Head and seek and seek and hide. Oh, I found Roger Where'd you find it? Where'd you find him the dank crunch article image? Is he let's look wait, which chain are you referring to? Krug says it took him a moment to realize that The 1997 website that I posted was not from 90 not from 2012 Why 2012 I know that's what that's all right about his comment. I'm so used to the ISO date format. Oh, that's why okay. Yeah Standards Because it starts with a 12 because it was 12 so Interesting yeah, so Patrick and I if you are not hearing the pre-show audio We're sharing our our earliest websites with each other And they are a wonder to look at they sure are Beatmaster is asking if there is a gr. It'll it'll come. It's one of those things where it takes I'm doing simulcast off of youtube so it takes a couple minutes Apologies for the delay That website that I put in there was the web version of my zine Because I did a zine So where did the name sub brilliant in the 90s The name sub brilliant come from from Oh, um, you thought it was like it's going to be funny self-deprecating, but it's like Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. But but it was inspired by the church of the sub genius Oh, I don't know what that is.  That is a late 80s early 90s Alternative movement It's pretty funny It's like mocking society And They uh I I started reading their stuff, you know when I would go see other zines and I thought it was pretty great So I was like, oh, I'm gonna be I didn't call myself a church and I said I'm gonna be sub brilliant Not sub jean. Is that guy still around? Yeah, um, I I see him pop up from time to time. There were there. I think I know what you're talking about reverend Stang, yeah, I think he was one of the big guys.  Yes I I remember possibly the bookstore clerks throwing them away. I don't know I remember though I remember that being the day of days when the onion was just a publication and not an actual online site no, I started sub brilliant news when I was still working at the library at the university of illinois and uh it it was I was really angry because I was like i'm not going to do church at the sub genius I'm going to do parody news. I'm going to do a fake newspaper and uh The onion like showed up on newsstands in champagne that week. It feels like it probably wasn't that week, but Like wait a minute. What? I used to wonder it's like, you know Because that that came out of the onion came out of wisconsin, right the university of wisconsin or? Yeah came out of madison madison Who would know they would build a media empire based on satire I know the fact that the onion's still around It's a pride like I tell people I just I got to I tell younger people Like I remember a time when before the onion was online only it's like, what do you mean? It's like, but you understand it used to be printed. It's like really? Yeah, they would give you like, why would anyone print? satirical news It's the same reason why what was the other one? um Was that magazine that set her magazine? I spy or something spy. Oh spy. Yeah spy Yeah, it's just called spy spy I spy with my little eye All right, shall we begin this? festivity It shall begin Excellent, we're gonna start with matt mark j Take it away mark j Quality content thrives through the support of those who benefit from its creation If you gain value from the daily tech news show consider joining others like me who provides support Learn how to help at daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the daily tech news for I think it's tuesday probably january 24th 2017 i'm top merit joining me as he does on tuesdays Mr. Patrick beige alongside patrick welcome to my upstairs studio also known as my dining room table Hey, uh, I heard you had a little bit of an incident with flooding. That's unfortunate Yeah, so not that this is the daily. What's up with tom's basement news show But the brief thing is that they they've cleared out everything in the downstairs They're gonna Leave it for today because I have to shoot some things for tech republic down there this afternoon So i'm gonna be able to do that because it's just big empty space right now And then tomorrow they're gonna put in tile And then I can move back in and so hopefully Thursday maybe friday i'll be back in the studio Excellent, but honestly, this is very cozy up here. I gotta say not minding it that much It's nice to have everything right here. I could use some improvements, but it makes me feel like i'm i'm I'm i'm fine tuning my mobile operation this way. Ah very important. Yeah well, we've got some things to talk about regarding the hyperloop and the new announcement from hyperloop transport technologies And we'll try to help you keep straight. What's hyperloop transport technologies and what's hyperloop one? We're going to talk about that in the main discussion Uh some other quick news box has updated box notes Take that evernote to view all notes in a single browser add desktop apps and they say they're working on phone apps Yeah, I'm not sure about box Uh microsoft has promoted linkedin's senior vp of infrastructure to microsoft's chief technology officer And a member of the company's senior leadership team Ah, so when they bought linkedin they bought a new senior leader and apparently he's going to stay vp of infrastructure for linkedin somehow I didn't quite get that part figured out Uh the wall street journal reports ios 10.3 will come with find my air pods a feature that'll let you Use the last reported bluetooth connection to help you narrow down the location of where they fell out of your ears ios 10.3 went out to developers on tuesday I have air pods. I have not lost them yet. I hope I don't jinx Yes, now here are some more top stories So samsung saw q4 operating profits rise 50 percent. It's highest operating profit in three years They had expected it to be a good quarter led by chip sales Not by note 7s. Obviously not by exploding batteries. We understand that's what you meant Although they did they did sell a lot of galaxy s7s So they the mobile device made division made a profit as well. Anyway samsung had a great financial quarter Especially considering the adversity that happened to them. However, they aren't buying all their chips from themselves They're buying them from other companies too the verge corroborated a report by forbs That sources say samsung has received the bulk of qualcom's new snapdragon 835 processors And as a result patrick no phone launching before the samsung galaxy s8 Is apparently going to be allowed to use the snapdragon 835 processor That would include the recently released htc u ultra the forthcoming lg g6 Which we're going to talk about in a bit and samsung has not announced a release date They say they're not going to have an announcement about the galaxy s8 at mobile world congress Although forbs and et news are both saying that they've heard sources tell them Amid april release could be coming for the next galaxy s Yeah, and so I understand this is not exactly the same thing But this is really surprising news because imagine If i don't know hp Said well, we really need a lot of those i'm gonna date myself here Pentiums and so the new pentium by intel before you know, it was the the naming convention and when we had the The 486 586 all of that No one else is going to get them because we're buying all of them. We've cornered the market on snapdragon 835s It's kind of crazy and i'm sure it's not going to last and there are other manufacturers and a bunch of things but It's it's kind of insane. I'm sure one of the reasons is that the 836 Production line is not fully ramped up yet. So there aren't enough You know, there aren't as many as there might have been for yeah I think maybe the proper way to look at it is not that they're cornering the market, of course We're just joking about that but but that samsung worked out a deal with qualcomm to say we get the first Ones to roll off the line And until we we get all the ones we want I don't want you selling any tanny anybody else We'll we're we're striking a deal to get all of them in that first round And yes, you're right obviously qualcomm is going to sell these chips to other manufacturers at some point But it is an interesting relationship because samsung is a competitor of qualcomm in making mobile chips And they're doing very well as we just found out in their financial report But samsung wants these chips. They're very good chips and they're willing You know, we don't know if they're paying or what kind of deal they're striking with qualcomm But they're willing to deal with qualcomm in ways in the past where they've had they've had trouble with qualcomm They've gotten qualcomm to agree to do this Maybe at least yeah sources It wouldn't be surprising if it's just, you know, we need them for our phones and we need to make a lot of phones So just give us everything you've got. Yeah, just we'll take it It's a smart move on samsung's part because a they know they're going to sell a lot of s8s because there is no note 7 Right, so people who just want to samsung are going to be looking at the s8 now There's a little pent up demand and they know they're going to have to do something to convince the people who don't want to samsung anymore because of the note 7 And having the only phone on the market with the qualcomm 835 snapdragon is One way they could try to do that LG will announce its next flagship I'm sorry next flagship android phone the g6 on february 26th During mobile world congress LG display has indicated the g6 will feature a 5.7 inch display With a 1829 or 2 to 1 aspect ratio The verge published an image of the top half of the phone which has a screen to bezel ratio of 90 percent so I am moving away from needing To report on every new phone that comes out obviously people are very excited about the g6 though because of the bezellessness of it Because of that that interesting aspect ratio, which you you'll see it expressed as 18 9 so that in your head you more easily compare it to 16 9 right? Oh, okay So that's a little wider than the normal aspect ratio, but when you reduce the fraction it really is just 2 to 1 I I think this is interesting I think LG Because samsung is not going to make an announcement getting you know a larger share of the attention of mobile world congress is good for it I don't And this is just a gut reaction. I don't get the sense That LG is going to turn the corner with this phone that this is the phone that's that's going to save LG If anything it it will keep it in the game Yeah, I mean They don't have the 839 835 chips so You know, what are they going to do? No, I mean it's they have their fans and LG has been I think it's the Second tier in just raw popularity, but when people look at devices the LG The late the last LG's have been really good. So I'm sure it will Sell well and that screen to to bezel ratio is pretty good. It looks nice if