l has not been ideal, and the local council, the Conservative red council, are improving that. I hope that that will lead to easier applications in the next few weeks. I want to turn to a couple of themes that members have mentioned, because I see that I am running out of time because of my interventions. First of all, those are serious social economic issues that we are speaking about today. I thought that Alasdair Allan made a very powerful point raising that, because many people portray this as an urban issue that is affecting Edinburgh or perhaps other countries such as Paris and New York and so on and so forth, but it is not. It is very much a rural issue, and particularly in Scotland as well. As a minister, often I go around rural communities, as I did again this summer. I speak to young people sometimes or anyone who says that they cannot get a house in this community because they are either second homes or holiday lets. The dilemma that we face as a Government's parliamentarians is that we need holiday lets, and it is not illegal to have a second home. Indeed, in some countries it is the culture to have second homes. I have taken the intervention so far. This is very much a social economic issue, and we should not shy away from it, and we should recognise it as a need for regulation. Jamie Greene said, why did the Scottish Government, if it is such a big issue, not deal with it 16 years ago? When this Government was elected, Airbnb did not exist. Airbnb did not exist. The world is changing. People are using technology and buying properties, understandably. There seems to be a commercial opportunity. They are putting it on to the web. They are using Airbnb and other platforms, because now they can do that. Of course, tourism around the world wants to come to an amazing country and take advantage of that, so it is a booming sector. That has social economic implications, as Alasdair Allan and other members have said. We have to deal with that, and that is what this is about. There will be an early review in early 2024 following the implementation. Remember, we are urging people to apply for the licence before the end of the month, and then the local authorities, as I said before, will have that year to work with the businesses. Let us make sure that the outcome of that is a thriving, self-catering sector and short-term let sector in Scotland, covering all the various forms mentioned in this debate. Let us ensure that we have a thriving tourism sector. We are not the only country dealing with this. We are not the only Parliament in the world dealing with this. New York, Paris, Barcelona, the Welsh are now looking at it as we have heard. The English are looking at it as we have heard. Portugal, France and Spain are all looking at it both in urban and rural areas, because the world is changing and it is having social economic impacts where people sometimes cannot afford to live and work in the communities where they are raised. Our local businesses, including tourism, cannot get key workers because they cannot vent anywhere else to live as well. Of course, because tourism is booming, everyone deserves that accommodation is safe, secure and compliant. Let us work together to make that happen and encourage as many people as possible to apply for the licence before 1 October. Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. Last week, I, along with MSPs from I think all the opposition parties, met with protesters outside Parliament. It is something that we do on most weeks and welcome constituents to Parliament, but this was something very different because the people I met outside Parliament had never protested in their lives before. These were hard-working, lower-biding Scottish citizens who are running bed and breakfast, guest houses across Scotland, individuals who are renting out a room to tourists or workers and have done so for years. I welcome many of them to the gallery today as well, but they felt compounded to come to Parliament to try to speak to ministers and their MSPs from SNP and Green parties to try to get them to listen. That is what we are trying to do today as well, to listen to the very real concerns on how short-term policy has been implemented by councils across Scotland and the negative impact that this will have on the lives and businesses of so many of our fellow citizens. Last Wednesday, they were ignored by SNP and Green ministers. The honourable exception being Fergus Ewing. I want to pay tribute to Fergus Ewing for his principled stance on this and his campaigning. I am sure that ministers have also faced that, but I wish that they would listen. During the passage of the short-term lets legislation at local government and housing and planning committee, ministers were warned about the unintended consequences of the wide-ranging reach of the policy, especially around this hard date for registration of 1 October. We offered to work with the cabinet secretary, Shona Robison, at the time, to try to find a cross-party consensus and workable approach to legislation, regulations and the guidance, which has now been issued on several occasions to councils across the country. Behind the scenes, I think that the new housing minister was also doing the same. He understood at the time the problems that were quite clearly coming on the horizon. I welcomed the six-month extension to the policy and hoped that ministers would use this summer to understand those problems and issues and bring forward workable suggestions to Parliament before 1 October deadline, especially following the ruling that the City of Edinburgh Council's licensing policy was found to be unlawful under judicial review. Linking planning systems and licensing systems, as Daniel Johnson has mentioned, was always going to be problematic, but ministers do not seem to understand the consequences of that. Ministers were warned that, without significant advertising campaigns, that the busy summer period—individual households and businesses face in Scotland and across any summer tourism period—would not give them the time to complete applications, undertake work, get tradespeople and then provide the necessary documentation. Sue Weber and Christine Grahame made some really important points on this from constituents who are just saying that to each and every one of us. For example, ministers could, if they wanted to, and could today take forward and agree on a new phased introduction beyond 1 October. I hope that something ministers genuinely beyond vote tonight will take away and consider. Giving businesses bed and breakfast and guest houses and those who do home sharing a phased introduction beyond 1 October is important. The Edinburgh festivals, which have not been mentioned by a tourist minister, are the world's largest art festival. It has rightly helped to make Edinburgh the world capital of culture. I welcome that, and I think that every MSP who represents the capital has mentioned that. Those unrivaled cultural programmes deliver a major economic uplift to businesses, jobs and livelihoods across the capital and further a field in our country. Cities around the world, which are growing their art festivals, would give their right arm to become as successful as Edinburgh festivals have been. Indeed, many will be looking at the potential impact on next year's festival and seeing how they can benefit and try to become the world's largest art festival. It is clear that ministers understood the negative impact of the short-term lets legislation on this year's festival when they brought forward the delayed date of 1 October to help the festival get through this year, knowing the consequences. I think that there are a few key ones. The festival, just to tackle that first, I engaged with the festival as we both did prior to becoming a minister and obviously discussed that with them as did the Cabinet Secretary, and I think that that was one of the reasons for the six-month extension. In terms of engagement, I've met with people in terms of both for and against the scheme that we've talked about. What we're talking about here is safety stands. We're talking about average costs of £250 to £250, and we're talking about safety stands. That's what's not being mentioned in the debate about there. In terms of national local campaigns, there's been two local campaigns around by the Scottish Government. If you go into any website now, if there's any local authority, they are pushing and promoting this scheme. I hope that, as has been mentioned before by Mr Lockhead, we encourage everybody to sign up for us before 1 October. Local authorities have 12 months thereafter to determine their application. None have been refused so far. Miles Greggs. I'm not sure the minister is really understanding, though, where this policy sits, because 80 per cent of people have not applied in Edinburgh. If he thinks that this is indicative of a great scheme that is fit for purpose in delivering, he is wrong. These people have decided not to apply for a reason. We're seeing the impact on bed nights being withdrawn already, and the cost of the Edinburgh festival this year is at its highest level ever. In addition, the number of properties listed here in the capital has also dropped to a record low from 8307 to 7993. It is concerning, as I've said, that the Edinburgh City Council is saying that they expect an 80 per cent reduction in short term lets in the city. Local authorities' registers are indicating that across Scotland as well. In Edinburgh, the figure was standing at 97 per cent. That is an unsustainable position, and that this policy is failing not only at housing policy but at the tourism potential that we all want to see grow and improve. However, the fact is that SNP MSPs and MPs do not seem to understand who is