Okay, I'll call the minute to order. It's 7 o'clock on my watch. The first thing we have on the agenda are the minutes of March 15, 2022. Is there a motion? I'll move to approve the minutes for March 15, 2022, subject to modification. Just for a second. A second. And then, page 1, page 2, page 3, and page 4. Hearing no corrections, all in favor of the motion to approve the minutes of March 15, 2022, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No abstentions. I'll move on then to public comment. And Aaron Dickinson is here tonight as the assistant to the town manager and working in place of Eric tonight. So if you would monitor the zoom meeting for people who may wish to comment. Is there anyone in the room who would like to make any public comment on any issues tonight? Seeing no hands here about nothing from the zoom. And we'll move on to our presentation from the trans the regional concerns meeting and. Aaron, you'll introduce our guests Laura stone and Gary Lois. We have Laura stone and Gary Lois here from the Vermont agency of transportation. They've joined us by zoom. And this is a public informational meeting to allow the trans to provide an overview of a. Culvert replacement project on route to near the town line with Richmond. Following the overview, the trans will be available to take questions from the select board and members of the public. And just to note that the scoping study is posted on the town. And Laura and Gary, your panelists, so you should be able to unmute and let me. Spotlight you here. Thank you, Aaron. I'm going to try to share my screen here. Okay, you should be able to. There we go. Does everybody see the. The slide show. Yes, thank you. Awesome. Okay, so welcome. This is the regional concerns meeting for bridge 23. It's on us route to over an unnamed tributary to when you see river. I'm I'm Laura stone. I'm the V trans scoping engineer also with us tonight is Gary LaRouche. He's the V trans project manager. I'm going to run through this presentation really quickly. And then if anybody wants to slow me down or, or ask me questions throughout, or we can just, you know, take questions in the end. That's fine. So the purpose of the meeting, we really want to provide an understanding of our approach to the project. Provide an overview of the project constraints. The alternatives we looked at in the scoping report and really discuss our selected alternative and provide an opportunity to ask questions and voice concerns from the select board and the public. So here's a location map. It is located on us route to it's this green star on the page. Right past the Richmond town line. There's an aerial view so you can see it's kind of in this really rural area surrounded kind of by these farmlands here. So first I'll talk a little bit about the project development process here at V trans. Then again I'm going to go over the project overview that's going to be the existing conditions of the structure. The alternatives we considered in the scoping report and our selected alternative. We're also going to discuss our selected maintenance of traffic. The schedule so when you can expect to see this in construction summary and then I have questions there at the end. So here's just a quick graph of the V trans project development process. This is really just to show that we're in a really, really early stage called project definition, the project has been funded and this project definition phase has been initiated. This is where we identify the environmental resources, the cultural resources, the constraints around the project we evaluate alternatives. The end process of that is a scoping report which Aaron said is posted online. We're at this public participation piece and really what we want to do is build consensus boards are selected alternative. After this meeting is complete. We have project defined that's when the project is going to move into the design process that's when we're going to be quantifying areas of impact. Start the environmental permitting process develop plans, really get that area of impact so we can go through the right of way process if needed. At the end of that project design process contract will be awarded and it will move into construction. Here's a picture looking east overbridge 23 the roadways classified as a rural minor arterial, the existing structure is a seven foot span corrugated galvanized metal plate metal plate pipe arch. There's four feet in length. There's approximately three feet of fill over the culvert. It's really not a lot of fill over the culvert. And so any sort of any condition that's happening with the culvert you're really going to feel that because there isn't a lot of fill you've probably seen the district going out there, making repairs to this culvert because it isn't pretty in pretty serious condition. This is by the state of Vermont so there is no local share for this project it's 80% federally funded 20% state funded, and it's, we don't know when this was constructed was an unknown construction. Here's a picture looking west over the bridge are aerial utilities as well as underground utilities, there is a communications cable I believe it's right above the culvert, and then there is a gas line right below the culvert. Both of those underground utilities will need to be relocated during construction. Existing conditions so like I said the culverts in serious condition, there was a bridge inspecting bridge inspection finding back in October of 2019 stated that the structure was starting to crush along. There was severe section loss in the barrel walls with settlement in the roadway. Additionally, the existing culvert doesn't meet the minimum hydraulic standard or the calculated bank full width and us route to through the project area is substandard and with for the speed and traffic volumes present. So here's a picture of the inside of that culvert there's the barrel. Again it's rated in serious condition it's a three you can see there's a lot of section loss. In this metal culvert and so there is some crushing that's starting to happen there. So there has been some settlement in the roadway above this culvert because of that crushing. And here's another picture here's a picture of the inlet again you can see see that section loss there's a lot of missing sections in that culvert. The bank full width was measured in the field as 10 feet and the existing the existing span of the culvert is 6.8 feet. So again this is also hydrolycally substandard. Another picture of the barrel, not a really great one. A picture of the outlet and so resources here's a picture looking upstream. There are wetlands in the southeast and northeast quadrants of the project. There's archeological archeologically sensitive areas in all four quadrants of the project. This is an important section for wildlife habitat aquatic organism passage so we expect to see some fish going through this culvert, and there are prime agricultural soils. So here's a here's an existing conditions layout of the structure this is like if you're up in the sky like a bird's eye view looking down. So this brown section here that's the existing roadway that's us route to the gray. I don't know if you can see my mouse or not but there's this gray rectangle through here that's the existing culvert, and these red, these red lines here on either side of us route to that is the existing state owned right of way. So for criteria and considerations there's an average daily traffic of 3600 vehicles per day design hourly volume so this is your peak hour of traffic of 450 vehicles per hour, and fairly low truck traffic with 6.6% trucks. So here's what we considered, we looked at no action obviously with this culvert and serious condition, and something has to be done, we put that off immediately. And really because of the substandard hydraulics of this of this pipe. So the only option here was was a replacement structure. So generally on the state system we replace with with concrete structures so this would be a new precast concrete box, it would have a 10 foot five foot waterway opening. These structures are designed for 75 years 75 year design life. Or there's underground and aerial utility relocations aquatic organism passage will be provided so this new structure will be able to pass fish upstream and downstream. And I have here a 2024 construction year. So the selected alternative it's really the only alternative that made sense here. Again was this full bridge replacement with a new new concrete. So I have here. So maintenance of traffic. I'll actually I'm going to get to that in a second. So here's the proposed layout. This is showing an 11 foot five foot typical section. That means to 11 foot trouble lanes with five foot shoulders on either side. And this, and this layout shows a 10 foot span box. So here's the proposed profile. Really there's no going to be no changes to the profile of the road. So selected method of traffic maintenance was a detour a seven day detour so we're going to close the road for seven days. The detour is going to be chosen and signed by the state of Vermont but we will be working with the town to determine the best detour route is there are there are actual actually a couple here. The shortest regional detour route that's a route that would be acceptable for truck traffic is 12 miles and end. There is the shortest local bypass route around is 10.5 miles and end. So here's the first regional detour route available. This is 16.4 miles and and that's if you're going from one side of the culvert driving all the way around to the other side of the culvert so that's the maximum distance we would expect someone to travel that 16.4 miles. And this is us route to to Vermont route 117 and Vermont route to a back to us route to. There is also 89 which parallels us route to in this area. This would have an end to end distance of 12 miles again that's if you go from one side of the culvert to the other. So this is just traveling through on us route to it doesn't add much distance to the through route it's 1.2 miles. And there's the shortest detour route around so this is the local bypass route us route to to 117 and north Williston Road back to us route to. We plan to start construction in the spring or summertime of 2024 because of the serious condition of this culvert. This is kind of on the fast track. We want to get this