I'll get you guys links to the actual stream in a second. I never get that on YouTube. Is there an actual place I'm supposed to copy the link from on the actual like streaming tab? So, um, well, I only do it through Google Hangout. So I'm not sure I'm not sure how this process works. Well, I will, it'll, it'll only take a moment, but, uh, we are indeed live. I'm sure I could be all chatting in in a moment. Uh, literally just talk about anything. Oh, you know what? There were, there were a few things as of the last eFap, but obviously you only mean rags going to be able to comment on this.  That's happened before. Where are you? Oh, it was public. Hmm. Oh, there's somebody. There we go. It's, it's a Saturday. So logically speaking, this should actually be preferable for a lot of people who are just like outrage regularly that we, we do it at like one AM on even American time and stuff. But hey, yeah, but Jesus Christ, it's Saturday morning. Oh, that's true. Me getting up.  Is it Saturday? It's, it is Saturday. Me and Rags at like really bad time because we're just like every day is the same. It's a pitfalls from working from home. Hmm. So, yeah, the last EFAP, a couple of people were like, we said something along the lines of, um, we were criticizing him for saying there was a choice when that happens a lot in superhero movies and that we referenced the Dark Knight and someone was like, the Dark Knight doesn't have any choices that are the same as the one in Spider-Man. And I was just going to clarify, it's like literally just choices in general. It doesn't have to be the exact same one. Just having a superhero have to choose between saving X or Y, you know, it's like that's, and his point was if we saw that show up, that it would be something people would be like, what the hell? And I was like, no, that's, that's, that happens a lot of them. And I think, I don't think there is a superhero movie where they don't make a choice. It may not be like between life and death or something, but it's almost like a part of the story that they choose to become a hero or whatever. Um, but yeah. And, uh, there were a couple of people who were saying that they want us to pause less and watch things in advance. And I was just going to say, like to clarify it's, uh, that's not what this is, uh, the podcast is supposed to be like reactionary, reactionary. And, um, every frame of pause, you know, we just can't resist every frame. Um, but we do try and correct the record if we make mistakes. That's obviously the, um, if you could call that a caveat, but, um, we are always willing to take criticism though. If anybody's got suggestions on like what we could do to improve that remains without format, that would be super cool. We've already got rhino milk memes coming in. That's fantastic. Um, but yes, uh, a warm welcome to Dick Devon. Doomcock who's here today. Uh, hello, sir. How do you do? Well, Marlar and hail to Marlar's team here. Hail to everyone out there in YouTube land. This is Dick Devon. Doomcock broadcasting from the center of the earth and saying, Hey guys, it's Saturday morning. It is, it's, it's horrible. We have to stream at a time so early, but, uh, yeah, you've, um, you've got a wonderful channel where you review, uh, lots of, lots of different movies and, um, I think you've been, you've been taking Star Trek to task as a recently, right? Yo, yes. Yeah. Star Trek and Star Wars are suffering from the same malaise of canon corruption and people who hate the franchise being in charge of the franchise, which really doesn't generally work out well for the franchise. Yeah. Unfortunately, I've got no connection to Star Trek even a little bit. I've only ever seen the JJ Abrams once, which I was just like, well, that was meh. So you should watch, uh, the last generation is a good way to start. Yeah. Well, to be honest, if I wanted to tackle Star Trek, I'd probably like, let's go from the beginning and go for the whole thing. Let's get right into it. Cause I got loads of friends who like swear by the next generation being one of the best TV shows in existence. So I'm like, hmm, maybe you should, uh, try it out. I think the original series is the best. I think next generation, I think they basically go in descending order of, of greatness, but, uh, they are all vastly better than, uh, you know, STD, what I call it Star Trek discovery. It's a disease of the mind like syphilis.  So yeah, that's, that's my opinion of Star Trek discovery. Oh, that sounds positive. Um, and yeah. So next on the left then is smud boy returning for a second EFAP. How are you doing today, sir? Oh, thank you very much. I'm doing well. Excellent.  Obviously. Yes. I'm here to refuse every single point all of you wonderful gentlemen have in a very courteous manner, of course. Excellent. And then next to the left, right at the end is Dasbushit, who's been in the chat a couple of times for these things. And he's finally evolved as a critic and managed to make it onto the actual cast now. I have, I have ascended. I am now, uh, everybody knows me as a GMOD guy, but I have ascended, I have evolved as a GMOD guy into a critic. And then evolved from there. And I haven't seen any complaints about sound, which means that we might actually have nailed it this time without having to change anything. So that's, yeah, for a while, it was really quiet, wasn't it? Oh, it, it went from too quiet to too loud to two just, and I think without saying, I don't want to jinx it. It's just, it's fine. Someone's going to say, Hey, it could be better if you made someone something else and then I change it and then it all goes to hell. So we're just going to carry on as if nothing's happened. Um, but yeah, first thing, I think it'll be interesting to show you guys, I'll post it in the, in the thing so you guys can see it, but I'll be putting it on screen now. So in case you are like confused at what I'm showing everybody, but, uh, the person we're covering is called Major Major Lee, I think. And, uh, he's been requested quite a bit this video. People want to see what, uh, we have to say about it. Of course we were just like, yeah, yeah, we'll give it a shot, we'll give it a shot.  Now I have purpose. Good for you, really. And I was like, who is this guy? And I checked out his YouTube and I was like, oh, he's the guy that made the last Jedi video. And I was like, wow, he really doesn't like me. And I just said that, like, I've had purpose from the beginning, you can just check my channel. The, the, the earliest stuff I've got is just me saying the media is good or bad based on different decisions and stuff like that. And the Star Wars was just another thing in line where I was like, right, time to shoot you down because of how terrible this has gotten. And, um, Of course it worked, man. And he's very friendly. Um, I explained that and he said, that's so nice that you're proud of your videos. I too am happy you were able to spread your bloated unoriginal take of the criminally underrated film. I would flush that pride down the toilet if I were you. So very friendly. And he really likes very cordial. Um, and it's not, you know, that's fine. Absolutely mean rags will stand by it to the end of time that he's going to be welcome to come on. He could even call me the worst insults in the world. And we would still allow him on. Oh, and yeah, just for clarification, for people who are still not following dishonor wolf is still not not back on EFAP yet, but he will be, he will be. Don't be concerned forever. He'll come back. But I mean, it probably best that he's not here right now considering you'll be six people and that would be insane. Um, so that's enough build up. We're going to be tackling his video and checking out the best defense for the last Jedi on YouTube. Are you all very excited? I'm, oh, I'm thrilled. He seems very sure of himself. Oh, he's got, he's got some bad things coming, my friends. He's got some bad things coming.  So, uh, yeah, you just can't take the logic bombs.  You just, you, uh, I've got something to say about his, his technique in just a little bit, but I don't want to speak out of turn. All right. Through well. Yeah. So anyone can pause whenever they want. Here we go. Warning. The following presentation contains cold hard truths that might change the way you think your discretion won't do you any good now. T.F. Is it too quiet for everyone? Um, I'm using by the browser. I'm using the browser booster thing. Yeah. Yeah. If you guys, hopefully it's not going to work. It'll be loud enough for the stream, but hopefully it is for you guys as well. Okay. Warning. The following presentation contains cold hard truths that might change the way you think your discretion won't do you any good now. I like the L.L. T.L.J. Hmm. You taste that. Tastes like close minded, whiny fanboy tears. If you want a great start, you know what I mean? Yeah. He's really priming us to have our mind changed. That's what the intro is like. You can get some cold hard facts prepared. Have your mind changed.  You're like, oh, well, that was.   So what do you think? Yeah, they're cold hard facts because they're half baked. It's a, it's a controversial way to open, but I think he's, you know, he's got a shot here. That tastes like close minded, whiny fanboy tears. If you have a problem with this scene, you must have forgotten that Luke grew up as a farmer. He's always liked blue milk and farmers love drinking directly from the cow's tit. It's part of the job, isn't it? I guess you know, my first goal is green milk. So actually it's not a same color. Like how dare you? Yeah, it's it's milk from a different animal. I don't even know what you call that animal. It's milk from different animals tastes different. Yeah. How does he know he likes it so much just because he works at a farm and drinks what's there? It doesn't mean he likes it that much. Yeah. Does he like water if he drinks that enough? It's such a bizarre. OK, I've got something to say here, guys. I've got something to say.  You complete. Wrap it up.     Is that true? Yeah, that's definitely. You didn't get it straight from the tap on Tatooine. No cows. Again, for those of you who don't know, once it comes out of the titty, it doesn't taste like it does when you get it at the supermarket. That's very true. And besides my curious question is, how many people were complaining that it is it doesn't make sense that a farmer would drink a milk from the tea? But was that was that commonly said? Was that something that a lot of people were thrown out in videos? And I just said it was really weird. I think it was the weird aspect. Yeah. It was like, we're spending screen time on this, I guess.  I don't want to do the line of duty thing. I'm just going to go milk this cow now. It's like, and he doesn't even like collect jars or anything like that. He just goes over, grabs one bottle, drinks it up and he's out and the Star Wars. So that thing could not be an animal. It could be an alien that's being molested. That's true. It could be disturbing. You you remember the way it looked at Ray? Yeah. Yes. I have like help while I was getting always getting drained by Luke. I, you know, speaking genuinely when I saw that for the first time, I was confused at what message they were conveying. I was like, what are you saying with this? Is that was that was that like is this supposed to be funny? Well, it's part of the anti capitalist message because they're exploiting the natural resources of the beautiful bounty of nature in order to sustain ourselves selfishly. He probably didn't even ask consent. It didn't seem to need it. He was just. Yeah, I mean he was he was asking for it. Come on, the sea cow was very. It was very patriarchal of him to just assume. Show me on the doll where the Jedi touched you. Well, here on my leg nipple. So yeah, we we had open in, I don't know, counter argument, but hey, let's see. Let's see where he goes next. Farmers love drinking directly from the cow's tit. It's part of the job, isn't it? I guess you can't deny that this is a love it or hate it kind of film. Things I know a lot of people who think basically nothing of the film like people like me. I know a lot of people who think it's a film. I know a lot of farmers that don't do that.  Yeah, I don't remember them ever like loving to drink. I've never heard of that. Sorry. Yeah, the right opinion, by the way. Use it.  That's like your opinion, though. You didn't check out the deleted scenes, dude. Didn't read the Green War cards. But yeah, the right opinion said that he both does not really like it, does not really hate this film. He thought it was just meh. So sorry about the love hate thing. But yes, you know, typically, typically. Loved in the Force Awakens.  You might love what was done to them in the last Jedi.  People certainly did not appreciate the excellent. Wait, was that a. I'm trying to picture where arguments begin and end. So he was saying that he's just saying that it was the greatest thing to have happened to Snoke was getting killed. He says it's arguably one of the best scenes in Star Wars we didn't like because we expected something from Snoke. Oh, no, our theories, our precious theories, rags.  My father, it sounds like he's bringing up the scene where like Ray finally finds out who she is. It sounds like that's where he's going with this. Oh, that one. Yeah. But he's also talking about Snoke with me, I think. The that is that is a horrible argument. He's saying nothing is such a is the best scene in the entire franchise. Let me know. We're stuck anyway, because he just said it's great. That was it. It's like, OK, let me know if you actually want to make an argument.  People certainly did not appreciate the excellent twist that Ray's parents are actually nobodies because they were too upset to stay here. It is excellent. I'm sorry. Let me let me just get this out here.  He says that would have been the most obvious choice in the world. And it did her parents were nobody special.  None of us innately wanted or needed Ray's parents to be Palpatine's or Skywalkers.   I'll have you know, she downloaded it, powers from Kylo Ren. OK, it's in the can. And it makes complete sense. It was in for Skype. Uh-huh, the movie built it up. It's like it was kind of the movie that was saying, like, oh, look at this, Ray's parents are pretty special. I bet you're going to really want to see what it is. It's like up. No, it's nobody. But it's kind of what happens when you have expectations from a previous installment of the series. Oh, we're expecting something to happen. Yes, here's my imagination. It doesn't matter if it's true or false. I'm just speculating. And then when we get Zippo. Yeah, and he's just good, by the way. He hasn't said anything. He's just like, this is great. It's like, OK, I think it would be one thing, too. If like if Ray didn't actually bring her parents up at all. I'm going to meet my phone. Sorry about that. Ray never if never if Ray never brought her parents up like at all. And like she didn't really care. I think people would probably be just a little more forgiving that her parents were nobody, but they built it up. So they did. But I mean, we are really desperately casting around for some explanation as to why she suddenly got the bestest Jedi ever. She basically can use these powers like it took Luke three movies to get to, right?  And she's she's beating someone who is trained by Snoke and Luke. It's like, hmm, seems like that person might have the upper hand to me. But if you're sure, why do you guys hate women?  All right, let's see what else he's got. I'm waiting for an argument. We still haven't really got one outside of the farmers milk. We haven't really got an argument. Twist that raised parents are actually nobody's because they were too obsessed with even dumber theories about who she was. