ServiceNow Knowledge 14 is sponsored by ServiceNow. Here are your hosts, Dave Vellante and Jeff Frick. We're back, this is Dave Vellante and Jeff Frick. This is SiliconANGLE Wikibon's theCUBE. theCUBE goes out to the events. We extract the signal from the noise. We're here live at Knowledge 14. ServiceNow is a big event. There are about 6,600 people here. ServiceNow, Smokin' Hot Company. Another Smokin' Hot Company is Red Hat. Mike Caraway is here. He's with the IT group inside of Red Hat. Mike, welcome. Glad to be here. Yeah, so we were at the Red Hat Summit a couple of weeks ago here at Moscone. I was back in Boston watching live, you know, jealous. I hate giving up the mic, but it was really a great event. I presume you were there. Yeah, I was here. It was a great show. I was really excited to hear some of the stuff we're doing with the advancing Linux, but also a lot of exciting things with our cloud tools. We talk about Red Hat a lot because everybody wants to be the Red Hat of something. That's like, the VCs always say, oh, I get 100 business plans a week. We're going to be the Red Hat of X, big data, cloud, or whatever it is. That's great. But we always joke, well, Red Hat's going to be the Red Hat of that. You guys are transforming. You're growing very rapidly. You got people's attention, you know? All of a sudden, you know, 10, 12 years ago, everybody sort of let you do your thing.  So congratulations on actually being in a position to do that, being a billion dollar plus open source software company. It's so exciting. No, it's a lot of fun. I mean, it's, you know, the IT side of that. RCO calls them high class problems, right? It's all the problems that come from growth and your product set and pretty extensive growth in our customer base, our customers, our associates. And so that's created some challenges and that's what we in IT, spent a lot of our time working on. So as an IT practitioner within a technology company, is that different than being, say, an IT practitioner at, you know, a manufacturer or financial services? There's largely IT, you know, technology companies, but are there differences? Are there similarities? And what are they? So do you mean what is it like being the IT guy when all of your customers know more about technology than you do? Or at least they think they do. Well, I told somebody the other day, my entire career, I'd had customers that thought they knew more than me and for the first time, since coming to Red Hat, I've got some of that to actually do. So, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it is an interesting challenge. It's a challenge for us because, you know, we endeavor to, we call it our customer one program. We try to use a lot of our own tools in the beta stage and so that creates some interesting and fun challenges but also just trying to enable a dynamic organization creates a lot of challenges. Okay, so they used to call it the dog fooding, you know, but now it's drink your own champagne. Yeah, I've been told to use that term now. So the first time I heard it was Oliver Busman, the CIO at SAP, we're at SAP Sapphire. He said, no, no, no, we don't eat dog food here. We drink champagne. Like, of course, it's SAP. Right. So, okay, so you are sort of a proving ground for a lot of the technology guys, so that carries a lot of weight, right?  Yeah, no, it is, I mean, in the places where, you know, our IT job overlaps with Red Hat products. We aspire to do that. We use our own middleware, Linux, obviously, and over the last year or now, we've been using a lot of our own cloud tools like OpenShift to deploy our applications and this year, we're making moves with our OpenStack platform. And how's it working for you? It's all working really well, I mean, we're really excited with the things we're seeing and, you know, excited to see sort of what's going to happen as some of these tools get out there a little more probably. Yeah, I mean, while you guys are early adopters, you have to be the proving ground, right? Yeah, yeah. It doesn't work in your shop. You know, that's a problem. No, it's interesting, I mean, we try to prove out our own tools, but one of the things that, you know, led us to sort of serve us now is we also are trying to be improving ground just around cloud in general. As Red Hat looks to go to the cloud as an organization, we as an IT shop are making a big push into the cloud. So that extends all the way up from our own infrastructure as a service, platform as a service tools that we offer, but also into being an early and heavy adopter of software as a service tool. So you're extensively using cloud for infrastructure as a service? Is that what I'm doing for her? We're doing some things there and this year we're looking to do more, you know, with our own OpenStack product. Yeah, okay. So let's talk a little bit about service now and what you're doing. I think you said you've been a service now customer for a couple of years. Yeah, it's been a couple of years now. What was the impetus to bring it in? What was life like before and how did it change? Yeah, we had a system that I believe was referred to in one of our IT town halls by an associate as Soulcrushing. That sucked the life right out of you. That was our impetus for change. Somebody called it the dementors. I saw that somewhere. Yeah, and it was a legacy IT service management tool. As a growing organization, we felt like we need a lot more flexibility. We need to be able to move faster. And we had the vision then at a very early stage of what you've heard, talked about from service now as it relates to enterprise service management. Tools that would not just work for IT but something we could take across the enterprise. And we just weren't finding that within our existing tools. So we looked at some different options and showed service now. So talk a little bit about how it's actually worked. We just had Atticus on from Intuit. He's just getting started on this journey. You've been at it for a couple of years. Are people executing the vision that Frank and Fred have laid out in terms of building these applications, getting the productivity gains, changing the way that they look about their work in value add people? I think that's absolutely true. And I'd also like to think to some extent that what Frank and Fred are talking about is to some extent driven by what we as customers have begun to do with the tool. I think a lot of us began to see the enterprise opportunity there early on. And so we're really seeing that being lived out in the enterprise space. We have put a number of different departments on it. We've got others that we're looking at doing. We see the opportunity to move past that and move into more of a portals kind of a space where it's a solution. In other words, I'm a new hire. Here's my set of services. I'm a manager. Here's my set of services. And then we also are looking at things that we can do with respect to continue the automation that you heard talked about and the orchestration, interfacing that with what we're doing from a cloud perspective to be able to spin up cloud services. Does anybody broke it?  But I always wonder if somebody, you know, I'm hitting the database a little bit too frequently and causing some angst. We haven't run into that. And where we're at in our journey is we've not really pushed heavily into the citizen developer space yet. So ask me again next year. I'm sure I'll have those stories to tell. But one of the things we're trying to do with it though is to take some of the things that we know as being a fairly disciplined IT execution shop and bring some of those same disciplines into this tool. So without breaking the agility of the tool, making sure we have good, you know, project management, agile and release kinds of practices around the tool. Well, you know, you're talking about the development side. So I'm always intrigued by the notion of, you know, pass. Right? Somebody said to me pass, the artist formerly known as middleware. And, but there's sort of interesting things bubbling up, right? You got, so the infrastructure as a service plus, you got the sort of SaaS minus, right?  So I would imagine, given that you're drinking your own champagne, you're going to be pretty focused on your own development tools. But do you see something like service now potentially for certain service oriented applications? No, absolutely. Finding its way in. Absolutely. And we do that today with other types of tools like this, historically, where things that are really germane to the tool and the sets of services the tool provides, a lot of that development happens around that tool, both with workflows as a good example, also customizing the user interface. So we see a lot of opportunity there. And then behind all that or underneath it, we have a fairly robust set of middleware, based on our own products, obviously. Enterprise service plus and SOA services that sit behind that to support it. So service now, these events are interesting. Our first one was last year in Vegas at the Aria. And we saw these cakes, these pictures of cakes and people baking cakes. And we heard stories of cakes. We're like, what is that? And people are like, oh, we bake cakes because we're so happy. We make a cake, send it to service now. We love these guys. They've changed our lives and we're like, really? And they clapped our product demos, which is very rare. You see it at some other, you see it at Tableau, you see it at Splunk, you see it at ServiceNow, but it's very rare at some of the large three letter companies to see that, right? So my question is, have there been any of those sort of bake a cake moments for you and what were they? I'm feeling bad, I haven't sent anybody a cake. You didn't bake a cake? I didn't send a cake, I'm feeling a little guilty now. No, we definitely are seeing that. I mean, it excites us because as you mentioned at our Red Hat event, we see that same kind of right zealous nature and passion about the tools. And it's exciting to see that around this tool and we do feel some of that. I mean, we've seen it as we were able to go out outside of IT and start offering service management capabilities to other groups. Things that before would have, we'd have spent months and months trying to find the right tool, a function specific tool, or even worse, we'd have gone off and built something from scratch that we could just offer that capability out with a reasonable, I'd say modest amount of customization. That's pretty exciting. Perhaps I owe somebody a cake. How do you measure, do you measure productivity of the staff and the impact that these types of initiatives are having? I think we're a fairly foundational level with that right now. I mean, we think about it just relative and sort of anecdotally relative to what the past would have been. I've been on IT for longer than I'll mention here and give away my age, but we sort of historically have seen when you go out to automate workflows and anything that had a work process in it, you'd be spending months to a year plus to begin to do something to help our business customers with that. And the fact that we can turn that down to months and now even weeks sometimes is, that's pretty substantial. So we haven't measured that, but that's a time to value metrics. It's time to value and then it's also the opportunity cost. We as an IT shop, supporting a growing organization, there's a lot of things we're trying to do that invest time and energy in high value places to enable the Red Hat business. Process management is certainly important and an important piece of that, but time we spend there is time we can't spend as an IT shop doing things that help us get products to market, for example. So what's next with you guys? Either on service now or not, that's exciting you. Right. Well, associate productivity is something that we've begun to focus on. Because of our growth, I think the stat was our, we grew by about 20% over the last year, so 1,000 plus people walking around that were completely new. I tell people to imagine what their first year was like and trying to figure out how to be productive and multiply at times of 1,000, that's what we're dealing with. So productivity has become really important to us and so we're looking at a number of cloud-based type solutions to help with that and a lot of things around collaboration and communication that we think are important to us, but a critical layer of that is the knowledge, enablement and process enablement and we think service now, it already is and we think it can play a much, much larger role there, of course. Excellent. Mike, thanks very much for coming to theCUBE. It's a really pleasure seeing you. Happy to be here. Keep it right there, everybody. Pound No 14 is the hashtag. Jeff Frick and I will be right back. This is theCUBE.


