So, welcome everyone. Thank you to Monsters, Ghosts, and Bugs. I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Laura Abbott. My official job title is Fedora Kernel Maintainer. I'm one of three people who maintains the Fedora Kernel. This generally involves taking updates from the upstream kernel, fixing Fedora bugs, generally keeping the Fedora Kernel going. Apart from that, I also work on some more internal-facing work towards forward-looking kernels, which generally well aligns with my Fedora work. Being a kernel maintainer ends up meaning I'm a generalist, and I have a background in a wide variety of different areas. I used to work on Android devices. I worked on some stuff related to Android. I still work on some of that. I've done memory management. I've done some ARM architecture work. This sometimes confuses people, and they're left asking me, so what exactly do you do? And the answer is I do it all. And you really end up needing to do all of it in order to maintain a kernel. So I'd like everyone just to think for a minute about what kernel is running on your system. This can be either your laptop you have out right now, another server you have out there, or anything. Now think about that kernel and ask yourself, do you know exactly why you're running that kernel? Can you think of a specific reason why you chose that particular kernel? And this is the focus of the talk, is to get you thinking about what kernels you're running and how exactly it's maintained, and what impact it may have. I titled this talk Monsters, Ghosts, and Bugs, because I'll admit it was catchy. But these are examples of the type of thing you need to think about when selecting a kernel. Bugs, obviously everyone needs to think about bugs. Then there are the ghosts out there, the more complicated bugs and more complicated features you may need to deal with. And then there are monster kernels out there, and I'm going to talk about why some of those monsters may not actually be as scary as you may think they are. Before I talk about the release process, I'm going to talk about how the Linux kernel releases a kernel. You may have seen this in other talks, but this is my version of the entire thing. The usual version from LWN or the Linux Foundation is, wow, there are so many people contributing to the kernel. This was the busiest kernel yet, and this is very true. There are new people contributing to the new kernel every release, along with the same old people contributing. Despite the fact that there are some people contributing, the Linux kernel was released on a remarkably regular basis. This is my visualization I like to use for thinking about the kernel timeline. All the way in the left you have the 4.20 release, which represents the kernel that came out towards the end of December. And all the way on the right is 5.0. Each block represents a week of time. We are right around 5.0 RC4 right now. Later this evening I'm expecting to go back and start working on doing that release. If all goes according to plan, 5.0 will be released at the end of February. How exactly do you know this is a schedule? This is what Linux has decided to do in the past, and we have no reason to believe it's going to change. Linux Torvald still sets the release schedule, and this is the schedule he shows you to stick with. And if anyone's curious, the jump from 4.20 to 5.0 doesn't actually mean anything significant. It simply means Linux decided the numbers were getting too big, something about counting too high on your fingers and toes. All this schedule is so predictable that you can probably guess when the next kernel is going to be available. This is a website, phbcrystalball.org, that's the name's a little bit goofy here, but this is a really useful website for showing an estimate about when the next kernel might be released. Usually used for planning. I say rough idea because things can change. The diagram I gave previously had only 7th release candidates. More and more these days the kernel seems to be getting 8th release candidate, and almost exactly a year ago when Spectre and Meltdown and Bethold stuff was happening, we ended up with a 9th release candidate. Sometimes things may get delayed by a few days, and the kernel community is not interested in your release schedules. I'll talk more about this later. The releases are going to happen on a remarkably cyclic basis though, so you can use this as a rough idea about when things are going to come out. Let's talk about some parts of the release cycle. The first part is the merge window. Right after one kernel is released, the merge window for the next kernel opens up. As the name merge window applies, this is when everything is going to get merged together. This time period lasts about 2 weeks. This is a very busy time for kernel maintainers. They're going to be doing final preparations if it gets true to be pulled by someone, and maybe accepting pull requests themselves. There are a lot of kernel maintainers these days, and many of them don't submit to Linux directly. All the trees will eventually make it into Linux's master branch. And this is an important point. All kernel releases are happening off of Linux's master branch and Git repository. I said this always. Linux did take a brief break in the fall, but for pretty much everything you can assume that Linux is the one doing the releases. And it's also important to note that a patch is not considered fully merged until it was actually in Linux's trees. A lot of maintainers will not be reviewing patches during the merge window. Greg K.H. has an autoresponder bot, email bot that will say, I will not look at this until after the merge window. Once a feature lands in Linux's tree, it's expected it's had some degree of testing. Once it's actually in Linux's tree, it's going to get tested by a much wider audience. As you might expect, this is going to find bugs. The merge window is going to be where most of the bugs are introduced and found. If you're testing during the merge window and identify a commit that's a buggy commit, there's a good chance it can get fixed right then and there. This is why it's important to always be testing the kernel, even during the merge window. Eventually all good things must come to an end, and after about two weeks, the merge window closes and Linux releases RC1 off of its master branch. The good news is at this point, things usually start slowing down a lot. No new major features are expected to come in. This is not always the case though. Sometimes new features may find their way in. The larger the feature, the more unhappy Linux is going to be. There's a schedule to the kernel, and the schedule is that new features need to come in during the merge window. I'll emphasize why this is in a bit. But in general, by this time, most of the new features should be in, simply because it's time to continue testing. I mentioned that bugs are often found and fixed during the merge window. These bugs tend to be sometimes very low-hanging fruit, obvious things that are fixed and can be fixed immediately. Tricking your bugs may have been unsolved or just hadn't been noticed yet because the kernel hadn't gotten enough testing time. You'll see a lot of bug fixes for the current kernel sent during this time. This is also the time to start looking towards the next kernel. Mankaters will start to do more patch review post-merge window. But for patches sent, unless they are fixing a new or major regression, patches will be queued up for the next kernel. So 5.1 for the current cycle. If you're sending a patch now, it's going to be queued up for 5.1. Requesting a maintainer take a patch off-cycle is not going to end well, simply because there's a good chance it could reduce the overall quality of the kernel. And Linux will probably reject the pull request. Greg Gage has a talk on YouTube titled, I don't want your code, which is a pretty harsh name for a talk. But in it, he gives a good example of a story of when he tried to accept a patch off-cycle and how it caused a regression for the kernel. So there's a good reason why exactly the kernel maintainers enforce the rules they do. Eventually a leak passes and another RSE happens. Each release candidate looks about the same, but the expectation is that the number of patches going into each RSE should be getting smaller and smaller since only bug fixes are coming in. Sometimes RSEs may get slightly bigger, sometimes it goes faster than others, time goes on. Eventually, Linux decides that the kernel is stable enough and will declare a release. And everyone is super excited. Brand new kernel has come out. This means it's time to update everyone, right? Unfortunately, you may not want to do this. Just because a major kernel version is released doesn't actually mean it's fully bug-free. After a kernel version is released, it's going to get bug fixes for a period of time, typically until the next kernel version is released. We're currently working on 5.0, which is expected to be released in February. That's going to get stable updates, 5.0.1, 5.0.2, until the next kernel version is released, 5.1. I mentioned stable updates are bug fixes. A stable update contains bug fixes that meet a very specific set of requirements. These are usually small self-contained fixes that are less than 100 lines long. The issues must fix real issues, the theoretical race conditions, and the fix must be in Linux's tree. The goal with these requirements is to hopefully minimize regressions and keep the stable trees overall stable. Because all fixes are actually appropriate for stable, the way a patch is indicated is either a maintainer or developer will market a CC stable in the commit text. If you've ever looked through a kernel log, you may see a lot of CC stable actually in the tree. Sometimes the developer will do this, because sometimes maintainers prefer to do this themselves. Sometimes patches may not be initially tagged for stable, but they can still be queued up at a later date. Anyone can request a patch be queued up for stable. All you have to do is email the stable list with the commit hash in Linux's tree, an example of the bug that fixes, and it will eventually get picked up. Because stable is only taking a subset of fixes, by its nature some fixes will not be picked up. There's been an effort underway recently to try and use machine learning to identify more bug fixes for stable trees. The idea is that you take the existing set of patches that have been queued up for stables, perform machine learning on them using deep analysis, and try and identify other patches that may have similar properties, and therefore will fix other bugs. This hasn't been without controversy, simply because it's actually managed to pick up patches that maybe shouldn't have been included. I'll talk about this more, but this is also an example of a type of project we're going to see more of in the future for the kernel. If you ever wanted to see more details about the stable process, there's a document in the kernel that will give you more than enough information. This is a screen cap from kernel.org when I was working on this talk. You'll probably notice there are multiple kernel versions up here. You'll see mainline, which represents Linux's tree. You'll see two stables, one 4.19, and