out in two years. That's why we that's why we went with a with a detour versus a temporary bridge or face construction there's just a lot more involved in in permitting and project development if we were to go that route for traffic control so this project out as soon as we can get it out. There's a total cost estimate of $1.2 million. And project summary so again new precast box with traffic maintained on an offsite detour during construction. We have proposed a seven day closure here. We're going to be a 10 foot by seven foot box. The inverts going to be buried two feet for for that fish passage. So the current typical section along us route to has to 11 foot shoulders to 11 foot travel lanes with three foot shoulders. So we will be increasing the shoulder with to five foot shoulders through the project area. This is expected to have 75 year design life. Again there's going to be utility relocations of the Vermont gas line, the communications lines and aerial aerial utilities. There is a very minor amount of right of way needed. And again we want to get this out into construction in 2024. Here's where I'll take questions and comments before I do there is this website at the top of the page here. So that's where the scoping reports been posted tonight's presentation will be posted at this website and then all future plans submittals, preliminary plans, final plans. They'll be posted at this website. It's a public facing website so anybody can track the life of the project. So I went through that pretty quickly. Does anybody have any questions, comments, concerns, you'd like to know. There may be somebody in the audience here that would like to ask a question or make a comment yes or if you just identify yourself. I'm David Conant. I'm David Conant. I'm the neighboring landowner. We own land on both sides of that culvert. And so we, I guess, we expected that this culvert was going to be changed in 2022. But all indications are 2024. So some of the concerns we have are that it's going to, because of the limited, from what I understand there's four different proposals for traffic. If I understand it correctly, there's one to divert the traffic for a period of a week. And the other one is another one is to build half the half of the culvert and allow traffic to pass on a regular basis. And then build the other half and let the traffic pass on the new part. And the other, or another option was to put a temporary bypass culvert, if you will, on the southern side of Route 2 to allow traffic to pass all the time. From what I read, there was some concern with traffic safety around the construction site, which I understand. We come, depending on the time of year, it's critical that we are able to haul feed. We have about 150 acres of cropland opposite this culvert from the farm. And perhaps even 200 if we have more rented land there. So we are concerned with having to go all the way around one way or the other, and whether it's over either the east side or west side of Route 2. Our concern is that it would be very limiting for us to be able to make that travel around. And we would be willing to allow for that. That bypass right next to the culvert and on on our property there. And I know that the whole the whole project concerns us as well as our neighbors. And not to speak for Ron pocket, but he's sitting here with me. And the concern that I do have is in the in the review of this culvert, they must have noticed that there was a four inch tile line that was put in back way back in the 60s to drain away from the interstate. The highway it that tile line runs across our field all the way up to the interstate fence and there is a sump up there that allows for water running off the interstate and coming down to the brook. It's not a tile line that drains our field. It's a tile line that takes water from the interstate. There was a problem when the interstate was built that there was no provisions for water to move away from that. And my father back in the early 60s convinced the state that there should be provisions made and they they finally ended up allowing for that to happen actually put that in. So I'm concerned about that. And I think it was probably recognized when when there was a view or, you know, the view of the of the project itself, because that pile line is visible there. I know it's a fairly sensitive area. And we are we're also concerned about the runoff from from that from the field into that stream during construction time and whatever. So, I, I'm wondering where the project goes in light of the concerns that the that the community has that surrounds it. And what what concerns are are considered. Sure, so there's kind of a lot to cover there. So in terms of traffic control. Yes, we looked at phased construction where we construct one side of the culvert at a time. And the issue with that is it's extremely risky to a contractor just because of the existing serious condition of the culvert. Because of that crushing that's happening, you know, if we cut that existing culvert in half to start building, we don't know what kind of stability is going to remain on that other half so that that does tend to be a very risky, very risky option here just because of the existing rating of that culvert. So while you would be open to, to a temporary bypass on your land, we call that kind of a temporary bridge. But it still adds a lot of a lot of time a lot of process to the project development timeframe that would be, you know, we'd be looking at a replacement in 2026 versus 2024. So there's just issues, there's archaeological sensitive lands on either on all four quadrants and so that would mean that an archaeological team would have to go out there start taking test pits there's additional permitting that would have to happen there. There's also wetland surrounding which is more additional permitting. And even when we have a landowner that that's willing to give up land or temporarily willing to give up land for those bypasses. It's, it's kind of like the administrative timeline so that that adds a few years on to the project because it's the process it's developing right of way plans, going into the title research. It's just it's it's process that's added. And so really to get this out the door as quickly as possible. That's why we chose a closure. So in terms of the feed and I assume you have a cutting that happens and this is a situation that that we get into pretty frequently. And so what would would happen is because you're the primary landowner right in that area is we would coordinate that seven day closure with you so we would make sure that any any farm operations, any any hay cutting that needs to happen. That happens first and then we close it close the road there and so we would coordinate that timing with you. In terms of the four inch tile line. And that's something that that will be looked at in design if there's anything that needs to happen with that. You know, it's something that something that we've been made aware of and we have a consultant on board for this and so anything that needs to happen there any provisions that that's needed for that tile line can happen. Yeah, it would be great if we could coordinate a time to meet at some point about that so that we could be both on the everyone could be on the on the same page with that. That's that's we're concerned that there there needs to be more of a buffer away from the stream there and we're keenly aware of that. And and I would like to see that better than it is. I knew that this project was coming so but I I we were we thought that this project was going to happen in 2022. So I am wrong. Is that correct. Yeah, so we originally tried to do a replacement kind with this structure. Because it takes a lot of the permitting stipulations away from the project, but we met with an R we met with the Army Corps, just because of the substandard hydraulics here because of the substandard bank full with its been a permittable project. And so really we needed to put in a structure here that meets the bank full with that meets the hydraulic standards and and putting in a project like that. You know it adds additional permitting it adds it adds additional time. So, I believe the district has plans to either go out there or maybe they've already been out there they were going to to stabilize this so so it would make it safe for the next two years until the project does come through. I believe that's happening this summer Laura. Okay. I believe they're going to go out this summer and do some remedial actions to ensure that it's safe for the traveling public until we get to construction to answer your question regarding further coordination for meeting you in person in the future. We have property owner meetings scheduled for around June or July. And once we get into design a little bit further, I'll reach out to yourself and the property owners that surround the project and meet with everybody that's impacted. I'm here with my brother and business partner can we own the nursery greenhouse business just east of that culvert. And so ours is more, you know, the time frame of how it could impact our income or livelihood, which is for us may and June is extremely big. It's a very impactful time for us. So our concern would be how that would impact our livelihood. So if there was a timeframe again, kind of like what you were willing to do with David of communicating with us and maybe talking and seeing what might be the best time for that to happen. That's really our biggest concern is how it would impact us. Sure. And that's something that's, that's, that's a concern we get quite frequently. And that's definitely something that we can work with you on. There are in stream restrictions. And Gary, do you know what the in stream restrictions here would be in terms of timeframe. I don't know off the top of my head. Generally, it's, you know, June to June to the end of August or October, I'm not quite sure, but you know, generally we would be targeting, you know, mid summer. And while school is closed, of course, we've scheduled them for mid July in some instances since that works the best for the property owners to set surround the project, or the community as a whole. So it's, you know, time frame is definitely flexible. I'm not certain and will coordinate, you know, first and second, when first and second cut is for pay