if that's even a fair question to ask you would that even work out to be worth sending to Montpelier at that point I don't know if that question is clear well I sure I think I think we would send you a truckload if you would take a truckload would send you a truckload okay the permit the permit allows for 60 000 gallons a day irrespective of the pilot study it's 60 000 gallons a day which is not all the leachate that we produce okay thank you at times that's helpful um you know one of the things that I also really appreciate is that you all are committed to doing this regardless of what we say right in a sense that takes the pressure off of us you know what I think about jack's question of like big picture what's the best for the environment you know in part like well they're going to do this work regardless of what we do know to be fair you know I have faith in the state of Vermont and I like our our our standards um and so I want to believe that uh there's still some value to us um having that pressure um and being a part of the the dialogue and the relationship with a and r and with kasella moving through this um there there's one other thought I had about this um oh this is a little bit of a minor detail on the broad scope of it all but uh in terms of testing um I think it may in the section that asks that we uh would like to have monthly testing I think it makes sense for us to um have both upstream and downstream testing um both of those because it's it's really a question of um you know what what are we adding at that point like or like how effective is um is this for our community and in part I actually kind of wonder if it would be worth doing I would it would be great to have that testing done now so that we have some kind of a baseline so that when the pilot kicks in we'd be able to compare it and see like oh yeah it is it is dropping um this is effective or it's not and we can reevaluate sorry I have a lot of thoughts um another thing um by putting it out to 2023 or 2024 or whenever um this council would still have an opportunity to revisit that if for whatever reason um you know circumstances change or we you know want to either tighten things or loosen things whatever um works so in a sense anything that we say beyond this uh beyond our terms right is um aspirational um that's that's fine but I think that's still okay I just want to acknowledge that um last thought uh between the prospect of having a sort of an in-house treatment versus treatment at the landfill if it wasn't either or you can't have both my inclination would be to have it be at the landfill because so much because 90% of the leachate that we're sorry of the PFAS that we're processing comes from the leachate and one of the things I'm interested in is exportability I guess of like if if you all can prove that this works and is a good system and other landfills decide that they also want to jump on board then that's a potentially an easier model to replicate than one that came off of a much smaller site like ours or you know we're not treating as much PFAS if anything I've said in there is not accurate I welcome correction but um so there was I just had a whole bunch of things um curious for further thoughts yeah Jay and then Donna just a just a minor thing is one one thing that you know Lauren and I talked about and maybe we could have been a little more specific but we did include language that said um the testing while would be more frequent would also happen um we said out of variety of sites and so the implication would be that it's not just like you know 10 feet downstream from where from where the water from where it's being released so we could add we could very easily set a variety of sites including upstream and downstream um from releases from the premium plant so so anyways yeah uh Donna and then Jennifer yeah okay yeah well I I felt you were leaning to 2024 and I'll just put it out there I don't think I think of minority I leaned to 2024 just because of the pilot project and what we what we've heard around the other standards coming out at that point we would know a lot more to go to the next step but I also heard that I do think eventually we'll have to treat that 10 percent that's happening now at our plant and so if we don't start it now we start it later just cost more but maybe the techniques way better but but we do have that 10 percent we still have to deal with on at our plant and then uh it hasn't been talked about except in the discussion with Cassello but the statement here no longer accepting out of state I do feel that may need to be tempered and so I wondered if there's a way to say um not accept any regular out of state or only emergency out of state I think our plant itself has to sometimes take things out of state go somewhere else and so if we're doing it again only on those exceptions and maybe you can give us some language of what that would be I think we need to tone that to go because we also sometimes need that exception thank you I appreciate y'all being here this is probably not the easiest thing for you to do um I have a very strong feeling about this and I am just going to keep it to myself because I think I am the only one has this strong feeling about it but I would like to just personally defer to y'all's letter I feel like you've done a lot of work and a lot of research and I appreciate that um and I appreciate that you want to kind of hold firm on something so that's all I'm going to say on this I'm not gonna say anything but thank you for being here okay sorry sorry go ahead Lauren and then Jack yeah first on your monitoring suggestions I just emailed some suggested language for that paragraph that so it would just read uh getting to the paragraph or the sentence that I made a change we also urge a broader suite of testing for likely leachate contaminants including and beyond PFAS chemicals at a variety of both upstream and downstream sites around the wharf and baseline testing as soon as possible so we can better understand the impacts of the pilot program as it comes online oh yeah great okay does that address what you were trying to um um and just on the timeline and standard I mean I get I would rather stick with 2023 I think we can revisit I think part of what we're calling for here is a regular check-ins with A&R appreciate Kasella's offer to be part of that and keep us updated so I think you know the future council could adjust but just keeping us on track it's already a year and a half of continuing to you know take this um you know if we're gonna do a standard if we if people aren't comfortable with the the non-detect which would mean that we were just able to take basically the pre-treated small volume that had gone through the pilot which could be one option um you know and and maybe if if we wanted to go that route then I you know maybe we set it like one part per trillion just to give a little bit of you know just getting to zero for anything's hard but I mean alternatively I I guess I would say the state drinking water standard would be the other one if people aren't comfortable with both 2023 and non-detect or one part per trillion I mean personally I'd love to see it combined 20 parts per trillion for all of the PFAS that are being tested I mean we very well it could be which is not our drinking water standard to be clear so we're testing for more but knowing how concerning these all are that could mean that our test is showing 400 parts per trillion of APFAS chemical just doesn't happen to be one of the five that our state has regulated due to lack of scientific data even though all evidence points to you know concerns at least about all PFAS in the class so that's one thought that is more protective we'll be testing for it anyway so we could tie it to you know the the EPA standard the monitoring that's going to be happening anyway well team I think we need to make some kind of decision Jack I move that we set the timeline at keep the timeline in 2023 and set the standard at 20 parts per trillion yeah I don't know if it requires a motion just kind of discussing it but yeah we can get it moving yeah that's good it's good um is there a second and that would be with the updated language that Lauren yes is there a second okay all right so Jay is seconding further discussion I really want to hear what Jennifer is really thinking I mean it's it's not directed towards anyone you know it's it's a cultural thing and what we have done to this planet breaks my heart and so the fact that we even have to have this conversation is really hard for me and just thinking about what's going on with all of our water systems all over the planet and it's just a it's a hard conversation to have and I don't think a lot of people think about it when they're shopping and when they're doing their lives and you know I have small kids and you have one coming and you know we're we're leaving a huge mess for the next seven generations and it and it's very hard so I'm not angry at anybody in particular it's just it's a hard place to be in as a I couldn't agree with you more yeah to be honest I couldn't agree with you more in fact you know if you just look at the genesis of the line landfill or the reasons why we have a line landfill is to protect the environment for those reasons right um now because we have to collect that wastewater which is a good thing right at least we can capture it it's not going into the environment when we nearly we can control it and manage it and what we're talking about tonight yeah it's it's it's I think we are trying to all work towards their the right goal and that's to you know um and how the safest drinking water is humanly possible yeah and we're we're in between a rock and a hard place and we put ourselves there and that's that's the big picture that is the hard thing to swallow I think Jack I was going to say this earlier and that hearing what Jennifer said I I agree with everything you just said and this is this a problem that's not a Montpelier problem and we're not doing this to say we don't want this in Montpelier water we're protecting the environment for the whole watershed