Thank you for joining us We are joined today by the pod father. That's right. I haven't seen him in forever because he's scared of everything Yeah So he's staying home, where's that monkey pox vaccine Chris Moro has a project dropping today. Yep college summer of 85.  It's coming out on SPH production That's me and Kevin Hart's company at audible Chris, could you tell us what? Some of 85 is about well, man, that's a long question. I'll give you the cliff notes version. It's a podcast Also, we want to check in with you How many times you get COVID? I just got it 4th of July weekend for the first time. Oh long somebody do the days Are we good I've been I've been testing. I'm negative. Okay. You're good. All right.  I'll be really you're gonna get long COVID for sure You got long lines got long lines, I got a long COVID Kind of the same thing at the end of the day. Was it the first time you got it?     I was I was in bed for like eight or nine days. Oh, really? You're back story. Yeah Vax boosted.  What you mean? You got monkey pox I saw some other new virus in Ghana that he says like 88% fatal and super contagious.     Well, don't talk about it. Like what's what's more pure?  Do you understand like I'm gonna ignore it's not it's not happening, bro I truly understand the term ignorance is bliss now.  I No clue. I she didn't pop on my radar. I'll never listen to her. I never to Arizona. Yeah, yeah, yeah Don't know who she is really.  Don't know him big Joe Manchin don't wanna know Virginia don't want to know either Don't want to know I'm like proud not knowing senators. You know, I know AOC. I know What the Congress one oh, it's a girl You'll see Joe Manchin. Oh, no, Joe Manchin is a guy Kristen cinnamon's a woman. Yeah, yeah, I know that I think I don't know I don't want to misgender them Don't know I don't really don't I don't know what they identify yet, but I'm pretty From our from our era. Yeah, you more than 1900. Yeah That's facts that's facts and in any era like generally like if you assume if you assume gender you're usually right You are usually right, right?  You're like, yeah Like you don't know my pronoun is dim. I mean this. Yeah, my pronoun is this you're this this what on is this My wife's pronoun is that you don't know that until we tell you Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's that that's what's up, man. That's me bro. Yo, that's fire. Thank you That's that's really cool. What do you guys identify as a dr. Seuss book?  Really. Yeah, well at Sesame Place Well, I'm sure Chris has been several times being a Philly native. Oh, I know about this.  Mm-hmm. I can Put together any narrative because if there's one video Give me three more now. There's an issue back You three more I can put together three videos of Elmo and Rosetta and Big Bird ignoring black kids Now Sesame place got a problem. You know, I need to see these videos because I saw the one Mm-hmm where they're like waved and then like we're like nah You got it. Oh man, one kid was apparently slapped That's not ignoring That's why I'm doing too much. That's why that's not ignoring That's about that. Yeah, that was why that me and him would have to fight. You ain't gonna do that to my kid like that now I didn't see a smack. Come on. That's it. That's what that guy did to Rudy Giuliani and the guy Come on. Hold on. Hold on. Now. They just now. They just go for He wasn't a slap But if you ever needed confirmation that Burton Ernie or gay Here's the thing that's gonna be I think funny about this when those hoods come off And it's black women There's three black chicks in a very quiet right now We got to be very careful, let's figure out who's under these masks before we rally the troops show I'm serious I see that they're doing protest and they're calling boycotts and they talking to the mom and the son the child Let's make sure we know who's under these masks before we go all in Yo, that could be a black woman under there. It could be a Latino woman. We don't know yet We're just assuming there's a white racist underneath those cost the cost of we don't know Yeah, that's true. I also say to that was the cake the KKK man. If the KKK found a new mask Yes, whoa, wouldn't you at this point though?    This is the new way to get your racist. Yes Dude, that's a great idea. This is what the KKK should do dress up like a Latino Sesame Street character She's Latino. I never heard of her Never heard of Rosie the art of Rosie never never heard of Rosie.  I know snuff a love against I know ask it a grouch Yep, yeah No Elmo Elmo's one God damn it. Oh, and what is Sesame Place? Is that like did they gentrify Sesame Street? Like what is sesame? What do you mean? What do you oh, it's not Sesame Street anymore? No, it's Sesame Place. Oh It's like Disneyland. It's like a fake Disney Yeah, oh god Okay, so I got to assume I mean I haven't been there in years I got to assume like at least half of the people who show up there are black Right, like I've never thought of it is like a white kind of Space yeah, wait what at Sesame Street white people don't watch Sesame Street. No, I'm saying like it's it's in Philly Like I got to assume it's a pretty diverse spot. Yeah, that's what I was saying that they had enough of them black kids Is that what you trying to say? well Just the opposite actually, I'm like you'd be working hard if you were trying to ignore every black kid Yeah, so he's just looking at it as kids possibly I don't know man. I think it's more fun if the story is racist But once again, yeah, we have to find out who's under the mask And then it's gonna ruin it all this is what always happened So isn't it more fun to think they're UFOs not like drones from China. There are you why are you so against extraterrestrials, bro? I want them. I enjoy that. I think it's more fun that we think that but we know what it is. I don't I'm not giving the Chinese that much credit. I'm out cuz Chris here cuz Chris here cuz Chris here I gotta see if he knows I threw it out there I want to see if his ears I did I'll confess that after you brought it up on another episode of Google day and didn't find that much I gotta be honest. They control the internet. Yeah, yeah, but I was like They control the internet bro, they control it. They make your phone.    Do we hear the clip?  Oh, yeah, he went in I think he even said no homo. He goes no homo Hey Well, if you look at the numbers the overwhelming proportion of people who have been infected are men who have sex with men Exclusive Group it is an infection that is spread by close physical contact Now I gotta imagine just ball slapping When you said men having sex, yo Fauci is a yo, what do you mean close skin to skin? Yo, what is this guy crazy? You think they're going wrong?  Come on, dude Super a yo Fauci. You're from New York.    Well, how close is the skin of skin contact?  Yes. Why are they saying?  That's I think that that's homophobic. Yeah, I don't I didn't get it Especially if it's not an STD. What's the point?  Come on Pull it up the shows you got the audio Well, you wanted to sue because of a bad first date for why watch watch watch She's a Michigan woman. She's she went viral. She had a nine-minute zoom court appearance She's suing a man for $10,000 for intentional affliction of emotional distress She claims the man intentionally hurt her feelings when he did not show up and left her on her deceased mother's birthday Her mother had just passed away She accused the man of committing perjury and documents she presented to the court the judge tried many times they explained to her that Perjury can only her under open a courtroom. Wow. She was not trying to hear it She's swapping down. She understood the definition of perjury.  I love this girl, bro. Let me see it I thought this was just gonna be thrown out It was we had a date One date and nothing else after that and now I'm being sued for $10,000. I think it's a waste of your time And letter in that letter he lied That's what brought forth the perjury. It was never perjury in the beginning It was perjury after his response You can't add another count because you don't like or you disagree with what is in his answer If he respond and his response is a lie. It's perjury First of all, do you understand what perjury is? Perjury is a statement of a false statement made under oath He doesn't understand what it's a false statement made under oath He doesn't understand what it's a false statement made under oath What you need to testify is something that he lied about It's a false statement made under oath Bottom line is you said it's a criminal offense, so I will send it to circuit court. Are we done here?  Yeah, is that not a man's prerogative ghosted her or something What is that called ghosting ghosting? Yeah, he goes to her Can I not do that? Can I not show up and then honestly he probably didn't want to deal with it He like oh, he was like man, I do want to go out with her for her mom. Just died. I don't want to be that dude I don't want to be the grief counselor. You know, yeah, like that could be that could be very emotionally draining Draining especially if it's just a date. It's one thing if you and the girl had been kicking it before Yeah, you know y'all already was in a relationship with a first date Have you had a first date schedule with somebody and it was like, yo, my mom just died But I still want to go out would you do it?   I don't have no idea that grieving sweet Jesus Christ You never had a grieving mouth.  That's true. That's a fact. Chris. Chris. Would you like to comment on this? Would you go? Uh, I don't have you know, I'm so far removed from this sort of situation. I know right?  I've been with the same woman for 24 years. What is the first date? Yeah, first, uh, uh, how do we make it more, um, relatable for you? Nope I don't want to relate I do not want to relate at all I'm just saying the the if you if you have a grieving gobbler trying to give one of them them sweet sucks By the way, there's some you know, it's so funny you say that that it makes it makes them feel better actually Head is an oral fixation. It is why people smoke cigarettes are like people do the chew sticks or whatever else Some and what's better that she that she goes out drinking and has alcohol all night Right be depressed at least she's doing something that makes her happy right and it makes someone else happy. She's given There's altruism to it. I think that's actually the best way to get over the loss of life It's just gobbling up.  