Cory Cory a.k.a. Pimp C because you don't make false accusations against people unless you have unless you have evidence if I say something about another individual and it's a and it's a character assassination or I'm Accusing somebody of a moral issue, and I don't have proof. That is a false accusation I'm doing the enemy's work If Satan is the accuser of the brethren, and then I'm making false accusations, then what does that make me? Why not simply call Cory because he didn't call me when he made this video? That's why I don't expect him to call me when he makes videos. He shouldn't expect me to call him when I make videos before you assume Ask or ask Before you assume Cory said at one point that John John MacArthur John Mack was wrong Do you know why he changes position brother at once you find out you let me know for you to assume Immotives and impugn my character just because I didn't respond to your email or call you is a violation of the 9th commandment For those who just coming in and thinking that I'm just trying to you know Dog this but I'm not dogging this brother verse verse 15 Make sure that none of you suffers as a murderer or thief or Evil doer or Troublesome Metler, but if anyone suffers as a Christian as A Christian a disciple of Christ a Christ follower He is not to be ashamed Cory didn't go to prison because he was a Christian Cory with the prison because he was a crook That's why with the prison Cory Cory aka pimp see Good morning afternoon and evening for those of you out there who's watching the Smart Christian channel you all think in that I I'm I look better Didn't Cory minor much better Didn't do I wear better suits as well. Well, he don't wear suit. I listen. I don't know what's gonna go What's gonna happen here? Cory have other things that he's gonna put up so I have not seen them as a matter of fact this opening right there I hadn't seen that before I am coming in here blind Green and I will say that this show was not going to be a seiko woods bashing show I don't believe in that as a matter of fact, let's open up in prayer God We thank you for your presence and your blessings in this room There's so many people here watching because they need to hear the full story the whole story So that we all can come together and agree Some of us are still going to disagree, but we want you to be in the room Your scriptures did say through the text that where there's two or three gathered you said you'd be in the midst Many of us have misunderstood that as to mean worshiping in church But God as we continue to read her minutely we have discovered that that means disputes You will be in the room when there are disputes on the floor So God I know for a fact that now there are two three and there are thousands we're going to be here who are listening to This Cory miners his personal story We want to be transparent God and so that the people can see us put our Hearts on the table and that we all talk about it And then we close this case and we pray together and then go back to preaching the gospel We thank you God for the people who are here We love you for your strength and we give you a name to praise in Jesus name. Amen I want to tell you all that there are some audience There's two four types of audiences that are here now. I'm gonna check my audio here Okay, to make sure that my audio is fine because one when Cory comes on if we hear some echo I'm gonna have to put my headphones on so moderators. Let us know if you hear echoes when the both of us are talking There are four types of audiences that are here the bunkers my community is watching the bunkers are we call them the bunkers because of a Joke that happened a few years ago and then it became something that we hailed on to we We talked from the bunker. It's a private Safety safe place for us to do what we do on our show and if you want to join me come join me in the Bunker on the ground. All right. It's a long long story That's one audience the second audience Obviously is the smart Christian channel and his his wonderful community. That's there to support this young man The fourth or the third audience is those from sacred Woods community Who have been hearing and watching many of his videos on on Cory? Minor and then the fourth audience are those of you who don't know what's going on You have no clue. This might be your first time listening and watching right those four audiences all of you will be affected moderators are on cue to Read the comments and some of them will be pretty harsh We are expecting that because I have put Cory and we'll be putting him in a very Maybe uncomfortable put position for him Because he he's got to be vulnerable to talk about his past His past is kind of like mine and you have to go to so Walter Jones show to see what I mean by that Now on my channel, we don't we don't block people We we don't redact and all these things we let people say things and disagree with us Sometimes they'll cuss us out and we let because we want the people to see That how we are persecuted over there The only time I have my monitor is to delete someone is because if they're becoming too Distractive where it is becoming too dangerous because we do have milk drinkers over there who might get pulled in by that danger So they must they must remove these people now. I'm gonna show y'all a picture And I don't know if I'm able to do it here but I'm gonna show y'all a picture and Let's see if it work Okay One second here This picture here. I saw this on YouTube Facebook yesterday, and I said they go the gays again Here they are again. Why would they go to guys go up there on the pole and one guy to the leap down? Stoop down so he could be kissed by this other guy. I'm so tired of these games and As I began to read the comments the the caption on this picture I I come to find out that that picture is not what it looks like It's not what it looks like What that picture is is that the man on the left? Who is stooped who's bending down is? One of the electric workers He got electrocuted. He stepped on the wrong pole He hit the wrong wire He fainted the man on the right was giving him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation And he saved his life This picture was taken in 1968 the man who took the picture won a What's that award that you get when you for photographs? Okay? It was gripping to see the write-up on this story, and I says isn't that something? When someone tells your story How people receive the story is determined on how the story is presented a picture tells a thousand words and Sometimes I want you hear a story when you go to the movies It's really up to the audience how he or she portray or understand or interpret the story so it is Always best to hear the story from the person and whom their life is all about I want to hear a man's life Story instead of hearing from someone else, but this is also why The scriptures tells us that to In the midst of two people two must bring a witness not just the one when the two come or three Then the fool's story comes to life What we don't want to do is when I'm getting ready to show you here in the scripture Is what I used to do and I've learned my lesson. Well Right here Acts chapter 12 says about the time King Herod a gripper began to persecute some believers in the church He had the Apostle John John's brother killed with a sword. Why did he have him killed? well When Herod saw how much he this pleased the Jewish people he also Arrested Peter What's the story here? I was doing the same thing. I went after Earl Carter of the church of God in Christ because He had started to do some things on his YouTube channel that I thought That I thought was not Christian like So I began to do videos on him when I saw that my YouTube channel went from 200 Subscribers to a thousand subscribers within the week. I kept going after him Why because it pleased the people but what I didn't realize is that That was not supposed to be My goal with the YouTube channel the Lord has sent me to preach and teach the gospel Sometimes I know that we have to use some people who male or female Who may say some things that is so maybe salacious or so ungodly or so? The the teachings of doctrines of devils may come out of this person that it causes all these people out there to say amen So you may have to point Your attention to that person to bring out the points that they're making and then to kill it Before it destroyed the people and then you move on to go back to preaching the gospel I'm gonna prove my point here On this screen here by saying that these were the people that I did go after All right. It's a long list. I had my staff to Pull up a list of people that I put on the chopping block. Okay. It's a long list I did shows on all these people and I had to be careful when I did bring up these people our names and how I unpacked some of the Weird things that they might have said over the microphone. I had to be careful because these people have souls But these people also it doesn't matter who people are if you're doing things that is Poisoning the people then you must be a rebuke But the scripture says that you must consider yourself lest you also be tempted. So I had to also be extremely Transparent when I went after some of these people who may have now say go would I don't know why his name is He's on there. I'm gonna talk about sickle in a minute. All right My staff put that the name the names up there of people who are highlighted So that doesn't mean that I talked negative about these some couple of these people So I just saw that I just saw sickle name up there All right. So all these things and sickle was on my show So let I must I'm explain why I'm bringing up sickles name All right, because it's very important to this this this my point here All these people who I went after the Lord told me they have families Y'all like duh. Well, sometimes we do things and don't realize the duh all these people who I went after Have families all of them do and There was a man by the name of Jonathan Bernard who went after me October 15 2016 he went after me heavy every day. He was going after me I mean he attacked and he attacked and he attacked and I was like what is going on Why is this man attacking me the way he is? If you go on Facebook, you'll see That he and his friend attacked me when heavy after me Told y'all niggas, but this ain't but a pain in the heart. All right.  All right, and I'm coming real Walter Jones.  Actually borrowed that from Gaddafi, but nevertheless nevertheless, I understand what he means You need to get out of places where you ain't got no business Okay, it goes on and on and I'm sorry if the kids were there on here watching right now I Forgot he had used some some terminology that you may not like But this man went after me heavies name is Terry house who was a friend of John Jonathan Bernard My mother was alive at the time when these men were attacking me Jonathan didn't found he called he found he called around Chicago because he doesn't live here and He found he got my number through sources and he would call my phone in the mornings and try to terrorize me threatening my life right My mother was alive at the time my mother died in 2019 And my mother called Disturbed my mother was battling cancer. I didn't know that she was gonna be dead in just maybe two years after that My mother was was I was making my mother sicker because she was afraid she was nervous for me and My family my brothers was calling and said Walter you gotta stop this you gotta settle you gotta shut this down I was getting ready to go after this man hard I was getting ready to go and get in my car and travel to the south to go and have a meeting with Jonathan and My mother said don't do it Leave him alone That's not what God called you to do So I didn't and I repented to my mom Families are affected when we become heresy chasers and We we don't know how to be transparent as we're trying to rebuke the heretic teachers You understand so we have to really be careful. So let me talk about brother Seiko Seiko Woods is my friend. I Love him as much as I love Corey and The both of them don't always do things that I like No, and I don't panic to none of them. I've talked to I was introduced to Seiko When the John MacArthur situation came up. I didn't know anything about what John MacArthur did Seiko reached out to me and he says did you know about John and I know and I started watching his show I started getting more information about John MacArthur and then I start watching other people's Explanation of John MacArthur and then I said John MacArthur needs to repent. I don't like what he did I'm hoping he made it right with this woman Why did this happen on and on and then I asked Seiko to come on the show Seiko Woods came on my show and I gave him a round of Questions on not John MacArthur. I gave him around the questions on the Bible hermeneutics Theology and he answered them. There was about 15 questions. I just threw at him threw at him threw at him I didn't agree with some of the questions that the answer that he gave what 90% of them I did agree with it because again, we're transparent and we don't we don't panic to somebody because you know they are friends and then he began to talk about the Marcus Rogers issue and Seiko was going after Marcus Rogers heavy. Well, I agreed with calling him a heretic Marcus Rogers still to this day. I think Marcus Rogers is a heretic You all have to go to the show is there on my channel and then what Marcus Rogers did I'm sorry what Seiko did was bring up the interview with Alan Parr and Marcus Rogers and says He kept saying that Marcus was a heretic. I agree But then he said that Alan Parr was wrong and that he's not our brother That's where I stopped Seiko and I disagreed with him again go to the show. I said Alan Parr Is not just my friend. I still consider him a brother But I also said in full disclosure that I disagreed with how Alan Parr handled Marcus Rogers He should have went a little harder. He should not have accepted whatever Marcus said and then close it down He was he was he was