Hello and welcome to episode 23 of the Bitcoin show we're just racking them up It's like a slot machine ding ding ding ding. Yeah another episode. Oh my gosh We skipped one yesterday because we have one tonight I'm Bruce Wagner. This is many men and today our special guest is from you have heard of it You may not have seen him or heard of him, but bit bills calm Doug welcome. Thank you. So So tell us First of all, we got to thank our sponsors. I'm sorry. I always forget, but we can't forget our sponsors We want you to get you guys to contact them and thank them for bringing us to you every day Mezi Grill is the world's first restaurant brick and mortar restaurant that accepts Bitcoin and they have the most Amazing Mediterranean food they now serving breakfast. We eat there three times a week We love Marwan go in and see mezi grill.com me zee grill.com. 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So bit bills are a way to hold bitcoins, you know, bitcoins are really great for you for using and spending bitcoins a great are there a great way of spending money online and When you have your computer, it's kind of the most secure way and the easiest and cheapest way to send money online But the second you lose your internet connection or you go offline you can't use them so it bit bills what we've done is taking the private key which is sort of the meat behind the bitcoin and Encoded it in a QR code and then it's embedded inside of this card So this can be handed off from person to person and use just like cash so but it's really a bit coin So the private and so basically the private key is the secret part of the Bitcoin That's like the password that unlocks the actual value to spend the ability. Yeah, it's what allows you to Sign off a new owner of the Bitcoin So then the Bitcoin network knows to only accept bitcoins from that new owner Okay, and so and that's inside this this secret seal. Oops. So They're actually denominated. These are denominated as what one Bitcoin one five ten twenty. Yeah, that's right Okay So the idea is that you could actually buy bitcoins and store them this way and you could also transact this way if I wanted if You're willing to accept bitcoins. I could just say here. Here's a bit coin. Exactly. All right So it's a physical implementation. So these are said values and when you buy these on our site, you know You'd you pay five bitcoins for a five Bitcoin card plus a little small fee and then for the life of this card It'll always be worth five bitcoins until it's eventually redeemed The card doesn't tell me how much a Bitcoin is worth But you have to figure that out ourselves But but but the this the private key I see it's sealed under a safety seal and all that Is there any way to to like read through that or absolutely not so we've actually had x-rays made of these cards And there's no way to read the QR code without actually cracking open the card and when you do that, obviously you destroy the card Oh, I'm at an MRI Next we x-rays first that memorize That's interesting that you would even go to extra step to verify that yeah, well a lot of people a lot of people we know We didn't we thought maybe a bright light or something but a lot of people thought oh no We got to do x-rays. So we tried the x-rays couldn't do it. That's pretty awesome What did he do you did that a doctor's office or something? No, we knew an expert in the field. So we had to do it Oh, that's how I would have waited till I went to my dentist and I had to have a checkup anyway So you x-ray this or a poet at my mouth We actually have some great pictures of it. So they'll be on our website in it within a couple weeks. Oh, that'd be awesome I think people would like to check that out and that also build confidence and you know the actual bill I mean, there's not much to see because we can't see it. You can't see it but you know well we we've talked before Doug and I and I was really impressed with you know I mean, I understand the concept the idea that what you don't really go into like when you have a hotdog You don't really think about how it's manufactured. So the the factory basically the concept of how these are manufactured There's so much care has to go into it because that's right There's the slightest mistake as as you pointed out like if it were if you're manufacturing them and Somehow they got out of sequence the private key for this card applied to the actual public key of this card And they got out of skew somehow then Someone would actually if they redeemed if I redeemed my card I'd actually be redeeming your value which would be disastrous. That was the super high security product so that You triple check everything you personally oversee all of the private keys and how are they manufactured right right? Yeah, yeah, the key to it really is just testing testing testing There's we push these through in batches and every batch we figure out Is there a way that we can test to make sure that everything is exactly what it's supposed to be? And so that happens at least five times before the cards out of our doors And you just see the public key and the private key that they match and that the values there and all those things Yeah, exactly, and it's easy to check fortunately So it's it's really bad if we make a mistake, but it's easy enough to check that no we keep it secure That's good And then for the actual bit bills is there like error tolerance built in so that maybe if they want to redeem it like five Years later, and you know there's some wear and tear on the card These should be durable for for much more than five years and definitely Definitely no problem. If it gets damaged a little bit. There's there's error tolerance built into the QR code Okay, and it's also completely laminated and waterproof and sealed. So awesome No way to actually move this sticker And how would you remove the sticker if you had to you don't have to show us But so just to give a little more explanation if you haven't read the details on our website There's a few layers to the card So there's this substrate in the middle which is sort of the blank that has the design and then also the address QR code Mm-hmm, and then on top of that is the square private key QR code. Yeah, and that's separately laminated So it's it's a very very durable process just inside of that square itself We know regardless of the card then on top of that goes the security hologram Which obviously blocks the face of the QR code and then finally the whole card is laminated separately and so it comes out It's really nice hard plastic card, but really There's a few layers here And so when you go to redeem it you cut it out open and the layers all come apart and you're left with just the QR code that you Can go to redeem interesting so it's a great concept If it like I mean if you carried it around in your wallet like I carry cards and run on my wallet So they just disintegrate but if you literally carried it around and you know it got all bent up and everything Mm-hmm It wouldn't damage it and until like if you actually broke it or cut it Right then the layers would just fall apart, but you'd still be able to you'd still so in fact if you have scissors I'd be happy to cut one open really after a break or okay. We'll grab some scissors To play with it before this this is cut to to signify that I yeah, but this one's invalidated But is there a fortune inside like a fortune cookie? I want to see What that with the estimated price of a Bitcoin is by the time you open it that would be interesting so Let's see what else Like what how did you figure out the manufacturing process that you've come up with? It's let's see. I know you guys are like here We actually these ones We have designated ones that we use for testing so this one included and you can try before we break it open You can try flexing it. These are actually more durable. There's there's a few different card technologies out there A big one is PVC That's like your credit card is and this this process is actually more durable than those cards Yeah, I was noticing that usually a credit card would bend and you can see visible creases in there. That's right Yeah, you with this you can't see any of that. This this will Bend it okay. Oh wow That is crazy. I look hard. You will see like it's starting to form Like ten times and you've got two cards exactly. Oh, yeah, you can make this ugly, but it'll stay intact It's crazy Let's see It's like in bend and bend and bend I Can see what you mean. It's more durable because it's got the multiple layers. That's right. Yeah It's not just one piece of material that will weaken Like I could break that with me. It would take a long time and a lot of bending That's right So when you are ready to do redeem it and you do want to break it open You just take a pair of scissors and again These are these aren't made to be redeemed instantly These are supposed to be durable cards that can be stored and you can keep your bitcoins safe and trade with them if you like but they do eventually Come to somebody who wants to redeem them. So I'll try to show the camera here. Once a bit clean is worth $10,000. I want to buy a car with that one Bitcoin.  You have special people with scissors that just do this I mean they have resale value because a lot of people have digital bitcoins, but they want bit bills. So Basically exchange it for somebody that wants a same denomination you send them those that's awesome Obviously we sell the new ones all have a small fee on them But we take the used ones and we don't even have to cut them open because there's always somebody who Yeah for face value. So I've cut this open now and It's in a few layers. So I'm peeling this apart in this square now inside of here is the private key QR code It's just still has the hologram on it, but other than that That's that's it. So if I peel off the hologram and I hold it up the camera Then the first one to claim it will get a Bitcoin This one not this is not this one and that's in fact why it's marked with this cut through it And let's cut through the seal off. Is it is it hard to do? No, no, go ahead. I don't know And you have to have fingernails and scissors. That's right, but I could do it yourself This comes off. It's amazing as high-tech as Bitcoin is We go so low-tech to get it down into this into the physical. Yeah, just I mean, it's amazing. That's how people gravitate. Yeah, yeah I mean we have meetings and we have notepads in paper because there's no better way to take notes That's right, and I've gotten half the the hologram off and you can see the QR code underneath there With a little more work, you know, you can take the whole thing off By peeling it off you can't damage the the QR code like it's not no, it's that's That's all that's a material made of it underneath there. Is this PVC the the car? No, it's not it's a special plastic substrate that when