I like to have the chat there. But yeah, here we are, state of Fedora 2022. This is my traditional presentation. I guess the traditional Fedora project leader presentation. And here's this time's edition of it. And yeah, I started last year's with what a year. And yeah, I guess that's the summary this year again. But this time I'm gonna do a little bit different. Last time actually, usually I kind of focus on like here's our accomplishments this year. Here's the great things to be proud of. And there are lots of those and we should be proud of them. I'm going to focus a little more on the future and where I think we should go and how we should get there and how we're gonna work on coming up with that plan. So there's a little bit less of the congratulations. And also we've, one of the things we've done this last year and in COVID times in general, we've had virtual release parties. Release parties used to kind of be like the hatch meetups, local meetups where people got together to celebrate. Hey, we got this release out. We've made those into virtual events that celebrate what is in each release and kind of invite users and contributors to come together and talk about that. So I think that's where to see those kind of things. Now I definitely want to thank everybody who worked on Fedora and all of the changes we've done, all the things both in Fedora Linux technically and Fedora the project amazing stuff this year. But mostly we're gonna talk about the future but there will be part some charts and graphs of course. I can't resist that. I do also wanna say, yeah, we've been really recognized for what we're doing. Both is sort of the official tech press, the big brand commercial tech press has had some really nice reviews. And also on just sort of general chatter and social media and I went to YouTube and looked and I did this in an anonymous window. So hopefully it's not terribly biased by my personal search history for things. But yeah, it's just so many positive things coming up just kind of organically from, I've seen memes about Fedora that aren't the lame hat stuff from people that I don't know. It's like growing beyond just a smaller thing to really a lot of grassroots love for Fedora everywhere. It's really great to see. I put this stuff here. There's kind of a theme in it. I'm not here to compare to other distros. I think we mostly do the, we're really all on the same side of building this community project together of the district space. But it is kind of nice to see one of the particular vibes is that Fedora is kind of a desktop default these days and maybe beyond the desktop starting to be a thing that people look to for new users for everyone. This is district of choice now and it's nice to be in that place. And I'm glad people are seeing that. So that's great. And again, thank you and congratulations to everybody. Okay, so we do a contributor and user survey every year. And by every year, I mean, this is the second year but we're gonna keep doing it. We've got a baseline and we want to continue with that. There is a talk about this coming up. Alexandra is going to present some insights from her analysis of it. So I'm not gonna go super deep into this but I wanted to talk about two areas in particular. First of all, we did a satisfaction thing. This is what that is from last year. This is how satisfied are you with Fedora project overall? And last year we had about 800 respondents and it turned out that when I broke it down into people who said they contributed in some way to the project felt like a Fedora project contributor versus people who identify just as users. It was about half and half there. But the breakdown was basically the same. It's an average of 4.2, I think, for the satisfaction. So that's very good. That's a pretty amazing baseline. And this year we had about 20% more contributors which is really good, especially coming up to see a talking about contributor growth as a goal. So I think that reflects probably both more engaged contributors and maybe just a little more Fedora publicity overall. But also we had more than three times the number of user responses here. So that was also pretty nice to see. So that's like almost 2,000 respondents overall here. So that's very cool. And so here's what that looks like this year which yeah, I don't know, flip back and forth here. Barely easy to see the change there. Basically, still really good even with a much larger sample of people that we got really good response here. Very positive. And here I broke it down a little bit just to see the change. Basically for users, a lot of the people who had been kind of in the meh category before switched up to being more enthusiastic from three to four. And really great to see also a large chunk of people identified as Fedora contributors went all the way from four to five here. So this is a great direction to go in. Let's keep being awesome and keep making things move in the right direction. So that's really nice to see. Yeah, then I also went through all of the comments. There were something like 500 and something a large number of comments. I read them all. And mostly these were very positive. I was, it was nice, a nice experience. You know, there's a whole don't read the comments thing. I was happy to read the comments. They were mostly very lovely things that people had to say. And then last year when I looked through these, there actually came like some pretty big themes emerged. And this year it was a lot more all over the place. I mean, not in a bad way, but there were kind of individual comments that was a little harder to connect into big themes. There weren't really many things that when I grouped them together were more than like, you know, 2% of the respondents said one particular thing. So except as a whole, we actually had a lot of users reporting bugs, like a specific problem or saying they needed something, you wanted something different in an application, which that's fine. It's not really what we're looking for in the survey responses, but I think it also highlights that we maybe don't have a good enough place where people feel comfortable sharing that normally. And so, and maybe also some work on bug tracking is needed. That's probably a whole another topic. And I don't know, I don't actually have a talk on that this time, but that's an issue. There was quite a bit of love for our RPMOs tree based desktops. People really liked that. And then a lot of, you know, we like flat pack, flat hub, that easy access to applications in particular people were excited about. People like their desktop environments and like the one they like. Think overall, GNOME probably got the most compliments and as always the most people who feel like going out of the way to tell us that it's not their favorite, that's okay. We do have all these other options and that's an important part of the project. And there's gonna be more on that later as well. There was also quite a lot of, you know, a feedback that they wanted to make sure it would still work on older hardware and bringing that as an equity issue. That's really, that's important. And it is a challenge for Fedora as a project because we have this mission of moving fast, going, you know, exploring new things and it's hard to move fast and also make sure that we're working on a lot of older hardware. On the other hand, Fedora is also meant to be a toolkit to build things from. So I would love to see a Fedora based distribution that really kind of focuses on supporting older hardware and that those kind of use cases. If Fedora, either a downstream or a Fedora spin that kind of goes in that direction, I think there's a lot of demand for that. And then some things that were also themes in last years, better documentation, bus organizing the docs in a better way. There's a presentation on that later because this has been something, something we identified and are working on. And also that, you know, we have kind of scattered web properties that never felt like a landing page that ties everything together. Mo Duffy is gonna tell us a lot about how that is under the way and there's a web and apps team that's been working on this. So I think that's exciting. We hear your feedback on that and we know it. So that's gonna get better. There also is a lot of frustration about onboarding and about how, sorry, the ding happened in the poll came up. I'm very easily distracted. Onboarding and how sometimes when you show up to a group and there's no one there, it's very frustrating. This is also something we recognize and it's also gonna be a major theme. And we've got some talks about mentorship that are gonna be very relevant to this. So as you're reading the comments, always there's also some not so great things. I think this time identified some of them were just definitely spam, like actual commercial spam through those away.  