And we are live and public.  It's weird, like the light on the left, you know, because state pads have the speech that nothing else has, which is the light bulb above the screen. That seems to also be broken. The laptop works just fine. Interesting. My old laptop actually works fine. I re-imaged it. Are we already starting the show here? Nah, I don't really want to talk about it. Well, I guess I could. Here, I'll do the... It's Monday, June 18, 2012. I'm Rick. I'm Skye. This is Geek Nights. Tonight, laptops! Alright. Rawr! Do I get some stuff too? Go ahead. How do you want to hear some good stuff? Possibly. Alright, there's the kind of material that people love. So I'm going to dish it out. So it's poop and food. It is poop. So... If we're going to have a food banjo, so yeah, a banjo myself. Come on. Alright, so... I feel like every human being... On Saturday, I decided to bike to the beach, because it was all nice out. Rockaway? Yeah. I succeeded in doing so, and I went over the Adobo Bridge, which I will now call the Abobo Bridge. Ah, so you went over... I didn't... Last time I went out there, I didn't go over that bridge, because it was already like five o'clock when I got out there. So I left at 10, 30. I got to the Abobo Bridge less than noon, even. It's a short ride, if you're pushing. I went extra aways. So I went to Queens, and then I went to these two other parks. There's one that's the south part of the Corona Park, and then there's the... Oh, so you went out, and then... I went out, and then there's the Forest Park, which I didn't know about so recently. So I went to the Forest Park, and then I went to the Abobo Bridge. So...  You can go under the bridge, do a fishing, good times. And then you go over the thing, the Veterans Memorial Bridge, and then you're on the beach. And it's weird because it's like it's Wildwood, but if you turn around, you can certainly see Manhattan way over there, over yonder. So now I kind of want to get a little house over there. We've got a weekend house, and then on Friday, after work, we can bike over there. And then on Sunday, we can go to the beach. All right. You pay for half of this. All right. They had co-ops there. There's a building full of co-ops there, trying to tell. But anyway. Right at the beach. Anyway.  To go west, to take the Gil Hodges Bridge, which goes to Brooklyn, which goes back to New York. Yeah. So, I'm going west down the boardwalk, and my stomach hurts. And I'm like, usually, that is not the cause of stomach hurt. That was simply you trying to postpone the inevitable. So, the rockaway was quite longer than I expected, right? You know, I get down to like this other, I think it's called Rhys Park. And then, you know, to get to the bridge, I was like, wow, it's kind of, you know, on the map, the map was basically lying to me. I thought it would be like. So, you're on that boardwalk, and then I had to like do some tricks to like get over the highway to the other, on the doors part of the rockway. So, I got to get on the bridge. And basically, you know, when I was up in the other area, you know, Queens, they were funny, like porta-potties everywhere and everything. It was all good, you know. But in this area, not so much. Not so looking so good. Not so looking so good. Crowded beach, people everywhere, even on like side paths, like this dude fishing, you know, not exactly a wooded area, right? So, I go over this bridge and I sort of get to this area where it's like crazy highway and you're sort of getting back into Brooklyn, but it's very tricky to figure out like exactly how to get. I know where you were. Yeah. But it's like just kind of all nearby. Well, no, but if you look on the map, it's where I originally wanted to go. It's sort of like this airfield there, and you can see already the bike on the airfield on the runways, but it's not, okay, it's a small plate, right? Yeah. I didn't go in there because I had to go elsewhere. I had to go. Yeah. So, apparently, like right after the bridge, like, you know, most of, everyone was going straight and I saw this little, you know, path that went into the woods and I'm like, hot diggity dog, I went into the woods. So, I go right into the woods and I go deeper into the woods and get a little maze-like in there and I'm like, well, this is good, right? But there's paths. There's paths in the woods, but it's sort of maze-ish. I'm looking around and listening and it's not like I could go physically into the woods. All I can really do is go like near the path. So, you're trying to get just far enough away from people to, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, I laid down two logs and then used some leaves. There were some good leaves there that I knew were not.  Can't you just pop the slot? That's what I did. I laid down two logs. Okay, for some reason, I had this image of you taking two logs and laying them next to each other and sitting on that and then laying down two logs. Yeah, just thought there were no logs of that nature.  I've been camping where you dig a hole. Yeah. But the one time I was in high school.  I was busy, like all day. And then we're out biking. I'm like, all right, I'm going to go home and poop and I was getting to be this is a park here. I got to use the bathroom. Right through the woods, we get to the park. Bathroom's locked because it's like midnight. So, I'm not going to make it. So, I basically just bite off into the woods in the dark, like down this trail in the middle of the woods. This is broad daylight. There was no darkness whatsoever. The problem with the darkness is that there's no way to tell if the delivery was clean or any sort of follow-up there. So, basically, I rocked one out and it was one and it was a rocket. So, the thing is, right, I laid him out there. I wiped with some leaves. They were pretty good. It worked pretty well. No poison ivy? No. It was like a real tree.  They were nice and big. They worked. Anyway, but then I got sort of fascinated because because even though, like, you know, it was a clear day.  Scott, that's what flies do. I know, but it's like they, there were no flies. Scott, you'd be like, there's definitely tons of flies. They'd be like, bird and wildwood, you know, or an arcade anywhere. You hear that fourth mix off in the distance. They're like, how'd you? They're like, come. Except imagine it, what his fourth mix to you was pooped in that fly. I know, right? Remember when you were at RIT and you heard a rumor and a DDR machine somewhere in the vicinity of campus? Anyway, so the final bit of the story, right? Okay, so the story was you pooped in the woods and no one saw you. Right, so while I'm examining the flies, right? And by extension, poop. Right. I hear two people coming down from the opposite direction and I made a getaway and I think they saw me make a getaway.  No, but they didn't like, you know, a guy, look at them quickly as they were maybe like, 50 feet away. Get on a bike and go the opposite direction. By doing that, you cemented in their heads the idea that whoever that was. That's cool because they were walking. They didn't have bikes. There was no way they ever caught up with me or saw me or knew me. You know, I'm gonna laugh so hard we're gonna email her. It was like, I was in the woods the other day and I saw God pooped and right off. I'm sure someone will try to say this, maybe, just because he said that. Well, yeah. It's Monday. But I didn't get to go, I'm gonna go back to the airfield that I didn't get to. Monday, Science Day. But first, do you remind me if I made this interesting today? Sure enough. Poop report is still going. Nice. Oh my. That's a blast from 2000. Pooh. So you got the news? All right, so check this out. This is, I guess this counts as news, right? So you know, Apple came out with them new MacBooks. They did. And so, you know, they had the quote retina display on the MacBook Pro. 15 inch and they canceled the 17 inch completely as a good move because we want to watch that thing. I don't remember. Anyone who has that? Seriously. Well, the thing is, there are cases, you know, we're talking about laptops, there's the case of the ultra affordable, like super tiny laptop that's to go.  