Hi, welcome once again to the youth ministry session Doing well Let me share my screen and we'll get started All right, so just do a quick recap of what we covered in the last class We discussed the second chapter, which is youth ministry with a vision Right the importance of having a vision the profits the pros the positives of having a vision and and the negatives of not having a vision For your ministry that the impact that it can have both positive and negatively, right? So having a vision will always help you grow your ministry It will help you keep a track of your growth as well It will help your team the people that you are leading follow you better Okay, and we went on to see how We've designed the the purpose and the vision of the youth ministry at ABC the method that was used You can probably Excuse me Use use the same method for your ministry in your workplace you know to come up with a vision and a vision statement that is was used using the great commandment and great commission And breaking those two verses down we get worship ministry evangelism fellowship and discipleship Very we went through in detail the importance of all the five pillars That will help grow your ministry And how to come up with Your own mission or a vision statement the importance of it Okay, so one we learned why we need to have a vision Two if you go the next step was what will be the vision and three is how We're going to go about accomplishing that vision. Okay, so vision is the big thing You must have heard this right vision. What is the difference between a vision and a mission? Right. So for example, the vision is to win the war The mission is to take over one city at a time, right to conquer one city at a time That's the mission. Okay, or a rescue mission mission is this so in operating winning Achieving that mission solving that mission that goal small goal the short-term goal Takes you one step closer to your big vision. Okay, so that's what we kind of covered in the last class And today we look at Identifying your audience Okay, identifying your audience Sorry, I'm just having a little bit of allergies Okay, identifying your audience and I want you to kind of talk with me guys. So What does this mean to you? What you know, what is the importance? Why do we need to identify our audience? What would what would you have to say? Why is it important to identify? Our audience the people that you are serving why is it Come on speak to me Dave cannot We must speak things according to our audience We must speak things according to our audience. Okay making plans for a specific group would be easier They're making plans for specific group would be easier easier in what they And kind of nice when you say we must speak things according to our audience. Could you also elaborate on that? To relate to them emotionally spiritually. Okay Yeah, I think I mean, that's those are simple ways to put it right put it across making plans for a specific group would be easier to relate to them Okay, you see how that continues be easier to relate to them emotionally spiritually So the important part there is being able to relate with our audience Is it and then the audience to be able to relate with us? So it's not just one way traffic. It's both ways Right, so you should be able to relate to them And they should be able to relate to you and that is why it's important to identify The people that you are ministering to right to who your audience are Yeah, for example in the context of leading worship Uh If I'm going to say for example to a Methodist church Uh, I have to do my research my study on okay. What is the background and How the people the congregation of a Methodist church is like and what kind of songs can I do that? Right. I I can't go to uh, you know, like a more traditional set of church who Uh, who do a lot of hymns And they start doing some full-on hill song or planet shakers kind of the thing and so they come on come on jump with me You know, that's not gonna happen, right? So I failed in identifying my audience. So that's very important and crucial to serve Your people better to serve your congregation better. It's very important for us to identify Who your audience? Okay, so First step in that is identifying the commitment levels So one program can't effectively fulfill all the five purposes, which is evangelism worship fellowship discipleship or ministry right What primary purpose Does this program fulfill? So you need to ask yourself when you're doing your When you're planning a program or a youth meeting whatever You are trying to focus. Okay. What purpose is this program going to fulfill?  Right and then the next big question. Who are we trying to target with this program? And who are we trying to target with this program? Okay Once again coming back to the point one program can't effectively target all youth One program can't effectively target all the youth. What do you mean all youth? Why can't it target all of them? Everybody's Youth are you right? What's the big deal, you know? Okay, maybe different but then if you look at the The passage below There are at least I'm saying at least five types of youths. Okay, the list doesn't end there Okay, I can go on but just a few examples So they can be a youth who is not a Christian or they can be a youth who is new Christian Right, or they can be a youth who knows a great deal about the Bible But is ascetic about most things we do Uh, it's like, okay. I know a lot of this thing in the Bible, but Okay, uh, the growing student or the spiritual leader who's like, you know full on committed and whatnot, right? There could be a youth who is Forced to attend the attend the youth meeting because their parents are told that you to attend Okay, so you you see, right? That's just a few examples of how the We can't just come to a youth meeting thing. Okay youth meeting all the ages are from 17 to 43. They are all, you know youth they're all in the same stage and like no Out of out of the 50 people that come to your youth meeting There could be all these people in the different categories, right? And so who do we care to do This youth meeting I'm going to focus on the spiritual leaders On how I'm going to equip them even more. Okay, so that could be the topic can be a little bit more Theologically heavy slightly, right? You can talk a more advanced topic Or the non-christian You can have like an evangelical Uh youth meeting. Okay, so I'm going to talk about the love of Jesus Etc. The new christian you can talk on the discipleship topic that how they can grow in their journey as a new christian Etc. Etc.  Okay, so Uh identifying coming back to the point of identifying your audience Uh, now this is a very popular, uh, you know Diagram so to speak image That tells us usually where Your congregation is Okay, uh, so you have the core people Okay, like they are part of your core team. They are there, you know, they're like They are part of all the decision-making And then you have those in the committed circle Can you have your volunteers who are committed? Okay, they will come they will Sunday after Sunday You know, they will set the stage. They will set the chairs. They will clean the chairs. They will sweep the church Clean the church, et cetera, et cetera. They are committed people. They are part of a life group, whatnot, et cetera And then you have those in the congregation Uh, who will faithfully come Sunday after Sunday, uh, you know, and But that's about it. And then the circle keeps getting bigger And then you have the crowd These are the kind of people, okay Even before the pastor says the benediction escaped Okay, you don't want to meet people. They don't want to have anything to do Uh, they just want to put an attendance once again, you know, I was like, okay I'm here because my parents wanted me to go here. I'm here. I came I listened to the message Even before the benediction is done. They're out of there and then they'll come