Hello, folks! It's a pleasure to be here speaking at the Upser Summit and talk about PowerShell. A little about me. My name is, okay, come on, come on, okay. My name is Rodrigo Crespe. I'm from Brazil and I have been working with database since the last decade of the last century. And since 2010, I have been using PowerShell as a way to automate a sort of system process. After Microsoft opened PowerShell Core, which is open source, it became most productive, of course. As I can put it in almost any environment. And I will leave here. And I will leave here, oh, let me laser point. I will leave here my link to my blog. There you will find my contacts. Feel free if you want to exchange messages about process automation, data ops. I'm glad to hear you. Okay. Let's start presentation. Okay, come on. Just a second, please. Come on. Okay, advantages of the PowerShell. One of the first differences to not see when using PowerShell for the first time is semantic clarity. Okay. Most comments in traditional POSIX shells, such as Bash, are heavily abbreviated and often require memorization. Comments are like AWK, PS, topping, or even less do not communicate what they do in your name. It's not self-describing. But wanting when someone already know that they do, the names start to make sense. Think with me. Once I know what LS is list files, the abbreviation makes sense. In PowerShell, on the other hand, commands are perfectly self-describing. They achieve this by following a strict name conventions. It's important. It provides better semantic clarity. It's object-oriented. It's another advantage. And it's possible to use all conventions like inherent polymorphism, etc. Or there are modules available. There are a lot of modules today. But on the market, there are some modules. Some paid, some free. For example, if you were managing a POSIX SQL, there are some modules, but the most expressive is paid. For my SQL, by other hand, is the most expressive is free. It's a convention of the market. You could create some module and put some value or make free. The .NET Core is perhaps the great trigger that allows the great freedom of the use PowerShell. Since we can import and use all frameworks, native class, and once we create it, where you can put .NET Core, you can put PowerShell like an IoT device, Apple machines, or a lot of Linux distributions, and of course Microsoft machines. Microsoft is as old. And like this, the modules create a big advantage. As I said before, there are a lot of modules. But in this example, I can use modules to manage several clouds. I bring here three most relevant in my environment, which I work. We have a modules for Microsoft Azure, Amazon AWS, and Google Cloud. There are probably modules for other cloud players, but I don't know. It's just a search about this. And I will just some example. A few months ago, I had to automate a process that backup virtual machines on-premises and bare metal and make a copy in Azure Blob. And another in a blob in AWS. In AWS, I would restore one VM. And finally, I come back to Azure, and I would restore one Postgrease database that was inside of VM, like a service. It's amazing. Just one script for all. This flexible is essential for automation. Think that some virtual machines were Linux and other Windows. Amazing. I will give you an example in the browser here. I put all the links in the PowerPoint. Here, I search in PowerShellGallery, PowerShellGallery.com, and search for AWS. And you find a publisher, AWS. There are a description for its official here, author. Okay. And here, a description has you can install this module. Here, in action details, you have a file list. Okay. Some DLLs, it's a lib. It's work in Linux. It's work in Mac or Windows. Okay. And here, some describe the AWS tools for PowerShell. Developers and administrators. AWS serves from PowerShell scripting environment. Okay. It's like a goat. And you can find some other publisher or in GitHub and put here PowerShell and AWS. And you can find something. Amazon PowerShell. Okay. I'll get to hub. Here, you find it's not official publisher, but you can try test. There are a free code, you know. Okay. Let me explain about... Ah, it's important. Let me explain. Okay. Let me say multi-virtualization. As well as multi-cloud, it's possible to use several virtualizer modules. These are the ones I use the most. Again, this must be some module for virtualizer I need. In my demos, I show how to search and install. Look here. You have a module for Hyper-V, of course, VMware and Citrix. It's great. You can find here another example. I search in PowerShell Gallery for VMware. And I search the official module for VMware. And you can manage some products inside VMware. You can find here for VMware here. VMware, a lot of modules that use PIN automation. Here, you will find ImageBuilder PowerClean. It's most famous with a lot of PowerClean. And you can use it for your automation. I'll talk about the modules several times in these minutes. But it's important to understand how the commands work in PowerShell. Before all commands inside PowerShell, we call commandlets. It's 9% of PowerShell, the rest it spreads. All commandlets in PowerShell start with a verb and have a separator, of course. And I know, like this example, get chardite or get items inside of a set of data set. The commandlet takes all items from a subset, not necessarily from a directory, as all the people know. In the case of connections to a database, we can list all databases using get chardite. Or in case of Microsoft TV directory, you can list all GPOs using get chardite. It's very logical every command has a parameter and arguments. And you have a parameter and arguments, like this example here. And these syntax, I will get all items in this subset, like a root of Windows machine. And I will list all directories inside. And pipelines are the same as the other script languages, like a bash. It serves to get result set and throw to the next command. In the case of this example, like this, I have a pipe signal and a commandlet and arcs. In this example, I get all items inside the root directory, throw to the commandlet format table. That's format in table format. Same, you return just a name and size of these files. I could here chain more commands as a next other pipe and export to a file. Or I write directly in the table database or export to Excel file or JSON file, just put in a pipe after. A few years ago, I read a documentation that says you can chain up to 256 commandlets. I didn't find this doc anymore. I also think that chain 256 commandlets may be illogical or hard to debug this code. But this information is for knowledge only, I believe. Most modules create connections, like a bridge that code driver use internal provider. For example, when you're going to maintain a SQL server on a Linux or Windows, you can access a unit mounted inside to the PowerShell called SQL server, as well as the file system or system and user variables. How's this that seems abstract to know? I will demonstrate later. About variables, it's important to know that when created a variable without type, it will be treated as an object. Even if you later, it receives integer value, for example, it belong to a class object with integer value. It's important. And as PowerShell is based to a dotnet framework, it's important to know we can and should type data. This will be typed with this available in dotnet framework. These will include array or list. Well, we can do a holy data structure course with PowerShell, right? But moving to provider, it's important. Provider and driver were just as simplified how it works. Remember that drivers mounted in PowerShell, not OS. Here, you can see in the first picture, I use get ps provider to list all providers I have in my machine. Here, you can see provider named file system and this other picture shows my ps drive. It's all drives mounted in my PowerShell. When I see a root and it's important because here my provider, when I have a provider, Microsoft dot PowerShell dot core slash file system, it's a path of my class in dotnet framework. And here you can see some information about the type exposed by this provider. When you can see fire our instances of system dot jl dot file system class in, of course, PowerShell dot net core. I send you this text and have all these links for you search after. And about modules, a little deeper in modules. I can say that they are a set of functions, commands, providers in many structures that you facilitate to use an automation of lines. Include system libs like a dll or libs create in dotnet core. If you're curious about this, searching my blog, you find a post with a video. Let I show how to create a class in sharp and imported in your dotnet core in, sorry, in your PowerShell and use all the functions that are in this class using, of course, links. I use a macOS. Okay. It's works in a head hat or or boom to or Susie. Every links that you use are that not dotnet core. It's works in practice. This means you can if you are a developer or develop a device, it's possible to create a module for customer to manage or even for the partners to deploy. Like you are developer for ERP, you know, software management. You can create a module that create when you run, you have some procedures that create a database, create a open ports in viral, make connections, create users and so on. It's possible. Okay. Let me show in demonstration. It's how it's work here. Here I have a boom to when I have installed a VS code and my demo or in VS code. Okay. And let me explain how you get help, get help, of course. And I try the item. How do you need to know here? And you are flying a help. Okay. And if you need some example, like get help, get PS provide any of the examples. Of course, you have our name example. And they find some example to not have example here. Okay. Oh, new Python. It's another commandlet. Let's go. Okay. No example. Oh, you know, it's possible. There are online. Oh, no. Okay. Well, I, I suggest you explore that. Not like me. Of course. Another example. Get shared item path TMP directory. Okay. Here. A list of my temporary files. Right. And I can use this in my Mac OS like this. Okay. Get, get. Your item. Here. It's working my Mac OS or my Ubuntu. Of course, believe me, it's working Windows