So really people. I'm sure none of you that were deleted, but mostly it was very small compared to what we see somewhere on the internet. So just part of being on the internet, I guess, which is unfortunate. Last year, there was actually a pretty high percentage of people who wanted to say that we are going kind of the wrong direction with our diversity and inclusion and equity focus. And kind of a theme to those of keep politics out of Fedora, focus on technology. And I understand where the not wanting to be getting into a culture war fight and our project comes from. I, we don't wanna be doing that and we don't wanna make this about politics. But on the other hand, free software, open source software, like this is, it's inherently political because we're trying to change how society works and trying to make something that is about sharing and building things together. And that's a political endeavor. So there are some politics that are necessary. And I also wanna push back really hard. And if you wanna talk to me more about this, I'd be happy to talk to you in whatever venue you like about the idea that inclusion and that being welcoming to people is political. We talk about people and who they feel is their identity. We wanna make everybody feel welcome in the project. And it's a really important thing to us. It's one of the basic values is friends and making this be a good place for everybody is really important. And if you feel like it's not a good place in some way, yeah, talk to me, talk to Marie, talk to somebody in the Fedora Council, talk, let's talk about it and see what we can do to make that better. And I think part of this also, we've talked before, we have a code of conduct in Fedora. We have updated that recently and we work really hard on enforcement. And I'd also like to make sure we're working really hard on keeping community norms so that people feel comfortable and that people feel, if you see something, people feel like when there is behavior that isn't up to the standards we would like, that people talk to your friends about it, talk to people, don't necessarily make it always a code of conduct filing kind of thing. Let's work together to make this be a more welcoming and inclusive place. Because I think although we're working hard and I think we do a pretty good job, I think just kind of there's a long way to go in open source. I think technology is behind the world in general and open source as a area has a long way to go even compared to tech in general. And that kind of shows that there's something that's not right. And I think Fedora should be a leader in making that better. Okay, so moving on from that, the charts and graphs section. I said that we'd have charts and graphs. So here they are, we must have this. And also we must have some dinosaur pictures. This time I used AI called mid-journey to generate this and it came out kind of creepy. The point of the dinosaurs is really that we don't really do invasive surveillance on Fedora users or do a really careful respect of privacy as we try and do this. So the project of doing Fedora statistics is more like archeology and there's dinosaur bites from the data. So this one is generated by a different AI called Dolly too. And I think it kind of this one, this gets the point across without being quite so creepy. We're digging through this stuff and it's a little bit of an inexact science. So making things up and trying to figure out what we're seeing rather than really knowing what's going on. But still I think we can get some information from it. And also I thought Dolly did a pretty good job with this. Okay, so this is first, this is kind of back in time. So this is around the time of the first flock. That's like, I don't know, almost 10 years ago now. And I did a whole talk on this and I hope, I'm actually, I need to put a blog version of it online kind of about the history of Fedora released by release. But the basic thing is this was kind of a depressing time like we still had a tight community of people who really love Fedora and working together. But we're also seeing a lot of decline in use. There was a lot of fragmentation and people angry at each other, honestly. Things not really working together as a community because we didn't have a cohesive vision for where we were going to go. And people really didn't feel like they're being heard and respected. And yeah, it wasn't good times. And so we saw that as Fedora Fesco, engineering steering committee, the Fedora board, various other people who just cared. We worked on a thing called Fedora Next, which was an idea to make an intentional strategy for how we were going to make things better and grow in the next, at the time, five years. And so we worked on that strategy and got it officially approved by the board. I see Steven Gallagher in the chat here. Steven was really instrumental in this. And then, yeah, so it worked. I can see that over the next few releases there, that purple one there is Fedora 20, where we're kind of working on it. We had a whole release that we intentionally took a whole year rather than six months to do it. And that release turned out to be pretty popular. And then we saw growth from that, which has continued to that day. So yeah, this is good. We've, our strategy worked there, but I think five years is up, it's been more than that. And so it's time to work on the next one. So that's what I want to talk about for hopefully, I don't know, taking too long in this part, but the rest of the talk, you're coming up. But I do want to dig into a couple things also from the stats. So this is from our new CountMe system that does a little deeper analysis without still tracking individual systems. People, systems report in and they're tracked kind of as a cohort rather than individually. And so there's no system tracking, but we kind of see what's going on here. So here, this is just sort of by percentage from the different variants that we track here. And so actually there are a couple more that actually show up here above 1%. I think the rest, those are lumped into other here, but these are the main ones here. And you can see Fedora Workstation and Fedora Cloud are really the biggest things.  Ephemeral ones show up in the Count once and then don't really contribute to the growth in systems that are around for two weeks or up to the longer categories. So I can tell that those systems are either for short workloads, cloud burst kind of things or for CI or for testing or whatever. And so we can see the distinguish and the distinction there, that's the word. And I think the main thing really is just that Workstation and cloud switch. So obviously if you're looking at the short-lived systems, it's a lot more cloud and a lot less of the long running desktop kind of use. And I think also unspecified comes out a little bit. So unspecified is systems which don't identify as a particular spin. They're either, there might be some spins that still don't identify themselves, but I think they all do now. So it's systems that people have put together from a custom install or have been around for a long time and upgraded and have never gotten that set. That unspecified thing. I would like to see that smaller and smaller because I want to see what's going on more. But I think also that custom case is still always gonna be a thing. I don't know, maybe you'll try and figure out a way to make a distinction there in the future as well. I find it very fascinating. And I think it's a interesting way to see what's going on. Container images, someone asks there, actually container images report as container and they're actually broken out separately. I did not show them there. So there are containers. I think there are about 60,000 of them on average. They're a pretty big chunk. I completely took this out of that. They're out of that data set completely. So that's all done separately. It's not actually very interesting to look at it by itself because there's just a bunch of lines going up and down depending on usage that week. But yeah, that's actually separate out snappy and container. And I think toolbox currently identifies as container but it's going to be toolbox in the future soon. So I can kind of see what those things are there. And someone asks, sorry, actually if the downstream repos that might use Fedora would get caught up and unspecified. They might, but probably not. They would have to actually be using an Etsy Obus release that identifies as Fedora and hitting the Fedora updates mirrors. So they're at least calling themselves Fedora to get categories as in there. I should look and see what non-Fedora names are showing up. I haven't actually analyzed the data there. That's an interesting thing to do. But okay, let's not get me sidetracked on this. I can truly, there's a lot of deep dives I can do probably should make this a whole separate talk on grass because I kind of enjoy it. It's fun. Yeah, so I did also do desktop spins that are separate from I took out workstation just so we can kind of see here at the ones that are at the lower. They kind of shoved into the fringes of the chart if you just look at there and just going to see the popularity of these things here. And the one thing I want to call out here is that we do put a lot of work into some of our niche things like the CompNero which is computational neuroscience focused deliverable. It's down there at the bottom and there's some other things. Python lab, I mean, I'm an astronomy spin. I'm not sure which all of those are currently active that are not really even showing up in my stats. I think that means they're less, I filtered out things that are less than 1,000th of a percent at any given peak. So there might be there near the bottom but pretty low. And I think that's, yeah. Those things are also important. So it doesn't necessarily need to be a popularity contest. If you have your audience of a few people that love it and work on it and that's your thing, like that's cool. We want that to be available and we're still gonna provide support for those things. I think that's an important part of Fedora. We'd also like to see these things grow and I'm gonna talk also a little bit about how we can do things like the design suite and this kind of use case-focused things differently in a way that maybe gets them more exposure and use in a different way. But that's one of the future topics there as well. Yeah. One of the other ones that doesn't show up very much just kind of barely there is IoT. And this is the Internet of Things. This is actually one of our flagship editions. And I checked the reporting in is working properly on it but we are seeing very few actual systems there. And I think there are two things here. One is that there are some big deployments of this but they're actually using a completely custom thing and they're using their own mirrors. So it's not hitting and they may shut down the counting here. So there are some large use of this that isn't being counted for. But still I kind of want this to grow in small use cases because I think IoT is really important to the future of Fedora. I think when people come into computing these days it gives a hands-on hacker and accomplishment experience