What are you all doing today? Good to see you all here. Hi Greg. Look at that. This always happens doesn't it? No matter how much I think that I'm prepared, these comments always seem to come in a different size. I'm not quite sure why that happened to be honest because I thought I had not changed anything since last time but there you go. That's one of these things about ECAM. Hi Greg. Hope you're doing well. Hope you're fully recovered now from your epic ride. I know it was a week and a half ago or two weeks but it would certainly take me a while to recover from it. Hi Michael. Hi Chris. Hope you had a good holiday. Where did you go by the way? Go anywhere nice? Did you go out of the country at all? I know the UK is pretty much getting back to all things open now isn't it? Hope you had a good time whatever you were doing anyway. Hi Jeff. Good to see you again. And Matt. Great to see you here too. Wrong comment. Hi Matt. Hey Paul. Ian. Oh nice to see you. A new face. Hey Steve. Good to see you here as well. I just saw your comment by the way Steve about the template pack. Great. I'm really glad you found that useful. Oh another Michael. Hi Michael in the UK. Matt just mentioned it. Zoom at Marathon Man. So I've been in a week long zoom thing for one of my other roles this week and it's been absolutely exhausting but tremendously productive at the same time. So I'm absolutely exhausted and I woke up late this morning. I woke up at 3.30 instead of 3 o'clock. So I have a for the past sort of five weeks in the next five weeks. I've got a sort of late night late night for me zoom call at half past eight till 9.30. I say that's late night. I know that some of you Chris and Michael in the UK. It's probably a lot later than that for you now but I'm normally a lot earlier to bed personally so I normally go to bed at 8 o'clock. So these late night zoom calls are sort of affect my schedule a little bit. So you might just tell I'm quite sleepy because my little boy was up in the night as well. So I had sort of four and a half, five hours sleep but then I was woken up about three times during that as well. So probably won't be a long live stream this morning but it's great to see you all here anyway. Greg still recovering from the ride. I'll recover from the ride and still trip. Of course. Yeah, you've got your your bodybuilding thing. So that's when's when's that coming up? That's not long now is it? Stayed in the UK, visited for some friends in the UK. Well, it's always nice to have a break though isn't it? Wherever you are, whatever you're doing. Oh, 11 o'clock and but we'll stay up to see me. Well, thank you very much Chris. I appreciate it. I'll have to do something to make it worthwhile. I have to make sure I give you some good information. So I'll start with do my usual update on where I've been with my videos. So let me get up day 148 and last week I was basically four videos behind as it were. And this week I've only put out one video, but I'm quite pleased because a lot of people found it useful. So it was the one with the the overlay template grid to allow you to organize your your scenes and stuff like that. So that was the only video I made on Wednesday. So officially I am 139 videos now on day 148. So I've still got some more catching up to do. But this week has been a really positive week for me actually. And it's got thanks Greg. This week has been a really positive week for me. And it's actually, yeah, it's really just been really motivational. And I'll be getting a lot more stuff out over the next next next few weeks specifically. So I'm glad you found it useful as well, Jeff. It's this new version of Ecamm Live that's coming really.  I did a whole video about it obviously and that video about how you can just make all your scenes in Ecamm Live now. No need for graphical overlays and things like that. In the most part there is still a place for them. But yeah, it's just a great great feature. So I thought having that thanks Chris. Having a template like that. I mean, I'm actually going to put that in as a feature request to be honest. That sort of grid to have as a, you know, they could have it in a bit like in a bit like in Keynote or Photoshop or things like that. You've got a little toggle that you can show and hide the guides. Well, normally you obviously have to create your own guidelines and rulers and things like that. Sorry, just in case anybody is totally unaware what I'm talking about. I know that a lot of you have seen this, but I created this grid. Let me just do this just in case anybody is unaware. So it's basically this grid that you can lay over your scenes. Let me just toggle this background image off. There we go. Get that one out of the way. So I've made this grid that basically just you can show in the background of your scenes. And then it just means that it makes it easy to lay out all of your different layouts basically. So if I've got my two side by side like that, you can see how that's fitting into the grid. I come over to my main shot, then I've got my two side by side. And it just means that you can just move these around and position them and resize them really quickly to get things exactly where you want them. So having something like that actually as a sort of built-in feature in Ecamm Live. Oh, look at that. That's from last week. It's almost like I'm preempting who's going to come on, isn't it? That was named still up there from last week. So yeah, that was the sort of little template overlay I did, that little image. But having something like that in Ecamm as a sort of toggle on and off the guides, I think would be really useful given all of the functionality that they've now added into it. Get rid of that. I'll put my main scene back up, get my camera back up. There we go. So I've lost my train of thought now. But yeah, that was something that I think would be good to go into Ecamm. And then where was it going to go then? I was going to tell you about something else, but I'm a little bit sleepy to be honest with you. Make some cool sun glasses that just have the grid in it all the time. Yeah, that's good. It'd be like augmented reality, weren't it? Augmented Ecamm reality, just looking at it and get them all right. Take that with the changes to Keynote. I'm not sure what changes to Keynote there are. Might be missing something there. I'm a bit slow this one, so forgive me if I haven't quite understood that one.  The little devil Robocaster Pro. Yeah, so Matt has got a Robocaster Pro. I've talked for a while about how this is on my wish list, but I don't really need it to be honest because this is the sensible me talking because I'm using my short MV7 just over USB into the computer. And this sounds all right, isn't it? It's not perfect, but it's working with... It's the talent that's flawed more than the equipment. But yeah, Matt's just got a Robocaster Pro, so he's been sending me a few pictures of it and I've got an empty space on my desk, but I definitely don't need one at the moment. Oh, sorry, of course, Geoff. They've added live video within Keynote. Yes, and then now we can bring that into Ecamp, of course. So yeah, thank you very much for that. So what I'll do is I'll just have a look at my stats because there has been a bit of a sort of change in the figures that I've been getting and obviously this thing is all about me just updating you on that and as I've said, every time just for clarity. I don't care about the stats, but I do care about them. I don't lose sleep over them, but I'm really interested to see what makes a difference with YouTube and how this thing all works, basically. So I'll come into my little screen sharing thing for a moment and I'll show you my YouTube dashboard. I haven't watched that yet, Geoff, by the way. I saw that she'd done a demo, but I haven't actually watched it. So yes, I did find out the other day, actually, because I've been doing... I'm going to create a whole series of Zoom videos as well for people who are using Ecam with Zoom. But then there's lots of features in Zoom that people just aren't aware of. But one of the things you can do in that is actually run slides sort of in the background as well. So you could actually run a... like a keynote presentation in the background, but then have you over the top of it. Sort of similar to some of the things that we do with Ecam, actually. So it was just an interesting little Zoom feature that I wasn't really aware of, to be honest with you. Not obviously you run them as a slideshow, but actually have you over the top of them. So I'll be making a little video about that one as well. But yeah, I'll have to watch Cat's video. She's great, she is. So yeah, this is my little analytics page. I'll come to that one. So if I could just go to the live time. So two weeks ago, I had a sudden little spike after one of the videos. It was a video about the latest beta release, beta release. And so that you can see just down here. That was basically two weeks ago. There was this little spike upwards. Can you see that? All right. A little bigger. There we go. And what's happened since then is there was a spike up, but then it never really went back down to where it started. And if I'll go to my watch time, you can see that's been a bit more erratic, but that's that peak of that particular video that just happened to do, you know, get a large number of views. And then my subscribers had a peak then as well. Now, whilst the views have remained high, I have been since then also, because, you know, you're supposed to change one thing at a time. Well, I did, I changed lots of things all at the same time. Over the same weekend, I did that video. I changed the look and layout of my scenes and things like that. Not that I don't think would have made a huge difference to viewership. But then I also updated all of the descriptions on every video using the TubeBodyBulkEdit feature. I don't think that that would have made a huge difference to the actual watch time or people finding it, because it was mainly kind of like the footer information at the bottom of the video, rather than the actual, you know, anything that would have been searchable or anything like that. And I didn't update the tags either. So I don't think that that would have had a huge effect on anything really. It was more just a case of, you know, encouraging people to connect and things like that. And there was some, I'd still got my affiliate links and things like that in there, but then also some Amazon links and stuff like that. So just as an experiment to see what happens if you actually are more active about including that sort of information in your video descriptions at the bottom. But I did obviously also start my little shorts experiment. And I was putting out three shorts a day last, not this week, but the week before. So that is why, I guess, that the number of views remained high, because there was basically four times as much content going out. So, you know, even if people don't watch it all, then there's more to be found. But that also explains why, although the videos remained high, the actual watch time, because these are all obviously one-minute videos, sort of dropped down during that week. But it has sort of spiked back up. And you can see that, I'll get these little boxes out of the way. You can see that there is a sort of like, if I was to draw a little trend line on there, it's too early to say, but there is more of a sort of upward trend and I've had a few other days of spiked figures. It's getting annoying. This is this one that just keeps coming over the top. By the way, I don't know if you're aware, when you're looking through your YouTube stats like this, you get these little boxes at the bottom. And that basically tells you what videos you've released at that point. So you can see, like up to here, it will tell you the videos that were released around that time as we go back over these dates. And you can see basically how many have come out in the run-up to that. Sorry, I just got distracted by a comment then. I'll come back to that comment, Geoff. So, yeah, you can see what videos were the ones that actually caused the spike, really. And then subscribers. Basically, since last week, I've increased by 50 subscribers. Now, that's the biggest jump that I've had in any single week, I think. It's always used to be sort of like 20 or something like that. 20 to 30. So there's definitely been, it seems that the videos have been found more or discovered more, I guess, because there is this sort of like uptick in the number of subscribers as well. So that is partly to... Let me have a look down here. I can see... Let me have a little look down here. There's somewhere... I'll come onto this in a minute, because there is a place to... where I can see how many have been served by search and stuff, but I'll just come onto a couple of points here. So, first of all, Geoff, do you do parallels with Zoom? Need it for a PC-only photo club competition judging program, which uses two monitors. I don't use parallels with Zoom, actually. I've never tried that. I have used parallels before, but I don't do that. So the question is, can you use it where you've got a second monitor that's running parallels and share that? Is that the question? If so, that's a good question. As a pose, it could do. If that is the question, if you mean running it on a Mac and you've got parallels running, but you want to share something on the other screen, I'm not sure. The parallels has got that thing. Is it called Continuity Mode or something like that, where it appears that your apps are running in the Mac almost, so that you can have them on your usual regular desktop. So if that is the question, which I'm just guessing, then, yeah, you probably could do it like that, but I've not tried it. But let me know if that's the question and we'll try to figure it out. So, Chris, if I'm honest, I prefer your longer videos. Shorts are, well, too short. You know what? All the shorts that I made were originally for TikTok. So the idea was that I was going to post them to TikTok in order to basically grow the YouTube audience by posting on TikTok to attract YouTube viewers from TikTok, which is why all of the videos that have gone out so far, because I'm just repurposing those videos, at the end of it, you'll see them say, I'll say, you know, check out my YouTube channel. Well, obviously you're on the YouTube channel. Now, my thing with it, originally I was thinking about creating a completely separate YouTube shorts channel where I was just going to have the shorts and then it would be, it would basically prompt people to go over to my main YouTube channel. And then I watched the thing with