Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening. Today is our last episode of A Nation of Immigrants in 2022. Last week, this show received the Show of the Year Award from Singtan, Hawaii. We want to thank our colleagues, Mike in particular, and Jay and Hailey and Eric at Singtan, Hawaii for your hard work and recognition. Every other week, we started this show with this famous quote from President Reagan. You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany, Germany, or Turkey, or Japan, but you cannot become a German, a Turk, or Japanese, but anyone from any corner of the earth can come to live in America and become an American. This program features the lives of immigrants, knowledge, diversity, and inclusion. Created by Singtan, Hawaii and the Kingsfield Law Office. We invite renowned immigrants and a descendant of immigrants to discuss their life stories, immigration adventures, and the contributions to cultural diversity. Today's guest is our very good friend, Professor Varyn Mercy. Welcome, Varyn. Thank you for having me on the show. Oh, it's our honor. And if you don't mind, I'm going to read a very short bio of you, and I will have some questions for you. Sure. Dr. Varyn Murphy is a professor in the Department of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He teaches transnational Asian history and researches Chinese and Japanese intellectual history. He's the author of the political philosophy of Zhang Taiyan, the resistance of consciousness, and co-editor of the challenge of linear time, nationhood, and the politics of history in East Asia, and co-editor of our companion to global historical thought. He has published articles in modern intellectual history, modern China, frontiers of history in China, and positions Asian critique, and is currently working on a project, pan-Asianism, and the conundrum of postal colonial modernity. By pure serendipity, Professor Murphy received his MA in philosophy from the University of Hawaii and his PhD in history from the University of Chicago. Thank you so much for agreeing to be our distinguished guest, Murphy. This is our last episode in 2022. I'm so thrilled to have you because you are my favorite historian who studied intellectual history of China. We will get to that part momentarily, but please tell us how your family settled in the United States. Okay, so my father and mother both were from South India, right? So my father grew up in Hyderabad. My mother is from originally Tamilian, but grew up around India in various places. But my father came to the United States as a postdoc at Columbia University in mathematics. He's a mathematician. And my mother went to Columbia to do her master's in nutrition. And so they met over there, and that's how they met. And then eventually, they moved to Chicago where my father got a job. I remember Matthew Perz and in Chicago. And I remember you borrowed your father's car and drove me to from Champaign to Chicago or Hero Airport. And it was an implicit snowstorm. I still remember that. I think I'm deeply in your debt. And I hope I can repay your generosity and tremendous friendship, you know, sometimes so. Well, and I think I met you in Champaign-Urbana, right? And but when I met you, we were both, you know, grubs, but I was curious about your childhood. What was it like to grow up in Chicago? And as an Indian American second generation, so, but your parents are academics. So what was it like to grow up in Chicago with our academic parents as a second generation immigrant? Yeah, I mean, I think it was a little bit sometimes a little confusing because I did not, Jessica, I was born in Chicago. We moved back to India when I was about two weeks old. And then I came back. I came back when we were, came back when I was five. I think we moved back around when I was 10. And then I came back when I was 16. So I think there was a constant sort of negotiation between the two cultures. And I think that was really what characterized, I mean, often feeling that you don't fit in in either place, right? And I think that I think was the, I think what often characterized my childhood. Yeah, that's what we typically say living in parallel universes. And it could be an advantage because you can see, you become the sort of a bridge between these two cultures, at least in your own circle. On the other hand, I fear that people like you and I, I didn't move back and forth when I was a kid. But in my 30s, I just spent half time in China, half time in the United States. And I end up like, you know, this joke, self-deprecating joke, I always tell my friends, including you and Yuhang, that my Chinese friends think I'm too American to be Chinese. And my American friends think I'm too American to Chinese to be American. And what's your comment on that, living in parallel universes? No, I think that's very much how I felt. But I think with India and the United States, there might be a slight difference. I think because when I went to India and I went to high school in India, being American came with a certain symbolic capital. You know, a lot of people want to know about America. Oh, yeah, what's the new thing? You know, what's the new music they're listening to? And this and that. And so I would have, and I didn't always fit into American society, but I was trying, I became more American when I went to India. Because, you know, once I go to India, I got it, I tried to, you know, use that. Oh, yeah, yeah, of course, I know all about America, you know, that kind of thing. And then, and then I come back, right. And so because we really moved back when I was 16, and we didn't go back again to India. Then, you know, what I noticed, I mean, in the US, and this was the 1980s, it might be slightly different now, there wasn't that among the high school students and so on. There's not no one really is interested in India. I mean, so you're so old, anything that you have, like I'm, I'm, yeah, always had an interest in Indian music. And nobody's interested in that. I mean, there's no, so that I think is a very, the global inequality is quite, quite significant. China today is a little bit different, because there are, there is an interest in China from the, from the side of the government for various reasons. But still, I still think it's different. Like you go to China and you can find, you know, a lot of stuff on, you know, American culture and so on, this and that. But you can't really find, it's not the same in, in terms of the US, right? In terms of their, you know, popular culture and so on. I don't think it's, it's China plays that big of a role. Yeah. Very, very good comment. Last week, some of my, some of my students were debating whether or not China could replace the United States as a number one or superpower. And the debate inevitably leads to the discussion of soft power, meaning the cultural power. And it appears that at least in the United States, the Korean culture is much more powerful and, and it's super than the other Asian cultures. And, but I would see it also argue that the Indian culture has played a very significant role in the American society right now. And it probably is quite different from when you were a child. Do you agree? Indian culture has more and more. Could you say a little, could you say a little more about where you see the Indian culture playing a role? I mean, I can see a little bit of Bollywood and stuff, but I don't know. Bollywood and politics and well, obviously that will be Indian American, but I, I see Indian restaurants everywhere. And would that be, yeah, there's Indian restaurants. That is not really. Yeah. But I mean, that is nothing like, I mean, think about when I was in 90 in China in 1995, think about the amount of people who went to see the movie Titanic. You know, I just don't think you have that level. I think China would love to have that level of influence in the United States. But I think we're still, it needs a long more, a lot more time. There's something about Hollywood because it's not just, it's not just one country like China, but it's the rest of the world too. Like certain things like Madonna and so on. It's just all over.  