Hi everybody. It's so lovely to see you all. Thank you so much for being here. Welcome to Brain Club. Just to introduce myself, both for those who are here and who are watching on recording. I'm Mel Hauser. I use she, they pronouns and I'm the executive director here at Allbrains Blanc. And you are joining us for Brain Club in our monthly book chat where today we will be chatting about A Day with No Words by Tiffany Hammond. So as you may know, Brain Club is our weekly community education program about everyday brain life. It's our intentionally created educational space to educate community about neurodiversity. And what we like to say right off the bat, just sort of define our roles here and our purpose because we know that as a community health organization that provides medical care and non-medical care, this is in the non-medical care bucket. 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You just have to toggle it on if you'd like to use it. Depending on what version of Zoom you have, you might see the live transfer closed captioning icon. But if not, try the more dot dot dot and choose show subtitles. You can do the same to choose types of titles if you want to turn them off. And to find the chat, look for the speech bubble. All right. So last week of June, we're all month, we have been discussing various aspects of neurodivergent health. So a day with no words, which is a number one bestseller on the New York Times picture book list is written by Tiffany Hammond, who is an autistic person, I think diagnosed at age 18, and the parent of two autistic sons. And we're going to actually this is we have a video with the entirety of the book that we're going to watch tonight. And we're also going to watch a couple of clips of Tiffany talking about why she wrote the book and the broader context of conversation that we are inviting tonight. Because on a superficial level, this is a book about a non speaking autistic child of color and the ways in which the world interacts with him and the broader societal picture of changes that need to be made and what's possible. But we're hoping that this also invites reflection and conversation around the intersectionality of all of the different ways in which humans are other. And in this space, we talk about the neurodivergent community, but that is not a homogenous group. And since we all carry so many different aspects of our identity and we all experience intersectional aspects of privilege, intersectional aspects of oppression, power, and how that all plays out. And so there are going to be some themes that may be new if there are topics presented in the interviews of Tiffany Hammond that maybe don't match your personal experience, depending on how many different background characteristics of identity you share with the author. And either way, I think that centering the author's and her family's experience to learn about those other aspects of identity and how this intersects with neurodivergence. So as I said, Tiffany Hammond is an autistic author. She's a speaker, consultant, advocate, and parent of two autistic children. And she describes her work as sharing stories to challenge the perception of disability as a lifelong burden, cultivate a community that explores intersectionality and inspiring thought leadership through storytelling, education, and critical discourse. And we'll show this a couple different times, but we've been following Tiffany's work for a while here at All Greens Belong, and I definitely encourage you to check out her website and her Instagram account, which I personally learn so much from. All right, so David, can you play video number one? This is like the intro level of like why did Tiffany write this book? My son knows words, he just doesn't speak them. I love him so much that I'm like choosing to enter his world instead of trying to force him to enter mine. First and foremost, it's a love note to my Aiden, and it's inspired by a day that his brother came and said we should have. We should talk like Aiden talks, and it just kind of started those days, doing it the entire day. In the house, outside of the house, going on errands, going on field trips, going on whatever, just using it. You know, I didn't want it to be like just a book that just talked about all the deficits that he has as being autistic. It's about him, and it's inspired by his life, and how he is, and how loving he is, and how forgiving he is, and how caring he is. And it's just a story about a boy who just loves life, and he just happens to not speak. But now, let's let Olivia in. There we go. The deeper context of this book, as I said, is a look at the intersectional impact of having multiple characteristics of identity that are marginalized, and that when we think about inclusion, inclusion is perceived belonging, and anytime someone is othered, that's not going to be an inclusion. And when there are multiple aspects of marginalization that someone experiences, even when they are in communities of people who share some background characteristics, many people do not feel included and don't feel safe. And I'm going to just like provide a broader context for what this looks like. This is a public health framework, looking at health and equity and all of the variables that contribute to health and equity. I'm just going to zoom in. Oh, Lizzie, we forgot to fix the picture. It's a little bit blurry. I'm going to narrate. It's a lot of it blurry to my brain. So I'm just going to talk us through it. Social inequity, discrimination based on race, class, gender, sexuality, disability, which is of course going to have a bidirectional relationship to all access to power and like the institutional systemic power inequities that go on, which of course is going to have an impact on living conditions, things in the physical environment, social environment, economic and work environments, access to service environment, which of course is also going to then connect to the types of risk behaviors or environmental risks that someone struggles with, which of course is also going to then impact health conditions, chronic disease, substances, all kinds of things, which of course is going to connect to life expectancy. And when we think about all of these different variables, neurodivergent people have unequal access to so many of these different things, which is why when we talk about neurodivergent people as experiencing health inequities and then you layer on other aspects of marginalization, including race, class, gender, sexuality, the problem is compounded even more. I don't know why there's a million copies of these pictures. It appears as though I tried to do something better about these pictures. This is to show that access to health care, health education, support in all the different ways in which people need support for their health is also often thwarted in exponential ways for multiple marginalized people. All right, David, we are ready for video three to listen to Tiffany Hammond sharing her experiences and reflections on neurodivergence and intersectionality. I see a lot of inclusion and I see a lot of diversity posts and comments and then in my head I'm like we do not implement those very well. I think that a lot of people are satisfied with just putting diverse bodies into spaces where they weren't any and then they think that's what it is or with schools and we're like we're just going to put more disabled children with non-disabled children and then that's it and we're good and I think that we don't go far enough and I am exploring that post in so much greater detail and I'm going to share that later sometime but what I was getting at was that I don't feel comfortable within the autism community as a whole you know if I did I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing right now like I wouldn't be there's a lot of division there's a lot of there's a hierarchy here whether people want to admit it or not and and that's with all other disabled movements as well it's like it's they're all centered in in whiteness and they all do not consider the needs of their black and indigenous populations and so that was me saying I don't feel fully comfortable within the autism community. I also don't feel fully comfortable within the neurodiversity community either for the same reasons and when I wrote that I was like we gotta figure out a way to because at their core intersectionality and neurodiversity want the same thing and they examine the same types of things and so what would it be like if they work together instead of being two parallel concepts and so I was thinking I was like how would they work how would neurodiversity as a paradigm work with intersectionality as the theoretical concept and so that's what I was exploring when I was writing that I was like what would they how would that look and I was like I think we would have a better understanding of diversity and inclusion if we worked those two together like what are their strengths in each what are their what are their core principles would they work well together could they work well together and that's what I was doing I was writing it out and I think I was trying to like find the answer myself as I was writing I wanted to know like how would they work yeah together because I feel like they both want the same things yeah definitely and a lot of this can sound really abstract sometimes so what are some of your examples specifically like maybe could you put it in a real life example um so that people can better understand so I'm seeing here and I'm um like an example of the way it could work together so intersectionality it looks at the our systems of privilege and oppression so it's looking at um not just all the ways that we are put at a disadvantage it's also looking at the ways that we are privileged it's looking at where power comes in and where power leaves it's a power based concept what intersectionality will do is it will take a person or a community and it will look at where their where their power comes in and where their power depletes or where they have no power at all and they are looking to find different ways that they can support that person or that community based on where their power fluctuates you know um neural diversity does similar but then I kind of look a little bit of a different way so what they are looking at is they're looking at how our brains operate and how it works within a society who mostly disables us because of how our minds work or because of how our bodies work um they're looking at also where we are strong at and where society will view us as we get and looking at all the ways that they can address those needs and help those with different minds live successfully in this world and so when you have these two intersectionality and neural diversity both looking at different power structures different privileges different oppressions and you have these two incredibly what I feel are powerful concepts or powerful things and they're operating in different lanes I was just like what if we put them together so I'm sitting there and I'm like as a black autistic woman that I'm disadvantaged in a lot of different ways and intersectionality recognizes this it shows where my power lies and it'll show me where it doesn't what can they what can be done to fix that you're looking at a a black child who's autistic who will be diagnosed at a later age than a white child with autism um excuse me if they're diagnosed at all but sometimes they're misdiagnosed sometimes they're not diagnosed at all and sometimes they're given diagnosis of ODB um or just simply ADHD if even that you know a lot of times we don't even get one or they're diagnosed far later so they're