I'm Jay Fidel. This is Think Tech Tech Talks. And we're going to talk about the cyber criminals who take advantage of people now, why and how. Okay, with our old friend Attila Serres of SIPAC. Welcome back to the show, Attila. My mind is focused on our preliminary discussion, which I'll call it ruminations and reflections. And I was talking about a company that makes software that is unpopular in the U.S., which seems to be eliminating from Russia. I don't like the idea of supporting Russia. And you were talking about chat GBT and how far it's come in terms of usefulness. Why don't you go first? All right, so we're going to talk about that. You got it, Jay. Well, GBT is fun. The best way to compare GPT to another well-known piece of technology that's changed the world is email. I mean, there was a time when companies could survive and thrive and do really well without email. Make phone calls, send to fax, whatever. And then all of a sudden one day, maybe early to mid-90s, every company had email. And if you didn't have email, you weren't competitive. What it's gotten popular for is foraging student papers or replacing coders and attorneys, right? Stuff like that, vocational or highly skilled professional jobs. But what's happened with GBT now is that it's gotten a little bit better. And if you're not using it in your company, in your business, in your creative work to solve problems, you're kind of falling behind. So six months ago, Jay, when the premier chefs of New York have taken this to heart and they've gone full out and they've been able to create wonderful creations based on ingredients in their kitchen because the GPT engine has just gotten a lot better at creating a way to create food. In the same way, the writer's strike, of course, went on for a long time. I heard it just ended, which is great news for the writers. I think that what was fundamentally at the core of the strike and what was really the contention was GPT, the fact that an executive, instead of going to a group of individuals to ask for input or ask for advice on what would be some good ideas for a show, it could ask GPT, they could farm out the initial pilot episodes to some low wage writers. And essentially the person who created the idea was an AI engine. So that would cut out that entire reciprocal process of being able to gather royalties from coming up with a good idea for a good show. So GPT is fundamentally threatening many people in their professions. However, GPT is not perfect and it still requires a human being to pilot it. And that's where, get back to the original point, which was email. So email was something that was a wonderful piece of technology, but someone still had to compose the email messages and send them back and forth and have an intelligent conversation. And GPT in much is the same way. So using it in your day-to-day work, like we use it quite a bit, can yield you several results depending on the type of work that you do. If you're involved in creative work where you have to, let's say, create emails or templates or marketing or graphics, all that can be assisted with GPT. One of the challenges we had in particular when we made, for example, SIPAC.com, which is our website, we wanted to show friendly local people engaged in business. And from a stock photography standpoint, it's pretty difficult. In fact, walking into a local business here and taking pictures, well, that's kind of invasive. So we use GPT to feed it some good prompts and tell it to create a Hawaiian-themed business with having the right people interacting in this certain way. And it was fun. We could do all kinds of stuff. We made them shaking hands and we even made them do breakdancing just for fun. And you can do all this stuff with GPT. And we had some wonderful stock photos. And you're going to see that on our website, because it reinforces the fact that we're a local company without having to go overboard with stock photos. Same thing with creating content. And this is where GPT-4 really comes in. And this has just been in the past week or two. They've linked now GPT-4 with the internet. And you're wondering, like, how does that matter? Like, what's so important about that? Well, if you ask it to query a website and say, hey, go to, let's say, thinktecawaii.com and tell me what that's all about. What does this company do? It can tell you what Think Tech Hawaii does. Furthermore, if you're designing content for that website, you could say, well, what would someone visiting thinktecawaii.com look for in a company prior to donating or viewing one of their programs? They could lay that out too. Frequently asked questions. Can you write some frequently asked questions based on this information? Yes, I can. Right. And so now you have this content creation engine that would have taken you hours. And there's probably some common sense, but could really streamline some of that process. So when we were talking before we jumped on the air, we're talking about this video editing platform. And you said I had some concerns about it being Russian ties. Well, I don't know. I could, you know, Google and read some websites or I could just feed into GPT and see what it says. And it did that very thing. It went to the website. And then it said, hey, let's look on some other being search results because it's tied into Bing. So it looked on a crunch base and a bunch of other different sites to find out who runs the company. And well, I think we just went on the air right before I got my answer. So but it's it's out there. And the best part, which is so much fun. I don't know. Jay, have you heard of the movie? Her? No. Okay, I'll give you the 10 second summary. A guy is depressed. He wants a therapist. The therapist is Scarlett Johansson's voice as an AI. And she helps him process some stuff. Of course, in the end, the AI as in all movies, decides that it's better off without people and leaves.  So chat GBT last week released a audio engine on your phone.  And it's pretty terrifying.  You know, just driving along the other day with my son, I asked it to tell me a story.  