Think it's about time right? Yeah Okay, let's get started Hi there Thanks for coming out. It's a last day of the convention. It's an hour before lunch. So that takes real Confidence to come here at that time I'm Martin. I'm the lead DevOps Operations and support for for data and Today I will be telling a little bit about what for data exactly is who we are and How we work together with NetApp in a story. That's about hybrid and private deployments so Data is actually an internet of experience platform. It's an extension of Internet of Things. It's the new level that we have and You heard during the keynote Jonathan was talking about it's all about collecting and moving Data around so actually what an internet of things or an internet of experience platform does is It not only makes sure that we can collect that data it allows you to analyze data on top of it and Build decisions and make decisions out of it so It's a connected world. We're getting into a connected world. You can connect basically anything to anything Which allows for the creation of new and user experiences? on top of these platforms, we're starting to be able to Correlate data between a huge amount of different data sources Which opens up an entire new range of possibilities? the Verdita cloud Verdita is a cloud platform a cloud service a managed service and Like I said before it's a platform on which our customers can come in and build new type of applications and create new value-added services for their customers We have a set of client libraries that allow devices That are basically any type of device can be an iOS device can be an Android device can be a Linux Embedded device system on chip if you get into the blueprint We have libraries that you can put into those and you can start ingesting data from all those devices We use a published subscribe mechanism for our platform, which means that the communication is bidirectional You can ingest data from these devices But you can also single out a device or a group of devices and send information back to those We use MQTT for that and then we also have a set of a rich Public API's that allow you to retrieve the data and work with the data as you were In origin we serve a number of vertical industries So one of the industries that we can cater to is automotive where we can do stuff like Reading real-time information coming out of cars tracks We can store all that raw data in a historical fashion So for example, you could have dashboard information that you can retrieve in real-time Or you can have an historical overview on the performance of the car We do stuff around health as well where you can have a real-time overview of complex sensor data correlate that and Make decisions based on that With while also having the historical overview of a customer patients Health as to it is available Then another industry that is very active is The retail industry where indoor location based tracking is becoming more and more apparent and more and more to the forefront Where you can have services like or when you enter a shop, they know who we are They know what your interests are and they will serve you with Individual targeted advertising when you want it and when you need it So I'm going to show you a couple of use case which will show off the capabilities of a data platform I've got it sitting as a movie here, but I think we can take the chance and try to do a live demo Which actually gives you a better view on its capabilities So let me switch here so what you're currently looking at is a live multi-clouds platform Public cloud platform where you can see that we have a number of connected devices. We have about 180,000 connected devices on this system and you can see the historical overview Hour by hour, so it keeps updating real-time and you can also see the the view over time itself I'm not going to go through all of the demos that we've built on top of the platform to show you I'm just going to give you a small sampler if you're interested You can always contact us afterwards and you can get a better view on the platform capabilities But I did want to show you a couple of use cases that Are I think pretty important To give you a sense of what the capabilities of the platform actually is so for example, this is a automotive Fleet management demo that we have where we have a set of cars that is driving around We use an OBD dongle that is in the diagnostic port of the car. Every car has such a port It's got a Bluetooth interface the Bluetooth interface is reporting to the smartphone and the smartphone is sending that data back into the platform So what we can do here is we can actually have a view on one of these cars We can single out the car so you can actually see them driving we can Go to its dashboard and you will see the real-time Dashboard indicators of the car while you also have a visual representation of where the car is actually located due to a representation in Google Street view and Another thing that's quite nice to notice is that we're also recording The driver's heart signal. This is due to a partnership with a company called the sensors That retrieves the heart signal from the driver It's a hard signal not a beats per minute which says which means it's granular enough to identify The person driving the car and which allows for advanced analytics such as detecting Very well in advance 10 15 minutes in advance if a driver is going to fall asleep. Yes, you know So this is the real-time capability you can also go back in the historical view Where you can check out the trips that this vehicle has made in the past and Once you have that information available It will allow you to do things like cost calculations in order to See where the car has been and how much it actually consumed And I think here the gods of demos are interfering a little bit And so let me refresh that so I think I just lost my connection Yeah, we did so here we're back So let's try the historical view again so here you have the historical view and You can do a cost calculation based on the fuel consumption of the car per trip The duration you can go back and check its route one of the more interesting things you can also go and check the performance Of the trip meaning that all the statistics coming out of the engine block are Reported as raw data and stored into the platform for indefinite Duration one of the really good benefits is you can go to your car dealership and say I have a problem They will tell you we're not noticing anything and you say oh look at the details It happened during that time and this is the problem that I was actually seeing Okay So it's a nice demo with we found out that yeah There's actually a lot of people that can do something similar to this So how do we differentiate us? One of the things that for data in its origin always had was scalability We did not take the approach where we have a solution that we're trying to scale out Possibly to millions of devices now we started off with an architecture that allowed us to start from millions of devices and skill potentially to billion of devices so therefore we did another implementation of this and Currently what you will see is we have about 300,000 cars driving around that we can actually track individually Where is this data coming from people are kind enough to publish their trip data to open street map? We've taken in the data and we're replaying it to a set of simulators Which gives us the possibility? To give you this very nice feature again. It's not our intention to build these applications These are applications that are intended to be built by our customers that create added value on top of the platform Specifically for them. So this is another view that you have where we use octagonals So the previous one of you that you had was a heat map according to the density of the cars that we're driving Here you will have a view that combines the actual speed Of the cars in combination with the density of the cars that you have driving around So cars in this area 107 average speed 0.38 kilometers meaning most of them are actually standing still it's nighttime. So yeah, that kind of makes sense Let's go a little bit. Let's dig a little bit deeper and at a certain level. You actually start seeing The individual cars and you can see the cars driving around Our design is modular meaning that we're using a different database as the one that I was using for the previous Demo Which also shows the flexibility of the platform in order to create This overview. So here again, you can track all the statistics of a single car And you can see it's actual if if I'm fast enough to grab one of them No, I'm not. So let's try it again Okay Anyway, I think you get the picture The the statistics that we've shown before is exactly. Okay. Here we go So you can see the route and you can see all the engine statistics In time series based overview for each of these devices Okay, so that's a little bit of you on the capabilities of the platform We have others we have health demos. We have anti-churn demos Built on top of it, but I think you get the drift I think you get the idea of the capabilities of the system so far Now, how do we manage this? That's That's a big question to hold on and that's this thing Okay So we when we set forth to actually manage this platform We we said we gave ourselves Base of requirements that we had to adhere to first of all, we had to be cloud agnostic We had to be capable of deploying in any type of cloud To this day we support IBM software we support Amazon we support open stack And we're fairly confident that we can build drivers for any other cloud provider out there in a couple of weeks Flexibility and elasticity so We did not want to be bound by a single type of solution We wanted to be able to mix and match The components that we needed because every customer is different every customer has its own Use case so we've got the pay-as-you-go model with a multi-tenant platform here But we also wanted the capability that if a customer wants on-prem local We can provide as well and we also wanted to view that if you need a performance system You want to choose between performance and scaling why it's being elastic you should have that as well So bad metal versus VM On-prem versus public cloud all this needed to be supported in a single system Managed versus firefights very important. We took a DevOps approach to the implementation meaning that we wanted to serve our Development community as well as our support community as well as a customer community for one single point of view and to end I Still think in the industry we need to have much more focus on The end goal being we're not looking only at infrastructure we're looking at solutions for customers and You can look at a solution from a customer point of view and you can look at a solution Delivery point of view and it needs to be seamless throughout the chain So that's what we set out to do only in that way. You can actually manage a huge platform With a very small set of resources. That's the only way you can do that and The good thing is I heard a lot of talks about microservices