being captured in this. As I said earlier, Tommy Shepherd says that this is not about home sharing, but it most definitely is, and they are captured. It is the most basic of economic principles of supply and demand, and fewer rooms available will produce higher costs for anyone wanting to come and spend time in Scotland. As every Speaker has said during the debate, no-one is against regulation, and health and safety should be. I believe that in the vast majority of cases paramount to anyone operating in this sector, they want people to have a safe stay either in their home or in their property that they are letting out. As Murdo Fraser stated, a well-regulated short term lets sector is a social good. It is important not just to tourists but to many other sectors in our society, including commercial travellers, who are going to the Western Isles to work and also here in the capital as well. Today's debate presents Parliament with an opportunity to pause the introduction of the legislation and urgently reassess its impacts not only on the tourism sector but the wider economy and people's lives during the cost of living crisis. This debate is not about inflicting a defeat on the Government, it is about Parliament delivering workable legislation and good governance. Ministers and the two Ministers who have spoken in this debate, I think that acknowledging when they have got something wrong isn't weak, it's strong, and I hope both of them will take away from this debate the need to do something, not just move forward without taking on board the real concerns. The short terms legislation is not going to help solve the housing crisis in Scotland. What this legislation is going to do is drive a crisis in the Scottish tourism sector and that is something that they will be responsible for doing as a Government. SNP ministers should therefore take this opportunity that we have brought today to Parliament to pause the regulations now and take forward meaningful engagement to arrive at a proportionate, fair, legally sound legislative framework that works for everyone in Scotland. I support the motion in murder phrases name. Thank you. That concludes the debate on pausing the short term lets licensing scheme. I understand that you were in the chair, but during the last debate, there was a suggestion by Minister Richard Lochhead that another member should have been in the chamber to participate. I seek your guidance on this because I think that without knowledge of why another member may choose to participate remotely in a hybrid Parliament that all parties signed up to is potentially disrespectful and I'm concerned that such language might become part of our debate. I don't consider calling out other members for how they choose to participate in the Parliament to be a debating point and I'll be interested in your views on the matter. Thank you, Mr Mundell. I'll respond to Mr Mundell's point of order if I may. Just really for clarity to all members, the position is that the rules allow members to participate in the chamber or remotely. Those are the rules of the Parliament. Thank you. Richard Lochhead. For the record, I wasn't referring to the individual or the individual circumstances, only to the front-bench speeches, not to the individuals of circumstances. I would just say again to the minister that Parliament's rules are such that members may participate in the chamber or remotely. We'll move on to the next item of business, which is consideration of business motion 10420, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the parliamentary bureau setting out a business programme. I call on George Adam to move the motion. Thank you, Presiding Officer, and moved. Thank you, minister. No member has asked to speak on the motion. Therefore, the question is that motion 10420 be agreed. Are we all agreed? The motion is therefore agreed. The next item of business is consideration of business motion 10421, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the parliamentary bureau, on timetabling off a bill at stage 1. Any member who wishes to speak against the motion should press their request to speak button now, and I call on George Adam to move the motion. I'm once again moved, Presiding Officer. Thank you, minister. No member has asked to speak against the motion. Therefore, the question is that motion 10421 be agreed. Are we all agreed? The motion is therefore agreed. There are three questions to be put as a result of today's business. I remind members that, if the amendment in the name of Paul MacLennan is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Mark Griffin will fall. The first question is that amendment 10411.3, in the name of Paul MacLennan, which seeks to amend motion 10411, in the name of Murdo Fraser, on pausing the short-term let's licensing scheme, be agreed. Are we all agreed? The Parliament is not agreed. Therefore, it will move to vote, and there will be a short suspension until our members to access digital voting.


White and we'll take a look at their starting lineup now. Lamar Williamson is between the sticks. They do have a back for Javain Dyke, Kimola Ferran, Leon Green and Gregory Donaldson in the middle of the park. Harrison McLean and Blackwood and up top are Thomas Johnson and McKellen. Tajid Thomas with eight goals and five assists so far to his name. As far as McGraw High is concerned they'll also have a four three three formation. Joel Davis is their custodian. David Hutchinson, Jamari Fowler, Demoy Adir and Isaac Mason the back four in the middle of the park. They have Morris Taff and Tucker and up top Romain Campbell. Shane Pusey who has six goals and three assists to his name and Devon Davis who has three goals and three assists as well. That's the end of the game and one year later the tables have turned and McGraw who went out at the hands of Edwin Allen last season at this same stage return the favor and Edwin Allen they now taste defeat and McGraw they are the ones through to the round of 16 of the Dacosta Cup and what can we say to the turning of the tables here McGraw with the three-one victory over Edwin Allen four-one on aggregate full-time highlights and McGraw coming forward early winning a penalty in just the second minute. What a start for them and Isaac Mason off the upright into the back of the net no chance Williamson and it was Mason's fourth of the season. McGraw with a dream start to nail an aggregate at that stage. Good chance in the first half for Edwin Allen ball kicked over the top from Patrick Harrison just not quite sorting out his feet there and finding a corner and opportunity missed. Then this a top save from Williamson on this occasion called into action and a strong left hand Devon Davis the man of the match was fouled we thought it was just outside here and referee set inside penalty saved though by Williamson who came up with another big save this time Mason unable to convert. McGraw continuing to come forward continuing to cause problems this man Davis again down the left hand side on his left foot great technique wonderful power and it took a strike of that quality to beat Lamar Williamson again that's after 37 minutes fourth of the season for Devon Davis two-nail on the day for McGraw at that stage first half going well this is an opportunity for Thomas their leading goal scorer didn't have much to say today they're number nine to Jay Thomas wide of the mark then into the second half Edwin Allen with lots of work to do getting a ball inside the area trying to cause trouble then they would get on a score sheet from this deflected and in and what a way for Jay Blackwood to come up with his second goal of the season they're number 13 it take a slight defection off the boot of David Hutchinson but it was certainly on target and Edwin Allen pulling one back but at this stage still with so much work to do at that stage needing four goals and that was just one McGraw ensured that it was put beyond them and it came in the 66th minute from Orlando Willock night through pass by Davis who picks up an assist to go with his goal he was certainly the best player on the day and Willock with a strike to the near post questions at first about side the official said no one will look off the mark in the season 3-1 McGraw and the away team with such a thorough performance Davis should have added another but a shock was a bit too central 3-1 McGraw they get the job done against Edwin Allen look at that performance from the Linsden base McGraw high 10 shots on target from 18 attempts just to one target for Edwin Allen the 2021 Ben Francis champions and they were kept at bay today three yellow cards all with an Edwin Allen shirt attached and some seven corners from McGraw high they enjoyed majority of the possession at 58 percent and three one winners they're into the round of 16 into group C the water play of the matches with Jeanne it's no other than Devon Davis and congratulations Devon Dennis you are the water man of the match Devon they call you messy I need to know the meaning behind that name well group in my place and we are playable family I'm Boonzee just I call my messy so from that hand they always call my messy well you're following so much of Messi's footsteps today and you scored some goals for your team tell me about you guys moving on to the round of 16 how do you feel well from do a court say everything I got record which is coach I just do a photo yeah okay congratulations and thank you all right thank you and now we will come