But I don't think we have something similar with respect to like a really important singer or something like that in, in China.   Who's that? I don't know. I agree. Yeah, that's true. Well, you met, you have a strong interest in China. Obviously, his wife is a Chinese American professor, a terrific art historian. And we've been family friends for decades. But tell me how you two met and what shared academic interest you have and brought to you together? Well, so we met in around, I think, 1992. And I was in Beijing as an exchange student. And at that time, that was when I was in Hawaii, actually. I was in Hawaii and in, in, you know, philosophy department at, at the University of Hawaii. And I got a fellowship to go to China to study, I think, both Chinese and about Chinese philosophy. And so I was there in Beijing University. And she was working at the Beijing Art Museum, you know, Wang Shousu, which is not too far from, from Beijing University. And, and so we met, we met there. The actual circumstances was I was actually there was a class for, you know, people who wanted to learn like conversational English. And I was teaching that. And she came, she came to just sort of see what it was like. And so we met over there. Lovely story. I love the museum. The museum is just absolutely fantastic. And I remember, and your wife worked at the Nature Field Museum in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Give us a fantastic tour. Well, let's focus on your research. And you had a master's degree in philosophy and a doctor's degree in history. And could you just tell our audience? And what was your main focus? And what project you're working on? So you did publish a book about Zhang Taiyan. I thought that many educated America ever heard of Zhang Taiyan before. Yes, yes, yes. So, so, so my first degree was in philosophy, right? My master's, I took a master's in philosophy at Hawaii. And there I was very interested in comparative philosophy. So China and, and the West. And then I, you know, and I guess, so I was trained as a philosopher, and then I switched to doing history. And I did, I went to Chicago to do my PhD in history. And I did intellectual history, because in many ways, I'm like a philosopher, masquerading as a historian. So I'm in a history department now, but what I, what I often do is basically more philosophy. And so yeah, I worked on, I did my dissertation. And my first book was on Zhang Taiyan, who is a revolutionary thinker in the, you know, early 20th century leaching period. And what I found really interesting about him is his reading of Yogachara Buddhism, which he used in order to develop a kind of critique of Western modernity, right? So, and he was also of course, very influential in terms of the 1911 revolution, which is often called the Republican revolution. So, you know, the more famous person there, of course, is Sun Zhongshan or Sun Yat-sen. But he was also part of that. And that's how people know Zhang Taiyan. But I wanted to uncover really his more philosophical side, you know, his critique of one of the institutions of modernity, such as the state or evolution and so on. So I've always been interested in sort of, you know, Asian intellectuals using their tradition to sort of reflect critically on modernity. So my next, my second book, it was Aizan, which just came out this year. It's called, I think it's called The Politics of Time in China and Japan Back to the Future. And there also I talk a little bit about Zhang Taiyan. But I mean the basic idea when I use the term back to the future, of course, making reference to that old movie. But also this idea that, you know, all these people who want to go back to tradition, I mean, they're going back to the tradition, but they're often doing so to go to a different future, a future that is better than the one that they see today. And that's often connected to, you know, issues of capitalism and so on. Yeah, that's fascinating. That's absolutely fascinating. You know, Zhang Taiyan was obviously a very important figure in modern Chinese history. And there are a huge influence in modern China. So same as Zhang Taiyan, there were Liang Jichao, there were, you know, Hu Shi, there were Lu Xun, and there were many, many intellectuals in China and, you know, clustered during the May 4th new cultural movement. And so I do have a question. Did these influencers really make a difference in Chinese history or the direction of China? Because looking back 1919, the May 4th moment, the two major goals were democracy, Mr. Democracy and Mr. Science. And a hundred years later, we are still trying to invite these two gentlemen to show up.  But a hundred years later, what's your judgment? Did they really make a difference? Well, I think that we have to realize that it's not just these intellectuals, right? Because I mean, did they make a difference? Of course, they made a difference. I think the question is what difference did they make? I think is the issue. Because if you think about it, I mean, the 1911 revolution actually happened. We can't say that that wasn't a revolution. And I think if we go even further, we can say you then go to Mao Zedong and the whole 1949 revolution. Now, that's also a major event in history. You have land reform, you have all of those things. And you have the attempt to create a different type of system. And that, of course, is the whole socialist experiment that China is so well known for. And the question then becomes, yeah, where is democracy? I mean, because science, I think there's very little doubt that China has done quite well in terms of science. There's so much, many great scientists, I mean, even just mathematicians. That's, my father was a mathematician. And so you could, there were a lot of Chinese, very famous Chinese mathematicians and same today. But democracy is another story, right?  In the in the in the in the Communist Party. And it's very interesting to see Mao himself sort of wrestling with that, right?  