that's indeed the phone It's a pretty phone not gonna lie U. S president Donald Trump named FCC commissioner Ajit Pai as chairman replacing Tom Wheeler who stepped down with the inauguration on Friday Pai and fellow commissioner Michael O'Reilly sent a letter in December That the two planned to revisit the open internet guidelines as soon as possible Pai was an honors program trial attorney on the telecommunications task force in the u.s. Department of Justice's antitrust division from 1998 to 2001 He was associate general counsel for Verizon until 2003 Then he returned to government. He worked for a u.s. Senate subcommittee on oversight in the courts He worked for the department of justice in the FCC as a counselor and in april 2011 He went to work for the law firm generin block But that same year president obama nominated him to the FCC and he was sworn in as a commissioner on may 14th 2012 so He is eminently qualified as someone who you know, he's harvard educated He's been on both sides of this issue He's he's been with the companies. He's he's been on the the side of antitrust and the public But the one thing that I said in this that I know a lot of you are That's the only thing you're gonna hear is he wants to revisit those open internet guidelines And a lot of people feel that he and the other republicans on the commission Will work to overturn the net neutrality rules that Tom Wheeler put in place You know We could argue about this until the end of time I think the one thing to remember is that In the u.s. The offerings are suffering because there is not enough competition And for that's what I keep saying whenever we discuss this and for a country that prides itself for being the home of capitalism and of a free market enterprise it is Is A dismay To see that the people who should try to foster more fair and real competition Are are not doing that and I don't I mean we'll see what he does, you know, tom wheeler when he was nominated We were very very skeptical if not the head of the ncta the major lobbyist group for the telecommunications union A lot of people are pointing at ajipai and saying ah former verizon lobbyist He wasn't exactly a lobbyist However, he was certainly if he was much less of a lobbyist than tom wheeler was Yeah, and and tom wheeler was fighting for you know Freer internet and a more fair internet. So who knows but That's why I said I didn't want to get dragged into the the entire thing but if However, it works if it if if what they decide to do creates more competition than everything Could work itself out the fear is I like what you're saying patrick, which is the I have always felt that the root of the of the issue is that if we don't Have competition then companies can abuse their position to Adversely affect the open internet and wheeler's approach was to say well, let's put in rules That say you can't abuse your position to affect the open internet Ajit pai wants to remove those rules If he says and I think we won't need them because i'm going to do this to increase competition and roll out broadband in more places So you have a choice. I mean brian brushwood is living this in austin texas He happens to be in a location where he has multiple gigabit internet providers There are not very many places in the world that have that if if that's the goal Then I think that's a laudable goal, but we'll have to see Yeah, I mean What what frustrates me in these conversations is that sometimes in order to restore competition You need the government to intervene and that's where a lot of people say oh no no no no no then it It can't work And sometimes and maybe we're going to talk about this a little bit later when we're talking about Hyperloop, but sometimes yes sometimes you do need the government to step in At some point in the last few weeks amazon added the word computer to the list of wake words users of the amazon voice services get Choose from oh no. Oh no now.  I mean it's great. I love it The the problem with amazon voice services is not them adding a new wake word The problem with them is that your wake word is too easily triggered by I don't know podcasts They happen to be listening to um So I I I get it. Uh, I accidentally trigger siri from time to time I rarely ever accidentally trigger google the okay Before that really does help prevent those accidental trigger links. Hey Before kortana also seems to to help so maybe if it was just hello computer I think that would be awesome Yeah, well as we've spoken about before we wish they would do something else This is not going to solve that problem, but it's pretty funny. I get it Uh, the second us circuit court of appeals in manhattan voted four to four on whether to hear an appeal Of its decision forbidding the us government from forcing microsoft to turn over customer emails stored on servers outside the us This is the emails are stored in ireland microsoft says you need to get ireland to ask us to hand over the emails A us warrant doesn't cover it because the emails are in ireland Uh, the department of justice says yeah, but you're a us company So we give the warrant to you because we're in the us and it doesn't matter where your emails are because it's an internet and the internet's everywhere Uh, the panel of the district court, which was three judges Had made the decision that a domestic search warrant could not cover The foreign stored emails under the 1986 federal stored communications act And so the department of justice appealed that in the way you appeal with a circuit court Uh, in the united states is that you take it from the three judge panel to the full panel And the full panel only has eight people on it in the second circuit So a tie means the decision stands the dissenting judges said that they hope that a higher court Meaning obviously the supreme court Uh, would hear and overturn the decision or possibly the congress could act to change the 1986 stored communications act This is a really interesting problem. And I think a lot of people will take it You know, we'll look at it on the only from this side of the issue but if you Turn it around and you have a company that is I don't know from some south african South american country That gets ordered to Reveal information that it has stored in the us I wonder how many of the people looking at this and say yes, of course, they should give it because it's a u.s company You know, if the two weren't put together if they would say Of course, we should in the u.s The the computers that are on our soil We should give the information contained in these computers to the foreign government Right, that's yeah The problem is there are there are so many there are so few examples of the reverse the principle I get I get what the principle is but it's hard to illustrate it to people because you could say well If your information on alibaba Was asked for by china Even though it was stored by alibaba in the u.s Most people are like, yeah, but I'd never use alibaba, right? So you have to look at something like well skype although it's now part of microsoft So so that doesn't help as much but skype is located in europe And so if europe at the european union said we want to look at all your skype conversations Uh, we don't care if the the records are stored in the u.s It's it's easy It's one of those things where you're absolutely right patrick like the reverse is also true And you should be careful how you rule that obviously a u.s court decision doesn't change decisions in other countries But it does set a principle that other people can point to and yet it's hard to imagine What that reverse would look like because all of the major email providers most of the major cloud providers are Located in the united states even if they're storing their data elsewhere amazon produced menchester by the sea So the movie became the first movie from a streaming service to be nominated for an academy award for best picture Manchester received six total nominations the first oscar nomination for amazon amazon is also Distributing the salesmen in the u.s Which is iran's nominee for best foreign language picture Netflix was the first streaming company to receive an oscar nomination for the documentary the square in 2014 So this is interesting in a lot of different ways amazon Is acting as a movie studio here in the most traditional sense They are giving the 90 day exclusive window to theaters You can't watch manchester by the sea on amazon prime video yet you'll be able to they locked up all those rights obviously But they let this run through the theaters Which is why you can go to the major chain theaters and watch this movie That is different than what netflix does netflix hues very strongly to know day and date release We'll put it in theaters But you also will be able to watch it on netflix from the moment it's released now. I don't think that that necessarily affects The academy considering whether a movie is good or not But it affects the buzz because if it's not in a lot of theaters, you don't get as many people talking about it Well, how many people go to theaters really today? No, i'm getting a lot Of course, of course, I love the movies. Um, but yeah, no, I think it's it's interesting in many ways, but you know best documentary some people see it but best picture A lot of people are going to see That movie and they're going to I mean see that the movie is nominated and I think that is going to put amazon front and center for The the video services the the production And this is a bigger deal for in my opinion the industry You know the new kids in production netflix and amazon and maybe a couple of others A few years ago that would have been Unthinkable that some Books selling online retailer Right What what are you talking about the place where I order my dog snacks Is producing an oscar award-winning movie So I think it it actually does a lot of good for amazon, of course But also for netflix and for the others because it's not The youtube Even youtube isn't you know dancing cats anymore, but it sort of legitimizes the fact that they have grown out of that category and online Filmmaking is just as legitimate as any other filmmaking. I guess netflix has has proven it before and amazon after them as well but this just Confirms it with the industry as a whole you can make an argument that netflix is is Proving it better because netflix is allowing them to be seen online whereas amazon has has has not done as much to pressure theaters to give up The 90-day exclusive although theaters rightly don't want to give up that exclusive because they're worried about their bottom line We could have a whole separate argument about that I I think there is a way forward there watch cord killers for more on that discussion Which comes back from time to time, but but yeah, this is this is a big deal because When netflix first put lily hammer and house of cards out a lot of people were skeptical