Former Congressman Anthony Wiener last week pled guilty to a charge of distributing obscene material to a minor that carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison. He is also now a registered sex offender. But a new report this week from Who What Why suggests Wiener may have been the victim of a political setup. How much should Anthony Wiener, sharing his laptop with Clinton aide Huma Abedin, shape the outcome of last November's presidential election? We are joined by Jonathan Allen, co-author of the best-selling book Shattered Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. Thank you so much for being with us. It's my pleasure to be here, I think. Oh, great. Are you tired of talking about Anthony Wiener? I know you've covered him extensively. Yeah, I've covered him extensively since he was a member of the House of Representatives. For reporters, somebody who was quick-witted and sometimes really thoughtful about policy issues and has, over the last five or six years, created an endless amount of copy. Some of it is sad to watch. There's a level of sort of personal destruction there that I have some sympathy for knowing him, but it is fascinating, obviously, to a lot of people and certainly people who don't like Democrats or who hate Democrats, you know, watch it as they're sort of shredding for an unhappy time. Right. I was at the Philadelphia Convention working with Triumphy and Sulcomic Dog and I saw Anthony Wiener. He was wearing a purple shirt, checked pants, this fishing hat. He wanted to be noticed. I thought, well, this guy's just an exhibitionist. He just wants to be noticed. I have a theory about Huma. I want to ask you about Comey and the emails. By the way, let me say it's interesting you say that because then I wrote a sort of day-no-mott story for his departure from Congress after it was first revealed that he was sexting with women way back when and I think the leader of that story was Anthony Wiener, exactly where he's always wanted to be in the spotlight. And he could have made a good, I thought, I thought being mayor of New York City would have been right for him. He had that kind of Ed Koch quality except for the celibacy. But let me. Right.  So here's my crazy theory about Huma. I think she was Hillary's favorite, not despite Anthony Wiener being her husband but because Anthony Wiener was her husband. I don't, I want to get all house of cards on you but I honestly believe the Clintons needed Anthony Wiener near the White House to distract from Bill that Anthony Wiener was a useful degenerate and that the Clintons are playing chess and there are six moves ahead and thought we need Anthony Wiener around us so Bill goes unnoticed. I disagree with you and I'll tell you why. The reason is that Huma, Huma Abedin has been with Hillary Clinton for her entire adult life, for Huma Abedin's entire adult life and it was a White House intern, not the Monica Lewinsky stuff, White House intern, but with the White House intern, you know, around that time period of Lewinsky and is much closer to the Clintons than her husband is. Okay. And do you want to take that call? For the ADD crowd, phone calls ringing in the background. How bad was it for Huma to be sharing her laptop with Anthony Wiener? I mean, in the normal context, it's not that bad.  Sometimes I use hers. I don't have classified information that I'm not sure about my laptop, although after this campaign, who knows? So, you know, I mean, obviously for a normal couple, I don't think it's unusual to share laptops. I think the unusual thing here was that Hillary Clinton had a private email server that had classified information on it and was emailing back and forth on non-classified systems with classified information. Now, it's important to know that just for a substance check here that you can't email classified emails from the classified system to the non-classified system. So somebody has to accidentally or potentially intentionally put classified information into a non-classified email for it to transfer back and forth. And a lot of things are classified like the existence of a drone program, for instance, is classified. So if you mentioned a drone program and an email between the Secretary of State and her aide, technically they're moving classified information, everybody knew we had a drone program. But some of the things were much more serious than that. I think what the FBI concluded is that there wasn't an effort here, there was no intent to make classified information vulnerable and that they couldn't show any intent to do that. The reason that she set up the server was to keep her email private. I think that's why you didn't see a prosecution. Two important things. One is there has to be intent to reveal classified information. So there was no intent, might have been sloppiness, but you're pointing out that if it's really important, these documents never get transferred through ordinary email. That's what we learned, right? Right. It's complicated, but the government has a classified system and that has multiple levels and you can't email down, you can't email from the top level, the lower level, you can't email from a lower level to non-classified. And but what you can do is you could create classified information, so to speak. You could take something that was classified, you personally could take something that was classified, email it to me on my Gmail and suddenly we are trafficking and classified information.  However, some of the information in those emails was classified. We're talking with Jonathan. I know it's confusing. No, it's not, it's not confusing. I think we all do things and if somebody's a snake in the grass looking to catch us, they can find something. I'm told that every American violates about three federal laws a day. So we can all be arrested for something. We're talking with Jonathan Allen. He's the co-author of the best-selling book Shattered Inside Hillary Clinton's Doom campaign. Was Comey stuck between a rock and a hard place when he went before Congress and said the investigation is still going on at the 11th hour with Hillary? He was because he told them that it was over and he said he would update them on any new information. And so, you know, you can see how from moment to moment, you can sort of see how his thinking goes and him trying to do the right thing in various places and obviously angering just about everybody. I think he was in a tough spot. Now, he chose the spotlight when Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on a tarmac in Arizona right before this decision was being made and then essentially accused herself. He decided to step into that breach and not only say he was not going to recommend a prosecution, but then essentially read the indictment against Hillary Clinton highly unusual. For those who believe that Jim Comey is a big factor in this election, I think he's certainly a factor in the election. But you have to remember, none of this happens unless she sets up this email server. So it is incomplete for her to say Jim Comey was a factor at the end of the election and not point back to her own culpability. We're talking with Jonathan Allen, best-selling author and he also moonlights as a clown at Chuck E. Cheese's. Where are you? Did Comey think this is how I read it? I think Comey figured Hillary was going to win and he prides himself in being nonpartisan. He stood up to Gonzales at Ashcroft's hospital bed. He wouldn't sign the the fees of warrants. He's pretty objective. Was he polishing his image by standing up to Hillary because he thought she's going to be president? I'm going to have to investigate her. I better show that I'm objective and I'm not under her thumb. I mean, his friends have essentially said as much. I mean, that this is somebody who believed that if she's going to be president in the United States, it's going to have to look like he had done due diligence and that he did do due diligence and that the FBI did do due diligence and that it was important that the public know that. I think reporters followed the campaign in a similar way. They thought that she was going to be president. So they did a pretty hard vet of her. I think they tried at times to do as hard of a vet on Donald Trump and were not as successful at doing that vet. Although, I would point out, David Ferrick, hold of the Washington Post won Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on Donald Trump's sort of fake charity and foundation that didn't actually give out its own money to anybody or gave out to very few of the people that they know that it was giving money to. So there was certainly some scrutiny of him and his business ties and obviously his the allegations of sexual misconduct against him. But I think because reporters felt like she was going to win, they did the real full vet on her. We practically knew everything about Donald Trump before the election. But the only thing that stuck was the the two pays stuck. Everything else we just accepted. We knew he was dirty. How big a liability was Bill Clinton? At some point, you must have figured she was going to be president. Bill Clinton meets with Loretta Lynch, the new attorney general on the tarmac. What did he say?  Well, we didn't get anything more than what, you know, what was reported essentially at the time that they talked about their families and, you know, sort of nice soft stuff like that. But Bill Clinton is smart enough to know that just just making his presence known to the attorney general, whom he once hired as a as a federal prosecutor, you know, has an effect or could have an effect. And certainly smart enough to know that if it became public, it could be a problem. The response that we understand was sort of universal in the White House and in the Clinton campaign was WTF. You know, that's what people said. They're like, how could these people not understand that this could be a problem?   And yet, you know, this sort of sets Jim Comey in motion. Had she won, they'd be impeaching her right now. There's no question that she herself is her own liability because of the political climate. It would be difficult to impeach her without specific impeachable charges related to things that she had done in the presidency. So you sort of have to wait to find out if there's, you know, high crimes or misdemeanors with the Justice Department. Having said that, you know, controversy was not prosecutable. I think it would be hard for Congress to impeach her on that. Certainly the House could impeach her over the wall because it only takes a majority vote to get those articles of impeachment passed, but to get two thirds of the Senate to remove a president from office is a pretty high bar. The only person, Andrew Johnson, came one vote short of being removed from office. Bill Clinton obviously was not removed from office. And Richard Nixon would have been removed from office, but facing that decided to resign. So it's a pretty high bar to actually get it done. It's interesting. We have Cory Brett Schneider on the show today. He's a constitutional law professor at Brown University, author of When the State Speaks. He says on today's show that the only way to impeach is pretty much through the conflation of politics and a possible violation of the law. But politics is what moves an impeachment. That's why I walked away from that interview with Cory Brett Schneider thinking that if Hillary were president, the politics are there to just destroy her, that she would be immediately crippled by a Republican House. And Bill Clinton, how big a liability do you think he would have been? You never know what Bill Clinton's going to do. So, you know, I think it potentially could have been a liability. I think on a policy level, he's probably an asset. I think on a political level in terms of persuading politicians to do things, I think he's probably an asset, but certainly his foundation activities and the sort of cloud of sexual misconduct around him is something that has to be considered in terms of the politics. And I agree with the professor. I mean, impeachment or removal from office is a political act. It is not a legal act. There is no real definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. So, it's basically you've got two-thirds of the Senate willing