I've been diagnosed twice with narcissistic personality disorder and once with borderline psychopathy and I have paid the ultimate price for these all-pervasive cancers of the soul. I have lost fortunes, family and everything else one can lose, reputation and so on several times. I've added time in jail for securities fraud and so on. Are you a narcissist? Have you or are you currently dating a narcissist? What about psychopaths? Ever meet a charming, well-spoken person but feel like there's something not quite right about them? The narcissist acts out and ruins everything and everyone around him most specifically himself. So this is the danger in narcissism because narcissists are great actors.  This is the danger. They are stealthy and I would beg to differ with you that they are human and technically as far as biology goes, they are human but not as far as their psychology goes. As far as the psychology of the narcissist goes, the narcissist is an alien, an extraterrestrial on earth. Today on the Shy Man's Dating School podcast series, we delve into the deeply dark and disturbing world of narcissism. Stephen Davis speaks with Sam Vaknen, a twice-diagnosed cerebral narcissist who authored the book Malignant Self-Love. Today, they speak about the traits of narcissists and psychopaths and about the women who date them. So first of all, there is the issue of the narcissist tends to blame his mistakes, failures on others. The world is guilty. Everyone is guilty. Everyone is responsible for what's happening to the narcissist except himself. He never takes responsibility. The narcissist is very eager. If you date a narcissist, he pushes you to get married on the second date, planning on having children on the first date and he immediately tells you that you have the love of his life. So stay tuned to the Shy Man's Dating School podcast series where today we find out, are you a narcissist? I'm fascinated by human behavior and I'm clear that there's just so many personality types, points of view, just ways people are that I'm not aware of or I've never experienced myself or I experienced, but I don't know that's what it is. You've clearly researched this, investigated it, organized thoughts about it. I'd love to find out about your journey to the place where you are now as a resource. Now you're a resource for that. It's a pretty straightforward arrow in my case. I've been diagnosed twice with narcissistic personality disorder and once with borderline psychopathy and I have paid the ultimate price for these all pervasive cancers of the soul. I have lost fortunes, family and everything else one can lose, reputation and so on several times. I've added time in jail for securities fraud and so on. So having hit rock bottom several times, having hit rock bottom and bounce and then hit rock bottom and bounce, I decided that I would like to discover the laws of physics that regulate this bouncing motion. And what I came across was the general topic of personality disorders. In 1995 when I embarked on my path of self-discovery, there was no awareness of pathological narcissism. It was an obscure sub-sub-subfield which had been neglected for decades. Freud, Ziegman Freud was the first to coin the term narcissism in 1916 and then there were sporadic studies in the early to mid-70s and that's more or less it. No one has paid attention to pathological narcissism, definitely not on the scale that it is being studied today. It's a cottage industry and a major driver of psychological research in faculties and universities across the globe, especially in the United States. But at that time there was nothing, absolutely nothing. Consequently, I had to essentially invent the whole field single-handed. I have written a book in 1995, which was the first book to describe and coin the phrase narcissistic abuse. I also had to come up with a whole language. Most of the language used today to describe and tackle this extremely untoward phenomenon was invented by me in the mid-90s, so narcissistic supply, somatic narcissists, cerebral narcissists. They all turned ahead to invent as I was plowing along into this terra incognita. But ultimately, after a journey of several years, I thought that I have reached a modicum of self-awareness and self-revelation and then I branched out. I established support groups online. Well over 100,000 people joined within the first two years, which was, yeah, it indicated, it was an indicator of how serious and how ubiquitous the problem was. Were you shocked by the number? Yeah, very much so. I thought I was alone. That characterizes many mentally ill people. They think they're alone. Absolutely. And then there was this whole thing of victims of narcissistic abuse. So by now, I think narcissism is a well-established clinical phenomenon as well as a well-understood path towards abuse, violence, and aggression in myriad forms. That's how I got into this mess. Wow, that must have been really pioneering work. Must have felt like you were doing it alone. Yeah, for a while I have been alone, completely alone. But then there was an avalanche of scholars, self-styled scholars, experts, victims, ex-victims, would-be victims, wannabe victims. Narcissists and psychopaths thrilled to discover that there's a name and a label and a handle to what's happening to them. And then there was the narcissism pride movement. So today you can find narcissists and psychopaths online saying we are the next evolutionary stage.  That's why we feel superior, hence the source of our arrogance and haughtiness, because we really are. You have manifestations of the study of narcissism, which are both benign and cancerous, as is the case for every other social movement or phenomenon. And it probably lets you know that it's reached a certain degree of success or... Oh, yeah, you can't open television today. You can't watch a movie. You can't watch a crime serial. You can't watch a police procedural where the word narcissism doesn't crop up. People use narcissism as a pejorative term. They hurl narcissism.  Today narcissism is really, in a way, the name of the game. But more seriously, it is beginning to be thought of, pathological narcissism is beginning to be thought of as the root cause of many other, either two ostensibly unrelated mental health disorders. So we're beginning to see a common root for all these disorders, especially what used to be called cluster B disorders, which means antisocial, borderline, narcissistic, histrionic. But also other types of, for instance, there is a very close behavioral, at least, match between aspergers, autistic spectrum disorders, and narcissism. There are bipolar disorder, especially the manic phase, which resemble narcissism very very closely. And generalized anxiety disorder also is.  Narcissism is our core. That's who we are. It's about self-esteem, self-worth, self-confidence. And in short, it's a pathology of the self. So if the self is involved in everything, and in every mental health disorder. Can you tell me what it's like to have this?  It sounds like it. It's a self-defeating, self-destructive disorder in a variety of ways. It impacts on one's ability to act in the world and on the world. It affects gravely and irreversibly and ineluctably interpersonal disorders, interpersonal relationships. All forms of intimacy, the ability to collaborate with other people in teamwork, the ability to function, and so on and so forth. Mind you, there are functional narcissists and functional psychopaths. And they for a while make it to the pinnacle, they are the pillars of the community and they become everything from your local parish priest to the president of the United States. But then they self-impload, then they self-destruct. And depending on the level they have attained, depending on their accomplishments, they take with them numerous people.  But if you're the president of the United States, you take the whole nation with you. One thing is inevitable and unavoidable, and that is the self-implosion. So for a while, a narcissist for a while, when I say while, it could be decades. Narcissists can be totally functional and give the outward impression of having made it. As stress is accumulating, the narcissist acts out, lashes out, implodes, explodes and ruins everything and everyone around him, most specifically himself. So this is the danger in narcissism because narcissists are great actors. They have thespian skills.  This is the danger. They are stealthy. They're all around and they're stealthy. And I would beg to differ with you that they are human.  