That they could actually threaten networks Then they started putting out documentaries and original movies and amazon started to doing the same thing and now amazon and netflix and to a certain extent hulu are actually Bigger than television networks. They're even bigger than movie studios. They're full-on studios like an mbc universal That does television and movies and other things Yet they are also entirely different because they don't have the traditional media properties like locally owned television stations and this and that But but then but they don't need them Yeah, you could argue netflix just had an amazing earnings report. It obviously doesn't need it It is a worldwide player faster than any other media entity has become a worldwide player Roughly speaking and amazon is doing this It's almost the opposite of netflix doing this in a little corner of its empire Which is ruled by cloud services and delivering the tripod that my camera is on this morning I mean, yeah, all of this is is almost old old news But the the legitimacy the recognition by the industry is milestone, I would say yeah Well to get all the tech headlines each day in less than 10 minutes You should subscribe to daily tech headlines.com and that's look at our top stories All right another story out there hyperloop transportation technologies announced. They'll open a 3000 square meter facility in toulouse, france I'm not trying to stereotype patrick by bringing this up on today's show the facility will be at the franca's all airport a former military base being redeveloped into an aerospace transportation village Htt will develop prototypes and conduct outdoor testing there Earlier this month htt announced a deal to contract or i'm sorry to connect the 140 miles between Bratislava, slavakia and burno in the Czech republic with a hyperloop train so We've heard the hyperloop one They have their contest out there where they're getting designs. They're talking with all kinds of countries Including the port of la finland late lately india They are going to do their first test this year htt says they're going to have their first test before the end of the year So hyperloop one said well our test is going to be in march Like we've got two companies taking very different approaches Competing on this if you have a hard time keeping them straight Hyperloop one is the one that does their test track in las vegas hyperloop transport technology Is the one that is building a test track in quay valley, california, but they might build a test track in toulouse now franca's al is how you pronounce franca's al franca's al yes, probably and uh, you know Stereotype me is stereotyping me as a french person. I I would be okay with it considering i'm french Um But that doesn't mean you know every single thing about every single thing that happens at france That is true. And actually I had not heard about this one specifically and I do follow the tech news for the country, of course so This was you know, but this is really interesting first of all because of what we've discussed a few times which is hyperloop is Actually happening and kind of like, uh, amazon winning or being nominated as an oscar a couple of years ago We were like, huh, that's that that's funny thing that Elon musk is okay about he's so cute, but a crazy idea. Yeah, exactly So now now they're gonna try and test it What I find really interesting is the investment of the the government in this project and I know that in the u.s The the public transportation is often regarded as Um, you know, it's not existed in certain parts of the country. It depends on where you are, of course In certain parts. I mean in on the east coast. There is certainly a lot more of it Yeah, I think we actually have quite a bit more than people realize here in la because they've been building it for a long time But but yeah, it is not as extensive as say in paris or london Right and um, and you know, when it's well done, it's Really good for your city and in this case, uh, we have a very strong network of trains and Subways, of course, if you're talking about the city itself But the the thing that I would uh reference here is our tgv our train a grand vitesse, which is Very fast trains basically and we have a very large network. I don't know exactly how much but it's uh, it's a very large network of those trains and it means that You can live anywhere. You can go from one city to another very easily etc etc all of those things that I'm sure you know I would be interested in knowing how How valuable A technology like uh hyperloop would be for The country and for the government to invest in in this case, um, the city of to lose which has a lot of history in the Aeronautics that is that the aerospace the aerospace industry is very very strong there, right? exactly um, and uh, and so they're they're looking into this because it's it's I don't know how much crossover there is from one to the other But it's actually being helped by the city and the the mayorship To to try and develop there so I what I would be as I said interested in in finding out is If it works out, what are the benefits that society, you know, the country could uh reap from a system like this Yeah, I I think that's the question that a lot of people are struggling To to answer and and both hyperloop one and hyperloop transport technologies have both given lots of answers Uh, but all of them no matter how you run the numbers All of them end up being this is a very expensive piece of transportation technology to develop and we need government help to do it They they've both taken different routes on funding Which is hyperloop one takes a lot of venture capital hyperloop transport technologies or htt Does a kind of crowdfunding collaboration approach? There's a lot of people from space x and nasa and bowing working on htt stuff either as an open source model or more often In exchange for stock options, but they're not getting a salary because they have a day job somewhere else So there's there's ways to get the funding up from the beginning But both companies no matter how they're getting up on their feet and getting their test tracks going Say if we're going to actually build these tracks, they are so expensive We are going to have to have government intervention And then the question comes well, is it worth it for a government to intervene a hyperloop one? Uh is most likely going to build its first route between dubai and abu dhabi Because those are governments who have control of large enough finances that they're willing to give that and become The first country to have that htt is working with slavakia and the check republic because those two Countries have decided that it is worth it for them to put themselves on the map and and bring tourism and industry in Because they have the hyperloop, but in both cases. I don't see a lot of people justifying this as it will in and of itself Be something that pays for itself or transforms the economy such that it will be worth all the expense I think you know what benefits do we get from hyperloop? It's the the speeds are about a thousand kilometers per hour, right? And yeah, yeah, exactly six hundred twenty miles per hour if you don't know kilometers and what we can do with uh our Very fast trains the chat room was wondering if it's the same as bullet trains. Basically. Yes. We we had a Very strong competition between the japanese and the french industries to for for a couple of decades there Each one was beating the other in speeds with those bullet trains in in france and in in japan I think now they're being used at about 300 kilometers per hour something like that So that would be about 200 miles per hour. I think that's roughly the the number but So what would we gain going uh triple Triple that can and how much it doesn't start at a thousand kilometers per hour, right? There's there's and same story for the bullet trains, I suppose But you have to work up to that Of course, but then you're talking about connecting cities Instead of just neighborhoods at a speed that could theoretically mean that you are in a city That's a couple of hundred kilometers away and you commute for example from one city to the other Yeah, no, it's it's that or cargo, right? The other a lot of people are saying it doesn't make sense for passengers It'll be too expensive for that but it would make sense for cargo because you can increase shipping times Other people like big jim and our audience have poked some holes in that saying, well, you know what the cost of it probably still Might not make it an affordable solution It depends because for cargo, you know now we have all of those networks of Services and companies that need to deliver a lot of things everyone shops online and uh, that infrastructure has been a A lot of work for amazon who they have Don wonders for this Would it make sense for a company like that to get involved in the same way they're involved in the much cheaper Trials with drone delivery and things like that, you know crazy ideas for deliveries Would they enable them to have? Centers fulfillment centers farther out from cities get the thing under the city and then you're all of a sudden, yeah, you know They're not very flexible, which is no different than trains though Like once you build a route you can't just move it because oh the fulfillment center needs to be over there now Well, yeah, you that's what that's why I mean Maybe, you know, the governments need to be involved, but maybe it could be Just like uh, some other things that have happened over the internet A very big company is thinking hey We could be benefits from this let's work on it as well, you know, I could we're just, you know Talking well and almost both these companies. Uh, htt and hyperloop one are bringing in companies to Have a stake in this uh with htt. It's more in that crowdfunding type of vein So they have vacuum maker labeled global engineering design firm acom infrastructure Company atkins a composite supplier folks like that hyperloop ones taking a more traditional venture capital investment route, but They they're all need other people to have a stake in this And it's actually surprising to me That a couple years on from elan musk having his crazy idea That both these companies are still operating, you know, hyperloop one went through a lawsuit with the former cto Hyper htt has come under a lot of criticism for not showing as much result For all of hyperloop ones legal issues They actually have done at least one test of a sled and they Say they're gonna have a a test that'll go 500 meters at 100 miles per hour by the end of march But they're both still kicking they're both still going. Yeah to be honest htt's uh Some of the the structure of htt leave me Going, you know Hmm Like the fact that they have a lot of engineers working part-time on the thing for equity while still having another job somewhere else Hey works