Hello everyone. Welcome to our case study. My name is Stefan Ebers. I am working for Bosch IO. And I'm Sven Erich Joszeski, also working for Bosch IO. We both participate in a study inside Bosch and also in a more like a project that is trying to find the way forward for Bosch in the context of embedded Knudel Linux. So we want to give you a little bit of a background what the situation is with Bosch so you understand what is behind this project. So the internet of things is actually something that's really important for Bosch because we have a lot of things that we are producing one way or the other in the different domains in mobility, in industry, in building and kind of consumer goods. So that is all important for us and all these devices are becoming these days connected, which is actually a big change. As part of this project we have done some polls inside Bosch and to identify what actually the situation is and what the amount of devices is that we are talking about. And it turned out that in 2025 we can expect that Bosch is actually producing more than 15 million devices per year based on Linux, which is quite a big number. And all these different devices are actually right now they're not done with one way or one type of Linux distribution or anything like that. Many of them are done in different ways. So now we have the big challenge that we have to find out how should we go into the future and how should we do that in the future. And we realized talking to many other companies we are not the only one. Many have exactly this challenge, a rising number of devices based on Linux and also the connection of the devices to the internet. So like let's first have a look at how the approach is with embedded software creation. So for that Sven will tell us a little bit about it. Sven. Thank you Stefan for this nice introduction. So what I will tell you in the next couple of minutes is the situation that we perceived during our project in a couple of different embedded software projects like the creation of software for those devices. So of course since this is a case study this is more like a generalization of the different topics but since this is what we're aiming for with this talk. So the first thing that you typically come across when you have these embedded software projects is you have six different layers. So the first layer that you can see on the left hand side of the slide is the hardware support. So this starts with the hardware and also how is the hardware supported in software. So mainly drivers are included in the mainline kernel. How do I do that? Do I need to write my own drivers? All the things. Next level would be the software base system. So the question is what is the actual base of the foundation of my software running on the system? If you go up to the next layer you sometimes have an on software which is still more like a non-infrastructural level for instance integrating this different software distribution mechanisms but it's a bit above the base layer. So this way we differentiate here with the add-on software. The thing that's now coming more into this project is also the layer of runtime services. So with the approach of IoT or Internet of Things devices you have to take more care of integrating your devices with overall architecture, be it in the cloud or some other systems. So you need some clients on your devices to integrate with those backends and this can be substituted with runtime. And a really important thing in which sometimes tends to be forgotten is the question of tooling. So to enable developers to do all the other layers that I just mentioned in a really nice and efficient and maybe even fun manner. So looking at the embedded software project now but the task of the developers in this project and also the managers and product designers and everyone else is to deliver a specific device and a specific solution to the customer that somehow differentiates on the market and somehow has benefit for the customer in the end. And the way they do it they have this embedded software project trying to take all the different components from third parties, self-developed, maybe open source, maybe not open source and try to integrate this in the embedded software project. So it's a huge task to actually come up with this whole integration and selection and making sure that everything fits together to then come up with the device software. So the software that's actually running on the device beats the firmware. Nowadays also included with an update mechanism which is really important how to integrate it on software, backing clients and obviously also how to provide the extra functionality, the actual value to the customer which then works on top of all these layers that I just mentioned here. Another thing which sometimes tends to be forgotten a bit when you just talk about technology, this also needs to be more in a compliant manner so that you really know which components are in your system that you can track so that you can react to vulnerabilities but you also know that all the license requirements are met in your software so this is also that you have to take care of. So going to the next slide, this is a situation that those development teams typically tend to find themselves in. So they have to focus on something of course every time you need to focus but the question is what is the thing you focus on and in a typical project that we've seen you tend to focus on the build phase and this is the phase of actually creating the thing or the device or what you try to create in a more short-term way with a specific deadline in mind. So in our case often this deadline has been called SOP or start of production. So by that day it's the day you start producing your devices and you also start sending them out to your customers. You have to make sure that the software is up and running in a stable way. So this is one of your main short-term goals so you start maybe again with the whole project you try to control your costs also for your hardware that you get into so then you also have to try to somehow differentiate with your competitors to bring more value to your customers. So this way you also focus on these features and also I mean many developers love to develop features. They love to develop new things so they tend to also go into this feature development scene. So one way to achieve this during the whole build thing is that you try to make use of your local flexibility so you try to avoid external dependencies because you don't want to talk to external to align with external communities be it really in the open world be it with another department be it with another division it's always more flexible to just do it on your own machine like works on my machine so works on my device works on my concrete example or specific example but this is perfectly fine if you build something up but you end up with a couple of risks and these risks many of those can be summarized with one term which would be maintenance. So once you have your product in place you still need to focus and need another focus which would be now the maintenance and this sometimes maybe not that much fun than building something because we already have it but you still need to spend a lot of effort in developing your software technology and also the software on your device so you otherwise you might end up in a situation where you plan something where you build something like a house and it completely changes the purpose or its behavior or how it looks like over time and this is something that you have to react on or maybe in some cases also you have to prevent this from happening because otherwise you have a lot of effort to follow this. So one approach to do this would be reusing results to also share this maintenance and also to make sure that new specific components fit in the overall evolving ecosystem so this is kind of difficult sometimes because as I said earlier to gain flexibility it's often easier to solve your problems locally so this might end in the situation that you saw some redundancy so there's another benefit in actually upstreaming these changes or these developments that you made to get more in a core development mode which is obviously hard if you don't focus on the maintenance but if you actually tend to focus on the build phase because after your first device you just continue building the next device and the next device and over years you have a larger stack of things that you want to or would need to work on but you kind of miss a focus to go into this maintenance track and actually do the things in a proper upstreamed manner. So maybe coming into one reason or situation why this is difficult to shift this focus is on our next slide just one slide here you go it's get out in the shoes of a product team starting a new production and what they typically have they go into a room and decide okay we do things like this using these features and we estimate a certain number or capacity or cost or time or however you want to measure that for specific things and often you tend to underestimate certain efforts if you're more focused on the build phase one thing is the effort for the actual system integration and system development so every team every developer is developing a single component but now you don't have enough time or resources to do the actual integration the nitty gritty details of getting everything run on the device again also in a compliant manner. This even becomes a harder topic if you go to the Internet of Things because with the Internet of Things you definitely increase the attack surface to your devices by a lot because now basically everyone somewhere has access to the internet has