But not as far as their psychology goes. As far as the psychology of the narcissist goes, the narcissist is an alien, an extraterrestrial on earth, a form of artificial intelligence. And that is because the narcissist lacks the basic machinery, the basic apparatus of which is required in order to qualify as a human being. Narcissists have no empathy. Narcissists have no emotions or no access to emotions. Narcissists are robotic because they are like cruise missiles. They home in on narcissistic supply, attention, adulation, admiration, being feared. They are more like drag addicts. They are junkies. But junkies who are also devoid of major dimensions of what it means to be human. So it's a very frightening phenomenon actually. It's a home movie. It's a nightmarish proposition. It's not like, you know, other things, like bipolar, bipolar, you're up, you're down. It's a human experience to be bipolar, to be depressed, be manic. It's a human experience even to be schizophrenic or schizophrenic paranoid. It's human to be paranoid from time to time, all of us are paranoid.  It is not human to be a psychopath. It is outside the realm and the spectrum of human experience. And the same goes for a narcissist. You never looked at it that way, but that really makes sense. Before I called you, I thought about how I haven't, I would say I haven't come across many narcissists or psychopaths, probably in business more than anywhere else. But I'm getting the sense that I'm just not aware of it. Across them, I'm just not aware of it. Yeah, you're definitely coming across them. Statistically speaking, 1% of all the population are narcissistic or psychopathic. So you must have come across several in your lifetime. For sure. But I think the statistics are grossly underestimated because narcissists and psychopaths do not subject themselves to rigorous testing, let alone treatment. Or it's safer to think that something like, I don't know what, 5%, 7% of the population have pronounced narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies. Now you're right though that narcissists tend to gravitate towards specific profession where they can wield power when they can make money, when they can garner adulation and admiration. So you are more likely to find narcissists in show business, among the clergy, in law enforcement, in the judiciary, in politics. So you're more likely to find narcissists where narcissistic supply is more plentiful. So they gravitate to these professions. And so your statement that you mostly have come across them in a business environment strikes me as true and correct. How would I, if I wanted to increase my awareness so that I was more able to identify that trait in people, is there a particular thing I would look for? If you are sensitized and aware, you can spot them on the first date. If you are not, it would take you a decade. Education, education, education is very, very important. And since sensitization and exposure to other people's experiences and to literature online and offline, these are critical. Otherwise, it's very easy not to spot a narcissist or a psychopath until it's way, way too late. I can give you a few markers if you wish. So first of all, there is the issue of what we call alloplastic defenses. The narcissist tends to blame his mistakes, failures, and so on, on others. The world is guilty. His boss is guilty. The company is guilty. His family is guilty. Everyone is guilty. Everyone is responsible for what's happening to the narcissist except himself. He never takes responsibility. And we call this an external locus of control. It's like the narcissist's life is controlled from the outside. The next thing is, narcissists are very hypersensitive. They pick a fight. They feel constantly slighted, injured, insulted. They're hyper-vigilant, so they are on guard.  They tend to treat weak people, animals, sick people, and children impatiently and cruelly. They're very cruel.  They usually have a history of aggression and violence, sometimes bordering on the criminal and sometimes criminal. So violent offenses, battering, domestic violence, and so on is very common among narcissists and psychopaths. At the very least, they would be verbally, verbally violent, verbally abusive. So they would use a vile language infused with expletives, threats, and the general impression would be hostility, debt of hostility. A narcissist is very eager. If you date a narcissist, he pushes you to get married on the second date, and he's planning on having children on the first date, and he immediately tells you that you have the love of his life. And he's pressing you for exclusivity, for instant intimacy, and almost rapes you and acts jealous. And this is incommensurate with the time lapse, like it happens on the first or second date. So they're very possessive and very eager. And then there's the issue of boundaries and privacy. Narcissists and psychopaths do not recognize other people's boundaries and privacy.  They select from the menu. They choose which movie you're going to see. They never consult you. They disrespect you. They treat you as an object or an instrument of gratification, you know. They go through your personal belonging while waiting for you. They text you or phone you multiple times and so on and so forth. It's just you have the increasingly distinct feeling that you don't really exist, that the narcissist sees through you, that you're transparent. And then the narcissists and psychopaths are controlled freaks. So they must control the situation and you compulsively. So they insist to ride, if you date a narcissist, she would insist to ride in her car. She would hold on to the car keys. She would hold on to the money, to the theta tickets, to the air tickets, to your bag. She would disapprove if you stay away for too long. I don't know. You go to the loo. She would interrogate you when you return. So they're very insecure actually. So they compensate for that by being controlled freaks. And they make it very clear that in future you would need their permission to do things, even innocuous things like meeting your friends or visiting with your family. They would tend to isolate you from the very, very beginning. So they would disparage your friends. They would criticize your friends. They would tell you that, you know, they're your friends are beneath you. They, you deserve better. And they would try to isolate you from your family. And finally, they usually act in a patronizing, haughty, condescending manner. They criticize you often. They emphasize your smallest, minutest faults. They devalue you. They exaggerate. They also, on the one hand, so it's a pendulum. It's called idealization, devaluation.  They idealize you because by idealizing you, they are idealizing and aggrandizing themselves, you know.  And this pendulum is very, very telling.  And so this pendulum movement, these fluctuations, are very, very telling. This is a very partial list. But, you know, even if you implement this list, you're likely to support narcissistic cycle.  And initially, they liked all the attention. They liked how important they were to the other person. They liked that the other person kind of controlled, you know, or led the relationship. And then it gets really volatile with that swing back and forth between the verbal abuse and the making up. Narcissists and psychopaths fulfill deep emotional needs in their partners. The bonding is not accidental. I mean, many women would fall for a narcissist or a psychopath on a first date because they're very charming and they home in on you. They are like lasers, you know, you are suddenly the center of the universe. They're the most amazing and thrilling and fascinating being. And so it's very flattering and it's very difficult to resist. So many a woman would fall for a narcissist. But very few would remain with a narcissist after a certain, you know, and those who remain have a very, have a highly specific psychological profile. Those who tolerate the abuse and even welcome it, those who settle in and adopt themselves to the narcissist, these specific needs and requirements, those women have a highly specific psychological profile. Before we continue, I wanna make clear that 75% of all diagnosed narcissists are male, but 25% of all diagnosed narcissists are female. So we do have women narcissists, female narcissists. It's not an exclusive preserve of men. But throughout this conversation, I would tend to use the male pronoun because most narcissists are men and definitely most abusers are men, physical abusers and so on. You know, there is a weeding out process. There's a filtering process. The vast, I mean, women or women would be delighted on a first or second date