Everybody forced here ripping 2022 like football hobbies, six box half case number 60 picker team style. We've got Brad R. Falcons and Titans, Brian F. Cardinals, Chris S. Niners, David S. Bills and Bears, Edward E. Panthers, Francisco Ravens, Hans H. Packers, Jason G. Texans, Jeffrey H. Steelers, Bengals, Chiefs, Joey A. Rams, Joseph M. Dolphins, Browns, Joven H. Chargers, Keith B. Patriots, Matt M. Lions, Matt J. Bucks, Matt P. Cowboys, Matthew C. Broncos, Raiders, Michael G. Vikings, Paul L. has the Saints in Washington, Rory C. Giant Seahawks, Stephen W. Eagles, Tyler O. Jets, Will Z. Jags and Coles. Let's get started here. Good luck, everybody. Star Wars Sapphire are filling up quick. John G. just grabbed three spots, brings the first Star Wars Sapphire to three. I know we'll get you a link for that. Premier level blue is Kylie Marie for the Cardinals, number two, one, 49, Silver Concourse, Ricky DeMar, Hamlin, Bills, Kyle Phillips. Three to go, Star Wars Sapphire. Breaking soon, everybody. Tri-color Premier level Julio Jones for the Bucks. That one's out of $1.99. Kenny Pickett on the sweet level rookie for the Steelers. Premier level Silver Lawrence, Jags, Silver Sensations, D-Hop Cardinals, Club level Silver Rookie, Hutchinson, Lions. Yeah, purples are full for tonight. Sweet level Tri-color Jamar Chase for the Bengals, number two, one, 49. Otis Anderson on the Giant Super Bowl Auto. Yeah, there's a few in there. Donny's leaving it earlier tonight because he's got something to do early tomorrow. And I'm also coming in early on my day off tomorrow now. And I've also been here since like 2 p.m. today. So Silver Concourse, Almond Ross, St. Brown Lines. So yeah, I'm trying to not wear myself down the week before the national. All right, Jordan, I know that's an NFL player. Concourse Rookie Blue is David Bell for the Browns. Over at 64 of $1.99. I have to make Thursday my day off now. If I can't, I have no idea. Premier level Silver Rookie, Tyrion Davis Price, Niners. I just want to try to get one full day off before I go to Chicago. Nope. It was tomorrow. That's no longer the thing. Silver's sweet level is Russell Wilson Broncos. Because then if I don't, then my next day off is going to be the Tuesday after the national. Can he pick it to 30? Rookie Orange Pulsar? I feel, I don't see no first off the line stickers. That was the same case as a hobby case. They are all hobby boxes. Stand up. Oh no, congrats Steelers. It's not the first time that's happened.  Not the first time I've seen that. Yeah, these are hobby boxes. This is from the exact same case as the last one. Yeah, it is. The empty case is on the ground right there. I watched for a steak. Okay, then. Awesome. I wonder if there's a parallel in here that's first off the line then. Very weird. Very weird. It's an orange concourse is Cooper Cup for the Rams to 49. Yeah. I'm very happy for the Steelers spot. We're here for the level silver is Geron Bland for the Cowboys. I've seen that before. I've seen a first off the line. I've seen a Stars and Stripes RPA in a hobby box before. A Ben T football hobby in like 2020. It was a big one too. I forget who it was. It was like CD or Jefferson or maybe even like a two or what? I don't know if it was like Bro or Herbert but it was like one of the bigger names. Icon silver perks for the Titans called level silver rookie good deckie for the Bucks. Captain Monterlin NFL player, Star Horse character, Sauce Gardner to 99 Roquan Smith, Jersey Card for the Ravens, Concourse Silver, Terry McLauren Commanders. One of my favorite games is a hockey player or Star Wars character. That's a fun game to play. I missed Jim Zorn, Star Trek commander. Silver, Concourse, Patrick Mahomes. I don't know about that one. That's my favorite game is Star Wars character or hockey player like former NHL. I think the legal stricter me with the Star Trek NFL, that could be wrong. Maybe that's why you win Star Trek. I think with Donny though he knows Star Wars pretty darn well. So he might catch a few but there's also just names that like so many characters have names of Star Wars that don't deserve names. That's true. That's the issue. They'll name the dude that walks across the screen for a second. Get a whole backstory. You know what I mean? Bartender. Yeah. Concourse tri-color rookie Trevor Penning Saints to 249, Jalen Tolbert to 49 Cowboys rookie auto. Or that Corrin trawler. No, like they'll actually give names. Like who is a dude and episode two where he meets Obi-Wan at the bar. Oh, the desktops guy? Yeah, dude. I don't know his name. He has a legit name and he had like one line. Silverfield level Mahomes chiefs. Not just like drug dealer or whatever. Creepy, creepy bar guy.  XRC, quarterback five. Should be Hendon Hooker for the Lions. I'm gonna double check real quick. Sounds all right. Go to the checklist. Check it out. XRC. Yes, Lions. Hendon Hooker. There you go. Congrats on that. Got Kway Walker, Concourse rookie Maroon for the Packers. Number to 149. There is a silver premier level in Joku Browns. Let me follow Luke so we know something's up. But there wasn't the parallel. That may have just been one slip up. I don't know. Tri-color club level. Montgomery bears the 149. Premier level rookie Silver is a Bernard for the Bills. Donnie, what's your favorite line from the Hampshire dance? Can you pick it? Silver, sweet level, Jordan Boyer Bills. What? Trevor Lawrence, field level. You know the Hampshire dance. I'm not about to sing it so. Does it have words? Does, that's a good question. I think it does. No, it does, it does, it does. Field level blue is Jamar Chase, Bengals the 49. I don't know the words. Scrage is not in this chaos. He is not in 2022 select. Conqueror Shrikey, Silver, Danny Gray Niners. Lave on the premier level. Red, sweet level, Duggar Pats to 49. Duggar reminds me of Tuggar and Russell Crowe is fighting around the world. Premier level Silver, Jess and Herbert Chargers. It's a Southlark episode where they're trying to watch the Terence of Phillip. Oh! Russell Crowe fighting around the world. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I think I do that. I thought it was like Chris of the World. They had to watch that show to try and see the Terence of Phillip movie trailer for sneak peek. Rikki Premier level blue, Matt Corral for the Panthers. Number to 149. Yeah, dude, it's great. Rikki Premier level Silver is Kenyon Green for the Texans. Yeah, it is Mayhem. It's a classic. Conqueror Shrikey, Silver, Jermaine Johnson the second Jets. It's a 99. Jerry Judy Jersey card for the Broncos. Conqueror Silver Rikki, Stingley Texans. Come on, where's our orange Polestar RPA? Come on. Wait, what is this? Silver Sensations as Hertz for the Eagles. Silver Club level or Sir Tambroncos. Where's the golden treasure box? Danny Gray out of 60 Rikki Maroonata for the Niners. It's Danny Eric Alperforme sooner this weekend. I'm gonna say yes, Jordan. I'm gonna say yes. And that goes off of me knowing nothing about that. All I know is Max Verstappen, Crystal Lave. All about that Red Bull Racing. It's a 99. It's Jersey card, McCaffrey Niners. Conqueror Silver Rikki and Allen Chargers. Nice, a field level tie. I am Mark Andrews for the Ravens, a 25. Silver Conqueror Shrikey, Trayvon Walker Jags. Hurdy Club level. Silver Conqueror Shrikey, Jamo Lyons. Jordan Davis field level rookie. Think so, Vaughn. I think I might go see Barbie on Thursday. Premier level blue is Lamar Jackson for the Ravens. Numbered to 149. I'm sorry? What? You don't want to see the Barbie movie on it? No, not really. Premier level rookie Silver is Vidarian Mathis Commanders. I'm not going by myself, that's for sure. Right, I'm going with my wife. Well, that would make sense. I have no one to go with, so I would only go. Go with Sam. Silver Sensations, TK Madcast. You and Sean could go together. Club level Silver, T. Higgins Beggles. What are the odds you think Sean will ever see the Barbie movie?  There are better odds that the Buccaneers win the Super Bowl next year than Sean saying the Barbie movie ever. Yeah, that's right, true. Silver, sweet level is Leonard Floyd Rams. I could pay Sean like 500 bucks to go see the Barbie movie. I don't think he'd do it. I don't think it will, Vaughn. I don't think it will. Premier level purple is Dallas Goddard for the Eagles to 75. To 49, James Conner, Jersey Auto for the Cardinals. So my goal, this is my goal. And I got, I hope it happens. It's Thursday night, go see Barbie. And then Sunday evening, like Sunday afternoon is to go to the real deal. We have a legit IMAX theater in Orlando, like legit and see Oppenheimer Sunday evening. Silver Concourse, rookie Khalil Shakira-Bills. That'd be a good place to see that. Candy Pickets and Sations. You got Silver, sweet level, Deion's Race with Lions. Tricolor, Concourse, Tuatonga-Vailoa, at 249 Dolphins. Silver, Premier level rookie, Soss Gardner for the Jets. I'm gonna get some pain in the abs so I can look like Ryan Gosling. Malik Willis at 25, Tideye RPA Titans. It's always when I say the crazy things that I pull like a decent card. Wait, I don't think it's, I guess this guy keeps saying crazy things.  Nice Malik Willis, Tideye RPA. Nice hit for the Titans. Drake London Club level, Oppenheimer's Three Hours. Yeah, that's another reason, dude. You make a three hour movie, it's not gonna make a ton of money unless it's a literal Avengers Endgame. Premier level tricolor rookie, Kyler Gordon for the Bayers. People are gonna see Three Hours and be like, ah, ah, it's gonna be like an at home thing even though it's literally a Nolan movie so you gotta see it in theaters. Silver Herbert's, that's a- You're standing cutler on the ring. That's what the casuals will think because they'll be like Three Hours in it. Or Extended Cut, Rewrung to the Sith. That's supposed to be like a four hour long movie. We don't need that, we don't need that. I'll watch it, George. You will watch it. Put it out there, I'll watch it. You and a lot of people will watch it. If it was on Disney Plus, I would watch it. But we don't need that. I need it. Drake London Mission Impossible looks pretty sick too but again, Three Hours. Silver Concourse to March Ace.  