missing out on a lot of vital early intervention programs they're missing out on a lot of services schools will suspend black children at higher rates um expel them at higher rates so then they're also missing out on services and supports there so intersectionality will look at what is happening here and they'll attempt to address that neurodiversity also does a similar thing they're looking at their minds they're looking at how their minds operate why is it that this mind is treated so differently than every other one what is it that can be done to address that and so when looking at both of them and dissecting both of their parts right because I like to take things apart so looking at them both separately and you're looking at these and you're just like they're kind of wanting similar things they're kind of wanting the same types of things they're looking at the same types of stuff right so why not try to figure out how well they could intersect a lot of times people don't really look at um intersectionality from a disabled perspective see a lot of times disabled people are left out of like a lot of conversations majority conversations really and so then but then you have the neurodiversity movement and they're not always looking at race right they're usually just looking at neuro type they're usually just approaching the the issue as a state of how our minds are operating they're just usually approaching it from me just being autistic mm-hmm so they're looking for solutions on how to help me as an autistic person and then you typically neglect that I have these issues coming into me for as being a black person as well so we need to introduce both introduce because a lot of times neurodiversity isn't intersectional that much especially when it cross sections with race or gender or um sexuality anything it's a it's a large focus on a neuro type how our brains are and how we are disadvantaged in a society that leverages normal brains quote unquote um yeah yeah you're bringing up a lot of great points and you're creating that space like you're saying through your blog you're inviting the different angles to shed some light on areas that maybe weren't that's what I'm trying to do I mean even if you even if you were to ask someone who's not in the disabled community at all but they've heard of neurodiversity and you're like what do y'all guys think neurodiversity is most of the people that have asked they automatically assume it's an autistic movement like they don't even consider the other neuro types out there yeah and so it's looked at as a wholly largely autistic thing and they're missing all of the other neurodevelopmental diagnosis is out there they're missing ADHD they're missing dyslexia you know they're missing those they're missing those that have like autism and ADHD together you know or if they have another type of learning disability it's together and so at first I was like oh okay well they don't really know that much about the neurodiversity community because they're like outside of it so maybe that's why they just assume it's an autism thing but when you actually break it down and you're sitting there and you're looking at it it does look largely autistic right it's like it that's what dominates this movement you know and it's like we aren't really looking at other diagnosis is that make our minds different that make our minds different from the general population and that also like we're kind of intersectional in our neuro type as well because everything's not you know one kind of thing so yeah and it's important to give everyone a voice and a place to stand yeah that's what I think that's why I was thinking they can work they can work together yeah I think that it can just like as like I was as I was saying I was like intersectionality or as it will look at me as a black person and a woman and it and it'll combine those two and then it'll show a completely new experience that I have so it's it's it's me being more than black it's me being more than a woman it's me being put together and what experience doesn't a completely new experience that I have so if we were to find a way to put intersectionality together with neurodiversity combine those that would create an entirely different framework that we can operate under yeah and maybe that will give us some better ways to address the issue of inclusion or diversity what does that really mean you've been watching autism knows no borders if you like this video please give it a thumbs up and subscribe to our channel also thank you I'm just going to comment in the chat I started typing a response but I'll I'll I'll I'll use mouth words the rest of my response so it's come in the chat from Elizabeth I feel like because of how neurodivergent folks are so sensitive to power dynamics fairness poking at the inconsistencies of systems we're uniquely positioned to communicate about inequality and what I started to type is that I think that while many autistic and or ADHD folks are sensitive to energy by our dynamics I'm more sensitive to threat such people do end up often becoming advocates for a more just society and I think that from the the perspective of safety there's so many things that go into the perception of safety threat versus safety and there are many nervous systems that that that recognize that if if not everyone is safe no one is safe all right so so David I think we can now that we have this background context I think I think it's time to watch the book a day with no words by Tiffany Hammond illustrations by Kate Cosgrove early morning chases a long night mama pulls the curtains back to welcome the sunlight my eyes squeeze shut but I'm not ready to get up but I open my eyes I reach for my tablet look at the screen tap yes on the app my thoughts are now seen I am surrounded by voices chattering away it seems as if everyone has so much to say some people have big voices that feel like storms in my head they thrash and they scream others have voices that are soft and smooth like freshly whipped cream like water mama's voice dances around bobbing up and down as it leaves her throat much like the waves that carry a boat daddy's voices like air soft as a light summer breeze that kisses my cheek strong as the winds of hurricanes that abandon ships at sea all these people around me diverse and unique I hear them all but they do not hear me I do not speak I was born like this no voice from my lips I am autistic I use a tablet to be heard pushing buttons with pictures that speak my words mama taps park now no crowd I love the park and quickly tap yes with no crowd I'll feel less stress mama knew this she always knows when I feel comfortable and when my anxiety grows I do things many people do not understand I like to stare through the parted fingers of my right hand I comfort the trees with hugs when the sun disappears I like to spin barefoot on soft grass after the rain clears there are some kids at the park with their mamas nearby the clouds are still gray because the sky has just cried they all turn to look at me as I jump and flap one mother sneers that boy is handicapped mama inhales deeply her brows crease she closes her eyes deep breath release mama types quickly her fingers are blur the tablet she holds says her words my son does not speak but his ears work just fine the words that you say go straight to his mind then mama turns to me with a smile and taps on her screen wet grass soft spin shoes socks off bare skin and I want to twirl twirl and damp grass until I can no longer stand I tap all done mama smiles and takes my hand mama turns on her tablet looks at the cashier smiles then types small fries root beer it takes him a moment but then he pushes buttons too mama looks down at me your turn you choose I tap my tablet quickly I don't need time to decide chicken nuggets orange soda a large side of fries this was a very special book and I hope you enjoyed it I will read to you again soon I love you so much even so I think that when we think about hearing descriptions of experiences that maybe maybe we've experienced ourselves maybe we've not I think that as we seek to more fully understand neurodivergence neurodiversity the broad number of ways in which brains differ within the context of identity I think it it is essential to center the experiences of people whose experiences differ from our own and I'm going to just share screen again with some prompts of some questions that our team was wondering about today so I think that when we think about inclusive community a community where everyone feels that they belong how do we do that how do we choose safety to all nervous systems acknowledging that there are much like Tiffany Hammond described how she herself as a well-known autistic advocate does not feel safe comfortable within the space of other autistic people and when we think about how autistic burnout that is depleting cognitive resources maybe interfering with perspective taking or advocating or reflecting and learning in ways that need doing I think that probably does play a role in interfering with truly inclusive community but I wonder I wonder what folks think and feel free to feel free to respond to these prompts or feel free to share whatever whatever additional reflections you have about anything that has come up tonight also okay to sit and think yeah great idea Alicia here we go I'll also put in the chat on the website and Instagram handle for Tiffany Hammond as well oh go ahead David yeah no I just could you say a bit more about how those three prompts emerge from the book what the connection is I don't think that they did directly come from the book these were um on reflecting about the topic of members of the broader neurodivergent community because of intersectional aspects of their identity that are marginalized besides being neurodivergent as our as our staff here was reflecting on that and you know how do we at offerings belong for example like how do we cue safety don't like anyway like these are the questions that came up for for us that I'm throwing out to you even though they were not directly raised in the picture book Sarah I mean I love I love the concept that she that um like uh that the author comes up with about just sort of expanding this concept of neurodiversity um and the and um and I'm thinking that that um and and I also love sort of the that the the idea of kind of expanding the the neurodiversity into sort of this idea of human diversity it strikes me that as a as a you know for whatever historic or survival reasons you know as a as a culture or society what we we've sort of got we sort of did this all backwards um that we with we um we started out like pathologizing human difference before we ever tried to understand it and so um so we've got all of this pathology and we've got all these experts um who who don't actually have the difference itself that are experts on the pathology and treating the pathology and who have never like you've never been to pathology land I mean they've never lived with they they've never lived with the thing that they are supposedly experts and they never really tried to understand from the perspective from the first person perspective of the person who's so called pathological what what what what what what this what this is and what whether there's a gift to this or not and then whether evolution is up to something or not and and so I think the the idea is what would it be like I mean I think our journey at this point in human history is really to go to go back and to say wait wait wait we've pathologized all this stuff without trying to understand it without trying to understand how um whether how evolution could be up to something how our culture could