Hello and welcome to this special session at Davos 2017 on advancing the sustainable development agenda There's a fantastic panel here that we will be discussing on how to make sure that we have the best examples and frameworks to action the promises made in 2015 The affluence creates its own excesses Poverty creates its own deprivations While we have good goals, these goals are nothing if you do not take them forward and while we have objectives the objectives themselves are Not sufficient in 2015 17 goals 169 targets as well as 304 Indicators had been proposed at a level that looks like a huge task But at the same time if you break it down It's a lot of small projects which can go ahead and ensure that the world can be a better place Let me begin by introducing our panelists. We're going to be sharing their experiences and telling us about What has been achieved so far and what must be done? What should be the speed and what can be the scale to ensure that SDGs meet the deadline of 2030? Let me begin by introducing Hindu Umaro Ibrahim. She's the coordinator for the Association of Indigenous Women and Peoples of Chad She's also closely working with the Tropical Forest Alliance On my left L.A. Thorning Schmidt. She's the Chief Executive Officer of Save the Children International and has been working very passionately on the subject Let me also introduce two very strong business leaders who are joining us. Paul Pullman, Chief Executive Unilever He's also part of the International Business Council Has been a member of the United Nations High-Level Panel to ensure that business is collaborating on this agenda And let me also introduce Mark Gutifani, who is the Chief Executive Anglo-American at United Kingdom Who's again also working very hard globally on several projects to advance the agenda Let me begin by looking at how best should we understand SDGs It means a lot of things to a lot of people For each stakeholder group there is a different interpretation But ultimately the directive is the same If I can begin with you Heli and ask you to share your experience so far And how do you interpret SDGs for yourself and for the organisation? Well first of all let me thank you for being here. I'm very excited about it I'm very excited that we're actually putting the SDGs front and centre of the discussions that we have at the World Economic Forum I've heard it more this time than I have in other years and that is exciting And the world is looking for direction We are gathered here at this World Economic Forum to talk about responsiveness and responsibility Responsiveness is the capacity to listen and to understand other people Responsibility is actually trying to find out how can I as a government leader Or as a leader of a big corporate company take the next steps towards responsible leadership And everyone is talking about we need a new rules to regulate economic globalisations And perhaps we do but I would just suggest to all leaders that are gathered here today That we actually have rules. We have actually got a blueprint or a roadmap or a framework for how we should move on And that is the 17 sustainable development goals So I'm excited if everyone at this World Economic Forum will get together and say what can I do to actually walk the talk And make sure that my company, my government whatever are moving in the right direction for the sustainable development goals I am the CEO of Save the Children International and what we have done in Save the Children just to give you an example I know it's easier for an NGO because that's what we are here for What we have basically done is to translate the 17 sustainable development goals into what that means for children What does it mean for children? And we just come back to a strategy that is completely aligned with the sustainable development goals Meaning that we are saying very openly we want to reach the most deprived children That's the promise of leaving no one behind We want to reach the most deprived children and we want to create a world by 2030 very soon Where no child has to die from a disease that we could have prevented before the age of five Where all children get access to quality education and where every child is protected and safe That's our translation of the SDGs into our work It's very simple if you ask any of the 25,000 people that works for Save the Children They will be able to repeat that I'll come to you on specific projects that you find have been successful and the challenges there for Hindu, what about you? You're also in a place in the region which requires a lot of support And you are pioneering work on that Give us some sense of what do SDGs mean for you and the teams that you're working for Firstly, thank you so much I'm really excited to be here and it's really a good topic to be discussed in Davos For me coming from Chad and coming actually from the community best and indigenous peoples SDGs is not meaning like growing economy or meaning a big town How we can converge to have like a big presence on others For us the SDG is meaning and life and livelihood of the peoples And giving equity, giving chance to everybody to get his survival So it can be best for us through the environmental issues where people can get them live, get them livelihood And get them development And it means also the peace and securities because we cannot manage to get the sustainable way of life Or development or a sustainable economy without having peace and environmental protections So if I can give you the example from the region where I'm coming from in Chad Like the famous one is around the lecture That's all the peoples talking about it But then this place