So, hello everyone. Today's session is on GitOps simplified and like already I skipped through majority of the introduction. Most of the things are already mentioned. You can check out my YouTube channel and Discord. Yeah, I'm working at Civo. So, Civo is a company that provides managed Kubernetes based on K3s. And there is a community, a Kube Simplifier that I started that you should definitely join. So, let's dive into the session right away. So, what is GitOps? So, we'll go through a complete flow so that we have a complete story why we did it, what is GitOps, principles and all that stuff. So, GitOps is not a very new concept to be honest. It's been there. It has been practiced for quite some time now. There have been organizations coming together to define set principles, best practices and making sure that it is done in a right way. So, when you talk about GitOps, everything is in Git.  So, your infrastructure gets created automatically, your applications gets deployed automatically. Now, since it is in Git, so it is version controlled, so everything will be a version deployment that gives you an easy way to roll back as well. And it maintains consistency between different teams, devs, ops, and other teams who are collaborating on infrastructure parts, who are collaborating on the application parts. So, all those things are there. Constant feedback, constant feedback is very important from the application, the metrics that is getting generated, whether the application is healthy, if any replicas goes down, then the constant feedback is important. Faster time production, yes. Since you are only managing with Git, so once the infrastructure is set up and you have GitOps tools installed, you have all the repositories in place to be watched by different tools, then the only thing you need is to kind of deploy on Kubernetes, sorry, the push to Git and it will be deployed to production with the pipeline that you have Dev stage and testing all the scenarios and going to production. It also brings a standardization across your organization because you would know the process of putting out a feature in production or in a particular branch or in a particular cluster. So, everything is in a GitOps way in managed, managed via Git and it brings standard. So, overall GitOps in very simple terms is everything is in Git, you have a Kubernetes cluster and you have agents that will be pulling information from Git and will be deploying clusters, deploying applications to the cluster, maintaining the different versioning of the application in advance stuff as well with which we'll be talking about later. Now, I told you previously like organizations are coming together to create, define the principles. So, the four principles of GitOps are it's declarative. So, all your infrastructure and applications are as code like we have already you know heard about Terraform, Crossplane and previous talks infrastructure as code. The thing is the true GitOps way of doing things is when you have your infrastructure also in Git repository, you commit to Git and obviously you have a control plane cluster. So, you commit to Git, your stuff running in the control plane cluster will be watching that Git repository and will be creating the clusters on the fly, will be deploying the apps to the cluster versioned and in-mutable. So, that's the second principle. So, again, Git is a single source of truth and everything, all the stuff is versioned. So, whenever you commit, you get that commit ID, you can use the SHA, you can use the some of the CI tools and like GitOps actions, GitOps actions and you can push those with respect to that particular SHA and then it will be deployed automatically because the GitOps is already connected. Pulled automatically. Continuous pulling of the desired states. I think in the previous talk you heard about drift and all those stuff and all these. So, that's where it fits in. Like you have to continuously pull the desired state because if you have told your application needs five replicas to run, if anything goes wrong, then your GitOps or the GitOps stuff that you have deployed should be able to pull that continuously or just observe or monitor the state, which is current, which is the life and the desired and compare those and apply if there is any differences. Continuously recycled. Observing the system and applying the desired state is very important when you talk about GitOps principles. So, it's continuously recycled. You can definitely define your interval times that you want to do with respect to those with different tooling as well. So, those are some of the GitOps principles that are in place. Now, why GitOps? I have a CI, I can, I have Git, I can build the image, I can push the image, the CI part has already existed for a long time now. But what about the deploy part? The deploying to Kubernetes is where the continuous delivery portion comes and regular pipelines, irregular pipelines, what we use? We use QCTL apply. If we write some basqueries or some cron jobs to do this jobs, what we'll be doing? We'll be doing QCTL apply. We'll be providing the Kubernetes access and the cloud credentials, some of the other way. But still, the monitoring will be missing, right? We again need to have some sort of mechanisms to monitor those application and make sure whatever we have in the Git repository, they are matching with whatever is there deployed in the cluster. And if not, then they do it. That is where GitOps is needed. But it is not needed in this way, like in the way where you are manually doing all these things or somehow calculating how to do this. So, there are tools that helps you in doing the GitOps the right way, especially when it comes to Kubernetes. But GitOps is not only for Kubernetes, it is for the traditional workloads as well, but majority of it is actually being used in Kubernetes. So we'll be discussing two tools today. One is Flux and one is Argo CD. So, first is Flux. So, Flux is a CNCF incubating project. It's a CNCF project and the V2 version came early 2022. And Flux keeps the Kubernetes clusters in sync with Git and automatic updates. All the points that I mentioned, it does that. So, it syncs from Git, image reference update in the YAML file, sending notification, managing Helm releases, managing customizations. So, you can have YAML files, you can have customizations, you can have Helm charts and everything can be in Git. And you have defined your cluster and cluster state and the applications in Git. Flux will be installed in your Kubernetes cluster. So, you will be bootstrapping your cluster and installing Flux. So, you will be bootstrapping the repository and installing Flux in your cluster. And that will be monitoring the GitHub, which is there, the Git repository and any change which is there, it will be deploying it to Kubernetes to some of the node, which is a worker node where your actual workload runs in a particular namespace. It supports multi-cluster deployment and all those stuff as well. Let's see on an architecture level how it works. So, you have Git, GitLab and you have a source controller. So, when you deploy Flux, there is a component called source controller, which is deployed onto the cluster. Now, source controller will take whatever is there in the repositories and it will talk to the other controller based on whatever is there in the in the repository, like the customized controller and the help controller. Now, you can use plain YAML files and not customized, but Flux automatically converts those YAML files on the flyer to customize and then they deploy. So, it heavily relies on the customized controller and then you have the help controller for the 100 repositories. So, Git manifest in the cluster, bundle them as artifacts by creating custom resources. So, we will be creating the custom resource for this. Flux also has something called image reflector controller and automation controller, which means it can monitor the repository. So, if there is a change in the image version, the tag, then you can it can automatically take that, push that to the Git repo and obviously Flux is already monitoring that Git repo. So, it will apply that changes to your communities cluster. So, this is how the complete cycle can be thought of when you are talking or thinking about Flux and how it is doing GitOps.  So, this is how Flux would be bootstrapping. You can use Flux CLI or the telephone provider. So, the command is simple. You first download Flux and you use the command Flux bootstrap, GitHub repository, give the owner repository, the branch, the path and when you do Ctl get ports and stuff like that. So, it will have the help controller, the customized controller, source controller, notification controller, all these will be there and they are actually as deployments and same you have the services from them and it will create its own directory structure inside the GitHub where it will be having the components so that it can talk to Flux. So, that's how Flux works and does stuff in a GitOps way. It's pretty interesting. Now, let's talk about another interesting tool which is Argo. So, Argo has many projects. First of all, Argo CD is one of them. So, you have workflows, rollouts and two other projects which are there like there are four. Argo is the main umbrella, Argo CD is part of that. So, Argo CD is not the only one which is there. But we are talking about Argo CD specifically because we want to kind of discuss GitOps. So, a typical architecture, what it will look like in today's demo will be a repository. In that repository, you have GitHub Actions. The GitHub Actions will be building and pushing a particular file to a particular folder structure inside the same repository. And you have Argo CD which is installed onto the Kubernetes cluster. Argo CD is pulling the particular directory's changes. So, as soon as there is a change in that particular directory done using GitHub Actions, Argo CD will pull that change and deploy onto a particular namespace on a node wherever the application has to be done. Picked up by the scheduler, of course. So, that's how today's demo will look like and that's how the Argo CD would be looking in the picture. So, GitOps, again, Git as a single source of truth. Argo CD is easily trackable, easy rollbacks. You can have disaster recovery setups. For example, you can have a cluster A, a cluster B. So, if a cluster A goes down, a cluster B, you can have like pointed to Argo CD and you can have apps of apps like the application set as soon as the cluster is registered. All those apps will be deployed onto the new cluster. You can have SSO, you can have multi-cluster. So, multi-cluster is very, very awesome when you talk about Argo CD and we will be talking about that. So, same application can be deployed across all