Put it back up in there. Put it back up in there. Boy, he gave me like some healthy drink.   Oh, that's what it is. Yeah.  I mean, it got all the ingredients right there.  It's a cayenne on the uh. Well, it's one of those peppers. You see those deceits? You see the deceits? Niggas love cayenne. You know, I got that cayenne pepper. That cayenne pepper. All right, well, what's the other one? Start with a P. Uh, uh, man, I can't think of that. Paprika? Paprika. Yeah, I said paprika.  Yeah, you be drinking healthy? Oh, which means healthy. Like you be eating healthy and drinking up? Like juicing and shit? I see you at the gym. I'll be wanting to, bro, because how old do you get?  Yeah, right? Yeah. We had an age where we can get fat if we don't work out. Oh, my mama. I'm about 26. I'm 29. 29? How old is you? I'm 35, I just turned 35. Yeah, see, yeah, it's the age for show. Yeah. You can get fat. Yeah, I'm 38, so it definitely gotta. I really gotta do six. I'm 38. Come on, man. I just look like this, man. Ah!  So, nigga, in my three years, nigga, I'm 31. You know what I mean? I got that type of energy. You know what I mean? You ain't that older than the nigga. No, yo, I was 38. No? No, my three years. No, my three years. Yo, I was alive all them years.  You know what I mean?  Is it hard to eat healthy in Atlanta? No. Because there's lamb chops everywhere. They got all types of vegan spots out of Atlanta right now. Lamb chop flavor hookah. Yeah. It's showing up. Is that a real thing or are you wearing?  That do sound kind of good.   Boy, you got to be trying.  Hookah.  I mean, that's what these are, these is hookah. That's how I like hookah. I like hookah. I look at these as hookah. This ain't hookah, bruh. It's better than hookah. Oh, yeah, that is. This is hookah. You need fire and coal to make hookah. I understand that, but this is like the same thing. It's like, it's the nicotine, it's the flavor.  Yeah, yeah, I smoke this.    Nah, it don't, but you know, it's crazy though.  I get on some like, like it's the mint. That sound like some crackies. No, it's sound kinda crazy, like I said, but I mean it's true.  Wake up in the morning, you done it. This is the first thing you gon' do. This is the first thing you gon' do. You don't need to start smokin' that high roller. You don't toke my ear, man. Shout out our first sponsor, man, for the podcast.  We got people in the back rollin' up right now. Stop playin'. We got that brick and mortar with it, man. Yeah, we got a white man rollin' up a black-owned business. Yeah, come on. We wanna know if more have it with a thought. Hey, look, if Martin was here. See, our time changed. We legal in black-owned. Yeah, the tree, the tree. I don't know what I'm doin'. I don't know what I'm doin'. He roll like a niggado for the show. Yeah, yeah, man.  Definitely use some scissors, dawg, you know what I mean? Niggas, you know, do the...  But yeah, man, what's goin' on? Y'all ready to start this thing? Yeah, we already started, man. Oh, man, Pee, I'm talking about your world. I'm just in it. They call me Bennett. I'm talking about... And I'm in it.  Hey, it's the Callie Kickback. Yeah, stand me. It's your boy, Lewis Belt. Welcome to another episode. I got my boy, Jamal True Love, in this thing. What's goin' on there, everybody? How you feelin'? Aw, man, big chillin', man. Just another day in L.A., man, in front of Bay, dawg.  To the motherfuckin' A. Come on, man. Come on, stop playin'. We got money back, Mafia. Hold on, that one free game? Y'all just came over that together? That was your natural. Yeah, that was my natural, man. He Bay area, cap, though. I can't follow that, man. Yeah, this is Money Bad Mafia, man. What's up, man? You got them Money Bad Mafia in front of A. Got them. Love me. God damn. You know, you're not a bad ATL.   Do we claim Atlanta or they be fuckin' with us? Do they claim us, do y'all? I feel like the East Coast and South all the way, I mean West Coast and South just all the way been like, you know what I'm sayin'? We ain't never had no smoke. Yeah. Well, not no smoke.  So that was one thing that was like, okay. Is that a fact, or are you just sayin'? It's a fact. I feel like that's a fact. It's a fact for show. Y'all put a comment right now. Is that a fact that, what you just say? Cash money? The first feature that the hot boys ever did was E40. Mm. Gotta get that out, you know. Yeah, let's see. Let's see, y'all put a comment.   Right now today it's kind of, it's more so Detroit or whatever, but I always wanted like in those times was Atlanta like claiming us as cousins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real? Okay. Y'all was fuckin' with the hyphy movie?   Who else are we gonna claim? I see what you're saying. Yeah. No, cause uh- The East Coast, they don't, hell no. Yeah. So I feel like there's a lot of people, do y'all know the difference between LA and the Bay? Like in Atlanta? I mean, I do now being that I've been coming out here so much like, but at first I just thought it was just one wave, but- Like all California? Yeah, it's different type of niggas. I had these, you know, niggas carry they stuff differently. What's different about them? I don't know the Bay, y'all just mold, you know what I'm saying? Y'all niggas, you know what I'm saying? Wavy like, y'all far through silk out that way. Yeah. Y'all was P, I like that man. Yo Tomo. Yeah, a lot, y'all niggas. Yeah, we the catcher. I say we the California country niggas, man in the Bay area, man. Y'all niggas, for sure, y'all had niggas, but for real, I did the whole Cali for me, for real. I fought with all y'all. Yeah, yeah, not for real, but oh yeah, cause y'all adopted the gang banging culture out there in Atlanta too. I can't adopt the motherfucking thing, man. In Atlanta, they be gang banging.  I'm like, how did you get jumped in the gang but you never been in Cali? They got Crips and Blood in England.  How? Man. No disrespect. I'll be coming over there. Imagine if it was- Yeah, we love everybody. Imagine if it was a real legal organization. Bro, gang banging can make a lot of money. Obviously it's illegal organizations of gang banging and everybody's not together, like the Bloods and Crips and LA.   Niggas, you forgot they're Peckhamland England. Yeah, they really can do it. Oh, you trying to G-check me, Bob. Yeah, real quick.  Imagine- Wait, get your pick-handy on the telly. I'm not just being like LA Crips going to motherfucking- And you need a check. And you gotta check it. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You think so? No, imagine that. I mean, I don't know. I think it's really like that though. Huh? I think it's really like that. What, what?  Did you go somewhere out the country?  You went somewhere. I was watching your social media. You said you didn't like the experience. It was somewhere out the country. I don't even want to speak on it because I haven't talked around and have to apologize.  You know, I went over there. Yeah. Out the country. Yeah, that way. And I'd never go back. For real?  Like out of the country in general? No, well, I was it, you know. Yeah, they'd cut your motherfucking neck off if you started speaking about it about a month. I ain't trying to. This interview might come up later on in life, you know what I'm saying? You a smart brother.   Next thing now, I got an envelope in the other side. Right.  All that, you know, I love Africa, all that. I ain't going that way. You ain't going to Africa? I ain't going over that way. I ain't going over that way. I ain't going over that way. Hold on. I ain't going over that, man. Why you ain't going to Africa?    You got, you see how people getting jammed up, that girl just was over there for months for talking loud. Yeah, but that was in Dubai.  It's over that way. That what I'm trying to tell you. No, Dubai, Africa. I'm saying I was over that way by Dubai. That what I'm trying to tell you.  You feel me? But either way, it goes like it just. We love everybody on this podcast.  Tell you that. You can love whoever you want to love. Once you get over that brother, it's a different ball game.  I had way more fun in places like Belize and they go Ruba, Mexico, like them type places.   Mexico is more dangerous than anywhere in the world. I go to Mexico, brother. Mexico is definitely a spot where I'm always like awesome. Boy, I was at the club in Mexico. They smell some weed. Boy, they came in there with chops, clipped the whole club out cause somebody was smoking it in the club. I left, I went back to the room. I was scared as a motherfucker. See, I stay in the Airbnb. I stay in the hood with my niggas. You know what I'm saying? They just so welcoming. I like places where they welcoming, bro. See?  Look, bro, I stayed at the Airbnb. Now I'm out on the porch with niggas smoked blood. Y'all, I'm gonna get the bottle and come right back. Like, you know what I'm saying?  We kicking it. Y'all are tight swear, bro. Y'all are good experiences, man. Y'all are good experiences. Yeah, yeah. I'll say stay that way. Tallune opposite of what you were saying, right?  I go to the club and right when you go to the club, you got the police.   Niggas, they in the bathroom, five, deep just waiting like marijuana, weed, cocaine, crack, meth. They got crack? Right, everything. You got crack. Oh, yeah. But they got everything. Hell, yeah. They got everything, bro. It's the cartel. Yeah. Yeah, the cartel. I feel you, Matt.  They in agreement in Tallune for sure. We just started speaking on this. Yeah.  I stay in Atlanta. I'm busy. Y'all stay out here. I already out there. Y'all did a couple hundred miles away. My leg closer to Mexico than that. They got a little draw to come to me. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, it's closer from Atlanta to Mexico than it is, nigga, from the bay. For real? Yeah. Nah, for sure. You got to go down. We got to go all the way. I don't even see no Mexicans going up. Y'all go straight across to Mexico. Nah, it seemed like that.  So we got to, like, we got to, well, if you go down. Nah, to get to tomorrow. See now, you had me with the future with E-49. Nah, I'm not for you. Now you reach it. Nah, for real, from Atlanta to Cancun, right? It's like a tour of life. I feel what you say. It's tour of life. For us, it's a three and a half hour, four hour flight. I feel it, man. And we go directly from here. Cancun was that far from Cancun. Yeah, Cancun. Yeah, exactly. Cancun, then it gets along. Yeah, Mexico, we go to the border. Yeah, we go to the border.  But this is the fact that you don't, you ain't catch it. Yeah. Y'all are already in Mexico. Yeah, I get what you're saying, man. I see what you're saying about that.  What? Mexico. California is California is. I know. Before colonization. Yeah.  Yeah, I get that. Y'all in Mexico. Nah, not the bay. I got to drive through Mexico to get to Mexico. Oh no, San Jose? Yeah. That sound like a Mexican city.  Colorado? Colorado. It's Colorado.  I don't know about Colorado. I know dude, but it's what?  Colorado is way up high. It's higher than where we at. Like, you know what I mean? Hold on, that's what's on my mouth. I think about the bullet in the mouth. Might be wrong. Lolo Siento.  I already man. I don't understand like. Yeah, not for sure. Las Vegas.  Las Vegas. Yeah. Los Vegas. Los Angeles. Uh huh. Oakland don't sound like. Arizona. San Diego. San Diego. Tances. San Jose. Texas. San Francisco. San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah.  Yeah, all that was Mexico. San Francisco. San Jose. Oakland.  Oakland on mama.  That's hella funny.  I be going back and forth to Atlanta a lot lately, man. The cultures is very different from California. Yeah, for sure. Did you know that? Would you like Delaware women more? West Side. Atlanta. Or California. How you gonna put me in touch? I gotta act. Why? I don't know, man. I like them both equally, but you know, Cali women more laid back for real.  