containerization So it seems that like indeed we're moving in that direction, but I still think it's the entire flow. That's important That's what that's where we should set our goal okay The special view on Our deployed solution so on the left-hand side you see where the devices are actually reporting the data and when the devices Where we're sending the data to Once you get past the protocol adapter Which terminates your incoming message? It sends it on to the message queue from that moment in time. We will not lose your data It is stored We stored data hot for a month and we also store it in an archive and We can store it a couple of years. We can store it indefinitely That's up to the customer to decide but as long as you want you have all your data So if you want to do analytics on top of that and at one point in time you get to a conclusion Okay, I was looking for the wrong thing. I want to revisit all my data You can do that. You can just from your object store Gather that information back into the system and do an analytics on top of it with service such as spark Which is also something that we offer No, I think Covered most of this so the ver data deployment models as I said we have a full Public offering a multi-tenant offering where you pay as you grow Which is cloud agnostic can be deployed on any type of public cloud and you can have Storage solutions behind it that fit your need We then have the hybrid the puddle deployment model where we actually have two options You have the option that I think is most relevant to most users where you have a an enterprise or or Large corporation that actually already has its own infrastructure and is ingesting data from its own devices and Wants to extend that capability or needs to extend that capability with device data coming from the internet so then you go to the hybrid model where your Messaging infrastructure is located publicly ingesting all the public data coming into the system and Your data back-end is on-prem locally taking care of all your data making sure that all your data is in adherence with your privacy and data concerns governed and In the meantime you can also ingest data from within your intra net Possibility so it's covering all the angles why you still have full control over your data locality and your data governance Then you have the other option where you decide I want the flexibility to really scale out Using VMs. I'm using the compute From the public cloud, but I still want my data local so you can have your storage solution locally While you use the compute the compute from the cloud And then you have the private Managed service so you have the convenience of a full Private system while you still maintain all the benefits benefits from a managed system Like the elastic healing the self-healing the elastic scaling From the managed services So how is it done? we basically Took open stack and Expanded on top of it making it into a multi-cloud management platform Where we directly go to the APIs of the different cloud providers and start provisioning the system on each of these clouds products Very important distinction is that we don't look at it point of infrastructure. We look at a point of Service delivered service. So we take care of the infrastructure. We take care of the application We take care of the the the health of the applications on top of that all this on top built on top of an open stack solution so the hybrid solution model a little bit the same Same feet where we directly go to the cloud APIs so the the the The cloud provider has its own API Open stack has its own API and manager on top of that and so you can see the high-provider Details through it, but the actual provisioning the actual governance of the infrastructure is done through the multi-cloud manager same thing for the private solution deployment where where we go to a flex spot and provision The services on top of that So why open stack and why net up? We started on this road About a year ago a little bit over a year ago where we decided that open stack already had a lot of The capabilities of what we needed It stopped at the infrastructure layer, but at least up until that part. It all made sense What we were seeing So with and it was also a very nicely compartmentalized in different services which made it very easy for us to integrate whatever we needed on top of that And yeah, the usage of the APIs you can deploy open stack pretty much anywhere. So that made it a very good generic solution Then the value of the the net up augmented open stack services So what is very important to realize is that the dynamics of a public cloud environment are Very different from the dynamics of a private cloud deployment in what sense? for example, you don't care or You want to care, but you cannot about as a lace in a public cloud They're not giving you any as a lace in public cloud So but you you can skill in pretty much infinitely So if something goes wrong, you can have other resources you can go to other data centers things like that When you look at the private clouds deployment, that's typically not there People only want the infrastructure that they need in a private cloud deployment meaning that it becomes much more vulnerable to defects things like that So it absolutely makes sense to go for an enterprise solution as opposed to just having a bunch of commodity hardware and scaling out That's the two approaches you can take you can say, okay, I really don't want to care But this enterprise great thing, but then you will have to make sure that you have enough commodity hardware to cover all your bases Frankly that creates an overhead in terms of your operations and you will have to do a lot more stuff So it kind of makes sense to go for an enterprise solution if you go for a private cloud there Compliance and security data locality data governance Very important You want to be able to state that you exactly know where your data is what it does And that it's it's actually under data governance control Consistent performance and as a lace Usually when you go to towards an enterprise system, it's validated. It's tested You know exactly what you get You know what performance you should expect from it as opposed again to commodity hardware Where you're usually mixing different systems together with each other. You will end up with a lot of issues if you scale Beyond the certain point And full control over your private and hybrid clouds One of the things you want to be able to do in a private solution for sure is you want to be able to direct where your resources go Which is something That thanks to the augmented surface again on and that place is pretty easy to do Okay, I will give you a short demo of the Vredetta multi-cloud manager I will then show you a deployment of a hybrid model using VPC and Deployment on how the deployment on an X on a flex pot actually happens A few things I need to tell you is that what we've built on top of open stack Raises the view on the system. So we've actually started from release creation So within the platform, I'm going to decide to create a new software release When I click on the button, what actually happens behind the scenes is that I branch all my source code I take all my attributes. I take my binaries I take my orchestration cookbooks and recipes and I bundle it together in a release Once that's done, I can provision my cloud providers that I'm going to be using in the system I can have different. I can use different credentials if you want to do if you want to switch between accounts I create master images from the system in order to have a base that's under my control from where I want to start off from You create the flavors that are Correspondent to the different cloud providers You create facets. What is a facet is facet is basically a VM that has a very specific role So what you do is you create a facet and you start building your recipes You put your recipes in your facet and it's Then becomes a certain VM role On top of that what we needed was the view from a perspective of clusters For example, if you use a GFS, you've got the naming nodes. You've got the data node. They all serve a Single application. So you want to group those facets into clusters. So the concept of clusters was introduced And above that you have the concept of an environment an environment is a controlled Service deployment What does it mean? It's a set of capabilities a set of clusters that come together That are Orchestrated in such a way that they combine a single service identity So for data as a platform is one of those services We have another service park as a service that we do similarly to that And I will now show you a little bit of what this multi cloud manager actually looks like so as you can see it's it's very similar to a vanilla Open stack deployment with the The main difference that there's an extra tap in there. That says for data And under for data you can find the concepts back that I just mentioned. So under configuration You will get to decide which cloud providers which master images which facets which flavors You are going to have you can set attributes for your machines But above that you have the release creation where you create your software releases in You can do event management. You can track who did what in the service and here You have an actual overview of the environments that we currently have environments So for example, one of the environments in here is our actual development environment So we've also added life cycle management to the capabilities in the sense that we Launch our development environment every day from scratch At six in the morning and we break it down at eight in the evening when the developers are gonna have gone home like that we save a lot of money and we Pressure the developers into making sure that stuff works because the next morning the platform needs to come up again and work for everybody So from an operational point of view very good benefit So I can just add an environment here It's both Lee shows you a very nice name because I've been told that I'm terrible at picking names So we included something that gives you a name for you So summer snow There you go, and I can start adding instances I can Select my cloud provider. I can select the data center that you want to go to I Can select the facet the role that the VM is actually going to play I Can select the amount of VMs that I want to launch And I can also select the release that I wanted to play So I can just add one of these so that's an EC2 instance I can add another instance Let's make this one a software instance Same software lease and Then I will add one more which is then how we deploy on a flag spot by using an open stack implementation And here you go. So I've now I have three instances in my environment So all the security groups are set for this environment to behave as one coherent part So I can now start the environment Some of the things I can do so you will know The system will now go out to the different cloud providers request the VMs Once that done when you once you get confirmation It will try to SSH into the