is famous because there is a lot of impact there But there is something special, there is a lot of life More than 30 millions peoples living around this place And they are not living just to like say I want to be a big business or I want to be a president or I want to be something But they are living there, they say I want to ensure the survival of my next generation I want to get food for my kids today and how can I ensure it tomorrow So meaning of the sustainable development goal for us is meaning how those peoples can get a better life How they can get a chance to do not move to one region to another one just to say I want to have clean water Then how they can get also like education The basic one help because they do not have this one And this equity can get peoples together and we know that we cannot pass without being a partnership With all the different stakeholders from the government, from the private sector, from the NGOs But with these peoples and what these peoples need They have to define what the sustainable development goal for them means To make the mistake of the sustainable, not development, the MDGs Correct Thank you, it's survival and livelihood which are too so intensively linked And I think that's something which we don't really appreciate when we are living outside the regions that you are talking about Paul, you have for the last few years very aggressively championed the cause from MDGs to SDGs As well as leading from the front amongst the global CEOs How do you see the interpretation of SDGs today? Well, I think Hindu put it very well I think that for the first time we have a universal agenda One of the big discussions and we just came from President Seastock in the congress hall Is the world functioning or not And I think increasingly people are realizing that there are shortcomings And one of the reasons I've put a lot of energy behind the SDGs myself is I see it as a moral compass At a time that the global governance is difficult to say the least And we don't have the right institutions to deal with many things, the UN And frankly all the 193 nations that have signed it have risen to that challenge And signed this wonderful agreement in September 2015 And basically saying to the world we are committed to irreversibly eradicate poverty In a more sustainable and equitable way And unlike the MDGs, it's a universal agenda It's a one for peace, prosperity, planet, people And obviously a partnership which I think is the most important thing And what you see with these goals, which are 17 goals They're all incredibly interrelated We're all very happy there's a goal on gender equality Or a goal on climate change or a goal on health or hygiene The forest, the oceans, the land, a partnership But if you peel the onion you see that it permeates everything Climate change needs to be solved if you want to solve food security Women are the ones that suffer most from climate change Many people are deprived of education because of climate change We certainly would have issues with our forests, our oceans because of that So these goals are well thought through but they need to be seen holistically And it's a goal for everybody, we cannot achieve that alone The cost for implementing these goals are about three to four trillion dollars a year Which frankly is only three to four percent of the global economy And the benefits by implementing them are enormous We estimate between 12 and up to 30 trillion by 2030 So here we are in a global economy that isn't growing We have a hard time creating jobs, making it inclusive We're fighting with each other to what at times appears to make it worse And we have this agenda given to us on a silver platter Now the overseas development aid from all the countries in the world Is more or less 160 billion dollars, 3 trillion, 160 billion, it just doesn't work So the private sector has to get involved And we have to find ways obviously to get the private sector to finance The bulk of this program if we want to make it come alive And then for that reason we need to work together Have the right frameworks there with governments The right NGOs to be sure that we represent the people Which are square in the middle of the SDGs And then businesses themselves to really put their business model to the surface of the SDGs I have a very simple opinion that if businesses cannot convince you That they are actually contributing to making this a better world Why should we have these businesses around in the first place? So whilst shareholders need to be satisfied They cannot be the objective of running your business And what we have seen is that the average length of a company 50 years ago was about 67 years Now it's only 17 years And the reason I think is because they're running it for the wrong reasons So the SDGs offer tremendous opportunities for the private sector to get involved in If you have 800 million people going to bed hungry These people need to be fed If you have 1.8 million children below 5 dying every year of infectious diseases These kids need to be taken care of If we have millions, hundreds of millions excluded from education Offers an incredible opportunity So if we can unlock that by making the value chain work in partnership We can really in the next 15 years eradicate poverty And obviously also deal with the enormous issue of runaway climate change Which frankly is closely related to poverty These things are two sides of the same coin And I think people are starting to understand that now So it's in businesses interest and it's a tremendous opportunity Business that understands this and integrates for example climate change already Has increasingly shown