Welcome back to my channel, guys, Intigra Coco Styles. So in this video, I'm going to just show you guys what I eat in a week as a vegan. As you guys know, I was an alkaline vegan, but I pretty much am not anymore because I kind of got bored with a lot of the food. However, probably 98% of my stuff is still alkaline and the reason why is because I know that my body actually feels good, but you also still need balance. So what I'm going to do right now is make some breakfast and I'm going to be eating some granola cereal that I made from scratch and I'll give you guys a little pan over of that. If you guys can see this, that is just some regular oats, which I typically do not eat. I usually eat camoot oats or spelt oats, but I thought it comes out a little bit better with this one. Maybe I'll try it again with the camoot. So this is just some regular organic oats with some organic raisins and organic pumpkin seeds and organic walnuts. And I did put a little bit of agave in here to get it to sweeten up a little bit. When I put it in the oven, I put a little bit of grape seed oil, just a little bit and I stuck it in the refrigerator. Most people do not stick it in the refrigerator. I do. I don't like anything open in my pantry. So that's what I'm going to be having. And also I'm going to add in to here some strawberries, some blueberries, and I have some bananas. And I didn't. I wasn't able to find my regular baby bananas, so I had to opt for some organic regular bananas, which I typically don't eat. And then for my milk, you guys already know, I make my own milk using walnuts. I usually put hemp seeds in it, but when I do eat cereal, I do not put hemp seeds in it because it gives it like a weird, I don't know, it sits on the top. So I put some walnuts and just some spring water and some agave and that's it. So let's just get started so you guys can see my cereal. Curry chickpeas with some green peppers, red peppers, and some onions. And I'm going to try to make like a curry, like gravy type of soupy situation. I'm going to make some quinoa with it and I think the dumplings and stuff will make it kind of hearty. So I have my spelt flour in here. I'll let you guys see this once I start kneading this down. I usually just put just plain salt in here, sea salt, and some water and that's it. And then I'm going to actually add in these mushrooms, let me see if you guys can see that. Let me see if I can make sure you guys can, uh-oh, I think I see that. So I'm going to be putting these in there. I was going to use portobello, but not today. My seasonings that I'm going to be using is the kelp, kelp seasoning. I have some sea salt, I have oregano, I'm not supposed to use garlic, but I'm going to sprinkle some garlic on there, some onion powder, pepper, and then I have some curry seasoning. All right guys, so I'm going to actually just get started and start cutting up my peppers and stuff and my onion. Let's cut some of that up. I've been packaging my stuff in these. I like this a lot for home goods. It does have like a little vent here for you. So depending on what you put in there, fruits or vegetables, you can do, you can open it or close it. And then, and like I said today, if I can figure out a good way to start filming these, then you know, I'll do a lot more cooking videos. So let's just cut this pieces to put in there. And honestly guys, I just, I wing it. I just need a couple of pieces in there. And the reason why I'm not showing my face today is because I'm a little under the weather. I don't even want to say under the weather. My tummy hurts. And I'm kind of just dragging today, but I had a feel for this. So while I was working today, I was like, let me just, you know, make some of this for dinner. And I have some plantas. I usually don't eat regular plantas out by burrow bananas. But maybe I'll make some of that too and add it on my, my meal for the day. See? And I was like, I don't have that machine that people use. And when I figured out that I could do it this way, this was the best thing since sliced bread. And it comes out just fine. And again, I just put spring water and sea salt. That's it. That is it. And I make like, and I just kind of go around until it gets into a bowl for me. And these are my way of making dumplings. I'm sure there's a, a real nice recipe out there. And what I usually do honestly with the dumplings, since I just cook for one person, actually you can make, even one cup makes enough for two people. So for me, if I just wanted like a snack or something, I'll just use the one cup. And then kind of go from there and then I have a little extra flour. And this is spelt flour guys. That's the white spelt. You could actually use the whole wheat spelt, but it doesn't give you the same type of texture. You know, see, I don't know if you guys can see that. Can you guys see that? I don't know if you guys can see. It doesn't give you the same, it's not as easy. If I usually, if I do use the whole wheat one, I would use some, what do you call that, garbanzo bean flour in there. Yeah. So, and this is what I do, I just kind of take it and knead it with my, my hands and stuff.   Oh, is she standing there watching? Oh, she's crazy. All right, guys, I'm going to put a little bit more flour and I'm going to let it sit while I season up the garbanzo bean flour. I mean, the chickpeas, because they're already cooked. She crazy, y'all. All right. I'm just going to do this like this. If you guys are okay with me not showing my face, then I'll cook some more. I work from home. So sometimes I'm just kind of like, well, today definitely lounge around. I just totally didn't feel good. All right. So here's the dough.  I just cover it up for a second. So now I'm going to actually take the chickpeas and season those up. Let me grab another bowl. Word of advice, if you guys are using curry or anything, try to use a pot like this. So here are my chickpeas that I already cooked and I just throw them out. The juice is still in here. These are fresh chickpeas. Not canned. And when I make them, I usually just put some sea salt and that's it. Because sometimes I like to save the water, the aqua fava water, and save it for like an egg base for some stuff. So I'm using the same seasonings that I used on the mushrooms with the exception of the kelp. Let's put some sea salt on here. This sea salt is so annoying. Okay.  Where's my cayenne pepper? Let me grab the cayenne pepper guys. All right. So I'm going to put some cayenne pepper and then I'm going to, I'm going to put a little bit more curry on here. I just have, I don't know why I have a taste for it like this today. And I'm just going to let this sit here for a little bit. It looks a little crazy because it has like the juice on it. So let's leave that. All right. So we can also set that to the side. And now we're going to put on a little bit of oil in the pot for some quinoa in here. This is one cup of quinoa. So I'm going to put two cups of water. Okay. Two cups. I'm going to put a little bit of sea salt in here. Quinoa has a really like distinctive taste. Let's put a little bit of pepper too. I should put my little sofrito in here, but no. Can you have sofrito with a curry?   Then in this water, a little bit of sea salt again. Like just a tiny bit. Okay. Let's put this back here. I'm going to turn this on the quinoa. Let's turn that on. And let's kind of like break this up. Green peppers, red peppers and stuff. Once that. Because sometimes it doesn't completely get fluffy for me. So I end up like turning it with a spoon or whatever. Let me grab another one. Let's grab another one. Let's see. See, I can tell that it's not fluffy like I like it. So I'm going to add in a little bit of water. Just a little bit. And I cover it back up. Just a little bit. And then I just stir it up a little bit. And I let it sit. And then my dumplings look like they're going to overflow. But it's okay. And then here's this. I'm going to cook down. And then I'll put the mushrooms in in a second. I'll let that cook. And then I'll be back with the finished product, guys. All right. All right, guys. So this is pretty much done. I'm just letting that simmer down. And I ended up putting on some plantains just to go with it. So let me let that cook. And King White, it's done. And I will give you guys the final presentation in a second. And I think I was going to make some ginger beer, but the way my stomach is feeling right now, I think I'm just going to drink a huge glass of water. Because I haven't been drinking much water today, but I'm feeling really today. So I'll be back with the final plate. And I will catch you guys in the next one. All right, guys. All right, guys. So here is the finished product. I hope you guys can see that. So I did put some plantains on here. I have my quinoa and I also have some lime water right here. So bon appetit to me. Good morning, guys. It's Tuesday morning and I'm about to make some breakfast. I'm not really that hungry today.  So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to make some spelt avocado toast. And it's really simple. I just have an avocado or organic avocado and some small plum tomatoes and some spelt bread. And I'm actually going to have a side of fruit with this. Maybe some tea. I'm not too sure because sometimes when I drink tea and eat fruit, I don't know. It doesn't agree with me. So I'm not sure just yet what I'm going to drink for breakfast. I need some tea so maybe I'll drink it a little bit later. But we'll see. All right, guys. So I'm going to put the spelt bread into the toaster. This bread is frozen. I buy it from the farmer's market and they make it fresh so you have to freeze it right away. I don't know why it looks like this. It's just a little shape where, but this is the spelt toast. So let me toast this right now and get back and get the... Actually, I'm going to stick it in the toaster.  Probably because I was snacking on some stuff early. I'm just going to make a juice today.  Ginger. So that's it. I'm just going to quickly get started. I'm going to put my strawberries in here. And again, guys, I usually cut these up the week before. I have some ice in there because I want it really cold. And I'll probably put like... Let's put that to the side. Let's put some... I love blueberries. I don't have any sea moss. And I usually put sea moss. I'm going to put a full banana. I'm a little nervous before it makes me like my stomach hurt. I'm going to put a full banana. And I told you guys the last time that I usually don't buy conventional bananas. I usually just get baby bananas. And then I'm going to take some watercress, like a handful of watercress and put that in here also. So here's the watercress. And I clean this off also when I bring in my groceries, when I go shopping. And I'm just going to press that in there.  