We are alive. What's up? What's up? It's a stamp well from the UK It was a little bit UK it was a USA UK That's when I opened up right now for the fans Brenda Wilson Okay Not use scissors here Do not use scissors here I think I know what it is, but I'm not gonna guess it because I want to be a surprise Yeah, we haven't opened yet we literally just got this she went down to walk who Joe I'm gonna have me a beer Because I hung our It's taken me a Year No, two years to acquire artist till death calm Every single letter is different. I What's wrong? We'll check that out. It might be not even showing them. I Guess I can check my phone Hopefully they can see us I Found a use for I found a a Old Krylon spray paint can I've had it for I Want to say over probably 15 years the can itself has got to be I don't know 40 years old and Somehow there was a leak in it and the paint leaked out. I think it was just so old That it might have rust Have no idea Figure out why this is my phone And I used the spray paint can the lid for the eye because I didn't have another eye. I didn't have an eye That was the only letter I didn't get Because I have I have made just one for artist So there now you guys know Now I'm going to put some lima beer. She is trying to set up her thing here Some reason it's not picking up internet new boy I'll go and Here see that beautiful poor back there. That's the one that She did If you guys could only see it in person like it You know, it looks kind of dull, but it's shimmer shimmery shim shimmer shiru Yes, that's it right there Trace Tracy and We got a phone call today very exciting phone call. I will let Be tell you Let's just open this wire here They do All right, so do not use scissors here. I'll use teeth here. It looks very It looks very party-ish. Oh, I think I see bananas I See bananas There is a card All right, let's see here Rachel Erica and Jeff for use by whoever loses the Head-to-head challenges This is so that whoever loses has to wear this which Basically, is it in Jeff's eyes? You're gonna have to read that. That's like I'm gonna have to like hold that handwriting is a little I Thought it was a apron You have a B&B outside of Derby, but each time you're distracted bear mine for the UK trip you come up here How do you wear it? Is it a bandana? There's a I think it's It says here that it's a tea towel Tea towel Thank you so much Brenda Wilson.  They want to know any news on aprons. Oh yes, we just ordered 10 today and And They say poor people like it's messy With artists till death on them the next ones will probably just be you know all the other Fun sayings And we'll be able to add your name or your company or your YouTube name We might do one a special one for a giveaway, you know put it in a mystery box for our Choll controllers instead of shirts Who could y'all you're right Yeah, at first I was like, you know make them the same size cuz I thought people would like to you know One and then do you know try to smash two Coasters together and get off easy and it's not gonna happen So I thought at least 10 by 10 and you know how or however big you want to do it and I thought it'd just be fun to do you know At least 10 by 10 or bigger, so We want to challenge you guys to get out of a comfort zone.   What is up with my internet? I'm maybe hiding out behind the counter top That maybe heading out over there tonight anyway So we got a call from Mike from Stone Coat Stone Coat basically I'm gonna send us more resin to try out cuz I'm gonna be working on massive And we have so many product tests coming up We're gonna try some of his resin that does vertical I'm gonna try his foreign resin I'm gonna try all these resins for all these different projects because I keep getting asked so many questions about Different kinds of resin. What's the best to use for this? Can you do the backslash of a countertop? Can you do a wall and all this stuff? So I'm gonna try all that out More importantly is if you guys use our ATD link Then you can get $30 worth of metallic powders from them If they buy just a kit Possibly y'all And all of me you will purchase through our site because it helps to fund our channel Not our site our Amazon link down here. Lo to no VOCs I mean every resin has a risk for it, but we're in a well-ventilated area of the studio if you help problems or is Sensitive at all to any kind of fumes To take all the proper precautions and wear a mask It would be hard for us to talk to you guys With masks on and we're not standing right over the painting while we're using a resin and Everything's well ventilated. We're thinking of put a hood in our studio to further help that Really Yes, thank you very much The colors for the challenge are anything that is inspired to you like the butterflies But the colors Jeff was using tonight are Well, I put out that picture with all the butterflies that you get to choose from You have a butterfly you already have in mind We'd like to see the actual butterfly We're also going to use this awesome lipstick pink by artist you I haven't used it on this channel yet But it's a gorgeous pink and I'm excited to show you guys as well And I kind of wanted to show you a lot of people won't use you know Dole, I don't want to say dole. I guess you would say a flat or a Not metallic not sparkling up pearl not your destined but if you put a Non-metallic or pearl paste with a similar color of a paste and then a contrast That's when it really like pops those colors. So I thought I'd kind of show you that You don't have to use all the Butterfly challenge Like you can try to make it look exactly like a butterfly pattern Butterfly wings the colors lines. I Just want to see the butterfly and your piece and I wanted to be inspired by that butterfly That's what we want You're right Libby Mike is awesome and We're hoping to talk them into coming down To our studio so we can chop it up with stone coat Oh, this stuff is thick I said stuff So this art resin is one to one That means you pour equal parts of the resin in the partner And then and it really like sits up on top Like this hardener sits up on top of the the resin Yeah, so be careful when you when you mix it Diane for my poor. I am only using stone coat colors and pigments and stone coat resin Hopefully they'll show up tonight. Did you tell them what time we're gonna go live?  I want another one of these. I don't know where it's at Diane said are you guys practicing? Can you do my garage board? Sure What is the heat resistance on this resin? Let me see if I can look that up for you I know their countertop resin is a stress test up to About 500 degrees Fahrenheit. Let me let me look it up When you're mixing thicker resin Joe no more one is thicker Make sure you take the stir stick that we that we sell these stir sticks are reusable stir sticks Put that flat To the bottom and just scoop all that resin up so you get all of it So it mixes all together and the sides and then take it out Scoop and scrape these sides too because that's all resin that's probably not mixed You really need to make sure you incorporate it all so you don't get any spots that don't set How's everybody doing tonight? Anybody got their sippy sippy or their tea or their water? We don't uh condone underage drinking nor do we Tell you you should drink while you do our work, but if you do because you're an adult You're more than welcome to join us we do it because we're an adult and I've been working all day I was supposed to go paint that mural And started raining around three o'clock I still haven't finished the mural with the uh 64 and the Aztec guys The guy's being very patient with me, which Very thankful for It's a mix it for three to four minutes This stuff has a pretty long working time Pot life if that's what you're used to the terminology It's amazing what you start pouring on stuff you're like I could totally make that amazing What is that I can use that I could probably put that in resin is that liquid let me see that That would be a nice color I know I'm hungry Is this product available in Canada, um, I'm pretty sure he'll shift to Canada, but I don't know 100 first promotion listed If you go and order $30 worth of their metallic powders which That's I think two powders When you buy one of these resin kits, which I think is like 50 bucks It's a half gallon is what they sell Yeah Fourth and a fourth or a quarter and a quarter I don't have a fourth and a fourth Which is also a quarter. I'm not mathing right I don't math that well All right, let's see if we can get this to work y'all Sheila there's no deadline to place this the order for this resin. It's just Since we have their resin and we like using it mic was nice enough to give me a promo code to share with y'all I can't get this any resin My shirt April over here somewhere This whole piece. Oh, you're on Yeah, mine's pretty awesome started um, let me just um I think that you have to buy at least one of these kits Down in the description box and they'll include Two free metallic All right, let me come over here so I can see what you guys are saying I hope there was already a cheer over here So It says mix thoroughly for at least two minutes pour as soon as the mix over the server. She was wish to coat um after application torch to pop bubbles Mix resin and hardener if left in a mixing cup beyond five minutes may begin to heat up avoid breathing vapors Hot life is longer than five minutes. I think that's just for this So jeb you better hurry up because it says not longer than five minutes To leave in the big container. It's not longer than five minutes. All right There's mike, what's up mike? Lucy you can find canvases at blick Mary gallagher. I don't see why you couldn't resin appear ballet slippers We resin bacon so you can resin ballet slippers Natalie I wouldn't recommend pouring with acyon just because It's gonna kick up dust or pet hair or your hair That you may have in your environment. We turn all of our fans off and we try to keep the acyon Not to mention most resin works best in like 72 to 75 degrees Fahrenheit. I know I'm not using this many colors. I don't know why I just did that We're gonna do I like the idea of Jeff planting the canvases together I love these little clamps you can get them at uh Home Depot Ocean says torinole is charging for samples now Sound vote says atd rocks.  