not be seen that's fine if you want to be a mystery but i'm gonna try to well i'm just gonna try to move um... this screen over to my ipad i'll pull you off camera for the moment and then you can be you can do that we still hear you but we won't see it at least why don't you sit here for a second so i can get you in the right position and then we'll bring you in afterwards alright so i'm gonna go over here oh i see you flipped your earpad so marcy can hear us yes hi marcy sliding in this way like that and just pot up that mic a bit now that you're sharing a mic talk a little bit let's get a level on you hello i am a cautionary tale that level's good okay good we're glad you made it back uh... to tell the tale uh... yeah and that you're feeling good feeling fine yeah i think he's sicker than i am but i had nothing to do and no one to see so all i had to do was rest except for the seven p m Neptune dance party that's cool where the story tune there was a big naked picture of Neptune behind me in life in my little hotel room so he was my only company oh that Neptune every night Neptune and i had a dance party i don't know if your guest knows that i was in covid jail she's gonna yes we're gonna get a whole we're gonna get a little bit of a cautionary tale from marcy before at the beginning of the show today sharing her experience was not so great in covid jail i don't know i'm thinking you're in covid jail in italy like the food's gonna be fantastic oh no apparently not the food was so awful it was such it was such a waste and it just goes to show you you can have terrible food anywhere in the world well it reminds me of national lampoon's european vacation which i'm obsessed with this terrible movie when they're all sitting in the cafe at the french cafe you know and you know clark is so excited about the food and then they cut to the kitchen and they're pulling out the out of the freezer all these uh... meals you know like hungry man meals tossing them in the microwave microwaved hospital food gluten free microwave hospital and you and you and you and your window didn't face the city of florida faced the airport yeah i i the face of the airport and three separate train tracks and two highways so i i did an assessment of the traffic patterns and i timed boy you were bored oh my god lock it everything off and making sure everything's running out of time man yeah what are you doing i mean you just passed the time somehow you can only watch so many channels of cheese or snow well and all there was only two english-speaking television stations uh... cnn basically the headline news and bbc news so they repeat like four times a hour was there at least anything like italian kind of like you know racy steamy some accidental nudity da da da da they don't have that anymore i don't know i i didn't really watch they become more conservative there it's more french than maybe or german the germans will show that stuff they don't care you know what i even though i speak a little bit of italian i was so mad i didn't want to try it didn't really matter nobody spoke english you know nobody wanted to talk to me anyway so yeah we're all re-infecting each other everybody in that hotel had covid everybody so why we talked to each other why are you protected from each other they would knock on your door and leave your food outside and they would take your temperature and i'd see the other people and i'd go hi and that was it they must have been depressed i don't know i mean we could have been having a party nobody would have known what you were doing on the 8th floor as long as we didn't try to leave the 8th floor right so you can leave the room but you couldn't go out if they would get if they saw you out in mahal you would get in trouble what they wouldn't feed you they'd yell you're an italian but you know there was such a such a dichotomy the people that clean the rooms and the medical staff that see you are in full hazmat gear like you know shields and they're just totally covered and the people who deliver the meals and who knock on your door and you know ask you things they're not even wearing masks and i asked him in my broken italian why aren't you wearing a mask he said i've been vaccinated so have i oh boy all logic just starts to fall out of the window at this point every person in here has covid and we needed a vaccination to come in this country right and would you say there was 43 people there from some norwegian cruise line there no it was i think it was 22 people from one ship but the weird thing is that i was in florence florence isn't a port there's no ports in florence so how did these people from a cruise ship ended up in florence covid prison i don't know it doesn't make any sense and we have a friend who was on a cruise ship in and she was on a Viking and she tested positive when she got on board which how do you do that when you had to they must have tested them as they got on the she was in she was in quarantine yeah and if the ship landed in italy while she was in quarantine she would have to get off the ship and go into a covid hotel so i believe somehow they shipped her over to some place else before they got into italy and flew her home from an airport in another country because after you after you quarantine for five days in most european countries you can leave with a mask on but not italy apparently and we have a friend that's been stuck in spain for 11 days so so the cautionary tale mat is don't go anywhere yeah don't get on the ferry stay in a cocoon don't leave the boat are we we're not on yet are we no we're on it well we're not well yeah we're on i mean people are watching us oh that's what you mean yeah but we're not we haven't gone i mean we hadn't been hit record yet but we're actually we were on but it's yeah so so you know you think you're safe you have four vaccines you've been tested multiple days but the day after week the day before we got off the ship in france france lifted their mask requirements on public transportation so the cab drivers the people on the subway nobody was wearing a mask and so you know you're with and everybody's coughing like everywhere you go all you hear are people coughing you know it's like you never noticed how many people cough until because too many jetanes you know there's there's still a lot of smokers in france yeah but their food is so much better that they're healthier overall there's thin they're thin mobile smokers because the quality don't have ngos and your food right right they're like the they're healthy smokers it's the strangest thing yeah my old neighbor in Santa Monica her parents were from there and from the on and they would come and walk to Santa Monica Pier and back a good four or five mile loop and smoke cigarettes and you know they were in grade shape okay all right it is five o'clock all righty so give it let's see four fifty nine so i will i will have my finger hovering over the uh let me make sure i have the right video ready to play the v obs no that's the tech talk be okay i got the v obs right right yeah i got it ready to go okay we got the countdown you get the countdown now we never do you want me to use that all right i'll use it yeah use it let's all right what the chance to set up hey everybody hey it's time for voice over body shop and we got a great show tonight our guest is matt calrick hey matt say hi hey hello how you doing we got lots of great stuff to talk to him about plus we have a cautionary tale from mrs lennard who will be in here in just a minute and if you've got a question for matt or for george and i throw it in the chat room jeff holman i know is in there taking down every last word we say he's really good at that yeah it's gotta write really fast anyway your questions we want him matt calrick with us tonight you ready george let's do it all right voice over body shop right now from the outer reaches they came bearing the knowledge of 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com become a hero to your clients with a word winning voice over training jmc demos when quality matters and voice over extra your daily resource for vio success and now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in sherman oaks california here are the guys well hello there i'm dan lennard and i'm george wittem and this is voice over body shop or vio bbd edit us all right yeah the beer does make me look older but what are you gonna do uh keep growing and i want to see the colonel sanders thing oh yeah but then i have to have curly white hair and that'll be totally totally weird anyway we got malchalry coming up in just a couple of minutes but my wife has arrived back from italy with a cautionary tale so we're going to invite her in and she's going to tell us about her adventure so lean right in there there you go all right hello hey marcie my wife marcie i'm marcie and dan and i had this wonderful vacation plan and because we had had four vaccinations and we were so excited to get to travel we went on a viking river cruise and then we went to paris for a few days and then dan took his covid test on friday it was negative he flew home and i flew to florans and um this represents the first part of the trip the lovely poppy dress sunshine poppies which you bought an avignon poppy poppies this is not the second part of the trip so so i started to get what i assumed was allergies on monday and i was so tired that i could have laid down in the middle of the street and just stopped and so i'm sneezing and i'm coughing and i'm buying more allergy medication and one of my friends my close friends from buffalo met me in italy we were staying in florans in this beautiful condo with four bedrooms and it overlooked the arno and it was in the perfect location except on tuesday i tested positive for covid and so i was feeling pretty sick and i was in a foreign country and although i did go abroad to italy in 1980 to study italian i am good enough to order dinner and find the bathroom i am not competent to negotiate health care in another country fortunately i found a virtual doctor who spoke english and she told me i had to go to the emergency room and that she wrote me a letter in italian because thank god nobody spoke english in italy the cab driver speak english the waiter speak english the people trying to sell you dresses and shoes speak english but not the doctors the doctors no and i got shipped to a covet hotel and you think oh it's a covet hotel in italy it'll be nice the food will be good no we got microwaved hospital meals and i'm gluten-free and i got the same yellow soup like four times i you it was like and then overcooked spinach or something that just stank the food was not very good it was really not very i really thought you were going to lunch because i'm gluten-free they don't always get a gluten-free stuff i literally got a stack of cheese like four packages of cheese that was my lunch and i'm not allowed to leave i've got nine i ended up nine days in the covet hotel in one room in one room right in one room it was kind of like a youth hostel cement walls i had a little desk i did take an online watercolor class so my watercolor skills have improved i kept myself busy every time i opened my window i i was bitten up i had so many mosquito bites but i had to be able to open the window so i would open the window and i would wait until i saw a red car and when i saw a red car i closed the window you know you gotta do for our reason to have to be a red one in there somewhere it takes a long time in italy to find a red car i gotta tell you they're they're mostly white and gray and silver anyway um i had to wait till i test it negative and there was an entire hotel full of people and once i finally posted it everybody's telling me oh yeah so and so stuck so and so stuck we have a friend stuck in in uh spain right now and i am never traveling out of this country again as long as i live i say that right now but if you're planning on going abroad and they're not wearing masks in those countries i was watching yesterday the queen's jubilee oh my god stay away from england you'll get sick um you know and and i'll just say one more thing so i had to stay in the covet hotel covet hotel is not a nice place to say it's like a motel six and no motel six would at least be friendly