what's up guys we're back with another video today we have a box and we're gonna find out what's inside now okay so we have this open this is from the orca shop official i'll pop them up on the screen we've done a video for them like two different times and both times you guys have really loved it so they sent us more orca stuff and some stuff to open so first of all we have this i'm really hyped about ghosts from the past yeah we said we were done but we're never done we got ghosts from the past three packs then we have a smaller box inside of the first box let's see what's in this thing i'm guessing some orcas all right they sent us a few things so we have it looks like some wing dragon of raw sleeves these are gonna be really cool check those out that's super cool wing dragon a rock i love that i don't know i think that's maybe the tune that looks really good then we have our special orca that we're gonna go through we don't want to look at them yet we have the orca shop dot com right here so we got all the info all that stuff quantity discounts 20% for two products 30% for three products so last time we had a percentage off for using rocks and 34 now they're doing a free wing dragon of raw all you have to do is pay the shipping so like you don't even have to buy anything you guys can buy let me show you what it is tune wing dragon of raw from the last video you guys can get this for free just pay the shipping they said it's $2.30 i sank or something like that so it's not too much just pay that and you get this guy for free and we have a couple of boxes we have a metal raiders Korean box check that out and we have an ancient prophecy booster box so this is crazy guys so an ancient prophecy booster box i've never actually opened a booster box of ancient prophecy so that's pretty crazy all right i think we're gonna save this invasion of chaos for a different video because we open all this it's gonna be insanely long so what we're gonna do is we're gonna open up ghosts from the past and ancient prophecy and we're gonna mix in these orcas as we go we're not gonna do them all at the end we're gonna make it a little bit more exciting let's go into the ghost from the past first then we'll go into ancient prophecy and we will do these orcas along the way and see what new orcas they've sent us because i'm pretty excited they usually send some really cool stuff and if they send us a ghost around here we're gonna lose it just saying we have another chance we've already pulled dark magician and we've pulled blue eyes alternative dragon so i mean we'll take another one of those obviously or we will take a uh you know anything else any of the ghosts all right so we have three packs here we're gonna open these three then we're gonna look at one of these okay we kind of spoiled that one so we'll go through we'll go through them so here we go ghosts from the past can we pull a ghost rare in three packs what do you guys think i don't think so but it's possible we're definitely not gonna rule it out time thief double barrel oh that's the last card wait okay that was five for some reason i thought it was four here we go the chance at a ghost rare and then we have a chance at the uh legendary ancient fairy dragon ghost rare as well so that's gonna be pretty cool so the driest and your goonity whirlwind okay all right one more pack of ghosts from the past i'm glad that they sent this got gotta love opening some ghosts from the past we have opened a lot of it on the channel but it's still fun cosmo dark lady we got the durandal ojama country sun avon bloom and love all of all salamander all right no ghost dang it all right maybe next time okay let's open up these orca cards so basically orca cards are fake cards they're made they're made by you know at this point it's a company but they're just like fan made cards so they're really cool uh they're fun to open they're they're not super expensive because they're not actually real cards but they have some really really nice art on these like they have the art and they just like make it more halloween they make it bigger and make it full art they make it just really cool so it's always fun to open these up and you guys can check out their shop in the description if you guys are interested in purchasing any and of course the wing dragon of raw is free if you just pay the shipping so don't forget about that really cool card to start us off pot of prosperity we got the whole stack over here we're gonna keep it pretty exciting let's get into this ancient prophecy booster box so this is pretty cool i've never opened this we could potentially pull a ghost rare ancient fairy dragon which would be insane that would be so cool to pull all right here we go this is a pretty old set at this point like 10 years old maybe even 11 maybe 11 years old okay it has this little thing at the front i just realized that after five minutes of struggling so there we go okay we got it at this point it's like seven minutes in for me it's probably gonna be like two minutes in for you guys all right let's see what we can do can we pull something epic out of ancient prophecy uh is this gonna be like a european box i guess because they are from europe i believe so probably so a major upset okay right off the bat ultra rare black wing value the emblem of honor isn't that a decent one solidarity cool is there a big common rare in ancient prophecy i don't think there is i don't think there is i think most of that stuff was in the other 5d sets but a black wing card really cool really cool black wing value all right so we got a stack here let's just do one every single pack let's reveal one ooh divine arsenal Zeus so uh i don't know how I think this is playable in tournaments but you could definitely throw it in you know just for fun i think it has the real um it has the real text and everything so if you wanted to play with it in non tournament you could definitely looks really nice too it looks really nice all right next pack ancient prophecy here we go let's get us an epic pull we've already pulled an ultra rare that's pretty cool xx saber ragogura genetic woman another ultra rare already ultra rare quacky miru gulungulate that's kind of a scary moth that's kind of scary that we pulled two ultras already that's really weird that is a really weird i think you only get one to two per box so i guess it's due because we've already pulled two maybe we got ourselves some sort of error box when we hit all ultras i think that'd be interesting oh we have a dark magician girl so this looks like a uh this looks like more of a um like normal type monster so um that's a cool i'm sure you guys will definitely love that a lot of dark magician girl fans out there all right let's go to the next pack here we go so far some pretty cool orcas hopefully they got some epic ones coming up uh usually they start on the the back is where the good ones are so we've already hit some pretty cool ones ooh a falcon falchion b so yeah we pulled our two ultras right off the top how weird is that that's so weird all right next orca guys what do you guys think we'll be next let me know in the comments what we're gonna have in here i have no idea what orcas are don't peek at the website until you guess all right and then check out the website see if you're right okay another one a dark magician girl but it's like a it's the um which art is this did they ever actually have this art no i think they did it wasn't the ct art because that one is like diagonal like this or something like that i can't remember what this one is i can't remember let me know in the comments guys you guys should know you guys should know this stuff okay all right pretty cool so far two dark magician girls a couple of medicards some good stuff all right fishboard blaster give us a ghost shirt please psychic salt fossil date flameville counter and flameville fire dog fair wind all right all right next orca card we have the dark magician oh my goodness that is wow that is really cool that's super awesome is that an eyeball back there or is it looks like an eyeball but i'm pretty sure it's him using a spell i'm pretty sure that what this is what that is but that does not look like an eyeball looks like an eyeball to me that's really cool though all right next pack of ancient prophecy here we go yeah um our stack of orcas is a little bit shorter because i had to skip a few because they are not appropriate for the video so you guys can find those on the website but i'm not going to show those okay magic cat fairy wind and spirit burn let's go into the next one let's see oh black blaster soldier on void the beginning is this count is pulling it guys did we just pull it for the first time let me know is this count this white background is interesting it looks like marble it's an interesting change because they didn't have this before i don't think so i kind of like it i think it looks cool this black blaster soldier looks insane though pretty awesome next pack ancient prophecy so far two ultra rares that's all we've pulled no secrets no ghosts no um supers we've had two ultras archfiend zombie skull there we go there's a super rare that's cool we got the tornado i've never seen that card actually not not a thing about advanced draw definitely seen that we have a super rare ancient archfiend not ancient pretty cool and why are these on the screen let's just move these okay next orca card we have tune dark magician girl that's pretty cool check that out i'm surprised that they hadn't done this one yet because they did a ton of tunes very cool i like that here we go let's get the ghost rare ancient fairy dragon we're ghost hunting and we're showing some epic orca cards pretty cool battle teleportation white potent ages quacky mirror speeder advanced draw and pixie next orca card here we go come on baby give us something good ooh tune dark magician of chaos this looks like um i mean i guess they look very similar but the magician of black chaos i feel like it looks a more like him but but it's probably not i don't know what is the actual difference besides one's original one's in effect i don't know if there is a difference so let me know in the comments if there's if you guys actually know the difference do they have different stats i feel like they have the same stats i'm not really sure okay hydra pressure cannon we got a flamville counter that's a mystery to me i've always wondered that arm c hunter and discord okay there we go you're gonna get to join the discord no i see you guys do want to join the discord though that is wait i have one for members so if you want to become a member you guys can join the discord okay mostly the members is for the box breaks though so the discord's kind of like an additional thing there is a discord level but most people do the box breaks okay next one oh tune blue eyes ultimate dragon i mean come on come on that is so sick tune blue eyes ultimate dragon that's really really cool i'm a big fan of that one these are getting even better this is awesome this is getting really crazy ancient prophecy we have to match the epicness of the orcas by pulling a ghost rare here we go