cluster using something called application set. It is part of Argo CD from the 2.3 onwards. You can also define using customization files, different configurations of the same file to be deployed across different environments. So, you can do that using the customization and you can define what all files will be there for their stage and prod. Those are very powerful features. It has a very rich web UI, which is I think enough to do anything for the operators. It also has the CLI that is there. You can use the CLI for projects, for connecting the clusters, for adding the destinations and all that so on and so forth. For me, it is a matrix that you can use audit rates for app events and API calls, precinct and posting hooks, which are there. So, that's what Argo CD is. When it's working, it's very simple and similar to what we talked about. User or a CI goes and pushes to get. So, there is a repo server. Repo server is maintaining the internal cache of the repository because not every time you need the copy of the whole repository, you just need the Git diff. So, it does that. Then you have the main controller, which is there. It actually syncs from taking from the repository server and the live state from the API server and it makes sure that they both are remain in sync. Replicas goes down, it makes sure they are in sync. Any image change seen in the repo server makes sure it is in sync. Then it keeps on notifying the UI. So, the notification changes are instant. Like, if it goes down, then you'll be able to see in the UI that something is happening. Dev is getting applied, all that thing. So, you'll be able to see that in the Argo UI as well. And then, yes, it obviously deploys to there. When you are in the HA mode, so Argo offers HA mode installation. Very simple kubectl apply command is there that you can use for HA installation. It installs DEX, which can be used for authentication. Repo server is there. Notification controller, it started part of as Argo Labs. So, there are many awesome projects going in Argo Labs and once it reaches a maturity state, then that project is into Argo CD. So, again, from 2.3.3, I believe, or 2.3.x, notification controller also became part of the main Argo CD repository. And then the server that exposes the API and consumed, which is consumed by the CLI and the web UI. So, web UI and the CLI interacts directly with Argo server. So, you need to provide the server. And the app management, RBAC management, so Argo has its own RBAC where you can create users and admins and stuff like that. Auth delegation to external identity providers, YDC, listen to the GitHub web book events as well can be done. Also, you get application controller, uses Argo CD repository server to get the manifest and creates API server to get the live state. And it also has the Redis as the HA proxy. So, that was in the HA mode. So, now you know what flux is. You know what GitHub is, the GitHub principles, what flux is, where Argo sets in, how they work, both. Let's see some of the differences because that's also important to understand the differences. So, flux is incubating project and Argo is also incubating project. Flux is contributing by the 14 companies. Argo is actually much more. I forgot to change the number over here. So, it's I think more than 30 plus contributing companies. So, Argo CD is on a higher state of the contribution in terms of collaboration when you talk about bootstrapping. I showed you the screenshot of flux bootstrapping. So, that is used for install and bootstrap via the flux CLI. There is no native mechanism for bootstrapping, though there is an external project, open-source project by CodeFresh that can be used. But again, bootstrapping is simple. You just apply Argo CD to install and then you can use the CLI to kind of create projects and stuff, or you can just use the Argo UI which is there. Next portion is the reconciliation. Built on GitOps toolkit and reconciliation can be set per component. So, in flux, this is advantage where you can set the reconciliation on per object which is there. But in Argo, you can, it's a global setting which is there for all the application. Three minutes is by default and can be changed via the config map, but it is not per application. It's like the global setting which is there. Application deployment. So, I told you, flux always uses customize even if it's a plain YAML. Flux will create the customize on the fly. Whereas, in Argo CD, it detects whether it's customize or YAML and it will directly apply. It keeps it close to Qubectl apply. For Helm, flux uses Helm native Golang library. So, you will be able to use the commands like Helm LS and all that against your cluster. But Argo renders that and pipes it to Qubectl to keep it more native to the Qubectl apply way. And you cannot use the Helm CLI command against the cluster when you're using Argo CD. Argo CD has something which is called application sets to deploy many, deploy too many clusters. And you have control over the ordering using the sync waves and phases. That is a very powerful feature where you have the control over the ordering meaning that once you deploy, so you can wait for a particular file, a particular YAML file to get deployed and then you deploy the next one. So, the ordering is in your hands. It's obviously it's it's it would be more work on the conflict side, but it is possible and it gives you more flexibility and control. Secrets. So, again, there is a big difference in the secrets because flux provides a guide for managing encrypted secrets with Mozilla SOP, Seal Secrets and all the other stuff. Argo CD has plugins like vault and it totally leaves up to the user for the secret management which is there. RBAC, again a big difference. Flux, RBAC relies strictly on the RBAC capabilities of Kubernetes service accounts and all that stuff. Argo CD is very flexible and it has its own user groups mechanism at a very rich UI which is there. So, yes, Argo CD rich UI, Flux, no UI. It has an experimental UI but that's not official. So, we keep it to no UI. So, I hope you understood what Argo CD is where Flux is what GitOps is. Let's try to understand that with a sample demo. So, let me re-share my screen. I will have to share the complete window to be honest. So, I already have Argo CD deployed on to a Kubernetes cluster. So, that will be a very interesting demo because what I'm trying to show you is the true GitOps way of doing things. So, this is a repository, KCD Chinnai that you can find. There is, there are two repositories in it. One is called Infra and Infra, I will be defining what clusters I want using cross-plane that you already, I think, learned in the last session. So, it is good. So, what I have is, I have a Kubernetes cluster which is kubectl. Great notes. I already have a Kubernetes cluster in place and I have kubectl get pod, siphon, a. I already have Argo CD and cross-plane configured. So, I already have cross-plane, sorry, I already have cross-plane configured and I already have installed the Cvo cross-plane provider, the Cvo Kubernetes cross-plane provider which is already there and you can see in Argo system namespace I already have all the Argo components which are there, the repo server, server application controller and stuff like that. Now, the thing that we are going to show is, I have an Infra project. So, in Argo CD, this is the UI and you can create a new application which can monitor a particular repository. So, what I did is, you can go here and you can see the app details. So, this project is watching the KCD Chennai repository, the Infra folder. So, any changes made to the Infra folder will automatically be deployed onto this cluster. The manifest will be applied onto this cluster. So, what we'll do is, let's create a cluster. So, let me show you first what all is there already. So, Argo CD cluster list, you can see I have three clusters, but one is the in cluster where Argo CD is already there, one is the test cross-plane and one is the KCD Chennai. Both of these are here and my in cluster is already running in some other region which is there. So, let's do cluster three. I already have created a live demo example because this is a live demo. I hope it works. So, I have defined the spec section and all that stuff with respect to Siego Kubernetes which is there. So, I will do git add, git commit, live demo, git push, origin main. So, it has committed to this particular repository. So, you can say the cluster three .yaml is committed to this repository and it will automatically sync from this, but what we'll do is we'll do a manual sync because we don't have time to kind of wait for that and here we can check, you see, we'll get Evo Kubernetes. We'll put that on watch and we'll apply actually. Yep, you can see the live demo cluster is already getting created. So, let's do... Hi, Zain, just to make a quick check, we have two more minutes to complete again. Yeah, actually, the session got started late, so I had prepared for 30 minutes. Okay, okay. Yeah, how many minutes? Yeah, I didn't take five more minutes. Five more minutes. Okay, so much. Yeah. So, the next thing which is there is the... I'll quickly tell you because that is very important, the deploy folder which has the application set .yaml. So, this is what I was telling. In Argo, you can define something of kind application set and it can be deployed to any number of clusters. So, when you set the generators, what it means is all the clusters that you add to Argo CD will have this application deployed once it's added. So, it will automatically deploy this particular application. And this application will be looking like this. So, that's a sample application which is there. It is coming from this particular repository. So, overall, what will be happening? Any changes made to this repository, there is a GitHub action which will be changing the deploy folder. And after that, any changes, obviously, the application set internally creates application. So, any changes made to this deploy folder will automatically be synced with all the clusters which are there. So, if I go to the applications, I can see in all the clusters which is there. And like the KCD Chennai, this is how the application will be present. So, let me just refresh this. Okay. Again, in the view of time, what will happen is once the cluster gets created, you need to run this command which is, again, this just is available. I will put all the links in the description. So, you have to Argo CD cluster add and you have to add cluster pointing to the kube config file and give the server name. So, what this will, this command will do is it will add the cluster to Argo CD and since we have the application set which is there. So, as soon as the cluster will be added to Argo CD, you will be seeing a new tile which will appear for a new cluster and the application, this application will be deployed onto that cluster. So, this shows you the power like I can have, I can create 100 clusters, have a mechanism to get the kube config file and add to Argo CD and then Argo CD will automatically deploy the 100 apps to all the clusters and you can see the amount of, you know, effort that will be saved and this is just one service. Suppose you have 50 plus services, so you can see how this will work. Yep, that's that's pretty much it that I have to cover for the for the presentation and demo.


