Thanks to champion for sponsoring a portion of this video. I can only draft the player if I know every single team that they have played for. For some players this is so easy, Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs. But if I ask you right now, every team that Tyra Taylor has played for, could you tell me? Because off the top of my head, I have Vils, Browns, Chargers, Texans, and I'm pretty sure he's made like seven teams. We're gonna put my knowledge to the test today. I'm glad you guys liked the college one. I didn't think you guys would like that video that much. I was just trying out something new and you guys did like it. So let's see how good of a team I can build. Also, if I can't get it right, I have to take the worst option available on the board because I still have to draft the player. So in this instance, if I couldn't get it, I'd probably take Tana Hill because he's the worst option. But I know that Lamar has only played for the Ravens. I want Lamar Jackson. Offensive lines where I'm gonna get in trouble because I don't, I never remember these trades. Jalen Smith has been a Cowboys whole career. As for these two dude, I have literally no clue. I'm gonna say Jets and Packers because I don't know. Jalen Smith got picked up by the Packers? I forgot. I can't take Jalen Smith now, damn. All right, let's hope that Connor McGovern or Elkton Jenkins have been with their teams the whole time. Connor McGovern, wait, this is weird. There's two Connor McGoverns in the NFL. There's two. This Connor McGovern was drafted by the Broncos and is now on the Jets. Elkton Jenkins, please tell me you've only played for the Packers. Packers, 2019 to present. Shaquille Barrett, there's no way he has been a Buccaneer his whole life. When Denver had a disgusting, disgusting pass rush, I'm pretty sure Shaquille Barrett was on that team. Although, I don't really want Shaquille Barrett as the pick here, so I'm pretty sure Shaquille Barrett is Denver Broncos, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Filey Chubb is just Broncos. And Miles Jack, I think Miles Jack is a Jaguar for the whole community. Miles Jack, 2016 to present, Jacksonville Jaguars. All right, Aaron Jones, Chris Carson, J.K. Dobbins. J.K. Dobbins, super young, definitely a Raven his whole career. I don't know about Chris Carson, but I don't want Chris Carson anyway. I wouldn't mind Aaron Jones. I think I want J.K. Dobbins. I'm like 99% sure J.K. Dobbins has been a Raven this whole time. I mean, unless he got drafted through a team and then traded to the Ravens, that's the only way I was going to get cut there. But J. Jettas! Definitely a Viking. There's no question. David and Joke, I do not draft him. The Anderson, we definitely drafted the Anderson, but I don't need a half back. I do need a wide receiver. I'm just going to Justin Jefferson Vikings. I'm not going to be looking up. Debo was drafted to the 49ers. Robbie Anderson was on the Jets before the Panthers. Curtis Samuel, isn't Curtis Samuel on the Washington football team right now? Either way, it's my worst pick. I'm not taking it. Debo is my best pick. I got to go with Debo. 88 speed. Calvin Ridley, drafted by the Falcons. Sterling Shepard, drafted by the Giants. Terry McLaurin, drafted by the Washington football team. I love seeing young players. I think I'm taking Terry McLaurin anyway. Hi, technically I'm wrong because they were the Washington Redskins in 2019.  I get it. I got Justin Jefferson, Debo, Samuel, and Terry McLaurin. That's exciting.  What team was Tyran Matthew on before I mentioned the Chiefs? Oh my God, I'm having an aneurysm. I'm having a stroke. He's not been a Chief this whole life, no way. He was on the Cardinals and then the Texans. There's no way I was going to get that. How did I just blank on that? You know, if anything, I would have said Cardinals. I would have remembered Cardinals, but no way I would have remembered Texans. I forgot he had a stint with the Texans. Tredavious White. I have the image burned in that he's been in Bill for a long time, 2017 present. That's huge. And Jabral Peppers. I think Jabral Peppers was a brown at one point. Lemmy, I'm just going to look for shits and giggles, but I'm not taking. Cleveland Browns, 2017, 2018. That's where he was drafted. And then the Giants, 2019 present. Darius Slay, Lion Eagle. Sydney Jones, I don't know anything about you, which makes me think you're young, which makes me think you're Jaguar. Darnell Savage, you are young. I know you are young. And your Packers, Eddie Jackson.  These are very good guesses, because I'm just guessing that they're with the team that I see them on, but I can't picture Eddie Jackson anywhere else. Chicago Bears, 2017 present. Well, I got the best one correct. It was Eddie Jackson. Darren Waller is definitely a raider for life. No, he's not, he's not, he's not, he's not. Darren Waller was drafted to the Ravens. There was a point in time where the Ravens had like Darren Waller hating her so Mark Andrews all at the same time.  Goddard was drafted to the Eagles. I think I want Darren Waller, and I'm pretty sure Darren Waller was a Raven. I'm not even gonna look at the others. I want Darren Waller, I love him. Cameron Jordan, been with the Saints for forever. He's been a God for forever. Devin McCordy, he's definitely been on the Patriots for a long time. Colomac Raiders Bears, that one's easy. Colomac, welcome to the team, baby. Nick Chubb, drafted by the Browns.  