Oh, I'm live on Twitch. I can hear it. OK. Hey, hi everyone. Sorry, I just need. Maybe we are already. I just need. OK, awesome. Hey, awesome. Welcome, everyone, for this new show. My guest is already there. Don't worry, Daddy. I will bring you to stage in a few minutes or a few seconds. I'm just checking that everything goes well. Yeah, everything goes well. So say hello on the chat. Say where you come from. I love that. A lot of people are already there. I'm still in the garden. You can see that a different location. I moved from a few meters because it's starting to get hot here in the South of France. And I need some shadow. Otherwise, my tutor won't manage that. And I won't manage that. OK, so I'm really, really excited today because we have an awesome guest. We will talk about a lot of different topics. And after that, as usual, we do a bit of live coding. And we will play a game, a new game. Well, not a new game. You know I love Doom. We already played some versions of Doom, but I have a special version of Doom here. I leave you, you will see it at the end. OK, and let me see in the chat. We have James, we have Jordy, we have Orelie. Hey, everyone. So it's so glad, so awesome to see you all up there. OK, so now it's time for the interview. I need to go back to my console here and bring Daria to the stage. I have to click the right button. Yeah, there you are. Hello. Hey, how's it going? Fine, how are you? Good, good. Can you hear me just fine? Yeah, I can hear you fine. Oh, and you put your Twitter handle in the, awesome.  Yeah, usually I have a few minutes before the show. And but now there's a show just before. So I cannot do all this setup with the guest, but I'm lucky all the guests managed to set up everything right. And so it's all good. So I'm so, so happy to have you on the show. So what I always ask the first question is, who are you, introduce yourself, take the time you want. And so let the people know who you are. Sure. Hi, I'm Daria. I am a Java developer advocate at JetBrains. I've done Java development ever since I graduated from college. I joined IBM, worked on a product called WebSphere and Open Liberty. And then last year, I switched careers to developer advocacy. And I do a lot of content creation around different things and education. I love teaching, so I do a lot of education around things like, you know, JPA, Java, EE, Jakarta, EE. I just released something about Docker because I had no idea how to explain that well and did that. And I've really enjoyed the switch from a traditional developer career to developer advocacy. And I'm really enjoying talking to the developers and figuring out what they need. So yeah, that's just a little bit about me. I'm based out of Minnesota in the USA. And I'm originally from Egypt. So I've gone to different, you know, directions. And I have some background there. OK, cool. Super cool. And we will speak about advocacy. I'm interested in about the switch because I did also to switch the big switch last year. Because before that, I was already doing a bit of advocacy, but it was not official. And just to clear my memories, did we meet together in Agadir? Is that correct or not? I don't really know. Where? And where are you at Devox, Morocco? No? No, I wasn't. I was at DevNexus. Were you at DevNexus? No, no, no, sorry. Then I mixed it up because two years ago I was in Agadir and there was, I briefly, there was an IBM booth and there was a developer advocate. And I thought, but you know, I meet so many people. I know, I miss meeting everyone and seeing everyone. I was doing it as a side thing when I was lead and I kind of, you know, found the time to do it and now I can really do it, but I can't travel. So it's kind of interesting the switch. Exactly. No, no, well, Agadir, you quickly, I made a switch back last year in January. And I was part now, I'm now part officially of the advocacy team of Red Hat. And I was planning to travel like crazy. Now that my kids are a bit bigger, it's easier for the logistics. And yeah, I travel once time and then in March, you know, the world changed a little bit. And yeah, well, we became what we're doing now, live streamers. And to be honest, I enjoyed a lot as well. I can't wait to travel again to meet people, but yeah, I got used to it. But yeah, so about advocacy, what was the trigger for you to? Is that because you like to, you say you like education, you like to share, is that, is it related to this? Yeah, so back when I was, I worked on a product called the Migration Toolkit for WebSphere. And during that time, we did a lot of like Java migration stuff. And around that time, we were also doing a workshop at IBM about like speaking and all that stuff. And I was kind of intimidated by the idea of going off and talking to a bunch of people about what I do and like helping them and stuff. But one of my mentors, Kevin Sutter, really encouraged me to like apply for a, do you know Kevin? Yeah, Kevin's awesome. He was like, Delia, you should totally apply and see if you get in. And I did apply and I got accepted for my talk and I ended up going to Dev Nexus of 2019 for my first conference and I absolutely loved it. I loved people saying like this really helped me with like understanding what the problems with migration are gonna be. This is gonna help me with my, you know, application. Like feeling like you can actually impact someone's experience or make their job easier. Like I love that feeling. And I've always taught, you know, or tutored like math and calculus ever since I was in middle school. So I already loved like teaching people things and educating them. So ever since then I started going, applying to more conferences, I went to EclipseCon and I did a few and I've loved that. And then when I was kind of looking around for new opportunities, my husband told me, okay, you seem like you're enjoying this conference thing. Why don't you start like looking in that area? Cause I was looking at traditional development roles. And I was like, oh yeah, that's a good idea. I should totally do that. So I got in contact with Trisha and started talking and I've been really happy with, you know, what ended up happening there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess that you are working in an awesome team there in Jet Marines together with Trisha and who else is part of your team?  It's just the four of us. So Trisha G, Malagupta and Helen Scott. Yes, yes. So it's like an awesome team and I'm learning a lot about that area because I feel like developer advocacy is not something you can like study. You have to like see it in practice. And I'm really grateful that I get to, you know, learn from, you know, the best basically. So it's been great. Okay. There are a lot of discussions about what is exactly developer advocacy. And I remember there was a Twitter space and you were, you tried to join but you had a, I think you remember this huge Twitter space that started a few weeks ago. But maybe for people, what looks like your typical day of work? That's a good question. As I asked that of Trisha when I was interviewing, I was like, what exactly do you do? She's like, that's a good question. Let me think. It really depends on the day. A lot of it has to do with basically trying to use the product that you're interested in, you know, getting feedback on. So for example, back when I was doing the Jakarta EE stuff, I tried to create a web application and use IntelliJ IDEA for that. So, you know, I went through the experience of a typical developer that's just trying things out.  So I go and talk to the developers on the, you know, ultimate team, I would tell them, okay, here's what a developer experience would be and how can we do make this better? So a lot of it has to do with like being the first person to try something out and then giving some feedback or hearing a lot about, okay, a lot of people are running into this issue, how can we solve that? I was doing a lot of the new Jakarta, you know, namespace stuff and I had to go back and talk to the folks about like, by the way, this is not really working because not a lot of people had tried it yet. So a lot of it is like coding and doing this stuff and then some of it is, you know, content creation whether you're writing a blog or writing a conference talk or creating a video. I see it as like a teacher doing a lesson plan. Like, you know, how do I explain this well enough? What would I have wanted to understand in order to get started with Docker? It's funny with Docker. I was seeing that a lot of people know how to do a couple of things, but they don't really understand why they're, what it works. And for me, that was a really interesting kind of dilemma. How do you explain something well enough so people can use it and understand why it's working? Yeah, so. I love this challenge as well. And yeah, it's not, yeah, it's not easy. Like containers, yeah. We recently, we do a lot of content creation. We have deep dives, you call them. And we have really advanced deep dives and lately we started a deep dive called container 101. And it's more or less related to your video, but in one hour long we live, we explain. So what is behind the container? What is exactly the technology? So we don't dive too much, but yeah, it's C groups and Linux name faces, but you don't have to care about that because, and then slowly we show how to, and it's really interesting to build this kind of content. Yeah, isn't it hard to simplify? Like I found it hard to simplify. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really hard, but you quickly have the feedback. When you see people reacting and enjoying it, then you know you have the trigger. If you have no reaction on your talk and people ask you question that clearly shows that they didn't understand what you say, you say, oh, maybe I should rewrite my content then. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, my favorite response is usually like, oh, I never understood this before, and now I understand it. Like that's my favorite comment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it as well. And so you do a lot of stuff for the community, also for customers I assume is there, is it a 50-50 balance or could you give- You know, I haven't officially talked to a customer since I started this job. It's more of like the developers that use IntelliJ Idea, which there's a lot of them out there. So a lot of times I just kind of look around and see, you know, if someone tags IntelliJ Idea on Twitter, you know, I answer questions around that area. If they're doing this and that, it's not a traditional job. Like, you know, for example, before I would talk to a web sphere customer and talk to them about open liberty and talk to them about specific products. In this case, it's just a lot of people in the community use it and ask questions there. And it's really cool to see, like, you can just kind of look anywhere, whether it's LinkedIn or Twitter or whatever, and or Stack Overflow, and see people use your product and see people's questions, feedback, all that stuff. And I think that's why the role is so important is that kind of connecting that to the product team so that they can make something better. Yeah, you are also customer number zero, as we call it sometimes, you know, beef. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And as you said, there's so many people who are using IntelliJ that you have a huge community of people, it never stops. Yeah, that must be huge. I was just thinking about it, yeah, that'd be crazy. I love it, I love it because there's a lot of people that say, like, I'm solicited, they're like, we love IntelliJ Idea and, like, working on a product that people already really enjoy, that's such a joy. Exactly, yeah. Make it easier, I think. Yeah, it's really awesome. Or more challenging because, yeah, how can I make them even happier? Yes, and it's more feedback because more people are using it. So you get feedback from everywhere and anywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I have a question from the chat here. Let me bring it here from Jordy Sola. He is asking, Daniel, any recommendation for getting over the imposter syndrome and start feeling your words are actually worth? Yeah, that's a great question about imposter syndrome. I know Aurelie is here in the chat as well and she has done some talks about that. But what's your opinion, your recommendation about the imposter syndrome? Yeah, that topic is extremely interesting to me because it feels, it seems like with tech, it's really prevalent. And for me, like, a lot of times, you know, starting a new career like this, I felt like, okay, do I know what I'm doing? Like, they're just gonna find out that I don't know enough about this or that or all the stuff. And I am definitely not gonna claim to be an expert in the area, but what has worked for me is that I take the time to appreciate the areas that I'm an expert in. And like, for example, like building expertise in Docker. Before that, I didn't know as much about Docker, but building expertise and looking back and seeing that I can learn any technology that I set my mind to and I can even help other people that way. So really focusing on what you do know instead of like what I don't know and getting control over your mind and these voices in your head. Like, you know, you're not good enough, you're not blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. It really helps to figure out why are they seeing the things that they are and is that true? Like, confront it, like, is that true? Do I not know enough about Kubernetes? I'm like, no, I know a little bit about Kubernetes, but if I really wanna sit down and learn about it, I can learn about it because I've learned so much about this and that. And really celebrating your wins, that's a big thing too. The other thing that has really helped me is having a good support community like around me. That's why I love this team because I get a lot of emotional support from them. I get a lot of mental support. Like they have my back. I highly recommend getting, you know, a good group or a good support group around you. Reaching out to fine mentors. I love having mentors and sponsors and all those things. But definitely getting control over your mind and when, and confronting those thoughts. So that, you know, you tell them, no, it's not true. Everyone around me, they know a lot about one subject and that's why they seem like an expert, but they've had years to build those expertise. So that's kind of what works for me. I'm sure a lot of people in the chat have a lot of good insight on that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm keeping it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just know. Oh, you got it. You got it. I'm just checking. I hear myself. I hope it's not me. No, no, maybe it's me. I clicked somewhere. Maybe, no. Okay. Oh, looks like he's gone. Okay. Anyway, awesome. Yeah, that was great. So let's talk a bit about, let's talk a bit about technology now. Your domain of expertise. So I guess we could start with Java. I assume you love Java, so. I love Java. Can you quickly tell us your story with Java, how it started, and where it went? Sure. Okay, so it's a little bit different. So when I was in high school, I took a course on programming. And to be honest, I didn't really pay much attention. I just needed to get that A. I remember we wrote some stuff and like God bless him, my teacher, Steve Strong. He tried really hard to get me interested, but then I kind of brushed it off and went to university and majored in engineering.  So I switched to sociology and criminal justice. So I did that for a couple of years.  And I was talking to one of my friends and he was like, Talia, I think you'd really like programming because you'd like math, you like physics, all those stuff, you should really give it a try. And then I ended up taking a class in Java, in Python, and in C at the same time to just try it out and see if I like it. I took the classes, I enjoyed the C class the most for me because it was a lot more like, here's exactly what's happening. There's no concepts of objects and all that stuff. And in my Java class, I would show up there and be like, I don't know what these objects are. I don't know what you're getting at here. Like C was a lot more straightforward for me. And I was thinking like, what is this inheritance? And like the teacher, he was a great teacher. He was like using toolsters to demonstrate different things and I just couldn't get it. But then, you know, goes on, you go on, I started working for my internship at IBM and I started really using Java in real life, like applications. And I was like, oh, that's what an object is. That's why he's an object. And it really started to click. And once it started to click and like really understand the concepts, it was beautiful from there. I've really enjoyed working in it. The community is just great. Like, you know, you look around and you see so many great people that want to help, just want to help. And I think that's something we take for granted, but not all communities are that way. There's like the Java champions really want to help out. The people from Oracle really want to help up. Red Hat, IBM, you know, all these people really want to help you out. And a lot of times it's, sometimes it's not really just about the technologies, it's also about the people. And I've just enjoyed both sides of it. I've enjoyed Java and how fast it's been, you know, improving and iterating. And I've enjoyed the people and how much they're, you know, inclusive and welcoming and all that stuff. So it's just been, it's just been really a good experience for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, as you said, we're really blessed with the Java community. It's a, generally speaking, yeah, good people. Because as you said, in some communities, and I won't mention any community, but it's, yeah, you can, it's more complicated to say it this way. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But let's move from Java to Java EE, I should say Jakarta EE. Yeah. And it comes from your time at IBM. So, and I saw in your Twitter profile that you are at Jakarta EE Ambassador. So that is everything about Jakarta. Yes. The first, so the first project I worked on during my internship was working on EJBs. Okay. And it's interesting because no one talks about that in college. Like you don't really talk about like enterprise technologies or, you know, EJB or JPE or any of that stuff. So I went off and like did a lot of research on just saying like, what are these EJBs and why are they important? So I worked on that for a little bit and then I started working on JPA and JPA, I feel like that's a, you know, it's EJB, you talk about it and people are like, oh, you worked on EJB, but JPA, you start talking about it and they're like, oh, JPA, I'm like, yeah, okay. Hi, Renee. And like Eclipse link and that's the, that's my first introduction to open source development. It was, you know, working on a project called open JPA and then move on to Eclipse link and then, you know, getting exposed to hibernate and all that stuff. So from my perspective, I was more of the provider than the user. So, you know, we would take in someone saying like any manager.persist or save or whatever you're using and figure out, okay, how do we talk to the database based on this really simple, you know, method call. And that's a lot of what we were doing is like, okay, underneath the covers, how can we not have the developer worry about this and how can we translate it to the database?  And I love the idea of standards. I love the idea of the developer just calls something and not worries about like what's happening in the background. They can just, you know, have an entity and they can persist it to the database and they don't have to worry about it. So I really enjoyed working on, you know, JPA and then moving forward, I worked on migration and then we started talking about, okay, what are we doing about this namespace change from Java X to Jakarta? And like, how do you start talking about developers about this? I don't think a lot of developers are really have started worrying about it because, you know, there's still some work to do in that space, we know with Jakarta E9, you know, you've got the namespace change but not a lot of new features were introduced, basically none. So we're not seeing a lot of people talk about it yet but I'm anticipating with Jakarta E10, you know, people are gonna really see what it looks like, you know, whether you're using Java EE, Jakarta EE, you're using Spring or whatever, everyone's gonna be impacted by this change.  But as I'm talking to the IntelJ idea folks, they're like, oh, we can definitely do something really quick in the IDE so you can switch that name because it's basically a find and replace but it will definitely break your app. Like it's a simple fix but it's definitely gonna be something that you need to do once you move forward. So definitely don't wanna scare people away but it's something that they definitely wanna keep in mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember the good questions about do we do the Big Bang namespace change or slowly the new AP? Yes, I'm really glad they went with the Big Bang. I feel like that just simplifies things a lot more. We'll see but I think that was a good decision. Yeah, we will see but yeah. We have to trust us all the developers. Yeah, if I mentioned Jakarta and then I think about Cloud and Java, I think about Micro Profile. Do you have, have you been involved with Micro Profile as well? I have had to have conversations that are Micro Profile. Since Kevin Sutter is my mentor, we talk about Micro Profile a lot. It's definitely something that I love talking about and advocating for. I'm kind of interested to see what the future of Micro Profile is with Jakarta and the switch to more regular releases and stuff like that. So I'm all for providing as much value in the standard space as possible. And I've seen throughout my career, I was thinking like, why is this coding taking so long? Like with the standards and stuff? And it's because you're going through a bunch of approval process and all the stuff. Like it's not easy to have a standard. So whenever I see people trying to do like standards but also quick, I love that idea. And I think that's great that Micro Profile is trying to solve the problem of like, you still want your application to not break with every version, but at the same time, developers really want new features coming out as fast as they can. So they can take advantage of them. So like, how do you kind of go between those lines? I feel like Micro Profile has done a great job at that. And there's a lot of great people involved in that project. So I'm always like fascinated by, okay, how are you gonna, how can you introduce this new change without breaking the old stuff? I'm really interested in seeing how that's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, about Micro Profile and Jakarta, there are some heated discussions on, yeah, Micro Profile is more flexible on standards and but how can we bridge those together? I remember a crazy discussion after a blog post from Sebastian Deschner. And I don't know if you remember, he wrote a whole blog post and saying, I don't remember the conclusion, but it was, or we kill, or we kill Micro Profile and we just make it part of Jakarta IE or something else, but yeah. But