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Each and every one of those Ray theories, if they actually happened in the film, they'd have the dramatic weight of a feather. Everyone. They're not good. Everyone, he read them all. They're all of the theories are worse than the reality that she's at nobody from nowhere and her parents are no one. And we really have to let you know that. Look, Ryan Johnson shows the best results like every single possibility he had the best one. All I can say is subversive. I mean, yeah, you guys didn't see it come in. That's why. That's why you hate it. I didn't see the other empty mystery box. That's the specialty of Jar Jar Abrams. And he had one left over, I guess, Ryan Johnson did and he gave it to us and it was empty. Great. Wonder if JJ always intended that one to be empty or if if Ryan took the prize out of it. He was like, no, it's empty. There's only one thing that's there's only two things ever in a mystery box, empty air or dried turd. So you can tell by rattling it what's inside. I would have taken the dry turd over the nothing. I really I would have I would have been like, well, that that's a that's a dry dude, but at least that's what we tried to give him. That's what we tried to give him with our fan theories that are worse than the empty air.   Dramatic weight of a feather. They're not good. If you don't see how this is much more relatable and a better dramatic reveal than just being somebody famous's daughter, then you really do not appreciate good story. Tell me why don't you help us out, dude? Explain why you just keep saying it's good. It's like, yeah, tell me how I would love to know how. I'm hoping he's got more than that. Please don't tell me this is the whole video. And if you guys were able to come up with said theories, that's the definition of the word predictable. You just predicted it. What? OK, OK, because I have the ability to have an imagination, therefore, they shouldn't be done because it's going to be predictable. Yeah, because somebody out there on the Internet came up with an idea and that idea happened to be the idea that they went with. That means that it's predictable to everybody. Every single person would be like, oh, that's predictable. That's like saying when the red letter media predicted the events of what happens in solo. Yeah. And I mean, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. What's what they're going to do with solo? But because we predicted that or because they predict that therefore. Solo is a bad movie. Just like what if what if Ray's parents turned out to be oompa-gluto from from some planet? And then they're like, nobody thought that, right? There's some guy on Twitter who was like, I thought it was going to be oompa-gluto.  Like, we're going to try something. Yeah, basically foiling expectation. Yeah, basically foiling expectations means that Ryan Johnson couldn't come up with anything that the fans hadn't already guessed. So he says, it's nobody done. It's like nobody said that, right? It's like one guy was like, I said that. It's like, yeah. Oh, man, now it's a shitty idea. Somebody come up with something else. Well, this assumes that if someone came up with the idea, it couldn't have been a good one. Hmm.  He just said it was great. And if you don't understand it, you don't understand storytelling. Rags, so who am I going to believe you? And if you guys were able to come up with said theories, that's the definition of the word predictable. You just predicted it. And that twist would have been exactly like Empire, only not good at all. Instead. Oh, that would have been exactly like Empire, but not good. OK, OK, all righty. The logic here, my brain can't take it. This guy's amazing. You just you see what this is, right? Like, I'm not saying it's the whole video because I've gone through it yet, but the amount of people who would come to this just to be told you were right. The movie is good because it's not bad. And they're like, oh, yes, he's right. He was right the whole time. I knew it all along. Anyway, I wasn't crazy. That's what this is going to be for the next 40 minutes. We like Empire only not good at all. Instead, we get this whole new theme that, yes, she's a nobody. And anybody can have a force in any way.  I'm just like they just say the themes. The theme that she's a theme. Oh, yes. I mean, failure is the greatest teacher. People always reference it's like, yeah, it was a really not really applicable to the movie because it just failed and nobody learned any things like, oh, well. It's the grim realities of life. This is realism, people. Force now Luke says it himself to say that if the Jedi die, the light dies, his vanity, can you feel that? And to say that Ryan trashed what JJ set up is so not true. Go back and watch the Force Awakens and they could very well be setting up that she's a nobody. Wait, wait. Did you just say let's let's hear that one more time because that was dumb. Go back and watch the Force Awakens and they could very well be setting up that she's a nobody. The film is plenty of that theme in it as well. That's not that's the straw man. They're saying that they've ruined the setup by making her have nobody and he said, yes, but it's possible. Wait, wait a second. If explain it. If this guy could be doing it. If this guy says that they were setting up that she's a nobody, then that makes it predictable that she's a nobody, which means it's bad. Nice catch. Not only that though, but just the idea that he's just that's not what people saying. Nobody said they hated it because it didn't follow the Force Awakens. They could be setting it up. It's like, what do you mean they could be? Either they are or they aren't. The movie is done. Did you watch the movie? What happened in the movie? Did the movie say she feels like she's by herself and she has no family? Well, no, they didn't do that. They clearly set up that something's going on. She's on that planet for a reason. She's waiting for her parents. Yeah, like if you ask me who were raised parents based on the information from TFA, I'd be like, literally could be anybody on the planet. They could be BB-8. I don't know. It's not really any information on that one. But they could be aliens. Like, what is this guy trying to say? This is insane. Yeah, that would be a better way. Plenty of that theme in it as well. One thing JJ definitely did was leave a lot of stuff open-ended but maybe too open-ended because it led to way too much speculation. Now, there is only one person that I have from the... Wait a second. ...wisdom that is polygon. I don't understand how that even supports or takes away from any point he's making. JJ left it too open. Did he just say previously that predictions are bad and then that they're too predictable? It's going to be like the Empire only worse. But now he's saying, oh, now it should be... It was too open, too unpredictable. It's like, what's this? Let me just say that. Did was leave a lot of stuff open-ended but maybe too open-ended because it led to way too much speculation. Now, how could you speculate if it's predictable? Like, you wouldn't be able... How could you speculate to an open level if it's too predictable? Didn't he just speculate that it could very well be set up this way? Yeah, he speculated that it very well could be the thing that he said was not predictable. Like... He is talking on both sides of his mouth. I can't believe how nonsensical this is. I'm not following this at all, but I'm just hoping for a point. He doesn't have any gaps in there that you can think between. That's basically his sales method. He's like Movie Bob and killing the blank other people. Just keep talking, don't stop. Keep talking, go, go, go. That's why our format rips these things apart because we listen to everything they say. We're like, hmm. Now, there is only one person that I know of whose prediction about Ray actually came true. Call me crazy, but wouldn't it be cooler if she... Oh, good Lord. Oh, no. Just... So it's predictable and it's bad.  No, it's not... If he predicted it, it's because it's great writing because he's a great writing person, I guess. But if someone else predicts it, it's predictable.  That's embarrassing, dude. Or... All right.  Yeah, one guy predicted it and that's because it was so bad. That's, yeah, I find that amazing that he actually threw this in. He's like, just let you guys know the only guy that really did it was me. Okay, good for you, man. Proud of you. It actually came true. Call me crazy, but wouldn't it be cooler if she wasn't related to anyone? I think the idea that Ray is a nobody and that anyone can learn the force is a great concept. Nobody has a problem with anyone learning the force. She doesn't learn anything. That's not the point. We won an explanation for where her power came from and the only thing they got left because of the way they did it was saying, oh yeah, she's like Palpatine's daughter, I guess. And you're like, oh, well, at least Palpatine was powerful. We have an entire body of knowledge of the Lord saying you cannot just learn the force. There are entire schools where Jedi go and find children who are sensitive and then they develop their skills. It's not just I'm born. That's the thing. Sorry. I go ahead. Well, if that's the thing they're going for, then why can't she just be born of somebody who hasn't been known to be great with the force and she learns it anyway? It's like, why can't they go that route and still stick with that theme if they really wanted to? Well, this is a main part of her character, her finding her parents and she really wanted to wait on Jakku for her parents to come find her and then she realizes it's not gonna happen. And then what do you do with that? Nothing, you just throw it out the door. I'm gonna interject here for just a second. Yeah. Would that be okay? This is everywhere and it always has been and it always will be there for anyone. But the thing that made the Jedi great and the terrible was that it took training to access. I mean, training along with aptitude, being attuned to the force. And what this guy is effectively celebrating with such monotonous Ilan is the utter democratization of mediocrity. So it's no wonder he loves the last Jedi.  You know? He's excited because now everyone in anyone can use the force. Oh, goody.  And that's the thing. If she actually went to the dark side as a result of tapping into it like without any control or understanding, at least we could be like, oh, okay. Okay. But no, she's like one of the greatest characters in the series in terms of altruism. She's like the nicest person. She's not just special. She is the most special. There is no one greater than her. Like Darth Vader can't even touch her in terms of his skill or her skill. He needs to understand that there's a difference between everybody can use the force and everybody just can use it to this aptitude through no hard work. To say that anybody, if they work hard enough and they focus hard enough and they train hard enough can become great is different than saying, oh yeah, anyone can do it. I don't even think that's the case. I don't even think that's the case. I don't think that's the case because all we do is we see Rey just being amazing. No one else in the story can just do that. It's just her. Yeah, that's what I was saying. What he's saying is that it's great that we know that everyone can use the force, but that's a far cry from Rey is God. I wanna see what would happen if she had bumped into Vader in Cloud City.  Yeah. And I guess this guy would have liked an original trilogy where Luke was just another force user.    Thank you very much. Judge her by her age, do you?  Everybody can. That's the good thing about Rey, that's the good thing. And they can be excellent at it. The best ever for old people. There's a nobody in that anyone can learn the force is a great concept. And man, does it feel good to be right. Now. You've been nothing wrong for two minutes and 30 seconds. You're given H. Barba Guy a run for his money on the smug levels here. Like this is, this is beautiful. Oof, bad, bad moment. A lot of people think that Kylo is lying to her about her parents being junk traders, but then why does it come out of her mouth? They were nobody. Yeah, just let it go. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So if I walk into a room and Rags is standing over a murdered corpse and I go, you killed him and Rags didn't. And then Rags goes, yes. Then that's me saying it and Rags confirming it. Rags lied. You understand how that works? Like that's what Kylo did. Yeah, if she doesn't know, if Rey doesn't know, then she doesn't know. He just said that. If it was Kylo's lie, then why did she say it? He was like, I don't know.  No. Did she download like the 23 and Me for Jakku with her force Skype call from Kylo Ren? He's downloaded Starwars.exe. It's just everything. Yeah, when she downloaded the force from him, she also downloaded his memories and all of his knowledge and then continued to lie up to that point. Why does it come out of her mouth? They were nobody.  Just let it go, guys. What, are you going to say she's lying to him now? Watch a movie, people. But we've already counted that.  That camp by tomorrow. People very sadly did not comprehend how perfect Luke Skywalker's ending was. Dude, I love this style of argumentation. Someone says like, this thing is bad. You go, it's good. Then they go, OK, but you see this mechanical piece by here doesn't fit quite right. Or there's something rusted. You go, it's good. You go, oh, well, OK. But I'm literally telling you that this car has no wheels. And you go, it's good. I get how people like this video if they're in favor of the last Jedi. This is literally just confirmation bias. Yeah, there's no arguments being made here. Perfect, especially the fact that it was very much like Obi-Wan sacrifice to save him and a new hope. Ten times more awesome. It happened in the other film in this different context. Therefore, it's good. Only it's 10 times more. It's better. It's better. It's more perfect. Yeah, we can't even respond to that because there's no argument. It's literally a bend died that way.  I think the Kylo killed Luke three times better because he had three blades. And if you look at the facial hair on Luke compared to Obi-Wan Kenobi, I think Luke's is darker, therefore better. Yeah. And he also wasn't there. So therefore he killed him in an idea only. And then he died literally after the fact. And it was made in 2018 or 17. Sorry, in 2017, it's just better than 77. Can we be honest? It's a better year. Do you all agree? I'm better at vintage. Perfect, Luke Skywalker's ending was, especially the fact that it was very much like Obi-Wan sacrifice to save him and a new hope. Only ten times more awesome because of this insane Jedi mantra reveal. This right here is a reveal doesn't change anything. If he was there, he would have died. Turns out he wasn't there, but he also died. I'm like, he wasn't there. So we died. Did he just choose to die? I don't even know why Luke's dead. Just to clarify, in case anyone here on chat didn't know, the only reason they did this was to have this shot. Ryan Johnson wanted him to be at the Dual Suns when he died.   I don't know. There's nothing else to it mechanically. It's just like, I don't know. He can do that. It takes a lot. It killed him and moving on. We got we got our shot, which, by the way, I like the shot. I do. I think he wanted to do it so bad. Couldn't he just change the time of day on Salt Planet? I mean, it's a bit difficult because you have like Kylo's just going to stand there awkwardly. Well, Luke has this moment. He's like, I think Mark Hamill made a comment on Twitter about a week ago about how Luke died because he's like a drug addict and because he was in withdrawal for so long. Yeah. And that he and he used it at the like this a lot all at once. It was too much for a system.  