to get rid of a president and a majority of the House, you know, the presidency is over. But those people don't want to be seen as acting purely on a political basis, so they need to have some real reason to do that. And I actually think that's why, in large part, the Clinton impeachment did not succeed in the Senate, that basically the Senate's decision was, you know, having sexual relations with an intern and even lying about it were not strong enough reasons for Democrats in the Senate to vote to get rid of them. I think that their constituents didn't feel that way. I've always said that Donald Trump is pretty much safe unless he drops to 25 percent approval, because it's got to be at the point where Republicans feel like it's more dangerous to them to stand by him than to back away from him. And he's not at that point right now. How much did Bernie move Hillary Clinton to the left? Would she have been a progressive president? I think she would have been a progressive president, because I think she was always a little more progressive than her husband. I think that where she falls on the spectrum is close to him, but a little bit to the left of him. And I certainly think that she was reflective of a Democratic party that was moving to the left. And you could see that in her close attention to various Democratic constituencies, you know, when you're talking about going back on the sort of tough-on-crime Bill Clinton days of the early 90s to now talking about getting rid of mass incarceration, maybe talking about LGBT issues, this is somebody who was campaigning far to the left of where her husband campaigned to the left of where she was in 2008. And I think Bernie Sanders did pull her to the left a little bit on some issues. But I would say this, I think she was always cognizant of and perhaps in many ways to her detriment cognizant of the plausibility of doing things that she promised on the campaign trail as president and tried not to get into a place where she was promising things that she didn't think she would be able to deliver on. What she probably has found by now, after watching Barack Obama defeat her, after watching Bernie Sanders come close and watching Donald Trump defeat her, is that it is a lot easier on the campaign trail to promise whatever you need to to win. And you know, we've seen President Trump has done some things that are consistent with what he promised on the campaign trail and backed away from some of the others. Haven't we found that presidents Trump, notwithstanding, do keep or at least try to keep their promises that they make on the campaign trail? A candidate says, I believe in Medicare for all. They're going to try to implement that their first 100 days in office. Broadly presidents try to keep their promises and they will measure themselves against their promises. But oftentimes they will promise more than they know they can deliver. And at times we'll get to places where they're promising things that are pretty clearly more than they can deliver. But I think the aspiration matters to voters. I think it tells voters who they are, what they really believe in. It might not tell them exactly what priorities will be emphasized, but it does give the voter a sense when you're out there a little stronger of what your core values are. And I think that's been a problem for Secretary Clinton. She's somebody who would, you know, rather than saying I'm against the trans-persistent partnership, she would say I'm against the trans-persistent partnership, which by the way I negotiated. But here are the conditions under which I could accept it. And I think voters are looking for I'm against this or I'm for this. They want a clean break. They want something new. That's why up until recently we rarely had senators making it to the Oval Office. We wanted governors because they didn't have a paper trail. We wanted fresh eyes in the Oval Office. There's something unattractive about a candidate who's a victim of her own expertise. What do you think her core value was? My core value is Medicare for All. I believe that when you look at all the issues facing this country, we need Medicare for All. That is the thing that I would get up every morning and fight for. Why was she running? What did she stand for? What was her unifying theory that would bring her to the Oval Office? It's interesting. We talked about this in the book at length. You know, even her own campaign age had difficulty figuring out what was her one big idea. You know, there were a million different things on which she had a position, but no one big unifying idea.  No, America first. You know, this was this was a candidate who I think struggled to tell the American people what she was going to do for them that was bigger than her, you know, that was more about them than about her gaining power. And that doesn't mean to say she doesn't believe in all the things that she or most of the things that certainly that she proposed on the campaign trail. But just that she had trouble with that one big idea. And in fact, one of her top aides said to me, my co-author Amy Barnes, I would have had a reason for running or I wouldn't have run. And what do you think that reason was in your gut? Yeah, I mean, I think it was that she believed she would be the best person to handle all of the various crises that you handle as president of the United States. I think she thought she would be a good president. And which, again, is is about her more than it's about other people or more than more than about, you know, about more than delivering some some particular policy. And then that's where people got lost. And not everybody. I mean, obviously, 65 million people voted for her. There were a lot of people who supported what she was what she was about. But for what ended up being the swing constituency, the you know, the working class white voters in in the Rust Belt, they wanted to hear a little bit more about how she was going to make their lives better in a pretty easy to grasp way. And she failed on that on that score. Trump is a victim of leaking.  How much leaking would be going on in a Clinton Oval Office? I would assume a lot because I don't think she instills loyalty. What was one of the things that allowed us to do this book is that her campaign really didn't leak a lot during this particular election cycle. She put an emphasis on not having people that she thought would leak on having people who would when they ran up ideas up the flagpole and ran into resistance would not go to the press. And I think it's one of the reasons she probably didn't correct for some of the errors is that she wasn't reading them on the front page of the nation's newspapers because her campaign was insisting all the time that everything was hunky-dory and go and fly. What is the danger to a leader who isn't porous, somebody who is Nixonian, who doesn't allow the leaks? The danger is they operate in a bubble. Is that what you're saying? Exactly. You're saying that leaks actually help a president. I'm saying they can. I think that the ability to have things aired out a little more than they can near enough circle, the ability to hear what some of your detractors from inside your own camp would say to a reporter about what you're missing, I think it's important to get part of that. That doesn't mean that every week is good for a president or that everything is leaking that's good for a president. I think there's a balance, but I do think it's important to be able as a candidate to hear some ideas that people might not tell you to your face. A president like Obama just talks to Valerie Jarrett and assumes that everybody else is leaking. A lot of the weeks, I think the Obama White House was very good at the sort of weak on offense, if you will. They were very good at constructing narratives and putting them out as sort of an offensive weapon. The way that they leaked to reporters is to tell them the story, they give them the backstory about what's going on, give them some inside details from inside a room and keep them pretty well said. And then there were leaks that Obama didn't want. His agencies would leak stories about what he was saying no to, which by the way is normal that happens in the presidency. Usually the people leaking are the ones who lost the argument and they think they have a better idea and so they go talk to reporters about it so that it's a public airing and if the president is wrong or the public isn't with the president there may be some pressure on him to listen again to the people that lost the argument. In 2008, Hillary lost to Obama. Is it partly because the people who work for Obama loved him and the people who work for the Clintons are there for transactional reasons? It's for their resume and they can make money and they can move on. Is that what separates the Clintons from the Obamas? Don't you think the only people who work for the Clintons are loyalists who know that there's a big paycheck coming their way and that the Clintons have something on them to keep them in line? I mean I think there's a mix. I think that that loyalty is huge in Clinton world and that's and that there are a lot of people who are loyal because this is where the paycheck has come from or what they thought would come from in the future, a plumb white house job, etc. But I think there are also people who simply believe in their style of politics who are essentially democratic centrists and pragmatists and transactional themselves. So I don't think that this is you know I don't think Clinton world is devoid of people who actually have a belief in Hillary Clinton or that Hillary Clinton would be the best president. At the same time I think that there is a stronger affinity for a Barack Obama or a Bernie Sanders or even a George W. Bush who goes out there and sort of says here are my values and here is my ideology and that can be a much stronger pull when you identify with somebody that way. I think that can be something that's a lot more inspiring. We've been talking with Jonathan Allen he's the co-author of the best-selling book Shattered Inside Hillary Clinton's Doom campaign. Before you go we've heard the hand-wringing of the perpetual permanent campaign that the minute the president or a congressperson sets foot in their new office they're running for reelection.  Is the permanent campaign a virtue in that Congress even though they're Republicans have to pay attention to the polls and they have to get rid of Trump because he's dragging them down. Is that why Goldwater went in to the Oval Office and told Richard Nixon you got to go? Is it because of the permanent campaign? I mean I think that you know the founding fathers wanted certainly the House of Representatives to be pretty close to the electorate to win and lose based on the popular sentiment changes. Donald Trump's already campaigning for reelection. We've seen him you know relatively recently that he was in Harrisburg Pennsylvania basically do a campaign rally. We are in a permanent campaign the number of months of the year or the biennium I guess that are sort of reserved for politics versus policy have expanded so it's almost always all politics now but I think that's just a sort of a function of the way we operate. I don't think it's bad that numbers of Congress are attentive to politics. I mean our system is set up with the idea that the people are right. I you know I covered the campaign. I was on the trail with Trump the encyclomic dog. Notice the gravitas? I was going to say were you the executive producer or were you the gopher for the dog? I cleaned up after the dog and I walked away from this campaign thinking go big or go home if you're going to run for president go big or go home that the American people we like to think we're always frightened but when it comes to electing presidents we're fearless you know Obama was a fearless choice even Trump was a fearless choice it's a pretty brave electorate. Bernie was go big or go home and 2020 vision but had the Democrats gone big and trusted the electorate and went with Bernie I think he'd be president right now I think the American people aren't as frightened as the Washington establishment bets on. I think you're right about that you know I think Hillary Clinton twice ran campaigns once in the primary against Barack Obama and once it gets Donald Trump saying you should be frightened about what this person intends to do they don't know what they're doing they're promising too much and uh twice was rejected in that theory that she espoused. Yeah well anyway thank you. And by the way at the same time made her the status quo carry with two elections in a row. This is a country that is constantly reinventing itself well thank you for your time I hope you come back Jonathan Allen is the co-author of the best-selling book Shattered inside Hillary Clinton's doom campaign I know how busy you are thank you for your time. It's my pleasure