benefit from these differences um what these different how these differences could reflect healthy ranges of difference in our species that could be complementary um that that could or that could show us that could highlight aspects of our our humanity that could be that that we wouldn't understand our giftedness without our differences um and um and and so so to take that I think it's sort of this that that and it includes like you know we I think of um my own struggle you know with things that they call depression or with things that you know they call bipolar and and I think well we're sort of pathologized low mood and we pathologize you know you're supposed to be too happy or you're not supposed to be too sad and we pathologize those kinds of ranges without the idea well what what could we get I mean what what what's what's useful about these things as a culture maybe maybe these two these things too are reflect differences within our species and maybe maybe across the span of mental disorder is not just I mean it strikes me a lot of people that I know who have had alternate reality experiences that we might call schizophrenia or hearing voices that that there's a there's a huge overlap between that and and a kind of spirituality or a sensitivity to um to a sensitivity to to things to a world of perception that um that that um that then that there's a giftedness there or a potential giftedness there that and we don't even know if there's a giftedness there because we've dismissed it before even exploring it and so those are so I think which strikes me as unscientific and and among other things in addition to a sort of a crime against humanity but um so anyway I'll stop yammering on you get my point but but I just sort of think we could there's a ways we could expand diversity and I love this idea of expanding neurodiversity and I and I'd like to even kind of push the edges of that and say well maybe maybe the entire DSM we could expand the concept of neurodiversity to that that maybe maybe there's benefits maybe there's things are really really overlooking that we yet we haven't even asked the question yet about how how these things could be helping how we could be helping each other with these traits so anyway thanks for listening to me for so long thank you Sarah and I think that um when we think about um I think one of one of the many points you made Sarah is about centering the experience of a person who is experiencing whatever someone's talking about um and I think you know as we layer layer on um you know all of the all all of the ways in which aspects of identity stack up um I think that that that concept is also very true um just working working backwards in the chat um Jack says regarding the first question of how we can cue safety for all nervous systems Jack says what we can do is consider how we set up a space virtual and in person and have a plan for when access needs clash yeah um there's a um a panel on this at at the uh recent um star um sensory processing and also some costs for conference and seek out and be open to and take in feedback and then apply said feedback and that this has brought each of those pieces above could be taken apart and discussed with greater nuance right I think that um uh yes and so um setting up the space virtual and in person you know that not just like the the physical or the environmental but like the the emotional or cognitive aspect um of of of how to set up a space um I think are are really important and um we we brain club in October the whole theme was neuro inclusive space but um and and while there may have been like brief mentions um to other marginalized aspects of identity um I don't know that we covered that or talked about that in as much depth as we should have during during that month and I think it would be wise to revisit that for sure reading Allie's comment um I really resonate with the idea of society learning different brain types instead of diagnosing you know whether that be autism or ADHD is a difference to be treated moving into a world um or we're simply learning that there are multiple brain types and they're all valuable and serve a purpose similarly to how all live experiences perspectives and backgrounds bring value and meaning to humanity thank you Allie thank you Jack um what else is is coming up for folks around around community around inclusion around queuing safety for all of our community members there's a lot of queuing of safety in that book of course she's heard the way she deals with situations and is sensitive to the her son's access needs I mean it's beautifully presented and it's a beautiful book absolutely um and I think like so so much like the way that a person is viewed well like the paradigm through which a person is viewed I think so so determines the the energy um that that enters into into an equation and I think that um for so many people who are viewed through a deficit-based lens by by other people um that energy is unsafe and is experienced by many of those nervous systems I'm gonna just share screen again um Lizzie plucked out some quotes from the book so um I'm surrounded by voices chattering away it seems as if everyone has so much to say and I think that um for non-speaking communicators um and I think like in healthcare we see this we see these these slights of non-speaking communicators not being addressed directly for example um the mistake around expressive language via smoke and communication as though that has anything to do with receptive language understanding spoken speech I think that that is um that is a theme that I think when we think about last month's book chat when we looked at the reason I jumped that was this this quote reminded me of a similar quote from that non-speaking author just to catch up in the chat um Elizabeth says queuing safety I just want to acknowledge that the person holding the most power in a space has to be the one to queue safety for those with less power yes thank you Elizabeth Allie is referencing to the idea of um teaching children about different perspectives and backgrounds of this book would be a perfect tool for that writing a basis of understanding of difference and safety can assist in further inclusivity I agree um when just about three years old um you know I just named the thing that that people communicate in all different ways and so the first time that she encountered um an adolescent using an AAC device alternative augmentive communication she was like oh it's an AAC device do do do like it was it was like no big deal because it is no big deal um and um I think I think to Allie's point normalizing difference as early as possible is really important Jack points out that part of set during the experience of neurodivergent people whose experiences differ from our own is asking questions like who's presenting at conferences who's invited to teach at schools who was in charge of the event planning what books and other media are you consuming and whose perspective was centralized in your own education and media growing up um noticing patterns of consumption and education without judgment giving yourself grace and unlearning all of the the isms that the discriminatory isms um it's a lifelong process and part of unlearning I'm sorry I'm reading over and over sorry brain at this hour um is exploring a variety of media taking classes reading books watching films that center those whose experiences differ from our own thank you Jack um and we will continue to be doing that um all all July long um because our theme for July is reimagining community um and um we will be taking a look um both through the lens of healthcare employment um and our our and the way the the the the way that we engage all of these um intersectional aspects of identity um over the next month um thank you Lizzie for putting the registration link in the chat um let me just actually Lizzie just made our schedule and here we go let me share um next week there will be no brain club on July 4th um on July 11th we'll be talking about employment class and health on the 18th um we've invited a guest presenter Chrissy Cologne Brant who is one of the co-authors of Parenting for Social Justice I looked for a visual support that I could hold up the book um and then um for our book chat for July we'll be taking a look at Things You're More Not Broken by Eric Garcia so with that thank you all so much for coming tonight and participating in your own ways and um we'll look forward to seeing you in two weeks. Have a good night. Bye


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Phillies are up 8-5 and in the top of the eighth Dimebacks are up 5-5 on the Tigers 11-6 right so apparently Rendon Rebels saying was the one who kind of started after the hit by pitch and was mouthing something the J rod Julio Rodriguez he wasn't having it trout was got a little mouthy too it's exciting there's bright's heart poor Bryce Harper got hit in the hand there's Mike trout got in the in the hand by a Blake Snell pitch he fractured a finger there's Vidal Bruhan big piece of his jersey going to Tyler in the rays so what happened to that Yankees game Rebels saying Yankees about whether we're about to get no hit again but judge walked it off with a three-run homer wow yeah sometimes that happens I remember a couple years ago the Dodgers offense was cruising and then they got no hit it happened sometimes it's baseball there's Chris Bassett to 199 and Jermaine Mercedes Jersey and Otto for the White Sox that's gonna go to Eric Leal and the South Siders and we've got Alejo Lopez Jersey and autographed rookie Jersey Nato for Cincinnati that's for Dennis on the Red Legs 98 out of 199 and we'll do a hit and low-numbered card recap at the end there's Nate Lowe to 99 that's for Texas that'll be for Rex there's a John Helsley alright that's for Kansas City that's gonna go to Brett and we got a cracked ice eight out of 25 AJ Alexi Alexi Alexi that's for that's for Rexie Alex it was a little Alexi out of 25 let's brace picture Strider he's got a got a great mustache like an old 70s 80s mustache right there I don't know did you did you check the site no I don't have access to that you don't have access to jasperace.com I got this like two weeks ago I guess every every day it grows every day grows a little bit I got Ryan Vellad 105 out of 149 Donald with Colorado and Glen Otto for the Rangers that's gonna be for Rex and Texas Rexus Rexus Rangers there's Taylor Ward Jersey and autograph for Tampa Bay Tyler with Taylor and Tampa 244 out of 299 there's Connor Wong Jersey and autograph for the red red legs but the red socks Josh Proust with the red socks 33 out of 199 right that's the joke Rex how could he not have access to a website that he could easily look and see if there's a certain break on the case breaks out of things I tell you was just being lazy I had to unlazy Teddy there there's you Darvish 14 out of 50 Padres Steven Yarmola gotta gotta teach gotta teach a man to fish isn't that what ooh thought that was gonna be patch auto no just patch just the relic Tyler with the rays give a man a website Rex and you can he can browse for a day teach a man how to get to a website he can browse for a lifetime there's Raleigh fingers to 199 Oakland A's Kyle Kyle D with the A's let's go Cody Belanger oh and to Cody need a maybe a home run from you actually to be honest with you Rex Teddy is not allowed access to a lot of things at Jasper's is his grasp on technology nice hit belly his grasp of technology is questionable at times breaking is saying I've been here since I pulled that 30 auto booklet a couple years ago so that's a long time hopefully you've taken some breaks in between and there's Logan Webb piece of