Hi everyone and welcome back to another Pokemon VGC 2019 Ultra Series Guide. We kicked off on our last guide yesterday with an introduction to the Ultra Series. Now we've already played through the Sun Series, through the Moon Series and now we're entering into the Ultra Series and unlike going into the Moon Series where you just had that transition with the Z moves, there are a lot of new mechanics, new Pokemon available to us going into this. So in the introduction guide that I did yesterday, it just recaps everything about the Ultra Series, giving you that kind of basic knowledge that you need going into the Ultra Series. Some ideas, there's some sample teams in there for you to try out to get you started. So just to really encapsulate everything that you need to know going into the Ultra Series, so you have a really good time, a successful time and it gets you off the ground running. So hopefully you enjoyed it. If you did miss it and you'd like to go and check that out, make sure you do hop up, I'll get it right, it's up here. There'll be a card there, it'll link you back to the introductory guide and you can check that out, make sure that you haven't missed anything there. But getting on to today's guide, this is episode two of five. Like I mentioned in yesterday's guide, the schedule for when the guides will be coming out will be detailed at the end of the video. But today's guide number two, we're looking at Primal Kyoga, getting right into the depth of the Pokemon themselves and what better place to start than with Primal Kyoga. So before we get into anything, as always, if you enjoy this sort of content, please remember to drop a like on the video. Make sure you do subscribe to the channel so you don't miss when these guides do drop as well as our daily battle series, our flinch squad circuit stuff and restream things as well. Everything on the channel VGC related. Make sure that you leave a comment down below because I love hearing from you guys any thoughts on the guides themselves, anything you'd like to see in the future and just generally what your thoughts are going into the Ultra series, what you're most looking forward to about the whole series. So without further ado guys, let's hop into it. So starting off with a Pokemon overview, as we normally do, we've got Primal Kyoga. When it Primal reverts from Kyoga, when it hits the field, it is gotta be holding that blue orb, it will revert into Primal Kyoga. Now it gets a buff in its base stats and it also gets a brand new ability called Primordial Sea. Now this is one of the things that is the draw to Primal Kyoga, making it very strong. So unlike normal rain, we mentioned it in the introduction guide, Primordial Sea activates when Kyoga is brought onto the field and does not leave the field until Kyoga is either fainted, it switches out or another Primal Weather switches into a variety being Desolate Land or Delta Stream. One of the bonuses that you get with Primordial Sea is whenever it's active on the field, all fire damage dealing moves will fail. So they will not hit anything on any side of the field as long as Primordial Sea is in effect, it still gets the added bonuses of Swift Swim, all of the other things like dry skin that really normal rain has the secondary effects of and also giving water type attacks that 50% boost. So it is affected of course by airlock and cloud nine, so you need to be a little bit careful about that, but all of the other weather that you normally see, sunny day, rain dance, hail and sandstorm, if they come onto the field or if they are used by a Pokemon to try and override it, they will fail. Now Primal Kyoga keeps its base speed of 90 but does have an overall of 100 HP, 150 attack, which is just phenomenal. 90 defense, 180 special attack, 160 special defense and 90 speed as we've already mentioned, giving it a base that total of 770, which is just phenomenal, making this thing incredibly strong. You've got the obvious weaknesses and resists here, grass and electric are going to be its big weaknesses, immune to nothing unfortunately because of that water typing and then it does resist steel, fire, water and ice, so just to recap those. So that is just a brief overview of Primal Kyoga, now let's get into the nitty gritty, the stuff that you're here to see, we're going to start off with some example spreads and partnering Pokemon. So the first sample set I'm going to give you in this guide is a fast offensive Primal Kyoga. Now this one runs a modest nature, runs a speed stat of 142, maxing out that speed stat on a neutral nature, EV spread of 28 HP, 12 defense, 212 special attack, 4 special defense and 252 speed. The moves set you're predominantly going to see in this sort of Kyoga is going to be water spout, ice beam, origin pulse, thunder, a mix between those, so you're either going to have water spout, origin pulse as the option there with the coverage being ice beam and thunder and then protect as a mainstay on the set. Then just to give you an example of how powerful this Primal Kyoga is in the rain, a 212 special attack Primal Kyoga, water spout versus a 4 HP, no special defense, zonius and heavy rain is a guaranteed one hit kill, which I'm sure you all knew anyway, but it's pretty powerful. Defensive calculation without very much defensive investment here, you can see a plus two special attack. 252 very aura boosted zonius moon blast against this Primal Kyoga is a guaranteed two hit cause, so you can always always know with even the tiniest amount of investment this Primal Kyoga is going to be taking those plus two moon blasts from a timid zonius. Now we're going to look at some restricted partners that you're going to see commonly as we go into the ultra series. We'll go through a lot of them as we go through this guide, but some to start us off. You're going to see Evelto, a very nice partner for this kind of Kyoga build, Lunala as well, both have access to that tailwind and then zonius also going to be another nice partner in the restricted section. Some non-restricted partners that are going to be very good and you're going to see commonly paired with Kyoga, you're going to see mega salamence, it brings that intimate, it has a ground immunity, it has a dragon typing as well. It's very complementary to Kyoga because you can switch Kyoga out when it's facedown in front of a ground on, when desolate land's active and switch that salamence thing, get an intimidate off the immune to those ground type attacks. So they work quite nicely in conjunction together. You're going to have something like Incineroar. We've already seen how strong Incineroar is throughout this series with Kyoga and just generally in this format with its fake out support, pivot support, intimidate support, and fire and dark typing, which is extremely strong. And then another little addition there, we're going to see something like Smeagol as well that does cover and protect that Kyoga, especially when paired with Zernius as well. Some Pokemon checks against Primal Kyoga. Now, a big one is always going to be the Primal Groudon. If you switch Primal Groudon in when you've got your Primal Kyoga out, then desolate land will override the Primal Audio C and you will not be able to use your powerful water type attacks. Groudon being a ground and fire type, it is going to be immune to the electric types and it's only getting hit neutrally from those ice beams. So you do not want your Kyoga being locked into desolate land on the field against the Groudon. It is going to be very difficult and you are going to take a lot of damage from those powerful precipice blades from the opposing Groudon. Another check is now going to be Cortana.  