Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew, and I want to welcome back to the show the awesome author and amazing researcher of ancient history, ancient cuneiform texts, Matthew LaCroix. Matthew, how are you doing today? Great. It's awesome to be back here. Of course, some of my favorite topics, so you know, who couldn't be excited, right? Awesome. Well, we appreciate you joining us. And every once in a while with returning guests, I'd like to get your a little bit about your background again and what brought you to your current path. Okay. So I was someone who really, believe it or not, I really didn't study this stuff or look into ancient history secrets or any of that when I was young. I was someone who just spent all this time out in the woods running around hiking mountains and exploring. And that was my side of it. Seeing this whole side of the connections found in balances seen throughout nature and then seeing the unbalances in our society and how we treat our world, you know, trashing it and ignoring all of it. And people just driving the highway and running over animals and not even caring. It was like the sickness of our world. And it drove me to the point where I was when I was younger to start trying to figure out what was going on from, from that, from that side. And after pushing the limits of myself going off alone and camping in some wild areas where I shouldn't have been and getting almost in a lot of in a lot of trouble. In many cases, I did have situations where I probably could have got either seriously hurt or lost my life. But because of those moments, it drove me to want to write them down. And that's where all of my career as being a as being a writer as my secondary job started. And then that's where the whole ancient history thing began. Because as I started writing down and looking into my perspective of how I viewed society and how I saw, you know, the balance of nature and everything, I wrote my first book was actually called My Wilderness, because it was this idea of my perspective on on how I viewed the world and the experiences that I was having, you know, my my experiences. And, and I'm subsequently going back to redo that book. But that what really happened to me was in college, I started really researching this stuff. And after college, I got on a path, I guess, like a lot of people could say where they really, they feel like they want to know answers. You know, it's not enough to, and there's a lot of different kinds of individuals, you know, some people will be satisfied with learning more of a base understanding of how reality works around them.  So what do they do? They just, they put it down and they go back to their life and they move on, right?  So they think, Oh, I'm done. I'm not going to ever research, research or look into things again. And unfortunately, that's a pretty large segment of our population are people that decide that they're done learning.  In reality, like a lot of our, us truthers know is once you start going down this road, you realize that you don't really know that much at all. Because there's been a lot of things hidden. And there's been a lot of means which have blocked off our understanding of the fundamentals of both ancient history and reality because of a tightly controlled curriculum that was designed through by the, the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers years and years and years ago that is taught in every school. And that's why people are, when they start looking into the Sumerians and all of the, the advanced knowledge that they had that they got out of nowhere and they developed basically everything that we know of today in terms of the fundamentals of agriculture, governing, laws, mathematics, that all came from them. And yet it's the Sumerians aren't even really taught in school. There's, there's, there's not even, there's not even classes really that cover them. If people happen to get into some special class that's being offered in college, then congratulations to them. But I never had those opportunities. And I don't think most people do either. And so when I started going down this road, it became apparent to me that there was a lot of information that was jumbled and just left out there with these breadcrumbs from all these ancient societies and they were trying to tell us something. They were trying to tell us a story. And so I then got on this road of saying, well, what is our story and what is the story of history? And, and that's where, how we get to where we get today, because I was someone who had the opportunity to have some time, which is, I understand is, is a, is a critical component in all of this. If you don't have time, how are you supposed to do any of this? Especially if your energy is all drained through working and spending all of your, your precious, precious time and then you don't have any ability to be able to find these things out. And I think I do think that's one of the brilliance, the brilliant things about YouTube is it does get people, if they're objective in what they're picking it and what they're looking at, it gives them the opportunity to listen to something, maybe perhaps when they wouldn't be able to read or study something, right? Right. I don't know if you can hear that, but it is storming in the background back here. Yeah, that is rain. So if we happen to go out, I'll reconnect on my cell phone, but just letting you know that's what that background one is. It is a storming out here, but sorry, go ahead and continue. Yeah, that's, that's, that's fine. So I wrote eventually, and I actually, I think I rushed it a little bit too much early on, releasing the illusion of us because I really wanted so much of this information to get, to get out. And so, you know, after the second version and all the different, all the time I went back in to try to make it perfect, I'm, I'm learning those lessons. I'm learning those lessons right now because I'm trying to release the third book, which is, I think it's by far the most important one that I've written, and I'm trying to slow down and make sure that I get everything based on evidence and facts. So I'm, that's what I've been spending my time over the last year and slowly and slowly doing less and less shows because I'm trying to get this done. So I'm excited to release this. It's going to be called the stage of time. And it's really going to delve into understanding. It's a little bit more of an advanced book than the illusion of us. It's delving into understanding well, what makes up our reality? You know, how does, what, what really defines it? Is it defined by what we see? Or is it defined by something like super string theory in this electromagnetic universe? Is that, is that what really defines our universe in all these ways? And, but then, moving beyond just that, I wanted to bring in the whole ancient history aspect of explaining these anti-deluvian civilizations and the separation point for why we lost so much technology and knowledge and how, you know, we're made to believe we live in a world surrounded by billions of other planets and solar systems and yet it's all empty. And then, you know, there's never been any influence with, with any of developing human societies and any of that. And so this book is going to take all of these juicy pieces of evidence from like the Atrahasis and the Enuma Illish and the Emerald Tablets and so many other places too. It's going to take so many of these juicy pieces and it's going to have direct translations from the best translators that have done this. And it's going to look into what really is the story of the past, the present and what is the truth of a reality. And so that's what I've been really consumed with, I guess you could say, and I'm right at the end of finishing it and going back through and, and getting it up to Oranisi, but I'm hoping I can have that released a little bit after the new year. That will be awesome. We'll be very much looking forward to that. I mean, those topics are amazing and it brings us to some of the things that I'd love to talk about tonight and you mentioned, I'm glad that you mentioned our education system and how they don't teach anything real to begin with, let alone any real history. And you've done such amazing research into the Sumerian cultures and the ancient cuneiform and let's begin there, but let's not only begin there, let's begin with where we come from. Anunnaki beings, were they our creators? Did they create us from something that was already existing here? What are your thoughts? Okay, before I jump into that, I want to just let people know that I'm going to, we're going to be going through some topics that I've never discussed before. And, you know, some of these, some of these things I've, I've gone over in a few shows and I don't want to be redundant. So what we're going to do is we're going to start with some human origin stuff with some Madra Hay systems and some other various readings that I, that I've just, just to give us a base so that we can delve into some of these more complex topics like, you know, the Nephilim and some of these really neat things that Magellan saw and we're going to go into Emerald Tablet number two and some other various, various pieces of evidence that are really pretty amazing and, and unknown to a lot of people. So let me, let me start by sharing a few slides while we have this discussion. When you think of the past and you think of, you know, where humans came from and you, and you look around at the animal kingdom, I think one of the greatest means that it's held back our society and our consciousness from understanding the larger truths of where we belong and what we're part of is by, is by thrusting us in this Darwinian model of us being just simply an animal like the rest of the animal kingdom. And a lot of people maybe aren't really aware of how destructive that mentality is. If someone feels that way, which a lot of most people do, because that's been what's thrust and taught to us through all these different means, it's this idea that we got to this point simply based on survival of the fittest and by stepping on everything else to get here.  Right? That's, that's what they want us to believe is what's happening and that there's no outside influences in that, you know, this whole, you know, pool of ooze gets struck by lightning and then you have these, you know, macro invertebrates and all these things that come out of this and then eventually all of these different millions of species come out of it and eventually human beings come out of apes. And that's what we're taught. Right? And I want to talk about how that's not what ancient history says. And that's not what the evidence says at all. The evidence is actually quite the contrary. And I think that's one of the problems is that when someone, when people start looking at some of these tablets and some of the informations from these, some of these ancient cultures, when they compare to such a mundane viewpoint that we've been given, you know, like about what I just said, about having, how us, we're nothing, right? And that's that mentality. Nothing special, just an evolved ape. You can take, get whatever wealth you can accumulate, whatever you can have, you know, get as much as you can. And we're kind of treated that way by the, by the elites as well, that like we're nothing, they, with the food that we eat and the air that we breathe, you know, they, they kind of enforce that we are basically nothing as well. Exactly. If, if you were trying to keep people, people from knowing their true, energy potential and what they really are, the, one of the best ways to do it besides hiding all this information would be to dumb them down and sicken them so much that their entire vibrational structure of their energy is so low that they are functioning as a primitive being. That's essentially what they've done to us. They've, look at, look at the news that just came out. We're looking at this Glios fate or whatever that, that new, you know, with, with Monsanto is, is basically spraying, yeah, spraying on wheat