Hulk, then he'd be here. Yeah, the Hulk fan club. We are the incognitos. What are we, the Averthid mintsia, Hivermectin? What are we, intelligentsia? Oh, yeah, intelligentsia. That's oh, intelligentsia. Hell, yeah. Yeah, it was nice of them to put on that quote from those members. Oh, oh, man. It was like I was going into a goddamn mirror. Oh, yeah, no, dude, I hated it so much because I just related to it. God, I was like, this is I have entered into a family space. And the wise words of Sienna Fuega and Assis, we often hate those who remind us of ourselves. Exactly. Matt, I just know I just want to call women females. But now now they've exposed that I think I'm not real to get. In a few months time, we won't be able to address them at all. Old bettas alone. You will not be able to. It's like in the olden days in kingdoms where you weren't allowed to touch someone of royal blood, right? You won't even be able to refer to a woman.  Well, this time I mean, it's fine without failing something. I'm kind of myself. You know, happy ghost floating around. Oh, yeah, that's right. We can be in the episode with me making weird noises. And of course, Fringy can book into this stream with him with his flimped noises. Fringy is not here at the moment. He's going to grab Shad because they're in Australia. He's going to run down the Shad store because, you know, it's Australia. I think they might even be like it might even just go to a different room in the house because Australia, I'm pretty sure is not a country, right? Street or a house. I think I think so. I think it's a country that is a street country. Yeah, yeah. That's how Rhode Island got its name because it was just a road. And then they built an island around it. The big reveal was Shad was doing like a late night stream and in the background of his camera, you could see this green guy walking past and it was like, wait a minute. Because wait, that's a bird. Yeah, that's a big green bird doing. The Fringy's back, where's Shad? Hey, look, all right. I'm tired. OK, I don't have all the answers. I don't want to answer. That's an odd way to answer that question. That's fair enough, though. That's fair. That's fair. Oh, what? What things do you talk about? Me, oh, five, ten minutes. You know what I'm going to mention is that new movie that's come out, Black Adam, anybody here looking to see Black Adam or has seen it? Adam of color. A little bit of it. What was it? It's African Adam. I don't care because I am a gait and I'm a maverick. I'm going to call him by it. Well, it's Teth Adam, actually. If you were a true fan, you'd know that. Blackadder. Well, I love Blackadder. Anyway, you said you watched a bit of it. What do you think what you saw? Me, something you know, OK, I was making sure that I just was being set up to fail. I was annoyed by the fact that the rock didn't have an accent.  He's totally just playing himself like he doesn't. Yeah, I don't really to me. He's because he's clearly tried to play some form of a character. I just he was not. He's if I were to compliment Black Adam, it wouldn't be because of him. No offense to the rock like you you were there. But yeah, I actually it was weird. When I came out of the cinema, I was like, hmm, I didn't hate that. Yeah, weird. Like in the beginning, it made me laugh. This kid was like, oh, I think it was him as a young kid or whatever. He's like, we don't have to be slaves, dad.  I was just like, well, so he's dead. But I think he was right behind your death warrant with your jewelry.  It's very strange. Oh, my God, don't spoil it for us. Sorry. Oh, my goodness. But this is a spoiler free zone. A lot of people are making fun of Black Adam for being camp and goofy. I think that's probably fair. I would have just called it cringe. There's lots of cringe in the film. I would have just called it cringe. The part particularly with a sort of a Mexican standoff sort of moment. That part was not only really bad for like special effects, but what are you doing? You'll know what I mean if you've seen it. But we might we might just cover it because I find it really interesting in terms of where's the DC you go in next and get the impression before she was out. I wish the answer to that was the garbage can. Just I hate it. I mean, yeah, it's terrible, but they're not trying to make money about it. You know, they're never going to stop trying to make money from it. I am fascinated that this is where we're at now, like the next era of the DC. And fun enough, I think that Pierce Brosnan as Dr. Fate was kind of cool, it was kind of fun. It was a long character that was interesting. So what am I talking about that, too? So I don't think I'd recommend the film if anyone's wondering about that. I don't know if I want to go that far.  The way he wrote it, his opening line was the film doesn't deserve a bad review because that would imply it was a movie instead of something else. Oh, man. So it sounded to him like it was just hollow, just completely pointless.  It kind of did feel like it should have come out in Phase 2 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, right? Whatever that may mean. You know what? Well, we'll try and get some people to see it so we can all talk about it because it's a weird one. It is a weird film. There's some humor in it as well, where I was just like pretty sure that's ripped from. You know what? Terminator 2. Yes, yeah, yeah, definitely Terminator 2. It's really hard to separate that out. Oh, and the kids, the kids acting. I've seen people complaining about it. He was awful. Yeah, I feel bad for pointing it out about child actors, but this one was noticeable as hell. I was like, when he did like as a part where he delivers like a big big old rousing speech near the end of the film. I was like, stop, stop talking. I beg you, please just say one word, just go like, we can do it. That's all you need to do is. Oh, anyway, we've got to be fair. I can't even waste time talking about anything else because we've got three whole episodes of She-Hulk and my God, the last one is dense. Watching these three episodes is the longest month I've spent in my entire life. Yeah. Well, She-Hulk episodes might be dense. But do you know what is not dense? What's that?  It's this thing you need to show for me. It's the what? It's this thing you need to show for me. Oh, right. I'm going to have a I'm going to have a video done, like maybe like tomorrow. I did the copyright check and everything and I was able to so like after EFAT, I'm going to be like like rendering it and finishing it. And if all goes well, it'll upload tomorrow. Can you believe that? Can you believe that shit? I don't know. That's insane. That's nuts. It'll be two and a half hours. What is this madness? What absolute madness, insanity. This is the rags plusy. He's not the dense, he's floofy. Very nice to rub your face against it that you won't be heard. It is the rags 2.0 plush from makeshift. There are 15 days left and after that it is gone forever. So please click the link. Where is the link? I don't have I don't have this kind of power. Is it in? Oh, it's in the top of the thing. This is why you pay the big bucks. But I would really appreciate it if everyone gave a look at it. It looks great. It's a little bit different than the first gen one. He's got his little bottle of make the movies better. And he's got a really great expression. He's all loungy. He turns out great. And you will see him pose next to the rags 1.0 plush in a video that may or may not be releasing tomorrow. Probably will. But who knows? I don't want to promise things, but it's cool to see him next to each other. And of course, they're again, appreciate anyone who gets them. I would really, really appreciate that. Yeah, rags are dog bites.  We're doing it, boys. Long boy. It's happening. What's happening? We're making that one of friends, making friends, making friends. I would say that's true. Yeah, so we will remind you about this wonderful little plushie here and there. You've got some time left, but, you know, when it starts to close, like, oh, every second that goes is a second that you will not be able to acquire again later in the future is a very limited offer. It will be terrifying.  God, well, I got mine. That is good. You're not one of those. Likewise, I'm doing. Yeah, I always come out when I have no money. Well, if you can make if you have 15 days to make some amount of money. So if you can do that, then this could be yours. And you could put it next to a modern free. I hope someday if I start scheduling streams so I can listen from the beginning, I try very hard to start them at 7 p.m. BST Saturday every single week. Just rewind, nigga. You start them like every week at one p.m. Central. Yeah, it's always the same. We've been doing that for, I think, literal years, literally years. I think you're right. Yeah, I just don't put them up before going live. That's the one thing I don't do, which I don't know if I should do. I've never really known if I should be doing that. Anyway, listen, I don't want to delay a wonderful guest for me to talk about a show. They very much enjoy I feel bad. I'm like, oh, gosh, this is good, man. So I'm wonderful to have you lock back. I can't say that this is going to be easy. This is and it's going to be progressively harder to because the first episode is cringe. The second one is like, oh, and then the third one is just there's no words. It was a nightmare. And so I was not expecting it. I suppose we should get started and I'll I'll I'll set it up by saying the last time we covered she-hulk precious precious chat, you'll know that we talked about a wedding and it was just this guy who was perfect in every way, shape and form, talent, our main character, how perfect she is. And very satisfying to watch.  Remember all that? That was another episode where it was just like, what are we doing? We've got this episode, which is possibly the most filler episode of the whole season. They really waste time. It begins with a downwards viewing angle of a toilet, which is cinematic language for this show is a toilet. That's kind of a compromise to you. That's true. A toilet is it serves a very important societal function. That is very true. There's a utility to a toilet that I appreciate. Yeah, plus it's too nice of a toilet.  Oh, no. No, I think it was a Hitchcock movie when they first in the first time in cinema. Yeah, they showed a flushing toilet, which is right. I think that's actually right. Since they kind of ruined. That's right. I think it was the first flushing toilet. That's what we call degeneracy. OK, speaking of degeneracy, I'm glad you brought that up because I think and I I've heard this, I don't know if it's true. If Fred and Wilma Flintstone were the first couple to be shown in bed together on TV, my God, really? I think so. That is what I've heard. So it first off, it is hot because if it's drawn, that makes it even hotter as opposed to the real thing, of course. But that's what I've heard. So I don't know if that's real, but maybe someone could you tell me I'm wrong or that I'm right or that I'm just handsome and pleasant to be around. But we can carry on with our toilet show. Well, yeah, and it's just good to know these facts. I think it keeps going, you know. So what else can you say?  It's like, yeah, you shower and she puts on music.   This is this is responsible dating. You only enter a woman's abode or domicile after the day or yes, after the third date, it is. It's a that is the Disney approved amount of time that you need. And am I right?  There was no there wasn't even like a kiss until that third date either. Right. Yeah.  Well, Disney goes zero to 60 really quick. No kissing or retouching straight.  I think the question about this is like, we waste so much time and then we skip through an entire relationship. It's like, why didn't you have him being built up through the season so that it actually matters when he steals her blood without her knowledge, by the way, which I thought was hilarious. How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you puncture the skin to wake her up? Didn't bother. Oh, yeah, without waking her up. I don't know, because look, I know lots of ways to steal women's blood without, you know, that's why we all have our. We all have our favorite methods, of course. Me and a friend of mine had a theory that she he collected her blood going down on her when she had her period because because it doesn't make any it doesn't make any sense.  I assume that she Hulk men straight. Well, I guess it's only Jen in this would be green. We do have a vampire later in the episode. So, thematically, it does line up. Well, our fat. Now, you make everybody make everybody fall. OK, we've got to stop. I'm going to garlic you. Yeah. And so how do you feel about the blood question? I'm not talking about that. He's not a vampire. Very right. Very right. Well, is this does bring into question if Jen in her human form, is she invulnerable like she Hulk is essentially? Well, so remember in the last episode, she got punched by a Titania super duper strong and flying and she was fine. Oh, OK, so it's Bruce is really got hurt. Remember Bruce got hurt in the car crash. She started bleeding. Yeah, but they just ignored the fact that effectively a sledgehammer swinging into her face would would destroy the skull of a normal human. Excuse you. This is a fun lawyer show. So that's not what happens in fun lawyer shows. Well, neither of those two things are true. So why would you lie to me like that? So her green form, her green giant form with a large feet, that's just aesthetic purely. There's no actual utility to her being large and green. I think you're right. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure she's an element, right? I'm pretty sure she still has this dread well, because they imply she doesn't, right? In the first episode, it's like you got a she-hulk up and help those people and it's like, couldn't she just help them normally? Well, maybe she keeps her invulnerability, but doesn't have her strength. Maybe. I don't know. Which is confusing. Yeah, it's confusing. You have to break us, yeah. Oh, you guys made a big mistake in looking for consistency. That's not real. That's not real. I'm sorry. So off the end of that montage, she sends me a message saying that was fun. I can't stop smiling. And then he doesn't reply and she's getting incredibly upset about that. And I was just I remember when I first watched this, I was like, you're not serious that this is the plot line.   Yeah, like I will. Guys can be very, very clingy after they sleep with someone. They could like they then they're the one texting Craig. Well, yeah, and if it was that I don't do just as pissed, why is this? Why?  You took those cheeks. He's up to no good. OK, he is up to no good. That is. Yeah, that's one of those red flags, red because of blood. That's how that works. Red because that's absolutely.   I was just like, oh, the show is such a joke. Like she's been awful. She's been actively awful as a lawyer, but she's winning the female lawyer award. I mean, this is a damning indictment of all female lawyers in this universe. She rises to the top. She was better than the rest. How bad they must be. The only thing she seems to have done is win one parole hearing. Everything else is done by other lawyers. Yeah, and that one parole hearing was absolutely disaster. Like it was really bad. They literally portaled in their witness who then became a criminal and ran away. And then she represented him the next week, day or whatever, in a court of law. Some people do that. Of course, he kept like talking about sending what's his name to like a whole dimension, the the source or a guy. Oh, yeah, either that or just trap him in the mirror dimension is chill. Yeah, because I guess that's like Wong's priorities. It's not like Wong is very dutiful, like it actually very much by the book.  