20th to order the quorum and we'll be proceeding through the agenda in the order of items listed. There's three items on our agenda for hearing tonight. Scott, are there any changes to that I didn't see any request. And are there any new communications that weren't posted online. Everything's online Ryan posted something new was it yesterday. Yeah this morning. Okay, for 136 sunset quick. Okay, I see that. And we have a minute from the last meeting. To look at in deliberative. There's any changes. Let us know. There usually aren't. Let us know. So with that, let's call our first public hearing it is ZP 22386. 86 dash 88 North Winooski Avenue application for after the fact permit for the removal of the existing carriage barns garage portion and request to demolish the remaining carriage barn in real rebuild with a new duplex structure as a PUD. The applicant is three G LLC and Michael Alvarez are they here. I'm here. Yeah. Okay. So, just some context from staff since this is an after the fact permit application. If you don't mind Mr Alvarez, we have to swear you in as well. So let me do that first. And anyone else is going to testimony tonight. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury. I knew. Great. Thank you. Mr Alvarez. I wanted to just get staff to briefly explain the after the fact nature of this before we get into the application. Is that okay. Oh, yes, of course. So this is a who wrote the staff report on this one. That was me. Could you just explain to us the after the fact nature and give us some context. Sure. I think it was 2020 when it came to light the structure. The possible demolition by neglect, which means that no care is taken care of it and it's basically falling apart. So staff had learned of this and started the enforcement process back in about in the spring of 2020. And demolition by neglect requires. It's got correct me if I'm wrong. It requires a building inspector to go out and verify that it's unsafe to, you know, habitat, or keep on the property. That never happens. The building inspector never really got out there. So that was the first part within a few months. So that portion of the structure was demolished by the previous property owner. And at that point, the code enforcement staff issued a demolition, you know, notice of violation for demolition without a zoning permit. So that started and I think that was about August of 2020. And that lapsed a year with no action. So they, the city reissued a second notice of violation last year for the demo without a zoning permit. And now we're here. So they've new owners. They took over the property. And now they're applying to get approval for the. Unpermitted demolition and then to proceed with the rest of the carriage barn to demolition that as well. So I have a couple of questions just before we get into it for procedural reasons. I saw the NOVs. And the prior owner didn't appeal those notice of violations or challenge them. You got no response. Is that right? That's my understanding as the code enforcement talked to me the other day that the city attorney's office. She had a step or they had a step to do and I'm not, I can't, I can't really quantify what that step was, but they had to act within a year. And no action had taken place within the year of the first notice of violation. There were two pieces, if I can clarify. There's an initial NOV issued for demolition by neglect under the prior owner. That requires building inspector participation. The short story is he didn't timed out. The owner basically finished the job on that portion of the building without permits again. And so a second follow up notice of violation was issued. And this application before you tonight is an attempt to address and cure that with reconstruction. So the, so, but they didn't take it down. It was gone when they bought it. Right. Am I understanding that correctly? The current owners haven't done anything to it. Correct. And it was, there were violations on it. Yeah, at least notice of violations sent. Now we're not being asked to adjudicate the NOV propriety or not. Right. Correct. So I'm just, I'm just trying to work through it because the staff report says we're reviewing it as if the barn is there. Which is a bit challenging and I'm trying to understand what condition we're supposed to assume it's in the neglected condition, the taken down condition, the 2001 condition. I'm just trying to figure out how to evaluate that aspect of it. I'm just trying to find the barn is there still mostly year to review it as if that portion of the barn had not been removed yet. Are the pictures included in the application? Are those of the barn prior to its removal? That's the current condition, as I understand. Right. That whole, there was a wing that attached to that hole that you see in the bottom two photos.  We have any prior to demolition? Pardon. Do we have any photos of a prior to demolition? There was, you know, there was, I guess the best we came up with was just the aerial. I didn't post that, but there was an aerial photos, you know, dating back a number of years that you could see, you know, there's a hole in the roof, essentially, but I guess I didn't post that. I can take a look at what's associated with the NOV and post that in a moment, assuming I can find it. I think there may have been, sorry to interrupt guys, but I think there may have been a some type of small fire that happened inside the barn as well prior to the, prior to my applicant. So I don't know if that had anything to do with the partial reconstruction of the barn. Well, Scott, that helps. So I guess I'll turn to the applicant, unless anyone else on the board has questions for Scott on sort of that context. No, all right. So Mr. Alvarez, why don't you walk us through the project, explain to us what you want to do and take us through what you're intending here. I think it's pretty straightforward. You know, we looked over the, well, Scott's got a picture. Well, Scott gets that up. You know, my applicant was interested in, there you go, Scott. Pause for a second look over that. Okay. That's 2009. All right, that's helpful. Okay, so the, the, my, my, the owner of the property purchases property fully purchased it owned it as of I want to say January of this year. Submitted an application to originally put a three story duplex on this property on the back. I think an initial round of DAB and basically the, the consensus was it was a little bit that the height of the structure was not in keeping with with the existing surroundings. So we came back. We came back with a two story structure. You know, it's, it's a, it's essentially a side by side duplex that we're putting on property entrances on both sides on that, on the south side of the property, you know, we went with a, you know, pretty simple, some simple materials, you know, some, you know, metal and, you know, five percent board of large windows for the, for the units, just get as much natural light as we can inside of these units. I don't know if you want to go to the plants, Scott or whoever's running the show here but you know it's, it's a pretty straightforward design there's not, you know, we're within the zoning. We try to get as much within the zoning as we can. The property has been reduced a little bit, you know, to be able to make sure we can get people out of the building properly. You can see I've sort of shown where the existing structure is and where the demolished areas. So it was, that's my knowledge. You know, there's, there's a, there's a building in front of the property has two units in it. And I think the owner is actually very interested in trying to get that building up to, you know, up to good shape it's not in the best shape, as we speak and actually I think what, what's sort of holding up the whole project at this point is this violation that we're trying to get put to bed and I think the only way that we can really address it at this point is by, you know, trying to propose a new structure in the back. We had looked over the existing structure. It's in very, very bad shape. The structurally, it's, it's about ready to fall apart just we didn't even, we didn't even really we entered into it but those conditions are extremely unsafe. And the best course of action right now is to remove it, try to salvage as much of the materials we can, you know, try to donate as much as we can to, you know, someone who can use the existing, you know, any existing lumber that's there. Try to salvage as much as we can and then try to propose a new structure that I think isn't keeping with, with what the, the zoning allows. So that's, that's sort of the grand plan. You know, again, I think it's a pretty straightforward side by side duplex with, you know, you know, pretty simple building all together, happy to take questions or feel as much as I can. Yeah, I have a question for staff open on that. So, Ryan, this, I think there's something in your staff report that says there's a six month timeline for them to start construction. Am I right. That's accurate that that goes with the historic. And what is the month timeline start. I believe it's from when the actual deconstruction happens. So it's not the partial, it's the rest of the deconstruction. Right approval tonight fine but if you just deconstruct and, you know, April. Okay. Okay. And I'll just ask the applicant is that something that you're on board with. So just, just so I'm clear, you know, you're asking that if we deconstruct the barn next