it Is with the plastic it's like a force so the plastic actually goes into the pores and forms one solid plastic chip Essentially that has that QR code on it. Wow. This is awesome. So you're an MIT genius, right? I don't know but that's a modest Maybe he's you're an MIT graduate. That's right. I go to school at MIT and that's where I live for the most of the year But yeah, and I'm working on bit bills is mostly out of Cambridge out of Boston It should be your thesis right Since it's already done. That's fantastic. That's my gosh That's yeah, I mean there there have been other projects to to that you can obviously you can print a public or private key and things like that but to obscure it in a really effective way that's this Immune to damage and even water you could go scuba diving with these things in your pocket And even though there's all this awesome technology in it kind of the coolest thing about it It's just like you tell to somebody who doesn't understand the technology and they can hold it And they just know that like this is a Bitcoin and it's worth one Bitcoin and they can go online and see what it's worth in dollars And you know that's that's what it is. This is huge, especially right now because there's so much concern with security You know, and how do I store my bitcoins? Right? You you know the thing is that These are wonderful for trading and for small amounts and introducing people to bitcoins over abroad You could say here here's 20 bucks. Here's a bit coin. You know here you go There's that's a bitcoins a physical Bitcoin. So But the problem is there are some people who were early adopters who now have like a significant amount of money Yeah in Bitcoin form and They don't you know, whatever say they have a thousand bitcoins or 10,000 bitcoins or whatever They don't want 10,000 cards, right?  That's not really practical So have you got a solution for that? Yeah, absolutely We announced it just this week and it's something we've been working on a long time We really wanted to get it right but what we have we're calling it a bank card and this is just a prototype The final design is a little bit different And this is made out of metal. So as durable as these are made out of plastic and with the sealed hologram These are metal. So this this would withstand fire. It's just pretty cool Is there a way that I could show that up to the camera? So this this has the public key and the private key on it and this to our code is visible This this one doesn't have a balance on it. So don't bother trying to redeem it You buy this from us on our website and it's not gonna focus So this is kind of a vault that you can use to keep your bitcoins But you can then add bitcoins to it by sending them to the address and as long as you keep that card in a safe spot Like in your house or a safety deposit box, maybe it's such a brilliant idea So the private key on this is not obscured So you definitely don't carry it around and show people right because anybody with a camera phone Go up and I just took your value. That's right. Just with a photo. I could snap your value out of it But but so you have to keep it hidden you put it inside of an envelope like that's right It's gonna come it comes with a sticker and in an envelope So even if you are walking around yeah, and so you put in your safety deposit box or bury it in the box Backyard whatever you would normally do with the box full of cash, but it or a bar of gold or something But the idea then is that then you can keep you have another it comes with another card that has the public address That's right So you can keep that in your address book in your normal Bitcoin app or whatever And then if you want to put half your paycheck into Bitcoin every week like one of our guys does You can literally just send bitcoins to that address Without ever taking the card out of the out of the safety deposit box or bear digging it up for the backyard Send it to that address and you're done like magic. That's right And I know you call it a bank card right when I first read that I was like bank card I immediately thought of a credit card that what it's more like a deposit. I think of it So I'm gonna call it a piggy bank card Because it's it's a it's like a piggy bank with a slot that you can but the slot is detachable So you can take the slot and leave it on your computer and then bury the bank and it's actually like magically connected, right? But everything we like to think that everything you might have needed a big bank for before to have a Vault that you keep dollars in. Oh, it's now in a car Put as much money as you want on it and then go and redeem it all at once It's a personal bank. Yeah, you're on personally by you But you can't spend the money out of it unless you have the private keys So if you it's like a maybe like a savings plan because perfect for a savings plan Because like I said, you just keep depositing as soon as you want to make a withdrawal Right, okay. I'm really hard up. I need some money or I I decided I finally have enough to buy that yacht or whatever Then you just take the card out and then how do you redeem it with the private key then sure So you can scan the QR code in and right now There's there's a client built by SIPA who's a community member that that'll take the QR code And now there's also an even easier thing It's a Python tool that it's a little program that you run and it just puts the coins right in your wallet from the QR code Okay, so it's for the lay people you say there's a client so you mean there's an app Yeah, exactly. It's a program just like the Bitcoin program you run on your computer And but it's a little different version that you can hold this up to it And it'll take the QR code and where's the safest place to get that app Because that's to be a has to be a safe source You don't just download any old app because the app could itself could be a virus that's designed to steal your money Yeah, so you got to make sure it's a very We're talking about redemption that's back up. So for these guys, too It's the same exact process It's a private key and then actually we're working on a tool that'll be on our website And it should be up by the end of the week or by Monday Where you can just hold it up to your webcam and it scans it in and you'll have them instantly at an address that you type in So, you know, you do you do one and you can make sure that it goes into and everything's in your address book And it's all secured. It's um we use you know industry grade server production. So You know, there's no and there's also no money stored on the server. It's all a transaction that goes through right away It's not like that gox where yeah, you know, it's not just it's not an artificial ledger It's really just a transaction that gets encoded and put right out of the blockchain, right? And so you can use the same tool that's on our website for redeeming these but if you want to do it offline, which is also a great option you can use one of these other clients and They're signed and thereby reputable community members But for an absolute total novice the safest way Or one safe way would be just to go to bit bills comm. That's right There's an app you can click a link there and it'll it'll launch The viewer for their webcam and they can just hold it up the revenue Is there any way that the app like some sort of man in the middle attack or something some sort of virus could capture your image No, so it's actually completely encrypted end-to-end. Oh, so it's we've worked really hard on this In fact, we announced it a couple months ago or a month and a half ago And it we've been still working on it because we just want to make sure we get security absolutely tight and locked down This is brilliant.  No more liability. I told you he's an MIT genius and who wouldn't trust this guy? I mean, that's just so smart. It's absolutely so smart It's exactly what people need because you know, there's we're making a video to teach people how to which we've talked about Because you know me with the recipe problem. Yeah, I mean people need a way to secure the bitcoins without Necessarily trusting some guy on the cloud and you know, you don't even know we don't even know their real names or whatever, you know these these people so Actually, trust them here. You want to trust yourself. Yeah, and encrypting is a smart step He's imagine all the people that do Any sort of transactions in internet cafes and then anybody who has even a little bit of knowledge could just snoop in on that Traffic and then you know capture the private key. Absolutely. So everything's encrypted. It's yeah, that's brilliant So basically with the with the bank card I mean the the denominated cards are great for introducing friends and family and Gifts so I can imagine stocking stuffers. I mean a million definitely trade you want to use this because it has the value marked Right, of course It's the value marked and also it's the good, you know It's more secured the private key because this is just gonna be a sticker on this one This is specifically designed to hold. Oh, and it's got it's not gonna have the private key on the front like that Is it no it does it has both a text version of the private key and a qr version, but it'll be sealed So yeah, both stickers over them. Oh, I see. Okay, and it's also an envelope. So so that's brilliant It's just like oh my gosh, it's a pass card to your savings Would you recommend that people have multiple versions of this to not put them all under one? So there is a real not just in case they're all gonna be just to secure And you can even check that you know, it's it's a hundred percent secure The reason you want to have multiple though is because you have to redeem them all at once and the security once you get that online It's it's now online again. So it's just not as secure as when it's completely offline So this way what you can do is keep, you know Maybe you're backup backup savings on one that you never redeem But then for day-to-day purposes you deposit to one that you maybe cash out when it's time to pay the rent Right something like that. So you got multiple savings accounts and different in a way because these are denominations of you know one five ten twenty and that's great But if if Bitcoin becomes worth a thousand dollars God knows what we're adjusting we have a point five Bitcoin card that's coming out very soon You're gonna have to adjust fast if the price keeps changing But if it does then what's gonna happen is those are gonna be like huge amounts And you're gonna have to adjust down and all that but with this you can actually have multiple Maybe you should summon different colors that we could we do actually we have your different colors This is aluminum. We also have brass. Oh my god. It's gonna be a little bit more, but it's it's very Platinum gold silver and but yeah, because then you get the