i mean nobody spoke english it was really not very comfortable and the people who cleaned our rooms and the doctors that came in were wearing hazmat suits but the people that worked in the hotel weren't even wearing masks and so they would be on our floors we all have covet and i said to one of the guys in my broken italian why aren't you wearing a mask and he says i've been vaccinated every freaking person in that hotel was vaccinated and so many people on cruise ships are getting booted off and if you're on a cruise ship in italy or england you're going to get dumped in a covet hotel stay home order good food out rent some good travel movies and like explore california so that is my cautionary tale from someone who was looking so forward to seeing the world i am not going anywhere ever again and she asked well i'm not going to be able to do any shopping in italy and i'm like that's okay i only want one thing back from italy i didn't get to buy anything no shoes no dresses no purses no nothing oh we can order that stuff online no you can't it's darn thank you dear thank you for letting me tell my tale i'll go now take my winding dog and take the dog yep oh i feel gosh i feel terrible i mean you feel like you're doing the right thing you waited till the pandemic mostly was you know calm down yeah and and you're all vaxed and the whole nine and then that didn't matter it didn't matter you're gonna get this stuff no matter what anyway let's move on to our special guest tonight although it was wonderful having marcia on for once um joining us from british columbia matt calrick's voiceover career spans over 20 countries utilizing multiple accents in a variety of voice types and age ranges that'll be interesting his clients include an impressive collection of the world's top brands and multinational companies matt records for commercials animation corporate and industrial narrations promos and many other mediums and he all and he does it all from the wilds of british columbia let's welcome matt calrick back to the show hey matt hello hi guys hello hey buddy great to see you again how you doing great to be back yeah yeah doing well thanks that's that's great and staying in his booth yes don't leave don't leave the booth especially you take our booths with us on international travel yeah really medically sealed yeah i used to say when this pandemic started you know you know if it wipes out mankind all the voice actors are going to be hiding in their booths and we will rule the world so well that was a really long e-learning narration where where did it all go audio books will save us all yeah yeah it saved me it saved my wife that's for darsher she listened to about 10 books while she was in there so you do a lot of stuff uh all over the place but first tell tell us a little bit about your background because you're not from british columbia you're from you're from eyes no no yeah i uh started in yeah the uh beginnings were in Queensland in australia and uh i grew up there and did some travel overseas spent lots of time in in europe before covid was a thing and i lived in london for a while and then headed back to australia and just randomly ended up on vancouver island in british columbia and the plan was just to stay here for for a little while but um it's now going well over 10 years that i've been here well 2011 so yeah decade and change um and uh never never managed to leave and i'm pretty permanent now yeah so so what brought you to british columbia oh it was that old story dan a canadian girl and uh yeah i uh was just ready for the next travel adventure as well and uh kind of had itchy feet after doing all that that travel in in europe and uh i just said you know what the hell and packed up and moved over here and the plan was to sort of stay for for a little while and um then the relationship ended and i stayed just because i love the way of life over here and um at that point you know i was uh doing more and more voiceover work and it was really useful being on the pacific time zone and so close to eastern whereas in australia uh it's it's bedtime when everyone's doing business uh so that was a you know definitely a bonus point for me there um and then yeah just really became a permanent resident and uh theoretically and and literally and uh you know that i'm a wife and we've got a four-year-old daughter and wow fabulous yeah definitely settled that's great uh once again our guest is matt calrick and uh if you've got a question for matt as we discuss stuff uh throw it in the chat room jeff holman is in there and he will get those questions to us um so i mean tell us a little bit more about this rural location that you're in now first off victoria island is an island it's not part of the mainland of british columbia the only way to get there is by ferry yeah ferry or light plane um they do have a an international airport in victoria and vancouver island itself is a is a huge island um i think it's like as nearly as big as the uk a lot of it is um mountains you know fjords and mountains and forest which is which is wonderful um but the population of the actual island is only around a million i think uh and so victoria is is a reasonably sized city i just under 400 000 people and but there is really no um large media entertainment industry here to speak of that's a lot of there's a lot of location shooting for films but uh you know there's no um there were no studios doing a lot of production work when i moved here so my my voice over career has pretty much exclusively been remote except when i travel over to vancouver for work before covid um and that's that's generally only for animation and video games and uh documentary work adr work right so what did it take to get like internet outreach because you're not like in the city of victoria you're like yeah like at the end of some dirt road somewhere or uh yeah it's it's kind of crazy um victoria has become an interesting like the great of victoria region has become an interesting um spread or sprawl uh but mcchosen the municipality in which i live is is only about a 35 minute drive from downtown victoria when there's no traffic um but when you get here yeah you really feel like you have hit the most rural of of areas uh and i i basically do live in the rainforest there's no mobile reception at all or none like a bar yeah like in my in my house at least i have to do the old like you know stand on one foot and uh reach up some tin foil and yeah hold my nose and yeah yeah uh so there's no mobile no cell signal um but i am able to get i'm able to get fiber um gig down gig up which is which is crazy to me and that's that's pretty easy to obtain out here and uh it it works really solidly that's great once again we're talking with matt calrick if you've got a question for matt throw it in the chat room right now um now you're you're from us you're from australia and you have a distinct i think it's mellowed a little bit since the years i've known you but australian accent is how i would describe it what do you work in all different accents i mean you work in australian accent you work in british you work in in english and do you do it in canadian i mean can you do a decent canadian accent yeah yeah uh it's funny when when we would have first met actually meeting both of you um i think my my main thing was being an australian voice and my brand was down under voiceovers and big honking kangaroo as the logo uh and over time my work has evolved where now the majority of what i do is uh us english working with yeah clients in the us and um overseas and i do i do british work mostly what we might call british for americans or british for canadians explain yeah exactly explain yes what does that mean give us an example it means it means it might not fly in the uk um but but actually i have done some some national broadcast work in the uk over the years and uh you know no one complained and i kept getting asked back so you mean you mean like disney english hello governor you mean that kind of stuff i don't even think that's a british for americans no that's how does that make you guys feel yeah yeah something bad good it's like the you know the gecko gecko yeah yeah exactly caught me and yeah i mean i think a lot of what i do with the uk accent ends up over there um but it's um not not a huge portion of what i do i'd say the the um largest amount of work after us and canadian is uh what we dub as transatlantic or the intercontinental accent um you know just that global sound and the nice thing there is i've always framed it as doing an accent badly but consistently okay yeah so like you know maybe a german guy who learned english in the united states so he has that like german accent but it sounds it sounds vaguely european so you can't quite place it and and uh a lot of a lot of the global brands like that sound because it sounds luxurious and and fancy right that's an almost perfect imitation of arm and heist that or when you when you talk like that i don't know if i've ever heard his voice out loud oh no he has to be the words good singer good singer too anyway once again we're talking with matt calrick uh out of victoria british columbia and he is a multiple accent voice actor and you do a lot of different stuff what primarily you're working on right now uh accent wise anything what kind of work have you been keep what's been keeping you busy yeah mostly commercial these days um like like many of us i i play in a a lot of the genres which i enjoy but um i've been doing more and more character work in in animation and games as of late um it's nice to see the that work has opened up more remote opportunities but yeah i'd say mostly i'm doing commercial and short form like short video content um that's that's the bulk of what i do on a daily weekly basis yeah you talk to you i know you mentor a lot of people people are always asking you about how do i get into voiceover how do i do that and you're noted for that for some reason i mean they they call george and i too or like you know you could go to law school uh but how do you how do you work with people are you coaching at all or are you mentoring anybody or or do you just take the letters and just answer them all as they come yeah i i like the the mentoring approach um tend to only you know work with one person at a time and and uh decide what we want to get out of the relationship or you know how i can help them um i don't do performance coaching that's not not something that i've ever personally got into over the years a lot of other talent have asked me to help them with their their business software um specifically crm and at first it was kind of casual and just you know answering questions and pointing people in the right direction and uh eventually enough people were asking me to uh to to work with them in in creating a workflow and a setup that they could use for uh out doing outreach to leads and even just tracking jobs and auditions that sort of thing that i started doing some consulting so uh yeah that's a that's a piece of what i do as well um and uh really enjoy it because often it's working with people that are quite far along in their voiceover careers and they're just trying to develop more fluid systems to not lose their minds so uh try to like get in and remove that pain point uh so explain to people what a crm is for those of the people are there that don't know what a crm is and how do you assist people with it yeah so crm is client relationship management or customer relationship management software and uh it can be many things to different people i think the way that i've used it as a voice talent is to keep track of of jobs and my clients um whether it's you know managing a booking um keeping all the the details like which mic i use which accent i use um any any particular uh technical notes on on file formats you know keeping details like that under my control and checking in on on existing clients and agents and just nurturing those relationships and then for growing business where you have a lead database and uh just make the initial contact and then the all important follow-up after that initial contact is made um and a lot of people that i work are kind of new to the crm game and i just work with one in particular zoho crm um because i found