and so forth and try to balance concerns with your business as well. Thank you. Thanks. Anyone else in the room who wishes to speak tonight. I'm going to go ahead and zoom who wish. No. What the board any questions from the members of the board. Just really quickly mentioned that they're going to work to short up this this summer just to make it set safe for the next two years until the project happens. What, what sort of impact will that have on travel on that road or will it have an impact at all. I think it will be laying closures. So there'll be like flaggers out there. What well, you know, any construction activities are on site. You know, there may be a few minute delays for one way alternating traffic while they're doing work. Other than that, there should be minimal to no impact to traffic. I forgot to mention, but I this David Conan again. We have a sweet corn business that and probably many are aware of and that starts right around the 1st of August and usually a few days one side of the other. And so that would be extremely critical that it would be great if if something could happen prior to that time that closure could happen between pockets busy time. And our busy time, and which would, I guess, from what we were talking somewhere in that month of July, it's a little slower for them and and and for us and. I realize that it would be a week, but that's a tremendous impact for my wife's sweet corn business. Thank you for considering that sounds like July is the month. Well, thank you, both Laura and Gary for having this meeting with the folks tonight and look forward to having you be in touch with them on a routine basis to get this taken care of. Before we leave this couple quick comments. I know the scope of the project's been looked at quite a bit, but I just want to kind of put two cents in for local residents because I know I'm a small time farmer myself and I know mother nature doesn't always cooperate with hate cutting. And I know we can coordinate, you know, days and times or weeks that could be for closure, but I just would ask for careful consideration for that. I would also ask, I know the pockets well and I know that that's a livelihood that's not just, you know, something that you do out of the graciousness of your heart that's your that's your business. And that's how you make an income. So it just, you know, consider I know there's other options that you've pursued, I guess, and have. I don't want to say close the door on, but our closure does impact a lot of things around just farming and day to day operations that have to happen for. You know, not only feed, but just things that have to be considered. So, and I know you're taking that all into consideration and I just wanted to put that forth for the local residents. Thanks. Yeah, I echo what Gordon says. I mean, as a as a Richmond boy. I know that these folks are pillars of the community and they they they give more than they get. So, any any coordination that could be done would be appreciated by everybody. Good. Thank you. Thank you very much. I think we're, we're good for tonight. So we look forward to a successful project in a couple of years. Thank you. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thanks. Good night. So thank you for coming tonight. And we'll, we'll proceed on their agenda. Thank you. You're welcome to say for that too. Thank you. Next on the agenda is the musky valley park district annual update. And I think we're doing this by remote tonight with both. Nick Warner and executive director and read will us our town representatives. So, Aaron, I'll turn it over to you to introduce the subject. Yes, we also have operations manager Lauren Chico Tia on the line. And the group is here to provide an overview of the work of the musky valley park district over the past year. And your agenda packet included a report of activities and the district's budget for the upcoming fiscal year. And it looks like everybody has a presenter right so should be also good. So, Nick, I presume you're first. Yes, thank you for meeting with us. It's it's been a while, we're kind of off schedule we usually meet with you during the prior to the consideration the budgets I want to thank you retroactively for your support again this year. And also to welcome read will us as our trustee, your representative, and she's been getting up to speed on the many things that we're doing. I'll try keep this to 15 minutes. I just want to preface things by saying, we'll probably be back to you a couple times over the next six months or so once about a specific project that I will be talking about the latter part of this presentation. And then also, presumably we'll be back on track to do our annual presentation in the fall prior to your budget consideration. So, we can go deep with stuff today but I just want to reassure you that we'll be back before this board. And also in front of the conservation board about a couple of other topics. So welcome read. Thank you for joining the board. And I'm going to give you a quick overview, and then I would love to it. And if there's any questions about our budget, which there usually is, and our operations. So we're going to use the second half of our 15 minute allotment to go over an update on a really exciting park project that we were working on over the last couple years with with the town. As everyone has been dealing with coven we've. We both had to streamline our staff and our operations and accommodate a really huge spike in usage in our parks which basically all the park managers across the state have seen since coven began. And I'm happy to report that that's really continued and people are are utilizing out to our assets in a way that they just weren't before coven hit. And initially at the front end of the pandemic we, we went without seasonal staff an entire summer because we weren't sure what was going to happen. And we all kind of pitched in to keep the parks up and going. Then we were able to ramp up again. Last summer, and, and things turned out a lot better than we thought they might have. We have a lot of projects going on. There's a lot of capital upgrades going on utilizing a variety of funding. We are. First of all, we completed the conversion of doorway code, which was our newest park on the mouth of the musky river that's not within Williston but I'm going to talk about our system writ large. We are also working on a grant that Lauren obtained for us through the basin program to completely update our signage and our mapping across our park system which we're really thrilled about. And we also have a grant that we're working on through the trails program to upgrade the boardwalk and steps at the river walk park along near salmon hole in Burlington. And we also received a grant from vorac, which is a statewide grant competition $50,000 to help rebuild the wetlands walk at Ethan Allen homestead in Burlington. We have also really unique project at the homestead which is the Vermont indigenous heritage center is co locating with Ethan Allen museum. And we received a $250,000 grant through Senator Leahy to complete upgrade to that museum building and expand the capability of that building to both provide programming and events and also increase the income stream to the park district. And that's just a short list. We have other grant applications that are going out. A big part of our model is utilizing outside sources to do our capital upgrades and that's going to continue. So once you start going through the slides just to the next one just for those who are not as familiar with us. One second. Description were a hybrid municipality and 501 C three. Williston has been a financial and organizational supporter since I believe 1985. You guys have been consistent in your support. Early on we were very much involved with the development of five tree hill and some of the other park properties. We have not owned a park in your in your town and that became an issue a few years ago with some with some of you guys and we when I came on board really made a strong commitment to make changes with that. So what I'd like to do with your permission is to just do a quick we have a 12 side slides presentation on the so called Jacob Krantz parcel which is a 29 acre parcel that was donated to the town back in 2018. And we've been in conversation with with town leadership and the conservation board and you guys about the potential of us taking ownership of that park and managing it long term so we can start going through the presentation. And pressing the button so this is some context. As I said if you go down to the second to last bullet you know we don't own a park in your town yet. The parcel was donated to the town and we immediately started conversations with Melinda and other people on your staff about whether it made sense for us to take take ownership and to take more responsibility as a within the town of Williston. We felt pretty strongly up front that access to the parcel was was an issue that we needed to create a true public access with some parking and some type of easy access to the trail system, we could just start right through the slides almost as a better. Quickly, this, this is your open space map. The parcel is up on the top left. I was actually at work for the town way back when with Bert Moffitt when this open space plan was first being implemented I'm very familiar how you guys been very progressive in terms of identifying and acquiring easements and open space over time. And so the Jacob Kranz parcel is shown right here it's directly across the peninsula. It's from Global Foundries, and the yellow line is the boundary of the park and the purple lines are sort of an informal trail network, and the horizontal lines and it's the identified stream quarters and this is all from your open space plan. And next slide. And so this is really gets into the meat of it. This is the parcel and that blue dark blue line is a trail easement that was identified way back early on in the open space planning process as a potential link and lo and behold it's going to make this whole thing work. We did a pretty comprehensive study of how we can best get people in and out of this park without disturbing the neighborhood. There were accesses that would have required people to park within neighborhoods or there just wasn't an ability to, to get in and out. We