Welcome to another Nintendo Prime live tonight. We have a special guest our good friend OJ aka player essence popping on over. We're gonna have a dual stream conversation a Little bit into the stream, but first off welcome your host the one the only Nathaniel Rumpelgeants and Nintendo Prime live. Yes. I got my packer gear on. Yes I have the Green Bay Packer Thursday night football game up on the TV to my left Just off-screen you guys feel like maybe a smidge of an edge of it here, but you know, we're trying not to get copyrighted over here We're gonna be Having a conversation with our good friend player essence. He has not been we haven't done anything together I think like back in March we did a Podcast episode we attempted to do a podcast episode. It was a bit rough That's when we were just got done installing the new flooring and doing the whole Remodel stuff in the studio. So things were a bit rough our audio wasn't quite working It's not as simple as now. We're like, hey, you guys can call in or hey this or hey that well It's much much much simpler now Hopefully everything works. The only thing I'm not positive about is the video on his side because I have to use two cameras for that to work and It should just work for his side because he's streaming as well So it's gonna be on his side as well I'm not 100% sure if the camera will work But it should the thing is this camera is also fed in the stream labs And so like sometimes you it's like turn off stream labs and then started this card call And if I turn off stream labs, then the stream dies So it'll be really interesting to see if I can get the camera to work for him I really hope I can I hope that it's not just a video feed on our side and not on his side That would just be I would just be lame. So The whole point of me having all these cameras is to make sure that I can do stuff like this But I haven't done a dual stream like this on two different channels in a while So we're just gonna do the best we can but yeah, we're gonna be having a conversation tonight We'll be talking about the game awards and potential media bias We're also gonna be talking about I believe Pokemon Scarlet and violet some switch pro stuff as well So it's gonna be a pretty hot conversation This is not what you would call a debate if you guys remember in the past OJ, and I've had a couple debates. We did a Debate over Nintendo become an EA like way back in the day. That's like five years ago at this point and then There was another debate over things like How do I put this? We had a debate over is unified Chronicles definitive edition on if it's a remake or remaster or whatever and at the time obviously he and a lot of people in the audience thought he Won the debate, but at the end I ended up being correct It is what it is. No one really cares because to be honest, that's all water under the bridge OJ is a great guy. He's always been a big supporter of the channel and I've been a big big supporter of his I literally my paid member on his channel because I believe in his content Especially when it comes to getting that RPG news He's my literal go-to source for all the RPG news out there, especially JRPG's but just RPG news in general the switch is sort of a An RPG King as seen by the game awards nominations this year in the RPG category It's Elden Ring and then a bunch of switch games. So if you really like RPGs It's like you kind of sort of have to own a switch, right?  I can't guarantee it because I don't want to have to kill my stream to get it to work It's one of those Weird things when I when I did the test in discord it looked like it worked I'm gonna do a test one more time before I call him and just see if the video is gonna pop up when I do a test video and Of course, it doesn't look like it's popping up, but sometimes if I change the source Of course, I mess up my my stuff there Give me a second Yeah, you like the like the technicolor thing going on with the multiple nates Yeah, that happens when I mess with the discord video. Give me a second. I will fix that on my end I think I just have to Hide my camera and come back. Nope. Nope. That didn't do it That's right. I had to change my camera source and it fixes it. So if we go from this to this Then back to this That fixes it there we go, and that's what I should have did on this side as well. I should have went to oh I should have went to Maybe that and then back to Well there go to that see that works Sorry, I'm trying to make sure that I could show for players since before we get going here Maybe if I go up here and I completely remove the webcam source Let's just remove it Yes, I'm sure I want to remove it and make sure I remove it in the other window as well Just make it sure we're good to go for for OJ over here again. Oh I'm just trying to make sure it's working on discord because again, it's one of those weird things where you kind of have to When you have multiple programs able to do Use the same cameras discord is really really funky with it. All right Besides that while I'm working on this. How you guys doing tonight? You guys having a good night? Don't worry. I'll fix that in a second You guys having a good night. All right. Can we stop the can we stop the preview? All right, maybe we got to leave Then come back in yeah, there we go.  It's kind of weird, right The only thing that seems to work smoothly is that I wonder if I should change my camera source That might be that might be the way to go. I know there's a way a different way I can do this. I might just change my camera source over to this avar media capture card Let's go back to the cam link because the cam link doesn't work nice With Yeah, let me I'm gonna I'm gonna change how my cameras set up here for a second guys So we place some music for you while I mute this and give me a moment to get things all all switched over All right, we'll we'll get this up and running here in a second I told you it might take me a moment just to make sure that everything's working So we play some music for you guys and it won't be a be right back screen because I just don't have one So I don't know enjoy some punch-out music. So I think They were good. I'm seeing this working on discord. I'm seeing it working here. Let me just double check In this setting we're gonna do with them, which I think it's good there too. No, it is not wait. Maybe it is It is good over there. Okay All right, so I think I think my video feeds at least good to go over here Again, you know just it just had to change what capture card I was using cam link does not like working nicely With with two different applications But I have a more professional avar media 4k capture card that I usually use to show off my Laptop, but we'll just run the camera through and call it a day because yeah, and hey the packer stopped them Hey, when did the packer stop the Titans? When did the packer stop the Titans? I was that just a groundy 15-yard penalty because Rodgers are trying to avoid a sack Digital grounding. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really matter since they're just punting. All right.  You guys doing all right.  I hope so We got we got a banger stream for you here. You guys having a good time. All right, let me message OJ and see if he's ready to go. We'll see how this goes Hopefully he pops up on the right screen for my setup. I totally did this setup with a different camera. That's all right It's pretty peaceful you're just waiting for that dude. Yeah, do OJ beyond a second guys We got it. He's got his stream going over there, too. I'm not History meter on my end though, so I have no idea what he's saying So he's got he's got his thing going he's getting his crowd hyped up doing his thing and I'm just hoping my packers hold on man Wait, my name is green. I'm poor. You probably got gifted a membership. We have gifted memberships on our channel, so All right, so as soon as OJ gets back to you, I think we'll be good to go I'm going to disable that just wait for the video call here wait for him to give me the okay to start the video call Who's calling it? It's gonna be player essence. He's in literally in The title at player essence. You got to go check them out RPG news out the Batman you you want to keep up on Nintendo switch RPG news. He's He's all on top that he covers a few other games for other platforms as well He's all on top of that RPG news. He's my go-to expert for all things RPG related. Let me tell you Anyways send the call he says all right. Well, here's hoping Yo, hey, what's up, man What's up? How's it going? Hey, do you need me on video? I mean, it's up to you You can be on if you want I have a set up either way Okay, no, this is fine then We good we were talking about the rise and fall, you know what the rise and fall is those Have you ever watched that stuff before pride? No, what's the rise and fall? Like you never watch like the rise and fall of like a content creator like those videos that people yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, you've seen them before. Yeah, I've seen them before I don't watch them anymore But there was a time in my life. I was in the drama anymore because I'm just not in the drama anymore, man You're you're boring friend. I'm yours boring as Aaron Rogers. Yeah, well, I was born you're as boring as Aaron Rogers Yeah, well that boring guys got four MVPs and a Super Bowl. So if I'm that boring, I'll take it Why does he got why does he got more MVPs than playoff wins? He doesn't he's got 11 playoff wins What wait hold up? Why did a porn star be be Aaron Rogers as many times as he has?  It's the 49ers in general back with the a capper Nick They used to they used to kick the Packers button playoffs to I Don't think they've ever beat San Fran. I don't think Rogers ever beat San Fran in the playoffs Yeah, I don't know if he has which is which is interesting because he was always like in the regular season I think he's beaten them multiple times. Yes. Yeah, he has beaten him in the regular season I don't know what it is.  Yeah, I remember one one year was like most or have like Two or something yards like four touchdowns or something and then there was one year capper Nick had like 130 rushing yards in a playoff game I'm like, yeah, we do it man. It was hard to control though. Like his running game was a lot of teams struggled with him But all right. Anyway, I think we should I think we're boring the audience with our football talk. We got to do that later I Was about to say I forgot. All right, okay, so We're talking guys. I know prime you had a very interesting video and I you know, and I was listening to your stream the other day I was stream sniping you because we were just acting goofy because my streams aren't serious. Yeah, and For those who don't know we got Nintendo Prime on the call. I have your picture up and everything So yeah, and I have your his channel's linked in the description. So you guys go subscribe to him. He's awesome But uh, we were talking about We were talking about the the the game awards He made a video prime and I wanted to I wanted to push back a little bit on the video that you made I think that there's some there's some very good points, but I wanted you to explain in your words Why the game awards is and I'll get to donations in just a bit if prime if you have donations You can queue them up and we can read them off if you like questions We'll get we'll get to those in just a bit or any time you can let me know you just interrupt me I don't care. Um, so that's a casual new thing for the 23 months, man But uh your video you said that there is a Sony bias Like anti-Nintendo Sony bias and people on Twitter your favorite website and my favorite website People on Twitter called you out for being your name is Nintendo Prime So since your name is Nintendo Prime, there's no possible way that you could be making a valid point. No Is that true? I mean that's that that's what that's what they say because you know I'm biased even though that one of the first things I say in the video is I'm biased like I Know I'm biased, but everyone's biased, so I don't know how that's about that's like that That's like not a violent point to be honest But it's whatever like watch the video and determine for yourself, right? Like don't don't just look at my username and make an assumption But that's that's what the internet does so so what's your issue with the game awards then? What makes it Sony? Sony bias Well, I mean there's a there's a number of things. I mean you could look at you know previous years if people want And I know some Xbox fans got get a little upset because you know, they're the ones that that really gets snubbed a lot I mean Xbox just hasn't had a lot of exclusive content But that's changing because they bought a bunch of studios, you know They got psycho nuts too in the game of the game of the year last year, so That's probably gonna change moving forward. They got some big games coming up But it's it's interesting just looking looking at it this year There's something I noticed and I probably think I knew this in the back of my mind But I never bothered to check because I just didn't care because I don't sit here and cover Games for other platforms really I pay attention, but I don't check reviews. I don't check Stuff for games that aren't come to Nintendo because you buy his bass Well, I know look guys reviews don't sell me on games.  