yeah, I'll go on. I was saying like, I love it when people are that passionate about a topic because you know, the conclusion is gonna be the best for the developers. So no matter what we choose, it's gonna be like, we've weighed all the options. No one's just making a one decision. We've weighed all the options and we're coming up with what we think is best for the developer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally agree. And it's, yeah, as you say, it's a good conversation to have rather than do you prefer spaces or tabs? People can get really heated about it. And I find it funny, but some people really get mad about it. No spaces. Don't even have a conversation. It's spaces. I just lost half of our audience and they're like, it's space, it's clothes. Let me check in the chat. But yeah, moreover, what is your opinion for Java in the cloud? Well, you do a lot of stuff around Docker right now. So you can easily Dockerize, well, containerize Java application. Yeah, what do you think? Yeah, so it's, okay. So it's a little bit of a, you know, it depends the answer. A lot of times, you know, and I have had a lot of conversation with different customers talking about, okay, taking their traditional application, Java application and putting it in the cloud. And their idea of it is like, I'm gonna take this application, I'm gonna put it in a Docker container and, you know, put it on the cloud. And I'm like, that is not gonna, because if you have a huge application, you know, on premise, you move it to the cloud, it's not just gonna magically solve all your problems. And I remember doing like this workshop with one of our customers and, you know, they wanna do the latest thing, they wanna do all the stuff. And I had to stop and ask them, what problem do you have today that you're trying to solve? So a lot of times I have to like, stop people and say, okay, I know you're seeing everyone talking about the cloud and how great the cloud is and all the stuff. The question is, what problem do you are seeing right now that you think is gonna be solved by the cloud? Because if you have an on premise application that is well-architected, it's monolithic, it's works great, and you don't have any issues with it and it works, like... Yeah, why? Why even bother? Why, you know, why spend that resource there? You could spend, you know, adding to it or like creating something that attaches to it or whatever. But if you have a problem with your application right now, you have problem with scaling. It's not as easy. You have a problem with like, you know, finding out what the problems are in production. You have problem here and there and there and there. Okay, what architecture or what refactoring needs to happen to your application so we can break it apart a little bit more and take advantage of the stuff that, you know, Kubernetes provides and Docker provides and all that stuff. So typically when we talk about Java applications, a lot of times I tell people, okay, look at your application on its life cycle. Is it gonna be gone in the next two years? Then is it, it's not really worth spending the investment to put it on the cloud. But if it's gonna be, you know, here for the next, you know, five or 10 years and you're actively developing on it, you're actively doing future development and it's taking forever for you to get the future from the developers, you know, from coding basically to production. Yes, you should definitely revisit your application architecture and figure out, okay, how can I break it up into small microservices? How can I deploy in the mindset of cloud? Not the mindset that we've had before. You've got to shift your mindset. If you've got to understand in these areas, you know, what's gonna take the most advantage, how can you take most advantage of the advantages that you get with cloud? So when I, when people ask, you know, Java on cloud, if you do it right, it's great. But if you go into it, you just want to do cloud, that might, you might want to stop and think and okay, what problems am I really trying to solve with my application? Yeah, yeah, yeah, great. And typically at Jetwains in MTVJ, are you providing tooling to help people that would like to migrate their Java application to the cloud like, I don't know, easily providing health probes or, I don't know. Do you have any tooling around this? Yeah, so we're, so first we have like the Docker plugin.  You can even navigate into your container, look at what's there and all that stuff, which I feel like is really helpful. And then when you're doing development too, it's nice to have it all in one place. So we have a lot of the plugins available for that. And then we have the Kubernetes functionality as well available. A lot of it has to, we're very developer focused. So we're always thinking about, okay, from a development perspective, what's going to help the user most? So for example, when you're writing a YAML file, you know, people complain left and right about YAML files. I was just talking to the developers about how, okay, it would really be nice if IntelJ IDEA caught this. You know, and we were talking about ports and putting quotes around ports and all that fun stuff. How can we make it as easy as possible for a developer to take their application and basically containerize it? And beyond that, they can figure out their, you know, how are they going to deploy it and all that stuff. But from a development perspective, what's going to really help is being able to easily change your application, see the change right away, rebuild your image, run your container and then go, you know, forward from there. So we're definitely, if anyone has, you know, any suggestions on features that you think will really help you on your cloud development needs, please, please, you can message me or you can post in the chat. We'd love to hear that because that's an area that we know that is very important and we're trying to improve on it as much as we can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same at Red Hat. Well, we are, when it comes to tooling, we're not exactly competitors because we provide tooling for all the IDEAs and to DJ visuals to your code and- We're happy friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love it. Our tooling team works for both, when they deliver a plugin for Quarkus and extension for Quarkus for VS Code, they immediately release it also for EntityJ. But yeah, and that's also my challenge as an advocate, how to make this step easier for a developer to put his workload into the cloud. And yeah, one thing that I really like in OpenShift, so in our communities, is the latest change that we have, you can now drag and drop a drawer file into the web console, a bit like when you upload a video on YouTube. But now you drag and drop your jar file and yeah, the platform containerize it for you and then create a deployment. And yeah, so that's a cool feature. That's awesome. Yeah, especially for me, for us as advocates, that's awesome to demo, you know. Yeah, and make it as easy as possible. Exactly. I love the analogy with uploading your video to YouTube. You drag and drop it and while it's uploading, you enter the details and here's the same. You say, okay, that's my end point, there are my health probes and yeah, it's uploaded. Okay, and cool. Oh, I'm watching the time, but yeah.  A lot of amazing stuff. I will show that to my son right after in the replay. Lego, your friend looks like. So I love Lego based on also my husband's love of Lego. So my husband is a big Star Wars fan and he's gone into collecting Lego and all that stuff. This is actually his room, but I was like, I want to do my show from here. So I've gotten into a lot more building Lego together. It's such a nice fun, like friends activity too. And I love Harry Potter. So all of the Harry Potter sets in the top here, I built those. So we have, we have some in the corner here, we have some like Disney, Frozen, Mulan, women and astronauts and other like Marvel because we both love Marvel. So we kind of take turns building the Marvel sets. We probably have a lot of Iron Man because there's like every set sometimes comes with Iron Man, sometimes it doesn't. So in the Stranger Things, like we have a bunch of, it's like, what do we like? The big house of Stranger Things? Yeah, yeah, we hit it. Yes, and it flips. You can flip the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so cool. And I love the fact that it's so sturdy. Like no matter what happens, like once you build it, it's not just gonna break on you. It's a very well built, well, you know, toy. But to us, we love it. I love watching a Harry Potter movie and building my logo. It's like the ultimate relaxation time for me. You watch Harry Potter while you're building the set? Yes, it's perfect. My son does exactly the same thing. And he did the thing with the Stranger Things house. He put on Stranger Things and he started building and yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, it's awesome. The latest thing I built with my son together was the Saturn work cut. Now the one that went on the moon is this huge. It's amazing stuff to build. That's awesome. Yeah, and I told my son, because we had a discussion just before the stream, and he said, oh, you have to ask her if she's planning to buy the new sets about Harry Potter that come out in June. I have no idea about it, but you probably know. Yes, there's a couple that I have my eye on and we're gonna definitely pre-order a couple of them. I think one of them is like a life-sized version of, not life-sized, but like a big version of Harry Potter and Hermione Granger. And that's one that we got. And yes, so it's funny. Whenever any new ones come out, we're always looking around and figuring out which ones we want. Now the challenge is where do you display them? Because after a while, you kind of start running out of room. So, yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, awesome, yeah. And I know my son is missing one, but it's the most expensive one. It's the street. I don't remember the name of this Harry Potter set. It's like the big castle. Not the big castle, but the street. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. I don't remember how you say it today. Yes, yes, yes. It's like four buildings and they take up a lot of space. And I told my husband, I don't think I can get that one. Because it's going to just take up so much space. And I think it's sold out. And yeah, but yeah, he will dream of having this one. So, okay. Well, we spoke a lot, but it's not a problem, because it was a great discussion. Let me just double check here in the chat. So, Jordy, thanks for your answer about imposter syndrome. He says, you mind around, I'm good enough. The idea is hard, but I would take the advice and get surrounded by wonderful people. Yeah, yeah, okay, so that's it. James is asking about the dragon drop jar. Yeah, James, that is in OpenShift 4.8. So, to be released in two weeks or something like that. Okay. It's time for me to do some live coding and play a game. I know you have something after that. But anyway, it was really an awesome discussion. I love chatting. Thank you for having me. Yeah, it was really great. People who can follow Daria on Twitter, her handle is between the... How do you pronounce it? The brackets. The parentheses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's between Dutch, French, and English, so sometimes it gets a bit... I'm impressed. Yeah, like it's switching languages, especially when you're talking about tech. I'm always impressed with that. Anyway, thank you so much. Hopefully next year, probably when we will be able to travel, we will meet at a conference, I'm sure. I will take some pictures of all the sets from my son. Yes, hear that. That would be awesome. Thank you so much for having me. See you next time. Bye-bye. Okay, everyone. That was great, as usual. I'm really lucky. I always have awesome guests, and we also always have such great discussions. I'm running a bit out of time, but it's not really an issue. You know what? I want to quickly do a live coding to take five minutes, and then I will show you another game, boom, running on Docker. Doom 1, the old one. Multiplayer, okay? I discovered that yesterday. People from Cloud Fair did that. And I say, wow, let me try to deploy that on OpenShift, because I try to deploy everything on OpenShift, okay? So let me share my screen. Let me share my screen. So we should now be in inception mode. Yes, here you see my restream. Let me check the chat here. James4.8 is in two weeks. Okay, okay, awesome. You know what? I just, before we play the game, you probably know Quarkis. You know that it's my favorite, it's my favorite Java stack, to build applications. And there's been Quarkis 2 alpha release, released three weeks ago. Okay, it's still on alpha, but you can already do some crazy stuff. Let me just create a live, make a live, live show, something like that, okay? Let me go there. Let me create an application using Quarkis 2.0 alpha, okay? I can do that. Let me increase a bit this screen. Clear. There we go. Here. And I do that using the Maven plugin, okay? So here I'm using the alpha one. Maybe there's an alpha two. Let's stick to alpha one, okay? So that will create a new project for me. I just want more feature that I want to show you. So let me put here, that's Sabi, live show coding, show, show coding, show coding. It's a snapshot. Rest easy. Yes, yes. I can keep all the defaults, okay? Let me go into that and let me open code with this application. Empty application that has been created for me. Let it give it some time to start up. So nothing has changed in Quarkis 2.0 for the structure is still, you know, a classic Maven structure. It's taking some time here to load my, there we go. Okay, it's running. So let me open the west endpoint that has been created for me. And what I will do now is just start my application, okay? Using the Dev mode. You all know the Dev mode, okay? And I do MVN, Quarkis, Dev. Okay, there we go. That will start my project, you know, in Dev mode, that means that I can change stuff, add libraries, change my code. But we have a new feature, which is called continuous testing. You might remember when you create a new project, you have some test that has been created for you, okay? By default. And what you can ask now in Dev mode is to run your test every time that you change the code. So here it's running my test, okay? My test path because it's checking on hello west easy, hello west easy. So that's working, okay? What if I change my code? So I change here hello to something like instead of hello west easy, hello. I save it and look here what will happen. Look, my test fails. Yeah, immediately run my test. So what I can do is just go into my test, for instance, and I can fix here the test. Let me fix the test. I save it and look at this. Now all my tests are pressing. It even works if you add code, okay? So let me add a new method here. Let me add a new method. There we go. And I will call this method. I will put it on the pass FR, okay? And I will call this method bonjour. Okay, and here we return bonjour. Okay. I saved that. He will run the test, but there's still only one test, okay? Because I haven't written a test for this. So let me add a test. Let me just decrease once. Yeah, that's better. There we go. Let me add a new test. That we will call hello bonjour end point. And here we say we want to test this new end point slash FR, and we should have bonjour. There we go. And we save that. And now you can see here in my terminal, test all pass to pass where run, okay? And again, I can break it if I want. If I say here, hola. Break it. And I will have expected this hola. Actual is bonjour. Just that I wanted to show you. Continuous testing. It's still in beta. But it's really smart. It only runs if you just change one method that will just change the test method of this method, for instance. And yeah, my role is to make developers happy to improve developer experience. And these kind of features while are awesome, okay? That's all I wanted to show you. And I think there are some mosquitoes here. That's going to be fun. Week after week, there will be more and more mosquitoes here. But hopefully I will have fiber and I will be able to go back inside. Let me stop the app. That's all I wanted to show you for live coding. And we have 13 minutes left. Awesome to play the game. Let me see a bit in the chat if we have something. We have hello. Okay. Continuous testing is an interesting feature. Yeah, I agree. Okay, let's talk about the game. So yesterday I was on Twitter and I saw a treat coming along. I don't have the treat here right now. But basically someone say, hey, we at Cloudflare sorry, we managed to create a version of Cloudflare. So you can play your DOOM. And not the new DOOM but the old school DOOM. The old school one, the shareware version which is open source, by the way. And let me share that with you because the blog post is really interesting. Let me put there. You can read it. They really explain something great about putting your code on the client or putting it on the server. There's a third way with Cloudflare. It's between the server and your client. And this way you're closing to your client. You can put some secrets. Anyway, really interesting to see. But the interesting part is that at one point you read this blog post and then they say, but you know what, the code is available in this repo where is repo? Let me search for repo. The open source code an instruction to compile and run the last DOOM locally can be found in this repo. So I click there this morning.  I can share that with you as well. And I say, let's try it. Let's do it. And you have some great some great instructions compiling that is the last DOOM. But you also have to do other stuff. And after struggling a bit because I never compiled with WebAssembly, I never did that. So basically it's a special version of DOOM that has WebSocket supports. And that you compiled with WebAssembly. And you end up with a GS file and you can put that in a Web app and you can have DOOM running in your browser and it has support for WebSockets so you can make it multiplayer. So Cloudflare did some crazy stuff. They used some specific stuff from their platform. But you can also run it locally. And I managed to run it locally. And I say, okay, now I have it locally. I want to run it in the cloud. So what did I do? I took my project here. Let me go to my project. That is a, so it's a Node.js project. I say, oh, you know what? Let me create a Docker file. So I created a really simple Docker file from Node 16 and here I do really not so nice work. I just put everything from the folder in my container and I run this script router.js that is supposed to run for if you run it locally on your machine. But I say, now I have a container and you know what? I also have a cluster. Let me try to deploy this stuff, okay? And if you take a look here. So it's my pod is running here. I've got my service. I had to do some stuff here because we have one port for the web app, but also one port for the WebSocket connection. So it's two different ports. So I had to adapt the service a bit. But let me see here. I got this URL here. Let me open that here for now. Port 8000. And look at this. I got my doom running in the browser and I can multiplayer game. I do that and I call myself here a sebi and I do go. I only tried this match. And a link has been created for me. Let me copy that. Let me go to next. And now we will enter the lobby where we wait for other people. Let's see here. Not to open shift. I see four people. I don't know if it's limited. Let's see. If it's limited, you can start another server because it's available. But let me copy the link. No, not in this one. Let me copy the link here. So if you click this link, you should be able to join the game. Let's see if people join the game. Let's wait a bit. We still have some time. Don't be shy. Click the link. Hopefully it works. Maybe it doesn't work. I made some tests. I don't see anyone joining for now. Let me see in the chat if people. People that are still there, click on the latest link. Join me if you want to play against me in Undoom. Let's give it two minutes. The thing is, once I start the game, it's a demo. People cannot join after that. I guess people might have an issue joining the game. Because I see no one joining. Let me see again in the chat if something. Other players. Oh, you have a waiting for other players. Okay. Why can I I should be able to see you here, people. That's the issue. That's not happening. Okay. Maybe it's not getting updated. Waiting for other players. Still here waiting for other players. Okay. You know what? Let me try the game. Let me play the game. We can go on the official site where they did it. I just want to show you. We can really play the game. There we go. I think no one is here. Let me take the rocket launcher. Yes. I almost killed myself. Let me go here. Okay. Okay. I'm not sure people were able to join. Let me take Can I do pose here? Okay. Let me see. Yes, since none there. Okay. You know what? Let's try it again. We have still five minutes. Okay. Start multiplayer. Okay. I go there. This match. I copy the link I do next and then I share it with you. Let me see. So that's me. Oh. Waiting for other players. Hmm. I come back to the game now. Hmm. Yeah. I knew there was a risk to do that. No luck. No luck. Yeah. I'm sorry. You know what? I will be working on that. What we can do now. What we can do now is going to the official site. Silent. Silent. Something silent. Silent space marine. Okay. Let me go there. Okay. Let me close this one. Let me start a multiplayer here. Let me do that. Let me try this one. Once more. See if people can join on this one. That's the other. Yeah. It's right because I tried it myself this morning. I did a lot of changes. I'm not sure what happened. Let's see if this one is working. Oh. Next. Okay. Let me see if this one works. Anyway. It's still interesting. Interesting experience for you people. If you want to try to compile this old school doom, you need the shareware, the what? W-A-D file. You can grab it for free because it's a shareware. Oh. I got someone here joining. Oh, Sabine. I love it. Anyway. It's a really interesting experience if you want to run it locally. Okay. We are all there. So it's limited to four people. Awesome. Let's try it. I can... If I can see some people there. Oh, I see people. There's no scoring system. But since there's a WebSocket connection, you know what? I will integrate it with some... Oh, people are... Someone is attacking me. Oh, I probably have a second one. A second window open. I'm really slow for it. Okay. Anyway. I will integrate that with Kubernetes like deploying pods when you kill people. Oh. And now the game... The game is taking a lot of resources. But anyway. You know that I love this kind of integration. I was happy to manage to deploy it on my cluster. But I still have some stuff to fix. Maybe it's blocked some ports or blocked or something like that. I have to find this out. You know what? Let me stop here the screen share. You can still play. Where is my screen share? The screen share is here. Let me stop the screen share. Let me put back in the big screen. So anyway. I hope you enjoyed this show. I enjoyed a lot. I enjoyed the discussion with Dalia. Then we could see some great features of Quarkis 2. And there will be more. Just one specific feature I wanted to show you. And yeah, Doom. Yeah, I feel a bit. That's also where all humans and I just experiments and stuff. And yeah, expect. Maybe in two weeks I will have a way more nicer version integrated maybe with other games and etc. I love to do that. And that's it. Next week is Tech Talk with Itzan. And it might be possible that I will be we are still discussing that. On Quarkis 2. By the way, maybe I see you back next week same time. But as a guest. Please stay safe. Have an awesome end of the week for people here around in Europe. Enjoy your day off on Monday. Love you all. Stay safe. Bye bye.


