There's a lot of folks out there, and this is just my guesstimation, okay? There's a lot of folks out there that believe that if they don't pray in accordance with their faith that somehow They're not doing the memorial service of justice Let's remember What the focus and mission is for the DAV on page five of this document? It says we're non-secretarian. Does everybody know what that means? Means we're non-religious which means we're all encompassing of all faiths, okay? That's what we have to hear, too He also says we're non-politic or we're non Political, okay, I'll get there guys. I'm so tired. You have to just just be bear with me, okay? I may get tongue tied matter of fact. I'm surprised they even left the nominating committee all in one piece But anyway, it's all good Hey, you'd be surprised what a couple of jokes would get you to get you out of the nominating committee early So on page five it says we're non-secretarian. So when we conduct our Memorial services at the chapter and department level. Let's keep the mission and The focus on what our organization is now I Need to remind you Let me remind you guys yours the one you are the ones that have approved this document you approved it So then why do you want to go and then go against it page five? I just told you where to find it and The members approve this now if you want me to assist you in conducting a memorial service Let me know I will send you all The help and assistance I can give without my being there to make sure you have a proper memorial service but guys We have Jews Muslims Hindus Christian and a few other face that are part of the makeup of the DAV If we're non-secretarian then that means our memorial services should be all-encompassing for all those things correct So if we're doing something unique that's specific to a faith based event That we're not encompassing everybody What is the requirement to be a member of the DAV who knows this? What's the requirement? Be a disabled veteran That served during a time of war Honorably that's all the requirement is so when you conduct your memorial services and then I go out to these departments and Commanders if I got commanders out here or department chaplains or chapter chaplains Keep in mind what the focus is of our mission and adhered to the memorial service from that perspective I'll be more than happy as I said earlier I will send you material to help you do your memorial service in a proper manner now Let's address some prayer questions that I got prior to coming up here. I'm going to reveal to you what my belief is So that you can understand from the perspective As your national chaplain how we conduct business. I may believe her in Christ everyone understand that but I am not a Christian How can you be a believer in Christ not be a Christian? Well, here's what I believe I Believe that the term Christian is used by the outside world as it was in Antioch in the book of Acts So people looking in can call me a Christian, but I won't call me a Christian because I'll tell you why I'm imperfect I'm a human. I make mistakes. I tried to walk the walk of my faith But it doesn't always happen And for some of you have been around me long enough after about three days of me. You can't stand me Well, you guys are lucky you get to go home, but I had to go home with myself. I don't get a break Just saying it's just what it is. So here's the deal guys from my faith perspective as your national chaplain all All the members encompassing all the faiths have elected me and therefore I will represent all faiths involved in this organization It's a formality and that's we got to get out of the mindset that somehow if I conduct a church service Then we call it a memorial service and somehow I'm not doing my God justice Get rid of that. That's just a mentality What I do up here is a formality. Now when I'm away from this organization I am who I am, but I live who I am while I'm in this organization I don't know what my faith is everyone understand am I getting too complicated. I don't want to I Just want you to understand the perspective in which we need to be conducting our moral services If it was a Jewish rabbi if it was a Muslim cleric and they were the national chaplain They would have to adhere to the same rules that I'm adhering to and have to adhere to based on the constitution of bylaws There is no Give or take there So everybody understand then when you go back to your departments and chapters You need to be thinking about how to do one properly and if you all attended the memorial service this morning You get a good idea How it should be conducted and it can vary it doesn't have to be exactly like I Conducted it. Okay, it can vary You know your community. You know what's appropriate as long as you're here and stay within the mission of the DAV all right now Anybody have any questions on that? Because if you do I'm just simply going to point you to the constitution bylaws and say read the book Okay All right guys. Well good afternoon Awesome. All right Well, look guys, I think a chaplain's responsibility in the DAV can assist a commander in bridging gaps between generations Our problem is as we've got in my travels across the United States We have older veterans. We have younger veterans. We have veterans like me I'm in the middle. Okay I'm not old When I'm with you, I'm considered young But when I'm with my kids, I'm old as a Bethuselah. It's just what it is. Okay, so the reality of it is here guys is that We have a responsibility to assist our commanders and the line officers to help bridge the gap in generations First of all, you need to know what generation you came from You need to understand how that generation thinks and then you need to know how to communicate to that generation because here's the deal If you're a chapter and you have older members and You're not getting any new members is because there's a lack of communication And you don't know how to talk to the younger members chaplains You are a pivot point in the chapter to make that bridge that crossing. All right So what we're going to do is we're going to discuss Next slide, please the four types of generations. We're dealing with right now So you have veterans those that were born 1925 to 1944 you have boomers 1945-64 this oh by the way, this is not an exact science. All right I just did some research pulled out some figures laid it out there based on my best ability to do what I need to do Gen X generation 1965-81 and Millennials from 1977-94. I have two of them living in my well They did live in my house and a grandson who's picking up their bad habits All right, so let's talk about poor school or veterans Those are the individuals that were born prior to World War two or right at the end of World War two So here's the deal when they were born there were significant opportunities and jobs in education Now I'm taking the long way here to show you the difference between how each generation thinks If you understand how the generation thinks you're going to be able to better communicate with those individuals, okay And that's our job as chaplain post-war economic boomstruck America why because when World War two ramped up we had Manufacturing kicking into gear and then it just created all kinds of jobs for everybody that we got out You had the automobile business you had Enough money to go buy a house now And so the housing market came up all that was what was going on with this particular generation now Cold war tensions were beginning Okay, and there was some discomfort and uncertainty throughout our nation during that time because we had Russia Took over half of Europe at the time for those of you that remember that after we just set their fault hard Defeating one bad regime then another bad regime comes in and takes over All right value security comfort familiar known activities environments were all part of that generation Okay, let's talk about the boomers. I'm part of that group They also had good opportunity Economic opportunities, they were largely optimistic They saw the future and they say yeah, let's go for This peace time during that time except for 1950 when Korean War broke out But that generally they were optimistic But during this time we had President Kennedy and Martin Luther King assassinations that kind of changed the face of everything So the rights movement was during this time the Vietnam War took place and then the epidemic of AIDS broke out For this generation right here and most of us lost trust in the government And there's nothing with losing trust in your government I think it's a healthy thing to lose trust in your government because the government should always be accountable to the people but it's Taken too far if you think you need to destroy the government. That's my personal opinion That's why he's up there doing that. All right, let's talk about the generation Xers 1965 to 81. They were latchkey kids There's a lot of dysfunctionality here Chaplains you need to be aware that dysfunctionality breeds dysfunctionality Usually can tell when you're talking to someone what their background usually is and if you talk to them long enough or you with them long Enough you're going to find out what their background is without having to pry and poke those people love to talk and they'll tell you What's going on in life easy especially if you're chaplain You've got chaplain from your name. You're a trusted individual So when they give you this information You must in confidence protect that information Unless it's a murder then you have a right to report it. Okay Lowest voting participation rate of any generation they didn't want to be involved in government politics This is generation Xers high levels of skepticism. So we went from boomers who had a Had a great outlook on life to their children who ended up being exposed to lots of daycare and divorce and now they're skeptical about everything That's the guys what's in it for me, you know those folks you haven't met any though, right? You have many of those folks that says what's in it for me? Okay, but they are Really educated well Okay, next They may have a higher level of caution and pragmatism next Reputation for the worst music to ever gain popularity. That's this generation right here Have you ever thought about listening to me sit on a race like man? What is that?  