You know what I'm saying?   Yeah, but they get around like I'm gonna go out. Like, bro, my first time coming in, my first time on a plane period, bro, was a young chick from LA, bro. Flew me out. And then you're from Atlanta.  So you got Flew me out? Yeah, I flew out. Okay. Bumped into the pimp.   Yeah, for the whole, she used to be a prostitute, you know? Yeah, prostitute. Yeah, she just kept getting up every morning. We stayed at the, come on, man. We stayed at the Cadillac Hotel as I'm on Venice Beach. You know, some vintage hotel. And she just kept getting up every morning. She's the best being, so she invested in you. You know what I'm saying? I bumped into her pimp. He the one that told me that she, you know, that my hoe, man. You know what I'm saying? So she had to break it down like, hey, look, big dog, I ain't, I'm out here. I, you know, F and F. Fly the fucking, that's him.  This flew you out.  And he like, hold on, man.  See, he couldn't figure out why he couldn't get in touch with her for a couple of days. So, nigga, we walking on Venice. She couldn't get it real quick. And she said, oh! We walking on Venice. I just see a nigga jig keep. He keep, you know what I'm saying? He keep got there and giving me the unit.  You know what I'm saying? She's like, man, don't, don't, don't say anything.  Like, boo. So I walked up to the shoot up in the store. I'm like, man, go in the store and get moved. I walk over to him.  You ain't different to me. My boy, you finna know the truth, right? This bitch, I don't know you. I didn't know you existed. F and F, man. Fly the fucking. That's all I'm doing. I like that. I like that.  I'm like, yeah, man. She is like, yeah, I'm with a trick right now. That's what she was feeding him on some shit, right? To keep him off. And then, but she communicating, telling this nigga where they at. But then he over there. Cause that's the only way he know. So when he come in once a day, he would see you like, hold on.   Yeah, but Johnny is way cheaper in California. They be able to bring him money back, man. It's my purse full of money every morning. The whole Friday that I was out there, she would come out with a purse full of money, bro. You didn't ask for no money? Hell yeah. I didn't have to ask. She would just, you know, she would just break it. They took it in the shop. That's what I'm talking about. They took it in the shop. Let's give a round of applause for the Cali women. You understand me? Breaking something. What you got out here, man? I'm telling you, you part of the culture now, man. Yeah, man. Let them hold her all your way. Crazy, man. Oh, yeah. So that's the next thing I was going to say. Like a pimp culture in Atlanta? No.  Not today. No, you have to spend money in Atlanta. You got to, bro. You got to.  I don't mind spending money. I can imagine if you was my age. Like, you know, like our age.  What's it like?  Nah. Nah.  I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I just gland it. Man, no. I don't ask me for no money.  You ain't even met at first. Pussy is not in my budget. I came out there a little short. Hold on. I don't have pussy in my budget. I have been telling me, I was going to take her to like five-star restaurant. I had set the reservation order. I've been trying to hit her for a minute, bro. Yeah, bro. The girl hit me up the day before we were supposed to go out on our date and was like, yeah. You don't want to pay for my tab at this restaurant I'm at right now. And don't be saying no, because you know we got a date tomorrow. So, bitch, you going to cancel out a five-star meal for a $50 tab? Damn. So she did. I ain't even hit her back. She hit me back.  I'm like, damn. Thank you, though. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. You dodged the bullet with that one, brother. Thank you. Yeah.   Let's crawl it, man. Put your price up in your bio. I ain't got to take you nowhere. You know what I'm saying?   Hey, I'm back. You know what I'm talking about? August 25th. That's a Friday. Get your tickets right now. Louis Brothers Friends. You feel me? So I'm going to have a few special guests pull up. The last show I had sold out. So y'all pull up.  Donny, you going to be at the show, right? This ain't security. He's really reforming.  You hear me? You know what it is. Hey, from the B to the B. From the B to the B. You know what it is.  They're Pasadenas. Pasadenas, they be trippin' all the time. All right, Pasadena. Pasadena. Pasadena, Rollstown. Do y'all call it a Rollstown? Just bring a Rollstown.  We in Pasadena on the 25th. We'll see y'all in a minute. Atlanta is really backwards, bro. Yeah.  Then the niggas got all the holes thinking everybody lame. Everybody not lame. Whole like, you not finna run the same game. You ran on that nigga on me. And then when I pick up on it, I'm lame for realizing that you think I'm lame. That's what I learned. I'm explaining myself at the club. I don't pay. I'm talking about, yeah, I'm screaming. Nah, it ain't one of them. You hear me? But we can kick it.  You know what I mean? I'm not going to the strip club. You look broke if you talk in Atlanta. If you start talking to somebody. Right. And you just not throwing money.  Then you got to talk. Yeah. If you're just talking off the rip, this nigga broke. Oh, yeah. This nigga broke his head. That's right. That's crazy.  This nigga words coming out. This nigga mouth. What he talking for? Shit though. He's supposed to be eyeing me. Mouth movement and a noise. He making noises. This nigga talking. He broke. This nigga broke his head. That is hella funny.  Hey, man. Y'all see what's going on in Alabama right now? Y'all see the fight? WWE. It's a charity. Do y'all know what happened? Like, why did the fight start? Yeah, well, the big boat was trying to park. They had the white boys and them had the small boat in the spot where the big boat was supposed to park at.  And they didn't want to move the boat. They here being told them they need to move the boat. Now, all these black folks is on this boat over here. They waiting to dock. Nigga, they got that Uber call.  They like hold on. Nigga's ain't calling the Uber out there. I ain't calling the Uber out there. Still, we got some other beat around here. Fuck, we ready to go. Yeah. Yeah, they got somewhere to go.  That's a nigga at that. Definitely. That's why I like me. I'm over here swinging at the air. Like I wish I was there. Like for real. I'm tired of everybody saying they wish they was there. There's a lot of niggas that wouldn't have did shit seeing that fight. For sure. There was a lot of motherfuckers who didn't at the end of the day. But me, I definitely would have been one of those. I would. I would have started fighting when everybody else started fighting. Yeah. Nah. See, I wouldn't like kicked it.  I ain't swimming over here. I ain't swimming to fight. I got tired.  I'm telling you.  Let me not say that. Like passion emotion. But yeah, I'm not swimming. I'm not swimming over there. Yeah. I probably wouldn't. Now what if you were jumping in the water and got grabbed by a motherfucking alley game or something. Yeah. That wasn't that water. And the fight still going on. No, nobody know your idea. See, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You got hit by a shark. They're trying to help a random nigga.  I probably wouldn't make that impossible.  You wouldn't jump in the water. I probably wouldn't. You don't know who over there. I mean, I do one of them skips over there. When you get ready to fight. I ain't giving it a what. If this nigga jump in, I'm not jumping in. It would have been something that was in my mind. It was a lot of niggas mind. They didn't make that decision.      With the yellow chair. I don't know what that chair made out of. At this point, if I see a chair next to a nigga, I'm treating it like it's a gun. Yeah. Like what you got that chair for, bro? Oh, mamas. What you doing with that chair? What you doing, bro? Watch out with that chair. Oh, mamas. I just came to talk. Yo, mamas. Niggas gonna be leader club.  I ain't got time. Hey, look, hey, look, look. This is what's about to happen. Chairs up guns down. That's what's about to happen. Chairs up guns down. Put your gun down, nigga. Chairs better than guns for sure. Yeah, obviously. Somebody saying that right now. You ever been hit with one? That's a good point. You ever been hit with a chair? Nah, I really, nah, I really, nah, I really get hit with a chair to get shot. Yeah, I really get hit with a chair to get shot. I feel like somebody could kill you with both either or. Nah, man, we ain't gonna go that far. Let me hear you. I get it. Chairs more personal. I ain't talking about one of them picnic, one of them little plastic motherfuckers. I'm talking about one of them steel ones. The metal ones. The metal ones.  That's the way to get you shot.  That what I'm saying? No. With a gun? With a shot. You can fake a shot quicker than a chair. That's the way to get you hit the ground. What you rather, yeah. Niggas gonna walk up and check you with the chair. Niggas won't know. Niggas gonna keep going. You see what I'm saying? See, on Friday, Niggas gonna say, I knew I shot one of them. I knew I shot one of them.  Niggas got a contact, yo. It got a hit. Nah, for real. Hey, look, it's a lot more Niggas did with a drive-by Niggas than a pull-up Niggas with a chair. He don't even do drive-bys no more, huh? That was crazy. That was, that was spin the block man. That's what it is. Niggas just ain't staying drive-by. Yeah, because he's boozy.  Everybody promote walk-ups. Yeah, of course. You got a walking nigga down now. Yeah, yeah. Drive-by. That's 90's. Drive-by.  Did a drive-by. You hella OG. Ain't no nigga under 30 doing a drive-by.    Drive-by. You doing a drive-by. It's like everybody within your crew. That wasn't no Bay Area culture thing though.  Niggas was not doing drive-bys in the Bay. Niggas was not doing drive-bys for show. Yeah, I put a comment. Was nigga doing drive-bys in the Bay? It in the Bay.  Drive-by, yeah. Was niggas doing drive-bys in Atlanta?  Oh, yeah. I feel like that's going all the way to be a car. Yeah, I feel like shooting your house up is normal. That's a drive-by. Yeah, that's a drive-by. You driving by. When I think of a drive-by, I think of niggas at a park and a nigga busing out.  That is a drive-by. Yeah, that's a drive-by. But see, drive-by, yeah. Drive-by is a drive-by regardless.  You in the car. You in the car. You driving by.  Just to see. That mean you shooting the first time knowing you ain't going to hit nobody. That ain't necessarily that. A lot of niggas say that, bro, but they know that motherfuckers ain't doing that.  How could you see a spin because if a nigga start busing, I'm gone. I don't even know if they spent back because I'm not at that location no more.  Like, man, I don't think I got them. That's a one up two though they feel like to spend back. Like, yeah, we spent back. You spent back on the same. On the same. Within the same minutes.  Hell no. They do that in California? They do. Well, like I said, I've seen and I've been in some shit, right? Well, I've seen allegedly, right? Allegedly, right? Whatever may be. But it's not like it's a for show thing that niggas is doing. Niggas spend back the next day. Yeah, exactly. Next day, man.  But it's hot the next day, man.  It is hot the next day. Come on. Because you just shot the block up there. Everybody aware. That's how California is, bro.   You only said Milwaukee because he wearing the jersey. That was hella random. I'm telling you. Nah, I wasn't. You don't skip past Chicago and say Milwaukee and we talking about shootings.   