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If you would like a commercial free experience, consider subscribing to our website at accountinginstruction.com or accountinginstruction.thinkific.com. Here we are in our Form 1040 example problem using LASERT tax software. You don't need tax software to follow along, but if you have access to tax software, it's a great tool to run scenarios with. You can also get access to the forms, schedules, and instructions at the IRS website, irs.gov, irs.gov. Starting at our normal starting point, taxpayer Adam Taxman, just trying to avoid a dang tax man, living in 90210 Beverly Hills. We're starting with the single filing status. We're going to say that they're back to 100,000 of the W-2 income standard deduction at the $13,850, and that gives us the taxable income of the $86,150. We don't yet have the dependence. We're going to be focusing in on the dependence and looking at the impact of the tax return from the starting point. We can mirror this information in our Excel worksheet. 100,000 on the income line item. Standard deduction from our table for the single filer brings us to the $86,150. We rely on the tax software oftentimes calculating the tax on page number 2, 14266. There's the 14266. We withheld $12,000, therefore taxed $2,266. And then the software is calculating a $43 penalty for $2,309. So here we have that, the $2,309 on the bottom line. All right, let's go back to the first tab. And now we're going to be adding the dependence. Now the easiest dependent to add typically would be just a child that's clearly like a sibling, a child. I mean, a child of the taxpayer, son or daughter, right? So we're going to go, okay, let's go to the first tab and add a child. So we're going to say let's do this and say we're going here and we want a dependent. And I'm going to just call it SAM. And birth date we'll say is on 010521, let's say. And did not die. That is good. Date of adoption not adopted. We're going to say social security number. We'll just say son. And we're going to say months lived at home. So that's one of the tests you will recall when we looked at the instructions. So here is our test.  And then if they are a qualifying child, do they qualify for the child tax credit? If not, then do they qualify for the dependent credit? So the questionnaire will typically think first, can I get the child tax credit? Then can I get the dependent credit? So lived at home 12 months, we're going to say type the child living with taxpayer versus child not living with taxpayer, dependent of other than child head of household and so on. And then we've got the earned income credit. So we could have an impact with regards to a dependent for the earned income credit.  And that's going to be the main credit that we're thinking of. So we're going to say when applicable here, dependent not claimed each year. So it's possible that you could have a joint custody situation where the dependent might be on your return one year and like on another return the other year or something like that, this year claim or suppress of the year. And so let's pull it on over and say, okay, what happens here? Now first note that I didn't change the filing status. That's the first thing you want to kind of be aware of. The filing status will not always change if a dependent is added. But if you're talking about a single filer, then it's possible that that dependent could push them up to a head of household, which is one reason that in a joint custody situation, that child is even more significant possibly because that also can have a significant impact on the taxes because we know that that filing status has an impact on the tax rates that will be applicable, more beneficial rates, and the standard deduction. So let's move that over too. I'm going to go to the detail over here and say, all right, let's move them up to head of household, head of household. And so there we have it. Okay, so now head of household filing status, we have the dependent in the dependence area here, social security number, relationship, this box being checked because we're saying that they qualify for the better of the two credits, the child tax credit as opposed to credit for other dependents, 100,000 still on the income, but now the standard deduction jumping up to 20,800, that's one of the major impacts. So if I change the standard deduction here in our worksheet to mirror that, we're now at the 20,800, head of household, getting us to taxable income, 79,200. There's the 79,200 page number two, calculating the tax, 11,131. Let's put that in our worksheet here, 11,131, letting the software do the tax calculation. And so then we've got the child tax credit. So here's the big one, 2,000 child tax credit. We'll talk more about this credit later, but right now we just want to note that that's going to be one of the significant impacts of having the child. Could have an impact on the status, filing status, but the credit is really the thing that first comes to mind. So for now I'm just going to show that over here on the other credits, child tax credit for child one. I'll just say, or Sam, let's put his name, Sam. We're not the IRS, he's not a number. He has a name, he has a name, Sam. Okay, so then we've got the 11,131 and the 2,000, that brings the taxable amount to 9,131. So we go, okay, there's the 2,000, 9,131, and then the 12,000 are withholdings. We have no penalty, so 2868 refund. All right, so there we have that. So there's the impact of that one. Now note that if the income is below a certain threshold, we could have an impact in terms of an earned income credit. So let's just to show that, we'll talk more about these credits later, but just to show you the impact on lower income individuals, like if I put this down to 25,000, I'm just going to get rid of the withholding. I'm going to go back on over and say, okay, so now we had 25,000 of income, standard deduction 20,800, which means the taxable income is only 4,200. If I mirror that over here, we're going to say, all right, I put income 25,000, and then boom, and then so 20,800 still, 4,200 on the taxable income, 4,200, page two, tax calculated 423. So the only tax we have to pay 423 then, but now the credit was 2,000 before, and I can't take the full credit to bring it down to zero because the top part of the credits here are the non-refundable portions of the credits. So notice what happens here. I can only get a credit that brings me down to zero, which means that this credit has to be 423. So if I go back to my credits and I say this needs to be 423, and I could get fancy with a formula over here to do that, like let's say I, so let's put the actual tax on this side. I'm going to say just to show this and I'm going to say, okay, this is the tax and then I'm going to put this over here. I'll just say this is going to be equivalent to this number. So when I type that number in, it'll populate on this side. And then I'm going to put over here 2,000, which is normally what we would get for the credit, but it has to be the lesser of this or this, right? So I can say I'm going to use an if function to do that. So I'm going to say this is if brackets, this number is less than this number. And I know I'm doing this fairly fast because it's not really an Excel course, but this is a logic test. So I'm saying if that number is less than that number, then comma, what do you want to do? Then I want you to take this number. However, comma, if that's not true, if this number is not less than that number, then I want you to take this number. And it's just a logic test so I can say, okay, so there it's going to take the 423. If this one was smaller, if this was 400, it would take the 400. So I'll put the 2,000 here because that's what I would normally get. And then I could say, oh yeah, then it calculated this way and picked up the 423 instead of the 2,000. I'm going to copy basically this formula down. And then I'm going to sum up the outer column here. And so that can give us a little calculation. Let's make this bordered. I won't make it blue because we're not doing data input here. We do the data input here. We see it populate. And then if I go back to my credits, so now I can see it's pulling in that 423, bringing the taxable amount down to zero. But if I go back on over, then I've got these earned income credits down here, which is partially based on the child, which is significant, as you can see. And then we have the additional child tax credit, which again, we'll dive into in more detail in future presentations. But just note that these two can be quite significant, of course. So for now, I'm just going to put those end numbers in on the payments and credits. So I'm going to say we had the child tax credit, and I'll just say that that was the 1577, 1577, and the earned income credits, which I'm going to say was 3441. 