great for linux Yeah, sure. I mean, why not again a few years ago. Had you told me? You know crowdfunding was going to be a real thing. I might have been skeptical And maybe it's gonna work out for htt, but still Still it's kind of oh So a lot of your engineers actually don't work like for the company There's somewhere else and when they have time like I could you know it could for me the image it conjure it it summons is People working on it when it's exciting and maybe at some point They're going to be less excited once it becomes a little bit more Uh tedious. Well, that's why you give stock options. So they're yes So they have a stake in making it uh finally be a success Uh, well, it's it's certainly something to watch and if anybody out there knows a little bit more about this By all means email us feedback at daily tech news show dot com Thanks to everybody who participates in our show that one way to participate is our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com We get responses on twitter like steven lewis aka re add on 79 Wrote random theory google is updating google voice We talked about this yesterday to integrate text or voice with google home So that you can use any phone or device you've just put google voice on whatever phone you have And then it works with google home Could be kind of makes sense Adam wrote in with a clarification. He said further to tom analysis discussion on monday. Thank you adam Android has changed their permissions on android marshmallow six and higher So that apps built for 6.0 plus and running on a phone with os 6.0 plus will ask for permissions as needed And not all at once on install. It works like ios in that way That's very good. I wonder how many apps will still be built for uh previous versions for a very long time because It doesn't have that. You know, we're we're laughing but Some apps may actually prefer Um not risking the user friction By having this happen or I guess if you have ios That's the question. I guess if you have 6.0 or later. Does it impose? that uh, If you want to put an update on your app, you're gonna have to play in this this new version, so Uh brian easton wrote as someone who has built a couple of different projects using a raspberry pi I think the most important part of a clone is compatibility. I asked folks to write in about the tinker He said both in terms of hardware and software you have to have compatibility on the hardware side It has to be able to take advantage of the existing ecosystem I should be able to buy an accessory from a shop like adafruit and use it with any pi clone If I need to use an adapter that's fine, but it needs to work The gpio pins should work the same way as the official pi software is basically the same thing I don't want to have to rebuild or recompile to make software work Optimately, it would be capable of running raspbian Uh, so he's like If you want to compete with raspberry pi you should play in the pi universe Jeff in noxville, tennessee said you solicited opinions about the newly announced single board computer from asus the tinker I'm a fairly casual maker But I own a swath of sbc's most coming from various kick starters While many of these boards outperform the raspberry pi in both specs and cost They generally lack the level of support provided by the makers of the raspberry pi itself Because many of these boards are the first produced by some newly created hardware company They often arrive months late and lacking the basic software to make them function properly asus isn't a new hardware startup though They have years of experience producing boards and the drivers necessary to make those boards work And what excites me about the new board is that I believe it has the potential to give raspberry pi some healthy competition From a well-established hardware brand that can keep up with demand and ship stable software With a comparable price and improved specs compared to the latest raspberry pi. I hope to get my hands on one Yeah, both excellent points Yeah, absolutely. Thank you guys for sharing that and finally kleb one of a million trying to figure out how to survive making art on the internet writes The difficulty in finding original sources of popular images is an very old problem Especially on platforms that offer and encourage easy resharing of media like tumblr Many artists that use it as their primary blogging system besides their own website find that their artwork is commonly repurposed And even outright stolen while it is a lot of work to track down the original artist It is almost always worthwhile I'd like to encourage all dts listeners as much as possible to track down The original source of popular images and things of that nature. It doesn't just improve the credibility at all It so gives proper attribution either rightly or wrongly to the original source I 100 percent agree But i'm not sure that you know, he's saying it is a lot of work To track down the original artist. It is always worthwhile My fear and worry is that for a lot of people it's not worthwhile. They won't think it. Yeah Well, uh and And I you know, I don't disagree with anything he's saying in here I think you're absolutely right that you should give Uh credit where credit is due the same point. This isn't infinitely copyable medium. So the way We deal with these sorts of things Is adapting Uh to to the realities of the situation. I just don't think we've we've cracked it yet. Yeah Well, thank you patrick masia as always a pleasure to talk tech with you and now you can talk tech with patrick on all kinds of Shows out there. What what else you got going on? 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Yeah All right Show by I think Hello computer is Topped for a title It's like hello world except hello computer. Yeah I mean we should give some others their due because people worked hard. There's one in there Um, what was it sure let me find it. Well, uh, I like one of there that doesn't make any sense But it made me laugh LG looking so fly like a g6. No, that's good too. The samsung snapping up the snapdragons Lost lower on it wake wake. Don't yell me And I see you uh, who submitted that I saw the chat room was even like it doesn't make any sense. It just made me laugh It does not but sometimes Sometimes sometimes you have to feel more than you think tom hyperloop more height than loop Oh, you know, well, you know, it's interesting. Uh I wonder I wonder if there was a there had to be huge industrial offsets To basin to lose right? I mean well, apparently to lose has a Uh a program to bring in startups for this location. Uh, it's one of those things where they're taking an old unused property and trying to rejuvenate it for a new purpose and hyperloop was one of the first companies to take advantage of that You know build the loop around the runway Yeah I guess you could It's just like a plane, you know, except in a tunnel It's a plane in a tunnel exactly It is a lot of because a lot of people have been saying things like I I don't know how this is going to work Aren't you going to get smashed against the walls or It's like no more than an airplane airplanes go very fast, but they they get you there slowly so that you don't get smashed But it's not in a wall tube It's not in a tube. Well, and that's the uh, well, yeah, no, it's not it's not it doesn't make any difference to getting smashed It's uh, there you go using reason again I need to think with my feelings. There's just be a lot of grinding Things go wrong Well, it's one of the where I was going with that is it's one of the problems with hyperloop is that yeah I can reach 1,000 kilometers, but it takes a while to get up to that speed. Yeah How long though Uh, there are very need to calculate the g's and the things I read one analysis that said it wouldn't even reach it wouldn't necessarily reach top speed Until partway through its route like it wouldn't only be at top speed for a few minutes In any segment because the the one they had proposed for la to san francisco Which I don't expect to ever see built would have had stops And so because you have to stop you can't get up You don't have enough time to get up to the cruising speed But then you would have an express an express one that would go with faster cruising speed for longer Two tubes. So and you have two ways. So you would need four tubes Unless you know if it's fast enough. No, but then ah Yeah, it's a lot of tubes. It's a lot of tubes. See that's the one advantage rail has is that you could I mean, I'm sure you could build one using tubes, but you can you can uh cross track You can put one train onto another track at a maybe they could do that too They could it probably end up looking like the pneumatic tubes Things of the tube All right, I'm gonna go guys Thank you very much. Took you soon. Bye chat room. Love you Wait, what were you going with it? Uh, hello computer. Hello computer. Yeah Hello computer mile Oh, yeah, the problem with irony I was watching that it was really good with david foster wallace Oh, wait a minute. I've been watching videos on the sorry on the dts thing I'll explain what those showed up That's fine, but it was really interesting. He he uh, it's he's a philosopher Um Who grew up I think in the late 80s early 90s basically my my cohort Uh, but he has like this whole thing about how corrosive Excessive irony like irony without like, you know just for irony's sake. That's the generation x mode of being Or what was the not deglas copeland the guy who made the parody book called generation ec Oh, I don't know the that one. It was really funny. It's just basically pointing out all the issues he has like Lemon says I have noticed a lot of your musical influences from the 90s, which is hilarious to me because I didn't really listen to music in the 90s You didn't listen to lit No I only know that coming around the train saw because justin was playing it during the election coverage I never actually listened to that song back in when it was well, I mean the biggest 90s bands would be like nirvana pearl jam rem Even though rem and pearl gem did get their start like in the 80s, but yeah No, the uh, the whole time I lived in austin. I would go see local bands most of the time That were called local we're in a local band. So stay please please stay Well, oh man, those were the days the headliners would go on at 1 a.m Anywhere you remember that I remember that I remembered I don't know if they still do this because I they're fewer and fewer bowling alleys Although what's cool is half a mile away is a roller rink Um, which I need to go to eventually with my kid, uh, but uh rock and bowl remember that Rock and bowl. It was a thing that a lot of bowling alleys did. So basically around midnight Uh, that you would have to pay one price and you could bowl free for like three hours And well, they would do that Didn't like the one of the bowling alleys down at pacifica still do that Oh, you mean the c c something c bowl. Yeah, c bowl. Maybe I remember before it got turned into amoeba record store There's a bowling alley in the hate next to next door to the mcdonalds Um, and that's why I have a bowling alley, uh, not too far from here called bolero Which is kind of that rock and roll idea it bolero Used to be just a regular amc bowling alley and then this company out of texas came in and bought it Well, actually, I think it's a brooklyn investor who started the chain of texas brooklyn Like well, it wasn't just limited to san francisco like a modesto the modesto bowl would do that too The music would be different, but basically it was same. It would be loud rock music Yeah, uh lord lights and free, you know, you would pay a flat rate to bowl for like three hours So you pay one fee Pretty fun, especially if you could play with a bunch of drunk guys and gals Uh I think if you looked at my actual playlist Of music you would not see as much 90s stuff I'm gonna guess I don't even need that p.m. Don me The 90s stuff you might find would be um Did I say p.m. Don me? No, someone did He says some time ago.  