But the 15 inch is the giant laptop. So I could see a 17. 17 should not exist. I could see a useful. Might as well just bring a monitor to desktop with you. A 17 inch is still way smaller. Bring a Mac mini and a monitor.  Anyway. Though the X230 has an option for the external second monitor. See, Apple loves external adapters so much, right? You know, I don't understand why they don't do this, which is make an adapter you can buy for 50 bucks that has all sorts of video inputs. Well, in their case they would have one video input, which would be the Thunderbolt, whatever, right?  It has a monitor with this $50 thingy attached to it. That would be a great idea. iPad just uses monitors. But anyway. So, the thing is, you know, the resolution of this new MacBook is incredible. It's 2880 by 1800. Yeah, meanwhile, the last time I was thinking about mine has, I think, 1330 by 900. My 24 inch monitor at work doesn't have 2880 by 1800. Right? And this is only 15 inches. So this is 220 dpi. That is pretty great. There is no, you know, discussion in that factor. Other than some trouble playing games with that resolution. Well, yeah, but you're going to trouble playing games on the Mac anyway. So, the thing is, it's 220 pixels per inch. And the thing is, when they originally came out with Retina, right, it was on the iPhone 4. So, the thing is, it's 220 pixels per inch. And the thing is, when they originally came out with Retina, it was on the iPhone 4, which I have, which is like 300 something pixels per inch. Here's a little chart. Well, it has to do with the distance from your eyeball. Right.  It's like, all right. The thing is, the logic, right? My, that 800 by 600 non-native CRT that I had was Retina, I said, across the room. Exactly. But they, you know, they're basically making, they're just arbitrarily choosing how many inches they think is normal to be away from it to make this thing correct. Here's the problem. And this great article explains the whole thing. Their assumption of Retina, right, is based on 2020 vision. And apparently, that's not what you think it is. 2020 vision means you can read your, like the average person reading the eye chart from 20 feet away. Yeah. Apparently, like, you know, most people have better than 2020. Yeah, 2020 is the standard of this or better is considered effectively perfect vision because measuring better doesn't matter. But the point is 2020 isn't even close to perfect vision. People who don't have eye problems can mostly see it.  So like, you know, I could say I have 2020 vision, but the point is I could read the eye chart from farther than 20 feet away, right? You want to have an eye chart contest? Me and my cyborg glasses versus you and your biological non-photography. I will play the eye chart game with anyone anytime. The article, right? He says, but all 2020 vision might traditionally refer to standard vision. Most research suggests that normal vision is actually much better than 2020. In fact, people with normal vision usually won't see their eyesight degrade to 2020 until they're 60 or 70 years of age. So when I'm maybe 70, then I'll have 2020 vision, right? So, the thing is he calculates based on who knows what kind of math that I don't understand what it really takes to be bullshitting. I thought that the iPhone 4 was retina and the other ones weren't. Now, in fact, none of them are retina, right? In order for the iPhone at 3.5 inches to be retina, the resolution would need to be 2772 by 1848, which is 952 PPI, right? And this is even giving, you know, Apple their inch distance calculation, right? The iPad would need to be 5968 by 4486, which is 769 PPI. And he gives the whole chart here. He also shows, this is the cool part, you know, the ultra-high-resolution image of Earth that NASA lets you download. Yeah. He shows you how much of it you'll be able to see at once in full resolution on a theoretically true retina device. And none of them can see the whole thing, but the 27-inch iMac at true retina by his calculations, you can see almost the whole thing at once because it's sort of widescreen and there's a lot of black area on the sides.  But he's very happy about this actually because it means, hey, shit's only getting better even though he doesn't bring in any sort of monitor technology knowledge into this, showing that it's possible. He just sort of makes the assumption that we're just going to keep making high-resolution monitors forever until we get them to be so high-resolution that it's true retina.  Like, you'll look at it and you won't even be able to tell that it's rim versus a picture of rim, right, looking at the thing. Yeah, well the trouble we're running into is display technology is one thing but also the processing power to make images like that. Yeah, he sort of makes his assumption that we're just going to keep the cycles keep increasing. And he doesn't bring any knowledge of actual how LCDs work or LCD technology or even cameras. I don't think the cameras have to get better. And, well, you know, cameras have to get better. Processors have to get better. All these things have to get exponentially better to be able to push these pixels. I think it's a longer ways out than he thinks. It may even be something that we see later in our lives to get true that many pixels per inch. Well, at the same time, we're moving both slower than I'd ever hoped and faster than I could ever have imagined. Yeah, but it's always weird what areas move, right?  All these flexible monitors on like a little plastic card. I haven't seen them for at least 10 years and no one's ever brought with the market for reals. But, yeah, there are things that you've never seen a prototype that's like, so yeah. All right, so this is a little bit of kind of cool sci-fi. MIT has created a special kind of fuel cell. Okay. The fuel cell runs on glucose. Do you want to know why it runs on glucose?  Nope. So you can put it in a brain. Oh, I read that. And it can power itself. But how does your brain know to send in a glucose to it? The thing is, now obviously this is, you know, early. I don't want to do what everyone at Slashdown does, which is, oh, here's a technology article. Clearly these scientists have not thought of all the basic simple arguments that I thought of just now. No, I know that they have. I'm just wondering what the answers are because clearly the scientists have thought of these things. You know, if I could think of it, they could think of it. And because they published something, they probably already have the answer. I'm not saying I found the problem in your thingy. I'm saying, what solution to these obvious problems that even I could see?   So it's just in the blood. So if you have a thing, like a probe in the brain that also is connected to the blood supply, this thing can just strip electrons off of glucose molecules and use that to make enough power to run a very small device. Now obviously, the questions are more things like, it's more kind of like day or sex, or I could need a power bar to power up my cybernetics. But it also means what if the technology starts needing too much power or you didn't eat enough, that could get dangerous in the heart. Diabetes. More like, well, more like the opposite of diabetes. But yeah, you can have diabetes both ways, right?  Yeah, whether or not you're hyper or hypoglycemic. Right, but the point is this could, it's not going to work if you're a diabetic. So, I think that's the best way to do it. But the thing is, I'm getting hopeful because there's a lot of different, you know, we're just talking about like a retina display. This one guy looked at it from this one perspective and there's so many other factors that make it so hard to guess when it'll be a reality. Cybernetic brain implants and, like, real cybernetics that are somehow integrated but they're a nervous system and all meted reality and all those things emerge. I think that stuff is moving a lot faster than most people realize. Oh yeah.   