Alright, thanks for staying with us now. According to LASEPA, the decision to seal some of these businesses, such as Alaya Food, catering services and Bukahot of Lucky Phase 1, was made because of their persistent disregard for environmental pollution, some religious centers like Ansaruddin and Restoration Center Global Church in Bagada were also sealed due to concerns regarding noise pollution and environmental disruption. LASEPA also reported that parts of Alaba International Market were found to have flouted several key waste management guidelines, such as indiscriminate waste disposal, absence of designated waste point, lack of waste receptacles for proper containment as well as an unsatisfactory state of drainage system despite repeated notices, urgent compliance to the regulations. Now, environmental hygiene regulations play a very vital role in protecting public health and the environment. By setting standards for the quality of air, water, land, and by regulating the discharge of pollutants, environmental hygiene regulations can help to prevent disease. Reduce environmental degradation and improve the overall quality of life. So today we are asking, how will LASEPA's rampant sealings impact hygiene in Lagos? Please, let's hear what you have to say. Remember, you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to the read, 1-803-4663. So I was just going to take the story I had said I wanted to take because there's another ceiling. This was just a mention though. This is the place I think it's at, at Macaulay, Yaba. So this one is in line with what we have talked about demolishing structures, right? This one, they were remodeling the space and they did not go to get a permit for that remodeling.  So which is good because this is what we're talking about, laws, right? And saying that why don't you even just let them, instead of building, you know, but this one, they've even finished building it, they've gone to seal it. I was just going to say that, okay, so when the LASEPA started working, because this new administration of LASEPA, they're obviously working. There were a lot of, of course, you know, I always come with all those conspiracy theories, but it seemed like the businesses were targeting certain kinds of people, right? But the, the, the reasons for this sealing of all of these places, right, they're quite valid.   There's a lot, but I think they even forgot to mention the- A lot of them had- This was the Ladiko, she was also shut down. A lot of those businesses. Oh, it was shut down.  Yeah, but yeah, a lot of them, a lot of them. So I'm now wondering in my head, D, that outside of all of these things, right, if we truly want to check some of these violations, is there any particular structure that will survive, especially in the major market? Would there be anyone, an exception, a genocide? Because there was a time, you know, when they sealed that third Milan that I had to go through Yaba, there was a time I don't know what happened. Maybe it was because the traffic was so bad, Google was trying to take me through. Oh, mother, they passed inside Balogunji. Over, I had never seen that. If you see the kind of heap of rubble, there's a part in Balogunji called Gota or something. So what I'm saying is, if La Seppa is really ready for this, it means that they will be ready to seal everywhere. Because there are no current standard markets, apart from the newly built Yaba ultra market, and the one that was called, Aladdin Runabout wasn't the one. Aladdin Market. Aladdin Market, that has standardized. I feel that markets seem to be like violating some of these things that they have pointed at the reasons for sealing up these places. What do you think? Okay, so I agree with your point, that's where you're coming from, you know, that in order to enforce the law, there must first be a structure on ground. But while there may not be, why we may not be operating at a 100% capacity of structure in terms of, okay, these are the structures on ground and all that, there are, within the ambit of their operation, they know that there are laws. And I can say that for Lagos, I don't know about other states, but I can say that for Lagos, they have associations, that's market women, market men associations and all that. And they have these laws, because sometimes you can hear them. I'll give you an example. In a quarry, there are certain, they know the days they do sanitation. They know these things. But you see, our people are such that we are so used to the law not working, we're so used to nobody enforcing the law, that it becomes a big issue when somebody decides to enforce the law. I'll give you an example. When they were building Yabba, you know before of course, before it became an ultra-modern market, there was still a market there, there were buildings and all that. Now I remember that Governor Fashola was trying to get people off the rails because people used to die on that rail. But guess what? When the Kai or the Task Force, when they used to beat them up and say, please, they want to die. Now he felt as the governor of the state, he was his responsibility to save God, the lives and properties of people. And he tried, but mm-mm. So every time they keep coming there, people will still, like once the Task Force has gone, you see them, they will come back. So we keep doing these things because we feel, hey, the same way you see people selling on the road, it becomes a major problem for cars to drive through, or even pedestrians to even walk through normal roads just because somebody is standing on the road and selling and thinking it is their rights. So I think, I mean, I've heard the arguments where people are trying to politicize this and like you rightly said, think they're targeting a specific kind of people but I don't agree with that because when they locked a, when they shut down mile 12, I listened to the person in charge who was speaking on channels and he said something, he said, you know what, people would always talk, that's the truth. And he said they're not just closing indiscriminately, they're setting conditions. They were notices giving to their authorities. Now it is now the responsibilities of their authorities, did they pass down those notices or they did not? I'm sure they did, but you know, like you rightly said in the beginning that they always think that they can always get away with things, that's why they let it slide. I want to bring you back to, you know, the structure, right? Because you see, it's easier said than done, right? Because if we look really with our microscopic eyes, we have never had a proper structure when it comes to marketplace in Syria, right? Our markets have always been known for some of this kind of chaos because they believe that it is in the chaos that the price would be, you have a good price point, you know? So if you look at all the structures within market structures, it's always been like that. So when you say Thursdays are for sanitation, right? I get it, because most times you just, they don't open their businesses until 10am in the morning. Well guess what, they don't use it for nothing. Do you get what I'm saying? Because even when they pack those debts, like okay, I've swept my own site, where do you get to it? But you know the crazy thing, they have beans. Sometimes I see, you... I said the gigantic beans, where do you see? But guess what? This is where I'm going with this conversation because you see, it's not sealing these properties that will solve the problem. It's the fact that you must understand and make people examples. Do you get what I'm saying? You must make people examples and there should not be any exception. That fairness must be cut across. Don't seal up one store and leave the other. Because if you say what affects what, when we talk about noise pollution for instance, this is like where they go, they say noise pollution. Even right next to, I mean on that entire admiralty, there are different kinds of spots at night.  So why are those other ones still open? Do you get what I'm saying? So if you're talking about... So if you're talking about some of these things, my point is make it that when they come, it is slippery, nobody can catch you. You know why? Because even you said, you use your eyes to see that there is no discrimination here. So that's a routine mask. For instance, that they shut down. That's not the only mask that makes noise. Because I mean, it's just that God has delivered us from living in certain kinds of areas. But there are some areas that you go to till tomorrow.  You will hear so many loud noises. You get what I'm saying? Same with churches. I mean, there was a church right before my, what's it called? My very first house in Magodofes too. That church where they started trying, you understand? But I'm saying to you that it is back to back. It's not something that it can, it can, what's it called? You can do just this one and say, okay, this other person, because it's everywhere. If you want to really look at those churches, it's everywhere. Is it the one that is holding a megaphone on the road? Arrest them.  This noise. You go to bus stops. You see those people trying to sell me. There's one, one, one, one concoction that can solve 10 billion diseases. You see them with the loudspeaker. But they're not calling passengers. It's a megaphone. So when you talk about noise pollution, what might mean noise pollution to you might not be noise pollution to me.  But I'm saying to you that if you really want to solve this problem and be seen to be fair, let it go across. You get. So now, mile 12, I don't know if it's reopened now, but mile 12 has always been known for dirt. Like literally, I've not entered a market in years. I entered it.  