flamville counter arm c hunter water hazard pseudo space okay we got a mistral silver shield all right next one we've got a lot left still tune you bell okay that's not what i was expecting tune you bell that is that's kind of creepy because you bell is creepy to start with so that makes it very weird i like that that's cool though here we go ghost rare please come on baby give us that ghost give us that ghosty we got a water hazard we got the ragamoo brain research lab battle teleportation and a psychic emperor all right all right that's cool it's cool it's cool nothing in there yet but that's okay we're about to pull an epic orca card tune really i should start guessing what i think it's going to be next so we have to relinquish all right really awesome man these just like these are very well done so cross arts is doing a good job he's done a ton of them i don't know if that's his name cross arts or if that's like a i said this last time i still don't know so uh maybe somebody let me know if you know okay pretty cool though relinquish i like that one all right xx saber ragamoo brain research lab battle teleportation divine dragon aqua bizarre and the full helm night oh that's cool that's comes as a rare in here and pixie ring okay i'm going to guess this time what do i think it was thousand i mean it was a tune relinquish thing is to be two thousand eyes okay now i think i can guess the rest of him on tune lord of striking thunder not tune him on its come on tune lord of striking thunder dude looks completely wacky i like that that's really cool that is really cool all right next pack ancient prophecy give us something amazing please here we go ghost rare let's do this armored axon kicker that's in here i didn't know that sort of sparkles and core reinforcement pixie ring and sunny pixie yep i definitely have that sunny pixie i'm on my dual links x for a while okay here we go okay so i'm on so it's gonna be uriah or raviol i'm guessing uriah oh i got it or urea urea uriah i actually usually call it urea tune lord of searing flames but both of them sound wrong is that is that just weird both pronunciations sound wrong to me am i am i missing the right one or am am i just crazy what is it that looks really cool though definitely wacky but that's a tune so that's how it's supposed to be last pack on the right side ghost rare can we do it what what is on the back of this oh that's weird very strange aren't armored axon kicker we got a battle of the elements sort of sparkles turbo cannon we got a synchro turbo cannon here we go i have never seen that card in my life it's a zero zero once fearing you can destroy one face of monster field inflict damage equal to half its attack that doesn't seem that bad for like a burn some sort of burn deck that is one on the field not even the opponents that seems like actually a really good card let me know is that a decent card i don't know all right guys next orca is gonna be the raveo tune lord of phantasms that's really cool 40 000 4000 4000 pretty cool gotta love those tunes that's pretty awesome big fan they got the god cards now and they got the sacred beast in tune which is really really cool so what am i going to guess next have they done exodia yet it's gotta be an exodia right i don't remember exodia minefield drill cool another full night it seems decent and infernity beast we've got a super rare minefield a driller so far no ulty and no secret hopefully we'll get at least a secret if we don't get the ghost okay i'm guessing exodia this time i should have guessed that armatile the tune phantom obviously the mixture of the sacred beast that's pretty cool definitely can tell it's a mixture on that one for sure all right we only have seven more orcas so i'm gonna go through a couple of packs in a row so we don't you know run out here we go so far we've pulled a lot of foils but we have not pulled anything huge i'm pulling ulty as i was saying we have pulled an ulty okay blackling value the emblem of honor the first pack had this guy an ultra rare and now we have him in ultimate rare that's super cool i like that card i just think it looks cool it's very simple and i like the ulty on it looks really cool ultimate rear pull i don't think it's worth too much but definitely like that one all right next pack so i think my i've heard that ghost rare in secret like would replace the secret rare not the ulty i think but i don't really know if it does anyway it might not replace anything so i think we still have a chance for ghost rare but i'm not really sure i haven't really seen booster box openings of this era where they pulled a ghost very often because it's usually an unlimited box or something so it's just like a lot of people don't open them flamethrower counter sharp cruiser sort of sparkles and solidarity okay blackwing feign the steel chain blackwing feign the steel chain is that like rhyme or something i feel like it does i feel like that's a rhyme right there all right yeah speaking of rhyme style and just getting yeah hide your pressure can and cyborg doctor we get the falchion b i think or whatever that is i don't think that's a b i think that's uh isn't that like a a german letter or something isn't it i'm pretty sure it is yeah let me know a german fan so you guys can let me know because my german is not the best it's actually probably the worst it's probably as bad as it gets turbo rocket okay and scary moth all right let's go to another orca here we go what's next okay now we're going with we said exodia we can't say that again we gotta say something else how about a tune pecanium moth no that's not it that's ecclesia the virtuous that's definitely not a pecanium moth we're looking for pecanium moth that's cool too i guess cool too i guess pecanium moth look i'm saying it now orca shop you need to tune pecanium moth and you need to tune chicolates just saying that's our next guess chicolates fossil dig arm c under you don't be crazy to be if it was actually in there it's like the next one we flip over as a chicolates okay orders are regular didn't have to be tuned ip mascarena that's not a chicolates so cool and not a chicolates just saying we need a chicolates out here last what are we on okay let's get these out four packs left and we have okay we'll just finish with however many we have left at the end four packs remaining from ancient prophecy let's get a ghost rare we've got an arm c hunter psychic soul shark cruiser i won with the sword i can't grab these fortune lady fight wait i guess this isn't the good one i guess is not the expensive one but i'll put it aside anyway all right next one i guess chicolates last go-to cake oh another wait didn't they already do cipher did they not do the regular gods oh that is awesome that is awesome looking i'm a big fan of that that looks crazy good wow that's awesome so i'm guessing that we're gonna get the other two god cards we have three cards left so one is still a mystery if those other two are the god cards but they have sent us only two out of three before so maybe they'll have an inch of crimson eight we got the saber slash that's pretty good lady light are these the bad ones i can't remember because there's something like six i think it's fortune lady dark that's expensive saber slash i know is like worth a couple bucks i think okay next one gotta be the wing dragon raw oh it's obelisk dang it but he looks amazing oh my goodness this looks so good that's awesome okay so next one's gonna be wing dragon raw then it's gotta be the exodia right it's gotta be or could it be blue eyes i'm not sure it could be either of them to be honest here we go ancient crimson ape iron core luster we have the battle teleportation hydra pressure canon and jester lord okay okay so we're still hoping for a secret rare out of there all right wing dragon raw that wait didn't we already see this guy where do we see that we saw that earlier on something we saw that wing dragon raw i don't know i'm so confused but it looks really really cool it wasn't a tune actually just the regular oh here it is on the sleeves i knew we saw it somewhere that is really cool okay so the sleeves are wing dragon raw sleeves finally we have one more pack and one more orca what's it gonna be here we go can we get the ghost rare iron core luster battle teleportation or a secret rare would be great hydra pressure canon oh neither kuri bond cool card now i wonder if that's worth anything now that the new karibo support i'm excited about that no secret and no ghost that's a bomber but that's okay all right we had a sensor out the last one unfortunately sorry guys for the disappointment but check out orca shot shop calm down below and then you guys can see all the ones they have available so hope you guys enjoyed this video ancient prophecy opening we had orcas we had a ghost from the past this is a pretty fun opening hope you guys enjoyed it don't forget to claim your free to wing dragon overall all you have to do is pay shipping in the description as well and i'll see you guys later peace


Okay, welcome back everyone. This is theCUBE. We're here live in Silicon Valley. The OpenStack Enterprise Forum. O-E Forum is a hashtag. I'm John Furrier, the founder of Silicon Am. I'm joining my co-host Dave Vellante, co-founder of wikibon.org. And we are here, breaking down all the action going on inside the, under the hood for OpenStack. And that's what we're here all about. Our next guest, Dave Wright, founder and CEO of SolidFire, hosting this great event. Welcome back to theCUBE. Thank you, John. So who, hey, the Enterprise is really hot. No. For OpenStack. It is. I mean, the interest level is, it's through the roof at this point. And there's a lot of tire kicking, but for a, I think a lot of good reason. And I think this year is the year that we're going to see a lot of adoption as well. And as people, through events like this, kind of start to understand what OpenStack is, where it fits, and what it's good for, you know, that we're going to start to see that. So I remember when I first met you guys, you guys were to start up, get your funding. I think you were in stealth mode still. And I remember the conversation we had, and you said, hey, you know what? We are very focused, and taking what we've learned, kind of reminds me of the Apple Homebrew Clubs in celebration of the Apple 30th birthdays, that you built a cloud, you know what you wanted. You guys were focused on the cloud service providers from day one. Has that changed at all? You seem to be right there. You really haven't really wavered in my opinion. I haven't seen much movement on that. Are you still on the same track? I mean, right now this conversation is bursting out. You guys are putting on an amazing show with great traction. So is that the same? Well, you know, really at the end of the day, we built a product to help people scale storage in large-scale infrastructures. And public cloud was really the first manifestation where that was really happening at a lot of places at large scale. And we've helped a lot of service providers deliver high-performance storage services in their cloud environments. But particularly in the last year, we've seen this growing interest from enterprises who've said, look, I am beginning to act like a service provider internally. I'm building scalable infrastructure. I want to move into that internal service provider model. How can you help me bring that internally? And that's really what we've been trying to help customers on the enterprise side do. And in some cases that's on VMware because that's what they're familiar with. But more and more, we're hearing the question asked about OpenStack and how does that fit? Your service provider customers are using it. How can I use it? And how can SolidFire make that transition happen? I think you guys are in a good spot position-wise. Obviously, hyperscales bleeding into the enterprise is seeing that aggressively. People are looking at OpenStack for flexibility, agile, looking under the hood, having that open source. So that's cool, great stuff. I want to ask you a specific question around some of the things we heard at the Open Compute Summit yesterday and then this morning we were there for Mark Andreessen's keynote.  