Hello everybody. Let me introduce Andrew Savchenko who will speak about quantum computing. Will you please stop talking? Ladies and gentlemen, my talk will be about what quantum computer is and can you hear me? Can I have a mic? Now you can hear me. So, my talk will consist of three parts. First part will be what quantum computer is, how physics works here, how hardware works here, and you will find some physics in this part. Second part is how this impacts cryptography we use daily in our lives. You will find some math here. And the third part will be how can we deal with this problem and what free software solutions are available to handle this. So, please don't expect full strictness of this talk because it's just an overview. So, neither completeness because I will skip some corner cases and some complicated matters.  And you will encounter some equations. I will try to be simple, but you will still have to be some math. Okay. So, let's first of all set up terminology. I will name cryptography as classical or usual or common. Just cryptography we are used to use daily like IS or RSA, DSA, elliptic curves and whatever. I will refer to it as the classical or common cryptography. There is also a terminology for quantum cryptography. I will skip this topic because it has nothing to do with post-quantum cryptography. It uses the same quantum mechanical properties of the particles and matters, but it depends entirely on the proprietary hardware. And there are no free software solutions available here. And this hardware is extremely expensive and not available for everyone. So, quantum cryptography will be mostly outside of my talk here. And finally, post-quantum cryptography, these cryptography algorithms that are designed to withstand abilities of quantum computers that will have available in the nearest future. So, let's talk first about quantum computing. As usual computing, it has three base elements, base stages on which it is built. First of all, the most basic element is qubit. What qubit is? It's an analog to usual bit which is used in computers everywhere. But it is quantum and it is different. We will see how. Second part is quantum logic gates. These are devices and means to operate quantum bits and to realize different logical and analytical actions. And the third part is quantum algorithm. It's a sequence of quantum gates which is used to perform some tasks when applied to qubits. So, let's see, let's take a particle, a fundamental particle. We may take many different particles. But for example, let's take an electron with its spin. Do you know what spin is or should I explain this to you? Louder? Okay. Should I explain to you what is the spin of electron? Okay. Electron is a fundamental particle and it has some quantities like mass, charge. It may have momentum, coordinates, and also it has a unique quantum property which can be seen as a self-rule of the particle. This quantity can have only two values. It can be up and down. You can see this here. This is spin up, this is spin down. And you can denote them as vectors. They denote usually like this. This is vector for spin up. And arrow up or unity and spin down as for zero. We can take not only spin but for example photon particle which is polarized in different directions. Zero polarization or 90 degrees polarization. Polarization is just an angle between electrical and magnetic fields. So if we have such particle I will consider spin for the next considerations because spin is easier to understand here. And it can be in state one or in state zero. But we have such entity for each particle which is called wave function. Wave function is an inherent property of anything, any object in this world including yourself. You have wave functions too, many of them. And this wave function can be described as a combination of two states. And both states one and zero existed once. This is how nature works. This is what is called superposition of the wave function. There are many ways how this can be understood or at least attempted to understood on the level of usual life because this concept is counter-intuitive. But this is how nature works.  This is the most efficient way to work with this stuff. Because equations, they are perfect, they work flawlessly. And it really doesn't require that we will understand the nature by our means. So these numbers here alpha zero and alpha one are amplitudes of the state. And they are related to probabilities of this particle to be in state zero or in state one. So these numbers are complex numbers and the squares give the probability. So if we will measure the spin of electron, we will have some time zero and some time one. But these results of zero and one will behave according to the probabilities described by these numbers. Next there is a so-called EPR paradox. Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox, which means particle entanglement. It is interesting that this paradox was created to show that quantum mechanics is irrational and wrong. Because Einstein thought it cannot work that way, but it works. And these equations are very great. And what happens? Let's take two particles. We can take one particle, place it here, another particle, place it there. And they are independent and not connected that there is nothing interesting here. But if we will put them together, their functions will intervene and they will form a more complex system. And the system will have multiplications of all possible states for each particle. So if we will take two qubits, two electrons for example, they will have four possible states. If we will add third particle, they will have eight possible states. So complexity of the system increases exponentially with each particle. This means that qubits can be described in exponential form as the sum of all possible amplitudes. And this way, when we add just one element to the system, we double its memory capacity and its processing capacity. This is feature unique to quantum states and it cannot be seen in usual electronics views daily. So n qubits describe two to power n states at once. All the states exist together. And this can be seen like all possible different universes where all the states, all these varieties of states are enabled. They exist at once and when we measure this particle, a very interesting effect happens. When we measure it, the function collapses and we are receiving only one result of all possible values. Of course, there's different probabilities which are explained by these coefficients. This is the main power of quantum computing because power of the system grows exponentially. So what can you do, for example, with these qubits? If you have four terabyte HDD drive with your movies data and so on, it is sufficient to have only 42 qubits to store all your data in this system, just in 42 tiny items, for example. You can store all the entire content of this hard drive. And if you will take 273 qubits, they will be sufficient to store information which can exist in all atoms in visible universe. So if you will take each item in universe and assign bit 0 or 1 to it, you will have just 273 qubits to contain all these possible numbers. This is absolutely amazing and a great feature. And the states can be manipulated by affecting amplitude coefficients. But, well, if it's so cool, it should be able to do many stuff, not just to hack cryptography, but it has some limitations. Only n bits can be extracted from two to other three states. So if you store your movie, your HDD, it exists there, but you cannot retrieve it. You can retrieve only n random bits, only 42 random bits from all these data. So this is a huge limitation of quantum computing and these limits of what algorithms can be used. It can be used only to the cases where you have generated a lot of possible states data and you need to map reduce them somehow to collapse into n bits which are interesting to you. And the result each time will be random. This is a non-deterministic machine, so you will not have the same result each time, but you will have some probability. And you can repeat several times and extract whatever you want. How qubits can be implemented? There are many ways. It's like electronic spin, atomic nuclear spin can be used for these intentions too. Photon can be used, quantum dots, and there are many other inventions. They all have something interesting which can be used to create quantum machine. But there are many problems. The main problem is stability. The system is in an excited state. It wants to decay. It wants to forget what it is, so qubits, at least right now, can't exist for a long period of time. They decay. You have to use them fast and create them once more. And there is a problem with error correction because errors are built up fast and they should be corrected. This is solved by theoretical works and in some practical implementation store. So you may ask why are we using just two states? We can use three states for example. This is known as Q-treats. They have some advantages like more stable decoherence, but they are hard to implement and hard to manipulate. It's the same with usual treats. At the beginning of the usual computing, treats existed. And there were some machines which were using not bits, but treats. But they are harder to implement, harder to use, and nobody bothers with this to implement in reality. And there is such solution as quantum storage. It allows you to store bits from your qubit to some permanent storage. Permanent in terms of quantum computing is right now about two seconds. It is considered a very long time. It was etched experimentally here and later in my presentation you will see numbers in square brackets. They are interactive links and can be used to follow for further reading of various materials. All of them are present at the end of presentation. And this storage was implemented several years