So what is like I hear today though? Like is it still LA? Like is it still there? Like they heavy on the heavy, heavy, like how it used to be. What, like some game bangers? Yeah. Like how they used to be like, this a way nigga then look from the south for real.  Like, is it like that still today? Shit. I don't know. We ain't from LA. I wouldn't be able to speak on LA. Yeah. My mom is nigga say the wrong thing. Yeah. I don't like how you said on the camera. We ain't out here. We ain't out here like that. Yeah. So from my understanding, nigga's out here. Yeah. For real. That's all I know. We respect y'all LA. Yeah. They ever show y'all that little documentary in, it was a high school, that gang bangin' in Little Rock. Ain't never showed y'all that? Nah. Man, it was showing up.  It probably was middle school.  You can't even wear a certain color.   See, we went by the street when I'm from home. So you know, that's all I'm like, bro, that's crazy. That's how it is in the bay.   I'm leaving my hood to go to someone else. The LA was always, you know, it was industry. It was fun. Son, the nigga, the beach, you know what I mean?  Yeah, we do LA, how y'all view the LA? Yeah.  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I used to be like, so I'm trying to get to LA. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, boys in the hood looked just how it looked for y'all, for us.   Blood in, blood out. Yeah, nah, it wasn't like that. It ain't like that. Man, it's just a side. Don't make a trip. Hey, what's up with the issue, boy? Lewis Bell. This episode is sponsored by High Roller. Y'all go tap in, follow the Instagram page. They black on Rambo Black Woman. So y'all tap in right now. Cannabis delivery, all type. I ain't gonna get in detail. Y'all just follow, but I love everybody. Thank you so much. I see y'all. Do y'all get to know like being from Atlanta about like the stigma y'all get from like people talking about like the city of Atlanta hella gay? Do you say do we get to know it? Yeah, like people from Atlanta like hold on.  Can you shout out to y'all, man? Y'all for worldwide. We love everybody. Y'all for worldwide. I done been to Florida. Hello. I seen it. New York. Hello. Come on out. Callie. Come on, Callie. Oh yeah, of course. Come on out. Like this. It's just a train.  But to be honest, bro, when it come to Atlanta, like, you know, the people in our city that's on that tight time, they have their own space for real.   Like it ain't like that, bro.   People done jumped on. But, you know, like I feel like Midtown that area of Midtown Linux over that way. That's where they rock out it. You know what I'm saying?    Like, I'm not.  You know what I really, I did not, I did not know the West side was so far from the East side. Yeah, yeah. They're actually two different worlds. That's how y'all Oakland and goddamn LA is like that. Like East side, West side, two different ballgames, bro. Like you could tell the East side nigga from a West side. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I peeped out and I'm like, hold on this hella far. I did not know that. Yeah. And like Atlanta is like one big circle. All right. Like how the freeway goes. Yep. You could tell, you could tell the difference between two though. What's the difference? Oh, I think we more like on Finesse type time.  You know, East side, you know, even though West side when I did time on the East side, like everybody was in there for robbery. You know what I'm saying? It's the West side. Like where the downtown is that? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. And that's where all the East side is coming around. You feel me? They're coming around because that's where everybody you know, East side, if it ain't like super local on the East side, they'll come to the West side to ultimately party.  Mostly West side nigga over there doing time. Mostly East side nigga over there doing time. How long you was in jail? I ain't never been in jail, man. When I said I went to jail, I picked nigga up. What's Jill? What's that? You were hella funny.  Yeah, yeah, yeah.  I mean, I always just been out smoking, bro. So that just, I wouldn't even say comedian.    I'm just being myself, bro. When did you start doing comedy? I say with me and Floss, me and Floss started on Vine together.  Like, you know what I'm saying?  So like, his first video, my first video we did together.   Like that's when we first started. And then after a while, he started doing stand-up.  Like yo, hey, yo, hey. Naturally funny. Like, you know how to put work.   So it was you, DC Young Fly, and what's the other dude name? Fatty. Fat Pay. Fat Pay, yeah. I remember that. Yeah, yeah. That's raw. So y'all started off doing skits and then it was just like on some like, damn, we damn near real comedians at this point. We got to start performing. Yeah, yeah. And how long, how long after DC was performing? When did you start performing? I think he was, I think he was in like two years of stand-up before I started doing stand-up. And why you was hesitant to start? I just, I just, I used to be stuck, bro. Like if something worked for me at that time, like I don't be feeling the need to do nothing else. That's just how narrow-minded I was at the time.  You know what I mean? You make a quick guy and woo, real quick.   So that's what made me like, you know what I mean? Yeah.  I mean that's crazy. So that's Vine, Vine almost what, been ten years ago? Hell yeah. Right? The first time doing stand-up you were nervous. Longer than that. Yeah.  No, people said I didn't look nervous and they got a hole in the mic with two hands. Pause. Hold it. Hold it. What? That niggas on stage like this. I said, your mic.  I said, your mic. No, I'm saying, you all knew. Like I didn't see it.  I didn't. I was direct with my elbow.  Hold the mic with your hand like that, brother. Okay. That niggas fly with your hands. I said, that niggas fly yelling in the crowd.  I had that deal to give a cheer. Like it was a spell point. Like it was, like a spelling bee or something.  I'm like, oh, y'all, I'm tripping. Bro, that's how long did you do? I think I did. I think I probably did like five minute K-Dub was hosting.   Oh yeah, you were crazy. My first show, I didn't do good. I had all, all these jokes written down and I forgot all of them bitches when I got on stage and I just started being myself like the last two minutes. I tried to tell my jokes three minutes in, like for three minutes straight, I keep forgetting them.  So I just started like, it was quiet when I'm telling my jokes, but when I start improving, I got some laughs. So I'm like, I got to do it again because I feel like I did bad in a sense, but like, okay, but I'm like, I still didn't tell a joke. So I had to go again.  I don't, I don't tell none of them jokes no more that I started out with. Oh yeah, for sure. Like that whole little set, I don't need, you know, I'm like, that's gross.  Man, right? Yeah. So that's true. Yeah. Now that, that's 10, 10 years ago with Vine. So I know, like for me, because I started, I started doing skits on Instagram. Once they started doing a little 15 seconds. Yeah. So Vine was too short because that was like seven seconds. I couldn't make it. That's how you know a comedian for real though, bro. Like you had to bomb, get to the point, ace out and be funny. Yeah.  I'm like, oh yeah, that's the way. Is it, is it draining doing skits now because I see you got like slowed down in the sense. Yeah. I wouldn't say it's draining, bro.   So it's like, I'm a keep, you know what I'm saying? Why am I keep doing that?   No, for real, I kind of feel like everybody has started in that first era of like social media skits. Everybody from that is drained and like, the first content creator, out of it, I didn't even know it was content creators at one point.  I was just doing this to promote my shows. I didn't even look at it like content.  How long we can do this shit?  I wish I started it now. All right now. It's good to be fresh these days too. It's good to be fresh, bruh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Why you say that? Because I kind of feel like people get more famous faster now. Yeah, for sure. Like all these... Like if you came out of nowhere, with your character, you know, stuff like that. Yeah. The grounds set for real. I got what you're saying. The grounds are already set. You can really pick off other niggas. Niggas ain't slick. Niggas taking old video that's been done putting their own spin on. Yeah, that's true. Go through the roof. Exactly. And the people that's the originals, it's kind of like the people that's... They don't even know that nigga no more. Exactly. The people that's imitating it. They figure out other ways how to monetize they likeness and stuff like that. It might be closing, it might be actually acting. But a lot of these niggas not even getting no paper. They just excited off of the famed of it. Yeah, the fame of it. Like how we was at one point, it wasn't like niggas all in London, nigga know me.  You know what I'm saying?  Yeah. You know that? That's always been one to ask people that start off doing it because I kind of feel like, man, it be a lot of people that's the original people that created this content.  Niggas is hella grown. I ain't feeling you making hella skits on that.  I don't talk about it. It's like the good room. I used to watch that nigga every morning, bro. I'm looking for the new shop. You feel me?   Appreciate your country Wayne. You know what I'm saying? Why ain't man? Oh mama, it ain't too many.  You know what I'm saying?  Like that's like, he set that goal. Like that might be the goal. He wanted to leave this in the news. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh mama. Yeah, for our social media niggas set that tone for real. No, that's a fact. Hey, what's happening? It's your boy Louis Belt, August 20th. Get your tickets right now. Louis Belt will be in St. Louis. Check it out, man. Chinggy, Nelly, all you niggas pull up, man. I don't know if y'all still beefing. I don't know what y'all got going out there. All the women with brown booty hoes is still good. Just pull up on me, you understand me? I don't know. This is my first time out there. I'm just excited, man. I just come to the show. I can't wait to see y'all. Yeah, social media and social media is crazy now, bruh.   I know. Cloud is getting worse. Lil Tay. Lil Tay, y'all. You seen that? You talking about Sooyoung. Sooyoung. Is that really Sooyoung? Nah, that ain't Sooyoung. I'm just saying. Oh, I was gonna say she look just like her. You ain't think they been aged in 20 years? Nah, the real Sooyoung thick though, she got a BBL. For real? She got a BBL. Y'all follow her, is it? Y'all follow her? Y'all follow her? Y'all seen her? She found one. I forget what it's under there on the Sooyoung though.  Man, listen. Humped up. Humped up. That's crazy. She like he rapping. She giddy up. She don't stripper pose. She's Sooyoung, bruh. She lying. Okay. I gotta look her up. Yeah. I'm talking about you think you still got some money? Same, man. Look, she rapping, you know. Sooyoung is rapping. She like he stripping, bruh. She like he stripping. She might have a burp. Yeah. She all right. She might have a burp. She got that BBL, you know. She transforms. She's not that girl in the car. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. Pressed the goddamn button. Pressed the goddamn button. Damn. Yeah. Salute. You think, you see what's going on with Lil Dex?  I don't know, man. Please. So I do. Yeah. So that's what we saying, right? We saying, but the family came out and said that somebody hacked it. Yeah. And you know, X, Y, Z. Nobody hacked it. Nobody hacked it. She was doing that for some cloud up. What? I don't know, bruh.  