Okay. Welcome to the Amherst Historical Commission's public meeting on Thursday, October 12, 2022, based on Governor Baker's executive order suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law signed Thursday, March 12, 2020, this meeting is being held virtually using the zoom platform. My name is Janet Markleard and as chair of the Amherst Historical Commission, I'm calling this meeting to order at 634pm. This meeting is being recorded and minutes are being taken. I'll now take a roll call of commissioners in attendance as you hear your name called unmute yourself answer and then please place yourselves back on mute. Trisha off. It's not here. Robin Fordham. Present. Madeleine Helmer. Present. Rebecca Lockwood. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I'm here. Okay, everybody mute until we get further along. Opportunity for public comment and questions we provided during the general public comment period later in the agenda. So the first thing on the agenda is a public hearing. So we'll do that first. Do we have a representative to speak to us yet? Yeah. So the applicant himself had to actually leave the country for a family emergency. So, attorney Tom Reed is here on the applicants perhaps. Okay. Hello, thanks for attending. And everyone's looked at the application and the photos. No, I'm happy to share some of the. Always online at the document center, which I forgot today and had to ask Ben Europe on mute. So I can't tell what you're saying. Becky, you're on mute. I do always look, but it wasn't there when I was. Okay. Okay. Well, Ben can walk us through really quickly. It's a very simple situation. Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy to give it a little bit of a. And then Tommy can jump in, but I'll just give a little bit of background just because I just described it in my email that the. So it's the barn at 332 West street. It's at the intersection of Mount Holyoke drive and West street. And you can see it from 116. And it was the, I described in an email that it was the subject of a CPA application in 2017. 2014, 2014 that far back. Okay. So it's a, you know, it was a historical commission, you know, eight years ago, recognize it as an important historical asset for the town meet the owners approach the town looking for CPA funds to help restore it. The project was funded. However, the owners backed out and never accepted the grant due to the not wanting to take on the preservation restriction. So the barn then kind of laid in its current deteriorating condition for a few more years until the current owner bought it. I don't know exactly when maybe the past few years. And they are. I'm still in the detail of my understanding that they're trying to, or they intend to replace the roof on this bill on the barn. And, you know, because of our new bylaw and the age of this structure, it triggered the preservation bylaw because it's, you know, replacing the roof. Which is considered demolition and it's a significant building. So that's kind of the scope of, you know, what we're looking at today for this barn. The existing bar roof material, which I kind of don't believe is original to the barn in this like corrugated tar paper. Which is, I don't think a long term solution for a roof preservation. And the owner intends to replace it with, you know, asphalt shingle so it's a it is a change in appearance. And I want to let Tom jump in if he has any other details to share. That was great Ben so for the record Tom radio turn with Bacon Wilson out of Amherst here on behalf of Mr. Chow. Yeah, I mean I think Ben did a great job it was the owner is looking to use the barn for storage and and so it's leaking it's a dilapidated roof it's not the original roof and so he kind of unbeknownst to him just I mean he started to do the work and then had a conversation realized you know we need to go through this process and so he's going through this process. I sent him an email you know I talked to Ben before and he said the commission may want to know what else is. He's going to do I said great question I asked Mr chow I just haven't heard from him I think the time difference has somewhat prevented us from actually connecting on that. You know as I look at it looks like maybe windows need to be replaced maybe some supporting structure on the outside so it looks like there might be additional work. I mean we'd obviously be back before you if if that work was going to be done but you know at this point I think let's just get the roof taken care of because winter is coming and he's got to get a construction super supervisor licensed contractor out there to complete the work and it should be done sooner rather than later and then we can deal with the other stuff when it comes up. Okay and so he's not planning to turn this into residential units. No, no storage. So if you were to turn into residential use then there's a whole other process. I understand. Does anybody have any comments about the materials Robin. Take a note. That was a great barn assessment that then contributed, and there's a lot of really good information in there about the damage that at least in 2014 was recorded. Really great understanding of how the barn was built and then adapted with this milking shed. And I would really encourage the owner to continue to reference that document going forward. Really glad to see this barn which I ironically enough I submitted on behalf of the CPA barn and outbuilding preservation proposal to the CPA community and this one of the photos that I use. So, right up our alley to see that it's not that the roof is being replaced in a positive way to preserve the structure for happy. There's more barns for being done like this. Now, how do you had a comment. Oh, you're on mute heading. Sorry. It's more a question or concern that the actual shingle roof is not going to be too heavy for the structural system that is the current barn I don't think that's likely but it would be really sad if you put a new actual shingle roof on it. The building underneath wouldn't hold the weight so I assume that the contractor will do some kind of evaluation of that. You know it would definitely apply if it was going to be some kind of stone covering. But I think that sounds great. You're removing the old one first right. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean you see the pictures of it so if you drive by I mean, candidly the work you see that the work has started and it was more of a stop work let's go through this process and then I know it's great. It's great. I imagine that the lightest risks you can put on there. Yeah, and I'd imagine they showed up from the inside to I bet they I bet they're thinking about that because to your point, why make an investment if it's only going to collapse. Sure. Yeah, okay. So does anyone want to make a motion regarding the application for demolition of the roof. So that we approve the application for demolition of the roof. Second that. Okay. All in favor, I'll take a roll call. Robin. I guess you're in favor. Oh yeah sorry favor. Becky. Yes. Madeline. Yes. Okay and I'm in favor so it passes so. Oh, and Pat, you're here. Pat, are you in favor. You're in unmute Pat. Just nod or shake your head. I don't think she can. Yes. Okay, she's in favor. Great. It passes. So tell him thank you for saving one of our outbuildings in town and we're looking forward to seeing it in stiffy shape. Excellent. I'll let him know. Thanks so much everyone. Ben great job. As always. Thanks a lot. Thanks, Tom. Next thing announcements. You have any. I was just going to say, we didn't take public comment for the public hearing and there is someone in attendance. That was coming later but yeah the public hearing is also actually we're supposed to vote to close the public hearing too so public hearing is open I'm sorry. Anyone in the public be ready to come in. Who's waiting. Yeah. Yeah, there any public comment about the 332 West Street barn application you can click the raise hand button. If so. Yeah, Mr. Steadman I'll allow you to talk here. And Bruce you should be able to unmute now. I'm a neighbor a couple blocks away. I've observed the reconstruct the beginnings of the reconstruction. It's a marvelous thing our only neighbor the question was was and I'm sorry to come in late I was in a different zoom meeting and had to come to this. My only question is whether there's other purposes for the barn once the roof is repaired. Is there any other purposes intended. Well, I did ask, and he said it would just be used for storage. And if he changes his mind he'll have to come back to the town so I think at this point it's just storage. Okay, well it's it's marvelous to see it. I agree with that part of it I did catch that at the end so. Thanks for waiting and then, you know, adding your opinion because it's good to hear neighbors are interested. Yeah, absolutely know it's a beautiful building. Yes, it is. Great. Okay. Is that the last public person for this. Yeah, yeah. So would anyone like to move that we close the public hearing. So moved. Okay, so we close that we close the public hearing. And a second. Okay Robin seconded so all in favor of closing the public hearing we can just do a show of hands. Okay, great. I'm sorry we didn't get past both because she's not on screen. I'm sorry. I'm not on screen at that point so. Okay. I'm on mute too. So we're not really getting her participation until she. Okay. I apologize to everybody. I got hacked today. We know. My iPad and I'm in it's, it's not something I'm used to doing zoom on. So forgive me for all of this. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Great. We're moving on to the public meeting. So you're here in time for that. So then do you have any announcements? I didn't, I did not. Okay, great. Preservation plan outreach plan and survey. So has everyone looked at that online. Let me bring it back up for myself or then you can put it up for everyone. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So that's the questionnaire. And then there's the list of people that she's going to talk to. And some people. She already has it looks like. I don't think she has. I think, I think she was just making notes of like what she might talk to them about. Other than us. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll just give a little bit of background in the survey. Obviously it's an important part of the preservation plan. Because it's, you know, one of the only ways that. They'll collect information kind of from the broader community. And so, you know, one thing that we are conscious of is trying to. Replicate the 2005 survey. You know, to the extent possible, just so you can kind of do that, you know, direct comparison. So I think it's important to show, you know, how people, what people's thoughts were in, you know, I guess it was actually 2004 that the survey was probably run. And to 2022. So. Some of the. Questions, I think, especially the kind of like the meat of the survey, like four or five, six are. Taken from the. 2005 survey. I think some of these other questions are. Are just kind of like added kind of around the edges, if you will, just to kind of collect more demographic information about people. So, yeah, I think we're kind of looking for feedback about, you know, should we change any questions? Should we add any questions, take away any questions? You know, change the format at all. And just so you know, this will be. It'll be both available via paper and a digital format as well through our like engage Amherst platform. So it'll be. And it's going to all the people she cited. Is it also being sent out generally in the mail or. Yeah. So this will be sent out, not necessarily in the mail, but you know, broadcast to the whole community through the, you know, social media and. People can. On the link if they see it. Yeah. Yeah. I noticed there's no question about outbuildings. It asks if you think your residence is historic. It says nothing about a barn or outbuilding. Is that something we can add? We are trying to bring awareness about buildings. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. People have had their hands up and I'm talking. Becky, I think you were up first. Just on the list of possible outreach. People in organizations. I'd like to suggest that at least places of worship are added. Many of them are. I didn't see them. I might have missed it. And also maybe the colleges that are in town. Oh yeah. Yeah, they own a lot of. They do. They have. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that, but maybe I'm wrong. I might have imagined it. Yeah. You're on here. Yeah, I saw that Becky had her own. Why is that? I don't know. I thought maybe there's a professor at UMass. Shares my name. I don't know if that's the intention. I don't know it might have just been a goof from the historical commission materials. Yeah, those are two really good suggestions. Ben to pass along. Okay. Robin. Thanks Becky. Robin. Do you want to call the survey back then? Yes. So I'm question to, I think that we need to have. And I don't know. Option. For things that I'm guessing there are people who don't know if they live in the National Register District. That's for a district. They might not even, they honestly might not even know. So. Whether they live in Amherst. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know to those questions. I saw her note about outing. If you live in a historic district as a sub question. I think that I would, I think that the, if you go to the next page, this is kind of a related comment. My issue is sort of how things are worded. And I think it's kind of challenging to understand. I would be perfectly happy to volunteer to go through and, and try to clean up some of the language. Yeah. Like it's problematic. It's actually not. Can you go back up to six? Sorry. Yeah. Another area like, you know, I don't know how many people are going to know about the state of Ontario historic resources, which Tula that should be done. Yeah. Anyway. The next page was particularly confusing these. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. District. And I get. And I'm assuming this is like, I'm not sure if this is an old. Survey or, but I would be happy to volunteer to. To go over. Over it to, you know, suggest some wording. So that particularly here, like, so that it's. Yeah. This, this section I feel like, because we're asking people to, you know, vote.  Vote by mail ballot. You have the whole big, you know, thing that explains all the particular stuff. And then you have like a three sentence thing that says. You know, voting, yes, would. You know, like, that's kind of what I felt here. Maybe make the definitions easier to. Make the definitions easier to understand and. You know, design district guidelines would.  My big comments. And like I said, it'd be, I'd be happy to, you know, go through and do. Yeah. Full comments and everything if that's helpful. I'm sure she'd find it very helpful. Yeah. This is Shannon, right? Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll see you tomorrow. You know, I'm working for her, right? Right. Exactly. Yeah. I think there's some, yeah, there's some. I mean, we're so used to these terms, like, I don't even think about it, but. And somebody makes a lot of sense. I'm not, I, I didn't understand. I kind of understand what an overly district is. And I didn't really understand that particular wording. And I think. You know, we have to really. Make it easy for people who don't have a background in this to say, oh, yeah, that seems like a good idea. Or that's not what I want. So, okay. Great. Madeline. Yeah. Let's see. Can you hear me? I. Let's see. I have some notes. I think. It's good to just consider the purpose of the survey. You know, is this. I think this can be really useful for identifying the communities, preservation goals, and just the direction that we want the preservation plan. To, to go. And not necessarily. To just to kind of boil down to what, what should be implemented in town, but. And I understand that we do want to identify kind of the demographics of the respondents, but I don't. I don't know if we should emphasize.  How much does that matter. To be in a, you know, to be a participant in the historic preservation process. And. Maybe that can go like later in the survey. Rather than be so prominent and upfront. Yeah. Maybe say something like home or apartment building or something so that we make it clear we don't just mean private homes. Yeah, maybe something like that. Right. Well, during. Assume it's a house, but it doesn't have to be right. Right. Yeah, that's true. And then. Can you go to question for. Yeah. Oh yeah, a question for I really like this for identifying the significant aspects of Amherst character. Some of these questions that. We're ranking with one being the most important and then just having to sort of identify. One, two, three, four, five seconds. Maybe. Do you, and this can be a discussion. Maybe we should have. The respondent kind of identified maybe the four most important or. Just something a little bit easier. To. To use here rather than 10. Kind of rankings, although. Maybe that would work. It depends on like. The sort of interface for the survey. And then question five. I don't know if designated is necessary for, so it says, how well do you feel. That are for preserving designated properties. I wonder if that's necessary. Cause it's just older historic fabric. I don't know if that's something we want to protect. Right. Like that. Without, no, yeah, that doesn't, the designation doesn't necessarily matter. Maybe. Yeah. No, what is and isn't anyway. Yeah, I don't. Right. I don't either. And. Let's see. Oh, and then just right. I agree with Robin with question 10, but I don't know if that's necessary. Especially some of the terms are a little. Maybe you need to be reworded or clarify like redevelopment. Mixed use and pedestrian oriented. Maybe that's a little vague. And environmental sensitivity could be. Maybe clarified. And I would also be happy to help. With this, but I think it looks. It looks good. I think it could be really useful. Yeah, the main thing is getting enough participation. Yeah. And I think it's a balance too, because it's a bit more complicated. It is. And the fewer people are going to respond. It feels very comprehensive to me. And as I'm. Looking at it again, I actually think. That a lot of the phrases, a lot of the titles in the survey are. Potential topics we could all be. Writing about, you know, in, in terms of just. Educating our neighbors and friends and colleagues and people in the area and the valley about, you know, what we think this means or why, why we're particularly interested in.  Sorry. It's again. I just wanted to say, I definitely yes to what Robin said. I know when I first read this. And when I am given the questionnaire.  Number four ranking. Then number six and number seven. Being asked to do that after number four. You lost me. My eyes were glazed. I really wouldn't. That's when I quit. Stuff like this.  If we want lots of participation. And maybe it'd be easier if instead of ranking, which I also find hard too, because you have to go over and over and over it to come up with your numbers. Yes or no. Important. Yes. No, maybe. Or something like that. Be faster and easier for people. Or she's almost like the five most important here. Just. Yeah, check the ones that you think are the most important. Yeah, something like that. I think like the ranking each thing, you know, more important, you know, less important, whatever neutral. You know, that might be, that might be more useful. So that you don't have to think about all of them and. Yeah, each one could have a cross room at boxes. Very important, important, not so important, not important or something like that. Exactly. Yeah. I think that would be the best way to. To handle it because that will develop a ranking. Based on people's feelings without them having to sit there and think about themselves. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. I will say that all of you. Right. Asking the public to rank things by order is going to be as Becky said, they're going to glaze over and they're not going to. But if you have a box that it's important. Less important. Don't know. Then at least it will. They will get ranked. So across this like that. Yeah, great. Great. Great. Great. All really good suggestions. Thank you everyone for reading it so carefully. You've covered all the things that I had thought about. And some I didn't. So great. Oh, just one more thing. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Just number of question 14. I think is just a really important question. I think that's really great to include here and what groups, areas. Maybe underrepresented and maybe other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Becky's brought up. Yeah. Maybe move that closer to the top in case people do run out of steam. So I'm going to stage Shannon tomorrow. And then I can talk to her and then Madeline, if you and I would want to connect about, you know, maybe I could pull this into a work document and.  I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have one really minor issue, but it's important to me. I, you know, we're all asked to complete questionnaire. Yeah. And if I get one, and it says this will take you 10 minutes. I am so much more inclined to spend 10 minutes. Then the unknown. Yeah. 20 minutes later, I'm still, you know, in the middle of it. So I think it would be helpful. To just say how long it's going to take. Yeah. Yeah. I know with the, in the digital version, you can do like a status bar on the bottom. So it shows you how much longer you have. Yes. Yeah. For the paper version, we can just say, you know, The paper version, you see how many pages. Yeah. Yeah. But that's a good point. Becky, if you can gauge, you're more willing to undertake it. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Great. Well, thanks for passing along the information. To Shannon. All of you. And for offering to work on. Clarification.  And I think kind of I echo what Madeline said about kind of. Just keeping in mind what the purpose of this is. Like, do we. Do we really? Yeah. Like just. I had written to Shannon to like, you know, to what extent are people really going to know about like, you know, the scenic roads and in town or like, you know, I don't know, some of this other like really specific stuff. And, you know, are we asking too much of people to like really identify all these specific tools or is it really about. Just identifying broader trends about, you know, what is important for you in preservation? Like, you know, such as the scenic views and stuff like that. Or. So I, I'm keeping that in mind as well. I think it's a good survey. But I might work with Shannon just to clean up. Yeah. Like Robin and other said, but the wording and just making it a little bit more. Friendly, I guess for the average. Just remember that a lot of people who live in town, don't only see this as.  Also aware that we're a tourist destination and we're trying, we bring in all this. And their parents. And I think most people have a broader sense of, you know, the way embers works. I'm hoping. And I had one more thing too in the process of, and this made me think about it. It's important to be able to collect the data. From the survey. So they should be designed in a way that it's easy. I mean, digitally, that's one easy way. But if we're going to do paper, which we probably need to do, for some folks, they have to design it so that it can be looked at and then compiled easily. So. Yeah. So having too many different kinds of rankings and stuffs makes it hard to grab the data. Yeah. I mean, we could even put it together. As a. In a way, we can put it together. In a form for data entry is it's going to have to be transferred to data. So we could design it as a data entry form and people would fill in boxes. Check boxes. I did a survey this summer for historical commissions in Berkshire County. You do. I don't know what platform the town uses, but I know that when you do a Google form survey, it's pretty easy to just basically just print out, you know, in the format that you've written it in and then straight forward. So you design the digital and then the paper kind of comes from the digital to mirror it. Good. Okay. Well, you can talk to Shannon about that too. Well, yeah. Well, actually, I think I have to take the band because if the town uses a different platform, we'll figure it out. Yeah. Well, it's nice to have an inside. It's nice to have an inside line here with you. Good. Okay. I think we've come to some good ideas. Plan. So was there any public comment on this? Do you think, is there anybody waiting to talk about this? No, no, and not even held us here. So, Oh, nothing else either. Okay. There's one anticipated item I wanted to bring up. I'm sorry. I think most of you will not. But you may have heard. Jane Wald received a letter yesterday because the person who sent it thought she was still chair. So she forwarded it to me and we talked about it today. It concerns the library renovation. And it comes from. Sarah McKee who is a former director of the library who has been opposed to the renovation. She has been trying to stop it. Well, as long as I've been on the commission. And she has been sending letters to the Massachusetts historical commission. To protest that some of the laws are being broken by Amherst and the library by not. Supplying a certain, certain kinds of information that are required. For the MHC to have and it's, she is a former attorney or she is an attorney and she believes there's a breach of contract and that. The state should money back that's been offered. This has been going on a long time. The plan. For the library has not fully gelled yet. And so actually. It's been too early to actually. Convey that information. But her, the, the. The issue she hinges everything on is that it's supposed to be done in a timely manner. And it's been six years, partly because of COVID. Partly because her group. Made. The. Town council take a revote on this. So a lot of things have slowed it down. But it's true that it's been that long. However. We are one of many recipients. This. This letter was copied to the governor. The senator representative. Or the trustees, us, the town manager, the library director, the finance director, and then the architects and design firms. And so. Everybody has gotten it, but this is, we used to get thick packets from them. We've seen this for a long time. And we just have always. We have never responded because we just felt that the town and the library were moving along appropriately. And that this wasn't an issue. Jane and I talked today about. The fact that really it's still the case. We've been talking about this for a long time. We've been talking about this for a long time. We've been talking about this for a long time. Well, many, many times just wait until it's actually ready. And we're getting closer. But. We are the. Holders. Of the preservation restriction. So we have a particular obligation to. Make sure that the preservation restriction is upheld. And for that reason. So. I think we, we, we, we have to work with. Paul Backelman and, and the. Awesome Saret, the chair of the library board. And Sharon, the director of the library about this, so that we were all on the same page. And to make sure they were doing their best. But it's been a few years. So I'm going to talk to them all again. And we were thinking that we would. So, you know, not with dates, but just a sort of. Timeline of events that will have to happen. And at what point in that this material will be provided as required by the MHC. But I'm not going to respond at this point yet. We're going to wait a little and I'm going to work on this and then talk to the others and see, you know, I think we all need to know that this is going on, even though ultimately. I'll be the one who responds if we respond. Yes. Robin. Thank you for. Giving that review. I remember reading something. I think it was in the image. In the awhile back, but heading back to the next slide. I think we all need to know that this is going on, even though ultimately. I'll be the one who responds if we respond. Yes. Robin. Thank you for. Giving that review. I think that was something I think it was in the image in the awhile back that heavy head. Quite about to me, which, you know, it was the same. The same basic message. I also had conversations with Jane about it. You know, I worked in community development where we had this event project of vacation forms. And. I, I guess my question is like this is such. It's. How do I want to say this? There's such a. Choose moments very carefully. There's such a level of concern. From these communications. That I feel. If it is misplaced. You know, the kind of repetitive nature of it. It's a little bit frustrating to me that there is not. Some sort of calm. I wouldn't even call it a rebuttal, but it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. To say. These are valid concerns. Here's everything that's happening. We're doing everything that's required. The MHC is not.  You know, that process is about. Things not getting by them. There's so many eyes on this project. So there's a constant dialogue back and forth. And I think that's my, you know, I can feel blood pressure rising. That's my frustration. When I hear this kind of continued to be. Put out there in the public with, you know, people that I know who may not understand that what's happening. Isn't actually in violation of anything. And so that's what. I would say is that, you know, is there an appropriate point? You know, there's this question of sort of like. Is something that's unfounded, not worth responding to, because it just stands. The flames or is there a point where it would be appropriate to just. Lay out the facts of the matter that, you know, if people are hearing this, this shouldn't be concerned because. You know, everyone is communicating with everyone else. Everything is above board.  