What's up everybody? Welcome to Hot Makes right here in, well, I'm in Arizona. That's where I'm at. I'm at an art gallery as you can see. I got the crazy vacation hair going and I'm in an art gallery. No, I'm not in an art gallery. We're staying with my dad here in Arizona and I don't have my wireless earbuds with me so I've luckily had these nice in-ears and hopefully you guys can hear me. You can see me. New set. Yes. Not so much. Not so much. But yeah, we're here. We're rocking. Wow. Look at this. Are we working? Can you hear me? A magical Caleb appears. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. Yes. What is up? What's up? Yeah. So I was having some computer issues. I am not in my normal, so one, I don't have my office obviously, but I was a few weeks ago. I did it in the office where I normally work, like at my work computer. That's not available at the moment. So now I'm in a conference room, which feels weird because I feel like I'm in a meeting right now. Yeah. Well, I mean, we are the meeting of the minds. That's what we're doing here. Meeting of the minds. There we go. Well, it's been a week since we were at Rocky Mountain Rep Rep Festival. How you been? It doesn't feel like it's been, I know, right? It feels like it was just a few days ago. I'm with you. How was your week? How was your ride home? All that stuff. Flight home was fine. No big hiccups. Slight flight delay, but that was it. Yeah. That's all it was. Nice. Well, we're sorry. I feel so, my vibe is probably off because I feel so weird sitting in a, in my conference room where I normally have meetings at work right now. Where numbers like a whole conference room people like around you right now. Yeah. I'm surrounded by the board, like a board of trustees. That would be amazing. I'm in here with the council of Andrews right now. It also doesn't help that you're not in your normal setup too. So everything about this feels so strange at the moment. Yeah. And I was like, where do I, I don't know where to set up. I could set up outside, but it's like 98, 90 something degrees. Let's, let's go just for the heck of it. Let's go see. It was like 98 earlier. And I was like, now I don't want to melt. Yesterday when we flew in, it was 102. So there's that. It's 94 and very windy. So I was like, I better not be outside. And then it's so weird because I have this like Logitech C920 camera and I don't have my normal camera set up, but I am using my, my road wireless mic. So at least we have okay audio, I hope. There you go. We're like, we're like, you can't see mine because it's under the beard. Nice. Nice. But hopefully everybody out there is doing good. We've been, we were at Rocky Mountain Rep Rep Festival a week ago. I can't talk. Yeah. Rocky Mountain Rep Festival a week ago. It was phenomenal by the way. We have Justin with us tonight. We're going to talk a little bit about how it went, how he thought it went, how we did, all the good stuff. And also Did you already tell everybody where you are? I am. I'm in Arizona. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, okay. I did. I'm in Arizona. I'm at an art gallery as you can see clearly from the painting behind me. Is that sarcasm or are you actually at an art gallery? That's both. I'm not at an art gallery, but it looks like one in here. So there's that. But no, we're hanging. If you have any questions, let us know. We're going to shoot questions off about Rocky Mountain Rep Rep Festival all show.  I just totally remembered. I bet you if we're on my channel, nightbot is freaking out right now because I did a live stream. I would have a computer issue. So I don't, sorry. I don't have the chats up. Because I also only have this one screen. Let me just do this on nightbot. Sorry about that. If you're watching on the edge of tech channel. There we go. And Brian's with us. What's up, Brian? Yeah, ask, ask questions. If you have, if you want to toss us anything, there is a PayPal link in the description below. And if you want to see any of the hot mix links, as always, there's a Google link in the description below that will go to a shared Google doc and find episode 146. Holy moly. It's a lot of episodes six. Yeah. Anything else? Am I missing anything? Let's see. We don't have to worry about the Rocky Mountain Rep Rep Festival coming up because we already had it. It was last week. Yeah. But still great job to Justin, Zach, and Mike. Absolutely. That's why I left the notes in there for that. I wanted to give him a hundred percent. I want to talk to Justin. As soon as he's on the show, though, we didn't give him no kudos. I don't even know what he's talking about. Who's Justin? Yeah, who says, yeah, if zombie, if zombie Hitchhog is watching, which looks like he is, who's that? Anyway, what's that? And also thank you for all of the help he gave us from our, from our live stream. That was, dude, that was awesome. Yeah, the zombie, are you going to Murph? He says he has to worry about Murph, but I don't know if he's going. He better be going. It could be. We'll be there. Tripod, you're going to be there? This is your last week. He'll be there. Okay. But all right, we're going to get rocking and going. I don't know if you can hear, but my little man is running around. I'm going to show you the culprit of the yawning is this, right here. Yeah, that's that's somebody decided to empty the coffee urns in the break room before they left. Yeah. That's what maker tears are made of. Yeah. Hey, Tristan, Tristan, come here. You want to come say hi? Yeah. Oh, come say hi. Come say hi real quick. Ready? One, two, three. I'm going to go this way though, because I have all sorts of cables, plug in. There he is. Hey, boy. Here, turn this way. Here you go. Look right here. He's running around, right there. Say hi. Hey. Hey. Can you tell him your name? Tristan. Yeah, that's pretty good. Say hi. Don't worry. I have an iPad today as a second monitor, so when we do hot makes, I can actually watch what they look like on the screen. His face looks so much like Lindsay, but then he just has your hair. Yeah. All the above. Sorry. I have these, I was telling these guys before you got here, or maybe I was telling Justin, I forgot my wireless earbuds today, or not today, this whole week, because I left them in my other carry-on, and all I had in my bag were some Shure wired in-ear microphone for phones. So they're amazing, but it drowns everything else out. I can't hear anything. What was that? Yeah, exactly. Can you say hi, Caleb? Hi, Caleb. Hey, Tristan. Here you go. Can you say who's Zombie Hedgehog? Yeah, there you go. There you go. Nice. So cute. Well, we're going to look at some cool stuff, and we're going to bring Justin in. You want to say hi to Justin before you go? Hi, Justin. Oh, hang on. Let me get him in. You ready, Caleb? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Ladies, gentlemen, we have Justin from the Rocky Mountain Repro Festival. You know him as Beaker 3D. What's up? Hey, guys. Sorry. He said he asked if I was ready to bring him in as he was going to click it. Well, then I thought about what I was thinking about doing it, but Little Man is controlling my trackpad right now. So we may lose Jim, then. Okay. So they're saying hi. Yeah. I trust you. I know. Wave. Everybody's saying hi. Everybody's sitting there staring at the computers doing this. Like end of a Zoom call. Yeah. You're going to go play? Sometimes people end up free. Uh-oh. What happened? He's still moving. You know, it's awesome.  Next time you and I need to coordinate that better, Caleb. Yeah. Justin, we should just kick Jim off the stream. He'll pick it up. Oh, hang on. Hang on. Don't do that. Don't click that button. That's the leave studio button. Justin, you said your boss's kid's name is Tristan. Does that mean Jim is your boss? No. No. No. Did we just get a boss reveal? There you go. Boss reveal. Boss reveal. Live. You heard it here first, first. Better than working where I work. So I hope they're not watching. So it's been a week since the event. How's it been? Running an event is a very different feeling than just going, seeing everyone, being able to just talk with everyone, and then the post convention, what's called a hangover. That was rough the first few days because you always want to be with everybody. You always want to hang out.  My legs are finally recovered. Oh, yeah. My back still hurts. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You were hurting. I did 80,000 steps over three days. 38 miles. So it was worth it. Just don't tell my legs. My legs. I could not walk last Monday. I literally laid in bed all day. But it was worth it. It was amazing. You guys did an amazing job. I was very impressed with for a first year. Love you. It was beyond anything. Not even for a first year, dude. If that was your fifth year, I would have been impressed. I know for a first year to go off like it did with minimal issues. Yeah. You know, it was insane. And we just have to do it again next year. Yeah.  What do you mean? You have three legs. You're literally a tripod. Yeah. You have one more leg than we do. We have a right to complain. Yeah. You have three legs holding the load. I have two, sir. That's 50% per leg. Right. All right. There's my rant for the day. Hey, the Caleb rant replaces the Pooch Rants. Yeah, there we go. We need to start that again. But that might be copyrighted. Yeah. You know, that was insane. Like the amount of people, people coming from everywhere, the Voron team, as far as I heard, it was the first time the Voron main team had been together as a group. Oh, wow. That's awesome. They had 25 or so people. They had a lot of people there. Yeah. So one thing that I will show, because the Voron team is just that awesome. Sorry. Got a lot of stuff in this room. Oh, they gave it to you? They gave it to me, and they signed it. Oh, look at that thing. That's awesome. That's amazing. They still on the overhang with two different pieces, but yeah, Doc handed it to me about an hour and a half before the event ended. Nice. It looks like a giant Rubik's cube. It really does. I want to solve it really bad. It's like at least 15 pounds, too. I recently learned me how to solve a Rubik's cube. So like making a Rubik's cube that's scrambled, but super glued together so I can't solve it would be a nightmare. Right? Oh, zombie. Yeah, that was that was insane that they handed it to to me of anyone. They could have handed it to Mike or Zach easily. And Doc's like, here you go. I'm like, it was like four o'clock in the afternoon on Sunday, and I almost broke down because it was just so thoughtful. Also, to be fair, you're here and they aren't. So I'm kidding. I'm just messing with you. Everybody put in a lot of effort. The Voron team had a massive amount of printers. Mr. Dattles says, love the event, my first IRF, but won't be my last big Jano. Nice feature on the 60 seconds with 3D printing. Speaking of which, I have started the video edit, but there is a there were I forget how many like it was over 100. It was like 180 or so gigabytes of footage. Whoa. It was a lot of footage and photos. Sarah took just still images alone. Sarah took over 1400 pictures throughout the course of the weekend. Now, a lot of those were like the same pictures because it was on the fast shutter. But when I edited them all down, I still ended up adding like over 200 photos to that group album of the good ones from those 1400. So think about how much video we have with two cameras and go pros, which by the way, I need that GoPro footage. Yes, I want to see that GoPro footage from my my battle racer dying. Me too. Yeah, that'd be awesome to see. Now, also, to be fair, one camera was shooting 4k. So the files are a little bit larger, but still, there were a good 200 or 300 video files to start working through. So I wish I had the planning ahead of time and like the time on my plate to do the quick 60 second things that Joel's doing. But for us, it's a little bit more of a slower and I just actually was going to do it better. I was going to do 61 seconds this year. 59 seconds better, right? Yeah, yeah, 39, yeah, 30 seconds next year. We do 69 second spots. I approve this idea. I have the power. Let's do it there. But let's back up for a second. Amazing event. We all flew in. We had a great time. First day, we're kicking off the event. You haven't seen the footage yet, anybody else, but there was a line outside that was a good size line waiting to get in and it's like 35 or 40 degrees or something.  