that it has a higher rate of return They take risks away, they build reputation, can attract better people And see business opportunities that are in sync with society Also means that sustainable business model You cannot have a sustainable world in that sense If you don't create the sustainable business models in the first place That's great, I think also the equation that you shared Of investing about 3 to 4 trillion dollars And then getting a return of 12 trillion dollars as you've calculated I'll come back to you, it's a great equation Very simple, very powerful But how will that work out, I think that's what I'd like to discuss more with you Mark, this equation is powerful And the sector that you are in Is often at the front of a lot of anger Against what's happening to the environment How do you interpret SDGs and how is that playing out in your business models? Well I think the first thing to do is acknowledge Paul's leadership Across the global business in Leading the conversation from a business perspective And if I can give an extractives perspective That complements Paul's description I think that might help people bring it down to the ground In this case, we provide the goods That make life possible on earth Literally, if you don't grow it or mine it Then we make everything here possible However, the way we go about business Is certainly in many cases unsustainable And the thing that the SDGs provide for us Is a framework, firstly to have conversations inside our businesses And we start, in our conversations for example At Anglo-American, is making the point That our true role in the business is to serve society And in terms of the products we produce How do those products make life better? But what we've now framed the conversation around Is it's just as important to produce those products And produce them efficiently and deliver a return It's about the how If you're not producing those products And doing it in a way that's sustainable Working with communities, working with stakeholders So that they can support what we're doing Then our business by definition isn't supportable Or isn't sustainable And so partnerships, whether it's with local communities Whether it's with stakeholder groups Whether those partnerships are with other businesses Or governments, it's about the way we go about our business Society has defined through the SDGs Its expectations on what and how businesses should operate We as a company embrace that guidance from society And we've made it our number one priority In terms of defining how we go about Doing our business for the long term And we think if we can deliver on those objectives And work and we've mapped the SDGs In terms of the ones that we can most Material impact in the short term That for us becomes the way we go about our business And we hope the way we define what sustainability looks like That's a great point because I think the short term And the long term perspectives Sometimes they are at loggerheads with each other They are contradicting each other And as you have these conversations inside your organizations The challenge is to convince people That you have to look beyond the short term Heli, if you can share some thoughts on where we are What has worked so far You have 2030 as a deadline There's not a lot of time But you also have to give time and space For projects to play out and see the impact However, you need to also have some level of course correction It's a very difficult balance How do you see the changes that we must implement To make it better In the starting point here And I really thank our two business leaders For being so clear about it I noted what you were both saying I mean to say that the true role is to serve society And that there is a direction that is very powerful And I have actually come to this meeting World Economic Forum to hear more people saying that And to sign that, the compact that we have outlined For this meeting, it is very powerful To leave this mountain with a view What can I do and how does this fit into my business model And I'll challenge a little bit The difference that you're making Between short term and long term Because I think what we are realizing these days Is that the long term comes really fast And changes come really fast So of course there is like the short short term But the long term If you are a big company, a legacy company An old company, you will need to think of the long term And it's good to think that that should serve society You are asking where are we not doing so well And where are we doing well And should we be careful to do something And then make mistakes I think it's most important that we just do something There will be mistakes in what we are doing together Many corporate partnerships Some of them are fantastic And I'd like to tell you about them Some of them are not so good You start again But you can't just wait until you have the perfect model And then that's when you start And if I can just say I think we should realize at this meeting We are very far behind We have promised the most deprived people of this world That by 2030 What is it? 13, 14 years from now We will end extreme poverty End extreme poverty Not poverty, extreme poverty And right now we have 350 million children Living in extreme poverty That's a lot of people By 30 to 30 million people Living in extreme poverty That is not ending extreme poverty That is going down a bit But it's not ending extreme poverty And if that is just one figure In the Sustainable Development Goals Just one figure that I'm pointing to here Because I think this is extremely important Then we have to ask ourselves Are we on the right track