Welcome to Sheboygan County government working for you. My name is Adam Payne, County Administrator and co-host of this program with Chairman Roger Distruty. And as you know, once a month we strive to bring a different program or service to your attention that we're proud of and that we have excellent county employees working to implement. And this month, we have our HR director with us, Miss Jean Gallimore. Welcome. Thank you, good to be here. You know, the honeymoon period is over for Jean. She was just sharing with Roger and I off the air, this is your third program. And I think you're, has it been two years now with Sheboygan County? Yeah. So some of you probably have had the pleasure to meet Jean. And I know she's from this area or at least has lived here for quite some time. Why don't we start with that? Share a little bit about yourself and your family. Great. Yes, I'm actually from Sheboygan. So all my life I spent a couple years away during college years and came back as I have a large family, family of 10. So siblings are across the country now. My parents and their families grew up in the Marshfield area. So all kind of Wisconsin, Wisconsinites, but settled in Sheboygan with my husband's family. We have three boys, two adults, and one that is on his way to becoming a young fine man. They're leaving the nest. They are, they are. Yeah, which I can relate to. Well, if you haven't met a Gallimore, you haven't been out. You need to meet this family. We're so tickled to have Jean with us. Before this, she was working with what? Blue Harbor, when that started and helped kick things off there, right? We did. We opened the resort. They're a family of the Great Wolf Resorts, or we're at the time. So I spent eight years as an HR director and then prior to that, about 17 years with Wells Fargo in the human resources management role. Yeah, well, it's been remarkable the last year, all the improvements that you and your team have made. And we'll talk about that a little bit more later, but please set the stage for our viewers a little bit. What are the primary roles and responsibilities of an HR human resources department? Right, you bet. Primarily, I would start with really the recruitment and then certainly retention of our employees. As our employees typically, as any organization say, they are our number one asset, recruitment and retention is key. Along with that would become our compensation, our pay plans, and our benefits for our employees. So very important pieces. We also work very closely with our employees along the lines of wellness, safety, diversity type initiatives, certainly workers' compensation, affirmative action and that type. So that kind of sums up the big picture. Very, very high end summary, because a lot going on you're supporting about 825 employees throughout the organization. How many employees in HR and what is your department annual budget? Right, we currently have four full-time employees and two part-time employees in human resources. Our current annual budget is just over 500,000, about 512,000. But there again, working with an organization with about 825 employees, $127 million operating budget, a lot going on to support these employees, a lot of change with employees. Largely born by the state level. How many employees, for example, do we have that are non-barking versus under a contract? We currently have about 820 employees. Of that 820, just over 200, about 210 are within contracts. So we have about 150 within our Rocky Knoll contract and then about just over 50 within our Sheriff's Department, the deputies and detectives. And of those employees, how many do you like and how many don't you know? Like all of them. They're all wonderful. They are, we've got a great team. You started right on the onset, saying that what Roger and I and certainly our organization firmly believes in any good company or business will tell you, your employees are your most valuable asset. We want to attract and retain excellent employees. And recently you grabbed the reins and we went through a countywide employee compensation study. Again, covered the entire county. Set the stage a little bit for that. What did we do and why? Right. So post act 10, a lot has changed. So culturally within the county and we'll talk about some of those changes as we continue to talk. We had a need to take a look at every five to seven years, typically every organization should take a look at their compensation plan. And to your point of that recruitment and retention of a talented workforce. We also had that need at the county. So we reached out to a consultant out of Minneapolis who this is what they do. They take a look at compensation plans and make sure of a couple of things. We wanted to take a look we currently had and still have in place this year, eight different compensation tables. So quite a challenge to manage that with the diversity of our group of employees. So the compensation study was to certainly take a look at how could we streamline the compensation tables. How do we ensure though that we continue to be able to retract and retain. So we really tasked the consultant with going out and comparing our salaries, our current conditions to really the market conditions with both private and public sector data. So we tasked them with making sure that we can be competitive as an employer within those salary tables. We also took a look at our current job descriptions to make sure that they were up to speed because those can tend to be outdated. So we tasked our employee group to really work with their managers and their supervisors to ensure current data. So we could then take the job descriptions and appropriately market price to similar jobs in those public and private sectors. So streamlined eight or nine different salary schedules which was again very challenging to administer and different variables across the board. I recall updating our position descriptions such that we had about 200 different job titles and now it's closer to 100. You mentioned that we addressed some of the have and have nots and I know longevity was a longstanding benefit or compensation approach in the county and as time has gone on, some employees were receiving it, some weren't. What happened with that? So the longevity discussion is certainly a sensitive discussion for the county and the county leadership and we recognize that. So a group of really just committee after committee continued to meet to discuss the sensitivity. We engaged employees, we engaged management team on the input and as an end result, we worked with Gallagher, the compensation study and said, you know what? What are other organizations doing? What are other companies doing? So a lot of survey information was collected along with that engagement of those employees and really as an end result, the thought was to roll longevity into the employees' base pay of those employees who currently had received longevity. So they didn't lose it. They did not lose. Which happened in some other counties. Correct, there was a number of. In fact, we were one of few that decided to roll longevity in. Okay, so they didn't lose that compensation. Now we have more of a playing field where we don't have the have and have nots and another big change that came out of the compensation study as you know and Roger knows is rather than paying everyone the same regardless of their ability, regardless of their performance, everyone getting the same across the board increase. Now we have a pay for performance model. How does that work? What's that mean? Right, so our current plan, how it compares currently to where we'll move to this paper performances, we currently have steps that automatically would happen if you were in a position for example for six months or 12 months or 18 months depending on that former bargaining contract. And so performance wasn't necessarily reviewed on a consistent basis for all those positions in those departments. As we look, we also currently have a merit pay program. So a merit pay program takes a little bit of a closer look at how does that performance tie in to what that would qualify potentially for that employee to have a salary increase. So those plans today are in place. The paper performance came again as a result of the compensation study and the consultant saying this is kind of where we're moving. So really the paper performance will take effect as of January 1st. What that entails is the study again, the recommendation was to take a look at eliminating the steps processes within the compensation plan and really that merit piece and the across the board increases, those automatics. It we will move to as of January 16th with the exception of the two collective bargaining units to complete paper performance, which means each employee will be held to minimum standards of qualifications and expectations for positions. It allows us then to also really award and recognize those outstanding performers. So it will be very much for the last couple of years we've tied into performance management training. We've really tweaked our performance evaluation tool itself to make it user friendly. We've engaged our management team in on that to say what do you like, what don't you like, what's working. So they've had a taste of this for a couple of years and now it's time to fully apply that tool come January. So everyone will receive a performance review that will be tied to that potential merit increase. Which isn't unusual in the private sector and more and more public sector organizations are going to. What I like about it, and Jean of course we've been working on this for the past year but what I like about it is rather than every employee receiving an across the board increase, usually CPI is what the board's been doing. So right around 1.2%, 1.5% increase, which is a modest increase, but everyone got the same. And we'd have employees say, well, I'm concerned about going to pay for performance. We should maybe keep the status quo and of course responded to that was do you really want to continue to be paid the same increase as the least productive co-worker that you have? Not necessarily someone that's being let go because they're not doing the job but just barely doing enough and they're getting the same increase as someone who's just an outstanding performer. What does that do to drive innovation and everyone raising the bar and doing more? So with pay for performance, yes, everyone's got to meet minimum expectations as you have in the past, but now if you meet those minimum expectations you receive an increase of some level of the board will support and those outstanding performers can be rewarded and actually receive more. And I like that that we can reward our best and the brightest. I think that's how you keep good people working for you. Last question and I'll turn it over to the chairman. The process itself, how did we make sure that we engaged our employees not only during the development of the compensation study and gathering information, but also informing them of the recommendations of the consultant, how were they engaged? Okay, really the process started over a year ago and what we did initially is we brought the consultant on to town and we invited our key management team and then those employees that could afford to kind of get away to those meetings and I think it was important initially in the county made the right first move there to invite employees in to say this is what a compensation study is. This will be our approach. This is our approximate timeframe so that knowledge at the front end was key. Following that it was truly a process where we collected all the job descriptions. The management team was to go to those employees, engage the employees on the actual job that they're doing to ensure that we capture the main functions and responsibilities of that position. Once that was complete through last summer the consultant then reviewed each job description and certainly said there's similar jobs so we created some job families within so we went from those 200 titles to about 100 but then also from there checked in with our department head team several times throughout the late last year to say are we on task, here are the job descriptions, are you sure we've captured everything? And here during that time also did that market pricing piece of the project so they went out and studied other counties in private sectors of like size and really compared them and contrasted where our salary ranges were at. So once again after that piece of the project was done we engaged our key leaders to say do you think we're on target, here's the preliminary data. That being said throughout that time as well we continued to communicate with our all employee newsletter to employees to update them throughout periodically through the project so they weren't out there hanging and again the project took a little longer but we feel good about that from the standpoint of we allowed our management team to take a deeper dive and make sure that there was quality information and input in this survey. I'd rather take more time and do it right. That's exactly right. Then rush it through and that's exactly what you did. And that's what we did and then it really brought us to earlier this year Adam where everything came together, the job descriptions, the classifications, the pay grades, the compensation tables themselves. From there again we introduced them that to the Human Resources Committee, the Finance Committees, we had the consultant come in once again and meet with all employees and I think we had five or six sessions for all employees to come and say, you know what, here's what we told you we did, here's actually the end result. Here are the recommendations and I think most importantly the study itself provided recommendations. We as a county were able then to say do these recommendations make sense? Are they the right fit for Sheboydon County? So from there we had very good turnout at those meetings and very good conversations at those meetings. The employees felt engaged and that went well. From there we did present to the county board. So the study required full county board approval and the study was approved in June of this year. So we're now at the process that comes as full circle a year later of the studies effective eight will be January 16th of 16. So we're now in the process of the study is over, we're implementing, it will be a big project for the HR and payroll team to put together. And then we will also introduce an interesting aspect which is very different than the private sector typically what they would do but we're offering an appeals process to our employee group which allows them to sit with their management team, take a look at what was that end result, where does my job fall and did we capture