And then I said at the end of it, hey, make me a picture of what this would look like on the cover of a cover of a children's story. And it created it. It was amazing. Shocking. In fact, I'm happy to give that to you at the end of the show if you want. I didn't have it all queued up for you. What's the name of the app? It's the chat GBT app. And yeah, we can do some, some fun stuff with it. But yeah, this raises all kinds of questions when you connect it to the internet. And do you say that you can also talk to it and have it talk to you? Yeah, it talks back and forth. In fact, right now it's generating the, just stop the generation here. Okay. So, you know, I'll give you like an example here. We were talking about Think Tech Hawaiian. We'll see if this comes through his audio. Hi, I've heard of thinktechhawaii.com. It's a pretty cool website. Can you check it out and tell me if they're a good company? Turn up the volume a little bit. So this is where we have to, you know, cut the, cut the stream if necessary. So it's gone out. It's browsing your website. Let's see what it's all about. It's a Monday, so I think everyone's using this thing. Just demoing this earlier on today. It was taken the same thing. Thinktechhawaii appears to be a reputable organization based on the information available online. Established in 2001, it is a Hawaii based nonprofit corporation focused on raising public awareness and encouraging civic engagement through citizen journalism. They aim to contribute positively to the community by producing high quality video content for Hawaii and the global audience. While Thinktechhawaii is not BBB accredited, they have a high BBB rating of A plus. This rating, along with their 21 years in business, suggests a strong and stable presence in their field. Notably, there have been no customer complaints or reviews reported to the Better Business Bureau, indicating either a lack of issues or limited direct customer interaction that would lead to such feedback. It's also worth mentioning that they are located in Honolulu, Hawaii and have been in business for a significant period starting in 2002. This long standing operation adds to their credibility. However, without customer reviews or complaints, it's challenging to assess the direct impact or quality of their services from a consumer's perspective. If you're considering interacting with them, it might be helpful to seek out more direct feedback or testimonials, possibly from their website or social media channels. It gives me an idea, actually. But that's really more than you would get in a simple Google in the past. Anyway, there's analysis there. It asks itself a lot of questions. I'm impressed with that. But your point about the internet is really, that is disruptive because before you would ask open AI, chat GBT, you would ask it a question and it would be limited to information up to what, 2021 or something. Now it's right now. It's whatever is on the internet. Maybe that's why it takes a little longer to go checks through the resources because there's a lot of stuff on the internet. But this really changes things. Before, you couldn't get current information. You couldn't get today's news. You couldn't know what was in the times of the poster, the media in general, the articles and all the journals and all that. Now, it sounds like you can. That changes the world. That is way different than even a few months ago, even a few weeks ago. Thank you for that. This is last week. And imagine, earlier today, I was just checking, I was like, hey, what's going on in the world today? And how it might relate to me?  This is what your interests are. Here are some things around the world that make sense. And here are some things you can not. And then if you don't understand, because that's the thing, Jay, I got to be honest, I'm not great when it comes to current events. I depend on my wife. I say, hey, what's going on in Israel? Sorry, I don't know what's going on. I'm not a politically minded person. And so she interprets it for me and says, oh, this is what's going on, right? And chat GPD can do the same thing if there's a complex case that's involving a very complex legal something that I don't understand. I can ask it to simplify it for me. And it's going on in the news. Tell me what's going on between this case and this person and give it to me in plain English, like if I was 15 years old. Great. That's interesting because what's going on in Israel is a good example. There are people who protest in favor of Israel, that is against the Amos massacre and women, it's using people as human shields. And then there's a lot of protests in favor of the Palestinian cause. And it's hard to do what I would call balanced reporting on that, because you have moral issues and you have time issues and you have the level of brutality issues and all that. So it strikes me that when I go to a given news source and I hear them talking about say that issue, I know within like one minute, whether they are biased or impartial, I know right away. They're just stressing this or that or the other thing because I'm ahead of them. But so you could make the same kind of judgment on chat GBT. You could ask it, you know, so what's going on in Israel? In one minute, you'll know what they're getting from their various large language model sources and all that. You'll know right away whether they're incorporating a bias from one side or the other. And then you can make your own judgment about whether chat GBT is worth the price. It's free. Well, you know, if you really want to splurge this $20 a month plan, it's probably spend more at Starbucks than you do on this. But this could, it's a very useful aid. And yeah, Jay, we can, after we're done here, happy, we can try to see what it says about what's going on with that topic and find out if it is biased. I don't know. Yeah, very interesting. Well, let's spend a few minutes on what we wanted to come here and discuss. Sorry, that was too good. Let's talk, let's talk about these guys, these criminals. And I'm guessing that from what you're saying, they're mostly on the mainland or are they on the mainland and in a way, which, which steal from people who are disadvantaged, both in food and financial assistance programs, which is in the word of the article or your article, despicable, clearly despicable. I don't mind saying that. So the question I suppose is, how widespread is that? How dangerous is that? Who's getting who's being victimized? Well, you know, this always comes back to something that happened over the summer. I don't know if you remember back in August. I know it seems like a long time ago. We're only in November. But back in August, news broke that many ATM machines and some credit card machines at local supermarkets had been compromised in that someone had placed a small device over the over the pin pad and the card reader. And they have gone ahead and they harvested the credit card swipes and the pins that were entered on the keypad and they took that information and it went to who knows where, right? And when that occurs, it means that all credit card numbers or or pin numbers, ATM numbers that were used on that device are out on the dark web. And that's, you know, EBT or ATM otherwise, right? So in my article also says, Hey, if it's EBT or ATM, it's doesn't really matter. Now, you know, it is unfortunate, but it does happen. And it's not just here. It's happened all across the country. And what the I mean, if you look at it, you know, your cell phone is essentially a supercomputer and look how small that is. Well, think about what you can do with just a small transmitter to a receiver somewhere close by and then it can, you know, take that information and send it off. And, you know, the cyber criminals took that information, those swipes and they were able to, you know, sell that info on the dark web and then use it to make purchases. And unfortunately, some of our local community members experienced that because they went to the local market to use the EBT card. And the EBT cards also use a pin, same as your ATM.  