We just do whatever we want with characters, despite their pre-established traits. Yeah, well, you see, this is a different format. It's a different genre. It's a different creator.  It'd be so critical. That's such a weird argument, isn't it? It's a different genre. It's like it's the same continuity. Yeah, I guess they didn't realize that serious characters exist in comedies as well. Yeah, exactly. They're in this universe. They actually provide a really good jumping off point. You guys remember Idris Elba in The Office by Siri?  Are you? And then she's like, what?  They can't even say it to my face because they know they'd get hulks bashed. All right. I find that utterly bizarre, like it's just a scene that I think this might be like one of the most insecure shows that I've ever seen like in my life. I don't know what would be in the. Yeah, I don't know what would compete with it. The show is reeking of insecurity and this need to self validate. There are so many scenes in the show that are like written for Twitter. And like just think about like that scene. They couldn't say it to me a fictional character because I would beat them up. Like, what is that? They would never insult me because my reaction to that would to be used just violence, you know what I mean? Like it's like when people on Twitter would be like, ah, God, I'm just like, she's made up like what? Well, not to mention, she's already packaged in the justification.  They should probably say it online then. Is he a toxic masculinity? A little bit. She's the one who's displaying the toxic masculinity of anything. That's what she said. It's hypocritical. Oh, OK. All right, I got you. Crush, kill, destroy whenever I am criticized, which yeah. Well, I say that obviously the people we're talking about in this universe are people who make a site where they're just like, she's a she's a female. That's evil. We got to stop it. All right, because you get the big bombardment of all that in episode nine. Yeah, we'll get to so much. We'll get there. It's like, dude, the places we're going to go chat. Oh, my God, you're not ready. Adam is the abysses, the depths to which we. Dr. Seuss is rolling over in his grave. And so, yeah, we got another like montage of her just being like, man, you won't call me back when it's like, yeah, yeah. OK, just keep and then she gets a call. Emil Blonsky's inhibitor is malfunctioned and they can't check with him because they've allowed him to be without any internet connection like off the grid, essentially. So if ever so, they can tell whether the inhibitor is working or not, but they can't contact him in any way, shape, or form, because that wasn't stipulated at all, that he has to be in a place where he can be contacted within a certain amount of time. That is absurd. He is abomination. Yeah. And so they have to send someone to check if he's abomination. It made a ton of sense to me that that they would have an inhibitor that presumably works off of a cell signal with no cellular service. I mean, that that was perfectly reasonable.  And because it's this government, it's this fictional government that has a giant facility for housing super villains, superheroes that when when spoiler alert, when they show up to arrest She-Hulk or whatever, they've got like pulse rifles that will presumably be a danger in some way to right. Otherwise indestructible things like abomination can be shackled by technology, but they don't have they don't have a little bit of money to like, you know, I don't even have anything. I don't even have drones. They, for anyone who's wondering, they call Jen because he needs muscle, basically. And it's like, well, but he's the government. And he says, yeah, but there's no resources to spare. No, for abomination. Come on, I assume you could move around a few years. It's half a day's work, too.  It's a ticker across, basically. And some, yeah, somehow the government is just now this guy. It's like that's all they got.  But whatever, fine, this is the fate of it. It's only going to get worse for abomination. OK, guys, I'm sorry in every way you can. So I think it's absurd that they would have set him up in such a way that he doesn't he's not allowed any Wi-Fi. You'd think, especially in this day and age for in universe, like Nick was saying, they could get Wi-Fi anywhere, not just like in general, but also set it up anywhere they want. I would assume. Satellite, yeah, Internet. So I don't I don't know. It's hard to believe, especially because what even year is this now in universe? Like 2024 or five, I think. And they've combed up with like stock technology, Wakandan technology.  Like the suit is not something that's achievable now. There's always been future. Allegedly, they don't know what they're hiding from us. No, that attitude. It's weird, too, because is this not like a government mission now that she's she decides something? She's like, go in as as a muscle to possibly prevent a supervillain from annihilating people. You know, it's just so casually done. It's just like, well, who cares? And this guy is going to bring her along because I guess it's just how things work, whatever. Well, I mean, she she should be that like she should be there as his attorney, although it shouldn't have been the government calling her as his attorney to let her know it should have been him calling her saying, oh, government's coming to my house. I need my attorney present that. I mean, that's how that should have gone. But I mean, her being there isn't isn't that weird.  It's like the government.   Yeah, don't worry, fam. I got you. Like, what are we talking about?  I hate it. Well, hey, you're only going to we get all the bad stuff out of the way, right? It gets better in the. Oh, yeah. All the last episode. It's only uphill from here. Woohoo. I'm excited. You're excited. He arrives at Emil Blonsky's place. Do some abomination wrangling, I guess.  That's something, right? Yeah, yeah, that's something. It was a joke. Fakely self aware. Yes, turns out Emil has not turned into quote unquote, I guess I should say apparently hasn't turned into the abomination. It's just a glitch. And again, I wanted to think of abomination and then I wanted to think of Emil Blonsky being the character who is thanks to channels like Jay Longbones and others that I'm even remembering this because like some of this stuff is just so long ago that I need to rewatch it to actually understand, but he's not a nice person. You might remember the incredible Hulk. He's he's a bit of a meanie. Yeah, you could say that. You know, ego driven. He's not very hungry. He breaks a lot of havoc in in New York. Happily killed. Every time they stay. It's a fun joke is that he has changed. Ah, right. He's changed from somebody who his pure motive was that he wanted to have a fight and to prove how strong he was and he was willing to cause that much damage for absolutely no cause. Like now look at him. He's reformed. He's good now. I'm sure it's not a great. And it would. I mean, given that he even broke out of prison, broke out of prison to go to a fight club. And but we we pinned all that along. Like that was a long run away and he was never apprehended. Still fleeing justice. If you see this man, please die of a local law enforcement. So yeah, the man who would he shoots dogs just for making noise. He'll like beat up anybody who's just getting in his way. That's just like, wow, that's evil. That's how you know he's super evil.  So he got shocked. He doesn't seem like the sort to have an electric fence to keep his chickens in. Nor a favorite chicken, but it doesn't sound very. The thing about Tim Roth's performance is like he comes off. There's some parts where he comes up very sarcastic.   Abomination.  Clearly by the finale, we figured out that Tim Roth's performance was just him not not caring. But it's like just weird performance beats like that. I'm just like, I think you should do something with this.  We'll get you into that the next Hulk movie or something. Mm hmm. I always wonder about everybody's more excited for than ever. Yeah. Well, I'm very excited for the next Hulk movie after the new Hulk character has been introduced. Oh, yeah, that's that's quite a tease, isn't it? Hulk fans are joining the MCU. We'll show you what he looks like. Nobody was happy. Nobody was happy about it. No, not a single person. So then Jen's about to leave and other guys already left. There's a reason why they make him leave in a hurry and not her.  So she's forced to stay here now. And I remember when I found that I was like, oh, God, we're spending the whole episode here, aren't we? No, I wouldn't learn more about this incredible place.   Yeah, that would progress the plot or whatever. Why doesn't a boy like me? So I only wanted with my blood. He sees this guy called Manbol and he just goes, I'm Manbol. I'm a weird lab experiment, don't ask. And I had a thought when he said that. I was like, you know, we've kind of hit the point now where like they used to be a bit of a, let's call it a decent focus, a vested interest in continuity to some degree, only to let like bits and pieces through. Sometimes big pieces.   But you'd even get, and this is really crazy, sometimes you'd get films that try to repair it. Sometimes they try to put things back together where other films pull them apart and you're like, OK, cool. I would call the world cohesive to some degree, at least at some point. I think everybody would pick a different time, but that's totally fine. It is impossible to describe it that way now. And it kind of seems to me that it starts out as like a few cuts and bruises. Let's call it to to the continuity of the world until like some creators will just make some big holes and some others will make really big ones. And then some of us will build on the big holes and everything just gets like break broken open. It's like it's like a Gengar tower being assembled with parts missing. The further off it goes. Yeah, like thinking of the super soldier stuff, time skips, people's ignorance of time skips, like always treated. And then like events like the blip and obviously all the horrendous moral stuff that loads of people are doing that has huge implications on countries and that nobody ever cares about is just like no connections to anybody in any way, any more or contact with other powers and stuff. And there's no more contrary of like how things are going with. I was about how funny is this, like with law in the law show.  The show thinks it makes a couple of attempts at exploring interesting questions. But yeah, no. Who knows what's going on with like freedom and safety in the world in terms of or what the average person thinks about anything like what is the average person feel really and truly about the nature of superheroes, not just as like a meme about how they're orphans or something. Like what do they actually believe about the superheroes and the role they play in this world? Yeah, and then put the multiverse on top of all that. And it's just like, yeah, everything's blown apart and shredded in the hands. All right, sorry. So no wonder we're like, we can just look at some random guy called Man Bull. And he just says, I'm Man Bull. I'm here now. Don't ask questions because that in phase two would have been like, what? But nowadays, that's like, yeah, that's chill. You kidding me? We blown over the universe, the multiverse. This guy's chill. Who cares if it's a bad bull? You can just get superheroes willy-nilly. It's by the way, it's worth showing people who might have missed it in the last coverage, the incredible visual effects work, like incredible, the incredible scene with the fight. Well, they have no time and no resources. They just did not. Well, yeah, as evidence, I think we pointed this out as well. But look at the look at his leg, the the hair prosthetic. So gross. No, that's not that we have a we're going to have the nip this in the bud right now. That's not a prosthetic. They just shaved everything else, all the rest of his hair, except for that. Well, so that's totally natural. Same thing on his arm. They just shaved all of his hair except for that spot. That's why it looks weird. I have a feeling they dug this out of some drain after several months. That's what I can. You just slapped it on with some Elmer's glue. Oh, hey, Elmer's. Because it has the ball icon. Oh, like Elmer's. But I shall. Don't you agree? Oh, that looks bad. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, hold on. Just wait. Oh, God, the momentum is wrong. It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't make it's just not like it's not right. It's like they did choreography in front of a screen and sped it up. You see the frame where he flips? Yeah. Yeah, look at that.  It's a motion blur. So whatever happened is either they did it wrong on set, like or something just went wrong or they didn't have time. It's like you have two days to finish this shot or something.  Yeah, it's just totally rubbery. You see him like this. He's clear at a position and then bull bulls have rubbery legs. It's a well known is a well known fact because the thing is is he stops and he starts rolling like he's not the momentum isn't carrying through. It changes, changes directions. Like, yeah, he changes. He like it's it's just all wrong. Like it's not right. It's it's not right. Well, she looks awkward as well, but I think his badness is kind of overshadowed. Well, I mean, but I guess it's the thing is like the the visual effects like she hope it's so remarkably inconsistent. Like, I don't know what it is. Sometimes it's fine. And then other times it's really like awkward and noticeable. And I mean, it's I mean, we know the like it gets addressed kind of an episode died, but I guess yeah, there's plenty to be said. Yeah, I don't know. So yeah, it's they've destroyed a car now and so she's going to have to hang out here while it gets fixed. And then in a rare moment, I guess I I relate to Jen the most around about here when he goes, the other guy is like, I'm not a Matador, I know who I am. I'm a swashbuckler. And the other one's like, you talk about it like it's a job, but it's not. And then the other I think Tim Roth is like, Manball sees everyone who tries to stab him for being a front to nature in not Matador man. And there are many who want to stab him like. This is the weirdest like pseudo homo narrative. I've never seen a homo like these guys. These guys kind of like each other a lot, right? That was a payoff or something. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit like codependent or something. Yeah, codependent, but he still doesn't want to be stabbed by the swarthy, possibly Latino man. So you're for their bad times. They think it's hilarious that we might think of him as a Matador when he's not a Matador, that's like the joke, like, OK.  Well, like, oh, yeah, definitely.  It could be allegory, you never know, you know.  And I'm kind of like, yeah, let me just deal with that.  I don't care. Pay for a car.  So I guess he specifically did run into that car or throw him onto that car. Yeah. It's just sorry. I was just thinking like, oh, I'm I'm manballed. I was a lab experiment. Don't ask me questions. It's like, yeah, you know what? In this world, it really makes sense to repeal the Sokovia chords, doesn't it? Yeah, I wanted to create human stakes in a lab. Oh, dude, it's become clear that the world is an absolute chaos. The horrifying magicians can sue people for what they said.  It's just like, yeah, right. And also, there are experiments that are creating crossbreeds between man and animal that are that then end up in like retreats for therapy.  