3441, I'm just relying on the salt where to calculate that at the 1718. I got rid of the withholding for the W2. So that means this brings it down to zero. No payments were made, but still gets a refund, quote, refund of 5,018. And so we go, okay, 5,018. And so there we have it. So these really kind of confuse things, these refundable credits. We'll talk more about them later. I'm just letting the software do the calculations for now, but just note they also could have significant impacts on the tax return, of course, and they also have funny incentives in terms of filing status married versus a single or a head of household situations. Okay, so let's bring it back up to the 100,000. So we'll bring it back to the wages of 100,000. So now if I go back on over, we're going to say the income, let's mirror this over here, 100,000. And then we've got the head of household status, to 79,2. So then we're going to say it on the end of page one, we're back to 79,200. Page two calculates the tax, 11,131. So we're going to say this is 11,131. And then the 2,000 now has populated automatically because over here in our credits, it's now taking the lesser of, which is now the 2,000 with our logic test. And then over here, I could make this one a little bit fancy as well to try to get more fancy with this formula, but I'm not going to do it right now. I'm just going to delete these. No earned income credit or child tax credit. If I go back to the first tab, then there's our other credits. So the tax is at the 9,131. I'm not going to put the payment back in place. We started with 12,000 before. So if we have a penalty on it of 422,9553. So 422,9553. Okay. So now let's say they get married. So now married. And so now we have the dependent going for married, head of household to married. Well, one more thing to note, if there was another dependent, let's add two dependents and say they were both children. So let's say just say child to get generic child to come on date of birth, out to 16, 20, 21 again. I don't know if that's what I put before. Date, social security. And then let's say this is daughter and oh, you don't, you don't name the woman. Right. You Patriarch Tickle. Well, I just got lazy. I was okay. We're going to say let's put it. Let's put her over. Let's put that here. And so now if I go to, if I go, now we've got Adam Taxman. I'm still head of household. So there was no change to the head of household status. That's what I want to point out. It's only when you have like going from single to head of household or possibly if you're in a qualifying surviving, surviving spouse situation where the child could have a significant impact on that part of the equation, but still has an impact for the child tax credit and possibly the earned income credit, which we'll talk about those more later if there were lower income side of things. So now 20,800 still here. Same on the first page. Page two now though has 4,000. So we're at the 11,131 same 4,000 now for the credit. So that's the major benefit that comes to mind. So here we have child two, child number two. Wait, that's over here. Child two. My daughter, we call her child two. Okay, wait a sec. I need to say this number is going to be, let's do an F4 here and then F4 here. Making that absolute. So when I copy it down, then I can copy this down. And then there's the 4,000. Okay, so let's go back to the first tab. So now we have the 4,000 child tax credit. And then so that comes out to 7131, 7131. And then 330 brings it to 7461. So 330, 330, 7161. Okay, so now let's say they get married. If they get married, we're going to go, okay, filing status. They're going to get married to Jane. Or who is it? Adam married Jane. Okay, we're going to go back on over and say, okay. So now we have Adam and Jane married filing jointly. So now, and Jane's blind. No, Jane and she's old and blind. No, that was for the last presentation. They're similar ages now this time. Get the story right. You're messing it up. 78 will say for Jane and she's not blind. Not that there's anything wrong with being blind. I'm just saying we're going, okay. So now she's, now we have the two children there. So 100,000 still. But now I'm in the wrong thing, 1040. So now she's, they're married, two children, both child tax credit 100,000 same here, 27,007 on the standard deduction now. So standard deduction is going to be equal to the 27,7 bringing us to the 72,3. So there's the 72,3. And then on page two, we have the tax 8239. So I'm going to say, all right, 8239. And then we still have the 4,000 is the same. So you can see this was the primary thing that was impacted here that it wouldn't change the status if they were married to have the dependence. The primary thing that would be affected are the credits, which also could impact the refundable portion of the credit. If the income was lower and possibly the earned income credit, which is fairly complicated that we'll talk about later. So 4239, so 4239, we'll just go here. I won't add the penalty down below. All right, so there's that one. Okay, so then if I go back on over, we have some of these other conditions that could be taking place here. So we could say that if Sam was over 19, then he might still qualify as a dependent as a qualifying child, but possibly not for the child tax credit in that case. So let's pull out the trustee calculator and say that he's over 19, but under 24. So I'm going to say 2023 minus, let's say 21, 2002, 2002. And so if I said 2002, and then I said that he was a student. So here not dependent head of household. No, we're going to say student age 19 to 23. Okay, so now if I go down, I'm going to say, okay, still married, but now we've got Sam is now a qualifying child, but not for the child tax credit, but rather getting the credit for other dependents. So still beneficial, but not as beneficial. So we're at the 72, 300 page one. And then on page two, we've got the child tax credit or credit for other dependents. And so you get the 2000 and plus the 500 basically is the idea here. We could take a look at the form by the way as well. So here's the credit for qualifying children. We might focus in on the credits more later. Now we're kind of listing just basically listing the dependents, but this is the major impact of the dependents. So here we have this, we'll go over that worksheet more possibly in a future presentation. But so 2500. So now if I go into my worksheet, I'd say, okay, the credits are 2000 for the child tax credit. And then let's let's pull this one down and say instead of having other credits, and then I'm going to say other other T H E R dependent credit. And so let's do, and so I'm going to leave some space in here for other dependents. I'll make that blue and bordered. And now this is going to be Sam is down here now the max is $500 instead of this and that $500 also has to be greater than the tax because it's non refundable. So I could do that fancy calculation. I can say, okay, this needs to be if this number is less than this number F four, because I want to make that absolute comma than what do you want to do? Then I want you to take this number. But if it's not comma, that's what the comma means. If it's not, then I want you to take this number and then I'll do the brackets. And this one needs to be F forward at four. Now this still isn't perfect because if I had multiple people here, then you know, they would both calculate something. So but the idea here is that if this was, you know, 9000, then it would take this number, right? But this is below. So it took this number. So it's not perfect, but that'll help us. And then the then this I was pulled this down. This is going to be the total other dependents credit is going to be equal to the sum of these. And then my total other credits thus far is the child tax credit total plus the other credit total 2005, which is pulling over to page one 2005. Then we're at the tax at 5739. 5739. So those are the major two impacts of the credit, right? The child tax credit or the other dependent credit. And then you can think about different variations based on this questionnaire, different scenarios as to when someone might qualify for those credits. And you can kind of see those on the data input as well. So if you look at the data input and try to question why the data input is the way it is, here's the relationship that's obviously kind of like the relationship test. It's helping you out with the relationship test months lived at home. That's helping you out with did they live with you test. And remember that you can get into kind of weedy areas with with that one. Try to because they might not have lived at home because they were in the hospital or something, which means they would generally count as though they were living at home for that timeframe and so on and so forth. The type child not living with taxpayer dependent other than child. So if they're not the child, then when we go to the questionnaire, we wouldn't be looking as to whether they qualify as a qualified child, but would be skipping down to the is your qualified relative possibly right. And so that would be someone other than the child. Head of household or qualifying surviving spouse only. That's fairly rare, but we talked about situations where head of household usually means that you have a dependent, but possibly you have a situation where it's not a dependent, but still qualifies helps you qualify for the head of household status. So that was a, you know, somewhat of an unusual type of situation. And then the earned income only not a dependent earned income credit. So we'll talk about the earned income credit later, but again, you could possibly have strange situations where they're not actually a dependent, but possibly still help you qualify for the earned income tax credit. We'll talk about the earned income tax credits later in the credits section. And then in here, student disabled force suppress with relation to the earned income credit, which again, we'll talk about more later, the child tax credit. You could suppress the child tax credit, suppress or applied for the itin because you that was you'll recall in the instructions where we had a situation where you might have applied for it, but you haven't yet got the number yet, in which case, if you get the number, then then it's supposedly, well, that's just kind of an unusual situation. And then we have this one dependent not claimed each year. So that would be that situation where you possibly you had a deal with the other parent most likely that of a split custody situation, and you're trying to basically split the tax benefits on a year by year basis, which again, gets kind of messy. But then you have if you click that one, you have suppressed this year claim in the odd years, claim in the even years, which might be a common type of thing that could come to an agreement on, you know, a joint custody type of situation. So that's the general idea. So the bottom line, if I go back to the forms is that if you're if it's going from single to head of household, or if there was a surviving spouse situation, then another dependent could be significant in that it might pull someone up from the the filing status to a better filing status, a much better filing status typically in those cases. But if you have more than one dependent in the case