machine. Using pipe. Look this. Get the item. Did my temporary far directory. And I use select object to show me name, root, creation time in less for a time. Okay. Rodrigo, there are a problem. When I use get shared item here, they show me units mode, user group, less for a time size, a name. How would we find a creation time? For example, stay tuned. I show you. Okay. Let me explain here. Okay. I'm see here. Just the name. Just the name. No, it's the other. Just the name, root, creation time, less for a time. Okay. Easy. And here I true to this result set to format table. And format table, outsize and hide the table headers. I don't know why, but I need this. Okay. Whoa. Nice. Okay. It's important when you make some automation. I need to verify what operational system I use. Okay. And I can test this using is Linux. True is Mac OS. False is Windows. False. But it's core CLR. True. Because I using common language runtime of core.net core is not Windows. CLR. Okay. If I use here, sorry, is Mac OS true is Linux false is core CLR true. Okay. Right. Guys. Remember that I said the PS drive here. I need to know all drive mounted in my portion environment like this. Get PS drive here. I have a file system, alias, environment, functions, temporary and variables. Okay. But I need to make some filter that I need to know PS drive about variable. Get PS drive or object. It's another command that important where object when I pass. I need to know PS item test this object return name equal a variable. And voila, we have a filter or get child the item variable here. And you can see all items in my variables created. It's a system or user. For example, X is user. W8Z. It's for user here. New variable. I create here. Oh, already fixed. Okay. Okay. We'll create here. I create a variable and I set a value and I read the content. All right. And simple way just remove variable and remove variable. Okay. Here. Here. And just create here. We've setting a value and to read, of course, just like a bash. And I could create here. I could create here a type that variable using integer here. And if I want to see the date type, it's a public serial integer 32 and system value type. Oh, my example is 30. If I need to know this here and get type, get type, it's an integer. Okay. And creating a rate. It's easy. A equal one, two, three, four and count four. Or I can use a equal four dot dot a four, five, six, seven, eight. Or I can create a server at the ADVN SQL one, SQL two. Of course, I think about automation or type array computators, which I have a three positions. And the first positions is surface book. Look this. What's awesome. We can put MacBook Pro computers of book. What's wrong? What's not resizing? Because I have a math. These are my maths. Remember get child the item. When I, I invented less right time. It's here. Get child the item. Get member. Here. All members I can use. I want to use attributes, unique states, PS path, how everything here, what I'll show you. It's all the base to use a PowerShell. And here. Okay. I just throw this away. But you can get this PS one, this file to try in your environment. Okay. Here I have a collection array with PS, a PC one, C two server one. And you can search every your environments. Let me show a hash table. When create a service Doris, when I have a AD server, this EP and SQL server with this IP. Okay. It's easy to create a hash table. You can add, remove easily. And you can serializable a password to access image all of these computers in your network. Let me explain about how propose here. I create this variable X equal. When I put ads before I create some function, some expression here and equal a label and equal my function. My function is PS item. It's that was before some commandlets before the pipeline. When I divide by one megabyte like this. Okay. Hmm. When I apply this, it's easy. X dot E equal than megabytes. X is equal in kilobytes. It's cool, right? Because you can use this get char the item here inside directory. And when I select the name and the size of these files. Oh, I do not have these. Okay. TMP. It's a better example here. Okay. Because I created this. Like a label, I can put here size and divide for megabytes. No megabytes, of course. Okay. But I believe you can understand this. Right. Guys, I just need there are a lot of examples here. You or find this awesome. But how can I use a class system dot net DNS? This is a dot net framework class. When I get a hostname and find my hostname like this. You be sick. Oh, and how I can find modules. These modules are imported in my computer. Okay. These modules are available for use. My computer. And how can I find something like I need to find a module for AWS. Of course, you can go to the website download install, but you can find here. Just find in your PS gallery, all the tools AWS tools. Okay. And you can install this. I do not stop here because my network is not good to do this, but you can install module and update and so on. Okay. Okay. And you can find some command here. Like this. Get command. Oops. Command module. Oh, let me think about. Easy. All the commands in Azure module are listed here. It's to it's not too fast. My network is not good here. Okay. And you can find a lot of examples like how to remove some old files and how to execute to access as age or get top in a file or a grid view and this. Guys, it's I have brought to talk to you. I believe if you like, please let me know if you don't like, let me know. It's important for me. Thank you for attention. I hope you enjoy this session. See you.


Hi, I'm Zor. Welcome to a new Zor education. I would like to continue talking about different trigonometric functions. Today's topic is cosine. In many respects, cosine is a lot of the sine function, which was the previous lecture, and I'll try to be maybe a little bit faster explaining the properties of the cosine, considering you have already familiarized yourself with the sine. Alright, so properties are, first we'll start with definition. Now, just recall that if this is a unit circle on the coordinate plane, and you will take any point A and you will measure an angle phi from positive direction of the x-axis towards this particular direction from O to A. Now, this angle is phi, and for this angle you will define a cosine of the angle phi as an axis of point A. So this is x, this is y. For sine, if you remember it was an originate, but for cosine it's an adjacent side if this is a right triangle. But obviously the definition doesn't depend on the fact that this is the right triangle because the definition of this particular, if you will see this angle from this over there here. So it's almost like full circle just a little bit less. The definition is still the same. It will take the absence of this particular point, which is this in this particular case. So the definition is the x-coordinate of the point which designates the angle we are talking about. Now, usually if we are talking about trigonometric functions, as you remember we measure angles mostly in radians. It doesn't mean that this is an incorrect, no, this is a correct writing. However, when we are talking about function like y is equal to cosine of x, then we are assuming that x is radians. Unless specifically set otherwise. Alright, so that's all about the definition. Now let's talk about how this particular function behaves. So we are talking about x-coordinate of the function of the point based in this angle. So let's start moving. First we will start from the point A which is at angle 0. Angle 0, which means it coincides with this particular point and its co-ordinates are x is equal to 1 and y is equal to 0. So this point corresponds to an angle of 0 radians. Now, what's the x-coordinate of this? Well, obviously that's x, that's 1. So when phi is equal to 0, cosine of phi is equal to 1. Actually, I would prefer to use instead of angular letters like Greek letter phi, I would just use an x which is usually used for the functions. But x means actually an angle in radians. Now let's move our point A over this unit circle, increasing the angle from 0 as it is here to the right angle which is equal to phi over 2 radians. So if x is equal to phi over 2, cosine of x, and this is an x-coordinate, which is this particular point, and the co-ordinates of this point is 0, 1. 0, this is an x-coordinate, and 1 is y-coordinate. So the cosine is equal to 0. Alright, let's move forward this direction. So we're increasing the angle. Now, as point A moves towards this position, which is minus 1, 0, and this is a straight angle which is 180 degrees or pi radians. And as you see, the x-coordinate is equal to minus 1. Next is 3 quarters of a circle. This is the point, its co-ordinates are 0 minus 1. So when x is equal to 3 pi over 2, because this is an angle 3 pi over 2, cosine x is equal to 0. Now, incidentally, we can come to this particular point which is angle 3 pi over 2 counter-clockwise. We can come to this point clockwise with moving this direction, which is a negative direction for an angle. So if the angle is minus pi over 2, it implies exactly the same thing, that the cosine is equal to 0. X is equal to pi, this direction. But we can come to this point moving to a negative direction of the angle measurement clockwise. We will come to exactly the same point if we will move minus pi, right? So if x is equal to minus pi, exactly the same result. And pi over 2, which is this angle, you can move clockwise by minus 3 pi over 2, right? So that's also the same thing, and it follows. And this is obviously if x is equal to minus 2 pi, or if x is equal to 2 pi, that's all the same. 2 pi means the full circle, right? This direction, or minus 2 pi, we're still coming into this point and that's why in all these cases the value would be like this. So let's draw the graph. I'll put this circle here. So this is 1, 0. This is 0, 1. This is minus 1, 0. And this is what? 0 minus 1. Okay, so now we're talking about graph. We start from x is equal to 0, which is this, and 0.1. x is equal to 0, cos n is equal to 1. Now, as x moves towards the increasing the value, which means our angle is increasing counterclockwise, the next stop is pi over 2 where the function is equal to 0. So you will have something like pi over 2 when the function goes to 0. Then the next one at pi is