Where are you getting this?  He was trying to impress Ray. He was like, yeah, I just do this. That like a couple of days later, he's like, shit, I shouldn't drink that. She's like, are you OK? Yeah, I'm a big fan. He'll be one sacrifice to save him and a new hope. Only 10 times more awesome because of this insane Jedi mind trick reveal. This right here is about as Luke Skywalker as it can possibly get. And if you really hate Luke. So we're the ones that don't understand. And he's the one who's like, this is about as Luke Skywalker's. It's like any arguments with that? You just know. Teleportation across distances. Yeah, this is clearly what Luke Skywalker is all about.  Let me tell you something that the heart. This is the worst betrayal of Luke Skywalker. This scene that there was in the entire film. And I made a video about this because, look, he's there. OK, I mean, he's projected himself there. He touches Leah's hand. He hands her the fake dice.  He's blocking light. He's casting shadows, et cetera, and so on. So he can kind of phase in and phase out depending on his will. And that means he's invulnerable.  The only reason that he didn't is because he chose not to. He's fucks around with Leah instead of actually helping these people to give Ray the chance to lift the boulders later. It's a complete and total betrayal of Luke Skywalker. The worst yet. That's my feeling. Well, this guy said it was perfect, though. Sorry. So you're completely invalidated. All of your arguments don't make any sense now, because he said. I better start hitting the booze. Oh, I'm almost there. Blame it on this guy, not this guy. What? Oh, we blame it on both of them. There was nothing that Ryan could have done differently. There was literally nothing different that could have been done. No, this is even though it's completely unpredictable. This is the only thing you could do. Yeah. And you don't blame Ryan. You blame the guy before him. That's that's how this works. You didn't make it, but. Well, I hated the Force Awakens, so I do blame Jar Jar Abrams. But Ryan definitely made the last Jedi, so he did. Yeah, we can confirm that. The idea that it's like, yeah, it's only you hate it. You can't hate him. No, Ryan didn't. You see, you just don't understand filmmaking. It's all JJ's fault that Ryan became a director. You see, right? And if you really hate Luke Skywalker's storyline in this film, blame it on this guy, not this guy. I thought you just said it was perfect. Why would you care if people hated it at that point? It's brilliant. Yeah, Jar Jar should have the credit. Yeah, according to him, it has nothing to do with Ryan at that point. Right? Now, this film was clearly aware of the divisiveness that it would cause. That's why you see a lot of split or schism related imagery in it. But what? I think we call that reaching.  It's like, no, the lightsaber got split. That represents arguments online. Well, I saw death and I saw a death and schism split on rotten tomatoes. Oh, yeah. The rain section of the divisiveness that it would cause. That's why you see a lot of split or schism related imagery in it. But the entire film is riddled with that same message.  But but the lightsaber. But what's the point if the lightsaber is completely functional? And I don't even know whatever pocket. How could we not in order for this series to exist and have some impact in 2018? There needs to be something brand new going on within it. This is not brand new.  It's like, what do you mean? It's got all the characters we know. It's got the same forced war between rebels and empire, which shouldn't even be happening, considering the world building. There are focal point usage in the movie, and therefore it shows that this movie is unfocused and that's brilliant. I mean, it's new in that it has a pointless B plot. Does any any Star Wars film have a pointless B plot other than this one? Like one that just doesn't go into anything. That's not this is the first movie. Sucks. I mean, that's that's new. I just like we needed to do something new. It's like, yeah, I mean, sure, I don't really call this film that, but, you know, go for it. Some impact in 2018. There needs to be something brand new going on within it. And the way that this film introduced the idea of a better, newer rebel alliance was subtle and really well thought out. Yeah, you can't just keep coming out wiped out. He keeps just saying it's it's it's it's X.  They're they're so good that they know everybody by name. It's just it's good. I'm not going to now I'm going to talk about a different aspect because it's just good. And also this aspect is perfect. And this aspect is great. You just like, hello. Hello.  They're doing awful. I think he meant better isn't like, I don't know, more moral or something. There's no way he can be stronger. There's no way he can be stronger. They're literally 20 people on a Millennium Falcon. That's like the weakest we've ever seen. They're refugees. And that's that means it's a fail. They have. Oh, yes. They're down to 20 people on a ship and their membership is less than the local PTA at your neighborhood grade school. Yeah, I think they're done. I'm I'm blown away that it's like a I wonder if you'll qualify on within it. And the way that this film introduced the idea of a better, newer rebel alliance was subtle and really well thought out.  But maybe it's what there's didn't. Well, there's didn't. What do you think soldiers did a good job?  Were they not soldiers fighting at a war? Did they not? Do we not count those things? I mean, I can't believe I'm defending the last Jedi here from the guy who's saying it's amazing. But what were they supposed to be? Like not like diplomats? Like, what do they want? Like, what does he want? If you read the Grimoire cards, you see Rose's sister is a plumber. They're supposed to fight with love, damn it. She has like a gun that she tosses and bubbles. And a cute bit. The idea that 30 years ago, we thought only one guy was powerful with the force. We thought there was one Jedi left. Now we're learning that everything we were taught about the force wasn't all that there is to know. And in reality, anyone who's saying that? Who's who said that we know everything about the force? Especially because we know that Leia has some connection to the force, too. So what do you say is wrong? Like, what do you say? And he's just flat out wrong. I just who says, man, I hate this film because we knew literally everything about the force and now they're telling us new things about it. I don't remember no idea. Wasn't all that there is to know. And in reality, anyone can tap into it. You already knew that. Who's against that idea? Yeah. This is weird. Stop. Is he the straw manning or not making arguments at all? Do something. Not just Luke. Now we're awakening that same force and average no name. No buddies. Oh, you mean like Luke? I mean, I guess because he was he wasn't a no name once you get to episode five. But what I'm saying is like, literally go to the prequels.   They're all just kids. This isn't new. Sorry to burst your bubble. Rose freed the animals and left the orphans enslaved. Who are they? They didn't deserve it apparently. Maybe those animals were going to be Jedi. Yeah, baby. Their force, it makes sense that if you're a Jedi and you could use the force, your trusty steed better be able to use the force, too. That's right. Average no name for scratch themselves or something. That is what it's going to take this time around. If we're getting the sequel trilogy for it to have a real reason to exist, it needs to be about something bigger. And that is precisely what we just got. No, no. This is horrible.  It needs to be about something bigger. We have to make it bigger. More ships, more explosions, more death. More gooder. More, more, more. Perfect. And more boring characters. Rose Tico was what he showed as he spoke about that.  He loves mediocrity.  Well, hey, he said newer, bigger, better, everything. It's good that the climax wasn't based entirely on drama between the Skywalker's and the solos, you know? It wasn't that. It was something completely different and newer and better. Contradictive doesn't even begin to describe this video. We're only four minutes in. Like, how did you do this? Episode nine should and probably will be about a bunch of previously non-Jedi people awakening the force in themselves or it might just end with that. I wanna see Finn and other characters start to exhibit force-like powers. I don't think they're gonna do that. Why? Well, that would be really forced of them. Finn's clearly not the force character. Neither is Poe. Those two are clearly archetypes that are based on stars being the guy with the gun who's a hotshot pilot.  If they are, then fine, I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt they're gonna do that. Let's just make everyone ordinary.  That'd be boring. Everyone's a wizard.  Like, that's way more interesting because of the fact that they're not the exact same. Like, just to make everybody a force user, it's just like, yeah, no, fine. Let's have that movie. He wants it that badly, I guess. Force is universal now. That doesn't render Luke obsolete at all. Who said that? It's not universal. Where is he getting this? Who said that? Who you talking to? Everyone, everyone could potentially have the force. Doesn't mean that everybody is going to exhibit force usage. That's like, this is what I mean. He keeps defending the argument that it's like, hey, everyone can use the force. And it's just like, nobody's saying stop, stop it. He still has the biggest heart in the whole galaxy. Always willing to sacrifice for us. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. He literally abandoned his family. He watched the movie. I don't care if he doesn't at the end.  I want to die.  Oh, it's bizarre. And you know, his reasoning being that the Jedi are just as bad as a Sith, if you really think about it. And it's like, yeah, OK, no, yeah, no, I understand. I get it. But the Sith are in power right now and they're threatening to murder everybody, including your family. I don't know if you care. Like, I don't know.  I love the idea that he argues that like they know better than each other. Just like, yeah, that's great. But we all know Jedi are better than Sith for the world. Yes, we all know that.  It's like you want to philosophize. That's great. But we know that the Jedi don't actively just murder people regularly. Like, can we just we just agree on that? But the Jedi aren't perfect.  Yep, that works. It's all the same. They're going to kill all the people. What are you going to do?  What do you got? He's still got the biggest heart, guys. They're all tainted by sin. The biggest heart. Fights himself to save others. And he was the one to pass on the baton to teach Ray and the audience. He didn't teach me anything. Literally, Mark Hamill's pointed that out. Is an interview where someone says, like, so hard, like someone says something like, what did you teach Ray? And his response is like, what if maybe I didn't even teach or anything? It's before the film came out and he doesn't want to confirm anything. But it's just funny because it's like, yeah.   Oh, geez. It's to awaken the force within ourselves. That is what Luke will be known for in this new trilogy. Just totally reinventing the force and for the better. The film provides for the better. So you haven't explained to us what you even mean by reinventing it. And then you move on to say it's just better than what we had before, which we don't even know by comparison what we're dealing with you. It's Broom Boy. It's the only thing I could think of. Broom Boy is better. We had Broom Boy already in the prequels, like potentially though. But they all died. They all died. All the Broom Boy's died. Well, they should have broomed harder. They just went Brooming, man. Now we're gonna get Force Horse. It's gonna be great. Broom Boy grows up to be Star Wars kid. So give him some respect. They tell stories of the mightiest janitor in all the galaxy. He roams the Force Horse into the sun. Read a book about how Palpatine was once a neutral innocent child, but then he picked up a broom and everything changed. He can have a strong influence on a clogged toilet. Force and for the better, the film provides us with solid drama between new and old characters. People being faced with actual personality defining disillusionment. Dude, you just have to say it. If you say it, it means it's true. Oh, it's tough. Like Top Shelf is in, they don't want you to see it or be able to reach it. Oh, it's Top Shelf all right, because he's really reaching. This was the point back in April when I stopped, because that's the five minute mark. And I just left my comment. I could not take anymore. It was this bad. I love, it's so easy to review films this way, or at least write video essays this way, where you just go, this is just good. This is good. Character's a good, story's good. The lore is great. The thing is this. The thing is this. And you're just like, you're not saying anything. You're just making us laugh at this point. Finding decisions supported by Top Shelf acting.  I'm sorry, actual visual imagination. As opposed to fake sets. Some of the most dynamic designs I've ever seen in the entire trilogies. I just love actual visual imagination. If you've seen these sets, I think the most expensive and the most real was Kanto Byte. And it was ridiculously expensive. And half the rest of the sets I saw in the post-production stuff were half green screens. Yeah, and the irony is that most people felt the Kanto Byte felt green screen. Like the whole thing felt fake. Yeah, I don't recall there being a lot of, you know, boasting of practical sets in this one, but I just figured I'd missed it.  Like it gave prequel vibes. The thing, you know, like it turns out it's not just about money. It's also about how you use it. But he just said actual visual imagination. So he's saying this is actually good, okay? Like you guys probably don't know what actual good is. No. Clearly not. We need education also. I heard of it once on the train, but taking up three new detailed worlds, all with their own. Three new detailed worlds. I mean, what do you mean by detailed? We have not Tatooine, not Hoth, and Casino Planet. And Capitalism Bad Planet. Orange Man Bad Planet. What does detailed mean? I'll just let him continue. Taking us to three new detailed worlds, all with their own new creatures and subplots. So subtle, the way that they crashed through that casino with their stampede of force horses.   Also new creatures, by the way. Just like what they showed a CGI wolf crystal-y thing. And that's just, you're done at that point. You're like, this is great. Horgs. Yeah. Jeez. This subtle plot point of if and then with dozens and dozens of if to get from, what is it, Finn is now doesn't want to escape and then he gets picked up by Rose and then they start going if, oh, but then we need this and then we need to get this and then we have to do that. That's how they get the canto bite. This is giant if clause. If all these things happen just to get on board. That's not subtle, that's not what we did.  For how beautiful Star Wars was. I mean, what an incredible universe George Lucas created.  I mean, robots that would have been the featured stars of any movie previous to Star Wars were littering the background. I mean, hardly worth a glance. Such was the bounty of imagination that we were given. And look what we got in The Force Awakens.  