He said, I'm looking at all these deals and Dave and I kind of were laughing at each other because we've been in the storage business, following the storage for many, many years when it was not sexy, then sexy. Now it's apparently really sexy. Mark Andreessen said he thinks structurally storage is going to be massively disrupted even more than people think even now. So I want to get your take on that comment because you're been close to it. You've looked at different approaches, you've done some good commenting on some other companies announcing certain approaches. What does he mean by that? In your opinion, what are the big disruption areas around storage vis-a-vis all the macro trends of cloud and mobile social? So I would totally agree that storage is ripe for disruption. It's actually in the storage space, there's a couple of trends converging to make that happen. Cloud and large scale infrastructure is one of them. Flash is another one of those things, right? It is dramatically disrupting the architectures around storage and creating new opportunities for new approaches to leverage the dramatic advantages that Flash has over spinning disk. And so there is a market that's ripe for disruption and you can draw definitely parallels to some of the things that are happening on the compute side and networking side because there is this movement to remove the lock-in associated with storage as a single vendor solution and an entire stack of software hardware, top to bottom, that ties an enterprise into a specific solution. And this move to, you know what, I want a converged infrastructure layer, a software layer to manage my infrastructure, my pools of compute networking storage and then I want to plug the right solutions in underneath and I want the flexibility to plug in the right solutions for my needs and my infrastructure. And that is disrupting storage and particularly because it has been such a proprietary vertically integrated vendor specific technology where there was an incredible amount of lock-in and things like OpenStack are removing these layers and layers of lock-in that vendors have built around their tool set over time and creating opportunities for customers to plug in the right solution. What are you guys doing right now? Talk about your disruption because you guys have been on the straight and narrow for a while on the cloud storage. Is it large-scale only? You guys playing in the flash area? Can you just share with the folks your disruption point right now and where you're innovating? So, SolidFire delivers a scale-out all-flash storage system designed for larger-scale infrastructure. So anything kind of 50 terabytes and up, but we can scale up to three and a half petabytes in a single storage system. And really where we're kind of adding disruption is giving the scale that you historically don't only be able to get with disk-based systems on a platform that is all-flash that has 10 to 20 times the performance of a disk-based system, but is also very cost-competitive with a disk-based system on a capital-cost basis while being significantly less expensive operationally. And that's really just the start, right? That's the, I bought a storage system and it's fast and it's inexpensive and it works great. We're really then taking it to the next level with integration into technologies like OpenStack, but also traditional management infrastructure like VMware with the ability to deliver quality of service around storage performance to thousands of applications at the same time. And that is really the differentiator and that's really the enabling technology here that's making people comfortable to say, you know what, I used to have three different storage systems for all of my different performance needs and my really critical applications, I wouldn't put on a storage system with anything else because they'd cause problems and I'd have noisy neighbors, I have all these problems. The ability of our quality of service technology to guarantee performance to a large number of applications in a shared kind of multi-application, multi-tenant environment is kind of breaking down all of these barriers that have been built up over the years in the storage world. I want to go back a little bit and talk a little bit about the anatomy of how you came into OpenStack. So we first met in May of 2011.  And then at VMworld 2011, you laid out the vision of targeting cloud service providers and this whole notion of quality of service and how cloud service providers were going to be able to take advantage of that and offer new services and so forth. And then in the fall of 2011, at the OpenStack conference in Boston, I met some of your guys and coming out of that conference, they said, you said, because you're running the show we're going after the white space which is block storage and OpenStack. This OpenStack at the time was this little grassroots movement. So that took some balls to do that and you basically made the decision back then. It seems to be obviously the right one but what led you to that? What gave you confidence then that that was the right thing to do? Because the other thing I'll add is you guys, I don't have the numbers in front of me but I've seen them, you make a huge contribution to OpenStack and you're right up there with HPE and IBM in terms of the code that you contribute. So what led you to that back then? You know, obviously we are deep seated believers in the power of cloud computing and where the infrastructure is going into these cloud and shared orchestration, multi-tenant models and in both the public as well as the private cloud and really what we saw when we started the company is there was a need for a new platform out there to help enterprises as well as service providers to build out these cloud offerings because everybody is not on Amazon, right? Every company and every service provider is not on Amazon, it's not on Google. They don't have a thousand engineers to go out and build their infrastructure automation platform and it wasn't clear early on whether that was going to be a bunch of siloed proprietary models or whether an open source model was going to emerge and when I saw OpenStack even early on start to emerge and offer the promise of a vendor neutral open source, open platform for cloud orchestration and management it was clear that even though it was very early there was the kernel of a great opportunity and it was an opportunity I wanted to personally see successful and as solid fires a company wanted to be successful as well and so we very early on started contributing to that effort and particularly around the storage side which is obviously where our expertise was to add capabilities to that platform to mature it very quickly to where we did feel it was production grade and we've seen that now in service provider environments as well as enterprises that has reached that level of production grade on the compute side, on the storage side, on the networking side. So you guys drove the initial sender development I think I'm stating that correctly. We did, we saw the need, originally block storage was just a small component inside. It was Swift, it was Object, Object, Cloud, Cloud and you guys came and said, no, we need, and that's fine but there was clearly a need and you look at what people were running on Amazon and the use cases they had there was clearly a need for a robust block storage performance oriented storage solution for OpenStack and that only could happen if you pulled it out and put a lot of resources into it. Okay, so now I want to, now unpack I got this, I got sender, right, I got that standard now but what about underneath? I mean, I can run, if I'm running sender on, you know, company ABC's array versus solid fires array what's the difference? Yeah, and you know that's an important part of how we developed and contributed. We obviously could have contributed a bunch of stuff that only fit solid fire and was only benefits solid fire but we designed in such a way that it had a plug-in model and that meant that any vendor on an open platform could plug in their solution into it and then you're able to compete on the differentiation of the actual product, right, because any product can plug into it and then you can actually bring to the table what you have that's unique and in solid fires case it was the scale out capabilities, the ability to start with a small footprint and linearly scale capacity and performance. It was the quality of service ability which we've extended all the way into the open stack layer and the open stack APIs so that you can dial in specific guaranteed levels of performance for every virtual machine provision through open stack on top of solid fire and it was the richness of the APIs and the integration points that we provided. Sender is a very large project, there's a lot of ways to integrate it, there's a lot of capabilities that provides and not every vendor supports all of those capabilities. Solid fire is very comprehensive in the set of functionality that we support in open stack. We've got one of the deepest integrations available today and that's enabled by the automation and API capabilities that are very unique to the solid fire system. Yeah, now when you talk about quality service, you're talking about both ceiling and floor. Are you, do you believe you're unique in that capability to deal with the floor piece? I mean, a lot of people can do max. Sure. Are you the only one that can do the min? I mean, maybe, I don't know, maybe kind of an oracle can do it or not but there aren't a lot of examples. Yeah, and that's what's really unique about what we call the guaranteed quality of service piece of technology and solid fire, which is the ability to dedicate an amount of performance to an application and guarantee not just a rate limit but actually a minimum level of performance that would be enforced regardless of what else is going on in the system, including failure conditions. And that's the thing that people have struggled with in multi-tenant environments is how do I give these applications that are sharing a shared set of storage infrastructure a consistent level of performance day in, day out regardless of what else is going on in the system. And historically, the only way to do that is to physically isolate them. And that model just doesn't work at cloud scale. You wrote a great piece over a year ago, it was November 2012, setting the record straight on software defined storage. I go back to it all the time because you basically challenged the industry, can you provision capacity and performance, et cetera, et cetera. Can you make a single API call? All those things you talked about in that piece, can you do them today? Yeah. Okay, you can. Yeah, absolutely can. We can do them back then. And the point of that was the conversation around software defined storage, software defined data center. You know, it's obviously very kind of confusing. A lot of vendors are trying to twist that from their perspective.  