How nice of you guys to come this early. Oh my gosh. This is kind of amazing. Is this, oh it is working. That's amazing. Hi everyone, thank you for coming out at 9am. We didn't as you noticed. I have permission from him to A. speak for him and B. mock him for his hungoverness. Hi friends, I'll answer all questions quickly. So welcome, thank you for being here on the last day of this PPF. I have no German agenda whatsoever. My friend Kimberly just returned this book to me. So please read nothing into the Proth. So we've got a little bit of time to talk to some of the playwrights of this year's PPF. I'll start by just sort of saying hi, introducing ourselves and the play with which we are associated and then we'll go from there into more detailed information. I'll start by introducing myself. I'm Aditi Kapil, I'm a playwright living here in LA at the moment. I've had the pleasure of being part of PPF and part of SCR for a couple years now. Actually this theater housed my play Orange a couple years ago which was just some of my favorite feelings about this space. Thank you. So why don't we go from this side that away and hey I might switch it up for other questions and prepare yourself. It's going to be a good morning. And just your name and the play with which you're associated and if you can count it out efficiently in your head maybe how many PPFs you got under your belt might be kind of fun to know. That'll be easy. I'm the lyricist for Pralid to a Kiss and this is my first PPF. Yay! Welcome. Hi, I'm Craig Lucas. I'm the book writer of Pralid and this is my second PPF. I was here in 2004 with a play called The Singing Forest that South Coast didn't produce. It could be a very honest panel. I'm Adam Bach. I was a playwright of the Canadians. I got a commission about nine years ago and I finally did it and it was this my first time. Hi, I'm Kevin Artig. I wrote a play called Sheepdog. I was here last year with a play called Sheepdog. And we'll be joined in a... You did so much better than Queen. It's going to be last of the hour. We're just doing name play with which you're associated and if you can figure it out quickly just how many PPFs you've had under your belt. Oh, I can. It's small. My name is Anna Nogada. I wrote Mask Only and this is my second PPF. Thank you for being here. I'm Aditi. So one of my favorite things about PPF and just like big playwright gatherings like this aside from getting to see my friends is that I also kind of get to... I get this great expanse of work that I get to see very quickly but also I get to dip into what people are thinking about these days like what artists are thinking about and making work about these days and I get the inside stories sometimes I get the, oh, this moment happened and then this play happened and this is why this happened in this moment and this is why this got transformed into this style of play in this moment and so I'm wondering if you guys would be up for talking about the moments that kind of generated these plays for you whether it be personal, whether it be the world right now, whether it be a revisiting of a work that needed to be transformed in a particular way right now we can go in any order you like if someone's feeling that one and wants to jump in or I can just hit Anna.  Show up late. Yeah, I think these guys have actually heard some of this My play Masque Only I think was sort of living in me subconsciously and unconsciously for a very long time I grew up doing musical theater and I went to college to study musical theater exclusively and it kind of gets you into this underground world of fans and quite passionate people it's like closer to like hanging out with gamers than it is to hanging out with like fancy actors just people that are like so adept at knowing all the ins and outs of this quite niche art form that like generates a lot of revenue but then has this whole other sort of like world of high art and so is a world I felt very comfortable kind of like riffing in which is a gift as a playwright I'm not really smart enough to write a play about something I had to research I do much better if it's like in me and I just know how people speak so there's that aspect of it and then within that I in college people have heard this story before but they did a drag show every year it was student run and it was truly extraordinary and it was better than any of the main stages that the actual school had produced it was it's like embarrassing for the program that the drag show was so good and and it would like be passed from guy to guy like a senior would graduate and then like annoying to be like you're in charge of this next year and one year I was this I wasn't in the class where this happened but senior year you have showcase you plan for showcase when you come out to New York and you perform your one song for all the agents and casting directors and it's high stress and the seniors have a showcase class where they're kind of honing their material and trying to find out how they can best essentially sell themselves as a performer to New York City and the drag show happened and it was amazing and what the next day in showcase class a girl had gotten up to perform and she did her song and the teacher said to her you should talk to your friend all names have been changed to protect the innocent but like Jason and have him I saw him perform in the drag show last night and you should have him teach you how to perform like a real woman and she was like record scratch the teacher didn't even realize what was wrong with that comment but then simultaneously like Jason and all the gay men in our class of which there are many are being told there they have to butch it up in like some weird like kind of trying not to be offensive way and it's like nobody fits no one's fitting in and then at the same time like they are the community of this art form so why is that this art form really leaving them out so I wanted to explore that and these questions of masculinity and femininity and those boxes and we talk about we're talking about that a lot now but I wanted to talk about it in the casing of these like weird outcasts so that's that sorry that was quite long that's why I love these stories wonderful so I do like to research my place a lot he's smarter than I am I just am slow and afraid of myself so I'll spend many years avoiding writing about me and finding where I am in the play and researching whether I should matter the world that's usually where I start some kind of ethical question that really is sticking with me like that I can't shake so I would say Sheepdog started with kind of blueprints for a couple characters and the first is there's an officer named Nikia Jones and this was on the heels of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile to fairly infamous police shootings that the videos went viral that was followed by a shooting in Dallas of some officers so it was a really traumatic week and she was an active duty police officer in Cleveland and she went on Facebook and she posted a Facebook live video which was essentially a rant and a plea a very sort of emotional plea from an officer active duty officer a black woman saying just this all has to stop this just needs to stop right now it's not happening it's impossible for me to do my job and she repeated this over and over and this just really came from her subconscious she was saying if you're white and you're racist and you are policing neighborhoods with people of color stop take that uniform off just take it off fast forward Obama invited her to the White House she got fired from her job and so and I sort of think both those things happening speak to our world that she couldn't keep her job and the police department shoved her out but yet she was embraced in one respect so that was one character just as a writer filed that away another was this amazing incredible piece of journalism which was an interview with the officer Darren Wilson who shot Michael Brown in Ferguson it's rare to get access to these officers in shootings a journalist went to his house while he was in hiding and interviewed him and what struck me as a playwright was his lack of words for what he had done and how rare it is to have these officers forced to in words describe their actions and account for their actions and they often can't in the case of Darren Wilson he's an inarticulate every word told story about his background and who he was and where it came from so those characters filed away many mistarts many drafts thrown away had to find my way into the story and figure out what on earth I had to say about police violence that needs to be heard or that I felt needed to be heard it took a long time and I arrived here you know we're really lucky to be playwrights I was just thinking what you guys just said was so interesting and we get to sit and really try and figure out things and it's really cool I love my job I feel really fortunate I think when I started I think I had the title the Canadians and made me laugh just like America people the Canadians are stupid are funny or different but it came from remembering when I first as a gay guy went to Provincetown from Rhode Island I went to Provincetown and I couldn't breathe because the streets were full of gay guys and and then I went on a gay cruise another time and I remembered that feeling but it was quite a bit later I lived in San Francisco and I've gotten used to the feeling of being the majority ever and it made me really think about how I don't think straight people know what happens to a gay kid when you're born into a family there's no one else like you and you have a secret for the first maybe 14 maybe 20 maybe even first 30 years of your life that you can't you feel you're unable to share and what that does to people and that we don't get credit for surviving you know when my father said that to me because he said that to me that thing I said where that must have been hard on you not having one to help you it was the perfect response because I was like it was it was really hard and I think it's shameful and unfair that gay people are considered odd because we have gone through a huge trauma and it's just not fair and to then be told you're bad when you do come out you know imagine that you're alone you're a little kid you're alone I knew I was gay probably when I was about 5 put it aside and really knew when I was 13 and then didn't come out until I was 23 or 24 this was back I'm so excited for the kids that are coming out you know at 7 at 14 because they don't they don't go through the years of watching and hearing people say I remember my dad would come home and say he had to stand up to his hockey