You don't submit a project notification form until you have, until you could, like you said, you have your project set so that it can be reviewed. You're not going to. Waste staff time reviewing projects over and over again. States and the letter are abuses and. Problems with the design have changed. The thing that we saw about what they planned to do is what we had. So. I think we should wait though, until we do have sort of a general agreement among. All these various stakeholders that this was sent to, I mean, locally, and then we can decide whether we do it publicly or whether, you know, one of these people says something, but I, at the moment, I don't want to start a dialogue because I think as you say it will, it will escalate. Absolutely. I wouldn't want to start a dialogue. I think it is really important to have a clear. Common measures response. Because, you know, I find it frustrating that there isn't a counter voice to say, you know, these people are making. Are the, this group is concerned about. Legitimately concerned about a bunch of things that are part of this process and we're here to assure you. That were. Once we get further into this, it's just been. And that whole thing will be real. And I think now we're finally getting back on the arm-making progress, the design. And as it gets further along, they can start telling the public, yes, things are really long. Here we are and everything's fine, you know? Right, right. But yeah, I mean, even with delays, there is a process, and I'm sure the language is, you know, there's not a time deadline and there are all sorts of processes that go on behind the scenes that nobody knows about. Yeah, I would welcome the measured response. I'm gonna work with people when I get back in November. So Becky? Yeah, I just, I am certain that everything's been done the way it ought to be, but I'm wondering, do we need to consult with the town's attorney? And the town's attorney. Oh no, I don't think we need to. I'm sorry, my cat's sitting on the keyboard. No, I think that if anybody, it would be Paul Backelman. You know, and I would leave, I would just sort of coordinate with that effort. I know that we have a particular role because of the preservation restriction, which is, sorry, my cat just decided to knock everything over. But I think that can be rolled in with what's going on with the other people in town. Ben, if you have a disagreement, or you want to- No, no disagreement.  Yeah, those are kind of the COVID place. You know, I think at that point, you know, when we were preparing, yeah, yeah, when we were preparing for them to come in August, part of the conversation was like, you know, what you submit to us, you know, submit, you know, they were expecting to submit it to MHC at the same time just so everyone was reviewing the same documents. And then, you know, we got derailed a little bit with the cost increases. So I, you know, I expect that they will submit to MHC what they submit to us. And for that matter too, a lot of this project is also banking on them getting historic tax credits, which I actually don't know that much about. Maybe Robin does, or Madeline, but I know that it's a very lengthy review process that involves a high level scrutiny as well. So I have full faith, there'll be a lot of eyes on this project, so. I can't find my raise hand button on this side. But I have, I'm going back to what Becky just suggested, only with the idea of the question that as the historical commission who does hold the preservation commitment and oversight, whether or not our response to all of that needs to have a separate line, going along with the town and everybody else, but whether or not, because of our special status relative to the library, whether there needs to be recognition and response related to that. Well, I'll ask about that when I'm talking to the other stakeholders. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Okay, anybody else? That was just an unanticipated item in yesterday, but I did let you all know that I'm going to be working on it a little bit. I would just add two other unanticipated items. One is I was preparing to put out another RFP for the more headstone restoration work at West Cemetery, so that'll probably we'll get someone under contract, maybe by January or something, 23, and then they'll start in the spring. And then, oh yeah, similarly, that we have someone to replace the fence at West Cemetery if it's Gerald fence over in Florence. And yeah, that'll probably happen in the spring as well. And then my other unanticipated item, oh, it's just kind of an update about the CPA projects. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had thought everything was due September 30th, but the projects have not been made public yet. So I was thinking we could review them at this meeting, but I didn't have access to all the application materials yet. But I think our next meeting is November 9th. And I think that would be an opportunity to review the projects at that point. Yeah, and Ben and I talked about the fact that it's not required that we prioritize and come up with amounts for each application. We've just sort of done that in the past and that it might turn out because we're gonna be looking at them a little later to be equally useful to simply write a support letter where we could talk about all at once, but maybe just say one thing is particularly crucial or we're very supportive or whatever, but without actually ranking and suggesting that we think it should be capped at this amount or that sort of thing. So it's a little less work. And maybe I don't know you two of you have been on CPA, whether that would be equally useful to having us go through that process. I think that sounds great, actually. I think it sounds much more clear. But that's because I'm a words person, not a numbers person. And I can't think in numbers, you know, I can't.  Yeah, but it just doesn't compute when we're looking at things that have value added to them in the way that CPA applications tend to. Yeah, I love that idea, Jan. Great, Robin. I'm just saying the ranking issue, I mean, there are, there is a lot of discussion because we never know how much money is we're gonna have and how much money is gonna be asked for. And so there really is a necessity of knowing like, okay, which one really has to, I mean, if everything's equal, we can say, you know what, everything's equal. But if we feel like, you know, something needs to come before something else, if it's a question of when push comes to show. Oh, we can say that in the letter, yeah.  And we went in and we fine-tuned each application's amount and everything to fit that. But, you know, we used to have three and four-hour meetings on just that, like two of them. Yeah, I don't think fine-tuning the cost. I mean, the cost for what the applicants bring forward I can't remember why we adjusted the amounts before. Sometimes that happens in the CPA meetings, but I think just getting it, you know, it's pretty easy to say, okay, we like all of these, which, you know, which feels like the most important. Yeah, that question will come up, you know, and I'll be there having to say which one. Yeah, I mean, I think we can kind of state our letter generally and send our rep maybe with more detail. Okay, that's fine, that's fine. I mean, I don't think it will take much, I think they'll be what, you know. I mean, look at this and we're gonna have all these, the ones that have been shown to us so far, they're all excellent. We haven't seen the final thing yet. They're all very necessary and they're all way over what we're able to afford. So, you know, I would rather let the CPA committee worry about the details of funding than us trying to. I think the funding is, yes, I think it's the question of priority is a different than funding, yeah. But the other reason not to look at them tonight is because we don't have the finished packets yet and I didn't want to base it on what these people had come to us and asked advice about and then use that to measure their proposal. I want to see the finished product because I'm sure they have more information now. Yeah, and if there's a need for like a site visit for any of them, I mean, I know we've, I was thinking even those paintings at the Strong House, like I have no idea what those paintings look like. It might be helpful. Well, if I'm supposed to write a letter of support, I'll mess it up as a historian.  Maybe, yeah, we could. Well, let us know when we can plan those. Yeah. Then, yeah. OK, great. Anything else? No, I got the barn, the barn, outbuilding proposals in there. Yes. Thanks, Robin. Thank you, Robin. I guess everybody doesn't know that I worked with, well, she came and talked to us. Yeah. Oh, that's right, yep. I just forgot her name. Susanna, right? Susanna, thank you. Mosquat who came and talked to us about the idea for the stained glass tour. Robin pointed her towards a cultural council and we did put together an application and turn it in. So we're hoping, hoping on that, I hope they're, you know, they don't offer much, but I think they probably aren't as inundated as CPA is. So that's a great idea. Thank you guys. Yeah, and we need to do more of these walks. So I'll probably be coming back to you after I'm off the off the commission. So we're a cultural council. Yeah, but I'll be asking you if you're interested in these. I'll be showing you stuff. So because I'll ask for your sponsorship. If I get it right. OK, do we have a date? I think we do have a date for next. Number seven, I think. Well, right. Why that's it's a night. The night it's a Wednesday. All right. Is that what everyone has to all? Yeah. Yes, the ninth. Sorry. OK, great. So is that still good for all? I know we are working around Thanksgiving and some people being away. And so that was perfect. That's right. The day before the first CPI meeting. Yeah. OK, great. Good. OK, so we can give you our general letter and our specific comments. OK, well, would anybody like to move to adjourn the meeting less than an hour in? I move. I guess I'm back. Were you seconding that? Well, this is historic. This is a 54 minute meeting. Just chalking one up there. I know we didn't have much on the agenda, but nevertheless, it's always good. Well, I'm flying away tomorrow, but I will be back in November and we'll continue on. Have fun. Have fun. Six travels. Thank you. Take care, everyone. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye.


