Welcome back to the channel day in the life. That's all this is man day in the life um, I Put out a video on YouTube A couple days ago or it might have been yet. Yeah, it was a couple days ago a couple days ago You'll see which one it is but Let me um And I just think there was some golden nuggets in there That will help a few people on specific email list that I have and And so I'm gonna send them an email and I'm gonna send them an email directly to that YouTube video video But I'm gonna set it up in a way where I'm tracking everything my fake my Facebook pixel is tracking everything and And and and there's a call to action to get them to schedule an appointment Okay, so I'm gonna just kind of walk you through how I'm gonna how how I set all that up And how I set it all up through cartridge As well, okay, so there's a fourth-stage trial profit with cartridge dot online That link is in the description, but I use it for my landing pages. I use it for my email auto responder I use it for my email broadcasting to build my list, right? I use it for my membership course. I use it to host videos I use it for my calendar and then I do and then I I'm an affiliate I'm an affiliate with them.  You know what I mean? and so What I'm gonna do and what I do the way I send out my email broadcast email broadcast are one-off emails When someone comes to a landing page and they opt in they're on an email list, right? You should have tied to that email list an email auto responder, which is your sequence So you can have it it's an option You can have it tied to an email auto responder or you don't people that opt in go to one list And then you can email that list whenever you want But what you also want to do is also also have a few emails pre-written have a few emails You know that are designed to go out. That's your that's your auto responder. You want to be able to nurture that list Whether you lift a finger or not whether you're asleep or not You want emails going out and nurturing that list, right? But then sometimes you're gonna have those one-off emails right now I'm gonna have this one-off email and and this is just an idea that came to me a few minutes ago And I'm like dude, let me just email my list real quick Let's get some appointments going and let me just you know show my YouTube fan pal I'm gonna do it so and why I'm gonna do it and why I do it this way, you know what I mean? So it's all about it's all about driving Driving a click driving a view and driving a call to action Driving a scheduled appointment. My whole call to action in this is to get people to schedule an appointment And I'm gonna show you how I build that simple landing page I built it once and then just clone it clone it clone it for every one-off emails that I do in the future Which are these broadcasts or for any emails that I want to set up in my email auto responder I can build everything around this templated page and just keep cloning it keep duplicating it change it up change the call to action button I'll show you how simple this is But it's this one right Here which one was it it was I think yeah, it was this one those requirements. It was this this this right here requirements So here's what I want to do. I want to drive the click. I'm gonna email my list Okay, so for those of you that are real estate agents for those of you that are freaking Just any type of online entrepreneur or any type of entrepreneur if you're capturing leads if you're a loan originator If you're if you're selling cars, whatever dude, if you're capturing leads on the internet You you you want to for sure do video and you want to for sure email this list email that list and Just stay top of mind and so in this case what I want to do is I want to email them this video I want them to watch this video right here and This is how I'm gonna do it. This is how I'm gonna do it. So Here are the different pages that I have. Let's see. It's These are all yeah, this is actually in I have all these different categories So I can go to all categories and I can see all of my pages from every funnel From every from every campaign Whatever all on my pages, right or I can I can you know choose different categories and then in this case it's going to be This category right here Okay, and then so in here I've sent out email broadcast I also set up a handful of emails in my email sequences in my auto responder and A few of them go to these different pages and so on these different pages. All I got to do is come in here hit clone Do it for the next email right again? Whether I'm whether I'm pre-setting a handful of emails to dump in an email auto responder or Whether I'm just randomly think enough stuff and I want to email it because I know it could provide value, right? All I do is come in here and clone the page clone the page clone the page and again My whole thing is to get them to watch that video because I want them used to my YouTube channel I'm promoting that video, but I'm but I'm gonna do it on a page. Okay, and then I'll tell you why again I'll tell you why so All I'm gonna do is I'm gonna clone I'll clone this one And I'm taking you from the beginning you guys this is the beginning Okay, so I'm gonna clone this one and this one's gonna be Requirements Okay, and then it's gonna go in that category and I'll just hit clone Okay, so here's what I do man. Here's what I do There's even some email lists that I'm on Mentors of mine people that I follow right and that's the thing man clean out your inbox clean out your inbox unsubscribe from all the crap that you don't need to be on people that you were following back in 2009 Like like unsubscribe from all that crap I would I would I'd go into your spam folder and I would just look at ones that kind of look legit Click on it and see if there's an unsubscribe unsubscribe from all that stuff man. That way you can keep your inbox clean Because that's super super basic and super important so here's what I'm gonna do Let's see Let's see Okay requirements for okay, that's that's the name of the video and I'll put that at the top of the Little headline requirements for generally with Facebook ads. Okay, cool. And then all I'm gonna do you guys I'm gonna edit this video placement That's a YouTube video. It's a simple YouTube video, but rather than sending them an email with just Texts and then and then maybe a hyperlink watch here, right? It's a hyperlink they click on it and then they go straight to YouTube and then they and then they just watch it here Rather than me taking them straight here Because once I take them here Take me here It's crazy because some of my mentors people I follow all click and they're taking me straight to their YouTube channel and and I'm gonna keep it real 15 seconds later. I'm watching car chases, right? Like 15 seconds later. I'm watching freaking Cat videos, you know what I mean? It's like dude like don't take me straight attention Keep the attention focused that consumer that end consumer needs. You need to keep them focused. Okay, so Rather than me taking them over here where they can come over here and then all of a sudden dude to the right There's a ton before you know it. I'll bump a nipsey hustle I'm telling you send me to your YouTube channel and in in in about 2.9 seconds. I'm over here bumping nipsey, you know, I mean like That's why I don't do it. That's why I don't why I don't do it And so what I do is I'll take them to a page. So here's what I'm gonna do.  It's crazy. Okay, so I can autoplate if I want but I don't need to do that So I just save that right so here's what I do My whole thing is I'm bringing them to a page where I can Facebook pixel them Okay, right here tracking code down here my Facebook pixel so number one so I can Facebook pixel them Create a custom audience of everyone who's landing on this page, right? And then now I can I can I can include them in future targeting of Facebook and Instagram ads And I can even include them or exclude them from future Facebook and Instagram ads I can also exclude them, right? So That right there is important man if you're sending out emails and again I couldn't have done that if I send straight to YouTube, right? I said I'm you to unless I'm just really tracking with Google Analytics, which most of you probably aren't So it's like just with the Facebook pixel alone. It's super basic. It's super simple like I'm bringing them to my page and I learned this from one of my mentors, right? I'm bringing them because because I would click on his on his email on his hyperlinks He would take me away from that email, right? There's a call to action in every email man So when I'm on these different lists of different people that I follow I'll click and boom One of my mentors takes me here to his page and I would look at it I'm like dang. Okay. This is why he did it. So now he can include a button He can first put that Facebook pixel and he can track me through his Facebook pixel And then he can put a button to get me to do something whether it's buy something whether it's Schedule an appointment whether it's Freakin join a Facebook group click here to join like whether it's to register for a webinar. Whatever you can You have my narrow focused attention With a very specific call to action Right. So it's like that's why man. That's why this is super super powerful And and then down here are my are my social media links But again, man, it's really it's really good to to to to capture that custom audience And then to give them a very specific call to action and this call to action in this case It's going to be click here to schedule a free strategy call And so this is what I'm going to do is click on text Click here. Okay, and this is where I'm going to take them click here to schedule your free strategy call Okay, I'm gonna hit apply and then what I'm gonna also do is I'm going to add an icon and the icon is Going to be a little house a little home Add that right there and then I'm gonna link it. So when they click on it I'm going to link it to a Cartra calendar a lot of you bozos out there are using the free Calendly You got a 14-day trial for schedule once right or you're using the little free version Step your game up dude. You're gonna like for first of all if you're on the free Calendly When I go to your send me your link all schedule an appointment when I schedule an appointment Do I go to a confirmation page? And if I do is your Facebook pixel tracking that page You got to be able to you got to be able to customize and and and build a custom audience around everyone who also Schedules an appointment so that Facebook pixel that event code needs to be on the confirmation page I'm gonna show you right now. So boom. This is gonna gonna open in a new tab When they click on that and I'll show you when they click on that It's going to take them straight to my calendar. Okay, click here to schedule your free strategy call And that's that right there. So now I have their their their focused attention I'm getting the YouTube view exposure and then the call to action at the very end is is to take them to my calendar