greater access to your device so you really want to make sure that these people cannot get into your device because no one wants your light bulb taking part in a DDoS attack while you sit in a during room so that's something that sometimes can be underestimated especially even in the long run if you talk about the maintenance again over the whole product life cycle which is also one of the another risks in general that you tend to neglect these long-term effects because you first want to come up with some features and some value in the first place and then it's also often underestimated how much effort you have actually to spend into maintaining those proprietary elements or those differentiating features or those features that you consider differentiating but in the long run you maybe come up with the observation that all the effort that you have to spend to adapt to the changing system environment around you is maybe not the benefit that you get out of that but this is something that you just realize when it's maybe too late or later on so maybe to come up with a comparison it's few sometimes it's people in this room plan for an 800 meters run they know the goal it's some revisable we need a lot of things to do but it's you can do it in a fast pace and once they reach the finish line they realize actually the finish line is 10k so it's almost 10 times the distance so we have to go all the maintenance we have to shift our focus to being more in an endurance and reliable mode and once you come to this realization you might come up with and no one wants people to become frustrated but so we need to find a way to avoid such a situation we just drown in all these different issues of keeping up with updates of all these different dependencies be it something that you got from an external distributor be it just be it an open source project be it something that you bought somewhere be it some outdated components be it that you maybe underestimated the effort for system integration that I just mentioned and this even has increased this feeling or the situation because you missed out on the opportunity to share this topics like to share this complexity to share this effort or to go in a mode of co-innovation because early on you lost your focus on the maintenance or did not have the time and the maybe also the reasons to shift in this maintenance mode and this is definitely a risk that you can run into again I'm not saying that every project is always going this path but there's the possibility and we have seen it sometimes in some ways so this was enough for us to come to this conclusion that we might need to change things in this front and in this regard and to come up with a project on how to change this how the system development is done and how to enable the developers from these really specific teams again they really focus on their domain and their device to come on this more collaborative mode and to enable them in their work and the the progress that we have made during that process that's something that Stefan will talk about in the next minute. Yeah thank you Sen that was a very good and detailed description of like all the problems that we identified that I think not only Bosch but the typical industrial companies are facing these days was embedded devices. So you have to keep in mind like if you're someone that have done a lot of open source development that still a lot of this embedded software development for specific devices is done behind closed doors like on this slide on this picture it's because they're very focused on getting things done before the actual production of the device starts. So and we have been thinking about how can we actually face this shift that it's becoming more and more important that the maintenance is done in an efficient way and not only focus on the build part of the device with this very complex situation coming up as described and for us it become more and more aware looking at that and opening up this process and do it more in a collaborative way inside and also outside of the company might be a good way out and so we were thinking about like what how can you actually foster this collaboration and what does it actually need? That was like one of our intermediate results and we would love of course to hear your feedback about all this but yeah we just want to show you what now for us at the moment is the current result. So internal needs to actually foster the collaboration how can we do that and what does it need? We came to the conclusion that a cross-divisional service organization would actually help because it's bringing these different projects closer together and helping them to find synodity, she's between shared parts so meaning if one project is using something and the other project is using the same thing if there is like a service organization that would help either even external or internal one both is possible and also it would help if such a service organization would be there that a new project can start on all the things that already have been understood that it needs to be done like one way or the other or in particular for the corresponding situation so that they can just start faster and also all the tooling that you need which is quite a lot if you just look at testing or like all the different ways to store the code or also do the integration and all these things it's quite a bit already and also to maintain that and set that up is actually it's quite some work so that would also help if there would be an infrastructure as long as it fits of course we always have to make sure that each individual project are not let's say put too much in a box meaning that they lose the ability to just use and set up what they need and so that is very much important that you keep that in mind. A second thing is that there is already in these big companies a lot of knowledge and know-how around these topics but it's really hard to get that coordinated that actually this is shared across all the different parts of a big organization and spread and that would help to do that to do a coordinated approach to make that more like help this Linux community inside a company like ours to do that. A third measure or a third me is actually what we think the more coordinated participation in the Linux ecosystem so there needs to be ways or we need to find ways to foster that to push that and we are also looking at that externally we were looking at three different things so externally the goal I think of not only of us but of many is now how to improve this IIT support for Linux devices and this is like there are these three dimensions that always come up it's hardware support and software and tooling and the goal that would be great is actually to get in different areas an improvement that is wonderful one is like transparency for example through certification that it's becoming obvious like when you have for example a certain service provider for example in which way he is making sure that all the results all the changes that he's doing to the corresponding open source software is actually getting upstream or how he is providing for example if it is a hardware vendor how he is providing the corresponding drivers in the main line kernel or anything like that so that it's becoming easy to maintain that over time another thing of course is standardization so the entire embedded Linux area there is still a lot of room to standardize the things so it's becoming easy on introducing the complexity for the individual projects of course it would also be great if many of the things that are done redundantly currently for many reasons if we find ways to share that and make it more efficient the same is true for testing one thing that is turned out to be really important is traceability so that you know exactly what component is on which device or where this is coming from and that that you can do that and handle it on a large scale that is helping a lot for if you for example use a linux distribution or instead of like doing it very customized for each individual and the eyes the other thing is when you do that then you have components and you can share the metadata for the corresponding components and like handle that in a larger scale manner for example with licenses and vulnerabilities and the third one is the for future devices so when something new is coming up it would be great that it's easier for an out of the box solution that are like already following and doing all these things with Bosch we use something and develop something that's called a purchase that is to a certain extent fulfilling our needs and we already also published it on a website like a purchase.org but we don't expect that everyone like is like happy with that one but like anyone who is interested of course can use it on the other hand we think that is something that would be useful in general and what we heard from many other companies are doing actually something like that they have developed something like that that is helpful and doing it for new devices is like a great way to do it. A second part of the results is that we that all this what I just discussed opening up more doing more collaboration in this way what we think what is needed is actually for a company like ours and cultural change in many areas and if you want to do it this way it's has certain requirements you need strategic goals so you get the corresponding funding and the corresponding support management attention and also the corresponding time so like open source goals need to become the strategic goals to support the corresponding business goals and the developers need to have the time to learn the skills and do the corresponding things