equal to minus 1. Now, as you see, it very much resembles the sign. Then it goes to 3 pi over 2 somewhere here, the function of this and this way. Now, going to the negative side, we will have a very similar one. Minus pi over 2 is 0 again. Then at pi it's equal to minus 1, etc. So the curve itself looks exactly like the sign. Now, the only difference is, if you remember, sign function starts at 0, 0, and then it goes to a maximum of 1 at pi over 2, then 0. So it's just, so this is the sign. So the whole graph is actually shifted. Now, we will investigate what exactly the correlation between sine and cosine and why the graph really looks like it's shifted and it is, but that will be a separate lecture. Right now we are concerned with the blue line, which corresponds to the graph of y is equal to cosine of x. Now, as far as periodicity, now obviously you understand that the function has a period and the period is obviously equals to 2 pi because after the full circle, our angle after 2 pi regions, our circle actually, our point on the circle returns to the same value and that's why it's co-ordinate, subsist angle, coordinate are exactly the same. So 2 pi is a period and you can observe it here. Like from here, for instance, to here, then the function repeats itself or from minus pi to pi, for instance, the function repeats itself. It's supposed to be minus. So this is the periodicity. Now, what we can say about these nodes where function is equal to 0, you see minus pi over 2, pi over 2, 3 pi over 2, etc. So the function is equal to 0 at x equals to pi over 2 plus pi n where n is n in the integer number, positive or negative for 0. If it's 0, it's pi over 2. If it's 1, it's 3 pi over 2. If it's minus 1, it's minus pi over 2, etc. So the function is equal to 0, roots, if you wish, of the equation, cosine of x is equal to 0. Now, where the function is equal to maximum, 1 at 0 and by period by 2 pi as many times as we want. So cosine of x is equal to 1, which is maximum. At x is equal to 2 pi n where n is any integer number. If n is 0, we have 0. If n is 1, it's equal to n. 2 pi, if n is equal to minus 1, we have minus 2 pi, and it repeats by periodicity. And finally, minimum function when the cosine of x is equal to minus 1, minus 1, we have minus pi, pi, etc. So it's at x is equal to pi plus 2 pi n plus the periodicity. So that's maximum and minimum. What else is important? Now, as you see, graph is symmetrical relative to the y axis. So it means what? It means that the function is even, which means that the value of the function of positive argument is exactly the same as the value of the function of a negative argument with the same absolute value. So I would like to say that that the cosine of x is exactly the same is exactly the same as cosine of minus x. Now, well, obviously you can see from the graph, but it's probably better to look at this circle. Again, unit circle. If you will take an angle, which is, let's say, positive, this is 5. And then negative, which is this way, minus 5. The coordinate of this function, at this point, would be, if you will draw the perpendicular here and perpendicular there, it will drop into the same point, because these are equal right triangles, congruent, I should really say, by hypotenuse and an acute angle. Now, if this is not an acute angle, if it's an angle something like this, this is one, and this is another. It's still the same thing, because you can consider the angles which are pi minus this, which is this one. And here also, pi minus this, which is this one. And the same congruent triangles you can consider, and again they're congruent because the hypotenuses are congruent to each other and the angles, acute angles. So from equality or congruence, rather, of these two triangles, this and this, follows that these quantities of one should be equal to quantities of another, which means they are projecting to the same point, and that's why this x coordinate is exactly the same for these two. So it will be minus x and, sorry, it will be the same x. And minus y. Minus y goes this direction, because these are also equal in lengths, but opposite inside, inside. So this is a cosine, this is a cosine, and they correspond to each other. So the function cosine is even and the value of this function for any positive angle is exactly the same as the value of a corresponding negative with the same actual thing. All right, so what else remains to be... All right, now how about we were talking about this for science, how about this? Well, let's go back again to our unit circle. Let's consider first an acute angle, that's easier. So if this is pi, this is pi minus x, sorry, this is x. This is pi minus x. Now, it's, well, if this is pi minus x, it means this is exactly x, right? So these triangles are obviously congruent to each other, again, the angle, the right triangles and the same pathogenesis since it's a radius of the same circle. So these to catch it are equal in lengths, that would be the proper direction. Now, what if it's pi plus x or x plus pi, it doesn't really matter. This is pi and this is x on this side. Same thing. We are projecting this point to exactly the same. So again, the same thing is here. By the way, what's interesting here is how to obtain this from this without considering any any drawings, any unit circle, et cetera, et cetera. Algebraically, rather than geometrically. We already know that cosine is an even function, which means that cosine of pi minus x is equal to cosine of x minus pi, right? I'll just change the sign and according to this it should be the same. Now, we also know that cosine is a periodic function. Which means it's the same as if I will add 2 pi the period to the value of of argument. And what is this? This is exactly cosine of x plus pi which is the same as this. So that's how we basically prove that cosine of pi minus x is the same as cosine of pi plus x, right? x plus pi, whatever. Which is equal to minus cosine. So, this last ecology I could have obtained from the first two just by using the fact that it's an even function and it's a periodic function. Now, once we know the graph we can manipulate this graph using certain known factors about how to manipulate the graph. Now, for instance, you can basically as an example I think I have something like 3 cosine of x over 2 plus p over 4 something like this. How to draw this graph? Well, first you have to change it slightly so you will have the sequence of so it's x plus pi over 2 over 2 right? Common denominator I use 2 but instead of p over 4 I could p over 2 over 2. Now, first I start with cosine of x. Then I have to draw the cosine of x plus p over 2 which means shifting the whole graph by p over 2 to the left. This blue one goes to the left so it will be something like this. Then you have to divide the argument by 2 which means the whole graph would stretch by the factor of 2 so it will be from minus pi minus 2 pi to plus 2 pi more waves will be like this and then you have to multiply it by 3 which means it will stretch vertically by a factor of 2. So that's how you manipulate. So in any case that's basically everything I wanted to talk about cosine. Now these are properties of the cosine by itself. I am not talking about relationship between sine and cosine some transformation formulas etc. So that will be separate lectures. So far this is just about the function why is it with cosine effects. And thank you very much. That's it for today. Goodbye.


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Okay So I do feel the cost differential between the two units is justified It's that that's a really interesting debate because if we look at the previous book I With the way the books were structured in the way that buffs worked and everything I thought they should be the same points, which is why I mean I thought hard I guess internally and they come out initially with that and they eventually started separating as buffs and things changes Edition changes, but I saw them as Two different options really blendy or more utility with that pile in But now with this frenzied fervor add it on top um I it and just and in fact that it's if it changed it to a three, but it's like the plus one like that's better um I'm starting to agree more and more especially but that I'm wondering if that's partially because we're in the shooting Meta of things That that six inch pylon is amazing because I you screw your only shell. I'm just going to come into right. Yeah Yeah, but I I wonder because like I see it. I see the separation is on points better now But as maybe we move away from the shooting meta, maybe they come back closer together in my mind Yeah, I mean I I cannot understate the power of six inch pylon. It's so wild That's why my ability is yeah Yeah, where we're at right now. Yes. I can't disagree with that. Yeah to be clear It means they have on scroll run in charge. I mean, I know they already do but technically they are like they get it twice They have retreat in charge Right and they have ignore unleash hell That's that's written on their scroll because of that one rule Right so I've seen a lot of folks talking about just leaning into witch elves and that these are over costed assistive slaughter I mean a lot might be an oversimplified but a number of people commenting I've heard and Yeah, I don't I don't see it I would definitely go with could easily do two by 20 as part of a witch elves less sos heavy list with a couple wagons And yeah, just like we talked about earlier guys with that ability to better control Uh, your minimization of the slap of the clap back minimization of damage that's coming back to you That's so critical with the the glass that aren't the lack of durability being creased as well as the output So yeah, it seems to me like they still have a very clear role with this army Yeah, and the way I look at it like that since I play craith I max out and says there's a slaughter two into 30 unit 10 Um, or however you want to source it out But really what that comes down to is like, okay, because it's an extra 20 points per 10. I'm not getting extra hero. So I'm probably taking The the heart Prayer invocation. So it's like it still works out to be okay. Like it's not It's not ruining any lists being at the points that are out right now Yeah The other thing I'll say is don't forget the sisters do also have a two inch reach with their core weapon If you're taking like the sisters with with bucklers, right? Which means that you can be in a lot different sort of formations and still have them all fight Whereas the witch elves you've got to affect to get them all fighting you have to be in two pretty tight ranks Right. Yeah, that's a good point. Yep. So Yeah, I mean like I said to me it it is a valid choice between these two I think it's really just like your list and strategy dependent as to what's the right unit for you um Yeah, so there you go Um Okay, good. So yeah, both battle line both good choices Yep, well done and and both have a cool slightly different play to them Can I shadow stonkers?  