This is the bigger group 1977-94 these are the folks that are now becoming members of our organization known as incredibly sophisticated technically wise I When I left the line company went to staff, I didn't know what a computer was Then I sit down at the desk and I'm issued a computer and I had no clue how to open it power up this young PFC You know the kind of horn room glasses he's got to look And for three days he sat down next to my desk I wouldn't let him go to the bathroom until I knew how to operate that thing from suit and nuts That's how I learned about the computer But these guys the Millennials They'll dance around you on technology smartphones iPads They'll make phone calls and oh my goodness my two children When I call them on the phone, I don't get a response it goes right to the message But if I text them within 30 seconds, I get a response Because they're they're like this. They're the guys that are sitting next to you. Let me explain to you how it goes in my house So we have an Easter dinner a Christmas dinner or something. They're all at my house. We're sitting in the same room Grandpa's ready to talk. I'm ready to you know face time Everybody is all buried into their little smart phone and they are talking to one another by sending Texas And they're sitting right next to the individual. That's this generation So now we have a new rule of my house all smartphones left on the kitchen table Can't take it any further in the house Immune to most traditional marketing sales pitches You remember those times when marketers would come up to your front porch and say a vacuum cleaner or something These guys aren't fazed by that.  That's basically this millennial group. Okay, you know my face You I don't have to buy that. I'll buy what I want. They are much more radically and ethically diverse They cross cultural lines. Maybe something the older generations who learn from them They have no problem crossing the line whatsoever. Yes, ma'am Racially and what did I say? Well the radical they are radical in that Thank you, dear. I appreciate that Also, they are racially Divert, and you know what? I'm the one put this together Chaps do make mistakes. No, it wasn't a mistake But they are radical in their thinking in terms of cross culture. Okay flexible and changing in fashion and style consciousness. These are the guys That will get three or four guys together and go get an apartment and live together and they have no problem doing it I couldn't do that Man, I gotta have my piece what when I'm in the bathroom. You better not come in on me these guys They're more communal and they have no problem sharing the load My son is big time into this All right Raise you dual income or single-parent families That's their background where they come from remember just prior to that yet Gen X What was their background? They were latchkey kids, right? Disfunctionality breaches functionality. So the result of these guys is That they come from single-parent families most of them. Okay now Before you jump on me after I just told you we need to hear to the Constitution by-laws And we're not gonna show our faith. I have to show you this particular scripture of my faith Because this scripture is going to bring home What and reinforce what I just talked about? This particular scripture in my face says that we become what we need to become To talk to other people That's basically what this scripture says. That's from my faith perspective We need to become what we need to become to communicate with other people now There's a lot more in that scripture, but because I'm your national chaplain I'll let you read it for yourself and you can figure out what the rest is. All right, wouldn't run along So with that said and that in mind We need to become chaplains what we need to become to communicate to the younger generation So they can become members of the DAV and take us into the future of the way All right, talk work dog. Did y'all get that passed out? Yes, sir. What you got? Say again, I like to walk Oh First friendship chapter 9 verse 19 23 now that's from my faith perspective I don't know what your faith perspective is and I'm not trying to you know impose my faith on you I'm just giving you an example of what my faith teaches me. I need to do Okay, that's what my faith teaches me to do, but I wanted to put it up there Because I want to make my point We cannot have tunnel vision when we're in our chapter meat. Let me give you a story Had a young veteran who was made the department adjunct Doing a great job very motivated Was learning made mistakes that's what we do As we learn when we begin and Then in whatever department you're in based on your department constitution bylaws The commander can pick Another adjunct they want right? so the department commander who's elected In my presence commits to talking to this young veteran saying you're not going to be my adjunct after this young Person has been an adjunct for two years Because you make too many mistakes, and you don't know everything yet So he puts into place an older gentleman older veteran Who's probably been adjunct for 15 or so years? And so my question was and again the commander can make their decision. What the commander can make it I I can't change commanders mind If the DC's there they can improve his decision if that's what your bylaws talk about But here's the hypocrisy of that decision Not even 30 minutes prior to that decision being made he was talking about how we need younger members in our And oh by the way the Millennials in case you didn't get it they oh we're gonna talk about that here They want to be in charge they want responsibility when you get a young veteran in your chapter you need to find a job You need to find them a job Make them productive members not tell you what they're on point you give them a mission They're gonna go out and carry out the commanders in 10 Now they need guidance Because we're not military So we don't them running over you know other cars and stuff to make that mission happen They're not uniform anymore But what we want to do is we want to balance it out with teaching and here's what the problem is Why couldn't the commander have just simply guided that young veteran You've already been doing it for two years probably was starting to get good at it. I would imagine right So we as chaplains have to look at the big picture and it's our job to inform the commander when we believe he's wrong Which is more important why you need to know the Constitution of bylaws because you just don't go to the commander say you can't do that You need to be backed up with what the members have voted on and approved Okay, know your department Constitution bylaws know your chapter Constitution by law Oh I'm sorry generation Alright, so you had this do you want to interact? No, no, no go to the next one. Okay. All right Everyone got the past out. We passed a truck word document that looks just like this This is a really good reference thing that you can have find out on the left side of the paper Find out what generation if we don't have any more I'll make copies, okay? Find out where you fit into it and then when you want to talk to another generation That's not you at the top Find out what it to me and it tells you exactly what they're all about and how to approach them I've tried to make this as simple as I can for you because look I've been doing this for a while And I don't have it perfected Okay, and once at a time once in a while. Well, I wasn't a towel. I don't know once in a while I mess it up. It is what it is. All right. No one's perfect I don't expect anybody else to be perfect, but here's what I do expect I expect us to come together as a team chaplain's and when you don't know you need to be reaching out And if I don't know I know a whole bunch of chaplains that do know There's there's chaplains that I do trust I don't did you know I didn't know everything you didn't know that You did not know well, let me tell you now so you're not disappointed later. I don't know everything. All right But what I do know I'm pretty good at And I'm still learning and I'm learning a lot from you So chaplains our job is to pull from one another encourage one another lift each other up draw information from one another That's our job. All right, this chart work document anybody have any questions on how to read it That's for you If you want me to send you an email copy after the seminar come up here put your name on a sheet of paper I will send there are no secrets here. That's not a registered trademark My job is to make sure you're informed that you can do the best job you can at your level. Okay guys. I Want to help you. I want to make you successful. That's my job Unless I'm not reelected again, then it'll be someone else's job But as long as I'm your national chaplain, I want you to be successful which makes the organization successful what Better way to assist someone have you when you when you do someone's benefit paperwork and they come back and they say Thank you so much Isn't that worth? All the money in the world that you've stepped out and done something is a chaplain's here been service officers Very good. Yeah, right Guys, maybe you need to consider being the surface officer Ministry in many ways. Okay Yes, so let's talk about communicate to these various veterans we talked about. All right, here's the deal guys We have to build trust the inclusive language this young veteran example that I just told you about That was relieved of duty so to speak after two years in position. How do you think that? better now views the department if she's if if if the if he or she is mature and most of them are They'll take it with a grain of salt okay But in most cases We have to build trust with these guys. We're talking specifically about the millennials All right, they're the biggest group.  