So mike they were asking what the pot life is For your resin. I know that you shouldn't keep it in this the bigger bucket It says on here for more than five minutes because it'll go ahead and start heating up But I know that last night I kept the resin in these smaller cups for like 20 minutes and it never really started to heat up So I just want to clarify How long the resin can stay in the smaller containers And also even wants to know if your resin is available in Canada Hi Daniel Please don't bombard him with questions I know everybody's gonna Be like oh my god He's a very knowledgeable man God, I can't even imagine how many how many videos we watched We watched all of the stone coat videos so many times, especially right before we started doing our own countertops Also faith faith wants to know might be plan on selling your artist resin in gallon Right now they're only available in this size But I think moving forward they're gonna start carrying in the gallon Organic and then I could feel better This ultra violet is amazing y'all Michael, um, you don't really have to double mix the virus. I think I did that twice when I first started using it I will warn you. However, the virus makes the wool yellow over time.  We're gonna use this artist's lipstick pink because I wanted to use a non-metallic bright Color that I know it is very opaque and very Amazing I'm gonna put a little bit What I normally do Thanks, Diane. I know the So yeah, lipstick pink by artist's shoe That's not our birthday So mike says depending on the heat in the room and what the resin Starts at will dictate your pot life When you use resin in small cups like these you can get like 40 plus minutes the bigger bucket of resin you have The less pot like life you have So that's the thing get your cups out make sure you make sure you have all your cups ready all your paints ready And if you have powders we suggest you put it put them in there before And then pour the resin in your cups You know you get it out and separate it and it won't set up as fast And that way when you put the powder in before you put the resin over it. It doesn't puff up in your face and Speaking of puff up in your face um Chris I want to know have you ever tested legaris resin We have not I I did see a video The other day that they put in they put their resin in and then they put the The powder on top and then use a drill And it I mean it went all up. I don't that was That was crazy that they did it like that. This is way too much green So they will be stopping the gallon size kicks down The girl said she was watching stonko when we came on Libby says mike you should go down to texas and do a live for there I'm telling you we're gonna get him to come down here and chop it up with us I said we're gonna call it chop up chopping it up with atv What do you think about that atv and stonko chop it up Chop it up Brian says stonko will be when it goes to resin is emerald green which is beautiful She'll you should totally call it stonko they They were um, I think they started out with countertops obviously stonko countertops And then they started doing like walls and floors and amazing and then The stars aligned and they were like we're gonna do an artist specific resin as well And that just happened and we got our hands on some mike enough mike enough Mike was kind enough to send us some and y'all It's a pretty amazing resin I'm sold on it for sure It's got great workability It sets so smoothly It's very it's very very glassy and yet it has a real soft feel to it Mike is this um I know the art coat resin is different from your countertop and other kinds of resin but does it have a resistance to Scratches like your top and flooring and all that kind of resin does Shelley almost all resins aren't risk to yellow even art resin Eventually over time depending on the conditions you keep it in And how much uv is exposed to but Stone coat went head to head with Art resin and i'm gonna do my own test actually on using their resin with alcohol in to see Like for petri art petri petri dish art How it does Pink what is this? I almost said do not swallow it has to not swallow on her cranberry That is an amazing color Ocean I think the canvas is level. It's just how I have the camera. It's wonky Did you say ocean? Did you say ocean? Yeah, we tried your rum It's funny because the dark rum has The proof on it and the clear rum It just says by volume It doesn't say proof That is some pretty stout stuff I put a lot of pineapple juice and a little spray And just a tad of that Whoo You could set you could set something on fire with that stuff. It was good though Okay, I'll take you back to the team You might have to use the new heat gun kick start This is what we love about this This resin Is when you heat it up It definitely gets a little thinner, but it doesn't liquefy. It doesn't go wherever Like it just doesn't go everywhere Like you can move it around and it stays Melissa says I love stone coat videos So the art coat does have a very good scratch resistance too. That's awesome Lisa Fuller This art coat would be also very good for Coasters because it does have such a high heat rating It won't like Meld and mold to like the bottom of a hot coffee cup or something like that It'll be good for your coasters Yes, stone coat added like a lot of UV blockers, which is apparently really expensive to do But Mike understood the necessity for His resin not too yellow So he took that extra step went the extra mile and it's got really good Um resistance to UV, but like I said, I'm gonna do a test For you guys so you can get a visual of that as well. Thank you organic minute Down some of this 20 dollars. Thank you Hi Christina Welch, you just got here just in time All right Barbara, I don't know if I got that email. I checked the email um about 20 minutes ago and I don't think I saw it if you through spin I'm gonna use this lipstick first Lipstick. Oh, this is what I'm gonna do. We got this And I'm going to pour a little bit in one of these molds So that I can have a sample Of it to put either on top of the jar So that you can see what color it is And we're gonna make a color wheel so we can put it on the color wheel and have a you know A random spin it and whatever color it lands on will do it like a couple times and so we know what colors That's how we're gonna paper. Just gonna spin a color wheel. We're gonna spin a color wheel. I'm gonna do that before I Chris know the august challenge doesn't have to be created side by side like this This is just the best way we found to make a dip to connect with itself Hi Jackie The resin is art coat by stone coat countertop Christina bought a gallon of stone coats on its way. Awesome If I do drawing with my cells can I cover it with resin or do y'all think it will smear try it? I I would love to try it. I'd love to see it if you do it I might would take a black clear spray paint though and seal it in Just to be sure that it won't smear Yeah Yeah And you want to hit that with a heat gun We haven't we haven't jipped on it yet. We've been really good so far Oh Libby says Mike I've bought every tool resin pigment and everything from here. I bought the mdf4 to build my countertop Lucy, I am not selling the resin. I'm just linking it down in the description box below this video um, it'll take you direct to the stone coat countertop site and It'll actually take you to the actual art coat page So you don't have to like flip through because they have a lot of kinds of resin They offer a lot. So it'll take you direct to the art coat page and If you use our Um promo code capital a td Then you can get Two free um metallics when you order one of these art coat kits That's like a 30 dollar value What do you need? Now that Sheila stone coat is a us product See you notice that the resin has been sitting here and I'm gonna heat up just this these colors Because you know, I like to tilt it and you get this heat on it and it just stays just right here I think we need to turn that stand off Which it all depends on what look you're going for what You want to you if you want to use that attachment and it comes with a few other ones the link for that is down below as well All right, here goes the fun part As you remember it's together Linda just works in stone coat. You're not going to regret that Linda. It's really good Mike, Liv, you want you to do some live YouTube videos like we do Hi terry Paul wall that is Mike from stone coat countertops Mike, Paul says thanks Ellen says I'm having trouble with my kids. They kind of play out good thin and turns us down. I put lots of mic in the resin What brand are you think Ellen? I think as long as we continue our working relationship with stone coat. Thank you.  Maybe it's just those particular colors I know that like when I use pearl X they stay pastel and almost transparent with some of them What colors low-rather are you using? My pleasure, Lisa Hi patty Little bat it is not a regular blow dryer.  I had to go win a dry brace real fast So was that like a car or Like the roof all Little bat it is for taking the bubbles out Look at that gold. It's like wavy. It looks awesome It's for both taking the bubbles out as well as creating effects by When you heat resin it thins it out And that creates certain effects and resin that you can't otherwise get you can also use a torch a lot of people use a torch and The difference is that with a heat gun It blows air as well as adds heat Whereas a torch is like a stationary heat. It doesn't blow at all So if you like your design, you just need to add some heat to pop bubble Use um a torch, but if you want to create movement Use a heat gun There's green in here Lisa said super tilt It was a super tilt Hi capy um pot life depends on Your conditions Obviously, but under ideal conditions In like little cups like these You're looking at 40 plus minutes. I know last night we were I had some in a cup for almost then It was over 50 minutes for sure it was and it wasn't it didn't even start getting hot yet much less start to set But obviously the more resin you have in a container the bigger your container is The more heat it's going to generate therefore the faster it'll set So you want to get it out of the bigger buckets and into your smaller color cups fast as possible Ellen that turquoise should be a good one. Can you give me a picture? It's going to take you now and we're going to probably put out too much I mean that's what we started that's what we started to do But we were using the blow dryer to move heating it up enough to like make it Really like this especially this thicker resin It's not metallic, but it's still like it's just a different Look it makes the other it makes the metallic stuff pop really well You have to put your um the two metallic Colors that you want in your basket too, and it'll take off that the 30 dollars for those two Colors that you choose Barbara loves the colors Jeff is rocking cool get tick I've used torches before a little bat. Did you like the torches? A little bat that's a new name Yeah If their resin is as thick as stone coat is do you have to use as much does that even make sense less runoff? I guess is what I'm getting at You know, I didn't really have that much runoff last night now when I think about it Except for Yeah last night for just 18 by 36 So yes Extra layer protection so that we can just Roll out I get resin on it The black is mainly to protect the table that's under and the parts of paper so that we don't have to Pick up. This is all psychedelic looking. Um I think I put a little bit too much heat on it the bubbles of resin super Way super tilt um What was I gonna say? Uh, yes, the black tarp will start to melt if you put the heat gun on for too long That green is just Telling all these other colors.  