Live from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE covering Oracle Modern Customer Experience 2017, brought to you by Oracle. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live in Las Vegas, the Mandalay Bay for Oracle's Modern CX Conference, hashtag Modern CX, it's theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, SiliconANGLE, my co-host Peter Birch for the two days. Our next guest is Ron Corbett, sir owner and CEO of Relationship One. Back again from last year and it was one of my memorable interviews last year. Welcome back. Thank you for having me. To theCUBE, we went down in dirty last year. I remember we were having a great conversation about ad tech and essentially if you take that videos on YouTube and look at it, I guarantee you it's going to play right into what happened this year. So again, we predicted it. We didn't say AI, but we did say we're going to see data really driving and that's what Oracle ended up locking in on data. Yeah, absolutely. I mean data is going to be the underlying conversation for the next few years, right? So we spoke a lot last year about MarTech stack and actually MarTech and ad tech kind of colliding coming together. And all of that is being fueled by the mass quantities of data that we have as sales and marketing folks out there to leverage and how do you use it? It's never about, do I have enough data? A lot of times you feel you almost have too much but now how can you use it appropriately? We were talking before we came on camera here about that dynamic of ad tech and MarTech collision we were talking about last year. It's interesting, if you just say digital end to end as a fabric, then you can still talk about these pillars of solutions, but they're not silos. If you look at the holistic data approach and say, hey, if we're going to have horizontally scalable data which we want frictionless, less than 150 milliseconds responses they want to promote, you can still do your pillars, but be open to data sharing. Versus, here's my siloed stack, I do this, I do this, that's shifted and that's what Oracle's main news is here. Yeah, absolutely, so I think what you're seeing, even in not only Oracle, but at an organizational level, people are kind of taking a more holistic view of data that they own and data that they can enrich with external information, right? And how does that information then fuel all of these other areas within customer experience, right? So within the CX world. So how do you use that to provide better service? How do you do that? Use that information to optimize your sales efforts and from a marketing standpoint, obviously, my background is how do we leverage that to optimize our spend, optimize our communication, our orchestration, all of those pieces that all comes down to that common language of data that we have access to? So about the real time aspect, because we teased on it last time, we did talk about how to leverage some of the advertising opportunities and the role of data in real time. That's been a message here from batch to real time. So the consumer's in motion all the time depending upon their context. Yeah, well, this is kind of the evolution of what we're seeing in the technology, right? Because historically you've built a campaign, you've maybe created some type of journey or persona, you're building content around very specific elements within a life cycle structure. Life cycles are not linear any longer, they never really were, but they're definitely not now. And you have to adapt very quickly. You have to kind of, you know, yet leverage technology to say, what am I saying, communicating in what channel, but in more in a real time thing, right? You have to look at what was the last thing that individual did, the activity, all of that. Historically you haven't had that depth or degree of real time list, you know? It's been more kind of structured cadence. That doesn't exist, right? That's not going to exist going forward. And that's where things like AI, which I always hesitate to use that term because it's kind of the buzzword now of today, but tools that are more of that, you know, augmentation of how we do things, right? Leveraging the power of technology. That's going to change how we orchestrate things and how we communicate. So I'm just looking at your tweet here. I want to bring this up because you mentioned AI and we were talking about it. Thanks to all who stopped by my MME17, Modern Marketing Experience 17, little bit of a jab at the messaging. That's cool like that. Session on artificial intelligence. Loved all the support from my fellow modern marketers. What do you mean by that? Would you make a bold statement? Did you stand, did you have courage? Did you stand tall? Did you call out AI? What was the conversation there? Well, I called out kind of the silliness of the term AI. So I picked on that the marketers, but I picked on the term. So we as marketers, I call them the squirrel moments that the marketers were always kind of onto the next thing, right? And I did, I kind of reviewed the past eight, some years of these conferences and what were the topics, right? There were some topics that were transformational topics, you know, like how does marketing automation or organizational change or those type of things, right? Those are things that kind of stick with you. And then there are things that are more like timely things like predictive scoring and all of that. They're tactics. They're more things that I use as a marketer or salesperson. What I was picking on with AI is that it's the buzzword. It gets you funding. It gets you people in a room for a conference. That's great. But it doesn't do anything by itself. It's really an enabler. It's a pervasive thing that combines machine cycle and data. But you have to teach it. You have to, you know, incorporate it into your applications. And as marketers, ultimately, it's going to change our tool set to make it better. So it's more of kind of poking fun at the term. Yeah, yeah. And kind of- Well, we always say AI. I mean, I've said it on the QAIs, BS. Although I love a software guy. I love AI because it really promotes software that has been very nuanced. So IoT, machine learning. This is very geeky computer science stuff that's super cool. So anything that can take that mainstream in the software world, I'm a big fan of. That being said, I think the augmentation is the real message, which is, you can use machine learning. You can use software. Use some tactical things to make things better. You said it in our earlier segment this morning, which is there's a variety of things that you can automate away. Well, the thing that's, and you mentioned earlier, it's the ability that we now have the ability to collect an enormous amount of data that's relevant and important. And we now have the technology to actually do something with that data, but we still have to apply it. And there's a lot of change in this to happen. So the way AI is different from other systems is that historically systems, financial systems, software would deliver an answer. And it was highly stylized. And it was rarely a clear correspondence with the real world. So we closed the books. How much money did we make? There was an answer and it came from a set of data structures that were defined within the system. Now we're trying to bring in the real world and have these technologies focus on the real world and they're giving ranges of possible options. And that is kind of new. And it's good and it's useful, but it does not take the discretionary, the requirement for discretion out of the system. And that's why it's the augmentation. Well, Ron and I were talking last year about this, Peter, and I think you're getting at a trajectory that I've been saying for a while and this is kind of developing in real time here in theCUBE and also some of our commentary is the role of software development and DevOps that we've seen in cloud is moving into the front lines of business, meaning just there's techniques. You're seeing agile already kind of being talked about. You're seeing standing up campaigns. So language, I mean, you can almost go to the cloud stack and say building blocks, EC2, S3, Kubernetes, containers, microservices and apply that to marketing because there's a lot of parallels going on to the characteristics of the infrastructure, certainly critical infrastructure to new enabling infrastructure. So it's interesting that you're seeing marketers becoming more savvy and being kind of inundated. What's your thoughts on that reaction? Yeah, it's the evolution though.  We've been using tools like collaborative filtering. You go back to late 90s, early 2000s, right? When we were building recommendation engines and simple, that's algorithmic kind of stuff, right? No different than we're doing today with pricing rules and all that stuff. The difference is that you now have more power to do it. You have the ability to do it more real time and on the fly, you use far more data, right? Yeah, more computing car and more data, not only your data that you own, but data that you leverage from third party to really understand people. And you have a wider lens, right? Historically, you're making recommendations based on what you had in the cart or some other things that people had bought that also had that in the cart. That's different now, right? With this type of technology, this enabling kind of world, you can look at a lot more data points to kind of give you that. Peter and I was gonna say, the problem is that anything around AI requires a couple things, right?  So AI- It's still a computer. It's still a computer. So everyone forgets that for it to work, it has to learn, right? So I have some friends who have built marketing tools on top of Watson, for example. It takes hundreds and hundreds of hours for it to actually start doing something, right? You have to train it. You have to know- But even the word learning and training is misleading in many respects. So, but because at the end of the day, it's software, but what is new is that it's being applied in richer, more complex domains. The recommendation engine used to be just for recommendation. Now we're using those same models and we're combining them and applying them to richer, more complex domains. Yet, ideally, the software's not getting more difficult to use. And I think what really makes this compelling is a software engineer, is that we're doing all this more complexity, but we're packaging it and making it simpler. I think that's the point of where Oracle's going and why they don't call it AI, right? They're using it more kind of at the micro- Adaptive, right? Because they're thinking of it at kind of the microservice level, right? They're thinking of like, how can we make these widgets of functionality to better the tools we have, right, to incorporate it into, to not make it so, you know, a jump forward in our tool set. It's just now an augmented component of what we do today. And it's almost a stack approach. We've got foundational building blocks and at the top is highly high-velocity, highly dynamic apps and you could argue we were talking that, you know, the CMO's going to be an app shop, essentially someday, but this begs the question and I'd like to get your response, both of you guys to weigh in on this, because this is kind of a question that I'd like to get on the record is, what is modern marketing these days? Define modern marketing because what we're getting at here is, to your point of the evolution, is we've seen this movie before, okay? Is it a replatforming? Is it a building block approach? What is a modern marketer? What does modern marketing mean? How do you execute that? Yeah, I think it's quick and nimble and adaptive. I mean, the whole point of modern marketing is that you're always kind of looking at how you can rethink, how you can optimize, how you can leverage technology to do things. It's not about, you know, replacing headcount, right? With a machine or a tool or tech. It's really about how do you leverage that headcount more effectively? How can you focus on optimization using those technologies? So modern marketing is, again, probably another buzzword, but just like modern sales, modern commerce, all of that. But it's really about how do you enable it with that stack to do better? So is it fashion or is it like, hey, there's a modern marketer over there. Look what she's wearing, here she's wearing. Or is it more technology-based that's got some fundamental foundational shifts that are being worked on or both? It's leveraging technology and it's leveraging data more effectively and creatively, right? And it's not being stuck with a prescriptive approach on campaign and orchestration and building, right? You know, it still requires strategy and all of that, but it's really how you approach it. So how you think it is. What's your angle? You know, that's a great question and I was, and that's why I giggled about it. I think you gave a great answer, you know. And, you know, many of the precepts of, the three key precepts of Avgel are iterative, optimistic, and empirical and it's nimble, quick, and, you know, you change. But to me, I'll answer the question this way. Modern marketing focuses on delivering value as opposed to the customer. To the customer, not back into the business.  