blue with the black and the black Oh, gold would be awesome because it has value from the gold and value from the big There you go. Exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean not real gold. It's gold color, right? Oh, I said brass brass Gold yeah, that's a whole nother product But but I love that because then you can have you know your life savings and your you know smaller Denominations for different purposes different savings for different purposes. That's right You know Christmas savings with this of that or whatever the heck it is you're saving for And like you say different denominations if you want to short-term savings long-term savings however you want to view it Yeah, that's very clever and and also when you want to redeem it You want to redeem the smallest Denomination that would be efficient for what you're doing. Sure. This is brilliant because you know We can create a video that someone can go through You know 30 minutes or an hour of you know work with a PC and wipe the hard drive and all this technical stuff But you know giving this to someone and saying that's it you just click and this is the address No, this is scannable But like if I want to if I have this card and I want to use the standard client Do I have to type in the public address? So the easiest way is if you have a webcam You can just hold it in and then beeps and then it's in yeah We do the text is on there as a backup so that if if you know you're in a pinch You don't have a webcam. There's always that fallback. So, you know the webcam would scan it and then it would That's to redeem it. That's right What if I want to make deposits into it? Okay. Oh, then the easiest way is probably with my Scanner app on my phone to scan it in that's right Email it to myself and I've got once I've got it in my address book It's there forever and I could just send it to it regularly I could probably memorize at least the last four or six digits, and I know for sure that's the right one In fact, what you buy these you know, we might even just email you the address. Yeah, that's a good idea, right? Right, you know, you give us your email We we take one of these sets that has the bank card and then the also the pay card and so Email you the address while we know yeah, because there's no but nothing that anyone can really do with it except for send your money Track your savings, of course they could check your balance, but you know But still that it's a lot less risky than taking it at least If it's an email that's secure, and it's coming straight to you then you know, right? That's not decided, but that's something we could do and also you have the pay card So even if this is locked away somewhere that's hard to access you always have that other card You can use or maybe having it emailed to you could be optional for those people who you know Sure would have trouble scanning it or something sure. Yeah, that's a brilliant idea. Well. Thank you so much for joining us today We really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy life in the Bitcoin physical manufacturing world It's actually very handy because I was explaining to him I never thought of actually holding a Bitcoin, but I've explained it to many people like so you can't hold it You can't touch it. I was just about to ask you that I was like I'm very excited to see some bitcoins And I can't see them now. Yeah, it's such a clever idea. Yeah, it's great Are the new models gonna look different than these these are these prototypes are they gonna look at all different? Yeah, so this prototype is it's a prototype and the new one we actually we're not gonna have a QR of the address That's because that's already on the pay card and instead we're increasing the size of the private key making it even more redundant And then this is also sort of a rough cut, but the the final ones They're much more precise tooling so they they come out a lot nicer. Well, what about the denominated ones? Are they gonna change in appearance at all? Oh, yeah, so this is still the first version that we never released a couple months ago and We have some changes coming. We have new dominations coming point five We the first one and then we also down the road a little bit We'll have new holograms and just we're incrementing the security and we're gonna try to keep incrementing the security to keep up with I'm gonna start doing a point one It's coming Over a dollar and the great thing about our company in general is like As a recent we've gotten the production to the point where we can now turn these things out And so before we had people asking for bulk orders and even just making large orders And it would take a week before we could fulfill it But now that we have production in place we can really focus on you know I got another question. I just thought of is, you know, so many merchants are accepting Bitcoin now Are you doing? I don't you maybe haven't had time with all of the everything you are doing, but right I wonder if merchants need to be educated about what they look like like just have a visit from somebody to say look These are bitcoins. These are bit bills And you know, this is what a physical Bitcoin looks like and you can literally put this in the extra slot of your cash register And boom boom you can accept Bitcoin without any hardware internet anything. Yeah, it's a really good idea Yeah, I mean a food cart without Electricity could take bitcoins for hot dogs and coke literally as long as they're familiar with what they look like like Like any currency they need to understand what it looks like and if they're you know, they trust How can a merchant actually verify that it's not an artificial like a counterfeit? Sure So counterfeiting there's a lot of different security aspects of the cards counterfeiting is one and like we have these security holograms on here These can't be replicated. So so you can trust that it's from us It's it's also if you get one of these things The first thing you want to do is check the design check how it feels make sure that it's familiar to you After that when you if you really want to be sure and make sure it's not some kind of excellent counterfeit You'll check the holograms and we use the secure earth hologram and then this valid secure hologram Oh, I've got a great idea for you. Yeah, I'm always full of ideas You need to publish Like a laminated 8 and a half by 11 how to verify The authenticity of a bit a bit bill and merchants should be given one and maybe maybe a sample bit bill or whatever So that they can they know how to bear because everybody knows how to you know, hold a hundred dollar bill up Oh, yeah, the market and all that stuff They need to know how to recognize a valid one and it's it's like it would also be a good You know kind of an excuse to bring up conversation with them and explain because especially merchants who are already except Accepting Bitcoin like our sponsors, of course, they all take Bitcoin and more and more Tomorrow, I think it's tomorrow Friday. We're gonna have on the show Another restaurant in New York that accepts Bitcoin So they need to know about this because they even if they know about Bitcoin They might not know about bit bills and they certainly need to be able to accept those Have you run into any counterfeit bit bills before do you have like procedures in place to handle? We haven't run into any in the wild We've we've definitely tasked people with trying their hardest to counterfeit them and that's awesome I've not been able to but the next version we have a lot more security features And so when you're talking about that that chart it sounds like it'd be great for For the new version the new version because you know here the big thing is the hologram Which is easy enough to talk to people about but in the next version. We have some more hidden features Hidden features tell people is that going to drive up the cost or is the fees still gonna be the same? Well, so we're kind of trying to balance where we're ramping up production Which brings down the cost, but we're also ramping up security. So we're hoping fees. We just actually have the fees So we're hoping we'll be able to keep it at the new low you cut them in half Oh, yeah, okay in Bitcoin terms or dollar in Bitcoin terms. Okay. Okay. So Yeah, people have really asked for lower from the beginning they really loved them, but they wanted lower fees So now we have production up. We've been able to do it and we're hoping to do it again You know in Bitcoin was only, you know, six cents Big goals have been around. Yeah, only in though. Yeah, and then how much was it been around two months? That was a couple of dollars eight dollars. Yeah, five to eight dollars. Yeah, it's still almost doubled. So, right? Somebody's asking if you could print these on recyclable material recyclable material It's not something we've worked on yet because we really want to just make sure we have a hundred percent durability and Reliability but in the future absolutely Yeah, that's probably a secondary concern when it you know when it's money. We're talking about that's right Everything else can be recyclable, but money is pretty important Turn in for a deposit. Yeah, you get it. So it's made out of old soda cans Yeah, that's cool very very cool. Yeah. All right. So what are you gonna? What are you gonna come out with next? What's on the drawing board? So I mentioned a few things. We've got the redemption tool It'll be on the site. We've got the lower denomination the newer version of this and the bank cards, right a big thing Also is these come with payee cards, which which are those cards that just have the address on them Oh, and people really want those that they could just make for a private key. They already have so Maybe you already have an address that you use at your restaurant for doing business where people send coins for the meals You can come around with a card a metal card That's made just like this and and we'll even let you put your logo on it But it has a large QR code that people can scan their phone. So after the meal They just pull this out and they scan it and they can send you them So the server in the restaurant could just have it right there They're gonna end it with a bill instead of carrying around that caretta card terminal on their bell They can just pull this card out and say yeah, and they scan it and put it back in their pocket their holster Wow, that's great. So we're hoping that's probably in two to three weeks We're just working on getting the process down so that you can submit your own address and then also your own image and brand And that'll be a metal card too. So it's right It'll be metal just like even more durable than anything laminated plastic or anything else So just for you you could use it forever. Wow, that's very clever Cool.  