Tyrone Smith has been with the Cowboys for forever, and Devonte Adams has been with the Packers for like ever. He's been with Rogers for forever. I think the pick here is Tyrone Smith. I need to verify that Tyrone Smith has been a Cowboys whole career. Yeah, Tyrone Smith's in 2011. It's been 11 years. He's a cracked left tackle. Gotta take him. And the final round is Gilmore. I stopped saying his first name out loud because I always get it wrong.  Ramsey and Vaughn Miller. Ramsey, Jaguars, Rams. Do you have another team? I don't think so. Vaughn Miller is a Bronco through and through. I don't think he's ever not been a Bronco. I don't know about Seth and Gilmore. I guess I'm gonna find out. Steph in Gilmore, Steph on Gilmore.  Oh yeah, he was on the Bills, wasn't he? Bills, 2012 to 2016. Pat's, 2017 to 21. And right now he's a Carolina Panther. I would not have gotten any of that right. Jailor Rams, it is. One of my favorites. So I'm happy with it. Hey, an 83 overall team. I would like to say I think I did pretty solid. I missed a few clutch pickups, but overall, bro, 89 left tackle, 86 left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. It was all really good. We got Darren Waller, Debo, Samuel, Terry, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, our Ravens backfield. Hey, if you were excited to see J.K. Dobbins and then he got injured, enjoy this. Eddie Jackson, K.J. Wright-Miles, Jack Devin White, Khalil Mack, Marcus May, Trinavia Swight, Daniel Hunter, Grady Jaridarysley. Woo! I'm excited, baby. Let's hop into a game. Hopefully if someone's on, nobody plays draft. I'm just praying that there's at least one guy on here. Thanks to the champion for sponsoring this portion of the video. Also, I hope you guys like my fit for today. I absolutely love their gear. I'm excited to show off a little today. Whenever I go out in public, I wanna feel really confident in case I meet you guys or, you know, there's a cute girl out there or something. But it's actually very important to me that whatever I'm wearing, it's not only high quality, but it's stylish and it makes me feel confident when I go out. My champion gear absolutely does that for me. If you wanna totally copy the look, what I'm wearing right now is champions tech weave and cargo olive. Number one, I'm obsessed with this color right now. And number two, I just love how this hoodie fits. I'm 5'10". I always get a large. This fits perfect in a large. It helps me feel confident with a little sophisticated look in there. I actually wore this in gray to the MSU versus Indiana game. And one of the most clutch features on the tech weave is right here, these little eyelets. This boy right here is breathable. So even if the weather changes, I still feel comfortable. And obviously this isn't all they have. You should definitely shop right now at champion.com. There will be a link in the description of this video. They got hoodies, crews, pants, shorts. It's all incredibly high quality, just like the tech weave right here. Again, link in the top of the description. Shop now at champion.com. Thanks to champions for sponsoring that portion of the video. Enjoy the rest guys. Miles Jack, Colomag, Jalen Ramsey. He's got Saquads, Jair Alexander, Bobby Wager. I like this to be a good matchup. Okay, bye. He just wants to draft another team. In reality, it was your boy Pizza and he was literally mortified of the idea of playing me. Hi, Fobin. Look at, look at Fobin. Hi, Fobin baby. You wanna go outside? I think Fobin wants to go outside. Ooh, Jalen Ramsey, Derek Henry, Bobby Wagner. I hope it'll be a good game regardless. Ah, no. What? How did I not get that? Throw it right over my head. So disrespectful. I'm blitzing a lot of people right now. This is really sketchy. Ooh, maybe not. Maybe we guessed perfectly. Go low on Derek Henry every time. Never tackle high. You will get trucked through. Miles Jack in the middle of the field. Thank you, Miles Jack, for only playing for the Jaguars. I appreciate you for that. This is Inside Zone. Structure. Let's go all the way, just like this. Showboat all the way. I'm gonna showboat all the way there, baby. I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there. Oh my God, I actually got there. I didn't expect to get there. Let's go.  Also thank you, Jalen Ramsey. I'm glad I know your teams. And Darren Waller, you're homeless. You don't deserve a home. You don't deserve basic human rights. He fell? Would he jump over me? How did that happen? Jake, you're not going to the end zone, buddy. No, you're not. I am gonna bomb this, man. I'm cool. I'm gonna... I'm scoring 40 points or he's rage quitting. These are the two options, all right? Slip screen, J.K. Dawkins. I don't think his user will see this. He just nods. We've got, oh, we got lots of room. We got no blockers, but lots of room. And the worst juke of all time. Oh, yep, that's open. I see you scary, Terry. Can't really stiff arm, but you know what? We got the first. Let's go. I gotta score 40. I said I'd score 40, so I'm gonna do it. Justin Jefferson, torch him, dude. Torch him, Justin. He torched him. But does he torch the safety?  