There you go. There's some footage. So there was a that that's part of the line. Oh, geez. We went back to the other building. Yeah. And so we had so much fun with that. We brought everybody in. And the first day, I think you said we hit something like 2100 people, right? So 2154. So many. We under we didn't know when we ordered land years. We only ordered 1,350 public land years. We that was when we had gone 100 people signed up. Yeah. Yeah, six weeks before the event, seven weeks ago at this point, gone by 1230. Nice. Out gone. And then they reported the number at 330 and we had hit 1,800 people, which I'm not bragging, but I'm a little bragging. Murph and Earth do 1,700, 1,800 a year over two days. We did that in six and a half. I thought I thought that was like people through the door. Is that total? Because I think there's this total, total, because like your second day, right? Did you count everybody through the door? We did. Or did you count total people through the door? Okay, Saturday, Sunday. So so what could have been half repeats?  So, you know, over those two days, if it's a different day, I say that counts. 3,100 right around there. Right. Yeah, we 3,150 and then in sponsors and staff with the sponsors, makers and staff, event staff, we had another about 350. So all total we had 3,500 people come through that building in total three days, including setup day, which was insane. And then it's just awesome. So I mean, Saturday by like 11, 12 o'clock, it was busy in there. It was very busy. And yeah, we had a huge crowd for battle racers and drag racers Saturday, a pretty good size crowd on Sunday. And that was just a ton of fun, a lot of fun with that. Thank you to Scott for the for the drag racer stuff.  Some amazing stuff. I'm trying to pull up some of the footage. I'm trying to see if I can drive this laptop into the ground by having so many inputs and also pull up. I've got photos. If you want me to share, I can always click through my shared photo pile. Jerry's asking, but they had yeah, hand clickers. I do want to give a shout out to Steven Z and geek toy box Dom. They flew in, Dom flew in from California, Zura flew in from Ohio. And we needed a few extra hands running around and they were insanely helpful. Yeah, just managing the little stuff that we needed to have managed. So thank you guys want to point out real quick this comment by my dad where he he misspelled nerdy Johnny. And I just want to say I just want to take a moment to acknowledge how accurate that not kidding. Listen here. Listen here, Ben. Yeah, yeah. No, it was so much fun.  Filament stories. She's with us right now.  I know we have actually scheduled her to be on the show soon, which is awesome. But we met so many new people. And not only that, like, it's awesome to meet the makers that are in the area, the community all around. But so many people from the community and the outline communities and the surrounding states just came to check it out.  And they just came in for the day or for two days to check it out. And it was really a very cool family event. And there was a ton of people walking around with their families with the kids, whether dad drug the family there or it was a mom, a mom with four kids showed up and stuff like that. But it was so much fun. And it was so cool to see the families and meet the people. And yeah, that was pretty cool. The mom with four kids. That was just awesome because I had built a second battle racer and I didn't have anyone to run it. So I went to Jim, hey, Jim, find someone. And he found Atticus. Atticus. Yes. Yeah. I do have pictures. Tommy and Tommy Anders or Tammy Anderson. I'm sorry. That was her name. She says Atticus says hi. There you go. Oh, hey, hey. Thank you. It's great to see you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to find a photo. The story was awesome.  Go ahead. So we're talking. I'm talking to them and they're like, oh, these are cool. They hadn't seen them yet. And Justin tells me we need a racer and asked me if I wanted to race. And I was like, well, kind of them seeing I probably shouldn't be racing at the same time. But we're going to find somebody. And then I started talking to Tammy and her four kids. I think she came with her four kids. And Atticus was one of them. And I said, don't worry. I think I'm going to see if I can get you to race this thing. So we kind of played it good. It ended up happening. And Atticus actually won the race on Saturday. And he came in, never seen one, never raced one, never drove one. I mean, he had the controller in his hand, Justin showed him how to work it. And he ends up winning. It was amazing. And yeah, he ends up winning. And then from then on, it was awesome. We gave him, it was super cool to see how happy he was. He won like $500 from Polymaker for another 3D printer. I know they said they had two 3D printers right now. I think it was an Ender 3 Pro and an Ender 3D V2, if I remember right. And yeah, Scott is right on. And so Justin comes over and he's like, I'm going to go talk to my wife. I'll be right back. And he comes back and they, I think Tammy and the kids come back around by us. And I said, Justin, we need you to come back. Because he went around and he comes back over.  I think we all did. But Justin actually handed him the battle racer, like complete build, controller, battery. And he said, here you go. You won. This is yours now. And I just got goosebumps. Yeah. It makes me tear up every time we talk about it. So hang on. Do we need music? Do we have sad music? I don't have a picture. I'm trying to find a good picture. Zombie says, I would have won if it weren't for you meddling kids. That's funny. He gives this family this battle racer, right? And so then I was like, hang on. They asked me, I think, to sign the side of it, which was amazing. And then I was like, who else do we need? We need Joe. We need, let's see, who else? I'm trying to remember who we all got. We walked around and we got everybody, whoever we could find, like the bigger YouTuber guys, obviously the big people, not me. But we got Joe. And I think we got, I'm pretty sure we got Stefan to sign it. I think we did. We broke up his video session for a second and he signed it for them. And then I think he signed their lanyards too. And we walked around and we did that. And then I saw that he had purple rain filament from Greengate on the racer. And I was like, come on. So we went over by Rich and I said, Rich, do you have any purple rain left? He just, you know, I kind of told him the story a little bit. And I said, listen, this thing's got purple rain on it. They need some of that filament. And he said, all I have is one roll of the virgin, like not recycled stuff, purple rain. And I was like, what do you think? And he's like, let's do it. So he gave them like a full roll of that. And it was, it was, it was so much fun. Because that is what these events are about. It's about the families coming. It's about hanging out.  And that's something that I'm pretty sure Atticus and family probably will never forget. And yeah, it's just, it was amazing. The whole day was awesome. And hopefully we made it good for you guys, because you guys deserve it. It was so much fun. I know you had a long drive home too. So. Right. And Tammy, I got your email. I'm working on getting everything sent. I just want to have it already in one shot. So hopefully this week. Also, I want to give a quick shout out to his brother and sister too. From Sarah gave me a little bit of an update, but I don't know like the whole story, but from what I understand, like his brother was the reason they all came out, I think, because he was the one who was interested in going to the event. And then his brother and sister stopped by and just hung out while I was messing with the drone and getting ready. And so I got just asking questions and stuff.  Like it wasn't just Atticus's control. Isn't it? Yeah. Can you get his, what do you, I don't know what you call, what's the word I'm looking for? He was good at controller. But it's not just him. Like his, his brothers and sisters are really smart too. So I don't know, Tammy, I don't know what kind of superjuice you're throwing in their brains, but it's working. Well, I know they, they hung out with you for a while asking a lot of questions about your camera gear, your drones, and I enjoyed talking to them. They were wonderful. I saw a picture of that where you just sitting there on your knees just chatting with them. It was great. Yeah. They made me a custom Benchy sticker. That's awesome. Nice. That's right. We got your, I'm pretty sure we got your signature on their racer as well.  That way you could keep the sign to side plates. But I mean, it was a 3D set. There was, there were so many stories. There were so many family stories like that where maybe kids came with dad and dad was just, they were drugged there because dad wanted a comment and ended up just falling in love with the stuff they saw there. You know, and oh my God, dad's cool now because all this cool stuff you got to see if it was R2D2 running around or, you know, it was so cool. And I mean, all of these events are amazing, but you guys, for a first year event, it was spot on. It was insane. I don't remember who asked. I don't know. I don't remember where the conversation was happening, but I saw somebody mention this and I totally agree. I think what made this year or this specific event so much different than the other MRFs that we've been, or the IRFs, I guess, that we've been to is the families. There were a lot more, not just kids, but families that were just all one unit that were walking around asking interesting questions, you know, actually being engaged and just, I don't know. There was something about constant, it was like, there was no shortage of feed of like, of wonderment, you know? Yeah, it was so cool. It was my turn to turn around. I think that, yeah. I don't know if you can hear the squeaking over here. My dad has a new laptop and it's got rubber feet and he slid it across his marble countertop and it was like, oh, okay. You said he got a new laptop. I was expecting it's being ran by like a hamster on like a rusty wheel. Yeah, it is. There's two hamsters on that rusty wheel running it. Okay. But no, what the cool thing was, I think what was a little bit different is that it was a first year event for one, and there's nothing like this on that side of the western side of the US, right? And I think I got a lot of those comments from people who came out, hey, we don't have anything like this, or the local local people were like, we didn't have anything going on. We wanted to come check this out. And it was really cool. So that was cool, too. Nothing against Murph or IRF because both of those are really cool events, completely different events.  IRF is amazing. And it's super structured and that is awesome, but it's at the college. So you kind of have to follow college rules, right? Yeah. But both of those are really cool. And I think they've been around for a little while. Whereas this one, there's just so many new people that had never even been to an event like this before. And they were like, oh, cool, we're going to come check it out. So local companies. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Filament stories. She says Zelda won the Sunday race. Yes. So that's the best part. The Sunday. The front bumper broke off so she couldn't drive forward. And you were about to say she was out because she couldn't move, but they were like, no, we can move backwards. So she started driving backwards instead. That's great. I think everybody who raced, thank you for being awesome sports too. Because by the end of both races, almost nobody can move. Yeah. Especially day two, right? Like day two of Sunday's event, everybody was pretty much done. Like no one could barely move. There was a couple cars. I know Nick, Paulie maker Nick's car was smoking.  Yeah. There's a trick to that. Print it. Print the frame in polycarbonate carbon flavor. Yeah. I want to print a whole racer in Woodville. So it just goes up in flames. That's what I want to do. We can we can add a little uh, and it's gasoline powered instead of can you imagine everybody's out there turning their controllers on and I'm over there pulling the try to get it started. That would be awesome. So Scott makes a good point, met people that have never been to an IRF and who also wanted to attend MRF now. Absolutely. There was people that drove across the country. There's one guy that drove 18 hours from West Virginia. We really didn't drive, but yeah, I mean, Tim, I used, I used PCCF. I used nuclear nylon. I use one second guys. Yeah, you can use Tim. You can use any filament you want. The difference was for this event, Paulie maker sponsored the filament if you were going to race at the event. That being said, I'm not sure they're going to do that again. They sponsored 49 or 48 battle racers. I talked to Nick. He said 48 and I think 19 showed up. So we've got a solution for that for next year. I think. Yeah. I mean, the thing is the deal was you build it and you have to show up if they sponsored the event, right? Yeah. And he's back. All right. He just got kicked out by the board of trustees. No, uh, the CEO of the company just parked like right outside the front door and walked in and like workout clothes. So I guess I don't know. I have no idea what's going on right now. You're supposed to go workout. I think that's what I've been. I've been talking with Nick and he's what we're talking about is it's going to be buy your filament, build the racer. And then when you show up, you get not just the value of the film, maybe more. There you go. That would be awesome. You get buy your three rolls. And then maybe you get four or five rolls or something or a voucher for, yeah, heirs. Yep. I like that. There it is. So something to incentivize and that way it's not, well, we built it. We didn't show up. We don't get it. I think that's a better way for Nick too. Yeah, I totally agree. People took advantage of it. But the other cool thing about, go ahead. Sorry. Scott brought something else up that I wanted to point out too. He said that not a single one of us stand a chance in a battle next year against the Anderson family. That got me thinking. So next year, I'm going to dress up as Agent Smith. I'm going to make a matrix themed death raster. And I will just walk up Mr. Anderson. And it'll be just a big battle between the two of us. That would be awesome. Jim can be the lady in the red dress. Maybe. We were talking about calling the battle the Atticus Cup. Yes. Oh, okay. The Atticus Cup. Territory there. The trophy can just be Attaboy's. And we're working on printed trophies for next year. I've got a few contacts that will print them. I might know a few guys who have 3D printers, actually. Who? I went to this event last weekend. I don't know if you've heard of it. One thing that I'm thinking about, I have to do, I might do another battle racer for Murph, I'm not sure. But I need to do a drag racer. I have to do it. I got to talk to Scott about that. Because I mean, this thing, the day event was so cool. And it was every bit of chaos. There's just left to mine after Scott decided to play Destruction Derby. On the way back, that was awesome. At the very last race, it was like Scott Fullon in the Justin. I got a couple of good shots of some of the carnage. The one that hit the tripod too that Sarah was standing at. Was that the white one? I think it was like the first couple races. I didn't build the drag racer or the battle racer to win. I just did it to have fun. I wasn't doing it to win. I won by having a massive event. Yeah. It was awesome. And the other thing I want to put out too, nice, the other thing I want to put out there as well is not only where they're amazing exhibitors, like people from all over brought some really cool stuff. The people that show up were awesome. We had vendors that were like super cool. Ellie had a super booth, which was amazing. But there was vendors that had never been to one of these yet. And they had never been to one of these yet because they didn't have a place to do it because everywhere else was too far away. And it was really cool to see like 3DQ.  Yeah. I mean like, I didn't even know that he was there. That 5-axis, I think it's 5-axis printer that was there. That was the first time I'd actually met the couple from Duet. Yeah. And obviously the first time we met the dude who made the 5-axis printer, right? And printed solid had a sweet display too. I don't know if you stopped to talk to them, but they started off with an empty table and they were giving spools to people who brought prints up. So they have this giant table full of cool prints, but they didn't bring a single one of them, which I thought was so cool. They sent in 660 pounds of filament. That's how much the palette weighed. So I know. Oh yeah, you would know. You know the guys who run the thing. What was cool about that is the deal was he's coming in with an empty table and a powerful filament.  And so you got a roll of filament just for showing up with for something to put on the table to display.  I'm wondering if you could walk in and like trade somebody at another table for the print that they're showing off and then bring that to David's table to get a to get a roll of filament and then that brings up bring that somewhere else to trade. I think there was a kid who showed up and I totally forgot what he started with, but he ended up with a printer and a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah, he traded for a M3D quad that actually my co-organizer Mike was selling. Yeah, that's funny. It was cool because then he was like, oh, it has this glass plate. And I saw that it was basically that it was an Ender 3 size, probably an Ender 3, I don't know. So I went and Tim, TH3D, shout out to you, man. He actually gave me a flex plate and a magnet to give to the kid. And he was just like, you're just going to give this to me. Here's the printed solid table. You know, I'm good with that. And I was it was super cool because that he kept trading for new stuff for a hot end and all this stuff. That's the printed solid table. And it's not just their material. It's every potential material and someone printed a Gatorade bottle. I wonder if that was printed in PETG. I wonder. There's Dustin. There we go. There's the Prusa table. Hey, I was there. Yeah, that's you. That's not, no, no. That's not you. No, no. There's a thousand pictures in this album. You're more handsome. Yeah. Yeah. You should do it. You should start with a Benchy, Big Jano, and see what you can trade up to. Ellie's printer phenomena. So this is awesome because the Lovelin reporter, Harold, came in on Friday. Oh, yeah. And we were in the event was in the local newspaper, and Ellie was on the main page. And there were people that showed up on Saturday and Sunday that said, we came because of this. That's awesome. How many copies? I need a copy of that. I've got a few copies. Can I talk? Shoot me a message and we'll talk. I'm trying to get a group or pack of them on order, but the newspaper guy has not responded. Did you expect it'll just, when you hear something hit your front door, it'll probably, that's it. I'm curious. I mean, I'm just impressed that you still have a newspaper. So there's that. What's a newspaper? Yeah. Did you just print out an article off BuzzFeed? Is that what just happened? Right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what it was. Yeah, this is great. I love that. Got more. Send me, send me. I've got like six of these, so. Nice. That was super cool. I think Jim remembers this about three o'clock on Saturday. I went around. Nice, big, flex plate, full of man. Everybody's fine. Yeah. I think you're in here. See my signature on there. I don't know where Jim put his, but I know he's in here somewhere. There he is. There it is. I see a lot of them. Yeah, that's awesome. I think she did. I just, I think she did. I say it's probably next to mine.  Oh, like silly putty. Then you have two like hard to read sets of signatures instead of run one readable one. Right. And then big Jano gave me his. Yeah. Printed or Murph logo. Jano, do you have any more of those? Because here's the thing. Here's the thing. I saw one of those sitting at LDO motors table and I thought it was theirs.  And they were like, Jano just gave it to me. And I was like, okay, I'll go talk to him. And he was gone. Look at this. Thank you. Josh asked if, oh, Josh asked if I needed anything. And I was like, no, because somebody stopped making coffee and he just walked in here with a full earn of coffee. Perfect. I can't turn the camera around. One of these things. This guy, I'll just, ah, no, it's burning hot. Yeah. I was thinking, I was thinking in earn of coffee, how much ashes are in there? Right. So I used to call them. I don't know why they're called it's a craft, right? And a company branded coffee. Question before I do anything. Tammy, if you're still in chat, I have a picture of me and me and Atticus. I think you just closed his browser. He's not in here at all. I have a picture of me and Atticus that I'd like to show, but my wife said I should get permission to actually show a picture. There's Sarah. So if you're still in chat, let me know. But I do want to show this. Wait, did you just say there's Sarah when Jim popped on board? Oh, no, she's in the chat. Yeah. So I'm going to share what the venue is going to kind of look like next year. Now I ignore all the squares. So if someone will share my screen. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Also, also, also zombie check your Twitter and so sorry, it's rotated. But we were in the Norse Hall this year. Audio. There was another 2000. So we're going to fill. We're going to do both halls next year and we'll put tables here for food. So we're going to have 36,000 square feet.  But after Saturday's mayhem permission granted. Nice. We decided. We agreed on it Saturday night. So here's the picture. I don't have it. Yeah, there you go. That's so awesome. Basically, he didn't know I was giving it to him. I literally handed to him like, let's take a picture, hold this. And then I handed him his mom the controller and something else. It was awesome. And then I said, well, hold on to that because it's yours. Nice. So smooth in overall presenting that. It was tricky. I didn't know if you'd figure it out. Larger make alone. Yes. Probably a whole area. The other hall has a wall we can put up. So we might use that. So here's the deal. Overall amazing event. Super fun. I think you guys did an amazing, you three, you did an amazing job putting it together. There was a cool survey afterwards. So if you went to fill the survey, I didn't get a survey. No, I did. Yeah. Oh, thanks for sharing that with me. Oh, listen here, peasant. Oh, I guess it's our stream now. Oh, okay.  