You're gonna run with it Well Look guys If I tell you something I probably got good reason to tell you something But you need to follow up and do your own research And you never know I might be missing something And you may find something else. Hey, national chaplain. Did you know? No, I didn't think you're telling me and I can add it What's all about guys body language Make sure that whoever you're talking to the millennial once you understand who they are Talk their same language get down to their level and talk the way they talk because if you're not doing that they're not listening Because they're thinking that you don't care Follow me so far Use more formal language. Well, you'd be surprised how smart these guys are when I was in the military We had a lot of high tech Instrumentation and technology that was just phenomenal for its time Now they've got What do they call them unmanned Aircraft that fit in the palm of your hand. It folds up sticks into your belt. They can toss it over a berm The squad leader or his designated representative can look on this video screen before they even go across the berm and find out What's on the other side? That's how technically This generation is What used to take a lieutenant back in my time Specialists can do it now. That's how smart we need to give these guys credit But we also need to remember that if they come and they're new into our organization We're not going to throw them up into leadership, right We as chaplains need to recognize that saying Now from my faith perspective I can think of a number of scriptures that says we don't throw young people into ministry positions right off the bat I'm just saying So the same principle applies All right, use more formal language next Don't expect them to share their thoughts until trust is built. Go back up to point one if trust is not built They're not going to talk to you If you don't know how to operate a computer You've lost them already if you're not using a smartphone They're moving out Okay, if you can't text them It's gone We need to speak their language If I want to talk to my daughter and my son, I'm going to text them because that's the quickest response I get and that's how they respond to me I'm not going to alienate them because they want to text and dad doesn't it's not going to happen I want to talk to my kids. I want to talk to my grandson Don't waste their time They don't like their time wasted at all period They have a job to do they want to go and do the job. So what that means is Be brief with them. Do not give them long dissertations About life because I don't want to hear it. They got short-term memory. I call it the the hollywood Um, oh, what did I used to call it? Anyway, call it the hollywood something where we are bombarded with 30 second stuff And then it's gone That's how you have to talk to these guys in little bits and bytes If you go over a minute or two minutes talking to them, you lost them all right face to face or read communication is received best Because you want their attention Or if you're writing email or texting Read communication. That's how you go get it. All right next Communicating with boomers. Here we go. If you want to talk to me.  So if you want to talk to me, this is what you got to do You got to speak in an open and direct style plenty of body language Now I don't do that at all That is not me We lost I've lost y'all already. See you don't even want to communicate with me All right, so you see how I'm talking right? Answer questions frankly and thoroughly and expect to be pressed for details Look, I'm up front with people when I ask a question And I require details When my wife tells me when I'm watching the Super Bowl to take out the trash What goes in my mind is I'll take it out at halftime But what's in her mind is you need to take it out now because it stings Now I'll tell you some of the marital issues I've had to deal with because I thought wrong but But but needless to say there it is and you've all heard me talk about The four marriage counselors I've been to in my life She speaks southern.  Just tell me up front. Oh, yeah I don't have a problem paying you I came with lots of money The problem I have it with is that you weren't up front with me in the beginning. That's the problem I have So when you're talking to me just be be up and straight up and on All right, ask for a provide options to demonstrate flexibility thing don't When you when you tell them something don't make it in stone Give them the flexibility to think of an alternative way to make something happen, right? Give them that but if you tell them oh, this is the way it's going to be You just turn me off. I'm out the door. We still talk about going. Yeah. Okay. That's me. All right Give me some flexibility. Let me think about a little bit. Okay. Use face to face electronic communication I love talking to someone face to face I love it. It's who I am. It's what I am. All right Can't can't deny who I am What you see is what you get. So if you vote for me May god have mercy on yourself Because you're going to get me. That's all I'm saying. It's going to get me.  All right next please Let's talk about communicating with your generation X's and I remember what are generation X's They come from what latch key families, right? It's functional families All right, so they're going to have some trust issues, right? So learn their language and speak it whatever that language is Next please be brief and concise to hold their attention.  Okay So be brief be concise and make your point up front quickly. All right Oh use a direct start to prevent the facts We men love you But you talking riddles And it drives us crazy And if you were direct with us, we probably wouldn't spend so much time in the doghouse Because I am poor at solving riddles And when my life Well, so we're driving down the road And she wants coffee She doesn't tell me she wants coffee what she tells me is would you like some coffee? No, no, I don't need no coffee. Let's go And then she's mad at me Because I didn't want coffee. I'm like, what did I do in 15 minutes? Only to find out that that was a message that she wanted me to stop and get coffee. All right Challenge them and ask them for their input Always have It's not one-way conversation guys with generation extras Ask them a question give them a leading question that they can respond to Make them feel part of the conversation How does it make you feel when You get upset with somebody and you're just the only one talking or god. Let me reverse that You're being talked to and you don't have a moment in there to respond to them. How does that make you feel? That's exactly how they feel. All right next please Share information with them immediately and often There are no trade secrets in the in the organization of the d.a.v Zero I told you that I will help you. I will give you information to the best of my ability And if you got something new that you want me to try let me know you're not going to be ostracized Use informal communication style.   It's the only language they know don't say oh i'm a chapter You can't be discussing that with me in those kinds of words It's the only language they know They're not they're probably not of your faith They don't know anything else except communicating that way. They're probably just fresh out of the military Let them communicate And then in your maturity Get them to tone it down a little better say hey, how about a cup of coffee that you didn't want earlier You guys as chaplains You guys should be approachable all the time You need to be approachable if you build up walls Where no one can come to you then how are the members going to express themselves when they have a problem with the commander These these generations Of veterans that are coming now into our organization It is our job to understand them. We may not agree With their lifestyles we may not agree with their point of view But they serve their country honorably and they have a right to be here And you as a chaplain have a right to listen to them When they have a beef And you may not want to listen you may have the same veteran coming up to you 50 times You're going to listen to it 50 times You know how long it takes for me to get from the grand ballroom up to my room about an hour and a half And you know what I'm going to stop and talk to you if you want to talk to me Because you elected me as your national chaplain And it's my duty to hear what you have to say And what you have to say may be just important enough for me to take it to mark and bury Because I've got the inside track with them You guys have the inside track with your commanders All right Listen to show respect for their opinion. They may not be shown respect to you by the way they're standing In the way they're dressed. That's them. That's the language they speak but show them respect All right email is their primary tool in communicating All right next please Now let's communicate with millennials.  And if I stood up here And I'm talking to you in a monotone voice And I'm not fluctuating to my voice and I'm not really I'm just On and on and on and I'm not really making my point You're going to be tired of me real quick fast and hurry. That's all I'm saying Use action for to challenge them. Hey, can you help me? What do you think about this? Okay next Don't be condescending show respect. Okay, so they screwed up Maybe they didn't get the financial report in on time. Okay The world isn't going to stop The financial market is still strong And no one took any money out of my account. It's all good So let's sit down and discuss how we're going to do this, right? Okay And what we can do to fix it And when you see your commanders or officers behaving that way to these You as a chaplain need to step in and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me let me let me deal with this issue Because you're the one that's supposed to be down to earth Grounded Full of wisdom that's your job constantly seek their feedback And I'm not talking about constantly means you may have to ask for two or three times But don't ask for it once and then three months later decide to ask for it again follow up Maybe twice that week if you don't hear me first time And then maybe one week after that, but be consistently asking for the feedback You may have to draw it out of them. Everyone is different guys I can tell you right now in spite of what you know about me I'd rather be at home sitting in a chair reading a good book And rubbing the fur off the belly of my two miniature long hair doxins That is the world according to Dover But here I am standing before you Talking to you because of life circumstances that thrust me into the limelight and I wasn't looking for it And yet you guys put up with my bad jokes. I don't understand you.  What does humor do?  I got inroads now. We can talk Humor humor humor And I use it quite often in case you haven't noticed Sometimes to my detriment But I use humor to break down walls so that I can be approachable And there are some tough nuts to crack out there Chaplains But you have to find a way to figure that out, right? Humor is one of the best ways to do that Always encourage someone always How many uh got to hear me in the district meetings when I came by? Were you all present some of those district meetings? I said some really crazy stuff, didn't I? I actually thanked you For the job that I have Because you made my job easy I go around smiling kissing babies shaking hands throwing a Throwing an elbow once in a while And you elected me to this position But you do all the hard work every single one of you Should be able to replace me You should have that kind of attitude You don't have to smile all the time. You don't have to be joyous and all that.  