So good on you Not a lot of that going around No more no more minus one to shoot. They just have a better say Yes, yeah, they lost their minus one to be to be hit They are about a line in calibron as mentioned earlier. They're 150 points for nine of these folks But you're it's not nine wounds. It's more because you get the shroud queen lady in here who has a wound's characteristic of three So you're technically getting 11 wounds in the unit For that 150 points and they still have your teleport She's got mini heart render the The leader of this she's just mini heart render Not as much red.  You take them Okay, my argument on shadow stonkers is you use them as a backfield deck chair sitting unit that threatens late game teleport Objectives and and just general harassment so Yeah, and and they lost their what six up mortals on shooting What you weren't doing anyway because you were too close by the time you were at that point So like it that's fine like you're you're right put them in the backfield You know deploy them in a way so people can't deep strike upon you and then once that their threats are down Then go in their back line and harass them and then move away and strike and fade strike and fade Yeah, I don't I think they are probably slightly overcosted right now given the loss of the different abilities But they're still a very threatening unit like to me they feel a similar role as tree revenants in the sylvaneth army Honestly a little more punchy in in general But like one of the things that really makes me love tree revs is they're cheap Right like I can I can have the deck chair sitter teleport threat guys on the cheap I'm paying a little more of a premium here, right sort of I mean Tree revs are 80 They have five wounds this unit has the equivalent of I believe 11 wounds eight models and then uh, yeah So 11 wounds so I mean that's roughly You you know, that's roughly 160 points by tree revs center, but yeah, I give what you're saying though Uh a lot of folks and I certainly did this would use them as a teleport screen So again with keldron. That's really nice.  I mean tom just said they're one of the best anvils in the in the army And I don't disagree with that Um, you know, they are it does make them a lot tougher, especially if they're within a Cauldron's ridiculous shield shield, right? part of me wishes they they had not necessarily A cast but I wish they had a dispel on them Since they are like shadow magic just because backfield all of a sudden I have things to dispel you with something a little extra Not necessarily something breaking, but to make it worth the points they're currently at Yeah, yeah Yeah, I would be really curious to explore and or hear from folks who again try to lean into a unit like this Maybe a combination of some of these units you don't see as much and look at some Um at shooting play styles, you know some off the off the path play styles It'll like for example The potential of multiple and we'll get into them the heart renders who can auto move when after they shoot they come in They deep strike and they auto move six inches, right? You have two by five come in There's 10 bodies that your opponent can't do you could you know, traditionally you zone out Uh, the telepo deep strikers teleporters coming in to deny them being able to get within six And the objective right you zone that out Well, you've got tricks with this army that you can mitigate their ability to do that And you can have two by five come in that's 10 models that will guarantee get on that objective. That's 10 bodies right there Yeah, I think there could be some interesting play with these Leaning to them. I mean my question is if you're playing caliber on is it 150 points worth getting three Points at the end because hold the line you just keep hiding out one unit that'll be Yeah, sure you should run them like it's like is that worth is that worth it? Is that a is that a potential playing caliber on? Oh, that's interesting. Yeah It feels like Yeah, there's there's some opportunities here with this unit, but maybe a little a little overpriced not by much No, not by much. I mean, I'm literally saying like maybe 140. I think I would feel better Yeah, like it's it's we're talking small here. This isn't this isn't a high gladiatoric situation Um, and honestly, I don't hate him at 150. It's not like they're bad I mean most armies would be super happy about a you know An auto teleporting unit with a decent enough profile. Yeah, I'm still gonna look at them. Yeah Yeah so Okay, cool uh Doomfires, uh, the unit that would be you know good solid in any other book and will continue to be not taken in Daughters no matter what tom tells you or has tried to make happen over the years It's never gonna happen. So just let it go But yeah, I mean they're fast. They have two wounds. They have a five up save. They're still a wizard They still have their doomfire spell And importantly They are Actually another source of plus one to cast Yep, because they have a bad one to casting and unbinding roles And in fact, I think they're the only source of plus one to unbind In the army because shadow stone is only on the cast That's true. Yep The only source to plus one to cast non lower spells non. Yeah, correct. That's true Yep, so if you're trying to power out like generic endless spells or something like that um So they do have an angle here even this unit, which I don't think will honestly see much play But I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Maybe people will surprise me I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I just that's my my my intuition is they'll continue to be not seen a lot Um, but they're reasonably costed at 145 for five with the capabilities they have like they're a completely reasonable unit Again with buffs I mean Good, good. So, yeah, if you have a unit of 10 and um, you want them to be putting out your mind razor I mean, that's a pretty big Block in the center of your army to touch whatever you need to do wherever you want to go with it Mm-hmm Yeah, I really good mobility Yeah, I mean again, yeah any other book or most of the books these are fantastically priced and would be a would be a great pick Yeah, my problem. I have two problems one. This is the daughter's okay I know they wrote lower for it do Do these dudes out here? Yeah, and I know tom did some great conversions and I thought about doing it, but I just couldn't Oh couldn't you couldn't be asked to do that? Um, two This is the only instance I can think of where we have a dual kit This can also be the dark riders like this. Doomfires should just be in cities Yeah Like they should have never been here. I don't know why they were Ever put here completely agree. I I have 20 and it's just like I just can't bring myself to ever put him in a list Yeah But yeah, like I said, I If they suddenly started showing up like if people started showing up with a five pack to power out in a particular end of spell Or some other Or something like that. I wouldn't be like, oh, I what are they doing? That's crazy That is, you know, I would think like, okay cool. People did have the room where they found a way to make it work That's what I would think Yeah, it's sorry go ahead. Yeah, one little detail about it You know check the I believe the lore Specifies doctors became hero and oh does it this is not sorry hero unit So I don't believe they're getting access to the lore spells It does it does. I'm sorry. I'm thinking of a The older books I'm mixing it up. So no the good correction. Um, I uh I throw one in I throw like a unit these in every once in a while to a list and I'm never impressed I've done that for since every book. I've thrown just five or just keep trying to make it work It's like maybe this time. They'll do something amazing. I want them. But no, yeah, no, thanks for the correction on that Tyler No, good call Okay, so yes, they do not have that. I was I was going to look at that as well. Good call All right, the avatar of kane this guy this guy had an interesting little glow up He's he's kind of uh, I'll be interested to get everybody's take on this dude Uh, nine inch move nine wounds four up save. Obviously. He doesn't need to be prayed to activate anymore. He just is So cool Still gets that as we mentioned earlier the plus one to chanting for people around him built in five award And he has this sort of non monster monster actions, which is he can rampage Or he can he can monsters rampage. This is a behemoth by the way He has a totem So he can issue commands in a long range. So that's neat uh, but he He can monsters rampage even though he's not actually a monster Which may Matter very little for the life of this book that is to say like right now. It's important, but in Clock is ticking I don't know a month in a week or something perhaps Who knows, you know, like realistically beginning of july was when the last ghp came out. So The time of the monster mattering may matter less Although he doesn't count. He counts as two for cap not five, which will probably remain and you know is important Um, but he can only do stomp or smash to rubble The interesting thing is he cannot be picked to be the target of a monster's rampage Like he has his own weird built-in hunters of the heartlands. So he can't get other monsters rampages against him Um Yeah, I don't know what to think of this guy. He's 155 Tyler, what's your what's your what's your take on this guy? I think he's gonna struggle to find a home But but go ahead Yeah, I love this guy, but I mean I could see him being a part of a list with Witch