So, it's time again to cover another heretical statement or a few heretical statements made by our friendly neighborhood demon slaying, Heretic. That is our good friend, Isaiah Saldivar. Now, one of the things, and this is the reason you're going to see why he really ought to speak to somebody, you're going to see or maybe why he probably ought not speak to someone, at least publicly, because he says some things that, honestly, guys, it's not that difficult to overcome. Now, there are some things, okay, let's look at, let's delve a little deeper on the, at the face of it. It might look, there's some merit, but when we look at some of the things he says, like, this is, this isn't even close to what you're saying. And so if you notice the title of the thumbnail, it says that Peter had a demon or Peter was possessed and Legion was a believer, Legion was a Christian. Same thing. And we're going to cover that plus some other people that he said had a demon or was possessed and other people who are supposed to be believers who, you'll see, you'll see. And it's problematic because if people aren't reading and kind of the way he puts it, if you're not really reading and paying attention, it might slip by and say, yeah, you know what? You've got a good point there. But this is why discerning Bible students ought to go back and investigate, like we say, be a Berean and go back and look and check out what was actually said. So I want to start off with the first passage, by the way, I'm tired, second live stream for the day. But I want to, I want to look at the passage, I want to look at the video. And then as we go through the video, stop and check out the passages that he brings up. This is starting off with Peter being a believer because he believes that a believer, a Christian can have a demon. And he cites three examples of Christians who are demon possessed or have a demon. He cites Peter, he cites Judas, and he cites Ananias. So let's start off and we'll stop and kind of critique and go through the scriptures as he goes. Matthew 16, Jesus said to Peter, Satan get behind me because Satan had influenced and had entered Peter and Peter being a believer. That's in Matthew 16, John 13, the Bible says that Satan entered Judas. So before we go to Judas, let's deal with Peter. So let's go to Peter, Matthew 16, let's put on the screen. And from that time, Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed and be raised up on the third day. Peter took him, that is Jesus, took him aside and began to rebuke him, began to rebuke Jesus. God forbid it, Lord, this shall never happen to you. Well, obviously, this is clearly why he came. As a matter of fact, Jesus has already told them this is the reason why he came. And so he reiterates this again to them.   And so the question is, was Peter one demon possess? Jesus did say, get behind me, Satan. And so what do we mean by that? By the way, it's a, it's a phrase that we also use to, we'll say the same thing. And you want to know something? The way we say it to other people, even if we're just saying it in jest or we really mean it, get behind me, Satan, is actually the correct way. It's, it's the heart, the spirit, the letter of it, all of that. We're saying it correctly. But now a couple of questions or a couple of things. One of note when Jesus makes this statement, what did Peter not have? Because we believe, I've said this before, that a born again believer, that a believer with the Holy Spirit, a Christian, of course that's what a Christian has to have as a Holy Spirit, ever since the founding of the church, we don't see anyone having a demon or having a demon cast out of them. And when I say by the founding of the church that the different people groups receiving the Holy Spirit up to Acts 19, after that we don't see anyone having a demon, a Christian having a demon or having that demon cast out. We don't see Paul or John or James or Peter or Jude or anyone saying you ought to cast these demons out of these people that are having these issues. And we're going to see how that might be kind of problematic because of what some other people say because if this person has a demon, well then surely that person and that person, as a matter of fact, we all have a demon if that is the case. So Peter, what Peter did not have was the Holy Spirit. Now that might not be sufficient for some people, a sufficient of argument. But again, Peter did not have the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit had not been given inside of man to reside at this time. But let's put that point to the side, although it is an important point. Also when we say that how the enemy works, how the enemy moves, we've always stated that clearly there is demonic activity. You all would agree, right? That there is demonic activity, that Satan is still moving around. Jesus said that Satan desires to sift you like we. Peter tells us also that he's roaring, that is the devil is roaring, walking around like a lion, seeking whom he may devour. So we know he's active. And what does he do? Can he pick us up and throw us? No, but what does he do? What he's always done, whisper to us. And he plays on our own desires anyway. From the beginning, we see him doing so with Eve. He didn't whisper into her ear or speak to her about something that she had no desire for. She saw the fruit and saw that it was desirous, appeasing to the eye. And so, you know what? Let me go ahead and nudge her. Let's see what happened. So that's what he does. Now, does he do it to non-believers only? No, he doesn't believe us as well. He does the Christians as well. And so it will come as no surprise that the devil will not try to talk to anybody. He's going to talk to whomever. He spoke to Jesus. He whispered to Jesus. He tried to influence Jesus. So what is he going to try to do with the rest of us? The same thing. The difference is, can he occupy or control or demonize us? No, he cannot. So we don't doubt or we don't have any issues with the devil. And this is probably what's happening here with Peter, that the devil has said something to him. Now, he desires to sift Peter and sift us all like wheat. And so we know that's going to be an issue. So I want to bring up something else. When we look at the work, as a matter of fact, let's put it back on the screen. I want to show you guys something. I want to show you guys something you all tell me if you notice something about this passage. Verse 22, I'm sorry, 23, but he turned to Peter and said, get behind me Satan. Get behind me Satan. Let me pull this side up over here. I want y'all to see something. Here's the Greek. He says, get behind me Satan. Hapage, excuse me, hapesomu satana. Get behind me Satan. There's something that you may not pick up. So I'm calling you Satan or as an adjective, as describing, for example.  Why am I bringing this up? Because feast your eyes on the screen here. I just wanted to type in the word Satan. And I want you to notice something all throughout the New Testament. You're gonna see a pattern with the word Satan or satana in the Greek. I want you to show you this. Right here, he says, go Satan. Now the reason, now I want you to look up to the right-hand side. On the right-hand side, the word is satana. To the devil, that's Jesus or the Bible is not speaking directly to the devil.  If he's describing the devil, if he means the devil, actually the devil. Versus if he's calling someone or saying adversary. Now, the word means the same thing, but I just wanna say when he's talking about someone like Peter in this case, he's calling him adversary or he's being adversarial. He's going to use the word Satan or satana without the direct article, the definite article. But when he's referencing the creature, the being, the great deceiver, the devil, he is going to call him the Satan. Are you with me? So you're gonna see the definite article and I'm gonna show you that in just, as a matter of fact, I'm gonna show you that right now. So Matthew 12, he calls him, look to the right-hand side. If the devil or the Satan, the Satan casts out Satan, notice what's in front of it. Satan, it has satanas, but right in front of it, it has the definite article, ha, satanas. Then we see it again, satanan, and the definite article in front of that, tan.  So when we're talking about the being, the person Satan, you'll see the definite article, the Satan. When we're talking about a person and saying that they are being adversary, then it will not have the definite article unless he's speaking in this case earlier in Matthew when Jesus was speaking directly to Satan. Are you with me? That's just kind of how grammar works. Are you guys with me? Let's look at a few more examples. Obviously, we see the example in Matthew 16, where he uses Satan without the definite article. Then we look at Mark 113. He says, and he was tempted in the wilderness 40 days being tempted by the devil, the Satan, go to the right side, you look at the word satana, and it is preceded by the definite article, the, too. And so I'm not gonna go through all of those, but it's just helpful to know that when he's referring to Peter, he's not calling Peter, he's not speaking to the devil. He's not saying the devil is inside you, Peter, because it doesn't say that. He doesn't say the devil entered him. Now, had the devil maybe whispered to him, because it sounds good, wait a second. Jesus, you're not gonna, no, no, you're not gonna die because this is the same Peter who when Jesus was taken by force in the garden, what does Peter wanna do? Take his sword.  This is what I came for. So what does Peter wanna do? He wants to stop him. So I need you all to understand, so clearly without question, Peter was not, Peter was not possessed. We're gonna find out that Jesus had already given them the ability to have the evil spirits, the demons subject to them. So it would seem odd for Peter, who has been given by Jesus the ability to have the demons subject to him or to them now to be possessed. That would be a contradiction, Mr. Saldavar. This is why I say that you really need to be trained. I know you started off your ministry pretty young and you've been going that 100 miles an hour since then, but you've been going 100 miles an hour in the wrong direction. You've been doing it all wrong. You do need to be taught. You really do. You need to get out from Benny Hinn, from Daniel Adams, from Sid Roth or whomever restaurant because you're making basic mistakes. And these are the kind of mistakes that can hurt people.  