That's fantastic There's a lot of stuff to do with bitcoins in the real world. So congratulations So is this taking up all your time now? Most of it. Yeah Yeah, and we've been working hard behind the scenes to the products are very visible But there's a lot to do in terms of keeping the company secure and making sure that you know We'll be able to keep doing this in ten years. Yeah, so and I know we talked about there was a time when You were just overwhelmed with orders and you couldn't you couldn't fulfill them fast enough, right? And you were so had so many back ordered and I know we talked about it, right and and About the idea of just like you had thought of you were you were so overwhelmed You're thinking about just stopping taking orders and I'm like I said, no just tell them it'll take six months or whatever it takes and So how did that work out? It worked well. So we put three months on the site just just to set the Expectations because we weren't sure how many more orders we'd be getting in But we've ramped up a ton and now all the orders that we had back ordered are shipped out So always promised less than you can deliver That's exactly what happens you put three months and now they're now you're up to real time So as soon as they order their ship right away within three days So like you could get it in a week. Wow, that's amazing. That's fantastic. So and are they are they coming from the US? That's right. Yeah, it's all shipped out of the US and shipping worldwide.  Yeah, so so most of them are United States, but we've also had some large orders We've we've had multiple orders in Belgium and in Germany and in France Nice, I won't say the country's we've had single orders from but there's a lot of those too Belgium Germany and France Belgium and what language are they speaking Belgium Belgium? France and what was the other country Germany? Yeah, Belgium. Yeah, cool We're talking about a launching a Bitcoin show and all these multiple languages So very interesting where the market is because there's no direct way to tell other than the like There've been studies on the analytics of the Bitcoin org site to see what percentage other take the Belgium speak French, maybe maybe Oh, it's probably Belgium. I think it's Belgian. It's like a combination of Portuguese Right. So anyway, cool. Well, it's very exciting You have to keep us informed for sure of all the new and developments as they happen. That's right We'll be we'll be definitely looking forward to it. Thank you. I want my I want a bank card When can I get one next week? Next week? That's right. Okay. I can order it today Sounds good. Oh, we don't have the order form up yet for the bank cards But it should be up later this week with the first one shipping out. Okay next week How much does a bank card cost? The price isn't finalized yet, but you know, it'll be it'll be competitive It'll be in bitcoins. You only accept bitcoins. That's right. It'll be a bit like we actually we're working on accepting dollars So that's another thing probably interesting a couple months on that So it almost be like an exchange Yeah, that's right. Well, actually one of the people we did not expect to be ordering these things are investors You don't know anything about Bitcoin. You just they want to they've heard about Bitcoin They think it's a great investment and they want an easy way to get into it So that would be the easiest way. Yeah You might need to go higher on denominations to the country And that's actually interesting especially bring out the cash option That's a new way to invest and you don't have to worry about computer security You don't have to worry about viruses or anything crazy like that. That's right Well, and it'll be adjusting live at the exchange rate. So you're just whatever the last trade prices Or there about is what you'll pay for the car and completely off topic But the official languages of Belgium are Dutch French and German That's great. Well, thank you so much Doug. Thank you. I really appreciate it. That's right. All right. See you guys


Five ways to make money from home during quarantine. You know, if I had done this video a couple years ago, you'd be like, well, what's that? Why are we doing that? Everybody knows now we've had a pandemic. Hey, that's pretty exciting. But the exciting part is you can make money from home right now. And I want to show you in this video how you can do it and you can capitalize on it and you can start right now. As a matter of fact, we're going to start the video right now. Hey, thanks so much for visiting my channel, checking out my videos. I really appreciate it. Don't forget to subscribe. Hit that big subscribe button down there. Make sure you turn it from red to gray. It will change colors. And then the bell is going to pop up. You'll want to ring the bell. You'll want to turn on all notifications. You will want to turn on all notifications so you can join my family, the Fisher family, the VIP group that gets notified every single time I do a video or I go live. Check out the bell. You got to ring the bell. Super important that you do that. Okay guys, now I want to talk to you about all these different ways you can make money online because there's a bunch of them now, but there are one, two, three, four, five, five that I think are really cool, really cool. Now I've been selling online since 2009. I've sold millions of dollars of both digital and physical products. And I'm here to tell you there's so many ways to make money online now. When I started in 2009, it was tough to make money online. There weren't so many tools. There weren't so many websites. There weren't so many avenues. And most people didn't want to spend money online because they didn't really trust it. They didn't like putting their credit card online. They were afraid of putting their personal information online. But then one day, everybody woke up and said, heck, my personal information is there anytime. Anytime I buy from a company, it goes online. So I might as well just get into the fold. We've all learned that our credit card numbers can be stolen and there can be false charges. It's happened to me. But I got to tell you, the credit card companies are pretty good.  So most people are willing to spend money online now. Now, if you've had some experience with that, put your comments below. Let me know if you've had your credit card stolen. Let me know if something's happened to you and put comments on things that you may be doing right now to make money online. So let's pick the first one here. When I first started out, I was trying to sell cell phone cases. I was trying to buy a product and ship it out. And I wish this first one was available because it's so much easier and it's affiliate marketing. Affiliate marketing is awesome. Affiliate marketing can be done in so many different ways, but the cool thing about affiliate marketing is you don't have to have a product at all. It's not necessary. You can use a site like clickbank.com. Clickbank has hundreds of thousands of different offers there. They're gonna have the sales tools there for you. They're gonna have the emails that you're gonna need. They're gonna have the banners you need. They're gonna have everything you need to market that particular product. But the cool thing is you don't have to have the product. You don't have to sell the product. You don't have to process the credit card. All you do is drive traffic to a particular offer. When you drive traffic to that offer, if people buy that offer, whether it's purchase, you get paid on purchases or whether you get paid on driving clicks to that offer, you're just gonna get paid, which is a pretty cool thing. You don't have to ship it out. You don't have to deal with customer service. You don't have to deal with customers and you can make money. Okay, the next thing you can do is drop shipping. Where you don't really have to buy the product, you just sell the product. Once you sell the product, you're gonna collect the money. You're gonna send the order to the drop shipper. The drop shipper is actually gonna package it up, ship it out to the customer and you're gonna keep the difference. Most people will do this through a store like Shopify. They use the Shopify store and they'll integrate AliExpress through a software called Oberlo. Once Oberlo is installed, you can actually upload products to your Shopify store. Then you can actually sell those products and once a product is sold, you just send the order through Oberlo to that manufacturer and they actually ship it out to your customer. It's really that simple. The only thing you have to do is drive traffic to that particular offer, that particular product to earn the money. Now, as a manufacturer of survival food, we actually do drop shipping for a lot of our customers.  They will actually sell that particular product and then send us the order and then we actually ship out the order form. So we are a US drop shipper. If somebody wants to sell survival food, they can do it through our program where you become an affiliate and actually start selling our products. So that's one way you can go about it. We also drop ship products from other companies and we also use affiliate links. Now, my first thing I talked about was affiliate marketing. If you look in the description of this video right now, you will see affiliate links for Amazon.  Not a real big portion, but something.  So that's a pretty cool thing too that we do with affiliate marketing. So we're involved in the drop shipping in and also the affiliate marketing in. Now, I also have courses. Those courses are up on click banks as people can actually promote those courses and they can get a percentage of a sale once they send me a sale. So I'm involved in just about every aspect of affiliate marketing and drop shipping. The next thing you can do to earn money is through freelance projects. Now, freelance projects are simple jobs that you would do for another company. And I say simple, but they could be actually pretty complex depending on what your skills are. Maybe you're good at, you know, taking sales calls. Maybe you want to take sales calls at your house and that's what you want to do. You can actually get paid on a site like Upwork.com, Freelancer.com, Fiverr.com. Any of these sites will actually pay you and get you up with a company that wants to hire somebody. Maybe you could build websites. You can do that on any of these sites. Maybe you can do data entry. You can do any of that on these sites. Maybe you could do SEO. You could do that. There's so many different categories and so many different ways to make money on these freelancing sites nowadays. And if you're not good at one of these skills, my gosh, you can get good at one of them. You can go to YouTube and you could watch videos on any of these talents and get good at it and then go ahead and put your profile up on any of these sites. Now, I gotta tell you, I use these sites too. I recently used somebody on Upwork and I had found somebody on one of these freelance sites many years ago and been using them for many years, but they just weren't performing well. So I found another person on there and they've done a great job. They moved over a Magento site for me which is a pretty big e-commerce site. Very difficult work to do, but they were able to do it and get it done in pretty short order. And they charged me very little money. Now, this is somebody I hired in India who I've had really good experience with. I haven't really hired that many people in the United States to do these freelance jobs. They seem to be really expensive and they don't seem to wanna work with us as much as some of the people in the other countries. So it's up to you. You can hire people just in the US if you want, in Australia and the UK and Canada. You can select the country if you want. I prefer a lot of people in India to do technical type jobs because they do a great job for me. They're easier to work with and they cost me a whole lot less money too. So that's obviously a big point too. The next thing you can do is become a VA or virtual assistant. Now, this job is a great job for a lot of people and the reason it's a great job for a lot of people is you don't have to have a lot of special skills.  