team and say stop saying fag I have a kid who's gay but that's just what I grew up with and it's just awful to constantly be told you're no good I wanted to write about that and I wanted to write about how gay people I've had a lot of people older than me who have helped me so that's where that came from I can hardly remember who the person was who wrote this play prelude to a kiss yeah but I do remember that South Coast because of Jerry Patch and David Emerson and Marty Benson and John Glor produced a play that had mine that no one reviewed in New York City and I thought the play was just dead and they did a production of my play Reckless and that was its second production and when I came out to see it it was very well directed and a beautiful production they said would you like to write another play for us and I was astonished I didn't even know there were commissions because I was a musical theater person I started in the chorus of Broadway musicals and didn't really start writing plays until I was in my 30s so they gave me the most enormous gift and I didn't know what I was doing and that's the only thing that has remained constant through my life is that I don't know what I'm doing and some of the things that everyone has talked about so far about what it means to be masculine what it means to be feminine are still seeming to me to be at the center of our awareness it's very exciting to see playwrights from different parts of the American landscape representing their experience here and I'm really excited about that I want to see poor yellow red next to the night and more than half the audience was Asian and I just started weeping I was so happy but the theater is a far cry from Washington and my play was written in the middle of the AIDS epidemic and it is about what it means to suddenly become old and face mortality which was what was happening to me when I wrote the play and now this week the Supreme Court is trying to decide whether or not gay people lesbians transgendered people, bisexuals even have the right to be protected from discrimination it is 60 years this summer since Stonewall and the central character was a socialist back in 1987 when I wrote the play and she is still a socialist back then it was thought to be cute now it is the subject for demonization the new fascists better known as the Republican Party are trying to drive people off the edge of the cliff to protect their privilege and so I'm more scared now and what changed and the reason I wanted to come back and do the musical is that this kooky character who thought the world was about to blow up is now seen to be the Cassandra who predicted what is true which is we're about to blow up the world if we're not very very careful and if we don't take these men with their bullying away from the control panel that's right so when you write musicals you basically spend your whole life looking for what would make a good musical every book I read everything I see every story I read I think would not make a good musical and it just happened that a friend of mine was playing piano for American in Paris and he told me that the book writer was Craig Lucas and he was becoming friendly with Craig Lucas and I immediately said talk to him see if we can write a musical about Prelude to a Kiss which is a play I remembered from my first days in New York I loved that play so I just immediately jumped for it and he set up an interview and Craig said sure try it then I had to figure out alright so now why why do I want to do this I love the play but how is it relevant now and what I realized when I was young what appealed to me was this idea of a young person who's suddenly old and I'm not so young anymore so I kind of saw it from a different perspective and I felt like well we're going to set it now what's going on now and Craig just talked very eloquently about what's going on now but in my mind I just felt like everyone I know is very anxious and very nervous whichever side you're on you've been made to become part of one side and there's an enemy in a way that I don't remember for many years and I thought what is the mitigating circumstance of that and it's well I have a partner who I've been with for many years it's love and I thought this is so odd that in the most stressful times in Iran, in North Korea in Nazi Germany throughout time people are still falling in love having families and how interesting that is to have love in an anxious time so those of you who saw the reading the song that pulled it all together is Love in the Age of Anxiety and love does go on this is this is such a lovely Sam and I didn't know about these answers I'm just hearing them for the first time now it was not a repeat for me but it's such an amazing representation I think across the board of how deeply artists playwrights in particular here think about what they're putting into the world and the responsibility of what we're putting into the world and what a moment requires from us and the dialogue the theater is life always trying to have with the world so I thought it would be interesting in this moment in American theater to kind of flip it a little bit and talk about the I mean the theaters the institutions that are the curators of how this art then makes it out into the world and we've had this huge sea change in the past couple of years in American theater where there's been a lot of changes in leadership including here at south coast which is very exciting and there's a lot of new leaders of theaters in the American theater that are doing a lot of dreaming and visioning right now and there's a lot of boards across the country that have thought hard about what they want their theater to be and thus chosen a particular leader and I would love to take our thinkers our artist thinkers here and take a moment and see if we can like dream and vision a little bit also and kind of put it into the world as to what we think American theater might be wanting to head towards what we think is necessary in our moment in our future as artists the pathways we'd like to see really anything I'm leaving it as open as possible because I feel like I mean we got this fabulous crowd here and then we've got I don't know hi howl around somewhere just take an opportunity to speak into the world something you'd like to see for American theater as the thinkers that you are within it and again I can start from any end you are I'll start when I go see one of my plays I I went to a dinner and I said I'd like to meet the board because I like to know who is helping pay for this because I think it's I guess what I would like to see is a closer connection between the audience and us like actually to know that I don't like plays that tell you what to do like I don't want to write a play that says to you you should be doing this what I want to write is something that then you would go off and say huh I wonder whether he's right that would be a good idea or not you know what I mean and it feels to me like there's been a bit of a capitalization of theater where there's a product that then you say good or bad rather than it's a dialogue between the two and I think something that's changing now is actually there the great thing about bringing more new voices and new people in all aspects and the staff and the actors and the playwrights and the director is suddenly we realize oh there's a chance to actually talk to the with rather than at so that's what I would hope that we recognize that that's why we're doing it is we're trying to talk to you know in a weird way I started very small theaters and I had community my community in Rhode Island the very first I quit because I didn't like theater and then I started again because a couple of friends of mine wanted to do a drag show for a coming out day and so I wrote them a little skit called act up the house of Chanel goes to act up so it was three models three boys dressed as Chanel models who decided to join act up and it was a huge hit so then I did a gay boy nutcracker this is in Rhode Island and I had all amateurs and I had a dike ballet with 30 lesbians who'd never been on stage before doing up the ballet I had a big drag queen doing the sugar plum fairy and they made their own costumes and like the first time 250 people came and by the next four years it was the second biggest thing other than pride and I realized that's why I write plays is for my community like I was putting on people on stage who had never been on stage we were giving the money to a AIDS hospice there was a connectedness that's so deep then after years went to San Francisco down to New York New York is a sense that you pull away from the community like I'm supposed to write an object that you think is good and want to pay for and that's not theater to me it's an element of it we have to make it pay you have to pay for it but the heart of it is that we will talk we will talk not me talk or you complain you know like sorry people we say the wrong thing while we tell the truth by mistake sometimes that's enough out of me it's fantastic I think we're all going to feel free to tell the truth and then you guys can too we'll leave a little I'll say just very quickly I think people should do more musicals and I think that they should do new musicals and I think they should do new musicals which shouldn't have the burden of having to run for 20 years the thing that I think is wrong with New York theater now is that people producers want to produce a show like Phantom of the Opera that can stay in that theater for 20 years and that everyone will hear of no matter where on the planet they are they'll know what it is and they'll come and see it and I think pretty soon all 20 Broadway theaters are going to be filled with a show that will run forever and then there just won't be any room for New York musicals so that's why South Coast Rep and I think the movement is to do musicals all around the country in repertory theaters where people are used to the idea that it doesn't have to be the best musical you ever saw in your life it can still be interesting you see it and you tell your friends about it and then maybe next year you see something else yeah great one of the exciting things happening in theater unlike Washington is that people of color and women and people who don't identify in a binary fashion are being represented on the stages across the country I would like to see more people of color and more of those people running the American theaters because it can be at the mercy of one understanding of what experience is and even for those who like myself have been a beneficiary of it I don't think it's particularly healthy musicals that have been revived