First question is from CW Bausermann. If you're not getting, if you're not able to get eight hours of sleep in a row, is it worth it to try to take a nap to make up for it? Well, okay, two things. First, you can't totally make up for lack of sleep at night with naps, but it does help a lot, okay? So it's not like you're fixing the problem. It's kind of like a band aid a little bit, but you definitely do get benefits. It's like supplements to whole foods. Yeah, it's something like this. You know what I'm saying? Like it's better than you not, right? But then whole foods are the way to go. Good nights, full nights, the rest of the way to go. Yeah, so let's say you get six hours of sleep and you don't nap and you compare yourself to getting six hours of sleep with a nap. You're gonna get better health. You're gonna be more alert, less inflammation if you add the nap. But if you compare that to a full eight hours of sleep at night, it's not gonna be as good.  Crazy how fast time flies, by the way. Sleep is obviously one of the first things that is just not the best when you first have a baby. Were you finding yourself napping? Were you doing anything like that? I actually didn't nap at all. And I'm actually, you're putting me on a front street here. I'm actually not a good example in this because it was only a short while, but the 30 days where I was home with Katrina was the only real 30 days that my sleep was really interrupted. She's taking that on completely herself. So she has managed, once I read to him at night after his bath time and I put him down sometimes, so we go back and forth on who puts him down. But after I put him down or she puts him down, the whole night shift, she has managed that completely. So I'm a bad example of somebody your typical fathers who talk about not getting sleep all the time. But when I was, I would adjust my eating habits and then also how I was training based off of that. So there has been nights, I haven't been 100% perfect with nights since we've had Max, and especially in the first 30 days. During that time, I was modifying my workouts.  I know they recommend to new moms to nap with the baby naps to help make up for the lack of sleep at night. Here's the other part of naps that are awesome. Forget about making up for poor sleep. It does help, like I said, but forget that for a second. Naps on top of your good sleep that you get at night has muscle building benefits. Bodybuilders and strength athletes and strong men. You should put naps in naps. Yeah, don't fire. Have utilized a mid-afternoon nap for a long time and have found, they've all said that this is great for building muscle. This is great for recovery, but they need to be short. You don't want to go to, you don't want to go. I was going to speak to that because I don't know if you guys have done a stint of a nap where it was like an hour or half hour or 10 minutes. I always prefer the 10 minute naps because then you wake up and you're a little more energized versus if I go a little bit too long, it almost ruins the rest of my day in terms of me being more drowsy. Well, yeah, or you have the counter that sometimes if I were to get an hour or a two hour nap in the daytime, it screws up my sleep for the next night. Right, exactly. Then I can't fall asleep at nine o'clock, 10 o'clock at night. I'm wide awake till two in the morning. So sometimes I will, if I have a bad night's rest, I'll modify my workout, pay attention to my eating because I also notice I have cravings all the time and then just tough it out until the evening. And then I go to bed and get a really good night's rest. It's only when I have maybe a few days where I've strung together where I've had really terrible sleep where I'll probably end up in the middle of the day just being like, look, I'm just like so ineffective right now. I have to just shut it down. So I've got this down to a science, okay? So I love using naps to reinvigorate myself and to feel better for the second half of the day when I wanna give good attention to the kids and to Jessica when I'm home from work. So anything more than about 30 minutes, I wake up and I feel like out of it, maybe bad mood, a little groggy. If it's an hour and I wake up, I'm like a zombie until it's time to go to bed. So for me, it's between 20 to 30 minutes and here's what I do. Here's my hack, right? I go home, I get my headphones. I don't go into totally dark room because I don't wanna go so deep in sleep that again, I wake up like half asleep.  It probably takes me about five to seven minutes to fall asleep, I have no idea. All I know is is about 30 minutes later, I wake up and I feel alert, I feel good and it doesn't, it doesn't interfere with me. You're such a getting that ram a lot quicker.  You're the guy, like this dude, we're not even, anytime we're in a car. The plane hasn't, yeah, plane, a car, it doesn't matter, just you can sleep anywhere. We're sitting on the couch, we're all watching TV, kids running around, just falls asleep.   This is a weird soldier. Yeah, like a weird hack that you have. Dude, listen, brain FM, put it on 20, 30 minutes later. Yeah, I need that.  Otherwise it takes me a little long. And again, I don't do it in a totally dark room because then I get too deep in sleep and it's hard to wake up.


In this overview, we are going to demonstrate three items. First, we are going to show you how a cryptographically verifiable COVID-19 digital certificate can be generated within DHIS2. Next, we will show you how this certificate can be generated using an online public web portal. Lastly, we will show you how this online public web portal can be used to verify the certificate. In the example that we are showing you, the relevant vaccination data required to generate the certificate is collected using DHIS2 tracker. The program may have other variables, as is the case here, but at minimum it will need to be configured with the WHO recommended variables for generating the COVID-19 certificate. We are able to generate different versions of the certificate depending on if the person is fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or not. In this case, the person we are viewing has received two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccination and is considered fully vaccinated given current procedures in this country. With all of the data on this person being entered for both the first and second vaccination events, we are ready to generate our certificate. We can do this directly from the person's record by adding a new program stage called vaccination certificate. After adding in this stage, we see a button Generate Certificate. This process of certificate generation includes sending the relevant demographic and vaccination event data entered by health staff to a certificate renderer from DHIS2 via an interoperability engine. As part of this process, the certificate will also be signed by the public key infrastructure and sent back to DHIS2. Let us proceed to generate the certificate in DHIS2. The certificate uses a template that includes both plain text such as their name, date of birth, and vaccination details, and also includes a cryptographically verifiable QR code. This is the code that can be used to verify the authenticity of the certificate. This certificate can be either downloaded or printed and given to the individual for further use as required. As an example, I could save the certificate to my computer by using the Save icon. We are also able to generate this certificate outside of DHIS2. The person accessing this certificate will need to enter certain identifiers in order for DHIS2 to retrieve the details of their record and render the certificate. The identifiers chosen here can be modified during the implementation period as needed. Similar to DHIS2, the Generate button will trigger the process of certificate creation. This process includes sending a request to DHIS2 directly to retrieve the details of the record, followed by DHIS2 sending this information to the certificate renderer. This certificate is also signed by the public key infrastructure. Instead of displaying the certificate in DHIS2 however, the certificate will be displayed directly within the web portal. In this case, to generate the certificate, there are two identifiers plus a verification. Once this information is entered, we can select the Generate button in order to generate our certificate. We can see that the certificate generated here is exactly the same as the one that was generated within DHIS2 including both demographic details as well as details of the vaccination. At the top, we also see the cryptographically verifiable QR code. The last item that we would like to demonstrate is the process of verifying the vaccination certificate. In this example, we will demonstrate using a combination of the web portal along with a PDF copy of the certificate in order to perform this verification. This must be done using a device with a camera. We will use a phone in this demonstration. From the phone, we can enter our verification details and select Scan. This will open up our camera and allow us to scan the certificate. The certificate will then be scanned and verified using the public key infrastructure. We can see the response after scanning the certificate showing us that it has been verified. We also see the details of the vaccinations that the person has received so far. This output can be modified based on the certificate type that you are verifying. In this overview, we have demonstrated how a framework for the generation and verification of a COVID-19 digital cryptographically verifiable certificate has been implemented in DHIS2. To learn more about the technical details associated with implementing this certificate, please visit the HispVietnam GitHub page as well as the certificate demo site. We also have a dedicated page on the COVID-19 certificate work we are performing globally via our website. If there are any questions about these initiatives, please do not hesitate to contact us on the community of practice.