And people don't have enough, you know, rights to criticize their superiors, and you had all kinds of criticisms going on, you know. And yet, the whole idea of radical democracy that is there in Mao couldn't was never actually institutionalized, right? And so then we're now back to today where, you know, we're still asking the same questions. But I think it's very important to put this in a global context, because I don't think that the problem of democracy has been solved around the world in other places either, right? You know, if you think about the one of the fundamental problems of democracy is precisely that, you know, the common people don't always have the power to govern the conditions of their lives, right? They what they have to do is delegate that to politicians, but they can't often choose which politicians run for for government. And so then there, there becomes what, you know, a kind of lack of interest in democracy and voting and so on, right? Very insightful. And that leads to the fundamental question we have, is modernization equals westernization? And because some of the history books I read, you probably disagree, that argued that China is trapped in this pre-modern state voluntarily or you voluntarily. And because China refused, totally rebut the idea of total westernization. And what was your comment on that? Well, that's a very interesting question. And it actually gets to another book that I'm working on and quite pretty close to finishing and should be out next year. And it is called Pan-Asianism and the Legacy of the Chinese Revolution. And one of the key figures in that book is a person by the name of Takeuchi Yoshimi. And one of the things he really writes about is precisely this problem of Chinese modernity. And, you know, I mean, and it also gets to the question that you're talking about in terms of, you know, his modernization, westernization, and he wants to say no, I mean, one hopes that it isn't. Because if it is, then all countries have to become western, even the Asian countries. So that what he ends up saying is that what happens in China is a kind of dialectic that, you know, the refusal for western modernity and so on or towards in the beginning leads to a different path of modernity, right? But I think another part of that is the danger of thinking about modernization as a linear path. Because what that's saying is that until you're westernized, you're not modern. And then who's going to get you to be modern? Well, the westerners, right? And that was, of course, what the ideology of imperialism was all the time. I mean, think about India and so on. Britishers are there, we're going to help you become modern, we'll help you become civilized, right? And I think the whole thing that, you know, the whole anti-colonial movement shows is precisely that there could be another version of modernization. Now, of course, part of this is cultural, but part of it is also material conditions, right? When we're talking about India or China, we're talking about much poorer conditions. And so a big and a larger population, all of these kind of things then come in to the modernization story, right? And so it's obviously a story that's ongoing, right? I agree. I very much look forward to reading a new book. It sounds extremely, extremely interesting. The Japan, I would argue that Japan's modernization has been quite successful, and even they maintain the monarchy. But anyway, at 10 years, we have only five, six minutes left, and we normally conclude our show with two general questions to our distinguished guests. The question number one is time travel permitted. If you can travel back to your early twenties and what kind of advice you want to give yourself, a younger version of you, and both you and I are the same generation and we have some gray hair in our heads. And I'm very eager to hear what's your advice you want to give me to a younger self. Well, I think that's a very difficult question, because there's so many things that I could tell. I mean, because when I'm 20 years old, I'm still in college. And I think to put it in a large kind of phrase, just to be open to the opportunities that present themselves to you, I think that's one of it. The other side is to also partly say that, you know, because the thing is when we look back, we often say there are all these mistakes we made and so on. But I think it's through the mistakes that I became who I am today. So there's a sense in which it's almost that you can't change it. It's so difficult to change it. Because if I changed who I was when I was 20 years old, I wouldn't be who I am now. And so it becomes a little difficult to even think about it. That's true. Good advice. Your advice does remind me that one philosopher once said, if we were given the choice to relieve our life again, we're going to do exactly the same thing. Exactly the same life. Exactly. And I think that is Nietzsche, his idea of the eternal return. That's true. You always have to do the same thing again and again. If you're willing it, you will one thing, you have to will the whole thing. So you will is an illusion, basically. Is it? Yeah. Well, I don't know about that. I mean, we can always say that things could have been otherwise. And we now have all these choices we can make. But once we start looking back, we can begin to say, see how there was a logic to where we where we ended up, right? Very good. Last question. What books and or movies you're enjoying at this moment? You want to recommend it to our audience? In addition to your books, I will highly recommend your books, particularly the book on down time yet. Absolutely fascinating. And what you read? Well, I've just been reading some things lately. I think I've been reading a book by Terry Pinkard called Practice Power and Forms of Life, such as Appropriation of Hegel and Marx. I've been looking, I've been sort of looking at that. I've also been reading in the China field, a thinker named Jiao Ting Yang, who was who was written as his recent book is just been translated into English called All Under Heaven. Apart from that, I've been interested in the the Indian Marxist Ajaz Ahmed, who's got a book, which is actually interviews with him and Vijay Prasad called Nothing Human is Alien to Me, which is quite interesting. All of all these books sort of touch on my interests in different ways. Anything a little bit lighter? Well, one TV show is the German TV show called Clio, which tells the story of an agent. That's right, during the Cold War. Yeah, it's quite a good show, I thought. All right, good advice. I think that most of our audience will go to watch the TV show first, that created the Hegel and Me. But it's fantastic. Well, what a pleasure to have you on the show. Yeah, it was great to have you as well. It's a talk to you. Yeah, thank you so much. And we very much look forward to continue our discussion. Again, as I said, this is our last episode in 2022. And in 2023, we will continue to hear the stories from you, from the immigrants, from descendants of immigrants, and how your contribution to the fabric of American life. Thank you so much. Aloha. Thank you. Okay. Aloha. Bye. Bye.