that affects the whole state but I bet we're they're not having this debate in in city council meetings all around the state I bet we're the only ones because we're the ones who have the uh have the plant and so we're like responsible for doing what we can to protect everyone's environment yeah kind of yeah so probably not like directly to the motion but we just have a general chance and I'll leave it to you so like uh first I want to thank you guys for coming in and I think it does put my mind at ease to know the direction you're coming from and I also want to say to the the wastewater plant guys we're probably putting you through the mill on this but like in my mind you walk on water treated water but none of this is like none of this is criticism but I just want to be honest I'm hanging by a thread that I continue to take it that's right it's uh I want to profess I'm a bit ignorant on the science so when you talk like parts per trillion a lot of this is going over my head what worries me is like okay we hear the you know the levels are different or much different in northfield as opposed to our discharge place here I think we have to ask the question like okay we all consume this you know we all have a responsibility to do this and we should be accountable towards it but are we putting residents among failure in our region at disproportionate public health risk by being the one discharge point in the state for all of this because I don't feel we're responsible for the leachate coming down to Hampshire I don't feel like it's the rest of the state and I think what I'm gambling at it probably everybody is is okay what's better for the environment overall you know I want the direct responsibility do we have to the people of this community uh whether to take this or not because I'll be honest you feel like you're a bit of a sucker the only ones taken into the state why did everybody say we're not taking it so um I'm worried about even putting like a deadline a year from now to reassess this if it comes back in a quarter from now and it doesn't look good I want to be able to say no thanks you know and again it's no criticism to anybody everybody's working in the same direction on this but when you're the only ones doing it you ask the questions right so I don't know if anybody's telling me we are not putting our folks at a disproportionate public health risk but haven't this the one discharge point if I'm wrong on that I'm happy to learn more and I do want to continue being educated on this but I mean that's the only conclusion I can come to my head at this point thank you honor no yeah so you guys we whatever you need to do we certainly support I've given this a lot of thought just as our role as manager and in the community and unfortunately in our society um and particularly with waste management this is kind of how it goes you know the the town of Coventry is taking the waste from the entire state and it's in there they've got a risk and I don't know what the deal was for them but that's what happens and they get the trucks coming in you know someone has to take this and for better or worse we have the infrastructure to do it and to do it safely and uh or as safely as it can be done and we're trying to get it done more safely so I respect whatever decision we make but I think it's important right then that we don't think twice about sending our trash to Coventry and the folks up there that deal with that you know when someone else takes you know hazardous hazmat stuff you know I don't know who's taking all the batteries and all that's you know I mean someone's taking nuclear waste right so um different places are taking different things in our country and it's not evenly distributed and I it's just that's kind of where I came down to make myself feel at peace with it anyway so just share that yeah Donna go ahead do I need that on there no you can hear me okay I don't want to come across as caring less I mean I don't need a granddaughter to let me care about our environment but I have consistently felt like it's why we recycle we should be responsible for what we do why we're asking manufacturers to do circular economy if they produce it they should handle it and re-handle it until it never ever disappears and so I feel we are responsible and a responsible thing to do is to do the best we can to improve the discharge and deal with these elements I do not want to pass it down the road so that's where I'm at I'm concerned about I don't know what standard that is that you just created because I didn't get the email you probably if you send it out you probably send it to my city email and I can't get to it from here so um that's another long story so I would rather have a standard than I know that's all if you've created a 1.1 billion I'm like honor Vermont drinking level standard I can relate to so that's all I would want a standard that's more defined and our drinking standard probably aren't as good as they should be not as I would have them but at least they're there and they're known so if you can tell me why you chose that in simple layperson terms I won't oppose it otherwise I prefer a standard that's more knowable that's all so I think Lauren's language only dealt with the testing and I believe that you said the 20 parts but that that was the Vermont drinking standard I heard his motion so he said he said the 20 parts per billion but that is the Vermont drinking standard I believe that's why I was confused because I didn't have the I just forwarded it to you by the way to your other address Lauren was talking about one part per trillion just so because you can never get to zero and I said well let's keep the deadline of 2023 but set the standard at the Vermont drinking water standard of 20 parts per trillion that's my rationale fair enough this I agree that this I feel like we could keep talking about this for a long time you have motion yeah I know we've got a motion and because part of me still wrestles with in all honesty like if they're going to go ahead anyway then do well then why you know why would we bring it to Montpelier you know what but yeah I think but I so I just like genuinely feel conflicted about that I do feel like it's it's hard to be part of yeah I see this as part of the healing also I think this is part of being responsible anyway that's that's just what's going on inside my head anyway um any other thoughts or conversations or conversations any thoughts or comments about this uh and if uh the other city staff want to weigh in on what we're about to vote on that would that's welcome I just want to give you the opportunity if you want to want to understand the motion about a year and a half if we don't meet the drinking water standards I'm on drinking water standards um but just we heard from Cassella that only the pilot system will be on at that time so that would mean that we're either stopping taking the at that time or we're only taking you know the percentage the 10 percent or so um of what is treated I just want to you know make that clear for council that it's essentially saying we're not going to take leachate anymore um because from the timelines Cassella's laid out they're not going to have full-scale treatment within that time frame 25 to have full scale so one one option would be um that the pilot system one alternative motion for council's consideration and it's fine if you don't want to do that that's okay it's getting late understand that this is to require that the that the uh effluent from the or the treated um leachate from the pilot system um meets is that one one or less parts per trillion um by like 2023 the year and a half time frame and then we could use um that standard the treated um system from the pilot to require that on the next as the next kind of requirement you know council meet again set a new motion that the full scale would have to meet what the pilot achieved it's just another way to approach it that but I understand this is a tough topic and of course we'll support whatever you brought up a point I guess I've always felt that this is not necessarily the door shuts but that we really stop and reassess this is our gold and we don't reach the gold I didn't assume that would it be an automatic door slamming but that we'd be sitting down reassessing what we know why we know it why they didn't happen is that need to be written in here or does no one else feel that way I don't think it needs to be written because I think that we could always revisit the decision and decide to do something else based on information that's coming to us as we proceed and so I you know who knows if any of us will be on the council on July 2023 but in the months leading up to that we will be continuing to get reports on how things are progressing how when they expect to get to the best possible standards and we could at that point say okay you're doing exactly what we wanted you to do and we're going to give you more time to get there I can easily imagine that happening well and that's written in the letter right that that we we expect increased monitoring and testing that we have quarterly reports from N.R. and thankfully Stella being part of those and then an opportunity before next year's budgeting to to revisit so that our DPW can you know adjust as needed so I don't think that that's outside I mean that's that's written in so so maybe that's a commitment to ourselves that we'd like to reevaluate this uh situation by in a year just looking at the the letter Jay's question is correct it's one of the authors but clearly states council will revisit this policy timeline to make any desired adjustments on it before November 2022 so next year at this time so they're saying because of July 1 2023 we won't take it but we're gonna review this in November of 2022 to see if we want to adjust so it's actually more clearly stated than I recall or we could say tomorrow we're not taking anymore and yeah yeah and that's the point I mean I you know maybe the pilot project you know progresses further but I just think it's important that we're saying that hey this is a this is a time frame that we're