You know, I'll work with you an hour a day. I'll work with you five hours a day or I'll work 40 hours a week or whatever you want to offer these people and then you set the wage, whatever it is, $15 an hour, $30 an hour, $50 an hour. Of course, the wage is gonna be dependent upon what your skills are.  If somebody is maybe doing, you know, editing, word editing or writing sales letters for you or doing more technical type work, of course they're gonna earn more money. You can be a full-time virtual assistant. You can be a part-time virtual assistant. I will say you wanna be careful of the companies that hire you because some of the companies are not as reliable as others, they don't necessarily pay you on time like they should. I have a lot of people that work for us on a freelance basis. We've been around for 10 years. We always pay well. We always make sure that we give raises. We always take care of our people because we understand that those people are important to us. They're not just an employee. They're part of our company. They're part of the company that helps us build our company. So I wanna take care of them. I want them to know that I care about them. I want them to know that they're important to us and sure they gotta get their work done and all that but it's not just about the work. We understand they're a human being too. And we gotta treat them as such and treat them nicely. So if you are going to work on these sites, make sure that you get a job with a company that cares about you or an individual that cares about you. And if you see they don't, drop them. Okay, don't go to work for them. You don't have to do that. There's too many decent people out there to work for to work for somebody who just considers you a number or just an employee. The last part, probably one of the most important parts is writing content. Now content can be at all different levels. When I get content written, I like to use a site called Text Broker. I like Text Broker a lot because they have different levels of writers and I get the turnaround of work very, very fast and it's usually very, very good quality. So if you have a talent for writing, you wanna check out Text Broker. Now, if your talent is writing emails or if your talent is writing sales pages or ad copy or marketing, I would suggest you go more with something like Upwork or something like Fiverr because that's a more specialized thing. I've noticed that Text Broker is more along the lines of blogs, that type of thing. I use it for blogs. I'm sure there's all kinds of different texts that you can be written there. Content is so important and every company needs content now, even if they don't realize it, they need content, right? Obviously the ones that are on these sites know they need content. They hire people for that but really every company should be putting out some content now. If you wanna compete in this global market, it's really, really necessary. More so than it's ever been before. People don't just go to sites to buy products, they go there to do research, they go there to get information. If you go to a site like Food Network, you're gonna find all kinds of videos and recipes and content and that's why people go there. Do they buy other stuff when they're there? Most certainly they do but the main reason they're going there is for content. I know from my channel right here, this channel is all about content. It's about what I'm gonna provide to you, what I'm gonna teach you, what I'm gonna help you with. Do I have courses and higher level training? Of course I do. I'd love for you to buy it but I've got a free course below, don't forget. That's down there and it's a $97 course. You can get it absolutely free so you wanna check that out. I hope you enjoy this video. I hope you got a lot out of it. There's a lot of ways to make money now during quarantine and there will be in the future now too because people have figured out some of this stuff. They understand it's available now so they're more likely to hire you to do this stuff. They're more likely to need people to do this stuff and if you wanna get away from that job, right? If you wanna go work for yourself, the best way to do it is pick one of these five here. It's affiliate marketing, drop shipping, freelance projects, becoming a VA or writing content. Those are the top five that I would recommend. If you enjoyed this video, give me a thumbs up, thumbs down if you didn't like it. Give me a comment below. Let me know what you thought of it. Let me know if you have other subjects that you want to learn on. That's super important to me and if you have questions put that in the comments section too. As I mentioned there's a course down there, grab that, no credit card required. It's a click and learn course. So simple to do. If you haven't subscribed yet, you wanna subscribe. If you haven't done so yet, you wanna ring the bell, right? Ring the bell and you wanna turn on all bell notifications because when you do, you become part of the Fisher family. 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Welch chi'n gweithio i'r TV yw'r Eftan Newsyd. Eftan sydd wedi'u gwneud y gallwn gwneud yn y Algarff Torniwyr wedi'i gweithio'r Porto. Llywodraeth yn y Gweithio'r 21r ac 22r yn y Algarff. Mae'r wych yn 8 o'r clwch ar ddod. Mae'r gweithio yn y Gweithio'r Torniwyr yn y Gweithio'r Eftan. Mae'n gweithio'r Llywodraeth yn y Gweithio'r Beri ac Blackburn. Ond efallai'r gweithio ar Llywodraeth i ddod o'r gweithio bethau tyfu ar ddod o'r gweithio'n gweithio. A'r gweithio'r gweithio ar ddod o'r gweithio'r 90 o'r gweithio'r gweithio. Mae'r gweithio'r gweithio yn y Llywodraeth yn unig o ddod a'i'r gweithio. Yr Eftan Newsyd, sefydlu'r gweithio'r Llywodraeth ar gyfer gan y gwirionedd, bod hefyd yn cyd-feydd ymgredd o'r cyfrannu hynny, yw'r cyfrannu? A byddwn i'n gweithio'n tro bod y gataethau'r cyfrannu yw'r cyfrannu yn ffraith Llywodraeth. Mae'n gweithio'n cyfrannu i'r Smorth, ac mae'n ddysgu'n ddysgu'n gweithio, ond yw'r cyfrannu eich cyfrannu yn ei bod yn fawr o'r cyfrannu, roedd y cyfrannu ysbyt Dysgu'n cyfrannu hynny yw'r cyfrannu eich cyfrannu, Dyn yn eich gweithio yma, y dylai. Mae gweithio yma yn ymwneud yn Ysgol Robles. Ymwneud yn ymwneud ymwneud. A Ysgol Alisandro Brestoni. Efallai yn Ysgol Brestoni, mae'r hyn oedd yr ysgol yn ei gwyb. Rwy'n meddwl yma, felly mae'n gweithio yma ymwneud yma. Ymwneud yn ymwneud yn ymwneud ymwneud. Mae'n gweithio'r ymwneud. Ymwneud yn ymwneud yn ymwneud. Ymwneud yn ymwneud. Aberton yn sgolio am y deall, yn ymddangos ar y iawn i, ac yn eu'r ddau i'r Llancho. Ond efallai ei wneud, mae'n wneud yr adrwynt yn y ddweud, yn y ddweud ei ddweud wedi ddweud fy mhrif. Mae'n ddweud o'r ddotlund, ans yn yr Eiyan Llancho, ac mae efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai. Yn yw'n bwynt gwych, ac mae'n ddweud o'r ddodlund, ac mae'n ddodlund, mae'n ddodlund i'r ddodlund i'r ddodlund. probably just an easy story for someone to write. A story that's a little bit more interesting is Everton have been linked with Atlantea Knight, it's like a Joseph Martinez. Now I've seen a lot of Martinez. He's only small but he's very quick, scores a lot of goals. He was at Torino and went on loan to Atlantea. I think they bought him now but Everton have been linked with him. Don't know whether there's anything in it but he certainly wants to watch scores. A hell of a lot of goals in MLS. Very quick and got a good left foot. So it's one of them. Everton target or reported. Everton target, Andre Carillo scored for Peru today. Really, it was a good volley actually. He had a good game up, very, very dangerous. He obviously played under Michael Silver at Wafford. Ben Ffiker own the player and apparently bought 20 million for the 27 year old or 20 million euro. So it remains to be seen whether Everton actually are interested in him but he looked quite handy today. In that game, seeing Tim Cale come off the bench after 55 minutes and playing his fourth wheel cup, almost scored as well. Shot block that was going in, put himself about, which makes you wonder why Australia didn't use him in the other games. Particularly the game against Denmark which was crying out for Cale to be a nuisance in the penalty area but he got on today and played in his fourth wheel cup. Of course he played in two wheel cups and scored while he was an Everton player but unfortunately just couldn't get on the score sheet today which would have given him a goal at every wheel cup he played in. But yeah, unlucky and unfortunate for Tim. And finally Wayne Rooney that continues to drag on, doesn't it? But Wayne Rooney is finally expected to complete his move to DC United within the next day and a half, 36 hours, could be tonight. Everything's apparently agreed now, work payment done, visa done, he's had his medical anyway, personal terms agreed, terms with strefford agreed. So looks as though Wayne will become a DC United player imminently. Apparently a lot of people running with he'll be coming back to Everton as a coach when he finishes so I personally think that's a good move, get that experience back inside the club. I think it's valuable he's won everything in the game and to pass that experience on I think is a big thing. So good luck to Wayne in Washington even though he's not going there, yeah he is going there Washington DC, I'm too hot in this studio and this news is being all over the place. If you haven't subscribed please do so, only takes a second, we're very close to 25,000 now and if you want more videos join us on Peyton, why not? Have a great night, see you later.