I've been wanting open-world Pokemon for 25 years, so I might even go to apologize. I Got to try it. I just I got to try it bias. I am I'm a Nintendo fan. I'm not I'm not gonna deny it, but I know what I like I don't know if I'm gonna like Pokemon though because I haven't liked Pokemon I haven't like reviews. I haven't like Pokemon in 15 years to be fair and there's been games that are reviewed Well, it's been 16 years now. So you're not gonna like it, right? I Mean I don't know. I might not like it. That's yet to be determined I did like legends Arceus earlier this year But you know, apparently because I'm a Pokemon hater and a gen 1er. I can't I can't like Pokemon apparently, I don't know. It's The Pokemon community. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah gen 1er.  We spoke Pokemon communities quite savage. So you still wear like fire Charizard pajamas and stuff like that Actually, I don't think I've ever owned Charizard pajamas. I had a sleeping bag one. So He gets you sleeping bag. Yeah Pikachu sleeping bag, even though Charizard was my favorite, but I just that's not what I got for Christmas. So But no, so look look I can't ever say 100% sure that there is a bias but what I can because I the bottom line is one of the number one issues with the game awards There's no transparency on how the nominees are done They grab a bunch of media outlets the media outlets outside of a couple like kind of funny and easy allies at one point Told us how they do the voting But they're sort of I guess an offshoot of traditional media like used to be traditional But they're not anymore so they're more open with their fan base because their fans supported with their money So like there's a little bit of a difference there with them So they've been a bit open about hey, hey only like two of us did this and we didn't vote for anything We haven't played because we don't think that that's fair And that's fine at least they were transparent, but the other outlets, you know the IGNs the LA Times The gaming Bible and all the I don't know I didn't even do a total count on all the outlets that determined the nominees None of them tell you how they handle the votes There's an assumption as I found out after I posted my video that people think every employee at these companies gets a say and Then they just like do votes and then they tally the votes And that's what how they turn in their nominees and I can pretty much tell you Everyone at the LA Times did not put a vote in for these nominees I Sincerely doubt the multiple thousands of employees at IGN all put in votes for this because they have jobs They have things to do This isn't something that they're going to take the entire staff and interrupt their day to deal with It's gonna be whoever they choose. Well, I'm not looking. We don't know who they choose So there's that in that we just don't know how the nominees are decided at each outlet because there's no transparency We don't know what how the outlets are chosen by Jeff Keely Because again, he doesn't provide the transparency on what outlets are you calling Jeff Keely a fraud? That's what I want to know I don't I don't want to say a fraud. I think he means well.  Let's pop your chest I know I can't I can't do that. I think here's the thing anyone that I think means well I can't call him a fraud. I don't I don't think he means anything He like he means for there to be a bias as an example.  Just go ahead and call black.  Well, there you go. Now we okay end of the show guys. There you go But anyways like these outlets, we don't know who's doing what so I think that's the first thing to start I don't think Jeff Keely is telling IGN. Hey, it should be Pierce Schneider and this person and this one No, IGN is I would ever the hell they're doing but one thing I noticed When I look at all the games that are that I get nominated I probably could go like the prior years and make it even stronger case I know some people think like last of us part to winning game of the year is a bit fraudulent Especially since a certain other game came out that year that has a five in its title That was actually the highest review game of the year that wasn't up for game of the year But that's what's up. Yeah Four four the no, no, no, no, no when Persona five Royale came out, buddy I Okay, but that's like a remaster though, right 95 and other remasters seem to have no problem getting into the ords Which one which remaster certain Sony games seem to be a Some are you trying to say that are you trying to say that naughty dog is lying they call that a remake? I Can call it whatever you want bottom line is it's based on a game that already came out. I Mean at this point, you know skyward sword HD then that should be that should be nominated for something, right? I mean not this year. That's not a remake. It's not a remake. That's a remaster. I mean They they fudge the terms anyways, right? That's just the way all these companies do they fudge the terms I mean technically is it a remaster? They just called it an HD. I mean, that's Nintendo's terms After me getting slapped when it comes to you know, but I'm not touching any Nintendo games Yeah Dude Nintendo and their terminology is not does not help the conversation No, it doesn't it does not okay, so I mean I watched the video.  Oh, okay No, that's fine. It's why me your stream was fine because you were spitting in the stream So it doesn't matter but um Like I wanted to talk about it too. Maybe a little bit like it seems to me like Nintendo games have to be extraordinary to be nominated more than once like Yeah, no matter what 90 overalls not even good enough. Just ask animal crossing Yeah, like they've got to be even yeah, like you said, but they've got to be extremely extra. They've got to be like Mario Odyssey it's got to be like Breath of the wild like the second tier rate games that are like 87 88 You know, you will never find an 83 you will never find an 83 overall Nintendo exclusive up for game of the year It'll never happen Yeah, I mean I haven't seen that. Yeah, I Don't think the lowest was metroid rated like the lowest was metroid dread and that was at 88 Yeah, like I don't think the I mean in the lowest in the history of the game awards is Dread if I'm not correct, right for for Nintendo it is. Yeah Yeah for Nintendo the lowest game ever rated for Nintendo for up for game of the year is Dread that's the lowest ever outside of that and I mean dreads the only game outside of the Traditional or typical, you know, Mario Yeah, I told this year because you don't play got in which which I was actually surprised the only three got him But I think ban that oh was Bayonetta to Did that get into the 2014 I don't think it should have that guy showed up. It was in the 90s. It was in the 90s. I don't know if it did or not God what what year that come out again? 2014 2014 look at that here. Okay. My chat's telling me. Yes, it did. So okay But again that was also a game rated in the 90s Yeah, that's a 90-something rated game like Nintendo games. It's like they've got to be 90 90 something plus they've got to be whoo, they got to be up there And even then they're not even gonna win a lot of awards like if it ain't Zelda if they Mario, it's it's very difficult for the games to win awards or even get nominated You know, I know you brought up triangle strategy triangle strategy is a game That deserves way more praise. Yes Then what it's getting It is a 85 I think or so and it's not even just about the score It's about what the game does the encampment is one of the greatest inventions and a strategy RPG ever I can't believe it didn't exist till that game seriously. Yeah, like I was baffled that wait a minute Why doesn't every game have an encamp like what doesn't every RPG have an encampment to where you like right before a battle in Between story missions at any point like these are the type of things that in my opinion I feel that These games don't get nominated because they don't play them if you play triangle strategy You wouldn't be saying four-hour cat game is better than try I don't think it'd be hard for a core gamer to sit there and say you play as a cat running around for four or five Hours is better than a game like triangle strategy with an in-depth story super good lore Fantastic quality of life options really addictive battle system a hundred hours replay value And that gets nominated one time and cat game gets nominated six times more than a game like triangle strategy So it's just I don't know it's just it's it's it's rough for Nintendo like exclusives or Nintendo games like you know Yeah, I Dude, it's So like I did a little math and not counting a play tail requiem just to be fair because it is multi-platform And yes guys we know strays also on PC, but go ahead and look at the reviews the outlets deciding didn't play it on PC They played it on PlayStation So It's interesting because when you count those three games they have 27 total nominations Between the God of War, which I must say God of War doesn't deserve. I never said anything negative about God of War It's a 94 What is one of the best games that you hasn't been out very long, but hey whatever Horizon didn't I didn't have a problem with horizon being nominated for game of the year It's fine. It is one of the highest review games that you're one of the biggest releases. It's fine but those two have 17 nominations and Then you have straight coming in giving them 23 Nintendo has a grand total of 10 and Honestly, if you get rid of two categories Nintendo has like three And those two categories are family game which everyone knows at this point is basically the Nintendo award Which they might lose the Lego Star Wars this year, so they might even lose their own category I mean, there's a realistic chance of tears of the kingdom doesn't win most anticipated game. We could get blanked If Lego Star Wars takes family game, but we'll see we don't know for sure there And then RPG because it's Elden Ring and then nothing but switch exclusives Which I mean if you're if you're an RPG fan, you don't own a switch. You're missing out OJ knows all about that. He's a big RPG guy over there. It is at times at times It's literally like look there's good RPGs on other platforms and there's good multi-platform ones But I mean if you don't have switch Unless you're emulating you're really missing out on some massive RPGs Special JRPG's I Don't know I look at it and I see like you know cuz I mean I played Sifu. I played cat game Yeah, stray. Yeah, you know and I played these games and it seems to be like the review scores kind of Mary like like when I play it like the okay eight out of ten seven out of ten So it marries that like it's low 80s cool But then it seems like once we get to the game awards all of a sudden these games are these lower rated games are Elevated past games that everyone was saying yo, this is way better. It seems like this happens a lot Yeah stray and see who's a great game. See who's actually really really really good But it just it just seems to me like these type of games You know are getting extra clout because they're hyped on playstation A little bit extra boost extra clout because it's like you have game of the year nominee zeno baby chronicles 3 89 one of the highest rated it's got to say it got blown out by cat game in terms of Nominations it doubled up cat game. How does one of the best narrative games of the year not go up for best narrative? Because they didn't play the game exactly that's That is my that is my my stance with this is that zeno blade is so complex And it's a bit confusing with the narrative if you don't play it. Yeah, you gotta feel that these people did not play That's why here's the thing with this This is something that I theorize i'm gonna talk about in a video later, but they don't play The nintendo games so nintendo games don't get nominated for anything that you actually have to play To nominate it for so like narrative you would need to play the game to under to see if it's best narrative They didn't play zeno blade. They didn't play triangle strategy. They didn't really play live alive They didn't play all these games that have these dope narrative that they they didn't play all of them So they're not gonna nominate it. It's they nominate for the stuff. That's very easy simple Okay, that's easy like zeno blade Music you don't have to play the game to know that music's awesome You people hear the music all the time on twitter or whatever the case is youtube videos You can hear the music wherever right? You don't got it like there's tons of music that I listen to but I know that's good soundtrack But I didn't play the game. Yeah, you know like ace combat for example.  