So Kyoga doesn't have that automatic speed boost that it would normally get from something like a choice scarf. These Pokemon like Cortana and Tabakoko are naturally going to outspeed Kyoga and can do phenomenal damage if you are not supporting your Kyoga properly or checking these Pokemon adequately. So they're just to name a few. We're going to name a lot more as we go through these guides, but this is the first set. This is the fast defensive Kyoga set and it also works nice with things like Rekwaza because Rekwaza obviously with that airlock it can switch in even if Groudon's out on the field, get rid of that desolate land and then you can fire off those water type attacks to get rid of things like Groudon that are causing a bit of a pain at the time. So we will move on to our next sample set which is going to be a trick room or tailwind set. So it's kind of one of those middling speed Kyogas. It's very bulky, going to be able to take an onslaught of attacks but it can act well in trick room and well in tailwind. So this is the idea of this Kyoga. It's not going too fast, it's not going too slow, kind of you dictate the pace depending on what you're playing and this is the type of Kyoga I personally like to play. It's very flexible and when you can kind of scout out what your opponent's trying to do you can flip the speed around to suit you and really kind of hinder their ability to operate as well as they would like to. So it does mean having trick room and tailwind in your team but I mean you can easily squeeze that into a six Pokemon team. Now partnering Pokemon before you get into EVs, natures or damage calculations you're going to see commonly Rayquaza is again going to be something that you're going to see always commonly paired with Kyoga because of that airlock ability because of the delta stream as well that it has access to. Giving Rayquaza double chances to always overwrite the desolate land which is the one thing that Kyoga really does fear and shuts it down hard. Rayquaza really alleviates that and just makes Kyoga even more threatening. So Rayquaza does have access to tailwind, whether or not you can fit that on your set is another thing but it can support Kyoga in that regard as well. Gonna have something like Sogallia does partner nicely with the Kyoga. Kyoga is a decent check to something like Prima Groudon which would normally threaten Sogallia pretty hard but Sogallia really enjoys the rain especially when that rains up it cannot be hit by any fire type attacks so it doesn't have that to worry about. So as long as you've got your ground checks in place you can build a really nice call between Sogallia and Kyoga. So that's those two and another one just to mention is going to be Hoho. If we ever do get regenerated this pairing would be ridiculous even without it even with that pressure ability Hoho is still a very strong Pokemon in this format especially if Groudon isn't carrying any rock type attacks and Hoho has a really nice time against it because he cannot be hit by those precipice blades you can still throw out brave birds at it obviously sacred fire is not going to be as effective now with its power fire typing but it does again act a little bit like that salamence that mega salamence gives the alleviation for Kyoga to switch out pretty safely and then allow something to come back in for it as well then non-restricted partners are going to have a look at things like mega which has that lightning and rotability before mega evolve so you can pick your time perfectly when you want to mega evolve. Minetric to protect Kyoga from potential electric type attacks from sick type of cocoa and then when the moment is right you can mega evolve with Minetric get that intimidate support which is really going to help out Kyoga as well because it is weaker on its defensive side and then pivot out with a quick vault switch and reposition your board maybe get requires around this situation and you could grow out on so all the possibilities are there and Minetric mega Minetric is a very good partner in Pokemon for Kyoga. I'm going to see another non-restricted partner very commonly played with Kyoga it's going to be Bronzong it's very slow nice steel typing good against Xerneas has levitate skill swap and trick room very good support options for Kyoga and allows you to set up a trick room get under that trick room where you've got the speed advantage maybe skill swap to prevent the ground on taking advantage with its desolate land ability or a requiser with its delta stream and then nuke them with an ice beam or a water type attack respectively and then other partners are going to be something like ludicolor it's going to take full advantages we've seen in past format with that swift swim ability it's got the fake out support there and as long as that primordial C is active it is two times faster than it would normally be and going to outspeed most things in the format and it still has access to that Z move so it can be a big threaten something you need to really keep in mind and be aware of now pokemon checks again you're going to see something like Zekrom Zekrom is going to be as it is a dragging type resisting those water type attacks the ice type attacks it will be weak against but it's going to be able to take at least an ice beam and then throw back a big powerful electric type attack which can potentially pick up a knockout onto the Kyoga now Zekrom is another pokemon that can carry a Z crystal so you need to be careful with that it commonly runs choice scarf as well so that's something else that you need to kind of keep in mind when you are playing possibly against one i don't know how popular Zekrom will be in this format but you never know at the start of a format how things are going to pan out you can probably pretty safely say that you're not going to run into too many Zekroms though with primordial Groudon really predominantly keeping them at bit alongside that Zernius another pokemon check is going to be Toxicroak again as we saw in the Sun and the Moon series Toxicroak going to be a pokemon that just can sit in front of primordial Kyoga all day long especially without assault vest with its dry skin ability not take any damage from those powerful water type attacks and start really chipping away at Kyoga or any partnering pokemon Toxicroak does have a much more difficult time in the ultra series though this is one thing to just point out because of the presence of mega requiser for one with those flying type attacks that are so threatening and something like ultra necrosma as well as the primordial Groudon with its desolate land ability and another pokemon check just to throw in here is going to be Gastrodon it will have a great time against primordial Kyoga it can throw out all of the attacks at once it's not really going to be able to touch Gastrodon and Gastrodon is one of those pokemon that can sit in front of primordial Kyoga and it does really threaten primordial Groudon as well because of its new fire typing it has that ground resistance so it can do a pretty decent job against both of those primers so if you can fit it into your team and make it work then it got a lot of potential to maybe do something in this format now getting on to the interesting bits we've got a bold nature on this primordial Kyoga we went for a maximum defense we went for an EV spread of 204 hp 228 defense 44 special attack four special defense and 28 speed that speed stat like we mentioned earlier gives you that raw speed stat of 114 which also allows you to utilize Kyoga in and with icy wind or electro web so they're two things you can take advantage of with that 114 raw speed stat after one icy wind you'll be out speeding all base 100 pokemon which is pretty nice now an offensive calc from this spread and set a 44 special attack primordial Kyoga scald if you decide to go down the skull root with it against a 252 hp no special defense primordial Groudon as long as the delta stream is active or airlock is active is a guaranteed one hit kill so you do not worry about that at all and then the defensive calc