That is the software defined data center. That is software defined networking, software defined storage. It's always going to have hardware, right? That's really not a question. It's really a question of, how do you orchestrate and manage that? Is it something that you've got a siloed stack of proprietary management that you've got to go through? Or do you have a standardized open set of APIs that any tool can plug into and use to control that infrastructure? And again, that's where OpenStack provides this fantastic industry standard vendor neutral layer to plug into. John, I know we got to go, but got to get the company update from Dave. Where we're at, you know. So obviously, successful startup. It's a couple of rounds. Where are you guys at right now with your progress? You know, so SolidFire is doing great right now. We've been around for about four years. We have raised a couple of rounds of funding, $68 million in total. We had Samsung come on on as an investor last year. We've had tremendous success in the service provider space, literally dozens of service writers around the world are running SolidFire in production in both OpenStack as well as other technology based public clouds. But we also see a large number of enterprise customers that are coming to SolidFire to solve their large scale storage challenges as well. And we kind of position SolidFire as the all flash array for the next generation data center. Because that's really what we're trying to do is not solve just a point problem with performance, but provide a platform to build that next generation service provider or enterprise data center on. And we're doing that at, you know, a number of customers today. Thanks. Dave Wright, CEO and founder of SolidFire here inside theCUBE. Our exclusive coverage of the OpenStack breaking out in the business. Go to crowdchat.net. We've opened up our beta preview for everyone. Crowdchat.net slash OE forum or OpenStack Enterprise OE forums to hashtag. It's a public timeline for the community. We're going to leave it open for a long time. Go in there, comment. It works for LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter. It's like a tweet chat for all the networks. Use the hashtag OE forum. That's OpenStack Enterprise Forum. Share your thoughts, share your concerns. We'll be watching. This is theCUBE. 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Every time we talk about non-OECD donors, everyone, whether it's development practitioners or whether it's folks on Capitol Hill, they want to know what are the Chinese doing. And so since we couldn't get the data through official public sources, we try to second-best approach, which is a media-based data collection. So we look at about 30,000 different media sources in multiple languages to try to identify and then characterize a variety of different kinds of Chinese development finance flows, both those that are from the government, both those that are sort of quasi-governmental, quasi-private, and then private flows. We're the most confident in the data that is from the government. And so while we are certain that we have errors in the data set, we use the systematic replicable method so that other people could come by who knew more about Africa or Chinese aid, who could come by and look at the individual project rows to correct the record. So in the data set, there is a framework for crowd sourcing, there's a framework for journalists or beneficiaries to engage with the data and provide additional sources or correct the record where we've gotten it wrong. So how much help have you got? We were shocked actually. We built the crowd sourcing platform on a very small budget and we thought very few people would be very motivated to provide information. And just in the last two weeks, we've been, I would say, overwhelmed with responses. And some people use the public online crowd sourcing function, but some people just email us separately and say, hey, I don't want my identity to be known, but you should look more closely at project number 47, look for these additional data sources. I think you all think that project is complete, it's not, etc. So we've got, we've been a little overwhelmed. We weren't prepared for the amount of feedback that we've gotten so far. So what is the today's truth about Chinese aid? You know, a lot of the things that people were saying about Chinese aid without access to data are correct. People were characterizing Chinese official development finance as financing the hardware of development. So it's not financing for social safety nets. It's not financing for education. It's not financing for the environment, which is where Western aid has tended to move. Instead, it finances the hardware development. It finances infrastructure. It finances extractive industries, energy, a lot of big ticket items that developing countries in Africa, those are their priorities. And so while the financing modalities vary dramatically, some of this comes from grants, some of them from subsidized loans, and some of it commercial loans. The types of things that are being funded are consistent we fund with the conventional wisdom. The part that surprised us, the sort of part that we didn't expect to see was lots of folks who have commented on Chinese activities in Africa argue that Chinese aid is rogue aid, that Chinese aid is more likely to go to countries that are human rights violators. It's more likely to go to countries that are non-democratic. It's more likely to go to countries that sort of engage in civil conflict against their own citizens. And to be honest, we did not find this. This was one of the hypotheses that we wanted to test. So we gathered other data. We use sort of a variety of different modeling techniques. And mostly, I mean there are some exceptions, but mostly Chinese aid is not that far out of the mainstream in terms of the countries that receive it. The Chinese are looking to, usually they're looking to make money, or they're looking to support governments that support them diplomatically. So you might argue not so different than the things that the United States uses its aid for. Any reactions from China? That was the biggest surprise to us. So I have to be honest, we did reach out to the Chinese government before, well, three and four years before. And we asked them for help. I argued, wouldn't it be useful to the Chinese government if everyone in the world knew how generous the Chinese government was being in Africa? And I was told, everyone who needs to know how generous we are already knows. So we haven't gotten any help from them, and we thought they might be quite hostile to this effort. But the media coverage in Chinese newspapers, both privately held and government owned newspapers, has been quite positive. So we were actually nervous that our infrastructure would be endangered, that they would complain to the university. And we have not gotten any official response, but the unofficial responses have been very positive. The number of people that visit the website, you can see where they're coming from. And I would say the majority, not the majority, the plurality are coming from the United States. But the second largest country, the second largest number of internet hits, comes from China. So Chinese people are reading about what their government is doing, based on this sort of media-based data collection that we've conducted. So you have a long history of engagement with Chinese. What is your view on Chinese aid to Africa and, for instance, Ghana, where you come from? Well, I must say that it's kind of a maze-failing. One, I've enjoyed the Chinese aid. I did my first degree in China between 1984 and 1989. Besides, there are a number of students who have been to China as part of aid to Ghana. Today in Ghana, I would say that most of us trees have been taken over by Chinese. One, it's like, you know, spreading out to Africa. Competition with Europe, I must say. They find a lot of resources in Africa. Ghana, for instance, what I'll find, just recently, Chinese have agreed to grant Ghana three billion cities in a loan. For that matter, I see that to be on the positive side when it comes to aid. But other areas that today is lingering on in Ghana is the way that the inflate have actually resorted to illegal mining, depleting our water resources, polluting our water resources, just recently a number of them have been arrested. I think that area is something that Ghana needs to dialogue with the Chinese government and we see to it that it is actually linked in the back.