started talking with the folks at Trinity Baptist Church, a few years ago, and right from the beginning. They said we'd love to work with you. They've been fantastic. And, and they said at that time well we do have some plans to do a housing development we're not sure exactly how we're going to approach it. And frankly, COVID did slow us down. So there was about a year pause where we didn't have much motion than the housing development process started to move forward. And they just very recently got approval for the first 14 units of that development. And I ran this, just you know I ran this by Randy Boardman at the church and with with their engineer earlier today with Melinda just to make sure that when I'm presenting is actually what is currently appropriate to talk about. The red arrow shows in that little hatched rectangular area shows a parking lot and easement that I can fairly say will very likely be granted to the park district, maybe via the town I'm sure how the legality of it's all going to work you don't own anything here now as a means to connect to the easement that it now exists at the back of the bittersweet parcel. And it's a long way of saying, we've all found a way to to have parking and a trail access to go into this parcel which in our opinion makes it viable as a, as a true public park that will have public access that will not disturb neighborhoods. So we're incredibly excited about this this only occurred over the last couple of weeks really came together. But as I said Trinity Baptist has been a superb partner they hosted a community sidewalk and meeting a couple years ago where we went out and brush hog the area and tried out the trails and, and so forth. In this text, the parcel is located, you know right in the center of a pretty highly populated residential and commercial area. And we feel, you know philosophically that that is very important it's going to provide it already provides recreation people already walk the site but all the trails are unimproved, and it's not maintained and there's no formal access to it. So in the context, we before we decide to go for this that the park district goes through a very thorough vetting process where we look at the ecological values, the potential impacts on area on area neighborhoods on our ability to manage it the cost to manage it. So all these different aspects you need to look at before you take on something like this. This particular parcel has an incredibly high ecological value, and as a habitat quarter for repairing species there's a stream that runs through the edge of it. So right away when we took a look at this, we began to understand how important was also interestingly like a lot of Williston. You're on the shoreline of the old Champlain sea so long term the archaeological potential and value of the site is actually quite high. So, in terms of having it available for study in the future. That's a pretty fascinating. Another really outstanding site by the way is Brown Elm Mountain. This is one of the super high archaeological value site because it's right on the shoreline of the Champlain sea. So for a whole bunch of reasons for its recreational value. It's public access now that we've established a potential trail use meant the ecological value the archaeological value. It's just, you know, it's it's physical location. The board has the Park District Board has looked at this number of times over the past few years and feels very strongly that it is something that we would love to take on it really fits our philosophy philosophy and operating model.  We would, if we took ownership and went through with this thing. We would be going after probably LWCF and or trails money and do a complete redo of the trails and fix all the erosion issues put in new board walks on crossings. Obviously, you know, get work with Trinity Church on the initial stream crossing and the parking area. So there's a lot of work to do but I, we're just incredibly excited that this is all the timing is very fortuitous for me to be appearing to you because right now it looks like we can say very publicly that this is going to happen. The, and we'll start working right away with with the church with our attorney on easement language. So I just wanted at the timing just happened to be that it was appropriate to talk about this and we'll be coming back to the conservation board of working with your staff. Before we come back to you with a more thorough presentation of what this would mean and how it could work. So I've done a lot on your plates if you have any questions or comments I'd love to love to hear them. Thanks. I remember the board questions. I'm glad to hear that you've been consulting with the church right along because of their their project that they're doing and that makes that'll make a big difference to certainly with the conservation commission. I'm sure so thank you for that. Absolutely. Any other questions for the board. Nothing. Okay. I was looking over your budget request and looks like a very minimal request for fiscal year 23 so that's also good news. Thank you. So thank you. Like I said, thanks for coming back. Yes. Thank you. I look forward to seeing you again in the fall. Yes. Thank you. Take care. Moving then to the next item on the agenda, the American Red Cross soundly alarm program overview and Ernie will introduce our guests. I'll be sure you want me to share. Yep. Great. So we have Kevin Mazzuthan, executive director of the American Red Cross Wellington chapter and I'm so sorry I did not have you on sharing. Okay. I'm the Red Cross community volunteer leader. Excellent. So they're here to provide an overview on the soundly alarm program that works to install smoke alarms and homes free of charge. There's an event that's planned for Wilson and St. George on Saturday, May 14 at which community members can request an appointment. And the Wilson fire department is partnering with Red Cross on the program. And so I will hand it over to you. Great. Thank you, Aaron. And thank you for managing my PowerPoint. Good evening, everybody. It's, it's good to be here. My name is Kevin Mazzuthan. As Aaron said, I'm a resident of Williston as well. I live up on Butternut Road, but I serve as the executive director of the Vermont chapter of the American Red Cross. And I'm here with my community volunteer leader, Sharon Rae Quinn, who another Williston resident. And part of the reason why we are focusing on Williston is because during the pandemic when we were planning this and we actually came before the rotary quite some time ago when we were still on the planning phases. We didn't know what we were going to be doing at this point. So we, we started to plan during the COVID environment. So anyway, let me begin by saying the, the National American Red Cross was born on the battlefield in 1881 by Clara Barton. The Vermont chapter of the American Red Cross was established 36 years later in 1917 and we are 105 years strong. Vermont strong or shall I say Williston strong. The mission of the American Red Cross is to prevent and alleviate human suffering in the face of emergencies by mobilizing the power of our volunteers and the generosity of donors. The American Red Cross shelters feeds and provides emotional support to victims of disasters supplies about 40% of the nation's blood teaches skills that save lives provides international humanitarian aid and supports military members and their families. This evening, I'm here to talk about our free preparedness program called sound alarm and Aaron, I don't know where we are with. I'm going to start sharing. Great. Thank you. And if you can go to the next line. That was the slide I just went over. So let's go to the next. Excellent. Thank you. Every second counts when there is a home fire, home fires are dangerous. They claim more lives in a typical year than all natural disasters combined. Nationally, on average, seven people die daily in home fires. But working smoke alarms can cut the risk of dying in a home fire by half. To help protect your household, test your smoke alarms each month and practice your escape plan until everyone can get out in less than two minutes.  Most of us don't realize that we just have two minutes to escape from a home fire. So that's why the Vermont chapter is preparing families to act quickly through our sound the alarm program. Next slide, please. Through targeted outreach, we're working with community partners to connect families and educate them about fire safety. Together, Red Cross volunteers and community partners will meet with families to share home fire safety information, create escape plans and install free smoke alarms. These home visits last about 15 to 20 minutes and are conducted by two trained Red Cross and event based volunteers. Your packets that that I shared with you include our sound the alarm flyer, our home fire safety checklist, a picture of the kitty 10 year life smoke alarm that we install a designable home fire escape plan with magnet and erasable marker and our service acknowledgement form. Next slide, please. Adult and youth engagement is a critical part of our preparedness programs. We offer free emergency preparedness trainings prepare with Pedro for kindergarten grades. Kindergarten through grade two is a 30 minute program for students that follows Pedro, the penguin and his friends as they learn how to prepare and take actions during an emergency. The pillowcase project for grades three through five is a 40 minute to 60 minute presentation that covers local hazards coping skills and personal preparedness. Be Red Cross ready is designed to teach adults how to prepare for and respond appropriately to disasters likely to occur in their community, such as hurricane super storms floods wildfires tornadoes, etc. Hands only CPR is a 30 minute training teaching hands only technique for CPR. If any of these programs are of interest to you or any group that you know, please contact us so that we can accommodate your needs. Next slide, please. On Saturday May 14 in collaboration with the Williston fire department, the Heinsberg fire department and community partners. We will rally at the Williston fire station to sound the alarm. Our goal is to make 75 homes safer and install 188 free smoke alarms and homes throughout Williston, St. George and Heinsberg. Next slide, please. So how can you get involved? Well, first