Doc Rock and Keely, Keely Dunn, on one of Doc's streams where she made the point of why would you have a separate channel for shorts where you are then making it difficult, in fact, for people to find your main content, because you've actually got, you're adding friction to it, basically, for them to find your main content. So I thought, right, well, that needs to, that's a very good point, isn't it? If you create a separate channel, then there's just like extra friction involved for people to find it. So I thought, right, well, okay, I'll do it on my main channel. So then I started posting, not last week, but the week before, I started posting three a day, because I'd watched a Deanimin or Nicknimin, I can't remember, one of the brothers. I think it was Nick, actually, and he'd said, you know, aim for three to five a day. So I picked three, because three's less than five, and I didn't want to be committing to having a, you know, having to create all of these, all of this content when I'm already doing, obviously, my one a day challenge and my long form stuff. So I thought, right, well, okay, I'll aim for three a day. And I'd got this backlog of, or this catalog rather, of my TikTok video. So that gave, gave me a sort of head start of it. So I started posting three a day, but in the back of my mind, I was always thinking, is this not just going to come across as like basically spamming the timelines or the, you know, the YouTube feeds of people who watch my stuff and who watch the longer form stuff as well. Because that's obviously what I tend to do. The, you know, tutorials and stuff like that. So I was always a bit conscious about that, to be honest. And then I kind of like had this sudden thought after, after being doing this for a week at the end of last week, which was not only is it just going to appear in people's timelines and they'd be like, oh, not this guy again. But also if people have got their notifications turned on, which I obviously encourage people to do, don't forget to like the video, subscribe to the channel and turn on notifications so that you get notified whenever I make a new video. Well, suddenly then there would be three shorts a day and also one long form video a day, average in theory. So that's four times a day that people are getting their little notifications saying that I've posted a new video. It's too much really for me to think about that. And then after my live stream last week, somebody who I respect a tremendous amount, Miss Eileen commented and said, or messaged me actually and just said like, oh, I'm just wondering, you know, why you chose three a day. And I said the same thing about, you know, Nick recommending it. And then I said, I was just wondering if it was going to be a bit too much. And she kind of just subtly gave me the impression that that might be what she was thinking as well. So if Eileen thinks that, then that's good enough for me. So that's why I toned it down last week to just one a day basically. So that's where we are at the moment, one short a day and also one long form video a day. And I'm going to see how that goes and just keep that going for, you know, a month or two to just judge actually what effect it has on it. But I do think that it has had an impact and that there is more discoverability coming from it because it is a different sort of source as well. There's a really interesting thing actually. In fact, if I come into my demographics. Yeah, I think that is a surefire way for me to have people turning off their notifications. Thanks, Greg, for the feedback. Appreciate it. Oh, Chris is saying you can use NDI to share Windows screens on e-cam. Right, yeah, good stuff. So, Jeff, the shorts are in fact a very useful little snippets. The shorts that I've got were kind of like, they were all actually a compression of a video that had a longer form video that I had done on YouTube. Now they're all out of sync with those because these were made for TikTok about a couple of months ago or whatever. But my idea with them was I'd made a long video and then this would be like a little short condensed version of it. And then I was, you know, sending people back to that video from TikTok. But what I'd thought was actually when I start making, you know, creating new shorts starting today, actually, is make them more, rather than trying to cram a long form video into a short form video, I thought that a good use case for it would actually be just really useful short little tips of, you know, 15 seconds to a minute, something like that. They do say that YouTube actually recommends that short should be 15 seconds. They allow you to do up to a minute, but they're recommending 15 seconds. So if that's what YouTube are recommending, it'll be really interesting to play around and I'll test some different lengths, like 15, 30, 45 in a minute, and just do a month of trying all those different lengths. And then we'll see at the end of the month which ones do actually get the most views, but also get served the most as well because YouTube are obviously going to make some decisions about what they're serving there as well. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see that, like I say, it's all just an experiment for me. This is, so we'll see how it goes, and it doesn't matter either way. As long as I don't offend anybody or make people annoyed, that's my, then I'm happy, so we'll see how it goes. But if I come into my channel analytics for a moment, whoops, wrong button, I'm on the wrong page of my stream deck. There we go. There was one thing that was just, was a little bit funny for me, where is it? It's in the audience demographics, right in the right place here. Engagement, is it? Have a look. I'll be in one place here. I'm looking for, it is in the audience, I think. I'm looking for the age of viewers. Here we go. If I go and have a look at September, there is 2.6% 18 to 24 year olds. But if I come in October, there's 12.3% 18 to 24 year olds. Isn't it funny that October is when I've started creating shorts. There is this massive jump in the number of, a number of young people watching my content. It's just funny that to me there's been that distinct gap, because not that I'm particularly aiming for that audience or anything like that. I'm not aiming for any audience in particular, just whoever finds it useful. But it was just really interesting that, it's like indicative of the way people consume content. Speaking of which, hey Sammy, one of my younger viewers, hope you're doing well today. But yeah, it's just really interesting that there has been that difference compared to the regular videos. The other thing that I noticed was, now I don't know if this is linked to that as well. Look at this, September, audience, male 98.3, female 1.7. And then if we come to October, 6.4, hello ladies. So I don't know what that is from, if that's from the related to the form of the content or not. But anyway, that's it. We do like the old long form way of doing things, but it's just interesting to observe these things from my point of view. So there was another thing that I noticed as a result of these videos. Oh, let me come to the actual sources of traffic. So that was from engagement, I don't know if it was from here. Engagement, one place. My head is still not with it, to be honest.  There's one, in fact, I'll tell you where it was. If you come into advanced mode, you can get a little bit more information. This might be where it was. So traffic source. And then if I change this to be for a lifetime. So traffic source, you can see there's two here that I'm looking at specifically. There's the browse features, in YouTube, but also YouTube search. Now what I can see here is my YouTube search, which is the green line, is sort of moving along fairly steadily. But then there is this sort of like optic in it here. So I'm guessing that I'm getting more views from people searching and things like that, which I mean, it sort of makes sense anyway, because if you're building up a back catalog, then there's more things for people to find you for. But there is a sort of distinct sort of change in that pattern just around here. It does seem to be that I'm getting served more in search results and things like that. So yeah, I'm going to stick my link up just now in case anybody would like to jump on and join me. There we go, I'll stick that up, my usual link. I've adjusted that lower third, by the way, Michael in Wrinkle City. So hopefully it doesn't get covered by that little subscribe overlay button, but there we go. There was something else I was going to talk about related to these stats though. Now what was it? I'm forgetting now in my early morning tired state this morning. There was definitely something else. Let me have a little look. Oh, I know what I was going to mention, I was specifically about the shorts and the number of views on them. So if I come back to my main stats, you can see here the sort of views that I get for my level of subscribers. So I've got 500 and whatever it is now. That's pretty low that is. The other thing I did was I changed all of my thumbnails. So anything that's a short now is red. So it makes it stand out in people's timeline. They can see more clearly which it is. If you're not interested in shorts, then you can just see clearly which ones they are in your timeline. The yellow ones will always be my longer form stuff. And then the red are the shorts. I might do the same with live streams actually, because some people prefer just a specific thing on topic rather than a long live stream that might cover lots of different things. It's just a different kind of video really. Let me have a little look at what Jeff's saying here. One thing noted, the red bar showing the percentage of a video watch sometimes just stops and doesn't catch up even when I've noticed that actually. Yes, I have noticed that myself as well, Jeff. The shorts match your attention span. There is a place for shorts to be honest. Obviously there's a lot of people who just make really ridiculous things that are just I suppose like the equivalent of clickbait on the shorts. If you see them, they're just just a little bit nonsensually. But if I make stuff that's just concise and quick tips sort of thing, then hopefully they will become part of the content that people actually want rather than the first lot of videos which were more intended to funnel people through to my main page. So I've got to just make it that it's all as relevant and useful in a short form where if someone's got a minute or two they can just watch one of them. But anyway, so these figures here, one thing I've noticed is and I have to play around with this and look at whether this is due to time and things like this, but the you can see that like that one stream that new features. So that's had 467 views. That's like I would consider at the moment like a high number. Usually the average is around about about something that's not a short. Then around about like the hundreds, 70s, 150, something in that range is what I usually get on my stuff. So that's like a lower one, 71. But then these are like 140.  But in general within like the first sort of week or two, then that's what I tend to expect 70 to 150, something like that. But if we look at these shorts then so you can see which ones they are. They're all these red ones. Some of these have done better than others. And there's no real reason why some should have done better than others right here. This is all a series. Now all of the tags, all of the descriptions and everything like that are all exactly the same. The only thing that's different is the thumbnails you can see are identical as well. The only thing that's different is this one says number one, number two, number three, number four and number five. But if you look at the number of views then we've got 299, 242, 127, 37 and this one 57. So they're all quite random. Part of that will be the time they've been served, so they've been put out. So these were at the time when I was doing three a day. So basically eight hours apart. So sometimes a day may have been better than others. Same with this one we've got these green screen or stream deck tips as well. Those are a bit hit and miss. But what you can see is the numbers on some of them, the ones that do better are all actually higher than I would normally get. So it does seem that the shorts do get, can get a bit more traction or they maybe get served. Perhaps it's just a lack of I don't use the word competition, but other videos in this space maybe people aren't making these sorts of shorts and so the people who do see them that want them watch them more, I don't know. It's all just speculation at the moment. But it is, like I say, it's still a bit hit and miss with those. So this one's only 22. Who knows really, I did notice with Tiktok that that was very very random and some of those I put them up and within an hour I'd got 1,500 views or something like that whereas other ones I've been up and in the whole time that they've been there I've had like seven. So it's really sort of hit and miss with those. So I'm not really too short but I will be making more of the shorts and then I'm going to start putting those on to Tiktok as well again. I've really got to start looking at things like Instagram and stuff like that as well. We'll see how that goes. I'm interested in Twitter for video as well. So I've started streaming this so I stream to, I know everyone here I think is on YouTube just looking at my little icons. I think there's everybody's on YouTube but I do stream it to Twitch as well.  