ago using phosphorous atom and this is very interesting work. Because it's the first result where for several seconds people were able to save this data. Okay, what are quantum gates? Quantum gates are from theoretical point of view just matrices. So any interaction in our world is basically a matrix. And when someone tells you that our world is matrix, this is to the great true. It's indeed a lot of matrices which are interacting with each other. And they can be implemented using various physical technologies like ion traps or nuclear magnetic resonance. You are probably all accustomed to this effect because this is how magnetic resonance tomography works. Actually, magnetic resonance tomography is a nuclear magnetic resonance tomography and each such tomography is a nuclear device. But in order not to scare people, usually managers avoid the word nuclear and say in magnetic resonance tomography. It's perfectly safe, it has nothing to do with radioactivity, but physics in there is purely nuclear. And the very same effect can be used to manipulate such states. So it is possible, it was proved in CRE that we can provide full set of logical operators which you are used to in usual computing in quantum computing. You can implement or nodes or additions, multiplications, anything. But quantum computers are more efficient to very special operations, you will see this later. And there is another very interesting effect which is also used in quantum computers. All gates are reversible in contrast to classical gates. Any operation until measurement is done, any operation can be reversed. This is a very valuable feature and very unusual for ordinary computing. So this is an example from one of UK universities how they implement these qubits. They can be implemented on a pad from various materials at microscopic scale. You can see, and this is an example just of few, each cell is a qubit basically. So the most important result which you should remember from abilities of quantum computing is that it can store two to point n possible states, but it can operate with the states. It can return only n. So this can be seen as a giant map radius, not strictly map radius of course, but something similar which returns you a very small data up in the end of its work. And in quantum computing to post us 2 plus 2 equals 5, this is absolutely normal situation, as I approve this because result is probabilistic. But what is important than probability of 2 plus 2 equals 4 is higher than probability of 2 plus 2 equals 5. This means that each result must be either repeated multiple times until the probability of success is reached or checked. For example, if we are doing some cryptography work and want to find a key, it is trivial to check the key which would return, right? So we can just check it and if something wrong, repeat the process. For further reading, if you are interested in the subject, I can recommend a very interesting book, The Physics of Quantum Information. So let's now consider one problem, how to find period of a function. It is very important for cryptography and if we have some function on discrete field of integer numbers and we want to find some period R, for example. In classical computing, complexity is big O from N. Big O means the same degree as argument of big O. And we can try to apply discrete fast Fourier transformation to this function. You may ask what the hell I am proposing because complexity of fast Fourier transformation is O from N log N. It is higher than complexity of brute force in this case. But quantum computing allows to perform discrete Fourier transformation very fast. It allows it to perform in polynomial time O from log N squared. It was proven before, it's quite a lot of math there, but this is the main result. So you can see quantum computer as an extremely fast and efficient fast Fourier transformation machine. And it is possible to initialize all initial data just by O from log N operations. So you don't have to repeat each to set each bit separately. This can be done in a group. So many of you maybe have heard about Schur's algorithm which kills RSA. And what show algorithm is? It's a solution for a task of integer factorization problem. RSA is based on the fact that if you have two prime numbers P1 and P2, and we know their product only, it is extremely hard to find each number separately. If you have, for example, numbers of several hundreds of digits long. And this is how RSA basically works at a score. So in order to break it, one needs to find this quickly by some polynomial time. And this can be done by turning factorization problem into period finding problem, which we were discussing before. So how this is done? If some number A and N are co-prime numbers, we can use some little Fermat theorem, which is known from school. It is written this way. That A to the degree R, R, of course, is an integer number equals to 1 by models N. Then we can find this R first by using free transformation on quantum machine. And if we found it, we can write this equation as this one. It means that we have two numbers, which result zero by dividing by models N. And if you have such numbers, we can then find the greatest common divisor of N and this number. And this divisor will be the prime. So the very basic idea is that this part one and part three are implemented using usual conventional computing. You don't need a quantum computer to implement this and this one. Only to do a fast discrete Fourier transform. And probability of this result, it was proved that each time you run a machine, it will return you this probability more than one half through result. Of course, you should check it and if it is wrong, you can repeat again because probability is quite high, you will have your result soon. So what is complexity of factorization process? How many operations do you need to perform in order to factorize number N? For example, let's consider number two in degree 4096. This corresponds to RSAK with 4096 bits. If we will use general number field CF, this is the best algorithm available for general computer. You will require this huge number of operations. It is impossible for a lifetime and even for a lifetime of our planet to implement this. So RSC is unbreakable this way. But complexity of show algorithm is polynomial, it can be depicted this way. And it is just about one billion of operations. This can be done quite fast, just a split of second of fork and key is broken. So this is what happens with RSC. But what are space requirements? How many qubits does one need in order to implement this system? Because it is very hard to have large number of qubits in coherent states. This is a practical problem. And thirdly tells us that limiting factor here is a period finding problem, which requires N squared number of elements. This is just two by N qubits. So for example, for 4000 bits RSAK, you need 8000 qubits. But there was a very interesting achievement here by one of the teams. Yes, it is reference here. They factorized this number, 56153, which is the product of this prime numbers, using just four qubits. So if you look at this equation and take into account the length of this number is 16 bits, then 32 qubits are quite. But these people were managed to implement this attack using only four qubits. So this number can be reduced via various achievements of number theory quite greatly. And it is important that this device operated at room temperature, about 30 Kelvin. So what about discrete logarithms? RSA is based on factorization, and DSA and elliptic curves are different. It was calculated as well for DSA and for elliptic curves. And for DSA, it is approximately, requirements are approximately the same as for RSA. So it can be broken this way. As for elliptic curves, which are extremely popular now, for example, ECDSA or ED25519, they can be broken faster than RSA with the same, with compatible strengths. For example, if you are using ECC key with 256 bits, it has the same strengths approximately as RSA 3072. And if RSA needs 6000 of qubits, it is sufficient to have just 1015 for elliptic curve. This means then when quantum computing will be developed, elliptic curves will be broken much earlier than RSA. And all elliptic curve cryptography, which is widely used now, it's not future proof. Of course, it has its benefits. It requires less CPU resources. It's faster, but it comes at a price. So there is another algorithm in quantum mechanics, which is important in view of cryptography. It's called a Grover algorithm. This is basically a quantum brute force. So if you have some task when you need to, for example, brute force all possible values of possible n values and want to achieve one output, you can implement a so-called Oracle function which checks if your current output is okay. And if it is okay, it is possible to perform this brute force and just by square root from n operations. What this gives to you? For example, if you have a key of this size, 256 degree, right? For example, IE's American encryption standard with this key. Then Grover algorithm can't break it in some reasonable time. So symmetric cryptography is still safe. But if you are using a marginally secure key, for example, 128, you are not secure because it can be broken in quite a manageable time. Let's look at what complexity classes of different problems that we have in number theory. This is what called polynomial problems which can be solved using usual computers. This is n pair problems which cannot be in general case solved. But there is a BQP field. This is a field of problems which can be solved using quantum computers. Quantum computer is not a remedy for each possible NP problem. It cannot solve everything, but it can solve something. For example, Schur's algorithm of factorization problem, it's here. It can be solved, but Grover's algorithm cannot solve general problem. But it