successfully on Broadway many many times should not be taking up the stages of not-for-profit theaters I don't mind a revival of anything that goes somewhere in the regions but I hate to see our major stages filled up with work that commercial producers can do just as well and these writers need to be on the major stages and this play needs to be at the Seagerstone that has to happen and make a call I also really feel that what happens when you age in the American theater is that you're either an icon or nothing and there are some great American playwrights who are not produced anymore because the New York drama critics didn't like them my mentors including Maria Irene Fornes were never produced at many not-for-profit theaters and I think that's shameful and bad and they should be seen Neil Bell is still alive he should be produced that's what I think I don't know if I feel like everything really like quite worthy has been said so I don't know if I can add much to the conversation but a word that comes up a lot for me that feels like very far off but it's what I feel like we should all be going towards is just a meritocracy and it happens it doesn't happen often in theater there's a lot of politics why things get produced and why other things don't get produced and well this person did three plays for us in the last five years so we're gonna give them their other play the reason the word meritocracy feels impossible and is complicated is because of the things that have been said what gives something merit Adam what you were saying about how you know I like things often that are messy and aren't perfect and raise questions and start a dialogue and to me that gives it merit right it doesn't have to feel like there's a perfect bow on it for it to say this work is good and it doesn't need to run forever or feel like it should run forever for it to have merit so it requires people having taste which is tricky like can you run something and have a business sort of mind and also have taste for the work and the effort that was put in and really the worthiness of this being put up in front of an audience so I don't think it's easy and I don't have the answers to that but it is the far off goal that there will be an element of this deserved to be seen and therefore it was I want to echo Craig's first thought that I think what we're seeing for me is the most exciting transformation and change in these new leaders and seeing women and people of color and people who fit outside the binary taking control of these artistic art institutions I come from the I say this and I I don't know if I'll ever get produced there but it's a public theater I mean that's where I learned to write intern there I had two year fellowship there that's my family that has always been my support group and a lot of these new leaders I see have come through the public and that's not surprising to me when I think about the public and the public's aesthetic I think it's a marriage of in its ideal form art that marriage of all those that has always been the most exciting theater for me I think if I could make a polite request to these new leaders it would be a plea for empathy I think I think there are enemies and they are real and I think sometimes we need to write about them from my perspective I think sometimes we need to point the finger demonize, get mad, and make art that is in protest but I think in order to build future bridges towards understanding that empathy needs to be remain at the center of our storytelling and I think empathy is slightly a risk of being lost I think being lost in the objectification of the art form I think we could lose lose that it's a very complicated statement as a white male to ask any artist to speak from a place of empathy because sometimes rage is appropriate and I'm not going to dictate at all I think it's just it was my entry point into the theater was from a place of wanting to understand what the other was to me and that other has shifted throughout my life but that endeavor seems to have a career in theater and I think it brings sort of humanistic values and I don't doubt these leaders are going to do it I know they're going to do it it's not to say they're not doing this this is just what I would wish for I have total faith in them I know some of them are amazing and they're going to do it and I would say coupled with that to be very brief is I have made race the focus of a lot of my work and slow going but I think it's absolutely worth the effort for me as a white male to begin to pick apart my privilege and my background and do it in a way that honors my working class background and so my my request is that class is not left out of the equation I think we absolutely need to prioritize race and our thinking and the way we program it's a necessity when you look at the world when we get there let's start thinking about class and the way that class unites us and the way that our working class has been purposefully strategically disassembled I mean I come from a union family and anything I have is courtesy of a union I don't forget that when I sit down to write and I want to see those stories and I don't see those stories as much as I wish and so a curiosity that that eventually goes past what you see into the writer and the person and I think class being an essential equation here in meritocracy and countering elitism in the American theater as a West Coast guy I feel very strongly that it's a lot harder to come from this region and go through New York and end up back here that's a much longer road than other roads but anyway I'll stop there thank you that's great so that's fantastic we're going to open it up in a moment for questions on any topic from any of you but I wanted to shout out our thinkers who aren't at the table right now and who are doing deep, deep, deep work throughout this festival so we all know Kwee, poor and yellow rednecks to be here but also Melissa Ross and Chisa Hutchinson just to sort of put their names out there and shout them out as amazing amazing people who have amazing amazing at the moment here and there's the composer oh yes he's flying back to New York he really rejected us left town so wonderful now that we've had a chance to like dream a little bit and think a little bit up here I'd love to open up the just for questioning for questions, brief comments anything you'd like to expand this conversation into anyone yeah Ron yeah I trust these leaders are gonna, are thinking about this they just, you just have to there's no point in diversifying your seasons if you are speaking to a not diverse audience so there I think it's going to happen and I have no idea how you do it I mean I think most players I know you see an empty seat at your show drives you crazy I mean you're like just sell that thing for $5 and grab someone off the street let's do this thing why that's impossible and then you hear that no we are trying and then nothing changes but I am Oscar Justus has made a concerted effort to make every single show at the public theater affordable to everyone when you do a play in New York even on Broadway there are programs to bring all high school students in and they're the best audience you'll ever play to building on that it's not a quick fix but take children to a theater and there are a lot of programs that bring great school children public funding to bring them in to see the theater help them to develop the habit early and then when they get to be adults they'll see it otherwise kids can grow to be 21 and never see a live show I'll real quick just add to that because I come from I just recently moved to LA from Minneapolis and I worked a lot with the theater and I think that there's a very tested legitimacy to the fact that money is an obstacle it is a legitimate obstacle to going to theater but then you go from there and I think you also discover that there's a feeling when you've not been invited to someplace for a long time that is probably boring and you probably don't want to go you know what I mean a good theater experience is also a priceless entry point into theater so like somewhere in the world of taking the financial out of it and having a good experience in the theater that feels like you and feels like you belong there I think are two things to strongly pursue just to throw that in there's also like I think we forget that there's theaters at every level there's so much theater done all over the country there's a doing in school they're doing it in churches they're doing it like in their backyards they're doing it everybody does theater it's not just other people something has stopped other people from getting to be here so that's just what we have to keep looking at and keep working at and figuring out I think okay so she told us that you can't hear us unless we say it back so the question is what can we as audience members do on our side to help you show us more than wide-angle accent stories bring your friends of color invite them to come with you or bring your kids or like it was interesting there was a there's a bit of a thing going on in Philadelphia right now because they're going to do one of my plays and they season as white people I'm gay so there's some there and the other two are women but there was quite a bit of an outcry that there was a signed letter from 19 people that there were no people but of those signed people they went and checked and none of them had seen the last production by a woman of color and I would be like oh dudes absolutely right but also it's your responsibility to go to the show and take ten people with you and then we can make the theater we want if we really want to make a theater let's make our theater and I think something that gets hard I guess this is why I want more of this is like you're not passive an audience isn't passive an audience is making the show with the people like I had such a blast in my show and the audience was in it and with it and lifting our actors our actors went up because they're like oh these people love us we are going to give them a show but we made it we made it you didn't just sit there it's not your job just to sit there and go like that that's TV and film right a lot of the people to the theater not just complain are people who say I don't like that bad language and I don't know why I'm seeing that trashy whatever so if you have a hunger to see working class stories or stories about less privileged people then you have to let the theaters know because otherwise all they hear from are the reactionaries I love him I love him he's just amazing he's just amazing I feel like we're solving everything you guys does he ever stick it boom so question right there