weak Alan Parr on that particular show But I considered him a brother as I was ending the show with with Seiko Woods. I Support financially Alan Parr I'm a part of his Bible studies his monthly Bible studies. I Purchased his products. I bought his book the other day I plan to have him on the show to talk about his book What why am I saying this is because we have to be fair in balance with our friends when we disagree with them We tell them I disagree with you and then and then you pray with them Or you agree with them Seiko is now Doing things that is Not the style of my show. I just I wouldn't spend that much time on one guy. I just wouldn't all right So I'm I talked to Seiko He and I text he and I pick up the phone. We talk. All right. We're different What I've been seeing lately is that he's been talking about Corey now when I go back in time I started to I remembered the earlier days of Seiko and Corey Coming together to go against the teachings of Marcus Rogers And I'm like, okay. This is a dynamic duel and Then I saw a video where a bunch of brothers were on there as an intervention To talk to Seiko Woods. I said, but this is this is good. All right Brothers are not always agreeing with each other. Okay, and then I saw a video of Corey and Seiko together talking about The our Caucasian brother and then Something changed something switched and before you know it I saw Seiko unpacking Corey's Records his history and I said, wow, what happened? So I began to watch and watch and I says, oh There's fighting going on here and I don't understand. I just don't understand and the more I watched the more I Was I was hearing his story The reason why he was going after Corey is because of MacArthur and it's and it sounded like something that Corey said about his daughter, I think Corey was asking and I'm gonna bring Corey on. You know, I know you're waiting. I'm gonna bring him on prom I promise you Corey was asked something about his daughter Corey's daughter his answer Triggered Seiko, I think that's what it started and then before you know it Here we are today So I decided and I agree Full disclosure Seiko reached out to me and says Can you moderate between me and Corey so that we can talk about this squash? I said That might be a good idea. Let me find out. I reached out to Corey. I said he wants to do this Do do we do this? Corey said no, but he also said Not now he says I'm not ready these these were Corey's words. I can't lie to you all I shall not tell a lie not now. I Went back to Seiko actually Seiko hit me up before I can respond. What did he say and I said he says he's not interested Seiko went live and he read our text Okay, he's not he's not ready. I Agreed with Corey. I don't I didn't want that to be a fight Number two, I did want it to be one-sided. So I said I agree I don't want to do an interview and you're uncomfortable. So I decided not to do it. All right, so here we are today I Want to interview Corey because my audience might be a little confused on his story He has told his story over and over again on his channel with his community. I Want my two friends to come to an agreement somehow and I want to find out from the horse's mouth What's really going on with the what the many questions that I have and then he may have some slides and some things that he Want to to talk to you all about and then we're gonna we're gonna pray and shut this down And this will be our masterclass on his story. And so anybody else in the comment section who comes later on I want to know what's going on You go to this show here and you can hear this man tell his full story Brother Corey minor took up a lot of your time. Okay. How you doing, brother? I'm fine I was actually doing doing some stuff while you're doing it. So it actually oh good. I helped you out I helped you out. That's and that's what I do. I like to help my friends out And now we are simulcast on both shows you all you we are on the show off the Jones show and we on the Smart Christian channel as well and before I go into the lightning rod of questions I'd like for you to Respond to my opening. Are there some things in there that is inaccurate so that you can help fix it I wouldn't say really inaccurate. There's a few things I mean, I'm not you don't have to get the the entire truth the exact truth But I think I guess some people want the exact truth or all the details and so For as far as I'm concerned as far as I know Well, one you mentioned about about a daughter someone asked a question In a video that I did what I have a problem with letting my daughter go to If Eileen Greg was my daughter would I let her what would I let her go or would I go? It's like that and the person that was interestingly enough that we had a conversation about finally talked to me and The way that he felt then after talking to me Is not the way that he feels now And that's kind of my thing if you got them if you got an issue You can call me or you can text me you can email me now Obviously, you guys know that if you if you email me It's gonna be a minute if you text me It'll be a little bit faster if you call me then I'll definitely you know if I don't answer I'll call back And so my thing is if I see that you're not interested in having a conversation Where and you want to know the truth and want to wait on me? But you go then if I take a day or two days or three days and then you go Having a conversation with others well then as far as I'm concerned I might be right or wrong But as far as I'm concerned Then there's no conversation be had because it looks like that the person might be more interested in drama and so forth And so that was the same that I made with the person And I explain why I feel this way about the whole John McCarthy issue It let me just say this and I won't get into it tonight, but as far as I'm concerned and Honestly, it's not over John McArthur. This is this is not over John McArthur But it's being put that way and I don't have a problem with that if if even from wrong and if it is over John McArthur Because the question is have I have I changed? Have I switched up? Have I flip-flop and and the answer is no I have not I absolutely have not I May do I might do it now I might do it later just to show a little video montage of The very first video. I'm sorry the second video after the first time that it came out After the first time and I said off with his head. He's got to go I'm calling for people to in a particular community to go ahead and ask for this minute step down And then you know what I did I decided you know what I don't know the full story So let me pull back. Let me pull back and not say off with his head Let me wait until I get more information now has more information come in sure But it's been one side of the information their side McArthur side the grace me church not a lot of information is coming out What do I go ahead and make a decision because they're not making any because they're not Giving off any information. Well, no Why because I don't have a timetable in which I've got a right to report to make an assessment Now if someone wants to make a judgment call about John McArthur Fine, go ahead. If you think he's the worst thing ever. I don't listen. I don't have a problem with that I don't have a problem with you not liking John McArthur. I don't have a problem with you loving John McArthur What I do have a problem with is if you don't if you have a problem with me not feeling the same way that you feel I have decided that I don't have enough information that makes me comfortable enough to say that Now is it possible that hey Corey? He really is that bad? Okay, fine God is not gonna hold me accountable for not judging the man on on things that I'm not sure up I may never get the information. That's fine. I'm okay with that and if you make a judgment call about him and You're right with an amen if you're wrong That becomes the problem and so I leave that up to you and God and McArthur I can't get into it. So as a matter of fact, let me let me let me do this I do want to play this. This is about one minute long Let me go ahead play this because what it's gonna show is one The very next week. Just look at the bottom. You'll see when this was The statement that I made then you'll see the next statement now, Corey Why are these videos private guys that watch my channel understand that I took about 300 or so videos off because I didn't like the audio quality the video quality and so forth And so I just took them off. This was long before any of these this this stuff even happened So Everyone will know that I am telling the truth at least on that and so the question is how much of the truth Am I telling am I am I lying about anything? I'm gonna I submit to you that that I'm not But let me just go ahead and play this so that you all can see that Everything that I've stated that I said in the last video about McArthur is the same as the first video This is what I would caution you to do.  That's it, right? Let's not get into picking sides. Let's just I'm on the side before I go back to it though guys I just just full disclosure. This is The video after I came on calling for John McArthur's head So just won't leave you heads up as much as possible And if you if you're on that side then we can rock together if not I gotta call you up But you did my brother still my sister love you to death So we're not condemning him, but we're saying hey man, that was wrong. That was just wrong buddy. That was just wrong That's all Okay He said Julie Roy's is gonna be on there with With her with her this weekend. Okay, cool. I will watch I will listen And I even told say go I said listen when you had the interview with Jake Jacob With Julie Roy's the first time I said I didn't I didn't find her all that credible to me came off like she had an axe to grind But I can't you know, I don't know her motives, but it's a no I don't know John McArthur's motives either But what's gonna happen is tomorrow in the days to come people are gonna say certain stuff Yeah, John McArthur, you know John now John McArthur is afforded some latitude some grace till we get all the information But some of the things we can say buddy you put her out Are there mechanisms now because guess what guess what can happen? Other people can also learn from this Okay, and so I'm not saying hey me listen, let's just toss John McArthur out.  That's not what I'm saying guys also, but I'm not also absolving him of anything either. Okay That's the only thing Yeah Is that right Ryan? Yeah when McCarthy's topic people get that's gotta be that woman Julie Roy She's she's bringing it up, right? She has to she's out here. She's she's got she's got a bullseye She's got a dartboard with John McArthur's face in the middle of on bullseye. She's got a vendetta against him She hasn't she has a desire. She's got an axe to grind and she wants to grind it in and in John McArthur's back Well, let's just let's just for the sake of this say it's true Let's say it's true. I'm not saying it's true. I'm not saying it's false again I've never spoke with with Julie Roy's I've seen a couple of the interviews and I did see this past weekend's interview When she was on on sake of woods broadcast. I know she also did one with with Ruslan I didn't find her to be Not credible now I did say that the time on the the lavish lifestyle of him or or the prosperous life I didn't I didn't see the issue there. I didn't I thought that that maybe she might have been searching for a story But she might have been right and so to tell her to get out to put her children out as well Yeah, you guys explain to do now. Is that something that that off with his head We got to cut his head off well two questions that I would love to know may never get the answer was to what and how much information John McArthur know Because the lady stated that that she never spoke with John McArthur now some folks are saying that's a good thing that that lets him off The hook no that doesn't let him off the hook that doesn't let him off the hook because he didn't speak with her That impunes him more you cannot put a person out of your you can't move a sheep out Without having spoken to the person. I have sat and racked my head racked my brain as to what's the proper take if John McArthur did not know about the abuse. Let's say he didn't let's say he's got a side of the story If he didn't know that's a problem That's a problem But if you did know about the abuse and you sent her out there you you wanted her to get rid to rescind the order of protection and Then you did First in 5519 do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses As for those who persist in sin rebuked them in the presence of all so that they may stand in fear Now I read both of those past for for a couple reasons one Am I or anyone else allowed to say anything about John McArthur? Well, sure we are sure we are I'm not I'm not rebuking I'm calling out of an issue here I'm not saying John McArthur off with your head I'm saying we got a sir. You got we got a serious problem to deal with and if you have done wrong According to this very same passage You ought to be you ought to be rebuked in the presence of all that mean that we're gonna kill you I mean that we're gonna, you know, get rid of your retirement stop your stipend No more royalties or anything from the John McArthur study Bible. No, that's what we're saying But we're just calling out and then you have to come back and say you know what I was wrong I did wrong now. Do I think the bat disqualifies it disqualifies him particularly as a pastor? No, I do not again while there's a high barrier a high standard for a pastor to reach The standard does not approach perfection and in someone like a Tony Evans's case or a John McArthur's case. These are men who've been pastoring for an awful long time They are going to say something and do something that is going to be wrong at some point in time That's just how it is again, and I don't want to go any any further But guys the point is this I have not changed I said what happened with with the lady Eileen great was wrong The church was wrong in that Eileen great God bless her what she went through She did what she was supposed to in the church Felder as far as impugning John McArthur's motives his heart That's where I have to stop until I see more. I may never see it enough.  