I remember like kitchens of distinction. I remember the mission uk.  I don't I mean that sounds familiar But I don't remember how any other songs went Um never heard of nirvana. I heard I did I added nirvana at WPGU when in uh 1992 Because a guy from toronto happened to be visiting he had worked at WPGU when he was in college And he he's like you got to check out this band out of seattle. They're amazing Seattle it's the new epicenter of music You got to check it out and then a bunch of movies got made they're like singles and they're just like what no That just that's kicked off the whole thing then sleep is in seattle and there was a couple other seattle movies Well, yeah, there was uh, you've got mail and sleep. Oh, I haven't seen that one That are well, you've seen sleepless in seattle, right? Yeah, so pretty much seen you've got. Oh, oh geez really? Yeah, it's almost exactly the same plot cake. Oh Oh, I love cake and I like cake There's some really bad. There was a bands. I really assily detested like mud honey Um, there's so many crappy bands.  It's because you're in college in the 90s, right? Or the 80s. No, I was in college 88 through 92 I was in college from 92 to 96 no from 92 to 98 because I goofed off a little bit. I should have been working Instead I was working. So there's a lot of 90s bands that what are you gonna do with your life 80s reference? um Like There's a lot of 80s to 80s 90s. Yeah, it's interesting I guess I do make my 90s reference that I would have asked about this from San Jose Actually a good 90s band that didn't Well, was it maybe 90s 2000s was um The donna's I don't really like because they were from Cupertino All right Hey, I think I know a few donna's songs they um Take it off. I think it's one of their bigger big ones Good charlotte. There's a band. I hate it. Oh Jesus. Oh really? Wow Yeah, I couldn't because they looked so bandwagony They looked like if you they looked like if you wanted to make a band and then you sent them through hot topic It just it was just very to me. It was very corporate formulaic band. That's why I didn't like him Oh, cool. Which which video Bio cow. I don't know what you're responding to bio cow said, uh, my wife Said his wife worked at one of donna's on one of the donna videos All right, recent activity. I played No, that's It's not really recent activity Let me see what's on my playlist music library I have a main playlist that I call playlist two Just distinguish it from playlist one See I used to like it's itunes used to give you so much information in the in the universe um, so I've got uh Patty page jimmy world cat stephen cerebrals jimmy world wow Daryl anger mama cast bob mold regina specter arlo guthrie warren zevon badfinger hank williams Yeah, at least half of those are my new teeny jsevret bellamy brothers. They might be giants So we do the do you listen to any of the sugar stuff or just bob mold stuff? Do you uh, I only have the bob mold on this playlist Okay, actually I forgot about sugar though. I did like sugar back sugar and husker do I think husker do I used to play them on the radio All right, I believe we have a working post I'm actually double check this Thank you all for watching or listening as a reminder Not that I I don't think anybody's really Minding the new setup, but it'll be the new setup again Tomorrow and then maybe so get set up actually it flatters your face. Oh, thank you very much Uh, didn't wear the jacket today either because I just forgot to put it on so that wasn't a style choice that just happened Thanks everybody. Talk to you tomorrow


Infrastructure development will raise the standards of the game in the country. This is the message by boxing stakeholders who have initiated a program that will see both the upcoming and established boxers getting an opportunity to train for free in one of the Nairobi Abtown facilities. Avif fitness manager Felix Akendo explains. Boxers are really beneficial because we are not charging them anything. They enjoy the equipment and the facility for free. As a boxer, your fitness level has to complement your skills. It's good for you to work out under proper guidance of a qualified boxing coach as well as good equipment and facilities so that your skills and your fitness level are at par. It gives you proper and good outcome. There has been an outcry over poor state of boxing facilities in Kenya with calls to relevant agencies to address the same being unfruitful. But according to coach Roy Kuavi, well-equipped facilities in place will enable the restoration of the lost glory of the sport. If you continue working hard, that is training these young guys into boxing. I would like to appreciate Ken Trak. He has given many, many boxers, those who are less privileged to come and train to a modern facility like this one. Here, everything that you can find in gym in London, it is here. So I don't see why we cannot improve if this kind of facility is put in every county, at least two. At least we will go somewhere. The government has on several locations pledged to fastrack the completion of renovation of existing and construction of new facilities such as social halls, arenas, gyms in order to give boxers an opportunity to train and fight in this rain environment. An initiative Akendo believes can enhance the growth of the Indo game. It's up to the relevant federations and also the government to take part and to play their part. That's why we are unable to compete with other countries who have proper facilities. Because for you to participate with other people who are preparing well, you have to be at power with them in terms of preparations. And that calls for proper facilities and equipment. So I think the government needs to pull up their socks. Sponsors need to come in and chip in in such initiatives so that we can help our youth who are actually talented in boxing. But since they have nowhere to prepare well, you find those talents being wasted. Kickboxing, which is a related discipline that people looking for high intensity exercise with a variation of movement and the one that required focus settle for has also seen enthusiasts visiting the gym for enhancement of their fitness levels. Coach Ajmit Barji revealed to us how it is significantly picking up in Kenya. Muay Thai, which is the Thai national sport, it's picking up a lot here in Nairobi. A lot more people are familiar with it and want to train for it. And they also familiar with the competitive side of it. So they watch a lot of international fights. So I think there is a lot of interest is building up here in Nairobi. There is a bit a lot more awareness now. People understand this sport. They understand that it is also quite different from the western style of kickboxing. Because you have kickboxing, the more western style and you have Muay Thai, which is the Thai style. So the rules are a bit different. The style is quite different in terms of what you can use. In terms of elbows, knees, it's quite different from western style of kickboxing. The Facility Propriet and Boxing Federation of Kenya Nairobi brand chair, Kenedotiano, also known as KENTRAC, has been passionate about the sport in the country with his focus being coming up with the strategies to advocate for the welfare of the Pujilist. So that is why I step in. I guess I'm at least in Kiyongozi for boxing. I don't want to be a driver. So I just want to be a driver. Okay, number one what I want to do in boxing, because I don't want to miss a lot of sana. I don't want to be a transparency for boxing. I am a kettle. As you know, as an example, the team is in Commonwealth. I don't want to be a boxer. But I want to be a boxer. I want to be recognized. Because I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. I want to be a champion. kwa ceikinu kufPRTANSHKUZ and the other healthy drinks that they need. V fitness remains committed to engaging youth constructively while giving them an outlet to make a living away from crime. My name is Mark Swalwasek.


Hey, I'm Jan Tastic. This is React Holiday Day 19. Today we're talking about asynchronous actions in use reducer. Man, that's a lot of words, but it's not a lot of code motion. So just just bear with me. We're going to get through this together. Super easy. Here's a way that you can do it. Now, the goal is, is that I'd like to move this, these implementation details up into my use reducer. As this grows, I don't want to be calling fetch everywhere and then like calling the actions as a result of that, I'd rather just dispatch an action and have it care about all of the implementation of how that data actually gets on state. So we're actually going to take this and we're just going to move it up. Move, move, move, move, move, move, move, move. Where's it going to land? Right here. Okay, now I'm going to copy the action that we had before and format this just a little bit so I can read it. We're going to call this one fetch and replace. Now this is a terrible name, but just just for the sake of this demonstration. And as a payload, it's going to take a URL. So here we'll take action dot payload. And then we're going to take our JSON and then dispatch another action replace Pokemon with the JSON that we get back. Cool, cool, cool. Now let's copy this and jump back down into our on click. We're going to change this to fetch and replace Pokemon and the payload will be our Pokemon URL. Let's save that and see how we did. Failure. The reason why is that we actually need to always return state. So I'm just going to return the previous state. So the state that we got, I'm just going to send that back out while we do the work of fetching the next Pokemon. Let's save that and see if it works now. Boom. We got it. So that's one way that you could do asynchronous actions in use reducer.