Hey, thank you for being on the Vikings, baby. Wow, got up, got big. And we're going with another fake. Another fake for the boys. He's on the wrong side. We're gonna throw X and we're just gonna... I'm not gonna score 40 if I can't get my two points, bro. 40 bomb. We're going for the 40 bomb here, baby. You can't catch me, boy. You can't catch me. Ah! You can catch me. Just barely caught me at the two. I could probably give it to the Domins actually around the edge. That edge should seal. Let's go for it. Quarterback power. Yup, juke inside. I got warped into that. Okay. Keep going, X. Keep going! A ball! That was a horrible pass. I thought X was gonna keep going to the sideline.  I got that momentum for improved blocking. Yup, yup! Ah! Fourth and 12. You putt. I need my 40 bomb. McLaurin could torch his man here. He's there! He's totally there! Go, Scatter! We're gonna show about that in. I need my 40 bomb, baby. Finally got one. 20 to seven. Get him, baby. Whoo! Clomax got two now. Ah! That's okay. So it was a clock action. Third and six. One more. One more big stop. Ben, don't break. Fourth and five. I'm calling the timeout.  He expects the big blitz. I'm gonna go full coverage. Great play call. Get it! Oh, I got a shot. 18 seconds left. Ah! What did I say? I said a 40 bomb or a rage quit and that's a rage quit. Let's go!  The only thing that would be awesome is if EA would please update this. This has so much potential.  If every single card that's an ultimate team was in draft champions. So you could get like most feared 93 overall Travis Kelsey on your final round. But if all the cards are in there, then you really have to think about building your team. Also, there should only be 12 rounds maximum. Every player in bot, you're not guaranteed a single position. You can draft as many times as you want and then let me go into head to head. I love you boys. Thanks for watching as always.  And thank you to Champion for sponsoring this video. I'll see you in the next one, boys. Peace!


cause they were playing four of my games. And I thought they were going to have a good chance of winning. Yeah, 15, 14, 7, and 3, and I was going to say, I'm just going to put a sticker on the game. Yeah. He's a fair shaker. He's a fair shaker. Oh, there you go. Michael is saying a two out of four sold for 10, 26 in early April. Yeah, that's pretty nice. And that's a card that could even go up in value as we get closer and closer to the NFL season. Are people grading out of fours? Would that be a grade candidate? But if like, I mean, I was just on the other, I was just talking with Jason about the position that the Texans put themselves and how good it was. You know? All right, gang, well, we're in the last hour of the show. What should we do? I feel like we should at least, we got to do a couple of these fillers. I feel like we should at least do one of these tonight. So maybe we can do this before we close it on it. I've never told you that. I don't even know what Weather's Candy is. Is this Carl Weather's Candy? If it was Carl Weather's Candy, I might be interested in that. And if we got some people interested in that football mixer, that 20% off is tonight only. So we're in the last hour of the show, ladies and gentlemen. I feel like we could at least, maybe we can convince someone to take 20% off. Because probably those teams are probably going into some sort of fillers tomorrow. Just put in the code DraftMixer at checkout. You add to cart, and then you click the checkout button, on that page there'll be a place on the top right-hand corner to do that. Hey, Michael, you're welcome. Thank you. Appreciate you getting into all of the breaks. I always like to say, you can't win if you don't play.  I feel like I've shouted out your name a number of times over the last month or so, so I appreciate you. So once again, boys and girls, last hour of the show and counting, we're quickly going to be in the last 45 minutes of the show. I would love to see if we can squeeze in another, maybe a filler pack or something like that before we call it. We're, I don't think I've even heard of this brand. Oh, I've seen this brand before. But it's usually like grandma candy, isn't it? Butter candies, caramel hard candies, and stuff you get at grandma's house. No thanks. I know, I'm out on caramel. Caramel? Caramel, it just sticks in between your teeth. It's terrible for your teeth. No thanks, I'm out, out on those. All right, so ladies and gentlemen, last chance for 20% off.  If I don't know how when, if there's like a timer on this code, I don't actually don't know how that works, or we have to manually do it. So maybe even when we go off air, maybe there might still be some time where you can use it. But it's going to disappear at some point before tomorrow, before we go live tomorrow. So if you were thinking about a team, even like, if you get like, what's the most expensive team right now, I think would be the $3,000 chiefs. So let's do a little math for you. So first of all, at 20% off, you're saving $600. So it'll be from $3,000 down to $2,400. Then you divide that $2,400 divided by 93 boxes. That makes the chiefs about $26 a box. If you kind of think of it that way, you know, so except we're just doing all ninths, I mean, over the course of time, you'll probably pay, you'd be happy to pay $26 a box for the chiefs in any of these breaks, right? Whether it's limited to Immaculate, to NT, to Panini One, Prism, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. In fact, I don't think if we did like a one box picker team, I don't think the chiefs would be $26 at all. They'd be, I bet they'd be more than that in most of these one box breaks. So if you break it down that way, I think you should get a team.  