one that's end-of-life, EOL. Then you'll see a lot of long-term stables marked. These LTS or long-term stable kernels are ones that some kernel developer, typically Greg KH, has decided to maintain for an extended period of time. Greg usually picks one kernel version a year to be the next LTS version. Sometimes he'll announce this version beforehand. Sometimes he won't. Sometimes he doesn't want to announce it because he's found that kernel developers really want to get their patches in long-term stable kernels, and therefore they'll try and push code that isn't really ready into the LTS. So it's an enforced kernel for everyone. Usually without fair fail, at least once a year, you're going to see a new LTS kernel. This is a screen cap in the description of the current kernel releases from kernel.org. As you can see, Greg KH is listed as the maintainer for most of them. Then Hutchings is a kernel developer who also works, is associated with the Debian project and has done some work on that tree there. LTS trees are not actually created equal though. Greg intends for them to be used for different uses. The strong preference here is for anyone who's consuming the LTS trees to use the most recent LTS tree, so 4.19, for one year's time, and then upgrade the next year when the next LTS version comes out. The other older LTS versions are targeted at hardware enablement or other such use cases where updates may not be possible. Even though these LTS versions are getting updates, you also may find that the older LTS versions may not always get the testing and the rate of updates as the newer ones. This is most of the kernel trees that upstream produces. So obviously people need to consume these trees in some form. And usually this is in the form of a distribution. When I see distribution, I mean not just traditional desktop distributions like say Fedora or Gintu, but also perhaps more confined distributions like say Android. And the kernel that's running in the distribution really depends on how the maintainers want to approach kernels. At a high level this usually ends up being a trade-off of stability versus features. I'm going to put on my Fedora maintainer hat for a little bit and talk about how Fedora does kernels to give an example of the trade-offs about stability versus features. The Fedora release model is to readase to new kernels about when they're released. So when 5.0 is released in February, the Fedora stable releases will be getting that kernel. This ends up being the easiest option for our workflow and the Fedora release model. It's also well-aligned with what Fedora actually wants to do, which is to be a leading edge distribution. With each new kernel version, you're going to get a lot of new features and significant improvements. I'm going to do some buzzwords here, containers. Everyone loves containers. With each new kernel update, you're going to get new container features, new things in namespaces. Another buzzword everyone loves is EBPF. This is used for tracing, network work. We're saying a lot of new uses for this and each new kernel version, you get a chance to use this. Harbour enablement is another example of new features you get. A good example is the AMD GPU drivers. There's been a lot of work on those in new kernels in recent years and you get to use the latest drivers with these new kernel updates. I could go on, but you get the idea there's a lot of new features. All of these new features come at a cost. Sometimes the new features that come out don't work well, or even worse, they cause regressions and things that used to work stop working. Real-life example from early December. 4.19 came out, it was pushed, and people started reporting file system corruption and it took a few weeks to narrow this down and it turned out there was an issue with the block layer that went things out. So 4.19 had a major block layer regression that was causing file system corruption. Most issues you're going to see aren't that dramatic. Most issues you're going to see tend to be more annoying. Like say, something doesn't quite work or maybe your display doesn't work as well as you expect anymore. And this ends up being a key point for kernels. How much do you actually want to annoy your users? Users of Fedora know that they're going to be getting these new features, but they also expect that they're going to have to do some work for bug fixes in terms of reporting them to the Fedora maintainers or the upstream communities. Obviously we want to minimize the number of problems that occur, but sometimes you're going to have to expect that bugs are going to happen. I mentioned that LTS kernels have strict requirements about what they take in, and they're only supposed to be taking bug fixes. This means that if you're using one of the upstream LTS kernels, you're not going to see perhaps new AMD graphics drivers or EBPF functionality, but chances are you're not going to see EXD4 corruption issues either. And for example, if your goal is hardware settlement on a known set of hardware, using the LTS kernels is probably what you want and you can perhaps use one of those kernels to meet your needs. The LTS kernels are great kernels that are provided by upstream, but there's a number of distributions out there that don't actually use the upstream LTS kernels and just deliver something that kind of looks like an LTS kernel but follows an independent schedule. Upstream is not really a fan of these kernels. They typically have been nicknamed rather harshly Franken kernels. This is because from the community's perspective they don't know what's in them and to them it looks like you're taking this piece and this piece and smashing them all together and getting a huge, scary monster of a kernel. If you look at one of these kernel versions that has say 4.4, you as an external community member don't actually know what's in that 4.4 kernel. The 4.4 kernel perhaps may have some bug fixes but not others, some features but not others. There's a lot of raised eyebrows and some joking on Twitter when Red Hat announced that EBPF was going into its kernel just because EBPF is a new feature and Red Hat is sometimes known for using this delivery model. Upstream also likes to claim this model also means that these kernels are going to be insecure. This is the argument usually made. Upstream is supposed to be the source of truth and Upstream has identified a known set of bug fixes and all bug fixes can potentially be security issues so therefore by not taking all identified bug fixes you potentially have a security issue. In some respects I can't really dispute the fact that if you don't have a particular fix in your kernel then you do have an issue but part of the point of some of these large kernels is that a couple large backing behind them to actually deliver those updates when they actually need it. Part of the philosophy here is that it is better to select only patches that the people who are maintaining these kernels have selected rather than take everything out there and perhaps have to do more validation on these other somewhat random patches that Upstream had identified and bring into your large code base. Some of these large kernels may have other guarantees for things like binary compatibility so bringing in more fixes than necessary may make things harsher. And if what I've described for one of these large kernels sounds ridiculous and saying why would I ever run that then chances are you're not the target audience. The reason that all these kernels are maintained differently is that you can select one that meets your needs. I mentioned part of the idea of only taking certain fixes is that you want to make sure you know exactly what you're getting. And even with the stable trees, despite the best efforts of the stable trees, they still sometimes do see regressions. There's a famous quote out there which is roughly that given enough eyes, all bugs are shallow. And this is what the current community has worked on for years and years and years. The focus has always been on code review to try and find issues before they get committed. And this has worked successfully for many years given where we are today with the Linux kernel and everything. The stable kernels are a good example about the limits of this process. I mentioned that patches for stable trees were posted to the mailing list and these patches are posted with the maintainers and committers CC'd and they are presumed to be accepted unless someone actually objects just to try and keep things going. And then one of the issues we've seen is that people either don't object or they miss if they should object because the patch is either actually incorrect and shouldn't be applied or there's a missing dependency. This has led to regressions in the stable trees and some people not wanting to use them. And even some developers asking for patches not to be picked up automatically for the stable trees unless they have specifically approved them.  There's a lot of work going into them and things have improved dramatically. One of the areas in which we're trying to improve stable trees are using things like continuous integration and automated testing. There's a lot of organizations doing things now. But going back to say the big scary monster over there that philosophy is still that trying to deal with one of these stable trees at the moment may not provide what the containers want to work on. So it's better just to do a model of picking and choosing individual patches. I want to talk about embedded kernels and Android as a lesson learned for dealing with new features and shipping a kernel. When I say embedded I typically mean Linux devices that are designed to run for a small specific purpose. Think something like a Raspberry Pi that may be used in an industrial setting that you've never heard of embedded Linux before. Embedded Linux long had a reputation of shipping kernels very out of date kernels with patches that had never been reviewed by the kernel community. This was not necessarily because they thought this was the best way to do this like say large kernels but because they didn't perhaps know any better. That's when some time explaining how the kernel community releases a kernel. And if we think about how this works at this time if you're going to choose a date to ship a product you need to know what kernel you're going to be shipping around then let's say pick a kernel version. If you're going to be shipping with kernel version Y you need to be working to get your patches into kernel version Y minus one or even Y minus two because kernel development and open source all takes time. And like I said if you try and get kernel maintainers to take these patches off cycle there's a chance the entire kernel is going to end up poorer for it.  