And there wasn't one original design, one creature, one robot, one ship that could compare to Macquarie's brilliant and iconic designs.  And you want to know where Porgs came from? Brian Johnson, his long shots of whatever planet Luke was on. There were too many birds in the shot. And he didn't want to get rid of those in post. So he's okay. I heard that they weren't allowed to. They couldn't, like because of the island, you weren't allowed to bother the wildlife. Oh, well, yeah, but they could airbrush them out, right? Yeah. And instead of doing that, they just made their own. And they said, okay, we'll just have some close up scenes and shots of that.  They could have just airbrushed them. Instead, he decided, yeah, we need these. It's like, okay. Well, they made one step on a lightsaber. Did they like do that? No, they took real ones. Hey, they added great deal to these amazing worlds.  That's amazing. Okay. Yeah, but it's salt. Also Fox boys that are crystal-y. That's the best thing ever. And if you say anything else, you're wrong. You don't understand storytelling. Another artist came up with that. I mean, that is literally someone else's work that they just lifted. I mean, if you've seen that, have you seen that sculpture? What is it, like on DeviantArt or something? Well, the... No, no, no. I'm telling you that some artist had sculpted a crystal fox that looked exactly like that ahead of the movie. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah. Actually, I feel like I heard that somewhere. And it's like, controversial. So much for the visual imagination. Well, there's also the people who have said that Ryan stole it from a fan fiction, like the premise for this film. I don't know how much credence there is for that. It was Polish artist. Let me see. Yeah, apparently... Yeah, I just Googled it real quick and I saw some... I've seen some... Yeah, there's some stuff on it. There's some stuff on it. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that. And I doubt Ryan Johnson stole anything from fanfic because what fan would have written this shit? Yeah. Creature is a subplot. A fan did write the background story for raised parents. There was an article on that. Well, no background. They wrote nothing. It was a blank page. Apparently, I don't know, but that was the one thing. Consider my expectations diverted. Ryan said, brilliant. I love the unbroken whiteness. I think I'm going to steal that for the finale. So many people cite just the fact that it goes white on red for not hearth is why that planet's amazing and detailed. I'm just like, you realize that's just two colors, right? I'm not trying to say anything, but like, you know, Coruscant being the planet city. It's like how cool that is. Yeah, what's up with those stupid...    But what was the plan with that? Because were they effective? Were any of their guns working? I don't remember seeing them shoot anything down and they just get melted by that laser beam, or at least Finns does. Dude. So what was the point of attacking? I still remember I had everything saying that Crate was amazing, like everything about it. And when I came to talking about Crate in part three, I was like, there's nothing right with Crate. None of it makes any sense at all. It's all horrible. So if you try to think about how anything works in the entire scene, especially Finns character changing choice, which my goodness, I'll just, let's just, let's just keep going. We'll be here literally until we're all dead. Telled worlds, all with their own new creatures and subplots going on, which will all subtly weaved into the main story. Even the wildlife in this movie had dramatic purpose. The film acts- The dramatic purpose? That's not how drama works. Tell me what the dramatic purpose of the Porgs was. I am dying to know. No, not that one. It doesn't count.  He meant the crystal things. Okay. That's what he meant. All right. To tell me.  We can go through there. Dramatic. That's a genius idea. I'm going to go with the whole of that laser now. Thanks, Fox boys. You focused everything. Dothroo boy.  Like saying, hey, Timmy's down the well this way.  It's ridiculous. Why even? And like, he's going to die on literally every hill for this film, but like he must have been like, oh man. Yes. The creatures were perfect. I'm going to say it. Yeah, but he said dramatic. He didn't say plot resolution. He didn't say that they resolved the problem. They were dramatic. Right. I don't think he knew what that meant.  Pick out random literary term. Use it. Yeah. It really took risks.   It's just a risk if there's someone down at the bottom or not. It's just so bold. So new. They broke new ground. I think I covered who I said this before too today, but it's just like, there's a film called, you know, Star Wars episode nine. Luke does his taxes and it's just in a room and he's just doing his taxes. Like the film was risky. That was pretty risky. I have to admit. Yeah, that was risky. I agree. We've never seen the side of Luke before. Yeah. It's risky peeing into the wind because the wind might shift. It's true. It's true. Like Luke takes a break from taxes to eat like a bag of potato chips. He's just like, you know, I didn't like that one.  It's brilliant. Oh man, imagine being this far gone. We are just like every single tiny detail is just the best thing ever. Everything's perfect. Must defend film. Must defend film. Creatures are so hot. They're all insane. What's going on? Which will all subtly weaved into the main story. Even the wildlife in this movie had dramatic purpose. The film actually took risks. Something that we begged Ryan Johnson to do. We saw good guys fighting each other for a change. Yeah, OK. If it's my birthday and someone asks, hey, Rags, what do you want for your birthday? And I say, surprise me. Like I don't want like to open up a present. And they're like, slugs. Well, they literally just punch you in the face. They're like, yeah, but you didn't see that coming. Yeah, there's just like a fist inside. It springs up and hits me in the face. And now you'll remember it forever. Yeah, it wasn't that punch in the face. You have to admit, like everyone's standing around and going, that was a risky gift. I hope you have to appreciate that. And everyone clapped. But I like that he cited good guys fighting each other. This is a thing to celebrate. It doesn't matter what the context is. Just good guys fighting each other. That's that's great. Johnson to do. We saw good guys fighting each other for a change. We even saw good guys fighting alongside bad guys. And although the film. Yeah, again, context though, if we could only have the way the way that this happened was, oh, man, like this argument is no different than me saying it is a Star Wars film. It has lightsabers. It has Jedi like, yes. What? Can we get more specific please fighting each other for a change? We even saw good guys fighting alongside bad guys. And although the film managed to pack an insane amount of crowd pleasing Star Wars emotes, that did not the BBA bit. Just wait a second. Did he say, did he say all these things about expectations not being met? So what expectations do you have about the Star Wars genre or instance of Star Wars movies and how is that not any different than people's expectations that they wanted from a Star Wars movie? How do you be crowd pleasing while simultaneously being unpredictable and risky? Exactly. Very confusing here. So it looks like this is just everything that's good is in this film. Even if they contradict each other, it's like, no, it's just has it all. Sacrifice, it's deep subtext about failure and survival. Along with some subtext, subtext, it's failure, survival, failure is not subtext about survival.  It's not it's they're they're on the run because they're getting they got pummeled because of their incompetence. That's just your opinion, man. I think that everybody succeeded in this film, even the people who died. They, you know, they just exceeded differently to what you consider to be the standards for succeeding. That's all the sense.  You've been anist. Surprisingly, dark and complex character arcs that went right over people's heads just like the rebel blockade. Oh, why don't you just explain them to us? Then a wise master. Well, what's the rebel blockade? Oh, wait, did he say one? Hang on, let's just play it again. Dark and complex character arcs that went right over people's heads just like the rebel blockade. Luke and Kyle. Yeah, what is he talking about? Well, rebel blockade blockade. Pretty cyber. It has to be like just a quick little joke. Problem is, he talks the same. So it's kind of hard to tell the rebel blockade. I don't recall that. Well, it's almost an oxymoron because how would they have a blockade considering they're the rebels? You know what I mean? It's like he means that he means the rebel blockade runner flying over our heads in the original. No, no, no. What what he means is that there is no rebel blockade. So everything that didn't really exist. His joke is deeper than the last jet. We can. Oh, this is so bad. That did not sacrifice its deep subtext about failure and survival, along with some surprisingly dark and complex character arcs that went right over people's heads just like the rebel blockade. Luke and Kylo had no relationship in the last film. It was all just exposition. We didn't see their dynamic. I agree. And we barely saw it here. We just see them shouting at each other. Do you love the bit where he's like he like makes fun of him at one point, like he's playing with Kylo like the dialogue isn't. It's not really anything. We can't really work with it.  Well, I failed you.  No, no, this is a Jedi. I'll be fine. It's like, OK, like this is the result of their dynamic. We don't get to see their dynamic.  And many people wondered how the hell somebody could turn bad under the supervision of Luke. Well, the last Jedi answers. Yeah, we don't get to know. We don't know. There's no answer for that. We see Luke attack a guy when he's sleeping. That's it. Come up with one. And he just slaughters all of his students for whatever reason. Yeah, because Kylo was clearly the victim in that scenario.  That's another thing that was never sat right with me. It's like you'd think he'd run away because he's confused at his master trying to murder him.   A question and reveals that Luke is actually much more responsible for Ben Solo's turn to Kylo Ren than we thought. And all because he was just trying to prevent it. Now, whoever thinks Luke wouldn't do this, this is actually him following his Jedi training by abandoning all attachment. Whoa, you want me?  Yeah, as we know, Luke was always very much interested in following the Jedi training. That was always his his biz. I never get a Jedi training of don't be too emotionally attached to something.   That was because he didn't care about anything anymore. It was no only logic, no emotional attachments. Yeah, you have to go and sneak into your nieces or any other family member's sleeping room with a lightsaber and follow your Jedi training and, you know, peer into his mind and have an inkling of the dark side. And then you outright murder them. That's pretty much what you do back to the prequels. And Yoda is like, I've sensed another problem with the force. Another sith who's young.  Him and base would do two up to a family that like, I'm sorry. The right wing death squads. We're not emotional about this. It's completely detached, but that will be another Palpatine right there. Like, OK. Do nothing he did. Murder him, we must. Jedi Obi-Wan wanted Luke to murder his own father.  Yeah. And then he didn't. What do we do? Do we? I don't understand this progression. He's talking about this document. It's very straight. Jedi really messed up. I'll just pause for a second. Look, Obi-Wan tells Luke he must kill Darth Vader. True. But Darth Vader is a dark lord of the Sith responsible for murdering countless Jedi masters and plunging the galaxy into darkness.     That's it.  And he doesn't even kill Darth Vader. That's the important detail. Did you drink the last of the blue milk, Kylo? I left it in the fridge and now it's gone. I mean, it looks like he looks into Kylo's future and he sees all the death and stuff. And then Kylo sees him and he's like, did you see why that happened?  And Kylo's just like holds up a mirror.  That was real long. Well, I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock for your lessons. You're sorry about this, by the way. I just sleepwalk weird. Sorry about this. You woke up for his own father.  Then the emperor has already won. That would have been difficult to explain to Han. I love that he would have watched this scene and been like, how can I twist this to match the last Jedi? How much do I have to completely flip this around to make it make sense? He's like, Ryan, you're not making my job easy. Well, good thing he didn't do it. But this is what the Jedi did when they saw Sith Lord. They thought that if you don't kill them, you'll join them. Yeah, they remember in the prequels when they were like, we shouldn't train Anakin because he's like emotional and stuff. And then they did anyway.  There we go. Problem solved. Makes this mistake right here. At this point in the story, Kylo is just Ben Solo, Luke's nephew and student.  What's the connection? Oh, OK, he's his best friend's son. OK, OK, he's his sister's son. All right, he's OK. He's the bloodlines of the two families put together that he's been forced to look after, not only in terms of a family, but also trained as a student. OK, there's a little bit of a connection there, I guess. It's not quite as strong as a father.  And no, no counseling him. Yeah, they obviously know each other. That's something they obviously know each other like you'd know your uncle. I mean, no, no chats over blue milkshakes about cutting out the negativity. I mean, no sending him to Bible camp to pray away than a.  He was what I actually want to see that now in the film. Like Luke just woke up and he was just bored. He was looking around. He started looking at the heads of all his students and one of them was just like running around really happy in a field of posies. He's like, oh, that's nice. And he's like, let's check out Kylo's. And it just plays the sea where he kills hard.  Jesus Christ. Especially if they're your dad, the fact that Luke chose not to murder his father was him redefining what it means to be a Jedi. Whoa. Gonna have to have to say no to that one. Just give a small disagree. Just a small disagree. Act that he chose not to murder his nephew was him taking the final stand against the Jedi ways. You know what's funny? If you like extrapolate what he's saying here, like, so the Jedi emotionless and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, you could have made a movie out of that, but this isn't even what this film did.  He just talks about how the Jedi allowed the Sith to rule. They allowed Palpatine to exist. They trained Darth Vader.  I don't think he ever says that. Well, he lit up his lightsaber because of instinct. And that's not what the Jedi teach. They teach you how to control your feelings and to think things through and never react emotionally. So no, he's actually acting properly, not killing him. That's actually, yeah, you're right. He does, he even admits in the film that it was a fleeting, like, emotional moment. So you don't even, not even support in your own theory here, Mr. Lee. But it was too late. And when he realized Kylo murdered his students, that was the last straw for him. That was the last straw as we decided to run away and kill himself. Just find you gone too far. That's it, Kylo.  Oh, you know how much paperwork it's going to cost me. All the parents, they came away to Jedi school.  