He speaks of Judas also being possessed by the devil. Another Christian, another believer, another follower of Jesus, another Christian, another in Matthew 16, John 13. The Bible says that Satan entered Judas. Another Christian, another believer, another follower of Jesus. Now some of you right now in the comments, you're gonna say, Isaiah, okay, you gave us two definitions. So he's bringing up Judas. It's a big problem with using Judas. There's a huge problem with using Judas because one, first of all, Judas also does not have the Holy Spirit in him at the time. But number one, none of us are saying that Judas didn't have a demon. None of us are saying that Satan did not enter Judas or the devil did not enter him. None of us are saying that. What we are saying is Judas was not a Christian. Judas was not a Christian. He is called the son of perdition. He's prophesied as the son of perdition. He is going to do what he was prophesied to do, but let's just be clear so that we can know that Judas was not a believer. Let's go to John chapter 13, verse 10. Jesus said to him, the one who has bathed, now this is after Jesus is washing their feet. Jesus said to him, the one who has bathed does not need to wash, except for his feet, but is completely clean.  That is, if you have been bathed, that means you're completely clean except for your feet. So this is Jesus explaining to Peter and he says, except for his feet, but it's completely clean and you are clean. Speaking of Peter, but look what he says, but not every one of you. So he says, not every one of you is clean. If you've been clean, there's no need for you to worry about it, but there is one of you. I'm gonna say, we know that it's one of them because he says, not all of you are clean for he knew who was about to betray him. That is why he said, not all of you are clean. So it's clear Judas was not clean. The others were, the one who was gonna betray him was not clean, that being Judas. Now, the passages are also clear. If we go to John 18, nine, he says, this was to fulfill the word that he had spoken of those whom you gave me, I have lost none. Meaning that all of the ones that were given to Jesus, he hadn't lost any of them. But what about Judas? What Judas clearly was not one of them that was given or else Jesus couldn't make this statement. I haven't lost any of the ones that were given. Okay, and so as we saw earlier, Judas was not clean. He had not been cleansed by the Lord. He's not clean. The other 11 were. So Isaiah, this is, I won't say this is elementary, but it's sophomoric. It's pretty easy to figure out that Judas was not a Christian. Now people, there are two groups that want to say that Judas was a Christian, two groups. And they only wanna say it for theological reasons, doctrinal reasons. One, if you wanna try to prove that Christians or believers can have a demon. The other one is if you wanna try to prove that Christians can lose their salvation. Well, Judas didn't have us, it was never saved, so never lost it. And he never had the Holy Spirit in him. He was never a believer. He was never a Christian. He was never an actual true father of Christ. He was never clean. And so therefore that argument fails as well.  Let's look at the other person that he brings up and see if that also matches.  But what about after they received the Holy Spirit? What about in the book of Acts? There's no believers in the book of Acts that had a demon wrong. Let's go to Acts 4.36. Joseph, the Bible says, a Levite from Cyprus whom the apostles called Barnabas sold the field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles feet. So in Acts 4, the disciples are starting to sell their property and put their property at the feet of the disciples. Now what he's doing is he's building a case. In Acts 4, the disciples came together, the people came together and they would sell their stuff to have everything in common. So he's gonna try to say that the next person that they mentioned in Acts 5 is also one of them. And so this particular person is a Christian like the person in Acts 4 or the rest of them in Acts 4. Now in Acts 5, the Bible says now a man named Ananias together with his wife, Sapphira also sold a piece of property. So we have two people, we have Joseph sells a piece of property, lays all the money at the feet of the apostles. And now we have Ananias and Sapphira in chapter five who the Bible says also sold a piece of property. And the Bible says Ananias with his wife's full knowledge, okay, kept part of the money for himself and brought the rest and put it at the apostles feet. But Peter said, now here's where I want you guys to pay very close attention in Acts 5. This is New Testament book of Acts, someone being demonized. But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? And keep back part of the price of land. So let me give you the plain explanation of what Peter said. Peter said there's a spirit-filled believer deliberately chose to lie to the Holy Spirit and in turn, himself was full of an unholy spirit. This is what Peter- Now I want you to listen to how he put that. I want you to listen to how he put that. He said, Peter said, a spirit-filled believer. Let's play that again and then let's investigate the scriptures again. The one thing we all have an equal measure are these scriptures. We all have the access to the same word. So let's go and look and see what he says. Hey, he's part of the price of land. So let me give you the plain explanation of what Peter said. Peter said there's a spirit-filled believer deliberately chose to lie to the Holy Spirit and in turn, himself was full of an unholy spirit. This is what Peter is saying. He's saying Ananias, why would you lie and open yourself up to an unholy spirit? Now there's a couple of problems with this. Matter of fact, there's some huge problems, huge ramifications by what he just said. There's something here that just... So what we're gonna do is let's go actually to the scripture and let's see what it actually says. Starting in matter of fact, let's go to verse, let's go to chapter four and let's start in verse 36. Thus Joseph, who was also called by the apostles, Barnabas, which means son of encouragement, a Levite, a native of Cyprus, sold a field that belonged to him and brought the money and laid it at the apostle's feet. But, but... Now my question is this, when people say that Ananias was a believer, based on what do you say that Ananias was a Christian? Because he's not called that, though others have been given a title, been given a term, just like Barnabas, who was also called by the apostles, he was a Levite, a native of Cyprus. As a matter of fact, now we know who Barnabas is and so we know that this person was a believer, but that doesn't say the same thing about Ananias. But before I get to my point, let's finish reading this and see what it says. But a man named Ananias with his wife, Sapphira, sold a piece of property and with his wife's knowledge, he kept back for himself some of the proceeds. Go to verse three. But Peter said, Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds? You didn't have to, it's his point. Why have you done this? Why have you contrived this deed in your heart? Now, before I continue, I wanna make note of a couple of points. Again, the enemy whispers speaks to everybody, Christian and non-Christian in life. Now that doesn't necessarily mean that you have a demon because the enemy speaks to you. If that were the case, if it were the case that the enemy speaks to you, then Jesus was possessed. The enemy speaks to everybody, that's his job. The one thing we can say about the devil is he is diligent. He is on it 24, 7, 25 hours, eight days a week. The devil is on his job, right? So what it doesn't say though, it doesn't say though that the devil entered him. It says, why have Satan filled your heart? Why has Satan filled your heart? Well, okay, so I take that as that's the devil speaking to him. And you know what, let me contrive this because he says later on, he says that you have contrived this deed in your heart in verse four. He says you have contrived this deed in your heart. You have not lied to man but to God, now the reason why I'm pointing this out, why is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? There's a big reason for me pointing this out. I wanna see if you all see the same thing, why I'm pointing that out because, well, let me just go ahead and say it right now. Is it the devil that's doing it? Is it some demon that's possessing him to do so? Now it states that Ananias himself contrived it. Yeah, I like what you say God's soldier believing what the devil says. That happens a lot. So verse three, I mean, number three, the third point about Ananias is this. The Bible doesn't speak about the devil entering his wife's heart. The Bible doesn't mention anything about his wife and the devil or any sort of demonic activity. Does it? No, it doesn't. So the question is his wife was guilty of the same charge, but no mention of her either having a demon. So what's the implication here? The implication is that maybe this wasn't, and I believe without question, this was not a demon possession. You wanna know why? You wanna know why I say this was not a demon possession? Can anybody guess as to why I would say, and there's something really obvious, something strange about if this is a demonic possession, something happened. Something is off. It would be the first time in Bible history of this demonic activity of something happening. Can anyone guess if this were a demonic activity or if this was demonic oppression, possession, demonization? This would be the first time this happened. At least that I can think of. Since when Isaiah Saldivar or anyone else? Since when has God killed a person for being demon possessed? Every other person that had a demon got delivered, not killed. So if it was the demon who was doing this, if this person was possessed, then what Peter would have done like he's done always or Jesus has done or anyone else has done, they would have just delivered him. Wouldn't have killed him. The demon would not have, that it's the first time in the Bible that a demon gets to get a person killed. Now, don't get me wrong, folks suffer the consequences and we spend a lot of time listening to the demon, but truth be told, yeah, the demon's only, the demon, the demonic influence that's there is only playing off of what we want to do anyway. Let's be clear.  