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Thank you so much, Ms. Sangh, for joining us.  I want to start with that one question that when you look back at the journey and how TV has evolved over a period of time, what changes do you see in the biggest shifts in the newsroom that have occurred over, you know, maybe a couple of decades? So, I mean, that's a long journey. So I think what has changed in television newsrooms, I think the most important change has been that journalism is no longer limited to one medium. So I think, in fact, when we talk about television news, I think we realize now that news cannot be put into the boundary of the screen you're watching it on. And I think the best news stories are the ones that transcend that. So, for instance, the screen or the TV, in a sense, can be a front page of a newspaper. It can be the home page of a website. And it can be your mobile screen. And it could be a television screen, but is it cable or smart TV? So I think those are the different challenges. But I think what remains essential is the core, which is what's the headline. You'll find that any good editor, you'll come and give them a brief for a story and it can ramble into 10 minutes.  And I think that's really the point of it, that what is the one piece of information you're giving the viewer, the reader, the online, whatever netizen that they don't know already. And I think if your story doesn't have that, you need to go back and try again. So I think that's really different. But I think the various things you have to compete with being a video journalist, being a print journalist, being a television journalist is very, can be daunting for newcomers. But I think if they realize that basically it's about the basic, how good your story is, that would help. And that's the biggest change you're seeing in newsrooms around you now. That no newsroom is limiting itself anymore to being just television or just print or just digital, it's integrating. So you'll hear integration and convergence as the big buzzword now for the next years ahead. You know, one other thing that we often hear about television is that television is toxic, there is no news. It's just an amplification medium. How do you respond? I mean, how would you respond when people label television as these? I think the biggest enemy of television news has been television itself. So I think I do have to say that I would agree with many people who feel that there is some element of television has become toxic. It began with what was quite new to Indian television about, say, 15 years ago, the talk format. And when it began, it was exciting. It seemed to be a situation. And at NDTV, we were lucky that we had a situation where even the prime minister had joined to debate once on the big fight. We had Mr. Arun Jaitley and Mr. Kapil Sibal who often would agree to come and debate with each other on any of our shows. So those were times when you had people of political gravitas and intellect which would have very strong opinions of their own but would also have the dignity and the intellect. I think, again, this boils down to the intellect of listening to another person's point of view, of accepting that this person who is debating with me is not necessarily someone who is my enemy. But I think after talk TV evolved or we had an outbreak of channels and very different politics at some point coming in as well, that it became about a political enmity and that I actually won't confine that to politics. It became about who scores the most points. My point of view is better than your point of view and it's who can shout louder. And once that fueled into what I would really say is toxic is a toxic TRP system, it just became worse and it spiraled out of control. So I think that is a problem television news has faced. It's a problem television news has to fix. I think there is some realization of that happening now and I hope there will be a change and the change will come really from the people who are watching when they say that we feel this is not what we want to watch on our screens. I'll ask you two more questions. I want to throw this forum open. What is your view on ratings? Well, as you know that NDTV's exited ratings, I mean, it's not necessarily a permanent decision but we do feel that the ratings have limited journalism and I do think that this I've said earlier as well. I think journalism because I mean, again, I don't limit to television. I think journalism is something which is at the end of the day for public interest and you cannot have public interest being rated in as if it's a Bollywood film at a box office. At the end of the day, it's not only about what you feel that people want to know but what they should know. So I think, and that again is where I think the roles of editors plays a very important role in a newsroom or in any newspaper or any online site because eventually when you, why would you watch say NDTV or India Today or Times Now was another channel? You're watching it for an editorial point of view. And I think that is something which is extremely critical. I think that's what separates one TV channel from the other. I think that is what had for NDTV was a major differentiator. So I think the TRPs kind of flattened that out. It became all about entertainment and it became as is the toxicity, I think was linked to TRPs in many ways. But I think that hopefully will change. Again, I feel in TRPs, it cannot be a monopoly system. You cannot have a ratings agency which is just one for such a, it's a multi-crow industry. So you need to have more ratings agencies and you need to have much, much more transparency. I mean, the same standards we demand from politicians, from government is the standards we should demand from agencies which say that they determine what India watches. I mean, as I think Sukumar, at the point there's no one India and no one agency can determine what India watches. Absolutely. My final question, recently we saw this banning, a by-courting of 14 anchors and there was a lot of backlash on that. Do you think that is, there could be a better way of dealing with a non-cooperative media or I mean, there's a better way of doing this than by-courting anchors? No, of course. I mean, firstly, why should media be cooperative? In the sense, no, no. Not in that sense. I mean, they could have done it in a different way, yes. I absolutely am against boycotts in any form. I said, I do feel at the end of the day that we do have courts, you do have other ways to address if you feel an anchor is crossing a line. I mean, I don't support boycotts in any form of any anchors. Okay, let's open this to some questions, okay. Those who have not asked questions here, please. Yes, please. Good morning. I will also mention, TV is being toxic. Do you think digital media will replace one day TV media? And second question is, you talk about convergence, TV media, digital media. Is it because the TV is being taken as toxic elements to the TV media want to attract digital media audience? Or they are, I mean to say, are they forcefully doing it? Or they want to explore in that section also? See, again, when we say TV, I don't want to generalize. I don't think all TV is toxic. I'm part of a television, I'm very proud of it. But I do think that there were very toxic elements which emerged which we need to fix. And we need to fix it urgently before viewers lose faith in the medium. Television and, I mean, toxicity sadly can transcend any medium. So you can have digital media which is toxic. What worries me about digital is the fact that I think we're creating many echo chambers. People will watch only the anchor they like or the view they agree with. And I think that's really, really dangerous for any democracy and especially there's only young people for young people. Because this is the time when you need to explore, when you need to explore different ideologies where you need to look differentially in fact and fiction. Really, that has to be the key thing. Now if you're listening only news can't be a playlist. So it can't be just what you'd like to hear. And I think that that's one of the issues that with YouTube that we see many, many journalists who have extremely loyal fan following. I mean, it's almost like political fan followings and they will follow them. And if anything is said by that journalist, it is truth whether it's X or Y. There's no challenging. You have to have the same challenging perspective whoever you're watching. It can be somebody who's very senior. It can be somebody who's very junior. So I don't like that thing of digital where it's become about that you don't need editors, you don't need two points of view, you don't need three points of view, you need only my point of view. I think that is something which is in digital is not great. In fact, young people should use digital to listen to a diversity of views, especially views you don't like because that makes you think. I have one further question. Ma'am, it is said that at least in digital media there is clear cut he's from left, he's from right. But in frontline media or you can say in TV media, there is an envelope. That envelope is covering that he's not from any side but they are biased, it is a type of allegation. Do you don't think that this differentiate between the digital media and the TV media? I don't think so. I don't think that you have to declare allegiance. Why does it have to see every person in this room will have a personal bias? They will vote for someone or the other. The point is that are those biases reflected in the professional work? So I think that's, I mean, it can be anybody, it could be a journalist of course, but it can be somebody who's a doctor, it can be somebody who's a policeman, it can be someone, do those biases reflect the professional life? Can the viewers see the bias? That's the problem. If the viewer feels that this person is biased because of his personal views or personal affiliation, that is an issue. But hopefully viewers are smart enough to know and if they feel and we've seen that also that if there is some journalist who's seen as bias, there is a backlash. So I don't think that will change on digital or television or that in digital it's all right if the person declares allegiance. The point is journalists should not have political allegiances in their professional lives. Personal allegiances, of course, many journalists have it. I'm added to a politician. So that is a separate issue, but the point is does their work reflect that? Thank you ma'am. Okay. Okay. Anand, our colleague from Samacha for media, yes. Hello ma'am. Hello. Anand Parashar from Samacha for media. Ma'am, the challenges that are currently facing TV are from social media and digital platforms. One thing that comes to mind and it seems like the news channel is not that serious because it's fake news. Because in social media, things are spread very quickly. And in TV, there are many big programs, there are many big interviews, their small clips are viral. And until there is a clarification, it is reached to millions of people. So in this direction, how is NDTV working? And in the coming days, how are we going to face these challenges? In editorial, how do we face these things? That at least not with NDTV programs? No, that's a good point. Actually, most of the NDTVs are fake surveys that come from opinion polls. That's really because of the NDTV credibility in that area. So usually, the focus so far has been on fake news in the newsroom. So you know how to make sure, because especially as you know that often viral videos come. So straight away, the newsroom wants to put it on air that this is an earthquake somewhere or this has happened here. But we have seen in some situations, especially in 10 situations like riot situations or communal situations, putting fake videos on air has very, very real consequences. So our real focus has been on how to fix fake videos, fix meaning make sure that they don't get on air. That has been our big worry. We haven't really looked at whether NDTV clips are being misused on digital media. As soon as we get to know of it, of course, we issue statement, legal rights, but it hasn't been a major focus yet because the big worry has been how to stop fake videos from going on air. Okay, yes, please. We have 10 minutes. So yes, we are going to go. Ma'am, one more question for you. Anandji, sorry, offline. Good morning, ma'am. So my question is that TV media is heavily burdened by advertisements. So whenever we see a channel reporting something, most of the screen is covered with advertisements. So the anchor is at the top of the corner. He is not very much visible and everything is covered with advertisements. So how do you perceive that? I mean, what are your point of views? I mean, that