can repeat your question she said as a teacher she knows that a lot of young people don't have any exposure to theater and then she said what are we personally doing to make sure they do so this is a good segue for me to talk about I run a concert series in New York called Broadway Playhouse which is free to New York City school children and they come in and they get an hour and we said today we're going to talk about Rodgers and Hammerstein here's who they are here's a little bit of their background here's one song that you are going to sing along with us here's a little bit of one of their musicals and we try to make it very vivid so that through the rest of their lives whenever they hear Rodgers and Hammerstein or Gershwin or whoever they've seen they know who that person is there's little simple education programs like that to talk about and you can do it in non-musical theater too but to get these great names to the next generation and interest them that's what I do Trinity Rep I worked at and they actually it was actually great because they did a school program I had a bunch of students that would come in early on with Adrian Hall and the kids would get bored and they started throwing things at the stage hahahaha hahahaha it actually changed their aesthetic because what they did was they were one of the early theaters that broke the wall and really worked with the audience, walked through the audience jumped on they actually said oh we've got to keep these kids interested we can't just do Shakespeare they changed how we do Shakespeare because they had to because of the students and actually we should probably think oh if we want students we might need to do more interesting work or we may have to do more of that like grab because kids have a shorter attention span and they're not as well behaved but that's alright hahahaha that's so funny no not always yeah no definitely good luck so for you howl around folks out there that was just a comment from the audience about how kids have amazing experience in theater at times and really connect with the material and I think that's so so true and I've seen that happen and I actually don't think it's a bad thing for us as artists and as theaters to have to live up to the rigor of entertaining our audience no matter what age they are or where they come from do you know what I mean like you can get very a theater maker if you're like oh it's most like my dinner party and it's people who are just like me here at my dinner I think there's something amazingly good for our theater about having to be responsible for entertaining the 12 year old that's sitting over there we're gonna we were that good we can do it you know we're capable yeah absolutely I want to thank you for saying that but I also want to say that there has been a concerted effort since Ronald Reagan to defund all education and particularly to drive the arts out of education no it's not stopping the teachers but we have to do something about the enemies of the quality of our lives so that was a shout out to the teachers who are putting on plays across America in spite of obstacles is what that was all I know is that kids get themselves to concerts yeah so they're not coming to us and there's a I know a bunch of kids that would have loved to see a quiz show I mean because it's amazing hmm it's a slightly different thing so just to repeat what you said which we're supposed to do the kids may love the theater but they go back to parents who don't know the theater I think our goal with this Broadway Playhouse thing is to make it so exciting and fun for them in the hour that they're they go home and say wow we went to this really cool thing today and I think most parents are still really interested in what their parents their kids have to say and I've had certain cases where the parent or the teacher said this kid coming to the theater changed this kids life they were really interested we had one little boy who was really a behavioral problem but he came to the first concert and he realized that he wasn't going to get to the second concert unless he behaved a little bit better so honestly I do think that the parents if you excite them enough the parents will hear and a lot of parents will figure out he seemed to like that play here's a play maybe I'll take them to another play that's the hope anyway we're running low on time so one last question ask for help I'll give you my email we'll put you in touch with other people who read new plays there's nothing more exciting rewarding for an artist a living artist of any age than to be able to give freely what was given to us freely so I'll give you my call so this is thank you a great closer we're getting a negative advice for aspiring young playwrights from all our panelists here I think one to piggyback on what Craig said one thing that's amazing about writers I would say more than any other artists that I can think of is that they actually do support each other there's a real feeling of well I couldn't write that play because you wrote it as opposed to you know I'm also an actor and actors are like get out of the way so and writers really aren't like that the other thing I would say is you know the reason that this is so this is just the most wonderful job and we all feel quite lucky to do it is because of the room of people that is you know reading your play and this is maybe annoying advice because it's certainly not how to get successful in 20 steps but you have to have your plays read out loud you have to have them read out loud often with people that you trust and you have to have them read out loud for an audience and that can happen in an apartment and that's how I started writing and that's what changed my life was having my plays read in just like really gritty sad ways and I would provide alcohol and cheese and that gets most people out of bed and that's going to the first thing is that's going to have people hear your stuff going to give you the emotional catharsis which is really how you like that's the carrot that's like the dragon you're chasing and it's also going to make you a better writer because if you don't know how your words sound coming out of an actor's mouth then you have really no idea if if the play flies so yeah we're pretty much at time so can I get one word no no no one word from the rest of you sorry for existing yeah just say do it just say do it my word is do it yourself do not be passive do not wait for a theater to pick you and get a first class production get your friends like you said like he did with the drag show put it on yourself it doesn't have to be professional initiate the work yourself and then people will see it and they'll join you I just want to say thank you I love coming here because you actually come listen and in New York everyone has 10,000 things to not see every night and I feel so grateful every time I'm here because of the audience yeah amazing thank you so much everyone thank you to our amazing panelists thank you for that conversation enjoy the rest of the day that was good you were only 10 wait yeah I'm going to bed now I have a shower in two thirds I have so many hours so early well you go and see the reading but then we have a little time after wait is there a reading now I have another reading panel panel so fun oh so good to meet you thank you


The mysteries of Islam fascinate us time and time again This is no different from the life story of the Prophet Who was Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa alihi wasallam and Illiterate doesn't merchant who want they stumbled upon amazing Arabic rhetoric or was he the creation of Allah's greatest light sent down to earth to pull man out of ignorance and bring them to the purest of truths I I Ali Burji I'm on a journey to discover the real story behind the Prophet The real story behind our religion the roots the beginning the cradle of civilization Allah was Allah Muhammadin wa Ali Muhammad bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim I'd like to acquire some information regarding those three days in the cave or at least some information what happened So why they just sitting there waiting? How would they know to leave? Why did they leave on the third day not on the first day? Yes, I would be learning a shaytan regime.   I'm a man. Oh, of course. This is all instruction from Allah. Subhanata Allah. Oh, of course it The the most significant thing that happened was that an ayah was revealed about Their stay in the cave. Yes, and the ayah states that That when Allah Subhanata Allah the kufar the disbelievers had have Forced him to leave forced him that's in the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi because Abu Bakr wasn't forced to leave If I may I can sort of read the verses Yes, they The ayah that was revealed Depicting if you like what happened in the cave and the states of the people the two people is Ella, Tansuru who faqad nasarahu Allah. You didn't give him support But Allah gave him the prophet speaking to Quraish. You did not give him support Yes, in that thing to Quraish feel like we go back to Earlier part of the verse but I'm not in order to save time I'm not reading the area part of the That you didn't support him him me being the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi faqad nasarahu Allah Hope Allah supported him Allah gave him victory If I heard jahul Latina cover That those who disbelieved forced the Prophet out of Mecca if you like So as I said again it the the the pronoun is by the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi Because abu bakr wasn't forced tanya it's name is homa fill ghara. So these two They were in the cave While they were in the car He tells his companion If you call it a sahibi he la t'hazan Do not grieve because he was very scared This companion this abu bakr. He was very scared and He was grieving and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi says do not grieve In a lot of money Allah is with us Now here comes a crunch for Anzal Allah who said he not a whole alayhi Okay, now a question the question a question. I love revealed or descended his second upon him him being the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi because they the All along Allah is talking about illa tansuru who don't you support him, which is the Prophet Faqad nasarahu Allah Allah gave him the Victory which is the Prophet it a khrajah aladina kufrutani it's me while the disbelievers Forced him out forced him being being the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi Fa Anzal Allah who said he not a whole alayhi Allah descended his second upon him And the point is he didn't this then they didn't say Fanzal Allah