to try to have it so pest and mold and various things don't, don't ruin it. And yet that's extremely harmful and dangerous. And it can cause cancer and it's in almost every single cereal that's been promoted to all these kids. It's just like when we saw this big news announcement come out saying that these salted meats and these cured meats can cause cancer and yet look in lunchables and all of these, these foods that were being given to developing children to, so they could, they could, you know, be strong and healthy. And at the same, what was it actually doing? It was sickening everybody causing, causing people to be less than their potential would have been. And not even just that causing them to exist in a state of energy that they don't belong in. That's the most important point that we're going to get to. As we go through all of this, we're going to get through and discuss the, the finer points of the fact that we are nothing like the animals in the, in the, in the insects and all the other things that are in our world. We are completely separate from that. And we should view ourselves that way, not in an elitist way, but as more of stewards that should be taking care of this planet. And yet we're just trashy and stealing all of its, you know, oil and gas and burning it all and destroying our world and filling our oceans with plastic. Is that how, you know, beings that have higher consciousness and may come from the stars? Is that how they really should be acting? Look at, one of the things that sickenes me the most is if you look at the idea, if you think about the idea that we are these great beings, the fact that we could be physically assaulting and attacking each other and killing each other in wars and all of these different means is, is really gets even more disgusting when you separate it out beyond Darwinism because it's, it's such a primitive nature. It's such a primitive means that it, it's very sad to me to see how people have been so conditioned to exist in that state. And so let's, let's start here, right? You had this question mark at the bottom right in the screen. What is this missing link? Where did we come from? Where did all this start? Well, I want to get a little bit of background and some of these things I've covered, but I want to, I want to bring them up again. And if we look at uniform tablets from Mesopotamia, that's where you need to start. That's really where you need to start. But you need to get pure translations. Be very careful. I would, I would essentially stick with the translations of George Smith and Stephanie Dalley with some Zechariah Sitchin, but we need to mix, we need to mix the sources of information and then objectively view them rather than just getting everything from one place. Because if someone was to make mistakes, which some of them have, you essentially would be getting your source of information from only one place. And that's a really dangerous thing to do. So if you get, if you get translations done from different people, from different angles, and they happen to correlate, that's how you know you have truth, at least as much truth as you can get without running into the idea that they could have been manipulated in the past, which I absolutely believe could have be possibly true, but we can't know that. So we have to go with the evidence we have and we have to try to objectively figure out using logic to come up with plausible conclusions for these things. And what they, what they essentially say when you read something like the Audra Hasis, one of these cuneiform tablets from Mesopotamia, which by the way is one of the only cuneiform tablets that's been translated and carried over by multiple civilizations. So you had, you had Sumer, you had Babylon, you had several of these up in Assyria, where it was originally, where it was originally found in the library of Ashurbanapal. You have several of these different cultures that have retranslated this because of the importance of what it contained. Okay. And essentially what the Audra Hasis says is this, long ago, hundreds of thousands of years ago, there were beings that came here. Okay. And beings that are far more advanced than we are, that can, that can even have the ability to have their consciousness possibly separate from the selves and be able to incarnate into somebody or even be able to influence other, other dimensions below them because they're, they're more advanced beings, but they came here and they had, you could call it a physical workforce or just non-royal members because really, look at these families, look at these, look at these royal families on our planet that are still here. Look at the Rothschilds, look at the queen and all these, these royal families that have these elite bloodlines. The only reason they're like that is because it was, it was simply carried down and handed down from above. These beings have that type of governing structure. They have a royal hierarchy system where they were, and then below them, they have basically other beings that are advanced, but they're not royal status. So they do a lot of the work for these beings. That's what they are. And they're known as the Aegean. Now these, go ahead. These beings, are they inter-dimensional beings? Are they actually from a different planet? They're definitely, they're definitely trans-dimensional, inter-dimensional, which means they have the ability to, to move between different dimensions. Now humanity, everything, everything you see around you in the physical world, that's part of the third dimension. Okay. And the third dimension is where matter becomes physical, but there's a lot of other dimensions, both above and below it. And because of that, what we see and what we perceive is largely just a small piece of that. Okay. And so these beings have the ability to basically master these dimensions. And if you have a being that exists in a lower state of energy that can really only perceive, perceive with its physical eyes, the third dimension, but only have the capability to glimpse, I say glimpse, having to do with our consciousness and things like love, which go beyond the third dimension, that those are fourth and fifth dimensional attributes. And that's where consciousness resides. So if you want to, if you want to really think about what defines our, our experience here, what do, what you and I talking right now, what you see, this is our, this is absolutely a, a brilliantly designed biological body where it's, it's like an antenna basically that can, if it's healthy enough, tunes into higher and higher states of consciousness that can, that then have the ability to allow that biological body to reach higher states of energy. That's what we are. And, and that's why these beings and some of these families and some of these, some of these, some of those who don't want humans to reach a higher, higher states of energy, they simply just keep them through conditioning, through food, through water, through all these different means, they simply just keep them in their lowest state of energy. And, and that's, if you think about what that is, it's, it's an energy prison because it, because we don't belong here. We belong in higher states of energy.  It's, it's horrible to look at how our reality has been shaped. And so what these kiniform tablets say, the Audra cases is it says that that these GG were on this planet and there was no other humans here. There was early hominids and they were doing all the work. They were doing all the work for these beings, whether or not it was mining or whether or not it was clearing out channels in, in these river channels, which is what they specifically says in the Audra cases they were doing. The Fertile Crescent, which is where Iraq and Syria and all those areas are, is where we see the most, the best evidence for these advanced civilizations and where they developed. And that's only because these beings went there first. That's where they went to create these civilizations and then start out. They were there before human civilizations. And the reason you know that is because when you read in the Audra cases, they talks about how these GG were clearing the lifelines of the land, these rivers, the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, because if you don't clear them, because they're running through such sandy and rocky areas, they get filled with sediment and dust and all these things, they become clogged. And so if you don't clear them, they turn into these mud pits and then you can't get any water out of them. And what were they clearing them for? They needed it for water, for agricultural purposes and for feeding themselves. And that's why you see this continued common interest in needing some kind of labor force to be able to supply them with energy and food and all these things because you had these beings again that are higher beings who are being forced to do manual labor in the third dimension and they don't want to do it. So eventually, this is where this 3600 year number comes from. After 3600 years, these GG beings, they revolted and they actually took over and they demanded relief and they weren't going to do this work anymore. That's not what they were made for. And that's where this story begins. Now these translations of the Audra cases, as I mentioned, because there's been a lot of stigma behind Zechariah Stitchin. He got a lot of things right, he got a few things wrong, but George Smith first of all translated the Audra cases almost 100 years before anyone else. And that's important because it represents an unpolluted viewpoint. And then Stephanie Daly came later in the 70s and 80s and further agreed upon the same translations, almost no changes were made. And so I want to show some of these, some of what was said and then we're going to get into some of these really interesting topics like what are the origins of these beings and what is the truth of the Nephilim and some of these other really interesting topics. And I want to read a very short paragraph. Go ahead. No, I think that some of the reasons that we only hear about Stitchin's work is they just only want one viewpoint out there as opposed to hearing all the ones that like you're speaking of to get a better understanding of what's going on. Exactly. And what do they do? They say Zechariah Stitchin had no professional training and then they discredit him. How are you going to discredit Stephanie Daly? She's one of the top Assyrian experts in the world. She teaches at Oxford University. She's still alive and she's got several books. And so you have these experts who have translated this and wait a minute. I thought the word Ononaki was made up by Zechariah Stitchin. No, it's not. And you're going to see that when I read it right now. It's not at all. And that's something we need to really make a point of is that these beings were first mentioned. They're called that because that was the first civilization that knew of them. And they called them that because they're actually called the Anuna, A-N-U-N-N-A. They're called the Anuna. And then the Sumerians simply called them the Ononaki because it represented them coming down to earth, which is that's what earth is. Earth, the name of earth is actually K-I, which is really interesting that the word key, right? And so I want to read a very brief quote from Tablet One of the Atrahasis, which also echoes the Anuma Elish on Tablet Six. So that, again, if you find correlation, that's something you want to pay attention to because that usually leads you more towards the truth. I'm just going to take a paraphrase from Tablet Number One of the Atrahasis, but this is essentially what it says in regards to human creation and the jump start that occurred to us. It says, Brothers. What are we complaining of? by washing. Then one God shall be slaughtered. Then a God and a man will be mixed together in clay. Let a ghost come into existence from the God's flesh and let the ghost exist so not to forget the slain God. And just think about what that means for a minute, a ghost, consciousness. Okay? So that they could create a being that would be advanced enough that what we think of as human consciousness, advanced consciousness would be able to incarnate into it. And that's something that I think a lot of people, it gets past people. What about animals and other biological creatures that don't have a certain brain capacity and type of energy capacity? I don't think that all, I think all consciousness has a common source, but I think that individual consciousness is what defines us, which is eternal. And that's where the whole karma and reincarnation comes from because we do have our own unique conscious energy. And I think to allow that conscious energy that we are, that's higher dimensional to be able to come into a biological, hominid being, you have to have that being be at a certain point. What does that mean?  