How is, how are we all doing today? Good? I'm brushing tailed. I'm drinking my coffee right now, but at least I am more aware than last week where I was kind of out of it. Yeah. So let's see. How long did that last, your little recovery period? It was just Saturday. After Sunday, I felt fine. So it was just Saturday where I was groggy and sore and stuff. Good. Let's see who's here. So we have Benjamin, Hilary, Kay. Kay might be coming on in a week or so to talk about something. I won't spoil a surprise, but she'll come on and talk about something. Tommy, hello, mom. Hi, mom. Happy. Hi, mom. Alish, Lynette, Thomas. Alish, you just pop in here, man. Just, just do it. Throw on your shirt and pop in. Nancy, Chris. So I guess Chris says me being out of it is normal. So if I'm in it. So that's who's watching. Well, well, thank you everybody for watching.  Mag's got her M&Ms. Oh, hi, Jonathan. Hi, Betsy. I'm drinking my coffee in my week of tree mug. Yeah, I'm gonna drop it straight down. You ready? Oh, that's tremendous. It's like one of those games where you get a little basket to catch the. So we got anything exciting? Anything exciting happening? My orange clothes are in whatever that. Yeah. In that place that starts with the L. Where is my Slovenian teacher when I need her? Ljubljana? Maybe. You know, and you and I have both probably heard the name of his town so many times. Probably. Hi, Mira. Mira's saying hi too. Hi, Mira. Hey, Mira. Oh, Nancy's feeling lonely. Well, sending hugs your way, Nancy. Lots of hugs. And hello, Leah. She's on Facebook. Oh, wow. I'm sorry. I just noticed what Jonathan said. That's pretty cool. Triplets in the 1766. But they didn't survive. Oh, neither a none of them. I guess. Yeah, back then I, you know, twin multiple births are definitely more tricky. Yes. Imagine how big you would be with triplets and none of them. And back then there really wasn't C-sections. I think she had to push them out for the most part. So it's a beautiful day here in Ottawa. Yes, here too in Kentucky, Megs. We always find something more later today. Hmm? What? The weather. It's good. The weather, yes, the weather. The weather is nice. And I was laying out by the pool yesterday. Nice and hot. It's like, did you have work yesterday? Well, afternoon after work. It's sunny until like 8 p.m. here. So if I can just, yeah. It's sunny in here until like nine because we're more north than you. It's weird. Like it's almost my bedtime and still light outside. Yeah. Something we all have in common, weather and dead ancestors. You do. Calling it Mindy, did you do that? Did you grab that? No, I did. It's there. It was actually really quick on that one. A quick. So today we're gonna do little things a little bit out of order because Mindy can only be with us for the first half. No. Well, yeah, Megs, you missed that. But so we'll do a quick, we'll just go ahead and do our quick little wiki tree challenge update before we go on to the rest of it. So right now we're working on Devin Noelle Lee. Which should be interesting. It is quite interesting. Just because Devin is, Devin is a, she has a big personality. She's one of two. She is so bubbly and fun to talk to. She really is. She's always smiling. She's always bouncing. She mentioned you in the live cast on Wednesday, Megs. She did. Yeah. But you bothered her to get on wiki tree, I think. I did. I did. I even grabbed her to come on a live cast with us when we were at Roots Deck. She happened to be walking by and I said, Devin. Oh, wow. What was that? Oh, yeah, I got it too early. Because her booth was right by ours. That's right. That was fun. Yeah, I remember. So people are having fun with her branches. It's taken us a little bit to, you know, get them flushed out and filled out to where we can get to some more of those brick walls. But I will say that we have Deeter working this week really hard. So you know what that means. And, you know, a lot of United States records. So for anybody out in the audience that, you know, hasn't joined in yet, please come in and look. We've got plenty of places you can work. What are some of her surnames? What are some of her surnames? She has a lot of them. She actually does. I'd have to look, because I've been working on a, I've been working on a Kramer line. Kramer? Yes. And who's, I was thinking more of the German, because Deeter. Oh, yeah. I haven't actually looked at what his lines were yet. But Zemstein and he worked Molter and he worked the Mueller's so far. Mueller's, yeah. Yes. Cool. Thank you. Yeah. So lots of good, good stuff happening this week. Have we, have we gotten any, do we have any bounty points yet? We have some. We have some. And we have already over 27 people participating to some extent. So that's good. And we've had a lot of people come in and doing individual things, like looking for land deeds. Thank you, Greg. We need more people to write biography. She really wants to see some good narrative on some of these profiles, just to look at other people's writing styles.  She likes to write stories. So she wants to see how we write stories. So let's, let's do it. Let's, let's impress another guest star with our wonderful skills. I have to say that, and I think I've said this every week, is that I get so much feedback because of this, Mindy. It's incredible, this and great for Chris Whitton to come up with the idea. And, and I'm just so impressed with how you have picked this up and carried this. And this has been an incredibly productive and, and noteworthy experience for all of the people in the professional genealogy fields. So many people let me know how excited they are that they got to be on. That's great though. And it's been a lot of fun. I mean, we're still having fun with it, you know? And, and it's part of it that's extra fun is that not like with your own tree where you get places and you're like, well, I'm kind of stuck there and I'm kind of stuck there. You know, every week we get a brand new tree to just go out in the wild on. So, you know, you get as much as you can. And then guess what? Next week you have a brand new tree to just get out there and find all that fun stuff for. So, yeah, it's been a blast. So it's a good, it's a good time.  We interview them, we show them what we found. So tune into those. And they're all recorded. They're all, you can watch them all. They're on YouTube and Facebook, so. On the wiki tree channel. On the wiki tree channel. We do have a specific playlist for the wiki tree challenge and all of them are there. And I think I put them like at the top of the channel so you can easily find them. And if you're working and you just made me think of it, if you want to go to the Spotify, type in wiki tree playlist, you'll find like almost 70 hours, 50, 60, 70 hours. So you can use it nonstop. Yeah, it's just, it's a collaborative playlist. It is. So Diane, on Wednesdays it's usually at 8 p.m. Eastern time but every once in a while we'll change the time to accommodate for a guest if they're in different time zone like we have done 6 p.m. Eastern time. And I know for Nathan, we're doing a little bit earlier as well. What is Nathan gonna be on? He's next week, but I don't think he'll be on next Wednesday, maybe, but he'll be on for the wrap up and that's when we're doing the timer earlier. That's too bad. That's too bad. He's one. He's so cute. Max likes reading his books. I do. He's the first guest that we've had so far that his entire maternal and paternal side come from the same country. Oh really? Yeah. He's pretty rooted in the UK. Yeah. A lot of his books are historically close to where he lives and where he grew up. So that's fun. Yeah, I was telling the team, the England people are, they're already experienced from the England project. They're gonna be really, really busy and the rest of us, we're just gonna have to start learning those skills because that's a lot of ancestors for just them to cover. Yeah, so Nathan's doing a good one if you guys are wondering who Nathan is. Nathan Dillon Goodwin. Yep, he's a crime genealogy writer. He's a genetic genealogy writer and he just, all of his books are about him solving genetic genealogy mysteries, which is fun. But his latest book, he started a new series. The first book is a series based on a specific person. And the new series are based in the US and they're about investigative genetic genealogy. So doing crime investigation for genetic genealogy. I was reading Hillary's note. She's trying to connect herself. Well, don't wait for it, wait for his week, Hillary. Yes, wait for his week, Hillary. Don't do it yet. Yeah, that'll be interesting week of all of the ancestors being from the same place. But who knows, maybe we'll be able to find, maybe we'll stop a mist, I don't know. Who knows what we'll find. Like last week we had that one Denmark person show up and that was shocking. That was on the Norway half of the tree. Is that Devon's? Yeah, that's not on Devon's, that was in Scott's. I was gonna give her a say, you're releasing secrets. No, I'm not telling you any secrets. Secrets are kept until Wednesday. Unless you're part, unless you're like involved and you know, like if you're part of the challenge. You're in the no. In the no. Okay, so that was our update on the week of your challenge. And if you have any questions, please put them in the chat. I guess we'll go on to the rest of our segments. We're off current, so. Our question of