that i was able to turn it into the exact crm that i wanted after using a bunch in the early days um i just figured out the features that i wanted in a crm and uh using zoho just allowed me to go in and customize what i wanted and then it also integrates with other products like the bookkeeping software and file management similar to dropbox and uh social media management and they all integrate and together in in one one network similar to um office 365 or sales force those sorts of things so zoho actually has a good even remote desktop uh tool i've actually stumbled on it it's free and it works really really well there's a lot of really good tools in that suite yeah yeah i use the the remote desktop uh you know the assist you're talking about zoho assist that's it yeah assist yeah yeah i use that for doing the the screen um screen sharing and screen controlling when we're setting up people's um zoho setups it's it's really handy that way i find that the the meeting software is not as as solid as zoom um not much is yeah yeah yeah and i think like that's that's what a lot of um what zoho does is they take an existing product that is is really solid in the market and they they uh iterate their own version of it and some are not quite as strong but some are really really quite good yeah once again we're talking with matt call rec and we're talking about his career and some of the cool stuff that he does you're doing stuff all over the place how do you find work uh i mean are you represented are you are is most of it from your own outward marketing or what do you think yeah i think a lot of the foundation of my business is built from doing my own direct marketing over the years mostly email and calling um in the early days and uh getting on rosters you know that was certainly a big part of of what i did early on and uh you know many of those clients are still still there as a piece of the the business pie and over time i've developed relationships with with agents um and they've become a bigger part of my business and then i also um have management representation now and uh that that's pretty new to me but um already really liking that uh so for me it's it's definitely a a pie of lots of different sources but uh they all they all have their part to play and uh i don't think i would now want to rely on just one single slice uh i like the diversification of having you know multiple sources coming in at all times a lot of people you know hear about you know management because it's different from an agent how do you work with it with the manager what do they do for you uh well as i said i'm i'm pretty new and new to uh having a manager and a lot of managers tend to have different models but uh a manager's role is really elevating and already established career and uh that that may be generating new direct opportunities so auditions for for spots and for promos and trailers and cartoons and and video games um and managers also can broker new relationships with with agents and they're very well connected most managers yeah that's that that's why they become managers they have a lot of skin in the game too right yeah i mean they have a lot to gain by building the career of that talent you know they're really vested in you in a in another level beyond an agent who might just represent you for like just this one market or this one city right exactly they're they're taking your career and um just always working with you to maintain forward momentum is there is any strategy that they bring to the table as well do you feel like um i'm really just a month month or so in with my manager we'll wait and see we'll wait well we'll talk to you in a year what kind of contract did you sign yeah no i've already uh i've already i've got a few bookings through them um and uh the strategy i think is just you know a large increase in opportunities um for me particularly on the west coast um i have really great um representation on the east coast and then uh in vancouver as well and um i just really wanted to um spread my wings and and you know increase the number of my at bats every day yeah how many auditions do you think you're doing today it depends obviously but yeah it's um it's it's pretty i don't mind saying it's pretty hectic at the moment when also juggling um you know daily booked sessions and unsupervised sessions and just trying to work them all in together but um i mean some days it's uh as much as 20 and um i'd say most days now i'm at least 10 auditions and that can be partly because of the number of as we talked before about the accents the number of the amount of ground that i cover with with accents and different styles if i was just focusing on one particular genre it would be less but um i like to play so uh there's yeah there's a lot of stuff that comes through my inbox every day and i don't do it all um yeah so even with that even with the the 10 on the 20 um a day it can be i can already have separated out the ones that that weren't fully in my wheelhouse i'm gonna run you through this i want you to do an austrian an australian accent you can do you can do an australian accent too but an australian accent british american and canadian just do one after another and let's see how see if you can shift but dan i'm useless without a script dance boy dance yeah so why it was it was australian right just well that's your normal that's your normal voice yeah australian british american canadian okay um so uh because i i feel i often feel like the hardest thing to do is to have chit chat in the different accents although that's a part of what i do like if i'm on a on a source connect session right um you know from the moment i get on i am the guy they hired me to be be so let's let's roll play then i'm matt colrick i'm matt colrick here on uh v obs episode 233 230 230 yeah believe it i'm i'm matt i'm matt colrick i'm here on uh v obs episode 230 here with uh dan lenard george the tech uh so that's that's one of the british accents yeah that's a light british yeah yeah yeah um i mean some of the time i'll do like uh you know i'm matt colrick here on v obs episode 230 with dan lenard and george the tech uh that's the sound that i often get hired for yeah yeah yeah well you're you're good at that yeah and then um yeah and then uh american so 230 v obs uh matt colrick here with dan lenard and george the tech and uh we're just uh we're just having a great great time having a few few laughs yeah now some kennec some uh can you okay all right so uh i mean a lot of what i'll i'll preface this but a lot of what they want in canada is a more neutral sound but if i was to play it up um yeah i'm here on uh v obs episode 230 with uh with dan lenard and george the tech and uh my name is matt colrick it's just every all the o's are like the vowels are a little bit longer but you still have to get that the uh the r sound and and then if you got me to say something like process or you know sure and uh i like i like i like h is with my with my herbs yeah say s say s o r r y oh sorry yeah perfect that's that's kind of overdoing it yeah sorry yeah you nailed it you nailed the american canadian accent the one that we had an interesting audition where i had to uh they wanted like three varying degrees of um canadian and uh so it's like yeah the the broadcast broadcast voice for canada where it's just a little more round but you still you still feel like it's a little neutral north american and then it went from there to um add in the the marathons which is like oh yeah i'm here uh there everything is like uh well it barely makes sense you know you just got a like dial in the it's almost like uh canadian cowboys right is that novice kosher yeah no yeah novice kosher so like may that whole part of the country main new england has the best accents so like from the main off north to the novice kosher that is the best for sure i once had a audition and they said they want burly and canadian and like so you want me to be like more canadian like this i got the job and they said don't do the canadian just be burly we like the guy with that accent anyway we're talking with matt calrick here on voiceover body 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out of high school i was starting to to i got my first home studio recording set up and was playing around with amateur voice acting forums those sorts of things and um practicing at home doing some coaching so i think it was probably about a year and yeah a year or a year and a half um when i got my first booking and um it was through through networking working the the people you know and i i got a commercial in in one of the the pro studios in brisbane for a university and uh because i'd come from amateur stuff and just doing it doing it for uh the love of animation and video games it was a real game changer for me to go in and really enjoy a commercial job as well well there's a second part to that too sorry i stepped on you matt i mean that's okay sorry about that oh i was just gonna say that um i was a poor music student at the time so uh getting paid 700 bucks for an hour of work was like it blew my mind miraculous yeah i was like what no ramen for me tonight another second part to that um matt how often do you work with dialect coaches says terry dialect coaches not so much um when i first started doing uh u.s. accent work uh i was pretty close like a lot of Australians grew up with american tv um and uh i was watching from the sidelines wanting to do some of the the really cool u.s. work that i was that i was seeing i i just knew that i had a couple of gaps to close to to really get to 100 with the accent in order to compete and so i worked with one dialect coach then um linda brennan this would have been back in 2012 and um it was a really useful consultation for affirmation where she said yeah you're really close here's what you need to work on and she gave me exercises and phonetic guides to uh to work with to to fine tune the the areas where i was lacking and um i think dialect coaches could be really good for um getting practice to be confident on a live session because that's one of the things with accent work it doesn't matter if you can do a really good um american british australian accent uh when you're self taping in your home studio and you can screw it up and try it again right you know if you're really nervous about it it's it's not such an issue when it's unsupervised but if you go on a live session on source connect when they want you to be able to read through a 30 second script without stumbling screwing up um that's where the challenge comes in so i think it would be useful to to work with a a dialect coach to either pick up the areas where um you're not sufficient or just say like no you're doing fine you're doing great go go forth and and make money that's the best way to do it that's and that's why we're here uh lydia meadows asks matt what language or accent do you work in most uh yeah now it's it's uh american neutral north american neutral north american so you can cover any place yeah that's right the yeah the the national appeal that's what we're all down for yeah you got the question from yeah go ahead grace newt i think close second close second would be um uh the transatlantic you know mid-atlantic the mid-atlantic accent guy who's man of the world yes quite erudite from the 1930s film uh grace newton asks hey matt has there ever been a time in your career where you got knocked down and if so how did you regain positive perspective and keep pushing forward hmm yeah it's a good one um i i feel like maybe have had a pretty good and uh gentle run of things in voiceover like there's never been something where i really felt distraught um about my my business and in my career um there there have been roles where um you know i felt like i i really wanted them but i i learned pretty early on in voiceover just to not get attached to auditions and you know put your all into them and let them go uh because i was initially trying to think of oh like what's a role that i really wanted and got really sad when it didn't happen um i i think it's all just like when life stuff goes on and because we as performers are our product is us and um it felt like whenever i had like a significant uh life life struggle medical stuff