with a narcissist and the vast majority of women would give up on a narcissist or a psychopath by the fifth date because the emanations are there, the feeling that something is not right, that, you know, something doesn't click, that there is something wrong, that this person is wrongly put together, that the feeling of fakeness, the feeling that it's a forged proximity of a human being, but not really a human being. And there was an expert, a robotics expert in Japan. His field was robotics, so he's an expert in robots. And he invented the concept of uncanny valley. He said that as robots become more and more similar to humans, they are likely to provoke feelings of unease and discomfort in their environment because everyone knows they're robots and yet they are so human. And this discrepancy between human-like robots and the underlying steel and aluminum, this discrepancy is what he called the uncanny valley. And some narcissists and psychopaths provoke the same ill-at-ease discomforture in people. Whenever you meet a psychopath or a narcissist, you keep, there's a dialogue, you keep having an internal dialogue which says, this guy looks so charming, so intelligent, so amazing, what's wrong with him? Why do I feel that something's wrong with him? And you can't put your finger on it, but you know that something's wrong with this guy. So healthy psychologically and mentally healthy women would usually disengage after a while. But there is a minority and it's not in substantial minority of women who would actually latch on to the narcissists. And these women are usually co-dependents. Some of them are narcissists themselves, something called covert narcissism or inverted narcissism. And so the psychological profile of this type of intimate partner of a narcissist is also pathologic in effect, long-term path. But can you describe any more of what their pathology is, the long-term part? Yeah, well, to be a long-term, to serve, and I'm using the word serve judiciously, you know, to serve as the long-term partner of a narcissist, you must have a very efficient or distorted grasp of yourself and of reality. You must have what we call in psychology, cognitive distortion, which consists of belittling and demeaning yourself while aggrandizing and adoring the narcissist. Partner is placing yourself as the long-term partner, mind you. Placing yourself essentially in the position of an eternal victim. She's undeserving. She's punishable. She's a scapegoat. And it's this kind of person, it's very important for her to appear moral, sacrificial, victimized. She's, many of these women are not even aware of these predicaments. They perceive the narcissists as someone deserving of their sacrifice because he's superior in so many ways, intellectually, emotionally, morally, professionally, financially. But they are professional victims. And then we have another type of long-term partner, the kind of partner which maintains a symbiotic relationship with the narcissist. She's totally dependent on the narcissist. Sometimes as a source of supply, narcissistic or masochistic supply, near attention. So this kind of partner is a codependent. She suffers from severe abandonment, anxiety. She has very dysfunctional attachment and bonding styles. She's clinging. She's needy. And in the narcissist, she finds this partner that can keep her on her toes, if you wish, that can, because this kind of partner is also a drama queen. She's adrenaline junkie. She's addicted to the ups and downs. She loves these. And whenever she is with a normal person, a non-narcissist, she would find this kind of partner boring, black and white. The narcissist is the technique color eruption in her life. It gives her life color and meaning. It's a dance macabre. It's a tango of two. One last thing that is important to understand, that it is not true, that the common myth that no one survives the narcissist. It's not true. They are very, many narcissists have very stable relationships with their intimate partners. Only it's a match of pathologies. It's simply one pathology meets another, and then they bond. And the bond is very strong and very meaningful to both parties and survives for decades. But it's still a pathological bond that is functional. So many narcissists are stable in their marriage and it's not true that all narcissists end up being divorced and abandoned. It's absolutely, it's a myth. They find a good fit. Yeah, they find the lead, exactly. To me, it seems that some of the traits of the psychopath are similar to the traits of someone who's really good at picking up women, who's a player, who has all that charming, no empathy type of personality. Do you, am I off base and naive on that? No, I wouldn't say that you're off base and naive. I would make two, I would make two pertinent observation. One, the dating scene, the adult dating scene, let's say 40s and 50s. 40 and 50 year olds dating scene is a negative filter. It is not representative of the whole population. This is a self-selecting group. This is a group of people who have failed in their relationship, their divorce, they've never been married. This, the people on the dating scene are not a representative sample. Most of the people on the dating scene from my experience, and it's, we're talking 17 years experience of interviewing these people. I have a database of close to 120,000 cases and so on. Most of these people suffer from one form of dysfunction or another. They are not necessarily mentally ill, they're not necessarily personality disordered, but they are dysfunctional one way or another. And it is this dysfunction exactly that brought them into the dating scene. So yes, it's an easy hunting ground for the narcissist and the psychopath, the dating scene. And you find an unusual concentration of narcissists and psychopaths among those who date, both as pickup artists and as the willing victims or the willing prey. This is not the case in the general population of, for example, in one's 20s or early 30s when most of the stable, long-term relationships are formed and getting to meet partners and potentially intimate partners in settings like university, college, and so I call it the general, the non-dating scene, the general population. In the general population, narcissists and psychopaths would have very little success and they very fast acquire very bad reputation.    So there's a lot of peer control and social control of fitness and compatibility in dating in these settings because they are reputation-based. They are not essentially anonymous. They're reputation-based. However, when one gets into one's 40s and 50s and is twice divorced and roams singles bars and strip clubs and I know what, or computer online dating websites and what have you, these are all negative filters. The people, I mean, the population which frequents these joints and or is on online dating sites is not a representative sample. It's a highly unique subculture and subgroup. And among these people, as I said, mental health dysfunctions are very common and they are all very easy prey. And then you're right. Narcissists and psychopaths would have an inordinate success among these groups. Right. The reputation isn't as easily shared. It's also, on online dating sites, you can't believe a word. I mean, it's anything like between 90 and 100% fake. I mean, there's no reputation there. And when you go to a singles bar and you pick up a one-night stand, it's also not reputation-based. It's muscle-based or whatever. So, for instance, there is a subtype of narcissist called the somatic narcissist.  This kind of narcissist, a somatic narcissist, derives his narcissistic supply, derives the attention and adulation via his sexual conquests and his musculature and his bodybuilding and so forth. The somatic narcissist roams these exactly these places, scores, it's a scoring game. There's no emotional dimension to that. There's no, it's just notches on his belt. And so, this is not a healthy scene, that's from trying to tell you. And in this miasma, in this unhealthy scene, of course, unhealthy characters like narcissists and psychopaths thrive. I can see also, like you mentioned, even bars where everyone's going there for the very purpose of picking up or getting picked up would be a fertile hunting ground, definitely a destiny. It is, it is a fertile hunting ground. Narcissists and psychopaths don't go there to get laid as most normal people would. They go there to score, they go there to wield power. This is why some of these encounters end in rape. As rape is not about sex, rape is about power. It's a power play, it's a mind game. So narcissists and psychopaths inhabit these places because they want to score, not in the sexual sense, but to score in the power play sense, to have power over others, to demonstrate to themselves and to others their remit, their capacity, their amazing ability to subjugate and subject and dominate and convert people to their cause and make them do what they want. It's a cult-like setting in the narcissist's mind.  