Yeah. It's going to suck. I've waited my whole life. I've been waiting since as soon as I'm in the computers. There are people who have stuff like it or, you know, they've had it for a long time. Like, MIT had the thing you could wear on your neck. Yeah. And what's his name had glasses he made and what's the guy's name? I don't even early adopter. That's innovator. That's like one dude. I don't have time for that. I don't have time to be the first augmented reality dude. I have enough time to be the second wave, meaning I can buy at the store and it just works mostly. Right. But I'm getting increasingly excited about this stuff. Even if our generation doesn't get it, I'm kind of doubtful that it'll happen in time for my brain's old and decrepit. But I kind of, there's a tiny chance that's tiny chance. The fact that we're one of the first generations with that chance is not zero. But it's some 00001 is a big deal to me. That's all. I think everyone should read this article because it's kind of neat stuff. Yeah. So I didn't have much better news. Get into the main, none of that stuff. But anyway, things of the day. So, I don't mind dubstep. I don't hate it. I don't love it. It depends on the song, in particular, right? Because some dubstep songs are just like, whoa, in the whole time. Some of them, right? They got some other stuff mixed in there, right? And I think those are, like, those I like. You know? I guess it doesn't differentiate itself enough from a lot of other similar subgenres for me. But nonetheless, no problems with it. So many great YouTube video. It's really just an audiophile. This is what dubstep sounds like to old people. It's pretty good. I defy you to not at least almost crack out while you're listening to this, especially right toward the end. That's all. Nice and simple. All right. So here's this great article I read. It's actually a two-parter, or maybe even a multi-parter. I've read all the parts that are here so far. And what it's about is really fascinating. And it's, because we already know, right, that the language you speak has an effect on how you think about the world. Right? You know, language controls thinking and vice versa. But this specifically focuses on the area of color, right? And how, for example, he starts out talking by the Japanese language. How there was the word aw, right? Which is Oh, the blue-green stuff? Right. Which is blue. And they didn't even have a word for green, right? Until, like, the word midori came around, like, very recently, right? And as a result, a lot of Japanese people don't differentiate that much between blue and green. Right. And it's like, basically, some of the link to this from an anime discussion was, like, huh, here's why sometimes you're watching an anime and the light, the street light is blue, even though in Japan, if you go and look at street lights, they're green, right? But it's like, I'm in the anime, the street light is blue, instead of, right? It's because it's the same name. So you think of the crayola crayon and, you know, people don't, you know, it affects how people can see and the thing, the really interesting part, right, was he drew this little thing where they had people look at this grid and then for example, they would say, all right, highlight all the ones that you consider to be yellow. Now highlight all the ones you consider to be green. Now highlight the section you consider to have the blue. Chartreuse, Puce. And it's sort of like, you know, he even uses the XACD comic as an example. Right? And pretty much it comes down to even red in advanced forms, it was clearly orange and I can prove it from screenshots. Anyway. It's orange. Yeah, it's the same kind of thing. So, even, you know, so this, it gets pretty fascinating here when you talk about, like, yeah, you know, these people only had so many words for colors and therefore they didn't differentiate between these two and it's pretty cool stuff. And it's not just color blindness, we don't have a word that's for different green and blue so we consider them to be the same color. Yeah, but at the same time, or I can get a screen right now and there's some blue and some green and the difference is like palpable. Yep. But there are other people that like, they had a different word for green and yellow green, right? It's like there were distinct colors in this one particular language. So these people like they can just tell right away, oh yeah, that's the yellow green color we grew up in the era of hex codes for running HTML. Something like that. It's bad stuff. I mean, to this day I remember 23 AE23 was the color I picked to use as the font and the first blog I ever made. He even talked about Darwin was upset that he tried to teach his kids the colors and they had a really hard time for quite a few years. It's like it's something about kids learning to differentiate colors. It doesn't, you know, it takes a while. I remember when I was really, really young and I had a whole bunch of letters and it compared to most of the other colors. Well the reason, right, so the reason And nothing wrong with it. So the reason that children have a hard time learning the colors, right, this is just the point of the whole thing, right, is that before you learn the language of the colors what their names are the right side of your brain is doing the color figuring work. But then once you learn the name of the color it switches over and the left side of the brain does that work. It's pretty cool. You got to read this. It's good. All right. So in the meta moment the book club book is still Qteen 8-4. I got you. No, no, I'm mixing it up. 1-2-8-4. Yeah. By hierarchy work on me. It's pretty much done with it. I'm getting to the end. There's a character I like more now than I've ever liked. There's a reason that everyone on the subway is reading this book like every day. It's a commonly seen subway book of the past months.  We got any other meta stuff? You should go to our website. You should go to Kineticon. Yeah. Kineticon's coming up. And I referred to Kineticon at the Kineticon Convention Center. It's the only one there. Kineticon State I don't know what it's called. It's the only big Kineticon Center in Harvard. There's nothing near it. It's just a Kineticon. It's a pretty good con but it has more good board gaming at the same level of variety than any con I've ever been to including Pax and Maggie. Yeah, let's type up the board gaming. So not only is their board game library astounding, pretty much including all the big Euro games, as well as a lot of rare older games that are hard to find, but there's plenty of tables and it's not super crowded like Pax is. You can get a table very easily.  Only the payout ratios are not rip-offs like the arcade. Like for 10 tickets you can get a $40 board game which is like unbelievable.  So if you get two games by playing games for say you can play games all day Friday all day Sunday and enjoy the rest of the con on Saturday or something like that and you basically get two free board games so it's like you buy a board game you get one free and you get a con badge free that's a great deal you have to not go to Connecticut. Yeah July 13, 14, 15 we'll be there. So laptops I got one get my laptop season I got one we did a show about this once a long time ago and then we ran out of show ideas in June actually in 2008 but you know at the most recent Anthony Boston Packs my laptop can't really play a modern Centrino I don't understand this because I have that core solo that core solo can play pretty much any video this is probably slower than that it's a Centrino the one you have is the model after mine yeah but it's got a Centrino and still it can play most HD video but it can't play certain high res HD video like if you take that I don't know like a video I export from premiered up to upload to YouTube those it can't play at all because those have a 15 megabit per second even like fairly powerful computers have trouble playing those smoothly I only upload in that way YouTube because YouTube transcoaches into all the different YouTube standards and furthermore certain like anime fansub is usually fine but like a Blu-ray rip of a movie not going to play oh yeah I'm going to but mostly based on anime fansubs that I was down cause I never really and that's like I'm watching Blu-ray rips on that thing but anyway so yeah so you're the one who's buy a laptop my laptop's all good so it's getting