Sorry. Oh, what is that? So I'm sorry, I can't hear you. Are you muted? Oh. Hey, there's kids here. No, I was itching. One of the things I forgot on my way here was my shaver. So I'm gonna have to go to the store and take care of this massive itch vest. My wife calls me. And Jim, thank you for being our emcee so much. It was perfect for it. Caleb, thank you for taking video, Sarah. Thank you for just being helpful and taking videos. So many photos. Great as a camera operator. I honestly don't know that I would have been able to do it without her. I would have, but it would have been super. I agree. You guys both Caleb, Sarah, you guys are awesome. It was awesome to have you guys there. And I definitely couldn't have done anything half, not even close to half to what we did without you guys there. So thank you. I know Saturday was a rough day for everything just because everything kept sneaking up and it was like bam, bam, bam, right? But but I think I don't want to sound I'm not trying to sound like I have an ego. I'm just like absolutely honestly as like a guy who does video literally day in a day out for my job. We got a lot of good stuff this week. Like this is we got some good footage. We got so much good footage that the the in between like transitions where Jim you where you're like explaining what we're about to show feel so small in comparison to the amount of footage that I want to include in the video because there's so much cool stuff. That's okay. That's okay. Yeah. No, it was fun. And I really do appreciate both you guys. You guys Justin and you guys amazing show. It was awesome to MC.  I came in with like 80% voice and I left with like 40% voice 30 things for next year. But water bottles for sponsors. Was it hard candy? I drank so much water and I had pockets full of cough drops and we're going to apply them next year. You know, I think it was weird because I just happened to get this random cold thing that that my family had for a couple weeks before that like the weekend before I was coming and I was like, well, we're doing it. I appreciate that. It was a lot of fun. And you know, we'll definitely would definitely love to do it again. Definitely have you guys back and Jim's wearing a staff shirt. I am. I know staff shirt at the end, which I should have given to him earlier. But one of these things is not like the other. I might have a spare Caleb lying around. No, I mean, I would have like to have one. Yeah, it really makes you want to go to all of them airs. It really does. And I wouldn't even started this in September if I hadn't gone to Murph and met Mike and then IRF and seen both shows because we didn't want to be either show. We wanted to be our own. Yeah, I'd rate me because I can't do it myself. Yes. Filament stories. Thank you so much. She says you did an excellent job of making all the announcements. Jim, the giveaways, I don't think people would have known about nearly to the same degree. And wow, there were a lot of things being given away. We'll see if we can find a picture. There was a lot of stuff being given away. To give Jim a little bit of extra credit to Sarah and I were with him the entire weekend. Like I don't other than Saturday night when we went to bed early, I don't think there was longer than like 10 or so minutes that we weren't with Jim. So I have the authority to say Jim was juggling so many things at once. I can't tell you how many times like somebody came up to talk to him. And then I was like, Hey, Jim, I need this piece of cam equipment from your bag. And then he was like, Okay, well, now this kid came up to talk to me. And then somebody else is like sign something. And then somebody else is like, When are you going to make this announcement? Oh, there's a giveaway happening in five minutes. And also there's somebody at the maker lounge like, I don't know how he did it. I don't know how he remembered to keep the microphone on him all weekend. I would have left it in 12 different places. Yeah. Yeah, luckily we had two microphones. I appreciate that. It was fun. I like to say as long as everybody's has fun, it doesn't matter. It was so cool. We met some really awesome people. Thank you. And there was a ton of giveaways. And then this guy, this guy came. Hello. Hey, who's hey, anyway. Yeah, I don't know who this guy is. So this was the Voron giveaway at three o'clock on Saturday. Oh, yeah. That was mobbed. It was piled in there. I was I was somewhere in that mix. And I think it goes on the left side or something. But I can tell you you had to be present to win and we drew a few tickets because there you are. There you are. There you are. There was a ton of people. It was absolutely packed. Yes. So we wanted to bring zombie hedgehog in and it was he actually Sarah, the whole time we went live on hot makes on Sunday after all the technical garbage we went through. Sarah had an iPad pro in her hands filming like this, right? The whole time. So get the audio working or the external cameras working. So eventually we just had screw it. We're like 20 minutes.  It's actually right here. I'm using it for a second monitor. So she was like walking with this thing the whole time, you know, and and that was awesome.  Yeah, he was watching comments and kind of following us to and well and also checking audio like that. I was not expecting that part to be as helpful as it was because I couldn't hear anything. Nobody else could hear anything. But he was there with headphones and watching the chat and I could say saying the audio working or glitched out. So I was able to hear it real time and let you know if it's good or not. More than helpful. I appreciate that. Yeah, it was it was cool. You had a really cool printer, which we got some good footage of. I can't wait to show that. And I think you Eiffel towered a grandma at one point. I did. I did. Okay. Hang on. Oh, jeez. Do I want to ask? No, there was this lady who was desperately trying to find him because she wanted to buy an Eiffel tower that he printed on that printer.  Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's actually chatting with the with the husband, I think the older couple and they're going on their first trip to Paris and they saw that print him like, Oh my God, this is absolutely amazing. So we're talking about that a bit talking about how I went there and I saw it and it was a good experience. Like that's kind of the whole thing about rep rat fest. As you never know who you're going to talk to. Yeah. Don't. So good. Yeah. Don't Google that. That reminds me that. Have you guys seen that video of that super wholesome video that that kid who like shows his grandfather something that he 3d printed and then grandfather's like, can I buy this from you? And he's like, no, it's like 0.02 cents in plastic. But you made this. And it was just, I don't know, that wholesome kind of like, don't understand the technology, but like, I think it's cool. It was awesome. I mean, there was a ton of people, but it was just awesome because they were like, where is it? And then Nick like goes this way to find him. And then like, I see Nick all the way over there. But actually he was just sitting two booths over trying to set up for his stream. It was right after ours.  And Nick's like, oh, yeah, across the arena. You know, we do have some hot makes we do. I just don't know what time it was. Hot makes a break. You're going to hang out for hot makes zombie. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I don't know who is around. But I think Nareese, I don't know who else has footage of this. But if you check out the Nareese's shorts, I think they're here. I think he did it in the short. At one point, I decided on Sunday to tell everybody that for the next five minutes, everybody run and give Joel telling a high five. Yeah, I did a short of that. People coming. Oh, yeah. On the hot makes account. Yeah. So it was just funny because I was he didn't know I was going to do it. And I was just like, find him and give him a high five. And we all like kind of went. You did that to Ellie, too. Oh, no. Yeah, Ellie was about to do her her talk in the maker lounge. We got it live on hot makes. Yeah. And he did an announcement where he was like, he was like, oh, everybody go to the maker lounge. Ellie has an amazing speech prepared for you. And she's like, I don't have anything. So ironically, when he was speaking through the microphone, that sounded better than just speaking into the microphone. So like speaking through the speakerphone, that sounded better. Oh, yeah. Also, there was a huge lag too, because we walked up to the Voron booth and how do you pronounce this? Is it Vishal or Vishal? Or sorry, not Voron. Sliceworks. Yeah, Vishal. Yeah, Vishal. Yeah. He was, he had to stream up and I was like, oh, let's let's point the camera at it and see like how long the lag is. And he was looking at something that was like 45 or 14 minutes before that. I was like, all right, we're not standing here. That's awesome. All right. Yeah. Next year is going to be huge to get that many people. It would be huge. That's anything we couldn't imagine when we started this. We would have been happy at 1300. Oh, it's I can't wait to go next year. Oh my gosh. It's going to be literally biggest score for that. But I think the other, I think Murph is going to be awesome this year because a lot of people didn't know about that either. And I think that'll kind of roll and right roll into Murph as well.  So I'm going to switch everything over to hot makes and let's do it. Rolling. All right, let's see how this works. Did the whole thing play for you guys? Yeah, dude. Oh, okay. Mine, mine froze at three seconds in and I'm just sitting here going, guys, is it, is it playing? That's awesome. Playing. This first one is graphite hand painted the tattoo of juice's head gonna something it up because we have kids in the stream. There you go. Hand painted. This print for one, by the way, is awesome. Who is that? Who's juice? Graffiti. Oh, yes, Son's of Anacry. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. That's insane. I never watched it. I mean, his painting is just so good.   It's kind of scary. Especially when he's looking up at you like this. I wish I was like staring into his eyes and see if he'd follow me. See what else we got. I wish I was staring into his eyes. Yeah, well, you know what I mean. All right, Zach Freeman. Yes. So Zach, it was super cool to meet you in person. Zach Freeman was super cool to hang out with. We did some dinner on Sunday and we played a mad game, or no, it was Saturday. Yeah, bowling Saturday, whatever it was. I don't think this was Friday. We did bowling Saturday.  It was awesome. I know Sombie was there for a bit. I think he actually sat in for me and I was like, I got to get up for a while.  Yeah, that was, that was. But no, he says, riddle me this. What does this extraction tile do? Someone tagged us. I mean, who knows until you play it, which is super cool. Did you see his game while you were there, either Caleb or any of you? I got to play with him. I saw him, but I didn't get to play it. I think I won. Yeah, I won. That was awesome. Well, his game is fun.  