the week this week, Max was overwhelmed by the answers. I so was, I need to get my screen set up here. Here we go. There we go. So what was our question of the week? I think it was a fun one. It was and there were a lot, a lot, a lot of answers. I'm gonna pull this up. Gotta get rid of us. Here we go. Make that bigger. The question of the week, how fun was this? 90 answers, 90 answers, there's five pages of answers for people to go look at. And there were lots of great answers and lots of great back and forth. I loved the answer that said, well, I'll show you when we get to it. There's lots of pictures too, which I know is gonna make Sarah happy. My husband was a C-141 pilot in the Air Force during Vietnam. This is from Alexis Nelson. And he also flew helicopters, but this isn't him. This isn't a picture of Alexis's husband. This is a picture of his first cousin once removed. This is like one of AJ Jacobs, my first cousin's sister's brother's first cousin's sister-in-law. So this was Alexis's husband's first cousin once removed. Joe Elizabeth Nelson, who married Jack J. Catten. So she put up a picture of this aviator. He was well known for flying the first B-29 across the Pacific to the Mariana Islands in 1944. That's pretty nifty keen. And there's a lot of people, there were a lot of people who got involved in the, there was a lot of back and forth in conversation about a lot of the postings. And one was that my brother-in-law was stationed where her husband was stationed. And then they start talking and like, they meet each other on this. This is so cool. My uncle, Bud, this is from K-Nite. Hey, K. Hey. My uncle, Bud, Martin Anthanson, began flying in 1935. In 1936, he established the Anthanson Airport, the second airfield in Onondaga County, New York. I don't know how to pronounce that. In the grass field, 1250 feet long with a road at one end, a driveway through the middle. Wouldn't the driveway through the middle be a little bit problematic when you're landing aircraft? Just saying. Anyway, it's really cool. And then she's got a picture of the board in the picture of the runway. If you've never seen a grass airfield, they're really fun looking.  But what I really thought was neat about this, I told you, a lot of people were going back and forth in some of the comment sections. Chris Witton thought it was really neat that K. Nite's family had built this airport. That's cool. Janet Gunn, her great uncle, Alan Meacham, was a Royal Naval Air Force Air Service, nice. And this is a fun one, it's fun, but Thomas Kerneline, Thomas, are you here today? Yeah, I saw him. I have an uncle and some other relatives who've been associated with flying, but my personal favorite is a story about a man who wanted to become an aviator but never managed to achieve that goal. My great-grandfather, Irvin John Kerneline had long fascination with aviation, wanted to study flying, get a pilot's license, but he enlisted into the Army, into the field artillery during World War I. Before he could chase after that goal of becoming an airman at the close of the war, he entered a program allowing American soldiers in France to study. So he studied aerodynamics and hopes that it might help him become a pilot. However, when he returned home, he never realized his goal. And so however he gave up on what had once been his dream, he still hoped he might be able to impart his love of filing flying on his son, which is why when my grandfather was less than two years old, I.J. had him taken up in an open air cockpit plane, which cured him from ever wanting to fly again as well. How about that? That's, that would cure me. My uncle was a pilot. He took me out flying. And I've actually flown his plane. He was flying. So that was fun. As a kid flying an airplane, you're like, really I can fly this, right? I didn't, I was never allowed to land or take off. No. No. Don't drink. No. With my love, there'd be somebody driving across the grass field in a car. Let's see, Navy pilots, guess who belongs to this fella? Oh, that picture looks familiar. Yeah, yeah. Steve, anybody can guess who it not, don't say it out loud because you know who you are because you're in here. Who does this picture look like? I think I know who, I know, I know it. Let's take one of our favorite wiki-triers, Papa Hat, a scarf and a pipe in his mouth. And he's in the chat. You've got locker pints now. I know. I think I know. Papa Camel is the grandfather of Chris Mariello. I knew it. I knew it. That's why he said it was the best, he said he had the best one. How about that? He was a staff sergeant for the US Air Corps. Nice. He got a good conduct metal, five bronze loops, American campaign metal, he's got so many metals, I can't even mention them all. How cool is that? What is this? Hot aviators, this is from Lynn Sarah Galbrenson. Not aviators, but duck hunters. Hunting ducks with the aid of an airplane, Dr. C.W. Bryant, Bert Simmons and Ira Rives left Friday evening for Calusa and Glen Counties where they will hunt ducks. They've engaged an airplane in advance. The airplane will scare up the ducks and the three will do the shooting.  It just took the planes far, far away. Interesting concept. I like this one. This was from my dad was too young for World War II from M. Ross. He was in the RAF in the early fifties as a medical officer, but never got to fly. And so as he aged, they ended up being able to get him to go off once they had done some restoration of some planes in Hamilton. So he got to go fly in a Lancaster bomber. How about that? That's pretty cool. Oh, another fun one, another fun one. I'm not 100% sure this is really qualified but this is my great grandfather with one and only plane. His name was Fullerton George Gordon Armstrong but known as Gordon Armstrong an engineer and entrepreneur in Beverly in East Riding of Yorkshire in 1910. He took to the air for the first time and last time. He flew from Beverly's Westwood in a single second hand Blario aircraft into which he had fitted a 25 horsepower and Zenzi. I don't think I would try and find anything that I just added a plane to, really. And Jetta's here with us. Yeah, yeah, Jetta's here. I see that. He crashed it. He crashed on his first flight. So that was his first and his last aircraft. So that was fun. Thank you, Jetta. That was great. I'm gonna bounce over, let's see. Okay, here we go. I'm showing the ones. If you've got photographs with these it makes it way more interesting, just saying. Some of the stories are just fabulous but having the pictures, at least it makes Sarah happy. Second Lieutenant Lauren M. Davis of the 447 bomb group corresponded with my grandfather Wallace K. Swanson as part of General Motors' Ride a Fire program during World War II. And Catherine Hondros, you're so cool. She has researched Lauren's service and family tree in hopes of finding a living relative to give the letters that were written to her grandfather. Isn't that cool? I just think that's so cool. WikiTree really connects people. Oh, let's see, I have that on one. Yes, my grandfather, this is from Doran Jacobs or Doran Jacobs. Yes, my father, John Jacobs was a World War pilot in World War II. Flying is a very young man because his mother gave him a birthday present for flying lessons. How cool is that? Ooh, very. So he got an aeronautical PhD and went on to work in the precursor for the astronauts program. That's pretty cool. Ah, let's see. I think I had that on the one I wanted to talk about. There's way too many answers for us to talk about them all, guys. Yeah, there's tons of them. We had hours and hours to talk. Yeah, okay, here we go. So I thought this was a nice picture. This is Rudolph Eugene Broft, second lieutenant aviation section, Sigma-Polar 1914, train pilot in the U.S. and Europe, 1917, I don't know how to, the Dei Edelian order. I have no idea what that is. But anyway, that's cool, cool picture. The best picture of all this week though, no offense, Chris. The best story, the best picture is this one. My grandmother's brother, Lieutenant Colonel Reginald LeMonde Benwell, Aviators Certificate 165, 1911. He imported the first aeroplane, a British box kite into India and it was suggested for Army development. But the best part of this whole story is that she's recently met Reggie's great-granddaughter because of WikiTree. Isn't that cool? Who posted that one? What's that? Who posted that one? That's from John Thompson. Oh, cool. Isn't that, so we had lots of really great suggestions, lots of great stories, lots of great photographs for the question. I love photographs. But I love, there were so many like WikiTree connections going on too. Yeah, that's really what like the question, like all of these, the question of the week and stuff, it gets you thinking about your ancestors, you know, making connections, writing about them. So, cause maybe something you had maybe in the back of your mind, it kind of brings it forward and gets you to work on that. So I think that's really cool. Now, so kind of in this, our profiles of the week are kind of in a similar theme too, our question of the week. And I think it's a really cool, I think it's super cool profiles of the week because I've been to NASA so many times.  Actually, I actually wanted to be an aerospace engineer for a while, so I could. That's cool. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so, cause I also live right by, you know, I live in Florida, the space, NASA's right there. When the rockets, when they have launches, do you get to see the rockets going up? I saw one once cause we went, we saw, I saw a launch once, which was pretty cool. So our profiles of the week, we decided to do astronauts because Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, who recently passed away on April 21st. Wow, April 28th, sorry. He's from Italy, he's Italian, Chris. So born in 1930 in Italy. He flew on Gemini 10 mission. Oh, bye, Mindy. Bye, Mindy. Yes, she has a prior engagement she has to go to. Don't forget to post how close you are to people in the chat and I'll put it up. I'm 17 from Michael, he's my closest. My mom's gonna be excited about my closest connection cause through her. So Michael Collins flew on the Gemini 10 mission in 1966 and flew on the Apollo 11 in 1969 and he retired from NASA in 1970. And from 1971 to 1978, he was the director of the National Air and Space Museum. That's cool. I'm really excited about these profiles guys. Yeah. So next we have, we have a lot of, we have a lot of, most of them are United States based, just because it, you know, we have the, you know, of NASA's here and stuff. And we do have a couple of, like, I mean the first one, he was from Italy. So there you go. So Judith Reznik. A lot of them we have featured or have died during the Challenger mission, unfortunately. So Judith Reznik was born in Ohio, 1949, hide in Florida in 1986. She flew on the Discovery STS-41 and she was an American engineer and NASA astronaut who was part of the Challenger mission. And we have a few of those profiles. And look, she has Jewish roots. She got her PhD in electrical engineering. Very cool. Next we have Alison Onizuka from Hawaii. Born in Hawaii in 1946 and also was part of the Space Challenger that was destroyed in 1986. He flew on, also on the Discovery STS. These numbers don't mean anything to me, but I'm gonna read them off anyway. STS-51C as MS-1. And he was also an aerospace engineer. Next on our list, Michael Philip Anderson born in New York in 1959 and died over Texas in 2003. He was a US Air Force payload commander teaching pilots how to try how to fly refueling aircraft at Plattsburg Air Force Base in New York when NASA chose him as one of only a handful of black astronauts. In 1998, he flew on Endeavour STS-89 and in 2003, he flew on the Columbia and he died when Columbia broke apart during re-entry. Pretty cool. I like how we have all their badges on their profiles. Next we have Sally Ride, an American physicist and astronauts. She became the first American woman in space in 1983. And she was the third woman in space overall. She was the first to be from the Soviet Union. She flew on two Challenger missions. She was born in Los Angeles and died in California in 2012. She co-founded the Sally Ride Science, a nonprofit organization aiming to inspire upper elementary and middle school students with a particular focus on encouraging girls to pursue careers in STEM. Awesome. Next we have Wobo Johannes Ockels. I think I did that good. I think I did that right? Born in the Netherlands in 1946, he was a Dutch physicist, aviator and astronaut of the European Space Agency. He died, excuse me, in 2014 in the Netherlands. He survived a leptospherosis infection in 1982 and the journey into space in 1985 and aircraft crash in Lyle in 1989 and a heart attack in 2005. So he was a lucky man. In leptospherosis, the flesh-eating disease? I think so. That was a fancy term for it, I think. So, very cool. Next we have probably one of the most more famous astronauts, Neil Armstrong. He's been featured as a profile before. So he was born in Ohio in 1930. He served in the Korean War and joined NASA's astronaut program in 1962, which led his command position to the Gemini 8 program in 1966. He landed in Waffel, the moon with Buzz Aldrin as part of Apollo 11 crew on July 20th, 1969. So, first man on the moon. That's one small step for man and one giant leap for mankind. Betsy, you have to fill in all your trees so you can get connected and you'll have more of these people to be connected to. Yeah, all of mine are always through my paternal grandmother's side, usually. Every once in a while.  Yeah, I do. I'll show you guys. No respect, no respect, woman. Yeah, supposedly, says my mom. Well, we won't talk about that. So next we have Gus Grissom. He was one of the original NASA Project Mercury astronauts and he was the second American to fly in space and the first member of the NASA astronaut corpse who flew into space twice. He was killed along with fellow astronauts while performing pre-launch tests before he would have been his third trip to space. So he died in Florida in 1967. You know, all of these... It's really sad, but all of these people, they led to the development of us going into space and, you know, fortunately, a lot of them passed away during their travels. Like another one, Sharon. McAuliffe? McAuliffe? Thank you. Yeah, McAuliffe. She was also another one who was part of... Say that one more time. She was the teacher in space. Oh, yes. Chris said that he... Had connections to her. Yes, and then from her... Sorry, my brain and my tongue are working at different places. In the first grade, they were watching the launch and he saw it explode. Mm-hmm, because she was from his part of town. So, born in Boston, she was to be a very special mission specialist on the Challenger Space Shuttle and the first teacher to hold class in orbit. And she died during the Challenger mission as well. Tony, awesome profiles this week. Yeah. Next, we have Dix Gobi, born in Washington State in 1939. He enlisted in the Air Force in 1957 and awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. In 1984, he flew in the Challenger mission. And then in 1986, he was also part of that Space Shuttle Challenger that was destroyed during the launch. So, we have our last one. Edward White. He was born in Texas in 1930 and he was a pilot for Gemini IV, a 66 revolution four-day mission, June 3rd to June 7th, 1965. And on Gemini IV, Edward White became the first American to walk in space. He was killed along with fellow astronauts while performing a pre-launch test over Florida in 1967. Benjamin's talking about Werner von Braun, who was a German rocket scientist who after the war became the leader of NASA and helped get NASA to the moon. Ooh. And for us to walk on the moon. So, those are our profiles of the weeks. I wanted to show who, how was everybody connected to everybody? Were they talking about that? They were. I was trying to put them up as they were going. I think people were very touched about the challenger accident. Yeah. I think it's this one. No, not that one. Then I had the other one. There was one word through my mom. Is that Michael Collins? Unless something changed, it was Michael Collins. It wasn't. That wasn't through my mom. That was through my dad. Oh, no, sorry. Who was it? Who was it? Thank you very much. I promised there was one through my mom unless somebody made some more connections and something changed, which is highly possible. Oh, wait, Edward White. That's new. Sorry, I guess some more connections were made and now. It wasn't. Not anymore. That was my college, but she says that through her father, Joe. I think maybe more connections were made or something. Let's see through the maternal line. Maybe that's, no, I don't know. I don't know, man. There was one, I promise, but I don't know where it went. I was so excited, but I thought it was one of the closer ones. OK, well, then those are it. Yeah, I don't remember that. Yeah, I was not. I wasn't even born, to be honest. I was not born yet when the calendar accident happened. I was walking out the door and a friend said, wait, wait, they're getting ready to launch. I stepped back in the door just in time to hear go for throttle up and see it. And I was like, I will never forget that. It was crazy, it was crazy sad. We have a group of quirky, weird genetic genealogists to get together every time there's a launch of anything. So if there's a rocket launch, we will all go online and watch it together. So that's fun, that's fun. My dad keeps track of when the satellites come over. The satellites and also the I forgot the one that's just in space all the time that yes, there we go.  You'll be able to see it. Charles Platt says he's 20 degrees from Michael Collins. We must be related to a lot of people, too, because they're all related to the same people we are, Sarah. And Joe, it's the southern the southern routes would probably get us. Hey, Sarah, yes, were there some cool photos of the week? Yes, there were. We were always related. That's surprising. You know, I don't know that the theme is favorite. Favorites. So it would be interesting to see what people chose as a photo for favorite, depending on their interpretation of it. So let's go. There's 53 to look at. This is the last thing we got to do. So we can take the last one. Let's just look at photos. Unless anybody has questions or want to talk about something else, but we can look at photos. Maybe they picked their favorite photo or their favorite ancestor or their favorite pet or their favorite location. So I don't know. Oh, isn't that a cute little bit? Look at the shoes. Look at her shoes. That is adorable.  I'm in my favorite bathrobe and pajamas and I am ready for COVID-19. Oh, this is Frank. So in his attitude. So I am I am all ready to go to work in my pajamas for all of 2020 and 2021. The albertus, Adelbertus Sismanski family. I think they pronounced that pretty well. Thank you. Thank you from Poland.  