holding to um and that it's not open and if you don't have more time you know so yes it could go either direction but the point is yes we have the opportunity to revisit but it's it's making sure that there's accountability throughout the whole process I think even going 18 months to some of us maybe feels a little bit long but knowing that there's accounting accountability built into that time frame I think is really important and the pilot uh pretreatment testing should be you know it's not the whole it's it's not the full scale it should um be treating some portion of the leachate at KSL by July of 2023 is that right yes okay some portion will will be being treated see will low results right so by the permit we must be operational in the pilot one year from issuance of permit so assuming the permit is issued let's just call it January 1st we must be operational by January 1st 2023 so in November 2022 when we're all sitting here in this room just try to yeah be sure you may or may not be operational you may be close Joe and I probably hope not to spend Christmas at the landfill so we'd like to be I spend Christmas every year at the landfill okay well the idea that we would revisit it in years also I've comforted to me anyway we'll have we'll no more we'll be a little further in this process uh all right any further discussion about this okay um and just checking that nobody else online who would like to say anything all right um all in favor please or there's been a motion in a second all in favor please say I and opposed okay so the motion passes and so that we have a something to give to ANR comments on this permit and just so i'm crystal clear so the language will change from any detectable PFAS to PFAS chemicals above the Vermont drinking water standard I think actually leaving at that I mean if by some chance they changed the drinking water standard hopefully to make it more protective in the next year and a half that could keep us at least up to date with them and then with that monitoring language that I don't know Donna if you got that but that just adds the upstream and downstream and that we want baseline testing yep yep okay I could I could edit that send it then we get it submitted send okay great beautiful thank you okay thank you all right um thank you staff yes thank you staff yeah okay much everybody okay uh that is all of our business um council reports I want to start with Donna shocking okay yes thanksgiving is coming next week I hope you're all better prepared than I am but I do have one request that's more in the serious note and that is you all had Doug and Paco here when I was gone talking about the central Vermont public safety authority and then talking with the twin city teams which is Barry and Montpeliers public safety staff and the city managers from both cities they have reflected to me that they would like to to take the public safety authorities report and look at those recommendations and come out with her with the next step especially how to fund the 3.9 million equipment that came out of those recommendations and they would just like to work as they do as a staff committee and I would like to know I think Bill would too a nod if indeed the council supports the city staff putting that time in to try to advance a capital purchase on the public safety items and then they'd be working as a team and they can invite whoever they want in including the consultant that will make available to them to try to advance those recommendations that came out of that study if people have a nod a thumbs up that would be good to have the staff do that I asked Donna to raise it I think we we they've been that agenda item to appoint us as a formal committee and I think we just said hey if we're staff we can work together but before we put you know if the council either council doesn't want to pursue the televate study anymore tell us now before we spend a lot of time on this you know I'm not guaranteeing again like anything else you're not committing to it but thank you thank you and now just to you some of you may have been familiar with the Karen Kitzmiller's coat drive and my Montpelier Rotary Club took that over and last year due to the pandemic we didn't collect used coats we actually made a deal with Lenny's and buy retail coats we did the same thing this year and there's some like 800 coats that we're distributing so I just want you to know that is in the works and people will have those coats again supply chain is hard but we did fundraising and believe it or not people who've done this for years bought our raffle tickets and had a big social party still bought raffle tickets still donated the money for the coats it was really very heartwarming you know that people will come and support that effort and there's kids there's people on the street but there's all sorts of families coming who just need winter coats so it feels really good and I hope you have a chance to support it in the future if you haven't already. Do you have a question Karen? Yes, so I can. So I can let the homelessness task force know and other folks who might need those coats have those already been distributed or how do they get? Who do they contact? I'll find that. Okay thank you. I thought you were volunteering for a winter coat. Is that it? Okay Connor.  So on Monday the legislature will reconvene for a special session there to consider a compromise that the governor has put out saying that all right the governor doesn't support a statewide mask ban right but he's willing to consider a deal where municipalities on an individual basis may be able to institute one but they're going to have to reconsider it every month and they're not going to be able to do it past April. Every month they have to reconsider it at a meeting if they want to keep it going. So I just like you know I'm a bit upset that I don't like you know municipalities being treated like political footballs in this case you know either it's the right move for a statewide mandate or it's not but I think we've seen like studies show that the piecemeal approach doesn't work and really what it is is the executive branch shirking the responsibility and passing what should be a statewide responsibility on the municipalities which isn't effective and all it is is a political sound bite. So I just want to tell everybody I'll be. Want us to sign your petition? I mean I guess I'm taking the temperature should there be collective response on this before it goes to print on like Monday the special session that we don't support this or I mean I'm happy there's something individually too but I'm just letting you know I just don't like it you know it's not right so it's my reward. Yeah. I'm losing brain cells but if you need anything more formal from us let us know. I mean I guess it's a question do other people feel similar to you? I agree 100% I would support a collective approach saying that you know passing the buck down to municipalities you know where there's no clear borders I mean it just is ridiculous it's it's a waste of time. I mean we've done it in the past when you know there was no other option there was you know the state of emergency had been just passed and I guess I don't regret doing it at that point but you know where you're in for this it seems so. So to be fair if we do get that authority I think we should take it seriously like if or when that happens but should there be a statewide approach? Yes. Yeah that's where I am I think that this is the the one train that's going to get us to having the authority to create a mask regulation here in Montpelier because he's already said he's going to veto anything else and I think he probably will. So if the question is do we pass something encouraging our two representatives and our three senators to vote against the vote I clearly would not support that because we think we should have that authority should we consider maybe putting a charter amendment on the ballot to say we want the authority to to create a public health order when it's you know whatever the language would be then we might want to consider that so it's not limited to just the present crisis. No that's that's not a question we need to deal with. Yeah and I'm not even saying like when it gets the legislature our delegations to vote against us but I don't think like you know playing games like this should not be called out in a public fashion and if we support a statewide mask ban we should tell the governor that in some formal manner yep since we should direct bill to write a living on that in there. I mean how we do it on behalf of people. Sure and you feel like you've got the sense of this conversation. I'll just point out and and and I personally agree with the sentiments but I'll just point out that typically the municipal governments are seeking to have our own individual decision-making authority and resisting state mandates on us. So this is pretty much a 180 on that however you know I don't know I get it but and I think the distinction is for just like what things would you know the whole notion of state and federal regulations for things that don't recognize boundaries and this is clearly something that doesn't right now. That said we might take the authority to protect at least people within our boundaries and require it. Just pointing out that we're I don't know if we need to see some towels would come out of that. Okay. Okay. Jennifer I'm complete thank you. Okay. It's in Jack. Well just two points one we all heard this week but Senator Leahy announced that he's not running for reelection and as a great senator a great son of Montpelier who's done tremendous work not just for the United States but specifically for Montpelier you go down town see what is the funds he's brought to the city has done for us at the library and probably many other places it you'll have plenty of time for recognition but I think he he deserves that recognition and just on a very much lighter note in through our debates tonight I noticed the use of the word y'all from at least three members of the council counting the mayor so I think maybe the influence of the assistant