And that pin, that four digit pin that you type in afterward, that's what they were able to harvest. So they were able to make, you know, those purchases as if they were the victims who were out there supposedly, you know, trying to get food for their for themselves and their families. And it is unfortunate, but they were victimized. And it's a good reminder that when you do use your ATM card, there's limited protections in place compared to say a credit card. And so you even if you have an ATM card, you do have the option to use the Visa or MasterCard feature of that card when you're at the merchant.  But when you when you do go to Safeway, it assumes when you've put in an ATM card that you wish to pay by ATM. It is because they pay far less per transaction than through a credit card. But if you just hit the green button, it just processes it as a credit card transaction, you get the protections that are involved with using a MasterCard or Visa as your merchant processor. Of course, it costs them a little bit more per transaction to do that, but it gives you that consumer protection. So that's a little tech tip, maybe I shouldn't repeat. So don't don't tell anyone that, but but that that that is a way to kind of, you know, stick it to the to the markets. But in the same way, like, you know, we we do our best to try to keep this stuff from happening to us. But it's really hard when you do have a a device that's physically harvesting those credentials. And like I said, it's not just here, it's all across the country. And yeah, local criminals may have harvested that data, but it definitely went on to the dark web. And then who knows where it went from there? Is there a way, you know, technologically to stop this? That's my first question. What I mean is, is there a way like to use a fingerprint? An eye, a retinal scan, what have you? Some combination of personal characteristics to to make sure that, you know, you're properly identified. Is there a way to stop this? I mean, we have all this technology. And we're talking about, I want to talk about AI in a minute. And all this technology, why can't we stop this from happening? You know, ridiculous with the password managers and the to the to stop verification and all that has got to be an easier, better, more efficient way. What is it? There is. And security is one of those things that unfortunately does create an extra step. And, you know, one thing that I recommended, at first, when when this came out, just always tap your card when you can try not to insert it. And better yet, if you have an iPhone or the Samsung's have this, you can load your credit cards into there and using NFC and the encryption that's on board these devices, you can store and transmit and pay for things using Apple Pay and Google Pay. Those are great alternatives. That's safer. Are you saying that's safer? It is safer.  Also on the flip side, I'm not sure if you've been to Whole Foods lately, but they have these things where you can just wave your palm over it, read your palm print, and you can pay that way. I haven't used it yet, but I'm pretty excited. So that's some new tech that's coming out. I looked it up online and you can see folks just kind of walking out with putting their hand over the over the register over the scanner there. So there's some neat stuff that is coming out. I'm not a big fan of rental scanners. I don't like things in my eye, but I'm told that they're safe. And that is one way to also verify your identity. Biometric is another way. So you can put your finger as a biometric scanner on some of these phones to unlock the phone to authorize credit card transactions. Of course, if you have an Apple device, they can recognize your face. So you can do facial recognition. It's another way to do that two-factor authentication. But in short, Jay, it's going to take the world a long time to catch up to some of this stuff. Many websites still don't have two-factor authentication, including investment sites, if you can believe that. So some of your money is best protected with a good, strong, unique password. And that's kind of hard to do without a password manager. But like I've said before, they're pretty inexpensive. They're pretty easy to use. There's plenty of good... And sometimes they get hacked, though, I tell them. They do. But to a degree, if you have good cyber hygiene in the first place, then even if they do get the data, they can't do anything with it. That's been the case with LastPass. So LastPass did have their vaults, the encrypted vaults extracted. But if you had a weak password on there, like password one, two, three, well, they're going to get in anyway, right?  So have a good, strong, unique password for that. And then you have strong, unique passwords for every other website and have it manage it for you. It's pretty much... Okay, I want to put... I want you to put your AI creative hat on for a moment, okay? So here we have this problem you described. It's what you call it, the identification code that you have to punch in in various ways that these criminals can steal money from even disadvantaged people, especially disadvantaged people who may not be that computer akamai and don't see it coming. But AI is smarter than... Well, we don't know how smart it is yet. We know it's very smart. And it can be made smarter and it will be made smarter. Why can't AI be used, A, to prevent this from happening, and B, to catch those buggers, to catch them and make a case out of it and put them in prison, federal prison. I prefer federal prison. The food is better, yeah. So, Mary, why can't AI be brought out on this? Is there somebody working on this? Do you think there is? Do you think there will be somebody working on these really basic problems, electronic problems that we can't seem to shake? Wouldn't it be wonderful if AI could identify the guy who's doing it, a pattern, you know? AI is all about patterns. Talk to me. Tell me your creative thoughts. Well, I'm going to tell you a secret, Che. We've been using AI a long time here at SIPAC. And not the chat GBT AI that you're thinking about. We use it as gateway level protection, workstation level protection. So that means that it's using AI to look for anomalous patterns, patterns that could indicate compromise on the individual computers and workstations as well as at the gateway level. So anyone trying to break in, anyone trying to break out of the network, if any of that looks suspicious, that matches any sort of patterns that it may have learned about in the past, that kind of machine learning has been around for a long time. So this task-specific AI has been around decades, right? Not new. But what's new about chat GBT is that it's now also incorporating behavioral characteristics. So if we want to talk about how you can keep this from happening to yourself, then chat GBT is going to give you some good guidelines for behavior. So when I mentioned earlier about using your PIN, chat GBT can recommend to you, as I recommend as well, that when you type in your PIN, put your hand over your other hand so that it can't be seen. We're kind of doing this here so it ends up on camera. Here we go. So it can't be seen. It can recommend that. Oh, look at that. What else could it recommend? It could recommend that you change your PIN if there's been any sort of suspicious activity on your account. Do you review your statements once a month? Maybe check it out. See if there's been anything unusual on there. One of the other best pieces of advice that I've heard from other companies is that they have different bank accounts for different purposes, or different credit cards for different purposes, kind of like a football team, right? You don't have everyone playing the same position. They pay different positions for different purposes. And in the same way, you do the same thing with your finances.  