Some people get off on making somebody else happy. Yes, so even especially when they're down That's right. Yeah, it's like drugs, right? It's like you're that one hit You know what i'm saying and then you You forget everything for the moment. Yes for the moment. Yes, you know what i mean, but then it like Still got to deal with reality at the end of the day. Yeah, so I I don't know why the young ladies soon I really don't what is this? Oh and they crashed the funeral because the chicks are horny. Yes. No. Yes. You ever seen this No, I've never seen wedding crashes.  He not even invited to the few That's will ferrell. Yeah. Yeah Dang, that's 2005. See you can get that off in 2000. Hell. Yeah.  It'll be a people acting like they're triggered by this scene at wedding crash on wedding crashes Did somebody get it in? Oh, yeah Who will of course bro Wow Yeah, no, this movie's fine.  He was just running. It was uh, what is it? Brothers that brothers was crazy anchor man anchor man crazy.  I wonder who was writing all of that stuff at the time Mmm I think and I don't want to take away from the writer, but I also think like Will is the type of guy that You know, there's gonna be certain words on the page and then there's gonna be he's gonna bring them to life Yeah, and like also will is gonna improv and he's gonna you know have his things.  Oh, yeah, and he's just great Keep us up posted on that michigan trial. I'd like to see what happened to sending healing energy to the uh No, kevin gates is a man. Can we get kevin gates on the podcast kevin gates? I think he's the man He's very honest Yeah, you know and there's certain things kevin says and I believe like when kevin says he can start a car With his bare hands I have no reason not to believe sure kevin gates because of the things that I know I can do You know what I mean? Yeah, breathe underwater Levitation Wolf um turn yeah turning into a werewolf like there's just certain things What did what did he say that it was something you said? Oh, please play this Please play this bro. Now. I have had some disappointments.  Oh my god. You do that. What? Oh my god I tell what god love the truth But some women haven't been trying properly how to clean themselves.    Oh, okay. Y'all women don't know that your uterus is getting stuck around whatever She was feeling that right there. I like a lot.  Yeah, why y'all ain't doing that on tiktok. Are you still eating? What What you mean I'm 44 I don't have much after that show I told y'all before the show started.   You don't eat them all No, of course Hey Crispin ride long enough. You're not eating crisp. Of course. What else we got? I'm paranoid about uh, throw kids for though What yeah, that's right It's a big thing. What what's his name? Michael douglas. Michael douglas. Yeah.   Yeah And his wife is famous. Who's his wife? Uh, kathryn zeta jones kathryn zeta jones, man because she had hpv Yeah, I guess wow If a woman has hpv A man's chances of getting throat cancer goes way way But also men get hpv too.   Hey, it's lute all the jamaicans now. You got a new a more progressive reason No, throw cancer. That's right, right and they smoke all the time think about that They smoke all the time not a single case of throat cancer in Jamaica.  Oh my god. That's our monkey pox. You eat that monkey So you think that's listen, so that would be more a more effective commercial now Can you back back to these to put the microphones to the guy's throat for the smoke commercial? I tried to keep my wife happy She left me anyway and she took my pro That's actually a great idea I was married for 17 years. It cost me my larynx. Oh, man I jump up and gargle now. I'm serious. Really? No, you don't. Yeah, I do. I run to the bath. No, I try not to swallow That's that's Not that I don't make me feel bad That's the wife, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's so insecure. Yeah. That's come on. Yes. Nothing personal What are you saying, Chris?  I don't want that throat cancer.  He'll gargling is wild passive aggressive.  I'm impressed that you got the energy to even go gargle after that I'll be out of priority. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be out like a like the first Safety first Taylor pull up uh rick ross Pull up rick ross.  Let's hear it. Let's hear what ross had to say about eating off.   I got it. Yeah. Yeah, you ever had to slip up Come on, Rose slip up I'm sure that's what you did. You ain't slip up True. So you from top to bottom is a long way I'm just letting you know it that ain't a rose thing right there Okay, you know I don't like it, but I'm a respect it. That's cool, too But and I want you to respect the feed on from your neck down. Whoa, if I splash your face Whoa, yeah, he's well, uh, whoa Yeah, you know what happened. I know he turned it into a peak. Um, yeah, that was well But also like how far do we need to go with all this like how much do we need to eat? I mean, it's only two things to eat.  Exactly Hair they don't have toilet paper.  You can't like douche or anything like that But you had like a yeah You probably had some sort of servant that would just run up in there That's probably why they named it eating cat because they got it from watching cats the cats clean themselves Cats was cleaning themselves.   It's getting too much It's getting too much. I don't want to take the same risk.  Oh my god. How could you and it's like The porn that you watch is stepdaughter porn.    Is that going to be a video? That's is that allowed. I'm sure that's on there. I would never google it. That's too far. We can acknowledge that's too far Right. I don't know if there's anything. It's too far anymore, man. Bro stepchild is illegal. I'm with you I agree with you. I agree with everything you're saying, but I don't think society as a whole Thinks anything goes too far anymore. Yeah that and that's the problem. Yeah That's the problem. And I always say like if if if every if one thing causes if if everything causes outrage Nothing's outrageous. I feel like that's where we're at.  Yeah, we literally went from Kev, uh, Kevin Gates.   Yeah, like he's nothing bad.  Are you Taylor?  You're gonna move. Yeah, you do. That's swiss army knife. You got down there It's true. Yeah, tell her you're gonna move faster based on certain things Somebody pee on you. You're gonna move a little faster.  You're gonna really move fast. Somebody throwing up that neck. You're gonna really move fast But you know a little sweat you be like You know what i'm saying Sweat and pee are the same thing No It is but no Not that it should be right Like you play d on someone sweating. You play d on somebody sweat.  That's what i'm saying That's right.    I don't isn't he coli everywhere.  What do you mean? Yee coli That's not it We just shooting, baby Did you guys see the video out of philly with the woman who got up?  They're the atlantic like they literally live underwater It's gonna be rough, bro. Yeah What if Wakanda is like finally we need your help white people Might be Carl Ross, bro Not rick Ross officer Ross. What you about to say chris? Yeah, just on the whole Shit thing there was a video out of philly a black woman got very upset because there was a white guy at rest They were eating at a seafood restaurant Outdoors, you saw you know the one i'm talking about And it was hot out so the guy wanted to give his dog water But he was feeding the dog water out of a glass From the restaurant. Yeah, and she got Super offended and was like that's disgusting. I can see. Yeah, is that that disgusting? Yes I mean, I can see why someone would take exception to it for sure because it's just he's like I could be drinking out of that glass next time I come here Right, but I could be drinking out of a glass and I had COVID and i'm still in the restaurant.   You don't want to see it.  Man, you don't want to know that I'm the parent. You know what I mean? I'm the parent. You're the parent. I'm the parent.  Like I don't want to misquote it It's so crazy.  Jesus Christ All right, um, you want to pay some, huh? You want to do an ad? Let's do an ad Let's do an ad Then I want to come back and talk to my guy chris morrow about his new project summer of 85 Uh, today's brilliant idiots episode is brought to you by bluetooth Yes, sir salute the blue chew man, uh, you got three people on this podcast who absolutely positively need blue chew Dank hey, um, show it. You're not 40 yet, right? You're almost 38. 38. Yeah Me and chris are over 40 chris. You did almost 50, right? I wish I was almost 50. 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All right church announcements Showed you got any church announcements? Yes, man I just want to thank everybody so much for sharing the special and watching the special and buying the special It was uh, absolutely It was it was absolutely amazing. I'm posting something earlier today. I'm not sure when you guys are seeing this But um, you know, a lot of people were reaching out and they're asking if I made my money back And uh, we made it back three times so far Terrifying going in but it feels very good And a lot of people are like, uh, you know, and I believe in betting yourself But I think this is really just betting on on people's support and that made me have so much confidence The fact that there was a lot of people that I believe Support me and so many people shared you shared. Thank you so much for spreading the word like It was it was really awesome.  