machines once it's done that it will start your orchestration in order to build the applications on top That you need to to get into that environment Some other things that you can do is if you decide to change the firewalls you can you can Re-provision the firewalls directly through it. You can kick the system meaning that if I change my software release I just have to kick the system. I don't have to rebuild the entire VM It just rebuilds the software on top of it and I can obviously set the software release of each of the components that I want Now if if you go into a production environment that we have You will see that these environments are actually quite big. There's a whole set of instances here It's it's very difficult if I want to create a new environment to do that So I'm not going to do that. What I will do is I will take that production environment. I will duplicate it I will select a different cloud provider for it and a different data center and I Will just duplicate that environment Which one was it? red So when I click in here, you will see that we have the and the entire new environment And I just need to start it and I have a duplicate it Complete environment. So all the settings all the attributes that are dependent on an environment have been set and have been met according to Now let's go back to our previous I think it was black cloud No, it's not black cloud It's the problem when you start creating all these So there you go Should have another beer. That's usually helps Okay, so Now we're on the chef run. So where open stack stops is with the creation of your infrastructure This takes it to the next level. This means that What it actually means to be active Here is that the application is up and running. It's healthy and that is what Active means you also have the monitoring capabilities associated with it You can see the last events that have happened on it and you can actually Once the machines are active you can download the keys for it if you have the The necessary security Role you can download the key and you can go directly into the machine if needed So each of the machines that we use has a different SSH key So security is governed as well by them. So that's that part. Let's go To the monitoring part maybe a little bit So when I go in here You will see that actually I will get an overview. So we use monet an open source packet as well And what it does is it resolves all the dependencies that the applications have on each other It checks them and only then will the application be deemed to be operational And if needed will make we will take actions to rectify any issues So I will let the Machines actually launch Let's see. Maybe there are already some active So, yeah, so the open stack based one is currently already active and the other two machines are Still building so that's all it takes to build a hybrid cloud environment in a system based on this We've also so this is for a normal hybrid environment We've also done stuff around VPC That was a proof concept that we've done Where we actually use net app and PS private storage that's attached So not a private storage which is on-prem That you can then use in combination with your compute in the cloud So It's this one, I guess See if I can actually play the video. So what you will see happen here is that You go into the configuration and you go you have to import a VPC. That's an Amazon VPC Once that VPC is imported You will be able to use that in your environments So here you see the actual creation of that So you can actually see that it's the same value as what the net app NPS Manager shows you Once that is imported you can then spin up machines that are actually going to use volumes of that NPS part in your environment Here you go. Now. It's as easy as in the environment selecting the facets that you need When you create a facets, you're going to say that you have the VPC capability and That you're going to attach the volumes accordingly So a storage type NPS We set the number of machines. So it's a Cassandra cluster So Cassandra cluster It makes sense to be able to take snapshots of your Cassandra as a backup and to be able to restore from it So that's all it basically takes for that Now Let's first check on our environment So for our environment two out of three of the services have already becoming have already become active The third cloud provider is still provisioning the machine and will deploy Once it is done that again, this is an application point of view That means that active means the application is a fully functional and running on top of the platform so in conclusion why use a flex pot for your private and Hybrid deployments you want to have an enterprise great solution in place in order to Achieve maximum efficiency behind it if you use commodity hardware Usually you're going to run into problems In terms of manageability of that infrastructure in terms of that you are going to have to work around the fact that There is always in contention between the amount of Resources that you have in a private cloud as opposed to what you actually need Also, it becomes a lot easier in terms of customer compliancy data locality And you have full control over your private cloud infrastructure and data Okay That's a little bit in a nutshell what we do and how we do it So if you have any further questions I'm open to suggestions No questions What are some of the benefits of having using multiple cloud providers in an application like you're in your example? Okay, the benefit of using multiple cloud providers is that you're not tied into a single vendor You can easily switch over or you can actually combine them In terms of resilience a certain cloud providers Have less performance Definitely the more immature ones and you want to be able to go to one of the bigger ones to Make sure that your high availability is covered like that Obviously, there is a cost associated with that as well in terms of latency and Architecture around it. So you have to be very careful how you do that But that's the main benefit behind it Any other questions? No, then I would like to thank you and enjoy your lunch Thank you


Hey, this is Brett, and this, 2020 Ram 1500 Crew Cab Short Box Big Horn Level 2 Sport is stock number 12638ZA. We are here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. You're new and used light-duty truck and Ram headquarters. This 2020 Ram 1500 has the 5.7-liter V8 Hemi engine. This truck has been fully-safetyed and inspected by our service shop per the state of Wisconsin inspection process. It has a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off. This truck is 100% ready to go. We're going to go all the way around on this truck. Start it up. Take a look under the hood. Take a look underneath the truck in this video. Diamond black is the color, and we shoot all of our videos in 1080p, 60 frames per second. So if you have HD capabilities on your computer, tablet, smartphone, or television, I highly recommend turning them on right now because it is your best way to check out the quality, condition, options, and cleanliness of the truck before seeing it in person. And if you like the video and how we do things here at Summit Automotive in the upper right-hand part of the screen is a subscribe button to our YouTube channel. Consider clicking that and then click the bell notifications and you'll get updates every time we do these videos of our new and used inventory here at Summit Automotive. So this one comes with the 20-inch factory alloy rims with the chrome covers, and it has Goodyear Wrangler 275 55R20 tires. And these tires are brand new. You can still see the little wear knobs there. We put those on in our safety inspection. Also brand new tires all the way around. Front fenders in excellent condition. I didn't see any dents or dings on there. Headlight lenses are nice and clear. 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And you can make a smart and informed buying decision from wherever you're at. And if this video helps you make that decision, let your salesman know that you saw the video that it was helpful and that Brett sent you. Back rim is in nice shape as well. And the back tires are brand new, too. You do get the plastic wheel well liners back here, which keeps your frame and underbody looking good for longer. I didn't see any corrosion on the frame. Cab corners, lower rockers all look good. And it comes with the factory painted step bars. Coming around to the back, you'll notice that it does have the sport sticker on there. That's just a decal. If you didn't want it on, you could always get that off pretty easy. But the sport package gives you the painted bumpers. You get the parking sensors back here as well, the chrome tip dual exhaust and full towing package, which includes receiver hitch four pin and seven pin wiring. This one does come with a truck sport by Truxedo soft tonneau cover. 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You do get two USBs, two USB-Cs, and an Augs jack there, keyless entry with remote start, get that sliding cup holder and storage tray, 115 volt, 400 watt plug-in down there, and a place to set your cell phone if you don't want to set it in the cup holders. Passenger side format and seat are in excellent condition as well, no rips or tears, and the headliner is in very nice condition too. You do get map lights, power sliding rear window button, and home link buttons for your garage door security systems, and lighting systems does have an auto-dimming mirror as well. And we'll check out the back seats, and then start it up and take a look under the hood. Back seats are just as clean as the front seats, no rips or tears back here, it does have the latch child safety system. For any child car seats you may have power sliding rear window with the built-in rude frost, and on the crew cabs you get the three different spots for latch systems. 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No, other than the local bank that were poured out by the one from Mars, yeah, that's crazy. One of the banks just got poured out in the process. You know, what's that for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you surprised on that? Probably just wrong. Chair Owen, it's 1.30. Chair Owen, it's 1.30 and all the members that are going to be present are here. I'd like to call the March 27th 2023 Housing Authority regular meeting to order. Members of the public may view and listen to meeting as noted on the city's website and as noted on the agenda. As a matter of housekeeping, I'd like to remind commissioners to keep their microphones muted unless they are speaking. The City of Santa Rosa is committed to creating a safe and inclusive environment free from disruption. We will not tolerate any hateful speech or actions and we're well staffed to monitor that everyone is participating respectfully or they will be removed. If necessary, we will also immediately end the meeting. Clerk, please explain how public comments will be heard at today's meeting. At each agenda item after the item is presented, the chair will ask for housing authority commissioner comments. After the commissioner comments, the chair will open the item for public comment. The chair will first call in person public comments and then will request public comments from those participating via Zoom. For members of the public joining the meeting via Zoom, you will be participating as an attendee. Your microphone and camera will be muted. If you are calling in from a telephone and choose to speak during the public comments portion of today's agenda, for privacy concerns, the host will be renaming your viewable phone number to resident and the last four digits of your phone number. 