We're having our second open house for our comprehensive planning process called Columbia Compass in vision 2036 and we are hoping that the people in Columbia will come out and talk to us about some of the things that we are doing well in the city, some of the things that we can improve on so that as we prepare our comprehensive plan for the next 10 years we can put all those things together and come up with some really good recommendations that we can take to city council that will help guide them for the next decade going forward. We're here to do two things, one to share the long range plans hopefully for Columbia and at the same time to get input from the people who live in this area, same as we're doing all over the city. I believe it's very important that the citizens do come out, take a look at these target areas that we will be focusing on over a period of time. The impact for the comprehensive plan it's one of those things that doesn't happen instantaneously usually, it's something that goes into a plan, there's a lot of discussions and then usually funding has to be allocated for it, it might be funding that comes from other sources or from the city, sometimes it's putting policies in place to allow private development to take on those opportunities and tasks and so sometimes you might see some things after a comprehensive plan has adopted happen within 12 months, they might happen in two years, sometimes if it's a really big project it might take to the end of that 10 year period to actually see those things come about. It focuses in two areas really from my perspective, business recruitment, that is what helps to bring folks into an area that also helps to contribute to the revenue base but also it attracts people when it comes to the quality of life. What we want to do as a result of the input from people who live here, make sure that we're looking at housing that will accommodate people, one who live here now and have a need and those that are moving in from other parts of the country, they have expectations as well, you want to make sure that we're able to accommodate them whether they want to purchase or whether they want to rent. I would encourage them to go online, check out the information that's coming their way, staff is doing an excellent job of making sure that the information is there through our websites. So to be on the lookout for gatherings such as this.


Hi guys, what is up? Welcome to my channel. So for today's video, I am so excited. This is a fun one. I have not done a video like this yet, my channel. So for today's video, I'm going to be doing a full face of my most expensive makeup, telling you what I think is worth it, and what's not. Two things that are very exciting about this video. What? This video is in collaboration with my friend Erin Nicole here on YouTube and Instagram. If you guys don't know about her, she is so beautiful, like stunning. And she has the best taste in luxury makeup. She knows what she's talking about when it comes to luxury beauty. So I know you guys will love her. Her videos are so poised and put together.  So definitely check her out. I will put her Instagram and YouTube channel down below as well as her video. So basically what we're doing is we are both doing a face of our most expensive makeup and we are going to see who has the most expensive face. I think Erin got it because she has so much luxury makeup, but I did try my best. I put up a good fight. We will see. So make sure you check out her video to see who won our little challenge and just to see what other luxury products she has. She has a lot of different luxury products than I do. We kind of focused on different brands. So she does a lot of Chanel and things like that. So I definitely think this was a great collaboration, especially for that as well. So check out her channel. Something really awesome about the timing of our collaboration as well is that it is during the time of the Sephora VIP sale. So I always say the VIP sale is the perfect time to purchase luxury makeup because you get a discount on this really expensive makeup. All of my links down below, if the product is available at Sephora, I put the Sephora link to it. So you need to go right now, put the items that you want in your cart so that you can get them for 20% off because it is not often that luxury makeup goes on sale. So if you're going to do it, do it now. I have some great products in this video that I can recommend to you guys. So anyways, I know I've just shipper-jabbered a lot. Let's get into my full face of my most expensive makeup. So before we get into the makeup, skin prep is always important. I normally don't do my skin prep in front of the camera, but for today's video, I will, mostly because skincare is like the most expensive thing in beauty. So I'm starting off with the La Mer the Moisturizing Cool Gel Cream. I love this moisturizer. It has cured my skin in its time of need. It is $180. So I don't use this as my regular moisturizer, but I do treat myself to use it. So I'm just going to apply that all over my skin. I love gel moisturizers. I just feel like they sink into the skin better for me. So the next item that I'm going to be using is eye cream. Eye cream, I feel like is very important no matter what age you are. Not only for the long-term benefits, but actually it makes your concealer look a lot better. The concealer will blend so much easier on your eyes and it's not going to cake up and sink into fine lines as quick as it would. If you were not to apply eye cream, it's the moisturizer for your under eyes. And you know, if you don't moisturize your skin before putting foundation on it, same thing with concealer. That's a very, very important tip for you guys. So the eye cream that I use is the Charlotte Tolbury Magic Eye Rescue.  I've been working on this one. This one was a bit of a splurge for me. It is $60, but it works really great. I really do enjoy it and it just was a lot of product. So this has lasted me quite a long time.  But honestly, guys, I don't think I've ever mentioned this, but this is the biggest tip for concealer. It makes a world of difference. On my clients, no matter what age they are, I am putting eye cream underneath their eyes. So while that sinks in, it is time to moisturize the lips. You want to moisturize the lips at the beginning of your makeup routine because you want it to sink in while you're applying the rest of your makeup. So today, I'm using the Amel Cordon Miracle Lip Balm. Now, this is their new limited edition lip balm for the summer. This is in Hampton Summer. It's kind of minty, but these lip balms are so beautiful. They are $60, but they're so light on the lips. They are perfect for pre-makeup application because they're not too thick and they just, they feel luxurious. And I know some of you guys who follow me love these lip balms and can back me up that these are really good. I know $60 is a lot. This is, you know, it's made in USA and it is a really, really lovely lip balm. All right, so last step. This has been a part of my makeup routine for the past three months now. I've experimented with different brands, but this one does not break me out. I started having a huge problem here because of the sunscreen I was using. I've been loving the Clay de Po sunscreen. This is $130, which is ridiculous, but I'm telling you for some reason, all these sunscreens are breaking me out and this one does not break me out. I normally, I don't apply sunscreen in my videos because it's just an additional step that's wasting time. But for your normal makeup routine, you need to be applying a sunscreen. Now this one, though, it's great and doesn't break me out. As you can see, it does apply a little bit of a white cast to my skin. Luckily, we're putting foundation on top, so it's okay. But when I actually wear the sunscreen without makeup, it looks a little bit weird because I just have this white cast on my face and I look sick. I really, really like the sunscreen. So finally, it is time to start heading into the makeup. We are going to start off with my primer. This is a beautiful primer. Great time to pick it up during the sale. This is the Tom Ford Illuminating Primer. This is $76, which, whew, she is pricey. But oh my gosh, if you love an illuminating base, you will love this. It's just such a natural shine to the skin. I feel like a lot of times brands think that illuminating primers need to be glittery or metallic on your skin and they don't need to be. This is like glossy. This really is the most natural illuminating finish. Don't get me wrong, I do like a metallic illuminating base and all of that, but this is honestly the most natural and it sinks into the skin really beautifully. This is kind of my secret obsession that I don't talk about enough. It is so good, such a good base. All right, so now it's time to move to foundations. This is probably my all-time favorite foundation, this along with the Dior Air Flash Foundation. This is the La Mer, the Soft Fluid Longwear Foundation. If you've been thinking about this, please get it during the Sephora sale. This is my all-time favorite foundation. I use it for special occasions. It wears beautifully. It's my Good Luck Foundation. Really good time to pick it up because this is $120, which is quite a lot of money, but it is so beautiful and I love this shade. It matches me perfectly. It is a true neutral undertone, so it actually matches me and it's honestly, it's just the best out there. Of course, it is super pricey and if you don't have the money for it, no, it's absolutely not worth it. But if you do have the money for it, I think you are really going to enjoy this foundation. So many people I know who have tried it, absolutely loved it. So I'm just going to go ahead and finish this up. So this is the way that I do my makeup in this order. So next we're going to move on to eyebrows. So the eyebrow product that I chose is the VisiArt Eyebrow Palette. So this is $80. It can be used as both an eyebrow palette as well as an eyeshadow palette. And as you can see, these are great colors for eyeshadows as well. So it's not just one purpose. I do do others makeup, so this is great for me. It is a newer item in my collection, but I have been absolutely loving it. So I was really