his jersey for the Giants Joshua with the Giants 44 out of 250 maybe in your world Rex not in my world though a lot of a lot of people who are eager to learn here posei Devers Miami Marlins Dennis with the cracked ice auto that's 17 that's check that it's 11 out of 25 there's Rodolfo Castro jersey and autograph for the Pirates that's Kevin M and the buckles on a slightly thicker cardstock here too 77 out of 99 on that red white and blue red white and blue red white and gold gold parallel whatever that is tricolor I don't know the names tie-dye coming up love the way these look that's Fran mille reyes 19 out of 20 tie-dye hey drew welcome back no no word yet but it is Sunday I'm sure we'll have word by it started business tomorrow 125 out of 199 Joe Adele Han with the angels oh look at this a Shohei Otani color wheel that is sharp Han with the angels nice snap that for picture time a little bit later 30 out of 99 Tyler glass now wander Franco rookie card and Tyler McGill I'm sure they'll just send us three slabs is what I'm assuming I think that's fair all right so that wander rookie in this glass now we'll go to you Tyler all right next box yeah well I'm curious to I'm curious to exactly what they'll send hopefully it'll be something nice I'm not holding my breath I think it'll be something that's I think that'll be something that's commensurate with the value of the product I wouldn't hold my breath thinking that they're gonna send us Michael Jordan PSA 10 rookie cards yeah that was that that was here I was a last-ditch and it's not that big of a deal they're gonna they're gonna send they'll make it right it was just a little a little bit of a downer at the time but I don't think we're gonna have a problem with them sending us replacement slabs completing the break we got Max Kepler piece of his jersey Rex doing a little little research for us saying that there is one of him pitching Ohtani pitching color wheel three days left already at 330 and then one of him hitting at 310 with five days left and that Kepler is 250 that's for Joshua and the twins we got Ehrman Mercedes Jersey and autograph for Eric and the White Sox we got Aaron Ashby Allen's Allen's nephew or son Andy Ashby's nephew or son part of the Ashby baseball clan this is Aaron Ashby 173 at 299 for Milwaukee that's gonna go to Oliver got the brew crew in the random the team random we did that Zach Gallin 26 out of 135 hi Adam first time break where there's no there are no guaranteed break times is David Fletcher 176 out of 1 and we just we just sell it out and then we break it first to fill first to break and that's for Han and the Angels David Fletcher red little color match the Angels colors and we've got another angel Brandon Marsh piece of his jersey going to Han and the halos got Jordan Montgomery 20 out of 149 for the Yankees Joshua with the Bronx bombers all right next box it's a final in San Diego Phillies beat the Padres eight to five I think the Phillies were down for a little bit and then I think Kyle Shorver three run home or put them ahead and they got some insurance runs and went from there Harhill what's going on happy Sunday it's going got the braven Yankees and select five nice feel like that select five another full case of this is is cruising along nicely that's down to 19 teams already there's a there's a chance we can very good chance that we can get it done by by end of business tonight we check the schedule in the chat you'll see that we wrap things up at around 11 o'clock Pacific 2 a.m. east coast time down to 19 teams on select figure team five all right behind Raphael Devers is a ricelle a Glesius 10 out of 10 gold parallels some nice colors in that small window there I think he was involved in the brawl today I think his participation was dumping according to someone in the chat he dumped a tub of bubblegum at home plate not the not the bubblegum ricelle bubblegum that's Han with the halos we've got Logan Gilbert nice autograph for Seattle Patrick with the m's 84 out of 199 ricelle is mad he got ejected I mean yeah I mean I guess I would be mad too in those circumstances but I don't think I've seen that before I mean I'm sure it's happened but I don't think you get ejected you get tossed you run to the dugout you take the tub of we've seen the we've seen the kick the dirt on the umpire shoes there's Kyle Muller for the Braves it's Nestor in Atlanta you know we've seen maybe some hold me backs right a lot of finger pointing at the umpire you know teammate trying to hold back that kind of stuff you know maybe you see like someone pull the base pull the base out throw the base like they'll pull third base out of the dirt we'll toss that around there's a kill to do to 149 but bubblegum it's like let me go grab the thing a bubblegum in a non-celebration situation and throw it all over home plate it's gonna take forever to pick up right it's George Springer to 99 yeah I would love to do that macular basketball drew eight full spots I think we got a couple fillers we got to do there too there a couple breaks where we give away some spots in that particular break yeah if you look at that mosaic hobby pack number 53 10 spots being given away that a macular basketball break but if those full spots move we can cancel one of those fillers to pretty easily oh I thought there were gonna see some ink O'Neill Cruz Kevin with a piece of his jersey O'Neill Cruz and we got some Alexi Forexie and Rexus he has the Rexus Rangers Philip Welman was the greatest rejection of all time is that the minor league coach who would do this whole like a bit of theatrics maybe maybe he does some crawls on the ground throws throws a fake grenade the minor league coach I think of the Mississippi Braves I was gonna say I think he's in the Braves organization he's got a few different videos of that kind of few different instances all right we got some drew Ellis right here drew Ellis piece of his jersey for Jerry and the snakes diamond backs are still playing yet they're in the top of the knife looks like the Tigers are down to their last out they're in Arizona that's a 250 we got a Taylor walls jersey and autograph Tyler with Tampa gets Taylor 65 out of 2 99 yeah drew members that that that coach to just going nuts the classic Matt Olson A's edition 22 out of 25 cracked ice that's Kyle with the A's another Matt Olson to 199 this time we'll have our sorting and shipping team top load all of those before they get sorted and shipped out to you there's Juan yepes for the Cardinals Richard with the Redbirds Josiah Gray having a really nice season Patrick with the Nationals gets the Josiah Gray rookie silver Premier level so we've got some gold peeking out down there we got Angel Zerpa jersey and autograph for the Royals and that will be for Brett in Kansas City 186 out of 1 at 99 and some gold Fran Milray is 6 out of 10 nice low number for the Guardians Donald all right halfway through this full case break it's a final in Arizona Diamondbacks win 11-7 so the only game remaining right now this is the national game on ESPN Dodgers at Braves scoreless in the top of the third next box good luck win some zebra right here Ryan Vellad zebra print rookie for Colorado that's going to go to Donald a short print here read Detmer silver he's got a he's got a no-hitter under his belt but I think he got option to the minors work some things out yeah how did you miss that Rex come on Rex is Alex Bregman little color match orange parallel 10 out of 10 although isn't gold usually anyway I don't go to the Astros Michael got red Kyle Hendricks 20 out of 199 for Joshua and the Cubs Peter Lanzo 87 out of 149 Stephen Y with the Metropolitan 10 we got a 17 out of 25 cracked ice sparks drew Ellis autograph for the snakes Jerry with the Diamondbacks look at the box score does he I don't know if he gets regular playing time I don't think he's no did not play today but there's drew Ellis cracked ice always looks really cool Chaz McCormick 66 out of 250 sounds like a name sounds like a country club tight news chose 66 out of 250 that's another Astro for Michael behind Ozzie Smith is Jaren Duran Duran Jersey and autograph Josh with the Red Sox 009 out of 299 behind Ty France is Seth beer beer that relic going to Jerry and the snakes Seth beer played 22 out of 250 next box Corey what's up which break has been sitting the longest that's still available and I'll take a look at the site but I think that noir basketball has been up for a little bit the mystery crate yeah I'm sure I'm sure the the people involved in those straggling greats would appreciate that Corey but you know to do that just get what get whatever you want to get with that break credit whatever makes you happy whatever you feel like doing next box good luck oh we got a wand yep it sparks autograph cardinals that'll be for Richard to 199 on that one 34 out of 250 map rash piece of his jersey Patrick was Seattle Babe Ruth and a Marcus Simeon 34 out of 50 concourse for Rex and the Rex's Rangers wander from girl and there's a Patrick Mazzica two-color jersey and autograph for the Metropolitan that's going to go to Stephen your muller 67 out of 199 Deval put one off the wall will you Dennis 13 out of 149 Oliver and the brew crew and two out of 25 Ryan Vellad it's a nice patch there cracked ice parallel heavier card stock two out of 25 Donald with the Rockies Colton long 166 out of 199 for the brew crew I think he's making his way back off the aisle Oliver next box so plenty of boxes to go good luck everybody got another case in the store jaskies case breaks dot com pick your team five this is currently number four there's max freed he's on the ESPN broadcast right now there is Reese Nair Reese Nair for the Padres that's gonna go to Stephen Y 72 out of 99 so Tony sparks silver teammate Jared Walsh Reed Detmers to 199 we got some moon shots glaver day it is high it is far it is out of here like a good glaver Torres is there nine six out of 98 that is Yankees that's for Joshua and there's Brendan McKay piece of the jersey 65 out of 250 Tyler and Tampa nice and Fuego O'Neill Cruz he has been in Fuego nice Logan congrats it's not bad at all oh nice you're gonna have to you're gonna have to report back Rex and see you guys tell us what prospects you see out there that we've seen in the products here 64 out of 99 Luis Castillo green and a Matt Manning 27 out of 75 Jersey and autograph Detroit Joshua with the tigers tiger uppercut 27 out of 75 there's Aaron Ashby 75 out of 149 for Milwaukee three boxes to go our first break of the day thanks for making it part of your Sunday I see about about a dozen orders coming in so we've got a other flurry of orders happening so go to Jasper's case breaks calm keep the momentum going keep it out for any fillers that might be attaching any of the brakes keep that in mind too Kyle Muller for Atlanta Nestor with the Braves Anthony Rendon Josh Lowe piece of his jersey for Tyler and the Rays Trevor story still Rockies edition year 13 out of 149 that's right the Padres affiliates you've got Robert Hassel in there there's William Demis to 50 and they're playing the A's high a team so who's on do we know anybody on there that's that we've seen in the hobby to William Demis for Oliver and the brew crew that's the 50 all over Jacob de Grom to 199 that is for Steven Yarmola and the Metropolitan's behind to T's junior is Nate Pearson Jersey and autograph for the Bluebirds mark with Toronto 48 out of 199 and one more thing here we've got Lars a new bar Jersey autograph that sounds like it sounds like a new bar it should be something you could you could get at a convenience store right oh Rex go go grab me a new bar while you're in there 295 out of 299 like a like a nutritious bar I think he really