Now in the video. I'm not saying anything about that, right? It's just a random YouTube video But as they're as they're watching it, they're gonna know because again, it's this is going to a specific list It's not going to actually will damn it's it is on my YouTube channel for all you guys to watch But at the same time in that video, there's specific, you know messages to that type of a business owner so it's like This is my link right here and I can easily drop it down in my custom link Because there's my custom link, but I don't I don't care too. I don't even need to it's no big deal. So I'll just Because all I'm gonna do is I'm gonna this is a page. I'm gonna email them this link So this is the link that goes in the email that I'm gonna put together right now And again, I'm bringing them here to keep their attention on this one YouTube video Now of course they can click up here and all of a sudden be on my YouTube channel, of course But if I can keep their attention for a little bit right here, that's fine But at the same time in a split second the moment they landed here I'm already Facebook pixeling them. So that that was my whole intention My whole intention was to was to Facebook pixel you and and put you into a custom audience That was my whole intention and then down here also if this call to action, you know Make sense to you then you'd be able to click on it right here boom and it takes you straight to my cartridge calendar calendar That's why man a lot of you still messing around with Calendly. It can only do so much man over here Simple simple calendar all in one Right, and then people could just come down here Scheduling appointment right they can click on it and then here's the thing boom when that goes through look Here's what's super important. That's what you don't get on the free Calendly account Look man. I keep trying to tell you guys look When I when I um When when that person submits right when they schedule that appointment This is the page that you need to take me to this facebook or this confirmation page Is what i'm able to facebook pixel So i'm able to build an audience around everyone who has scheduled an appointment with me Right So these are people like think about it you go run your future facebook ads and you're looking for appointments Why would you want to be shown it to these people like not at all? so this allows me to build a custom audience and exclude them From ever seen another ad like that's what I want to do I don't need to keep showing them schedule appointment call call ads right because they're already they're already You know categorized and they're excluded so That's super important man. That's super super basic And super important so your ads manager over here, man It better be You know on on on point in your pixel better be on that page. That's the link right there you guys So here's what i'm going to do. I'm going to close that out I'm going to save progress I'm going to publish live And now that link is ready to go and i'm going to simply write a simple email man a simple email And and and there's the link right there. So we got that link right there And again click here to schedule your free strategy call That whole video is is just is just some basics that I was talking about Regarding a strategy call that I just had With that type of a business owner. So that's why I'm sending the then this email in hopes of Them being like damn. Okay. He that video did did make sense like Let me let me let me talk to him. You know what I mean? So again, that's the ability of taking them to a page I couldn't have done it if I took them straight to youtube, of course, I could put any link I want in the description But it's not really a focused Call to action like like this is you know, let me refresh this. This is this is the page This is this is where i'm taking somebody so Um there's that specific call to action click here to schedule your free strategy call And then while you're while you're in the actual builder as well, you can see what it looks like on mobile like let me Let me go back in. Let me let me show you real quick because this is really cool Yeah, I should have showed you this a second ago, but it's all good Um Right here at the top you got desktop desktop view tablet view and mobile view So these pages again simple pages man simple pages But i'm telling you you create one and then you just clone it clone it And you can add you know buttons you can add more text you can add all that and in fact, you know what you know what dude You know what? I need to write that down here. I need to write that i'm so glad i'm coming back in.  That's what it looks like clean basic. That's all it is dude press play You watch the video from right there in that window, right?  That's the reason why I bring them to a page Okay, so here's what i'm gonna do here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna write some basic text At the top i'm gonna click it i'm gonna drag it i'm gonna drop it right where it's green I'd love to I'd love to Okay super super basic i'm gonna bold that i'm gonna center that I'm actually even going to Increase the size i'd love to chat with you regarding these basic steps That will Help you with your Help you with your social media branding and lead capture Click button below to schedule your free call click here schedule your free strategy call. Okay, so Let me save progress Let me publish live And I think I can go straight to publish live you guys, but I just I just go I just do both of them dude um Okay, so then there I can get the link right there bam And then let's return a dashboard and now now we're good. Let's finalize this broadcast email so in our in our email this link And up here in the title of the tab inspired digital right there in the tab I could change that to whatever I want right so you I could have easily you know changed that but I have that I have that So here's a page man. Here's a page. I'd love to chat with you regarding these basic steps That will help That will help with your social media branding and lead capture click button below to schedule your free call Click here to schedule a free strategy call and then boom they click on that And it goes straight to my calendar Bam Okay, so here's what i'm gonna do. I am going to go into my communications And then I am going to hover over communications and go to broadcast. This is a one-off email right one off email It's a video that came out a couple days ago, and I'm fired up about it And I really think you know this list this specific list Can get some value out of it. So um, I'm going to drive a little bit of traffic to it by a simple email man Uh broadcast name. I'm going to name this one Okay requirements um, let's go Yeah, book customers Okay, cool Okay, so we're gonna come in here And we are going to send by email And it's going to come from that email right there. That cannot be a yahoo or a gmail. That has to be a legit domain So just set set yours up and then this one. I'm going to send to everyone who is subscribed to a list um Everyone who subscribed to that list or or Subscribed to Um This one or Subscribed To our late students that one or Subscribed To Okay, and then and then subscribe to I think I can do one more um Bam Okay, so those are the lists that I'm sending them to man. So on those lists there's 178 178 of some really You know powerful, you know leads. They're those are solid leads Those are people who who bought a book or read my book or downloaded a free copy of my book Who scheduled an appointment with me but may have not became a client um and so Book customers who didn't buy my course, right? So they haven't bought my course. They're not a client yet So they're still on one of these lists for a reason and um Not a super big list, but it's a it's an effective list, right? I'll get some activity out of that alone And can you just imagine when when that's a few thousand like you know what I mean? So Um single email and then I'm and then this is the email I'm gonna be I'm gonna say john John Please watch This video Hey, hey john Hey john Hope all is well and your and your closing deals Here's Here's a video I uploaded to my channel a few days ago I was talking about a recent strategy Okay, so here's what i'm gonna do this right here Um I have a template Let me cut that and let me go to advanced And let me pull my template my templates So all you gotta do is just just create a template you guys and then just you know, keep using it I use this one because it has my footer and it has my little icons down here and then I just um build around Build around this So i'm gonna just paste that in So i'll just just to just to be safe. I'm gonna do that Dynamic variable One more time Okay, hey jack Hey jack hope all is well and your closing deals Here's a video. I uploaded.  Okay, so let's hyperlink this Okay, here's a here's a video. I uploaded to my youtube channel a few Days ago. I was talking about a recent strategy call I had with trisa and her daughter Samantha with exp realty. I truly believe you'll get some value out of it. You can watch here So let's take this out Actually, you know what let's um let's hyperlink this Fold that hyperlink that And then what i'm gonna do I can also normally what I do is I add an image I add an image. Um Let's go with You know what normally I add an image, but i'm gonna leave it at that. I'm gonna leave it at that I'm gonna leave it at that Okay, so let's send test email And we'll send it to cantero Okay, so send test Okay, so we sent the test. Let's check our email No automation needed right now Send now I can send it now I can schedule for later. I can save as a draft But i'm gonna save and next or I can go back. So let's check this this test email Make sure that this this email looks good. Make sure that it that it takes us to the correct destination And we're good, man So again, my whole intention man build that custom audience facebook pixel that person who visits there's a test right there test Please watch this video They click on that. Hope all is well. Here's a video you can watch here And then so let's click on here's a video And that takes us straight to our page Where I am facebook pixeling them And putting them in a specific custom audience right and then I'm getting them to watch that youtube video Right So now we're watching now now they're watching the youtube video and then I'd love to chat with you regarding these basic steps That will help with your social media Social media branding and lead capture click button below to schedule a free call Your free call and then they click on that and boom you guys Straight to my calendar. So step your game up, man There's a there's a fortune day trial profit with kartra dot online. I use it for all this man That's all this is it's here's the machine now. It just comes down a driving traffic Driving traffic and that's where you have to get good at paid at paid advertising social or facebook advertising instagram advertising and or youtube advertising, okay, so Um, it's that it's that basic man. So I'll see you guys in the next video