Are you talking about glow in the dark resin? I also need a piece of stone coat. You made a fantastic choice with Jeff and Erica Thank you I need some of those tweezers um Trina Can for I'm in a hot garage shorting the working time with resin Definitely if your environment is too hot it can speed up the setting time in resin Also, if your environment is too humid It can also also alter the setting time and also Create like A film apparently on on your resin pieces Ideally being a dry 72 to 75 Fahrenheit Kelly the code is a TV. Thank you Let me says Mike has almost as many spray paint colors as you Jeff We need to show my first spray paint area Those colors are so cool It's different Paula they added the art coat like A couple hours ago to the their website. I have a link for it down in the description box Greg when you dropping off those artist panels homie Debra says I see a butterfly wing don says it's a masterpiece Love it so far wait till it's done Anita's watched everyone's don't hit videos as I did Jeff and Erica's Things are watching Hi Brenda Yeah, but I can't right now because Actually has a vertical See that like it heats up But it doesn't go like liquefy like like a lot of other stuff does And I love that It stays This is a little busy Too many colors tonight too many colors. Yeah I'm like messing with it way too much Caroline you can order it On the first you know We don't have like a cutoff date or the code you know I shouldn't use that green It's like I see pretty colors I want to put it put them in other colors and they just do not go well when they mix Or you just have to use a lot Which I did not I'm gonna put a little bit in this little skull and I'm gonna pour the rest on this canvas Sounds like a plan Megan loves it Um go through the stone coat website That way you can get the two free metallics So this is how it works You have to get um One of these kits The art coat kits it's like $50 for the half gallon And then pick out two of the metallics that you like put it all on your cart and it'll deduct The $30 for the two metallics When you use the atd promo code Paula wall loves it.  I've never used Ultraviolet curing resin. However, someone did mention that to me not too long ago Erica do you see my email about the ultracast? I did jody I will respond to it just to let you know that I did get it, but I did I told you all he would take this to the sky. It's just the beginning. My dreams are always on point Makes me happy sweepy Mike says Jeff is awesome looks like peacock feathers Oh, I'm not sure what's different Greg's coming over tomorrow. I love the four different. It's good sometimes Don't you need to separate the panels before you store it to cure? Um, you do Because that's the good thing about this is once you let it set for a second it It'll move, but I'm sure I'll be able to tilt it up and Take that off without it moving too much Which is really awesome Purple go like it's all gone from here jelly eye you would love Mike's product his video and his energy Judy, um, I think you can get the resin shipped overseas, but I think it's a little bit pricey Of course because it's a heavier product but I think someone priced it to go to somewhere in canada and it was like 40 bucks for shipping There was today. I found my resin sets at fast and went down move in my husband's shop the temp inside the room had something to do with it Deborah, what temperature was it and what kind of resin was it? Super tilt coming Let's see here. Molly said you can really see how shiny that resin is already even though we were not so close Awesome. We'll be doing a video of my next geode. I'm going to be doing that video I think I'm going to start it tomorrow I'm going to be using all stone coat resin and I'm super pumped You know, usually I'll use a couple different kinds of resin for my geodes so that they'll lay next to each other and not bleed into each other The viscosity of this resin is such that I could lay them next to each other and Hit them with the heat really quick to just get the air bubbles out and they're not going to overlap and just You know what I mean? I bleed into each other. They like Fade and like semi mix when you heat them because they thin out too quickly I don't know. You'll see tomorrow in my part one of geode.  Well, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go To home depot and buy you a piece of wood and we're going to cut it out with the jigsaw that we have So you can make a real geode I bought a jigsaw two months ago. I haven't even opened it Jeff is probably going bad right now and I'm not drunk You know how I get when I don't like a piece Like you will find it I tend not to listen to people when I don't like Something that I'm doing or that I've done or I get very very irritated with myself. So I tend to kind of do He's self-destructive Especially when I don't like it at all And normally if I do this it kind of Makes it better That's why I'm heating up the entire thing These are about to super tilt Alisa Stonecoats started selling their art coat resin like two hours ago on their site You can actually find it in the link down below this video. Use my code ATD all caps In the promo code box And put it to Starting to set Oh, it's like graffiti Do you want me to do that for you? Teamwork makes the dream work In our case, yeah We're making me nervous Because I'm I'm gonna start tilting it and then you know Look at that. It looks almost like graffiti I'm gonna leave it like that That's like a graffiti But look you guys like What I meant what I was talking about I mean I heated that up. I don't even know for how long Heated every single bit of it up And pretty much just this started to move and that was the new resin I put on there and it didn't just like Like go crazy Look how crazy that is like it's actually giving it drips Like this looks like some kind of like inside of a graffiti piece It'll definitely need It'll definitely need a A top coat But this is the thing I could probably pick this up and take those Clamps off from the bottom and it would still stay like that Congrats Megan, but I'm gonna let it sit for a minute I'm gonna clean these sticks off And if you're asking why these sticks are blues because these are old batch That we had made the first batch that my brother made um The person I believe sent him the wrong type of plastic and these do not react well to alcohol So unfortunately he made a lot of them and sent them to me and we we uh Could not use them and then He got the right plastic and now They work they they're the ones Robin I did not take a picture of it, but I will have her take a picture of it on her wall. She assured me she would Take a picture of it. She left at 5 30 this morning, so Jeff take the curve slow on the jigsaw so the blades can catch up before turning or you'll snap the blades Said that Clara Okay Little little fact That's all he used to do when I was younger is make stuff out of jigsaws and wood and Mike says I know how you feel my friend The link that I have listed down below will take you directly to the heart rhythm Linda said this true love when a man cuts out a geode for you Like look at that like it's not even moving But if you put heat on an area It'll it'll set it up, but man this is so Amazing Cheryl says Jeff Would You should start selling your own custom woodcuts and shakes for geos. I know how to buy them from you actually He's cutting one for me, but also grand grindstaff. It's also in the room. He does custom cut boards within reason. What's up Simone? Little bat the link is in the description box below this video Little bat that sounds like a little wrapper She's probably a little wrapper Kelly Green says it just got real. We ain't playing just gonna be busting out the jigsaw True Sheila Jones if you click the link that I have listed below it takes you directly to the art coat page So you don't have to find it Because they do have a lot of resins that they offer The crunch says dragon wings Little bat the link is in the description box Debra said what about seeing the edge of the wood so the resin flows over This Is canvas If you actually leave it as a sharp edge the resin will go to the edge and like bubble up it'll dome But if the edge is rounded it'll pull and drape Like this that's why usually we'll spray paint the base of color So you can't see that the white frame I can't wait to see this separated Bruce if you put the two metallics in your cart as well It'll deduct the $30 for across the G2 Awesome, sweet pea. Can you bring us close? I will I'm gonna I'm gonna separate it first. I am so you guys can See what it looks like separated Well that uh, I'll try to do that I bet you could do a string pull in that I don't think he has any more resin left over Bye, Greg. See you tomorrow Don't close your clamps. Awesome Frankie When you've done this or you won't have clamps What'd you find online Andrea? The purple did disappear. Well, there's still a little bit in there. Yeah, the purple definitely disappeared I didn't put a lot of a lot of A lot of pigment in there, which I wanted to but then I thought Uh, I'm gonna just see how how this uh how this goes With as much as I did Mike said I love the way you work together. Just let me know when you're ready for a team video and I'll be there Mike We art all day every day So we can talk whenever you're ready about when you have availability and we can line it up Ready when you are Can do an acrylic work or resin coat for the challenge? Yes, you can At least they will be selling larger than a half gallon in the future Since they were still in like testing Bays for this resin They only made this quantity But moving forward they're going to make the gallon and probably larger As well. Do you not recommend this to kids? Yeah, I do not recommend. I probably just ruined this unless I soak this in Oh Trudy the winner of the last challenge was Tiffany Denny, I believe And the new challenge and the winner of that challenge are all posted on the ATD's poor people page on Facebook We'll show you that it's right up here. I don't know if you guys can see it. I don't know. She has that pointed down Andrew says she's been accompanying claims their resin has a polyp of 90 minutes. They're sending me some Um, ultra cast claims An hour and a half, right? Yeah I'm excited. I like it It's more of an abstract piece, but I love the drip. I love the graffiti ask I love that it dripped