And if along the way it created value for the customer, that's okay. But more often than not, it was annoying. And as customers can share their experience and share information about how they, how a brand engaged them, that gets amplified. Annoying gets amplified. And I think if you focus on, are you creating value for the customer, you also end up with a derivative element that you're accelerating leads. You have more visibility in where they are in the process and where they are in the journey. So I guess the way I'd answer it, it's not distinct from yours, but the idea of modern marketing focuses on creating value for the customer and the only way you consistently do that by being nimble and blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I agree in the same thing, though, that a core tenant, if you will, of modern marketing is not only, absolutely, it is the value proposition. It's also making sure you understand the impact of the value proposition, right? The velocity to the pipeline, the impact on revenue, all of those things, right? And because if you're just, you know, if it's all about that value, which it has to be, right, from a customer perspective, but you're not doing all of the other pieces, you're not going to justify the spend, you're not going to get, you know, all of those pieces of- Let me see if I can thread the two points together, because what I'm seeing by listening is, you mentioned that, the main thing in my mind was the data, that's different, right? You're saying, okay, think differently, talk to the customer, and the value to the enterprise value is being created through a different mechanism versus just serving. Not really, not really. The fundamental focus historically of marketing has been what are we doing for the business? What are we doing for sales? We're getting- MQL. What's that? Now if we focus on, now if you say, well no, we have to create value for the customer in everything we do, then we get permission to do things differently. We get more data out of the customer because the trust is there. The customer is, we're allowed to bias the customer to the next best one. So I'm trying to answer my question, so I see that, your point. My point is this, the modern marketer is defined by doing it, the business practices it a little bit differently to achieve the same thing. By focusing on creating value, they have to do things differently and now they can- I mean, we saw a time earlier, they weren't using data prior. That's a little different. If you go outward to co-in to create value while doing the table stakes stuff. It's changing, strategically thinking different of how you do it, right? Creating that value proposition is very different and also being able to measure and optimize, are you doing it correctly? Is it having impact on the business, right? Most of my customers are not for profits, right? They actually have to show the final line, right? And impact, so, and all of that requires data and the speed and velocity in which we have to run requires tech, right? And they have to get gestures in the market with customers, they have that touch point, they can leverage that. But here's where I think we agree, modern marketing is not speeding up and increasing the rate and lowering the cost of doing bad marketing. No, no, I mean, that's kind of exact. And that's- Marker's point. Right, you can spend a lot of money to do bad marketing, that's, you know- Let's double down on our bad marketing. Exactly. Ron, thanks so much for coming on theCUBE again. Thanks for sharing the insights. It's always a pleasure to get down and dirty and peel back the onion on some of these things. Final question for you, what do you expect for the evolution for this next year? No, man, I think AI is going to be with us for a while, you know, just because it's the new buzzword. So we've got a couple of cycles on that. We've got- It reminds me of Web 2.0, what is it? Well, and then that lasted for a few years as well. I think over the next year, so we're actually going to see the benefits of that augmentation, right? We're going to actually see some of these microservices if you will start fueling some of the tools that we already have. You're also going to see kind of that further collision of ad tech and martech, right? Because everything's digital and the impact of what that means for us as marketers. I can't wait for the hashtag marketing native because cloud native is coming and that someone's going to make it up. I hope not. You did. You just did. Okay, marketing native, what does that mean? We'll do a whole segment on that. We'll get Ron to come in. Hey, thanks for coming on theCUBE. Thanks for having me. Great to see you. I'm John Furrier, Peter Burris here and I really keep getting all the action. Extracting the data and sharing it with you. Ron, thanks to Ron for coming on again, twice in a row, two years in a row. This is theCUBE. We'll be back with more after this short break. Hirshavek. People obviously know you from Shark Tank, but the Hirshavek group has been really laser focused on cyber security. So I actually helped to bring a product called Checkpoint to Canada, firewalls, URL filtering, that kind of stuff. But you're also an entrepreneur, right? And you know the business. You've been in software, you detect business. I'm struck that you get a lot of pitches as entertainment meets business. On our show, we're a bubble. We don't do a lot of tech. We're a bubble.


Welcome to another episode of Think Tech Hawaii, Movershakers and Reformers, Politics in Hawaii series. I'm your host, Carl Kampanya. Today, I'm very excited to have a good friend of mine, Mr. Cesar Brinella, joining me. Cesar is a broadcaster. He is a personality, a radio personality for the Filipino community. Specifically, he does a radio show in the mornings as well as I think there's one or two in the afternoon he does. On KPRP, 6.50 a.m., Pinoy Power Radio. We're here today to talk about Filipino issues here in Hawaii and in the Philippines, some of the impacts that are going on right now with immigration in a couple of different areas. So thank you for joining and welcome to the show, Cesar. Thank you very much, Brother Carl, for inviting me. This is indeed a great privilege and opportunity for me to be a part of your great program. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Cesar Givonilia. I'm a radio broadcaster and a journalist because I'm part of the film career and a part of KPRP 6.50 Power Radio as a broadcaster. And of course, the program director of this radio station through the leadership of our founder, producer and CEO, Madam Amy Ortega Anderson, who has that guts and determination to keep a pace with the rhythm of time to promote the solidarity and unity amongst us Filipinos here in the island, so that we can promote and to foster much camaraderie. And maybe because of that, our success as a radio station here in the island, in the heart of Manolulu, a way back 2006 up to now, 2017, we are alive. It's 11 years, 11 years. It's not only a success of your radio station, in fact, the principles that you just defined as far as supporting one another and fostering the culture and fostering the people. And we were talking a few minutes ago about raising the people up, having that unity and making everyone better. I think that's been a huge part of the Filipino success here in Hawaii. It started many, many, many years ago. We know the cicadas. We've had conversations about the cicadas in the past as well. So tell me, okay, so I didn't know that you were also a film courier. Yeah, I'm a columnist and of course, the staff of film courier. And that was the beginning of my journey to being a media practitioner here in the island of Hawaii, Brother Carl. I was accepted by then, Madam Amy Ortega Anderson as a broadcaster of then KPHI. And then we moved to another radio station, which is at present at the KPRP 65th Avenue Power Radio. But in the year 2010, also I applied for film courier and because of the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, I was accepted by them and giving me the privilege and opportunity to write some articles pertaining to politics, to the present situation here in the island of Hawaii. And of course, the great leadership of former President Barack Obama at the time. He was the president of the United States of America. And of course, my country, the Philippines, no matter what they say about my country, I love my country. And I'm a Filipino by heart. Yes, and that is spectacular. In fact, I've been told, and I would like your input on this, I've been told that I have a Filipino heart. I wanted to know if that means that I'm more colorful or if it beats faster. What does it mean? It's okay, brother. It's okay. I think what it means is I care about people. Yeah. So that's what it is. I hope so, brother. I have what I've experienced in the last several years of being able to be involved with and participate with a number of various different Filipino organizations and Filipinos really through Hawaii is how much care that you each take in who you are and in each other. And that's something that I think is a great model for people to look at and recognize. And it fits very well with Hawaii and the sense of aloha as well. I think that's wonderful. So thank you again. And thank you again. What I'll say is a couple of years ago, 2015 was when I first got to meet Cesar. And I was also with Fidesz. Yes, Mr. Fidesz and Mr. Harvick. That's right. They were kind enough to invite me on to their radio show in the morning. And we spent a couple of months going through and talking about good issues and good politics. And issues throughout Hawaii. And it was one of my first experiences actually from this side of the conversation and talking with Cesar. I got to learn a lot there. So that's some of our history there. So I wanted to thank you for that. I want to thank Emmy Anderson Nortega for that as well and to Rose Aquino. She was a part of that as well. Rose is maybe for the next episode. She will be invited. Absolutely. I'm very much welcome. I would love to have her on as well. So I'm going to work that out definitely. Because I want to learn a lot more about some cultural aspects as well through her. So now let's talk about some politics. Let's get into fun here. So in the United States and in the Philippines, we have new presidents. Yes, of course. We have Donald Trump. And we have... What's the Duterte? President Rodrigo Duterte. Rodrigo Duterte. Okay. They seem to be similar. Would you say that they're similar? And that they both sort of have that strong man appeal? Yeah, I think there is certain similarities. Brother Carl, knowing very well that the newly elected president of the United States of America, President Donald Trump, is a man on the job for the government of the United States of America. And for sure, he is a successful businessman. And this is the first time that... If I'm not mistaken, he entered politics and he ripped victoriously that title being the president of the United States of America. And of course, for every title, there is a corresponding responsibilities in it. I think that's the most important part. Not the title, it's the responsibility. The responsibilities. What are you doing and how are you taking care of your people? Yeah. So now, one of the things that's coming up, and I think it impacts the Philippines, it impacts obviously the United States, and it impacts Hawaii, is the immigration piece. What Donald Trump is doing at the moment, what President Trump is trying to do at the moment with his immigration initiatives and his Muslim bans and so forth, that stuff is impacting people. So I wanted to hear from you. As far as the Filipino community is concerned, abroad as well as in Hawaii, what are some of the concerns that the Filipino community has with regards to immigration and some of these religious bans? Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, brother Mark, knowing very well that we have also a new president in the Philippines, who was selected overwhelmingly by millions of Filipino people in the person of President Rodrigo Duterte. And by his leadership, he is always on the go for these war and drugs, war and illegal gambling, and of course I would like to make peace with the communist party of the Philippines, especially its military wing, the New People's Army, so that we can have that unity and peaceful coexistence with different groups in the Philippines. But of all of these great programs of the Duterte administration, sometimes peace is elusive for this great purpose alone. So he's trying to clean up some of what's going on there. So he's trying to take care of, he's got a war on drugs. War and drugs, I would like to save those drug addicts and of course to make life anew for drug posers. And one of the things that I would like to give a clear perspective for these war and drugs is to keep the Philippines free from all illegal drugs so that the youth, especially those who are rising up brilliantly in the horizon of greatness, must secure from their own destiny that they will make the Philippines great again in the future. Would you say that Duterte is more of a populist? You said he was overwhelming, so therefore he was very popular. Would you say that his positions are very populist positions? As far as the people of the Philippines want there to be this war on drugs? Do they want there to be the cleaning up that he's doing? And was this a big part of his campaign? Yes, Brother Mark. And with that opinion, with that statement alone, we can say that President Donald Trump allegedly supporting also this advocacy of the great president of the Philippines, President Rodrigo Duterte to get rid of all those who are trying to wreak havoc and the peace and order of my beloved country, the pearl of the Orient seas. So in this respect, Brother Carl, we have to support and give a chance to this new leadership to shine and to prove that the Duterte administration can make the Philippines progressive and be the solution of all the countries in the world. I remember there was a big struggle as far as that campaign was concerned as well. There were the old Marcos people as well. Has that been able to be healed? Would you say the Philippines is coming together or is there still a separation? I think in this respect, Brother Carl, those who are pro-Marcos and of course we have the pro-Kinos, sometimes those are the two names that make the Philippines sometimes in this swaying point. So if we are to give opinions to that, we have unity but of course we have to follow the rule of law. And when former senator Ferdinand Bong Bong Marcos Jr. was defeated by then Madame Vice-President Lenny Robredo, there are some observations maybe allegedly that there was something unusual during the elections. So former senator Marcos filed his electoral protest to the presidential electoral tribunal to prove everything that there is something fishy. So something fishy, there's conflict. So okay, so it sounds actually very familiar with me. He's going out here. So unfortunately we're already at our break. So we'll take a quick break. Thank you for joining us. Think Tech Hawaii Movers, Shakers and Reformers, Politics in Hawaii. Thanks again to my guest, Cesar Benelli. We'll see you in one minute. Thank you. Hi, this is Jane Sugimura. I'm the co-host for Kondo Insider. And we're on Think Tech Hawaii every Thursday at 3 o'clock. And we're here to talk about condominium living and issues that affect condominium residents and owners. And I hope you'll join us every week on Thursday. Aloha. Aloha. I'm Bill Sharp, your host for Asian Review, a weekly show right here on Think Tech Hawaii that's devoted to substantive analytical discussion about contemporary events in Asia. By Asia we mean anything from Hawaii, west to Pakistan, and from the Russian Far East South to Australia and New Zealand. Hello, my name is Crystal. Let me tell you, my talk show, I'm all about health. It's healthy to talk about sex. It's healthy to talk about things that people don't talk about. It's healthy to discuss things that you think are unhealthy because you need to talk about it. So I welcome you to watch Quok Talk and engage in some provocative discussions on things that do relate to healthy issues and have a well-balanced attitude in life. Join me. Welcome back to Think Tech Hawaii Movers, Shakers and Reformers, Politics and Hawaii Series. I'm your host, Carl Campania. Welcome again, one more time. Yes, for today, Mr. Cesar Bonilla, who is broadcaster with KPRP, 6.50 a.m. P1 Power Radio. In addition, Brother Carl, I'm also an Ilocano and Tagalog court interpreter of the Hawaii Judiciary. There you go, also very important. Man of many hats and many responsibilities. All very important. All right, let's dig more into immigration and how that's impacting. So what I would like to hear from you is from the local Hawaii Filipino community, is there concern about the immigration policies or does the Filipino community support the idea based on rule of law? Is there concern, first of all, is there concern about deportations of family? If you would explain. What would you say as far as the Filipino community and are there concerns about any family members being deported? One of our values, Carl, is that we have these so-called close family ties. And everyone of us have been achieving the fact that we all love our fellow Filipinos, especially our relatives, and it has a great impact on the family. If ever, one of our relatives has been deported. And if ever, your entry to the United States of America is clear and, of course, legal without any doubt at all, there is no way for the government to give you that hip-hop so that you can live in the United States of America. That's one of the things that has happened. There have been people, primarily from Mexico, but there have been people that have been detained. We know that we've got a number of different things that are being looked at, but people who look a certain way, people who look maybe like you, where they're going to come up and they're going to ask you, can you show me your ID? Can you prove to me that you are legally here? And if you are not able, if you happen to forget your wallet that day, you're going to get detained and your family is going to have to go through that impact. So that's the thing that I think concerns people. I don't think anyone, and I'll say this, I don't think anyone thinks that being here illegally is good. I don't think anybody is saying that we are just accepting of that. But we also recognize there are challenges, and not everybody has the money, and not everybody has the access to get here to the United States. So that's one of the issues and concerns. So for me, for my family, I would be concerned that someone would get picked up and potentially detained just because they didn't have some papers with them. So that's where I was hoping to hear, and I think it's great as far as the Filipino, from what you said, if I can rephrase it, the Filipino community supports legalized immigration and you want to make sure that you don't have a problem with the fact that if you're here illegally, then you should be deported. So would you agree with that? Yes, I agree with that very well. And of course, we have to follow the rule of law and the so-called due process in dealing with those legal problems. And I could suggest that the Philippine consulate draw in Dr. Gina Hamuralin. She's wonderful, by the way. Yes, the brilliant and energetic consul general of the Philippine consulate of the Philippines here in Hawaii should come to the score of those Filipinos. And there must be a proper dissemination of information through media, different media outlets so that they could know also their rights and their limitations for dealing with those problems about immigration. And we have so many immigration lawyers that maybe they can contribute a lot for this purpose alone. So in this case, the media plays a vital part for this kind of problem and the Philippine press club of Hawaii, Brother Carl, which I was elected secretary and Mr. Recogniz is the president and Madam Amy is one of the board of directors can help us a lot for sharing and giving advices regarding this kind of policy if ever of the newly-installed administration. Absolutely, no. Let me also say congratulations to consul general Gina Hamuralin for recently becoming the dean of the consul general. So congratulations to her. She's wonderful. I have had the good fortune of being with her in the past to have good conversations with her. I think she's extraordinary. I invite her to the show. In fact, I'll be reaching out to her. I would love to hear some thoughts from her as well. Okay, all right. So let's talk about other issues. Now, here in Hawaii, there is a large Filipino community. In fact, some say it's the largest singular, even larger than the native Hawaiians, as much as 33% of our population is Filipino. What are some of the other local concerns or issues that Filipinos are facing or trying to overcome? For me, I respect all the Filipinos here in the island of Hawaii, especially the Sakadas, who opened the door for all of us Filipinos to come and live in the paradise of milk and honey. That's the state of Hawaii. And of course, I'm very much thankful and I will give my respect to all the different races in the state of Hawaii, because they are my brothers and sisters. We are all brothers and sisters in the Alohae state. So the Filipino community should be more participative and be more cooperative. More specifically engaged? Yes, more community engaged. Well, I know that there's a huge community engagement within the Filipino community. I have had the very good fortune of being able to participate in a number of events with a number of organizations, Sonic Olenius as well. Sonic Olenius USA is a project called our president, President Jan H. De Los Santos, went to the Philippines to initiate the so-called medical and dental mission for all those indigenous families in our very own town, San Nicolas, which is a very progressive town. I'm not trying to give myself a boast for this matter, but it was evidence that there is already great advantages compared to other municipalities and cities in the north. There's been a lot of collaboration, first of all, between the various Filipino groups that exist, and there's a lot of crossover in some areas such as Mr. Alex Bergara, I know that he's been involved as well, and involved in trade missions as well as medical missions. Yes, and another leader, the president of Ilocosurian under the leadership of Mr. Danny Villaruz, also initiated this medical and medical mission, I think every year in Vigan City, Ilocosur. And of course, there is a great influx of tourists from different parts of the globe, Brother Carl, especially in our very own town, San Nicolas. They can see it as a good haven for businessmen or those who are trying to have their business prospered in the north. So San Nicolas is one of the great, the most highly recommended setting for this business endeavor. Brother Carl, yeah. We've had a number of local politicians who are from the Philippines. We've got the former governor, Ben Caetano. Yes. We have current representative, Romy Cachola. And I know that representative, Aquino. Yes. Many others. Consulman Jogi Manahan. Manahan, exactly. And so therefore there's a strong civic engagement in representation. Senator Willis Barrow. Senator Willis Barrow. Exactly. Brilliant Senator. Exactly.  