In case you did not know it now, I do not go to markets because I just have a phobia for market. So if there's anything I can get in the supermarket, if you want me to really, really do that thing for you, go and buy it, bring it. I do not like market because it just gives me some kind of, I don't know, one kind of feeling. Why do I need to wear boots to entire market? That's right. Why do I need to wear boots? So if you talk about the Alaba Internet, I've never been there. Yeah. But I hear that, you know, that place also like is chaotic. Then the one that sells, you know, there's Alaba and they want to sell. Alabarago. They want to sell their spare parts. Which one is it? Alaba is the one that. The trade fair. The trade fair is Alaba. There's Alaba International, there's Alabarago, where they sell cut to an old. Look at Kaira Market. Look at Kaira, they didn't want to do a documentary. In God of Heaven. At some point I told the cameraman, please, if you are not turning back me, I'm going back to the car, or if you will finish, come and meet me. You know, is it the Kaira Market? Or, I mean, literally. Even Oigomaru. Market is synonymous, synonymous to dirt in this country. So you see, for us to solve this problem, it has to be a complete 360 mind reorientation and shift. Okay, so do you think that if there were structures like proper markets, do you think that we would be able to rise above this issue of dirt, you know. Yes. Waste disposal. Yes, and I will answer you. Let's take a break because I would like to open up our phone lines. I will answer you. 100% yes. Thanks for staying with us. And if you just tune in that ladies night out as you already know D&I. We're trying to talk. Touch this. Rampant ceiling. That is happening. And what the impact on hygiene will be in Lagos. Now, please let's hear what you have to say. Remember, you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or answer up to the rate 1803-4663. You can also send us, or sorry, call 07025-007749. That's the number to call. Remember to turn off the volume or whatever device it is that you're watching us from. So I will send to you that yes, it was possible. You asked the question that if we had an ultra modern market, right? Is it possible for us to not start? Yeah. It's very possible. But two things. First of all, right? We need to restructure because we have malls. There was a time in our lives in this country that we never knew what shopping malls were. Now you see actual people like literally everybody goes to supermarkets to go to shopping malls to go and shop, right? So Balogo Market for instance has a lot of there's a lot of restructuring that has to happen in that market. Balogo Market is supposed to be the Sam's Club or they call the what's the other one in the US or Costco, right? That is supposed to be like the idea because the idea is that you're going there to go and buy a book and you are now taking those books. So if a government were really serious about solving some of this hygiene problem, right? It is now trying to restructure the markets in a way that we start to you know like force people to say this is the path we are going so you better follow it well. Which is what they did with the what's it called the Yaba Ultra Modern Market, right? Have you been inside the market recently? Wait, no, I didn't come. I didn't come. I knew you were coming there. I have been this person ahead of you. I didn't know you were coming there. But you see now it goes back to what I said that is beyond the structure because no matter how modernized the structure is it is still the same human being and it's still the same their own way of life. But they want to bring it to that structure. It's not going to work. Which is what is happening even with the Ultra Modern Market that they built in Yaba. Yes, there is a structure that is no longer whatever but you can still see that it's still the same mindset. Nigerians are already used to that thing. We are used to chaos. We are used to chaos. We are. It will take a lot for us to be able to retrace our steps back. Now, even for the sake of hygiene you know that this is not only if you go to Karnas state I don't know any other state market that I've entered. I've gone to other states but I don't think I've entered their market. Their markets, yeah. In Karnas state where I grew up there's a market my mother used to buy all her foodstuffs and all of that called Kakuri market and I think the station market. If you see where northerners and this I must give it to them if you see where northerners are selling fruits they wash their work yeah, yeah, true. Literally. So there's a there's a so that's what I'm saying to you that there's so many things playing out here. There is a mindset reorientation that needs to happen. So it is beyond just sealing of these places. You know why? If they comply and they probably go and meet all the start what's it called statutory conditions for them to be reopened it doesn't guarantee that they sustain it all that you are trying to achieve what happened. It doesn't guarantee that you know the pollution or whatever you're trying to avoid it will come back. So I believe that yes, sealing might happen just to put some level of scare but it's beyond the sealing. We need to find a way to start to change the mindset of people. The most of this market that you go to right they believe that until the thing is from the debt if there are some places where they sell tomato the broken one is cheaper. Yeah they'll tell you that this one is cheaper than the ones that are fresh and whatever they'll tell you those ones are more expensive all those things are mindset.  So food and safety right especially for the ones that are dealing with food we need to have a food and safety what's it called? Department I don't know how they are going to do it they have you understand that goes to check because even this thing is not unique to Nigeria no it's not have you been to have you not seen some videos of McDonald's where they have big rice inside there and all of that so kitchen especially people that cook if you go to the what happens behind you will not want to eat that food true true so it's not unique to a particular people it is just the mindset I was in America in Las Vegas that kitchen I was almost having a heart attack of course we see some things on what's it called this food show I said is it possible in America the America where they talk everywhere and you know it also comes down to you cannot you cannot give what you don't have true if you don't have the knowledge and understanding of what an action can result to you probably may not even do better if the average grass root woman who who sells her products in the market does not even understand that just from not handling tomato well you could be selling a whole you know basket of poison to an innocent family she may not even know because she will tell you this is where I also eat from so you'll find out you'll find out that they have recurring sickness but nobody is probably teaching them so I think that in order like you said it has to be a multi-pronged solution you know structure but there must be education education enlightenment continuous one continuous one so you do that through their association or their leadership structure where you tell them listen you must do this for us to be able to get this okay what are the challenges okay why is it difficult for you to dispose your waste because some of them will tell you oh before I walk from there to there some again I mean you're talking about structures how many of these women or men can actually afford a structure if you put a structure in place so let me even explain something to you what you just said about the tomato analogy you see in other same communities when a produce is leaving the farmland the way they say when they carry they carry it with prestige do you get what I'm saying they put them in crates so if it is the tomato if it is the cabbage your cucumbers they put them in crates neatly please they put them in trailer please and basket because when something has already been malhandled poor do you get what I'm saying we need to start to pay attention literally we don't treat ourselves as kings and queens we treat ourselves like nobody we treat ourselves like poppers even poppers in some places will not eat what it is that we're eating I always say that they will not even give it to the animals if people go have the opportunity to go to markets to see where their food actually comes from you will not have to eat honestly honestly so that's what I'm saying that have separate sealing of places it's a fantastic thing but I'm saying that the the approach should not just stop at sealing you know one day road safety stopped us on the road and the guy said that was it maybe sea caution I can't remember what it was that was missing amongst all the things they asked us so I asked him a question I said sir what was the use of this sea caution he said okay that accident what are you most most interested in is it educating us so that we understand the consequences of some of these things enforcing the law or enforcing the law and just you're just concerned about your fine he kept mute because you see he he immediately understood where I was going I said I don't have a problem paying your fine and I will pay your fine but I'm trying to explain to you a road safety officer needs to educate you first and tell me oh madam if you don't have your fire extinguishers you don't have your sea caution if anything goes wrong you cannot because you will not be able to park and give what's it called notice to someone coming there there's a broken down vehicle here very true do you understand so it's the same thing approach will separate sealing it it is what's it called consequences right but what about why we don't ask why in this country we just do things because there is a why this is happening right before the lady feels the need to sell in a clean environment how did the goods get to her in the first place do you understand did the goods come to her clean was it neatly presented to her we don't take hygiene and this is beyond just these places go to public toilets go to even office tell them you want to use the restroom do you understand what I'm saying so it is hygiene problem is a is a is an it has to be in built it has to be it's inside our blood the problem is is rooted so for us to solve it sealing these places is just like peeling I know it comes back to the fact that we do not have the maintenance culture absolutely I see the possibility of okay you erect all these beautiful edifices and structures and provide all these places and then in two years it's run down absolutely they don't care nobody cares so again I mean people need to be educated on the why so they understand that there are consequences for actions and they need to speak to them it's very important so so beyond just sealing I want to see LaSepa's framework I want to see LaSepa's framework I want to see what their their structure would be in terms of educating they need to use a lot of media it has to be a public advocacy yes you must use use celebrities use different people do you know what I'm saying because it's a real problem that public health public health is a real problem that they're trying to solve but you see your approach to solving public health should not just stop just throw in the hammer say oh yeah bam seal seal no it should go beyond that because guess what a lot of us rely on this public food the story MJ took last week of a life frog this frog was not dead yeah a life frog so in that life frog that you have seen one life frog inside is such a water it's like a thousand liters of water what are we talking about eggs the eggs that would be in other bags because those eggs now they're not visible to the eye actually the frog is big you can see what about the eggs what about tadpoles you see so do you know what I'm saying so what Sepa is doing is fantastic right and I must commend them I'm just only asking that beyond just sealing these places right if you truly want to solve a problem right there is a there's an approach that can even take the solution higher and not higher this has to even be a national campaign it can't just because I mean it can't be it can't just be legal state it has to be a national campaign it's everywhere so you know why this is close to home for me my mom ran a restaurant for over 20 years right and I've said this thing several times first of all my mom cannot serve a customer a food that she cannot eat so it means that for them to have for you to for her to serve you that food it must have been prepared first of all under the right conditions secondly there is a particular temperature that all the food must be served she took her time for some clients in fact it is whilst you are there that she's making maybe if it is Swallow or whatever she prefers to make it live all the time and when I'm talking about restaurant I'm not talking about a small space we used to cater to what's it called all the entire staff of NMPC when it's lunch break the place is in my house but