Well, you don't know me number one number two You don't know you don't know what I deal with or who I deal with in terms of people. That's been sexually assaulted You have no idea, but you make these these accusations these aspersions like okay. Well, that's fine Because I'm not I'm not going to change what I'm thinking. It is biblical guys if I don't have enough information and Just because one person or one side brings a lot of information Does not mean that it's all of the information that person might be absolutely right Seiko's pursuit of of McArthur on this might be a hundred percent right. I have never knocked him for that Never I just said for me. I'm not making a I'm not going farther with it than he is Because for me, I have not made that assessment about his heart. That's it. And by the way, that is biblical So that's my that's my whole my whole stance and I said that the last video and Guys, did you notice? I said it in the first video. So has Corey minor change on that? No, he has not And I think the wrench that got in there is your daughter Help us out with that. What it was was that he asked the question was asked by by brother If your daughter was and I said what you don't do and I've said this over and over in other videos about other things And I use abortion as an example If I believe I have certain principles Then don't turn around and ask me to change my opinion because you throw an emotional argument as such as If it were your daughter. Well now that's different because well, I'm against abortion But my daughter was raping. So now what would I do? Well, that's an emotional argument So in this case, you know, by the way, I answer the question if my daughter I said listen, I would I would go am I joining Grace Community Church? No Because at present I don't have enough to say now what I would I would I leave them in charge of Counseling because I think they I think they might be a little bit weak on that they they need to maybe they have fixed it Maybe they have fixed whatever the problem was in the past because we're talking 20 years ago Maybe they fix it. I don't know. I'm not there And so I'm not going to now someone else wants to prosecute that they can but for me I'm not going to spend the rest of my days Going after it or hearing it and so forth and because I don't have the information you have or read it the way you do Well, amen. That's not a reason for me to be Ostracized and vilified and so forth.  That's fine. That's that's fine I'm strong enough to not let being called a coward bother me And if I see something wrong, but don't call a judgment call on it I'm fine with that also Okay, all right We do know psychologically that people If you ever watched the news Sometimes a politician is asked a question and he'll give an answer. Everybody's not going to accept the answer All right, so I push I pushed you on your daughter That's Depending on how a person feel about you. They may not have received the answer others may say, okay He settled it Really, we can go all night talking about it. And it's just we're just going around the mulberry bush. I think yeah What it was do I That I apparently don't feel like I have I've got skin in the game And then I don't think the same way about other people's children as I do mine and I use an analogy, which is true. I Said I think more about my child than you think about my child We think more about our own children than we do other children. That's a fact and anyone that says different You're fooling yourself or you or you're just lying because that's that's the case if someone if my daughter is hungry I'm gonna do everything I can to feed her If my daughter is hungry, you're not gonna do everything you can to feed her that I mean that you don't care and So when people have asked me what do you mean by that and I explain? Okay, and most folks understood that but folks some folks took that the wrong way fine You could have asked me you could you could have asked me rather than saying See Corey is uncaring. Okay But again the people that know me know better Sure, got you now. I'm gonna ask you a few questions here and Make your answer short if you can I That's that's true, I did will alone dinner You should not invited me to this show Yeah, dress me to I said I'm putting on a shirt and what do you do? I'm sorry, man. The bunkers are watching. I always got to make sure I see They little brother got the ball. Let's be representing. All right now Now Corey, you know, I don't always agree with you. You know that right? Yeah, I don't know why but I do know that I Do not always agree with you Theologically, I think you sound I will say that like how you explain the brother MacArthur Theologically, I think your sound believe it or not as much as you all talk about Seiko I believe Seiko is mostly theologically sound because I tested him on my show. Okay All right, again, I don't always agree with some of his theology and sparingly his politics I mean I agree with his politics, but I think that brother is is Theologically sound he did a piece on his family this white family that came together And I thought it was absolutely brilliant Extremely brilliant to the point where I went in his comment section and said man, this is what you need to be doing This is this right here is brilliant I Was I said that to give him a hint on this may be where you need to keep doing you need to keep doing and he Thank me. What have you so the same with you? With this next question Because you remember when Tommy Ingram did a show on you. Yeah I mean he did ten videos in a row. He did several videos on you Tommy Ingram y'all is his channel called the prophet speaks Okay, the prophet speak this one guy. He just talked him. All right And he did videos on you and I found it and I was like Lord have mercy So I had you on the show and we were talking about that video and who shows up Tommy Ingram Okay, you remember that show right I do I do all right and you and I Was you know, we were joking around having a great time But Tommy wasn't liking none of it, but we was telling the truth Biblically telling the truth. All right, and then Brother, I'm being honest. I Disagreed with your stands on You took debate you went on his show No You went on a show and I was like Corey don't do this don't and you went on the show and He overtook you because he got the mic and he got the phone Did he not he overtook you? He wouldn't let you speak. He mutated you all kind of stuff And and he from his audience point of view He looked like he was the the giant or the winner the king and then I think he hung up on you Young the phone up on you. I believe it was Yeah, I believe he hung up on you and I was like why did Corey do this? Why did he do this and it reminded me of what Seiko did when Marcus Rogers came on the show Do you remember Marcus Rogers came on sick Mark? Seiko was the only one at that time who could get Marcus Rogers on the show and how did he do it? He had two women who were accusing him of something and Marcus finally came on but Seiko hung up the phone and Marcus never returned. That's the only part of the show. I hate it that Seiko did he hung up the phone All right, because he he basically didn't want Marcus taking over the show.  So let me ask you this question. Mm-hmm. Why aren't you talking to Seiko? Um, well for a couple reasons one and here's the truth and I've told his people Seiko can call me any at any point in time. He wants to He can call me whenever he wants to not text me not tag me. You can call me You said well he said before in the past Not to make these accusations or these things without knowing what you don't know Even going through reading court documents and so forth. You don't know you have you other attorneys would say you have butchered it And so I have found my feeling is he is he has lied. He is and I when I say lie I don't I don't use that Intentionally, but but lied to know to say that I told him to stop making videos over MacArthur So I can get paid. Listen. I did 12 videos over MacArthur Seven of them were critiquing and the most the one that got the most was like 20,000 views That was about his health the rest of them 10,000 14,000 matter of fact the one that got the most views was the one where I was critiquing about slavery So I'm not in in MacArthur's pockets or the mob the so-called mob and so forth And I'm saying that because I'm only using this term mob because that's what he's referred to them as Or that Virgil Walker's paid me off or this and that what I hadn't even talked to Virgil Walker Once in my life and so these accusations But Seiko knows the reason why I told him not to do so is because Seiko wanted to do YouTube full-time And I said this is what you ought to do and I said I even said Seiko use your bombastic style Since you're always commenting on culture and politics and so forth use that from a Christian standpoint I think man do well. I think he's brilliant. Well I'm telling you. Yeah, so much. So I was helping you here get this computer Get this software do all of these different things and so I would say hey, what are you doing that? No, listen, you need to be putting out content Let folks know that you can walk your way through the Bible give them that let people know if you're not gonna do that Then let people know that they can come to you and ask biblical questions. Do those sort of things and So my point because he had already made a bunch of John McCarthy videos in the first place I said you're not going anywhere. That's not gonna help you. It's not gonna do anything for you But he feels like it's okay fine And so when I made what I said about John McCarthy took it as a slight against him I said, I just had nothing to do with you. I've made bits about McCarthy in the past before There's a thousand other people that talk about John. You're not and what happens sometimes you say something and people think you're talking about them I'm I had nothing to do with now Did I know that Seiko probably have a issue with it? Yeah But it had nothing to do with you He thought that I I made a video in response to his soul ties video that I made one to review kids But if you go watch my video on soul ties If you notice the background that I have right now and then go look at the background of that particular video It's the old video that video was made a year before Seiko made this video And so it wasn't but people get this feeling that you've got ulterior motives And I did not and so the reason why I'm not gonna talk to him for a couple reasons one The the the trust is gone The fact that you have been recording the fact that you have been twisting what I've said the fact that you didn't even want to come and ask me You could ask me you could ask me Biblically, you are required to come ask me if you know this person has an issue with you Before you give your offerings go and ask call me matter of fact This is about 30 seconds This this is what made me this is what really bothered me And and this is an absolute lie here You're not if you're not preaching the gospel reconciliation And then first of all being reconciled to your brother matter of fact does not Jesus himself say Matthew 5 if you know your brother Got an art with you. He puts reconciliation above worship worship. Exactly. Yeah, you know Let me display the practical application, you know for all for this Can we talk there it is That's it there it is it really it really becomes that simple there it is Channel, it's not a good look for us as believers, but this is what this is what it looks like Biblically when we confront someone who we believe biblically isn't sick, you know, yes We yes, and what about the people say well say go maybe should you know speak the brother Corey privately Maybe you should reach out to brother Corey since you know his number and his text and And talk to him that way and see if you can win your brother, you know, have you have you done that brother? Yeah, I've done that. I've done that Here's the thing he didn't do that. That's a lot. He never called me Of course, he's going back later and says he didn't have to call me And so that's for that for those reasons, but even more so as I said to him I don't have a problem with answering question I've never had a problem answering questions But what I will not do is host a circus and I made a statement I wasn't calling him a clown, but listen if that's how I want to be taken I do not be the circus for a clown if someone is just dead set on having a Crazy show Something just wild and no, I'm not gonna do that. Why would I do that? Especially if you really have a concern for me This is where I think that the disingenuous part comes in if you really have a concern if you make a video I cord might not have got questions Then do like because you're a man and when he went when dreah saying it then call me you could you could have called me We didn't have to go through all this what have you or if you want to know more about my about my case Which by the way Seiko knew every single detail about my case in the past called me pastor called me preacher Even knowing that all those things because we talked about it ask him to release the other recordings And so at some point, you know what now I don't now I don't trust you the reason why he came back out after making a promise to shut his channel down if someone can show Where he was wrong? Well, I talked to Tarwin and told him and told him a few other things And so he comes back with the Cory minor apology only to lambast me even more so and so At this point in time. Why why would I do so that it would it would do no good now If someone wants to ask me and the moderators people watch can tell you I've always let it open if you want to ask me a question Ask me people have emailed me. I've gotten back People can do all of those they can ask me someone saying Cory You're lying name the person that asked me a question and waited for my response. You can't you can't I Don't mean put it send an email send a text not a text but an email and then in a day Or in two or in two days Then go to say go or go to someone else That's not you wanting to get an answer And if I take a week to get back with you well dog on I'm gonna take a week to get back with you I've got things that I've got to this more pressing and so if you want to have so if you want to ask a question If you want to feel free All the people that and I don't understand there They're gonna be some folks that Cory you're lying you this and that or whatever will ask your question tonight Ask your question because you could have been coming. I'm not I haven't blocked you as a matter of fact I can see you on my screen that tells me I know you're on the other person's channel But I can see you on my stream, which tells me you're not blocked You can ask a question anybody can and I don't have a problem with that But if you're going to misrepresent me to the masses and you're going to when people say hey, I'm unsubscribing Or people are literally and here's here's the big problem though, brother Walter When you see people who are young in the faith Who are saying maybe we should go look up Cory's divorce records, which which I'm not divorced Maybe we should go look up. Maybe we should go talk to pastor his former pastor Maybe we should go do this now you're causing other people to go snoop and they go become busy buys do things Now we got a problem, which is the whole point of the main point of this That's the problem people don't even realize that they're that they are sinning and I say this to all of the people who have an issue with me.  