I usually mix dandelion in here, but they didn't have any this time. And I only like to buy it from one farmer's market here in Atlanta, not the other one. So, here we are. That's it. And then this should hold me over until like dinner. And I'm just going to add some water up to there, I believe. Where's my line? Oh, I think I went a little past it, but whatever. Let's cover that up and let's juice that up. And you guys know I use my regular juicer, my Ninja. And the Ninja has a few settings I told you guys. And they do have the one for juice. Okay. Let's grab that. And I'm sorry if you guys can't hear me because I'm walking away from it. But I'm trying to do this really quick. This is really good. Okay, so if I wasn't putting in watercress, because watercress has like a slight of a peppery flavor, I'm going to just do the dandelion. I would take a piece of fresh ginger and put it in there. And let me tell you, that really changes the flavor of everything. And it's so yummy. All right, so let's put this here. I don't know if you guys can see that, but I'm just going to turn it this way. Because the plug is so short that you won't be able to see the front of the juicer when I'm pressing it. So I'm going to press start and it's going to put extract. And that's it. Just keep it in there. Because it does come with tops that you can use. And you don't have to pour it into a cup. So since I'm just kind of like chilling on my lunch break. Maybe I'll start vlogging that me while I'm working from home. I'll let you guys see. I've been at work from home telecommuter for over eight years. So won't catch me in the office. So this is my juice. I'm probably just going to snack on something because this is kind of fulfilling. Maybe I'll make some guacamole. I'll make some guacamole and have it with this, but that's it. This is going to be my lunch for today, guys. My little smoothie. And that's it. This will hold me over. I have a good enough at four o'clock. I have a couple of meetings and I should be okay. And then I'll probably have a decent size dinner. Try to eat early so I won't go to bed with that on my stomach. But the food that I do eat, guys, remember it doesn't really fill me to the point where I'm stuffed. I never feel bloated or anything like that. Hence why I eat wild rice and not regular rice. If I do cheat with regular rice, I'm totally stuffed. But anyway, that's my lunch for today and I'll catch you guys at dinner. Bye. And I'm just like, let me just film this and add this on to what I eat as a vegan. Yellow peppers, red pepper, onions, and some, I think it's called, sobrera peppers. I think that's what it's called. They look like jalapenos, but they're not as hot. And I just have some quinoa on the stove. Let's put some water in there and go from there, guys. I don't think I'm going to put any scallion in there. But because I have onions already, maybe I'm not sure yet. But I will let you guys see everything once I'm done. I think that's it.  I may put some avocado on the side, not too sure yet, but this is going to be my dinner for today. All right, guys. All right, guys, so here's the quinoa. Just the FYI, it's one cup of quinoa, two cups of water. If you're making like maybe a small batch for yourself, a small pot for yourself. All right. And then I do use grape seed oil for everything else that I am cooking, guys. And this is the brand that I use from my local farmers market. Okay. And that's it for now. Let me get the other stuff on the stove. Let me let the oil you heat up here. That's what is pot up, y'all. Can you tell? Let me get the rest of the stuff on the stove and let you guys see that. All right, so I have my quinoa on. I have the water on. And let's change that. So I usually use one cup of quinoa to two cups of water. And the reason why I do that is because cooking this in wild rice is very tricky. My wild rice, I would use one cup of wild rice to like five cups of water. And that's because you're supposed to soak it overnight, but I don't. It just takes too long. So I figured out a way to do it the other way. And I just have my red peppers, yellow peppers and onions in here. And then I will end up putting in my mushrooms and my other peppers. All right, guys. All right, guys. So I'm going to make a mango strawberry banana and dandelion drink today for my dinner with my quinoa. And again, I'm going to use the smoothie one. Meal takes probably about 30 minutes. If that. Yeah, 30 minutes. Because the quinoa doesn't take long to cook. And it does the mushrooms guys. So I'll be back with everything finished. As you guys can see, I put the quinoa in my mushrooms and stuff. I also put a little bit of this. It's good. It doesn't have a lot of sodium and it's vegan. So I'm almost done with everything and let this cook down for a little bit longer. And then I'm done. It looks like a one pot meal or ends up being one pot. All right, guys. All right, guys. So here's everything. Let me see if you guys can see. So that's my quinoa and my green juice. That's it, guys. All right. Until next meal. Bye. Good morning, guys. So today for breakfast, I am just going to make some oatmeal. Make some oatmeal with some peaches. Let me grab my peaches and show you guys. So pretty much, actually, let me give you guys a little panel of the refrigerator. Let me grab this. So I usually leave my peaches and stuff in here. And I have some pears and stuff in there. And you guys can see my ginger, some pineapple, cantaloupe, strawberry, and blueberry. But let me grab one of these and bring it here. Let's just sit it here. So I grab my cutting board. Cutting board. I need a new cutting board, guys. If you hear it going, that's my tea over here. Trying to warm up for me. So that's having me wash, but I'm going to rinse it again. I don't know, but peaches is kind of a little weird for me. Let me rinse this off really quick. I think I have told you guys I wash my fruit and veggies the day I bring them in the home. I don't know. I just feel like there's always little bugs, especially on the kale. So let's put that there. Let me grab a pot, some oatmeal. Let's just sit that there really quick. And I just pour some. Honestly, guys, I really just eyeball it. I do. I'm not very good with measuring. And then I'm going to add some spring water. Sometimes I use walnut milk, but today I'm just going to use spring water. All right. So I have some oatmeal. That may not be enough water, but I'm probably going to add a little bit more. Let me see. Let me cut up my peaches. So I don't know. I told you guys I went to one market out here in Atlanta and I purchased these are not organic. No, sometimes I notice some things when I buy nine organic and opposed to organic. And it kind of makes me think a lot about the stuff. I mean, a lot of the foods we eat, I don't know. Sometimes I even think organic is not even safe to be honest with you. Trying to take us down, guys. I just cut it up just so I can get it inside of my bowl. I ain't going to lie. Sometimes it's like overflowing. It'll be overflowing. It's just a leftover piece. Trash that. So I'm just going to let the oatmeal cook and then come back with the last. I'm going to put a little bit of cinnamon. I have two sentiments here. Sometimes I use regular cinnamon. And then other times when I'm trying to be a savvy baby, I use the saline cinnamon. This is like pure cinnamon guys. So I'm going to use some of this today. And if you guys want to buy this one, this is by Frontier. I'm using co-op and it's organic. So that's the original cinnamon. It tastes completely different. It literally smells like Christmas. Like Christmas cinnamon. Opposed to the other one, which has a much more subtle flavor and smell. So I will pan over once I'm done with everything and let you guys see my quick little breakfast. I think I'm going to, I'm just going to drink some tea today.


How do you get through to these people? So often I see activists and they come face to face with a CEO or somebody and they immediately become very aggressive. Do you realize what you're doing to the planet? Do you realize what you're doing to my future like this? And so the person that they're attacking is immediately defensive. They're immediately thinking, how can I respond to this? How can I deal with this person? And so I've learned over the years, well actually I was kind of born that way. I think it was my mother's education, but it's no good when you meet somebody like that who's dedicated to their path, which may be a destructive path. It's no good trying to get to the brain because their brain is wired for success, for financial success. What you have to do is to get into the heart. And how do you get into the heart with stories? So you find out just a little bit about the person that you want to change and then you try and tell stories that will, even if they don't appear to agree with you at the time, I know for a fact they may go away and think about it and think about it and you may have scored a much bigger point than you thought. I'm over there now. I'm obstinate.  Well, I'm good to prove that you're wrong and I may not be able to directly fight you but I can work my way around underneath. I can instill the right values of compassion, love, respect in the young people and they will gradually grow up and move into those positions. Right from the beginning, you know, when the media first came around and wanted to interview me, I tried to hide away and then I realized that I need the media on my side and I have found that in all my interactions with the media, I think, hopefully including you tonight, if you approach the media right, they will help you spread a message and that's very important to me. But that is also this thing, the media must be, you know, it mustn't take sides. So we report both sides and this I think is a mistake. So reporting fake news and reporting real news shouldn't have the same value somehow. So the media has a very important role and hopefully, at least in many countries, they're rising up to fulfill that important role. Sadly, in some countries, they then get killed. So it's tough in a media. I mean, so many places where people are criticized for not being stronger or tougher. Put yourself in their place and realize that if you're strong and tough, you may be killed. It's difficult. People always ask me why I still have hope. I've got five reasons. I told you one, the young people. Second, the resilience of nature. I talked about the trees coming back around Gombe, animals on the brink of extinction having another chance, forests being saved and regenerating. Social media for the first time ever. We can bring people together from around the world who care about an issue. So they can strengthen each other, strengthen numbers and also the human brain. I mean, we're coming up with solutions faster and faster. And it's important that we realize, use our brains to leave our own light, ecological footprint every single day. That's important. But then finally, there's the indomitable human spirit. And I carry it. He's called Mr. H. He was given to me 28 years ago by a man called Gary Horn. Gary Horn was blinded age 21 in the US Marines. He decided to become a magician. Everybody said, Carrie, how can you be a magician if you're blind? He said, well, I can try. He does shows for kids. They don't know he's blind. At the end, he'll say something might go wrong in your life. You never know. But if it does, don't give up. There's always a way forward. He does scuba diving. He does skydiving. He's taught himself to paint blind, never painted before. Anyway, he thought he was giving me a stuffed chimpanzee for my birthday. And I made him hold the tail. Chimps don't have tails, Gary. And he said, never mind.  So he is my symbol for the indomitable human spirit. The people that you hear about. The people I meet who tackle what seems impossible and won't give up.