city manager is making itself known. Yeah and I didn't hear you. All right Lauren great well you took my rant on the mask mandate off the table thank you check that off my list. I just wanted to acknowledge the good work of the activists that pushed the administration to actually extend the hotel program for our unhoused population so was I know that we still have lots of work to do lots of issues and lots of things that our community can still do but it was great to finally see that move through thanks to some great activism and work from lawmakers pushing the administration so yay and lastly our little lobbying committee is going to meet next week so if anyone has policy ideas of advocacy or policy positions that you think we all should be supporting as a city that could go on that legislative agenda would welcome everyone's input. I would just remind folks that tomorrow at four o'clock we're gonna have a redivocation of the Challenger Explosion Memorial which is at Montpilier High School it's sort of by the very small orchard that we have there and so yeah I think that is it for me and no John's not here so yeah. Jack I would just say that if we were up to you we'd all be saying use guys right. I have a couple things I think she already mentioned the lobbying committee so that's good just a reminder that actually the alternate side parking went into effect this past Monday November 15th and we will begin active enforcement next week on Monday the 22nd so everyone's got a week to get used to doing that but parked on the odd side on odd nights and the even side on even nights just fortunately we haven't had really much plowing and just more seriously just to get you folks prepped for the next time we get together we spent virtually all day in this room with the department heads working on the budget half day yesterday on zoom and some more time and I think all of us collectively as a team and perhaps all of you had some hopeful illusion that everything was back to normal and I think that we got a big reality dose this week and I described to the mayor is saying we have developed really good appetites but are covered in refrigerators still not full and so we've had to make some you know hard decisions and so we're trying to clearly reflect the strategic plan and the priorities and also the departmental needs and all of that but I guess what I'm here to say is it will certainly not meet all needs what's recommended probably not even close and I think we have to remember that we cut the budget last year or four percent because of COVID and so we're trying to come back from that reduction but our revenues are you know parking and rooms meals and alcohol were the big ones are just not they're coming back they're better but they're not back to where they were so even getting sort of back to where we were with all of the priorities that we've laid out which were ambitious and plentiful are going to be very difficult so we're doing the best we can we're trying to stay within the guidelines that you gave us with the surveys and I think we'll do that but just it's not as rosy as maybe it's not going to be that great thing where we just do all of that list and say who we did we figured out what it was cost right to do all of that list and it was 12 percent or something like that you tax increase so we figured that wasn't in the guides 12 percent yeah that's I think we'll have to work really hard with our community because maybe we haven't shared enough of the pain with them they really think everything's back and I think we all did yeah obviously you know but I mean everyone all of us here and all of us and you know people were asking for the thing and we're all like yeah we're this is going to be great and it's it's still it's still not all the way back and I suspect probably local businesses feel the same way and another so yes it's better yes we're coming out of it yes we'll probably be able to do better on our services but our capital projects and our some of our extras are going to still be tight unless you do unless you tell us otherwise in which case we can go back to the drawing board so yeah okay on that cherry a little reality okay uh all right thanks everybody uh so that is the end of our regular business so um without objection we're gonna adjourn 10 0 8 fair enough deceptively short


Past modals should have, could have, and would have. Should have, could have, and would have are sometimes called modals of lost opportunity because they describe situations when we are imagining that the past was different. Before we study those terms in the past, let's review the difference between should, could, and would. The general rule is, use SHOULD for recommendation or advice. For example, if you want to lose weight, you should eat healthy food. Use COULD for possibilities. For example, I have the day off tomorrow. Great! We could spend the day at the beach, or we could go shopping. And use WOULD for imagining results. For example, if I were rich, I would buy a boat. The same general rule applies when using SHOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE, and WOULD HAVE for imaginary past situations. Use SHOULD HAVE to say that a different action was recommended in the past. If you arrived late to English class, you can say, I should have left my house earlier. If you now regret an argument, you can say, I shouldn't have yelled at you yesterday. I'm sorry. You can also use SHOULD HAVE or SHOULDN'T HAVE to tell other people that a different action in the past would have been better. If your son failed a test, you can say, you should have studied. You shouldn't have played video games all weekend. Use COULD HAVE to talk about possibilities if something had been different in the past. For example, someone who didn't go to college can say, if I had gone to college, I could have gotten a better job. When talking about a gymnast who didn't win a competition, you can say, she could have won the gold medal if she hadn't fallen three times. COULD HAVE is often used with IF plus HAD plus the past participle, if I had gone, if she hadn't fallen. These IF phrases express the imaginary past situation, and then COULD HAVE expresses the possible results. But you can also use COULD HAVE to express past possibilities without specifically saying the IF phrase. Imagine you're driving with a person who made a dangerous maneuver on the road. You can say, are you crazy? We could have gotten into an accident. COULD HAVE is for possibilities, but WOULD HAVE is for results. Use WOULD HAVE to imagine a result if something had been different in the past. For example, if you arrived late at the airport and missed your flight, you can say, if we had arrived earlier, we would have caught our flight. If you forgot your umbrella and it started to rain and you got wet, you can say, if I had brought my umbrella, I wouldn't have gotten wet in the rain. WOULD HAVE expresses more certainty about the result than COULD HAVE. For example, if you say, if I had worked harder, I could have gotten a promotion, you're saying it was a possibility. Maybe I'd get a promotion, but maybe not. But let's consider a test where you need 70% to pass and you got a 68. I got a 68 on the test. If I had gotten two more points, I WOULD HAVE passed. WOULD HAVE expresses more certainty. With the two extra points, passing the test was certain. In spoken English, many people say SHOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE, and WOULD HAVE. Click on the link in the video or in the description for more information about my advanced English grammar course, which will help you improve your English. It contains 45 detailed lessons, plus writing tasks with teacher feedback.


Hi, Fred. Hi. It was a real great honor and pleasure having you here. Oh, it was an honor. So a few quick questions on your reactions to this conference. Basically, I always enjoy coming to Bangalore. It's kind of my second home from living here for a while. I also really enjoy the interaction of the participants. When I make my outrageous statements, they come and challenge me, and we have great dialogues. And so I miss a lot of sessions just because I'm talking to people in the halls. So you were there last time. Yes. I was yelling at 2012, and you're back again in 2013. So how do you differentiate between the last one, if you have to compare 2012 to 2013? I think for content and conversations, it's very much the same. A lot of enthusiasm around it. The facility here is much nicer. So that's been enjoyable. If there was one particular change that we want to bring in 2014? If possible, I'd actually choose to allocate another track. Another theme or track around it, especially around more programming practices, real getting your hands dirty sort of programming practices. So hands-on workshop in that sense. Yes, where you actually pull your laptops off and write code, or follow along in writing code. You travel a lot. You speak at many conferences. So how do you contrast those experiences with the one you just had? I think in terms of the environment, this is a first-rate environment to work in. Most conferences I go to, particularly some in Europe, I don't get questions. I don't get dialogue in the halls. It's kind of like, yeah, you said this, but I don't want to talk to you about it. So this is way more fun. So I'm sure you would definitely take it to your colleagues up here and have them come here. Will I get that? Certainly. I think we affect talking to people from various countries who came here because of just the breadth of speakers you're able to attract. You have some world-class speakers talking about some interesting topics. Unfortunately, such as I missed that I'd like to hear. But I think the quality of speakers is quite high. In fact, I had a colleague from London who justified the trip just upon just the speakers she could listen to in one spot. Nowhere else in the world could she find that. What did you feel about the venue? The venue was quite nice. It wasn't too hot, not too cold. Food was excellent. The ice cream was really good. I ate too much. Thanks for it. Thank you very much.