If you have not seen what I'm talking about, go find Zach Friedman's YouTube channel and look up, I think it was, it's not called extraction. I don't, it might be now. I thought it was Bridgefinity 2.0, maybe? Yeah, it shows up as a headstraction over on that. Yeah, I think it does now or something because it was his April Fool's video, but check that out. It's super funny. If you want to find more information on it, on his Discord, Boydster Labs, he has a whole channel just dedicated to it. Yeah, Boydster, his writing some of the best ever, by the way. All right, let's keep rolling here. Steven, the lightspeed, so he actually brought this to, whoa, whoa. What's going on? That's loud. He was having some technical issues. It was very loud in my ears. Okay, so last week, no, two weeks ago, he came out with that, with the revolver can cooler thingamajigger and on the stream, we were like, dude, an engine. I want to see this with an engine, whatever. And I think he was already working on it, but I like to take credit because, you know, why not? I said, like, you know, whether pistons are the cans and they come up when you turn it, he did it and he brought it to Remurf and it was super cool to see in person. Yeah, that's so cool. So there you go, holds four cups of ice and salt. I want to hook it up to like an actual motor. They're not like an actual like gas motor, but like an actual, I want to power it so that all of my pop cans just explode every time I open. That's your way to make like a pop can for lack of better terms bomb. So you just like shake them until they explode and you just leave it in somebody's house. No, yeah, we're not. We can. I've applied, but yes, it would, well, I wonder if it would sound like an actual. I love it. I'm going to print it as soon as I'm back. I'm doing it. It just seems like an awesome print. All right. Nice work, Steven. The mad maker. So I'm not looking out here. This is the flondalorian. Oh my God. Yeah. It looks like dinner. Oh my God. Oh my God. Well, it's the flondalorian. Right. He jiggles. Yeah. Watch. He jiggly. He said, I love this. This is adorable. Why do I think this is cute? Because it's like a bobble head.  I know. Oh, that's straight up. I think I was the only person in Spanish class to actually enjoy the flon.  I was like, oh, yeah, work for me. So you scroll down. There's one that's a Han Solo in carbonite. Oh, yeah. Is it like, is there a flon printer or something? It's a mold. It looks like it's a mold. Scroll down further. There's more? Somewhere down there. There's a somewhere in the... Well, on mine, the next post down is a video of the mold. So there you go. Hey, Bloma. I really want to put it. Is it weird that I want to put a Han Solo action figure in the carbonite one so that you like slowly reveal him as you eat it? Look at it. That sounds like some teeth damage. I love it. This, the Mad Maker, this is awesome. This is awesome. Well done. This is cool. All right. Oh, this is the fix to hang on. All right, next. Here we go. This was somebody who came and hooked us up with a cable we needed to get the stream going or no, to get Caleb's gimbal working. Yeah. Well, no, it was actually more for yeah, it was more for Sarah than for me. Either way, it's the screen. Yeah, the external monitor. I didn't have it. I mean, he came through on Twitter. I just made a post from a hot makes account where I was like, Hey, we got a cable emergency. Does anybody have this specific cable? And he was like, I'll be there in an hour. Yeah. So another cool thing about the community, Nick, I was at, we were at the polymaker. We had like a super booth. We were within with polymaker and 3D belt kits or 3D. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. So we were all in there, right? And he did this and I was like, hang on, let me see if I could give us some filament. I talked to Nick. Nick pulls out this filament here and he signs it, right? Which is like amazing because the kid asked him to but it is a brand new filament. Zombie might know more about this than I do because I didn't have a lot of time to talk to Nick about it, but it's a better white for the maker community. It's a newer white. This isn't even released yet. And he's like, yeah, I got this one. You can have this one. It's not even released yet. I was like, that's phenomenal, man. I think this is part of my plan of making all the colors, kind of what I want because I'm kind of picky about colors and I always make my suggestions. So this is a more blue white. So a typical white is very warm for filament just because of the resin. So this is a more cool white. Wait, Nick told him apparently the makers, people in the community didn't think our white was white enough. So we need to make a whiter white or something. It was awesome. It was such, it was hilarious. But nice work. Thank you for the cable. I appreciate Dennis Moll, his comment on that picture of the box, which was never watched that box. Yeah, never watched that box. Okay, yeah. And then why did I have that open twice? All right. Here's another thing. This is pretty cool that at the 3D printing, working on something a bit different from badges, wanting to do something more complex, super happy with the result. Check this out. What's going on here because these are not in the dock. You've shown two so far that you didn't put in the dock. Nope, I promised because I opened them all from the dock. Well, okay. All right. This is, I love this idea, a solid background and then use actual colors to make the silhouette on top of the solid background. Super cool idea. That is so cool. We're going to have, we're going to have him on the show here soon. We'll talk about guests coming up at the end of the show. Well, we're going to have to check this out because it looks like he has a lot of cool stuff. Yeah, this is, we showed off that giant collection of nerd logos and badges I think on a couple shows ago. This was him. Yeah. Make some cool stuff, dude. Yeah. All right. Lama. He actually tagged us in this World's Fastest Trash Can video. I watched this this past weekend before we came out. Actually, I watched this video. This is nuts. If you want a fun video to watch, all I can say, let's see what I can actually live a play here. This is Colin. There you go. That's the intro. Hang on. I'm going to make this bigger. Yeah. I'll make, this is, let me look here. I don't know. Oh, I've seen this guy before. Chris Rollins. Yeah. But anyways, he decided he was, he was going to make a trash can, a green trash can. Rollin into 2023, like. Yeah. The fastest trash can on earth. And he went out and raced it. And then he crashed it. So we'll just say it's sketchy. It's sketchy at best. Let's see. Oh my god. At least he has a helmet. Dang. He actually, this is the second run. He let the top down. He had that bungee down the first run. So yeah. The helmet smells terrible because it was on the trash can when he found it. Funny. But it's such, it's not, don't do this at home because it's not great when you see the crash and all that stuff. But this, this is my, this is the best part. Like at the end of it, he's like, yeah, it's still a trash can. Oh no. Okay. That's fair. I would have sat in it and waited for the trash truck to come up. And then just drove away like one foot at a time as it kept trying to catch you. Like, I want RC trash can where I can just say, go to the curb and then take the trash. Yes. Dude, I want to do that for a costume tub. I've been wanting to do that for the longest time. Use the same electronics as like an R2-D2, but with four, you know, and then instead of carrying your costume tubs through the comic cons, you just drive it to the room. Right. That would be awesome, by the way. Yeah. Cookie Cat. This is local maker Michigan that tagged us. They're doing something really cool stuff with their cookie cutter design software. There was a chocolate one at the event. Yes. They're doing rounded edges on the tubs and beveled cutting edge, which is pretty cool. What is going on, dude? He's getting handsy with the cookie cat. He just got caught. He just got caught. He has one of those programs on his computer. His mouse moves around so people don't know he's not working at home. So, no, it's super cool. If you have not checked this out, go to cookiecat.com. Why is, why do I have four mice? Six mice. No, you only have one mice. The other three are blind. Their mouse. Ah. So, I don't know how far we're going. Anyways, check this out. If you want to make some sweet cookie cutters, though, check out their software. You could pretty much do whatever you want. It's pretty cool. And by the way, awesome people and awesome filament. Yeah. I just, we were talking to them at the show and they said that they had a couple new colors that were coming out that they were showing off the show that weren't available yet. I kind of want to see if we can get them back on the show. They said that they wanted to come back on at some point, but I think it'd be cool to get on. Zombie is showing off a print from, yeah, it's a rainbow, but it's not very rainbow-y because it's as small as it is. There we go. It's more upstairs, but it's just red and orange. Their colors are really nice. Yeah, they are. They're like the more pastel stuff that you don't find. Like they're pastel stuff. Super cool. Yeah, so good. Yeah. That's awesome. I think I have Sunset and Sunrise. I do too. Sunrise loves the purple and blue. That should be Sunset, right? Yeah. We went home with a half spool of their Mermaid. Yeah, I've got a couple of the Mermaid fast chains that they gave me back here. So here's the next one. I'm running low on time, so I got to get flying, but more progress on the N1 from Grafite. Check this out. Let's see if I can hit both. What's going on here? Oh, hello. Okay. Hang on. It's so good. That's insane. The detail. I am. What is that printed on? Is that resin or FDM? I don't know. I bet there's info on this tip, Doc. The N1 is one of my all-time favorite Star Wars ships designs, and I cannot, I can never get enough of that thing. So I'm glad they brought it back into the show. Yes. Hot takes. That's a hot take. Yeah, that's probably why I didn't get this tag. Oh. That's funny. Well, hang on. Hang on. That's not too far off. We'll talk about that at the end of the show. We've got something cool coming up. Look at his response. Oh, man. Fantastic. I love it. All right. Grafite, you're awesome. All right. Let's see. Kaz, Brick. So I thought I had the sizing right for a helmet, but it won't fit our daughter. So it's still the win. Is it still a win when it filter build a bear? Yes, it is. I love it. That's great. Also, I would go super near here for a second. So that helmet design is the more simplified, like, softer helmet design that the kid wore. It's like a kid's helmet that was in the show. So I think it's cool that he was printing that for his daughter instead of like a scaled-down regular helmet, you know? Right. Good attention to in-universe details, sir. Chris Travis, something for the next show. Attach some servos, radio control, maybe? And he hit us a bunch. But this is phenomenal. This takes like thumb wrestling to a new... Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yep. We can have a little table, Swollies. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Swollies are these things battling on a table. Hear me out. All ears. Hear me out. Next Rocky Mountain Reprat Festival, we print these at like 1500 scale and we stand there and hold them. Yes. I say we scale this bad boy up to like 500%. Really cold? Let's go see. Adding it to the window. Some Colts 3D. Great boxing game. It's Colts number 1191001. I have it on the thing. I'll work on it. Draw a drop. Yeah. It's all good. Yeah. I know someone that can help. I have a mermaid. Hi, buddy. I'm almost done, guys. Sorry. I think they're waiting for me. I have my in-years in, so I can't hear anything here, but I heard something. Somehow I heard my wife say you're 15 minutes behind schedule. Oh, and this is different. Now she's standing right here. You want to say hi? Here. You don't want to say, come on. Come say hi, wifey. They don't even believe you exist. Where do you think the kid came from? You call it adoption cameras? Science. You think they would have let Jim adopt the kid by himself? Yeah, this is true. They would. I'm the best dad ever, damn it.  