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we actually looked at stationary states of energy. So, when I say stationary states of course, it is stationary states of energy which means solution of H psi equal to E psi for a time independent problem. So, all the problems that we have done are time independent problems. So, the problems that we actually discussed are one was particle in a box. Remember I am not going to go through them that is reminding you what all we did and all of you know the results of the particle in a box you get the quantum numbers which are and the energy is a n square h square by 8 mL square where L is the box length. So, this is for 1D box if you have 2D and 3D box similarly you will have more and more quantum numbers and energy will be some of the x, y and z. So, that you have done and of course n is equal to n starts from 1, 2, 3, etc. And the wave function is for the 1D box again wave function is some constant times sin n pi x over n. So, for 1D box you can write down the 2D and 3D box trivially by invoking the non-interacting theorem that I stated yesterday. What is the non-interacting theorem? There if you have Hamiltonian is sum of two operators or three operators wave function is a product of course for electrons they will become anti-symmetrize product that is a different matter but right now there is only single particle. So, it is just a product of x, y and z direction energy is a sum. So, basically invoke the same non-interacting theorem and you can generate the total wave function. I hope all of you remember y n cannot be y n negative is not written and y n equal to 0 is not written. I hope all of you know this. Somebody told me y n equal to 0 is not allowed in the derivation of the particle in a box. Wave function would not be a number, wave function will be 0. No, I did not understand why it is a number means? Number is a proper wave function. Oh, 0 is not just a number, 0 means the wave function does not exist. There is no probability of getting the particle, there is a serious consequence. Number is different if psi is just constant it is okay at least if it is not constant over entire space then it is not okay because then it is what is called not normalizable. So, otherwise it is okay but it is 0. So, that is not number is a really incomplete way of saying giving the answer please understand. It is 0 because of course you have a probability finite probability why it is not negative? Because if I take n is a negative this is nothing but negative of psi n. So, any psi n if psi n is a Eigen function minus psi n is automatically an Eigen function. So, that we do not have to take. So, the point is that if H psi equal to S E psi then any H psi is also an Eigen function with the same Eigen value but that is not a linearly independent Eigen functions because it is just a multiplication of a psi. So, any of these will be an Eigen function. So, we do not take this into account. So, that is the reason negative n is not allowed. Is it clear to everybody? In the solution of this particle in a box we encountered one important goodness condition and that was called the continuity of the wave function. So, I want to tell you that there are certain important points that the wave function must satisfy. One was a continuity of wave function that the wave function must be continuous over entire space. So, that is how we put a two boundary condition at the x equal to 0 and x equal to L. Remember of course the particle in a box I have not written the problem that V was infinity outside the box. The potential is infinity outside the box and 0 inside. Of course if it is not 0 if it is finite it does not matter there will be only a scaling. You can easily calculate as long as it is some constant value. If it is not a constant and that could be an interesting problem for example it is infinity here but inside it is not 0 it is not constant but let us say it is improved increasing. So, let us say V equal to x. You understand the problem. I hope you will be able to solve this problem. I may be entitled at least for this course to ask such problems now without solving them in the quiz at least. So, you should be able to solve such problems. You actually solve V equal to 0. Remember particle in a box but now if I put V equal to x there has to be still a continuity here. Remember so at this point whatever happens I must go back to 0. So, you think over it how to solve such problems? It can be a quadratic function x square for example. I had also discussed several nuances for this particle in a box that my coordinate need not be 0 to L. Coordinate may be minus L by 2 to plus L by 2. In which case eigenfunctions will be either symmetric or anti-symmetric which was a consequence of the fact that the Hamiltonian is a invariant to parity operator, parity symmetric which is exactly what I will come to the harmonic oscillator. In fact, now harmonic oscillator has the same problem. So, there are several nuances that we talked and we also looked at 2D and 2D, 3D boxes and their degeneracy. Remember so I just thought I will at least mention you the topic because I am not again going to cover this but those who have problem please revise these topics that what are the 2D and 3D boxes, they can be a square box, they can be a cubic box then need not be a square box. I can have a 2D box with L1 and L2 length then the degeneracies will become completely different. Do you remember? Then we have to see N1 square divided by L1 square plus N2 square divided by L2 square must constant. So, find out N1 and N2. So, those are very interesting problems but it is a only problem of arithmetic that you should be able to find out. So, I think we discussed many of these problems. Then we also discussed among these stationary states particular in a box remember was discussed very, very elaborately. It is a very, very famous problem. So, then the second was harmonic oscillator, simple harmonic oscillator where the potential was half of kx square and here in particular before we solve the problem we noted that the Hamiltonian itself is even. So, minus h of minus x is equal to h of plus x. Why? Because kinetic energy is a second derivative operator d2 dx2. So, if you second derivative operator if you change x to minus x it remains in variance. If it is d first derivative it changes sign. I hope that is clear. So, d of d minus x is minus d of dx. I hope that everybody understands. So, same way if I do d2 d of minus x square to it is same as d2 dx2. In this case it is plus exactly like minus minus becomes plus. So, it is exactly the same reason. So, the kinetic energy is always an even function even operator. The potential being an even operator makes ensures that the Hamiltonian is even and this is exactly what is called the parity invariant and we showed we actually introduce a term called the parity operator that parity operator p acts on any function phi of x to give you phi of minus x. So, that is a definition of the parity operator and then we showed that this Hamiltonian commutes with the parity operator and a proof that hence the Eigen functions are either odd or even. I remind you again this proof was something that we did quite elaborately. A very similar proof we will do for the permutation symmetry in many electron problem. But both on that I will actually do. So, I am not going to do it again but it is very easy to show that if h commutes with p the Eigen functions of h will be Eigen functions of p then we took the p square psi is equal to lambda square psi. So, it is very similar thing that the Eigen function value of p is either 0 or 1 very similar thing that we did to show that the psi must be either odd or even. I hope all of you again can prove this but if you remember the proof was actually absolutely trivial that p psi was equal to a psi then you have p square psi equal to a square psi and of course p square psi by definition is nothing but psi because p psi is psi of minus x p psi is again psi of plus x. So, we can say that a square equal to 1 which means a equal to plus minus 1 very similar if a equal to plus minus 1 then p psi is nothing but plus minus psi and p psi is nothing but psi of minus x. So, psi of minus x is plus minus psi of x that was the very three line proof that we did just again recall that. So, the Eigen functions are either odd or even very similar proof will come. I am again reminding you because it is very easy to forget. So, then eventually of course we solve the actual harmonic oscillator problem by two means by ladder operator remember and then by actual differential equation solution and we found that the energy quantum number is n plus half h cross omega where omega was the oscillator frequency and n of course in this case starts from 0 etc. 0 1 2 3 etc. Importantly you have to find that since E is n square dependent here E is linear dependent on n the spacing between the two are quite different in this case they keep on increasing in this case it is a constant alright. Further in trying to solve these differential equation we brought in an important concept and that is called the normalizability. If you remember that the wave function must be such that it must be normalizable just like we said continuity of a function we said that the normalizability of a function so the wave function must be normalizable. So, that was another important consideration if you remember that is the reason for this we had pre-multiplied by a factor exponential minus alpha x square by 2 because that ensures that at x equal to plus infinity and minus infinity it will make it 0 remember any wave function if it does not die at large x the function is not normalizable I hope all of you understand this. So, let us let us take a psi of x one dimensional where the limit psi of x at x tends to infinity is finite which is non-zero in such a case mod psi square dx if I integrate between minus infinity to plus infinity either plus or minus does not matter will become infinity and if it becomes infinity it is not normalizable I hope you understand this for example even if psi of x is just a constant across entire minus infinity to plus infinity some constant k then do the integration k square dx minus infinity to plus infinity it will become infinity k square will come out integral dx is infinity right. So, whenever you have a Cartesian axis which goes up to infinity that is very important psi must die this is not allowed so in the limit x tends to 0 the psi must die which means which essentially means that actually it should become 0 and that is a very important part that you have to so limit psi x as x tends to plus or minus infinity must become 0 note that you may ask the question why did I not use it for particular in a box I did not because particular in a box my potential was infinity so that automatically ensured that psi is 0 remember so that was not required but if I come here even if I am talking of this potential it is not required because the potential here is infinity it is only up to L there is no problem but in the case of the harmonic oscillator I have to ensure because the potential is not infinity potential is just half kx square so of course at some point it will become infinity but it is it is not automatically infinity so I have to ensure in the process that this has to be 0 and that is the reason the harmonic oscillator psi of x if you remember always starts with a pre factor e to the minus alpha x square by 2 and then the polynomial some polynomial which also actually has to be cut for the same reason and that is how the quantization comes this ensured that x equal to plus infinity minus infinity the wave function is 0 because the polynomial is only a finite power of x