So last week we learned about reports of a potential deal between President Joe Biden and Mitch McConnell whereby Joe Biden would nominate an anti-abortion judge to a federal lifetime appointment in exchange for Mitch McConnell simply agreeing to Not slow down some of his other federal judicial appointments Pretty bad deal now. This was just a report nothing was set in stone But there was some pushback from Democratic Party loyalists who refused to believe that Biden would be capable of this because there wasn't even a Vacancy now the vacancy was announced a day after this story had broke But we've heard nothing since this story has been published except today HuffPost released a story where we learned that the Biden administration even though there's been a lot of pushback is still Considering nominating said anti-abortion judge Jennifer Bender explains President Joe Biden is not backing off plans to nominate an anti-abortion Attorney to a lifetime federal judgeship in Kentucky despite strong opposition from Democrats and reproductive rights groups According to a source recently briefed on the White House's plans White House officials have refused to talk about Chad Meredith ever since the Louisville career journal Reported late last month that he is the president's pick for a soon-to-be vacant US district court seat in eastern Kentucky The newspaper even provided copies of June 23rd emails from the White House to Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear Confirming Biden's plans to nominate Meredith a member of the conservative federalist society who has fought abortion rights The White House initially told Beshear that Meredith would be nominated the next day on June 24th But that turned out to be the day the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and the nomination didn't happen now It's just crickets. Well, at least he was kind enough to wait to nominate Chad Meredith Because I mean doing it on the day that Roe v. Wade was overturned would be a little bit too tacky So, you know, he's he's giving us a little bit of time. I Just I don't even know how to respond to this story Let me just let you all know that this is not happening in a vacuum We have to further contextualize This environment in the White House in order to really grasp how absurd this is this comes at a time this potential nomination comes at a time When 71 percent of Americans do not want Biden to seek a second term including a majority of Democrats his approval rating has dipped again and His own base is harshly criticizing him because his response following the reversal of Roe v. Wade has been terrible In fact, it seems as if he was unprepared even if we had the leaked draft telling us that the Supreme Court was going to do The unthinkable really the unthinkable to people who didn't know any better But this was pretty obvious because they were broadcasting this for a very long time But either way after Biden has been met with resistance from his own party because he has been very feckless Following the reversal of Roe v. Wade, he's still choosing to spit in the eyes of activists and nominating this Forrest Berther anyway Now look this is not a foregone conclusion He still can reverse this and not go forward with this but just the fact that he's still moving forward with this Even following backlash It just shows that he doesn't care. He's not just complicit with the Forrest Berther's He's assisting them in their effort to strip all women in the United States of reproductive rights More from HuffPost Biden is facing fire from his own party and allies Bashir called such a nomination Indefensible and representative John Yarmuth said the last thing we need is another extremist on the bench Eight national abortion rights groups issued a rare joint statement calling Meredith unacceptable at any time But especially on the heels of six Supreme Court justices taking away a fundamental right for millions of people Late Monday senator Tim Kaine similarly raised concerns about the prospect of Biden appointing Meredith to a lifetime federal court seat Quote I do not think this is the kind of person that a democratic majority should put on the bench Kane told HuffPost it might have seemed like the White House has been backing off of Meredith's potential nomination Given its silence in response to the Democratic outcry But behind the scenes the White House is apparently signaling that it still plans to move forward with his nomination This is absurd. They're defending it the source briefed last week on the White House's plan told HuffPost After requesting anonymity in order to speak freely about private conversations So I've got to say if Tim Kaine Historically an anti-abortion conservative Democrat thinks that Biden is going too far in assisting Forrest Berther's That goes to show you how out of step He is with the party and this individual said that activists pro-choice Activists were the ones who were out of step with the Democratic Party No, Biden you're the one who's out of step with the Democratic Party because as much as the Democratic Party is Fighting each other you have centrists fighting with the left We're all in lockstep on this particular issue when you have your entire base unified on this one issue and you still Can't pull it together to galvanize them with a strong decisive response You failed as a president and yet this man wants to run for a second term absolutely Ridiculous now. How is he choosing to make this announcement knowing that it's super controversial? Well, what he's planning on doing is introducing Meredith along with other judges Just do a bulk package deal with some justices that the left would approve of so that way you kind of sneak them through I Just I just I can't get over it It's it's not like incompetence isn't the right word for this It's not even him hating his own base. There really needs to be a new word to describe The way that Biden is governing I mean, there's a ton of adjectives that you can use but really I feel like this is almost unprecedented where a president is Spitting in the eyes of his own base at a time when his approval rating is in the tank when a majority of his base Doesn't want him to seek reelection You'd think that he'd be kissing their asses any president who wants to be reelected would do that But Biden is doing the opposite of what is logical I mean it flies in the face of common sense any political actor with an interest in Higher approval rating and reelection would be doing the opposite of what he's doing But he's assisting forced brothers.  I I do believe that we Should have rightly believed but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled Certain issues are just settled clearly. We're not no, that's right. And that's why I do believe that we are living sadly in real unsettled times I Can't I can't I can't do it These are our fighters folks These are our fighters Kamala Harris and Joseph Robinette Biden We are truly Genuinely doomed as a country do you enjoy watching independent news shows like the humanist report the rational national and the majority report But oftentimes YouTube doesn't deliver our videos to your subscription box. Well, I've got a solution for you It's called the opt-out app available right now in the iOS app store coming soon to Android Opt-out is an app made by and for progressives where they take all of the most popular independent news shows and they put them in one Convenient location you'll find all your favorites on there like the humanist report the rational national the majority report and the app is updated multiple times per day So your news feed is constantly up to date if you enjoy watching independent media This is the app to get downloaded today


She is a student from the University of Tasmania and a part-time developer at take flight and she's going to be talking to us about Wagtail. Microphone is on? Yeah. Big round of applause for Ellewies MacDonald Meyer. Hello everyone. So today I wanted to talk to you about Wagtail. So for those of you that didn't read the abstract and have no idea what you're doing in this room, Wagtail is a content management system. I use it in my kind of everyday job. I'm a part-time web developer as Tom said and I'm also still studying computing at my university. So today I wanted to just kind of take you through a few of the pros. Not as many cons. Like I'm hoping more people will be able to just yell out cons if you hate Wagtail for me and might mention a few other Django CMSs as well as maybe just another CMS. And really excitingly I got permission from my work to do a few demos of some of the sites we built in Wagtail. So hopefully you can see some of the really cool stuff that you can do with it. So quick disclaimer. I have only been in web development. Like literally knew nothing about web development until like April. So Django Girls Workshop last year. I attended one. And then for some reason someone gave me a job. Which is great. I've learned a lot. I've unfortunately only part-time so I haven't got to work as much. And I accept that I don't know everything. It would