is a 252 plus nature attack primordial Groudon precipice blades versus this Kyoga is always a guaranteed three hit kill and that is unintimidated so that's pretty nice so you can get yourself into a position where you've got the delta stream up or the airlock you know for a fact whatever the groudon's doing in front of you you're going to be able to take three precipice blades from the primordial garden and kind of guarantee that you'll be able to be at easily one on one as long as that desolate land isn't active so that is the more bulky kind of middle tier speed trick room tailwind set and we'll move on to our third example set of this guide which is the slow and bulky kyoga so we'll be running minimum speed kyoga for this one 85 raw speed stat we're going to run with a quiet nature zero speed i v we're going to go with an ev spread of 204 hp 236 defense 44 special attack and 20 special defense now again move sets here you can choose anything from water spout probably not wanting to go more water spout here more origin pulse on this set then ice beam skull thunder protect it's up to you what you want i always prefer the coverage of having origin pulse ice beam and thunder it gives you all the things that you need origin pulse isn't the most reliable attack but you can get around that with gravity and and other options to help support kyoga there now an offensive calculation from this specific primal kyoga you're going to see a 44 plus special attack primal kyoga water spout versus a 236 hp 236 special defense incinero in heavy rain is a guaranteed one hit chaos so against that standard bulky incinero as long as your heavy rain is up that water spout is going to absolutely destroy it and incinero is one of those pokemon that is not going away so you're going to have a really good time against the incinero as long as your primordial sea is active now a defensive calc just to let you know one of the things that does partner primal kyoga really well it does threaten it as well is that mega requiser with its dragon ascent and you're going to see that commonly run things like sword stance so you've got to kind of try and keep it checked with intimidates and even though you have intimidate you're probably going to only be able to get a back down to plus one so this calculation here is key to being able to at least deal or try to deal with requiser without just instantly losing and that is a plus one two five two attack mega requiser dragon ascent so jolly mega requisers dragon ascent on plus one against this primal kyoga is a guarantee to hit cause so if you're full health you know you'll always be able to take that plus one dragon ascent from mega requiser and that might be enough to give you a room to kind of steal the game away so that is the ev spread the nature and just a few of the calculations now just stick to partners again you're going to see with this bulkier version or things like primal groud on it's going to be a very good partner for it you've got the dual primals it did so well in 2016 and i can see doing well again into this format so you've got both weathers on the team and you can really choose and pick which one you want to go for normally the kyoga in these teams is quite slow along with that groud on so you're looking at more predominantly a trick room setup here going to have partners again mega requiser is going to be another nice one to have and i've just tagged on their dial go as well something to think about going into this format even though it does make life a little bit harder against something like primal groud on non-restricted partners a big one that we can see on our screen right now is going to be that mega gengar it's going to have the ability to trap opposing pokemon in on the field and you're going to be able to really utilize that weather support with your primal and that would be that weather support with primal kyoga making sure that you're not losing control there i see wind support even trick room support from mega gengar options there you're going to see the bronze on again we've went through the reasons why it's so good support wise with these primals and then kanto raichu as well is going to be another option with that line and rod faker support nuzzle and all of the other supporting options it has available to it some pokemon check definitely and i don't know how often we're going to see it but parkia will wall primal kyoga pretty much all day long with its dragon and water typing you're going to have things like ferrathorn especially if you're going to slaw bulky kyoga is going to be under speeding you and really threatening you with those grass type attacks and because it's so bulky it's going to be able to just eat those water type attacks up all day long and then obviously again is ludicolor we mentioned it was a good partner in the previous slide but this one again it's going to be something that you need to be very careful of and have some nice checks against to help out primal kyoga but it does suffer a bit like the toxa croak with the inclusion and popularity of mega requiser because that ludicolor loses its swift swim as long as the airlock or the delta streams out in the field and requiser can deal quite handily with ludicolor so whether its popularity stays or it probably does decrease as the format goes on but it's something to just be aware of if you are playing kyoga so we will move on to a few sample teams that i put together for you guys going forward if you want to try kyoga out in this format i've put some sample teams in the description below so you can see those sample teams on the screen in front of you you've got the top one the second one and the third one there's some interesting themes to try out but like i say the poker piss and roll piss are all in the description below so if you do try them out let me know what you think of them and i hope it's a useful tool for you to have to get started within the ultra series and that's one of the things that i want to do with these guides so they are the sample teams as i say they're down in the description and do with them as you please my friends and we will just end up with a counters and summary of primal kyoga so as we said it is a water type it's got the ability primordialcy we hopefully all know what that is about now we can see that kyoga with that blue old bean primal kyoga can only have a maximum speed of 156 a minimum speed of 85 and i'd say probably at the beginning of the format you're going to see that common speed of 142 run on primal kyoga but you know the benchmarks you know it's maximum speed there's nothing to hide it can't have a choice golf there is nothing to hide so you know if you have something faster than 156 you will be out speeding it if you have something slower than 85 and you're in a trick room you will be out speeding it this is what i mean about knowing the speeds these items are making these pokemon quite linear to approach to deal with so it makes it a little bit easier they're very strong don't get me wrong you cannot take them for granted but you know what you need to do to get around them have something faster something they can hit it very hard supported by a partnering pokemon the things that kyoga needs to protect it and then you can really deal with it very effectively so things that you're going to need to support kyoga in your team building you're going to need speed control it's not the fastest pokemon as you can see here it's not the slowest pokemon either so you're gonna need some sort of speed control to help it get into positions where it can really start ripping through your opponent's team with those big powerful water type attacks intimidate support is another thing to tick off the list it is very strong special defensively but defensively it is a lot weaker so you need to protect it from that angle and intimidate support is very useful with