Because I remember when when Flape got hacked. We can't compare Lil Dex. Yeah, we not gonna do that. Listen. I'm just speaking on the hack perspective. Yeah. Remember the girl who got unalived in Chicago? Yeah, just recently. That's all I was gonna say. No, I'm talking about this a way back when in the freezer. Remember in the freezer a long time ago, the story girl got Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. her organs and all that too.  Yeah.  Like they was, you remember frozen, the cartoon frozen? Yeah.  You got kids. I'm a cartoon. That's why you know. Yeah, I'm adding anything. Okay, okay.    People were thinking it was him. I feel you, but the Lil Tay, she's a clout treasure. She ain't nobody today for real. Let me handle it. That's why I feel like she did it for clout. Right. And she just seen what the other black girl just did. What? Did anybody say, did you say R&P? Were you found out she passed away? Hell nah, man. I probably only saw that little girl face one time. I'm telling you.  Yeah, exactly. It was on the phone. I didn't even say R&P and I was glad I didn't if she faked her death. Yeah.   What? I'm glad I didn't tell her R&P because she didn't. Yeah.  Nah, nah.   Right? You know what I mean? I'm glad I didn't say it because it wasn't true. Do you say R&P after everybody died? Like, on Instagram when they be like, such, such died, you be putting R&P or you just like.  I'm getting in your coming like, hey, what happened? What happened? What happened? They don't even read the whole thing. What happened? What happened to the brother? Yeah, right. You ever see somebody birthday? Happy birthday to such thing they died?   What? Wall star be posting like happy birthday with the red highlight. Oh, yeah. I see what you're saying. Happy birthday. It wasn't odd then they get the crime. Oh, yeah.  I'll be honest. They didn't sound like telling niggas happy birthday. Yeah.  Right. How you pick it to say R&P to? Yeah. I mean, damn. Like is it disrespectful to not put R&P when you see somebody passed away on such a beat? No, not at all. You know what be getting me is when the R&P joint do pop up and people like it. Like, I feel like, you know, you're almost liking that thing. Like dead. I don't like when people follow us go up either after they pass.  That's weak. That is weak. It's full. That's weak. That's weak. That's weak. That's weak. That's weak. It is full. Why would you follow somebody that ain't gonna post no more. I hate that for us. But you would unfollow me cause I ain't posting no more. Damn. That was deep. Yeah. You should not be smitten with them cellar, man. That was deep. Come on, man. Cause you would lose followers if you're not posting.    You know what I mean?  They slide up on you and they can hit you with this. I ain't got social media, it's crazy. I just made a video talking about my favorite porn stars. Like it was like a, oh yeah. I think I saved it, I meant to come back to it cause I didn't make my mind up right there. Cherokee. Who your favorite porn star? Cherokee. Pinky was a go and then here come Cherokee. Cherokee, Dawson, she had to, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. She had to, bro.  I'm getting that DVD. That's so tough. This is not took a Cherokee still bad. Roxy Reynolds is wrong, bro. She's fine. I still follow her. I got a Roxy Reynolds. I follow Roxy Reynolds. I'm talking about Cherokee. I got a follow Cherokee. I seen, I seen Cherokee and Roxy Reynolds at one time. Like in real life. Oh damn. And I identified him from the back. That's how many times I watched him growing up. Damn. They was walking, right? And I turn, look, I said, but that looked like Roxy Reynolds. She turned around. She heard me. She turned around. I'm like, oh, she was hella niggas.   Oh, Roxy. Group it up. Group it up.  I identified him from the back. I said, that looked like Roxy Reynolds. She turned around and smiled. I said, see, I probably, I know I done seen her back in the day when I was young, but I just Cherokee just stuck out with you. Yeah, shoot, shoot, shoot. Superhead was a dog too, though. Superhead? Yeah, yeah. She was a real poor stalker. Bitch was doing, y'all. I never seen none of her videos. You know who don't get the credit they deserve is Karma Hayes. I think that's her name. Carmen Hayes. She go crazy. Y'all niggas know, they sleep. But it's a lot of people watching this. I feel like the last one I knew about is the little, the white chick. Alexis Texxix? No. Fuckin' Alexis Texxix. Y'all so poor watching that, niggas. I keep wrong. Y'all's like one of the main, you know, like kind of famous ones. You go straight to page 17. Mix, mix, 17. She got the, she got a, she, she infamous for show. What white girl are you talking about? I'm trying to think, bruh. I like Isabella too, Isabella. I heard of her. Isabella Bells.  I'm like, what you want? You know what's got to happen, dude? Got more of this motherfucker. Mia Khalifa, I think it is. Mia Khalifa, Khalifa. Something Khalifa, Mia Khalifa.  Exactly. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, my son got a poster. I'm wearing the motherfucking robe and blot. For real? Yeah. Y'all remember old school Capri Styles?  Yeah, you have protected six today.  No, I don't know. I know you don't. You get two head to the poor industry. You town dead. No, I was tapped in the head. I know. I know. No, I don't know. I'm like, hello OG girls.  Nigga, I gotta stay protected. And nigga, what bruh?  I finally get on there. Put this condom on.  You don't. Bruh. Y'all still y'all gonna be watching porn? I don't.  I play a video. I'm big on sound. I play a video and set the phone down, bruh. I don't even know it.  That's all I need. This nigga's talking nigga. Jack off on his back in the dark. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to see the nigga. You know what I'm saying? I didn't go off the sound. So you be, you, that nigga, that nigga being in the dark listening to sounds. Yeah, yeah. He the type of nigga to jack off with a rag.   I don't need a rag, but I just said that. Nigga like that. Nigga wake up, that was sticky. You leave the sock on when you done, man. Damn, bruh. But you know, ain't nothing, look.  See that was, y'all don't nigga blip.  But it was still something like, hold on.   I'll get me one, oh it's over, nigga. I'm canceling everything, I'm putting on a movie. I'm chilling.  Nigga, you better get friendly with yourself.  And you know, I'm, I've taken that up the past couple of years. Yeah, no, for real.  I still be watching the OGs. I don't know, no new porn stars. Yeah, nah. You know any new porn stars? How do I watch her? I don't see this nigga. I think Miss D. Naaaaaah, Miss D. I don't see this dude. I don't see this.  They took it to the sun. I'll take it on some Porey Blue Moon. Yeah. They got some new. I would watch myself, I'll record it. I feel you on that, I feel you on that. Record yourself, then you play that for the nickname that you went to. Yeah, I feel you on that. Like you see how jankin' this stuff.  I'll probably never do that. You got a lot of women that like that, they be want to see that. I be running out of stores, though. They be want to see that. I be like, I got to shoot content. I be like, let me just do a sex video so I could do it. It hurt, too. Fuck!    Like, yeah, you know what I mean?  Every ever try to who about to come.  I'm never gonna show this. And the light come on and I'm like. I got video in 2012. Right, when you was trying to sneak in, you trying to sneak in, oh, light come on, fly off. Well, not sneak in, but now, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you doing it, fake way. I feel like the older you get, the more it's acceptable.  So that's the air I'm talking about when that flash came on. As a dope, women be with it. Hell yeah. Nah, I'm for sure. Sneaking, like, filming females as a dope. I don't know. All right, what about this one? Is that illegal? What? To film a female without her knowing that you filming her? Yeah, you get me too real quick. That's what I said. Behind the video? Huh? Behind the video?  Nah, it don't go to get out there. Oh, she catch you? Oh yeah, she could probably, I don't know if she gonna call the police or something like that. I'm like, oh, you better, you better. Have you ever got caught trying to film her? Yeah, yeah. What you doing?  I kept going. Put the camera down.  I'm not trying to deal with that. You might not hit it again after that, you know what I mean?  I know, I'm a pig, bruh.  Yeah. All right, everybody in the world goes number one. Yeah, but how you get me to from that is when, she know your IG, next, you know, she go to her Instagram and she like, oh, X, Y, and Z, and Blase, Blase, and then there you have it right there.  Yeah. I was doing it for real. No, for real.  I always felt like I'm gonna be famous one of these days. Please leave this motherfucker.   Oh, what? In the sidekick days.  If they find that memory card, it's over for me. I should have known no kids like this.     It ain't coming, it ain't.  Remember the old school, you remember the old school?  Come on, man.   So that was me. Yeah, yeah. You got your arm next to it. It's a baby arm. That was the first 30 stick.  Yeah, man. Straight up. Your niggas got it wrong. They got it wrong. They show how long their clip is. Shit, man. My air, dude. You got a show on your dick, yeah. Come on, bro.  Get excited.  No, for real. She got a hundred niggas. Get around town.   She's like, I couldn't wait to see it. Tell me. One of you niggas sitting it. That was gays. Not you niggas. It's a child. That's how you know you were doing that. Who sitting it? Who sitting it? I'll tell you one thing.  I'm still sitting one of 2,000 self-taught.   Who else you want no more? Who else you sent this to? Who else you sent this to? That's what you asked me.  Come on, bro. I think FaceTime messed up the game. FaceTime changed the game. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to sin. Yeah, you ain't got to sin.  You can just get on FaceTime. Show me. Let me see you. Hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. Oh, my goodness. Fall on FaceTime. FaceTime sex really changed the game. Remember old school, you had to really, you feel me? Talk to her. Slap your phone up against it. Put your puts on the phone. You remember females used to put their phone next to you and play with it. Yo, yo. Yeah. Gio, you going crazy. That's easy to go crazy. Right. She like put it, you hear that? You saw that one? Yo, go, you do it again. Yo, go ahead. That's easy to be going. That there was going for show.  Remember the chat line? Yeah, yeah. We talked about that last time. Party line. Party line. FaceTime goes stupider. FaceTime for sure. Oh, if I had FaceTime growing up, I'd have been a boy. It would have been over for me. Man, social media was that way. The technology.  You were lit, bro. And you do a little video, too. The sprint, that's when sprint was in. You know what I mean? Sidekicks was popping in Atlanta. I ain't never had no sidekick. Damn, was it popping in Atlanta, though? I know we had the next tier, Chert. The Chert show. And Razors and Nokia's. Okay, yeah, that's for show. So that's the air after. That's the air before the sidekick. Yeah. You couldn't tell anything. Nothing with a boom over. Chert. Chert. Yeah, for show. For show. For legend. Heavy East Coast thing. I don't think Chert was as big like it was definitely the Nokia. No, the Chert was popping in the bay for show. The Metro was in Chert. Metro was in Chert. You remember that song? Yeah.  It was like the Motorola, right? Yeah. Yeah, Motorola. Yeah.  Nigga Chert, nigga. Walkie Talkie. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that really was a Walkie Talkie. Walkie Talkie. Hey, look, I was just gonna say, nigga, I had a pager. Yeah, you OG. You know what I mean? I had a pager. But no, not because I was supposed to have a pager. No, you OG.  