여러분께 special thanks to each of you here and the 12,000 2ID RCD members stationed across Korea. We are now writing history together as the world's first statistical level combined first. I am honored and delighted to be on this team with you. I thank God for giving me this previous opportunity to serve as your DCGR. I promise to carry out the mission given to me faithfully.


Woman gets selected as chief petty officer, then they realize what she did. Her heart pounded as she raced to explain the story behind the pictures and posts her colleagues were talking about. It didn't affect her eligibility for her new role. He was cold-faced as he gestured to her to have a seat. She couldn't lose this job. It was everything to her. The only thing that helped her move past those dark days. But she had no idea what was coming. 33-year-old Kayla Rogers seemed like any other woman. She was hardworking, outgoing, fun, and kind. She just got married to the man of her dreams when her life suddenly spiraled in another direction. It's not often that you find people who lead two lives, even rarer is when they can keep them from colliding. But that was Rogers' specialty. After six months of studying and training, Rogers was ready to take her US Navy exam in the hopes of getting promoted to her dream position as a chief petty officer. Just like all male-dominated professions, being a woman in the Navy is hard sometimes, and she felt like she had to train twice as hard to prove herself. And so far, she's been doing just that, but then this happened. For a while now, Rogers felt a weird tension coming from her colleagues. Sometimes she'd enter a room and the chat would abruptly stop, or people would simply leave. She put it down to paranoia at first, but then it happened again and again. Now, it was obvious something was wrong. They weren't telling her why and she didn't know herself. Suddenly, her stomach dropped. Driving in to take her exam, she wondered if they all knew. Maybe that's why they were talking about her. She felt like throwing up. She couldn't handle this, not today. She tried to forget about her dark past and focused on the task at hand. She sat in the exam hall for the next four hours, and pains takingly focused on one question at a time. By the time the exam was over, she completed all the questions, but with everything that was going on, she struggled to focus. Her nerves were too much to take. She ran to the bathroom to throw up. She composed herself and walked back out only to meet prying eyes. He walked up to her and asked her if she was okay. His eyes told her he knew what she did, he knew everything. Rogers walked around with a knot in her stomach for weeks. If only she could pass the exam, pass the exam and reach her goal, that'd be enough. So imagine her excitement when she was told she passed. She had achieved her dream of being selected as a chief petty officer. It felt like everything was finally coming together until she arrived to work the next day. As soon as she entered the base, she was called for a meeting. She had no idea what it was about but she feared the worst, and judging by her boss's tone, it sounded serious. As she walked to the meeting, she guessed that word must have gotten to her boss's ear. She braced herself for what was to come. It was as she thought, word had spread about Rogers' personal life, and the things she's been up to. Her luck of seeming to live two different lives would soon come to an end. Her heart raced as she began to explain that the pictures and posts her colleagues have seen and were talking about, didn't affect her eligibility for her new role. This conversation was exactly why she didn't want to tell them. He gestured to her to have a seat. Once she sat down, she started from the beginning. She told him that she's doing much better. All of that was in the past. Things were getting better for her. She couldn't lose this job. Being awarded her new position was everything to her. The only thing that helped her move past those dark days. But what he said next, surprised her. He stood up and looked at her, with piercing eyes he told her, I can't think of anyone more deserving of this role. Everyone has a past, everyone has their own stories of hardship. I certainly won't hold this against you, and I'm just happy to hear things are looking up for you. But in the future, he said, let us know. We can help. What happened? Kayla's colleague saw a post in photo she had shared to her private online account, where she announced that she was battling breast cancer. And doing so while studying and training to be a chief petty officer. Although she was open to her friends and family about her diagnosis, she wanted to keep her personal battles separate from work. To Rogers, the Navy was the only place she felt she could escape to and focus on something else entirely. She didn't want anyone to know, because she was happy to feel like it wasn't a big deal. But mostly, she was scared they would let her go or give her too much time away. If they did, she was worried she'd never achieve her dream of becoming a chief petty officer. However, instead of her boss and colleagues reacting badly and overattentive, as she thought they might, they completely surprised her. Her boss was overwhelmingly impressed by her bravery, and that she managed to get through everything while going to chemo. She really had the mindset of a soldier and her dedication proved that. Thankfully, Rogers got the all clear from cancer after a few painstaking months. Now, almost a year later, she is expecting a baby with her husband and announced it online almost a year after her initial diagnosis. What the world says is nearly impossible, God says is possible, said her husband, Grayson Rogers.