primal kyoga grass and electric checks so they're very important things to have a lightning rod user would be very useful to have with kyoga to really neutralize any sort of electric type threats especially some something like type of cocoa mega magnetic or just a ground type in there as well to help alleviate those weaknesses grass types you've got mega requiser flying types in general are going to be great checks for all of those grass types that do threaten it as well redirections very nice something like lefairy toga kiss and moongus all things smiggle as well they will be beneficial to kyoga help keep it around on the field as long as possible because the longer it's around on the field the more damage it will be doing and making it very difficult for your opponent to actually take the win in that match and the last thing that i'm going to mention that you really need to have when playing one of these primals specifically kyoga is pivot support so you want something like type of cocoa mega magnetic with that quick fast vault switch so you can vault switch out switch kyoga out on the opposite side when you're doing this so you vault switch into the kyoga get your weather back up and get back into a really strong position going into the next turn now you've got slow pivot options as well like incineral if you've seen do so well in this format landeris is another option but there are lots of options there but it is a very strong thing to have alongside your primal weathers and we'll support it a lot better than not having it in your team at all pokemon threats we've went through a lot of them in the sample spreads and sets but just to reiterate those they're going to be primal ground on katana type of cocoa requiser zekrom mega magnetic all things that give it a very hard time pokemon walls you're going to see things like park here ferrithon ludicolor toxa croc gastrodon and dial gas so it's good just to have answers against those specific pokemon so you have ways to deal with them to alleviate kyoga's ability to just sweep through teams and do the job that you want it to so that pretty much oh there we go skipping slides again but that pretty much wraps up all of the kyoga guides so i hope you've enjoyed it guys it's been a lot of fun covering it and we've covered quite a lot of information within it so if you'd like to go back if you've got any questions or anything like that go back through the video i'll have a lot of pauses just takes some time but if there's anything you've got questions about from the entire video do leave them in the comment section below and i will get back to you as soon as possible but i hope it's been a beneficial guide for you to get you started within this ultra series get a bit of an understanding of how primal kyoga can be played and how to play against it what support options you need what support options your opponent needs to protect it and what you can really do to both support it and when you're playing against it exploit it as well to overcome it because it is a very powerful and strong pokemon so that is that and we'll be back with another guide tomorrow and tomorrow's guide we're going to be looking at primal groudon it's going to be a lot of fun primal groudon is extremely good in this format we're with but we'll leave that for that guide so do tune in tomorrow i really hope you have enjoyed this one thank you so much for tuning in and i will catch you all very soon so until the next time guys take care of yourselves and bye


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From San Francisco, extracting the signal from the noise, it's theCUBE, covering Oracle OpenWorld 2015, brought to you by Oracle. Now your hosts, John Furrier and Brian Grace Lee. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live in San Francisco, on Howard Street in the middle of the street in the Cloud Plaza, Oracle Cloud Plaza, which is the big exhibit here at Oracle OpenWorld. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE. This is theCUBE, our flagship program. We go out to the events and extract the signal noise. My co-host, Brian Grace Lee, analysts at Wikibon with the Cloud, our next guest at Georgetown, Vice President of Development, Java platform at Oracle. Welcome to theCUBE. Thanks, I'm glad to be here. So 20 years anniversary for Java, we're here on the behind desk. 20 years, it makes me feel old because Java was a language when I got my hands on it. It was like, wow, this is really amazing. Totally big, functional, great language. 20 years in, a lot of new languages, a lot of competition, so to speak. A lot of young developers who have never loaded Unix, or Linux, they just want Cloud, they want data. So what's the 20 year vibe here? What's the theme and what are you guys doing? Yeah, the vibe here is just fantastic. The Java developers are a wonderful set of people. There's just like lots of enthusiasm and people coming, both to hear about the things that have happened in the last 20 years and also looking forward at new development that's being done towards future versions. So Java is one of those languages that a lot of people are using and certainly that's the old guys who loved it. But now the young guns are coming in. They're looking at a lot of real time for like Node.js, a lot of open source is now mainstream. This all built under an open source fabric. How do you talk to that diversity of opportunities? Certainly this functional diversity, this tool for this job. How do you guys talk about that as the new young generation comes in and as software is the center of all the action right now? So how do you speak to that? I think there's a kind of a combination of things. So on the one hand, there have never been more languages and sort of diversity out there and things for people to choose from. On the other hand, many people find as they start to experiment with different things that the things that are tried and true, solid, secure, reliable performance are actually worth more than ever. Another interesting trend that we've seen a lot of is people writing new languages to run on the JVM. So that's quite a neat thing to see happening as well. And then finally, we've been investing in, trying to make sure that the technology is refreshed, is new, is up to date, and not just kind of resting on our laurels of being the most popular platform in the world. Can you give some specific examples of the Java renaissance and growth? I mean, where people are using it? I mean, be specific, some really key example. Sure. We've seen a lot of companies out there. We're kind of used to the large companies on Wall Street and that kind of thing using it, as well as people using it to power sort of mission critical things. But we're also seeing now a lot of startups turning to Java as they get to the point where they actually need to scale, right? So they may have experimented with a few other things to try to get something up quickly, but when they get to the point where they need to make sure that it's going to be solid and take them where they need to go, then they move that. So we saw that recently with Twitter and some other companies like that. So it's quite nice. So what's next for the Java platform? Where you guys investing? This is an area that people want to know more about. Obviously, software's eating the world. You've seen software-defined data center. Software-defined everything now. I mean, software's at the center of the value proposition. What are you guys investing in? Well, I think there are a couple of things. We're investing heavily in Java in the cloud because we're seeing a lot of people wanting to use Java in cloud environments. So thinking through the places and the things that we can do to really make that easy. We also are always looking at future hardware trends in order to make sure that the tools that you have available in Java and the way the