sakinah to Ali hima on both of them Allah only descended the skin on the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi and not the not abu bakr and Whereas in other verses of the Quran States that Allah was a lot who said he not a whole alayhi wa alayhi wa alayhi Allah descends descends his sakinah his tranquility upon his messenger and upon the Mu'mineen but and not in here Okay What does that mean? Yeah, I just wanted to recollect the information The thing is we are aware that The Sunni school of thoughts use this ayahs and this incident to collect Virtues for this personality abu bakr now from what we are discussing right now we see that Certain things indicate to a different direction For example, why would he be sad in the first place? What would it be why would for example abu bakr while in the cave with the holy prophets? Allah sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi wa alayhi be in a form of distress and sadness and sorrow Okay, because let's be frank about it. Yeah my logic dictates that if you're Putting someone to be amongst the best of the best because let's let's be frank abu bakr is placed second After the holy prophet some some some scholars even go as far as say that they're equal That they're equal. Okay, so if we put him second man after the holy prophet Wouldn't you expect something more than someone special like the second man? So if you're the second best that means your reactions you would anticipate from these personalities to have a certain eloquence and certain Attitude I Have seen no way or heard of nothing regarding a middlemen in aley salam acting or being mentioned in such a way This should make me think That there is a difference Now, why would he be sad and him being sad? I question myself and I want you to clarify for me. It mentions the ayah that the holy prophet tells instructs Abu Bakr not to be sad now if being sad would be some sort of a virtue that it was good for that Pacific a specific time to be sad the holy prophet would not tell him do not be sad, but Instructing him not to be that indicates that there is a vice there that there is there is a mistake There is a problem and Again later the ayah mentioning that Allah's power to Allah Yeah sends his Tranquility if you might say upon the holy prophet does not mention both and then you mentioned in other ayahs Allah's power to Allah mentioned that he senses for quality a on the holy prophet and the mu'minine Which he doesn't mention here which indicates something that the whole Allah's power is trying to tell us something Even after the years whatever hadith come from either side Allah's power is trying to tell us something here Now What is he trying to tell us? That does this is very crucial because we're coming into a point in history of the holy prophet Which we can indicate certain things which will affect the future later on why would the Allah's part a la Mention this it's very important. That means there's something that needs to be exposed here, which is crucial Now what is it is being intended? We have to say it straight as it is it is being exposed that Abu Bakr May not have been the person we think or is it we are being taught that he is now we want to be objective and I want you to Point out according to your research I Am aware I've heard from Sunni scholars that a lot of virtues are taken that also for example in daya He's mentioned as a Hebrew who Yeah, now what what we understand from the word sahib is a companion and obviously a lot from Ahlul Sunnah sahib may go beyond companion best friend a family Like an unbreakable bond But here there is a contradiction Because you would expect something more so why Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala mentioning sahib I want to understand Is this what sahib pointing a virtue towards Abu Bakr? Does it mean they're saying that Allah's recognizing Abu Bakr as a friend of Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam Or does Sahib have another meaning to it that is it's common I did hear about this topic. I did hear about another scholar. Shea scholar The there are mentions in the holy Quran regarding this word sahib that it does not necessarily mean friend Oh, it does not indicate that it's referring to a mu'min For example, it mentioned about Nabi Yusuf alaihi salam when he was in the prison There's this ayah in the holy Quran that he was in the prison with Mushriq's non-believers And he would talk to them about Allah SWT but in the Quran Allah SWT mentions that Yusuf was speaking to the Sahab This indicates that as have would not necessarily be an attribute meaning that whoever's mentioned as a hub is a best friend Correct. Yeah, okay so From here that we put big question marks that anyone who's listening Can take it and investigate further inshallah, okay, so here is there anything else you would like to Tell me anything else you would like to expose or contribute regarding the incident of the cave as You mentioned as you rightly mentioned that sahib doesn't Signify anything other than the fact that he was a companion. He was accompanying him and you mentioned in the case of a Prophet Yusuf Allah Nabi Nawa Ali alaihi salam that the this ashab that he had Impresened with him and he was talking To them and when they asked him about the dream that they had any He responded to them Allah SWT refers to them as a Sahab of Prophet Yusuf alaihi salam Whereas Prophet Yusuf if you like was Muslim and And those as have work for they still at that at that time they went Muslims and Still they were Referred to as a Sahab and of course we have another eye in the Quran in surat al-kaaf What? You how were who? Waqa al-sahabi wa-waihawro. So he said to his companion while he was talking and of course this companion was a kafir and the speaker was a Muslim the speaker believed in Allah SWT and The address he was a kafir that the one who was being called sahib in the Quran is Someone who is a kafir non-believer So yes sahib doesn't mean anything other than A companion is someone who is accompanying someone else nothing more than that He could be of a completely different religion. He could be of no religion. He could be good or bad person You know, it doesn't mean anything other than doesn't signify anything other than the fact that he's accompanying another person so That doesn't mean anything that doesn't signify anything it doesn't carry any weight Yeah, and of course they try to people say that You were his his companion in the cave and so on but that doesn't mean anything That really doesn't mean anything and as you mentioned that This eye Allah SWT is Trying to expose him that Allah descends the Sakina upon the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi and doesn't descend upon His the companion who is said to be over through our journey whereas whereas in other verses In other verses Allah SWT Allah sakinatahu alayhi ala Rasulihi wa ala al-mu'mineen Some say oh it Of course, this is completely wrong and it doesn't go along with the with the verse with a Quranic verse. They say this was revealed upon Now the Prophet upon Abu Bakr and because the Prophet doesn't need didn't need the Sakina at that time Whereas we say as I said later on Later on we have this eye revealed. What is Allah sakinatahu ala Rasulihi wa ala al-mu'mineen. So Is the contradiction. Yes, it's a contradiction and then if you if you read the other the rest of the Ia wa ayyadahu fa'anzal allahu sakinatahu alayhi wa ayyadahu bejunudil lam tarawha Allah endorsed and supported the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi with Soldiers that you don't see melaika that is angels with soldiers that you don't see So are they claiming if the Sakina was descended on the on Abu Bakr that he was supported by Soldiers or troops That were invisible. Yeah, of course no one claims such a thing so yes, this claim that it was revealed on Abu Bakr really doesn't stand any chance and The only thing that says Allah that Sakina was as you can see from siyaq al aya. It was revealed on the the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi and the fact that it wasn't revealed on Abu Bakr. It means that He doesn't have the Imam so that he qualifies for Sakina to descend upon him because we have in the Quran another place that Allah says the sakina on the Mu'mineen li yasdadu imana. So when ma alima ma fi qulubi him La qadrata yallahu an laddini bayu'unaka. So when ma alima ma fi qulubi him. When Allah It was clear. What is in the hearts in terms of iman and in the heart of the Mu'mineen? fa anzalallahu sakina tahu li yasdadu alayhim li yasdadu imana So that it this sakina enhances and Increases the iman which they already have in their house increases the iman The fact that in here it doesn't descend on Abu Bakr the fact that it shows that he didn't have iman so that he qualifies for receiving the sakina Like all other mu'mineen. Now again, this is this is for some people can be shocking But obviously at the end of the day we need to all Listen to these arguments with a clear mind Well, listen to this we have to investigate as well Yeah, it takes a lot of independent research and investigation and questioning and also with Allah's Blessing, which is Yeah, it should be done with unbiased exactly state of mind and basically this is the The Quran which is saying this and And of course there are many other verses which reveal a lot of Issues which people are if you're like unaware of because It hasn't been explained and the tafsir that Yeah, as you said it has not been explained correctly because that's the problem we have these days And I was context as well and you know makes his own tafsir He can give his own explanation. For example in surah al-juma when it says What are you doing while you're delivering while you're praying or delivering? Salat al-juma Where they're out gelatin over and when they saw you know Caravan of trade and so on arrived. They leave the problem abandon the Prophet And for salat al-juma they abandon the Prophet and they go after the Business and the trades that they wanted to pursue This is what the time when they were all if you like Muslims believers and so on they are praying they're praying behind the Prophet but they abandon him. This is in the Quran so there are many issues like this which are We should be taken Carefully should be thought about carefully and so be noticed. Unfortunately, they haven't been clarified And so to the extent that people don't notice them they read them, but they don't reside and recognize What's happening? It indicates that the the mu'mineen or the Muslim or whatever at that time at the time of the Prophet While the Prophet was saying the prayers they abandoned him to a cook a qa'ima they abandoned him and went after the their trades What happened according to some narrations that? The first one who came forward to to hit the Prophet thinking that he was a prophet was had been worried and Amir money, alaihi salam grabbed him by his arm and twisted his arm and Firmly holding or rasping his hand so that he can make his sword He make him to let go of his sword and and he took his sword and he threatened him so that really demoralized the warriors of Quraysh Allah


