I'm Daniel, I'm part of the real-time Kernel team at Red Hat, and I'm also a post-doctoral researcher at the School of Spirits and Tata in PISA, where I try to live in between these two words of the development and research, right? So, relax. This is not a heavy talk. I'm not going to much details, but it's more an open-ended talk, presenting some talks and pointing to the directions, and people will see links on QR codes during the presentation, right? So, what is real-time, right? Real-time systems are computing systems that the correct behavior does not depend only on the functional behavior, but also on the timing behavior. That is, the logical result is only correct. It is produced before a given deadline. So, the response time is also important. In the real-time theory, the thing works somehow like this. So, we start to create a precise definition of the system, try to capture all the behaviors, and we try to imagine some algorithm, try to define the worst-case scenarios, and come up with some formulas to show that results are delivered before the deadline. There are some theories that are straightforward to understand, like the DDF for a single core, but there are others that are more complex, right? And when I say complex, it's in that complex that it generally requires some years of understanding of these mathematics behind real-time. So, the real-time system theory is generally considered a complex subject, because the mathematical reasoning is complex, and in order to facilitate the development of new theories, some assumptions are made to facilitate the reasoning, right? Like, assuming that the system is fully preemptive because it's easy to think in this way, assuming that the other process of a system are independent, that overheads are tolerable. And yes, things are this way because it would be too complex to be reviewed and established otherwise. And on the other corner, we have Linux, which has a more practical approach, right? The real-time Linux is not a single thing, but it's set a set of features that tries to provide a more deterministic behavior for Linux. And the approach works more like, okay, we have a metric to be maximized. For example, we have the scheduling latency. And some background is generally considered like, okay, in the theory, the preemptive model is a good thing for this, so we try to mimic that. And then some testing tools generally develop, right? And user-space testing tools like CycleTest, and this goes again for other metrics. So nowadays, the main features for the real-time Linux, we can say, which is the fully preemptive mode with preemptivity, we have a scheduled line, a lot with PI, and so on. But in the same way that mathematics, Linux is complex, and many times some assumptions are made to facilitate the development. For example, the preemptive mode of Linux is not the preemptive mode on the theory, because we can disable the preemption temporarily. In the same way, the scheduled lines accept some things that are not yet formalized, for example, Persepille threads mixed with a global schedule. But these things are accepted because otherwise it would be too complex and we would go nowhere else, right? So, in one hand, these things are good, these simplifications are good because they enable the progress, and they are enabling the set of environments, but they created this gap between the theory and practice. So, but, well, who cares about real-time Linux, and why is it important to try to put these two things together. In our current use case, we are seeing high-frequency trading, some embedded electronics, some low latency virtualization case that enables Linux and that push the real-time Linux forward. But in the future, we are starting more complex scenarios, right? We are starting to see a system with lots of real-time tests instead of having one real-time test for one per CPU. And we are seeing the users of Linux on safe critical systems. And here is where the things start to get more complex, right? Because safe critical systems require a more higher level of insurance of the system behavior with some evidence that it works correctly. And to the point that tests are good, but sometimes that other things like formal methods could make these events more strong and enable Linux for more complex safe critical environments. So, and here I'm back again with this theory and practice and try to make them together. Luckily, some things have changed in the near past, right? So, and here's an example with the preemption theory versus practice. So, with the preemption, the kernel becomes more preemptive, which is as preemptive as possible. Everything becomes a task. The preemption is enabled by default. And we have some good results measured by cyclic test to user space saying that, okay, my schedule latency is in this amount of microseconds. But this is good because, okay, it enabled Linux to be used on real time system and enable the developments of theory that relies on it like scan deadline. But yet there's no clear description of the factors that cause the latency. There's no evidence that worst case scenario was ever hit by cyclic test. So it's hard to convince a skeptical person, right? So, how can we try to make Linux more scientifically compliant, let's say, right? Well, we can try to follow that algorithm that people in the academia work, which is trying to create a precise definition of the system, create an algorithm trying to find worst case and define some set of equations. Luckily, and that's, that's something that we also see on the application of other things for, for safety critical. Most of the kernel are at work and there is the code that there and many times we don't actually need to create an algorithm but just to analyze Linux with a new perspective. Right. So, yes, it's possible to try such approach. For example, this schedule in latest definition, we said that schedule later definition is the longest time between the arrival of a highest priority job and when it starts to execution, it's on code. Then we created a formal model that represents all the kernel events that could cause this delay or that influence in this metric. From that, from all these events, we draw using a formal method, what could be the worst case scenario for this latest defined a set of variables and came up with a bounce for the schedule latency. And this was accepted by, by, by the real time kernel community in theory, right. So, this was a good evidence as a real time community because for a long time Linux was precise by being not explored academically right or not exploring in the same rigor that they use there. Things have changed now. We create some sort of theory that makes Linux up, but still right theory without practice is not that that useful for me as a developer right. So, we created also a practical schedule latency measurement to that uses that formula capture the events of the kernel that influence only variables of that formula, but still trying to minimize the overhead that it causes, right, because we need to deal with too much event. I don't have time here to explain this right but you can check the presentation of the Linux plumbers last year that I presented in the tie in details how these two works and it's available on my GitHub and you can check more about it on my, my web page. And it has an output that tells me how much latency, the system has considering some kinds of interrupts and where is the, from where did the latest came from which is, is it this variable or is it these interruptions. And with that, we could bound to gather the theory and perhaps right. And at the end, what one thing that we feared when trying to, to make this more pessimistic and worst case things from theory. We fear that the values would be too much pessimistic like not enabling limits anymore for the workloads that we were looking for. But instead, the results that we got where in that confirming what we thought what they think about things. Obviously, the latest reported by this more pessimistic that cover all the cases that shows the root case, the root cause. They are larger than cyclic test because cyclic test cannot get all the possible case or it will take too long to hit one of these pessimistic is still even with all the pessimism we are, we are below one millisecond like we show on some architectures. So, more complex architecture we show that it's still like, even being super pessimist, almost unrealistic pessimist, the latest it's, it's on the two or for my milliseconds, right, which might be too large for some use case that we are seeing but it's not for the automotive case, for example, and we have a strong evidence. So, with that work, can we say that Linux was directly proof as real time operating system. No, there's still a long way to go right. And the main point is that the focus of the print RT for example of the, of the major focus of the real time internal community was in the scheduling latency, but