Very good morning to you and thanks for joining us. We sincerely apologize for beginning a little bit late It was due to unforeseen circumstances beyond our control But however we're here and any time that we meet is a good morning to us and we pray that the day will be very very beautiful There are a lot of things that are going to happen today today. We'll start the hearing of the case the case in the Supreme Court instituted by The PDP and its presidential candidate Against the APC. We also are going to we're going to be praying that they the UK court will rule in favor of Nigeria because the PR be an ID case or if I'm not mistaken is going to be decided today and everybody's praying that it should be in Nigeria's favor because 11 billion dollars it's money that we don't have in Nigeria right now so no matter what Divide you are in Nigeria. We should pray. We say we are a praying country This is the time to actually pray because it's out of our control We hope that that judgment will be such that it will favor Nigeria But if it doesn't favor Nigeria with such that It will not for the same cause deeper and deeper into despair More than we are already facing now What we're going to be doing basically today is to review the papers because there are so many things in the papers that we need to just look at and Talk about whether we have a guest that will be talking with us or not But it's good for us to just see what the headlines are What are the things that made it to the front pages of the headlines? By the way, my name is Nyam Ghul Aghaji and I'm wishing you a very pleasant day With us.  I'm hoping that you go get the opportunity to work at it So just something to just munch on this morning Maybe you are in the wrong place because no matter what it's They love and the passion for what you do that keeps you at times or in the times of Adversity anyway, let's go to the papers now and see what the papers are saying. Let's begin with The punch newspaper on of the press this morning Pumps newspaper will be our first port of call as we begin federal government plans 26 trillion Naira borrowing 29 trillion Naira for debt servicing So federal government that promised us that we may never see them borrowing anymore has said that they're going to borrow 26 trillion Naira and Then 29 trillion is for debt servicing Okay, the riders on that story that debt servicing to exceed capital budget spending by 7.69 trillion Naira are made slow economy and also high debt servicing costs creating potential fiscal risks government laments Also in the punch if you go to the top left corner, you will see Naira slums further exchanges 1190 Naira per dollar and that is being very moderate because in some quarters. It's being exchange for far far higher than that about 1200 Naira to a dollar fuel hits 685 Naira per liter in the north Well, not only in the north in some places even in the south fuel has hit that much and then that places that do not have filling stations or yeah filling stations and They they depend on what we call black market and in the black market is already 1500 Naira in so many places that we know about Assassination is also in the punch newspaper assassination police probe alleged attempt on bellow The story was carried that the governor of Kogi state Escaped an assassination attempt the police is on the lookout for these people and if the police wants to do their job I'm sure that they are going to get these people That did this we are very happy. I'd like to applaud the police Police force for what they did in Benway state There were there was a an armed robbery in Benway state where some police officers were killed and some other innocent people were killed Multiple robberies now they have caught at least four people that were involved in that robbery incident And we hope that they are going to nap the rest of the people and bring them to justice We also have five die 15 in June in Lagos Iberdon expressway crash There was that accident yesterday on Kara bridge and You can see the bus there was mangled. There was a container that fell Maybe it fell on top of the boss or something and it led to the death of five people And there was also massive traffic on until you get to Kara Once you pass Kara, it was free to Iberdon. So APC PDP hopeful a Supreme Court battle starts today That's also there. So we're going to hear what the Supreme Court is going to say and We'll know how it's going to possibly end from what we're going to hear today friends more Nigeria medical student killed in Philippines and then Israel hammers Biden Pope Protesters want ceasefire That is all from the punch newspaper We're moving from the punch newspaper to The daily independent newspaper the independent is our next pot of coal this morning or Maybe we'll skip the independent and go to the Guardian newspaper the Guardian newspaper leads with at $1,200 to a dollar 985 Naira per liter fuel spike squeezes a travel pricing Okay, that is on page six of the Guardian newspaper then There also have we can clarify is meeting with Israeli envoy as pandas I and see him knock Gumi Answers father now asks ministers to review plan on five hundred Million Naira fine for conflict convicts rather We think palliative stepper productive engagement That is an editorial on the Guardian. You can see that on page 12 and then correlation result to protest lawsuits to stop purchase of 57 billion narrow SUVs for lawmakers So print court justices down by one as Musa that Tijo bows out Okay, two is attack customs house kill officer in Yubei and a tickles eight Tucker still able over forgery allegations those are the headlines on the Guardian newspaper we're being joined by a Mr. O'Connor ball in court area Who is our analyst for today? Good morning and welcome to the program open a ball Please unmute yourself. We can't I can't seem to hear you Okay, why we wait to get the audio from open a ball. We're just continuing from the from the Guardian newspaper moving to the next newspaper the nation newspaper Hopefully The nation newspaper leads with a table's homegrown plan Good to revive economy that is according to a do the minister of economy the headline is takes open shunners NITR accounts word but Senate minority leaders victory and Then we have a doing to the booze homegrown Plan good to revive economy the rider is there's no likelihood of Nigeria seeking international assistance on that restructuring Can I go here me now? Good morning? Okay, welcome to the program Yes, I can hear you now. Good morning Okay Yeah, interesting headlines this morning we'll be taking some of the ones that the papers are available to us now and Sometimes maybe delve into some other papers that may not be here, but headlines that we've seen Have made it to the front pages of some newspapers. Let's begin with the punch newspaper federal government plans 26 trillion narrow burrowing and 29 trillion era for debt servicing. Let's begin with that When the six million are boring and 29 trillion for debt servicing It's an endless circle it's a shame that Most times in Nigeria we borrow for the worst reasons You go to purchase cars Members you borrow to do all kinds of for all kinds of frivolities You don't really go to look at how much was borrowed from even China to do Real drugs and so We are finding it very difficult to pay You go to fly your it's around the world You go to pay salaries You have how many ministers how many it's and what have you and you're boring Doesn't make sense This is when you do the insurance to tighten the belt and your belt is fast moves. It's not fighting at all Look at how much we spend every month and every year to service debts That's that's servicing. So even if you talk about this is a country that is producing nothing That ought to be producing much in terms of oil and other natural resources We are producing nothing in this country Yet we are boring. How do we pay? What you don't think of how you pay don't think of how to generate force You don't think about the jury's You don't think about the jury's Establishing doesn't they are just concerned about boring And why we ask the question of why you boring you're going to buy cars Very expensive cars. What you can do to take those in here to purchase cars You're going to pay salaries We'll wear The mandatory requirement in terms of requirement to get a six-stage plus one You don't even need me in the state ministers. There's a process now.  That's what you're doing You're not even boring to ensure that we are next order natural resources. That's not what you're doing You're boring to travel to different countries and also pay salaries with your age You're traveling your years, and you also bring them to life and most of these appointments are complete or necessary and right now Officially, we've heard that the Naira is well In the black market is up to one thousand one hundred and ninety. In fact, some people are carrying one thousand two hundred Naira to a dollar And I don't know how we can place that side by side with these borrowings and how we intend to survive To be two thousand I have to endure very soon and You know the last time we were there I Referred to our policies as our system as political supermodelism You sleep while sleep working. We don't really know we are seeing don't you know what to do when country has to what steps to take and What has first under situation is? While the nation is bleeding Our leaders are busy And join themselves Not minding what is going on. You know we practice Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor That is the system of government work in this country not necessary democracy I We talk of your condemning and passing other African countries that are involved in coups. I say what is the difference?  