can still be useful for you to brute force data. It can be used for various means. For example, to find some mean value of something, to find minimal value in array and similar uses. So let me remind you what is impact of quantum computing on crypto algorithms we are using now. Symmetric cryptography is still safe by case sizes are halved, so you must use long keys and double them. For symmetric cryptography is in bad state, it is dead. It will be dead sometime in the very close future as was estimated by ABM for example. And elliptic curse will fall before RSE. So RSE gives you still some margin of safety, but it's not safe in the long term. And there were developed many different algorithms which are supposed to be resistible to quantum computing. Fourier transformation cannot be used to calculate them in reasonable time. The problem here is that it is impossible to prove this strictly mathematical. We can just assume analysis work. For example, the same with RSE. Nobody can prove that we cannot factorize number in a polynomial time using usual computer. Just nobody have found algorithm to do this factorization. The same here. These algorithms are based on different ideas and some of them exist for a long time. For example, hash-based signatures, they have history of about 30 years now. But they have a problem, they are quite lengthy. For example, a typical signature is about one megabyte. That's not very practical, that's why they were not used widely, but right now we do not have other choice and we have to adapt for them. So let's talk a bit about how real is this problem. I'm talking about just some deep theory and this is not practical. There is one system. It is a working quantum computer. It is not usable for cryptography. It can implement solutions for other problems. But it is very interesting to see progress for this system because it is open, it is commercially available and we can analyze. I'm afraid that for fully fledged quantum computers are just classified because it's extremely powerful weapon against the crypto and we don't have full information available. Just several weeks ago, a machine with 2,000 of qubits were announced and this machine has some interesting features. It operates at school, at school by its functionality and school by its temperature. It operates at just 0.015 Kelvin. Remember, qubits want to decay and you must school them to save them. It is computing a so-called diabetic approximation and it is suitable, at least declared by its developers to be suitable for discrete optimization. We will talk about this later using quantum annealing. By the tests, it beats current available GPU processors by several degrees. Quantum annealing is solving a problem by tuning. Let's say you want to minimize some functions with a lot of values and with a lot of parameters. It is very hard to do using usual computing because you will always fall in some local minimum but you can do this by quantum tuner and this is what this machine does. This is how quantum processor unit looks. It is called down there, it looks like this and this is basically our qubits implemented. I'm talking about this company not only because we can analyze but because it has some free software open and you can see at least how it works and how they manage to operate this system. There is also quantum computer language available that's made by independent developers. It's completely free software. It is a C-like language for quantum computers and it contains an emulator. For a small number of bits, you can compute this on your machine. This is an example of this code. This is an implementation of discrete fast Fourier transform and you can see it here. This is how qubits are developed in time. You can see that this dependence is clearly exponential. Here is a feed for an exponent and this means that development of this area is extremely fast and extremely efficient. This is another graph. It shows you a number of publications. I take it from archive.org in this area. As you can see, growth is great. Why should you care? Because nobody will announce to you that they created the quantum machine capable to break the state. A lot of money is invested in this and Snowden shows that an essay can spend 50 million dollars on development of such machine links are available. We have to be prepared to this. Development is fast and your data is not forward secure right now. It can be recorded and it is recorded and it can be decreated later in some years. We need to develop new solutions but developing something security is very complex. We need to use well-tested algorithms, good protocols, good software and secure environment. Of course, users are not using two simple passwords. So what free software can do here? There are solutions for example, analog of GnuPG named code crypt. It can be used just as you use GnuPG in order to encrypt or sign your messages but it uses post-quantum resistant technology. And there is an OpenSSL fork which is developed using LibOQS by OpenQuantum Systems. It's also free software and it can be used as a drop-in replacement for quantum computing. There is one more library interesting. Sakurai can learn it here and you can find more projects on GitHub and many of them are just tabs, just some probes and not fully functional. So code crypt is a GnuPG-like encryption tool and it allows to do signatures using hash-based algorithm to do asymmetric encryption using Macalus and to use symmetric encryption if you really want a long key. 4,000 kilobits for symmetric encryption is a really huge number. And it has some short comments. Well, not short comments but design solutions. It uses in-memory encryption so you cannot use asymmetric encryption for huge files but this is not needed. You should use symmetric encryption and then encrypt your key asymmetrically. And there is no case server infrastructure so you have no place to upload your key, you're generated, you have to distribute it yourself. This is an example how it can be used to generate key to generate key with selected algorithms. And how to sign and encrypt this data, as you can see, interface is quite similar to GnuPG. There is also an open-quantum-safe project I mentioned before. It provides LibOQS library which has a post-quantum-resistible key exchange using these algorithms. And they maintain a fork of openSSL which uses library to implement these algorithms. But, of course, openSSL itself is quite a terrible solution for cryptography in the means of huge and unmanageable, unauditable code. So, in the summary, I want to emphasize that symmetric cryptography is still secure in post-quantum era but you need to use a long key and double your key sizes. All asymmetric cryptography in the long run is dead and elliptic curves are dead first. So, you can try to use free software solutions available but please be careful because it takes time to develop really robust and reliable software. It can be done just in a month or in a year. So, it is better right now to combine multiple systems. For example, you can encrypt your message using code crypt and then encrypt this result using GnPG. And from the outside, this will be like a normal GnPG message but it will have additional protection. And don't blindly trust standards with questionable constants. I had a question in the interview before the talk what I think about the NIST proposal. NIST blew up one time when they tried to insert vulnerable constants for random numbers generator and I don't trust them and you should be very careful when using what they will propose. So, by the end of the day, usage of post-quantum cryptography depends on you because it is impossible to build a secure solution without community. You need to use it to give it a try. If you want, it will be great. If you will contribute and develop something. If you are a security expert, you can audit the code or even pick into the mess. So, thank you for your attention. Any questions? Any questions? So, thank you very much for your talk. Very, very helpful. So, you say elliptic curves are probably dead before RSA. Now, I helped run the Mozilla root program and they want to put new routes into our program. New routes for SSL, yeah?  So, I helped run the root program, the certificate authority program for Mozilla. Yes? Can you please repeat me? Yes, I have a problem. Okay, so, I run the root program for Mozilla. Root program, you know? And CAs come along and they say we want to add our new routes. We have new ECC routes to add, yeah? Would it be a good idea for us to tell them you may not have ECC routes unless you also have 4096 bit RSA routes, maybe? There is another solution for this problem. Yes? Okay. The question was... Why do you have to repeat the question if I said it into the microphone? Yes, there are a lot of noise. Okay, the question if I understood it correctly was... Wait. From now, take your... Okay. So, the question was what people should do when they add routes, certificates with elliptic curves, right? The 96 bit routes. Okay. It won't help to have it, but there is another solution available. There are so-called isogenic elliptic curves. So, if you really want to use elliptic curves, you can try isogenic curves and they are supposed to be resistant to quantum computing. They are available in this project. This is non-super-single isogenic. But if you have no ability to add them, then better use longer RSA, even 8 kilobits. But none of the browsers support those sorts of curves, though? Yes. Another question? Some questions? Very thanks.