That's a steep discount if you think about it. It'll even work for the less expensive teams. Let's say Cleveland, this is for you, $500, right? Now you take 20% off that. That's a $100 discount, $400, right? And then divided by 93, and you're looking at $4.30 a box. 93 boxes, ladies and gentlemen, think about it. So take advantage of the, and there's so many different years, from 2011 to 2023. Flawless collegiate, Immaculate, Optic, Immaculate, from 2022, 2018 Immaculate, 2022 Immaculate, 2020 Optic, 2022 Flawless collegiate, two box, 2017 Classics. That's where the Mahomes comes into play. We have 2017 Classics there again. So three box of 2017 Classics. And then, yeah, so that's pretty good. That's where you go Mahomes hunting. 2018, you know, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson hunting.  All-card chip, big monster potential of all these, with all these boxes. Yeah, someone did buy the Raven straight up. Aaron bought the Raven straight up. Yeah, I can tell you. He's usually a buyer in the Ravens. Ravens were $2,000. Oh, so 2011, what a blast from the past. 2011 Cam Newton, Vaughn Miller, A.J. Green, Julio Jones, J.J. Watt, you know, Andy Dalton, Randall Cobb, that's just the first two rounds. 2012 was your Andrew Luck RG3 draft. Ryan Tannehill, Luke Keekley, Chandler Jones, Doug Martin running back, Bobby Wagner. 2013, it's your Eric Fisher draft. Tyler Eifert was in here. DeAndre Hopkins, Cordero Patterson, Zach Ertz, Darius Leigh Gino, Levyon Bell, Eddie Lacy, Travis Kelsey, Keenan Allen. You gotta think about all the different years, too. I mean, 2017 is not just about Mahomes, or the Chiefs are just not about Mahomes, right? Different years, they're picking up different guys like Travis Kelsey, too. Oliver, what's going on? There he is. Oliver could afford a big mixer team. Jadevion Clowney in 2014. A lot of Pro Bowlers. You like to see all the orange here, all the highlights here. A lot of defensive guys. Eric Ebron, Odell Beckham, Jr., right? So on and so forth. Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Devonte Adams. 2015, James Winston-Mariota year. Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon, Tyler Lockett, David Johnson, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, Michael Hickey looked it up, and he said a two out of four sold for 10-26 in early April. And I'm saying, could it be more? I don't know if people graded those things, but the thicker cards, I think people are hesitant about grading, but you could possibly get it graded. You get it backed by the football season. CJ Stroud's gonna have Stefan Diggs to throw too, and whoever else they get in the draft. I don't know how often do people grade? I feel like people do grade the spectra cards, right? I don't think they're, they don't have as many issues as say like Immaculate or some of the other thicker cards where people are like, ah, I don't, we don't like to grade those because it's not super thick, you know? So I feel like we do see the thinner spectra cards. What's a good example? Like Obsidian has the same kind of card stock size. I feel like people do grade Obsidian, but I would do a little research. You know, I don't know if the one that Michael looked up was, was graded or not. Don't think it was, it might be worth a shot and just pray that it comes back like a PSA 10. But if it does, man, I mean, I feel like that was certainly Michael and the others, there's Mike, yeah, he said he'd grade it because if you get a PSA 10 on that, so if that's raw and it sells for a thousand in the off season, yeah. I mean, I'll give it to you now if you want to come by. That's always an interesting debate. Eric Houston saying am I wrong in saying there's no point in grading one of ones? People, I think the only reason why people do grade the one of ones is just to put them in a slab to have them protected. But you do run the risk that if it grades out at a PSA eight or something like that, it's gonna be hard to resell. If you're PCing, if you're personally collecting the card and you're probably not gonna sell it, I would just slab it up. I would find maybe a third party grading company, someone that has like a nice slab, you pop that into a slab, just not grade it, you know? It's a risk. I feel like if you do grade a one of one and it grades out PSA 10, I think it does make a difference. That depends on how spicy you're feeling about it. But philosophically, you're right. The whole point of grading is so you can compare it to other similar cards. Like especially if it's a base card, you wanna know if that base card's better than this base card, that's why you grade it. If it's a one of one, technically, philosophically, there's only one of those, so there's nothing to compare it to. So I guess you're just grading base off of, I mean really, if the grading companies were nice, they would just always grade a one of one, the highest grade, because you wouldn't compare it to anything. But I think they still look at the corners and the edges and all that, they'll grade it as if it's just a gradeable card. But I see what you mean though, that people always debate that. But right, but the risk is if it, you know, what if it comes back like a PSA nine, PSA eight? I guess you can always crack the slab back open and take it back out, but it's a little, the one of one's a little riskier.  