So guys, I am back with another power world video and literally guys about 10 minutes ago Power world on Twitter dropped the early access road map and today we get into it all people future content Let's go now before we go any further if you get to play or own power world I'm giving away a couple of copies to beam of a chance of winning one simply drop a like on this video Leave a comment down below make sure you are subbed and have those notifications turned on and I will announce a winner in a couple of days Good luck everybody Okay, so literally about 10 15 minutes ago over on Twitter The official power word Twitter account tweeted out the early access road map which showcases and talks about New content coming low soon indeed. So let's check this out So the road map you can see on the screen now early access road map for power world addressing critical Issues. So this is currently guys currently numerous bugs have been identified and we are prioritizing fixing those Sometimes the world date may experience rollbacks the loading screen may persist when trying to load into worlds and so on I'm not gonna lie. I said this on my video yesterday. I mean playing on pc via steam I've had barely any issues. I'm playing in my own world I can understand the online servers mootware servers can be a little bit glitchy Considering there's so many people that are actually playing this game now I think it sold like 7 million copies on steam alone People on steam alone not including xbox and game pass and people playing over there on steam alone 7 million People have brought this game. So I can imagine the servers are a little bit crammed But what would you say is just be patient because obviously they're working on fixing it and making it a little more stable for players that are having trouble Okay, so improvements to implement ASAP key configuration improvements improvements to base pal AI And pathing yet like this. I do get the the base powers can be a little bit buggy I'm not gonna lie so many times mine just stand there doing absolutely nothing It also happens a lot. So I'm here and for people who have separate bases Let's say for instance, they have a base set up to farm Or for metal in a different location to their main base And when they go there guys, everyone's just standing there still or the powers are just standing still And actually don't start working until they get there again. I haven't really experienced this problem I mean, I've seen a few instances where I've gone to my second or third base and the powers are like Slacking but most of the time they are hard at work But yeah, I've seen plenty of people say that their powers won't actually start working until they're in the vicinity I've said a which to me kind of makes the point of separate bases a little bit irrelevant In regards to farming things and having your very own workforce So yeah, hopefully this is something they work on and fix a sap. Okay, so planned future updates PVP now PVP is absolutely massive And I mean, I'm not sure how they're going to incorporate it into this game Will they be online PVP servers where you can just simply go up and attack people after that for absolutely no reason Like we see an arc. I mean possibly I mean this makes sense and I'm pretty sure many people including myself would enjoy this I mean the island is pretty big servers I know they did say before release that They plan on introducing bigger servers for instance more players playing in each other. I think now it's like 30 players. I think they plan on doubling this But 60 players even on this massive open world Is still enough in my opinion, especially when you have guilds and clans and tribes and things like that So, yeah, I do look forward to seeing and hearing more about this PVP in arc for me Especially is one of the main reasons I played it and I think with power world It's just going to add a little bit more spice to it, which is what we all like. Okay. So raid bosses end game content Raid bosses people raid bosses What is this that sounds Amazing, but when I think of raids, I think of games like destiny I know yes, you get raided in this game. Your base will be raided But how does it make sense of there being raid bosses end game content? Um, I don't know. You'd let me know down below in that comment section I'm thinking maybe there's going to be dungeons put out there somewhere and so forth I mean there's dungeons now in the game obviously, but maybe harder dungeons But to be honest raid in my opinion and specifically using that word definitely seems to me like We may see a whole different setup in regards to fighting And encounters within this game, but we will see guys. We will see but raid bosses end game content Does sound cool to me. Okay. So pal arena PVP four powers Like what is this going to be like a battle arena? So this is actually how I was thinking PVP would have worked Maybe there'd be a battle arena somewhere where players meet up and fight PVP Uh, they throw their powers out and their powers just go at it one on one And that's what I'll imagine this is so it is a completely different setup from standard PVP Which is pretty cool. I would imagine as well if pal arena PVP four powers might be added Prior to PVP servers if that is a thing I mean a pal arena sounds absolutely amazing where players meet up in the same server Because obviously now it's pve it's not pvp and you can battle it out pal v pal Sounds cool to me and it puts a whole new insight and actually breeding and making your powers Better and stronger in my opinion. So yeah, that's pretty cool Pal arena. I really look forward to okay, so steam and xbox cross play again prior to release They did talk about cross play and that it was definitely going to be a thing So i'm actually glad to see that this is still a thing I mean cross play for this may bring along with it a few bugs may bring along with a few glitches And dodgy encounters, but I think they can get it to work I mean the game to be frank with years has released in overall a pretty decent state and considering the amount of players playing the game I still think servers are semi Stable and doing a better job than many of us ever would have thought if I would have said to you Within the first week, there's going to be seven eight nine million people playing this game So yeah, everyone would have thought straight away servers are going to crash Implode not even explode they're going to implode But yeah, I think the cross play between steam and xbox they'll hold out until servers are running perfect Okay, so moving on various xbox feature Improvements now. I don't know what this means. What features of pc got that xbox? Don't already have is there things missing? I don't know I mean I actually plan to play this on xbox But because I got early access on pc and I set up my base and did all this good stuff on pc I just stuck over here, uh, but yeah, I've got plenty of pals that play this on xbox. So yeah I'm actually excited and interested to see what this is Server transfers and migrations now. This is absolutely massive Let's say you want to transfer yourself off your one server onto a different server If that's what this is and you can take all your powers with you That's unbelievable. That's an amazing feature But we will see guys and me and I don't want to speculate on this because people are going to get hyped That's for sure. So we would just wait and see on this one Improvements to the building system again. I understand this building in this game can be a little fiddly I'm not going to lie and actually trying to place certain items like stairs In the right direction and place walls snap them to other things can be a little bit of a pain in the ass So i'm definitely glad they're seeing improvements being added to the building system And lastly guys they state new islands pals buses and tech Neeks like what what people already they're talking about new islands pals bosses and tech knowledges This is what I like to see I'll really do now if you have actually traveled around the map You'll come to a barrier beyond that barrier there's a whole new area like a big tree Where it seems as though actually people have glitched over to it But it seems as though this is definitely planned for future content. That's for sure in regards to pals There are actually two pals that were showcased prior to release I can't remember the names off the top of my head which ain't in the power decks at the minute So yeah, probably they're the two they're speaking about probably they're the new pals they're speaking about Or maybe they're just going to add way more. That's cool to know too buses. We all love buses pretty cool And then technologies pretty cool guys. We all love the technologies in this game So let's see what they add in the future. I've got a few ideas Don't really want to spy attack because you're probably going to say You're ridiculous the e pj, but either or guys the future old map for power world has been dropped And it's pretty cool in my opinion But there we have it guys let me know your thoughts down below Uh, are you excited? 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AI, artificial intelligence, has some dangerous connotations, right? So I like to reframe it not as AI, but IA, intelligence augmentation. I think we're going to see IA infuse all elements of our life. It's going to infuse everything from a physician standpoint about how I do a smarter workup and diagnosis. And when I figure out a condition you might have, I'll be able to do a much smarter, more cost-effective, and more timely therapy. Given how many mistakes we have, how many misdiagnosis we do, how big a problem medical mistakes are, I think AI or IA can play a really impactful role. It'll be something you have embedded in all your smart devices that will help track your health and give you empowerment as a consumer and a patient to take care of your own health and that of your family. And it's already starting to happen. With Watson having gone to medical school, we can access the API for Watson with our mobile devices. They're partnering with the apples of the world and the metronics. And I think it really has the opportunity to shift health care from the practice of medicine to the real science of medicine. So robotic surgery even remotely is in science fiction. Companies like Intuitive Surgical have advanced surgical robots for over a decade. They require often the surgeon to be there in the booth doing the procedure. It's even been demonstrated that that can happen across the planet. The real opportunity is we've found a fuse, AI, imaging, sensors, is in some cases for some of these robotics to become semi-autonomous, to de-skill advanced surgeries so that in a remote village with the right robotics, maybe a local country doctor can facilitate and enable more of a complex surgery that can never happen based on where the patient may be. Whether it's on the space station or Mars or in remote India, for example. So robotics blended with AI, blended with analytics and smart imagination I think can really transform health care.