month from there we have six months to rebuild that we are six months to start construction. Right. Right. Yeah, I have no, I don't have, unless unless you know something I don't know what's about. No, I don't think I think my applicants really gone how I know my only question, kind of with regards to that is we were, we really would like to repair the building in the front as quickly as possible so I know that would be a different application to come in but I think my the owner has been interested in trying to just have some new doors and windows in the front building. So I think that was kind of the only, the only, the only phase out thing where he was interested in doing is, you know, getting the front building, you know, buttoned up as best he could for winter, and then start this start this project as soon as possible. Thank you. And so Brad, I need to clarify that. And so I'm glad you brought that up because we are considering this as if the building's already there but the building's not there. So I think, as a condition if we were to approve this, we'd want to note that the commencement of new construction runs from further demolition is that is that right. I would say so yeah, I am basically complete deconstruction demo starts the clock. Looks like there are two previous zoning permits on this. It knows that they were both requested demolish historic carriage find, both of which are expired with those ever approved or was just the request that expired. The prior request timed out. I don't know about to do Ryan. Yeah, one time timed out for this same application but I'm not sure about the other one. Let me look. Oh yeah they're both 20. Yeah there were just two separate applications the first one was to address the already demolished portion. That was the first one. And then, you know within two weeks they probably they've submitted to demolish the rest of the overall structure, so that fell into two different applications but we process them as one process. But they did time out so that's why they expired. And I'll add that in the conditions there is condition number. Five talks about replacement construction of the replacement duplex shall commence within six months from the time of carriage barn demolition. I don't know if that'll address your concern AJ. No, no, I, okay, I hadn't gone through that yet. So sorry. But well carriage barn demolition I think what I was trying to articulate is that we're being asked to consider it as if there's carriage barn there, when it's not there. And so it's, I don't want someone to show up and say well wait it's it's half of it's gone. It's been six months.  And there's another part that's going to get taken down, which is really what we want the trigger to be right. That makes sense. Are there any other questions. Yeah, yeah, fire away. Great thanks. Michael I see the elevation comparison to the old barn can I didn't see anything that compares to the structure in the front can you just tell me sort of elevation wise. How it compares to that and then it wasn't really any assessment of the building's visibility from the street. The building you're proposing seems a little out of character with the other buildings on this street. Just interested in how visible it's going to be. I'll answer the second question first. You, there's no visibility to the reapportion is property. So, you know, the, the site is actually really tight the front, the building in the front. You know, is clearly takes precedent. It's an old, I want to say like Queen Anne style building in sort of a mustard color. You know, the two, the two sort of counterpoint one another. This was an attempt to try to build something more, you know, contemporary a little more modern standards, and sort of compare and contrast the two. But you really would only, you would really only see that if you were probably somebody who lived there. I will never see this building from the street. So as I drive by, I'll know it's there, and I'll smile, but you'll never see it so. So that's one thing you just don't get any vision, you don't get any sense of what this building is from the street, but the two are counterpoint, they're different, they're just different the only thing that they share is sort of that mustard color that that you're seeing. Thanks. And how about visibility from the back. There seems like there's a lot of existing vegetation back there does the owner have plans to remove substantial amount of that vegetation. Most of the vegetation. Scott, if you wouldn't mind just going to the site plan. The vegetation towards the rear this property primarily is on the on the, all the adjacent properties. So there's sort of an existing tree canopy that comes from 82 North from new ski the one to the south. You know that sort of covers a little bit of of our property but not not tremendously and then to the east, a lot of those properties are the backyards to the street on the other end and I think there's a number of trees that are that are sort of covering this area to and then the site directly to the north is a parking lot. So it doesn't have any vegetation. Then there's no, there's no land existing landscaping in the park. And then I think I think we're proposing to add, you know, right now, obviously it's, it's hard packed gravel. It's primarily used as a, you know, the area that is directly in front of the carriage barn today if you want to walk there is just hard packed gravel. And I think all around it there's some existing concrete they used to be like a concrete driveway, and our proposal is to reintroduce landscaping, you know, grass and very shrubs. Okay, thanks. So is the proposed structure, the new structure, just looking at the plan here. It looks like it's, is it within the side yard setback and if so is it in. Is there an increasing. Yeah, the staff report mentioned there was no, if anything the non conformity was decreasing with this new structure. But just wondering if the, the length of that new structure along the northern property, if the length of that non conformity is increasing. Yeah, my understanding question, and that's a what if the length of the existing barn or existing carriage house. We tried to match that or we match that length down to the inch. So what you see is a little sort of kick, you know, and then the new sort of this. Can I annotate on here. No, I can't. The barn, it is within the side yard setback, we're using that to our advantage, or the new building is within the same side yard setback as the existing carriage house, but there is a portion of the building that now heads farther south and sort of dog legs out. And that is because the portion of that building has to conform with the zoning by the zoning ordinance. That's why we didn't, that's why you see a little dog legs or happen there. Someone's going to draw. Yeah. That's basically. So that area that portion that has been highlighted is now, you know, comes into conformity, and there where it cuts where it cuts back is where the existing carriage barn sits. And I think you can see here too this is a good illustration of, you know, the, the building in the front really takes, you know, it's very, very difficult to see this building in the back, you know, the way it's positioned. You know, you'd have to literally be walking by and, and be directly in front of the driveway to see that structure. So I think the only, the only people that would actually see as people are walking by. I don't think if you're in a car, and I think North movies is only one way and so as you're heading south on north movies ski. You know, you basically basically get maybe maybe a glimpse of it. Anybody else, anybody else questions. I mean, I will say that. I think this board has heard a lot of demolition by neglect or are similar losses of historic properties. And, you know, I understand why the Novs might not have been vigorously enforced. I don't think we love seeing demolition by neglect. It's not this applicant that did I understand that. I don't think we particularly like it I think it's something that we struggled with in the past. And, you know, perhaps if that 2020 Nov had been more attic, you know, more stringently enforced we might have been able to save a historic structure or at least save more portions of it. That's, I don't think part of the discussion tonight. I just it's just something that we've seen time again with these demolition by neglects and you know we do need to work to save historic properties in the city. So that's my two cents that's not necessarily relevant to this discussion tonight but do we have people in the audience who want to speak on this application. Sharon Buescher. Okay. I see Sharon with her hand up so Sharon by all means floors yours. Yes, can you hear me. Yes. Okay, I wasn't sure if I was muted on your end. Thank you for listening to my comments. AJ stated, basically, my, my concern of these older structures, carriage barns or carriage houses or historic little sheds that are neglected. And then the property owner says I have no choice. I have to demolish it because it would cost too much it's unsafe. I think the time that presents itself, or by the time the city has a chance to notice it and, and I'm not faulting the city for trying to be a watchdog for all of these I think it takes the community, and the neighbors to kind of alert people that there's something you know that might be unsafe a structure that's being neglected but my concern is that, you know, I, I attend a lot of