So you did sign it. No more, Mr. Nice Uncle. Death by Lightsaber is when you sign the waiver, this was an acceptable risk. Here's your name at the bottom. You sign for Kylo because he's under 18. He got through all of them, except one that got stuck in the mail and he just got so depressed he just went off to a different island to kill himself. He was like, I can't deal with this shit, man. It's just... Have you ever run a day camp? There's the assumption that some of these guys actually became the Knights of Wren or whatever the hell that story is supposed to be about. Well, we haven't done enough time to look into that. We were busy on Canto Bight. That was the important subplot.  That could have actually been a thing.  Canto Bight, Canto Bight. I could analyze this scene forever. It's just so deeply layered. Oh, man. Oh, man. You see, Luke's like an ogre. It's like a 10-second scene is so deeply layered. It's like, yeah, you're writing for it. You're inventing all of the things that it means because you've got nothing. You've got to work with anything. Christ. I'm sorry for this guy. I could analyze this scene forever. It's just so deeply layered. Was Luke's premonition that Kylo would turn bad the actual future? Or was Luke getting a distorted vision from the dark side of the force? Or from Snoke? Why would that be a... Is that a thing that happens? This is speculation. This is... He's closed off from the force. This is the thing he criticized everyone else for doing. Maybe Snoke was being false visions from space. He criticized... He's literally going like, did Snoke send the visions? Do the visions mean this?  Like, what are you doing? Waiting for episode nine to confirm this shit, maybe? But then he's gonna say, oh, I was the first one who came up with this back in 2018. It's just gonna open with Kylo and Luke, even though Luke's dead now. He's just gonna be sitting at a table and Kylo's like, okay, so this is what happened. And they go through all the films and explain all of the things that don't make sense. And then it ends. We're like, well, there's risky as an episode nine to have them just sit there and talk about it, you know. And Kylo's like, yeah, it was actually Snoke that sent the vision.  That's how it makes sense. That's how it's deeply layered. Any one of those could be true. And since we've actually seen Kylo murder Han, one could argue that turning evil was just his destiny and it's not even Luke's fault. And even though Luke- I think Luke may have had a hand at it. He thought it was destiny. Yeah, didn't he just say it was kinda Luke's fault anyway?  It was his destiny that he was evil. It's like, oh, okay. Kylo had no choice. He is just doomed to the fate that whatever force had prescribed for him. It's not even his fault. He has no choice in the matter. He's just gonna be evil. He was probably like Luke's best friend. He was like the nicest guy. And all of a sudden, boom, I'm gonna start killing everyone now.  He's just a robot following his programming. That's a really great message, by the way, that we don't get to choose anything. Yeah. Yeah, if fate is a theme here, it was our fate to have our franchise die with the last Jedi, basically. I mean, Episode IX will be the funeral. Just it'll be the red tape part of it where we just have to sign some stuff to make sure that it gets the death it needs. Turning evil was just his destiny and it's not even Luke's fault. And even though Luke was Mr. Perfect in Return of the Jedi, What? What? What? No. What? I don't even know, we'll just let him go on. He was still tempted by the dark side and even channeled it to get the upper hand on Vader. Why does he say that?  That's not what you've been saying this whole time. And by channeling, he means just wailing away on his lightsaber. Is that what he meant? No, that's the dark side. And you could see his channel meter on the lightsaber is good. Oh. But this is one of the strongest, darkest, most honest scenes in the entire franchise. If you say so. He's just stating it, guys. It's just another moment of him going, this is just this now, OK? That was a scene that was played three times and we didn't know exactly what happened. That's not the clearest scene. Like what? It's the opposite of what's clear. We have no idea how that even got to that point. Like what were they doing before this? Did Kylo show any kind of, you know, can we do what were the relationship? Nothing. No, we just see this. OK. Luke just wanted to prevent Kylo Rant, but he accidentally created it. Yeah, so deep, dude. That is so deep. I'm I'm deepened by hearing that in an attempt to prevent a thing, you cause a thing. When is that even as anyone ever come up with that? Is that like a common thing? No, I don't think so. It's brand new. Just said Kylo's fate was to be evil, so I guess he just can't pick. This video is very good. You have every every sound to be right. You know, this was this video is a scatter shot and he's just like, one of these arguments is right. First, first make an argument, then use the exact same argument to prove your point. That's phenomenally tragic and it perfectly explains what was laid out in the Force Awakens. Also, this theme of the false future pops up again between Ray and Kylo as they start to see each other's supposed future that neither one. Yeah, literally not seeing the future is so surface level.  I'm pretty sure you're a good guy anyway. I know you're bad now, but you're going to be a good guy. I'm pretty sure you're conflicted. I know that much.  OK, anyway, on to Snoke. Thanks. That was so deep and based on character. Good guy call. Griezon, is Kylo turning good or is Ray turning bad?  The idea that that's all we've got is like, does one good? Does one bad? Is one does when was Ray ever bad? You know, the bit where she held his hand. That was her being evil, I guess. No, Ray has never ever made a choice that is remotely negative.  Jeez, that false future thing is a really good stroke that Ryan Johnson also used in his film, Looper. Yeah, Looper didn't make a lot of sense either. So I'm travel. Yeah, here we go. The dynamic between present and future Joe is the passive Bruce Willis, actually the future for Joseph Gordon, please stop and make a point instead of just going, you know, if you think about it, this is why it's a good job. Is this how it is? Is that how it is? Maybe or maybe not. I can't say this is perfect. By the way, the best result possible or can he change it? The fact that Kylo likes Ray is something different. What's what? I pretty sure Vada, like Luke, just how is having emotions toward a person different? I don't understand this. Luke likes his sister. Oh my God, it's so different. That's different compared to these two unrelated people. People normally think about their sisters. No. People are related like each other. What just hate each and every one of the good guys, but their bond made both characters. How do you say that unironically when you're dealing with Vader and Luke as the primary like back and forth? Like he's like, we've never seen a villain like a hero. It's like that's like the main one. If you argue the hero of the prequels was Anakin. Again, you've got Palpatine really liked Anakin. And the thing too, how cliched is it for the villain to be like, we are not so different if you want to die. No, it's like it's a geloquine when they say that now. It's unprecedentedly amazing and you don't get it.  You understand that we've gotten plenty of villains who just hate each and every one of the good guys, but their bond made both characters a lot more dimensional and allowed for what? Well, remember how he was like, hey, I may be a monster, but Luke made me that way. And then she liked him from that point on. That was the dude.  Loves him the right way. Basically it, yeah. I have desires that are unconventional. You know, I like to dabble in the good and the bad at the same time. I are stakes for both of them. We didn't know who was going to turn the hero. I love how he thinks that's a good thing that we have no idea what these characters may or may not do. Like we can't guess. We're just like, I don't know, they could do anything. Yeah, there's there's no consistent message here. It's also just scattershot. There's no direction to it. They're just doing stuff. I mean, it's a good it's a good in a way like it reflects his video, you know, the film. It's like nothing makes any sense. No consistency. It's like, yeah, I like it. Oh, or the villain. Now that is being on the edge of your seat. What if you say so? It's so exciting because I wanted to leave. But oh, dear, who is going to turn the hero or the villain? Now that is being on the edge of your seat. Wow, getting a little seductive. But this one, OK, oh, I want to anybody really wondering whether or not Ray was going to turn. I mean, I guess that's what you'd say. Virgin, if if she did turn, I would have just been confused. So it'd been like, why? Yeah, I mean, I don't know why you were good. And yeah, I was about to say what's your motivation for doing any of this anyway? Like, why are you here at all? Why are you a character who is doing all these things?  And then you might find yourself asking, wait, yeah, why would you do the good thing? Why would you do any of the things? Who are you? Ray? Yeah, who are you again? Seen when Ray and Kylo first discover that they're now connected through the force is easily one of the most shocking and innovative moments in this entire series. If you say so, Lee, if you say so, that's how it works for your entire video. You just say it's the thing that it's the same. So shocking, shocking. What a strange word. Like, when I first saw that, I was just kind of confused. Like it was the way it was shot. It just didn't, I don't know, it just didn't work. I was like, OK, it didn't work for me in the room here. What are you saying right now? Or but a lot of people like the simplicity angle of it being just, you know, back and forth, different places. But for me, I was a little bit confused. I was like, how does this work? What do they see? Just imagine Storm walking by, he's got his hand all extended and he's talking to himself. Like, are you doing OK, Mr. K? You all right?  I could have swore Doomcock was going to say something. I heard something. Oh, I was just, yeah, I was just rambling on. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, I was just because of the delay. I didn't want to cut you off or anything. Are you auditioning? One of the big messages that's communicated in the original trilogy is to love your family and be accepting of them no matter how shitty they are. But the whole message of this new trilogy. I don't even know that was really the message. I don't even think it was a family thing.  I mean. I just would argue it's a bit more complicated than that. I think it's not it's not about it.  It's no Luke actually saw good in his.   Or you cannot possibly be a complete bad guy, which is part of the problem. It's like he declares that Kylo is bad when he hasn't even done a bad thing yet. So he's got like no reason other than he read his mind, apparently. It's kind of a douche in girls. I mean, I've not seen it. So, you know, and I don't know if Luke has seen girls. So. Like, can we confirm that in the novels? Did Luke Skywalker watch girls? Remotely. Through a force projection has now become. That's what killed it. If you have an abusive boyfriend, you should not try to change him because he is not your family and you're just on different paths. How is that? OK. One, how is that the opposite message? Those are two different messages. Two, that's not what happens in the film. She tries to change him and he nearly does. And then she decides against changing with him, which, by the way, when he said, I want to go against the Republic and the First Order, that is change for Kylo. That's not not change, considering he was a full evil guy. So, again, confusing.  She was just like, pretty sure he's a good guy. Oh, he's not a good guy. Like, what lesson is there? She was just wrong about Kylo. OK. Even though they consistently back and forth that, it's like, oh, Kylo could be a good guy. Oh, he kills that old man at the beginning of Force Awakens. Like, he's definitely bad. Like, no, he might be good. He kills Han Solo. Oh, he's definitely bad. No, he might be good. And it's like, no, he killed Leia on Aquar. He's definitely bad. It's like, no, you might be good. No, he's definitely bad. Definitely bad now. Yeah, the boyfriend thing is weird because they never really established a strong relationship and then she tried to stick by it or anything like that. So I don't know where he's going with that. That whole bit was just nonsense. Yeah. The original trilogy say, believe in your family. The second trilogy says, don't trust angry boyfriends. It's like, what do those points have to do with each other? You got to let that fool go. But that's a pretty good successor to the original theme. Wait, what was the original theme? The original theme was believe in your family no matter how shitty they are, according to him. I thought the original theme was that failure is inevitable. No, no, no. So the original theme in the original trilogy, he said, was family is shitty. Just believe in them that this one is your boyfriend is bad. Leave that guy that is like apparently that's a complete reversal of why I'm glad because Kylo was raised boyfriend. Yes, I'm glad they showed that in a slow speed space chase. That really shows off that was the vehicle they put they needed for the story. OK, they needed it. Well, that's what love is like. Love is like love is a battlefield. Love is like two ships slowly going through space. In space. I'm fixed. So many flaws of the previous films. Midechlorians dead, the Jedi. OK, no, Midechlorians would still work. FYI, it would just mean that Ray had loads of them. That's all that's all you cover with that. So now overlooking the rise of Darth Sidious. Ignore. What? Lay it in. What? Wait a minute, let's hear that again to the original theme. This film fixed so many flaws of the previous films. Midechlorians dead, the Jedi overlooking the rise of Darth Sidious. Acknowledged, Leia kissing Luke made into something normal. General Hux being one dimension. OK, so let's tackle the we did the Midechlorians one. He's wrong. The Jedi overseeing the thing of Darth Sidious. He said acknowledged that's acknowledged in the prequels. They actually say it.  Then they all tragically die because the Jedi didn't like that's the story. I don't understand how that would. Yeah, it doesn't fix anything. He just makes a statement. It's like this happened last movie. OK. And it's a problem because it's very ignorant. He basically says like the Jedi are bad because Palpatine rose. And it's like what you you think the Jedi wanted that. Like that's a reason against the Jedi that that happened. You realize that they didn't they did everything they could with the knowledge they had. Yes, they were bloated and crappy. But you're saying it like they did it on purpose.  They actually got made as horribly. Lots of them. But apparently his book didn't have that part in it. I don't know. Leia kissing Luke made into something normal. General Hux being one dimensional and serious. Now he's a joke. Hux being one dimensional and too serious. Now he's a joke. Apparently that's fixing him. Whoa. Yes. I mean, it just slots right into his hole. He declares it. Therefore, it's true rhetoric. So sure, man, he hasn't. Don't argue it. Just just say it. Oh, Dameron being too perfect. Now he fucks up and gets people killed. Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus Christ.  No, maybe I don't know. Maybe I kind of wish he didn't at this point. Yeah.  This is the thing that people, including Leia, just not going to understand. Let's play the film. Leia says everybody come back and then Po goes, OK, he flies his X-wing over.  