excited to talk about it in this video. It has such great colors. And again, if you are not a makeup artist, that's okay because you can actually use these as eyeshadows as well. I've been playing around with different colors of myself and depending on the type of makeup look I use would be the colors that I use because some are warmer, some are ashier and I just really like having that versatility. So I'm actually just going to kind of speed through this process because I can't talk during this. So the eyebrows are looking good. I am actually now going to apply an eyebrow gel. So I'm just using, this isn't a luxury product. I don't have any luxury eyebrow gels. This is just the Benefit 24 hour brow setter. This is really great. I love the bristles on here that brush out and separate the eyebrows. This is $24 and I'm just going to use that to set my brows in place all day and kind of brush them through and guide them in the direction that I want them to go. All right, so now it's time to work on concealer. Lately I've been loving this. This again is not a luxury product, but it is kind of pricey. This is the Becca Under Eye Brightening Corrector in the shade Light to Medium. For some reason I feel like my under eyes are kind of darkening. So this has been the perfect corrector. This is $32 and I'm just going to take that and pop that right underneath my eye. And as you can see, instantly really brightening. I try to be pretty light with application on this because I don't want it to build up and disrupt the concealer at all. So I just really wanted to give that brightening effect to my under eye. But as you can see, just that product alone really made a huge difference. So for concealer I have the Clay to Po Radiant Corrector. I have mine in the shade Ochre. This is $65. Anything from Clay to Po is pricey and I'm just going to use that right underneath my eyes. As you can see, it is a bit too dark for me. I bought this a long, long time ago. Do not know why I thought this was a good shade for me, but it is the most expensive concealer that I own. So I need to make it work. Formulation wise though, this is so beautiful. It looks so creamy and moisturizing underneath the eyes. I think that mature skin would really react well with this concealer. It's just very beautiful. Maybe not the most high coverage, but the most beautiful natural finish. So $65 is a lot, but this is actually really, really good. All right, so we are going to do some cream contouring and shading and coloring. So I chose the Tom Ford Shade and Illuminate. So this is just an illuminator and a cream contour.  It is a very popular item from Tom Ford. A lot of people love it. It's constantly sold out. I checked online before I filmed this video and it is currently still available. So I would say if you do want to pick this up during the Sephora sale, put it in your basket now. Go to my link down below and put it in your basket right now and order it early on just in case it does sell out because surprisingly, I didn't think it was true when people would say it, but surprisingly, things really do sell out fast. All of the good stuff on the Sephora website for the sale. So if there's something that you really, really want, make sure you order it early because a lot of the goods really do sell out. So I just decided that using a sponge would apply a little bit better and more natural. And as you can see, that is the case. I love a cream contour. There's something about it that just looks more natural. I am going to take the butt of this and put in a little bit of the illuminator just right at the top of my cheeks. This is a way to add just a really natural highlight. It's not like a glowy shimmery highlight. There's just something that casts a little extra reflection on your skin. And it is really beautiful if you want that very, very natural look. I don't think I mentioned this, by the way. This is $88, but it is a beautiful cream formula. And I don't talk about it enough. It is stunning. As you can see, that just blended right into the skin and I look glowy and fresh. I love it. So I do want to apply just a touch of cream blush. So I am bringing out the Natasha Denona Diamonds and Blush Palette in the shade Daria. Now, this palette is very special to me because this is one of the very first things that I reviewed on my channel. And in here, there is a beautiful cream blush. Now, this palette is $89, but you get six full-sized cheek products in here. So if you want to do the calculations that way, this is actually a very, very good value. It's just $89, but you really do get a good amount of product. So I'm just putting that cream blush on my cheeks. A beauty blender really is the best way to go with this type of stuff. But as you can see, that gives me a very fresh amount of color. I am going to go on with powder later, but I did just want to kind of start off my base with all cream products and I'm loving it. So now it's time to get a little bit of powder on my face. So to start off by powdering my under eyes, I'm embarrassed to show you this for a couple of reasons. So I'm going to be using La Mer, the powder. Now, I don't even want to show you the packaging because this is the old packaging. I have cherished this powder for years in my collection. This is definitely expired, but do I intend on throwing it away? Absolutely not. It still works beautifully. I'm only using it on myself. I'm taking the risk. They did repackage it and it is a worse value now. So I still have the big kumuna holder thingy for it. So this powder is $95, but honestly, it is truly the best loose setting powder. It is better than Laura Mercier. It's better than any loose powder I've ever tried. I don't use it that much. I only use this for special occasions, but this is a cherished product in my collection. Nothing smooths my skin out more. Nothing wears more beautifully. I really should buy it during the sale because I will get it for 20% off, but this is just the most beautiful loose powder formula. If you are a luxury makeup lover, definitely give this powder a go. It is worth every penny if you have the money. The best powder ever.  So that's going to set the cream contour as well as add a little bit more warmth to the face because the Tom Ford is a little bit more cool. This is a bit more warm. This is the La Mer, the bronzing powder. This is $85, but it is amazing. It smells delicious. It smells expensive. Like it just smells really good and clean and fresh. Honestly, I don't think I've ever talked about this bronzer on my channel. I think I just bought it a little bit late and it kind of got lost in all of the things that I needed to talk about, but it is a really nice bronzer. It blends very beautifully to the skin. Now last I checked, this was sold out at Nordstrom, but I don't know. It is a very, very nice bronzer, but I don't know that it's completely necessary in one's collection, but I do love the smell of it. It really just makes using it so nice. So that is the bronzer. As you can see, it just kind of set me down and I feel a little bit better because I have a lot of cream products on. So before I get to finishing the blush and the highlighter, I do want to move on to the eyes. So I'm going to start off with an eyeshadow primer and I'm going to be honest, I don't know how old this is because this was sitting in the very back bottom of my drawer. I completely forgot I had it, but this is the Trish McAvoy Eye Base Essentials. This is $35. This is the most expensive eye primer that I own and I mean Trish McAvoy is not a super cheap brand. I don't think I've ever really talked about using their products on my channel, but growing up, my mom loved Trish McAvoy. So I just kind of have a soft spot for them because I remember my mom using them. But honestly, I really cannot tell you anything about this eye base other than it's clumping up, but I'm going to attribute that to this being old as ever and expired. I probably should just throw this away after this video. This has got to go.  Ugh, I don't know. So hopefully that doesn't disrupt the eyeshadow too much, but of course eyeshadow is one of the things that I was most excited to talk about. We have Don't Don't Don't Don't. This is the Natasha Denona 28 green brown palette. Look at this. Isn't it stunning? This is a whopping $239 palette, but it is absolutely beautiful. These 28 pan palettes from Natasha Denona have like the best formula ever. They're better than her other palettes. There's just something special about these 28 pan palettes. So if you can get your hands on these, I would recommend it. I honestly think Natasha Denona is trying to phase these out because they took these out of Sephora stores. They are still online, but they're harder to find. And usually that's the typical pattern for them trying to get rid of products. You know, Natasha Denona is going in a little bit of a different direction now with their new products. So I don't know. I'm so scared that this is no longer going to be sold because it's the best formula. So I would say if you've been eyeing it, definitely pick it up all you can. Um, we're going to do a simple look because I do want to work with a lid topper today. So I'm going to start off with this color right here and apply that to the crease. Then we're going to deepen that up with a little bit of a matte chocolate shade. So this shade is a little bit more warm. I am going to use that for just a little bit of warmth to the crease. So I'm just lightly gonna spread that through. I'm going to stick this cream shade right here and I'm using the same brush for all of this. I don't know if you guys noticed, but yeah, don't feel like you need to own a billion brushes and I'm just using that right underneath the brow. By the way, this is the Esum G 34. It is bomb like the most amazing crease brush and then we're going to keep it pretty simple on the eyelid because I do want to go in with a really cool metallic lid topper that I want to show you. So I'm going to go for this color right here. It is a shiny color because I do want to show you how pretty the shimmer formula in this palette is. Is that not stunning? And I just lightly dabbed into this pan. Like yes, this palette is ridiculously priced, but honestly, the quality reflects it. I'm going to just