about time to buy a laptop again but we did this old show on how to buy a laptop well I mean it seems to be a popular thing right it seems back in our day everyone had desktop computers that was the thing and laptops were like if you had mad moneys you had when I was in high school there was one kid who had a laptop there was a 486 laptop and he'd run a nesticle on it actually I think it was a pinion it was something I forget it was this was 8th grade but then there were people it started to happen that laptops were just the primary computer people didn't have desktops I think a lot of people go that way today yep so when we did that show way back I mean laptop advice is pretty straightforward basically you choose between size and power and you just pick which one of those is more important and when in doubt you might as well go for the extreme of one or the other I mean if it's portable you can use it on a plane get a tiny one and you put your checked bags and bring it to a place like college like it's mostly just sitting on your desk but then you bring it home get a big one there weren't tablets really back then not like we have now there weren't even smartphones to the degree that we have them now there weren't even really netbooks to the degree that we have them now and the landscape has changed so much that the advice is kind of different now I think most people don't need laptops well it depends I mean if you are not doing typing intensive applications if you just want to like browse the web and look at some files while you're on the go you can probably just get an iPad I mean what do you mean you only need a laptop if you need to be able to type right even then it doesn't sort of work like you're coding on the go you need a laptop now what I think is interesting is that because of this I think it's weird just the MacBook Air came out and then many ultra-portals go down that road and try to be like the MacBook Air like be stupidly thin but get bigger in every other dimension thus not any easier to carry around yeah I don't understand this but after that happened then the pads really took off and the tablets and I think there's been a shift from there was a time when netbooks were super popular because everyone wanted to have tiny little computer that they could use like Starbucks or on the go and convention has internet displays and stuff tablets mostly destroyed that market because the majority of the people who got netbooks really just wanted the stuff that a tablet does and that book was just the cheapest way to do that the reason the netbook was crazy popular there were some people who were like man I can have my normal desktop computer and then I can just have a really tiny computer that's almost nothing that's super portable right but most of the people I think who bought netbooks bought them a computer for like $200 holy shit and then they would get them and they would buy a ton of them or one for everyone in the family and who knows right and then like oh these are really crummy and they break and they don't work so then they didn't get repeat customers and they didn't last very long at all before they were useless they would physically break or become so slow that they were used you know and then nobody bought them anymore and that was the end of the netbook and I don't know if it's completely dead but I'm sure you can get one yeah like I said a bunch of factors combined and we're at the point where bad market of the ultra portable ultra little ultra cheap ultra crappy laptop really doesn't have a market I think the other thing is right is that most of these people you know you buy a powerful computer right and you're a stupid computer user and you fill it up with malware and other crap because you're dumb and you accidentally intentionally fill it up with junk even if you don't know I mean on my laptop my Fujitsu you know ultra portable I sell a lot of money out in 2008 ish it's actually no I reinstalled windows because cropped and built up windows let's cropped build up I didn't cropped build up but most of it was actually Fujitsu updates that now they're reinstalled I've got rid of all that stuff yeah I've got rid of all that stuff from the get go but anyway if you're the dumb person let's cropped people don't realize that's what you do though well that's true but the thing is you have a netbook that things slowly begin with it's going to take like a month before you get so slow you can't even use it yep you can use a powerful computer it's like you can fill it up with more crap before it's useless but I mean at this point I like I thought about it do I really need a laptop much like a long time ago I bought a Mac to use as my primary PC because you know PC gaming was dead at the time I wasn't really need a desktop you know computer like I had in the old sense and it was a failure it was a mistake I went back to using a Linux PC within about a week but you know all that aside I really tried to think like do I really need a new laptop or can I just get by with this old one and or not even need one and it turns out I do I actually need a laptop for a lot of things I travel a lot and when I'm using a computer somewhere remote I'm not surfing the net with it I have a smart phone on the shore I don't even need to bring a laptop I got a smart phone why don't we do it in the shore look at Twitter and go to the beach and I have a data plan on the phone I don't need a data plan on my computer anymore because I don't need the data drop that often what I need the laptop for is typing shit because I type a lot of stuff I need a laptop for you can iPad you can attach a computer a keyboard to that they're actually like the new X230 if I get it with the i7 comfortable in power not counting video card to my desktop PC that's the thing it's a video card right if PC gaming did not exist I would not even I would not need a desktop computer I would but only 4HU video editing that is literally the only thing I would need it for right I would just not have a desktop computer and I would just get an even maybe I would even get the stupid Mac but who knows what I would get right but I would just have the Lenovo T the bigger one yep it's a lot of hardware in that thing the normal size one right and then everything I do I could do on there except gaming because you can't get a real video card in a reasonable laptop and if I am getting a big gaming computer I don't want one of those mega right freaking gaming laptops because a gaming laptop is no good is that number one it costs more money for less power even if you go all out than a desktop you can't detach the monitor from the keyboard you can't position yourself for gaming properly it's no good and if I'm playing a keyboard into it why didn't I just get desktop you know the whole purpose is stupid and it's also you can't upgrade it like you can at desktop so you gotta replace it more often gaming laptop is no good but regardless if I didn't play games I would not need a desktop at all I would just have a laptop but this is the problem we're sort of running into here is we get this range of devices that are all computers and all sort of do the same thing in different places you got a smart phone you got a tablet you got a laptop you got a you know a net book a desktop an HPPC right all these devices but if you have all of them right then it's like you hardly use any individual one of them because it's like okay if I'm on the subway do I use the tablet or the phone then do I use the tablet well that's something that's something I run into in general that my living in the city has you know there's a whole bunch of tangents I go out I want to go on those tangents so living in New York using a subway and or a bicycle to get around all the time has basically completely changed my computing landscape like back in the day like if I didn't live in a major city a smart phone actually is not that useful but a laptop with a data connection would be much more useful because in those you know if I live outside the city I drive to places I don't need to plan meeting up with people ad hoc like I do now I mean now we always have the texting and messaging and Google Latitude of hey