these and I have lost track of the number of times an applicant has come before you to ask for the demolition of a carriage barn. And I know that this owner is a new owner, and he inherited a history. So the fact that demolition after the fact is something that is just something you just have to act upon. The structure that currently still stands. You know, I haven't gone to the property so shame on me but I've looked at those pictures from all angles, and you know tried to figure out if indeed there was a way to remedy. And I, I've come to the conclusion that most likely, sadly, most likely I think it would be cost prohibitive for most people to restore that, or maybe impossible. I don't like letting go of something like this, because I feel that at some point if I live long enough, you're, we're going to be at a juncture where you're going to be dealing with the last carriage barn. And you're going to be faced with the fact that there will no longer be these structures in Burlington to recall. And I'm saying that, you know, maybe that won't come to pass but I have a fear that it will come to that before somebody will say, we've got to do something we've got to take more serious action. You know, this is historic and speaking of historic the house in front, as I understand is historic also. And I heard the new owner say that, rightly so, wanted to start getting better doors and windows. If it truly is a historic structure. I know that's not before you but window replacement really needs to be done in a manner that is consistent with materials that can be used or windows that are appropriate for historic structures. I'm just offering that out there, because I've been following this topic for quite a while. And it's before I mean the design advisory board has dealt with some of these issues. The other factor is I guess beauty is in the eye of the creator. I really don't like mixing and Matt matching. So I'm not. I don't love the new structure that is being proposed. I applaud the new owner for creating more housing. I don't know if it's going to be affordable. I hope it would be but I don't know that. But I know we need more housing. But I just wanted to weigh in on on the fact of the importance of what the chair of the the DRB said about trying to act on these structures earlier. This is for the city so that we're not at this point where you you feel like you're backed in a corner and you really have no choice but to approve demolition. So thank you very much for listening. I think with that, unless anybody has any other questions, we'll close the public hearing on this item. I suspect we'll deliberate on this tonight based on this length of our agenda. So the next item we have on our agenda is 35 Loomis Street, which is the application of Caitlin Halpert to install two exterior compressors for Douglas heating and cooling, including one within the side yard setback. As the staff report notes, this would be normally handled administratively but because this is a corner lot and I suspect existing non conformity of encroachment into the side yard setback. We need to review this. Do I have that right staff. That is correct about the encroachment. It's not really driven by being a corner lot. It's all about adding a little bit of stuff within a setback. Okay. Oh, Caitlin you're recused from this obviously. Yeah, I will say I am recused I am the applicant. I didn't think I swore you in during the beginning so I guess I have to do that. And to use where to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury. I do. So just briefly tell us we got to do it as a hearing so briefly tell us what you want to install here. Yeah, definitely. So, I think where the corner lot is relevant it's just because the placement of the house on the lot. The house it's against the two side yard setbacks. So there is not really any very many options for where to place compressors to add energy efficient heating and cooling. So that is the entire goal here is to add energy efficient heating and cooling. That will serve for zones within the home through to outdoor units. So if you go to the site plan. I can give you idea of the house sitting basically all the way against those side yard setbacks on on the west side and that's outside of the house. Due to a few other considerations there's kind of nowhere else to put a unit other than these two locations. I think these are challenging. It seems relatively small project is anyone else on the board have any questions. I've got a question. Caitlin, did you consider putting the both on the same side on the west side of the house where the other one is. The issue is with the zones that are being served by it and the amount of construction that would be required to bring the the lines through to the other side of the house so the one smaller unit that is on the east side of the house or plan to be on the east side of the house is serving a room that has exterior walls on that side so it's really the easiest way to install it. Is that really intended to be skewed that way. Yes, what's not pictured in this is this is like a bay window layout. So against the angled wall which you can't tell from the Eve layout. It looks like you have to repair some of the landscaping when these go in. There's going to be almost no change to the landscaping there is one deciduous bush where that east side unit is going. That's depending on how much clearance I have I might replace with something else, but otherwise what's pictured on this diagram will all be that's all currently there and will be staying there. It's a tight, it's a tight lot there. We have anybody I don't see anybody in our chat wants to speak on this. Now we just have a couple applicants for the next item. Anybody from the board of any other questions for Caitlin. Alright, with that I'll close the hearing on this item. Thank you. So, just lost my agenda. Sorry about that. The last item on our agenda for tonight is 136 sunset cliff road ZP 22-403 a request for tree removal. The applicants are 136 sunset cliff camp and William the boss. The applicants are here I imagine someone for them. And we've got Tom the buff and I think it's Brad steel, the builder and owner don't see the harvest. So we have these two folks. Um, so Scott, before we have Tom and Brad, were you here when I swore everybody in. I was not. I was not. I don't know if you can see me or not, but that's okay. Do you, do you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury. I do. Okay. So, before we go on, I just again want to have Scott run through this because there's some newer members who might not have dealt with this Scott. It's not something we often see, but they've come up a few times. So this has two pieces. One is the city. The zoning code has a general tree cutting standard under article five. I forget the numbers off my head, but basically a smaller number of big trees triggers DRB review. And then there's a number of smaller trees. So enough trees are being cut here that you see it. This went to the conservation board because it's also in the lakeshore buffer. Which establishes an upper limit of 25%. They're obviously well below that, but it's in the lake shore buffer conservation board looked at it did a site visit. And then the approval but suggested I think it was a group of trees in the southwest corner, be retained. But the short answer is they're cutting out trees that the zoning code says DRB review that approval is needed. And it was marked for consent agenda. So, we just didn't have one or what was the suggestion to move it off of the fruit of Ryan. Sorry. And that was, yeah, it was changed to non consent per the conservation boards request to have a site visit. So some more review they wanted to do I figured that would trigger the need for more discussion tonight, if needed. Um, but they have heard it, and they did make their recommendation, correct. Correct. Yeah, so this is Tom LeBuff talking. Bill DeVos sent that letter, I believe this morning, or last night. I mean, obviously the recommendation of saving the three south cedars. He was just commenting on that. One of them is appears to be almost dead at the bottom of it, there's a chunk of the trunk that, and it's only probably a two or three inch caliper tree and there's a section of the trunk that's sort of worn away and the other one is sort of leaning and bent over at the top. So I think he was just commenting on that his recommendation is that those two are in, you know, poor condition and and don't have any real benefit to save those on that. section of the property we can certainly cut them at the, at the base and leave the roots intact so that erosion is prevented. But I think he was just commenting on those three trees. Can I ask you to follow up on that. Yeah, yeah, I'm still trying to line that up. Tom, there's a photograph that was submitted, and it shows the face of the house and the construction, and there's two, it looks like two, maybe three cedars on the right hand side of that photograph. Are those the cedars that we're talking about. I'd have to look at the photo Brad, I'm not. No, not those. No. Those were those were approved to come down because they're leaning right up against the house essentially. So it's none of those. The site plan has some blue marks on it. But it doesn't seem like the trees are on the site plan either. Not from the original site plan that was approved through zoning. No, they weren't located, although, I think that bill alongside Jack Milbank sent along revised version that may have those three trees on there. Scott, do you recall that. Are you Ryan? No, no, I'm not aware of it. If you look at the site plan, yeah, those blue marks, I assume those are the trees being taken down. We don't know. Those are. However, that's not the location of the three that we're talking about. Which are close to the existing slate walkway to remain. They're right in that. In that area where that arrow is pointing to underneath the square box around install sill fence down gradient of all disturbed areas. Essentially right in that spot.  