in all of those things so that's where I picked on some of these things when it's going back quickly sort it out don't wait I say this thing going back and watching and watching and watching till it gets back to me which is what we're seeing right because some of these places that La Sefa is sealing not with today their own pollution start not with today the noise start not with today the dirty start you understand and so if we truly must solve the problem line by line each market if they take on maybe my 12 now line by line and this is not the one you can see because how can they name a place Gota and trust me G they've taken me to that Gota I held my nose the money and the kind of billions that come out of that Gota you're joking you know so that's what I'm saying to you that how do you even build structures how do you even sell see that's what's in G we have somehow wired dirtiness and wealth it's only when the thing is dirty that's where money I don't know how to explain I mean I remember that when we took this conversation you know we had spoken about somebody somewhere being and complacent and being a partner you know in promoting corruption you know especially at the helms of government and it's so true because I know that for some of these structures that are built they are like illegal structures you know that they probably won't say that is for markets they will say it's for something else so they don't really look at these critical factors of okay drainage of waste proper waste disposal because you're not even fortright about the kind of structure you want to build there absolutely so it's the same case for churches and for because now you find churches renting residential apartments and converting them exactly thank you I mean you get what I'm saying thank you these are the issues you see that it's beyond just saying you're sealing the place you understand for this thing to work everybody must come together on the table and say guy do your job you are the one in charge of environmental planning please plan your environment anything that is not properly in place take them out you call the people in what's he called permit anything that is not properly properly placed sees the license to operate I mean role model the school my children went to the primary school that is owned by Daystar if you go into that school you know because they are very close to Lausa my pastor he doesn't like Kuala every single thing in terms of regulations and whatever they make sure that they put it because first of all they will not give bribe so you will see that he's working is if you know that Como these people they know they collect bribe you will do the right thing you will do the right thing but this one for Daystar is the other way around because they cannot give bribe you get what I'm saying they will make sure that because if you cannot give bribe they will frustrate you they will make sure that every single thing you tick off the box so they too they have put every single thing in place so imagine if we flip that coin we are not taking bribe if your structure does not meet this thing you are going to go down exactly everybody will comply everybody will comply he meant to that let's take some comments yeah so well the government have all these agencies didn't we have sanitation inspectors in this same Nigeria back in the day one day when same agency wakes up you would hear they sealed up one fast food outlet outlet this is Nigeria knee or molly knee or molly thank you so much ok I think this is still from knee or molly he says good evening ladies Lassepur's rampant ceilings won't impact hygiene it's just another IGR drive like all other agencies of government all of a sudden waking up to their responsibilities truth is same government agencies abdicated their responsibilities or prefer to selectively discharge it on the market we don't have standard market even at that the market should be cleaned up daily this idea of Thursdays alone as sanitation is absorbed until the government is ready to do the right thing there is no end in sight to the abnormality is the Nigeria absolutely you know some people inside the market they believe they are both widows because they are friends of their lodger of course they are in the cost of the cost do you understand what I'm saying to you well funny enough I don't get why they don't see so let me explain to you the biggest dumpster you know the biggest dumpster now is where is that located it's very close to a lobster in fact at some point the role model is very close there daystar is zero you can smell that from the express is it the express in the children's classroom the smell I just wonder how these people are coping so one day you know there's a mechanic village right at that they call it the 7 o'clock mechanic village I saw one woman just comfortably making the food people are eating how you guys coping they are like literally how you coping because I couldn't even I was feeling like I was going to faint because of the smell yeah do you understand that's what I'm trying to explain to you that we are so used to these things that it's not when you are talking about it's strange to them it's strange actually it's strange so when you as Lassepa want to solve this problem in your time do you understand what we need to start to do now is actively intentionality we must use intentionality to say you know what every single week you understand there has to be one campaign going on every on a weekly basis a campaign going on we are coming to your place make sure this is in place make sure that is in place you know even for malls I mean I had a store in the mall people started I said why they say because customers would not say no that's why it's a shopping mall people were walking people should walk in you know guess what because this is the mindset if I don't display it outside nobody will see my goods so a lot of even this market people that you are talking about they just believe that they have to go and put it outside they have to be on the road they have to be on the road and they don't understand that the only reason why they have to be on the road is because these places are chaotic that people would rather not coming it's as simple as that so make the environment such that it is attractive it is clean enough that people want to coming on that note I'm looking forward to sitting down with someone from yeah because we need to understand exactly because I'm sure that there are things that they are acting on exactly so it would be nice to understand what the structure the trajectory you understand because these things it's in phases and you must understand that one whatever can solve the problem it can my shawarma place say yeah find another spot there's just something about that shawarma maybe it's because from it made not be made not be made not be have you seen some videos on Instagram in Indian people cooking washing their hands please don't talk about that one when you are they learn where India is there we are out of time but many people before we go I show you follow us across all social media handles that way so Africa you can interact with us further drop of comments and most important to follow all our engagement on social media like share and invite your bottom it says a healthy ecology is the basis for a healthy economy this is very true so watch out and we are hoping that the path succeeds because we really want a more hygienic legal yeah yeah yeah better cleaner 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All right, let's quickly talk about Wuppert Murdoch. Wuppert Murdoch retired officially from his empire last week. He is worth something like $22 billion, and he's the 31st richest man in the United States, and 75th richest man in the world. That's pretty amazing. The $21 billion, $22 billion only gets you 31st in the US. That's insane. I remember being a billionaire counted for something. Now every Joe Schmo is a billionaire. Anyway, Wuppert is 92 years old. He's been working until now. He's just retiring now. He is passing on his media empire, or a lot of the media empire. Certainly, Fox News Corp. to his son, Lachlan Murdoch. Again, there's a long history here. I just want to focus on one element of this. Murdoch, of course, controls Fox News and has been the mind, the power behind Fox News. And I'd say over the last three years, Murdoch has been basically engaged together with Fox News in a campaign, not 100%, not full-on, but in a somewhat of a campaign to deny Donald Trump the presidency in 2024, to deny Donald Trump the Republican nomination for the presidency in 2024. I mean, you could tell this by a positive treatment, the Santas, and then for a while there of Vivek. They didn't have Trump on many of the shows, with the exception of Hannity. Generally, you had a Fox News that seemed to be supporting other candidates and was really kind of abandoned Trump or at least trying to get the Republican Party to abandon Trump, not too aggressively, not too strongly, but somewhat. I mean, Murdoch himself has just been trying desperately over the last three years to find an alternative to Trump. I mean, recently he's approached Glenn Jochans from Virginia to try to get him to jump into the race because the Santas has been failing with the hope that maybe Jochans can beat Trump. Fox has also been committed to the stories for years now. Did it was an opinion leader? Did it basically shaped the right? That what was popular on Fox was popular among Fox viewers, that Fox was at the helm of shaping the views of right wing America. Well, the last three years have proved the opposite. And I think Murdoch's leaving has proved the opposite. It's like a Gail Weynand, although I don't want to give Murdoch that much credit, but a Gail Weynand moment where Gail Weynand in the fountain had discovered that he didn't really run the newspaper. Then in some sense, the mob wrote the newspaper. Elsewhere, Tui managed the newspaper. Murdoch has discovered that he doesn't really control Fox, that Fox's fate is not in his hands, but it's in hands of the viewers, that the viewers are not being shaped by Fox, that Fox is being shaped by its viewers. Taka Kosoz's departure didn't change anything. Taka is a biggest success off of Fox, and he was at Fox. The viewers are backing Trump in spite of Fox, not wanting them to back Trump. The viewers are holding views that Fox rejects. Doesn't matter. Fox has become, and I talked about this, I talked about this when I talked about Taka a few months ago, Fox has become basically a channel to reflect back to kind of the Republican base, or the Republican base once. It's not a leader. It's not the educator. It's not the decision maker. It's just a reflecting pool. It just reflects back. So Murdoch's departure from Fox I think is an important moment. I think to some extent Fox is giving up, recognition that it has lost, that it cannot control. Control the right. Trump is going to win the GOP nomination. It's hard to see how he doesn't. And it basically makes Trump, I guess not surprisingly, the most powerful person on the right by far. And Fox and everybody associated with Fox, a step behind, a follower. It will be interesting to see what happens. It will be interesting to see how Lackland manages Fox. If there's a shift, if Fox jumps, I'm sure they will, but the extent to which Fox will jump on the bandwagon. Now look, I'm not saying Fox has been anti-Trump, it's been very careful not to be too anti-Trump, but most of that has to do with the fact that it doesn't want to piss off its audience than in terms of what it actually, what they actually believe so, of the different hosts and the people running Fox, who clearly were anti-Trump or at least Moodock was anti-Trump.