All right, just gotta be Next please And then use all the stuff they're using How many here has twitter account? Okay For those of you didn't raise the hand you just lost the millennials Because you don't understand what a twitter account is maybe or and if you're not using it. How do you know how it functions? They're gone Millennials don't even want to talk to you now because you don't understand it Man, I wish the president never knew about the twitter account. Good grief Wow But hey, you know what it's america You can do what you want as long as you don't hurt someone else or violate someone else's rights That's how I believe that's what I believe Use what they're using to communicate next please All right, communication costs for generations. We're gonna talk about millennials specifically next What does the millennial generation want to be when they grow up? If you ever ask that question about Looking at it. Well, let's find out Go ahead and put them all up Want you to read that Here's what they think about corporations in general. This is your millennials They believe in that there's a scarcity of resources in the planet. So they believe in conservation preservation They believe in alternate fuels Change climate change 65 percent of millennials believe in climate change 64 percent believe in income equality They believe the rich is getting richer and the poor is getting poor That's what millennials believe They want to be innovative Go ahead and put them all up there 78 percent of millennials were Influenced by how a corporation was innovating. Are you hearing what I'm saying? 78 percent were influenced by how a corporation was Innovating let's take it into our round DAV Hey, did you know we're using social media? Be an innovative What draws millennials? Be an innovation Twitter's tweeting texting Facebook We're being innovative nationals got the picture they understand 78 percent of millennials speak their language They're influenced by what you tell them if they're using what they're using Management attitude the biggest barriers to innovation. They believe that 63 percent believe that management attitude is the biggest issue in Our management. Let me read this management attitude Is the biggest block to innovation? Operational procedures 61 percent believe that's the biggest block to innovation employment skills attitudes And uh lace of diversity 39 percent believe those are the wall that blocks innovation They want to be leaders the young people think about this for a moment We've all served in the in various armed forces. We were all leaders at one time So we get out of the army. We've been in charge of folks the whole time in uniform Now we step out of the army and we're in charge of nothing Zip zilch Accept ourselves We've lost a sense of identity And they want to be leaders they want to be in charge. We need to foster that in them by guiding them Chaplains you need to cross that barrier between the commander and these new veterans young veterans coming in and being able to Bridge that gap in the language deficiency that our older veterans have with the younger veterans and the younger veterans have with the older veterans 75 believe the organization can do more to develop future leaders Is your chapter or department developing these young veterans when they come in? Are we properly training them or we just thrown them into position? Let me tell you how I got involved I was an adjunct chapter level for seven years When my father Received 100 because of the dav. I said any organization that does that I want to be part of So I went to my local dav chapter And I'm sitting in with a whole bunch of older folks And there's three or four vacancies up there at the head table And when we get to the good of the order, I raise my hand and I say what can I do to help you? Well, that was the wrong question to ask So can you take notes? Yeah, I can take notes Adjunct Oh, yeah, what is that?  Yeah, I'll do something I got there and seven years later. They wouldn't let me go But here's the deal guys That's exactly the same attitude that these young veterans have they want to come in and do something get them something I have said this at the district meetings that it is not my goal to be in this position forever Did I not say earlier that all of you should be able to replace me, right? So why do we have the mentality out there chaplains not chaplains? But commanders who've been a commander for 10 years and the chapter is not growing Because we is it just out of lack of bodies that we can't elect someone new to replace them because there's no one else showing up Are we doing a poor job of membership drives? To bring new members in or are we bringing them in feeding them to the lines? And this young generation don't want to come out. Oh, that's a that's a club for old men Okay We have to start thinking how they think if we want them to be involved in organization next, please Millennials want to make a difference didn't you want to make a difference when you got out of service? I know I did Improving society. I told you they were communal. They love living together They'll get four or five guys and they'll all share the rent Go out and buy food. They want to improve society. They don't like glitter They don't like the plastic. They don't want to go in the ocean Giving the charities. They actually love giving the charities 63 percent. They actively 43 volunteer Because it's about improving society, right? member of community organization DAV is a perfect community organization to be part of And chaplains you should be that bridge that brings it together. All right next place If you fail to address A millennial's issues if you fail to communicate with them If you fail any aspect of what I just told you what a how millennial thinks They're going to go out and work for themselves 70% will go work for themselves You know, I wonder if the reason why we have so many of these veteran organizations popping up is because somewhere along the line One of these young veterans came into our organization or any organization bsl bfw american leagues whatever And everything I just covered happened to them. They said, you know what? I'm going to go out and start my own project wounded warrior paralyzed veterans of america Just went out there and did it because we were too hard headed to see that we had talent at our door Something that we need to consider All right. All right, so let's review I think you can read that for yourself, right? I hope so because I'm going to give me some water next please This is where millennials think innovations are going to come from 44% think it's going to come from business That's not a very high figure 23% think it's going to come from studying getting some sort of degree 22% think it's going to come from the government And 6% think it's going to come from non-government organizations That's where they think innovation is going to come from pretty low figures. So that means they don't think highly of those areas If 78% of the millennials are driven by innovation Then should your chapter your department be following in line with what nationals doing? Should you not be creating the things that that appeal to the millennial? Because we want to draw them in Oh in case you didn't know this You only have so many years on this life Now I don't know what those years are But what you leave behind as a legacy is what you invest in the young generation today Tomorrow's not guaranteed guys No one promises you tomorrow. We just assume we go to bed. We're gonna wake up But tomorrow's not guaranteed. So what have you done for some young veteran? What are you doing to train them?  Think about this. Think of yourself as an elder Once you get that young veteran in place that's replaced you in that job Your job is to guide and give them wisdom with all that experience you have if you just read my uh latest article understanding leadership Wisdom is by far far cheaper Experience is it is expensive if we do not guide These new veterans into the position that we need All right, so here's the criteria for successful cross-generational relationship number one You've got to be interested in generational differences If you're refusing to talk to other generations because well, this is the way we've done it for many years And that's the way it's going to be done.  How do you know that the best thing to do Is know yourself first? What are your limitations? What do you like? What are your dislikes? And sometimes it takes some effort to get over that to be able to communicate with someone else Let me tell you I told you I didn't know what a computer was but I had that pfc with little honor and blessings Sit down for three days. I think I sent him to lunch. I'm not sure And he told me everything I need to know about that computer because it was my job to know next No other generations in general.  I'm not asking you to do that What I'm asking you is take what you already know about people because you serve in the military Right chaplain or you were married to a military guy God bless my wife. I have taken her through hell and back Boy, she ever finds out that I got the better deal in this marriage. She'll leave me So what was said here stays here. No one talks to her All right. I already did. Darn it Cheesing crackers. All right avoid hoarding grudges from classes over there.   