It just wouldn't, it wouldn't happen. Okay. It'd be a much more basic type of creature, but instead, instead of that, we had a situation where we have this incredible biological design and I'll get into that more where we have this ability to tune into our higher states of consciousness. And that's what we are. We're all these, you know, we're all these creator gods here that are in this body that are being tormented and used in our lowest form energy to just give up all our energy to never, never advance and reach higher levels. It's, it's quite amazing if you sit back and you look at it from an outside perspective of what we are and what we're doing. And that's the whole point behind a movie like The Matrix. That's what it's trying to get at the whole time. Now, with that translation I just read from the Audraasis, a lot of that is hidden in symbols and metaphors. It's one of the things that Thoth's talks about is how a lot of this has been cleverly and deliberately hidden because what would happen if it wasn't? If all of this was written in plain tongue, simple, right? Instead of saying they mixed something like clay together in a slaying god, what if they just talked about how they took a primitive biological helmet and genetically jumpstarted? They don't use those words. Why? Because this information is part of being, that's, it's made to be uncovered through agreements that were made, made to be uncovered by those who have the ability to uncover it. So that if someone wasn't at a certain conscious level and they hadn't reached a certain imbalance or they're not on a certain path in life, they can't just find this and immediately understand it all. Because the reason behind that is, everything is protected so that you never heard that phrase, you know, with great power comes great responsibility, right? That's the same thing with us is that we are not allowed to reach these higher states of energy. That's been designed that way by these beings unless we are able to get through certain roadblocks and reach and certain, do certain things in our life to prove our worth. And part of that is simply, is studying hard and learning the reality around you and going down that long hard road that most don't, don't take because it's really difficult, it's really hard. You get rewarded by doing that, by reading things like this and being like, I understand what that's saying them, I think. And other people saying, I have no clue. And that's, that's the difference. And then those people that are understanding it are the same ones that are reaching higher states of consciousness. It's all connected. It's all, it's all connected in this. And so essentially with the, what the Autoresis says is, and what a lot of other, other cuneiform writings say for Mesopotamia is that somewhere around 200,000 years ago, roughly in that, in the human genome, if you, if you look at the sequencing and the age and what they think maybe how far back it was, that's some, also some agreement that's been made there too. In this, in this time frame, doesn't mean it's exactly that, but it's, it means a lot longer ago than we've been told. You know, the whole human story is, is given to us in something like 10 to 20,000 years, when as really it's several hundred thousand years, quite a bit longer. And that's a long time. Think about what you could do a civil civilizations could do in 10,000 years and think about what civilizations could do in 200,000 years comparison. There's so much of human history that's been left out and suppressed and kept away from us that we don't know about. Okay. Now the first thing I want to bring up is that these beings on the right and Lillian Enki, these who's also, who was originally called Ea, they, they're not simply metaphors for things like the sun and the moon and the planets and the different, these are not just the, the archetypes of human nature. That's something that the experts tell everyone and a lot of people, even people who are very smart will say, okay, that's fine. They're all just made up. Then how could every culture all across the world echo the same exact information, knowledge and the certain traits that these, that these beings have had. I'm not saying that these beings have physically been involved in every single culture and like telling them what to do and handed them. But I think they were all based in on, on ancient, ancient influences that have been able to carry through because, and then we're going to talk about what that means as we go on. But so they, these beings came here. Again, like I said, the Yajiji didn't want to work anymore. They needed some kind of a physical being to work in the third dimension, to labor here in this planet because they, they were very interested in two things. One, they were very interested in harnessing the energy of our planet because I think some planets, depending on their, their specific electromagnetic energy and, and the capability of what they have, some have far more energy than others. And if you're an energy being or you're just trying to harness energy, that'd be one of the things that you'd be really interested in is some kind of a crystal energy grid, which is what they say existed here a long, long ago by, by other civilizations that had come here, you know, way before they arrived. Okay. And we're going to talk about that as we go on. But so here you have the situation where you have these, these, these hominid beings and they've been called, it looks like a combination of Neanderthal and Denisovians. These are, and these were absolutely the early hominids that were here, but they're not simply just an evolved ape. There was, there was other steps and stages involved that, that also had it had a hand in, in them reaching the next stage that they were, because a Neanderthal and a Denisovian is, is much more advanced than a, than an April gorilla. I think part of that we've been made to believe that maybe they're, they were just like apes, but they really weren't. Actually, Neanderthals could, could, they were much stronger and had other attributes that we don't have that we have, we actually have lost since then. So these, these, these, these Anuna beings, these Anunnaki, they're here. They try to figure out what to do. How do they make a being? How do they make a worker that they can do this work? So they, because they're advanced hominids themselves, they needed the ability to, to have some similarity so that they could use their genetics to jumpstart one of these beings. Okay. So they took these Neanderthals and Denisovians. And like I said, this, this question mark right here, that's where that comes from. That's why you have a doubling of brain size out of nowhere in why you have these really strange incursions into the human genome. So they essentially, they essentially jumpstarted the human genome. And today, and if people don't believe that, I'll tell you, I'll ask you to look at one piece of evidence only. Ignore all this if you want to go study our genes, go study our genome and go read about what scientists call junk DNA, but what's really called non-coding DNA. You can manipulate the past information all you want, but, but DNA holds secrets that can't be ignored or suppressed in terms of hiding it. It's there. And if they look, they're going to find it. And so you look at, you look at this aspect of what is non-coding DNA? What is that, man? Well, if we are a Darwinian ape that evolved naturally on this planet, what non-coding DNA is, is it basically provides the missing link that separates this entire thing. It proves that we're not an evolved ape because what it means is non-coding simply means it doesn't share DNA with any other species on the planet. That's simply what it means. So if you think about, oh, well, we share a certain percentage with cows and monkeys and fish and, look, see, we're just like them because we share this percentage. How it really works with DNA is you have a base that's developed that takes up the majority of what the DNA is. It's like, it's the base of that, of that design, but what really separates these huge leaps and these gaps in, in the DNA of one species to another in terms of one being more advanced than the other is, are these small things. And that's why when you look at the percentage of non-coding DNA, it may not be huge, but it still doesn't, doesn't represent any other species on the planet. And it is the reason why if you take the combination of the fact that our brain is so much larger, longer, larger, and we have this DNA, it shows you the fact that we became separated from the animal kingdom a long time ago, hundreds of thousands of years ago to be more, to be more specific. So, and I think, I think it's very interesting that you brought up that they are actually advanced hominids. They are basically advanced human beings and that's a big misunderstanding as well. A lot of people think that these are aliens, you know, green beings with antennas and stuff, but they're just actually advanced beings from different dimensions. Well, okay, well, let's think about it for a minute. If we, knowing what we know about the universe and knowing what we know about biological beings, there can only be a couple variations. You either have a hominid being, which is the mammal side, that, I mean, whatever branches of that, that, that diverge, right? And they're much taller than us though. I got to point that out. They're not like we are. They're, wherever they come from is so much larger that they're able to be large, they're able to be taller because our, we're designed specifically for the gravity and the specifics of our planet, how the electromagnetic grid here works. Now, but, so what does that mean? Well, it means that beings could really, in my mind, only come in three groups. You either have some kind of a hominid being, you have some kind of a reptile being, or, which is a dinosaur essentially, but beyond that, or you have some kind of an insect being. There's really only three groups that could really reach higher states from, from under our current understanding that could reach higher states. And I don't think that there's, there's, I'm not, I'm not necessarily saying that there's all these insectoids and reptilians and all these things everywhere, all over the place. I think that some of these beings reach such high states of advancement that they no longer look, look like what we would perceive as being like a reptilian being. In many ways, they may look a lot like a hominid or something. Because I think they, these states of energy and higher consciousness in a biological being eventually take on a more advanced form. So I, so we shouldn't be surprised that, that the Anunnaki are, are advanced humanoids, considering the fact that you, they, they're the ones who, who needed to use their genetics to jumpstart us. So if we, if they weren't humanoids, then how would they be compatible to do that? There's the, the proof behind that and not to mention all the different ways that they're shown, which is shown as this tall, horned helmet being in most cases, you know, that's usually a lot taller than the, than those around them. So I want to bring up this really important point. Who created the Neanderthals and Denisovians then? Where did all, where did all of this come from? And