you like the others are too Who don't just don't care So you have all these people Right, and now we have to identify like who's in our audience. So, um, The goal is although, uh, this is relevant This can be relevant to most of the churches congregations in the west and whatnot at apc In according to my observation, not all of them are relevant. Uh, you know We I could I'm based on the observation we could relate to crowd the congregation Community and the core But these were the five audiences that we could observe and uh and identify They're only three the crowd and congregation and kind of bring them emerging them together Okay, so what do they mean? Um The crowd and the congregation people they attend church They may or may not have given their lives to jesus Uh, they are shy and introverts Right, they just escape after service. They don't want to meet with people talk to people. They don't want to have coffee hang around And whatnot. Okay, so you get what I'm talking about, right guys? I hope you are So they are the people in the outer circle, right? The crowd and the congregation circle, right? They attend church or good But they're not committed yet. That's where community comes in And now the circle is getting a little bit smaller. There are there is a bunch of people There's a group of people Not only attend church, but they are committed to growing spiritually And they also volunteer in different ministries Okay, and then not necessarily proactive, but definitely interested in growing what do I mean by that point I'm not necessarily proactive means they don't necessarily Take the make the first move and say like, uh, can I help in this? I want to do this. Can I do this? Can I help now? That's being proactive, right? But Every time you approach them To help you They will always be ready to help you Okay, so they are the audience in the community circle and finally you have those in the core So They're not just attend church Not only are they committed to growing spiritually not not only do they volunteer in different ministries, but they are proactive They make the initiator. They take the initiative. Okay. Hey, where can I have what are we going to do about this? Can we do this? Can we do that? Right? They're committed to doing ministry It is these kind of people who go on to become Life group leaders or youth core team leaders and then from there on you see so many youth core leaders grow into You know at different levels of ministry in church. Okay so This is what we call it as a circle of commitment Okay, this is the circles of commitment. So as the Circle becomes smaller and smaller Right, the commitment level increases but the people decrease Why because the commitment is a lot? Right, uh, and actually I would recommend this book called the power of commitment from It's an apc publication which you can download it from our website apc .org slash books It's a small 30 pages book. I would Encourage you to read that book and also possible you can teach that book You know into your church numbers your youth leaders and what what it teaches the importance of commitment right who The characteristics of an individual with who is committed Okay, so each group size will decrease as commitment increases The circles of commitment reminders of our potential audience. Okay. That's why we learned about that circle the circle of commitment Will show us our potential audiences who are who's in the audience Okay, so note that we identify. Okay. So, you know, let's say you have 50 youth in your church And you go through them list by list. Okay name by name. Okay. This guy. Okay. Joseph. Okay. Joshua Yeah, Joshua is in the outer circle Okay, um, and then you have let's say you make a list of these people according to their commitment levels Now that you identified them, it doesn't stop there. Right. You don't just identify and not do anything about it. Okay Yeah, they are in the circle circle What is the next step? What's the next plan? Okay, the goal once again going back to the vision should be okay How can I bring these people who are in the outer circles to the inner circle? Now not necessarily all of them have to become core leaders. That's not the goal per se But how do you get them to become more connected? Right. At least that should be the goal. So bring the outer ones to the inner ones Okay to the inner circle So let's take a look at a few examples, right? So reaching and keeping crowd and congregation How can we do this? How do we reach out to the crowd? And the congregation you're not just reaching out to them. How do we keep them? Because they're in the outer circle. It is very easy for them to just slip out of the circle and be lost and be gone forever Isn't Right. So because they are there. They're so vulnerable in the outer circle. It's very easy to lose them That's why we have to ask this question. How do we reach out to them and how do we keep them? Okay, so make sure you have a program to which your regular students can feel comfortable inviting their community friends Okay, make sure you have a program to which your regular students can feel comfortable inviting their community friends This service will have Christians and non christians Don't limit worship just to music attempt to have praying singing giving testifying thanking and listening to God's word, etc Create a positive atmosphere of fun student involvement, but with a clear message Simplify your message Okay, this is one way of planning for that Okay, small groups are a great way to nurture the student who has graduated from the crowd. Okay This is amazing. So small groups are a great way to nurture the student Okay, because they are comfortable. They will, you know, most of these introverts or shy people They open up and talk when the group is small Right, they're not Too hesitant to speak up, right small groups should provide more personal attention than larger programs But they provide a sense of belonging in the crowd you share the gospel, right? Remember guys, so people who are in the outer circle the crowd the congregation Remember, there can be youths who are safe or non-save or not safe or they can be a new christian Right who just started their journey. So in the crowd Because you want to make them stronger you share the gospel you share the goodness, right? In small groups you share your lives So in a bigger in a bigger program where you have 50 people In the program like that you share the gospel When it becomes smaller you share your lives Right saying, okay, this is how Jesus touched me. This is what he's done for me Right and and you tell a little bit more about yourself. This is who I am I was I'm sinner saved by grace Right. I wasn't this so so so and so But you know just reading the bible every day helped me etc etc Right you guys with me And I'm talking too much Well, I hope you guys are with me Okay, yeah, thanks Okay, then we have preparing community youths Okay, so remember this the first one is point was about how do we reach and keep the crowd and congregation? Okay, it's all about reaching out to them and keeping them The next thing the people in the next inner circle is the community, isn't it? So preparing community youths we now prepare them to for what? Let's take a look at it Encourage spiritual habits through the small groups of the congregation Okay, encourage spiritual habits through the small groups of the congregation have Consistent time with God through prayer and Bible Have an accountable relationship with another Christian Having to encourage them to find a mentor understand the participate Understand participate in giving and in tithing Memorizing scripture studying the bible communicate ministry messages Etc help students discover the spiritual gifts Okay, so here we are preparing the community youths to become the core youths members Okay, you're mulling them.  