implementation is done is as good as it can be, not only for the hardware today, but also for the hardware of the future. And we're going to talk about that a bunch in the keynote today. Yeah, so this show has got a ton of Fortune 500, Fortune 2000, some of the biggest names are here. We're seeing, we've seen it for the last six months, a lot around Internet of Things. And a lot of that is moving. There's lots of directions, but the Internet of Things around industrial manufacturing, around fleets and so forth. What are you hearing as you talk to those large customers? Because sometimes people think of Java as a heavyweight protocol, sometimes it's got a large footprint. You start getting into small devices. What's that conversation looks like for IoT plus Java? Well, there are really a couple of places there, right? So on the one hand, you have all of these devices. You also have a lot of data that's being created, right? And that data is going to a backend somewhere. Now typically those backends are already written in Java, right? But it's also very, very useful to be able to do smarter things either at a point where you're aggregating or even all the way on the edge in the device itself. And there's really no better technology for doing that than Java. And in fact, there are versions of Java that are extremely lightweight and work really, really well in those kinds of environments. Yeah, so that's fantastic. We're starting to see, especially, John talked about sort of these newer generations. We're seeing new cloud platforms come along, especially kind of newer middleware. Java's obviously a huge piece of fusion, but maybe the next Twitter, the next Airbnb comes along, they're building a lot themselves. How do you think about sort of your role as driving the Java platform versus Java in the core Oracle space? Do you look at both sides of that sort of what's coming new and fusion or do you try and stay focused in the Oracle space? Yeah, there's a lot of synergy. I mean, as you can imagine, it's immensely useful for us working on Java SE, having a bunch of groups in the same company that we can talk to and find out about what things work and what they're worried about and what some of their pain points are. It's also, I think, the case that, as we're looking forward to people running things in the cloud, whether they be on a traditional middleware but run as cloud services, or it's completely new in different cloud services, we're seeing that they're choosing Java as the technology of choice for the underpinning. James Gosling was talking about robots and Raspberry Pi, a lot of innovation, a lot of tinker, it's a maker culture now. And one of the things that I've been seeing, certainly within our team and customer bases, is that Java is interoperating with a lot of these smaller, lightweight languages for the IoT stuff, like Raspberry Pi and some other things. So how do you keep it sexy? How do you keep winning the developers' hearts and minds with Java? And at Java One, how do you guys keep it so strong? I mean, every year, it's like, it's the death of Java. I hear it over and over again. Java's all, you know, this and that. But it actually works well for our dashboarding, it's great for heavy-glypting coding. Yeah. Is that how you see it? I mean, how do you guys win the hearts and minds of developers? So what I'd say is, you know, really, since Oracle became the steward of Java, we've really been trying to reinvigorate the development of Java itself. So looking at things that people want to do. So as an example, in the Java 8 release, we had something called Project Lambda, which allows you to write closures in Java, bringing a more functional style of programming. So a lot of these other technologies you're talking about, like people are actually really interested in, you know, getting towards a functional style of programming, you can do that today in Java. On the development teams, it's all agile now, right? And so I got to ask you, what specifically do you want to lay out at Java 1 this week? What do you say to the attendees at Java 1 this week? So we're saying congratulations and thanks for 20 years of Java and look forward to another 20 years of strong technology for the Java SAT. Great, that's awesome. I got to ask you a personal question. You know what I mean? Us computer science guys lived in a generation where open source was kind of radical. Now it's tier one. So now the open source thing is so strong. It is a first class citizen. And so software, world has changed. What have you learned over the years and the 20 years looking at the Java evolution? It's importance, obviously, it's historic. We see that, obviously it's great. But what have you learned and what's been magnified learnings for you over the past 20 years and put that in context to the next 20? So I would say that I've learned that it is just amazing what a community of developers can achieve working well together, working transparently, communicating, rolling up their sleeves and getting things done. I've also learned a lot about the importance of compatibility, things remaining stable. And you're knowing that the program that you wrote many, many years ago on an early version of Java still runs today just much, much, much faster. What are the top conversations that you're involved in?  I'll see a developer standpoint. What are the top three conversations you're involved with, with developers and customers? So I think there's in general an interest in the things that are coming. And so a lot of the discussion actually is about helping people understand what things are out there that they can already find and look at in order to understand what the future looks like. We definitely have people who are interested in taking what they've done in the past and moving it to a new environment, whether it be to the cloud or whether it be to a small device. There's a lot of interest in that as well. A lot of confusion too around Java and where it fits. We, you addressed that. But one of the things I'm super excited about is we interview a lot of folks from women in tech to, you know, suffer on education where computer science, where we're passionate about getting it into the core, like math, science and elementary schools all the way down to that level. But certainly at high school, you're seeing Java be the cornerstone of it.  Here you have over 450 kids at Java one that's three times more than last year. Kids are digging Java right now. And because of the, how do you make sense of that? How do you explain that? Well, I think there are a lot of reasons for it. I think one of the main reasons is it's fairly easy to get started with. And, you know, if it's well written, it's pretty easy to understand it. And I think that's a really big part. You know, there are some languages that make things really easy to create, but then they become sort of an un-maintainable soup. Thankfully, you know, Java encourages people to write things in a way that's actually, you know, usually pretty easy to understand if you're coming across it the first time. And we were just at the Grace Hopper event in the Houston of Women in Computing. It's interesting, they have the one hour coding. And I was talking to one of the professors, they're like, hey, you know what? These kids these days, it's not about being a geek, nerd or dork. They don't even use those terms anymore because everyone's programming now. People from football players down to cheerleaders to everybody's now interested in coding. Maybe because of the gamification, but it's computers are cool, right? Software's very cool now. So it's just great for me because what I was doing with software, it was not as cool as it is today. It was not as cool, was it? So what's the coolest thing that you've seen? Obviously the kids is impressive, the 450 kids. What is the coolest thing you've seen? Well, I'll tell you, I just thought it was super cool yesterday with all of the kids in this program, you know, going through classes. They gave up, you know, an entire Saturday to sit inside. And one of the neatest things about that was it wasn't only kids coming and getting taught by adults. There were a bunch of sessions where kids who had gone through the program last year came back and gave the courses. And I think that's pretty tremendous. Yeah, I think it's a total renaissance. I think it's like, it's gonna be very interesting 20 years. What's your view of the next 20? What do you mean? Just shoot the arrow forward. I mean, don't put the oracle hat on, put your personal hat on, yeah, so we don't get in trouble. I think the whole world is gonna be writing Java. It's gonna be awesome. Java, obviously great, heavy, heavy lifting tool. It's really, you know, really amazing stuff. So continuing, but also integrating with a lot of the other stuff like node real time.  