From around the globe, it's theCUBE, covering Fortinet Security Summit. Brought to you by Fortinet. Welcome back to NAPPA, Lisa Martin here at the Fortinet Championship Security Summit. I'm pleased to welcome the CEO of Linksys who joins me next, Harry Dewhurst. Harry, welcome to the program. Thank you. Great to hear, here we are in an in-person event, one, which is fantastic, two were outdoors, three were in NAPPA. Yes, what's not to love? There's nothing, nothing not to love. So you had a session this morning, talk to me about some of the things that you shared with attendees. So the session was talking about hybrid work and really how to make that successful. And we as a business are really focused making it not just work for companies, but for companies to thrive and to really embrace the hybrid work and extract the most benefit from it. So we spoke about the challenges that that has and some of the solutions to solving those challenges. Talk to me about some of the solutions I'm very familiar with, as someone who's been working from home for 18 months, some of the challenges I know understand it too from an enterprise security perspective, but what are some of the solutions that Linksys sees? So the solutions fall into kind of three main categories. The first is, of course, having the best and latest wireless technologies. So that's Wi-Fi 6, Wi-Fi 6E. It's of course needs to be coupled with having a good pipe into your home or all leveraging 5G and other wireless technologies to have great connectivity. Then having mesh networking to enable it to be wall-to-wall coverage, seamless roaming between all the devices to mean that your network infrastructure within the home is very robust. The second kind of pillar of solution is around, now you can bring enterprise grade security into the home. Typically it would sit in server cupboards in offices and now with us in Fortinet, we've created a product which brings that enterprise grade technology for the first time into the home. So IT managers no longer have to compromise when it comes to security and they can apply the same policies that they would be doing in an office of 10,000 people to 10,000 offices in individuals' homes. And that's the kind of first world first I would say but it's going to be critical. And again, it's about moving from it's good enough to let's make it amazing and let's not compromise on something as critical as security and safety. Absolutely, we've spoken a lot with Fortinet today and over the last year and a half about the massive changes to the threat landscape, the expansion of it, especially with this pivot when suddenly there were all of these devices, personal devices on home networks, corporate devices on home networks, it's really changed not just the threat landscape but also what enterprises need to do. You guys, you mentioned this new announcement came out yesterday, the Linksys homework solution powered by Fortinet. Talk to us about that, the genesis of it and where enterprises can actually get access to this technology. Sure, so yeah, this is a product that really it's been a meeting of minds.  Fortinet, of course, are a leader in enterprise security. So the two combined, providing the best in class home internet experience coupled with the security which can be managed by the business. So when as an end user, as an employee, when I plug in this equipment, it automatically phones home to Linksys and then in turn to Fortinet, we know that it's Harriet Linksys that's been plugged in. It will spin up a network for me personally and my family to use in the home. So the benefit to the consumer is that there's a fantastic Wi-Fi 6 mesh solution throughout their home, which is most likely a significant upgrade on their Verizon equipment or whatever it might be. And it spins up a corporate network and that corporate network for all intents and purposes is imitating exactly like if you were sitting at your desk in the office, in the corporate office. So it becomes an extension of the corporate network. And as I say, it sits behind the FortiGate. Talk to me about the genesis of this solution. Was it the pandemic? Because Linksys is seeing the challenges from the consumer centric point of view. Talk to me about really kind of the catalyst for these two powerhouses coming together. So it was actually something that we were working on pre-pandemic and FortiNet were also looking at how to support the remote work because remote work is not like totally new. This pandemic has rapidly accelerated it but there was already a market and growing. This has just accelerated it. So both businesses independently of one another were kind of toying with it. So when we then kind of came together it was a no-brainer and there was a kind of light bulb moment and we realized that the combined solution with the two businesses and bringing together the expertise from both was really would be how we would succeed. Do you see any in the last, I know it was just announced yesterday, but any industries in particular that you think are really like low-hanging for this type of technology? I mean, I think finance is of course, high stakes poker in that industry. So same goes for healthcare and even education. So ones that where security is paramount, I mean, of course security is paramount everywhere but those ones in particular given the nature of those industries. So we really expect to see banking, finance, insurance, healthcare, pharma as key verticals that we would expect to be successful in. Okay, excellent. Well, one of the challenges with the ransomware increase is the 40 net threat landscape report showed it's nearly up 11% in the last 12 months. Of course we had that rapid pivot to work from home 18 months ago and ransomware and phishing and techniques and social engineering getting so much more sophisticated and personalized. Now you've got someone working from home who probably has a million distractions, kids, spouses, et cetera. So easy to click on a link that for most of it