and foremost, get prepared, check your alarms, practice your plan or request a smoke alarm installation and fire safety education at your home. Volunteer sign up to get trained to provide the fire safety education and smoke alarm installs. Share one of our preparedness trainings with one of your groups or your clubs and get the word out to our community. Encourage friends and neighbors to schedule a free installation appointments. Next slide, please. So here's how to make an appointment for your home fire safety education and smoke alarm installation. You can visit red cross dot org and home fires and call us at 800. Thank you. Thank you. So what we've done in the past is we have asked community members who are interested in this education and installations to make an appointment with us. So make an appointment and then that day our volunteers will then go to those appointments on Saturday, May 14. It's a great opportunity for us to engage those volunteers when we first started this program. Back. Gosh, it's been six, seven years now. We were going door to door knocking on people's doors and sometimes they would let us in because they trust the American Red Cross. But other times they wouldn't. And some of our volunteers were really frustrated because there wasn't really an engagement opportunity. So we started to develop this program and we found that when people make the appointments, then it's, it's, it's a win-win all the way around. Today we just got word from one of our neighborhood associations that they've already had seven people sign up for smoke alarm installs and we're just now rolling out the appointment. So we're really looking to engage a lot of folks. Our numbers are a little bit low as far as goal yet we are able to exceed those goals. We do have the resources available to do that. Again, 75 homes made safer. So that education piece is, is something that I do anticipate us probably hitting in Williston alone. But we again, we're planning during the COVID environment. So we didn't want to bite off more than we could chew set clear expectations. So, yes, we really enjoy for you to share the word, get people to sign up. But first and foremost, when you get home tonight, check your smoke alarm. And Sharon may have a few words that she'd like to share about the program as well. Oh, okay. I'll leave it alone. Sorry. Anyhow, so I contacted all the owners or park managers in the town of Williston, St. George and Heinsberg. And we're reaching out to the most vulnerable, which of the mobile home parks. And so there are 426 residents in the three towns. And a big majority of them have already indicated that they're on board. And one park is the smallest six. And the largest is 120, you know, residents. And so we're continuing to have feedback back and forth. And we're going to exceed that goal. We're going to go way over it. I surmise that we won't even be able to do them all that one day. May 14th is our target date, but there's a three week span in May.  You know, but we really have targeted the mobile home parks because so many of them don't even have alarms or they have alarms that don't work. And like Kevin said, daily, there are seven lives that are lost to fires. And you only have two minutes to get out safely. So this is a tremendous opportunity for people to get on board and, you know, have safety in their homes. Thank you, Sharon. It's important to remember that it doesn't matter where you live. If you need a smoke alarm or if you'd like this education, it doesn't matter if you're in a huge home or a very small home. We are open to helping everybody. The American Red Cross fundamental principle of neutrality is really allowing for us to go ahead and work with anybody and make sure that their home is safe. Ultimately, that's what it's all about. I want to tell you why I volunteer. On August 28, 2011, when I live just outside Montpelier, my home was flooded from the waters from Hurricane Irene. I was trapped many hours rescued by boat called Chester rescue got me out and I went to a Red Cross shelter that first night. So that's why I decided to sign up and give back because the Red Cross is tireless on helping people in need. So, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions? Is there shareable information within our town? A lot of families and folks are very active on social media and there's lots of different groups from Fort Forum obviously is big all over the state, but certainly within our town there's many from Fort Forum groups too. So is there easily accessible and shareable information for social media and for Fort Forum? Chief Communicator, we'll start to share that information out and we'll certainly share it with the town and make sure that you have all of that information and we appreciate you sharing it. And we also had a meeting with Eric Wells probably close to two months ago. And so I'm sure there are some volunteers that will come forth from the town of Wilson offices because I know he's fired up about it. Any other questions? Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next on the agenda is the public hearing on the temporary events ordinance and I'll read the warning. The Wilson Select Court will hold any public hearing to receive comment on a new. February events ordinance and the authority of 24 VSA section 1971 being considered. This ordinance would repeal and take the place of a town's public festivals ordinance. The public hearing will take place on Tuesday. April 5th, 22. 22 at 8 p.m. in the Beckett McGuire meeting room of the Wilson Town Hall. With remote participation offered using the online platform. And so tonight that we've been discussing this for for a couple of times at our. Select board meetings and tonight. Like to ask Matt DeBalange, our planning director. I'm going to give us a brief overview of some of the changes that have been made as well as just the ordinance as it as it exists to replace the one that I think that was adopted right after Woodstock. Yes, so Matt. And in fact, just today on the Vermont planners association zoning administrators listserv there was somebody from another rural Vermont town who said, I, does anybody have a good special event definition. I'm working on replacing this old ordinance that was adopted right after Woodstock. And I think this was Barnett and the language was very similar to Williston's current public festivals ordinance. So my guess is, even in 1971. The Vermont towns in reaction to Woodstock traded similar language and quickly adopted ordinances to address large public festivals. So, brief overview, the new temporary events ordinance is intended to repeal Williston's existing public festivals ordinance, which, which was adopted, primarily to address very large outdoor public events. But over the years through through permitting a lot of special events or as we're now calling them temporary events. The challenges of using that ordinance as the basis for permitting has has become apparent. And it's applicability to the kinds of events that occur in Williston that ought to be addressed by some kind of permit but ought not to be handled under zoning permits which are our permits that generally establish a user structure in a much more permanent way than you might want to for a temporary event. The ordinance would be much better fit to the kinds of events that Williston typically sees. So, the structure of the ordinance defines what a temporary event is, and provides some limitations in terms of how many, or how sort of long lasting a temporary event under this ordinance could be. So the limits are events that last not longer than eight hours and occur no more than 12 times per calendar year this is intended to cover typical food truck nights concert series and other recurring events like that. Events that last a duration not to exceed 60 days and happen no more than two times per calendar year those types of events are limited. Generally to what we would think of as the commercial or industrial zoning districts in town. This is your tent sale at an existing retailer. So this is our dealership promotion, or other temporary event that, you know, might might happen during a season, and then go away. But but might last, you know, multiple days, we've set it at 60 days for that threshold. Other things we're stating here these are really about permitting uses structures that support temporary events but that are left in place permanently do need to conform to and be permitted by zoning. And generally there's an intent here to really separate those activities on land that are required to be permitted by zoning from those activities that could be permitted under temporary event. In the development of this ordinance we did work with our fire and police departments, and they were very helpful in providing us with some additional recommended guidelines for fire safety related to both large events and tense events using large tents that might have a large number of people in them. The ordinance also establishes an application procedure. A review process involving the select board manager or their designee a path for action on events, as well as a path for the revoking of temporary event permits should the event go astray and we've listed a couple of possible conditions under which the select board may not consider revoking a permit. Somebody holds the event with more attendees they start violating other ordinances or otherwise damage or endanger public health and safety. In working with the town attorneys on this via legal review we've tightened up the language around enforcement using the standard ordinance enforcement language and waiver fee through civil enforcement and civil penalty. That's all been made consistent with the way our attorney thinks it should look. And we also did a little bit of exemption language based on one statute says can be regulated under this sort of ordinance. So we are exempting events that are contained to private property unless those events are open to the general public or are advertised outside the immediate neighborhood of the property hosting the event. If there to be attended by more than 25 people or likely to affect or impact the ordinary normal use of a public right of way or property by the general public. And we also added a reference that exempts events decide described in a subsection of the town's noise control