cover this this little deal with regards to now myself and young Don and really just about anyone else that might want to pick a side I think I've been pretty clear as a matter of fact I know I've been pretty clear on what salvation is by the way we're gonna we're gonna talk about the foundation of salvation later on this evening as well so I would ask you to stay tuned for that I think it's very important matter of fact vitally important for us to get an understanding of what salvation is too many people hear something and run with it without investigating it now I'm gonna have this conversation I kind of wrestle with it because truth be told I didn't feel the need to have this conversation about this particular topic except for the fact I don't want it to seem as though that there is this issue this clash between me and young Don there really is not as a matter of fact I've stayed before even with people who are who I vehemently disagree with I don't have a clash with any of them I don't have an issue with them you need to understand I'm not necessarily moved emotionally because someone disagrees what had a lot plenty of people called me wolves and in the devil and this and that and so forth so I'm not bothered by that I really am not I think I can comport myself and handle the scriptures fairly well to where I can stand on what I believe and try to back it up what you're gonna see and I wanted to cover this I want to show how if you go back to the original video that I did concerning him young Don and Alan Parr I stated that there may not be that much disagreement after all maybe you need to flesh out what it is just saying what you're thinking I'll tell you why especially in this case someone like a young Don why I think that he came to the conclusion that he came to why he may still be there I don't have an issue with him was where so he told young brother if you hear me and yes I did call you young you are young there's nothing wrong with that someone older calling you young is not a put down as a matter of fact I wish they would call me young I wish I was still young can I give you all young folks and I mean young adults a piece of wisdom here's the wisdom embrace being young embrace it once you embrace where you are in life it'll be a lot easier for you when someone calls you young it's because you are that's not a put down it's just a statement of fact when someone call my my youngest daughter calls me old man what am I gonna say hey well I am it is what it is and I know what it is now there are certain things that are expected of us in our walk as believers if you're young you're expected not to be a young worldly person you're expected to be a young Christian person you're expected to give other young people a reason to see Christ they'll look at you and oftentimes they're gonna judge young Christian folk by looking at you something wrong with that at all as a matter of fact I wish when I was younger that I had as much one understanding but also them and vigor and determination now when I was when I was 20 I started off in ministry when I was 20 or 21 22 21 22 I forget been a minute as a matter of fact I still remember the very first day that I went out on the street witnessing it was July the 6th 1992 that was that that was the very first day that I hit the street sharing the gospel with any and everybody as a matter of fact can I give you all a quick little miraculous story I bought my friend's car you know you sometimes look at the car you can look at the gas gauge and see how much how many miles are left and this this little four tours was pretty accurate close to it at least and it said that I had about 12 miles worth of gas left well that was something to get to where I want to go to and then drive back and then maybe to the gas station hopefully I can find a few dollars when gas wasn't very high and as I was driving and I was driving to share the gospel I was sharing trying to go with a young lady who I thought was actually pretty cute too not the story the gas gauge started going up it went from 6 to 12 to 18 to 28 to 30 to 60 to 70 when I get back after now I'm out there sharing a gospel with a few different people I get back and my buddy time said you put in gas and card no he said well why is there he said not only does the does the deal say that there's 67 something worth of miles left it's close to the needle has gone up further I haven't done anything I haven't done now you all know me I'm not one of these guys that miracle and the Lord came down and put gas in the tank that's not me I'm just saying with what the deal said and now it could have been the needle was broken or what I don't know but my point is that I had a zeal to share the gospel what all that's familiar with or even really care too much about doctor which is a good thing for somebody like a young guy who's concerned about it at a young age I was not but let me say this you're gonna find out that some of our disagreements really on disagreement I don't disagree with a lot of what you said now I do disagree with some of the things you say and some of the points that you've made would have not I'll cover that but they really aren't that big deal because I understand this one thing that as long as the Lord stays the same does not come back and take any of us back and you can you got 10 20 30 40 50 years ahead of you I believe you are going to grow and develop that's what a young person does now you're gonna develop no matter what either for the good or for the bad but if you're a believer you should develop in a godly fashion I want to play a couple of clips to illustrate one how maybe we are probably saying the same thing and then two I am gonna I am gonna touch on your youth there's nothing wrong with that it's not a put down young folks stop thinking that when someone calls you young he's he's he's son in him he's put no he's not no he's not if I think in his case he's 28 he would be my third oldest child so that's not a it's not a put down guys it is it's just not as I mean I get to treat him like a child and I'm not treating like a child I'm treating like a grown man and I expect him to respond like a grown man I do think he's got some issues with some of his friends we'll talk about that in a little bit but I want to play a clip couple clip as a matter of fact and let's just see if if I said this or someone else had said the exact same thing would they be called someone who's kind of on the Lordship salvation side the heaven now when you go to heaven you will be judged on your good works that will determine your rewards see heaven is not the finish line heaven heaven is a starting line and I want to stop this as we go but heaven is not the heaven is the finish line heaven is our ultimate destination it's not the starting line right now the Bible says that if we believe which we all believe if we believe then guess what we have right now that same very light that will live in heaven we have it beginning now life into eternity we all agree with that but I'm not a stickler for that for that I'm not gonna make a big issue out of it I just want to make that part clear and based on how you lived your life here on earth it will determine your life for the rest of eternity think about that and so we should all be doing good works but your works don't mean anything if you're not saved and where have we heard that before I know I've said it thousand other Christians have said the same thing your works don't determine your salvation we should be doing works but they don't determine your salvation said it a billion times we're not talking about a works based salvation we're talking about a salvation based works big difference afterwards say what are we gonna do well the Bible tells us that we are going to have some works to show for it and you're not saved if you still believe that the reason you're going to heaven is because you've repented of your sins it's because you're trying to live a Christian life now I've said the same thing I've said the same thing now here's what and I'm kind of keeping an eye on the chats I see one particularly on what did you say I you think I'm jealous of Don cord respectfully I just heard of Don about a month ago I haven't changed my opinions about about the doctrine whatsoever it's a childish thing to say with all due respect young lady it really is say that I'm jealous of someone because I have a difference of opinion then are you jealous of me because you have a different opinion about me who would say that well I know who would say that someone young and I'm trying to get young people to not show their youth the Bible says this and let me let me just let me just put it on on the screen because I think it's I think it's vitally important he says to Paul I'm from Paul to Timothy he says let no one look down on your youthfulness but rather in speech conduct love faith purity show yourself an example to those who believe let's do that young people now the same thing to be held held or said about an older person because a person's older does not mean that we're supposed to just go off of what they say Benny Hinn is much older than I am that didn't mean I'm gonna listen to what he has to say he's proved himself to be a wolf of the highest category but the point is the point is I'm making my stance I'm making a statement I didn't go at I didn't I didn't attack young Don I'm not attacking young Don I love the young brother I really do so maybe sometimes that you know what I found out what I would help me a whole lot as I was really growing up as a matter of fact and older folks will tell you this now the funny thing is that when you talk to younger people they we tend not to listen to older people I listen I was I was in my teens before I was in my 20s before I was in my 30s before and you know what I what I thought at 20 thought I knew a whole lot thought I didn't couldn't tell me anything then when I got in my 30s oh I'm still young body still move well but I felt like I've gotten older and you couldn't tell me even more as I grew and mature and that's the issue maturing do you know what I learned to do more so not when I'm asked a question if you ask a question and people want to hear you say something that's different but when no one asks you you know what I've learned to do this very thing be quiet sometimes a response it necessary sometimes saying certain things and obviously I see people in the chassay say some things like okay well alright hopefully we can all be an example to each other and so the point of this is to show how close we are and you're gonna hear him say something that's like wait a second we have literally said just that if you think that's why you're going to heaven then you're not going to heaven you have to know you're going to heaven because Jesus Christ paid for your sins so if you don't know why you're going to heaven then you're not going you can believe have faith in Christ but then there's some some uncertainty you're kind of worried you're kind of wondering then that means you're not going to heaven wait a second I thought though we have to simply believe first well if I believe but now I'm just wondering I'm just worrying well that happens as a matter of fact we've got a book in the New Testament dedicated to people who are wondering who are concerned about their salvation who is that the book of Hebrews because their lineage their tradition their history tells them to so the point is the point is this guys if we say we believe well then fine I believe the issues two things one do you believe and believe in what and if what you believe in is that Christ who is the son of God who is God and flesh who died for our sins if you believe that that was a payment that God required for salvation the Bible says you shall be saved man the next question is did you actually believe what does mean by believe what what faith what does mean by faith and that's the issue make it very clear abundantly clear on this channel the difference between this this head knowledge in terms of faith who have this who have this what we call this mental ascension where they know it's true but they don't trust it with me I know this chair I use the same example over and over I know this chair can hold me but I trust it I demonstrated by sitting down that is my faith with me so let's go ahead and continue now I want to play up a part of a video clip that again when you listen to it tell me does that not sound like most people most of your understanding as it relates to