and how do I think that that fits what I'm doing and really that helps us in the buy-in process. And if the consultant missed something if a position description wasn't updated appropriately if the department had missed something because they're the ones who submitted those it gives us a chance to get it right before implementation January 1st. Provides that opportunity. So that'll be over the next three months and then we'll have full implementation and move right into like we said the paper performance as of January. Well my compliments to you and your team huge accomplishment for the county. Very important to us again to be able to recruit and retain good staff and big picture though there were significant changes with rolling in the longevity, the pay for performance. When you boil it all down it really didn't have a great impact for employees today because no one lost income as a result of this no one's salaries were reduced as a result of this most of our positions were identified to be within the appropriate range or market though there were 32 employees I think that actually we'll see some nice increases because they needed to be moved up to the minimum of the range and in particular I feel good for those employees because now they're getting paid what they should be and I feel good for employees going forward because if they're exceeding expectations there's a little bit of a reward that can be provided that we haven't been able to do in the past. So nice work. That's right, thank you. Roger. Thank you Adam. And Jean let's talk about employee benefits and safety and wellness. And in particular safety we're always trying to improve the safety for all the different departments throughout the county but what in particular are you concentrating on? What's the hot topic this year? Okay, very good. I think we continue to put safety front of mind for our employees and we say that with so many I think our management team and our employees are tasked with so much every day but truly safety for our employees as well as any guests that enter our buildings is really very key. So that's a main focus. Really what we've done this last year Roger is we have for the last two years offered an annual safety training opportunity for all employees to attend. So this last year we focused on some fire safety. We focused on AED training. We focused on EAP which is our employee assistance program and a lot of people wouldn't really have that connectivity automatically in their minds about how does EAP connect to safety? But safety and wellness ties together about how we have that work and home life balance. So we trained a little bit on EAP and surprisingly and just really intriguing for me is a number of employees weren't really aware of what an impact EAP can be for our employee group and quite honestly we have seen the usage increase since that training. So tie that into that safety training and opportunity where all employees were in one room so let's get that in there. Let me just stop you for a second because I recently was just talking to a really valuable employee that works in one of our departments who reached out to me and maybe it was in part your department cluing them in but the employee if you're wondering what is this EAP? This employee was going through a divorce. It was very recent information. He was in shock and awe because he didn't see it coming. Had some other things going on in his personal life and I don't care who you are that can impact your focus at work. If things aren't good at home they're generally not real good at work and this employee called me just simply to say thank you and how much it meant to this individual that they had the opportunity to get that assistance. It made a world of difference to them and they also were very appreciative of the HR department and their managers for being empathetic and supportive during the few weeks or so that I think they were engaged. I don't know exactly but it touched me as well Jean because I thought wow here's a really, I mean this is an employee I knew had a lot of respect for and it helped them be successful and work through some of the issues they needed to. So glad to hear that that's something you're making sure all of our employees are aware of. Absolutely, so really to finish Roger you know the other major piece we added this year in safety training was self defense. We had a lot of employees say this is important to us. We're walking out perhaps in a dark parking lot or maybe not real well lit whether that's while they're at work or while they're at home. We had that, again that work and home life balance. So let's provide them that training. Our Sheriff's Department was intrigued and became very engaged during this training so they actually conducted that section of the training and excellent feedback. So personal safety was a little more of a focus last year. 2015 our focus is we realize it's hard to continue to get everybody out of the workplace for training. So this year what we're gonna do is actually go to the workplace for training. Steve Steinert our emergency management director and our building services manager, Nate True will actually join myself. We are going out to each department, each facility and the focus of this training in late fall, early winter will be crisis management, emergency preparedness for each location. Each location has a little something to do. For example, if an active shooter were to come in or if there is a fire what departmentally and facility wise are we fully prepared? We say that we are. So we'll actually do some walkthrough exercises and again engage the employees. What would you do? Are you prepared? So safety remains key to continuous training. And each year we evaluate the employees benefits and it's a big part of our budget. What's the focus this year? Right. This year as we all know benefits continue to change and with all of the ACA the Florida Bill Care Act requirements that are involved we actually formed a formal strategic benefits committee and that was formed in late 2014 started to meet in 2015. That was met led actually by J. Scott our benefit consultant through AFG and we had a diverse group of employees from across the organization and a couple of county board supervisors that joined us. We met actually several times a month the first quarter of 2015. The goals were to make sure that the group was educated on our current benefits and then to discuss current trends whether those were internal trends meaning what's our employees health? How does that picture look? And no personal information shared. Just overall what should we be focusing on? What's good? What's maybe not so good? And then external trends as well. What are other organizations doing and what should Wayne County be doing? And primary focus certainly is dollars. How can we continue to provide very good benefits at a reasonable cost to both the employee and the taxpayer? So those meetings initially were quite intriguing. They continued then on to what we did this year as an employee benefit survey. So again, I really applied to Wayne County for engaging our employees several times in the last couple of years here since my arrival that we wanna hear from them. So we did a survey we had over 50% participation in that survey which is excellent results to say what do you feel about our current benefits? Health, dental, vision, life, so forth. The majority of our employees over 80% almost 90% in each of those categories employees are very pleased with the benefit package that the counties offers. But when I wanted to go out and say what else? What aren't we doing? So again, engaging. So we took that feedback that brings us to current a few weeks ago. The committee then recommended some potential changes for 2016 and then really strategically for 2017 and 2018. So the committee presented that to the Human Resources Committee and we've got some approvals of some minor changes for 2016 and we'll continue then to focus on more of a biometric health plan for 2017 and 18. So we'll continue to stay with our current provider for 2015 with some minor tweaks. And as I talked to different county board members from other counties, I believe we are very active about getting input from our employees. Some since Act 10 have sort of dictated what is done, but I think the employees appreciate the input and they look around to other counties and appreciate that in particular. And another point of interest to the employees is the wellness. And I know that they're included in the wellness package and the development of our in health clinic. Do you wanna talk a little bit about that? Absolutely. I think, Roger, it all starts, I think from my perspective with that in health clinic, we are partnered with the Shaboyganary School District and the city of Shaboygan with our employees in that clinic effort. So I think that the main thrust of wellness is to continue to keep our health front of mind and the employees really drive that to make sure they're educated and again that they understand and they really drive their own wellness. So the in health clinic helps with that. A number of other things that we do, we certainly do our annual human resources, our annual health risk assessments through human resources and the in-care health clinic, which is kind of that reading once a year for us to go in at no cost to the employee. If they do that, their percentage to their health insurance is decreased. Again, it's us and employers saying it's important for us for you to stay as healthy as you can and be educated. So we'll do that. We currently have a wellness committee that meets quarterly and they discuss. And again, we're engaging employees. What are other organizations using? What else should we be doing for wellness initiatives? I think most recently what really is exciting for me is again, listening to our employees out of the employee benefits survey, we heard a lot about fitness centers and we heard a lot about how do we get healthy? Can we bring fitness centers into our county buildings? Can we perhaps like other organizations go out and sponsor some help and support with us joining fitness centers? So we did a survey once again, those counties around us, private and public sector employees, and I'm pleased to reiterate or announce that we rolled out a fitness center reimbursement program to our employees as of June 1st. So for those who are eligible for a benefit plan, let me qualify that. But it has been received very, very well. And the idea again is to get people more active. We're self-insured in terms of our employee benefits program and we're very concerned certainly about their health and wellness, but we're also concerned about keeping costs low. If we can have a healthier employee base, that should drive that cost down for us. Yeah, if I can, Roger, let's take a minute on that because Jean just did a great job summarizing the benefits to the employees and the good things we've done, but that wellness in health clinic not only is it good for the employee, it's good for the taxpayer. Just as these other programs are, because as you said at the end, if we can improve health, it reduces our costs significantly for the cost of health insurance and taking care of folks. Have you got a sense of what kind of savings or what kind of increases we've had in comparison to counties that haven't had in health clinic? We've not done a study quite like that. I can tell you that the trend continues to be that in health clinics are trending and increasing. Now what we can tell you is the more that we educate and have employees be consumers about their own health, that is definitely helping. So there's some of those soft costs that we can't necessarily put a figure to, but the more we can educate and bring these wellness programs into play and events such as the Cancer Walk, the Alzheimer's Walk, and Sheboyin County Healthy Fitness Day, we're getting people more savvy in terms of their own health. And I hit our cold with that question, but the reason it comes to mind is I just returned from a conference where one of the presentations, and it was a national conference, one of the presentations was Waukesha Counties in Health Clinic and the savings that it's providing not only for employees, but for taxpayers. Waukesha County put an end to health clinic in a year and a half ago following the lead of Sheboyin County. They followed our model and I think ours has been now in place, I lose track of time, maybe six or seven years. 2008, since 2008, yeah. So the speaker gave kudos to Sheboyin County for the model that they followed and did their, they only have a year and a half of data, but they're already showing the savings that it's providing for the employees and the taxpayer. So it's a win-win, which is great. Right, right. Well, thank you very much for all the work that you and your staff do to help our employees be better employees and in turn save taxpayer money. I'll turn it back to Adam. Thank you, Roger. We only have a minute left, so I thought I'd leave you with the question to focus on your staff a little bit. In my tenure, and I've been here 16 years now, I don't recall us having a stronger skill set, a stronger team in our HR department. Why don't you very quickly just recognize your staff because I know you have a number of new faces. We do, and thank you for that. We talked a little bit about myself, certainly just joining and adding value from the leadership standpoint. I also have Penny Alsner, who has been with the organization. I'll leave it at 30 plus years. So very valuable player. She's our analyst and really handles a lot of the work comp and reporting and compensation and so forth. We've got Julie Kinney who joined us about two years ago and Julie comes to us as a senior HR generalist with 20 plus years of experience, very well-rounded individual, glad to have her. We have Michelle Rainitz who joined us just a few months ago. Michelle has about 15 years of HR experience and she is a generalist with us as well. We have Courtney Ames who's been with us as an HR coordinator, a front desk, that big smile you see as you enter HR. And she's been with us just, I think seven or eight years, so it's very valuable. And just decided to go part time for us so we were able to add Alyssa Worth. Alyssa has just been with us for about a month and brings a couple of years experience with an HR degree. So very pleased to have the team that we have in place to help our employees here at Sheboyton County. Outstanding, outstanding. What a great note to add on. And if you have any questions about HR program services, anything you heard today, don't hesitate to contact Jean Gallimore, our member of her excellent team. And thank you so much for joining us this month.  So until then, thank you for joining us and have a great summer.