Yeah, then you snap it, right?  You know, that would be ideal. But it's like the blessing and the curse of the one of one. Let me know what that CJ Stroud grades out at though. Yeah, a lot of people sleeping on the Texans because they're like, well, CJ Stroud doesn't have autos, you know, and I'm just like, oh man, any of those low numbered inserts, base cards, rookie cards, you know, they're all going to be a lot. Oh, you know what? We were going through the different years of our football mixer. So yeah, 20, where are we at? 2015, 2016, that was the Jared Goff Carson, Wensier, Ezekiel Elliott. Who else? Derek Henry year, Michael Thomas year. It's pretty nice. Austin Hooper year, 2017, Miles Garrett, Mitchell Trebisky, Mahomes, Deshawn Watson, Christian McCaffrey, Evan Ingram, TJ Watt, David Joku, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Juju, Alvin Camara, Cooper Cup, Chris Godwin, Karim Hunt. That's just the first few rounds, that's a nice draft. 2018, Baker Seyquan, Sam Darnold, quarterback Josh Allen, obviously. Right, Lamar Jackson, Nick Chubb. I mean, we're 13 years in that mixer, ladies and gentlemen. Cortland Sutton, Cortland Sutton was a pro bowler, DJ Shark. Dallas Goddard, baby. Yeah, Dallas Goddard, Mark Andrews. That's just the first few rounds. 2019, that's the Kyler Murray class. Daniel Jones, Jacksonville, Josh Allen, T.J. Hawkinson. Oh, it's Brian Burns, Exeter Lawrence, Josh Jacobs is in there, Debo is in there. A.J. Brown, Miles Sanders, Meikle Harman. So yeah, another reason to get, that's why the Chiefs are kind of expensive. You think it's just Mahomes, right? It's not, remember, it's 13 years. Kelsey, Mahomes, Meikle Harman. Kareem Hunt was a Clyde Edwards-y lair. All those RPAs add up. DK Metcalf, Deontay Jones, Terry Maloran, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 2020, 2020, bangles, right? Joe Burrow, Dolphins, Tua, Chargers, Justin Herbert, CD Lam for the Cowboys, Justin Jefferson for the Vikings, Patrick Queen for the Ravens, Deandre Swift, Jonathan Taylor, Trayvon Diggs, Jalen Hertz, A.J. Dillon, I mean, could probably get a Pro Bowl someday, J.K. Dobbins, some solid second tier running backs, Antonio Gibson, you know, we always think about the top tier guys, but even the second tier guys are really good too. Devin Duvernay, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 2021, Tila, Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Najee Harris, you know, Kaderius Tony, I mean, they're like, and think about this, this is just 2021, so there's still opportunities for guys to become Pro Bowlers in the next season or two. Who are future Pro Bowlers on this list? Jalen Waddle could probably get a Pro Bowl. Deontay Smith will probably get a Pro Bowl at some point. Right, there's some future Pro Bowlers on this list.  Raiders Devine Diabolo has been playing well as a linebacker, that could be a future defensive Pro Bowler, right? Then we go to 2022, I mean, there's so many future Pro Bowlers here, right? Dayton-Hunterson-Sausgaard are already Pro Bowlers, right? I mean, Drake London, wide receiver could be a Pro Bowler, Garrett Wilson could be a Pro Bowler. If he gets a full season of Aaron Rodgers, Chris Olavi could be a Pro Bowler, Jameson-Williams Pro Bowler, possibilities, you know, I'm sure Kenny Pickett will get a starting job again somewhere, that's potential Pro Bowler, you know, there's a lot of future value, Breece Hall, Kenneth Walker, Pro Bowl possibilities for some of these guys, George Pickens, Alec Pierce, Skye Moore, James Cook's already a Pro Bowler, you know what I mean? And then 2023, last year's draft, right?  Yeah, and that's the other thing, it's like, sure, we're also rookie focused, but think about if you get any of the current stars, popular retired players, you know, Hall of Famers, right?   Like those are really nice mosaic choice, limited, old 2012 SP authentic, all of these boxes, you know, have just big hit potential, all the prism T-Mall, prism Retail, Obsidian, prism Megas, and all card ship, right? From prism and contenders and all that sort, and optic, you know? A lot of great rated rookie cards in those optics that you can pick up as well. So there's a great, it's a great blend of boxes throughout a bunch of different years, you know? Take advantage of that code, ladies and gentlemen. I know you're looking at prices for these teams, and I know there's some sticker shockers, you're not used to seeing pick your team prices like that, but this is our biggest pick your team ever. And there's 93 boxes, do the math. So even the most expensive team with the discount, like the chiefs, do the math again on that, because I think it's 2,400 after the discount, divided by 93 is 26 bucks a box. Chiefs at 26 bucks a box is an incredible deal. I know the challenge is