is an economic reality. I think Sukumar will agree with me on that. We all need ads to pay salaries. We need ads to have budgets, news budgets. We need ads for various reasons. So we all tried to be creative about it, so it doesn't actually interfere with the content, but I agree that in some places, it sometimes covers a huge portion of the screen, but it really is something that is an economic model, which until it's fixed, or until we come up with alternative ways. I mean, one way, of course, is subscription, but most people are used or prefer to see their news free. So as long as that is happening, the only model of revenue is actually through advertisements, so there's not much choice left there. And you also see sometimes so many panelists and speaker at a different forum said, this is the Ravan School of Journalism. Anyway. No, the Ravan School is one of the many heads. Many heads, yeah, that's something. Sir, sir, wait a minute. I'll come to you. I'll come to you. Hello, ma'am. This is Pankaj Sharma from Samarcha for Media. A small question, ma'am, whether it's an artificial anchor or it's an anchor in the newsroom, their use is increasing. Sorry, I couldn't hear you. AI anchors that are currently used in newsrooms. So what do you see as an anchor in the form of a challenge or an anchor in the form of an anchor? What do you mean by that? No, I think it's interesting, but I don't think an AI anchor can ever replace a real anchor, but I think it's interesting. It's an interesting model. It's an interesting gimmick for now. Let's see how it unfolds. AI, of course, can be used in newsrooms, but it has to be used in newsrooms. But I think it needs a human intelligence as well for the editorial decisions. So, I mean, of course, I think I'm sure it can help in maybe compiling lists and news lists and things like that. But I don't think AI anchors is something we really need. Finally, we've made it for entertainment. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, Sonia. I'm a student of Dheeraj. I'm a student of IMC, New Delhi. My name is Dheeraj Kumar. This is a headline from WIRE. I'm it's a Danish takeover. Senior journalist Ravi Kumar resends from NDTV. So, my question is, how far change in ownership of media channels affects the content of news channel? I don't know if I should answer that or you should answer that. All right, let's go to the next one. I just say for any brand, of course, the biggest bonus is credibility. And I'm sure that any management will be looking very carefully at that aspect. But ultimately, the decision of the judge of credibility is not the person in the newsroom, but all of you. Yes, ma'am. See, I think it can be used almost. It will be used much more in a conveyor belt way. So, I think there will be that element of it, of course, that it is efficient. There's a speed. So, it will be incorporated into newsroom operations. But I still believe, and maybe I'm old fashioned, that in journalism, it is the individual which makes the difference still. I mean, all of you will have individual journalists, individual bylines, individual stories, which is something which is really premium. And I think in a world where AI can replace a lot of things, I think individuality is something which hopefully isn't, I know it's on its way that AI can even mimic individual characteristics, but the original will still be better. So, it will be a challenge. It will be a challenge, especially for young people coming in. But I think that's where it's extremely important for passion, commitment, dedication, the willingness to go the extra mile for young people which will prove crucial now. Hello. Ma'am. You asked. Yes, yes. So, we are waiting for our honorable governor. He'll be here in next 10, 16 minutes as said. So, we can stretch it. Okay. Hello ma'am. We can get our Sukuma Rappas as well. Yes, sir. We can get other people out. No, no, that will be actually. Sukuma, don't relax. Let's get, please, I was in fact thinking if we could do now an open forum, since we have 15 minutes, I would request you to join us, sir. You had lots of people. Can we get one more chair? Yeah. Yes, please, yeah. I just wanted to say something actually, which I know, Roehler kindly asked you for a keynote, which I didn't have time to do. But one thing I think which we need to look at very seriously in the next years ahead is the democratization of newsrooms. I think we've seen that it's happening in politics. It's happening in society. But I think in media newsrooms, especially English newsrooms, we have failed on that aspect. And I really do feel that this is the time when we need to look self-interest-spec on how we reflect the aspirations of rapidly changing India with its opportunities and challenges and see how we get the voices and the journalists to be much more representative of that India. I think we still find in newsrooms, especially in English TV newsrooms, business newsrooms, that they come mainly from the big cities like Delhi, Mumbai, maybe some from Bangalore. So I think that is the next big challenge that newsrooms need to face to stay relevant. So I think that's what, and I'm very happy with IIMC that I see students coming from all over. So I'd love to see those applications much more, but not only IIMC, because there are many, many students can't get in to such a prestigious institute. So how we broad-based is something which is very important for all of us editors to think about. Okay, sir, I have two questions. One is, is TRP being purchased? First question, second question. I don't know whether you will be able to answer it or not. Because TRP only in the TV news or the electronic media, not on the print media. I've not seen any TRP on the print media. First question, second question, like in the print media, if you see the first page on the political, second miscellaneous, then third-party criminal crime, and then sports pages are there. Similarly, the TV channels, they should have a menu, sports, tourism, like that, that should be the menu. Oh, this tourism, I can see on that. Health, I will see at that time. Sure, so that's a suggestion. You can get that on websites, on television, it's a bit harder. On TRP is being purchased, well, NDTV is not buying, so that's all I'll say. All right, yes. Hello, ma'am, hello, sir. Actually, my question is that, what's the actual need for opinion or exit polls? Like, is it actual news for the general public or just for the likability factor? Just why you want to ask that, does it influence the general public's interest or decisions while voting? No, I mean, the current form in which polling is done in this country, there's very little, there's zero scope of it influencing the outcome of elections. That was your question, right? Do opinion polls, right? And everyone wants to know who's going to win, who's going to lose. I mean, this is not unique to this country. Opinion polling is like, I mean, it's an age-old, established, universal thing that everyone wants to know.  Have you seen the kind of coverage that goes around the US presidential election? I mean, there are websites that spring up with just like do nothing else for an entire year, right? So I think it's legitimate journalism. What I find especially interesting about it is it's become much more sophisticated now. It's become much more broad-based now. There are agencies that are using really high-end mathematical techniques now. And of course, websites, TV channels, I've started using really interesting graphical representations of this. What's not to like? It's good fun. Hello. I see a lot of fans raising with this gentleman here. Okay. I'll come to you, I'll come to you. Okay. Good afternoon. My name is Saksham and I am a student as well. So my question was that like, for example, there's a media house which works in like focus on law. So, and if that media is just focusing on digital platform, so what can that little media do exactly to be successful enough? Because there's a lot of competition going on. Sorry. There's a media platform which focuses only on law. So how does it work? Law. How can that work? Yes. Okay. Yes, exactly. And how will they be? Successful enough because there's a lot of competition. For example, you said How can you stand out? How can... Define success. To be recognized. Because... There are two big entities of the sort that you mentioned in this country. Both are very well recognized. Both are, I mean, live law and bar and bench. How do you define success? You can define success in, ultimately, because all of these are businesses. The only way to define success is profitability. Right? So, and I guess both of them are adequately profitable because they keep hiring people. One of them poached my legal editor two years back, which means, you know, they must be capable of paying fairly decent salaries, right? And the thing is, these are niche media, right? And the only challenge that you have with niche media is your definition of success cannot be... Cannot be disproportionate, right? So even if you were to move outside of law, if you look at startups, for instance, there are these websites like Ken and Morning Contact, which do a lot of interesting work, they'll probably be profitable at a certain level, but they're never going to be as large as, let's say, any TV, right?  So your runway is probably a maximum of $8, $10 million. It's not going to be higher than that. And I'm speaking in terms of revenue. I'm not speaking in terms of anything else. So we just have to do that. I think what's interesting with live law on these other things is that they identified a gap in the market. And I thought that was interesting, that they're looking at something, they say there's a lot of interest in it. Media is not really representing this enough. So I thought that's an interesting space to look at, that if somebody's mad, like, you know, about elections, I know people, Prawnoy Roy, the founder of NDTV was obsessed with elections. So it's always nice to take an obsession and turn it into something which people respect. So I think that is very important. So I think in that sense, I'm not a business journalist, like Sukumar also profits, is always something that has to be drummed into me. But I think they've managed to, you know, fulfill their passion or their commitment. And I think that's really something which is quite laudatory in today's world. But for example, like... Are you working with them or are you applying to them? Because then we can discuss that later. Actually, I'm working under law opinion and I'm the CEO of it. Me and my colleagues have started it just recently this year. That's a law website. Yes, a website. And we do also have the print media, but yeah. So it's like, we've just started, we've just taken out the first edition. Oh, forward to you. Yeah, great. Thank you so much, sir. That's great to do that while you're a student. He has one more question, okay? Yeah. So, sir, earlier you said that TV media has weaknesses and one of the weaknesses are that they are not covering the whole nation, the news covering the whole nation. So why not the other media houses do that to cover the whole