that are enabling them to do this new to do these things in this new kind of manner in this new culture and of course they also have to struggle with certain barriers that they need to overcome so it's also important that they give this that they get this time and that they get the corresponding support to overcome that because it means doing that in this different kind of way working more out there in the open in this open source communities that they have to leave through their comfort zone for something unknown so far and also it is because it's new somehow uncertain what does the corresponding actions have for consequences for them and also for the company so it is like it takes some times to do these changes so this cultural change is something that is really difficult in general like every cultural change in the big company is something that takes times and also takes energy and patience I think from what we've seen it it would be worth it to do that so how can we do that concrete in detail so what would be first steps towards that we also thought about that and establishing the participation in the open source community as a new normal it would take these concrete measures here train the open source skills encourage open source activities like incentive wise and also like yeah instead of making it hard to go into corresponding conflicts and giving talks and visiting the events making it easy and also providing the corresponding experimenters from externals or when you have them hire them and also have them internally and of course removing the various that we just talked about the third thing that we came to that we think would help is actually what we call something like an industrially great minox at least that's what we think meaning introducing something like two additional layers between these upstream software that is there and the embedded software project we already have in many cases in many projects already a service provider that is helping us to do many things like for example in the open source space and so that is already there but in many cases what we see is actually the things that we are doing are actually not really um getting to the corresponding upstream projects or it's getting somehow lost or the next project has to start in you that's the reason why we think it might be really helpful to have something like another open source community that is focusing very much on the embedded linux area for example we see something like civil infrastructure project which is already a great thing and there are also many other activities but we think there's still something missing and it would be interesting to talk about how if this is true and how if this is true and many people think like that how we can close this gap yeah so that is more or less like what we have learned and I hope this is helpful for other people and we would love to discuss that thing and we thank you a lot for giving you giving us your attention and so if you have any feedback and if you want to discuss we would love to hear so actually we also asked some of our colleagues if they could give us like a little statement or like what they think like they're sharing their experience so that it's all not only us we are just representing some people out of this context and so we will add this to this video two statements that we got we like them we hope you like it too and yeah Sven if you have anything to add you can also like bring that out now anything thank you very much as the only thing I would like to add is I'm really looking forward to making developing linux based devices even more fun and also maybe even more efficient so looking forward to the journey yeah and again I already said it but I cannot emphasize it this enough we would really love to hear from you we would love to discuss this with you if hearing your insights your understanding maybe what we said you don't share this you it would be interesting to hear what you see differently but also of course when you say think yes this is true this is also an interesting feedback so please contact us and have a nice open source summit thank you bye hi I'm Chris from Bosch Power Tools I'm software architect here and I want to share some experience that I made during the last years of linux development within Bosch so some years ago we started as an organization to shift from microcontroller based software development to linux processor based software development while this was quite new to us we tried in the beginning to create our own images from scratch and we had to build up all this build infrastructure and all this open source disclosure stuff and everything and we recognized after I think one or two years we recognized it is much more than just hacking some software together because there's so much process and everything that you need and we recognized that we need some additional help and we tried to get in contact with external partners and to contract something but this was also not maybe the right thing for us so we tried to join forces within Bosch itself and this was definitely a game changer at that time because on on one hand of course it was a cost sharing that we had but what we actually did was we were jumping on a platform of a bigger part inside Bosch who had had the same experience in the past and they were very open to help us and what was nice about their platform approach was the part that being Debian system which helped us to get very quick and rapid prototyping a part of that was that they had this open source mindset so it was not this typical industry style platform where you have lots of requirements engineering in the beginning and then you form a platform and everybody has to take it and it was the other way around it was true open source it was like there is something you can take it you can adapt it you can upstream it back you are always able to deliver you don't have to wait for anything and this was a true game changer this change in mind from this stiff platform development approach one fits all to this idea of being open for multiple different requirements or multiple different units having completely different work styles but still having one aggregate where you can upstream and this was really great so we after half a year we were able to get really into production mode and to do our products and now we have our first products in market working on this platform and this is great so the key message of this is be open for open source even if you are industry and industry and open source fits very well together but it's don't try to adapt open source to your industry style working but try to adapt your industry style working to open source style it's much much more agile you can read so much thank you hi i'm dick as a project manager i'm responsible for an ecosystem for iot development based on embedded linux and now i'm going to show you where i live i live close to a forest i love to live here and this this is my fence it is important to protect my property by a fence and additionally i have nero my german shepherd at my property nero and me we have clear rules for the family and the guests outside in the forest it is different the forest is open and you never know who you meet or what you will discover there for the all the forest is an opportunity to meet other dogs or to hunt deer and i like to meet people of my community people who love dogs and love the forest in early june i crossed this fence and met a neighbor she told me about the doctor where a family vaccination was possible on short notice my family got vaccinated after two days and we enjoyed our summer holidays with full covid protection what would have happened or not happened if i was not in touch with my neighbor behind the fence okay behind the fence it might be uncertain have you ever heard about wild boars wild pigs living in the forest however i see a lot of chances more chances than risks and this is the reason why we are now going to cross the fence nero come cross the fence


Personal Finance PowerPoint Presentation. Point of Service POS Plan. Prepare to get financially fit by practicing personal finance. Remember that insurance is part of our comprehensive risk mitigation strategy where we use the adage of measure twice cut once. We're gonna put a plan in place, formal plan looking something like, set the insurance goals, develop a plan to reach those goals, put your plan in action, review the results and then we will repeat the process periodically. We're now looking at the point of service to POS plans. Most of this information can be found at Investopedia, point of service POS plans, which you can find online. Take a look at the references, resources, continue your research from there. This is by Julia Kagan, updated March 10th, 2022. What is a point of service plan, a POS plan? Note, we've been talking about different kinds of insurance here when we're looking at the health insurance. It could be a bit more complex because of the nature of the health insurance industry and the regulations around it, as well as the insurance. We could think about insurance from a classical kind of sense, comparing it to other kinds of insurance, such as property insurance, for example, where we often insure against an event that might happen in the future, but which we will hope will not happen, which might have a low risk of happening, such as a house burning down. If it were to happen, it would be a financial hardship for us, and therefore we might want to insure against something like that happening with the health insurance. We have a similar situation where we could come up down with a disease, which would be very financially devastating that we would want to insure