It feels like I'm just streaming it there because I can through restream which I don't know is a good idea or not. I do get people go back and watch those sort of after the fact but then I'm also streaming to YouTube and Facebook obviously and I do sometimes every week there'll be some people watch on Facebook and after the fact people go and watch it there as well. But I'm also now for this week and last week streaming to Twitter as well. So we'll see how that goes. I've not done much with that but I do want to sort of think about perhaps doing sort of different content to these different platforms and YouTube always being the primary one but then maybe there's a place for some other sort of content going to other locations. So not really sure about that. It's still all just an experiment but speaking of Twitter I have still been doing my Tweet 100 little challenge to basically keep me active on Twitter and not just be pumping out things automatically and cross posting stuff. So just being a little bit more conscious on that. I don't want it to become overwhelming. It can so too easily sort of sock you in all these different platforms. So I am very conscious about the time I spend on it but it's been good just sort of getting back into that. So not being on Twitter for well since 2008 or something like that. Just interesting to see what we see here. I've seen Matt there obviously quite a lot. I say obviously it's obvious to Matt but yeah my my new Twitter buddy. So yeah that is basically the sort of summary of what I have managed to deduce from my last week. Like I said I've not had a huge amount of time to think about it or consider doing things differently but I will be now spending this weekend creating a whole series of videos for the coming week on my shorts and then also I'm going to start pre-recording some of my content rather than just doing one a day because I've got a few things. I know Chris I'll see you there as well yes. Sorry I do notice you on Twitter as well. So yeah that's what I've been up to this week. The other thing which I think I can say I think I can say this. I've just been added as a moderator in the EECAM live group so I'm really pleased about that and yeah nothing's going to change as such it's just that I'm now officially a moderator so I've always loved being in the EECAM group and helping people out and you know helping them get to basically get more out of the software and use it and so things like the you know the overlay templates and stuff like that. It's just nice to help people with what they're trying to achieve with the EECAM so it's just very nice to be part of the team officially now so I'm really really pleased about that and yeah Matt says I've got this in the wrong place now put it up there. Twitter can attract a new audience. Yeah it can it's just one of those things that you've got to grow I can indeed yes I've got some questions for you Paul because I want to learn from the master and Paul is the master moderator yeah so Twitter can obviously attract a new audience and it is true all of these platforms can attract a new audience but it's just another platform that you have to put the time in to grow your audience on that platform so yeah it's it's a balancing act isn't it I mean we had my first time ever being on a Twitter space with your Twitter space Matt talking about basically Twitter burnout so I definitely don't want that to happen but yeah it's one of those things isn't it really how much time do you devote to these things and if you take on all of these platforms like that I mean I've mentioned Twitch so I had Twitch and I did have an idea when I started this channel that I was going to start doing some separate content onto there and try and grow an audience there but it's just too many places that you could potentially be so yeah we'll have to see I'm just going to put a little bit of time into Twitter and start to be a bit more conscious about what I'm putting and I am getting a few more followers on there compared to when I was just literally automating cross posts of videos and things like that so you have interest and see how that goes oh thanks Jeff I appreciate that and I'm glad you like them or I don't know about that I would not dare say that for a moment Adrian's awesome I really like Adrian he's an awesome job so I'll take that comment down oh thank you Matt oh well thank you very much with the Twitter stuff I'm kind of like not too sure exactly of the sort of things that I'm posting on there they're a combination of things really it's I think it's good if you've got a specific a specific I was going to say a specific voice but like a specific use case for things like this and mine's all it feels to me at least a little bit haphazard at the moment in terms of what I'm posting and with the tweet 100 some of it is like I'm actually having to think about something as opposed to just like oh that's it when I was using Twitter before I had a very clear use case for it you know 12 years ago whatever it was it was actually longer than that wasn't it it was 13 years ago and I had a very clear thing that I was using it for and so I'd just be um I always just knew that this is what I'm going to be posting there whereas I'm still sort of figuring out how to actually use it effectively with what I'm doing on the channel and so it is uh yeah it's more about um uh member requests would be great if you could share more about your routine is that on Twitter or just in general here uh oh thanks Chris I appreciate that and I'm glad you glad you find it useful and oh by the way I uh I hope you've downloaded that template if you haven't let me know and I'll ping you a copy over because um uh yeah I know you know what you're planning to do and with the new beta or beta uh beta to you in the UK um yeah we can now just make all about all of our scenes so I was definitely thinking about you when I was making that that template because I know that it'll help with creating all of your scenes um so um yeah well so if that's uh if you want if you want to know my routine I'll just run you through my routine my routine is quite quite simple I wake up at three I do my morning meditation I've got my little journal here that I write in every day about uh what I've done and then also uh for short you mean my morning routine for short right I'll just finish it anyway just quickly and then I sort of plan out my day what I'm going to do and that takes me up till four o'clock I have my uh my two cups of coffee uh and then I have my third and fourth cup of coffee waiting and then uh so four till six is when I make my uh my videos I'm actually going to make a video of um like actually the whole process from start to finish of um so it'll be like I'll record the whole thing but then part of the middle I'll just extract which will be an actual video that I've made so it'll show you like what I do and how I sort of plan things because there isn't really a lot of planning but I do have a process that I go through in terms of looking at my video list picking out which one I'm going to do and then sort of thinking about it and arranging my screen to be you know if I'm using a particular app or something like that then I'll have those things in uh put those things in the right place then record the video then after the video I've got a another set of actions that I do and I have like a um uh a keyboard maestro uh a keyboard maestro um uh I was just laughing at Rich's comment hi Rich uh and then um oh hi Terry oh hi Sue as well all right let me just say a few hello's hi Rich uh looking forward to the shower shots uh uh I'm not quite sure there's a reference to actually let me think uh no I still haven't got that one I'll have to have a little think um oh it's great to see you here Sue uh really really pleased you found it useful and uh Terry as well I'm really pleased that you uh you're enjoying uh what I've uh what I've been creating it's been useful and by the way anybody if ever there's anything that hasn't been covered uh oh I see sorry I'm really slow too much today uh you might have missed it Rich but I'm a bit tired today I went to bed I went to bed quite late last night uh for me 11 o'clock um so I'll normally go to bed 8 and uh yeah I didn't have much much sleep so uh I shower um once a month on the uh the first of the month and I find that I'm good with that so there you go um um yeah so then so then I'm gonna make this video that's basically the the whole process of actually doing it where I show you the uh the the different routines and actions that I've got as part of the the process so I have a keyboard maestro um uh action and then this is linked to a stream that deck button so one button will basically open everything and put all the windows in the right place um and then uh I have another one when I've when I finish that closes everything down that needs to be closed down but then that uh it also opens up like all the windows that I need so my my file that I do make my um thumbnails in I've got another one that opens up with YouTube studio then I've got another one that opens up the uh the folders in uh Finder where I have the recording of e-cam live but then also it opens the folder where my thumbnail gets saved so just with the press of a button that's um that that sort of gets all all done really um the actual some nails themselves I've just got a template which is basically uh a load of uh cheesy pictures of me and then the the text and I just edit them in there and then save them as a png file and then that takes me sort of five five ten minutes something like that um so that's that's in terms of my process of making the videos is like that and then after that six o'clock my little uh my little boy is the first one to wake up normally Dale and then uh the girls are usually a little bit more lazy than him so I'll get up a little bit later uh speaking of Dale my son's called Dale and I've just noticed uh D7 Dale uh sorry I'm late to the party no problem uh is your name Dale or is that a reference to something else that'll be interesting um thanks Rich yeah that's why I'm banished to the basement let me out let me out and they let me out once a month to uh to shower so uh how to make coffee with the camera well I tell you what if you want to know how to make coffee you're asking the wrong man you need to go to Keith Pelzer he is the coffee master his uh his siphon coffees there's a few videos from him on uh on ecum life uh oh hi Collie nice to uh nice to see you um and do I make my thumbnails in Canva I don't actually I make them in Photoshop which is probably not the best place to do it although it's just what I've uh I've got the muscle memory so I know how to use that so that's what I do in fact I could probably just quickly show you if I open Photoshop uh let me have a little look uh so uh yeah Jeff more information on the way in the windows are organized beforehand it's one of my videos I'd meant to make this last uh last week actually but um uh all the week before last but then I just didn't get around to it uh more detail on the way windows are organized beforehand would be useful how can I get three windows outline red borders uh that uh how I'm just trying to reread this I'm very sorry I'll just hi Jim I'll say quick hello good to see you here uh uh welcome to the club Jim I've been on zoom all week so yeah it's good to get out I don't know I don't know who you're on a zoom call with um but uh it always astounds me the uh the image quality that people have on their zoom call so I've been in a meeting all week with uh you know some business leaders should we say and uh their picture quality was atrocious and I just think why do people not put a little bit more effort into their picture quality uh I'm still not getting this comment though Jeff uh more detail on the way windows are organized beforehand would be useful so yeah I've got I'll I'll make a video all about that because I use moon uh to organize the windows and then you couldn't assign keyboard shortcuts so I can get everything the way I want it and then I've got keyboard shortcuts for when I'm using ecamm live for recording different one for when it's uh streaming um or different ones for when I'm using ecamm with zoom and things like that so I'll definitely be making a video about that I'm not quite sure about this last part though how can I get three windows outline red borders showing up on monitor one uh yeah I'll have to I'll have to get back to you on that I'm not too sure uh so I'll just quickly show you though my um uh my photoshop yeah that it amazes me because people will say um your video looks you know so good compared to everybody else um and like to me on zoom calls and things like that and you definitely have more um uh it's almost like you have more authority in a meeting if you have a better picture quality and sound quality somehow because you just can be seen and heard a lot better and it's not a strain to listen I mean it might be a strain to listen to my old-headed white whining voice I don't know but um uh there's uh you know when when you're having to work mentally to get over somebody's poor image quality or poor audio quality or can't hear what they're saying there's loads of background I mean yesterday there was somebody where they'd just got this really loud uh background noise of some fan or something like that that was like literally drowning them out so they they literally couldn't be heard properly so you you get distracted from what they're uh what they're saying so um so on the one hand people comment and you know can kind of see conceptually that it is better to have better image in uh audio quality and yet at the same time that it still goes on and they still don't make an effort necessarily to to just upgrade anything about their their system so I don't know it's I suppose it's a lack of knowledge really that's uh that causes it so there you go uh oh that is yes yeah the the camera on the desk looking up at them is uh yeah that's always a good one the other one is the green screen as well while we're while we're complaining about people on zoom meetings where people use uh green screen but they'll have like the the tropical beach background behind them it's a novelty and it's it is it is novel isn't it the very first time I remember being able to toggle a green screen on and say oh I've got a beach behind me but in a day-to-day sort of meeting scenario it's not entirely appropriate is it and it's also not when uh when they've got the they're not actually using an actual green screen but it's kind of like that virtual green screen effect where they um they're just sort of basically cropping out the the room background so they've they've got the uh the the beach video background playing behind them but then also it's sort of cropping off half of their face that's disappeared as well for some reason and then it's also showing part of the background of their room in the in the shot as well it's just uh it'd be better to just turn it off and just do the blurred background effect in zoom so that always makes me laugh as well uh hi Hassan um I am using ecamm uh also uh to pin messages uh oh yeah so I'm using ecamm yeah so to bring the messages in I'm using ecamm uh so it's I'm streaming through restream.io to youtube to uh facebook uh to twitch and to twitter and then all of the comments get aggregated in ecamm live so there's a comments and reactions uh panel the fact since you asked let me just quickly uh show you because we could do this with ecamm uh so here you go I've got this little window here that's basically uh all of the uh the the comments that are coming in and this shows me in a little corner I can see whether it's a twitter uh youtube or uh facebook or whatever uh now I've