within itself with within both of the colors Oh, I need to pull them in for a close-up for this. Yeah I'm gonna get some tweezers Don I'll post it on instagram as well Look ranch creations. I think the reason why torgenal charges for their case now is because hosted on facebook and here that they'll give out samples and basically I think it went viral basically and they were sending out like cases of things to people and I think they got just Well swamped a lot of people just do it just to just to get stuff and Happy to I can send you send me an email. I can send you just the large sticks for sure Bant just ordered a kit. The code is awesome. Thank you. E and J and my could jump for joy if not veteran I'm sorry your veteran Bant, but I'm sure gonna make something amazing with this resin and paint Hi rica We definitely freaked out for no Little bat the people with the blue after their names are moderators. They have the power to delete posts or put people in timeouts or answer questions So fun go for it. Mike. They can show you some stuff. I don't know if I'm gonna teach Mike much. He's Pretty good at what he does. However I would love to show him around Dallas and I would love to pour with him and take him to uh develop art company Take him to art code We'll definitely do a big piece Hi I know that's my favorite part right here Show them. I don't know We're just gonna leave this here because Got to take these bugs off. This is the only thing I don't like about these buzzes They make my hands sweaty, but man, they are Damn durable and they like they protect your wrist all the hair and it kept my bracelet inside the glove The crime says the local pigment company here was not willing to give me samples. They said their kind is explosive I don't know that I work with that stuff Coming in for a close-up joe fish I have so many of those paperweights dump up You really have to take into account your environment If it's very in the 90s hotter if it's humid it can definitely affect Graffiti-esque If you want to call it that Green and gold. Well, there's the purple It always looks so different when you when it looks like that there's texture there Like it looks like there's something you could touch in it Take that light up Yeah, and that way they can see all that depth. God, this up here. This is what we love right here Where's the light over here? It always looks so different up close, especially in sunlight Definitely a Different one from what I'm normally doing. God that purple you can really see that purple now The waves are great It does look like it's dripping like graffiti style You could probably use this as like a background for graffiti That is fun. It looks so different from this way. You could probably make that into a dragon.  Are you gonna do the plum in this next shipment of artisans? Susie, I I hope I get some plum And the turquoise powder and a couple others. I'm at the mercy of I'm gonna show them that Can you recap the stone coat? Yes, I'm at the mercy of the People in Australia I have yet to get any plum in or the turquoise powder or teal I'm sure it's pretty difficult to make that and then yeah, but I mean I'm just saying there's nothing I can do Awesome, Cindy. Thank you. Um The promo for a stone coat if you go to The link I have in the description box It'll take you directly to the art coat resin so you don't have to click your all the amazing different kinds of resin that stone coat offers um You have to get one of these half gallon kits It's a two-part resin Put it in the box your put it in the box um, put it in your cart and pick out two of your favorites The talix that they have there put it also in your cart The total will be $80 and then I'll deduct the $30 so you get $30 worth of pigments for free when you use the promo code ATD all caps Also, I look crazy and I apologize to all y'all You guys she fell asleep in the bathtub a little bit I fell asleep in the bathtub a lot of it it happened Jeff came in there taking the app at 7 30 and would like uh, even art Edward says have y'all ever heard of the raw artist showcase? Is it 55 for the kit? I think it's 50 for the kit, but I could be completely wrong Is mike still in here? Mike she'd be still in here She looks good with that piece next to her doesn't she like where do folks purchase these paintings mike? I um Sell a lot of them through here um, if somebody wants one we will direct them to our paypal or venmo and We sell them through that and if we hold on to them for too long Then we'll do a fire sale And we'll post them on our instagram and our facebook as well $55 for the kit that's what everybody keeps saying Is it $55 that's shipping? That sounds amazing if hopefully Does everybody keeps saying they're like wow Yeah Can you explain the difference between the countertop resin and the art resin for stone coat? um, the working time is longer with the art coat and I think the UV grade is better with the art coat And I'll have to look to be for sure but I haven't used the countertop for stone coat So I don't know exactly but I can look it up for you screen and let you know I gotta do my homework on that looks awesome I'll try the UV resin what? Right it doesn't like drying Giant being soft right Sheila's the one I did last night. I love that piece. It's one of my favorite pieces of all time forever It looks good with that light. We have a light underneath there shining on it like Awesome I like these like little fades right here I'm gonna do another one like that for sure Name is the alien Stretching Christina the promos if you are interested in the art coat by stone coat countertops the resin If you order it and use our code ATD all caps they'll send you $30 worth of their amazing metallic Kagan powders, which is two colors for free I'll look it up You do get to pick the colors that you want Shelly Thank you, Terry It is each time Angie you'll love that I keep gun for sure Reminds you the Grinch that stole Christmas Oh, that's what I can call it The Grinch that stole Christmas Grinch that stole Christmas in July Yeah What is the size of the pigment powder Sheila? I'm not sure. I thought it said on the site. I'll have to look Bye Cindy Andrea, I don't know that there is an end date for the promo code So No rush Please don't forget to thumbs up Great work guys. Thanks Mike. I was gonna do a pour but I'm still a little bit exhausted I think I'm gonna come on early tomorrow like around 10 or 11 Central and do a pour and we'll also do a pour tomorrow evening I want to do a daytime pour because the Dallas heat is not a joke Like we've been in the like 110 range It rained today And usually resident words that well when it's humid obviously We still are working well with it, but I want to do one in like part of the day That doesn't sound right the hot part of the day We can do it without the ac on I don't want We have 13 windows In our loft Oh, yeah taken for Tour Anyways, I want to do one while it's really hot in our studio. So tune in tomorrow at like 11 central time We're going to take you on an adventure real quick. Don't forget to unplug that All right, so today I spent There's our banana Look at her. She she will point wherever you guys stand I guarantee it Watch we'll move over here I'm going to show you guys our sign that I put up today And she will point at you You guys ready so like I was saying in the beginning It took uh, it took me about It's going to get dark took me about two years to get all these letters Here shut off the I know we'll show them And I made I painted a lot of them I found a lot of them. They're all there the dot-com is actually Drawing I made that there's the d I made the e look like it was in a fire The dot-com is going to go Right There in that frame And the spray paint can That is that's got to be at least 40 years old Yes, that's real neon And I just want to do something different with the r so I keep looking at it thinking I misspelled it I have Christmas lights up there right now. It's not very bright She's going to go turn them off and you can see it kind of from afar. It's not a very There you go. I love it I can't wait to put the dot-com up there And then what else? Oh, you guys wanted to see hold on. Sorry a little dark Is there a light over here that I'm still getting used to where the lights are in here You guys there's so many lights Like we have lights here No up here Um, I think that's a truck. Who was wanting to see the spray paint? Oh, I wanted someone was saying that my face is almost Oh, it's We should have more I have a lot at the place. I'm doing the uh The mural at you really can't see outside Can't see downtown But the place is coming along We have a little living room now My skull collection a little bit of everything all my matches And yes, that is a sword just in case a ninja comes in here If Randy Jackson comes I'm definitely gonna get that signed Oh, yeah, and the bar is up. I forgot about the bar That's some artwork. I'm gonna put up one is mine. One is uh, George Perez and one is adrian evans The bar is up. Do you think we were alcoholics but We're not we just collect shot glasses from everywhere Look at this bottle of tequila. How fun is that? Or the bottle of dom we haven't opened it yet. This was for 10 000 followers Um, we're gonna we're gonna do 50. I thought we were gonna do 100, but maybe we'll do it for 50 And then the painting that my friend did of me His name is allen sent that to me Oh the painting I did of Erica Not this That's gonna go right up there Um, Lynn we haven't changed any light bulbs yet, but we plan on it Yeah, these look at these pillars. That's I mean, that's got to be 9 feet round like that's Forget about it. You're supposed to keep the dom on its side Oh, all right. Well, we will put it on its side. I didn't even know. Yeah, all right. We're doing it Well, I wouldn't put it right there Because it's gonna these glasses will not hold that I'll put it up there, babe. Well, I want to make a display for it then There there you go. Thanks y'all Oh, and we're still looking for a place to put this we're gonna this is who made this for us and Made this for us and her and her daughter It's a nice piece They're just talking a lot Y'all need a wine rack. We do I'm gonna put one down here Or maybe over here in front of the texas flag And if y'all didn't know this is what I do On the side on the side I haven't done a piece like this in a while. This is all airbrush And that's my that's my main squeeze Not the girl but the airbrush It's it's it's uh signed by that person Pretty cool. I love doing it Don't be jelly.  You need glasses and pigtails for this That's a letter or an apron or a keychain or whatever Stale mail is ours. Nope. ATE studios 1409 south of our street Dallas, Texas 75215 We love you guys so so much. I gotta take Kujo out to pee before he goes on the floor and um Stay bananas. Y'all Bye We said bye I think you scared Kujo a little bit What was that?