I was supposed to see this not where he drives off the road. Andre Silver Club level, JC Horne Panthers. I'm here to try Tarantino. I don't wanna see Tarantino movie about the making of the atomic bomb. It's a 99 Jersey Car, Jerry Judy Broncos. Here's another movie series I haven't watched Mission Impossible. Concourse Silver, Dak for the Cowboys. Yeah, I haven't seen Guardians 3 either but that's almost on Disney Plus I think at this point. Yeah, it's getting close. I haven't seen a movie in theaters in like a long time and I hate that because I like going to the movies. Concourse, Ricky Silver, Cade on Bucks. I think Guardians drops on Disney Plus I think sometime next month. I haven't seen Spider-Verse yet either. It's getting ridiculous out here. Kyler Murray, Concourse Gold, number to 10 with the Cardinals. Now you said Cardinals. You watched the first one? Yeah, I've seen that a lot. I've seen that probably like 10, 15 times. I just recently seen it like a month ago. It's an amazing movie. Emerald Level, Silver Workies and Mirror White Raiders. Brock Purdy. There are a lot of scenes in that movie that are awesome but the one where he, the leap of faith scene, that's like one of the best scenes in a superhero movie. That was a cool scene. Sauce Gardner. Sweet Level, Silver is D-Hot for the Cardinals. Concourse, Blue Rookie Garrett Wilson for the Jets. Nice one Jets, 81 of 199. Concourse, Silver, Herbert Chargers. That's the thing about going to the movies like that is you have to be careful with what you're doing. I usually all get like a bottle of water to take it there with me, take little sips here and there. But you got to be careful, especially when you want to see the whole thing. And a green, DeAndre Hopkins. Cardinals, Cardinals killed it. They're for the price of their spot. Three of five green neon icons, D-Hop Cardinals. Silver Club Level, Bailey's Happy Pats. Brian Robinson, Jr. No, Titan. Titan's Legend. Nice, Jalen Warren, Club Level, Rookie Blue for the Steelers to 99. Silver, Premier Level, Rookie, Traylon Berks for the Titans. I'm trying to see Barbie and Oppenheimer before the national. That's all I got to do. McBride to 99, Cardinals, Rookie, Jersey Auto. I got to see one Thursday night for sure. I think that has to happen. Juan Rodriguez. The Edge of Tomorrow is great. It's a really good movie. Premier Level, Purple, Zion Johnson for the Chargers. The what? 44 of 75, Edge of Tomorrow with, who's Emily Blunt is in that? And Tom Cruise, Concourse, Rookie, Silver, Cray, Walker Packers. Probably about 10 years old now. Maybe not quite. It sounds like I heard the title of Warner Bros. It's one of those, repeat the same day over and over. It's one of those. I haven't been talking about it. Okay. Yeah, it's really good though. Club Level, Rookie, Tray, Color, Bailey, Zap, Pats to 149, Zappé. And a 35, Jalen Tolbert, Rookie, Auto, Cowboys. The London. Yeah, that movie didn't look too bad. I just never watched it. Which movie? On the Edge with... Edge of Tomorrow, yeah. Edge of Tomorrow, yeah, they're good. Yeah, a lot of people haven't seen the movie. It looked good. It didn't get a ton of promotion when it came out. But critically and like, people like it and critically it's acclaimed. Like it's a good, it's like all the way around. It's full circle. Everybody likes it. It just never got like the wide. I don't know, I feel like it released right around that time where there were a lot of other movies that people wanted to see and it was not really pushed super hard. Concourse, Silver, Michael Pitt, and Virginia Colts. That could be it too. Yeah, sci-fi is a tough one to nail down with original concepts these days. I don't like Christopher Nolan or something. Like obviously if Christopher Nolan comes out with some big sci-fi, everyone's gonna go see it at this point. Kareem Hunt, Jersey for the Browns. Like after Inception, everybody was in on that. Yeah. Concourse, Ricky Silver, Jack Sandborn for the Bears. That was year. Silver Concourse, Ayuk for the Niners. I just watched the second Suicide Squad like the first time. It's so much better than the first one. I didn't see the first one. Premier level, Lion Green of 49, Hayden Hurst for the Bengals. Do the first Suicide Squad is like to me, it's unwatchable. Like it's terrible. That's what I've heard from a lot of people. Silver, Premier level Lawrence for the Jags. You do not need to see that movie whatsoever. That movie stinks.  That is one of, oh man. Silver, Field Level Watson for the Browns. John Cena's Peacemaker. Yeah. I need to at some point watch the series of him. They have an E-Field Max series of Peacemakers. Level Hurts, 99 Eagles. We've got a buddy who's big into it. 75, Ricky Otto, Calvin Austin, a third, Steelers. Dude, the first Suicide Squad is so terrible. Like it's, I don't know how a major studio decided that, but I guess you look at all the other DCEU movies and it all, it's all pretty... Equal. Sean would call it, it would be on the trash list. Sean made a trash list about movie studios. Silver Snapshots, Trevor Lawrence called Level Silver, Brian Burns, Panthers. I know the Mario movie was like, you either like it or you don't, but like it's what you would think from Mario. Everyone that I've talked to about it, like they say like, yeah, it's solid. Like it's a good like family movie. Yeah. Premier level, Rookie White. Kenyan Green taxes at 35. Concourse, Rookie Silver, Garrett Wilson for the Jets. How could you not like peaches, but peaches on? I haven't seen that. I haven't seen anything, dude. It's terrible. I love going to the movies and I've been in them. It's just Jack Black saying peaches for about a minute. You know, icons, Rookie Silver, Malik Willis, Titans. Well, I like it then. Yeah. Level Silver Marsh on a lot of more Saints. It got in the top 100 of the billboards. It literally did. I believe it. Concourse, Red, Rookie, Garrett Wilson for the Jets. Out of 99. Silver, Premier level, Rookie Davis, Price Niners. I hear most people say that they like like it. I haven't heard anyone dislike the Mario movie like that I've talked to you like in my like personal life. Right. The thing like groundbreaking, but you know, Village Jones to 199, Rookie Jersey, Out of the Bears. Like I'm not going to go out of my way to see it, but if it's on streaming, I will for sure watch that movie. That's the kind of movie that it is. It was on Xbox Marketplace, The Rent, that I thought about running it. I guess it'll be on a streaming service at some point later this year then. Like someone like Apple TV or like Prime or something will have it for like a month or something. Right. Rucker, Almond Ra, Nick Bosa, Club level tie dot at 25 Niners. Concourse Silver, Cameron Jordan for the Saints. All right. And let's check spots here. Only one break left tonight, 27 to go on Star Wars Sapphire number 10. All right, last one. I've never seen Game of Thrones. And like, I know people love it and everything, but I'm not a big TV show person whatsoever. All of TV shows. Like I just haven't seen, like dude, you can name like an acclaimed TV show and I just haven't seen it. And I just- Do you have Disney boss? I'm assuming? Yeah. Have you seen, have you watched the Daredevil series? No. That's actually really good. Tell me man, you can name anything that isn't like The Mandalorian or like a Star Wars spinoff. And I've seen, I think most of the newer Marvel ones, they're like, all right, but I just don't watch TV, man. Or even like series. The 75, Jordan Davis, Ricky Gersy out of Eagles, Eagle Birds. Has anyone seen Secret Invasion? Yeah. I think they're on episode like four or six. Silver Concourse 2 of the Dolphins. Have you seen it? Yeah. It's pretty good. Like the first episode was really good. Second episode was like, yeah. The episode was like, man. Silver Sensation Sticks bills. The fourth episode was like, okay, pretty good. Silver Fred Warner. Actually, I like their episodes pretty good. Yeah. I just, I don't know when in my life I'll ever have enough time and like attention span to put into Game of Thrones or something that has multiple like long seasons at this point, that's like hour long episodes. I just don't see it ever happening guys. It's like one Thornton of 199 Pats. I'm just like, my days off, I just have just, there's just stuff to do. Like there's just stuff. From your level, Silver Rookie, Kade York for the Browns. Yeah. I rewatched Glopie not too long ago, because I know season twos come out soon. Re-watching it, I really enjoyed it. I think the second time around. Light Blue Rookie premiere level is Daxon Hill for the Bengals, number to 99. Silver Concourse Rookie, Sam Howell Commanders. Yeah. WandaVision was solid. Concourse Silver, Tim Darmel Panthers. The final, the ending of it was kind of man, like the final like episode. I feel like they could have done better. But Loki was awesome. Loki was great. Dude, the first two episodes of WandaVision, I'm like, what am I watching? And then like by four or five, I'm like, oh, okay, this makes sense now. Tri-color Concourse, Tom Brady for the Bucks. Yeah, they had some like filler kind of stuff that wasn't quite as necessary. It could have been sped up, but I like, I was generally favorable about it. I don't, I don't watch TV to hate on TV. If I'm gonna watch a show, like I'm gonna do my best to enjoy it and like find the positives in it. Same. 249 Brady for the Bucks. But when I watch movies, I like, I'm very, I'm pretty faking it. Rookie premiere level Silver or Concourse Titans. I have higher expectations for like movies and films. Films. Call them films. The 75, Trevor Lawrence, Jersey Card Jags. Hey, there you go, FF. Concourse, Rookie, Silver, Lewis Seen for the Vikings. I watch some Marvel shows because like back when, like they were transitioning into new phase, like, oh, kind of cool. Now I've kind of like fallen out because the movies kind of just felt rushed at this point. Field Level Rookie's Silver is Lovoo for the Panthers. Well, I wonder if that's why they're like... Final XRC. Final XRC. Wide Receiver one. That's JSN, right? Yep. The Seahawks. Seahawks, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. Big congrats on that one. Nice. There you go, Seattle. Yep, Card 510, Wide Receiver one. Good, good, good stuff. I think, I want to say they're like making so many Marvel shows so they can take more time on movies, but I don't know. Silver, Sweet, Love, Rookie, Stonehouse for the Titans. Like I'm cool with things being shows. It gives you more time and like things to flesh out, like certain things you can't fit in in two hours. You can fit in six hours, you know? Tri-Color Cooper Cup to 75, Field Level for the Rams. Jalen Tolbert, 7 of 10, Gold Rookie Auto Cowboys. It's the checkered parallels on this for some reason. It's just, it's so busy that it doesn't, it can't pick up like the face or something or it can't. That's fair. A shovel focusing on it. And if there's like something in the background that I can see, I'll try to grab that instead sometimes. Conquest Maroon, Kurt Warner for the Cardinals. Like I could go manual focus and you could just have it in one spot where like if it's there, it's always there as a focus, but like, it doesn't work all the time. We're moving around a lot. Premier Level Silver is Deontay Johnson Steelers. Okay. Yeah, I'll have the C-Secret Evasion at some point. I will tell you, one thing I'm super excited about is the Ahsoka series. Oh, we only, it's coming out like probably like 50 days or something like that. Yeah, it's in September, right? I think in August. In August, okay, okay. Yeah. It seems very close. I will watch that. I'll watch every episode as soon as they drop, basically. Like the next day, I thought that the worst. Yeah, same. Looks really good. Can't believe we had that picket, dude. That's crazy. All right, XRCC, Seahawks, Widerseever 1, JSN. We also added quarterback five, Hinden Hooker, the Lions, Relics, Trevor Lawrence, Kareem Hunt, Jerry Judy, Christian McCaffrey, Jerry Judy, Roquan Smith, Otto's Gold, Jalen Tolbert, Jordan Davis, Phyllis Jones Jr., Calvin Austin III, Jalen Tolbert, Tray McBride, Tideye Moldy-Quillis, James Connor, Danny Gray, Jalen Tolbert, Otis Anderson. And then this is an interesting hit. An Orange Pulsar, which is a first off the line RPA in a hobby box, number nine out of 30. Big congrats to the Steelers. Surprise bonus hit, pretty much. That is awesome. Thanks again, everybody. Moving on to pin eight to one.