You really are. Here's the deal. This thing blew my mind. Be prepared to be blown away. Hang on. Oh, I can't stop it. Watch this. What are we looking at? What is this? Wait, what? What? Did you see that? Do it again. It's a transfer rule. Watch. That's what it looks like normally. Oh my god. How? And it must be carved or something, so it pops out like that. And smooth as heck. Look at this. That is insane. I think so. The bark texture is helping hide those, but that is still some really tight tolerances. Wow. This just blows me away, right? Okay. There's no way that's laser cut either, because it's not burnt to hell. No. Boom. Look at that. Wow. It looks like just another piece of wood you throw in your fireplace, and then you flip it or flick it, and all of a sudden you've got a cityscape in there. I like that. I think Ayer's meant that he has a scroll saw, but I like the idea that he is the scroll saw. I am the scroll saw now. Look at me. Look at me. I'm not going to lie. I could never do this if it needs a scroll saw. If there was a machine, I'm in, but if it's me trying to cut this by hand, that ain't ever happening in my life. Oh, over the plate. Look at that one. I guess you can see the back. Look at the cuts here. That makes sense. Let's see a pretty printed version now. That'd be fun. Oh my god. Okay. I have a theory. That's got to be a scroll saw. I have a theory as to how this is made.  It's from behind. And there's a bunch of cut marks in the back, so I almost wonder if it's cut in a million different pieces and then reassembled on that bottom plate. That might be. Otherwise, like you said, you could take a scroll saw or a saw and just come in and then come out this side. And then this might be for the... To keep it all together. Then maybe like shave the bottom. So it's then when you glue the bottom, it doesn't attach itself to certain pieces. I don't know. We need Caleb. We need this guy on the show. Yeah, they got to have that. Let's see if we can, let's see if we can figure that out. I'll see if I can figure that out. Yeah. Does artwork, I don't know, transformable miniature houses. This, this is just crazy. I don't know. Maybe he shows a process. Hang on. Hang on. Or maybe he doesn't. No, so this isn't that account. This is one of those accounts that point. Credit Zellmel Nugong on Dujian. Well, guess not. So there's that. But thank you, Tom Mama, for always giving us something awesome to, to check out. And I've got the biggest fail of the week. A very expensive. Oh yeah, yeah. Hang on. You can just pull mine. I have it up. Okay. Oh, hang on.  There it is. Does anyone see anything wrong with this? What's going on here?  It's also, it's not straight up and down in the thing. Yep. Halfway through a print. Not even halfway. Two layers in. One of the screws that holds the hot block to the cold fell out. Is that filament on the left that's oozed out? Yeah. Well, it didn't even ooze out. That was coming out of the extruder. And I found it. I'm glad I caught it because it destroyed my bed plate. So slate. Scratch it up. Oh, that thing's toast. I'm not like all the four pins that hold it. That's your Voron, right? That's my Voron. She does exist. I promise. Hello. Hello. What just happened? Why didn't you go? There it is. Teller thanks for letting Jim come to Colorado. He said thanks for letting me come to Colorado. It was amazing.  They're here to tell you something. I don't know. I missed it. I missed what Caleb said. A.I. wife. There we go. A.I. wife. Yes. Don't kiss me. She is. I don't know what's happening. I don't even know where my child went. So there's that. So you went outside and you're making. That's all right. If you lose them, you'll make another one. Yeah, but it's going to be amazing next year. Are you leaving? No, she said goodbye. I do have to get going. Apparently we're making dinner right now. Okay. All right. We're just making him dinner. Well, next year we'll definitely have the guys out again. You don't get dinner. It's going to be bigger, better, more fun. And we got some really cool things in the pipeline that were really excited for some new stuff, hopefully. And of course the drag races should be back. If I was that good at program.  Almost everybody I've talked to since I've come back home has been thinking it was the coolest thing ever. So I think I might just see if I could get through it. It's funny if you don't 3D print, honestly. Seeing all the cool things. I have friends that are like, I don't have to see this event. So real quick, I don't have a lot of time. I do have to get going. But real fast, we'll start with Justin, favorite thing you saw at Remurf? Oh, man. What? Realistically, at least the people. Just people, the amount of people. Honestly, the favorite thing was I had to go outside about 10.30 on Saturday. And I didn't realize how full the parking lot was. And I just broke down. I turned around and looked at the parking lot. It was just packed. And that was my favorite thing. Like just an absolutely packed parking lot. Not even two hours. That's what made it. Did that just kind of make it, did that just kind of like make it hit home? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that we pulled so many people. It sunk in, right? Yeah. And you guys did an awesome, you guys never done anything like this before. So kudos to you. Never an event before. And to be fair, much in the fashion of RepRap built on other events that have gone before you, that you've asked advice with and all that stuff. So it was really cool. Interation. Interation. Yeah. Yeah. We got the right people. You know, I talked to John with Murph before we went too far. I even emailed Adrian Boyer for, even though it's open source, permission. He's like, I grant it, but you don't need it. Yeah. I'm like, it's good. And I bet you Adam Savage will come out next year. That'd be insane. That'd be awesome. That'd be cool. All right. Zombie, your favorite thing. The favorite thing. Definitely the the Cocoa Press Printer. It was really cool seeing the person. I got my shipwreck of a Benchy. Yes. I wanted a chocolate Benchy so bad. Yeah. You didn't come out and play cards against Manity or you might have had one. Benches. I was sleepy. So I had, Ellie had the crew out and they had a few left. And I was very lucky to be sitting in the right place at the right time. I got one. But I don't know if Chris is watching right now, but Chris Greets flew in all the way from Belgium. Yeah. I reckon I had a great weekend. Also brought us chocolates from Belgium again. Those were really good. This person in the hotel handing chocolates out. Yes. A little interesting, but it was good. So it was super cool that he did that. So when I got my chocolate Benchy, he's like, wow, that's really cool. And I only found it fitting that I gave it to him because he came all the way from Belgium. He brought the chocolates for everybody. And I was seeing the one chocolate Benchy home. You deserve this. I hope it made it, Chris. Tell me it made it. Even if it's a billion pieces, tell me it made it. It's not melted. So the ironic part is I've heard that American chocolate stinks compared to European chocolate. It's just terrible. So you traded him a terrible. I don't know. This one was special because it tastes different. It was printed. And it was cool. And it was turned sideways. You know, in the packaging that Ellie had, right? Nice. In the packaging that Ellie had, she had like it looked like a kind of waves or whatever. And the Benchy is supposed to sit in that area, right? That's cut out for it. So cool. Somehow the one she gave me, it was turned sideways in there. Like outside of that area, sideways. And I was like, kind of messing with it. And he's like, don't break it. And I was like, you know what? This actually should go home with Chris. And I thought it was like full circle, right? Yeah. So that was really cool. So I ate the top of mine. It was a little bit smoky tasting. Smoky. Smokestaff. I want to give one last shout out to Tammy and Atticus. It was great that you guys came so well. And I'll be in touch. Thank you. So Caleb, favorite thing? Besides me, of course. Yeah, I already made that joke. It's so hard to pick something, dude. I think Caleb's favorite thing was being away from home. Yeah, there is that. There's an event is getting away from all of it. That's what we were talking about before we went. The event was already taken care of. We would have gone to this event with or without the tornado happening. So we got to go there for the weekend and pretend nothing was wrong for a few days. It was, but so I think my favorite part of the whole event was just getting to see so many people that we only ever really see online. Like getting hugs. I know it sounds weird because I don't really like people touching me, but just getting to see everybody in person was me. And we've met so many new people, too. We got a lot of cool guests coming up over the next few. We do. We're going to get to see you in another year. Two minutes. Yeah, so. What was your favorite? Oh man, there were so many cool things. And to be 100% fair, I didn't see them all. I was just so busy. And as Caleb said, I was kind of like here, there, over here, over here, over there. But man, there was really cool stuff there. One of the coolest, one of the cool things we'll see in that like huge, Chris Neary's brought that huge sword that like flipped out like 10 feet or whatever it was. That was cool. The R2-D2, that was there. Oh yeah, that was awesome. That was super cool. And Jim, I don't know if you realized it. The bell for Foran was super cool. That R2 was printed with Michael Baddley's files that we've had on the show. He was trying to get, he's like, you got to join this. You got to get one printed. And I was like, dude, we know him. So did you get your, Caleb, did you get your tattoo yet? Oh, I got to email them back because I haven't heard back from them yet. Oh, so we'll save that. I'm going to make it happen. We're going to, I want it, I want it to happen. If you were there, you knew. So I'll send them this clip right here. My overall favorite, oh man. There's got to be some. There was so much. One of the, like, I love, I love the Death Racer races. The crashes that the dragsters had, like, you see some of the dragsters, they're fast if they, if they catch, if they actually hook up. That was really cool. I'm trying to figure it out. Yeah, there you go. There you go.  