To maintain its healthy nature. But the other, there's certainly one that, you know, even my inexperience it's, there's some dead limbs on it and the base of it doesn't seem like it's in very good shape and then the second one, about halfway up, it bends over 90 degrees towards the lake and I think it was doing that to, I guess to get to some, some light, you know. So those two are I think are the, the main ask that Bill wrote about last night. This is Brad steel to the owner. I would add that the conservation board had recommended adding a few animal anchors in the back area, which we're happy to do. We're planning to plant four or five juniper eastern cedars in the what blue point junipers in the front so they are trying to replace a number of trees, you know, for some of the trees we're taking down that are just, you know, too close or diseased, too close to the house and weaning in some cases uprooted partially, or, you know, as Tom indicated in the back disease. I'll just ask. What are the marks then on the site plan. Yeah, I don't try to figure that out. The marks of the trees I'm hearing that it hasn't been updated though to show all of them, and it should be, you know, actually now that when we had that meeting Scott I remember Bill saying that he forgot to put those, even though they were tagged with orange ribbon that I believe he did forget to put these on this application, on this site plan as a blue dot. I remember we talked about that now. During that site visit the conservation board came and anyway, I remember that being a topic. The trees look the blue dots look accurate except that they're to the southwest corner of the property or the house you see that one blue dot. I remember the other, the three cedars are. That's one of the three and there are two others there. The other things look accurate. I see. Was that one seed or you're planning to keep. It could be I don't know, you know, it's it's where the one cedar is, you know, along with the other two that are not in this good shape. We just forgot about those two not, not all three. Well we need a second. That's accurate. We have any other questions. I suppose, you know, you know, those, if those two smaller disease trees that we were mentioning next to that lonely blue dot that is circled in yellow. I suppose those, you know, we could. I mean, obviously, I don't want to delay this approval tonight, because it would have significant impact on my fall schedule if I don't.   But I suppose that, you know, we could come back for a second, you know, zoning permit for those other two at a later date. What is worth conservation board was out there in person and saw in person all the trees debris be removed, including the three in the Southwest made the recommendation based on that. But agreed, we should really have an accurate site plan. What, what about this site plan is inaccurate. I think we're missing the blue dots are supposed to represent. I believe it was I understand that the trees that are getting cut. That's correct. And I thought the discussion was that we're missing some blue dots. Also hearing that there are additional tree replacement plantings that are not recorded on this either. Right. So the two dots that are that are not here. Blue dot that circled in yellow are the of the three that the conservation board recommended stay. All of the other dots are accurate. So, if, if the decision is that, you know, we have to, you know, follow the concert conservation boards. We have to keep those three cedars and so be it. And then we could try to, you know, apply for another permit later on to cut those. And the, the, the amulet the amulet anchors were forwarded. I think I forwarded the planting list to Scott, which was in addition to this site plan that shows the existing trees that are on the line and also the additional trees that are to be planted from the original zoning application request. The governor was mentioning the conservation court recommended some additional replacements are those reflected on this site plan currently or not. Those are, I think in reflection to the Norway maples that are further along on the southern side of the property. If the Norway maples come down that that they're replaced with service berry trees. The amulet interest were part of the conservation board recommendation so this plan preceded that. So we were just saying we're more than comfortable we have already planted three animal interest in that back area and we're happy to add a couple more for the conservation boards recommendation. There's a large oak there and so we're, you know, understory trees make sense Norway maples do not make sense and or as you probably realize, incredibly invasive. I think I've got my questions answered. I appreciate it. Anybody else otherwise I'd close the hearing on this one. I'll close the hearing on that item. So we've three items to deliberate on. We have nothing else on our agenda. And so I will close the agenda. I will close our hearing for the night. And that wraps up our recording stopped. I'm assuming the board's okay with deliberating on these three items tonight. Nobody. Otherwise. Do we have Sean here tonight. We need him for 245 Loomis, but not for the other ones. So let's start with Caitlyn's application Caitlyn ear muffs. I think it's a pretty simple request seems like a good place for these doesn't seem like there's any other any other options. You know, we're going to see more of this as people start installing heat pumps. I think this is a good example of how to do it. So, I'm fine with it and we have any other issues. I'll make a motion. Oh, go ahead. I was just going to comment. I understand Caitlyn's rationale for putting the second one on the side. You know, and it's less expensive to do it that way. But, you know, it could go on the backside with a little bit more expense. I mean, if it wasn't screened, I think it's going to be screened. I think that would be something to consider but I do think it's going to be pretty screened so it is important to know though that that we're not just doing this without it. I think it's going to stick it in the middle of your yard and the setback is seemingly going to be screened and not have an impact on show show off the mechanical. I'm not increasing the encroachment to the setback anymore. True. True. So Jeff, you were going to make a motion. Yeah, I recording in progress. Move on to 45 Loomis Street. The application number in front of me is. I don't have it going to 40, 488. Thank you, AJ. That we approve the application and adopt staff's findings and recommendations. Second, chase. Further discussion. All those in favor. Hi. So that's it. That's everybody. Thank you. Recording stopped. Next is the 8688 North Moosky Avenue project. After the factor removal of the carriage. I don't understand how these properties change hands with these like unresolved issues. That's a good question, isn't it. The same thought today. I had a similar concern that Jeff voiced and. I suppose it isn't really our purview. That's really more for the design advisory board to think more about design, but it seems. But it seems odd that that. They could make something a little bit more similar, but I don't think that we have the jurisdiction rule on that. So. I'll pipe up on that. I think we actually do have the jurisdiction rule on that. With the advice design advisory board is an advisory board to us. And so we don't have to agree with them. I will say, though, I have no issue with the modern design and back here. There's a number of projects. Probably more visible than this one would be along. The The Willard Street and I'm trying to do other ones around town. And they quietly sit there speaking of a different time that these things were built in. I don't think they offended the other things. They don't. They don't impact the streetscape, which a lot of places, a lot of cities would impact the streetscape a lot more. But I don't really have an issue with that. I think it. There's no rule that we have to build everything as if it was built in 1888. Yeah. Well, people strive for that a lot of them. Yeah, but they use modern tools and technology to do it. Yeah, I was less concerned because I really don't think the building is going to be visible. I, you know, I understand the balance between trying to make something new look new and not match it. I think they could have given a little more credence to the barn back there, but we've approved similar projects and I wouldn't be inclined to vote against it. Frankly, it feels like a space where even though the DAB didn't think so, they could have done more housing. Yeah. True. Okay. Anybody want to make a motion on this? I do think your point about demolition running six months from the further construction. We need to note that further demolition. Just just thinking for just one more second about the issue of properties changing hands and demolition by neglect. Well, I was going to say that maybe there's there's some way we can we can think about future projects but, but, but actually, I don't know what to do about it, Leo, like it's they only come to you when they're so neglected that they're the only obvious choices to demolish them. And I haven't seen a situation and I'm not entirely sure how the city would just say to a landowner you have to repair that. Maybe they have to put a stake in the ground earlier to say, we're giving you notice that, we're not going to allow this to prove it as a demolition because it's being neglected, but it's really, it's really challenging. Yeah. It's frustrating to see because I Jeff I don't remember which one we had that was very frustrating to see because I think we both came way thinking boy this could have been saved. Yeah. I don't remember it was a carrot barn, but I think it was the one over on pine street. Yeah. Yeah, that seems great. Yeah, north of the mall. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, the reality though is I'm a big proponent of historic preservation at the same time. These are largely empty buildings at the backs of lots at a time when we need lots of housing in this area so as I've always approached these historic preservation issues. And I think they can meet the standard of showing the public benefit of removing that kind of structure. We have the authority to approve it. It's just, it's really hard to deal with that when it gets to this point of collect. Yeah. So with that, I'll make a motion. Go for it. Good. Recording in progress. Okay. So 68. Through 88 North Windows. Yeah, which is ZP 22 dash three. Eight, six. I move that we approve the application adopt staff findings and conditions with the noted. I think that's a point of further demolition of the remaining barn. I'll second that. Any other discussion. All those in favor. Okay. Recording stopped. So lastly, ZP 22403 136 sunset cliff road. I'm not the only one, but. I'm still unsure as to exactly what's getting cut and whether or not they agree. With the conditions of the. Conservation board or not. Good. I don't think they do. I mean, I think that. I didn't instill a lot of confidence in me and their ability to answer questions, but yeah, I got the sense they want to cut down all of the trees. I don't want to take the recommendation. Even when they said, oh, if you're, if it allows us to approve something this time and you disapprove those three will apply to cut them down later. Was kind of how I read their answer. I do not feel a comment with what we have in front of us for how would we have any accountability on what they're cutting down and not the fact that there's already dramatic changes to the planting schedule and aspect of the site plan. Without having that documented. I would like a real new site plan. What is our next meeting or Mary or Ryan or anybody who happens to know. October for as small items. That's historic preservation training. Could we go forward and approve it consistent with the conservation board recommendations they did the site visit. And then require the applicant to file a conforming plan that just shows what is being cut down consistent with that recommendation because I'm okay with that. Yeah, I need to go forward now with what everyone agrees can be removed. I think the conservation board went out there and saw the trees tag. They knew exactly what they were looking at the follow up documentation that we're looking at, which is just jumbled. I'm no, there's no identification with the blue marks are and all that. My tendency to say, approve exactly with the conservation board recommended period and then if they want to deal with those other cedars they can come back. I'm okay with that. I don't have a problem with that. It's a good idea. Yeah, I'll make a motion recording in progress on ZP 22403 136 sunset cliff road. I move that we approve the application adopt staffs finding their recommendations, and also the recommendation of the conservation board that the, what they labeled as the street three cedar trees of the southwest corner. I also believe they should submit a revised landscape plan and site plan, because it's not really clear. They gave a long planting list but they didn't really clarify where that is. Any second. I love. Sorry, Brad just just the wording of that last part I think you said they should submit a site plan. Yeah, they should. They should submit a revised site plan they print they supply provide this big plant list, but no indicate I mean that may be in the file someplace else but it's, I think it's just really this application just as inconsistent documentation I think really more than even I don't think there's any bad intent with it. I just think we should have better documentation in the file. Okay. I'm okay with that. And we have a second. Yes. Right. So, all those in favor, wraps it up. Recording stopped. So I'll see everybody on October 4. See you next time. Good night.


You do not want to miss today's program, as we just have anointed worship, as we take Holy Communion, get into a great word, and just pray over all of the prayer requests. Stay tuned for a glorious program today. What all our sins and griefs to beg, sing to God in prayer. Christ, it's my favorite week of the Jesus spent on the cross Sunday. Wow, we're so glad you've tuned in today.  Pastor Myra was leading us in our time of worship. I'm Pastor Gary here with Pastor Rebecca Luker, Pastor Jonathan Schaefer, and I can't wait to get started. I feel the resurrection energy in the studio today. I pray that you feel it wherever you're watching this today. I don't know what you came into this program with. I don't know what's going on around you right now, but here's the one thing I know for sure, that we are celebrating the historical reality that our God became flesh and death couldn't hold him down. He was raised for our vindication. He took our sickness and disease upon him. There is nothing in the universe that can hold us down because our God is risen. Praise the Lord, Amen. And I'm so thankful that you have chosen to let us be a part of your celebration and you're going to be a part of ours today as well. We are blessed to know that Jesus Christ is alive and well. We're thankful of his sacrifice. I'm thankful to know that everything that we need, he has accomplished for us. So whatever you're needing today as you're watching, just know that God is on your side. He is fighting for you. He finished it all at Calvary so that you could have victory today. And I'm thankful for that, Pastor Gary. You know, the incarnation is really what separates Christianity from all the other religions of the world. Karna flesh, God became a man. The word became flesh. When Pilate at the Praetorium was introducing Jesus, he prophesied. He didn't know it, but he said, Behold the man is what differentiates, sets aside Christianity from every other religion in the world. Absolutely. And I love the resurrection of Christ because it is that historical fact. All these other religions, they have ideas or concepts, but we have a historical Christ. We have a man, Jesus of Nazareth, who proclaimed to be God, who did and was noted as performing miracles, demonstrating that he was something different. He was publicly crucified. And then his lifeless body was put in a tomb on Friday evening. And then on Sunday morning, just as he had said, just as prophets for centuries had said, He rose from the grave and personally, Pastor Rebecca, I think it takes more faith to believe that his disciples, all of whom except for John abandoned him, overpowered the equivalent of a Roman SWAT team that was stationed at the tomb, then took his body out. Oh, and before taking it out, unwrapped it from the grave clothes and neatly folded them up. You know, when I'm doing a heist, I like to leave the scene nice and neat and then hid his body somewhere in Jerusalem, which was somewhere between three times its normal population because of the Passover feast. And no one ever found the body. I think it takes more faith to believe that than to believe an angel came down from heaven, rolled the stone away because Jesus doesn't have to open his own doors. And Jesus the Christ stepped out, qualifying and quantifying everything he said so that we can put our faith, not in some ethereal God, but in a real, like you said, an incarnate, an in flesh God who bore the wounds for our salvation. Buddha's still in the grave, Confucius is still in the grave, Mohammed is still in the grave, but Jesus' tomb is empty.  What would make his disciples and people generations after Jesus was on this earth give their lives, be tortured, be murdered for the cause of Christ if he didn't exist? There is facts. Like you said, Pastor Jonathan, there are facts to the fact that Jesus was here on earth. He died and he rose again. He is alive and well, Pastor Gary. And we have a hope not only for today, but for eternity. Hold your Bible up for a minute. This book is different than any other book that's ever been written in the history of mankind. And we're going to get into the word. Right now we're going to ask Pastor Myra if she would come over and join us. Join us in Matthew chapter 27. Oh, the Gospel is so rich and full of the Good Friday Resurrection Holy Week events. Now let's look at Good Friday for just a moment. Matthew 27 verse 45. Now from the sixth hour, Jesus is on the cross, until the ninth hour, there was darkness over all the land.  