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If you provide a live public comment on an agenda item, but also submitted an email, your email public comment will not be read during the meeting. Additionally, there is one public comment period on today's agenda to speak on non-agenda matters, item six. This is the time when any person may address the housing authority on matters not listed on this agenda, but which are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the housing authority. And let me correct that. That's item five. Thank you. I'd now ask for the clerk for a roll call. Okay, we'll now do a roll call. We will start with Commissioner Newton. Present. Commissioner Smith. Here. Commissioner Rawhouser. Present. Commissioner LePenna. Here. I should say Vice Chair LePenna. Commissioner Downey is absent. Commissioner McWhorter is also absent. And Chair Owen. Present. Let the record reflect that all commissioners are present with the exception of Commissioner Downey and Commissioner McWhorter. Thank you. We're going to move to item three, which is statements of abstention. Are any commissioners abstaining from any items today? Hearing none, we'll move on to item four, which is normally study session. I want to note that there are no study session items onto the agenda today. We'll move on to item five, which is public comments on non-agenda items. I ask the clerk to explain how this process works. Now taking public comments on item five. We will begin with comments from those attending in-person in chambers. Once we have finished with in-person comments, we will hear comments for those participating via Zoom. If you wish to make comment via Zoom, please raise your hand. If you're dialing in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. So if you would go to the podium. Okay. Hello. Can I state your name for the record? If you so choose. County Housing Advocacy Group in existence for over 25 years. Today I wanted to speak with you after congratulating your new members. All of you that are here, thank you for your opportunities to volunteer and help this community in our times of need. You know, housing authority is usually brought into existence because you have a need for affordable housing. We have been in existence for close to 60 years knowing that we have always needed more affordable housing here in Santa Rosa. Today I bring forward to you an idea that could help you with your efforts to provide more affordable housing. First I'll start off with the fact that the United States Department of Veterans Affairs has released a press release stating that that agency wants to put forward lots of money to provide at least 38,000 housing slots for homeless veterans. That should be a priority in this community because we already have a program going forward with the Housing Urban Development Veterans Affairs Support of Housing vouchers. So now that I've brought that up to you, please look into it deeper on your time. My time is really limited here. I wanted to express to you something that was written about over a year ago for the North Bay Biz Magazine. It was called SAVES. Now I know you don't like to have more acronyms probably, but this is an important acronym for you to keep in mind. SAVES, Seniors and Veterans Extended Stay Suites. Utilizing the model that the commercial business people are using for new hotels, you could get small housing units up as extended stay suites for veterans and seniors following a model of extended stay suites America, holiday and extended stay suites, extended stay Marriott. They've been using this model for years to get their housing up. Just down the street here, the new AC hotel was built in less than two years using modular building up and running. Down the street, La Quinta on Santa Rosa Avenue, modular building up and running in two years. If you adopt a new model where you look at this as if you could get housing in, not just as a governmental public housing type project, but more based on a commercial model, you could get these things in there. As a matter of fact, local government agencies have been buying hotels and turning them into housing for those folks that need it. That happened to the travel lodge down here and up here the Astro Motel was used for a while for these homeless folks. So the model is already here. We just need new leadership. You're here now. Let's go for it and get these problems solved within my lifetime. I've been around as long as the House and Authority. I would hope that you could solve all these problems. Thank you. Any other comments from the chamber? Chair Owen, it appears we have no further public comments on this item in person. We'll move to any public comments on Zoom. Chair Owen, we have no hands raised for public comment. Moving on from there, do we have any e-mail public comments? We have no public or we have no e-mail comments on this item. Thank you very much. We're going to move on to item six, which is approval of minutes. Do we need the commissioners have any comments on the minutes? Council, we don't need to vote on this, do we? Just approve. So seeing no comments on this, we'll go ahead and approve the minutes for our last meeting on February 27th. Moving right along for chairperson or commissioner reports. Do we have any reports from any of the commissioners? Okay. We're cruising right through this agenda. I have nothing right now. Any committee reports. And we actually do not have any committees set up at this time. So we'll move on to item nine. Yes, I'm sorry. Go ahead. What kind of committees would we have if we were to be setting up? We've had some ad hoc committees in the past, but I'm not recalling what committees we've had. And unfortunately. Yes. Hi, I'm Kate Gould, my administrative services officer filling in for Megan Bassinger today. So there are meetings. I'm sorry. Committee meetings for when there's a notice of funding availability sometimes that's one. And then I in the past, there have been nominating committees when we're looking for a new chair and vice chair. Those are a couple of examples. Thank you, Kate. Yeah, I forgot about that. Normally the NOFA comes up. Funding availability. So we will move to item nine for executive director reports and committee items. And today we have a cake old fight for that. Thank you. Hi, everyone. Again, we have one item, which is a communication item that's on every month. It's the pending affordable housing project pipeline update. And if the memo is here and Nicole Delfi or in Tino is here if you have any questions. Do we need commissioners have any questions on the pipeline report? Please go ahead. Good afternoon, Jeremy Newton. Thanks for putting this together. Are there any projects on here that are sort of problem children that you want to highlight at all as things that need our attention? There's just a bunch on here. Thanks. Hi, good afternoon. Nicole Delfi or in Tino housing and community services manager for the housing trust. We don't have any problem developments on this list. The intent of this list is to let the housing authority know all of our pending projects, whether or not the housing authority has funds in them. Some of these projects just have density bonus agreements or housing allocation plan contracts. But these are, this is an informational list on what is pending in the community, either in construction, recently completed or in the pre-development pipeline. Sounds good. Thanks. Any other questions from commissioners? Yes, I have one on the section, the fully funded projects awaiting permits of financing closing. So what does this mean? What is holding up the financing to get the project going? Sure. So for affordable housing developments, they typically have to leverage multiple different funding sources in order to get enough money committed to get to construction. So a project may have to apply for the state on, for example, the multi-family housing program, which has applications out once a year. So they may be waiting for the application cycle or for a tax credit cycle to apply and then be awarded for funding. And the developers will have to go through this cycle for each different funding source, several only available once a year. Yeah, Jeff, I have one. Sure, go ahead. These are all new projects, an existing project. What about when we remodel or refurbish the units? Where is that shown? We have on page two the funded acquisition, preservation, and or rehabilitation. There are those two recent projects that were awarded rehabilitation funds in the last year. That's visual light senior apartments and Parkwood apartments that have been funded recently for rehabilitation. One question on financing. With everything happening at the state level with the budgets and in Washington, D.C., are there, are you forecasting any shortfall of funding to come as a result of the financial situation in the politics in D.C.? Yeah, we're definitely watching as that unfolds. At this point, we have not been made aware of any budgetary restraints that have been made to those programs that our developers seek out. Any other questions from commissioners? I do have one question. MHP from the state, what is the timing on that one that's going to go through? Because I see the projects that are waiting on financing, that's a big chunk of money that they would be looking at. May and then June? I would have to look at that. I believe the timeframe may have slipped this year for the state. It varies. It's typically in the spring. In the spring, we're going to be going a little bit later than anticipated with applications being due in May. I believe the state released a super-NOFA to encompass multiple funding sources this year. But we could come back with that information on the timing for MHP, if you'd like. Thank you. And then our NOFA would be going out when this year? So we typically offer it in the spring in order to make awards for the funding that is available in the following July 1st budget cycle. We anticipate coming with a study session, hopefully in the April Housing Authority meeting to discuss those funds and make that solicitation available. Thank you. I was just trying to line up federal to state to us and see how we can get these projects down at the bottom up and moving. Are there any other questions from commissioners? I just had one question. For clarification as to what does site work density bonus agreement only mean? Sure. So when it says density bonus agreement only, that means the Housing Authority has not committed loan funds to that project. As