No, you saw him or her and like, you licked your lips. You looked around and the devil said, go after it. Yeah, well, he didn't, James tells us how this works. This stuff is conceived in our hearts. We think about it, it just kind of marinates. And then here comes old Satan. Again, the adversary, this adversary and the Bible is clear when we determine if we're talking about the versus adversary. If we're talking about an adversary, like he called Peter adversary or the devil. Are you with me? Be the first time in history that the, at least in the Bible history that we know of that a person was killed by being demon possessed. And if you can't help being demon possessed, the way they say, they say anyone is open to being demon, listening to demon slayers, anyone is open to being demonically possessed, include me or him. That means if I'm demon possessed, I run the risk of being killed. Wow, okay. And again, I'll always say this again. How do you know that Ananias and Sapphire are actually believers? Who said they were? Now, I wanna go to the next clip. This is where he calls a legion a believer, a Christian. When your whole thought pattern, your whole mindset is demon, demon, demon, demon, demon, demon, demon. Well, when that happens, you like the little boy in the sixth sense. You see devil, you see demons everywhere. If you eat on ice cream and the cone falls to the ground, demon. If somebody runs a red light in his exit, demon. If the boss fires you for being late five times in a row, the boss is a demon. No, you're just late. He sees demon everywhere. And he wants to make his point so bad. So he's also going to say that legion also who, yeah, we know he had a demon.  Why they call him demon. But he says that he was a believer and a believer is a Christian. Okay, let's just, let's let Isaiah talk. Even Jesus, really? That's the devil's greatest lie. His favorite doctrine is Christian can't have a demon because it keeps the people. Now, I want to stop because it's hard to let it go. They keep saying this stuff that it's the devil's favorite lie that a Christian can't have a demon. That's the devil. How do you know that's the devil's favorite lie? That's like when, what's the Todd White, Mike Todd, when he said the devil's favorite sin or tool or whatever is gluttony. Can you just do us a favor? Can you stop making it up? Can you just let the, how about this, Isaiah and everyone else? How about we just agree the text is superior to our opinion? How about that? That's just me. I think if we live by that, I think we'd be okay. But let's, let's finish letting Isaiah speak. People have gotten bondage. Deliverance, type this in the chat. Deliverance is the children's bread. Now I gotta stop there. You keep hearing this phrase, deliverance is the children's bread. You guys help me out.  Tell me, is the children's bread deliverance or is deliverance the children's bread? Where do you get that from? I know where they get, where they get it from, but does the Bible ever say that deliverance is the children's bread? Is the children's bread the deliverance? I just, I wanna know. Deliverance is the children's bread. They keep, as a matter of fact, that was our whole theme in that conference they had with Daniel Adams. Deliverance is the children's bread. Yeah, there is a question. There is a $64,000 question. If it's the children's bread, is it white or is it weak? Is it gluten-free? I would like to, now I know where he gets it from. He gets it from the Canaanite or Syrophilician woman who talks about the bread crumbs, but let's finish letting him speak and then let's, again, go and examine the scriptures. And if you're gonna say, well, the people in the Bible that God delivered didn't believe in Jesus, really? They didn't believe in Jesus? The man in Mark 1 was in a synagogue. Now, he's gonna rattle off some things, so let's deal with that. He says the man in Mark 1 was in a synagogue and so that necessarily means that he was a believer. I don't even think I even pulled it up. Matter of fact, I didn't even pull it up. You know why I didn't pull it up? Yeah, I did, yeah, I did, yeah, I did. No, I didn't, no, I didn't. There's a reason why I didn't pull it up.  I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Trying to wash my tone. I'm trying to behave. Let me ask you guys a question. Because you were in a synagogue, does that make you a believer? That would mean that all of the Pharisees, the sogyes, the scribes, all the people that Jesus called out, they were actual believers because they were in the synagogue. How come Jesus did, Jesus should have known this then because at 12, he's in the synagogue teaching. Jesus, you should have caught on Jesus. But maybe Jesus had a demon. Maybe the demon slaves are gonna say that. And it's not far-fetched to think that somebody's gonna say something that silly that maybe Jesus was possessed. After all, we got a guy going around saying that Jesus was out of order for 85% of his life. Who knows? Who knows? But you would have thought that Jesus would have known that people in the synagogues are believers. That's why they're there, Jesus. Silly, I say, do better work. That just, that didn't compute. Because he was the man in Mark one who clearly had a demon. Jesus cast it out. Because he was in the synagogue, he was a believer. Believer in what? What was he a believer in, Isaiah? Oh, what about the man at the tombs? The man at the tombs ran to Jesus, got on his knees and started worshiping Jesus. Okay? So don't say. I like this one. Cause I've covered this before. I almost wanna think this was, see, sometimes I, you know what? Let me just say this selfishly. I think that some of these responses, these videos that he puts out, I want, I really, I really, there's something about it that's making me think that he's saying this to rebut me. Again, we know that he knows who I am. He's, he's, he stayed in the video. He didn't like, he stayed in the video. He didn't like me. Why don't you like me, Isaiah? Why don't you, why don't you think that it's a demon in me and just cast a demon out of me so that you and I can be friends? That, I think that, Isaiah, I think that would be cool if you actually did that, if you set me free. Isaiah, if you delivered me since Jesus was not able to do so, since the Holy spirit was not able to do so. So Isaiah, Saldivar or Pagani or Daniel Adams or Vlad or Michael, any of the other guys, Marcus, you guys can do it by Zoom either as well, so why don't, deliver me. Isn't there a song called deliver me? Deliver me. My, my faith is failing, deliver me. Tony said, I'll fly them to you. I would, you know what? I would love to meet Isaiah. I keep, I keep looking out to see when these guys are coming to Dallas. It's going to be fun. If I, listen, if they come to Dallas and I don't have, I pray when they come, I don't have something already scheduled. You've got to come to the Dallas area. You have to. At some point in time, you're going to have to come to this Dallas area. Pagani or Daniel Adams or, wait, whoa, Mark, whoa, you didn't know that? Wait, Mark, you didn't know the power of the demon slayers that they actually do deliverance by Zoom? Well, they had to, you know, the pandemic hit and they couldn't, they couldn't cast this pandemic demon out. So in order to not lose business and not lose faith, we'll cast demons out by Zoom. And so they, yeah, just, just go to Google or not Google, go to YouTube. And not now after type in Zoom deliverance. And they'll pop up. You'll see people coughing up, spitting up, because that's where, that's how demons come out. All demons come out by spitting through the mouth. So, and I would say, I would think that if they had any sort of love or compassion, Isaiah, you should cast a demon out of me. And then you can like me because I will know for a fact. That's what I think you ought to do. But now, let's get to my favorite one. That's why I think that Isaiah is doing this in response to me because I've stated that demons don't go to a spirit field person. Demons don't look for the spirit of God. Demons do not go searching for Jesus. They don't go searching for God. And they point to this one to say, well, yeah, see the legion went out looking for Jesus. No, he did not. Or no, they did not. They did not go, let's go to the passage and let's look at what it says about legion. And let's break this down. Whereas they said, this is the man in the tomb. Mark chapter five, they came to the other side, that is Jesus and his disciples, to the other side of the sea, to the country of Garrison S, excuse me, or the Garrison Sings. And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit. He lived among the tombs and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. For he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart and he broke the shackles in pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains, he was always crying and out and cutting himself with stones. And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and fell down before him and crying out with a loud voice. He said, what have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me. Now, a couple of things. One, the demons know what the history books state or not the future, the prophecies, they know what's gonna happen.   And so here's Legion, and we've seen this before. The demons will say, hey, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. It ain't time. It ain't time to go. Are you here to torment me right now? Now, what are the demons going to do when they see Jesus? You're not running from him. They know, they know. The demons know who created them. They know that Jesus was the one all things were made by him.  That's not what it was. He just saw him off, maybe across the street, a few feet away, a few yards away, a few meters away, who knows? I said meters for you folks in Canada and in Europe. See, I'm international global for a few meters away, a hundred meters away, you saw it, whatever. The demon didn't take the person. Legion didn't take the person. Let's go find Jesus. Let's go to church. Let's go online, search for the nearest church where they're having mass deliverance on that day. Let's get our ticket, go sign up, go there, clap, sing, praise, read the Bible, listen to the sermon.  That's not what demons do. Demons act to fool all the time. They party, they get down. And so here comes Jesus.  Let me go on up to him and ask him, hey, you here already? Tell you what, Jesus, can you send me out? So this is not a person. Now, he makes a statement that because Legion fell down, he bows down, that that means that he is a believer. My question's gotta be then, my question's gotta be then, if you bow down before him, does that make you a believer? That's all it takes, huh?  