He's made 43 44 45 videos in a span of three months Go back and look at your own comments I Brother Walter what I wrestled with was actually putting up the screenshots of what people were saying early on and Then also comparing them with screenshots that they say or comments they made when I myself Stated some of these things because he asked a question that how many you guys knew that Cory did this or did that He asked that question and a lot of folks said no and like well according to these screenshots your comments You did know But I'm not gonna do that because I just trust that they will go back and do it themselves But here's the here's the point and this is what this is and I said this to brother Walter. That's another folks If a person stabs another person or shoots another person We can listen to whatever the the excuses that are given and maybe it's true Maybe it was a maybe it was self-defense But when you stab somebody 35 or 45 times or shoot somebody 45 times, it's personal then That's when you know it's personal and so to say it. Hey Cory. I love you, but let me shoot you 45 times Let me make 45 videos and still you could have just picked up the phone So no, I'm not I'm not interested in having a conversation with him right now Now if he wants to anytime say go woods wants to call me He can call me Xerricks has called me now the other guys Dre and I think it's Scott Tarwin they haven't called me they said in the video they would but they didn't I call I call Tarwin And so my point is if you're gonna say what you are then do it call me I'll I call I called say go he recorded it and I made my statement so he could have called me at any point in time And so I cannot bring myself to trust that kind of behavior and to know what is going to happen I'm not getting ready to do that My question to you though because I feel sorry for the moderators, but we we ain't praying hard enough for the mother We ain't praying hard enough for them because man what they got to deal with with those comments that in there and I need you Mr.. Cory might have to focus on sir Walter Jones's face Yes, those those comments I will distract you Okay, all right number two my question to you was about the word ought as it pertains to your Interpretation because we know that the Apostles did not always agree you know you know that right they they were doing one work They're supposed to be teaching and preaching the same thing and Paul had to write a letter in first Corinthians to talk about the division of the Apostles Some are saying I'm I'm with sir Walter some was saying I'm with Corey some was saying I'm with Seiko But none of us was crucified All right, none of us were crucified for the world's sake none of us So there so it's expected to see what we see in the comment section But we also see I think who was that mark John mark You know they wanted they were going on their mission every journeys But there was a division between Paul Barnabas and them and one wants to lie I can't take him with me. They're disagree. We disagree, but they were disagreeing on logistical reasons not so much Theology reasons it looked like what we're doing on content creating is a weird with disagreeing on theology and many of the core beliefs of Descriptors with disagreeing on that then it turns into it is big brawl. So now we're divided my question to you is the word Art whose Responsibility is to go to the brother as it pertains to if you have an art Are you are you the one to get the art or Seiko got the art and who's supposed to go to well in your opinion? Initially in my opinion first of all we both had an art initially And the and so what did I do I called? He has not he has not reciprocated, but at least initially We both have that response. We both had a responsibility Going further. I it's not it's not it honestly. It's really not a lot not a deal with me In terms of him coming at me personally I could listen because let me just tell you guys this As time goes on more and more people might know my name and I'll get these sort of things all the time It's I promise you it It doesn't move me now when my wife gets bothered and she did get bothered She did get bothered because now you're going into person stuff and you're mentioning names and things like that putting people's names On the camera on video. That's a problem for her other people people's families who are related to the pastor That's a problem by the way Let me just say this full disclosure his daughter watches his son is a it's still a it's still a friend And so people think that that I've thrown it. I've thrown the pastor underneath the bus now I've got it. I've got a bit of an issue, but the issue is not so much towards him It's towards towards with the body But at certain at a certain point in time You say you warned the person that you feel like his device is recording up all once or twice and then leave Now if it gets to where hey the person that device and the person wants to reconcile the person truly wants to reconcile and having it have a an understanding not calling Sir Walter Jones not calling Alton Johnson not calling Marlon not calling all these other people day Can we get a pow wow together? Can you moderate and then oh by the way? Let's moderate on camera. No I'm not doing that, but if you want to come to some conclusion You know my phone number you can text me if I see you I promise you say go if I see your text I'll respond if I see your email if I see you tagging me. I'm not responding To me that is the adult thing to do. I would expect anybody to do that So it doesn't soak that that is genuine And so he has an art more against me remember he hadn't called me I called him and that was that so After that, I don't know what else I should do or even want to do and so I think I think I fulfilled my role as Especially as it relates to what Matthew says so I think I'm now you tell me if you if you disagree I think I look at things a little different than the than the common guy Paul rebuked Peter in his face Did he not you did he sure did in front of folks And then squashed it Me by this time I definitely would have picked up the phone and attempted to a call him If he did not want to answer my my call then that would have told me Then I need to leave this into the hands of the Lord, but you mean calling him or him Yeah, if yeah, yeah, if I were you because remember my intro I said the families are affected by this Mm-hmm my family was affected by these men that were going after me I had literally called the police on this man because He was he was trying to endanger me he I didn't really care I wasn't scared cuz I ain't scared of nobody, but I remembered my daughter lived with me And so I had to I called the FBI because he was threatening the president in the United States I mean was crazy. So I said, okay What do you think I should do I said first of all y'all got a case on your hand This guy is trading the president opening only live and they said, okay We're gonna look into it. They said but meanwhile call up your local police department and get a report So if he does show up at your door, they'll arrest him. I said, okay I'll do that for my daughter's sake, but I wanted him so bad to come to the door. So bad. All right So he's a question though.  It's gonna be recorded and it's gonna be material or content for the next video and What well you say could be I thought I can't say definitely, but I would think so That's why I'm safe So I'm a lawyer. I'll pray about it. I'll pray but you listen. You could be right. You could be right I'll pray about it though. But again see you guys don't understand this how hard this is for me I don't know once I make the decision I go once I make a decision. It's time to go.  Yeah, he called me names That's fine matter of fact.  Let's go it fine Give him give him some grace, but with you know, I don't like that I don't I don't like that at all and so absolutely That's my I do hate it. I'm with you I don't want a circus sure I'm with you on that Peter was a very hard and strange man and Jesus had to deal with this young man Okay, sickle might be your Peter. Okay in a sense Okay, because when Jesus died he came back and he showed himself to the women to the women He says now go tell my disciples and Peter. Why? Because he needed to get something to Peter because he wanted to change something in Peter Why that's why he asked him do you love me three times Peter response wasn't I a copy you he's his response was I Filet oh you you're my brother that you know and Jesus felt some kind of wave in that that aspect So I if I was you and I again, I'm not you Because I have more hair, but if I was you I Would make one last ditch attempt and pick up the phone say take a listen It's just you and I could you not record this call and if you do it, whatever Can I record this call? Listen, can you and I talk brother to brother? Let's let's let's Deal with this right now on the phone talk it out and let's squash it and then pray together And then there were done whatever he does after that you out of the picture now You did this you are done with it He can come forth and do whatever because again, I keep bringing up family your wife is uncomfortable. I know she is Is she not? She is Well one my wife my wife as much as I've been through she's been through a lot too and so she is How do I put this my wife is uncomfortable. She she also can get upset and angry Me I'm the kind of person that well first of all if she gets if she gets upset to the point that I've got to fix that then I'm gonna fix it and And I shouldn't say it like that, but that's my wife. It's my baby and So I am I am here to to defend her now She knows what what I've gone through and she knows if I'm repenting or not remembered She took me back. She's been here. She's been holding it down So so if there's ever anybody outside of God that has a claim to never want to see me again And so for it is her and so listen I put I put that woman up against now No, no no shame against anyone else's their wives so forth, but against anybody else's wife that that woman is Awesome, and so when she's bothered I'm bothered, but she's not really all that bother She's not all that bother. I promise you this I will pray about it And I don't mean just say praying just say, okay. I'm praying. I'm praying. You know, I really I'm gonna pray about it I'm gonna play about it and yeah and see I believe you well if I if I hear the thing sure sure Here's the thing the law will tell you not to do it, but we who are Believers of faith we do things different than the law what I mean by that if if a lawyer Yeah, if a lawyer was talking in there till you don't do it Don't reach out don't do it because the brother gonna collect receipts Then it's gonna go against you blah blah blah. You're gonna see that in the comment I haven't read the comments yet, but trust me you're gonna see it in the comments that can don't do it Don't do it. Don't do it.   