those sorts of things when that goes on it it feels it feels like your business is also suffering in addition to your personal life and you know your your physical health those sorts of things uh yeah for for a career where you are the product it's it it's very stressful and i think in those times um you know i've i've worked with life coaches before in the in the past and uh have some tools that have really helped um me to continue on doing work myself but i guess like in times where i was really uh yeah having having a struggle um life coaching was was a really useful useful thing i picked up i got a question for you though what kind of other help have you found has helped your productivity recording in your studio any human resources any other people give you assistance from time to time uh you mean as far as like uh troubleshooting or just like in the day to day the day to day of operating your business yeah where's some other tools in your toolbox in terms of things that you use services people whatever that you really has made you just improve your productivity uh very early on in my career like particularly when i was full time um i always embraced the help of of hiring editors for longer form work and then uh about three years ago it's it's actually over three years ago i ended up hiring someone local in victoria um to be my sound engineer and he's he's been working with me full time for three years now um and uh john he runs live sessions like instead of me connecting directly to a phone patch i'll connect to him on source connect and um he'll be conducting the session he's working virtually with you well he did come here to my studio and then covid happened and um we had actually already tested a remote setup when i was traveling to australia one time um and john was doing john was kind of like driving all the studio operations so i could have my holiday and he would just give me a list of everything that i had to record for the day and i just you know bash it out in one session and he'd he'd chop it off and send everything to agents to clients um and uh so we we developed a really i think a really slick remote work process between both our um using pro tools and also uh just you know coordinating mp3s and email and and file names um and and yeah that that has been a huge huge um addition to my career both in terms of saving me time um it's really wonderful to like have someone to work with every day especially when it's all just you know self-tape stuff and um sending off auditions as mp3s uh it's it's really nice you know kind of having a workplace uh even at the moment it's a little more virtual that's that's just added a lot to to my life and and i think to my work as a result of that does he give you subtle feedback like i know in engineering an engineer in a studio in a traditional sense they have been known to speak up if there's something that's just not working or whatever does he is he at liberty to do that three years into you know this relationship does that does that happen yeah i mean over three years i've really shined in what a bad right bad read is um yeah um yeah just constantly hearing me go uh no i've i've encouraged that over time and i'm just really lucky that um he comes from a a film background and and music background so he has a very good ear and like a very good artistic sense so i've i've always welcomed the feedback and in the same sense um when we're recording say like a a three minute video we can do a a source connect session and maybe do a read through a two and then do a bunch of pickups and i can trust him to um cobble it all together as i would and um you know be sending the the client a polished product that i'm happy with so i just kind of step away from that well i i i remember that you were doing that but i wasn't sure so that's why i led you into led you into the answer because i really wanted to know and and i think honestly i'll be straight i think it's brilliant i know it's cost money it's a it's a chunk out of your bottom line but i i think it's really smart i've i've been years i always thought a business model was to train virtual engineer assistants to do this exact job for for voice actors so they could it's they could side load you know a big portion of their even if they have the time technically to do it to then redirect that energy to oh yeah to growing the business or making new service whatever it is and offloading some of that you know that's that thinking like a CEO mentality and again a huge kudos to you for doing that i think it's i really think it's uh it's brilliant thank you yeah yeah it's it's been it's been wonderful and um you know the watching the evolution of of my engineer has been really cool too uh you know he's had the chance to grow in areas from uh just basic editing and now he can you know he can drive a um a pro tools session like a boss uh you know in line with a lot of people that i work remotely with on on source connect like he's acquired that skill set um the mixing element is uh you know still something that he's working on but um you know when we are required to do the mix we're often outsourcing that to um an audio producer but he he knows how to line everything up so it's been really cool to see someone evolve in that in that role and and yeah i think it would be a great thing for um other voice talent to use um where they think it is uh something that could fit into the into their business it certainly frees up lots of time it um changes the way that you perform when you're not having to engineer um and uh yeah it it's given me back so much yeah it's it's sort of the same thing a lot of people we talk to who are now have home studios they were so used to working in a studio with somebody and the engineer would always do the work so it's sort of you're you're bringing it back to the way it was only you get to sit at home while you're doing it which is kind of nice yeah i think my my uh longer term goal with with my engineer was to create a a system where it was almost like i was driving to you know 50 studios in a day and just being the talent um and we can do that with source connect like we just i just dial he's got his own source connect account um that i that i purchased uh like it works well using the two and we just you know jump on pound something out do some auditions do some jobs and it's uh it feels like yeah just going studio to studio and not having to worry about scripts not having to worry about recording anything it's it's really useful yeah and now george doesn't have to do the source connect commercial because you just did it exactly thanks i don't think make up another source connect commercial jr is black asks uh on youtube speaking of technology what is your setup or mic chain and what are you using you're mostly your 416 your 103 or and do you use any plugins or straight into an interface and what is it that your engineer is doing or how do you know what you're working on in your chain there yeah um so i mostly record on the 416 i have the u87 ai which i which i do use um a fair amount as well uh and it's it's all going i was running the um i was running everything into the universal audio 6176 and now that is sitting in a box and i'm just using the the apollo twin i was using the um the x6 but that one's um gone to to john my engineer so he uses that i use the the twin x and um at the moment i'm talking to you guys just on the the twin the apollo's preamp i like to use the voxbox unison plugin and the the avalon they're both nice to play around with but largely because of the nature of what i do connecting to other studios it's just setting either the the preamp the unison preamp um with no compression or eq um and uh i'm in a room that george wittem helped me to dial in ever so nicely um so there's not there's not a lot that we need to do um it's it's pretty pretty bare bones all right we got time for one more question here uh from terry brisco he says matt what do you feel challenges you most in voice over 30 second spots with 35 seconds of copy yeah that one's a fun one no uh honestly i think these days there's so many directions that you can pursue you know if you do like to keep a pretty diverse pie um and it's that that focus of um you know knowing in a given day where to just apply my efforts to and uh and i think as far as the the auditions and the things coming in it's a it's a nice problem to have but sometimes i probably do need to be more selective about where i turn my attention to on on a given day um i think it's very easy with a voice over career whether you're doing marketing or administration bookkeeping recording auditions recording jobs to quickly reach the end of the day and just have no time left and um it that that can kind of lead to burnout so i'm i feel like i'm always battling burnout good all right well i doubt you'll ever burn out because you love what you do yeah it's true it's true well matt it's been great seeing you it's been a long time and hopefully yeah we'll get to run into each other at a conference uh towards the end of the year if they ever let us out of our houses um if anyone wants to get in touch with you where can they find you uh yeah you can uh go to my website matt colrick.com um and then uh for the uh crm consulting side of things uh matt at timbersound.ca we'll do the trick uh that'll that'll help you connect with me on that channel excellent well matt great seeing you thanks so much for joining us this week we really appreciate it it's a pleasure man good to see you again yeah really good to see you guys all right thanks so much take care all right we'll be right back to wrap things up and rack it up for tech talk right after these don't go away you're still watching vlbs in these modern times every business needs a 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just a minute ago he use it is it's just a daily part of his workflow he's not only using source connect to connect to studios when studios request it which is going to happen quite a bit when you're doing commercial work and those kind of bigger ticket kind of work he's actually made it part of his daily workflow he's actually got a virtual engineer who worked with him for a while in studio but now is remote and he remotes to that engineer on source connect every day and records and has him record everything for him i mean i know some of you are aspiring or maybe you had five years in you're thinking i can't imagine what that would cost but boy you get to a certain level in your career and if you're where you're at what where matt is you can't not do it because it will improve your life you're going to have so much more free time and you're going to feel connected because you really are you're connected every day to another human being it's pretty amazing so what a cool use of source connect and if you want to do it too just go over to source dash elements dot com and get a free trial and you know the rest you watch the show all right let's go back to the studio right after a little funny bumper or banner or something i'm going to press a button and we're going to see what happens here we go yeah hi this is carlo solis rocky the voice of rocko and you're watching voice of a body shop hey it works well no we were always on the wrong side from each other yeah no we we wanted we wanted to show this bumper i love that one man where did he find that sound effect actually i think he did that one for him anyway uh boy it's great having matt on him we haven't seen him in a long time and he's a super duper guy yeah really talented yeah uh next week on this very show which we're going to record right now so if you got tech questions throw them in the chat room right now i think we have a few already uh tech talk number 80 will be here so uh that's going to be interesting 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but we're gonna just click it off for now i'm dan Leonard and i'm george widham and this is voiceover body shop or vio bs see you in a bit bye everybody all right oh man that wasn't that awful no wasn't at all a thing here or there and you know that's pretty cool all right well let's get into tech talk here it definitely definitely keeps on your toes because those bumpers are short yeah you have to like be ready to get