that is hard to get on a computer in the same way that I had growing up in the 80s and working on an Apple II where the software, the commercial games that one could buy were not really that much more sophisticated than something that I could make. They were, even for the next decade, there were games that were two-person team that was a big mainstream hit. Now I know there are still indie games that are like that and it's not all about games but a lot of software is just a huge production and when I've been trying, I've done some things where I've taught programming to children and in those cases, a lot of the frustration is they sit down and they want to make their version of Call of Duty. They want to make Fortnite and it's like, well, you can't, sorry, is kind of a bad way to start. So I think a lot of these small devices, microprocessor stuff playing with Arduino and the Adafruit stuff, that's very cool but also like little devices you can actually run Fedora on and have Fedora IoT make it do something cool. That's really important. So we need to build this up. There's a talk about IoT later today and there's something, another one about Home Assistant which is actually something I care about a lot, Home Automation later. So this is, if you're interested in this, help get involved. I have some ideas on what the problems are and I think a lot of it is hardware access and just like we don't ship on a Raspberry Pi out of the box. Maybe there's something we can do there to make it better. But yeah, this is something that needs help. And then another one that I noticed that needs some help. This is Fedora Cloud. Like I said, one of our most popular things, you can see that this is broken down by release. I can read that here. So F34 continues to be incredibly popular. And so this is, by the way, ephemeral systems. This particular slice is short-lived systems are being installed new and running. And so even though F34 is old it continues to be the most popular and we didn't have the same uptake of F35 and F36 is even worse, even though it's been up out for a while. So David Duncan says he personally is to blame for this. I don't think that's fair to himself but he would like help as honestly what it comes down to. And this is something I talked about a little before and I wanna emphasize again that we can't have Fedora groups that just depend on one person. As awesome as that one person is if we need to make sure we have depth. And so yeah, if this is something that's interesting to you please help out get involved so we can have a team working on this so that no one person can ever feel like they're failing in an area and then we have this going and growing. And this is obviously a pretty big growth potential area for Fedora Linux and Fedora Project as a whole. So let's, yeah, let's get this going. Okay, so that was the stats and here is the next five years part. I'm gonna take a drink of water here because I've been talking and I'm gonna lose my voice. I talked about this a little bit last year and kind of started on where we're going and I call it Fedora Next Next at that time and that is terrible. Someone helped me and come up with a better name for this because it's going to stick and it's bad, think of something clever for our upcoming strategy. But, and I also decided to use Mid Journey to illustrate these because I think Mid Journey is very good at making mystical, weird-looking things. It likes to make people staring into the distance. Each of these next slides is a thing generated I think from the headline here. So yeah, kicked this off and stayed at Fedora last year and then we've been working on some discussion.FedoraProject.org is the focus for where we're talking about this. I know a lot of people are very attached to mailing lists. This is another presentation I need to make. I would really like to see us move to discourse. This is actually a thing came up in some of the comments. A lot of people are in favor. Some people really like their mailing lists but there was kind of a please pick one because now things are getting more fragmented and honestly I would like to pick discourse. I think Python community recently made that decision. They're moving all of their mailing lists to discourse and it's a different way of looking at things but I think it has a lot of advantages and sorry, that's a whole sidetrack. The important thing is that's where we're doing this conversation. We've had some threads there and had some conversation but also for the next steps of that COVID has made this really hard. In the past, the Fedora Council has really worked on our strategy and direction by getting together in a room several times a year usually we have a council meeting that is just the council in one location and then we get together around DevCon usually in Brno in February and around Flock in August. So we have together high bandwidth talks. We really work and we've tried to do that virtually and it just isn't the same as getting people in the room and forcing them to do it. So this has been a little slower than I've liked. So Marie and Ben and I got together a couple of weeks ago and we took some of these ideas that were from the discussion and things we had and we kind of put together a skeleton for what we think, what we're kind of coming together on for this strategy. And so the next steps here we're gonna kind of work on what these ideas are the direction we're going. So if things I'm gonna talk about next if you think I'm missing something big come to the discussion and make sure that that gets included if you think something's the wrong direction this is where we're leaning now. So time to say something, here we go. And so here's the guiding idea. This is generated from the idea, the picture here but yeah, in five years I'm gonna have twice as many people who are working actively every week in Fedora. Right now I think that number is around 300 or so I'd like to see that be, you know 600, 700 something people who are really actively involved every week. And I think that's gonna be kind of the key tracking metric for this. I know we also want user growth and that's also gonna be important and you know number of systems going up in my charts very important, but I think the really big thing is we wanna see the project feel really healthy and vital and that's the headline thing. Someone says in the chat, this is my distracted here that email's still gonna work when the youngsters are old. I don't think it is, I think it's gonna break. It's falling apart right now. I'll talk to you offline about that though like emails on the way of use net, sorry. But sidetrack on my own personal passions about how to make things better. This is more of the overall picture and I did not make discourse be a headline item there even though I care about it. So yeah, how are we gonna take this guiding idea and make it into reality? So we came up with three big topics that are the goals, the overall goals is kind of the main area, the focus areas that we're going to work on here. Or actually I think it's that there's focus areas within these goals. So these are the main goals and they are accessibility for everybody, innovation and leadership in the distro space and also growing from three additions which was part of the Fedora Next strategy to being a multi-project in a big umbrella kind of way which is a vision I really have for Fedora that I want to see us make more true. I'll talk about the slides for each one I want to get to have myself here. So yeah, first of all accessibility for everyone. This is really important. I think there's, we've had a number of people who are blind or have other accessibility issues come to us and say, we're doing a terrible job. So yeah, we hear that, we can do better. So I think first off, practical accessibility that I like that Ally A11, it's a nice little mnemonic slash abbreviation for accessibility. The first thing is practical, improve our software. Our websites could be better. I think this is actually one of the areas where discourse is very good. The website is, you know, uses modern web standards and the accessibility tags there in a way that a lot of our other stuff doesn't. Also want to improve the content of our documentation to be more accessible and be more inclusive of people who are using software in different ways. And we want to improve the OS itself, make sure the installer, you know, works with a speech, text to speech and all of those different things. And then we also, it can't be just the software, the operating system itself. We need our own tooling for packaging, docs, design, all of these things to also be inclusive as well. So this is a big project to work on this. And one of the nice things, I think Red Hat's hired somebody to work on the desktop team for some of this stuff. So that's a step, but it's a thing that's gonna really require all of us to work on to make it really happen. And then we also want to, accessibility, it just isn't about, isn't just about that. And we want to make sure that we have Fedora Linux on the Fedora project available to everybody in the world. This is part of our Fedora vision overall that we are making a better world for everybody. Building open source software together as communities. We want to share that vision. And so there's some simple things like making it easier to get Fedora Linux more pre-installed system. I think that's kind of part of making it available for everyone that goes to the IoT things as well. We want to make sure that our help is better, that people are able to get the support they need and that it is friendly that when they get into IRC they don't get chewed up by having, not understanding the norms that the channel might have. We're gonna make it have a friendly experience there. Better documentation, again, continuing theme. And we also want to make sure that we are supporting people in Fedora communities around the world in sharing Fedora and spreading it in their local communities. Both local meetups, ambassadors, and Fedora, the