Hello, in this video we are going to delineate the catchment of a specified Outlet pixel. We will use the PC Raster Tools plugin, go to the Processing Toolbox and under Hydrological and Material Transport Operations choose the Catchment tool. For the LDD layer we choose the Flow Direction layer. For the Outlet layer we choose our Outlet Raster. The Outlet Raster can be in Boolean, Nominal or Ordinal Raster format and that format determines also the format of the output catchment layer. In our case we use a Nominal Outlet layer so the catchment layer will also be Nominal. Let's run the tool and zoom to the extent of the catchment layer and here we see our catchment. It has value 1 for inside the catchment and value 0 for outside the catchment. Let's add some styling because this is Nominal we use palleted unique values and we see indeed that it has values 0 and 1. Now it's much nicer to look at the catchment boundary in a polygon format so we have to change it to vector using the Polygonize tool. So choose the catchment as input and define an output name and we choose here the Shapefile format and call it Rule Catchment and we run the tool and this is the result Polygon Shapefile. So let's have a look at the attribute table. You would expect to see only two features there, 1 and 0 but it has more and it has to do with artifacts created during the polygonization of the Raster. If I zoom to one of those features you can see here that the boundary makes a loop which is exactly one pixel. So what we need to do is find out which feature is our catchment, invert the selection and remove all the other features so in the end we only have the catchment boundary polygon. Toggle off the editing and save the edits. If I remove the background Raster you can see that here we have the remaining catchment boundary polygon but it also has a hole in it which is caused by the mine that exists in this area and the filling sinks algorithm of LDD create were not able to fill this whole area and it created its own subcatchment. We can remove it by deleting the ring from the advanced digitizing toolbar which I had added by clicking right on the toolbar. Save those edits and here we have our catchment boundary polygon layer. So in this video you've learned how to delineate the catchment of a specified pixel and to convert it to a vector polygon format.


We've gone from pouring rain where buckets are coming down to beautiful sun. I'm a loose guy, some loose guy. We're alive and we've united once again with our pal Martin Popov. Excellent. There's the man. Good to see you again, Martin. Yeah, good to see you guys. It's been too long. A show together. Yeah, so here we go. Today, a celebrant anniversary of Sabotage. It was released, boy. July 28th, 1975. How many years did we see that was again? Forty-seven years ago today. Yeah, that's it, Jim. You know, you said you wanted to do an anniversary show. I'm saying you're 25th, 30th, 50th anniversary. Forty-seven. Is this something a new trend will get us started in the middle, boys? 36th anniversary. I don't know, like. Look, that's today. And any day to talk about Sabotage is a good day, so. I think this is like a real interesting album out of the whole sort of black Sabbath catalog. It's got a lot of backstory.  At least they're a little bit more different. The real reason is it's because it's your favorite Sabbath album with Ozzy. That's why. That's why. Yeah, Alan knows me too good. Alan knows me too good. Alan, 47 years. That's a new thing, right? That's a new thing, yeah. Alan knows me too well, mine. I've often called it my favorite album of all time. Oh, wow. There's mine. This is one of my proudest joys. Your copy all torn up. Check it out. I feel so inferior. I feel so inferior. All-time favorite album. It's signed there, guys. Fully signed. Wow, by who? Everybody. Everybody. Tony, where's the Ozzy on there? Ozzy, yeah, Ozzy's up here in red. It says Ronnie James Deal where Ozzy is. What's going on? It says Ozzy in red. There's Geyser in blue. There's Tony down there. And then Bill is that one, so. Fabulous, fabulous. I love it. Wow. And then, of course, I named my first Sabbath book, Sabotage. I thought you were going to say you named your first Charles Sabotage. Yeah, first Charles Sabotage. But I have called this my favorite album of all time. I've said Queen One. I've said Led Zeppelin, Fist of the Graffiti, Clash London Calling. But I've often rated this my favorite album of all time. And I used to kind of joke that, oh, in 1975, it took Led Zeppelin two records to make a record this good. And Sabbath did it in one kind of thing. The background, the songs, the reception. There you go. Those three things we'll talk about today. And we'll talk about this, one of my favorite Sabbath, Black Sabbath albums. The background. For me, it's a- A lot of craziness going on. A lot of craziness. It's a less immediate album for me. It's definitely a grower.  There's nothing obvious like that. But it is a, you know, it's a deep album or deep tracks on this album, so. All right, let's talk about the legal wranglings here. Big, so the band starts off, they come out with five albums, doing great. The band's doing great. The critics are not really digging the band. But over time, they're sort of getting used to them. And here comes Sabotage. Or actually, we shouldn't even go there yet. Lots of legal problems, trying to get away from old management to get new management. Martin, just give us a little background right there. Yeah, so they're coming out of Sabbath, buddy. Sabbath, they're still with Patrick Meehan and Patrick Meehan Jr. And then basically they say, we realized that we were getting ripped off by management and all this. And so they're trying to get out of the situation and they've got lawyers involved and there's a song called The Rit because they would say things like we were working at the mixing board and lawyers were serving us notices and we were constantly dealing with lawyers. And then they'd say things like when we went on tour, it was to pay off all the lawyers. So Megalomania is about management and The Rit is about management. There's quips about Bill Ward manning the phones and trying to hold the whole ship together management-wise. But yeah, so they're just very distracted making this record. There's a lot of drug problems going on as well, a lot of distress. And it makes for a very sort of angry, stressful, creative, foreign, strange, weird album. Going into this album, they still owed 35,000 pounds according to Tony and I always booked to Simpson which was their managers even before me. And so everybody was coming after them with Ritz trying to get money or bleed money from a stone I guess is the expression because they had no money, right? They weren't seeing any money. And in Ozzie's book, they said they got rid of me and they got a new lawyer to came in. He says, I'm taking your all up for a drink and then they all had their drinks and he starts to tablet if you had- It's on you. He's gonna charge them back for the drink. So that goes, you know, in other books it's been described as business managers at this time were just gangsters that had interest in the music industry. So their cars, their mansions and everything they bought them is what you're saying Alan was basically owned by me and right at the time- It's all a front. It's all a front. It's all a front, right? And but from tragedy comes great music, right? Yeah, this is a funny album. I'll tell you one weird story. Like, you know, when we were kids, everybody like the guy who bought the album that was the album they were supposed to represent and be the spokesman for and all this. So this one was bought by a different buddy of ours Jeff Kahoon picked up this one. And we were sort of jealous of them and stuff and say, ah, it's not that great. You know, your Sabbath album is as good as mine which was a volume four and, you know, so it was like that with Kiss Records as well. But the point I want to make is it's kind of a funny, weird point. We, when we first heard this record, we thought it wasn't very heavy. And, you know, it's an odd thing to think but then I was kind of going through it again to prepare for this. And the funny thing about this album is you could play long segments of the major songs on this record and think it's not even a heavy metal album because Symptom of the Universe turns into like an acoustic jazzy song for the last part of it. Megalomania, the first three minutes of the whole thing is mellow. It basically sounds like solitude or planet caravan. Let's go in the sequence of the songs here. Hole in the sky, right? Let's just jump right into that song right there. Is that possibly one of the angriest sounding songs that Sabbath has ever done? Yeah, and that's one that doesn't change throughout. It's just big swinging. You know, it's got a little bit of, well, it's got some swing to it. It's got, but it's got a little bit of a shuffle feel to it. Big, beautifully recorded symbols by the band and Mike Butcher. And yeah, that is the one rock song on this entire album that doesn't make a huge about face. It's basically the same thing throughout. Now, is that attack or chicken that they scream at at the beginning? We still don't know, do we? If you hear somebody say chicken, okay. Oh, yeah, I can't remember that story exactly how that, but yeah, that's, and you know, that song basically reminds me of, it almost feels like the song that the entire career of Cathedral was built on. Like Cathedral does a great, great job of songs that sound like Hole in the Sky. I mean, Ozzy's like singing so high and he's just yelling it out. And you know, it's just actually throughout the whole album. He's kind of like that. This might be his highest register album, I would think vocal wise. Yeah. All right, that's great. Anything else that anybody else want to say about Hole in the Sky? Good, bad, you like it? It's a great song. It's relentless. Environmental, relentless. Yeah, it's beautifully recorded, pounding, pounding guitars, the bass is in there properly. It's not very articulated bass. It's more like the bass sound of bass. But yeah, everything's just recorded great. Really nice snare sound out of Bill as well. But there you go, right off the bat, after the first song and instrumental already.  