No faith required, just bow down. My question is, is that even biblical? I would think that if you're gonna say something, how about just be biblical? How about just be biblical? The Bible says, let's go back to him, he sees him and he was, Jesus then asked him, what is your name? He said, Legion, for many demons have entered him and they begged him not to command them to depart into the abyss. Now, what's the issue here? Jesus, who he is, everything is subject to him. Now, certainly, we don't know it because we just hard-headed, but the demons know. They know everything that there is to know about Jesus. They do, they do, which is why they can't be saved. Probably, I don't know, I'm just, not that part I'm making up, I don't know, I'm guessing. They know all this about him and they can't be saved. I don't know why, we just know that they can't be saved. They can't be, there is no deliverance for, the Lord did not die for them for their sin. They are death and they are doomed and they know so. So, anyway, let's continue. After Legion, there's some other folks who also have a demon that are also believers. Say, well, they didn't believe, brother. You're telling me the Syrophoenician woman who came to Jesus, she comes to Jesus and says, will you please deliver my daughter from these spirits?   And the demon left that girl that very instant. You're telling me that she didn't believe in Jesus. She wasn't a believer, brother. What do you mean she wasn't a believer? Her faith made her eligible to get her daughter delivered. Okay. The Catenight woman, the Syrophoenician woman. She was a believer. I'm sorry, I'm just reading someone's comment. So the Syrophoenician, the Catenight woman was a believer. By the way, this is where they get this whole issue that deliverance is the children's bread. Let's go to it. Matthew 15, 21. And Jesus went away from there and withdrew to the district of Tyre and Sidon. And behold, a Catenight woman from that region came out and was crying, have mercy on me, oh Lord, son of David. My daughter is severely oppressed by a demon. A couple of things she says, have mercy on me, oh Lord, son of David. She's giving all these adorations, these things. Well, the demon did the same thing too. Stating those things does not make you a believer. Now, can anyone tell me, before Jesus showed up there, what was he doing? Before Jesus shows up at that spot in Matthew 15, 21, what was he doing? What had Jesus been doing? Jesus, who is always on his job, he was busy. He was healing folks. He was setting captives free. He was delivering people. He had been doing stuff. People knew about that. People heard about that. That's why I say, Mr. Saldivar, and you other people, if you are legitimately delivering people, if you are legitimately healing people, you don't have, I'm one of those guys who I never say that why don't you go to the hospital and empty it out. I don't say that because, yeah, they're right. No one in the Bible goes to the hospital and empty it out. But there's a reason why people in the Bible don't go to the hospitals and empty out the hospitals. One, there weren't hospitals like that. But more to the point, if there was a location for sick people to be, they would always make their way to wherever the apostles were or in Jesus's day, they would make their way to him. Sick people want to be healed. And if they know the word is out, that Jesus is healing people. Blind people are getting their sight. Dead folks are coming back to life. All these things. So what then does this Sirefination, this Canaanite woman doing? She hears about it and she goes to him because of what he's done. Jesus even told them, he said, yeah, I don't come for, you ain't coming for the gospel. You're not coming for what I've come to do. You come for what I can do for you. I fed you. Some of you all want to see these signs and so forth. You all just, that's all you want instead of him. We know that's the case because they were saying all these nice things even the week before he died, before his crucifixion, Hoseanna, Hoseanna the next week, crucified. So yeah, at that time, were they believers? No. Now, did some of them become believers? I'm pretty sure some of them did. I'm pretty sure some of them did, but that's how people are. And so Isaiah has no basis for saying that she was a believer simply because she came and believed that Jesus, she believed Jesus could heal them. How many other people came to Jesus believing that he could heal them? Because my question is, what do you mean by she believed? She was a believer. There were 10 lepers who also believed that Jesus could heal. 10 were healed, one came back and thanked them, the other nine left. There are a lot of examples in the Bible where someone came to Jesus believing that he could heal because they hurt legitimately. Even the Pharisees believed that Jesus could heal. Now they would blame it on something else, but even the Pharisees questioned the man who they knew was healed of this blindness by Jesus. The man kind of turns the table and says, y'all ask me about Jesus. Y'all want to be one of the disciples? They got mad at him. So it's clear that just because you think that Jesus can heal you, which you can, that means folks that did so were believers. That's clearly the case. Amen? Now I want to also cover, did I cover? I want to go to the next portion that he brings up today. That's the whole thing. We see Philip, which is the only evangelist in scripture who after preaching the gospel, the Bible says to the people drove the demons out of them. Now, if you automatically get saved and every demon leaves, then why would Philip spend his time and energy casting out demons after he preached the gospel? It's because you don't automatically get delivered once you get saved. That is why Jesus commands us to go drive demons out of people. Now, I'm going to play that again. There was a close-up chest, yeah, there was a real close-up. I'm going to play that again. I want you to hear what he said, how he said it. And then I want to compare what he said that happened and we'll go to Acts 8 and we'll see, no, either you're lying or either you're lying or you can't read. You're being deceptive or you're just confused. We play it again. I want you all to key in on the things, the points, the bullet points that he has about this. We see Philip, which is the only evangelist in scripture who after preaching the gospel, the Bible says to the people drove the demons out of them. Now, if you automatically get saved and every demon leaves, then why would Philip spend his time and energy casting out demons after he preached the gospel? It's because you don't automatically get delivered once you get saved. That is why Jesus commands us to go drive demons out of people. Now, we'll break this down bit by bit, bit by bit, bit by bit. I want to answer these questions. Trust Jesus, John 14, success. Just leave Isaiah alone. Why in the world would I do that? Please tell me, why in the world would I leave him alone? Am I really messing with him? I'm messing with his horrendous doctrine. I'm messing with his false gospel. That's what I'm messing with. Why would I do that? Am I told anywhere biblically to leave him alone or to leave Alexander alone? Paul literally said beware of Alexander. Why would I do that? I'm not gonna do that. I care more about the people. And this is not for him. He's never gonna answer, but I care about the people because I want, because he's making points that need to be countered. You wouldn't tell the police officer or the authorities, listen, you already arrested the guy once, leave him alone. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My bad. My bad. I was joking. And the reason why I caught on to that because a lot of people say that. Just preaching. Well, we are preaching gospel. I'm sorry. My apologies, brother. I apologize. I apologize. But again, people do say that a lot, a lot. Just let them go. Just let God deal with it. Well, wait a second. We can't do that. So anyway, I wanna look at the actual passage. I wanna break down what he says as he goes. And so for the third time, let's listen to what he says. And let's just, he's got a lot of problems with what he's saying. We see Philip, which is the only evangelist in scripture who after preaching the gospel, the Bible says to the people, drove the demons out of them. Now, so he says Philip, who is the only evangelist in scripture who after, after he preaches the gospel, drives demons out. His point is that once you're saved, you can still have demons. Now, this is why, this is why I, maybe, okay, Isaiah, I see why you don't wanna have the conversation because there are these wide gaping holes for us to run through. You said he's the only one in scripture. So if we can show that he wasn't the only one, meaning that there's no one in scripture who's done that, then that nullifies your point. You said, which is if your point is true, that Philip is the only one in scripture who we see after giving the gospel, then cast out demons. So the question is, or the point that he's making is, you give the gospel, they become saved, and then you cast the demon out. Michael LeMay, thank you so much for the soup chat. I appreciate that, my brother, I really do. So is that true? I love it when Isaiah Saldivar gives a point to one of my points, when he responds to one of my points, even though he's never gonna say that he did it directly to me, but this is the point I keep making. I'm not the only one that says that. I'm not the only one that says that, but I know for a fact. I know for a fact because a buddy's told me that he checks out what I say about him. I know that Pagani, I know for a fact. There's no if ands, but I know for a fact. I didn't hear it from the grapevine, but I heard it from reliable sources. They do, and so that's fine. So my question is, prove us wrong because if I'm wrong, I want to be wrong. I mean, I want to be right. If I'm wrong, I want to be right. I don't know why the song came into my head. If loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right. I'm sorry. When you kind of got a little bit of old head in you, these songs just pop up. It's the, maybe it's the demon in me where of course I need to have it cast out. But if this is the only example, once we get away from that example, if we get rid of that example, then you don't have another case, do you? So he states that a person is saved and then can have a demon cast out of it. Okay, let's finish listening to Isaiah. If you automatically get saved and every demon leaves, then why would Philip spend his time and energy casting out demons after he preached the gospel? So now we've got to show or see if after he preached the gospel, after the chronology, preached the gospel, then Philip spends his time casting out demons. The text needs to say for us that Philip gave a gospel and then after that spends his time casting out demons. I can't wait till we go to the scriptures. I mean, I'm almost ready to go there now, but I just want to finish letting him hang himself. It's because you don't automatically get delivered once you get saved. That is why Jesus commands us to go drive demons out of people. Okay, and at the last point, does Jesus command us to go drive demons out of people? Let's go to the scriptures. This is why, this is why I, truth be told, I really do like Isaiah South of R.  