that we've bundled it all at once. I'm sure if we took three months and did one box at a time for the chiefs at $26 a spot, you would certainly do it, but this is scared money don't make money territory. So think about it, folks. At the very least, take that nice, thank you, Michael. Why not, right? At that price point with the discount? So jets are off the board. And I'm pretty sure when we start, I think we're gonna start putting some teams into fillers tomorrow. I'm pretty sure that they'll be at the full price. Right, yeah, Breeze Hall, Soss, Garrett Wilson, even Sam Donald could have new life somewhere. Zach Wilson could still have new life somewhere. I think we should be encouraged by the fact that like Gardner Minchu has been above average, average to above average quarterback, potential average starter in the NFL. That still gives him value as a quarterback in the secondary market. Look at Baker Mayfield. Everyone left Baker Mayfield for dead, and now he's just signed a new, what, two, three year deal with the Buccaneers after having a really nice season. So sometimes there are those situations there where it does take a team, where it does take a quarterback, a team or two, to kind of get into where he fits the best. So Sam Donald, Zach Wilson could eventually bounce into a spot where suddenly it clicks and they become average to above average quarterbacks. Who knows, what's the ceiling for Baker Mayfield now at this point? And now I assure you that whoever's been following the Baker Mayfield market, I'm not sure how robust that market is, but I'm sure his stuff is quietly creeping upwards. Now that he's settled in and he's got a, he's on a Buccaneers team that has re-signed him to a contract, now Buccaneers fans are like, all right, yeah, maybe I can be all in on Sam Donald. I could be all in on Baker Mayfield now as well.  Collegiate cards, we go by the checklist. So if it's an, if the product was pre-jets product, it'll go to the Packers. But if it's like 2023 collegiate, then the team that he was on in 23 was the Jets, so he would go to the Jets. There was, but see, there are some years where there was a checklist, but that's because it's a current year. There were like group rate checklists used to do team checklists for like some of the older collegiate stuff. But obviously for 2023, that would be easy, right?  I mean, we used as an official checklist before they stopped doing that. It's kind of bummed that they were, but I guess a lot of people started doing checklist and stuff. I'll consult with Nick and we'll have a ruling before Thursday. Charles Barkley is gonna tear an ACL if he does this. Watch that ACL, Chuck. How old is Charles Barkley? 61. Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons why it just never, you know, why they kind of stopped doing it. You know, because so many people started inside the NBA is great. But yeah, I think a lot of, they started to crop, but like a lot more checklist services started to crop up. So I think they went by the wayside, but they're always, I think like Nick knows one of the guys, one of the guys used to like break with us too, here and there. Not, it wasn't a regular, but would pop in here and there. Chuck and Shaq on a box. I feel like we need one of those at the shop. Why, why are they, why are they hitting Perk?  Oh, oh. That's what they call those.  Oh. Oh, that's what they were taught. I can't remember that. Should we get one of those like, those like stand up like heavy bags? One of those? Yeah, that's inside the NBA. It's one of the best, one of the best shows out there, I think. I walkie talkie. Well, I guess we're a little under 10 minutes away from the top of the hour. And yeah, we got that jet order from Michael, but that's our only order in the last, oh, almost an hour now at this point. Over an hour, hour and a half. I think the writing is on the wall, boys and girls. If you have any last minute questions about the mixer or any of the fillers, definitely let me know. We're gonna push to get that, we're gonna push to get that five star across the finish line for sure. We've gotta get that done tomorrow. So hopefully we can get that, we can get that moving. But, much nicer day than yesterday. Yesterday, yesterday the second half was ice cold, we heated up a little bit in the second half of this show. So I appreciate everybody putting in the work on that. Got some breaks that were kind of straggling on the website across the finish line. Maybe we can do the same with five star tomorrow. We'll keep working on that football mixer. It's safe for people, that's the way the plan is going to be. But that's not true. That's pure bias. It's not a mistake, it's taken a step forward. So it needs to be safe. I think that's because it needs to be safe. It needs to be safe or it should play forward. And don't let it go, don't break it. Over and over again. A lot of people are using this for ways to come out. It doesn't help get it over like shooting the entire community. It's not like a... Divergent. Divergent is also something that's really popular in young adult novels. Right, I think it's an old thing. You might have heard of it before. It's just 2493 simple. Right, the thing is, before it was like winter tomorrow, you're like walking through a circle. There's no illustrator. Yeah, yeah. We're coming out. Two, we're coming out. Where are you? In the room. Yeah, the room is now at the table. So, what year was it? It was about a year. It was about a year until you paid with it. It was about two minutes. So, you're working with it. So, essentially, if you're really rich, you're going to be a little bit forever. You're not going to need more. After you get that sort of income, you're going to stay at the same age. Well, really, you just work with the same age. You can be like 100 years old, you can't be like, you're just going to stay at the same age.  