Do you want to watch the longest animal? I think it's probably kind of blue wild, right? Like, oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure blue wild is the longest. Would it be relative to I guess maybe it's a tape. Would it be? Oh, yeah, tape. Now, Google says blue whale. Oh, yeah, but I was going to say like relative to their, you know. Oh, so they're not like too thin. What you mean to say, Moller, is you don't want an animal that is necessarily large. You want an animal that is long. So you would say relative to like the size of their head. I think so. I'm not sure how you do it, right? The size of their something would probably be an anaconda then, right? Yeah, that's what I think you should go with an anaconda because they are very long and they're not like they're not thin, but they're very strong. So they're kind of chill and they're kind of chunky boys. I'll be a Moller. Some people just drive, I'll be chill. So, like, I do expect to see you expect to see a meme. Moller, the extreme that is Moller, but an anaconda. Moller, I'm not saying I expect you to do it. I just expect it to happen like I expect it. And I'm sure it'll be very amusing.  Just like, look at me, I'm a Moller condor sitting here in the Amazon. They're in the Amazon, right? I think so, yeah. They're in what? Thanks, which is basically being in there for like 95 percent of their lives. They're in movies with John Boyd. Oh, yeah, there was an anaconda. Well, no, what's it? Oh, my God, what's the name? Oh, no, I forgot. Jennifer Lopez. Yeah, that's right, like. But she was one of those, right? Yeah, Jennifer Lopez was in there, I think. Yeah, and I would swallow. I would swallow Jennifer Lopez whole. But if I was if I was an anaconda, swallow her whole. Yeah, you know, if you do one, you do the other by necessity or I suppose, I suppose, right? Well, yeah, I don't go with yes. Anacondas are big. Yeah, I'm just looking at. Yeah, I thought they were like 30 meters, 30, 40 meters. They are. Yeah, that's a and they're thick. What does it mean when they put reticulated before like Python or whatever? Like, reticulating spleens. I don't know. What does it mean, reticulated? I have no idea.  You should know when you have to defend anacondas. Ticulation is a legal term. So according to the Wikipedia site, yes, reticulated Python is a Python species native to South and Southeast Asia. It's the world's longest snake and is among the three heaviest. So you'd be a chonker. You'd be a real chunky boy, which is just fine if you're that size.  No, it's big, right? It's going to weigh a lot. Like a Python like this, you're like, yeah, that thing a fat. It's just as big and it's kind of terrifying. Yeah, I believe it says a reticulated Python is one of the few snakes that actually praise on humans. Neat. Well, I don't think that's neat, but. I think it's neat that nature is allowed to do what it wants. I'm not restricting it. I'm just like talking. But just like talking to that nature on its course. It was it was added to the Lacey Act, which prohibits trade in wildlife fish and plants in the United States that have been illegally taken, possessed, transported or sold. Well, because you can get like a pet snake. I presume you can't get a reticulated Python, though. That sounds like. That sounds like. People, snakes, yeah, it's like they're they're they're very chill. That's the fact about certain. They like to they don't like to move and work around. Well, it's kind of mean with a lot of animals, right?  So fierce. It's like 90 percent of its time is just spent sitting around doing nothing. Yeah, because it's so fierce, like it's so fierce that it just sits around like one role and the jungle knows they know that's right. The lion is the king of the jungle, because that's where I accept. He's the king of the savannah because they live in the savannah. Well, it's all here. Yeah, I. Propaganda. Well, I've seen, by the way, several ads as a chat that are like, oh, well, it relates to how their muscles come together. And I was like, OK, and then someone else said it's the pattern of the skin. It's actually how the bones are connected. I was just like, OK, I. But you have to be wrong.  Let us know. Is that what it's called? A snakeologist? What's the Latin name for snake? It could probably be that all of us, right? I think serpents is the. That's makes a lot of sense, actually. But they'd be herpetologists, right? I'm not an expert on the terminology. It says herpetologists is someone who specializes in the study of reptiles and amphibians. Hmm, frogs. Frogs and snakes from Latin from because they all have herpes. Nice. That's pretty cool. We learn a lot on this. We really do. So, yeah, we're now going to spend the episodes getting Jen some signal because she's still trying to see if her who guy has sent a message back. That's that's where we're at. Spotline guys just making sure you're up to date. This is such an excellent commentary on a woman. God, just so good. It's like so empowering that her entire life has been taken over by a guy. She slept with one time after three dates and one brief meeting at a at a wedding that like now she's like, oh, I've let you into my world. This is so empowering, a wedding she only went to show off herself and you have a meal, yes, trying to push her to find meaning in life that goes beyond her phone slash this guy. This is like. Oh, and the phone is just the choices. Yeah, the show's kind of pooping on him for it. Oh, it definitely does. Even though he says some stuff that I think is absolutely correct. And the show definitely makes a joke of him. Whatever, they do that a lot. So they asked to just push the car away and yeah, she's God, do you remember this where they're like, help me push it?  My name is Manbull, not mechanical bull. Oh, God, that's terrible.  They fixed it, though, because when he says it, one of the characters is like, you're working on that for a while, huh? And I'm just like, the writers were working on that one for a while. Yes. Yeah, like, oh, my God, it's like they're actually sitting there working on it for a while. It's like, fuck, like, oh, well, what if we just happen to acknowledge that? You know this happened when I was like, he's a bull.  There's something there. Maybe like if he combed it with a car, it'd be like mechanic. Can't make the car is fixing. Oh, I'm almost there. And then they start writing notes like, oh, this is going to be so good that they say it and the rest of the team are like, haha. Oh, it's moments like this. I am reminded that the writer of this started off working on Nickelodeon shows. Oh, yeah. Nickelodeon. Maybe what did they do with all that slime? I don't know. Bring in a form of glue. I'm pretty sure we talked about that. I'm not I imagine that they're like adjacent, but they're not quite the same thing that like slime or maybe we'll make maybe glue is like the overarching category and slime is like a type of glue. If you think about it, maybe I don't know. I'm not saying I'm just curious where all the goo went with the Nickelodeon stuff back in the 90s. They were being very liberal with their new dispensation. I just wondering where that I think it's the slime, isn't it? The accountant who's trying to do it's like, you got to cut back on the budget for the slime, right? It's the slime budget. His numbers. This is not cheap. We have to go through a portal to like this crazy dimension to get it. Like it's not. You got to go to your spring and on kids. He's got to account for all of the goo. And so he has to hunt it down, like where did it all go? Where did it all hide? Who's been hiding it? And there's also like goo merchants and goo dealers. Yeah, like you got like a scruffy character in the world, like the janitor who's secretly collecting some of it to trade to make money on the side. It's like really with the grief. Oh, wait, wait, wait, so in the 90s, if you tried to get illegal goo, you'd have to go to the GAC market. You guys remember GAC?  GAC is great. So anyway, Rags has a plushie out. Yeah.  So I cheat people. We have incredibly low stakes and easy to do drama.  So it's like, you know, I think the highest that the stakes have been in the show was when she helped threw man bull up in the air. Yeah, unless she jumps at some point. So it's weird that she can't get any cell reception when we've just established she has to do something here for a couple of hours because the tow truck isn't going to arrive until the afternoon or later that day. And now I was just like, how did you contact the tow people? I wonder because it wasn't through the internet. They have no Wi-Fi. You must have called them by a telegram. Yeah, it was mostly it puts out its own signal or something. Well, the car broke and just said they'll be on the way. Is that what we're supposed to? I mean, I know this is maybe a landline, but. Well, then you have to use the landline and what's the point of everything? Like they talked about it and they never they never allude to that, too. But even if he had a landline, that's a solution right there.  Why doesn't she call a friend? She could even call the the the guy back, the one who just left. One thing I want to point out is when she loses the signal, like she's trying to get another one and she's walking around.  Motherfucker, we get it.  There's no reception. Look, that that two feet will make a difference from space. She could probably like just jump her way back home, right? Yes. What's the level of it? Yeah. Yeah, she could run back home. Who is that chick? Who is that chick in the boys? Hera Matilda? What was her name? She could jump really far. Oh, Maeve. We know Maeve. Maeve is like Maeve. You could just swing. He was fly. You know that you can. Yeah, we know she can do this because one Hulk can do it. Two, she trained with Hulk on doing this, on jumping. She can do it better, almost certainly. Oh, yeah. And you just go to aim for like the grass.  I was sitting there. I was so sorry.  Just jump, just jump. Yeah, you know, it would have been funny if she just jumped up in the air a few times and was like, OK, I can see the city from here. I'm going to go this way in this direction. Yeah. Use the landline. Call the government guy who's just with you, say like, motherfucker, they broke my car, come back, pick me up, and then the tow truck people will get your car to the wherever it's going to go, then you can go meet them later if she truly didn't want to be here. But I think seems to me just wants to be here. She'll just find an excuse to hang out. Because these are a wonderful set of characters for about to meet. And my God, do we spend a while in this room? You really do. This is the episode of She-Hulk and, you know, generally, I really want to drink. Yes, it's the bottle episode. Well, I guess in that sense, it's yeah, it's it's a it's a different kind of bottle episode. It's it's a very bottle. You should buy it. It does have a bottle. That's true. And it can be yours. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just want to say, by the way, the guy who ran off immediately, they have a throwaway line for like, wait, he's already gone. It's like, yeah, he he's really scared of abomination. And it's like, OK, you understand, like they had to get him out of there because if he was here as they both left and then a car got destroyed, he would have just offered her a ride, obviously, like that. And that would have solved the whole thing. A man offering a woman a ride in this show. Hmm. Only if he gets in the passenger seat and let's her drive. Her drive. This is this is my car now. It was one line from from Blonski, it was a little sus to me, just in a culty way. You know, no, it's nothing else, just a little bit of a culty way where he's like talking about the different things they offer here. At one point she's she points to somewhere being like, is that what you do? Well, then he says that's for platinum members who get exclusive private spiritual constant consultation, like in a place with no Wi-Fi where you like control everything, you have to pay extra and you'll get exclusive. I think Nixxiom is on my brain. I watched the documentary about it.  It's price. I'm 17 year old girl in there. So. Oh, it'll just be anybody who's rich, I guess.  I thought that might be it, too. Because they're trying to set that up. I think that, yeah, because I'm sitting there, I'm like, OK, so this is going to be like part of the villain story, right? Like these guys are all going to actually be bad guys. There's going to be this cover thing. Yeah, where it's no, I mean, they didn't deliver on that. So don't worry, guys. There was no there was no actual subtext going on. It was just completely vapid. But so but I got the impression they were trying to convey that like that was the platinum level, these this this group of people. They just host. They might be right, actually. Intelligentsia, though, yeah. Oh, God, well, I will have to break all that. Yeah, we'll break all of it down, because it's difficult to explain. But yeah, he. There was a theory the second he came onto the show, we were like, so he's lying, obviously he's lying. But you'll find out the truth of whether or not he's lying soon enough. They soon enough could be ours from now, but soon enough. That's all right. You'll find out the truth of whether or not he's lying. That's a an interesting little little phrase phrase there. Carry on. So yeah, they don't carry Wi-Fi as a policy, so she can only find it in one place and it happens to be where they don't know why. Don't know why you would have the no service thing popping up over her head. It's like, I get it was to help you understand my thing. I think I think it's excellent. They did it in rings of power to help you understand the name of the Southlands had changed, very useful, very loved. I think it's inspired like labels, like people are going to start labeling things is so useful before we go on. And before we forget, can I just say that I despise the music in this show? Can I allow you to say that? I just knew. All right, all right, then. Well, the part where I got my. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm trying to I'm trying to do a thing. I really hate the music in this show. All right, it's been said for any carry on. OK, I was just going to say that there was a episode I was when I was getting particularly upset about the music related to one particular character. What I what I guess was his like little leitmotif in this show, I did not like it compared to what you. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That was that was like that was a song. I didn't like it. No, I know it was I was just adding to that. I figured that was the one you did, but I Running in all circles in the corner while I hum to myself the Indiana Jones name when wait It can't really be a spoiler because most people know about it and it's it is what it is There's nothing else to it. So anyway, but at the end of black bad, but then at the end of black Adam Henry Cavill does show up as Superman and he's got little little curl and he's got the Outfit original colors the red and blue and John Williams theme is mixed in as well. And I was legit like A good Superman because he's such a good actor and he just you look at him and you're like Superman And you're just already moist and everything and you want to give him a chance to play that character I don't want I don't want this night or to have Claimed him for that role and ruined it. What's funny is I also would say like is that key jangling and I was like, oh, yeah I'm just saying that, you know, I hope he gets I hope he gets something Good for you. Henry become Superman You can jangle the keys as long as you open the door with them, you know, like yeah I mean because there's no reason why you shouldn't have shown up in that movie to be honest with you Like with the universe and how it works Uh someone if if you're curious someone showed me a picture of forest and in my server someone Showed man bull from the comic Uh-huh.  