Hi guys, welcome back to my YouTube channel Daniel Rosel here. I posted recently a video about the connection I'm getting with my new gigabit fiber internet here in Jerusalem in Israel. As I explained in yesterday's video I discovered that I had a bad ethernet cable on my network which was greatly limiting the download speed so I thought I'd run the test again now that my network is fixed and running at the full speed. This is what I get with my new gigabit internet which just arrived to Israel and is being rolled out currently in cities around the country. So here is the speed I'm getting with the official testing utility of my ISP which is Uklah but they're forcing it to go through its own endpoint. As you can see the download speed is clocking in at about 920. I'm using CAT6 ethernet cabling which is capped out as I believe 1000 mbps or gigabit throughput and the upload speed is about 100 so it's not really any different than the first time I tested it so it's roughly a 1100 connection. As a pretty active YouTube user a huge upload speed would be more useful to me than a big download but it's still a pretty huge step forward over DSL. I ran it through this ping and jitter tester as well and as you can see I'm getting about a three millisecond ping here on average. One more testing utility just before I show you guys the price this is another latency testing tool looking at the latency between your internet and various popular endpoints like cloudflare, amazon etc and you can see that the kind of average latency here is 120 milliseconds to get to cloudflare and 87 to get to amazon on average they don't have endpoints in televieve but I'm sure the latency would be would be quicker. Now in terms of how much this stuff costs so here is the cost with today's exchange rates to USD on the screen $72 to get it installed and then it goes up from $26 a month which is what I'm paying now and then the payment schedule increases to 62 bucks there's one catch in the fine print as you can see the connection they guarantee on the upload and download is 0.1 mbps which is kind of a joke so the isp set their own terms and that's the result the only thing I dislike about this connectivity so far is that Beza kind of forced you to use what they call this cyber protection thing the page I'm on currently is actually the admin page for the rider and as you can see it won't let me access the rider admin instead they kind of force you to install this smartphone app called Bebezek which in my opinion is a really bad way to administer a rider and it really really hides the vast majority of the features like even something as simple as configuring static IP leases for devices on the network I can't do through this app and there's no way I can get into the rider interface except by using workarounds so that's a big negative in my opinion but for if you just don't have any interest in doing that then this will not be a drawback for you hope that video was useful if you want to get more videos for me do please consider subscribing to this youtube channel


Well, I have straight up nine o'clock. And so let's just go ahead and hop in. And just on behalf of the Center for Church Development at the North Tech Conference, I welcome all of you here. Well, I've been familiar with glue for a couple of years now. Since I moved in there, I've been very impressed with their work that they have done. I've appreciated how they're kind of new focus. I don't know if they appreciate this or not, but I often refer to them as the home advisor for the church. I use home advisor for different things. I put, I need driveway help and home advisor does one single advertisement. You tell them what you need and then they connect you with service professionals. And glue has similarly been doing wide advertisement of our product, which is the gospel. And they share, advertise that and then persons connect with them and then they'll connect with our local church. And I just think that is a gift for the local church. It is an ecumenical organization, which I think is, we need more of that nowadays in a world that's living in great division that we can offer a witness of unity among that. And so I get things that they have been very intentional about including the United Methodist Church in their work and have reached out to us in a very consistent way that I'm appreciative of and I'm appreciate it for all of you being here today to explore this and how we can connect more people in our mission fields with our local churches. And if it's all right before I turn it over to Steele and I will open us up in prayer and then let glue take it away. Does that work? All right, well, let us pray. First of all, we do thank you for this day and for the technology, the opportunity we have to be together. Mindful, we're two or more gathered in your name, you are present. May you be mindful of your presence with the presence of the connection. And although there are times we feel alone in our work, you have placed sisters and brothers among us to accompany us, to support us, to encourage us. Help us be mindful that we are your instruments. And that we have received grace upon grace from great in Christ's name. Amen. All right, Steele. Oh, and thank you so much. Man, what an incredible opportunity to be with you guys. And so many of you, thank you so much for leaning in. As Owen said, Jessica, thank you so much for just the work that you put in to help organize and coordinate all of this and all the planning meetings that have gone into making sure that we are covering the topics that are the most relevant to everyone here. My name is Steele Billings. On the call with us, I see a couple of other glue folks. Abby Shuler will maybe pop in and out. Chris Nelson, I think you're also here at least for a period. And so grateful to the team around us. For the last 10 years, I have had the opportunity to really challenge the church when it comes to innovation. And there have been ups and downs and all of that in 2020 was a wild year of maybe some faster ups and downs, let's say. And throughout 2020, we went from a place at glue of launching one of the largest faith initiatives that we'd ever seen called State of the Church 2020. It was going to be the clearest picture we had ever had of the church, not just in America, but worldwide. And not just from the mouths of the ministry leaders, but from the congregants themselves. And then what are the people outside of the church say about the church? And for the first time ever, we were going to have this clear picture of what does the bride of Christ really look like from church leaders, pastors, congregants and unchurched. That launched on March 10th of 2020. And on March 13th of 2020, we went into a national emergency and begun really just digging in glue. Glue did not step back in that moment. Glue leaned forward in that moment. And we said, okay, if the Lord brought us to that moment, because that was about a year's worth of planning, a year's worth of building infrastructure. For the next seven days, we learned from so many ministry leaders. We pulled network leaders, denominational leaders, pastors, church staff. We pulled everybody in to meetings and we were meeting around the clock for seven days. Our engineers started working as we were hearing things. And we released on March 20th, something called the Crisis Toolkit. The Crisis Toolkit saw about 25,000 churches on board to it and use those tools throughout 2020 and into 2021. And what we're gonna be talking about today is largely the learnings or the response to those learnings. And I hope that what we talk about today is really encouraging to you. As Owen, you talk about the loneliness sometimes that comes along with ministry and we get to be reminded in moments like this and we look around and we see all the other ministry that's happening and we get to be encouraged. I hope that today is really encouraging because there are big organizations coming to your side right now like never before. And this is what today is about to tell you about what's happening, to tell you about the people that are rushing in, the energy that is rushing in, the capital that is rushing in, the spirit of, hey, this is a rescue mission that we are going on in this post COVID world where we get to rush in and we get to tell people that Jesus is for them. And so I'm gonna break all of that stuff down for you today. So really grateful. I'm gonna go ahead and jump right in. And I've got some slides. First, I'll give you just a quick background of GLU and what we do and what we're about, why we're doing all of this. And but we'll spend most of our time today talking about something called GLU Connect and a campaign that we're going to highlight. GLU Connect is all about bridging the gap between online explorers.  