You can break it up for different tasks. That also helps to kind of segment your responsibility. Now, we do this on a network level, if you can believe that. Many folks come to us and they say, look, we've had this network. It's been here for a long time. It's starting to get a little bit old. And we understand that it's not as secure as it should be. And the kind of expertise we need and the disruption involved is not something that we want to do on our own. Can you come help us? And at that point, we'll break up the network. We'll make it so that even if there is an infection, let's say in your production environment, it doesn't spread over to accounting, right, in that kind of way. So we're talking about a behavioral change to a technology kind of problem, right? It's like watertight doors on a ship or a submarine. Exactly. Exactly. You do want to air gap different parts of your network. Want to air gap different parts of your money. Might want to make sure that your phone's backed up.  I lost my phone. I didn't have a backup. I don't know. I clouded like a dollar a month. We're not talking big bucks here. What I was thinking of is the pattern that is established. It's like back in one of those crime movies, you get an M.O., right? And the police identify the M. This is old fashioned stuff. They identify the M.O. And they look in another city or state and find the same M.O. exists. And that helps them point to the perpetrator, you know? So for example, using AI or whatever system that you can develop an M.O. on a certain kind of break-in, a certain kind of criminal activity on the web. And you have a global database of M.O.s. And you find that it's coming from here. It's got these numbers in the header. And it just looks like the one that came out of Bulgaria. It looks just like that one. And then you watch Bulgaria. And then bingo, you find that somebody in Bulgaria, I like to make a movie like this, be an interesting movie. Somebody in Bulgaria is doing that M.O. So now you're focusing maybe you'll even find the guy. Maybe you'll find him by way of the M.O. despite the geography. Can AI do that? Will AI do that? Because we'd like to see some prosecutions. We'd like to see some guys tossed in jail. And that's not happening. Yeah, we did write up on this also on our deep watch blog about Nigeria specifically. And Homeland Security specifically does monitor IP address ranges. And then they do make announcements out to the private sector network defenders, such as ourselves. They say, Hey, look, these are the IP addresses. If you do see this in your network, it's bad. So make sure you put that on a block list. And and yes, AI is definitely used for trend analysis. She said, you know, take large blocks of data and look for patterns in ways that you and I can't do very easily. So yeah, it's been in use for a long time. That's as part of network defense. If you're not using AI, you're behind the times. So you know, the problem the problem is ultimately bring trotting out the report of the AI and using that as exhibit a in a prosecution in a criminal trial and indictment and trial and getting hold of this guy. That's that's number one. You know, coming up with admissible evidence from what AI can do on identifying patterns and the other thing and we know whether a trial or a fact would accept that, you know, you'll agree that technology in the criminal field, you got to get the system to agree that it's admissible. Sometimes the system is under fingerprints, for example, were known in the 19th century, but they weren't really treated as a police device admissible evidence and until well into the 20th century. And so the same thing with, you know, evidence that comes out of AI.  You can tell me, but I don't think there's any organization where various nation states have signed up to participate in the prosecution of cyber crimes that are emanate from somewhere else. Do you know? Well, all I can tell you is this, when you step inside of an airplane, there is a pilot there. And we all know that the airplanes are capable of taking off and flying and landing on their own without a pilot. But good luck trying to get, you know, grandma onto an airplane without a pilot on there or most people. It's very uncomfortable. In the same way in law, AI and what it can find and help you on earth is a research assistant. It's not designed to make the case for you. It's designed to aid and assist and, you know, find the worthy bits of information that's that's buried in the stack somewhere so that it can help your argument. Someone still needs to make the argument. And as far as our prosecution goes, I can tell you right now that, you know, AI is used quite a bit by the legal community to find information, get advice, mind data, do open source intelligence. Yes, absolutely. It is being used. But there's always an attorney at the other end who's presenting the information and making sure that it's curated and it is correct and legal. We don't want to have problems because AI is fighting cases for us. I think we're pretty far from that. I'm thinking of that movie with Tom Cruise, which examined the notion of pre-crime. Yeah, yeah. What was that one? Yeah, I forgot. I know what you're talking about, where they're doing a lot of things with their hands as the interface. Yeah, yeah, that was part of it. But the part that it was, you know, memorable is the minority report, yeah. It was memorable was the notion that this machine was actually a woman in a swimming pool. This machine could identify, she was really smart, that she could identify criminal patterns in individuals and then the state would know this guy was likely to commit a crime. And if so, the state would take some action. I mean, it was really very undemocratic and it didn't have a whole lot of civil rights to it. But the study was that you can use technology, at least in the movie, to identify a crime or a criminal before the criminal has committed the crime. And I hate to even think this, but AI could do that job, couldn't it? Well, I suppose it could. I mean, it's certainly not a woman in a swimming pool. But, you know, the same way, I think we overestimate the simplicity of the human being, right? Like we have very complex creatures, we're very situational. And someone who could create a crime in one situation might not create, might not do that same crime in a different circumstance. So yeah, I mean AI could be used as a