How do you see that coming together? Well, I think that some of the trends we've seen with Polyglot are going to continue, right? People are sort of at the point where they understand that they're not necessarily gonna have one language that does everything they need. They're gonna have kind of a mix. And so it's really gonna be important for these languages to kind of work well together. And for people to be able to sort of master different styles that are appropriate for different things that they're doing. So final question, what's your plans for this week? Obviously, we're kicking off. It's Sunday here, it's beautiful out in San Francisco. It's no rain, it's gorgeous. What's your plans? And what's the bumper sticker for this show? So two questions, what's your plans this week? What are you gonna do? Break it down for us. And then to put a bumper sticker on this show in advance so people can get a feel for what's gonna happen. Well, let's say you got back to back meetings lined up just about every day. I'm gonna be meeting with a lot of customers. I'm gonna be meeting with a lot of developers. It actually started for me already early this morning with the breakfast with Java user group leaders and the Java champions. Are people pumped? They are super excited about it. And the bumper sticker for this show, this week's cloud, all about cloud. It's gonna be Java in the cloud, how about that? Java in the cloud, that's the bumper sticker. Okay, we're live here on Howard Street, this is theCUBE, we'll be right back with more after this short break, for more. We're podcasting, go to SiliconANGLE.tv. Every Wednesday we feature a women in Wednesday on SiliconANGLE.tv and of course we have guests of the week, our favorite interview as voted by the crowd and our editors at SiliconANGLE, Wikibon and theCUBE will vote for our guests of the week. That's a dedicated podcast. So go to SiliconANGLE.tv for that. We'll be right back, more live here at Oracle Open World and Java One here on Sunday after this short break.


I'm Marcia Joyner, and today it is about community matters. As we come down to the end of this what seems like forever campaign, we are going to talk to William Bill Ilar, who is running for the office of Hawaiian Affairs. That is one of those offices that doesn't get a lot of attention, and in fact there are at this point six candidates running for an at-large seat. Three at-large seats. Three at-large seats. Yes. Okay, so Aloha Bill. Aloha Marcia. Thank you as always for anybody that is new to us. I first met Bill when he was in charge of the wine at Boat Harbor, which was the job I wanted. But anyway, that's a different story. And he ran for governor, and what year was that? 2006. 2006. And nobody knew who this man was, but he was running for governor, and his whole thing was to talk about the homelessness and the people that he saw on a daily basis working on the Y&I coast, and which Linda Lingle won. But it bought the homelessness right up front, the attention right up front, and she did do something about it. She did. There were several homeless shelters that were constructed and put into place shortly after she got elected. So that was, it was a good feeling for me and the folks that supported me because things were happening. There was a result to the campaign. So, and since that time, you have been former chair, department of land and natural resources, commission on water resource management, native Hawaiian working group, past president, and on, and on, and on, neighborhood board, Hawaii invasive species, and tell me this, you were the head of the department of land and natural resources, as well as the chair of the commission. So you did the state water commission, as well as- No, but I meant the one that, the board of water, and I meant the board of land and natural resources. The board of land, yes. As well as there's a committee or commission or something within that. The board of natural resources is the statutory leadership for the department of land and natural resources. Oh, so you have both two seats? Yes. Okay. And as everyone knows, he's native Hawaiian, and he is running for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs. What exactly is the Office of Hawaiian Affairs? The Office of Hawaiian Affairs was actually created by the last constitutional convention that we had in 1978, but actually opened up for business in 1980. It is tasked with the betterment of native Hawaiians, and it's funded through the proceeds of per rate of share of the seeded lands revenue. And so it's been around for almost 30 years now. But what most non-Hawaiians don't understand is the Office of Hawaiian Affairs actually impacts everyone throughout the state in terms of either having good decisions on how we manage the state's resources or the water resources, because it plays an active role in participating on boards and commissions. But if there's not success, then it, through the Native Hawaiian Legal Corporation, will go to court to try to enforce some of the provisions in the Constitution that guarantees the streams have enough water to run and guarantees that the Department of Hawaiian Homeland has its fair share of water, as well as the municipal bodies throughout the state. And so it's sort of an agency that has oversight over how the state manages the resources for the betterment, not only of Native Hawaiians, but all people in the state of Hawaiians. Now you mentioned Hawaiian homelands, which you are deputy? Currently the deputy director. So you have these two entities. How do they work together? Because the Hawaiian homeland is a department within the state of Hawai'i. It is a state department that was created as a condition of statehood. So it was a federal program that was started in 1921. One of the issues that has sort of plagued it throughout the years is that when Prince Kohio and the sugar planters in the ranchers in Hawai'i were lobbying the Congress, 1921 to establish this program, there was a discussion about, well, who's a Native Hawaiian? Prince Kohio advocated for anyone that was one-thirty-second of the blood. The other side advocated for a hundred percent. And so as things often occur in Congress, there was a compromise. And the compromise is that anyone that's eligible to receive a lease from the Department of Hawaiian Homelands has to be at a minimum 50% of the native blood. And so that's caused, since the 1921, that's caused friction in the Hawaiian community and in the community in general, because we have a state department that has to, by law and by court cases since then, has to advocate for what we call the small N native Hawaiians, the 50%ers.  