Hey, everyone. Welcome to today's day trading recap for Wednesday, May 12th. Hope everybody's having a good day in this market sell off. I had my best day trading day of the year, uh, and going back really as far as I can remember, I really can't remember having a one day profit is as good as today, but plus 4,057 on the day. Let's go through these and I'll show you what we did starting with, uh, only one mighty 90. That was in Tesla book 250 on that one. No pairs trades today. And then on the runners, 519 and Apple, Microsoft 857, Peton 142, Roku plus 950 and my biggest winner, Tesla plus 1339. So over 3,800 on the, uh, on the runners, uh, you know, obviously a huge sell off today. So most of these were short. However, Peton and Roku, those were both on the long side that I booked profit. So, uh, good stuff there. Let's take a look at these trades. I'll show you what we did. Let's start with the mighty nineties, uh, or the one mighty 90, which was in Tesla and let's open up Tesla here. I'll show you what we did. So on the mighty 90, uh, had this nice pushup right into a key level, both this, I was actually, I was waiting for it to get up to this pivot. I was going to, I was going to add more size, but I got in small here to just a couple of contracts, a nice volume here. So I got short, uh, did end up, it rolled over. I got out of half just on that little move down for plus 10% profit bounced right back up to my, my pivot. I didn't, I didn't add after that little pause. I thought it may go higher. So I just held and then once we got a little bit of a flush took, took that off. So plus 250, uh, while we're here, I'll talk about my, my runner in Tesla. So, uh, moved all the way back down near lows of day and started chopping around below this pivot. So, uh, I got short right here for downside runner caught, uh, caught this nice move here. I got out of three fourths of my position right here at this line, which was a good one because it bounced, uh, bounced back up and I reloaded right here short, uh, took some heat on that piece and then finally rolled over, got out of, uh, got out of a bunch again and then held my last piece. And I think I got out of my last piece when it after started to bounce here. Uh, so booked plus, uh, 250 on the mighty 90 and then 13 39, uh, on, on the runner. So really nice day in our friend Tesla, Apple, uh, Apple was another runner and an Apple, uh, let's see what we do. Oh yeah. So it was chopping around, chopping around, came down and when it bounced up to, uh, this unchained, uh, to yesterday's open caught this little move here, uh, bounced back up and did I add to it? I don't, I don't even think I added to it, uh, came back down. Anyway, got out of my last piece, uh, right down here in Apple, uh, for nice $519 profit and then Microsoft, another nice winner for 8 57, uh, Microsoft was acting week all day or actually, so it had that initial strength came down below the lows. And so when it bounced up, just this little bounce here up near yesterday's low, that's where I got short market. It looked like it was getting really weak, uh, got short there and cut this and then it bounced on me. And I think I got out of my last piece somewhere down here. So nice trade for 8 57 in Microsoft. Peton, this was a long trade, uh, and this was earlier in the day. So both Peton and Broku around the same time had this nice big, uh, volume spike in, in Peton. So when it pulled back to the unchanged mark here, got long and this thing actually, you know what? I think I actually, I may have been going off of this one. I'm on this draw down here on this pullback here. I think I got long there initially ripped up, got another big volume bar. So when it pulled back, got long again, ripped up, took some off. When it came back down here again, I got long again. So stayed my welcome a little too long and started to flush. So when it, when it did that, I cut out of my last piece. So only booked 142 on Peton. I was up quite a bit more, but did not give us that extra bounce that would have really, uh, been a nice winner. And then Roku, Roku did, Roku is another long that we took, kind of around the same time, got this big volume bar, little pullback here, got long, fired up, got out of some here, came back down, got in, went up, got out of some. And I think I may have done it one more time, but now that was it. And so ended up booking 950 total in Roku. I think when it started to break back down on one of these bars, I ended up cutting out because the market was just getting weak. I didn't think Roku would hold up. It actually did. It just came right down to unchanged rip all the way back up to the highs, but I did not participate in that piece. And then it did end up getting washed down with the rest of the market, uh, where it's, where it's right around unchanged now, but Roku holding up very well in the wake of the sell-off. And so that's all of our trades. So plus 4057 on the day, new personal record. That always feels good. Look forward to live streaming the next couple of days. We'll be live streaming Thursday, Friday and every day next week. So look forward to seeing you in the live room. Talk to you then.


I'm Stephen Wren Tutt. I'm the president of Coherent Digital. We have a pretty new outfit. My mission is to tame wild content. By wild content, we have all that stuff that's on the internet that's got scholarly or learning value. It's just a really wide range of content that isn't books and journals. Social learning and research I think is really, really important. The internet demands it. The internet has a lot of promise, but only if we can actually leverage tools like social interactions. So when I look, you know, let's say policy comments, this is a database of more than 20,000, sorry, two and a half million items. And how are we actually going to make these useful? How are we going to add things like annotations? There's no way we can do that one by one. We have to do it collaboratively. And in making things collaborative, we're actually going to be able to do it far cheaper, far faster, far more efficiently. So I'm excited about coalitions like this that are really going to make that possible. So when we take a look at what content's actually out there, we've identified over 20,000 organizations that put out really quality reports. So how actually we're going to make those reports useful? Very often think tanks are putting out reports in HTML with minimal metadata, publication dates, author attribution, indexing, cataloging, it's all absent. So when I look at what tools are available out there to help that, if I take annotations, for example, we're talking really important topics around which a lot of discourse deserves to happen. And whether that's around research or learning, the question is how can we collectively do this? For a company like Coherent to invest in each of these features independently, there's no way as a startup we can afford it. But if say hypothesis has developed an annotation tool that really delivers, why not free these annotations, which historically have been trapped by being attached to a single article on a single website behind a paywall on something that cannot be easily found? Why don't we open it up and make that material generally available to all? And we don't necessarily need to get rid of the material being behind a paywall if the publishing reasons that's really important, but we can use the same tools. Well, if I take annotations, for example, it would be great to have these seminal policy documents annotatable in a coherent way. Excuse the pun. Yeah, it would be really, really great if instead of us developing an idiosyncratic version of annotations, I've talked a lot about annotations, but it applies across the board. Let's take geotagging, for example. Geotagging, there are many tools already extant out there, but most of them are idiosyncratic and only work with dedicated data sets. What if there was a geotagging tool that was actually applicable across broad ranges of content? Perhaps it exists and we just don't know about it. So by coming together, I think we're in a position where we can really, really benefit mutually. And, you know, from a competitive standpoint, it doesn't obviate the need for competition. There's plenty of places we can compete, but why not collaborate on some too and get the benefit? I think I've mentioned this before. There's a vanity sometimes that comes from being in a startup that you can do it all yourself. And then as you get into the thick of it, you suddenly realize that there's just so much work to do. When I look at the challenges of wild content, making things like Twitter or YouTube usable or more usable in an academic setting or a learning setting or a research setting, there are just so many different challenges we have to face. Trying to do it one by one, the chances you're going to succeed are pretty low. We don't know what the work that's actually being done, let alone it being done in a coherent way. So for all of these reasons, if you're interested in leveraging social spaces, if you're interested in actually following what I think the web demands, the web is an inherently social media. It didn't just take Facebook and TikTok etc to show this. It is the very nature of the medium that it connects people from one to another. And if you turn your back on that, you're not only increasing your cost base, making it harder to market etc, but you're at very high risk that you'll be penalized.