He's like he's an actual like Minotaur basically So this is he looks like he was from Narnia or something So this is the the source versus the Netflix adaptation beam is there Every time Why can't he actually like be a bull? Oh, well, they didn't have the money.   Listen, I'm gonna you know, give this I The one the one laugh that this show got out of me the one genuine laugh that the show was able to He's out of my cold dead concrete doggie heart, right?  It was the one which is one laugh in a whole season of a comedy show.  Yes um Yeah, and so like you you almost reset because this is apparently the halfway point in the episode and I realize yeah Because that's just the rest the episode of this now And you have Tim Roth sitting down with all these insane Like oh cosplayers that are created by a writing team who doesn't know what stories are and then he just says last session We explored Alejandro's struggles with identity. It's like Why am I here?  It was Wonderful Like Ned Flanders do you remember him? He was crying. Yeah. Yeah I Bologna skin That's right Remember when not Alice alternate dimension Alice or whatever sprayed it with like pepper spray that she was like That woman was fun it was fun Whereas I mean, it's it's kind of like the nature of things right a bad comedy is usually Particularly painful whereas like a bad a bad drama can end up being very entertaining Hmm.  This isn't gonna go anywhere interesting.  She just kind of tries to kill him. Yeah. Oh She's role model.  You are absolutely super villains This is the thing about it I was like, oh, of course if I mean four to one with a guy who's innocent is like super villain behavior Well, it doesn't matter and one to one with anybody who was innocent attacking I'm pushing a person with a magical crowbar.  Yeah, but I'm not with Stan And it's weird.  Yeah, I thought it was really we had choice to dialogue because obviously they knew she was she Hulk when they attacked her she knows she she Hulk like it reminds me the whole the the Brie Lawson Captain Marvel thing.  She would have been terrified I was like, no, we both know that she's a god like there's nothing that's really indestructible Can tank a hit from the power stone. Yeah, so you don't have to be able to pull that card like this is gonna work Don wasn't gonna do anything other than make her feel loved. Don't want her to smile.  Why did you do it? But they don't even talk about but no, sorry, they get to talking about her and her boyfriend soon That's what the like yeah, because this show is not really you had a plot that you chose to start and For some reason you're not interested in actually like trying to resolve it. I don't get it Yeah Yeah, to give you an idea It's like she's criticized would be on a phone and then she's like I met a guy It was going great and they stopped talking to me. Oh, what'd you say?  We could have an episode season It would be fine. You didn't have to have this episode This season has like three episodes at most. Yeah The rest of it is just What the heck is going on? Why am I here? I Want to sleep? Sleep would be preferable. I fell asleep actually during like at least two times I would struggle in to take notes It was just the awakened chair It was a consistent theme of this entire show. It is just Nothing it is so hollow. It is so boring and I mean we'll get there eventually but This the only smart part of the show was when the show admitted to itself that all of these storylines are trash They don't make sense. They're disparate. They're worthless and it's all bad. Yeah, and there's no cohesive Theme there's no cohesive narrative.   That's like that's a really good text to get That mean that that's good. I don't get this whole. Oh, no, that's a bad thing to say I legit don't get it. This is a I guess this is a part of the world that I just don't I don't get this new music modern humor Oh Well because she's a woman she can't be clingy to a man that's disgusting that's handmade and shit Yeah, so then she starts to explain I met him when I was Jen and he liked Jen You know like she Hulk is that friend you have in high school is just everyone likes him or and You'd think life would be so much easier if he became that person and I turn into it whenever I want And everyone gives me attention when I do my boss my colleagues my Boyfriends and stuff, but it feels like eating would they like me if I didn't have all of this and I was like You already you already took advantage of that a few episodes ago, so as if as if he doesn't know the answer to that question, you know You got it confirmed by a lot of people In fact, yeah, cuz that guy wasn't it literally like Off a day she even got to know that guy the one that wasn't interested in Jen, but she was interested Yeah from the date to the apartment then she has to leave the apartment almost immediately to go save from the hell dimension demon bats and then when she comes back it's pound time like it was It was dinner and then 20 minutes Direct confirmation from him twice that he was absolutely not interested in Jen In fact, he considered it all a huge surprise. So it's it's interesting that she's now talking about her like I think some people would be as interested to be if not for she Hulk.  Do you remember what they said? Well, and also there was that court case you had where she brought all those people into basically affirm that Yeah, like like without a shadow of a doubt Yeah, no, I think it's just funny that she's playing coy about it It's like we've had it confirmed legally at this point. I think we should acknowledge it. Yeah Also, did you because that was there's one particular line in her big like in passion speech that are particularly bugged me But I can't remember exactly what I think it was when she it was something along the lines of you know Like and that sucks because like Jen is great. So like, oh Does she actually say Jen is great? Yeah You got it you got to find the exact one you got to find it because I feel like there's a lot to unpack there We have evolved as writers now It's no longer other characters telling our our main character. How amazing she is now We have completely removed all outside influences and we need only the main character to tell you know how amazing she it's um It's man, it's like kind of it's like a huge pet peeve of mine What oh boy, all right, it was just so narcissistic Oh, yeah, no, she's she is the greatest narcissist I've ever come across in and that will be confirmed by the finale episode hardcore Absolutely Captain Marvel doesn't have yeah, I'm close to the narcissism on here Not even close. I'm not this eclipse every other character possible I don't think anyone's gonna be able to Defeat she Hulk in that department after the last episode But there is the line and that sucks for Jen because Jen is great It is like I don't know what it is, but I find it like particularly frustrating I've generally found it annoying when like stories It feels like almost the writers come in to talk about how great their own characters are But I mean this one is like probably the most overt one ever Like I don't Just like that sucks for Jen because Jen is great It's like that character that you wrote for her to say that about herself the character that you wrote And of course given all of the scenes that we've had prior to this point You know No one cares what this she Hulk's like, oh, that's just Yeah, well don't worry we're coming to the end of this episode. I just feel so bad for this character I know yeah me too.     You believe this group values the whole of you Jen Like this point that you start to realize that this is this whole thing is yeah like this sort of group therapy session, but It's kind of like a weird group therapy session because it almost feels like is that something like more meta going on here? Like in terms of what this represents What the people like she hopefully don't like No, no, no No, but just more like the I don't know like it's it's just like this weird sort of it feels like kind of a self insert like therapy session Like inserted into the show You know what I mean? What I just feel like One of the writers Ghosted or something like what are you trying to say? Who hurt you because it feels so much like a self-insert and someone is just like Just trying to Shit on somebody else with this. I don't know. It's just it feels like a self-insert I guess the thing is this I can believe that now since there have been like quotes where the writers have explicitly stated that That's been partially their objective at times, right? It's like insert people in real life who they don't like into the show Yeah So Then again having a breakthrough and realizing that she doesn't have to be she Hulk for everyone to like her Whatever That encourages porcupine to take off his mask and he smells really bad Yay, that's the joke.  That's just like why did you make it so that he's smelly? It was like, okay That is hilarious. It was supposed to be like a very supportive group therapy session Yeah, but that's the joke isn't it? It's like, uh-huh. They won't support him right now or thoroughly because he smells That's not nice of them Therapy groups Well, yeah, he because they said he needs to not wear it all the time and he needs to Right. Oh, I right. I figured it might be like some innate thing like I don't know or something relating to porcupines Yeah He was the skunkinator, right or the smell-o man or You know the odorator something like that, right? So you're like, oh, okay. Yeah, he smells. He smells pretty bad Oh, um, they tell her we all tell her to delete his number and then she does it. It's a breakthrough And then she goes into the the yurt thing to yurt I don't know what the blood is and that works out too. It's great. It's like a sauna and then They say like we love you Jan and we love she Hulk and We are not a cult You really like it's gonna take as much longer to get through the next two episodes, trust me This one is such an empty episode. It's like, okay What should this actually mean to Jen really these people that you don't know like a saying that you're great to try and make you feel better Exactly moment like that's a breakthrough in any way whatsoever Yeah, and so before she leaves Blonsky says Everyone we meet no matter how much they hurt you is a lesson learned Right and before we get to a response It's obviously him trying to say that you put a lot on what Josh thinks and feels of you when you not even known him that long and Your value as your two almost identities has been like broken apart and determined by what other people see and think as opposed to what you think What have you learned from how much power someone like a Josh has over you with all this that you need to work on some stuff for yourself That's what I get from it trying to be generous At least a little bit. Yeah, and so he says that as a summary of this experience and her responses despite those platitudes I'm actually happy I stuck around No, what is it feels like it's actually kind of some of the stuff he says is legitimately good advice Yeah, it's not a platitude Yeah, exactly like it's like an actual piece of advice The whole point is and the whole point of your therapy session was derived value from yourself Not from like the opinions of other people. He's right Why would you say that? Why is she always like dismissing and shitting on everything that everybody else has to say and it's weird because a Self-fucking centered as she is being told that message should make her go. Yeah That's right. Exactly.  There's only one voice It's just me. It's just Jen within She-Hulk and then it's immediately broken Like that's immediately not true throughout the show and then here it's like no Jen is just Jen is the better thing is going on in this little therapy session or Jen is great or Jen is acceptable And then by the end of the show, there's no reconciliation of this over This underlying story arc where Jen is supposed to be reconciling these two Aspects of herself or is it just the same person? They can't figure it out They just dropped the narrative But they they like have this this way point here in the middle of the season where it's like, no There actually is still this looming conflict between her. She's never learned She just Arrogantly went away from Bruce even though it was it was like a yay woman power moment And they don't even realize it like they don't realize that that's the contradiction that they've created is that she was supposed to be Better because she's a woman and because women are actually just uniform.  They would it's like they wrote themselves Which how did you do that whatever they was so simple When you think about how low variables the show is yeah very low compared to everything else like compared to the other shows particularly low stakes Anyway, they show us the clip of gosh Stealing here. He's copying all of his phone data, but the weird thing is again, I don't understand how he got it Blood but whatever he got it I don't even know anymore like what to make of whether that even happened, but I guess we got to get to that I think my theory was more plausible was the most plausible one biologically was potentially so and that's it that's episode seven and You see that that already took us just over an hour. So clearly not much in it. Okay it was awful to watch and Then and then I knew as well going into the next one. I was like so this next one. That's the daredevil one, right? That's where we're at. Well He's been been he hasn't shown up yet. So it's time. It's time indeed. They've already baited him, okay? and They I think they would have pushed his episode as far down as possible just so they can keep people in I think there's no reason to assume anything else.  I say this if it's not happening being a daredevil show It's like Doreen.  I think This is No way, it's gonna be like the other three seasons. That's just not gonna be well And especially if they don't have a one-take hallway fight, they well, oh they did a great job of that in this episode So yeah, I was on Twitter people like, oh, yeah, it was great and that made me really sad It wasn't even Imagine having the balls to try to replicate that scene knowing Daniel you can't write It's pretty funny because we talked about it on the last the last I can't remember we talked about it But for the the hallway fight in season one I believe they only had like two days to prep for it and and then they shot it in like half a day Like it was it was a very um tight production like for for Daredevil like the turnaround I think was a new episode every like 13 days was shot and Look at what they accomplished with less money and less time Compared to oh, I thought you were talking about she only had two days Well who knows right I presumed that they had more time and more money in fact, they had to have had more money, but yeah Do you know how they do the previously on this one? you have Bruce saying if you're not gonna be a superhero then what are you gonna do and then it cuts to him I'm gonna shake my ass Like the show is like ain't we fun? I'm like, oh my god that really does sum up the show doesn't it?  I'm gonna be a fucking bum All right So Yeah, and also the the previously is is described as I think she does this more than once in the season But she doesn't hear she goes previously on my show Well, she did it in episode before right she's like I know this My show this is not even the last time that we're gonna hear that Like there's more The really odd thing about this is again for me It's it's just this constant return to irony of a bunch of women writing a quote-unquote pro woman show like no This is this is what women are type thing is the exploration of this character And and yet the lack of self-awareness to have what are you going to do other than your?  I'm gonna twerk in an office.  I guess with Hulk.  It's like why do you hate yourself so much?  