So, hi everyone. It's a bit strange being here. As she just said, I just graduated from university, but I am managing this project. It's called Open Source Studio. It is our online learning and content management system. I am actually a graphic designer by training, but delve into a little bit of code, not much, just no little bit of HTML5 and CSS. So, not coming from a very big tech background. Before we begin, I want to show you this image of a studio. This is Pablo Picasso's studio, and him, like many artists before him, used a large studio space to research, ideate, experiment, and ultimately create some form of art. And the studio now is kind of different, isn't it? I mean, you could pretty much have a virtual studio. All you need is a network personal computer catalyzing an instantaneous flow of information. And this studio exceeds well beyond the horizon, if you would have it. It's not in the physical landscape anymore. And the artist incorporates telecommunications, social media, digital storage capacities, cloud-based file directories, and virtual desktop space. And this enables the artist to make room to roam in a way, you know? You're not in the physical realm anymore. Of course, therefore, a singular artist can run an entire practice from the web. That is, that artist can research, ideate, experiment, and ultimately create from a virtual studio. You don't need real estate to create art. And what is more exciting for me is that you don't need real estate to teach it. So learning in the media arts is not linear. Arts education is in no way linear. Knowledge doesn't flow in one direction. Students have traditionally learned in a manner where the teacher teaches and the pupil learns. But if you think about the arts, and even if you go back to the renaissance, arts have always been a collaboration. The artist and the apprentice always work together to create content or to create art. In that manner, an artist learns by doing. We don't learn in that one way in which information flows. So the process is so organic that usually, even in an art school, in the 21st century, the tutor and pupil collaborate. And therefore, there is a need for content management online that is a bit different from the other tools that are available. So things like Blackboard and all of that, they have their value. But then, in my opinion, knowledge only flows in one direction over there. So we are a system that encourages users to create content and it needed to be a system that was also administered by a tutor. So there we have it. We created Open Source Studio. Open Source Studio is a collaborative online software environment. It is designed to meet the needs of studio-based teaching at the School of Art Design and Media in NTU. OSS was developed as a prototypical multi-site WordPress content management system, which is situated on the school's network. Each student is provided with one WordPress site in the beginning of that class. So how we function is we give each student a site. The student creates content and then their content is aggregated into a class site. So this can be a little complicated for people who have not used much of multi-sites. But to simplify it, here is what our projected framework looks like. So you'll see, as I said, I'm from a graphic design background. So I try to make this as simple as possible. Every student gets a site. That student's site feeds into the class site. The content from the student's site, all the posts they make go into relevant class sites. And the class site is administered by the faculty member. So the faculty manages the site. Now, eventually, what we want to do is create an institution site. So the class site would feed into what we call an area site. And then the area site would feed into what we call the institution portfolio. So I'll get to that in a bit. But this is the basic framework. And now I'll run you through how we do this. So this is a student site. This is the site of a student who recently graduated from visual communication. I just wanted to show you this site for a few reasons. One of them being that we enable students, art students, to document their work. So they can archive their work by tags, by categories, and just by time. So here. And you'll see how exhaustive this documentation is for every student. And in the arts, it is important that you document your work. It's your projects are often ephemeral. So you need to document. And this site enables the artists to access their own work, not just create and document it, but to access it. Because usually over a span of four years in school, you would have created a lot of content, which is almost impossible to find after you graduate. What this site lets you do is find your work using basic WordPress database tools like tags and categories. Now this has revolutionized the way students work in ADM right now, because not only can they find their own content, but once all their research and work is in one place, it's so much easier for them to connect the dots. And then the idea is born automatically. It's pretty much already there. So that's the student site. Now I'll go back from there. But of course, this is a class site. This is a class called media and performance. So we give faculty tools to work with their students and organize that information. Here we see the crux of how open source studio works. So as I said, we have all the registered students on the left here, then all their recent posts are in the middle, all the posts that they're making in that class and announcements that the faculty make are on the right. On the top up there are also like content that is relevant to the course. How we do this, I will talk about in a second. But to use a custom aggregator plugin that we've got hard coded into each class site. And this makes viewing, commenting, organizing and ultimately grading student work so much easier. Like for example, the faculty organized the students content. So things like final project, project hyper essay, research, touch. All of that is faculty organization of categories for students work. Now once students post over there, faculty can easily grade them by clicking on final project and all the posts under final project show up. So very, very important database tools that we use here. Now this is actually, we have never ever revealed our custom aggregator before, but this is our custom aggregator plugin.  How we do this of course, aggregation source as you can see says registered students. But here where it says child category, we've got the category which is the name of the class. So that's the slug that is given to this class. And it picks up relevant posts.  And once you have this data, I always like to say this data is power. Like if you have method to harness data, you can do a lot with it. So we have access to all of that. And in terms of, of course, organizing student content, I showed this earlier. But we use a mass category generator called class categories. So how this works is that the instructor creates these categories in the beginning of the class. So say, for example, it says final project presentation project 123. And these categories are made in the class site, but they get pushed into the student site. So on the here you see what the class categories look like on the class site, they will own. But once they're created, they only show up in the dashboard of the student site. I know it's a bit complicated here, but the student makes posts to that class site. And they pick this category when they make the post when they pick the category, the post goes into the class site. And it shows up like this. As I said, you can see it says project one emo and presentations, because those are the two categories, the students in this class that is actually going on at this time. They're having the same class, but I'm pulling up their site right here. So this is very, very exciting, especially because faculty can grade work so easily. And secondly, because students have access to their work. But none of this actually makes sense when you look at this interface from a student perspective, like five years from now, I will probably not remember project one was emo or it was what. So the students need to be able to organize their own content and our interface is very student centric in that way. We let students and this is just basic wordpress. We encourage them in fact to tag their work. And once they do that, they create these impressive tag clouds that almost like the one I showed you earlier. But this is great in another way in terms of education because we're teaching students to apply standardized taxonomies and other effective database tools to document their media work, which makes it so much easier to retrieve, present and even evaluate and see how much progress you've made. So of course, I said student centric, but eventually the aim of this is to facilitate learning, even though it is core creation, as some would like to call it. We do provide tools to faculty to create content. So some custom post templates like this is the custom post template for a syllabus. So it's pretty simple. Everything, every section has a name and you can add sections, you can delete sections. So you'll notice it says description assignments, outline readings and miscellaneous. You can also edit the names. You can do whatever you like. You can go to town with it. But what this enables is for faculty to use this in their own manner. And there are two ways that faculty have used these kind of posts, these custom posts. One is a simple syllabus feed. So let me show you what this syllabus feed actually looks like. This is just the sample site I set up. So here it is. So it says description assignments, outline readings. You just saw these right now. But what is great is that the student in the middle of the semester doesn't need to read the description and the outline. So you can just like find the assignments and get to business. So of course, there is that that is the most simplest way of using the syllabus, the custom post template that we've made for the syllabus. Of course, some faculty use it in a very creative way. So here we have what we call the weekly syllabus feed. The faculty have compiled the whole syllabus for the whole semester and broken it down into weeks. So here is an example of a syllabus. You'll notice that every week has a name and a little bit of description. What this is actually is each custom post syllabus page in a feed. So you'll see for this class, the faculty is actually teaching right from OSS. So they have the assignments and they have the outline for the class. So what is going on relevant links and things like media, everything is in one place. Now why this is important for us is because this never moves. So even after you've graduated, you will have access to this site and to this content, which is very, very nice. I would say because I just graduated and I would I love being able to go back and see all my content. Of course, so great part of artistic practice is to be able to showcase your work at different stages. Therefore, we also let the faculty create a showcase of student work via galleries. These are custom page templates. They're curating art in a class on a virtual studio. So at least in the school of art design media and in most schools, space is limited. But when once you can do this on the virtual studio, it's quite impressive. Now the gallery works. I'm not going to go deep into how the back end of the gallery works. But the basics is that we aggregate student work. Again, the student does the work. They post it. You don't need to do anything. They post the work and we just aggregate it using a short code and using one of the class categories like that that I showed before. So that is the gallery. Now, what we hope to achieve is that finally, students can be like Picasso in his big studio, they can research, ideate, experiment and even create from a virtual studio. As I said, real estate is not required when you're creating art. It is beautiful to see what students would end up with at the end of four years of school. And the data they generate can not only create a powerful student portfolio, but also be aggregated into class sites. Now the next step forward for OSS is that we're not just aggregating data into class sites, we're moving on to aggregate curated data. So this gallery that you saw would be aggregated into what we call an area site, which is say interactive media or animation or graphic design, each area would have their own site. And every year you'd be able to see what that whole area created on that one site using WordPress. So eventually what we're striving towards is an institution portfolio or an academic portfolio for an entire school. The possibilities are endless. And all it takes is for the students to use their sites and the aggregator plugin to do all the work, which is exactly what we're working towards right now. That's all from me. Any questions? Questions? Is there any questions for Vishakha? I should be a high school teacher. So my question is how easy was it to get both your students and the faculty to actually use the system and use it consistently? Oh, yes. It is initially hard to get faculty to move, especially in an art school, it's hard for faculty to move from analog to digital. However, once the balls are rolling, it was a snowball effect. So one faculty member told the other and the other told the other. But of course, we had to run exhaustive like orientation sessions, which usually last about an hour. And with the students that oriented in their first year. So because not all students would know how to use WordPress. So I usually conduct an orientation with like last few weeks, I conducted an orientation with 180 students. But it was an it was a one hour orientation. And then after that, once the faculty start integrating OSS into their assignments, like by asking for projects to be submitted online, instead of, you know, thumb drive or hand it in, it becomes pretty easy. Students really roll with it. They they love using the internet and they love like being able to put things in one place. So it's not that difficult. Once it starts, it's it's it's a snowball effect. Yes. Do you it doesn't get into face at all with NTU like the on the universities system?  And we're actually in the process of integrating it with NTU Learn, which is the in house student space, like as a student online space where students can do a lot of things at. But it's going to take a while to integrate it completely. But that's the plan for the next five years. Yes. There was another question there. I mean, it depends on how you want to document art, this actually just moves into our documentation. It's images, videos, audio, multimedia, pretty much, yeah. And text or whatever, you know, some people use issue, do you guys know issue? It's that flip page online, it's a website and you can embed that directly into OSS, you can embed images directly into OSS, you don't need to upload the media anymore. So it's quite easy to use, I would say. Yes. How do you ensure consistency and quality across all the articles? You mean in terms of content?  The rest is, it's depending on the class. So it's, as I said, we let the class side be administered by the faculty. So they are kind of like the curator, moderator, everything, almost content generator in a way because they know how what they want to be created in that class. So eventually content can be created and decided by the faculty. So we let the fact because they understand their content even more than we do. So it's eventually in the hands of the faculty to create, ensure what kind of content is going up. But we do let students also post their own work under their own category, but eventually they just follow the university guidelines. Any other questions?