be weird if I did. And so I am learning a lot. So this is quite a bigotry shock. Sorry for anyone super advanced. But yeah, I'm excited to learn more and more as we go on. Also I do use Wagtail on my job. Disclaimer, I probably am a bit biased. I really do like Wagtail. It's one of the first content management systems I've been introduced to. And so I don't know. I guess one of your first, it's like your first love I guess. And yeah, also one of my coworkers is a core contributor. And I'm just going to move my hair away. So yeah, I don't really benefit that much by you also loving Wagtail. Other than we can get more awesome developers kind of helping out the project and also just using it. But yeah, so Wagtail. It's open source and it's built on Django. I'm so sorry. Steve told me not to apologize. But yes, I may have been set up to do that by somebody else who really likes puns. You can take a guess who it is. They may or may not be in this room. But yeah, so it's open source. I hope a lot of people here like open source projects. I kind of expect so. And yeah, it's built on Django, which is a web framework built in Python. Yay, Python. I hope we all relatively like Python. It's quite young. It's only about 19 months old. So yeah, it's a little bit of a baby when it comes to things. It was kind of started by a company in England called Torchbox, and they kind of run the show. And now there's some other places around the world like Takelight in Hobart and Springload in New Zealand really like it. So I don't know if anyone from Springload is here. Cool if it is. But yeah, so what it's used for, what we use it for are kind of bespoke websites. And yeah, you can use it for a lot of different things. It's good up to enterprise. Probably not great for just a personal blog. Well, no, that's not true. It's fine for a personal blog. It might be a bit like it has a lot of stuff with it. So maybe you could just have a WordPress site if you're not really interested in tech. Obviously, it's not really designed for people who don't code. You do need to code. But yeah, it's really flexible. It has a really pretty interface. So it's really nice when you're working with your clients. They can... Sorry. Sorry, everyone. So yeah, it's got a really pretty backend for the client. They can just log in. It's really easy to use. I'll be showing you some of that later in the demo. It scales really well. And it's pretty... Sorry, I seem to write pretty a lot in my notes because that's probably one of the main reasons I like it. It's really easy to navigate for your clients, which is one of the main reasons we use it. And yeah, it has really good test coverage as well. Some of its features. Streamfields. Does anyone know what streamfields are? No. They're really awesome. So you guys know about rich text areas? Cool. So yeah, streamfields are effectively just like that, but better. So Torchbox, or developers in Torchbox, kind of decided that when they added more and more content to rich text areas, it often got quite tricky. So streamfields were kind of their elegant solution to that. So basically they're like whizzywigs. And so as the developer, we can decide what content and kind of what order our users or clients can put that in. So it keeps our designer very happy because she has more control over what our clients can brutally do to the content they sometimes put on their sites. And yeah, and there's no kind of quirky bugs or compromising solutions when you're dealing with them. It supports elastic search, which is apparently a really hot topic. I did not know that. I recently found out. I like elastic search mostly. Sometimes it's interesting to deal with. But yeah, it's got great elastic search integration. It's got snippets. It's got an image cropper, so it'll nicely format all your images for you when you're putting in content. It's got a form builder, and it's got a really nice explorer, as I said. It's very pretty. As for cons, biggest con at the moment is obviously that the Wagtail logo doesn't look like a Wagtail. The Wagtail clearly needs to be longer. We get told about that a lot for some reason. People really care about what Wagtails look like. Because it's new, it only really supports Django 1.6, 1.7. I don't think that's really an issue, but other people might. But yeah, there are a lot more cons out there. But as I said, I'm new, and I haven't found them yet. So I'm still looking for them. And yeah, so if you know any, please do come tell me afterwards and tell me how wrong I am. So when it comes to Wagtail use, you can go to that site if you really want. And it's just got an entire list of all the sites built in Wagtail. Mostly at the moment, there's no super huge big names out there. It's mostly universities use it the most at the moment. We've done a lot of work for our local government and tourist de-places and small businesses in our area. I'm hoping some other people will adapt it soon because it really does make things look so much prettier. We've already had really good response from our clients and we're hoping one of our bigger clients will stop using their current content management system and come over to Wagtail soon. But yeah. I don't know if I'm really allowed to badmouth the thing that I don't like. Excuse. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Sorry about that. I've been sick this week. So yeah, there's other Django CMSs out there. Actually, if you want to compare them all, I found this site. You guys probably already know about it, possibly. It compares pretty much every CMS. There's lots of frameworks and apps and you can see what they offer. So you can really see if the CMS is right for you in terms of what you need it for. A bit of a shout out to Django CMS, Bain CMS and Mizanine. There's a talk on Mizanine tomorrow, which I'll be going to to find out more about it. As I said, I'm new. I've never actually used these, but I have heard they're pretty good. Django CMS seems to be, I guess, if you wanted to put, make it a competition, Wagtail's biggest competitor. It's a lot bigger. It's a lot older. So it's been around a long time. And yeah, so they both support Python 3. They're both really built for flexibility and like a bit for the developer and content managers. A bit of cost Django CMS is more widely used. So there are a lot more sites in Django CMS. And it works obviously with more Django versions because it's been around for that long. But yeah, I don't know that much about Bain and Mizanine, but as I said, go to the Mizanine talk tomorrow. If you want to know more about it, you can compare Wagtail and Mizanine. I'm sure there are pros and cons to both. I think Wagtail is much more friendlier for clients and content managers for them to use. But yeah, there's also other CMSs like Drupal and other PHP-based things and other things they don't like. I would say Drupal is probably the only one I could draw too many comparisons with Wagtail just because they're like Drupal and WordPress, they're built really easily for people who don't code as much or WordPress definitely. Whereas Wagtail, you really need to go and they couldn't really find other CMSs to compare it to on that level. One thing that Wagtail doesn't do and which I don't think it should do, but one thing that Drupal does do really well is APIs out of the box. So Wagtail doesn't do that because it just uses Django apps. So there are already apps out there that help do this, and they're a lot better and a lot better maintained. So I don't think Wagtail needs to do those sorts of things, but some people might see that as a con. But yeah, so that's mostly what I want to talk about Wagtail because really, most I can express is in a demo.  In the meantime, I can show you some of the code. So yeah, as you can see, this was a pretty big project we did for the state government. It's now live. It's digital ready. It's just about helping small businesses learn more about the web and how they can utilize it to help grow their market and get better returns. Oh, virtual box. I'm not ready. I'm sorry, everyone. It was foolish of me to attempt to live demo when my first talk. Yeah, so digital ready is, it's got quite a few pages, so it's got its homepage. It also has Eventbrite integration and Twitter integration, all things that you can do with Wagtail. Sorry. Come on, computer. You can do it. So yeah, if anyone does have any spare RAM, please let me know. And I promise I will fix my computer. Yeah, so it's homepage. It is happening. It's just really slow. I'm sorry. It usually works better when I'm at work. I swear. I'd be lying if I said this hasn't happened before. Yay. So it's not as pretty as it normally is because this is just test data in a sense. So yeah, so why is this so much bigger? That was a mistake. No, it wasn't. Cool. So yeah, so it's got an about page, immense page resources and contacts. It's got different fields in here. So this is about presentations. This is the Eventbrite integration I was talking about. It's got about things. It's got Twitter things. And yeah, and if we go, that's not what I wanted. I