be honest already. So now I want to move on to the lid toppers. I wanted to share with you guys. These are the Tom Ford cream and powder eye colors. I love these. I think more people need to get on board with these. They are stunning. So these are $65 each. Obviously, you know Tom Ford is up there. I have a really pretty bronzy color, but I think I'm going to go for the lighter color. This is young adonis. So how it works is you pull the bottom out and you have cream shade. So I'm just going to take that and just put that right on top. I know I'm doing it a little unconventionally, but it's okay. As you can see that cream shadow is still like stunning and it really did just add that extra pizzazz to the eyelid. Something a powder shadow just cannot replicate and once that shadow is down, you're going to pull the top off and you have a coordinated powder color. Now this is a little bit more sheer in this specific color, but it has just the most pretty reflex that stick right to the cream base that really opened up the eyes and add extra pizzazz to the lid, which makes it special. Now I'm not sure, but I don't think Sephora has a ton of colors in this specific formula, but it's worth checking out for sure. Blend it in to make it seem a bit more seamless. But yeah, I'm just doing a really simple look today and I'm loving that. So before I finish the eyes, I do want to take some time to go back to the face. I really want to create a blushing glowing look. So I do have a few other fun products to mention to you guys. So I'm going to go back to the Natasha Denona blush palette and I'm going to take the actual blush and these two were made for each other. So I'm going to keep that going, but I'm just going to apply just a little bit because I have a really glowy product that I want to put on top. So I'm just lightly patting that right on top that is setting the cream blush and the two are just melting together super pretty. So this next palette that I'm using is one of my favorites for a glowy complexion. This is the Charlotte Tilbury Glow Gauze Face Palette. This is the Light Gauze. This honestly has become one of my favorite releases of the year. This is $75, but it is the most gorgeous, gorgeous palette. What I'm going to do is I'm going to grab a highlight brush. This isn't really a highlight brush, but this will do. So I'm going to go into the Glow Extreme palette and I'm just going to lightly put just a little bit right on the tops. Now, what's good about using a big brush like this is it really does blend it into the skin. So it looks like your skin is actually glowing and this color does have a little bit of diamond powder in it. So if you don't like super glittery, I don't need that highlight. This palette doesn't have glitter. It's just glow. So what I'm going to do is put this right on top from, I mean, do you see that? And I mean, honestly, it's the work of these two together. You have kind of that more shimmery based and then you have this glowy base and it's really creating a stunning glow. And here is my favorite part. This blush down here, take it and apply it right on top of everything. Mesh the blush and the highlight together. And this is what's going to give you that Charlotte Tilbury glow. I'm telling you this is the Charlotte Tilbury glow that you see a little bit of that right on the nose. All right. So moving on to the next product. This is the last item for the face. This is the Hourglass Ambient Lighting Palette. This is $64, but it is worth every penny. I actually use this in my makeup kit. That is how beautiful it is. I just think it looks great on every skin tone and this is what I'm going to do to give my face that final glow and to also blend everything in. What's great is you can use these colors individually, but honestly, I just kind of go through, use them all and just to give myself a final veil of glow because I really wanted a glowing look. So this is the best trick, honestly, and it blends everything on the cheek to make everything a little bit more subdued and it also just gives, it just gives that beautiful veil all over the skin without looking too crazy. So I've been using this for years. It is the best. Honestly, if you want to get into Hourglass by that, it's the best value and amazing, amazing products. Hourglass kills it. And at this point is when I do like to set my face. So this is the Dior Air Flash primer and setting spray. I didn't use it as a primer today. I'm just going to use it as a setting spray. It is $55 and I'm going to be honest, I completely forgot that I had this. No, I guess I just always looked at it and assumed it was a foundation, but it's totally not. I've used this a couple of times though. Let me just spray it on. I've used this a couple of times. Honestly, it is not worth the money. It smells kind of hairspray. It's very fragrant. And I know a lot of you guys aren't going to like that. I think it does help with the longevity a little bit, but not so much that I really noticed it to be honest. It doesn't make me glowier. It doesn't really help too much with melting the makeup in. So this is like throwing $55 in the trash if I'm being honest. Don't recommend this. So the first eyeliner that I'm going to use today is the Clay-to-Po liner. This is $55 ridiculously priced. Now, when I first purchased this, I was in love with it. It really is truly an amazing eyeliner. You get two sides. One side is a tip and then the other side is a brush. This is kind of dried out. It's kind of old, but I'm going to make it work for this video. So I'm going to speed through this because I cannot talk during this either. So here's just what I love about this eyeliner. This side is great. I love a tip like this, but the baby tip is perfect for perfecting the wings. It does have a shine to it. So if you like super matte black, then maybe this isn't for you. I forgot. It's been a while since I've used this since it's drying out, but it's really, really nice.  This is $30, a little bit more up there as far as pencil liners go. And what I'm going to do with this is I'm just going to run just a little bit along my lower lash line, not necessarily in the waterline, but just right on the outside of that. So this eyeliner really is intense. It is super creamy. You can actually just put this on your upper lash line and use a brush and blend it out. It is actually like a really good liner. If I were to put this in my waterline, it would be extremely black and creamy, which in a lot of cases is what I would want and it's really good for smoky eyes too. So I don't actually use this enough. This is a really good gel eyeliner. I have the Tom Ford Extreme mascara. I believe this was a gift with purchase. I honestly haven't really used it that much, but it is a really good mascara from the couple of times that I've used this. This is $40, so I don't know that it's worth $46, but it is really good. I'm going to be honest though, I don't know that I'd spend $46 on mascara. It's mascara, so I'm just going to put that down. But for eyelashes today, I'm using my favorite. This is definitely one of my top five favorite lashes. These are Lily Lashes and Con. These specific pairs are a little bit grody, so I think this is going to be my last time using these before I move on to a fresh pair. But these are $30. Lily Lashes has the best lashes, if you ask me. They have the prettiest lashes, the best quality lashes. Definitely pricey, but if you take good care of the lashes, you can use them over and over and over and over again. So I'm just quickly going to put these on. Okay, so obviously these lashes, by the way, are like everything. They are one of my favorites. So for lips, I'm starting off with the Tom Ford Lip Contour Duo in Make Me. These are $55 and I love these. Great formula. You have a lipstick on one side and a lip liner on the other. So the lipstick kind of just pulls out. Then you have a lip liner. So what I'm going to do is I'm actually just going to use a lip liner because I have a lipstick that I really want to use for this right formula on both ends. So this one is a bit of a brighter pink and I want that brighter color on the outside. So just like that, it's almost my lip color. So it makes my lips look a little bit bigger, but it is a bit of a brighter pink as well. So it adds a fun pop of color to the look. And just in case you're interested in purchasing the actual product, the lip color is actually a lot deeper, which is why I only wanted to use the lip liner today. So for lipsticks, I have the lipstick in the shade Ian. So I'm just going to apply that to my lips right here. As you can see, this one's just lighter, shimmerier, a lot prettier for this type of look using my finger to blend the two together. By the way, the lipstick is $55 as well. And now it's time to move on to the gloss. This is $30. This is the Dior lip gloss in the shade mirror. I just want something a little bit more warm on top of the cool tone lip to kind of match with the eyes. And with the metallic lip color underneath, it actually makes it look much more glossier than the gloss is. So that's just a fun trick. If you want a super glossy gloss, just put a metallic color underneath and then put the gloss on top and super glossy mirrored lips. All right, so I'm going to get myself together and I'll be right back. Alrighty, so here is the completed look using all of my most expensive makeup. The look that I was going for today was not natural, but just to put together bright-eyed, glowy look. And I really do think I achieved that. Here's time for the important part, the overall price of this video. So with all of the products added up together, the total comes to $2,013. So this face right here, I am wearing $2,000 on my face. So that is all I have for today's video. Make sure you check out Erin's channel and her Instagram. She's like so stunning. She knows so much about luxury makeup.  So go give her a subscribe. Make sure you check out her video to see who won. Really excited to see who won our little challenge. I'm gonna be honest, I think Erin won. She got all the goods. So we will see about that. Make sure you subscribe to my channel. If you haven't already, I hope this was a fun video for you guys. I will see you guys in the next one. Bye guys, have a good one.