of a single or qualifying surviving spouse or something like that, or if you're married, then you're not going to get a filing status benefit, which would have an impact on the standard deduction and the tax rates. But instead, you're primarily focusing in on the credits that you would get a benefit for. If it's a qualifying child, as we defined in our rules over here in the instructions, and you can see kind of with the data input, then you might qualify for the child tax credit. We'll talk more about just the ins and outs of all the details in the child tax credit later, but you can look at it more on the instructions on form 8812. Typically you have like the $2,000 for the child. But if you don't have any tax, then you these above these credits up top that are non refundable won't take the tax liability below zero. So then you have the question, well, if it does take my tax liability below zero, do I still get a benefit from the credit even though I'm not paying any tax basically at that point in time? That would be not a refund. That would be like a welfare or benefit, you know, type of Chrome, like a safety net type of program. And so then we have to get into the portion of the child tax credits, which would possibly be refund refundable. And again, we'll talk more about that when we get into the credit section in detail. Right now we're just kind of listing out the dependence, which have a primary impact on the credits. And then of course, the child tax credit, if you're talking about low income individuals, you always have to keep in mind this earned income tax credit because it could be quite significant. And it's actually quite complex with regards to how big the credit will be if you're single versus married and then filing status, as well as how many dependence that you have will have a significant impact, as well as your income levels, which is strange because it actually goes up. I kind of make sense from a from an economics standpoint to incentivize work, but from a from a logistic standpoint, it's all pretty confusing. And so we'll get into that in more detail later. I also think the incentives are a little backwards, not only in terms of incentivizing people to work, but incentivizing whether, you know, couples should stay together or break, break up. If you break up, you get like $5,000 on the tax, you know, you could possibly, you know, this seems something weird, not quite right with that. But again, we'll talk more about that in future presentations.


Oh, it's quite different because it nowadays can resemble more like a sports bar downtown. They have no knowledge of the purpose of the Leeds and most people are good at volunteering when asked, but it's just another club. I don't like using that word, but that's how it is. So it's so important that they're older and they're becoming very few people and not much credit to them that do keep the interest of the Legion together. It won't last forever, but we hope it does.


My name is Cecilia Cheverria, I'm the executive director with the Institute for Health Policy and I'll be your emcee for the day today. Welcome to our fifth IHP forum. We've been thrilled to be able to host these over the past year and a half and they've been a really great place for people to connect and to learn about important issues that we're facing not just Kaiser Permanente but our country as a whole and we've been thrilled to be able to convene smart people to discuss these issues. So before we get started I want to go over a few housekeeping items.  So it has a copy of the agenda which includes the Wi-Fi password. So please take a look at the agenda for the Wi-Fi password. We have a one page overview of the issue. We have a registered attendee list and we have an evaluation form and I'll get back to the evaluation form in a little bit. If you have to take a call today we ask that you please do so outside or that you see one of our staff members. Staff are wearing a blue pin. You've seen some of the folks at the back registration table. Ask anyone with a blue pin if there's a space available for you to take a call. We're happy to try to accommodate you if we can. If there's an emergency please use the back exit where you entered. That'll be our emergency exit for the day. And as part of our day today we will be covering a lot of information and we're hoping that the conversation takes place in the room but also on social media. So you'll note on the table that there is information about hashtags that we'll be using to carry on the conversation on Twitter. So please feel free to tweet today during the event as well as after the event with your thoughts. So those surveys, those evaluation surveys in the back of your packet, we do need them. We do listen to your feedback and your guidance. That's one of the reasons why you have a list of the registered attendees today as we heard from you and we knew that people were interested in that. So please continue to give us the feedback and we'll continue to try and incorporate your suggestions as best we can. We will be breaking for lunch at 12.30 for those of you that really need to plan your next meal. So at 12.30 we'll be breaking for lunch. So now that we've got that out of the way I'll transition us to the official start of our program so I'd like to ask Dr. Mordechai to come up and I'll read his bio. Dr. Mordechai is the Kaiser Permanente national leader for mental health and wellness. He's been with Kaiser Permanente since 2003. He trained at Stanford University School of Medicine in child and adolescent as well as adult psychiatry. His clinical work is with patients with developmental disorders, ADHD and the range of general psychiatry issues. While he sees patients of all ages he's particularly interested in working with adolescents and young adults. Dr. Mordechai also serves as adjunct clinical associate professor of psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine. So thank you, Don. Thanks, Ceci. Good morning, everybody. It was a little tepid. Good morning, everybody. All right. I am one of those people who likes to plan my next meal. And the snacks are sort of in between now and my next meal. But anyway, welcome to our nation's capital. Welcome to our Kaiser Permanente Center for Total Health, which is a terrific space to do things like what we're doing today, which is gathering together. We've got a problem in our country, and I don't think this is going to be news to anybody here, about one in five. Some people say one in four Americans all the way from adolescence on up through adulthood at any given time are dealing with a mental health condition. This goes up to about a half at some point in our lifetime. So these are incredibly common conditions that people are dealing with. And yet, if there's one fact that always gets me, it's less than a half of people are getting any kind of treatment for those conditions. And you hear that over and over again, but let that sink in for a second. Less than half of people with these chronic and sometimes deadly conditions are getting any care at all, let alone evidence-based care. So the percentage getting evidence-based treatment for mental health conditions is much smaller than that. We could spend many forums talking about all the different reasons that these things might be. One reason that I think we just have to look square in the face is we've got a pipeline problem. We have a staffing problem right now. We don't have enough people to meet the needs of all the Americans who have mental health conditions right now by a long shot. And we know that our cadre of people who are trained to do these things are getting older and older and older. I was thinking this morning like, oh, I'm one of those psychiatrists over 50, right? Like, here it's me, right? So we need to think about the pipeline, and we will certainly think about the pipeline today. So we need to do better, right? It's not just a pipeline problem, but there is a pipeline problem. When we think about what else we can do, it's how do we bring these evidence-based solutions, which by the way are often far more efficient in their use of mental health professionals in terms of delivering care. So for instance, collaborative care. How many people have heard of collaborative care? That's pretty good. Okay, good. So collaborative care is an evidence-based program to bring mental health care for depression, anxiety, which by the way are the most common presenting mental health conditions in primary care, to bring evidence-based care into primary care, right? And you might say, well, aren't you just trying to protect specialty care? No, right? We know that when you do that in primary care, what you're doing is serving a population that may not have gotten care at all otherwise, either because specialty care is not available or they don't have any interest in walking through doors marked psychiatry or mental health or specialty care. So we have to do that. And it doubles the outcomes of usual care in primary care. I like to think like, oh, if Namer Pharmaceutical Company came out with a medication that could do that, you can bet we'd be paying for it, right? And yet, collaborative care is really having trouble finding footing even 15, 16 years after the evidence came out that proves it. So we need to think about how to do things better. We need to think about the pipeline. For our part, we are working on breaking down stigma. It's the right thing to do. But of course, if we're successful, we generate more demand. We're still going to do it, right? We're coming out with our third year of the Find Your Words campaign. I wonder, I'm going to venture to ask, how many people have seen anything about Find Your Words, any of our videos, any of, OK, that's pretty good too. Find Your Words is a public health awareness program that we designed not to trumpet Kaiser Permanente, but instead to say stigma is a problem in our country, and we dedicate ourselves to breaking it down. It includes videos and resources. You can go to findyourwords.org to check it out. We've focused it on people who are