elves sort of slaughter in the lines with the totem I could but more importantly, yeah, I mean my play style is always Predicated, I mean with silvaneth stormcast it's predicated on Hitting from sides from the kind of the classic warm of fantasy daco daco play style and to me This is a perfect piece for that. I've been playing a lot of bashing car flows You know, we had that discussion. What's the role for bashing, right? What's he doing? Well, bashing is an extraordinary distraction card effects You buff him up Warding lantern, etc You translocate him you put him on his side Often the times he's a piece that your opponent needs to deal with He's so difficult to deal with this is he's kind of this is like a bashing light piece to me So I definitely could see this finding a home in kelobron multiple ones finding a home in kelobron where you're just kind of Having a launch pla launch pad play style with these pieces. You're hitting them with witch brew sacrament of blood They have totem so they can buff up themselves. They can operate independently Nine wounds nine inch move Detect profile that's going to easily be on twos and twos minus two or in three damage four attacks What the buff cannot be stomped or cannot be roared Because of the wrath of cane Built in five of boards. I think it's an amazing piece for 155 personally I could That's to me is one of those areas where I would love to see people Trying out Two three even four of these in a list to see how it goes Just in terms of the I think the play style that that you could lean into And and the impact these could have in terms of around the battlefield You know killing chaff going after small wound heroes spreading your opponent out minimizing what they can come Into your lines with yeah, I think they've got a lot of play Okay, chuck Yeah, I'm also a big fan. I think the only person that would rival that for me is is wanting to include two more of these on the list Besides style here would be chump hammer He maxes them out all the time, but uh, I I love them I would brand them when you had to pray to activate them And now I just look at it. It's cheaper because I don't have to also have a hag queen nearby to try and activate them Granted I could also give witch brew to and it was exciting to do that and watch it be choppy But the five up ward gives a little bit more survivability Um and just yeah, but kind of like what Tyler said, I will run it next to a unit of witch elves Uh, not so much. Just there's a slaughter all the time Um more witch elves just because like a they'll they'll keep up better because they're gonna charge with both and all that Um the totem the totem synergy. Yeah. Yeah, and I love I love the fact that uh, it's a monster without being a monster in a weird way Yeah, I get the actions because this this army lacked the actions only the shadow queen could do it. So Uh, yeah, I like that.  It's nice to have those abilities Uh and be willing to throw this at a monster because it can do decent damage to a monster Um, but knowing that if I die, I'm uh, you know currently giving up The fact that I'm a monster too. Sure All right. I want to keep moving because my dogs are literally barking. Um I might feed just like my dogs want to go out and they're trapped down here with me So we're gonna move move with relative haste here Okay, um bloodstalkers are bloodstalkers. They're what you think they are their snakes and they shoot and they do mortal wounds On sticks to hit still So There we are And there's still 180 for five and their battle line as mentioned with earlier with the either the malusai general or in xanthar kai um As we said earlier probably should have moved that mortal wound to the wound roll and That would be better or we should have made them 20 points more expensive. I would have accepted either Um 180 sorry tyler mortal wound shooting just needs to be more expensive You can you can hate it all you want, but it's the case Judicators are correctly pointed eat it. Oh, they are. Yeah. Uh, anyway, we won't get into it Sure Blood sisters though now we're talking my language. Here we go, baby uh, so the glaives Three attacks three threes neg one one. You should just read that as twos and twos because uh That's what it is if you're fighting with these things in any reasonable way If you fit all tunes your list to use these things It's twos and twos And the important part here is after this unit has fought for the first time in a phase And after all of its attacks have been resolved You can pick one enemy unit within one inch of this unit Roll one dice for each model in the unit not who's within an inch just each model the unit And it's immediately after the fought they fought Um for each two plus that enemy unit suffers one mortal wound two plus crystal touch And not at the end of combat now. That's my favorite part. Yeah, not at the end of combat not on a three up Just two up zip zap Not to mention all the ways you could I fight with him and then he'd be like, okay.  Yeah, just just naturally.  I agree like cue the transformers music. Uh, you do in fact have the touch You've got the power. I love these so much I love charging a man and keeping like a hero within an inch and then not attacking the hero at all I attack the unit like, you know after the pile in Pile into within an inch of the hero you chop the unit to bits and then you just turn to the hero and like And just turn him to stone Uh, I also you get by the way a good song recommendations for when attacking with blood sister Certainly, you've got the touch from the transformers soundtrack. I would also accept elos turn to stone Uh, so all all of those will work. Um, yeah at 140 for five. I'm a buyer. Um Yeah, yeah, just an inordinately powerful unit now with uh with with how all this works What's the reasoning then for real quick? Why this works with the fight on death with zanthar kai? It has to do with whether or not the individual model counts as the unit fighting because that's that's where the trick comes in Like there's an FAQ question here. Okay, if you the trick is uh If it's the second time you fought Right, like if you already fought and then you do you go down to zanthar kai's death frenzy and you fight again It definitely doesn't trigger There's no question there because it's only after the first time The FAQ question comes into the fact like okay. Well, this model's fighting Is this model equivalent where it says after this unit has fought at this unit, right? Right that difference in wording So my answer is I don't know it's it's worth an FAQ question like raw It probably doesn't trigger but I could see it as like somebody saying well Yeah, but it's fighting for the first time. Doesn't it feel like it's a trigger? I Right. I don't I don't know it because they could have I could see them FAQing it either way Like oh the model's part of a unit a unit consists of models if the model fought the unit fought in some way, right? So hence it can activate like It's sort of a squishy rules area. So Right on that's the discussion Um, I mean like if I if I'm playing it raw, I would I would not do it right now. Sure, right Um Yeah, phenomenal unit. We're gonna see a lot of these Yep kits it yeah, it's just the the most raw power like, you know, it's first line of this battle tone to me is 2 plus crystal touch A lot at the end of the combat phase Wonderful. We'll see a lot of blood sisters Um with the quiver still attached because people change bits out Hey, I built all melee snakes when I bought them kits And I am ready to roll. I got a lot of melee snakes Uh, so I'm I'm in like Flynn Good over here. No quivers on my girls Um, although if I made both snakes, I wouldn't attach the quivers anyways. I never put that crap on units Tell hot tip number one to painting armies faster leave that useless crap off of your units Okay Uh, heart renders and lifetakers 95 and 90 points respectively Uh, heart renders in my mind still have a unit or still have a roll lifetakers do not Uh, so lifetakers used to obviously be a thing that you could like juice up and Run their damage to the moon all those rules of like when they drop they gain all this bonus crap It's not it's not like that anymore It's just you can still set them up and reserve and they come down They have to be down by the end of three yada yada all that's still true The trick is the lifetakers just don't have a very good melee profile And they're extremely fragile as one wound models with a five up save um They no longer have the um the shield kickback of mortals either um like they used to And the trick with lifetakers is after they fight you can roll a die and on a four plus they can retreat six inches Which is cool, but it's not every time Whereas the heart renders can drop pop with their ranged attack because they've got a 12 range attack still Now you don't get the bonus rend anymore So it's just five shots on threes and threes neg one one don't bet on it for a lot of damage But then they can fire and fight fire and flight automatically They don't make the roll anymore. So now after they shoot they can just move six inches, which is great Yeah I think in isolation the lifetakers are well pointed for what they are again read that as essentially 11 attacks at twos and twos minus one rend excellent flexibility That's far better than tree revenants tree revenants do nothing in combat at 80 points So I think in isolation. Yeah, it's a solid unit But you're not going to see them that much. I don't think unless again You have to shave off some points here or there and you've got to go with the lifetakers Yeah, heart renders would love to see an msu play style like four Units of these in the list and you're leading is that idea of combo damage dropping into at a time Let's say one or two at a time taking Whittling down units on an objective from range And then dropping these into to nab objectives. I don't know just kind of Be something interesting there that you could do Yeah, heart renders. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean lifetakers were never meant to be some offensive powered melee unit Unfortunately, we just nerfed them a little too much. I think like now they felt and not having a role now I would I would still give them a look at their current points if they kept that bounce back mortal wounds Because they're going to die whether they go into so like that that would be the thing I'd wish they still had to give them that look and be like, okay I can throw a five and at a horde and bounce hopefully a bunch of wounds back, but that's about it. Yeah, totally check. Yeah But somebody tried to do that to me with 10 protectors With a bucket of attacks just try to Suicide five lifetakers in and just to get me done. Yeah, roll a bucket of dice and try to roll as many successes as they could Anyway, yeah, yeah, it would be cool Did you just star soul mace him to death? Uh, no, you have to roll out all your attacks Sure, sure fair point, uh pile in like away and bring the star souls in Because your unit still got didn't go farther away, right? You just kind of swip swamp the guys there switch ranks at any rate, um the Yeah, I mean heart renders are still quite valid to me. I have two units of heart renders in my my chosen list I think the fact that they can drop and float automatically is good It's not overpowered anyway because they're not doing mostly any damage when they come down for the most part They're really just a tricky piece for sort of board objective control threat stuff like that, which I like Again, that's part of the challenge. These guys fill the tree rev roll to me actually a lot better than The shadow stonkers Yeah, yeah, sure Because they're they're about the same. They're like they're where I want right? I'm buying wholesale I understand like wounds to point ratio, whatever, but in the end I get a I'm building a list of 2 000 points, right? That's what it comes down to So I'm not building a list of 200 wounds or something, you know, so Uh, cool Uh, whoops. All right Uh, all right Here's what I'm gonna do Does anyone here in this current show Want to defend The viper or bladewind? Not in the current edition I would have defended blade wreck viper in the previous edition not the station Uh, just too too much for I feel what you're getting and especially with the meta that we're generally expecting to be heading into an upcoming month and So and you know blade one not interested but heart of fury is a completely different story. Sure like I I could see some small argument for viper in that it It weirdly counts as a monster and can stomp on someone So if you have nobody else who can stomp it can do a free d3 mortal wounds, which would make it better than most Uh, endless spells because most endless spells actually struggle now to even do a d3 mortals But it's way overcosted like at 80 points. That is wild It's on a it's on a base seven says we've discussed. You're not able to benefit from shadow stone On that so you're just looking at flat out seven or you're looking at doomfire warlocks to get you a plus one Yeah, they have flagmore models. So yeah, and bladewind is completely worthless. Get out of here with this nonsense Okay, so not even gonna we're having to talk about it. So dumb Uh Heart of fury though now we're talking. Okay, so this is obviously an invocation not a um Not a a endless spell can often be brought out on the answer value of two because of your bonuses Uh, and it's 45 points and effectively gives you coalesced minus one damage like it had like it did before for the most part um during the phase during combat specifically so This I don't hate Fantastic. Yeah, I think heart of fury is actually pretty good It's gonna be in a lot of lists. Yeah this piece Like again, it's actually a good defensive tool in an army without many defensive tools Uh, that's relatively easy to control and get out And even on the downside where it does blow itself up effectively, right? You're getting something great on the way out. Yeah, it gives you like a really great buff on the way out Yeah, yep If we're truly moving toward, you know, a quote unquote horde meta with one a lot of one damage Then okay, maybe this doesn't make the cut as much as it would have in the Season that we've just gone through I'm laughing at frog arms comment viper is great. You can spend 80 points to level up your opponent's crown spire That's good Yeah But no, I'm a big fan of heart of fury. So it's it's in my current craith lists for sure agreed Okay Real quick. There's all the points All right, tyler. We're gonna I'm gonna give you like three minutes Tyler as like we said, this is sort of a timmy johnny book Or sorry, timmy spike book. I apologize to sort of a timmy spike book But tyler ever the johnny was trying to build his His johnny list Uh, so tyler three minutes take us through what you got right on Well, this is an example in terms of this the challenge for for the community I mean, let again, let's see if you love marathi do it Have fun. Let's see some non-marathi list. This is a variety pack List there's one two three four five six seven eight nine different war scrolls All the number I was talking with events, baby vault wars next year We do some kind of variety pack award You got to have a minimum number of warscrolls Is it 10 did I skip or one two three four five six seven eight nine? Oh, you're right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you're right nine Yep Because you because you took witch elves instead of a unit of sisters a slaughter right there You could you could have gotten to 10 you got the points. Absolutely got the points for it. Yeah Should have done it and I mean you yeah, there's a lot going on with this list It's not as obvious, but And it's leaning I've talked a little bit about on this episode Kelebron is the obvious johnny play you can lean into a number of different play styles with this You've got your combo damage potential a seven fold shadow with blood rock medusa. There you go We're going into a horde meta. That's going to be part of a combo piece with burning down a unit 30 divided by six five mortal wounds right there. You've got your Blood stalkers you've got the shadow stalkers that can be your teleport screen. Keep them screened off You've got two by 10 witch elves a good footprint 25 millimeter bases You can get really good coverage You can do double layered protect yourself from a double turn So that's why I did like witch elves rather than liberators that are more just obvious anvils as allies Incidentally allies. I mean that's a whole other show I think there's a lot of ally choices to get some johnny play with this with this army in general five heart renders That idea of the combo damage where again, you you whittle down a unit you bring them in you still an objective avatar of cane There's your distraction piece. I mean you can use that in a number of different ways You've still got a huge Hammer unit with the 15 melee snakes that right there is zealous order is I mean that's an immediate threat It's difficult to burn through 15 of them. You can pull them out of combat in the next turn regardless who's going Bring them back up on a four plus There's there is crown of woes there sacrament of blood to accelerate the table Heart of fury is there to minimize damage. You've got multiple pieces and hunters Like there this I just wanted to throw out like this is the first list that I wrote looking at the book Throw out a list that has combined arms That can do a number of different things And be a really interesting play style. I think while running a wide range of the of the model range Yeah, I think there's many many different lists like this Some that can be more thematic leaning into I mentioned martin wolf's Shadow stalkers plus avatars of cane You could drop down from 15 blood snakes or 15 melee snakes to two avatars of cane Where you've got two distraction harassment objective Harasser chaff killing little hero killing pieces that are going around the table while you've still got 10 melee snakes 10 bow snakes. You've still got the hagman on cauldron I just think there's a ton of play with with this kind of list Is that right on good you did it three minutes you got there All right, awesome. So there you go. That's doc. I mean overall like I said My summary would be honestly good internal balance. There are a few scrolls that I think are are wrong in points Like the high glad atrix needs to move up life takers don't really have much of a role Still interested to see what becomes of doomfire warlocks and whether people do start trying out the avatar of cane I think those are the big question marks in my mind Um, you know great different choices on sub factions. I hope we see a lot of different stuff played there I like that there are multiple paths to victory multiple different unit constructions and army constructions like it's It makes me happy as the melee snake person I can run the list I want, but I know you know chuck as you mentioned you you like you miss the big locks of witch elves That's back on the table again. Yep, right so and It's funny because All three of us have talked about lists we like and I don't think any of us have included marathi in those lists Not that she's bad by the way. That's not at all what I'm saying It's just the three lists we happen to love don't have marathi in them But I'm sure but you've also obviously got that as an avenue as well. She's yep. She's still a good piece Uh, so really I think it's it's a solid book Um gives a lot of different and and valid options Um, it feels very glass canony. It feels very daughters of cane what it should be It will hit super hard in its turn and fear the hit back Real bad. He used to losing models Yeah, yeah, yeah things will die I'll say I have nothing to add that you guys didn't already just elaborate perfectly, uh in in the Keep keep things short what I will do is I'll ask everyone in chat right now Grab yourself a d6 that I'm sure you all have like I do just see my desk and I want you to roll it. All right The four plus welcome to craith. 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I can see... Hi, Corbin.  