A as my president and mr. B Menace as my president Contrary to the expression of the wheel of the people is that not a cool? That's a good We're not in this package Actually to be five thousand that look at The front of someone was telling me How did you want money has more value than a German policy? It's not a stream Ghana is often to give us gas right. It's not the sheen I hear to say you're the gender fabric Mmm The headlines also carry that fuel has hit 685 per liter in the north And I was just saying that It's not only in the north even some parts of the south it has hit that high And in some places that they depend solely on the black marketers They are already buying at 1500 and in some places 2000 naira per liter. So I don't know How much? want 685 naira per liter in the north fuel Yes You're asking why is it that high? No, no, I'm saying that fuel even when we're trying to bear money and then the dollar is now 100 or 1200 Fuel has hit 685 naira per liter in the north Oh, we are approaching apocalyptic dimension Is it when the rodents takes We I said earlier when a state of When country we don't really know where we're going to Is is a complicated situation Occasioned by cataclysmic leadership Leadership that does not really understand What the country needs Why won't the price of fuel go is it First and foremost The federal government is not subsidizing But there's a lot of arguments that the federal government is even subsidizing I didn't think federal government is subsidizing Then Mr. President, we've seen that Why would you come out to tell Nigerians that oh well, I'm very sorry for that policy We have to subsidize given the situation pending When the situation improves Where the price of fuel will go let's look at the indices What is the landing costs? The landing cost is about 700 or 800 That's the landing cost, they're not even going to do profits They don't have forex So we're going back to NMPC being the sole reporter of patrol Most of them are complaining these are forex The important fuel And when you have all these challenges What do you expect Some that will come in will increase your price Because that is the view of making a profit And if you also consider Even if you have to make not abnormal profits, normal profits When you consider the landing cost, we use about 800 naira now in fact You consider the forex You consider, I mean give it, take it or leave it Those that are important will have to make some money from it It's their business It all boils down to our naira And our inability to be a productive country Or deliberate inability to be a very refusal to be a productive country If we had a refineries boat, we wouldn't be having all these problems Why do they refuse to feed the refineries? And yet we pay every year for turnaround maintenance Is that not ridiculous? And you say you know the kebab Yet not one has been named changed Not one has been prosecuted Every day you say you know the kebab Is that not in some level of insanity? In some level of insanity You see that amrobar stealing from your building You say you know the amrobar What you're going to do rather than deal with the amrobar And show that he'll give money to his friends You say look of that building And we hear that the UK Court is going to rule today on the case Is it a PI and TD or something That we're owing 11 billion dollars And the ruling is going to be today We don't know where it is going to go Whether it's going to be in favor of Nigeria Or it's going to be against Nigeria in the long run I just pray it's going to be safe Because we cannot even afford to pay that We don't even have the money to pay that And then with the judgment of the Supreme Court Then that is fine and you can't put any other courts To seek redress I think you are just asking How did we even get here in the first place? Because of some shitty deals Some persons were trying to be smart And were trying to make money from that deal And so all kinds of agreements were reached Not knowing that there will be a backlash In Nigeria everything goes In this country everything goes The only time you are penalized for something Is when you are against the government Or when the new government is not your friend Otherwise even in continuity with impunity With impunity So somebody thought He was going to make some good money from it Was one great victory He was going to make some good money from it And it backfired That's all That's all Interesting So today is also a very important day Apart from the UK ruling that we are praying Should be in our favor We also have the APC PDP hopeful As Supreme Court battle starts today Well, the matter is going to be solved Isn't it to really get dab into the integrity I am just worried Really worried Because the main issue is the issue of certificates And when people come up in defense I get really angry I get really infuriated Agadjid If you ever ask you The school you went to Is easy for you to mention I realize that you never attended a secondary school For Sata Tun For his 10 years and eventually became a standard accountant It happens If I ask you now Agadjid What year were you born I don't think there will be any controversy There is no way that you are going to have five dates of birth I don't think so I don't think you forget your second to tell me one was in the battle And when somebody comes up to say no you are not in the battle I say it was in Lagos You come up with such ridiculous excuses, statements and arguments Now okay, you went to social school No problem But you did not get the YF To enter the school Which is a pre-qualification How did, that doesn't even leave the university How did you get admission into dance Because you didn't pass The schools you claimed you attended It is now obvious That they were established four years after you claimed You are taking the death from school That was when they were established Let us clean the case So let us go into those issues Is it I listened to somebody on the sister station today Why didn't they raise this issue before now Why did Agadjid say that? Some ridiculous arguments So are you telling me what are they going to say? Why did they remove him after he was sworn in as a senior president? Though they have also left him Though they have left some issues to worry Because nobody would have come up to say No, let's try to remove him They would have just said no he has been sworn in and let him go Go up to recently house of right member Who are just elected They called three men out for satirical forgery So what people come up to say Look, crime is not time bad to start it Though those the drafters of the rule Move importance and the significance of a crime And that's why it is not time bad Let's understand something In law, because you are part of the system as well In law, what comes first? Is it technicality or the merits of the case? Because we have seen the situation So what we are saying is that the technicality is just a sort of use For just this miscarriage And that is why the likes of the computer and code said Do not dwell on technicalities Dwell on the merits of the case And there is a computer and code And that is what they did In the old technicality for example now you say Pre-election matters Everything concerning qualification should be pre-election matters Then after the election a finding You guys realize that they claim They say you must be 20 years on a boat to contest for an election Then where these are issues that must be settled before the election Once the person makes as a candidate That person is qualified and carries the issue of age anymore I have not given an example Then the man lies is qualified or presumably qualified For that election because of the credentials he presents To find out that a right that is after being qualified After being elected as a candidate of that party Then the judge tells you because he is the corrupt And that is pre-election matter Do you understand it now? Yeah Because it's corrupt that is pre-election matter Technicality not the merits of the case Is that on miscarriage of justice? Because we see in so many instances where you find a case You find a clerical case but we are not lawyers We do not understand You find a clerical case and they just dismiss the case because of technicalities That's what I'm saying And a lot of them forget what you call judicial activism That is where you have the lines of Lord Denny Nanko The lines of Baskini You have the lines of Obucha Nanko and Niantoro Yes we agree this is it Because what the law, what the court says the law is Is what the law is Yes we agree this is this, this is this But no after all We are talking about the issues All these issues we are talking about today We are created by same human beings Can't we change it? Why do you have equity? Man to party the experiences of the law That's the whole essence of the case This is the law But somebody came up to say yes this is the law We agree but let us also look at it this way That's how it is, that's the genesis of it Now the Supreme Court justices are down by one line Supreme Court today can, whatever the Supreme Court says is what the law is Upright judges who base their judgments on merits At the example I gave to you Let us assume that the man is now, they say 20, the man is 18 You say that is pre-election You had 31 days or 48 days to deal with pre-election matters You failed to so do Therefore the man is qualified So automatically you say it's a transgression of the provisions of a constitution It's a transgression of the electoral provisions or electoral acts And you have now started a new policy of a tedious context How can you want a country like that? And the job you now base is, you now base its argument on the law, pre-election matters To understand is right too Because the law says pre-election matters after 70 days, after 40 days, after 30 days So why did you not file within that time? Those are technicalities But if you're talking about the merit, yes we agree, these are pre-election matters This is a cause It's supposed to be a court of justice By then, to start it you are not qualified You should even be charged for petrary because you lied Because it imposed on affidavits to support your documents So you should even be charged for petrary, I'll tell you the nation will sit on But when they now come to say these are pre-election matters, forget it These are, these are forget it You're encouraging, you're watering the farm of corruption That's what you're doing, you're watering the whole farm of corruption So you are hopeful that this, this new judgment will be based on merits rather than technicalities Anyway, right now the Supreme Court is down by one man because Musa Batijo has barred out They didn't resign or retire, I think they retired Why do you have death of judges? Well, I mean that, I mean D-E-A-R-N-T-H of judges, justices of the Supreme Court There should resuscitation plan What is the NJC doing? There should resuscitation plan But will it affect one of our, one of our proceedings? But all cases will go to the Supreme Court Will this affect the, the proceedings at the Supreme Court? Sorry? Will this retirement or barring out of justice Musa affect whatever is supposed to happen at the Supreme Court? But you can, but the first and foremost, I cannot fatten it You know, at the end of the day, we all know when they are going to be retired What is the NJC doing wrong before that end? You can still down certain persons, when they go, maximum one, two months they are replaced Man, when they retire, you wait for two years before you start talking of the group Where that judge just used to, I mean, it doesn't make sense But that is the system in which you operate And Musa, I don't also appreciate the fact that all cases will go to the Supreme Court Not all What is the NJC doing at the Supreme Court? What is the NJC doing? We do, it's not necessary You know, initially, there was once when the government said there is talks at the Court of Appeal Then it was changed Why? If you talk of the presidency, we agree Just like you have the Court of Justice, the appeal, Court of Appeal, then the Supreme Court We are very happy with that But not to go and tell me the president, that the governor should start, election, tribunal should start from high courts Of an high court It doesn't make sense All cases must get to the Supreme