salvation and how works work age I'm not implying that I changed because the Holy Spirit dwells inside me and did now by the way what this is this is a clip of him making a statement someone says wait a second you change it seems like you're kind of moving to the side a little bit and so I want to play this over he says no I'm not change and now he does make a pretty big error in one thing again not not destroying him because this but I want you all to understand why we have these these these these works coming out of us did a magical yeah of course I changed because the Bible tells us to change I'm not implying that I changed because the Holy Spirit dwells inside me and did a magical spell or whatever and and transform me I read my Bible and the Bible tells you how to live okay two things couple things first of all it's not the Holy Spirit some magical spelling you know the Holy Spirit is more than magical Holy Spirit is is exactly who moves you the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit is just not some spirit just some some some Joe it's the Spirit of God who is in us who and I keep going I keep going back to this particular passage and it says what it says it's as straightforward as it gets I will put my spirit that's a Holy Spirit within you and cause you to walk in my take in my teachings my statue my ordinance depending upon your your your version and you will be careful to observe my ordinances so what's moving you is the Holy Spirit that's why that's where the work come from it's not it's not so much the reading because anyone can read the Bible and still not do or perform or behave in the way that God wants them to it is literally the Spirit that has changed us we've got a new disposition it's not these works that we do that make us save or keep us safe but as he's going to say I'm telling you and guess what he's gonna say the same thing that these works give some proof that we're saved no free gracer tells you not to do works no free gracer tells you not to obey God man it's so sad man it really is so sad anyway JD rocks whatever when a fiber says can you explain and by the way we all agree that one saved always a what keeps you safe well do you have to remain in him do you have to endure do you have to bear fruit well the Bible is clear on that too we know we don't disagree with that we we just believe that every single person who is a true believer will abide in him forever we'll follow him we'll keep believing we'll bear we'll bear fruit why because Jesus literally tells us that he literally tells us that that's how you that the issue is and I want you all to pay it into the to the study this evening the issue is not that we can temporarily believe it's this continual belief that is what's describing the Bible how the Bible describes an actual Christian just go back to it playing Hebrews 11 hell hath faith hell of faith hall of faith it seems to encourage faith through our work similar to James 2 at face value yeah I mean it probably does listen this is what people don't understand it's so frustrating it is incredibly frustrating nobody is telling you not to do works no one is telling you not to change your life no one is telling you not to to try and be more Christ like this is not what we preach in the free grace camp what we say is that these things do nothing in regards to your salvation you're we agree we agree so far we sound like your salvation is contingent on none of it when you want to think about ask yourself why am I saved you think of the cross and you think of Jesus on the cross and the fact that you believe that he's the Messiah that is what saves you but we are if you read the Bible it tells you how you're supposed to carry yourself as a Christian and guess what how am I going to display my faith to you without works how do how would I so he says how am I gonna display my faith to you without works that's what we've been saying there are people who call themselves Christians who are not Christian there are some people who call themselves Christians who are concerned about whether they are not those people who are concerned about whether they are Christian or not either they are or they're not how do they verify this well I do believe there are people who do believe in a mental ascent fashion but are not how do they know what I do that it's a stupid it's a stupid out concept is a stupid question how can I show you something that is invisible my faith is immaterial it is invisible it is in my mind it is in my heart it's it's it's not something I can pull out and show you look this is my faith right here can you you can tell by the cross on it that I believe in Jesus you can't that's not how it works the only way I can show you it's just like how do I show someone I love them how do I show someone I love them it's not what we've been saying this is literally and I think what happens is the more you have time to grow and this is what I would say this also one I would not latch on to a particular doctrinal stance that I'm of this I'm of that I'm a Calvinist I'm an Armenian I'm a provisionist I'm at this I would not do that because you behold you now behold into these set of views and they must be perfect or else if they're wrong you're gonna find yourself trying to defend a wrong or erroneous aspect of it because this is who I am that I'm part of this club I'm part of this group with Paul says that's that's that's being carnal that is a sin guys if you say I'm this you're not you're not supposed to be I'm this are you with me I can't I can't be on my works that's it and so the Bible tells you of course that that is the only way you can display your faith right and you know it is necessary to display your faith in multiple contexts and I agree but that kind of seems like you're going against what you said now wouldn't say this I he says that dying is a false teacher point blank no one say that first of all dying is not a teacher and if he is you ought to be careful he's trying to be teaching you ought to be careful because let let not many of us be teachers there is a stricter kind of nation he's now let's just say this he is in mind if you're listening entirely too young in the faith to be teaching anything entirely too young there's a long way to go does he have a decent grasp of it he does are there some things that he that he's gonna grow in and mature and sure even in the way he displays these things without without question without question and so let me just do this sweetheart we're not you're not you're not listening you seem to be seen I don't know I don't know what the issue is with you and him and me I'm not sure what it is but throughout this whole conversation I'm sitting looking for epitech daughter of Zion you have not listened you don't care to listen which makes us wonder why did you show up and this isn't to put down this is for this is for people who need to understand first of all you guys understand me I want to do two things I want to help the body to grow in two ways I want us to grow in two ways one this way and also that way how does that happen this way numerically I want more and more people added to the body I want to grow this way in terms by understanding our deeper appreciation for the Lord that's what I want and then secondly I want us to fight off anything that's gonna harm that growth there are plenty of legitimate rules false teachers and false prophets out there who need no introduction that we need to be fighting and we cannot waste we cannot be stupid we cannot be silly we cannot be foolish and fight the wrong people here we are in a foxhole fighting the enemy and we turn our guns on each other shoot him no you shoot him no I'll shoot you if you don't that's not how that goes people ask me why don't why don't you go after this person go after that person go after that person I'm never going to treat a believer like a non-believer and I'm not going to treat a person who is trying to get an understanding who unintentionally may say something wrong I'm not going to be that person I'm not going to treat that person like an intentional wolf an intentional heritage that's not gonna happen and I'm gonna have an issue with you and and again you I think the issue though guys I think the issue is and I listen I appreciate what young Donna's doing you go to this channel and what you're gonna notice is there are a lot of young people there a lot of young people there I hope that because I don't watch I don't watch all of this stuff I really don't I really don't I hope they're getting a true picture of a gospel not saying that he's giving a bad picture bad presentation with everybody a lot of young folks I like to see I like to see young people growing in the gospel one of my other earlier ministries I was a I was a youth pastor for several years dealing with not just children and junior high students and high school but also the college and young adults folks like these people age dealing with them and having and I was not condemning you know you got this earring you got fish you got that what I know you're going to hell no I'm not doing that no I understand people are young people are young now I'm also the point to where I believe that a stern review can come comes about from time and time the Bible says again see what I'm supposed to do is this urge the young men to be sensible that's the that's the job and all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds with purity and doctrine dignified sound and speech which is beyond reproach so that the opponent will not be I mean will be put to shame having nothing to say about us I do my best to try to live that way and act that way I do I do and so the redeeming the best the best part about is that he's a Christian and that he's young and see here here's why I've got to let you go because you don't you all you're here young fellow all you're here for is just to cause problems so when you call a Calvinist a fool and that he's not a Christian then you clearly indicate that you have no idea what the gospel is about you tell me that he has to believe and then he gets to the point where he believes he believes but now he's trying to figure out how we come to salvation y'all do realize that's the crux of Calvinism how we come to salvation not in salvation and afterwards but how we get there he believes and you're gonna say that he's not a Christian because of do you know we've got and this is the biggest problem that we have with some of you guys is who your friends are some of you guys need to figure out who your friends are now I did hear something that that young Don said and he gave a shout out to a couple people that that supported me said I you know it's good to have support he mentioned one guy who I've never heard of but I guess he's got a channel I guess he's a fairly new Christian as well someone was telling the guy cast Cassidy Campbell oh I said right Cassidy Campbell who also I understand is young and faith amen amen we want more of you guys then you got another guy who who is a kjv Pharisee sniffing out Pharisees is go to I hate to even mention the guy's name because when you go to his channel I just want to see who was this guy who was this guy because I did a video on this he did a video on me which is how I knew about him and everybody on his channel got a 666 of horns a 666 across their head or horns guys I don't care if you're young Don or if you're old me or anyone in between you need to be careful with who your friends are you need to be careful with who you align yourselves with fine line yourselves up with people who have no mental or spiritual ability to discern they will do you harm they will do you harm is that is that true I are let me ask this by the way you guys that are that are that are making me say but I hope you guys I hope you all are in a local