news? Because I think that this can be a factor for being success. Yeah, I mean, there are enough people who do that. What I was telling you was that typically TV gets obsessed with the big story, right? So previously when you used to look at any news, you had a wide variety of news, both geographically wide and thematically wide, which has now got significantly restricted. So if you look at big stories that are playing out, they're just like one story that keeps playing on loop. And you know, everything else is either not covered at all or not mentioned. Your question is why are the others not doing it? The reason, and again I mentioned this, the reason why TV doesn't go broad and wide in this country is because of an economic reason, right? I mean, it's just very difficult to have a TV channel that covers every corner of this country using, you know, cameraman and videos and everything else. And then, you know, it's just far too expensive. It's far easier, it's much more economically viable to have the talking head format of journalism. Isn't it? It is cheaper. Well, you know, it falls into that same kind of TRP model because again, if you're, I don't know, TRPs are measured by boxes. Now if your boxes are in certain geographies, so Mrs. Bombay will have many more, or Mumbai will have many more boxes than say a Sam. So then it presumed the logic, then translates, you do more news out of Bombay and less out of a Sam. Now if you're going to follow this logic in a newsroom that you only do news which will get more viewers, it is going to be something which will tilt your editorial balance or your editorial width, breadth of your coverage. So I think that is something again, which there are many, many questions about the current TRP model. And I'm a big dissing that when we look at the BBC model and the UK may not be the ideal one, but I do think we need to enter a phase in India where we look at journalism almost as an essential service and then cannot be kept with all the same pressures and pulls of also being a profitable business. There has to be some kind of a rethink on the revenue models. And I think for television especially, the revenue models currently are very, very faulty. Thank you, thanks. Okay, okay. You have asked already one question. Yes, please. Yeah, okay, Mike. Hello. Actually the revenue models are faulty for everyone at this point in time. Hello? Yes, please go on. I mean it doesn't work for anyone. I can't hear you. Yeah, we can hear you. We can hear you. Go on. Sir, I have two questions, sir. One has been asked. Where are you from? Introduction after you. I am Kamle, sir, from AJ, I am C. Sir, I have two questions with me. One has been asked. The other one has been asked. Sir, I have a question. No, no, okay. You are listening, we are listening. He is working, he is working. No, no. Mike is working here. Sir, the question is, sir, that whenever there is a big event in the country, then the new church is going to be seen. Like in the lockdown, when there is a big new channel, there were very few subscribers on YouTube. There were 19 million or 20 million of people. As soon as the lockdown came, now there are 50-50 million. And whatever happens, there is nothing in the public sector. There is something like Seema Hyder's case. That means it is going on for two months. So in this way, I want to know that we are also going to be reporters at the time. There is more competition. So how are we catering that we can financially support ourselves and be able to handle journalism? Both are very complicated. We are not doing such trivial stories, right? You want to answer it, Sonia? So he is saying, like, we run Seema Hyder story for a couple of months and he is at the verge of getting into journalism. How does he save himself from getting into? NDTV didn't cover the Seema Hyder story very much. I was wondering, oh, that's Seema Hyder story, yeah. Like if you go to any, it is a challenge, of course, in media houses for hiring. But I would say that the big issue is if you get a job in a reputed media house, hopefully you would not be covering stories like Seema Hyder all the time. But I know that's difficult. I think in the first two years, just do everything. Do everything, try everything, work harder than anyone else. That really is what is going to make you stand out. The first two years of your journalism life will set your future. So you just have to, at that time, don't say, this is not me, this is not me. Don't just work hard, work hard. Your work will speak for itself and then take a call after at least two years. But give it two years of commitment of passion and dedication and then take your call. And it's very important to also be innovative and imaginative about this. I mean, there is a gentleman here from my organization who's sitting who anchored a page two story and page two stories in Hindustan Times are these gigantic stories on Seema Hyder. We were one of the first newsrooms to cover it and it was a very sensitive story of what was happening. So there are ways in which you can do it. So I think sometimes what happens is, and I often tell people this story from many, many years ago, I will not name the individuals concerned because both are now very famous. So one was a marketing reporter, the other one was a long-form reporter. They used to sit next to each other in my newsroom and I used to work in Mint. And the marketing person got a press release from Pepsi about a new flavor of chips that had been launched. So she looked at it and put it on the table. And then this guy looked at it and said, do you mind if I follow this up? So she said, Mint doesn't cover product releases. So he said, no, I know, but I just want to look at it. So then he reached out to the company. He asked them, how do you decide which flavor to launch? So they put him in touch with one guy who does research on flavors in India. And he did this fabulous 2000 words story on how companies decide what flavors to use for their products in India. So it's just a question of being, so there are stories all around us. Part of your job as a journalist is to identify what is the story and how to tell it. And you are saying that you can also find something that can be a very good story. There's some noise at the back. Can I request everyone to be quiet? And I think if your questions are seen in a different way, then if Seema Haider wouldn't have been in the news, then today in such a big forum, the discussion of the news is not happening. That's the way of looking at it. And sir has already told us, as Sonia Ji also said that, you have to run away from journalism for two years, right? Sir, you said that, right? It will take you two to four years to see that tough life, right? Well, I'd like to take this opportunity. I just received a question and I'd like to quote it. It seems people are seeing more, are being seen more eager to use social media, digital media and short news apps like InShorts. Where do you think the future of print media is going with all this? Nowhere. I mean, like I said, we are the only, first of all, we don't define ourselves as print media, right?  In 2008, for instance, when I was in Mint, I gave every one of my reporters a high definition, handled video camera to shoot videos and post them on the website. Irrespective of whether there is traction or not. I mean, so we, everyone is pretty much a multimedia journalist now. But I think the advantage that print has at this point in time, like I said, is that we seem to be the only people who are investing in journalism and journalists and reporters. Many other newsrooms are not really investing in research. They're not investing in travel. They're not investing in reporters. Their focus seems to be investing in other things, right? And that gives us a natural advantage. It is an advantage that is rapidly drying up because print business models themselves are under challenge. So the question is, how do you sustain a profitable newsroom with revenues coming down? But so print is not going anywhere. First of all, I wouldn't define it as print, right? Journalism is not going anywhere.  She's a journalist. Just like I'm a journalist. And 10 years from now, we'll probably still be journalists. Do you mean like politicians will ever retire? Oh, God. I just will take a note from what Sukumar says. I think, again, this whole investing in journalists, and I think that's something that I and Sukumar, of course, and are extremely passionate about. And I think that's why this under 40 is something that we spend our Saturday mornings coming and doing. Because it's so fantastic to see young people who really, I think often, you think, as you asked, young people, nobody cares about young journalists. I think they really are the future and the hope of this profession, I think investing. I think NDTV had become, is still an institute where I know that once they've got the NDTV tag that other television channels have grabbed them within a year at much higher salaries. Yet many of them have stayed on, despite that, because they believe in NDTV. And that's really something which makes us all very happy. And I think the Chief Justice said recently, you can be a good lawyer and a good person. I think that applies in journalism as well. You can be a good journalist and a good person. Our responsibility today is to mentor the next generation. I see so many people sitting here, Tessin, Ankit Priyanshi, many people sitting here, who will go on to do many things. But the point is that the ethical core of a good journalist will never change. That's what we hope good editors can give wherever they are. And that's really, I think, what this whole function about today is. And I think now we should let them have a coffee break. No, one last question. One last question. And we are the Chief Justice, Garmin. One last question. So hi, Sonia and Sukumar. A question on citizen journalism. Can you please introduce yourself? Okay, so this is Anurag Kulstrehta here. Hi, Sonia and Sukumar, we've exchanged some emails also. So a question on citizen journalism. And I mean, why is it that we are kind of, there aren't any forums or platforms in terms of some real happenings and events need to be shared by individuals. And I know most of the channels and you guys look at it more as a topic or a subject. So except for one or two recent platforms like in shorts. So what is it that we can do? How is it we are addressing? Because when you try to reach out to channels, it's not easy. And I've tried myself, including certain stories on crime law and police, et cetera. And when people try to raise voices, et cetera, they bring out the reality. Their phones are hacked and whatnot. So what is it that can be done on that? So citizen journalism, and we just had Elon Musk at the US Mexico border doing citizen journalism. But I have to say that what, the only thing that worries me about citizen journalism is the lack of editorial controls and balances. It had become very popular about five to eight years ago when it became this kind of buzzword and citizen journalism. But there were problems raised with how much of it was on individual interest with the fact that there is no editorial oversight on stories like that. What is the source? What is the motive? What is the reason? It became a bit of a problem, which is not to say that this is, there's been absolutely fantastic citizen journalism done. But I think there is still, we haven't managed to work out a kind of system where there is all the alarm bells taken care of. I'm sure it can be worked out, but it's something that I think newsrooms haven't managed yet. So I'm still a little bit wary of it though. Of course, there are many, many cases where stories would not have come to light or huge exclusive not have happened without citizen journalism. So it's not something which I'm against in any way, but I do think that there are some questions which is why many, some newsrooms stay away from it. Sorry, sorry, sorry. That's it. Oh my God. What do we do with these two questions? Okay. All right. Okay. 