localization, translations kind of work. We want to make sure that that is really getting the support that it needs. I think that we used to be better about that in the past and we have kind of fallen and I think we need to build that back up again. That came up as a thing. We also then want to have innovation and leadership in the distro space. And this one, I had to break into two slides here. It's pretty impressive to me that mid-journey kind of keeps a color, like the color theme consistent through these here. It doesn't actually always make things this color but it seemed to like it for my slides. But yeah, we want to focus on leadership in the community and how we run our project. And one of the really big themes there is mentorship. We have kind of the idea that everybody in Fedora should both be a mentor and have a mentor. And so we're working on doing that. Yona and Vipple and people worked on a mentor summit this last year, that was a huge success. We want to expand that. There's a whole number of reasons we want to do this. We want to help better onboarding. We want to help everybody who's already in the project grow both by helping others and being helped but also just being a mentor to other people is a great way to learn and grow yourself. We also want to make sure that we have continuity so that when you're showing what you do and sharing your knowledge that it makes sure that what you're doing will survive even when you win the billion dollar lottery and go to build your alpaca farm somewhere, like you can be assured that what you were working on is going to continue. And then kind of moving from sort of just a pride of I'm the person who does this to the pride of I'm part of the team, I've helped this team be successful in this part that I really care about in the project and making building up that kind of pride. And then of course also building connections from that non-technical or mind-share parts of the project, I don't want to define it as negative but as I've talked about a lot before in open source there's often an assumption that this is about coding, about engineering that that's the main thing people need to do in the project and while obviously engineering and code are crucial it's sort of the heart of the work in making a distro. You don't, I don't know, keep my body metaphors, heart may not be the right thing, it's part of it but maybe the heart is actually something else. Yeah, I need to think about that one before I'll leave the metaphor aside. The thing is in order for any project to be successful we need more than just that coding skill, we need all these different skills and we've been working on that but we also need to make sure that we're working on connections between the people who are doing that engineering and deep technical work and people who are working on other parts of the project so I think the mentorship goal is gonna help bring that together as well because it doesn't need to be just mentoring into a topic that you're working on in a technical way. We also need to work more on diversity and inclusion and positive community norms, I talked about that already I think that's still a big focus and I think Fedora has shown leadership in this. A lot of people, a lot of communities have code of conducts that are inspired by or based on Fedora's work in this area and we have got practical experience for doing this for a long time. We really wanted to believe that be excellent to one another was sufficient code of conduct and we've learned there's gotta be more and there's gotta be standardization around it and so leadership there is important and I think also leadership in it's not just about a code of conduct it's not about hard rules it's about how we all treat each other and that's important as well and another area which I don't know maybe I should expand it on as well we wanna do some things where we can kind of track and measure community health with actual numbers in a way that helps us show that we're doing what we want to do and helps us maybe tell our story to our sponsors and to other people that we are working on this and that we're making things happen. And of course we also want to do the technical leadership and actually I'm gonna talk about this the least but I think there's just a lot we can do in operating systems that will make it go beyond what we have today but still provide the value that distros have I think a lot of people who are like we don't need the distro it doesn't matter everything's the language stack like people are learning that lesson that probably a lot of us graybeards are like feeling a little bit I told you so when we see the things where the language stack falls apart when somebody upload something to the Python repository and pick on Python but wherever that people were depending on didn't realize that it was very easily just changed out from underneath them and I think as a distro we've tried to make a balance between kind of the developer and user needs as kind of a middle place where people work together and share things and I think like there's something really still deeply important about that space that can be bigger than what it is today and we need to work on those things. Notice I didn't say modularity once in this whole talk but I think this problem where what people want from an operating system where things everybody has a different idea about what parts should move fast and what should move slowly we haven't solved that yet and I think we've got some ways to work on that using what we already have to do that we need to work more on that as well. And then yeah this third area of growing beyond the three additions thing I think this is really kind of you saw my graphs that strategy worked it was a good approach and I think that because it worked we are able to kind of go to the next things and kind of focus on what we can do more and keep building on that success and add to it as well and I think kind of the big areas here are we want to really make it easy to make these spins and remixes and it should be really simple. If you have a good idea for like I want to have a desktop environment that works a different way people shouldn't feel like and then I'm going to build an entire distro and support GCC and G-Lib C and open SSH whatever so that you can make a disc like we've got a distro it's very good if you want to like showcase some idea Fedora should be a place that you can work on that so that's one thing and that might be something within the project I really like I said I like the big umbrella idea but also room for you know downstream's remixes we want to make sure that that's successful obviously Amazon Linux and then we've got to talk about this coming up as well decided that Fedora was a good place for exactly that so that's exciting and obviously also rel red enterprise Linux built from Fedora that's important it's going to continue to be important and rel is also going to be changing just because you know the needs of the market change and so the thing that you know is based on Fedora and causes red hat to give us lots of money frankly that's changing so we need to make sure that we're going to support that as that changes and grows and but then also a smaller projects like you know there's a gaming based spin that I've forgotten the name of right now I think that's a lot of interesting exploring stuff we want to encourage that it's cool and then the other thing I mentioned earlier like we have Fedora design suite, Python lab, robotics the computational neuroscience thing like those are right now collections of software that are grouped together as bootable media and it had a lot of the idea of like you want to set up a computer lab quickly here's a pre-configured computer lab set up and I think that's not such a big thing anymore I'm sure there's still that out there in some places but I think that's probably not a primary thing we should focus on but these are really successful groups that are doing great things and so we want to find a way to present that in a way that doesn't break that you know the team spirit of the groups working on these things and find ways that you can have collections of software curated collections of software around a theme in Fedora Linux that yeah bring teams together to build things that are necessarily bootable media so I think that's part of it as well but someone so yeah these are not Dolly generated these are generated by mid-journey AI Dolly tends towards being more cartoony things and actually it actually in some ways is smarter and so when I threw these subjects at Dolly to generate slides it came back with things that were basically trying to make slides which was pretty funny because it actually like put words and bullet points but the words were just nonsense letters but funny but not pretty illustrations so I want the pretty illustrations here and then yeah the next steps here where are we gonna go next with this? So I already said the discussion.FedoraProject.org is kind of the central place for this and this is an area where I have homework I'm going to start some threads that are kind of based on what I'm talking about here in each of these areas and the Fedora Council but also everybody should participate in this because in order for this to be successful it needs to be a ground up project we do not do top down dictation of strategy the Fedora Council's job is really to find where the community wants to go and enable us to be successful I think these are places we want to go and please help us build up this strategy together that's how this is going to work I think one of the things I was gonna talk about earlier but didn't emphasize enough so let me put this here we tried to decide things by consensus in Fedora because as a community working together to build a thing going in one direction and I mentioned that we felt like things are kind of fragmented and not cohesive and that was part of why things were frustrating having the project working towards a goal that we all have kind