Yeah. Yeah, but they they you know, they said what you did the first day I don't know that was true But they said what you did the first day and I sent the rock thing and I was just I I sent a couple spicy little emails. I just just like, you know, like The people listen what you said is true about the people's support There's one thing to bet on yourself. No, you're betting on the people I'm betting on the people Yeah, and that it says a lot about you know, your fan base and how your fans rock with you and how you know Your fans will show up 100% you know, it felt good. It just felt I felt really justified and uh Yeah, I just I don't know the people want Good comedy. They want uncensored comedy.  Meaning like you're not supposed to have this. This isn't good for you.  And they tried to do it for you and It worked out for you.  So you think you would do it I mean you said you were scared, but did you think you would do it that fast? That's what I had honestly dude. I had no clue right my I had no clue I assumed because I honestly the only way I could map it out was through like pay-per-view boxing matches So I was like when do I get most like I buy that right before the fight? So I'm like, okay, we're probably gonna get a spike before the fight So don't freak out a week or two before if the number's not there right and The support before was great But then the night of was crazy and then the next day was crazy and then the next couple days So right now we're a few days in it's it's still crazy So I think what's happening is like a lot of people are maybe like hearing about it and going to get it And it's only up for 12 more days or not whenever this comes out It's july 31st is the last day it's up for so then what? Then I'm taking it down, bro Really? Yeah Because I think I think you got it I think you got to create some urgency like they're great specials like stand-up specials that are online right now Did I even find myself going I'll get around to it Yeah, yeah, yeah because it's always there and it's always there at your convenience And they're great comics And I'm like I don't want that. I want this piece to be indulged right now. You buy it. It's yours forever But you only have this window to buy it. What if they so if they already bought it did they get to keep it? Yeah, yeah, it's yours everybody gets like downloader. Yeah Well, we're gonna basically you can watch it You have a link to watch it on the site and then after that you're gonna be sent the link that you just keep In perpetuity so you'll always have the link and then and then it was fire this uh gambling site that bet online Basically everybody who buys it before august 1st.    The Andrew souls.com.  So like this is This is grassroots as a guess. I literally have friends and then people That support and that's that was the cool thing is like We have enough of a community amongst ourselves with podcasts and just like influential people that like we can Create this storm That networks can't even create for their own comedy specials. That's right.  You know what I mean? Like that's different. You know what's that cause? Six months in negotiation. Yeah, let's get it. It's probably half a million dollars A million. I mean, it's 300 million people on his Instagram.  Yeah Not more than that. 325 million. No, no, I'm talking about for him to do it more a million I'm just saying I'm thinking the rock gotta be two million. Maybe two million. Like yeah, I'm thinking So for me, I'm like so grateful.  He's been supportive. He love, you know, he loves the comedy So so it's organic.  I didn't ask for anything. I was like, I love you just send it And you know, you know, enjoy it watch it whatever and uh, yeah, and he hit me back It's what he like leaves voice notes. So you like hear the voice.  Shulse and like I'm like But the rock you would the rock he has to love inappropriate comedy.  Yes 90.  Who are you talking about? Yeah, this big man used to let the n-word fly. That was a wild boy, you know, what? This man walked through the book and see you say my n-word and just kept moving. Yeah Yes He's super inappropriate. Yeah, but uh, go to the Andrew shows calm grab that and um, go to uh black effect.com slash podcast festival Um speaking of community. We have the black effect podcast festival happening sunday august 28th at the mirage in brooklyn I'm really looking forward to this man.  Um, who else is going to be there? We talk back podcast is going to be there Uh, i'm missing some people. Um big facts podcast with bank and scream and um J i said all yeah all the smoke all the smoke will be there. Um, mouse jones is doing trap carioca. Let's go We have a a woman in podcasting panel. We have a A business of podcasting panel. So man, it's just going to be a dead community. It's going to be food It's going to be drinks. We've got to be 18 to enter. Um, 21 to drink and just go to black effect Dot com slash podcast festival to buy your tickets. Are they going to be doing live podcast or? Oh, yeah, they're doing live podcast Interesting 85 south shows doing their podcast everybody everybody's doing their podcast live and wow Yeah, so in between everybody doing the live podcast We'll have a couple of panels because my thing is like when we talk about these communities Like people want to come out and they want to be entertained. It's like yo since we got all these people together Let's give them some information too. So why not do a business? Uh Of podcasting panel, um, you know, we're gonna have vendors there You know that some of the vendors will have on deck by people that can probably help you start a podcast Whether it's with microphones or whatever else. So yeah, man, sunday august 28th at the mirage in brooklyn The first ever black effect podcast festival. Uh, we hope we hope to see you there and my second I got three church announcements. This number two number two uh Hell of a week which is formally the gods on his truth. It premieres thursday Uh, july 28th at 11 30 p.m. We got a new name and a new night The new name is hell of a week new night is thursday's immediately after the daily show So as soon as the daily show goes off on thursday nights hell of a week comes on Um, great great name and uh, one of one of one of one of my first guests is here with us today Let's go. His name is uh, andrew shoach. You might know him as the hezzy. Let's go. You know what I mean? And andrew i'm telling you right now I need you To really be andrew. I'm showing up. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I'm showing up. He's got the green light Yeah, I need you to be and can I shoot? Yeah, I need you to shoot. Can I shoot shoot? I need you to shoot. Can we can we make something about all the comedy executives that fronted on you Especially ones that comedy central They all got fired Bro, I'm vengeful Bro, it's that simple. We can work together. We can make money together or you can lose your job.  Now this season i'm doing i'm doing panel. You know what i'm saying Okay, so what what can we do? What can we say? Are there other people on the panel? How many of us are there? Oh, I think i want to do I think i want to do three three.  You know what i'm saying when it was us and we were just talking like it wasn't really No pressure. It wasn't too much heavy lifting for me It was just like how we do this. It feels better. It feels, you know more natural To me.  Don't get me wrong But a lot of people that are great interviewers don't have the muscle that they can just Also have hot takes and be funny And I think you probably were known first for that and then later on for your interview Yeah, absolutely like interviewing was almost something you developed later. So In when I see you on a show I don't only want to see you asking questions to less interesting people Right.  He has to he has to be staffed. He's a shooter bro But So I do like that like if we're just talking where you can We don't bounce back and forth. We can all have our hot takes we can react We can like feed off one another, but it doesn't have to be a thing where it's like and how do you feel and how do you feel? That's right. That's right. Like talk those people on the panel. They gotta step up like you're here for a reason. Yeah And I like community man, you know what I'm saying? Like it feels good when like I get if you watch That's an uncommon sense if you watch the gods on the truth last season like the last few episodes It was more community based I'm saying like I want to have people in there that we can Talk and riff and all of that type. So yes, that's that's what you'll see Build you'll develop characters for the show too. Like you'll have the people that like Will continue to come back on that's right and for whatever reason they're the perfect person to have a hot take about This thing. That's right. That's right. So next Thursday, uh, 11 30 p.m. What is that july 28th? I believe can we get dr. Umar? I got you know, I'm having dr. Umar on this can I go on with dr. Umar? I would love that. We should have dr Wait, wait. Can I give you the panel? Can I give you the panel? Come on talk to me?  We're gonna make that happen. I promise you that is internet I promise shut down. Damn.  What's wrong with it? That's my only thing. Yeah Sean act like chris. He's like he's concealed.  So you know, I think you could get him to do it Even if it's via zoom it'd be fun, but it'd be better live What if I what if I jab him with a 23 and me test live? What if I do that? What is that? We'll know in 30 minutes. No, even better. You tell him it's a COVID test. So he does it before the show And you get the results back Our two weeks prior you say, yo, you gotta send in your COVID results. No He's gonna steal the COVID results for the dna, right? Bro Yes Um, but make sure you tune in next Thursday right after the daily show hell of a week. Uh, that's at c this show Um, and third church announcement, uh, right now Uh, we have a new project out, you know, um, me and kevin heart. We got our Uh company at audible called sbh productions our first release was finding tamika. We put that out earlier this year Our second release is summer of 85 man. It's so interesting how god works, right because We had these four or five releases that we were putting out. Um, this year And you know, it's not like we planned it this way. This is just the way things divinely happened But you know finding tamika was a project. Um about tamika houston Who was a young black woman who went missing in the early 2000s in spartanburg south kerala? You know what i'm saying? That's my home state and now Summer of 85 is this story about something that happened in philly. That's kevin heart's Oh, you know home in hometown home state So it's just like it's just interesting how that worked But uh chris morrow is the creator of summer of 85. Tell us about summer of 85 chris. What is it? Well, summer of 85 is like you mentioned sph productions Which actually didn't know what that stood for until like a month ago.  