No bombers anyway. It's like, oh, well, that's lame. And then the dreadnought shows back up because obviously it would have not been destroyed.  Pretty much so that was a 10 minute film. That was fun. What's happening in episode nine? I guess it'll be Ray and Luke because that's all we got left. Well, and Chewie. You're demoted. The fact that Luke's entire message. Do you miss the part where Leia said he's allowed to go back into his X-wing and command the fleet? Do you remember that bit? What do we do? We just ignore that because it doesn't suit this narrative. Yeah. Well, look, you guys are really being pretty hard on this video. Let me tell you something. Proof is for pussies. Just listen to his wisdom. All right. Is he a space wizard? Is that why we should listen to him? He's on a higher plane than we'll ever grasp. You're inside knowledge. Act that Luke's entire message to Ray is to get over the myth and the legend of Luke Skywalker, the only man that matters. That was, she learned about him like two days before. Not only that, but he does save the day. So I just wish he wrong. So I'm kind of on the cusp of a sneeze here. And I don't know. I don't know which way it's going to go. All right. False alarm. But I was thinking like the timeline of these movies, you remember the timeline of these movies is really actually small. Yeah. This is arguably a day later, this film from the other one. Like she learned about this guy like yesterday, the day before. And she's like, can you just skywalk? I thought he was a myth. I was correcting our flaw as fans for obsessing over how Luke is depicted as if he's Jesus and Muhammad incarnate. Holding him. Yeah, weird that we would expect him to, you know, be wise and also fight for the people he loves. It's almost like we expected that from the other films or something. I don't know. Well, even the extended universe, pretty much put him on a pedestal as well. So all the hardcore fans who love the mythos, they're like, yeah, he's going to do amazing stuff. Well, yeah, because to these assholes that we want Luke to be Luke. Pretty much. We want Luke to be consistent with the awesome character that he has been established to be over three films.  It's a wet sock crawling into a volcano. That's what Luke should be, let's be honest. We're so resistant to change. Also, Luke ain't no Muhammad. Ray is way too old for him. This is the silence of like, yes, he just said that. Because Muhammad was a pedophile. Oh. Up to way too high of a standard that no living human being can relate to. When really 30 years later in the Star Wars universe, once that myth blew over and people wised up over time, he's just a dude who had the force. He's just a dude who had the force. Nothing special. Amazing. Just a guy. Not like a galaxy wide. What was it? Luke's guy, face, Lune, Lenny's guy, something. I can't even remember his name. He was so like mundane. He's not really a part of the original films. He's not really. Duke, Duke, ground runner. That was definitely it. That was the one. Eyes up over time.  But that similar message about getting over your idealizations. Yeah, that's the Luke's not special. Anybody can be a force user like Luke. Getting over. That's it, anybody. Yeah, it's like the Big Lebowski with a lightsaber.  Okay, so here's the thing. I can't believe I'm going to have to do this. We're going to have to remember the LL Cool J or whatever this guy's name is. Have you ever seen Ratatouille? What's the message of Ratatouille? Not everybody can become a great chef, but a great chef can come from anywhere. Even a rat. Even a rat. Even Duke, ground runner. Even so, Luke Skywalker. Not everybody can become the great Jedi that Luke Skywalker is, but a great Jedi can come from anywhere. Beautiful. Thank you, Disney Pixar for making Ratatouille. Yeah, I mean, they've come up with two really great quotes. The other one, of course, being from the Incredibles. Every one where nobody is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Exactly. Where's Jack Jack? But that similar message about getting over your idealizations is also conveyed by Rose to Finn after he marvels at the visual splendor on Kanto Byte just before she reminds him that underneath all that Gorge Man-bad capitalism-bad- Just before she reminds him that this place is a casino. There's rich people here. They benefit from literally the Odin. Oh my God, they are all really orange. Yeah, it's a kind of weird selection, but the camera focuses hard on like the old Mr. Banes looking dude. Mr. Banes. Yeah, a lot of some people are like, how is this anti-capitalism?  They are morally ambiguous. They don't care who wins the war. They're just benefiting from the fact that they can exploit a market. And so the film is like, these people are evil. And I remember being like, well, they're not really evil. They're just not good or bad. They're just nothing. They just, they provide weapons for people. You're like, yes, but that fuels the war. They're evil. They make money. They're like, oh, okay. Okay, we're delving a little bit too hard into politics now. But the film doesn't stick to it too long, I guess. No, it's not. And look at these aliens. Look how boring the aliens are compared to the aliens we've had in the original trilogy.  I cannot stand it. You don't like orange guy wearing mask? Is that not? Is that not? I've seen that in like Metal Storm and things from the 80s and the humongous and fucking, you know, road warrior. Come on. This is nothing. Alja, there's a dark underbelly of greed, addiction, and people get... I'm sorry, greed and addiction automatically because Casino can nobody gamble ethically. Is that not possible now? I gambled ethically.  You're unethical. You're greedy. I'm like, oh, I just wanted to play a game, but okay. Well, Kylo gambled once and his uncle almost killed him for it. It's like the idea that this major league I hides behind little like slot machines whenever someone use them, he goes, you're evil.  Sorry. Gambling is a sin against God. Watch the last Jedi. Like, okay. Greedy with their nostalgia. And then when someone says... What? I'm sorry. What? What kind of...  What was that? What kind of jump was that? He went from greedy with, with spitting buddy and gambling to greedy with nostalgia? The shot at us. It was a shot at us. It dressed up like in Star Wars costumes as kids. That's what it was.  Oh, I definitely get that. I'm saying how the hell did he jump to that from where he was? Like how... What kind of just weird-ass connection? Addiction and people get greedy with their nostalgia. Greedy with nostalgia. What does that even mean that we... Add for liking what we liked. Basically. I mean, Jesus Christ. We're at addicts, basically. He's saying we're addicted to nostalgia. How is he any different? Like gamblers in the arena. He likes the way this went. And it's also a continuation of what he saw when he was a kid, potentially. It's just like, what makes it... We didn't like it. That doesn't mean that we wanted our nostalgia satisfied. We just thought it was terribly written. It's like, you didn't.  And then when someone says that Ryan Johnson ruined Star Wars or erected their childhood, you see that right there? That's a frickin' wreck childhood. This whole scene is just one joke. What? What? Oh my God. How is that even remotely connected? It's like... It's a child. Someone says like, I hold the O.T. in my head as this wonderful thing. And then these guys make these movies and now the O.T. is stained because the story doesn't end there. It carries on and every one of my favorite heroes gets grounded to do it. And so, yes. We'll see. It affects...    These are not the characters that we know. They're not behaving consistently. This is not a consistent universe anymore.  But it's not. It's a consistency of canon.  You want to see a real ruined child? This child in this film has a bad child.   Did he watch his own video? I guess. Just as that Ryan Johnson ruined Star Wars or he wrecked their childhood. You see that right there? That's a frickin' wrecked childhood. This whole scene is just one giant symbol. Stop enjoying this. Most people who saw this. What? What was that clip for? A symbol of what? What's happening? What are you talking about? Even the ones that liked it did not get the point of this Kanto bite side stroke. Oh, I got the point, dude. It was loud and clear and boring and pointless. The point was pointless. It's like, yeah, there's horrible things going on under the surface, but, you know, it didn't really matter to me because I don't even like the surface of Kanto bite. I thought it was ugly as hell, but I guess that's down to everybody's individual taste. The messages about how the rebellion... Okay, so yeah, this'll be fun. You know how she shows the ring? Oh, wait, if you've got to go, dude, do you want to tell my audience why they should subscribe to Doomcock? 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Because man, it's definitely the speciality. There's some people who are like, God, another Star Wars thing. It's like, we haven't done Star Wars in a while, actually. Like specifically on EFAP. But people feel like it's well covered. But I mean, this video is just fantastic. We had to see these counter-arguments, guys. I mean, the level of your intellectual acumen in dissecting this stuff is priceless. And it's just been a pleasure to witness it and to be a part of it. Thank you, guys, so much, seriously. Yeah. I haven't seen your channel before, but I'm going to check it out now. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that very much, you guys.  So thank you, guys. And have a good rest of the show, man. I will go back and hear the rest of your dissection. Thanks, Ed. You were great. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Bye-bye, you guys. And then there were four. Yes, Hale Doomcock. And there you go. I'm pretty sure he was one of our highest suggested guests because of the clear passion he has for despising this movie. It's unparalleled. So check him out, obviously, if you'd like to see more. And for us, we shall continue on with having us giving the explanation of why Kantobite is so good. What I was going to say quickly, as you guys remember, right, the narrative for this is that the Republic have been in power for 30-plus years or whatever. And then the First Order destroyed them and have now started to, you know, maybe take over. It's been a day, so they can't really have done much. And Kantobite has been a running success for this long. These slaves and these people are all in this position while the Republic's in power. And so when Rose shows the ring of like, hey, guys, you know, we're the good guys, I just find it amazing that the kid wasn't like, you guys are the reason we're here.  Like, we've been like this for years.   Like, do you know what I mean? It's a little nebulous. So what exactly rebellion has to do at this planet, let alone this city? I mean, we don't know the scope of the reach of the Republic. And considering that they are associating these rich people with being neutral or at least being profitable, it's kind of like, is this bad or is this good? Is all this money good for them? Are they happy to even be alive? I don't know. Yeah, they clearly haven't really taken any sides. I mean, or well, not clearly, but it's really not implied that they have taken any particular side. That's kind of what I'm getting at here. I don't get it. It's like, can't abide the result of the First Order, although it's like, not really.  Maybe they've been going on for ages and we just came in at an awkward time. I don't know. So the whole thing is confusing. I don't get how any of it works. Why is Will building? Will building bad. Ray and Finn were together for the entire adventure and this one, they're split up. Ray is obviously being tasked with the most important mission in the galaxy. Why? Anyone want to ask why? Yeah, I was like, who are you? I love the idea that Leia sent her. She was like, yes, you should go. I could just see Ray be like, but I want to go home. Like that's my whole deal. In the first film, I just wanted to go to Jakku.  You can't take an escape pod. We need them. She's like, oh, okay. So who should we send instead?  And he's like, yeah, I can go see Luke, I guess. What does Ray have to do with anything? It's like, I don't know. She's just, she's the protagonist. That's how it works. Ray does the thing. Leia already gets spaced at this point when she's walking up and like seeing her or nah, is she fine? Spaced? Yeah, does she get like launched out into space? Well, this meeting was happening because you can send Leia. I mean, that's, I guess because Leia is the general, you could argue she should stay. But I mean, I would have loved to have seen Leia go to this island. Wouldn't that have been amazing? Oh, that would have been amazing. Oh my God.  Yeah, to have Luke be like, don't you understand Leia the Jedi?   And he's like, oh, okay. You are coming back right now and you're going to fix this. And he's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry, okay. Trying to get Luke back into the fight, but Finn is off doing the exact opposite. A random far flung goose chase into territory he should not be in. Doing something that seems to be a useless, aimless and partially failed endeavor. I'm glad you agree. Why are these clips playing? We're on the right video? Oh yeah. Why is that ring a thing? That's the funny thing. We never, it's not like you need a setup for a ring, but I found it amusing just because of the fact that like I said, why would this kid care who's in power?  Yeah, because if anything, he was raised and born and his parents were raised and born under the rule of the Republic and they got themselves into the situation.  He finds out yesterday that that very government has just been toppled and he's like, oh, shit, really? And then these people come in, these people come in like, we're going to reset it. You'd be like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not digging it. Just as important as everything else that has happened, even though they failed to get the help of the code breaker, this whole excursion was fine because there's a backup code break. There's another one in their cell with all he needs. Oh, that's good. Good thing that happened. Hey, it makes sense, totally. Oh, Jesus. You know what? I feel too guilty at this point. I need to read some of these super chats because a lot of them have come in. So if you guys need to get a drink or you need to go to a toilet, it would be a great time now. Mom, get the camera. Mummy, mummy. That's, I don't know how to respond to that one. Oh no, I've watched this video. You're in for a treat. I've we've definitely had a treat. Yes, time for Major League to get destroyed. Hope you guys have fun with this one. Hopefully YouTube doesn't take away the super chat money from y'all. Well, you've got to, as long as you say nice things, I think that's how it works, right? I'm not 100% on that one. EFAP is more as ent moot. It's very long and its participants aren't being hasty. Ent moot. Hello, Dakota. How do you do? Luke is a molester. George Lucas always planned it.  I wouldn't go as far as molester. Like murder is fine. There's lots of child murder in Star Wars. It's all good. It's okay. If The Last Jedi wasn't a bad movie, then why did Johnson agree a while ago on Twitter with the fan who wanted to reboot The Last Jedi? I don't know what that is, but as far as I know, Ryan Johnson does defend this film regularly. Obviously, why wouldn't he? Right? He did make it. Major Lee, the prime example of how to get a career based on strawman. I mean, there are a couple of strawmans in here, but there's loads of just nothing. He just declares things are good. That's like the most common thing I'm finding with this video. There's not many arguments. It's just, this was just great. If you don't like it, you just don't understand. Fallout 4 is a better Star Wars film than The Last Jedi. I agree. I don't even know what the story of Fallout 4 is and I know it's going to be better. Star Trek 2009 is a better Star Wars film than The Last Jedi. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Definitely enjoyed it more. Rags, dream, stream, four men with him in the middle. I don't think he denied that. Braveheart is better Star Wars movie than The Last Jedi. There's just every movie is better than The Last Jedi. Say raggle, fraggle. I don't know why you needed me to say that. Thoughts on people treating J.J.A. as if he is the new Spielberg? He's not, I don't know. I didn't, I didn't realize people were. I know that I wouldn't. J.J. Abrams is his own sort of beast, I would say. This is not quite a Spielberg. What up motherfuckers? Or motherfudges?  Keep up the good work. Well, thank you Adam. Very kind. No arguments in his video. That's the subversion. Oh, well, yeah. Anyone catch that new movie? Overlord Thoughts I Was Wanted By? I haven't seen it, but I've heard about it. Overlord is the new J.J. Abrams film. I don't know if either of you three have seen it. I saw the Red Letter of Media review, so I'm probably going to watch it. Oh, did they recommend it? Oh, yeah. It was a great, it actually was one of those weird Nazi sort of stories, but done very intelligently. So imagine a heist movie, but with people infiltrating this lab and it's the enemies are Nazis and all the hijinks that gets in. It's a pretty good classic story of Wolfenstein. A lot of people are saying, oh, it isn't made by J.J. It's produced by J.J. Abrams, right? Yeah. Pretty sure it's connected to him. And yeah, people are saying it's good. So perhaps check it out. Ray equals Anakin reincarnated would have made sense. IMO could have used old EU material to explain it. It would explain a lot about her like hating sand. I don't know. Does Ray hate sand? I'm pretty sure she's okay with sand. I imagine that she'd be tolerant of it at this point. She seems to have the tools to get around in it just fine. So it probably just doesn't really think too much about it. It's kind of like a deep sea diver setting. He hates water. I would be more interested in Ray describing whether or not she's a fan of sand than watching The Last Jedi again though. Like literally just a room. She's just like, sand is, that's coarse. I guess it's rough.  The characterizer is just a little better. Who killed Captain Alex as a better stars move than The Last Jedi? Why is the title of this dream in quotation marks? Well, because that's the name of his video. So if I didn't have it in quotations, you guys might be like, why are you saying The Last Jedi is amazing?  Yeah. Breaking news. Disney High as Tommy Wiseau, Anakin and Schwarzenegger as Obi-Wan in The Revenge of the Sith 2. I would watch it. I would watch the hell out of that. I just watched your measured response to H. Balmageye for the third time and I wasn't bored. Beautiful. Never bored. And Hail Doomcock. So wait, they first complain of the canon, makes it to restricting for what they can do in the future. Another complaining that it's too open-ended. Just admit it, they're bad writers. Well, I mean, this video is very confusing in terms of what the actual point is. Predictability isn't bad. Certain rules of plot structure lend themselves to predictability. The most unpredictable things aren't automatically good. The most predictable things are often great. I mean... Yeah, sometimes people feel really like accomplished when they feel they've figured something out, like a detective story or something like that. People feel really accomplished when they guess it right. Yeah, and what you can do is the most obvious thing that's going to happen does end up happening, but the film made you think that maybe something else could happen along the way. Like the character is completely consistent, but there was like a thing we go, oh wait, but no, no, okay, yeah. Like it makes sense. Even if there were only two options, but they're both as likely, I mean... Yeah, that's another one. Hail my liege. Democratization of mediocrity, I think we found out Episode 9's name. Did he actually say that? Democratization of mediocrity? He... yeah, he de-do-cocked it. Oh, okay. I was just going to say, like, that's a lot of ways you could actually interpret what that means exactly. It's interesting. Call me crazy, I guess. Anakin from P.T. is Vader. That, yeah. It's a twist, though. Don't ruin it for everyone else. This video is what the Star Wars fandom needed and deserved. Well done.  Well, we've gone through nearly 11 minutes, and, like, this video is pretty terrible. Like, it's... there's barely any arguments. It's just... it's perfect for the people who love the film in that he's just saying the film is good, and then states aspects. A video in reverse of this would just be to take his script and replace Brilliant with Terrible every time he says it. Like, and you've got his video. Just as much substance, like, that's kind of where I'm getting at. Now, he predicted raised parents with nobody, so by his own standards, that would make it predictable and thus bad. No, it's not predictable if he predicts it. That's how it works. That is genius. Attacking someone while they're celebrating a great milestone on Twitter. Maybe he should look for his own pride, but I guess he flushed it long ago. What's the thing? I wonder if he'll celebrate his... thing on Twitter. I'll leave him alone, obviously, because, well, I wouldn't even know that he's doing it, but it's just like... it seems petty, doesn't it? Yeah, wouldn't it be pretty shitty if, like, he came up with a video that was, like, super, like, amazing, and it drew in, like, a very large audience, and, like, you know, why wouldn't he be happy about that?  Well, you see this. You see this sometimes. If you're successful, it's almost like success and having a large audience is inherently bad. Yeah. Do you see this comment? It's been posted a couple of times, so I guess I should acknowledge it. Um... Hi, Moorl, I love your channel, and I've long thought someone critically analyzing this terrible movie is great, but 11 months of negativity is enough.  Stop. I feel happy. So, number one, it's not been 11 months of negativity. I've covered a lot of different things. EFAP has covered The Last Jedi probably more than any other subject, but it's literally, like, four times, maybe, and most of the time it's just covering different arguments. And I wouldn't call it negativity. We're having... we're very positive. We have fun. We're making jokes. We bounce off things. It's all, you know, all happy and good, so if you don't like talking about The Last Jedi, I understand. I've got a friend of mine who comes on these podcasts, preferably when it's not The Last Jedi, because, for one, he's bored of talking about Star Wars, but he just doesn't like The Last Jedi enough to talk about it, which is absolutely fine, but I still like talking about writing, which is mainly what we do, you know? It's not like we say the same things over and over again. Every time we cover someone, they've got a new way of, like, surprising us in terms of their approach, because, like, you guys would never say that majorly and movie-ball, but the same beast would you? It's like, their approach, their styles, their methods of convincing an audience, and that's what makes this interesting, is the, because, like, we're gonna cover Sean, eventually, for his Last Jedi video, which I can already tell you, because I've seen half of it. It's, like, he has a whole different approach with The Last Jedi. So, you know, we did Spider-Man last time. It's not exactly The Last Jedi, you know? It's not exactly positive, either, because we were ripping on the video, so I don't know. It's, that's how you feel about it. But anyway, imagine if after DSI, DS1, DSI, it cuts back to Obi and his hut and then he dies. Would people go CESB? So, DSI's Star Wars Episode 4, I'm guessing? A new hope? I don't know. It cuts out as if he dies. Would people go CESB? Said this on the council, but you really helped, Mola. I'm not 100% sure of what that question is, I'm afraid, because I'm confused of what DSI is. Is that it? Do you guys have any DSI? No. No. Maybe someone in chat will pick that up. In canon, they say Luke is addicted to death sticks. That's why he's weird in The Last Jedi. Please educate yourselves before you judge quality of Disney's movies.  What am I, some death sticks? Yeah, sure, I'll take a few. I still like that bit.   Man, if it worked out well, you could save a lot of lives. You guys should watch Goblin Slayer instead. I've seen Episode 1. What about you guys? People have told me to do so. Haven't seen it. Yeah, I think the first episode was where they introduced how hardcore this sort of story is, and then it just sort of alleviates the fact that, okay, now it's going to be about the struggle of the protagonist trying to survive in this world where goblins are a thing and there's other creatures involved.  But there's still a lot of killing. DS-1 means Death Star-1, apparently. Imagine after Death Star-1, it cuts back to Obi-Wan and his hut, and then he dies. Would people go see Empire Strikes Back? So you're saying like, he does the same thing as Luke where instead of dying to Vader on the thing, it cuts to him meditating and then he fades away in his hut. I mean, would people go and see Empire Strikes Back? Probably, just to see what happens next, but that would be confusing as hell if he did that. It would be like, why the hell was Obi-Wan and his hut the whole time? Did he never touch anything? But okay, just be bizarre. But yes, I understand what you're saying now. Why destroy the EU in the first place? Throne Trilogy movies equal profit? I genuinely felt that way when I found out, like I got a synopsis of what the Throne Trilogy was and I was like, why the hell didn't they just make that into movies? It seemed like the smarter choice. I grew up in a part of the US where the 60s never died.  What, the film or the video? Kyla did nothing wrong, make the galaxy great again. Jack and Solo, Darth Kadeus kills Mara J. Later, FG Luke visits him and says they're still good in you. TLJ Luke thinks about killing Nephew in sleep. Or KK RJJJ in sequel trilogy. I understand. There's a lot of abbreviations there, but I follow. You have the Force. You have the Force. And you have the Force. Yes, but that was okay, you know, but like it's the being really good with it. That's the problem. You know, someone being able to move a pebble is fine. Or a broomstick. Well, it's a 40-minute, seven-minute video. If you all make it to the end, then we'll have a proper EFAP. There's no way we'll get to the end. Like, these people have lives. Skywalkers and Solos queers compared to Corleones. I mean, that's such a completely different... It's a completely different thing, dude. Nightmare never ends. Still shills defending this trash fire while Solo gets thrown under the bus. Thanks for keeping up the good fight. I mean, it's always fun to just check out the other side, you know, to see it's like... They think we're insane as this video is titled, so it's worth seeing why, I suppose. He sounds like he's talking about World of Warcraft expansion pack. He does a lot of inference, this guy. Like a lot of writing for the film, I felt.  What could possibly go wrong? 20 years later, the reign of Darth Broom Boy, the most brutal in the galaxy. I mean, he could be Anakin all over again. If Krait was a just deserted salt planet, how can nobody mind it? I mean, I don't even know what the... They said that there used to be a rebel base on there, right? So maybe they didn't mind some of it. I don't know, why would you mind salt? How does it even work? It's like red on the bottom. Then after a certain amount of time, it comes to the tarp and turns into salt. Is that what we're supposed to assume about the ecology? I don't know. Salt flats are a thing. It must be that, but on a planet. As a rookie, I rushed to know the difference between Legends and Canon. Canon is garbage. Group of issues made for the SJW agenda. Your thoughts on this? Bring back Legends? I don't know enough about it, I'm afraid. I don't know about Legends, yeah. I checked Wikipedia and I was wrong about FG Luke. He's still alive, but it's still something that Luke would have done. He saw the good. Absolutely. Are the people who died succeeding in escaping this dumps of fire? Oh, you mean like Han may have died, but at least he's dead now, so they can't continue to ruin. Why Rose didn't just tell Finn, if you go, I'm with you. Regardless of the resolution, it would have been the most dark romantic scene ever. Maybe, if she was like, I just wanted to die with you. That would have been a bit. I don't think the audience would have liked that. Reylo fans, the same kind of people who write love letters to serial killers. Well, apparently this guy wanted that bad. Ryan Johnson said in an interview, Luke and Rey's relationship is the beating heart of this film. I remember reading that. I really don't, I don't know where he's coming from with that. I would need a whole film for him to explain it. But Snow could already turned his heart. How, why, when, over years, weeks. We don't need to see that. It's not important how Kylo Ren went from being the son of Han Solo and Leia, being trained by Luke and who was turned away from them. That's not something you guys would want to see, is it? That's kind of boring, right? Yeah, things don't have to be exclusively like amazing and terrible. I mean, like you could have things that people want to see. That would be cool and also have them well written and consistent with Lord. Kylo thought his uncle was trying to touch him. That's a fair concern, I think. I was hoping Rey would turn to the dark and have romance with Kylo, like Raven and Leven and Bastilla. Or Bastilla, I'm not sure. But then Ryan subverted my expectations by doing boring. Let's go to her. Yeah, I figure it's from something like that. But he's like, yeah, he, Ryan baited going one way or the other and then did nothing. That was the conclusion. Oh, response 78 orange aliens bad. Yes, like Doomcock was not a fan of that particular orange alien. Star Wars Episode 7, Night's The Old Republic, New Republic or Episode 7, New Jedi Order. Knights of the New Republic or New Jedi Order? Are you saying like if we were to choose a name? I would like Knights of the New Republic. That could be cool. Knights of the New Republic would be good. It would be like there, it would be a wink and a nod to the old games that everyone loves practically universally that are really interesting and people like. So if they could unofficially acknowledge that they're aware of those things, then that would be nice to see. Halo 5 Guardians had three different planets. How well did that go for 343? More does not equal better. One location can be shown of a greater use. I mean, I don't even feel like they did much with three. You know, they had three in the last Jedi and it's like what was it? It's like window dressing. I can't believe he said they were so detailed. It's like, no, it's like surface level for all three of them. It's just strange assessment. My uncle Dave recently said that Solo is the second best Star Wars movie next to A New Hope.  Okay, Luke surviving outweighs the survival of the entire resistance.  