part of the entitlement process through the Planning and Economic Development Department, the project has applied for a density bonus, which is asking to build more sites, more units on site than the zoning agreement. So we are now making a concession for a certain number of affordable units being built in order to get that higher density. And site work is they are currently under construction. They are working on, you know, grading, paving, those underground utilities, those type of pre-development work before the structures start to go up. Some of these projects, if they go long on their construction period, are they fine or are they just given a grace period to complete with their construction? Sure. There's definitely factors that come up during construction that, for example, the rain in January that we had that will extend that period. If there's a project that has received a loan from the Housing Authority, there is established construction commencement and completion dates in the resolutions that have been made in the states. They let us know ahead of time and we go ahead and determine if a construction extension is warranted. And those are authorized by the Executive Director. I have one question. When all these projects that are under construction are completed, do we get some kind of checkbox from the state to say we've built what we told you we're going to build and, you know, they're going to have a checkbox and you read these things and it's all new to me so I thought I'd ask the question, you know, how does it work for us to look good for the state? Sure. So our completed projects, once the building permits are finaled, the Planning and Economic Development Department reports out on our RENA goals and achievements each year. So that's the Regional Housing Needs Assessment that we've built. So that is how we as a city demonstrate our success in meeting the goal number of units produced in each income category. And what's the process once these projects are complete for approving people to move in there because I know it's always they're getting subsidies, you know, how does that work? Are they, are we approving people, you know, pending the completion? Sure. So we have two compliance technicians in the Housing Trust Division who approve the tenant income certifications for move-ins for projects that have housing authority loans or density bonus agreements. Questions from commissioners? Thank you very much. Appreciate it. This is always an important part of our meetings that show where we are and how we're progressing. Yes, we'll move to public comment on this item. We're now taking public comments on item nine. We will begin with comments for those attending in person chambers once we've finished with in person comments. We'll hear comments for those participating via Zoom. If you wish to make comment via Zoom, please raise your hand. If you dial in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. One moment. One moment. So hello. You'll be able to state that you have three minutes to make your comment. Can you see the timer? OK, your time begins now. I appreciate that you've been able to have this information given to you. I want you to take into account that it's very important that you new commissioners understand some of the historical background to the development and the pipeline processes that has worked for many decades here. Over in Roseland, we have a lot of housing that's been subsidized by the city of Santa Rosa. And some people feel it's perhaps an overburden. It has come forward through a process that some feel is focused and steering specifically these types of projects into Roseland. You have one on your pipeline now on Burbank Avenue, known as Burbank Avenue Apartments in the past. Crossroads was built there on Belview Avenue, taking them over 13 years to get there. And Lantana was built out on what's now called South Dutton at Belview Avenue. And that took it about 13 years also. These projects aren't necessarily fast. But one of the problems that arises is sometimes developers in their enthusiasm to get a density bonus may do what car dealers do. It's called a bait and bait. It's let's get these folks, you being the customers in a way, to come forward and make your agreement and then down the road it will turn out different. One specific example which you should research goes back to what's called Belview Ranch on Herne Avenue at Stony Point. 30 years ago the southwest area plan was put forward by the city of Santa Rosa in order to get more housing in that area. They went forward with a developer by the name of Milton Tuxhorn and his company Benjamin Tuxhorn. They were going to put in 64 units of affordable rental housing at that project. Once they got their approvals they switched it up and said we can't build these apartments like we said we would so we're going to find something else. Instead of them doing it at their cost they put it off and they didn't even build them as apartments. They became what are called self-help ownership units. Now that's happened more than once. It happened down at Lantana. Those were supposed to be apartments also. Instead they're self-help affordable ownership units. But the housing authority was brought into existence because the number one thing we need in this community is affordable residential rental units. That's what's most needed especially for people at extremely low income, very low income, low income and then just the regular working folks. Keep it in mind. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have any other public comment? The chambers? Chair, it appears we have no further in-person public comments for this item. Thank you. Any comments on via zoom? Chair, I see no hands raised in zoom. Thank you. Do we have any e-mail comments? Chair, we have no e-mail public comments for this item. Thank you. We'll move on to item 10 which is consent items and note there are no consent items on today's agenda. Number 11 is report items and again there are no report items on this agenda. We'll now move to public hearing which is the adoption of public housing agency plans and refer that to Julie Garan and the program specialist. Thank you. It takes us just a moment to get the presentation set up on zoom. Good afternoon conditioners. My name is Julie Garan and I'm a program specialist with the city of Santa Rosa. Sorry, let me get a little closer. Good afternoon. My name is Julie Garan and I'm a program specialist with housing and community services. Today I'll be presenting on the annual public housing agency plan for fiscal year 2023-2024 and this item is a public hearing. The purpose of this housing authority item is two-fold. We will be appointing the resident advisory board composed of any and all tenant commissioners and we will be reviewing and improving the annual PHA plan which PHA stands for public housing agency. So the annual PHA plan is part of the larger PHA five-year plan. Today we are reviewing and approving the PHA annual plan for fiscal year 23-24. Both the annual PHA plan and the five-year plan are included in your agenda packet and both of the plans are HUD requirements for the administration of the housing choice voucher program. So the annual plan outlines the resources and strategies utilized to meet the housing choice voucher program goals and it also provides an update on progress that we have made towards meeting the goals outlined in the five-year PHA plan. The PHA annual plan is reviewed by a resident advisory board and the public and it is approved by the board of commissioners and submitted to HUD. It's submitted with any comments received as well. So a little bit about the annual plan for fiscal year 2023-24. The housing authorities project based voucher or PVV program leased up two additional sites in the past year. They leased up river city senior apartments which included 19 units of HUD-VASH project based vouchers and it was a total of 54 total, excuse me, affordable units. They also leased up the lindituna senior apartments which was 13 units of project-based vouchers and 26 total affordable units. Coming down on the pipeline we have two new construction projects anticipated for completion in the summer of 2023 including Caritas homes phase one and 35-75 phase one on the site of the former journey's end. So Caritas homes phase one has 30 project-based vouchers and 35-75 phase one has 17 project-based vouchers. And the housing authority continues to administer the emergency housing voucher program with a total of 131 vouchers. So the housing authority received an additional 10 HUD-VASH and 12 standard housing choice vouchers and we will continue to apply for additional voucher allocations, special programs and other resources as they are made available. We have also integrated technology to further improve the efficiency and accessibility for participants and owners including converting to an electronic wait list and multiple website improvements. The resident advisory board reviews the annual PHA plan and may provide comment. Again those comments are included in the PHA plan and may be submitted to HUD. Housing authorities like the Santa Rosa Housing Authority that do not own or operate public housing do not have formal resident councils and may establish their own resident advisory board policies. The Santa Rosa Housing Authority board of commissioners includes two tenant commissioners and a resolution 1129 dated January 22, 2001 establishes the two tenant commissioners as the resident advisory board serving concurrently as tenant commissioners and the resident advisory board. So finally it is recommended by the department of housing and community services that the housing authority by resolution appoint any and all housing authority commissioners who are also housing choice voucher program participants as the resident advisory board to represent the interests of those served by members of the community. In addition to that the commissioners adopted the annual public housing agency plan or PHA plan for fiscal year 2023-2024 as required by the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development HUD for local administration of the housing choice voucher program. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have any questions from commissioners? Go ahead. So we can probably talk some of these up to dumb questions from the new guy but so just bear with me for a second but going back to slide three where we kind of break down the different sources of funding there and the vouchers. In particular the VASH vouchers where I understand it that's a certain percentage of the housing choice vouchers can be allotted as a separate category from our regular housing choice vouchers and they're awarded on their own basis and so now with the addition of the 10 we're up to 429 total in addition to the number of VASH vouchers that we're going to need and use. So VASH vouchers are a separate category from our regular housing choice vouchers and we're up to 429 total. Yes. Okay so that's separate from the allotment of housing choice vouchers that come from HUD. Where do these come from and how do we determine the need? Sure they also come from HUD but the way that tenants are referred to our agency is different. The tenants work with those tenants they refer those potential tenants to us. Once they have a voucher they work with their housing technician and then they also have veterans affairs case worker. Okay so the VA sort of screens these veterans and determines that they're eligible for a VASH voucher and then that sort of comes out. Yes our office communicates regularly with the VA about potential tenants coming to get a new voucher to get a VASH voucher and then ongoing with existing clients as well. Okay great so the 19 that were listed there those are families that are ready to move in. Those vouchers are already designated. Yeah and project base are a local VA or the river city senior apartments. And they've been leased. Those are leased up. Awesome. Is it a local VA you work with or is it the national VA is the local office how does that? It's the local VA. Which one is that if you don't mind me asking where are they located? Good afternoon my name is Annette Anthony I too am a program specialist with the housing choice voucher program. We actually work in partnership with the VA who's out on brick way. Border Santa Rosa and Windsor jurisdiction. We work pretty closely as Kate previously explained the VA vets or determines the need for the veteran. And we work collectively to then get that vash or veteran leased up in an affordable unit. Okay great I appreciate that. No problem. And then I guess moving on from the vash vouchers the on that slide it said there were 19 you know vash vouchers I think the other one was 13 project base and the another number of affordable units. How are those funded? Where is that coming from? Yeah so essentially that slide and I can move back to it but this is speaking of two sites that we leased up in the past fiscal year and that includes river city apartments so 19 of those units were had vash units but the entire river city had a total of 54 total affordable units and one way to look at it is that we administered that site is actually in Petaluma so we were able to use those project based vouchers to leverage an additional those total 54 total affordable units so those units are now all affordable. And with linda tuna senior apartments 13 of those 26 units were project based affordable units we actually have loans linda tuna senior apartments so those 26 affordable units are actually under compliance through regulatory agreements with the Santa Rosa housing trust so we're able to say that we leverage those using project based vouchers and we also run compliance to ensure the affordability of those 26 units. That makes sense. A couple more if you don't mind. On the website improvements I think that's really important so how do you determine what improvements you need to make and do you have a way to gauge the success of those. I assume that the customer for this is the user the person in need of the affordable housing do they provide any feedback on the functionality of like things like that with the system and then you incorporate that in I'm just curious on how you go about determining what improvements you need to make. Thank you yes so our users of the website can include potential program participants current participants landlords affordable housing developers and such so with all of those different audiences we want to make sure that it's all understandable I am not aware that we have like an active feedback program but we certainly have a way to contact us on the page it says contact us and you can email or call our department and we would take that feedback and then make any improvements that that person suggested that we determined were appropriate. I appreciate it yeah I've done sort of IT fix in the past and I just want to make sure that it's sort of directed in the right way there's a lot of times what you think is you know the something that needs to be fixed and maybe it's not important to the user but I guess just something to keep an eye on in terms of what are the metrics for success does it mean that you have either good feedback or more people visiting the site and interacting with the site and it seems like a lot of these people may may not have the access that you know that that we take for granted so I would assume that that's part taking into consideration as well that's all I got I appreciate you bearing with me on that and then again thanks again for all the info. Any other questions from commissioners? I have just one more of a general one on vouchers I remember last fall City Councilman Schweldheim and Supervisor Corsi had written a column in Press Democrat on trying to get landlords to accept Section 8 vouchers and for affordable housing there's probably no problem but for non affordable housing you know do we worry about that in our group or is that something separate? So I believe and Sue helped me out here that the city passed a law saying it was illegal to discriminate in housing based on voucher status so if you could help me out a little bit correct so the landlord cannot discriminate on an applicant based on the source of their income does that answer the question or the column was that you know private landlords just didn't want to accept it you know and they had this demand so you get a whole bunch and you can't prove those things if anybody's ever gone for housing you never know why you didn't get it and everything so that was the only reason did it fall under our group or is that something out of our area? Right it is very difficult to enforce given that a landlord will usually be able to come up with some other basis for their choice of a tenant so you are correct in that and I don't have a good solution. Just for anybody that might be listening so the city does contract with legal aid for assistance to income qualifying tenants if they wanted to do that. It's just a follow up question on that can you discuss the outreach that you do to landlords to explain that you know one of the benefits for taking a voucher is that you have a definite amount of correct me if I do the math wrong that if you've got say a unit that's renting for a thousand to keep the math simple and the tenants paying 30% of that they will get that $700 check on the first every single month and then they wait for the balance of the 30% so from a landlord standpoint the cash flow is actually more assured on a timely basis what other outreach does to landlords to explain how the process works. Thank you yes and so just to follow up on what you were saying so project-based units help affordable housing developments like the one up on the screen go forward because it is a verified source of monthly income it helps the projects pencil so I am not prepared at this moment to talk about other outreach and I apologize I'm going to need to go back to our staff and I'd be happy to answer any questions if you have any questions can you email to the board explaining that does the department have just a standard something you can email out that explains how it works so if somebody is curious you can send that out to explain how that works yes we can do that any questions from the commissioner commission if a landlord is currently accepting section 8 yes they do have the option but there are rules around that and so I'm going to ask one of you guys to come up so when can a landlord terminate a relationship with a tenant what's the timing of that sorry hello and then Anthony again with the city of Santa Rosa housing authority so section 8 participating family is no different than a regular tenant coming in too so as long as the tenant is treated by the lease they're good to go but there's no standard in other words to say okay here's a regular family and here's a section 8 family there's no clear delineation with respect to how they should be treated differently a tenant to tenant whether they're receiving subsidy or not and that's how it should be addressed and that's how we bring it across to our landlords as well the experience in a meeting I was recently in where the management team came in and made a statement that they wanted to get rid of all the section 8 voucher tenants in the complex and just across the board statement that they made well and whomever if it was yourself we as a housing authority would then refer and strongly encourage families to enact one of those legal and advocacy groups that being legal aid CRLA fair housing one of those bodies because as you can imagine the role of the housing authority is not necessarily to play mediator between landlords we offer assistance to our families to save decent and affordable housing so as to stay focused on our point and what we need to accomplish and our goals we will defer and as Kate stated earlier we actually have a contract with legal aid to support our families on section 8 around that does that answer your question thank you any other questions from the commissioners so I have a few questions can you explain just the difference between the project based voucher and the housing choice voucher so a project based voucher is specific to that housing development and if the family were to the voucher stays with that development a housing choice voucher is usable everywhere the tenant can move where they would like to move the project based stays with the development the qualifying criteria is the same regardless income qualifying criteria that I would imagine so I don't know specifically but we're getting nodding heads from staff behind you yes it is and then the emergency voucher program how much longer is that going to be in play so HUD that was originally funded as part of the American Rescue Plan Act and HUD is going to fund it as long as the people on the program need it so we get 131 vouchers and once we have leased up that 131 if a person was to come off that list we can't reissue the voucher but everything that we have so far indicates that they're going to fund it for the life of that person to have that voucher so if a person drops off they're not because that's a one-time funding source is that correct it is it is and everything that we've heard from HUD indicates that they'll continue to fund it so we have people that are on the voucher program for decades and everything we know so far is that HUD will continue to fund the emergency housing vouchers as long as those people are on it but you're we cannot re we can't reissue the voucher once a person comes off so that through attrition the program will end I don't have any my standard question is what is the current wait list time for housing choice vouchers? 