Would you say that there's more work to be done as far as that is concerned from the Filipino community? That we can do more. We can engage more. We can be more engaged with... Too many things to think about. Could you say that there's more opportunity? That there's more opportunity to be engaged with Filipino community within our local community? Yes, Brother Carl, because the Filipinos have the capacity to lead. Yes. And the Filipinos composed of, if I'm not mistaken, less than 300,000 people are living in the Alohae State of Hawaii. And if they have a unity and solidarity, they can produce more Filipino leaders, even in the different chambers of the State of Hawaii. So what I am thinking about is that there must be love, humility, and recognition of the world of AIDS and everyone of us so that we can push through with this great agenda of having many Filipinos trying to serve the Filipino and other communities here in the island of Hawaii. Yes. I think that's a great sentiment. So unfortunately, we are also at the end of the show. So let me do a little round here. So again, let me say thank you to Siza for joining us today. Let me say thank you to all of the wonderful Filipino leaders that I have been able to meet over the years. Too many to list, but I would like to make sure that I've included some. Yes, Representative Aquino. Yes, Representative Cotola. I've had some good conversations with former Governor Cayetano as well, with Senator Willis Barrow, and it grows and grows from there. What I would like to leave the show with today is my great appreciation for the sense of aloha that the Filipino community has and that the leadership that they can show from that perspective, I think it's something that we could look at and try to model because, yes, they support each other, but they support their communities and they recognize their communities are more than just them. So they think about things from a perspective of how do we raise each other up? How do we continue to improve ourselves as communities and as neighbors? And I think that that's something we could look at and model. So for that, I will say thank you once again for joining us and thank you to Cesar. Thank you to Emmy Anderson. Thank you to Rose. Thank you to everyone. And we look forward to future conversations about Filipino issues here in Hawaii. So thank you for joining us. Aloha. Aloha.


My friend Pat Dengler said I gotta stop by the Insta360 booth because they've got a cool new camera so I'm here with Michael Chabon who's gonna tell us about the what is it called the Insta360 ONE R, how you doing today? I'm doing fantastic, thank you for coming over. You're pretty excited today aren't you? It's day two of CES, I still have all my energy but I'm excited because of this new camera that we just released and it's been cooking in our oven for quite a while and we're really excited to finally be able to show it off to consumers. So this isn't just a 360 camera is it? No it's actually the world's first modular action camera and it has three different lens and sensor options that are fully removable and you can interchange each of the lenses and sensors to meet the demand of whatever you want to shoot. So that's almost like an SLR being able to change lenses. We took a lot of notes from what the DSLR market has proven over the years and what we've realized is for a photographer or videographer there's never gonna be one camera and lens combination that can suit all of your shooting needs. So what we're doing is we're giving our users options without having to buy additional camera bodies or lug around a ton of gear that they otherwise wouldn't be able to do. Oh okay, okay so why don't you describe what you have in your hands here? Sure, so what I have here is the base model of the Insta360 ONE R and it comes with three modules. It has a bottom mounted battery that clicks on and off and it's red so it looks cool. It is red, yeah it's our first red trimmed camera and then the other two modules basically separate you just pull them apart and we have the control module that has a built-in touchscreen so you can select all of your settings directly on the camera without having to use the app if you don't want to. And then the other piece is the lens and sensor module. So for the 360 version it shoots up to 5.7K resolution similar to our ONE X camera but with this it's been fully upgraded in terms of the algorithm that goes into the computations of the image quality. So sewing the stitching the two halves together? Well essentially the stitching is, I mean that's our bread and butter, we're fantastic at our stitching and that's what elevates our brand above the other 360 cameras but with this you're able to record H.265 and you're going to be able to output ProRes from this camera as well. So it blurs the lines between consumer ease of use and prosumer and professional power that folks need to actually monetize off of it. And so what he's holding in his hand are two 1-inch cubes they look like. The one is the lens and sensor combined right into one cube and then the other side is where the touch screen is. Yes so what happens is once you combine all three pieces together the battery charges the control module which then shares power to the camera module. Okay, okay so by the way he's pulling these apart and sticking them together very easily it's not like some big cumbersome latching things together he just shoves them together right? Exactly and so let me show you this next one. So what we realized is you know we obviously started in the 360 world. Right after I said it was easy.  So well it doesn't matter right so here's one cool thing. You can create a traditional action camera with the screen facing behind you or you can take this lens and you can flip it the other way and you can have a vlogging camera. Oh wow that is really cool so now the lens you just attached that's no longer now we are talking 360 right you've added a different module. This is a fixed angle 4k60 lens that is an equivalent of about a 16 and a half millimeter so it's a it's a wide lens that you can interchange on and off and what we realized was 360 shooting is great but there's not always going to be a need to shoot everything in 360 so for those moments where where you you don't want 360 you can pop on this lens and shoot standard 4k60 content or you can go 4k30 24 frames you can you can yeah you explain like if you're if you're skiing you don't need to see the back of your shirt while you're recording the skiing so why have 360? Exactly exactly and then the uh the kind of hero piece and all of this the thing that we're the most excited about is the third module and let me hold some lenses there oh I got it it's got I've been doing this all day so with the third module uh this is a uh the first collaboration we've had with Leica. Leica co-engineered this lens and and the really unique thing about this is it's the world's first one inch sensor for an action camera. One inch sensor that's a lot of light. So and this is tiny I mean you can you can I'll put this the pieces together and you can feel it it weighs about 150 grams total and uh and that's and that will shoot up to 5.3 k resolution fixed angle from that lens. Wow so what what is the angle on that? So this uh this one is about a 14 and a half millimeter equivalent so it's also really wide. Oh wow wow that is and it's cool looking too. These three modules together you're right this doesn't weigh hardly anything and that's a small package that makes my uh micro for a third's camera look massive. And and what's what's really cool about this camera is the ecosystem that we're building around it so if you can see here on the camera there's a screw on and off lens protector so the first thing that always gets damaged with action cameras in 360 are the lenses. Oh yeah yep yep we had to get a new one because it had a scratch on it. Exactly and having these ridges on here allows us in the future to create filter options and attachable lenses and more pieces that will customize your your camera set. And and the other thing about the engineering of this camera is that uh we realized um if we create a modular setup folks at home will actually be more cost effective because they don't need to upgrade their camera body every year when a new one comes out and we can put out additional modules much faster than producing a completely new camera. Oh yeah yeah and then you get you'd have to think up a new camera model number and it'd be hard and confusing. Yeah right we're just you know we're saving our marketing team time essentially so but this is just these are just the hardware features and what's really amazing about this camera is the power that's packed into our app. So our app has always been kind of our hero statement the ease of use of a 360 camera being able to edit everything in reframe and share it all through the app having all these auto editing functions and we've taken that and we've applied it to this camera so one really cool feature that we have is uh is called auto frame and and again a world we like to be worlds first at doing these types of things but with auto frame uh this is our way of allowing users to automatically reframe 360 footage into flat 2d content. Okay so that's so when you're posting it somewhere you've got a you've got a flat frame you could show that is just the the direction that makes sense. Exactly yeah you take the best angles and moments from your 360 video and you just post that and and you know at at its core the advantage of having 360 footage for for regular flat content is you have a limitless amount of ways that you can edit your content and share it so one clip can be used so many so many different times. Now does it tell the user don't stand on the opposite side of the pretty thing they're trying to show so they're uh they do it right? It doesn't it doesn't show that but there are some really great tips available in the app that will that will help folks who don't have.  Talk to your AI team about that one. Well noted we'll uh we'll put in the feature request today thank you. Absolutely uh so uh is this available today? This is available for pre-order today and it will start shipping in about a week or two and there's three different versions of it now the really great part is uh there's a twin edition available so for folks at home who are deciding between purchasing a 360 camera or a traditional action camera but don't want to buy both uh you can now get two for the price of one essentially so the twin edition will include the the standard 4k wide angle module and the 360 module along with the core and the battery all for about four hundred and seventy nine dollars which is actually less than the price of a of a gopro max their 360 camera. That's actually not bad at all now how about this fancy pants uh Leica the Leica lens that's where you start to sell on a kidney i'm guessing well it's not bad actually so we're we love to give value back to our customers at the end of the day right so the Leica module will be available separately for purchase for two hundred ninety nine dollars. Okay not a whole kidney. Not a whole kidney. That's not bad at all really when you think about what you're getting with that. This is a great set of stuff i know you've got a million more things to tell me but i'm gonna cut you off Michael this is uh this has been really cool so the website is insta360.com. Yes www.insta360.com or you can go to any of our social pages at insta360 to check out some of our cool content and learn more about the features. Very good thank you Michael this is fantastic. Thank you very much.