It's awful And look for Wi-Fi and I was gonna say it's not my fault Nick that we've had no law to speak of really at all yet in this But we're getting there we're gonna get some Because yeah, that's the other thing.   So it's like that's the start and he's now with she-hulk explaining the situation in order to get like a Compensation he's gonna sue the people who made the boots and that just so happens to be the same guy who made she-hulk's outfits the Jacob something right This is a really weird way to steal TVs Yeah, it is like parking way out in front and just not having masks and just carrying them out One by one to the van outside like that just seems like loudly talking about the TV. You just fucking stole Yeah, I feel like you wouldn't do it this way anecdotally pole workman and Tree arborists seem to cite nine meters as the cutoff for fatality in a fall Now if you look at the screen Hi, he is and then these are two men by here so we can safely assume that's around about two meters, which means two four six eight ten twelve About 30 meters of a fall. He's about to do He looks like he is pretty darn high. He's dead He is suffering. He is suffering death or serious injuries Like if he if he lived but had serious injuries, I wouldn't have a problem, but he seems to have Serious means bedward and for like the rest of his life not Bones are broken for sure many. Yeah, well at least broken bones, right? Unless I'll figure out fire to So Yeah, I just thought that was all really funny that it's just like we just started episode. Can you please just calm down? Yeah She says this is a this seems to be a pretty clear case of manufacturers defect negligence and breach of warranty Stuff that she wouldn't even know she's not read any of it yet So this is the thing I don't know whether to bring it up now or once we're in the court case, but Can we even approach this? This is a vigilante who is suing a black market sort of like Edna mode type character because his outfit wasn't working during his vigilantism When they are designed to it's like is this any of this legal are you guys? Is this like a drug dealer in the drug like guy who's just like you didn't give me the full amount of police Can you help me out? It's like I Don't know guys. I think maybe you should sort this between yourselves. I Yeah, but we'll never know how do you if it works But luckily I know everyone's saying it you're all thinking it the accords might be able to come into this in some way And you know what they do they clear everything up. It'll be great. Yeah. All right.  Would you try and throw it out the window? I guess for this How wouldn't Luke Jacobson be like he would have been Like like captured by now probably the government would have had many things to say to him He's making people keep portions of Iron Man suit for free Well, not for free as in for no there's no armor and tools to carry out vigilante Yeah, they just need money and then they can do like I just don't I don't think so But yeah person of interest at the very least instead of just being able to do all this I don't want to say she says all of this is chill before finding out who the manufacturer even is Like I was gonna say, you know, she hasn't read the warranties like she doesn't even know what anything about One thing one thing that is is right. So there's two types of warranty, right? There's a warranty like that you buy some sort of warranty that comes with a product But there's just a general warranty of an operable and and serviceable product that you you when you buy a book You expect it to have pages that are printed on right like so that That's the warranty that that that is a sort of default unspoken Doesn't have to be written kind of right if you if you buy a bottle of coke Then you're going to open it up and drink something that tastes somewhere close to what you expect for coca-cola If you buy a bottle of coke and and drink gasoline then they've breached their warranty to provide you a coke So that that's the only minor thing that the shell got kind of correct Is that that there is a general warranty of marketability to to a product and and so I guess By saying this this is a breach of warranty Would would potentially be true, but actually I don't think that that's the issue here at all It's not a breach of warranty. They the jet boots function like the suit does what it's supposed to do And we ultimately purpose Right, we we we ultimately get down to the this this thing which was he used the wrong fuel And the dumb thing is the show resolves this in the wrong way You can't just You can't just provide instructions You have to provide warnings of what would happen if the thing goes wrong if it's a foreseeable event So the the show actually gets the product liability wrong and this guy would have a case Assuming you could bring a case against a black market manufacturer for a potentially illegal product, but the idea that he So if the warranty said You cannot use jet fuel and that's all that they said then that's an issue But if it said do not use jet fuel because it causes terrible horrible burns And the suit is not rated for that heat and you'll hurt yourself Then that would put him in the clear He didn't so that if I remember right in the show, he didn't say don't use jet fuel He said use this type of fuel. Yeah, right. It's an even more vague instructions Like use only this type use only unleaded gas. Well, okay, go ahead Well, so here's here's the thing though. Did jennifer walters get to see like the actual like written instructions No, like did she get any documentation or paperwork at all? No, no, they they glossed that Why would you know? Because she's a bad lawyer Yeah, all of this would be in so that they do it. They do a motion to dismiss for lack of uh Failure basically for a failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted And and you would have that motion hearing But that motion hearing would typically come after some sort of discovery like you would have to turn over those documents You would have to see the instructions Um, you would have to see if there was some warranty or or warning She would have reviewed all of that stuff. But no, they're just in court like the next day Again, I'm doing the thing where like they get blindsided in court like they keep getting blindsided That's the only drama they can come up with.  So if he says I told you what you know to only use this type of gasoline It's imminently foreseeable that someone would put a different fuel source into an engine to try and get better performance That is that is like a tail as old as engines like well if it runs on ethanol Maybe it'll run on ethanol plus nitrogen or something like you just I mean all the warnings that are on gas station um Little pumps that that you have the you know either One two three four pumps probably you have your normal gas you're Unleaded your premium your ethanol and they all they're all full of warnings And they're all full of things and there's the diesel thing too People only get sued over gas they figure this out you've got to put labels on all that shit It's it's why warning labels are on on products and the warning sections of instruction manuals are so ridiculous and overly written Is because once someone has an issue that issue is then foreseeable to the manufacturer And if there's foreseeability they have a duty to warn This one is just generally foreseeable that if you have some sort of engine that takes fuel Someone will put a different type of combustible material in it to provide higher performance If the and that that just isn't a mystery to anybody Um, it's been happening forever So every manufacturer of an engine would say only use this and if there was a known issue like it will It will explode or you know, you'll you'll have an issue that could cause danger They they have to put it on there and it's it drives me crazy that they just automatically won this lawsuit when they actually would have probably lost Um, which is funny because there's some other things I think they fucked up in it But um, we will get there because we got to get a little bit more of the setup which is that She Hulk says she can't be doing this one because a conflict of interest the opposing client is her tailor and she likes her clothing There's obviously she says I would be ethically compromised His response is well, you did it when it was much more personal before As if that in any way addresses the problem at all like, uh, you know That she doesn't think that she can do this impartially like she can't act in the best interest of her client Which is like that's your job. It's the important part of like resolving a conflict. Yeah. Well, you did it before Alternative not taking on this person and giving them to someone else And then um, and then she's like, yeah, but okay, but I don't want to and then he says well Go speak to him and make it so that we don't have to have the case at all And that's that's all we ever hear about the conflict of interest done Why I think it's because the show believes later on. Well, I don't know what the show thinks actually in terms of the conflict And whether it's been resolved or sorted Um, well, and that's the other thing this this episode is breakneck It is absolutely insane We just jump from jump jump jump to all the significant scenes because now we're with Luke Jacobson with she-hulk trying to explain the situation And the writers had a challenge. We need A very apologetic and helpful she-hulk to approach Luke Jacobson and we need the the conversation to end with them hating each other So that's that's kind of difficult to do. How do we do it? so Uh, she says someone's basically like someone someone's complaining about your work But nothing has been filed yet. So legally you're in some trouble here But uh, you know, we're okay for now. We can we can solve this And his response is my work is impeccable Like, okay. So she says yeah, your stuff is great. Trust me. I I do not want like To have to do this and I know that and then he says, how can I trust you when you stab me in the back? And it's immediately like This is such a jilted conversation. It's so weird like like neither character understands what's It's just so bizarre like you can't just hand Oh, and so yeah, and she says well, there's no lawsuit yet Um, you just need to provide some level of responsibility for my client's injuries And he just says, uh, you're not getting anything from me ever again and destroys the the thing that he's working on for her And then she says well, I paid for that and then he says well, you shouldn't have betrayed me What is happening? That's probably illegal. She's come to him with like A warning ahead of time and a way to solve this earlier rather than having to go to court and he's like you've backstabbed me Also, I guess I'm gonna steal money from you. Yeah that too. Why not? And then he's like, you're blocked blacklisted and reported And I was I was just like, I guess we just got to get him in court.  Yeah Um, so yeah, I don't know.  This if anything. Yeah, she doesn't Show him pictures. She doesn't Hand him I guess anything. Does he is he does he get any documents from her? Because imagine if she had learned from this point that he had actually used it improperly because he says my work is impeccable What if she said well it exploded And then he said well wait what happened? Like did he use the right fuel and the whole thing changes like the conversation had played out a little more like it should have normally Yeah, yeah, there's I don't think there is a document in this show No It was just pages and pages and pages and pages of documentation He had an iPad once that had uh four witness names on it and she crossed them out When they were done so that's no questions or anything. No no like I mean like a document Not to dwell in the past, but like that that time when they were resolving all of mr. Immortals Settlements, it's like, okay, so you have you have differing Settlements with different conditions for different relationships with nine different people And she solved it with one page of a legal pad And there it's like the amount of paperwork involved in that and also the release from liabilities The non-disclosure, you know outside of these limited persons like all of the stuff that would have to happen To make that actually and again coming from a firm that is we're talking This is the premium law firm in the in the country in the world or whatever Like the amount of paperwork that would be involved in all of this stuff would be mountainous And there's not a single piece Yeah, but i'll be boring even having them on screen would be boring seeing them on a table would be boring We can't do that People who like this show can't read. What's the point? That's true. No response. No argument back on that because this is the there you go nailed it.  There'll be some guys like yeah, they're right I don't even think the writers like this show. I think they hated it They're forced to do yeah, is this something that they feel proud of making do they Right in their work when they were actually making this do they look at this and go man We did something really good here. I think that last episode shows it um so begins the trial and It's awkward because it just begins with luke jigsaw has no one representing him and then they do this thing of like You're gonna represent yourself.  I'm so confused.  I'm like, I okay fine. That is like also winning best lawyer best people lawyer ever like okay Go on well isn't I don't know of course.  When you get in the courtroom and they walk in There are there are some weird ways in which you can get close to that But usually no No, the the normal scope of things would be you would have a very good idea of who you're going to be against Going against because they'd be filing their representations, right? Like uh, I'm I'm telling the court that I'm coming before it uh But you know, you could you could have it where where people show up and it's like A surprise lawyer because they filed at the last minute right before showing up What whatever it is they got hired that day or they've been working in the background Um, but there's usually no purpose to any of that. There's no there is no The thing that legal drama writers who don't know about law don't ever get is that there's no Surprise in court. There isn't this big drama There's no like new evidence at the last second None of that stuff happens because it doesn't benefit the actual proceeding Because the second some big surprise comes along all you say is uh, your honor We we need a little bit of time to deal with this. Can we adjourn today? Can I have seven days? I need to file a written motion to respond to this can I have some time like you're And the court's going to say yes, of course because they have something else to do The court always has something to do. They're not dependent on your case getting done So it's like until you get to an actual trial Everything is flexible and malleable. There's no grounds or room for surprise And by the time you're going to trial everything is known All of the evidence has been seen by both parties outside of extremely limited incidents And uh, and they've developed not only have they developed theories on how each side is going to use the evidence They've had big arguments over what evidence will and will not be allowed into the trial leading up to it And all of that is skipped here to try and make it more of a more dramatic But it ends up just making it corny and dumb And I think um You pile it's it's like they they don't understand that like a court case like these proceedings There is like a procedure that is incredibly important that is like followed because there's like there's there's an objective like with a case to try and Run it in a way that is fair that's going to lead to Essentially like correct outcomes.  