Washington calling Counter-Spy. Washington calling Counter-Spy. Counter-Spy calling Washington. Harding, Counter-Spy calling Washington. The Blue Network presents Phillips H. Lorde's Counter-Spy. Italy at Novra, and Japan at Black Dragons. But matched against all of these secret enemy agents, our Uncle Sam's highly trained Counter-Spy's Visualized 8th Counter-Spy of them all as David Harding. In Washington, Brigadier General Whitcombe sat in his private office at a large oak desk, standing in front of him was First Lieutenant John O'Brien. Lieutenant O'Brien? Yes, sir? I have another mission for you. A most important mission? Yes, general. Let's see, you've been my official messenger for seven years, correct? Nine years, sir. Nine years? Well, Lieutenant, you've been most methodical, resourceful and diligent. Thank you, sir. Now, this envelope contains certain very important documents. They concern changing some of our heavy artillery on the West Coast. Carry it inside your uniform. Now, I want you to deliver these to the commander of the San Francisco fortifications. Deliver them right into his own hands, and to no other living person. Yes, sir. Shall I fly, sir? No, I don't want to call attention to your mission in any way. Just quietly get on the train. Though you were carrying nothing of any importance. There's a transcontinental train tonight at 10 o'clock, Lieutenant. Yes, sir, there is. All I've got to do is go back to my hotel room and cancel several engagements I had to. Hello? Hello? This is Lieutenant O'Brien calling. No. No, I can't take you to the theater tonight. No, I'm not going. Oh, a new dress. Honestly, I'm awfully sorry, but I've just received instructions to leave for San Francisco. Yes, San Francisco. Well, I'll be back in about a week, and then I'll see you every night. Take us, please. Oh, air conductor. Oh, going to San Francisco, Lieutenant.  Got several vacancies. No, thank you, O'Brien. Oh, San Francisco is a long way to ride in the day, Coach. No, I'm used to it. Is the storm delaying as much? Well, let's see. Just in the midnight. Well, we're about half an hour late. Thank you. Well, Lieutenant, I hope you don't get... What's the matter with the light? Look, where did it go out? It may have something to do with the storm, madam. I'm afraid. It is so dark.  Conductor, something is terrible has happened. What happened, madam? We heard a fight, a glass abrasion. Where? About three or four feet from me. A junior cyclist up there. We can't get the lights on. Somebody's got the wires. Get out of there, see? Boy, the glass is broken out. And blood. Oh, that's what the army officer was thinking. He must have been thrown out the window. Hold on, everybody. I'm going to pull the emergency. Mrs. Harding, go ahead. We're located, placed by tracks, where Lieutenant O'Brien's body landed. There was a great deal of blood. We traced footprints from there a hundred yards through the main road. Somebody had a car parked there. There were some tread marks of car and dirt beside roads. Are you making plaster casts of footprints from the car tread? Yes, sir. They'll be ready by morning, sir. Good. Stand by for further instruction. Throwing O'Brien off that train was certainly a carefully planned job, Mr. Harding. Yes, David. It was no ordinary job. The only ones who knew about those plans being sent were the higher-ups. I let every move Lieutenant O'Brien made check carefully. This job has all the earmarks of a high-class sophisticated plot.  Couldn't we get one of our own operators into that circle, if we could? But I want somebody already there, some prominent person who wouldn't be suspected of working with us. I'm going to talk to Lady Ashton. She's helped you before. She's a social leader. And she can be trusted. Lady Ashton, I need a woman who's fairly young, beautiful, sophisticated, worldly, who travels in Washington's higher social set. I see. Have you anyone safely in mind, Mr. Harding? Yes. Norma Braley. She's a French refugee. She's invited everywhere. She's continental. I'm very beautiful. You're sure this is all business, Mr. Harding? She is attractive. But if Mrs. Braley would be willing to work with me and follow my instructions, he could be of great help. You wish me to give her dinner, so that you may meet her. I've been working in here, Lady Ashton. I'm often watched very carefully. I'd like to have a meeting up here to be a chance one. How about dinner, Friday? I'll see that you meet Mrs. Braley socially then. That'll be fine, Lady Ashton. I'll be there. Yes, but you must have some opinions on how the war is going, Mr. Harding. I know how it's going to go, Mrs. Braley. Do you want to walk over to the other side of the room for a minute? Yes, please, ma'am. You know, I think Lady Ashton gives the most entertaining evenings of any host she can work in here. She's a very charming person. Miss Braley. I don't want to be seen talking to you too long, so I'll come right to the point. You sound very serious, Mr. Harding. It's a French refugee, Miss Braley. You fled Paris just before it fell. Your entire family is still there. Well, how did you know that? More people are investigated nowadays than they think. Miss Braley. Yes? Would you take some risks if you thought you really could be of help against our mutual enemies? Oh, I'd do anything in the world. Everything's a risk nowadays. I need someone who travels and watching his best for Friday. I need someone who's never been connected with counterspying in any way. Someone of courage, insight, sophistication. You mean me? Yes. On a very hard and difficult case right now. I need someone just like you. In fact, you. But I don't think I'm qualified for such an important undertaking, Mr. Harding. I've never had any training. You won't need any, Miss Braley. You'll do exactly as I tell you. Do you really think I can help? Very definitely. Then I'll be only thing you ask. It's the least I can do. It will be in danger. The ring I referred to was just murdered one army officer. I'm not easily frightened, Mr. Harding. It was a good deal before I escaped to the United States. Then it's agreed. Now, I believe something very important is going to break later tonight. Now, any calls I make to you must be made in such a way that they can't be traced. Out of my morning at 10.30, go to the Farmsworth Drug Store on Maple Street. There are three telephone booths there. Go into the middle booth. Make several telephone calls so you can hold the booth, so no one else will be using the phone. Now, hang up the receiver at exactly 11.30. Now, I have that phone number. I'll do the same thing on the other end of town, so that my call to you will be from one telephone booth to another, so the call can't be traced. I'll be there, Mr. Harding. I'd like to be second. And be sure and don't call me by name over the phone. Hello? I'm in a telephone booth by appointment for a call at exactly 11.30. Good. Now listen carefully. Mr. Harold Palmer arrived late last night in Washington from Ontario, Canada. We've been walking him up there for over three months. He's not really of the nobility. We believe his credentials are false, but we've not been able to make sure. Well, this is the first time that Mr. Harold has left Canada. And it's so close to that event which happened on a train four nights ago, we believe there may be some connection. I've arranged the lady action to give a ball in the coming one's evening. Somehow it will be arranged so Mr. Harold will be there. I want you to meet Mr. Harold Palmer at that ball. Lady action will introduce you to him. Butter him. Get to know him. I'll do my best.  Yes. Keep it with you at all times. That's all for now. Mr. Harold, we're so delighted to see you this evening. It's very kind of you to invite me lady action tonight. I've just come down from Canada. I'm really quite a stranger more than that. Mr. Harold, I want you to meet a guest of mine. Miss Bailey. Oh, how do you do, Miss Bailey? What do you mean, Mr. Harold? I've been admiring Miss Bailey all evening, hoping I might have the opportunity of meeting her. There are many gave up saying things like that to me years ago. I don't know if they didn't lady action. Will you dance with some of me, Miss Bailey? I'd love to, Mr. Harold. I've been admiring you, Mr. Anthony. The gentleman in question and lady spent the evening at the theater, later attended Cretan Club, and he has just now taken her home. Blaze Operator 7 is made on his floor at Hotel. That is all. D-8 reporting. The gentleman in question and lady went for a drive out of Washington. Stop at Blaze Flower Club on Highway 3 for dinner and dancing. Have just returned to Washington. If gentleman orders theater tickets for play opening Friday, he gets two ANC's in 4th Row, Center Isle. That is all. D-8 reporting. Operator 6 followed couple in question this morning. She went shopping and he accompanied her. Overheard conversations indicating they are planning to meet this evening in his hotel room. It is rather unusual in this country for a young woman to go up to the hotel room with a man and they're still engaged or something. Is that so? Very interesting. Continuing, we had in our home for many years what I could call a final collection of pastoral artists as it was outside of a museum. He very seldom went out of an evening and painted such a beautiful landscaping of old kinds. Yes, I see. Am I boring? What was his young dissertation on atmosphere? It was just a question. But you're your own. Oh no, almost certainly not. Continue. Tell me more about these oil paintings in Northchester. I'm sorry, Mr. Harding, but I didn't know what to do. I know, but it's two o'clock in the morning, Alma. Come up to my hotel room. It's for those who might be watching me. Why is it the fact that you're working with me? There's something terribly important that's happening, Mr. Harding. What? Well, the Herald kept talking and talking about art so late that I asked him to order some food. And when he went into the adjoining room to telephone room service, I had a chance to look in several drawers and I found these papers. Let me see them.  