That's messed up when you see kev. That's not the first thing you think about me and kevin We'll take it. It's not No, just the black no short no handsome. Oh, it's probably short and black handsome subjective. That's the one is Is it only named after kevin me and kevin short black and handsome.  I did I did a podcast started I did a podcast on the west coast bro, and there was this girl in the podcast and uh, I walked in No, she they asked her if I was handsome. She's a filipino girl, right?    Yeah, it makes her eyes look so small. No No That was pre-planned she had it written out if she ended with that If she ended with that there was a setup. Did she end with that? No, because I had some things to say But that's my point. Was that the last thing she said?  I don't think your nose is it's not that big. This is a schnapps. You got a piece, right?   All right summer of 85 sbh audible. It's a five-hour audio Docky series essentially is a fire and it's hosted by kevin hart Yeah, kevin. I read his voice to it. So that was really exciting And it's about the summer of 85 in philadelphia, which was notable for two things One was the live aid concert if you guys are familiar with that which july 13th 1985 this massive concert Where the goal was to feed africa because there was a This is ring of bell to you. Do you know anything about live aid? I remember that Was that run the whole we are the world thing? Exactly. So that's what came That's the song that they were singing it for right?  He's like we got to do a concert We're gonna do two concerts one in london and one in philadelphia And they picked the london one is the one that queen performed at so that's what london is famous for two things Queens everyone considers that queen's greatest performance and then also you two's breakout performance Because bono wades out into the crowd and that was a big deal on the 80s. So that's What's notable the philadelphia performance gets a little lost in history Uh, it's not considered the big thing is everyone was waiting for a led zeppelin reunion and it happened and it was trash And wow it kind of fell through but one of the things we talked about in the series is uh The philly concert was also run dmc's first big performance in a lot of ways This was a massive concert meaning today at the time the idea of I think two billion people watched it That was unheard of in the 80s. There was nothing two billion they got on network tv Uh simulcast beamed to the entire world. This is when the soviet union was still behind the eye and curtain This was everybody's introduction to hip hop nobody had seen hip hop third of the world massive massive concert Um, and it raised a lot of money for ethiopian family victims Which was great. So this was in some ways philadelphia at its highest point But then the other thing that happened in the summer of 1985 in philadelphia was the move bombing If you guys are familiar with that. Mm-hmm move was in an organization started by a guy named john african the early 70s that was basically Against the system. They were back to nature. Um, everybody took on the last name africa They grew dreadlocks and they were kind of locked in this war for almost a decade With the city of philadelphia. They had a a siege in confrontation in 1978. They ended up with a cop killed and that kind of like Really made things tense and then in 1985 they had built this compound in west philadelphia and it ended with The police dropping a bomb onto the row home that moved lived in Which killed um 11 people including five children the police department fire department essentially didn't put the fire out So it burned down 61 homes in the neighborhood and it is 85. It's 1985. This is in perspective. This is 1985 Where does the police get a bomb? They got it from the feds Whoa, and they flew a helicopter. They flew a state police helicopter over. It's a row home You got a picture urban philadelphia These houses are right next to each other and they dropped a bomb on this house and not only did they do it but because They were still bitter or What have you from what happened a couple years earlier and they killed the cop when they killed the cop You got to remember you had 300 police there hundreds of firemen and they don't put the fire out and they let it burn And this entire community gets destroyed Uh, so for me as a kid growing up I had paid close attention to the story My grandmother and her entire extended family actually lived on that block You know 40 years before that I was always very familiar with it And as a kid in philadelphia, this was the story the move bombing was what everybody talked about but as I grew older and uh, You know traveled into the world. I was always shocked that nobody had heard about this thing, right? What was the reaction from the city? Like, I mean, if you know You're uh, it doesn't matter if you're white black, whatever But if you you you see a town get bombed By people that are supposed to be protecting and serving like that had to have some type of reaction I would think well, I mean it was a scandal But what makes you know, one of the things that's interesting about the story to me is that it's a story that depending on what your POV is you kind of project your own take on it, right? So to a lot of people You know when you talk about black lives matter and police brutality like hey This is the ultimate expression of that right like what's worse than bombing a house and fucking killing 11 people But when you start to get into the story it gets more complicated It's more nuance and I think that's one of the things that's interesting about it For instance the cop that move was kind of locked in this battle with was frank riso who was an infamous cop in philadelphia, right? He was this hard charging take no prisoners Italian guy who had been a police commissioner and his police department was like brutal. I mean One of the things we we talked about in the series He ran one of his things that he ran on when he ran for mayor in 1970 was i'm going to make it till the hunt looked like the f word That's that was an actual campaign which which f word now. I don't know the one. Oh That one so imagine a mayor who's actually running on that is ouchy, right? Yeah, he's gonna make him look like felt right So but the mayor who actually dropped the bomb or who was in charge of dropping the bomb was philadelphia's first black mayor Oh, right. So now it's getting complicated. You have this black group that's in this row home That's fighting a black mayor and the black mayor is the one who actually drops the bomb and he should be in charge of the police department Right. He should be in charge of the fire department. Why doesn't he order them to put it out? Wow, why didn't they just raid the home? Uh, well, I mean they shot 10 000 rounds into it before they dropped the bomb The raid started at like six o'clock in the morning and they shot what this group had done is they had fortified Right, they had basically turned it into a fort. They boarded up all the windows. They built a bunker on the roof So they tried they actually set off small bombs to try to blow holes in it But because this cop had gotten killed in the earlier confrontation They didn't want to lose any more cops basically So they tried to to get into the home before and then a cop got shot in 78 So damn they held a grudge This is like a 10-year kind of running battle between the city and this group. Yeah And what was this group fighting for? What was their? So they're they they're back to nature So it's an interesting group because in some ways the things that they were about are things that are very much in vogue Right now, so they didn't believe in our sufficiency Self-sufficiency urban farming Policing themselves policing themselves They didn't believe in money. They didn't believe in holding job. They didn't believe in going to school But the issue was they took everything to such a radical extreme That it was impossible to live around them. So they didn't believe in for instance This is a small example. They didn't vaccinate their dogs. They had hundreds of dogs, but they wouldn't vaccinate their dogs You post a vaccination dog.   