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Soon soon said that wrong didn't I? I've been playing with sims since I was a teenager and yes I'm gonna call myself a sim player now um do you mind Pester? But I was thinking like what would it be like if I painted a masterpiece from the sims and that's what this video is so I'm gonna play a little bit of the sims and get my sim up to be master level somehow of a painter and uh see if I can accomplish in the sims what I have in my life that's a joke don't get me in the comments let's see how it goes oh that's that low let's see how it goes okay time to be a real gamer and put my headphones on that's right I am I'm a gamer so deal with it we know what we're here to do though so let's just get into it I skip the tutorial I don't need the tutorial are you crazy okay I took the quiz and um well I don't quite think that this is what my character should be so obviously the aspirations are going to be creativity because um that's what we're here for lads what's this what's this I don't need the tutorial are you crazy I just need to be creative genius and romantic or gloomy I guess fits like the the starving artist kind of personality there so let's do that first name average oh I'm not saying artist I need to make her look a little bit like me so this is a little bit different oh look there we go that's me sort of let's play I didn't do the clothes or anything because she's not gonna have any social life basically that's how it is you want to be an artist you want to be professional professional you need to like forget everyone and everything and food and money and life I'm just kidding okay so where are we gonna live oh my gosh glimmer brook looks pretty fabulous but she's gonna be an artist she has to be in like the city I think there's absolutely nothing here okay let's go a small little place that cost me two thousand simoleons I am here I am here right let's build a little area and by area I mean her painting dungeon the music is quite fitting actually for right now oh my god I didn't mean to do that we're going basic B for this okay guys because she's gonna decorate the house with her artwork so for everything else it's just gonna be like it doesn't even matter because she's not gonna see it she's gonna be working too hard need some lights as well because lights are very important for the artist there it is baby that's what we need we can upgrade this all of course when we become a famous artist and the money is flowing okay so don't worry guys is that all I need I feel like I'm forgetting something major it doesn't matter because we're going straight to work lads we're going straight to it we're gonna go in with a small first all right this buckle up guys because this is pretty much what we're doing the whole time unless she wants to make friends and then I don't know what I'm gonna do because how do you make friends impossible get off your foot oh she's done it she's done it she's made her first painting and we're gonna create a copy sure and then we're gonna sell to collector oh yeah already make already 51 dollars that is the Sims is lying to you that is not how it works we're gonna make another painting we're gonna go for medium this time I don't know what happened to my where's my inventory poor quality poor how dare you this is an original sim the artist the average artist painting let me peek let me peek let's do it in a quick time time lapse all right she's done it you know what that this is kind of on my level though so I I'm not you know let's frame it let's move it it's beautiful it's absolutely beautiful I I'm upset that people think that this is how poor quality still and yet it sells for 80 87 simoleons where you think you're going you're going nowhere me we're painting forever we don't have a life level up yes this is the worst painting I've ever seen in my life sell this because I don't really need another sleep paralysis demon watching me once asleep so we sold that one on to the next one what's it gonna be all of these are trash though okay she's gonna have to paint 10 000 paintings before she becomes an expert if you've heard that thing so trash bin it we want the next one we're moving on we need to get to the top look okay selling it we're selling it I don't know where she thinks she can go to the toilet it's not how it works paint from reference paint from reference what's my reference what what reference yes yes it is funny what reference is that okay well you know what we're being too critical she is a beginner maybe maybe that's how she sees it but we are selling that that's gone that's instantly gone let's do a classic painting milestone average has completed I didn't read that that was too quickly gone I completed something so winner chicken dinner kind of thing oh I quite like this one she keeps going to the toilet absolutely not appropriate where can I put this over the window perfect I pop reference let's do a pot painting no you don't get to eat that's not how things work you have to make kind of a painting and then you can eat level four already I mean maybe the next levels will be a little bit more difficult but oh okay you can eat some yogurt fine spoil yourself um so for reference I will be copying one of these paintings but more the actual like well the whole point of the video is that I'm going to try and be like better or like on the same level at least hopefully at least set myself up there haven't I foreshadowing oh no the socials going down and nobody came out my house so do I even want friends oh wait there's someone there fine let's go speak to him no pause the game funny introduction because that's who we be stop painting for once I want you to stop painting introduce yourself introduce yourself stop painting okay good did she just did she just fought at him talk about dreams okay because I'm inspired so I love a proposed crazy scheme describe idea I'm gonna be one of these people that talks nothing oh he's gone probably because we were boring as because all we talked about was painting please subscribe okay she needs to sleep for a bit but whatever fine we won't call her lazy because she has basic needs but so demanding have a ham and cheese sandwich and geez good okay oh she's sad why are you sad doesn't make any sense oh gloomy I guess fits like the the starving artist kind of personality kick so much effort now go resume the painting how was the social down again I just spoke to someone like two days ago we need to grind get on with it although that painting is a piece of garbage I don't know where her inspiration was for that but it's nothing compared to our original small classic painting of the apple and melon I'm gonna put it right I know where this belongs like here I feel like that is a perfect place for it all right hurry up we haven't got all day okay the social is going down and it's going down fast we haven't got time for that we haven't got time for the nonsense or friendship this painting again not sure about it not I hope that I don't have to paint something like that because I don't like it let's go for realism no you know what my favorite is impressionism so I said do a large one and she did a small one she's trying to fight me okay classic painting large come on we've got this in us we're inspired for some reason we're constantly inspired I don't know why because she's literally just living in this small studio space and not seeing anyone hardly eating hardly sleeping I've got a level up maybe this is the way forward just lock yourself up oh wait that already happened I'm gonna hang that one on the wall because I'm gonna at the end hang up all the ones that I like and then we're gonna try and like paint the same one don't okay yeah come over dweeb why have I got the yogurt in my inventory can I please put this on the why why can't it go above my bed okay right up there that's a really great place oh my god this guy has tribal tattoos do we really want to be do we really want to be making friends with this absolute lad do not be in front of your new friend embarrass us like that tell unbelievable story and then get back to painting confident painting perfect okay he's gonna watch me painting there is the actual perfect solution for my problems because look at our social going right up three hours baby three hours three arrows baby what the f**k is this what is this we're gonna frame it and we're gonna put it on the wall why why have I gone over here I don't know why the music's so creepy painter career has begun I'm painter I'm a painter so now okay performance is average hey don't do that get back to painting wait is this finished oh that's pretty cool actually and it's gone I was gonna show you guys but it's gone the moment my job is a palette cleaner not quite sure how that makes you like get better as an artist but okay it's again it's not impressionism though is it it's abstract so I'm gonna put that one on the wall though because it's pretty I maybe I need a sink where she gone she's gone to work okay fair enough let's build her a sink while she's gone um realism oh my god don't get over me obsessed right yeah it's just come in don't worry not rude or anything why have I got two of these quality poor how dare you this is a work of art I have been working on this for at least 10 minutes all right we need to get on with this stop talking to your friend and keep printing oh my gosh she's got too many basic needs although it's done guys quite handy because he is just like popping around to speak to me that's a good friend what the hell is this I feel like her paintings are getting worse honestly like what is this how is that realism didn't I select realism okay we're gonna grind now we're gonna grind now she's hungry again well you can eat all the food in your pockets because just eat your eat your delicious pocket sandwich yeah I didn't think that was gonna be good cook something garden salad single serving go on you need some salad in your do I need like another counter because I I will do it don't threaten me I'll do it right by the door beautiful I was like oh it's a cute cat but I thought it was a bear and I was also like what's this situation with the the extra foot that is horrendous that is going that is going away from me sell to collector look at this guy freaking stalker I'm not in me go away she needs a toilet brilliant can you not just go to the toilet at your work is it illegal are you gonna get fired like okay she did she did nothing never mind she's back sell this piece of shims being very critical when I also have to paint in a minute so yeah maybe I shouldn't be that critical yeah she's got a promotion art book collector really it's really pushing me towards becoming a painter oh no don't embrace cooking we don't have time this one's kind of cool but I don't like it I'm sorry we already have a friend and his name is Don Lofario and you can't be our friend because we don't have room in our lives for more than one friend because he's a freaking stalker come on get a painting we don't have time for this I should probably move the the easel so we can actually see what she's doing a little bit better he's feeling flirty go away don't we ain't interested we like you as a friend at best maybe not even that you are a bit irritating this on the wall I need more room for my painting so I'm gonna make a little gallery area okay so far these are the options not this these two are because I grew attached to them okay I've got some goodness