Yeah, beautiful little song. Don't start too late. I just did an episode of my podcast, History in Five Songs with Martin Popoff that was, it's called First Day Guitar Solo. And I talked about songs that were intro'd by guitar solos and the first category was the named ones. And this is a great named one. And, you know, after kind of thinking about it and doing that episode, I thought, this is like a really super cool creative, creepy way to do kind of a Spanish guitar thing. Whereas Rick Emmett or Eddie Van Halen or Alex Lysen all basically do Spanish guitar traditionally and conservatively. But Tony, Tony's, you know, the riff master, the creepy guy. So he makes this thing sound like a ghost pitter pattering through the hallways or something with this thing. I mean, previously this, we had Fluff, I think, you know, something similar to this. So it kind of fit into what they were doing on previous albums. So, but it was a nice new twist to it. Fluff and Orchid, right? Fluff and Orchid are both like, they sound kind of funerial, like something that you would play at a funeral, which frankly, the beginning of Rock Bottom by Kiss is kind of that same way as well. It's just got kind of like a moody edginess to it and it's so mellow and so acoustic. I don't like don't start a lot more because a little more finger picking there, you know, versus, you know, Fluff, which I think is more strumming. Yeah. And the title is because they would start playing before Mike Butcher was ready to record. So they, so it's a little in joke. It's like, don't start too late. Too late. Symptom of the universe. Pomuted power chords. You know, they say some people say this is the beginning of thrash metal as we know it. Yeah, I don't know why that's ever brought up.  It's just a great super, super heavy song. But as I was saying earlier, I mean, this one basically turns into like a, a folky acoustic jazz song for the last, how much is it? I wrote it down. In three minutes, I would say. Yeah, a couple. Yeah, last two minutes of 629. Yeah. So the last third is a mellow song. And that's why us as kids, maybe we were trying, we were remembering the parts where the song went south. You know, it went bad. And we were remembering all the mellow parts, right? Or you didn't want it to go south and mellow. That's maybe that's why you guys were a bit disappointed with it. We were jealous of our buddy Jeff getting this album. We're putting it down as well. Like, like, fault in it, right? And I always, out of biography, he writes that he agrees with the people that think symptoms of the universe is the first progressive metal song. Do you guys agree? Yes or no? No, I agree. I agree. I think it's beautiful. No, I think they were already doing that kind of thing on, on Sabota.  I think Deep Purple was kind of already, you know, put it massaging in a lot of parts. And 75 Rush was definitely doing stuff, right? Yeah. We already have, we already, well, actually, what do we got? I'm not, I'm not sure. Well, I guess Fly By Night would have been out because that's, that's gotta be early 75 because Carissa Steele's gotta be late 75. So, so Fly By Night was already out. So that was progressive metal. No, but I think they do it in a different way. It starts off with these power chords and then it just like completely shifts gear into this sort of jazz, jazzy kind of food style. I was the first, I'm sure there's other ways. Yeah. I think they did it in their own unique way. They did it in their own unique way. That's kind of like- No, you're wrong, Jimmy Allen's right. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. The theme, is it love that conquers all or just some sort of trip? Symptom of the universe. Is that love? Is that rebirth? Is it reincarnation? Nobody knows, do they? Yeah. Very, very hippy trippy, right? This whole album, like it's really out there in a theory also. And that's one of the things revisiting this album that got reinforced for me is just how great a lyricist Geyser Butler is. How would you guys rate him out of one to 10? Oh, 10, he's incredible. Seven ardent unicorns, like figure that one out. Yeah, he is really economical with his words. They aren't big fancy words all the time, but just stringing together those few simple words all the time makes it really enigmatic. And cool themes. And cool themes, exactly. The pictures that he's building and the expressions he's using to get his point across. I mean, I can't think of anybody else that does it quite that way. He could find the right, I think economically like Martin said, but he can find the right word in the right place with the sort of right emphasis that just brings those images like Alan's talking about to your mind when you're listening to it. That's what I think. And then he's even got to hand it to a lead singer. Yes. A bit of a crazy man lead singer and make sure they come out right. So it's any doesn't. Yeah, it just works great with Ozzie. Yeah, megalomania. Guys, what do you think about this sucker? Alan, you go first. Epic, I guess would be the word to use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so this one actually is different than the other ones in that it starts mellow and it goes mellow for, I think it's about three minutes. Yeah, three minutes. And the last six minutes is heavy when it picks up. But the first three minutes is a little bit of that rhyme of the ancient mariner. You're on the boat. It's floating around. You can't get anywhere. The albatross is coming by, right? It's got that feel. It's got the planet caravan feel, the solitude feel. It's just a weird, druggy, dreamy, gauzy sort of beginning. And then the power chords come in. I mean, power chords that are actually kind of similar to symptom of the universe power chords, right? Do you guys think that this was more a Gizer Butler state of mind or was it sort of aimed towards management and their megalomaniac? That's what they say. They say it's aimed towards management. That's what I read too, yeah. Yeah, all right. So there you go. There goes megalomaniac. What does everybody else think of it? I know that everybody's just waiting in here. Hello, boys. We have my favorite people right here. Also my favorite Sabbath LP. That's Kenny.  Yeah, I was just about to do the same drum, so. And Rob and Francis and Richard, glad to see Popoff in the discussion. He's a great and smart and metalhead. Is that Kenny Kessel? A lot of Sabbath knowledge. Oh, excellent, yeah. What an only Kessel.  So I was in Hamilton, he was in Hamilton and we just missed each other. Oh boy. I just turned around and drove home. It was like ridiculous. Crazy rush hour to get to Hamilton. You know, it's brutal in rush hour getting there. But yeah, too bad because, you know, I know Joe and Albert and Dennis as well. It would have been nice to see them. But Kenny and I were almost thinking that, you know, the guys were being a little cagey about even meeting people because of COVID. So maybe we wouldn't have seen them anyways, but then as it turns out, Joe gets COVID. So we did. There you go. But I walked right into the venue and got told by the bar man, you know? No, it ain't on. Popoff, go home, that's what they told you. Popoff, go home, that's what's happening. Yeah. All right, guys, now we're flipping on to the other side of the album and we have a thrill of it all. Alan, what do you think about thrill of it all? I always booked, they talked about the, actually then made some changes to the master tapes. It took them forever to get this track made. In fact, the whole album took them forever, it seems like. And they had the little indications you used to have to start the song, to stop the song. They kind of put that on the master tape. So he was completely disheartened that it took them forever to get the track and then it gets ruined by somebody. That's why it's written on the back here. It says engineer. You ruined it, saboteur. Tape operator and saboteur, David Harris, because of that gaff that they did on the thrill of it all. I mean, this is a great use of, you know, orchestration in a sense, right? You know, I guess the tempo picks up the keyboards at the end. It's amazing. Martin, what do you think? Well, the cool thing about this one is, again, it goes to that theme of it gets, it gets mellow at the end, but not the same kind of mellow. It's not acoustic mellow. It gets, it gets to a point where you're thinking Sabbath, bloody Sabbath, looking for today, those kinds of melodic things. So the whole back end is kind of a, kind of a weird version of Poppy in a way, right?  Yeah, I agree. I do like the use of those keyboards, though, in the song, too. Superstar, Superzar, Superzar. How are they going to pronounce a Superzar? You know, another instrumental this time, big choirs, right? They're bringing the choirs, Ozzy walks in the room or the studio goes, where am I? Where am I? Am I in the right place? Just this big, I mean, is this filler or is this, you know, something that the band really wanted to put on tape? Alan? I don't think this is filler. I mean, like Ozzy said, how am I supposed to sing over this with all these choral voices and that? I don't think it's filler by any means, but I do think it's possibly the first symphonic metal song. Interesting, yeah. I think it's a masterpiece. I think it's a great marriage because it's a great marriage of heavy metal, and in this case, more or less, Tony, heavy metal riffing with classical. And I don't think, you know, in most future cases, going on decades and decades, you get anything that actually achieves the creative success that this does. I don't think it sounds like filler at all. I think it's a masterful song on here. It's super innovative. It's super proggy. Yeah, it's got all the, you know, the percussion bells and whistles. And yeah, I think even as kids, you know, as angry metalheads as we were, we did not hate this song. We kind of thought it was kind of cool. I think when I was 10 years old and I was in Sam the Record Man, my first impression of the album was what on earth is this cover all about? Like, oh my God, what is this? What decade is this? It's like a 1960s, right? Let alone the 50s. But we'll get into the cover pretty soon. Let's go to, am I going insane? And so they say that this was supposed to be penned for Ozzy's solo album, you know, and he brings the idea back to the band, a very commercial, more pop oriented, maybe in a sense. And I know it's not a radio, wasn't poised as a sort of position as a radio single, but it did have that very poppy melodic sound. Alan? Yeah, I mean, I agree, Jim, besides the actual lyrical content, it's the most optimistic sounding song on the album. It was just kind of... Like it doesn't even belong there, in a sense. Yeah, considering the title is Am I Going Insane? You know, it's going to be kind of dark lyrically, but the music is by far the most, I would say, uplifting on the album. Yeah, Martin. Yeah, I don't know if I'd say uplifting. I think of those chord changes and it does sound a little foreboding. And then when you do combine it with the lyric, it's, I guess it gets darker.  