You still an OG for that. Yeah. Yeah, a show. I'll take that one. Yeah, a pager.  I want to know how to work one of the business today. But you know what? I ain't never. But you know what? I never had one turned on. It was just always like the show. It was the front, you know what I mean? It was like the fake gold chain, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.   Yeah, for the look. Yeah, for the look.  I know, bruh. He was talking about you were back in the day.  No, man.  I don't know. Nilly, you got anything you want to say before we wrap it up? Nigga, I'm over here. Nigga, I'm over here.  That's the new Cigarette you want to dance. That's what I'm gonna ask him later. That's a modern day Cigarette. That's what I'm gonna ask him later. You ever thought about like, you know, getting into acting and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, that's what I want to do, man. Man, the department's coming out, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The department's coming out. Shout out T.I.D.C. collars all them. Oh, promise. That T.I. movie you was telling me. Oh, you and that. I'm hella mad. I met T.I. after they shot it. He was down so he put you in that movie. Yeah.  I met this nigga two months after. All right. I'm gonna do something. You acting too? Don't you be acting? Uh-huh, yeah. I want to get into that. Yeah. I feel like the movie's really what take you to the next level like sometimes. I feel like social media take you to the next one more than movies nowadays. Well, I mean, it's certain levels that you get taken to. Uh-huh. Hello. Yeah, certain levels you get taken to. I feel like TV shows, though. Them little TV series. Them be going up. Yeah. Them go up more than movies like Snowfall, BMF and all that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I want to be on one of them. Yeah. A reoccurring role. Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. A reoccurring role. Yeah, because people really get to know you. Yeah. And your money be coming in better too. That money different too. Yeah. Yeah.  The house party money gone. Yeah. Yeah, bro.  Just being in film. You know, like, man. Now, are you the one money good? Uh-huh. Are you the one the TV show was on? Oh, yeah. That's better, because it's a season. Yeah, what that was, bro? What was that? It was a season, a reality show. Okay. And it was, I'm on season seven. Yeah. So it was like 16 episodes. You wanted to do was trying to get the chick or the chick trying to get you? Uh-huh. You understand me? It's supposed to be, you find your match, but you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? They was chasing me on that thing. You understand me?  Yeah, man. She tried to bully me. She did.  Yeah, she tried to bully you at the party. They're like, kiss you in the mouth? Yeah.  And Lou was like, you know, I don't know how to say this, but like, you know, I'm just not attracted to you like that. How'd you say it? I said, I don't find you that attracted. Yeah. Something like that. Broke her soul. Her soul first. She was mad. She was getting on my nerves, bro. Yeah.  Because I was having a good time in the whole show. Yeah. Now it's like, all right, you ruining my guitar. Yeah. But we ended up fixing it. You know what I'm saying? Getting all that to care. Yeah. To get that money. Yeah. To get to the, yeah, of course.  Yeah. But bag, man, I appreciate you for coming through, man. I'm talking about a Chicago kickback. Hell yeah. You understand me? Make sure y'all follow my boy, Money Bag Mafia. You understand me? Yeah. Do people be like, was your name Money Bag Mafia before Money Bag, yo?  So I don't, but people don't understand Money Bag Mafia was like the name of my whole little clique. Like we was MBM, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I didn't expect for it to turn into my comedian name. Yeah. But I just ran with it. I just ran with it. Even like DC Young Fly Hunt. DC is the crew, right? DC is the crew.  You might have DC Lante, DC Nico. You know what I'm saying? That's how they do it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's how you got all these Mazis too. Yeah, exactly. Like Mazis. Oh, that's a Mazis too? Yeah. It's hella Mazis. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's crazy. So yeah. So it's Money Bag. So you was just Mafia? I'm just Money Bag. You know what I'm saying? You was just Money Bag. Yeah.  Louisville Mafia. Louisville Mafia, man. That got crazy. Louisville Mafia. Louisville Mafia. I like that. Let me be in that for a while. Yeah. Yeah. When I was in Atlanta, they got Louisville Mafia. Yeah. That's it.  So, I don't know. No, you might as well run with it. You're too famous. Hell no. You know, you could still reinvent yourself. I can't reinvent myself.  Nah, don't do that. Man, please. It's time. I ain't over-gritted.  It's time.  Yeah, yeah. You know, they love my more dark skin. So, it's kind of like fade a little bit.   That nigga doing a TV show right now.  Fresh as a motherfucker. I feel like that's your signature, though. That's what makes you stand out. Probably. I thought it was saucy. That's how I knew of you before I knew you.  Yeah, yeah. That shit's still on like a motherfucker to me.  You know what I'm saying? It didn't turn it into something worth it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.  Yeah, man, yeah. Oh, I forgot to tell you two recipes. My dog, Teddy Ray, man. He was a fan of yours, too. I know. I used to DM, bro. We used to talk through DM all the time about him, bro.  I'm mad. I never got to met him for real, bro. Yeah.   I appreciate that, man. I talked on the DM type shit, so that was cool, man. He for show thought you was funny. I ain't want to be hating that nigga, man. I see a nigga. I just hit King Batch all the day, man. I've been trying to work with you for years.  Teddy, Teddy.  You funny. I ain't one of them niggas, bro. Yeah. That's Lil Ted right there. We got Lil Ted right there. Lil Big Ted. Big Lil Ted. Big Lil Ted. Yeah, man. Appreciate y'all, man, for tuning in to another episode. My name is Louis Belt, Jamal Tula, Money Bag Mafia.  Yes, Lord. Yes.


from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE covering AWS re-invent 2018.  Good to have you here on theCUBE as we continue our coverage at AWS re-invent or day three here on Las Vegas in the Sands Expo Hall D. And we got about a half hour to come by and say hi to us if you would. But I'm here with Rebecca Knight, John Walls, and two gentlemen here to join us. One from GitLab, Brenda Young, who is the Vice President of Alliances. Brenda, good to see you, sir. Thank you for having us. And Alex Sale, Platform Engineering at Beacon Platform. Hello, Alex, how are you doing? Not bad, I'm surviving the whole experience. Yeah, well let's talk about the whole experience first.  I've picked up that AWS is going very much into this sort of enterprise space. And that seems like, you saw that theme last year, and I think this year it's even more so that they're really cating towards how enterprise and then big organizations are getting in. And I think that's been a big, you can see it in the, how they're doing the storage strategies, how they're doing the network strategies, and how they're just really targeting towards security and compliance and governance. And I think that's a big theme that's from last year to this year, and I think it's going to continue on. Yeah, they've been waving a big flag for sure, telling the enterprise it's safe to come on board. The public cloud's open for you.  I was, yeah. There's some fairly high profile projects there, and you've been at GitLab five months now. Five months, yes. The transition for you, what was behind that? So a couple of it is, I mean, when we get down to it, sometimes you're either a builder or a runner just in the way you're oriented, and I'm a builder. So the biggest thing was love building that kind of from the ground up with Google. Amazing team, they did an amazing job. We got to do a lot of really fun things. Was looking for something kind of new, and I'd worked with GitLab since I ran a partner organization for a lot of the partners at Google. I had worked with them for a number of years, and it's rare when you work regularly with a company that you get surprised. So the kind of the point that I was like, oh, I really need to look into this more deeply is, I've done detailed work with GitLab for years, and I was in mean with Sid, Sid, our CEO, and he kind of, hey, you know what we're up to, and I'm like, oh, of course I know what we're up to, right, because that's, you always answer that. I mean, you don't answer the question, no, I have no idea what you're up to. We met four weeks ago, of course I know what you're up to, and he's really humble, but simply like, oh, hey, you want to see me enter, hey, this is what we're working on. Slides across the forestry port, and he's like, oh, in the CI space, under three years we went from no product to the very best in the business, beat out Microsoft and cloud beats and all these, and I was like, wait, I didn't know you were in the CI space. I shouldn't say this publicly, but I'm like, I didn't know that. It's okay, you got the job. Yeah, it's okay, I know I'm safe, but the ability, just the speed that the company moves, everyone says it, but when you can go that fast with that kind of quality, I was like, I got to dig deeper, and so we just kind of went down that path, and it's been quite an adventure. Obviously, Microsoft-playing GitHub is made for a whole lot of discussions in a whole lot of different ways for us, and competition's good, so it's been a lot of fun. Well, we definitely want to talk about the GitLab and Beacon Platform partnership, but I want to first ask you, Alex, tell our viewers a little bit more about the Beacon Platform. So, Beacon Platform was a company that came out of the financial services from the large banks, the Goldman Sachs, the JP Morgan's, the Bank of America's, and in those places, internally, they actually have this quite open source-like culture where there is people contributing to the same code base, there's a life cycle of how things are done, and it's rapid moving, and people don't associate that with large banks, but there is these products out there. In fact, some of the Goldman Sachs partners refer to those as the golden source, or the secret source. And if large banks can do it, why can't someone else? So we've taken those experiences that people have done for years to build these communities, best practices, and prescriptions, and turn it into a product. So we've taken the same model of, here is a set of financial tooling and infrastructure and toolboxes to make financial applications, and we've brought it to the smaller bunch. So your insurance companies, even your large banks, Commodities, firms, insurance people, they can take our platform and then bring their own analytics and then build financial applications that they want on top of it, and whilst doing so be, ensure that they are compliant with security there. We've done the governance for you, we've done the security for you. All you have to do is put your good ideas to use and make applications. So give us some examples of the business problems that this platform solves. So typically in the financial space, the people that have the great ideas are cons, and they're by nature mathematicians. They're not developers, they're not UX people, they're not UI designers. They're certainly not security people, and yet they are the people that are driving the core business and the value. And so the question is, how do we make them be productive? How do we make sure that their lives are easier? Which means you give them an IDE, you give them a