looks very legitimate. So having a solution like this in place is really critical for every industry. Absolutely and I think until those vulnerabilities are sealed, the attacks will continue and this solution is part of the solve for that because as soon as these holes in the bucket of a tape shut, the appetite to invest time in attacks will fade. Hopefully, that's the direction that we need to see it going right, not up and to the right, down. Absolutely. So you mentioned from the IT perspective, I'm looking for the benefits for an enterprise IT organization, centralized visibility, they can see in terms of productivity, I imagine it's much better for the end user. But give me that kind of IT business perspective. How does this help them come together? So for all intents and purposes, the IT manager will see within their Fortinet interface these devices, these LinkSys devices in people's homes just in the same way that they would see 40 gates in their office in New York or their office in Pittsburgh. So it really is this, there were 15,000 people in five offices, there's now 15,000 people in 15,000 offices, but they can push and manage and push those security policies seamlessly down to all 15,000, they can categorize and they can do, for all intents and purposes, those employees are sitting in one of their facilities. And that's really the bar that I believe companies should be holding themselves to, because it provides security for the company, it provides security for the employee, and of course, then by them being able to connect efficiently and securely and with great speed and no interruption, that's good for productivity, which is good for the company's profitability. Absolutely, it's all interconnected. And this is tuned for video conferencing, is that right? Yes, so we've actually partnered with both Zoom and Microsoft Teams to, we've done integration with them whereby we're able to identify and optimize that traffic within the network. So that adds an added benefit to users of those services and we'll be rolling out further partnerships with other key utilities that enable that optimization to help it be streamlined. So prioritize Zoom and Teams for the parents, kick the kids off the online gaming? Exactly, I mean, we've all experienced it. Apple TV gets fired up, Zoom goes down, or Fortnite gaming sessions cause havoc within the home. So it's that application prioritization and optimization that I think will also really benefit companies and the employees. The frustration is immense. I agree, I've experienced some of that, but what you're really doing is providing a very secure lifeline that the enterprise needs, the employee needs. It's all tied together in productive employees that are customer experience, that are products and services. It's really these days, especially considering we don't know how much longer this is going to persist. We expect that there will be some amount of hybrid that will probably be permanent. But that's a lifeline. Yes, no, absolutely. And I think to a point around the permanence of this, of course, we're not all going to be hermits and live at home forever. I hope not. But I think this has opened both companies and individuals' eyes to what's possible. And I think if you implement these types of measures, then you're setting it up for success. And I believe that the solution that we've launched is a part of the piece of the puzzle. And maybe the acceleration of a bit of a silver lining from what we've all experienced in the last 18 months. Yes, yes. Talk to me about some of the comments and the feedback that you got from your session this morning. I'm sure people are very excited to hear about what you're doing. Yeah, I mean, since the announcement came out yesterday, there's been certainly a lot of interest and appetite. And yeah, we're super excited about the reception it's received. I think there's been a lot of people that are like, oh, wow, of course. Why wouldn't this exist already? Right. And when you look at it like that, it kind of is obvious. But no one expected, of course, the pandemic. And therefore, no one was ready for it. And it's taken us a year or so to get a product that's viable and ready and going to be really, really a great utility for companies. But there really was nothing else out there. It is surprising in a sense, but then you're right. No one was prepared for the pandemic. We didn't see it coming. And we didn't think that this was a situation that we were going to have to prepare for, let alone live for as long, as TBD long as we have. Yes. Yeah, no, absolutely. That's, I think it caught everyone by surprise. I think maybe if it had happened several years later, then the hybrid work movement had started. It was in its infancy. It got very, very quickly ramped up to adulthood. Yeah, yeah, it did. Definitely did. So great news, very exciting, what you guys are doing with 49. I'm sure that there's going to be great customer feedback. We'll be excited to watch what happens as it gets deployed and rolled out and see how this really transforms the enterprise experience, the employee experience. And I imagine this is a great differentiator for lengths of business. Yes, no, I think it's a really exciting next chapter of our history. We've been around for 30 plus years. And I think this is a real step change in where we're focused and I'm super excited about the future. I like that change in the future. Well, here we are in beautiful Napa.  My wife is golfing. I am going to be keeping very many fingers crossed tomorrow during the program for the safety of the spectators. That's awesome, she's in the program.  I know, I know. Not fair. Tough life. Exactly, well, Harry, it's been a pleasure talking to you. Thank you for joining me on the program. Explaining the lengths of homework solution powered by Fortinet and all the great things that are going to come from that. Thank you. For Harry Duhurst, I'm Lisa Martin. You're watching theCUBE and Napa at the Fortinet Security Championship.