the schedule latency, even though it's a big part of the problem. It's not the main goal, the main goal is the response time of a test. It's not when a test starts to run but when the test ends the computation, and these involved soldered parts of the system, like, like scheduling and locking and then things get more complex. But, well, we have an example of this integration and what else can we do right. What is the lesson learned with these these theory joint with in the branch. We should start from practice should start from theory. The point is that may find that it's not a chicken egg problem. It's an evolution problem. Right. We need we need to balance and bring new things from theory and mixing it with new, new code and make things working together. Is there a way is there any evidence that is it's possible, given that the Linux curve evolves fast and that we are there or or that does this little external developers care that much about it. Right. And here we have another example with my great disabled so my great disabled is a synchronization mechanism from the prem 30 that temporarily avoids a task to be migrated from one processor to another. Right. It is good because it's a it avoids disabled the preemption that that causes the schedule and latency right that's why it's it's good in one hand. On the flip side, it breaks one assumption that we use on the schedulers which is being the working conserving like schedule line assumes it's working conserving. Or that is, that the, the M high guest trends will be able to run on the AM processors of a system. And this great discussion on LKML because some people were trying to to use my great disabled on the no print RT kernel because it would facilitate their lives. hand, it would create for us a problem on the scheduling subsystem. And during this discussion, when I say was when Peter came up with some some algorithm, okay, this is the algorithm I suggest to allow us to to mitigate this problem, we will create tools to to find the worst case. And we will also try to update this with the theory that we are creating. So that's a good example that we can go forward and continue to try to mix these these two words with the acceptance of the community as well, right, because the results are good at the end. So where else do we need to put effort on this, right? One point is the scan deadline and you can check my presentation in the future last year at DEVCOV. For example, currently, the design of the scan deadline doesn't allow tasks with different CPU masks to share a CPU, right, because of global schedule. But some per-CPU kernel threads need to run a scan deadline. For example, we might need to boost some per-CPU threads like RCU for a given time, right? So we have this need of having arbitrary priority affinities on the little square. We have some theories like the disembarkation or some level of dynamic partitioning that could be useful for that, but more resources is required. Another thing is that currently we ignore the overheads inside the system, right? And also the methodology that we use to test scan deadline is basically informal. We put some user-based tests to run and see if they reply before the deadline, but we don't try to understand what is going inside the operating system. And this had led us to have problems in the past, like with tasks deadline shorter than the period, for example. Another point is that with proxy execution that is currently on the primary T, we have the priority inversion protocol that works like this. If I have a highest priority thread waiting on a lower priority, this lower priority will inherit the priority of the high-guest to avoid a test with a mid-priority postponing all these batches, all these segments of people depending on the law. So this disembarkation, it works for single processors for fixed priority schedulers, like the FIFO scheduler, but not for, it was not designed like for multiple cores and neither designed for deadline-based schedulers, right? This protocol was later extended with a deadline inheritance, but it has some low issues and you can check it out on the presentation last year. There is this initiative that is implementing proxy execution that is promising. It's a good mechanism, but you still need some kind of background to get some corner cases. And so on. Well, this presentation was faster than I thought. So my final remarks are, okay, well, we had a lot of progress in the real-time Linux as a community in the last years, right, or last decade even, we are getting old. So we have the brand priority, we have schedule line, we have lots of tools. And most importantly, in the last years, we've been seeing this need of Linux on safe critical systems and now the automotive is not on the door, but there is even more, there is industry 4.0, there is the edge computing, there is also the low latency use case that we are at support, right? So these are demanding more sophisticated analysis, right? But for us to be able to give better response for the requests, for example, from our customers, but also to create this evidence that will enable real-time Linux to go further, to get new markets that require these more sophisticated kind of evidences and documentations that show that Linux works fine, right? And the difference between us and these older real-time operating systems that sometimes were designed to be real-time operating systems since the beginning that were designed with a certification on the mind to target and to get certification for this kind of application, right? Linux was not signed that way, and but still we can find a way to give these evidences based on the things that we already have and the scheduling and real-time community, it's well receptive for these more theoretical like work because it actually make our lives easier at the end, right? And it avoids us to facing problems in the future because we didn't take in consideration this crazy algorithm analysis that the academics are doing, right? And we have learned how to deal with it now. So, yeah, that's it. Thank you all. I have a lot of support from research people, so please check the red-red research booth. They are nice people and feel free to talk to me about the research as well. And that's it. Actually, we have two questions. The first is from Caroline. What about real-time on ARM? Okay. Each ARM board has its own set of problems that are derivated from the board support patch, right? Some have a driver's upstream, some doesn't. So, assuming that the hardware is upstream, support is upstream, there's no problem, right? The primitives of the primed RT, they are all architecture-independent. There might be now some clue on architecture-dependent code to make it work, but it's not necessarily part of the core of the real-time features. They're mostly all hardware-independent. So, yes, primed RT on ARM, it works. The people that work on ARM, they support the development of primed RT and these kind of features. So, yeah, it works. And we are ready. Assuming that the board support patch is upstream or it works fine. Okay. Thank you for the reply. We have a more question for you. So, get ready. Oleksandar is making more deeply, more technically. I don't know if you are able to read or show to us. Okay. He's pointing out that some part of the kernel for instance, transparent use tables are currently not compatible with preemptive real-time. Yes. And he's asking if this blocker for upstream primed RT. So, the last question first. No, it's not a blocker for the primed RT upstream. It's not disabled for all the cases. It's disabled on our kernel because it might hold the virtual memory lock semaphore for too long. And there are some use cases of people that, because of doing that their applications were designed, this caused an under-termism. Because it's not because of the primed RT. It's because the virtual memory semaphore, it's a huge kernel lock and can cause this kind of issues. Again, it's not primed RT. It's just because it's a big kernel lock and it's been quite a while that people are trying to find a way to improve it. It's not easy. So, yes, the transparent huge page is disabled. Also, this kind of heuristic work generally not required that much for many users on the primed RT because they actually like to reserve, they reserve by themselves manually instead of trying to use some risks like the transparent huge page. Thank you. Actually, there are a lot of questions. I'm trying to go one by one. The most voted one will be the next one. And that is from William. Has there been interest from the new automotive engineering effort to using the real-time kernel? Yes, yes. Mainly for the requirement of safe creatures. Looking forward, and next is from Daniel. I see a need for real-time workload inside the KVM virtual machine. What do you take on that? It works. There's even a team on Red Hat. Luis Captolino is the head of the team that we have been working as a team for