Okay next Have positive feelings towards different genders. You may not like I alluded to this earlier. You may not like What they wear You may not like how they think But they're a human being they serve our country honorably They have a right to be here. We do not have a right to chase them out Make them part of our family And the only way we can do that chaplains is making sure that All those officers that have ptsd and take a medication You're the balance in their life All right, not all my not all my vice of spiritual make sure we take our medications, right? Happy wife happy life that sort of thing. Okay Focus attention on our thoughts feelings of behavior knowing yourself and how you react to something You may have to change that in order so that you don't send the wrong signal when you're communicating Recognize how our perception affects other encounters. Look guys think about Yes, I have an article if I'm reelected. I have an article coming out or we'll submit called ptsd and offense I'll just let you know it'll be out there about three magazines out if I'm reelected I'm not taking anything for granted You have to be careful what your perception is when you're communicating with this interaction Okay Because they have to build trust and if they're perceiving no trust you've just closed the door and chaplains That's not your business. You're excessive Be aware of the impact of our behavior on other generations So other people looking at you. What was the old saying if america? looks at how the government treats the veterans And we and the government's treating them right that usually we get a whole bunch of folks signing up for the armed forces, right? But if they see that we're not being well taken care of which is the 80s mission ensure we are Then they're not going to join the service And continue on the honor traditions that we've all experienced in our life. So That's the down and dirty of it guys. Are there any questions as to what we just covered? All right, good Appreciate it I tried to be sorry You don't sit down. Okay. Yeah, we're not we're not falling over here. All right. We're challenge Uh, well, I'm the minister but I'm not a chaplain I'd like information on how I would like to be schooled on how to go about the process of becoming legitimate chaplain Okay, do y'all hear the question? He said that he's a minister but it's not a chaplain and he wants to know about how to go about Becoming a certified chaplain. I'm assuming that's what you're asking. Okay. Did I repeat that correctly? Okay That that like I said at the beginning when I was clarifying I said That's not an exact science about boomers and win the actual dates That's just a generality of what the uh subject matter experts think So you you may be a combination of a little bit of both, okay They even break the boomers up into two sections But anyway, let me answer your question. The question is is no, I don't train you I'm a non-secretarian national chaplain in this In this format, but you can go to your denomination Preference and look up and find out what requirements they have to become a chaplain Okay. Now. I don't know all the inner work. I know where I got my certification from. Okay Anybody can do that You can go out and there are plenty of schools Colleges university seminaries where you can go And take what you need to become a certified chaplain All right But but but but before we but but before we go down that road What is the requirement to be a chaplain in the disabled american veterans? You have to be Thank you lisa You have to be dishonorably Oh That's the sleep coming out of me. Uh, you have to be honorably discharged from your service and a member in good standing That's all you have to be a chaplain in the dav if you want to Go out beyond that scope and do what you need to do Then you'll need to go out and search for what's the best thing for you to do But the dav does not sanction any kind or does not recommend any kind of seminary or programs That's on you all you have to do Is have served your country honorably and care Don't take the position if you don't care If you're taking the position Because you think it's a springboard to another Position you are wrong You must care All right, read my article understanding leadership. I got all that in here. Okay guys Any other questions? Yes, sir Okay The question was how do we have all inclusive prayers that's not specific to our faith now I abbreviated that was that correct? Okay The ritual book that we publish that you get Has some prayers in there. Okay, you can use those prayers. They're canned prayers. I don't like using them Because the ritual book is just a guide So you can go out there and write your own prayers if you'll notice that all my prayers start with heavenly creator Okay, it starts with heavenly creator pretty much encompasses everything All right, I'm just being generalized. I'm not offended That I'm not praying according to my faith because this is a formality. That's all this is I'm praying in the context of the constitution of bylaws That's mandated by you the member who approved those constitution of bylaws That's how I'm praying. Okay, so don't come up here by my hand later and say chapter. I disagree with you. You can disagree It's okay. I don't mind I got scars all over my body. They heal pretty good. I'd notice though that as I get older They don't heal so much but anyway point being as I'm digressing to the question of his ass I've had And we'll cover this because we covered this at the beginning of the meeting before it all started The ritual book is Generalized prayers that you can use over and over again if you want I choose not to I like to do my own thing But I've heard people tell me chaplain. You've got to use those prayers out of that ritual book Well, if you ask Ed Hartman, it's a god So if I have to use the prayers out of the ritual book Then why aren't we setting up our chapter meetings in a square like the ritual book says to said my You can't have one without the other If that's how you're going to be if you're going to staunchly tell me I got to use the prayers out of the ritual book and everything in that ritual book is going to be by the ritual book Now didn't we just cover with The generations and sometimes you've got to let them free think for their own self and let them expand out Well, that's not giving them the opportunity to do that. We're not communicating when we write stuff in stone It's just a guidebook And I want you chaplains to understand that so when someone says where's the ritual book? You need to use the ritual book use the same thing. Since I just told you then I want the meeting set up in a square Okay You have to know your members. You have to know what the membership makeup is And then formulate your own prayers And you can do a good job of that everyone in here can do that Without having to go denominational Okay, or a specific religious faith as a matter of fact, I was thinking about including Jewish rabbi and a muslim cleric in my memorial services. Are we all in company? Now when I do that, I wonder how many jaws are going to drop. What's that chaplain doing? Well, I'm in all comesy But you know what be judged. I'll be judged sure enough. I'll be judged Chaplains, you will be judged too with the decision to make. Yes, sir Oh, I'm sorry before you ask that I answer your question. Okay. Yes, sir Oh, no, we talked about the Lord's prayer And here's the reason why it's not appropriate in this con in this format Our father, which is the first two words in is is something the muslims have a problem with Yes Yes, yes, indeed Jewish Now now now now here's the deal. I don't have time. What time is it? I have uh Oh, we good. I got 15 minutes I don't have time to go into the reasons for But would would be happy to talk to that four o'clock. I've got to be somewhere else. Okay But no, it's not appropriate. So we're talking about non-secretary prayers and the our father specifically christian. Is it not? All right, so Yeah Well, if you can't use jesus's name because muslims don't believe jesus was the son of bella And therefore they believe he's a prophet and that's all he was So now you've got you know now you start to talk about some deep Uh cultural religious, you know discussion here, and I don't want to go down that road But but sir did I answer your question? Thank you Yes, man. Yeah, I agree. I you don't have to agree. You are you don't have to agree Okay, it's okay. You don't have to agree But we have to live by the mandate of the constitution by law. Right. I'm with you. Yes If you'll come up here and give me your email address The the question was can I email this? To this fine young lady over here. I will email it to anybody to leave me your email address You'll get a copy Of the whole seminar. I I have no trade secrets I can paint the big bucks You know Please no more promotions. All right any more questions? Okay, this will come out. Here's what happens once the convention's over and The uh dominating or the convention committee and the members agreed to the changes to this book In about two months. I've printed a new book and it will be sent to your adjutants and chapter commanders To include the department commanders and department adjutants. They'll all get a copy. All right So what you're going to have to do is get with your chapters And ask for a copy of this Now anybody know what these colors are based on? What why they choose the colors for each constitution bottle every year? It's whoever wins the super bowl It's whoever wins the super bowl is the color that they choose for the constitution by law That's how we know guys now, you know, that's how they choose the color. All right guys any other questions?