Like I don't understand even all you had to do Just get a few hours For each episode with a single professional, right? They couldn't do that or I don't know. Maybe they did but I just don't think they cared. I was gonna say even how I went to a goal them don't care But I just god. Yeah, just just one guy didn't I be like, hey, is this all right? And he can be like, no They've easily gotten some consultants because like like some of the best shows have had consultants about You know for the topic that they're discussing like this this one show I used to watch it was about Plastic surgery and they had a plastic surgeon not only consulting on like the surgeries, but like they were in the cast Acting and then they would they would consult over how the dummies like the surgery dummies should look how the actors Move their hands when they're doing surgery everything and Because of that authenticity the show was more interesting to watch But I guess, you know marvel just doesn't doesn't care about those things anymore The saddest realization is that none of the writers Were desirable enough to have gotten into a relationship and gotten divorced before this happens because they would know about paperwork Well, is it like a meme in fuzz like they keep talking about how One of the main characters is very obsessed with like cops doing awesome and fun things action packed like explosions beating bad guys And then Simon pegs whole thing is like you have no idea how much paperwork there is like that's cops that's not even law like this Shit tubs of red tape the shit tubs of approving and putting in for things and keeping record of everything and Just the parts that they don't want you to know about but like to the point where you run a whole law show There's just like billy any paper to be seen like all right You do you uh reams and reams and reams and time Reading through everything sifting through everything I mean this product's liability thing that they did would have been huge first of all It would have been a mountain of medical bills because the the one thing we can't figure out is like what what injury did he sustain? Did they even say like a third degree burns to his legs? Third degree burns on his legs like the guy's like walking. I guess he was in was he in a wheelchair?  Yeah, if you don't have the medical records, you're not going to get compensatory damages because you The compensatory damages you have the thing. Yeah, you say yeah Where you know like Lionel huts or whatever type of lawyer in a comedy show will be like, let's put a um, you know A neck brace on you. Let's you got to start walking with a limp. You got to Like for civil cases and stuff to just walk like you you really really hurt They're doing that I think But you also have to get medical bills like you have to get those bills to prove your damages Like the the the whole like the limp thing is usually for an insurance claim like oh You get you get some cd doctors say oh, yeah, here you go and now you can turn this over to your insurance And then you better you better not look Uh, you better not be out lift like doing deadlifts or whatever with your hurt back Because then they'll cancel the chiropractic care that you said you needed for the rest of your life but um But in this one again getting into that courtroom and on that motion to dismiss Like I guess they should have a motion to dismiss if there's no damage Like if they don't have any medical records if they don't have a history Of uh the examination the surgery is required for third degree burns I don't know if people know this, but you don't just heal from third degree burns. That's what makes them third degree Seriously, yeah, you tend to need Severe help with those um So you'd have tons of documentation and then you'd have to have expert testimony about the uh About the actual like lasting trauma that he would have suffered and believe me I would think falling from like 16 or 17 meters out of the sky on to pavement would leave serious serious trauma Uh that he would need therapy for and this is the stuff they should have laid out like okay So you got your psych yeah Psychiatrist report you got your bills all lined up like bring a big stack of stuff to the table This is what we're going to hit you with on damages like put that in the show because The if you want to have any legal drama at all People watch legal drama all the time. Just give us the reasons to like you have an air of believability about it No, any fun Having fun. No Speaking of good. Yeah, that's not even the first thing.  I was gonna move on Hmm nothing Too late. You already started and I'm gonna force it out of you I mean, what what about Jen's dating life then? Why are we gonna do about that? We need to cover it the most interesting part of the show. I still think it would I would have been more interested if it was um Maybe just the one dude that she gets to know of the the show and then he betrays the fuck out of her And that he faked being interested in uh in gen and the Just just yeah instead of being one of you know, and you know what you don't even need to make him like Make him really normal and he's just really nice to her and then it turns out he works for intelligence here And he's like, yeah, I'm sorry, but I mean and maybe even do the thing where he kind of likes it before he has to betray Yeah, that josh guy had a potential to do that, but There was just a montage of him and they just got rid of him afterwards Yeah, it was just so poorly done. It was really weird that he didn't he didn't show up again It's really really odd to that.  That's that's the whole payoff. It's like what was the rest of the season for One of my favorite things is that remember we watched the first episode and The way she turns into a hulk. I remember I said I wonder if that spaceship is gonna be brought up again and well Kind of So much for that Yeah, no, well there's something else as well that uh, I can't wait to talk about because Let's just say at one point it was said that she's obviously going to realize what she said to bruce was wrong And there's going to be a reconciliation and understanding there. We're running out of time show I hope we're going to get it within these last two episodes. I'm sure we will Running out of time though You see because that's that same cope and I feel bad You know a sense for a lot of people who are like don't worry if this episode wasn't so great They're gonna it's going to recontextualize it as we go on. It's like no I don't know. I feel like some shows earn that sort of confidence That they're gonna do something with the things that they've set up that this show like Pretty early on in confidence. It's not very empowering. Mm-hmm. What? That's yeah, I suppose so Yeah, yeah, so daredevil's here. Uh, mr. Matt He's here Yeah Every scene what feels like a soap opera sort of Like reveal for him the camera's zooming in on the doors and then the music's really like cheesy and he's just like I am here It's like yeah, I'm here Like you didn't say that enthusiastically. He just says I'm here Yeah, I love him for that Yeah, like it was kind I just want him to escape. I don't want him to have to be here. It's just this constant sense of dread with every scene It's like, what are you gonna do to him leave me? Oh boy, do we get up to a really good start He wants to before we address the overall case We want to address a portion of it being that uh, she helped us requested the client list for loop jacosons Work in order to contact them all and ask if they've experienced any injuries So, uh, oh, sorry.  It's like, yeah his job What's up with that? Oh, well, that's literally I think I think she hates competency.  He's just representing his client. You yeah Yeah She would do if she was actually a good lawyer.  It's like you just doing his job like calm down Yeah, he says, um He wants to ask the motion to compel the production of the defendant's client list be rejected as it's irrelevant She says it's relevant for the other injuries. He says his record is spotless Which is like really weird to make us a claim when that's what she wants to find out Whether or not the record is spotless and he's like it just is trust me and it's like, okay This is another part that they got completely wrong Of course that client list would be disclosed would be disclosed Of course it would it may be marked attorney eyes only So the the kid uh, the cheese representing may not get to see Nobody else not open to the public Right, this happens all the time when there's a business secret to protect But well, maybe we should generally before you go on we have to give the content because they do They give a little bit on this but then they get to the big reason so Uh, he says it's an invasion of privacy.   Absolutely. They did So yeah, they've they've confused them with what they were in the comics like the alternative superhero registration thing in the comics As far as I understand it. Yeah, that's that's the idea is that everybody's the comics is um You basically are going to sign up as like a member of shield like you got to give you got to give them your name You got to give them a bunch of information then you operate underneath shield Uh, the accords are obviously different And yeah, just an absolute simple version is just you're operating as a hero you give up what your name is You you that that in the comics and that causes this a split down the Middle and uh, isn't one of the biggest like moments of all of that spider-man being revealed Um, uh, he he reveals himself to say like this is right like i'm gonna Throw my hat in this arena, but then shit goes bad and then he changes his mind Yeah, um because of course like a lot of comics write the big thing with the secret identity thing is You know like the consequences for them and their their loved ones So like that's what's more relevant in the comic in the movie adaptation It wasn't gonna work quite as well uh to do it that way They clearly changed it because they're trying to find a way to better split The avengers into two teams and so what it is in the movies Is of those who are known and operate very publicly and even with the assistance of the government Uh, they now need to go once they're approved or they need to wait Until whatever they like like their orders may be from a Unified council that will be created by the the uh The ua yeah a win like group and the way that it's sold in the film is just that some things gotta give We had to do something.   Um, I think there's loads of discussion to be had about the sycovy records I think they're really interesting But the main thrust of them is that superheroes shouldn't just be allowed to be team america Uh, that's the the world police just do whatever they want wherever that can't stand There has to be something that happens And so they try to implement it and then cap is like no fucking way any government should be the one that decides What superheroes are doing with their power when it relates to saving people's lives. That's fucked up And then iron man is like if we don't at least somewhat agree with them on this Then we're gonna be hunted down and put in prison Um, and we can't save people's lives then so You would rather compromise and then uh operate within that limit while cap is like absolutely not because that's not principled We have to just absolutely and of course the result is iron man works under the thumb of the government for the next few years We don't really see but cap is a vigilante and he runs the uh, I guess the underground avengers Are you sacred avengers? I suppose you want to we deserved to get that movie, but we didn't yes, we did Um, and of course in infinity war then it's the it's those avengers They put like a beard on falcon you get like different hair color for black widow. It's very different great um But now the sycoga records have apparently been repealed because they've only ever gotten in the way Which correct me if i'm wrong, but they were referenced in one division as being active, weren't they? Uh, I think they were but I mean it's it's like you pointed out the problem So this is this is worth expanding on if You take them seriously as an element in in the world of the story that you're trying to tell the sycobia records present a lot of opportunities Uh, narratively like at like for a wide variety of different characters in terms of different power levels or like different stakes of the story Like in the hands of a writer who recognizes the opportunity that exists in what you could call a restriction in a sense There's like a lot. There's a lot of material to be pulled from it, but Uh, in the hand of a less competent writer The accords would be seen as uh something that impedes the ability for you to do basically whatever you want It was inevitable It was only a matter of time and like when you think about phase four and how like absolutely Ridiculously high stakes so many of these stories have been without any consideration for like the implications of that It was a matter of time And it was only a matter of time until it was like they don't exist anymore. They're done. They're gone And and it you know, it's it's worth considering The accords were made in response to the events that had led up to civil war Which you know, there was some pretty high stakes things there like with ultron and and whatnot Um, but think about like everything that's happened after that you had the snap like you had that The event just decided to bring people back. That was a choice Exactly on their own without consulting anybody or working out any plans in terms of that You've had everything that happened in in one division doctor strange the falcon went to soldier stuff Like he had all of that happen as well Um, it's like there's a there was a celestial just poking out of earth Yep, like from this super human group that's existed for a long time that went completely under the radar Um, what what other fun?  Uh, wanda. Yeah falcon and bucky on the mission without any authorization and all that stuff Yeah, uh, doctor strange for the eye monster battle Sophistic autistic sent me this little list here. Um wizards are a thing and no one cares.  Um Uh, kate bishop blew up a building in hawkeye Thor gets his own country and can make an army like he did with the kids in Thor 4 Yeah, and so like the the world that exists now in the mcu is Leagues more chaotic Than the world that existed when in civil war it seemed that the world needed to respond to what was happening Oh Yeah, the kaiju fight Like it's it it is It is ridiculous. They said before the show came out. We're gonna address the accords. This was it This was it. They don't exist. They said they've been repealed in one line and near the end of the season Daredevil says They've been repealed Moving on what should have happened was just always building on what uh, civil war it's set you get pushed back amendment Uh, someone wanted me to mention is like uh, eyeman suggested immediately that there would be amendments They would change as much as they could to make it better and easier But also the fact that eyeman was always when I said working under the government what I meant I didn't mean to say that uh, he was working according to whatever they wanted I meant under he would never go against them publicly But he breaks immediately from what they want But that's that's eyeman's whole thing. He's like, yeah, sure thumbs up government But if ever they tried to stop him from doing anything he felt he should do he would just do it anyway Which to him is better. It's like I don't have to be hunted by the government Yeah, but cap is like the note. I'm gonna be honest. There's no you're not controlling me And you can understand why he has that principle. Exactly. Um, I love it was really good I don't you know, I've I've been critical of the movies that come before them But both age of ultron iron man 3 and Uh winter soldier, I think all of them are really important for making civil war as strong as it is Um, they they all benefit The biggest lie of the show is that there's some Kevin green lighting everything or just controlling or there's anyone in control of this And it's just managing all the decisions because It's not yeah, there's no captain to this ship of writers Everyone's just sort of doing their own thing. They're tugging on this sail They're lowering this gangplank enough. No one's no one's where it's like they're they're not working on the same project Yeah, the amount of just control that these writers were given over the world of mcu is just Mind boggling. I cannot late. I cannot comprehend it. Just how much They how much power they were they were given.   