three or four years already, making the KVM RT and the kernel RT working together well. We have good results, but still it's just being applied for a single use case, which is Telco. And the results are quite impressive. But I advise you to talk to Luis about these more, okay, these other needs other than Telco with the KVM RT. Luis can give you a more business-like answer for this. Yeah, thank you. He's going to hear about this. We have also one question from Varan. What about SMIs x86 or any other hypervisor does the prem 30 determinist still hold? Yes, and also it's a good point because the SMI looks like a hyper like if the bare metal becomes a hypervisor, right? We have a something on a lower level that stalls the operating system that runs on top of it, right? It does not change the way that the prem 30 works. The prem 30 is still deterministic. It's just that you need to account these interference from the lower level layer, right? So if your SMIs run for like 10 microseconds and still these 10 microseconds on top of the latency of the prem 30 doesn't cause you a failure or if it's still good for you, it's okay, right? It's just to get another workload. So it does not affect the prem 30 model. It's just affect the results that you achieve on that architecture. But if it's a hardware or if it's an operating machine, okay, Caroline, what is missing to make Linux safe, critical for automotive? Lots of things, lots of things, standardization, creating more evidences, try to understand what are the evidences that we need to create. And there is an effort now I really had to try to figure this out. Will that happen? Yes, for sure, for sure. As to the follow us on issues, okay, the follow us is another thing, right? Linux will probably use no safe critical, right? But some are low level of criticality now, right? It will not control brakes, it will not control the steering wheel, but it can control like dashboards or other things that require timing and safety. But, but it's still the, the ASU B level, which is the ASU D is something that is more complex. But anyways, there's no need for Linux to be the full OS. There is a lot of problems to be resolved. I hope in the future we can achieve such a level of, of confidence in results, right? It will take some time, I think. Personal take.


his book Stones to Abigail For as long as I can remember I've enjoyed seeing how people move around And talk to each other Like they're all animals at the zoo I would try to deliver a more accurate analogy If I felt there was one But so many of them seemed incredibly unaware of themselves Just living life as if it were some generic predefined routine Sometimes I felt like an alien Who had a VIP pass to submerge myself In primitive human culture just for entertainment Um Delusions of grandeur much In an excerpt from This Is Why I Hate You How do you express yourself to people When you don't feel they're worth the time They wouldn't even begin to understand me if I tried If I even began to try and explain what was going on in my mind On a daily basis to the average person I would be thrown in a padded cell How do you express yourself to people When they're living in an entirely different world than you They're living a goddamn lie And they can't help it Because they barely qualify as self-aware Onision seems to think that everyone else in the world Is just an NPC And he's the only one who's experiencing this human existence Greg has done a lot of questionable videos on YouTube Hey, Greggie Poo Remember when you did the Guess My Age videos? The internet remembers? Why would a married man have such an obsession With the ages of his fans? I really wonder With the video titles like Are these people legal? Guess their age What? Guess their age Guess how old these girls are? Guess how old these girls are? Challenge Well, if they're called girls You shouldn't be wanting to know their age Teen challenge Age laws What? Have Onision rate you 1 through 10 Have a zero rate me? No, thank you Age challenged relationships Oh my goodness I like how when he was debating Blair White He said you couldn't guess someone's age Just by looking at them And here he is Trying to guess people's ages just by looking at them When Blair and Gregg debate Blair White talks about How there's a lot of underage looking girls On Onision's forums And his retort is something else So when I see you making videos Just fraudulent So when I see you So when I see you making videos Of 13-year-old girls 15-year-old girls How even 17-year-old girls It's really weird You know girls in leggings And sports bras And you know your name written on their His And your name I'm gonna have to meet you If you just talk over me I'll let you talk after I'm done I promise I'll let you talk But when I see like Onision written on their hip bones These young girls And like girls in sports bras And you know I have actually The receipts I actually have the archives of your forums Up on my browser right now of all these girls Very scantily clad Very underage Very underdeveloped You don't know their age though That's the problem You can tell Yeah, you can actually tell By looking at them That they're extremely thin Yeah Actually And what you like to do What you like to do They did somebody who was 19 And they were not developed So I'm sure that's how you like them Greg I'm sure you like them very underdeveloped But the point is Actually I like I like people of Like Of all ages Or not developed so long as they're You know past Uberdy by like Greg, you just stated that you like girls who are not developed Are you And you want to be mad at me for making you look like a creep No You just have to be out of your stuff That I learned a variety of mature women Greg also had a period of time In 2016 Where he made constant videos About Eugenia Cooney So this is a recent status from Eugenia Cooney If you're having trouble locating her in the photo She's directly in the middle She's actually holding that phone You see hovering there Onision even made a video Pretending to be Eugenia Cooney in the Sims Making fun of her constantly Now I'm not sure if I should even show clips From this video Because it's clear that videos like this Not only in general Trigger those with EDs But also Eugenia has stated She doesn't like these videos And I can't imagine how it could affect Her mental health to continue to see videos like these But just to show how low Greg stooped I'll show a quick clip from this video One of the least harmful parts Just to show how disgusting Greg is This is a story of a girl named Eugenia Cooney A YouTuber who influences hundreds of thousands But for some reason Her refrigerator appears to not In the span of a year His videos would ping pong back and forth From being positive about Eugenia Cooney Now we're going to google skinny supermodel And we'll see if she better fits in that crowd Yep that's basically Eugenia Cooney's body Once again that looks like Eugenia Cooney to me And there you go So basically Eugenia Cooney has the body of a skinny supermodel To pretending to care for Eugenia Cooney And Eugenia's health I feel like it's completely reasonable at this point To be seriously concerned about Eugenia Cooney Eugenia Let's say we'll give you a month You have a month to show progress To gain weight It's not a video created for the sake of drama This is an incredibly serious issue That absolutely needs to be addressed By literally every YouTuber and person Who crosses paths with Eugenia Cooney Eugenia would even go on you now And say that Greg's videos were not helping the situation Super soon after He made like one video towards me That wasn't exactly very nice And then from there just kind of kept Making more and more Ah, of course Eugenia Cooney would pop up Someone did Photoshop on her And how good she would look If she actually had some pounds on her And she'd need to eat more food Greg continued to make videos on Eugenia Even confessing that he did this Because the videos always do extremely well Something you should understand Is that the point of me making these videos Is not to hurt Eugenia Cooney But I want this to be my final video on Eugenia Cooney Despite the fact that a huge amount of you Have shown significant interest In the last two videos I made about Eugenia at one point had to go onto Twitter To defend from misinformation That Greg was spreading about her Eventually Greg decided to stop making videos Even though he claimed he could continue Making millions upon millions of views from them Regardless I know I can make plenty of more Eugenia videos To get millions upon millions of collective views from them But I am officially resigning from the topic In 2017 Greg and Kai began to search for a new third During this time Greg had grown a community through Patreon Discord and YouNow And Greg invited several female fans That he met through these platforms to his home To be his camera person Greg never seemed to invite any male