ordinance that pertain to activities at the gun club. And this would not be intended to be applied to activities at the gun club. So, small private events would not be covered by this larger private events might. And that's a good threshold to have. When you think of somebody who has a nice house and wants to rent it out periodically as a place to hold a wedding reception. If it's just entirely private and you're you're having, you know, a friend or family member have their wedding reception that's not a temporary event. You're having a series of small events fewer than 25 attendees that's not a temporary event. If you're saying come rent my house and have your wedding here and it's, you know, for more than 25 people that is a temporary event subject to the permit requirements in here as well as the duration and frequency limitations required in here. So that's a really whirlwind tour of both the ordinance and the and the feedback we got from the town attorneys on this. And I think I'll just close by saying, you know, we did have some citizen and stakeholder interaction around this. I spoke with folks from a couple of our farms that have on farm events concerned about how this might apply to them. A couple of things to remember. We do have an event facilities permit that's available to restore historic barns. The example is the Isham family farm and activities that take place because of that zoning permit are considered, you know, permanently approved land development under zoning and are not subject to temporary event provisions, expanding more broadly to other sorts of accessory agricultural uses. There are accessory agricultural uses that are that are not covered by this ordinance or by zoning where those on farm events provide an educational component or feature a farm produced product. So we have some limits around that. But, you know, it's a hayfield. I want to rent it.  So, or I have a banquet facility converted barn, but I want to use it in a way that goes beyond it sort of normal and customary capacity because now I'm going to need additional parking or traffic control or something like that becomes a special event. We had a similar conversation with the Catamount family center about which of their events would be just sort of usual and customary events that occur at the family center and which of their events might require permitting under this ordinance and again comes comes down to parking or other intensity of use issues if you can't accommodate everybody who's coming there in your normal permitted parking and circulation areas and need to make additional arrangements that may be an event that's considered under this ordinance. So I'll close with that and ask for any questions. Good. Thank you. So this is the public hearing. So is there anyone, there's nobody in the conference room who would have questions or comments? Is there anyone online that would like to speak? I don't have many people online. No hands raised. No. Nobody interested. Okay. We'll have our chance to ask questions when we go to the next item, which is considering adopted it. And so I'd be looking for a motion to close the public hearing. Move to close the public hearing on the temporary events ordinance. Just for a second. Second. Is there any discussion on the motion? If not, all those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Opposed and no extensions. Then we'll take up the next item, which is would consider adoption of the ordinance and now it's time that for us to ask questions if we have any. Anyone on the board with questions, just to comment actually that your, your description was very concise and very explanative, explanative. Thank you. I'll take it. Yeah. But I, you know, we've been dealing with this. Proposed change for some time. So I have no questions. Other questions comments. Maybe looking for a motion that. I'll move to adopt the temporary events ordinance has presented. Second. Is there any discussion on the motion? Very none. All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Opposed. So we've done that. And we'll keep Matt busy. And we're going on to the sewer ordinance amendment. Attachment A, and I think this is your first. Look at this. So, Matt. Matt, we have a. You're usually good document here and I haven't checked the math, but. Anyway, we'll put you on the hot seat to. Give us a brief overview of what we're. Has to be adopting. Sure. Our motion to schedule a public hearing. So. Broad brush overview. Williston has a sewer allocation ordinance that regulates how the town makes. It's limited sewer capacity available to new users. And that is done through the annual adoption of attachment A to the ordinance, which is essentially a budget for sewer capacity that will be made available. For sale to new users or folks who are modifying their existing uses in such a way that they need more sewer capacity. So this is something that happens every year. And it's an opportunity to review what's happening within the current system. Attempt to identify any trends and usage that we're seeing. And make a recommendation for a proposed capacity allocation for the next fiscal year, FY 23. I do want to make a recommendation. I'm going to come back to this, but I am going to make a recommendation that the hearing version of this. Increase the commercial capacity available a little bit. In the last few weeks, we've had some purchases of capacity in the current fiscal year. And some indications that we may have additional demand for commercial capacity in FY 23. Nothing really dramatic, but it makes sense to recommend at this stage a little bit more capacity be placed in that category. So I'll go over that in a minute. Back to sort of the overview of how the system works. Williston has about 1,000,000 gallons per day capacity reserved for its use at the end of the fiscal year. We have about 1,000,000 gallons per day capacity reserved for its use at the Essex Junction plant. It's just about exactly a third of that plant's capacity, which we share with Essex and Essex Junction. And when we look at that amount of capacity, we think about what's left to give out or sell and how deciding how much to give out or sell can support the goals of the town plan. So we're going to look at that in a little bit more detail. Williston's town plan identifies various parts of town where different kinds of new uses residential at various densities and commercial at various intensities might be established. Williston's town plan includes some economic development goals about supporting job growth and some housing goals about supporting affordable housing, as well as some growth management goals about managing the uses in town and the town's overall ability to maintain concurrent services with all kinds of growth. So all of those goals are at least worthy of consideration when thinking about how sewer capacity is proposed to be made available to future uses and expanded uses in the town. You would want your sewer capacity allocation to generally support your land use and future goals, infrastructure goals, et cetera. So that's the theme of sewer allocation. So over time the town has purchased additional capacity to bring us up to that 1,080,000 number. We had a purchase that concluded for the fiscal year 22. That was a 50,000 gallon per day purchase. We do not have another purchase of capacity planned at this time, although there are always ongoing talks through the Tritown agreement process to see if Williston could purchase additional capacity. And it is probably the most limiting infrastructure factor as far as the support of new growth in town. We have plenty of water. We have good roads. We have good town services that can grow as the town grows, but the plant can only treat so many gallons per day of wastewater and most of our new growth needs to be supported with wastewater treatment. So to consider how much capacity is available to allocate, and I'm in the numbered section on page two of the memo if you're following along, you need to know how much capacity the town has sold and committed to provide that's currently being used by existing customers. This is the easy number because we just towed up how much has spun past the meter down at the S extension line. We received monthly reports with how many gallons came through each day of the month and a mean gallons per day per month, which we turned into a gallons per day per year number that we've charted on page three of the memo for you here. So what are we using right now? What have we sold to new users that's not yet online? And there's a sort of a small ever dwindling amount of capacity that was sold and reserved for new users who have not yet put it online. There are there are two sort of accountings of this one from I think 2001 and one from 2015. We don't typically sell capacity way out ahead of permitting anymore in Williston, but we used to. And so there are some, there is some reserved capacity that, you know, those users have a right to use whenever they want to that they pay to hold year to year. And we're looking at around, I think it's just under 40,000 gallons per day out of everything that that is in that category. And when those users come in to develop, they're asked to tap that reserved capacity before they're sold new capacity. So that liability continues to go down. And then finally, there's just a 7% reserve. That's the recommendation our engineer has given us. That's to deal with fluctuations in use infill and or in migration of water into the system or other exigencies that might cause the town to need additional capacity. So that that 7% is, I think I'll get to it, but around 75,000 gallons per day. So 40,000 that we've sold, but nobody's using yet. 75,000 that we just plan not to use, but it's there for an emergency. So when we look at the trend of average daily sewer flows year to year, the chart I've given you on page three is 1992 through 2021. Essentially the entire life of the system as we know it across calendar years. And we have two bars there. The solid black bar that spans the whole chart is the daily average and the gray bar that starts five years in is the five year moving average. And typically in determining which number to use, we just look at which one is higher. And you can see that for 2021 the five year moving average has just barely ticked above the yearly flow. Overall trend