Luke's sacrifice was a waste, changed my mind. But we're not going to be the ones that would change your mind on that one, but perhaps Lee can. The N.R. signed an armistice with the GL forcing them to demilitarize. For some reason they thought it would be fair for them to do it too, which explains the lack of a fleet at the beginning of TFA. Does it? I'd need to... I'm not 100% sure what the acronyms are for and I'm assuming... That's also true. I figured it out. It's alien rhino milk. 100%. I mean, definitely matches. First death star yet. Deathsbowl shoot with rags, Muller and... That's gotta be smooth. It's not Doomcock. Well, throw Doomcock in there as well and then that's the dream come true. Yes, I agree. Why not?  I am sorry. I wish I really do, dude. I'm right with you there. He said doodoo. How many times is he going to introduce a new chosen one, Deaths to to bring balance? Nothing unique about the chosen one. Now the forces are slut.  I'm so sorry it took so long. I just want to make sure everybody's read out. So is everybody still alive? Yo. I am alive. Excellent. While you were doing those, I was fixing something in editing. So I'm done now, and I'm going to just sit here and render it for half an hour while I do this. Isn't it's, wait, it's strange that they say everybody can have the force, but since Kylo, nobody has come forward, both sides should at least have some force users. That's also true, but hey, whatever. It's like they'll give us them an episode nine, probably. Yes, let's continue. It was not a waste of time because they ran into this young Jedi kid and showed him and his friends that the resistance is real.  The resistance is real. The Republic was a thing yesterday. They were in power. Like, why would these kids not know about the good guys? What? Don't even bother. Why would they even call the good guys the good guys? Well, I just find it funny as well because let's just say, for example, these guys came here two days ago and they're like, the resistance is real. And they'd be like, are you resisting the Republic? Are you the baddies? Like, I'm having trouble keeping track. It's like, no, no, no. There's three factions, the good guys, the bad guys, and the other good guys. Apparently, Downward Thrust made a video on the 14th called the battlefield hate train problem that needs stopping. It's not doing too well. It's never, never does too well. The stuff of their action figure legends, this random little thing that happened in the scene that everyone thought was useless could be a very important piece of Star Wars history. And it could, it could. Do you know what would have satisfied him if Ray, like, just sat in a room for an hour and did nothing other than move a chair. And then some guy comes in that room later and he's like, the chair's been moved. I'm going to enact a policy that'll affect the world. And he's like, see, it wasn't pointless because it led to the thing. It's like, it doesn't matter if everything, everything else, it's not even in the movie. So it's pointless for the movie.  Everyone hates Broom Boy. The fact that it happened organically or accidentally, like they just stumbled in. Nothing happens organically in a written film, dude. That's not where I'd be sitting in that room. No, that's not how it works to him. That makes this whole moment all the more believable. It also sends the message that maybe being a rebel was really the same thing as being a Jedi. What? What? What are you talking about? That whole scene with the kid reaching for the broom. Like, what is he sweeping? It's, he's in the middle of the night. He probably can't see very well. It's an establishing shot just to say, yeah, this kid has the force. If you were paying attention for those past, you know, seven seconds. I mean, Also, what were you kid in the cage doing? I couldn't quite make it out. Was he like knitting something? Oh, I mean, we can go back just to see it. I'm pretty sure he's just sitting there. I'm not that interested. I was just kind of curious. It was just kind of weird. Very important. Don't you want to listen to Major Lee's great points again? Like, come on. Chance to hear peace of Star Wars history. And the fact that it happened organically or accidentally, like they just stumbled into him, that makes this whole moment. Yeah, it looks like he's just. No, he's just sitting there. He's chilling in Nuss' bedroom, I guess. And I guess they share pens. They share spaces with animals. All right. That's how tough the life is, dude. Gigantic. It would make it would make more sense if that was maybe a robot with him.  That's pretty much.  Three times the size of a horse. This thing's like a massive dump right next to him. I like the idea, by the way. That's actually a pretty clean pen, too. Yeah, he does a good job. I mean, he lives there. He better keep it clean. They bump into the one kid who can help them because he's sympathetic to their side. This guy considers that organic. It's like he was placed there to be found, dude. Like, if they'd opened any other pen, he wouldn't have been in it. So obviously, this is just contrived. The whole film is contrived. Like, don't even go there. Organic. What are you all about? All the more believable. It also sends the message that maybe being a rebel was really the same thing as being a Jedi. What does that mean? What? What does that mean? Using that clip, I thought he was going to say janitor. I don't know why. All rebels are jetties. Not all jetties are janitor. If you want to be a Jedi, you can come a janitor.  It's like the kung fu story. You start off as a sweeping everything and then you suddenly can break a treason half. All along. Oh, my god. It gives me chills just talking about it. Same goes for this. Wow. I'm so sorry. I'm going to rub your nipples. You know, I actually called it to. I actually said back in 2005, Terry, that this was. This video is like the equivalent of just mental masturbation. I got the chills because it was my story on screen. Someone said he unironically like sounds like a Mr. Plinkip, but for real. And it's kind of like, I'm starting to see that now. It's giving himself a stroke. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. I got it. Oh, my god. What's wrong with your face? It gives me chills in my penis. What's wrong with your face? What's wrong with your chills? Why aren't you going to go chill? He chills just talking about it. Same goes for this scene. And this one. And this one. I'm going to say there are scenes that give me chills. That's that's an argument. I think it's only the most superficial way of it. Looks good. The noise, the sound, you know, things happening on the screen. I like I like X-Wing.  I like the the what are they called the the bad guy ships? I like crystals. I like music that's from Star Wars. I like these chills chills, guys. Well, he wasn't born. He didn't say his name. From the first scene to the last, every single moment. That's not the last scene. Yeah, the one with the bombardment is not the last scene. Just I'm not being pedantic. He's just you're lying to me into the last every single moment of the last Jedi matters. Paige not only sacrificed herself to destroy a dreadnought, but also so her sister Rose could make it to Kanto bite. And make and she could end up saying you shouldn't sacrifice yourself to fit to save people. That's bad. You have to do it for love like my sister did, which was the exact same move. It makes so much sense. I wonder if he's going to cover that. Because remember, you don't know her name in the film, but her hotter Rose Tico died. And that completely contradicts her scene at the end. But how does how does her sister's sacrifice allow Rose to go to the planet to give the ring? She wasn't motivated before, but now she is. I always thought the film was going for the fact that Rose didn't like that her sister died that way. And that's why she stopped Finn. But no, it's like there's so many takes you can have because none of it makes any sense. Destroy a dreadnought, but also so her sister Rose could make it to Kanto bite, give this kid the ring and create the new future resistance. How do those things connect? How do those things connect at all? I thought I was just I thought I was the one that was lost. OK, I'm glad you guys are too, Jesus. So so Broom Boy is the next iteration and it is two friends. Are the next iteration of the resistance? So the formula with this guy either just state is good or take a thing that doesn't make sense, point out something else and just connect them like you just go from sentence to sentence. And you hope people don't realize that you've got no connector. It's like Luke drank the milk. Thus Yoda burning the temple makes sense. You're like and he's like and it's perfect, by the way. It is perfect. And if you don't like it, you don't understand storytelling. Just just so it's perfect. And you like it, otherwise you don't understand storytelling. OK, OK, OK, it's all by accident. Blow that piece of junk out of the accident. The film just feels good. We're not the other party. It feels good to look at. That's probably the best dog I've ever heard in favor of. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve that we can see. Tie fighters in this picture chasing one ship. No cover because they're flying. They'll be fine. Oh, yeah, I love that. When they had the entire fleet of tie fighters defending the cannon. And then they're like the Millennium Falcon sent every tie after it. Even if it means the cannon might get destroyed. Who cares? It's just settable. It's like, oh, oh. And he's like, why did Kylo do that?  That's that's why that makes sense. He's just crazy. He sent all the two. You could have just kept one tie fighter. But then again, you're like, why does that matter? You've got a whole army of eighty eighties there or eighty whatever's the guerrilla visions. So how would I don't understand this formation, too? Why would you have them all lined up like that when they should be in front of the cannon until it's ready to fire? I mean, that would make more sense.  But I mean, it's just funny, because if you remember, Finn is the only one for ages heading towards the cannon for some reason. All of them can't seem to shoot him.  And then suddenly they're unable to shoot anymore. So I'm OK. But I was so happy during this moment, just thinking about what Luke had said earlier in the film. Hey, do you guys like the argument? I was so happy. It's like, I mean, yeah, I'm convinced I was so happy and I felt good. Felt good during this moment. Just thinking about what Luke had said earlier in the film and then watching that kid raise that broom up like a sword. I felt like there's hope for everyone in the game. Oh, you sure do, buddy. Who's got some kind of force? Who's the one to get all the nostalgia now?  It's like a sword. You're not a high force horse. That never happened in the original trilogy. No one identified with Luke whatsoever. Luke, who Luke solo? Is that what was watching that kid raise that broom up like a sword? I felt like there's hope for everyone in the galaxy. You felt like there was hope after literally everyone was killed apart from like 20 people. And there's one ship. You kidding me? Yeah, but the kid with the broom on that planet far away.    It was Rose. I had a broom. That was me. And then I grew up to be the greatest Jedi ever. I was Kylo Ren. Oh, my God. I felt like I could have the force. The movie was literally connecting with me on a spiritual level. Good for you. Ritual level. It was a D connect. On a spiritual level for everyone.  Otherwise, the milk connected with you in a spiritual level. What does that even mean? That's just one of those words people throw out. They're like spiritual. Like, what does that mean? You don't get energy, man. You just you just don't believe in emotions. That's why don't believe in emotions. This is a big old hate. You don't get spiritual tisms. How other people felt about the film. This movie and everyone who. Hey, I like this guy. Makes a good point. Well, this is a very. He's making as many cogent arguments as Lee is. So, you know. More of this guy. Yeah, stay on this guy while making this. If you haven't seen the last Jedi, don't go and say it first of all. OK, don't watch it. Don't go see the last Jedi. This movie is a trap. It's a trap. This movie is a trap. You're just trying to hold. He has literally made a connection. You know what? I was wrong. This video is amazing. It's really it's good. It's got some great arguments against the film that really show how bad it is. But, you know, I appreciate it, Lee. You've definitely opened the mind there. You see, the beginning part was just a joke. Like, he was he was parroting people who would defend the film. And now he's bringing in the real arguments. It was not a Star Wars film. Anybody with half of a brain should not have ended up approving what we got. I agree. Yeah. Look at this poor man. I also agree. This poor soul. He's how do they get spiritual levels of connected? Yeah, here's what I was about to say.  But I saw the kid with the blue, but it was like a sword like a sign from God. That's embarrassing. But, you know, these are the people who are like unreasonable and insane. Dude, calm down. As a matter of fact, it's a reaction video. He's inhaling and exhaling. What do you want him to do? He tells you to watch this movie or even recommends you viewing this. De-friend them, eradicate them from your life. Eradicate them. Kill them in their sleep. Luke Skywalker, though, I guess. Kill the old Skywalker treatment. Oh, man. Yeah, because if you like a movie, you're on the path to darkness, but hating it with rage. Yeah, that's not dark at all. How do you hate something without rage? I don't even. I don't even. Do you want to lead? Do you want us to say that, yes, you should be allowed to love the movie? OK, you're allowed. We're not going to prevent that from happening. It's OK. Yeah, obviously, you're allowed to not like. I'm going to take a huge leap here and say that the guy was being hyperbolic.  I think, personally, I think he was being hyperbolic. That's just my guess. He might have been going for, yeah, comedic sort of. I mean, if he was trying to make people laugh, it worked. He's like arrested for encouraging the mass mid. Shit, I said that in the UK. I'm kidding. Now that makes sense. Worst film of 2017? Possibly. I can't remember what else came out. The argument can be made. Yeah, I wouldn't even say that's hyperbolic. I guess it's possible. People liked his video more than yours. Really, it was worse than 50 Shades Darker. Probably just because 50 Shades Darker doesn't have any stock to begin with. It's like actually. Yeah, it is. It sounds like 47 or 46 percent. Yeah, the audience liked it more. It was worse than the Emoji movie. Possibly. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen the Emoji movie. I haven't either. Yeah, OK. And Ray's parents, like just don't set it. I love this guy. Again, this isn't me as a crazy fan where I'm trying to think of ideas and I'm in my own head here. There was the whole point of The Force Awakens. That was not the whole point of the entire film, not even close. There was a lot of stuff going on in that film.  You can't just name characters and say that stuff is going on. There were characters. Characters were the film. Lots of things were happening. Han and Leia, the history of Luke and Kylo. Yeah, the history of Luke and Kylo relegated to what, two sentences in the film, maybe? Yeah, like two minutes of... Two minutes total of exposition and flashback. There was the whole point of Ray's plot were her parents. That's what she was trying to do the entire time, trying to find them, trying to wait for them, trying to get around the problem of her being alone and always focusing back on her life and what it was supposed to be. Stormtroopers are also in the film, so that's more things. And X-Wings, y