against, but we also have the insurance that could be expanded to cover more routine type of maintenance kind of things that could be expanded as well. So we have these different kind of reasons for the insurance on the medical side and different laws and regulations related to them. We're going through some of the different kind of categories of insurance so that we can better wrap our minds around some of our decision-making options. So what is a point of service POS plan? A point of service POS plan is a type of managed care health insurance plan that provides different benefits depending on whether the policy holders uses in-network or out-of-network health care providers. So we've got the HMOs and the PPOs which you might be most familiar with. Those are the two kind of you could think of them if you're looking at a spectrum, you might think of them at the end of the spectrums and then you could think about the other plans which might not be as familiar, but are possibly you can think of them in some area along the spectrum in terms of the benefits versus and the flexibilities versus the cost between the PPO and HMO. So a POS plan combines features of the two most common health insurance plans, those being the health maintenance organization, that's the HMO and we have the preferred provider organization, the PPO. The POS plans represent a small share of the health insurance market. So notice when you're looking at the most common kinds of plans you're usually looking at the PPO which is kind of I think the one that's been around the longest and then the HMO which has more restrictions and then the POS is an attempt to be kind of a hybrid so it might not be the most as many of them on the market and you might take that into consideration and think about well, can it really do that? Can it really take the best of both worlds? Has it been, has its test record been proven that it's a viable or good kind of middle option that might be one thing that you kind of consider? So most policy holders have either HMO or PPO plans. So how a point of service plan POS works. A POS plan is similar to an HMO. It requires the policy holder to choose an in-network primary care doctor and obtain referrals from that doctor if they want the policy to cover a specialist's services. So the HMO you'll recall is a bit more restrictive but sometimes that restrictions can actually be good because they actually point you or force you and basically to use the primary care physician which is your point person that directs you then to other people such as the specialist. So you have a similar kind of thing with the POS point of service situation although you have a bit more flexibility with it. And a POS plan is like a PPO in that it still provides coverage for out-of-network services but the policy holder will have to pay more than if they used in-network services. So you got a bit more flexibility than the HMOs to go out-of-network. However, the POS plan will pay more toward an out-of-network service if the primary care physician makes a referral than if the policy holder goes outside network without a referral. So now you've got, okay, does the point person, my primary care physician have to direct me somewhere? Well, I'd still like you to. They're trying to incentivize them to do so by lowering in essence the cost but not particularly required although you might pay more if you go out-of-network without being directed to do so by the primary care physician. So the premiums for a POS plan fall between the lower premiums offered by the HMO and the higher premiums of the PPO. That's what we would expect because the PPO traditionally is thought to have more flexibility with what you could do. HMOs being more restrictive, the more restrictions helps to minimize the costs which lowers the premiums on the HMO versus the PPO. And if we have a POS then that's somewhere in the middle with regards to its restrictions and its flexibility, you would expect the premiums to be somewhere in the middle. So the POS plans require the policy holder to make co-payments but in-network co-payments are often just 10 or 25 per appointment. So they're gonna set the co-payment at the dollar amount here and they look reasonable. POS plans also do not have deductibles for in-network services which is a significant advantage over the PPO's. So those deductibles being the hurdle that you gotta pay sometimes. And if you go over that amount that's when the insurance kind of kicks in that's more the classical kind of insurance model oftentimes. So the POS plans offer nationwide coverage which benefits patients who travel frequently. So it's nice that if you're on vacation and you have a problem that you can visit someone even though you're not in your current local network and you have more flexibility possibly under the POS than the HMO. A disadvantage is that out-of-network deductibles tend to be high for the POS plans. When a deductible is high, it means that the patients who use out-of-network services will pay the full cost of care until they reach the plans deductible. A patient who never uses a POS plans out-of-network services probably would be better off with an HMO because of its lower premiums. So if you're using the out-of-network if you're traveling a lot then the ability to have the POS with a more flexibility might be useful but you'll still have the higher deductibles possibly so it still might cost more if you're able to use your local network that would be assigned to you and you don't have this problem of needing more flexibility then the HMO might be better because it would be cheaper. So disadvantages of the POS plans. Though the POS plans combine the best features of the HMOs and the PPOs, they hold a relatively small market share. So this could be concerning. I mean, you might say, like if you talk to someone about an HMO and a PPO and they have medical knowledge, they're gonna say, ah, yeah, I recognize that. If you talk to the normal person about a POS then that might not totally register and that could be kind of a problem because especially if you're having medical conditions it'd be nice to be able to talk and it also just hasn't been as time tested as the other two. So, but it's a hybrid of the two so maybe the things that they're doing have kind of been tested. So in any case, one reason may be that POS plans are marketed less aggressively than the other plans. Pricing also might be an issue though POS plans can be up to 50% cheaper than the PPO plans, premiums can cost as much as 50% more for the HMO premiums. So that might be one of the reasons you might be saying, well, if someone really, truly wants flexibility and the cost isn't as much of a problem, an obstacle, they might just go, I'm just going PPO on that one. That's what my desire is. If people are saying I want the low cost here and still have a network and whatnot, they're gonna go for the HMO. Maybe you don't have as many people that are kind of in the middle. But I still think that that might be because it hasn't really taken hold yet because when you look at normal pricing conditions, if you were to look at, say, I was gonna purchase something online, people usually pick the one that costs in the middle because that's the one that they would think would be, you know, giving them the reasonable price. So it's kind of interesting the way it plays out. So while the POS plans are cheaper than the PPO plans, plan details can be challenging, the policies can be confusing and many consumers don't understand how the associated costs work.  That's pretty straightforward. And if you're going to the PPO, you're basically saying I'm gonna do more, have more flexibility to do what I want. If you try to combine those rules together, it gets a little bit confusing. You know, you got more rules and stuff or what's gonna be my deductible if I'm here versus there. So that might be a bit more confusing. Read the plan documents especially carefully and compare them to other choices before deciding whether this is the best option. So special consideration at point of service, a POS plan is a type of health insurance plan that provides different benefits depending on whether the policy holder visits in network or out of network healthcare providers. The POS plans generally offer lower costs than other types of plans, but they may also have a much more limited set of providers. It is possible to see out of network providers with a POS plan, but costs may be higher and the policy holder is responsible for filing, filling out all the paperwork for the visit. The POS plans can be up to 50% cheaper than preferred provider organization as the PPO plans. Premiums can cost as much as 50% more than health maintenance organization plans. So it's somewhere in the middle you can think about the line here and you've got the PPO's, the PPO's and the HMO's. I'll just put an H and then we're talking somewhere in the middle with regards to the cost and the flexibility. So in some ways the POS plans combine the best features of HMO and PPO plans, but you will need to check whether this type of plan works for you. So we might be able to just visualize this as a spectrum where we have the traditional PPO's versus the HMO's, the PPO's typically being more flexible but also being more costly, the HMO's being less costly, less flexible and then you got the POS attempting to get the best of both worlds in the middle and obviously our question would be are they actually getting the best of both worlds? Might be one way to kind of generalize how you're thinking of it and then of course we need to think about our own individual needs just to think about which of these categories would be where we want to narrow our focus.