life cycle for software that they can start saying, oh, I've got an idea, I'll hack it up. And when it's hacked, they can publish it, it comes out the other end, and all the reporting is underneath it, it's there. The security is there, the compliance is there, all the authentication is there. And that idea is now being actualized in the matter of days, weeks rather than months and years. And that means that our customers can take these ideas that they've been working on or are just conceiving and turn it into reality in a very short amount of time. And then be comfortable that that whole platform itself remains secure, compliant, and all the same thing that Amazon is actually touting to us. You know, it seems like if you're focused, your core competence was, or is financial services. I mean, you're starting at a very high level of demand client, right? Yes. And appropriately so. And so there are a lot of lessons that migrate to other businesses that I would assume are quite attractive to them. Because if you mention your BOA, if they've got comfort, I have comfort, right? Because how much of that do you see that the experiences that you've developed or that you have put them through translate in a very positive way to all other sectors? We've found that some of our customers are starting off in the cloud, and they're thinking the cloud journey. They're financial companies that want to take the journey to the cloud, but they don't really know how to. And so we as a company which has already running on the cloud are, as a company, we don't actually own a physical single server. We're all in the cloud, all in. And they, our customers come to us to say, how are you in the cloud? What do you do? You have the experience, you've worked at these places. How does that all work? And so we give them a sort of, in the same way that our platform does, prescriptive advice on how things are going to be done. And our customers come along with us on the journey. And so we take the customers on their cloud journey, whereas the customers are taking us on their needs and bringing their needs and what they need to us to say, I want to build an application like this. What more do I need to do? What do I have to do? And so it's a very collaborative relationship between our customers to say, I can help you in the cloud space. You can help me help us in the financial idea space. And together we can actually make applications. Whatever we build ourselves becomes, we can resell it to others, whilst the customer's intellectual property can stay with them. And that, it's a really interesting collaboration of. Symbiotic in many respects, right? I mean, you're leaning on them. And what about the relationship between the two of you then, in terms of? Yeah, so as much as Beacon is very financial services focused, we're DevOps tool, end-to-end DevOps tool for anyone, right? So in many ways what Beacon is doing is taking what GitLab's done about building that whole tool chain. Cause there's really a tool chain crisis out there of if you start looking at what needs to be set up for a developer, like they want to live in their IDE, do their development and publish, as he said. But if you start looking at what needs to be set up after that, you're talking oftentimes in a company, 12, 15 other steps that they go through. And that was kind of our aha was there's an opportunity to treat that as one full application. As a DevOps tool set across the entire board. Started down that journey really like three years ago. And that's kind of I think where we kind of match up the similar story. They wrap all the important financial data, all the other things that matter to a bank, right?  But at the core of it, they also leverage GitLab both as a tool to develop their own product and also to offer it as a tool possibly to their own customers, right? So their other customers need to develop, they need a DevOps tool set. So we work back and forth a whole lot on this. They move so fast. It's been amazing. And so every time we sit down, we're like, wait, what if we did, okay, cool, let's iterate. And we have, we can turn that around. We ship every month to our customers. You can run it anywhere you want. The majority of our customers, they love the fact that they can run anywhere, which is back to while Beacon runs on Amazon. Their customer base have to run on-prem, right? And, you know, while we're seeing that hybrid become more and more common, which is great. That's the truth that's been there forever. That's a world that we've lived, they live every day and have lived for a long time. And so it's kind of fun to come here and see that, be like, yes. Oh yeah, that does exist. And we're like, yeah, that's exist for a long time. Everybody caught up. Right, yeah, we're there. And there's always going to be reasons for that on both directions. And so, yeah, so we work really well together on that side and they push us hard, right? So we're actually right off stage.  Well, he opens, it's open. Everyone in the world, anyone that watches this, go put a merger quest on GitLab. We're going to track it. You're going to know where it lands. You're going to know when it gets delivered. So, and if you want to write the code, you can write it and it's in. So it's been actually a ton of fun. And have that, right? Yes. Well, the relationship's working, good to see. Yes. And you're five months in and I'm sure the one year anniversary is right around the corner for you. Sure, yeah. I'll turn around before you know it, right? Oh, yeah. Gentlemen, thanks for joining us. Good to have you here on theCUBE and look forward to hearing about this continuous success down the road, I'm sure. Thank you. Thank you so much. Appreciate having us. Thank you both. Back with more here on theCUBE, you're watching this live at AWS ReInvent in Las Vegas.


When you jump over a puddle, climb a tree, or play a game of basketball, you're doing things that no robot can currently do. You're outperforming the work of thousands of scientists, companies, and even governments. Now, for you and me, moving around is really easy. But for our robot to control its motion, it's much harder. If we can somehow copy our motor control on robots, then we could save lives that are placing humans on hazardous jobs like firefighting, performing a space walk, or even cleaning up the meltdown at the Fukushima nuclear reactor. If I want to grab this drill, I just pick it up. There's no thinking involved. But why is that? It's because my subconscious mind is recruiting billions of brain cells to do all the complex calculations involved for me. When I decide to pick up the drill, I first rely on 30 to 50% of my brain to subconsciously process the signals from my eyes.  My brain subconsciously transforms these vague commands first to basic motor plans in my premotor cortex, then more precise muscular instructions in my motor cortex. Finally, my cerebellum perfectly coordinates activation patterns that get passed to the brainstem and sent out to all of my muscles. Once I take my first step, my brain is constantly comparing the plan with the real-time situation and adapting to what I'm sensing, even if I'm not fully aware of it. Now you can start to see why it's so hard to get robots to do these complex tasks. It's not as easy as just controlling a motor. You have to plan and perfectly adjust all of the motors together. With robots that have wheels or treads, we don't have to worry about balance, since we always have a stable base. But if one of these robots comes across stairs or a ladder, its mission can come to an early end. That's why we're working on bipedal robots, robots that have two legs. Though they're harder to control, they're more adaptable and better suited to work in environments that are made for humans. I'm here with a bipedal Atlas robot, made by Boston Dynamics, that the MIT team is using to compete in the 2013 DARPA Robotics Challenge. You can call him Helios. Now MIT is working really hard to develop Helios's brain, which is really a series of algorithms or steps that Helios can take to take his sensor data to control each of his 36 joints and motors. Without this brain or these algorithms in place, Helios is really just a very expensive 330-pound pile of metal. The MIT team is working hard on algorithms that improve Helios's ability to walk on difficult terrain. Currently, a human operator must send commands to Helios through a wirelessly connected computer. The operator looks at the sensor readouts from Helios and decides what basic actions are all it should do. This is sort of like how my frontal lobe took the visual input from the back of my brain and made basic plans for my motor system to carry out. Helios's operator makes these decisions for him, but once the command is sent to Helios, it's up to the robot to execute them himself. So Helios's brain is kind of a hybrid. It's part human and part computer. But why do we even need our human operator? Well, that's because as difficult as motor control is, motor planning is even harder. It takes a lot of knowledge about your environment to translate your goals into plans. To us humans, it's really obvious how to pick up this drill. But that's because we already know so much about it. We know that it's solid. We know about how much it weighs. That's being held up by the table. And we know to pick it up from the handle. But to program all of this information and so much more into Helios, it would be impossible to do it for every conceivable object. However, there are some labs that are working on other robots that can learn this information slowly from its environment, like we do when we're infants or toddlers. For Helios to perform a task completely on his own, his creators have to answer one more question. How to adapt to an ever-changing environment? If I go to pick up this drill, but someone takes it before I can get there, I can run after them and take it right back. But if I were to take this drill from Helios, he wouldn't know what to do without his human operator. It takes 30 to 50% of our brain power just to keep up with all the sensory information from our eyes. So you can imagine how challenging it would be to program a robot to continuously pay attention to his surroundings and adapt to them. Fully autonomous robots are on their way. But partially autonomous robots, like Helios, can still be very helpful while we're waiting. Maybe one day soon, firefighters will be controlling robots that can carry people from burning buildings. And astronauts might even do their spacewalks remotely, controlling a robot like Helios from Earth.


This aims to sort of put South Africa back into its sustained and inclusive growth path. The research that we are doing is going to be top-right. It's going to be frontier academic research, to allow for policymakers to say how do we come up with policies that are based on empirical evidence. Doing this in a way that builds the capacity of our junior researchers. So this is capacity building related to the development of younger researchers with a particular strong focus on previously disadvantaged groups and women. This is quite unique in the world and particularly unique in emerging markets. So it's really trying to push the boundaries of research. Trying to engage with the policy making community. To the extent that we can help to design policies that allow South Africa to get greater prosperity spread throughout the region, that benefits everybody. That would generate lower cost electricity, generate more manufacturing, more jobs, greater GDP. And all of this coming in with greater environmental benefits. This is going to make a very big contribution to how policy is made in South Africa and neighbouring countries. If we can make this thing work, it will have very high impact.