Here. Do you look at these? Yes, they're reports. And they state very clearly they concern confidential information between the United States and Canada. Yes. And this one. It even goes so far as to mention certain fortifications. Is the information you want? Not the exact information. But it very definitely shows that Harold is working against the interests of the United States and Canada. But you should not have come here, Norma. In fact, you shouldn't have taken these papers. Yes, but why? Now you've got proof against the Herald. Yes, but he'll miss these papers and he'll know you've tricked him and disappear. Then I haven't helped. Oh yes, yes, you've helped.  You're in more trouble. Unless I miss my guest, this is a report that Sir Harold has already left. Hello? G-8 reporting. Sir Harold is checked out of hotel. He's ordered car from nearest garage. Shall I replace you first? No. Too dangerous at this point. Drop a trail. Tell operator 37 to pick it up. Yes, sir. I never felt so badly in my life, Mr. Harding. I feel that I've bungled the whole thing. Don't feel that way, Nona. You got the company so much more than I expected, I wasn't ready for it. You're not just saying that. No. I mean it. I'd rather hear you say something like that than anyone else. Now, of course, the artillery plan which was stolen from Lieutenant O'Brien have already been changed. A new set of plans is being sent to California Saturday night by plane. We'll wait and see if the Gestapo makes an attempt to get those new plans Saturday night. I see. But what can I do, Mr. Harding? A tomorrow night. Dress very simply. Take the bus, the Maryland bus, to the end of the line, get off there and wait for me. Things have taken a pretty serious turn. Tomorrow night should tell us a lot. Mr. Harding, can you tell me now where we're going? To a little farmhouse about 10 miles further down the road. Well, why are we going there? We have a shortwave listening set there. There's nothing near the farmhouse. The reception is excellent. And you still think I can be of help? Very definitely. But I can't tell how until we hear this shortwave broadcast tonight. Every Tuesday and Saturday night from 1.15 to 1.30 in the morning there's a shortwave broadcast by a bootleg station to Germany. We've been listening in on it for several weeks. But who's doing the broadcasting? Get Sapo agents. Back we'll both listen in tonight. So much electrical equipment, Mr. Harding.  Take these earphones. I'm calling another shortwave station of our own, one of my men's operating. 42B. 42B. Come in on 24.5 megacycles. Come in. Your signal is weak, but I can get it. Come in. Proceed according to schedule. That will be 3 minutes and 20 seconds. Then meet me at apartment. You get it? Exactly 3 minutes, 10 seconds, and we'll contact. That is all. Was that a shortwave station in another farmhouse? No. It was a portable sending and receiving set in a car. That's why I didn't have too much power. Now, you don't understand German, do you, Norma? No, I don't. Then I'll interpret for you. Broadcast, we should be picking up right now. Now, take these earphones. He's making contact. You'll hear him in a minute. And this radio station here and here is operating illegally and do less contact with civilians? Yes. But we've got it spotted. On the 24,500, to Berlin, attention. Secret report of great importance. He's just saying he's got some real news tonight. On the 24,500, to Berlin, the plans for the North American West Coastal Defense have been approved. He's talking about the West Coast fortifications that were stolen from it. The documents are in our possession. He's telling Berlin that the Gestapo will have the papers but the question is how to get them out of the country. Now, he's saying revised plans are to be sent to the West Coast this Saturday night. We've got the same planer of the mother to slap him. Get your hands up, quick! Who are you? Get out of here! You make a move, I'll shoot. The United States counterspies.  Move away from that broadcasting microphone. They've been captured. Who says it's Jocelyn? I'm what you're sending, sir. Oh, yeah. Put the cups on him, Frank. We've already got the cups in your three pals. The two downstairs, the one in the other room. Take them out, boys. Remember these four, the ones who murdered Lieutenant O'Brien. The short-wave set won't be used any more tonight or any other night. Well, Norma, you really heard something that time. They were really captured by your men. They certainly were. Right now, they're being taken away so fast they don't know what's happening. Yes, but how did it happen just right then? That was the message I sent out the first thing I came into this room. We had everything set. Come on. I want to drive back and face them. Where are we going now, Dave? We've got a place where we hide people like them away for a while. A prison? Well, go over to a private prison. There are steel bars and escape-proof devices. That's what you mean. After that, it's the firing squad. All these people in these cells, Norma, are agents of the Gestapo or the Japanese Black Dragon. Let's go into this cell now. Wait. Oh, it's horrible. These prisoners just look at us. You can see in their eyes. They know they're going to be shot. Oh, God. Is it? Check and see if a Sir Hal Palmer has been brought in yet. If he has, bring him to this cell. I could. Yeah. Sit down in this car, Norma. We may have quite a little weight. Dave, how did you catch Sir Hal? We'll let him do the dogging when he gets here. Norma, let me tell you something. Because something very startling is about to happen. Lieutenant John O'Brien was a confidential messenger for the army. On his last mission, he was murdered in a train while the lights were out, the window was broken, and his body thrown out. You have been just a minute, Mr. Harding. Oh, good. Norma, we can't go by in the movement. Everything he did after he received those confidential instructions, O'Brien went back to his hotel room, and the only thing he did besides packing was to put in five telephone calls. Three were called for the army department, one was a call to his mother, and one was a call to a girl. We traced that call. It showed no hotel records. We immediately started investigating that girl, and it gradually showed up that her background wasn't quite what she claimed it to be. In other words, he found out that Lieutenant O'Brien was a trusted government messenger. He'd become acquainted with him, and started seeing his reveal of him. And when he telephoned her on this certain night and said he was going to San Francisco, she knew it must be an important business. And as he was a confidential government messenger, she knew he probably had the papers with him. So she passed the word on, gave orders, for the two men to board the train, and after a little while cut the electric light wires in that car, murder O'Brien, throw his body off at a certain prearranged time. Two other men in an automobile were waiting and carried his body away, because they were afraid he might have important papers on his person. Well, were those men who were running the short-wave station the ones who murdered his candidate O'Brien? Yes, but they received instructions from the woman to do it. The woman was the real murderer. Did you send for me to...? Yes. I believe you know, Miss Braille. Oh, yes, I've had that privilege.  That's right.  But I can't aspire to me. George Davis. You can't aspire? Well, he's the Canadian you sent me to work. He's the one I sold the papers from. And a very good job of stealing them you did, too. Miss Braille, you were under arrest by the United States government.   Take it away from her, Davis. Get out of here. Get out of here. While you were stealing the papers, Davis here was putting blank cartridges in the gun you had in your handbag. Killing comes pretty easy to you, doesn't it?  I wasn't absolutely positive, but you were the woman, Miss Braille, till we heard that broadcast tonight and your spies passed on word about the revised fortification papers being sent to the coast Saturday night. Then I knew that you were the one we wanted because that was just a made-up story. And you and I were the only two in the whole world. Oh, Lord. What are you going to do with me? You're very unobserving. You should have noticed that this is a woman's section. And half an hour before we arrived, this very cell was reserved for you.  Come on, Davis. You can't do this to me. You can't do it. Have a French refugee.  Have a French refugee. You're a French refugee right from Berlin. You never saw France in your life. We checked your family. They live on connection south of Hamburg.  You sminer. American is a sminer. She's about the most vicious spy we've taken in since the war started. I have a feeling she's responsible for a lot of important information leaking out, Davis. One thing's certain, she won't get out. That's great invisible army of undercover agents, which is working 24 hours a day, seven days a week to protect this country from enemies within. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great.