Harry mac at it awesome Yeah, he was amazing That performance Like usually you're used to like the english voice acting sucking, but they hired the same people who did elden ring They hired the same company like they went all out and it shows And there's no recognition for it because they didn't play. I mean, it's it's very obvious. They didn't play Yeah, yeah, and I think that's One of the issues why I think maybe you said that there's a bias there is because they're not playing the game So therefore cat game, you know gets Listen strays, okay, I get why like some people thought it was novel or whatever the idea is I mean, it's a cool little game But I mean I mean game of the year six nominations over a game like I said over zeno boy, which almost averaged at 90 I mean if you averaged out all the scores, dude, it was so close to a damn meta critic must play 90 I mean not that the one point really matters too much But like the fact that that is a thing and also like triangle strategy Which you would think for any like core gamer you would think that yeah These games are definitely better than like small experience that really You're just kind of like walking or are you just kind of doing a weird stealth stuff? I mean, it's a cool little game But it just seems really really weird to me and look we're not the only ones There was four of us came out and various other entities Not bias or whatever the hell came out and said the same thing with some of these picks That uh that we said, you know, um, so it's not just us Like I and I have a problem with I mean people can laugh about it, but We had the highest rated Kirby game of all time come out this year And it only gets stuck into a single category And I get that based on the categories they have like there's not a platformer category, right? So it's not going to be you know up for that or so so I understand there's not a lot of categories that favor it Uh, but there are some categories that that really bother me like the best Uh, what are visuals or whatever it is. Um, no best art direction Well, all five or six nominees or whatever are the exact same art direction So you're just picking the best of a specific art style Rather than actually considering all art styles in gaming Um, and I thought that was weird because in the past they've even had like, you know Really cool looking different looking indie games up for that and of course they went with stray Which again goes in the same art direction as all the other games that they have up for it And I was like if Kirby could get into any other category that should be one of them Because that game is carried by its art direction visually But it's whatever, you know, I'm always going to fight fight for Kirby when it's that good Like they actually put effort into this one and I I appreciate it Yeah, Kirby. It's unfortunate. There's no best platformer. Yeah. Yeah There's best esports coach.  I think the esports up. Look, I got nothing against esports. I know it's huge And I've said this now for three straight years. They need to have a separate esports night But what do you need to say best esports coach best esports team? No, well, so what they could do is put best esports team and then the coach is part of that team Yeah, I mean there is that There is that I think they just want to make sure individuals get recognition I just said hey look esports should have its own night Jeff Keely should throw it together at esports tournament night And they should do all the announcements there and heck maybe even throwing content creator of the year there Because honestly, I think the game world should be about the games And the people making them not about the people that play them and talk about them Okay, I will say this. I just a light bulb went off of my head prime. Sure. Um, and uh I know why esports is nominated like why there's so much esports stuff Because it's it's money. It's big. They want those people to watch But they're streaming china now too. So yeah, asia. Yeah, I'm dumb. I'm sorry It's massive in asia. No, I I totally get why he does it I just feel like this could be a two night event and the first night could be you're recognizing the esports stuff Do it even cooler tournament around it. You're gonna get all the esports eyes on it Um, and then you know then the next day do the actual uh the game individual game awards But it's it's it's whatever because the thing is the esports stuff. They always rush through it anyways Yeah, so like it would actually be bet in my opinion give esports more attention If they just did a separate night built a tournament around it gets them You know, he loves his sponsors. So you can get sponsors in for for esports You know get a million dollar cash prize for something like you know, like a evo And just do your own little evo night and have a have a one night tournament I don't know that they could find a way to get all these teams in the house Hey, you got a couple league of legend teams up for up for uh best team have them go against each other for entertainment purposes What do you think about see if I'm being nominated for a fighting game of the year? Um, I don't know how it can be in two completely different genres When it's not a fighting game and there's three other fighting games that Uh could have got nominated but didn't now I understand why they didn't because as we just kind of explained It seems like they only play PlayStation for the most part Uh, and for those who don't know someone said oh, that's not true because they're big outlets They can get review copies of everything. You're right. They can it doesn't mean they are Um when companies reach out to you or you reach out to them for review copies. They ask you what platform you want So the outlet chooses what platform they play on Not the company usually usually um, so They're choosing playstation. You can just see that in the reviews. They're choosing playstation playstation If there's a multi-platform gameplay station has the most reviews um Most of the time most of the time pretty much all the time. There's some exceptions indie games and certain stuff like that You know, you'll see like a neon white getting a hell of a lot more reviews on switch than other platforms Um and talk about neon white, man. They get Indie got screwed. Yeah, that game got snubbed like how that I mean worse than any nintendo game I would I would argue the 90. It's a 90 must play metacritic and it basically it got beat up like four hour cat game Nobody played it and none of these people played it They I think when they were oh indie games. Oh best indie game. Well, let me just go look up highest reviewed indie games The year. Oh, what's this neon white? No, we better throw this in the list That's what I'm saying. That's what they do for nintendo games. They they say they They play their games that they like and then when it comes like oh snap We got to think about nintendo they look up the highest reviewed stuff and say okay one nomination triangle strategy There you go. That's one of the best. Yeah Oh, dude, I can't imagine what happened with the rpg category. They're all probably like, okay So elden ring and then what else guys um I don't know. We better uh google search rpg is released in 2022 So search up um they're all on switch. Um, so yeah, I guess uh in order of review scores. That's Yeah, I mean That that's definitely how that that's definitely how it happened man. I mean, I that that's why I think That's why xeno blader even nintendo games aren't nominated even like dread last year was barely nominated It was nominated for two two things I Dude, I honestly think the reason that xeno blader got in it's a game of the year is because when they were When all that sort of sign in the rpg category, they realized holy shit. This thing's got a hundred plus reviews and it's 89 Yeah, like if we don't put this in there, we're gonna get yelled at this one the highest review games of the year Yeah, and you didn't play it. Did you?  We can't do that Yeah, yeah, we we we got an 82 overall a play tail requiem in there. We can't we can't be We can't we can't we can't blank nintendo Yeah, I knew play tail was going to get in It's a darling because It's just one of those games. It felt it felt to me like control When people played it, it's like it reviewed. Okay. Didn't review super high, but it's something a bit different Yeah, and it has some really strong narrative and leaves like, you know, I had no problem with it being a for best narrative either totally bad like So I I felt that it was going to be play tail was going to get in not because it's one of the best games of the year Because I don't think it is no, but I think that because of the stuff that it does in the game because of the the graphics are incredible Um, and also the narrative and the story is really good. It pushes things forward a little bit with that It's a really good game. It's a really good narrative and story and everything So I think that that's the reason why they wanted to like I said the control It's I call it the control clause. I think that's the thing to control. It's like The game comes out and it's like low age. It's like whatever. It's okay game You don't think game of the year, but then at the end of the year, it's like, oh, we got to get we got to get really artsy We got to get really artsy and really, you know And ah, this is the game. This is the control pick. Yeah, you got to have at least one control Every year. So I I did some extra research that I was going to throw into the video If I didn't do the cut together like I did because I made a point in my in my live stream that Um, I find it strange how there's basically three Uh, you know essential PlayStation exclusive games with 20 plus award nominations Whereas nintendo as a platform has five 85 plus rated games and only has 10 total nominations Which makes zero sense because it means that the platform that actually had the highest quality games consistently all year Got beat out by three games one of them being at indy For playstation because it just felt kind of weird to me. So I did some research and I found out that Uh, all of the top 20 non-indy games. It's not counting indy reviewed this year well seven of them are switch exclusives and yet We only have 10 nominations total Which makes no sense to me So they had almost half of the highest rated games of the year And the game awards to me and I understand the bias I understand it's a jeff kealy show and I'm there's going to be other game To me like the game developer conference is probably the best award show Uh, that nobody really pays attention to because it's actually voted on by the people in the industry You know the people that they're they're going to be biased to we're all going to be biased But at least they're people that make the games And they're only going to vote on the stuff they played and it is what it is And I think I think there's a lot of honor in there You know if you if you win game of the year and the game developer's conference I think that means a lot to the the people who who win that because you were voted by your peers But it's interesting because I think I think there is a certain audience that jeff kealy is playing into And and the audience is that You're trying to get me to say it I'm trying not to be too mean to jeff kealy over here Let's just say the audience where people Consistently look at certain platforms as that is the hip cool thing And that's what we're going to play say to Okay, okay So what do you say to the people that are like these are just two nintendo fanboys That are just butthurt salty That their platform Doesn't play games as good as my platform. I will say what does that have to do with the quality of the games we're playing? Oh, but the visuals. Okay. What about the gameplay? Do you know anything about the story? Do you know anything about the gameplay? Can you can you tell me how mario plus rabbits plays? Did you even know it's a tactical strategy game? Not only what's mario plus rabbits Sparks, I hope Dude, it's funny. Uh, two people. Oh, there's two people on twitter today. It says something like something like Lol look at the crappy visuals as you know, but it shouldn't even be up there And I and my only response is did you play the game when they said no? I said, well, then why does your opinion matter? Their opinion doesn't matter But I mean but but that's the way people go like like they're saying that about Us quote-unquote nintendo channels Because you know, oh, you're gonna have your bias for nintendo. That's cool But I also played these other games that were nominated. I played stray. It's fine.  