of identified and have had our input into makes it easier for us to accept when things don't always fit exactly what we choose so when we did Fedora next we listened to people and talked about different things but we made a decision Fedora Workstation is going to be GNOME based and a lot of people were unhappy with that but I'm glad to see that people who are unhappy with that although there was unhappiness have stuck around and I hope that's because we have people feel like we're listening and value what you're going, what you're working on and how you want to do it even if that's not the decision that we made and sometimes the decision will go in a different direction and I think that as a community when we know that we are all friends we're working for shared goals we can talk about what we want to do and make hard decisions that sometimes are pushing in a direction that isn't what everybody would want but the people for whom it is not the direction that they would choose can see okay, this is in the spirit of where I want to go and I can see that people are working with me and I think that's what we want to do in this strategy but we are going to have to make any strategy is what we are going to do and things we aren't going to do where we're going to focus so please participate, help that really be successful even if you feel like you are a dissenting voice we want that, we want all the voices and specifically, logic model, all of the things a logic model is a way of presenting a organizational structure and theory of change how we're going to make this happen I've talked about logic models a lot before I'm not going to repeat that here but I will repeat it in the future discussions that's going to be the framework we're going to put this into and then kind of build out some documents and things from there but the logic model is sort of the next focus of what we're going to do and then yeah, here we are, questions how much time did I leave here? Did I, any time left? All right, a little bit, right? I think we'll see, one minute okay, do the next sessions start right away I figured we have time to run into the break I can run into the break, 40 seconds, okay Q&A, we have one question in the Q&A how many users use Fedora for commercial and educational use? I don't have any way of really breaking it down into sectors of things I guess my, and because we don't do the deep tracking I kind of have to go off the number of systems that are installed and not all the systems are checking in and our new check-in system, the DNF company doesn't show older systems that are there but I think it's probably million-ish but probably not 10 million-ish and probably also not 100,000-ish so on the order of a million basically I would say I think that's how many there are I would be happily surprised if it's a much larger number but I don't think it's a much smaller number Yeah, have we ever considered adding some OS metrics that users have to opt out of? Yes, we are and I know this is a really difficult thing because our community values privacy and that's one of the important things that I think a lot of people use Linux because privacy is an important thing and having something that is community built rather than built by a corporation trying to extract money from you like yeah, our goals are different but yeah, having better deeper metrics is very important and I'm not sure if there's a talk on this here but there is work on something particularly the workstation team is working on this but I think we would like it across all of Fedora for some more detailed metrics about what hardware people are using how they're using it in some ways and privacy preserving ways as much as possible and what packages are popular that Debian has popcorn that you can opt into we don't have anything like that I think that would, yes, there's some work on that so I think that would be a good thing and I know it's hard to do but I think that's something that's important how is the GitLab migration going? So we do not currently have an official migration to GitLab we just have, excuse me some parts of the project that are starting to use GitLab for some things it's hard because GitLab is an open core project and as an open core project there's an open source part to it but in some ways it is not quite the same as being part of the sharing community where it belongs to everybody the open core kind of says there's an asymmetrical thing where this is mine and people are uncomfortable with that and I understand it there are parts of it that are proprietary and so when we talked about using that for this Git there was a lot of people were very uncomfortable with that so we need to figure out how to do that because there are some security issues with Pager and Pager is our Gitforge that is homegrown made by some awesome Fedora people but we just don't have the resources to really support it and it's hard to use in some particular ways that make it difficult and there are also some network effects we're losing out on because it is just not nearly as widely used we're gonna need to figure that out it's a big upcoming conversation that along with Bugzilla going away we need to figure that stuff out so yeah can problem reporting in Fedora be faster? Yes, I'm sure it could be that this is actually there are a couple of comments about this in the survey as well look this is kind of the improvements in the OS yeah badges, badges have been problematic yeah, Fedora badges I didn't actually put that in the strategy as a called out thing but it is something that is really important to us as community tooling the badges project shows but rewards people for participating in a fun way and kind of shows paths for where to go so I think improving badges is really, really important and that's something I've asked the CPE team the engineering team at Red Hat to figure out a way to focus on even though it is not something it is not like it's not package build tooling it is to me just as fundamental to Fedora success as you know, Koji the package building platform because it enables us to do what we do so we're working and figuring that out but it also can't be just CPE we kind of need other people in the community as part of this community growth is hoping that we can have people a bigger team around that that we'll be able to work on the software and on more badges more admin moderation, the badges stuff so that we can have that grow and see someone asked about sneak peeks in the Fedora 37 I'm not gonna do that here there's probably some other talks that maybe go into more of those kind of things but take a look at the changes the stuff is in the works right now there's a question about whether we are constrained by what rel wants for features or is the sky the limit the sky is the limit actually and actually that is there's a talk tomorrow about what Red Hat wants and part of it really is if Fedora were just doing what Red Hat thought was best Red Hat wouldn't get the actual advantage of having a community input into things because Red Hat's success really has never been when Red Hat has had great ideas Red Hat's success has been when there's great ideas out there and Red Hat figures out how to work with those, support them, integrate them she might talk about 35 Fedora releases in 30 minutes and kind of goes into that as a theme that's emerged over Fedora's history and in the relationship with rel so yeah I think it's really important like it's not limited by what our big sponsor wants it's particular things for rel but rel and Red Hat's success really requires all the experimentation and different ideas in order for that to even work so even just from a very pragmatic way rel wants us to do weird things it's good I think that's the questions there thank you very much everybody I'm really excited to be here at Nest wish it could be in person but this has continually been the best virtual event I've attended over this whole COVID times I think it will continue to be that way and it's not just because I'm biased because Fedora it's because all of you are so amazing and put so much into this and put so much love and passion and just everything into the project that it is humbling and wonderful to be a part of and I love you all this is such a great time to be together here and yeah enjoy the rest of the conference and I will see you around


Income tax 2022-2023. Special depreciation allowance tax software examples. Let's do some wealth preservation with some tax preparation. Here we are in our example form 1040 populated with Lesser tax software. You don't need tax software to follow along but it's a great tool to run scenarios with. You can also get access to the form 1040 related forms and schedules at the IRS website irs.gov, irs.gov, starting point here, single filer Mr. Anderson living in Beverly Hills 90210. No W-2 income because they have the business income down here line number eight. Let's take a look at the flow-throughs coming from the Schedule C. Profiter loss from business. Income statement format 120,000 minus the 20,000 gets us down to the 100,000 flows into the Schedule 1 which flows into the form 1040 line number eight. We have self-employment tax to deal with with flows from the Schedule C. Bottom line in essence net income flowing into the Schedule SE calculating the tax social security Medicare self-employment tax 14129 flows into Schedule 2 which flows into the form 1040 page number two self-employment tax. We also have half of that which is going to be deductible on page one of the 1040 we see here. Support accounting instruction by clicking the link below giving you a free month membership to all of the content on our website broken out by category further broken out by course. Each course then organized in a logical reasonable fashion making it much more easy to find what you need than can be done on a YouTube page. We also include added resources such as Excel practice problems, PDF files and more like QuickBooks backup files when applicable. So once again click the