I'm Corbin. I'm Rick. And you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter. Oh, juicy. I think we're also on Patreon. Follow the official Twitter account. Follow the official 2.0 channel as well. Thank you so much. It's true. I'm glad that Ashley moved to the new location too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really kind of you. Thanks, Ash. But, uh... Something you've been asking for since the inception of... The inception of the... This is right now, as it stands, the longest... No. The second longest from request to reaction we've ever had. No, I am. I think I know there's one that's probably longer. What? Monochronica. Money? Oh, no. People don't... I mean, this has been more requested before the watch. Oh, this has been more requested for sure. Yeah, but I mean, that was one of our first reactions. One of the first reactions. But yeah, this has been... That has been an interview. I think the minute we reacted to Gully Boy, this was one of the first films that people said you should react to. We do get to them. Yes, we do. Very slowly, but we do. Also, the move has made it so our watching movies... Yes, slow down a little. Hopefully it's... And we also had said, we've got to get to this. Let's wait and we'll do this closer than Halloween time. So we finally did it. We did it. Go us. Came out last year. Tumbad. I want to read this on an outside phone. I do. A mythological story about a goddess who created the entire universe. The plot revolves around the consequences when humans build a temple for her first born. Pretty accurate. Yeah. Yep. And it's directed by Rahi Anil Barbe, if I'm pronouncing it correctly. And writer, producer, director Anand Gandhi. So there's two directors on this. I don't know what that means. Nobody I recognized when watching it, did you? No. Yeah. It's starring, I believe. I'm trying to find the main guy. I think that's him. Sofam Shah? Yeah, I think that's the main guy. That could be wrong. But, yes. Oh, and I realized there's two things I wrote down as notes. I remembered one of them, but there's a second one. I want off my phone here. So, let me grab this. Okay, we're good. I'm just going to find exactly the two things I wrote down. I'm going to wait for you to find it so I can cut out to that point. There it is. Okay. So, this is a movie that we waited to watch. One, because it looked scary to us. Yeah, which I remember we were going to watch it. And you started to watch it. And because Corbin knows me, he sent me a message that said, you're not going to want to watch this. It's just not your cup of tea for your kind of film. I watched about the first 10 minutes. Right. A few months back. And so, sorry, we could have had it in a while ago. We could have, but I'm glad we waited. Yeah. And yes, there's the two things. I've said this before on the channel. The two things I don't like on films is my least favorite genre is horror because for the most part, many horror films are made brainlessly. And it's the easiest of the genres to do. It doesn't require a lot of talent to scare somebody anymore than it requires a lot of talent to fart and make people laugh. But the, I don't mind horror and scary. In fact, I do like horror and scary as long as it doesn't go into the glorification of the demonic. That, for me, is the categories. I can pull it off to the side. And I also don't like outright porn in my movies. So I think you thought that maybe this fell into that category for me. Well, because at the first 10 minutes, it's very different than the rest of the film. It is. And so it kind of changed a little bit. So sorry about that. I think it's the right time for us to see it. Yes. Yeah. I actually really, really enjoyed this film. I actually did too. You know what it reminds me of? Guillermo probably really likes this film. Yeah. It'd be interesting to see if you saw it. It reminds me a lot of Guillermo del Toro film. Yeah. It has a little bit of differences. It tends to be, obviously, there's a lot of mythological stuff, if that's the right word, for Indian mythology. Which is, I promise you, even with that, oh, by the way, spoiler review. If you haven't seen this, which most of you probably have, but if you haven't, I go see it because we're about to just talk about everything in it. Even though it starts off with that story, which was helpful, telling us about the origin of everything going on, there's still a ton of this. I know, just like with Natsumrat, there was some stuff mythologically and culturally and everything else that was just way above our heads. Yeah. It was mostly a story about the curse of this family and the greed that they have. It's really much just about the greed, like the opening line from Gandhi. Yeah. Obviously, I think it was something along the lines of there's enough for everybody in the world, there's not enough for everybody's greed. Correct. And I really had an aha moment at the very, very end. Because as I want to understand, that's one of the biggest things for me in any situations, I really want to understand something. So I found myself struggling so hard to try to understand stuff that I'm not going to understand right now. Same thing with Natsumrat. I need to learn more about the culture. I need to learn more about the mythology. And it was at the very, very end I went, oh, got it. So before we get to the end, ultimately I would say you agree that this is a, if you're filming the blank, do see it, don't see it. I would say this is a do see it. Oh, 100% see it. Yeah, absolutely do see it. Yeah, 100% see it. It's very, very right for you. Light it a lot. The differences between the Guillermo, that's the close thing I can't compare it to. His is a little more monster empathetic. Correct. Because he loves monsters. He loves monsters. Yeah. But this did have the monster aspect too, but that's just not the story it was given. It was more about the, this is a mythological type. And unlike anything we've seen. Unlike anything we've seen. Something like that, right? Yeah. Unlike anything we've seen. Very unique, very original, which is why I think a lot of people were wanting it for the Oscars. Yeah. I'm not going to get into that, but I think the Gully Boy has a better chance of getting the nominations in this everyone. Yeah. Even if this had a ton of like artisticness and it was really original, but we still stand with that. But I really loved the, one, the acting was just brilliant. Yeah. Across the board. The opening I thought was fantastic. Yeah. Really well set up of, well they're feeding this woman. That's not a woman in there. And it's just her and the kids. And then the kids are having to do it alone. I really, it was a very interesting, because it opened with her giving basically, pleasure to them basically, right? Hi. And it's really, what is this relationship? What is going on? Yeah.  And then you got to see the monster, essentially. And great script writing in the beginning, whereas many times we've been upset with the laziness of script writing, because at the outset, they just tell us what's going on. Tell us the relationships. They didn't do that in this. Like you figured out. You had to figure it out. You didn't, you thought, okay, they're related in some way. And that's clearly, they're related in some way. And you, you didn't get to be told that. Yeah. The colors in this were brilliant. It obviously different from like a Sanjay. Very different color. Very different. This is like deep, like almost like, I don't know the word for it. It's Guillermo's style. But Tim Burton's style in terms of dark beauty. Correct. Right? Correct. That's no other way. Yeah. That was one of the other things that didn't pull it into the level of being more horrific for me. Yeah. It didn't, it didn't feel like it was trying to be horrific. It felt like it was trying to be scary. Yeah. And it, it, even there were some shots with the lighting. I felt like the director and the production design team all together, they were really trying to make something beautiful. Yeah. You know? And it wasn't Sanjay kind of beauty. He has his own aesthetic. This is its own aesthetic that I thought matched the content. Yeah. I thought it was 100%. And the majority of the visual effects and makeup were great. And practical. Very, very good. I love it. Yeah. I love it when you do, because to do a story like this that has to do with some mythological monster, you have to, even though like you could like, oh, I can make a really cool looking with CGI, it never comes across as believable like practical does. No. Like there were some moments when there's a bunch. Yeah. There was a moment towards the end where the dad and the son are in there and there's multiples of them bouncing off the walls. I could see the CGI. It reminded me of like the initial CGI creations of Gollum and the First Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Where you go back and look at it and now you're like, oh yeah, I see the CGI. Yeah. But nothing. So it wasn't anything that pulled me out of the story. No.  And I'm sure this is a story like a lot of Indians know. Right. Like it's a common mythological story, but we had no idea what it was. So I was trying to figure out so there's a treasure at the bottom of the well. It's cursed treasure, like Pirates of the Caribbean. Right. Like what's going on here? But like, so it's like a full on, not Greek, I know it is, but that's the only thing I can obey to do. Like Greek mythology. Yeah. Like there's just God or demons that you have to steal the coins from. Right. It was really unique in that aspect and so really interesting that you had to go down there each time. Yeah.  Right. So it was really unique. And I watched it with my wife. She was like, I really, really enjoyed it. She was like, it was so sad to me. And which is something that, you know, she takes away, she has a really unique aspect to film. She sees the house. Like that's not what I took away from it, that it was sad. But she took away from the family aspect. Like this family has been ruined by their... Yeah. Greed. Yeah. That is the curse or the greed of the family. At the very, very end when the dad is burnt up and going to be dying. That's when I had the aha moment. And the two aha moments I had was these phrases, greed will consume you. That's the moral to the story. Greed, literally, that's what happened to him. And that's what was happening to... I forget what they're called. But remember when he had them go up and fall and they just... The dust and their appetite for what they were going after was also just pure greed. So everything that was motivated by greed, every being that was motivated by greed, whether you were a tree in the ground or the bread-eating demons or the... If that's what they were, I don't know what they were, or the humans, greed will consume you. And the other thing was the phrase, all that glitters isn't gold. The whole idea of the things that you truly value. But it took a while for me to get there. You probably got there a lot sooner than I did because I was trying so hard to remember everything of the mythology and just had to give up at one point. Because I thought, I'm not going to try... I was never trying to understand it. Yeah, I was always fighting to understand it.  