You've got the laughing, which I guess is a friend of theirs, Adrian from Australia or whatever. But this was released as a single and of course died because it just is not really single material, even though it is the mellow a song on it. The last story about it is, you know, the idea of the of the strange title, right? It's Am I Going Insane in Brackets Radio? And that's like Cockney or English slang for they had this place in Birmingham called Radio Rental. And so it was, it was slang for mental.  So it's Am I Going Insane mental kind of, right? You know, radio instead of mental. So and then, and then funnily, you know, it's like, it's like we're releasing this as a single to radio. So it's very weird that way. It's a very odd track, but nevertheless, I do like, and I've always liked it, you know, over time, the writ. Here we go, the summons, the writ, you know, and just to get back to Am I Going Insane and Chris Welch's book here, Black Sabbath, he says that this time he minds him of the who during their I can see for miles period. And I just want to get your guys thoughts on that. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I don't, I don't really, I'm not sure I hear any, any who in it really at all. You know, maybe, maybe conceptually or you, or you think of those chord changes or theatricality of it, maybe, I don't know, Jimmy. I think it's just reflection of the times, you know, the whole album is a reflection of the times of, you know, if you listen to Judas Priest or Rush, like you were mentioning before, you know, it's not heavy metal just yet. It's sort of like hard rock and like a lot of integrated sounds like jazz.  Maybe necromancer is not a good, I think more the who. I think Alan, I believe, you know, there's a lot more that who-ish even leads up into a certain degree. I just think it's, this is an album of the 70s, you know, hard rock album of the 70s. It's not heavy metal as we know it today, right? Heavy metal today is drum, you know, blasts and chugging forever and, you know, high screaming vocals or high tenor vocals. But now you've got, I don't know, it's the sign of the era, the sign of the decade. But I think in total, it's probably Black Sabbath's most progressive album. Yeah, yeah. I agree, I agree. Even though people always label Sabbath Bloody Sabbath as the deep progressive album, right? No, I would agree with you on that. But I just think it's the sign of the times. It's what the music was sounding like, more or less. Yeah. There's a lot going on in volume four, too. We can't, there's a lot of different changes. The Guna sunrise and then you got the heaviness of snow blind and so it's up there, I would think. No, but I think there's way more tempo changes. There's way more time changes. There's just way more bits and pieces of different genres in this album versus like volume four. It's, that's, I find it's more straightforward, you know, but that's just me. And next to the song that of course summarizes all their frustration during this period.  Is that true or not? I don't know. That's what he claims in his book on a biography. Yeah, it's a full band credit for everything. And it does sound a little, a little simpler or a different personality than, than geezer. But, and you know, the way, the way he says it, the way he says it in the book, it kind of, it kind of has some truism or some, some reality to it. I mean, we forgot to mention, I mean, am I going insane? Is supposedly Ozzy too, right? So, yeah, I mean, did he write just, did he have just the melody? Did he write the lyrics? I'm assuming, yeah, he probably did.  They're not very geezer butlerish, right on the writ.  But then you have that cool little harpsichord and a little tubular bell within the song, right? Yeah, this one goes mellow too. This one goes mellow, but then it has probably the angriest, doomiest Oni-Iomi riffs on it as well. So it goes mellow plus heavy, but, but it's, but the heavy bears no relation to the earlier heavy, which was this big slow open groove, right? With on just screeching away at the top, right? You were saying that this is an album of the 70s. It sounds like a 70s album to you. So I'm listening to it today and we get to the midsection of the writ and I'm like, that's only women bleeds, Alice Cooper. You're listening to the way Alice Cooper's song starts and you've got the midsection. So like who did it first? So to get back to the sound of the 70s, if we take that middle section, you got, welcome to my nightmare being released in March of 75 and this is in July of 75 and, and it's funny are those two sections sound so, so similar. Yeah, it's true. Like I think if we wrote out a list of all, but even Judas Priest, what did they have in 75? Was it only rock and roll at that point? It was a rock and roll or 74 or 75? 74, but Sad Wings wasn't, oh yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So 76, okay. Well, then you have blown a jug, but I don't know if we're going to like talk about that part. Yeah, that was always surprising to hear. I had that on my, my original copy of, of Sabotage. So that's, that's apparently Bill playing piano and Bill and Ozzy singing to record a very quiet.  But yeah, it was just another intriguing, weird little thing. You know, when I put on this album, I go, this is what I used to love about heavy metal and sort of the little ingredients from every genre in there, you know, mixed in with the heavy guitars and allowed vocals. I don't know, it's kind of what I missed. Well, just to add to that, the question I have for both of you is, if this was a debut album for a band today, would they be able to make it? I think so. Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty darn creative and it's well recorded. I mean, it's, it's, you know, it's a weird question, but, but I would put it in a zone with, it would feel like an opath or a mastodon album or something like that, right?  You see, here's the problem with that, Alan. If it was released today, it's already been done. So it sort of feels like a copycat, but when this was done, it wasn't as done. That makes sense. Yeah. So it's hard, it's hard to say if it was released today. No, but I'm listening. I guess with a band with Black Sabbath, would they be able to exist today? Can I'm listening to it? I'm hearing all the changes. That's fine.  You can trace, and Martin probably has traced all the roots of every metal right back to this band, but it's like it would, if they were to launch today, would they succeed? Who knows? You know, there's so many different factors, right? The reason they succeeded back then is, is, you know, if you think about it, one of the reasons there are a lot of bands that quote, unquote succeeded is there were way fewer bands at that time, but also I think, I think people, I've always had this theory that people who even thought they didn't like heavy metal, loved heavy metal, they just didn't know it kind of thing. And that's why, that's why Hart Barracuda was a big hit. And that's even why Money for Nothing by Dyer Straits is a hit. He turned on the fuzz pedal, right? So, I think Sabbath is just so uncommon and so strange during that time. And you think of, you know, Bill Ward always talks about, you know, downers and wine, right?   But now if I open it, it looks like a joke, right? Like compared to what's out there today, right? So I think they were at the right place at the right time with the right image, with the right sound, reflecting that sort of, maybe it was Vietnam that was happening right back then or that sort of counterculture and, you know. But now it's funny about right around the corner, right? You know what's funny about this? These guys were sort of anti-establishment. They were real anti-establishment where bands today are establishment. They're for the establishment. But back then they were the minority, right? They were representing the minority and how they felt. I don't know. I just have another question for you guys. My feeling is starting maybe at Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, maybe even as early as volume four was kind of like, okay, Tony, you handle the music, we're off to the pub and we're going to go snort something. And when you're finished, we'll all come back. And then I know that definitely happened at Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, but it's sabotage where we're starting to see that the weld's running a little bit dry if that was the case that you had on your shoulders. I want to add something to that. Think about this. This is really only six songs on this album, right?  Now, if they had to come up with 16 songs, we wouldn't be on the show talking about this album. There'd probably be like eight fillers and then six and we'd say, ah, it's an okay album. But because there are six real songs on this. You're not counting Superstar as a Superstar. Those are two instrumentals, we'll call them, right? Okay. There's only six complete songs. Okay. Now, the reason why we love this album so much because it has six great songs. Well, I could name you a few albums that I like six songs, but I didn't like the other six. So we probably won't do a show about that album. Plus two of these are really long and plus, like I say, four of these songs have an extra song buried in them, right? Yeah. I find this like a very creative album. I mean, like I say, I've called it my favorite album of all time. I think the whole idea, Alan, of the album with a lot of Tony taking over and having to do everything, the narrative for that situation is really technical ecstasy and then a super falling apart around never say die. But yeah. So I think on this one, it's almost like I've always thought, I always had that sort of analogy of like they're just hanging on for dear life. Their knuckles are white and it's just desperation and out of desperation and fear and running on fumes that the creativity just goes wild and they come up with their most creative album ever. And we should say for those people out there who don't know, sabotage is basically the theme of the album. They felt like they were being sabotaged against the theme. We should talk about the album cover itself, right? Bring it out there, Martin. Bring out the wardrobe. There you go. And here's the backside. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Apparently Bill Ward didn't have underwear on. That's his wife's stockings apparently. Yeah. So they were all supposed to wear black or whatever. I mean, people say, oh, it's a terrible album cover. I think it's pretty cool. I don't mind it. I think they all kind of look pretty cool in it. Ozzy in that kimono looks pretty cool. You know, I think they look all right. And then, yeah, there you've got the back. When I first saw that, Martin, when I first saw that, it sounded like a little kid. I go, what on earth is this? And it worked in that sense. It worked. Yeah. You know, it's almost like I almost draw a comparison to a band named the police or a band named the cars. They're so iconic.  