that commercial going right you know keep the flow going okay you're gonna have to put your you know throw your videos in there and stuff so when we get into i'll do that yeah i've got i've already got the uh playback video queued that's that's the kind of just that's the one that's just showing this the nam show okay and then the other one i do need to prep that one thank you for reminding me so let me let me get that one uh properly ready to go okay and get to share if i share it now is it gonna override what we're doing let me see yeah probably yeah but what if i can i just go can i and now it's oh there we go it's there it's just uh it's just uh there we go okay all right i think we are in good shape in that case let's roll it all right in five four three two hey it's time for voiceover body shop tech talk number 80 yeah the graphic works yes tech talk number 80 80 hours of voiceover technology all accessible to you believe it or don't and uh if you've got a question for george or i about home studio home voiceover studio tech throw it in the chat room either in facebook or on youtube if there's a chat room in there and if you're in there you know yeah of course there's a chat room i see it right there throw it in there and jeff holman will get us those questions and we love getting your questions anything at all about home voiceover studio technology throw it in there right now so let's get into it george you got some stuff from nam nam a little bit announcement from wwdc about max stuff a lot to talk about all righty coming up now voice over body shop tech talk from the outer reaches they came bearing the knowledge of what it takes to properly record your voice over audio and together from the center of the vio universe they bring it to you now george widdum the engineer to the vio stars a virginia tech grad with the skills to build set up and maintain the professional vio studios of the biggest names in vio today and you dan lennard the voiceover home studio master a professional voice talent with the knowledge and experience to help you create a professional sounding home vio studio and each week they allow you into their world making the complex simple debunking the myths of what it takes to create great sounding audio answering your questions showing you the latest and greatest in vio tech and having a dandy time doing it welcome to voice over body shop tech talk voice over body shop tech talk is brought to you by voiceover essentials dot com home of harlin hogan signature products source elements remote studio connections for everyone voice actor websites dot com where your vio website isn't a pain in the butt vio heroes dot com become a hero to your clients with award winning voice over training jay michael collins demos when quality matters and voice over extra your daily resource for vio success and now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in sherman oaks california here are the guys well hello there i'm dan lennard and i'm george wittem and this is voice over body shop or vio bs tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk tech talk yet we're here to talk about your home voice over studio technology my voice ain't a hundred percent there still getting over that covid thing that everybody's gonna get guys i'm telling you it's out there i'm hearing some of attitude three times yeah uh you know the vaccine yet it stops you from getting really sick but it you know it still can happen to you but it didn't kill me so that's right survival the fittest at this point yes and we all know voice actors are the fittest anyway um if you got a question for us throw it in the chat room we'll be happy to answer that we thrive on that because part of what george and i do i mean george does it full time i'm a voice actor but i also spend a good deal of time working with you and your home voice over studio you know there's a lot of things that can go wrong there's a lot of stuff you don't understand people are intimidated by the mere fact that they've got to do this on a computer despite the fact that you know most of us have been using computers for probably you know 30 40 years some people read too many forum posts that and that's the other thing there's an awful lot of mythology and silliness and everybody's an expert in one studio their own i was also going to say one up in ship yes yeah it's like you know can you top this you know i got this microphone it's gonna be great oh you got to use this channel strip you got to use this it doesn't matter because every voice is different and every room is different so the only way to make sure that your sound is sounding the way it's supposed to sound like is to talk to the guys that actually know what it's supposed to sound like whistle whistle uh so if you want to work with us we know the answers we can get you get it done right i had clients this week they're like i have no idea what i'm doing and i got to come in tell them what equipment to buy and you know check out their space and see what it is it has to get done and and george you do the same thing you know we're talking to people all the time a lot of people getting into voice over a lot of people that have been doing it professionally for many years but they after the pandemic they're like oh i guess i have to have a home studio despite the fact that you and i have been telling them for like 10 15 years that you have to have a home studio but do they listen no it takes something else to push them on but if you want to get the best instruction and the best consulting on how to get your home voiceover studio sounding the way it's supposed to sound like and save a heck of a lot of time while you're at it and money is the same time i mean because you know time is money you can time is money and equipment is expensive and it's not the most expensive equipment that's going to make you sound the best it's the best environment and we're going to teach you how to do that and we'll be happy to answer questions on that as well so if you want to work with george over george the dot tech where did they go well you you nailed it george the dot tech my name is my address and uh that's where my home on the web is for all things tech and i have got free resources on that site quite a few of them actually um i've got my uh my version of the specimen cup i call it a sound check not quite as clever but same idea send me the audio in and i'll give you feedback about what i'm hearing and what could be improved not the performance just the technology you know just the just the tech uh how's your mic placement how's your room tone how's the room sound et cetera um and that's all over there at george the dot tech but dan does a lot of the same kind of thing at his own place on the web and that's at home voiceover studio dot com i'll let dan drew the to the tribe i was gonna click that one in there sorry we both clicked at the same time and boom it's gone all right yeah home voiceover studio dot com is where you'll find me and this the supposedly the new site is going live and the specimen collection cup is now at the top of the page so when you go to home voiceover studio dot com it's right there and you can send me a sample for twenty five dollars i will analyze your audio and i will tell you whether it's great or where the shortcomings are and how to fix them and if it's really bad or if you really want more involved instruction we can set up a full consultant ask anybody that's worked with me we have a lot of fun doing that and uh you know and i might get a little bit more into performance than you know because george doesn't doesn't teach that stuff as a voice actor you know i've heard it all i've seen it all you you have a little bit more of a of a the what's the word i'm looking for expertise expertise that's that's a simple word to explain it in terms of performance absolutely you've been coached and coached and and act yourself and you have for many years so yeah since like the nixon administration so uh you know i am not a crook you know that's the thing about impersonations you have to do the physicality you can't go i am not a crook it doesn't sound like nixon you have to i am not a crook you gotta get those jowls physical physicality is an important part of that so i can teach performance a little bit too uh and i get a lot into don't over project your voice you know it's conversational use your indoor voice things like that anyway uh go on over to homevoiceoverstudio.com and uh you'll be able to find me there and see all the services i offer as well and now george you were at nam last week or this weekend correct yeah just just uh by the time you're seeing this replayed it was a week ago um it was a friday saturday sunday and actually was there all three days um i did something really different this year and i came there as a support uh and reporter for office hours dot global a completely different place on the web where people are discussing technology in their own way um and i just uh they wanted to do it live and actually have it be interactive like we do our show here but from the show floor and we managed to pull that off and i'll show you quickly first just i'll i'll show you a little bit of a playback package of um of just what it looked like to be at the show this year let's throw that in there so here's a and i won't go for too long long on this but here is uh the set we got to use they actually had sets created by akg and harm and where the media could sit down and have interviews which was really really cool and then we just started walking the floor in this case we're trying to get to the tailor guitar booth for a specific meet with a meet and greet with a with a talented guitarist who's going to give us a demo and they had their own set and everything and we took a nice stroll with our camera system on this this camera system that was built by noah sergeant noah is shooting the handheld video so you're not seeing him but noah from corporate streams dot com built this rig just to cover the nam show live streamed from two cameras through a switcher through a thing called mr net that connected us to the you know to the satellite or whatever it was not satellite it was just lte modems but still and uh it was it was altaya a technological tour de force it was amazing if i if i had the tools and the wherewithal and the motivation it's how i would love to have done the show and i got to do it so it was a blast being the sole reporter we were supposed to have two unfortunately guess what the other one got coveted so i had to do uh take the shoulder shoulder the entire load of being the reporter thankfully we had a crew back at a virtual studio that was anchoring the show and keeping the conversation going and then we had a panel of folks who are really on zoom here we are still we tried to find taylor guitar down at the end of the hall the absolute other end from where we were and there was nothing there it was a it was it was a mistake on the maps oh my gosh so i mean it took eons to make our way back up i mean i'll fast forward three minutes here we are now prepping to go into the taylor room and actually sit down with taylor's guitar guitar player there he is and uh and you know i got to sit there and interview a guitarist i didn't think i'd be doing that i don't know a dang thing about guitars but you do it they throw in front of you so anyway we we had a heck of a great time in your interviewing and talking to all these vendors like as dan and i have done in the past and uh that's it there's a little there's a little quick overview of what it looked like to be at nann this year it wasn't nearly as intense crowded and overbearing as before the before times i know my ears are still ringing from the second time i went it was just people and people and people and you know with uh with covid now it's like you know you can't gather people like that and somewhat you're gonna get something from somewhere were there a lot of people wearing masks or was it not as many as you might hope uh maybe a quarter of the people there probably so uh yeah so i i tested myself today nothing yet i might do another test in a couple of days and see but but it was it was quite exhilarating it was it was fun it was a little stressful at times being being ready