8 to 10 years and that's opened up last year's the last time was opened up when will it be opened up again? May we're going to open it in May of this year generally it's every other year I think we got a pandemic maybe slowed that a little bit but it is in a month opening in May thank you I don't have any other questions we do have a resolution that's going to need to be approved can I get a motion on the resolution or any question on the resolution? before we do that we need to open it up for public comment thank you so we are now taking public comments on item 12 we're attending in person in chambers once we finish with in person comments we'll hear comments from those participating via zoom if you wish to make comment via zoom please raise your hand if you're dialing via telephone please dial star 9 to raise your hand hello you may state your name for the record if you so choose you'll have 3 minutes to make a comment you can see the timer wanted to thank you all especially the staff and you volunteers on the commission for your hard work on these efforts and for your good questions today that are helpful to understand where we are now and what the future may hold one of the things that's important as we move forward to try to house all of the people who are under housed in Santa Rosa is that we utilize some new approaches because we haven't solved many of the problems over the last many decades with you being here now we are in a sense a new body you're moving forward you can be the ones that solve some of these problems that have seemed intractable one of the questions I'd like to have answered before we leave today is how many more HUD VASH vouchers are open and available for veterans the reason I ask is because three and a half years ago I brought a homeless veteran into the program we got him fully qualified we found a place here on college avenue what was called the college avenue guest house when he went to move in a specialist from the city of Santa Rosa went there and measured the windows and found that one window was one inch too narrow and kept him from renting that unit in turn after that occurred the city of Santa Rosa then went forward and in a sense red tagged that building and pushed the other residents out the building owned by a veteran was then sold and no veterans have been able to live in that building and that man named Doug is still homeless without a voucher talked to Kim Valadez recently at vet connect as I do often and said hey how do we help this guy he's been out there in this weather what can we do is if you don't accept a project based voucher you may be stuck those people down there in Petaluma river city those 19 there there those vouchers stay there we have to find vouchers for people here in Santa Rosa who are homeless at risk of homelessness under housed these types of things I'm very grateful that I've met the new program specialist Annette Anthony new to me at least the new team that you have here that's moving forward now I believe if you'll work with the federal government especially because the veterans affairs department released that notice that they want to keep helping and they want 38,000 homeless veterans to be housed in this fiscal year that we could find a way to get our homeless veterans here in Santa Rosa up off the streets whatever under habilitated structures there in hopefully you'll work with the veterans groups also you've got vet connect you've got Vietnam veterans of America you've got am vets disabled American veterans a lot of people want to help you please let's all work together thank you do we have any more public comment? chair we have no further in person public comments on this item we have people on zoom chair oan I see no hands raised at this time in zoom and then last is do we have any email comments on this item chair oan we have no e-mail public comments for this item okay thank you we would close the public hearing select to move to close the public hearing and then there's a resolution to in front of us on this item I see there's anybody who wants to move on the resolution or have comment on the resolution we have a second I'll second the nomination thank you we call for a vote okay we'll go ahead and vote on this resolution we will start with vice chair LaPenna aye then commissioner rawhouser aye and then commissioner smith aye and commissioner newton aye and chair oan aye okay let the record reflect that that passes with five five ayes and no nays with commissioner downey and commissioner mcwarder absent thank you very much we'll move on to item 13 which is a german of the meeting thank you very much for everybody for being here in your efforts for more affordable housing in santa rosa appreciate it thank you


What if they would have baked some jalapeños in there? And then we dipped it in ranch. Woo! Welcome, everybody, to a special versus episode of Fungro's Food. And since we just did that Costco Food Court 2018 review, a lot of people requested that we do Sam's Club, the other warehouse membership club that's out there. These two stores are rivals. These are the juggernauts. You've got Costco, you've got Sam's Club. You've got McDonald's, you've got Burger King. The menu at Sam's Club is a little bit smaller, but I heard some items, not only rival, but might beat Costco's items. All right, I'm not gonna lie. I think the key thing, after Costco nicks the Polish off their menu, just the next month, Sam's Club added it to their menu. That was the dude that's been DMing your girl for a long time, and then you guys break up and he swoops in. Kinda like when Nike went after all the Kanye's people to do collabs after Kanye went to Adidas. So we're gonna review the food, we're gonna rank the food, and then we're gonna share some tips and hacks for you when you go to Sam's Club. Sam's Club Food Court, let's go! Wow! Okay, all right, coming up first, we are going to try the pizza here at Sam's Club. You know Costco, very well known for the pizza, but Sam's Club coming in with some promising-looking slices here. I do also feel some great privilege and honor that it is on us to solve one of America's greatest rivals. Yes. The Costco Food Court versus the Sam's Club Food Court. They got cheesy breadsticks, they have a pizza pretzel, which is actually a hack, and then they have this jalapeno pepperoni pizza, so. Yo, we gotta get into the pizza. Let's go, let's go. Now, immediately, I saw you go, yee, when you saw the jalapeno and the pepperoni. Yo, Costco don't got jalapenos. At Costco, they only have three types of pizza. They have cheese, pepperoni, and combo. Here, we're looking at how many types. Five different, Sam's Club has five different types of pizza, Costco already, five, bro. You got pepperoni, jalapeno. You got your pep, you got your meat lovers, which has bacon, sausage, and pepperoni.  So we just cut the cheese slices in half, okay? You got the little bubbles on the back. This looks like literally the soul on an ultra boost. This is the Sam's Club cheese pizza.  You know what that cheese actually really tasted like? It had a very strong mozzarella taste. Less tomato sauce. More cheese. Wow, there's like no sauce on that. But what I like about it, it's thin. Costco pizza hella thick. We need to move on to the pepperoni. Now we got the Sam's Club pepperoni. These are cut in half, so this is not the real size. Yo, not a lot of sauce, but I will say a lot of good flavor. They got ranch? Yeah. I'm excited, man. You said the ranch? I'm not excited. I'm wearing, wearing, wearing. So this is sauce that you can buy at Sam's Club. It's sitting on the rack right next to the register. If you guys know, I think in California, in particular West Coast, everybody loves ranch on pizza. In New York, they call this the California ketchup. All right. I call it is the goat sauce. I put it on everything. Nice. See, I got a little sauce squeezing off the side. I like that. So far, so good, man. Okay, the next slice that we're trying is the combo slice. Yes, this is like your supreme pizza. It's going to have all your veggies on it.  Those are canned mushrooms. I know those aren't real. Sam's Club combo slice. Really different experience. The thinness of the crust, it really accentuates the toppings. That sausage is really coming through. Yeah. I like that. Wow, that sausage is strong. What did he just say? Man, that sausage is strong. That sauce is strong. I like that. The crust is way thinner. It just enhances all the other parts of the stuff. The outside crust is very puffy and big, but then when you get to the inside, man, it's in. Just look at it. Just look how thin it is, man. Okay, the next slice is a flavor of pizza that Costco does not offer, which is jalapeno pepperoni. Pepperoni already has pepper in it, but you throw in the extra kick with the jalapeno. I don't really taste the jalapeno. You guys taste the jalapeno? Really? I do a little bit. This is how you eat it. You got a jalapeno out. Just bite it. Wow, you're doing it in a two-stop. Let me do that, let me do that. Oh, I feel it. I would say for one slice, I prefer it to a pepperoni, but if I had to eat two slices, I'd want the regular flavor. There's a concept of marginal value.  Law of diminishing returns. Law of diminishing returns. Diminishing returns. Diminishing returns. The water diamond paradox, I got it. All right, guys, I think this pizza goes really well with ranch, because you know, this is a very spicy pizza. Ranch. Bean. Oh, God. I don't know, guys. The pizza's pretty good, man. It looks like there's less uniformity in the crust thickness. Well, look, look, look, look at the difference. This is crazy.  Costco has a tendency to undercook their crust. These crusts are cooked all the way through. Meat lovers. Let the bacon fly. When pigs fly, right? Let's give the definitive ranking of flavors real quick. I would say that it went combo slice one, then jalapeno, pepperoni, then pepperoni, then cheese at the bottom line list was meat lovers. I can agree with most of that list. Ranking number one for me is the pepperoni jalapeno. Bite for bite, I thought that was the best pizza. Would you guys agree with me that the top two out of the five flavors went combo and then pepperoni jalapeno being interchangeable at one and two? Both? What? Say what it is! Jalapeno pep for the meat lovers. All right. Combos and meat lovers. It's pretty much been said that if you go to Sam's Club, definitely try the combo slice and the pepperoni jalapeno in the battle of Sam's Club pizza versus Costco pizza, which one you roll with? I give it a four out of five. Sam's Club pizza over Costco right now. It's a wrap, ladies and gentlemen. The other things that I would point out, I prefer the taste of the cheese with Sam's Club. Two extra interesting flavors. Those were big for Sam's Club and the crust is thinner. So right now I am rolling with Sam's Club pizza. It wasn't even closed. It wasn't, okay.  That's a big statement. You know what I mean? Each slice is $1.99. Same price as Costco. Trust me, rolling with Sam's Club pizza. Okay, moving on from the pizza. We have the other competing item, which is the hot dog and now the new Polish dog. That was a real ruthless business tactic. Yeah, man. When they added the Polish like immediately. Hey, but you know what? Polish was sitting there. Who's gonna pick me up? Who's gonna pick me up? Here I have some hot dogs and Polish dogs. All right, guys. What you guys, we're gonna figure out. We're gonna try to decipher whether this is a hot dog or a Polish. Hot dog. Cause I've been eating Polish dog my whole life. This don't taste like one. Here's a hack. I got this nacho cheese dip.  