we're all going to meet somewhere for dinner where do we I don't know we literally don't plan at all we just water out in the city all meet up and do stuff like it's not and too I spend a lot of time in the city like standing outside of a place waiting for other people to show up laptop is useless for that I'm not going to open up for seven minutes I'm using myself I'm not going to go with Starbucks by the time I sat down open the laptop you're going to show up but the phone is perfect for that yeah but it's a question of okay in these different situations I would use these different devices is there should I have all of them or should I not for example I don't have a tablet if I had one I might use it a line on the couch but I have an HTC there and I could use my laptop on the couch or my phone on the couch yep so if I'm buying a laptop I have an old laptop but for a line on the couch it is just fine in fact so I spend money on a tablet if I have like three other devices that are already sort of going in that area if I'm in bed a tablet is probably more comfortable than the phone or the laptop I'm using in bed right now but why should I buy a third device just to be slightly more comfortable in one situation well personally the decision I have made you know I could try to do a thing with this kind of person whatever but now look at me businessy dude also you know podcasting nerd dude goes to a lot of conventions my needs are I need a device I mean if you list out all the needs then you can slice it up to figure out how many purpose built devices you need for example what do we need people like us we need something that can play HTC video and audio to pretty much any projector in the world at a convention everyone I've seen trying to do something like that has failed right it's going to be finicky it's going to be we need something that's super reliable and we need it multiple times a year it's got to be a laptop and it has to be a laptop too because it has to be powerful and versatile I mean we know that one we know playing games live emulated in like made I mean you can't do that Xbox controllers right yeah I need my connectivity device which is a classic device that didn't exist for me in 2008 but it's my smart phone now it's I'm always connected anyone who messaged me emails me calls me tweets me texts me anything I had I always had it I literally leave this in the bathroom when I'm showering well I mean there's also the smart phone you gotta not have a smart phone right so it's also the ipod music player my wallet for something yeah and it's so small you can just take it anywhere even places that you know a small like 8 inch tab I read a great article talking about how rapidly humans evolve sort of socially or not not evolve in the evolution sense but in a more direct sense people who lose a sense like sight or smell or hearing there's a specific sort of withdrawal to go through where the brain is like grasping for that sensory input that's not there anymore the article is showing that if someone has been using a smart phone the way we do for more than some amount of time it's not that long of time it was like 6 months or so that if the smart phone is unavailable your brain literally reacts in a way that is indistinguishable to someone who has lost their sight or hearing the brain treats it like you have lost a primary sense if your smart phone is not available yeah I mean you know when you pick up a hammer to hammer things your brain it's like the hammer is now a part of your body yeah we're driving the car you know this when you're driving like you're actually driving not that we drive that much anymore but your butt kind of gets replaced by your two rear wheels like you feel like the car is an extension of you it's not the separate thing you're piloting right it's how your brain works so if you had a hammer in your hand all the time yeah 24-7 I'm showering pooping laying in bed the last thing I do every night it's basically your brain and if you lose the hammer your brain is like whoa that's why the one thing I worry about if I get google glass even if it's shitty having it it'll be trouble when I take it off like big trouble I mean look what's the first thing I do in the morning I hear the uniclo thing make its noise I just heard it recently because they're waking up too early I hear it but the volume was like messed up it was really quiet so I'm laying there I'm like who's playing music what the fuck you know when you're in that twilight where your brain hasn't fully turned on yet so you can't figure stuff out like if a phone ring you expect the alarm to be there you're like what the fuck is that I've never heard this anyway the first thing I do in the morning is pick up my smart phone don't even put my glasses on yet and I hold it up to my face and I look at what time it is I unlock it and I see if I got any email and I look at twitter and I read google news the last thing I do before I go to bed is look at my smart phone to make sure the alarm is set and then I plug it into a USB thing and I fall asleep same thing that's what the jade McGonagall game I'm not proponent of it but at the same time it's I feel a lack so yeah smart phone I don't think of it as what do I need what does the smart phone do instead I think smart phone is given what does it already do that I don't have to do with another device so really it's like if you're PC gaming you need a desktop yes no we're not if you don't have some sort of ultra powerful application that you're working on at home if you don't already have a desktop you probably don't need one though I would recommend you should be a PC gamer and get a desktop because seriously or in the very least you need home infrastructure if you're going all laptop yeah if you're going all laptop you need a NAS you need a NAS or a SAN in your house you don't have a SAN in your house you could we're getting there where are you going to put it I actually get a NAS in your house thinking about that because I got a lot of HD video I was doing pricing and you've got a media center you should get an HDBC yeah but you know if you go all laptop you got a laptop and you got a smart phone do you need the tablet well I think what it comes down to is you know maybe you're like grandma grandma probably just needs tablet and nothing else tablet is used and only because tablet would be easier for grandma to use because he just touched the things to make them go well I'll say this where a tablet could fit into my existing workflows of life I would use it on couch bed and other places where it would be more if I didn't have a Kindle I would also use a tablet as an e-reader yeah yeah because one of my primary use cases now is standing on subway platform or train crowded because it's the 4 or 5 and it's rush hour can't even hold a book with two hands but I can hold a device in one hand it's either a phone or a tablet or a Kindle I've had too big for one hand I've seen people do it in one hand so I've seen multiple people with this it's one of those cases that holds the iPad and a gripper when you open it the inside has a gripper you stick your hand into like a reverse shoot I'm anti anything like that because it's historic since when do you care about aesthetics I'm anti because I have the 100% all my devices are naked at all times that's the point right because well no I should qualify that I am only of the luxury of that because I am wealthy enough to where if I break my smart phone and it's my fault not that I'd ever done that but if I did I could afford to just buy a new one if I was like when I was at RIT and I didn't have any money like I couldn't even afford food if I had a smart phone I would have had some sort of protective case I'm going I'm going to person that right I see a lot of people what the fuck did you do I've dropped my iPhone 3G and 4 many times but you dropped your iPod mini to demonstrate to me how invincible it was you dropped it but you dropped it one foot no and then poked it with your toe no and the screen shattered that is not correct that is what happened no that is not I was like guys don't bring that bike if you're breaking you're like no it's fine I'm not having