to go live like four or five times when the uplinks keeps failing over and over while you're standing next to the guitar the keyboardist from dream theater who's like a rock star legend you know and then that was really intense that was really intense but uh anyway we did get one package we we got a lot of uh interviews but one that's probably relevant to us um i did manage to find in our timeline i have the video queued up from youtube from uh our saturday coverage it's a five hour and ten minute long youtube video but i managed to queue it up and uh here we go this is a this is a little just talk with focus right about your next interface to replace your scarlet let's take a look i will pot that up as they say to an anaheim california and we've made it back to the other end of the hall to see focus right and what's new at focus right and to tell us all about it is john d nicola how you doing john i'm doing great we're really excited to be back here at the nam show for sure i know we're all getting warmed up again right yeah exactly so uh focus right always innovating really some great products that are cost effective easy to use and now you guys have really stepped it up in the streaming podcasting world tell us what you got yeah exactly so we have a whole new range of we have a whole new uh range of audio interfaces uh the vocaster and for the first time we've developed this range specifically with the needs of podcasters and a voiceover artist and etc in mind and so what we've done is um for example we have our you you may know our you may be familiar with our scarlet interfaces the most popular usb interfaces in the world um and so we've gotten a lot of great feedback from our customers from podcasters and streamers and they've told us and in our research we've realized that you know there's a lot of features that are a little bit different that they need um and so we decided and since scarlets were kind of designed with musicians in mind we thought why not go create a new interface from the ground up with all that great feedback and that's where vocaster comes in so our idea was to take the barriers remove barriers make it easier to use and provide some of those extra features that these types of people need so you guys must have just gotten so much feedback and probably listening to the community of users out there i i set up voiceover studios for a living that's all i do right so scarlets are pervasive you know so you guys i get a lot of feedback i know it's helpful and based on the little teasers i've heard this seems to scratch a lot of itches can you give us some ideas of what's special about this yeah absolutely so i'd like to start off talking about the microphone input uh the mic input has automatic gain setting so that's a pain point that a lot of our scarlet's customers told us is just setting the right recording level and so we take the guesswork out of that we just go over here we can press this button and then we can talk into the microphone for about 10 seconds and it'll automatically set the gain level for you another important part to mention about this mic preamp is it has 70 db of gain so it's whoa yeah exactly well much more than many than most interfaces and that's going to be allowing you to you know run those professional dynamic broadcast microphones without any kind of other preamp so that's a big one that we are a big request that we had as well so what's some of the unique features that allow it to be fit into a workflow of someone who's live streaming or podcasting perfect timing so the next button over here is the magic wand or the enhanced tool and what this does is it allows you to pick some presets that apply focus rate processing so ecu compression all that stuff that you would normally do in post production it's going to give you that polish sound right out of the vocaster so of course if you're live streaming that's critical but even if you're recording it's just going to get your recording sounding that much better right into the recording rather than having to fix it after the fact so you have four presets so you don't have to worry about needing you don't know how you don't need to know how to use a compressor or ecu you just pick the preset right there and then you can turn it on and off from the front of the unit we've also added a mute button which sounds really simple but you know for a voiceover podcast situation super helpful to have that feedback right there and you can quickly mute and unmute as well we call it a cough button on the radio i was going to say that but uh but yeah i've been hearing that throughout the show um so yeah we so we have that and then we have some extra connectivity options as well that kind of fit into that workflow so for example uh on vocaster two for the first time we've included bluetooth in the interface and that's a two way connection so you can do a phone interview um and you know you're going to get that audio into your show into the vocaster hub software and then vocaster hub will send a mix minus mix out so that the person you're interviewing can hear the show without hearing their voice of course so uh you're all set for phone interviews you can also do that with a trrs connection on the back um because our vocaster one actually does not have bluetooth but you can get your phone in on that way and on vocaster two you can do it both ways so you can actually connect two phone so those vocaster one does have the trrs mix minus type thing i'm about built into yes it does and actually while we're talking about vocaster one that's the main difference is the bluetooth and then of course the fact that it has a single microphone input and a single headphone output uh over here on vocaster two not only do we have the two uh mic inputs but we also have two uh headphone outputs and that's another thing that you know podcasters were requesting and i can see big dedicated knobs to control so a guest who's sitting there can easily know what knob to turn and just grab it yeah yeah exactly yeah it's great to have that because you know devices that rely too much on one big knob can be a little confounding to use in a live situation it's fine if you're self-engineering and you're just taking your time but in a live heat of the moment you want to be able to grab something and quit so i'm glad you guys did keep a couple you know physical controls yeah absolutely and um another thing i mentioned is we uh one more uh connection on the back is we do have a eighth inch camera audio output too so if you're doing video along with your show you can connect that audio directly to the cameras and record it directly to the camera's memory card so you don't have to worry about that in post as well oh you don't have to sync audio you don't have to worry about getting the usb to sync up with the video capture well yeah exactly and uh actually and you could even use this as a preamp uh this doesn't even need a computer to run so if you just want to use the preamp and the enhance mode and record right to your camera in the field you can plug this into a battery pack and do that as well it is really well thought out i mean sometimes you know i sometimes i'd say we were a little maybe that maybe fake focus right was a little bit late to the party right but the advantage of that is you get to look at what everybody else has done and go i think we can do that better i think there's another way to do that to set yeah i'm really glad you brought that up because we've been researching and developing vocaster for a number of years and uh like you said we got to get a lot of great feedback and uh we tried to put as much of it in there as we could well it's we've got questions look at them queuing up on screen so let's get to uh the first so i'd rather get questions from uh our audience rather than spend time on the audience questions from the show but you guys can uh go find the full video just type in uh nam office hours on youtube and you can watch the entire thing which is really a lot five hours of it anyway so yeah i think what focus right did was they they iterated on what's been done they they looked at the evo by audience they looked at the uh the revelator which i have right here they looked at the roadcaster and they took i think really honestly i think they took the best things from each of those and baked it into this and it's three hundred dollars which we didn't get to but the the unit itself this the two is 300 the one is 200 um i think most people will be very happy with the one the fact that it has that trrs cable to add a phone patch makes minus is pretty darn nifty um at that price point i i think they really uh may have nailed it but i'm gonna always as always wait until we've had time to play with one and i they told me that if i reached out to their marketing director that they would get us one to uh to test out so i want one i want one i want one i gotta check it out yeah yeah yeah so uh yeah so that was cool getting to be there and and soak all that in um let's see what else we can slide through here because i have a lot on here yeah um audience showed off the evo 16 um it has eight mic preamps and it has that same auto gain setting feature so if you're recording a band or a large podcast with five six seven mics it's awesome you hit a button everybody goes hey mom i'm george i'm steven everybody just talks away and it just sets everybody's game boom done um if you were self recording your own drums that would be sweet then not have to set all those mic gains for that's cool um also aes was basically wrapped up inside nan this year right and they may have done this before i'm not sure but um i i popped up and i was really lucky to catch an acoustics presentation by sam berkow of s i a acoustics this guy designs he designs big stuff concert halls and etc really really impressive spaces and i was it was fun because they took questions and so after this whole thing about big expensive rooms and control rooms it's like so how do you acoustically tune a little three by five room the size of a closet for voiceover what would you recommend you know and it really kind of stumped them because they just don't work on those spaces at all and we do yeah so it was really fascinating you know to see that and it kind of proves and reinforces my one of my discovery that acousticians those big big time guys with all the degrees and all the maths don't know how to tune small spaces for for acoustically for vo in general i mean some probably do but mostly they don't so that was interesting if they were really nice and they said if we ever wanted to chat with them um we could and we'll have to reach out um w w dc just happened as well and uh here's the very short version of the short version of of w w dc there's a new processor chip now it's called the m2 so it's the it's the next step from m1 it's one better um it's it's got a higher number but it's got a higher number um the new macbook air was released it is slightly lighter than the current macbook air uh it is the screen is slightly slightly larger uh at 13.6 inches diagonal um they make it in four different colors but not the fun colors i thought for sure they'd have all those fun iMac colors nope they have i think space gray gold rose gold and silver something like that so not candy colors anymore yeah they don't have they didn't do those fun iMac colors for the macbook air surprised me um magsafe charger is back baby god the third version of magsafe is back so now that was a dedicated charge cable for the unit um but they've maintained just you know the two usb-c thunderbolts and a headphone jack just like the current or the one that i have and the one that a lot of us have um so it can go up to 24 gigabytes of memory so that's good there's more upgradeability there but again you got to do that from apple and the macbook pro 13 inch same deal it's just an incremental update to the one they released two and a half uh year and a half ago nothing really to write home about there m2 is like in general about 20 to 30 percent better performance than m1 rush out and buy it heck no if you have an m1 macbook air you're fine if you're still thinking about upgrading from an intel machine it's fine then and they're selling both the m1 and the m2s on the store i just