Or what more should we be doing here And I think Paul has always said That poverty is not good for business And I think that's a very global view That we have to remind ourselves So it's not only Paul It's not only a moral obligation That you're talking about It's also a business obligation That we're talking about here But what has worked, Halle And that's what I think we need to discuss What has worked And what we need to do to make it better We have numerous projects And we're just starting one with With Unilever which is a very I expect a lot from This is about vanilla production In Madagascar And basically together We are partnering up And what we are doing Is to try to make more sustainable Vanilla production Better for the farmers Make sure that their children Can go to school Have a better health system We have Unilever being Being very certain That they will actually take the products Of these farmers And helping us Make this program possible This is an amazing leap In the way that these farmers live right now They have a long history Of reproducing poverty And bad business practices I think just in a few years We will see an enormous difference In that particular project And we have many of them Across the world Paul, you've said that We've achieved about 10% Of the SDGs In terms of the goals Is there an understanding Of which of these 17 goals Are ahead And which ones are middling And which ones are lagging? Well, when we did the Millennial development goals I think we do deserve to Pat us on the back a little bit Because between 2000 and 2015 We set as a simple goal To have the number of people Living in poverty And lo and behold We have achieved that And some people might say It's China or it's this or that I've been in business enough To understand there's always A reason for something But we have achieved that And most of more people Have access to water More women are participating In the global economy More people are in education We all live longer It's really a good time To be born So I don't think we should Start here From a crying session In that sense What we now see Obviously is that What we did in 2000 The issues were quite different From what we are seeing Now in 2015 Frankly the issue Of climate change Was not on the agenda Because it wasn't an issue People are now discovering That in 30 years time There's more plastic in the Oceans than there is fish So Houston has a problem Is getting through to everybody Now So the climate change Agenda with Paris Has really bent the curve For 4 degrees to 2.7 degrees We need to get it Below 1.5 degrees We have a very good Framework where all the Countries have committed Now we need to see If we move it up Very encouraging to see China 2 weeks ago Adding another 320 billion In their conversion To green energy And we need to now see That other parts of the world And obviously you need to Focus on the big countries To have impact Your country, United States, China That they follow suit But business is moving Since Paris Because business doesn't Like anything better Than certainty of direction So you might Or might not like climate Change That's not an issue here But as soon as the Governments of this world Said We're going to decarbonize This global economy What happened? The market for Difestiture Or the funds Of divesting of carbon We thought we could get 500 million in Paris We ended up getting 900 million Since Paris That a billion Since Paris That market is 5 trillion We at best Had 450 companies That had an internal Price on carbon It's a smart thing to do We now have 2,000 Companies With an internal Price on carbon The financial community Of price on carbon Was difficult to find Before Paris Now we have 34 trillion Dollars of money Under management Asking for a price on carbon So once a direction is given The financial market gets Involved Things start to accelerate And you see that also Happening hopefully With the sustainable Development goals Now where is the challenge? 17 goals 169 targets A global economy That isn't quite working An average 10-year Of a CEO That is four and a half years An increasing focus As you rightfully say In the financial markets Or may I say Also in the political arena And obviously the issues Of food security Or poverty Or the future of mankind Cannot be solved With quarterly On quarterly programs So for that reason In Unilever When I became CEO Now nearly nine years ago We abolished quarterly reporting We abolished guidance We moved our compensation Systems to the long-term Because I felt If I don't give that space To our people in the company It's unfair to ask them To be part of this program But how can we say That we value investments In IT We value investments In our factories We value investments Sometimes in training Of our people That all have payouts Of five, six, seven years or more Why shouldn't we have That same long-term view On the future of humanity? That to me is actually A bizarre question That you even have To answer sometimes That's true But at the same time The voices of the climate change Deniers are rising again Well, I wouldn't say that It is I wouldn't say that And I wouldn't agree either I think we might listen To some of these voices Because they're pretty loud And there are certainly Some people that And they're on some mountain Well, they might be In different places But you need First of all, reputation Is not built on what people Say It's like what Heller Rightfully said It's good to hear So many people saying Talking about Sustainable Development Goals But it's important To remind ourselves That reputation is built On what people do Not what people say Stephen Covey In his book