A small N is those with 50%. Or 50% or more is a small N. That's the small N, 50% and greater. The big N, I know it's confusing, the big N is anybody that's less than 50%. But it was not something that Hawaiians created, it was something that Congress created. Unfortunately, there are people in Washington, D.C. mostly, but a few here whose desire it is to remove any kind of affirmative action programs for any indigenous people are using that and trying to couch their argument as this is a race-based program. It is absolutely not. It is the reason that the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act came about is because Prince Kohio looked at what was happening to his people in light of the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom and in response to that went to Congress and in response to him going to Congress, Congress passed this law, cementing a political relationship and not a racial relationship. Yes, and for anyone that understands Congress, he was a member of Congress, but he couldn't vote. Correct. He was elected, but he did not have a vote. This was a territory and only people from states get to, even D.C., they have members, but they cannot vote. Even to today. Today. So, what is the biggest issue, or what do you think is the biggest issue for the Hawaiians today? And I don't mean the big N and the small N, none of that. Hawaiians as a people. I can tell you recently with the appointment of Judge Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court and his writings in the Rice vs. Cayetano case, he is a strong advocate for the disillusionment of any kind of affirmative action for first Native Hawaiians, then Native Alaskans, and then they'll go after Native Indians. The challenge for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, it is a state-created entity by Kan Kan. The Department of Hawaiian Homeland is a federally created entity, although what Congress gives, Congress can take it. Correct. So, today, the biggest challenge for Native Hawaiians in both programs, OHA and DHHL, as well as all funding for Native health, Native education, all of that is going to be challenged very soon, likely in court, because there's a feeling by the ultra-conservatives that they have an advantage and that they have a 5-4 split with the court-bending conservatively. Right. Right. So, I anticipate that there'll be some challenge to OHA first, possibly inclusive of the Office of DHHL and other programs that will be coming out shortly. And so, the challenge would be to the constitutionality of these programs. Okay. If we have a Kan Kan, would that be where? It would not, because OHA was created by a Kan Kan. Amen. But could the alt-right elect enough people to do away with? Yes. They could overcome in numbers the delegates at a Kan Kan and then make all kinds of changes to the state constitution, which could include gathering rights, water rights, the water code could be called into play, labor, all the successes over the last 50-plus years of labor in getting fair labor practices, all of those things could be challenged. Oh, that's so scary. That is so scary. So, what, now you're running for OHA. What would be your number one issue? Should you be elected? What would you like to see first? So day one is bringing back some civility to the board, because the board will have to operate in a very cooperative manner, consensus-building, in order to meet this challenge that's coming, this wave that is coming. First have to be able to talk to each other, not sue each other, and then move in the same direction and start planning. There has to be a plan A, a plan B, and a plan C. The native Alaskans have corporations. Hawaiians do not. What do you mean corporations? They have village sovereignty, and then they have corporations that deal with economic development. So that could be a way to park some of the resources. I'm not sure. We need to have a discussion with legal minds that are much smarter than me on what kind of options that could occur. Of course, federal recognition through the Department of Interior is another way that could help to offset this wave that's coming, because federal recognition would indicate that there is a, again, it would confirm that there's a political relationship and not a racial relationship. The challenge is going to be made that it's based on race-based. Now the last time that came up, federal recognition versus independence and what have you. And there were a whole lot of Hawaiians that didn't want federal recognition. They wanted something else. How do you get past that, or does that still exist? It still exists today. There are folks that have very strong convictions that independence is the way to go. I think that they are certainly welcome to their position. But with regards to this wave that's coming, they're going to have to make a decision. The decision is, am I going to stand in the way of protecting these resources that come to our families, or do I put this, do we do parallel tracks, do we do federal recognition as a way to strengthen and secure our standing while we go and seek independence? So you don't have to have one without the other. But getting them to understand it and see that has always been a challenge and will continue to be a challenge. So you will, but that would be your number one issue? My number one issue would be getting OHA, the board of trustees, in a position where it can actually have civil discussions and be in a position to take a look at what options are available. Okay. Well, we need to take a break. And when we come back, we'll talk some more about how you see OHA evolving from this point on. All right. Thank you. Hello. My name is Stephanie Mock, and I'm one of three hosts of Think Tech Hawaii's Hawaii Food and Farmer series. Our other hosts are Matt Johnson and Pamai Weigert. And we talk to those who are in the fields and behind the scenes of our local food system. We talk to farmers, chefs, restaurateurs, and more to learn more about what goes into sustainable agriculture here in Hawaii. We are on on Thursdays at 4 p.m., and we hope we'll see you next time. Aloha. My name is Mark Shklav. I am the host of Think Tech Hawaii's Law Across the Sea. Law Across the Sea is on Think Tech Hawaii every other Monday at 11 a.m. Please join me where my guests talk about law topics and ideas and music in Hawaii, Anna, all across the sea from Hawaii and back again. Aloha. I'm Marcia Joyner, and we are back with This Community Matters. We're talking today with OHA candidate Bill Isla. My dear friend, and you all know, we only talked to dear friends. Okay, we're talking about OHA today because Bill is a candidate for OHA. Now there are three seats open, and we all, everybody gets to vote for three. We get to pick three people out of six running for these seats. So, let's talk about the biggest thing that came up yesterday was the Supreme Court and this magnificent instrument at the top of the mountain that's going to see all the way back to the dark stars and what have you, all of this wonderful stuff. However, the issue is this telescope is on Hawaiian lands, sacred, what the Hawaiians say are sacred lands. So, where do we go from here? The court says that it does not interfere with Hawaiian sacred grounds. Where do we go from here? What the court ruled was after viewing volumes and volumes of information, studies, et cetera, is that the TMT basically had met all of the requirements and in the EIS and in the management plans had mitigated, or their plans would mitigate any negative impacts on traditional customary practices. One of the reasons that they came to that conclusion is that the site of this current TMT, proposed site of this current TMT telescope is in an area where there are no known burials, no known cultural sites. In fact, that's one of the reasons that after an exhaustive search of the mountain, that site was picked. How long has it been there? The telescope, the mountain or the telescope? The telescope. So, the telescope is yet to be built. No, I meant, but originally. Okay. So, the first telescopes on the mountain, I believe, went up in the 1930s. Actually, Prince Kinkalakawa