You can't really say sorry customer you don't get a product this year because upstream didn't like our driver. So you're going to take what patches you do have ship them on top of what kernel you do have and give that out there. This was the status quo for many years and in some respects it was successful because a lot of these distributions did actually make money but it wasn't a lot of fun to work with. And that was what Android did in the early days. The early versions of Android shipped with a lot of features that had never really been reviewed by upstream. And then eventually the Android team did decide to post these features out there and there was a lot of controversy many emails sent back and forth Google wake lock controversy and wanted to read the entire sort of details. Arguably Android's method for delivering a kernel like this was a success because Android was a commercial product but it also wasn't very sustainable from a kernel maintenance point of view. Today things look much better for Android. Even if at a high level Android is still doing the same thing of taking some out of free patches and shipping them with a kernel. The terrible secret of space though is that almost all distributions are going to be shipping some out of free patches. It's simply to just do little tweaks they want. This is not necessarily a bad thing. The key is figuring out what you're going to do with those patches and how you're engaging with the community. What's really changed for Android is that they're now much more acting in the community and are presenting their work. I mentioned the wake lock controversy. A lot of the controversy around that was that the upstream curve community didn't understand the problem that the Android developers were trying to solve for their commercial product and took a lot of back and forth to try and discover the actual problems that need to be solved. This is what Android has gotten much better at today. Presenting their problems to the upstream community and making sure their needs are communicated for a product. Obviously not every feature they propose is going to be immediately accepted but it's at least gotten out there to start the dialogue. Android is also heavy consumers of the LTS trees testing on every LTS release. This means that not only is the Android project going to be supported, the upstream community benefits because they get the bug reports from what everything finds for testing. I mentioned that Android was a success but a lot of the embedded distributions have also gotten much better these days. Many of the board support packages out there are simply grab the mainline Linux kernel. You could run most mainline, many mainline embedded boards with also the mainline kernel. This has been thanks to a lot of hard work by kernel developers not only to do the upstreaming but also education with companies about how exactly to engage and figure out how to deliver something. And this is the key point to a kernel's strategy. How exactly are you engaging with the community to solve your problems? Maybe the community doesn't actually want your patch but you need to figure out what you're going to do about that. This is a lead into my next topic. People just want to run their own kernels off of kernel.org instead of running a distribution kernel. And I always start with this question by saying this is absolutely something you theoretically can do. And I never want to discourage anyone from doing this for their own personal purposes in terms of learning or getting excited about something. One of the best ways to learn is by breaking something and then fixing it. Compiling your own kernels to apply different patches is a great way to perhaps break something but then also get a chance to fix it. Try turning off different config options and then figure out exactly what's available in your hardware. You can learn a lot by taking a patch that you want to maintain and doing the back ports and trying to make it work with new kernel versions. But if this is for your own personal use that's fine. We're thinking about kernels that are going to actually be used by on a web server that may have services on them. You really don't want to be doing this. I'm really serious here. That gets shipped with your distribution. It's usually well planned out to be aligned with what exactly it wants to support. A distribution has usually made some deliberate choices about saying we want to support x but not y. And so if you're running your own kernel you're trying to do something that the distribution didn't want to do this. Maybe what you want to do is perfectly reasonable, like say pick up a fix or feature that's going to be released in an update soon. That's okay. The beauty of open source is that, like I said, you can absolutely run what kernels you want and do whatever you want. You really just want to think carefully about why you want to be running your own kernel and the work that's going to be involved. And I don't say this to try and keep myself in a job as a kernel maintainer. A kernel maintainer can often be a pretty tedious job and one of my goals is to see if I can automate myself out of a job more. I don't think this is completely possible though. A big part of what kernel maintainers are doing is thinking not just about today's kernel but how they're going to deal with tomorrow's kernel as well. Let's say you found this amazing catch set upstream that improves your workload by 1000% but it's not going to be accepted by anyone or maybe never.  So you build it, you test it, you deploy it, you're done, right? This is your periodic reminder to please make sure you update your kernels. You cannot just send what kernel out there and deploy it forever. You need to make sure you're getting not just security fixes but all fixes. Everything will be better. And the advice I would give to anyone out there which is endorsed by Upstreet is that if you want to run your own kernel make sure you're tracking one of the LTS branches from kernel.org and take their updates. Otherwise you're going to be responsible for delivering your own updates. I spent a long time talking about how these larger enterprise kernels will pick and choose patches individually instead of doing stable updates. Part of the reason why this ends up working is because there are enough kernel engineers there looking at the kernels to know exactly which patches they can pick up, which patches they are, it is okay to skip and what's already in the kernel. This is a really hard thing to do as an individual or even a small team. Android is an interesting study in this. I used to work on Android phones and at the time we didn't really track stable updates as closely as we should. This meant we were regularly hitting bugs that had been fixed months ago in our systems. If you were around previously for Larry Woodman's presentation on memory performance, one of the bugs that I remember dealing and debugging with was the fact that some pages were underflowing simply because of the configuration we were using. It had already been fixed and stable but just wasn't in our tree. Not a lot of fun for anyone involved. If you're not running an LTS branch and regularly picking up those updates, you're forever going to be playing catch-up about trying to figure out which of those stable updates will apply to your off-cycle tree. Upstream is really doing a lot of work to identify bug fixes and package them all up. You really want to be taking advantage of that. Even if you use an LTS kernel like everyone recommends, there's a good chance that you're eventually going to have to do some work to keep your arbitrary patch up to date. Eventually you're going to run into merge conflicts and I'd say that merge conflicts are why I will never be able to fully automate myself out of a job. There are tools out there to make dealing with backports and merges easier but ultimately it's going to have to be a human who spends the time to think about and understand the code. There's a new structure added. The semantics of the API has changed. You have to figure out exactly as a kernel maintainer how you're going to fix that to make it work. Even more fun is when a patch does apply but it still doesn't work because the semantics have changed. Another story from my Android days. I once helped with a kernel update and did a backport and merged incorrectly that resulted in a memory accounting bug. This went on for months with some weird behavior and it wasn't until I actually got enough reports of negative memory pages that I could finally figure out exactly what was wrong. Again, not a lot of fun for anyone involved. If I could go back and give myself some advice, I would probably have tried to get more people to actually review what I was doing and say, does this look right? Because I remember I wasn't actually sure if I had done the work right. Lesson learned. The reason these large enterprise kernels actually work is because there are enough eyes and people reviewing the patches to make sure things are done correctly. Like I said, I never want to encourage anyone from doing this learning just because if you're doing this work on your own and it's a great way to learn, I actually learned a lot about the memory enhancement system by breaking it and then fixing it. But if you're thinking about how to rule over kernels for, say, a service or a product, you really don't want to be doing this and you want to make sure you're setting yourself up for success. Then we have our favorite bugs exposed last year, Spectre and Meltdown. One of the ghosts from this talk. There's been a lot of things written out there about how this disclosure was handled absolutely terribly. People have given talks about this and I would absolutely agree that this process was not great. We certainly learned a lot and later variants were handled much better. But we're never actually going to be done with security. I'd like to believe that everything is going to be handled perfectly the next time we have a security issue, whether it's in software or hardware, but I'm also a pessimist and believe that there's inevitably going to be some sort of problem. If you're maintaining a kernel that's, say, not tracking one of the LTS kernels or even if it is tracking one of the LTS kernels, what's your plan going to be when you wake up and look at the news and see, huh, there's a fun new zero name in the kernel? You are ultimately going to be the one responsible for applying that update to your tree and getting it out. I've spent some time talking about backports and how you can do those incorrectly. If you're the one applying that to your tree, how confident are you that you've applied the security update correctly to make sure the issue was actually fixed? There have been some instances where distributions have not always applied this correctly and they've had to go back and try and fix it. Kind of embarrassing. This also leads into my last point about I made it seem like distributions always get this right in terms of getting everything I spelled out, but this isn't true. Distributions can make these types of mistakes in terms of dealing with backports and out of free catches, but part of the advantage about going to the distributions instead of going with your own kernel is that there are already people out there looking and working on a kernel. So my advice is to take advantage of someone else's mistakes before making your own. That's about all I have to say and I want to wrap things up. The question about which kernel you pick ends up coming down to what's your focus If you don't care about the newest features, it might make sense to run an LTS kernel that just gets bug fixes. If you have stricter stability requirements or are particularly picky, maybe one of these large, scary kernels is actually right for you because it's not that scary. If you actually want the newest features, maybe you can just get away with one of the latest stable kernels. And then if you want to run your own kernel, you certainly can, open source lets you do that, think twice about what you do so. And more than anything, when choosing your kernel, you really want to pick something that's going to make your life easier and what you care about. Questions? So the question is there's an upstream project about using machine learning for stable updates. Are there any efforts by Red Hat or Fedora to try and do something like that? I'm going to just speak for Fedora. Fedora is an upstream consumer of the stable trees. We pretty much take that directly. So it doesn't really make sense for Fedora to do anything more than that. But at least I've talked with several of the maintainers of that, Sosh11, who's done the work and tried to give him some feedback about other things like that. So we are looking at that for things like that. Thank you very much.