fans To be his camera person And Greg also did not seek any fans Who had any camera experience Greg claimed he was looking for hardcore fans And encouraged women who did not have any camera experience To learn how to operate a camera This on top of the fact that Greg was perfectly fine Operating a camera on his own up until now Added to the theory that Greg was using his needing a camera man As the guys to invite women into his home Who he was romantically interested in After Greg messaged me on Twitter saying How would you like to come out to do camera work with us? Camera work Yes camera work What did you did you have any training as a photographer a videographer? No absolutely none So I knew I knew it was just an excuse to have me over One of those women was Beck Beck says she found Greg through a recommended video when she was 20 Beck then found Kai through Greg's videos And immediately became and yammered with them And Beck joined Greg's Patreon And began interacting with Greg through his Discord voice chat And with Kai through his YouNow streams Beck says she found Kai attractive And eventually wanted to be romantic with him So she began frequently donating to Kai's YouNow streams To get his attention And Beck estimates she donated about 200 to 300 dollars I saw that Kai was streaming And Greg had a Discord And then later on through YouNow I started talking to Kai through mainly He would notice me when I donated On July 26, 2017, Beck recorded and uploaded a song for Kai Which she named a like song Because she didn't want to call it a love song According to Beck, Kai and Greg loved the song And Kai told her he wanted to see where things go So the two began speaking privately I was probably the main pursuer in it The way that I actually got Kai to notice me Besides donating all the time was I wrote him a song He thought it was a beautiful song And that's actually how I started talking to Kai privately Was after that song He said that he wanted to see where things would go after that Beck says after being contacted by Kai She spoke to Greg about almost everything And spoke with Kai through texts and streams And around this time, Greg invited Beck to their home To do camera work for them Beck had no experience with the camera And knew that this was just an excuse to have her over After Kai told me that he liked me And he wanted to see where things were going A couple days after, Greg messaged me on Twitter saying How would you like to come out to do camera work with us? Did you have any training as a photographer? A videographer? No, absolutely none So I knew it was just an excuse to have me over On August 7th, Beck tweeted There will be shaving cream in my ear for the rest of my life And I've accepted it And some people thought this was a hint at a video That she must have filmed with Greg Suspicions were confirmed When Greg uploaded a Patreon exclusive video Titled, I flew a Patreon out The post featured a new video dubbed cream people With himself and Beck covered in shaving cream The video was uploaded to Onision's main channel The next day titled What Onision does with his fans Shaving cream Was that money worth it looking at? No, definitely not Some viewers were shocked that Onision and Beck Were so physical with one another During the shaving cream scenes While Beck was staying with Onision and Kai Beck would continue to appear in Greg's You Now streams And in his videos But Beck would never appear in any of Kai's streams So many suspected that Kai did not get along with Beck Which Kai confirmed when he said that he High-key wanted to die in a stream When Beck was over Because he was tired of people betraying his trust Why do you want to die? Because I'm very stressed And I'm very tired of people breaking my trust On the stream, he says that Greg did tell him He was going to fly back out But never told him when he would do it Or that he bought the tickets While Kai was streaming, Beck took to Discord To live post about clogging Greg and Kai's toilet Because of this, during Kai's stream Kai was bombarded with comments about Beck and the toilet And a few days later Greg uploaded Onision's sketch video About the toilet situation What's going on? Beck says that while she was staying at Greg and Kai's house Greg told her that he didn't feel like he was talking to a 20-year-old But that he felt like he was talking to someone the same age as him I felt like he was talking to someone who was the same age as me Kai, on the other hand, was cold to her And would avoid being in the same room as her Kai was really, really just cold to me Um Was there anything romantic during that trip with you and Kai? No, no What did Kai treat you during that trip, during your visit? Just awfully, like, he never wanted to be in the same room with me He apparently was talking about me with Sarah, who was there at the time And Beck claims that when Kai and Sarah were playing around and running upstairs Greg looked at her and said If Kai were acting like this when I first met him, I wouldn't have married him Sam began tweeting at Greg in 2016 In August of 2016, Greg ran an art contest for his fans And Sam submitted a drawing that she made of Greg and Kai With over 500 likes, Sam won the art contest And Greg sent Sam a MacBook for winning the contest In January of 2018, Greg flew Sam to his and Kai's home for the first time And Greg introduced Sam online to his fans as his camera person Greg says that Sam initially visited to get away from her controlling mother And Greg said that Sam came to him for advice About whether or not to join the Air Force But that Greg suggested that instead of joining the Air Force She should just come and live with him That's totally normal, right? And the deal was that Sam would work for Greg for free In exchange for living rent-free in his home Sam claimed that before she moved in Her and Greg agreed that they would not be in a relationship But according to Sam, Greg did not tell Kai that Sam would be moving in Sam claims that this caused Kai to be uncomfortable about Sam being there When asked about his relationship with Sam during his stream, Greg said Just think of Sam as a person, not anything else People are weird when I'm around women But life is far less weird in real life Why do you think people are weird when you're around women, Greg? Why do you think you have that reputation? Throughout her stay, Sam did a lot of artistic work for Anisean Since her main passion was working as an artist She also filmed a lot of sketches with Greg as well Gregory? Yeses I believe I am pregnant Oh my god, dapper girl Whose baby is it? Whose baby is it? How could you say that to me? I just mean you've been with many of the men I would not assume it is me I have only ever been with the you No It was you No You put it in my womb I would Just what you are saying to me There is a growing in it This cannot be a true thing from your mouth You did this, you will be the responsible And also worked on her Twitch streaming But according to Greg, while in the shower together Kai told Greg that Sam made him uncomfortable And because of this, Greg decided Sam had to go So he sent her a text saying Hey, you gotta leave According to Sam, the last week she was there was extremely awkward Greg would tell her that he wanted her to stay But Sam could hear him talking shit to Kai About her behind her back And then Greg would hand her a plane ticket After Sam moved out, things got very messy online Then in various live streams Greg went on to accuse Sam of being a Oh, and a home wrecker And Sam in her live streams would accuse Greg Of not being honest about his intentions When he flew her out to his home I don't know, I think her trust is stronger than ever A straight up tail on home That's true Sam claimed that Greg had a habit of hugging her While she was living at his and Kai's home And while he was hugging her His hands would travel to inappropriate places Onision went on to claim that Sam Made him uncomfortable with her action But he never said anything about it When she was living there And while my general opinion on the situation Is that this entire situation was at the very least A very toxic work environment Imagine someone offers for you to work for them But you have to live at their house And the entire time you're getting mixed signals About whether or not you're in a relationship with them Their partner's also living at the house And their partner hates you And you're not really getting paid You're just living in their house for free And there's children in this environment Somewhere in the mix No, thank you Worst of all, Greg emailed a select number Of his high paying fans Images of him and Sam's private conversations Greg made screenshots of his and Sam's Private conversations of Patreon perk Fans who paid him $30 or more Could have access to the screenshots Again, Greg became a master Off of capitalizing and profiting Off of the trauma that he put young girls through