All right, welcome, everyone, to today's Google Webmaster Central Office Hours Hangout. My name is John Mueller. I'm a Webmaster Trends Analyst here at Google in Switzerland. And part of what we do are these office hour hangouts, together with webmasters, STOs, folks who make great websites. And part of what we try to do is answer any kind of questions that come up with regards to websites and web search in particular.  But as always, if any of you have a question to start off with, feel free to jump on in now. Hi, John. Hi. Actually, I was searching something. And I came across that New Zealand and the UK I'm getting results from those business in the mobile version. OK. And you're not from the UK or? I'm from India. OK. So why am I getting those business? That can be normal, too. It kind of depends on your search settings and on what you're searching for. Sometimes local search results are valid in other countries as well. So it's not necessarily the case that I'd say that's wrong or something is broken. That can definitely happen, that you search for something and the best result is something that's from a company in a different country. But I'm searching for the location of the DL driving license. And it was from the New York and the UK side. That's why I'm asking. That sounds kind of suboptimal, yeah. So what I would do there is submit feedback in the search results. On the bottom of the search results page, you can always submit feedback. And that goes to our team that reviews this feedback and tries to figure out what went wrong with these individual searches. So that's usually the best approach there. I mean, it can also be other things such as us perhaps recognizing your IP address wrong or things like that. But if this is a one-off search that you do and you see results that don't work at all for you, then I would definitely use the feedback form. OK, fine. I will do that. Sure. All right. What else is on your minds? I could ask a question if nobody else has any questions to ask. Uh-oh. OK. I don't have to. I could just not ask questions. What's up, Ariel? All right, so I wrote about Google buying links. And obviously, Google has no intent of manipulating their own search results. So obviously, the whole concept of Google buying links to manipulate their own search results to rank for their own name is kind of ridiculous. But in the past, Google has penalized themselves for buying links unintentionally or intentionally or whatever the purpose might have been just to say, hey, we also could make mistakes. We also have to abide by our own guidelines. And we're going to go ahead and prove a point here. The past two times, Google has done it. They haven't really commented on it. And I'm just curious. I know I'm sure you guys have talked about it behind the scenes with not copying me on emails by accident about what's going on. So I'm just curious. Is there a reason why you're not commenting about this case? I mean, obviously, you might want to say, well, in this case, there's obviously no intent for it. Previously, you wanted to make an example. I mean, what's the feeling about this outside of why is Barry covering this and why is Barry giving me a hard time? I don't know what the web spam team in particular is looking at there. But one thing that is a bit different than a couple years ago is that there are things like the disavow file where you can explicitly say I don't want these links to be taken into account. So those are things that might always be playing in where essentially the link is there, but there's no signals being passed, and that's kind of taken care of that way. So those are things that, at least from the initial cases I remember, that wasn't available back then. OK, so it's more about Google better understanding those links and obviously not even passing the whole concept of disavowing or devaluing versus demoting with a new Penguin algorithm kind of plays into effect here where Google's not even looking at these links and they're not even benefiting Google, so you might not have to go ahead and penalize it anyway. So that's maybe the only difference between now and then. I don't know the specifics of what the web spam team has done there or what the people that bought this link or that did this, I think, as a sponsorship or a donation or something like that, what was happening there. But that's definitely a difference there. And a lot of these things are things that sites essentially can clean up on their own without doing a press release about it. So that's kind of my take there. Thank you. All right. So let's see. Hello. Hi. I have a question. I already posted it on Google+. But I already did here. If a website have a decleaning server in traffic, in place, and the progressive day index session following first quarter of 2017 because Google updates, how much time will it take until we can see enhancements if problems were resolved? Because we wait. Was it a indexing problem or is it a ranking problem? Ranking problem. Ranking problem. So generally speaking, we reprocess sites regularly. So that's something that happens on a per URL basis, meaning some URLs get reprocessed a lot faster, maybe several times a day. Some URLs take a little bit longer, a couple of days. Some of them take quite a long time, like a couple of months. And depending on the website and what kind of URLs are there, if you make bigger changes across the website, then that can take a bit of time to be reprocessed completely. So it's not the case that we have to understand the whole website again. But rather that step by step, as we understand the changes on your website, we can take that into account when it comes to indexing. Yes, there are tens of millions of pages. We need to wait. So that's not something where we have a fixed time, where we say after one month you will see this change, but it really can take quite a bit of time. One of the things we can look at into doing, especially with a really large website, is to think about what you can do to simplify crawling. So a lot of times with large websites in particular, we run into so many different URL variations that to crawl 1 million unique URLs with content, we have to crawl maybe 10 million or 20, 50 million URLs to kind of go through all of these duplications. So the easier you can make it that we crawl only the URLs that you kind of care about, the ones that are important for your website, the faster we can get through a lot of that. So things like using clean URLs on the website with internal links, using canonicalization methods, rel canonical, redirects, site profiles, using the same URLs everywhere, all of those things kind of make it a little bit easier for us to catch them. Thank you. Sure. All right, let me grab some that were submitted. So the first one, I don't have a good answer. I think I need to double check some things there. Glenn is asking about PDFs, the links in PDFs. I need to double check some things there, because it seems that there's some kind of conflicting information out there. And it would be good to double check the current status rather than just focus on things as they were in 2011 or on the way that I think they are now. So I'll double check on that and see if I can have something for you for the next Hangout. What is it? I think on Friday. So if you want to submit that again on Friday, I probably will have a better answer. Another question from Glenn here is, now that Chrome is taking action against sites violating the BetterEd standard, will that become a search ranking factor as well? So as far as I know, at the moment, this is really something only with regards to Chrome and from usability part of you, where if we recognize that sites violate the standard the way that it's defined, then that's something where Chrome might choose to not show any ads for them. So that's specifically with regards to Chrome. I'm not aware of anything that's essentially taking that same BetterEd standard and applying that to its web search, though obviously there are some of our algorithms that have similar things. So if above the goal, there's actually no useful content, there's just all one big ad, and that might be something where we take action. Or if on mobile, we've been official rather than the actual content, that might be something that another algorithm might take action. So it's not the case that these kind of issues on a website are completely isolated from search, but rather we just don't kind of one to one take these BetterEd standards into account with regards to search, at least at the moment. And I don't know if we'll change over time. I don't know how these standards will evolve over time. So that's something where we can't look into the future for you. But at least at the moment, that's OK. Can a service review only ever be used on one page or can it be shared on multiple pages relating to the same branch? I ask this as we have reviews for particular branches, and these are marked up. However, we also have some pages that are kind of general. We mark that up too. So in general, the structured data on a website or on a page should be specific to that particular page. It shouldn't be something where you kind of say, well, this is a review for business in general, and therefore we'll put it on all of the pages on a website, but rather it should be really specific to the primary topic of that page. So from that point of view, I generally shy away from kind of mixing and matching your views and trying to put together a set of aggregated reviews that are based on what you'd like to have shown on a website. So it shouldn't be like a testimonial that should actually be reviews. So from that point of view, I try to shy away from kind of mixing and matching and picking out individual things that might be seen as something problematic from the website. But what you could do is also post in the Webmaster Health Forum and get other people who are in similar situations and see how they implemented this kind of situation. And maybe there are some ideas there that let you kind of handle this in a more elegant way. And in our e-commerce site, we have a few categories. And with these, we have subcategories, and we have subcategories that we've never sold any products from. Is there any harm if we change these category pages to index no follow so that we can concentrate the link flow going to the main categories that actually do the work for us? From my point of view, you can do that. I suspect you won't see any visible change within a reasonably sized website. If you just change individual pages to index no follow, I suspect that's not something where you'd see any measurable effect on the website. It's probably a little bit different if you have a really, really large website with millions and millions of pages, and you recognize that some parts of your website are essentially crawler traps where the crawler kind of digs in and tries to get millions of other URLs. And actually, none of these URLs are relevant at all. Then that's something where you might say, OK, no follow from here on down just so that Googlebot doesn't get stuck in these kind of endless corridors within your website. But if these are just individual categories that you're trying to kind of optimize a little bit, then I suspect your time is better spent on other things rather than to tweak kind of the no follow tag on some of these links. Does link