I decided to apply to New America to be a fellow because I have always been so impressed with what prior fellows have done, taking their ideas, making it into a project, and then making that project have a long life afterward. I applied to become a New America National Fellow in order to find a community of scholars and thinkers and journalists who are doing interesting work, who I can exchange ideas with. Writing a book can get pretty lonely when you don't have peers to be social with and to engage with and to share ideas with, and the New America Fellowship seemed like an amazing opportunity to have that kind of community. So having the chance to work with other writers, work with professionals who are really passionate about this kind of work was very enticing to me. I really wanted to be a part of the New America community. I learned so much from other people and from conversation. To be surrounded by some of the greatest minds in journalism and filmmaking and storytelling at large, I could fill up my tank with their energy. I could take their insights into my own reporting and also maybe even network with folks who can help me tell a better story. I need to be pushed. I need to work with brilliant people who are going to challenge me, question me, make sure that I do the best possible version of my work. I really love the work that New America supported and I want to be part of this community. I can learn from other thinkers to be a better storyteller and really to form a better understanding of the world we live in.


Доброе утро. Мы можем начать, я думаю. Спасибо большое, что приходили. Для того, чтобы услышать презентацию, мы подготовили для вас. Я надеюсь, что это будет довольно интересно. Меня зовут Анна Толопешкова. Я представляю компанию GSR Corporation. Моя главная тема презентации, есть много технических деталей, которые мы хотим поговорить о использовании, в какой-то использовании, и какие-то челленджи, на introduction of new type of security или о том, как мы собираем идентичную идентичность в IOT. Просто немного о GSR. Вы получите идею, почему мы говорили об этом. GSR — это социальная компания. Мы делаем много работ для различных компаний в индустрии, в различных индустриях, особенно в IOT. Так что GSR — часть хайпер-леджер фондации. И в том числе, что мы частьем CSA. Если вы не знаете, что это CSA, это коммуникация, коннективность стандартной линии. Вы можете найти эту информацию CSA-IOT.org. Это очень большая организация, которая имеет 350 компаний. В основном, это древесер в IOT-индустрии. Большие имя — Amazon, Google, Apple, LeGrand, а также большие компании, которые работают в IOT-индустрии. GSR — очень активная компания CSA. Мы работаем с стандартами. Мы работаем с стандартами, мы были на CSA за 10 лет. Просто как референсация CSA, это форма ZIGBI Alliance. Это может дать вам больше снаряжений. Компания CSA-ISR не очень огромная. Собственно, это социальная компания. У нас почти 300 инженеров. Мы работаем с маленькими компаниями и большими корпорациями. 400, 500, и global 2000. Большинство — 3 маркета. Норсамерик, Европа и Япония. Это 3 фокусы для GSR. Хэд-квартера в Калораде — Дэнгер, который пришел чуть-чуть. Вы увидели фотографию с красивым лейком. Это в Калораде. Это очень приятно. Это небольшая информация. Компания была создана в 1998 году. У нас есть несколько дивизий. У нас есть очень большая IOT-дивизия. У нас есть бизнес-дивизия, который работает в десентролитетных системах. GSR-Аргент been a contributor для Индии, Эрис и Дитком. Вы можете увидеть наши имя. Мы работаем с многими компаниями в индустрии, очень близко, как партнер. Что мы говорим? В основном, мы поговорим о использовании и челленджах, Introducing SSI for IOT. Но, перед этим вопросом, я буду разговаривать с челленджами в индустрии IOT, в связи с секретой. Секретой в IOT. Если вы работаете в IOT, вы понимаете, что это основная база для секретой в IOT. Есть какие-то проблемы, в том числе конфинитаризации. Это очень важный вопрос. Так что, в том числе, There were several governing laws introduced, JDPR and California SB 327. By the way, California SB 327 was specifically addressed to IOT, security issues. A lot of companies and standards had to adjust their approach in security. That actually brought us to new standards. As soon as a new standard is introduced, there is a new implementation, it has to come in place, certification and then release of the devices or solutions on the market. This is a little brief about JDPR. What kind of requirements it introduces and California Consumer Privacy Act. These are two main drivers in the last, I would say, 3-4 years for IOT, for security, I mean. Let's talk a little bit about digital identity. Digital identity overall, we all understand what does it mean for people. Yes, we can have our traditional identity, like passport or ID and so on. However, the new identity we are getting in place is related to digital identity. It's very interesting that we are as humans. Yes, we have to have an identity, but at the same time, if you think about, let's say, a device, it's a proxy for us as humans. They have devices, they have a lot of data. It means there is a right away, the issue is around privacy, how the data is stored, who has access to the data. And it means every device has to have an identity. If you think about how many devices right now deployed on a market, on a planet, it's a huge number, really huge, like wireless communication like sensors. Even in this room, if you start counting, I'm sure we can count about 200 devices, at least, including, of course, your cellphones, your laptops, different kinds of motion sensors, video cameras, small color devices, and so on and so forth. And all these devices, they have to have an identity. So, and again, we are talking about challenges for digital identity. The main is trust and privacy. There are some standards already in place, but we need to really improve it and work on it. So, let's check what kind of identity models are available on the market. At first, very traditional cell identity, you know, SSL, base TLS SSL. This is, you can see it, case number one. So, when you send some information, confirmation, confirmation, and it's directly confirmed by organization. So, then there is a second type of identity confirmation. It's a third party, and we all can see it's in place, in play, when, for instance, like you are trying to register yourself on some website, it's offering you, like, using Facebook identity or your Google identity. So, this is all, and again, all the information is stored in those storages of those providers. Of course, there is a deficiency here, because we cannot control our identity. Now it's all controlled by third parties. And it's not necessarily evil, by the way, because it's just a convenience for right now. So, but we need to evolve those methods. And very important protocol X.509, it's in place, heavily used in IoT. A lot of money is already invested into support for that protocol in IoT. A lot of companies, they spend millions and millions of dollars for the infrastructure. And we will talk a little bit later about what does it mean. But if you think about overall, it's great. There is some infrastructure in place. However, this is a huge obstacle for moving forward with new methods for introducing new security and identity methods on the market. Why? Because a lot of money is already in place, invested, and when you are making new decisions, like moving to a new method, then it means always money will go to nowhere. And it means every person who made a decision to invest into this kind of infrastructure will be, I would not say exactly personally responsible. However, it's a career-related decision. So it means we are having more interesting obstacles for implementation of new methods. So the new method is an SSI, self-sovereign identity. Most of you are quite familiar with that. This is a new method, which we are trying to introduce in IoT. But in order to introduce it, we need to have main players being at first interested in new methods. There should be a reason why it should be introduced. And secondly, we need to get those companies on board so they will start pushing a new approach on the market. And that's quite a task. Now, let's talk about IoT in general, specifics of the security in IoT. So yes, there are several specifics. However, the main ones, of course, we need to make communication secure. That's pretty clear, very simple. But if you think about IoT, there is a lot of wireless communication involved here. And a lot of embedded devices. And this is a completely different world. And usually developers, people who are working on hyperlator, blockchain and so on, they don't understand it exactly. Why? Because, well, here's a computer, you just design the code, and who cares how much memory it takes, how much resources, CPU and so on. Actually, people of course care, I'm simplifying it. However, not the way how embedded software engineers care, because here is every byte, every cycle CPU should be counted and every system should be strictly budgeted. So in that case, we have a quite a challenge. It means all the methods we are talking about, they have to be implemented strictly and focused towards embedded devices. Let's talk a little bit about 509. And again, I don't want to kind of go over in details, because this is all public information. You can, there is no innovation here. We are talking about, I just want to make a reference. What exactly happening? And so 509 have been quite a traditional approach in IoT for digital identity for devices. And it's really, there are a lot of efforts to make 509 working for IoT devices. Some are okay for some ecosystems. Some are really not very successful. If you think like latest protocols coming to the market about IoT, if you are familiar, there is a new protocol matter, which will be released in December. That's a new protocol for IP-based devices. It can be based on like Ethernet, or it can be based on thread. If you know thread, it's a wireless communication protocol, kind of like a successor to Six-Low-Pen. So 509 is really kind of a real base for these protocols. However, that classic approach doesn't allow us to move forward. There are some drawbacks and deficiencies in this protocol. For instance, as I talked about like footprint, footprint of devices, it's a really big deal. Why? Because when you are releasing a device, like I don't know, let's say motion sensor, that device can be released like 100 million devices. I'm just talking about scale. It means when you are adding more memory, the price is going up and overall the cost of that investment and solution is huge. So 509 has a lot of deficiencies here. Why? Because the key itself is very long and storing it on a device can be too expensive. This is the way how it works usually. So we are talking about here two personas, Alice and Bob. All the verification is going through the root authority, the root public certificate. By the way, just for reference, I'm not exactly a specialist in security. So I can answer some questions, but not all of them. So I'm just representing the topic. But I know a little bit more about IoT. So what's happening here, you can see, so it's always involved root. And that's kind of a very critical point, because it brings, if root will be compromised, so if the implementation is not really strong, it means all the certificates for all the devices will be compromised. And the entire system, that's a huge security breach. So it means that approach, it still works, but in this case, we will have an issue. And 509 doesn't give us a lot of privacy. What does it mean?  And it's not good, actually, because you understand like there is some information not related to verification process at all. I can give you a real example of life. So I live in Colorado, but there are different states of the way how they handle your access to alcohol, for instance, in a bar. So you know how it's happening, the waiters, they check your ID. And they check ID, they can see your database. So they know exactly how old are you. And they can check, for instance, in some cases, social security number. There is some additional information, which is not exactly related to the case, because what waiters should be worried about, I'm over 21, right? But in some states, I don't want to name it, but in some states, even worse, they take your ID, they go into some room and sending that information to the state government. And this is the kind of demonstration that your information is leaked to some third party, and you have no control on this. So SSI-idea, so to make privacy conventionality working more granularly, that's the idea. So that's, I was talking about already that case. So there are several more issues related to 509. I don't want to talk more, because definitely that solution has to be improved. And this is why we believe that SSI approach will give us a chance to improve it dramatically. So there are several issues, as I said. Non-selective disclosure, no authorization. And besides that, I talked about overhead and single point of failure. So again. So let's talk about what SSI self-sovereign identity provides us and what kind of advantage will give us so we can improve security for devices. Not only for people, but overall for devices as well. We believe that SSI approach will help to create more robust and more reliable security. And help us to control identity of devices. Which is very important. And this is the way how it works. It's slightly different than in case of 509. But, well, there are some actually similarities. There is an article, very nice one. If you want to check the difference between 509 and SSI, I can give you a reference to that article, which explains like very much in details what is the essential difference. So what SSI provides? SSI provides security, of course, private, privacy, and verifiable relationship. So verifiable credentials. We all know, yes, there are some already examples of digital passwords, device certificates, access tokens, and bank accounts. So we are talking about what are the key terms for SSI. I'm just giving you time to read. I can read it for you. This is the way how the SSI verifiable