I'm going to give the presentation back to Cindy and just present her status back to Cindy. And it's my pleasure to introduce to you my friend, Cindy Farley. Cindy and I, this is the sixth presentation with Cindy and her students, her midwifery students from Georgetown University. So six years in a row and I've had the pleasure of working with them every time it's been fantastic. It's the students are Christie Cannon, Charlie Coffee, Lauren Radney, Raven Fulton, and Anna Dykstra. And I will leave Cindy to do the rest of the invitation or the rest of the introductions. But thank you for joining us. And thank you, Lorraine. Always great to be here with you. My Georgetown midwifery students are going to share how the COVID-19 global pandemic has influenced their professional and personal experiences while they were also engaged in the challenging work of learning to become excellent midwives. It is important for each of us to reflect on our individual and collective journeys through the pandemic from its beginning through its evolution and with the understanding that it is really not over yet. Birth equity is the theme of this year's conference. The COVID crisis has brought into sharp focus the inequities in healthcare access, resources, and outcomes within our country and across the globe. We must do better. Hi, I'm Cindy Farley, associate professor at Georgetown University in the Midwifery and Women's Health Nurse Practitioner Programs. I teach labor birth, postpartum, and newborn care, and I'm involved in other professional activities such as clinical care, writing, legal consultations, and advocacy work. Since COVID vaccines have become available, I have been volunteering at vaccination clinics in my community. It is all too easy to hear about something happening halfway across the world and feel empathy, but also a sense that it does not really affect me directly. And so it was for many of us early in the days of the pandemic as we watched Wuhan, China, identify and deal with this novel virus. One effect of the pandemic for me was the cancellation of the International Confederation of Midwives Conference. This was to be in Bali, Indonesia in 2020, and we watched as the virus made its way there. I was planning to attend this very powerful and inspiring gathering of midwives. It is now rescheduled as a virtual conference for every Wednesday this June, so I do encourage you all to consider attending. In early March 2020, some United States birth facilities began suspending students from their clinical placements. This was followed in mid-March 2020 by a Georgetown University policy to suspend all clinical students and was similar to policy enacted by many universities during this time. Because Georgetown is a hybrid distance program, we already did many things in the remote environment, but we had to quickly take our three-day on-campus simulation intensive courses to the online environment. We were able to create innovative role play and low fidelity simulation in a virtual learning environment to continue student engagement during clinical suspension. At stake in the US and around the world is the delay of a year's worth of newly graduated midwives. At a time of need for more healthcare workers, students were delayed in completing program competencies and in joining the workforce. In the US, this was estimated to be about 1200 students based on new midwife student enrollments in the year 2018. These students were projected to graduate in 2020 and some are just now completing their studies. As faculty, it is important to hear and honor our students' experiences and understand how we all can best support each other through this time. We believe that students being born into midwifery during this time will have developed a unique skill set of resiliency and flexibility under rapidly changing circumstances. This will serve them well as they complete their programs of study and join the midwifery workforce to provide excellent midwifery care to those who need our services. To our live audience, we are curious as to your experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic. So if you're willing to share, then please type into the chat box anything that you would like us to know. And perhaps we'll have time at the end to discuss. I do want to proudly note the previous Georgetown Student Cafes we have done. And these are archived at the VidM website if you are interested in that. I will now hand over our talk to our midwife student panelists and they will share their stories. First up is Christie Cannon and Happy International Day of the Midwife. Hello, my name is Christie Cannon and I live in Thousand Oaks, California with my husband Quinn and our five beautiful children, Elizabeth and Mary, 15 year old twins, Camilla who is 12, Thomas who is 10 and James who is four. I have worked as a registered nurse in neonatal intensive care for 22 years and have loved this chosen path. I'm grateful for all the lessons I have learned over the years working with families in maternal child health. My NICU career helped prepare me for my own twins who were born prematurely and are unique in that one has Down syndrome and many health issues related to that diagnosis such as severe sleep apnea, celiac disease, Hashimoto's thyroiditis and a congenital heart defect that was repaired with open heart surgery. Although our journey with Mary has been challenging, she has been our greatest teacher and is truly the heart of our family. She brings us joy every day. We are thankful she has introduced us to the wonderful Down syndrome community and changed our lives for the better. I have been able to care for many babies with Down syndrome in the NICU and be a resource for those families which has been a highlight of my nursing career and one I hope continues on my journey as a midwife. In January of 2020, we received the unexpected news that my 38 year old sister-in-law, Candace, a vibrant, beautiful mother of four had undergone complications during a routine cardiac procedure that left her with a few days to survive on ECMO in the ICU. We immediately flew to Utah to say goodbye to her. The following week, our family drove out to attend her funeral. We were devastated and struggled to manage the grief of losing a loved one. I had just started my fifth term at Georgetown University which proved to be the most difficult and quickly got behind in my studies. I struggled to keep up with my schoolwork and had difficulty focusing those first few weeks following her death. When the world shut down in March, I was already fragile with the grief process and things quickly began to unravel. All five of my children were suddenly home trying to learn remotely and I was left managing the task. Soon I lost my village and was left with all the responsibilities of caring for the children, cooking the meals, meeting the special needs of my daughter with Down syndrome and wearing the hat of teacher to all my children. Mary's private nurse and our nanny both left so we were on our own to figure out this new way of life. As a result, I fell further behind in my studies which was very stressful. I worked closely with my professors at Georgetown for extensions and tried to study while the kids were sleeping. It took a toll on my health and I got sick for the month of April. I had two negative COVID tests despite having all the typical symptoms of the virus. Things were not looking good. My husband was working remotely from home and trying his best to help with the children and family responsibilities. I ended up taking a leave of absence at work and pushed through the term. It was one of the most difficult periods of my life and I felt overwhelmed with responsibility. I had to stop my clinical at the natural birth center in March and was not able to resume for nearly 11 months due to the inability to find a preceptor. During this time, I tried to stay positive, focus on my studies and take advantage of all the simulation activities available to maximize my learning as a student midwife. Georgetown was great about adding virtual opportunities including mock on-call experiences, simulation clinical scenarios and many other options to learn virtually in a COVID friendly way. In February of this year, I was finally able to resume clinical and begin my long-awaited intrapartum experience in a hospital setting. I have now experienced 16 beautiful births which I will never forget. Unfortunately, my contract recently ended and I'm back to waiting for another clinical site. Due to the difficulty of securing a preceptor in my area, my husband and I decided that we would cast the net far and wide, reframing this next phase of my clinical as a family experience. We are hoping to relocate with our children over the summer to complete my clinical requirements anywhere in the United States. We are excited about potential options and look forward to this adventure. I feel fortunate that I was among the first few to receive the vaccine in California last December. A feeling of gratitude and relief washed over me as I walked into that room and I couldn't hold back the tears. I thought finally we have something to fight back after so much loss and devastation. I felt deeply humble and grateful to the scientists who made this possible. I sensed a beginning to the end. As the pandemic evolved, it was difficult to watch my children struggle with isolation. They stopped dancing, playing sports and spending time with their friends. They grew quiet. We had to find other ways to bring joy and combat the depression that settled in unexpected ways. New challenges arose, so we reached out for help. We found new ways to connect with others during quarantine and relied on each other for support. We called grandparents more often and started regular extended family Zoom meetings. We took it one day at a time remembering this wouldn't last forever. Although this past year has been difficult for all of us, there were silver linings. We slowed our life down and spent more time together. We had family dinner around the table every night. We learned how to make our own bread with our own sourdough starter. We found ways to serve others. We were grateful for our good health and although life had changed dramatically, we were living and breathing and getting through the pandemic. Although my journey to become a midwife has taken some unexpected paths and graduation has been delayed due to COVID, I have hope that one day I will reach my goal of working as a certified nurse midwife. I will bring more babies into the world and consider that a great honor. I felt called to this profession in a profound way and know I'm supposed to be here with all of you. Thank you and happy international day of the midwife. Thank you Pablo, Hey everyone, my name is Charlie Coffey. I currently live in coming Georgia where I've been a labor and delivery nurse at Northside for about four years now. I'm anticipated to graduate this summer which was a little bit too late due to COVID but and I will be a women's health nurse practitioner and a certified nurse midwife. And I know all of us prepared ourselves for graduate school but definitely never anticipated going through graduate school during a pandemic. I continue to work full time as a labor and delivery nurse through school and when the pandemic hit we had the constant changes here of protocols of what we had to wear, who was allowed on the unit which then of course, you know, assess nurses how to deal with but also struggled with the patients and explaining everything new to them which was changing daily. And at this time I was in a clinic