link below for a free month membership to our website and all the content on it. That's calculated by going to the Schedule C the net income then flowing into the Schedule SE self-employment tax self-employment tax calculated half of that in essence being the above the line deduction 7065 that flows into the Schedule 1 page number two which flows into the form 1040 as we see here. So we've got the 100,000 minus the 7065 gives us the 92 936 80 GI the 12,950 standard deduction minus the qualified business expense of the 15994 which we're letting the software calculate gives us to the 63 988 on the second page we got the federal tax being calculated at the 9692 income tax that is social security and Medicare self-employment tax 14129 total tax 23821 30,000 estimated tax payments to get to the bottom of 6179 we're focused here on the Schedule C however so let's move on over to it the Schedule C income statement we're looking at the depreciation in prior presentations how i would think of the depreciation is in essence first straight line depreciation as a conceptual format the concept being that if something is is large enough or something is a depreciable asset we would not be putting it on here as an expense but rather have to put it on the books as a depreciable asset which is understandable from an accounting concept theory basis then we'd use the tax code to do the depreciation the normal baseline depreciation usually is makers depreciation which is usually a form of double declining balance that we talked about in prior presentations but then we could layer these front line depreciation things 179 and special or bonus depreciation on top of it which are basically not in alignment with generally accepted accounting principles but used to basically stimulate the economy or to make politicians try to get you know in their job again or whatever whatever they're doing over there so you would think that the 179 and special are the things that might change most likely into the future as the economy overheats and then goes back down those are one of the tools that they kind of use to try to stay in equilibrium so we'll see what happens with them going forward and the underlying thing which was makers will stay much the same because that's the conceptual framework behind depreciable assets in the first place so now these two the 179 and the special are kind of connected in that they do similar kind of things the 179 you might have a little bit more flexibility that we talked about last time but they both give you this front loading depreciation so if you're small business you don't have a lot of like a high dollar amount of depreciable assets and they qualify for both 179 and special the net result will likely be a similar type of result where you would have said hey look I could have just appreciated it as machinery expense or whatever you would have called it but you made me put it on the books as an asset and then and then you allowed me to depreciate the whole thing in year one as if I could have just appreciated it in the first place with either 179 or the special so we talked about the 179 last time now let's look at the special depreciation now notice most software will kind of default at least the cert does here to assume that you're going to take the special depreciation if it looks like it's qualified property so for example if I say machinery and I say this is going to go to the form schedule c schedule c and the category I'm going to say is machinery and the cost let's just start with that 10 000 again and the method let's say it's going to be five years five year property to make the calculation easy to see I'm not going to put any 179 in there and I'm not going to elect out of the special depreciation which means that it will by default put the special depreciation in place generally if I put a date I have to put a date too so 01 01 oh let's just say let's say 01 23 whatever 22 and then pull it back on over so then the whole 10 000 got depreciated just like I would have just dispensed it right if I go to the depreciation for 2022 the schedule so get the full schedule there's the machinery it went on the books there's the 10 000 and it took the whole thing as the special depreciation so it took the whole thing as special depreciation and now my my basis going forward to zero I'm not going to have any depreciation going forward it's kind of as if I just expensed it in the first period that's kind of like the default of you know the software is going to generally take because I didn't assign any 179 and I didn't say that I'm electing out of the depreciation special depreciation so if I layered that a little bit if I added the 179 to it for example and said I took I took 179 of 1000 and then I go back on over here so now it's it's doing the 10 000 cost 179 was 1000 the 10 000 minus the 1000 is the 9 000 I still didn't elect out of the special depreciation so in essence it's still taken the full amount of the of the 10 000 but it's so the 179 is kind of before the special depreciation in the calculation process so now let's say I wanted to elect out of the special depreciation so let's say I bring this back down to nothing on the 179 and I say I want to elect out of the special depreciation so now so elect not to claim additional depreciation depreciation so I'm going to make that election and notice here's where the a little bit less flexibility we have we have to elect the class of property so it's going to be for all classes of property or to select basically a property class that we're making the election for a whole class of the property class so now if I say I'm not going to do the special then I'm going to go back on over here is that too so I didn't do the 179 or the special in this case and I elect I elected out of it so now we've got the the 10 000 it's just being depreciated at the normal makers depreciation so now we've got the 10 000 makers depreciation if I divide it by five years 2000 that would be straight line it's usually it's really double declining if I take that divided by 10 000 I get the 220 percent if I double that times two 40 percent that's the double declining rate times the 10 000 there's the 4 000 that I should get if it was a full year but it's a half year convention so I divide it by two and that's where I get you know the 2000 so it'll be the electing out of the special now let's remove the election and just look at that cap on the 179 just to look at that I'm going to say okay we're going to remove the election I'm going to bring my schedule see income up a lot let's bring it up to like five million so we don't have any income thresholds that are going to restrict us here and then let's go back to my depreciation and let's say that we had a piece of property that we're going to be putting on the books for let's say two million and let's say I try to take the whole two million the software is going to limit me here for the 179 deduction and then I didn't remove the special election so if I go back on over and say all right what's it going to do if I go to the to the depreciation schedules let's take a look at the regular one so now I've got the two million the 179 was capped as we saw before one million eighty thousand and then the special doesn't have that cap so it took up the rest of it at the nine hundred and twenty thousand so in other words if I and you can see that so you can see the cap at the 179 that's not being applied for the special if I basically remove the 179 say I'm not going to do the 179 just have the special then again the whole thing is being taken on the special at that at that time new depreciable basis going forward for two thousand and twenty three okay so now let's pretend that it's a listed property here so I'm going to say let's say like it's a car so I'm going to say now it's an automobile and let's say it's a hundred thousand dollar car I'm not going to put any no 179 but I'm going to say now it's going to be makers five year that's going to be have those auto limitations with it so now we might have a limitation so I'm going to go back on over and say that the cap was at the the 179 hold on it took the let me do that again let's go back on over to the appreciation here so now it capped it at at the nineteen thousand two hundred in other words if I brought this car up to two hundred thousand it's still at the the nineteen two because it was because the limitations for the auto limitations now if I if I don't take the special or if I remove the special and I have the auto limitations applied for example and I say I'm going to elect out of the special for whatever reason and I'm going to say okay let's do that boom now I'm limited for the auto at eleven thousand two hundred and then obviously whatever's left over is going to be depreciated in the future now there's other considerations with the auto that we talked about before is it a is it a work vehicles that subject to to the the auto limitations listed property is listed property subjects the limitations are you going to do a direct write-off method versus a percentage method and so on and so forth but you know you want to be taken into consideration the rules with related to special depreciation which could be limited for listed property and in automobiles for example so now let's take a look at a situation where we have a loss that was created by it by the property so I'm going to say now it's two hundred thousand and it's not subject to the auto limitations and we're going to take the we're going to take the special so now I've got the in the depreciation schedule the whole amount is here if I go to the form four five six two the depreciation we've got then the special depreciation allowance is at the 200 000 and then if I go to the form schedule c all the income is here hold on a second I need to change the income let's go back on over here and put my income back to 120 000 all right now I'm going to go back on over and say depreciation is still taking the full 200 if I go to the four five six two then the 200 is here