We don't really have much but to just challenge them more Okay, challenge them to do more If you know if they're not leading a life group yet, you tell them, okay start Why don't you start a life group by yourself? Right, et cetera, et cetera. So those are the simple ways of identifying your audience And not just identifying them. How do you, you know, reach out to them? What do you do? To To keep them and to prepare them Right, so that's that's just a simple chapter three Okay, at this point, do you have any questions anything that you would like to share Thomas sit down to see if you're done Any questions All right, I'll take that as I know Great. So let's move on to the next chapter chapter four This is youth ministry in the local church And we're going to learn about the organizational aspects Okay, okay the organizational aspects of how you go about organizing the ministry administering the ministry The more particular Okay, uh, the rates are set at apc is I have the senior pastor of the architecture and the youth pastor Uh, I report to the senior pastor directly And then we have the core team members My core team members and we have five locations at apc one is central and then we have north south east and west So we have core team members from each of those locations to serve that location. Okay So That's again, let's look at the role of the pastor Is it senior pastor, right? The pastor is the one who is ultimately responsible to god for the church too So every ministry team comes under his pastor will oversight Under his supervision in other words, okay, so he provides general vision He provides direction and motivation He shares his gospel He shares his goals for youth ministry, right through the youth pastor. So, uh, you know I would every time we have meeting with the senior pastor of us They will give us a you know, what would you want? Would like to see it happen And then he will share as the okay I would like to see youth ministry the youth reach out to the city more Reach out to the youth in the city more Etc Yes, so he will share his goal. He will share his vision. He will share his heart Etc Whatever be his role And then now another we've seen the role of the pastor. What is the role of the youth pastor? He just a few couple of things So posturing itself is can be intimidating You're most of us in the youth. It can be very challenging But it doesn't have to be Pasturing is related to the word shepherd It means to guide To provide To protect and care for others through the empowerment of the holy spirit Okay We learn to care we learn to guide we learn to protect for others through the empowerment of the holy spirit So how then do we take care of the teams and congregations that we are interested in? How do we do that? Okay, uh some key points that we can look at And I cannot emphasize enough on this point. Yes, it's make relationship central Okay emphasize our personal relationship on building wrap Pastors have to have a lot to keep a track of And if we are not careful we can't become too focused on the planning of an event An execution of an event rather than the well-being Of the core team members and the youth Okay You see this is absolutely crucial We can we can get so busy in just planning for a program For an event and whatnot and then completely lose track a vision Of being able to care for the core team members and the youth Okay, so although completing tasks are an important part of the process It is secondary to relationship Right first with god and secondly with each other Okay, once again, do you see how it is in line with uh, what we get from the the great commandment that jesus said Love the lord your god with all your heart soul mind and strength. Okay, make me make sure your relationship with him is right Okay, your life is a lifestyle of worship and then it leads to the next part of the commandment Love your neighbor as yourself Okay, first with god and secondly with each other and james chapter two, uh, he says this is a royal command, isn't it? So if we miss this We miss everything Okay, you miss that point you miss everything And the second part is in line with the first one that when your relationship is central You will need your people with care Okay, uh and in a simple old quote it says The youth Don't care how much you know Until they know how much you care Okay, the youth don't know how much you know until they know how much you care Okay, so as a youth pastor or as a church leader or whatnot Uh You can have all the degree in the world you can be a master and so and so Etc etc. All of that will really not matter Right, like I said, the youth care about how authentic you are your life is how genuine you are Right about their well-being Right, so, uh If they if they see and if they know that you don't just care you don't care about their well-being, uh Anything you say will not matter to them Okay, so that's why making a relationship central is is crucial is essential That will help you and enable and empower you to need and care for your youth Okay And finally rely upon god Right rely upon god, it's important at all times to maintain a posture of humility Okay relying upon god Is a posture is a sign Is saying It's a beautiful posture of humility. You're saying you're independent on your world Okay, relying being dependent on god for every decision you make is crucial It's easy to become dependent on your talents and gifts Or be overconfident because you've done something well in the past Okay Actually forgetting that it was god who helped you do something well before Right. How many of us have been there? I've been there Oh, wow, we did this last year and it it was great. It was an amazing success. So let's do that again Same thing here this year Nothing wrong with the method But being dependent and going before him and saying well, this is what you want us to do now I can't be currently cannot do this on our own. We need you Right. So that is relying upon god in and I have learned that personally in leading the youth ministry is It's the same with any ministry But Anytime you go before him and saying Father, I don't know what to do I don't know what to do this year What would you want me to do? What do you want me to do?  He starts revealing his heart for the year ahead and so That's crucial, isn't Um, so the first three points of all of the youth pastor make the relationship central And then the events and everything secondary Because you cannot do events without the people Who has to help you in doing those events You need to care for the people who are volunteering who are giving their time their energy their you know everything In in helping you, uh, you know, do that Right. So it's not like you're being sly and using them. Okay. Let me just do this so that I can use them to get this done thing done You need to check the intentions and the motivations of your heart, isn't it? Uh, right. We we don't use them or abuse Abuse any individual when they're volunteering right You are genuinely interested in their life right and then you and you see god, uh Genuinely to help you in your journey in your work in your ministry Okay, so that is the role of the youth pastor And uh, some and some of the things uh, you know, like I mentioned we have the core team, right? So once we have the senior pastor and then the youth pastor and now we have the core team. What is their role? Right. So the core team will comprise of a few selected youth leaders from each location The core team will work with the youth pastor to plan organize and mobilize the youth to help fulfill the vision and and the mission of youth ministry at abc Court team members are requested to be regular at the at the youth court team meetings Court team members are to lead by example and serve the young people at abc Okay, and some more responsibilities Of the court team members are court team members will maintain a strong personal spiritual walk with the lord Okay, uh, court team members will see their responsibilities as ministry unto the lord