And so if you're sitting and just waiting for things to go back to normal, I promise you this, you're going to be left behind. This is possibly the best time to be a human. Today we're going to talk about how to get out of your comfort zone, why it's important to get out of your comfort zone and why it's so hard to get out of your comfort zone. And I want to start off by talking about first off, why your comfort zone exists. Okay.  There's the amygdala, which is the fear part of our brain. It creates these fears and it's the oldest part of our brains, the reptilian part of our brains they call it. And you realize consciously as an adult right now in this conscious moment, you realize that if you get out of your comfort zone and go start this business of your dreams that you're not going to die, you understand that. You consciously understand that, but it doesn't mean that you're subconscious, that the reptilian parts of your brain don't fear going out of your comfort zone.  If I'm out of my comfort zone, there's a possibility that I could die.  Doesn't know that. And so you have to realize that if you're not getting out of your comfort zone as much as possible, as much as possible, your dreams are going to die there. Right?  If you're sitting there and you're thinking about your biggest dream in your life, what is it? I want you to think about that for a second. It's something that is probably so far out of your comfort zone that it makes you a little bit uncomfortable. Right? It does. And that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. But what I want you to realize is this. Comfort kills ambition. Your comfort kills your ambition. Perfect example. If I'm sitting on my couch, playing around on Instagram, looking through and scrolling through, watching, you know, reels and TikTok videos and all of that stuff.  It's easy. It's not hard. I'm just kind of sitting in my comfort zone. No big deal. But if I stay there, it's going to kill all of the ambition that I have in this world. And so what I always remember is something that one of my very first managers told me, one of my very first mentors used to always say, Hey, Rob, you're either green and growing or you're brown and dying. There is no in between. You're either green and growing or you're brown and dying. So I'm constantly asking myself, am I green and growing? Am I, am I forcing myself out of my comfort zone? Am I growing myself mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, or am I just kind of staying stagnant? And you've heard me say this before. If you listen to the podcast for a while, I consciously say the word stagnant on purpose because I'm a very visual person. I know most people are visual, about 60 to 70% of people in the world are visual. So when I say the word stagnant, immediately what pops inside of my head is a dirty, gross pond creek that's not moving. And it's got a film over it. There's mosquitoes and there's bugs and there's gross stuff that's grown inside of it, bacteria, all of that. And so I like to think of my life as I don't ever want to be stagnant. I always want to be moving forward because you're either progressing or you're regressing. That's it. There's no in between.  Some of the biggest thinkers in our world are popping up right now. Some of the biggest companies that are going to change the world are popping up right now. And usually when there's big shifts in the world, like there has been over the past year to 18 months, that's when the people who come out and change the world are found. That's when they show up. And so if you're sitting and just waiting for things to go back to normal, I promise you this, you're going to be left behind. What you should be doing right now is consciously going, you know what?  I need to keep moving forward. You need to start the day leaning forward. And I said this a few months ago, about four or five months ago, is when you think about how you wake up every single morning, if you think about all the actions that you take every single morning, it should be consciously leaning forward. What do I mean by that? As you can sit back and you can wait for the world to happen. You can wait for things to change. And that's kind of like, you know, if you're just waiting for things to happen, that means that you're on the defense. That means that you're on your back foot. You're kind of leaning back a little bit. For those of you guys that can't see me or listen to the podcast, you're leaning back. Just, I hope nothing happens. I hope I can just kind of make it through this time until things go back to normal. I hope it is react and put out fires. No, that's not what you should be doing right now. Right now you should be consciously making yourself as uncomfortable as possible so that you can grow at a higher level and a faster level than anybody else that's out there because the people that are just waiting until things go back to normal are going to wake up in six months or a year or two years or whatever it is when things go quote unquote back to normal. And they're going to realize, oh, I'm really far behind. Why? Because people were doubling down and doubling down and doubling down over the past year, 18 months, however much longer this can possibly go. You've got to start your day leaning forward. So I want you to consciously think of this on a daily basis.    I'm not going to wait to see what the world looks like. I'm going to create it because the world is changing so much right now. You cannot stay the same. You can't stay the same, right? Now is the time for massive growth, for massively pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, growing physically, emotionally, spiritually, financially in your business. It's not the time to sit on the sideline and just hope that things go back to normal.  So why are you here? Why are you on this planet? Now is the time to figure it out. You're needed more than you ever have been, right? Why are you here? How can you help? Those are two questions to start you off on the right foot, to start you off thinking how you can go out and do something good. Because if you're demotivated right now, I'm going to be honest with you. The reason why I find lots of times the reason why people become demotivated is because they're only thinking about themselves. You're thinking too much about yourself. You're thinking too much about what you want to do versus thinking, you know what, with all of the stuff that's happening right now, how can I help? How can I step up? How can I create something powerful in the upcoming months and upcoming year? How can I create something powerful? The people who become the richest entrepreneurs are the people who can solve the world's problems. I'm not saying you have to solve everybody's problem right now. Like you don't have to do that. Maybe you want to, that's a beautiful thing, but you don't have to. So it's up to you. What is it that you want to do? What is it that you want to create? What is it that you're trying to create in this world? It's something important for you to think about and for you to figure out. But a lot of times if you're feeling demotivated is because, number one, you're stuck in your comfort zone and comfort kills ambition. It's hard to be ambitious when you're just sitting around doing the same thing over and over again. And number two, maybe you're thinking too much about yourself. Maybe what you should do is you should think about how you can make a change for the world.  So what's the victory that you need to claim? That you need to score for humanity? And the beautiful thing about it is, and I want to explain this to be very, very, very clear in the way that I explain this.  Right. So the way I always think of it is like Tarzan, right? Let's say that you're Tarzan and you're in the jungle and you're at point A where you currently are and you look across the jungle and you go, all right, I've got to get all the way to the other side of that jungle. So what do you do? You can only hold on to one branch at a time, right? So when you go from one branch, you got to get on to the other one and let go in order to move forward. Well, if Tarzan is going from one side of the jungle to the other side of the jungle, you have to realize he's not going to go forward, forward, forward, forward, forward, forward with every single vine that he grabs. So maybe, you know, he goes for the first one, it's a little bit forward. And then he looks around and he's like, well, which one's next, the next one might actually be just a pivot to the other side. So now he doesn't move forward at all, but he moves from one side to the other side. Okay. Well, that's still movement. That's still moving. Even if it's not in the right direction, it's still moving because sometimes in order to go to the next one, you have to move to the side to get to the one that's in front. And sometimes to get to the one that's in front, you've got to go backwards a little bit to get to the one that's in front. But ultimately, it doesn't matter if you're taking side steps. It doesn't matter if you're taking back steps. It doesn't matter if you're taking forward steps. All that matters is that these steps that you're taking are going towards the path that you want. Knowing Tarzan, he's not going to be able to hit every single vine moving forward. So if I'm going to have to go to the side, some of them are going to have to go a little bit behind because when you go behind, well, then you can reach the one that's forward a little bit easier. So the important thing though is, is are you staying stagnant? Or are you keeping moving? The important thing is to keep moving, not from a place of scarcity, not from a place of fear, because I know that can happen. I get it. Where you can come from a place of scarcity and a place of fear and think, I got to keep moving, man. I got to keep moving. I got to keep moving because, you know, I'm afraid of what the world's going to be. No, I'm not talking about moving forward and keeping moving because you're afraid of what the world could possibly be. I'm talking about moving forward because you want to change the frickin' world because you know the impact that you can have.    