They just throw it in the backyard Well, if you start dumping animal carcasses in your backyard for an extended amount of time, what happens? thousands of rats Bugs roaches now you're living in this tight Community where everybody's row homes and all of a sudden you're attracting literally thousands of rats thousands of bugs You couldn't walk down the street um, they they wanted to have Their demands met so they built speakers on the outside of their houses in 24 hours for five days at a time They would broadcast kind of this political rhetoric You don't want to live around them. Oh, so the community was also very frustrated by them Right, so this is where it starts to get complicated And you you have this kind of middle-class black community that this is happening in the middle of And they want something done But nobody wants what ended up happening done. Yeah, so why would the uh city bomb I thought it was little africa. So I thought all of these people in this one section All were on the same page, but I didn't realize it was other families and everything mixed in So why would just uh city just bomb it and you know hurt some of those families? They didn't have anything to do with the move on to this. No, that's the you know, that's the tough question, right? This this was I mean one of the things we try to talk about in the series And this is something that kevin talked about is like, you know Essentially in white philadelphia every black neighborhood's the ghetto, right? Like that's how things were looked at in the 70s and 80s like and there's a famous quote uh where Bob gelloff who organized the lavet live egg concert they were asking him well Why did the city give you the stadium for free and he goes? Well, I think the mayor is trying to deflect from the fact that they bombed the ghetto, right? Like that was the perception It wasn't the ghetto like this was a really nice middle-class neighborhood Uh, it had been jewish. I mean, that's why my relatives live there And then in the 50s and 60s actually will chamberlain bought his mother a house in the block will chamberlain The biggest basketball star in the world at the time and then it slowly became an african-american neighborhood But it was like people took care of their houses. Everybody owned their houses on the block like this was not like Some rundown hood. So the question You know that you look at is did this happen because they were black, you know Would they drop a bomb on a middle-class white neighborhood and then let 61 houses burn Probably not they probably wouldn't have done it without the support of the community too That's an interesting thing if the entire community was pushed was supporting what this the mood project was it called Move organization move organization was doing it'd be a lot harder to drop the bomb But when you have the entire community complaining all those rats in the backyard cockroaches everywhere is music everywhere We can't sleep. This is awful. Please do something mayor do something and keep in mind the more wealthy you are The more influence you have in politics. So if they were a poor black neighborhood, there's a chance They would have no influence to get the police to actually do something But the fact that you have will chamberlain's mom living there, right?  Oh, they they struck a deal because This bombing happened in 85. I think it was in 83 wilson goods running for mayor Who's he running against frank riso the former mayor of the x cop? Oh Goods people come to this neighborhood and say listen, we know this is a problem We're going to get this out of here if you support us Now don't turn it into an issue now because it's going to work in riso's favor because he's the law and order guy He's the tough guy if we have this thing blow up again. It's going to scare white Philadelphia. So just be cool Let it let it rock and then once we're in charge It's going to be a black mayor and we'll handle this the right way That was the deal The deal was cut It just didn't turn out that way Imagine being from that community complaining about uh, the move organization and asking them to do something and then they come Do what they did and you get your house gets burned down too. Oh, and it's worse than that So not only do you lose their house? So that happened in 1985 They never properly rebuilt the houses, right? So they came in There was a basically a crooked developer who built really shitty houses I guess you can say The houses almost fell down So people have been in like a state of limbo for like literally the last 35 years. I mean that that neighborhood never came back What made you want to tell this story chris? Like what like, you know, because you're a filly guy And there's a lot of different stories you could tell what made you feel like, you know What right now is the time for some of 85? Well, you know, I think the first part about it was I was just shocked how few people knew about it You know before we started we were talking about tack stone and I remember a conversation having him with in the studio I had with him this part going back maybe four or five years at this point And telling him about it. He was like, yeah, I've never heard about that. That's the wildest story I've ever heard In my life tax has been in jail for five years. Right. So six years ago, whatever it was But you know, like even even talking to taylor, I played a little bit for taylor the other day taylor's from filly, right Taylor was born not too long after this happened. Did you know about it? Yeah, was you born taylor? 90 oh so six years after 85 So still I mean an attack on the american people by the government by the government. This is these are very rare I mean, it's so not the first time. No, it's not but it is rare. Waco to me is the closest analogy Nah, no, what about uh Tulsa. Yeah, black waltz grief Black waltz we're going back. Yeah, for sure. Yeah Um, and even that it was like vigilante groups. It wasn't it was like wasn't there like University wasn't there a university that the government attacked that was an anti-war protest. Yeah, and they attacked That was the national guard shot two students. Yeah, but even then that's not a bomb A bomb is crazy But that's what they did in Tulsa Tulsa. They did the same. Yeah, they did do aerial Yeah, they did aerial they dropped bombs when when I have neighbors that are playing music loud late I I do feel like bombing, right? I'm a Karen. Like, you know what I mean?   I keep her on my hip, right because when Do what you do, baby You activate her. No, you need the Karen right because I get to be like cool dad But Karen is going to be on it. You like cagney and lacy y'all the team was that was like cagney and lacy They a team y'all a team. Well, what's cagney and lacy? You remember cagney and lacy? Female detectives. Yeah Wait, they were female detectives. Yes. Oh, you know, they get into the bottom of everything Yeah Why aren't there more female detectives to be honest? I get in the iPhone. Just give us I figure out his password dumbass That's what you need. You need only female detectives. Oh my god, right though. Yeah, man Well, no, you're right a bombing of the american people should be I mean that's got to be part of the history Like but why would america make that a history?  And then, you know, I think the other reason I was interested in is I was I was watching live aid footage also a few years ago and the whole thing of Live aid was we're going to feed africa. We're going to save africa, right? Now never mind that the famine was taking place in Ethiopia It was it's not like everybody in africa was starving But that was like this mission that drove this massive concert and remember What I said earlier everybody in moves last name was africa, right? And I was like this is kind of crazy like you have the city coming together to Save africa the same summer. They're bombing the africans And so I was kind of like playing with this idea and you know, like there was a moment where very early in the process I spoke to a guy named Mike africa junior who's part of move Yeah, and his parents were very caught up in this and locked away for 40 years Uh for their connection with the organization and I was like he was born in jail, wasn't he? Mike was born in jail actually and you know, we were just it wasn't even an official interview I was just talking to him and I was like I'm just curious like did you have any feelings about live aid and he was like live aid man That was so fucked up They would do all that for africa after they killed the africans and I was like all right I'm on to something here. Yeah, it was arguably one of the most horrific days in philadelphia history A day that many in the city wanted to put behind them as quickly as possible But not mike africa's grandmother. She felt like it was a cover-up And it was a way to Whitewash and it was a way to try to like make people forget About what just happened and the idea that you're going to do this for africa and her words was you're about to Do this thing for africa, but you don't care anything about the africans And she was saying that like How dare you pretend to care? about the lives of anyone Especially africa africa, you know, unfortunately the issues it's talking about whether it's police brutality Whether the famine in ethiopia is still happening today Or whether it's just like really like the idea of the of cities or communities that are like split Directly in half. I mean how much are we seeing that today? Absolutely really that's always been america though It's just that, you know, we didn't have All of the platforms and outlets to see it so much in real time Like it's it's it's insane to think that america has never been Too divided, you know what I mean? I mean we're all americans But it's always been republicans. There's always been democrats. There's always been people who think this who think that like it's always been that way It's always been pro anti That's what america america's all about pro and anti right This story is this taken distilled down to its essence and then the extreme of what happens when you have these tribal splits Yeah within a community and you know the thing and I don't have an answer for but the thing I really was trying to get out through this series and everybody I interviewed and talked to was which is Was there an off-ramp and what I mean by that is you have this situation that's brewing for over a decade That kind of ends up in this terrible the worst-case scenario. It couldn't have gone worse Where were the moments looking back on this that we could have got off this this path, right? Where are the moments where when you see something like this happening? You can actually people can slow down and it just doesn't keep building momentum and nobody really has an answer for it so, you know, I think The hope for something like this outside of that is interesting and engaging is just that How can you look at the situations that are happening now in this country and figure out how to Take these off-ramps before You get to this point because it can fucking happen. Yeah, I think it's too late I'll tell you that all the time. I I think that we're Way past go. I don't think there's no putting the goddamn toothpaste back in the youtube at this point You don't think no, I think the only thing that's going to stop it Is the worst possible outcome? Whatever that potentially could be and I don't know That's taking move and then putting it across the grand scale. Yeah, right? You don't want that No, we don't you don't fucking want that when I think of when I think it uh live eight and I think good at uh The bombing a move that's both so american right right because that's what that's america in a nutshell It's about like, okay We want we we promise freedom right promise liberty. We promise justice for all But we're also going to keep these people from being free Right, there is not going to be no justice for them and you're not going to see no liberty Like that is america to me in a in a nutshell always, right? It's like I never understood Why you would want to take away that independence? I never understood the bombing of black wall street Like isn't this what you want? Isn't this what you want this, you know group of people that was enslaved in this country? They've figured it out. They've got their own resource. They picked themselves up by their bootstrap. That's that's what I kept saying about The the block that got bombed. Excuse me. Osage Avenue. I was like, yo This is black america playing by the rules. That's right. This is black america invested in the system They own those houses the block was well kept up. They would sweep the block every week They literally complained about the africans.  Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's like being chloe Every time I give you a chance every time I give you a chance mr.  He's living his best life, but he's young, right? I don't know They are Oh, they're not But uh summer 85 go get that right now on audible. Um, what do you what do you want the outcome to be chris? Like what do you hope this project ultimately does? Well, I mean success why i'm talking about for people like what do you want people to get from this? Well, I want them to understand the history of it And then I want them to think about how you can apply it to what's happening now not only in terms of america, but You know specifically for philly like i'll be honest like and again like to kind of come back to what you said I don't know if philly's out of control right now because i'm just turning on twitter and every two seconds i'm seeing People getting shot and then the city's sort of falling apart or if it's really happening but You know philly Is a town that you know has had some issues and I think you know probably that's why kevin wanted to You know lend his voice and get involved like I think You know one of the things i've been talking about is like philly never wants to admit it But we have a complex about being a second-class city city, you know really up to new york Even we really don't want to admit it boston Boston yeah, philly takes the backseat to boston. I didn't know that really those are the sports Oh Got you.  We're rough. We're tough We don't need anybody else. We're doing but if we're being honest as philladelphians like there is this insecurity complex Um, so, you know, I hope that within philly you disagree tale Jersey has that to philly but philly has it to new york to la to chicago to boston anyway so, you know like I just you know It's it's cliche, but if you don't learn from the past you're going to repeat it, right? and The fact that something kind of that crazy could happen You know this again, you know Tulsa, oklahoma was what close to 100 years ago. No elbow.  It's it's it's half a second So, you know, it's just really learning from this thing and figuring out like as The country to me at least i'm a little down right now just in terms of where things are at I do feel like things are spiraling. So again, it's just this idea of like How do you pull back look at something that seems to be this kind of march towards This kind of inevitable ending and say yo, how can we pull back and fix this thing before it goes there? Let's talk about it. How do you How do you pull back the force again and make sure?   I am not doing it because it's it's here the thing It's like it's literally like five worst case scenarios all happening right now Like we always talk about america because we're arrogant shit, right? So we talk about the racial tension and how civil rights and stuff being uh, you know pulled back What about climate change is really fucked, bro.  No, no It's just who cares. Yeah, right it out.  See that's the difference man. Once exactly once you have kids Don't bring me into that work right once I have kids they're not worried about them But until that let me enjoy this now. I will say this shows his point They get when you have kids you're worried about the world that they're inheriting. They're inheriting. Yes. That's what you got The show to this point. I um Like I've always been a very god-fearing person But the reason i'm really giving it to god and maybe even leaning a little bit more into religion now because I gotta believe in something better here and I gotta believe that me and my family are all to the end That's why Out there, let me in please I'm crazy dude. I lied. You're over Jesus everybody who's got the gates. Who's ever at the gates? I think you're right. That's what's going on in field service on sunday. Ain't got the ash on your head But no, it's true because I I have to believe there's something better here because I think First of all, I think god has had enough of it, but I think the earth is repelling When you see singles just opening up in the Bronx like And that's the place to start if you're going to you know what I mean, like is it rebelling? Is it just tidying up a bit? You know Like yo the earth is going to correct itself There's nothing we have to do trust me. The earth is going to correct itself And the earth is going to get rid of every single virus That is causing it problems dinosaurs were cool. They got annoying or it gets rid of it Humans are next. Okay.  We ball we ball You just got your ppp long. You know you're going to jail Enjoy Have some fun guys. Oh my god, man Chris unless you got some better options We're balling bro.  Kylie's 13 minute private You know how many private jets took off on that day? I'm sure. You know, I mean regular commercial flights took off that day I'm sure like what are we talking about like we're always just looking For individuals to blame when collectively we have failed We this is a group assignment we fail.  It's okay. Just saying life. Well, great Summer 85. Okay. So I got a summer 85 the audible original go get it on audible right now Fictional story never happened. So just it's much easier to enjoy like that from the creative genius of Charlottes Bay in the car That's all chris morrow. Shout out Nicole Shelton too. Also, always Nicole. Yeah, Nicole smooth to Tara But do you think there's any solutions chris seriously to to climate change everything this would something broad give us Yeah, I mean there's always a solution The question is do we do it the easier way which to start working towards it now?  You know, that's what we'll have I just saw 300 cows died right all of them at the same time simultaneously bomb beef everywhere Well, did somebody use the beef for something? They should I don't I'm but it's 300 cows. It was heat, right? Yeah, I saw that they said it was heat stroke.  You're not built for this If anybody wants to read not built for this like You're supposed to be an outdoor animal like you outside Imagine the cow on the chip liquor was like Now you're dead.  So like yeah, what's the book chris ministry of the future You know, it's horrible for the environment.  Yeah So that's the uh, that's the world correcting itself 300 less cows factory factory farming is is a very big part of Yeah Climate change why cow farts they have so much methane, right?  The go Are you here about that when he was playing cute? What when he was just playing cute with that girl when he farted on it.   It's already out. It's already out I need to check that out. He's he's an interesting dude for sure. My god That was the longest breakfast club interview in history. Oh you interviewed him. I didn't see that Like an hour and 45 minutes. Wow He what? Oh, I think somebody might have beat him, but he he was up there. But make sure y'all get uh summer 85, man. Um Yeah, thank you to sph. Thank you to audible kevin charlemagne this this uh Five hours of audio is a lot. You know what? I mean a lot of a lot of work on into this. Um, but people seem excited about it So I hope people check it out Like I listened so much I I watch a lot of documentaries now and I listen to a lot of audio scripted stuff And to your point Kristen's like your history just keeps repeating this You know, like nothing has changed like I was watching like I tell you about the brock obama doc It's like you watch brock obama doc. It's like every single same problem. Yep that exists now existed Then it existed during clinton and existed during reagan. So what do we do ball?  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Okay, now let's talk about a couple more things before we get out of here man. Um, Arnold Schwarzenegger I really don't know what happened.  And why is this woman talking about it? Yeah, I don't know Can you can you play a little of the clip teller? Schwarzenegger I didn't care for him. What was not good about big Arnold Uh, he's a little fooling himself. I I don't care for him at all He's a republican, which I don't like and he was actually quite rude.  You think he did it on purpose. He did it on purpose. Really? That's fire. You think he let it rip it was like from the buck? He's really like you really think he did it on purpose?  Yeah, but nobody's protecting any relationships. Nobody's just telling us all these real stories about what happened I don't believe he yet farted in her face on purpose. I think he farted in her Really? I think it's also funny. I do. Yeah, it's funny. That's funny. Oh, look at her. Who is that? I don't know. Why does she care? Is that rosanne? Yes, that's not rosanne. Who's that compliment? Who dude, that's a bottle. You know who that is chris? You know who that is chris? That looks like rosanne bought of me, bro. That looks like what's her name full of her name What's the other guy's name mariam? No, the da bar The da bar da got that. No, no, no, no the district attorney bar.   