church I hope you all are part of a body by the way thank you all for the Super Chat so far thank you thank you Art Goon I like that name though Art Goon but I hope you guys are a part of a local body I hope that you all have older men and women and other Christians as well to look up to me I and you're right I believe I I believe just going off of what I see and what I hear I believe he is safe I really do I really I really do but there's a reason why God ordered things this way I want to get to something first and then come back to this to something that that keeps getting brought up y'all do realize that once we're saved once a person has placed their faith in Christ you only get there I don't know how many times you have to save or something before someone starts to realize hey is that what you believe you do you do realize that you can't become a Christian unless you believe in I've been saying for the last 40 years for the last 30 years I've been in ministry for 32 33 years been saying the same thing I've been saying the same thing and so you're right chess champ it's not my fault if you don't listen I can I can say it I can't make you listen so we are to do works without question can I can I just give you some basic straightforward scriptures because that's what we do here at the smart Christians channel we look at the Bible because that's what a smart Christian would do is actually look at the Bible so let's go and see what Jesus says but we already said what we already saw what God said God literally says that when he puts his spirit in us he's going to cause and the word cause you can have a problem with it I didn't write it I didn't choose that word but the word cause I saw means to do to make to make you walk because that was the issue prior to the cross was we would be in sin and and and we won't do anything about it left to our own devices hey Starboy Smith left to our own devices but let's leave with see what the Bible says the Bible says Jesus says this in John 14 12 truly truly I say to you that he who believes that is the high pistol on the bleeding one high pistol on ice aiming Ty ergot the reason why I said that the one believing in me Ty ergot the work ha ergot ergo I mean a go the work which I am doing that person Kakenas which is that person he will do poison that is the work that I do Jesus says the work that I am doing you will do the work that I do the switch Jesus says the work that I am doing or I do you will do also Benny says even much more more works more works you will do you will do works you just give yourself a big hug grab your shoulders just hold on you will do works if you are a Christian not you will do works to become a Christian not you will do works to stay a Christian if anyone tries to be justified by working by doing the law that person is cut off we're not saying that we are saying that you will do works Jesus says so God says so he says also this Jesus says in Matthew 5 12 rejoice and be glad for your reward is in heaven is great and in the same way they persecute the prophets I'm sorry I'm wearing the wrong one oh I'm sorry I'm right I'm sorry verse 13 you are the salt of the earth but if salt has become tasteless how can it become salty again it is no longer good for nothing except to be thrown out and trapped on the foot he says you're good for nothing look what he says now you are the light of the world a city on a hill cannot be hidden nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket I've always wondered that if you're saved and you don't have works or want to do works what it has that look like I'm saved and what do you stay in a cocoon because how do you walk how do you talk how do you go to work how do you drive how do you go to a girls store how do you interact with people without the infusion of the Holy Spirit showing up the love of him showing up how does that happen he says this let your light verse 16 shine before men in such a way that they may see what that they may see that you believe no they may see your works they may see your good words as a matter of fact let's pull this up I want you to see the word for works the word for works is ta kalai erga which is the good works your works the very same thing that Jesus the very same word that Jesus used was works you are going to he says you're going to cause him by the way by the way by the way now this is why I'm getting ready to get accused of being a Calvinist right here Ephesians 2 8 he says for grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourself it is a gift of God salvation and the very faith that you have according to this passage I won't go through the grammatical grammatical uh stands of this is that both of those are from God a gift the salvation that you have and the faith that brought it about now let's continue verse 9 not as a result of works we get that not as a result of your works but we just told us as as per God gifting it to you so that nobody can boast for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus huh problem created in Christ Jesus for good works and there's that word again ergoice good works which God prepared beforehand so that we walk in them he prepared what beforehand these good works so that we can walk in what what's at sea of walking them those very same work he created us to walk in those works now we are saved that's done now go do some stuff go get some other folks say how does how does anyone how did young Don how did Corey how did uh Elmo how did Tyra how did truth of talks how did Daryl King how did any of you guys how did Scott how did how did you guys come to Christ tell me how did you come to Christ someone shared the gospel that's the work by the way we don't how can they hear without a preacher how can they how can they want to preach without unless the preacher be sent he's got to go to them this isn't difficult guys this isn't a hard thing this is not a reason for us to fight do you understand this I hope I'm being clear now I'm so clear and so much on this that I'm to the point to where y'all saw me say it again if the young folk don't want to listen that's fine if the young folk want to come after look oh man you better back off for you get hurt oh man yeah so I got to be a whole man up uh um what show you what I got what you want some of this well I want a lot of that what look at your father getting ready to take you down but when I was in prison y'all know what I used to do can I tell you what I used to do now I don't recommend doing this you just gotta first of all being older helps when you when you're in prison I'll never forget this I'll never forget this I used to I'd work out in prison we do cross fit so we're gonna lift weights and we're gonna run and we're gonna jump and we're gonna move our body weight we're gonna move weights and I'm on the pull-up bar and there's this younger guy comes to me and says uh uh look your og you almost finished and I said I'm almost through it and I paused in the middle pull up I said wait a second what you called me what you mean you called me og yeah yeah what what's wrong with that ma'am you called me og og og now when I say og they don't really mean like it used to be original gangsters they mean like you know you're old guy then he said my bad school I just I didn't mean no offense he turned around and called me school which is short for old school hurt my heart but guess what I was old enough to be this fellas you know what was old to be his father I'm not sure if I was or not I'm not sure old enough to be his uncle how about that but then I would look at me on the on the on the weight pile that's what we call it in prison the we go to lift weights that I used to talk trash to the young folks I used to pick on them because I needed some motivation so I'd go and mess with them and and hey come on everybody in my look we call it a car little workout car they were all young except for no except for two guys two guys were older everyone else was younger and our goal was anytime these young pups want to step up let's go ahead and give it to them I wanted to be the baddest guy on the yard when it came to working out I wasn't as strong as every guys who could bench press a house and a car but hey I about pick on and mess with them and we were all cool they understood because the point is what we're trying to do is the the the old folks didn't want the young folks to do and go through and make the same mistakes as we did for some reasons just what it is in human nature we don't like to listen to older people I didn't I didn't and then when you get older what do you say matter of fact you get older you find yourself saying the same thing that your mother and father said in the same way I would love to know what is he correct on and that I'm incorrect on I said he said we both say that you come to Christ I think you guys are not listening I'm almost to that conclusion you come to Christ by faith only when you get to Christ what is Christ going to have you do sit there no he's going to move you and so God says Paul says Jesus says we're told to examine yourself find out make sure where's the disagreement at give me give me the passage because I haven't gotten one yet the passage that disagrees with me now whether you do a lot of works or very little works what have you that's not that's not the determination if if you're saved I don't even I don't see you enough to know what works you're doing that's for you to determine for yourself let every man examine himself not let every man examine everyone else let every man examine himself you know if you're only saying claiming Christ just for the sake of it excellent point chris because you're missing young brother talk about perseverance of the saints the p in tulip you hold to the perseverance of the saints is if you're a free gracer you better hold to it you better hold to it if you think that the holy spirit comes in you and doesn't keep you what does Ephesians 1 13 14 tell you sealed secure can I just let me just since I'm already in Ephesians let's just pull it up and you tell me I want you to tell me and the rest you guys and I'm gonna get to something about the company that we keep verse 13 he says in him you also after listening to the message of truth the gospel of your salvation having also believed you were sealed with him that is a holy spirit with a holy spirit of promise okay so a believer is sealed with the holy spirit I'm talking about it seal secure pay attention stop typing and pay attention young fella now now now uh old man is talking to the young fella listen for a second and hear the word I'm not making I'm literally reading the scriptures so he says that once you believe after having believed and what's the word for believe this is the word that I've told you guys is the issue when we determine what I what believe and believe is believe is the the way you believe that's not salvific way of believing versus the salvific way the one that the bible describes us as believers hop is to on the believing ones the believing thank you thank that's all I need to hear old fellow don't mind that the old fellow don't mind that after you have after you are the believing ones you are sealed as you're believing ones what keeps you sealed and the sealing is not a I'm gonna make you this that's not what that word means now we're gonna see what it does though the word sealed is like a like the roman seal around the temp around the tune says that if anyone breaks this now you've got the ire of the roman government you are you are sealed this is your protection from who from god none other than heaven itself verse 14 he says who is given as a pledge of our inheritance with a view of redemption of god's own possession of the praise in other words you cannot you're given the holy spirit as a and the word that's used here