What's app could soon be banned in the UK? What concerns have been raised over the company's privacy rules? Back with its controversial privacy policy, only this time around, the Facebook-owned app is allowing readers to vote through the policy changes. It is often said that chat control is a threat to our privacy at its mix and to end encryption illegal and allows the government to check all messages shared within the Europe. This is false or at least misleading. The chat control law is indeed a serious privacy threat, but to understand why we have to dive in into the complexity of the law. In this video, I will first give some context about the law and its timeline, then I will explain why it's actually really easy to think that it's not a big issue, and then I will explain why yes, it is a terrible law and finally I'll explain how we're going to save our privacy. So let's start. So context, the story begins in 2020.   They immediately go ahead and approved a so-called temporary legislation to allow chat message and email service providers to check messages for illegal depictions of minors and attempted initiation of contacts with minors.  This is an opt-in legislation. That is, it only gave permission to those companies to search through the messages for that kind of imagery, but it did not make it required by law. One year later, 2021, the European Parliament approves a legislation called the high privacy derogation, no longer temporary, that again allows message and email providers to search for child sexual abuse content. It's now necessary to understand how Facebook and other companies are checking for this kind of content. A great example is Microsoft. Obviously, having a large public database of child sexual imagery to check for matches would be insane. So Microsoft designed a tool called PhotoDNA that relies on hash functions. An hash function takes an image and gives you a number. It should be very easy to find this number given the image, but it should be instead be impossible given the number to go back to the image. This way, every time police identifies a sexually explicit child video or photo, only the hash of that content will be in the database and when you send a message over Discord, as an example, the hash of your message is checked with the hash of the illegal content. And yes, Discord does this for every single picture you send. It's not a random example. Hash functions are usually not unique. Let's say if you have different inputs, like two different pictures, it might happen that they have the same output or the same hash. This is part of why it's so hard to take an hash and go back to the original image since there's no one original image but rather many different possible ones. However, it is extremely unlikely that two different images would have the same hash in practice. So we are safe from false positives to a very high extent when comparing hashes. Now, usually it is a requirement for a hash function that changing the input slightly will result in wildly different output. This makes sure that it's really difficult for two similar things to accidentally have the same hash. However, such an hash function would be wildly useless in our scenario, as it would mean that changing the image slightly would result in a completely different hash. So you would have to just go ahead and change one pixel to be safe from these automated controls. Because of that, further DNA and similar tools use a different kind of hashing function, which is called perceptual hash, which actually gives us similar hashes to similar images. This will be particularly important later on. 10 years later, in 2022, the European Commission decides that they would like to have this kind of control on all different platforms. This proposal is what we now call the chat control legislation, and it actually introduces much more than just making the current checks mandatory. The Council has had six months of workshops to define an initial draft, which might be different compared to the one proposed initially by the Commission. A group of the European Parliament, called LIBE, which is a Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs, also started working on its own draft. After this stage, we will have the trilog discussion that will bring the three different drafts back into one. The cool thing is that we're very close to a Parliament draft, and apparently we have an agreement already, and the vote will be just in a few days, on the 13th of November. That's one thing though, this video is not sponsored. Nobody pays for it, and yet it took one week to research and write, and now I'm recording it with some quite expensive equipment, and the editor is gonna spend days and days editing it. Ad revenue alone isn't nearly enough to cover all the expenses, I'll probably make around 30 bucks 50 if I'm lucky. The only reason this video exists is your donations. Above my head, you should now see a progress bar with the money I need monthly to give this whole thing running, and here's how much I currently have. I really want to thank everybody who donated, and if you'd like to, I've got people, LibrePay, Kofai Patreon and so on. Anything is appreciated. So without further ado, let's start talking about chat control. First of all, all chat messages and email services that do not get any remuneration, even from advertisement, are affected by this legislation. This means that open source projects, such as Katie's Matrix client, Neochat, are certainly safe and won't be changed at all. Note, however, that this legislation does apply to services that are not based in Europe, but still operate here, such as Telegram, WhatsApp and so on. This legislation includes telephony, email, messenger, chats, this includes video games with in-game chats and video conferencing software. Just in case you don't know, almost all chat software require a middleman that takes your message and delivers them to your target person. So I give Telegram the message and Telegram gives my girlfriend the message. Lots of chat services encrypt the messages in these two steps to make sure that nobody can read them. So I encrypt and then send to Telegram. Telegram decrypts the message and then encrypts it again differently and gives it to my girlfriend and girlfriend decrypts. And that's it. This means that Telegram can actually read my messages and my images. And the same goes for platforms such as Discord. This is how they're able to check your picture with PhotoDNA. They are able to see them. However, some chat services such as WhatsApp actually have a different type of encryption called end-to-end encryption, where only the recipient of the message can decrypt it. So I encrypt my message, give it to WhatsApp, WhatsApp cannot decrypt it and they can only give it to my girlfriend as it is. And only she can actually read it. This allows for a much higher standard of privacy and is highly recommended to say the least. So far, all systems using PhotoDNA were not end-to-end encrypted. However, the draft legislation says that we should check for end-to-end encrypted messages as well using similar techniques. However, fear not because this is actually possible. Basically, instead of having WhatsApp, check the messages because they can't. This hashing would be done directly on my device when I send the message. There are a couple of ways to do that. First one, after I click send, my phone hashes the message and sends the hash to WhatsApp. This is safe because they cannot know what your message is based on your hash. They can only know the hash. And now that they do have it, they can just check it through the database. That way, when I install WhatsApp, the application automatically downloads my phone, the database of all hashes. After I hit send on my phone, my phone hashes the message and directly checks within my device through the database without even sending any data to WhatsApp at all. On top of all of this, the commission wants to check companies for child explicit content even through hosting websites, which includes web hosting, social media, video streaming services and cloud services. In fact, Google Photo already scans your pictures for child pornography. This shouldn't come as a surprise, but this legislation would make these mandatory for companies like Nextcloud as well, or rather companies using a Nextcloud install, I think. However, the commission also decided to bring all of this to the next step. This method I've talked about, PhotoDNA, only allows search through images for known child sexually explicit content. Instead, the commission would like for it to be mandatory to search for unknown content as well. From their point of view, this move is pretty obvious, I would say. And in practice, it would involve a machine learning-based application to automatically flag content as problematic. Again, in the context of end-trend encryption, all of this would have to be done directly on your phone to make sure that you're not sending any data around. Not only images, but the legislation would also like to check for grooming, meaning that all text messages should also go through a text-based machine learning model that would automatically flag grooming. How reliable are these automated tools, though? Even Microsoft has one, and they report accuracy of 88%, meaning that out of 100 conversations, only 12 are false positives. Note that these are manually filtered out by Microsoft and will not contact police enforcement purely based on these automated tools. Finally, there is a new requirement on app stores such as Google Play or Apple, whatever, to verify the ages of users and block children age 16 and under from applications that could be misused for grooming purposes. I will note here that I was unable to understand, at the time of writing, the exact meaning of this age verification. Some sources expect a very hard and formal age requirement, which would require all Google Play users to identify themselves. However, other sources think this could refer to some lighter kind of verification, though I'm not sure what that would be. I will get back to this in a later part of the video. Nonetheless, this is a very brief explanation of all the things that are contained in the chat control proposal by the European Commission. As you can see, it seems like the end-to-end encryption is granted, guaranteed. All data processing is done directly on your device and privacy is safe. However, the situation is not as good it seems, as we're about to discover. And really, this should come as a reminder that understanding policies is always extremely complex. Let's immediately start speaking about end-to-end encryption and this idea of looking for hashes directly on your device or even sending those hashes to a third party. This concept is called client-side scanning, CSS, and has some major drawbacks. If the hash lookup is done on your device, there's obviously technical challenges.  This won't be an issue from a legal point of view because, again, it is impossible to restore the original content after you hashed it, but it does require your phone to have a big database inside of it, which has to be constantly kept up-to-date. On top of that, if the hashing is done only on your device, you have to make it very hard for users to disable that component by, I don't know, deleting some files or killing some processes. Not that, but you get the idea. However, sending your hash to anybody has a much bigger privacy drawback.  My phone will turn that into a hash and send it to WhatsApp. They won't be able, in any way, to restore my initial message from the hash, unless they guessed it. So what they can do is say, Hey, I think we should check for everybody saying, I hate the Italian government. Then they can take the hash of that wording and check for the resulting hash on all of their messages. My message would have the same hash and they would be able to know that I sent that exact message. Now, it is insane to check all possible combinations of text messages with this technique, meaning that, yes, the vast majority of messages will never be understandable by WhatsApp, but they can still track for certain messages that they would like to know about. And really, this is working as intended. This whole hashing thing is supposed to make it easy to WhatsApp or whatever, to search for all messages for a certain image or text that they decide.  But obviously, this provides no guarantee that our privacy is safe, because it is technically feasible for them to search any kind of text or image, not just that. If you follow politics, it's easy to see how we should never allow the existence of tools that can technologically be used as citizen tracking devices, because the legislation said tracking users is illegal. This is because the very first authoritarian government might want to extend that from, I don't know, from child abuse to revenge porn. And that's a good cause, right? And then from revenge porn to illegal material in general. And then from illegal material to anti-governmental material and so on. It's really not that hard to find a government that would be more than happy to use these kind of tools to search for opposition messages. Just in Europe, we have governments that are slowly degrading their democracies, such as Belarus. But even the Italian government has made it clear that they would not tolerate any kind of public anti-governmental ideas. What if the hashing is done on your device then? Aside from the technological issues that I've talked about, there are a couple of big challenges.   