dealing with a mental health condition, people who care about somebody dealing with a mental health condition. How do you have difficult conversations about depression? We're even moving towards how do you have difficult conversations about things like suicide? How do you ask about that? Is it OK to ask about that? And the answer is yes, it is OK. So we're going to keep doing that for our part. We're working hard on our training programs. We have Dr. Catherine Wetzler here today who's going to talk about what we're doing within our Northern California region to train what I hear today is over 160 mental health professionals every year, and that's separate from the training that we're doing for physicians. So those are psychologists and master's level trainees. We have connections with top level universities to train psychiatric residents. We're actually starting our own residency programs in Northern California. So that's another piece that we're doing to say, OK, we get it. There's a pipeline problem, and we need to feed that pipeline. So throughout this day, we're going to talk about other successful strategies that we can look at to solve this problem. And how do we bring our existing providers up to the evidence base that exists today? That's another thing we need to do. How do we leverage them? We want to keep an eye on public policy solutions. And we're going to hear more about that throughout the day. What should we be getting behind to help us solve this problem, right? Own forgiveness, opening up more slots. There are lots of policy ways that we can make mental health a more attractive career for people, because it's a great career. And I think lots of people would think about doing it if they knew that they could, if they knew that they'd be supported in it, if they knew that they go into it, that they can support a family, have a place to live, have a decent life. So those are things that we want to make possible through public policy. So please, be an active participant today, ask questions, challenge the status quo, make connections, meet people. That's what we're here for, to raise our collective understanding and to make a difference if we can. So I am going to turn it back to Sassy to start us off. Thank you. Thanks, Don. So that sort of activity and engagement starts right now. We will be starting today with a poll. And we'll have a few others during the rest of the day as well. So there are instructions at your table on how to participate at the poll. It is on the little stand in the center of the tables. But basically, to use the poll, you text KPIHP to 37607. And there's instructions as well for how to do that from a laptop. So I will let folks get that going. But one of the questions we want to kick off so that we know who's in the room is if you could tell us what sector you work in. So please select the sector that best fits the organization that you're affiliated with. So we have a few different types, professional and member association, healthcare system, government. We may have the government people distracted today. But research and academia or non-profit community organizations. So take a minute to please complete the survey. So great. So it looks like a healthcare system by a long shot. Right, oh, we do have some government people. Thank you for coming. Great. Wonderful. Thank you. So it looks like about half the folks in the room are with healthcare, a healthcare system. We have 20% of folks with professional membership association affiliation, almost 20% from government. We have good representation from nonprofit community organizations and some academia as well. So thank you for participating in that poll and sharing that a little bit about yourselves.


You know, ever since I first saw the trailer for this movie, I've really been looking forward to it. So how did it turn out? Well, my name is Brennan Keith-Avery, and this is just my opinion. Hey, what's going on, everyone? Thank you so much for tuning into my opinion slash review for a wrinkle in time. I really do appreciate it. But before we get into the review, help me out by clicking that subscribe button, become one of my subscribers, also click that little bell so you can be notified when I make uploads and give me that thumbs up. Let's see if we can get this video to 100 likes. So you just saw the intro to this review to my opinion. And I said that I was really looking forward to this movie. I really have been since I first saw the trailers many, many months ago. This is a wrinkle in time is being directed by Eva DuVernay. I am a big, big fan of her work. And it's not that much work to be honest with you. She did Selma with David O'Yellowole that came out in 2013 or 14. And she also did the documentary 13th, which is on Netflix right now. That deals with the incarceration rate in this country, the United States and how messed up that is. And so, you know, she did a great job with Selma. She did a great job with 13th. She was, you know, the front runner to direct the Black Panther movie that's in theaters right now that's doing very well, which instead was directed by Ryan Coogler. Her Marvel slash Disney had some differences in the pen on the way they wanted to tell the story of that film Black Panther. So she decided to step away from that project and do a wrinkle in time on another Disney movie. And so this this is being based off of a book by Madeline L. Engel, which came out many, many, many, many, many years ago. I haven't read the book. People have, you know, mentioned to me, Hey, Brenda, you may want to read the book before you go see the movie, you know, just so you can compare. But me, I kind of like to go into movies fresh and not knowing anything. But after, you know, just so I can be surprised. But after I've just got back from a screening of a wrinkle in time, and I'm very eager to know the thoughts and opinions of those people that have read the book and how they compare it to this live action film. Now, you've probably heard a number of people say this before, and I'm going to say it as well. But I've always heard, you know, in the promotion of this movie coming up to its release, which is now that this film is unfilmable, unfilmable, that the imaginations just run wild in this book, and it's just so creative. And that would just be impossible to put that on the big screen. And whether that's true or not, of course, I am going to talk about that. But I want to do that a little later on. Now, about this movie also, this was in my top 10 most anticipated films of 2018. It's a very important film to me just because I am a big fan of time travel and the fifth dimension and things like that. And I do remember them mentioning the fifth dimension in the marketing material and some of the trailers. So that just really fascinates me. Storm Reid, she popped up. She's the main protagonist in this movie. She popped up in 12 Years a Slave. And I don't even remember her in that movie. But you know, Ava DuVernay, this is I said this is a very important film because she's a black female director. And female directors don't get a lot of clout, a lot of play, a lot of recognition or praise they deserve on Hollywood.   I'm rooting for her. Just like I was rooting for Ryan Coogler and everybody else that had to do with Black Panther. So just some things that I liked about this movie was Chris Pine.  He was the best thing in this movie to me. His acting felt real. It felt genuine. I felt a strong presence from his character. Unfortunately, he was not in the movie that much. And that is one of the downsides of this movie. But if he was in this movie, a lot more I can say that it would have been a lot better. Another like that I had in this movie had to do with the messaging of the film. And with that, you know, the underlying tone being of love, no matter, you know, whether it's a strong signal or a weak signal of love that love will always be there. And so that's just something that really spoke to me. And I really did like it. As far as everything else in this movie, I didn't like anything else in this movie. This was a painful mess of a film that was not put together very well at all. It was random. It was incoherent. It was pretty much unbearable to watch. I was very frustrated throughout this entire film, even with me going in with low expectations. Now I was excited about the film. Yes. But leading up to a few days before this film was released, you know, just some things were just coming out that just really wasn't making me feel well, just with the way they were promoting the film. You know, the embargo that was on the film that was it was released yesterday. And that's just not a good sign. It just really wasn't anything. You know, I just didn't enjoy the movie. I didn't it was horrible. I wanted to leave just some of the things that just were just pain, stakingly awful is first of all the acting. Chris Pines acting was great, but everybody else's acting was horrible. That goes that goes to Oprah Winfrey. That goes to Reese Witherspoon. And that also goes to Mindy Kaling.  But Oprah's character was named Mrs. Witch. W H I C H Reese Witherspoon was Mrs. What's It and Mindy Kaling's role was Mrs. Who.  Not only could Oprah act, but neither could Reese or Mindy, especially Mindy. She kind of felt like she was in her own little movie talking to herself the whole time, which was very weird. I felt that Reese Witherspoon needed to calm the F down. She was hyper all the time for no reason, just wanting to change clothes and fly around this imaginative world that didn't make any sense at all. And, you know, Oprah's acting just really wasn't that bad, but she didn't really bring anything to this movie as well. Now this film is actually being described as a venture family and fantasy. But they need to go ahead and put horror in there as well. Because there is a character in this movie by the name of Charles Wallace, played by Derek McCabe. He actually scared the hell out of me in this movie, not just in the end, but at the very beginning too. There was just something very wrong with this little boy. And it just gave me the ebgb's. He was a very uncomfortable character for me to watch. And another reason why I just really wanted to leave and get away from this movie. Something else that I hated in this movie were the effects. I don't know what happened in this film, but Ava DuVernay did not have a vision to use these effects properly, because they was all love of the place.  