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Stop calling me your dang girlfriend I'm not your girlfriend anymore to be honest guys It is a huge adjustment considering we've been dating for six years But I'm having fun with that and by her reaction already I know it's just gonna get better and better or maybe even worse and worse I should say but she is in the shower right now getting ready for the day I have so much stuff planned But make sure to watch till the end because this girl is already going crazy And I just want to see if I can push your buttons a little more So give this video a thumbs up for me right now make sure to subscribe if you had not already Welcome to the Marvel Squad. Let's go. Oh my gosh Mariah Babe Come here They're gone Megan and Jordan have officially left our house. Do you not know who that is her twin sister? Boyfriend crying last night, but I don't think I'm as sad because We're going back to Chicago and like three days and what did we say we were gonna do? I'm not gonna tell you guys if you were listening in our recent video You know why we are going to Chicago something huge. Maybe I'll say it at the end of this video So stay tuned, but you're not gonna want to miss it because it might have to do with WD something huge something huge. Let's just say but I had to get my girlfriend over here to show her. It's crazy that It doesn't matter I know we're I sometimes say boyfriend on accident, but it's yeah, me too. I said Well, I had to give my girlfriend over here to I've been saying girlfriend for six years Why change it six years the same thing girlfriend fiancee job done either way you're mine, so All right, we got to go to the gym because we've been lazy we've been taken weeks off at the gym Mariah we have been taking weeks off, but we've been busy that yes, but we still Anyways, we got to get our butts in the gym get working out before the game. Yeah, we got I don't want my girlfriend to go flat Okay Guys, we're about halfway through our worker right now My legs as you can see freaking drenched come on babe get it Today's leg day, so you already know it's gonna be tough no matter what I've been peep the new tat by the way That was an intense workout How long has it been since we went to the gym?  You only get the same for a year. I will be clear Beyonce Workouts complete. I finally feel back to my productive self We don't work out. We don't feel productive in the day. I don't know why I just killed the whole mood Well, we're gonna be busy again You already know it's gonna be a good day and why is that? Okay, but not only that but but what about the pink drink they made it good They made it perfect. No berries look at the color if you get one of these every day You know the colors on point right now and actually Mariah's just started getting their everything Bagel and she's loves it at first she hit it on it now. She loves it God girlfriends can be such a hassle sometimes Marvel Squad telling you Beyonce I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's not my fault girlfriend just rolls off the tongue better I don't mean to I will I will be better. Okay, look at this girl What did you you spent all that time getting ready? Okay? I was sorry guys. You can do your makeup today, right? I've been looking like a complete mess the last couple videos, and I apologize for that I was not looking cute lately, but I'm not even gonna let you talk she gets married. I cut her off But I have a reason to now you're cut off I Hate one girls do this.  No, this is a safe household.  It's hard. I call you that all the time All right, let's get over it. I'm gonna stop calling you my girlfriend Yes, wait, can you show them? Okay, we show them what you're eating now. Okay, I'm eating chicken brown seasoned rice if your mouth is not watering right now I don't know what is and if you think that looks nasty. Hold on. I'll give you a little little dose of mine Mine is not nasty. I got guacamole. I got chicken rice Lettuce, you know the vegetables and if you're wondering those are those are pickled onions with I do like there They are there. I told you I know they might look weird, but it is amazing Get it another one Another one Mama squad when we leave the house we cannot go anywhere without making a basket We just got this basketball loop and we've been playing it with like everyone that's been over But I'm just gonna tell you this is honestly one of the best purchases We've ever made and it was only like a hundred bucks. How fun is it?  No, you don't and it's fiance Okay, right now, let's play one be one yes right now. Let's see who wins No to be honest, though, babe at the end you did make one more, but it didn't count it so you might have So We found this awesome new store that bill is hyping up all day.  We never been here, but it's closed I literally was saying to Mariah all day today today's president's day So people are not gonna be having their businesses open and we totally forgot I'm sorry Starbucks is open today. They're saying screw it. They stayed open all day Yeah, weren't they open earlier though? So first have been open. Yeah, no, not Starbucks. Yeah, they were open yesterday Dang a lot of places are still open. I think it's just like school and stuff. I don't know. Yeah, it's just like some places But looks like we're going home We're not gonna get anything new throw pillows or blankets and goodies. I know I'm sorry, baby My girlfriend so sad. She's so upset Are you like is this a joke? No Are you pranking me where you say?  It's not my fault.   What we're in the middle of a conversation Yo, what up? So my girlfriend Mariah's over here Tweaking out because I'm calling her girlfriend. Is that like a bad thing? No, you're my fiance now Shouldn't I like I've been dating her for six years. It's hard to get rid of the girlfriend thing Yes Yes, I don't think it matters, right Jordan don't even if you propose to Megan you would want her to call your fiancee not boyfriend All right, I just wanted I just want to get your input on that but I know it's like it's whatever I know My girlfriend is silly, isn't she? It is my girlfriend funny Hi He goes yeah, your girlfriend's pretty funny Okay Why are you so upset Calm down To be honest, I did not tell Jordan I was filming this prank at all today and he went along with it He goes yeah, your girlfriend is pretty funny. She is though. She is though. I kind of like girlfriend ring Baby, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's what you're the best fiance in the world You like that? See you don't even like when I say fiance so maybe I'm annoyed with you now You annoyed me all day long. You think that's funny. Come here. Give me a kiss. No, I'm not going. Give me a kiss You have to that is your fault. Don't ever come over again. Now. You're just trying to mess with me. Don't ever I'm not going dude. Don't blackmail me like that.  She would have went She's going wedding dress shopping literally a week right? I know you're so excited Exactly you even know that exact day that you're going actually it's only gonna be in two days when they see this exactly Mama squad. I hope you enjoyed this video I honestly did not think she was gonna get as upset as she did at the end because it's like You don't listen to me when I correct you and I felt like you were like not taking me serious or taking this Like next step serious It's not a big deal to me and it's fine if you mess up because I say boyfriend and I'm like, oh shoot But when you know it all day, sometimes I say it on accident. We both do like you better not be saying boy You said better be saying fiance. I don't know. I'm just saying like I understand me I don't know it because we've been dating you're a fiance. I'm fiance Fiance for women is spelled with two E's at the end for men. It's supposed to be 20. It's really weird I didn't know that but if you didn't know that now you know fiance is two E's fiance 20 sounds the exact same though, but mariah, I love you You're my fiance forever or for a year fiance for a year So we gotta say it as much as we can because we're gonna about to get married and then I'm gonna call you my wife Which does sound way better Husband wife way better than fiance fiance because that's sometimes confusing. It is like what fiance you're talking about Are you talking about fiance? That's why I kind of like boyfriend and girlfriend a little bit better than fiance because it kind of It's confusing, you know, but I like seeing it but I like husband and wife because wife. Oh, yeah Girlfriend wife. Yeah, it sounds professional. Yeah, it does sound professional stay to mama squad 12 months to come But she's picking out a wedding dress in one week Make sure to subscribe and turn and everyone if you already are subscribed make sure your post notifications are on Because we're gonna be posting her wedding dress shopping official video in one week on monday Counted down on monday next week.  Make sure to give it a huge thumbs up. Thank you so much for watching We will see you in the next one Peace Peace love you guys You already bumped them out. Okay. Bumped by love you. You already bumped it. I want to tell you the secret All right, hang up. Love you guys You