How's it going everybody? Chris from jashescasebreaks.com doing the last filler that we need for our bowman bonanza mixer This is 2022 Panini capstone baseball one box break random team number nine. So as you see in the title We're doing eight free spots tonight only they sold out a little bit ago. Thanks again. Y'all forgetting that's still out So 22 spots straight up at first from Ryan down to Shay We'll do that randomizer. We'll give away those last eight spots We'll plug them in to our fresh dice We'll plug them into our fresh right here with our teams and at the very very end our fresh dice our fresh list We will give away the last six spots that we needed for the 11 box bowman bonanza mixer So three randomize and start off with the eight spots Let's roll this dice right here six and six twelve times for our 22 names eight spots from one to eight I'll be good One two three four five six seven eight nine ten Eleven and twelve twelve and final time So nine to twenty-two Still in but these free spots are going to Devin James Marissa Shay with the last spot mojo Michael P Thomas Hole Michael L and James There we go from one to eight So our fresh dice with our 22 names now with our next year eight Plus Fresh list this next dice roll will be for the break itself the one box of capstone three and five eight times for our teams luck one Two three four five six seven final time eight times From Thomas down to Nick and eight times for our teams. Good luck one two three four five six seven and eight eighth and final time From the Brewers down to the race Let's plug it in just a filler. So no trade window. We're just gonna get right down to brass tacks so Thomas Gets the Brewers and Braves Tristan with the A's Nick with the Cardinals Ryan with the Red Sox Tristan with the White Sox Brian with the Mets Michael L with the Angels Marissa with the Rads Chad with the Giants Marissa with the Marlins Nick with the Pirates Thomas with the Cubs Michael P with the Mariners Michael L with the Padres Marissa with the Tigers James with the Royals Devon with the Yankees Michael with the deep Michael T with the D-backs James with the Orioles Shade the last spot much against the Twins James with the Blue Jays Ryan with the Phillies Michael L with the Dodgers Michael P with the Nationals Michael L with the Astros James with the Rockies Devon with the Guardians Shay with the Rangers and Nick with the Rays Alright Let's alphabetize from A to W and same thing Pretty much still giving us problems. So we're gonna do it right here Paneedy capstone baseball one box. We're gonna team nine Seems here aren't in from Michael T and the D-backs down to Michael P with the Nationals I'll keep this up for my reference But let's switch scenes. Let's get to it one box break of Bowman Capstone for the Bowman One box No vet commons Just like the last one. This is the second of the fillers that we're doing so thanks again for anyone You got a spot straight up and you want to get a spot in a pillar And a bit of calling in a bit of coffee. I appreciate it That's I know he's a he's out and I think him and Even his wife are both away doing something You know, it's not anyone's fault, but the printers the printers I've never met a more fickle piece of technology in my life. They only want to work when they want to work You know, they always give you attitude they always give you grief and it's just They do it on purpose man. They really do. It's crazy. How could he put rookie? All right, here's the box by the way. Good luck everyone. Thanks again. Nice. Yanni Molina two out of five St. Louis Cardinals Nick Oh, Yanni Molina out of five Pretty sweet right there Austin Wilder red or some reason Connor Plinkington crown Royale With the auto it's going to Cleveland Going to Devin one of the free spots Stephen Matz new age materials Cardinals edition one more going to Nick. Oh, I'm saying man The printer knows what it's doing. It's no joke Not wrong Gonna be a dual rookie dual patch for a rookie Colton Walker Colorado Rockies and James James C. Nemo, Kyle Hendricks, and then Austin Riley Big Bang I'll do this in a sec. Let's get to the fun stuff So let's switch scenes. Let's go back to our compooper Our 30 names entered in one to 30 fresh dice fresh lists Top six here get into our Bowman Bonanza mixer. Thanks again everyone We'll roll our dice for this last one four to five Five times for this randomizer. Good luck one to six get in seven to 30 sad times one two three four five fifth and final time five times So 30 down up to seven Michael L down to Michael Pete. Thanks again y'all for getting in on this. I appreciate you either way, but getting in Marissa Brian Nick oh Marissa with that free spot Nick oh again and top spot Thomas Gates and was on the outside looking in a little bit at nine gets that top spot right there Congrats y'all. Thanks again. When we come back, we'll do the 11 box Bowman Bonanza mixer jassescasebreak.com. Thanks again. Bye. Bye


Welcome to this course on Transition Metal Organometallics in Catalysis and Biology. Now, this is a very interesting and exciting area that you would be covering in this transition metal organometallics in catalysis and biology. Particularly, we will be looking at applications of transition metal organometallic compounds in chemical catalysis. Now this is a topic which has been explored a lot in transition metal organometallic chemistry. However, we are going to take up new applications of transition metal organometallics which is bio organometallic chemistry. This is an emerging frontier and this is a part of the area which falls under bio inorganic chemistry. Now this course is mainly to be focused for undergraduates, as well as people in industry who are looking into the applications of organometallic compound. For the course, the books to be covered are Christoph Eisenberg organometallics third edition, Robert Crabtree, G. Simonaix bio organometallic chemistry, and Jared Jocain bio organometallic chemistry applications in drug discovery, bio catalysis and imaging. This course would be beneficial for science undergraduates and postgraduate students, doctoral students interested in synthesis and catalysis as well as engineering students interested in chemical industry. The course will provide a glimpse of the applications that are available to organometallic chemistry. It also provides exciting the domain that lies ahead of the utility of organometallic compounds and which can be observed from the recipient of nine noble prizes in the last century to the field of organometallic chemistry. I hope that this course will provide an elaborate understanding of the subject and the field of applications of organometallic chemistry in catalysis as well as biology. The main primary challenge of organometallic compounds are that they are air and moisture sensitive and hence to synthesize and handle them is a challenge. If the challenge is overcome through proper training and proper application, then this transition metal organometallic chemistry opens door to wonderful set of applications which we would be taking up in this course as we meet in the subsequent lectures. With that, I look forward to being with you in this exciting journey of applications of transition metal organometallics in catalysis and biology. I look forward to very good interaction with you in this advanced level course of organometallic chemistry. Thank you.