This isn't comfortable. Life isn't comfortable. This thing that I'm doing isn't comfortable every single day, but I'm on the offense. I'm on the offense. I'm on the offense. And I realize some of you guys are like, but I've got a family, but I've got to have some time for balance. Listen, I completely understand that. And I'm not saying take time away from your family. Balance is important, but also there's times to be in balance. There's also times to be out of balance. I don't believe that this is a time to be out of balance. And once again, let me be clear. I'm not saying don't spend time with your children. That's the least of what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I don't believe that this is a time to just wait and see what happens. I don't think that this is a time to just go, you know what? I hope that this works out. No, no, no. This is possibly the best time to be a human. Now, I've realized there's stuff happening in the world and the world will never be perfect. Believe me, I understand that. What I'm saying is there's so much opportunity for you around. If you'll just allow yourself to look at it, if you'll stop looking at the things that are bad, if you'll stop looking at the things that are holding you back and you go, you know what? Yeah, there's a lot of opportunity around me with all of the shifting in the world. How can you find the place where you want to be? For me, you know, I think that the thing I've been most grateful for is when things started getting really wonky last year and started getting really weird. I remember when like full lockdown happened, right? I remember thinking the phrase where they talk about war and Buffett, one of the richest men in the world, says when people are greedy, be fearful. And when people are fearful, be greedy. And so I remember thinking to myself, all right, we're going on lockdown, we were in lockdown. And I thought to myself, this is probably a chance that I'll never have again in my life where we're in this lockdown. And I consciously made the decision and said, you know what, if I'm going to impact more people, if I'm going to change the world, I'm going to change my life, I'm going to change everything that I do, I need to double down. And so even though I didn't know what was going to happen, I didn't know how the world would turn out. It didn't look really good when you're watching the news and you're looking at, oh my gosh, there's lockdowns, all that stuff. I went into full on hiring mode. I said, you know what, people are losing their jobs. I'm going to hire more people. Why? Because I could probably get some really great people who want to work, who are eager to work that also want to change the world. And so what did I do? I doubled down in my business when other people were fearful. I think there's still a lot of fear going on right now. What's going to happen? How's the world going to be? How's this going to end? I'm going to create my future, not going to wait to see what happens. So what are you going to do? What do you need to create? You know, I'm constantly thinking to myself, how can I make everything that I do more impactful for the world? How can I constantly be on the edge of my comfort zone every single day? And I can tell you for the past year, I've been on the edge of my comfort zone pretty much every single day. And so I've been saying to myself, how can I change a podcast? How can I make it better? If you've been changed, if you've been following me for a while, you've noticed the massive growth that has happened over the past two years, but one thing else, the massive growth that's happened in the past year and the massive growth of what's happened in where my my content's changed. My podcast has changed my Instagram and Facebook and all of the amount of content that I'm putting out the quality of the content I've invested more money into my business than I ever have over the past year. And it has paid off, but only because I wasn't allowing my stuff to stay in my comfort zone. I said, no, this is the time I'm going to double down. And I've got some, I'm excited to tell you guys, I've got some amazing updates coming into the podcast. I can't tell you what it is. I wish I could share what it is, but now is the not not the time to tell you. We have really exciting updates that's coming in the next few months of things that we're going to do, things that we're going to change, ways that we can serve you guys at a higher level. But ultimately, the reason why I'm saying this is because it all came from the decision last year of I'm going to double down. I'm not going to be fearful.    So how can you constantly make yourself feel uncomfortable? How can you push yourself just a little bit more every single day? And when you feel like you're demotivated, realize maybe you're thinking too much about yourself. Maybe you need to get on the offense to help others. And you ask yourself the two questions I asked you a few minutes ago. Why are you here and how can you help? What does the world need right now? And how can you help that need? How can you put more joy into the world? How can you donate more of your energy, your time or whatever it is? The world has never been so interesting. But also the world has never had so many opportunities out in front of you. So don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to get out of your comfort zone. Now is the time to double down. Now is the time to show what you're worth.  So I want you to realize this. Step out of your comfort zone. Live on the edge of your comfort zone every single day. Live with intention on your front foot on the offense. Don't play in reaction mode and on the back foot. Move towards the front foot every single day. Have a vision of what it is that you're trying to create. And I promise you, one, you're going to impact a lot of people. Number two, you're going to change your own life and bring out the best of you. Hey, thanks so much for watching this video. If you want to learn even more about Master Your Mind, click right here and watch this video as well. There's one thing in this world that I don't want you to be.


Hi. Hey, welcome folks, we'll get started here in a little bit as more folks turn up. Hey guys. Hey. Hey, so we'll get going here in just a second. Well, a couple minutes with a few minutes for folks to turn off. We have just actually now hit the starting time of the meeting. I, my psychology is screwed up with the fact that I now have to show up a few minutes early to start the meeting so that everyone else can join. So it always feels like the meeting has been going for a while when it's actually just started. Oh, there's Frederick. Hello. Hello. Cool. So let's go ahead and dive in. Let me go ahead and share the issues board. We can start there and see where we wind up. All right. So, so I know I owe you a review on some of the further work you've done on the server industry simplification stuff. Denise, because I know you've made some updates. Oh, yep, I have responded all comments. Cool. I still wait for feedback. Excellent. I do apologize. I ended up being pulled in a bunch of different directions I didn't expect in the last couple days. Okay, so the default policy examples. I know we've been merging a bunch of stuff related to that that's actually turned out really well. In terms of like how it's sort of shaping up. I think there's one more that I'm aware of that's outstanding that sort of requiring a rebase around some go blanks the I stuff. Also, I will prepare two seconds policies because of I have provided only two policies of your examples. Yep. Okay, cool, cool. Excellent. So that's moving forward nicely. Then we've got this bug that you've been looking at on inter domain and I see stuff. Oh, we have provided a simple pull request for expand expanding walks. And I have asked the reporter to reproduce the problem with a new logging. Yep. Nope, I see that and we haven't heard back from them. So that's just what it is. On the VL three I know you've been extending that out with DNS I got I took a quick glance over what you're doing with the DNS stuff. And it's, it's interesting because you have this bias which I really like towards trying to keep everything as distributed as possible. There is a DNS protocol for allowing multiple servers serving the same domain to update each other with information. It may not be fully applicable to this problem space, but it's probably worth at least digging into to take a look at. It was, I don't remember the name of it and I'll try and dig it up and send it to you. It may be more oriented because DNS often thinks hierarchically towards how do you have multiple, you know, DNS minions that are getting information from a single DNS master. But it may also allow us to actually essentially do zone exchange information using a native protocol for DNS between the VL three NSCs. So we're definitely worth looking at because if it does do what we need, it would be a very clean solution. This is the sometimes unit tests. This is the go routine leak. I presume that we're still just monitoring this at this time. I wrote fix for it but it seems like it's not covers all cases and the bug still produces. Okay, so let's continue to see if we can figure out what's going on there.  I'm second generation software. I'm a coder like my father before me and one of the things my father taught me as a child was the worst thing code can ever do is run. So things that things that fail and failing, you know, fail fast, fail obviously tend to be much easier to deal with. How is the wire guard GPP plugin going. Last week, I'm around pink using wire gap again. Now it's possible to connect to VPP instances using that. It seems work correctly. I can pink each other. And now I'm working at timers for key freshing for real hand shaking automatically. Okay, excellent. So to make sure I understand you're to the point where you can see sort of basic handshake happening with the standard wire guard implementation. And you can see reasonable connectivity between two VPPs, but there are some timer things that you have to get right before we can see reasonable connectivity with a standard wire guard implementation. Is that correct. I see. I'm looking at I could to plug in for IPsec. It's plugged in for case exchanging. And I try to do it similarly. Okay. Cool. So it sounds like you're making good progress. So that's excellent. So I've seen some pieces of things coming up. Yeah, I'm trying to put small steps and I know again, giving too much of changes at once. So I have the same problem, right? I usually with the time I you see me pushing a patch, I have made at least three really terrible messes of things and had to go and break them up into more logical chunks. So I'm sympathetic. But it does make it enormously easier both to review and to sort of reason about what's happened in the past and to avoid various issues. So did you see the piece about the revert from of 265. Yeah, yeah, we discussed it already. Okay, cool. You know, so basically, I think, I think that that the actual token stuff is being covered more or less correctly in update path. And without the security package, so that's that's definitely there. One of the thing I will mention is it because it's probably something I'm going to be able to enter the next day or two is that the I it turns out that the spiffy V2 API makes it enormously easier to do something clean and simple than the spiffy V1 API. So I'm going to probably be in all landing something. And I'll point you to it when it lands that uses that instead of using it instead of using the spiffy V1 API. So essentially instead of using a TLS peer, it ends up using what's called a X 509 source. And it just ends up being a much cleaner API overall.  And it'll simply it'll it'll be sort of another round of the world getting much simpler, which is always welcome. Yeah, sounds good. Cool. So I think you said you think you've got the metric stuff sorted out. We're keeping this open just because you sort it out as far as it can go and we'll take a closer look when we're a little further along and see where we stand. Actually, I'm inclined to just close this if you're comfortable with that. Yeah, yeah. Cool. So I don't think we have any of the folks who are working on the kernel piece on this call right now. Unless I'm mistaken, if you are working on the kernel for order, please speak up. I've seen some pieces pushing some initial srio v folder code. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're working into directions for areas working on forward your initial parts and series working on a pocket site to check all the stuff we need. So the guys will start pushing some chain elements. Very soon to work with real srio v and so on. So I discussed internally, we will start with implementing implementing some testing epam like endpoint, which will provide virtual functions address. And before into the main we'll be ready for new SDK, we will be able to check where srio example with just this way. So I guess seven points, we will have real srio v forwarder and it will connect. Fantastic. I've also seen Sergey interacting with the scene of testbed folks and asking good questions about getting srio v stuff up in packet. So, is that, is that continuing to go well from your perspective Sergey. Thank you for introducing Michael and Taylor to me. They're great guys. It's very helpful, helpful. Yeah, they're, they're, they're literally, they're two of the nicest guys in tech, frankly. And so they're, they're, they're wonderfully helpful. And they're also sort of spread across time zones. I know Michael's in Europe, and Taylor's in the US but works a lot internationally. And so hopefully that that's a little helpful.  