credentials work. It's a workflow. On the left side you can see issuer. Issuer issuing a credential, which goes to holder. And holder, in our case, device. Or a person stores the data in their memory or their device. And there is a verifier. And then there is a decentralized network. It can be a blockchain for creating a story of some public information. By the way, it's not exactly... It can be not a blockchain at all. Some of the solutions can be used without blockchain. So it's not necessarily like blockchain is involved. Blockchain just helps to store that information publicly and being decentralized. Okay. Well, that slide showing like a magic of SSI. Of course, there are a lot of technical details here. Very important ones. This distinguishes a new approach against the previous ones. But this is kind of like overall a dream, I would say. So privacy, again, talking about privacy, it's a big deal. And SSI approach completely provides a mechanism so the way how our privacy and device privacy can be preserved. So here we have several actors, I would say Alice and Bob. And the way how Alex deals with shared information and presents it to Bob about banks and hospitals and police. It's very interesting. So that is the case. We have a demo. I will show you a little video. Actually, it's an actual IoT demo of the implementation the way how SSI could work for IoT. Well, you probably know there are several companies trying to implement SSI already for IoT, but again, there are a lot of obstacles here and like real good implementation, I mean true implementation, as we know, doesn't exist yet. Because we still need to work on a lot of technology side details. Repeatability, that's one of the issues here. And 509, for instance, always non-reputable. So here we have a case and SSI completely solves it. And it's very important that SSI helps us to provide not all the information, provide the only information which is required for specific case. And 509, in this case, of course, will disclose everything, which is not even related to the case. There is an anonymous revocation mechanism. That's very important as well, part of the deal. And this is the way how the authorization is happening. By the way, that presentation will be available as part of all materials for a conference. So you can check it. Of course, you can ask questions or personally questions, happy to answer. So SSI actually provides delegation for authority. These are kind of like a regular case. If you think about, I know, I have a question for you. Who has like home automation at home? Like system. How many? Like a garage or a door, or you have it. Okay, several people.   But some of the systems now, they, like on the application level, allow in doing it. For instance, I can delegate some of the rights. But SSI actually helps in delegation quite a bit. It provides additional mechanism and security. For instance, you can say, okay, that person can access my home like five to six in the morning or, I don't know, during like two to three p.m. to fix some electrical issues and so on. Most important, zero knowledge IoT clouds. That is a big deal. Why? Because every IoT system stores a lot of data about us. Like when you come home, when you are living home, what is the temperature, how you are using electricity and all this kind of stuff. But SSI helps us to make all this data basically not personalized. So it means even if you will have access to the data, it will be difficult to connect to a specific person. That's very important. So it's zero knowledge IoT clouds. Here we are talking about distributed source of trust. So there is no single point of failure which is important. It means if the network will be compromised, it will be only kind of very much localized. And you can see one of the several approaches how it can be done. This is kind of more technical. So talking about compact revocation. So it can be done in very efficient way. Again, we are very much up to using SSI against 509. So we would like to push it. And by the way, if you are interested in exploring that approach, please talk to us. Happy to find partners and people who really or organizations who really like to have it deployed on the market. Now I will talk a little bit about Hyperledger Indie and Aries. Why? Because our company was one of the maintainers and contributors to Indie and to Aries. So overall this is very generic information and you might know that. So Indie is an independent identity basically. This is an course software, which is an active project which is part of Hyperledger and Linux Foundation. Everyone can access it and download and contribute and so on. This is a state right now at Indie to the moment. There are several components which are written in Rust, Python, Node.js .NET but It's very interesting like can you use one of those components like for IoT? It's not applicable. Yes, you can use it like on a gateway which is pretty powerful device can be. But on a actually like a very much restricted device that's not possible. So it means we have to create additional software specific range of devices. And you know the challenges we are talking about are substantial. Let's talk about like what kind of devices we are dealing. Let's say there is a gateway. It can be like Linux or FreeRTOS whatever it is, operating system and there are a lot of resources to handle SSI. However, if you will move like two sensors in that case you will have a challenge. Why? Because the devices are very much restricted. Not only on a like ROM size or ROM size. They are restricted on amount of energy because if you will move like one step up or depends on down let's talk about green power devices. If you are familiar with green power devices these are really super restrictive devices. For instance, like when you are using, you can be using switch which is a can be battery less switch. It means what's happening light switch, you are pushing the button and there is some mechanism which generates enough memory enough energy for CPU to process like a certain very small amount of operations. And all the security certification verification should be able to fit into the usage of that amount of memory. So we are pretty challenging task and make it secure. We need to understand how far we want to go with that security approach. Well, some of you know Eris, so Eris I would say like not exactly new generation of India, it's a more decoupled architecture than India itself. So DSR has been working on Eris as well. But besides I want to tell you that DSR itself we have been working Fabrik and Aserium, so we have been using a lot of components in our development depends on customers and so here we are talking specifically about India and Eris because the demo is based on India. Okay, so what is the difference between India and Eris? There are a lot of differences, but it's more like components. So it's more decoupled and less I would say not solid, I would say it. More flexible architecture than India. And again, the demo I'm going to show you it's based on India, but here we have a comparison between India and Eris, so you can see the difference. Let's talk about IoT use cases for SSI. Okay. The main challenge for in IoT when most of the security breaches is happening, this is the moment when we are commissioning device it means that device has to provide security authentication to appear where it's connected to the network. So making sure if the device will be included into the network it has to be secure. It's not a device which is not authorized, should not be connected. And that moment actually is a very important moment because most of the breaches if you see happening on the market, it's at the moment when the commissioning of the device is happening. By the way, I don't know if you try to connect let's say homecoming feature of your car like opening the garage door actually I had an incident and I was commissioning the device and at the same time my neighbor opened the garage and my device got connected to his garage. That's really unacceptable. So it means that moment is very I'll say intimate and very important one. So addressing that device authentication it's a very critical step. And this is the way how the SSI can help solving that. So this is a continuum of device authentication. There are some little details here. Of course in real life if we would implement it part of the standard there are more details has to be worked out and a lot of of course review and security site excuse me have to be done. Well now we are talking about the smart the use case itself. So the idea is so Alice she wants to delegate access to her smart log to the neighbor this delegation basically and to Bob and this is the way how it can be done using SSI. And here is the case how revocation could happen in this case. And this use case it's number 3 showing how to preserve privacy not sharing a lot of information about private information with third party. So basically Alice she wants to access a door and she has to be over 18 years old. Let's talk about like she wants to access a bar and she wants to get in so she's just using her credential and in that case the credential will send a message confirmation that she's over 18 but it will not specify how old is she. So that is really very important. So there are several more additional use cases. We have kind of listed here you can see, but of course the number of use cases is huge in IOT and if you are using at home IOT devices you need to think about your privacy quite a bit. There is by the way IUXT Alliance in the United States that IUXT Alliance is working all about security and one of the members actually did a check at his house where interesting he has many devices and he checked how much traffic is going out of his house and he found out that the amount of traffic was huge really. So yes there is traffic incoming initiated by him but the amount of traffic generated by some Wi-Fi router actually had to turn it off because he didn't know what kind of information was translated to the net. So it means security is really a big deal and especially so you need to be in control of your security. This is a demo by the way a demo is available on the internet you can download the presentation and there is a link to YouTube video I will try to run that video here just a second it's a very short one basically couple minutes ok, here we are this is a demo showcasing a blockchain IOT security use case using the ZigBee IOT stack this process is widely applicable to security and hospitality applications and increases the efficiency and security of access control while also maintaining the total privacy user or guest So let's walk through the process and a simple use case First we have to start with credentials Credentials are initially created by an authority such as a government The credential in this example consists of basic information such as a name and birth date Think of it as a license or passport Upon issuance this credential is signed by the authority using a key that is rooted on the blockchain This allows us to use the blockchain as a source of trust later on for storing public information such as the issuers public keys Here you can see the initial credentials issuance process Notice how fast and simple it is to create a new set of credentials and to create a secure connection between devices using a simple barcode Then, in order to gain access to something, in this case our hotel mini bar the prover connects to the gateway or verifier via a public key The gateway then requests a proof from the prover who sends back a zero-knowledge proof For instance, the proof verifies that the person is old enough to access the mini bar but does not tell you their age Here you can see the whole system The small white box is the gateway The black box is the lock we will be operating and an indicator light bulb is on the left First we create a connection between the prover and verifier The prover gets a public key from the gateway and fulfills the proof request from the verifier You can now see from our indicator light that the user's proof has been verified and the box will unlock In a situation such as our mini bar example it is likely that we would want to grant repeat access to the user You can see here that the user can use their existing credentials to unlock the mini bar without repeating the issuance process just as you would with a real-world ID or passport If the credential doesn't match the proof request in this case if the user is too young the app will generate no proof and the user will simply see an error message It is important to remember that the zero-knowledge proof is not the same as the user's credential and it does not disclose all of the information about the prover, but only the required information In this case it's sufficient to prove that the user is old enough to access the mini bar but their exact age, name and birthday will not be disclosed This system allows for access control without interface between the prover and authority The zero-knowledge proof can be verified by the verifier in this case the mini bar via the blockchain without direct communication with the issuer The issuer or authority can even be offline and the verification will still work This way the user can be granted secure access without ever disclosing any of their private information Visit our website today and let us know how DSR can help you come up with a solution for your product or company Thank you Just for your reference what kind of tools you use here you can see like 2 iPhones and there is a gateway the gateway itself is on Raspberry Pi so it means we had to implement SSI on Raspberry Pi and we did some of the implementation is done DoorLock It's a ZigBee DoorLock We are using ZigBee protocol for this demo Okay Well, that's all Actually Thank you Well, that's a link Oops No worries, it's all good Teamwork So that's a link from the presentation Well, we have like 2 minutes left for questions, but you can ask me questions after the presentation itself So again, my name is Anatoly Peshkov I'm a CEO and founder for DSR Corporation company out of Colorado Denver Please talk to me if you have questions or ideas Okay, thank you