Why have you forsaken me? Listen, the Bible tells us very plainly, the wages of sin is death. We've all sinned. We were all born with a sin nature because of Adam and Eve's rebellion in the garden.  But Jesus Christ took our place. The Bible says he became the propitiation, the substitute for our sins. And the Bible says he who knew no sin, Jesus never committed a sin, but he became sin for us as he hung on the cross. That is why the Father had to turn away. Because number one, Jesus took our place and he became sin for us. I get overwhelmed when I think about that fact that I know how on my worst days I feel. I know how on those days when I know I've fallen short of where God's wanted me to be, how that guilt feels like it's just overwhelming to me.  And to think that everything that I have felt, everything that you have felt, everything that we all have felt in the negative, the pain, the agony, the guilt, the turmoil, whatever it might be, the grief that some of you may be going through right now. Jesus on Calvary bore all of that. How overwhelming that must have been. And then on top of it to know that God didn't want anything to do with him at that point because he couldn't look at him because of the sin that was on him. I can't imagine being in that position that Jesus was in. Just in the little bit that I feel in the guilt and pain in this world. But Jesus bore all of our guilt and pain on Calvary. Amazing God. And amazing grace. Amen. And I think about death as being defined as separation from life. And Jesus loved us so much. The father loved us so much that he took our place being separated from God, separated from life for eternity. Jesus tasted death so we wouldn't have to. And I'm just glad about that. I'm just thrilled. And some people might say, oh well, you all praise God too much. You all listen. If you understand what he did. If you really embrace what he did, rejoice. It causes you to rejoice because he did take our place. And it's one of those things that, you know, it validates what God says in the scriptures. There's no avoiding death for anyone. You know, you may be watching right now and say I'm a pretty good person. I'm not a sinner. I'm not as bad as this person or that person. And so the question isn't whether or not you're a sinner. I mean, that is, but the really overlying question is this. Do you expect to die one day? The Bible says in Hebrews that it's appointed for all men that they should die and then face judgment.  But the scripture tells us in Romans 5 that death is in the world through sin. And that sin came through one man, the first Adam. But our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ came as the second Adam. And the Bible says just in the same way as Adam's one action caused all to die because all have sinned. How much more does Jesus's one act of righteousness, him being made flesh, him living a sinless life, him dying on the cross and him raising again. How much more does that one act affect those who by faith receive that act? And so right now the question isn't whether or not you have sinned. That's a sign sealed and delivered reality. But have you received by faith that action of Jesus Christ that makes men righteous? And I want to encourage you right now, no matter what you have done, no matter what you are currently doing, Jesus's blood is enough to cleanse and to remove the guilt and stain of sin from your life. All it takes is your faith in apprehending that what he did almost 2,000 years ago on the cross wasn't just for that bad person or for this good person. It was for all people and if you would just receive that now, his life would come and deliver you from death to life. What a great, great gift we have. Because the son, and I don't know who was more willing, the father or the son, because I know it was a great act for Jesus to come and do what he did. But I'm a father.  I'm not giving my child for you. I'm just not. I love them too much. But our father in heaven gave his son for us because you know why? He knew he'd raise him back to life. He knew death wasn't going to hold him down. So I'm just thankful today that Jesus, like you said Pastor Gary, became my propitiation for sin so that I could have his life. That's right. He paid a debt. He did not owe. I owed a debt. I could not pay. You know Jesus, he was crucified on Passover. He is our Passover lamb. If you go all the way back to Exodus chapter 12, there were three requirements for the Passover lamb.  And Jesus fulfilled as our Passover lamb all of those requirements. He shed his blood for us. And oh, there's power in the shed blood of Jesus Christ. Then it says in Matthew 27 verse 50, and Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and then he yielded up his spirit. Then behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. And the earth quaked and the rocks were split and the graves were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised and coming out of the grave after his resurrection. They went into the holy city and appeared to many. Wow, that is crazy. And my second point and one of the Gospels says it this way, it is finished. What does that mean? It is paid in full. You and I have been redeemed. We've been redeemed from the curse of the law. Galatians 3 says anyone that hangs on a tree is cursed. And Jesus hung on Calvary's tree and cross became a curse for us so that we could be redeemed from the curse of sin, the curse of sickness, the curse of poverty and the curse of death. And I like that is the veil was rent not from bottom to top. That's religion. That's man seeking God. This was God reaching down out of his great love to mankind. The veil was rent from top to bottom. It's finished. What he did for us. It is finished. Don't think that you have to do this, that and the other when you accept Christ by faith. It is finished. Now we're not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. John said it this way. He said he is faithful and just to forgive and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. It happened at the resurrection or on the cross and it's happening through our lives that Christ or the Word of God sanctifies us. The Word of God as we continue to eat the Word of God to subject ourselves to the Word of God. It washes us. It cleanses us. It's a finished work and I'm glad about it being finished. Even you who are watching right now who are suffering immensely, you suffer from a guilty conscience, a guilty conscience. And the Lord said in his Word that Jesus was raised from the dead and he cleansed us from a guilty conscience. You are cleansed if you allow yourself to just let God, let the Spirit of God do his work in you. It's finished. It is finished. Let God finish the work in you. Don't get weary. Don't stop. God is not finished with you yet but the work of the cross done. Amen. And that's something that you want to remember. It is finished but he's not finished. He's not done with you yet. I love this Word. It's one Word in Greek which is what the New Testament's written in. It was often seen in stores when a bill would be paid in full like Pastor Gary said. Now I'm of the generation. We didn't have Amazon and all these online and credit cards and different things like that. I grew up where when we went shopping we would go and there was this little room in the back of the department store called the Layaway Department. Because we couldn't just, Layaway was when you couldn't buy it outright but you wanted to get it so that it was still there. But what you would do is you would take the items that you were buying. You'd go back to the Layaway Department. You'd hand it to the person across the counter. They put it in a little box for you and it was on Layaway. It was held for you until the full price of the items were paid. But when the full price of the item was paid everything that was in the box was now yours for the taking. It belonged to you. Jesus through his work on the cross has stamped, paid in full on all of the promises, all of the blessings, all of the breakthroughs that you've been waiting. And I'm here to tell somebody today you don't have to wait for it anymore. You just have to go back to the room and pick up what's been paid for. Jesus has paid it all and all to him, I owe. Jesus has finished it. It is paid in full. So all you have to do is pick it up. It belongs to you. So your breakthrough, your healing, that financial miracle you're looking for, that restoration of family member and friends. It is all been paid for.  Ephesians 1 chapter 3 or chapter 1 verse 3 says it this way. He has blessed us with every blessing in heavenly places in Christ. They're not here. You have to go to heaven and get them. But Jesus has opened the way. The veil has been torn. We can go into the Holy of Holies and get what Jesus paid for. That's right. The Word of God tells us any man is in Christ. He has a new creation. Old things have passed away. Behold, all things become new. You are not bound to the sin in your life. You are not bound to those things of your past. Because Christ has come, it is finished. He has finished the work.  You just need to walk it out and trust Him. I love Pastor Mary, when you say about the Word of God sanctifying us. Because as we're in the Word of God, you say, well, what if I sin? What if I mess up? That's what the Word of God is there. The Holy Spirit will tap you on the shoulder and say, this is where you need to grow. The Word of God fills you up, fills your heart and your mind so you know what path to stay on. And it guides you so that when you do mess up, you ask God, forgive me for this mistake that I made, and you keep moving forward. You keep moving on.   