preventative measure, but I think more practically we can use it to improve our day-to-day lives, right? Like that's where it comes in. We can do so much more so much faster. Think about vaccines, think about research, think about space exploration. I mean, one of the big challenges we have with astronomical amounts of data is that it's literally astronomical amounts of data. We're talking hundreds of terabytes of data coming in that's being stored on star patterns and stuff. I mean, think about planetary defense, right? AI can find these things out if, you know, what if an asteroid is heading towards Earth? Good luck, right? But AI may pick that up faster than we could. Think about climate change. How can we analyze different data patterns and find out predictively if there's a storm coming and what we need to do due to prepare and save lives. I mean, this is where AI is really exciting. Just think about how many lives you can save. Think about how you can improve the quality of life for so many. Think about how you can, you know, work out, solve these fundamental human problems we have about food and energy shortages and how we can bring a quality to the world. I mean, that's the promise of AI. That's the excitement of AI. I really hope it does come to pass and it doesn't end up being a terminator situation, but, you know, I'm hopeful. Well, your news about the AI chat GBT incorporating the internet and being, I guess, it's the same thing is a remarkable step forward on that. Instead of having, you know, the limitation of old news to draw from or a language model that's like static. Now, now you have information that is really infinite. It's the whole human experience every moment. And no, no wonder it takes a little while for chat GBT to actually come up with a plan. But I think this opens new doors that tell us we're going to see remarkable changes. It's going to boggle the mind and the imagination to see what happens. Yeah, it's coming. We have GPT-5 coming out in the next couple of months. I mean, everything is moving rapidly. I mean, the computers that you see today are going to be totally different, even a year from now. Okay, well, I guess we covered both ends of that. We covered ruminations at the outset and throughout because it is a strain that is always present now going forward. And we did cover the monsters who would steal money from disadvantaged consumers. But I'm sure there'll be more on both ends of that. So let's plan to circle back in a few weeks. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you, Attila. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.


one shiver 1000 here I got my master mechanic monkey 1000 yeah don't forget check our channel out so today we're just a quick fix and we have a very interesting story for you we're gonna put a new prop on this ain't the new one this is the old one it couldn't be fixed so we just went ahead and got a new one we got a new one it was 60 bucks yes and I was going to get this new cone this new nut but hell it was $45 and I'm like I don't really need it at this moment maybe like put one on it but I'm not paying $45 for these he said that they discontinued these but I found what five of them online yeah and they're cheaper brand new for like any where from 12 to 20 so I'll just get one online it's no big deal it's a work for now so let's go ahead and get this opened up and we'll tell you a story after we get done with this this is just a quick fix so hang tight okay as always first thing you want to do is open it up any new part you get check it with your old one make sure everything is the way it should be and there is the brand new one shiny pretty that's gonna look so nice when the boats all painted there's the old one yeah it needed a new one Michigan yeah looks like that's gonna be the one because I know for this this particular motor they made three three sizes of these and you know I wanted to stay with that with this size because it did well you know because if you go bigger you get more speed less power you go smaller you get more power and less speed so I wanted to stay with this size because it was just right as a perfect medium we had decent speed and we had plenty of power for going up the rivers so we're gonna do is I got my pin here and I'm gonna move you over here let's point you down on this like I said just a quick fix okay now what we're gonna do want to turn that a little bit so this does not slide out and fall out because it will all right now check that make sure that seal is not leaking I'm gonna put this on this is just gonna slide on and there's this little notch right here that's what your pin goes in and when these things spin out this actually spins inside of here it's mounted in rubber make sure that's on there it looks like it all right now just gonna put our nut on tighten it up they call it a cone because it looks like a cone it's cone shape I'm not being a smart ass huh that's really why they call it that no shape like a cone so that should be it right there I mean I may not even have to tighten it looks pretty on there yeah pretty they're gonna take our cotter pin a lot of guys call these cotter keys it's not really a key it's a pin okay good bend that pin over because if you ever tighten these it's just plastic if you ever tighten it you'll strip it so that's all that's all I need right there so good deal if you wanted we could so there you go little bit and play in that lower unit there where it's a 1964 this thing has spun a timer too and the guy agreed with me we believe this to be the original prop so I mean I'm gonna hang on to it you see down in there where I used that contact cement that were it worked for a long time but they send them off is what they do and if they can rebuild them cheaper they'll rebuild them and really all that is is just putting a new piece of rubber in here and they press in but what they do first is the x-ray it and they can see cracks that we can't see inside of here so they said it'd be best plus it's got that which this can be fixed they can fill that in with weld and fix it and all that but for the time and stuff it's best just to get a new one so and like I said the new one was 60 bucks so yeah so all right let's get you up here and we'll tell you a little story okay guys so here's the story that prop week before last we dropped it off on a Wednesday and he says you know the prop guys coming tomorrow the prop people's coming tomorrow which was on a Thursday he says I said why just why wouldn't know how much it is before you know because if it's gonna be two or three hundred bucks what I'm gonna do it because I can get a new one online for 90 so so he's like all right I'll call you Friday well he never called on Friday he never called on Saturday of course or close Sunday he didn't call on Monday and he didn't call on Tuesday so last Wednesday she calls him this is all I'm so sorry but my partner passed away yesterday which was on Tuesday last Tuesday right he walked in found him in the shop dead dead on the floor so she's like all right he wasn't at the shop he's never at the shop he didn't know how much