this is a infinite power of x x square actually so this will die much faster than its increase so either way that will make it 0 in the limit so that is really the calculus that whenever you have such a term it will be 0 x square because I have to make it 0 on either side x minus infinity plus infinity so it must be an even function this part must be an even function this polynomial will be either even or odd so that will make the entire function either even or odd right and that is what we have actually seen so this is something again remember we have done it for 1D box 1D harmonic oscillator sorry you can do the same thing for 2D and 3D which are uncoupled and then your energies will be some wave function will be product if it is uncoupled harmonic oscillator that is x and y there is no coupling we have just have a potential which is half k x square plus half k y square plus half k z square it is trivial to do by using my non-interacting theorem so again that is something that we did and then the third example that we did was hydrogen atom which is formally two particle but we said that we can actually convert this into a single particle problem by center of mass and the relative coordinate so we transform this into a center of mass and a relative coordinate right center of mass is just the kinetic energy part the relative coordinate is what we solve what we call the normally R or R theta phi three dimension electron with respect to the nuclei and we actually solve this problem it is a very detailed calculation detailed solution of the differential equation because it is a 3D problem by definition which is not coupled of course so it is not there x plus y plus z you have three quantum numbers to start with like here you have only one quantum number only if you go to 2D and 3D you have two and three quantum numbers here you automatically get three quantum numbers and they have been called n l n m so all of you know this is a principal quantum number it starts from 1 l goes from 0 to n minus 1 m goes from minus l to plus l in steps of 1 I think all of you hydrogen atom is very well discussed once again remember that the continuity condition for phi and theta and for R so you actually solve this problem in spherical polar coordinate R theta phi and note for R which can go to infinity again you have to use very similar condition like this so that is the reason for the radial part for the radial part which depends on two quantum numbers n l you have a pre-factor exponential minus alpha R and then something else note that everywhere this pre-factor is again there here you do not need R square because R by definition is only 0 to infinity spherical polar coordinate not minus infinity to plus infinity I hope you remember in spherical polar coordinate phi goes from 0 to 2 pi but R goes from 0 to infinity okay so I do not need R square R is sufficient so this is again the same effect the normalize normalizability wave function so this is basically sometimes these are these particular thing is called square integrable that is another name that the wave function must be square integrable what is square integrable that the square of the wave function modular square of the wave function if you integrate you must get a number which is finite and not infinity I showed you that if this is this was not there if I integrate with a minus infinity to plus infinity the number would have become infinity so that is not allowed so square integrable means square of the function must be integrated in the entire volume to give a result which should be finite so in general this should be square integrable so we learn two important conditions of the wave function which are called the goodness criteria one is the continuity of the wave function another is the square integrable of the wave function we also later in certain cases we have done the problem that not only the wave function must be continuous but it must be also derivative continuous which means the derivative of the wave function must be continuous in certain types of problem this is required in the particular in a box as it is defined it is not required but we have done the step functions in fact there is one of the problems that we did again in 4 to 5 I just thought I would remind you these are all called the goodness criteria of the wave function no it is not necessary condition but these are these conditions are required only when see I mean here here if you if you calculate the derivative here for a sin n n pi x it is a cos x so you will get a cos x so at cos l I do I am not yeah so I am not I am not I am not enforcing that as a condition I cannot enforce I cannot enforce because because this is a this is a higher level of criteria so that is the reason I cannot level if the wave function is not continue there is no point talking of derivative continuity okay so it is not required in that sense and this is not required because there are no other parameters to obtain okay so the derivative continuity is often given when there are more parameters in the wave function and you have less equation so that also comes up as a conditions to get those parameters that is correct I am saying the wave function is 0 that part is right right so I am saying that since if you want to make a continuity wave function then if I cannot impose the derivative continuity so this is a higher criteria okay so that is the point if I have already satisfied this then I will see remember these are all goodness criteria which is called the desirable part of the wave function even you can have wave function which are not square integral nothing wrong in that except that we do not like to work with that because I cannot define my probability so most of this criteria are not necessary conditions they are goodness can goodness criteria so they are very often called the goodness criteria of the wave function so the wave function is well behaved there is another term which is called it well good behavior of the wave function okay so in this case I cannot do for a simple reason because that will clash with my continuity and continuity wave function is a very important conceptual criteria because that means you are saying that the density abruptly changes probability density which is non-intuitive counterintuitive I would say so that is the reason it is very important to have this


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Okay, I plan to be so are you raised with your mom and dad? I was raised with my mama your mama for the most part your most part till how old 13 till 13 then you went where to your dad to where You left the house Neighborhood why you didn't want to live a mama no more It's not that or you couldn't abide by her rules a Little bit of that so you know, but it was really like you know never got in Florence on me I wanted to do more. I want to be out more, you know, so But at 13 I always heard okay. Tell me if I'm wrong because this is my notion I always heard that okay if you 13 and you leave the house if I call the police to come get you Gotta come back home if they catch me here. Okay, so you but so that is true Mm-hmm Like if you call us you do it on miss the first report and the laws come look for me and they find me Then I gotta go back then you got to go back home. Yeah, cuz they gonna bring me down Okay, cuz I want my kids all the time when I heard it.  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My answer is I don't even know what I would do differently to be honest because it all worked out to be honest Did you learn anything from that? Because I can't imagine I've seen a lot of kids especially boys growing up Acting like they're grown adults because they had no other choice So but being a mom, I'm not gonna say I've sympathized with them But then I feel like they missed a lot of their childhood by doing so You know what I mean? I ain't really had no Chance to do you know big kid, you know I wanted to have you know and sometimes you know that I guess that's why we have my little childish moments and stuff like that, but You know I got said That's just reason why I am who I am today. Yes siblings. Yeah Older younger. I got an older sister and I got a younger sister and younger brother and for the rigour also I want to put out there when I was when I left the house I always stayed in contact with my mama, you know, because I know she would be worried or something Exactly I'll come back, but I never like sleep there. Okay, cuz you know, it was six of us in the one bedroom apartment So if I did come back, you know, if I had some money, I would you know tribute I will put in okay cuz me sleeping on the floor, you know Just didn't work. I didn't have I was that a norm for that environment you were in A lot of people like that at that age Okay, so it wasn't anything just okay. So when did you start loving the music? I started loving the music Really started, you know, if the net I was like 19, you know, I think I'm thinking it was like nine or ten I was in elementary school from the mistake and I was going to on Grissom elementary and like every time like in the morning Like possibly brushing my head something like a DJ screw song go for a zero song, you know Those songs be long. So the instrumental be playing at the end. He'll get the freestyle in black.  You feel me? So like I like I always wanted to rap from there You feel me like it was just those good moments that I held on to sometimes you feel me So around the time when everybody was trying to rap, you know, all the young niggas trying to wrap everybody trying to upload Music on SoundCloud. That's when I was able to get the resources that I needed, you know so I used to walk like 30 40 minutes away walk all the way from Primes was be all the way to like by by um What was it? Trying to see what those look like So I post stuff if I'm not mistaken used to take the back streets So it cuz used to get on so I post over all right there and on by the jack in the box and go Say a little neighborhood right there. So we used to on get the little laptop Get the little mic record right there Then go to go to Jack the box and upload the songs on SoundCloud you feel me? So I started taking advantage from there then that's why I really got serious with it That was like 2018 Excuse me So I want to go back to your you know how you said it'd be your friends who would lead you astray more than your og Tell me something that your og Instilled into you as a young child that you feel that that helps you Guide your way even and you still use that even up to today this plane show I remember one of the things he used to say the most is always be slow to react be quick listen But I always be slow to react that was one thing I stood off so and tell me about an instance where? Cuz the devil come at you in so many different ways and tell me in a time where You remembered that in a certain situation and that helped you I Can't it's like I can't really talk too much about it Situation just don't have to be that was that was the main one like that's the one okay, okay, so I was like, you know man When I when I looked you up, you know, I seen you you did a project with Mexican OT, right? How did you and him even link up? We linked up? Um, I did a show. Um, let's do it.  You feel me like I bet so Let them do a show they plug me in with them and we got to chop it up He was like he's both on my music and I got his number from there and I was like, hey, you want to get on the song? You're like, yeah, you like here. Yeah, bro. You heard so from there He came to the studio. We got to chop it up more and brother real cool.  