equity only flow downwards on a website, or can it also flow upwards? That's an interesting question. In general, the signals that we get and that we can pass on through links, they go through the links on a page. And a lot of pages have links to kind of higher-level pages. A lot of pages have links to lower-level pages. And the signals that we get, the signals that we forward, they go through all of them. So essentially, the signals that we have, four links, they go any direction in which you have links. And from that point of view, of course, they can flow upwards as well. If I have two internal links on the same page and they're going to the same destination page, but with different anchor text, how does Google treat that? So from our side, this isn't something that we have defined, where we say it's always like this, always like the first link, always the last link, always an average of the links, or something like that. But rather, that's something that our algorithms might choose to do one way or the other. So my recommendation there would be not to worry too much about this if you have different links going to the same page. That's completely normal. That's something that we have to deal with. We have to understand the anchor text to better understand the context of that link. And that's completely normal. So that's not something I worry about there. I know some people do SEO experiments and try to figure this out and work out, oh, Google currently does it like this. But from our point of view, that can change. And it's not something that we have. So even if you matter to figure out how we currently do it today, then that's not necessarily how we'll do it tomorrow, or how it always is across all websites. We changed our website three years ago. We're going to say, why? So we can still see into the control that Google has crawled the old redundant pages, even though they're for 10 pages. Why do they still appear? Should we put them in the robots text file? Is there like crawler time wasted on this? So from our point of view, if we know that pages used to exist, we will occasionally check them again. So that's probably what you're seeing here. We understand that these are 404 or 410 pages, or at least shouldn't be indexed, but we know about those URLs. And every now and then when we think, oh, we have nothing better to do on this website, we'll go off and double check those URLs. And if we check those URLs and see a server error or kind of a page not found error here, then that's something we'll tell you about in Search Console. And you can look at that and say, oh, yeah, I know about this. I removed those on purpose, and that's fine. So it's not something you need to block from crawling. It's not something you need to worry about. It's not that we're kind of losing crawl capacity by looking at those URLs. It's essentially a sign from us that we have enough capacity to crawl more URLs on your website, more just like double checking some of the old ones just in case you managed to put something back out there. Can it be more beneficial from an SEO point of view if you have some links to your category pages at the top of the page, as opposed to being in the navigation? Is there any benefit to either way? Surely from an SEO point of view, there is no difference for us. So that's something where you can really focus on usability and think about what works best for your users. If you're not sure what works best for users, you can also test that. From our point of view, we use these links to discover the different pages on your website to better understand the context of those pages within your website. So if we can find them at the top or at the bottom or in the middle somewhere, that's all perfectly fine for us. Question about Google for jobs. We're running a job site, and we included the proper markup. Now we're seeing the number of job postings in Search Console most of the time being significantly lower than the number of live jobs. At the same time, we're seeing a larger number of errors reported in the index coverage report labeled submitted but marked no index. We believe the issue here is crawl speed. Essentially, Googlebot seems to only fetch a few new detailed pages once they go offline again. Is there anything we can do to fix that? So that's essentially the same thing that you can do across any site with regards to getting new content index as quickly as possible. So there are two main aspects that kind of play into there. Actually, three. On the one hand, the server capacity, as we can perceive it. So how fast is your server? How fast does it respond to requests? Does it slow down when we ask a lot of requests? Does it serve server errors if we get a lot of requests? And as you can imagine, we don't want to cause any problems on your server. So if we see that our crawling kind of has an effect on your web server, then we'll back up and try to crawl a little bit less. So that can result in us crawling less on a website overall or crawling a bit slower just to kind of stay on the safe side. If you know that your server can handle a lot more, then that's something where you can go into Search Console. And I believe in the Help Center, there's a way of submitting feedback about Googlebot where you can say, well, Googlebot is crawling me this many times a day and you can crawl me, I don't know, five, five times a second if you want. My server can take it. And the Googlebot engineers will take that and kind of double check that that's reasonable and adjust that for Googlebot crawling. So that doesn't mean that we'll necessarily crawl that much, but it might change how much we would crawl at maximum. And how much we would actually crawl on a website is also dependent on how important we think that a website is or important that these pages are within the website. So the more we can recognize that this is actually really good content and we should really get to this a lot faster, the more we'll try to crawl it faster. So we'll still be limited by what we think your server has a capacity limit. But at least we'll be able to get up to that limit as much as possible if we think that this is actually a good site. And the last one, which is probably the easiest one to take into account, is we need to know about these new URLs as quickly as possible. So one way to do that is to ping the sitemap file for us once you've made any change there. And within the sitemap file, specify the URL and the last modification date of the pages. And if we recognize that the URL has a new or URL is new or has a new or last modification date, we'll try to crawl that as quickly as we can. And that's kind of the best way to get this content to us as quickly as possible. So I hope there was something in there that was kind of new for you or useful in that regard. If not, I also recommend maybe starting a thread on the help form with the URL of your site so that others can take a quick look to see if there's nothing really kind of blocking the site from being called as quickly as we possibly can. Let's see. A couple of questions combined. Unfortunately, celebrities, personal photos get hacked and leaked. And when my site reports on it, we have to use the word like make a photo. Or if there was an actor arrested for a child porn, I appreciate that some of these are banned words in gray areas, but how can reporters work within these parameters? So I suspect this is mostly around being a safe search where we try to recognize which URLs are kind of relevant to show, to a general audience, which ones we only show from a safe search kind of stable. From my point of view, I don't know if there's an easy way to kind of get around that to say, well, I'm using all of these adult content type words, but actually my site isn't about adult content. I suspect that's something that's really hard for algorithms to kind of do. So that's probably something where I would expect at least art algorithms or maybe search algorithms in general to have hard time there. What might help is the feedback on individual theories. You see things going really wrong or kind of you see results that are really irrelevant to some of these theories. And what might also help is to sort of read and help out the details that you're seeing there, which pages on your site will be relevant to some of these theories and maybe why, and maybe bring some suggestions on what we should be showing. So these are things that are definitely evolving not that we say we finished everything around safe search and nothing is changing anymore, but these are, I'd say, really hard problems. And that's something that I can imagine there's no absolute answer either way. One of the prominent themes from the last AMPCon was to stop thinking about AMP as mobile only. Will Google be looking to feature or test AMP cards on desktop at some point in the future? I don't know about the future. I don't know if we'll show cards for AMP in the future, but you can definitely make desktop-friendly websites with AMP as well. AMP is essentially a responsive design framework that you can use for all kinds of content. For example, the AMP documentation is all on AMP pages. And you can look at this on desktop. It shows up in the normal desktop search results as well. It's essentially kind of a website design framework that you can use for all kinds of different aspects. I don't know which of these will result in features being shown in the search results, but I primarily look at it kind of as a framework and think about, does it make sense for your site or does it not make sense for your site? And if it makes sense, then maybe try things out. So AMP is something that you can use on a per-url basis. You can easily just try out individual things and see how that goes. And if that works for you, expand that. If you run into problems, you can kind of reduce that or you can go to GitHub and post about some of these issues that you run into, all of that is possible. Let's see, question in the chat as well. Does AMP stories with no canonical tag technically considered as duplicate content? I don't know. I haven't actually looked into that, how that's set up in particular. So it's hard to say. If you're providing the same content in different formats then by using the kind of real alternate setup or the real AMP HTML, real canonical accommodation, then we understand that these two pages are kind of related and that we can pick one of these to show in the search results. But if you're specifically asking about it without the canonical tag, I suspect you are running into a situation that those aren't technically valid AMPs anymore because it's not like a self-canonical AMP page or you run into a situation that we see these as essentially two separate URLs with the same content on them. But I don't know the specifics of AMP stories and it's hard for me to kind of make a judgment call about that in general. Let's see, another question. If in such console, the number of pages showing structured data doesn't match those indexes is that an issue? I think that's a bit confusing in Search Console in the sense that we try to show a sample of the, or a relevant sample of the pages that we find there. It's not meant to be a comprehensive absolute number and that does make it a bit tricky when you're comparing the absolute numbers and you see, well, index status says there are 5 million pages indexed and the structured