William bar. Yeah, that's Mariam Margoliles I don't I don't believe I personally don't believe honest. What's nigga farted in her face? That's William bar, dude That's William bar. She looks like a mix of William bar and rosanne bar, bro. Yeah She kind of built like a bar too You don't think she ever farted on somebody? Like when you look at it, you don't think she ever farted on somebody? I don't like her being that old judging people about farting. Yeah She was Harry Potter. Who was she playing Harry Potter? Look that up Nah, bro. She wasn't no Harry Potter. She farts. Look at that body Right She farts unintentionally. Yeah, it just comes out. Jesus Christ.  I asked you earlier.  It's about Philly kevin heart our family members in your pockets Me? Yeah. No, really? No, you don't have those problems? No, not yet. Did you see speaking to Kevin? You didn't see kevin with jay-z and what jay-z was saying about how you know He goes home for Thanksgiving.  They don't give them that because you're not you're not cousins in your grandma's living room Saying yo, man, I got this uh, I got this play. I want to hit you if you just give me You know me for the honey. I could make you two million. You like it don't work like that, man You got to explain to him like life isn't like that. Do y'all don't get that? No, really? No, you're not gonna tell me this is the black thing, bro My parents are still trying to give me money. My parents are still trying to give me money Really, you know like a hundred dollars.  Why? Because they're parents. Yeah, they just they don't want to stop parenting probably But let me let me ask you this. No, what's the right way for a family member To ask for money Well, that's a great question. Listen, I don't have any I don't have a problem with anybody asking right um Because it's a blessing to be a blessing, but also that's what the word know is for But I think the jay-z's point just be realistic Yeah, you know, don't hit me with the yo fam.  Yeah.  And guess what if you're getting it on friday Why can't you just wait till friday?   Please don't please don't please don't do that Please don't I mean, listen, I don't have no problem with anybody asking you can ask any way you want Only thing I would tell you is make it realistic because all I can say is no, right? Yeah Like that's it. Like it's just that simple like and if you don't respect The node and that person never really fucked with you.  That's all that's how I look at it That's how I look at is it better to not even try to frame it as a loan and just be like straight up like look I just have 10. That's right. That's it. No, I'm not first of all. I'm not giving you 10,000 What's the max five? It depends what it's for like, you know what I mean? Like it honestly depends what is for if it's for your kids school Well, they don't need it next year too. I'm not paying for your kids go to school.  Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I guess that makes sense That is a trick you're not getting asked for money, bro I don't know.  I I'm talking to tessa tessa is a A woman in charles and sake line. She works at the gill yard center She's Caucasian I only know one other tessa from charles and that's tessa spencer Salute to tessa spencer. I love tessa tessa the first person to tell me I sound good on the radio Inspired the hell out of me still a great friend of mine.  I go. Do you know andrew shoates? She goes andrew shoates andrew shoates. She sits down. She sits down next to me She goes, what do you think of andrew shoates? And I go, what do you mean? That's a broad question like what do you mean what I think of andrew shoates? She was like I want to I want to bring him here. I want to bring him, you know to the gill yard center But they say he's offensive They say they say he's so offensive.  He's funny and she goes and he sells tickets I'm like that's what it should be about. Yes if he sells tickets, yeah And if there's a demand for this product You gotta bring the product. Yeah, what does the building care?  Losing money being empty being empty is very offensive not being paid rent is very offensive All I'm saying is you went through that with the breakfast club, man You all you always tell that story, but like at first it was hard for you guys to have yes And then it got to the point where like you really weren't Popping if you didn't stop at the breakfast bar when you're dropping and like Because the breakfast club has the numbers. That's it. Simple as that. You gotta go where the people are. That's right So, uh, I would tell the gill yachts in the bookshelves because if not somebody and y'all this is about to Price went up. Whoa price to the brick went up. You know, I mean yesterday's price is not today's price All right, uh, let's do some asking idiots. Taylor Oh, man, so look the Deezus and Meryl Oh, yeah, man. So with my guys Deezus and Meryl Uh came out this week that um Deezus and Meryl are creatively going their separate ways Um, the show time show is coming to an end after four seasons. Um, those are my guys, you know, that's that's that's Uncommon sense alumni, you know, we were all at MTV two together You know, we all like literally I feel like we all started You know our TV careers together in a real way.  You hosted up. It was like a game I had a dating show A dating show the hookup. I think it was called jobs that don't suck. We did guy court We did guy court Duvall had ain't that America, but you know My man Paul Richie Paul Richie was the first person I ever come to me and be like, you know, Deezus and Meryl And I wasn't familiar with them, you know at the time and he was like, man, these guys are hilarious If they they were on twitter and I think they were on complex TV And so they bought them in the MTV too. And it's just like, yeah, we all were in those You know trenches together. Deezus and Meryl used to come on Uncommon sense every day every every episode With classical trash like they would you know regulars on the show Um, so I I love the evolution. I love the way that they came up, man And I'm not gonna front it really bothered me this not bothered me, but it was an observation, right? I'm like Deezus and Meryl have been doing great things in television Since like 2016 right since they after Uncommon since they got the vice show Didn't show time they get so much critical of playing. That's one thing about Deezus and Meryl I say it's like those white outlets Love Deezus and Meryl The variety Love Deezus and Meryl. Deezus and Meryl gets so much critical acclaim and hit a future or late night. All it is great stuff Never see black media cover Deezus and Meryl like that. Interesting. Why do you think that is? I don't know. So it bothered me this week when Now they're covered. It's so when you think it's a mess When you think it's some mess when it's a breakup All of a sudden you want to cover like they covered they covered the tweets when the tweets first started Then they covered the fact that you know the show was in there and they're splitting up And I was just like this is what's wrong With the coach Because these are two brothers from the Bronx Like there is There is new yorkers. You can possibly be they're called the bodega boys. They represent Blackness on a high level in these faces Yeah, and I never saw black media cover them the way that I saw them get covered And do you think do you think that's just because like white people are better at finding talent? Like what is your What do you think it is? What do you think it is? I really don't know. I never I'm being honest with you I never understood why Why why why Deezus and Meryl like why It felt like black media didn't cover them like that I don't even know what black media is right now when I say black media.  But y'all know the sites I'm talking about I don't want to single anybody out.  Why yeah, that's that's the only thing that's Interesting to me is like it's it's possible to do different things creatively and still work together Like we've done that for a decade pretty much, you know, so That's why I'm curious about what happened within the relationship because you don't have to stop it It's not like that that show is like all-intensive. What are the how many days a week were they doing it once a week? I think our dynamic is different and I even when I me and do always do hood state of the union because We we we didn't that's we didn't start together per se And we all and we do totally different people don't know them separately. Yeah And I never dated anybody before My high school girlfriend I can see that is potentially being suffocating because you're like, oh, I'm only known through this through this But what's wrong with that though?  What do you say to the wheels? Until you can't know. Oh, yeah Yeah, it's like you have them all. I don't remember. What was it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't know. Oh, yeah, I hear you man and uh Yeah, I mean you got you know, so it doesn't really make any sense for me to Octificate but hey, they had something that was great and it was really funny and they created great moments and they tapped into Something that was super needed that people didn't feel like was represented on television or on the internet And it might not be over like that's the other thing like it's like you don't know you never know what can happen in the future They might go do things create separately Yeah have some success might come back later and do something different just because it's not on show time no more You know, they're not doing the podcast. It doesn't mean that you know It's over over. I would hope not. Yeah, you know, I mean, I would hope it don't get to a place of Malice or beef or anything like that. You know what I mean? So I don't know smooth my guys, man These are some marrow.   