here this will help me become better focus potion no I don't want flirty potion confident potion what else instant hygiene is good because then that means I don't have to waste time she loves painting look her face she just loves it actually for working one hour oh just gets in the way of my career my career you know so so far we've got these as options I quite like this one this one's cool I think my favorite so far is this one though because it's more like what I like you can't really see it because it's super dark so let's just change that oh I know why it's dark because you haven't put windows in your new area now let's just make sure everyone can see exactly what I'm doing inside my house and oh good I think this one would be cool to paint but let's see let's see it's talking absolute rubbish isn't it yeah where's my pizza I'm hungry oh I haven't ordered the pizza too easy painting typical is my pizza coming did you order it I'm not sure where's my pizza okay well my pizza isn't arriving so I am putting it down to making something myself which is unfortunate to say the least this again really this line again you're joking me oh I like this oh it's a masterpiece okay awesome there we go there's a masterpiece let's frame it we made it guys we did a masterpiece so I think what I'm gonna do is paint this one try and recreate this in real life and see how I do this is apparently a Sims masterpiece and I do quite like it because it's like an impressionistic painting and it's really cool so let's get down to it let's go over to my canvas and start painting yes okay guys it is now the next day and I'm ready to paint my sim masterpiece and I'm hoping that it grows okay first of all I have my painting here of the sims image and I'll put like a reference there for you guys so you can see what I'm doing and I'm gonna prep my canvas first so I'm just going to put on the wedges to help stretch out the the actual material of the canvas so what we don't want is the blazing white of this canvas like showing through the colors because that will affect overall how this presents to us so I'm using my jelly gouache for this painting and underneath I think there's a bit of a yellow tinge to this painting from what I can see in this sims image so I'm going to just do like a wash of like yellowy to take away from the white a little bit my canvas is more or less stained now so I'm just going to start by adding color or marking out shapes that are similar to the shapes on the actual image from the sims one I think like the sims one it might be it might be actually a real painting because sometimes they do do that with like masterpieces but I'm going to look that up right now but yeah I'm just going to like mark out shapes where I think they are in the painting so we've got like this dark distance here and then we've got like the water here and then we've got like a boat here two boats then we've got like a figure here right so I'm just marking out lightly sort of lightly where everything might be so we've got that figure and then this sort of coming around here like the walkway I'm guessing it is a walkway because I see like a promenade and then I see like fires here right so I'm gonna just outline where the yellow is a little bit like in opposite areas so this is where the light's gonna come so we don't want to do it too dark there although it doesn't matter because this is gouache so but yeah I can definitely see where the water begins there's like a big a definite line there right of this dark blue where the light is not hitting the ocean and then it comes down quite like a block here and it continues up here into the distance where everything is sort of you get the idea that everything is going this way into the distance so the light is more it's greater here because it's closer to us whereas when it's going into the distance it kind of fades a little bit in this painting what's really interesting about the sims one is it's got like patchy areas where the light is and I'm thinking that somebody has just like done like a photoshop filter on the real painting so I'm just going to paint all the areas that I think on the night sky and actually the fires are more like here this is really satisfying because I haven't done like a painting on a canvas in so long so this is actually really like fun for me so I'm really glad that I started to do this video so this is like my interpretation of an interpretation of a painting so that's kind of interesting actually like what what's it going to turn out was and at the end I'll probably look at the original painting I think it must be an original painting I'm gonna look it up okay so funnily enough it's actually an instant van go painting which I did not realize until I looked it up and I was like yeah duh when I was looking at this I was a little bit like this reminds me a bit of van go and then I was like maybe this is based on the painting duh well yeah it's based on Vincent van Gogh's story night at the road I think I'm not sure how you pronounce that but yes that's what I'm painting right now so don't I look clever so it's good to know that I am painting a real thing then I can like show you guys a comparison at the end but yeah pretty funny pretty funny I forgot when everything's a little bit watery everything like seeps down on a canvas it's quite cool actually painting um the sins version of this because it has really been like broken down into this like super simple generic shapes of the painting so it's like being broken down into these really like defined areas of color so it's actually quite fun to copy what I see there and try and do the same sort of shape so I think it's like made it a bit easier so it's sort of like paint by numbers but sim style because to be fair I am painting the sims version I'm not actually trying to paint the van go version that I didn't even know was what it was until now sometimes I like to mix the paint on the canvas makes a quite satisfying color so I've got like the purple and the dark blue here and I'm just mixing it on to the canvas it's more fun little kitten squeaks she wants attention hello camera hello my mochi she's super cute nice I've kind of been liking it so far what do you guys think I'm gonna change my water and then let this dry and work on a bit of the lighter shades of in the piece from now on we've got a lot of oranges coming in because there's like fires in the distance and then stars here so we want to like work on that so the fact that we've got the solid darks down really helps us calculate where the light is going to go and where the figure is so I've just worked in like block shapes basically of all the colors and then I'm gonna see what happens to change my water with this dry see you in a second and we're back as you can see some bits are still a little bit wet because we're shiny that means that it's still wet but I don't care I'm going back in and I'm excited to work on this so I'm just going for it I want to add some like oranges now just to like start the process of seeing where they are on the page one up here right there's one here I feel like this is way too dark I mean I'm gonna go where I had the idea and intention to go so it's nice and brown now fire here fire here and then suddenly they get like smaller that was a go down into the distance there then we've got like the reflection which is like here for each of them so I'm just like doing really basic outlines of where just to bear in mind where everything is one thing I really like about Van Gogh is that at the time papers and things like that to paint on were really expensive so the fact that he still went along and did what he wanted to do despite the fact that no one liked it at the time shows you that he had complete bravery in his work and he did it just because he loved to do it so I think that's one of the reasons that he's very popular because he just did what he wanted and that's like impressive considering that nobody you know like enjoyed his work he was getting harsh criticism so I think that's something that really resonated with me when I was a young artist trying out you know just starting out I was like okay so there's this person who never received any recognition for his beautiful paintings at the time they still went and did them anyway because he loved to paint and that's something that stuck with me it's like just because if somebody doesn't like what you're doing that's not your issue like as long as you're enjoying what you're doing that's the important thing right really enjoying the process of this painting it's like something that I haven't really done for ages is like painting on a canvas like I said so it's like really interesting to see if I'm like any better at it if that makes sense since the last time that I painted on a canvas I think I am it's quite interesting I really want to do more larger scale painting I think the key to like van Gogh style is just lots of like expressive lines and I think that this is kind of I'm kind of doing it despite the fact that I have got like this sort of paint by numbers aspect to it from the Sims it's kind of like deconstructing an image and then trying to reconstruct it again in terms of like what I can see on this image from the Sims image like I know roughly it realistically probably in real life like this doesn't really look like a proper van Gogh or whatever but I think I'm getting pretty close to what the Sims image looks like so I'm pretty pleased with that I just need to add like a few more details here and there and I think I'm gonna say that this is done but yeah just a few more things to do I think like up here I put these stars way too close together and there's sort of like a darkness between them so I want to create that space a bit better definitely left too much space on this side of the canvas compared to like what is actually there in this original piece in the sim painting but sure it doesn't matter too much okay so I think I'm going to call it there what do you guys think I really enjoyed doing this painting and I think this video is really fun and I hope that you guys enjoy it too I'm just going to show you some cool shots of this image whilst I do would like to remind everybody that I have my comic out on Etsy and also I have a patreon down in the link in the description if you haven't seen it please please check it out thank you very much thank you and yeah so this is the final painting and it really had fun with playing with the textures and the shapes and just like pushing on paint and pushing it around and just expressing myself and with not too much pressure I said recently that I was doing a lot of fan art because it helps take the stress away from trying to use the imagination side of things and then you can focus more on like practicing your technique and I've been doing that a lot recently so this was like a good example of that where I'm copying something because I'm practicing my technique and I didn't have to think too much of where things are going in my head so it was like easier to just explore that and obviously don't always do that because you've got to make your own work but it's always good to take a step back and look at some other stuff or draw inspiration from anything and even the Sims the video game could be a good source of inspiration for you maybe please like and subscribe to this channel and that would be super awesome of you and I hope that you guys enjoyed this so I will see you next time bye