And I appreciate that very much but anything that makes it easier is probably good. And you do have access to packet now. Yeah, yeah. Perfect. Excellent. Standard. The standard comment I'll make on that is the packet servers are being donated by packet to CNCF and CNCF is gracious enough to make them available to us.  So that week, that's awesome. But do make sure when you sort of get to a point where you're done with a server that you you delete it because we don't want to have servers hanging out forever. It's unkind to people who are being very generous with us. So, okay. We got some of the bits and then okay so those are the week on through those the command for their piece on I've had some things land already. I'm continuing to sort of push some of that forward. At one for forward there, I think it's missing kids registration to this manager. Oh, that's absolutely still missing. It's absolutely still missing. No, you're 100% correct I'm part of the reason that I haven't quite done that yet is just just to be completely honest is that in order to bring it up to the point where I can test it end to end. I actually don't quite need to register it. Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah. So, and the sort of like get something working get the next thing working it's sort of the last thing I need to get working. Still important, but last piece. Other quick question is now that you guys have had a little bit more time to look at the patterns there. What what do we what do we think we might improve there in terms of the patterns. But it's still in my local wrapper. It sounds good actually to move from a Corba to this new configuration with struct way. It's much easier, I think. Yeah, I, and in general makes more, more easy and more small and clean application. I was super happy. The other thing that I realized that took me a long time to realize about the MV config is, because they're able to use all these various interfaces like you know, text on Marshall and binary and Marshall and whatnot. Most things we care about. We don't have to write on marshallers for. They're just there. So, and it was super funny because just before I pushed up that pattern. I literally had an entire raft of on marshallers that I realized I had put a lot of effort into that I didn't need and that made me happy. Because I could get rid of them. The leading code is good for the soul. Okay, that's good. And I know you had made a comment which is absolutely true that if you do end up using the local directory that a lot of the sort of build speed enhancements go straight to hell. This is, this is also true if you happen to use the debug mechanism for debugging the application debugging the testing. So if you happen to have any smart ideas that are sort of simple and elegant about improving that situation I'd be very interested. Yeah, at the moment, I've just installed this fire and spiffy locally to my Mac just start them and use the environment variable locally. Without using Docker and just do the bug for me D. Well, it works well. Quite frankly, for the stuff you're doing with the network service manager which basically is completely agnostic as to operating system. If you have the testing for the binary actually start them and tear them down. Then you can probably just run go test and everything will be fine. Actually, we could try to adapt the approach, which I've used it for monorepo sometime ago. It's, it was for the background. Actually, when I've mounted the entire tree to a background volume into the Docker into the Kubernetes port itself and started and restarted and compiled site. Real board inside the Kubernetes. So it was most fast. Okay, no, I mean that that that's that's actually that's an interesting approach that the real tricky part with that is with anything is how to make it very simple and elegant and close to existing patterns. You know, you sort of see, see the evolution in public of like the hideous things that I did the first turn of the crank. And I think I'd like to believe they've gotten better, but they were really ugly the first turn. Okay. So, the OPA stuff is moving forward. So the authorization chip monitor chain elements, I'm actually super happy how those are turning out, frankly, the authorization monitor chain elements. One of the things I really like about the way they're sort of turning out is, they aren't actually welded to OPA. Because we will we definitely want to use OPA, you really don't want to sort of. You can view some technology, even if technology is good as OPA or technology is good as spiffy. You don't want to have that running throughout your code if you can help it. Because, you know, world the world is strange and sometimes you're wrong, which actually brings me to a question I know I had asked Denise this earlier in some of the OPA stuff. The input in addition to passing TLS info and passing the connection were parsing out separately the spiffy ID. And I was curious why. Oh, it was implemented by Dmitry. I did not look yet why he's implemented it. I mean, the reason I was asking and we should probably just ask Dmitry if he's if he's around is that I can't currently think of a reason why we would do that and it does sort of produce a welding in the system. But that doesn't mean there isn't a reason. Lots of times people think of really smart things that haven't occurred to me and that I can't see the reasoning for you yet. Yeah, at least for when as manager I've using spiffy ID as identity for a client or endpoint, because we've single entry point like one GPC server it's impossible to distinguish different clients, one from another. So just one way it's to use some identity from a certificate. So I actually had been thinking a similar sort of idea, quite frankly. And so like let's take a look at how we're doing that because I think that's probably the right thing to do we just want to make sure we do it in a way that has a light touch, in terms of how it binds us to spiffy, if that makes sense. I'm not bind to spiffy itself I just take the URL from a certificate. So it's not directly bind to spiffy. So, okay, could have different mechanisms which will extract the identity from a certificate. One is to use a URL bound to a certificate. Okay. Yeah, I know I mean there's, there's a lot of good ways to do it and quite frankly. That's one of the ideas that I actually kind of liked because then you've got, then you're using a straightforward name for a thing. So. Okay, so that's, that's, that's definitely good. All right, and then the go mod control playing the three stuff. Okay, I actually need to go back and respond to that particular fellow. The installation failure issue that we had here. Have we gotten help v3 in or is there some particular reason why not. I think I forgot about it, we check it. Just, I think, merge button need to be click it. Okay, yeah, I mean something else. Okay, so I mean, if, if, if, you know, like I said, if there's actually a problem where we can't get home v3 working, that's fine. But if we can, we've actually had quite a few people who seem to want to use this with home v3. So it would probably be good to get that going. Yeah, you can just click the merge button and Okay, cool. Okay, so yeah. So I mean, if it's actually I'm more than happy to merge it if you guys are saying it's actually in good shape. I'm always, I'm always a little bit leery with patches that are that are dissolved just because You know the presumptions are some reasons. Okay, that's merged. Yeah, if something go wrong, we will repair additional fix for monorepo. Awesome. So that's gone in. And so hopefully we'll get that close to here shortly. So I guess that folks need before we sort of break is in about, you know, a few minutes we should probably start heading over to start the other meeting. Yep, I have one question. Can you please open advanced OPA policies issue. Sure. You can scroll up in progress list. Okay, thank you. Yes. Yes. And here I have one question related to single cluster as what's the example. Am I understand correctly that as what's it is just something like chain of manager clients. No, you're completely correct. So this is one of those things where unfortunately sometimes the networking terminology bleeds in. So what we call composing network services together in a chain is is very similar to a use case and networking that's often called service function chaining. Now we don't usually use that term. When we're talking to the public about this, because while all the networking people go aha service function chaining, everyone else goes, what, because it doesn't mean anything to them that it's confusing. So, but yes, that's exactly it. It's things like the Sarah story with a chain of things. And second question, should we include in the chain registries in the chain registries. I don't follow something like clients did request to manager manager did request to registry. Okay, so you're saying so the client sends a network service request or the client does a look up of a service. Oh, yep. My point here that manager did request to its local registry. So my question is, should we include this registry in the as we say, well, so that the or it's also it's only this is an interesting. So typically speaking that the network service chain that you're dealing with when you're dealing with a composition of this sort. So this is what you're asking is actually a very subtly intelligent question. Because traditionally when you have a chain where you for example had a client and then a VPN, or in a firewall and then a VPN. Then, you know, essentially, what you have in the middle there that we never talk about our things like the network service managers, right, which are part of the path, but we don't sort of logically talk about as being part of the chain usually. Let's let's take this offline and chat a little bit over text after the meetings, because I think you're thinking about thinking about things in a very smart way. But I don't, but which makes me reluctant to give you too fast an answer, because the way I think about the world know you would not actually have the registry as part of the SFC chain. That may actually be a misleading answer because you're probably not thinking about it quite the way I do, but it sounds as if you're thinking about it in a very smart way. So I want to understand you're thinking better. Cool. So we are we are now about five minutes up from the meeting at the top of the hour. Yeah, anything else before we break for that. Just a minute of funny. You can open a link in the chat. It's very funny message why builders fail it after we merge to help. Let me say, hang on. Oh, so to say that he checkers failing. Could somebody please get on that. Yeah, it's just because we're all different. So guys, we don't want it from very sorry for our bills failed. Oh, so yeah, just just getting the shell check going. Okay, so. All right. Cool. All right, anything else before we bounce. All right, talk to you later. Well, talk to you in two minutes basically. See you.