Look at, they said that. He said, a ton, a ton. And I don't, I can't, but this one I just had to. So let's go ahead and go to Acts 8 and let's see if Isaiah just missed the text. He just misunderstood or intentionally, unintentionally either way, if he got it right. So in Acts 8, now those who were scattered went about preaching the word. Philip went down to the city of Samaria and proclaimed to them Christ. So he's preaching Christ. And the crowds with one accord paid attention to what was being said by Philip. When they heard him and saw the signs that he did, for unclean spirits crying out with a loud voice came out of many who had them and many who were paralyzed or lame were healed. So there was much joy in the city. So we see he preaches the gospel and these demons, these spirits, unclean spirits come out. All right, y'all see that. He preached the gospel and these unclean spirits come out. Isaiah says that after they received the gospel, after he preached the gospel, then he went about the rest of his ministry, casting out demons. Well, let's see if we see, let's see if we find that anywhere. Verse nine, but there was a man named Simon who had previously practiced magic in the city and he was amazed saying that he himself was somebody great. They all paid attention to him from the least to the greatest thing. This man is the power of God that is called great. And they paid attention to him. But verse 12, but when they believed Philip as he preached the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized both men and women, even Simon himself believed. And after being baptized, he continued with Philip and seeing signs and great miracles performed. He was amazed. Now, when the apostles as Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent them to Peter and John who came down and prayed for them that they may receive the Holy spirit for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they laid hands on them and they received the Holy spirit. Now, when Simon saw that the spirit was given through the laying of hands by the apostle, he offered them money saying, give me this power also so that anyone whom I may lay my hands on may receive the spirit. But Peter said, may your silver pairs with you. He says, you neither have neither part or lot in this verse 21 for your heart is not right with God. Repent verse 22, therefore of this wickedness of yours. And pray if possible that the Lord pray and pray to the Lord that if possible the intent of your heart may be forgiven. Verse 23, for I see that you are in gall of bitterness and in bond of iniquity. And Simon answered, pray for me to the Lord that nothing of what you have said make him upon me. Verse 25, now when they had testified and spoken of the word of the Lord, they returned to Jerusalem preaching the gospel in the villages of Samaria. Verse 26, now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, rise and go toward the South. So Philip leaves Samaria. Is there any passage in that it tells us that after he preached the gospel, he folks believed, oh, by the way, they hadn't received the Holy spirit yet. But even at that point, is there any more mentions of unclean spirits or demons being cast out? There is not. So that's not correct. That's not correct to say that here's an example of a person who preached the gospel. These people become believers and then they have to get delivered again by demons. That's not there. That's patently false. That is incorrect. Secondly, oh, by the way again, they hadn't even received the Holy spirit. Once they received the Holy spirit, once they received the Holy spirit, then Philip was gone. Philip is dispatched further to the South. Secondly, more importantly, where did Jesus? Where did Jesus ever command us to go and drive demons out? Where did Jesus ever, yes, Cameron, an unclean spirit is a demon. Where did Jesus ever command us to drive out unclean spirits or cast out? Where did Jesus ever command us to cast out demons? Answer nowhere. Now, I might be wrong. Can you guys in the chat help me? There's over 500 something of you guys. Can you all tell me if there's a part somewhere in the Bible that I might be missing? Where Jesus told us to go and cast out demons? I've got a couple ideas where they think he says so. I've got a couple ideas where they think he says so. Can anyone tell me? Cause I'm just, I'm curious. Now, we see times where he says he gave the disciples. He told them, Olin said, never relations one one. He tells them to go and cast out. He tells them the disciples to go and cast out. We talked about this the other day that every time that Jesus told them to go and preach the gospel, he told them to do so by giving them power to cast out demons. But he never gave anyone else that ability. He never told anyone, he never told anyone else. He never gave anyone else that command to go and cast out demons. He doesn't say third Corinthians. That's it. He never did so. Now we'll see. He says, I'm sending out the 12 and he gave them the authority to cast out demons. Now there is a passage. There was a passage. Now, does that mean that you have to be given, you have to be commanded to do so? I wouldn't say so. But at my point is he literally said that that's why Jesus told us command, commanded us to go and drive out demons. Where did he command? Where did he command us to do so? Even if you were to take Mark 16, the longer ending of it as true and as belonging, doesn't say to go and do it. It says that these signs will follow. There's no command to go do so. And oh, by the way, I think he's even that, the person, the copyist who is putting that in. I think that what he's really saying is, he's speaking to the apostles themselves. That's who he's speaking to, because that's the only group that those apply to. And I think, again, the longer ending of Mark, I don't believe that it belongs. But if it did, it's clear he's speaking to them because they're the only ones that that whole thing follows, the only ones. But there's a passage that they refer to to make it seem like we all have this gift that he's given to all, he's given this ministry to all of us. In Luke chapter 10, verse 17, let's go there. He says, the 72, this is after Jesus sent them out, the 72 return. Matter of fact, yeah, the 72 return, let's start there. Return with joy saying, Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name. Now, there's also another time where Jesus calls, and I saw Satan and again, he uses the, the time Satan, where he's using the Satan. So he's referring to the Satan, not an adversary. Let me read something real quick. I wanna make sure that I've got this correct. Yeah. So I think we, matter of fact, let's start in verse one of that chapter as well. And let's see if he tells, when he sends the 72 out, if he tells him to do so as well. In chapter 10, verse one, he says, and after this, the Lord appointed 72 others and sent them on ahead of him, two by two into every town in place where he himself was about to go. And he said to them, the harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly that the Lord of the harvest has sent out laborers into the harvest.  Carry no money bag, no knapsack, no sandals, and greet no one on the road. Whatever house you enter first, say peace be to this house. And if the son of peace is there, your peace will rest upon him. But if not, it will return to you and remain in the same house, eating and drinking what they provide for the laborer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house. Whenever you enter a town and they receive you, eat what is set before you. Healed the sick in it and say to them, the kingdom of God has come near you. But whenever you enter a town and they do not receive you, go into the streets and say, even the dust of this town that clings to your, to our feet, we wipe off and get you nevertheless know this that the kingdom of God has come near. I tell you, it will be more bearable in that day for Sodom than for those in that town. Let's drop back down to 17. He says that when the 72 return, look what happens with Joey saying, Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name. I got a question. Even the 72, did he ever, did he tell the 72 to go out and cast out demons? And I'm going somewhere with this. Did he ever tell even the 72 to go out and cast out demons? I need to know. I need you guys to help me. No, he did not. But Corey, they said the demons, even the demons are subject to us in your name. Well, the question has got to be then, what does it mean for the demons to be subject to us? What does that mean to be subject to? I think I can help us out. Obviously, we got to go back and look at what they don't want to look at, which is the Greek. Let's go look at the Greek. The word for to being subject is two words, hypo and tasso. Hypotasitai, which means to be subject or to submit. And so even the demons submit to us. Well, that kind of makes sense. Now, is it possible that they did cast demons out? It's very possible. I wouldn't doubt it. I would not doubt it. In other words, though, the demons behaved at his name. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Let me hold on guys. Let me drink of my NFL sponsored mug and think about this for a second. Hmm, I got a thought coming in. The thought is this. They were subject to us at your name. Even the demons are subject to us in your name. Whose name? Jesus's name. What's that mean? Well, it's that name that makes the demons in full subjection. They submit, oh, doggone it. Here come Jesus. Here comes his authority. Here comes, which is why they go to him and they bow down, which is why they are fearful of him. Which is why they want no parts of him. Think about this for a second. They want no parts of Jesus who eventually comes and resides in us. They want no parts of God who eventually comes and lives in us. These very same demons are subject or submissive to the people, the 72, who don't have the Holy Spirit in them but are coming in the authority, the name of Jesus, even they behave. And so the demons are subject to them. But when we become believers, when we get the Holy Spirit in us and he lives in us, the demons are no longer subject to us. Please, Isaiah Saldivar, make that make sense. How is it that these 72, who by the way, when the going got rough, they got going, who by the way, when it got tough and Jesus looked around and saw Peter in the game and said, are you gonna leave me too? And Peter said, where are we gonna go? But the 72 had already kicked rocks. They had already left. All these folks left. Now, do they come back? Probably, maybe, I don't know. But the question is these 72, these 72 had the ability to have the demons in subjection to them. But us, who have the Holy Spirit in us, we don't have that ability. We need Isaiah and his buddies. I'm concerned. I'm concerned, because it doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. And there's the problem. When you go and you make stuff up along the way, then it's going to be hard. Someone says, let me answer this question. Oh, hold on. Ira says, explain Romans 715 as it relates to a demon and sin. Am I not a Christian if I struggle? Do I have? Oh, you're speaking about Paul. Well, if you're not a Christian because you struggle, well, then guess what? Then Paul ain't either. Let's go to Paul's chapter. Let's go to Paul.  