, this is my first experience in film of any kind. I did theater at Secondary School and funnily enough it was when we were getting ready for because I went to St. Mary's College. We were getting ready for literary night. My principal at the time, Mr. Seon, came up to me and he said and I will repeat this word for word. There's a lady in Dairy Soul who's making a film and they need a white boy. So I told her I had one and yeah, so I went down and I auditioned for the part and the experience was incredible. Master said she wrote a script, but I'll tell you this. You get down, you read the script and then she tells you, okay, all I need from you is you have to say this line. Everything else, you just make it up. You kind of go around because I know you can do it and I've seen you do it. I just need this line. So it was, yes, there's a script but a lot of it is really the actor being in character and really putting out what the character would be.  What kind of research did you do? How deeply did you dive into your character for that role? To say I went and did a lot of research, not really. I did history for CXC so I knew what happened during this kind of times and people would send their children away for school and for all sort of things. So it was kind of easy, especially when, I mean you'll see in the movie there are scenes where Chante's dad or my mother for example they make it very easy to play the kind of character that I have to play simply because of how well they portray their characters.  So Denzi, what about you? So when you got on set, what was that like? Well at first I was terrified. I had to come out of my shell being in this project, really helping with that. And now I would say I'm a pretty bold person now because of this film. Okay, because of the film. Okay, so are you looking forward to being in more films? Definitely. Okay, so like actors have a very special relationship with the director. So what was that like for you guys with with my friend? What was that like?  So my mother would say I'm the same way. So our personalities blended very well. Okay, and for you Kobe, what was that like? I never felt unwelcome. I never felt ostracised or different. And when you get down there, they always teased me. Everybody teased me about one thing. I can't speak a word of crew at all. So everybody would tease me about that. But otherwise I never felt different at all. It was a great place to be, great experience. And were you also in the UK cast as well? No. Or were you just looking a little upset about that? They left me behind. But I could understand because I mean expenses and everything. But your character story didn't travel into that space? No, because my character would have gone to France on the other side. And at the time I had Cape Around the Corner because I think they went in April. And my exam started in May. So there was no way my mother would have let me go anyway. Okay, so is there any other experience from the film that you guys want to share? Like anybody probably wants to be an actress. They don't know where to start. They don't know what to do. Like Denzi, for example. Somebody who's shy. And maybe has never thought that they could be an actress. And you're saying that it has helped you in terms of, you know, being more open. So what would you say to somebody who wants to? Well, what I would say to them is that with me what it was that I thought I'd be criticized a lot. I just want them to know that it's not as bad as you would think. You don't criticize as much. More people want to be friends with you and you make more friends and become more open with you. Oh wow, so it's like popular after the movie. Like you become the celebrity. So Kobe, for you, what's next? Do you think, because you said you did theatre arts. So is this something that you want to, a path you want to continue on? Acting for sure. I love acting. I love being on stage. Being in a movie, maybe not so much. I'm also extremely shy. And being in the public eye, that's kind of hard for me. People coming up to me and asking me, are you in a movie or recognizing me from something, I tend to shy away. But my problem with that is my career choice is... But you do the theatre, so you're on stage and you have no cut? Yeah, I always said I like being in a play because for two weeks you hear about it and then it's done. I'm always going to be in people's homes when I'm 75 years old. On that note, we have to take a break. When we come back, we're going to speak to Matherin some more and speak about the UK experience. There are four basic rules to developing and maintaining good oral health. Brushing after meals and before going to bed, flossing at least once for the day, eating the right foods and visiting the dentist regularly. Remember, you won't keep those smiles for the next years. A message from the dental department of the Ministry of Health and this station. Okay, welcome back. And we're still talking Shantae's world and now Mrs. Immanuel is back on stage, but we're also joined by Matthew Melcher. Before we get into Matthew's group, I want to bring up the fact that part of it was done in the UK. That is quite an expensive undertaking as one might imagine. So what kind of support did you receive? Did you receive institutional support from government? Did you receive, and then we'll talk about the support you received from Mr. Melcher. Yeah, thanks. I must confess that if it had not been for the government, we would not have been where we are right now. One of the things I always keep saying to myself, I never envisioned it would have been such an expensive project. This is a high-budget film. $667,000. Well, I mean, for the big countries, America and the UK, that's not money. But for us, you understand much more than that. So we worked extremely hard to cut down on costs. Most times, I would wake up in the morning, at one o'clock in the morning, to cook for my crew and my team. That was sacrificial. Also, spending the night writing the novel as