Court Land matter, Supreme Court NJC matters, Supreme Court How many kings do we have in this country? How many lads? Look at the land mass Everything is Supreme Court The Supreme Court Some of them will die Some of them will retire Not to want to die Most of them will be given on the bench All those cases must get to the Supreme Court Then we need to talk of replacement Another problem It takes one year, two years It's not necessary It's not necessary Okay, we leave the politics and the courts alone for now But something a little bit related Ansar's following our arts minister to review plan on 500 million naira fine for convicts Convicts of? Ansar's Yes I am not a citizen of that fact I am not Who are they called? Let's take Those who ban the protest and search Whoever has been convicted as a result of Ansar's Okay But is there a fact that Ansar said it's too much? That she reviewed the plan On the 500 million naira fine That's not good To review the plan Review of course or downwards No, no, is it said the fine is too small or too much? Okay, we need to get the details of that story Yes, we'll get the details So coalition resorts to protest lawsuit To stop purchase of 57 billion naira SUVs for lawmakers We are talking of full increase We are talking of economic achieve We are talking of a nation that is trombosing Yet they are having a Carlos National Assembly buying cars for themselves The last time we had an aqua view I was running fast with you I am ashamed of aqua view Aqua view is in disgrace Why would you say that? The first time was the show of your mic And the second time I was running to the villa To get clearance With a tinny wound To care what is done again versus care I'm highly disappointed Then they thought I was asleep When they said They were going to be giving me money And the next time I said prayers Send to the email I mean, that's the kind of system we have The days of Ocani Banco had gone We don't have the minimum The days of Kenny Manami had gone Who stopped the Thornton man gone Today the Thornton bill would have passed They would have passed if it hadn't passed That's the truth We have to look at the Senate president and senators we have there Now you want to purchase cars for yourself Disregarding the hardship that Nigerians are going through What about the cars at Hinosin? Now how do we even encourage the economy to grow? Why won't you patronize companies at Hinosin?  How do you even explain that to your driver? Who cannot afford to feed his family? Who is driving you in a 200 million Naira 400 million Naira, 50 million Naira, 80 million Naira That's why the kids are all over now Because if you don't have the same driver as me So you can prop up all of these problems All of them It's so sad It's so sad It's so sad And they come up with insidious policies I wish they had spent all that money inside Nigeria anyway What are you going to do with them? Say something stupid The old essays and peers would insult the president They would use the presidential jet But I am subsidizing That is a presidential jet But he has to pay the same tax as the private jet I am subsidizing They do not subsidize it But something must be paid That's a civilized client The song is flying the presidential jet Okay, I remember now We have no way to go We are crashing We are crashing We are crashing We are crashing I remember the story now of Faleno And the convicts of ensars The government has said that they were going to pay 500 million Naira as fine To release the ensars convicts So that they can decongest the prisons And Faleno is saying They should review this It's a laudable initiative But why not just Why not the minister Just talks to the president And the governors to Grant pardon to these people Rather than the federal government Paying 500 million Naira To free the inmates or the convicts That they themselves put in prisons There are certain things You don't need to respond to 500 million Naira to Who will account for it Do something that they can do Grant pardon There are ways to defer the system And please try to drive for them That's simple as that 5 out of 2 Why not just grant them pardon Why are you talking about 500 million Naira They might just want to stay in the zone And go away That's simple as that But then the president wants To grant them pardon to the president 5 out of 100 million Naira 2 We are coming again to another Under where it is That's what is happening now Everybody wants to grant as much as they can Grant You remember that employment saga Till today It has not been clarified How many jobs Till tomorrow It has not been clarified The same person was cleared After colonizing Because in this an appointment Was cleared by the Senate This man ran to the To get clarification Because the Senators Were opposed to it He ran there That's how he cleared The man who collapsed I think he had What we call a complication apprehension He collapsed, went to the next He had been cleared He had been cleared And then Out of our country We will get better Someday There's an editorial on the same Newspaper Guardian That is a follow-up There's an editorial on the Guardian We think palliatives step up Production, productive engagement That's an editorial on page 12 Of the Guardian Newspaper I don't know what your comments are On that It's on palliatives And they are being asked To rethink palliatives And step up productive engagement How really are we doing In the production line I talked about productive engagement If you remember I had you If you remember I talked about productive engagement I was talking about the economy Yes When you say palliatives Nothing really wrong Is a stop-up major But the unfortunate part Is In this country It is seen as one gravy train One, you don't even have the palliatives What they give to you Are what can be given To the birds in the sky That's what they give to you And number two They don't even give to you If at all you see Because most of them Are stored in their warehouses Like what happened to the city At that time But most of them Stored as they said It was meant for his birthday One of the number of persons That died before his birthday He was using government's money To celebrate his birthday He said so It was meant for his birthday So I don't even believe in the palliatives Somebody was on the sister's station Showing me Showing the world how many calls of rise For his family And once Nobody's going to come again And he said he was lucky to have His neighbor did not get A call of rise for a family of how many Maximum two days Then you say you're giving a giant palliatives What they had to give Some of the senators And national assembly members were going home with As palliatives They were pushing the effect world And you give the poor man Two calls of rise, five calls of rise Three calls of bids They were lasting for four, five days The votes Were running to trillions When tomorrow they tell you about these palliatives They will tell you the trillions They spent on palliatives Nothing comes out of it I would say we live in a country There was a country There is no country There was a country Well We still have a Nigeria, it's still standing And in the nation newspaper You know it is metaphorical In the nation newspaper The minister of the economy Seems to be very optimistic He's saying Timugu's homegrown plan Good to revive the economy I don't know if you are Aware of a homegrown plan I'm not going to do this Because when I hear such things I get infuriated You know From day one May 29 to day Tell me one policy that has ruined the economy Even though that wasn't the economy What? What is Lucifer is In the Bible He has his advocates His apostles He has his followers You see no border People will come to say Unfortunately, those of the devil In most cases I would seem to be richer And enjoy more That is the truth about it One policy I just want one policy From May 29 to day That is good Just one Are you talking of the scarcity Of employment Appointments You can't mention So what policy is You just You just write them Because You have to build a new standard And when you consider who made the statement You say okay Let me just correct you Because there is really nothing else to publish That's the truth And don't forget who wants the paper It's like a sister TV You know what I'm talking about What do you expect that TV to say And a lot of people want to wear that TV Because that is the most pertinent now The content is poor The Nigerians don't want to Who are not affiliated don't want to wear the TV Before this time Where it is one of the prime stations To watch Yes Full of lies and unnecessary difference And due porous difference So I'm not surprised When we talk about A policy that has Changed the economy or affected The economy positively We also have a headline here In the nation newspaper Saying Emergency economic bill targets tax reform Job creation others There's a bill that has been sent to the national assembly And it's going to enjoy accelerated hearing Because according to them It's going to target Tax reforms Yes A bill that has been sent to the national assembly Will enjoy accelerated hearing Because it's going to target Tax reforms And job creation And other things Will Will That's what I see That's what I see Will I will be in heaven What time And how And how So that's what I see Lagos has been known As a state with their aquatic splendor But some people have expressed concern About the reclamation of land Finally The Lagos holds illegal land reclamation In Ikoi-leki I don't know if We should applaud the government But this is only Lekki and Ikoi Or we should just say That they should do more than this Do you have an insight or a comment? Yes, let us comment The government And give them to do more Okay The demon dependent has this headline A competition slows Among banks as tech Flatten service The writer on that story is Fintech's big gainer But the main headline is that Competition has slowed down Among banks as tech-flatten service We also have other Headlines Supreme Court Hits all-time low as Justice Dati Joe retires October 27 We also have Pandav Takas-Gumi Says any Nigerian can be FCT minister And also Serab asks Court to stop reps from taking delivery Of 360 SUVs worth 57.6 billion Preservation election appeal PDP optimistic of victory At Supreme Court And finally Israel strikes Gaza, Syria, West Bank As war against Hamas threatens To ignite other Fronts Then again Agencies experts converse removal of Aviation power statels from TSA 40% deduction Which is ICAO recommendations And is strangulating Okay, so Imo Guba Imo Dioha working for Hupuz-Odema's re-election That is what PDP chieftain is saying And from Kogi comes a report That Kogi government raises their LAM over our assassination Attempt on governor Yahya Bello Those are headlines on the Dependent, I don't know which one You would like to comment on first I cannot ascertain The Veracity of public awareness Of their attempt on Yahya Bello's life I don't know I'm very sure to see this on national TV, but It's one man I can never