It just didn't flow. Everything looked blatantly obviously fake, like with green screen and blue screen. Oprah herself was like an enlarged Oprah. She was much bigger than the other character that shared the same screen time with her. I'm saying Mrs. Who and Mrs. What Sit, played by Mindy and Reese Witherspoon. Mindy, Callie. It was just weird. Oprah came across as an overgrown sparkly cooking monster. Something like that. I don't even know how to explain it because it's so frustrating, but this was just a big movie of visual noise.  It stuck there and then just started to ooze down. It wasn't pleasant. You can tell that they were trying to go for a film that you're looking like, oh my God, this is amazing. This is beautiful. This is Avatar Part 2. But no, it wasn't like that at all. It was the exact opposite. Please, please stop. Can we get to a normal place that my senses can somewhat comprehend? Now, the dialogue was crappy as well just before they went on this little adventure to try to rescue Chris Pine's character because Chris Pine's character is, I guess he's like a scientist or something. I can't really remember. He's just talking about how he can travel 90-odd million miles across the universe in an instant with using something called the Tesseract, which has to do with space time travel and things like that. It's a cool concept, but during his little discoveries and him just trying to figure things out, he vanishes and he's gone for four years and so Storm Reid teams up with Oprah and her gang of people and her little brother Charles Wallace and her friend and they are trying to bring him back, but there are some evil forces that's thrown in as well.  I don't know if this is about stopping an evil cloud that's coming to kill everybody one by one or go and rescue Chris Pine, Storm Reid's father. Storm Reid's name is Meg. It's just all over the place. I was bored out of my mind. I was annoyed. I was irritated. I was frustrated with this movie and I was about to talk about the dialogue. The dialogue is horrible. I mean there's one scene at the beginning of the movie where there's a teacher and the principal just talking and the dialogue is just so forced. I mean it's like really who wrote this thing here? Who put this together? The script is trash.  Like I said, the only thing I liked about this movie was Chris Pine and the message of this movie that had to do with love but the acting was bad across the board. The characters was bad including the three little witches or devils or angels or whatever the hell they were. The effects were bad. The dialogue was bad and really frustrated me more than anything else as there was no rules or regulations with the time travel. I was going in this movie only being able to comprehend the third dimension which we're living in right now but I wanted to hear some fourth and fifth dimension. I wanted to hear some physics and some math and calculations being figured out and problem solving and things like that and just some scientific breakthroughs that I've never heard before like oh you know the world like this but have you ever thought about it? There was nothing remotely close to that at all. I mean they're traveling across space and time using their imagination and that's not even fully explained. The film is just a hot mess. The soundtrack is trash. It doesn't flow with the movie at all. I'm just like okay the throwing in random music now. I mean this movie is horrible in epic proportions and it really hurts me to say that because I was really rooting for you ever DuVernay but I'm not just going to say the movie is good you know and give you a pass. This movie was not good. You are two for one. Two would sell them up and thirteen is one for this loss right here of a mess of a film a wrinkling time. If I had to rate this movie out of a one out of ten oh man I would give this a two out of ten yeah a two out of ten but guys you know I set all that but in the end this is just my opinion. So have you seen a wrinkling time or do you want to see it? Have I turned you on? Have I turned you off? Do you agree with me or do you disagree with me? Let me know in the comment section below. Let's get this conversation going and keep it flowing. If you liked this video go ahead and give me the thumbs up and if you don't that's fine. Go ahead and subscribe to my channel go to my website check me out there bookmark it look me up on social media Facebook Instagram and Twitter it's right at the bottom of the screen and I made it very easy by providing a link to all that good stuff down in the description box below. The second Avengers Infinity War trailer will be coming out soon and I will be reacting to that so subscribe. I also reacted to the Wreck it Ralph trailer I did not react to the Mary Poppins and the Peter Rabbit trailer but I know I'm really late I will be reacting to those and I do have more movie reviews coming out as well for the gringo and strangers pray at night. So guys I just want to thank you again for tuning in to my opinion slash review for wrinkle in time starring Oprah Winfrey Reith Witherspoon and Storm Reed directed by Ava DuVernay and before you go don't forget my name is Brennike Thaver and that's just my opinion. Peace.


What a start from Gate 4. It is such an advantage right now as they are then bunching up down the back straight, three of them. Oh, look how close they go. Penicent now Hancock around the outside in blue. Penicent don't takes him wide. Now Hancock tries the inside run. The meaner should fart off Schmarzlik. Oh, Hancock loses it. Wow! Now that allows Pavliksy to come through. Oh, Hancock did well to stay on there. He just straightened up the middle of the corner, did remarkably well. Now he's coming back up Pavliksy on the inside. Schmarzlik's away. Oh, Crikey have tight. What's that between Hancock and Pavliksy? Really close action. The American coming on strong again.


equent meetings being virtual. I know we have talked about the possibility of in-person. I believe that we have explored this. It is not possible given our technological shortcomings at this time. We will reevaluate in the next term should there be a next term. I also would be remiss if I didn't give an opportunity to a few people on the committee to have the floor for a couple of minutes to talk about Sunshine Week. I know that's coming up. Jay Posenko, our deputy archivist, has already previewed the National Archives Sunshine Week event, which I invite everyone. That is going to be on the 14th of March, but I want to open up the floor to both Dave Collier and Bobby Tolivian to talk about any other Sunshine Week events. Who wants to go first? Bobby, do you wanna go first? Sure. Thank you, Alina. Very excited to highlight our Sunshine Week at the Department of Justice on March 11th in the Great Hall in the main Department of Justice building at 10 a.m., but also will be live streamed. So we hope that you will enjoy this one. If you can join us one way or the other, we have keynote remarks from the Acting Associate Attorney General, who is also Archie Foyle Officer, as well as we look forward to recognizing contributions and accomplishments by FOIA professionals in different award categories for this year's Sunshine Records. And this year, we're very excited to have the most nominations that we've ever had over 70 nominations. And so we're looking forward to recognizing a good amount of FOIA professionals in the work that they're doing on Monday, both to recognize them in the showcase and incentivize others to follow their suit. All right, thanks, Bobby. 79, that's a lot. Okay, Dave Collier just posted a link, HTTPS forward slash forward slash sunshineweek.org. David, go ahead, please. You are now the new owner of Sunshine Week. Yeah, yeah, we're excited. So the Breckner FOI project is coordinating now Sunshine Week moving forward. And check out the website. There's two dozen events coming up that are posted and listed. You can get more information. A lot of them are, most of them are virtual, so lots of opportunities to get involved. We're still going to be posting more content, editor our cartoons, and that great Washington Post graphic cartoon on how to submit a FOIA request that they published last weekend for anybody to put on their website. So lots of resources there for people. And a great opportunity to celebrate something that matters to everybody in our democracy. So thank you. Thank you, David. Anyone else on the committee want to talk about any public Sunshine Week events? They're hosting at their agencies, not putting anyone in the spot going once, going twice. All right, check out David's website. I think there are a lot of different events posted there, both public and private. And with that, I just want to remind everyone, keep up all the great work. Don't give up now. We're in the home stretch. We'll see each other again as a committee, Thursday, April 4th, beginning at 10 a.m. Any questions or other comments from any of the committee members? Is that Elena the talent pool link? Yes, thank you for reminding me. So Mendy would like to point out there's a talent pool link that we're going to post on our website. It's a link to an OPM memo regarding the talent pool that the resources subcommittee has been discussing. Mendy, is that correct? Yes. Okay, all right. Thank you for reminding me. I appreciate that. Anyone else? This is Kirsten. This is Kirsten. It's already posted. Oh, we're so fast. We're so efficient. Thank you, Kirsten. I appreciate that. All right, everyone have a wonderful day and enjoy the spring that's about to come upon us and we will see each other again on April 4th. Take care, stay healthy and well. Thank you to all of our speakers. And...