is really remaining the same. We had an increase from 1992 up to about 2006. And then declining level or very slightly increasing flows since then. And you know, it's pretty incredible to think about all of the growth and development that's happened in Williston since 2006 that is served by sewer and yet capacity demand has been in a relative sense, pretty flat water conservation efforts, maintenance to the existing system. And maybe to a slight degree, some, some changes in rainfall, but mostly maintenance and water conservation are the likely reasons for that. Changing demographics as well, aging population, fewer teenagers taking showers, I think is the example we usually put out there or, or shorter showers. And all of those things play into that, into that curve. And the second chart on, on page three is just trying to look at how much is rainfall deviating each year from the five year average compared to how much is sewer capacity use deviating from the five year average. And you know, this is not a statistically validated chart. It's just an idea of, yeah, there appears to be some, possible rough correlation that when there's more rain, there's more flow and that means the system is still leaking into some degree. That brings us to page four and the numbers. And again, I'm recommending that for existing flows, we use the moving average because it's the higher number. So that's 672,723 gallons per day. As I mentioned capacity committed but not yet on lines, a little over 36,000 reserves, a little over 75,000. When we take all of those numbers out of our million 80, we get 295,408 gallons per day remaining capacity in the system that's reserved for Williston's use. One of the town plan goals we have and I'm on to page five now is that we take a long-term outlook to the way that sewer capacity is considered and allocated. The very simplest way to do that is to take the amount of remaining capacity and divide it by 20 years. And that gets us 14,770 gallons per day per year. So you could sell that much for 20 years and then you'd be all out. What do our trends look like right now? Right now that 10-year mean is a little less than 14,770. So at that 10-year mean, if we keep going like that, we see about 26 years until we completely run out. Now two years ago, the 10-year mean was higher because it contained an older number that was higher. And the trend looked a little different. I was saying we have about 19 years. So just some context, you don't want to take 26 years to the bank any more than you take 19. You know, we are using capacity. We are using more capacity. We will run out eventually. But we are sure are accommodating an awful lot of growth with that capacity that we make available for sale. And it's worth noting that, you know, when we sell capacity, you know, we take it, we sell it to a user based on an estimate of what we think they're going to use. They may use less than that. And that decrease is going to show up in the average daily flows at the meter. So it's important to recalculate this every year as those uses come online. Understanding, too, that somebody may buy a bunch of capacity, not end up using it all, and the use may change next year. And they have that capacity. They don't need to buy more. And suddenly their flow goes up. We've seen that with a couple of users as well. So I'm still, you know, calling for some caution and careful planning around capacity here this year. I think we're still dealing with an economic recovery and COVID recovery. We could see things, including use tick up. We, you know, we were at about 672, 672,000 gallons per day average daily flow this year. In 2019, when I was saying, you know, maybe more like a 19 year supply, we were at about 705. So it moves around a fair amount. So there are some things that town can do and has done to think about capacity, some scenario planning, thinking about how much of the build out of town can be supported by existing allocation. We certainly did a lot of that thinking in terms of the Taff corners visioning project and other ways that we think about growth in town, certainly considering purchasing additional capacity, if it's available, I would always recommend that the town purchase additional capacity if it's available, because it is limited. But it always comes down to things like the price of that capacity and what's the town willing to invest in it. And then some of the more interesting ones like prioritizing the availability of capacity, possibly including some different subcategories at some point in attachment a, you know, the one I call out is commercial and industrial uses generally supporting the growth of those uses in the town plan is understood as a job growth goal. Well, there are commercial and industrial uses that produce lots of jobs that don't use lots of water or generate lots of wastewater. And there are others that do generate lots of wastewater and does the town want to think about, you know, how it might spend that capacity, depending on what type of user you bring into the town. And I think most folks that follow current events have read about the both strength and volume of wastewater, for example, that comes out of a brewery. It can be challenging to accommodate that. And then finally adjusting the residential growth management allocation system, whether the town, you know, at some point becomes so constrained on capacity that it says we need to adjust our residential growth targets and try to impose more control on that because we don't want to give people residential growth management allocation. I either write to build a house at a certain point in time and then not be able to support that with a sale of capacity. The goal would be to be parallel to those. So those are some things to be thinking about. I had a similar discussion in last year's memo. The select board didn't want some more follow up on that. We did reach out to Aldrich and Elliott and just have an updated memo prepared, which I'm happy to provide about sort of what are, what are the town's options, but briefly they look a lot like this. Prioritize, purchase more capacity. There is, there is likely potential to purchase more capacity from the plant. And then there are the sort of harder and more expensive things pursuing greater capacity at the plant as a function of its permit capacity. So maintenance has been done to the plant that increased its capability to treat sewerage, but the permit itself that allows the maximum amount of flow out of that plant was not opened up as part of that process. That could be done. It would not be easy. And it's not a guarantee. There are some very real limits in terms of what gets discharged in the Lake Champlain that, that have to be considered, but there is physical capacity at the plant that is not supported by the current permit. Then there are the even more out there things, you know, build another plant, find another place to dispose of wastewater, do some kind of emissions trading with the IBM plant up the river. You know, interesting to just keep in context that the public sewer plant at Essex Junction has a little over 3 million gallons per day capacity. The IBM plant has a little over eight. And they, you know, they use it. They use it. But the kinds of things that they're closer to their limits on in their waste flow are very different from the kinds of things that Essex Junction is close to. We're high on nutrients. They're high on metals because that's what comes out of their plant versus what comes out of our residential system. So a couple of tables I've prepared for the select board. The first is the history of allocation. This is the history of how much capacity the select board has traditionally made available in the various categories. And as I mentioned, I want to, I want to talk a little bit about the, the commercial allocation a little later on page eight, table three is the history of actual sales. And if you were to compare tables two and three, what you'd see is we don't sell everything that we make available for sale every year in all categories. And in fact, our 10 year mean for allocation soul is to this year is just under 10,000 gallons per day of new capacity. And, you know, that's in a system where our mean that we make available for sale every year is about 35,000. So sell out a third of what we make available most years. But we do sometimes run out some categories and that's again, where I'll get back into the commercial discussion. So going right into it pages nine through 11, our discussions of the recommended numbers and why. And you'll see that my, my memo I wrote back in February, I was recommending 10,000 gallon per day allocation for new commercial that is a little bit up from what we have been making available, which in the last two years was 7,500. In the two years before that was 19,500 because we anticipated a hotel coming online in one of those years and wanted to accommodate it. So I'm at 10. I'm thinking that I would like to come back on the hearing with something more like 13. And again, it's just related to we're seeing a sale of a house building. We're seeing a sale happen right now related to capacity for evergreen family health to go into the white cap former Rosnell warehouse building. A use that's supported in the town plan.  