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I'm a traditionalist, so let us begin with the tradition. My name is Sam Vaknin and I'll be author of Malignancy of Love, Narcissism Revisited, as though you didn't know. Today, I will be discussing attention boards. Attention boards come in both genders. Both women and men can be attention boards, but the literature, scholarly literature indicates the majority of attention boards, women with histrionic and borderline personality disorders, the majority of these people are women. So I'm going to use the feminine gender pronouns throughout this text, but bear in mind, bear in mind, there are men who are attention boards. Everything I say applies to these men as well. Not to make the text cumbersome, I will limit myself to women. Some women, single and married, use male attention to regulate their sense of self-worth. When their self-confidence and self-esteem is at a low ebb, when they feel a lack of self-esteem and self-confidence, these so-called attention boards become flirtatious, seductive. They coctees and they trade sex for even the most inconsequential signs of attention from a man. Could be a chat, could be a compliment, could be small gifts, flowers, a bouquet, or a meal at a restaurant. It's good enough. Even if the attention they get is vulgar and demeaning, even if they are, for example, groped in public or fondled in public, or if they are the targets of lewd, loud, explicit, so-called compliments, these women would still prefer it to being ignored. These women say bad or wrong kind of attention is far better than no attention at all. Male attention serves a few important psychodynamic functions with these women. And remember, it applies to men as well. First of all, the attention that these women get from men reassures the woman of her irresistibility and attractiveness. A woman who is rejected, neglected, abandoned, humiliated, and ignored by her intimate partner, this kind of woman feels compelled to restore her badly eroded self-image. So what she does, she conducts a poll among other men. She offers her body in exchange for an erectile affirmation, a vote of fluids that she is still irresistibly desirable. Another function is reasserting control and power over men via her sex. Such a woman as wages her anxiety, ameliorates her anxiety, reduces it. Because she assumes that men are misogynistic and hostile and aggressive. She's afraid of men. She actually, in the background, hates men. But above all, she's terrified of them. She's afraid of them. So what she does, she tames men with her body and that makes her feel safe and reduces her anxiety. And then, of course, some women are adrenaline junkies. Elicit affairs, cheating, deception, risky and reckless behaviors or situations are all perceived by such a woman as thrilling, breathless adventures which alleviate the tedium of daily life. This kind of woman is compulsively deceptive. She engages in compulsive cheating. She's addicted to it, actually. Many of these women sexualize frustration. They act out. Their impulse control is impaired, we will talk about it a bit later.  It's a form of revenge. And then there's the issue of unsated hunger for intimacy and a semblance of emotion. Such hunger is overpowering.  Such a woman will sometimes provide access to her body in return for even the faint and fake versions of what she creates. And finally, some women break all boundaries in a feast of unbridled promiscuity. And this is a form of masochistic self-punishment, self-annihilation. It's an affirmation of the woman's deeply ingrained introjects. Her inner critic, the voices, the super ego that constantly judge her and criticize her and demean her and humiliate her. So to affirm these voices, to agree with them in order to reduce the inner conflict and the anxiety, to create a kind of truce or ceasefire with these voices, what she does, she becomes a war. She becomes a bad object. She becomes unworthy of anything better than being pumped and dumped by multiple men. This way, she kind of makes peace with her inner tribunal, tribunal, inner court, which tells her mercilessly that she is a worthless bad object prostitute. Call some of these phenomena, I call them mishausen by narcissists. These women sometimes seek interactions and relationships with narcissists in order to be victimized by the narcissist and in this way, secure attention, commiseration, sympathy, and resources from mental health professionals, other victims and survivors online, the community or society, and of course friends and family. Mishausen by narcissists is akin to the two other mishausen syndromes. They are known as fictitious disorders. And all these are observed mostly among women. In the classic mishausen syndrome, the patient feigns physical illnesses or actually hurts herself, damages her body in order to attract the attention and compassion of medical staff. In mishausen by proxy, the patient causes other people, usually her own children, to become gravely ill, for example, by poisoning. And this is in order to become the center of attention, pity, and admiration of doctors, nurses, and spectators. Many self-sired so-called empaths are actually codependent and evils. There is a difference between the compassionate or empathic and between enabling. So when these women seek the attention of men, they usually would gravitate towards narcissists because this achieves a double goal. First of all, it regulates self-esteem and self-confidence as we have discussed. And the second goal is it renders the woman a victim, and therefore worthy of compassion, attention, mercy, pity, and so on and so forth. So it's like a twofer, two for one. And many of these women self-style declare themselves to be empaths, but actually they're not. What they are, they are codependent and evils. And there is a difference between being compassionate and empathic, as I said.  Enabling, on the other hand, means that you aid and abet your significant other.  Compassion is about providing your counterpart with external boundaries, checks and balances, control, and a realistic feedback. Enabling involves fusing and merging with the other, erasing all the boundaries, helping to fend off hurtful reality by becoming delusional jointly. And you see, this is exactly what happens with the tension force. They seek attention from men, but they seek it in a way that enables the men. They become enablers. Together with the men, they create a shared psychosis where the woman is irresistibly desirable. And the men provides her with erzats, fake intimacy, love, and sex. And together they create this bubble this utter fantasy, this moving, which has nothing to do with reality. No wonder most of these so-called relationships end up in heartbreak, shame, and guilt. Most attention whores are impulsive. Impulsive people act first and consider their options later. Impair, deficient, lacking, or absent impulse control serves important psychological needs in the attention board.  Instantly catering to these pressing wishes is the only way to alleviate and ameliorate this inexorably mounting inner volcanic pressure. So the patient feels her needs as something that is kind of magma, kind of lava, that fulfills her and drives her into intense and extreme anxiety, bordering, I would say, on a kind of micro-psychotic episode. And so to alleviate this, to get rid of this anxiety and this increasingly disabling stress, what she does, she acts out, she just acts on it. So if she has a need to have a man in order to affirm her declining self-esteem, that she would act on it. Because as long as she doesn't act on it, she feels less and less and less and less and less comfortable.  She feels she's about to disintegrate. And to a logic set, it's true that way. She is decompensating. Following impulsive acts, cheating, spending, shopping, promising, traveling, being cheating, whatever. Following these impulsive acts, there is an overwhelming sense of guilt and shame. And this is followed by purging and penitent behaviors, like acting extra nice to the cheated spouse, forced vomiting in case of bulimia. Or working hard to make up for the profligacy. And these actions, these penitent actions, acts of penitence, they lead to a restoration of inner peace and homeostasis kind of balance. They are cathartic, the great catharsis, a feeling of having attained a state of clean slate. Like everything now is snow white and pure. You can start a new, it's a new phase, a new stage.  What happened there stays there, at least until the next transgression. And but the feeling of catharsis is an almost religious experience. Impulsivity has another critical function though. The regulation of labile self-esteem, fluctuating self-confidence and one sense of self-worth via the restoration of grandiosity. In this sense, impulsivity is an aspect or symptom of narcissism. The cheating spouse, for example, he affirms his irresistibility. The shopaholic affirms her omnipotence and perfection because he has all the money she needs. The kleptomaniac affirms, confirms her invincibility. Her lack, her cosmic lack, the universe is with her. She's getting away with it. So the forbidden, risky and illicit nature of most impulsive acts and behaviors only adds to this mystical aura of uniqueness. This magical elevation to a godlike status of invincibility feels like a euphoric high and it is therefore addictive. This adrenaline rush, ebb and I mean waning and waxing of adrenaline. This is addictive. All impulsive behaviors are addictive. Recidivism is guaranteed. No agreement, no rule, no vow can prevent these behaviors from recurring. It's almost hopeless. Even in therapy, we find it very difficult to kind of restore control over impulsive behavior. In dialectical behavioral therapy, this is one of the main aspects because borderline, women with borderline personality disorder, lack impulse control. But the success is usually limited and the recurrences and recidivism are very common. Don't lose hope, as these women grow older, most of the signs and symptoms of borderline and histrionic personality disorder recede. Unfortunately, only to be replaced with dysthenia, background, depression. No free meal in mental health, it seems.