Hey there, in this video, I'm gonna give you an overview of what Agile is, how companies use it to develop software and why it's still relevant today. Hi, I'm Spencer, a product designer and a workshop facilitator. Now over the past 10 or so years, I've developed hundreds of products in many startups and corporates using different processes like the design sprint, design thinking, and of course Agile. Agile's been a staple of many innovative software companies. For over 20 years, there's still lots of misconceptions about what Agile is and how companies should properly implement it. So if you've heard the term but aren't sure exactly what it means or if you're a facilitator curious about the applications of Agile, you're in the right place. Now while you're watching this video, if you've got any questions at all about Agile, please leave them in the comments below. And if you're interested in innovation processes like Agile and design sprints or facilitation in general, sign up for our free facilitation community where you can connect with thousands of designers and facilitators sharing incredible insights, tricks, and resources. The link to facilitator club is in the description below. So what actually is Agile methodology? Well, the truth is that Agile is not actually a methodology at all but there are methodologies associated with Agile. Agile is actually a set of principles and values that enable a team to be as flexible or Agile as possible. This is one of the reasons that even after 20 years, Agile is so relevant today. The world is constantly changing so businesses and individuals need to constantly adapt and make improvements. In a nutshell, Agile is an iterative and incremental approach to product management and software development that emphasizes flexibility, collaboration, customer satisfaction and speed of execution. Let's take a moment to explore the origins of Agile. The concept of Agile development can be traced back to the early 1990s but it really took shape in 2001 with the creation of the Agile manifesto. The Agile manifesto outlines four core values. Individuals and interactions over processes and tools, working software over comprehensive documentation, customer collaboration over contract negotiation and responding to change over following a plan. These values emphasize the importance of people, collaboration and adaptability in the software and in the development process. As previously mentioned, whilst Agile itself isn't a methodology, there are methodologies that have been developed that align to the Agile principles and values. Let's explore some of the most popular methodologies that fall under the Agile umbrella. Each of these methodologies is built on the core principles of Agile but they have a unique characteristics that make them suitable for different situations and teams. First up, it's scrum. Perhaps the most widely recognized Agile methodology, scrum focuses on dividing projects into smaller manageable tasks called user stories which are then completed within a fixed length iteration cycles called sprints. Sprints usually last between one and six weeks. At the end of each sprint, the team reflects on the work they've done and makes adjustments as needed. One of the key roles in scrum is the scrum master. This is someone who facilitates the team's progress and ensures that the scrum principles and framework are followed. Next up is Kanban. Kanban is an Agile methodology that uses a Kanban board to visualize and track the progress of tasks through different stages of the workflow, aims to optimize the flow of work and minimize bottlenecks. Unlike scrum, Kanban does not have fixed iterations which makes it a bit more flexible and adaptable to change. The most simple Kanban board has just three stages that a task needs to go through. The backlog, which is like your to-do list, in progress, which are the items that are being worked on right now and done. Well, of course, that's the stuff that's been completed. But you can also add stages to suit your projects such as blocked, testing, and what's up next. And the final Agile methodology is extreme programming or XP. XP is a software development methodology that emphasizes engineering practices such as test-driven development, paired programming, and continuous integration. It's designed to improve software quality and responsiveness to changing requirements, making it a great fit for projects with rapidly evolving needs. Each of these Agile methodologies offers its own approach to product management and software development, while still adhering to the core principles of Agile. Depending on the project's nature, the team size, and specific goals, one of these methodologies may be more suitable than the others. In fact, the exact approach that's used might actually be a combination of these, but it's important to understand how they all work before designing something new. Regardless of the specific methodology being used, Agile's all about breaking down larger projects into smaller tasks that are tackled in short, iterative cycles. This continuous improvement and adaptability makes Agile a highly effective methodology for managing projects and responding to changing requirements. So how do big companies like IBM, Spotify, and Google use Agile to innovate, develop software, and improve processes? Let's take a closer look at each of these companies to see how they've customized the Agile methodologies to suit their specific needs. IBM. IBM has been a pioneer in adopting Agile, as well as design thinking methodologies, transforming its software development processes to become more flexible, efficient, and customer centric. They've implemented Agile on an enterprise scale with thousands of employees across various teams working collaboratively. IBM has found that Agile's helped them increase productivity, reduce time to market, and improve software quality. Spotify. Spotify has a unique take on Agile, known as the Spotify model. This model focuses on building small autonomous teams called squads that have full ownership of their project. These squads are organized into larger groups called tribes, which share resources and knowledge. Spotify's Agile implementation emphasizes autonomy, communication, and strong engineering culture, allowing them to rapidly innovate and adapt to changing market conditions. Finally, Google. Google's approach to Agile was centered around their 20% time policy, which allows engineers to spend 20% of their time working on passion projects. This encourages innovation and fosters a culture of continuous improvement. Google's also implemented a mix of Agile methodologies like Scrum and Kanban, depending on the project's nature and team requirements. This flexible approach has helped Google stay nimble and responsive to change, leading the development of groundbreaking products and services. As you can see, the adoption of Agile methodologies has had an enormous impact on these organizations. By customizing Agile approaches to fit their specific needs and organizational structures, companies like IBM, Spotify, Google, and lots more have experienced faster development cycles, improved product quality, and increased customer satisfaction. Understanding how these big players use Agile to innovate can offer valuable insights and inspiration for other organizations looking to adopt Agile methodologies. Now, let's talk about how Agile relates to facilitation. Scrum Masters or Agile coaches play a vital role in guiding and supporting Agile teams. They often use workshops and other facilitated sessions to increase speed, remove roadblocks, and create an environment that fosters continuous improvement and collaboration. Here are some specific workshops that relate directly to Agile practices. So we believe that design sprints are the best way to identify what teams should be working on before starting an Agile sprint process. You don't need to be doing a design sprint for every Agile sprint cycle, but for big projects, it's the best way to validate ideas and de-risk your projects before starting development with your Agile team. Sprint-palling workshops take the overall concepts from things like design sprints and turn that into a short-term execution plan. This is where the most critical user stories are prioritized and placed into the backlog, ready for the team to start working on. Daily stand-ups are a short activity that are designed to identify the most important blockers that are holding people up. They're called stand-ups because they're deliberately intended to be very quick. Good facilitation skills are perfect to make sure these meetings stay short and are super high value. Finally, the sprint retro is a great opportunity to run a workshop. There are lots of ways to run retros, but one of our favorite tools is a sailboat retro that we use in our Lightning Decision Jam. And that wraps up our introduction to Agile methodology. We hope you have a better understanding of what Agile is, how it works, and its importance in the world of innovation and software development. As a facilitator embracing Agile can be an excellent way to diversify your skillset and stay relevant in today's fast-paced world. If you liked this video and want to see more videos like this, make sure you subscribe. Don't forget to hit that notification bell and if you're interested in innovation processes like Agile and design sprints or again, facilitation in general, sign up for our free facilitation community where you can connect to thousands of designers and facilitators, sharing their incredible insights, tricks, and resources. The link to the community is of course in the description below. Thanks for watching. I'll see you next time.