has something there hey I'm Lars new bar from your st. Louis baseball team maybe they don't have the license to use the same listening hey I'm Lars new bar from your st. Louis baseball team when I need a quick snack I grabbed a new bar a delicious and healthy treat for anyone on the go yeah maybe a catchy jingle eat a new bar noot noot noot noot yeah noot bars noot noot noot noot noot yeah onward second to last box good luck everybody and behind John is a yitty cap youth explosion autograph pow that'll be for Dennis and the fish 49 out of 299 and the boss sparks autograph Shane buzz real-time what's going on is just was gonna be intending the sports college sports like the next one November I don't think so maybe I don't know 003 out of 199 let's see how Atlantic City goes at the end of July and then we'll see if we make another road trip to Chicago if we do might just be more of a smaller I think more of a smaller operation that'll go out Chicago maybe might just be Nick just going to go on on a buying spree or something like that but not that I know of there's so Tony Sandlin for the red legs that'll be for Dennis 193 out of 250 Charlie Morton 93 out of 99 lime green after wisdom to 199 he could have caught sold or some on a bad day it happens and Hans Krause he's of his Jersey rookie Jersey for the Phillies Ricky 183 out of 250 final box yeah I mean that that's a possibility Rex I mean realistically Jason I will still probably lock down the prime time hours and then if Chris could do like the morning or a late night that could be a possibility if if the numbers say that that's gonna work or he'll just be a very good move very good backup we never really had a proper backup so that'll be useful as well so we don't know he'll have time to fill in during the national because he's not going to the national I don't think he is P Rose nice the hit King 50 out of 65 that's for Dennis and the Reds so I think he'll definitely get some time while we're away at the national to break live from here because I think we'll probably be wrapped up on the East Coast so there'll be some hours on the West Coast that he could fill in to 199 kind of a kind of a super utility guy Rex is what we need I think he's gonna fill that role for now go from there to 149 Miguel Cabrera there's John Hesley but a pretty presumptive of Chris Rex to start setting schedules it's 80 out of 99 Brett Myers of that one Marcus Strowman for Chicago Joshua 21 out of 250 for the Cubs Eli Morgan piece of the Jersey Donald with the Guardians there's Aaron Judge moon shots silver and an Andrew McCutcheon tie-dye 16 out of 20 that is for the Phillies Ricky with the fighting Phyllis and there you go ladies and gentlemen that was pick your team number four from Jasper's case race.com no randomizers I got to do here so a quick little recap from the most recent poll to the earliest poll thanks everybody for getting in really appreciate it pick your team five in the store right now that was Labor Torres and I think we're about halfway there on that break already we may be able to get away with it without a filler nice ricella Glesius that's it that was out of 10 more tie-dye crack ice wander relic and we had a really nice for the angels a show you a tiny color wheel a super short print really nice part of the break there you go gang that was 2022 Panini select baseball pick your team number four from jasky's case breaks calm I'm Joe I'll see you next time for the next one bye bye


the 40 or T podcast women and people of backgrounds that are not white I think are more likely to be misdiagnosed yeah yeah well I need to be misdiagnosed and undiagnosed I definitely agree with you and being Asian myself I'm the woman and I yeah I agree I think it's also because women are much better at masking or I don't know if they're better they just feel like they should mask I don't know because I definitely did mask a lot in my youth if I look back because I didn't know how I was supposed to act I had no clue so I used to just pick up and other people's behaviors and tone of voice and the way that they would interact so that I could fit in and I actually think that is another part of like why autistic people are more prone to mental health conditions because we're like expected to fit into like this mold and like everyone else and I always like think of it and describe it as like being neurodivergent in a world that's like designed for neurotypicals so it's really just I don't know how we're supposed to be comfortable enough to be ourselves in a place that doesn't make us feel able to be so yeah and it is quite it's quite a protective thing isn't it because you know that there are situations particularly in secondary school or high school over in the US that present a lot of real world dangers or real world stresses like bullying and you know if you kind of stick out and people notice that and people sort of take advantage of you perhaps not understanding like the higher cognitive like social situations that are going on then they do take advantage of you so there is like that aspect of it even in the workplace I would say I know for me I didn't really use to mask very much but I definitely used to have some like mirroring like behaviors so I there'd been lots of situations when I was younger and I was introduced to someone from like a different part of the UK like Scotland and I'd start just naturally mimicking their accent and obviously they were like what's happening there and the parents are like looking and asking why is why is your child doing this for me it was it was a way of relating to that person making them feel like that they're safer to be around me but I understand like looking back on it that it's not ideal and to be honest even within my podcast if you kind of look back at the different guests that I have on the way that I interact with people the way that I speak like the tonality of my voice tends to very much mimic the person that I'm talking to and it's not like a natural process it's not like I'm thinking right I need to do this and this it's just kind of like a learnt thing I don't know it's it's interesting isn't it and masking I think just in general can have some really bad effects on your identity as a person it can feel very hard to feel like you being genuine it can take a really big toll on your like overall energy can really make you look more anxious and aware and paranoid in social situations it's something that I only really started to do when I was in my early 20s I started to like realize that the people around me they were having much better time in terms of making friends forming groups at university and also finding a partner and those things were areas of my life that I wanted to work on quite a lot at that age and it started to like mimic and mask and copy people online who seem to have that life to them to have that aspect of their personality to make those friends but when I did it always just felt very false and it didn't feel like I was connecting deeply with other people which I think is another really big aspect of mental health that social element I agree with you completely and I definitely personally experienced this like feeling of I didn't know who I was and I didn't supposed to be so I used to constantly like wonder what my identity was and I think that identity is like always evolving anyway but there is definitely some parts of yourself that are more solid and I just didn't know because I was constantly presenting as typical I guess yeah yeah like passing passing as neurotypical yeah and I was really good at it but now and it was so tiring it was so tiring I used to be exhausted after the end of the day like after school in secondary school and and then also in the workplace as well like you mentioned and I experienced a lot of stigma and in the workplace which made me feel really unsafe because the reasonable adjustments that were supposed to be put in place weren't put in place instead I was just yeah instead I was meant to just those are like bare bones as well anyway so I was really like worried and anxious and stressed every time I went to work but I've been trying to educate the workplace and on autism and neurodivergence so that they can be more understanding and accommodating with people's needs


What's going on, everyone? Sam here with late in sports card, dripping 23 tops, finest baseball hobby, eight box case break, number 87, pick your team style. Read off the list of our names and our teams. Got Brandon H with the Reds, Brandon S. Tigers, Brian L. Cubs, CJD with the Angels and Nats, Dave E. Rockies, Lujays, Gail L. Yankees, Jason O. Redsox, Johnny H. Dodgers, Metz, Rangers Athletics, Joseph K. with the Rays, Joseph S. Guardians, Joshua B. Brewers, Matt L. with the Mariners, Michael B. Padres, Michael G. Orioles, Ron R. Astros, Marlins, Twins, Phillies, and Pirates. Ryan L. with the White Sox, Scott F. Royal, Scott E. Diamondbacks, Taylor B. Cardinals, Terry F. Braves, and Giants. David F. with a spot in stadium club. Let's get that sold out before we're done breaking here this morning. That'd be awesome, everybody. I know Forrest would appreciate that. If you like soccer, Forrest is the guy for soccer here. Forrest and Kyle, for sure. They know their footy. Jordan Walker Rookie. That's the 300, Ezekiel Duran, Trout, and Aaron Judd. You can just do golds and lower for color on these. Purple Francisco Alvarez, the 250 for the Metz. Nice one there. Kodaisenga Rookie and Acunha. Volpi Rookie, Pasquantino Refractor Rookie, Vado and Seah. Refractor Dylan Carlson, extended based, card number 122 for the Cardinals. Headliners, Vladdy, Kodaisenga, and a Moreno. Last pack of mini box one. Refractor Vladdy, that is Carlos Perez. Refractor Rookie Otto for the White Sox. Congrats, Chicago. Manny Machado and a Michael Conforto. Piazza. Two Vladdies. Let's go Dave, congrats, dude. Refractor Bieber, Nolan Gorman Rookie. Vladdy's got autos in this, so I'm not mistaken. Maybe not, might be pristine. Headliners, Mariana. Definitely pristine. Yeah, no, 100% he's in pristine. For sure he's got multiple sets in pristine. I don't know if he's in this, though. McClanahan to 199. Gunner Henderson Rookie. I'll see it super in this case. Or Treasure Chest. That's what I was gonna say. That'd be dope. Hobby Baez Refractor. Alex Kahl Refractor Rookie Autograph. That is going to the Rangers, right? No, Nationals, just getting Nationals and base. Oh, he does, oh good. And Clemens has a Blue Jay Auto, wow. Is Clemens, is that a Moments? Christian Yellowch Headliners? Or does he have like Headliners Auto? He might have a Headliners Auto. No, Randy Johnson was the Headliners Auto. Free Mini-Diamonds, Michael Toglio Rookie to 125. Now, see a Vladdy or a Clemens Auto for Dave. That'd be sweet. Call the vibe after that. Oh, that's right. Cal Mitchell Refractor Rookie. That is Riley Green. I did pull one of those, actually. I did pull one of those, actually. That it was like a 90-something Clemens. Morrell, World's Finest, Goldschmidt. Okay, some of these. That is a Headliners Jeter Refractor Rookie Auto, Brian Servin. Let's go into the Rockies. There's more spots coming in again, guys. Joey Manessus, thank you all. Kate Cavali, Simeon Woods Richardson. A Josh Young. Light Blue, Max Scherzer to 300. Bryce Harper and Juan Soto. Nice, they got the Rockies, perfect. Stop, JT. New records with errors hold value, destroy the value. Depends on the error. What's the error mystery? Old Michael Confort of the 50 for the Giants. True, if it's Pokemon, then it skyrockets it. Depends on the error mystery. Heavily depends on the error, Adley Rookie. Refractor Yoshida, nice one there. Soavar in base. Headliners Griffey, Fujinami and