what's the whole point of the story? It really comes down to if you, if you delve into the ancient cultures all over the world, some of the, some of the ancient Asian Southeast Asian cultures and some of the Mayans and the Hopi, they talk about how, you know, beings long ago had created their ancestors before, but some of them actually don't mention anything about the Anunnaki. Some of them specifically mentioned the Palladian star system. Okay. Which I believe is the same as the Anunnaki. I believe the Anunnaki are just, they're just beings that are part of different places that are, the only reason they're called that is that's the group of them that they were, that, that royal family group is known of, that probably has, is grouped up with probably people, you know, they're probably from Sirius and Orion and the Pleiades and their Pleiades and they're all together in this, this group in our solar system. And that's what they've called themselves. Okay. That's what I think the difference is between them. And so I think, I think we had a situation where something like the ancient Palladian civilization came here long before 2000 years ago and had a specific plan for how these Neanderthals and Denisovians would eventually end up through something like macroevolution, okay, versus micro, looking at the differences between how a species can change on a, on a, on a, on a small level versus how it can change on a major level. Okay. And I think they probably ideas, they probably come back after certain time periods and just slowly tweak and change things over time, rather than just this huge jumpstart like we saw. So I think in many ways these beings, these Anunnaki beings who came here, they disrupted both the energy grids that were here on the planet and disrupted the genetic genome of these Neanderthal Denisovians. And that's what led to us. So you could think of us as being, we're really not supposed to be in this place yet. It's we're, we're too early, you know, we're way before we were supposed to ever reach this point. And, and that's why there's so much chaos because we're like these, we're like these children who are incarnating into these incredible bodies with higher consciousness. And yet we're not really ready for it in many ways. And so we, that's one of the reasons why it's so easy to trick our demiurges and keep us in such a lower state of energy. So I want to talk about Chris, do you have any questions on that before we move on? No, no, I just found that was very fascinating. And just that I had, there must have been some kind of split along the way in the, our disagreement in how we were supposed to go among the leaders or the hierarchy of the Anunnaki because of the suppression along the way. But I'm sure you're going to get to that. Actually, I guess I should bring that up.  That's a really good point. One of the things I talked about a lot is the whole idea that in this Royal Council of 12, they call them. Okay. They've had many names for them. They call it the Elohim. They've become the Council of 12, the Anunnaki. There's, there's a lot of different names that they've been called and they, they became greatly, this, and this is one of the reasons why I'm glad you brought up. It's one of the reasons why we see so much conflict we see today is that Enlil, remember the work of Enlil, when I mentioned in the, in the Adrahesis, the work of Enlil, he was in charge of the physical labor on the earth, on the planet. Okay. So you have this group of royal beings and they have certain names and their names are not like the names we have. The names that they have are names that have been given based on their title. So Enlil and Key is simply just a way of saying their lords of something. So En meant Lord. So Lill, Lord of the sky, Lord of the upper dimensions and governing the physical dimension. And then Key would essentially, and Key's name is essentially Lord of the earth, and specifically fresh water and inner earth. Okay. Because they, I think some of them, they basically consider the third dimension part of, part of the role of Enlil instead of Enki, which by the way, if that had been, if that decision had been different, everything would have been changed in our history. Because what happened was essentially, there was this great divide that developed between these beings, because Ia Enki was this master geneticist. The Australians actually called, they actually said he was the great serpent and one of the great creators of the universe. So we don't even know how powerful these beings are. But Ia Enki, the great serpent dragon, he was this master geneticist. And one of the amazing things about it is that I found so fascinating, no matter how many times I mentioned it, and or read about it, is the idea that, that Enlil wanted us to be designed and some of the others wanted us to be designed as designed as simply a primitive worker. But Ia, with the help of, of Ninma, ended up designing us as a being that could even reach a higher state of energy than them. Try to wrap your head around that. That's why it sickens me so much to see what goes on in our world. Because we, if we're able to go down this, at the end of the show, we're going to talk about human states of energy and how you can reach higher states and all of these different things. But if people were able to reach those higher states, like all these, these famous people in history, like Gandhi and Buddha, and all these others that everyone's got a lot of different names for, they're just simply humans that are either incarnated from someone important, or they're people who have managed to reach their higher, one of their highest states of energy. That's all it is. And so when they do that, they become, you know, they become legends because they're able to pass down teachings and understandings and affect those around them on such a fundamental level that they become, they become like milestones in history and milestones in reality because of the impact they've made. And that means that, to get back to it, so Ia secretly created the human avatar, this body that we have, to have what are called chakra centers of energy. And a lot of people hear that word. They think it's just silly terms for people that are hippies and all these things. We've got to get past that. These are the essential aspects of what makes up our biological, physical body. And what allows us to reach higher states. So what that means is this, everything comes down to energy and vibration. And as a human reaches these higher states of awareness and health within their body, they're able to raise their vibratory structure, their energy of their body. And when they do that, they basically unlock these different chakras which exist in the Kundalini of our spinal energy. They're able to unlock each one. As you do that, you're able to reach higher and higher states of consciousness and energy. And that's the very thing that some of these beings don't want. And that's what Ia-Ia, Enki secretly designed us as, is are these beings who could eventually in the future, if they will get through the conditioning and slavery of their species in terms of how we are functioning, if we're able to get past that on this collective level, we can even reach a greater stature and ability to create them them. So we become the creators of our reality rather than them and others dictating how reality goes. If you have, let's just say, just hypothetically, they were to say, had this mass news announcement that said that there was this massive bomb that went off and killed like thousands of people, but it didn't actually happen. You could still cause that reality to become that because every, all the people, the ones that helped to create this reality, that's what we are, they end up believing that's true and so they actually manifested.  Human beings will believe something for so long and be so conditioned for so long that it almost becomes part of history and we take on the energy and the responsibility of maintaining that, even though in many cases there are lies, like how we perceive certain heroes and certain individuals throughout history. So when Enlil and some of these others found out that we had the potential to reach this heightened state of our energy, they were, if they were furious and we're going to talk about what the anti deluvial differences with the disasters that occurred and what happened with the divergence and everything, but it simply means there, there became a great divide with these beings to the point where they hated each other and they would start wars with each other over the idea of, because it was very important to them, what is two things? What is the future of earth and what is the future of the human race? Those are the two things that are the most interest to not just them, but many, many others. Because if you're an advanced being, you'll, you have the capability and you've seen this in so many places, they talk about this, you have the ability to see timelines, you can perceive timelines. So you could actually say, you can have the ability to look far into our future and say, what is that being going to eventually reach? And if that's something that could be a threat to them, not in a physical way, but in a way where they become, they take over their, their own reality to become greater beings and such, you would, some of them don't want that because you can, they can feed off the energy of, of everything that's here because we're, what we're essentially doing is giving up all of our creative energy that I'm going to talk about. It's called BA, BA, all of our creative energy that the Egyptians call that we're giving it up freely to them. That's essentially how this works because we're not using it for any kind of creation. We're simply using it to do manual labor and really simplistic things in a lot of cases. There are people, doctors and a lot of people that do really hard things. I completely understand that, but what, but at the end of the day, you look at the fact that we're working 40 to 60 hours a week in some cases more. And all of our time is simply being stolen. And that's the whole point to make us look at reality as the means of just an ape that got here and needs to just keep working. Cause that's how the whole, that's how reality works when reality were nothing to do with that. We're nothing like that at all. Okay. And so this divide became this struggle in war that I call the struggle of the eagle versus the serpent because these different gods carry different symbols, powerful symbols that would represent themselves and others that were part of them. And then civilizations who, the certain kings and the bloodlines that were carried down to certain individuals that would carry on the same structure, they essentially would mimic those that would had influenced them. So that's why you see all the empire civilizations of the world have eagles and different variations of that. And then you see any kind of a conscious civilization culture have either a serpent or a dragon because a dragon essentially is a serpent that's simply metamorphosizes. And that's one of the things that's hammered in almost everything you see with these ancient Sumerian civilizations and anything out of ascertainia is this idea of wings, the caduceus medical symbol, the whole wing idea. It simply just represents the metamorphosis of energy. So if you have a the metamorphosis of the symbol of a serpent, which is a symbolic representation to represent that side is higher knowledge, balance, wisdom. Okay. What does the snake do? It sheds its skin all the time like transformation. There's a lot of reasons why these beings are beyond intelligent. There's a lot of reasons why they chose the certain symbols they did because those symbols like we have on the screen here, Thoth chose the symbol of the ibis because it's a patient teacher of mankind. These are birds that slowly and patiently and methodically feed and they exist. That's the mentality he wanted to show, this patient teacher. None of these symbols that show these animals and these references, that's nothing to do with what they look like. We got to get past that. We got to look at this from a metaphorical view in a symbolic view and look at what are they trying to tell us? What are they trying to tell us about human energy, about energy consciousness and energy of the planet? And what are they trying to tell us about all this stuff? And that's what we're going to get into. So as you may have noticed, the conquerors of our world and our flags, if you do a little research and look up, just go look up eagle flags of history.  