Hey guys, Shaper 1000 here. Today we're going to do a quick review of the perfect egg maker. Stay tuned. Let's make some eggs. As seen on TV product, it's the Copper Shuff Perfect egg maker. I've seen a few of these on on YouTube some videos, so I Been wanting to give it a try. Well a lot a lot of guys guys and gals have done it So I thought we'd give it a shot Sometime and well we got this pretty cheap today. We got it. I think it's 15 bucks 14.99. We got it at Walmart So let's open this up and see what's in here. So the box, you know pretty much It's a box. I don't know if you guys can see that so Open this up and Looks a lot bigger on the YouTube videos and on the box so we've got Got the book here The owner's manual So some kind of that's it. It's all that's in the box. Hopefully they'll have some kind of recipe because Or I may have to bring up a video myself and watch it What's this? Get my glasses on important notice about your rights read carefully. I know my rights trust me Anyway, so here's the copper chef perfect egg maker owners me So you got important safeguards parts and accessories general operating instructions That's what we're going to be wanting to do. Let's go to that And That was on page what measuring cup and all that stuff General operating instructions there toes about the eggs. So let me read up on this for well Let's go ahead and open this first Open this up. I eat a lot of eggs Monkey don't eat as many as I do but I do eat a lot So we've got there's the measuring cup Thingy and it looks like it's in Millimeter milliliters this must be making for making poached eggs. Yeah, see that's That little prickly thing there That is what you put the egg with I guess so There's that we've got these two items here You've got the lid I can make a parabolic dish microphone out of that probably huh And I think it's curved in too much, but it would still work I've made a couple of them is the side piece We've got our base and you can double stack. I mean put eggs on top of each other like that there So that's pretty cool So you put eggs in here eggs in there eggs on top of here That kind of looks like two little eyes don't it and like a little hair thing All he needs is a nose and a mouth so All right pretty cool so I'm gonna Put your on and off button and your light. So what I'm gonna do you guys can see all right It looks dark from where I'm sitting here. Maybe no Let me read up on this and we'll we'll make some eggs, okay? Okay, I'm reading up on this and right here. It's for your hard boiled eggs and 7 to 14 eggs for soft eggs or medium eggs. It is not recommended 7 to 14 7 to 14. I'm repeating that because right here Right on the other side of the page. That's page 9. This is page 10 for 7 or fewer soft medium or hard-boiled eggs Here it's not recommended 7 eggs for soft or medium, but here For 7 or fewer What the hell let's make some hard boiled eggs. Okay guys First thing we want to excuse me the first thing we want to do Is we want to put our water in here with this measuring cup Now here's another thing this measuring cup Only goes to 70 milliliters for what for 7 to 14 eggs and the general operating instructions For 7 to 14 eggs. It says 75 milliliters And this cup only goes to I don't know if you can see it 70 milliliters Whatever right? So anyway first thing we're going to do is we're going to add our water I'm going to boil these hard boiled so That's what it's saying. It's taking the 7 to 14 eggs. We're going to make 8 So we put this in there and then we put Our bottom rack in there now we got to pierce the bottom of each and every one of these eggs And to do that we'll use the pokey thing So we're going to poke the bottom That's the you know the big part. I just called it the bottom But the big part we're going to poke it. That's pretty scary And you want the holes up So maybe I should just do six because I wanted to put a cup on the top because here's my thing Heat rises right wouldn't you think the bottom ones are going to cook more than the top ones? because All your heat's going to be down here cooking these eggs and then it's going to take a minute For the heat to come up here. So heat rises So I don't know if that's a good thing if it equals out once it gets up here You know what I'm saying the heat or if it's going to lose its heat by the time it gets up here Or will these cook more than these? I don't know but We're going to find out so I want to do eight eggs. Okay, let's do It doesn't really say how you should put them. All right, so we're going to put We're just going to put them like that now we're going to take our Extension they called it and then we're going to put our other layer on here that way monkey can have She likes to take some eggs with her to work Okay, so let's put these like here and here so She'll have some hard boiled eggs To take work if I don't eat them all but Man stressful day guys So I went with her to work today because I had a doctor's appointment And that turned out to be a bunch of That was a big hassle and then I had to go see another doctor and it was something else Okay, so we got this stuff in there.  I don't know what's going on But I'm doing what it said push the button. That's the power button The unit will shut off once complete. All right, so I'm going to time this I mean is it getting warm? Will I be able to Maybe you've got to hold the button. I know I feel some heat coming up here Okay, all right, it's getting hot and I'm going to time it myself Alexa set timer for 23 minutes 23 minutes and then we'll Then we'll see when this shuts off how close the time is And then we'll make a couple poached eggs and maybe a scrambled egg or two. So Let's give this 23 minutes and I'll be back with you.  So you know What I'm going to do is I'm going to mark these Just put a little blue dot on here just so I know these are the tops Because I want to see if there's any difference in Uh, what the inside's cooked like So let's take these out And I got some cold water over here Put them in there So these are supposed to be hard boiled. Oh another thing also you're supposed to You know, they want you to wash these off, which I already did Before you use it. So okay, so now Yeah I thought it smelled funny. See it ran out of water but okay, so We're going to let these we're going to get to these in a minute But right now we're going to make a couple poached eggs. So what I'm going to do Is I'm going to clean this off real good and I'll put it filled back up with water Now on the back of this See this was the measuring for the For the eggs for the hard boiled eggs And on the back is for your poached eggs and for your scrambled eggs. So we're going to do Two poached eggs next. So let me get this cleaned off And then we'll make a couple poached eggs Okay guys This actually wasn't wasn't too hard to clean There's some spots there, but That dark stuff that was on there. I just wiped out with a damp sponge because this None of these is they're not dishwasher safe.  So we're going to go ahead And I'm doing it just the way they say to And all it says is do the line. So it says poached and omelette and it has a line between them So I'm guessing that's the line for either one of them So I'm going to do it the way That it is recommended That way, you know if something happens well then And for the poached eggs We're going to put This piece on here And then this piece Right here is going to go It looks like it's just going to set in the center And then the dome Is going to go like that so It doesn't really say too much, but it does say to spray this lightly with oil. Well We're I've got some spray here and it's butter flavored So butter and eggs, right? So I'm just going to give it a light Just the light spray is all it says to do All right, and so we're going to set this up there Add water we did that lightly spray then add one or two eggs to the tray add seasoning if desired Okay, so we're going to put an egg in there Let me see where can I do this where it's not going to I'm going to put one egg in here and one egg in here no way to set this timer. So I don't know how it knows but You know it's like You know for your soft and medium eggs It says the same thing that you plug the unit Plug in the unit and press the power button The unit will shut off once complete the same way up here. How does it know? I mean, I don't understand because If it hard boiled eggs at 23 minutes or we'll say 20 according to the machine itself So It only stands the reason that it's going to Try to cook your soft or medium. Shouldn't you cook those at the last time?  