Lux presents Hollywood the Lux Radio Theatre brings you Judy Garland John Payne and Adolf Mongeau in morning glory. Ladies and gentlemen your producer Mr. Cecil B. DeMille. Greetings from Hollywood ladies and gentlemen. The odds were 10,000 to one against a certain 13 year old girl who came to a certain Hollywood studio looking for a job but the theater was in our blood. A mother and father were vote of villains. She herself had worked in a singing act with her sisters and like every other trooper the world over. Judy Garland wanted to be a star. Seven years have passed and the dreams of our little 10,000 to one shot have come true. Judy is a star. The latest evidence of that is the new Metro Golden Mayor picture for me and my gal. Because she's lived so much of tonight's story herself we've cast her as one of the stars in Zoe Akin's great drama of the footlights the RKO motion picture morning glory and soaring with her are two leading men John Payne and Adolf Mongeau. Morning glory is the saga of one stage struck girl who had talent and a fighting heart and because it's written in such warm and human terms it becomes the story of all those girls who flocked to Broadway and Hollywood through the years but with each girl the story has a different ending and here's another story that's developed an unusual twist. Some time ago I told you about my adventures in washing my own woolen socks. Later a newspaper cartoon gave a very graphic picture of the same activity and consequently my mail has been full of letters from men all over the country who turn out to be brothers under the skin they use looks like too. I thought at the time I took over the job that I was really some sort of domestic hero but it appears that I have many companions at the wash tub and all seem anxious to give advice to a fellow member of the club. Some insist that wire drying frames are the best others vote for wooden ones I'm a wooden frame man myself but the main point is plenty of those suds that come only from Lux Flakes and now the thrill that comes with the curtain going up as we present the first act of morning glory starring Judy Garland as Eva Lovelace John Payne as Joseph Sheridan and Adolf Marjou as Lewis Easton. Lewis Easton the famous theatrical producer is casting a new play up and down Broadway the tidings have spread like a flame and his outer office is jammed with actors and actresses young and old good and bad well-dressed and shabby among them and obviously out of place is Eva Lovelace Eva is the product of a small college town and looks as though she might have won school honors and dramatics she smiled brightly at the besieged secretary and speaks in her finest stage English. How do you do my name is Eva Lovelace and I'd like to see Mr. Easton please so a lot of people did you get a call well no I didn't you see I've never met Mr. Easton that's a shame isn't it what experience please well I haven't had any that is not on Broadway no experience I see yes that's why I'd like to meet Mr. Easton because if he's never seen me then he doesn't know what I'm like and that's rather important when you're casting to type isn't it yes rather I'll put your name on the list thank you have a seat if you can find one thank you very much I hear you that's a break for her Lewis Easter well she has a box office drawer why I don't know what's the name of the play anyone know loose skies Joseph Sheridan wrote it look they're Sheridan now please quiet there are only a few parts just a moment please is Vivian Hall here yes Mr. Sheridan will you wait please and Mr. Hedges right here sir Mr. Easton we'll see you in a moment Hedges thank now we won't have time to see anyone else today sorry miss Hall oh yes may I congratulate you on obtaining a part it must be thrilling to work for the great Mr. Easton thank you I I don't believe I've met you my name is Eva Lovelace you've probably never heard of me because I'm just starting if Mr. Easton takes me this will be my New York debut oh but I've acted ever since I was child really oh yes just a little theater amateur but good I suppose you've had a great deal of experience yes I have aren't you cold in that suit it's hardly warm enough for a day like this I like to feel cold it makes me feel strong or miss hall yes you won't have to stay any longer come in tomorrow and we'll give you the part thank you Mr. Hedges do you mind waiting a few more minutes not at all I'm used to waiting thanks Mr. Hedges did anyone ever tell you you have an absolutely exquisite voice well thank you young lady I could tell you with a real thing right off I'm taken for English sometimes too that is at home in Franklin Vermont may I sit beside you I certainly thank you of course I know your name is Hedges but won't you tell me your full name because I want you to be my very first friend in New York well it's Robert Harley Hedges my it's impressive mine's Eva Lovelace and that's a nice name it's partly made up and partly real it was Ada Love Love is my family name I added the name you like it a shorter name would be much more convenient on a sign still Eva Lovelace in Camille for instance or Eva Lovelace in Romeo and Juliet sounds very distinguished doesn't it oh yes you see I don't want to keep my family's name because I should probably have several scandals while I live and I don't want to cause them any trouble until I'm famous then they won't mind yes of course you you said something about my becoming your first friend yes my friend and teacher you speak so beautifully and I I know I speak so non-discreetly but I wanted to ask you if you'll give me a lesson every day right off what I really want to pay not once because I I have only enough money for a certain length of time I've got to succeed before it's gone but I had planned to go to the best teacher I could find and arrange to pay later of course I should have to find someone who believed in me unequivocally how unequivocally do you mean unequivocally yes that's it thank you you see those are the things I've got to learn won't you give me a lesson every day and let me pay you later when I find a good part but I live way uptown and well my place isn't exactly a studio that doesn't matter so long as it's quiet and we can sit and smoke oh I smoke of course though in Franklin it still isn't done in the best of family really oh isn't that a picture of voluntary up there on the wall yes I played with her many years ago was she very lovely you've been in theater a long time haven't you did you know Sarah Burnham yes she was the most wonderful of all wasn't she they were both wonderful Leon Hart broke your heart Ellen Terry mended it I suppose I'll never be wonderful not wonderful like them but I've got something wonderful in me too you'll see you'll help me with all the great parts won't you Julie at Lady Macbeth a clear picture someday my picture will be on that wall why not you see that picture next to the door oh yes that's Rita Vernon Rita Vernon a few years ago she was young and ambitious and unknown like you she made a hit in a small part and now she's a star she's a mr.  Sheridan oh don't mind me I'm just the author I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you Joseph you have written me a couple of hits well thanks but I don't want light things anymore I want drama something I can get my teeth into but Joseph wrote blue skies especially for you I wouldn't know it from reading it the man's part hogs the whole show oh Lewis why can't you get me something by what's his name you know the man who wrote the thing Catherine Cornell did last season Mona yes didn't you take an option and a play by him because Joseph was crazy about it yes but then yes he did it'll be a great play when we find the right woman for the part reader right woman for the part why haven't you sent this play to me to read well it isn't translated yet Rita I'm working on it now that's right I don't think you'll like it Rita I'll decide that for myself what's the name of it oh the golden bow now listen Rita I tell you what I'll do I'll make you a proposition you play blue skies for me after that you can pick your own play any play you like all right when can I see a script Lewis I will send it to your department tomorrow Rita tomorrow morning but I tell you she won't like it it's all wrong for her shows of please Rita isn't silly enough to play something she isn't right for are you Rita certainly not but I have an idea Lewis that I'll be just right for golden bow goodbye darling goodbye sweet Lewis are you crazy I'll wait Vernon can't play that part it's sacrilege I know I know but I had to do something to get it play blue skies well you didn't have to ruin the mold art piece quiet quiet come in yes what is it Mr. Hedges sir he's been waiting quite a while oh yes send him in morning Mr. Easton hello there Bob sorry to have kept you waiting right all right have a seat now the parts right up your street you play you do Mr. Easton I'm so happy to meet you what how did you get in here this is a this is either lovelace Mr. Easton she was waiting outside we were talking and I just made Mr. Hedges bring me in I hope you don't mind Mr. Easton but if there's one person I wanted to meet it's you I just reverence your work thank you that's very kind miss lovelace is rather anxious to become an actress well that's fine that's fine now Bob about the part it's not long but it's good the father again that's right how about it delighted well go and tell Seymour to make up a contract thanks very much Mr. Easton may I sit down here and wait Mr. Easton wait for what well until you're not busy so you can interview me well I'm very busy right this minute oh it's all right Lewis I'm all through now oh sit down miss oh thank you uh what did you say your name was miss uh lovelace evil lovelace do you like it I could change it if you don't no no it's all right oh I'm glad have you been on the stage long miss lovelace well not on the regular stage but I was in a lot of plays the Franklin theater girl gave at the little theater the little theater yes in Franklin Vermont you know the Franklin players Franklin players oh yes of course of course Franklin's where I lived until some time ago the Franklin newspaper seemed quite sure I had a future I play all sorts of parts header you know Ibsen's head of course the old woman and riders to the sea and kitty and you never can tell by sure and then I sure oh yes Bernard Shaw the one and only you think Shaw's clever miss lovelace ah he's our greatest living dramatist is that so oh yes by the way I had a charming letter from him the other day I wrote him a letter and told him I was coming to New York and expected to be very famous and have a theater of my own so I could act his clear patriot I have his answer right here with me it's never left me a moment since I received it I even sleep with it under my pillow that's fine well suppose you come back next week or so oh wait Lewis may I see the letter miss lovelace of course I think it was charming of him to write don't you miss east oh yes charming Lewis this is very interesting he's very happy miss lovelace is going to see he's properly recognized when she has her own repertory theater he hopes miss lovelace won't forget oh I won't I've swung it there will always be a short play in my repertoire as long as I remain in the theater of course I expected to die at my zenith my star shall never set I've sworn that too and when the time comes when I feel I've done my best I shall really die by my own hand some night at the end of the play on the stage the producer will love that I'm sure miss lovelace I hope you'll excuse me but I have a few appointments waiting of course I know and you don't think there's anything for me in your new production well I'm afraid not there aren't any young girl parts in this play well perhaps an old woman that are a middle-aged one I can do both there really isn't anything miss lovelace oh I'm sorry of course money is no object with me I'll play any part that appeals to me for twenty dollars oh but I'll never under any circumstances play a part for which I do not feel a sincere congeniality well that's very credible now miss no one is nothing to me absolutely nothing I could have married for money if I'd wanted to Edwin Talbot the son of W.E. Talbot one of the