Walda Chuck. Yoshida Rookie. Rookie's Gorman, the Shet. Just seeing it says Rhys Hoskins card number. That's wild. Ooh, we got a red. I don't know, to be honest. I don't know what's something like that, mystery. Jonathan Aranda, we got a red. Bubba Thompson, Rookie Auto, five of five. That'll be going to the Rangers. Yeah, that is a fire color match with the Rangers alternate. That looks good, man. Grats, Texas. Wheeler and Logan Webb. Headliners Mookie Betts, Corbin Carroll Rookie and Francisco Alvarez. Again, you've got Mr. Forrest down to two to go on the first stadium club break, everybody. Two to go. Let's get that sold out. Forrest, again, starting at five p.m. Again, if you like someone who knows how the hell to break soccer, it's gonna be that guy. Yeah. It is gonna be that guy right there. Again, there is a 10% off coupon. That is floating around as well if you are subscribed to the SMS text. Definitely check that on out. And if you're not opted in already, I would opt in for sure. Really, basically, the big advantage is is it sends you a text when you check out with us. Basically, giving you your order number so it's an extra layer of protection. Okay, something happens to 175, man, you have your order number that's easy to find, Gunnar Henderson. As well as, like today, it sends you frequent coupons. Could be 10% off, could be X amount of dollars off, baby. Refractor, Lennon Sosa. See, the SMS is good. I'm subbed into it. I know that. Francisco Lindor, refractor. Also, if it's like a big release day or something you might not be aware of, it'll be like, hey, release day breaks for blah, blah, blah product with LSE. Nolan Arnotto, Cannon Smith and Jigba, rookie auto for the pirates. Nice one there. Pittsburgh. That's $0.7 for the Rangers. Yeah, do you have a stud? That's insane. Shohei Refractor. He's nasty. You know who else is disgusting? Freakin' Justin Steele, dude. Yeah, Steele, yeah. He is like, Alvarez to 150, nice one there for the Mets on the color match. He is like potential like, Saiyong candidate. Yeah, Steele is, was a Steele for the Cubs. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Green Lava as Waldo Cabrera for the Inks, rookie to 99. Yeah, first notice on Almanac. It's a very good point, Chris. Rookie bets. If you are an Almanac fan here, we text when Almanacs go live. Ah, no. I'm not either now that you're here, Dean. What happened, Dean? There's Albert Pujols. I think Dean's just a bot. We've got a Brandon Crawford at 250. Beau Naylor to 99. Green Wave, auto. Congrats, Guardians. Nice one there, Guardians. Anthony with the Red Sox and Pristine tonight. Aaron Kay with two in Star Wars Six series. That's at nine to go, everybody. Star Wars Six series, thank you all. Forrest is gonna be like bouncing around the room. Michael Toglia, refractor rookie. I'm gonna text him that right now and see what he says. Headliners Ichiro, I'm gonna text Forrest right now Star Wars Six series at nine. Yeah, Six series is cool, man. Six series is cool. Some of the big, big character names in there is awesome too. There's some really big names. We also have that Galaxy random letter style tonight as well. Those have been Fire, Sammy Sosa, Nolan Gorman at 250. Josh Young Rookie, Brandon Crawford, refractor. Harper in one, Soto. Headliners Nolan Ryan, Green, Joey Manessis. Going to the Nationals, congrats, Washington. Nice one there to 99, Carlos Correa, Yoshida Rookie, Michael Harris and Nick Prado. There's a refractor Oswald Paraza Rookie, Mitchell and Brian Bale. Shohei Headliners, Gorman and J. Rod Rookie. Gunnar Henderson Rookie, Machado and Forta. There's refractor Langler's Rookie, base and base. Hoppy, Headliners Randy Johnson, Blue, Cody Clemens. Rookie Auto 150, two numbered autos in this box. Going to the Phillies, congrats Philadelphia. Roger Floyd. What's up? Roger Floyd, Roger Clemens. Oh, is there a Headliners? No, I'm saying that's the warrior there, that's his son. Is it really? Yeah. I did not know that. Adley Rushman, purple to 250, Zach Wheeler. I did not know that. I did not know that. If that's the case, this guy could be lying to me. If I am, then just give me your red card. After a get rich, I hope you're wrong. Nice. I didn't even know that.  That was like way. Yoshida Rookie, Headliners Harper. I didn't realize that until right now. I did not know that. That's cool. Nice. Dave with a pristine random team spot. Thank you Dave. Two Zach Wheeler to 150 and a Mark Appel refractor Rookie Otto for the Phillies. Johnny H with some select and spectra mosaic mixers. John with a pristine random spot. Thank you John. Thank you Justin. Alex Bregman. Or Johnny, not Justin. Johnny, thank you Johnny. Vulpie, Headliners Yellich and Bo Nailer. Rookie is Matthew Libertor, Moreno and Kodaisenga. Other cosmic spots coming in from Daniel taking up a bunch of good teams. Thank you Daniel. Including the D-Backs and the Yankees. There's a Kodaisenga refractor Rookie. And I'll be the show legend. Dude, I am gonna smoke you in golf today. That's all I know. There's a Vladimir Carrero, Jr. We're gonna be smoking on the Tampa and Moe pack. I'm gonna be smoking. I don't know man. You guys gonna have to come out and show out. Dude, me and Jake are gonna be absolutely dialed today. Megan with a spot. Thank you Megan and pristine. Me and Jake are gonna be so dialed. It's gonna be kind of scary. There's Headliners, Adrian Beltray, Hunter Green and Oscar Gonzalez. There's Nolan Gorman.  I'm carrying you. There's gonna be Nick Prado. We've got Buddy Kennedy refractor Rookie Otto. It's so funny Corbin Carroll on Wednesday, whenever Sean Zier and Donnie and Kyle over there showing up like that obviously always trolls. It was so funny last week when you were in chat. It just goes Dylan equals trash. There's Boba Shetza, 199. That's strange. Oh, it was so funny.  And he goes Dylan equals trash. 300 JJ Blede. Manassas and Yelich. Dude, what the hell? You got me a paper towel real quick. Hold on, sorry. I don't know what that is. That's something from something. It's gonna have Dylan run me a paper towel and so I don't ruin the surfaces here. Yeah, probably. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I do not know what that is. What are we doing here? What are we doing? What are we doing? That's smudged by something. I don't know what that was. It was weird. Now we're good. Continue on here. Jayrod refractor Alvarez and Wheeler. Three to go everybody. Volpe, Miguel Vargas to 300. Kodaisenga and Alex Bregman. Wander, Moments, Ryan Howard Otto for the Phillies. Nice one there. God, I love these Moments autos, dude. They're so dope. Headliners Ripken, Judge and Machado. There's to 3175, Aaron Judge. I knew he was gonna be super happy. Yeah, Forrest is amped right now, everybody. Let's go, do you like to see it? Forrest is amped, Tati's refractor, Tovar and Jayran. Yeah, I agree on that, Dave. The WWE top stuff look really good. Ohapi, headliners Winfield and base. Get like the Supers and stuff too, which looked so good. Adlerookie, Shintaro Fujinami to 199. As Waldo Cabrera refractor, Stefanik Rookie Otto for the Marlins. The Angels, nice one there. Congrats, L.A. Clannahan, Masataka Yoshida. There's a Mookie Betz one of 125 for the Dodgers. Green Minidimends, Wheeler and Webb. Headliners Rafi, Corbin Carroll and Alvarez Rookie. Jordon refractor, Asen base, Pascantino Rookie, Riley Green and Oscar Gonzalez. Two to go, everybody. Two to go. Here is your link again to Forrest's first break. Stadium Club, UEFA Chrome, two left. Two to go. Stuff is looted. Who's out there? Not like a lot. Yeah, yep, yep. Confirmed, Orange Rookie Gunner Henderson, 12 of 25. Here we go. Dude, the color match on that is disgusting. Congrats, Baltimore, nice one there.  Orioles will be going to, if I can find them. Michael G, let's go Michael, congrats buddy. Huge hit on that one, we'll get that into a mag, that's sweet. Here at Mitchell and Shay Langlears. Got an Orange Wave now too. Orange Wave Rookie Auto. Joy Vado, Zekele Duran. Nice for the Rangers to 25, congrats. There you go, Texas. Very nice one there. Gorman and J-Rod. There's the 250, Blue Teal Vapor. J-Rod, base and base. That's pretty sick. That was a good box right there, a good many box. Headliners, Moe, Gunner Rookie and Contreras. That was a really good many box. Silly good many box. Bonela Refractor Rookie and a Green Lava for Nandotatis Jr. to 99, not bad. That'll also work for the Padres and base. Mookie Pets World's Finest. Refractor of Wilson Contreras, Gunner Rookie, Wilson Contreras again. That is a Green to 99, Oscar Colas and Joy Maneses Refractor Rookie Auto for the Nationals. Nationals did pretty well actually. Two Maneses autos in and Alex Call, so not bad there for like a $40 team. Just look at him just wandering around over there. Just no thoughts, absolutely wandering around. Unreal, dude, unreal. Akunya Headliners. Jeez, dude. What are we doing? Gunner Henderson Refractor Rookie. Is anybody working out there? God. That's another box. That's another box. Purple, Logan Webb to 250, base and base. Joe's out there, that's another box. Rice, then another box. Jay, another box. Oh, dude. We are legitimately saved by the fact they're not here. This business is saved by the fact that Moe and Guthridge Jaco 3 are not here today. They were here, this place almost collapsed. Exactly, Dave. Literally. The GMDC. That's what I'm saying, Kyle, just sprinkle, let's get them going out there. There's Freddie Freedman to 75, Rose Gold. I'll go out there real quick. Kintsukaroi of Peter Lanzo, rivalries, and Freddie Freedman. I'll go crack some heads out there. Some rising troops out there. Honestly. Then your dad showed up today too, Akunya Refractor. There's Cody Clemens again. Refractor Rookie Otto, nice one there for the Phills. Manessas and Yellich, did you get the game, Kyle, or no? Yeah, Kyle, download it if you can.  I'll be on later. Headliners Tatsis, Josh Young Rookie. I'm so pissed, dude. I don't come in till law two tomorrow, but I have people coming to take care of bugs in my house. Traits are in 8 a.m. Oh, jeez. So pissed. I haven't been out in a year or two. Like 2 a.m. Refractor Sazuki, I've been just running it, dude. We're running on straight freaking caffeine tomorrow. Juan Soto and Michael Harris Rookie. All right, last box. Good luck, everybody. Oh, my God.  Come on, man. I don't know if we can still play. Purple, Shane McClanahan. That is a rookie, Mark Viento, screen wave Otto to 99. We're gonna mess everything up. Kyle, you can look, though, it's PGA 2K. 23, right? Yeah, PGA Tour 2K, 23. It's got Tiger on the coffee. Jordan Walker, Gabriel Moreno, Refractor.   Nice, Christopher Morel. Second auto in this box. Rookie's green wave Otto for the Cubs. Congrats, Cubs. There are no hyping up that. Okay, you're gonna come up on the first tee and shank it way right. There's headliners, Griffey, and then Bofa's gonna come up and choke. And then me and Jake are gonna be in your head from the start of the game. There's Refractor Conforto. We're just gonna, we gotta get Jake dialed. We just gotta get in your head. That's it. Yoshida to 100, Alex Pregman. Nice one there for the Astros, Corbin Carroll, and Alvarez. All right, quick recap, everybody. Gold Conforto to 50. We had Otto's Moments, Ryan Howard, Cody Clemens, Michael Stefanik, Joey Meneses, Cannon Smith and Jigba, Brian Servin, Buddy Kennedy, Carlos Perez, Mark Appel, Alex Kahl. Blue to 150, Cody Clemens. Greens, we had Mark Vientos. These are 99, Christopher Morel, Bo Nailer, and Joey Meneses. Orange to 25, Ezekiel Doran. Red to five, Bubba Thompson, and an orange gunner to 25 for the Orioles. I'll do it for the break, everybody. Thanks again for the fill. Up next is Mosaic.