also actually got the youtube chat popped out because most people in here are in youtube most people watching this are watching live at the moment on youtube I do get people going back and watching on other things um but I've also got the the uh the the youtube chat popped out because if you're using ecamm live then uh this little chat box here um if you're only streaming to one location like youtube or twitter or whatever then um there is actually a chat box at the bottom that you can interact and you can chat back into it but because I'm coming through restream uh you don't have that one because where would it send the chat would it would it put my message into all of them or just one or just the other so what I've done is I've also popped out the um just only the youtube chat because as I say most people are watching live on youtube so I've just got the the youtube chat popped out from the uh the browser in chrome uh so that means that if I want to uh put a link or something in that like that in there then I can just uh type in there and it will just pop into the chat um but yeah I am using ecamm live and uh it is a green screen yes so uh just to prove it there we go that's my actual background uh so uh yeah I'm uh yeah so actually it's on a it's a 43 inch phillips so uh that's my uh screen by the way um uh 43 inch phillips that I'm uh it's my monitor so uh I've never really been one for the the ultra widescreen monitors um because uh I mean technically this is kind of like two widescreen stacked on top of each other but I've always had this is basically like I suppose uh maybe four like 21 and a half inch uh monitors that are just in a sort of 2x2 grid pattern and I just find it's a lot a lot better this way than an ultra widescreen and what it allows me to do actually since we're talking about this is like if I come into this um I should probably have some different uh uh different apps open but like if I'm working on a document for example then I could have like let's say that this was a word document I could have a word document open here but then I might have like this one up here I've got various different layouts for this and zoom uh moon helps me do all of that but I could have like that like that you know you can have this big long central uh central panel um but then also I do stuff with uh a lot of data stuff so I'm one of the companies that I'm involved in is a like basically we do trading uh so that I do a lot of stuff with um uh spreadsheets and uh data analysis so I have like Excel spreadsheets that will easily run all the way to the end like this uh so I can have like data down here but then have different you know maybe I'm doing some research or something like that and so I've got a window up here or it just gives me a lot more versatility I find to have a regular aspect ratio monitor but that's just massive um so that's why uh that's why I use this one in fact while I've got this up though I will just show you I mentioned about my thumbnails to Chris and I'll make these so this is basically uh um my uh Photoshop thumbnail uh so I put my big face on the screen there uh but basically I've just got a whole series of different um images down the side and I can just toggle those on and off uh that one I haven't actually edited but uh there we go I've got different ones like pointing to the side I've labeled them as well so I've got like either pointing to the side straight ahead and all these sorts of things that are basically different pictures and I just toggle them out and then I just go in here and change the uh uh my uh my title there we go if I can spell uh so that's as as quick as it takes me to actually make a thumbnail I just go and edit the text in here I've got a series of um images of products and things like that so if I come down here uh like my facecam uh various different products so I can just click those on and add them in so those are all things that I've done videos about before and that's sort of my process for uh creating uh my uh my thumbnails so uh that's how I do that Chris oh hey obs I've just noticed sorry I've not been looking at the comments nice to see you uh nice to see you here uh now where's my interview window one second it's somewhere I heard the a little bing bong but I can't find it's because I've moved all my windows around that's the issue and uh I'll find it it's somewhere hiding my little interview window to answer as uh as just disappeared I think it might be is it there ah I got it let me come here one second I shall add Paul in to guest number one whoops and here whoops I've got to change this now bear with me one moment Paul hang on let me come to this for a moment we'll get there in a moment Paul why is that not letting me change that something something going on it I tell you what I'll just come into here for a moment instead ha ha good to see you Paul how are you doing good you're sounding very good on your new mic yes I thought I would crash your your stream well you're always welcome how's how's everything going for you this week not bad have you been watching the people with video stuff I've not actually watched any of that yes um yeah I've got too many sounds of you coming through my head oh okay got to toggle off some some of the browser sound or something oh I can't hear you can I hear you no I can't hear you at the moment it says that guest has muted themselves so it might be it might be muted in the browser perhaps is that better it is better yeah is your sound right can you hear me or is it you still getting duplicate I've got sorry I have the original version of you playing and so it's ah right right massively delayed right right no I'm doing good yeah I've been watching the people of video stuff and kind of keeping an eye on things over there having fun making sure they're all doing what they should be and then I had to welcome you to the mass of moderators oh well thank you very much and you're the master that I hope to learn from so yeah now you always amazing to be honest in keeping people in check and like especially through the leap into live as well yeah doing amazing amazing work yeah this is the first time I've jumped on a stream with anybody so you're my my debut ah well that's that's that I'm honored I'm absolutely honored but I think I've been playing with the lighting and I've got my new mic and the roadcaster and everything so I just been checking to see how alright so I'm going around and seeing how things are working yeah yeah it sounds really good I like your lights in the background that you've got as well thanks yeah yeah they look really good I had to do something with the white wall right I live in a very I live in a very small apartment so it's kind of fun trying to fit a shoehorn in a box yeah it's funny though on video like how things can like I always think about Doc's room he it looks a lot bigger than it actually is you know and then he'll turn around and just almost reached back to the computer behind him but yeah it's quite funny the way it works like that I mean I'm I'm literally I can touch touch the back wall where I am so I'm in quite a small I'm pretty close to that too yeah my bed is right behind me so it's like right I did have a question for you okay I got one of one of the t3 teleprompters that yes yeah and I have a zv-e10 camera yeah and there isn't amount that fits the zv-e10 right right that's interesting like a 40 a 40.5 or something like that lens right what do I do yeah is that the the kit lens or is it a that's exactly the next camera that I was thinking of buying so it's an interesting conversation this is I'm not sure if you can get is there is there any place to actually put like an adapter ring on it like a they have like a filter yeah I'm wondering then if there is a like a an adapter ring that you can get that will upsize that also you know to be a different one because I know if people if people buy you know filters and things like that presumably they might have a collection of filters that they want to use on a different camera or something that's what I was thinking but I thought well I asked you and see if you yeah I got it and I was like this doesn't work right right yeah well I'm using my old 10 year old Canon EOS 60D still so yeah but the zv-e10 is the one that I would go to when I do upgrade my camera so I'm thinking that there must be but it was something that was in my mind because I didn't even know if it had any ring on it at all or whether it'd be just a it's a zoom as well isn't it I think it's like the zv-1 doesn't have it you have to get that white angle adapter in order to make it work run this one I had it and I thought okay I'm going to put it all together now and it was like uh oh so I'm using my my old little iPad an old one that I had is kind of my little camera view screen yep that's a quick look at camera filter adapter ring so there is a whole series of adapter rings for changing the sizes so I think it would just be a case of getting the the right the right size uh yeah so there is actually so what size was it on the zv-10 I think it's a hang on I have to look at it it looks like it says 40.5 40.5 I think that's a 40.5 or 45.5 right it's 45 right there so there are definitely one of these but this one I'm probably sharing the wrong portion of my screen there you go there is uh there is adapter ring sets so um obviously you wouldn't necessarily want the whole set but presumably you can get the the one that would adapt it up to a different size okay I'm not seeing that exact size but yeah so I just did a search for camera filter filter ring adapter set yeah that was going to be my next round is like looking for maybe an adapter ring or something yep yeah I'm sure I'm sure there will be because it's it I'm sure we're not the first one to have the the issue and like people buy you know they have like filters and things like that don't they that they're going to want to use on different cameras so I've never actually got into photography I bought this camera 10 years ago just before the birth of our first daughter thinking that I was going to it totally seems like it should be something that's you know up my street in terms of a bit of technology there's lots to learn about it it's a gadget you know it's the ultimate gadget almost but then I don't think I've taken you know more than I want to say 20 pictures not in auto mode in all that time and then when you know camera phones and stuff came about that had much better cameras then you know I would be reaching for that rather than you know a DSLR camera so it's been good to be able to repurpose it for this stuff over the past year or two yeah I my problem recently is I've added so many different things that I haven't had chance to read all the instruction books so oh that would put me in the corner and tell me to go read but yeah slowly working through that yeah well I'm on for that I tend to be I tend to just dig straight in and try and figure everything out try all the buttons and that's usually my approach and so how are you finding the ZV-10 though have you been using it I actually like it I haven't had it I got one and it was supposed to be new and it ended up being an open box and a bunch of the stuff that was supposed to come with it wasn't in the box they sent me a new one so now I finally have one so I've only had it for a few days that I've been playing around with but I actually like it it's it's really nice yeah I just need now I'm going to go out and take pictures around the the town yeah but I've been trying to figure it out reading watching videos and reading stuff yes yeah yeah it's it certainly looks a lot more portable than this this one that I'm using it looks nice nice size nice and light yeah Tom Buck can probably make you one with his 3D printer a filter adapter that is a good point I'm sure you probably could do that actually yeah Chris is asking for a link to my monitor do you know what I meant to make a video or I was planning on making a video about this monitor but it isn't available I don't think it's available in the US and it's also not available in the in Europe I think let me just I'll show you which bit monitor is though Chris just since you were asking this one so here it is it's a Phillips what's the model number 438P1 is the the model number of it and yeah it's rather than I know a lot of people use TVs for monitors but I didn't want to use a TV because they're not technically designed for that they've got different refresh rates and things like that whereas this is actually a it's intended to be a monitor rather than a TV so it's got a couple of display port inputs and then also HDMI as well but it is yeah it's more of a monitor as opposed to TV but I just like the aspect ratio of it it's just a it is just a regular aspect ratio screen that is 4k so it's it's kind of like for HD monitors in 2x2 layout so yeah it's pretty pretty pretty large but I have it on a rolling TV stand as well so rather than it being sitting on the desk because I'd be worried about a screen that size just sitting on its little legs so I've got it mounted onto a one of those rolling TV stands so it means that I can actually move it around because for some of the videos I do I do I do use them in different formats so sometimes I'll be doing a video standing up not for this channel obviously but for those it just means I can just wheel the whole thing around and then do a video in a different format or move it out to the way it's also good for cleaning as well just move it out of the way and then sweep up underneath it so yeah that's that's that I'll drop a link actually to that in the chat if you want Chris if you want to have a little look yeah my like is that it would knock it off my desk that'd be the first thing I'd do I am I'm very careful and yet notoriously clumsy it jumped out there so Michael in the UK saying step down rings seen 92 millimeter what was your size again so there is a there is rings available what is what what is Paul stream at 1080 his picture is great oh so I'm at 4k right right I don't know I did actually change all this so yeah technically I'm streaming at 4k but you've got a good camera coming into it whereas I've got this one my old camera and it's coming in over USB as well so technically it'll be 720 but he comes then having to try and scale it up so yeah that'll be it that'll be why on that somebody found a ring yeah that's that's Michael in the we've got two Michaels we've got Michael Powell in wrinkle city us and then we've also got Michael in the UK as well I have I have I'll let my secret out I have a cheat sheet that I have together of people screen names and is right right that's a good that's a