let's put on the screen the word that's used here in verse 14 is our bone haestine our bone now that is a down payment an early and earnest money deposit he's you've been given the holy spirit until and to bring you to salvation that's literally what the p is you are going to persevere do we have to endure yes it's those very enduring ones who are also the overcomings the overcomers are the ones who believe the ones who believe who believe are the ones who are born of god I covered that just recently watch those videos as well and I'm saying this because I don't want you I don't want you guys to run amuck of bad doctrine I don't want you because you can get off and so I just wish that and you can be correct matter of fact if you were if half of us were a little bit more humble in the way we approach the text and deal with folks it would be a whole lot better and you wouldn't have to come back and say I apologize or I'm now I believe this now and I believe this now and now when you this is how you know someone is young when every time you turn around they're changing their view on certain positions now that you shouldn't change you should but if every other week you've changed this you've changed that and so when when you say that you're for free grace what does that mean because well I'm for free grace and I'm I'm I'm explaining it are you with me but now there's an issue because when you get comfort and congratulations and kudos it's easy to go to the head and make you want to play to that particular audience there's one guy on his channel that I happen to see now I did see the guy cat castley campbell castley campbell don't know who much about this guy other than he's he's fairly new and he's more than welcome to have a conversation with me more than welcome more than welcome to this other guy the sniffing out Pharisee he's got Dom on this whole King James version thing listen to King James version is fine have no problem with King James version do I need to use the Greek of the King James version to prove the points let me just play a clip now this is the guy he's got I don't know if he's got I know he's got a 666 on my head so and you go to this channel that's all he has everybody he says 99% of people 99% of people don't know don't know the truth but he does all right tell you something about him already and then he's called out everybody with 666 on their heads fine but I just want to just show something a passage that he used now he's made a video about me which is why I I haven't seen the video I just saw it playing on on Don's video and so let me just cover this particular point look at the new king James because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life and there are few who find it the new king James is worse in this case it literally says salvation is difficult you don't have to know Greek to know whether a bible translation is good or not yeah I know he's speaking about me because right behind that here's a picture of me this is his video talking about me can I go to this particular passage that he's bringing up in the King James version he is getting on in this in this particular clip the new King James version of Matthew 17 13 and 14 broad is the way narrow is the way so forth and he says he doesn't like the fact that the new King James version says difficult and whereas the King James version says another word he likes the way that they matter of fact he actually likes the way that the NASB says he says that narrow is the way let's look at the word narrow not in the Greek of either the majority text or the critical text the NA 28 we're going to look at it in the received text the receptive Texas the text that is used for the King James version on this passage says and in this word that's right here this is the Greek word the word thlebo or thleba this word means to crush to compress to oppress to trouble to annoy bad or difficult that's literally what the word is he's complaining that the new King James version gives the definition that the Greek text that was used to translate the King James version what it actually means my suggestion is leave that kind of person alone not saying he's not a Christian or not I don't I don't know his heart well I'm I'm seeing his heart and the way he looks at everyone else who doesn't think the way he thinks he sounds like he's he's fairly new himself I don't know I don't know but let me see let me see if he says anything else worthwhile you look at the doctrine the Bible teaches this is clearly false doctrine this is damn double heresy heresy that'll send someone to hell if they so you mean to tell me if I believe you mean to me if I believe I place my faith in Christ let's say I believe your free gracer place my faith in Christ let's say I did it in North Korea didn't have a Bible heard the gospel and believed am I safe mr kjp Pharisee am I safe sure I am according to you but then I start reading in ESB or guess what yeah it's the most popular version on the planet the King James version it is not in every language on the earth and so what if I'm what if I'm somewhere where the King James version is not in my language or what if I got saved happens a bit before the King James version was even published what if what what if I actually read Greek if I'm if I'm if I spoke Greek and read Greek prior to six to the 1600s 1700s what what if then me tell you couldn't be saved but I believed I believed I know it's not difficult but it's difficult to accept for many people that's literally what the word says you're okay the the issue is the issue is the issue is what does the word mean he says you don't have to know the Greek you don't but you'd have but you know you have to know to get the King James version or the ESV or the ESV or any other version you know what you have to know you have to know Greek you have to know Hebrew that's what you have to know and so if you disagree only because you are ignorant of the facts not that you're an ignorant person but just simply ignorant of the facts and so and I'm not I'm not attacking the King James version I've never attacked the King James version it's not my favorite nor is ESV nor is in ESV nor are any versions I don't have a favorite version I don't and so when I look at them King James version new King James version matter of fact I can most of the passes that I quote will either be new King James or King James version from memory that that's that's what it is so I don't have a problem with either of those the issue is when you say that someone who quotes out of none of them that that person they're wrong and now we're talking about a damnable heresy how could it be a damnable heresy Mr. K. J. B. Pharisee if if they believe if they believe how could how could that be because all I have to do is believe but then they went a different direction and oh well did I saved huh which isn't what Alan Parr was saying there are a lot of people that profess to be Christian who are not and so if I decide to look at the Greek you punish me you upset with me you say so because you're ignorant of how the bible was put together that's all not a bad thing you can grow the one thing you can do is grow out of ignorance you really can it's not a terminal condition it really isn't they always believe that salvation is difficult the NASB is actually good on this passage specifically but let's look at another verse starting with the King James John chapter 3 verse 36 he that believed on the sun hath everlasting life and he that believed not the sun shall not seal it okay so his point is uh King James version only listen King James version for the rest of life I don't have a problem with you reading the King James version I have a problem with you saying the King James version is the version is the only version how do you know guys that your version isn't the version that came from heaven how do you know simply start comparing the numbers in first and second kings first and second sang on first and second chronicles and start start comparing the numbers was it 700 or 7000 chariots was his person 42 or 18 there are what we call copyist errors even in your translation in the King James version as well did that come from heaven the error no it came from a copyist the copyist the people who translated the bibles who wrote them down were not God ordained they did the best they could and there were mistakes as made I'm going to show you guys uh I'm I'm not picking on King James version I'm it's in the NIV as well it's in the uh new King James version it's in the ESV it's in the NASB and so as students of the Bible we should go and find out what the truth is the Bible is wonderful no errors in its original but if Joe Blow goes and copies it and makes a mistake I'm not going to impugn God or the writer's integrity because this guy 500 or a thousand years later wrote the wrong thing down now that's not on them that's on that's on guys on them the kjv was translated by 47 greek scholars who all in their annotations stated that there's much work to be done and needing more and needing more transcripts that's what makes you a kjv Pharisee not the folks I love the kjv but some of you guys are kjv Pharisees and then what happens is you guys begin to idolize it can I ask you guys a question can you go to can you go to heaven if you idolize something else if you idolize something else you can't be not you can't be an idol of anything else again I if you love the king james version fine if you love the ESV fine in if you look fine but what we cannot do is separate on the basis of translations we can't do that that that's not a very mature thing to do if you want to find fine I promise you I promise you you're not being a very good steward of the work can I ask a question not to be confused with ready for Christ can I ask a question now here's my question you said but it seems like you have over analyzed the word of God I believe you said that you spent 15 years in prison studying the bible well I wasn't there 15 years I was in 13 years I studied the bible and preached the bible preached the gospel what should I been doing I want you to think about what you just said with all the respect brother or sister with all the respect how do you how's it possible to study too much is can you can you possibly get too much of it too much of a good thing at what point do you study too much you know what I'm saying and all I've got is the word now I'm not over studying it it's just that if I say someone says well no this means that way second that word that you're talking about doesn't mean that what should I do if I happen to know that this word in the Hebrew means this and then you say it means that then what should I do when the man says that an elder or pastor should be the husband of the first wife like that's not what that word means that word me has to start being first what should I do I I studied enough don't let anyone else know no that's not how that works you know and so I'm going to I told you guys I'm also going to have a an actual an actual scholar Greek scholar the one who who kind of kind of infuse me with this desire to even learn the Greek even more so um he's an when I say a scholar I mean a scholar not not just some guy just an actual scholar I'm going to bring him on we're also going to do this a little a little uh example study on how that you can do how textual criticism done just a little basic little practice on how how textual critic is done you know too much dumb it down yeah I try to and I don't think see here's the thing though here's the thing and I know what you're saying you don't have to dumb the word of God down I think that we call people up to the higher standard of the scriptures that's what we do whether you are on the free grace side or the lordship side by side which by the way most of those people