Oh, it's taylor without a doubt. I was thinking taylor. It's not me I don't know. So it's not me. You're a good tyrant though I just know how people will be the most happy and I'll help them be that but I'm not a tyrant No, it would be taylor. No, I'd be taylor without a doubt 100 got that napoleon complex like yeah 100 it would definitely be conquering everybody Taylor be like in my presence you have to walk on your knees, right? They're like nobody can be taller than me walk on your knees If you're shack sized crawl when you greet me, okay 100 taylor 100 is that Joe Joe dole. Who do you think chris? Who do you think will be a tyrant for us?  I mean isn't That's sort of the same thing or is a tyrant like a bad king. I guess a bad king. Yeah, I'll think of bad king I don't know. I think everybody would do a pretty good job. I gotta be honest. That's the good That's the right answer I mean, everybody's kind of a king of their own little kingdoms as it is already, right? Yeah, like it's not like anybody's really a tyrant. That's the beauty of it Like like like everybody got their own little kingdom. We come together to form a great nation of kingdoms. Exactly Uh jojo dole underscore says would you rather have your girl fake an orgasm every time you have sex?  Well, I experienced both and Uh They uh, it's I'm happily married. So maybe that's the trick.  I would I would want her to tell me about the orgasms just so we can figure it out because I would I would I want real orgasms. Yeah, I want I want real orgasms in fake laughs. I'm not I want real orgasm. I don't care if the here's the thing about the laugh, right?  But when the jokes don't hit. Yeah. Yeah.  Is she convincing fake or is she going like?   Let's do Zeke Sosa Zeke Sosa says your entire if your entire field of work is measured like the NBA Who'd be your NBA player? Equivalent Buy a question Zeke Sosa That's interesting. I'm trying to think your your step thing for charles very interesting, right?   Yes. All right. Yes. I love it Steph I'll go with Steph since y'all said it since y'all said it Oh If you insist if you insist Oh, I can see it from your side though. I can see why you guys would think I am that guy But he said in my field. Yes in my field. Yes. I'm talking right. I'm gonna just say radio I'm not even gonna say media just radio because me radio is the the the tree that bears all fruit Yes, so for me is radio. Yes. So yes, you know, I think Maybe I look at stuff as top five, you know, it's funny. I'm such a maniac as well I was also thinking About me that's who I was thinking if there is a comparison I was thinking Steph because The way that I did stand up like with putting it out online and social media That that is the way the game is played now By the next generation and the way that Steph changed basketball That is the way that The next generation plays you ai me too for the same reason. Oh ai me too. Okay. Talk to me about that.  It was the people's trip.  That's that you're 100% now I will take that 100% I will take that that's fire. All right. What's Anthony Davis? Always hurt Great phenomenal hall of famer no doubt, but we can never see him on the court long enough We can never see him on the court long enough to play Okay, either either Anthony Davis or He's sick, but he's not he's gonna make it He's got an illness for the rest of his life, but it can't take him out of here Yeah Oh my god, man. Yes, man. Listen summer 85 is out right now.  It's the brilliant idiot's podcast. Thank you for listening


changing perceptions among farmers is something that I don't believe has happened. The reality is when you're out of step with everyone else you have to wonder who's in step. But I'd always feel that farmers always realized that food production and feeding the consumer was very important. That producing sustainable food that was environmentally friendly with high animal welfare standards. That's what we've been about all the time. And I grew up in a farm where my family are farming for 300 years. And as I said, there's everything on it from lime killings that were used to burn lime to feed the British Army during the Crimean War to intense a bull production today. So I don't think at farm level bear having to meet new regulation and change in standards. We've always had the same focus. But I am of the view that policy makers and regulators lost the plot for a while. And certainly at EU level for a while, food security, feeding people didn't seem to be what we were about. And Lars was here this morning and I was debating a bit of over dinner. Food security is so important. The growing world population, that's a target out there. We've always, as farmers, had the laws, the supply and demand. When there's too much of anything, the farmer gets nothing for it. The minute it gets scarce, we become appreciated again. And the change in the Irish economy has probably brought a bit of reality to people. And while the huge deficit that was spoken about earlier on and the pressure we're under, the huge unemployment, is a huge threat for Ireland. But we need to get back to basics and look at what we're good at. We've always been good in Ireland at producing food and to a high standard. We have advantages that several other countries haven't, whether it's our green grass, whether it's an abundance of water, and a very well-skilled farm and forest that's out there that have put a huge investment into their business. Farmers invested over four billion in infrastructure over the last few years, whether it's the dairy industry, the beef industry, or our broon industry. The agribusiness has geared up substantially over the last few years. We've made a huge investment and we're well positioned for any growth that's out there. We've bought into sustainability. We've bought into higher standards that the EU demanded of us. But the one thing we ask in return is a fair price for what we produce. The reality is in several years farmers have sold food below the cost of production. This is not sustainable. The reality is even in 2010 we've heard that agricultural incomes were up. 94% of agricultural income still came from support. So you can see how important the common agricultural policy, sustainable policies at European level that recognize the importance of food security and put an emphasis on that. The emphasis, we've no problem with greening. My view is that we've embraced it over the years. Permanent grassland, biodiversity. We meet much higher standards than most of our European counterparts. But we have to get credit for that. It's no use just in the morning saying we'll take a chunk of the single farm payment and we'll give you less of it to do more. There has to be an emphasis on paying people who meet these standards. It's well accepted that here in Ireland we have a very low carbon footprint whether it's kilo of beef or kilo of dairy products, dairy solids. It doesn't matter, our grain. It's accepted that they meet high environmental standards. But we have to get, and Aitton spoke about it earlier on, up the market chain. One of the things that when you look at it over the years, agricultural production has been rising. The percentage that the primary producer has been getting has reduced. The farmer has taken a lower share of the end price. Food to the consumer, I forget who said it earlier on, is too cheap, is exceptionally cheap. The reality is the fact that people spend less than 11% of weak household income on food is a reflection of how food is treated. And there's only one rule out there. When a product gets scarce, people appreciate it and are willing to pay. And certainly, I think with the world population growing from 6.7 billion to 9 billion, the capacity, in particular the southern hemisphere to increase production with the rate of increased population, it's not there. So there will be increased pressure on countries like Ireland, the UK, France, Germany, to produce more food. And we can do it in an environmentally sustainable fashion. Unfortunately, the minister and Lars are gone at this stage. But the messages I have are very clear for them that the regulators, the people who lay down the rules that we firm to have to bear in mind what agriculture can do for the Irish economy, what agriculture can do for Europe. And they have to make sure that they frame the common agricultural policy in that direction. Now, I'd have to say there's a huge and welcome evolution in thinking in Europe. I sat at discussion groups in Europe two years ago where you'd almost think food production was a blight on the world. Instead of seeing it as feeding the world population, there was a lack of understanding of how important it is. Certainly, that perception is changing, Matt. And I think more and more people out there are beginning to realize what agriculture has to offer. And a question came from the floor in the morning and I agree, we're not going to become the new building industry. Agriculture is a nice, slow, steady burner. For a short while, people took their eye off the ball. Farmers in the agri sector didn't. We're back where we should have been as a very important part of the Irish economy. We have a lot to contribute. We need a proper regulatory system that acknowledges that. And there's a prize there for everyone. There's a prize for the farmer, there's a prize for the processor, there's a prize for the retailer and the consumer. But there has to be a partnership that everyone gets their fair share in the food chain. And as I said, if I have one message here, it's that to acknowledge the importance of agriculture to the economy, because I'm very conscious agriculture and food, you won't have a food business without a strong agriculture. And that's probably the message I have for the European Commission and the government. And I certainly welcome the strong stance that Minister Coveney has taken since he's taken over as Minister for Agriculture. He's grown into the brief and acknowledged how important it is. And there'll be a serious test of his resolve in the budget in the autumn. But the one message I always have is value for money. Every euro you spend, you have to get it back there. And agriculture is the one sector that any euro put in in the Irish economy will deliver over and over again. Thanks, Matt.