In this video, I want to talk about being a creator that you are without any excuses and being able to create when you want to create, rather than only when you feel inspired. So I am now, I've completed four months of building my brand new site business, The Secret Project that nobody here knows what it is, but I will reveal one day. And I've been learning again what it means to be consistent and what it means to have faith, keep the faith about a business that's going to happen down the road, but really just in the first year, I'm creating content and growing an audience. And that's really what, you know, a lot of you are learning to, you're just starting, some of you are just starting out, or maybe you're, you're at some point in your business where you're creating something new, and you've got to keep the faith that it's going to work. Right? So that's where I am right now. So I can hopefully relate to you better. Later on, I'm going to post an article connected to this video, which will give more details on what I'm learning now from, from after four months of doing this. But let me just give you a couple of the, the key lessons. One of them is no excuses. Okay. So the reason why this is so important is because something that is a sign, something that's a sign for somebody to say, well, today is not the day to decree, today is not the day to do what I planned. For somebody else, it's an excuse. And you have to decide what that means for you. So that's why this is such a tricky lesson to learn. So for example, today I'm not in a very good spot. I didn't get much sleep last night. In fact, I think I had a conscious out of body experience last night. That's for another video. But anyway, I didn't sleep so well. And then this morning I posted something in a group I'm part of that I think was kind of judgmental to, to some people and, you know, a lot of people hated it. And so that was, that was kind of shocking to me. So I don't think I'm in the right mindset today, the right brain, brain chemistry is not quite working well. But guess what? I'm here. I could have made an excuse and said, Oh, I'm not feeling up for it today. I just doesn't feel like it today. Not going to be very good video, but I'm here anyway. And I'll just make a bad video. If I can't make a good video, I'll make a bad video. And that is really one of the secrets to my success. I just do what I plan the best that I can. And if it's going to be bad, it's going to be bad. But at least I showed up, right? And I'm sorry that this is going to be a bad video, right? But that's what, that's, you know, I used to know somebody who, I mean, she actually told me this herself that whenever she wanted to focus on creating something, like she focused on working on her purpose, there was always some family tragedy that took her away from working on her purpose and working on it. And she saw the pattern and she even admitted to me that, yeah, that is, it's a pattern. I want to focus on creating and work on my purposeful business. But then family tragedy happens, a relative dies, someone needs help in my family and I have to go and help them and I can't do my business, I can't create. That's what she said. I didn't say it for her. She said it herself. And I'm like, wow, that's really interesting. And I believe her. You know, I believe that our human minds are so powerful, are so powerful that we are able to create tragedy in our life in order to give us a powerful enough reason to stop working on our purpose, working on our business, working on our creation, creativity, so that we can attend to this tragedy. Now I know that sounds cold and I'm probably again not in the brain, right brain chemistry today to be compassionate, but it's not so much cold as I'm actually, I'm a huge believer in the power of your mind. I believe you have such a powerful mind that you can create situations that take you away from your purpose and your creativity because you're scared. When it comes to your own purpose, when it comes to fulfilling it and creating something that really matters to you deeply, you're scared.  It's your purpose.  But one of the other secrets of my success, if you can call it that, is that I've come to realize that no matter what I do, I cannot screw up my purpose. No matter what I do, I cannot screw up my business if I keep showing up. That's the one thing that will always make up for any mistakes that I make. That's the consistency of showing up is the savior of any mistakes and of any bad videos, bad blog posts, bad launches, bad outreaches, bad messes, whatever, whatever bad, doesn't matter. If I consistently show up, it will always solve the problem. It will always eventually make up for it. So the question is whether you're willing to do that, whether you're willing to commit to it. So this past month, I could have made a lot of excuses for showing up in my side business, which I do only two hours a week. So it's easy to say no to that. Two hours a week. I'll just do it next week. No. I showed up. I had to go travel to help my mom. She recently was injured. I had to travel. And during that week of travel, I could forget the two hours of working on my side business. I'm traveling, helping my mom. It's too much family stuff right now. But no, I said boundaries with my mom. I said, all right, hey, I got to go work on this thing. And I'll be back. It's two hours. I can do that. It doesn't matter how much your family needs you. You can carve out two hours a week to work on your side business. If I can do it, you can do it. I also got food poisoning this past month. And that took me out for about a week. I mean, I wasn't bedridden for a week. Even if I was bedridden, I would still carve out the two hours to work on my thing. But I was certainly not feeling myself for a week. It wasn't fun. But I still did my work. I still did my work. I still showed up. Let's see what else happened to me this week. Oh, also, this month, I decided to change the name of my business. My new side business, which you don't know what the name is. The original name I was always not so sure about. But even when I was not so sure, I still went full force. Full force into creating content, buying. By this point, I spent about $700 on Facebook ads in the last four months. $700 in four months, more than that now. I think it's close to 800 now in four months. Even though I wasn't sure about the name, I don't care. I don't care if the name's not right, because I know I can always change your name later. So you still, it doesn't matter if your website's not done. The name's not right. You still create content. You still build an audience. Because when it's time to change the name, it just creates another opportunity for you to get your business more noticed. Hey, you've got a better name now. Great. Right? So that's what I did this past month. I changed the business name to something that is better than it was before. And I might still change it in the future. My brand might still completely change. But I don't let that stop me from building an audience and creating content. That's the number one job in the beginning of your business. It's never too early. I don't even know what my product's going to be. My product could be something completely different than what I have in mind right now. But I am still building an audience you see. You don't give up on that. You don't say, well, let me wait until I've got everything clear. Now I'm not clear. The name wasn't even clear until now. I mean, a name might still change. So I had a hard time this month because when I tried to change the name of my Facebook page, Facebook declined. It's Facebook, because no, you can't change your name. The name you want now, it's too different from the name you had started with. And I already built an audience, spent $800 building an audience. And now they won't let me change the name. So what could I do? While I appealed the name change, and that's going to take a week or two to figure it out. So even though the name change might not happen, right, just during this past month as well, I still continue my content rhythm. I don't let any excuses stop me. And I want you to have that same mindset. No excuses. None. It doesn't matter if family tragedy happens, doesn't matter if you get sick, doesn't matter if your name is not going to be accepted by Facebook. No excuses, you see. You still build an audience. You still build an audience, even though the brand might completely change and the audience go, what? It's a new brand? Yes.  So let me tell you what happened. I tried the name change. They declined it. I appealed it. They declined it again. So this is now two weeks into the attempted name change. Now what I do is I figure it out. No excuses, right? So I could abandon this page with $800 of spending on Facebook ads. I could abandon the page and start a brand new page. But still, even if I start a brand new page, I could still advertise to my old audience and say, hey, I'm over here now. That's fine. No excuses. You just keep going. But here's what I did. I tried to be creative. I go, OK, what can I do differently now? OK. What I did was I then contacted Facebook ads support because I've spent $800 on Facebook ads, right? So I contacted Facebook ads support team, which you can do. If you spend money on Facebook ads, you can contact the Facebook ad support team. And I say, hey, listen, I really want to change the name because the Facebook algorithm thinks it's too different. But let me explain to you why it's not actually that different. It really has a similar meaning. It just sounds very different, but it's a similar meaning. And I want to spend a lot more money on Facebook ads when you consider the name, helping me out with the name change. And they did. I had to follow up one more time with the Facebook ads team. So basically four more, you know, four total contacts, two with just the Facebook page team and two with the Facebook ads team. And they finally let me change the name. I explained it to them. I told them how much money I've spent and I'm going to spend more money and they let me change the name. So anyway, no excuses, right? No excuses, no matter what. Oh, another another thing was I was using Focusmate, which I love. I still use Focusmate all the time. And during that, during that, during the past month, I had, I was working on my side business and during that, during that time, two of my Focusmate sessions canceled last minute. So I wouldn't, I wasn't going to have some accountability. And I could say, ah, you know what? I scheduled to work on my business, but Focusmate sessions canceled. So I'm not going to work on it anymore. No excuses, show up anyway, even without a Focusmate partner there. I'm still going to show up and do my, do my own work. No excuses, none. And here's what happens when you live a life of no excuses. Go find that your life, the universe will shape itself to your purpose. Your unit, when you decide no excuses and when you demonstrate to the universe that you don't make any excuses, you show up, like for example, this one, right now, I shouldn't be making video. I didn't get enough sleep. I'm kind of loopy right now, but I'm still here. I'm still making the video. I'm telling a couple of benefits to that one, the universe will shape itself to allow you to fulfill your purpose, to allow you to do your creative work.  