Because remember, if Ananias lied and died for it, you mean tell me every time we lie or have a sin, that means it's a demon or then Paul's in trouble because Paul's got some issues. Paul says that he struggles. He says, for I do not understand my own actions. This is Paul. The apostle Paul, our apostle, for I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now, if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law before it is good. I agree with the law that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. Uh-oh, wait, wait a second. You mean tell me you can be a believer and still have some sin? Yes.  Yes. Certainly. So if Paul, who is, we haven't seen the Holy Spirit on us like we saw it on him. He's walking by in his shadows killing people. We haven't seen that. And so, and he says, I have sin in me. The sin that dwells within me. So yeah, take heart. The fact that you are bothered by it indicates something. The fact that you are bothered by it actually indicates something, but all believers struggle. We all do, it's just, it is what it is. You got, as long as you got skin, listen, you were delivered from a lot of things, you weren't delivered from this. This part you still got, you still got to conquer this flesh. This flesh, I can tell you one thing, the flesh still likes fleshly stuff. It still loves sin. If you are heterosexual, it still likes the opposite sex. If you like eating, it still likes ice cream and cookies. It still gets angry. It still is selfish and defends itself. That's what the flesh does. And so, look what he says. For I know, verse 16, 18, I'm sorry, I know that nothing good dwells in me that is in my flesh, for I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. Well, amen. Thank you, Paul, for letting us know how hard it is and that we ain't alone. Thank you. I like this. Thank you for the super chat. I like the deliverance ministry. It's Cory's bread. I do eat a lot. I listen. Yeah. You know what though? Sometimes I fast from a, there are times I have gone, except for yesterday. Do you know I've gone about two weeks and covered one heretic? It's not my main thing anyway, but it's hard to see this. Like, are you serious?  And the sad part is people are falling into it. And again, again, people are going to go to this stuff in droves. People are going to, people are gonna follow this stuff. There's always gonna be more people in following after the deliverance ministry and after different heresies than after true authentic teaching. It's gonna be that way. Soco Street 2018, thank you for the super chat. I appreciate that. What I do, or what any of the other people do, any sound believers who place their faith in Christ, whatever your ministry is, it's never gonna be as large as a false ministry. Never. It never. Never, never, never, never. The scales of this world are tilted in favor of the enemy. He's the guy of this world. And Jesus, Jesus. Paul says the time will come when they will not endure a sound doctrine, but they will have itching ears. Itching ears mean they're not gonna flock to sound teaching. And so because of that, it's gonna be more and more. We are going to easily become more of the minority without a question. Miss Dina says, people have an appearance of God, but deny his power. Demons are stronger than the Lord said. Ace, don't go on it. Wait a second, wait a second. I got some buttons over here. Let me, let me just push. I never push, let me push it. Having a form of godliness, but denying his power. That's literally what these guys do. You deny the power of the gospel, deny the power of the Lord in you. And so now I need to be delivered because the Lord was not powerful enough to do it when he came to reside in me. There's the problem. This is why this is a bad gospel, which is no gospel. And so I won't do it every time they say something because I just don't, I don't have the ability, sometimes the stomach or the desire. There's a lot of other things that I want to cover. And I really am, I really am, I'm starting to have this itch. I'm starting to have this Hebrew-Israelite itch. I really am. Like, cause these guys are just, by the way, I went and saw one of the guys. What's the guy, the guy, Powell, he was on a live stream after the earlier live stream. And he does not want to debate anybody. Why, what do we have to prove?  And that's what happens when a wolf or a false teacher or a heretic, I don't have to prove anything to you guys. I'm a, what did, what did the guy say? I'm a grown man. I don't call me a child. I just want to have a conversation about the scriptures. What's childish about that? But if you have no leg to stand on, then you don't, you don't want to know, you don't want people to be like in the Wizard of Oz. You don't want to look behind the curtain. And that's really what this amounts to. And so, guys, just be diligent. Keep looking at this stuff. And matter of fact, whether real work begins and is done is you all saying, oh, you're welcome, Doki. You all saying to your friends and coworkers and family members and other folks who say and think that this stuff is legitimate. Make sure you say, that's not, I hope you think, I hope you know that that's garbage.  I'm sorry, matter of fact, Marlin, thank you. I couldn't see if that was a L or a I, Marlin. Where's the Merian? Oh, go on it. Ah, look how bad my eyes are. Wait, look, look, watch this. Put these glasses on me, that'll help. Nope, I still can't tell. Is it, is that Marlin or Merian? I cannot, wow. Okay, hold on, let's put the other glasses on. Let's go with the other glasses. Nope, this is how you know you're getting old. Somebody heal my eyes. Okay, but the point is that passage is the passage. First down four, greater is he. That's him, the Lord, God, spirit. Greater is he that's in me, believers. Then he, the devil, the enemy, then he that's in the world. Where is he that's in me, the greater one? Where is he at, in me? Where's the one that he's greater than, outside of me in the world? And he can't get in, because the one that's in me is greater. And how is he the enemy going to bind that strong man? Cannot happen, cannot happen, won't happen. So yeah, thank you for reminding me of that. Thank you for reminding me of that. I need to get my eyes, my eye demon. You know what's funny? People are saying Merian or Marlin. I can't, listen, when you guys are telling me what it is. Oh, okay, thank you. Seagway, Seagway made in capital letters, Marlin, okay. You guys are saying Merian, Marlin, Marlin, Marlin. If you put it in lower case letters, it still looks like Merian, but then you, okay, Marlin. Thank you, brother. I appreciate that, because that's an all-time great passage. I think it disproves what they're saying. You're not going, who can overcome the power of God? And if he's in you, then that's it. Vlad says, this is not that Vlad, this is the good Vlad. He says, the Lord's spirit left Saul. Then the Lord sent an evil spirit to Saul that caused him much trouble. Yeah? When did we cover that? Well, a week ago, I think a week ago, about the spirit, even in the Old Testament, the spirits coming upon people. December, do me a favor. I'm sorry. I honestly have not, thank you for the super chat. I honestly have not been following it. Send me, you know what, send me another email. I'm gonna see the email because I have to go and answer somebody else's email who is supposed to come on tomorrow, and I can't, I gotta move that. So send me an email, and I'll make sure that I look forward to December Cook. Now the last time I did that, I got a ton of emails because folks say, oh, since you're looking at this person's email, you're gonna see my email. I'm so far behind, but I'm gonna rectify that to some degree going forward in just a few more weeks, guys. So guys, not just me, as the guy said, the deliverance ministry is my bread, let it be yours too. The stuff is easily debunked. It really is. It really is.  Now that doesn't mean that you're not immune to the enemy trying to offer obstacles or try to influence you or whisper to you. No, you're not immune for that because the Bible does say that Satan does desire not just Peter, but also us because he says he's like a lion seeking whom he may devour. That's all of us. And so we are to be on guard. We understand that our warfare is not against flesh and blood. We understand that this is a spiritual war. We get that. And the first step is to be a believer, become saved, to place your faith in Christ. That's the first thing. That's the main thing. There's no big coincidence that we never hear anyone in the Bible telling after the church was founded, after the people groups received the Holy Spirit from Acts 19 on, we never see them saying, you need to go out and cast these devils out. All the problems that we see in current, all the problems in Ephesus, all the problems in Galatia, all the problems all over. We never hear them saying, the problem Timothy, which need to do Titus anyone else, just go cast those demons out. James didn't say, if anyone is suffering, call for the elder so they can cast a demon out. No, he says if anyone is suffering, call for the elders and let them pray. Maria Rose, thank you for the super chats. That's what he says. So how about we take Jesus' advice rather than somebody who just got saved and started his ministry weeks after he, I mean, I'm not listening. He starts his ministry soon after he got saved, which means he didn't know anything. He's learning on the fly and learning incorrectly and does not want to be held accountable by anyone else. And so Roger, thank you for the super sticker. Thank you. I think it's best to listen to the scriptures, reading for yourself, learning for yourself and then grow in it. Amen, amen.