What does eagle mean? It represents seeing everything from above and being the controller and dominating everything and being a war power. That's what the eagle means. It has nothing to do with a beautiful eagle bird. It's the symbol. And so you look all around the world at these civilizations and they've conquered the serpent and the dragon. There's really nothing left. The last ones on our entire planet that existed were the druids and they were wiped out by St. Patrick and his thugs during St. Patrick's Day. That whole holiday celebrating the cleansing of Ireland and northern Scotland and that whole area. That's simply wiping out and eradicating the last society that still practiced the knowledge of the ancient serpent dragon. And that's why you see the Aztecs and the Mayans.  It's the same thing. And we're going to get into some Slavic mythology too that a lot of people don't know about that talks about the same thing as well. So what do I have on the screen? Well, I want to talk about where possibly these beings came from. I already mentioned I think that they likely came from somewhere far outside our solar system. And the evidence for that is really fascinating actually. If you think about the idea of like an invading solar system or something this very old and you look at a lot of this the pioneer 10 data from, you know, we were talking about in previous shows looking at the fact that there's a dead binary sun that has been, it's been this conspiracy that they haven't told us about that's been influencing. It has a planet potentially or at least a large planet that's potentially been impacting our outer solar system. And it may be part of this story all along. Maybe part of the idea of where all of this began and why there's been so much destruction in our solar system. And so in codex number two of the Nagamani scriptures, which I highly recommend people read the Nagamani scriptures represents, which the word Nog is snake. So it's basically like snake knowledge. It's representing one of the best collections that exist from Gnostic writings from the ancient past, which is that eventually became rewritten and turned into modern Christianity long, much later after. Now I want to read I want to read a section from tablet number two of the Emerald tablets. And basically what these are is they represent what are combined to collectively be called hermetic writings, because Hermes was one of these influences from that has been, you can see all throughout history of these certain individuals who have these traits that keep getting carried and they keep following the same story. And Hermes and a lot of the other ones are just these incarnations of these beings like Thoth. Okay. And what Thoth says is, is that he was from Atlantis. Okay. He came from Atlantis. And if you look in the Emerald tablets, it's very clear that when Atlantis was being destroyed, he left and he went and he's the one who built the pyramids of Egypt. And he and then he left when he was kicked out by Ra, when they switched over to the solar calendar, because he's a he's he was the Crescent moon God, he was he was the one who was part of part of the lunar calendar. A lot of people don't know that. So he leaves Egypt, and he goes and starts to Mesoamerican cultures and he was the he was one of these. He was an ibis in in this the symbol of the ibis represented in Egypt. But he was usually referenced represented in other incarnations and other times as a serpent and dragon as being part of Ea's legacy and he's part of that side. You have to remember this division between those who wanted to help humanity, retire states of energy and consciousness, and those who want to not allow that and not allow us to reach those states. Okay. So one of the neatest things about this is in the Emerald tablets, which is one of these ancient ancient ancient ancient ancient ancient writings that goes back to we don't even know the origins of it, but it goes back to so long ago that it's likely just carried on from Atlantean knowledge. And that's because that's what Boff says right in it. Okay. And what he says in in a and I want to make another point and point a lot of people don't some people there's a group of society out there that thinks the Emerald tablets aren't real and they've been made they've been written by someone to trick us and all these things. Go look at how many famous people in history such as Isaac Newton who use the Emerald tablets to literally figure out their theories on reality. Okay. What the Emerald tablets do is they provide such conclusive evidence that we just keep verifying that it would be impossible that it would be a fake thing because if it was fake, why would it be truth? I mean, I read the Emerald tablets and it would be an amazing fakery. I mean, I don't I couldn't see how it could be, you know, a fake. It's like every answer is there, right? It's amazing. And I want to read a section on this because it talks about these beings, these great Anuna beings. It doesn't mention them by name, but it but it mentions, you know, them being part of this and where they came from and how these beings really are where the children of them we where we're in design in the essence of them. Okay. And that's why there's so many common references to children. So I'm going to read a segment from Tablet number two where it says, far in the past time, lost in space time, the children of light look down on the world, seeing the children of men in their bondage, bound by the force that came from beyond, knew they that only by freedom from bondage could man ever rise from the earth to the sun, down the descended and created bodies, taking the semblance of men as their own, the masters of everything set after their forming. We are they who were formed from the space dust, partaking of life from the infinite all, living in a world as children of men, like and yet unlike the children of men, then, then for a dwelling place far underneath the earth's crust, blasted great spaces by their power, living in the world as children of men, surrounded them by the forces and power shielded from harm, they, the halls of the dead. Side by side, then, place they other spaces, filled them with life and with light from above. Builded they then the halls of a mentee that they might dwell eternally there, living with life to eternity's end. Thirty in two were there of their children, sons of the lights, who had come among men, seeking to free from the bondage of darkness, those who were bound by the force from beyond. So, one of the things that he mentions there that's so fascinating is, well, many things, but one of them is the halls of a mentee, okay? And right now we're seeing all these discoveries being made with all these tunnels under the pyramids of Giza, where some of these areas underneath these tunnels and these openings may be more extensive than even what's on the surface. That is something that people have to wrap their minds around is that the surface maybe just be one of the places where a lot of these secrets lie and most of them may actually be underground because these beings are very smart. They know and they look at earth's history that there have been so many cataclysms and destruction that have occurred that they can't risk losing everything on the surface. You know, you're not going to lose the great pyramids because they're so huge. And that's one of the reasons why he built it besides energy was also to be a beacon for the future. But also, if you build underground, you know that it'll be protected. It's in some in some in some ways forever. So one of the greatest discoveries that's going to be made in the future is going to lie in these tunnels underneath the great pyramids where hasn't NASA taken over an aspect of the Giza pyramid? Have they won? Haven't they taken over some aspect of the the research at the Giza pyramid? Well, we just saw that a huge announcement just get made that everybody's been waiting for where they discovered that there's electromagnetic energy that's perfectly tuned within the great pyramid of Giza, which everybody in our circle has been just waiting for because we knew that. And that's simply just the component that is about harnessing the energy because there's no writings or anything in the pyramids and there's never been any fair was found in them. Those are all lies. They're simply massive energy power plants. But here's the question. What were they powering more than 10,000 years ago? And I think the answer to that has to do with two things either connecting to the highest stage of energy that can be utilized for creation and affecting human energy, as well as potentially even changing the energy grids of the planet. Because these pyramids are built right on the lay lines and these special energy segments of our planet, which is simply just this sphere surrounded by electromagnetic energy. That's what everything is. That's why that's why Tesla discovered free energy. He was simply just utilizing the electromagnetic energy of our planet that it creates. That's what these pyramids are. That's what all of these designs are all around the world. From ancient mounds, you see out in Mexico and the Southwest, all the way to temple pyramids and then all the way to these large pyramids, they in many ways had the same purposes. Slightly different things at times, but overall they had the same purposes about energy. So thought from Atlantis says that these beings came from beyond and they started using humans to incarnate into and they would hide in them and pretend they were man and do all these. It makes you think, if they were the ones responsible for new, maybe they were the ones responsible for new inventions and not just some random person tinkering, if you consider the fact that they mentioned how many times they keep incarnating and using people and using us for different means. They call themselves the children of light. They say that they were created when everything was being formed from space-time and that's mind-blowing, but it really echoes the idea that they may be millions of years old and that's why we can't wrap our heads around how complex all of this is because they're so far beyond our capability of consciousness that we're just trying to pick up the scraps and pieces of all this without really understanding probably what the larger picture of all this is. Right, I mean there's so much, I mean if you're just starting to get into this and discover these tablets and these old writings, it's so much to digest and there's so much to cipher through. It's hard just to tell the truth, but I mean with people like you getting all this excellent information out there, it's making it more abundant for people to understand what actually happened in our past. Exactly and take something like the Emerald Tablets. Again, more proof that you know they're not fake. Try to follow them. That's what I did. I took the teachings that were in there and I said I want to see and the ancient cultures all around the world like the Gnostics. I said to myself it's not about just writing about this stuff. I want to see that this is why I want the reasons I'm so passionate is I've seen some of these higher states of energy by following this curriculum of how you can raise your vibration and all these different means and when you do have these incredible experiences that go along with doing this, you are forever changed and you know that it's real because you experience it directly and walking outside in a higher state of energy and being so much more connected to your