Well, hello my friends, and welcome back to my channel today. We're gonna be doing a haul. This is all from a new to me company called Cherry On Top Crafts. I will leave the information down below for the website. Full disclaimer, it is an affiliate link. However, I purchased all of this stuff with my own money. Nothing was sent to me for free or PR. I just wanted to check them out. So, I got a few things. I actually got a couple planners, which I will do a dedicated video on for you guys. But they have a lot of like planning, crafting supplies, lots of other different crafty things that y'all might be interested in. So, again, link will be down below. So, I'm gonna go through everything one by one, tell you what it is, and I'll also tell you what the price was as well. So, let's move everything over and then let's talk about it all. So, I'm gonna start with these big boys right here. For some reason, I thought they would be a little bit smaller, but that's okay. These are all from Doodle Bug Design, Inc. And all of these pages were $3.99 a piece. They are stickers.  They're not super thick. So, I can definitely use some of these in my planner. I got this one. I think it's called Party Time. Yeah, it's called Party Time.  I just noticed that like I really just don't have much in my arsenal for like baby things. I mean clearly I don't have kids, but it's just something I was missing. So, I'm like, I need to get that. Also, I got some of these and these kind of coordinate. Here, let me show you. Okay, so they're kind of coordinate like this and this, right? So, like here is also Doodle Bug Design Washi Tape. And I just love these because I'm just a stickler for like a simple design. I'll get closer up in a minute. But it has the same exact pattern and design, like it's the same. You know what I mean? So, I don't know. I thought it was cute. And you could use this for anything. It didn't have, it doesn't have to be like a baby spread. You know what I mean? So, let's get a little closer here and look at some Washi Tape. So, I actually got three different rolls. They are all the same, the Doodle Bug Design Washi Tape in 12 yards. This is Rainbow Stripe, which is right here. Like the, this is like a lot more bold of a colorway where these are a little bit more muted. And this says Washi Tape Baby Girl Stripes. And this says Washi Tape Baby Boy Stripes all in the 12 yards. And if you guys have like tried the Doodle Bug Washi Tape before, it's very satisfying. For me personally, I've never had it like rip on me unintentionally. So, yeah, it's got like a nice, I don't know, waxy film isn't the right thing to say, but it's just, it's, it's like satisfying, I guess I should say. And this one here was 379. So, that's this, like the bolder Rainbow Washi Tape. And then these two, the Baby Girl and the Baby Boy Washi Tape were 399 a piece. So, just FYI on that. And then I got these cute little like, I don't know, what are they?   So, there's a bike, airplane, a car, and then a motorcycle, which I thought would be really cute. So, I don't know, it's called transportation. And then these, oh, they're called stationary tabs. Okay, so these are $2.39, which I am excited to put in my planner because like, you know, if I'm trying to like a placeholder for like an activity or something, or like, hey, I gotta start driving, you know, or I need a book of flight, which isn't happening right now, but in the off chance that it does at some point, or people are traveling like in to visit or something, it'd be nice to kind of track that. Also, I got a couple of sticker sheets from Mrs. Grossman's. I love Mrs. Grossman's stickers. They're always like the flat sticker, so it definitely, you know, works in a planner situation, which I love. So, we've got some skeletons, you know, Halloween and whatnot, like this one's kind of my favorite. Like that's kind of funny. And then also some like holographic glitter rainbows, which are super cute. So the sparkle rainbows are $1.89, and the skeletons were $1.81. So a little bit of a differential in price, but still cute nonetheless. I also picked up these from Life's Organized from Paper House Productions. I've actually purchased stuff just on Paper House Productions before and I've never seen these. Maybe they have them on there, I'm not sure. But these are like just a bunch of medical stickers. I absolutely love this like clipboard with the stethoscope, like that's my jam. And then we have some appointment stickers and some band-aids. And then the ones they check up and then like some teeth, which actually works out perfect because I have a dental appointment in August. I have a dental appointment in August. So yeah, I'm excited for these. I think these are going to be so cute. And then on the backside, they're in the pastel version as well. So there's like a bolder version and then there's a pastel version, which I'm definitely going to get a lot of use out of. And these are just called Doctor and they are $2.84. And then the last sticker sheet that I got is kind of something that I wouldn't normally buy, but I'm kind of here for it. These are called Mickey Ears Alphabet 3D Disney stickers. They're $5.22. But here's the deal. I am planning on going to Disney in June of next year. So my planner actually ends in June of next year. These are like a little bit puffy and they are kind of dimensional. I normally wouldn't put these in my planner, but it's at the very tail end of the year. So I figured I might use these. And I just thought they were super cute and like it could spell out my name or anything. I don't know. I just thought they were really cute. So I'm definitely going to incorporate this in my planning when I get to go to Disney. I'm very excited. As for the planters that I got, I got this bad boy right here. This is a happy planner to be honest. So you guys are probably going to be like, Emily, haven't you done a happy planner video before? And the answer is no. I've never done a happy planner video before. I have never really even looked at them. I've seen them at like Michaels and you know, other crafting stores and stuff. And I just kind of passed by them and was like, meh, whatevs. So anyway, I saw this one. I was like, you know what? Let's test it out, see what's up with it. So this is called the Oh Happy Day Happy Planner 12 month undated classic planner. And this was $27.99. I liked it because the rings were in the rainbow order. And that's kind of my jam.  So anyways, but it isn't the vertical layout. Hold on. Let's, well, I don't want to take that off yet. It has a cover very reminiscent to like the Erin Condren covers that are laminated. So, and then it also says Oh Happy Day, you can see in the rainbow. So anyway, I'm going to do a full video on this, but I'll just flip through it real quick so you guys can kind of see. Oh, you can't really kind of see because it's all like shellac together. Okay, well, oh Jesus. Okay, well, this is kind of what it looks like. Anyways, yeah, so I will check this out. There is undated pages and then clearly the month, lots of other things in here. Oh, that's kind of cute. So yeah, I'm excited to check it out. I'm like I said, I've never had one of these. I feel like I've been gifted some of these and like swag at some point, but then knew I wasn't going to use it. So I just, you know, passed it along to somebody else that could use it. So anyway, but I don't know, I'm excited to give this a try. And there will be a planner first impressions coming out on this very, very soon. Okay, had to make the frame a little bit bigger. So this is something that I got that I'm like, I saw it and I was like, I don't even know what it is, but I need to have it in my life. It was $41 and 24 cents. This is from Webster's Pages. It is a Rainbow A5 kit. So it came in this pretty box. It has this little vellum that says, hello, welcome to Webster's Pages, established 1986. And look at this gorgeousness, y'all. Oh my gosh. I am so excited. So it has a beautiful rainbow pattern here and then some gold foil, which is lovely. It has a snap closure. It is an A5 and there's a kit inside. So love how the interior is. I love the gold with all the pockets and the white looks gorgeous. Okay, there's some like other things in here. But anyway, I'll just go through the tabs so you can kind of see what's in here. But again, I'll do like a full dedicated video on this. So you can kind of see, I mean, clearly you can use these inserts or you can like take other inserts or whatever too. So like, this is kind of like what the inserts for the pages look like. So it's just like a monthly view and then, you know, that's it for that. But I'm sure you could grab some like weekly pages and whatnot. So then that's the end. Oh, here's your weekly views right here. Got it. So you could like move them around or do whatever you want to. Very cool. And then hold on. That's it. And there's like just a little page here and a pocket. Looks cute. I like it. I like it a lot. And I really like that there is, um, there's two pen holders. I mean, this is a pen holder, but it's got like a little thing on there. But there's also a pen holder right here too. So you could potentially have two different pens and it actually gives you, um, it's hard to see. Yeah. It gives you enough space to have a pen too. So it's not going to like jam on it. And then the back is just white and it says WP right there for Webster's pages. So I'm so excited about this, you guys. I'm very excited. All right. So that is going to be it for this video. I hope you guys enjoyed. I'm very excited. I found a new place to shop at, especially during this pandemic and social distancing. I try not to go to stores as much as possible. So any online shopping is better for me personally. So like I said before, links will be below for this shop. And I hope you guys enjoyed taking a peek at all the things that I purchased for myself. I hope you all are having a wonderful day and I'll talk to you on the next video. Bye guys. Well folks, it's time to kick it old school.