So that's your job. And if you do your job correctly, I shouldn't need a lot of background information for the most part. For the most part. Except for the cultural underpinnings. Like for example, here in America, if you see certain films that are American-centric in terms of our storytelling, which is, if it's not American, it comes from Greco-Roman era. It's all westernized. There's not a lot you would have to do. We could easily pick up on the symbolisms of things that were from... Oh yeah, now I'm talking about that culture. Yeah. I kind of gave up on that a while ago with watching Indian cinema. Like, I don't get a lot of this. It's just something I have to accept and we're going to learn it. But I'm talking about the film. It has to give you the information, regardless of the culture. Right, your perspective. To get your story, I need to be told certain things in order to get it. And they told me that through the whole thing. Yeah. And so I didn't feel like I was... I was like, I'm not going to understand the Greek. We know it's not Greek mythology. Sorry. We keep calling it Eastern. Whatever mythology it was, I was like, you're going to tell me what I'm going to need to know. And they did. They did a phenomenal job at it. I thought the directors, I don't know what... One of the directors that are credited for this. It was. But in terms of the storyline, the acting, the originality, and the coloring. Yeah. And the coloring was really nice. And I would have liked to have seen this on a big screen. Yeah. I did enjoy the score even though it was very subtle most of the time. Right? Yeah. I feel it because I didn't notice it a lot. No. And this didn't, I don't think, require it. There was enough on the screen too. To give that suspense at certain times. You need that suspense of what's going to have who's in the room. Like, one of the most suspenseful parts is the beginning when you're trying to figure out what this hag is in the other room. Yeah. All the way up, the very start of it all the way up to when she has to leave because the son, that really great moment, he says, you shouldn't have done that because now something bad is going to happen and he falls out of the tree. And then she's taking him and he's left there alone with the hag and he has to go feed the hag. All of that was, I'm trying to remember what it reminded me of but it was, it's just top notch story time. Yeah. Top notch dragging out and I mean, if she's driving away you're thinking to yourself, this little guy is going to have to stay here at night and feed that hag back there. And I was, I was relishing the creepiness of that. Yeah. Like, I can't wait until he's going down the hall and I know and there were a couple of moments that got so, in your face, gory, like, when she's on top of him and pulls the nails out of his face and it's dripping all over him. I literally watched it. I'm like, dang. Yeah. You're going all out right now. Yeah. It was barely reminiscent of Guillermo's Pan's Labyrinth Yeah. In terms of like a lot of people really love, I don't know how long ago you watched that movie. But it's been a when it came out. Yeah. That's how long it's been since I've seen Pan's Labyrinth. That's one of my favorite films. Guillermo's one of her favorite directors, but the, it's actually quite gory if you remember. Yeah. For being such a, like it's a really sweet story, but it's also, it gets very uncomfortable. Dark and uncomfortable and so that's the thing I'm not saying I'm not comparing it to the film. No. I don't like that thing I am but that's just what I have to relish. This is what it closest reminds us to in our own experience. It's nothing like it. At all. Nothing at all, but this is the closest comparison we have. But I know you hate it when I do that. But yeah. Well the movie it doesn't remind me of 300. No. It doesn't remind me of not at all. Or Fast and Furious or Mission Impossible. No. No. But yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed this film. I think like if you give it a second watch as well you pick up on a lot more and I think like if you give it a second watch as well you pick up on a lot more I'm sure would and obviously this is you guys this would be a fun one to watch with people who haven't seen it just to watch them respond. Like I'd love to watch this with Ashley Alexis and Micah. Micah would be like this all the time. Ashley and Alexis especially Ashley Ashley would be like oh yeah. Yeah. That's she pulls it Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would just love to sit and learn more. Like apparently this is also from other written works by I believe it's Narayan Dharap that the script comes from the writings of Narayan Dharap. I would really like at some point to be able to dive into some of this and understand a bit more of the original story behind this the mythology the fantasy whatever that is and then do another comparison of how well and I'd love to hear from you guys I think you're all going to say they did a great job because all we've gotten over and over again is please when are you going to react to Tumbad when are you going to react to Tumbad when are you going to react to Tumbad and how does this work translating stuff from this written work onto screen this cinematographer yeah was the cinematographer a header well no wonder it looks so good yeah and he works probably a lot with Vishal which Vishal knows how to use deep rich color absolutely and maybe that's why maybe Vishal uses them a lot and then this cinematographer is ridiculously good at that that's like the entire time it's one of those things it's just beautiful in a different way than we say beautiful in Sanjay's and other things right it's a dark beauty it's the only thing and the predominant color spectrum for this was really great uses of red really really great uses of red and it was such a when they're going down into basically the mother's womb right basically where they're going right it was really unique how they did it so they were climbing down but it looked like they were climbing up up right until they flipped the camera over and they did that every time to like you're in a different world different realm exactly so it's really unique and I love that it was really seamless the crane work I'm betting that it was as was the symbolism of the consumption that takes place like the consuming nature of the greed which begins with the hag who is who is first of all bound and chained but then when he comes back later she's actually become part of the ground and he has that laughing fit which is so macabre and twisted that was like oh grandma you've become one with a tree and the tree has grown through her and the agony of the being alone and having the thing consume you and then his buddy who becomes part of the womb in there and slowly becomes just eaten by it it's just the symbolism I'm sure we're missing a lot of it was really really good yeah that was really great thank you for your patience great halloween movie and oh yeah it really is yeah and they said they don't have a lot of those over in India yeah is halloween's not really celebrated yeah it is but not not like the other holidays no in fact they want they want to know that's one of the holidays that were repeated please do something and tell us more about what you guys do there on these holidays like halloween and thanksgiving they're not as familiar with that as they are for example Christmas many many people celebrate Christmas over there but halloween thanksgiving halloween is a pagan holiday you celebrate Satan halloween's a big one here yeah big one but yeah that was great thank you so much for the recommendation and thank you for your patience everybody I know we're going to get these comments of oh I can die now and I'd give it through and through it was an amazing film there was not really there was not a week act or there wasn't a week script part of the script I thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed this film I thoroughly enjoyed it I wouldn't give it an A plus simply because for me A plus films are the ones that I would put on my list of I never want to not you know I've got to recommend that Schindler's List is an A plus for me Braveheart's an A plus for me I would give this a minus which means I still liked it and I still would watch it and I still would recommend it but I wouldn't it's not a perfect movie to me well first of all it's not a universal movie in that I got lost in the storytelling the mythology and the background and the culture so as an audience member I couldn't become fully immersed in it to that extent so it's not universal immersion that can take place in it and then secondarily there were just some pacing things probably because of me trying to figure those things out it felt slow at times for me where I was often times with the movies I love the most I'm not even aware of the pacing of the film so because I was aware of the pacing and as good as the acting was there wasn't anything Oscar level in this for me it was very solid very believable I very much enjoyed it but it wasn't any I was never looking for anything Oscar worthy I was just looking for a really good performance I think you've given your head a lot I do admittedly I do but for me for me an A plus rating for something is like one of my favorite movies of all time it used to be that no that's just me yeah I know there's much movies I would probably never watch again but I think it's an A plus film really? yeah I don't have to watch a film over and over it's certain films that I think are C plus but I watch them over and over oh that's true the watch movies I know are D's that I watch over and over yeah there's a bunch of films I would never watch again let us know what other films we should watch and from to you next down in the