I'm like shit bet Man, just talking like you didn't millions of y'all didn't mean the views here Just recently like how that feel to you to really just rock out with him like that and to see the success of that So behind this brown still wrapping my head around the concept like I check my phone and be like 4.2 million streams on after music 5 million on on on Spotify Like this many people watch me for it But it's a blessing, right?  And let me tell you something man Nicky you dealing with a real boss and some real money and some real real record label This is not no game nigga This is good stuff to me like I was happy when I heard about it But I like down that boy that but be hard boy that you see something that because they think so far out When they doing what they do they don't just pick anybody these niggas is really a slim and bird man Them niggas is focused man.  You feel me? Well, cuz it you know just because you sign people don't realize that they get it twisted You got to now put that work in and show that you deserve to be in that position And I think a lot of time people take it lightly and just because they feel like man, you know, I Signed you know what I'm saying a lot of times you you see people missing an action cuz they don't apply themselves Or they don't know how to maneuver in that world and they don't even want to talk about that part They think that just because you sign to label that's gonna do the whole job It's a lot of work to come behind it like you said so I agree with you totally, you know what I'm saying So when you think about like just just a whole you did work. Hey, you got someone just so fat, too Yeah, I got few songs just you're early on or how long ago did you guys? I got it after after I shot on after it was after I signed it was like after I shot on pillow talk song Wait, okay, man. He went there and let him together 16 hour drive. Wow Just locked in chopped up everything for me. Yeah, real solid Wow, of course We don't have them on here a couple of times. I love the fact that I was in a jail He just be a wild and out and it go wild out. That's what he gonna do. You know, I'm saying I came down there I think he introduced me to a little chair shot a little chair You know like all that this whole little circle, man I love to see all them, you know see everybody just getting to it I'm one of them guys just peeking around the corner to see what you young niggas doing You know, I'm not coming in the club with your nigga.  Like what was that all about? I Can't stand. Let me just break it down from the beginning. Let's break it down how the song was made. I Can't stand the nigga that pillow talk about anybody situation about anybody to somebody else You feel me somebody that just man.  You feel me? I don't even be trying to be carrying or none of that like I just be chilling But it's just the fact that something like that to give back to me But I gotta understand now like, you know, that's stuff that's gonna happen. It's gonna be people like that. You feel me so Okay So how to so how the song came but I'm just like I went in then I'm hearing it I'm here to beat the beat talking to me.  You're gonna die for that.  You feel me then I'm like, bro The the people I hear on here the most at first I the person out here on there the most was on OT and my boy rose. I'm to my rose so hard. Okay. Okay, and you know, I got introduced to my boy, baby K baby kill summer.   We actually got a whole little tape. Okay. I don't want to talk That's what's calm on the talk. It's gonna be coming for you. I don't see that. Okay. Okay. Me first Cuz my boy too hard like yeah, I got it him. Yeah, yeah rose so so, um Like I'm gonna put him on here there baby cage shredded them up for the OT back door.  So it's just crazy the way, you know Things work sometimes the atmosphere just locked things in the place boy You just in the right place at the right time and making you know making it work But you know, the thing is to keep it going and keep working like you said it's just the beginning So at the end of the day, it's crazy man. Tell me how I was losing trigger like like how was it man? Like what what happened just run me down through their own just you and his relationship Damn The show so Me and trigger started sack boys. You feel me before I got locked up. I was gone for 2017 and 2019 I got locked up when I was 15 turn 16. So when I got locked up, I'm all the way They took me all the way to Fort Bend County, Juvenile. So when I went to Juvenile far away from home It's not here. It's County. You feel me.  I don't know a bunch of people I don't know.  He got his own thing going on. It's almost not there in Richmond, Roseburg and everything You feel me and niggas just know we as niggas is talking about you feel me So once we first seen each other, you know, you got this nigga right here.  So, you know off the rip. We ain't gonna click in so it's awesome He looking at me.   You feel me so we solid though So I'm in that right now. I'm working on a song.     So I get the rendered again and she was like, what's your son?  I was telling him Katie because when I got locked up I was I was part of this group young sack chaser. You feel me? Okay? So when it was just a chance when I got locked up, you know, a lot of people Wanted to do their own thing a lot of people want to go this direction in this direction and all that so I'm getting older.   You feel me?   So I was like, I want to be sack boy. Katie, you feel me? So what does tax mean sack bag? Because the way how you spell it. That's why I was like doesn't have a different meaning So Man lost up bomb.  I told him I'm a sack boy. You feel me?  You feel me?  That's love. You feel me? So um, keep in mind we we in juvenile like I'm 16 now You feel me? We've been in here. So we rocked out together. We've been just shitting out. You feel me? We can hit the sack box get locked up.   He was already out So the first thing like he the first person to bring me some he brought me some true legend slides. You feel me? I'm rocking rocking with you. I'm a full blown house red. So and y'all made locked up like that Mm-hmm. So so y'all really locked the Indian music together Now go you and now trying to brighten everything and just built a hell of a relationship. That's hard.  You feel me?   I don't want But when you get out how did how does he end up, you know getting I'm finna say so like You know so um He gave me some true legend slides and she liked that we get locked in here Introduced me to everybody over there introduced me to everybody and they say introduced me to all his family members You know, I chopped up with his mom out and chopped up everybody over there He didn't put a bunch of names and Richard Roseburg on my music like that's that's one of my biggest fanbases over there on that side Wow, cuz he he calls in because of him. That's big. Yeah, so Time fly I'm over there like I don't throw it for a little bit I move in with the candy lady like I'm I'm sleeping on her couch you feel me? This is before I get my own spot. I move in with the candy lady and You know, he hit me one day.  Let's drink you feel me? And I'm like, all right Let me see what I can do right quick. Let me see because I'm on color So I can't drink like that. You know what I'm saying?  I'm like, all right, but I never hit him back I get a car in the middle of the night and shit, you know That's saying you got shot and all that so Yeah, so he got shot in his neighborhood Yeah, that's crazy.  It's sorry for your loss, man I'm sorry. I don't know stop. That's why I said no You got to do it now. You carry on your shoulder. That's the whole game God that sometimes go through something just so God can tell you hey You want to take this to wake up this here right here?  Stop playing. So you say you got locked up at what 1617 1515 turn 16 So, what did you get locked up for? Um, I can say no, I had um, I had through the council at Rob source us on public servants and by Le'anger, but you know time fast by I Don't I don't know if I could talk about the details of my cases But just you guys locked up and at the end of the day, you know you you but you did your time And you know, that's the main thing. How much time did you do like three years three or four years? I did I was like the from 2017 to 2019 then I was on hospital as four years. Yeah, then I signed for seven years of probation And I'm currently doing seven years of probation right now. Talk to me about 54 songs in 21 days 54 songs into 21 days my boy swag shot to my boy swag shot type of go management Justin you feel me so I came about Before before I signed a little bit before I signed we was in there It was me and swag and my boy bug sack boy bug So we move out the king where they wanted me in a better environment you feel me So when I get the king would I might tell it's just me and him And me him and swag so with the studio like not that far the studio was like what 20 minutes way They're like 20 minutes away They have me in a better environment because they want me to be in the trap.   You feel me? So we in the studio every day, you know swag like hey, let's do this. Let's do that. We're together We are what's the way I'm looking for? Um Mm-hmm. Yeah, so we Yeah, so it's just me Cartier that's that's the producer.  Hey, okay it's me Cartier my boy bug and It's swag and he also introduced me to people having people come to the studio and everything Well, I'm a grime. Oh, you give them I'm saying we in there every day We're cooking up one song two song three songs. I'm not leaving till like what is it? Todd is here. We can't leave it to my stand in this all night. Yeah Let's go No, I'm talking about let's go we ain't going nowhere.  She's like about it. We got one more. Come on. We got to get this one here He like man. Yeah, he like I just um put a hook He like put a hook and put a um put a hook and put a verse on that Then we're gonna be finished you feel me then we don't that he like hey, you know what you can you put another verse on But that's work though. You're proud of it after you guys got it done. No way. Oh, yeah That's a lot of songs In 21 days, man, that's hard man So how you and Mexican OT like you guys y'all got so many songs together, man Like what how did y'all get so many just he just loved working with you.  Let's break down a few of them like uh, do or do boy What is that all about?  I'm talking about man that and then he like I said, yeah He just be going and going and going man and at the end of the day and he just say y'all just stay Locked in y'all still locked in to the day y'all gonna work some more together Probably so probably not probably so busy like y'all both be busy. Wow Well, it but it but you got that working. What's up with Gucci rules Gucci rugs.    That's Gucci rules My shit, let's talk about it. We go. I'm gonna keep talking about him. I ain't gonna Creeping let's talk about it. What was that all about? I'll be lurking. Yeah That creepy when I was one Yeah, yeah Then it's like it's like it's like how I start up how to build up on that. You feel me? Yeah I like them.  