I'll never get back Um, admittedly, I don't like cats. So for people who like cats, it's probably a bit of a cooler experience But also I played all these other games and I just know they're better And now look it's subjective for me to say that But you can't tell me they're not if you haven't played them yourself You're just dismissing them because You know switches a kid platform apparently, you know nintendo's actual age numbers be damned because you know all kids are just gonna say They're over 18. I'm sure they're all gonna say that they're 23 and 45 and Whatever man switches audiences all kids. That's what that's what they tell me Yeah, well, I think I've had enough of the stupid game award Yeah I don't think we really disagree much There was a couple points that I saw that you made in your stream that I totally agree Like I was being a bit hyperbolic obviously hyperbole It was uh Was I was I was I actually serious when I No, you said something like because I was bringing up like the number of nominations and and stuff like that And you were just like well, some games could be like low rated but be really good in a certain category I'm like I think I was just saying stuff. I don't even remember what I said Yeah, yeah, and I it's just something I totally I totally agree with that I was just kind of making a an emphasis of having five 85 plus rated games and somehow Three PlayStation games One of them I like to drink a lot of wine before the stream So I sometimes honestly like how I cope with things these days. Yeah is A few beforehand a few beforehand. Yeah, I don't blame that you should have a few during but uh, I I don't during now too people say, okay, you drink to this.  No, man dude We we did a my podcast last night and my co-host Eric comes over and he's like Hey, man. Guess what I found over in this one place in minnesota, dude. I brought you a 32 pack of hard mountain dew. I'm like Well, all right, I guess that's what I'm drinking on stream now for like the next few weeks I need to go refill I got my shots are always ready. It's my mental health deteriorating.  So like I have one of those days a lot more often than maybe some other people but uh It's okay. No, nothing against my kids. It's all right. You've got to end your day with a few drinks That's cool. I always have my shots at the ready people know, you know, they drop like a $20 super chat And I'm like, all right guys. Well, you know what that means I'm having some tequila because it's just time Um, yeah, I agree man. I never used to I used to take it all like super uptight, but serious But now that's just like bro Nah, man, I'm Brian C. Thanks for the two dollars. I'm not going to shotgun a hardball and do for two bucks Sorry, I don't mean to put a price on it, but that's a little something Yeah, I'll I'll chug one down here in a little bit. All right guys. Don't worry about it. It'll be my next drink I'm almost done with this one. I'll go go grab one of the hard ones Anyways, all right. So enough of the game of work stuff because the game of words. I don't know I actually Yeah, enjoy the game of words most of the time um, if you just ignore the ads, but It's whatever We can move on to the next topic. I got another thing that I want to discuss with you. Um, Uh, the the switch pro, uh narrative. Did you see? Oh man, this was great. Did you see, uh, switch force? his video Uh, the one that he said about rgt Yeah, yeah, I watched like I watched three quarters of it and I couldn't believe I made it that far, but I was laughing to shout out to rgt. Shout out to switch force like my two favorite two favorite guys Two of the favorite guys. So anyway switch pro narrative rgt made a video responding to it. I think it's hilarious I did rgt respond. I didn't watch his response. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah I'll have to watch it after we're done. He responded. He kind of like semi responded It was like a hey, I want to talk about all of this Oh, let's talk about all that controversy. There it is. Yeah, I see the video. Yeah, I'll have to watch it later Yeah, yeah, yeah, he wants to talk about all that and I I find it fascinating You know, the only thing that I'd say is this is the only thing that I say I say that everyone's allowed to have their opinion. Everyone's allowed The only issue is that when you start making the same points as super metal dave, that's what I'm like Okay, hold up Yeah, I don't I don't I don't Look, look, I'm I'm pretty good friends Yeah, yeah, no because like I'm friends with super metal dave, but he knows He's no He knows he knows and I talked to him behind like super metal dave behind the seeds there's a few times that Um, he says some things and the way he analyses like analyzes things that are just a little wild Um, so just a little Just a little shout-outs big love big love today big love to rgt big love To switch just just just to give something positive for super metal dave He's actually really on top of like all the hiring posts at retro studios Um, so he's really cool if you want to follow that and maybe find a smidge updates on metro prime 4 here and there Yeah, so switch pro stuff. Um switch pro Coming january 2023 prime. No Do you think switch needs to switch pro right now? Need I mean, no, it's projected to sell 19 million this fiscal year. That's not a need No, but it can be a high want a desire. We're not part of nintendo, so we don't Well, it's all about like look look if we if nintendo wants to do what no company's ever been able to do and maintain 20 million in system sales every single year then absolutely they're gonna have to release a pro It's the only shot they got to get 20 million next year But also I don't think that they look at 20 million as this bar. They want to stay above considering that No, but like the peak years of playstation 4 were 19 million I just don't think nintendo is looking at 20 million as a bar. They need to cross. I think You know, I'm not saying that we can't get new hardware next year It's absolutely positive and it might even be in the plans Like if they're going to release an upgraded switch model and they want switch to go another three years Sure, they could drop one next year and ride the switch way for another few years and call it a day I don't know what nintendo is going to do But I think that what what happens is obviously we're starting to get to the point now where The you know current generation of playstation 5 and xbox series are starting to get some of their more serious games coming out not technically yet fully exclusive games, but those those are coming And switch feels long in a tooth for some, you know when you get banned out of three And so people are you know not liking the framerate drops and during some of the combat It makes them go well That's because of switch and a variable might be I mean, I think there's a little bit of uh I don't buy excuses for framerate drops and you're an exclusive game because you literally are being made for one piece of hardware but Sure Sure, I'll give platinum a me. I guess a little benefit out. They didn't seem to have this problem with astral chain, but Different gameplay That game doesn't target 60. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's 30 for and I know obeying that obviously is trying to target 60 rarely Rarely grilly gets there, but um And maybe if they would have locked at the 30, maybe it would have felt better. Maybe it would have felt worse I have no idea. I know there's some people that have done some modifications and experimented with that, but Uh, that's like the only one that I really see though That I go, okay, you can maybe argue a more powerful switch Would maybe help that out because they want more power when they're making that game But like the pokemon stuff today Switch pro instantly goes trending when the reviews drop Because of all the performance issues So you're trying to tell me that you're trying to tell me that the switch pro Like if we didn't have switch pro game freak would have made a perfect game It would have everything would have been completely perfect on some type of imaginary switch pro Is that what you're trying to say? No, it would have been trash on switch pro as well And by the way, I'm not saying the game is trash the performance Um now it is possible and I I noted this on my discourse over to someone that Look if a switch pro is dropping around zelda, which I don't think it is but let's let's let's presume Whatever one wants to happen You know or a lot of people want to happen is have an upgraded switch drop around to years of the kingdom That maybe they developed this game for that platform and then it comes out and magically it runs perfect, which I've never known a game freak game to run perfect, but Maybe that's a magical world that exists and so the problem is that system's just not out yet and they didn't They said screw the normal switch, you know with 114 million units out there because you know, that's where most people are gonna buy your game It's whatever look I I made a video on this today about I don't buy the pokemon narrative stuff that people are bringing up to make switch pro trend I think it's I think it's bs game freak Is known to have performance issues with their games Uh, this is the first time we can open world game. They didn't have five six years like like the zelda team did to do it And yeah, it's either two points. It's either poorly optimized Which is possible or the engine they're using is not intended to be used for this type of game Either way, there's nothing happening in that game that switch can't run a hell of a lot better Because we've already seen it We've already seen it. I mean a we you game in breath of the wild runs better Which is made by a better team But the hat was given the time to do it right. We use isn't we use stronger than switch? No I love the troll and it's fun Hey, listen to twitter. We use was stronger than switch. I mean, it's not even close It's really not but I find it interesting that that's the case I think that they people feel that way because they feel that you can brute force your way just the better performance I guess with the game freak like they're so bad that they need something. That's just so much better Yeah And because people do it with emulation with it, right like to do it with a way more powerful pc And it's like well, yeah, of course, there's a certain point that you can brute force almost any game to be better, but It shouldn't need to like there's not really a need like There's nothing happening in scarlet and violet that needs more power Then what the switch has it just needs either more time to develop it Which that's more on the pokemon company in the game freak Um Or it just needs better developers. Maybe game freak just isn't good enough I mean, this is the first time they've done an open world game too So you consider that and people go someone's over there Yeah, it was the first time the zelda team, you know, the modern zelda team did one and I'm like, yeah But they were given like six years Almost six years given a long time and they also had monolith soft helping out. Yes already made Made a quasi open world game with zinoblade. Yeah, and I noted that you know, maybe there's there's something where You know game freak should have reached out to nintendo and maybe see if they had, you know Monolith software to the zelda team they could spare a few people to help them figure some stuff out, but no, but no They stay busy. Yeah, oh and monolith soft is I don't want getting their their hands are in a lot of games at nintendo right now Yeah, their their hands are and they helped up with splatoon. They helped up with splatoon zelda their own game definitive at one point they it was splatoon three zelda definitive edition torna And like zinoblade three like they have multiple studios like but at one point They literally was like working on like five or six and plus their other game So it's like five or six different games like all like being planned and developed all at one time so so The issue with scarlet violet for me and why i don't think switch pro is the answer to all this stuff is I think It starts with one of two things the pokemon company has to care or nintendo has to care for the pokemon company Because nintendo would never allow an internally developed game to release That's got this kind of performance problems throughout the entire game Some performance issues somewhere sure people from all across the world. Yeah in two areas of the game There was fps issues. It wasn't running around in the world That was never a problem And then here we are sitting here and like you throw a pokeball and then the game stops And then juts forward like 10 frames like that's that's like not That's not okay, and nintendo would never be okay with that if this was internally developed But it's not and the pokemon company has shown over the years. They don't care just buy it As long as you buy it. We're not worried about it And that kind of sucks Because you can care and still sell a lot of copies we see that with a lot of nintendo games like Hey zinoblade fastest selling game and monolith stuff clearly cared Clearly cared about the quality they also got like 