I'm just finishing up my undergrad at UWM in mechanical engineering. I was captain on the UWM sim team for two years. I got involved in the gate lab because I was interested in biomechanics and with something I was always interested on how I could be more efficient in the water. So then that led me into my research of how the human body moves on the ladder to try and make it safer. There's a lot of injuries with ladders so we're trying to reduce the injury rate and by making ladder climbing safer. It's important to look into ladder slips and falls because ladder injuries are really high and severe. So we want to find what climbing biomechanics increase recovery and what we can do to reduce the slipping.  The first ladder we studied ladder slips so are the ladder would induce a slip and then we would look into how we can fix certain foot placement and stepping and then the second ladder we tried to improve recovery and we looked into different glove conditions with high friction and low friction gloves and then we had people climb this ladder and when they didn't notice coming one of the rungs would drop out and they would cause them to fall but they were safe and not a safety harness and then we're looking into if the gloves really had an improvement or not and also what other climbing biomechanics we can do to improve recovery. My name is Erica Planner and I'm a Milwaukee engineer.


Live from Las Vegas, Nevada, it's the Cube at HP Discover 2014, brought to you by HP. Keynotes this afternoon, Meg Whitman was just on a panel with Thomas Friedman and Intel and Satya Nadella of Microsoft. Pretty interesting, I'm here with Jeff Frick to note how passionate Meg is about politics and government. Wow, I'm actually comfortable, I'd vote for her. Bobby Patrick is here, we've been drilling down into cloud all day. Bobby is the CMO of the HP cloud division, a lot of new announcements coming out, a lot of action in HP cloud. Bobby, welcome to the Cube. Yeah, thank you, it's great to be here. Yeah, good to see you. Yeah, good keynotes, it was a good refresher. A lot of these keynotes are just products pushing and pushing and pushing, we had some of that earlier, but I thought it was a good eye-opening, refreshing kind of discussion, so it was very worthwhile. But anyway, you're relatively new to HP, very new actually, so how's it going? It's great, it's exciting, I joined it at a great time for the company. We were gearing up for the big launch of our new brand, HP Helion, that was launched on May 7th, so just a little over a month ago, and we hit the market hard globally. It's a complete, pulled together of all of our products and services around cloud, under a single brand. Customers love it, and it's really reiterated our commitment to OpenStack, and it's great, HP announced a billion-dollar commitment to HP Helion over the next two years, so it's backed by some big funding, that's a great time to come in. So I saw that, help us unpack that billion-dollar, it's a big number, it's a popular number, even Warren Buffett, or I say Warren Buffett, he underwrote the whole thing, the March Madness, giving away a billion dollars for the perfect bracket, no longer a million does it, it's got to be a billion. So what is that billion, what does it go to, what does it comprise? It goes to R&D, we're the most active corporate sponsor behind OpenStack, which is the fastest growing open source project on the planet. We have more contributors, we have more team leads for the different projects, and so we're working with the community, we're hiring OpenStack experts, always looking for the best in the world, all around the world, and we're then hardening and curating it and making it commercial now with our support, and we believe it's the underpinning of the future of what we call hybrid cloud, the ability to put some of your information, some of your applications within an enterprise, some in a public cloud, some in different countries that matter for compliance reasons, and to be able to move around between those different clouds in a very easy fashion. So this money is going to that R&D, to the skills, and to truly a global launch. So when you think about the sort of messaging for HP Cloud, what do you want customers to think about in the Helion brand and the HP Cloud? Yeah, the number one thing is commitment to open standards. So we are, and if you heard Martin Fink today talk about HP Labs and their commitment to open source, we're all in on open source, we believe it's a way to deliver innovation faster, we can bring the market, new technologies faster to customers, so we're all into open source, we are committed to the projects that matter to the next 20 years of IT, and so that commitment has to be real though, we have to prove it, we have to say you know you can run our software on other hardware, we think it will have some optimal integrated solutions for you using our entire stack, but this is about eliminating vendor lock-in. It was just one of the biggest challenges that IT departments have faced in the last 20 years, and so I think the commitment behind the open is at the core of our messaging. So we should mention, so Martin Fink gave a, well I really liked his presentation. I have been saying for, I don't know now, four years that HP's got to get back to its roots, which are Invent, and I have not heard until today something that excited me about Invention, and we saw it today, now Invention is not easy, we all, we've talked about a lot that the previous administration cut, cut, cut for the bone, it takes a long time to turn that station, but we saw it today, Fink was put into that job for a very particular reason, I pointed out two things, one, it's a guy who's going to commercialize inventions into the marketplace, and two, there's going to be a heavy systems focus. So he basically showed a little lag on the machine, which eventually is probably going to be powering your clouds, but he also announced HP is going to put forth a new open-source operating system optimized for non-volatile memory, not only a blank sheet of paper that they're going to work on with universities, but also a Linux derivative, a stripped-down Linux derivative, and one for Android, that was exciting. Yeah, I think what's great also is the cloud business actually falls under Martin, so our entire business worldwide and our cloud effort, our R&D, our product development is all under Martin who runs our CTO of our HP Labs, and when you look at the problems he's addressing with the machine and what he's going after, it's going after the massive scale challenges of the internet, right, and the massive scale challenges of the cloud and the day-to-day luge that we're all facing within the internet of things, and so what's great is by being a part of the labs and being part of Martin's organization, we're injecting that thinking into our cloud, we're injecting it into our innovation, and you can see a roadmap here, right, you can see this whole new architecture. He talked about an architecture that's been in existence since 1950, it was called the Von Neumann architecture, all the way to now and with copper at the core, the world's in need of a new architecture, and so it's great to be a part of that. That was a cool talk, he talked about electrons, photons and ions, electrons compute photons communicate and ions store, and that in essence is the future direction of where HP is going with the machine, massive, massive memory, blowing away the volatility hierarchy, blowing away ultimately slow spinning disks using memory store as the platform for future systems. I love it. Yeah, and he mentioned also one thing that's close to my heart is the distributed mesh. You saw that distributed mesh where different hardware, software combinations sit at different points of the network and they work together, compute and data, and that's really hybrid cloud. Hybrid cloud is putting compute workloads in certain areas and having data stored and distributed for maximum availability and doing that with self-service and doing that in a way that IT organizations can scale effectively. Yeah, I think that as a marketing person you realize that customers want to know that you're relevant for their future, and as much as I love things like store wants, it's not the future of computing, it comes out of HP Labs. This potentially is, so that's got to have customers really excited. This is really the first time you've unveiled it massively on a public scale, maybe you're talking, and that's why I joined HP. I saw that coming out a few months ago and the new style of IT thinking where we're saying we're radically going to be at the core of helping IT transition from the old style very inward to a customer-centric style to one where you're delivering the consumer experience in the business world and I saw that with HP and it got me excited and I joined on board. Not upside. Yeah, the other part that Martin mentioned, I don't know if you have the power of HP Labs but leveraging open source as well, which is probably not a tool in the arsenal not that long ago to really bring the power of a large community who's engaged, you can attack specific problems and make that a core piece of the process. Yeah, but think about it. We've got thousands of the world's best developers, right? The millennial developers, these guys working all around the clock working on our core cloud future called OpenStack, contributing to that, including our experts, and then we're taking that and then bringing it to market and then providing that 24-7 support, testing and hardening it, doing the things we need to do to help an enterprise feel comfortable with that decision. You could never do that. We could never do that and deliver that kind of innovation on our own. We couldn't afford it. We wouldn't be able to deliver on it. These are the best minds of the world who are contributing to this and we're all in with OpenStack. So you talked about, we talked about what do you want the brand to stand for and you said open, no lock-in. Can open source innovation occur at a pace with somebody who's got full control of a stack? It's much faster actually. You watch the innovation of OpenStack.  