They're very much looking for a message of hope. They are looking for the gospel. And in many cases they don't know it, but that's really what they're looking for. They're looking for hope. And so this is all about bridging the gap between those individuals in your church. I'm gonna start us out with a video. In fact, let me just redo my screen share so I can share sound. And we've got a few videos today that we'll actually watch. And the first one we did called Man on the Streets. It's a project that we launched where we could learn more about what is it that explorers are out there saying? What do people say about the church? What is the skeptics opinion, if you will, around would I ever go to a church in time of need or in moments of help? So we'll start with that video in just a second. Glue for the last 12 years has been building technologies, various technologies. And we are now launching a platform and we launched it last year called Glue Connect. It is getting a renewed energy now and it is officially taking off. In fact, on March 15th, there's going to be a whole lot of energy porting to that. We'll talk more about that in just a moment. But you see some of the partners on here. You see some of the applications that we've built. And it's funny that you mentioned Home Advisor earlier because our CEO, Scott Beck, is actually one of the minds behind Home Advisor. He's also one of the minds behind some of the brands that you see here like Blockbuster. When he walked into the very first Blockbuster store, he looked around, he said, this has to be everywhere. He became the chairman of Blockbuster and took it to 7,000 stores. He exited in the early 90s. He was a part of Boston Chicken, turned it into Boston Market. Einstein Bagels was the chairman and the mind behind family life for many years, ancestry.com and others. And now it's all around, how do we take what we've learned throughout all of those experiences and use it to build an infrastructure underneath the church so that it can do the same thing that he's seen in some of those other industries? It can have scale. How do we allow ministry to happen at scale maybe like we've never seen before? That is the mission of Glue. So let me get started with this video and I'll come back and we'll talk about it. Today we're out on the streets and we're asking this simple question, who do you turn to in a time of need? My dad, my mom. Yeah, I would turn to my family. Probably social media. I will put out a public statement on Instagram and I did that yesterday. What I turn to in the time of need, I would say I definitely turn to my beautiful fiance. Ask Google. First thing in my parents, probably. I would lean towards going towards God and definitely not the government. From the professional standpoint, it's more or less looking at maybe banking institutions. The best place when you actually need help and you're looking for help is to honestly look for someone who's actually done what you're trying to do. And when you have a need, who's the first person that you reach out to? Your list. First I will ask myself. I will try to do it for myself first. Oh, I'm a Google queen. I Google every single thing. Okay, Google. I honestly go to Google University. My mom. Moms are always nurturing. That's what you should go to for, you know, comfort. Second person is God. Third person is my sponsor. I'm gonna search the depths of my own experience.  First, turn to your local community. And is there ever a time when you'd reach out to the church? Honestly, yeah, a church is on that list. I've tried it before and it's not something that necessarily fits me. If I didn't really have any of my friends or family and I felt like I didn't have anyone to talk to, then I would go to the church. Not at all. Not even a thought. I was raised in the basement of a Baptist church. Absolutely not. Probably not. When I was raised in the church, I don't go to church as much anymore. That's not a reason. I'm not a member at a church. If I don't have a church, two person. Definitely turn to prayer. But I mean, let's just be real. I mean, you can turn to prayer, but sometimes God doesn't answer. The prayer is immediately. I am an active and very, very, very into, like, witchcraft. I love my tarot reading. I love my pendulums, my crystals. I'm a crystal b***h. No, I don't like organized religion. I mean, I think with churches, and I'm not trying to be on anybody and get on anybody's faith, but they don't have a lot of resources. What would Jesus do? That's the question. What would Jesus do? I've slept with a few girls. They're Christian, they're cool. Like, if I was in this situation and I need some help, what would Jesus do? He'll help somebody. Everybody really has the same understanding as one really higher power, but I mean, you just really find where you fit in. All right, so, you know, it's interesting. Let me turn this off and restart this, guys. I've seen that video many times and my heart breaks in the same way, I think, each time. Let me walk you guys through. You know, here's what I'm about to show you is what a lot of research we have found and the reason that we were meeting with a group of leaders last year and I asked them, I said, why do you have this hope that all of a sudden things are going to change? You've been doing these types of meetings. You've been on the front edge of innovation for so long and, you know, why do you have this renewed hope? In fact, this was Claude King that I was talking to, one of the co-authors of Experiencing God and he said the technology exists today that we didn't have then and I believe that God is going to use the technology in a mighty way. And so let me show you what we're able to do now with some of the technology. We're actually able to understand the people that you just saw in those video better than we ever have before. These are the actual search terms that people are going to Google for and we are actually finding these people that are searching Google with these exact terms and we're able to start to change the message that they get in response to it. Things like anxiety symptoms. What are the signs of depression? What causes anxiety? Give me a love languages quiz or a love languages test. What do I do about emotional abuse? These are the actual search terms that people are searching Google for. The technology exists so that we can actually understand these things now. We can understand and we can intersect people in these moments where they are to a place of desperation that they're searching for answers anywhere and you heard so many people in that video they're going to Google for those answers. They're searching online. So what do we do about that? Well, what we found at the end of 2020 on October 8th, 2020, we launched an initiative that we were asking a question what if we took this campaign energy and we were able to actually intersect these people in these moments and we were able to change the narrative and instead of if somebody searched things like divorce instead of showing them how easy it is to get a divorce because if you search divorce right now you would see things like 99 divorce or have a divorce, have it filed in 15 minutes. What if we said, no, we're actually going to show up in those moments with hope and with help. And so the idea behind this is a campaign called He Gets Us. I'm going to show you all the details around this but it comes from about a year's worth of research where we go out and we understand, okay, what do people say about the church but then what do people say about Jesus? And there's a whole another video that I'm not going to show you today but it's just as powerful as the one that you just saw and the response to Jesus is actually not quite the skeptic's view that you just heard about the church. The response to Jesus is, I think he was a good man. I probably would have liked him. I probably would have liked the things that he said. I think I believe the things that he said about loving people and loving others. And so you have this sort of different view between the church and Jesus. And so He Gets Us is all around anchoring in to Jesus. It is all around taking the message of Jesus out to the world and telling them, Jesus is for you, Jesus gets you and Jesus actually has a bride and the name is the church. And let me explain the purpose of the church and the purpose is to serve you and the purpose is to love and the purpose is to bring you together. And so that's where we are working on this bridge called Glue Connect that bridges from campaigns like He Gets Us to the local church where ministry wants to happen and people that can serve. So that's what I'm going to walk you guys through. To spend a few more minutes on the details around He Gets Us, it is things like people on the left side, they're asking why the church? Why would I go to the church? So many of the people that we asked in that video, they were surprised when we asked them, would you ever go to the church? No, that's not a consideration or yeah, I grew up there, but I don't really think about that anymore. There's a lot of people that kind of stand on the line and they don't necessarily defend Christianity, they also don't promote Christianity. And on the other side, they see Jesus was for everyone. He loved everybody. His teachings were positive for society in general. And so you've just got this balance where we try to understand how do we leverage the moment? And so He Gets Us is one, it will be the largest faith-related campaign in United States history. Has about $150 million committed to year one. That is year one so far, $150 million will be devoted to running campaigns like the ones that you're gonna see in just a second, all around the United States in major TV, sporting events. We didn't make it in time for Super Bowl, but we will make it in time for some other major sporting events that are coming up that I'm not supposed to name, but there are some really cool things happening around that He Gets Us campaign. In fact, in your area, you might have seen them throughout the NFL Playoff season, just on TV, just got to see you shaking your head. And so there's a creative team behind this. They've worked on brands like the ones that you've seen. And we've got a question. We said, what if Jesus would actually be the biggest brand in 2022? What if when you thought of some of the coolest commercials you've seen this year, Jesus was the brand. And so we were able to have Jesus up there with the likes of Coca-Cola and Disney who seem to take over our TV screens. And all of a sudden now it's the message of Jesus and it's the message of hope. It is working so far. On December 1st, we did run that pilot. That's why you've seen those TV commercials. We launched in five cities with this campaign. Dallas, Fort Worth was one of the cities that we launched it in, along with Kansas City, Columbus, Charlotte, South Florida. And we are getting ready to go national on March 15th. Already, this campaign has had over 30 million YouTube views. You can go to YouTube and you can search he gets us. You can see all of the campaigns. You'll see how all of the commercials that are out there are also done in Spanish. In fact, all of the ads everywhere are also done in Spanish. To give you an idea on 30 million