it was I said look you know she's like look we just wonder how much it is you know and yeah so she called him back today which today's Monday the following Monday of last week and he was you know he says yeah it's in I'm at the shop I'll give you a price and he gave us a price of 117 for the nut and the prop so I'm like okay I'm good with that let's go get it so we go down and we get to talking to this guy you know we pay for it and everything all that and I told him look I ain't gonna pay for five dollars for a night whatever so he charged it was 61 something he said just make it 60 so we give him 60 bucks you know so we get to talking to him and say you know sorry about your loss man so he's telling us a story about this guy he's worked for him for what 13 years yeah this guy was 60 years old he worked for him for 13 years and the guy never did tell him where he lived he asked him one time he's like so so where you live and he kind of looked at him said well does that really matter and he said well no it don't matter to me if you don't want to tell me you know just forget I asked you know so he never did know where he lived it was kind of an eccentric he said he worked there for what four to five years before he would even talk to a customer yeah he just a little eccentric finally said over the past few years he got to talking and now you know he talked to the customers which we've met him I've talked to him a couple times we handed him the man the prop yeah he was the one and I bought some gear lube for the boat off the guy so really nice guy so this guy got to talking you know and he says yeah he says but you won't be seeing him no more he's gone he said right there where you're standing yeah that's where they found the body I'm getting chills that's where they're right there they don't know what happened they know it wasn't foul play of course but they don't know if it was hard attack or or what but the guy the guy had been sick for a long time he didn't take care of himself yeah he didn't take care of himself and never never seen a doctor in his life so they're not sure what happened but they know one foul play but he said right there where you're standing that's where that's where I found him here's the interesting part she said well you know she said maybe maybe you've got a haunting building here and he said his eyes got big and he said yeah and he's not the first one right and I said oh really she goes yeah he's in he's in the paranormal and he looked at me he said yeah he said another guy right out front there died and we just started talking in a freaking customer came in this guy was ready to talk he would have told us the whole story I say I've never never came I've never investigated a boat shop a marina tech place yeah this would be cool so I do need a thermostat for that cheap part so I can order one online for like 10 or 12 bucks but what I want to do is go down when I know he's not gonna be busy sometime I'll take in and ask him you know well what's these run and blah blah blah I just start talking to him and then I'm gonna start asking questions maybe maybe we can get a paranormal thing out of this guy hopefully I think we could once we get to talking to him or knowing better we could go out front and they can't do nothing to us being out front no but I wouldn't do it without no no I'd ask him but you know I mean I think that would be really cool but as soon as she said haunting his eyes got big and said well he's not the first one yeah I said oh really and he seems very upset that this man died in his shop mm-hmm yeah and I got a feeling that basically the older man was basically running the whole place pretty much all the time and this guy could go and do whatever he wants he acts like he doesn't even want to do anything with this business at all for whatever reason maybe it has something to do with the paranormal I don't know and he's hardly ever there yeah yeah and there's a reason for it so I don't know he was he was getting ready to start talking because we said oh okay sir but we was gonna leave get ready to even he was like oh well okay bye guy like he didn't want us to go like he was itching to tell us more right right right because she told him well he's into the paranormal stuff yeah so I figured this I can get at least get a good story a couple good stories out of this guy you know because I'm pretty sure of the way his eyes got big you know when somebody talks about something tragic that has happened to him or something that has scared him in the past or eyes get big and he just kind of cringe when they're telling the story right and he was like he's not the first one another guy right out front here right over there he said so you know I don't know if it was a guy that worked there I think he said did he say the guy before that's why he was hired hired this guy that just passed away because the other guy had passed away so I don't know this guy it's just like he don't want to be there he you know he doesn't like the idea this and she yeah cuz she said well yeah cuz he was staying up man he's getting ready sit down and she said well we handed him the prop and he was sitting right there he stood back up because it was the chair that we handed the prop and we were only in there a few minutes yeah and the guys you know so I filled out the thing and he said well I give you a call on Friday on the price and we said okay fine well I never heard from him and I worked all day Friday so I couldn't call him and of course the weekend and that place is iffy anyways it's half open when it wants to be it's closed when it wants to be no no good prices yeah and the guy that passed away knew he shit yeah he knew what he yeah he knew his stuff he knew his stuff so but so I think he kept it run but there's some reason why this guy don't want to be there right right and I got a feeling that now it could end up closed completely cuz I said cuz I say you know you probably got stuff going on there he's like oh yeah so it there's shit going on there and I know he wanted to talk more probably should just well let this guy go you know cuz we was into a conversation we'll go ahead and take care of him and but what we'll do is we'll stop down there maybe Wednesday and I'll take the thermostat in just get to talking to him so anyway you know didn't tell me some stuff because that's how you get into you know and he's just you can tell he's wanting to talk to somebody about this but he's probably afraid people don't won't believe him or think he's crazy but when she said he's into the paranormal stuff he's like you know he got all excited like finally someone that'll believe me you know yeah he never know maybe he might you know he might say yeah so anyway cool story but both ready to go yeah I'm ready to go boating she's really go boating we got all the paint and the sealer and all that stuff but it rained yeah and it's supposed to rain all week so I know it's it's sunshiney now but it was pouring out rain this morning all day but it's supposed to do that all week and I want at least two to three good days where I'm not gonna get rain well