checked they also released mac os ventura while they're announced it i should say not released it they announced it so that's the next os they're moving down the coast i'm hoping the next one's os mac os like uh san amonica or something we'll see uh but uh snard yeah ox snard that's what am i thinking ox snard of course um and then camarillo and then a thousand oaks keep moving down um yeah there's you know and as i like to say there's more newness in it it has more new thing um even less important to upgrade to as i can tell but it has something called stage manager which is a clever way of moving between windows spotlight searching now searches text in images so that could save time trying to find stuff especially if you scan and take pictures of all your receipts you can now just look for that um there's continuity camera what they're basically admitting is that hey the phone camera in your iphone is a lot better than the webcam in our computer so let's let you do that so that's finally a feature built into ventura i think we've had our own third party tools to do this now for a while but it's now built in they're even going to sell a bracket believe it or not a proper bracket to put your iphone on the top of your computer monitor just for that purpose really interesting to see them do that much better i love i love the camera the camera even on a four-year-old iphone the camera is dramatically better than the camera on your macbook air macbook pro or anything um last last but not least ipad os there's a thing called hand off now which works with stage manager makes your ipad feel a little bit more like a mac you can actually now see two windows sort of overlapping each other at times they're they're kind of making ipads more and more useful let's get in there um so that's the the new ios ipad os 16 that so that's coming later so this was again this was w w dc this was four developers worldwide developer conference so i was really surprised they announced a macbook air new hardware but it is out it is there so um that's my wrap up on my tech my tech news for the week dan you got anything to to to tie up our conversation well what i noticed is and yeah i mean we've been sort of commenting along as this has gone along that yeah the manufacturers don't design stuff for voice over we're just borrowing all this technology to to do what we do until now kind of yeah i mean i mean they put the name vo in the name yeah it's true but they also put the word caster in it so they're sitting in the boardrooms of corporations thinking about what they're going to make and when it's podcasting when focused when focus right makes a box called the voice actor yeah i will be yeah i don't see it happening i don't see it happening either but that would be a miracle yeah but what's interesting is you know because i talked to a lot of people who do podcasting too and as i always say just because everybody can do a podcast doesn't mean everybody should uh but uh the tech you know people are still intimidated by the technology and of course you know when you and i probably talk to people about podcasting we really take it from a voice over point of view and not the over processed compressed kind of sound that people keep trying to do on podcasting so they sound like they're on the radio as opposed to just loud enough so people can hear you nice and clearly and you know there's there's lots of discussion left about that and uh i mean there's the way we do our podcast i mean we do the tv show that we're you know our webcast that we're doing now we just take the audio and we shove it out there as a podcast no one seems to complain what is it this there's people going for a certain sound it doesn't make any sense to me make yourself sound clear no background noise no vocal reflection and proper modulation now this this vocaster thing has an automatic game center there's a whole piece of my general lesson that i can take out if someone has one of those yeah i mean we want people to know how to set game but honestly you're as an actor if we can take that one little step out of there and take the maybe maybe it's not even about kicking the guesswork out of it it's maybe it's about removing the anxiety about it yeah um but if we can just do that you know we've been able to hold up a phone and get autofocus and auto white balance for how long now so it's it's kind of funny how audio has been so so far behind in terms of auto settings that actually are good yeah um but we're we're getting there all right well we got a ton of questions that's what we love about this show we get audience questions and we'll get to those right after these important announcements do not go 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and it just it's like the world's greatest telephone if you've never had a conversation over source connect it's it's just amazing it changes the way you communicate because it's so clear you hear everything from the other person and it's just a very natural way of of of connecting so it's just i found it really fascinating to hear how he uses it but if you want to get it into your studio go to source-elements.com and get a 15-day trial you don't necessarily need to buy it you don't even have to license it just get that demo up and running so you know how to use it so when that session comes along you're ready and tell them you've got source connect that's going to get you some more gigs and it's proven anyway this is george the tech thanks for sponsoring us source elements and let's get back to those questions right after this well hello there i bet you weren't expecting to hear some big voiced announcer guy on your new orientation training for snapchat were you this is virgin radio well okay we're not that innocent there's genes for wearing and there's genes for working dickies because i ain't here to look pretty she's a champion of progressive values a leader for california and a voice for america it's smart it's a phone it's a smart phone but it's so much more it's a the files are ready don't forget to pick up the eggs what time is hockey practice check out this song it's the end of the road for rent when hope is lost the i8 from bmw who said saving the planet couldn't be stylish hey it's j michael collins i bet you think i'm gonna try and sell you a demo now uh i think they speak for themselves but i will give you my email it's j michael at jmc voiceover dot com now if they will stop waxing this mustache for a minute we'll get back to the show we're back now i like that view better okay so we had a ton a ton of questions it's time for the lightning round we sure do where should we start with lidia meadows yeah let's start with lidia meadows all right for possible tech talk or dana george what is a good travel setup for recording on the go um dynamic mic a zoom stinging a computer interface thing of a bob combo whatever what are you guys liking i guess is what lidia wants to know well there's okay the first question i ask would somebody ask me this question is how much traveling do you do it's like you know if you're just starting out it's this has to be one of your lowest priorities you've got to be able to record at home you've got to be able to do auditions and stuff like that if you if you're well connected if you're you know a you know a top paid voice actor if you're somebody that's you know as we like to say golden handcuffs doing promo work very very tiny percentage of people that you really need to have a road unit that said keep it super duper simple don't have to worry about all sorts of other things especially since you're only going to be able to do auditions on the road or one-off commercials or stuff like that you can't do something on the road that you started at home certainly not audio books so for traveling you know i like you know epogee makes the epogee hype and the epogee mic they're fabulous it really sounds like a 416 if you use it right there are techniques to it we can show you how to do that and but you know that in a closet you know and you're in your macbook or whatever and it sounds great you just have to know how to use it good my technique yeah no we knew two ways about it so that's that's my that's my thing you know it's like yeah it's a usb mic but it's like one of the best usb mics and it sounds really good if you use it properly not very forgiving on plosives and stuff like that so you have to use proper mic techniques so there are no plosives a friend of a client or friend or somebody i saw recently in their setup they were using for travel use the road video mic ntg and they did find it to be a really really good travel shotgun mic so that's something else that you can consider as an alternative if you want to have that shotgun mic travel mic and dan you've got the little baby road video mic go to the go to and and i'm hearing i mean from what you've sampled for me or just just the test that you did with it that thing blew me away for a hundred dollars sounds great and usb too on top of that of course you have to get the special cable for it it's yes that's another thirty forty dollars right yeah cable you know i bought two just in case yes good idea but it but it does work as a you know it does work you know and the thing is is if you're just doing narration or something like that it's probably just fine next question from elisha hurley for george the tech okay she's considering getting a recon van and putting a small studio in it what do you suggest for internet service as i travel that keep source connect ports open to traveling places now you have expertise in recording in a van don't you well i've i've i've dem i've messed around with it i've had clients doing it um this this this just depends on uh a lot of factors but the thing that's probably the most enticing technology right now that a few people i know are actually experimenting with fire and wagner um is the uh the starlink yeah starlink that's the technology that elan musk is uh has released that he's flying uh hundreds and now thousands of small satellites around the globe and spreading it with internet and quite good internet actually quite fast internet with quite low latency so um you can't well some say they've actually managed to use it while while in motion it wasn't designed for that but um it's uh the antenna auto auto aims itself once you get to your location you just set it up um and uh you might want to check that out if you really do want connectivity in rural locations otherwise you know you're going to be stuck with the fun of dealing with 5g 4g or whatever lte thing you can find and uh keeping source connect ports open is not often going to be a viable or even possible when you're doing mobile modems and things like that but you know what can who can answer that probably is is source elements they know their technology better than anybody so they may know things that i haven't even thought of trying yet all right uh from terry briscoe hello again guys thank you for sharing your insight as always uh so i'm trying to work my way up the microphone hierarchy and since i can't afford the 416 just yet i'd like to know both of your opinions on the mke 600 which is the uh mk that's the uh but this is like the entry level version of a 416 from their right product line yeah i haven't tried one uh i think you have though haven't you i've heard it i not too long ago i think somebody said that that's what they were using and it sounded fine i i didn't i had no complaints about it whatsoever i don't know why i don't hear it or even recommend it more often than i do for whatever reason i don't know maybe because there's so many out there and you start forgetting about some of the ones that have been around already for a while but yeah it's worked fine in the in the cases that i've heard it being used yeah and he goes on to say the vocaster looks very promising so for us that are doing just vio in our home studios with the vocaster be one be sufficient and have pretty much the same features yeah it does now the bluetooth yeah there's no bluetooth on that but i find bluetooth to be fiddly and annoying and i i wouldn't want to use it anyway it's got the the trrs cable connection that with a phone adapter for your mobile phone your you know the headset a japt adapter for