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So, Dave, first off, thank you for coming on. We have quite a market here. And, you know, the bottom line is that it's been a one-way market on the way down. And I mean, you know, as you come over to our website, folks, the Direction banner's right there. You can hit that banner. And you can take a look at the different types of products that, you know, Direction has. We haven't had a market like this in quite a while, Dave. Yeah, you're exactly right. And look, I think one of the last times I was on, you were talking about sort of the ABC structure. Yes. That we were seeing with the S&P 500. I mean, has that not played out? Bottom line, so kudos to that call. But bottom line is that this market is having a hard time finding some footing. And I think what's interesting is that financial conditions, which is a measure of, you know, credit spreads, equity markets, what's happening with the Fed, you know, to try to quantify all that really aren't yet at a stress point. So, you know, I think when you're hearing calls for a further correction of seven, eight, maybe 10%, it's not implausible. So I think this environment is one where people have to stay nimble. And particularly just today, you know, the inflows that we're seeing into SPDN, which is our inverse 1x fund for the S&P 500, which is kind of that direct hedging pool, are really high. You know, again, logical people want to take some risk off the table. But I think it's hard directionally to identify sort of what areas in the market are going to do well going forward, which is I think why we're starting to see with fears of 50 basis points, maybe 75 rate hikes, people just taking their chips off the table and waiting until we get to this Fed, this May meeting. And in the meantime, dealing with all these earnings that are coming out. There's no doubt. And when Dave was just talking about that one-to-one ETF folks on the S&P, this is something that you really want to understand.  That's my point more than anything, folks, okay? And that, you don't want to make sure you understand what you're doing, but the fact of the matter is a delta-neutral strategy right now is not bad. I mean, you can do that as an insurance policy. That's what it really comes down to. Yeah. No, it's a great way to put it. The other interesting thing I'll say is that, and someone used this conversation earlier today, you're going long to go short in this particular case. To your point, if you have, most people are generally net long, right? Yes. Particularly for trading. And it's a way where I can maybe continue to have the positions I want to have on, whether they're individual stocks or just the broad-based index, and kind of use part of my portfolio to hedge out some risk. And that tool, and giving you that one-to-one inverse exposure on it, again, it's still a daily product. People need to understand that. But to give you that kind of daily hedge can be pretty effective because, yeah, like I said, it's hard to read the tea leaves in this particular market because just the number one, all the uncertainty that exists geopolitically coupled with these macro headwinds that we're facing and what the Fed may do, and earnings have been good. Right. Net-net, but maybe not good enough really to get that confidence back. We'll see, again, I mean, ask anyone, this week's going to be super important with Alphabet tonight, Amazon, Apple later in the week. And frankly, if they're not shooting the lights out, I think that the negative momentum and the bears are going to kind of continue to be in charge here, at least until we get to that Fed meeting. No, there's no doubt. Now, I want to change gears on you, and I'm not sure whether you can speak about this, but if we could just speak about that. There's been a lot of articles out, actually, that Direction is going to beat the other two larger funds with ETFs and leverage ETFs inside of the Bitcoin market. Well, they may, okay, because the bottom line is, so is this something you can talk about on the air, maybe? Yes. So we filed for a fund that effectively would offer the inverse exposure to Bitcoin, can't speak to if that is going to be available or when that's going to be available. But a similar idea, and I think in this market, it's been difficult to find anything to hold up well. Yes. Bitcoin has been challenged. Right. Oil is obviously having a bit of a better today, but there's been days where commodities have been whacked just alongside of that. Oh, yeah. So what we're thinking of is continuing to provide tools really for tactical traders to either have that ability to outperform, but also increasingly trying to bring tools for people to kind of hedge their portfolio. Right. And this would be one of those similar to kind of, we talked about SPDN. So traders, you know, stay nimble, but stay active because it's going to be kind of, I think, rock sailing at least for the next couple of weeks. No, exactly. And listen, congratulations because that was a great move and we're going to get this explained on the air because pretty cool, man, really cool. You have a great one, a safe one, Dave. We look forward to speaking to two weeks from yesterday. Thank you. Have a great one. Have a safe one. Stay right there, folks. We'll come right back. Are you looking for a way to consistently add winning trades to your portfolio? Tom O'Brien is here to help. Tom O'Brien has been successfully trading markets for over 30 years, a frequent contributor to TD Ameritrade Network and CNBC. Tom O'Brien founded TFNN over 20 years ago to help educate investors just like you. 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Oh, man, this is intense. Okay, so this one here you're talking about 530. No, you're talking about a 434A to B. That's going to get you 2,800. No, 12,800. Yeah, you're at 13,065. This is fast and furious, man. Protect yourself the best you can, because this is not, you know, these, picture this, folks, these rates, the rates themselves, you can see that the bond market's not even moving, man, and you're down like big. Let's get over to our mammoth to Basil Chapman as you do each and every Tuesday at 20 past the hour. And don't forget, folks, Basil has an outstanding show here every trading day. 10 to 11 Eastern Standard Time also has a great newsletter, the opening call. Now, it's very easy to get the opening call, folks. You come over to our website at TFNN, and you're going to see this right under, sorry, you're going to see it right under featured content. You just hit that button and you are off to the races and you'll understand how this market works. Basil Chapman, how you doing? Well, off to the races. I'm not sure what would be cool. This one, this is on the race downhill, slow. It is. This is a bobsled going downtown, man. It is. And what's really interesting is, I'd shown this chart to subscribers this morning and I said, we're going to have to watch this. Let me see if I can find a chart. I know exactly what you said because I was driving and what Basil said, folks, and remember, this program's archived, well, this program's archived because he was given it 90 minutes. I was cracking up, Basil, and you said, I'm giving this down 90 minutes with that price and unfortunately it broke it, right? Yeah. And basically what I was saying is that the pattern of the candles of the 24th of January. Yes. The candle of the 24th of February and yesterday's candle, and I'll just see if I can do this. I'll make it a little bit bigger. Yeah. So basically what we're looking at is that the candle I call, the Chapman Way of Roman candle that is in there. Oh, I don't even want to talk about it. In the S&P monthly chart, but it's red. When it's green and at lows, you can get a really strong rally, which is what we got on the 24th of January. You see this big green candle where we've got a tiny little wick, a long wick at the bottom and then it closes a half to two thirds of the low. And then we got the rally from $32,150 to $35,824 and then it plunged again and made us exactly the same candle on the 24th of February called Chapman Way of Roman candle. A tiny little wick, a long body, but a green one and the rule of thumb is how quickly it can close above the left side high. And look what happened. Eventually it went to the high of $35,372. Peak D pulls back. Made that Thursday, I think it was this last Thursday, big spike to $35,492 and plummeted down. And then yesterday we had the same candle, but three times in a row without great success. I say to subscribers, we've got to be, we actually went along yesterday morning. It was this morning for a profit. And I said, let me, I can take this away now. And then I said, if there is a move below the, and this is what you were talking about, below $35,590. Yes. That holds for about 90 minutes. Watch out because we could test the low of the day. Well, the low so far today, $33,312. Yesterday's low was $3,323. So that's exactly what we did. You were talking about the closing bell. And immediately after that we have, does Microsoft, I don't know Google, but does Microsoft also announce straight away? They do. It's literally within seconds. You'll see Microsoft and Google come out with it. And of course, what ends up happening folks, the futures are open for another 15 minutes. Yeah. So it's going to affect the market for sure. And because the futures are open, that's very different to if you have this overnight slump or big move up. And then by the morning, anything can happen by the time the market opens. But when this, when you got 15 minutes, it's a lifetime 15 minutes. So the question I was getting through this morning is, for me, this is for my subscribers, this is one of our biggest cash positions we've had in a very long time. We have very few long positions. The latest ones that we have are actually holding quite nicely even in this market right now. But what I wanted to do is to show them that if the XLP, which is the S&P Select Staples, starts to fall here, that's been the leader because there's defensive, not defense like Raytheon or Rocky Mott, but defensive, Procter & Gamble, et cetera. If you lose that, so that's