This film is called India's Most Wanted. That's it.  Corbin? What's your name? Gollum. Gollum? Do the ball boys. Rock them, purse for Madison, purse for Jussie. Round some time. Where can they follow us? Insta-glom! Oh, Jussie! Gollum dad! It's so juice. Gollum or stupid? That's sour and juicy. And thank you for everybody's support on Patreon. Yes. So this came out, I believe, like a week ago. Sorry, relate to it. Like, as usual, this is our shoot directions. You should be used to this by now. Yeah. But it's called India's Most Wanted. It's with Arjun Kapoor. Yeah. We've seen him in a couple trailers. Yeah. But I'm assuming it's about somebody who's- Wanted. Wanted. Unlike I am from- Is it India's Most Wanted like... Rithic Roshan? Or India's Most Wanted like- I'm guessing it's like- Somebody on a criminal list that- Like NFVI is top ten. I guess we'll find out with the trailer. I mean, it's both. Maybe it's a really good looking murderer. I don't know how long this is going to take. This is a war.  What you want to say is that you and these four, these will capture India's Most Wanted. Huh? Without any weapon, without any support? Yes, sir. I've got four of them with me. I can't fund this operation. It's been made from the top. With the help of a 15-year-old helicopter, millions of people are saved. But for that, it's worth 50,000 rupees. It's going to be a co-operation. We'll go on a tour. Where are you going? Karkul. No IDs. No weapons. I've seen this photo a hundred times, a thousand times. Railway station, bus stop, 4th floor hotel, dance floor, 7th floor, sir. Did you kill him? What will be the benefit? The benefit can be yours. But the loss can be of the other side. Sir, the team over there can be dangerous, sir. It's really bad. You won't win. All the agents, act this way. Yes, sir. All of them have been killed by the Japanese. They have come to get you and Most Wanted man. Sir, this team is gone. They won't come back. Damn! How many blasts are there? Anything else, sir. We'll take them. Even if they go to work. Damn! What will happen to them? Sir, we are this close to capturing. If we leave this time, we might never be able to catch them, sir. But listen to me, you are in danger. Sir, we'll have to take this risk. We've reached 500 kilometers. No one can stop us from going in for 50 more meters.  It says, based on true events, it did say that. I missed that. It did at the very beginning. It's based on true events. Interesting. And does he have a name or do they just call him India's Osama? I don't know. And here we go again. Something we don't know about.  I'm wondering if it's, some of the, just talking about some of the shots now. We're great. Like, especially that, I don't know where that was, I don't know if we can go there. They had the whole sequence of the people doing the parasailing. One, I think that's really dangerous if we do parasailing. That many of them. But they were, they weren't parasailing. They were, it looked like they were hand gliding. Yeah. Which is, they were all pretty close together. Yes. But, and also the, you could actually see the concussiveness of those explosions. Those are some big old, yeah, freaking blow-ups they did on that set. Yeah. And, and how excited is everybody for this film? Like, is there a big buzz going on? We can tell you here in the States when a movie's coming out and there's great excitement for it. Yes.  I'd like to know how excited everybody is. Yeah. It's, yeah, inspired by true events. Okay, it's inspired by true events. Um, I don't, yeah, I don't, I'm trying to, and are there other movies about this event that we may have stumbled across? Yeah, because obviously people don't know how this film is because it has right, so they can't really tell us. Yeah, but it's, we would know like if you tell us a movie's coming out with certain actors or certain directors and certain people involved in it there's an immediate hype and a buzz because you, our confidence is going to be really, really good.  Correct. Um, but I mean, he's not like a, he's a television officer embark on top secret missions to do. It's kind of crazy that they didn't have like any support though behind it. I know. Why is that? Is it because maybe he hadn't attacked in India yet, maybe? In India it's not, India's not known to attack first. Right. They finish things. Right. Um, because they were like, I think the only nations to never attack first. Correct. So maybe they have a, maybe it's one of those things of guys, we're not going to sanction this because we can't go and authorize a strike that, you know, help you. Yeah. We're going to disown you like in Mission Impossible. Yeah. You guys, if you get caught, we don't know who you are. Yeah. I don't know. Interesting. Very interesting. Um, and it's director is Raj Kumar Gupta. And he directed No One Killed Jessica. Um, and a couple other ones, but we don't know it. Well, Amir, interesting.  So like, hey, this director also did this movie. You should watch this because that was before No One Killed Jessica. I'm wondering if he's, he sees one of those directors that likes to make political movies. Maybe so. Um, because obviously this is a not like political both sides kind of thing, but it's a high profile kind of thing. Right. Kind of like No One Killed Jessica. Right. Which is the similar high profile thing. He is. So what, what film of his is the best. And hopefully this comes here and we get a release in the States. We can go to a theater. Yeah. And it's not 50 miles away. Let us know what you think of it. Yeah. But when we watched the Cologne trailers, we thought those were phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah, that one's Oh.


All right. Hi, everybody. Sorry for the delay. Pardon our technical inefficiencies. New computers and old video systems. We tried many dongles. It ended up, I mean, needed a different computer altogether. So I'm Forrest Carpenter. I'm an engineering manager with the Cloud Platform and Services Group at Cisco. And I'm Robert Starmer. I run a technical consultancy. We help people build clouds, determine what kind of clouds to build, et cetera. And so we are breaking a cardinal rule of never present from someone else's slides. This is a variation. We're presenting someone else's talk. Yeah, so we thought we would talk a little bit about containers. And the title is Will Containers Save Us? I think we wanted to talk a little bit more about how containers really fit in the community that we're talking about, specifically the OpenStack community. Yeah, they're definitely, it's a loaded question. It fits that paradigm of if it has a question mark at the end, the answer is no. But the answer is no with nuance, because there's different use cases, different needs, different requirements, and containers fit a number of those. It's a matter of assessing out which one you want to apply it to. So Robert? Yeah, I think we can start first just by talking about what containers are. Because I've seen a lot of people talk about containers. Containers will save us, because it's the future of all technology. This is often coming from an application development team. And they're looking at it from the perspective of having had to manage, potentially, from an operating system level up their infrastructure. And one of the things I often see people think about is they think of a container as a mini virtual machine. And you can build containers like that. And in fact, the LXC container environment was a lot like that. You sort of built a full operating system environment just to run your application. But I see containers as a fundamental shift, because they're really more, at least the way I've seen them being used effectively, they're really more about an effective packaging and management technology, and a more efficient way of managing upgrades, and potentially even downgrades of the applications that we build. So that's, I think, a fundamental thing. If we start thinking about these as a packaging technology for an application, rather than as a replacement for a virtual machine, I think we immediately get into a better thinking place about what containers really mean. And I think that people think of containers and how they can interoperate. And you can kind of mix and match a little bit. Whereas if you're coming at it from a pure virtual machine perspective, either you need orchestration of a number of virtual machines, or you need to bake everything into your virtual machine. And then there's a lot of overhead in wanting to upgrade one particular service, one particular piece of technology within that virtual machine, and it has a cascade effect. Whereas containers have the promise of a little bit more easy interoperability and a little bit more plug and play nature to it. Right, and I think that that's actually a key point. The packaging is really important. And the segregation that a container provides looks somewhat like what a virtual machine provides from a single application point of view. For those of us that have built open stack environments, or built some of these massively complicated environments that all live on one machine, often on one physical resource, we've seen the interaction of trying to upgrade one component. So for example, you try to upgrade Keystone because Keystone has some new authentication features that you want to use.  Why? Because Keystone needed a new library. Keystone needed something different than all the other tools that you were currently running. Or trying to upgrade and not being able to because of a collision between different libraries. The nice thing about containerization is that we bundle the specific libraries that that one application requires in that one image format. And as you say, you bundle your libraries together, but you don't necessarily have to be concerned with the underlying operating system of a virtual machine. You don't need the expertise of saying, oh, I understand rel enough to build these virtual machines. But now I've got this other package or service that is really engineered toward Debian. Now I need to learn all about an entirely different distribution and build that virtual machine. Theoretically, all you need is just the bare minimum of the libraries, like you say. And then you can package it up. And we're actually seeing a shift. If you look at even what Docker, the Docker community has done, the initial container models for a lot of the services that you were getting from Docker started with a container that was already a model of an operating system. So you started with a CentOS base or a rel base or a Debian base image, which was already on the order of 300 or 400 megabytes.  All of the command line utilities that the sysadmin in us likes, because I can sort of get into the container and still type ls. I can run some bash scripts to fix something that's within my application. But what's happened is that as the community has learned how to use the containerization of these resources more efficiently, we're getting to lighter weight operating systems effectively as our base. So people are talking about using Alpine Linux. Well, you might not want to use Alpine Linux as your base operating system for your entire environment, but it's a nice compact Linux environment that in the case of a container doesn't even have the kernel, and it has very few of those additional utilities. So you suddenly don't necessarily have a shell to work with, because you don't actually need it if your application is just trying to run within the container. So there's a big shift that's going on in this sort of condensation of what was a virtual machine down into getting to just the pieces that your application needs to run. And it is changing how we manage and operate our environments, too. Debug certainly changes once you put things into containers. And it's something to be aware of. It's not the exact same world. Like I said, once you containerize that resource, you probably don't have the tools you might have had in the past to debug what was going on if that resource breaks. So it's another thing to sort of be aware of. And you mentioned the sys admins and all of us, and DevOps was a big sea change a few years ago. Now we're all sitting here talking about Kubernetes and Docker and containers this year, and actually years past as well. But the sys admins, too, from that perspective, using the containerized services allows them to have consistent environments, bare metal environments, operating systems that they are familiar with, that they prefer, that use the debugging and the different utilities that they are familiar with. But then they can containerize the offerings that they're putting forth to their consumers, their internal customers or external customers, and still have the flexibility of offering the things people want while being able to maintain their data centers in the fashion that they're familiar with. Yeah, well, I mean, one of the things that comes up when people start talking about containers is a question of security. And that simplification of the underlying operating system, because you're still going to be running an environment. Hopefully it's massively stripped down, because really all that you want is the environment plus the container operating engine, and potentially a container operating environment as well.  