This is what we call narcissistic supply. Precisely because his sense of self-worth is very volatile. In the absence of narcissistic supply, the narcissist crumbles to dust, exactly like in vampire movies.    And if you find an appropriate partner, there's nothing wrong with it, I mean, enjoy it. But the narcissists and the psychopaths are there not for this purpose. It's very dangerous, it's a very dangerous environment. Are they looking for that constant affirmation verbally or is it just the fact that you're interested in them?  I mean, it's just the fact that you're interested in them, is that enough or do they need it verbally? Well it depends, as I said, there are two types of, two major types of narcissists, the cerebral and the somatic. The cerebral narcissist is a narcissist who places emphasis on his brain, his intellectual capacity and his intelligence. So he needs you to tell him how brilliant, amazing, perfect, stunning, fascinating, he is intellectually. And then, yes, it's verbal. He doesn't want or require anything more. He's actually pretty repelled by sex and the vast majority of cerebral narcissists, one of which I am, are asexual, they don't have sex. So they won't go beyond that.   That'll be the end all and beyond. And that's it, that's a narcissistic supply. However, if you are somatic, a somatic narcissist is someone who uses mainly his sexuality to obtain narcissistic supply.   And if, when the narcissist is denied this conquests, this consummation or this acknowledgement of his irresistibility, he becomes aggressive.  He becomes aggressive the same way junkies become aggressive when they are denied their fix.  And then it depends on the narcissist.  So this small minority, if you get on the wrong side, if you deny them what they think is their right because they are irresistible, no one can withstand their charm. And if you deny that to their face, if you give them what I call negative narcissistic supply, then they may well become violent and it's happened before, thousands of times. And it's easy to see how a woman could wake up feeling very distant, used, that it was either an experience they wanted or a... There is no woman in this encounter but only an arch, it's an instrument of gratification. The narcissist needs her as an inflatable doll to prove to himself that he has the capacity to dominate and subjugate other people, especially females, if he is straight, but other people generally, regardless of sexual orientation. So he needs to subjugate and dominate. It's a power place, I told you, it's a mind game. It's nothing to do with sex or let alone with emotion or relationship or anything.  And that's her job. And once she has done her job, once it's over, he has no need for her and she is dismissed. She is an object, he masturbates with her body. It's a narcissist and psychopaths are homoerotic, not homoerotic in the sense that they are attracted to their own gender, like homosexuals, but in the sense that they are attracted to themselves. They are, as Freud said and others, they are their own sexual objects. So with a narcissist, as a woman, you may have sex with a narcissist and it'll be great as far as technique goes. He's gonna have the greater technique and it's gonna be paratechnics, it's gonna be firework. But at the end of the day, you will feel emptied, voided because you have never been there. You have been an excuse. You have been a conduit. You have been an instrument of virtue through which, via which, the narcissist obtained an act of love-making with himself. Indeed, this is narcissism, malignant self-love. And this is the title of my book, malignant self-love. And it's similar for psychopath. Yeah, psychopath is even worse. Psychopath is even worse because psychopaths are almost invariably violent. Today, the distinction with a psychopath and narcissists is very blurred with the publication of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Fifth Edition last year. It's been recognized that the lines, the demarcations between personality disorders in the past were very blurry, fuzzy and superfluous. So today it's all merged. So there are narcissists spectrum. So some narcissists are psychopathic narcissists and these people are usually violent. So with a psychopath, it's much worse because it's likely to involve some violence. Ritualized violence, like in Saddo Mazzo or real violence. Your description of the narcissist having sex, needing that constant verbal admiration sounds a lot like porn. Sounds like... Yes, of course. Narcissists are notorious porn addicts, of course. It sounds, it definitely sounds like the way porn is constructed these days. I haven't come across a single narcissist and I have come across thousands by far. I have the biggest database in the world on narcissism. Just to give you a measure of comparison. Most of the studies on narcissism in Akadem involve usually 20 or 30 people. My database includes thousands of people diagnosed with narcissism and I have had very long, detailed interactions with them online, admittedly. And they've answered my questions because they regard me as one of them. So I'm in the brotherhood.  A addict.   Just to know who you're dealing with or to see in yourself some of the trades. Yeah, I think you're touching on a very, very important point, often neglected in other interviews and write-ups and so on. Narcissism is a tidal wave, it's on the rise. Our society and culture are narcissistic. We have constructed, we have embedded narcissism as a foundation stone of the edifice in which we live. So narcissism permeates every cell, every social cell and every cultural aspect.   You can come across narcissistic clubs and narcissistic political parties and narcissistic narcissism. And I was not the first to suggest it. I mean, the first one was Christopher Lash in 1976 in his seminal book, The Culture of Narcissists. Narcissism is no longer a phenomenon isolated to the cabinets of sarcastic German names. Narcissism is all around us. We are awash in narcissism and gradually psychopathy. So it's very frightening and everyone needs a guidebook to this brave new world, brave ominous new world. You have, you list other books like The Toxic Relationships, It's Abuse and It's Aftermath. Is that part of Malignant Self-Love? Right now we are selling, my publisher is selling a series of 16 books that I have written on narcissism, personality disorders, but also specifically on relationships with narcissists and with psychopaths. And I mean, people can buy the whole series or they can buy volumes individually. Some volumes deal with specific relationship issues, yes? Abuse in relationship, how to cope with narcissists in various settings. When you take them to court, when you have a narcissistic coworker or a narcissistic boss, so in the workplace, there is no shortage of context for narcissism and there is no shortage of books on narcissism and mine are an early and periodically updated contribution to this field. These look terrific. I've had clients who, you know, using your books, your knowledge, your information would have been very helpful to them. There is no access to the narcissist mind, except if you are a narcissist. In this sense, it really takes one to know one. So I keep reading these scholarly studies and books written by victims and observers and I chuckle. I keep laughing, you know, because they don't get it right. It is such a solipsist, the narcissist mind is such solipsistic monastic universe that it's a mob, it's a mafia. You need to be a wise guy to know what's going on. So only one narcissist, only a narcissist knows what it means to be a narcissist. It is an experience which is exclusive, mutually exclusive with the human. It's really unique. Sam, I want to thank you so much for your time. I really, it's been fascinating. I'd love to revisit with you after I digest some of this unique perspective you've given me. And I, I want to again, just point out your book, Malignant Self-Love, Narcissism Revisited and your website, Sam Fack, S-A-M-V-A-K, dot tripod dot com. Yes, or www.narcissistic-abuse.com. Cause it's just fantastic resource and I really appreciate the work you're doing. I appreciate you having me. Have a nice day there. Take care, bye bye.