the one thing. So I'm a little worried on that. That bias is to say we've had support, but now you're getting fewer and fewer sectors that we had the support of the finance, the oil, the chevrons of the world helping the Dow. But all of a sudden, we might lose that. So the reason why I went through some of the Microsoft and Google this morning is the chart pattern, they're on the cusp. You always talk about ICE. We're on ICE. I mean, 270 round number on the 8th of March for Microsoft goes to a peak D. That's what we're always looking for in the Chapman wave for a buy mode. And then it plunges, it comes down. And yesterday there was 270.77. So the thinking that I had was if Microsoft announces good news and maybe they say they're buying back whatever number of shares and it helps. I don't know what they can say about the outlook and that's really the big issue right now. And Google, they're going to have to come up with something absolutely amazing. And Google's the same thing. Look at the chart, this arch formation. Look at that. We broke it. This is the generation that I always talk about. Yes. So all I'm saying is that I've been saying for weeks and weeks, raise cash, have cash handy. This is a market that is highly vulnerable. We have found really nice stocks in the good, short-term, good percentage gains. But I can't, I don't see anything right now that I can feel, I can lash onto and say, hey, I don't care if it pulls back 6% or 8%, but things can fall 15% to 20% here because we saw that in the huge big caps. So while looking out, I think so far I'm still in the camp that says we've used up a tremendous amount of time.  We're just, you know, at 33,000, 350, we're still in the range. So the whole thing is if we've usurped time rather than price, because under these conditions, you'd say I can understand if the market was down 18% or 20%, we aren't there yet. So far it's held well. This is going to be a key. Do we see Microsoft and Google and Amazon and Apple this week save the day and at least use time rather than price? Get that life jacket out. The real question is, who has that life jacket, man? No doubt. You have to be careful right now, yes. You have a great one. The safe one, Bazzy. We look forward to your show tomorrow. Thank you, Tom. You too. Thank you. Stay right there. Folks will come right back. The gold market has taken off topside in a large way. If you want to take advantage of this sector, now is the time to subscribe to my Gold Report. The Gold Report is a comprehensive look at the metal sector as well as the markets that move gold, which is the currency and bond markets. New subscribers get a 30-day money back guarantee so you have nothing to lose. Every Monday morning I publish the Gold Report with coverage of gold, silver, bonds, the XAU, HUI, GDX, as well as more than 30 different mining equities. 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Now, yesterday, looking at Microsoft, it looked like Microsoft could bounce a bit. Now, Microsoft, no doubt coming into its low. That being said, though, you are coming in with some juice here. So, if I take this, put this. Yeah, this is not cool, man. Yeah, I think, you know what? I think this is going to be a disaster. You got 270. We hit 270106, and you haven't hit 270. See, this is a problem. Well, we'll see what ends up happening after the close, but I want to show you something here. You get a high volume low at 270. We got down to, thus far, 270.77. Well, guess what? That's not 270. And the way this is set up is like, are you kidding me, man? You can jump the creek, and if you jump the creek, this is going to be a real problem big time. Tesla. So, Tesla, guess what? Good old Elon, the bottom line is that he got the deal done. That being said, his shareholders don't like it, man. Look at this sale, man. $39 million, it blew away everything. $39 million shares today, down $111, and Tesla has a high volume low laying out at $700. And my take is that's where this is going. What's going to be intriguing about the takeover of Twitter is that my take, number one, is that, you know, he paid way too much for it, because what happens, pitchless, we're in the down market. He just, Twitter's the only stock that's up, right? So, he overpaid for the deal, and simultaneously no one, well, the bankers know exactly what he's doing with his shares. Realistically, he's probably getting one-third margin on his shares. I don't think the banks would give him 50. If they give him 50 on his shares, man, the banks, he's going to be in trouble. But that's where he came up with the money. That being said, when you take a look at Tesla, so watch this, because if you don't hold the $700 on Tesla, this gets pretty dicey, man. So, bring this up, and put it on a four-year weekly. And what you're going to see here is that, once Tesla gets into $884, and we're at $886 right now, you're talking a whole different range. You're talking a range that goes out of $539. Now, if that's what you get, man, you know, when I look at Tesla, my take is that Tesla can get down to like 502. And the way I do this, of course, is that when you get a market that is going south, and Tesla, no doubt, has gone up without volume since $695. That's, I mean, the rest of that, there's no volume on the way up, but guess what, we know how this goes. You can still go up. But when these pull back, the last day or last week would volume. And guess what? You know, one of the prices is $695. That would make sense because it's $700 on the other side. You break that, though. Bottom line is that you're down to $398, not $398, 502. So, you're talking about some intensity here, folks, in a very large way when we start talking equities. That's the bottom line. It's a problem. There's no doubt. Let's go take a look at a couple of the... We'll go to ExxonMobil. A couple of targets want to look at ExxonMobil. Exxon here. Yeah, I wouldn't mess with this stock. Exxon looks like it's going to set up an ABC down. So, what you also have here is this. This is a re-pricing of assets, period, right across the board. You know, yeah, oil can be at $100. Guess what? Everyone is going to be paying less for an asset. You know, this looks to me like a pure ABC down. A to B is set up. It looks like the C just got set up today. And if it is, it's $89 to $79 to $10. That gets you $74. That's probably the bottom of this consolidation. It probably threw it into a consolidation. That's what I expect that more than likely happened out here. Now, let's go take a look at some of the higher volume equities, and this is going to be a high volume market today. You've got Advanced Microdown, $5.5. Apple's off $5.5. Tesla's the big one, $111. Warner Brothers is off $1.60. You've got Microsoft down $10. They're selling Microsoft. GE's down $9.5. That's a big number for GE. GE's over 11%. AMC is off $140. That's a lot of selling, man. And now what you're going to see happening, folks, is that because of the acceleration down and because of the levels that we're at right now, there's unfortunately going to be a lot of folks that are starting to get a little worried. That just accelerates it down. That's the reality. So if we look at the spy, you're going to see right now, that's a high volume low laying on a spy at $410. You're at $417. When you get this close, bottom line, it wants to get hit. If we break that area, we'll put this back up here for a second, you're going to see it's a very dangerous market, man. It's a very dangerous market. The reason it's such a dangerous market is this, folks, is that we traveled nonstop from 2006 all the way up to 2000, not 2006, sorry, man, 2020, the pandemic low. Look at this. The spy was 218. We got up to a price of $479. And we've talked about this before. If you do, it's just do a normal retracement. So picture, a normal retracement in a bull market is basically 50%. Well, guess what? This downdraft right here has only done a 23% retracement. So a 38% retracement, which is a normal retracement, brings the spy to 380.  You know, if we take a look at the NDX100, we bring the NDX100, we take a look at that, we do the same type of exercise on the NDX100. What we have, you've got, let's see, take this, put this on a weekly set. I see that, this is what's pretty cool. On the NDX, what you have is that you're coming into a little support. The problem is, is that you've got a high volume low that we've been talking about for a while, which is 297. And I expect we're going to go after that right now, tonight. You know, you're 318, well, tonight and tomorrow. If you break this, more than likely what you have, you get a problem. That's the bottom line.  So this is like insane. It's not insane. 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The funds are designed to be utilized only by sophisticated investors such as traders and active investors. Distributor, 4-Side Fund Services, LLC. Toll Free at 1-877-927-6648. Internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER>. I'm O'Brien. Welcome back, folks. Dow is down 730. Nasdaq's off 465 s&p's are down about 10. Let me show you. We'll do the spy as well as the cues to make this ABC down because this can make this ABC down to come into the close. So you can see, I got the spy up here first. See that bar right there? That bar, that's the bar we took out below. You had 2.5 million in the 10-minute and we were taking out 1.6. You take the top of that there with the spy 428. That's your A, your B's 418, your 10 bucks. Your C is out there at 421. That's 411. That's on the spy. We take a look at the NDX100. NDX right here. You're going to see same type of setup. Here's the B. That's where it broke. It had 2.3 million going into 1.1. Bottom line, you get your A point set up there at 329. Your B is out here at 319, 10 bucks. And you see 321, which gets you at 311. So... And you don't have capitulation yet because this is what normally happens in a market like this, folks, is that you're down like this, and then it takes another leg down. And we haven't seen that yet. There's only been one full leg down today. You build a cause for the second leg. We're on the second one right now. We'll see if it goes to fruition. But that's kind of when you know that everyone simultaneously is selling at the same time. We did get another big down tick. We got a down tick of minus 17 something, I think. 