Which has to be even more traumatizing For these young women So Sam responded to this Through releasing her own screenshots Through a member of a drama image board Along with a message that stated Hey guys, thanks for still supporting me Off of all the stuff that's been happening I'm in a weird place Because I've made it clear That I don't mean Greg any harm But it's come to my attention That he's made access to our private emails A Patreon perk I feel pretty violated But he feels entitled to sharing this Because well, it's Greg He keeps calling me a hope and a home wrecker I hope you guys don't judge me for sharing But I feel like I'm being bullied And I'm trying to stand up for myself And unfortunately, Sam was not the last Of the women that Greg has traumatized According to Sarah At age 11 or 12 She found Greg's videos Through recommendations on YouTube Sarah said she was in a really bad place In her personal life When she found Greg's videos And that Greg's videos influenced A lot of her opinions at the time I went on YouTube And I just saw his videos pop up And I was really like 11 or 12 Oh, this guy, he's talking about like self And all of this kind of stuff And you know, he's really like Speaking to me with all of this like Self positivity And like I was in a really bad place So seeing all that really made me gravitate towards him Sarah claimed that when Greg introduced Kai to his audience At around 2012 Sarah became even more of a fan of Kai's Than she was of Greg's When Greg introduced to his audience I became a huge fan Even more so than of Greg's At this point, Kai was mostly active on Tumblr and Twitter And gained fans through those platforms And his appearances in Greg's videos Sarah claims that the first time she contacted Kai Was when Sarah was only 13 Sarah emailed Kai about not being able to get Into his Onision forums And he answered her with advice on how to get in When she was 13 Sarah also began tweeting Kai at that point I actually reached out through Twitter Um, and I would just like either I would tweet him a couple times But I really started tweeting his uh His spouse Kai A lot And those tweets are what first got Kai to notice Sarah And um, that's kind of who first noticed me And Sarah claims that Kai began making Sarah His woman crush Wednesday And they would always respond back to me or Kai would you know make me his like Woman crush Wednesday When Sarah was only 13 When I started tweeting them I was 13 Sarah soon joined a kick group chat dedicated to Kai's fans In which Kai would use the group chat to talk to his fans We all three would talk all the time Like honestly when we first became friends We didn't talk just together very often We were me her and Regina were part of a group chat And we talked and that's like all we did I wasn't like nobody was in a relationship or anything like that Regina who was a teenage fan turned Kai's online friend Started a friendship with Sarah through this online chat And Kai noticed their friendship and asked Regina if Sarah was trustworthy You should be asking yourself that Eventually Kai DMed Sarah asking Sarah how old she was And Sarah told Kai that she was 14 And Kai told her that she looked older Sarah claimed that by the time she and Kai began talking She was in a very dark place in her personal life She had wanted something good to happen to her And she had felt like talking to Kai was that good thing For everything else that was going wrong Sarah described herself as quiet and insecure at school And felt like her friendship with Kai at the time was validating Because her idol was talking to her She felt special for getting attention from Kai Like it was meant to be When I first started talking to Kai He identified as a woman and as straight So I just thought of it as like a friendship It was in a very dark place I was just quiet I was insecure and this made me feel some sort of like Validation that like hey yeah you know what You're cool to see Like your idols are talking to you You're in on this with this celebrity couple so to speak Which of course we know as adults That it's a very unhealthy dynamic Not only because Kai has a power dynamic Being famous talking to a fan But also because of the age gap Sarah being young at the time and immature and naive At age 14 Sarah received a message from Kai Stating that he was about to delete kick And giving Sarah his phone number He sent me a message that said I'm about to delete this app Here's my phone number And he gave me his phone number And at this time I was 14 Sarah, Regina and Kai began talking altogether In a group chat and calling themselves The three musketeers Sarah claims that Kai began talking about His life with Greg in the group chat Even talking about how big Greg's b*****s was Both Regina and Sarah Claimed that Kai began exchanging Thirst traps or inappropriate photos With them in the group chat Their claims can even be backed up by public evidence In January of 2015 Kai tweeted an image of himself Described as a thirst trap courtesy of Sarah The image featured Kai laying suggestively With a censored bar covering his body And many viewers called Kai out For sending such an inappropriate photo To a minor Sarah claims that her and Kai became really close And would face time all the time And stay up late together She claimed she did whatever Kai wanted to do Because she was such a huge fan Kai told Sarah that he was worried About Greg knowing that he had an online 14-year-old friend Regina also claims in her early Skype calls With Kai Kai would try and hide her from Greg But Sarah claims that the first time Kai showed a picture of her to Greg Greg replied, Oh, she's cute And Regina claims that the three of them Her, Kai, and Sarah Would speak about how they could all run away together To get Kai away from Greg This is something Sarah claims She would continue to speak to Kai about over the years When Greg and Kai would have a bad fight Kai would text Sarah Zillow time And the two would look at houses That they allegedly planned to move into together When they would run away In January 2015 Sarah changed her name to Jailbait Kai admits he used that name with Sarah But claims it was the internet who came up with that name At one point Kai even tweeted at Sarah Saying, I'm growing you nicely Kai even once tweeted at Sarah I'm in love with you Eventually Kai and Sarah's interactions Turned into a full on emotional relationship But Kai and I romantically talked When I was 15 years old Sarah claims that when Kai and Sarah Would play 20 questions Kai would ask her if she was Siv And or a scotch Sarah says now looking back She was only 15 And did not know about any of that Sarah also claims she sent at least one photo To Kai at the age of 15 There was at least one picture That I had sent of me when I was 15 To Kai Zero inappropriate photo exchanges Sarah says Greg and Kai began Planning Sarah's first visit When she was 15 years old Sarah also claimed that Greg and Kai Deliberately planned on waiting For Sarah to turn 16 Until she could visit Because the legal age of consent in Washington Is 16 And did they hold off Did they hold off until you were 16 And why was that So they wouldn't be breaking the law It was agreed upon by them And then they told me that They weren't gonna like Have me visit or anything for When I was 16 to go up there Because the legal age of consent in Washington is 16 During Sarah's first visit Greg would allegedly pat her hair And say You're so mature for your age I feel like I'm hanging out with a 20 year old Sarah also claimed that Kai would put his legs on her And said it was a weird vibe Sarah also claims that one of the first things That Greg said to her was Your face looks like how cream soda feels Going down your throat I remember seeing Greg for the first time in person too He was really nice to me Kind of a weird way though One of the first things he said to me was That my face looked like how cream soda feels Going down your throat Then a little later on Sarah was invited to live at Kai and Greg's house When she was only 16 years old Due to problems that were going on in her personal life I was going through a lot But one night after some really not so great stuff went down I was outside crying texting my best friend Kai And he said that he was seriously going to talk to Greg about me living there Sarah's mother signed over power of attorney to Kai in November of 2016 This was apparently so that if there was a medical emergency Kai and Greg would have the rights to make medical decisions for Sarah And Sarah claims that Greg joked that they would have the right to pull the plug on her Sarah also said that at this point Her mother was not aware of this little stuff that she claimed went on between her and Kai Due to Kai gaining power of attorney over Sarah Kai had full control over Sarah's bank account until Sarah turned 18 Sarah claims at some point in the future Kai admitted to her that whenever they would get