Cross Why so? Because it does need to High blood pressure Disseptive blood pressure An anemia of cochlear performance Don't tell me there are Dispensable kinds of Mendocillopoens And when you go to your fat finding It's empty It's empty I'm going to Kogi State and see What is happening in Kogi State So, I don't know It's not somebody I take everything It says with the print of sounds That's one I don't know how to read this I cannot ascertain But it's somebody to square for A good point that will even erase that Like you said It's very It's a controversy Sorry The thing about This story is that another newspaper Is quoting Yahya Bello himself Saying that attempt On his life, the news about His attempt on his life is false And I don't know where this comes from Because I don't believe that Because I cannot ascertain You know, I started with that I cannot ascertain If he says it's false, there should be it So that's not the way to start a time on that I think we talk about the Supreme Court's Judgment The PDP's S.O.B.B.Tree Labor is S.O.B.B.Tree Now It's incumbent On the courts to do justice That's what I'll say You all wait for justice And not judgment You are not interested in judgment You are interested in justice So we have the Supreme Court To do justice What would you really call justice? Justice, when you talk of justice You are talking of merits On the merits of the case Justice is to The litigators The litigants And the general public And don't forget what you have said You said must not only be done Must not be seen to have been manifestly done And so, you know When a lot of persons With poor vitality Come on air to say The lawyer will understand this First and foremost You have litigation because Two separate lawyers disagree On an issue, so that's what So don't come on air to say It's because this lawyer understood Two lawyers were caught Because they understood a lot differently That's number one Number two The judgment is not meant For the understanding Of the lawyers at home It is meant For public understanding And that was why He said, he was said It must not only be done Must not be seen to have been manifestly done And in that very matter He did not doubt The sincerity of the churches The summary of the case There was a motorcycle accident Evolved in the car He went to court One of the clerks Was not there, the deputy was there I'm just trying to summarize it The judge's rules Went into a room Sat down The clerk followed them Who was supposed to be From the chambers of One of the plaintiffs Of one of the parties Came out He didn't even go in with the judges But he left the country And they saw him walk Through that same door the judge used All that he was seated with the judges Came back The judges gave that judgment The other party appealed And he was said The judge said No, I'm not doubting you He was not even there He was not doubting you He was not even part of the judgment But the jury was said I'm not doubting you But how do you explain that to the public They were not in there with you So how would the public know That there are no imputes in that judgment I'm just summarizing The public know I'm not doubting you But what of the public That was when we came up With that other judgment But this will be tried That's what we'll discuss Justice I'm just summarizing That is what you call justice Here they would have said Demand to an apedetist Come out and speak if you have tried it Demand did not contribute to it And you give a judgment Now you see, you uphold the judgment You have done it What of the common man How do you convince a common man That there was no contribution on that man He was not there You did it All kinds of nonsense But he was said no He said no How would others know To go back I'm not doubting you But forget me You have convinced me The public will never be convinced I don't know if you understand now We have judgment and justice I'm just trying to explain it That is justice Because the dictators and the general public They're satisfied You see the point there Yes The other one also said Meaning is not in the message Get distracted by the message user A word was spoken It's past records You can say a thing It is subject to plural interpretations And that's why they teach you To choose the right words From the word pastings So that That thing you say Will be claimed as too good By others Not the guilty You believe them for the guilty They live for interpretations Some might be right Some might be wrong Your sorry will come late And most times your sorry not accepted That's the problem here Let's look at the final headline Just the final one now And then we wrap up Federal Governors Federal Governors For a signed deal on mining operations In Nigeria We had some few days ago Where the federal government was thinking About talking with the state Governors and finding a solution To the mining problem In Nigeria And the question I was asking is When you talk mining Something like oil also Qualifies as mining When you're talking about federal government And state governors Collaborating to do To come up with a solution To this mining and Whatever they're going to do is going to be From the two parties joining forces Will that also Be for oil Because if anything is on the exclusive Leaves Everything else should be on the exclusive leaves If it is Without if They considered oil So why not? Is it not a natural resource? Because That's the issue Of the effective commission I'm talking about I don't think that they consider Oil I don't also think that they see The issue of oil as mining They will tell you exploration I don't think they consider They are looking at Things like gold And so on Because you know the case of gold In the north And the saga surrounding it And all to the involvement Of the CBN And so on So I think that's what they're looking at I don't think they are talking about oil But like Renny said They should have considered it But they believe that the oil issue is settled But other mining resources Other oil resources To have less other resources I don't think they are considering oil I might be wrong But I sincerely don't think they are considering oil So if they don't consider oil Will that be fair? Because there are some states that only have oil They don't have gold That shouldn't be our problem The issue of oil Has been addressed to some level That is one Number two If they are going to harness Our resources With a view To Getting Foreign reserve, foreign currencies I don't have a problem My major thing they ask to do with our economy Anything that will boost their economy If we have the oil saga We have the oil problem We are going to address the oil problem So if they address the oil problem separately And provide the end result To boost our economy It is okay It is okay That's nice That's the much we can take today On our press We've had a marathon one today On this segment of the program Thank you so much for your time Thank you Thank you We've been talking with Opunabo in Kottaria First Analyst who talked with us From Port Harcourt, the river state capital We'll take a short break and when we return We'll say our goodbyes Stay with us


No Cold War, Pivot to Peace, Show Up America and World Beyond War. This coalition continues to grow and we're happy that you were able to join us today. And this weekend, many of our community joined over a thousand people in the streets of Oakland, masked up and safe to rise for peace and response to the violence against the Chinese population there. It was a beautiful gathering, and yet antagonism towards China continues out of the White House. The first casualty of this US war on China is violence against Asians in the United States. Another casualty is the truth. And you know, we have our action towards PBS that you can join. Angela will post it in the chat, but PBS is censoring a film that they funded about how China took its people out of extreme poverty by award-winning director Peter Getzels. And it's being censored. It was not censored or affected by any way by the Chinese government. So we hope you can act on that one. We really want to raise that up because it's so crazy. And as people have been able to watch the film, our last interview was with Peter and he's made it available. You see that it's the most straightforward educational film, what a documentary should be, that he went in with a question, wow, how did they do this? How do you take people out of poverty? And he got answers. Maybe they're not answers that people like, maybe they don't make you feel good, but he got real answers that, you know, well, somebody did this and this is how it has to happen. And it was not, and now we're kind of impoverished by the information if we live in the United States. So hope you'll act on that one. So, you know, we continue to find as we talk to activists and our organizers in the streets that there's a lot of confusion about China. And so I reached out to my brilliant friend who I have often been in the streets with against war, Chris Hedges, to join us today to talk about propaganda that leads us to war. Chris is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, a Presbyterian minister, a journalist, an author, a television host. He's written many, many books on the state of the world, but my two favorite are war is a force that gives us meaning and what every person should know about war. These he wrote after nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans. He's seen war up close and very personal. Welcome, Chris. Thank you for joining me. Thanks, Jody. So can we start by talking about, you know, what you've seen around the US war on China and your concerns just Well, we do have an enemy, but to quote Carl Leibnick it's the enemy within. It's the military industrial complex that has no restraint, no control, no regulation. It used to be that under the old Democratic Party they would at least challenge certain weapons systems. They do not anymore. Trump got more money than they even asked for. And any society that allows a military to grow that powerful economically and politically, inevitably lurches towards catastrophe and go read Barbara Tuckman's The Proud Tower on the start of World War one, where in particular was German militarism in particular, led by the Kaiser that just precipitated a war that should have never been fought and ended up in suicidal folly for France, Britain, and Germany itself. So, why is an out of control military so dangerous. If you come out of the military culture, you are historically culturally and usually linguistically illiterate, you believe in the myth of whatever civilization, whether it's German chauvinism and World War one or American exceptionalism. And that chauvinism that sense of exceptionalism. The flip side of that is racism. It's about the denigration of the other. I just actually reread Edward Said's Orientalism which is precisely about that it is, it is about in order to create the mythology of whiteness Du Bois writes about this Baldwin writes about this which is also of course, a myth.  