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I'm on strawberry Shit this thing is an invisible bone. Just I think they're wearing invisibility cloaks, dude. How does this work?  All right, you take it. Hey with great power comes great responsibility Okay, so I'll say as long as you don't do nothing wrong. Can I see the guy which way? Yes Cornwood's right. It's a cornwood. This is my job work out for the day Cormorant, are you good? Yeah? I mean I look I just looked What are you gonna do? I don't know. I think I think my time here is up I just yeah, I'm going straight to heaven If corn is getting in the back.  It's gonna be so funny You will not get in trouble as long as as long as it you're not doing something and negatively affect your RP They give you just like dude, it's not it's not Yeah, we're having a ghost No, there's a girl y'all y'all can't tell anybody. Okay. Okay. Wait, is he dead? Oh, you're working on a bit You guys have Tesla technology in you.  It's not I mean possible Never mind Is this our self-driving vehicle? Yeah, howdy. We have this. Yes, you do. I exist now. What do we call you? I don't know. I Ain't decided yet.  Actually, it'd be hilarious. Hello. Hey, hello Maybe this will be my voice.  This guy's been injured. I don't know what happened. Does anybody drive in that car? Is it just me? Hello? Did it just pulled over it did She's freaking self-driving cars. They're crazy man technology be wild worry about it Hey, the car turned itself on after being sadded. It is just Just let it happen just let it happen Dude, I need dude. I need to find mr. K Hey, man, I'm co-dingled in man Rebuttal y'all this is law and legislation. We push it. No, this is a police officer To the meaning of their I'm not gonna mess the court Go ahead prosecution One moment your honor This is flooding french minds Inform PD and have us assist in their did capture Yes, thank you so much. How are we doing today officer? It's been a long day How did you become aware that uh miss quinn escaped? She called me and look Was she bragging?  Do you think he should all have been concerned about An inmate escaping his prison It's being constructed in sandy shores. I think it's like the e-10 spaceship. Yeah, what about it? Yeah eat these nuts This is a salt and battery by the way if I get punched All right. All right, listen with even with your magical powers you couldn't get robin Watch bobby's feet are about to give out What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, would you be able to get? Look at that Yeah, Bobby pick yourself up man. Come on. Would you be able to get robin with those magical powers? Yeah robin got away. Bobby are you drunk?  Come on now. Hey carbine. You start doing some jokes. Okay, wait.  I'm gonna score in you out of court room, bobby Hey slacks if you heard about the uh, have you heard about the the new uh Senior buns from under cheese.    It's ported. Look at it. Okay, babe I Look at it. There's no one in the driver's seat. Was it moving? It was I promise you it was the ghost of a spoochy It turned on it turned on it turned on see look at it Was that Driving car. Yeah defend yourself huge can try. Is this an offer? You know something to show me car? Oh no, I am oh god That's an event because I'm dead. I am not driving. I'm not driving Oh god I have been kidnapped.  I've been kidnapped. I've been kidnapped. I'm a burger shot going eastbound Oh, but for what's in my life? I may need to call the cop I have I have actually He's driving towards mrpd. He's going. Oh man. He gets square. Oh god. He's crashing. It killed itself It's dead. Oh, it's alive. Ah He wants fuel. I think you want. I think the car wants something. What's the fuel in it? You want fuel mr. Ghost? If we make it happy. Look, it's wiggling the wheel. It's happy Are you giving it a ribbon job right now? I'm giving it. Yeah, I'm I'm yeah, I'm touching the edge I'm giving it. Should I give it a ribbon job?  He wants me to get out. I don't know what he wants Is he taking us? This would be the perfect getaway grover. This would be the perfect getaway driver. Oh, no I No, you're busy. Go It's not us. It's not us. It's not us. It's not us.   Oh, my location through Do you see that what stand by one second? There's a note car leaving me or we leave in the car Hey bank on every control. That's all right. It's like I didn't even warn or anything I heard it The nanomachines broke into the window of this car It's stealing a car.  It was infiltrated by the nanomachines. It's a virus going into all the car The nanomachines itself away Oh, my god, it's moving. What bones. You have to believe me. This is cause cause it was the car nanomachines It was driving us around and it transferred into this car through the cell tower system Turn off the internet Get us all if you don't turn if I can Oh, no, that thing was just driving my car earlier It's it's been like this all day. I don't know it's in your car. Oh, yeah, y'all are tripping.


Everybody forced here hoping 2020 Bowman baseball jumbo for box number 20 random team style We'll do the random right now. I just want to let everybody know if you did if you bought it before and didn't know There's 26 silver packs here. It's one per spot. Thank you for joining everybody again one per spot ship sealed to you 26 silver packs Thank you. Thank you That's random and rip 11 11 Names first one two three four five six seven eight nine ten and eleven Chang asked down to Brian asked and then eleven times on the teams one two three four five six seven eight nine ten and eleven Lou J is down to Reds Alright, we got Chang asked with a J's Felix with the Mets Peter M a Giants Phillies Ryan G Mariners pirates Gregory M Guardians Jeremy P Rays Peter and Braves David D Rangers Will E Red Sox Matt T Tigers Brian S Dodgers Lynn F Brewers Matthew W Marlins Rudy S cards Rockies Felix N twins Angels Jordy H Yankees Troy a nationals Felix and Diamondbacks David D A's Brian S Cubs Matthew a Padres Gregory M Royals James P White Sox John M Orioles Giovanni with the Stroh's and Brian S Reds. Let's get started here water So in this one paper based split even to everybody Purple first bowman auto Robert Poisson 238 out of 250 for the A's Yeah, that would have been the out of the screams Darren Durand purple the 250 Luis Garcia nationals Geez all I did was pull an autograph and I'm getting thanked. Thank you. I'm not a bottom of the barrel breaker I guess no paper to 150 Isaac parades. I'm not just some dime a dozen break Take a picture that same You'll get mad that he's not breaking right now, honestly Yeah, you can't say it on the stream, but he's gonna say it to Sam Sorry clingy chrome cards here and paper split even everybody whole-sizer Chasing this is gonna be Jason Dominguez Bobby with junior Jeremy Pena Anthony Volpe even ever some prayers doing pretty solid other guys like Joe Ryan jaren Durand is equal to ran They're pretty good They're solid. You did their chases for certain teams, but yeah, it's wit and it's Dominguez pretty much And then Pena Volpe are after that First bowman auto of it Al Bruhan for Tampa Bay They were on Laura Joe Ryan on the first bowman He is a ray Joe Ryan's array as von reminded sir. He was in the Nelson cruise trade Years back light blue rookie to 499 a quinoa for the Reds Three scuba first Yeah, I know What about awesome apps and playoff baseball? What have been freaking awesome? This is the perfect night for it? Yeah, man that gap the three game. I don't know what they're scheduling. I don't know what they're doing Figure it out. They could like flex. Yeah, I mean the odds are they're not being at least one game Three is kind of insane though to be to be fair. That is kind of insane that there was not one game three First bowman auto Zach Hess Tigers Why he's taping up something out there? He's not stopping. What is he shipping a refrigerator? Keeps going. Oh Yeah, we do use the LD as the 150 atomic insert Orioles four or five. I heard that's a lot Good heck. Yeah, man. I'll find some new people to put on