we gotta let that sealer seal for 24 hours and you don't even if you got it covered up and it's raining humidity and stuff will affect it so we're gonna have to wait so anyway yeah maybe we'll get it out at least we got the paint paint anyway so yeah we got white and blue in one of the sapphire blue so which is a common common blue but it'll look nice on there it'll match the top pretty well so it should look pretty good once it's you know for for 69 I mean damn thing's 52 years old 53 this year so you know yep yeah and and the motors order now I think motors is 63 or 64 so there you go all right guys thanks for watching just a quick fix I know the story was longer but I thought you'd be interested in that and I'm sure she'll do a video on the story on her channel yeah yeah cuz I gotta finish my other thing okay but so check her out monkey 1000 and Dean move BXX 32 check them out great guys and we'll see you guys in the next one have a great one guys she bears a myth man alleged I'm gone for now like so show for now y'all bye bye guys thanks for watching have a good week


Hello everyone, it's Kieran from Chilak, BC, Canada. You are watching Trucker Josh Vlogs on TJB. Enjoy the video. Well, I'm all dressed up again. My glasses are fogging up. Oh boy, that means it's gonna be a good day. Right? So we're here picking up our steel in Tennessee. Jackson, Tennessee. Gotta go find my trailer. I just gave them my empty. So I'm gonna go find my trailer that's already been loaded. I'm gonna lay it down. Hopefully they got no cardboard on it, because they say if there's any cardboard boxes on it, I gotta tarp those. We talked about this yesterday. But anyways, let's see if we can find it. There's two drops on it. One's going to Weber and Saskatchewan, and one's going to Regina Saskatchewan. I've never had a two-dropper steel load, but apparently they put a green sticker on everything going to Regina. So it's gonna be kind of a pain unloading half of it in Weber and going down to Regina and unloading the rest of it. Hopefully they, like, divided it up properly. One of these trailers down here is mine. Which one? Which one? Please be easy to tie down. I see a lot of cardboard boxes on all of these trailers. There's my trailer. None of these. No, none of these. Look at that one. That one's all cardboard boxes. You'd have to tarp the whole thing on that one. It's not my trailer, though. Okay, so we're not here. What is this? Oh, this is nailed down. Okay. Holding that there. So there is some cardboard. I'm gonna have to tarp this front piece. Hardboard there. But they leave it out in the rain, right? Oh, you gotta tarp it. We're gonna leave it out in the rain. But we don't want it to get wet. So you gotta tarp it. Okey-dokey. So you got these pink stickers. These are the ones going to Weber, I believe. This one's somewhere. Here's another pink one. It's not very big, though, right? There's no cardboard back here. So I don't have to tarp this back part. Well, I see a little bit of... No, they just said if it was cardboard boxes, that doesn't need to be tarped. That's all soaked already anyways. You know, if they want us to tarp it, maybe they should store it inside. I don't know. Because if I get to the customer and they're like, hey, why is this wet? They bent it with their band. See that? You gotta be careful with these places. Oh, they did it here, too. We've had a lot of problems with damaged freight being loaded before. Well, not a lot of problems. We've had a few problems. They always fix it. But you just gotta make sure you document it. So there's more pink stickers. Pink stickers, pink stickers, pink stickers. Where's the green stickers? Another pink sticker. There's supposed to be a green one somewhere. It's all for wayburn. Oh, what? What in tarnation? I guess I'll have to figure this out.  Like, sure, it's easy to tarp it, but it's hard to tie it down because those boxes on top crumple, right? But whatever, we'll get it done. We'll get it done. Just came back to the pilot here to grab a coffee. We're about to hit the road. So these boxes up here, these pallets were the only ones I needed to tarp. So I just put the one tarp on. And all this stuff back here does not need to be tarped. So unless if you specifically request that I tarp the steel, then I don't. I did get a specific request though to tarp the cardboard boxes at the front. So, let's go home. The ladies working the till here had such a thick southern accent, I could hardly understand them. They were yapping back and forth to each other the whole time, not really paying attention to the fact that I was there buying something. They were yapping, yapping, yapping, yapping. There was one white lady and one black lady. Couldn't understand a word the black lady was saying. Look, and I can usually follow pretty well. I travel down to the US quite a bit, follow the southern drawl. I couldn't understand a word she was saying, and the white lady, I could only pick out like two or three words here, and I had to ask her to repeat herself three times. But they weren't really paying attention to me anyways. They were both yapping to each other the whole time while I was in there buying a coffee, not paying any attention to the customers. I'm not complaining. I'm just like, wow, that was a thick accent. It didn't sound like they were even really moving things at all. What'd you say? Was that English? Nothing's falling off. That would be terrible. That would be just terrible. It's all looking good so far. The tires are even still there. Right on. What else we got here? The little stuff is falling off or loosened up or what not. Okay. I can't really see it on the camera now. Everything is still there. Let's go around and check all the straps. Make sure that they're all still tight. Check each one individually. Make sure that they're all still tight because they loosen up. I stopped about 20-30 minutes after I left. That's what you're supposed to do. Check all the straps and they had all loosened a little bit.  So after about 20 minutes I came back to check on things and I had to tighten it up a little bit. Especially on these things under here under the tarp. Like I said, they're cardboard boxes and I don't know why they load it in just cardboard boxes but cardboard boxes, even with the big corner protectors, they crumple underneath the straps. You have to tie it down tight enough that it doesn't just fly off in the wind. But as you go down the highway those boxes crumple more and more and more and then suddenly the straps are completely loose. They're under the tarp too so I have to be careful. Yeah, this is loose again. A little too loose. Looser than I want it to be anyway. So I'll give those a quick tighten and then I'm going to make myself a sandwich or some food or something around here. This is going to be our half hour break. I have just over 7 hours available to me. I think 7 hours and 14 minutes available to me to drive today yet. The sun goes down a lot earlier in other parts of the year, other times of the year. So it feels like it's later already but we'll be driving past midnight I'm guessing. I got to get close enough to home that I can do the rest tomorrow. I want to get home in two days today and tomorrow. It really sounded like that dodge was having trouble pulling that ATV. I should have bought a Chevy. I'm saying. 