Now, I think that's a lot of... All right, friends, we're at the top of the hour. No questions, no nothing, huh? All right, gang. So, I'll be back tomorrow. Tomorrow is Wednesday. I don't think we have a major new release tomorrow. So, let's work on that football mixer tomorrow. Nothing really big this week. So, football mixer, that's the big new release. So, let's get in on that. So, think about it overnight. Get your spots, get some teams, and use the discount code. That might still be active overnight. Nick might not even get to it until tomorrow, but taking advantage of that could disappear at any time. All right, have a great night, sleep tight. I'll see you tomorrow at 3 o'clock.


Thomas Van Der Waal, he says, you know, John, there's a massive rethink needed as many of the problems areas still are huge gaps. So there's still huge gaps be filled and yet there's a massive rethink around them. You're involved in looking at some of the future problems and services that could come out around these complex environments. I mean, look at what Haruku did, for example, with what they did with Ruby. They basically took a developer environment and encapsulated away all the, extracted away all the complexities for configuration management and so on and so forth. So that's going to be more the norm, but there are still huge gaps for IT departments that are operating there. What do you see there? So great question. I mean, proactive care, which is a new offer as part of our new portfolio. You know, one thing that's consistent globally from our customers, they keep asking, you know, keep my system running, keep my system up to date, and ideally fix it before it breaks, which talks to the whole notion of being proactive. And if you look up the word proactive, you'll find that it really means acting in advance of a problem or dealing with a problem before it even occurs. So, proactive care is designed all around the concept of mitigating risk in the IT environment. So what we first do when you sign up as a proactive care customer is we come in, assess your end-to-end environment, and look for potential risks in the configuration, in the firmware, in the versions of software that you're running, in the policies, in the knowledge gaps of your people, and try and put in place a plan to make sure that all of the proactive services can then be delivered to get you to a best-in-class configuration and then keep you there, and of course that minimizes risk, avoids downtime, expensive downtime in these environments, and is very, very valuable. So I asked Thomas to clarify, because it was kind of a broad question. I kind of, you know, took liberties in putting in my little editorial on that on that first question. He then followed and said, in the B2B space, the identity federated spaces for work is really painful. Also distributed systems loosely joined through a standard is key. So, you know, HP, as it always said, standards are, it's your standard-based, and you're open in the way you built your systems. It's been fabulous from three-com all the way down to everything else, so there's no problem there. I give a good checkpoint on that. Others go proprietary, we know who they are, Oracle, et cetera, but this is a good point. Whole identity management systems, et cetera. How do you talk about that? So I think the, you know, HP, well-recognized as a partner-friendly company, and when it comes to the single-pointer contact, as if you sign up as a proactive care customer, we're covering your end-to-end environments.  There's no finger-pointing between, let's take an example of a customer who has an issue in their environment. They're not sure where the issue is. Is it hardware? Is it hypervisor? Is it Windows? Is it Linux? They can call that single number and we can then either solve the problem, over 90% of the problems that come in on Linux, for example, or dealt with by our experts in the Advanced Solution Centers. We don't need to hand off to a third party, but if we do need to connect with those third parties, with the world's largest IT company, we have deep relationships with the Novels and the Red Hats of this world and the VMwares of this world, so we can really help resolve those issues very, very quickly and very efficiently. Well, just to continue, you got a great conversation going on with some folks that are in the space. So, on Twitter. So, again, I've been following HP for many, many years on the services, so I will say that I'm pretty close to what you guys are doing, but I think there's a perception problem out there in the, I would call the general public, where one size fits all, solution, one stop shop has been a buzzword out there, so Tom follows up and says, one system for all has never worked and is more problematic now than ever. It's the cocktail approach, not the neat approach. So I think what he's saying is, a general sentiment in the market around, the fud around that one size fits all, one stop shop. Now, I will give you guys credit, HP is a one stop shop in the sense of saying one point of contact, not the one stop shop for everything. Could you just clarify and just parse through that, because that's kind of an important point that you're referring to.  