your iphone or uh if you've got a phone with a headset a jack is a plug and play phone patch solution so uh that's really really nice especially if you're on windows where sharing audio devices between different apps is a nightmare um this now allows you to have a dedicated audio device just for communication and you can use your primary usb interface connection for your da so that could be really helpful i know for for sure i've in the experimentations i've done with the sentrance uh portcaster that that connection is really really useful and um so nice to see it at that $200 price point yeah all right you get the question from dave g day g um dave says uh most underused service question mark i'm assuming he's talking about our services um lenards soundcheck he made sure my niece's booth in new york city was kosher sounds like a plug for a soundcheck um in doing in dan's case it's the specimen collection cup but um anything that will get you our objective feedback about your audio that will take the guesswork out of it only for $25 is a no-brainer um i'm i'm biased but um and dave also says george you have done an effect stack for my twisted wave using a large diaphragm condenser but now i'm using a 416 and it sounds fine uh any problems with that thanks for reminding us to say if it sounds good it is good yeah that's the answer to that question or should or should he get another stack for the 416 yeah i want more money so please order another stack please yeah i'm happy to take your money no if it sounds good it is good it is as always is the is always the case yeah but if you're not sure let you know reach out yeah now here's a great question dan what do you do when there's too much copy for the time allotted for a commercial audition uh he just ran into it last night on a i don't know audition well you know that was jeff yeah jeff holman wrote that one um the thing about long copy now if you were in radio like i was that was always a problem it's like you know the salesperson air i need this in half an hour you know and you know give you a business card and say i need a spot but it's got to say this this this this and this and this i'm like we have 60 seconds uh although i think a lot of commercials have gone to 15 seconds now you know i remember advocating for that like you know 30 years ago look go to 15 second commercials 60 second commercials are you know they're they're too long but for some reason they still write copy that's too long uh what do you do when it's too long well you have a couple of options one you tell the client you know this is too long you've sent me 45 seconds of copy for 30 seconds and unless you want me to talk really fast and get it all in there which is not what you want you want your message across clearly can we cut this down is there sentences we can take out and you collaborate with them to try and get it that way uh you can also try and speed it up a little bit but i have found in all of my career if that's the case diplomacy wins uh because the client does not want there's everything in there i mean they want everything in there but you learn to compromise and if it's on a national spot or it's a you know it's something big from a big agency what on earth are they doing writing 45 seconds a copy for a 30 second spot yeah i was gonna say if there if it's a big national spot you'll never probably never have to do that if it's a smaller you know market then maybe yeah but the good stuff is poetry the stuff them from the national you know national agencies it's just it's like it's refined it's tested and it's 30 seconds so have you ever have you ever done i i don't think you would ever do this tan but maybe you would have you ever recorded the entire script and then use this the pitch and speed pitch and time uh plug in and just sped it all the way up and then said okay this is what it would sound like i i have done that you know and and they're like oh all right could you can we cut some of the copy yeah you know is this sentence necessary is that sentence necessary you know i mean you gotta be diplomatic about it yes and don't be snarky no it's the way to lose a gig yeah right it's like okay you know can we work with this you know you've got way too much copy in here i mean i can talk faster but this is what it's gonna sound like and that's not what you want and they're usually like oh yeah oh yeah it's like okay so yeah be diplomatic about it i think is the best way to do it and you know try and get it you know in the time frame if you can if there's too much then you gotta say look this is not 30 seconds worth of copy this is much longer okay you get the next one here this one is from Matthew King uh i forgot to ask i uh last i had the chance but what would be the ideal starter audio interface they're important too right actually what is an interface sorry for the obvious question what is an audio interface everybody has to start somewhere Matthew it's right what does this little thing do it does two things uh number one it has a preamplifier in it which is really where the true quality of one of these things is uh you know we you know we've talked about a bunch of different interfaces you know about the the new uh vocaster and the evo four and the evo 16 and all these things they all the ones that are over 120 150 dollars all have excellent preamps in them now you were taught we were talking about the vocaster with uh at NAM he said 70 db of gain in there that's pretty good if it's 70s db of quiet gain that's even better it takes the low level signal that you know your condenser microphone produces uh and amplifies it then the other part of it is where you see the usb plug on the back is it takes that analog audio and turns it into the ones and zeros or plus and minuses that your computer understands as sound and gives a it has the actual sound in there and gives us the graphic representation of the waveform and some of the other things that you can get that's what the interface does and you can control the input gain from there a lot of people liking these usb mics that have an interface preamp and digital interface built into them but they're not quite as good as say a good solid unit like this it also will provide uh phantom power over here so you gotta have that with a studio condenser mic and all good interfaces have that except that that one what was it the uh oh the omni or whatever was called a barringer unit no no the mxl uh mic paint is that a well no the mic the mic mic the mic mate has one on it yeah it's not a good one and no i didn't say it was good but yeah yeah but a long time ago uh omega what was the name of the company i don't remember but they had it they had a preamp and an interface but it didn't have phantom power yeah the lexicon alpha lexicon alpha yeah yeah yeah yeah that did not have phantom power no phantom power but it also provides phantom power and that's what the interface does uh what would be an ideal starter interface focus right solo super duper you know a third generation got a great preamp and it does super you know and it might be the only one you ever need and they're not expensive like 120 dollars for one of those but also the yamaha's the ag03 or ag06 steinberg the steinberg uh you are what is it the 22 and the 12 and 12 yeah yeah those are those are all very very solid yeah the thing is yeah not a barringer yeah even the best barringer is not as good as the cheapest focus right i think yeah based on the reviews i've seen and always get an interface where there's one knob per function i you know that vocaster looks enticing but i'm telling you anytime one knob does more than one thing it can get a little more confusing to operate so if you're not a techy person go with the units that have a knob for gain a knob for headphones a button for phantom you know it's you're going to be happier but if you are techy and you like gadgets and you've not intimidated by it then those more sophisticated ones have a little bit more flexibility all righty grace newton yes all right guys i've moved and i need to treat a six and a half by seven foot walk in closet with four internal walls in a rental home what is the first thing you would do i would record some voice over room tone in there and see how noisy it is in there it might be the quietest place in your home or it might not so that's the best reason to use a closet is because it might be the quietest but it may not be right and you've got to record that so we can hear what noise is actually there because most of the noise that you're you know you think you don't hear is still there our brains tune it out because it's always there and you don't hear it but this guy doesn't have a brain it hears everything and throws it on your hard drive and yeah and we look at it and listen to it you hear that ceiling fan behind you or uh you know the attic fan or the refrigerator down the hall oh Christ yeah how many leaders vibrating yeah yeah like it in small you know open apartments it's like you might want to unplug your fridge you know just remember to plug it back in uh yeah uh and how would you treat it four internal walls in a rental home uh well you know orlex foam although you know i'm still finding harbor freight moving blankets work great but if you want to go a step up from there you know the vocal booth to go a producer's choice blanket blankets or audio mute those work really great too and that doesn't take a lot to hang them up if heavy dense blankets yeah in fact you're renting so i would get command strips hooks go on amazon type in command strict strips utility hooks right and now you can hang a bunch of those blankets from grommets without any damage to the walls and that is going to take you a long long way and that's a pretty big size room so it might seem small but that's pretty big so you might end up with really good results with just damping the walls with moving blankets the heavy moving blankets yeah the ones that weigh about 10 to 12 pounds per blanket they work great it's a great solution for for a closet especially a walking closet like that i had one over the weekend you know it's like she had some of the really cheap foam no not the orlex stuff and you know and i got it all on the wall and i'm like nah it's still pretty reflective so what did i do because she had a high ceiling was it the foam that comes vacuum packed and then you unpacked the bat you cut the back i'm i built her a cloud hey and that's go and this is going in you know in her that's going to make a big difference yeah oh man you can you can you know place it just the right height and and it will eliminate the the big room sound really fast especially with a high ceiling you know and you know it's amazing what you can do with with the you know weed covering uh douglas voice guy gets the last question of the night and he said uh did focus right improve the headphone levels did you give it a listen on there i i imagined it seems like every iteration of of an interface seems to have better headphone levels in it i hope so i i didn't i didn't uh the nature of doing what i was doing doing those reports i wish i could have but that the thing i the guy promised if i get out if i get in touch with him that he would get us one to two tests so um then i'll know for sure you know what the the output levels on the headphones are but they couldn't make it worse so it's gotta be better that's true yeah yeah it's gotta be better um let's just hope so they clearly listen to a huge amount of feedback from the users when they when they invent when they when they developed it so the i would be shocked if it couldn't drive headphones uh adequately well there's also a pretty long preview video or review video of this from mike del gaudio who's been on our show aka the booth junkie um if you go to youtube type in booth junkie vocaster and you'll see his much much longer in depth uh review actually of the unit he's got enough subscribers that they send him those things before they even reach the nam show uh that's uh yeah that's that's where he's at and he he will let you you'll find out more uh about in depth about the unit from watching his video okay and that's the end of the lightning round yay all right we got through 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