shattered the invincibility of the iPod mini you demonstrated it very well it was in a case I dropped it on the floor and then I stomped on it with my heel and the screen broke if I stomped and you gave it a little uptown well I stomped on the screen with my heel of my foot and it broke but meanwhile I had iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 at first I protected the 3G but that was a few months Scott had it and showered with it on me it was fine the next day I called people with it but anyway I had 3G and iPhone 4 it's never been protected I've had it for two years now the 3G was only protected for a few months otherwise naked I dropped the bolt many times they have never shattered or broken or had battery problems or anything or these people who have broken it are doing something for example getting drunk and showering with their devices but that was fine with that I dropped that same one in the toilet like four times over the course of the time I had it protectors are dumb you only need a protector if you need to protect it from yourself if you need to protect it from yourself actually I am thinking about getting a protector but I won't use this protector all the time this is this protector waterproof rock climbing slash mountain climbing because well no you want to divide a thing that lets you tear it to yourself to be dropping off a mountain this is sort of what I want is because I went in the Adirondack and it doesn't go all the way down the mountain I did drop my phone skiing once and if this phone landed like this and started just sledding down I was chasing it bottom of that mountain you know skis are kind of shaped like the bottom of the stone actually there you go yeah but where was I going with this right so we went mountain climbing right through torrential pouring rain like I was walking down a waterfall at one point everyone but me brought their fucking smart phones with them in like multiple ziplock bags every one of those smart phones was fucked really because the ziplock bags filled up the water they didn't fill up but enough moisture got in yeah little secret guys one ziplock bag not enough no kidding two ziplock bags barely enough but I'm thinking about getting a like hard case that also is a like arm straps I can strap the smart phone to my car I mean that's a special purpose thing right there's nothing wrong with say having the thing that lets you tie your iPhone to your arm for running or the one mounted to the top well like we did this show at least so fashion shoes yeah oh I know I had to say I have ten Nike sneakers in ten different colors but now I got let's see skis or ski boots roller blades feet running shoes hiking shoes climbing shoes the default phone protector is naked the default protector is always naked the thing is what really gets me is the kindle like the kindle is the main reason I don't get a pat because I love e-readers like after I'm only using that I want to have to open a favorite book like ah my god I still like a favorite book but the kindle is the first e-reader that I can actually kind of use the only thing is I won't use the kindle on the beach yeah so I got to bring a physical book to the beach I had bad luck with that too I bet books get so wet on the beach I only bring books I bought at the beach yeah I remember one time I bought a book at the beach and then I left the outside overnight the thing is the worst part about it was I saw the book out there on the suit and I knew that it was out on the suit and you were like can't it be fine no I thought it was someone else's book so you're just in dick right and I was like oh someone else read the book I saw whatever it just bothered me and I'm scared that there was ever karma in the world and I couldn't finish the book sound and I have a specific it's a device that only does that I got the non-touchscreen candle the cool thing about it is it fits in my pocket like for real naked it was in a case it wouldn't fits in a big pocket it fits in all my blazer pocket but you can't like that's a big pocket you can't sit on it though it doesn't bend no no no but it'll fit in my pocket it's like just in the pocket I mean a giant gun will fit in there sort of the point so that covers neat reading my phone covers pretty much all want to connect to things when I'm not home so the only things I need a laptop for are showing video and audio conventions editing HD video while I'm at said convention so I don't forget about it and you know put up a video from Pax just in time for the next Pax and recording audio from a far where I think live it so I need to borrow a laptop the things I need my laptop for are conventions of course right doing computing for real like in the bedroom just because I don't want to get up on Saturday morning but maybe I could do some work sometimes you need to do something that involves multiple computers especially developing so I gotta get more computers going on in the house just to you know do network stuff or who knows what I need to say my Apple 2GS well I can't bring my desktop over there and the Apple 2GS is big and heavy maybe I don't want to bring that over near the desk you know stuff like that and also when you go to events in the city like hacker events you gotta bring a laptop right I can't build my desktop there to do right so I need a portable thing that can also do coding work the laptop is the only thing in the world but it'll do some of that stuff well enough like I'll be able to play 5 out of it but if I didn't need to do this work on the go I could probably just have the iPad instead or something like that so I have all these use cases so I need a very portable very high powered laptop so again I need an Ultrabook there aren't that I mean there's still a lot of Ultrabooks I'm surprised but I think there's more than there used to be but I have which is we'll make a laptop we're going to just make it a smaller screen size like 12, 13 inches but at the same time we're going to pack a lot of horsepower into there lots of RAM lots of CPU lots of everything lots of everything but video card and an SSD mic 2.3 is going to have 8 gigs of RAM and an i7 yeah right and an SSD it's actually almost better than my desktop except for the video card but what's happened now is that it's not a laptop but it's sort of netbook right I knew it is like that's just small netbook but it's slightly more like reliable and it's not just going to like die on you like a netbook it's actually going to last and it does normal computing work you know I could almost use it if it ran Windows but here's my thing with the air and all that stuff that's why the netbook air isn't that big it's very very small it is in all the dimensions it is but it's like the thinness is impressive you know but at the same time it's like how much does that thinness really affect me right you know what affects me more having to carry oh no the air is also weight it's that I need it for the air you need like a zillion adapters on it these all over the place and a BGA and Ethernet even as a dial-up modem daddy two USB 3 and one always powered USB 2 right it's got headphone hole microphone hole all these holes are removable batteries all these things allow me to get work done right and for you know the price of that is an extra centimeter or two of thickness but it's really not any bigger than the other dimensions so much as a real 220 was so great but you know I got to do diligence I did a whole bunch of research all the other similar ultra affordable ultra book kind of things I found were a thousand dollars more slightly smaller not any more powerful yeah they kept the altar everyone's trying to copy the MacBook Air I'm not even another thousand dollars to save like two millimeters in one dimension yeah everyone's just copying the air also seriously you know I love my ultra books but Fujitsu's support really fucking sucks like really hard to get any sort of drivers or help and like they had the shock sensor thing you know protects the hard drive you don't need that to give this a z I know but yeah that stopped working as soon as I installed service pack a lot of Vista and I went to Fujitsu like it wouldn't support that