And then you might layer on top of that, the most likely candidate today is Kubernetes, to actually manage containers across multiple machines. We can talk about also how this sort of interacts when we start talking about using OpenStack as a containerized application, sort of also fits into this. But the point I wanted to make was that at the security level, even though there are still concerns, although I think they're pretty much being eradicated in terms of the security of an individual container and the container's service, if I can remove a number of the resources that used to be in the underlying operating system as well, because I don't need them, I can potentially make the operating system more secure as well. So you get multiple layers of security that become more efficient, easier to manage, easier to keep upgraded, and that's a huge benefit. Yeah, I think at that point you almost distill security down to really a question of networking, because that seems to be the one thing you really can't get away from and that you really do have to put a lot of thought and effort into is what sort of service, what are your services networked to, what can they access, what can't they access, whereas the processes themselves are pretty well squared off. But networking becomes sort of the thing you really want to put the most scrutiny on. Yeah, so that's sort of some of the basics about containers, right? So what are these pieces, what are some of the value propositions of containerizing services? Now if we apply containers to something like OpenStack, right? OpenStack is a distributed application. We happen to often deploy it as a distributed application all running on one machine. How many of us have built an all-in-one OpenStack instance? Everybody, right? Built DevStack, right? Everything is running on one environment. So that means that all of my 75 or 80 plus processes, each with their own requirements of potentially slightly different libraries, are all running on one operating system, right? If I containerize that, I can either do a sort of VM Lite version, which is, again, the thing that I don't think you should do, but I could say I'll take all of my Nova services and act as if I were to put them into one virtual machine. And that was actually a classic process even a year and a half ago where you would say, well, I'll still provide some segregation of these resources so I can do something like upgrade Keystone or upgrade Nova without necessarily impacting the rest of my environment. And my first level of segregation is virtualization, right? But the next step I could take is to actually map all of that into a container. Again, this is the thinking of containers or just Lite VMs. So there's an approach. It does work. It's not necessarily the most efficient, though. And so if we really want to use containers to their fullest, we start looking at individual processes in individual containers. And that's where we get to 70, 80, 90 potential containers still might be running on one machine providing that initial resource. And our interaction with those resources then is via network connectivity. So we're either talking restful interfaces, so the APIs that we know and love within Nova and Neutron, et cetera, or the back end processes, things like Rabbit providing its communication message bus services. But they're all coming out of individual containers that we can then upgrade potentially more at will. And so the many containers on the one host model as you're describing it, like you said, it's primarily, it's the virtual machine Lite. It's essentially using the same, I hate the word, paradigm just with a different technology, right? But once we have that working and proven, then we can really take advantage of containers and where we go to something like a Kubernetes or a Dockerform or some sort of orchestration system where now we're distributing it across many machines, we've got the high availability built in, and all of a sudden this is where containers really shine and bring us some value. Right, and if we look at the sort of the migration of process there, when we built systems that were monolithic, so all of our processes on one machine, we've probably used a tool like Puppet or Chef or Ansible to distribute those processes and distribute the application components onto all the physical resources that were actually running our environment. So classic model of three controllers, I have to have something replicate my control plane resources three times over. The same thing is true for containers. If I want to have three controllers, I'm going to still have to deploy the containers three times over, and I can do this manually using effectively the same model that I used to install the initial packages, right? Because often I would say, hey, go ahead and do a yum install Nova API. Well, I could do the same sort of thing and say Docker pull Nova API and then Docker run Nova API to get that process started. And so I can automate and enable all of these different containers on the specific hosts that they belong to and build out my distributed processing environment. One of the issues that comes up though, of course, is I have no way of managing those containers after I've launched them, other than again, writing additional Ansible to try to keep making sure that my containers are running and my services are running and the systems are running. To say nothing, I'm upgrading the services. Yeah, and if I want to upgrade them, I have to deal with this exact same sort of process. And this is, I think, where the container operating environment of specifically Kubernetes comes into play. So if you've gone to a bunch of the other sessions, which I'm sure many of you have, one of the sort of the key selling points that people are talking about today is OpenStack on Kubernetes. So the containerization provides value just because we've simplified the process of upgrading a particular component within our system. We've bundled all the resources that are what requires all the libraries together. The next step then is to say we can deploy these and we can use tools like Ansible to deploy them. And the call Ansible project is one model of doing exactly that, getting these containers out onto the specific hosts that they need with the configuration that they need and getting them running. We add the next layer, which is Kubernetes component on top, and now we have a management model for all of these distributed components. And all that Kubernetes is really doing is making sure that the particular version of a container that we want on a particular host is running where we would like it to run. And that's incredibly powerful because now if I lose a machine, I can replace it and Kubernetes can actually do the job for me of making sure that the processes get restarted on that new machine. So it becomes very powerful from that perspective. Absolutely. So at what point do we stop layering it? We've got the Kubernetes OpenStack, Kubernetes on top of that, we could just keep going forever. Well, I talked to somebody just the other day that said that they have Kubernetes, managing Kubernetes to manage Kubernetes, which can then run OpenStack, right? So we're starting to see multiple layers already. And it's kind of interesting because you can start building domains that have these different resources. A number of the folks that I've talked to that are looking at deploying OpenStack really wanna use it as a way of managing their entire data center, from bare metal to virtual machines to containers. And usually in that kind of a conversation, we start talking about things like the Magnum project as a way of launching a Kubernetes environment on top of OpenStack. So this is the other model of using containers. Not so much containers for managing the infrastructure or a particular application, OpenStack in this case is just one of the applications that you can install this way, but managing a custom built application on top of a flexible environment. So you do sort of get into a chicken and egg question, right? Which one do I want first? Don't wanna have Kubernetes and then OpenStack or do I wanna have OpenStack and then Kubernetes? Do I wanna have Kubernetes launching OpenStack, launching Kubernetes? I think there are lots of different approaches to this, right? And to me, the biggest value here is that having Kubernetes on top is the thing that the application developers are looking for. They wanna start building applications using Kubernetes as the model for their application deployments. If you're an operator and you find that something like Kubernetes makes sense for you, for other applications as well, it might be viable to deploy just one initial Kubernetes layer and then do something like layer OpenStack on top of that. And I've certainly seen companies that are banking on that model as the right approach to deploying these services, right? I'm familiar with one or two of those. Yeah, there might be a couple. But so even if you said, well, I wanna get Kubernetes down first, we still have the classic chicken and egg problem. How do you get the systems launched? So we have to have some way of building out our bare metal environment. Then we have to get Kubernetes installed and we have to have something monitoring the Kubernetes environment. So you have to think about that whole process. But once you have it, the models of containerization and Kubernetes driving the containerized processes, even though it's only two and a half years since the initial release of Kubernetes, it's actually become a very powerful and stable platform because they're very simple primitives driving that. But I don't think most applications, most enterprise environments are quite ready to say, oh, let's get rid of all of our virtual machines because we just managed to get some of our applications into virtual machines. So we still have a ways to go before we can just say, let's scrap all that old infrastructure. So I think there's still a lot of value to having an open stack layer, whether it's the very bottom layer in your infrastructure or sits on top of a Kubernetes infrastructure. Again, it all comes back down to what is the use case that you're trying to deliver. And it's not going to be a universal answer for any one situation. And luckily these tools interoperate so well that depending upon whether you need the portability at the base layer for upgrades and deployments or whether you need it at the application layer for your application developers who can't possibly have the bandwidth to understand their operating systems, there's a way to configure it that will line up for what you need to deliver. And I'm seeing people, especially when they're building very small systems that are not expected to grow, the largest I've seen that I think fits in this model is usually like about 16 compute nodes, maybe an equivalent size of storage because often these are big data targeted application environments. You might want an open stack environment running that just because you want flexibility in rebuilding the system as you understand which applications you want to use to run the environment. It's maybe a little bit more efficient to do this with virtualization. And in that case, I've seen people very effectively just use the call of Kubernetes model or rather the call of Ansible model, which is just let me get my containers built and then deploy my containers sort of as a one shot deal to get an open stack environment running. And then I'll use open stack to manage the rest of that infrastructure. So for small systems, that's pretty effective. Once you start looking at larger systems though, I think the benefit of having the Kubernetes underlay to help operate the open stack system that is then operating potentially thousands of nodes is incredibly powerful. So there is sort of a break even point where I think below it maybe you don't get a whole lot of advantage of having a Kubernetes layer and above it, you certainly start to see the benefits, especially in terms of keeping the system upgraded, keeping it at the current state that the environment needs to be. Expanding a little bit on what you just said there, I think there's a certain value in having the Kubernetes layer at the bottom where we have this enormous tent. It's not even a big tent in open stack of all of these different projects and services that are available to us. One project. And having that Kubernetes base layer allows you to say, well, I need my Nova and my Keystone and my Cinder, but I'd like to experiment with heat or I'd like to try out Trover, I'd like to do this and you can just sort of pop the container up, see how it interacts with things, decide whether or not it's good for you and then it's a little bit more user friendly. Well, and the containerization segregation in the past, if you did that, if you deployed heat into your environment, it was not necessarily easy to clean up what it used to actually get itself installed. Once you've