richest men in Franklin wanted to marry me you've heard of W.E. Talbot the chow-chow king I know I uh I don't believe I have honey why Talbot's chow-chow is famous of course practically owns Franklin but I think artists should be free free to live free to love free to miss lovelace please uh Joseph that appointment we're late very late sorry miss lovelace well I won't hold you any longer good day mr east good day good day just leave your number with my secretary I will and good day to you mr uh Sheridan of course I'll see you again I hope and you missed yes yes come in when you get another letter from Bernard Shaw thank you you've been so kind oh wow oh wow oh wow oh uh excuse me just one more thing mr eastern yes I've had voice training too singing you know I've never taken it very seriously because acting straight dramatic acting is my strong point yes I'll keep that in mind thank you thank you oh wow oh wow oh Joseph I wish you'd show a little more respect for my valuable time what's the matter but why encourage those people I thought she was going to spend the day you know Lewis I think that kid's got something well she's got nerve if that's what you mean say don't you think she might do the bit we had in the last act what bit the maid sure doesn't have to be acted if she'll just get out there and speak that's all we need why don't you let her try are you crazy why not the girl's looking for a break that she's a nut she's wacky oh no she isn't she's just trying to make an impression go on give her the part all right all right I'll think it over well my dear how do you feel on your first opening night nervous oh dear no I feel as if at last I'm in my rightful sphere of course I know I'm just a small cog in bringing a creation to life I wouldn't say that my dear oh well I only have three lines that's true but those three lines are very important to the plot yes I realize the responsibility entrusted to me and then I practically have the last line in the play haven't I where I say to miss Vernon mr Frederick is calling long distance will you take it here ma'am well then there's only one more short speech so it's really the finish of the play isn't it that's right on stage curtain on stage please well here we go good luck my dear good luck to you mr hedges and thank you so much nonsense what for for helping an actress get started on her career let's hope it's a good long and my dear see you later yes mr hedges mr Frederick is calling long distance will you take it here ma'am no uh mr Frederick is calling long distance oh mr Frederick is calling long distance mr Frederick is calling long distance will you take it here ma'am it's over all right it came right next to being over for good what happened to that girl you mean even yes that lovelace nut oh I just think she was a little nervous she was not she got out there and hand all over the place who do you think she is very hard no she'll have to do something about that made it was horrible all right Rita all right she's simply ruined that I tell me I don't know what happened to me don't speak to me all my nerves curtain call miss Vernon shut up Lois you've got to do something do you hear now listen Rita I tell you I'll do don't tell me do it oh mr eastern I'm so sorry when I got out there I I know it was bad but the lights and the people yes I know I know I'm sorry too don't worry either you'll be all right tomorrow night no she won't I'm afraid oh yes I will mr eastern I'll work on it all day and tomorrow there won't be any tomorrow night miss lovelace not for you I have my star to think of we'll have to replace you replace me but mr eastern so charlie what happened to those borders in the last scene well watch it tomorrow yes sir I will where's Jim Blaine I tell him I want to see him will you Eva don't cry here wait come here no please please don't say anything Eva let her go Joseph there's nothing you can do about it she's just an amateur and not a very good one at that all right move along please oh good evening officer I'll kind of lay don't you miss yes I was I was just standing in the lobby looking at the pictures well suppose you stand somewhere else off my beat I wouldn't want to run you and miss oh well it's all right really you see there on the sign that's that's my name at the bottom there I'm Eva Lovelace oh are you yes you see actress after a brief intermission mr de mill presents act two of morning glory starring judy garland john pain and adolf manju you recognize that sound well it's mrs brown washing up the dinner dishes and right next door yes that's mrs allen doing dishes in her kitchen it sounds just about the same doesn't it and that's too bad because there's really a big difference in what those two women are doing you see one of them is using luxe flakes for her dishes and the other one is using well any one of a number of strong dishwashing soaps one look at those two pair of hands tells the story the luxe hands are soft and smooth the others are rough and red and unattractive typical dish pan hands yet those soft smooth luxe hands do just as much dishwashing as the rough unattractive ones it's the soap that makes the difference and changing soaps changing from strong suds to gentle luxe flakes and change those rough red hands back to their natural loveliness that has been proved by actual tests it's worth a lot to any woman to have hands she's proud of but do you know how little it costs to change from strong soaps to gentle luxe you can do it for less than a penny a day get the thrifty big box of luxe flakes first thing tomorrow and use it for your dishes every day after act two we've got a special bargain for all flower lovers have a pencil and paper ready you'll want to make a note of this now our producer mr. de mill act two of morning glory starring judy garland as evil lovelace john pain as joseph charidan and adult monju as louis easton six months have passed since evil lovelace failed in our broadway debut six long months of hopeful waiting haunting producers offices by day tossing sleeplessly in our boarding house bed at night her heart aching with disappointment and despair it's 11 o'clock in the evening across the street from the theater where blue skies is playing either sits at the counter or cup of coffee you want anything else miss no thank you just coffee that's all thank you okay good evening oh isn't this my old pupil mr. hedges how nice to see you i was just passing the window i thought it was you it's been a long time since you came for a lesson either well i i've been so frightfully busy you know how it is yes let me see the last time i ran into you you were uh oh yes i was rehearsing for the products of course it was only chorus work but i took the job for experience one needs all sorts of experience and besides there was a lull in the drama yes are you working now well no not at the moment anyhow here's your checklist you're i'll take that oh no you mustn't how much is it please five cents five cents is that all yes i i had coffee after dinner coffee of course here you are come along Eva i'll take you home oh but really mr hedges you mustn't go out of your way really i'll get a cab and by the way where do you live oh isn't that stupid of me i i can't remember the address you see i just moved i i didn't like the place i was in i see well until you remember you just come along with me i'm on my way to a party oh i'd love to but i i don't feel like meeting strangers our host isn't exactly a stranger it's louis easton are you sure you won't have any supper not just now please perhaps later mr sherdon all right you know it's nice seeing you again you sort of dropped out of things didn't you i've often wondered about you well i've been rather busy isn't this a delightful room mr sherdon i like that etching it looks like a whistler why yes it is and that's a lovely pen and ink of mr easton he's very attractive isn't he yes very i thought of him often i was sorry on his account i wasn't good in that part well it's always rather hard getting started my dear i brought you some food well thank you mr hedges but who cares about prosaic things like food oh no don't take it away there you are my dear looks awfully nice here here i'm taking care of this little lady am i right little lady go away charlie go away no no i discovered this little lady when she first came in here little lady champagne oh another do you think i sure sure sure come on i've never had champagne until tonight go on drink up drink up oh it it tickles doesn't it tickles she said it tickles hey charlie peter go on whenever you come along with me we'll have a bite to eat tickles she said it tickles oh what are we talking about i don't know how long this blue sky is going to run all about another month then we're going to take it on tour and after that well after that reader vernon is going to play the more and more part golden bow oh she could never do justice to that part oh what makes you so sure of that because she couldn't don't you see she just couldn't i know i read the play well of course it hasn't been translated yet live i read it in the original oh sorry do you mind please some some more champagne more don't you think i ought to that depends i'd say on what time you had dinner what about lunch oh lunch helps too oh look there's mr eason do you suppose he'd mind if i went over and spoke to him no i don't think so mr eason oh mr eason yes mr eason do you mind if i sit here beside you not at all miss lovely thank you mr eason i've got something to tell you mr eason i shouldn't be surprised if i am a great actress oh you think so i shouldn't be surprised either i'm a rotten actress or i'm a great actress i'm not just a pretty good actress sometimes i think i'm very very bad no good at all but tonight i think i'm wrong when i think that i feel wonderful mr eason not afraid anymore well i'm glad of that you see i i wasn't afraid not for a long time when i lost that part i thought it must be because i was a genius and geniuses always have a hard time then i began to get afraid maybe i'm crazy i got thinking maybe i'm not a genius then i said it's better not to think in this world where but to think is to be full of sorrow it's better not to think because i'm almost thoroughly convinced i'm a genius again miss lovelace don't you think you'd better have some supper no please listen i want to tell you i love your party mr eason i love new york except that broadway is too commercial but isn't new york a beautiful city i love it i love to walk and walk and look and look and frankly and if you walk very far you're on a country road with nothing but cornfields everywhere still there's something about it about those cornfields that gives you a feeling of being great and lonely i feel it now right here in my heart i tell you i know i know i'm a great actress i'm the greatest young actress living and i'm going to go on getting greater and greater miss lovelace you're making a fool of yourself a fool that shows how much you know you're talking to the greatest actress in the world and i'm going to prove it listen to this listen to be or not to be that is the question whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune either come outside please what are they laughing at soundless not a comedy it's a tragedy keep quiet keep