consciousness and all these other things, all of a sudden reality just becomes completely different and your perspective on how you viewed everything changes and a lot of your activities change and what you used to do that was maybe just passing the time by then becomes doing things that actually make create experiences and grow and grow you and that's why there's such a difference in between certain segments of society because you have one segment that starts to learn about this stuff and just goes on you know the deepest rabbit hole ever and is considered crazy and a lunatic because on the other side some of society that's been given this Monday viewpoint they look at some of this stuff without doing any of the studying or looking any of the history of the evidence and it just looks crazy to them and I would just like to bring up something that I bring up all the time but it's just so important is if you were around hundreds of years ago and you were told that there were giant lizards that were the size of buildings and houses running around all the earth stomping around eating each other these huge lizards you would laugh your head off I know I would you would laugh your head off but it was amazing though is if you take that same group and then you bring them into a building and you start going look at all these bones you were seeing bones like this before and you start putting them together to show this model of a skeleton of an enormous lizard and you and all of a sudden what became crazy is no longer crazy anymore it simply seemed crazy because you didn't have the necessary information to be able to weigh and compare what you're look you're looking at and so all you have to do is is well not all you have to do it's it's a hard road but by going down the road of of accumulating this knowledge and doing this you're able to separate yourself out to know that there's all all this stuff is existing a lot of it's real some of it might not be but a lot of it's real and it's our job to find out what's real when you agree I would definitely agree and that's exactly why I do this show is to uh to get the truth out there or what could possibly be the truth about our history and everything that's going on that we don't know about exactly exactly um and I so I want to go into this next topic it's one of these topics that again I brought up that dinosaur thing because we're going to be talking about giants and the Nephilim and fallen angels and now I wanted to say before you get into this I've been fascinated with the the the giant mythos um especially you hear it in the book of Enoch it was removed from the bible probably for a very good reason and um and I'd love to hear what you have to say about this go ahead sure so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna have some discussions about this and I want to bring some facts to the table not just again like that that that evidence thing we're just talking about let's bring some facts to discuss this remember we were talking about how the Anuna are very tall you see that in a lot of places right behind chris on the wall there on his poster that's the famous um giant seated from Sumeria where they have you know one of these great beings that's standing you know far above all the rest that's simply a fact they were much taller than we were okay that's you can see that everywhere all over these writings against they didn't simply represent their stature as great greatness you know you make them larger than life because of that it wasn't about that they were actually were very large and that and we're going to get into evidence that proves that okay and that's why if you look at the statues that have been created from a lot of those beings they're almost all the same size think about that compare the facial sizes and how large these are you'll find that all over the world these statues of a lot of these are actually created with the same exact size which is pretty amazing itself and you you you just open it up mentioning the book of Enoch in the book of Enoch it goes into great detail about these fallen angels and if you want to understand giants in the Nephilim you have to first understand what fallen angels are because they're directly connected in all of this first of all there's no such thing as angels and there's no such thing as um as demons it's just simply references to place something in a certain framework to understand it okay because some of these angels are actually pretty bad beings and some of those who we think are like Satan the devil and all these bad other beings are actually not bad at all because the modern church ended up creating incredible confusion when they they took all of these things that are not supposed to be literal and they they designed it in such a way where people are so a lot of people are so confused because of it because of what they've done about the whole heaven and hell thing heaven is simply higher dimensions hell is simply lower states of energy where where where energy is managed and manipulated that's what essentially it is and the underworld which is considered the same as hell is not a bad place at all it's it's simply again it represents where energy is managed okay these terms don't confuse us yeah these terms have been incredibly perverted and that means taking their true meanings and not only inverting them but making them turning one into like a demonic term that has nothing to do with it take an example of before I get going continue on this take an example of satan satan this figure has this pitchfork right and this at the same time if you look at the trident carried by all kinds of references showing what what most likely is probably enki ia and showing Poseidon with his trident you see very quickly that that the pitchfork is simply the inverted version of the trident that's it that's all it is and that's that's why all of this stuff has been manipulated so much so the book of enoch which is one of the most important nostric set of writings ever written along with like the knock of money scriptures was just very cleverly written out of the modern bible because of what it continued to talk about these fallen angels who talked about you know the nephilim what what what are those terms well fallen angels what it means is if these beings these on these anuna beings these on anarchy beings exist in higher dimensions and these higher dimensional beings they're more advanced what the term fallen means is if they did something very wrong they were cast down and and they were no longer immortal essentially like eternal and they were forced down into our reality and they had to they had to live out either existing here in this in this in this reality of this realm or they had to live out being an actual physical being that could die and so the term fallen angels means means that they were cast down to the to the physical realm of earth and they were in some of them were forced to remain here and they ended up causing chaos because of it okay and so what that means is one of the most common reason why they'd be called fallen angels is that they would come down some of them would come down and end up having promiscuous acts with females because female women are beautiful that's not that's just not just my perspective they are they're they're beautiful and they they attracted some of these beings who you know look at how in look at how Enlil views the human race he called us beasts who never deserved these these divine genetic gifts that were given to us so if you have that mentality held by some of them where they don't think that we ever should have had this given to us in the first place that's one of the one of the things that justifies their reasoning by keeping us in a lower state of energy because they don't think we deserve it so if you have that mentality and you have some of these beings that meet with mortal women that's was seen as an incredibly despicable act and so that they were then kicked out from this this realm this higher dimensional conscious place that they exist in and they were forced into our realm to stay here eternally okay now and that's where that's why we had these these terms with you know the Michael these archangels and all these different things in all through our religion okay now what is the Nephilim the Nephilim means any of these fallen angels these fallies on an hockey were cast down for having promiscuous acts with with mortal women any of those women who gave birth to a child who was directly crossed with these genetics those were the Nephilim now because these here's the evidence because if you look at all the evidence we're going to go over all the stuff that mentions in the Nephilim and the evidence for giants in history they're even shorter than the Anunnaki because they're only half the Anunnaki okay that's why in the Sumerian king list the reason why we have so many kings that were so tall and lived so long was because they were literally direct crosses of these bloodlines and these in these Anunnaki branches okay and that's the same thing that continued all throughout reality some of them they were in charge especially some of the negative polarity aspects of it they realized that they could control our reality by putting certain puppet controllers in place who were told that they were essentially better than others because they had these elite bloodlines of these of these Anunnaki and then they've been governing us essentially all along but things have gotten out of control here okay this wasn't supposed to be this bad it really is the way that they've controlled us through energy and war and keeping us in a lower chakra of energy if you keep a human being in their red root chakra of energy which is where a being will exist if they're still in a state of fear and and and being manipulated through their demi urges that's what those are all those primitive urges are demi urges that's why Thoth and the Emerald Tablet says from a force that came from beyond there he's talking about this whole preying on our demi urges thing by understanding our demi urges so well if you perpetuate them you keep us in a lower state of energy that's what all this is all about okay so the Nephilim were all these offspring of the Anunnaki through these human women and it got out of control and this by the way is we're talking about over 100,000 years ago for most in most cases okay ancient ancient long ago so these offspring are born and you have essentially giants either that are kings or they end up going off and just going to some other part of the world or something and so you have essentially giants all over the world that don't belong there they're not even designed to exist in this type of world again remember we're designed to specifically function in this size planet with this electromagnetic gravity sphere because of how tall we are and how our energy is designed they're not supposed to be here they're an abomination okay because of that that was one of the reasons why these beings a lot of such a devastating combination of events to occur that led to this deluge because they wanted to some of them that some of the interests that be wanted to restart the whole experiment that was here because it became out of control there was there was Nephilim everywhere and they were causing our genetics and our in our in our our future to be skewed and and changed so um if you if you read in the king james bible if you want to see some of these references pretty amazing it's it states in the king james bible there were giants in the earth in those days and also after when the sons of god came in unto the daughters of men and they bore children to them the same became the mighty men which were the old men of renown so think of something like hercules so all of these all of these great heroes all of these great kings they're all simply these these these crosses of these special genetics of the onanaki that's why they were so strong and so tall and lived so long and that's that's all it is and over time our genetics have both been downgraded and it's just been so long since