good plan because sometimes they slit my mind it happened actually last week with Jim so I corrected that this time Jim but when I see the name sometimes it's like my mind goes blank and then the more I think about it the further from my mind it seems to go so yeah basis I remember names names sometimes you know I'm old so things fall out of my brain I don't have as many active brain cells anymore that I used to have yeah I'm still terrible as well for like meeting somebody especially if it's like an inventor a function or something like that and you're meeting lots of people but then meet someone ask the name find out the name and then within two seconds it's gone straight out again and then yes find a better way of those in here and somewhere between here and here it falls out that's it yeah yeah I yeah I didn't it didn't slip my mind today Jim so I hold my hands up that's what happened last week I said hello great to see you here I just completely forgotten last week so so what have you what have you got coming up in the week got anything planned in terms of your setup or live streaming or anything like that no I'm I'm working on coming up with my live stream so doc has kind of been twisting my arm and stuff so I'm going to do something part of this I'm trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up right yeah he did kind of throw out a Duncan without borders comment and he says you can talk about anything so I've grabbed that yeah I saw your Facebook header I thought that was it it made me laugh that did but it's going to be soon and I thought doing something like this too would also get me used to kind of talking I mean I talked in front of large groups of people before yeah and then training and stuff like that so it doesn't necessarily bother me but I don't know there's something about the camera and I know what you mean not real people out there yes yeah yeah I mean the first live stream that I did when I started this it was really weird just with zero subscribers looking into a lens and just talking and thinking who are talking to it's strange but then it doesn't take long for you know you get one or two or three or four people and then it suddenly that's who you're talking to and you know I'm not personally I'm not like aiming for millions or anything like that it's just a case of I'm just then having a conversation with you or with Michael or with Orbs or whoever it is and it's yeah and obviously with you being you know we all know you in the community and stuff like that it wouldn't be long before you know you just say oh this is when I'm going live and we'd be watching and then you'd just be talking with those at the end of the day so it's been kind of funny because not a lot of people have ever actually seen me you know they've seen my little you know icon and stuff like that but like Anna and Fultons during leaping live they were going I did one of the pictures and I go which one's you which one's you oh right right now I'm exposing myself yes yeah yeah yeah I suppose that is funny because we see each other every day every week in Doc's group and that so yeah it is funny it was funny when they posted, Ekam posted a picture of June as well because he's obviously just got a total avatar and you know covered face that was funny when they outed him yes in the moderated group the man behind the mask that's it yeah but I mean I thought your video in leader I know that what happens in leader stays in leader but it was it really made me laugh your video yeah yeah I actually thought about posting that on my page yeah just because it was you know I mean a lot of people have came back and said that's how I felt and it's like yeah well it is it really captures the you know the thought about it and so I've obviously been on YouTube for however long it is now not that long but the first time I did a live on Facebook was a few years ago that was just to my Facebook followers or whatever you want to call it there and that was I was using Facebook for a business purpose and so it was the first time I'd done a live and I remember being like really anxious about it for you know it probably took me an hour or something just to to press the button it's really a weird sort of thing conceptually if you step back from it and think about like like you say you know you're happy to stand up on in front of people and talk or meet new people things like that but there's something about it being in front of the camera which can be quite sort of quite daunting so your video and lead it really sort of captured that that sort of that emotion it was fun yeah yeah it took me forever to I kept going over at my head and going over at my head and then I finally walked over there to do it and it was kind of like I'm like looking around for people and when I actually started people started walking by I was like what the heck yeah yeah definitely post that somewhere because it would I'm sure it'd resonate with a lot of people as well and they'd certainly find it funny like I did so it was a very well thought out little thing anyway I was just going to pop in and say hi and quash your stream well you're always welcome it's lovely that you did and that orbs is saying that do it as well cool so there we go we got a bit of peer pressure going on now I'm going to have to Jim's not going to be at LGL stream tomorrow yeah I'm wondering actually will there be a thing tomorrow will there be an office hours tomorrow with Doc said that class if he did it it was going to be late I don't think he's going to do office hours just because they're going to be in sessions at that point so I'm I would be surprised if he did but he said if he did class it would be at least an hour late okay right that's good to know so I don't wake up extra early and then that's twiddling my thumbs thanks for stopping by Chris yeah yeah it's I appreciate you staying up Chris it's past midnight in the UK so yeah I appreciate you staying up I'm going to go out the back door so thank you very much you take care too it's lovely to see you and thanks for stopping by see you again cheers so Michael is saying for some reason he's oh that's good Rich yeah well I can yeah if Doc's not available and is he's not got a zoom thing I can easily just drop a zoom thing into the into the LGL group or something like that I can no problem to set up a zoom meeting if you want to Rich and unofficial office hours yeah quite Michael I'm not sure what's happening with your your link then if you can't can't join it'd be great to have a little chat with you I know that you've been busy working on some things over the thing there we go then we've got a we've we've sorted it we'll have a meeting tomorrow so if Doc is not available I'll let I'll message him I'll find out and then if not then I'll just drop a zoom link or something into the LGL group myself a little note yeah I've got an account that we can go indefinitely so it while I say indefinitely you know I'll probably won't try it for a year on non-stop but yeah I've got an account that we can we can set it up on so that's the problem it was indeed it's lovely to speak to you Paul because we see each other every week in office hours but obviously we don't get time to chat so yeah that might be it someone chewed the cable Michael yeah be good to have a chat Michael so I know that you've been busy this week getting some things ready for your live stream as well with your scenes and stuff like that Michael and I have a little bit of a backwards and forwards during the week with sending videos to and from each other but this week I was a bit slow and I wasn't able to respond to some of them just because of my my hectic zoom marathon right so yeah I'll let I'll message Doc and find out and then I'll drop it in the LGL group so yeah no problem yeah be weird that will having a little private group meeting with with obviously Rob will be at people video as well you never know they might still find time to pop in but yeah will be good how are you getting on Michael have you managed to figure out the the link at all wonder why that could be let me just have a little quick test on my side and see if it's just down everybody or not try it in here I wonder it's not my yet no I definitely want to run over on my time limit what I'm thinking about this weekly seems to be working on mine don't know from what if it's on them if it's on the to do with the browser but it seems to be working on mine on Safari and on Chrome as well so I'm not sure what is going on there yeah not to not too sure we'll have to remember to record the zoom meeting by the way as well because I know that that's it made me laugh at something that last week or the week before and somebody just mentioned it we just had like an hour longer meeting and then somebody mentioned it and then is it's not working now higher education edu tech higher edu tech what's your name by the way so that I can try and get that right in future higher edu tech it was not working so we were trying to join as well were you on the the join link let me see I should be I should be more of a professional really shouldn't I and talk while I'm looking as well oh Greg that's easy to remember I say that's easy to remember because we've got another Greg so if everyone could just have the same name in the in the in the chat it would be it would be good ah yeah I have Carly I literally just started doing that for the past two videos so um yeah obviously Facebook doesn't want you to post or would prefer you not to be posting stuff there where you're basically just posting a link to a YouTube video so in TubeBuddy Legend yeah you can basically I'll just quickly show you how to do it just in case anybody I did mention it last stream but just in case anyone was unaware which is part of my screen in my sharing let me move that down there so if you are in your YouTube studio and you've got TubeBuddy Legend level then there's this little drop down here and basically you can come down here and then you can go publish to Facebook and what this does is it brings up this little window and it'll take all of your title and your description and the thumbnail and then all you have to do is you just have to click on choose file and then you can select the the actual the same video file that you'd uploaded to Facebook at a YouTube and then go publish to Facebook and then it basically publishes the video as a native video to Facebook without you having to obviously go into Facebook but also adding all of this stuff so I did I did do that yeah with my last last couple of videos and I'm going to start doing that on an ongoing basis and they did get more views that there's definitely more people have watched it so obviously there's people on my page are going to see my Facebook videos but also it will just be being served to other people as well so yeah I'll let you know how that goes but it should in theory create more traffic from being native on Facebook but I'll let you know how it goes earlier it said it was misconfigured then a moment ago it was working that's interesting Greg ah you're in Singapore ah great that's some some people on this side of the world yeah that's my zoom meetings all last week we were with people in Singapore actually so yeah so there's Greg and Matt is in Vietnam as well also in the chat so we've got a little Asian continent contingent in the in the ECAM group there's a few of us actually in Thailand as well I was quite surprised I found out that Dean and Nick live in Thailand as well so it turns out you can still be an active part of the YouTube community from over here I don't know why you ever thought you wouldn't be able to but it had at times felt like I'm a little bit remote from everything psychologically although obviously that's the beauty of the ECAM group and Doc Rock's group office hours group and stuff like that is we all just one big family aren't we really wherever we happen to be in the world so so Greg what are you doing with with ECAM are you using ECAM then for your stuff and what are you working on I'm guessing something to do with tech in education have I assumed right by the name yeah I've never it's funny I've done a lot of things with people in Singapore but I've never actually been to Singapore even though it's only I think about two hour flight away something like that so I was supposed to be going but then it was around the time that last year COVID hit and then I didn't end up going but just been working with some people there so you're not actually oh right well okay then I won't hold that against you um OBS has got lots more lots more features in many respects and I suppose can do a lot more things the reason why I ended up on ECAM interestingly is because I did start on OBS but I was doing it on a really old on a really old Mac and it just OBS I found was struggling with what I was trying to get it to do on my old hardware so it wasn't OBS's fault it was my hardware fault but then I found ECAM and it found that it worked at it worked really well even on my old old Mac and I've since upgraded my systems and that yeah that's how I ended up on ECAM and it was just actually at it was when was it now I forget exactly the month but I saw Doc Rock on Mac Break Weekly which is something I've been watching for over a decade now actually about 16 years or however long it's been going and yeah I saw him on there talking about ECAM and yeah that's how I sort of got into it and I've just fallen in love with it and loved it ever since oh you're at the Singapore University right and musician on the side I've found that students really a lot I like my audio gear in remote teaching yeah it's a thing isn't it really everything's just online and yeah so people are using got good audio are already one step ahead oh hey Justin good to see you here I teach remotely using Windows and Linux so OBS works fine yeah I mean it's got all the features hasn't it so it's great we're all burning the midnight oil yeah so what time is it where you are then Jim I'm not sure I'm aware that the Hawaii time zone I'm quite got that one in my sort of my memory I suppose Doc is alright yeah I'm just thinking so office hours is normally 4 a.m. so it must be about is it about one o'clock in the afternoon something like that for you there yeah I can't quite get my head around that one at the moment oh there we go half past one I was I was almost right yeah Hawaii somewhere I've never been before as well but yeah I have to make a trip there someday if not just to shake Doc's hand and your hand of course Singapore's got to be the cleanest place on earth yes three hours behind you in California yeah yeah Singapore is it's supposed to be a very nice