We just had a four-year birthday of OpenStack already that's an entire cloud computing platform. You've got databases and service projects like Trove. You've got object storage projects like Swift and block storage like Cinder. All of these things are being worked on by people around the world. You could never deliver and so what's happening is the pace of innovation with an open source project like OpenStack is like a hockey stack. I think if we did this ourselves or anyone else you would never be able to deliver the kind of innovation that's coming to market now. We talked about some of the announcements, you guys. Why don't we actually go back a month and talk about Helion and then work through today. You've got some HBC announcements. You've got the network for Helion. So start with Helion. What's great about Helion is it really brought together a lot of great products and services in the cloud that already exist and it took OpenStack and it was our first foray to the market with an OpenStack distribution. And what's important actually is we have technology one called HP Cloud System that is actually the most popular cloud platform right now, private cloud platform on the planet. About almost 2,000 users right now. 2,000 companies, third of the Fortune 100 right now using that technology. So what it is is a proven capable platform used by big banks and others. We're injecting OpenStack into that so that you can over time scale that out with new applications. And so the launch really was about pulling all the pieces together, pulling our support and services together and saying to a customer with confidence here's our cloud portfolio and here's how we can take you on a journey at your pace and accelerate that journey to take advantage of that cloud portfolio and that was really the launch a month ago. Today, and it discover, I mean only a month later we've already done a number of great things. One is we brought out OpenStack, the commercial version so we've launched a community one. You can download it. There's been thousands of downloads already. The commercial version's coming out now and we announced pricing. And what we are all about here, this is really, really important, we are about accelerating the adoption of OpenStack throughout the enterprise. We're about breaking down the barriers that have inhibited the proliferation of this great technology. So one of those things today was the price point. We announced $1,400 per year per server, all in price point for HP, HP on OpenStack. And that's critical because this is a scale out product. You're going to have dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of these all around the world. And so the price point is it's disruptive, it's the lowest on the planet. And we said it's going to be simple and easy. We're not going to do all of this good, better, best packaging. It's super easy and that's a big part of today. The other part of today is we said, you know what, we're going to work with partners and we're going to deploy this all around the world. And that was the Helian Network Announcement along with AT&T and the British Telecom and Intel. And that's just huge for today. Now Helian comprises both on-premise and in the HP public cloud, correct? That's right. So talk about how that pricing works. I mean, I like what you're saying simple because cloud pricing is really complicated. Yeah, so we use, we're probably the largest user of OpenStack in production today without public cloud. So we use it and people can consume services from that and buy them on a, you know, as you go basis. But with OpenStack, what's really happening is people are able to deploy their own private clouds, right? They're able to, a service provider can deploy and build their own public cloud. So when I talk about the price point, I'm talking about a customer building their own cloud, building their own cloud in a third party data center or in one of HP's 82 data centers. And that price point is, you know, it's easy to use. You can predict it in your business model and feel comfortable about what it's going to cost, you know, two, three, four years out. And so, help me understand, let's unpack that a little bit. What am I getting for that $1,400 per user? So you get the entire, so this is what's amazing. You get the entire cloud operating system called OpenStack, right? You get all of the projects now that are part of the OpenStack build. You're getting an object story. It's, you know, Amazon S3, but in a box called Swift, right? With the Swift API. And you could build that and do that yourself now. You could do that in a way that controls, that gives you full control and full flexibility. You get databases as a service product. You get a compute engine. Swift, Cinder, Grizzly, everything. That's right, Nova for the compute. And so you get all of this in that box. All of this. And you can go deploy this and you can benefit now from the thousands of developers who are every six weeks putting out new code and innovating. So, okay. So all the new innovations will fall under that umbrella. That's right. And any price changes thereafter. You might choose to use, you might say I'm just building a cloud storage environment. You might choose to be heavy on Swift. That's what you're doing. But it is all inclusive. And you can use the entire cloud platform or you can build a storage platform or databases as a service platform. That's a different model clearly. What are customers telling you about that? Yeah, so they, well, they want, they want the control and the flexibility of having their own platform for security reasons, for compliance, they want to put their data in their own centers. But they're also saying, I want to use public cloud some too. And I like the idea that if OpenStack is here and OpenStack is here, right? Same code basis. I can fairly easily take a workload, take an application to go from here to here and back and forth. That kind of flexibility called interoperability. And that's what's coming down the road with OpenStack underneath is something that does not exist today and everybody wants. Make sure I understand. So I'm paying $1,400 per server for that OpenStack instance on-premise and then when I want to access public cloud services, I'm, I'm what? You're paying as, you might want to burst. You might want to just go do, you might have some peak demand.  And I would run that from HP, public cloud, right? Or partner hours. Yep. Excellent. Now you also had some HPC announcements. That's right. So there's a number, what's great is HP now is people are taking Healy on OpenStack and they're putting it in their products. So our HPC group, our high-performance computing group, said, hey, we want to have a self-service mechanism and we want to be able to scale out the architecture people want in that, in HPC. So they put OpenStack inside their solution and launch it today. And so it's, you know, OpenStack and better than HPC. Open, hybrid, simple to consume is what I'm here. That's right. That's right. And predictable. And predictable. All right, good. Dave, Lisa Murray wrote the book on this. So this is great. If you don't believe Bobby, Lisa came by, gave me the book. So it's the OpenStack technology breaking the enterprise barrier. So you've got it. It's one of the best reads on the planet right now. Yeah, excellent. All right. So when does it go to the next level? What is it? I'm just buying computer. Pardon? I'm just getting capacity. If you just want capacity, you might just build a storage cloud yourself or you might use our public cloud storage or with our Healy and Network, our partners around the world will be deploying OpenStack and you can buy it from them. Awesome. All right, we've got to leave it there, Bobby. Thanks so much for coming to theCUBE. It was a pleasure meeting you. Good time. Appreciate it. All right, keep it right there, everybody. John Furrier is in the house. He's back from San Francisco or San Jose. Good to have you back, John. Keep it right there. We're back with John Furrier just a moment.


Good morning, it's a couple days later and we are in the car now, just arriving at my friend Alex's house, who lives in Cambridge. She's an amazing photographer who I have been in touch with for like a couple years now. She gives me all the ins and outs on like the good Christmas chocolates. So like during Vlogmas, when I tried all the Christmas stuff, that was thanks to her. She even offered to send me some, which was so sweet, but we ended up just like buying them on Amazon. And she told me that the next time I was in town to hit her up and we could take photos she takes the most like beautiful ethereal photos and I'm like such a fan of her work. And she's just such a nice gal. So she was like, let's, you know, connect next time you're in town and she offered to take my photo today. And so we're on our way to pull into her place and we're so excited to like check out the surrounding area. I think we're gonna check out the town of Cambridge and we're gonna like do some charity shops and maybe get some lunch or something. And I've never really had my photo taken by such a like distinguished photographer. So I told her, I was like, is it okay that I'm like a toe and I don't know what I'm doing? She was like, absolutely. So, oh, they're sheep. They're sheep. Oh my God. They're so cute. Okay, let's go get our photo taken. Hi, hi Bungee, hi. We've made it to Alex's beautiful countryside cottage. It's literally the most insane, like it's all, if you've been watching the blogs, you know my obsession with escape to the country and it is just like all of that personified. I'm literally so excited. And this is her little film studio that she has in her backyard that she takes photos and it's got cute wallpapering. And here's the backdrop. Got a little couch. It is seriously so cute. There's dogs everywhere. I literally couldn't be happier. Hi. I've never seen one before. Oh my goodness. So cute. Oh, yes it is. And so is Bunty to be fair. I now can't help but be like, you know, I'm feeling it. Do you want to look at some? Yes, I would love to. I don't even know if it helps or hurts because I'm one of these people that's like, no, don't show me. Then just spin the wheel. People are good to me. Wow. Well, this is, you know, I haven't edited anything, but the light's great and you look great. Wow, thank you. Yeah, any of these I'd be more than happy with. Yes, absolutely. Thank you. It doesn't mean I'm finished. Yeah, how it's awesome. Amazing. I love it. Really cool experience. Did you like it? Mm-hmm. I loved it. It was really, really fun. It was a lot of fun. She was like very comforting, put us at ease. We're actually out and about in Cambridge right now and we stopped and got some lunch. I got some ravioli. Alex got a wrap. Jasmine got a full English and Alexa got a curry. So we're literally all like very, we have a lot of different cuisine going on here. Very different. And when you ask for still water, you get this with two ice cubes. Mine's still there. Yay! So good. The last time I checked in was at lunch, which was delicious by the way and we've just been wandering around filming some charity shop content or thrifting content, if you will, in Cambridge and just like bopping around town, looking at all the cute little shops. There's so many churches and it's so beautiful here. I would definitely recommend coming here if you were taking a trip to the UK. It's beautiful and it's about an hour outside of London. I think it's like an hour on the train. And yeah, it's very gorgeous. We're now heading back to the car. I think we're gonna go back to Alex's for a little bit and chill and then head home. And I can't believe tomorrow is our last day. That's literally crazy. Alex, can you believe that? She turned around and was like. I can't, I can't. It's literally crazy. It's like I'm ready to get back into my routine but also I never wanna leave at the same time. You know what I mean? What if I enter between like here because I'm not ready to say goodbye number one to the cold. Yeah. And also number two to the architecture. Like the fact that we have to go back to new buildings and 90 something degrees or maybe 80. We're gonna be 90 degrees. Okay, tour guide, give us the facts. This bridge used to be called or probably is still called the mathematical bridge. Okay. It was put together without any bolts or anything. So it just stood on its own. You could walk over it and it wouldn't collapse. It somehow the way the wood was slashed together, did it? What? And a university student some time ago wanted to figure out how it's done. So took it apart, couldn't figure it out and that's bolted back together. Oh, wow. We're back at Alex's now about to head out. Her boyfriend, Will is gonna take a Polaroid of us and I just don't wanna leave this like beautiful cottage of my dreams. Look at this. Look at how gorgeous this is. What more could you ever want? I'm gonna build a house in the corner of this backyard. I love it so much. All right, let's take a photo and head home. And... Oh. I did that to make us laugh. Alex, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Honestly, it was a really fun day. Good morning. It is our final last day in the UK.  