into a fight He would check her bank statements to find out where she was and what she was doing Sarah lived in the house during the time that both Billy and Ayala were there And both of them have spoken about how much Sarah would clean the house And take care of Greg and Kai's children At the age of 16 Billy says she felt like Sarah was there to clean up and babysit for Greg and Kai Sarah was there to like help clean up Or at least that's kind of like what they like tend to get her to do Using them as like their maid or their nanny and all of those things We are not in nanny Sarah, we are not paying Sarah She is not a nanny If they didn't do those things Like if Sarah was not watching the kids up to par Like they would threaten to send her home Just to clear that up But unfortunately there was even more darkness going on behind the scenes In the lawsuit that Sarah filed in 2023 Against Greg and Kai Sarah reported more accusations of inappropriate behavior That happened while she was 18 Sarah claimed that Greg would caress her face and hand feed her bites of food She claimed that both Greg and Kai would touch her legs and tickle her She also claimed that she would receive inappropriate full body massages From Greg during this time Amongst a lot of other things detailed in the lawsuit The girl was very subtle to someone who was 16 Sarah was eventually sent home As Greg and Kai have a tendency to do with everyone But asked to come back when she was 17 To have an official job as their nanny and cleaner Sarah claimed that one day when she and Greg were shopping at Walmart She was joking around about shitty things that Greg had done to her When she talked about an incident When Greg had remarked about her booty saying Dat booty dough She claimed that Greg started freaking out And asking about what he did And if it was actual She said he was yelling at her and so she started crying She claims he said You're going to ruin my career This is exactly what Kevin Spacey went through She said when they got home Greg ran in to tell Kai And said that Sarah needed to leave Sarah claimed that Kai stuck up for her And said that Sarah had a job there But Greg didn't care because has he ever He freaked the fuck out on me Like in a Walmart And yelling at me all this So I started freaking out and I was crying And he like we got home and he like Ran in to go tell Kai what had happened You have to like leave or whatever So once again Sarah was sent back home But Greg and Kai began planning again For Sarah to come back out to visit around her 18th birthday Only this time Greg acted completely different around Sarah The last time she visited Greg was yelling at her But this time Greg came to pick her up at the airport And was hugging her He wasn't being cold or distant towards her anymore And was being talkative I got picked up at the airport by Greg As soon as I got off the plane He like bear hugged me The last time I saw him we were like He was like yelling at me So I was like okay like what's going on Sarah believed this was because she had lost weight Grew her hair out and had matured physically She claimed that Greg even made a comment about it Saying girl next door moves back and she's super hot now I just grown up And like I had kind of blossomed He said something about this Like girl next door moves back and she's like Super hot now Sarah says she also believes that Greg was strategically mean to her in the past To batter down her self-esteem So that when he was finally nice to her And would suggest a relationship between them Her guard would be down Sarah also thought that he broke her down So he could build her back up to whatever he wanted Because a month before Sarah turned 18 Kai revealed that he and Greg were open to being romantic or sexual with her Sarah claimed that Greg would become a puppet master with her and Kai Telling them exactly what to do He was like the puppet master He was being like oh you guys should do this And Sarah knew that Greg could never be in a three-way relationship Where he didn't also get to be with the girlfriend So in order to be in a relationship with Kai Which Sarah desperately wanted She knew she would have to be with Greg as well I knew Greg could never be in a three-way relationship Where he didn't also get to be with the girlfriend Which sounds coercive If not like forcing someone to be in a relationship with another person In order to get to a relationship with the person that they really want It's just all so twisted Sarah claimed whenever she arrived back home Greg would pressure her to visit He would call her late at night telling her he missed her She said that one time her and Kai were fighting So she told Greg she was not going to visit And he began crying over the phone At one point Kai was planning on visiting family out of state with their children And Greg flew Sarah out while his family was away So they could have the house to themselves Sarah claims Greg even cancelled plans with his youtuber friends to be with Sarah Greg says that during this time he took Sarah to see the live action Aladdin movie And that in the theater Sarah would look up at him wanting to make out with him But that he didn't want to because Aladdin was such a good movie And the vibe was off Greg claims that Sarah guilt tripped him And shamed him for not wanting to make out with her And he said that the way she was acting was being creepy She was creepy in the Aladdin movie Let me show you what Sarah did Okay I'm watching Aladdin I'm turning sideways because I'm a little taller than her And I was looking down to my left that's where she was And she does this Up in me during the movie Like like you know in the movie she's like shaming me It was off and I didn't feel comfortable doing that right then So she was shaming me So on the second day of the trip Greg broke up with Sarah And Greg says that one of the reasons he broke up with Sarah Was because of the way she acted in the Aladdin movie I'm sorry I'm laughing it's not funny But Greg just can't be normal for two seconds He said the other reason was he realized Sarah just wanted him And wasn't trying to make it work with Kai And then after the film she guilt tripped me for not making out with her And that really really turned me off I was like this is really weird Because you keep acting like I'm just your solo boyfriend And we're supposed to be talking about Kai We're supposed to be thinking about Kai And building that relationship with Kai And making things work with Kai And all you seem to care about is me Although now Greg claims that Sarah is evil and immoral And was blackmailing him into having sex with her I realized that what their intentions were were absolutely evil on every level These things were piling up in my mind as a moral and horrible etc So I was like I can't keep doing this Like you're right now you simply extorted us You got us into this and we didn't want to be with you After Greg broke up with Sarah When she left the house she had no money No car and nowhere to go She didn't want to spend money on a hotel And it was too late to call her friend So she planned on sleeping on the street Sarah says after three hours Kai called her to check on her And convinced her to come back to the house And then she left with her luggage And then eventually she came back Because she had nowhere to go She was waiting, she had days until her flight Like where are you going? The story of Sarah is a really important story of why boundaries Especially between content creators and their younger fans Need to be established Because it can be so easy For content creators to manipulate their younger fans And for something like this to happen On September 12th of 2019 Greg's daughter supposedly fell out of a two-story window Resulting in her cracking her head open I'm extremely, extremely worried about his kids Like I had my concerns before But after learning what I learned today I'm actually really terrified for them The deputy explained that James Jackson called 911 And reported that his two-year-old daughter Had fallen out of a second-story window By pushing the screen out The deputy said he had been out to the residence before So he's had to return to the house multiple times for other things And I'll come back to that later He went out to the residence before to assist child protective services In checking that the children are okay, basically Greg supposedly took a video of the aftermath of the incident When the police questioned why he did this Greg claimed it was to ensure that the doctors knew that he was not responsible Citing an incident that took place years earlier Regardless, the police allegedly thought this was strange I asked Onision why he took the video He said he wanted to be able to show the doctor exactly where she had fallen His explanation for why he took the video seemed strange to me That was the next sentence Same, same The craziest thing is Over the coming days after this incident Onision