data report says there are 100,000 pages that have structured data but all of my pages have structured data. It's like, what is happening here? I think that's something that the team is definitely looking into to see what we can do to make that a little bit more consistent or a little bit easier to kind of digest with regards to what's actually happening there. What I would do in the meantime, though, is use those reports to recognize errors. So if you see issues in one of those reports and those are really issues that we run across, if everything is just okay, then probably things just are working fine. Can I ask a question about the Google Search Console? All right. There's a lot of confusion about, let me just see it, it probably drives you crazy about the beta, or I don't even know what it's called, the beta anymore, that it's basically not including all the features that people are using the old version. Obviously not going to produce a roadmap but I assume you know what you're going to be porting, like the fetch is Google and I don't know, certain types of links were ported and stuff like that. Are there any, any way that you guys could be a little more transparent about what is going to be moved and maybe what you for sure know is not going to be moved over so that people could prepare or maybe other tool makers can make their own tools around that? I guess it's specifically about what won't be moved in that case to kind of make it easier for other people to create something that replaces it. I don't know. That's an interesting question. That's something that we can definitely look into. I think they added a link to a forum recently where they're collecting feedback on what people actually want within the new Search Console. So that's probably a useful way to figure out what people don't care about at all. But it's also tricky in the sense that sometimes people want something that, from our point of view, doesn't make so much sense, like the old Keywords Report, where, from our point of view, that's something that was more misleading than actually useful. But still, a lot of people thought that was really interesting to look at. So that's tricky. Offhand, I don't know of anything that would be removed because we try to clean things up as we move along. What would probably happen is that some things get combined, like the Structure Data Report, the Rich Cards Report, and now the Rich Results Report. They're all kind of focusing on the same things. And some of them even use old names. So I could imagine at some point, it makes sense to take all of that and just make one clean report out of that rather than three or four individual ones. But otherwise, I'm not aware of anything that we would drop completely. I don't know. What are your thoughts? What should we remove completely? And kind of hand off to third-party tool developers. I'm just curious if there are any features that you are aware of that you guys are removing completely. And it sounds like you're not. I know people do want the toolbar page ranks for back in the show. Outside of that, I don't think there's anything specifically that you should remove. Honestly, the Keywords Report, I thought was useful in terms of detecting spam with hacked content on your site pretty quickly. Property sets. Property sets. So remove or? They're good. I like them. So I can see across all variants of a site in one go. I think that's something that the team wants to expand on with the new Search Console to make it easier. Because the feedback of things like I have these four variations of every website that I have, and it's such a hassle to figure out which one I have to look at, that's something that we hear a lot. So trying to find a way to make that a little bit easier to get the bigger picture of your website without having to figure out, is it HTTP, HTVS, or non-dub-dub-dub that I have to look at? That's kind of one of the things that I have to do. But also, John, when you're seeing like search traffic changes, and actually sometimes when you look at the whole set, you see actually it's just shifting around between them. It's no big deal.  That's why they're handy for me anyhow. Yeah. That makes sense, too. Yeah. And the change with the, I guess, request indexing, I find it very interesting. Can you tell us the reason for that quota change? So now it's like a daily quota for most part versus a monthly quota. Is there any, like, was it being spammed or something you don't want to talk about that you'll share now? It sounds like it was too useful in some sense. So that's, it's something where sometimes we get a lot of abuse to some of these features, and the team has to figure out ways to kind of deal with that abuse in an elegant way and that it doesn't affect most normal users. But it's still able to kind of catch these issues that we run into. So I believe, especially the submit URL feature is something that obviously you can use, submit spam as well. And some people have used that, for example, to submit hacked content on a website, which is all not really what the tool is meant to be used for. So finding a way to deal with that elegantly sometimes takes a bit of experimentation and trying things out. Got it. OK, so your previous saying was change because of abuse. Well, I don't know why else we would change it like that. I mean, it's like these subtle changes. I know, but you guys wouldn't say anything why you're kind of quiet about it. I'm like, obviously it's about abuse, but you could just say that. OK, then you figured it out. Yeah, now it's sometimes we run across weird things where we think, well, this makes a lot of sense for normal webmasters, and then suddenly it gets used in ways that from our point of view, it is not the way that it was meant to be used. Thank you. John? Yes. How long can we use the old version? How long can you use the old version? We currently don't have any timeline for turning that off. I think there are only three or four reports that are in the new version, so you almost always have to use a combination of the old and new version. And it'll probably be a while before we have everything migrated over. So don't worry about that disappearing next week or the week after that. OK, can I ask some first two data? Sure. OK, what will happen if we have server sites only to be one big company? And they use Shamrock about local business, and typing local business is not a legal name. All of the type of website have one legal name because they're owned by one company. This is the problem or not? I think it should be fine. OK, and another question for Stuttur data. What will be happen if we have multi-language website, like example five type of language? How we can use another type of business like description of the business? We can translate for every local business on the language or not? I think at the moment, most structured data types don't differentiate by language. So if you have a company name translated into different versions, I don't think that's something that we actually deal with elegantly at the moment. I would do that because it's not a pretty relevant type of name in translation. But it's not the case that we have kind of this complicated setup where you say, well, this is the same company, but it's actually the same company, not available. OK, thank you. Sure. May I ask you something? Sure, go for it. Thank you. So if we have a page taken down by DMCA, but we completely change the content on the page, and if we want to reindex it on Google, is this possible, actually? Because from what I write on the documentation, it is not. But what is the Google opinion on this situation? I think the problem there is that we don't want to be in a situation where we have to evaluate your feedback. So that's something where we essentially rely on this initial complaint when we say, well, no one has a complaint here. You need to figure it out and find a legal solution to that. That's not something that we want to be involved with on a per-year-old, first-aid basis.  And I kind of move on with my content and maybe use a different URL if you have something else that you won't have shown there. But kind of say, well, it is how it is. And there might be, I don't know, legal things that you have to do depending on what the local laws are. So I can't give you any legal advice there, but at least from a search point of view, it is how it's documented. Second question, if we have a HACCP website, for example, WordPress website. And for example, we have an injection code, but we have removed it. How much time is needed for Google to recognize it? So it's everything back to the normal. OK, so if it got hacked and you fixed the hack, I guess it kind of depends on what was the problem with the hack. Because there are some things that we flag in Search Console when it comes to HACCP content, either in the manual action section, depending on how we pick that up, or in the security issue section in Search Console. And for both of those, you can request a reconsideration, which means someone will manually take a look at your website and double check that things are OK, and then they'll remove this manual action or this flag that the website is hacked. And once that's removed, it's essentially a matter of kind of crawling and indexing as it normally happens, where we have to re-understand your content and figure out how we should be showing this website. For the most part, if you've removed any of the HACCP injected content, then that's something that will settle down fairly quickly. But if the HACCP content was available for a very long time, then obviously our view of your website is mostly, well, they're selling, I don't know, Nike shoes. Sometimes it could be completely different from the original content. Yeah. I mean, if the HACCP content is there for a really long time, then we think, well, this is the business. This is the website that they're trying to do. And then it's hard for us to say, well, they stopped selling these shoes, and now they're selling computer software. It's like, maybe they're hacked now. I don't know. So the faster you fix a HACCP, the easier it is for us to actually reprocess and deal with that. Or in other words, it depends on how quickly we have some of the problems. Yeah. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Sure. Let me see, there are some questions also in a chat as well. Since PSI and Lighthouse show new measurement parameters, do we need to use new KPIs to figure out where we should be? Especially with speed, it's something where it's hard to have an absolute measure and say, well, this is the right number and this is the number I need to focus on. There's lots of different ways to measure speed. And I think that's something that we change with the new PageSpeed Insights score, also with the Chrome usability report, I think that we use in the PageSpeed Insights report. And those are all essentially proxies for what users might be seeing when they go to your web page. And obviously, every user is a little bit different, so there's no absolute kind of number to focus on. But sometimes these individual reports point at issues that you can actually work on and improve. Sometimes if all of the numbers are good, then that could be a sign that you're actually really good. It could be a sign that maybe there's something unexpected that you didn't watch out for. For example, what we've sometimes seen is that sites that have an interstitial on mobile, kind of like this interstitial saying you should install our app, they might have really good speed numbers because all they have to do is show this interstitial that says install the app. But actually, to get to the content, you have to click past this interstitial, and then it starts loading the actual content. So the speed score, if you just focus on the number alone, isn't really representative of what a user would see when they try to get to your content on a mobile device. So you always kind of have to interpret the numbers that you see there and use your expert experience to figure out which of these numbers are relevant, which of these numbers are kind of misleading, and which of these numbers you want to focus on as a metric for maybe the next half year if you want to work on speed, for example. There is a question here. I was wondering which of the following solutions is the most effective in terms of SEO, having several pages with very specific content linked together by dispatch page, or having a single page that gathers in different tabs all of the content of the pages mentioned above. With regards to SEO, I think they're kind of pros and cons to both of these approaches. If you're just talking about a handful of pages, then I don't think there's really a big difference there. There might be more issues with regards to usability, and that can, of course, indirectly affect how your site performs in search as well. For example, if people can't share content that's within one of these tabs, then maybe they won't share your URL at all. And that's something that could be picked up on from our side as well if we don't see links to those pages because of them not being able to share that URL with the content that they want to share, then obviously we won't be able to pick that up. So that's kind of the indirect effect there. With regards to direct effect, it's pretty similar, I'd say. I don't think you'd have a big measurable difference there. I'm sure depending on the type of content that you have in those tabs, in those sections, there might be individual cases where going from one layout to the other does have a big visible impact in search. But for the most part, if you're talking about small pieces of content with a handful of tabs, it's probably very similar. All right. Let's see, if a website has backlinks as credits for using photos for copyright issues, how are these backlinks interpreted by Google? Is there a special algorithm to classify those links as credits, or are they regular backlinks? Those are essentially regular backlinks for us. If we pick those up, then that's a link that people put on their pages. That's a link. Let's see, my site doesn't show up when Safe Search is on. I'm 100% sure there is no explicit content. A couple of weeks ago, I submitted it to that contact form. How long does it typically take for a review? Usually, that's something that does take quite a bit of time to be processed and reviewed, and for sites to see any changes there. So even when we manually make any changes there with regards to what is submitted, it does take a couple of weeks for that to actually be live in the search results. So that's something where I definitely give it more than a couple of weeks. But what you could also do is go to the Webmaster Help Forum and kind of post your site there and get some feedback from the folks there with regards to what the site might be being picked up on, or if there may be some issues that you weren't actually aware of with regards to your website. For example, what we sometimes see is that a site has a lot of hacked content that isn't directly visible when you visit it as a Webmaster, but it is visible to search engines, and that could be affecting that as well. Is it true that a feature snippet shown in Search Console as position ones in all other positions are x minus 1, or I guess 1 further? We have a great help article on the positions that are used in Search Console and the Search Analytics feature. I double-checked that article, because there are lots of kind of subtle insights there with regards to how the position that's reported in Search Console is put together. So I kind of double-check that and look at it from there. Let's see. Does Google have a strategy to deal with fake reviews on local businesses? Is that something that will get more attention? Looks like Barry already posted a link there. So I also kind of double-checked the help center there. And if you're seeing things specifically with regards to your local business, there's also a Google My Business help forum where a lot of these people hang out and where they can give you a little bit more advice on what you could be watching out for, what you might be able to do there, and what you might just have to kind of live with and kind of deal with in the long run. So I double-checked that Google My Business help forum and see if they have any feedback for you there. All right. What other questions are on your mind here? Everyone's so quiet today, except Barry. OK. What else is on your mind, Barry? You want to just chat? No, nothing. Just relay to the Google Search Console team that overall the community is very happy with everything they're doing, and they should keep up the good work. So I know they probably see a lot of negativity out there. And being involved in software development, that could be hurtful on some level. So thank them. Cool. All right. I'll pass that on. Sounds good. Cool. Let me just double-check to see if there's anything kind of on top of the list that was also submitted. If you want, we can bring up the whole Google News meta keywords tag and how you guys are so safe. I have no idea about Google News. I always have to pass that on to other people, as you noticed. Yeah. Let's see. What about hyphen in a URL? Hyphens are fine in URLs. So from our point of view, you can use either hyphens or underscores. I think a lot of people prefer hyphens. They're a little bit easier to read. It's something where if the link is underlined, then you actually know what is there. So personally, I just use kind of the hyphens, like the minus signs, rather than underscores. But it's essentially up to you. The correct implementation of hreflang, I'm sure, that a page targeting another country won't appear in the case of another country. For example, if a page from another country is more relevant to this country, we'll see the show that page hiding in the other country. Oh, that's another country, yeah. So hreflang is a signal, not an absolute directive. So if we see an hreflang link between pages and we can verify that this is a valid hreflang link, then that's a real good sign for us to say, well, if one of these pages is ranking in the search results and we know the other one is equivalent and matches the user a little bit better, then usually we'll try to swap that out and show the other URL in the search results. However, it's not a guarantee that it'll always happen. So especially across countries, you always have to assume that some users going to your pages might be from the wrong country, so wrong country in the terms of what you consider right or wrong, not in regards to their bad country, good country, but with regards to what you're trying to target there. And it always makes sense to have some kind of a backup solution there. And that also applies if people go to your pages directly or random other sites linked to your pages. There might be someone from one country going to the wrong country version on your website. So you always have to have some kind of a backup solution there. Our general recommendation is to have a banner that you can pop up with, maybe JavaScript, that recognizes the user's location or user's settings and says, hey, it looks like you're from, I don't know, Italy. And we actually have a page specific for users from Italy. Wouldn't you prefer to go there? And that way, the user can choose to go to your page for their country. But they can also choose to stay on that page if they want to, which is really useful if a user is traveling to a different country, for example, or which is useful for Googlebot. When Googlebot crawls a page from the US, if you have a specific version for the US and you always just redirect them there automatically, then obviously Googlebot will never see the other country version. So by having a subtle banner, you have a backup for a lot of different various situations to kind of handle things with regards to hreflang. And hreflang itself, I say, is one of the trickier things to set up for a website that's kind of non-trivial with regards to its size. So as soon as you have multiple languages, multiple country versions, and you have content in a CMS that's not exactly connected everywhere, then it's sometimes really tricky to set up these links between those pages. And for us, we need to confirm that these links are actually correct, so we need to re-crawl all of those pages, recognize them as all those canonicals, and then we can apply the hreflang annotations in the search results. So that's something where I usually recommend taking time to figure this out with regards to your website and to figure out what actually makes sense for your website and not just blindly going off and say, oh, this is like a meta tag. I can just put it on all my pages and it'll just automatically work from the start. Maybe it even makes sense if you have a larger website to get a consultant who's specifically focused on hreflang issues so that they can help you to kind of figure this out a little bit better. All right, let's grab one last question here from the chat. Is there any SEO value in using the last modification date on a page? So on the page itself or in the HTTP response code, I believe we don't use that at all. We do use the last modification date in a sitemap file, but that's mostly with regards to actually crawling those pages. So those are kind of similar situations in that you both have a date, but they're different in terms of we need to actually get this page crawled and with regards to understanding what date is relevant for a page. So those are kind of the two different scenarios there. And then there's a question about Angular site with regards to crawling and appearing in Search Console. That's something that can be a bit tricky. So what I'd recommend doing there is posting in a special help group that we set up for JavaScript sites in Search. I believe we have a link from the last blog post that we did on the Ajax crawling deprecation. So I double-checked that blog post on the Ajax crawling stuff, and I believe there's a link to the Google group that we set up for this content. So I post there and include your URL so that people can double-check. And hopefully, we can give you some more details there. All right. So with that, we're pretty much at the end of our session. Thank you all for joining. Thanks for coming in, for asking all of these questions, all of the tricky questions even, and hopefully, I'll see you all again in one of the future Hangouts. So we have the next one set up in German on Thursday and English on Friday, and probably we'll set up more for the next couple of weeks as well. All right, thank you, everyone. Bye. Bye.