When mighty army, mighty army meets, the Titan struggle knows no limitation. Small victories, large stalemates, small defeats led to the final triumph for our nation, led to this day, our VE celebration. Today we pause that struggle to retell. We cast our minds to 1945 when soldiers, sailors, Air Force personnel strove to keep freedom and liberty alive, ours to ensure these shall forever thrive. And these were common folk, like friends we know. On land, in air, at sea, they joined the strife, melded together to face a common foe. They freely gave their all in prime of life. For them we bang the drum and play the fife. We mark their sacrifice. For those who fell we mourn, nor lightly do we weep. Those who returned again, their tale to tell, their memory forever we should keep with praise profound and gratitude most deep. And what of those still living on this day? They most at risk now in this new world war. We thank them and for their health we pray.  Our joy is tempered in this celebration. A different army fights a different foe. You too we honor in this commemoration, your bravery and fighting spirit show. You too for us face pain and death and woe. This is VE Day. We celebrate defeat of bigotry, intolerance and force.  Victory is hard. Our joy is cut with pain. We must recall the vanquished too were men. But for today triumphant be our strain, remembering all who fought in that great then. So let today and every day be when we will remember them.


In this video I will show you 6 very useful AliExpress extensions which will help you to do dropshipping from AliExpress to any site and will serve you a lot of time. So let's go over the extensions. The first extension is the AliExpress product images downloader. So if we go to Google, we write AliExpress products images downloader. We will see here the first result. We will just download this extension and install it. Now when I go to AliExpress, I can go to any product and here I will have two new buttons. The first one is this one and the second one is this one. This button will download all of the images of the variations here. So actually if I click here, then I will open the folder where all these images will be downloaded. Let's wait a few seconds. Okay, cool. Here you can see that we have all of the variations images. The second thing is this button. This button will download all of these images and also the images which we have here. So it's much more images and in this way we can just take these images create a collage from them, edit these images and then we can be much more unique when we upload our products to eBay or to any other e-commerce store. So this is the first very useful extension for worshipping from AliExpress. The second extension called E-Packet Identifier. So let's go to Google E-Packet Identifier. Not this one. I forgot here the E. So let E-Packet. This is the extension E-Packet Identification. So when I download this extension, I will have it here on my AliExpress. So when I go to AliExpress, I can write here T-Share. And then I can see here that now all of the products get this title here. No E-Packet, no E-Packet to United States. The prices. So usually I suggest to work only with products which have E-Packet. So all these products which don't have, we will not work with them as they are irrelevant. So this extension will save us a lot of time to go inside the products and then check here what's going on. So instead of go here and check if the product has E-Packet or not, we can know it even outside of the product. So it's very useful and there is a time saver. The third extension is extension which called Price Blink. Price Blink is extension which I recommend to everyone to have for any site that you work with. Price Blink Chrome extension. The Price Blink Chrome extension is extension which will show you if you have any coupons available for this site. So sometimes AliExpress release some coupons and in this way using this extension you will see here in the top of the screen that you can apply a coupons. So for now they don't have any coupons but if for example I go to other site like Banggood, we will have that for example for Banggood we always have here a lot of different coupons. So I really recommend to install this extension, it's free and it will help you a lot. You see here we have 20 coupons for Banggood. It's a lot of money that we can save. The third extension called AliTools. So let's find the extension on Google. AliTools extension. This one, the first one AliTools. So if you have this extension installed you will have here this line. So what we can see here? The first thing is that we can see if the seller is trustful. We can see if this seller is good. We can see for example this seller is a new comer six months on the platform. We can see that this seller is a bit new seller on AliExpress. We can also see that 6% of the buyers doesn't like the products from this seller. So maybe we don't want to work with this seller. So it will help us with the product research because we will not only take a look on the feedbacks here, but we will also take a look here. The other amazing thing with this extension is that we have here the price. So if for example we see that the price is always like 12.59. And then when we bought the price there was a peak like this for example 24.68. So we can contact our seller, our actually AliExpress seller and ask for the previous price. This usually works very well on AliExpress because the seller won't work with you.  It's not always working but usually it works and it works very fine. So I really recommend you to check before you make the purchase if this product has any other price before, any other cheaper price before which was stable. If the price wasn't stable it will not help you but if the price is stable like in this product for example, so we can contact the seller and request the cheaper price. The next extension is actually our extension, the Autodesk Helper. So we just need to go to Google Autodesk Helper. Go to the first result here and just install this extension. This extension will save you a lot of time on some other things. The first one is that let's say that you like any category. For example t-shirts category because this is what sells well in your store and your clients are buying from you these niche products. So I will go to this page, open the extension and here I have the extract button. Now let's say that I sold a product from any specific niche. I want to maximize my profits on this specific niche. This is the best technique now to find products and this is what works the best because you just maximize the profits from the same niche. You don't need to search for other niches or other products. You just need to take more products from the same niche. So I will click here extract and I will get all of the products from this page. Now I can go to the next page, click extract here also and then I can just export SCSV and upload all of these products including all of their variations to my monitor, actually to Autodesk but you can use it for any other monitor. The other thing with this extension with Autodesk Helper is that you can go and when you purchase a product, one second, when you go to buy the product, any of the product I just logged into my account so you will have here, when you edit the others, you will have the bottom of the paste others. In this way I can easily paste the others and then I can very very easily make the order much faster and much easier. The last extension which I would recommend you for any side that you are working with and actually for anything that you do in your business it's very very very comfortable and very easy to use and very a time saver. So this extension called Google Keep. So Google Keep Chrome extension. This is the extension. Just download this extension, log into your Google account, to your Gmail account and then you will have here in the top the extension. Now if I click on the extension, I write here any node that I want for example a good t-shirt to sell, found that the price is very good. Then I can label it with the good products and it's saved now to my Google Keep. Now I can open it in my Google Keep and you will see here all of the products which you saved before here is another one and another one and another one. This is very comfortable because it already took the link automatically for you so then you can very easily find this product and this way you can save products for later, make your market research and then just go and upload all of these products together without any headcash of finding them or save it in any other text external files or something like this. Everything will be inside your browser. I hope that you liked this video. Don't forget to subscribe, write down in the comments if you have any other useful extensions so other people will learn from you. See you in the next videos, bye-bye.