10 years to make that game. Oh, yeah, I mean I wouldn't say quite 10. I mean zinoblade 2 came out in 2017 But they still got a hell of a lot more time the pokemon did, you know They were they were making zinoblade 3 as even maybe even before they were planning zinoblade 2 was made by side team so May and then also another team was doing Torna smaller even smaller team and then another team was doing Takahashi and a lot of the main staffers were helping out with definitive edition Like that game was harder to do than they thought that it was it took them a little bit of time to get that game done Meanwhile, they have parts of their team shopping was so they were doing that and then from there They they focused everything after they were done with that they focused everything on zinoblade chronicles Three but they've been developing zinoblade chronicles three for like a damn near the whole life of the switch Yeah, yeah, so They got a lot of time to do that That's the thing and until the pokemon company decides to care about the quality of the games And they want to keep crapping out game every year every other year. It's just never gonna be You can never blame the platform when the developers aren't being given the time to really do it right Um, and they're not willing to reach out to nintendo and ask them for any sort of help Nintendo's got oodles of development teams, you know, they know that pokemon's gonna make them a lot of money Nintendo would probably willing to help out if they would just ask But they don't and nintendo is not going to complain as long as the check clears. So It sucks, but it is what it is like like look I know a lot of rgt's points with the switch pro And I I brought this up as well when we had that interesting week when we had playstation 5 beat out the switch in japan for one week Barely, uh, and then obviously the october mpd results, uh, because I think it's a terrible point What was the same that that that was a terrible point Yeah, it was it was the same week and and I mentioned something about like hey, you know I've been talking about Some stuff related to this this is kind of interesting But we need to monitor this, you know It has to keep sinking for this to really matter in the next week about like 90,000 sales in japan It wasn't it's whatever the the reason why I had an issue with it is because it was based off of incomplete um incomplete analysis um If you follow anybody in japan Mainly my man ganky it wasn't widely reported. So that's the reason why it's okay. It's okay But ganky was showing pictures of switch just not even being in stock Yeah, it's almost like it only gets reported when they're doing the uh Uh, gosh, what is it the lotteries? That's like the only time it gets reported that they're sold out Yeah And even like another thing that I think people were saying is like, oh well if you go on to amazon japan You can see it, but it was it was through third-party sellers Like if you use google translate everything ain't gonna come out the same way So it wasn't even like it was available readily like all the different models and everything on amazon You know, so I think that was my issue is like I don't want data to be manipulated to chat up like if you want switch pro, that's fine You can have switch pro But like when we start manipulating data to make it seem like oh, this is Dwindling in terms of in japan That's their big that's one of their areas that they've dominated and all of a sudden it got out so uh, oh It's like, okay. Yep. Like Listen, that's this is this is this is ridiculous I'm first the reason I had to say I made a little bit of this backseat analysis myself And people were giving me hell for it. I said a couple videos in a live stream and a couple tweets on twitter and out Hey, I rightfully got flack which led to me making a video later Where I said, hey, we don't need Like nintendo doesn't need we don't need a switch pro or a switch 2 next year We want and then I went into all the actual data that kind of shows. Hey, look. Yeah 19 million still projected Yeah, oh they're behind in the mpd reports like who cares It's like That they they got behind during months when they didn't when other platforms had huge sellers people bring up Oh xbox didn't i'm like uh xbox is biggest games that sell our third party and there were two massive third party games that came out Uh that month in addition to obviously sony having their big games come out So it's like a nintendo had What sparks of hope and what triangle strategy or something like that? It was well and for mpd. Yeah in october Oh, no not triangle. So that came out march. Yeah, that was one. Yeah, they had uh, baneta banetta. That's right And those are not like yeah, look mario plus rabbits could end up selling 10 million But that's because it's evergreen. It doesn't it you know, the first one didn't blow up right away It sold over time um, so I I don't know man It just it's like just because it had a couple exclusives come out those weren't big names It wasn't pokemon. It wasn't you it wasn't it wasn't even you know Xenoblade yeah, like I don't know That's the super metal david point like he was like, oh well with those games You would think it's like do you guys not bayonetta so niche Since when is mario plus rabbits and bayonetta some type of system seller?  It's a bigger systems game pass is a bigger system seller than bayonetta three And it's getting some of these big third party games day one. I know because I have it. It's awesome Yeah, so I mean like I didn't and like that That's like with game pass and third party games like that is data that is out there like that is Very easily like I don't understand how it's used in points against something when it's very clear that xbox This whole time this whole generation xbox has been selling on the power of game pass and third party games If you base it off of no releases xbox should never sell. Why is it always? Fight why are they having stock issues and all that with xbox the people that want xbox Still haven't they haven't been able to to get all the demand because and the reason why I know this is because I still have problems not only just seeing the xbox Series x. It's not always in stock everywhere and and we look at the numbers They don't have to ship as much to japan as they do america and they still can't keep the numbers up Like a lot like more than microsoft or more than sony Like the series x is not readily available all the time Is it impossible like if you're going to watch like a hawk or cool. Yeah, you can get one But it's not it's not like you can't just walk in a store any random day and find it the series s sure Yes, I mean after this holiday season. I don't think you'll be able to get any of the system. They're all going to sell out but So, I mean my issue is that just because Just because microsoft finally gets some better stock because i think microsoft also had a better stock drop Yes, as we saw in japan, you know system only sold like 700 units this past week So clearly shipments weren't going to japan You know recently The demand in japan is very high either, you know, so yeah, yeah The demand isn't very high, but based off of game pass and what they've done they can sell a thousand units plus A week in japan. I think they can so it was it was a way down this This past week and it's been there's been it's been very spotty They're very careful on when they actually ship and put things out in japan But I think that right now they want everything to be in the u.s And in europe and especially in the u.s for the holiday season with call of duty and with these big games dropping So to me it makes sense that playstation 5 and xbox two systems that have been supply strapped for the past two years Get big third party games that drop. Yeah, they're going to do better than the system that's been out for that But it's just a positional chart. We have no idea how much one sold than the other from what I understand So the way the way I don't know how much one did better So yeah, because the mpd doesn't give exact numbers anymore Every now and then they'll give like a percent and then you can like go back in the charts and try to figure it out But from back when they used to give numbers, but it's it's very difficult unless they do that what what's interesting to me is Another thing that that needs to be considered is okay PlayStation 5 and xbox are still on their upswing. They're in their early days. They haven't hit their peak years yet They're on the upswing. They got most of their best games and best sales numbers that are ahead of them Switch peaked in 2020 Covid obviously helped animal crossing obviously helped Um, and yeah, it's going to be declining sales since then one because that was an insane peak year Just absolutely barely ever unheard of. I think ds topped it Was like the only thing I saw out there that that had a better peak year um So yeah, switch is technically a bit on the downswing or the backswing whatever you want to call it Where yeah, it's going to be selling it should be selling a little bit less every year. There's 114 million of them Um out there already, you know, you're reaching the point of of market saturation where sales are going to slow down Uh, but they're still high enough That there's not really a need to rush something out there. I think people just want A switch pro to come out And I love new hardware and yo when we hit march when we hit march fourth, it's going to be the start of the seventh year Sweet. Yeah, I I'll gladly take new hard. It's it's normal for us to get new hardware around this time I want new hardware too. I'd buy it. Like I'd be there day one. Which is there aren't new hardware Like that are just a different switch. They give me a they give me a zelda edition. I mean, I'm buying it. It's happening Yeah, people think I'm against it because I'll say this or I'm Defense force and it's like nah, man, like that ain't that it ain't I'd buy a new one if it was there Well, I just don't want the manipulation of data or say uh us to start nitpicking One week or one month or one thing because then if it reverses then what? like so 38k one week nobody wanted a switch the man's dropping all of a sudden 90 something. Well, dude I guess people changed their mind really fast and then this past week 97k What happened? I thought nobody wanted it that one week. I thought we're done Oh, well not by now. Oh, no. No now it's because pokemon's coming out So people are starting to buy it in anticipation of so they weren't three weeks ago But they were two weeks ago and I and and I get that but it just seems to me It seems to me like that's kind of how things always work like you have Especially nintendo stated that there are shortages Which they're going through as well unless people think that nintendo is lying to their investors So it's whatever but like there are shortages and we saw that in japan like we I ganky reported on it So I was like, okay. Well, you know when I said that hey, dude, there's there's shortages and it's not being sold everywhere People say you're lying.  I'm like, all right I got I got proven wrong on that too Like I thought I thought maybe there was some stock because I talked to a couple people that Well, I I watched it and bought one. It's like, okay. Cool. Well, I guess that's that's doing fine And then hey, I got proven wrong and that's cool. Man. I'll eat crow Yeah, when the facts are there the facts are there. I'm not here to argue against facts Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying like we just we just need to like We need to look at it from like all angles. It's supposed to be with pokemon coming out I think it's weird to say the demand is dropping and then pokemon's coming out And then you're seeing sales hit 90 something k 97 k It's probably gonna be over 100 k once platoon dropped it was that was just september So it was well over a hundred. I think it did like 160 k or something like that It did something crazy.  