on both sides are saying a lot of the same thing but here's what I'm saying and this is the point I said it with the original video fighting Alan Parr is not the fight to have fighting uh young Don I'm not gonna fight with you that it ain't gonna happen there's a bigger fight to fight there's some people y'all y'all did see this movie that's coming out with these people who believe that the only way you can be delivered is if someone puts their hand on y'all y'all did see that right that's the fight work worth fighting got too much to have too much to do to spend too much time calling a brother who I disagree with a heretic or falsely no got too much time for that I mean not enough time for that and so no I don't I don't I don't I don't begrudge the young brother at all I love him to death want to see him do well I want I can't wait to see him in five years and 10 years in 30 years now will I be on YouTube in five or 10 years I'm more than sure I won't be not not in this capacity more than sure so and you're jealous of him I just I just learned about him a month or so ago not just a matter of fact I'm leaving this so but the point is guys we are on the same team we are on the same team somebody got dismissed we are on the same team let me do this real quick because I want I want the I want the theatrical effect for this we are on the let me just do that we are on the same team we're on the same team we're on the same team we're on the same team did I say it enough we're on the same team me young Don Allen par I'm sorry I'm sorry uh k deb true uh let's see Tyra chest champ truth of talks miss galloway dutch and dutch's mama I don't know if you're still here Carol perfectly imperfect we're on the same team I can really fight at each other because I disagree with how you said where you said at the table you didn't do dishes no on the same team and so I wanted to be clear I don't want you to hear this I want you in my heart we're not we're not enemies we're not gonna we're not gonna we're not gonna we're not gonna do this I think you're I think your overall assessment is wrong I think how you get there is correct because I'm listening to what you're saying I'm listening to what you're saying and you literally said a lot of the same things that we say so guys I got to get ready to go I got some things I need to do and then I've got to get ready for this next broadcast we are talking about the one topic that we do not talk enough about that is atonement it is the very foundation of our salvation so if you want to have an in-depth discussion studying the scriptures as we're supposed to not studying too much but going into what the scriptures are about how we get to the salvation what's about God didn't do a new thing he just gave a new new element for his plan of salvation amen


nts about the implementation of this, you know, there was some suggestions from the public that there be some kind of dialogue involved. Um, and that there be a, you know, that some kind of, um, some kind of process where there's a collective, um, establishment of what these procedures would be, or that there's a process for, for filing complaints. If people feel that they're not being treated fairly and so forth. I'm wondering if that needs to be here or what's the thinking there in addition to which, uh, how the good neighbor rules and so forth. Um, and the limits to those, um, and what they include, what they don't include would be established. Um, if in fact the goal is for, uh, you know, some kind of, um, rather than flexibility, some kind of, um, some kind of clarity or, you know, finite definition of, of what we're talking about here. So there's a question about the procedure and the degree to which the different sides will be included. Um, and then the, I don't know how significant this is, but the, the mention of, um, city of Santa Cruz will actively seek funding. Um, that's mentioned a couple of times. I'm curious what the, what's meant there and what happens if that funding is not found or, you know, what the significance of the actively seeking funding is in, in putting that in, in the document here. Um, those were two of my questions really how the process questions of complaints in terms of how this is being implemented, um, that there's really procedures to hear, um, the different sides, um, as well as the question about, um, you know, that this can still be implemented and that the major point, which is that if the, if the bases are not available, um, that this can't, that, that, uh, people are able to stay where they are, um, not be contingent on the funding, uh, not being found and so forth. So that, that question, um, is just whether that, that might be interpreted in some kind of different way. The question of seeking funding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, just, uh, one quick comment, um, before I send it to you, Commissioner Schiff, Reynolds is, um, so the, the, I guess this is kind of to add on to Commissioner Greenberg's question. So the way that I read the actively seek funding is to provide additional services other than the safe parking program, um, that could help provide a broader range of services. So it doesn't, to me, seem related to, um, the safe parking program happening or not. So maybe you could just clarify that in addition, um, because it seems like it's, it's for something like a mobile mechanic to actually help with repairs or fuel vouchers to actually offset some of the costs. But it, it wouldn't, it wouldn't prevent people from accessing the program necessarily. So go ahead, Commissioner Schiff. Thanks. Um, I would say that in terms of the actively seeking funding from my perspective, those are aspirational. Um, they are, you know, essentially identify them identifying objectives that would be nice to achieve if there was funding available to provide additional services to people as, um, you know, Chair Dawson says it doesn't really affect the basic requirements of the program. So the other question you raised, I think it's a really, you know, it's sort of, in a sense that's the intention of the operation to management plan. That that's going to lay out a procedure and, um, I guess it would make, it would, it wouldn't, you know, I'd be willing to add another component or another, um, bullet that, that plan would include procedures for, um, filing and resolving complaints. Um, because I think that would be a desirable thing to do. So is that the kind of thing you're out of mind? Yeah, I'm getting the sense that there is concern that, um, that there be some process for adjudicating, you know, when there's, um, a feeling that proper procedures are not being followed. And thank you. Does that make sense to you? I'd be happy to add that as a friendly amendment, if it's okay with the second. Yeah, I'm looking at that. Okay. And could you clarify of what you're adding? Chair Schifrin, just so the other commissioners are clear. Um, I'm going to share my screen. I just, I typed it in as procedures under the, the bullet to the operation of the management plan that should contain the following. I've added procedures for filing and resolving a complaint. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Um, so, uh, Commissioner Macidi Miller. Thank you chair. Um, and thank you commissioner Greenberg for your comments. Um, your, your comments are reinforcing my, my sense that things are, are, um, you know, what is actively seek funding really mean me? Why do we have something in here that has an ambiguous definition that's aspirational that, you know, how do you, how do you even know if the city is actively seeking funding with the criteria? What are the factors? Um, you know, as I think more and more about these, um, amendments that are being amended in real time. Um, it's, it's, I'm more convinced than ever that, that, um, you know, accepting this tonight would be, uh, a disservice to the community. It would be a disservice to, uh, uh, this is such an extensive rewrite. The public hasn't had an opportunity even to consider these comments and, and share their thoughts about this, much less the other departments and other outside agencies. Um, for example, one, one, um, one of the criteria is that the sites must be available in the city of Santa Cruz. Um, I'm not, I don't remember exactly where that is. I think it's number four. Um, you know, site locations must be in the city. It's like, well, that seems really overly restricted to me. Um, so what you're saying is that there's a, you know, a county, a county institutes, a state parking program and they have a space that's just over the, you know, it's in live up just over the outside the border with the city that, you know, that wouldn't qualify as an open space. And it's like, there's some things here that are, that are just not being bought through. And I'm really worried that we're, um, if this gets approved that, you know, we're, we're just creating a monster here that, uh, that, that basically makes this program very good program, you know, to try and provide a facility as much needed.  So I'm, uh, those are my comments. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Commissioner Seedy Miller. Uh, we'll give Mr. Butler one more shot here and then we're going to take it to a vote. Mr. Butler, did you have a comment? Thank you, Chair Dawson. Um, I was just going to mention that, um, Commissioner Seedy Miller hit on, um, one of the points that I, um, uh, had actually forgotten the, in the city. Um, and if it's, uh, if you're interested, I have, uh, three words that could be modified there, um, to, um, to address that. Um, uh, and if it's also the will of the commission to, you know, continue this, um, and bring it back so that we can, um, uh, work on the recommendations in the spirit of, um, what the commission has, um, sought here. We're happy to do that as well. Um, so I'll leave it to the discretion of the, um, the commission as to whether or not they want to hear the three words. I want to hear the three words. I'm always up for doing the three words, please. I would, uh, add, uh, for under where it says site, location and then shall be provided in the city of Santa Cruz. So then it's not dictating that they're there. Um, but is that all of them are there, but that some of them shall be. And I think, you know, we fully intend that that's the case. Um, my one other change, which I didn't raise before, and that's why I didn't raise this because I thought it was tied up with that. I would get rid of portable because there might be, um, a lot of people who are actually, um, permanent. Well, at certain locations. Those are the three word changes. Um, the problem I have with the, the locational change you're recommending is that one of the complaints we've got from, um, in the testimony is that it's a hardship for people to work down on the website after drives to act those to find the place. Or even a live open. So Cal. And so it's, I think it's already, um, as you know, we did receive testimony that having to drive it off for, for people who have a hard time paying for gas is a hardship. And, you know, we saw the three miles from the west side to the east side while having it outside the city means it's even further.  That was, that was a thoughtful, um, solution, uh, revision in terms of trying to respond to the concern that people raised about how far they have to go. Uh, I am happy to take out the word portable. Uh, if it's, uh, acceptable to the second. And, uh, because I think that's, uh, that's a good suggestion. Well, I think, uh, to make your comments, but I'd like to say some final things in regards to why, from my perspective, it makes sense to do this tonight rather than, uh, putting it all. Okay.  