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I'm going down to Peavey's and get some film right now. Would you like to have your little picture taken? Ooh, she called me daddy. I'm asking Gilder Sleeve. And what is your pleasure? I want to roll a film for my brownie. All right. You're going to take the baby's picture. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. I want to get a picture before she gets too big. I've never seen a baby grow so fast. Why, she gained half an ounce yesterday. You don't say. Here's your film. Just charge it, please. I want to hurry up and get these pictures taken. Mr. Gilder Sleeve, would you like me to load the camera for you? Load it? Oh, I guess I can do it. There's no extra charge, part of our friendly service. Oh, all right. You can probably do it faster than I can. It's a very simple operation. You merely open the back lid. Then pull out the inside. Seems to be stuck. Oh, I forgot to pull out this little do-jigger on the side. Pee-bee, will you hurry it up a little, please? It's a very simple operation. You pull it out like this. And now we're ready to put it in the film. Good. First, we take the film out of the package. That's a good idea. Now according to instructions, we insert this little tab in Spooley. Now, which one is Spooley? Pee-bee, hurry up. We'll even know the sun goes down at five o'clock. Let's see here now. This one could be Spooley. Oh, goodness. Good morning, Mr. Pee-bee. Oh, good morning, Mr. Pinkney. What can I do for you? I just want a tube of toothpaste. Very well. Pee-bee, I was here first, and I'm in a hurry. So just take a moment, Mr. Gilder Sleeve. Now, what size tube did you want, Mr. Pinkney? What sizes do you have? Well, there's the small, medium, and large economy size. Small, medium, and large economy size? That's right. Small, medium, and large economy size. Small, medium. Why doesn't he hurry up? Mr. Pee-bee, what's the difference between them? Well, one's small, one's medium, and one is very large. Excuse me, Madam. Pee-bee, if you'll just give me back my film, I'll load the camera myself. Just a moment, Mr. Gilder Sleeve. Now, what size did you want, Mr. Pinkney? Well, I don't know. What size toothpaste do you use, Mr. Pee-bee? I use toothpaste powder myself. Oh, God. Oh. Well, what sizes did the toothpaste powder come in? Well, it comes in three sizes, too. Small, medium, and large. Would you like some toothpaste powder? Well, I just can't make up my mind. I think I'll just let it go now and stop in on my way home. Good day, Mr. Pinkney. Good day, Mrs. Pinkney. Thank you, and call again. Pee-bee, give me that film. I'll load the camera myself. All right, Mr. Gilder Sleeve, if you want her. I never saw anyone as slow as you. Pee-bee, do you know what you are?  No, I wouldn't say that. Oh, God! Honey, what's the matter with him? Try to hold the baby still now, and look at the camera. You, too, baby. Hurry up, take it, Archie. Now, just a moment now. Let me look in here. Oh, Marjorie, move down one step.  All right. That's it. Now, hold it. Not now, Leroy. I want to get a few more of the baby first. Okay. Hold still, Marjorie. Hold still, baby. Look at the birdie. Now, let's get one of the baby on the lawn. Put her on the blanket, Marjorie. All right. Oh, aren't you going to take one me now? Not now, Leroy. And move back. You're throwing a shadow on the baby. Okay, for corn's sake. All right, baby. A big smile now. Look at birdie. Look at the birdie. All right, baby. Hold it now.  Aunk! Huh? You said you were going to take my picture. Oh, well, all right. That's all right, I guess. I'll just kind of lean against the railing like this. Do I look okay? Mm-hmm. Is my thigh straight? Yes. Okay. Oh, I can't, Leroy. Huh? Why not? I see I have just one film left.  A baby. The baby. Everything's a baby. Oh, you're just jealous. I am not. You are too. No, Leroy. We've got a whole album of you. But if you insist, I'll take your picture. You don't have to. I don't want my old picture taken anyhow. That's sissy stuff. You don't have to take my picture. Okay, I won't. Huh?  Move these. And we'd go fishing together. But he wouldn't take you fishing. He wouldn't catch anything anyhow. Do anything for me. Oh, Leroy. What is it? Well, Birdie and I were talking over and we decided the baby ought to sleep in your room. What? Well, it's the sunniest room in the house and the baby needs a lot of sun, you know. I'm not going to sleep in the same room with a baby. That's right, we're moving you into the sewing room. Sewing room? We'll fix it all up for you. You can move your penance and your little radio and your turtle. I'm not going to sleep in the sewing room. Now, Leroy. Why can't the baby sleep in there? I told you, she needs the sunshine. What about me? You've got enough preckles now. You'll be all right in the sewing room. I'm not you care. All you care about is a baby.  I don't have to sleep here at all if you don't want me to. What? What are you talking about? I'll move out in the backyard in my clubhouse. Now, Leroy. Yes, I will. Well, I don't think you'll be very comfortable out there in that old packing box. I don't care.  Well, in that case, we'll forward your mail. Drop in and see you sometime. Let the baby have my room.  Hey, kids. Come down, Miss Gil, please. Mmm, smells awfully good. Mr. Gil Sleeves, don't you think you ought to get Leroy in now? What? Is he still out in that clubhouse? Yes, sir.  Said he wasn't ever coming back. Well, I remember I ran away from home once when I was a kid. I wasn't ever coming back, either. But I was back at the table by supper time. Yes, but you got a big appetite than Leroy. Yeah. Good. All right, Bertie. I'll go out and get him. That's good. Grab your coat and get your... There's his little clubhouse. What's that sign on it? Beware, headquarters of the Black Hands. Black Hands. That's Leroy, all right. I wonder what he's doing in there. Leroy? Are you in there, my boy? Leroy. It's pouting. I suppose I'll have to go in there. How do you get in there? Like they've got it dug out. That's the only way to get in is that little tunnel. Could have made this hole a little bigger. No, if I can just get my stomach in. Glad I'm doing this before supper. Dark in here. What's that? Is that you, Leroy? Oh, a cat. Kitty, one of us will have to get out of here.  I made it. Oh, hello, Leroy. Leroy, aren't you going to say hello to your old uncle? Hello. Nice little place you got here. Oh, my head. Could be a little roomier. Leroy, it's supper time. I know. Birdie's got roast beef and she made an apple pie just for you. I'm not hungry. We're all waiting for you in there. Marjorie, Birdie, me and the baby, I mean me. Come in. Now, Leroy, we mustn't be stubborn. I won't come in. That's a fine way to act. After your old uncle went to all his trouble and crawled in here to get you. I won't come in. You gods, can't you say anything else? I won't come in. All right then, don't come in. I can be just as stubborn as you can, young man. You can just stay out here and you get good and tired of it. I'm going in. We'll get through here in the first place. Oh, my goodness, I'm stuck. Back again. Kitty, go away.  I'll just leave again in just a minute. Now, I'd like some help from Birdie. Birdie? Yes, Mr. Wall? Let's see if I can say everything about parquet in 30 words or so. Mm-hmm. Parquet is a grand food to eat. It costs about half as much as the most costly spreads. Yet, it gives you all of their nutrition. That's the way you say it. That ain't the way I say it. Anyway, Birdie, that's the way... I say it just plain tastes good. Tastes like it should cost twice as much. Well, you'd be right about that. Parquet is prepared like a rare luxury food. Only selected products of American farms are used in making it. That's why parquet has such a sweet, light flavor. Whether you spread it on waffles or biscuits, pancakes or bread. That's the way you say it. Ain't the way I say it. But, Birdie... Tastes so good. That's what I'd say. Tastes like it should cost twice as much. Well, friends, there's one thing Birdie and I completely agree on. We'd like you to try parquet. P-A-R-K-A-Y Parquet margarine made by Crack. Ha ha ha ha! Because it tastes like it should cost twice as much. Fields in the McCoys have nothing on Leroy and the Great Gilder Sleeve. The family feud is still on. It's evening now and the Gilder Sleeve family, all except Leroy, that is, is just finishing a quiet dinner. Uncle Mort, will you pass the cream, please? Uncle Mort! Huh? Oh, oh, the cream? And here you are. Thank you. Uncle... Yes? Don't you think you and Leroy are acting pretty silly? Well, he's acting pretty silly. I'm not. Uncle Mort? Well, he is. He must be awfully hungry by now. Why don't you go out and talk to him? I did once, my dear. He's just being stubborn. That's all. Oh, but I know he'd come in now if you'd ask him. No, absolutely not. If he wants to sit out there and soak us... I'll get it, Birdie. That's the judge. He insisted on coming over to play checkers tonight, the old goat. Well, come on... Oh, Craig, what do you want? Where's Leroy? Leroy? Why, yeah, Minton, what do you want him for? My mother said I could play for an hour. Where's Leroy? Well, you can't see him right now, Craig, so run along. I will not. Come on now, get your foot out of the door. I will not. Go on home now, Craig. It's Betty by time. It is not. Why? Because he can't. That's why. You're mean to Leroy. What? Why? Now look here.  Oh, do not.  Get out of here and don't come back. Walk like a duck. That's ridiculous, I think. He's back again, is he? Walk like a duck, do I? What? Oh, hello, judge. Why, you don't walk like a duck, Gildy.  Thank you, I will. See, you're just finishing dinner, Gildy. Got your napkin tucked in your bag. Yes. Well, go right ahead and finish, and then we'll have an exciting checker tournament. Good evening, Marjorie. Good evening, judge. How is our sweet little baby girl tonight? Oh, she's fine. She's up in Leroy's room, judge. You moved Leroy out of his room? Well, it was sunnier for the baby. Oh, I see. Where is Leroy? Out in the packing box. Shhh. The packing box. What's he doing out there? Well, he had a quarrel. No, Marjorie, it isn't necessary to go into that. He won't come in to suffer. I want it. I'll go out and get it. I'll handle this, my dear.  I'll thank you to keep out of this, Hooker. You're supposed to have more sense than Leroy, although sometimes I doubt it. So if I were you...  Well, yeah. That's the way you feel. I won't stay here and play checkers with you. Good. I'm going home right now.   Old Hooker. Good night. Old Barinsky. Go finish my coffee. Probably cold by now. That Leroy'd come in now. If you could... Marjorie, that's the last I want to hear about this. The matter is closed. Terminated. Or as they say in French, finise. In other words, I forbid any further conversation on the subject. Okay. All right, dear. Man, can't even have... Excuse me. Yes, Bertie?  