I think it was 190 something k that that that week When it's between three dropped It's between three. So like yeah, and it's between three sold like two million in its opening weekend It's insane. Oh, I didn't know. Well, either way. Yeah, I'm gonna get better Yeah, but it's also like I always Why I examine sales data so much. I have no idea. It's completely irrelevant For the most part as long as the things that I want to be successful are successful. So I get more of them I guess I'm good I mean, you know, we don't see that in the Wii U era though Yeah, well Cells were not very good Yeah, we didn't get more of the things I like so that Yeah That's such I I honestly thought for a brief moment. We would never get another xenoblade game after xbombed, but I I'm so I'm so glad I'm so glad you know, Nintendo actually Nintendo actually put out a graph about x in terms of its sales It's right at about one million little bit on which isn't bad for Wii U. I said pretty good for you That's actually pretty I'll say for Wii U. That's the fact that the system only sold 13 14 million about 14 million. Yeah Yeah, it's like 13 and a half or something like that. Yeah, I don't know the numbers are on Nintendo's website Um Yeah, so so yeah It's man Look switch is fine. Um, I get the desires for more powerful hardware. I have them. I'm a tech enthusiast. I get it I want more powerful hardware. Cool, man. I would love I would love to play tears of the kingdom at 60 fps with 4k upscaling that would be sweet I'm not gonna sit there and say that wouldn't be sweet But I'll probably still enjoy the game just fine at the 900p. It's gonna run at and 30 fps Like I'm either way. I'm gonna enjoy the game um I I think You know another thing that happened this year that that I know maybe has started making at least the internet Act all crazy. I haven't heard anyone in My you know out in the actual real world that isn't online um say anything about it, but like Steam Deck came out and now it's caught up to its its pre-order demands and I could just readily buy one and You know people just hey steam deck steam decks only $50 more than the old ad and it's you know X amount more powerful and you know, they'll have a new one in a couple years and blah blah blah And I said that I'm like that's cool. Well the total sales of steam deck Can't even pass a single month of sales for Nintendo. So I'm not really Don't really think Nintendo's sweating it too much But I understand the desire because now people have a alternative popular semi-popular anyways option to now play games portably um That is more powerful and I I kind of like having a little bit of competition in the space, but um I look I get it people people just want People know there's better technology out there and they want Nintendo to embrace it and they want Nintendo to do more And I think people feel like Nintendo likes to ride on old tech for too long Yeah, no, I I feel that too, but the one thing that I'll say here too is that like I don't think people Realize how important it is for Nintendo to actually have all their what is it ducks in a line ducks in a row Yes, ducks in a It's very important for them to launch with games and a consistent flow And also it's very important for the system to be up to stuff like features and things If you try to say we need it. We need it. We need it. We need it and they don't get everything ready They're gonna launch it before it needs to be launched and it's going to run into problems I don't care what anybody says it's going to run into problems So I rather them wait and make sure everything is in line Then sit there and say let's just get something out. I think that they're getting We already know Nintendo is working on next-gen hardware like they've been working on their next-gen hardware We already know that their developers are pretty much everybody is moved over I don't think there's any developers left outside of the last row like fire emblem tears of the kingdom Pikmin You know, maybe a donkey Kong game maybe something else, but they're really maybe my friend for if we get lucky What'd you say? Oh metroid? Yeah metroid from for if we get lucky. I think that's going to be a dual release But yeah, I kind of I'm kind of getting the feeling they'll just push it at this point to whenever Yeah, so um So that's that's that's kind of what I'm like Maybe a new Mario because we haven't had one since 2017 But then that could also be a launch game for the next like a new Mario game Yeah, I think a new Mario game is already that's that's the next switch. Yeah Yeah, I kind of feel like they will use that to launch because if they're going to launch Zelda now Then yeah, they're going to want Mario for the next one. All right, let's say a Mario Kart Yeah, yeah Mario Kart So that's something that's so their teams are already working on the next thing But they're waiting for the right operate like when all the games are done and also the system itself because I'm guessing that the system is going to be They're going to evolve quite a number of things the price everything needs to be right the marketing everything needs to line up so to me rushing out something because Of pokemon because you think it would have done better. I mean we we needed that system if they're going to use We needed that system last year Or the year before Switch pro or the whatever for shunt that needed to be a couple years ago not now at this point It's already next in time. No, I kind of think the only reason that they would do a pro is if it basically at this point was Essentially the next gen but they're not calling it that and they just leave things cross gen for a couple years before slowly You start to realize hey these games are no longer compatible these new ones with the old. What's what? No, it's because the new because the new one is the new one is the new phase out Yeah, the phase out. Game boy. Game boy color. Exactly. Yeah phase and that and but nintendo's done it before you just reference like That could be In the cards they could do a phase out and still keep everything on both systems for the next couple of years And that might even be a smart thing to do depending on how they handle it Because I mean I guess there was I think it was emily roger I think she's officially retired now from leaking things but she said something about how like nintendo's sitting on like a dozen games Like they're just sitting there That are already done some of them being remastered some of them being new stuff And you wonder why well, why are they doing that? Why why would they sit on stuff? Well one? They already had quite a few you guys realize how many switch exclusives came out this year It's it was a pretty packed here. There's a lot a lot So like they're you're not going to keep pushing things out this year Uh, and then they're going to need stuff for next year and the year after and also Hey, maybe they decided some of these games we need to kind of push for the next thing And like if you guys think about it, they probably feel like because nintendo just had this happen Guys remember the first nine months of the uh switch launch It was pretty nice that nintendo had all those games and all their ducks in a row For that period Like it was like it was like if this game didn't push it this game will this game doesn't this game will like we've got zelda We've got mario card. We've got swatoon. We've got mario plus rabbits. We have fire What was the fire? I don't know it was zeno blade and then we got uh, you know mario Fire emblem warriors. Yeah warriors warriors at the end of the year right next to mario Yeah, yeah, but like they had so many and it's like nintendo do they packed it on purpose We tanked and they're like hey if we're gonna basically nintendo was saying If we're gonna fail as a platform again to two straight generations We're gonna fail on the back of us releasing a shit ton of games And it worked now in hindsight did they need to release all of them in that year? Well, no, I mean, I didn't think they knew at the time mario card was going to blow up like it did as just a port Um, I didn't think they knew that zelda was going to sell 25 million copies You know, they're so like in hindsight they probably could have spread it out a bit more Uh, and maybe pushed mario to the next year and and but hey They did what they did and I feel like they look at that as a recipe for success They want to start I start it with a big game Nine months later have another big game in between You know have another big game in the middle and then have a bunch of middling games in between So people always feel like there's something new and fresh to talk about with our brand new system You know a person from the comment section Says that they feel that splatoon 3 should have been held back for switch 2 and I Really disagree with that and the reason why I disagree with that I think splatoon is one of those games that whenever you do the next switch you can just easily That game will be backwards compatible and they can just update things I don't really think that that's something that you need to hold back and put it on something else And you can give it second life by just even like if there's 4k upscaler You can say hey now we have a 4k upscaling update for this And we're starting a whole new round another dlc pack coming for 30 bucks And we're going to start up a whole new thing of splatfest and new weapons And they can just keep that thing going like it's a guys online multiplayer game All you gotta do is add more content keep it going Yeah, I think they're gonna keep splatoon going even longer than what they I mean because they kept splatoon 2 for five years I think splatoon 3 might end up might end up going maybe 7 Depending on when the next system comes out like they might just say hey, we can just keep this going There's no point not to Mario Kart's the one that I think once they're done with the dlc. I think they're kind of done I would be like smash is another one. I need a new Mario Kart. I don't care how I get it I just want I can't even play Mario Kart even with the new Live home circuit didn't do it for you That's the real Mario Kart Live home circuits fun guys It's it really if you guys haven't ever played it and made your own Mario Kart courses and stuff It is fun, but like to have the most fun with it You need like a bunch of people with switches and with carts and it just Good luck finding people that that have it Yeah, but it's also not the same like obviously, you know, you got to mess up your house and and do whatever It's a fun game. It's not normal Yeah, you got to do all sorts of stuff with it's a lot of work You know, it is what it is. All right. Well, okay I guess we can take some questions Sure. And then yeah, you can we can wrap it up if you guys have questions You guys can tag me in the chat or nintendo primes chat you guys can tag him and we can kind of alternate with questions Or go back and forth if you see some good ones prime. So absolutely. I got both chats open. Hey, who's winning the game? That's what I want to know. That's my first question Titans are ahead the well, they were up 29, but the Packers just scored a touchdown So, okay, so 20 to 17 third something like that. Yeah, it's it's a tight game That that kid Watson, man, he's gonna if he's gonna be pretty good Yeah, so people mentioned like oh, we finally had his breakout game And I'm like People don't really watch the Packers Watson has been hurt the entire season. That was the first game He actually played start to finish Yeah, he's he's tall and fast He's really fast.  Everyone's always speed How did he not go in the first round at at six four? four three He had he had a he had a bit of drop by a distance college And we've seen that in the pros because last week on the first drive he had two drops But then rogers came on the sideline and said i'm coming back to you because you're wide open If you're six four if you're six four and run a four three, I don't care if you drop the ball We're gonna teach you how to catch. Yeah. Yeah, I know like and the thing is like, yeah, his hands are so bad Well today on the Packers first touchdown drive Roger's caught him with like 12 guys on the field and he just chucked one up one on one to him in the end zone He just out jumped the guy and caught it and I'm like, yeah, his hands look really bad right there um, yeah, yeah It's obviously catching the jump ball is a bit easier. Well, and he's huge when you're six four I didn't do any corners that are going to out jump you Um, who's your starter going to be in scarlet and violet prime? Uh quacksley Oh, they're going with the duck.  