This has a small issue. Hashing doesn't hash hushingly and you accidentally get flagged for child abuse. Happens. Keep in mind that we're talking about a billion of messages every day. In those scenarios, some of your messages sometimes might be accidentally shared with third parties that would be able to review them. This is the privacy concern. There's also another much bigger challenge. As I've said before, you cannot retrieve the content from its hash.  Thanks God. But it also means that we have no clue whatsoever about what's actually in the database.   They can't do that. So we would simply have to trust them blindly that they are not searching for anything except child pornography. Even though they can and we wouldn't know.  As I said, the database would have to be constantly kept up to date. If somebody wanted to read my end-to-end encrypted messages, they could try to modify this database, either pretending to be this above entity and sending a fake update or they could directly modify the database on my device if they get access to it. And if that happens, if the database is compromised in any way, then my device would start sending some of my private messages to the above mentioned external authority instead of sending them end-to-end encrypted to the person I'm talking to. Sure, we can try as hard as possible to make it sure that none of this happens and maybe there is some integrity check for the database and such, but it's just all about the surface area that bad actors can use to attack us. All this assumes that the hashing function works as described. The funny thing is though, it doesn't. It's pretty easy to write a normal hash function as I've described it, but remember that we are not talking about normal hash, we are talking about perceptual hash, which requires small changes in input to be small changes in output so that we can check for similar images and not just perfect matches. The cool thing is that an open letter by a hundred of university teachers clearly state that even after 20 years of research, no such function exists. Quite the opposite, we have shown that all perceptual hashing functions we know of today won't work. This is because it is virtually always possible to make a small change in an image that will result in a big change in hash, meaning that bad actors can always slightly change the image in a certain way and go unnoticed. On top of that, it is always possible to create an image that looks completely normal and yet has the same hash of a child pornography image, meaning we can actually generate images that we are certain will result in false positives. It's pretty easy to see the issue here. A bad actor might generate such an image and use it to frame an innocent or float the low enforcement agencies with false positives. Both of these attacks have been achieved successfully against both photo DNA and Apple neural hash. With what's Apple neural hash, you might ask? Well, basically, Apple tried to implement client side scanning CSS and they actually did introduce it saying that it was the very best and the very latest technology as always. And they actually removed it after a couple of months. So yeah, and so far that was the only time only time CSS was ever attempted because photo DNA is not used with end-to-end encrypted messages. So yes, Europe wants to make mandatory to use a technology that has only been attempted once by Apple and the field. The only way to try to avoid all of these issues is to design an hash function and keep it secret. Just don't tell anybody how it works and nobody can do these attacks, which is not going to work. And I really hope that you can see why without me explaining it. The last important quote from the open letter regarding this is as scientists, we do not expect that it will be feasible in the next 10 to 20 years to develop a solution that can run on users devices without leaking illegal information and that can detect known content in a reliable way. That's quite a statement.  But of course, child control also wants to introduce search of unknown content using machine learning tools. Now, AI tools can be trained to identify certain patterns with high level of precision. However, they do routinely make mistakes, which makes them a terrible idea once we realize what scale we are talking about. Even scanning the messages exchanged in Europe for one service provider would mean generating millions of false positives every day. And even if this machine learning model runs locally on your device, each false positive means, again, that your message won't be private at all and will be instead be shared with external and they might even decide to contact police enforcement because of that false positive. Again, an amazing quote, this cannot be improved through innovation. False positives are a statistical certainty when it comes to AI, especially when we're talking about applying it to all messages sent in European Union. Because all of this, even though end-to-end encryption is technically preserved, even if chat control, the CSS represents a privacy risk big enough to put at stake the entire concept of secure communication because you can never know whether a message of yours will be actually sent to the recipient or whether it will become a false positive and be instead sent to somebody else who might contact police enforcement because of it. We cannot allow that to happen. Honestly, it feels like I could just end the video here. This is already pretty darn bad, but yeah, there's a couple more things to talk about. Very quickly, I will point out that another major issue of all of this is money. It is, to me, very unclear who is going to perform the manual check of the messages that were detected through these hashes or machine learning tools.  And we have articles on articles on how difficult and unhealthy those job environments are, especially if there's a lack of proper compensation and mental health services. But it might also be done directly on the low enforcement side as they already have groups designed for it. Regardless, it is pretty clear that this will require an increase in public spending to make sure that there's enough stuff to go through all the potentially false positives that were raised out of the billion of messages we send every day. Right now, 80% of the police reports that reach police are criminally irrelevant. And I expect that number to skyrocket if this legislation passes as it is now. Secondly, we already have reported cases of people wrongly accused of having child pornography. As an example, there are at least two cases of parents taking intimate pictures of their son or daughter to send those to their doctor during COVID lockdown. They lost all access to their Google accounts, email, calendar, even internet connection. And their local police enforcement actually investigated them for months, which after which they contacted them to say, hey, we found nothing illegal. You just took a picture for the doctor. And yet after that, Google refused to reinstate their accounts and automatically wiped out all of their data after six months. And that is the best case scenario. We do know of people that were wrongly accused of using child pornography and who took their lives. Thirdly, if the age verification rule ends up to be intended in a somehow strict manner, it will mean that it will be impossible to use any kind of online messaging platform anonymously. Given that app stores have to check the age of their users, they will require some sort of document or ID before being able to access any message platform. And we are particularly worried for compulsory identification, the collection of biometric data and the interference with encrypted communication. What could be preferred as advocated for by Durkin, no, no, Durkin Dershoot Sudbund, okay, I tried, I tried, is that large advertising financed platforms automatically flag children as such, given that we've seen they able to identify children automatically and young people as users for a long time. We might also want parents to create a smartphone accounts that are specifically flagged as children accounts through the voluntary age declaration. This way parents would be certain that their children won't be able to download any kind of dangerous application without their parents consent. Please note that I've only scratched the surface of the criticism towards control and I will leave quite a lot of resources in the video description that will tell you more about this proposed legislation. However, we are already pretty deep in the video, it's 30 minutes now and I'd like to start talking about how likely many of the issues with chat control are being solved through the European legislative process. I talked early on about how there's actually three drafts of the chat control. One is the original from the commission and then there's a draft from the parliament and one from the European Council. Then all three are merged together. Luckily, the drafts of the parliament and council appear to be significantly better compared to the commission one. Let's dive into that. The council decided to keep roughly everything except the machine learning part, so all of that gone. The parliament, it's a bit more complex. There seems to be a deal in how the drafts will look like, which is great. And again, the vote about it should happen in a few days, like on the 13th. It is worth noting that part of the LIBE group is Patrick Breyer, which is not pronounced like that, probably, who has done an outstanding work of communicating the issues of this proposal to the public. He's part of the Greens-EFA group and has been elected through the German Pirate Party in 2019. This is extremely impressive, considering how the Pirate Party is a rather small party who still manages to be presented at multiple elections in multiple European countries. And the best result that they ever achieved is 7.7% in Luxembourg. They managed to elect four people to the European Parliament in the last latest round of European elections. And I see all of this, not because they beat me or anything. In fact, I am part of another political party, so I can only lose by talking about them, but rather, because if you care about all of this and want some privacy-minded people to be elected and be able to negotiate better legislation, we do have an European election coming up next summer between the 6th and 9th of June. My birthday is in there, by the way. If you live in Europe, it might be worth it to check whether the Pirate Party will be in your elections and check whether you think they're offering a good candidate. But back to chat window. The draft that hopefully will be voted immediately states that all end-to-end messages services don't have to follow the legislation, so won't be covered by this. This means that CSS, with all of the issues we know it has, wouldn't have to be employed at all. It also asks for telephony and text messages to be removed from the bill, even though messenger services are still in there. And it removes the machine learning part, but only for grooming. There are still proposing machine learning to be used to detect child sexually explicit content in images or videos. The Parliament drafts also removes edges verification entirely, and this immediately makes the bill a much more sensible from a privacy point of view, especially given that end-to-end encryption is kept out of it. However, even if this draft is accepted, it doesn't mean that this will be reflected in the final draft, especially given that in my humble opinion, it would become hardly of any use. Even extremely common chat services like WhatsApp are end-to-end encrypted, and it's really easy to have them in telegram as well. So you can also download end-to-end encrypted chat services like that. I guess that people who use and share child pornography are just gonna very easily switch to any of those messages or most likely just keep using the one they're using, because probably it is end-to-end encrypted already. I'm not saying this because I agree with CSS, but rather I'm saying that, given how important end-to-end encrypted messages are to the intent of the legislation, I wouldn't be surprised to see them, to see the Parliament draft to be ignored in this aspect. We'll see. I think this is the longest scripted video I've ever done. So again, links in the video description, both for sources and donations to the channel, which would be extremely, extremely appreciated. Thanks here for following all 40 minutes of recording, and... See ya. I do videos like this quite often, lately.