These are completely fictitious and that and then you set these virtues against the other. You're not much part of the military culture because in order to kill. You must dehumanize. You must look at the other not as somebody who has your capacity for empathy who you turn them into an object. And so, the military culture is one that is designed to speak exclusively in the language of force you you don't communicate any other way. You communicate through violence and because there's been no control and because we've eviscerated our diplomatic institutions and when I even when I was overseas. 40% of the embassy was military intelligence and half the time the ambassador didn't know what the CIA station chief was doing. Go back and read. I'm going to answer or the devil's chessboard by David Talbot to see, you know, what these intelligence service what this military kind of intelligence industrial complex is about. It is one that has not just now but through ever since World War two engaged in torture. Extraordinary rendition kidnapping this happened under Dulles Alan Dulles immediately in the immediate aftermath of World War two. It's not an intelligence gathering service as such. It seeks to overthrow governments are bends and water in Guatemala, or most today in Iran. Kinoshay and chili etc etc. So what we have kind of been asleep at the switch on is this military complex with tremendous resources has created a ring around China the same way they have with Russia. Imagine if we had, you know, the Chinese fleet off the coast of California, or if we had nuclear missiles stationed, you know, within close proximity of the border of the United States. So if you look at the map but john Pilger did a pretty good film on this a few years ago, called the coming war with China but if you just look at the map, whether it's Okinawa or outside of Australia or the Marshall Islands. And what they have done is create a kind of giant rat trap, so that if there was a war they can shut down the shipping lanes, and, of course, have a nuclear capacity to obliterate China, but let's be clear though I mean any nuclear war is not going to just obliterate all of us. Most scientists say that it would create a kind of massive kind of black cloud that would the entire earth would be covered in ice for one or two years I mean it's the end of human existence and and the existence of most other life forms not that of course we're slowly getting there, not even slowly anymore But you know societies that can't control their military live deeply to regret it. And so that ethos that dehumanization that celebration of fictitious virtues of the white race or whatever imperial race. It is your blessing, which is usually white is one by the lens by which they look at the entire world. They don't know anything about China that you know nationalists always look at other people and see themselves. They see their own lust for violence they see their own prejudices I mean, you know I had famous kind of battles with Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris after 911. So I mean here you I spent seven years in the Middle East. I was the Middle East bureau chief for the New York Times I'm an Arabic speaker. These people don't know anything about the Middle East they don't but they don't believe they need to know anything about the Middle East they don't. And this is what's happening with China, also Russia I mean we the difference is China is a harder target because there's so much manufacturing in China. That doesn't mean that you know we won't the military, which has no restraints. It won't be led into a conflict which I pray to God won't happen. Russia is an easier target I mean militarily compared to the United States. You know Russia is the Alabama National Guard I mean Russia just didn't even have a military of any potency. But the United States encroachment on China is parallels the encroachment on Russia I mean the whole crime issue is really centered around the fact that the United States wanted to establish a base, a naval base in the crime and control the black sea with things we would permit to happen in our own geographical proximity so the fact that the military is so awash in funding and is so unaccountable. And because of the nature of the military itself. The United States military has become a phenomenally dangerous entity, not only the global world peace but to American democracy itself, and the Biden administration isn't going to take on the at this point the defense contractor I think we have 20 years in the Middle East of endless war, which have been a complete catastrophe of certainly first and foremost to the people in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya and everywhere else. But it's just been an utter failure I mean it is.  The cruise missile I believe costs about a million dollars so you know let's drop how many cruise missiles did we drop on Libya. Quite a few, and then they make more. I mean that's, there's no, there's no rationale to continue these conflicts, except that war is a business, they make a lot of money. So yes, I think you're, you're right to, and I worry about it because you don't want foreign policy left in the hands of, of generals, and because they will, they will do what they're trained to do and that is issue closer and closer to a conflict even if that conflict is suicide. That was awesome, because it's so hard to do this work when you're looking at, I call it barbarism of, of the military, and we pretend to be civilized. But when you think about a drone strike in the middle of Pakistan, killing you know hundreds of innocent people. That's barbarianism. I mean, and we say that's the word that we use to describe them. But when we were in Pakistan and met with some of the drone victims. They said, we said, if you had a drone, what would you do when you could fly over the United States and they said, nothing, because it would kill innocent people. But we don't see people as innocent, we just see them as transactional needs to our greed. I think there's this problem. It's like my, my last question to you is, why do people believe these lies, the drivers to war, even in the face of losing the Korean War, losing the Vietnam War, and losing, you know, five trillion dollars and how many lives in your lifetime in, you know, the Middle East. Why would we, why would believe more lies. It's self celebration. I mean, if you look at 911. It was a celebration of us. And our power, and especially in given the breakdown and decay within American society, suddenly you're all united. It's a kind of false camaraderie, but you're all one in this great battle. But when I was very vocal about my, my calls not to support the invasion of Iraq.  Why? It's because I was challenging a self identification. I was challenging that whole existential notion of us as a virtuous, great, powerful people that a lot of alienated people who had been discarded by capitalism needed and imbibed to give themselves a kind of sense worth and a sense of belonging. So that's why, and it always works. And it, you know, it's there's a good book by Samuel Heinz who was Marine Corps pilot in the South Pacific and World War two and then went on to teach literature at Princeton he was actually my neighbor, just down the street. We lost him a little while ago, called a soldier's tale and it talks about that trajectory, of course, I mean war is always about betrayal, betrayal of the young by the old betrayal of soldiers by politicians. But it works. And it works, especially for people who are disenfranchised my own family comes from Maine lower working class. They were all in the military, all including my grandfather and my uncle who fought in the South Pacific and was destroyed by the war. So, but every generation, especially when you come out and we have to remember the military because there's no draft. These middle class kids upper middle class kids, they don't go into the military. I mean these, these elite schools of Princeton's down the street I've taught at Princeton, they're not going to the military. I will get out to some of these community colleges that I speak to I was at in northern Minnesota. I forget the name of it Manitoba State or something, but the professors were telling me that the military has the ability to come in and get the transcripts of the students, and they know who's going to flunk out in real time and they show up at their door. And of course in that area there's a lot of indigenous, a lot of native Americans and they're sucked right into the military machine. So, what you're by the reason it works is because it's a self exaltation very sick self exaltation by the society, and it is effective, particularly with those people who feel alienated and vulnerable within that society, and they will react to you with a kind of violence, when you challenge that because for many of them at that moment that's kind of all they have. Whoa. So, also, you know, we just watched what happened on January six and you talk about that, you know the poison side. I mean, that's fueled by the military, because a lot of you look at the leaders and a lot of people were there. That those are people that have been to war. Yeah, well you go to war you get damaged all of us, I can carry a gun but I got damaged like anybody who spent a lot of time around that industrial violence for prolonged periods of time. Yeah, of course I mean there are a lot of those people are damaged I teach in a prison how many prison guards, most are huge percentage of the prison corrections officers were in Iraq and Afghanistan. Of course, it's a great job if you come back filled with PTSD and a loss for sadism. It's you'll probably get promoted. Same thing with law enforcement. So, yeah, you are creating a damaged underclass that gets sucked into the those positions whether it's the police or the prison system, where they do the dirty work for empire internally right there were a lot of those people were vets I mean it was fascinating especially watching the when they breached when they all lined up and they were wearing Kevlar equipment. And they clearly had been trained they knew exactly what they were doing. And that is some because when they come back, of course they're thrown right back into the same. You know they're there, they're there, despite all the rhetoric. And this always been true with war. I mean, so they go right back into these decay communities where there are no real jobs. That's why the suicide rates are so high.   