That is, well, it's the biggest book that I've ever come across on the show that I've ever had a cause to read and review and discuss on the show. It's called The Road to Glen Law, as in Glen Law, Glen Collin Kill. And it's written by Chris D. Gillespie, who I think is originally from, I don't know, I find out now in just a segment, I think originally from that part of the world, but lives here, just practically down the road here at Corleys or across the road. Anyhow, Christy's here in the studio with me. Christy, good afternoon to you. Hello, John. How are you? Good. You are originally from Glen Collin Kill? No, I'm not. No, I'm next door and killed car. And if you had to say that years ago, when the football was gone, that would not be a good start. But close enough, close enough. Yeah, fair enough. The Road to Glen Law. Now, let's let's deal with the issue of the size, first of all, because, you know, I'm looking at this book and I'm thinking, you know, you need to be mad to bring out a book that size. But, but then I was looking through it yesterday and it's very accessible because to the casual observer, it looks daunting. But you know what, even if you have a passing interest in the area, in Irish history, in art history, and, you know, a couple of the subjects I've dealt with, like Rockwell-Canton's won't. This is perfect because I don't know what it, maybe it's the writing, maybe it's the photographs, maybe it's the way it's all laid out. But it is, it's for a huge book, it's very accessible. Yeah. Well, it's actually when you put numbers on it, it's 684 pages and there's 900 images in it. And Una Matheson, the head librarian, said to me last week, now, I don't know whether this is right or not, but it's the biggest book was ever produced on EGLE. But well, believe it. Yeah. But I mean, the history of the valley is so vast and so interesting that it had to be done a certain way. And I suppose the central character in the book is Rockwell-Canton, who was in the 20s and 30s, maybe the most famous and saleable artist in America. And one of the big things for me when I started out in the book was to try and track his Irish artworks from all over the world. There was around the hundred. And so, you know, it was important to get all of those into the book. But a fellow called Anthony de Lap, I'm sure a lot of the listeners would know him well, Anthony came up to collect his book last week. He couldn't wait for the book launch. And when he lifted it, he said, God, the last time I lifted a book this heavy, I was an altar boy. Well, give people an idea of just how big it is. Yeah. And the last, the only book you were mentioned there, just off the only book, like in person in size, would have been the one that came out and two years back for the the what is it called revolution? One of them was the Atlas of the Revolution. The other was the Atlas of the Irish famine. Don't be the Cork University press. And in that same stable, you would have you would have the likes of the Atlas of Donegal as well. So it's it's in that size. And it's also in that style as well, you know, a very uncluttered style where the images had to be high quality. And I suppose what I was always trying to do with the designers of the book at the time was to make sure that the images flow with the text because what drives me crazy.  Well, that just drives always drove me in sale. It is annoying. Yeah. So none of that. None of that, Gary. None of that at all. And you've got a you've got a lot of pictures, obviously of Rockwell Kent's art, but you also have a lot of pictures from from the area from, you know, Glenn Law and just the wider area, Tealon and Glen Columnkill from way back from like the the thirties and forties and even earlier. I mean, Rockwell Kent himself took some photographs when he was there. He did. Well, I suppose when we set out on the book first and I worked very hard with brown printers from day one and Seamus Brown and all there were fantastic. But I worked with the designer, Annapolec, and we kind of felt for moment one that the book had to be very visual and for two reasons, really. To my mind, I think Glenn Law's the most beautiful place in Ireland. It's very inaccessible, but it's on the kind of the same scale as Sleeve League, but the only difference being it's two hours from the nearest world. So, you know, accessibility is not easy, but when you get in there for the first time ever, you have a huge glacial lake up at the top and then there's a river coming from that that falls and steps out into the sea at what's known as Prince Charlie's Cove now in deference to the supposed royal visitor that came in the 1700s. But then when you move around the bay a bit as well, then you've got the largest raised beach in Ireland and out from you, you have a set of sea stacks, including the biggest in Ireland, the Tormor. So you're selling it. You're definitely selling it. Yeah. I've been down to Port, but never, never over there. So when you park at Port, then you're talking another two hours walk and over the mountains. So when you get in for the very first time ever, what kind of shocks you is the fact that there are remains of two houses there. There must be easily the most remote in Ireland. So people were living there for two centuries and coming and going. So when they were coming out of the place, they were carrying stuff. When they were going back in, they were carrying stuff. But the other reason I wanted very much to be visual is because the central character was a consummate artist. And so there was no other way. If you had to write this story and left the images out, it just wouldn't have been the same because one kind of compliments the other and a brilliant artist. He was as well and writer and you feature both his artwork and and some of his writings in the book. You devote a lot of time to Rockwell Kent. We'll get to him in just a second, but also Bonnie Prince Charlie. Yes, that that's the big mystery of the book in that 1746 was a seminal year in Great Britain. You had the steward uprising where Bonnie Prince Charlie came to Scotland and gathered the clans there to try and get the thrones back for the steward family. And they did very well for a time, attack down through England, got as far as Derby, but then his chiefs wouldn't go any further. And so they retreated back to Scotland and they were very roundly beaten in at the Battle of Culloden outside of Inverness. And so so started then the biggest manhunt in British history where they were trying to locate him. And there was 10,000 pounds on his head at the time, which was a huge amount of money. And his followers brought him out onto the islands and there was a real game of Captain Mouse going on there for a long time. But eventually he was spurred back on to the mainland and it's here that the Irish in English or sorry, the Scottish versions diversify in that in the Scottish version, he goes back to the mainland, which to my mind was tantamount to suicide. In the Irish version, you have him coming in at his own, works his way down through Glen Swilley. And eventually, this stranger turns up with his manservant in Glenlaw 1746, never reveals while he's in the in the parish who he is. And