I'm going with quacksley I just I just like his design and I kind of like his attitude that he's shown so far I I understand there's a lot more information out there about it now, but I really don't care Do you have anybody that has a question in your chat or um, yeah We got uh nishik pop said uh mario movie trailer or tears of the kingdom trailer at the game awards in december What do you think? I'll take a tears of the kingdom trailer for me personally I mean, I look look We know there was a rating for the mario movie trailer because there is some new trailer ready Um, if they don't show up before the game awards, I kind of think it'll be there Um because there's a huge audience and I can see nintendo wanting to take advantage of that worldwide audience for mario Tears of the kingdom I think is interesting they they they're going to start the The advertising train for this eventually because we have an exact date And it's their next major like I know fire alum engages coming out But like in terms of like a system seller that's our next big system seller coming um Look I had this theory because Everyone who's going to win an award at the game awards already knows it before the game award starts um so If tears of the kingdom is going to win most anticipated game, I think dug bowser goes up on stage collects their award and then they present a trailer Oh If it doesn't win most anticipated game, then i'm not so sure that tears of the kingdom is going to be there They might just wait for the next direct and then start their hype train from there But I have no idea No clue. I think it's I mean I always think zelda, you know Obviously breast of the wild had a massive history at the game awards So it would it would be awesome if like they would keep that tradition going but I don't know Nothing nothing with nintendo has happened at the game awards since reggie retired Because reggie was the one who was buddy buddy with jeff kealy So I I don't know that nintendo is going to do anything, but I would like to think That nintendo is going to remind everyone. Hey while people are laughing at us and awarding, you know god of war and horizon, let us tell you what the next game of the year is going to be Maybe i don't know if you will be i'm by i'm biased ourselves. So for me, it'll probably it's probably already everyone's everyone's bias Yes, uh Asked about the next switch. Is it going to be a hybrid or something completely different? I think it's going to be a hybrid Yeah, I don't think they're going to get rid of that concept. It's was so successful. I don't think it's rare It's course yet Yeah um Deadlock says nintendo prime. How many xbox exclusive games do you think they'll actually release next year? Oh, well two for sure I think starfield and rev fall will both make it. Yeah I'm sure there's some other ones. Yeah. Well, they bought so many studios.  So I don't I mean Look, I'm I'm gonna say four. I think they'll have four spread throughout the year That's a lot for xbox by the way. That's a lot dude. That's that's a lot for xbox nuts for microsoft Yeah, that's that's insane, but they bought all these studios. I think I think they're getting ready Yeah, they're getting they're they're getting ready. They're getting ready for the the drop, you know, they're getting ready for it like um So arctic on my side said, uh, I think if the switch Gets a revision is that the developers are going to be held back by the switch and more of the future wait I think if the switch Rivet Well, that sentence is weird. Let me see if I can understand what you're saying Think of the switch revision is that the developers are going to be held back by the switch and more of the future Third-party games are going to be cloud only. Oh, oh, so you're saying like Do I think that or do we think that most of the third-party games in the future will be cloud only because they feel like the switch holds them back I mean, we're sort of seeing a transition to more cloud games on switch Yeah, but it's still most of the people Like most games still just don't come out on switch. Yeah So yeah, we are we are seeing like cloud, but a lot of them just don't come out And if nintendo's doing like these developers have the next they have the dev kits. They know what the next system is going to be They have it. I know that they have it I I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I know that they they they have it or they're getting ready. I know that it's there Um, so they're just going to hold things back for the next switch probably they're just going to either hold things back or they're just going to Release a streaming or just not release it at all most third-party developers just don't release anything at all Yeah, I mean that's that's the the reality is this entire generation switch hasn't got most of third-party games That hasn't really changed But they've just gotten a few big name ones obviously now that Bethesda's owned I'm not so sure that we're going to see doom and other stuff like that on switch anymore, but Uh, I do think that it will still get some You know, I think we're we're Really, you know a few months away from finding out that Hogwarts legacy is going to be a cloud version I feel like there's been hints towards it They just haven't announced it because they don't want the negative Feedback before the game releases and other platforms Uh, I I think that There will always be some companies that you know, like mba2k and stuff that are going to keep releasing Uh games on switch because they feel like the audience is there and it'll sell enough copies to justify it Um, especially studios from japan I I don't know that I mean there's going to be more cloud games. We've already seen it I do want to give one shout out for cloud gaming. Look I cloud games have a horrible reputation for a reason I don't They have a horrible reputation for a reason. I'm going to give one shout out for cloud gaming on switch I just want to make sure capcom gets a little credit because the resident evil village actually runs Really it actually runs. Yeah, no one believes it because no one wants to try it. It actually works Um, and I think it works well And I think the reason is one obviously capcom and antenna are tight and they also spent all those years experimenting with seven in japan um, so I I don't know what it is But somehow they did what other cloud games have been unable to do on switch Which also kind of proves to me that the switch isn't the problem with the cloud games. It's The company's not giving a shit, but capcom for the win. Yeah capcom for the win I just wanted to make sure capcom. I got one general.  Oh my gosh, you're reading e-prime if I has comments No, I have actually never played checks quest of of any kind I mean, wasn't that like a free game that came in a cereal box a long time ago? Have you played have you played zork hd? Which one Is there multiple ones?  You know that, right? You didn't have to play it Yeah, no, I did you just wanted to see what it was about No, I had to play it on stream because of you. I'm blaming you for everything going forward. I'm just gonna let you know Return to zork's a good game. I don't the thing is I know you I I saw your stream of it You were you were you were trashing it which I totally get it's from a bygone era There's a reason games like that don't exist anymore because what it was Is zork started out as a really really old game in like the 60s that was a text only game on the computer Right, that's that's like games were kind of back there.  I just I just know it I just know it because he didn't grow up playing it So he missed the heyday when there really wasn't a lot of better games back then Vito says does anyone waiting for a new switch light or they retired And like what do we mean like an OLED switch light? Yeah, like a new switch light like something like an OLED or nintendo switch light pro Super switch lights. I mean when they release an upgraded system or whatever. There'll be a new nintendo switch light Yeah, I mean they'll release an upgraded See, I don't think you'll ever see an OLED one at least um of the current models of switch because They want to keep it cheap like that's the whole point of it being a cheap option But uh, I don't know. What do you think? I think that I never want to play zork again I that's really what's going through my mind right now is that that's that was like the first And I was on twitter and I saw my stupid post that I'm doing Um where I talked about what people want to complain about I wanted to see if I was going to ask you the other questions But I didn't we pretty much went over everything So those were the two things if you want to know exactly on my on my exactly on my mind Yeah, I got one. Well, I think it was really one more question on my side here okay I decided to have relations with my with my wife today instead of complain on twitter Yeah, no, I hear you. It was either one or one of the other your boy's getting on. I need I need a baby I'm good. No more babies over here. I'm I got three kids. I'm good. You tired up.  I retired having a baby. I haven't retired the relations, but uh The relations are ongoing the relations that the relations are a five time a week events. So don't worry about it Five times a week. Hold up right five times a week. Oh, yeah Dang We've been together 11 years. So it's still going strong over here Five times a week? Poor star Let's just say there's a let's just say there's a lot of stress in this house and we know how to relieve it Poor star prime Oh, that's awesome. That's why you had no bad to say about Jimmy Garoppolo. This man. I was oh, I love Jimmy Garoppolo Oh, it was great. This man ain't never say a bad thing about Jimmy Garoppolo in his life No, like hey, like my hackers are down 10 points here in the fourth quarter. They're they're they're probably gonna lose They're about to punt and honestly, it's cool because I know how my night's ending. So it's it's whatever Let's say prime never punts I'm the Prime don't got a punter on his team. He's just on off. He got no this is offense All offense, man. He's the the greatest show on turf the great Oh, don't call Don't call him that I'm joking.  So what do I care? Yeah, but if you do no holds bar then people are just gonna really just like oh, I can say whatever I want now I'm there the floodgates open when you do that We I mean listen be more on a serious note We saw what happened with you know without a cut and everything like you have a no holds bar stream Like it really it can mess with you a little bit mentally because people just start saying, oh, well I'm just gonna say this. Yeah, even even if you don't hear him complain about it. It's uh People internalize a lot Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I mean that and that's all his streams right like I would cringe through some The strength is like people would just say the craziest things and you can see sometimes it hurt him You know sometimes it actually hurt him like yeah some days. He was like, okay, huh, huh funny But other days he was like, yo man, that's not funny like the same joke. That's not funny. So You know, that's why you got to just be Try to tone it down a little bit. You know, that's why I don't want to go too far with things. Um But yeah, we used to be a little extreme with our debates at times back of the day. Um Byron stop tagging me We says marlin gaming nation griffin gaming and rgt85 agrees with me that the playstation is swiping the game awards this year What does that even mean? Are they stealing it? Swiper knows swiping. What is this door of the explorer? Like what what do you come here telling me other people say all the time? What's wrong with you? Yeah, who cares? But like, yeah, okay. Maybe maybe there's maybe those people Yeah, maybe those people do think it's gonna happen. Who cares? I don't care if they got a door of the explorer Uh freaking sponsorships swiper knows swiping. They're swiping this good for them We have already discussed this the people at the game awards play playstation the most So playstation games get nominated the most I mean pc gets snubbed more than anyone if we want to talk about who gets snub If you feel good about that or if you like that good for you I have a playstation good for you if you think four hour cat games and sifu's a fighting game and all this stuff And you agree with them Yo for real my boy really more power to you You know more power to you think you're an actual gamer and you play all the games You would probably think games like triangle Actually, most people think that because the reviews all rated better You would think games like curvy triangle strategy Xenoblade and all those games all the games that were released and that you know that did better Reviewed better people like just as much sold probably just as good as these games if not better You would think that those games would get some more love, but it's not about that It's about playstation winning so many awards not about the best about what was great and rewarding It's about playstation to you.  Okay, so good for you my man.  