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You can pay at the door We look forward to seeing you there Highland radio time checks with expressway travel route 32 from letter candy to doblin when you book online and travel for less Expressway bringing you the time us Okay, well the time now is 17 just turning 18 minutes past 11 now Fergal blaney's the political editor of the irish mirror. He joins us on the program now. Good morning to you. Thank you For joining us. I do appreciate it Right now, um You've published today part one of a special invest investigation into a supposed the ease of access for teenagers and And vapes for what stood stood out for you Exactly. I suppose um, but what prompted our investigation was it's obviously been in the news a lot lately about vaping and everybody sees the little disposable products on every Every street corner on the ground. So so we were curious on that and we asked the hsc If there were any incidents where people were getting seriously hurt from vapes and we were shocked to discover that Last year there were seven people hospitalized children seven children were hospitalized Vape related incidents. So it was zero in the two years before that it was seven last year And we don't know what it is yet this year. So that prompted our interest But obviously we seem to be having a little bit of an epidemic So we've gone to a couple of areas on this and we'll be exploring it more over the coming days So we have our response from the hsc seven, which is very shocking And then we got on to a teacher down in Tipper area. Um, that's principal Peter creedon And he told us some very very very disturbing news of what it's like at the cold face He had a student that was able to toy with the wattage on one of the vaping machines to basically turn up the heat And he suffered a very very serious reaction. He collapsed in the schoolyard. The ambulance was called And he was told by first responders the teacher that was touching go for a while So that was very very serious So we've moved it on to political level as well then we will be over the coming days And we talked to thonister me hall martin because everyone will remember he's He's the famous all over the world for bringing in the actual smoking ban 20 years ago now And he's very very concerned about this and he told us yesterday that this he considers vaping because by the way Not everyone knows but the vapes The companies that own them are big tobacco as such. Yeah, he called it revenge. Yeah He called it revenge. Is there any is there any? Yeah, indeed an interesting an interesting quote there But listen we we had Early warnings of this an awful long time it goes as you would know in america We're kind of reaching a point that they did now six seven years ago And other countries have have taken strong action. I think we're a bit of a laggard in terms of banning these The state of these to under 18s has anyone ever in in political circles given an excuse as to why This has been allowed to become the epidemic that it has because still to this day you walk into a shop They've got a a a sexy tiktok shaped screen behind the counter You know promoting vaping all the different flavors the fancy little machines that are there impulse purchase Like as anyone in political circles actually responded as to why it's only now they seem to be waking up to this issue It's scary. It's scary. I suppose my simple answer is politics moves very slowly Politics is a bit of a tanker when it comes to issues like this They will always say that it takes time to introduce legislation that they have to The dreaded reports that they have to commission They have Finally got some sort of legislation on the table. It's the public health tobacco products and nicotine inhaling bill But so that's stuck in it's stuck in committee land at the moment It's actually going to be there tomorrow and when that does come in if it comes in Sometime next year. We would definitely not see before the end of this year It's going to ban sales of vapes for under 18s. But as you say that there's nothing for where we are now where you've got the brightly colored bubblegum flavors and you know vaping advocates will say, oh, it's it's a you know smoking cessation And advice that they're giving to people but you know, I don't see many adults that would like to have full We could find ourselves in the situation for a girl whereby legislation will be passed Once it's announced in the budget later today Legislation will be passed before the end of the year to enact a tax on vaping products Before we were we were hopeful of that. Yeah, but before the legislation comes into ban them for the sale of under 18s Like I think parents and guardians. It's tough out there. Isn't it Fergal? They need a hand on this one It is it is it is it's complicated. It's intricate and the vapes tax Confusingly, like you say is completely separate to the public health Nicotine inhaling products bill the indications are now that it will be mentioned in the speech today They do this sometimes in governments. They mention that the tax is coming But then they say oh, we need to do more work on us So my sources tell me that it's the going to be next year Perhaps in the budget next year as far away is that that the vaping tax will be brought in That'd be another tactic from the government as well for everybody Not just for children to try and make vaping very dear on a power with cigarettes Perhaps someday and that they hope that will drive people away from a bot I'm not so sure because once you make something A little more illicit and a little more legal especially amongst children and young adults It's going to make it more attractive for them. Do you know what to never consider? Yeah, go ahead. Please add away. Yep. Sorry one of the main one of the main points of our day One of the investigation today was we just sent a 14 year old out And with his parents permission, of course And we sent him out to vaping shops in Dublin and within an hour he had a Armful of vaping products. They never asked him for ID. He was only 14 There is no law against it to say but some shops mainly the multiple supermarkets, etc Did say what age and no, we don't want to sell it under 18s But as it stands and we proved it today youngsters We know they're vaping as young as 10. We're told by the school principals Youngsters can go into any of these vaping shops. They sell other devices as well You can see them in every high street in Ireland And there's no law against it at present and we don't really know what's in them Except that they can be very dangerous if they are abused as we saw with poor child who collapsed in an ambulance called a temporary Yeah, indeed And that was the shocking element of the reports that the the injuries and those are the ones that we hear of But what I was going to say also Fergo before you passed on that important information is that like everything When legislation is written and passed in in Dublin, it doesn't often take it into account border counties We've seen that. No, we've seen that with coal. We've seen it through covid And I think we're going to see it with vapes again in that, you know, it will perhaps Benefit the majority, but we're still probably going to be in a situation where You know, these products are easily accessible across the border and people will start to travel for them If they have an addiction more so now I'm talking about the adults than the than the teens Fergal, but you know, we need to start doing stuff on an all-island basis We do of course. Yeah, there needs to be a joined up thinking there, which is often lacking And in the post-Brexit days as well It's it's people are divided on all sorts of trade issues So you're hitting another point there that's down the tracks again Past legislation that we need to work with our colleagues in the north because thank god There's no way of such border as such anymore And it's very easy for people to guess products that they want in one jurisdiction or the other And easily transport them and do what they want with them. All right, Fergal the Investigation continues tomorrow. Is that correct? Is it? Yeah, tomorrow we have the chief tonnage there speaking to us me hall martin And then we will concentrate on schools and then the medics We have people like a consultant respiratory respiratory The big word respiratory consultant Ted Cox and John crown who's an oncologist who everybody will remember was a senator a few years All right, listen Fergal Thanks for that in the mirror today and we'll continue for the rest of the week. 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We'd love to have you tune in All right welfare increases tax cuts there among the budget measures Which the cabinet sir is signing off on this morning It'll have a range of cost-living payments included including three energy credits of 150 euro each Michael McGraw will outline the full budget in a dull speech at 1 p.m But an awful lot of it's already been outlined as is the norm now tell us see what's in this John low of the money doctor's joints is John great to have you back on. How are you keeping? Very well indeed. Can you look great? Thank you very much. That's very kind of you Right, so I mean can you frame this or could not you could this be framed as a giveaway budget? There's something for everyone in the audience But is there enough I suppose for it to have the the impact the government parties are hoping Well, there's obviously one eye of the next election as for sure But in fairness we are suffering quite a lot every aspect of our nation from You know the low-paid to the high-paid even the squeezed middle as they call them but You know, I've been certainly campaigning for a while On the fact that you know the by-to-less the investment properties and their land 100 interest on the mortgage But yet the poor unfortunate homeowners who have these huge mortgages along with the fact that for 14 months we they had 10 increases Well, there is finally you get in some respite So there's a mortgage break up to what 1250 for those homeowners Who had a home loan between 80,000 and half a million at the end of last year What they'll get is 20% relief on the increased amount of interest paid On their mortgage between 2022 and 2023. So that covers those basically those 10 increases And does that still only apply to those on tracker or variables? There's been no interest relief for those who fixed I wonder I think it's only going to apply to those on on trackers because Maybe the the variables may squeeze in there as well But certainly the the fixed rates there were a lot of people a lot of my clients who fixed last christmas You know they fixed Greg at like 2.05 percent for five years You know, they're they're laughing all the way to the bank And it's good to see tax credit for renters as well. That's going to go from 500 a year to 800 I think that's a fair enough comment And you know rents have also gone through the roof and they certainly need some some support And and there is the danger Now you see that we have this situation where the majority of people listening this doesn't feel like it's relevant to them But we have a a economy that is performing very very well and we have seen a reduction in Inflation but that doesn't mean the cost of things aren't going up And there is genuine concern that's come from many quarters Except for government that this budget and the way it's been framed could actually drive inflation Back up again, and I suppose negates really some of the function of interest Rate increases that remains to be seen But it is certainly a risk that this could add extra fire To an already hot economy john You're absolutely right. Greg because it's going to certainly With like they're they're they're dealing with fire here, you know, they've increased for instance the top rate of tax From you know to 40 000 at the moment you pay the 40% tax rate over a 40 000 that'll soon go up to 42 000 and all of these little