actually went around the world, saw observatories and encouraged folks to come and build observatories on Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa because he was a king that was very much interested in knowledge, the gathering of knowledge. And that's very, I think it's very inside all of us as Native Hawaiians. The science that Native Hawaiians bring to discussions all the time is based on observation. And observation is not just as the individual that's alive today, but observations based upon five generations back where you get to talk to your great-great-great grandfather and they explain to you about decadal cycles and things like that. But you were speaking of, you were on the Hokulea early 1st? Nope. I've had a few sales with Hokulea, never anything far. But you were, so that was all about being guided by the stars. It was about finding out who we were as Hawaiians. What it evolved into is that we have all of these cousins across the Pacific. And I think with the latest voyage is now we have all of these second cousins throughout the Atlantic and the Indian Ocean and all the waters that surround the land. And we're all one people on one planet and that's what it's evolved to. But where I was going was that it seems to me that the addition of the observatories that can see, especially the new telescopes that can see way back before any time that we record would be an adjunct to that learning that you have gained at sea. And it's precisely why Kinkalakawa went out and asked people to come here to gain the knowledge because he was a knowledge seeker. He wanted his people to be knowledge seekers. But we have this challenge of how do you balance traditional customary practices with modern technology built on an area that some people consider sacred. Of course, if you're not from the big island, you may consider some place else on your island sacred. But here we are today, the Supreme Court has made its decision. When I was a chair of the Department of Land and Natural Resources, the board made the original decision to approve the building of the telescope. And it was precisely for the same reasons that based upon all the evidence that was put before us in terms of studies and things like that, it met the threshold to be approved. Unfortunately, there was a technicality in which we made the decision before a contested case was heard. That resulted in another round of contested cases. And then ultimately, the Supreme Court took a look at this additional evidence that was produced and made the decision. So there was one, it was a 4-1 decision. So it was not unanimous. Judge Mike Wilson is the opposing opinion. And so, but it is the law of the land now. It could be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. Oh, dear. That's a possibility, or they could ask for a reconsideration. No one knows right now, based upon press reports. The next step for TMT is to bring its building plans to the Department of Land and Natural Resources to get that approved before any construction could occur. So we're still looking at many, many months more before the first shovel goes in the ground, so to speak. Now, let's move on to some of the other issues that are before the Hawaiians, like health care and prison reform and all of those things that all of us deal with every day. However, it seems, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that I look at all of the Hawaiians that are living on the beach and we're building $2 million condominiums right across the street from the beach. That bothers me, and I'm not Hawaiian. But what about, how do we, I'm lost words now. How do we improve the life of the Hawaiians? The health care, it seems to me they're more of them in prison. They get bigger sentences for smaller infractions. Why do we deal with that issue? Because that is the way I see it, the biggest issue is the ordinary Hawaiians. So for the Office of Audit Affairs and what it can control, these issues are very complex and very long-standing, right? So one of the things that I would do as a new OHA trustee is make a better case, build better relationships with legislators. So OHA receives about $15.1 million as its current share of the seeded land revenue. Based upon studies that OHA has contracted for and information that we made available when I was a chair of the Department of Land and Natural Resources as to what seeded lands are being used and for what and what revenue is being generated, the true amount that is due OHA could be as high as $70 million. So having programs that deal with health, education, prisoner reform as they leave prevention so that we don't have replacements is really a function of revenue that you can apply. So by getting a fairer share of the seeded lands revenue, I think we could apply more resources which would be more successful at keeping Hawaiians healthy, keeping them out of jail if they're in jail, keeping them from going back to jail, as well as continuing to promote and fight for clean water and restoration of streams and clean air and access to traditional customary grounds to pick maile and the items that are necessary for traditional practices to continue. That is the biggest key right now. Because what can I say that seems that, and I don't understand why the Hawaiians suffer more from diabetes and these other issues than the rest of the population. I think poor people in general, not just Native Hawaiians, tend to have less access to fresh food and higher quality food. Poor people tend to go and eat the Spam and the luncheon meat and the Vienna sausage, which is a function of cost. So if we can bring the cost down of fresh fruits and vegetables, maybe grow more taro, so people could eat more taro. Or grow more food, period. Here, right, in Hawaii rather than bringing it in from someplace else. So there's good movement to that as a board member and the past president of the Ma'o Farms, a regular percentage of the crops that were grown, healthy food was made available to the community and we need more programs like that. O'aha can do a lot more in stretching the money that it has by partnering with other state agencies, other federal agencies, other county agencies. So going forward, some possible ways of O'aha stretching its money to deal with homeless, for example, we'd be to partner with Hawaii Housing Authority, HHFDC, to build more units. The Department of Hawaiian Homeland to reduce more people off the wait list, because in any Hawaiian home that has a small N on the as a less E, you will find children, grandchildren, who are not the small N, but the big N. So the more that we can do for the big N's to build houses, the more of the small N's, the more the little N's get to get off the street and have a roof over their head and hopefully food on the table. And so it's O'aha, DHHL, and other agencies getting together. That's the solution. Okay, now I want you to look right into this camera, this one. That one. And tell us why we should vote for you. I think I have a lot. I think I know I have the experience. I know I have the desire. I know I have the Kuliana to make things better for Native Hawaiians. I've operated that way all my life. Many of the fishing rules and regulations that are in place. I've had a role along with other people. Rain follows the forest. All of these programs that are looking at restoring watershed so that in the future, as the rain gets less and less, we're able to have enough drinking water to go around for everyone. Just my whole life has been about service. And so the offering of this candidacy is another step in that service, because I see rough times ahead. And I want to be part of navigating and sailing through those rough times. Well, thank you so much. And good luck with this election. And you'll come back after the election and tell us what you're doing. Okay. Okay, thank you. Aloha, and we'll see you next time.