city they were voted to have the highest sort of perceived quality of life so like what were people reported if they reported like their happiness on all these different scales and all these different levels of things like that then it was one of the it was the top I believe at one point Thailand at one point at the highest level of internet connectivity and people actually online so not necessarily the fastest but the highest proportion of the population that were actually on online and also the highest usage of social media by time like in a given day people were spending more time on social media here but yeah for those that don't know I'm in Thailand I absolutely love it here yeah half a day yeah you're in the in between worlds half a day behind Europe yeah it's stepped on chewing on some spit out on the side but the first day I was being here hadn't happened since though what's your biggest YouTube tip lesson so far that's a little bit of a tricky one that is did you hear me there I was just actually tapping my little fingers on the desk thinking about that one I suppose it depends where people are coming from really no problem or great to see you great that you could drop by and yeah I'll drop the message in the chat about the office hours tomorrow I'll find out from doc and let you know um Stacey where's that going what is my biggest YouTube tip or lesson so far so again it really depends on where people are are coming from like as to what I would say if it's somebody who's saying like actually getting started so my whole thing is this little logo that I've got down here recovering perfectionist um my whole YouTube channel is an exercise in getting over perfectionism because previously with um stuff that I've done if it's something for my my own use like my personal stuff I would tend to sort of tweak things for far too long and it would be a barrier to me perfectionism is great it can be a real driver for quality because you're obviously striving for perfection and so if you fall slightly short of it then you're still at you know whatever percentage that whereas if you just strive for mediocrity then that's the best you're going to get basically isn't it so I do think that perfectionism as a tendency has a um a positive aspect to it um but it's where it becomes a barrier and actually holds you back from doing something because you don't actually ship it basically is the is the problem um so um so the the channel was all about me just getting over that really and just starting and getting on with it and being happy with being unhappy about it so uh I mentioned before that there was nothing really about my channel that I was entirely happy about I didn't like my overlay my overlays I didn't like my uh my thumbnails I still don't like my thumbnails by the way um but all of it you know my website and everything was just if I was doing it for a client I wouldn't ship it like that basically if I was doing you know because I do it's a bit hard to nail down exactly what I do to be honest but in the past I've had a various different roles um architectural design and construction website design graphic design things like that and all all sorts of different sort of creative roles um and but I find with client work somehow it's a lot easier to uh to get something that I'm happy with and then it's a case of asking them if they're happy with it and then that's that's it then it's done whereas with stuff that's purely for myself I tend to go over and over things quite a lot and uh it can be inhibitive in is that a word? is now um so so that was the thing about the youtube channel was just to sort of get going and start and so coming back to the thing about what's the biggest tip is talking to me because one of the things that Anna mentioned earlier as well when I did my first live stream so um which was five and a half months ago 15th of uh 15th of May um it was just that was the first video I did I set myself a a goal of um making 100 videos in the first 100 days on youtube um and the first one was a live stream to nobody because I started from zero um I've got like mailing lists of you know 10,000, 15,000 people from my uh business side which actually a lot of those people probably would benefit from what I'm doing because it's related to similar sort of stuff in a way um and then I've got you know facebook I could have posted on my personal facebook so there's a I think it's about 4,000 um friends uh I'll be honest I don't know them all personally so um uh yeah they're not my my closest friends they're all lovely and and and and people I know but not uh not intimately and some people are just like connected through connections of connections and stuff like that so I could have shared it on there as well but I specifically didn't and I didn't tell anybody that I was doing this because it's also an experiment in how you can grow a youtube channel because I thought there'd be some benefit in starting from zero not just bringing in an audience from somewhere else um or even just you know letting people know um so um so that was that was the the sort of thought process of it so then my first video was my live stream that I did to uh and it was all about I think it was titled live streaming with older gear or something like that because the other thing that I wanted to get over was you don't need the latest and greatest stuff so the first live stream I did I was streaming on a 2000 late 2013 MacBook Pro uh I am still using my Canon EOS 60D which is a 10 year old camera with the kit lens um the lights that I've got are basically just to um you know like the really low cost uh uh soft boxes that you can see on Amazon that they're like I don't know $50 or something like that for two of them with a stand and whatever so I was using those um and uh all of the the stuff that I used the only thing that I actually sort of invested in if you like is this uh the short mv7 microphone because I know that's important to have um you know good good quality audio at least um so that's the only thing that I sort of actually bought for it I suppose I bought the stream deck but I used that for productivity and stuff like that as well so it was an exercise in getting over myself just not having to be perfect from the start it was also a case of not using the latest gear and feeling like oh I've got to have this I've got to have that because a lot of people do feel like they've got to buy the latest camera the latest lens that you know they'll watch that I did watch all of Tom Buck's videos by the way uh and you know obviously doc stuff as well but Tom Buck I really love his stuff and he'll tell you how to set up a studio he also does obviously tell you the point of you don't need to have the latest and greatest but I think some people do watch people like him and they see his studio uh and they see you know all the the gear that he's got and they might think oh I need that to start so I was very conscious about the fact that I don't need that to start and then obviously with my studio which is just my green screen it's actually very very easy even the green screen so I've got that lit from the bottom it's just it is material but just pulled tight over a um PVC plumber's pipe frame that I made and then it's just material like stretched over it um but then I've got a light from the bottom that's up lighting it so it's got a really even color to it so it's stretched tight with an even color so it makes keying it out a lot easier so um uh that's a bit of a long answer really isn't it but the so what's my biggest youtube tip and lesson so far is just uh get over yourself and start and don't worry about um what people uh you know about who your your viewers are going to be as well because that was something that I was when I did my first stream it was the live stream to nobody uh and then I didn't really know who was going to be listening or watching but then slowly you know a few people started watching and then I was making a connection with people and as soon as you've got one or two people then that's who you talk to so another tip or lesson is if you are somebody who's uh maybe feel a little bit camera shy when you're talking into the camera it's a bit weird to be honest isn't it it's in I'm here in my little basement talking into the camera um but another one would be just to have somebody in mind that you're talking to now initially you might not have an audience but just my my sort of my content is really sort of tutorials isn't it so it's quite easy for me to imagine that I'm telling somebody how to do it and I've been the sort of tech guy for a lot of people over the years um of people that know asking me how to do this or that so it's easy for me to just actually uh imagine somebody that I'm speaking to what happens is when I'm making my videos they've often come about because somebody's asking me the question either in comments or message me or something like that and so I literally have usually somebody in mind that I'm doing this for um and in fact that was the case he's dropped out now but Chris in the UK who's uh he's gone to bed because it's after bedtime in the UK he mentioned about um you know he's setting up a channel and things like that and wanted I was looking at using the e-cam live beta the new features that are in it to do is overlays and stuff like that and where you don't need to have graphical overlays like we we used to have in the olden days with the the beta uh and so when I was making that that template for that I did for the uh the layout for uh this one I'm uh mints my words a little bit here and this thing that I created just toggle my camera off so I made this this uh this background image of the uh the layout to make it easy to lay out for camera layouts and scene layouts and things like that so I specifically thought about him when I was making it you know so you do find that or I find that when I'm making these videos now there's usually somebody that I have in mind so uh that would be another tip is if you are a little bit camera shy have somebody specific in mind that you're talking to and then you don't feel like I'm just on stage talking to hundreds of people thousands of people millions or whoever you know whatever you view it so that would be that would be my point I really needed to steal this down into something shorter than a 10 minute ramble about it but um yeah there's loads there's loads of loads of little tips and lessons so I could um yeah it all depends on the different different aspect of it another thing would be uh like always look to try stuff um like new stuff like I'm trying out my shorts and things like that at the moment but also don't be afraid to abandon it as well so I was posting three a day and then suddenly I thought that was too many so uh just sort of pivoting on that as well uh another one would be about the numbers don't get worried about the numbers but just um be interested in them without being obsessed with them so I don't really I do see sometimes that you know occasionally I lose subscribers and then they'll come back or you know things like that so just not getting bothered about that um I suppose another thing is just um sort of sticking at it and be consistent um and the reality of it is that if you are consistently posting on youtube and are posting stuff that people find interesting useful or entertaining it's unlikely that your subscribers over time are going to go down it is a sort of thing of it compounds you've got to basically do something if somebody's being clicked the subscribe button then you've got to do something that's either offensive or annoying for people to say I'm not interested anymore and switch it off obviously sometimes people are interested in a topic and then they become disinterested in it and maybe want to clear out their subscriptions and things like that but generally it's just one of those stick at it because it will take some time in fact if I just come back to my stats you can see exactly uh I don't know if you were on earlier when I shared this but you can see exactly the uh the process I'll come into my analytics which is not that one this one and then if I go over my lifetime of my channel uh you can see sometimes things just seem like it's just going at the same pace and you think well if I'm aiming for a particular target how long is it going to take me to get there at this rate you know that might be somebody's thought process uh for me I was never thinking like that it was um in fact I've just noticed Jim's comment I'll come back to that in a moment um in fact I'll come to it now so were I was I in AVIT before starting your channel so uh oh Michael's joining um I wasn't as such but I was creating course content using uh uh using Ecamm live and so part of the um uh reason for me to start the channel was I wanted to get into the practice of being able to create these videos sort of live in one take and so that was hence the name take one tech because when I was making videos before I would find that I would spend far too much time editing and uh yeah it would it would just become a chore so I specifically started the channel as to get over my perfectionism but also as an exercise in um basically becoming better at making like one take videos essentially so um but just quickly uh before I would bring Michael in um you can see here that my uh stats have um been uh sort of they were relatively flat and not uh increasing too much over the past over you know the first few months but then there's been this sort of jump up and this little uh spike in them so uh what's it lazy hello my little boy's just woke up this is Dale um so he's um uh yeah it's a another little tip would be just to uh just to uh stick uh stick with it mommy no don't stay on youtube daddy yeah there we go sorry about that you are my little boy uh so yeah that would be that would be something is just to sort of uh stick uh stick at it basically uh because you know there will be there will be a change so if you feel like things are progressing slowly uh which somebody might think then uh then yeah just stick at it basically uh I will add little uh the boss yeah now is that Dale or is that my wife who also walked in or is it both let me yeah let me just get uh now I've got to change this I don't know why I can't change that scene wait a minute let me just toggle this one off come to here and I'll change this one this is what I should have done when uh Paul was on what's wrong guest there we go Michael hello Michael sorry to keep you waiting hello that's okay I was having a terrible time trying to connect I kept getting a strange page whenever I would hit the link oh that's strange all of a sudden