What?  Must be awful hungry by now. I think the subject is closed. And I want you to never mention Leroy's name again tonight. Is that clear? Yes, sir. Did you have plenty to eat, Mr. Guilty? Yes, I did, Bertie. Thank you. Plenty of roast beef, mashed potatoes, cornbread, and apple pie? Yes, Bertie. Thank you. I'm full of food. Well, I know somebody who ain't. Huh? But I won't mention his name. No, Bertie? Yes, sir. If somebody ain't had roast beef, mashed potatoes, cornbread, and apple pie, and he ain't had nothing to eat, but I won't mention his name. Bertie, I told you... I won't mention his name, but I'll give you a hint. He's a little fellow about 12 years old, sitting all alone in a packing box. But I won't mention his name. No, I said that... Now, I know you can guess who it is, but I'll tell you one thing. It ain't the walking man. Bertie? It ain't his name. Bertie? No, sir. It's somebody we all know. And he ought to be in here right now eating roast beef, mashed potatoes, cornbread, and apple pie, but I won't mention his name. Wonder if he's all right. A little chilly out. Maybe I ought to... No. I asked him to come in once.  Let him. Won't hurt him. And I was a kid. I slept outdoors on colder nights than this. I kept warm. Of course, I was a little fatter. Well, I'll go to bed, I guess. He's waiting up any longer. No, I'll just... Wonder who that is. Hello, Chuck Morgan. Eve, well, come in. Thank you. Well, Eve, I haven't seen you for a long time. You're looking wonderful. Thank you. How was your vacation? Oh, like all vacations. A little too short. Throckmorton, I hope you don't mind my dropping in so late. Mind? Not at all. Won't you sit down? Thank you.  Yes, I am. In fact, I'm just on my way home from a teacher's meeting now. Throckmorton, I understand you have a little addition to your family. Yeah, wonderful little baby girl. She's asleep right now. And there's no news of the mother yet? No, we haven't heard a word. Isn't that a shame? Well, it's very nice of you to look after this baby. Oh, I don't mind. In fact, it's a pleasure. Funny how quick you can get wrapped up in a baby like that. I spend all my spare time with her. Yeah. Throckmorton. Yes? There's something I wanted to talk to you about. What's that? Well, it's Leroy. Leroy? Yes.  Have you noticed it? Yes. Well, it's perfectly natural for him to act this way. Young people usually do when there's a new child brought into the home, like this baby you found. New child? Yeah. Children are apt to be a little jealous. Sometimes they think they're losing their parents' love. They do? Mm-hmm. That's why you have to be especially tactful at a time like this. Be careful not to neglect them or show any preference for the new child. Of course, I know you wouldn't do that. Oh, no. You wouldn't make Leroy feel he wasn't wanted. You're too intelligent. I am? I mean, oh, sure. Certainly. You know, some parents misinterpret the child's attitude. They think he's just sulking or being stubborn. Sometimes the child's whole life is affected. A boy who feels he's unwanted may easily become a juvenile delinquent. Huh? Yes. In some cases they even turn out to be criminals. Gangsters. Gangsters? But we don't have to worry about Leroy. Of course not. It's late. I better be going. It was nice seeing you again. Oh, thanks, Eve. Nice to see you. Dr. Martin. Yes? I'm sure Leroy will be all right. I know you'll remember the children as human beings, too. Good night, Dr. Martin. Good night, Eve.  Soon this whole life could have made him a gangster. Leroy. He's gone. Probably out robbing a bank. It's all my fault. Try it. Leroy, you all right? Sure. How was the sleep? Leroy, you're not going to be a criminal, are you? Huh? Nothing.  No. Bertie brought me some dinner. I had roast beef, mashed potatoes, cornbread and apple pie. That's good. Hope you weren't too cold out here. No, okay. Bertie brought me some blankets, too. Bertie's certainly been busy. Leroy. Yeah? I'm sorry, I lost my temper. You know, sometimes your old uncle is a little thoughtless, but he doesn't mean to be. That's all right, Uncle. I'll be okay in the sewing room. Thanks, Leroy. Well, how about coming in the house now? You go to bed. Aw, can't I stay out here tonight, Uncle? What? Sure, this is lots of fun. Now tell the kids tomorrow I slept in my clubhouse all night. Well, all right, if you won't do my boy. Leroy, I just thought of something. How about you and me going fishing Saturday all by ourselves? Gee, that'll be swell. Just the two of us? Sure. We men, folks, have got to get off by ourselves once in a while, don't we? Yeah. We have lots of good times together, Leroy. Well, go to sleep now, Leroy. Good night, Aunt. Good night, my boy. Good night, kitty. I'm the great Gilder Sleeve again very shortly. Just one taste will tell you. Just one taste of a hot biscuit topped with parquet. And you'll know that this margarine is prepared like a rare luxury food. For parquet, tastes like a luxury. Tastes like it should cost twice as much. Parquet is nutritious and economical. Though parquet costs only about half as much as the most costly spreads, it gives you every bit as much nourishment, and it's fortified with 15,000 units of essential vitamin A. Tomorrow, get parquet. P-A-R-K-A-Y. Parquet margarine made by Cran. You'll love its delicate flavor on everything from waffles to toast. Because parquet tastes like it should cost twice as much. Leroy. Leroy. Are you asleep? Huh?  What are you doing out here? Is it morning already? No, it's only 2 a.m. What's the matter? Well, I haven't been able to sleep, Leroy. Why not? Baby's been crying quite a bit. He keeps waking me up. Ah, Leroy. Yeah? There's room for both of us in this packing box. 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Behind me, or beside me, I should say, you'll see several subject matter experts from the Unified Command who introduce themselves momentarily. These individuals represent only a small fraction of the many dedicated professionals working around the clock on this complex response effort. We understand this is an extremely difficult time for the families of the missing crew members of our battalion. And our thoughts go out to them and the crew. The Unified Command team is working tirelessly to bring all available assets and expertise to bear as quickly as possible in response to this complex operation. We remain in close contact with the family members and the crew to ensure they are fully aware of our current and future search efforts. Additionally, we have been in close contact with the British and French consulates general to ensure that they are fully appraised in our efforts and we are ensuring that their concerns are being addressed. We're incredibly grateful for the full spectrum of international assistance that has been provided, including an ex-quirk, Submariner from the Royal Navy, here with us serving aboard as a critical member of our team. Additionally, a team of highly trained French ROV operators departed St. John's last night or in route to aid the search. Moreover, our Canadian partners have been providing critical leadership and significant response capabilities since the beginning of our efforts. Again, this is an incredibly complex search operation requiring both surface and subsurface elements. Our unified approach is critical. The location of the search, 900 miles of east to Cape Cod, 400 miles southeast of St. John's makes it exceptionally difficult to mobilize large amounts of equipment quickly. In spite of those challenges, we've been able to provide continuous air and surface search assets, as well as additional ROV capability searched below the surface. We currently have five surface assets searching for the Titan. We expect 10 total surface assets to search in the next 24 to 48 hours. There are two ROVs actively searching and several more are in route and will arrive by tomorrow morning. We've received incredible support with aviation assets from our Coast Guard Air Station in Elizabeth City, the Air National Guard and Canadian Armed Forces. Today, there are two back-to-back P3 flights. One is ongoing now, as I speak, totaling 14 hours of continuous on-scene coverage and two C-130 flights, also one ongoing now, throughout the day and into the evening. Yesterday, the Canadian P3 detected underwater noises in the search area. As a result, ROV operations were relocated in an attempt to explore the origin of the noises. Although the ROV searches have yielded negative results, they continue. Additionally, the data from the P3 aircraft has been shared with our US Navy experts for further analysis, which will be considered in future search plans. The surface search is now approximately two times the size of Connecticut and the subsurface search is up to two and a half miles deep, exponentially expanding the size of the search area. We also have to factor in the ever-changing weather conditions, currents, and sea states that expand the search area every hour. There's an enormous complexity associated with this case due to the location being so offshore, so far offshore, and the coordination between multiple agencies and nations. We greatly appreciate the outpouring of support and offers to provide additional equipment. The unified command continues to prioritize assets and resources in order to provide the best capability in the most timely manner. This includes weighing multiple factors to identify the most effective resources available to the response operation. With careful consideration to the timeliness of equipment arriving on scene, usefulness, and ability to deliver assets to the search area. Over the past 48 hours, we have, through incredible unity of effort, mobilized and implemented a tremendous amount of expertise and response capability. In addition to the ships and aircraft previously mentioned, we've dispatched two subject matter experts from U.S. Navy, NAVSEE, SubSouth, who will serve as search coordinators on scene for underwater search operations. So I've been stressing unity of effort a lot in this statement, and that's because it is absolutely critical to this complex operation. Again, our thoughts and prayers are with the crew of the Titan and their loved ones. We will continue to work as hard and as quickly as possible in an effort to locate them. I will take a few questions, but before I do that, I do want to, I'm gonna have each of the members, the team here, just introduce themselves, and I'll go ahead and take some questions. Good afternoon, I'm Paul Hankins. I'm the director for salvage operations with the U.S. Navy Supervisor of South Baltimore. Hello, I'm Carl Harzbill from the Woods Hull Oceanographic Institute. Good afternoon, I'm Lieutenant Commander Rich Cattoria. I'm an exchange officer, currently serving on the stuff. Come on, let's embrace your thoughts. Christy Butler, working closely with Captain Frederick from RCC Boston, Surgeon