Thanks Dave, can y'all hear me okay? All right, well good afternoon everybody, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board and thank you for joining us for this historic occasion. I'm Rear Admiral Greg Huffman, the commander of Carrier Strike Group 12, the Gerald R. Ford Strike Group. I'm joined today by Captain Rick Burgess, the commanding officer of the Gerald R. Ford, Captain Dan Catlin, the commander of Carrier Air Wing 8 and Captain Mack Harkin, the Commodore of Destroyer Squadron 2. Today is an incredibly exciting day for all of us as the USS Gerald R. Ford and the ships of the Gerald R. Ford Strike Group pull in all lines and get underway for this historic deployment. Given the current state of the world, it's critical that the Ford class joins the ranks of deployed forces. The strike group recently achieved its Worldwide Combat Deployment Certification and this deployment is an exciting opportunity for the US Navy to demonstrate Ford's capabilities to the world. There are few military components that are as flexible and as powerful as a battle-ready carrier strike group with a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and its embarked air wing at its heart. The Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group is scheduled to operate in the US Naval Forces Europe, Africa, US Sixth Fleet Area of Operations to demonstrate the commitment and power projection capability of our Navy's globally deployed forces. Along with allies and partners, the Gerald R. Ford Strike Group will remain vigilant to deter and defend against aggression and when necessary, fight to protect a strong, free and prosperous United States and Europe. Our operations will include maritime security, freedom of navigation, and reinforcing our strategic relationships as we continue to enhance capacity, interoperability, and interchangeability with our NATO allies. Now more than ever, it is increasingly important for the United States Navy to strengthen our relationships with our allies and partners as we continue to promote a peaceful, stable, and conflict-free Atlantic region. I also want to take this opportunity to offer my most sincere thanks to the families and friends and all the people in Norfolk who have supported our war fighters for their unwavering support of their loved ones that allows our sailors to operate the most capable and professional naval force in the world. We recognize their sacrifices and are grateful for their contributions. I'm immensely proud of the Gerald R. Ford strike group team. The dedication they have shown in preparing for this monumental deployment has been truly inspiring. I look forward to watching what this team will accomplish in the coming months with our allies and partners. Again, thank you for joining us today on this historic occasion. I'd like to turn it over now to Captain Rick Burgess, the commanding officer of the Gerald R. Ford. Thanks Admiral and ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here with us today on what is again a really exciting day for us. The Gerald R. Ford is the first class of aircraft carrier in the last 40 years to be produced and operated and we are excited today to go forth and support our overseas combatant commanders for the first time. Our sailors on board are the world's finest sailors. They have been training and are prepared now, ready and excited to serve in this great capacity. I wanna thank the tens of thousands of folks here locally as the Admiral alluded to that helped get Ford operational and that includes contractors, vendors, the shipyards and the folks here at Norfolk Naval Station and all over. At the end of the day though, it is our sailors the finest in the world that breathed life into this incredible technological marvel and they are today the most, the foremost experts on operating the new technologies that really sets Ford apart from its predecessors. The Gerald R. Ford is our nation's capital warship and is again crewed by the finest sailors in the world and our hope is to establish what hopes to become a long and lasting legacy of victory at sea and I'm incredibly honored to be able to join this team on this ship in that service. All right, lastly, I also wanna echo the Admiral's comments and that we are deepest and sincerest thanks goes out to our families and friends for their unwavering support. We're gonna continue to rely on that through this deployment but they are the ones that allow us to go forward and operate forward and is incredibly grateful for us to have that in our lives. All right, thank you for your time today. We are willing to answer a few questions. You bet, Mike. To your point, I think it shows the incredible resiliency and really the sprit of core of our young sailors. I don't have an exact number but a good portion of our sailors, this is their first deployment and they were held in place because they are the experts on the new systems that Ford brings to the bear. So this is a very prideful moment for them to be able to take all their hard work and then go exercise it in an operational environment such as a first combat deployment. So again, these are their incredible sailors. I had a long and comprehensive turnover where I got to kind of sit back and watch and it was absolutely blown away at their professionalism and their excitement to actually go and do this for real on the Gerald R. Ford. And I think this will truly be the foundational deployment for Ford class carriers to come in the future too. The ship and the crew are ready, prepared and excited to go get it done. We are ready to go. So as with all new classes, we introduced new technologies. We have some two dozen. It's hard to probably put a number exactly on how many we have but we have some new technologies which we hope will advance maritime capabilities decades into the future. And it allows us in a larger sense to assure US maritime supremacy through this century. And so as the first in class, our young sailors who are the experts right now are going to go out operationally exercise all these systems and then we'll pass those lessons on to a follow on ships in class like the Kennedy and the Enterprise and the Dory Miller. So again, that's part of the excitement on our sailors end too is that they get to be the ones to go and show and help the Navy advance rapidly into the future. So we can talk specific systems offline but that's really, there's a bunch of new stuff and we're excited and ready to show it off. Anything else? Okay folks, is that all? Any more questions? What heat here is the good one? The actual, you said the six fleet during operation, is that what you said? Yes, sir. Absolutely. Also in the Atlantic, say something about Africa? So the actual region is Naval Forces Europe and Africa but it is the six fleet area of operations, area of responsibility. That's where we're primarily going to be operating but we are worldwide deployable. Excuse me. How long does that make six months expected? I really wouldn't want to comment on how long we'd be out there but we are ready to go. As the captain mentioned, the