But I will say, guys, you know why the hot dog, the regular hot dog at Sam's Club is pretty good. It's because it's Nathan's famous. Nathan's famous is what they use the hot dog eating contest. Shout out to Kobayashi. What's your verdict, bro? Costco's hot dog better. Very similar. I don't like the bread. It's dry. The bun is a no-go. Oh, another hack. When you put the marinara on the hot dog it tastes like one of those Italian sausages. I'm gonna try to make this as good as possible. I'm just sticking to Halloween. You wanna make it as good as possible? You eat it without the bread. It's like Carmelo. Like, you know, he's still good at shooting. But man, his defense is so bad. It's messing up all the coverages. It's almost like it got disqualified. For my rating, I'm gonna give it a two out of five. I will give it a 2.5 out of five. With the fixings, give it a 3.5 out of five. Wow. By itself, bread and dog versus bread and dog, I would still take Costco. The marinara sauce saved that f***ing year. Guys, I gotta talk about the drink in my hand. I am holding an exclusive Mountain Dew flavor. It's called the Blue Monsoon. That's my brand name. I stand by, just like Clorox, just like Kleenex. I stand behind it. I guarantee it. What does it taste like, dude? I actually taste like a blue icy mixed with some Mountain Dew. Now I was gonna like it. Wow. By the way, I love Mountain Dew drinks and this is by far probably the best one I've ever tried. But you know what, you gotta try the icies, man. You know when the icies not icy? It's really different. This one tastes a little bit like cough syrup. And I like, I like icies more than slurpers. The ice is softer. Moving on to the next item from Sam's Club. We have the burger, which is a $2.99 burger. Rivals the $4.99 burger from Costco. Five out of five. I actually like the Costco burger, not for the $4.99 price. If it was a little cheaper, I think it was pretty solid. But based off the Sam's Club burger, it looks like, you know, half the price. It looks like half the quality. Can I tell you about the special feature? This is a bacon cheeseburger. Before we start, that bun just reminds me of a hot dog bun. I'm just saying. Don't judge a burger by its buns. $2.99 bacon cheeseburger. Oh, wow. Definitely tastes like school, man. I gotta put a jalapeno in it. I gotta put some more of these onions on it. Bun wasn't as bad as I thought. The patty's not bad. Actually, you know, I kinda dig the patty. It's more charred. I feel like they put it on a pan or something, maybe a grill. Whereas Costco's are steamed. I give it a 2.5 out of five. Okay. I would agree. I was gonna say 2.5. You saying 2.5 out of five? I'm giving it a 1.5 out of five. I stuffed it with jalapenos. I stuffed it with chopped onions. I'm not with it. And look, there's no lettuce. There's no tomatoes in it. This patty ain't even like, it's hella dry. It ain't even a real patty. It's so rough. You could sand down something. You could smooth out a surface. All right now, guys, we are down to the snacks here. We have a plain pretzel. Now we have our made-to-order off-the-menu pizza pretzel. Woo! You got plain pretzel, pizza pretzel, cheese sticks. The buff pretzel. Pretzel is shredded, yo. Yo, what is it? They make this pretzel out of a pizza. Oh my gosh, look at this. Coming in at 99 cents, we got the plain pretzel. Boom, nacho cheese. The dough is soft in the middle, but hard on the outside. I'm not gonna lie, that pretzel to me was a little bit better than that. Some good bread. If the dough was, you know, made the same way as in the middle all around, I would give it a 4 out of 5. Besides that, 3 out of 5, 3 out of 5. Just for the surprise factor, 4 out of 5. If it was cooked right, a 3.5 out of 5. Yo, for a plain pretzel, I actually liked the consistency. I like how it's crispy on the outside. Super, super soft and fluffy on the inside.  If I like the plain pretzel that much, there's a chance I like this pizza pretzel a lot. Oh, it's still warm on the, oh! Yo, I like this right here. It does look like it's been cooked well. Oh my gosh, look at that. Guys, you gotta look at it. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking. Oh my gosh. Coming in at $1.69, the pat pretzel. Oops. Are we dipping already? Wow. The pretzel's good on this one. Throw in the pepperoni. I gotta point out, look at this bottom of the pretzel, kind of soaked up some of that grease. So it's a little bit orange. I like that dough. My goodness, my goodness, my goodness. I give it a four out of five. What if they would have baked some jalapenos in there? Oh! And then we dipped it in ranch. How about fall back? This pretzel can definitely rival the mall pretzels. Bring it to the ranch. In the ranch. All right, before I even dip this, 4.5 out of five for the pepperoni. Say no more. Strong showing. I'm rolling with 4.5 on the pretzel. Before we get to dessert, we have the churro for $0.99, and then we have the cheesy breadsticks for $2.99. They're like KitKat bars, bro. I see some oregano. Maybe some green scallions. Solid garlic flavor. From the garlic butter. Going in. Oh, before you eat it, I got you. That's a head fake right there. It has mozzarella cheese. The bottom has a little bit of oil, so that means the bottom is a little bit more like buttery and crispy, and you can see that right there. And that's what I like. I give them a three out of five. Yeah, three out of five. Totally worth it. The spring and dessert. All right, all right guys, let's try the churro. This is another competing item. All right, churro. It's a little bit more moist inside. Overall, not a bad churro. Way more egg taste. I knew it. That's like an egg heart, bro. Kinda tastes like cornbread to me. Not bad, but not better. Big facts. Two out of five. I give the Costco ones five out of five, so I guess then three maybe. So okay, I'm giving it a little bit extra points just because it's more unique tasting. It doesn't taste like a usual churro. 3.5 out of five. Here we had a chocolate frozen yogurt soft serve and then we had the vanilla yogurt with berry. I was able to taste it and my quick review is that it's kind of good. This tastes like a Frosty and yes, with the Danon frozen yogurt, this one's pretty tasty too. Aren't you guys, we just went through the entire Sam's Club food court menu. What are your guys' major takeaways? We started off really strong with the pizza. Cooled down with the hot dog and the burgers. Sam's Club stuff, they do have certain items that are better. I was really impressed by the pizza. One thing I noticed is that Sam's Club tends to rely a lot less on in-house development and more collaborations with outside brands. I gotta give props to Costco for being, you know, internal development. The good thing is you can eat at Sam's Club and go into the food court without a membership. I think you've gotta try the jalapeno pepper. I guess gotta go with the pepperoni pretzel. Now as they throw in the Mountain Dew drink, man. You gotta get the marinara. Number one, that is a good side. Put that onto the pizza.  I have a new found appreciation for Sam's Club. I think I'd like to see them bring in cinnabon. I think they should do seasoned fry. Potato corners. Potato corners, fire, man. A foster farms chicken sandwich. Please let us know in the comment section below what are some other things that you would like to see us try in the same day as the Costco food court. All right everybody, that is it for the Sam's Club food court review. Shout out to Nelson, Nelly Nell Chan from HoopinLife, David, Andrew from the Fung Bros. Turn your notifications on, click subscribe if you haven't, until next time, we out. Peace!  Am I gonna die on the Costco pizza? You know what? Is this how I go out? Is this really how it all ends for me? Water! Water! It's just like, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Like Bill and Ted's, like you're gonna make a whole mood. Excellent!


Hey guys, welcome back to our channel. My name is Andrea with food and entry adventures in food And I am here today with a full proof recipe for Sausage gravy. It is one of my favorite breakfast and brunch items. So in my skillet I have one pound of breakfast sausage going and I prefer Jimmy Dean hot sausage that is my favorite sausage and I've got my handy little meat chopper here And I am just going to let this continue to brown And cook through And then I will bring you back to show you next steps So my sausage has thoroughly cooked And I don't drain any of the fat off. I keep all of that in I've got my burner on a medium-high heat And what I'm going to do next is sprinkle two tablespoons of all-purpose flour All over the meat now. I prefer somewhat of a like a looser gravy I mean, it's not watery, but it's not super thick If you want a thick thick gravy then use three tablespoons of flour But like I said, I'm just using two and I'm just sprinkling this all over the sausage And then I'm going to give it a good stir And I am going to let this cook For about five minutes. And so you don't have to continuously stir But check on it every now and then but do let it go ahead and cook for five minutes So my meat has been cooking for about five minutes And I neglected to mention the reason why you need to let the flour cook down because you don't want it to be flowery There's nothing worse than a real in a gravy that tastes like flour So this allows that flour to cook out of the meat So now what I'm going to do is add in three cups of half and half Now some people use milk, but I prefer a richer gravy. So I'm just going to add this in slowly I would not advise using heavy whipping cream. I think that'll be a little bit too thick Um, and if you're not familiar half and half is just half heavy whipping cream and half milk So I like that combo so I have it all in my pan And now I'm just going to let this it's still on a medium high heat I'm just going to let this cook until it starts to thicken and I will show you what it looks like when it gets to that point So this simmered for about 10 minutes and now I'm just going to add a smidge of salt And black pepper a smidge of salt because the sausage is salty enough, but it needs just a little bit And black pepper I would add more how it is not a huge span of black pepper Let me pour that in Stir it up And then I'm just going to let this sit just for a few minutes to let it thicken up And then I will get everything plated and show you the finished product All right guys, so here are the biscuits and gravy all plated up I just used some frozen pillsberry biscuits, but of course use whatever biscuits you prefer Now the reason mine my gravy is a little bit reddish intent or a little bit brownish Is because I did use a hot sausage, which has um red pepper in it So if you use just a regular sausage your gravy will be more white in color So I hope you all enjoyed this video. It's really simple and easy and delicious to make If you did like this video, please give us a thumbs up if you have not subscribed to our channel I certainly hope you'll do so. Thanks so much for watching and we'll see you guys next time