Great Science in 10 Minutes – NASA's Sounding Rockets Presented by Science at NASA The spectacle of a mammoth rocket breaking the surly bonds of Earth takes our breath away. Equally amazing are the secrets revealed to us by science missions these rockets have launched. And NASA puts careful thought into what kind of mission will best achieve that science. Sometimes a large multi-instrumented mission on a giant rocket is the best way to go. But other missions are better suited to a smaller, less expensive rocket as the key to getting a quick answer to a tightly focused science question. Like a sounding rocket. A sounding rocket is an instrument carrying rocket designed for research, such as taking measurements and performing scientific experiments during a suborbital flight. Christina Lynch is a professor of physics at Dartmouth College. So a sounding rocket experiment can be designed in six months from proposal acceptance through data analysis. A mission can be done in one to three years as opposed to many more years for a typical satellite mission. The trade-off is that you only get ten minutes in space. But as my colleagues in the sounding rocket community say, it's a great ten minutes. Sounding rockets afford a certain amount of flexibility. Because they can be launched from temporary sites all over the world, sounding rockets can be used for remote field studies. They can also be used to develop and test new scientific instrumentation for use in more costly, longer duration orbital missions. And because of their low cost and short lead time, sounding rocket missions are perfect for use by university graduate students, particularly to gather data for PhD dissertations. Sounding rockets are especially well suited for studying areas of Earth's upper atmosphere inaccessible by orbital missions, providing the only way to directly sample the lower portion of near-Earth space with scientific probes. Furthermore, they are ideally suited to position an experiment for an up-close look at auroras, beautiful green curtains of light that sometimes dance across the night sky. While auroras can be wondrous to behold, they are sparked by geomagnetic storms with potential side effects, such as satellite malfunctions and power outages. Telecommunications, air traffic, power grids, and global positioning system signals are vulnerable. So understanding this layer of near-Earth space is vital. Sounding rockets are used to get above the part of the Earth's atmosphere where we live and breathe. Above 60 miles or 100 kilometers, the atmosphere includes an electrically charged gas where charged particles flit around, collide, respond to magnetic and electric fields, and produce the aurora. These northern and southern lights appear flame-like, but the movement looks slower than that of a flame, and their structure can be more orderly. We want to understand this movement and structure. Is the movement fast or slow? Why and where is it going? Lynch is working on a sounding rocket mission that could provide some answers. Isenglas, short for ionospheric structuring in situ and ground-based low-altitude studies. Launched on March 2nd and is one of about 20 sounding rockets that NASA will be launching in 2017. Isenglas deployed an array of payloads launched by a single rocket to take measurements at several locations in an aurora simultaneously. Understanding what the aurora's visual patterns signify within the aurora itself can serve as an analog to help scientists understand what's happening farther out, even extending this information to auroras on other planets. All it takes is a great 10 minutes. For more news about science in and around Earth's atmosphere, stay tuned to science.nasa.gov.


It's still the breakfast on Plus TV Africa and we've got to know that you're still there and watching us. And right now we're going to look at the fact that lawmakers are pushing for 32 more federal universities, 32. That's almost like the same number of states that we have in our country. We have management consultants, international development advisor for Lagos State in the person of Uludari Akilaja joining us this morning. Good morning and welcome to the program. Good morning to you. We have so many universities that ASU and Conwa are complaining that they are underfunded. Now the lawmakers want 32 more. Do you think this is a solution to our educational problem or it is going to worsen? So good. I had the new idea and I wondered what the intention was. But I've been around development for a while and I understand. So what is happening is that we're solving a problem which we're trying to build on a faulty foundation. So what is happening is that the universities are not sufficient to handle the number of young people that finish in a command of Secondary School. That's a problem. But they are coming to look at other areas of the challenge which includes the ones we already have, how functional are they? That's the question they should be asking. Instead of building more universities. I understand we need more universities but this is not the time for more universities.  But this is the truth. If you look at those universities you will find out that most of the lawmakers want those universities situated in their constituencies. Okay. I have some statistics here. So as of right now Nigeria has a total of 52 federal universities and 32 more will make it 84. However right now in Nigeria we have about 514 universities some of which are private universities at 262. We have state universities at 147. We have federal universities at 52. Okay 63 states 147 private universities which sums up at 262. Now we have colleges of health which is 70 and private 17. The total number is 514. Now if we add another 32 it will be 546 universities in Nigeria. Do we need that much universities? Oh yes we do with respect to our population. If you go to nations that are smaller they have much more universities. So like I said I'm not sure the challenge is the number of universities but the challenge is the timing and the design of our already existing educational system. So our already existing educational system does not need more universities as it were with this current design. If we don't adjust that design make universities more productive and more autonomous then we will just be bringing more universities that go through the same already existing funnel that is dysfunctional. So this is the truth. If we don't properly understand what our challenges are we will not be able to come up with good solutions. So the challenge is okay we need more universities but can you make the already universities more functional? So we solve a problem one point at a time, one point at a time. I'm not just trying to rush through our prescriptions the truth the universities are not sufficient but this is not the right time to add more universities. Let's make the ones we already have very functional and productive before we think of adding more universities. Okay we're talking about the federal universities here and it also relates to the educational system as it is. Children who come out from secondary schools like you mentioned earlier don't always need to go to a federal university but they need to go to a university and you've said that the number in Nigeria is so much that 500 and something is not even sufficient. Now trying to find a solution to accommodate all the people that graduate from secondary school will it be your advice that if the federal government cannot fund the existing ones they should not have universities but they should make it easier for people who want to establish the private sector to come into the educational system and establish more universities. Do you think that will be part of the solution to the educational problem or infrastructural problem that we have in the educational system? Well based off data I'll say this you allow more people to drive the private institutions because if you look at you already available private universities and the solution it is given okay some private universities are already in the top ten universities in Nigeria early solving or actually a part of the the solution so yes allowing more private universities now many years ago not many years in 2018 here we've worked on some projects to bring in and in private university and I must tell you the requirements are incredulous I made my own use of the word they are incredulous a particular number of in-carriage of land the amount of money you must have so it's actually difficult for private institutions to get it and I understand because sometimes enrollment in universities is not the same as when you did get sent down or in secondary school it's much more than that the investment is massive and you will require a bit more standardization so you don't allow every company to get into space but I think it's too complex and they should try to minimize the requirements so they can allow more private institutions enter into it I need to add this also and that is that universities are really set up because of this bias of the environment we're in where everybody wants to go to university now that's a discussion for another day but I think we also need to start making our monotechnics and monotechnics also while start making them more effective start making them also have a capacity to train and raise people that will be competent individuals in the society I know that's a different argument we're having but we need to start looking at that so the pressure is not always on universities universities universities what's happening to our federal college of technology what's happening to our monotechnics and what's happening to all of that those two must be able to be able to help us manage the competition we're taking all right talking about investment in these universities we just the president is going to be presenting the 2024 budget tomorrow however in that budget we have a loan of one billion now if you're saying we have to create more universities isn't that going to take a chunk of the loans that we're getting so now this argument has been common that's been constantly here if if only we can reduce the amount of wasteages and the things we're wasting money on and the fact that investment into the things that really really matter in our environment I understand that maybe we were not making as much money as we should be making but the truth is the money we even have available we are not properly distributing this into the required places that it is meant to go into so I think one of the things we must concentrate on is redistributing what we already have if you look at the way we waste some point wastage taking place you will know that if we redirect some of our investment I think some of these universities will become a bit more buoyant and a bit more more more more self-sustaining because if you look at it for education education is not cheap you need investment into education the learning environment how to properly read great lectures and teachers making it an environment of research and development meets a lot of investment and until we start to think of how we can make it either self-sustaining or pumping investment into it by blocking wasteages and redirecting money into the places that matter we will just keep prolonging the days that we will have and a better point of chaos at some point all right so according to you you've said we need these universities we need more universities but here's my thought do you think the lawmakers should be talking about more universities how about these students that go to these universities and they come out without jobs shouldn't we be looking at job creation instead of more universities because now you're creating more universities more students are going into this school so imagine the influx of students that go on a yearly basis let's peg it at maybe 10 million now you're creating 32 more universities let's say that would that would now make it about 15 million they come out both for