Court team members will be regular in attending monthly courting meetings and court team members Who are team leaders of volunteer teams will send in regular email updates on their areas of ministry to the youth pastor Okay, so those are some of the roles and responsibilities of the court team members And uh having understood all of that, uh, now we see how some of the events of the youth meetings are organized. Okay, this is how it's planned um because at abc it's a unique situation and uh, you know, we have five different locations as I mentioned And uh, and since I am not only present I can't be at all the patients at one time We have to divide and plan, uh, you know The meetings accordingly, you know this week after week Um, so the topics will be focused on how young people can apply the word in their life The sessions will encourage group discussion in which all young people can share their views, etc And so the third sunday, uh, the youth meetings will happen at least in some simultaneously And if I'm not there one of the locations the youth leaders will, uh, you know, lead a session at at at the location And every fourth Sunday we need at the center Okay, so this is m y m simply means monthly youth meeting A pit stop is a combined youth meeting where Uh, once in two months or once in three months depending on the calendar Where all the youth from every location will meet on a Saturday At central that's what we we call that combined youth service as pit stop Okay, uh, so some of the dates that's planned, uh for the year of pit stop is this I mean with the With the topics so on jan 26 we uh We had a pit stop. It's like a youth connect. That's a it was a vision casting meet And then have another pit stop. We call it dare to share this was focused on evangelism equipping a youth on how to share the gospel Here is where we call it as dare to share uh And this the third pit stop April 25th was focused on the same lines on equipping the youth a little bit more in a apologetics way like Learning the uniqueness of Jesus so we can uh, if they come across people saying, why should I choose Jesus? Why Jesus? Uh, this topic would focus on that and then we have the youth camp and pit stop again And as you can see so that's that's how the pit stops were planned Um the combined youth service in other words and then we have the youth life groups The youth life groups are the life of youth ministry and I mentioned this is also the life of the church, right? It's small groups small house gatherings This is where relationship Discipleship spiritual nurturing care loving community and spiritual ministry will happen Okay, um, this is the way they grow and they are discipled they're equipped The youth life groups are part of apc life groups and will be under the oversight of the life group coordinator And also the new pastor Okay, so now we have separate life groups for young men And young ladies and young couples. This is how it's categorized. Okay. We have separate ng life groups for young men young women and young couples Okay, and in some life groups it could be a combination of young couples and young ladies You know it depends Youth life group leaders will report back directly to left group coordinator And we must encourage youth leaders and other young people who are mature to start new life groups Okay, so that it doesn't it doesn't just stop in having youth life groups, but we keep preparing remember going back to the audience in the community Is that you prepare them to become life group leaders you prepare them to become You know take on the responsibilities, but we become more proactive right in their journey as as leaders And then we have youth mission trips as well that we planned every once a year. We haven't done that since the pandemic Uh, but it's something that we will be looking forward to do that Okay, it's it's a perfect opportunity to be discipled and to and to serve to learn more about ministry in itself right We go most of the time some mission strips have been to north India That won't uh, we want to burn poor Orisa, etc Okay, so that's youth mission strips and then we have campus elevates where we go into schools and colleges And and share on some of the founded foundational fundamental topics Etc. Okay and Yeah, it's all in line campus groups are small groups of students gather in a coffee shop or in people's homes or on campus With the opportunity to go deeper build friendships and discuss issues relevant to them So, uh, basically this is how, uh The youth ministry, uh The organizational aspects of youth ministry. This is how the youth ministry is organized at ABC Okay, so we finished up chapter three and chapter four Uh, do you guys have any questions at all because we we will stop at this moment and continue next week Any questions any thoughts, uh, regarding youth ministry? Okay, great. Okay. Thanks. There are no questions. All right. Um, right I hope you were able to see the assignments. Uh, let me just stop the recording for now and we will continue the next, uh class Right


Hello, welcome to the Crafbox, my name is Bren and today I'm joined here with the, oh my god, are you kidding me? Interruption? I'm gonna find the undead. That's alright. I understand. Welcome back to the Crafbox, my name is Bren, I'm joined with everybody else for the A-Team. We've got Zero, we've got Tyler, we've got Finn, welcome everybody, how is all today? Who am I supposed to be talking to? I'm lost to you. Oh my god. There's a duck right there, Bren, good start. Are we already losing Finn? Yes, I'm lost. Am I meant to be talking to Private Quinn? You mean to be talking to Nolan Stormgate? Guys, off-screen, we decided we're kicking Finn out of the A-Team. He's just lacking behind, obviously not A-Team worthy. We have, we have, we, have you, what quests do you have in your book right now? We have a little thing in the description, click it if you want to be on the A-Team. I've got that first try, holy moly. You're kidding. I'm getting so lucky. This character, no, I'm not kidding, I actually got it. I've got putting out fires and an important note. Where is everybody else? Go in, go over, go to the old town. Go talk to the first dude. Finn, are you, are you in Firecat Alley? I am. Why are you in Firecat Alley? Why are you in Firecat Alley? We're doing Fireclubs, we're doing Fireclubs Lane. Are you dumb? Yeah, maybe, I don't know. He's just scared of the myth people. Yeah, I don't like myth people, I'm scared of them. What you need to do, go to, go to what's his face, go to Old Town, you need to talk to Sergeant Muldoon.  Yeah. Once you've got that, talk to Nolan Stormgate, which you can port to me for. Okay.  Hey, um, hey, um, hey, uh, Tyler. Yeah? I remember when I said I was doing side quests and I may have actually done the main quest. Yeah. I've done it. The main quests have stars above them. Did you realize that? No, I may have already completed Cyclops. He's kicked from the walkthrough confirmed. We're kicking him out of the 18. We are definitely kicking him out of the 18. Get Rose in here. Get Rose or Tacos or anybody but him. I created this idea. Yeah, and we're taking it from you. You're the one who's leading us down. All right, delete your myth and start over again. Yeah, start your new myth again. I'm still, I'm still going for you. You'll do Triton off Cam. Yeah. And Unicorn Way off Cam. Nope. And catch up to us at Firecat only. No. I didn't.  