doing my rotation and I remember one night after getting home from the clinic and this was when COVID was kind of starting to really build up and especially Georgia had been a hotspot for it. I got a text from my preceptor at the time saying that they were no longer allowing students and so I messaged the school and I was concerned and it wasn't long after that that Georgetown had stopped clinicals as well. And I think I can speak for all of us when I say how nervous I was. I'm very much a type A and a planner so it was very hard to deal with such a large unknown and knowing that there was really no one who had the answers to what was going to happen next but we continued through didactic and I saw light at the end of the tunnel when the clinicals started opening back up for the fall semester and I do have to brag on the placement team at Georgetown because like I said Georgia was such a hotspot for COVID and they were pretty strict on who was allowed to be where and do what and a couple of weeks before the fall semester I got word that I could return to clinical and the first day I had an amazing day with my preceptor learned a lot and it felt really good to get some hands-on skills back. The next day I had a class and I remember in the middle of class my preceptor texted me that she had just tested positive for COVID and of course at that point I started over analyzing everything I was feeling and any symptoms that I might have and by the next day when I was supposed to get tested I knew that morning when I woke up that I had it. So we both struggled for two weeks it hit us both fairly hard and of course we sat out for clinical which then just led to further frustrations of being set back even more but it certainly gave us a greater respect not only for COVID but also for our patients who had gone through this as well and gone through it while they were pregnant. We got back on track which of course came with again daily changes in protocol restrictions and rising numbers here but I really think it gave me an even greater respect for this career that we had chosen which honestly I didn't think was possible at the time but I've watched coworkers and classmates and preceptors and professors just navigate through something that nobody was prepared for as professionals but also deal with it on a personal level too and Christy I have to say thank you so much for sharing your story because it's absolutely beautiful but I just wanted to thank you all for having me and happy International Day of the Midlife. Hi my name is Anna Dykstra and I have a bit of a cold so I'm sorry my voice sounds a little funny today. I live in Spearfish, South Dakota in the US. South Dakota is on the Great Plains in the middle of the country and it's very rural here.  When I first heard about COVID I didn't really know what to expect. I have a nursing background in public health and I thought that our public health system in the US would do a good job of protecting us. Unfortunately, things kind of exploded and got out of hand as you guys all know but I really didn't expect to still be dealing with COVID over a year later. When things started to get bad in the United States I first wondered if I should stop graduate school and go back to being a nurse in order to be more helpful during this pandemic and I think other students may have felt similarly but our faculty assured us that we were doing the right thing by educating ourselves and we were all encouraged to continue on in our programs. When COVID became widespread in the United States I was in my third out of seven terms of midwifery school. I remember that it felt like everything got turned upside down in a matter of one week. In Georgetown, in our Georgetown program we're required to travel to campus three times for intensive hands-on trainings and my first one of these was scheduled to happen in April of 2020. So of course this was canceled and moved online and then so that happened and then right after that happened I started hearing on the news about medical schools throughout the country removing their students from their clinical sites due to COVID and I wondered if Georgetown might do the same thing. I was supposed to start my clinical rotations in May of 2020 and shortly after I heard about these other schools doing that I heard that Georgetown students like Charlie mentioned were being sent home from their clinical sites as well. So no one knew at that point when we would be able to start our rotations. Summer term for myself was suspended for all students at that point it was suspended and so I didn't know when I'd be able to start a rotation and therefore I didn't know when I'd be able to graduate and this gave me a lot of anxiety. Now there were of course personal things going on for me at the same time as all of this. I have an eight year old son and a five year old daughter who then of course were seven and four last year when all of this was happening. My son was in first grade and his school closed for COVID precautions in March and so the last two and a half months of his year were expected to be completed online and as activities with a caregiver.  My husband works full-time outside the home as he's a self-employed carpenter and a ceramics artist so his work did continue but because it was outside of the home the responsibility of educating my son fell solely on me since I was home already for grad school. I'm not currently working as a nurse while I'm in grad school but then was educating my son. So there were a few hours per day of activities for him and my daughter's preschool daycare also closed for COVID at that time. So I was then homeschooling my son while also trying to keep my active four year old busy and trying to fit in my own studies. I was unfortunately not able to fulfill all of the activities my son's school was asking me to complete even though I was doing the best I could and at the end of the school year my son's teacher contacted me and said they'd have to report that my son did not receive adequate education the last two months of his year because I was unable to complete all of the activities with him and his teacher was very understanding didn't fault me for this at all but I cried on the phone with her because education for my children is very important to me. So that was difficult. Georgetown then did start to allow students to return to and begin clinical rotations again in September of 2020. Unfortunately, as mentioned earlier it's been difficult to find sites that were taking students but I did end up securing placement at a site in Denver, Colorado through a personal connection. Denver is six hours from my home so I had to be away from my family for two, two week rotations one in September and one in October. And Denver is not a city I'm very familiar with so that was a challenge of course because I was unable to start my rotations in the summer term I missed 200 hours of clinical ambulatory hours during that term and I really wanted to work hard to try to complete all of those hours in subsequent semesters with the hope of graduating on time. So when I was in Denver I was attending clinical four days a week and class one day a week to log as many hours as possible. This was my fifth term which Christy mentioned is a very challenging term. I would agree it was probably my most challenging term to date. So I was working very hard having a lot of stress and then finally when I was in Denver in October my second rotation I learned that my 71 year old parents who both live near me in South Dakota both had COVID. At this point I felt very powerless scared and drained and I felt like every bad thing that I had feared could happen with COVID was happening. Now my elderly parents had COVID. Thankfully both of my parents did have mild courses and they recovered fine at home but of course there was no way for me to know that when they first became ill. In November of 2020 I was then able to secure a local placement for my clinical so I came back home and I entered my intrapartum birth rotations in January of 2021 while still working on completing last hours from summer term. So consequently since September I've taken very, very little time off from studying or clinicals which has been very difficult for me and my family with my little kids. My husband does support us with his work and taking good care of the children while I have to be away but I don't get to spend a lot of time with any of them unfortunately right now or during that time. At my local clinical site we do see a variety of high and low risk patients and we catch babies at that local hospital. This is in a town of about 75,000 people. Our hospital initially restricted support people to one per patient because of COVID and so patients were not able to have doulas or anyone other than just one partner or mother's mother, et cetera. This changed recently though and patients can now have two support people so we do see doulas again along with partners and mothers of patients attending some of the births. The hospital also previously required a COVID test for patients who were being induced or having planned C-section but this requirement has recently been eliminated as well. I got fully vaccinated for COVID in February and I've been feeling like now I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I've also been able to finally make up all of the missed hours from summer term so I'm on track to graduate as initially planned in August and I'm so excited to finally become a midwife. So for everybody out there, happy international day of the midwife. Hello everyone, my name is Raven Fulton. I'm also a student nurse midwife and soon to be graduate of Georgetown University. I live in Atlanta, Georgia in the United States. At the beginning of the COVID pandemic I was already on leave from my midwifery program due to an issue with clinical placement. I had completed two semesters of clinical in the office setting and was scheduled to start my interpartum rotation in the spring of 2020. But the affiliate agreement between Georgetown and the hospital I had been assigned to was not finalized. So I took a leave from the program in hopes that the agreement would be finalized by the summer. However, when the shutdowns in the United States began in March and I saw all of my classmates being pulled from their clinical sites that they had secured with no estimate of when return would be safe or allowed. In addition to the fact that my hospital site would not give me or the clinical placement team a timeline for completion of the affiliate agreement, I was afraid that I would not be able to finish the program anytime soon. I had been a staff nurse in the emergency room for six years prior to starting graduate school and I maintained a PRN position in the emergency room after starting the program. So with the uncertainty of when I could return to clinical and the dramatically increased patient census and need for nurses at my job, I returned to work pulling full-time hours to assist my community in the fight against COVID as much as possible. Being on the very frontline of the fight in the emergency room was physically, mentally, and emotionally challenging and I was terrified of catching COVID and bringing it home to my family. But they understood my sacrifice and we were all very meticulous with our hygiene practices and thankfully have not been affected. My husband was already working from home for several years prior to the pandemic and my daughter was in eighth grade and able to navigate a computer and Zoom class sessions by herself. So even though we were all devastated by