I know it's getting late here. And, um, I would just like to, again, thank the staff for, um, one, helping me understand, uh, what was, uh, before us today and help to facilitate this meeting and being so gracious and getting back to me so quickly with the comments, um, and all the work that went into staff report. Um, but I do have some kind of basic, uh, things that I want to say about, um, sort of how I see our duty to act as the commission. Um, and, and really what, what is that what we're talking about is that people's right to sleep and, um, where, where they're allowed to do that, right? And it is a constitutional right that people have to, to be able to sleep, um, just full stop. And I really believe that it is, um, unequivocally within our purview that if, if we are going to be issuing permits or anything, um, that relates to a person's right to sleep, um, that we need to take that into account. And that needs to be a kind of the primary goal for whatever we're doing. Um, and I do think that is before us with these permits. And we are not, um, the ordinance itself is a separate issue and, and we have not spoken about the language in the ordinance tonight, but what we have talked about is if, if we are going to, uh, move forward with these restrictions, how do we do it in a way that maintains people's right to sleep? So I just want to say that that is, is a major thing that we haven't talked a lot about, but that is really what it comes down to, is that people have a right to sleep. And then if we're affecting that right, we need to be, be very thoughtful about how we're supporting people's right to do that. Um, I also want to just talk about, um, the part in the staff report that often gets brought up in Santa Cruz is about health and all policies. And the section in the staff report kind of really, um, it really stood out to me because it had an analysis of, of, of the impacts to the environment. And the impacts to the neighborhood, but it included no, um, analysis of the impact to the unhoused community, um, taking shelter in their vehicles. And when that ability for them to sleep is disrupted. Um, and, and the impacts to them so that I just am hopeful that if we continue to bring up health and all policies and, and we conduct these analysis that they're comprehensive. Um, and they're holistic in, in what we're, what is included in the staff report and for the public, because I am not a public health expert, but I am able to Google and I got a stack of letters and I got a stack of literature, uh, that is peer reviewed that supports that there are, um, very wide ranging and negative impacts, um, that occur to folks that have unsedable, unsecure housing situations, um, that are living, um, taking shelter in their vehicles and their ability to sleep is disrupted. So when we talk about health and all policies, let's talk about health and all policies and, and not just, uh, put it in there and check the box. Um, so, and then kind of the last thing I wanted to say is, uh, again, um, this is, this is in the staff report and, and I think this is, um, a mythology that I want to take the opportunity to call out in any forum that I can that, and I think that, um, there's a lot of controversy and there's a lot of complexity, um, to finding solutions, but there are solutions to, um, helping people secure housing. Um, but I do want to call out the mythology that there currently exists enough housing and enough services that are needed to match the need. So it's called out in the staff report and I've, I've heard, um, staff and other comments that, you know, we just need to hook these people up with services and then there's a, there's a straight path to housing. And I think you will get universal agreement among providers and practitioners that that is not the case. So that being the reality of the situation, that there is not enough housing to meet the need. Um, we need to be, um, mindful of providing real solutions that actually support folks that are taking shelter in their vehicles. And I feel, I feel like the conditions of approval really add some shape and, um, give some strong guidance while still allowing flexibility to build a program that actually does what staff says the intent is, which is to actually provide more security, more stability and more predictability, um, for folks that are having to take shelter in their vehicles. So, um, I strongly support the conditions of approval. I strongly support of moving this forward so that we can actually, um, provide services, um, and bolster their services were available. So, um, looks like, um, Commissioner Maceti Miller. And then I think we'll go ahead and go to, uh, uh, uh, Commissioner Maceti Miller. And then I think Commissioner Schiffer wanted to kind of make some closing comments. Uh, go ahead, Commissioner Maceti Miller. Thank you, Chair Dawson. I have, uh, I guess a point of clarification and a request. Um, is it possible to introduce a substitute motion at this point in the proceeding? Uh, yeah. You can always make a substitute motion. Yeah. I'm sorry. I think you can always make a substitute motion. Okay. Then I'd like to make a substitute motion. And, uh, my substitute motion is that this matter being returned to staff. Or for the consideration of the discussion that took place here tonight. That the conditions of approval, just the conditions of approval will be evaluated. And, um, and an analysis done for coherence and completeness and, um, uh, uh, legality and, um, you know, conflicts with other, um, rules and such, um, coordination with other agencies, other departments. And that this matter come back to the planning commission, as, I suppose, a date certain office, are at or at another commission hearing. So that the commission has an opportunity to review these changes and the public has an opportunity to weigh in on the changes that are being proposed here. I think it's a substantial change in what was proposed originally and I think it would be wise and prudent for us to be careful as Chair Dawson has indicated, you know, this is important and we don't want to do something that has some unintended adverse consequence. So that's my motion. Okay, second. Okay, second for motion by Ms. C. D. Miller. I might need a little parliamentary procedure help from Mr. Butler right now with the substitute motion. So how do we proceed with the vote on these? So at this point you would vote as to whether to accept the substitute motion and then you would debate the substitute motion and vote on the motion itself. So the first vote would be on whether to accept the substitute motion. Okay, and if I may, I would suggest, you know, we could, I would suggest to date certain and we could return in two weeks time if it is, if that's the will of the commission. Okay, so would the maker of the motion like to amend it to the date certain for two weeks? Yeah, that's fine. Two weeks date certain. I wasn't sure about that, so I'm fine with that. Fine with the issue. Okay, so what we have on the floor is to continue the item to date certain to the next planning commission meeting and so this vote is to accept that motion. Could we have a roll call vote and are we allowed to discuss this at all or we have to vote before we discuss it next? We can't, we can't discuss. So this is to put the motion on the floor for to go ahead Mr. Butler if you want to clarify. Yeah, I was I was just doing that. I have it open on my tablet. I think what I'm reading is that we would accept the motion for consideration and then we would have a discussion and then we would vote either yes or no on the motion. I think that's how that goes. Chair Schifrin or former chair Schifrin, do you have any insight? It seems weird that we can't. I think the substantive motion is always very weird. The process that's first accepted and then you get to vote on it. You don't want to vote on it. Why would you accept it? You don't want to support it? Why would you accept it? I mean it seems like a pretty weird process but I'll defer to staff on what the procedure is and whether we can debate acceptance or not because I think that's a good question that Commissioner Greenberg has asked. And mostly I'm just wondering if we can discuss it before we vote yes or no. Yeah. Well I think the procedure just to clarify how I understand the procedure is this initial vote would just be to accept the the motion for consideration. Then we could discuss the motion and then we would vote yes or no on the motion. So there would be a discussion but there's this weird first vote to bring it under consideration. So are we going with that Mr. Butler? You're on mute. Sorry about that. I believe that is the case. It is not addressed in the planning commission bylaws. I just got to the place in the council bylaws. If you want to give me one moment I will read that or I'm happy to read aloud. Any council member, again this is the council bylaws and we refer to those if they're if it's not addressed in the planning commission. Any council member with the exception of the presiding officer may make a motion to amend regular motion or a motion to substitute a new motion for a regular motion. A motion to amend and a substitute motion are both debatable. So there's the answer. If the nature of the motion is in question the presiding officer shall decide on whether the motion is a motion to amend or a substitute motion. If the motion to amend or substitute motion is seconded the council shall first vote on whether to accept the motion. If the council votes to accept the motion the council shall then vote on the amended motion or the substitute motion. If the council votes not to accept the motion the council shall then vote on the original motion. So I can I can decipher that for you if you need it. But you may debate it now and there are two votes is what that boils down to. You may debate it now and if you vote, you first have to vote to accept the substitute motion and then you would vote on the motion itself. Okay, so we have two points of debate if we choose to take them. Right now what is on the floor is the substitute motion to continue this item dates certain two weeks forward. Does anyone want to make a comment before we take a vote to accept the substitute motion for consideration? Chair or Mr. Sissons? From my perspective, I don't support a continuation. I don't think it's, I don't believe that it's justified at this point. So I would not vote to approve this substitute motion. So it seems weird that I would be voting to accept it, especially since we can debate it. So my sense is, I don't think we've been talking about this for quite a while. We've got a lot of testimony indicating that the ordinance and the permit provisions are really don't strike a good balance between the needs of the fixed housing residents and the needs for the oversized vehicle residents. This, what came before us tonight, represents what the staff felt as a way to move forward with the staff was recommending as a way to move forward. I think that from my perspective, the original motion on the floor to revise the conditions is an improvement and has done a better job at carrying out what the staff was saying the purpose was and I don't see any need to continue it. So I'm not going to support the motion to accept this substitute motion. Okay, thank you, Mr. Schifrin, and Mr. Carmen. And Commissioner Schifrin with respect, I really do appreciate the work you've done tonight. I think your comments just now would actually be better placed after we hold a vote about whether or not to accept the substitute motion if after debate the substitute motion fails, it will be reverting to the hastily drafted improvements to the conditions of approval. So for that reason, I'm going to be supporting accepting the substitute motion. Okay, so again, what we're voting on right now is accepting for consideration a substitute motion to continue that