And turns out white cap building was redeveloped. But not all sewer capacity for all potential future commercial house building was purchased rather intelligently at the time that the project was permitted. So, you know, white cap. Physical conversion started over 15 years ago. It's a giant building. It's slowly being repurposed. It makes sense that they would come into purchase capacity to support those new uses over time. And it's just been kind of sitting there for about eight years. I think since synergy fitness went in and there's this big, you know, I think there's this big, big, empty space that was never converted that now evergreen is looking at. And their full build out plan by itself might need, I think five or 6,000 gallons per day. We're coming up on the end of the fiscal year. We have about 1600. We can sell them right now. So we're seeing things like that. We're seeing increased demand for senior housing, which could be sold out of either the residential or commercial category. And so I think that, you know, it would be, it would be a good idea to come back to those. I think that with any reserved capacity they had on tap and still having a little bit of development left that they may wish to support with purchase of capacity. So not all the way back back up to 19,500, but I think 13 would be a better number than 10, just based on those really recent trends that I've seen since I wrote them out. So that's a number. I'd mention it to them and that I could transmit any concerns they have about that back to you. So that's new commercial. The other numbers are relatively the same as they have been. New residential and table four on page 10 is just one of many, many, many different ways in which a mix of new residential could be supported by the 11,650 gallons per day I'm proposing. More or less in line with the mix of dwelling unit types that we're seeing built in Williston through both our growth management system, which encourages a diversity of housing types, hence the more smaller one and two bedroom units. And as we see growth and development continuing to focus in taft corners where more multifamily product is built as opposed to the sort of single family trend the town had, you know, 15 and 20 years ago. So that's the residential recommendation. I think I got the arithmetic right, but we don't have our back checker tonight. I asked Eric for a few extra minutes before I sent this to him to get to us, let me get the math right. Jeff always finds, you know, my one error. We do have a separate category residentially for affordable housing. This is this is a category that we recommended putting some gallons per day capacity in a few years ago. It's not heavily used. We were lucky with the Champlain housing trust project, they were going into an existing hotel, which had already purchased more than enough capacity to support the new permanent residential use. But if we did have a new affordable housing project, making some amount of capacity available to support a project like that makes some sense. And you know, makes sense that we could keep it relatively administrative for them to be able to purchase that. So that's my recommendation for the 4750 gallons there. We have a category called encouraging specific development recommended at 10,000 gallons per day. This is a category where if somebody wants to purchase from this category, they need to come back to you as the select board to ask permission. Public Works director can't just sell out of this category. And it's a category intended to support job retention, job creation, could be affordable housing, could be an unanticipated need for a civic use, something that achieves important town goals that the select board thinks is worthwhile to do this. And I just know there was a large purchase out of this category back in 2014 related to the expansion and retention of Green Mountain coffee roasters in town, you know, under a job retention and expansion theory. That said, planned public facilities total of zero proposed for this category. We don't anticipate constructing any planned public facilities that need additional capacity in the upcoming fiscal year. The reserve at 75,600 is just plain old math, 7% of the town's total allocation of the plant. And pollution abatement is kept at 1,500 gallons per day. We have not needed to use this category in some time, but it makes sense to have some reserved so that if there is somebody who's got a wastewater disposal issue who can solve it by connecting to sewer, there are some gallons available for them to do that. So the final page of my brief 12th page memo on attachment A is the historic table of select board approved allocations with the final call being the proposed for FY23. Again, with the caveat that I'd like to add another 3,000 gallons into the new commercial industrial when you bring it back for hearing draft. Otherwise, those are the numbers I'm recommending. Select Board would need to hold a public hearing in order to adopt this and I'd recommend considering doing that. No, thank you, Matt. So questions for Matt with regard to the proposal? When 19 or 26 years from now when the capacity is complete, finished, used, would it is that that's about the same time that we're also going to be told the lake doesn't have the capacity to take it or wastewater, treated wastewater anyway. Sarah, right? Is that about it? It could be. Yeah. Yeah.  All things can be solved with more and more money. You know, there are such thing as denitrifying wastewater treatment facilities. There are other ways of, you know, handling wastewater. They just get more and more and more expensive and complicated and challenging. You know, I think there are some, you know, if there was the ability to gain additional capacity through a revision of the plant permit, that's paperwork as opposed to physical construction or, you know, sort of actually bonding and building something. It's still not free. But that would be something to be thinking about. And for your hearing or just sort of interest, we can give you that Aldersen Elliott memo that we had prepared over the last year to sort of talking through that. The reason to take a 20-year outlook is to have 10, 15 years to, you know, to be thinking about that. You know, the other answer is as the supply of capacity gets more and more constrained, if there was not a solution, the town might have to start thinking about adjusting its land use goals and priorities and thinking about, well, what if there is a pause on new growth or is there some portion of the sewer service area that could be served by some other system to free up capacity of the plant, et cetera. We do have, for example, provisions that by the numbers wouldn't do a whole lot for this, but we do have folks with private septic systems within our sewer service area. If it's infeasible for them to connect to the system, there's a out for the public works director to let them treat that effluent privately. We certainly, the strong town preference is to have everybody who's in the district connected, but you'll start to see more and more of that, and I always go back to the original pre-pyramid mall, mall proposal for Willis in 1973, you know, there's no wastewater service in Willis, and this guy rolls out this giant mall plan, and the wastewater plan, there were two. One was to pump it all the way to Avenue A and do a subsurface groundwater injection into the sand deposits off Avenue A. The other was to go up where Hurricane Lane is now and do aerial spraying of the forest. And I had plans for both in my office at one point, and, you know, imagine wanting to build a mall so bad that you're willing to do that with your wastewater. But there are other innovative systems out there, there are neighborhood scale package systems, there's all kinds of crazy stuff. You might see private developers coming in and saying, I'd like to do this development, and I have my own solution for my wastewater that makes sense to me. Hopefully I don't think we get there, but the more constrained, the more demand, the more of those kinds of things might come into the conversation. Didn't Stowe do that, didn't they use, wait, so there's a proposal that they're going to use wastewater, treated wastewater to make snow? Yeah, well, Killington was the first, you know, where the affluent meet the affluent. The affluent meet the affluent. Yeah, and, you know, there are, you know, things that you can do, they just get more and more expensive and complicated. And, you know, one of the things that's not in my memo, but that sort of hangs out there and was a concern when the developments went in in the early 90s is places that are proximate to the system that have community disposal systems. And, you know, we had the example several years ago of Meadow Ridge having their community system fail, needing to connect. We do have other places that are adjacent to our sewer service area that have large aging community septics up up Sunset Hill, et cetera. And, you know, part of that's that 1500 gallon per day environmental mitigation category, but over time as those systems age and, you know, when somebody's got a failed system and they're pointing at you saying, the pipe is right there, why can't I connect? That's something that you'll probably see. Over the life of the next town plan, the 20 year horizon of the 2025 town plan, I guarantee you will see development pressure on lands outside of the sewer service area, but proximate to it where somebody says, well, isn't it time that Williston expanded that sewer service area and allowed a denser form of development adjacent to the existing dense development that happens as the supply of land gets constrained. And, you know, the town will want to think in the development of its next town plan of how firm does it want those land use boundaries to be over that, you know, say out to 2050 horizon, 25 year horizon. So that when that question comes, the town can have an answer that is based on careful consideration of all of these balanced interests. Other questions, comments? Sometime in the next couple of months, we'll be talking about looking at what we could do for expansion of the, to the S6 plan. There are consultants have been working with the S6 consultants about costs. So we'll be discussing that at some point in time. But anyway, we're looking for a motion to schedule a public hearing on the attachment aid. I'll move to schedule a public hearing to receive comments on the proposed attachment aid of the sewer allocation ordinance for fiscal year 2023. There's a second. Any discussion on the motion? All those in favor of the motion say aye. Nobody's opposed. So good. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. I appreciate that. Great, great memo. We're up to the manager's report and this will be the assistant to the manager's report. Well, Eric took it easy on me and he actually did not leave me any items for report two tonight. However, I will preview that the town is going to have a green up day occurs on Saturday, May 7th, and this year's event is going to look a little bit different. The planning department actually is coordinating a green up town day fair and it'll be at the village green near the library and on our homepage. There's a link with more information. So if you could spread the word and maybe we'll see there. Thank you. Is there any other business to talk about tonight? Hearing none, we are adjourned.