You just come as a brother. Here's my heart Hey, brother, listen, let's fix this. All right. Let's pray first of all You need to start it off with prayer like we did on this show and then you need to end it with prayer If he doesn't accept that then you know that you did what you can and you wiped that and you moved on the scriptures It's being the scriptures actually is defending what I'm saying right now The people in the comment section are speaking from their heads, but the scripture is And I got more hair is just that I got it lowered down because I put on a du-rag Yeah, absolutely do not listen to the naysayers and this is why that man killed james because it pleased the people Now we got to shut down any comment section. All right. Let me ask you this next question Right here. Were you actually saving 1991? Let's get to the brass tax here in the I was without question Without question saved in 1991 My heart my passion and just the change that was in me from 91 on Um, everyone saw it mother saw it friend saw it So much so all I want to do was just share the gospel but then around Let's see 90 I'm trying to think 96 7 married Got kids and not making a lot of money. And so I'm trying to Do both I literally I actually had an opportunity to go to go to a regional football combine to to see if I could make it in the league And I love football all my life. That's what I want to do But I said no I'm doing ministry But even that desire to ministry when when it got tough and money was coming or money wasn't coming I said, you know what? Let me just do something where I can do ministry and start selling insurance and all those different stuff Or what have you and so I got into that. Well, maybe I can maybe I can Have a christian-based business. And so my focus got off being full-time ministry Then into that, but I was definitely my whole point my whole focus was Was god now not perfect, but but yeah, I was without question Okay, that's good. Good answers good straightforward answer was again These are some of the things that I heard on sequel show that I want I want to know for myself Um How could you commit those sins though? Were you living in sin? Um, how could I One of the things that I did when when I first got locked up when everything first can't start to happen How in the world were how did you end up here? um And I just I I recognized my own fallen as like I said before in in the different times that I've spoken I wasn't any good. I was now I was a believer. My faith was in christ I was trusting him for my salvation, which is guys. That's a prerequisite um And so what ended up happening? When I started the business and full disclosure some folks don't don't know this I don't I don't like saying it But I started the business Uh, what year was this? And named the business christ minor Why because I wouldn't have a christian based firm and it was going well It was going well. No problems. No improprieties. No nothing growing problem was um I wasn't taking care of home I wasn't taking care of home And I would get upset and this you know, you know It is as a man you feel like the woman ain't respected me and this and that and so forth whatever And she's just nagging. You got it. But I wasn't I wasn't a good enough husband I was I thought I was a good father though And she would say so but as far as a husband being attentive to her needs because as she and she'll tell you Corey needs to probably open up a little bit more emotionally now I can I get emotionally but let the motion out I'll move based on my emotion, but she needs to see it and so Um, she's coming at me and I got all this stuff with the church and ministry and I got this stuff at the office And so what did I do? What did I do? Um, I ended up having I ended up having an affair I had an affair um, and so What I'm what am I doing now and and and I was I it all about it bothered me um, but uh I stayed in this in this affair I can't I can't think about uh, how long and again It wasn't like all right listen today, and then we do it again today and today and they know what it wasn't one of those things Um, but what it what it affected was the business Other things were affecting also in the business. I had different people leaving for different reasons one guy his wife was um Uh, she couldn't be in texting where she needs to go someplace where she could she could breathe Uh, so I think they moved to Nevada or Arizona. I'm not sure another guy He started his own firm his own mortgage firm the insurance guy left and so Now on top of on on top of this I still have Uh, what's happening with the office? And so what I would do is I would just let me you know what I'm going to take money out of this account Put it over here to cover overhead As fees or commissions came in Put it back in Guess what it it worked No harm no foul So in a month or two or what have you do it again No harm no and and they gotta they gotta return on their money So in my my yeah, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong And by the way the reason why I explain this this way is because people when when they hear this they say well Wait, it's like don't banks do that don't insurance companies. Yes, they do but brokerage firms We can't do that. And so I'm not saying that there was a right that it was a wrong thing Absolute wrong thing to do. It was it was illegal But in my mind, I'm gonna make this work. I'm gonna fix this I've got all these employees and so forth And so none of the things that I that I'm rationalizing my in my mind are right But it's just what I'm thinking what I'm going through and so then I would do it again and I would do it again Because things just aren't getting better and truth be told I should never have been in this business I should never have been I should never been doing it. I should I If God is if God is against you and what you're doing then it ain't gonna work out plus Then you add sin to it. Well, then yeah, you're going down And so here comes a real bad course correction. And so What was happening was that now All of the people that are hearing This particular portion of the story because they're reading the transcript and so forth still don't know They still don't know they still think it's 64 victims or 50 victims and this and that or whatever There's still all these different things and but we'll I guess we'll get to that later, but I just I had lost sight of God and put more focus on me. I am going to fix this I'm going to do right by by I'm gonna make this company work Dog dog. I'm gonna make this company work. Um, and then God bless it And the problem was the real heat was on because of what I named the company and the fact that folks are respecting me and expecting me to do right and so I was just I was just just just a sheep off the reservation just messed up just messed up And What did God do? He he didn't knock me down He kicked me down stepped on me and just ran ran over me because it was what I needed We'll get into The aspects of the case Because I explained the aspects of the case as to why I got more people do not under They they can read what they think they're reading the transcript They think they don't understand and they don't understand the law they really don't Because I've heard people say certain things like that is not what what but I um I was living um Kind of a dual lifestyle Here I am I I my heart is burdened my heart. I'm literally and I'm I'm not I'm not saying figuratively. I'm literally crying when I do these things but Could be pride could be just me just being stubborn. I'm not gonna let none of this but no I'm I'm gonna keep going I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna fix this because that's my that's my style I'm gonna fix this uh and god you gonna help me fix this and so um How I knew I was saved even at that time is um the burning the uh the pain if you can see him and There's nothing to it or you can kind of shrug it up. I wasn't shrugging it off But it's at a certain point. Okay I've got to fix this because if I don't fix this now i'm in trouble Are you with me? So if I don't if I don't if I don't fix this so I took this money from this person's account uh covered this and If I don't fix this If I don't fix this Then I'm gonna I'm gonna be in trouble. I don't know to what extent I would be in trouble with I had no I had no idea what the law would say but Me telling myself I'm gonna fix this and that was the problem and the more I tried to fix it the worst things got So Do I think I was saved? I know I was saved as a matter of fact I think right now I'm living proof that I was For me to go through what I went through and even in prison and then what's happened since and for anyone who Didn't know to tell me that god wouldn't with okay. That's fine. Listen and you can have that you can have that opinion You can have that belief That's fine That's fine But I believe I was saved I know I am now I know the people that were with me at the time at my lowest to saw me That yeah, this guy was safe. This guy was um so yeah, and and one of the um Pre curses or some rules of the house is If you are watching them Story if you're watching an interview with a man who may have had a book that he wrote The interviewer would ask him all of the hard questions about his life Corey is volunteering information To me and to the rest of you are you all he's telling his life story like I've done on the My shoulder sir Walter John show with the bunkers He's telling his life story My job is Oprah Is to ask many of the hard questions And so that not so that we got him in a court of law so that we can then pass judgment on him No, he's telling a story so that his brothers and sisters now Know how to pray for him with him or celebrate him or do whatever we need to do It's his choice. He's not there's no gun against his his face To tell the story so but I I will continue here. You said You were Factually innocent and you may have to explain that to me I'm factually innocent. So are you are you not are you not taking responsibility by saying that? No, what happened was this and and When you when you get when you get locked up Uh, first of all, it it's a you you all cannot believe what's going through your head What's going through you when all of this happened because because this is a process They're not giving you time to adjust and so The first thing that you do everyone will tell you is you file a direct appeal In the direct appeal the purpose of the direct appeal is Maybe nothing is to buy you time because you let you only have 10 Days to file an appeal. The problem is you don't have any legal paperwork with you They're transferring you from one prison to the next prison from one, you know, so You can't it's it's almost literally impossible for you to do so So you file a direct appeal Or what you do is you file what's called an anders brief, which is kind of like a placeholder and the court is going to take They're not fast six seven eight nine ten months Maybe a year to get back with you in the in the middle of that time you're going to look and see do you have any recourse well during my A legal case I had no idea One anything about the charge and then two what the charge meant Um In order for it to be a federal crime A crime can be a crime, but it didn't mean that the federal government can get it can can have at you The federal government has to have something that's that's violent violated by or under the jurisdiction of of them Interstate commerce things like that And there's a reason why I tell this story Let me just tell the reason why I tell the story first so you guys can understand I'm not telling this story to to make excuses. I'm not telling this story to make light of it I'm telling you this story. So when you hear the the end of it, you're like, oh, okay I see God in it and I see what God is doing and how God was crushing me and trying to change me That's the whole point that so now let me go back In my case, I'm charged with mail fraud if you give someone If you give someone a fraudulent statement That in of itself is not a federal crime If you use an instrumentality of the federal government such as the us males or An interstate carrier a private or commercial interstate carrier Then it becomes a federal crime So I asked what what am I being charged mail for okay. Well, fine. My attorney said, yeah That's what you're being charged with that makes sense. And so my attorney who it was her very first case What she had been doing before was dealing with Juveniles in the in the city of Dallas. That's that that's her practice Just slander her I told I say it and this is funny. I heard that that I slandered her If you matter of fact, let me let me let me pull this up I want I want to pull this on on the screen. Let you guys hear this Because I was told that I'm bearing false witness Against her matter of fact. Can I can I let me just let me just play this Let me just play this part right right here. Okay According to Cory She was ineffective So that was the attorney That Cory, you know misrepresented the Cory board board false witness against now What what I've got right here guys. I want you all to see this is my transcript in the transcript She is well first of all, I'm asked a question By the federal government they asked have I ever seen my evidence? I said no Uh, and then he's asking miss buckner. Did you ever ask the government asked? Did you ever ask for access to my records? She says no She never asked for him And then notice what she says when asked Let me make this a little bit bigger So you guys can see The judge asked her he says have you ever have you asked for access to those my attorney says no He says why not she says because we've been discussing the amount off and on and throughout The whole process getting closer and closer. All right, now look what she says. I just did not feel I needed to Unnecessarily independently review those records Guess what the every attorney is supposed to do now? I'm not slandering her. I'm stating an actual fact every attorney by in every circuit in every district and by the supreme court An attorney is effective If she if she Volunt if she guides a voluntary and knowing plea the only way to do so is she has to first make an independent investigation She literally just stated she never had any. I mean she never had access to what she never asked for it now Because she is a this is her first federal case Find an attorney every term will tell you the federal rules of criminal procedure are different than at your local county court house You would not believe they sent back and go check the if someone wants to go look they can go look at the docket sheet where the court sent back Brief that she filed because she filed them incorrectly How you get in for how you get discovered and so forth. It's different now Not asking for my evidence in and of itself that may or may not be a big thing because the question is what Evidence would she have found but the fact is she literally just stated. No by the way it's a goes reading the stuff He literally reads over what the what the courts state that an independent I mean that attorney has to they have to make an independent investigation. In other words If if if i'm the if i'm the other defense attorney and the federal government says hey Your client is guilty Well, then what are you supposed to do? Well, since you say he's guilty. He's guilty. No, you're supposed to make