I got it first try. I'm on the clues now. I'm just, I'm just going to, um... Just wait until it's quite nice. I'm just going to wait for Firecat, guys. I think you're not fighting it with us. There's no reason for you to be in the voice call. Honestly, I feel attacked. Well, you shouldn't have done side quests, which aren't actually side quests. They have stars, my dude. Yes, for a reason. Like I could understand before they made that change, but not now. I could, I could understand, like, accidentally doing one, but doing an entire area. How did you not know that Cyclops Lane is the main area? Cyclops Lane is, like... How did you not realise that this quest line is way too long for a side quest? Like, seriously? I legitimately did it in the 15 minutes. I got ruined skull and, like, first try. I did the whole of Triton, and Cyclops in, like, five minutes. So this is the last time Finn's allowed to... This is the last time Finn's allowed to do side quests. He's lost that privilege now. I'm just going to give a little touch. I'm just going to give him a little touch. Ooh, I like that. I love that. I'm going to give you a little touch. I feel like a touch. Nice. I mean, at least we're not waiting for Finn for five years, like we had to do at Trident Avenue.  The whole of Cyclops, like, took me 15 minutes. I got a second try. I got it first try. I got it, like, eighth or ninth. GG. So now I have to talk to Private Quinn and fight. Yeah, you just need to wait there. Because someone went too fast. I'm waiting. Brett, I touched you. Thanks. I loved it. Every second of it. But if the cops ask you where did the man touch you on a bear doll, don't answer. Okay. Boys, don't kill him. I want to show off my new spell. Oh, Krampus, GG. Actually, you know what I'm going to do. Should I use the one hit? Yeah, he's got one health. One hit or else. I need to show off. I spent, like, an hour farming for this. Don't waste it. Should I want it? Don't do this to him. Don't do it. Then you have no input here, sorry. Don't do it.  Don't do it. You have no input, mister. I'm so smart. I'm going to do all of these side quests that are humanquees. Do you feel abused yet, Finn? He feels abused. I've done my job if he feels abused. Used and abused. I feel abused. Yeah, you did. I'm going to fizzle, aren't I? Yeah, you fizzled. GG. Kind of keen just to mute, Finn, eh? Yeah. You guys, go away. Oh my God. Maybe you go away. I am genuinely mad at you. Not even going to lie. Guys, wait, pay attention to my spell. No. I don't know about you, but I'm looking off to the side. Just be big boy, Krampus. Coming at you with the nice wee ash cloud that does things and stuff and hits you. Yeah, GG. Good job. Good job. Guys, Cyrus Drake, more like Cyrus rake, get it, because he's a tool. I was pulled. Oh no. You're really bad at that. Not as bad as him trying to do sidequests that are actually mainquests. You're pretty bad at that one. Or should I say a bit too good at that one, maybe? Microphone's far away. I'm not even breathing in it. Are you even breathing at all? It was probably too high to even notice him doing mainquests. He's too high to know if he's breathing? At that time, I was not on jokes. At that time, I was not on jokes. I may have been on jokes later that night, but at that time... Guys, it's tacos. Should I be doing an important note? You should be going away, honestly. You should sit in your corner for what you did. Yeah, I am. I'm sitting out of the corner. Can we make a fin's disappointment corner? Can we make a fin's disappointment corner? As my Indian parents would say, I will not tolerate this kind of behavior here, my friend. I'm legitimately just flossing in the corner at the start of Firecat LA. You know what, you don't even deserve that. You should be doing something other than flossing.  Do the basic dance because you're basic. Do the B-Dance. You should do the B-Dance because you're Europe. What? That's a stinger. That's a stinger. I know, right?   Blazefireflame is dead. Do you spend way too much time on that character? But those boots, what is this? Those boots? Don't diss my boots, okay? Rescue hero? Rescue hero who? Rescue hero who? I have hot boots, okay? You should pay more attention than my hat that I formed in Mirror Lake 4. 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What's up everybody and welcome to the latest edition of the Falcons final whistle podcast. I'm Scott Baer. That's Steve Frickin' Weish in Flowery Branch at the brand new Ticketmaster Studios, which you just toured. Thank you so much for coming up, man. This is a big day for us. Well, thanks for having me in these studios. Come on, this is like NFL Network. We got some new studios there two years ago, and this is pretty spectacular. I mean, great investment by the ball club. It's going to make your life a lot easier, making it a lot easier for everybody here. Yeah, and it's going to be fun to see we've had so many of the Falcons' new free agents come in, sitting in that chair that you're sitting in right now. Pretty soon, we're going to have the number eight overall pick. At least that's where they're slotted right now. The NFL draft is coming up. The Falcons currently have eight selections, one in the first round, second and third rounds, two in the fourth. They just traded a fifth round pick for a guy named Jeff Okuda, who we're going to get into that later. But this is a pre-draft show, Steve. But how can you talk about the draft unless you talk about what's been done before it, because all that funnels into what they could do at number eight and on day two and on forward? So before we go forward to the draft, let's go back and talk about what the Falcons did with the second highest amount of salary cap space in the league out of getting out of salary cap HE double hockey sticks. Sorry, I've actually been prisoning the salary cap prison for a while. Yeah, so what's your take on, I mean, there are so many moves, so many to list. Right. What was your take overall about what Arthur Smith and Terry Fontenot were able to do since the league years started? Well, clearly, they said, OK, we have some pillars on our defense, but now it's time to fill in the walls, right, to build the walls. So going in and getting David Anyamata from the Saints, I think he's a stud, you know, but when people signed it, it didn't it didn't cause a lot of headlines, but that dude's a hell of a player. Right, and of course, Ryan Nielsen, the new defensive coordinator, comes over from New Orleans. So you got Anyamata, Grady Jarrad, then they had Kaleas Campbell. That was a huge get. It's a huge get because of the position flex, right? He can play inside. He can play outside. If you guys, if it's a run type situation, a goal line situation, move him outside, really good, heavy up front. So that's a nice pickup. But then on the back end, you get Jesse Bates, right? A true free safety guy with a lot of range, but he can come up in the run game, but that will allow Richie Grant to kind of be more of that rover in the middle.  Let's not forget the fact that they went out and they acquired John New Smith, a tight end. To me, that really is gonna change what they do offensively, because now you've got tight ends you can block, tight ends you can flex. You got a big wide receiver with Drake London. I think they still gotta add at least one wide receiver in the draft, at least. And someone who can go, like someone who's got some blazing speed who can really get there and open things up. And so you say to yourself, okay, how does this affect the draft? Well, they're not gonna go ahead and draft a defensive tackle high. They're stacked there, right? Even though Calais Campbell's on a one year deal, you know, Grady's probably got two more years, you're good there, okay?  There's not one to draft high anyway, but you're gonna stay away from that position on defense.  So that's how free agency kind of sets the table for the draft and you've already committed to Desmond Ritter to being your starting quarterback. So that takes that position off the plate as well. Yeah, so you can start to see that the quote unquote pressing needs are getting smaller and smaller. Correct. And I think that that's the objective. So you can walk in there at number eight and be like, okay, we feel confident wherever we are, but where can we add? Where can we bring in a player to develop or enhance the latest moves by the Falcons? Trade of a fifth round pick to Detroit for Jeff Okuta.  