this item to date certain in two weeks. So can we have a roll call vote to accept this substitute motion for consideration from the clerk? Mr. Conway. Hi. Humbert. Hi. City. Unmuted, aye. Maxwell. No. Schifrin. No. Dawson. No. So motion to accept for consideration, the substitute motion passes four to three. And so now we will bring up the motion for debate on whether to continue to date certain in two weeks from now. Anybody have comments before we take a vote? Commissioner Conway. Yeah, thank you. I really do appreciate this whole discussion as I stated earlier. I think it has been really useful to discuss even though the hour is getting late, commissioner Schifrin's suggestions. I think it's been really helpful the specificity of the input that we've been able to provide to staff and the very interested parties has been very useful and clearly this language needs to be tightened up, cleaned up and aligned. Well, I will be voting in favor of it. Okay, any other comments before we take a vote to, oh, Mr. Schifrin, go ahead. Well, I'm not sure I agree that it's clear that it needs to be sent through the ringer by staff. What we got tonight, I felt in terms of the recommendation was quite inadequate in terms of providing protections for people in oversized vehicles, allowing for and from my perspective in excess of discretion. So I think that the proposed language which has been amended based on staff review and input, there doesn't seem to be a legal problem with it. We can put it off and have the same debate in two weeks and probably irrespective of what we do then it's going to be appealed one way or the other. So I think if people feel that the changes are worthwhile, I think that's what it comes down to. If the proposed revisions seem desirable, I think we should vote on it tonight. If, you know, I understand that some of the commissioners don't think some of them are desirable and we prefer not to vote on them tonight and to have staff have a chance to make another case to change them. But, you know, I think it comes down to what our commissioners added to the changes. And obviously as the make of the motion for those changes, I think they're worth making and I think we should do it tonight and not just put it off. Okay, thank you, Commissioner Schifrin, Commissioner Kennedy and then Commissioner Greenberg. Go ahead, Commissioner Kennedy. In addition to not liking some of the changes politically, I just have serious concerns about process and having things sprung on us and the public at the last minute. Thank you, go ahead, Commissioner Greenberg. Commissioner Greenberg, you're on mute. Well, I think that, you know, the response, the effort of this response has been to take into consideration the population that's housed, not all of which, you know, some of whom spoke on one side and, you know, populations in the vehicles as well as others who are housed who spoke on another side and that this was a really sincere and effective effort to, you know, strengthen the permitting process and so forth in the State Parking Program and I really appreciated that the legal counsel was able to weigh in and that the planning program was able to weigh in and I think, you know, nothing is going to be perfect but that it's important to move forward in a way that takes seriously the concerns in the way that what has been proposed does and so in that spirit, I would support the original motion. Okay, great. Looks like we are at a vote and just to clarify, so this is a vote to accept the substitute motion. No, this is a vote to approve the substitute motion. Sorry. To approve the substitute motion. Sorry, get late. Okay, so could we have a roll call vote from the park, please? Yes, and just for clarification, the date would mark as for the roll call, Commissioner Conway. Hi. Inver? No. No. No. Okay, so that brings us back to the original motion that happened several hours ago. Not quite. Which is to approve the coastal development permit and the design permit with the proposed changes to the conditions of approval. Clark, did I state that correctly? I was just saying as amended tonight. Okay, as amended tonight. So is everybody clear what the vote is? It's, yep. Okay, Clark, can we have a roll call vote? Well, I support most of the language. I am going to vote no because I don't, I think it's half-baked. Yes, aye. This needs to go through staff and they need to think about it. Motion to approve as amended tonight, the coastal development permit and the design permit passes four, two, three. And what about that? Thank you, everyone. We are not taking action on the appeal. Mr. Butler can clarify that, but I was directed by staff that we are not taking actions or making findings on the appeal. We were just to take action on the coastal development permit and the design permit. Is that correct? That's correct. Hearings on appeal are de novo, so you're acting on it as a new application before you. Okay, thank you very much. I also just want to take this moment to thank all the members of the public that both wrote in and attended the meeting tonight. I know that all of the commissioners take their service very seriously and we all dug into the hundreds of pages this week and probably before. So again, thank you for your participation. It really helps inform our decisions. Okay, let's see if we can wrap this up. Are there any informational items? Doesn't look like. Got one. Okay, go ahead, Commissioner Kennedy. There's a process beginning next week regarding the city's climate action plan and I'm working with the working group on that. So in future, not now, but later, maybe we should talk about a little sub video some way for planning commission to work directly with that effort or at least I can give reports if people are interested. I see an innate link between climate change and planning. Absolutely. Thank you, Commissioner Kennedy. I see Mr. Butler, did you have anything you wanted to add to the information line? I can just provide a quick update on upcoming items of planning commission and council. If the commission is interested. Sure. Thank you. Briefly, of course, at the March, well, at the March 8th meeting, the council will be hearing a wide range of updates on homelessness and the city's homelessness response, including a three-year action plan that may be of interest to some of the commissioners here, particularly given the discussions that we've had this evening. And we, on the 22nd, we're also, I should mention, bringing the small units ordinance, the flexible density units that you all considered a month or so ago. That will be on the 8th as well, going to council. Then on the 22nd, we will be bringing two items, the small cell wireless ordinance. That is an update that went to the coastal commission. Coastal commission had some changes, and so that goes directly back to the city council. And then we are also providing the city council with the annual housing element and general plan update report. And we will bring that back to the planning commission as an informational item after it's been prepared. We have, on the planning commission of the 17th, we've got two items. There's a change to the green building fee. It's actually just a minor change in the ordinance language so that the council will set that fee by resolution rather than being in the ordinance itself. And then we are currently looking at the 415 Natural Bridges Project, which is an affordable housing project right at the rail trail line and natural bridges there. And then further down the line, we've got objective standards and even past that, we're looking at bringing the downtown plan, the alternative analysis to the commission for your recommendation. Okay, action passed. All right, next, any subcommittee advisory reports? I had a request on the information items. I wanted to ask the commission committee and maybe staff to agendize a report on the climate action plan. I think it would be very helpful commission to get that report. So I appreciate your agreeing it up and I look forward to, I think we should maybe ask staff when would be a date that we could get something or what would work best for you, Commissioner Kennedy in terms of bringing that forward. Well, we're just getting started. So what didn't I report in two weeks on information and we could talk about it. And maybe we make a small subcommittee or something. Yeah, so, yeah. So there was no subcommittee or advisory or reports. So items to report to future agendics and we just go ahead and make sure we know in the minutes that we wanna continue to discuss bringing that report on a future agenda. Okay, thank you. Okay, we have, sorry, absolutely. Sorry, the point about the housing elements that's on the 22nd at the commission. And are we, what is the process whereby we weigh in on the housing elements? I'm just, I just wanted clarification on that. So that's going to the city council on the 22nd. I'm sorry, I meant the council. I said commission. I might get my dad. So this, all that is, is this the annual report? So it's what it is, is we calculate all the numbers of permits, one that have been applied for and two that have been issued and three that have been finaled as well as a range of other data points. It's really a really great resource document. And our team's been spending a lot of time putting that together because the state has actually increased the number of reportable requirements substantially in recent years. So we will be presenting that information. It's due to the state every year before April 1st. So we'll be presenting that information to the city council in advance that the council has to accept it. And then we'll be forwarding it on to the commission and commission typically has questions about that as well. And we're happy to have a discussion with you about any of those questions. Okay, thank you. So we can discuss the way in which we'll respond to that or the way in which we may or may not weigh in on relating to the housing element. Is that, I mean, is it, yeah. Yeah, is that something we could formally put up in the agenda or we do formally put it on the agenda each year? Yes. It's an informational item. There's no action that's necessary related to it. But there typically is discussion regarding it. Commissioner Conway, go ahead. Well, I just wanna clarify that this is not the housing element itself, and which is gonna be a long process and commission will have many opportunities to weigh in on how we're addressing it and many other questions. This is an annual report that's due, it's always a scramble because it is a huge amount of information and to get it to the council in time is always a scramble. So we get to the benefit of it later, but we're not gonna be changing the report at that time. Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you, Commissioner Conway. And so understanding what's coming down the road in terms of when and in what ways we will be weighing in post-April 1st, I guess would be really helpful to understand the plan. This is an informational item for staff to present on sort of the process. The process, yeah. A future meeting, would that address your concerns, Mr. Greenberg? That would be super helpful, yeah. We're happy to talk about the process. We typically give a brief presentation similar to what we do to council because the data is really, it's rich. So there's a lot of detail in there. Yeah, okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Beller. I really appreciate that. Of course. Okay, thank you. Anything else, items to refer to future agenda? Okay, I just wanna thank everybody for attending. Thanks, my colleagues and fellow commissioners and I will bring the March 3rd, 2022 planning commissioning meaning to adjournment. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, good night. Bye.