I know. Accident Artist. Got to shoot. There was this Snoopy racer, but I think, like, man, I can't. There's a crash item. Here's one crashes. Ready? Just parts. And wait, wait for it. Upside down. Oh no. I love that. That was the upside down. He won. This is how to text him. Hold on. Okay. Okay. Let me show you down here. Look at that. Just like, hold on. Oh yeah. Yeah. He won. Because of the people at the finish line taking their slow mo video. That's why he won. I think that was super cool to see. I kept thinking of that scene from Futurama, where the old man is like, you changed the outcome by measuring it. Here's one more video. Let's see. Last video, I know Jim's got to go. And Oh, there's Sarah's legs. Where it gets hit. Look at that. Look at that spin out. Oh, I got, oh, we got more than one angle. This is where the yellow one flips around. We got so many good things. I got a short. So I held the DSLR with my phone next to it. So I got a short on the HotMakes Instagram, while also getting a recording on the DSLR. And now we have a third camera angle. Well, the other cool thing was Caleb getting talked to by law enforcement for flying his drone in the restricted area. Wait, did you? Which we had permission and it was okay, by the way. I even had it. It was funny because that's the first time I've ever been talked like that's the first time I've ever had an officer actually come up to me like, hey, you got permission to fly here. So I'm glad that I got permission. Yeah, actually get official permission from the airport. All right. So here's the thing. We don't have time for this story. We can talk offline. Yes, we'll put it this way. He filed for that permission. He was allowed to fly. He flew and law enforcement stopped him and he was able to get out like, say, hey, this is what I have. Here's my license. I showed him what I needed to show him and he was like, okay, you're good. Not only that, but he came in and talked to us the next day for like 30 minutes. He was a nice, coolest guy. He was very, very nice. His name is Rafael. Yeah, I've had extended conversations with him. All right, I got it. Jim's got a jet. One hot make, sir. I'm building a chair. Oh, it's broken. It looked like, is that for tripod? Hey, it's got a new legs. It's a tripod. Yeah, it's a tripod model. This will be a project coming up. It's a lot of fun. All right, I don't have a chair anymore. I told Jess. The next few weeks, man, I'm talking like the next few weeks, we got some amazing stuff coming up. Next week, we have a smelly cat creations. You got to check out smelly cat super cool stuff, lasers. Got to be named TV. Yeah. Right after that, we have, what is it, FR3D? Yeah, 3D printing. We just saw, right? Yep. The 3D printing. Then that's the 15th, May 22nd. Filament stories, May 29th, we have something very special. You just cut out. May 22nd is filament stories. Filament stories, sorry if I cut out there. May 29th, something super special with Sam Prentiss and the creator of Pancake Bot, Miguel. Yeah, we got something fun coming up. We got a Pancake show coming up. It'll be hotcakes for sure. June 5th, we have Alpha to Zeta Industries. Amazing. We met them at Reverb. June 12th, we have someone cool coming not to be determined yet. We haven't announced it. Then we got somebody in the works. Studley Avocado. He's a very beefy avocado with the pit. I just want to throw it out there. So his name is Gus. He's the guy who, at the show, he had the orange That's my buddy, Gus. Yep, he's awesome. He'll be on. And then June 26th, RetroMaker also was at Murph and had some really cool stuff. That'll be Monday right after Murph, just a heads up. Yeah, oh god. Oh, wow. We may have to mess with that. We probably should look at the times. I didn't look at that. I didn't think about that much. We'll work it out. Amazing lineup coming up right here on Hot Makes. I have to get flying. But Justin, thank you guys so much for an amazing event. Thank you for putting it on. Thank you for organizing it and pulling it off. And thank you everybody out there who came, volunteered, helped, just showed up like any of that stuff. Zombie Hedgehog. I learned your real name this past weekend. I never knew it and I won't reveal it today. But it's awesome. I feel so bad. It's not to your mind. You have a name. I felt really mad because everybody was calling him Zombie, but he introduced himself to me as Austin. Nick still calls me Zombie. Like the whole weekend, I was like, hey Austin, and Jim was like Zombie. And I was like, oh yeah, sorry. And I thought maybe I wasn't supposed to use it. Yeah, but thank you for all of your help. Thank you for being a big part of the booth as well. You did some amazing stuff and some awesome streams there as well. Caleb and Sarah, if you're there, thank you. Thank you guys so much for all of your help. We appreciate that. Check out Maker Deck. Check out the Zee and Sad podcast, right? Oh yeah, that's in a couple hours. Yeah. You guys are doing the stream on the night? Yeah. That's going to be on my platform on Twitch. Twitch.tv. Zombie Hedgehog. Earlier in the chat, you guys said you were talking about something specific tonight. Oh, we're doing CAD. I like going over all the CAD work and stuff that you CAD with 3D printing. That's going to be awesome. Plus going over Rocky Mountain again. So I'll be gone. I'll be around if you want me. Awesome. There you go. I'll be always around until I lose weight. Again, again, going everybody. Have a great night. We'll see everybody next week. I'll still be in Arizona, but I'll find a different art studio maybe. You never know. I'm going to hook up with some people down here and it's going to be cool to see their stuff. Go to the one in Colorado. I want an instrument there. It'll be bigger next week. Yeah. That would be cool. All right, everybody. Have a great night. We'll see you later. I got to get flying. Bye. Bye. Bye. Have a great month. I'm sorry we doxed you on the stream. It's public. It's public. Seriously, who even gave him a link anyway? We don't even know who this guy is. Seriously? Who sent him an invite? Oh, we're still live?


week is the fifth week in recruit training. This is where recruits build on their small unit leadership and help each other out. So during team week, recruits have less anxiety and they're more motivated to train. Week one, they don't understand what recruit training really is. They still have that civilian mentality and they're actually transitioning to be recruits. But during team week, a week five, they build on their small unit leadership and they work as a team to get daily tasks done with less supervision from drill instructor. Some of the jobs we were given, some were very important, some were very, you know, medial. Something as simple as sweeping the sidewalk on the recruit highway. But it all made a difference and getting assigned those tasks and getting those tasks done was really the main priority when it came to team week. And that's something this recruit really enjoyed. Their confidence is building pretty high. At this point, the batoon is working as a team and they're actually getting things done a lot quicker with less supervision. For a few weeks and even myself included, you get the hang of it. You anticipate the training. You know what happens. You know that you're going to PT and you know that how the schedule works and you get the hang of it. It gets easier. Recruits will participate in various PT events. One of the main PT events that the recruits will do is log drills. Log drills is imperative in recruit training as it exemplifies the skill of teamwork. Also in team week, the recruits will participate in their first uniform fitting. This is to get a baseline of the recruits' body style.  At the end of team week, the recruits will participate in a 5K hike. The purpose of the 5K hike is to indoctrinate the recruits in the style of Marine Corps hiking and also instill confidence within the recruits for the long distances of hikes at Camp Elton. This recruit is looking forward to a change of scenery or even just the feel of how up north is going to be compared to how it is down here and some of those things that we're getting ready to do are going to be a little more fun as we've been told and I'm anticipating the change will be good. In the Marine Corps, we train like we fight. Therefore, the Marines put an emphasis on hiking to prepare each and every single Marine for the possibilities of combat.


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That tastes like God's will. All right, all right, all right. Ooh! That's a hot mug, guys! Hey guys, this is a movie that you may not know about, but I'm reviewing Frailty, a pretty good horror-thriller film that came out in 2001. It was directed by the late Bill Paxton, it had Matthew McConaughey and Bill Paxton in it, and it introduced a young Matt O'Leary. This film I actually rented out on a whim when video rental stores existed. I rented it about nine years ago off for Halloween, and this movie has stuck with me ever since. This is actually the first time I've watched it since then, and admittedly some things have changed. Admittedly, this movie does not have the same kind of as it does on a first viewing, which most thriller horror movies do, but it still has some pretty good qualities to it, some great performances, and some pretty decent writing. The movie starts with Matthew McConaughey coming into the FBI building, confessing to Powers Booth, an FBI agent, about his father and his family's horrible past with killing people as the God's hands killer. Now this movie admittedly has some twists and turns in it that kept me guessing throughout the entire film, and admittedly rewatching it again, I actually couldn't remember a few of them, so it was cool to see it happen again. But what really drives this movie is the morality compass that this film has. When your father gets a vision from an angel about demons that he's going to have to kill, who turn out to be real people, how would you feel if you were a young kid? Especially when your younger brother is more accepting of those ideals and of what his father is doing. We follow Matt O'Leary's character as he's trying to fight with his family, as well as the morality of whether this is right or wrong. And that was what the writer of this film had in mind when he was creating this script, the frailty of faith, the frailty of family, the frailty of morality. Those aspects constantly come back into play throughout this movie. And as I said earlier, this film was directed by Bill Paxton, who actually only ever directed two major movies, this one being one and the other one being the greatest game, which I really like. I think that's a great movie too. This movie does have some basic qualities to it. The camera work is not exactly the most woo. It doesn't have a lot of very intricate shots. There's some decent fade editing here and there, but admittedly it does get to be a lot. The editing, I kind of going back and forth on being good and bad. Throughout the most movie, there's a lot of good pacing in it. There's a lot of good edits back and forth between the past and the present. However, the end, I think it goes back and forth too many times. Instead of trying to give you all this information, boom, boom, boom, boom, at once, all in one trifecta, they're kind of like, and admittedly when I watched it the first time, that's exactly how it felt.  So yes, on second viewings, this movie is not as great as I thought it was when I watched it the first time, but it's still a very good movie. And admittedly, if you watch it for the first time, haven't never seen it before, you will be very surprised. Stephen King and James Cameron both very much like this movie. This was actually Stephen King's favorite horror movie of the year. And then what's funny enough too, is you could see a story like this being written by Stephen King. Less King-y dark, but more King-y morality, I guess you would say. I should also mention this is actually the first movie that convinced me that Matthew McConaughey was a good actor. Up until then, I'd always seen him in his wisdom, these surfer movies and whatnot, but this movie proved to me that he could act. And he was running returned back to serious acting with roles like the Lincoln lawyer, entry detective, that I saw the reemergence of that actor and that class of acting. In the end, I really do enjoy frailty. I would definitely suggest watching this for Halloween. And I'm going to give frailty a six out of seven. This is one of my favorite horror thriller movies of the early 2000s and it is stuck with me for the time. Admittedly, like I said, some things have not aged the best, but considering it as a first time viewing, it is an exceptionally good movie, got good pacing, good buildup and a payoff that somehow works despite the fact that it shouldn't. Anyways, guys, hope you enjoyed this review. If you did leave a like and if you're interested in more, maybe subscribe. Anyways, have a happy Halloween. I'll see you guys next time. 