So you have that and then maybe you can go one, two here. You have that one and then a very recent one as we're recording this is the reported edition of outside linebacker slash pass rusher but Dupree who everybody knows another first round pick coming in. Do those guys influence number eight? Well, two part. Do you like those moves and do they influence what's done at number eight or are those things independent? That's a lot of stuff. No, they're not independent. First off, I like the moves. I don't think either one of them's necessarily gonna come in here and be a savior type of player. Right. You know, Bud Dupree, someone's been injured a lot the last couple of years. He had a couple of really flashing years in Pittsburgh. They let him go ahead some injuries. He's with Tennessee, got a big contract there. Just hasn't been on the field.   So he's got to compete for roster spot. He's got to make this team. I don't think it's a shoe in it. And then when it comes to Jeff Ocuda, I think he makes the team. I think this could be worse news for Casey Hayward. Right. But we don't know, you know, look, that's gonna be a competition thing to see what happens there. But then he, you know, it's gonna be a competition. Ocuda's got a lot to prove. This is a one-year proof of season for him. He's got one year left on his deal. Things did not materialize for him in Detroit. And remember, this was the Detroit team last year. They had two rookie sackmasters and James Houston and Aidan Hutchinson have some really good defensive back coaches as well. So I'm really wondering how things are gonna work out for Ocuda here, which is why I don't think either one of these moves influences at what the Falcons could do with that eighth overall pick. Yeah, cause when you look at it, especially guys, both of the guys that we're talking about are one-year deals. Even Campbell, who's 106 maybe. He's close. He'll be working on a phone network after this year. I mean, talk about his voice could like, Oh yeah. Oh, can make like water shake on the table, basically. Coming from a six, nine friend. No kidding. So you have some of these guys on one-year deals. You're not thinking necessarily long-term with that. I think maybe it helps you up front, but then you look at it and I've been getting a lot of questions in the mailbag. Well, so does the Jeff Ocuda trade eliminate Christian Zala sir or Witherspoon? I don't think so. No, I don't think so at all. I don't think so at all. Cause again, especially if it's a Devon Witherspoon, this guy- Hits like a safety. Hits like a safety can play in the slot, can play outside, but the fact he's got the position flex. And we're seeing this more and more in the NFL now, cause his teams are a nickel all the time is you're finding that guy, Jalen Ramsey does it. Derwin James does it. That kind of that star player, right? Who can play safety on one play, who can move into the slot on the next. You can play corner on the next. But you know, they're responsible a lot. Charles Woodson used to do this big time in Green Bay with some outside linebacker responsibilities in the running. Interesting. Witherspoon can do all that, right? So if you, if you, Okuda does win the job and you've got AJ on the other side, got like Witherspoon coming right in the slot and you've got some speed, some youth and a lot of, a lot of range in that backfield, right? And so that could be a possibility. And then if it's not a corner, I mean, even if it's Christian Gonzalez, he's more of an outside corner. He's got size. Yeah, he's range. He's big. He's got a little taller than AJ but got kind of the same type of frame, got the great speed. He saw the 40 time, can get his hands on the ball, willing tackler as well. So I think corner to me is a very, very ripe spot. In fact, I think that's a position. If one of those guys is there, but then edge, right? If a guy like Tyree Wilson is there and I'm not so sure he's going to be there by the time they pick. But if a guy like that is there, that's you say to yourself, like, okay, we have bodies but we don't have at either of those positions, well, AJ Terrell is a difference maker. But at the edge, we don't have that one guy who can win. Right? We've got to do some things to get, you know, Ebiketti's got to manufacture some pressure sometimes and he's just got to out there for guys. You got a guy like Tyree Wilson who can win. That's a game changer, right? So now corner or edge, those are two high priority positions throughout the NFL. If you get a stud rook corner to go with AJ Terrell, how are you going to pay him both? Don't worry about it. Because AJ's up next year. Got a rookie on a five year deal. That's how you have two stud corners right there. We're both young. Edge rusher, same way. They need a guy who can win off the edge. They have not had that guy since John Abraham. So. And that's been a while. And that's back when I was covering them for the Falcons for the AJC. So I think those are the two spots depending who's available where the Falcons go in the draft. What? Yeah, but. I'll save it, right? We'll save it for later. Yes, we are. We'll save it for later. I can't wait to get that one. So yeah, stay tuned. So I was talking to Terry Fontenot at the league meetings. And the question I asked was, do you need to add more pass rushers? This was obviously well before the Bud Dupre thing and everything. And what, you know, he didn't necessarily give me the exact answer. Oh, did you mean Terry didn't default?  But he basically said, we never want to feel desperate. And I think what, going back to the Okuda move and the Dupre move, is you feel like you don't feel desperate at number eight. Like if the board falls to you and you're not like, we have to have a pass rusher, or we're in big trouble, or we have to have a corner, or we're in huge trouble. I think that these moves take away some desperation at some of those spots so they can feel comfortable sitting there and be like, OK, Wilson's gone. Gonzalez may be gone. But Witherspoon's right there, great. And we can survive on the defensive front, maybe waiting till 44 or even 75, right? It gives them a little more confidence heading into the draft as opposed to, we got to get this thing. Got to get that guy. And what else, what else they've done? Like you look at the talent up front, right? Suppose they don't go edge up front. Well, you still got enough guys to put pressure on the quarterback. Like I said, you got position flexor. You can have Grady Jarrett, Anyamata, Clays Campbell on the field at the same time with Arnold Ebuketti or whoever's on that side, right? Or if you go five man, you could do that. What does that do? It allows you, if you have a rookie at corner, to say, we can put enough smoke on the quarterback. So we can give him time to develop. And I use the 49ers model. They put all of their resources in their front seven. The guys on the back four, we like them, but we don't have to have a great, great secondary. They finally invested in Shadarius Ward last year at corner, but they say, let's put the smoke up front. So it's either way, but I think they've done enough up front, like you said, and enough on the back end is to where, OK. We'll get whatever we can get. The guy's going to take a while to develop. Or if he's going to be an immediate impact guy, we have fortified those key areas of the defense. And again, folks, Ryan Nielsen's coming over from the Saints. What were the strength of the Saints? The guys up front and the guys on the back end, right? They always had safeties who they didn't want to pay, but they went elsewhere and made money. Marcus Williams, all these guys who were fantastic player. That's how they built the defense. Look what the Saints have done. That's what the Falcons have done. Fortified up front. With big dudes. With big, bigs. The Saints form a wall, right? Form a wall. And there ends, I mean, Cam Jordan and Davenport, who's no longer there.  