Yeah But but just talking with the biggest one, right? Just that's the one that really is that the one that put a lot of eyesight like people start talking to you and Who is this one right here? Have you like lately? Have you been able to link up with mexican ot like y'all hadn't talked on the phone nothing no more been so busy like Yeah, so when the last time y'all talk Um, what was that last show the last show he did? Um Not the last last show he did the last show he did at um at What it's called on the concert pool. Okay, the concert pool. We chopped it up. We chopped it up there at um Because after I was at gold club Houston, so Went there after you know snap the patient chopped it up for a second That was last time we talked man I hope you guys will be able to because y'all had a good chemistry And I just want to make sure you guys keep on working together and keep on dropping some I want to see y'all both blow and get you know Just get together because it'd be easy then just gonna have to be some talk between labels And they all go after it's different with your own labels now You niggas was running around here by y'all self talking about just talking and all it now Nigga everybody want to hear what you niggas talking about. You know what I'm saying? It's the same no more But you never forget the start of everything, you know So you was the type I talked to the rest of the show and we I talked to a few people man to talk like that I always mention him because that's my guy but Going out booking your own shows and paying to get on different shows How hard was that ground when you first, you know start getting into trying to you know get people to know this? man I ain't gonna lie that shit was hard But like just having to like I will see I will see like a little post like I would get on Like club pages and stuff like that. That's how dedicated I was like before I got off house Or is I knew I was going to get off house risk because I talked to my attorney and stuff So I was looking up like a little club pages and stuff like that Like a little after I was spicing, you know for me to DM them They never DM back and like their posts or something like I feel some type of and shit like that I've been coming since like check your DM you feel me like I'm trying to open up and try to do what I can you feel me then um It really started after I did that.   Well, you know eventually I'm looking down. I got tunnel because I'm looking down the end I'm like, you know eventually I'm gonna have sold out shows.  Hey, man. I'm trying to get a open up what I got to do How I got to get in there I would do whatever it takes for as long as it takes to make sure that I get us known You know cause trigger to everybody else is dependent on that. I owe that to them Exactly right if that wherever we're coming from exactly where it was coming from And that's what make it so hard and that's why come god keep blessing it You planted these seeds man and these seeds now starting to manifest and next thing you know, boom You know I'm saying you thinking man, you know, it just happened all you put a lot of work in 54 song god say I see you 21 day god say I see you you see what I'm saying paying for your shows getting in them DM God say I see those are seeds brother And that's what you were doing. So you were just creating a wave Who else would you like to work with you work with a Mexican ot you work with j.  What's that other boy named the little Hispanic boy from out there that everybody be telling me about Uh, what's the name? D baby, you didn't mess with him yet. We we're gonna we're gonna work. We're definitely gonna y'all gonna work Yeah, well, who else who else is out there? You know this that young this that 22 and under stop playing Who else out there? I'ma I'ma keep it all the way, which you know, like when they when it comes to the rap Like it's so many artists. Uh-huh.  I'll be like that. Who was that? Yeah I'll work with him. What's up? You favorite? Yeah, like that So how important is it to know your history? Like you you do you do know about the little kikis and you do know about the powwows and And all of the different the slim thugs the j-dolls all of that stuff that's happening around you But you you you have to understand that a wave has been you have big shoes to feel Like when you look at all them people from esg to you like bumbee and all those different people Man to get to know your history so that when you walk up on one of them and they see you Hey, man, I why I listen to your music when I you know stuff like that matters too, right? Hell, yeah, that's you see what I'm saying. Yeah, sir.  Stop playing man. The burger good is hell man. You know what? There too No, he'd be everywhere. He'd be busy But the younger generation they you know, they come in the end They know I'm saying but they got their own way of doing things We gotta respect it But you guys are who leading the way for the next generation, bro You know what I'm saying? So, you know top three artists of all time dead or alive any genre Any genre any job put me in that position. Everybody answer that question on here Top three artists of all time dead or alive any genre First Well, you already know I'm gonna give the pop Park man. You know that I'm gonna say man. That boy know about park man He come back on bottle 101 any time he need to you know, I gotta give the park. That's gonna be that's all Boom Damn, I got so many but Any genre you just got three Hmm Michael Jackson. Oh, yeah, that's one I regularly you just said the two most Popular popular too that we ever had on the show. I promise you number three This is the last one, huh?  I got to so you gotta rock out. No, it's not even that I just no Yeah, yeah That's your label mate now It sound crazy It is what it is. That's your label mate now Them boys is history Them boys and paved the way for a lot of music exactly from Texas to Louisiana So at the end of the day you an elite group So you just gotta make show That hey man, they don't never forget you when you go down through there You work your butt off and just like you've been doing and from the looks of it. It's definitely something that's going to be uh, it's definitely going to be uh um Remember but what you got big dog Look with who a little pat. Okay. Let's talk about that. We gotta get that in I can cut that part out No, you can yeah, we good that We better shut it down. So we need to get that in here. Okay. Let's talk about this. Is this a new song? Yeah, this one is just what's the name of the song? It's called candy. Okay. I don't know all platforms It's where my boy little pat and it and it went hard.  No, that's the one we just did y'all redone that yeah, you y'all niggas don't know nothing about that, man Y'all y'all may not be a messed up folk song That's why you gotta hear man.  I want to hear that now. You got me. Hey, I'm gonna see when the individuals coming with it Oh, yes, I'll tell you you gotta check it out. The vision's already out. No, not yet. It's coming, but it's gonna be weird See you can't even play it man.  I can't even play a game, but I promise it's coming It's coming. I don't want to promise it then it don't come that day. You feel it, but it's coming. Yeah, sir That's man. I love it. Y'all already shot it. I already shot it. Who shot it? Um prophecy films, right? That's my nigga. He been on here Prophecy is a beast I'm the only one ever to interview prophecy.  That's my guy But yeah, that nigga go hard too. He gonna put that that video gonna be right crisp.  Or just say about you. I want people to know like Bro, I came well, you know, it's a lot of people that come from the bottom of the bottom, you know But it's not where so where you come from is where you end it man I want people to see From the time from this right here to this you feel me and we not even anything yet That's right But I just want people to understand and the hard work and then join the journey through the process Man, hey man, I hear you mentioned God earlier. How important is God in your life?  Wow. I want to be here without him That's coming from a young man. Y'all better. Hey relax and take notes. That's what that big nigga said No, that's real bro. Thank you so much for coming on the show man How can people get a hold to you? You can get a hold of me on all platforms It's a x k b o y k b you search it on google You're gonna see first artist sign with calves one in the state of Texas You're gonna see a tap in sac what's for life and trigger we trust sexy me Check it man. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 where the bosses talk. Oh, yeah


Hi and welcome to the session. Let us discuss the following question. The question says, if p having coordinates 2 minus 3 is the midpoint of the joining of a having coordinate 7a and b having coordinates b minus 1, find a and b. Now, begin with the solution. First of all, we should know the section formula. In section formula, coordinates of point p dividing the line segment joining the points a and b, internally in the ratio m1 is to m2 are driven by m1 x2 plus m2 x1 divided by m1 plus m2 divided by 2 plus m2 y1 divided by m1 plus m2. Point of a b, a is having coordinate 7a and b is having coordinates b minus 1. We have to find the value of a and b. Point of a b, therefore it divides a b in the ratio 1 is to 1 and thus it means m1 is equal to 1 and m2 is also equal to 1. Now here, e m2 is equal to 1, x1 is equal to 7, mb is equal to minus 3.


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My name is Umarsila. I'm the head of the secretariat of the Global Land Tool Network based in Nairobi. I mean, it's wonderful to be in Abidjan to attend this African Land Policy Center conference. It is a very critical moment for us to take stock on the implementation of the African Land Policy Declaration and to see how far member states have gone to address the issue of land governance, but also to really assess, you know, the weaknesses and the challenges that they are facing toward improving land governance in Africa. It is timely because right now you have a new framework, which is the SDGs, but also you are all stick to the African Vision 2063. I think it's an important moment to see how to carry forward this momentum and make sure at least the land governance part and parcel of this process of transformation for Africa. So overall, the key takeaway for me, I mean, we realize that there's more work that needs to be done for access for youth to land, and which is normal because Africa continent is crippling with a lot of migration, illegal or legal one, and people are traveling, want to get out of rural area, and this undermining the production factor in Africa, but at the same time exposing young generation should contribute to harnessing, you know, the development in Africa. Another takeaway, women's land rights, as you may know it, GL10 took advantage of this important moment as well to launch a gender strategy to build on what had been done already in Africa, but also to leverage more partnership toward achieving, you know, the gender equalization in terms of access to land rights. And this transpired in all conversation during this week, and I believe that this will give us more strength, but also more resources to get together with African Union and to deal with these issues at different level, global level, regional level, country level. The other takeaway from this conference as well is the importance of land and peace and stability because we know that Africa is exposed to the risk of conflict, derivating from this competition around scale resources, around land and natural resources. So I think this is an opportunity for the African Union and as I mentioned in Africa including the REX to get ready to really address the issue of land as a factor in stability in Africa. Our question is how to turn this as an opportunity to leverage more investment to foster social cohesion but also to give more livelihood opportunity to youth and women at the rural and urban level, knowing that Africa as well is moving into a rapid trend of urbanization. Those are some reflections of this conference and we hope that the final declaration will give us another milestone for partners, for stakeholders to get together to boost this land agenda in Africa for the benefit of poor people, for the benefit of peace and stability, for the benefit of combating climate change in the continent.


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