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I've recently come to the conclusion that, at least for me, Linux isn't as fun as what it was 15 years ago when I first discovered Linux as far as me switching to Linux full time on the desktop and part of that of course is natural because when something's new, because I was a new user around 2008, when you're a new user, obviously everything's fresh and exciting. It's a new frontier and obviously you're just completely enamored with this new thing that you're trying out where now Linux is kind of old hat to me, right? I've seen it all and maybe that's part of the problem but I don't really think that is part of the problem because sometimes I do check out new Linux distributions that are quite unique that do impress me but they're very few and far between and I think a lot of the problem with Linux in my case not being as fun as it was 15 years ago is it's a systemic problem. It's a really broad based problem that really affects the entire open source and free software ecosystem and part of this is a lot of our free and open source software that we depend on that we build our GNU slash Linux distributions upon a lot of these programs are now becoming so big and complicated that they become less user friendly they become harder to customize they become in many ways less flexible and because of that it is not the ultimate hackers paradise that it was 15 years ago I just think it's lost some of that luster. Some good examples of how Linux was back in 2008 as far as being flexible and customizable and you could easily hack on things all these desktop environments and window managers you had ultimate theming options is you know around 2008 or so when I first got into Linux it was the GNOME 2 desktop those days with the GTK 2 toolkit and you had literally hundreds of GTK themes available to you on Linux and every color scheme you had some really crazy GTK themes if you go back and look at some of the old screenshots of Linux 15 years ago especially old GTK based desktops 15 years ago they were absolutely gorgeous they were far better than what we have now in my opinion and part of this is because that GTK 2 toolkit was the last time GTK was really simple and easy to use that anybody you me anybody watching this video right now could easily make a GTK theme just theme it with whatever color scheme you want and you could put it out there for the world to use and with GTK 3 and GNOME 3 that all went away GTK 3 became such a complicated mess that pretty much everyone that was theming for GTK 2 most of them just didn't even try to theme for GTK 3 it was it was too much of a mess it was too complicated it was too hard to create a theme and then if you went to the triple to create a theme the next version of GTK and the next version of GNOME would break your theme to where you'd have to start all over and do the work all over again and it's just a nightmare it's a headache and of course now we have GTK 4 pretty soon we're gonna have GTK 5 and it's just becoming more and more complicated and more complex and really a lot of this you know the GNOME desktop environment the GNOME developers and GTK they really just destroyed what was a beautiful thing with desktop Linux and that was the the fact that anyone could theme their Linux desktop to just amazing potentials I also remember the crazy desktop effects we had back then with the spinning cube and being able to draw fire on the screen or to create rain puddles that are dropping on your desktop and you had when you close a window you can make the window explode or it would blow up in flames or it would fold up into a paper airplane and fly off the screen and back then that was because we were still using XOR we are still using XOR for the most part these days but you had you know your standard compositors and one of the very popular compositors back then was CompiS and CompiS was a compositor that had all these amazing effects and you typically back then you use the old GNOME 2 desktop environment in conjunction with the CompiS compositor you get just these amazing desktop effects that were truly world-class no other operating system had the kind of desktop effects that Linux had back then and I would argue today Linux doesn't have those desktop effects the way we had it 15 years ago and the reason is because nobody's putting in that work anymore with these XOR compositors for the last 12 years or so people have been focused on working on Wayland getting a new display server up which is still not even close to being ready yet and of course Wayland is much more complex and the way it does things because now you don't create a desktop environment and a window manager you create a Wayland compositor every Wayland window manager is essentially a compositor you it's a compositor and window manager all together and it's a mess one of the things back in the day with XOR on Linux we have probably more than a hundred different desktop environments and window managers to choose from we have ultimate choice and just amazing variation between all of these desktop environments and window managers with Wayland we're not going to have probably any real variation where it's going to be very limited is because it's so hard to create these Wayland window managers compared to how easy it is to create one in XOR right we're not going to have nearly as many window managers most of them because of the amount of code and work involved are simply going to for the most part be forks of each other because it's just too complicated to start all over and do your own compositor Wayland compositor when somebody's already did one for this other window manager so I'll just fork their window manager and it's not going to be the same right and I it bothers me it really bothers me how this new technology these new desktop environments these new theming tool kits the new display server new audio servers with you know also and then pulse and then pipe wire that are all just hacks that get stacked on top of each other it's becoming a mess and Linux on the desktop really has become again so complicated and so inflexible that it's really hard to be that tinkerer you know back in the day you could take these pieces and rearrange them and put them back together again you could get in the config files you could hack on things and you could just do some amazingly creative stuff with Linux and you can still do that for the most part on Linux but it's not the same right it's becoming much more of a rigid ecosystem and it troubles me now a lot of the lower level Linux utilities especially like the good new core utilities and things like that once you get into the command line stuff all of that stuff is still very simple it's all small modular tools for the most part these small tools they do one job they do one thing do one thing well and they have the ability to pipe their output as input into the next command so you can pipe things into it and you know at the command line we still have that ultimate flexibility and customization we have ultimate power but once you get more into especially the desktop realm you know once you get into user interface stuff especially user interfaces that are designed for being new user friendly a lot of that stuff has had their their power stripped away right you're no longer able to do as much with these new desktop environments and some cases these new programs that crop up one of the things one of the biggest programs on Linux nowadays is system d system d of course is the init system on most Linux distributions although it's much more than an init system it's actually an entire suite of applications the init system is actually a really really small part of system d and that's because system d includes things like system d timers and all the networking stuff and system d has you know a bajillion components to it right the init part of it again it's just a very small part and why does that need to be the case couldn't you have all of that split up now i don't mind system d system d actually works and i will give system d credit as far as to the end user system d is actually pretty user friendly as far as how you interact with it in many cases system d is actually a little more user friendly than some of the other alternative init systems especially some of the older ones that system d was created to replace such as sys 5 init and upstart but really the point of this little rant that i'm going on today you really this is just me in a therapy session you guys are the psychiatrists or the psychologists here you know this is me laying on a couch you know giving you my thoughts here is i don't like the direction that so many of these free software projects are going they're making these pieces of software that are just very rigid and very limiting and it is it is completely changing gnu slash linux as we knew it many of us fell in love with linux because of that customization and that extensibility and that's really lacking and a lot of modern software projects and again i know i'm not the only one that feels this way because i see other people on video or in text uh reddit places like that they post um their desktops and i see them using linux very much like me where a lot of the tools i use i'm looking for extremely customizable extremely extensible tools right and simple tools for the most part why do i use tools like dmenu so much why do i have so many scripts that i've written the interface with dmenu because that thing is just mind numbingly simple right it's so crazy simple the amount of lines of code to dmenu are i don't know probably a few hundred lines of code i don't know i haven't read the source code but if i wanted to it's not a lot of lines of code anybody could go read the source code within i don't know 15 20 minutes probably but it's not just the fact that it's not written in a lot of lines of code it's the fact that dmenu the way it was designed is designed to be extensible customizable and flexible is because you can take any input and feed it into dmenu i can uh the input from a file i can direct it into dmenu or the output from another unix shell command i can pipe it into dmenu right and that is extremely flexible and just very very cool for the most part these days i don't use file managers i almost never use a proper file manager whether it be a graphical file manager or a terminal file manager i rarely ever use gear ed inside of emacs if i need to do any file management 99.9 of the time i do it in the terminal with your standard gendu core utils you know ls and cd and rm and cp you know all of those standard shell commands that are designed for file management that's my file manager because at the end of the day they're simple they're flexible you can do a lot with them you can script with those particular tools and i just prefer that workflow and i just hope that especially the maintainers of various linux distributions and the lead devs of some of these desktop environments and window managers especially some of the up and coming ones that are being designed with wailing in mind i hope they keep this in mind when they're designing their particular software one of the things with free and open source software is i want to be able to hack on it if i can't do what i want to do with your particular piece of software the fact that it's free and open source well that's great i love that it's licensed that way but if i can't really do what i want to do if i can't make it into what i want to make it into what's really the difference between your free software project and a proprietary software project it's really other than the license it's essentially becomes the same thing now maybe that's just me being pessimistic maybe i'm just in a bad mood today i did go to the gym and i worked out for about an hour and a half and it wasn't that long ago that i actually stepped off a treadmill over at any time fitness so you know that puts people in a bad mood maybe that's why i wanted to rant today i don't know but i hope you guys enjoyed this little rant and i hope especially those of you that are developing software take some of the points that i mentioned today and just use it and it's a little food for thought peace guys