the loss of events and experiences, very important to us. Like me attending the annual meeting of the American College of Nurse-Midwives in person where I was scheduled to be a student volunteer and my daughter's softball season being canceled, otherwise the actual transition to quarantine living was somewhat smooth for our household. By the time the summer semester started in May, Georgetown had given us the option to continue the program with didactic only learning or take a leave while returning to clinical was negotiated and I strongly desired to get back into the learning environment because one leave felt like an eternity away from the content that I was desperate to get back to. The didactic portion of Georgetown's Midwifery program had always been in an online format and therefore it was easy to resume. However, the previously scheduled on-campus intensives where we would practice and be evaluated on clinical skills by faculty prior to our actual rotations was moved to the virtual environment and I was heartbroken because some of the skills that we were to practice I was completely unfamiliar with. I had been an ER nurse since graduating for my bachelor's program and I had no labor and delivery experience. So I was looking forward to practicing my hand maneuvers for birth, placing internal monitors, estimating blood loss and suturing in the simulation environment with faculty there in-person for guidance and correction as needed. And I initially did not see how that could be accomplished virtually. Our faculty made their best effort to translate the in-person experience to a virtual one. And although we were unable to meet face to face I still received great benefit from being able to talk through scenarios and procedures. I was finally able to return to clinical in October, 2020. By that time I had completed the intrapartum didactic course and started my final semester in integration. I was initially assigned to a hospital on the eight miles from my home. However, although the midwife there agreed to precept me, the hospital system had a moratorium on student placements, which is actually still in effect today. So I was fortunate to find placement with another site that initially only agreed to host me for my intrapartum rotation, but thankfully kept me on to finish out integration. I was required to provide my own PPE for both the clinic and hospital settings for the entirety of both rotations, even for known COVID positive patients. But that was a compromise I was willing to make to finish out my clinical rotations. My preceptor has been a midwife for 18 years. And I was so nervous to work with her because I literally had not been on a labor and delivery floor since my women's health rotation in my bachelor's program. But it turned out to be the best apprenticeship I could have hoped for. And I learned so much working alongside of her. I attended 50 births in the hospital setting, including twins and a VBAC. So there was ample opportunity for experiential learning. And my preceptor did her best to seek out every one of those opportunities. She was more than invested in my success and I am eternally grateful for fate bringing us together. I recently completed my integration rotation, so I will finally be graduating this month. My initial graduation date at the start of the program was August 2020 and now it is May 2021. Overall, there was several blessings and lessons I learned from being a graduate midwifery student and ER nurse through a pandemic. One of the most important lessons I learned was the significant value of self-care in preparation for being the best version of oneself to care for others. Also, the importance of quality time with family and loved ones cannot be overstated. And finally, pushing through the many challenges to finish graduate school in a pandemic has renewed and strengthened my confidence and commitment to the profession of midwifery. Although my program was extended from 27 months to 35 months total, overcoming all the challenges has been the most rewarding journey and I feel even more passionate about midwifery and women's health than when I first started the program. I am more sure than ever that helping women through some of the most vulnerable times in their lives is my calling and I am honored to share this space with you all. Thank you and happy International Day of the Midwife. Hello everyone, thank you so much for joining us today as we're sharing our student experiences in the midst of COVID. My name is Lauren Raddy. I live in the United States in Columbus, Georgia and I am also a women's health nurse practitioner and nursing life student at Georgetown University. Yesterday I just started my final didactic semester here so I am definitely looking forward to graduation, certification and becoming a co-labor, if you will, with this amazing community of midwives. In light of the devastating effects of COVID on businesses, on families, communities and of course the healthcare field, I consider myself to be very fortunate. However, I can say with the utmost confidence that being a grad school student in the midst of a pandemic was never on my bucket list. And like many of you, I did not see this coming. And when I first heard about COVID, I remember it had not reached the United States yet. It was just something that was briefly mentioned on news stations and the newscasters seemed to be pretty nonchalant about it and so I kind of adopted their sentiment. I didn't think COVID would spread to the US and if it did, I didn't think it would be that much of a problem. And I quickly found out that I was very, very wrong about that. I remember when the first case came to the US and then the first case came to Georgia, my nonchalant attitude and I received a very abrupt and unwelcome to wake up call. As Charlie said, Georgia has been quite the hotspot for COVID and so cases started to spread like wildfire and our hospitals were overflowing and grocery stores were running dry and statewide lockdowns were being issued. And I just felt this deep sense of fear come over me and it may sound a little bit extreme but with such little information that we had when the virus first started, I started to wonder if this would be the end of life as I knew it and it was very unnerving. When COVID first hit our country and my state, I was in the middle of another very rigorous semester at Georgetown and thankfully, as the others have mentioned, our program is primarily online so I didn't really have to do any adjustments on that front. However, our on-campus intensives were moved to the online platform as previously mentioned and those times where we are to practice and gain hands-on experience prior to clinical rotations, we didn't get that face-to-face interaction and that personal hands-on experience. And for me, that just really affected my confidence level going into clinical and COVID also has put me pretty far behind in clinical rotations. I've missed three so far and I'm actually doubling up right now to prevent my graduation date from being delayed any more than it already has been. I was anticipating graduating in August of this year but at the absolute earliest, I will be graduating in December, if not later. As far as personal losses go, I have lost several family members and several family friends since March of 2020. Some of them were due to COVID and some of them were just because of other complications but because of the restrictions and because it's just the sheer fear of contracting COVID, it felt like we weren't able to appropriately celebrate their life or grieve our losses for fear that we might contract the virus in the process if we did congregate and gather together. However, one of the absolute scariest moments for me in this past year was when my dad started having what he thought was just really bad reflux, it actually turned out to be a massive heart attack and we almost lost him. The doctor said that the vessels on the left side of his heart were 99% blocked. The right side was 70 to 80% blocked and unfortunately how everything happened, he wasn't able to be taken to the ER via ambulance so we actually drove him there and had to drop him off at the front door and for me it was absolutely devastating, not knowing what was going on with him, I didn't know what would happen and I knew that I couldn't go inside and be his advocate and I honestly didn't know if he was gonna walk back out those doors alive and so that was very, very devastating for me. On a more minor scale, I feel like I've lost a lot of friendships during COVID. As most of you know, grad school can be very isolating in and of itself. A lot of people don't understand the complexity of grad school and how much time it takes to become a midwife but then also in the midst of a global crisis and a lockdown and social distancing, the outlets that I once had to kind of de-stress and cope with the stress of grad school, those things were taken away but I did wanna end on a positive note because COVID did bring about some much needed blessings for me. I am very, very close to my family, especially my mom and so even though lockdown was difficult and 2020 was very difficult, it gave me about a year's time to bond with my family in a way that I don't think I would have been able to in the pre-COVID world. I recently moved this past weekend, couple hours away to do clinical rotations and so that time to bond before I left was very, very special. I also feel like without all of the external distractions it gave me a little bit more time to focus on school and my dream of becoming a midwife one day. So thank you again for being here and for listening to my story and I just wanna wish you all a happy international day, the midwife. Thank you so much to our student panelists for sharing their stories. They are powerful and poignant. I would like to ask now for a minute of silence from everyone in remembrance for all those across the globe who have died or who are suffering from COVID and in tribute to the bravery of midwives everywhere who have continued to care for women and birthing people during the pandemic. Please take a deep breath now and send your healing thoughts out to the world as we begin our minute of silence. Thank you all for that moment of silence. Also for your kind attention during our presentation, many thanks to Lorraine Mockford, always a fabulous facilitator and to our student panelists and I'm going to remind our students to be sure and note your presentation on your CV or resume. Very good professional activity to contribute to. We're now open for any comments or questions. Yes, I think we have a few minutes to take some comments or questions. And thank you, Cindy and students, that was fantastic. I see Juliette is typing something, Claudia. I would like to raise the question due to the conference theme for you to consider, you don't have to answer now, but think about how has the pandemic influenced your understanding of birth inequities and your role in making positive change? A big question and something we can all reflect on. Juliette says it was interesting to hear about deciding to prioritize midwifery training over working as a nurse at this time. Sometimes it's important to take the long view even in a pandemic. Yes, very much agreed. Thank you, Juliette. We learned from the Ebola epidemic in West Africa that losing a whole graduating class of healthcare providers is really devastating to the workforce and the ability then to care for people. Well, Lorraine, it looks like that's it. So thank you again, students and happy International Day of the Midwife to everyone.