And that sabotage album is just iconic because it's such an amazing, amazing record. So you almost forget, you know, dissecting it down to the, down to the bits. It's just a Martin loves it. I don't like it. Alan, what do you think about it? The album cover. I have no idea what the album cover has to do with sabotage. I thought the mirror was kind of interesting.  You see the album cover, all of a sudden it's called paranoid.  But I really like the idea with the mirror, but. Except the funny thing about paranoid is that, that album cover fits equally as good with paranoid as it does. The way they kind of, well, just like there's this paranoid guy. He thinks everybody's after me. He's running around with a, with a sword. Tony, I owe me who is that sort of scary guy in black, but he's wearing his white, you know, white shirt there.  You got a cat. You look billboard. I don't know what kind of look that's his best. I don't know. Lear and look or something. Yeah, you're right. That's the original camel toy. I think yeah. And geez, and geezer even you're right. Geeser as well is looking like, you know, stately 1970s fashion and Ozzy kind of looks badass though. And that Ozzy looks like he belongs on 2112 or on that. Yeah. Yeah. The kimono was really in back in the 70s. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. That was too young. That was, I call that the bathrobe basically. Yeah. Okay. So, so again, Martin being one of my favorite authors, I've got all his books. Boom. Look at that. Quickly ask questions. So according to Martin's book here. Yes. Which album ranked by sound quality comes in at number one? Sabbath albums you're talking about with Ozzy or Dio? Everybody.  So this is according to me. So I have to answer my own like according to me. I'm saying heaven and hell. Remember, if you remember. You know, I would say it might be technical ecstasy. You are correct. Sabotage comes in number two. There we go. According to Martin Bobo. Is that Ozzy era? Is that Ozzy era? Oh, that's all of it. You know, because I think everything.  I think what about born again? What about born again? Where did that come in? No, but heaven and hell to me. I mean, it has it has that Martin Burt's trademark where everything's kind of pressed into the into the mid-range a little bit too much. What? Oh, yeah. Sure. I don't think it has much bottom into it. I mean, it has a biting bass sound. Listen to me on ice. That's real heavy. That's that's I don't know, but bottom in. I mean, you know, you think of what he did on that. Like mob rules has a ton of bottom in. Yeah, but fire of unknown origin doesn't cultosaurus erectus doesn't what he did for white snake doesn't. So I think that's really the trademark Martin Burt sound is is is a little bit compressed. Bring up the bottom end a little. There's there's ample treble everywhere, I think. So it's not like all crammed into the middle. But I think I think he brings up the base. He likes that that higher tighter bass sound. What's a bloody Sabbath is down there, right? Alan, what's that?  It's down there. Right. It's it's on the sound quality. Sound quality. I'm sure it's not a great sound terrible. That was recorded in Nazi's kitchen. I mean, never see died be pretty low. Never say dies not too bad. I do like it. It's thin, but I do like the sound like Johnny blade. I just love it's crashy and clashy. Right. But air dance.  I mean, which one we're asking about?  Number six. Number six. Martin, what the hell's going on over there? Well, we'd probably have technical ecstasy sabotage. Master of reality might be higher. Right. I came in number three. You got the memory and that is so you put and you put mom rules number four. Yeah. I know exactly. Well, that's what I'm saying. It doesn't sound like a typical Martin birch album. It's just it's just really powerful. Right. Oh, what other questions you have there in that book? Oh my gosh, the whole book's questions. All right. So reception. It's called frequently asked question. And yes, yes. We only give us another one. I'll give us another one. Come on. All right. The reception. Martin, what was the reception sound? So finally the critics have accepted a Sabbath, but the fans kind of like fell off a little bit. I think so. I think it went a little over people's heads. I mean, when they when they started realizing, well, this song started here. It's ending here. What's going on? Like it just sounded like a really druggy strange album where they've got no discipline on on like the you know, the the structure of the songs, I suppose I did notice I was just kind of looking up.  Oh, that's kind of cool. It went gold in 1997. So it went away later. Right. So so for a long time, it wasn't a particularly successful album. But as I was getting to earlier, you know, there weren't a lot of bands around and there weren't a lot of bands this heavy around. That's for sure. So, you know, you know, you didn't really measure your success on on record sales so much.   Right. Seventh best selling album in their career sold 900,000 units in the U.S. to today. So it didn't quite hit platinum. It didn't quite hit. But I mean, 700,000 is pretty good. I would say. Yeah, right. I've been looking a lot like seven years. I've been like surmising lately that that I think there's almost like a job people could do in rock and roll that they haven't been doing. It's like go out and get the next level of certification based on streaming. I've I've looked at I did an episode of my podcast where I looked at Ace of Spades and I think I think Ace of Spades is a gold record now based based on if you if you went and did the stream if you calculate the streams. Yeah, but it would take management or or or, you know, Maria or somebody, you know, because the band's all dead, right? It takes somebody to want to go and get that straightened out. But I swear, I think Motorhead has a has a goal. Nice. Just so you know that when I spoke to Sabaton a while back, you know, they told me their album went gold in Sweden and I go, really, you sold that many copies. I don't know 50,000, whatever it is. It was no, no, we count in Sweden by streams and downloads and no, but you do in America, too. And and and basically Ace of Spades because that song's been played however million times I did the math on this episode and worked it all out, you know, divided by 15 and 10 songs and all this stuff, the way you're supposed to do it. And and I think Ace of Spades basically now goes over the top. But, you know, having said that, I guess what I'm getting to is you actually somewhere if you see somewhere 900,000 official, I bet with the streaming sabotage is a platinum out. But it's not an RIA certification. But that's no, but that's what you get if you go ask for it to be certified because there is streaming math that you apply to this. And that's why you can go on if there's a neat thing on RIA you can look at what got certified in 2021 and 2022 and some bands have gone back for these old albums and redid their stuff. And you know, Rush, for example, moving pictures all my life. I thought of it. Oh, cool. Rush's got a four times platinum album right on 2021. It went five times platinum. And that's because someone went back and added in at that point that you're adding in, you're doing the math on the streaming and someone went back and got it officially done. And now when you open wiki and you look at it, it's like moving pictures is five times platinum. You know, Alan Martin is the the son of a mathematician. You know that? Yes.  Well, I just want this little knowledge. I just want Ace of Spades to be certified gold. So somebody's got to go do that, whether it's Maria Ferrero or you know, whoever whoever management is of the legacy of Motorhead, somebody's got to go to work and go get that done. Just the fact we're hearing Ace of Spades and car commercials now, you know, these guys were the black sheep back in the 80s, right?  And now you got commercials for cars and everything else Ace of Spades used for all kinds of things. See, that's the point. Back in the old days, your record sold a lot of copies because you had Beth on destroyer or something, right? Nowadays Ace of Spades, the entire album is literally mathematically dragged into we sold this many copies and this many 10,000 this month or 10,000 this year, 10,000 next year. And all of those sales quote unquote is because of the single Ace of Spades in a different way than it was in the 70s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. There you have it. Sabotage, saboteur, black Sabbath. We're celebrating. What do we got? 47 years? 47 years. We're going to start a new trend. Yeah, every 37 or 27 or 17 years. We're going to do a show reviewing albums. Yeah, I think this is a worthy anniversary. There's a lot of backstory. You know, this is the rise and this is the definitely the fall of black Sabbath after this. This was the changing right this point. Well, it's definitely my favorite Sabbath album and it may be my favorite album of all time still. So that's how the show started and it's a great way to end as well. Guys, I think we're done. Okay. Thanks Martin. All right. Thanks guys. Always a pleasure. You want to work on anything you want to plug? Yeah, yeah, not particularly. I've got a lot of books in the pipeline ready to come out, but I'm not really working on much now. We've just got the contrarian show, the history and five song show, and I've been doing a lot of these rock star portraits, pencil crayon on black ink and then making prints of them and even making little cards of them and stuff. So I've been doing a lot of that. But yeah, a lot of video shows not really working on a lot of books, but I added it up. I think I've got eight books finished that are coming out eventually, right? We're finally going to get that Bee Gees anthology book. Absolutely. Yeah. Bee Gees. Can we see those drawings on your website? Yeah. Well, so martinpopoff.ca you can see all the fake ads that I've done in about half the portraits, but you could go to artpal.com and my gallery and see all 50 portraits. So there's 50 exactly now. Plus I've done seven new ones, but I haven't done prints of those. And yeah, that's it. Those are the two main new sites. So martinpopoff.com is still all the books plus my old paintings from the 90s. That's a whole another story. But yeah, for the art, martinpopoff.ca and artpal.com and my gallery. You know what? I think the next show we're all going to do together is Born Again, which is coming up the anniversary. Black Sabbath, Born Again. Alan, I always bring it up with Alan. Because that's his second favorite Black Sabbath album. And I was waiting for a phone call. He has the gall to pull it off at the end of this show. I think the next one, the 36 years. All right, guys. Cool. All right.