For example, it's like nothing. He's yeah, that could be part of how does yeah Not the idea daredevil You know dealing with the accords that could be like in a tv show Well, something that could be really great is like imagine if what happens is that we get to see like the nature of how the accords trickle down So like the accords are like a un thing and then there'd be like federal jurisdiction and state jurisdiction And maybe it's like the police that daredevil encounters will often just like through Basically protect him from the bureaucracy because they find him like beneficial to them And imagine if you explore that's an element and then things go right and then it fucks up It's like no we've got to come down on you now Like you cross the line and you screw it up I think it was clear as I can daredevil is 100% vigilante Then they introduced this thing where they're like people like iron man who operate with assistance from the government They may now have to sign this so that they can't just do whatever they want Otherwise, they'll be put in jail and if you read between the lines become a vigilante at that point Daredevil's like oh, I already am so Well and like This is not shooting on daredevil because I like him or whatever, but daredevil's superpower is Distilled down to concepts like he has no fear He's a blind guy who can see but basically just some heightened sensory perception and and and no fear regard for his own personal safety, right? Like daredevil isn't Using a suit that fires plasma cannons out of it or can fly and take down an airplane That's why I think you'd be able to get away with people not looking into him too much For a while, which I could have taken advantage of but they didn't So the accords wouldn't ever met like even assuming the accords were relevant and even applied to vigilantes Daredevil would just be he'd just be like a norm He comes across as a normal guy who's just highly skilled Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying like he probably wouldn't even register on the on the main people that go like when you have someone like a A Thor it's like holy fuck Can call thunder and lightning down from the heavens to destroy Cities, yeah I can hear so well that I can see it's like, oh, how damn I'll take the I'll take the thunder, please You know, there's something to be said about Venture bros and how they kind of try and Have their little rules and groups of evil and power levels and arts there's I don't know much of the details about it. I've only seen you know a certain amount at show But you see stuff like that and it's like man like the parodies of these things are doing better to try and explain it Then the real thing is Yeah, yeah, it's making heroes up They're uniformly bad at explaining this stuff now At least here but in the hand waving away of the accords, but real quick on that client list thing There's just one more legal aspect of it If gen was a competent attorney at all she would say yes Or if there's the kovir accords or the the secret identities of of these particular clients mattered So yes, actually as she hulk, I run the superhero division at glk or whatever We clearly understand the necessity of discretion and we'd be certainly willing to take the client list for discovery purposes And have it mark the turnies Turnies eyes only we know all about privacy the necessity of it We specialize in these people were the only firm maybe on earth that would be specifically suited to handle this client list Like that it's worth considering because if we go with their take that no You can't absolutely because of revealing identities potential or whatever It's like so you can just abuse those people infinitely then there's no way to stop you because you'll just use the Privacy thing every time right you could sell them literally acid and they could die But it's like well, you'll never know who it was because you can't because identity protection Exactly it's it's just silly the idea that you can't mount a competent case That you can't you can't develop a witness the reason you want the client list is because you want a witness list You want to go and get a statement from every single one of those clients say hey? Hey, have you ever? Have you ever had a problem with your with your thing? What if someone else had a suit that was built by this guy? And maybe it had a flamethrower thing and he he told them to put the wrong propellant in it And so then the flamethrower arm attachment blew up and destroyed their wrist Or made them have to lose an arm or whatever what if that had happened? That would be a perfect person to say yeah, this person has they they clearly know about products liability They know that the risks of combustion That this should have been on there this is relevant to this case specifically And you'll never know because oh well we got to keep that client list private No way does this happen in a courtroom? Nothing is secret when you get sued nothing is secret even your secrets aren't secret They just may be protected at a higher level, but everything is open to the other side In a situation like this we have leapfrog who I assume cannot be Anonymous so he doesn't care about anonymity because the fact that he's in a courtroom doing all these things means that he's No, his name is out there legally We have A guy who makes suits for vigilantes one of which is there in the room whose identity that you know and So I assume they know what he does he makes suits for vigilantes And that's just a thing you're allowed to do providing people With suits with the express, you know, who's expressed intentions are to be vigilantes Uh, and and all of this just sort of is not even addressed We don't even talk about it and there's not even a conflict of yes Someone used to a mr.   That's it's so difficult to unravel Yeah, yeah air devil is like, oh, I he'd make suits for you like me and I do the job that I do But you know, he's trying to you know Do the justice system thing do the court stuff But also he knows you know You know in the in the shadows like this guy makes the suits for us and if that's done So we got to try and keep that away from the limelight. I mean interesting There's a there's a lot of interesting things you could do With what with kind of all of the players that you've introduced The idea that you have essentially an edna mode character who makes suits for superheroes And that's a super weird gray area or he only uses an alias And maybe he is a clothier Or I assume is someone who makes clothes, but but that's just a front for their superhero You know clothing all of this could be a really legitimately neat story Especially if the whole season was couched around this one ongoing case that could develop a little bit Every episode instead of just three minutes and it's done Oh my gosh Yes, and and think about what they could do with the tension of her being delivered the client list and seeing matt murdoch on it And then But having to keep it a secret having to keep it a secret from her clients Having to keep it a secret from the rest of the law firm having to keep it a secret from everybody Having to go into that courtroom knowing that that that probably not knowing that he's daredevil But just knowing that he is on the list and going oh my god What is my what if he can read my mind? What if he can do this? What if he has some sort of ability to to hear our conversations that we're having about this It would create so much dramatic tension to have to deal with another superhero lawyer Remembering that she is a superhero lawyer. Oh, yeah, completely different reasons And they just drop all of that for like no We'll hand wave away this issue because we're retarded and we don't understand it And also because we we are allergic to anything approaching any sort of actual drama I don't recognize the opportunities You know go for oh absolutely not Yeah, but just the the idea that you'd mentioned the idea that you have a character who is a superhero who can read minds But he's a lawyer and he can't just use that in court So he knows what people are literally thinking in a courtroom and he knows who is guilty or not But he has to be able to present this, you know, how do you use that in the legal or ethical way? That's its own You should you should watch dad evil you should Oh I've heard it's pretty good Yeah, what you would just highlight there. I've just I've just pictured it I was like imagine they have this big ol like back and forth On behalf of their clients when in actuality they're advocating for their own positions on how superheroes should maybe operate between the two of them In terms of being public slash known as who you are and then as they're arguing They both recognize because of the released information at least privately They both know that they both know that he is a superhero And so like that tension being present on both their faces as they argue on behalf of other people But for things that they both actually believe in in in it's a wider case as well Yeah, you're right like with a bit more time and talent. This could become much more interesting um And it could also be really funny like so this is this is a supposed to be a comedy show and comedy has lots of forms but When you have this dramatic tension between the two where it's it's between matt murdoch Jen walters and the audience that they all know that they all like we all know that they know About each other Then the the way they frame and phrase things in court can be rife with jokes Especially if they start looking into each other like matt murdoch would have an advantage because he'd know about all of her antics And she wouldn't know about his So she'd be trying to figure out who he is the whole time But he could take pointed jokes and lines at her all all throughout his Questioning of witnesses and stuff like that and it would be that's funny. That's interesting. That's character development and nope We'll just know no Why would we why would we take any time doing this and the dumb thing is it probably be easier than coming up with the Bullshit that they had because it writes itself because it's just humans figuring each other out. Yeah Um, and I'll make the best in this in an episode in a show that does not even exist That was really cool Uh, the other thing I was gonna try and highlight uh They're um They were like the reason he says the accords have been repealed is to support the idea that heroes Identities shouldn't be just revealed like arbitrarily almost but the fact is like Uh, I think that if say for example vision He that was his like superhero form and that you could undo it and be like normal bob from down the street As far as the government knew and with the accords as least the way they presented them in civil war I don't think it was anything about giving up your name publicly. It was more so The the un would have to approve of whether or not you are allowed to as part of the avengers or whatever group name They're going to give it at that point Uh on missions or not. I don't think there was anything about like you have to give up your identity This is why I get confused as to what they think the accords were What the accords actually were it seems more like what we were just talking about with them If anything if you were registered on there and they forced you to use your details like as they relate personally They wouldn't just be revealed to the public. It's the governments have Um, maybe private access to that but simultaneously that the main thing is who where your power gets spent is the idea Not necessarily what your identity is Yeah, they have to have tabs on yeah where you're using your power So if something goes wrong, they you know are aware about it Oh, um, but the thing is yeah, we only got the one movie for the accords every other movie didn't care So it's just like well, I mean I say that if it is you or an ad game like pretended they kid a little bit Like a like a little I said pretend it No, I don't think I don't think endgame pretends to care like Those never Wait, which which scene would we be I can't remember did Fuck was that like a scene where they actually mentioned that or not not mention it I mean the the the plot line if you will because it involves cap and iron man The argument, of course is the Thanos was successful because of everything that felt right Like so there's still I guess what I meant was that there's absolutely nothing by way of their plan And how that would factor into the accords or like the consequences of their actions Well, and I think that as you point out in your video and we've all agreed on it It's just like that they they barely handle the breach between those two characters at all anyway So like they didn't even do the character stuff let alone the wheel building stuff They didn't give us a Yeah, I don't think it gives a shit, but they did pretend a little bit Um, yeah, and then phase four started Yeah No mention to the government about doing the time heist or the second snap because They're just really good because you know It would be really helpful for the governments to not know When half of their population For the incoming billions of people who cares well for the incoming many crises like the food crisis The economic crisis That would be something though that that scene where the avengers are talking about all right So when we're done, which parts do we tell the government that we did? You know like do we tell them that time travels just like a thing we could do or maybe do we like not even Mention that that was done in the first place So They kept it because they're not telling anybody about that because they're never going to use time travel again Its purpose has been fulfilled. So it's never come off Existential crisis it'll create for everyone if they realize that time travel is a thing that you could do Rags the many existential crisis Oh For existential crises A big purple man got some stones and yeeted half of all life and you have that that's just the thing that happens in this world Also Time travel is a thing. Yeah time travel is a thing. It could be done We went over shape shifting aliens that could commit pride That's right.  I I can't use this damage and then um, the devil's like Sniff sniff what fuel did you use and he's like jet fuel? And he's like that's not what the instructions say By the way, when I heard the I was like, what what are you doing? Yeah, that's super smell right that's super. Yeah, but like I know that well that again I guess they're like well not everybody knows friggin golf. It's like, I don't know just maybe leave it up to people Let people figure out how we figured it out if they didn't know But anyway, right? Yeah, he lifts it up and says yeah. Yeah.  