quiet you hear evil if you think that's so funny maybe you think romeo and julie it's funny too give me that show off from the piano and everybody sits still you're going to hear some acting now listen oh romeo romeo wherefore out there romeo deny thy father and refuse thy name or if i will not be but my sworn love and i'll no longer be a cat to his but by name it is my enemy obese her mother name what's in a name that which we call a rose by any other name would smell a spoon so romeo would worry not romeo called retain that dear perfection which he owes without that part romeo doff thy name and for that name which is no part of the take all myself what's the matter evil what is it my head i feel so so funny i i feel as if i'm going to get some water somebody water here well that's one way of getting attention come on Joseph give me a hand we'll carry her in the library put it on over here that's it she'll be all right i'll have the maid come in and look out to her come on poor kid she probably hasn't had a square meal in a month or perhaps she's had just too much champagne that time sometimes happens to people how do you feel miss lovelace oh i feel oh here take another swallow of this oh no i couldn't i just hear here it's only coughing good for you oh thank you my head feels a little funny i'm sorry i spoiled your party mr easton don't be silly you didn't spoil it but where is everybody they've gone home you've been asleep for a couple of hours oh i'm so sorry but you've nothing to be sorry for i mean it did you did you like my juliet you're juliet i thought it was charming oh i'm glad i did want to prove it to you that i could really act when i flopped in blue skies i didn't mind so much for myself but i did mind failing you i'd worshiped you from afar for such a long time you i beg your pardon i'd worshiped you i did i like that i think you've done such beautiful things in the theater and you can't do beautiful things unless unless you think beautiful thoughts that's why i liked you because i knew you'd be like this kind and sweet no one has ever said that to me before you almost make me believe it you're very sweet either thank you now don't you think i'd better take you home oh no please not yet just let me sit here and and talk there's so much i want to talk to you about all right we'll talk go ahead you think i'm worth talking to don't you i hope you do it means so much to to speak to someone who understands things as you do don't you think you give me a little too much credit most people think of me as being pretty hard-boiled oh you're not though you may think you are too but down underneath you you're like a boy you bluster as if you're so very sure of things and you're not except your love of the theater that's why i've never been afraid of you you're much too young and much too pretty to be afraid of anything i am no mr eastern did you ever want anything with all your heart and have a horrible feeling inside of you that you were never going to get it many times i felt like that when i was just a kid in a roadshow came to town i used to hang around the stage door every night and once they let me do a walk on i tripped on my first entrance and yet you've succeeded in done great things beautiful things so can you weaver yes i know it's such a long hard road isn't it but i'm willing to work hard you can have anything if you work for it that must be true perhaps perhaps i could make the road easier for you if you'd let me then then you really think i can act i think i think you're the most beautiful the most charming creature i've ever met either oh why did you do that why did you kiss me why did you think i wanted you to no of course not but i did that's funny isn't it i didn't know i wanted you to kiss me until you did and you know i've always said an actress had to know everything and i never knew anything oh i feel so strange is this what they call love lewis because if it is i i think i like it eve yes eve i think i'd better take you home come in good morning sir good morning harvey mr sherrydon is here sir no come in joseph hello lewis how are you sit down sorry i had to get you over here so early but uh i need your help well i um i got myself a little involved last night what again yes i uh i don't know just how to handle the situation you can get yourself in the more jams lewis what happened nothing really absolutely nothing just the same i wondered if you'd see her for me and uh well tell her i've gone out of town or something i'm very much embarrassed joseph she's she's an awful little fool oh she's undoubtedly there she's she's got very romantic ideas not only about me about the theater too i wish i'd never given her that part in the first place i wouldn't be in this jam now what part what girl are you talking about that uh that girl eve eve love place certainly what did you think i was talking about well i i didn't know man the little fool thinks she's in love with me well how about it joseph i'd like you to see her for me sorry i can't do it oh come on i don't feel that way about it all you've got to do is to tell her that i'm out of town well that's very easy easy isn't it why don't you give her another part no my plays aren't cast like that you know it besides i don't want to see it again why bother about her at all because she's young she's half starved and she's on my mind i've made out a check for her here give it to her you can do your own dirty work give it to her yourself all right i understand how you feel no i i don't think you do wait a minute you're not going to tell me that you oh no no it's very funny isn't it i'm glad i can hand you a laugh once in a while i'm sorry i didn't know it was that way you're sort of romantic too yeah i i suppose so that's why i understand her you know what she's going through do you know what she'll have to go through yet before she begins to do the thing she has her heart set on doing do you suppose this is going to help her no i don't if you couldn't think of any way out i'll be glad to hear about it all right i'll speak to her i suppose the sooner she begins to look at things sensibly the better it'll be for her give me the check here you are i'll see you later i'll be in the office thank you joseph yeah sure joseph oh hello i wanted to see you oh but i can't stay i i only came down for a minute i'm going out i i just wanted to leave these flowers for him for mr easton they aren't much are they but they're nice tell them i brought them oh wait you you can wait a moment can't you well i i want to go before i see him of course it's only for a little while it's just that there's so much in my heart and i want to be by myself you understand yes i think i'll walk through the park alone where i can plan a little we'll do wonderful things together louis and i and you'll help us won't you you know what it's like it's like two rivers flowing through the same valley to the same sea his life and mine and now they're to flow together oh i'll make him proud of me joseph so proud i want to tell you it's strange how it's all happened yesterday i was alone and frightened really a little frightened and now of course it isn't because his work is in the theater or because he's important and can help me even if he'd never seen a theater i never wanted to see one i think i'd feel very much the same at least just now i liked him the moment i saw him you remember that day in the office years and years ago and you've always been terribly kind to me joseph thank you so much goodbye joseph was that either joseph uh what was that eve out here oh yes what did you tell her where is she is she gone joseph oh yes yes she's gone what do you care where she is this is the columbia broadcasting system mr. de mill and our stars judy garland john pain and adult manju will be back for act three of morning glory in just a moment meantime here's some more news about the lux rainbow garden offer it's the most exciting flower bargain we've ever had 10 first quality tulip bulbs for only 25 cents and they come to you now at just the right time to plant them yes right now in the fall is tulip planting time our lux tulip bulbs come from one of america's biggest and best known bulb growers they're the very same giant may flowering tulips that are listed in his catalog at a much higher price and they're yours for just 25 cents and one lux opening tab or one lux toilet soap wrapper they're easy to grow plant them now and along about next may you will have a rainbow garden of stunning tulips with gorgeous long stems and big blossoms and lovely 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you want your dealer has convenient order blanks remember the address is lux rainbow garden box one new york city this offer is good only in the united states now mr. de mill returns to the microphone curtain rises on the third act of morning glory starring judy garland john pain and adult module realizing that louis eston's interest in her was only casual either drifts aimlessly alone waiting for the break which never seems to come disillusioned and broken in spirit she's forced to take any job she can find in a cheap nightclub just off-broadway the manager is auditioning singers all right what do you say who's next you kid i i think so yeah what's your name people love lace well let's hear it sweet aren't you ready Sam yeah sure shake it up shake it up kid this lovely day will lengthen it will sigh goodbye to all we've ever had we have walked together now let you know was it all right mr. fine not bad not bad at all is that the kind of stuff you do best i i think so well killing the two hours looking for something a little harder oh who's next Sam maybe if i tried another song i gotta hear the rest of these kids right now i'll let you know sweet mr. fine i need a job i need one badly yeah so well if there's anything at all can you dance well not specialty dancing i mean regularly you know partners taxi stuff oh won't ever see maxie lee tell him i sent you all right who's next who's next hey eve if that old wolfman shows up tonight dancing with him will you well i thought i had to dance with anyone who asked me sure but kind of make a plate for him i've got a guy coming i'm kind of keen on all right i have to vote full of it ain't the fleet so how about a like fantastic this way i beg your pardon may i have this dance well that's what i'm here for oh how are you eve hello joseph what are you doing here slumming i came to see you can't we go someplace and talk oh i guess so sit down thank you you'd better order something that's part of my job too waiter yeah scotch and soda please right how did you know i was here well i didn't until the night i've been looking for you i finally got as far as your boarding house and the landlady told me about this job you had oh well of course it's only temporary you know i've always felt that experience is vital for an actress you've got to draw from the adventures in life and you're learning about life in this place oh yes every moment i'm rubbing shoulders with reality it's it's really quite amazing i can't tell you it's it's very interesting you've changed eve i'm a little thinner but i think i can afford it don't you no no i'm talking about your eyes there's something oh let's not talk about me what about you are you