The universe will say, you know what? Since you're not giving that any energy, you're not putting any drama to it. Yeah, you can take care of family tragedy. Yeah, you'll take care of yourself, your health or whatever, but you're not giving any drama to, you're not letting it be an excuse. So I'm going to support you in doing your work. That's what the universe does. And I say universe, I mean your mind, however you want to say it's, it's your mind is really the universe, right? Because you create your reality, whether you believe that as a spiritual principle or whether you believe that as an atheist, a secular principle, it's true. You create your reality. You set your boundaries and other people will follow your boundaries. Other people will follow your boundaries. That's the reality of it. And what's also weird is that if you make a new excuse to life, you will be healthier because once you have said sickness will not be an excuse anymore.  It's the weirdest thing. So I've had really good health for the past, really, I would say probably four or five years since I've lived a new, no excuses life.  The food poisoning happened. It was a rare thing. I haven't gotten food poisoning for like 10 years or probably 20 years. But it happened because, you know, I had some bad sushi. Doesn't matter. I still kept working my schedule and, you know, my body says my body probably healed more quickly than it would have. Anyway, no drama. Just don't give any drama to it. You're the one giving the drama to the, to the excuses. You're giving energy to it. So, oh, I'm so tired. Oh, I'm so sick. Oh, my family needs me. Oh, of course you're not going to do your work because you are the one giving all that energy to it.  I bring the drama to my videos. That's where I bring drama.  You know, my writing. That's where I put the drama. My life, no drama. Bad things happen. Of course it's going to happen. I don't give any drama to it. I don't give any energy. I just solve the problem. If it's, if it's within my control, I do my best to solve the problem calmly. No drama. No drama, right? And so your life becomes calmer. You've come healthier. You get the work done. And the universe, basically, you've given a sign to the universe saying, Oh, bad things happen. Not as an excuse to stop my work. Bad things happen as a test to whether I am going to persevere with my purpose. It's just, you can interpret either way, right? It's either a roadblock and roadblocks redirect you from doing your work today or to roadblock. Let me figure out how to get around the roadblock so I can keep continuing doing my work that I planned, right? So, so that's, I'll just end the video by, by saying, you know, this is why I am able to create on schedule versus I hear from so many of you, and I'm sorry, I don't mean to, I don't mean to criticize you. And, and today I'll just say I really am in a more of a feisty mood today. So I probably less compassionate than I usually am. But when I see you say that you only create when you're inspired, what I, what I hear from that is you only create when you feel like it, which means you don't create very often. You don't create very consistently. And you'll never create consistently when you tell me that you only do it when you're inspired. George, I can't make videos until I'm inspired. George, I can't write until I'm inspired. George, I can't do my marketing until I'm inspired. Fine. Okay. All right. Let's start with that. Then my question for you is, what are you going to do to make sure you are inspired on schedule? What are you going to practice to ensure that you are going to be inspired on demand? That's what I want you to do. Then that's what I do. Right. I am I inspired right now?  Now it's not forced. I'm not saying it's hustle and it's unpleasant. No, it's not unpleasant. It's just I made a decision. I decided that I'm going to be inspired right now. And of course it's the video didn't start very inspired, but once I got into it, see, that's the key. This is the same with any personal change. The same process is this. I make a decision that it's going to be, I'm going to I make a decision to do something that is outside my comfort zone. I go ahead and do it badly, willing to do it badly. And then once I start doing a badly, badly, badly, badly, and then it gets easier and then it's going to be okay. And then I might even become inspired during the process. Maybe, maybe not. I'm not going to judge myself and I'm not going to judge the process. I'm simply going to follow the process that I know works. So create on a schedule, not when you feel inspired. Okay, this morning, I was tired. I was tired this morning, but I still wrote a whole block post. That's about 1200 words, actually approximate. Actually, how many words is that I'm going to count onto a word count right now because I have it in front of me. 1400 word blog posts when I was feeling tired this morning. It's not going to be a very good blog post because I'm probably rambly in the blog post because I'm tired. But I wrote anyway and I'm going to share it with you.  Right. And I still am building some muscles being a bad creator today, still building it, still doing it. And by the way, I think it's bad. Right. But you probably think it's pretty good. You probably get something from it and you probably don't judge it as harshly as I judge it because we are always our harshest judge. Right. If we allow ourselves to judge ourselves. I allow myself to judge myself. It's just that I don't allow myself to not publish. That's the difference. I say, yes, this is a bad video. Yes, this is a bad blog post, but I'm still going to publish. No excuses. It's on the schedule. I'm going to do it. Now, of course, being my own boss means I can change my schedule, but I don't change it. Here's the thing. I don't change it in the moment because I don't feel like it. That's not the time to change your schedule. You change your schedule a week or two or a month in advance. Maybe a day in advance is even kind of dangerous because then, you know, I don't feel like doing it tomorrow. You can easily say that. But when you feel it, you know, like when you're planning your schedule, hopefully you're in a good mind. Well, even so, you could be a bad planner. That's okay too. But you see what I mean? You don't change your schedule in the moment when you don't feel like it. And here's something else I'm trying and you're going to think I'm crazy. But I heard about the benefits of a cold plunge.  But so the way I do it is I, I, I, I, when I, what I used to do when I go to take a shower is I used to let the water run until it got warm and then I stepped in the shower. That's what a lot of us do. Right. Sounds normal. But I'm like, you know, it's wasting water and too, I heard about the benefits of a cold plunge. So maybe if I get into the shower while it's still warming up, that's kind of like a cold plunge because then, then the water warms up and I'm, you know, I'm okay. So I gave it a try. I gave it a try. I, yeah, so I, I basically jumped into the shower when the water was still cold. And because I read about the benefits of it, like somehow your blood vessels change and you reduce inflammation. There's a lot of benefits to jumping into the water cold. So I did that. Regardless. So, and that, that's an extreme case because it's really, really physically uncomfortable. It's a shock to the system. It's, it's, it's not comfortable. It's not pleasant. But then the, here's the personal change process. You see something that's, you see an action that's beneficial. Okay. Step one, you make a decision that I'm going to do the action that's beneficial, even if it's going to be uncomfortable at first, you do the action, it's uncomfortable at first. Okay. And then step next step, it gets easier.  That's the first positive personal change process versus the thing that will spiral you into hell is this. You do what's pleasant knowing that it's going to have detriment later down the road. You do what's pleasant first and then you have detriment for a long time versus you do what's unpleasant first and you have benefits for a long time. That's really simply, you have a decision every single day with any habit. Eating, exercise, creating your business. It's the same decision. Pleasant first, regret later or unpleasant first gladness for a long time. So it's up to you to make that decision. And when you make an excuse, it's pleasantness first and regret later. You're making that choice. No excuses, unpleasant first gladness later. Okay. Gladness later. So anyway, I hope this is helpful and I guess all that's probably, and one more thing I'll say if I can share with you a little bit about my personal spiritual beliefs and please stop this video if you don't want to hear my personal spiritual beliefs, I believe that we chose to come into this life that and after we leave, it's going to be celebration, gladness. Look at what you've learned. Look how brave you were coming into this, you know, earth life is very painful. It's very challenging.  Okay. Like you are like one of the brave souls who decided to come to this difficult reality. You are one of the brave ones. And when you did it, it's like jumping into the cold shower.    With all the tragedies that you're going to experience, that you have already experienced all the trauma you've experienced and you will experience, you've already come here. So you might as well do it with purpose and you might as well do it without excuses. Knowing that afterwards is going to be celebration, gladness, warmth, love all the time. It's hard to grow. It's hard to grow spiritually. It's, I should say, flip it around. It's much easier to grow spiritually while you're here in this physical body, in this hardship of earth life. Very, it's much easier to grow spiritually here when you get over there, when it's all love, it's all easy. It's all pleasantness all the time. It's really hard to grow your character, right? Because everything's so easy over there. Here it's not. So will you make a decision to face unpleasantness first so that you can have lots of gladness later? All right. So thanks for joining me for this video. Robin, Tanya, Becky, Alejandra, Miriam, Yule, Captain, Jill, thanks for hanging out today. And yeah, thanks for your comments, everybody. Yule says, this is very encouraging. I'm now building my business after hours because I had to go back to a formal employment, but I'm clear on why I'm doing it. Yule, I'm proud of you. There is nothing wrong about going back to full employment. I'm actually glad you did so that you can build your business without financial pressure. Too many people try to build a business with so much financial pressure. And it's hard because you will make inauthentic decisions. It's so easy to manipulate, to deceive other people, to buying your thing because you're desperate for money. So many people do that. But when you have a financial cushion, then you can really build an authentic business, you know. So kudos to you and I'm proud of you. Doesn't matter what kind of job you need to get, get the job. And then so you can be anyway. So thanks for being here. I hope this is beneficial for you.  Whatever your vision is, you can absolutely achieve it, but it's up to you. It's up to you whether you make excuses every day or not. All right. And I know this might be shocking to you. You're like, what are you? Gary Vaynerchuk here? No, I'm not. I actually respect him a great deal. But I would rather frame it as this.  You got to be like, by the bullet. No, I'm not that kind of a no excuse. No excuses because it grows your soul. No excuses because that's why you're here in this life. You're here for courage.   What I feel, if you feel it's your divine purpose, then don't make any excuses. God is saying, right? The universe is saying, well, you do this, I'm going to give you a test. Here's a tragedy. Here's your sickness. Here's your tiredness today. Here's your lack of inspiration. What are you going to do with it? Are you going to be courageous? Are you going to be, no, no, my purpose is more important than my tiredness. My purpose is more important than my lack of inspiration. Be purpose driven. Be purpose driven, my friends. All right, go for it.