an independent Determination look at the evidence how you do so is you do a motion for discovery? There was never a motion for discovery Never a motion for discovery Well, if you never get a motion for discovery, you never see what what the government has Well, what did the government have they they never had they never had any envelopes. They never had any statements We know that because of of our of our own But what she would have discovered She would have discovered that I Did not use The us postal service or ups or fedex what I used was instead was a local courier A local courier a guy that drives from one part of town to the other part of town I'm dead wrong for what I did dead wrong. No if ands buts about it Problem is it's not a federal violation Now someone might want to know well is is how do you know? Well, let's just give you this Let me put this on the screen so you guys can see So I want you guys to see because someone says courier. Hey, he didn't have affidavits to back up his point Well, let me just make this bigger so you guys can see this This is one affidavit from the people that actually delivered for us this ks courier company Uh, they delivered and he states that they did this and they do not go out of town So guess what if I'm delivering Now they're fraudulent statements without question, then it's not a federal violation Why is that important? Well, because When I am later on in prison And it's hard filing cases. It really is and so I filed something the incorrect way I could have come back and filed it the correct way And the court would have accepted it as new evidence received And then she was at some point in time was going to admit to not actually taking the um Not actually investigating But even if she didn't this because if you look at the date of that the date of that particular, um after david Is six years seven years after the fact so it qualifies as new evidence The reason why this is important guys The reason why this is important is not me sitting there trying to uh get get by or anything like that is because In I think it's 18 19 2019 uh The the court says nope, you're through We dismissed this case. I could have filed again and everyone is saying quarry filed again other attorneys There's there are a lot of attorneys in prison File again. This is how you file. I'll help you get you out of here This is because they cannot meet the standard So what do I do? I say no, I'm not going to do it I give up lord. I'm comfortable with not do I want to go home and see my family sure I do But two things one I've learned a lot I want to go home But I don't feel like dealing with it because what's going to end up happening is I mean this may take three four five more years And then I get some sort of relief a year before I go home. I'm not going to I don't I don't do that I don't want to do that lord. I'm comfortable now. I I was just uncomfortable with filing again but Why this is even more important because someone said well quarry. Why did you get so much time? Everybody and people said well quarry you could you quarry you you you're lucky you didn't get 50 counts or 64 counts In the fifth circuit in the fifth circuit guys and you can ask the person that was That that that sick was asking tarwin and he and I discussed this On the phone and I asked him before I talked to him. Could I record you? Because I didn't want to record him without his knowledge He said yes, and you guys would be interested in what he said on the recording The rules of procedure. This is why it's important because people say well, what's the difference between Working in a in a county court or a state court versus the federal court miles apart miles apart In this particular proceeding um You're supposed to get the benefit of a plea I can only be charged with one count I could not have been charged with 50 counts or 64 counts or 20 counts. I could I could have only been charged with one count okay guys So why still do you get this amount of time? Well one we'll talk about the pastor later but two um and most importantly I think god is not letting you go for nothing I think god has recognized quarry. There's a horrible condition in you You are so bad.  You're so messed up and with pride That the worst thing for me to have happened was to get out Or to not get much time or to get away with this That would have been the worst thing because you know what would have happened if I would have got away with this If I would have you know what would happen My pride would have swelled I would have had more confidence in me But when god does it Then who do I put the confidence and faith in I'm not giving glory to me.  I did rotten stuff and deserve to be there Why did I get 20 years because I deserve 20 years that you can't find somebody with a plea With the same number same dollar amount same number of of clients or victims With more than five or six years in the face. You couldn't find one But I got one and so I was sitting there in in prison praying lord Why in the world did I get that and so the the the obvious reason well, you know what course chorus you need to get that You need something heavy-handed to get you to straighten up and that's what that was And so when I tell this story, it's not to throw anybody underneath the bus. Was she ineffective? Without question Tarwin admitted it that she was ineffective tarwin admitted that she was supposed to go and investigate Every attorney is supposed to go investigate. She did not She was afraid of the fails, which is fine Because god is going to deal with me one way or the other he can take my life Or or he can show me some mercy So The fact of the matter is That's what happened. I'm not throwing her underneath the bus But the fact is she didn't investigate And what she would have found is that that what I did as a regular course of my business As a matter of fact, let me just put this up for for you guys to see This is the case law you guys can go and check it out. I Tarwin can go check it out. I see he's in the comments. He can go check it out Congress expanded these things to include FedEx UPS DHL Because they are instrumentals of interstate commerce when the when the usual business practice included the frequent use of a private Courier is not not I mean the interest in trust a courier of the methods of course of other methods of correspondence The inference that the united states males or interstate carriers were employed is cast in a series doubt And the last one the male fraud statute does not attempt to criminalize such Injurious intra state use of a private commercial carrier. And so that's the issue Legally when I when I say factually innocent doesn't mean that I'm innocent certainly morally innocent But in terms of if they charge you with murder, you've got to meet the statute requirements If they charge you with this you've got to meet the statute required Well, I didn't but so wait a second god. I'm crying out. I didn't meet those statute requirements. Why am I in prison? That's what caused me to focus on me Not to make some excuses because in prison you're not making you can't make excuses And is there a difference between me? Post prison versus pre-prison absolutely without without question. Have I changed without question? How do you know because you guys have seen people come in these chats? Who were there in my past the other day we had one of the people that were there at the church the u-students We've got the pastors family that's watching this channel that that that i've been told that I've thrown them under Underneath the bus we've got people from prison folks since then that are This guy core is different. And so If someone doesn't agree That's fine. You don't know me and you haven't even made the effort to get to know me call me up find out So you can say i'm making sure you can say all these different things. Well, praise god Praise god pray that what i'm saying is false because if you're saying it's not That it's that it is false. Well, then you are going to have to deal with god What i'm saying is the truth and guess what guys guess what guys The proof of this go back and watch the story about how I actually got out of prison Before anybody else got up my official designation Brother waltry is uh the cares act and there were some other things at it But I was put in before the cares act became law So you're gonna tell me that god doesn't work. Yeah, he does Yeah, he does and so all these folks who want to hear the truth. All you gotta do is ask Stop asking for the truth and you never ask me That's the part that bothers him you ask for the truth, but don't ask me Sure true and sometimes people don't know what to ask and how to ask Certain people know I have I have records here. I have I have a lot of your records here Um, I got them the right way. I went to the source And the state of texas And a lot of it is straightforward. A lot of it has been uh What is that a dacty redacted word? Redacted all right and like any other case But I also see here Some personal text messages that uh from I don't know if this is your pastor Yeah, two two things what guys what he what he's talking about is because the question is Corey you stole 2.8 million dollars. How what where's the money?  Where's the millions go? Where's this net? Okay? I won't get in that. But if you got a question email me text me That is if you actually want the truth But let me just show you how you can know that the people who lost money got money back Because all receipts aren't aren't good receipts, but these are so let's go ahead and just let me just put this on the screen For you guys so you all can see number one This is to the right of me There are some points that are redacted because I'm not going to show People's names I'm not going to show Excuse me. I'm not going to show the firm's name. Why because the firms When we entered into the settlement for the clients for them to get their money back This wasn't public. You can't go to the local courthouse. You can't what you can't do is dig this up So this is me I contacted or got a hold of some clients told them get their attorney to contact me Get their their attorneys. They contacted me. They came to the to the federal court I mean to the federal prison You can't come see me in federal prison unless I put you on my visitation list So they couldn't have seen me if they wanted to unless I but it's voluntary This is me kind of helping this this thing alone. And so here we've got this this is them Offering that they're going through the legalese in terms of getting the settlement. Did the settlement start? Well, here it is. This was filed state of texas. If you can look at the date 2008 When this when this uh began now, I've got this blurred out so you guys can't see the names of the people So you can't see You can't see the the firms involved If we go through it, we can see all these things all the parties involved I I they had to be redacted because we're not gonna where I'm not going to put these people's names out And so the end result is that not just this settlement but other settlements where people got their money back So when someone tells you he didn't get it. He's lying. Tell that person. Did he where to get it from? Ask me if you got that quit But this is this goes back to why I did not want to have the conversation Because in good faith, you don't seem to want to have the conversation because you much rather tell a lie or what you Remember he stated that if you make these things up without hearing, but what are you? He'll always go to that passage in proverbs.  Well, if you're going to keep saying what I said It's not the truth then prove it. Don't go ask some attorney that doesn't know this part of the law Don't go ask somebody else come ask me It's not that I would have given it to you If you would have called me, I would have given it to you I do not like this foolishness because I'm I'll be 51 in a in a month I don't know how old he is Brother Walter Jones is going on 70 but he looked good for a 70 year old And so I don't we don't need to do this We don't need to do this and what's happening is guys y'all y'all pardon y'all pardon the passion But I'm seeing young folks in the minister. I mean in in in the body Being captured being captivated by this because you folks that will sit and listen to a gossip story for five hours Or 40 something videos 40 if you think I'm talking about 40 if you think I'm making this up Guys here it is 40 plus videos all of these are showing all the videos that were made about me all of these 42 43 44 videos and people are sitting there eating it up You can't get people to watch 45 videos three hours long of the bible But tell some salacious about Corey minor. We're there Okay, do not think Do not think and I know for a fact Walter will back me up on this Do not think that if God's got to deal with me that he won't deal with you Because you're giving your setting the table. You are the person who who you are the the audience that this gossip is being served to And all of you every last one of you could have called me texted me You'd rather go on the chat to make make statements call me all kind of that's fine That's fine. The judge said 240 months when you say what you say you compare the two which bothers me the most yours doesn't You could have asked me for this stuff. You could have asked me for for the sentencing transcripts You and instead of causing folks to sin instead of in tarwan. He's still in the chat tarwan asked harwin Is it ethical for an attorney to use their pacer account to go and grab documents for someone to go to resort to Online harassment by the way by terms of youtube is it's harassing by the terms of the state of texas? It is it is harassment now. I don't care fine. Keep doing it Keep doing it. It hadn't hurt me. It hadn't bothered me at all I want you all to realize this channel has grown 30 faster in the three months that seiko has done what he's done So it hadn't bothered me. It hadn't hurt me. I'm fine My family's fine. You can call it. See it's public record, but you know, it's unethical. It's hard one for you to do that Every attorney would now you can't be fired for it. You're not going to go to jail for it But you use your account to help someone engage in harassment and the point is other people are doing it Other young folks. Hey, let's see if kory did get a divorce. Let's go. Let's let's let's go call up his The pastor's family. See if they know about this. Let's go call the attorney So he mentioned about the text message because I have slanted the term now all of you folks listen to this Have you ever heard me ever mentioned my former pastor's name in regard to this case? Never You know, his name is willy bolden because seiko told you that I'm trying to keep these folks what was going on a keep their keep their integrity keep their private lives private But if you think that there's something as bad and it's going on that his family doesn't like me or anything like that or whatever Well, let me just give you the text message from willy bolden who by the way his I've got his videos on my channel But let me just give you the text messages From him to my wife To give to me Here's the first said this is willy bolden. He's speaking to my wife. It's a text message He's been me. I won't read the whole thing. I'll let you go back and do a screenshot and read it yourself or whatever But he is saying he was he's apologizing For what happened in the courtroom what happened in the courtroom? Well in the courtroom my attorney did not put on any evidence or defense and that was fine I had it coming if they gave me 50 years.  