well. And as I said previously, we had to make up for quite a few things or sacrifice so that we could make it a reality. But when it comes to, well, locally, I must thank Honorable Fortuna Bellrose because she remained with us throughout the journey. She was always there, always encouraging and always attentive to our needs. And the government helped as much as possible. And we have still requested some more help because what we wanted this film to be, it's not just inclusion. We are embracing the Caribbean. And it is not just entertainment. It is our culture, our history. And we went all out to ensure that we help preserve and conserve that aspect of our Caribbean life and culture. So let's rig in Mr. Melcher. And how did his assistants help you? Because you're from the UK and you're from a group friends of St. Lucia. Correct. So you were also an actor in the movie. But tell us how you and Matthew met up and she has spoken about the assistants that she received from you. So just give us a little insight. Well, through the charity back in the UK, Friends of St. Lucia Clubs International. Tell us a little bit about that charity. Oh, well, basically, this is a new charity with a branch of solutions in the UK. And basically what we aim in today is to create a charity franchise where in the next few years we encourage people from around the world to form branches of Friends of St. Lucia so they can all work together by identifying various projects here on the island working together with established branches here in the UK. So in the UK, one of my members happened to be a relative of the assistant director and I think also the director as well. And they have been talking without my knowledge and I keep a lot of the meetings at my venue in the UK. And it was closer to the, just before April, this member approached me and said, Matthew, there's a group from St. Lucia who's working on this project. They would need some place to live. And I have access to a big six bedroom house in the UK. So she said to me, it would be wonderful if you could think about helping them. And for me it was a natural thing to do because when you have a project like this in St. Lucia, I was also given a backdrop information about what they have done before. So for me it was an easy decision to say yes, the place is available. And I contacted Miss Matherin Senolator. But did I also see that you are a leader actor? I'm not sure myself to be honest with you. I have never done anything quite like it. Never imagined. And so was that experience like it was a new experience and how were you convinced or what about the story? I wasn't convinced, that's the thing. Matherin convinced you? I do remember when I first spoke to Matherin. She just mentioned to me, I remember that day when I called her and said, hey, are you still coming? Because I was told about it but I never heard anything further. Because I was making plans to visit Senolator times. I wanted to make my arrangements. And then I spoke to her and she disclosed that she had just spoken to someone who said she'd be very lucky if she found someone in the UK to give them any form of assistance in terms of free accommodation. And at the very same time, I called to say the place is available. And that's why she referenced the miracle that she mentioned a while ago. So that was the first contact. But during the talk with her, she hinted, oh, by the way... That's the way! Exactly, yes. I'm looking at you and your accent. And I wasn't convinced. So I just brushed it aside. I said, nope, I have the place for you. That's fantastic. When a group came up, she also tried to help me to do some rehearsals. And I wasn't buying it because I wasn't convinced. You're right. And until the moment when I realized she was serious about me participating. And I decided, okay, well, let's just do it. Right. And before we have to go to close, just the fact that this is a film about the Windrush generation, it was filmed in the UK. How does it really market for your film? And in what way do you think you can export your film to the UK or get an audience in the UK? Well, currently I'm thinking that we already have an established audience. Because it's their story, you know? And I think they will appreciate it. As I said before, we put everything that we have into it, our time, our energy. Most of the actors did a superb job. I cannot think... I recall one actor now at this point in time who didn't do their role well enough. And so we anticipate a great film. Just being able to do a feature film that is quite an undertaking. And to be able to do a film now in the UK and signature, what kind of advice would you give to a filmmaker, maybe not just a filmmaker, a musician, to somebody who's creative in a very tough industry, what kind of advice would you give to them? As I said previously, if you do nothing, nothing will happen. Secondly, you don't listen to the negative vibes. You just move on. As I said before, I never thought for a moment that it would not happen. I just didn't know how. And it just happened that Mr. Melcher called me that day and he said, yes, somebody told him and whatever, and he's willing to help. And he became the venue for it to happen. So even if he had not, I still believe that some other channel would have opened, another door would have opened. And that's how I look at it, but I'm happy we did because he's a wonderful gentleman. He walked the path with us. He walked the walk. He talked to the talk. He was always very cordial, very nice. And up to this date, we have adopted him as our own. So I think hopefully the next time we have you on here, it will be to see the movies done. It's ready in the cinemas. We're encouraging people to go out to see it. So that's hopefully the next time we see you. This is what will be discussed. So I want to thank you and the entire Chante's World family for joining us at the GIS Studios for this. And so thanks for joining us, guys. And hopefully we'll be back with Mrs. Matlin Emmanuel very soon.