Seven Habits Talks about You can't talk yourself Out of issues You've behaved yourself into In the last 200 years This world is five billion Years old In the last 200 years We've behaved ourselves In quite a significant pickle And have done more Damage to this earth In 200 years As if intergenerational Doesn't exist in the Five billion years So we have a job to do And we shouldn't underestimate that And that's why the Sustainable Development Goals Have, first of all We need to create awareness Because if there isn't Awareness, you won't have That critical mass The issue here is The direction is clear But we need speed And we need scale So that it has impact So we need awareness And then we need companies To internalize that And put it into their strategies That's a job to be done We're trying to reach out To about a thousand CEOs Because we think we can get A critical mass to do that Then we need the financial Systems to work The financial markets And a lot of regulations Actually counterproductive And we need to figure out What are new financial tools The market for green bonds Has exploded since Paris But it's clearly not enough Different tools of blended Financing and other things Need to come in And that's a lot of work Then we need to work With governments To look at regulations Because frankly A lot of the regulations That we have now Might not give you the effects That we're after So can we de-risk The political process And move the regulations Forward? And then the last Most important thing Which actually I should have Started with, I apologize Is we just have to create More leaders that are Willing to take a little bit More courage to drive This agenda forward Because at the end of the Day it's moral leadership We frankly have the answers Leadership in business Or in political Leadership in society Frankly we have the answers To many of the things We don't need more PhDs We don't need to send More people to Mars We know how to solve it You know We have the audacity To waste about 800 billion Dollars a year on food As if it isn't anything By the way If that would be a country It would be the third Biggest country in climate Emission after China And the United States But I think you use the word No, but it only takes 80 billion to feed The people that go to Bet hungry So any businessman Who wastes 800 billion And for an investment Of 80 billion Give me another option That is better And this is an option Again in humanity So we know how to do this We know how to protect The forest of this world We know how to create jobs For people in Africa If we decide to invest In smallholder farmers What do we do? We invest less We don't put it in research We don't share technologies We don't sit together To work in partnership To overcome some of these Shortages And that gets to the essence Of the SDGs And to the essence Actually of goal number 17 Which is a partnership goal It's not a partnership Between you and me Signing a contract If people read it What has been written down There by lots of people That have worked on it It's a partnership for humanity For the common good And if people understand That level of morality That is behind that Which actually makes a lot Of business sense as well We can solve a lot of things So that's why I come back To the shortage Of moral leadership True, and I think The factor of behavior Both at the leadership level And at the individual level I think that still has to Play it out Individual behaviors Have not changed The way it should be Hindu, can you share An example of a project That really excited you And was successful And that can perhaps Inspire others? Yeah, hearing firstly From Perman here Talking about the global And how the global Can change to impact the local So for us We are doing that At the local level And how the local can change And how they can use The resources that they have In the place Without like Containing on the International as you say Technology who can never come Or who can never show up To help them life So what we do On the climate change also Because in our region Who are really very dry Where there is A lot of lack of natural resources Water and all the challenges On environment So there is a lot of impact So we are seeing People talking more about the Environmental impact Seeing the land degradation Waters and others But there is something special Who is the social impact The social life Of the people's change a lot So the role of the Man and the women Change a lot And the conflict Grow growing Also a lot around this It's not like the Warm conflict Who are the normal one We know people fighting For the power But people fighting For access Accessing to the natural resources And if they do not have Choice it's becoming like Migration So after the migration It's becoming conflict on Integrism and others So there is a lot of origin And a lot of impact Going on there So in my region What we try to do In my organization Who is a little organization I can never compare it To anyone here in this room So what we do It's how to help These social destabilizations To come together And to build a new world To get a sustainable life So how to give the voice To the women So we cannot give the Voice to the women Without passing through The traditional way Of living To respect the tradition Of the peoples So we pass through the Man And we pass through the Chief So when we pass through Them we talk to them We say that life Changing now And we are seeing How really It's impacting Of our life But if you give Chance to the women Place it in kind of The roles And that can help The society to get Rebuilt together So in this project We help them To give the