apparently can't type without it on my screen. There's the list from the beginning. You're about to see a super secure password. I think it's just really secure. Oh, damn it. I can never remember if it's admin or P. Obviously P is a much better user name. Wagtail. So this is actually Wagtail in all its glory. So it's got a nice explorer where you can just go straight home and see all the different pages. Sorry, I keep panicking. It's not going to load. So yeah, you can see it's got different page types and you can add different pages as you would expect. Show me one of the nice pages. So try to think of something that has nice things. Resources. So yeah, these are the stream fields here, or at least some of them. So you can really specify which things. So you can make them have a lead or a text and they have to choose and then they can rearrange the order. This is not the site that I meant to bring up. But yeah, so as you can see, it's pretty nice for the user. It works really well on mobile devices as well, which is always a nice feature for those content managers on the go. And yeah, so I think that's most of what I can show you in Wagtail. I think anything else I could show you, you'd probably have to come to my computer because it could break at any moment. So yeah, I'm going to let you guys ask me some questions and hopefully I can answer them. That was a really good talk, even if your computer needs more magic range. I was actually asked a question via Twitter whether there exists any migration possibilities from Django CMS into Wagtail. Oh man, I actually don't know. We could find out if my computer was faster. Someone could probably Google it. I actually don't know because most of my work has been migrating things from... Something else. Yeah, something else mostly. I don't think people have ever considered migrating away from Django CMS because they're already like, hey, I'm on Django, what more do I need? Yeah, no, it is very nice. I really like it because really I'm learning more every day. I don't know if there's some good migration options. There might be, but I would have to admit I think Wagtail has been designed to migrate more away from kind of PHP sites and things like that. Django, Google says no. Google says no. But I'd probably be able to write something, I guess. My question was, if you're a content editor and stuff, how easy is it to stick things like YouTube and bits and bobs, or is that what snippets do? Yes, that is a thing you can do. If I go to... No computer, don't do that. So the resources I think actually has YouTube because it's supposed to be a workshop. Yeah, so it is quite... This one is a presentation, and I think it goes to YouTube. I know there have been difficulties with YouTube in the past. No, wait, no. YouTube was fine. Vimeo. We had trouble with Vimeo. And generally we've been fine with YouTube. Damn, this is not the right one. Oh no, yeah, so they put the link in here and then it actually comes up really nicely. Yeah, so they just have to put in the link and it just appears nicely for them. Hi, I have a question. You said it wasn't necessarily cut out for blogs, but does it have kind of a date-based article stack that you can treat like a blog? Yes, you can make a blog really easily. It is scalable. I just, I guess I wouldn't recommend it because it would feel like, yeah, it would be like, yeah, I'm doing this blog in Wagtail because... Maybe, but like Katie says, it's about time someone did a UX this nice in a Django app. Yeah, it is the nicest probably UX in a Django app I've ever seen. No offense to me about that. So how reactive is a Torchbox? Because it's an open source project, but they are probably maintaining it, so... They're really reactive, so they actually have like a direction and team meetings and stuff like it's a part of their work, so they've budgeted time out of their work to continue with Wagtail and updating it. So it just released, we got to our 1.0 release the other month, so that was really exciting. But yeah, no, they've been really responsive. Sometimes there have been disagreements in terms of design, but that's going to happen in any open source project.  But yeah, no, they've been really reactive. I know the contributor I work with is really reactive. I think at work we have an entire Slack channel that's just Wagtail commits all the time and that just never stops. This is, okay, good. With the editor box, what is that? Is that like markdown or REST or something else? I think it's basically just markdown. Pretty sure. I have a follow-up question. I think you can change it. Sort of. It's in general. Is there an API for, if I could write a program to interact with the admin stuff and like post things from something else? Is there an API for that? Not that I know of, but as I said, there are a lot of things out there that I don't know about yet. And if not, you could be the first one to write one. Yay. Yeah, so, yeah, if there's a Django app out there that does it and that's just got a URL.py, it should work. It should be in the operative term. So how straightforward is it if to implement, like a new content type into Wagtail so like if you had some, you know, you need to represent, you know, a massive library of documents, for instance, is that something that's really easy to extend? That is actually pretty easy. I can say that because I've had to do it. So anything that I've had to do at classifier is probably easy. Yeah, no, it's really good for defining new content types and things. So I think there were some examples in, you can come look at the code later. I've just got a follow-up question. At the start, you listed the bullet points of stream fields and so on and so forth. You mentioned snippets there. Can you just quickly tell us what snippets are in the context of Wagtail, please? I haven't done very much with snippets. I just had my arm at the core contributor co-worker I work with. He was like, you have to mention snippets. And I was like, I will try and remember what snippets are. However, I really haven't had to use them. But if you go to the Wagtail site, it's got it all really well documented. I guess that's something else I should mention. Wagtail has actually got some pretty good documentation. As far as documentation goes out there, Wagtail's kind of up there. I think it could be better, but that sounds accurate. Kind of like blocks. It's an answer I would give you. Time for one more question. Who's it going to be? What would you wish someone had asked? That's a really hard question. I told you not to give him the question. Answer with the question? I don't think that was a question, Chris. And that's all the time we have. Please, everyone, give Eloise a big round of applause.


Welcome folks, we have the Dow Industrial finished down 170 and Aztec off 85, S&Ps down 14 and a half. You had a market once again, folks, that couldn't hold price. If you take a look at this, when we're talking about, you know, coming, waking up after the holiday weekend, you can see the high in the E-minis today was $39.63, okay? Bottom line, you know, you come out of the gate, they sell it out of the gate, you go from $39.63 to $38.86, like in about a heartbeat. You close out at $39.07, no traction whatsoever, that's the bottom line. And now, you know, we'll see whether it's going to be a drifting lower, and it looks to me like these lows a game. That's how this is shaken up. If we go into the NQs, we take a look at the NQs, you're going to see the same type of setup, was a gift from the trading gods today, NQs were up about 100 points, and that just gave it up in spades, and now you're down 92. We had a high today inside the NQs of $12,244, a low of $11,930, and right now you're $12,010. Yeah, problem, problem child. The whole, the problem child out here for the markets as well, I'm talking about the S&P, the NASDAQ, Dow, small caps, commodities, you name it, bottom line, this dollar. And you can look at this dollar today, man. This dollar today closed just about at a tie. If we hit $110,553, you're at $110,243, and the bottom line is that, you know, the next swing point here is $121. So that could get pretty intense. There's no doubt about that, you know, and we'll see how it checks out. Gold, gold bottom line didn't hold a bid once again. We had one day last year, last week of strength, bottom line gave it up, went to a higher high today. We do have $200,000 contracts, which is good. That's a plus, you know, so we'll see whether the swing low can hold. The swing low we're talking about is $169610. And what I can't figure out, this is what, you know, you try to, so my take is that we're going after the June lows, but when we talk to the dollar, it's like, okay, what can turn the dollar?  The dollar doesn't turn, save your dollars, go to Europe, go anywhere where you have different currency and buy something, because that's where it's going to be at, meaning the deals. Have a great night, folks. Have a safe night. Come back and visit Tommy tomorrow morning, kicks us off at 9 o'clock in the morning. Great show, folks. Yeah, look at him, folks.