We're doing all the things. We're filming all the content. I'm buying so much food, probably some clothes. I have ventured into new territory, like hoarder level packing. Like I do not know what I was thinking but anyways, we're gonna head into Primark now and do a little bit of shopping and I'm also gonna film a fitting room video which I'm so excited about. So let's go. All right, we made it to the mall. Stopped and got some Starbucks. I just got a decaf iced oat milk latte. And the next stop we're gonna make is into a Greg's because Drew and I have seen a TikTok that we love about this dad letting his daughter pick out what she wants for dinner at Greg's. And I've seen people talk about their sausage rolls and like I know too, probably people in the UK.  So we're gonna try it. If they have it, we'll see. But we're at Greg's in the mall. Very strange. Okay, Jasmine's getting a chicken bake. I'm gonna get a sausage roll. But they have like pizza and like bean and cheese. Oh, okay. Oh yeah, she looks good. Golden sausage roll. Here she is. Ooh, let's try it. It's so cute, like the sausage roll. I get it. It's a little bland. I won't lie. But it is, you know, England. I wish I could like dip it in something but let's put the sauce. Love the sauce. I'm gonna give it a solid 8.5 out of 10. Mm, that's pretty good. Mm-hmm, oh yeah, delicious, mm, good. We've stopped off for lunch at a pub. That was like on my bucket list while I was here. That was the one last thing that I wanted to check off or sorry, take off while I was here. So I ended up convincing them to stop at this pub. We wanna eat pot of pupna too. Yeah, I think it's called Warp Warp Blurs Warp Warp Warp. But this is a very special occasion because I'm actually trying my first British beer and I honestly can't remember what it was called. It was called the River Town, S-I-P-A. And it's vegan, it's fruity, crisp, contemporary. But it's an IPA and she said that that was better than a pilsner, so I don't know. But I'm gonna try it. It does feel cold, okay. I thought that, I had always heard that beers were warmer here, but this feels very cold. So okay, this is massive and I'm drinking alone. So Jasmine would not let me not order a beer. She was, well no, I just mean you were very, you're ordering a beer. You're ordering a beer. I started to say one, and she goes, and you're getting a beer. So anyway, cheers. To all of you. Okay. It's really good. It is really good. It's not as like, so I can tell that it's an IPA. I'm not a beer person or reviewer, but look on the sword. It's got a little bit of fruitiness to it. It's a little bit more like zingy, I guess, than like an American mid-gate, but pretty good. I would say at 8.9 out of 10. Oh, thank you. All right, now I was just reviewing my beer. It's really good so far. I ordered a fish and chips, and then Jasmine, as a sweetheart, ordered a steak and ale pie or something like that, so that we can share it. Oh no, it's fine. You look, oh yeah. She looks gorgeous. And Alexa got some kind of like chickpea hummus bowl that sounded really good too, so we'll see what it's like. But it's my first fish and chips, because the last time I was here, I wasn't eating meat, and I only had the chips. But so far, so good. If this were my lunch, I would also be happy. All right, food has arrived. I got my fish and chips, obviously. Got mushy peas, because you have to. I also got tartar sauce and ketchup. And then here is the pie, and it comes, oh my gosh, the tartar. Oh my gosh. And then Alexa's looks really good, and it comes in a little pot. Yeah, it's very fancy. I'm trying my first fish and chips. I hope you didn't have a lost time. You did? No, I didn't eat fish. No, I had chips, but no fish. Okay, here I go. Yeah. I don't even like this, and that is. In my fish and chips era, your fries look amazing. Uh-uh. Oh, she's going for what? Go, go. I'm gonna go for one too. I do think that the photos that we saw when we were in Brighton last time, and there were photos of fish and chips in mushy peas, mushy or mushy? Mushy peas? Mushy peas, yeah. When we were down by the beach, they were like bright green.  They're not for everybody. Not bad, definitely not bad. Oh, there's like mint in it. Ew. Interesting. I don't mind it, honestly. Like, it's not my favorite. I probably wouldn't like go out of my way to order it, but I think I'm gonna try to eat it. It's like actually kind of good. I feel British already. All right, it's a little while later. Just got home, and I thought I would show you a little pry mark haul, because we did go to a pry mark today in the mall, and it was so much fun. And I did get a couple things, so I thought I would show you the first being, these are so cute. Here's a little sneak peek to the main channel video, I think, or maybe the main channel video might already be up. But anyways, got some green jeans. Who could want more?  I love that. I got this cute brown shirt. Oh yeah, these were, how much? Oh, it doesn't say. I think they're like 10 pounds, honestly. Very cheap. And then I got this brown shirt. This was seven pounds, and it's got like the cute sort of like exposed hems. I've actually been looking for a shirt like this for a while. And then I got a Mickey Mouse crew neck. How cute is that? This is gonna be perfect for Disneyland. And this was 12 pounds. That's just so cheap. And it's like slightly cropped and it's kind of boxy. And I honestly just kind of wanted to wear this because it's like unique and different from what they actually have at the, like all of the shops and at the parks and stuff. And then I got this. Oh, I thought it was the same. It's not. I got this cute little like tie up top and it has these like sort of flared sleeves. And this was 10 pounds. I'm like, look how cute that is. So that's my primer, Paul. I also got some food and snacks to give to Drew to like bring home for Drew. And I also have a ton of stuff with us. Jasmine and I are gonna film our like trying British candy slash American candy video. So that's pretty much gonna do it for us. We're almost packed up in here. We have a lot of content to film tonight and it's quite literally 740 PM. I don't know what I'm gonna do with myself.  I need to check on that. But anyways, I think that's gonna do it for these vlogs. I think I'm gonna end it here because I have so much to do tonight. And I really just wanna like get to the airport, not worry about it, not stress at all. So that's gonna end it. I hope you enjoyed. I'll say goodbye with the girlies. Girlies, our time has come to an end, but we will be back on my face. We'll see her very soon. She's just overwhelmed with emotion that we're leaving, honestly. She's just getting a little, little sticky poo. So anyway, thank you for watching and we will see you very soon in the next vlog, bye. What's funny? I will be rewatching this. Bye.


and until today check how many years actually we are in 2019 almost 2020 and the water is still and well until today that's why we will be holding the water of Jesus


On wen, our first item—of business today is time for reflection—and our time for reflection leader—is Lynn Paterson, the director of Tyrfond Scotland. Presiding Officer, and members of the Scottish Parliament, thanks for the opportunity to address you briefly this afternoon. As a Christian international development organisation, Tyrfond sits in an interesting place between the world of international development, and the world of the church. As members of the disaster's y Comité y Merdyn Cymru, a tutul dyfodillwn i gynhwysgwyllus cyfarchiadau cyfoliwyr, dasgwynt hwnnw na lwyddo hwnnw, a gyd-rwyng iawn i gyrdwyr i drefwyntur wlad, ac mae cair diningudau rydyn ni pan fyddai more wlawer i dal y proliad a chael nhw'n ddyn nhw. Ystod dweud hynny i ddweud ar gwyn y cyfarchiadwyr yn gyrroedd yr ddiadau aeth anise ond yn ei gwybodaeth i'r olygu'r ffordd, ond mae'r ffordd yn gyllidau i gwybodaeth bywau a a'r transformatio yn gweithio'r cyfnodd. That's why we understand the route of poverty to be about broken relationships between ourselves and God, with each other, with our own selves and with the planet that God has given us. We design our programmes with this in mind, seeking to bestow dignity as people understand and fulfil their God-given potential, helping communities to work together to identify and address their needs empowering them to advocate with local governments and training them on how to protect the environment. Wherever possible, we do this in partnership with local churches. This makes good development sense because the churches are right at the heart of so many of the poor communities where a tier fund works. Filled with a host of willing volunteers who are motivated by their faith in Jesus, local Christians are keen not just to help the poor, but they are the poor. We work with our partners, often large church denominations, helping them to help their own churches understand their biblical mandate to love their neighbour in practical ways. We equip them to deliver a whole range of development initiatives, ranging from livelihood training and better farming techniques to prevention of HIV and gender-based violence. As Christians, we and tier funds, along with our thousands of supporters in Scotland and our global partners around the world, we believe in the power of prayer. Development interventions will take us so far, but we believe that lasting transformation and peace in our world will require the intervention of our powerful and loving gods. Our prayer is that by working in partnership with the local church, the needs of the whole person can be met body, soul and spirit, and that these broken relationships that we see at the heart of poverty can be healed.