Welcome to Think Tech on Spectrum OC16, Hawaii's weekly newscast on things that matter to tech and to Hawaii. I'm Keisha King. And I'm Elise Anderson. In our show this time, we'll take a tour of Ilani Palace with Wilson Moore, an attorney who has conducted tours there over the past 10 years. Wilson is retiring from the palace and being recognized by Chief Justice Mark Rectonwald for his service to the judiciary and to the palace. Ilani Palace was the royal residence of the Hawaiian monarchs beginning with Kamehameha III and ending with Queen Lilio Kalani. It's a national landmark on the National Register of Historic Places and is the only royal palace in the United States. With the skills and determination of a lawyer, Wilson Moore has carefully crafted a remarkable tour of the palace and he has conducted and shared that tour with thousands of visitors. In his years at the palace, Wilson Moore studied its history, the dignitaries who came to visit, the stories and intrigues that took place, the painful events of the overthrow and Lilio Kalani's subsequent imprisonment, and the art objects and icons that were there during the royalty and that are there now. The grounds of the palace are managed by DLNR, but the palace building itself is managed as a historical museum by the Friends of Ilani Palace, a local nonprofit concerned with its history and preservation. Dedicated docents like Wilson Moore give their tours to educate visitors and locals alike about the history of the palace and of Hawaii. So we followed Wilson Moore on this, his last tour of the palace. After his years as a docent, he is very knowledgeable about the palace and well able to answer any questions. Like the palace itself, he has become a treasure trove of its history. On behalf of the people of Hawaii and the Friends of Ilani Palace, who maintain this gorgeous building welcome this morning, this palace was built at the request of King Kalakaua back in 1882. He lived here, of course, in his wife Kapiolani, and then his sister, our eighth monarch, also lived here.  This is the only official home of kings and queens in the United States, the only official palace. The EO is the High Flying Hawaiian Hawk. Lonnie is heavenly a royal. Hawk is the name of this palace. There was another palace that stood on the same grounds, but the same name slightly to the east of us, but nowhere near as gorgeous as this building. Monarchy entered in 1893 and a succession of governments took over. And in the 1970s, we started the restoration not only of this building, but of the 11 acre grounds. This palace cost $360,000 back in 1882. We've spent upwards of $15 billion in restoration. I think you'll find it. We did a good job. A coma mai, follow me please. This is the entry gallery to Eolani Palace. I think the first thing I'd like to have you do is to look around and see how beautiful this architecture is. Remember back in the 1800s, most Hawaiians lived in Hale Pili. Hale is the Hawaiian word for house. Pili is the Hawaiian word for grass. They literally lived in grass houses. The stairway would have probably caught your eye. It's made of koa. Koa is the upland variety of acacia, but indeed those are original steps. You can almost imagine King Kalakawa coming down to greet you personally this morning. The name of this room takes its name from the color of the furniture, the blue room. Let me introduce you to your host this morning. David Laumea Kalakawa, won the election of 1874 and came to power. Now when he came to power in 1874, that sandalwood had all been logged off. What's coming up is a new industry, sugar. But sugar needed a treaty from the United States so it could be introduced without having to pay duty. 1874, the same year he was elected, off he goes to Washington, D.C. Now gone for 10 months, somebody has to be in charge of Hawaii, so what he did was he appointed his sister, Lydia Paqui Dominus, to be his regent, and thereafter she became known as Princess Lillio Colani. Before in the fall of 1890, the king took what was supposed to be a very short trip to San Francisco, supposedly on some Shriner business. Sadly, King Kalakawa passed away in San Francisco January 1891, oddly enough in the Palace Hotel, age 54, having ruled for 17 years, and now Princess Lillio Colani becomes Queen Lillio Colani. She's married to John Dominus. John came to Hawaii age five, his dad was a ship captain from New York. John grew up to be kind of an interesting guy. He was governor of Oahu for several decades, and somebody she relied on for advice, and she needed it. Now Lillio Colani had gone to the royal school, spoke flawless English, but she had no government experience whatsoever. Nobody expected that Capilani and Kalakawa are not going to have children, they did not. Nobody expected that he wasn't going to come right back from San Francisco. Sadly he passed away, and all of a sudden she's thrust into power. Now the interesting person in this room is Miriam Lique Lique, sister of Lillio Colani and Kalakawa. She's married to Archibald Clayhorn and a very smart American businessman. Their daughter is Princess Kailani, cannot live in Hawaii very long without hearing the name Kailani. Hollywood made a movie about five years ago called Kailani, which was a beautiful travel log of Hawaii, but did not contain much historical truth, said she was sent to England, perceived keeping no, she was sent to England to be groomed to be a queen. But sadly we lost her to a horse accent later. Let's go dine with the monarch. Now notice that the monarch's chair is in the middle of the table, not at the head of the foot, and that's because of communication. If it took two weeks for a sailing ship to get here, that means two weeks for a newspaper, certainly no computers, certainly no television, not even trans-public phone. So the only way the king could find out what was going on in the world was to have a meal, probably talk more important than food.   I said, because it'd be pretty dumb for a waiter to carry two platters of food up two flights of stairs when you use a pulley system. Food, just so you know that nobody ever starved. That particular menu that we have a copy of from 1883 started with fruit. Then there were three kinds of fish. There was crab, there was mullet and kumuk, who was a lovely goatfish. And there were three kinds of broiled food. There was beef, there was brains, there was chicken. There was three kinds of vegetables, asparagus, peas, and mashed potatoes. Three kinds of game, there was duck, there was pigeon, and colea. Colea is the western golden plover that comes here on migration. The king loved colea. Now the glassware on the table is from Bohemia, which today would be the Czech Republic. Now the king had the finest wine cellar in the Pacific, but those large flasks that you see were actually for water. So with so much wine, with such a long meal, the gentleman could put water in the lady's wine glass so they didn't fall asleep at the table or worse yet start to out talk the king. These are the public apartments down here. We're going to go upstairs and see the private apartments. When the overthrow took place in 1893, there were perhaps 10,000 different items in the palace. I'm talking about pictures and forks and spoons and curtains and rugs, 10,000 different things within the confines of the palace. After the government took over, Capulani's executors started to sell everything off. Liliacolani's executor sold more things. Government did the same. Over the years, people would buy things from those auctioneers, scatter to the forewinds, and we've had a dickens of a time getting those things back. But we have been lucky to get 40 to 50% of the original contents of the palace back. If you take a look at the photograph that is on the easel, that's taken of this room in 1886. On the far side of that room, on the far right-hand side of that photograph, you see a round table. Actually, that's a tilt-top table. Look over there at the third window, you can see the tilt-top table back. And in the far corner, the blue minton vase, only four in the world, it's pretty imposing, Prometheus actually giving fire to the world. Now, it's not a coincidence that the king's bedroom here and the queen's bedroom across the hall is on the north side of the palace, because that's north. Why? Because it is the northeast trade winds, which keep us cool. So if the king had something important to go to the next day, the six-foot windows would be all up, and the shutters, you see, are designed so they would block the light, but they would still let the air come through. But then how does he wake up? There's no clock radio been invented, no alarm clock. Well, maybe the system would have been that a servant would come in, chanting a holy, a chant maybe about his genealogy or the events of the day, but now the whole purpose is now, you don't want to wake the king up paka-ki. P-A-K-A-K-I is grouchy in Hawaiian. You don't need a grouchy king first thing in the morning, so I'd be chanting very softly as you open the first window, chanting a little louder there, and then full voice, because I had to get the king up, and perhaps he would have said, Your Majesty, I've awakened you, but perhaps you'd like to take breakfast in the library. They call this the library, but it really is the king's office. This is where the king would do his daily chores. This is where he'd meet with his five ministers almost on a daily basis. This desk is an original from one of his residences. When he got to Paris in 1881, he saw a demonstration of electric lights. That so fascinated him, he actually met with Thomas Alba Edison when he traveled back to the United States. So in 1886, that 50th birthday party, the exterior of the palace and the grounds were electrified. Then the next year in 1887, the interior of the palace was electrified four years before the White House, four years before the White House. My school kids say, How in the world do you turn the lights off? Look at the walls, no switches on the walls. Well, the drill back in those days the king would call to his superintendent of the powerhouse. We think a coal powerhouse on the back of this property, ah, he was environmentally astute. The wires went underground. He'd call over and say, I want lights off at eight o'clock.  