in part two special depreciation and then if I go to the schedule one we've got the hundred thousand loss here and then if I go to the form 1040 we could see the hundred thousand being pulled over for the loss on the 1040 that's a little bit different than the than the what we saw if we had it on the 179 so in other words on the schedule c if I go to the schedule c the full 200 000 is being pulled in here and I get the full 100 000 there's now showing as a loss and that loss then is pulling over in essence to the form 1040 and possibly could be taken against something else now because I have a loss here I might have a carryover situation but if I had other income like w2 income for example and I said I had w2 income of 200 000 let's say 300 000 I already used 200 000 just to put a number in there 300 000 so I've got w2 income of 300 000 let's just just to put a number because then it's going to swallow up that loss right bringing it down to 200 and so on now if I if I if I let's take that off for now take that back off and say okay back on over now if I have that loss I might have a carryover kind of situation here let's now look at it if I had like we saw last time with the 179 let's say I took let's say I I make this 100 let's say let's say it's 200 and let's say I take the whole thing at 179 and then if I go to the depreciation schedules I still have this 200 000 here but if I go to form 4562 now there's the 200 000 in part one now but it limited it to the 100 uh the 100 000 and then I and then it gave me a carryover of the added 100 000 here so it treated it a little bit differently in the format that it's that it's being put in right so now so now if I go to basically the the form 1040 now I've got nothing that's that's showing up here I don't have like a loss situation but I still have like this carryover of a potential benefit that could be benefiting in the future for the loss so it's a similar kind of outcome but it's a little bit different in the way it's being applied if I put for example the w2 income I still might be able to get a benefit from the w2 income w2 income let's I said that was 300 000 so if I put the 300 000 then possibly the notice now it's it's is creating the loss from the 179 which is pulling into the schedule one there's the 100 000 loss pulling into the form uh the 1040 so in other words if I look at the schedule c this amount here is 200 000 now when I added the w2 income but if I remove the w2 income I'm gonna say remove that now it's at now it's at the 100 000 it limited it to bring the net income to zero because I don't have any other income either and so but if I do the special it treats it a little bit differently as we saw just one more time depreciation and I say I say let's let's do the get rid of the 179 and do this just the special and so now the 200 000 is there and I have a loss so instead of it limiting the loss and then carrying over the 179 it takes the full amount of the special and then takes that loss on over to the form 1040 which possibly could be carried for it as an NOL uh in that fashion so so it's kind of interesting if you have a loss which of those might be more beneficial going forward they're similar but possibly not exactly the same now note that if you disposed of the property after taking the special depreciation we we note what's what's basically happening here we've got this massive depreciation up front which means that property that you might be using at least for five years and beyond that because the the useful life is probably still shorter than maybe you might be planning on using it even if you're planning on using the equipment for 10 years you put it on the books for five years because that's the property class it's assigned to which means you would be already accelerating the depreciation and then you depreciated the whole thing in year one so if you sold it at any point in time in the future now you're going to have a gain of some kind right because your basis has now been brought down to zero so then and then the question is well when you have the gain you might have to have you know that question of how you're going to tax the gain as ordinary income or or uh capital gain and you would think that you would have an like an ordinary income situation like a recapture kind of situation because of the because of the deduction you wouldn't get a more favorable rate you would think on the gain because you you've got this a special depreciation that possibly caused the gain otherwise when you sold it if the depreciation worked purpose perfectly on a counting standpoint which it doesn't there either you know it's an estimate then you would have a much less of a gain when you sold it because that's kind of the point or part of the point at least with machinery like buildings could go up in value even though you depreciate the cost but that's the general idea with the special so the general rule I would think then would be when you when you have the asset should I put it on the do I put it on the books as an expense or an asset if I have to put it on the books as an asset then what's my depreciation going to be I would think first conceptually makers depreciation lines up to close you know more similarly to normal concepts of depreciation and then layer on the concept of 179 and special depreciations to depreciations likely to change most likely to change as laws change going forward as they try to adjust to the economy and everything else going forward


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Taekwondo and Thornton, the goat, Carson Strong, Chrome rookie, Brian Robinson Jr. for Washington. Big gloves. Dalton, Dalton Hill. Yeah, Daxton Hill. Garrett Wilson. Do you guys see Garrett Wilson at that top golf video? He threw the club, dude. He swum and the club came out of his hand. Flying. It's like Manny Machado up there. Crystal Lave, Skymore to 299, the legends for the Bears, Mike Singletary, Oren Moon, Isaiah Spillers. Apparently getting a good amount of work. Jordan Davis. Silver Rookie is K-Von Thibodeau for the Giants. Does that have his team on the back of that? Thibodeau is Giants though. Some of these guys I do know. Evan Neal. Dobbs. Dobbs has been getting a lot of praise. Got a Pierre Strong Patriots rookie, Silverado. Romeo Dobbs has been getting all of that mini-cam in three-season hype, dude. I expected to have like 1500 yards now. Names are hard reading these, man. Kyler Gordon, Tyrion, Davis Price, and many, many's. Silver Rookie, Damien Pierce for the Texans, who apparently they're saying is maybe the leader running back? Chabagasso fired up about that illegal. He might be right. Illegal. I have a feeling that one of your favorite bands is They Might Be Giants. I just get that vibe. That's one of your favorite bands. They got some good songs though. Oh no, Sonny, don't ask me that. I'm not doing it. Kurt Rookie, Jeremy Ruckert, Jets. I'm not tearing one of the Dare to Terror cards. Someone here, maybe? It's a thick card. I don't know if it's Dare to Terror, like an RPA or what. Jabbo, Matt Corral. David O'Jabbo to 249. Future. Rookie, Jersey Auto. We just had an O'Jabbo. Ravens. Ravens David O'Jabbo. Nice one there. Chris Carter. Skymore. I can feel what many know. Skymore. There's an Aidan Hutchinson. Silver Mini. Leonard Fournette for the Bucks. All 280 pounds of Leonard Fournette right there. I want to see Pixel Leonard Fournette.  Probably looks like me, dude. It's a 50 for the Broncos, Russell Wilson. That'll take a while to get used to. Dan Marino.  We don't know yet, dude. It could be a dude in, like, a fifth round. That's really good. We just had a Russell Wilson card, dude. He was a third round pick. He was a useless to starters rookie here. Spiller. Kurt Cousins was a fourth round pick, and they drafted a quarterback way high that year. You truly never know. Derek Carr was a mid-rounder. Second, I think. Don Brady. Best quarterback of all time, a sixth-rounder. Gordon Davis Price. That is a Sam Howell Bronze to 100. You know, Washington. Nice Sam Howell. It happens every year, man. Some of the best receivers ever. Not first-rounders. Some of the best players ever. That is, there's a Malik Willis. Thank you, Titans. Tyler Beatty or Batty. He's a Batty, I guess. I don't know. Batty. Some guys here draft number one overall, they're paint manning. Some guys here draft number one overall, they're Jermarkis Russell. 299, Jalen Tolbert Rookie for the Cowboys. Nice Tolbert. These are not easy to open for being so many packs. That is Daxon Hill. Garrett Wilson for the Jets. We've got a Drake London. Falcon's Chrome. I have to get a little quicker through these first few vet stuff over the vet base there. Ruckert Kenneth Walker. That is Wondale Robinson, David Bell. Pink Ice Wondale Robinson for the Giants. Rookie Mini number two five. One of five. Nice one Giants. Wondale Robinson, Rookie Mini. Or is it Wondale? Kenny Pickett. Velish Jones to 299 Brandon Cooks, Texans. Bailey Zap. Kralaptis. We got a Matt Corral, auto to 25. Nice hit for the Panthers. There we go. Nice one Panthers. Yeah, you can send mini cards to PSA. I'm like 90% sure. Pretty sure I've seen mini rated cards. Nice Corral there for Carolina. Good stuff. John Dotson, Under the Lights, Matt Corral, Silver. They say they grade it a PSA five. The scale is one to five because it's a smaller card. Dobbs Watson. Hertz to 150 Eagles. Jim Kelly. What are we going to do with this guy? No, you should do comedy outside of the LSC chat. What do the kids say nowadays?  Go outside. Got a Jermaine Johnson, the second Rookie for the Jets to 125 on the Mini. Let's not talk about religion, please. That's one of our rules. Peer Strong, Sonic Haskins, Orange, Michael Pittman, Jr. to 199 for the Colts. ThickPak, the RPA there to tear. What do we got? Stingley, Pierce, Jalen Tolbert, Cowboys to 99. Rookie Jersey Auto. There you go. Sorry, Jaguars. Wait, no. No, it is Cowboys. I'm getting so confused here. He played for the Jaguars in college. Jalen Tolbert is a cowboy, I promise you. I'm going to go look it up now because my mind's getting messed with right now. Yeah, he's a cowboy. He's a cowboy. Make sure you tag that for sure. That's terrible. I don't like that. Sauce Gardner, James Williams, and Orange Chrome for the Bears. Kyler Gordon Rookie. That's out of 149. Twitch chat.  