I don't understand that and it doesn't say but anyway, it just says here. Okay. Now we're Let's make sure we're in the center so Make sure it's As close as we can get to the center All right It doesn't say that but I'm guessing that's what you should do All right Just like that now And then it just says to Cover plug unit in press the power button. Okay Um, so we're not going to need we're not going to need this piece So we're going to cover it. I guess just like that Let's let the picture show them Right there So and turn it on Now it's on so let's come back to this And we'll see what it looks like as it's cooking Okay guys while our other two eggs are poaching This this side here the one on the right Is This is the uh The ones the eggs that were on the top So let's cut into this See what it looks like feels good. Oh beautiful Nice Nice now, let's see if the ones on the bottom cooked any more any less or the same The ones on the bottom did cook looks like a little less but Nothing to split hairs over um So the ones on top Cooked a tiny bit more, but you really can't tell So that's that's good. So those turned out pretty good there now our poached eggs I'm waiting on the light to go off and once the light goes off And it just did I should have had the timer going But okay, so let's bring this over here. I think can you guys see okay? Careful don't get steam burnt And those uh, they're poached I mean Yeah, so far it's egg under glass Well plastic that looks like glass.  I don't know but now we're gonna make scrambled eggs and it says You know, we're going to use this one same setup as the poached egg only we'll use this one um One or two eggs. I I've mixed up two eggs with some pepper and a little bit of seasoning salt And we're going to go ahead and fill this up to that line Which that line looks to be because that bottom comes off. So it's pretty close to half full so And cleanup is a breeze so so far. I'm liking it And then it says to spray this so we're going to spray this lightly spray All right, we'll put one of these on there again We're going to put this let's try to get it centered again I mean, I don't know if it matters, but I'm guessing You know, I mean it don't take rocket scientists and They should have an indentation on it For those things to like sit dead center because that's always the best So let's dump these in here. Okay, there's two eggs in there These will be our scrambled eggs I hope monkey's hungry again Um, it says cover plug unit in power. I've got to plug in the unit will shut off once complete So I don't know how it knows But apparently it does so let's put our lid on here And this time I'm going to time it Okay, so let's turn it on And I'm going to time it with the kitchen timer Okay, guys Here's how the poaching eggs turned out I know for some of you they may be a little done But Uh, they did come out pretty easy Um, it may be a little done for some people, but you know to me that looks looks pretty good Um, so this was Five minutes 29 seconds point 71 So five and a half minutes ish So Is what it took to scramble these eggs All right, so let's check them out Okay, came right out Not an issue Um, I know what you're going to say. Well, it's not really scrambled. Well scramble them, you know Scramble your egg. Yeah, I mean I'm good with it. I'm really good with this thing. I really like it as far as for the scrambled eggs and poached eggs You might as well say one serving unless you only have one egg So like for monkey in the mornings while she's getting ready for work If she wants to put a couple scrambled eggs in there, she can have a quick breakfast Or a couple poached eggs whatnot and I like the fact that you can hard boil 14 eggs in here at once I like that I know what you're going to say. Well, you can do that in a pan of water too, but now think about this Now I'm like I said, I've said a hundred times. I'll said a hundred and one I'm not a rocket scientist, but I do know a little bit about stuff and what I'm guessing Is I don't think this is going to use as much electricity as that burner on that stove over there with a big pan of water Because you got to use the big burner This you're not using a big burner because if you use the little burner, I know what you're going to say We'll use a little burner. Well, then you're going to leave it on there longer So it's going to equal out and I don't think this is going to use as much energy To cook to hard boil 14 eggs As that stove And I've been thinking about this for those of you that have been following me for a while You know things things bug me. I got to figure something out. That's just the way I am That's the way I've always been. That's the way I will be Till the day I die And I enjoy it Now I didn't google this or anything, but this is Just what I surmise Is my guess I'm just guessing here, but This thing has no knock, right? We was talking about that How does it know when to cook less less time? Well, what I'm thinking Which a lot of you guys probably already figured this out But what I'm thinking is if you've got This in here and then you've got the top on it Okay, you've got all this space, right now apparently there's a thermostat in here, correct So it knows when to shut off. So my guess is that it's not Technically reading the temperature of the The the hot plate itself the bottom part per se Now remember you're going to have more water So it's going to take longer to heat that water up and get it up to temperature and to get this up to temperature Then it is If you just have This on there, you know with one of these in there So you've got less water So it's going to heat up a little quicker. You've got less room to heat up So it's going to heat up quicker. So it's going to get up to that temperature faster So it's going to shut off quicker if that makes any sense what I'm trying to say here But I think you do That's how I think that thing shuts off is because More water more space takes longer to get up to that temperature. It's a preset Whatever the temperature that this is inside here. I don't know. I'm not getting into all that but whatever it is That's what it's set on And for it to get up to that temperature with all that other stuff on there It's going to take longer and it's going to take longer with more water less water less room to heat up It's going to get to that temperature faster. I think that's how it knows So it didn't trick me on that one So I'm going to take this into monkey And I'll be back with you with my final thoughts on this thing Okay guys my final thoughts On the copper chef as seen on tv perfect egg maker I've seen mixed reviews on this thing as well To some people it's not feasible You know, they're used to cooking frying eight or nine eggs You know three or four people, you know a couple of adults and a couple of kids For the poached eggs and scrambled eggs, it wouldn't be feasible for that. No, I understand that But overall I'm giving this thing a two thumbs up for now I will use it And I will let you know how durable it is do not put it in the dishwasher. It is not dishwasher safe Um So For this review so far it is two thumbs up Now, I don't know If I have mentioned this About this Okay Remember this I did a review on this I may have mentioned it to you, but We use this thing probably it's got That little piece broke off of it Well, it still latches, but there's like a little should have been a little another little You know where kind of comes out a little bit more. So just the tip of that's kind of broke off a little bit That's not this thing's fault It actually fell onto the tile floor It's a good thing. It didn't hit monkey's foot.  See It's still latches tight. It still works It didn't do anything. It didn't crack the floor It's not out of shape and we use this thing at least four times a week This was a great investment if you guys can get one Get it. I mean, it's great. I'll do a video. I've been wanting to do a video. I've been making grilled cheeses in this thing You can make hamburgers in this thing It's awesome. So this is still getting a two thumbs up for me as well as so far The copper chef perfect egg maker So that's my review. I hope you enjoyed it yesterday, I think I said Wednesday in my Video and I think today is Wednesday. So I apologize for that and uh So hope you guys enjoy the rest of your week be safe uh always be safe and um I'm gonna sign off for now So I'll get back in a couple weeks with you on this and let you know how it's done how how much we use it and uh You know things like that and um So listen guys, I appreciate it. Thanks for watching Shea bearer the mint demand legend. I'm gone for now. Bye. Bye guys. Take care