a camera. Hopefully that's pretty sick von Leaf vivid What sport is it? I would imagine at least a little bit ever some prayer or chrome will topple that one Whoa, I just knocked a base car over thing would fall on you Ocean trilogy. Well, okay. If you skip oceans 12, then it's amazing But I'll do for box one not the best box. Unfortunately. Hopefully we changed that here at least one of these boxes That was a pop. I do got popped. Oh Man, I mean it was uh It was a it was a hit up high for sure base auto Adam Hill Brewers, I don't know. He didn't really like he didn't hit him in the head or neck though at all That's not a good call Yeah, like he like watch Yeah And plus he goes like airborne off his feet Defenses, yeah, I guess all of it together because he only pushed with his arms But I guess you didn't like lean into them the like the whiplash aspect of it the 499 Bobby doll backlight blue paper Red Sox Both they chrome Wow, I've never seen that. I haven't seen that a long time. Yeah, I don't know like he doesn't make contact directly with his head Watch me drop his head. Oh, actually he does actually he does He does hit him in the head So yeah, the laser scene that's a good one Oceans 11 is fantastic. That's such a good movie 13 is really good too, but 11 is amazing. Yeah, see him dude. You guys start watching some movies. Come on, Bowman We got speckle Autograph Adam Hall to 299 Orioles There's a pane of chrome coming up for the Stroze Gotcha So five to go on serial numbers coming up guys and Just one to go on the next one. So one in five on flawless basketball serial numbers right after this Let's hit something huge for some people here Blue shimmer coming up. Nice Alec Bohn. That's out of 150 Phillies Bobby would junior first chrome for the Royals Purple paper Muncie to 250 Dodgers See Donnie graph is a Brendan McKay number to 50 Bowman scouts top 100 insert for Tampa Bay They have a number 14 at one point. Holy cow To be fair, he was super talented for the injuries Let's go ahead and get flawless filled up everybody after that. It's just football. I'll check personals after this. I Would assume there's still room. I haven't seen a ton of personal orders come in First refractor is Bojarski to 499 for the Tigers So Vargas chrome There's just one less chrome there Hey guys update series coming up next week gonna be fun got Jason Dominguez box three Speckle first auto Connor Cannon to 299 for the Giants Speckle out of 299. It's Tim Kate Nationals Red River rivalry tomorrow noon. That's a good one Light blue paper to 499 Javier Baez for the Cubs Light blue paper Volpe to 499. There you go Yanks That's solid Dominguez chrome as well. Oh, okay one P and that's not bad for a Afternoon start sign with O's Rangers So we got all day baseball then too. Well I'll get culture will get my attention for one hour And then it's uh straight to baseball cable marino rookie cards But it's only a rookie for this year Vaughan It's a Vargas chrome first Bowman auto Ben Braemer Nationals Bobby Whit Jr. First chrome looking on flawless Let's go flawless. Let's go flawless. I think Matt closed out the first one Matt M. Thank you. Thank you First one is closed out. We're ready to rip on the that one as soon as we're done with this Five to go on the second box of that case serial number flawless basketball Five to go and was a no hurdle is sold out now So after that there's only four football breaks with spots left as well NTP yt flawless football serial numbers And one spot in black football divisions One I'll be live at 10 a.m. Over on fanatics live with wwe nfl and nba breaks not nbs. Sorry mlb breaks excuse First auto is Joey Contillo for the Padres Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot an update you get like the first like diamondbacks rookie auto or whatever Yeah Or like the first flagship. I know I I know what you're saying first, uh, volpe chrome Cabello or cabello Same with what groschans and bleday Yeah, guys late if you're in the Orlando area lake. No, no card show at drive shack Drive shack great place to hang out, but the card show going down over there is legit too It's always got traffic going on in there Make deals later. I'll have some wax. I think there's giveaways and stuff Oh, no, man. It'll be a lot of fun though. It's drive shack. Come on 2020 Let's go.  It looks like Jesse m grabs some mosaic for another day uh harper grabs some nt teams. Well, dude harper is uh Making his presence felt guy. Sean will be here for trade night tomorrow, too I'm just I'm just kidding. Oh my god. I'm like what Sean's running the by himself Happy friday and riko. Yeah, so the last three breaks of the night flawless serial numbers There's two of those for bad for football and there's 14 teams left on nt football That's what we got. That's what we got I will check personals after this break and let you know where we're at there Come on web browser. Don't do this Three spots on each flawless football just came in too But there is trade there is trade out at the gaming shop. What is it first saturday of the month lane? I forget what I think it's first saturday of every month. There's trade night at gaming So if you've got pokemon you've got metazoo Yu-Gi-Oh flesh and blood I mean even the Why can't I think of the name? Why can't I think of the disney lorkana lorkana is hot right now? So You know gripper some 151 pokemon trade the cards Layton gaming and altamon springs florida First auto miguel vargas nice hit dodgers That works I think he's good. I think he got called the bull too early due to the luxe injury, but I think he's good You might have to I'm gonna I think I'm gonna sell my uh Fatih super tomorrow light blue to 499 gray rod orials. I posted it on Well, I had it at the post on ig you got refractor kenti out of 499 first for the Padres And then once I put it up on ebay.  I listed a high on ebay. I just want to see if anyone would offer something for it Within an hour within like an hour of listing it. I got like two messages. Yeah, which is good. Yeah So I think I'll be able to move it tomorrow. Yeah, I'm not an ebay too as good as well Yeah a lot going on between card show trade night bird Are we doing how we doing come on bowman come on bowman Yeah, I do push-ups for every touchdown or something Purple andy paid his nice hit here first moment out of the 250 dodgers doing well in this break Andy pah has I guess because he's the minigun, right? I'd love to see a red refractor here Have any kind of any kind with the last few packs of any kind will work May run Laura Aqua Luis Garcia to 125 nationals Let's get the ball going guys. We got 10 a.m. Start up fanatics live as well. That'll be me. I'll be there You might think I'm an insane person for uh Working late late tonight and then working early tomorrow Well, it's because I am That's the explanation there But tomorrow is going to be a pretty hype on fanatics live. You guys are not going to want to miss it Special things going on blue refractor rookie auto logan allen to 150 cleveland We're probably running a little behind the rest of the night. Um took us a while to fill this one up We ended up having to move it back and Move star wars up, but you know still took a while to get that going White blue paper to 499 edwardo eskibar diamond backs Vargas chrome again Yeah, it's pretty solid bond. It's pretty solid. It'll be uh, it'll still be it'll be a good release Okay, stay in trouble. That was right before halftime to What a blunder Please watch this throw Is it great garbage? Oh, dude, I thought it was gonna be great garbage Look at this no pressure That was just tough That was just tough Very lack of lexidism that exactly Put either dart or throw it up over the top Yeah, that one you got to put yeah that angle look how short it was bad bad Gotta be better Gotta get the ball sooner or later Uh, let's do a quick recap here. Uh numbered chrome, right? Yeah numbered chrome and then autos out of 299 Was tim kate 250 louise garcia to 150 alec bone That's a paper of parades to 125 louise garcia to 150 using the aldeas autos now michael vargas your dodgers Joey cantillo Ben bramer adam hill Zach hess fidel brujan to 299 connor cannon Adam hall to 250 andy pys dodgers had a really good break robert poisson for the a's to 250 Logan allen a 150 guardians and insert auto to 50 brendan mckay for tampon bay Thanks, everybody moving on now to basketball