1743. So it's getting there. That's the bottom line. You can see this down tick. So yesterday we had a down tick of 16 15. Where is that 17? It's interesting. It says 17 at the top, but I've only got a 1237. It must be in... It would make sense that you get a 17. I mean, that's... that would make sense. When you're getting into bottoms, at least short-term bottoms, what you're going to see is you're going to see the aspect that you reject lower price. You bounce dramatically on the way up. It's too late to do that today, I can tell you that. 15 minutes, it doesn't fly like that unless you're going to have Powell come in front of a microphone and say that, hey, listen, we're not going to go up in the race. We're only kidding. We know that that's not going to happen. So, you know, I think it's a re-pricing. It's a re-pricing of all assets. That's how this is shaken out. We go back to Google for a second and Google looks like it's going to close at the low of the day. It's been moving around.  You've got a little pop. We've got a little pop, actually, right when I came on the air. It popped up to this 2446 and just gave up 24 points. Pretty intense. Microsoft and, you know, a couple of the Tigers and Tigers says, if you haven't been in our trading room, folks, check it out. It's only a dollar.  We've got a great trading room. We've got a lot of Tigers, a lot of Tigers. A lot of people that have been in this market for a long time and know what they're doing. Okay? We know that there's no crystal ball, but guess what? We're all in the probability business. And the more ideas that are out there or all smart people, you can take that idea into your head, decide what you want to do with it and go from there. And what they were just talking about, I bet this is going to be the deal. They were talking about the aspect that Microsoft and Google will probably come out and say, hey, listen, I got a large buyback. Great. You got a large buyback. Because guess what? You're going to be buying it all the way down. That's how they blow their cash. That's what we get. Their job is to keep the stock up, too. There's no doubt about that. That being said, though, it doesn't look to me like it's going to hold. We take a look at Microsoft. So this is the number that Microsoft's going to be looking for. Microsoft's going to be looking for a top-line number of 49 billion. And that is a contraction. Last quarter, they did 51. They're going to be looking to take $2.19 to the bottom line. Google. We're going to take a look at Google. Google is going to be looking to take to the top line. Right now, Google's trading at $2,400. They're going to look for the top line of $56 billion and $25. And you can kind of see in both of these numbers, which is pretty wild, both of these numbers, well, maybe they do, they probably do the best in the fourth quarter. That makes sense, because you got Christmas, you got a buying. In both these cases, they are seeing, you know, a contraction of gross revenue.  I think it's going to be a problem. That's the bottom line. So let's see their PE. $115, $1222. I got to see what the difference is in this Bloomberg. Well, so it happens here. If you watch in Bloomberg, it says estimate PE $1222. But then, earnings per share is $115. I don't get that. We take a look at Microsoft. So Microsoft, that's running it at estimate PE of $28. But you can see the PE 9. That's going to be quite a deal. Let's go take a look at the XAU and the HUI, okay? And we know they threw everything out. What I want to see here is exactly how much volume we got yesterday, because both the XAU as well as the HUI, going back to where they broke out from. So we had out here yesterday, you did volume out here of $42 million, and you're going into $60. So that's cool.  This is what you want today. I want to see, we'll bring this up in a second, because I want to show you how this goes. So right there, see, this is cool what's happening. And what we'd like to see is that yesterday you did $60 million, $42 million, rather, in the XAU. So you want, tomorrow, we get this at 8 o'clock tonight. So you want to see a contraction of that, because you're still going into a higher volume level, which is $60. Then, you know, this just goes down to $155 million, so, this is what you want to see. For the XAU, you know, $145 million, $142 million, so, we hit it. Okay, so this is the type of test that you're looking for when you're looking for test. You're looking that it actually got to the price point, this got under yesterday's low by one penny. Now, we need index, I suspect this is going to be set up the same way. OK, this is going to be cool. OK, we're going to take a look at this. And it's going to be the same number. Yeah, which is cool. OK, so yesterday we came in with 30 million going into 48. So that's how it works. That's cool. And let's go to Newmont and Barrett, because that'll tell us if we're going to get lighter volume. So yes, oh, this is good, man. OK, so you had volume of 9 million yesterday on Newmont. You only get 3.8 today. That's really good, because the reason I'm looking at these two folks, these two are the highest weighting structures. The same deal with Barrett. Barrett had 32 million yesterday only at 19. So that's telling me we get the volume straight now in the XAUDHUI. Now what you need, however, is that you need a rejection of lower price. Dow Industries right now down 733. Nasdaq's up 470. S&P's off 110. Stay right there, folks. I'm right back. Sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument. You have to practice, sure. But you also need excellent instruction from experts. At TFNN, you'll get advice and guidance from the authority in technical market analysis. And it's not just dry, tedious text either. TFNN airs live financial content streamed live on TFNN.com and TFNN's YouTube channel with Tiger TV, live every market day from 8.30 AM to 4.00 PM Eastern. For free, each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on the market while taking calls and questions live from around the world. 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Live on your mobile device, 24 hours per day. Go to TFNN.com and hit Watch Tiger TV. That's TFNN.com and hit Watch Tiger TV. Welcome back, folks. The hour's down 737. NASDAQ's up 479. S&Ps are up 111. And we were just talking about the Tigers then on Discord. It's a buck, folks. OK, you want to give a great idea? One of the Tigers out here, PPLT. You want to hide somewhere? This is a great place to hide, folks. This is the platinum market. When you take a look at this, I'll show you what's happening here, though. So this is a platinum ETF. You're trading at $85.88. So these are the ones I love. And what I mean by that is that what you have is that we take a look at this. This just come down in the last three months from $109 to $85. You have the high volume low that it had to go after. The high of the low is $85.58. The bottom is $83. Well, you can see what ended up happening yesterday. The bottom line, that volume there is $293,000. Guess what? You went into that with $161. Then you take off. That's on the daily. And that's telling me that this thing wants to get all the way back up to the high, which is $109. That's the first spot. I'll put this on a weekly. And what you're going to see on the weekly, it's the same type of setup that you came back to the bottom of where it broke topside going all the way back in November of 2020. Dangerous where it went, no doubt. But bottom line, guess what? You rejected lower price on the daily, on the weekly. And my take is that that wants to go higher. And that is if we take a look at platinum in general, what you're going to see is that, yeah, this has already got toasted, which that's what you want, folks. I mean, if you're going to go somewhere, you want something that's already pulled back. And then what you put on top of that is that, OK, are we in inflation? Are the metals going to move? That's going to be a personal choice for you, guys, for what it is. But you can see when we take a look at this platinum in the last three months, this went from $11.85 here at $9.25. Bottom line, it's a bottom of the consolidation. And you've rejected the bottom of the consolidation. So it's pretty cool. And I appreciate it, Frank. Thanks so much. Thanks to all you tigers and tigers, isn't it? Telling you, folks, get over to TFNN. Hit the Go Into Services. You're going to see Discord, Tiger's Den for $1. Telling you, it's pretty cool, really is. And always remember, folks, to back and claw your hideout. The book can run you over. And thank God, there's always another trade. Health happens in prosperity. Have a great night, folks. Have a safe night. Come back and visit Tommy tomorrow morning. Kicks us off at 9 o'clock in the morning. Great show. As I do the update, right at 3, bottom line. We'll see if Google comes out, Microsoft comes out. I'll get you the numbers. Have a great one, folks. Have a safe one.


My solution to cronyism is to make government impotent when it comes to the economy. If the government has no economic power, then nobody has an interest in lobbying for it. The more power the government has, the more cronyism there is. Because, and I'll give you this quick example since we're talking about bogates, I might as well use bogates as an example. In 1995-96, Microsoft spent on lobbying in the United States exactly $0. It spent no money lobbying. It had no lawyers in Washington. It has no presence at all in Washington, D.C. And Bill Gates and his management team were brought in front of the U.S. Senate. And the Republican senator stood up and yelled at him, You've got to have a presence here. You've got to build a building here. You've got to spend money here in Washington, D.C. And when the executives left the Senate, they said, Look, we're not interested. You leave us alone. We're going to leave you alone. Six months later, knock on the door at Microsoft, we're here from the Justice Department. And you're in violation of antitrust laws because you're offering a product for free. Internet Explorer, for those of you who remember. And that's illegal. Of course, according to antitrust laws, pretty much all business is illegal. But that's a different topic. Guess how much Microsoft today, after 20 years in the court system, being monitored by government, being regulated by government, basically destroying their business, guess how much money they spent today on lobbying in Washington, D.C.? Tens of millions of dollars. They have a beautiful building right next to Cato, right behind the Cato building. A glass building, many stories about equal distance from the White House and the House of, you know, the Congress, right? Now, they learned the lesson. If you don't play the politician's game, the politician will come after you. So you want to make cronyism go away? Make politicians have no power, zero, over economic decisions. So I believe in rewriting the American Constitution to include a separation between state and economy.