Twitch chat. Illegals should probably just go to Twitch chat. Oh, what do we got coming up here? There's Trevon Walker, number one overall. John Metchie. Shame what happened to him, man. And we've got a Bo Jackson dare to tear. Let's do it. Nope. For the Raiders. This will not be torn. 61 of 65 Raiders. Congrats on that. I'm not tearing the card, you guys. You can't peer pressure me to do something like that. It's not my card. And whoever's card it is, I'm not even going to listen to you. We're not starting this on stream here because if I open it and it devalues the card, there's nothing in there that's good. I'm not taking the heat, dude. Read it to 99. Y'all are ravenous. Something wrong with y'all. Insatiable hunger to just tear cards. Drake London, Trey McBride. Got a Matt Corral, Chrome Rookie here. There's like minis. There's like minis inside. There could be autos. It could be kind of a bunch of different things, but it's minis. It could get autos. You could get like more parallels. But they sell fairly well untorn. I'm not touching it, dude. You could find openings of it on YouTube and stuff for past legacies and all that stuff. If I pulled one, depending on who it was, I'd for sure tear it. Me personally. I'm not sure what the upside is with them, but I'd tear it. Just to say I did it. A mini Cooper Cup for the Rams out of 50. And this one has a ding on the top. You're going to send an empty box wrapper for the Rams. Got a dinged mini. So much less service-serious. Look at the ding. All right, I'll just do the same mascot. There's like 25 Tiger mascots in there. What did Vaughn say this time? Oh, no, I will not eat chewy chips ahoy. You cannot make me do that. It's a 58 for the Chiefs. It's Travis Kelsey. There's the Desmond Ritter.  Man, everybody's a comedian tonight in chat. Everybody. I hope you guys are like this when we really need you at 2.30 a.m. in Star Wars Sapphire. Silver rookie Taekwondoor and Patriots the Goat. Spudweb. Respect on the Spudweb. Daxton Hill, Garrett Wilson. Could be a Spudweb signed Declaration of Independence. Uh, that's probably one of the things it isn't. I don't want 25. Chris Carter Vikings. Fondale Robinson. David Bell. Jalen Tolbert. Cowboy.  Dinged mini. What is this? The mall parking lot? Y'all are insane. Like that joke though. Damien Harris on the auto for the Patriots to 50. No, because I'm not going to tear it. We're not going to find out. I can't say anything 100% Cerny. I can't say we won't pull a Lionel Messi auto out of the next box. Can't say that 100% Cerny. We truly don't know. All I know is he's not on the checklist. He doesn't play American football. Brian Robinson. Drumford. William Perry, dude. He's spiking it there. It's a 125. Nice fridge. Perry bears. Hamilton. Malik Willis. Crumb rookie tights. The fridge would tear that card. Yeah, he probably would. Eat it. That's one of the reasons fridge is not breaking for late in sports cars. You got a, what does that say? Kyron Williams. The text is already hard enough to read. Kyron Williams rookie. Kyron Rams on the mini there. Mini silver. WFD, what would fridge do? Dude, y'all must have drank Mountain Dew or something. Y'all are jacked up. Malik Willis rookie. Deontay Johnson stealer is auto. Not auto, just backwards parallel to 100. Never mind. The card was made for ants. What is this? A card for ants is to be at least three times as big. Yvonne Thibodeau, Devin Moyde. I think I got the Black Lumb from ripping too much sports cards. Burke's, Bryant's, Orange, Crystal Ave. Nice one there, Saints to 149. Derek Zulander, Centerford kids who can read really, really good or whatever it's called. Can't read good. Jabo Corral. I've always wanted to try an Orange Mocha Frappuccino, but I can never find it anywhere. Something made my own. There's got to be a recipe online, right? There's an Aidan Hutchinson. We got a Bill Sims to 299 Giants. They have a Zulander, Orange Mocha Frappuccino. Yeah, I've always wanted to have a gasoline fight too. Davis Crystal Ave. We got Brian Robinson Jr. rookie. Brian Robinson Jr., Washington, Evan Neal Spiller to 100. Dual Jersey rookie auto is James Cook. James Cook for the Bills, right? That's the James Cook I'm thinking of. Yep, Bills. Just make sure. There you go. Nice one. Bills to 100. Desmond Ritter. Mini for the Colts is Michael Pittman Jr. That's out of 125. I've yet to play that game, Ferg, is it good? Isaiah Spiller, Charter's rookie to 199. Is he related to this? I'm guessing he's related to CJ Spiller. Bill's legend, CJ Spiller. Sam Howe. Redemption. Jim Kelly. Nice one. Legacy Patch Auto Silver. I'm guessing that's Bills. Is there a rookie named Jim Kelly? I don't know for sure, but this is going to go Bills. You never know, man. You never know. There you go, Bills. Tamar Chase. I can't say for certainty that there isn't. So I have to check. And Silver Josh Allen for the Bills. Hard-hitting questions, Ferg. Do I think any players had too big of an ego and refused to having a mini card? I don't think they had a say in which card they get made of them. I mean, once your NFL PA and, like, any licensed NFL cards, I don't think you have a say in what cards you get. He's making it. Jabbo, Corral, Orange, Brian Robinson, Jr., Washington, rookie to 125. Zach Wilson at 299 Jets. Davis, Crystal Lave. Alec Pierce to 249. Rookie, dual Jersey Auto. Colts Alec Pierce, I believe. Yep, Colts Alec Pierce. Exactly, Vaughn. You technically don't have to sign autographs. Miles Garry had a point, I guess. Orange, rookie, Tyrion Davis Price for the Niners to 149. This is another Tyr card. Jabbo, Corral. Look at that. Traylon Burks. Dare to tear for the Titans. It's a 65. There you go, Titans. Two in six boxes. That's kind of insane. These are from the same case, too. More in Hutchinson to 50. Flipper Anderson Rams. Davis, Crystal Lave, Andrew Booth Jr., rookie Chrome. Evan Neal. I'm not tearing the cards. You guys think you have power here? You think you have power here? That is a Josh Allen Bills mini again. Second mini, the break for the Bills to 75. No, I will not. In all seriousness, I will not. Two, one, 50. Joe Mixon Bengals. Someone's going to complain to Rich I didn't tear the card. Dobbs, Watson, Neal, Spillers, Silver Rookie, John Michi, the third Texans. You know where to find us, Mikey. Malik Willis, Tyler Beatty to 199. Orange for the Bears, Mike Singletary. You just asked for the manager. Well, currently the shop, that would be me. I am the highest up at the shop currently. So, what do you got to say? From Rookie Jalen Tolberg. And points coming up here. It's 250. Random to all at the end. One more box. We're going to be a little bit behind. I'm guessing they're getting walked off of on. Glad to guess. Got a mini in this pack here. Skymore, Aiden Hutchinson. That is an orange rookie. Kobe Bryant. I am not saying that incorrectly. That is Kobe Bryant to 125 with some with some scratches on it. I'll send in the boxer wrapper to the Seahawks on this one. I forgot about him actually.  Seahawks drafting someone named Kobe Bryant. That kid's young enough to certainly be named after Kobe Bryant. Like absolutely be named after Kobe Bryant. I keep forgetting all the kids now are that are in this draft. We're born in like 2001, 2000. Orange Russ to 199 Broncos. Texas Roadhouse. We live near Texas Roadhouse. It's pretty solid for a chain actually. Kenneth Walker to 99. Rookie Jersey Auto Seahawks. Or no, sorry. Yeah, Seahawks. Kenneth Walker. I got a double check as I second guessed. Yeah, Seahawks. Silver Rookie Aiden Hutchinson. There you go, Lyons. Yeah, they have the rolls like what cinnamon butter, I guess. Is that what it is? The Easter rolls, yeah. Yeah, pretty solid. It's really, I just hate doing that. Malik Willis. For a chain, you could do a hell of a lot worse than Texas Roadhouse. Dibbido, Lloyd. To 150, Jerome Betta Steelers. Yeah. He's got Berks, Bryant, Kyler Crome. Yeah, I might have to go this week sometime. Kyren Williams, Jame Johnson, 250 points again, random to all at the end. So, only 30, 45 minutes maybe. Sounds about right. Take the 429 all the way down to straight in. Yeah. And then Robinson, David Bell. Zach Wilson, Jets out of, what does that even say in some time? Let's say 50. You had a 50 for the Jets. Mini. Kenny Pickett. Jones. Purple to 10. Bangles Joe Mixon. Purple to 10. Is it zap or zappy? Yeah, about half hour from Disney. Probably like 40 minutes, I'd say. Disney property. Get anywhere in Disney, it's longer than that. Kyren Williams, Rookie Orange to 149. Just looked him up too, I forgot. Kyren Williams. I'll remember now. Rams. Dude, another tear card. What is going on here? They make a bunch more this year or something? Breeze Hall. Jordan Brisker to 65. Vikings Justin Jefferson. Dare to tear. It's not your card Mikey, no. Even was, no. Romeo Dobbs. Christian Watson. Red to 299. Leonard Burnett Bucks. Chrome Rookie Daxon Hill for the Bangles.  This is what Saturdays are normally like. Y'all are bouncing off the walls. I'm like entertained and frightened. Hopped up on the dude. Yeah, you guys drink too much Mountain Dew for sure. 100%.  Come on, jacked up on Mountain Dew. How was your day today?  All right, two 250 points cards. Random to all. If everyone's up top two spots on the random, we'll get the points. Two points cards. Eight times six and two. What up, Shane? Coming into an interesting chat room, I'd say. Eight times. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven and eight. Lions and Saints. Lions and Saints. Each getting 250. A quick auto recap here. We had Kenneth Walker, Alec Pierce, Jim Kelly, James Cook, Damian Harris, Jaylin Tolbert, Matt Corral, that was a nice one. David O'Jabbo, Pierre Strong, and Traylon Burks. And that'll do it. Thanks again, everybody.