Love is in the air. It's Valentine's Day and Madame Webb is out in theaters. I actually just got back from it. Well, I have a review coming out. Well, we'll just leave it at that. But they also dropped a brand new trailer for Godzilla X Kong The New Empire. What a title. And I was gonna react to it, but again, I was at the theater and didn't have time. Thankfully, some people stepped up to the plate and have already done reaction videos. There's about 8 million of them. I decided why even waste my time? How about instead I just react to the reactors? So I picked out my buddy Sean Chandler and we're gonna just, we're gonna watch his video, see what he has to say. And I'll just kind of critique it as it goes along. Oh, my headphones are snagged on a cord. What a disaster. Let's begin. Busy Valentine's Day morning. They just officially announced the fantastic forecast. And now we have a new trailer for Godzilla X Kong The New Empire and let's do it. I like the excitement. I like the energy. He looks a little concerned with what's going on. For centuries. Oh, okay. There was hardly any. It's a very organic reaction. He's taking a drink of soda. The titans were the guardians of nature. He's nodding along. He seems to be into this. And the great apes became the protectors of humanity. He's a little curious about what's happening. Okay. He likes this. Eyebrows are raised. Oh, head turns. What's happening? Okay. Very little reacting from Sean right now. It seems like he's trying to stay awake for this trailer. Probably been a long week. I like the, what is that? A creator hat. At first I thought it was a gremlins hat. It's not accurate. Something is coming. He's getting a little surprised. You feel like going for a ride? I almost should have done this reaction without the trailer present at all. It's just Sean reacting to nothing. Okay. He's happy. He's smiling. Eyebrows are raised. Little giggle. Just a signal. That's a call for war. He's, he seems to be curious. Now you'll notice the dilation of the pupils. His eyes are widening. He's, I think he's on board for this film. We're going to find out though in a little bit. There's that trademark smile we fell in love with. There's a little bit of itch on the side of the cheek. Oh, there's a giggle. The up head nod. He's approving of this. He's now fully approved of this trailer. Look at this. Look at the joy. Look at the raw energy. He got a little, yeah, a little surprise, kind of a peekaboo scene. What an experience this has been so far. Trailer reactions. I love them. I do them too sometimes and I find that they're just such good content. He's laughing. He's having fun. We're all having fun here. He likes it. He did kind of a patty cake on the legs. Before I share my thoughts on that one, go ahead and join me down below in the comment section. Let me know what you thought about our new trailer for Godzilla X Kong. The new. Nice call to action. He's all business now. Facing you talking directly. Subscribe to Sean. I like Sean. He's a good guy. Subscribe. Subscribe here. Comment here. I'm also doing a call to action. Godzilla minus one, which always a massive, massive fan. Let's check in. As for this trailer, as for what I want from this franchise, that trailer did everything to get me pumped. Okay. He's very. He's into it. All right. I've said it before. These ones feel kind of like the professional wrestling of Godzilla movies where they're intentionally like big, bombastic, embrace the silliness. Let's have them jump up high five tag team gets big Mondo monsters. Let's give them robot arms augmentations. That's what I want from this movie. I'm not taking it particularly seriously. This trailer got me amped up and all the ways that I want to get amped up. Sean's into it is the bottom line. He knows what he's getting from this franchise. I'm going to kind of parse through his dialogue and lay it out fully for you.  They're really over the top. They're silly.  They make no sense, but it's a giant ape and it's a giant prehistoric lizard creature thing.  And that's fine. I thought the last one, whatever it was called even Godzilla v Kong or something. I did not like that movie. It got so dumb. So out there that I just couldn't get on board.  Maybe it'll be fun in a way that will engage me and not just make me check, check the watch because the movie's probably going to be way too long, way overstuffed. We'll see. Let's see what else he has to say. The epic music. Well, fairly cheesy things are happening on screen. I don't know. Just this when I talk about Taco Bell movies, movies that are cinematic fast food. They might not be good for you, but you love to eat them. They're very digestible. They're a good time. When I think about popcorn movies, when I think about what I think we'll make for a great date night with my wife, where we will put on our matching Godzilla and Kong t-shirts. Actually, we'll do it. Probably we'll certainly do a double date on this one that will bring her Jennifer's friend, Sarah, my friend, Peter, or a couple that we've been friends with forever. I don't care about the shot.  That trailer gave me what I wanted. Is it fine cinema? No, it is not. Does it look like it will be exploring Survivor's Guild or any other thing important themes? No, it not. Sean, does Chandler still have the sticker on the top of the hat on the bill there? It looks like there's a sticker or something. I don't know what's going on. Maybe that's what the kids are doing. Just a quick note. I just that caught my eye. What else has caught my fancy is I really like the look of his show. I've always been a fan of how he presents it. Dig the neon vibe. He's got the reds and the blues. Very good job. He's got a great camera. I love the camera. I think it's a Sony.  No, it is not. But it's not supposed to. It's supposed to deliver absolute chaos in Mayhem. That's what this trailer delivered. And so as silly as it looks, I can't wait to check this one out. This is what I hoped that it would be. But it's also having just finished Monarch. Yeah. It's kind of funny. How do all these pieces and things fit together that they're fleshing out of the mythology, the different tones. I don't watch Monarch. It's interesting when you try to have a show that had that tone and then you see this trailer. Very different adaptations. Oh my God. Okay. Wasn't expecting the abrupt end here.  I wasn't expecting that. But it was a fine, it was a fine reaction. I think it, I like that he's not too over the top with it. It seems genuine. And he probably genuinely likes these movies. I wish I could get on board more. I liked Kong quite a bit. Kong Skull Island, I thought was fantastic. It hit the tone correctly for me. It had that old school monster vibe to it. While also kind of bringing it into a modern era. It is, you know, it's a period piece. It doesn't take place in 2023, 2022, but it still has the, you know, the technology and everything we take for granted now with great special effects and whatnot. Outside of that, I didn't really, I don't really care about the monster verse. Godzilla, King of the Monsters was decent.  So who cares what I have to say anyways, right? I just have never been that wowed from a Godzilla movie. It's got a massive fan base. They don't have to listen to me. They shouldn't listen to me. I'm a, I'm just a movie buff. I like going to a lot of different movies. Some of these characters work. Some don't. And for Godzilla, it just hasn't really hit the right balance for me yet. I was hoping we would get more like Kong Skull Island though. And less like the follow-up films, but this one is going full blown shlock. And I can't say I'm here for it. We'll see what the final product is. Some of the visuals are kind of cool. Obviously the, the explosions and over the topness of it's fine. I just, if I'm watching a blockbuster, I kind of need a little, it's like a tiny bit of reality mixed in once in a while to make it work for me. Or maybe short in the run time up.  All right, those are my thoughts. Let me know yours. Put a comment down below. Sean, hello. I hope you liked my reaction to your reaction video. I do these from time to time. They're fun. I'll do, I'll do more of them down the road when I don't have that much interest in the film. I'll just react to someone else. Like the video. Subscribe to my channel. Andy His if you haven't already. We give a lot of honest opinions here. We have a good time. We love movies and that's all there is to it. All right, hopefully I catch you next time. Take care.


First off, what was it like building chemistry out there on the fly with James in this first game? You know, it's definitely an adjustment, but I mean, at the end of the day, you could kind of plug him in in any sort of situation and he's going to make it work. Obviously, he played extremely well and like he had been playing with us for a while, you know, putting guys in spots. Obviously, not a lot of time or no time at all with him before. So for him to pick up, you know, the plays stuff, the defensive philosophy, all this stuff basically in the matter of just like showing up today is pretty impressive. There's kinks to work out for sure, Orlando put up a tough fight, but how much fun was it out there knowing that this is the start of something for you guys? I think it's exciting. You know, it's one of those things where, you know, just the talent, the level of play, but even just like you said, like the sort of the energy, the camaraderie that we had, it felt like we've been playing together for a long time, even though it's not, you know, this is the first time this group's ever taken the floor together. But, you know, I thought even early on, it was like we were making too many extra passes trying to get guys involved. And instead of people trying to be, you know, aggressive, take the shots a day normally would take.   But we came together a little bit more in that second half. Greg Logan, Newsday. Joe, I know there was a point where you hit back to back threes that were from pretty damn deep. But at the same time, there were points where the way you and Kevin and Hardin moved the ball among you that seemed almost thrilling because it sort of paralyzed the defense. What do you feel like ball movement can do with a team that has shooters like you three and then you add Kyrie to the mix? Yeah, I mean, I think it's a very difficult task.  You have James, I can do it at all three levels. You have Kyrie, they can do it all three levels. But the guys, they're just either as good basketball players at the end of the day, too. You know, they make the right play. You know, I think a lot is put on sort of their scoring prowess, but you know, they make the right play when guys cut and they're open, they find you, they hit you when you're open on the perimeter, they hit you.  And, you know, we're fortunate that we have the, the playmakers that we do. I mean, they can go and get a basket pretty much at any point during the game themselves, but they're also equally as good at facilitating and getting guys involved and then just making the right basketball play.


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