I had it coming But the point is he came back and said after all of that I just heard that I got caught up and I said what I said and I never should have That's what he said and then you can see my my uh my response to the text messages that I have forgiven you Um, it's no problem and I'm taking responsibility. Oh by the way because If you notice I'm saying None of this would have been would have been taking place if it hadn't had been for me I put you in a position to even have to make that decision so All you got to do again guys and here's the sad part. Here's the sad part brother walter I'm sitting here giving these people to ask their questions or to say something and what and what's happening You're still hurling accusations. What about this? What about that? What color what what color was the girl's hair who you had an affair with? Where'd you where'd you have the affair at? How many victims? Well, Cory Why don't you tell us some 64 victims because it wasn't 64 victims Even in the transcript we find out that they did two things. They did a client survey They came back at first with nine then they since the survey out again and came back with 17 They never even made it 64. They started off with 200. Why did they stay at 64 and then ultimately go down to 50? Why? Because that's a threshold for enhancement And they weren't going to move off of that even though and here's the funny thing go back and watch the transcript if you want to There's one person in the transcript who says that he's a victim or he's counted as a victim But he says he's not a victim Y'all remember the story about the the so-called letter that I wrote on behalf of my friend and lied Yeah, there's a letter that was supposed to be written Walter about uh me saying me pretending to be this guy rodney And I'm making this up And the whole point was to get clients to to ask the judge for leniency Now the way it would have worked is that the client decided. Yeah, let's ask the judge for leniency But apparently I used without rodney knowing his name His address his email account his phone number So that if it worked they would call rodney or they would send him a letter to rodney But listen to the court and rodney who got scared He didn't know anything about it Okay What kind of plot is that for me to use this man's name is his his phone number and so forth And then don't tell him about it because in order for it to work They would have to get in contact with him Oh, by the way, do you know who you know another reason why the pastor also Wrote the letter Because he was in the court and could have told them that yeah rodney did come up with this idea There were two other witnesses in the back that would have said the same thing But if you guys would just ask me I could have I could have even produced those records but The 64 victims or 50 victims one of the victims or so-called victims was rodney's father The court said he was a victim But also stated that he wasn't a victim. Why did you use rodney's father's name? Why was rodney's father's name? He's not a victim You don't know this but but some of the folks on the psycho side know this Why would you use rodney's father as a victim? When he's clearly not a victim If he's clearly not a victim, why is he listed in the 50 victims? And I was only trying we were only trying to get one victim taken off because the threshold is I think it's 24 victims to 50 victims That's another enhancement So I'm not going to get rid of all the victims and I'm not trying to say there were no victims But the point is this is why I'm saying this stuff And so what happens is you take little parts little pieces and you make them out to be more than what they really are He lied about this he lied about that he lied about this he lied about that you can't find one lie But you guys sat and listened to it and you ate it up And you guys still aren't listening You guys still aren't and that's fine My prayer.  Why? Because if I'm not if I am saved then who deals with you Oh, by the way, this whole issue as to whether I'm qualified to be a pastor Well, if I'm not saved then all I do is get saved then I can be a pastor, right? So If you got a question just ask me that that's the whole point You don't have to act this way. You don't have to go at people this way Especially when you got my number as a matter of fact, I'm almost I'm almost I'm almost feeling like doing what you said brother. Walter. I'm almost feel like doing what you what you said I'm almost to that point and then pray it gets recorded. Oh, by the way, there's other phone calls that were recorded They weren't released Sure, absolutely. So my question is I know I know what God has done in my life Now I'm being said. I'm disqualified from a pastor at present. I'm not a pastor Secondly, you can't find a passage to say so Now if you do within fine fine, I don't you don't have it Well, but but here was here was the passage that that was brought up Brother Walter Proverbs That speaks about a man who commits affair has an affair with another another woman's another man's woman And then it says that his reproach should not be blotted out Okay But then if you drop down a little further read one or two more lines further It's clear That he's talking about the reproach will not be blotted out by the woman's husband That's true Not by God You mean to only serve a guy that will not blot out that sin. So now that's the unforgivable sin But because people in this uproar this frenzy Cory's the devil Cory's the worst Cory's Cory's bilking people for money There there are how many folks are in the chats 600 folks that are listening right now Have I ever asked anybody for a I've never asked for anything? I don't give a montage about Give me some money this I don't I don't ask You know why because I'm cautious people say Cory when you're gonna start selling merchandise when you're gonna start Taking channel memberships. I'm cautious about that if I started now What do you think walter you you know this youtube game? If I started asking for money Do you think I would get a lot of money sent in If you start asking for money, yeah, if I started asking for money Uh, yeah, but I depend on I think it depends on why you're asking for it Just please please support this channel if you like this channel, please support Please this please that uh, and if you want to support us financially I never asked anyone to support me financially Matter of fact, I wasn't even the one that even put this put the the the paypal thing on the account a mod already helped me do that So I'm not after money. I'm not bilking the people. I'm not scamming the people I could if I was as evil as people think I am And I'm saying maybe and maybe I am maybe I am here's the What do you think about this brother walter? If I'm as evil as as I've been made out to be What would be the right way to go about doing it if I got this character flaw this character flaw Now I don't have a problem with having a conversation with somebody going back and forth doctoring I don't go back and forth with folks over some something Internally about their heart. I don't attack marcus rogers or any of these people about their heart I I deal with them over doctrine and want to have a conversation if they want to that's fine But if you want to have a conversation with me If you want to have a conversation with me If you have all of these questions, and I see some of you guys asking 10 20 questions or sometimes I ain't making asking questions But making comments You can email me smart christen channel at gmail And I'll answer them There's been four people that have asked And I've answered two I didn't well no one I did not because she went and went somewhere else But the first guy I'll go ahead and mention his name brother david collins. We talked Ask david how he feels now about me It's a little bit different. Why because we talked I shared my feelings. I shared my point of view And he understood that What's the old saying we say in the streets conversation rules of nation in this case conversation save the nation Just sit and just have a conversation And if you come away with hey, I had a conversation with cori and that man is evil well then fine But you can't call me that not even haven't talked to me You saw someone make a video 40 something videos about me. What do you think those 40 something videos are about? You think those were out of out of concern. I love you bam bam bam bam bam 40 something times I love you stab before I love you But you won't call me If I loved you the same way you would swear to god, I don't like you Sure sure that's just my take but I'm I'm almost to the point though Um Of doing exactly what you said Okay, all right good Let me let me let me do this. Let me do this because this is a problem. You're not listening I literally just said I had a conversation with him and I gave him his response You know how I gave it to him. I literally just told you he we talked over the phone So what are you after You're not after you're after and that's the that's the problem that and brother wall that's part that bothers me Not for me. I can hear it. I can listen because I there's a young lady I'm gonna put her name out there. There's a young lady in the chat. She's saying she's conflicted Well, if you listen to five hours or 20 hours of this stuff That you would be I've painted this guy in the back. All you had to do was call me contact me. I talked to you That's the only You so disobedient. I'm sorry. I'm sorry That boy's so disobedient. I'm sorry calling you boy.  He's so disobedient I specifically told court is to get his behind out the comment section I told him do not not tell him Keep your eyes on me As I follow christ follow me court. I'm looking there at you. I'm looking there at you I'm looking right there. Yeah, he went in that comment section and went 30 minutes I couldn't get a word in Let me let me ask you a question walton and I never answered the five six question I was on a roll I'm sorry Let me ask you a question though.  I'm not eating dinner tonight. I'm about I'm about to go make a video on salvation. That's what I'm about to do Oh, hallelujah. Thank you Jesus and by the way I have determined That this channel is going to be primarily teaching go back and watch to look at the last 30 videos I did. Yes Ain't guaranteed not guaranteed to get 100,000 views every now and then when someone when wanting to buy an step out there and does something stupid Didn't find but it's just teaching teaching teaching teaching teaching teaching how you can know my heart Now y'all can tell me from right or wrong I judge my heart The same way I would judge seiko's heart The same way I would judge walton, uh, walton jones heart the same way I would judge marlin Heart the same way I would just alton's heart the same way. I would judge latinian's heart the same way I would just everyone's heart Out of the abundance of the heart The mouth speaks so what's come out your mouth what you do? That came from in here Now if you have a youtube channel You can see the person's heart. Can't you can't you all you got to do is go to their channel and see what they're talking about What are they talking about? And if you're talking about doc and talking about the bible with an amen I'd be dog on If i'm gonna spend the majority what i'm doing talking about somebody else who may or may not be safe I will warn somebody then move on Let's do a lightning round Let's do a lightning round and i'll be quick. I'll be quick. I need you to stick to to to your your promise. Okay All right, I need these I need these answered in one minute because I'm gonna do the catholic promise. How about that? No, they lie a lot And don't do the coaching promise I'm i'm serious. I'm sorry. Yeah, all right. I need you to answer me one minute because sir I asked you about food. I have not eaten you're not gonna eat. I have not you ain't gonna make me suffer I'm sorry All right. No, well, I will say brother core.  