You know moves by the government Are going to admin six percent of the moment is inflation And you're right it could creep up again as a result of all these little mini Breaks that they're given social welfare And I I've been harping on again about the pension the pension is going up by 12 years a week So that'll be about 277 euro and You know Like in 20 years time, Greg We will be able to afford the pensions for the burgeoning amount of increased Pensioners who are retiring like we will have three times the numbers we have today And yet instead of having five workers for every person who retired as we had last year, there'll be two So basically it's not going to the money is just not coming Coming in like we're already down what 23 percent in the corporation tax this year Like there won't be enough workers paying coffers into the the extractive funds to actually fund The 1.8 million people there will be over the age of 67 certainly By 2050 maybe that's why they're so keen to see the see the Population growth who is to say that that's not one one function of that But also too obviously it'll be sold Again as a budget and I'm not saying it's not the case as one that is to sort of help the squeezed middle You know the working poor But you know like some people might frame it that Someone working the working poor will only end up three or four euro a week better off than Someone who's on social welfare Because they're going to see an increase of 12 euro per week as well And I think it will probably be worth about 15 or 16 euro to your average Worker so you know some might say well, that's not really fair because you know We're not we're working out there and people don't work for lots of reasons But it they might not see enough of a gap in that to be satisfied that this is good for them You see one of the problems here about your squeeze middle is that all of the costs like food The childcare costs They're all net income Like you have to have a net income to pay for your child to go through a do a crash or go to kindergarten or go to even Montessori And also also the same for food or food has gone through the roof I mean, I believe in mark greg. I've come across couples who are on Between them over 200,000 and they can't cope They can't cope. They have a huge mortgage which went Think, you know, they've got the food. They've got all the crash child carries can be the equivalent of a mortgage and and john also to like I This a lot of this feels to me a little bit about moving the deck chairs around uh, because you know The the big news emerged really for me in the last couple of weeks is the cost of getting to net zero 700 billion and it really hasn't been talked about or figured out as to how the government gets to that point compensating farmers moving farmers away from farming Not having the tax take on petrol oil diesel You know, and that is coming down the line really really shortly you talked of the the pension time bomb The net zero time bomb is absolutely huge and to be honest with you if a budget's not really referencing that now in 2023 It would make me wonder how seriously really this whole net zero project is being taken. Let me say that figure again 700 billion Well, the green party of course would would argue with you, greg and say that they have been managed to persuade the government to Have three billion Into a little kind of fund to help them You know, you'll deal with the farmers Deal with the diesel and the and the petrol How they're going to distribute that or how they're going to say it out is is going to be interesting But you're absolutely right. It is 700 billion and just in case people don't know what that is. That's 700 000 million by the way Unbelievable stuff, isn't it john Um, so, I mean there's a few questions coming in about the nitty gritties of it like working family payments and what have you There's some stuff has been leaked But i'm not sure enough has been leaked to get as I say down into the nitty gritties of it We're going to have to really wait to see what is there and then people will add up what the benefit is to them In terms of reduced child care cost, you know, usc changes tax changes and what have you so Really, it's probably going to take until tomorrow before we can as I say get into the nitty gritty of it john Well, you know, again a lot of the stuff Which is out there, you know, you've got the university social charge Um, which is going to go from four and a half percent down to four percent I mean you look at at the governments for four or five years ago They said they want to get rid of it It was going to be incorporated into the prsi and they were going to be just one tax They still haven't done that Um, as I say also, you know, they got double child payment child benefit before christmas And a double welfare payment after christmas So you've got then the three 150 energy credits One before christmas two after christmas And they're all going to add to at least some Amelioration for those who are really struggling. There's a lot of families out there struggling But with that in mind john, are you surprised that they're still persisting with universal payments and not targeted payments? Are you surprised they're still Focusing on universal payments.  Sorry, uh, are you surprised that they they haven't used the resources that we'd have through through the Revenue and welfare to target some of these measures that you could actually give more to those that need it more Uh, I am surprised that I do know in fact, I have come across people Families who are wealthy And individuals who are wealthy and who won't take those kind of breaks and um, they will pay them back Unfortunately, there are fewer five between but I think it should be I mean they have the wherewithal to be able to differentiate between those who really do need the money and those who don't so why don't we use that resource? And I suppose It's never a bad time Is it maybe when taxes are being changed and payments are being changed to? Uh, I suppose look at your own finances, john We talk about this regularly, uh, and there are tools there for that Make sure you're not paying direct debits that are for nothing and Start budgeting a little bit and looking after the the money that you have. I think sometimes we're all a little bit guilty of You know not keeping an eye are I as closely on things as we should it's very easy It's very easy great to you know, first we'll do a budget planner kind of spreadsheets Um, I mean I offer one and then if he wants to write to me I'd be very happy to give them our budget planner spreadsheet Which taught itself book has all the categories and the thing about it is when you sat down With your wife the bottle of wine on the kitchen table and your laptop and you fill it all out And you see what your expenditure is you ask yourself two questions. Number one. Do I need it? Number two Is there a better or cheaper alternative? And really at the end of the day if you are spending more than you're earning You've got three choices and one is earn more two is cut costs And the third one is prioritize and prioritize, you know, the last five years 300 000 people stop paying their Health insurance, they simply couldn't afford it. Great. Yeah, of course And then also too if you're looking enough to have some disposable income that would probably sort of you know So what am I doing with the extra money because I'm not seeing it in my account and it all As I say it works for everyone dependent on their circumstance. John as always. Thank you very much indeed money doctors.ie If you want to make contact and find out more information. Have a lovely day John Lowe there 08 6 60 25 000 The 90 noon show is brought to you by letter. Kenny credit union digital loans now available Apply online or via our app today and get your loan transferred directly to your current account Hey there folks of letter. 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Councillor James Monaglee is tabling a motion today at a council meeting On this matter, good morning Jerry Thanks for taking the time again to talk to us, I appreciate it No problem, Greg And it was a miss on me yesterday But congratulations to you and the team on your recent award Well, I appreciate that Jerry, I really do So, I mean, if you're a motorist or you live in Letter Kenny Or you travel into it, you know there's increasing frustration out there Is it more traffic or worse management of it? I mean, obviously there are professionals that will hopefully offer the answers to that But what do you think is going on? Why is it so difficult to get around Letter Kenny? Well, look, the bottom line is that with the increased volume of traffic And the town is not set to manage that traffic flow As you know, we have the Port Bridge We have been for over 20 years campaigning to get another bridge Which is termed as the Bonnegie Link That's slowly but surely come the fruition But in the meantime, the traffic build-up has been there And it's now, I mean, saying to anybody once they look at it That we would need at least three bridges In Letter Kenny, one from the Nitae Banner Road Over to Lack Road and one then from the Rockhill Road area Over to the Grantees Road So until they go and come into place There's a number of initiatives have been introduced by Council The latest one will be the traffic lights at the Polestar roundabout But my motion today is about getting the NTA To take notice of what's happened here in Letter Kenny I mean, it's our responsibility to ensure around public transport And that, you know, that there isn't the congestion that there is We have a number of ideas that we've been discussing for a number of years now Park and ride facilities on the edge of the town A proper and efficient public transport system And look, the council is in a position to get all that's needed for that to happen So what I'm looking for is the NTA to come into Letter Kenny Look at it and give us whatever supports and resources that are needed To implement one, a public bus service that is efficient and effective And two, that we can start mapping out the park and ride facilities And that we, you know, we get the necessary finances to put them in place Nothing exists at the moment, does it? There's no town bus There's no public transport to navigate the various parts of the town From the ATU to the shopping centre, you know, down to the Lower Main Street Over to the retail park There's no public transport I'm sorry for straightening for us