Rescue, Mr. Coordinator, thank you. Captain, what can you tell us about the noises that were heard, can you give us any more detail, and just to follow up from what you've gathered so far, based on those noises, should that give the families and the others who care for these people, should that give them some reason to hope? So, a couple things, one, I think when you're in the middle of a Surgeon Rescue case, you always have hope, that's why we're doing what we do. With respect to the noises specifically, we don't know what they are, to be frank with you. The P3 detected noises, that's why they're up there, that's why they're doing what they're doing, that's why they put so on our booze in the water. The good news is, what I can tell you is we're searching in the area where the noises were detected, and we'll continue to do so, and we hope that when we're able to get additional ROVs to be there in the morning, the intent will be to continue to search in those areas where the noise were detected, and if they're continuing to be detected, and then put additional ROVs down in the last known position where the Surgeons are originally taking place. The noise is still being detected, Captain. Regular 30 minutes intervals are reported. I hadn't heard 30 minute intervals, so here's what I can tell you. So, I am not a friend here for underwater aquatics. That's why we have a team of experts that are analyzing that data. That data was sent immediately to the Navy last night, and it was analyzed overnight, they're still looking at it, but I can tell you that it's inconclusive. But again, I think the important piece is we're searching in the area where the noise were detected. Captain, you're talking about the timeline. Can you talk about what timeline you're working on in conjunction with the teams that are there? It's a timeline of what we're spending. How much oxygen did they have left on the board? Oh, okay, so. In terms of, so we talked about the oxygen number. I think you're all tracking the oxygen number. I think there's an important point with that, though. The oxygen, that's just one piece of data, right? There are a lot of data that we need to consider. And we'll continuously looking at that, and we'll continuously do that throughout the search. But that's not the only thing that's important, right? Right now, our efforts are solely focused on the search. That certainly is a dialogue that's happening, but we're focused on searching. And this is a search or rescue, or a rescue? Oh, this is a search or rescue, it's 100%. We are smack dab in the middle of search and rescue, and we'll continue to put every available asset that we have in an effort to define the type that we're looking for. Can I ask one more question on ROVs, and can you confirm that some sort of rectangular object has been spotted? There was some sort of report about that, I don't know. So, well, a couple of things. So, the ROVs, each ROV brings different capability. The ROVs that are diving today, but what's the depth of it? Yeah, 4,000 meters in the, some additional ROVs that'll be arriving tomorrow have additional depth capability. With respect to an object, so yesterday one of the aircraft did see an object, I would tell you this, in search and rescue missions, when aircraft are flying continuously, there is stuff out of the ocean that's floating. We went back, we looked at it, it wasn't, we didn't determine it to be debris, we don't think it correlates with the case, and it is not uncommon at all during an active search to see things and then we go and look at them. Sir, I'm just talking to BBC News. When was the, when were these noises first heard? How long did they exist for? And if I could also ask, do you have any information in terms of food and water that the men might have on board this summer? Yeah, so, so several P3 flights have heard noises as yesterday, we put assets there, we relocated assets immediately. With respect to food and water, is my understanding there are some limited rations? I can't tell you exactly how much they have aboard, but they do have some limited rations aboard. Sir, speaking to the families, how much help can you give to the party hearing those noises? Listen, I think you need to be careful, we need to have hope, right? But I don't, I can't tell you what the noises are, but what I can tell you is, and I think this is the most important point, we're searching where the noises are, and that's all we can do with this. Was that your best clue right now about the status of this submersible of those noises? And are the noises continuing now if they stop or if they continue? So I just wanted to, so it was my understanding that the P3 had heard some noises today as well. So I do want to take just an opportunity to invite Carl to the podium, just to talk a little bit about, he has a little bit more expertise in underwater acoustics, maybe just to speak to that in general, because again, there are noises below the surface of the ocean. Obviously human sounds, nature sounds, and it's very difficult to discern what the source of those noises are at times, but I can't tell you that this team has multiple sensors, they're in the area, they're sending data back expeditiously to the best in the world, people, to analyze that data, and then they're feeding the results of that analyst back to the unified team, and they're making decisions. So Woods Hole is here in an advisory role, but by our expertise, what I see is a very tight operational loop that's making decisions based on data, and nothing is ruled out. Are the noises continuing? As deeply said, you heard the noises this morning, are they still continuing on a regular basis now? There have been multiple reports of noises, and every one of those noises is being analyzed, tracked, looked for patterns, and reported. Can you describe what the noise sounds like that they're hearing? Well, you know, the noises, again, very complex in the ocean. You have to be an acoustic analysis, and you have to have context. They're trying to put all the pieces together. The noises have been described as banging noises. But again, they have to put the whole picture together in context, and they have to eliminate potential man-made sources other than the type. Is it possible that the ship in the ocean, is it possible a ship in the ocean, or even some mammals out there, would mimic that kind of sound? So I can tell you from my experience with acoustics, that there are sounds by biologics that sound man-made to the untrained ear, but I can assure you that the people listening to these tapes are trained. There are a lot of vessels in the area, and they each make noise, right? So all of that has to be eliminated, and it's analysis over time. Plus, as the captain said, the team is searching in the right area. So if you continue to analysis, do the analysis, look for different patterns, and search in the right area, you're doing the best you possibly can do with the best people on the case. Exactly, exactly. I think it was a deep, deep ocean sound system that byway that was sent there to location. Tell us if it's on site yet, and how it operates, and how long it would take for us to get that take. Which, uh... The flyaway? What's the system that you're talking about? It's called the flyaway deep ocean sound system. That's just the hydrology, so... Yeah, so that's right.  There are a lot of pieces of equipment flowing in through St. John's right now. One thing I did want to mention, I think it's important, some of the ROV capability that's arriving soon is really great, incredible capability. One thing I want to point out is that French team that's coming in to serve aboard, with their equipment aboard a French ship, they bring some state-of-the-art equipment, and so once they get on, we're going to have more assets down to look, and we'll continue to equip them where we think the best location is. I'm just wondering how many days does it take? Are you still optimistic that you're going to find the role? So, how many days? Do you guys have how many days? I'm just wondering how many days does it take? Well, so... We have to remain optimistic and hopeful when you're in a search and rescue case. So, we're right in the middle of the search and rescue case, so I don't want to get into a discussion about when that would end with respect to this case. What I will tell you, though, I'm happy to explain to you kind of how that process were to work. You know, the Coast Guard prosecute search and rescue cases on a daily basis, and sometimes we don't find what we're looking for, and you have to carefully consider all of the factors, and there are a lot of factors you consider, and then after you consider all of those factors, sometimes you're in a position where you have to make a tough decision. We're not there yet. But if we continue to search, potentially we could be at that point. But again, we're not there yet, and that's a discussion that we will have with the family long before I'm going to discuss that here at Public Point. Yeah, so I can't put a number on the light. You know, I'm not going to put a... I don't have a percentage number. What I'll tell you is that that is just one data point, and there are more data points than that that we have to focus on. Right now we continue to search. Captain, if I could, who heard the noises, and how often did they hear the noises? Can you just give us any more specifics? Did they hear them this morning? Were they at 30-minute intervals? Just give us some more specifics about the noises. So the report... I'm here just to find the noise. The noises were heard by a Canadian P3, and that was this morning and some yesterday. I don't know specifically, or they're at 30-minute intervals, but again, I really think the important point to that is we're in the air, we're searching there. We moved assets and we're searching there, and we'll continue to do so. Could you just... Captain, let's bang! Let's look back at it. I don't know if you mentioned this yet, but is the vessel itself... What's the likelihood that it's actually still operable at this hour? The vessel itself? Yeah, I don't... Whether it's operable or whether it's sitting on the ocean floor, whether it's in the sea column, whether it's in the surface, it's all speculation. We're just not in the business of speculation. We're in the business of searching. We're putting everything we can with the data we have to search for the vessel. Does the bank... So we asked for some additional sub-surface support, and we got that through the Navy, through a liaison officer. He was just one of many team members, and we're greatly appreciative of the British government and all the support they give us. Captain, are we expecting a daily update now on this? I think the plan will be to do a daily like this. I'm not going to lock into that right now, but we'll keep you informed, and certainly if there's any major developments, let's know. Thank you.