You're going to start a drinking game that any time you have to pronounce something you can drink. Coffee or I have coffee in my hand right now. It's it's early where I am. Well, same for Benjamin. He it's midnight for him. Or what time? I don't know what time it is. Who posted what is it? That's a great picture. It says manager of the Harvey System Newsstand and Alexis uploaded this one. Let's see that picture. That's cool. So that's some somebody back there standing there in there. Can you imagine working outside on a news at a newsstand on the sidewalk? That looks like a boardwalk and the heat and having to wear that high collar. This was New Mexico, too. Nice. That's cute in Rhode Island. On George Ellworth with the granddaughter Florence.  Is that what that's called? That's what they're called now. I'm trying to figure out what it is. It looks like a the monster from Little Shop of Horrors. Me, Seymour. Bob Ward, his wife, Patricia and his mother. Nice mustache. Photo was from the 1900. Orrin Dayton Smith. 1916. Oh, that's a pretty one. Look at that wedding dress. 1880s, 1890s. 1895. Winifred McCants. That's cute. The Johnson's. I like that Benjamin. It looks like a boomerang. That's fascinating. It looked like somebody had a boomerang cut caught in their hair. Oh, that's funny. Nice car. 1919 in Texas. Oh, that's cute. Oh, Betsy. Betsy, I've put this one. It looks so excited. To be going to the United States. That's your grandfather, Betsy. Or your great grandfather. That is a great picture. I do like that. So that's a selfie, but it's not a selfie. The selfie is the... They could have put a timer on a camera. Maybe. But I still consider selfies when you're like holding the camera. Well, a self-portrait would be a selfie. Terminology. That's her dad. That's her dad. Leaving type H to the United States. Oh, I've seen this photo before. Thomas put this in another one. Yes, Kathy. Add some more pictures. And Betsy says that is her dad leaving type A. Yeah, I said that. Where were you? I don't know where I was. I was obviously gone. Mary Ann Stewart and Catherine Martin. Oh, he used it for the question of the week. There we go. For which one? The... Trying to remember... Artists? It was for the artist one. I was trying to pinpoint where we saw that. Siblings? Cute. Aw. What's the cute one? California. William Thompson. Nice. That's probably their favorite photo or you know they like sunsets or sunrises. That's a beautiful picture. It was just taken the other day. Nice. May 11th. Gathering sweet peas in Oregon in 1924. We're going to break it down. Looks like a drawing. Oh, it's colorized. Okay. Betsy has an interesting... Why are they calling it a bourbon breakdown? Maybe they broke down and had some bourbon. I was going to say but were they running bourbon? That was a question. Aw, I like that one. That's cute. Australia. They had cute people in Australia too. Everywhere else everybody's ugly. Only Australia are people cute. 1907 in Maine. I know I've said this many times but don't forget to tag your people in the photos. Not just upload them to the free space page because we want to know who they are and who they're connected to. Ernst Kelch. 1900 in Texas. The Kelch family. The Kelch family. Aw. Last surviving first generation members of William Theodore Schwartz family, son Bernie Schwartz, age 91 and daughter-in-law, Mrs. Bill Schwartz. Marlene Middenendorf. That's cute. Thomas Jefferson Point Dexter. That's a great log cabin behind them. Can you go bigger for that one? Yes. Wow. Wow. That's a great photo. Frenzy family. Listening to the radio. And Canada. Oh, Canada. Family and ensemble. That's a hard word. That's a violin. Oh, what's the bigger one called? Hello. Oh, expecting their first child. How cute. It's like a baby bump photo. She's even resting her hand there. Were those common? Did a lot of people do stuff like that? I don't know. I've never really seen photos like that before. 1867. No, not a specific baby picture like that. Baby bump. Painter family wedding. Pennsylvania. Wow. It's amazing to have those kind of photographs. Another one from the same family. Painter family reunion. It's Christmas time. That's cute. It's a very happy baby. Santa's coming. Those stockings are empty. Waiting for them to be filled. Another family reunion. Wow. Look, horsies. Horsies. I like how they're all spread out. Yeah. It's so symmetrical with the horse at each end. Yep. The guy on the right there took off his hat. Do you see how big that hat is? Yeah. Just to think it's way bigger than his head. Looks like the size of this child. Yeah. Let's put our kid in there. The Alec. Alec says it's corona distancing. Social distancing. Look at that hairdo. Another colorized one. The baby looks like it's floating in air. It's like this magical pillow suspended in time and space. I just don't like the colorized pictures. They just don't seem real once they're colorized. This was in South Africa too. Very cool. Piggies. Pig farmers.  Oh. Driving his new car. Yeah. Driving his new car. In the snow. With the top down. Do you know how hard it is to put up those cloth tops in the really cold weather? I would assume so. Very hard. Grandmother Dorothy Hubbard McDonald. Okay. We should do a comparison photo of the week where people do comparisons like that. That's a good idea. Maybe we can do that when you come on. Maybe. That's not what we're going to be talking about. Spares. Yeah. That's not me just putting that out there. Sarah the day before first. Sarah. Johnson. That's cute though. At SeaWorld in Southern California in 1989. Approximately age four. Cute. Interesting comment from Kelly that she read that those group photos are meant to show the family's prosperity. And interesting. I can see that. That too. George W. Fields family. That's a big family. I guess those photos are kind of like today when you post about your stuff on social media and show what you have and what you're doing and stuff. Those photos. Decatur. Illinois. Was that it? Was that it? Was that it? Was that it? Was that it? Was that it? Was that it? Was that it? Was that it? No, that's not a llama. Long legs. What is that animal? The ears are short. What is it? Somebody tell us. Photo was taken by a traveling photographer. Interesting. A goat. No, a lamb. I'm going to go with lamb. A very unhappy dog. Kay says it's a very unhappy dog.  Or maybe it's a goat. I think it's a goat. Or it'll, yeah. I can believe goat. Because if you look at the hooves too. Like have hooves. This is a cute one. Yeah. Turn your head sideways to see it though. Oh, that's a really good picture. That is so sweet. Wow. I need a neck brace now. There are goat carts. Everybody's agreeing with goat. Okay. Well, it's taking a bit. Hold on. Thinking about it. The CKWX band. Interested production. Come on internet. Work faster. So we got a cello. That's a big one. Then we have somebody with a tuba. A accordion. A oboe. A saxophone. A banjo. Some trumpets. And a trombone maybe. And a piano. Isn't that guy holding in the back? A trombone. I think so. Very cool. I would say clarinet. Two clarinets. I think that's a good one. This one is an oboe. Next to the sax. Maybe? No, that's a clarinet. You forgot the accordion. You're missing everything I say. I told you before we started that there was an issue. Yes. I want to know though, why is the guy holding the banjo have a violin? What do you call it? Where you play the violin with it? The Yeah. The reed? The horse hair bow. The bow. They're both holding violins as well. Yeah. That was real close. Thank you, Betsy. Thank you, Nancy. Look at all these people trying to help me out. Your mom? This was her answer. Stick. Betsy is a band director. The oboe has a little that's the reed. The oboe has a reed. That's where the reed was coming from. Did you zoom in enough? Did we see it? I just googled pictures of oboe. It's making me think slightly of a plasma band. Look at this. All of them at the bottom. It says what they are.  What's a cell cell phone? Which one is that? A cell cell phone. I want that up right now. That's a tuba. I guess I was thinking of a tuba, but it's a cell cell phone. I guess because you can't really see it back there. Cell cell phone. In the same family as a tuba. Learn something new every day. We spent a lot of time on that photo. Let's move on. Kelly is probably answering the question. I was thinking that it would probably be Sousa as well. Pronounce Sousa. That still looks like Sousa to me. Composer named Sousa. Sousa phone. Sousa phone. Sue's phone. Where is Sue? In her phone. Okay. Everybody is watching you. Oh my goodness gracious. What is going on here? Murder and mayhem. This could be a group of actors. This is my favorite photo. I like that. Barger Pocahontas party. Interesting. Okay. I think it's a funny photo.  