then that that a lot of those gifts have been lost we still have tremendous gifts but it's largely they're largely dormant inside our genome and we can we're going to talk about why that is and then later on at the end so and also we also pulled off most of these giants ourselves yes and that's what i'm about to get into now i'm mentioning that quote from the king's james bible it says there were giants in the earth in those days and then members says the sons of god came down that are just simply talking about the onanaki these fallen it's the same thing they just use different terms okay now what that means is eventually over time armies and and different aspects were hunting these giants down and killing whatever was left because one of the hardest aspects to understand about this is this history that the king's james bible is talking about is talking about after this deluge because the giants weren't all killed a lot of them were but a lot of them some of them went into these massive caverns in the earth and they survived and that's why it says they were there were giants in the earth and then in those days and then after because whatever whatever survived through these caverns and came back out became these legends became these legends of fighting these giants and then whatever was left over within these um these famous kings and these other beings who were had still these leftover genetics that still made them taller you got to think of this these different blood lines where you have you know like probably these pure bread bread and nephelin that have been around you know for long periods of time and then you had these where they probably made it with another woman along the way who made it with another one so over time every time you get a small a shorter and shorter person even though they still have a lot of those traits so that's why I think you get not all of them are the same height and that's that's why you get all those those alterations but basically after the the deluge we're going to talk about they were essentially hunted to extinction and and uh and chris I don't if you want to mention anything before I move on but um oh no go ahead uh keep going we uh you know we've got about 30 minutes or so I gotta keep going I gotta keep going yeah this is one of my favorite pieces of evidence that I'm excited to talk about okay I'm gonna move the move this over so it's not in the way here so I'm I'm putting up one of the maps that was drawn shows basically look at the the circle that's on the right and it shows the size of a person and it shows what look like giants this was an old map that was drawn okay from way back in the day now is an interesting piece of evidence that I have um talked about a few only I think once and it's in the new book I talk about it a lot but it's this idea of well what evidence do you have that they were actually around one of the best pieces of evidence that proves that giants in the Nephilim are real comes from one of the most popular figures in history that nobody that that that this certain aspect nobody knows about so you think of who first circumnavigated the world that we know of and the name is Magellan okay you have all kinds of famous stories about how he traveled around the world and mapped it and he was the first one and everyone's like oh that's that's great but they don't but there's more to the story if you actually look go look into some of the records that were that were done by the people that were part of the the party that that he that went with him on these journeys okay so you'd have Magellan who is the head of all this and then you had certain individuals who were recording the events that happened along the way okay now one of those individuals basically was talking about what Magellan and his crew encountered in Patagonia and it's so fascinating I encourage people please look into this and it's it's fascinating because nobody talks about it and it's not studied or known about it's one of these suppressed historical aspects that's happened now what so in in 1520 Magellan is trying to sail around the world and of course Panama Canal is not there yet so he's got to go around South America and while he's going through this area of Patagonia which is now called the Strait of Magellan by the way in that area it's all jumbled islands and glaciers and mountains they had to go inland to get food and water and while they went inland in this remote part of the world where nobody had ever been he they record in these in these in these documents in these writings that's why this this map is drawn this way they record that their party came under attack by they called giants giant men that some of them were over 10 feet tall that's in the records from Magellan and his party okay over 10 feet tall and they had to fight them and then flee from these from these regents these parts of the world that had not been conquered by armies still had these leftover remnants of these giants in the Nephilim and there's one more that's another another aspect of this it's amazing look into some of the Roman stories some of the stuff that's been written about the Roman armies when they pushed into Germania which is the region of German Germany now they had these famous regions where there was these massive forests these German forests that were no one had really conquered or pre-penetrated and there was different violent groups but there was also there was also remnants of there was Nephilim giants that were hiding there that one of these when they had to seek refuge in these different places and so the German in Germania the Romans have have records of how they're fighting giants some people don't know that but it's that's absolutely true that they were fighting some of these tall men that sometimes took many many Romans to have to take down and kill and of course Romans when the Roman Empire collapsed and and Constantine changed the whole thing over in Constantinople to turn into a Christian it was called the Holy Roman Empire after that point because it ended up taking Christianity and using it as part of its power they of course wiped all these records so nobody knows about it right right but there's this whole side of giants in the Nephilim it's very real in our history and it not only shows that giants are real but it shows that these Anunnaki beings were much taller than than human oids are today right right and also I want to ask you briefly about the elongated skulls now did some of them also have elongated skulls like you see that have been recently discovered yeah I definitely think that some of them had very tall tall heads and these abnormalities and I think one of the and there's another side to it I think some of the um cranium enlargement that you see is the idea that they knew that there were there were beings that were a lot more advanced than them that had given their ancient cultures wisdom and knowledge and so what they would do is they would try to mimic them by if you enlarge their cranium they would try to um show that they were smarter and almost like a stature thing of being more important so there's probably two two reasons why they they did that in my eyes and and Chris that Chris that leads us into what did we lose what where did all of this go and I um so I want to bring up of course all of the ancient megalithic structures we see on the earth and all of these incredible um locations such as gobekli tepi who have been radiocarbon dated to you know over 10,500 years old and and on the left left you have the enormous stone block at ballback lebanon that weighs 1,242 tons and we're told that was moved by pulleys slaves with pulleys okay again we couldn't I for the most part we could not move something like this today if if they if they could why don't you ever see large things being moved like that okay and not not even to mention regardless of that point all along again we're told that these cultures were primitive and nomadic it it doesn't make any sense okay this is how I I perceive all of this occurring we have to look at two distinct time periods of human history which are called the anti-diluvial okay or the post-diluvial and basically what we're talking about is before and after the flood the flood was very real it was a combination of the ice age which was ending which ended around 12 000 years ago rapidly rapidly melting very very quickly which by the way is nothing like we have today there was where I'm sitting right now I had one to two miles of ice above my head so we're talking about enormous um ice age that had melted extremely fast and then through other tectonic forces on the earth led to horrible destruction from volcanoes and tsunamis and that's what we think of as the flood and it wasn't the whole earth wasn't covered in water one time but there was disasters occurring all over the place and that's why we see so many the disappearance of so many of these of these animals right after the ice age like the power in the dramatic occurrences of these events between call it between 10 500 years ago and 12 800 years ago because I think there was multiple events that happened I think it was over the course of over a thousand years because of that all of these civilizations that had developed the Sumerian Kingless mentions specifically that in Sumer and in these Mesopotamian areas that kingship was directly lowered to these cities and then they arose cities like Charupak and Erudu whereas then they were destroyed and then after kingship was re-lowered again and you got these new this new development of civilization where you had erok and ur and kish were erected so we need to differentiate the fact that these these are completely different age structures and you can go look at the evidence for Erudu it's still there that's what was being compared as the Garden of Eden in the story as this being you know near the near the Persian Gulf and it was one of this incredible place that was destroyed you know well over 10 000 years ago okay and we still have evidence for that today that shows that so what does that mean well I don't again I want to make some points out I don't think that these Ononaki beings use technology to directly themselves build all these I do not think that an ancient aliens idea that ancient aliens built this I actually don't believe that what I think is real as of course ancient aliens are real but what's what I think was real was the idea that they then provided the knowledge to these civilizations for how to do it okay yes Thoth built the pyramids and was part of that but he wasn't part of every single structure and thing around the world there they just influenced these cultures on how to do it how to use either you know either they they somehow use some kind of a melting polymer to create some of these structures like you see in South America or they did some or they use some kind of a sound magnetism method to levitate and raise some of these things it was sound frequencies yes that's fascinating it was not like think of physical power of trying to lift him because that would have been impossible we have to get past that that idea and understand these two distinct timers now this is what I want to mention so after these advanced civilizations that you know are part of the pyramids and gobekatepe and all of them once they disappeared from these destruction destructive events you had kingship lowered and restarted again like I said in kish and these other places in Mesopotamia this is where it gets important those civilizations then became somewhat advanced as well but then you had conquering armies later go through and basically destroy a lot of the evidence that had been around for those so there's a lot of complex factors you have basically the floods and destruction destroys the advanced civilizations their knowledge and then it gets restarted and it's starting up again in a lot of different places especially Mesopotamia and then there was a decision made then there was certain aspects where I think these beings like you were brought up before where are they I think they left and I think a lot