There was no other illumination. Behind you on the wall is a picture of that first stop around the world in 1881, Japan. Now the king was always looking for another political alliance, especially in the Pacific, but he was particularly taken with one of the Japanese princes. Thought he was a fine young man. He proposed to the Japanese government a future marriage contract between that Japanese prince and Princess Kaileni. Now Kaileni was a very young girl at that time, but a future marriage contract. But the Japanese government would have none of it, said no, but how interesting to think, how different, Japan, Hawaii, the United States, and maybe the world would have been had that marriage taken place. Okay, this is a work room. This is the gold room. I think this is one of the most beautiful rooms, restored rooms in the palace, but it really is a music room. The Hawaiians are marvelous musicians. They not only played for their own enjoyment, they composed. King Kalakaua composed the lyrics to our state anthem, which is Hawai'i Pono'i, which in English means our own Hawai'i, and his sister Lili Okalani, a very prolific composer, over 100 songs, perhaps a lo-ho-oi, farewell to thee, is the one you would remember the most. The screen below is a gift to King Kalakaua from the Japanese Council. From 1868 to the turn of the century, over 100,000 Japanese came to Hawai'i to work in the sugar plantation followed by Filipino, Chinese, Portuguese, other races. That's why when you walk down any street in Hawai'i, you see a rainbow of faces, almost all dating back to the immigration to work in the sugar. The red chair in the right corner is the actual throne of King Kamehameha III, who in 1843 said, Now this room doesn't have any furniture because it was a guest room. Palace was finished in 1882 and the royal family moved in. 1883, the following year, Kapiolani realized she had a widowed sister. Sister's name was Kei Kaolikei P'ikoi, Kei Kao for short, and she had three boys. And so essentially, Kapiolani said, Sister, you've got no husband, three boys. We have this great big palace. Come live with us. And in 1883, that's what came to pass. 1885, unfortunately in 1884, Kei Kaol died. And so these boys have no mother, no father. They're wards of the king and queen who loved them. They were sent in 1885 to St. Michael's Military School in San Mateo, California to further their education. On an outing, they go to Santa Cruz Beach. What do you think they see at Santa Cruz Beach? Nalu, which is the Hawaiian word for waves. They go to a lumber yard, they make surfboards out of redwood, and there is to this very day, a plaque at Santa Cruz Beach, a testing to the fact that the very first surfing in the United States was by the Three P. Koi Boys in 1885. Now in 1912, back from the Olympics, comes Ducal Hanamoko, our famous swimmer and surfer, and he goes to Southern California and he starts surfing in Southern California. Now those crazy Southern Californians think they started surfing, but you know the truth. Three P. Koi Boys, Santa Cruz Beach, 1885. Let's go see the queen's bedroom. Okay, this is Queen Kapiolani's bedroom. It's all done in red, which is the royal colors. Here in the room is a reproduction of Kapiolani's dark satin gown that she wore to the Jubilee in 1887. Queen Victoria asked the ladies who were invited, the queens, to please wear something typical from the country from which they were arriving. Nothing is more typical in Hawaii than Hulu. Hulu is the Hawaiian word for feathers and lo and behold, the original would have had epaulets and ropes of feathers. Now, 1887 in the Golden Jubilee, I told you King Kalakaua chose not to go, but he sent his wife Kapiolani, the lady on this picture on this easel, and he sent, of course, his sister, Queen Liliokolani. Now take a look at Liliokolani's hair, the lady on the left. I do not know what you call jewelry, a brooch perhaps. That's 159 diamonds, two ruby eyes. It's a diamond butterfly. It's so ingeniously made that little springs in the wings so that when she walked, the wings tended to flutter. She paid 400 pounds for that in London, priceless. I have no idea what it'd be worth today. Okay, this is the throne room, the ceremonial center of Iolani Palace. Lots to talk about, but here again are the gowns. Remember I told you the significance of who, the feathers and the gowns in 1887. Jubilee on the left is a reproduction of Queen Kapiolani's peacock feather gown. Reproduction, of course, but you can imagine what a sensation that was when she appeared in that in London. The gown on the right was one of Liliokolani's gowns. Now take a look at those thrones, ladies and gentlemen. Remember that simple red chair that King Kamehameha the Third had? Look at this, twin 23 carat gold thrones. The two white Cahiles flanking the thrones are made from the feathers of the Laysan Island albatross. Carcassus, ladies and gentlemen, we didn't kill the birds. In ancient days it is said that each member of the royal family had a Cahile in a distinctive pattern and color only unto themselves. So when they went out in public to notify the public that royalty was coming, the Cahile bear would precede them and the Cahiles were so distinctive all you had to do was look at the Cahile and you'd know immediately which member of the royal family was coming behind. Now under the glass case in front of you are the actual crowns used in the coronation of 1883. The larger of the two crowns was handed to Kalakaua and he placed it on his head. The smaller of the two crowns was handed to him for his queen. Well, I've heard of an apocryphal story that Queen Kapilani wanted to get all gussied up for her coronation. So she sent for her favorite hairdresser who unfortunately provided a beehive hairdo. And accounts of the occasion said she had a little, the king had a little difficulty settling the crown on his head, but it was accomplished according to the newspaper reports.  Now Henry Berger was our band master for many decades. He always prepared a dance card, typically maybe 14 items, maybe the first one would be waltz by Strauss, then line, then foxtrot by so and so, two o'clock in the, no, midnight you'd go across for midnight supper first and then back for some more dancing and about two o'clock in the morning, the king would repair upstairs, you'd hear the clatter of your carriage come to the front steps and you'd know your gala evening would be over, hopefully with some great memories and this ends our tour too. I hope you come back and see us. Thank you very much. After this tour, Chief Justice Rectonwald presented a proclamation recognizing Wilson Moore for his years of service to the judiciary and to the palace. We were pleased to be there and meet those who came to the ceremony. Thanks to Wilson Moore for a great tour and thanks to Mark Schlaw for organizing the tour and the ceremony. If you wanna know more about the palace, check out EolaniPalace.org. If you wanna know more about the organization that supports the palace, check out Friends of EolaniPalace.org. If you wanna know more about the state judiciary, check out courts.state.hi.us. And now let's check out our Think Tech schedule of events going forward. Think Tech broadcasts talk shows live on the internet from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. on weekdays, then we broadcast our earlier shows all night long and on the weekends. 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Just being relaxing in this Japanese garden. As many of you know, I do like Japan. I was there for two weeks just a few months ago, and I do like Japanese gardens. It's very peaceful out here. I managed to get here when it's not raining. Which is pretty cool as well. The sun is out. It's a beautiful day. Hello everyone. Thank you all for joining me today. I do appreciate you all. That's why I read your comments every day, every morning, because your support means a lot to me. And I love doing what I do. This is the best job in the world. So yeah, and it's great to be filming this in this Japanese garden right now. I have to share this with you. So thank you all for joining me today and in this video, we're going to be talking about this is why narcissists are so miserable or always miserable, I should say. Because they are always miserable. It's like whenever you see them, they're never happy or what they do sometimes is they just exaggerate it. They put on this big smile as though everything's okay and they're satisfied with everything in their lives. But you know, that's not the truth. It's a false display. They're not really happy. They're never happy with anything. But they put on these big smiles and they take these selfies and they'll tell you they're living their best lives. You might believe it initially, but once you've found my videos, you know, it's all a lie because they're not really happy. They never are. Just remember everything you did for them. You did everything you could to make them happy and they never were. It's like you could have flown them to the moon and back and they'd still find something wrong with that. They'd still have a reason to pick a fight with you and you just can't understand why you just couldn't get your head around it. It's like why is this person so mean? But then they would have maybe friends or family members, co-workers, whatever it is. And it looks like they're having a good time with them. And you wonder why can't they be like that with you? And as I've said in another video, the reason why is because those other people, they just get in a fake version. And that's why everything is so exaggerated, like these forced smiles and this fake laughter. It's all exaggerated because it's meant to leave an impression on you. But then when they're around you, you get that real version. You're seeing who they really are. And this is actually why they are miserable because, unlike a normal person, the last thing they want to do is share anything with you. They like to pretend with other people so that they can hurt you. But other than that, they don't actually want to give anything to you. It's all about withholding. They will do anything they can to find out what you want, what you desire, what interests you, what you're passionate about. And then as soon as they find out what that is, they will deliberately withhold it from you because that's the only way that they can feel anything close to satisfaction is by withholding things from you, denying you because when they give to you or share with you, whatever it is, that does not satisfy them. You see, with a normal person, if you give or share something with an intimate partner, some of you love, or it could be a family member, it could be your child, it could be anyone. If you give and share with that person, it makes you feel incredible insight and it makes you feel alive. You're on top of the world. But narcissists do not get that feeling. They don't get that when they give to you. If they did, that would be an incentive for them to give all of their love to you. So this is it. That's the reason why they're so miserable. And you know, if they could become aware of that and realize what they're doing and then put a stop to it, put it in reverse and start giving their love to you. If they did that, they wouldn't even be a narcissist anymore. Then they would begin to function like a normal person rather than someone who has been through so much trauma where they've just cut themselves off from everyone. And that's why you just can't get through to them. It's like no matter what you do, they just never understand you. They don't know where you're coming from because they're quite comfortable with the way things are. They're quite happy with that. And you're coming to them with a problem and you may not even be doing that directly. It could just be if you're not pointing things out. They can just tell when you're not happy with something and it doesn't make any sense to them because everything's fine for them because they're still getting their needs met even when they withhold from you. When they withhold their love and attention from you, it's not affecting them at all because remember that doesn't do anything for them. They don't operate like normal people. It only affects you because you are the closest thing to normal and they put on that display with their friends, family members, co-workers, whoever it is. They do that, but that's only for you. That's why they post it up on social media so that you feel the illusion because if you could see it, if you could actually be there and be a fly on the wall, you would see that it's all a display. It's an orchestration. They plan and coordinate the elements of the situation to produce the desired effect because they want it to be effective on you because you are the audience. You are validating the illusion. And then in that moment, they can believe that it's real because it's affecting you. And then they get that two-second tie and that moment they feel alive because it's like they're robbing you of your life source, your energy because you have that for real inside yourself. That's what they want. You have this pure love in your heart and they don't have that.   