it just like sort of like non big name in America laptops seem to be cooked slightly so in weird ways it just caused problems on the road and it's one and it's very annoying you build a desktop right I did like you built it on your own which means you install clean windows or clean Linux on it oh you're going that road right if you no one buys a desktop it's already like laptops and stuff like that but their hardware is so bad it's not worth it now the only way to do it you can't get a clean install disk either they either give you a restore partition or like a DVD that reinstalls all the bullshit yeah you buy a laptop that's already put together that has a bunch of bullshit on it at least Lenovo at least the one I had you can go on and uninstall all their bullshit through the uninstall programs menu and it would work you just had you gotta get a windows disk from somewhere yep but you gotta get the key and everything but they're not going to give you the disk and legally technically contract whatever you'd have to buy a new life somebody was saying that if you buy a Dell I don't know how true this is I'm not going to tell that time right somebody said if you buy a Dell or maybe certain Dell I don't know and you click the right thing when you're checking out they'll send you the disk and the disk is like 20 bucks more so you did not give me your norton bullshit I don't want it I don't know why they give this bullshit I guess norton all those people pay them I mean I can understand norton right paying them to do something right take this for example you buy Lenovo and in the in the task bar there's a no this is Intel Wi-Fi manager right Intel or Lenovo what did they gain by having that there windows already has a Wi-Fi and it works you use some special features of the hardware that want standard why don't you just make a normal windows driver that exposes those so that the windows Wi-Fi thing can take advantage of that no well I was going to make it even more root standard windows no one uses those things anyway like in the x230 you can get now it's free to get the regular Intel chipset for the Wi-Fi instead of the Lenovo one you get it there's going to be this bullshit or you can pay like 50 bucks to get the Intel like special one as far as I can tell it does no that has 3G if you buy that no no the 3G stuff is completely separate from that oh ok it there's a lot of like special hardware and software for Wi-Fi as far as I can tell it's not used in any actual environment anywhere in the world yes you see all these things like hey it's double Wi-Fi that connects twice because it's like you're connecting with two I defy you to get your router to support that I'm not going to do that unless you buy like a set of hardware and that'll work once and never work again it's bullshit I don't know but yeah I did all my research that's a great way to kill that I think right now the any new laptop like Fujitsu from 2008 early 2008 it's getting near 10 but oh I'm turning it into the kitchen PC so I don't have to print out recipes anymore tablet's actually really good for a kitchen PC maybe if it was mounted if it was mounted on the wall even if you buy because it's a tablet you can just wipe it off if you get the keyboard going on in there stuff can get in there in the kitchen dirty you touch some eggs and then you touch the keyboard I would actually mount the tablet on the wall right but you touch some eggs you touch a tablet well you can just wipe that off spray with some whatever and then you clean again spray with some rubbing out the hot water mixture if I'm buying any hardware is does it fill a need I have and is that need a legitimate need yeah and is it worth amongst not worth the price of iPad for slightly less chance of ruining a really old barely functional laptop now I mean I to what price of iPad slightly more comfortable computing in bed when I wake up and go to bed and slightly more comfortable computing on the couch not worth $500 because I'm not going to carry it to Starbucks I got my own I still whenever I see someone holding up a gigantic iPad or MacBook to take a picture with a built-in camera I want to just reach up and smack the the act is its own punishment as it is you know because they don't realize it same thing I see people with iPhones or all kinds of smart phones and they don't hold them next to their head like a regular phone when they're talking on the phone and all these weird ways like dude it's a phone you hold it like a phone this part near the ear this part near the mouth right or people have those little headphones that have the microphone on the wire and then they'll like grab the microphone part and push it close to their faces like no actually you have to do that mine you do not I find the way it works it's just a microphone if you leave it hanging by the neck no one can hear shit no that's bullshit I have the etymotics and also I've done hang where it hangs yes I tried that if I'm on the street in New York and I do that I've done it I've done it too I've called myself and recorded it you basically hear the traffic and me in the distance I've used it it works just fine you just push the button you just start talking you don't touch anything you just leave the phone in your pocket you leave the wire where it is just talk right you have a smart phone you hold it like a phone next to your head I hold the microphone near my mouth because otherwise it doesn't have this problem okay anyway I'm buying you a laptop I think the best ultrabook from everything I can all the research I can do with the Lenovo X230 wins which is still sad because it has problems like it has a chiclet keyboard first I can well it has a chiclet keyboard and a relatively low resolution screen yeah I mean it's not perfect and it's like how come a perfect thing doesn't exist it does it's a thousand dollars well it's not perfect I can get slightly better for another thousand dollars if you get for a thousand dollars slightly higher resolution screen slightly thinner from like Panasonic okay alright I think we're done alright you saved this shit killed off of it oh there's five people watching this whatever they're live they're wasting yeah so I can change camera angles with Scott I can share my screen oh they accidentally combine both links oh no they're separate they just alright I'm ending this the links are there they're separate they're just sort of next to each other okay I'm going to import videos now ready for this alright


Howdy y'all and welcome back to JSATV. We are coming to you from Data Cloud USA here in fabulous Austin, Texas. And joining me today, we have Susanna Cass. She really needs no introduction here to the data center industry. But please allow me to introduce one of the top 10 women in data centers. Also one of the top 10 sustainability local data center leaders recently named by Data Center Magazine. She is leading the tech and talent charge here at Data Cloud as part of a huge initiative with broad group. And she is also the data center advisor to ULN SPG. She is leading the future of data center sustainability design. She is also a graduate board member. The leading impact and analyst for Stanford University. Did I get that right? It's perfect. So Susanna, welcome to JSATV. And I did forget to mention that she is also one of the greener data authors for our greener data drawing to such an honor to be here with you today, Susanna. Thank you very much. So let's just kick it right off with a pretty loaded question here. Why is the sustainability discussion within the digital infrastructure section so important? Right? Thank you for the question. We all have witnessed where the threats that cause lives. The issue is current. And we might have actually experienced it, these unfortunate innocence in our own neighborhood. Instead of reading it in the news somewhere remote. We are all cloud builders in this digital infrastructure together. In the sustainability, we are all taking the same journey. So as we deplete environmental resources as such a rapid pace for the new growth that we basically have, it is really an important issue. In my viewpoint, and I thank you for the opportunity to speaking with