of this fell apart because they weren't here and these what they had jump started these bloodline kings and these armies became got out of control and they came through and they destroyed everything and they and through other influences of some of these other beings that stayed or continued influence they basically corrupted and destroyed our world and we're just trying to pick up the pieces of what already existed long ago because there had been decision made to hide all of this and to destroy it all through the Holy Roman Empire and a lot of other things they wanted to make sure that they could write the story so that certain beings could play the role of God like so God in the modern Bible is not God it's this these beings playing this role this deceitful role to try to hide all this from us that's why so many people weren't shocked when they start reading the book of Enoch and in the Nakamadi scriptures because it's so much goes so much further than what religion is telling us it actually answers questions rather than just leading to more confusion and and if more people could understand a lot of these things I think it would help in our evolution in our evolution of our consciousness and that's a perfect segue in the neck into the end here and and we're gonna talk about our consciousness and we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna discuss the end game here what's what is going on right now what where are we going are they you always get a sense that you know you're meant for so much more you get up you go to work you come home and you do it all over again every day you get a couple of days off or you know what they call relaxation truly free that's right free time right free time oh you get some free time right now yes I get free time why don't we have why don't we have a think about a reality where if our economy wasn't so based on manual labor and a lot of the things that we do are done in an automatic way and people's creativity in their in their energy was used for really important things and people would come together think about how they would change our how we even view our reality and how we view our existence and our purpose if someone thinks wow I'm meant for something a lot greater than just working at McDonald's my whole life and then and then you know having a couple years left when I'm retired before I die there's so much more to this and that's why you can't just tell someone this they have to go down this road to experience themselves when they start reading about all this and understanding the ancient history aspects and understanding what these cultures had tried to tell us all along that was then covered up and destroyed by a lot of sides of this that didn't want to be known you quickly learn what really defines our consciousness and what defines the experience here and everything changes everything you see everything you the way you perceive everything changes and like I said you start changing your life and now there's two terms I want to bring up the ancient Egyptians had very important terms that separates the different physical and non-physical states of our energy so they said in the Gnostics echoed basically which is just Egyptian knowledge they echoed the idea that the physical reality we see around us is the major controlling point that keeps us trapped okay because if our if our energy at its at its heart is based on a non-physical conscious eternal energy that is you could say it's stuck here and I want to just bring that up for a second one of some of the writings talk about how these beings created some kind of a soul trap system here where they could feed off of our energy by creating the means for which it was so hard to reach ascension that 99% of the beings that were there never could and so they were stuck in an incarnation cycle endlessly now what that means is if you're forced to kill someone in a war or you're forced to do bad things you because you're you're in a system here where you can't ascend beyond reaching your higher states of energy and leaving this cycle that's been developed here through taking advantage of this energy system of the planet and all the different means that they do if you're killing people and you're doing all these different acts in your lifetime you have to try to clear your conscience and clear those those actions before you can ascend that's what Osiris in Egypt all that all those teachings talk about look at how it says these pharaohs when they were going to the afterlife they had to have their conscious conscious way their heart weighed what did that mean they show scales if you have fear and unresolved things within yourself if you don't resolve them you'll never ever be able to reach higher states of energy and you'll be stuck in an incarnation cycle endlessly you keep and so what do they do well some of these beings who have been in control of this time of Pisces this zodiacal time of Pisces that have created such a negative polarity here before we go into what will be a very positive polarity in Aquarius it has to be an alternates okay before it happens though they were able to by the rules of balance that they follow to um to create the means for which because of the rules of free will here because we can decide what we want they they made the game so that look at today right now if you decide you don't want to pay taxes or get a job or do anything you go out in the middle of the wild somewhere you build a cabin you're like this is amazing i'm living up a lamb someday one day someone finds out you're out there and you go to jail because you haven't paid taxes in 10 years and why are you paying taxes you're not you're not working you're not doing anything because there's a there's a system in place here that's been designed where everybody has to follow this these rules of the system and that and those rules keep everybody in this certain state now if you if you then take that system and you create chaos all the time through orchestrating wars and all of these mass suffering and fear and dumbing us down through food and all these various means you can create a mean a way where yes hey you're free you have free will you can reach whatever state of energy you want here oh but i we've designed the game where it's going to be almost impossible to get there because of all the factors and things that come into play to do it it's this perfect way where you you have free the law the because of the laws of free will it forces us to essentially keep reincarnating over and over again and giving our energy because we don't in our in our short little mortality of only you know 120 years that our our cells have been capped at that they start to get degrade and we die um we we don't have a lot of time we don't have a lot of time to figure it out so we just keep doing this over and over again right until until our solar system enters into our galactic center of our milky way like right now and some of these beings knew that despite all this meant the energy slavery and all the things that could happen they knew that eventually we would reach these higher states of consciousness regardless of all the means that try to prevent it simply because when you reach the galactic center the energy is so much higher and your vibration goes up it's almost like a boiling pot of water on an oven that you cannot hold in any longer and that's where we are now at this point right now there's a war in our reality in our world to both condition people further hiding the truth and to try to create some kind of a you know draconian one world government where people lose all ability to have freedom to ever reach the highest state to to put a stop to all all what's going on right now and that's where we are right now i mean you hear all the time that we're living in some sort of simulation uh or like it's like a training ground for so that we can actually ascend it is it the call it a holographic universe it doesn't mean everything's fake it simply means everything comes down to certain levels strings of vibration it's called super string theory everything is is vibrating a certain rate and everything is being affected by the electromagnetic spectrum of another body another object the larger an object is the more electromagnetic energy it has to affect something else around it that's why when because we're these beings that have the electrical circuits flowing through our our water charge system when you your aura your energy you get around somebody else and you haven't fine tuned it you you get drawn into their state of energy that's giving example you're having a great day you feel happy you feel fantastic and you're walking down the street and you meet your neighbor and they're crying their eyes and they just said that their son was just hit by a car and they start telling you all the details what happens to your state of energy you match theirs don't you that's how we work we unless you can have the control of your energy and you can you can not allow others to impact you which is really hard you essentially the collective of humanity is this has this means where we all are functioning on almost the same level of energy because we're all in being influenced by those around us that's why wireless signals and all these things disrupt us on such a level and because of those factors so the Egyptians said getting back to it they said that they agree with the great in the nostics the great illusion of our of our reality that holds everyone back in the vice in the chains of our reincarnation cycle of energy over and over again is the illusion of the physical world because at its deepest level we're all just energy that's trying to reach higher states that's it energy trying to reach a higher state and so that's why they call the creative energy within us of higher energy called Ba energy and it's the Ba it's the energy of creation meanwhile the energy the illusion of the physical world if someone becomes so focused on that on just dominating the physical world they're almost they're just they're just caught in their own they're chasing their own tail if you think about it because that's just going to force them to be stuck in an endless cycle forever so right now to end out here we are with these higher states of vibration that you can't help but just happen that's why so many people are just one day they're just rapidly changing when they see something it's just triggering them and when you start learning this you know deep inside that there's so much more to us than we're being told and so it resonates and people go down this path and it changes them forever and that's going to be this going to happen on a faster and faster level now as you get to this point so here we go right now the human experiences is human experience here is realizing collectively that we're all part of something much greater part of something much more than just competing against each other and survival of fittest as an animal and that's why religion in many parts of the of the world like the united states in canada and in a lot of places in europe is starting to lose significant members while other places in the world may be gaining them in some ways a lot of the more industrialized industrialized countries in the world are rapidly losing religion because religious members because people are becoming spiritual because they're realizing what reality is and what they're part of and it's changing the the fundamentals of everything the day that they experience so i just want to i want to end out chris and just say i really appreciate our discussions and everything and um well matt that was awesome i mean like i said earlier the key to everyone understanding where we're going is looking back in the past and you do an awesome job of showing us what happened and uh matt thank you so much for coming on that was an amazing presentation and we're definitely going to have you back and uh definitely after the book we're we're very much looking forward to that thank you so much christ i really appreciate everything and i look forward to another discussion again