YouTube views, if you were to launch a YouTube channel today and over the next two months generate 30 million views, YouTube would write a check for you for around $50,000. That's to give you an idea of how successful so far this campaign has already been. And it's been with a really small portion of money compared to the 150 million. We're about to 15x the amount of capital that's going into this campaign compared to what's already been spent. So when I show you these results, keep that in mind. Let me show you this other video. This is an actual commercial from the he gets us campaign. Give you an idea of what it is that people are seeing. A caring man took a walk. He saw people suffering. Anxiety ran high. Hatred rose. I'll prepare a feast and bring them together, he thought. But some refused to join him. He was heartbroken because he wanted everyone to be filled. Not with food and wine, but with compassion. There's a lot of other ones out there. That's just an example of one. They are pretty short, pretty to the point. Really simple spots. A caring man. I'm gonna have to stop my share. Sorry, y'all. I'm gonna do this one more time. There's not just TV commercials though. You will see this all over the place. You might see billboards. You might see bus stops. You'll see a lot of print media. You'll see it all over social media. And you'll see all of these different types of ads. Just trying to understand and relate to the individuals that were on that skeptic screen and the individuals that are talking in that video and the individuals that aren't traditionally walking into our churches on Sundays. We use language that he gets his campaign, uses language that you don't often see on church print and in church media. If you go to hegetsus.com, you will see things like, would you like to reach out for prayer and positive vibes? We don't talk about positive vibes a whole lot in the church, but who does use the term positive vibes? The world. And so how do we get out there and start to have conversations with them using some of their own language? Here's how it works. We are actually running ads. Those ads will point everybody to hegetsus.com. So if you are wanting to take the next steps and you see one of these ads somewhere, you go to hegetsus.com and you have the opportunity to take five actions on there other than just read about everything that the website says. You can chat with an individual where somebody should be able to respond to you within 60 seconds. You can connect with someone local. That's where you come in. You can text for prayer or you can read about Jesus. And so we've partnered with you version in the Bible app to actually have a hegetsus Bible reading plan that we've seen a whole lot of people go through. In fact, I would encourage you to actually go to it now. It's very encouraging, very insightful to what explorers are experiencing when they first engage. I mentioned that it's working. Just second, I'll show you how many of these connections we've already made to local churches even just in this pilot program. Some of you that are on the call have already received these connections. You're already receiving connections. You know a lot about this campaign. And so you know what to expect. I'd love to hear from you. We're gonna open it up in a few minutes for just some Q&A. I'd love to hear from you of what you've experienced. Maybe share what it's like. What are the conversations that you're having? What are the questions that are coming in? But these are the top topics, the topics of what explorers are reaching out for. And so you can see 647,000 visitors have made it to that website so far. The number one thing that people are asking for is prayer. Prayer by far. In fact, I think prayer is accounting for roughly half of the connections or close to half of the connections that are being made. Next is things like loneliness and sadness. And you will have access to these things too. When you create your account, you'll have access to this data so that you can keep track of what are the trending things that people are coming in for. This will change week over week. Things like loneliness and sadness, they tend to stay towards the top, but you will see things like hope start to float up. You'll see other words start to float up, especially around the holidays, but this gives you an idea. So we've talked about hegetsus.com, something that's interesting to note as you're thinking about how this is going to impact ministry. The number one times throughout the day that we see ministry meeting to happen is usually when ministry doesn't traditionally happen. It's not usually when we are in our churches or on Sunday mornings or on Wednesday nights, we do have a lot on Sunday mornings, but a lot of them happen on weeknights, later in the evenings. You can see things like 7, 8 p.m. is a really hot topic all throughout the week. Thursday, 7 p.m. is one of the most dense times of when we get responses. That tends to be when people start going looking for answers and they really wanna solve something in their life. So to date, we have passed 18,409. I updated this number just before we hopped on and I put the plus symbol there because I can almost guarantee that that number has gone up since we started this call. We're seeing over 150 explorers a day are coming in right now across the nation. So there is a job to do. There is a gap there that we have to fill. And let me show you this video. Last video that I'll show you, this one's about two minutes long and it really explains how does this work for churches that want to participate? Glue is a new kind of outreach platform designed to enable your church to reach your city in a new way. Our goal is to help you serve more people and see more lives changed each week. It all starts by meeting people where they are.  Some just need prayer, wanna know more about Jesus and others are struggling and need help. And the problem is that they're trying to find those answers online instead of turning to the church. And when they do, they're getting answers like this. That's where we come in. Glue connects you to the digital campaigns that our kingdom-minded partners are running. These ongoing campaigns are designed to reach people in their moment of need, especially those who don't normally go to church. We call them explorers. So instead of seeing an answer to their question like this, they'll encounter a message of hope. Then they'll have the opportunity to connect and if they're interested, we'll deliver them directly to you. From there, you get to do what you do best, build relationships. To get started, join Glue and fill out your church's profile. Next, grab a cup of coffee and wait while we send real people right to your Explorer inbox. You can respond directly, assign them to a team member and update their status after reaching out. We've also put together a library of resources and training materials, as well as a private Facebook community to equip your team to serve your new connections and engage them well. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Glue is full of outreach and communication tools that help you increase your impact right in your city and serve more new people each week. You won't need to hire more people and we'll do all the heavy lifting with campaigns, leaving the ministry work for you. It's like having a full-time outreach team on staff. Sign up today and join over a thousand churches nationwide super-charging their online outreach with Glue. All right. Hey, guess what? I can now change the screen. Glue is a new kind of outreach platform. I spoke too soon. I thought I was gonna brag on myself. You think I know how to work soon. All right, so that's the logistics of how it works, what you can expect. In fact, some of you that have already signed up, you're going, hey, there were some screens in there that I haven't seen before. That's because that was the first glimpse that almost anybody has seen, by the way, of the new Glue that we'll be rolling out next week. So stay tuned for that. That'll be coming. You'll see those updates. You'll be getting emails about how to access the new version just a second. I'll show you if you have not already created your Glue account, how can you get in and start that process today? What I'm showing you is to set a little bit of the urgency and I'm gonna zoom in to Dallas in just a second. But what you're looking at is across the United States, the blue spots represent explorers that are coming in and the red markers represent churches that are already participating across the United States. We're nearing 2,000 active churches that are participating to receive explorers. We have had about 18,000 connections, as you saw earlier. And again, all of this is within a pilot phase. And this is all pre the $150 million budget of year one. So as this ramps up, we are expecting close to a million explorers, maybe more. Hard to say, this is kind of the first time this has been done, but based on our projections, we could see a million explorers come in. We need more ministries to close the gaps. And I'll show you why. As these blue spots start to fill in across Dallas, right now Dallas is one of our five cities and so that's why you have some density already. But on March 15th or around March 15th, the campaigns go national. All of this area out here will start to fill in, explorers from outside of the Metroplex will start to show up and they'll start to say, hey, I do wanna talk to somebody. I am raising my hand. I do want somebody to pray for me. I would like to go to coffee with someone. I would like to come check out their church. I would like to learn more about this guy named Jesus. And we don't have enough ministries that are participating just yet. And so we are on a mad dash right now. Glue has completely reorganized as a company to start helping spread