Ladies and gentlemen, the Vice President of the United States and Mrs. Bush. Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States and Mrs. Reagan. Ladies and gentlemen, to introduce to your microphone the Vice President of the United States, the Chairman of the Republican National Committee, Mr. Frank Ferenkald. Ladies and gentlemen, the past five weeks there's been a lot of false rhetoric, a lot of demagoguery about the race for vice presidency of the United States. Let me just introduce to you the best, the best qualified, the best experienced, the best vice president we've ever had, George. You've been here a long time and I know why you came, but let me just take this opportunity to thank Dallas for this fantastic hospitality. Mr. President, you've just seen the tip of the iceberg here to say to, to say to Mayor Stark-Taylor who's sitting here with us and to Trammel Crow and to so many others who have turned this city inside out, we are grateful to you from the bottom of our hearts. And now it is my special privilege and great opportunity to introduce to you the President of the United States, Ronald Reagan. Maybe I shouldn't say anything. I should take Billy Joel's advice. You know that fine young singer from New York, he said, leave a tender moment alone. Well, I will say one thing, you may represent 50 states. You, that's Iowa. You, you may just be visitors, but did you ever catch the Texas Spirit? You sure have. I wouldn't want to brag, certainly not in Texas, but you see, I've always felt that I'm a born optimist and I like to feel I carry some of that Texas Spirit with me 365 days a year. And it's been a lot easier to do that and it doesn't hurt a bit having a loyal son of Texas, George Bush, as my partner. His intelligence, his integrity, his experience and his faithful service do make him what has already been said here once, the best vice president this country's ever had. The people of this lone star state have always been very good to me and I guess I arrive feeling a little like that husband who sent a telegram to his wife on their 25th anniversary and it read, can't live without you, request you new contract, renew contract indefinitely. Well, in our case, we'll settle for just four more years. I've just come from a delightful visit with a man who's given a great deal to our party and much to our country, President Ford. And I'm pleased to report to you that Jerry is ready to go all out for our ticket top to bottom from here to election day. But we are honored to be here where the spirit of progress and patriotism is as strong as the heart of Texas is big. Texans play hard and Texans play to win. There's, you have an expression down this way that I like. You don't just score victories, you romp them. Great Dallas Cowboys did much to establish that tradition. Maybe that's why Coach Landry, Roger Staubach, Danny White, all the players gained a reputation much to the chagrin of many in Washington, I might add, of being larger than life. The Dallas Cowboys have come to be known as America's team. May I suggest that by the time this convention ends, the Republican Party will be on its way to being America's party. There are many reasons for this, many reasons. We'll be America's party because it is the interest of all the people that party that we represent. When we asked for the people's help to bring down inflation, to bring down interest rates, to cut tax rates for every working American, and to index taxes so that never again could government profit from inflation at the people's expense, when we accomplished each of these important victories, we only did it with the people's help and all of the people as a result have been helped. Our opponents haven't had an easy time with our success. They've come up with an antidote. Bring back to Carter Mondale administration. Oh, I was going to ask if you wanted that, but I just wanted to check. We Republicans want to keep going forward and we want to bring America's heritage with us. We say without embarrassment that we seek to honor our traditions, that we believe our fellow citizens are good and decent people and their values and aspirations deserve to be respected, not patronized. For us, words like faith, family, work and neighborhood are not slogans to be dragged out of the closet every four years. They are values to respect and to live by every day. We will be America's party because the American dream begins with opportunity and our goal is to build an opportunity society for every man, woman and child. We'll do it because GOP doesn't just stand for grand old party, it also stands for great opportunity party. You'll forgive me, lately it looks like that letter D in their name has gone to stand for defeatism, decline, dependency, doom and despair. It can take your pick of anyone or all of those. Standing for opportunity means that we're determined despite the do nothing democratic leadership to push forward for enterprise zones, to push forward for a youth opportunity wage so that people can get off unemployment, get off welfare and get the chance for decent jobs that they deserve. And when I happen to believe that helping people climb higher and make it on their own is a darn sight more progressive and compassionate than keeping them down and dependent on government for the rest of their lives. Standing for opportunity means that we will push for spousal IRAs. That is for wives who may not be working and earning but housewives that they too will be able to deposit in IRA accounts with the same advantages that those who are working here. We're going to push for tuition tax credits for the protection that will come from passage of our comprehensive crime package and for a constitutional amendment mandating the federal government spend no more than the federal government takes in. And yes, we want to enact an historic reform of our tax system. We need a tax reform that makes the system simple enough to understand fair to all and that can bring everyone's tax rates further down and not up. You know, this thing of making it simpler an amendment that I think if I remember correctly is about 16 words is now 37 feet of wall space taken up by books on the regulations that go to make up the income tax law alone. And the government has the nerve to tell the people of this country you figure out how much you owe us and we can't help you because our people don't understand it either. And if you make a mistake we'll make you pay a penalty for making the mistake. We think we ought to be able to send you a bill and tell you what you owe, not the other way around. And that leads me to something else that I believe with all my heart because we represent all the people because we represent an agenda of opportunity to benefit all the people from excellence in education to developing new frontiers in space and high technology the Republican Party is America's party of the future. We know what the other side wants and for heaven sakes don't argue with them, don't argue for one second just let them be the party of tax and tax and spend and spend and the Republican Cardinals continue to be the party of growth and growth and jobs and jobs. That's our idea of progress and compassion for if we restrain spending reduce tax rates further and keep our economy growing we can sharply reduce the deficit through that growth. Now what I'm suggesting is let's take our cue from our Olympic athletes rather than punish success rather than raise taxes let's challenge America in the next 76 days to raise our sights and reach for greatness let's go for growth and let's go for the gold. Thank you and I've spoken before about our fine leaders in the House