as councillors But I'm sure it's equally frustrating for the ordinary people out there We've been in discussions with bus providers for three or four years now We thought we had a good service that looked good on paper It was being presented as a way forward There would be three buses on the go all the time That they'd be there from early morning to late end of the evening That they would provide transport for people going to work And also for taking them home from work And that in between that during the day There'd be regular service in the different parts of the town But this seems to have fallen through And we need to get the NTA in We've had a presentation from a local link company recently They're doing fantastic work right across the county And I think they've got the where for all and the plan To put in place a proper bus service in Letter Kenny But that's work that we have to get at And I think without those extra resources, the NTA That there will be a long way down the road And also too, you know, there are ambitious plans In terms of investment in Letter Kenny The development of Letter Kenny The growing of the population in Letter Kenny But your infrastructure, not just the public transport But the roads infrastructure has to match that I mean, it has to be a multi-tiered approach, doesn't it? You can't have a multi-strand approach You sort of can't say, right, we're going to Quadruple the population or whatever it might be Or we're going to try and attract this, that And the other into town But have no way of getting people around the town There has to be fully joined up thinking Yeah, and it's taken far too long You know, in fairness to our roads team And roads design team They have the plans there For, you know, the LEC road For the one day haul road The Bonnegie link, the bridge across The other bridge across the swillie there At Nativa Lane Road But we haven't got the resources to implement that And we haven't certainly got the money yet We haven't given the go ahead The Bonnegie link were dependent on the 10T That's very advanced They're talking about possibly 20, 25, 26 It might be starting, but when will it be finished? 20, 28 I don't think that our county can wait that long So what we're saying is that, you know We're a regional center, as you say We have a vision for the future development Of that our county and the growth of it And the city And what we need is for the NTA They take stock of that, they come up here Look at what we need and they help and assist us In every way and any way that they can The goal says the four lanes was the perfect opportunity For a boss lane to be installed But they never took that opportunity There's no forward planning around the town So what do they expect? Another says that our county needs a ring road Nothing else is going to do it When are they going to do something about this Instead of constantly talking I think the sort of the relief roads Or the roads you mentioned effectively You could probably end up describing that as a ring road I don't think you and that caller Are a million miles away in what's needed No, and then that Then plans are there and as I say In fairness to our road design team They have been battering the door of the department They've been engaging in public consultation And like we're ready to roll on it We've been awarded money to proceed With those plans But we're still far away from getting the diggers And on the ground and look What we need to do is get national bodies To take notice, to come up here And be part of this I mean after all we've been Selected by the government as one of the six regional centres We're seen as the potential for growth Into that city The northwest city region work that we're involved in Also recognises that there So what we need now is for the government To invest in that belief and that vision It should be an easy argument to make Because there are similarly sized towns With green buses, electric buses Buzzing around all of the time So this would take cars off the road Theoretically Particularly in this day and age It should be an argument that Doesn't even need to be had But we'll follow with interest to see What comes from your motion Councillor Donal Coyle He's also going to ask the council to explain The reason for traffic chaos So there's going to be a lot of talk About letter Kenny and its roads infrastructure At today's meeting So for now, Councillor Jerry Monagol I might take care of yourself and we'll Have coverage of what comes Of those motions later on Today around the northwest Is live from Donegal Education And Training Board's newest further Education and Training Centre at the Business Park Road in Letter Kenny It's for their student welcome day To kick off the new term They'll find out more about the range Of fallen part-time courses The adult guidance and information service Student support and about the range Of activities in the centre So join us live on Tuesday today from 12 At Donegal ATB's newest Further Education and Training Centre As I mentioned that's on the Business Park Road in Letter Kenny So great bit of radio there You'll get plenty of information I'm sure if you're in that area Call in and say hello That's coming up for you in about Nine minutes A caller says an age restriction on Vapes could have been implemented Which begs the question then Why do other governments Saying that they need more legislation I have an Airbnb for the past Seven years tell that lady she'll Get approximately two guests like that Each year unfortunately that risk goes With the job there you go So there is an average of people That come in and sort of disrespect Your property but this caller says It's all down to the attitude of dog owners Went for a walk in Dunloe on Sunday And coming back to the car was met With dogs not a lead in sight Can you imagine if you had a fear of dogs Fair practice Sinead for coming on And speaking about this dog owner Needs to be more responsible house trained Always the owner of course And Sinead herself made that point You know the dog doesn't know what's going on Hi Greg I'm an adult I hate Halloween I'm scared of bangers and I don't want People coming to the door last year Had my door banged and people shouting We know you're in there Do you have a gate that you could put a sign on I don't know There's a time of year that brings An awful lot of fear and that's off the back Of a comment from a report From Garda Sergeant Union Walsh Which is really terrifying Can you imagine someone It was in letter Kenny wasn't it Put a firework, a lit firework In through the door of someone's house Can you imagine the injury that could have caused To an adult or a child sitting Or playing in the hall as it turned out The door went on fire They managed to control the fire Thankfully they were in the house and not asleep upstairs But that is Very serious crime Five years in prison potentially Ten thousand euro fine But we really need to talk to everyone Who needs to listen and say If you think that's fun You really need to copy yourself on Because it's not fun it's stupid Because some people maybe don't know that We got this Email in From someone who didn't want to come on Because They don't want to feel the ire of others I live in Beautiful in a shone Stunning picturesque amazing place The people are wonderful and there's a great community spirit And an extremely generous Altruistic nature There's a conversation needed to be had And I'm just not brave enough to have it In my community Are we going to put an end to pointless And needless burning of fossil fuels As a charity event This weekend there was another tractor run In our area I understand people are burning fossil fuels daily For both heat and transport But as a community collectively Burning fuel unnecessarily Now this is not something that's Been brought up to me before But this is someone that says Tractor runs are really bad for the environment And it goes against community I suppose Maybe they're implying there as well Is that something to be considered I don't know You're already seeing places with a reputation For fireworks displays going down the drone route I don't know what the alternative to A tractor run is but Maybe in the not too distant future More people will agree with that listener And we'll say really should we Be burning all this diesel Let me see Saw some disturbing posts And comments from Sinn Fein supporters And various websites Rehama massacres Seems the Balaklava Has slipped again Mary Lou McDonald was speaking On that issue Stating her party's policy on it People regardless Of their political background all have Very different views on it I don't Say I don't have a view I tend not to comment on something unless I have The understanding of it And I'm still working through that in regards to What is happening All I know is An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind Effectively And I'm still processing The justification of some of the stuff that's going on Because of the historic Stuff that's been injured And I get that But I'm still not in a space whereby I cannot think Of little children Being killed or women being raped And men having their heads cut off And being paraded on the back of lorries Off the back of all the stuff Bad stuff that's happened And that's in no commentary on it Really in any meaningful way It's just I find all of it so horrendous I really, really do Hi Greg Could you please ask if anyone else has experienced this The doctor referred a family member For a national diabetic Ice screening They will be five to six weeks before forms Ascent and then you have to wait for an appointment After that thanks I'm not sure We'll throw it out there and see if anyone listening Has a similar experience I'm not sure is the option there to do it privately I think some of the Some of the big optician chains Do similar screening to that I'm not sure if that will fit what you're talking of Hi Greg from Raymond Gaza is the world's largest concentration camp Of some 2.2 million Palestinians And it's made deliberately so by Israel Indeed some others describe it As The world's largest Open air prison Incredibly heavily populated And it's a tiny tiny little Landspace with 2.2 million people in it Right that's why we have to leave it on the show today Come back with us will you We're back with you tomorrow morning at nine But for me Greg Hughes and Caroline Orhoo Researched and produced have a great day And don't forget to stay tuned Out and about around the north west