So don't look for the Falcons drafted 235 pound edge guy. Yeah, probably not. If they go high, it's going to be someone with some beef on their side. And Tyree Wilson has that. About 260. Lucas Van Ness has that. I don't know if he's maybe number eight, maybe a trade down. But nonetheless, there are guys with size that fit this scheme. And that's kind of what it's about as you proceed through this thing. As we look at it from a national perspective with the top eight, you're so much about are we going to see quarterbacks in the top four. Could we at least see them in 304? Arizona seems like that's a perfect trade down spot. What's your take on the top of the draft before the Falcons line up at eight? How could that shape up, do you think? It's so intriguing because you don't know what the Colts are going to do at four. Interesting. I think that's where the draft starts. The first two picks are going to be Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, I'm not buying any of the stuff. Well, the Houston could pass at a quarterback at two and maybe move up from 12. Why? Yeah. Why? If you have a chance to get one of those two guys, you go ahead and do it, D'Amico Ryan's. He's got some bandwidth, some years to work with. So quarterbacks here at three. Arizona, I think someone's going to come up. There's just too much chatter out there. Someone's going to come up and try to get a quarterback. Whether it's Will Levis, whether it's Anthony Richardson, we don't know. Well, it's the Arizona keeps the pick, OK? So there's Will Anderson from Alabama. He's got to be the guy. So then the Colts at four, what are they going to do? Are they going to grab one of these quarterbacks? They've got to get a quarterback. They haven't made any type of move. So you think they're going to take one of these quarterbacks, but good grief. Does somebody come up and say, why don't you move back a couple of spots? It's just really weird. And then at five, we've got Seattle. Seattle's real interesting now. Like that's where someone like a Tyree Wilson could go. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. They've never picked as high under Pete Carroll. They've never picked as high under Pete Carroll. Yeah, because they have a reputation for A, picking lower, and B, getting out of those spots.  And they took Aaron Curry back into Pete Carroll's. Wow. That's a name from the past right there. Go show you how long Pete Carroll's been coaching up there, too. But it's real intriguing. I think they go deline to, let's take Tyree Wilson off the board there. At six, we have got Detroit. And you got Jalen Carter just floating out there.  There's just so much stuff out there. That you got a count for, right? You got a count for. So you don't know if they say, we've got the type of team that can absorb him and nurture him and grow. I think they do, because you've got the young guys I mentioned, James Hughes, Jenedayden Hutchinson on that offensive line. Frank Ragnar, Panay Suu. Like if this guy doesn't love football, they'll beat it into him. If he does love football, they'll stand up. Like they've got enough youth and veteran leadership, but overall toughness to kind of figure out what he is. But you still don't know. But OK, let's go ahead and put Jalen Carter there. You've got the Raiders at seven. They're either going quarterback or corner. Right. Right, they've got to get, their secondary is terrible. Right, so let's go ahead and give them either, let's just say Devon Weathersville. Sure. OK, so then Christian Gonzalez is sitting right there at eight. There's either going to be a pass rusher or a corner right there for Atlanta to take it eight. You know, they're not taking a quarterback, so everyone get rid of that right there. Wide receiver's tempting. It is tempting, but I just don't know if they would go that high. Because there's no. And they go tight end, or pass catching tight end, wide receiver, wide receiver. I just don't know. There's just nobody like the Drake London Tide. There's no, there's just not that guy out there when you're talking to some of these scouts. There's not that amazing group like we saw last year. So I just, that's why I think it's going to end up being a corner when I think the way the draft is going to fall. You know, the Colts are just such a wild card. What are they going to do? Because if they draft one of these quarterbacks, and then now someone like the Titans at 11 might come up. Right. They might come up to five, to Seattle. Right, or they might come up to six, to Detroit. Those teams will drop back in a heartbeat. Sure. So, you know, getting that, that could push one of these pass rushers down. So I think that's, it's going to be a very interesting front end, because do the teams like these quarterbacks as much as we in the media think they do. That's always such an intriguing part of it, right? Right, because guys don't move up and down draft boards. That's just the media mock drafting them one way. And then when they fall or they rise, oh, see who rose up? That didn't happen. But I just talk to too many people who think that these quarterbacks are going to probably be gone in the top six. Interesting, which, so let's say your Falcons GM, right? And it's fallen. And whether there's a quarterback or not, if there's a quarterback free when you hit to eight, or maybe not, is your phone like on? Like you checking your color ID all the time? Meaning like, are you willing to move down from there? Or you think? Oh, 1,000%. Why wouldn't they? Yeah, right? I mean, why not pick up more assets plus a guy? Yeah, I mean, it's one of these things that let's say the Titans want to come up from 11, move back to 11, right? Then you've got some edge rushers. You've got the young man at Clemson, maybe. That's a little high. I don't know. But if you fit your scheme, he does physically. Right. He's going to fit your scheme, fine. One corner, Joey Porter, right? There's guys there. Like there's three corners who are top 15 talents, right? So if you're picking at 11, no shame in that game. No way. Luke Van S, he could be there at something. No shame in that. Plus, you pick up more draft capital if you move back. So I think, no, I think I don't think they would lose any sleep if they had to move back three, four, five spots. Yeah, I mean, if that's the scenario, if you can get one of those guys plus an additional asset in 24 or maybe down in the draft, I think that's a huge win because you've got these top tier guys. Like if Wilson's on the board, I'm turning my phone on. I'm done. I'm just handing in the selection, right? But if you move down and you're like, OK, well, could I get Murphy or Van Net, you can start playing with it. But I'm not going to 20. No, no, you're not moving beyond 13. Yeah, that's quite fair. So you're probably checking in with Nashville, maybe. Checking in with Tennessee, see how bad they want. A quarterback, you never know what Washington's going to do. So there's lots of intriguing options for the Falcons if they stick or if they don't. But you said quarterback, you consider that. No, no. No, they're not going to, not with the number he picked. That could happen. And so my thought is. Here's part of my rationale for saying that. The only quarterback they liked a couple of years ago was Trevor Lawrence. Right. Right, Justin Fields. Not with where they were picking right at fourth. They weren't going to go there. Would you say that draft class, which was pretty good. Pretty good. Is worse than this group? No. So I don't think that's why I think they've been so strong in committing to Desmond to take them out of the whole Lamar Jackson chatter, potential draft pick chatter. I think that's part of why I'm saying they're not going quarterback. Right. So the Desmond Ritter, I cannot let you sit in the seat and not talk quarterback, right? I just can't do it. The commitment to go with Desmond Ritter, you saw those four games.  