So Byron. There you go. You happy there you go swiping swiper knows swiping the awards that are clearly Not all there, but hey if you feel good about it. Like I said more power to you I hope god of war wins nine awards and then loses to elden ring for game of the year Just to kind of prove how messed up the whole situation is I think I that happened. Um, That's already happened before. Um death stranding death stranding gets nominated a bazillion times then Sekiro wins game of the year That that's happened control control and and then Sekiro which got nominated way less than those games That's game of the year Well, it's kind of funny because like honestly elden ring probably should have the most nominations and dozens. So it's whatever Yeah Yeah, it's it's got rpg. It's got narrative. It's like I don't know like how God awards out for five days And it has more nominee. I don't know how we It's like it's like they forgot what they played early. They were playing the game before at least some of them were Yes I don't want to make any presumption. You know at this point. I'm not even sure that people have all played the games at all They played a four hour game, we know that well, I'm sure they played that or they had a cat in real life And was like, you know what that's a cool game You know, I mean these guys these are the same people that said sifu is a fighting game and I just I It's very hard to take a panel seriously when they are mislabeling a game because they can't think of another game to fill the slot Because they can't use google Yeah, that's that's the the crazy thing is that you're praising people Who think sifu is a fighting game? by It's a solid game, but it's the wrong category Yeah, how do you sit here and realistically say yeah playstation is while they're nominating sifu as a fighting game as in a versus fighting game head-to-head fighting combat like Clearly, there's some issues and they nominated it in the correct category later. So it's kind of like It can't these it can't be both That it's just they don't they're not compatible. That's not how that's how gaming works Are you sure king of fighters isn't a action game too? Yeah, right? Are you are you sure it's not? There is combat and ban out of three is not a fighting game You fight things ban out of three could be a fighting game When you think about it Well, that's probably the same argument they're using for sifu to make it a fighting game Okay Shout out to them man. They did a great job this year. This was a it's a call it. Yeah call duty is an action game That's clearly Hey, there's no first-person shooter category, right? Uh, no, they're surprisingly I didn't they they use that I will give jack keel me some credit There used to be like 45 awards. He has cut them down. Yeah He's cut them down quite a bit.  They could have. Yeah. Yeah Let me see what we're after this game. There's the hell singer game. Yeah is the overwatch Uh call of duty There was a number there was more first-person shooters that I get you could have I guess maybe you can't really put me On right there. I mean you could have maybe um But there was a number oh dude uh the high on life game too. I forgot about that one Yeah, no that one that one's actually pretty good I mean you could have I guess halo came out too late last year. So is it nominated for anything this year? I don't what's halo? I don't was halo not halo But it wasn't halo a november game. That's you Oh, okay. Yeah. No halo was nominated for uh, what's it called user's choice game of the year? Oh Yeah won that But nothing else because it wasn't it was too late And then it didn't get nominated for anything this year because guys is what happens Um anything released in the second half of november and december Never can be awarded anything Good luck I mean just ask supers just ask smash bros Yeah smash brothers. I think it got nominated for three awards game of the year family game and fighting game It won. I think it won fighting game. Yeah, I'm pretty sure one fighting game out here. Yeah I don't know if it won anything else, but I mean it was the highest rated game though in that whole Yeah, it was the highest rated game out of all of them and Was crushing it in sales and was by far and away at least at that point Widely considered the greatest fighting game to ever exist and if That can't take the crown if that can't get more awards Then fighting games just don't have a chance but then again fighting games apparently you could see fusa I guess it's a relevant category to them It's what it is. Sorry. I can't I can't let the seafood thing go.  I'm so Oh, I don't know. I'm actually so confused I I need to I need to I need to go get a drink. So, um Prime man, thank you so much for having this conversation with me. Um Where can they find you at? Well, obviously you find me on youtube Uh, gosh, it was at youtube.com slash c slash nintendo prime yt or just type nintendo prime in the search. It's much easier. I think Don't well, they got at things now on you. I don't know. I don't know how you use them But it's at ninty prime, which is also the same as my twitter handle If you guys want to post primes channel on the chat you guys go subscribe To the channel. Um for people on primes channel, you can find me player essence. Yeah, you're doing absolutely nothing Absolutely, absolutely. No, I cover I cover rpgs and like And like nintendo stuff, but rpgs nintendo stuff. Oh, they did change it. They did put the app in the url Now good for good for youtube doing something. I don't know what the point of it is, but Hey, look man after this whole situation with twitter youtube looking like super s tier at this point Right youtube looks great YouTube's looking youtube's out here like polishing up their name, you know what i'm saying like the old school You know polishing up their blood on their nails and like going like this I'm waiting for them to turn the community section into a sudo twitter at this point Yeah, I mean if twitter goes kaput, which it seems like a lot of people are like thinking it was like a mask I think people just quit.  It's the clip I don't know if you've seen this clip prime.  He's wrestler for aw He went ballistic on the game awards in in 2019 And it was a clip of him reacting to jump force being nominated as the best Fighting game or one of the best fighting games and when he finds out that jump force is nominated He goes jump force and then he just starts like destroying his He throws his head and it goes jump force jump force and I have like a notification like a Donation that's set up to bear. Oh, that's hilarious Yeah, I'll stay in the clip. I'll stay in the clip later. It's actually Soup. It's like the funny like literally I was like out of breath when I because I was watching it live And I remember it's much funnier live, but when it happened. I was just like everybody in the chat We were like literally like I was like Hyper ventilating it was so funny because he's just going nuts that jump force got nominated for for fighting game would be your classic clips that's the bead queen What's the game awards discussion without bearing jump force? That's what bead queen said Thank you for the donation. I'm gonna have to see that clip that that sounds hilarious Yeah, I'll I'll um I think I've seen that pop up on your stream and I didn't really get the reference Yeah, yeah It's because it's small too because the more text that you put it makes it smaller But if you see it like him like right there on your youtube screen and like you watch it It's actually really funny because he's kind of calm like he's not super calm But he's kind of calm and then it gets boom it gets like all the way up to like a hundred This like I said, this was like years ago. This was 20. This is 2019. I think yeah 2019 so that was like the most controversial year of the game awards. So this year's Controversial, but it's not as controversial. Yeah I mean the thing is is like, you know, like usually it's the game of the year award That's the most controversial and I think everyone Can accept it. I mean look we can complain about cat game. We can complain about whatever but it's We everyone kind of knows it's between two games Yeah, so like yeah, it's elven ring or got a elven ring and stray Yeah Yeah, clearly or is it stray and it's between stray and I don't know what the stray and See who's a hidden option. See who's a hidden option Is see who's When you're voting when you're voting for Xenoblade Chronicles 3 it really means it's actually siphoning votes to sifu Yeah, oh, here's how they ranked.  Let's go, baby Um, all right, you know shout out still prime. Yo, thanks for talking with me. No problem. You're the best man Um, I hope your packers lose because they're in the nfc. So I don't want anybody testing my Niners Let's take a look at especially after that big win with against the cowboys. What's going on here? No, it's a packers are probably gonna lose here unless the unless they can force another pun But it's all right. Uh, what's the score with the score is down to 27 Yeah, they just they just There's time. There's time. They they pull up a 14 point comeback last Gave me there's time, but the defense has to do its thing. That's whatever. Okay All right, then prime. I'll talk to you later my boy. Thank you for coming out to the stream tonight, man Yeah, later, man. Have a good night. All right. Take it easy. Yep All right, uh, so that was player essence everybody Uh, did you guys have a good time? Did you enjoy the stream? Uh, arctic by the way, thank you for the two dollars Uh, halo combat evolved is your favorite pointing click game. Nice. Yeah, that's a good game It's a good game. Uh, you point at the enemies because yeah, yeah, no, I don't I don't halo combat evolved Uh, let's see here. My fantasy team is going nuts.  He's got two tutties. So I'm I'm doing pretty good Uh, can you say Nintendo power? I just did It was a fun conversation. Yeah, I figured it was just something different for you guys, you know It wasn't it wasn't meant to be you know, like a super serious stream It was just having a conversation.  Mine aren't either Uh, it felt like I was having a serious conversation about the tgas on tuesday, but um, I just had some some stuff I needed to get off my chest about it.  I would do a lot of Nintendo news and stuff, but Uh, let's see here. Um It was a very fun stream. I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. I don't know how many more streams I'll do team it up with other youtubers just have it and come on and Chit chatting, but I that was fun You guys are awesome. Uh, I'm probably gonna be calling this a night Um, did yulia scold me in the chat? Yulia pop in and yell at me Be hilarious if she did I'm scrolling up with the chat trying to find her. I'm like, I'm not seeing you. I don't think I saw yulia here all night I don't think she was watching this one today Uh, will we see uh, mr. OJ in the future podcast of mike odyssey and mr. Eric, uh, I don't know for sure Uh, what I can say is Well, I'll I'll invite him on I can't I can't guarantee that schedules line up and that everything works out You know, he's got his own thing his own youtube stuff. He's got to do Um, but I mean I had him on back in like march, but it was admittedly that was a really rough show We had just launched a new studio And of course my dumb butt decided to have a guest on for like one of our first shows in the new studio And none of the equipment was working. Well the roadcaster we didn't have back then that's really simplified things And even now like when I had to do things like oh, I got to go change camera inputs if we're both going to be on camera Like I had this thing set up here Like I was going to be here. OJ was going to be over there. I don't know what his setup was going to be like with two people um So I sat there and I was like Okay, well, I already know what to do to make it work Right, like there's how I want it to work with the second camera But because I didn't start the test video on discord before launching stream ads I had to use this camera and I already knew what I needed to do to make that work because I've already been to the ringer right in this new studio set up with all the equipment we got I've already been through everything. So now like if there's a problem I know what to do to at least mandate it for now before I address it once the stream ends So I would like to have them on where we're not having all those technical issues um And you know what? There's I probably I wanted I tried to get them on uh for xeno blade I wanted him to come on the launch week of xeno blade because he needs to be and he knows more about xeno blade now He just actually does uh, but he um Just it just ended up not working out Uh, so I wouldn't expect him to come on frequently Uh, he invited me this time and I usually always accept an invite, especially when it's one of my regular streaming nights anyways uh, but he Yeah, it'll it'll it'll it'll be all right everything's gonna be all right Uh, I think he'll probably be on a podcast at some point. I hear him. I don't know say the next three months I'll try to get him on before zelda comes out for sure Right, maybe fire them engage. Maybe I should get them to come on for fire. I'm gonna engage So yeah, I'd like to get him to come on me and ojben buddies for a long time I'd like to get rgt on sometime too. He doesn't always respond to me, but um Especially since there's this whole controversy between him and switch force and it's I gotta go watch that video. So because I gotta watch that video. We're actually gonna sign off Uh, one of the you guys though for everything. Uh, thanks for the couple super chats we had during the stream I do appreciate it You guys are awesome. I think it was brian c and arctic Thank you guys for that You guys have a good rest of your night I'm gonna leave this stream public since it was a Dual stream with another youtuber. I felt like it was a really good stream. So we're gonna leave this one public I'm not gonna unlist it guys So you can watch it later in case you missed any of the early conversation. All right guys Have a good rest of your evening. I'm gonna finish watching my packers lose Bye guys