tweeted several tweets Like this one Stand in front of the window over there The world should see how pathetic and helpless you are I'm going to humiliate you And right before you lose consciousness I'm going to destroy you Am I being taped? You are being taped Oh, crap Chris Hansen is American television personality And investigative journalist Who's best known for his work on the TV series To catch a picture I'm Chris Hansen No, you're not Is it? No, you're not Yes, sir And in 2019, Chris Hansen became involved in the Onision story Although, unfortunately, his involvement with the Onision storyline Wouldn't necessarily end with the justice that everyone was hoping for In 2019, Greg and Kai were accused by several women of killing them when they were underage Six other women accused Greg of abuse as well And Greg would continually deny these allegations In 2019, some of these women were interviewed on Chris Hansen's YouTube livestream Called Havacy with Chris Hansen Then on January 4th of 2021, a three-episode docuseries titled Onision in real life Premiered on Discovery's streaming platform It featured an interview with Onision's estranged father Randy Who talked about Onision's violent past and how he attacked him YouTuber Eugenia Cooney who talked about Onision's harassment campaign against her And the docuseries also featured Shiloh The entirety of this journey in the last 12 years has really been me thinking That I was totally alone in it When I found out there were others like me, it kind of ended along 12 years Of me thinking that there was nobody else that could understand what I was going through I felt a little less crazy for sure, Shiloh said Hansen's interview series gained popularity and even cumulated into An attempt to confront Onision outside his own home Night won't mind, what are you recording? Hi, there's a person who's been stalking me online and they just showed up to my house Stalking you?  This would be a great opportunity for you guys to tell your side of the story here Talk about the controversy Prompting the YouTuber to file for a restraining order against Repsion And the wrong Chris Hansen Hi and Greg filed petitions for orders of protection Against Chris Hansen and the YouTuber Repsion Who made a ton of videos calling out Onision during the time all the drama reached ahead The protection order against Hansen however could not be granted Mainly because the wrong Chris Hansen was served papers According to Mike Morse law firm The wrong Chris Hansen responded in a court statement saying I, Chris Hansen, request a motion to dismiss the complaint From the plaintiff due to improper service I have nothing to do with this very public case And do not know the petitioner or the intended respondent This case involves an ongoing investigation Of the petitioner by investigative journalist Chris Hansen Former host of the show to catch a predator I am not Chris Hansen from to catch a predator Given that I'm not the intended recipient of this complaint There shouldn't be a case against me I'm not the person the plaintiff is seeking harassment protection from The court dates were posted online and spread And Greg ended up attending court Which ended up becoming a massive drama online As people reacted to, well, his court appearance and the attire he wore People also recorded videos of Onision in court and posted them online And Greg did end up appearing in court with Repsion But once Greg appeared in court He also asked that the petitions be dismissed And luckily Repsion raised a GoFundMe to cover the legal fees Which helped in that aspect Even if it ended up being a big waste of everyone's time Have a seat with Chris Hansen Sparked the survivor-led campaign Hashtag D Platform Press Which called for social media sites to ban Onision Newsweek obtained a call log from the police department That states that the FBI has opened a case And are reviewing Onision's video content Following public concern The problem is viewers eventually lost trust in Chris Hansen Due to his web producer Vincent Nicotra Who allegedly didn't pass along vital evidence to the proper authorities And was eventually arrested for aggravated harassment In September of 2020 Hansen tweeted that there was not much he could say Since Nicotra was under an active investigation As you know I have recently been reviewing the actions online And in person of my web producer Vincent Nicotra Things he's said and done without my permission And without my knowledge I've come to the conclusion that I can't condone much of what he's said and done And I can no longer work with him in any way going forward He's not going to be involved in any further projects I do want you to know that I will continue our very important investigation into YouTube streamer Onision and the impact of his actions on his victims I am in constant contact with law enforcement investigators to forward this project And I promise you that I will continue to treat the victims in these cases With the utmost respect and dignity they deserve Already this was bad publicity for Chris Hansen and his coverage of Onision And it was additionally reported Hansen signed a deal with Investigation Discovery To do a TV series on the Onision story Which sparked a debate in the YouTube community over who's story this is to tell in the first place What's going on with this Chris Hansen investigation? It was obviously a massive hype train around seven months ago A lot of people were making videos on it A lot of people were talking about it It was quite genuinely the biggest topic on YouTube for a good week or so And people have been wondering where is Chris Hansen? What is he doing? Because originally everyone thought Chris Hansen would be the guy to take down Onision Chris Hansen allegedly selling the Onision story to a major television network To Chris Hansen being exposed by other YouTubers To Chris Hansen seemingly abandoning the story for other cases And also Chris working with a lot of shady people With their own allegations against them And also the possibility of doxers being involved Which is unfortunate because it all distracts from the larger issue at hand There are so many victims in this story This story, the story of Onision, is a story that spans across, well, Onision's entire life A pattern that repeats itself time and time again That you can see pop up from the moment Onision starts to obsess about relationships Where you can see Onision perfect his craft of manipulation Victimize women again and again and profit from it Utilizing his platform as a way to participate in the events And the entire discussion over Chris Hansen And the docuseries that he well profited off of as well Is just further profiting off of these survivors trauma After Onision did that as well Repsion even said that several of the victims said They did not want their stories or trauma told on national TV And I was told their stories would be included regardless of their consent or not Most of the victims have disassociated with Chris Hansen Because they felt lied to, betrayed and exploited So what can the survivors do? What's the right way to tell their story? Or the right way to seek justice? Sometimes going through different government entities can take a long time And they have to deal with reliving their trauma again and again Through different people who may not believe them Or may not be used to the YouTube platform Well, there is another option And that's the route of taking legal action through pursuing a lawsuit On February 9th of 2023 It was reported that a lawsuit is being filed against Gregory Jackson and Kai Averro For using Onision's popular YouTube channels To recruit, solicit and grow underage children into having sex with him With YouTube and its parent company Google also named in the lawsuit As co-defendants for continuing to monetize his channels The plaintiff Regina Alonso mentioned in the Sarah chapter Alleges that Averro engaged in flirtatious conversation with them when they were a minor Sent them pictures and attempted to bring them to, well, their Washington state home Then on March 2nd of 2023 A second lawsuit was filed against Greg and Kai As well as YouTube and Google This time by Sarah She was groomed by one of the most famous YouTubers And his spouse when she was just a teen He told you in that exclusive interview That he doesn't even know the woman who named him in the lawsuit Reliving and re-talking and rehashing everything out Brings back like a flood of memories And I feel like I'm 15, 16 again And, you know, experiencing everything for the first time The suit claims that specifically Onision appealed to minor females Like plaintiff who were young, vulnerable Questioning their self-image or identity Or were seeking answers and guidance And the trial is set for November 1st of 2024 And now Onision is banned from almost every major social media platform Onision was moved from Patreon for doxing Greg posted screenshots onto Twitter of text messages Between himself and Billy Some of which included her phone number Which means that he shared her phone number to the general public A Patreon spokesperson confirmed to The Verge That it considered those actions to be doxing Which violates his platform's rules and justified Onision's ban Yes, we removed Onision from Patreon As he violated our bullying and harassment As it relates to doxing A Patreon spokesperson told The Verge Wow Wow Wow So you guys are so into yourselves Like you are so committed to censoring innocent people Once Onision knew that his days online were numbered At a final grasp at the platform that was slipping away from him He began making breakdown videos Greg made a skit Making fun of Eugenie Cooney Made a sins version of her And kept making videos on her after she asked him to stop Also Greg, stop being mean to me Greg has stated himself that these videos are not real That they shouldn't be taken seriously The funny thing about asking me if I'm okay Is that you actually take my videos seriously If you take my videos seriously Wow Wait, they're not real?  