and Senate but I just take to take this moment to salute all of you and there are so many bright stars we're reaching out to all Americans and charting the path to a brighter future so let me say to the members of the news media who are present, those new ideas that you're always looking for the vision for the future leadership for the nation you've finally come to the right place it's all right here at this convention in Dallas, Texas Dallas is a winning town and we'll leave Dallas united we'll leave here strong and we'll take our case to the people I want to remind you in 1980 the American people were in a mood to win and they did win and in 1984 they're in a mood to win again and they will my friends it's good to be here all of us together I just never seen anything like this and I keep wondering are those sheets gonna be a lot of sleeping on the mattress tonight our nation is more than 200 years old but somehow America has never been newer never been younger and never been more full of hope we've been truly blessed and for this for this we must be truly thankful may God bless you and may he continue to bless our beloved country thank you very much the Bush kids Mr. President and Mrs. Reagan Mr. Vice President and Mrs. Bush I would like now to introduce to you three people who could also pull a landslide in their own right and they do annually I would like to introduce to you three of the biggest names in the Texas and the country ladies and gentlemen they're here if it gives you a clue they're here with another very very much admired man Texas E. Shram who will not be on stage so you know who I'm about to talk about in this order ladies and gentlemen listen in this order on stage at the same time Mr. Danny White Mr. Roger Stabach and Coach Tom Landry Mr. President you remember four years ago in 1980 Roger and I presented you with a Dallas Cowboy Jersey now we're so sure that was the only reason that you won in 1980 because of the good luck of this Jersey what we're going to do today is we're going to give the Democrats a double whammy today we're going to present you with two cowboy jerseys one for you and one for the Vice President Bush come here Coach if things don't turn out alright I played right guard


Hello everyone. I am very happy to be here with the new President of Chile, Gabriel Boric. This morning, we had a meeting. We talked about our common progressist priorities, a part of an economy that works for everyone, protecting democracy, fighting climate change, and working in partnership with Indigenous peoples. I have to say that Canada and Chile have had a long-standing positive relationship, but today, President Boric and I really reaffirmed that it's also a friendship. At a time like this, with so much instability around the world, the challenges of the pandemic, the challenges of the fight against climate change, challenges of global conflict, and tremendous issues as we see authoritarian states rise and democracy's backslide in some cases, it's so important to be celebrating and welcoming the arrival of a strong progressive voice on the world stage. It is great news for Chile, it's great news for Canada that I have such a strong partner at the other end of the continent, but it's really important as well that we continue to add to the strong voices around the world fighting for democracy, for human rights, combating threats to our institutions and stability, aligned on climate change, on gender equality and inclusion, on the kinds of things we know don't just make life easier and better for all of our citizens, but also lead to better economic growth. We talked about a lot of these things and as I think people know, we're tremendously aligned, we even got into the challenges of gun violence and how Canada has moved forward recently on stronger gun control and some of the challenges that Chile is facing as well. So I'm very, very excited to be welcoming you, Gabriel, here to Ottawa on this first big trip outside your region that you chose to come to Canada really reinforces not just the 80 years of friendship between our countries and 25 years of free trade, but the strong anchored reality of values that we share from across the Americas. As we continue to recover from the COVID-19 pandemic, we're both focused on building economies that create jobs and opportunities for everyone. Discussing trading opportunities that can create growth and good jobs for both of our countries was something that we did. For 25 years, the Canada-Chile Free Trade Agreement has provided opportunities for businesses and workers and we look forward to continuing and deepening that relationship and friendship. We're committed to creating new opportunities for Canadian and Chilean businesses and entrepreneurs helping them reach new markets and customers, which is good for our economy and ensures that Canada stays competitive when it has access to economies around the world, like strong economies in South America. As our economies recover and grow, we need to ensure that it does so in a way that brings everyone along. The Council of Ministers of Canada and those of Chile are both composed of at least 50% of women. And today, we have concluded a hearing to continue to advance in the right direction. Today, we are announcing an agreement to promote gender equality and empower women in all parts of our societies, including supporting policies that ensure women's inclusion in COVID-19 economic recovery efforts, representation in leadership positions, wage parity, addressing gender-based violence, and more. We know that securing a strong economic future requires us to take climate action and protect the environment as partners and friends. That's exactly what we're doing. Today, Canada committed to cosponsoring the Americas for the Protection of the Ocean Declaration with Chile. Canada and Chile are both ocean countries. We know healthy oceans are critical for jobs, for communities, and for fighting climate change. Today's announcement is about how we keep the Pacific Ocean healthy from protecting migratory routes for sea animals to preserving delicate coastal ecosystems. We also work together to promote another tool to fight climate change and stimulate economic growth, the price on pollution. In November, during COP26, I invited the other countries to make sure that 60% of global emissions are covered by a price-to-price regime until 2030. Today, Canada and Chile are formally committed to collaborating to achieve this goal. Canada and Chile both have a price on pollution, and in Canada, our system puts more money back into the pockets of a majority of Canadian families. A strong plan to fight climate change keeps our air clean and is critical to creating jobs and growth. By building a fairer and better future, we're helping strengthen the foundations of our democracies. Stronger democracies are in everyone's interest as we look to the forces that seek to threaten the fundamental rights and freedoms of our citizens. Both of our countries are committed to promoting and protecting democracy at home, across our hemisphere, and around the world. We're committed to defending human rights, freedom, equality, and combating threats to our institutions and society. We welcome Chile joining the Freedom Online Coalition, which supports internet freedom worldwide. And together, we strongly condemn Putin's ongoing unjustified and horrific attacks on Ukraine. We stand with Ukraine and remain steadfast in our support for its sovereignty and for the rights of Ukrainians to choose their own future. President Boric Gabriel, I'm honored to welcome you today. Thank you for choosing Canada, but mostly thank you for the work you do in bringing our countries together and making sure that our voice resonates strongly together on the world stage. I look forward to the work we will do together to advance progressive policies as like-minded partners at the Summit of the Americas in LA this week, but also in the months and indeed in the years to come. Merci mon ami. Bienvenue.