gone through the process of containerization though, it's very easy to say, I can just remove that container and it won't remove the database resources that it may be created, but those usually are bundled fairly tightly into a specific database resource that you can drop, but it will get rid of all of the application code, all of the additional libraries or the specific libraries that that model of heat required, right? The other thing with containers that I think falls into that same sort of line is that if I decide to try to upgrade heat, right, I kind of start going through the same process. I have to get the software installed. Well, in the container model, all I have to do is copy the latest image onto the system. I can do that with something as simple as Docker pull or I can use the Kubernetes engine, if I've gone that far, to actually automate the process of trying to roll forward to a newer version. If something breaks, the nice thing is I can roll back and the restart time, this is something that often people talk about, you know, we always talked about how virtualization was nice because it would take 15 minutes to boot a physical server if you were lucky and it would take a minute to boot a virtual machine. Well, I can take that down to microseconds to launch the process in a container because I'm not booting an operating system, I'm just kicking that one process off within the operating system and that's as fast as any other command we might run within a particular machine, right? And because of that speed, if I upgrade to a new version other than things, again, like database manipulations that may have to go on, the process of turning on a new version is very fast. The process of turning it off and turning on the old version is just as fast. So it's another very powerful value and one of the reasons that so many people are saying, hey, containers are something we have to figure out how to leverage in our overall operations paradigm. So will containers save us? Yes. I actually, no, I'm actually quite serious about this. I have, you know, I used to build OpenStack systems and it would take days, right? We got to better and better automation for that and we got it down to the order of hours. But it would still take four or five hours pulling packages or pulling source code from a remote source to get an OpenStack environment built. With containers, if I have the containers pulled down from an online resource, I can build an entire OpenStack system in about five minutes. If it doesn't work, I can tear it down into the same amount of time, if not even faster. And that gives the ability to, from an operational perspective, to start cycling through trying things so much faster that it makes it possible to understand how things break. When things break, you don't necessarily have to fix them. You can often just replace them. It changes how we think about infrastructure as a manageable service. So I do think containers can actually save OpenStack from the blight of OpenStack is hard into something that is OpenStack is more manageable now. All right, so it's actually a very powerful tool for us. Yeah, I think that iteration improvement is really a value that's sometimes overlooked and is definitely, at least to my mind and to the applications that I'm responsible for delivering within my company and things that I'm aware of in that space. It's really the value for me. It's not the end user flashy, oh, I can just deploy a container thing that I was at DockerCon a couple of weeks ago. That was really great to see the things that they could do, but I was more interested in it from that ROI perspective on having my teams being able to deploy and test and iterate as quickly as possible and not have the overhead like you described. For me, it's the cost savings and I think that's where I can use the word save us very literally. How are we doing on time? Do we know? I don't know, but do we wanna have questions? Does anybody have a question? Was this useful? Are you guys awake? It's Thursday, it's after lunch. Kevin has a question. Oh, I'm not sure we're gonna let you have a go.  So talking about that immutability aspect of it and just replacing a broken container, what do you see as the impact on the upstream code base if your operators are no longer debugging these things and they're just saying, screw it, throw it out and give me another one? That's a good question. So I think the upstream community is there's still going to be debug. I don't mean to say that the only answer is if it doesn't work, just get rid of it and replace it because at some point we still have to figure out why did it break so that we can figure out what to replace it with. I was thinking about it more from the perspective of especially if I'm trying to upgrade or if I'm trying to change from one version to another. I have the ability to say that didn't work. Let me just go back to the previous version where I know things did work. Now at the same time, many of the processes are not even quite that simple to upgrade. Often if I'm going from one release to another of OpenStack, I'm gonna have to change how the database is structured somewhat. And that's going to add a bit of complexity. I think what we are going to see though is because of the speed of that process, because it doesn't take me an hour to build out the latest version of OpenStack and upgrade all the services, when I go through that process in a test environment, which is potentially a much lighter weight environment now too, I can understand what the database changes look like. I can understand how to validate that I can actually back out from that before I actually go and try this in my production environment. So that's gonna be important. But we can also start testing multiple versions. The last operators mid-cycle in Milan, one of the things that came up where people were saying, we finally got to a point where we could do an upgrade and it would work. And then the next version came out and we tried to do that upgrade, which would work if I had started blank at the current version, the now current version, but that breaks. But I think it's going to be easier for us to start testing those multiple release cycles and making sure that they work before we put them into a production environment and have them break there. Yeah, building on what Robert said, I think the iteration actually should provide us with more information, more data, more understanding of how different things do and do not work well together. There's, of course, the onus on human beings to report those things and fix those things. But I think back to, I was at VMware years ago, we had a giant matrix of all the possible guest operating systems and VMware offerings and we had to test them all. It was a commitment of time and resources to do that, that if we can iterate more quickly and we can see these processes really exponentially speeding up, then we should be able to collect more data and actually improve things faster if we're exposing where things aren't working well together. The other thing I would say about the container upgrades or the debug process, debugging containers is not the same as debugging processes on a normal operating system because often the container has segregated those processes. That's part of what containers do and understanding or getting into the container to see what's going on if you don't have the right tools installed is potentially an issue. So it's something that you have to understand the new model, new paradigm of doing that debug because it's still possible, right? And you can still get that information for the developers that they can help you fix it but it just requires a new thinking about how we're actually doing that. So just something to be aware of. Question. Yeah. If you have a container registry and you basically just pull your containers and install them then of course containers are great operationally but in real life I guess often you will have to also build your containers you have to maintain them and I guess in some way basically the problem then just is shifted from having to manage your installs and your upgrade scripts to having to maintain your build environment and all your Docker files or whatever. Is that something that we should be concerned about or do you expect that basically the upstream communities would provide those containers and whoever's using them would always just pull pre-built containers from some public registry or from whatever vendor? Yeah, I think you're gonna see both models. I think you're going to see some people, again the simple use case, the Kala community for example currently does have a current version maintained set of packages. I actually haven't talked to them to understand what they do about like interim patches so like patch releases if they're updating the containers for that. So that's maybe an open item there, right? But I do think there's an expectation that there will be somewhere a well-known source much like the cloud images that exist from a lot of different sources that that will continue to sort of exist. At the same time the containers may not be exactly appropriate for your environment. A very common one, picking probably the hardest project of them all, getting Neutron to work appropriately for your particular environment potentially integrating your networking services often requires building your own container from a specific model. The thing is that that's a model that can actually much more easily be integrated into a continuous integration process without some of the headache of the classic packaging problems that I think people have run into in the past. Making sure that you have an RPM packaging environment or a Debian packaging environment often was yet another whole orchestration and operations project that had to go on whereas a CI containerization process I think is a fairly lightweight service model. So building your own containers, having your own container registry isn't as big a problem in my view as the classic packaging process of the past. They're probably of similar scale though to a certain extent. The biggest advantage though is that when you then go to try to apply those packages to your production environment or through your staging into production environment the containerization of those resources means that you have sort of a known working set that isn't going to impact any of your other known working sets directly. And again that's the container advantage that's why I think so many application developers love containers. I know that I have the right libraries, the right binaries bundled together to run so long as my underlying container service runs. That's kind of what I see. Run Viko. Great talk. You brought a nice point about pushing intermediate patches to registry. So today in call of the PTO pushes just one day at the end of the release just once per cycle and there's a plan to automate pushing master every time container changes so in the form of intermediate builds and pushing the patches. So how do you think we can automate that or even use it in a production environment where like do we need to even try to build and push intermediate patches and how do we do it with multiple developers and even upstream is figuring this out. You have any thoughts about that? That's definitely an interesting problem because one thing is just because you've pushed a new container into let's say it's the Docker hub registry that doesn't necessarily mean that I even know about it or that I have a hook watching for that change to occur. On top of that I might not wanna just roll out that updated container unless I have the process in place to say okay let me roll it out and try it. Again if it's just a patch I'm not likely to be changing database structures so it should be something that I could very easily roll in and out if it doesn't work. But having that process is something that I don't think that's been fully automated in the call a project for example or any other project that I've seen to sort of maintain that relationship. And another question is like even if you automate it how would we notify the users who are to consume the patch so right now there's no like email mechanism and registries like let the users that new patches have been pushed so the upstream is also thinking about like pushing our email notification. I think the term that we all like to use now is microservice right? I want a microservice that. Microservice and email models. Cool thank you. Yeah all right. I think that the right probably answer there is if we can get to it having an API service that you can call a hook against and say hey I would like a notification message anytime something changes. In the long run that's probably the most efficient way but is that going to work for everybody? Probably not. There's some people that have restrictions about what they can see on the public internet and all those sorts of things. So we may have to poll. Exactly so you might not be able to poll either right? So okay. Well I think we're about at time. Any last questions? Okay. Thank you for sticking with us and thank you for coming.