Dog outfit. Cow outfit. Oh look. Thanks Christine. Sousa phone. By John Philip Sousa. Oh look he has a profile. I guess we're going to go look at that. He does. Every Fourth of July you hear lots of John Philip Sousa. If you are an American. Well it looks like he needs his profile worked on Christine. Better get on it. He's a picture. He was a leader of the U.S. Navy Band during World War I. In 1987 U.S. Congress declared his stars and stripes forever the National March of the USA. That's cool. He's flying in my head right now. Look. He died on my birthday where my family is from. That's pretty cool. That's some sort of connection there. He might be connected to me. Let's see. We're getting real off. We're getting real off. Isn't that what people like is when we go off on these weird little tangents? Yes it's true. Oh my goodness. Okay. Thank you for assigning her that work. You're welcome Christine. You can assign it to somebody else. Those last ones. Those were all the photos. We learned something new about the sousaphone. Benjamin. On the day of my birthday not the gear. There we go. People really like the music. It looks like we need to do a musical photo of the week. Yeah I think that would be fun. So we came up with two. One was musical of the week and the other one was what? Airplanes. That's what we just did. Murder. What'd you say? I don't know what the other one was. We'll have to watch this. I wanted to go back and watch it. I don't remember what we talked about. Do you remember what we talked about? I'm having trouble with that. I don't remember. Maybe you were thinking about it by yourself. I don't remember being part of the conversation. I said it. No matching faces. Christine says she's even still working on Friday night date night which happens every two weeks with Julie Ricketts on Friday afternoons at four o'clock or day like time. Yeah. Katie was on yesterday with her. Yay. I think Kay figured it out for us to matching faces. People who look a lot alike. Thank you Kay. You're my friend forever but you already know that. Okay. So we've obviously gone over time. That's okay. Yeah. Because we went into a tangent on Suicide Homes. Lots of stuff. So unless anybody has questions or if you guys just want to keep chatting I don't know what do you want to chat about but it has to be kind of on topic. Yes. We get back with our coffee. Yeah. If it has to be on topic. Benjamin said would love to see if we could solve murders. That would be great. When you said it has to be on topic which one of the topics does it have to be on? I don't know. Leah thank you so much for being here. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for putting up with our shenanigans. When we reached photo challenge Milestones how do we get a sticker for it? So usually if you post in the photo challenge and you mentioned that you reached a milestone you'll when we'll give you a sticker. Come on Steven. We went through a whole show. I know. Well he just popped in I think he wasn't here the whole I didn't see Steven the whole time. We didn't talk about it once. Nance Nance he's going back to the challenge. Yay. Oh she got a clean-a-thon. Yay Janine. She got her clean-a-thon t-shirt. I'm wearing my American my blue American mutt one. And I'm just enjoying genealogy at WikiTree. Yeah I wore that one on Wednesday and then I wore it to work on Thursday sport you know promoting WikiTree at work. You know I wear WikiTree stuff out and about all the time. I have so many of them that I just that's what I do. It's like not you know with my personality I need to stand out more. Especially in orange. We still need to find you that full orange suit Mags. Yes. Absolutely. Mags we need help in early Ontario if you want to assist. I think we got a real question too. Where in Ontario? So Kelly says there's been some mention on Facebook group concerning lots of contacting profile managers before you make a change or addition to an existing profile. I rarely do this and have never considered it rude. Could you weigh in and let me know how to proceed? Okay so I always post a note in the comments section that hey I'm working on this family line and I may add some sources and information to this profile. I always post that before I add or change anything. I don't unless I'm going and making a big really big change disconnecting somebody adding a relationship or something but if I'm just going in and like adding sources or something because it does show it in the change history what you did and you have the research notes so unless you're making a really big change that could cause problems like you don't need to reach out. But you can. Everybody does it differently. You can also if you're not maybe if you think you should or not if they're really an active profile manager you could reach out to them but if someone who's maybe not as active it really depends on the situation. I am looking Gainesboro Township I've never heard of it. I'm looking to see where it is if it's in somewhere I know of but I don't have any expertise to add for that. No, it's down in the Niagara region so I know general stuff but I'm not a good specific. I'll tell you who you can contact because Steve Fulton F-U-L-T-O-N if you go to Ontario Ancestors on Facebook and post a question there for Steve you'll see that and you guys can get in touch Chris you need Steve Fulton with Ontario Ancestors because he's down in Niagara. So there you go. Look we were productive we did some productive question answering but Niagara also has a good Ontario Ancestors group down there too like Benjamin says if you're changing what people have done you should talk to them first but if you're just adding stuff just do it. That's usually how I go about it because the idea of WikiTree is we're collaborating we're working on ancestors together but we also don't want to step on those. There's the balance. Yep. I figure I'm going to have less people angry at me for making changes to profiles if I just say hey I'm here I'm doing some I used to say I'm here I may be adding some stuff if you don't like what I've done check out the changes tab and you can revert it that's what Christine said about she puts in the research notes to the PM can edit as they wish so I also want to mention they know the profile manager doesn't really own the profile either they're more as we like to call them a curator and they're just taking responsibility of making sure yeah my mom knows about the owner code we should have Joe on one day that would be fun and there's the learning curve Steven says as long as the change is okay you should be fine yeah so just assume what was I going to say I don't know just tread carefully you know you have the honor code be nice I've heard Chris Whitten say so many times I want WikiTree to be the politest site there is you're welcome Kelly I'm glad I can answer and some profile managers do get offended you know just assume best intentions you know be courteous and I've had people who have come in and done changes without doing sourcing and I know that their changes are like internet stuff so I contact the person instead going hey you need to fix your whatever whatever I just say hey I'm aware of this and as far as I know it's not sourced do you have sourced information it would be great to add that if they don't then I hide their information until they do and Bender says nice to have people talking really politely to you all the time that's what WikiTree is all about our community that's really what sets us apart from everybody else we're so polite that's what Christine said channel your inner Canadian eh oops Cindy Engel posted yesterday that she was in working on a Canadian document or she was looking for Canadian people and all of a sudden she finds out that they were really from Wisconsin or somewhere I don't remember exactly where and I posted we are so sorry we really didn't mean for that happen is there anything we can do to make that up for you you're making overly polite Canadians Nancy was saying that people think of their changes as criticism but if you read the honor code assume best intentions so they you know it's kind of tricky so tricky waters well I think we will actually go now yeah unless there's that was a good question that was a good question bye Sue bye Sue but we I think I haven't actually eaten anything yet so I think I want to go and have some food I did I had breakfast and then I had eggs here we go yummy yes please here you go yummy so we will see you guys Wednesday to wrap up Devin's week next Saturday


Righty, we have a treat for you today. We got some footage from state line thrills on Instagram. I'll link their account down below. He recorded this from across the street. It was not recorded on property. You can even see the cars going by. But yeah, he got some awesome footage of the train going through its second launch of the track. And boy is this thing hauling. It's going really fast, especially through that inversion and then the many more inversions to follow. But it's definitely moving a lot faster than I had originally anticipated. I finally got home to actually sit down and digest it fully. This thing's going to be awesome. Definitely a unique experience and there's someone riding on it. If you were paying close attention there, there's a human that is able to sit down and ride on Copperhead Strike right now. That's making me super jealous. I wish I was that person or even the one of the water dummies behind him would have been great for me as well. But anyways, hope you guys really enjoy this quick update on Copperhead Strike testing. Hope you enjoy the footage. Go follow state line thrills on Instagram. Thanks so much for watching guys. Don't forget to hit that like button, subscribe if you haven't and share this video for others to enjoy. Have a good one guys. Bye.


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