Today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Marit Smith from Alfa Men Resources. How are you today, Marit? I'm very well, Tracy. Thank you very much for the opportunity. You know, Marit, you put out some substantial news recently, and I think we should start there just before we start this interview. I asked you to provide with me the most compelling point you would like me to make in this interview, and your answer was amazing. Why don't we just start there? What do you think is the most compelling reason that investors need to be placing Alfa Men on their radar? Tracy, we are a peer-to-peer producer, and in the last quarter, as per our guidance, we expect to have generated $34 million in EBITDA. Now, that was at a 10-price, 10% to 15% lower than where we are at the moment. We are a very high-margined producer in the excess of 50% margins. We are a peer-to-peer producer, and I think very significant from the announcement is our efforts in increasing our production down the line and certainly increasing our resource base. We have successfully commissioned a fine-tuned recovery plant, which we expect to increase our production by 5% to 10% down the line, and very importantly, we are progressing well in terms of our various drilling campaigns, the objective of which is to increase our resource base substantially from a life-of-mind perspective, but even more important, provide us with the ability to potentially double our production in the not-too-distant future. And of course, TIN is a critical material. It's required for our technology sector. And let's go back here to in your most recent update that you just referenced about the fine-tuned recovery plant fully commissioned and producing. You referenced this in your last question, but take us through that a little bit and give us a real update on what's happening with that, please. So Tracy, we had announced around quarter three last year that we will be building a separate fine-tuned recovery plant for less than five million US dollars. We are embarked upon this project with the objective of recovering additional TIN contained in our tails from our current main processing facility. And now, less than nine months later, we have fully commissioned the plant for around five million US dollars. We expect between five and 10% more TIN to be recovered as a consequence. And at the current TIN prices, you can imagine a very short payback period with regards to this new plant. So for us, it's very important to chip away at continuous improvements, additional output and lower unit costs. You also commented in your recent news release that your net debt has been reduced to 29.9 million. Would you like to comment on this? Well, I think that's very relevant, Tracy. Just over a year ago, our net debt position was sitting at around 100 million US dollars. We are now down to just below 30 million US dollars. And at the current TIN price and considering our current production levels, we would expect the debt to be extinguished, hopefully in this calendar year. In addition, of course, to working on production and reducing your debt significantly, you've also made some very aggressive drilling announcements. Would you like to update us on that, please? Tracy, in our opinion, this is a very, very critical aspect to our business, being drilling up additional resources at Alphabet. Our current license area is extremely prospective. We know that our current producing mine extends at depth. And we will be drilling that up to prove additional resources. You may or may not be aware that the original drilling campaign five years ago ended with a 16-meter intersection at 22% TIN. So we certainly expect more TIN at depth, and we will be drilling along those lines. Secondly, we have a deposit right next door to our current mine, and we have announced to the market a number of drilling results from our drilling campaign on that deposit. And I do think that the market is probably appreciating that we are starting to delineate a potential ore body, which may, in our opinion, be our second mine. And then very relevant, further down south on our license area, we have a number of further prospective targets, which we will also commence drilling in this calendar year. So really, Tracy, overall, we currently have one producing mine. We have a vision of becoming one of the largest long-life TIN producers in the world. And we may very well see a second, third, and hopefully a fourth mine within our license area in the medium term. Well, you heard it here on Investor Intel. Please join us when your next drilling results come out. Please, Moritz. Thank you so much for joining us. Moritz Smith from Alphabet Resources. Thank you, Tracy.


Hello everyone, welcome to our annual meeting 2020. Like all things in 2020, this does not look like it usually would. We usually have it in May and we invite the public into our space. But we kept kicking it down the road a month after a month, hoping that we would have the spigot turned up enough to. Allow for perhaps an open house on the green and rolling out our lovely new quarters. But at this point, given that there are not many pages left in the calendar, we determined we best better just have a remote annual meeting 2020.  Rob Chapman. Yeah, I do believe he will be presenting staff and Orca's past, present and future. Enjoy all. All right. Thanks Mike. So, before I go to my presentation and switch over to sharing my screen. Why don't we do the staff introductions first? So, we have at here at Orca three full time staff at the moment of which I am one. And for those of you who don't know, I have been working as of November 1st for nine years for Orca media. Wow. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. I have a long history and background in community media. I think I started in 1992 as a production technician at the public access station in Burlington. I was called channel 15 at the time. And then for a number of years, I was running my first job as a director was an access center in Monrovia, California. So, in 97, I moved out there and got my first taste of being the executive director. And then in 2000, I was offered a job to come back to Burlington and take channel 15 and set up a nonprofit. Which we turned into Vermont community access media, which I ran for 10 years. And then in 2011, you guys were so kind as to hire me to come the executive director of Orca media. And I've been doing it every since it's been wonderful. It's great community. I enjoy being here and having my family be raised. My daughters are now almost out of school. Well, one of them is out of school and colleges. And the other one is now a junior MHS. And it's been a wonderful experience getting to know more pillar and central Vermont. And again, I was born and raised. Well, I wasn't born, but I was raised in stow. So coming back to the mountains after having so many years in the valley has been wonderful. So that's my background. We also have with us our production manager, Zach Zorn. Zach, you want to say a few things about your background? And I think we had a question. Yeah, the lovely cinder block wall you have back there. Well, I grew up in Montpelier. I did internships in video production. I went to London State College and got my degree in television production. Then I worked in a bay area at the cable access station there for about five years before starting here at Orca. I think it's been five years. Yeah, it's been five years. Is it? Yeah. And I'm wearing my mask because I'm in the office still. So we wear our masks and we've been cleaning a lot. And so a little bit about my job. Is anything that's related to equipment or the software, basically, is what I'm in charge of. So a lot of what I do is work with the access producer, the people off the street that come in. I just help them with the technical side of delivering their message they want to do. And different people have different things that they feel is important to them. So I don't say my opinion or anything, but just focus on the technical side. The other thing is or a lot of what we do is the municipal meetings and school boards and state house coverage. So for that, I have assistant editors. So I sort of damage them and delegate out which people work on which projects and then go over to make sure that's all working good and getting through. So there's a lot of media management. And then the studio shoots usually schedule people for the studio. And most of those I'll do and it's a lot of communication with the access users. So a lot of emailing back and forth and being on the phone and and helping them. I think that's it. That's enough that you do. I guess we've been doing with covid stuff is because all of these meetings are on on the wall. So instead of sending a camera operator capture them, we just capture them do a screen recording.  What is this a screen recording? Great. Thanks, Zach. And then we have with us our content manager. Her name is Jen on. She is coming up on almost 2 years being employed at work media. So. Jen, tell us a little bit about yourself. Oh, can you hear me? OK, so I am the content manager. I was I was raised in California and did most of my time there. And I come from a non-profit background doing data and information systems for a special ed group in California. So I am happy with data and the content management manager job fits in well with that. So what I do here is I manage the content. I make sure it's up on YouTube, that it's up on our website and it gets scheduled on our channels and make sure that the meta is formatted so that we can look at the data and see, you know, what trends we might be doing in terms of meetings or how much content we might. So I guess that's about it and I do whatever techniques might need to be done. So if there's network issues, I can take a look at that. If there's computer issues, I can take a look at that. And it's been primarily serving as backup for some of the technical stuff that Zach might need or Rob might need. And I guess that's it. So, thank you, Jen. So now I've got a PowerPoint presentation. I'm going to try to share my screen. So let's see if this works. We can get the tech working. Let's try that again. Okay, how's that look? Are you seeing my screen guys? It's astounding. Looks good. So this is the annual meeting from October 27 staff and board. We've just gone through my staff. So here again is Rob Chapman is executive director. Zach Zorn is the production manager and Jen on as our content manager. And then as the board members, we have Mike, a body as the chair. And Carlos Diaz is our secretary Michael Doyle who's not with us tonight is our treasurer. And we have also Susan Betman, David Connor, Rachel Feldman and CJ Stump. And we'll get a chance at the end of this annual meeting for them to talk and tell us a little bit about themselves and how much they love Oracle. We'll go through this PowerPoint presentation. So as Michael talked about what we working on is sort of like going through the past. So this is the actual annual meeting for the 2019. So the finances are looking at the 29 financials. So just quickly go over some of the revenue. Just over $350,000 we get from Comcast from cable operating. That's 5% of their gross receipts on cable services. Some of you may not know this, but we do not get any income from their cable cable motive service from their motor or internet services. It's strictly their cable services. And then the capital is a money that also comes. We get 0.9% of their gross revenue for equipment and other capital expenditures. We brought in 2019 36, $3,680 in production and duplication revenue. Most of that is production from municipal towns who are actually paying for additional meetings beyond their select board or their school board. So if they have planning commissions or designer view or any other meeting that they might want covered, we charge for that. We also charge for streaming services. So if an event is being streamed by somebody, somebody might ask us to cover an event. We've done like the co-op annual meeting. They pay for the streaming services that we are included with that. We also got $550 in donations. We made about just over $5500 in interest. And then last year we also got a one-time sum from a Comcast settlement, which I'll talk a little bit later in this presentation for a total of almost $450,000 as our animal budget. And then on the expensive side, we get almost $270,000 goes into covering staff and compensation that includes the salaries that includes workers' compensation, health insurance and everything that's associated with having people man the facilities. We do have almost $7000 in consultants and services. This is basically lawyers fees, accountants and anything like that. Office expenses and insurance have lumped into one thing, which is almost $15,000. That's business insurance. If we need any copy office supplies or anything, you know, some of that actually, you know, well, that's not 2019, but in 2020, things that are helping with COVID protocols are also included in that. And then our utilities from 2019 are just over $11,000. A lot of that was electricity. And then telephone and internet are probably the two things that are