the word so that we can get more churches raising their hands and yes, we wanna close those gaps for you. So that's really the urgency around it. That's why we're launching a new tool to make it easier for you to connect. We believe that capacity needs are going to start to increase. And so we are building in communication tools to make it really easy for you to communicate. Some of the tools that you saw in that video are SMS text messaging. Texting has a 98% open rate. We believe that we will see a dramatic increase in the number of explorers that respond and actually engage in conversation with you as ministry leaders. So you are probably asking, well, what do I do to get started? And we'll end on this. And let me back up just a second. Sorry, I'm getting a glitch on my side. Okay. If you do not have a glue account, you can scan the QR code with your phone or you can go to platform.glue.us and you can sign up. If you already have a glue account, the updates that I talked about, you're gonna be getting an email pretty soon, letting you know how to access that new version. And so you're already set. One of the things that you might need to do if you already have a glue account is turn on explorers because your explorer settings may not be configured just yet. So we can talk about that. But guys, I wanna thank you so much for joining us today. I hope this has been encouraging. The amount of energy rushing beside the ministry that is already happening is increasing every single day. People are showing up from all over the place saying, we wanna see the message of the gospel scale like it never has before. And so I'm really thankful. Jessica, thank you so much again. Owen, thank you so much. Happy to take any questions. I see some chats. I'll open those up. We can go from there. Thank you, Steele. And I do thank you. Yeah, I was doing some private messaging with some people on here and I was saying, I'm just really thrilled that glue is putting this kind of resources behind there and has really wanted to include the United Methodist in referring people to us. And so I will pause now. I'm not sure, did anyone see me? I'm sure I saw any direct questions that were lifted up in the chat, but we'll give an opportunity now if somebody wants to lift up a question. If not, we'll get off a little early today. Yeah, we have a question here. It says from Cindy Kennedy. She says, we are in a small town, but it's set to grow quickly. Any ideas? Yeah, Cindy, I'm interested. What is the small town that you're in? But to start to answer your question, what you're seeing is, and you saw it a little bit in the video, you would have seen Church's Care. If you came on with us early on, then Church's Care was one of the first campaigns that launched and we had a directory. I think some of you participated in that, where we were driving explorers to Christmas services in 2021. And actually that was one of the emphasis late in 2020, was hey, let's go back to church for Christmas. And that campaign is still active. Church's Care is still an active campaign and it's really a felt needs campaign right now.  It is just one of many campaigns. I'm really excited to announce that The Chosen is going to be partnering with us to launch their own form of these types of campaigns. The Chosen TV series actually has a lot of people already that reach out to them and say, hey, I wanna know more about this guy named Jesus. Can you tell me where I can learn more about him? And they don't know what to do with them. They don't know how to hand them off to local ministries. They don't have a tool that can do that. And so we are gonna step in and we're gonna close that gap for them. And so if you choose to participate in that campaign, which is just gonna be a setting in your glue settings, then you will start to receive people that have seen The Chosen and say, I wanna talk about that. I wanna talk about what I saw. There's several campaigns. We expect there to be over a dozen active campaigns by the end of the year. And so to take that back to your small town, there might be campaigns that target specifically rural areas. And they speak differently to certain geographics of the country. There will be campaigns that target different types of felt needs. It won't just be about the things that you've seen. It won't just be about skeptics or people struggling with anxiety, people struggling with depression. It'll also start to branch out into other areas of life, like marriage and family. And so this model, if you will, is scalable, I would say, to all geographies. It is focused specifically in the United States. We are working though, what does this look like globally? But that's a great question. And I would say that it is made by design to be able to scale to these different cities. And Cindy, I'll add to that. So on one of these presentations, I don't remember which one I was paying attention to the maps and they're in Lamar County, which is Paris is the county seat. There was all of these, there was a number of requests. And so they had showed me a map that said, here's where our requests are and here's our churches. And so they had these requests in Lamar County, but there was not a single church in Lamar County that had registered. And so those persons who got a request said, well, you know, may I get referred to a church in Greenville, but there wasn't a church in that area. And so there are, again, they're talking about targeting different groups and so forth. But with what they have already done, they're getting inquiries, they're getting inquiries from rural areas already. And so from a diverse area. John, what is the cost for us? I'll let them pitch that as well. And in the conversations, the cost has been covered by sponsors to glue. And so at this season, there is not a cost to the local church that the local church is having to cover. And I want to be clear that there is a cost. Obviously there's a lot of costs involved with this, but that cost has been covered by a donor. If somebody wants to speak to that. Yeah, yeah, it has. Good explanation, Owen. There is a cost and it is significant, but what we did before we ever launched this initiative is our CEO, Scott went and visited with many family offices and just really blessed philanthropist and Christian leaders around the United States. And they said, we want to come alongside ministry. I mean, it really has been framed since the start. Guys, this is a rescue opportunity. This is a rescue mission for us to rush in and say, where are the gaps? Where do we need to close the gaps? And that's what's happened. The 150 million is coming from just that he gets this campaign. That is a totally separate campaign. That's not even including the millions of dollars that have already been raised to cover the cost for every church that's participating. So yeah, there is no cost. That is, we have scholarships that will cover at least the next 12 months of this. And so as you start to come in and you sign up, you're covered for your first year and we hope to keep that the case. We'll continue to go out and raise more funding and make sure that this stays in a place where it doesn't become a burden to local ministry budgets. So with our next question that I saw in there from Angela Williams, do we need only one account per church or should each pastor open an account? One account per church, it is set up in a way that you can add additional team members. Great question. But we do have it set up to where you can manage what's going on around your church. And it is also so that you can assign out those explorers that are coming in to different people on staff. And then they'll be able to all communicate through the same account. So if they do choose to communicate via the text messaging tools that are in GLU, then you'll have the ability to keep track of who's being responded to, how long is it taking to respond to people, how many of your people are getting responses back, that type of thing. There is training guys that, when we talk about cost, we don't want to ignore the fact that there is going to be a process where you have to ask, are my people ready? Is our congregation ready to have these types of conversations? If I wanted to pull people in, is my staff ready? Do I have volunteers that are coming alongside me? Am I ready to have these types of conversations? I will say this for anybody that is wondering, hey, we might have some really tough conversations. I was talking with the team at Life Church a few weeks ago, and he made a really good comparison. He said, so far, our experience with these connections are that it's a lot like prayer requests. There's some prayer requests that we get that are, hey, they're pretty average, and we're like, yep, we know exactly how to respond to that. We follow up really quickly. There's others that are a little bit, they grow in severity, and then there's some that are just like, man, we need to make sure that we respond correctly and that we actually pull in additional resources to help with this situation. There might be things like that. Let me tell you that they have already been filtered by the time they get to you, anything that is extremely severe and needs an immediate follow-up from a professional is being filtered out, and they are being handled by professional Christian organizations, and we are seeing things like that. People that are in very, very severe places, we have seen those, but we are keeping those from being passed along to churches. So something to just be aware of. Yeah, thanks for that. And I think that's real helpful because there is some trepidation. You hear people are dealing with depression or other severe issues to know that many of those are being filtered out, but I do think there's also probably additional training in the same way you would train whoever's working front desk at your church. When