eventually, after a month, he's he's he's rescued by a friendship and taken back to mainland France. Now, you might ask, well, why a friendship? But at that time, Glenlaw was the centre of a lucrative smuggling adventure where tobacco used to come in from the continent. And it was landed in Glenlaw because it was so remote and then it was dispersed right throughout the county. So once the stranger left about maybe a month or two later, news even came into that remote valley about what had happened in Scotland. And suddenly the realisation came on the people that they had been graced by the presence of royalty for that month before. And so at night time, sitting around the hearth and that, there were really stories about how he had been helped in the harbour. And then a Protestant minister called Valentine Poole Griffith came to the parish in 1852 and he interviewed all of these families that, you know, had a connection with the stranger. And he wrote it all down in a very long letter that he sent to his Archbishop in Dublin. So it's all recorded. So it was many years later, but there was still people who remembered him or. Yes. So I mean, it'll it'll be probably a mystery forever. But when you realise things like what I've discovered since that during the rebellion, his secretary was John Murray of Broughton. And the Murrays of Broughton were the landlords of Kilkar and Killie Beggs around England, Column Hill. So when you start to look at facts like that, you suddenly start to think, well, hold on here a minute. There's even even was even a famous coin that he gave him payment and offered payment. It wasn't that he was tight or anything or didn't expect it to be to be given great lodging and service for for nothing because he offered up and this payment passed down to the generation. Yeah. On the very last night, and again, this was recorded maybe 150 years ago now, this tale, where he went to a house and mean a crush, which would be on the way back into Glenloch. And the lady of the house had no great English. So she put him to bed and what she she tried to converse with him. She said bed, bed, I'm a sleep that which means bed, bed, sir. I have sorted out a slumber down for you. And then to the neighbours who had gathered into the house.  And there's not enough English in me across. They would waken him again. And the following morning, he gave a gold coin to the family and that passed down through the generations to the last of the name Paddy John, why a McGinley and he used to take it out proudly when you go to the pubs and that and the the the locals rather good humor, but disparagingly used to call it, Liffing John Paddy or his hepany. He did very good. Well, Rockwell Kent, the the artist, well, well known artist and writer in the United States, one of the one of the most important of the early part of the last century, made his way to Glenloch. How did he how did he ever find Glenloch? Well, his modest operandi always was was to go to very remote areas around the world, the likes of Greenland, Alaska, Newfoundland, Terra del Fuego, and he goes far from the Madding crowd as he could and live with locals, live with the locals, try and find an area that was very monumental where you had the cliffs, the sea and the more monumental, the better. But then when he would be there, he would live the life of the locals. And once he would understand their lifestyle a lot better, he would then commit it to canvas. And he was a realist, I suppose, in the purest terms. And while he was in Glenloch, what took him to Glenloch was he was on the second honeymoon with a second wife, Frances. And I suppose it was a bit of a compromise, really. He was well used to Spartan life and he enjoyed it. Whereas for for for Francis, she was probably a wee bit more delicate. So the compromise was was to come to Ireland. Beautiful as it is, not the first place you think off for a honeymoon. No. But, you know, it wasn't planned in any shape or form. They got as far as Glentys, which was real's end. So what you're saying is he might not have known about it until he got here. Oh, not a clue. He got he just went north, which was always his inclination. And then when he he took the rail, as far as it went that time to the station in Glentys, they climbed a hill outside of Glentys the following morning. They saw Glen Head for the first time. He thought, that's where I'm going. So on their first night staying in Glen Column Kill, they were talking to the locals and the locals told them to go to Port, the wee fishing village of Port that you you were talking about a while ago. And when he met the McGinley family there and he became very friendly with them eventually, Dennis was a fisherman and the famous poaching maker of the area. But they they advised them, no, if you go in to the next valley, we think that's that's where you're looking for. So they landed into Dan and Rose Ward and Kent often described it afterwards as the happiest time of his life, where there was no other accommodation there, but he was a trained architect. And so he fixed up a cow shed that Dan had been using. A buyer. A buyer. And then he fixed up another one as a studio. And so there they live for the next five months. Lived in one. This is the newly married couple. Lived in one and worked in the other, worked in the other. And then he, like as you were saying earlier, he did the usually he really seemed to tune in to the people of the area very easily and tuned into their right sense of humour. And straight away, he was helping them with their gathering, his sheep and their shearing. He was helping the building of Dan Ward stack. He will go out to do the lobster fishing, all of that. And you can see that realism in the paintings that he produced at the time. And a lot of experts would now agree that, you know, his Irish oeuvres among the very best that he ever did. Dan Ward stack, very famous one. And also a famous picture of Annie McGinley. Annie McGinley, yes. Well, Annie, his wife went back a month early to America because she had the source and apartment in the studio because they were just newly married. He decided to stay on to finish his work. But now he needed somebody to do the washing and the cleaning and the tidying up on, suppose, female company and so on. So Annie, who was Dennis's daughter, became, I suppose you could say in a sense, a replacement for Frances. And of course, straight away, the rumours started that there was an affair. Which there's no basis to it whatsoever. But it wasn't helped, I suppose, when he did this tribute painting of her. She never sat for the painting, but he did it in tribute to her. And it's on the cover of the book. And it's definitely one of the most beautiful of the paintings. Absolutely, absolutely. She looks beautiful. You got a lot of information from chatting to Francie Gillespie. No longer with us, but he was a mindful of information. He was a character in every way. I mean, to go up to Francie for an afternoon, it was just, you know, a great experience in every way. And Fran... How old was he when Rockwell Count was there? He was ten.  