included in that. In 2019, we spent a little over $8,000 in travel and mileage. This pays for, if any of my staff goes to a conference that's included in that as well as if any camera operator is using their vehicle to get to a meeting or to something they have to take. Ms. Elenia's expenditures are just over $7000. And then the equipment in capital is $70,000. That does include our rent. So we do capitalize our rent as well as cameras, any tech supplies we might need for just over just about just over $387 in expenses. So we were really conscious of keeping our budget low. It looks like a big difference, but if you take out that Comcast settlement of $23,000, then you'll see there's probably about half of a, you know, about that same amount that we saved in keeping our eye on the budget and trying to save some costs. So that's the finances for 2019. And then we have some data on our programming and equipment usage. So programming numbers. In 2019, we had 1253 different pieces of content that were created for Oregon media by local producers and buyers ourselves, as well as 19 PSAs and bumper short form stuff. And then we also, if you were watching the channel, you saw 933 pieces of content that were imported from other Vermont sources. This is basically through the Vermont media exchange. Other access centers across the state will put content or videos that they feel people might be interested in and we download them and play them on the channel. And then about 161 pieces of content from outside of Vermont. And then equipment usage. In 2019, we had 139 checkouts of equipment. This does not include staff. This is just access users who are grabbing our equipment and taking it out for their own productions. And then we also had a number for studio usage of 262 people times that producers use our studio to produce stuff. There are a number of different shows that use the studio vote for Vermont. All things LGBTQ are some of our regular shows that come in regularly produce a half an hour. And of course, that's all for 2019 so that doesn't reflect any downtime from 2020 COVID response. In 2019, there was also the Comcast settlement and this was the state of Vermont issued Comcast certificate of public good. Some of the terms they did not like and so they decided to bring to sue the state of Vermont and federal court. And the Vermont access network was able to join in that suit to defend a lot of the stuff in the certificate of public good or CPG had to do with access funding and access use of capacity. So we decided to join in that. And then as the suit proceeded, we got to a point where the judge says that you need to go into settlement talks. So last summer, committee of van that was working on the on the on the CPG got into a room with Comcast and the state of Vermont and banged out a settlement and we were actually able to get to a settlement agreement. And some of the things that we were came out of that settlement agreement included. Finally, we got access to the interactive program guide, which is something that they've run access network has been fighting for many years to get access to this is if you have cable. This is the program guide you look and it before none of our shows were in that program guide it would just lists or Comedia public access or something like that. And we felt it was necessary in order to be at a level of the other content providers to have our content listed on that. We do have to pay for that it's $100 a month for each channel so we are absorbing that cost. But we were able to get to a point where we have access to that. The way we got to that was we had to all take new channel numbers. And so at the beginning of this year, our channel numbers moved from 1516 and 17 to 1075, 1085 and 1095 so been working to try to get people to recognize that we are now in a different place on their channel lineup. And the help that the settlement also included money for rebranding, as well as to offset some of the costs for remote origination which is basically the ability to go live from places in the community. This is something that the state of Vermont has always included in their CPG and how to facilitate that had become very cost prohibitive in Comcast eyes using fiber. So many access centers have been switching to IP based delivery for remote origination and we still wanted Comcast to support that so we got to a number that they would agree to pay in support of that. And that's what the number you saw earlier in the financials. And then we also got the activation of a statewide high definition channel that is to be shared by the Vermont access network across the state and access centers and I'll get to that a little bit later in the presentation. And then one of some of the big things we happened is we got to talking about how to save money and one of the things we came up with was in a move so we started exploring the possibility of a move to Vermont College of Fine Arts campus. And we found them to be enthusiastic and we're looking forward to being a great partner. So we were able to negotiate a lease and in the beginning of 2020, just before the pandemic hit, we were able to move our facilities up here to 62 Ridge Street at the college campus. And so just to show you a little bit of what it looks like I know that some of you haven't actually been able to come here. So we've got some pictures showing so this of course is the chapel and administration building at the college. And we have a lovely shot of the green, which is enjoyable to be able to go and we have plenty of parking out now up there. We used to have to park on the city streets, meter streets, but now we have plenty of parking. This is the actual building that we are in the Stone Science Hall. This is some of the office space. This is my staff's office and they are busy to work. There's a nice product placement in this picture where you can see the Clorax wipes in the foreground, knowing that we are COVID savvy here at Orca Media. Here's our nice sofa and lounge area with the Orca stuffed whale and some Halloween candy in the shot. Our equipment room. We're trying to organize the opportunity to move. I gave us the opportunity to sort of go through some of our equipment, inventory it and improve it and get rid of the things that we don't use. So I have made a number of trips to the electronics depot and very and getting rid of some things that are 15, 20 years old. So we're trying to keep it neat and clean and utilize our edit suites. This is Jerome at one of our edit suites. We now have four edit suites. We just recently purchased a computer for the fourth edit suites and we are now fully operational with full for edit suites for anybody who wants to come in and use them. And we have our nice studio across the hall. This is what it looks like when it's decked out with cameras and the desk. It's a little bit more space than our studio down at 89 Main Street. So that's a plus to have a little bit more elbow room storage for set pieces and stuff like that. As we said, we were here for about two weeks before we all went home on remote. So we've been hearing up this summer with some shoots and we're getting back into utilizing the studio. We also have some hope in doing some new sets. We've been working on some designs to create some standard sets for it. So we hope to be able to have that for you soon. We won't say more than that. We just want to take it a little very nice. And we hope that you will enjoy it when you do get to see it on your screen. And then this is just a shot looking into the edit. Now it's the play out thing. I had a nice reflection in the window of the college. So that was my last shot that I thought just to tie the both in together and one thing. Now we get into the COVID response. You know, in 2020, we are the world has been dealing with the media as well as the rest of the world was met with a challenging challenging situation. In I think the middle of March when the governor said shelter at home, we all worked diligently to come up with a plan for working remotely. We were able to keep the full time staff on. So Zach was working editing from home. Jin set up the remote ability to run the computers here. And then after I went through a quarantine section, I actually was up here working in my office by myself for most of April and May. And then in June, the end of June, I think Zach started coming back and we started trying to open up the studio again. So we've been doing working on our COVID protocols, keeping it safe and keeping it responsible. We also had to adapt to the virtual meetings as we taught is Zach talked about. We don't send camera many camera operators out into the field anymore. Most of it is just working at a computer capturing a meeting, a zoom meeting or whatever platform they're using and getting that turned around and on the channel. One of the big things that work has been able to help is the governor's press conference, which began at COVID. So we've been able to stream those basically from I think we were in the into April when we started that. It's been really popular. It's raised the exposure of organ media mainstream media is now using our feed feed. We get a shout out from Vermont Public Radio when we do the stream. It came about because part of the problems with the mainstream media is that they would cut after a certain time or it doesn't do that. We're there for the whole time. The governor's been very of the governor's office and administration has been very appreciative and there are very many of our monitor appreciative and tune in. And we've seen our YouTube numbers go up drastically. Because of it. So we're benefiting from people's exposure and knowing that we're providing an important service to Vermonters in this COVID time. So that's been something that we've done. And then we get into the new statewide community media channel. So as I said from the settlement, Comcast agreed to give us a statewide channel. So it's been newly dubbed the Vermont Community Television. It's envisioned as a showcase for the best content from access centers across the state. And it'll be managed by the Vermont Access Network. And Orca media media is uniquely positioned as an important content provider because of the fact that the state house is in our footprint. Obviously it's a statewide channel. So we're developing programming guidelines for what that means. And one of the prevailing ideas is that obviously the content has has to be a statewide interest. And many things coming out of Montpelier are statewide interest. So I chair the committee for that statewide channel. And we're shepherding it forward. It's due to come right up on December 8th on channel 1070 on your channel lineup. So keep an eye out for it. It should be coming very soon. And we're working, as I said, on branding elements. We finally came up with a name. It was not an easy process to come up with a name, but we finally settled on Vermont Community Television. So as I said, look forward on channel 1070. Some other things that we've been trying to do is to expand our footprint. We are have begun working as the board has always said, you know, how do we better serve the communities that are not in Montpelier or comedies based in Montpelier. We also serve 14 other towns, including some larger population centers, which include Randolph and Waterbury. So we've identified those two communities as places that we'd like to get a better footprint in. And part of the way we're doing that is to work with the libraries. So we have been talking with the Kimball library and Randolph, as well as the Waterbury library and staff about such things as producing their own content. And developing protocols to be able to put equipment there for the members of the public to be able to take out and produce their content. There's some logistics that still need to be worked out. And this was something that we were working on before the pandemic hit. So we put, you know, we obviously had to put a hold on it while we dealt with the pandemic. Starting up again, we recently delivered some equipment to the Kimball library and the staff there and are trying to help them produce their own content. And then after we get that settled up in there, familiar with it, then they'll have the ability to train and answer questions technically for citizens who may come into their libraries and take out the equipment. We still have some logistics. We have a memorandum of understanding we're trying to work out. We're working out how do we move the content from the places using the internet. But those are all things that are assumed to be minor obstacles that we're trying to work with. And the staff at the library has just been great. They're very enthusiastic and it'll be a great partnership. We're literally looking forward to it. Then I have just an important quote that I wanted to say. This is from Lauren Glen Davidian, which says the pie chart is going to look different than it does today. This is in reference to funding the public access and community media centers throughout the state. Van, the Vermont access network, which is the coalition of access centers across the state has been working with action circles, which is a lobbyist firm here in Montpelier