it started working however I did record what was happening so I'll send you that video just so you can see it and maybe between us we could figure out what what was the problem but uh I couldn't get in and and I don't want to keep you long because I know I know the little one is up and uh but I just I did want to stop it and since Paul is still online I want him to know I think his his video and the sound was fantastic tonight yeah it was so much so much better than it has been in uh office hours uh in in office hours he was a little bit hollow his sounding yeah and uh but but this video was great and if he's coming in at 4k I have the uh zed or z eb 10 yeah and I I'm waiting for a poll to uh to uh set it up so that I can use it yeah but oh it I couldn't believe how much it was 200% better than what I've seen him before yeah it was just fantastic so if you're there Paul I think it's great and he's got the SM7B now as well so that's it that always helps with the audio doesn't it yeah uh now uh the question I have is when you and Paul were talking uh what was it he was having trouble with that he needed an adapter ring yeah so the um uh the the teleprompter the desvu t3 teleprompter that I use it's it basically the way it mounts to the camera is it slips over the top of the uh the ring there's like a ring that screws on to that basically the you know the filter ring that you get for cameras that you can screw things into so it basically the teleprompter comes with a series of rings that you screw into the filter screw on the front of the camera and then the teleprompter sort of slides over the top of it so there's a selection of rings that come in with the teleprompter to fit lots of different lens sizes but there wasn't one to fit his specific size so um yeah if if there's I'm sorry he's right it is a 40.5 I looked at mine well yeah but uh that reverted to 49 millimeters and someone put on the chat that 49 millimeters were available right right uh I can't remember exactly but yeah so it would it would it would be like an upside a thing to change the size so you you screw it into that and then you'd be able to screw the teleprompter ring into that one then so it's like an adapter basically okay okay good good but that that's something I'm going to run into because that would be my my next camera ultimately when I upgrade this one would be that so it's good to know oh yeah because you you don't have any other lenses for no no for the Sony because now if I used one of the other lenses that I have I would probably work without a because this one yeah this one is a 45 millimeter right right so okay Paul said he's just ordered yeah 40.5 49 or 50 oh it's a 50 I've got a question if 40.5 converged to 49 millimeters then how can this one be 45 millimeters which is I suppose smaller I suppose you could get any any size really because it would it would just have screws in and then you could have it expand into another size basically yeah oh okay okay got it got it I really like one thing I was just going to say about the teleprompter I really like the way that it works you just have a ring that screws on the front of your camera but then the whole thing just slots on it so one of the things that I liked about this over the like a lot of people use the glide gear teleprompter but that one the whole camera has to be mounted into it and it's a bit more of a job to get on and off whereas this is just sort of easy to slip on and off that said it stays here all the time so it's not really not really an issue and with the monitor that you have in it and I watch your video on how you jury rig that but with the we call it a jury rig I don't know what you call it yeah yeah yeah totally with the monitor you use you could actually be playing this video that you're stream in there so that you stare straight at the screen and see who's talking that's exactly what I do yeah so you're now in my teleprompter so I'm looking at the camera but I'm looking at you oh okay good good that's what I need to do I'll have to rewatch your video on how to jury rig it well the way that I did it was a bit extreme and you won't necessarily need to do that that part of the reason why because I took a hacksaw to mine to fit everything together but the reason was because I have my camera directly above my monitor and so I wanted to make sure that it wasn't sort of because obviously the the teleprompter is like this and then you have the screen that's reflecting up on it below it so I didn't want it sort of coming down too far over covering my monitor so it's really because of the position that I've got it that I ended up cutting some off the bottom just to give me that extra centimeter or so but you don't really need to do that you can just screw it straight straight in so okay so you could you could use the monitor that you bought yeah with the teleprompter the way it comes because you might I have I have two monitors separated yeah and and the pole is going to be in the middle so it's not going to be bothering the monitors at all you'd be fine there's no you won't need to cut anything or glue anything like that good good and Paul let me know how that thing you ordered works so that before I order one the other thing about the teleprompter is it's because it's I don't use it for teleprompting obviously I'm not I don't do anything scripted but it's it's also just for zoom meetings as well so that's like my primary reason for it really was just to be able to when I'm on zoom calls with people you obviously have their image in that and then you're just talking to them because it's yeah we've just got used to people like when you're on a call with them they're looking down here and they're not actually looking at you anymore because they're looking at your picture on the screen rather than the camera so yeah it just makes a difference being able to talk to people well I have a software teleprompter now but of course it's it's shows on the screen so I have to look at the screen to read it and I don't read it I don't read it to script it but I have a lot of bullet points up there so that I try not to forget you get what I'm going to say and so that's that's why I think it would work well for me I yes good good good for that as well yeah and anyway I know it's probably getting late for you but I did want to since I got it working I did want to drop in and and let Paul know that I just was amazed at the quality of difference and and anytime he wants to stream I'll come in and watch you Paul yeah well I'll be there obviously yeah three of us yeah yeah and oh and the other thing is doc did say last week that he was going to have office hours this week I'll do that but I mean you can but you could still message him and make fine I mean yeah yeah I'll definitely definitely check that you can the t3 for both scripting and zoom meetings but it's a bit of extra effort yeah so I mean when I use zoom with this I have I use the dual monitor setup so I'm often sometimes I'm one to one so from one to one on a zoom meeting then I'll just have the obviously the one screen up there but then if I'm doing something in a meeting with lots of people then I'll have it on dual monitor set up on zoom but then have a gallery view and then I'll have the the speaker window up on the the teleprompter but then if you have it full screen on the monitor then obviously it's full screen but for for doing scripting and things like that if you did want to have like stuff on the you know say you wanted bullet points for a meeting or something like that then have the the speaker view over to one side of the monitor the teleprompter monitor and then some notes down the other side there's also some apps that you can do where like if you literally wanted to read a script that they appear over the top so there's one actually it's I think it's just called teleprompter but that one you can have it appear as a sort of semi-transparent window over the top of anything else so you could still have a zoom window and then you know an actual script if you were doing scripted into a meeting or a webinar or something like that you can do it like that so I've done a few webinars before but again I tend to tend to just not do those sorts of things scripted anyway but it gets a little bit tiny yet can do so I'm using the t3 and the lily put a7 monitor which is a 7 inch monitor I do wonder if the 8 inch monitor you could actually fit in here as well because it doesn't totally fill the whole of the teleprompter screen area with this the 7 inch but yeah it could be it could be an option but yeah it is a little bit small certainly if you were doing like zoom with gallery view or things like that can be a little bit on the small side and just as a side note I have tried everything I can think of I cannot get pro mouse to work well join the club because it seems that there's lots of other people as well so and I tried the other two that you mentioned mouse posay and one other and neither one of them work either right that's interesting so what is the issue that you have with those two I haven't used those for a while but what's the issue you have with these well I forget the first one what was it called not mouse posay because I already owned that right the other one I got off of like 799 I forget what it was called but first of all it was very clumsy to try and use in order to like zoom zoom a picture in you had to hit three three keys like shift option command or something like that and a letter now I realize I could make a key for that but in trying to do that just to see how it worked I couldn't get it to do it it would zoom on my screen but not on the screen I wanted it to like I usually put what I'm sharing over on the second monitor and it just won't do it but yours seems to work fine it's kind of frustrating for me because I recommended it so I've made three videos about pro mouse first I made my first one where I said oh you've got to get this it's brilliant then you bought it and doc got it and doc versus me almost every time he uses it yeah but then I thought I'd figured out why that might be because I'm constantly trying to figure out what is different for other people that they're having difficulty with it which was if you're having problems with pro mouse they sort it because I thought I'd cracked it and then obviously that didn't work so then I'd it helped a few people but it didn't solve the problem and then I made a third video about another potential fix for it so I can't nail down what it is that is not working because I'm not having the same sort of issues Chris as well who's not in the chat now but he was earlier he's had issues with it as well the same thing he can't get it to function the way that it should or the way that I make it look like it can do but the funny thing is now doc and you and I are all using the same computer the M1 Mac mini so if it's working on yours why isn't it working on it that's the frustrating thing I don't know I did wonder if it was an M1 thing but then since I've had it it's been working the other issue that I know some people have is there's something to do with when they use in the Logitech keyboard MX keys there's something about you can't use the function key now there's a with ProMouse the thing that is a bit weird to me or seems a bit strange to me is you can't use you can't use any sort of combination of hot keys so you might think you want to have like control M say for mouse I don't know whatever you want to put for it but you can't actually use that either the function key the control the option or the command key so those are the sort of like activation keys so ah so you've got the Logitech I wonder if that's good yeah thank you Greg oh you just got a coffee that's very nice of you and this one's on you then much appreciated I've got to reset my camera there we go I use a PTZ camera so when I put my hand up like we do an office out it turns the camera from staying in one position to following me to whatever I do right it could like putting that keyboard up caused it to switch over but anyway you know I want I'm sorry go ahead Paul says he's using cursor pro is that the one that you were using as well that's the one I tried and it doesn't work and I assume it's working for you Paul or I don't know I just so Paul says this problem with pro mouse is when I try to use Ecamm it doesn't always cooperate there's one little thing about with Ecamm if you are doing screen sharing and you're screen sharing an application window as opposed to the whole desktop by definition it is only showing one application to the exclusion of all others I just realised it just moved my overlay over I just zoomed it so because it is basically doing it to the exclusion of all other apps and pro mouse is an app then that's why it doesn't get shown as a why you don't see it so if you're sharing a specific app an app window then it doesn't show up with pro mouse so that is the beauty of the cropping feature that we've now got with the Ecamm live beta because I just share the whole screen and then crop in and so in that way that you can actually see the pro mouse showing up as well yeah now that brings up another question and I mentioned I think in one of the two videos I recently sent you with the scenes we set up with your new template which by the way was a godsend oh I think you actually like it and but the two like the screens we're in now if one of them was a screen share and I've got the border around it when I try to crop it in it crops in the border and makes the whole thing smaller yeah so how I'll show you how I do that it's I'll give you an example right now so if I come into I'll add a screen share in overlay oops I'll just toggle the live stream thing off so now I've got an overlay now let's say I want to crop into this little border just at the so I want to crop into this part here this chat window so I'd grab the I'll do this just not in demo mode because it might you'll still get the impression of it but it would just be easier to see so I'm going to hold down option on the corner and crop in this way and then I'll hold down option on this corner and crop in this way and then crop in like this so this is obviously appearing very very small at the moment but I'll blow it up and I'll now so now we're not holding option down but I'm just going to drag the corner and I drag it until it is the same size here and then I'll move it over to this side and I'll click on the other corner so I'm just clicking the corner now and I'll drag it like that now obviously the issue that you've then got is that it is now the right height but it is to it's not obviously not fitting in there and in fact let me just try and