this morning, what's happened inside the house or how it really occurred. Our disaster victim identification squad are there, the fire and rescue, urban search and rescue people are there at the moment. We've got to look at not compromising people by going into an unsafe building. So at the moment, the priority is just getting the buildings secured, making sure everything's in space and then we can step in and start our forensic examination as well. Look, as I said, what is readily apparent is just a tragedy on a kind of unimaginable scale of commandment. Really just trying to come to terms with what's actually happened. You've spoken to some of the family members that got out. What have they been able to tell you? Look, it's still, I haven't been able to be, I haven't been briefed on that yet, but they've only been able to provide a very, very brief picture. We haven't had the opportunity to sort of drill down and talk to them and find out exactly what happened. Understandably, you know, they're traumatized and beyond belief and they're still trying to come to terms with it as well too. But as time's progressing, it's just slowly getting a picture of it at this stage. We're still trying to provide a really accurate description of what happened. So do you have a lot of people inside and how many families? At this stage, when the fire actually started, there were 13 people in the house, consistent predominantly of two families. I said two managed to get out, but unfortunately we've got 11 people unaccounted for and we're still going through the rubble of them and trying to locate these people. Have you told that there were a number of children inside the house? We've got no idea yet of vages or, you know, sex or anything like that, but at this stage, although I really can confirm, unfortunately, it's just we've got 11 people there. And the men did escape? Was it two men that escaped? Two men escaped, yes. Well, one has suffered minor burn injury to the shoulder as well, two has been treated and he's back at the scene at the moment now, just assisting us. How's they able to get out? Is there possibly a third member of the third family there? At this stage, there's no indication of it. So predominantly two families, there may be one or two different, you know, people from outside that family group in the house there. Can you actually walk on the second story, the building because the floorboards look like they've collapsed? I'll leave it up to Peter to be able to explain where the seat of the fire is, but at this stage it's that we can't really compromise people by putting them to an area that's unsafe. So the main focus is just make sure everything's safe so we can go in and now forensic people can do their jobs. Do we know if there was smoke alarms in the home? Sorry? Do we know if there was smoke alarms? No, I don't. Have you ever considered how will that identification process go from now inside that building? Inside, look at it as, it is a slow and very methodical process, but for the sake of reporting these deaths to the coroner, we have to be 100% sure. And in some instances it may come down to, you know, dental identification. These are the people, some of the people that are here today were there in Bali and the Bali bombing back in 2002. So they're experienced, they've got a wealth of knowledge behind them and as I said, it's a slow, methodical process. Just ask the community to understand that we need to be 100% sure and it's no quick fix.  Has anybody been in cover? No, not yet. Have you seen this kind of tragedy in fire before during your trip? No, never in my service. Never I've seen anything like this. It's, as I said, it's, the longer it takes, the more, you know, as soon as we can get into the building, I think it's just what is readily evident. It's just, it's a total and other catastrophe. It's just a tragedy good on all proportions. Is there any idea of what started the fire at this point? Can you tell us anything about the fire? No, we can't. The fire is still under investigation. We have investigators from Queensland Police and Queensland Fire and Rescue Service. Investigating the cause at this stage, it is still undetermined. The two buildings? No, I haven't interviewed those people. That's, we leave that to the Queensland Police Service. Peter, when you look at that fire scene that's left there now, what does that tell you as a trained firefighter? When you look at that immediate scene, what do you see? I see a scene of tragedy. There's many lives that have been lost in this tragedy and they asked myself, could it have been avoided? It's undetermined whether or not smoke alarms were installed in the building. We have no evidence that they were or they weren't. So that's to be investigated. What is the intensity of the fire from what you consider? Firefighters arriving on scene within five minutes of the initial call from our Woodridge fire station, which is in close proximity where we are at the moment. They were faced with a total, total engulfment of the building in flame, which is what's inclusive of two vehicles parked external to the building and also four, 45 KLA LPG cylinders that were venting quite badly. So the fire was very intense upon the arrival. And how do you describe it in your years of experience? I haven't seen a tragedy which is to this extent. I've certainly seen a lot of fatalities in my time, both in road crash rescue and house fires, building fires, but not to this extent.  It's the whole building. We have our urban search and rescue units attending in the very near future to assist the police in the recovery phase of those, deceased and they will, they will shore the building after doing a risk assessment in relation to making the building safe for entry. You've been helping it in years. It has to unsafe to go in. The internal part of the house, the floor has collapsed and there is a lot of debris within the building. Superintendent, this is part of your community here. You're the officer who's only touched with a lot of these community elements. How do you think this is going to be taken? The ramifications that we've seen this morning is just a huge outpouring of grief amongst the community here, just in this local area. The community spirit in the local area is none that I've ever seen anywhere else. It's very supportive, very close-knit in terms of diversity of the number of cultures living here. But this, the community spirit, is phenomenal. But I don't think it'll take some months for this to, the community sort of comes some stage to an even recovery from this. I said it's, you know, the total number of people lost in one particular incident have in regard to their family. Their family's obviously members of the community as well too. I think it'll take a long time for this to sort of even dissipate or even the hurt to go away and some sense of normality come back to us again. Superintendent, how long do you expect it will be before the body is removed from the house? I can't really say it this day. It depends on how long it takes to shore the building up. I'd like to be able to give you an answer, but they will definitely be out by today. And the coroner has been notified. The coroner has indicated that he or she will be coming down here at some stage during the day and having a little gun. But then that all forms part of our brief to put together for the coroner. The pathologist will obviously want to come along and have a look as well too. So a number of things in training that we need to just sort of sit back and wait. But as I said, it's a slow, methodical process. But these are things that need to be done and actually depict an accurate picture of what happened. And typically, how long does it take to find a cause? Usually, it's something that depends how apparent it is. But I think I'll leave that up to Peter's area of expertise. But as soon as it's determined, we'll be able to sort of work on what happened from there. And then it's up to our disaster victim identification people to work out the movements of the people and how they all came to perish. I understand there was a power line. I was unaware about anything about any power lines Neighbours have said that the families from Tonga, the two families. Yeah, all I can confirm is that we believe they're from Pacific Island nationality. I don't know exactly what runs them. How much assistance have the two men done? They've been quite beneficial in terms of the last movements of actually what happened. But obviously they're not going to be too much of assistance in terms of how the fire started, where it started. They'll just be able to sort of give us those last terrifying moments and just hopefully help us put all the pieces together.  And then that's just this part, as I've said, community healing is going to be the one that we're really going to have to work on and we're really going to have to ask people to help support each other. No, not at this stage. It's just they both managed to get out and it would appear that they're very fortunate to get out as well too. So we just have to wait and see, guys. It's three generations of the same family. To how many? Three generations of the same family. Yeah, I don't know about how many generations and then what the specific makeup of, you know, ages or anything were, but these are things that'll come out. The more we talk to the people who survived, the more we find out from the recover from the scene, you know, we'll be able to paint a more accurate picture. Are the two men from the same family? I've got no idea. No, I can't help you. The men or the people in the house? The men. Now, I just don't have that information. They're both in their 40s or 40s to 50s. Peter, are you surprised anyone was able to get out? I find that question very difficult to answer. The benefit of having working smoke alarms, of course, is early notification. I mentioned before that it's yet to be determined whether or not smoke alarms were activated within the building or installed. And, Peter, typically an investigation on the cause, how long do you think that's going to take? I can't give you a clear indication on that. It depends on the investigators, what information, what evidence they need to gather in relation to formulating their report.