A hyperscale customer is a perfect example where they need very special attention and it varies customer to customer. With proactive care, the common theme that we've heard, as I said, from customers globally, there's we've tried to keep the service deliverables, the mandatory deliverables as consistent as possible and keeping my system running, keeping it up to date and fixing it before it breaks, i.e., speaking to the notion of proactive, is consistent across the globe. So, proactive care, what you get with proactive care as a minimum, you can of course add any of the additional proactives. HP's been in this business for a very long time. We have a market leading position in terms of the amount of different collateral and IP we have, but from a proactive care point of view, there's three critical elements that you get as a customer. Firstly, platform revision management, and what that does is we come in at the start and then on a regular basis through the year and we check all of your firmware and software to make sure it's the very latest versions, make sure everything's up to the standard that it should be and of course that helps minimize any problems or issues. Second thing, proactive scan. This is a really big deal where we come in, we've done tens of thousands of implementations globally so we'll map your configuration against what we know to be a best in class configuration and look for any gaps or any inconsistencies in, for example, configuration files, performance, security, all of the different threats that we might know to be out there. So, proactive scan is a critical one and then another element that you get with proactive care is the quarterly incident report where we sit down and we look at all of the activity that happened within the last three months. We look for trends and for reoccurring problems. There's some great examples. I just work with a customer who had a problem. It was causing all sorts of outages and they couldn't really figure out what the problem was and we looked at the incident report and over the period of three months we realized that one of our technical specialists in the call center realized that there's a pattern going on and it was actually a loose cable. So, the customer was trying to fix their kernel, they were trying to fix the hardware, they were trying to add more configuration, more hardware, but actually the problem turned out to be a cabling issue and it was looking at that three month history that allowed us to be able to do that. So, those are the three critical elements. Making sure your software is current, making sure that you're best in class from a configuration point of view and then making sure you're learning from the incidents that occur on a quarterly basis and putting improvement plans in place. Do you see those features becoming more self-service, even more frequent than that or is this sort of the right mix based on what customers are telling you? Well, what customers are telling us? I mean, what we've heard many times from customers is we're spending too much time firefighting and delivering and working on operational type issues. I used to be a system admin at a previous customer of HP and I can tell you my whole team was involved in doing patch management and firmware upgrades and dealing with all sorts of operational issues and it was a constant frustration for the management that we never could get to implementing the new strategies and the innovations. I'll give you a great example. We have a bank over in Europe that I just worked with where they, coming from a mainframe background, very smart IT staff, they're moving on the journey to cloud and to conversion infrastructure. They purchased thousands of blades. Unfortunately, the channel partner who sold the solution didn't include any services, didn't include any training or knowledge transfer for the staff and we ended up in a real problem situation where the customer, assuming that these things could manage themselves and that their previous knowledge on mainframes would carry them through successfully, it worked okay for a while until they started realizing virtualization, firmware, software, they were loading software at will, they were issuing virtual machines left, right and center, they ended up in a problem situation. So, we came in and helped that customer and within 24 hours we were able to turn on inside remote support. We were able to give them control back of their IT. They sort of lost control of what was going on in that phenomenal technology they just purchased just because they weren't following industry best practice, they weren't doing it right the first time and that's a common problem that we see. All right, Jerry Nolan, thank you very much for continuing the Iris Connection and coming on.