But because you are a new creation in Christ Jesus, you realize what he did on the cross is settled and done. And now you just have to keep moving forward. Keep trusting Him. Keep reading the Word. Keep allowing the Holy Spirit to direct your path. And you will make it because he doesn't want you to fail. He wants you to make it. It is finished in your life. His work is finished.  Why do you think the Scripture is filled with those things? Because Jesus finished it on Calvary. He knows there is nothing to fear. Not even death should we fear. I am thankful for the blood of Jesus. I am thankful that He rose and that He's coming back again. You know, Good Friday is the perfect day to just claim and receive your healing. Because it's been paid in full. It's finished. Jesus took every sickness, every disease, every pain on His body and with and by the stripes He bore, Jesus shed His blood seven different times. And He shed that blood for your healing and for mine. Well, let's finish this up in Matthew 27 verse 54. So when the Centurion and those with Him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly saying, truly, this was the Son of God.  Every knee must bow. Every tongue is going to confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord of all. Now you and I can either do it willingly now by surrendering our heart and life to Him, or one day we're all going to bow in subjection to His Lordship. I choose to do it right now today.   When He appears, they will say, oh my God, and utter dread and fear, because they will realize how wrong they were. And if you're watching this right now and you are someone who has mistaken Jesus for someone other than the King and Creator of the universe, the Son of the Living God, my prayer is that you would begin to reconsider by the help of the Holy Spirit who you see Him to be. But nevertheless, Pastor Myra, He is the Son of God. That's right. That's right. That's right. And don't be discouraged about what you see on TV and how people are downplaying Jesus and making a mockery of believers. And don't be discouraged. Every knee is going to bow. Every tongue is going to confess. Now don't be angry with them. Pray for them. Love them. But it is so. Sometimes you can look around and you can hear. I cringe when I hear some people say some things on TV or whatever. But know that God is God. And He's going to show Himself. He's going to convince them that He is God. He said Himself. God said, I know of no other God. I'm the only God and there is no other. I don't know of any other. Every knee is going to bow. Just make sure your knee is bowed. Let us bow down to the sovereign God every day. Sovereign God who, sovereign being, He can do what He wants, when He wants, how He wants, with whom He wants, and He wants to do with you. Let God do with you every knee. Let it be that you bow down to the sovereign God even now and confess that He has charge of your life. Pastor Myers, you were saying that I was just thinking how many of us on a daily basis really, truly look to Him as God with a holy fear, with a reverential fear. Not a, oh my goodness, God's going to strike me dead. No.  He has. He's sovereign. He has all authority. And realizing that and saying, God, you are the God of the universe and you love me. You gave your son for me. You did that for me. Who am I? Thank you, God, because I know that if that's the case, then you love me that much, that you're going to take care of me. And I don't have to be concerned about the things in this world. I don't have to be concerned about things in this life. I know that one day, even though I see things happening in the government, even though I see things happening around the world, one day everyone who is blasphemed you, one day everyone who has come against the body of Christ, Christian believers, everyone who comes against you as you witness for the cause of Christ, they are going to recognize that Jesus is Lord. They are going to bow and they're going to confess that he is the only God of the universe. So don't be afraid. Don't feel like you have to shriek back whenever you're in conversation with somebody. Tell them about Jesus. This is the greatest time in the Christian's life to be able to share the gospel while people are looking at candy and what they can buy for their kids. You can say, do you understand what this is really about? And be a testimony to those that are surrounding you at Easter dinner, Resurrection Sunday dinner. Have that conversation with your family members who may not know Christ because one day, whether you say something or not to them, they're going to recognize that Jesus is Lord. And I think that all of us would rather them recognize it while they have an opportunity to say yes to the Lord than when it's too late. That's right. We're going to invite you to go over to the music set and lead us in a time of worship. Remember, if you need prayer, the number is there<PHONE_NUMBER>. Make sure you get your communion elements together because we're going to take communion real briefly. As Pastor Rebecca sings for us, Mercy said, No. It was just a child when I felt the Savior's leading. I was wrong to what I could not understand. And it was for the cause of Christ I have spent days believing that what He'd have me be is who I am. And as I've come to see the weaker side of me. We saw how Jesus gave up His resurrection Sunday, even death, and the grave couldn't hold Him. You know, Paul says in Corinthians, the last enemy, the last enemy that Satan had in his bag of tricks was death. And if death couldn't hold Him, if Jesus defeated death, the last enemy, He defeated any that Satan has. And there is great victory in Jesus. So many people have called for prayer. We're going to be closing our time together at the altar, just praying for miracles. As we celebrate the greatest miracle in all of history, Jesus Christ rising from the dead and the grave. Many have called back with answers to prayer. Gina called. Her 13-year-old daughter went missing. She called our prayer line for prayer. She said the very next day her girl was found and she is safe and sound. She is so, so grateful for that. Alice called to receive prayer. She had kidney stones. She was bleeding and she called for prayer. The stones broke up. She passed them and she now is healed. Carol called back for answer to prayer after receiving a job that she was believing for. And then a couple of, move your mountains ago.  Margaret called. She said that she was in terrific pain. The swelling left. The tooth, the gums were all healed. She woke up the next morning completely healed by the presence of the Lord. He is a miracle working God. His power has not changed nor will it ever. So those that have received their healing, their answers to prayer. It's not finished in that aspect, but Christ has conquered. He has finished everything that you need for your healing. So believe. He's going to do it for you. I know it. You know, one of those things that just God is a finder of lost things that this young lady that went missing, you know, it just reminds me of how God seeks and saves things that are lost. And maybe you're sitting there right now and you're watching this and you feel lost in life. You feel lost in all of the drama that's going on in the world around us. You feel maybe lost in depression or lost in guilt and unforgiveness. Maybe you feel lost in hopelessness or loneliness. I want to remind you that Jesus is the finder of lost things. And there was something as we get ready to take communion, a meal that Jesus instituted on the night that he was betrayed. That set this whole weekend off. One of the elements that Jesus fulfilled. He was a prophetic fulfillment. He was the Passover lamb. And one of the amazing things about that lamb and Pastor Gary mentioned three things that were qualifiers for that lamb. It had to be without spot or blemish. Jesus was without sin. It had to be a male. Jesus is a man. And it had to die.  And that became an instituted ceremony from that moment in Egypt all throughout the history of Israel. And one of the things that I love the most is people would bring the lamb for their household. The priests would take the lamb and they never inspected the person. They never inspected the sinner. They only ever inspected the lamb. And as we get ready to take communion, maybe you're feeling lost. Maybe you're feeling forgotten. Maybe you're feeling like God would never receive you. I want to remind you that when God looks at us, he doesn't look at our sin. He looks at the lamb. He sees the blood. He doesn't see the things that we've done. He sees the blood, but we have to apply the blood to our life and there's only one way to do it. And it's by putting our faith and hope and trust in Jesus and what he did almost 2,000 years ago on the cross. And if that you right now and you say, I'm lost, I feel the death angel knocking, but I want the blood of the lamb. I just want you to just say that right now.  I apply your act, Lord Jesus, to my life right now. I place your blood. I allow your blood to come and wash all of my sins. And I come to you today knowing that you're not looking at me with judgment, but you're looking at the lamb.  