and trying to work with the legislature to find other funding sources. As you can see from the financials, we get most of our money from cable revenue, which is that a certain percentage of your cable bill comes to Orca media. But cable is revenues reducing as more people will get their video content from streaming services. We don't get a piece of Netflix or Hulu or any of those streaming services. Could we? So one of the major pushes has been to hire a consultant to look at what within the regulatory structure are possible revenue sources to sustain community media into the future. And as Lauren Glenn says, that that high revenue, which is so weighted to cable revenue is going to have to change. And so that's what Van has been working on. And it's been well received in the legislature and they did approve $100,000 from the study. It's now out for RFP. And they're looking at trying to get somebody in to work on that study, which should go through or should be delivered to think the legislature. So just lastly, I wanted everybody to remember that community media plays an important role in our democracy. And we must work to sustain as telecommunication industry evolves. So that's sort of what we're working on in the future is just how do we sustain? How do we make it to continue into the future with a revenue stream that's changing or dwindling? So that's that's my presentation. That's my thanks. Here's a nice picture of the mountains to help get through the rest of this meeting. And here's our contact information. So thank you. That's my presentation. I will stop sharing my screen now. All right. Are we back screens gone? Yes. So it's the last thing we wanted to do is just to sort of introduce the board members who are here. Mike, a body as our chair, Mike, do you want to say a few things? Sure. And maybe I'll just do a handoff and each board member can do a handoff. Yeah. Hi, I'm like a body. I grew up in St. Johnsbury and left Vermont for well, I went to Rhode Island for a bunch of years. And then the East Bay in California, Oakland area and returned to Vermont in 2005 and got involved with Orca. I've been a board member since I think oh eight and I've had a couple of shows that have been a real blast to produce. They are time intensive and I just want to tip my hat to producers who are dedicated and do weekly and monthly shows because I experienced how much time it takes. And it's much appreciated that people are dedicated to getting their voices out. So I'm most looking forward to actually really being able to showcase our new space and strengthen the relationship with Vermont College of Fine Arts. I mean, I really envision using that green for maybe concerts, talks. It's just such a wonderful space. And yeah, we are doing a very slow roll out of our new space thanks to COVID, but it's allowing us to be thoughtful. So that's always good. Actually, I think I will. So at our last board meeting, we dubbed John Block a board member emeritus and he is really the heart, soul memory, institutional memory of Orca media.  Okay, I'm using my mic. Okay. Well, it's great to meet even if it's virtual. I've been involved with Orca for a number of years, more than I can count anymore. But I see the one of the areas that that I want to investigate how we can link up with the fiber districts. There are three in the area that we serve. Taking it off. Okay. So those fiber districts are just emerging and if the. Both federal elections and state. Go in the right direction, they'll be putting money into that because in their go to card for the virtual schools have forced to be run because of COVID. But it has much more of relevance to us because. Question becomes, how do we get our content over there? And all of the content that's so interesting that we're generating with our local producers. So that's what I want to focus on as well as ensuring that Orca continues and thrives in all of the districts. And I particularly want to also work on the Waterbury representative issue. But that's another topic for another day. So with this, I'll turn the mic over. Who's left in that the lineup there. Dave. Sure. I'm a flat lander that came here on sabbatical with my wife in 1989 and fell in love with the area. And then came back. She got a job at Vermont college and had her office right up there where you guys have your offices now. I'm a long time. I was a Catholic chaplain at Cornell and I'm a sort of defrocked priest who became involved in the Memorial Family Center and then became director. And I'm always out in front of the post office every Friday with peace signs still advocating for peace in the world. I have a great love of all media. I won a couple of times was trying to save GDR from going under it. Moments of crisis with that and John block turned me on to the importance of Orca. And so I've always had a fondness for that. And I'm on the board because I think there are that's one of the ways that right now we're realizing how important the community being able to build with a combination of public access television social media and ways for people to meet and discuss all the issues of the day. I'm a great believer that this is really the place where communities get built. I don't need to say any more than that except that I'm a little bit weird. But they seem to make room for me on this board and don't object to my sometimes getting up in a soapbox and preaching some kind of rant about everything from government to Trump to other issues of human and immigrant rights. You'll once in a while see me marching. Great to pass it on. Why don't I give it to CJ. Thank you. I'm CJ Stumpf. I have on Orcas board because I think its mission is vital. The ability of a community to have access to. A channel medium. That's both cable and online. Is I think critical to our ability to speak on issues of importance and. When things are peaceful and good then that may not be as much critical as a privilege. But when things are maybe. Starting to get. More critical and maybe speeches a little less easy to come by. A channel like orca I think is essential to our democracy. So I'm here because I believe in the mission John Block and I were serving on the East C fiber board together and he recruited me in. My background. Is. Pretty heavy duty business I did software development I became. Both the chief information officer and the chief technology officer and. The VP of business operations and business process and business development. For Fortune 50 and Fortune. And global 500 companies building fiber networks and. As well as startups little startups backed by. You know. BC companies in the West Coast that got bought by bigger companies. So my other passion and I'm looking forward to working with John some more. Is. Responsible cost effective development of fiber networks that actually stay. On schedule and on budget and I did that for big companies and startups and. So I think what John is going to be doing as our emeritus. Board member is also just critical to our communities our economy and sort of our mental health and our ability to. Connect with each other especially right now. Great thank you CJ. So you want to go next.  She may. Even muted. Somebody. Yeah. Go ahead and try talking to him. Okay I was. Born in in New York. And. After college I joined the bread and puppet theater in New York and. Moved with them to Vermont. I worked with them full time for a few years and then. Started my own company dragon dance. And. Helped run that for 25 years and so. Mostly did a lot of. Counterculture and alternative culture. Occupations. I started doing video because. It was hard to. Keep any record of live performance. And. I started training with with orca. Back when it was. Adelphia up on the hill where blue cross blue shield is now. And. Had done. Produced a bunch of different videos and a couple of films. With the help of orca. Became a member. To two or three years ago. Invited by Rob. I've been a camera operator for a few years. And I like that a lot and. I've just produced another short film. About. Middlesex. Woodcutter. And his work on the land. In various seasons. So I think. That's it. And. Handed over to Carlos. Carlos says his mic isn't working. Do you want to just try it? Carlos and see. I'm turning you on. You're on mute. Do you want to just try. Hello. Hello. Yeah, we can hear you. Not bad. Not bad. Coming in. We can hear you. Hello. If it's Mike's not working with his headphones. Carlos, we can hear you if you want to, if you want to talk. We can hear you. Carlos, we can hear you if you want to, if you want to talk. Rob, try typing into the chat window. He'll be able to read it there that we can hear him even if he can't read it. Can't hear us. I'll read Carlos did put in the chat. I teach filmmaking and have been involved with Orca in one form or another for about seven years. I love our mission. What we do and what we stand for. Hmm. Well said. I guess that comes to the end of all our board members that are on the call. I think we come to the end of the agenda for the annual meeting. I don't know, Mike, if you have any final words or thoughts, you want to. Oh, well, well, just shout out to Mike Doyle, our treasure and Rachel Feldman. Also a board member who couldn't be with us tonight, but Rob, that was really comprehensive. It was nice. I sort of knew all the pieces there, but it's really nice to get all that information about Orca's recent past trials and tribulations through COVID and what we're planning for our future. So that was just really nice to have in a comprehensive format. And I thank you for that. Mike, did you already address our other emeritus board member? Because he served so long, both in the Senate and here. You know, when I introduced Mr. Block as our freshly minted board member emeritus. Thank you so much, CJ. I neglected to mention Bill Doyle, who's who's decades of service in the in the state house, as well as being an advocate for democracy and media democracy through Orca media is, you know, the stuff of legend. And he accepted our board member emeritus position, I believe, a couple of years ago. And Bill, if you're watching, thank you for all your service. You're irreplaceable. And we're just we're just thrilled that you gave us those years of service to strengthen Orca's mission. And I do believe you will hold the, if it's not the Vermont, it could in fact be an international record for continuous episodes of a show. I don't know, Rob, if we have a count on. I know it's north of a thousand episodes. Wow. Yeah. So he's got a little bit of a roll of decks and he can he could call people to interview and he actually interviewed me and he is just he's a master. He really was able to make it comfortable and conversational. So thank you, CJ, for reminding me. I do a great job. Our board plus two emeritus, we're very we're very lucky to have the institutional memory we have here. Great. I would just add if anybody who sees this is interested in getting involved with Orca media in any capacity. We're here. We're now up at Vermont College of Fine Arts to list a call, shoot us an email, look for us on the web. We'd be happy to talk to you about how we can help your organization help you with your messaging, anything that we can do and anything you can do to support the mission. We're appreciative. Yes. And just coincidentally with our physical move, it was almost concurrent that our move from channels 15, 16 and 17. Now you will find us at 1075, 1085 and 1095. That should probably wrap up our proceedings tonight.


Oh, well, hang on a second. What about Theresa May? Theresa May today has managed to get a Brexit deal, but she's got it to the Cabinet, many of whom will oppose it, but because of Cabinet responsibility, will follow it through, and she's now going to go to an EU Brussels summit and then have to railroad it through Parliament. Is she an autocratic leader? Bearing in mind, her majority is non-existent. I would go one step further. Is she a positive autocrat? Is she? You tell me. No, you. Let's ask the House. All right. So let's go through... Ah, right. Here we go. Let's go through some world leaders, shall we? Go ahead. Donald Trump will give you hands up for positive autocrat, hands up for strong leader. You see? He's not a strong leader.  Hands up for bully. All right. Let's try someone... the Prime Minister. Go ahead. The Malaysian Prime Minister, the current Prime Minister. I just want to make sure I've got my ticket out of the country. All right. Let's ask the same question. Right. I'm going to. I'm going to. And the reason why we're doing this in this way is because you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. And you can have all... You can have all these theories till the cows come home. But unless you put it into practice in real life, it is just a very nice afternoon in a theatre in Kuala Lumpur. That's right. So, the Prime Minister. All those who say he is a positive autocrat. All right. All those who say he has crossed the line. All those who say their view of his positive autocracy is different now than it was when he was in office before. Explain that. I wasn't in Malaysia when... That's an unfair question. I wasn't in Malaysia at that time. I wasn't in Malaysia.