You can only bond with your own. And there's a, you know, we saw this after Vietnam. And there is a legitimate kind of rage you've suffered trauma. And yes, I think that on the two things that I saw on the sixth or one, you're very right that there clearly was a significant number of people who had been within the military but also of the connecting tissue with all of these groups was Christian fascism which I've written a lot about. So what about the propaganda that drives the electorate to the war that makes war okay or makes all this money that goes to military okay I mean for me, you know why did I start trying to not our enemies all the same I was like, this feels like pre Iraq all over again. There's all these lies, they're proliferating I see them everywhere. They don't make sense. You know it's like why would somebody say that it doesn't even make sense or this person's never been to China or it's trying to pull the heart string around human rights but it's not about human rights if you cared about human rights you wouldn't let Palestinians you wouldn't fund Israel to imprison Palestinians or you wouldn't be letting Saudi Arabia bomb Yemeni. I mean I care about human rights. I know what that looks like. And if you're driving to war the first casualty of war is human rights so this doesn't even make sense.  It reminds me a little bit about being in Brazil. When Bolsonaro was running and I saw the ads on on WhatsApp, and I felt my brain flip like it couldn't vote for the other guy because you don't know you reach this doubt place. And I feel like, you know, is that what it does is it puts us in doubt, and therefore it puts us in fear, and therefore we're going to say okay more another trillion dollars to make more nuclear weapons because we have to fight China. One, it fills an emotional void. So in that effect doesn't have to make sense of course it doesn't make sense. You know it's always irrational but we don't live in a Cartesian world unless you're known Chomsky who I love I'm not in any way slamming know me is our greatest intellectual. So, that's number one. And number two you're right fear fear is the key. And any despotic society we live in one has to use fear to keep the populace in check.  It was code orange or code who knows code pink. I don't know. It didn't happen. I mean it didn't happen. And then remember they were supposed to storm all the state capitals and everybody. So it's just, you know that it's a perpetuation of fear, because it justifies. I mean this is the whole Biden was instrumental in this the whole expansion the militarization of police expansion of the prison system to obscene levels 25% of the world's prison population United States. And based on fear super predators and crack killers and you know it was all fictitious but it was fear. And now they're using fear of of the right wing fear of Russia fear of China they don't, they don't really care it's never rational. And it's to issue issues it fills that emotional void us as powerful great Americans, imposing our virtues on others by force look that it and everybody becomes susceptible I mean the, I was teaching at Princeton. During the calls to invade Afghanistan, and all those quote unquote liberal professors were buying this garbage about sending the hundred first airborne to Afghanistan to liberate women. And I kept saying, I was the only one who watched these weapons systems I said I'm sorry, you know what's your fire 155 how it serves are using hellfire missiles. You can't talk to me about human rights.  But they didn't hear it. I mean they could not hear it.  When Hitler invaded France and Poland, you know started World War two I think there were something like 40 full professors of history in the German University they all signed a letter saying that these other countries were aggressors against Germany I mean, so it doesn't matter your educational level again this is this is an emotional seduction. In some ways the intellectuals are worse because they're kind of out on the fringes of society and suddenly. Like if they're I mean Michael Ignatie of a hitchhens all these people I was battling 20 years ago when we started the war in Iraq, they were certainly bright capable thoughtful people but they, they, they carried the banner for Paul Wolfowitz and all these other roles that got us into the war. And, you know, emotional, that emotional susceptibility doesn't exclude the intellectual class. So, yeah, I think it's those two things it is the emotional seduction and then it is the very careful orchestration of fear, and most people, you know Americans in other languages they, they, they are not well versed the way Europeans are in other cultures in China is very easily character character, you know becomes a character choice very easy to turn it into a character chore. The same thing with Russia, of course, but you know why is NATO expanded up to the border of Russia well because all of those former and we had of course promised Gorbachev that we would not extend NATO beyond the borders of Germany we we totally was total on the part of the United States. Why because it's billions and billions and billions of dollars in arms equipment I was in Warsaw. A while ago, I got in the airport there was a giant billboard of saying from Raytheon Raytheon working with the people of Poland or something like this. Yeah, so it's, it's, it's, it's a way to make money. It's these is the merchants of death and and we can't control them we don't control them anymore. And that that's why it's so dangerous. Well, and the interesting thing is they're about control, but they can that they they think war can control something which wars the opposite it's, it's full on chaos, and they failed at that constantly but they keep in their minds thinking they're going to get troll something in the war. And so, Chris that was very sad because I'm like what do what, what do you say to an activist that's being targeted by the State Department, the left and the progressives are being targeted by the State Department to be the people that drive us to war with China. They drove us to war with Iraq, Jody, I mean, you know the, the liberals couldn't sign on for the war in Iraq fast enough. And so you and I and a few of us were out there but I was being attacked by name, you know by George Packer, you know people like this. So liberals, I'm talking progressives and left, I'm talking that they are trying to get in hooked in to create some form of racism they're working in black communities they're working in in Latin communities, China's your enemy it's taking your jobs it's you know like, no China did not take your jobs general motors took your jobs. But you know like, you know it's just, but it gets in there it's like, well they've you know they're destroying America because. And so it's, it's, it's really like people that's the, not the people that you would think that would be driving you to war because they're getting in there with stories of human rights abuses and to bet. And, and, you know, here's this hook I'm going to use, and you could change you could save the Tibetan people by like going to war with China, like such an outrageous concept. I don't even know, you know, but that is classic propaganda. I mean, and it works. You protect yourself from propaganda.  I mean, I'm not on I have, I am not on social media. I don't have a Facebook, somebody runs a Twitter account I think somebody might even run a Facebook account for me. I can't see it I'm not on it. I mean, you know that social media is very pernicious I mean no man's right about this. We have to remain rooted in. I mean the thing about America is that you can find the information in a print in print. But then worry about it because no one reads anymore. So it's there. And, and, and a social media plays very effectively on those constant dopamine hits. The images were very powerful manipulated images. So, I would say the first thing is sever yourself as much as possible from social media and inform yourself, educate yourself, actually studied Mandarin, not. I was the worst Mandarin student. My Mandarin teacher said that I spoke no tone Mandarin, Mandarin has poor tones. Normally. I tried. I was also a problem because my wife is she's from Canada, but her parents are from Hong Kong goes she speaks Cantonese so I was in a room with someone who spoke fluent Cantonese somebody so I really humbling humbling would be maybe humiliating would be a better word. But I did try for several months. You know, you, you must reach out as much as possible I speak other languages obviously it's, you know, we must be in the power, especially for an American of learning to speak another language well, is that when you speak that language, you have the ability to step into another culture and look back at your own culture. And that's key. In terms of understanding who we are. We're able to see ourselves from the other I mean as an Arabic speaker who spent a lot of time in Gaza. I began to be able to see and I spent six years in Latin America. I began to see who we were as a people. And, and unfortunately that linguistic and cultural illiteracy plays into the hands of the propagandists completely. I suppose I'm in some dark way they want us to remain that way, because we're more easily manipulated. Well that's why they destroyed the education system. So, okay.  And so we have to divest ourselves because we ourselves are sucking at the tit of the war economy culture and we don't know it thinking that it's life when it's destroying everything. So, um, okay so see fear and educate instead, and, and step outside of the madness of what it is to be in the United States of America that's always double speak right understand that we do have an enemy, and it's called the Pentagon. Okay. The, the most destructive force to not only global peace but American democracy. Leibniz was right about that. Leibniz said that at the on the eve of World War one. The German military will destroy this country, which it did.  And, and perhaps even the very planet that gives us life. Wow. Thank you I want to end there because I think you know what we're doing a code pink is really to remind everyone that war is never the answer. Yeah. And that you know, last night we were with Barbara Lee and Marco can who've created a congressional committee to work on defunding the Pentagon. And we all need to be standing behind that because China's not our enemy and we have to pull the pants down at the Pentagon, so people can see it for what it is and how dangerous it is to life on the planet, which is what Chris just said. So Chris thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for all you think about and care about and share, and for giving us so much to read. We're going to develop the reading list out of this so we can. All right. Thank you so much. Thanks for joining us today please see all the links in the chat and engage at code pink slash China. Peace on words.


I'm sure it's awesome. If it seems to be the raised Christ from the dead, these are the dwelling news of vitalizing your motor body, it seems strange. It seems strange. Even God will not do this kind of miracle. Because it's also in the Bible that when you work, you need to rest. Even God, when he was creating heaven and on the seventh day, he rested. Why is it on the seventh day? It's on the seventh day. So even Maya, working in Malawi on the 11th day, he needs to rest. The rest of the seventh day already. You had your meet and greet. Even now I'm maybe more tired. Because I have to talk to everybody. Just today, I finished, I say hello to this person, then I continue. Then I continue. God, that was tough.