And that's why the, you know, not just the paintings, but the writings and the photographs are so important now, because really what they, when you take them all together, it's a wonderful depiction of Ireland, just as we were taking our first steps towards autonomy after the Civil War. But Francie was a gas character. And when I was interviewing him, he was in his early nineties. And one of the days I took... I was telling Francie about the photographs, and I took him in and he was pointing himself out in the photographs and everybody else that was there at the stack that day. And later on then, I brought him up, a finished... The finished product, you know, a copy of the painting itself. And of course, it features six adults, you know, putting the finishing touches to a stack. And I showed it to Francie, gave it to him as a kind of a wee present. And Francie studied it for a while, and then he looked up and he says, the bugger, he never put me in. So he did the boy out. He had taken the boy out. But Francie could be very, very funny, because as I told you, Kent's accommodation was a couch head. And he waxes lyrical in one of his autobiographies about how beautiful it was. And people were coming from all over to see the beautiful little house and so on. So I asked Francie about it, because Francie would have seen it at the time. And Francie says, no, I didn't think much of it. It was easy to please him, really. To be honest, he says she wouldn't have put a cow in it. Oh, yeah, because I'm just getting the picture. About how remote it is. And, you know, here's the newly married couple. And the basic of basic is what they would have had to survive on. Very much so, yeah. How many months did you say, six months? Well, for Francie, it was four, for him, it was five. And just to sort of round out the story of Rockwell, Kent, he did come back, but it wasn't easy, because in the intervening years, he was a socialist and a communist, and this was the McCarthy era. And at one stage, he went looking for, and you tell all this in the book, he went to get his passport renew to come back to Ireland. Well, you see, what happened is, and it's a misconception that a lot of people have. Kent was an ardent socialist, but he was a socialist in terms of trying to make sure that poor people were well looked after and that they were getting an honest wage for an honest day's work. And often that wasn't the case in America. Some people then kind of append to that, he was a communist. But he said on oath on quite a number of occasions that he was never a communist, and he didn't like it as an ethos, because it was a whole country thing, and he didn't like the... He always liked the idea that a person had to be... Have freedom, and in communism, you never had freedom. But what had happened was that in the 20s and early 30s, he was the most famous and saleable artist in America. He worked beside Dennis Hopper, and he was out selling Hopper at that time, and Hopper's last painting went for 75 million.  Now, why? Because he was a socialist, which was kind of accepted right up until the end of the Second World War. But then what happened after the Second World War was you had the Cold War started, where Russia and America were trying to assert themselves in the new order.  And if you were a communist, then you were supporting Russia. So people like Rockwell Kent and other people that not alone were they a socialist, but also trying to work for peace in the world. And anybody that was in that situation... All got labeled as communists. Yes, and what happened then was that your right to travel was taken from you. So Kent got communicating with the owner of the valley, Dan Ward in 51, and Dan told him that himself and his wife were leaving the valley because they were getting too old and they couldn't get... They need to be closer to a church and shops and so on. So he told Kent that he would take 200 pounds for the whole thing, and Kent jumped at this opportunity, made an application for what he thought would just be a routine application for a visa. But like thousands of others in America at that time, he was refused his right to travel, and so started a long legal case that went the whole way to the Supreme Court. And eventually he won, and he was the first person ever in America to take his country for the right to travel. And it's a very important case to this day because you or me can't be refused the right to travel because of our politics, our religion, or our ethnicity. And that's written into the legislature now of all countries in the world. And as soon as he got his passport back, he came back to Ireland one last time to meet Dan Ward, to meet Annie McGinley of the painting, to meet all his old friends. But by then, the valley had been sold, and so that great opportunity was gone, sadly. Sadly is right. Time was very much beaten. Dylan Thomas, very briefly. Dylan Thomas, the Great Welsh Port, also spent time... He did indeed. He came in as a 20-year-old, his literary agent brought him there, trying to get him as far away as he could from the bright lights of London. Little did he realise he was taking him into the potchee making capital of Donegal. But again, he spent a summer there, and despite everything, he used Glenn Loch and the inspiration and quietness that it gave him to produce a second collection of poetry, including some very famous poems like And Death Shall Have No Dominion. So, but then at the end of the summer, as was going to be his pattern for the rest of his life, he kind of got bored and lonely, and he decided he would head away and up he left one morning, and I detail all this in a chapter that I call Welshing in Glenn Loch, where he up and left without even saying goodbye and without paying, and headed away with no intentions of coming back. OK. It's all detailed at great length in the book, and it is a wonderful book because not only had all that information and so much more about Glenn Loch and some of the characters that visited there down through the years, but also brilliant photographs and illustrations and reproductions of Rockwell Kent's art. Just a mention for the launch, there's a launch actually tomorrow night. There's one tonight first. Tonight, at half-six down here in the Central Library. OK. And then tomorrow night in our draw in the Perochial Centre at eight o'clock. And the reason why I'm kind of getting it out and written around that way is it is so big, it is kind of hard to post and so on. So if you can bring it out where people can come, get their copy and take, it's kind of nearly the only way to do it.  Christy Glassby, author of The Road to Glenn Loch. Thank you very much. Listen, thank you so much for having me, John. Around the Northwest, brought to you by Eregal Arts Festival, Donegal's premier summer event on the Wild Atlantic Way from July 8th to 23rd, visit eaf.ie. Best enjoyed on holiday. Tiree, live happy. Are you tired of how you feel? Despite diet and exercise, are you struggling to lose weight? Do you need help to achieve your weight loss goals? At Leta Kenny Medics Private Clinic, we are offering a free consultation to ascertain if you are suitable for treatment on our weight management programme. All consultations are confidential and completed by an experienced doctor. 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