10 minutes to 7pm here right now we're just rolling into St. Louis Missouri or St. Louis however you want to pronounce it. This is a big city. This is another big city. I don't know if we're going to get to see the Arch. The Gateway Arch, that's what they call it right? So isn't St. Louis one's name sort of like the Gateway to the West or something like that? That's what Winnipeg's nickname is too. Winnipeg's the Gateway to the West in Canada. We don't have a big arch. The museum that went way over budget and took way longer than they said it would to build onto what is this? Exit 196 Interstate 270 westbound we're on Interstate 55 north right now. 3, 4, 5 lanes across both directions. Well this isn't bad. Can you imagine during rush hour it would be a lot worse. Right now traffic is moving really well. For people around people in New York probably laugh at this. This is probably like midnight traffic. This is crazy. This is crazy. Alright? We get excited when there's like railway tracks or something. Like whoa! Turn right? Where am I going to go right? Why would I go right? Oh Walmart. Hey I like your thinking Karen. I didn't even notice that it was Walmart there. No we're going to go left though. Coffee break time. About halfway through our day. Another five hours to go. We've driven about five hours already. Grab me a coffee at this airy 400 meters airco airco locally owned Park on the edge of the pumps here because I'm just going in for a coffee. Or in St. Clement, Missouri. 16oz Whoa! I'm going to knock this thing right over. Put the cream in first and then put the coffee and then you don't have to stir it. See? Then you don't have to stir it. Life hack. Have you guys seen these new coffee machines that Pilot Flying J's got? It's not an ad or anything. I'm just wondering. They have this fresh ground coffee machine. I don't know how long they've had them but they grind the coffee beans up right there. It's the freshest coffee you can possibly have. It tastes so good. Every time I go there now I'm getting that. It's like this big machine. It's got like three big bins on top of it with like different coffee beans. And then you got a touch screen in the middle you put your cup under there and you tap it and it grinds up the beans right there and mixes the water in like right like freshest can be. Oh the coffee's so good. They didn't have that here but that's okay. Oh let's get out of here. I just told him that Karen. Were you not listening? You never listen to me. You just yell at me all the time. Ding dong to you too Karen. We're in Floyd Iowa. We've driven 1,052 kilometers today. No. No Karen. We're going to bed. I only got 11 minutes left on my e-log. I gotta find a place to park. There's two truck stops here. There's this truck stop just sort of right in front of us here. It's going to be on our left right away. There's always parking there. There's also a Love's Travel Plaza off on the right over there. The Love's is usually full but it's a newer truck stop. Didn't always used to be there. I can still remember when it was just an empty field. No. I don't feel like it. I'm going to go into this one. I am more confident that I can find a parking spot here quickly. I only have 11 minutes left. It'll be 10 minutes right away. I don't want to waste my time looking for parking. There's a parking right here already. There's a park right there. I'm going to park off on the back on the side somewhere. It'll be quiet and peaceful. I'm going straight to bed. I'm tired. It's been a long day. 1,052 and a half kilometers. That's 650 miles or so. There's nobody back here at all. Hopefully nobody comes in parks right beside us. That's usually what happens. I find a nice quiet spot off on my own in the back. Did some light turn off? What happened to the lights?  I actually have to go park on the side over there. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to park on the side over here. It changes my mind. I'm going to park over the park sometimes. Even when I don't have time I have nine minutes left. Right along the edge here. This is where we're going to park. It'll be quiet here. It's pretty cold outside compared to what we've been in the last couple of days. It's minus six outside right now. It was plus 18 down in Georgia. That was a nice summertime temperature. It's cold. It's back to winter. Back quickly. Let's tell the good people wherever I send this that we are doing we are doing the sleeps now. We are doing the sleeping. What do I have to say? What do you have to say for yourself? You have zero hours and seven minutes of remaining drive time. Good thing we're not driving. Send in our paperwork here. Push a few buttons. I remember sitting up after every day always doing the paperwork but I don't miss those paper logs at all. I love this E-Log system. It has made my life so much easier. So much less paperwork. You know the only people that are upset about it well there's a couple of people that are upset about it. Some people don't like the technology aspect of it and other people they just want to keep cheating in their log books and driving illegally. They're the only kind of people that are upset at it. Usually. Some people don't like technology though so that's a legitimate. You already told me that. Thank you. Thank you. I'm not driving am I? What are you friends with Karen now or something? I'm going to complain to the manager. That's what you guys like to do. That's what Karen's like to do. So thanks for watching today guys. I'm going to walk the weasel and set up my bed. I'm going straight to sleep. I'm tired. We're going to get up and be out of here for hours and 15 minutes. It's going to be great. I hope you tune in. Tomorrow is going to be a long day just like today but we're going to be home at the end of it. But only for a little bit because tomorrow's Saturday when I'm filming excuse me I need to go to bed. Tomorrow is Saturday. In Sunday afternoon my aunt is getting married and I told you this already, right? And I want to be there for the wedding. And so I'm going to be there for the ceremony maybe some of the reception but I might have to skip the reception. I don't know because I have to drive out to Webern's Saskatchewan tomorrow Sunday night because I've got to deliver there Monday morning. And then I've got to go to Regina drop off the second part of the load. It's only one piece. I'm driving all the way to Regina to Webern to get my reload which is going to Toronto. But I go home first for a few days because I'm picking that up on Monday and I don't have to deliver it to the till the following Monday. We'll talk about that later. We'll see you tomorrow. Don't forget to subscribe. Please a lot of you haven't subscribed already really does make a difference if you do hit that subscribe button and we'll try to get this channel up to 100,000. 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