How is this absolute? I guess is my point because what if what if I ignore mcdonald's recommendation to like Wait two minutes to let the coffee cool down and I drank it, but I almost died because it's poisoned It's like, yeah, you ignore the instructions, but I have a feeling that there's more to it than that You know like just because he put jet fuel in it doesn't mean he has zero case. It depends on what else is going on More like court cases last 10 minutes or less than that actually it's more like three where the judge just goes uh From like what could be considered just a casual comment. You have no idea what's happening What if he doesn't even know what jet fuel is and he just thought it was but he actually put the correct fuel in And he just None of this has been checked But we're supposed to believe that the judge is like, no, I understand everything perfectly case dismissed And this is all stuff that apparently she hugged did not know. She didn't check No, because she's She's a very good lawyer. Absolutely worth. She was she was too busy twerking with right in the stallion That was worth it She didn't even ask him any questions about his years of the thing When did you buy the suit? What did you put it in? Do you have the instructions? You told how do you use it? When what what what were you doing? What is all this stuff? Yep, were you given the instructions where in the instructions is the warning is the warning in all capitals Is it indicated by a particular caution type signal? Is there any indication that this is an extremely important part of the operation of this product? And i'm saying like a car can break down you go because you put the wrong fuel in and it's like Okay, but also there's no wheels. That's got to be relevant, right? But it like oh, yeah, I guess so but you put the wrong fuel in there. It's like you gave me a car with no wheels That's what i'm complaining about Not the fuel thing because that's that's could easily be the case but nobody cares. Everybody would just move on It's done.  It's like what about like your client who you failed?  What is that? Abtex is boring Whatever it's like paperwork. People who like the show wouldn't get subtext. They literally wouldn't understand it. I wouldn't see the point of it They wouldn't notice it to even know they didn't notice it so then She held me up with matt in the bar and it's like Fine. There we go.  I think you said it right. She's like, is that is that is that normal?   I think And again, it it's gonna lead back to the The irony of the show the irony of the show is that the villains of the show's weapon against her is that she's a whore um, and the defense is not Uh The defense of it is not uh, but the reality is yaha because every guy who even looks at her She's immediately trying to bang in me like in I don't even know why Because that's the end of this episode But that is that it I like this this was spread and lying all over twitter I was saying because like people just be like it was that was intelligence. He has ultimate plan to say He sleeps around it's like.  Yes, uh, but yeah, we we shall get there eventually as as you can see this episode lots of stuff happens, so it's Taking a little longer But um, yeah, he says there's the whole one for one for them one for us thing So that he can look after the little guy who needs help but also pay the bills And he basically just he just tells jen what the point of his show is And that uh, you should do better I feel like it's worthwhile to line up the dialogue though because matt's like, yeah No, I I do a lot of my cases pro bono But you know, I got to take on bigger clients like jackson so that I can keep doing that And I think her first response is like complaining about the job that she accepted And how that's all of the clients.  Like that's what I agree to do Yeah, it's it's just this really funny contrast. Yeah, she's incredibly annoying to listen to I don't think they realize like kind of just how stark it is when you lay it out Yeah, I like take a lot of cases and I don't get paid because I want to help people It's like, yeah, man at the job that pays me a lot of money.  These lawyers are real jerks I'm just now remembering because I was talking about how like the court case only lasts three minutes Defenders is not very good. Um, but there's that there's like a really great scene in defenders It's it's like the first scene with matt and he's in a court case that we don't get to see like any of the lead up to it Um, and it's basically just a case that showcases like how effective he is like rhetorically and in terms of uh, like in the courtroom Um, and that scene I think it lasts like a minute and in that minute we get a ton of character for him We get to see how he operates. We understand what the case is about pretty clearly And it's like that was one minute of time you had more than that Which still wasn't enough time really but you had more than that and you did way less with your courtroom scenes They seem to feel like because it's a court like a legal comedy that there's no need for drama ever like or leveraging drama or doing anything particularly like I don't know. It's just when you compare these two characters like the contrast is so stark.  It's like well Thanks for the help one of the things I was trying to bring up about intelligence He was they have nothing to talk about with her except if they follow her like dating profiles, which apparently they do That that's all they've got to talk because remember they were like you should Actually, I'm jumping ahead Has anything to do with her legal things. Yes. Oh the thing that he does right for a job She presumably does there's only been two cases that she's Been in front of a courtroom in and it's it's the product liability case and whatever Or the well the other one was the parole hearing Like we She's a lawyer but the the divorce case was handled by her paralegal and the other attorney Her case was handled by the other attorney and there hasn't been any other case She's the head of this division and she doesn't ever do anything I think it was the yeah, it was the parole hearing. It was the magician guy and then this one Oh, yeah, she did have the magician guy. So three in nine episodes. We got three The silly thing is so as the head of the division She actually wouldn't be working most of these cases as lead counsel She'd be delegating the work to other attorneys and then stepping into assist on the cases for important witnesses Or something like that and that's how again another way they could have used this character Is have all these different cases that involve superheroes? I mean imagine all of the negligence towards for superheroes that could be out there their powers You know, they they bust a car they they caused some minor damage And so she could come in as the person who uh, if if we go to the johnny dep trial for people who watched it There was this guy wane denison Basically his entire job as a lawyer was to go and cross examine expert witnesses and some lawyers are really good at that That could have been her as a superhero as someone who knows Bruce spanner like she could sit there and be the person who comes into assist on these specific issues Where the rest of the legal issues are completely mundane And it would have been an interesting way to use this character in a courtroom legal drama That would add this twist to the courtroom element that makes it unique to marvel. Nope Nothing nothing you've highlighted something that yeah, like they never work together Like they so they never work together. You never see like the team working together on on a case Like it's always individually pug will be on his own and That malarie character will be on her own like it's never them coming together and they each have a unique skill set Like they each have sort of an area of expertise that they can leverage Fucking why them? Sorry Yes, so He gets a call. He gets a call. He's got to go off and do something. We'll find out what that is soon enough Her call is from hard hard.  I bought a Million dollar Wakandan war spear and um You know, I actually studied there and then he just goes Wakanda forever and then she goes. Oh, no, don't do that I was just like what is this seed like It's just cringy. Everything's cringy to make you not like him more Well, yeah, they will they finally do a At some level of a job of that with him being like come on. I know that you have feelings for me and stuff But then like he goes to grab her. I think I can't remember but she fucks off. But um The other thing I was going to mention is that he says that um Legally speaking, he's in some level of trouble because they want the spear back because it was stolen by colonizers And that he's bought it now so that he believes it belongs to him. So, you know, what's the legal issue there exactly? um I was confused with this. I was watching with rags and I was like wait, but Wakandan war spear How did that get colonized like taken by colonizers that that wouldn't So the only way that that could work is if it was simply stolen by someone like claw Which is possible. But does that mean you're just calling him a colonizer because he's white But I mean if if if that's how it works, they'd never do that shield Wouldn't captain america shield be like, um, I guess so, you know, I think they do feel that way about it, right?  It's um It's the the the reality is that yeah, if you watch black panther They do pretty much just refer to you as colonizer if you're white and it's like, oh, okay I was just a little bit confused. I was like, how did how did they get stuff from Wakanda with colonization? What it's immune to that Essentially, but yeah, that's that's just what they meant. So he's bad guy. He'll come up again. Don't worry about it um Which takes us again in this world Wakanda is just a known country now people know about Wakanda.  They want to know Africa will want to pour into Wakanda um So we got leapfrog is now calling she-hulk asking for help because She says legally or physically and he says definitely physically he's being attacked by somebody and um She's like, uh, where are you and he says he's going to the is the leap The the lily pad this is big old base and I thought I thought this was really weird He's like, yeah, I just need to find my friends and then she looks at her phone.  He's got like a active location thing for his Is that normal now? I didn't realize that was a thing for people when they call each other Do you know Maybe maybe it's part of the uh, that's Again, another interesting thing they could have done to explain this is that um, all of the clients all of the super Super clients of this law firm Uh consent to having their location tracked by their attorneys through proprietary software, which would help them You know, uh discern issues or or resolve problems without having to involve Maybe local authorities because it would reveal identity, etc. etc, etc Like they could just build a very simple plot device like I'm going to log into the glk tracking system and find my client Oh, there you are. I'll be right there. Like you're you're really close. I can help you simple Yeah, because the way this goes is she's like, where is the lily pad and he's like She says am I supposed to know where that is? And then he goes, I just need to find my friends And she looks down at her phone as he says like, uh, I'll try and lose him in this parking lot And then she goes, oh, you're close to me.  There's like that's just something she could see I guess That's just something they have set up because of course a vigilante who's It doesn't want to you know, I'm going with that. So anyway, she uh, she does a bat woman Finally, we have a strong connection. She's uh, she knows this guy is in physical danger She's about to go and save his life. She's on board with it, but she decides wait I need to put on my costume Like man can like that woman. Just like bat woman. Yeah, great. Yeah You know, it was um, I think one of the things, uh My dad had said once Uh, was it because everyone used to have landlines. So whenever you called someone you knew Who you knew where they were You never had to ask where are you because everyone needs landlines And now when you call it with cell phones when you call people you know who it is And you have to ask where are you and he said that every once in a while That just seemed strange to him just one of those passage of time and technology things Kind of interesting. It's almost yeah, it's it's almost a reverse Where nowadays if someone calls you, you know who it is, but you don't know where they are, right? But in when they call you and it's a landline, you know where they are, but you know But it's it is interesting. Um, why didn't you call the police? Oh Why didn't you go to the police station? He's got a crazy vigilante who's attacking on the roof of his car And if the argument is well, but then did I will could tell the police that he's captured Loop Jacobson or something like that. I'd be like well, I mean at that point then Why is he calling she Hulk his lawyer? Yeah, like what is your plan?  You don't see batwoman do anything like this But you could totally imagine she would if she had this kind of power Um, think about it. This is like this car that's almost in a runaway state because it's got a guy who's trying to break into it He's broken the glass. He's trying to attack this guy Chat here you go. Just so you can understand she lands In front of it directly and she doesn't have a Yeah, somehow from someplace. That's a great point actually. She just flies in and this guy like emergency breaks He's like surprise and look at his stance.  Otherwise Good thing, you know exactly who this is what you're doing. What the circumstances are around this Imagine if there was somebody else in the car like and you didn't know or just yeah What if he wasn't wearing a seatbelt? Exactly. Well, I just said that but yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I it's okay. It's okay. My drags. That's okay. It's all right I won't I won't hold that what he gets you but yeah Look at that and that there he is. There's there says there's She looks funny. She does look funny.  Why did you do that? Exactly?  And to be honest with you with the momentum of everything that's involved that like This worst thing should have happened, but hey, it's fine to worry about it. Yeah, but Yeah, and there there he is look at him And it's classic Look at look at that. Look at him go look at that big old jump I don't know how I feel about colors. It's not I like the suit design. I'm on the fence about the colors We can have a so just in case anybody In case anybody doesn't know this is dead of all when he first appeared had a red and yellow Um, like color scheme but looks similar to this except he had the double D Thing like on his suit on the front. Um, and then eventually he got his basically at this point iconic like full scarlet Like red. Yeah, that's what I'm familiar with And that's yeah, but and that's the one that he has in the show Which I think they're trying to I think they want to like try as best as possible to have the show like exist Here in this universe. They they use the same music from the show like later on Um, but he's changed it I guess to this and we can talk a bit A little bit later with a particular line of dialogue that annoyed me a lot Um, but yeah, I mean I prefer the full red. Um, the this color scheme. I I don't mind it as like a reference But I definitely prefer the full red the red and scar it plays into the devil thing.  Well, it's it's kind of a good job of having these toned down But you could tell what it is, but it's still it's not like bright, but it is. Yeah, definitely Well, yeah, it's it's um, it's I guess it's a matter of if you think about the comic history of like where Dada will started towards like what the comics eventually Move towards in terms of the tone of the stories and like the nature of the character Yeah, like it's it's it's like This is not a costume that he would he would wear anymore Um, or like that he would wear in this, you know, if we to believe that the show is canon, but whatever Um, also, isn't it great that like his big triumphant return to the mcu?  Um, it'