actually I'll just crop in exactly on that window now that I've put it a bit bigger so I'm going to move the sides in and now I'll hold this top corner and drag it out so at this point I've got it exactly the right width and I basically expand it until the smallest dimension is being filled so either the width or the height so in this case I've got the height filled so now what I'm going to do is I'm just going to drag the corner and basically I'm moving the crop again so it's basically uncropping that part of the window but there's no way around that because that's just the size that the window is so then what I might do is I'll then come over into this and then I would perhaps drag the corner of this if I can resize that window then I'll resize this to get it to exactly the right size so it's kind of like it's cropping on the whole thing first of all then expand it out until it fits either the width or the height and then just drag it to one side or the other just to fill in that opposite dimension so that's how I would do that and then obviously I can't be here without just the corners so yeah now it makes sense because like I told you in one of the videos I can make a square or even a rounded thing in Photoshop or whatever but I can't put one side square and the other side round like we can the other thing just to just mention quickly as well is if I bring that overlay back up so there's also in demo mode a minute so with the actual overlay oops gotta hide this one too many things over the screen there we go the other thing is this might be set to the shape sometimes that can be if you crop in it shouldn't actually make a difference but where it says the shape sometimes if you change that one to custom as well then sometimes it keeps the aspect ratio but if you change it to custom then basically you can change that to be whatever size you want whereas if you have it as 16 by 9 then although we've now technically cropped in it on it it will try and sort of maintain that aspect ratio so when you're dragging the corner it will adjust both sides proportionally so I'm just dragging it even if I drag side to side it still drags proportionally whereas if you come in and change that to custom then it allows you to drag I drag the corner now I can drag to the side or I can drag up so it's actually easier to sort of get the initial position right with it like as the the custom but the problem that that has then you can see how it's sort of moving the window around a little bit the cropping area it's a bit of finicky really to be honest still with the cropping and resizing and stuff like that which means if they had a feature in there that would let us draw boxes or circles like they do with so many other things then I could draw a plain box and they'd put that is a good point actually just actually highlight a specific area of the screen yeah but I mean if Ecamm had the ability to put like Keynote does drop down a rounded box or a square or a circle and then be able to put a ring around it and then put your screen share in the middle of that then you'd be fine yeah yeah got you yeah and being if you're able to like actually pan so let's say I've got my position fixed on that one I'll just bring that up again so where I've got that screen sharing if I could actually just somehow hold a button down and actually pan inside that as well so I can obviously do it by moving the actual window round but let's say I wanted to move to a different part of the screen then if I could hold down a button and actually just grab in the middle of the window and move it to the left or right as well but still the outline exactly the same that would be useful as well I'm making a note of all these they will get submitted as a feature request it's like drawing tools like you do in Keynote add a whatever a box a circle and that would make it easier and it would actually be helpful in a lot of different areas yes yeah I think yeah I mean having to pre-defined templates as well to be honest could be another good one like where you've got like a bit like when you're in slides in PowerPoint or a Keynote and where you can just have a drop down and it puts up like a title scene a title slide or one with you know two boxes of text or bullet points or things like that it could almost be like a little drop down for like you want to create a new scene and it's just got something like this you know a two up or something like that that could be another option yeah hey Elysio, good to see you here hey Elysio an inspiration oh yeah I watch a lot of his a lot of his got a lot of energy that young man does certainly has yeah I've always commented on this before but I always love Elysio's overlays and designs and things like that so I can't quite carry them off the way he does though so oh by the way Elysio I watched your video the other day about the microphones with your ZV-E10 and the road wireless goes and the another road so I've got the road video mic the original one actually but yeah it was a great video that was and to see how well those road wireless goes work I mean it's just it sort of sold them to me really you know when I when I get a new camera outside like particularly like stuff with the kids and stuff like that not so much the normal content creation but it's they just so seem so good those road wireless goes and yeah obviously a big difference from the you know the further back that you get from the camera obviously you just totally lose the sound quality but those road wireless goes were amazing yeah great great video that was great comparison cool so how about you Michael what have you got a have you got your date planned for your your live stream yet sorting your scenes out last week but oh and and then well I thought I was going to have them all done and then you came out with the new template and it looked so much better I had to redo them all but it but it did you're right it does not take as long with the the new template yet not that does not take as long all they had to do is drop in the template and readjust the frames yeah but I'm getting there I I'm no longer going to say it's going to be such a such a date I certainly will let you know and it will be that whenever is I'll be there soon and I was going to try I knew I couldn't go to people of live because I had doctors appointment and whatnot but I was going to try and go up just for the day the day they meet at B&H but now I can't do that either and I didn't mind I was going to fly up for the day and then fly back that night but right and I even thought of going out to the airport and running a plane and flying myself up oh yeah you could do that yeah yeah well except it was cheaper to fly commercial than it was to run a plane here and trying to get in and out of JFK in a small private plane can be a problem a little bit busy traffic I would imagine around there just a tad yeah I remember when I was when I was in the Marines and I lived in North Carolina we wanted to fly up to Washington DC for the day just to go to Arlington and all of the different sites there and I'll tell you what I was in the traffic pattern at DC I guess it was Reagan they call it now or whatever but I was in the traffic pattern for God knows how long trying to get in there but because they were letting the big planes in and then when they finally let me in they'd come on the radio and they'd say first left or first right off whichever runway I was on because you're being followed by a 747 they want to get you out of the way for the big boys to come through because the big boys are coming and they're not stopping they're not going around at any rate it was a so I decided against trying to go into Kennedy with a small plane anyway but so I don't get to go up and meet I wanted so much to meet Doc and some of the other people in person but especially Doc I wanted to shake his hand and get my picture taken with him but well that's the same as me I'd love to go and shake his hand I mean I've got so much knowledge from him first of all but all of the community the role that he plays in the e-cam live community as community manager but then in our group with office hours just phenomenal such a yeah I may have to fly to Hawaii to see him but I really want to meet him I really do want to meet him although he did say that he was going somewhere else after he gets back from people of live and I thought it was in California but I'm not positive but if it's in California that's an easier flight for me right right real Northwest Arkansas is like trying to fly into Oshkosh I always watch the YouTube coverage of the Oshkosh event it's never been, I'm not a pilot I'm an aspiring pilot but it always fascinates me so yeah I always watch the coverage of the Oshkosh event have you ever been to that Michael? never heard of it it's a big like a big fly in and they have all sorts of yeah just all sorts of aircraft there so if you just search YouTube for Oshkosh there's no end of videos all about the it's like an air show but then like a fly in so there's lots of private pilots fly in to go and see the things and there'll be yeah all sorts I like watching things about kit planes I'd love to build my own plane at some point in the future basically so I love watching all this stuff about the kit planes I thought about it when I was younger and I got to thinking you know what I've done a lot of dumb things in my life some have turned out well some have turned out well and some have turned out not so well to the point where I figured that as I've said before that my final words were going to be like well shit that didn't work so I'm not going to build my own plane I kind of I kind of fail you on that one as well see me flying along did I screw that last final screw in or not I'm not sure and what if this doesn't work when I get up there take a pair of shoes at any rate no I'm not building my own plane Paul said he's going to Southern Carolina sorry oh good good because California is I can get to California better than I can get to Hawaii to real northwest Arkansas what's your name by the way just so I can I always like to be able to call people by their name rather than YouTube handle but great to see you here always happy to welcome people to the stream yeah so I'm hoping to get back to my usual schedule this week this last week has been a bit of a write-off with my zoomathon but I'll be getting back to creating some more videos over the next week I'm going to do a bit of a catch-up this weekend as well I've got a few hours to spare this weekend that I'm going to squeeze them into as well yeah and I know you're busy I hope I don't bother you oh not at all Michael I'm in Florida I'm in Florida Rich has popped up in the question and real northwest that's Dale there you go well that's easy to remember because that's my son's name as well so you've got great taste in names and Rycee Howe at any rate as I said I'm glad I finally got in I have no idea what was going wrong but it was sending me to a completely strange page but like I said I recorded it while I was doing it so that I could I'll send the video to you on one of my videos and I'll show you where it is taking me and I had it right I'm using the same link that I always have take one tech.io slash join for some reason it was taking me to a strange page yeah and I guess somebody else in the chat said they also had Proven yeah it must have been a routing error or something because obviously it all goes through I'm not sure how EECAM have got their servers set up for that but anyway it must have been a minor technical glitch yeah so at any rate it's what time is it it's seven o'clock at your time it is course past seven in the morning so it's time for me to drop off oh hello Dean sorry I'm just Dean popped into the chat great to see you here Dean's been there since the beginning of my channel as well he's another one that's been there just constantly giving me words of encouragement and things like that so I really appreciate you Dean and great to see you here and how come Michael's window isn't filling the frame so that's because Michael's got his border on in EECAM and so what I should probably do it's alright what I can do is if I hold on I can take the border off I can do it like this as well I can zoom you there we go yeah I can zoom you in and out that's what I should have done thank you for pointing that out Rich I noticed that but I should have just remembered that I could just do it and zoom myself with the zoom thing and Paul says it was him blocking everyone else from joining he came in and locked the door so that no one else could get in I wanted to drop in and say hi to him but I could not get in have a great weekend well thank you Michael for stopping by and everyone else as well thank you so much for all you've done you're welcome and great to see you Paul as well and have a nice chat yeah Paul says next time next time you'll have to both be on the same time yes yes I'll look forward to it again Paul fantastic video and fantastic sound yeah really good really amazing we're totally ready now to start live streaming yes we'll start no excuses we'll start applying the peer pressure we'll start ramping up the peer pressure remind Paul he can always go into just a group he doesn't have to stream to youtube yet go into the group and do a test stream and I guess it's rich that goes in there every day to test his scenes yeah every week yeah rich goes in there to test his scenes yeah it's great they don't mind and it gives us a chance to see you okay anyway you need to go and I need to go great well thanks again for stopping by Michael you're quite welcome and Paul you're welcome thank you right well thank you very much everybody for stopping by it was great to see you I've got a comment sticking up there on the screen I've got to turn this off this overlay that'll help that's me there there you go thank you everybody for stopping by I hope that there was something of value in there amongst all of my waffling and thanks a lot Greg as well for the coffee I do really appreciate it this one is definitely on you thanks again and yeah until the next time my stream deck this is typical isn't it just when you want to find a button the stream deck is defaulted to my home screen so I'll get it here somewhere right well thanks everyone again for watching and I'll catch you all on another live stream soon and I'll get back to you Rich about the office hours tomorrow I'll check with Doc to see if we're having it or not and what's going on about that I'll drop it into the LGL group again for watching and I'll leave a link to some of my videos for people who are watching on the replay have a great day everyone bye bye