their youth service and then there are no jobs shouldn't the lawmakers be looking at creating jobs for these students then creating more universities at this time i agree with you and that's what i agree i agree with you and that's what i said it's a function of timing well the truth is most of our universities are already massively congested so if you go to certain universities the classes are maybe the 250 to 1 125 to 1 which did not even suit the national standards okay so more universities are not necessarily mean more people it might just mean the redistribution of people that already exist in these universities but i agree with you that what we should be having conversations about it's not even just job creation that's even at the end of the forum conversations which we have been is even curriculum content what are these people doing in the universities what kind of courses are we now designing at universities most of these courses are absolutely also some schools you can't believe that in ideal universities we're not even looking at maybe fintech or title media you know or things that are happening okay so curriculum is a very important part of we're not even looking at that so that's why i mentioned earlier that the problem is not and it's basic design thinking you are looking you are trying to solve a problem that you should put off till later now and there are many reasons behind that further universities being pushed at this point like i said if you look at those further universities most of them are domiciled in certain constituencies so for most people it's really like a constituency project and they're not thinking about the long-term effect of most of this decision so i agree with you that we should be looking at curriculum we should be looking at how do we drive internships we should be looking at what are these children learning where we are able to go to you know just i think we should be looking at now and i i agree with you but that doesn't get the fact that we need more universities problem is timing and implementation strategy okay well you said the first thing is to look at the ones that are already existing and see how it can be funded better do you think with improved infrastructure within the universities that we have we can take more students and have better quality education so certain universities were built for setting capacity and this is this is this is this is what this is what what what long-term thinking does now if more investment is made obviously there will be more infrastructure so there can be a level of improved there can be some improved level of learning in these universities okay lecturers more quality lecturers lecturers are probably excited with their jobs we have more more equipment to learn more research is being done then we can then because the problems don't stop you keep by trading you keep you keep moving from one level to another as you solve one another opens up so you see you keep moving from one level to another because when you are done building infrastructure in this particular university another thing can be a function of space okay can you can this university handle the number that come in so you set up more to be you know so it's it's a continuum you see and that's why it's design thinking we keep by trading from level to level so we can just see if you do this do so all the problems at this instance I will no longer have problems but I agree with you that if you develop infrastructure as of today look at the current universities we have change and keep having on this work on the curriculum of the existing universities to position children for the 21st century and its development and advancement then you can start talking about universities another another thought that I have is in yesterday's papers it is said that a lot of lecturers are moving abroad so what are the resources we have for people who are supposed to give knowledge to these students yeah so this reverential issue it's of course it's a long conversation with a function of labor function of what the standard salaries of federal government workers are you see so that's that's that's you see that's why I said there's there's a multi-level layer to these conversations what I think one of the things that's important is that lecturers need to start having a sense of fulfillment okay with the and they do all right the reason why they go to western world for instance and you see if you do a comparative analysis academicians in the western world will tell you that in comparative analysis to all that jobs they are still being paid low okay so but the difference is they have a social system okay they can get a house with mortgage for instance they can buy a car mortgage they can you know so there are all that things that can serve as pushing effects okay around them which we don't have in this country the lecturer is going to go to the same casual as you who is in private sector the lecturer is going to have to pay his rent for one year stretch okay with the the conditions are the same for everybody there's no there's no sort of social system you know that is creating a pushing effect for these lecturers in spite of their deliberation so you see you will always have that challenge and that's what is thinking the fly so people like even most of the lectures were ever relocated some of them are not even continuing in academics they just want to be out of the prayer when they can if you they can build a future for themselves so I think that's that's the most important Nigeria needs to start developing a social that has sort of system for people not in setting fields of course everybody have to benefit from it of course during the studio now imagine if you could buy your house and pay about one year or two years to get a pick up that'd be amazing okay well instead of building new universities could it be something to be considered that the existing ones if they are put in order as it is they have more satellite campuses that will take more students will that be a good proposal now so the challenge with satellite campuses you know we used to have satellite campuses in Nigeria and the challenge was actually a maintenance standard you know it's like franchise you know how you know you know you can go to different eateries they are the same eateries but you feel that all the food tastes different okay and that's the challenge with satellite campuses I think that multiple universities just wanted to be able to have some level of control about how people learn I wanted to be able to standardize the learning and that was why satellite campuses were affected a bit so I think I'll understand why they try to limit satellite campuses because the danger is will you be able to maintain the same quality of learning across or because the satellite campus you might not have the administrative monitoring of the campus when you are on the campus of the university center so what is the role of tech in all of this because in other countries for instance the UK there's distance learning right in the US as well in Canada there's distance learning so you can actually learn online shouldn't mind you already thinking of other means such as you know using tech to our own just to utilize tech to our own advantage and and just say okay we know that we have this amount of students that are not able to go into this university because we do not have enough however we're creating another avenue for them to still be able to learn for them to still be able to earn a degree and so they can learn online at the comfort of their own homes and we will still have lecturers and counselors and everyone who can monitor your progress I agree with you but I hope you know that your constitution does not allow distance learning for all the graduates it's a constitutional issue so then I think it's important to make us feel okay that's why I'm asking that shouldn't we be looking at that and even with the constitution yes we should be able to move that way because the constitution was created at some point however nothing is cast on stone you should still be able to move certain things be fluid yes that's the word be fluid with the constitution and say okay this is where the world is moving into right now the world has moved to tech that's where we are right now no matter how you look at it it is still what it is so we shouldn't be able to move in the constitution and say let us allow this thing because at the end of the day it's for our own advantage even hold that even globally not everybody does online learning and that's a business decision okay that's a business decision and I'll tell you why it's a business decision so if I'm learning distance learning and I'll have to pay $5,000 for instance because it's distance learning okay if I was to be on the campus maybe I'll be paying $16,000 okay so even the western world not all the costs are distance learning if you notice even the western world they will usually do post graduates you have more graduate distance learning courses because they understand that you would have your jobs and you're doing other things so you need to be able to infuse both of them yeah but why can't we have that why can't we have that because the post graduates are still struggling for space in our regular universities we have so so I know um I know of I don't know if I can mention the name of the university let's look at it but I don't know any university one university who is doing its MBA remotely okay it's another until I assume it's MBA remotely but of course I agree with you that most post graduate studies can actually be done online we don't really always have to go to these environments and of course it's also because of the control mechanism of our african environment okay must you see everybody you know it's until I see you I can go you know it's it's it's a psychological thing but I but I think I agree with you that if we do more post graduate studies remotely in the whole great space on the campus for the exactly most of the infrastructure you know and and let us most of the school so yes I agree with you and I think the lawmakers so for instance that's what the lawmakers should be looking out for easier of thinking for building more universities how do we decongest how do we for instance I know private university that is trying to say you know what from 300 level to 400 level can we start taking your courses remotely and leave the campuses for 120 levels yeah but guess what you're going to have another problem do you need as most lecturers to do distance learning as physically I have I think I might have a solution to that so most distance learning courses most times they create videos you have videos that's how you learn and one time I thought we were going to say I'm going to use AI it's technology sorry you need for a course only one lecturer can do that the problem with that is that you are going to move people out of job then you face us again okay well if we talk about the problems of Nigeria and especially the education our educational system in Nigeria we might spend days here talking about it like you said it's multifaceted it's layer upon layer so when we're trying to dissect every item we might not finish from here so we'll drop the ball here right now today on this topic we'd like to thank you so much for coming on the program this morning and bearing your thoughts uh to us thank you we were dying okay thank you we've been talking with uh Oluwadari Oluwadari in Nigeria management consultant and international development advisor here in Lagos state we were talking about the facts that the lawmakers are requesting for 32 more universities is it necessary or is it not yes it's necessary but there are so many layers that we have to surmount before we can get to that point according to his advice and this eventually is where we wrap it up on the show this morning my name is Nyam Ghul at Gadji let's do it again tomorrow my name is Remy Paulson have a good day