And then it's only when they're around everyone else that's when you see this fake version of them because they know, even though they may not have put it up on social media or told you about it just yet, they're anticipating it. So they already know the reaction they're going to get of you because they know that you desired that from them. They knew that you wanted love. You wanted a relationship.  But they would never do that for you. And you couldn't understand why. And deep down inside, they know that something is wrong with them. And that's why they want to prove it, not only to you, but to themselves that maybe they can be normal. And that's why they go on to create this display, which they then show to you so that you can validate it and they can feel like they are the normal ones. Do you see how it works? This is all what's going on inside their minds. It really is as crazy as it sounds, that is what is happening. As I've said before, you will never get real love from them, no matter how much you may desire and crave it, no matter how much you're longing and yearning for it, you dream about it, you fantasize about it. But one day, they're just going to walk through the door and put their arms around you. And then they say, I love you. You mean so much to me. I want to be with you forever. You wish and you hope for that day to come. I know many of you do, if you were dealing with a true narcissist, that's all you ever wanted is for them to care about you and for them to show that to you. But I can tell you that that's never going to happen. Or even if it did, it would just be a false display. It's something they would do just to win you back. Not because they actually care about you. You are expecting something from the wrong person because you are never going to get that from them. They cannot love you. No matter how bad you want it, you're never going to get their hearts.  Because as I've said, they have no love to give you. And that is why you're never going to feel loved unless you just completely detach from reality and you succumb to the gaslighting, the manipulation tactics and you become pretty much crazy, insane. But you actually believe that this cold-hearted narcissist really loves you. And it's a really sad thing when that happens because people like that, they may not even see that there's a problem and they can be stuck with a narcissist for a very long time because you keep justifying their actions. You keep making excuses for it. I can tell you that there is no change. If you are dealing with a real narcissist, there is no change. It will never happen. I know how you've seen them interact with other people. It makes you think they have the potential to love you and care about you. No, they don't. It's all fake.  I don't care what you've seen on social media or how they interact with family members or friends or if they've met someone new. It doesn't matter if you were dealing with a true narcissist. They're never going to love anyone. Never, not for real. But I don't know, it may hurt for you to hear that but that is the truth and you've got to accept it. They cannot love. They have no love to give. Why do you think it's so easy for them to leave you, to move on?  How can someone do that? If someone has a heart, if someone can really experience love, how do you think they can do that? You've got to think about that. They can't. If you really love someone, you can't just leave them and forget about them. You can't just treat them like they never existed. You can't do that, but narcissists can. They could be with you for months or years. They could tell you, I love you. I want to marry you. I want to have children with you. Have them the next day. They're gone.  How is that possible? If what they had with you was real? I mean, it may have been real for you because you can experience real love, emotional connections, intimacy, all of that. But for them, it was never real. But they really get off in it. I can tell you that. They love it. When you are longing and yearning for them, that's really the best part for them. There's nothing they love more than that. That's why they create the illusion in the first place. That's why they tell you all of these things. They tell you, I love you. I miss you. I want a future with you. They're not saying that because they're trying to attach themselves to you. That doesn't do anything for them. That doesn't satisfy them in any way. But what does is when they tell you those things and it gets you to attach to them. Attaching to you does not provide them with any satisfaction. It doesn't make them feel good. It doesn't make them feel anything. It just makes them feel like they're losing power. They're under your control, your authority, which is the last thing they want because they want to be the ones in control. But when they get you to attach to them, that's supply. That's all that is. And it makes them feel incredible to know that you are reacting.  They might say they love you and they miss you. They want to get married, have children with you. And when you react to that, it makes them feel very good about themselves. They do these things because they're very insecure. Strange, but somehow it's often the most beautiful and the most successful people who are the most insecure. It really is and it's those people who really feel nothing inside and they get nothing from attaching themselves to you only from getting you to attach to them. And that's really what a narcissist is. It's someone who all they want is for you to attach to them. You can know they're not really about anything.   You've got to recognize that. Just look back at how they've treated you in the past. I saw a comment earlier today, someone said, one good day out of 30 days, that's not a good ratio. So yeah, you might get one day from a narcissist out of a month where they tell you, I love you, I want to be with you.  And then you really believe it. And then you're holding on for the rest of the month, waiting for that character to come back because you think that it's real. That is not love. Real love is consistent. It's not just going to be one day out of 30 days. It's not. And that's what you've got to look at. Don't just look at the one day that they treated you well and they took an interest in you. They cared about you. What about all of the other days? What were they doing then? Because that's how they lock you down is to get you to just reminisce about that one time when they were good to you. But what about all of the other times? What were they doing then? That's what you've got to remember because I know that's what we do, isn't it? We hold on to the good times. We remember when things were good because that's what we really want. And then we just forget about everything else. And it really goes to extremes sometimes.  It's really sad when you think about it. It's like you're living in a dream, hoping that they're gonna change because for you, it's so easy for you to change. If you've made a mistake, if you've done something wrong, it's so easy for you to fix that. So you assume that they can do it too. But you have to remember that they have a disorder. They can't just go and change it. They can't just start loving you just because you want them to. It's not gonna work like that. This is what you need to understand. They are never going to change. But they really do get a kick out of making you think that they have changed or that they will change. That really gives them satisfaction when they can do all of these things to you. You put up with so much and maybe you get really irritated by it, get really angry. You might say to them, I never wanna talk to you again. I never wanna see you again. And then they really get a kick out of turning your no into a yes. They love that. They love to turn no's into yeses. After everything they've done, how they treated you, there's really no greater supply than that. And turning that no into a yes. Even though they know that they're wrong. They do know that they're wrong. Of course they do. That's why they often come back with the fake apologies, the false epiphanies. They come back telling you, I'm so sorry I did that, didn't mean to. I'll never do that again. Now I know what I've done, how it affected you. I'm going to change, we're gonna be better. Some of them will even beg you to take them back. Some of them will even cry. They might be on their hands and knees. And you might look at that and think he or she can't be a narcissist. Narcissists don't apologize. They don't admit they're wrongs. They don't regret anything. They don't cry, they don't get emotional. Narcissists are incredible actors. They can really put on a show and make you believe that they are sorry and that they're gonna change. Some of them, yes, they will beg, they will cry, they will, whatever they knew that you wanted from them the entire time, when you stop putting up with them and all of the things that they're doing, they will come back and suddenly they're offering to do that one thing that you always wanted them to do.  And then here they come. Oh, I know exactly what you need. And let's go and do that now. And then they hold you off, they're future fake. Never actually ends up happening. But what does happen is that they go back to their same old behaviors again. And then you just end up cutting them off again then. But all of the promises never come into fruition. All of those things that they said they were going to do. And as I said, the entire time that you were with them, they knew exactly what you wanted. They knew maybe you wanted to go on a trip somewhere or I don't know, whatever it is that you wanted from them in that relationship, they knew it the entire time.  And they got often doing that. Because as I said, they don't find any satisfaction in giving to you, providing to you. They don't find any satisfaction in doing that. What's more pleasurable for them is withholding it from you, whatever it is that you want. And then watching you long and you in for it. Because that's what they want to see is they want to irritate and frustrate you. And if they can pull it off, the very things that you want and expect, you will never get. That's typically what ends up happening is that whatever you wanted from them, you never get that. And then they use it to punish you at the end because they give that to someone else.  You see that whatever you wanted. Maybe you wanted to go to Disneyland with them. And you waited for years. You could have been with them for 10, 20 years. They never took you to Disneyland. And then the moment you break up, it could be the next day you go on Facebook, Instagram. They're in Disneyland with someone else. As crazy as it sounds, that's what they do. That's exactly what they do to you.  It's so cruel and sick. It's sadistic.  