Is this what you want to shut up? You're all dead! You like kombucha? I love kombucha! Ever since my day-train got deleted I haven't been feeling very good Now, justice to me! Do you have no shame? Onision has one last goodbye video Titled, Goodbye Onision was framed and socially executed People are so quick to try and make living as a human being miserable To understand, like, people online are so quick To pick someone who they think is above them They want to pull down to their level or whatever And just try and do everything they can To destroy that person's life for the levels And that is the internet environment that we are currently in We're in a community that is terrifying So I had a great time But things have changed a lot And I don't want to talk about all my problems I don't want to talk about, like, the things people tweet Or the videos people make Or the things people say in the national television Like, it's so crazy I was just a guy I was just a random guy serving in the US military Who was making stupid funny videos And then it blew up into me getting like two billion views Before adpocalypse I got like two billion views on my videos Because I was working every day and neglecting my life now So I'm leaving social media is what I'm saying And I've said it before, but my reason has never been this good Ever In the description of the video, he says Onision was socially executed by disgusting and unforgivable Malice-driven, fraudulent smear campaign Always the victim Onision's life was destroyed by someone he rejected And removed from his life due to them being a danger to him and his family Again, he rejected this person Therefore, he's the victor and they're the one that's in the wrong The person Onision removed confessed to doing extremely illegal Dealing illegally violating him and another person and other behaviors No, I'm not going to do this victim blaming stuff Onision was a musician and a comedian who dedicated over a decade of his life to entertaining his fans Campaigning for equality among genders, animal rights, infant rights, women's rights and charities Designed to feed the poor and the hungry Onision now has changed his channel banner to be a graveyard and his profile to say Rest in peace And Onision is trying to blame all of this on one person That one person being Sarah seemingly not recognizing the larger pattern here Which I feel like we've probably reflected upon in today's video That Onision is to blame here Onision's a monster Onision dug his own grave through doing the same thing over and over again The same mistake Not being able to just be happy with what he has But having a continual need to involve young women in his life And inflict more and more damage onto them And not being able to let that pattern go And not only that but have to show it all publicly And continually profit off of traumatizing them Through Onision doing that He was the one who ended up F***ing himself As he predicted he would do all those years ago Remember you're just talking to a ghost After years online exploiting his victims for profit Filming it all Greg finally met his demise and declared bankruptcy That's right All the YouTube adsense that Onision had made Throughout the many years that he's been on the platform Seemingly went poof And now that Onision was no longer making videos He could no longer afford his lifestyle I declare bankruptcy Wow Grunko really loves to eff around with his money, doesn't he? I'm really not surprised about this after all It was posted publicly that Greg and his husband Filed for Chapter 13 bankruptcy Now I don't encourage anyone to go looking at All of these legal documents that have been posted online For the family and their children's personal safety But in the documents it shows that Greg owes One to 49 creditors money That their assets are worth 500,000 to one million And that their estimated liabilities are between 100,000 to 500,000 Greg also claims to be making around $2,000 a month From the company Nizaya Motu Incorporated But what is the company Nizaya Motu? Well Nizaya Motu seems like a kind of shady company As you can't find much info on what the company does Other than it being linked back to Onision But it's hard to say A lot of people speculate on Nizaya Motu being a shell company Basically a company that exists on paper But does not provide any services and is used to store funds in There's further proof on Onision's link to the company In that he used the company name a long time ago A user with the name Nizaya Motu Posted a review saying awesome shirt I love all American fighter shirts This one in particular is exceptionally awesome Due to the color combination The fabric quality is consistent with other American fighter shirts And there's photos with these reviews that seem to At least from the images look like Greg's photos Now this bankruptcy doesn't seem to be because of anything other than the fact That once the YouTube paychecks and Patreon paychecks stop coming in Greg was continuing to spend more than his household income And seems to need to pay back creditors and debtors According to this Reddit comment They're filing under Chapter 13 bankruptcy Chapter 13 basically means that you pay your debt Or a portion of it back with one month payment for three to five years According to their documents, they're only making around 5k With a monthly expense of $5,550 So with the Chapter 13 plan document It says that they'll be paying $500 a month for 36 months Three years Long story short, a Chapter 13 bankruptcy, as stated Typically means someone's repaying their debts over three to five years And the biggest advantage is that you don't have to foreclose your home I'm not fully familiar with bankruptcy proceedings The process and what one has to do But according to YouTubers involved Onision was in bankruptcy court And named a whole bunch of YouTubers who were involved in past dramas There has been speculation that because a letter was posted Which named a ton of YouTubers And that letter has now been leaked to the public That this means they're going to try and sue the people named in the letter Or take them to court But based off the contents of the letter that's been leaked I believe personally this was just a petty letter That was leaked to who Onision considers his biggest enemies in the public domain The header of the letter simply says Plan and notice of bankruptcy case filing And in the letter it simply has a declaration That the bankruptcy filings have been forwarded to all the people on the list Again, I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if this means That Gregory has a plan to sue or ask for money from these people in the future But now the news is out there Greg has lost it all And with the lawsuit out there Who knows how much more he'll lose Millions of followers to declaring bankruptcy It's a fitting downfall for the story of Onision And that's the story of Onision Thank you so much for making it to the end I really appreciate it Comment I was gonna say RIP Onision But honestly he doesn't deserve to rest in peace So if you made it to the end Comment good riddance Onision I think that's a better way to say it And I hope you guys are all doing well Sending you all peace And if this video is particularly triggering for any of you guys out there My heart goes out to you Recovery is not an easy path And I'm right there with you Sending love to you all in the comments And hopefully we can all heal and grow together Also, thank you so much to my team Who works super super hard to get these videos out I have so much appreciation and love for you guys And I'll see you guys in the next video Hope you're doing well until then Bye Thank you to Rocket Money for sponsoring this video Go to rocketmoney.com slash cruel world happy mind Or click the link in the description to get started for free