How do you evaluate the decision to be like, hey, we're going to go get an experienced backup and Taylor Heineke, who's been through it and taken a team through the second half of a season but understands his role and let Desmond Ritter kind of run the show and make that. Arthur Smith said at the league meetings, like, we're not playing games here, right? That that's what we're going to do. What do you think of that move, that decision? Yeah, look, I mean, one, I salute them for being clear cut, right? They've got a plan. They're not what if-ing, right? So they're being clear cut. We're going with Desmond, but I think it also, they're saying themselves and that they've probably got some type of assurances for Arthur Blank that they don't go deep in the playoffs this year or whatever, they still have more time because if they felt that they were on the green mile this year, I think they would have a little more urgent trying to get a veteran quarterback here, right? And so let's see if Desmond Ritter works. We're run first offense. We're not going to ask him to do too much while he develops, right? We still have a young nucleus of players around on the algae years of Drake, London's, the cow pits. So if it doesn't work, then next year we're all in. Right, next year we might be able to get Lamar. Next year we might be able to get some of these players who are coming up at the end of their rookie contracts or there might be some guys in the draft who will use some capital that maybe they accrue this year to move up and go get a quarterback. So I think that's kind of the thinking that quarterback is, we want him to develop. We saw enough things. Arthur won with Ryan Tannehill. He did. Up in Tennessee. So maybe they figure we don't need that elite guy. I would beg to differ because they didn't win a Super Bowl in Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill. You need that elite guy to win a Super Bowl. You're not beating Patrick Mahomes or Joey Burrow, running the ball 35 times a game. Not when they can do it, Dave. Got to put points up on the board. I saw the Bengals live last year against the Falcons. My goodness, it's a difficult thing to handle. They come at you so many different ways. That dude, Joe Burrow's a different dude now. He is, he is. So we're talking about explosive offense. We've been proceeding logically, Steve, because that's what we like to do here. Can we just throw a wild card on the table? Let's do it, man, because I love this. There's Bijan Robinson is, I think, the wild card of this draft. Positional value, whatever the heck that means, says running backs aren't worth top picks anymore, right? Or whatever. But then you look at this guy, play, and it kind of knocks you back. He and Jalen Carter may be the top players in the draft. I don't know. I'm not a football expert. But you look at Bijan Robinson. You look at the fact that the Falcons have taken away the desperation aspect. And they've got LGR and they got CP, but only for one more year. Remember our logic of guys on one year deals don't affect the draft, right? Correct.  I love how you're thinking. And it just, I love how you're thinking. I have one more mock draft to go. And I keep steering at the name Bijan Robinson. It's right there. And I think, what if? It wouldn't. What if, right? And we were talking about it earlier. The one thing that would not shock me is if Bijan Robinson's the eighth overall pick. If they take him. It wouldn't stun me whatsoever because he's a special talent. He can run the rock. He can line up wide and catch the rock. He's got all that versatility. And he's just one of those special players, right? When you look at it, he's got kind of that Adrian Peterson stuff to him, except he can catch the ball. So. Adrian Peterson stuff, but he can catch the ball. That's the nicest compliment you could possibly give. Correct. I mean, when you talk, when Will Anderson said, yeah, when I had to try to tackle that dude, that's, that was a different player. Yeah. OK, that's telling you how good Bijan Robinson is. And in this game, with the way they ran the ball, actually, with the way they blocked and set things up. I know, right? You just start playing with it in your mind, and you're like, OK, so then Ritter would have, I'll jeer for the heavy stuff. He had Robinson who can, as many missed tackles forced as anybody in college football ever. And then you got Pitts, maybe falling out here. You got Jonu in line. You got Drake London on the outside. And Cordero's your ex-factor. You stopped that. I'm just saying, I'm just saying now, they better score some points. But the defense is fortified. But you still say to yourself, if you get a stud edge rusher, you're going to get eight, nine years out of him. You get a stud running back, you're going to get four or five. Interesting. It's the whole Saquon Barkley thing right now that you're going through. If that dude gets nicked, you're like, oh, man, we banked so much on that guy. Like the Giants, it was Saquon Barkley, and he got injured. And now they're franchise tagging him. But I'm telling you, Scott, at that. It's a fascinating discussion. It would not stun me at all if that happened. So we've taken the logical route, both in the trade down, if you can get it, the second class, or you stick it eight and you'll get a stud cornerback and edge rusher, our premium positions. And then we got this other thing. It's there, though. And that's what I think. That conversation should not go away. And I think that's what makes where the Falcons are sitting. It's going to be such an interesting thing to see how the board falls, to see who's available, how many quarterbacks go up. That top 10, with the Bears at nine, the NFC champs at 10 of all places. That top 10, drafts are always fascinating. But I think this one, with the amount of different ways that it can go, is going to be really interesting.  They took a beach on Robinson. What that does to the picks after them? Because it's pushing somebody back. Yep. If you get four quarterbacks and a running back in the top eight, chaos ensues. That's what you see a team like the Chargers at 21, just jump right up like, OK, we're coming up to get some guys. There'll be some movement. But that's what I think is fascinating about what the Falcons have done to this point. And I kind of dig it, to be honest with you. The way they fortified this defense, they still need another wide receiver. There still needs to fill through the draft. If you like a last year's draft class, Arthur and Terry did a pretty good job with that one. Really good job. So can they duplicate it? Roster building, frequency is fun. And it's been a fun couple of months around here in terms of new guys coming in. But draft is your bedrock. So what they do next, what they did last year, how they build this roster of the Young Foundation, this draft is going to be fun. That's how you sustain. And what does Arthur Blank, the owner, said for the past two years, we have to come up with a sustainable winning formula. He does not want peaks and valleys. He wants to go on the type of run he had when Matt Ryan came in, back when Mike Smith was coaching when they were perennial playoff contenders played in the Super Bowl. He wants to revisit that, that era, so to speak, one more time. And I think it's possible, assuming they keep taking advantage of their opportunities and using their assets well. So please stay tuned to AtlantaFalcons.com for a bunch of draft related stuff. Also, rate review, positive ratings and reviews, please. And subscribe to the Falcons podcast network for all of your post draft analysis. Steve White, again. Positive reviews, Scott. Positive reviews. Positive reviews. We're so stoked that you joined us. Thank you so much for coming up. And I'll obviously stay tuned to NFL Network for all of Steve's Falcons and NFL analysis. And we'll come back to you post draft with another Falcons final whistle. See ya.