You really are. You've just got to accept that there is nothing in the future. This person is never going to change. They can't change. They're never going to be your friend. They're never going to be someone that you can rely on, someone that you can trust. They're never going to be that for you. No matter how much you wish that they could, they're never going to be that to you for real. The closest thing you will ever get is the illusion. I mean, you might see it in the beginning. You see the fake version. That's before you really get to know them because you're not really involved with them yet.  And I mean, physically, the way they take care of themselves, they might be in perfect shape. They do their hair, makeup, everything. And the way they treat you, they're so kind and respectful. It's like everything you ever wanted. You feel like you've met your soulmates. You feel like you've met the one.   And then they move on to someone else. And then you're looking on Facebook or Instagram. And then you see it again. This person that you saw in the beginning, this perfect fantasy, this character, everything you ever wanted. Now they're being that for someone else. And it just leaves you thinking, hold on a minute. How come all of this time that I spent with them, they could never be that for me? And that's when many of you start to put the pieces together. You realize something is not right. You find my videos. You realize that it's all a lie. Because it really is.  They weren't just doing that for you. They were doing that for their ex as well. And that's why many of them, they have to put the pictures up on social media. Everyone's got to see it because they're using that to punish their ex. And then it's the same thing when they leave you and they meet the next person, and they're being this perfect fantasy for them. They're using that to hurt you. And the new person may not even know about it. Not until they go through the cycle, because this whole thing, it just goes on and on.  They never do. It's just from one act to the next, that's all it is.  And you don't realize it, but you're actually just participating in this show. Because that's what it is. It's a show for other people. It's for the image, the status to make it look like they are this good boyfriend or girlfriend, husband or wife, mother or father, whatever it is. It's a false display. And you know it's a false display. Or at least you realize that after a while, because they treat you worse than everyone else, but everyone who sees it from the outside, they don't know that. And if you go and you complain about it to anyone, they just end up thinking something's wrong with you. By the end of it, that's how people start to see you. Because in the end, they always play the victim. They always blame you. It's just the same thing every time. And I know that everyone who is watching this right now, you can relate. You've seen it, you've been through it. It's like no matter where you're from in the world, they're all the same. They're all the same. And they leave you longing and hearing in, hoping that they will change. But they never do. But you know, they always have the upper hand. They always have the advantage over everyone. I mean, you've got to think what pulled you into the arms of a narcissist when there were all of these other people out there. How did that happen? There may have been so many people who wore their heart on their sleeve. So why did you pick them? And the reason for that is because we want love we may want a relationship, marriage, children, whatever it is, but the problem is once you've got it, you no longer want it. And that goes the same for anything in life. It doesn't matter what it is. Like I may have wanted the Range Rover that I've got right now, but then as soon as I got it, I no longer want it. And that is the same with you and the narcissist. It's the exact same thing. That's what they play on because they know they understand the psychology of it. They know that if they give you their love, once you've got it, you're no longer gonna want it. You can't want something you've already got. So then you're no longer giving them supply. And that's how they keep you as this great day permanent source of supply by making you long and youan for it.  It was that person who withheld it from you, that person who refused to love you. And many of them know this, some of them don't, but they just do it subconsciously that it has a very powerful effect. I mean, when you're with the right person, that will happen naturally.  It's part of the manipulation, but in a normal situation, you could just be busy at work and it's natural. And then they may be longing and yearning for your love and attention. So it kind of worked that way. Yeah, that's what they do. That's how they gain their power over you. It's been making you long and yearn for their love because that's what has the greatest effect and keeps you as their source of supply. Because as I've said, once you've got something and you know that you've got it, it's not going anywhere, you don't really care about it much anymore, whatever it is. Like I said, you can't once and desire something that you've already got. That's the thing, that is the problem because once you've got something and you know it's not going anywhere, you just don't want it anymore. But that's something we all need to learn from. I mean, of course I understand it and I have experienced that myself where I wanted something, I got it and I no longer cared about it anymore. I can recognize that in myself. And you just got to want to be a better person. Like now what I do, I spend a lot of time in these gardens, appreciating nature, birds, the flowers. If you've even got this dog sitting by me here, I appreciate the dog. And that's really what you've got to do because that's just how it goes in relationships. Once you know you've got someone, yeah, you may not want them as much as you did in the beginning. Well, you're not going to want them because you've got them already. So yeah, you do lose that in a relationship. But if you're a healthy, mature person, then you can recognize that sometimes you need to appreciate what you have. You need to take care of it, just like you could have a car. Maybe you've had that car for a few months, a few years, but you still know that sometimes you need to change the oil, you need to clean the car. It doesn't mean that you just need to change the car. So yeah, I think that's important. And of course, that's what I often do myself. I see that now that I travel to all of these places like every few months, I've got to be somewhere else. South Korea, I was there for five weeks. Japan, two weeks. Vietnam, I was there for maybe three days. I know I travel around a lot. I like to change my car every four weeks. I like to go to different restaurants every day, make a lot of new friends everywhere I go. That's what I do, isn't it? But I am trying to appreciate where I am and the people that I am with because I do recognize that I haven't done that for a long time. I just moved from place to place, car to car.  I have seen a lot of different people. It's true, I have. And that is something I need to take responsibility for. But maybe I didn't appreciate people as much as I could. You know, that's what separates us from these full-blown narcissists. Because as I've said, sometimes we may not feel as grateful as we should for certain. This is why I come out today. We spend so much time in the city, but I wanted to come out here to this garden and just appreciate all of the trees and the flowers. The birds, the butterflies, just appreciate everything because I think it's important to do that. And I'm trying to appreciate the people in my life more as well. Especially all of you who are watching this video right now. I do appreciate all of you. Sometimes I get lost in traveling and all of these things. But you know what matters more than anything I realize now is this connection that we have, the way that we all connect to each other. That is the most important thing in this world. And I'll admit, it took me a long time to realize that, but I do realize it. This connection that we have from person to person, there is nothing greater than that. And I've seen it in the comments. I know you talk about it at many of you how I wear a lot of designer clothes. I like to wear my gold and my shades and drive all these cars, all these superficial things. But you know, I do value connection. I do value people. I do. I really do every day. I read your comments and I always show my appreciation by responding or giving the comment to heart. And it's important just to take time and notice the people around you because we can get lost in this world, these superficial things, we can. And I'll admit, I think I have done that myself more than once, but when we become aware of it, we can change it. And this is something I hope, if I forget, then I will watch this video again because sometimes I do watch my old videos. This will remind me to become aware of it again if I need to. You know, sometimes we worry about stupid things, things that aren't even important and it makes us angry and sometimes this can last for weeks, months and it just eats away at us and we don't know why. But then it's like as soon as you become aware of it, then you can change it. Then you can start appreciating life again. But narcissists, no, they can't do any of that. And you will never get that from them. I'm sorry, but it's the truth. And you need to know that. They are never going to change. They will always be that way. They will always mistreat you, neglect you because you're just not important to them. It's as simple as that. They're self-absorbed and they like empathy. They don't even notice you half the time and it's sad, but that's just the way it is. And it's not gonna change. But things can change for you. You can find someone who can give you what you really want. You just have to, you have to deal with the trauma bond because you've become addicted to them to trying to get that which they are withholding from you. Just their love, their attention, all of that. And to deal with that, just freely give your love because you already have that love within yourself. And when you do that and you find things that you are passionate about, it will help you to deal with the trauma bond. And then you can move on and you can find someone who will love you for real. And I'm not saying it will be easy. Of course, it is very rare, but now that you have this information and you have this awareness, it makes it a lot more likely for it to happen to you. And I believe that it can happen for you. So yeah, that's really my advice. The first thing is to deal with the trauma bond. And to deal with that, you just have to find things that you are passionate about, focus on your life again, instead of investing so much time into the narcissist because it's really not serving you. But as soon as you put that attention back on yourself and you invest in yourself, I know that things will get better for you. It looks like it could start raining soon. I've just been enjoying this and down here doing this video, giving this information to you. Okay, that's it for today. I'm gonna try and see a bit more of this garden before it starts to rain. So I hope you enjoy the video and you all have a great day.


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