You're inspecting his spotlessness and not all of my guilt and my shame. And I submit and I surrender my life to you as not only my Savior, but as my King and as my Lord. And I ask you, Lord Jesus, to lead me in the ways of everlasting life. Lead me in the ways of truth. Lead me out of the things that put the spots on my life and into the things that make my life more perfect like your life is. I give my life to you and take your life in exchange. And I thank you for your sacrifice for me in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Well, if you prayed that prayer, just sense a peace coming over you right now. If you would like some information free without any obligation to help you in your new walk with the Lord, you could call the prayer partner and say, I just prayed with that man on TV. We'll be more than happy to send it to you. Well, we're going to take communion if you have your elements. Pastor Meyer, would you pray over them, please? Father, we thank you and we praise you for all the sacrifice, the sacrifice you made of your son, Jesus. Jesus, we thank you for being so willing to give yourself on our behalf, to be the substitution. So we receive this remembering what you did, remembering how your body was broken. Your body was broken down, was whipped.  So we thank you for what you've done and we give you glory as we remember and rejoice about it.  Just let healing virtue right now go through every part of your body. Organs be healed, blood be cleansed, pain, sickness leaves your life now. According to the word of the Lord, Pastor Rebecca, would you pray over the cup? Father, we can't thank you enough. Our words are inadequate to say thank you for the blood that you shed for our sins. And Father, we do. We just praise you, Lord, with our lives. We honor you and we thank you for what you did on Calvary for shedding your blood for each and every one of us so that we don't have to stand in guilt, in fear and in shame because you have cleansed us and set us free. Father, thank you. Thank you for your blood today in Jesus' name. Alright, take your cup and drink of it now and be washed and cleansed by the blood of the Lamb. There's power in the blood. Yes, there is. Power in the blood. The blood will never lose its power. Yes, yes. The blood was shed for you. Shed for you. Don't forget that. The Lord love you that much. There's somebody watching you're just about to give up hope, but this word that has come today, you have, you're debating whether or not to take it. Take it. Take it. Go on. Take it. Have hope in that word. Not in us, but in God and in his word. He will lift you up. He will lift you up. Well, Robert called from Mercer, Pennsylvania. Pray gave his heart to the Lord Jesus Christ. Yes. Robert, welcome to the family. There is a party going on in heaven today, brother. Yes, yes. He only inspects the Lamb. I mean, we got to grab that. That's good. We need that to remember that.  Like you said, Pastor Rebecca, to have this unjust fear of God. Oh, he's going to get me. He's going to, no, no, no, no. He inspects the Lamb and he remembers what Jesus did for you. He has to remember to always make a big deal of the blood of the Lamb.  Holy Ghost party, don't stop. We rejoice with you, my brother. Welcome to the family of God. That's right. Hey, if you are blessed by programs like Move Your Mountain, maybe the lineup of all of our in-house programs we do hope today, which is our flagship, many, many other sister to sister, and Origins, Hard Questions, Nashville Today, Dashing Dish, you know, Arlene's program that's been on for years and years, which is a favorite. Or maybe you enjoy our lineup of national programs, David Jeremiah, Pastor Jeffers, The 700 Club, Joyce Myers, Joseph Prince. You know, we all have a favorite. I know we do. Right now we're playing a Passover special with Dr. Larry Hock, who him and his wife have a program on our station. But we need your help. We need your prayers and your partnership so we can continue to bring these programs to you. We are celebrating in this month of April our 43rd anniversary. For 43 years this ministry has done nothing but bring good news, 24 hours a day and seven days a week. Let me give you our address. It's Cornerstone Television Network, One Signal Hill Drive, Wall, Pennsylvania, 15148-1499. We're going to thank you in advance for your gift. Thank you so much. Well, we're going to go back to Pastor Rebecca as we head over to the altar to pray with you as she sings for us forever. Oh, Pastor Rebecca, this is Victory Weekend. I love Resurrection Sunday. I know people call it Easter Sunday, but I call it Resurrection because that's what it's about to us. Yeah, and the victory we have. The victory he brought on the cross for us. That resurrection says that we can get up to. Because he lives, we will live also. Amen. Amen. And that's one of the things I love about it is that it's truly life. First, John 5 says, he who does not have the son has not life. Doesn't say that you're just dead because you might be breathing right now. But if you don't have Jesus, you have not life.  And that's why we celebrate. Jesus takes the old and makes it new. And I know he's doing it for you right now. Just lay hold of that promise and watch him do it. Let's get excited. Get excited about the Lord and all that he's accomplished for us. Well, so, so many of you have called for prayer. Many of you have written to us. We take all of your requests very, very seriously. We not only pray over them once, but again and again and again. That's why we leave them here on the altar. So join with us if you haven't had a chance to call or write. Remember, there's no distance in the Holy Spirit. So just join your faith with us. And would you begin for us, Pastor? Father, I thank you so much for who you are, God. We do rejoice in you. We are excited about you, about your love for us, about your redeeming power, about the fact that you are coming again. And Father, we're excited about the fact that we have testimony of what you have done in our lives. We've heard it already on the program here today, Lord, of testimonies of how you've delivered and set free, how you've brought the lost back home, Father. And we know that if those testimonies are true, God, as they are, Lord, your word stands firm, that you do not change. And Father, every person that is represented here, every request that is represented here on this altar, God, you are going to bring about healing, deliverance, Lord restoration, whatever is needed. And Father, I pray that as we are coming into this weekend of resurrection, God, that you would just let your resurrection power come alive, that they would begin to see that you are the God that heals sets free and delivers, Lord Jesus. Father, I pray for family members who may not know you as Lord and Savior that as a result of this weekend, as a result of our testifying to them about who you are, and how you want a relationship with them, God, that they would come to know you as Lord and Savior, break down every wall, break down every barrier, every hindrance from that happening, Father. And Lord, I pray that we receive testimony back here at the station on the miracle-saving power of Jesus Christ that has happened in families this week. Father, we love you, and we thank you for who you are and all that you are in Jesus' name. Yes. Thank you, Jesus. And Father, we thank you for each and every one who took that step of faith to call in, to write in. And even we pray now for that one who has been reluctant to call in because they feel like that there's one among too many. But let them know that you hear and answer prayer, every single prayer. We pray now over each one, and we pray now for those who are watching. Father, we're in it together. And we say thank you for what you're going to do in the lives of your people. We thank you. We praise you and give you glory in advance. Yes. And Lord, we just pray right now for those who have been long-suffering right now, Lord God. I pray for those who may be on the cusp of becoming weary and well-doing. Lord, I pray in Jesus' name that you would remind them that on good Friday, things looked like it was over. Things looked like it couldn't get any worse. Things looked like it was done. But you didn't say it was done. You said it is finished. And I pray right now in Jesus' name for those, Lord God, who have been waiting for answers to prayer, who have been waiting and it feels like a dark night of the soul, Lord God, that you would remind them that it might feel like it's Friday, but Sunday is coming. And Lord, I pray for resurrection power even now to be released through television sets, through mobile devices, Lord God, into prison cells, into hospitals, into nursing homes, into living rooms and dining rooms and homes all across the globe right now, Lord God, that they would receive swiftly, Lord God, what they have been waiting to see, that they would rejoice, Lord God, even as they did on that morning when they saw the Lord was risen, Lord God, let us keep that same spirit of praise in our hearts as we celebrate your resurrection in Jesus' name. Amen, amen. You know, shortly after the Lord's glorious resurrection, the common greeting between the Christians and the believers was not high. How you doing? They would say, he is risen, and the response was, he is risen indeed. So celebrate his glorious resurrection from death, from hell and the grave, and just walk in victory today. Cornerstone Television has believed in the power prayer sits in Synception 44 years ago. 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