You know that, right? All right So we as content creators should always be Sitting with that understanding that as a man Uh, uh, what's the old adage? A man convinced of his will Is of the same will still yeah, he's still all right So this show was not to convince those Hays you also call haters that I can't stand it You preachers and all these haters sermons that you know preach something else There's 66 books in the bible. Can you preach something else other than haters? Okay So so for those of you who may not understand that concept They're not gonna like you no matter what you say So this show is not for those who don't don't like him It's for those who sometimes in politics you have those States called swing states Who may go one or the other this show is for the swing people not swingers Not swingers It's for the swing people who uh, they aren't they aren't they on the fence Okay, I don't understand the story help us out. I want to hear it from the horses mouth Now I get the whole story now. We know how to pray So let me let me ask you this question this question is here in one minute, please You claim that you uh, you don't think you owe anyone Of the former clients and why do you say that? Because of the settlements. It wasn't there there's been multiple settlements. Uh, and so It would be shocking it would be shocking And so what's gonna happen is and I haven't pushed because there was no need to push it But um, we'll we'll eventually in the next few months Go to the courts and ask the courts to start resolve this and start bringing this stuff in As as at present. I'm in good standing with the with the courts with the uh with with probation You know going through what I went through. I still have folks. I gotta I got I have to I have to deal with And so and oh by the way by guys grace um One less roadblock has been taken off and so I I won't go there because I got I got one minute But I I don't think I do because of all everyone as far as I know has gotten these settlements. So Got you. Okay. Uh, did you uh think that the way that the government Painted you was fair It wasn't fair, but that's their job the government that A usa which is assistant u.s. Attorney u.s. Attorney. They are net their their job is not to Meet out justice. They can't how do you measure that? So the way that they're measured their their effectiveness is by conviction and by um um sentence time as well as um finds or monies And so it would behoove them to get more convictions, which they think 97 percent It would behoove them to get more monies out and then Three for the amount of time So I expected that they're supposed to they they will paint you there There's never been a time where the where the prosecutor has ever said the guy that we want to go to jail. He's wonderful He he listen. He's the best thing. We probably shouldn't but we have to they you're not gonna have that They're gonna paint you as somebody bad. I get that and so I don't I don't I don't have any ill will towards them They did their job and again Who gave them the opportunity if I if I got hit over here with a sledgehammer I gave them the sledgehammer.  I was the I was the moron I was the simple person to do that and so I don't I don't blame anybody. I listen. I take this when I when I have young men. I'm sorry for this I'm sorry, bro.  Am I now? No, but was I then? Yeah So I own that I own that and so what they gave me I had a comment and true We told they were really an instrument of God against me. God used them to get good So they're right there that this right here should have been the whole show This last portion here. This last portion right here And this this is the contrite heart and the broken spirit that we saw in david was at 51 saw 51 All right.    They ain't got to see it That's for you, but for me And the proof positive is again that woman is literally across the hall Those former church members they're there the the the pastor's family Inmates who don't like you who see you And then more importantly god y'all want to tell me that god wasn't in me coming home early Okay, tell somebody else that I know I know and every time I'm in need every time I'm in need God has come through Because as I said before and let me say this again so I can irk somebody. This is me being mean Vendicate me. Oh lord Because the word literally means to judge me who wrote that david Am I saying I was innocent? No was david. No, nobody can make that statement because nobody's innocent Look who makes that statement in psalm 26 psalm 54 pay attention people don't listen someone steer you wrong God will judge you based on your heart now And so god try me and see That was my prayer try me and see The word for vindication is the Hebrew word for it to judge Judge me. Let me Lord, so let me show you that I'm walking right. Let me show you. I trust you lord Let me show you. I learned my lesson. Let now you ain't ready to go home yet, but lord Look god, it's been it's been a year now lord.  No, you ain't ready It's been five years, but lord. Look what I lord. No, you ain't ready Until I stopped asking him Lord, just try me help me through this day walk with me this day judge me on this day And then judge me the next day and then judge me the next day Because ain't nobody gotta go along with me and believe this god and I know how much I trust him and where I am now And I don't care if anyone ever believes as as long as he does. I promise you I'm good I promise you bigger channels have said worst things about me I'm fine And so have am I repentant without without question ask the people that see me ask the people that know me While the kings were supposed to be at war david stayed home And he looked up and saw the woman taking the bath And he had his way with her and tried to cover it up and he kept lying until he was caught and then he had to repent It's never too late to to repent And I'm glad to happen because again the song 51 is one of the greatest inspirations for me who stood before judge And I had to tell the judge I did that act and then I was so bold to tell him put me in jail so that um I can sit in jail and think about what I did I did give him an ultimatum though I said now judge you have every right to put me in jail or you can free me if I go to jail, which I deserve I'll serve god in jail.  I said the choice is yours judge And I've told the bunkers this on a couple occasions and the judge Laughed because he after he laughed. I thought I was going to jail But he says out of all the years I have been sitting on this bench. I've never heard a man tell me put me in jail He said based off of your your contrition I need to release you And he released me. I still I still had to pay Restitution I still got punished. I still had to check in he he he gave me he put me on a five year What you call it? Probation I still had to go through that he said but here's he said because of your heart If you if you if you just pay the restitution, you don't have to wait five years He said you just pay the restitution what you owe Call me and I will Ex this out of your record. I will hide it I will redact it or I will expunge it as if it never happened understand this is because a unjust judge Saw a righteous man And I and I I hold heart to this that when we do have Your story here is quite gripping your story reminds me of my story as well It was the story is really quite gripping you got receipts And you have people who are coming after you for the for the things that you said But man, I tell you the one thing that That can erase a lot of doubt is truth And so telling the truth really helps the people continue to follow you Yeah, you know, I couldn't I couldn't have I couldn't have said what you said Give me prison I wouldn't have said that But it would have been it would have been the right thing because I would have I know for a fact I would have gone out there and because I've hard hit I know I I'm not that bad. I'm not that bad when I first went to prison I'm not that bad. I'm not that bad. I yeah, man. I'm not that bad. And then yeah, I am I'll never forget this day never forget this day. I know I'm in the again the worst prison Y'all saw the address on that thing Beaumont Worst prison in the blp And I'm walking on the yard and they're just all kind of just You you wouldn't believe what you see And I'm just praying lord. Why am I here?  I knew okay god I'm gonna learn this lesson. I promise you gonna learn this lesson I wanted the lesson to be over with quicker. I did I did but Tougher lessons come from tougher heads, you know, I just this is what I was But if I could ever get my stubbornness on board with god That I'd be all right. And so it took me 13 years And when that person came and said listen get your bags you you going home Matter of fact, it wasn't like that. I asked the lady Because they had just started doing the stuff for the cares act and I asked I said well Would I qualify? She said yeah, that's why I put you in.  Praise god I am I'm here Praise god. I'm through talking Well, god told samu to go and look for king He went into that that man's house and he saw these men who look very handsome and tall Tall dark and handsome and he went to pray for this man to be king god says he ain't the one He went down all those suns Is that jesse's boys? He went all them all down them sons and then he was like is that it? They said there's one ruddy boy in the back Who's pushing lions and tigers and bears? He can't be king And god says don't look on the outward appearance man does but god looks on the heart For those of you who can see the spirit Of god on the man then take a hold of the spirit All right, you don't understand the man unless you understand the spirit of the man because you don't understand god This is scripture unless you understand the spirit of god This is why as many people are trying to worship god, but they cannot they can only praise them based off of the Things that they see him do but because they're not walking in spirit and truth They can't worship him because god is a spirit until we understand that aspect You to kori will always have darts thrown at you Always until the people can see the spirit of god and the heart of a man. All right, they'll always see They'll look at your track record on your show and i'm so glad that you have Turned this you're getting ready to turn your channel to where you're going to preach the gospel You're going to lose some subscribers Understand you're going to lose money People are not you're you're not going to get 10 15 100 000 views on videos anymore. You already know that you're not that You're not that crazy. Don't understand that So the lord has given those remnants that people who will listen others will not you got to continue to do it Now you got to lean on faith and not lean on all of these people who have been Holding you up and encouraging you all these people the ones who are going to encourage you are Many of them can be fake Like when you go out there and ask people to you repeat the sinner's prayer and they repeat the sinner's prayer and they go back to their voodoo Well, that's false conversions And the church is like like to brag we went out there and 300 people came to the lord Okay, let's go back six months later and and and see what they're doing Many of many of that is false conversions So many people are going to applaud you and praise you like they do on my show And then they turn around and they will stab me on the back on someone else's show All right, so thank you for allowing the lord to use you to Switch and go back to what we were ordained to do You got ordained you were called to preach the gospel and teach it sometimes You do have to put somebody on the chopping block like a prophet lovey or someone who might misstep Frodean slip spoke or something like that And you may have to use them as an example But you have to stick more in the word by saying listen Here's what he said Here's how we need to unpack this and then push him to the side Push him to the side All right, and then stay in the word so that you don't look like you're a heresy chaser All right, so I thank you again. Seco woods is my dear friend. I love him. Do you love Seco? I love him. I love him. Yeah Yeah, and you're able to pray for Seco, right? I sure am Because you love him Father god, we just thank you so much father for this time God, I pray that if there's things that I've done that I don't see Uh, if there's something I need to remove for me that I don't see or even willing lord god Would you send the right person but also prepare the right heart and me to receive it? I pray the same thing for everyone else as well, but god I don't have Any desire to see anyone hurt. I don't desire to see anyone torn down But I do desire to see you lift it up and the people that follow you lift up as well God, I pray even father for uh for seco God, I think I feel as though he's come at me uh in an unjust way But I could be wrong But god, I do pray lord god that you would touch him touch his family lord god father That you would do like I asked for me Bring us closer to you father god because whatever's going on in our lives The only person that can fix it is you so help us all to draw closer to you Even the people in the chats who whether they like me or dislike me whether they like brother walter or dislike him or anything God help us to be a family And help us at least one time lord god before we leave this earth to act like it God give us enough wisdom But more importantly lord got enough love that we can show it towards our fellow brother And if there's any sort of confusion and misunderstanding But we got to help us to go to that brother that sister and just ask and just speak with them Because how good it is for brothers and sisters to dwell together in unity So father have your way god. I thank you for this time. I pray that's been productive god We'll see I trust that it will be because of you in jesus name. Amen Amen. Thank you brother. You did exactly what jesus did. Um, I I know we talk about the lord's prayers With the disciples the lord's prayer is actually john chapter 17 When before jesus left the earth he prayed prayed for three. He prayed for his disciples He prayed for himself and he prayed for the world So you prayed you prayed those same types of prayers because you prayed for the people in the comment section Which is a representation of the world because we don't know who's in that comment section, right? No, we don't know we don't know that the world might be saved Through what we did tonight. So thank you for bringing me on the show brother. I really appreciate it Man, you're so welcome.