writing another play just the translation of golden bow i finished it finally goes into rehearsal next week with reader vernon i hope it'll be a success joseph eve when do you think you'll have learned enough about life to take another fling at the theater all right i don't know i really don't i suppose when the time comes i'll feel it deep inside me that nothing on earth will stop me look we're using a few people for atmosphere if you'd like to have something to do i'll be glad to fix it for you no thanks oh i know it isn't much but it might be better than this you know what do you say but oh well it's no use joseph it's no use i just don't care anymore but you will you will even on your toes now reader or reader come in hello reader thank you for the flowers joseph you never forget me in an opening not at all you don't mind if i go on with my makeup did you want to see us reader oh yes i did well uh lewis we've been together for years that's right that's a long time reader very long hasn't it surprised you that i've never asked for a contract no i've always given you what you asked for yes but this year i didn't ask for what i really wanted i see you mean you're asking for it now yes lewis go on i want a contract to play this part in new york and on the road i want a year's guarantee fifteen hundred dollars a week and fifty percent of the profits what really you've gone insane think it over lewis think it over but it's really curtain time you don't meet my terms there won't be any curtain now you listen to me you can't throw over a show like this can't i who's going to stop me i'll find plenty of ways to stop you i'll fix it so you'll never get a walk on in a road company try it do you think i need you do you think i need broadway why i could sign a picture contract tomorrow morning that'll make your paycheck looks like a cigar coupon why are you cheap little feeding ham lewis don't you call me a ham you're worse than a ham come on i want to speak to you get out of here lewis come on i'll show you i'll show you get out you show strength far i'll show that game listen will you she's a rat did you bring me out here to tell me that don't give in to i wouldn't i'd keep the theater dark before i do that oh you would well you're certainly generous with my bankroll listen as a girl right here in this theater i have a lot of faith in hedges and i've been coaching her as general understudy she could play the bernon part you mean you trusted open tonight anytime without a rehearsal she doesn't need a rehearsal she knows every line every move every gesture she's letter perfect who is she evil lovelace oh for the love of go away go away now look i'm going back and talk to venon but lewis he's got to be reasonable she's got to read her now listen get out very reasonable very i'd like to break her neck lewis if you'll only listen to me are you sure about lovelace i've told you see more yeah get hold of that lovelace girl get out of the theater in the vernon costumes give her a dressing room herself and get me a script a script we're risking an awful lot you realize that yes joseph says you can do it can you let her tell me can you do this part either yes all right is that costume finished tell her yes sir i'll have her second change ready when she comes off good this reason coming hold the curtain a few more minutes yes sir are you all set iva yes we'll be waiting for you hurry oh joseph here here let me see you joseph you look beautiful wait listen i i don't know whether i can go through with it iva i told him i could but i don't know he'll be he'll be watching me every move you've got to forget about him i can't i can't i've never even spoken to him since that night until he came in here and it was just the same but he's changed did you notice he he looks so pale and so tired and i'm tired i'm tired too i it's just come over me how tired i ever listen you've got to put yourself together when i wanted to kill myself when i didn't see him or hear from him then i thought i'll forget i'll make up for everything by making myself a wonderful actress you will be tonight but suppose i'm not suppose i'm not wonderful then everything's gone if i can't act there's nothing else i don't think i can act joseph i don't think i can iva look at me this is the thing you've wanted and struggled for and suffered for this is your dream coming true do you understand that everything you've done everything that's happened to you has just been leading to this moment the time you came into the office the way you met louis the way you feel about him now it's all part of it don't fail him don't fail yourself or me you just curtain are you ready miss lovely well iva yes i'm ready and that was why i loved you my friend ready with that curtain and that's why i have to leave you now for a while at least goodbye my darling curtain it's a stand we've never had anything like it they're yelling for let's take this call alone stay out there iva stay out look at those marvelous things are to perform she's better than bernie never hoped to be even lovelace where's she been all the time side please one side miss lovelace can't speak to you now get her in the dressing room joseph everybody please just a moment that crowd would tell you to peace leave him my dear you were made and never oh mr hedges you taught me the pupil is far far better than the teacher miss lovely yes may i congratulate you miss lovelace you were so beautiful my dear so lovely thank you shall i help you with your costume now oh no i i i want to wear it just a little while longer very well my dear the hedge is worth joseph taking care of the place i imagine shall i call him will you of course iva iva i'm at a loss for words you were a revelation to me oh i'm so happy louis i can't tell you how it made me feel to think i'd never given you a chance before but you did remember yes and i'm particularly ashamed to think i i let you get lost the way you did i should have taken better care of you oh let's not talk about that please well i'm never going to let you get lost again never oh louis i don't know whether to laugh or cry we're going to do great things you and i a great play every year your name and lights why it'll be the greatest partnership that the theater has ever known partnership yes i give her you're not going to put a return on me so soon are you oh no no i i just thought that oh i'm i'm such a fool such a silly silly fool i found him mr eason he'll be indirectly thank you i think the press is waiting to see you too are they they think you were quite wonderful my dear but but i'm just beginning i'm i'm going to make you so much more proud of me mr hedges i'm going to be so much more wonderful my dear so many people can be wonderful every year we see them these young people who come to new york with the idea of conquering the world it's amazing how many of them succeed too and then fail youth comes to the front youth has its hour of glory but so often it's just a morning glory a flower that's gone before the sun is high all right i wish you could have waited until tomorrow to say all this to me hedges is right either that woman ella the costume mistress do you know who she was 25 years ago she was the toast of broadway her name was ester forest ester forest i've heard of her well you don't hear it over now she was a morning glory but nothing must interfere with your career you understand me you've got to keep your head that's why you're coming to my office tomorrow and sign a contract to play this part as long as the public wants to see you in it that's why you mustn't take people too seriously the people who are going to be running after you from now on telling you what to play next living your life for you you must keep your health and your money and your head if you don't want to be a morning glory evil of late you'd better get out there louis right good night either good night tomorrow morning either at the office yes either what's the matter what well you look sort of crushed joseph i i was a great success tonight wasn't i yes a very great success yes and now it doesn't seem to make any difference it's all it's also empty why you mustn't feel like that i understand though do you i think so you've understood everything you've been so good to me joseph should i tell you why oh no don't please let me even though you know already i've loved you for such a long time either i know what you've been through i know how it's hurt you but it's not a hurt that can't be soothed by understanding and care and love you'd be happy with me you would either yes i i think i would either that's all i'm going to say to you now this is your hour your hour of glory yes yes it is oh joseph i i'm not afraid anymore they were trying to frighten me before trying to frighten me into being sensible but they can't do it i'm too happy i won't be sensible not now not yet you've got to let me be as foolish as i want i'll have a white ermine coat and i'll have rooms full of orchids and little apple trees and white violets and you've got to let me think i'm much more wonderful than anyone else in the world just now and you've got to promise not to try and make me sensible for i'm not afraid of being just a 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nice washables advise lux flakes than advise all other soaps put together so start tomorrow to save your pretty washables to keep them lovely longer the lux way now mr. de mill returns with our stars back to the footlights now come the three stars who put the glory and morning glory tonight judy garland john pain and adult mojo thank you mr. de mill it was really a thrill for me to be in morning glory it's a kind of a part i've always wanted to play and i congratulate you judy on a talent and can take musical comedy and drama like this right in your stride same here judy you know cb i personally don't see how hollywood could ever get along with that adult mojo to play the theatrical producer parts it's practically a tradition now well it's all right with me as long as i don't have to produce anything that's a job i leave cb at last a man who appreciates us i'll give you an epitaph at all here lies the only actor who like producers that's pretty ungrateful at all you sympathize with him and the first thing he wants to do is to write your epitaph get me out of this judy sure how about next week's play what's it going to be judy it's something to make everybody forget their troubles because next week our play is my favorite blonde and the stars are bob hope and and southern just picture bob hope trying to escape from a gang of spies with a vital military secret plus a beautiful blonde and i don't think you'll want to miss paramount's favorite comedian starring with an southern in my favorite blonde certainly sounds like a winner cb good night good night good night good night keep your eye on judy gentlemen our sponsors the makers of lux flakes join me in inviting you to be with us again next monday night when the lux radio theater presents bob hope and an southern in my favorite blonde is accessible to me i'll say good night to you from hollywood ladies and gentlemen a special announcement there are two superb new radio shows on wednesday night first bob burns one of 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