you all in the audience, I am a big fan of JSA. It is not a race of technological innovation anymore or adoption. I plead to my colleagues in the industry as every day we start thinking about designing and building data center. We must take our responsibility seriously. And sustainability is not an afterthought. It is an act, an active act of responsible innovation in the digital infrastructure as we continue to be the clean cloud builder. And we entered into the future of data center. The future of data centers. That is what this is all about here at Data Cloud and a big piece of what you do day in and day out for the industry. So thank you again for all that you do. You bring such leadership to our industry year after year. And as the co-founder of Infraprime and a critical piece of data center design, what would make the biggest impact in the shortest amount of time? Net zero is actually well understood in a data-centered design now. We need land, we need power, and we build everything else. What we need to be is purposeful of resource usage and use the resources responsibly. Let me give a specific example, such as power with no emission. It is just obvious because renewable energy source should be desired and depleted over a fossil fuel in our design of using data center. Second example, if we must use water, there's no reason to use drinking water. We need to deploy wastewater for our cooling purposes and have a replenishment strategy for water for each resource that we consume. So many of the things that we actually do in sustainable design is actually just common sense, but we need to be embracing the environment as part of our toolkit. We need to understand the effect of our design and our decision has profound effect for the generations to come. Such as the materials in our build, let's try to use some new innovation of zero and body carbon and pivot to resources that can absorb emissions throughout the life cycle. Thank you, my great insight. We're so about how you use the resources and becoming more efficient. And what innovations are you most excited about that you see making an impact in the design for years to come, especially when we're talking about the future of data centers? AI. Here we go again. How many times is that that we've heard the acronym AI here at this conference? How many would you say? Many, and it should be in everybody's thought. So let me be a little bit, yeah, let me be a little bit specific about what I mean by when I answer your response about AI and I sincerely look forward to expanding more in the chapter of the Future Data Center and one of the books that JSA is gonna be publishing. Really glad to be included and invited to the journey. Thank you. So AI is a powerful technology that will transform our future. I see the capability to help us compact climate change and find sustainable solution. Climate change is a multi-faceted problem with no single solution and humans are too slow to actually address the rapid shift. So AI is a good technological enabler. We need to move beyond discussing about what we're gonna do and start focusing on how we're gonna do it. So AI help us to do now casting. We can now see the effects of climate change on Earth ecosystem, which is incredibly complex. As part of our effort to use AI as a technology for solving some of the world's most complex and challenging problem, we are working to advance our understanding to optimize existing system and be able to accelerate breakthrough science of this climate change and the effects it have. Second, AI also help us better understand weather, climate and interactions of the core problems and the effects as we start designing, operating and building data center. So these are the crucial first steps that we can do. And the approach that we basically take is called now casting approach. It goes a long way to actually help us to make better decisions with accuracy. So we can map the research of the AI inference model to tap into the machine learning that we actually have today. So together, we can actually look at the data regardless where all the inventors, the scientists or the builders are going to be. We can collaborate a lot more effective, a lot more efficient to optimize renewable resource system to minimize reduced emission as we continue to foster the digital infrastructure of sustainable stewards. And I will give specific examples and plea to everyone to join the journey as I author the chapter of the Future of Data Center in the book that JSA is going to be published. Cannot be more excited about the time that we're in and how we can actually use the technology as a responsible innovation tool. And we need to be more socially conscious of the future of data center that it will impact lives, but in a positive way.  You've heard it here on JSA TV, live from Data Cloud here, USA and Austin, Texas. Susanna, such an honor and a pleasure to have you. Thank you so much again for all that you do for our industry and for keeping a more sustainable future of data centers. We are so excited and looking forward to your chapter in greener data volume two, which launches on Earth Day 2024. Susanna will be joined by some of the biggest and best leaders in the digital infrastructure space. It's all about AI. It's all about sustainability here at Data Cloud USA. Thank you viewers for tuning in. Stay connected, stay curious, stay sustainable and happy networking.


Hi, I am Jacqueline Makhita. I am Ankita. So we are from Wingify. And we are going to speak on the topic which is web push notification, automation mystery solve. So yes, indeed, we have solved the mystery. Like these are the push notifications for which there is no automation right now indeed available. So not even Google has provided it. Like they have started developing. But no, there is no great progress on that regard. So like we started on working on it. So what we'll do is we'll demo our tool as well as I'll just quickly run down of the agenda, like what all we'll be covering. So how many of you are having knowledge about web push notifications? Yeah, so mobile push notifications were there. Then Chrome launched about an year back web push notifications as well. So that is great. So we'll be discussing what are push notifications, the concept behind it, that is a service workers, then testing those notifications, our tool push not, and it's demo, and it's for the scope. So talking about push notifications. So every one of us are like most probably well versed with the mobile notifications. Like you must be having applications like Facebook, Twitter, and whatnot, any shopping website. So they are pushing content every day. Every day and night they are sending you product updates or any offer updates. So they are using. So this was not present in mobile web. So have you seen such kind of a pop-up or something like which we generally want to click on the blog button because we are afraid that it will spam us. So these are the Chrome notifications. So clicking on allow will like, you will get subscribed to them and any new further updates, you'll be receiving on your desktop, on your laptop, wherever you are accessing the same. So this is how it looks in Chrome, the first screenshot, and the second one is for the platforms. They have also like Chrome launched an year back and Firefox did like a couple of months back. So coming back to push notifications. So these are basically timely, good engaging updates which websites want to send to their users. And they're really engaging. Like there were certain case studies which proved that classic email, like email notification and email matching, those are turning out to be really sad now. Like there are very less conversion rates and very less click rates, et cetera. But push notifications, they know that a person is accessing his browser and once it is subscribed. So even websites like, you know, leading newspapers, Hindutantimes.com, Fans of India and whatnot. So they all are these days using push notifications. So one major advantage is that your browser should not be open. Like if it is open, it's fine. But once you have subscribed to them, there is no need for the browser to be open. Just like.