crew is incredibly excited. The entire strike group is excited. The achievements we were able to accomplish during the the workup phase of things that have been really inspiring for me personally to see and I know the crew has taken a lot of pride in their achievements and they are ready to go and do whatever the bidding is. What message would you send for the families to see these stories tonight? Knowing that we've got it? You know again, I really want to thank the families and the friends that have done such an incredible job supporting their sailors. Getting to a place where we are able to go out and deploy and I understand the hardships that go along with that. I've done this for quite a long time but I would say that they should take comfort in the knowledge that their sailors are resilient, that we are well-trained, that we are ready to accomplish our mission and we are doing what we signed up to do. First one is what is the morale like on board and the second one is what are the difficulties with the panel system, how much are you guys doing? Okay, those are actually great questions. I'm going to turn that over to the captain to talk directly on the morale of the sailors. I would say from my perspective, it's sky-high. Everyone is very excited to go but I'll turn it back over to the captain to talk about the specific equipment. Thanks. So as Admiral pointed out, the crew is actually really excited. Again, a lot of it is a lot of first-time cruisers and really excited to show off this ship and its capabilities. And I'm sorry, I missed your second question. It's really high and like all new technologies and new systems, we've come a long way from the early stages but a lot of the tension has been paid to it and our sailors, as soon as we turn to these systems over to our sailors, they do what sailors always do which is figure out a way to persevere and succeed and at the end of the day, we are firing on all cylinders and our big fans of our catapult system. It really enables the ship and the future ships in class to do some extraordinary stuff that we haven't seen yet. So they're of course very, very prideful of their systems but there's a lot of ownership there and they're very good and they're very excited to show off basically those systems. Yes, sir. Haven't thought about that in particular. Want to get out of here safely and I just, I want to have a nice professional deployment where we really get the opportunity to show what the Gerald R. Ford class can do and how it's different from the others but no particular milestone in particular. Sorry, two particulars. So we've got time for one more. Last one. It's awful.


Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome. This is Melissa Arma with the stocks. What should I'm here today to review the spy? Why? Because finally, after one solid week of drift off, the market looks normal again, strong, powerful, fabulous. And let's just go over it. So it was a week ago Friday, this past Friday. No, it was Thursday. Thursday, when the gap down happened on the Friday. So it was the 28th. So for one solid week, we really couldn't get going anywhere higher. We actually had kind of a bearish week in the market. But looking overall, the total uptrend held. Market was still strong. I thought it was very unusual. We could never get going anywhere higher. But every day, we were gaping down here, here, here. And even here, we had a red day. We were holding. So even though there was some red in the market and the gap down, this is a red in the live day, and it looked bearish, we weren't really dropping. We weren't really going anywhere. We didn't have what I would call momentum to the downside. We would just get up, see a small gap down. It wouldn't follow through. And then we get bought into the close. And it's kind of really what happened. And then we gap down again Friday morning. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. And then I thought, fine, whatever, but we rallied. So I felt that we would hold one of these days in here. Obviously I thought it would hold sooner than it did, but we didn't finally hold Friday. We should get up tomorrow morning on Monday. And we should have a nice fall here this week. But this is one of the things that people find very tricky about the market. Because a look at this will say, oh, this is a triple double quadruple top in the market. Here, this is it. We made a series of lower highs. We didn't go over the number. We didn't get over 211. We're not going to go higher now. We gap down in the last week a couple of times. No, we're still holding the overall uptrend. Market is still higher. You don't read trends based on lower highs and lower lows and pivots, okay? One of the reasons that I've done so well in predicting the outcome of stocks in the market on a daily basis is because of the fact I'm reading the gaps. The gaps are what tell you what an institutional money is doing, and that's what moves the market. So I did a really great job of reading this market, seeing that we really weren't breaking and we weren't going to break. And I read this trading action each day as bullish on the intraday, because really, we could have very well fallen off a planet. We really could have fallen and should have if we were bearish all the way down here in the span of a week. We didn't get anywhere near here.  So what I'm trying to say is that buying supported the market, institutional money supported the market, or we would have been broken, broken days before, you know, days ago. So still very strong. I'm very good at reading institutional money in gaps. That's what helps you predict what a stock is gonna do in the live day or the overall market, which in this case, it's a spy ETF. The spy is higher. The spy is probably gonna make a brand new all-time high this month in May. Normally people say selling May and go away. I don't see that transpiring this month. I don't see that at all. Monday is May night. We have three more weeks left in the month and we are gonna head back up on over this area. I think this is the last of it, the last of any of this. I don't think we come down here at all. Not that if we do, it means that we're gonna fall. But I don't think we do now, okay? Because of the way that we were gapping down and holding all in the last week. So we'll see what the market does tomorrow. But look for fall through higher this week in the market and to get it back up on here and then finally get over this area. And that's exactly what I think we're gonna do. Finally show some signs of strength in this with some good follow through the last, okay? Which would be over the high. Have a great day, everyone. Email me if you wanna learn how to trade. If you wanna learn how to predict stocks in the market and what stocks can do so that you can profit with it and end the market too. So you can make money in long-term trains and the day trading, which is what I like to focus on. The next class is May 14th and 15th next weekend. Email me at melissathestalkswitch.com if you want more information. Have a great day, everyone.