somebody walks in, how do you respond to them? The same way we have a new front door to our church which is online and being having that same kind of training of how do you respond to certain situations? It's really helpful. The next question was, when someone fills out the connect with someone local form, what is the algorithm that determines which church is contacted? That's a great question, Kevin. And that's something that we are working pretty tight on. Glue is known for our ability to run data models and to really understand people. Our journey right now, the season that we are in is to maximize the number of people filling out those forms. In order to do that, we've got to be pretty limited in what we ask of them. And so we are not able to capture a whole lot of information just yet about exactly the season of life that they're in. We know what they're asking for. They have an opportunity to type in what they're struggling with. But what we are doing right now is we're maximizing connections. We're doing that based on proximity right now and based on how churches are responding, how many explore connections churches can receive. And so there's not a whole lot of science in it right now other than these people are looking for the message of hope, the message of the gospel. You are a ministry who says I can deliver the message of hope, the message of the gospel. That is about the extent of that connection today. We are going to advance that pretty quickly over the coming months. We will start to know more about your ministry and what it is that you offer. We're gonna start to know more about those explorers and what it is they're looking for. And so we will be able to make better connections not just based on proximity in the future. But great question. And I can answer the next question from April. Is the theology United Methodist? This is not a United Methodist organization. It's a ecumenical organization that's seeking to connect a diversity of churches. And I just put the link in there from the, that shows a lot of the YouTube videos that would be shown. And so you can be very aware of what you would be connecting your local church to. And I would not be promoting it if I found anything that's being advertised as contrary to our theology, but it's definitely not United Methodist specific because this is very much designed to be a Christian ecumenical approach of which I'm thankful that they have chosen to include the United Methodist in those efforts. And so I put a link in there. You can watch more of the videos. You can seek and determine whether it's something you want to connect your local church to as well. So a good question with that. Anybody, the Jasmine Rivera asked, will the trainings be done on site? Can you speak more about the trainings that you offer? Yes, I can. Sorry, Peter, I was just reading your question as well. We do offer a number of questions. Were you asking me that by the way? I'm sorry, or was that Jessica? Yes, Jasmine asked about that. You had mentioned about trainings. Yes. Can you speak more about that? So yeah, we have, when you sign up, and Jessica, this is gonna enter the question that you asked as well, what happens when you sign up? When you sign up, you are going to get access to a resource library. There's lots of videos. There are how-tos, there's a whole guide that says, hey, here's a lot of the responses that we're getting from explorers. Here are the questions that they're asking. And maybe here's some guides on how you might train people to respond to them. We are not trying to really bring any sense of a specific theology other than Jesus and scripture. And so he gets us, I will say, to respond to what you were just talking about, Owen, this is not any one particular denomination, although that you are not the only people asking that question. This group is not the only people asking that question. But the family that is behind this, they've been asked to remain anonymous, but you would know them, you would know their names, you would be, in fact, I bet a lot of you participate in some of their businesses, and they have been championing Christianity for a long time, the family that is behind this. And so much like the chosen, the goal is to remain directly in scripture and just tell what the Bible says about Jesus and who he was and what he stood for. So that's the primary objective of this particular campaign. There will be other campaigns that might lean into different denominations as we go along. I'm not sure, I don't know of any that are right off the cuff, but I know that there will be some that start to focus on various things. So yeah, in terms of training, it is, how do we speak to those things? How do we answer questions like that? You won't be the only ones that have those questions. Your congregants who wanna lean in on this and are seeing these commercials, they might come to you and they might have these questions. Your staff is going to have these questions. So we wanna equip you to answer those. We don't do a whole lot of onsite trainings. We expect there to be a lot of events. Our role is really leaning in with Jessica, leaning in with Owen and equipping them and giving them back the data that allows them to better serve as well. And so, you know, Jessica, and as you guys are thinking about how do you start to respond to just the reaction after the next few months, how do you guys think about convenings and doing more of things like this? Yeah, we'll be interested in following up, see how many church are getting involved. And as we're wrapping up, if you have further questions or wanna know more, Jessica is our go-to person in the Center for Church Development as the Mission Coordinator. You can send connections to her and she can connect you with, she can point you in the right direction. We'll just saw one come in that will, will there be a community within the United Methodist Church to discuss the learning or perhaps a pilot program to talk about effectiveness? Yes, and so we're staying connected with GLU. And so GLU is gonna know automatically who in the North Texas Conference is getting registered.  And then we will want to know on the other side of this, are you getting references? Is this working? Is this something we need to, you know, we're, you know, the kind of question about is there a pilot program? We're in the pilot program. We are piloting a program right now. Now there's been some pilots before this, but this is still, I would say, very much in a pilot phase for all of us. And so we'll be wanting to continue to get feedback on that. Yeah, very well said. Yeah, anything else that way, that still you want to share? Jessica has some announcements that we want to make sure we get on people's calendars before we get off here, but I'll turn it over to you or Chris or anyone else from Blue for any final words? That's it from us. Thank you so much. Thank you for the time, everyone. Thank you for leaning in on this. I look forward to staying close with you and just hearing how you're experiencing out there. We will be reaching out as you sign up. We'll reach out just to create a line of contact as you have questions, as you're participating. The number one thing I would say after you create your account, if you scan that QR code and you just fill out the form there, be on the lookout for an email that's gonna be coming in the next few days with details on how to access the new tool where the communication side of it is coming in. And then get ready because the second week of March is when things are really expected to fire up in a big way. So that's the timeline. Thanks so much, everyone. Thanks, Owen. Thank you, Ciel. I just wanted to point something out that you had mentioned, and we have discussed that before. And instead, the campaign is also available in Spanish. So for our Latin pastors or for pastors who are in Spanish speaking churches or speak Spanish, there is also that availability. The campaign is running also in the Spanish language. And as part of for our Center for Church Development, we have an exciting opportunity to meet with pastor Nathan Webb. He is the pastor of a virtual church. They call, he called himself the mayor pastor and it's a church about poor gamers and they call them some nerds. And we're gonna be meeting with him in March 22nd at 1.30. And he'll be talking to us about how the church runs and how everything is going for the church and all the wonderful things that he has been doing. We also will have a conversation with Royce Borg. He's a Reverend in our conference and he just wrote a book. And we will have any conversation with him and we're still setting up the date but it will be around May or June that we'll be talking with him as well. So the events beyond the lookup we're posting our events on Facebook, we're posting them on our webpage on the npcunc.org website. You will see all of our events coming up. And thank you all for being here and for participating with us today. Thank you, Jessica. I just put in a link in about our March webinar which is gonna be Nathan Webb who is doing online community building. So online discipleship of so many of our churches have moved to putting their worship services online. He's going to be focusing on how to do online community and online discipleship. And so put that on your calendar, March 22nd at 1.30 p.m. Well, once again, I thank Blue for being here, for being so intentional about including the United Methodist and specifically the United Methodist of the North Texas Conference. I thank Jessica Margus for coordinating this, putting together and I thank all of you for the ministry that you do, that the witness that you are in your community and just pray God's blessing and extra portions of grace and may the Lord use this tool to send people to encounter the grace that is being experienced in your local churches.