voice And when women For the first time They come They can never see Like you and me And we For the other months Around here But women sit there And men sit there Then they talk Then they talk About the real life Not like How we achieve The seventeen sustainable Goal But how we can get Water How we can get Agriculture So people talk About the real things That really They are impacting Them life Them daily life Then they said A woman used to say I'm working very Far to get food We have the example Of working very Far to get water And others Yes this is the normal Around all the Africa But how they can Get the food And when they work To get the food They're working through Just not GPS As you found The way But through the trees Yes So when you get From these trees To that one You can get this food And how you can Get your way back So they develop A lot of knowledge Around this one And they don't have Technology And they develop Knowledge in all This way of changing And through the Way of changing I can give the example They are not saying It's going to snow In Davos And like you need A strong shoes Or three jackets And others But they're Doing that To see How it's going To rain Next week How it's going To rain Next month Or next year And this Can impact our life And this is through The observation Of the bear's Displacement So when the Bears displace From one point To another one And it's certain Kind of months That they know Is giving them Like an indication Of the way They're changing Then they also Use like Certain kind Of trees And fruit Abundance or not And that Can give them The information About the rain If it can Ensure them Livelihood for the next Year Of they have to move From one place To another one So this project We developed With UNESCO And we are seeing We are continuing On this So people see How they can Get adapt To get them Livelihood And the food So we are Not stopping There We say Okay this is fine We put With the technology With the scientists And with the government So then we have The 3D modeling 3D mapping So through the 3D mapping It's just Like through the Graphical information We have We build a map Of the regions And we call the man Come to figure out The big ripper They say Oh here Is the mountain Of this ski No sorry We don't have a ski So we have sun So this is the Mountain Where we have the sun And the tree So when man Put all this Information In the maps So we call the women Then the women come They say No it's change Here where we Get our medicine Here where we Get our food And when we call The man back They say Yes women are right So when we figure Out this map It's help the Community To give them Voice to develop Them on Development way When the Development agency Come They say No we don't Want to have the water In this point Because we don't Have a water Problem there We want to have The water here So it's give them More voice to Contribute Them on Development and What they need So but from This national level If it's not Link it with The international level It cannot help The other Leaders to Take the right Decision As you said Some people's Denying on The climate change Impact This one like When we come in Paris As indigenous peoples We said The world leader Are there And the business Are there All the big peoples Are there So how we Can give voice to The peoples And to give Voice to the peoples We need to let them Understand All the environmental Issues The development issues It's linked With the Right of the peoples So we need to Integrate the respect Of the human Right inside Because if I didn't Want to the score All this Is the right Link with it But if we don't Have this one Into the International agreement At the practical level We cannot implement it Right So I agree With you I think also The development Of livelihood And giving options So for example I know About I am the Code Which is teaching Young girls To code So that They become Self-sufficient And they're also The challenges Other examples That we can Talk about Yes I think it can I think as business Leaders There are two things That we have to do Much better than we have Done in the past And then the third Element that goes That with innovation First thing is to Lesson In terms of The description That we've just Been given about What's important In that local community And that broader Community As money And I use myself As an example We used to think We'd go in there And say Well this is what you need The day That we took A step back And said What is important In your life And how might we Help you develop The future potential Of your community And what role can we play Listening to that Conversation We start to understand How important Every one of those elements Are And that's the starting point And that's the new approach That we're introducing And promoting Across our industry Now with that We bring capital We bring skills We're looking to work out How we can help Solve some of those problems Using different innovations For example We've now identified a way That we think we can reduce Water consumption By 50 to 80% In our mining operations In the end It doesn't matter if we're not Getting the water to the right place As it fits for the community So how do we work with communities And bring the technologies and skills That we have To help solve their solutions That they've defined Not what we think they are That for us is the real partnership And a different way of operating We had some sessions at the Vatican And we're talking about How do we change the way we engage With communities on the ground One of the cardinals made the point Meaningful existence Until you take the time As a business leader To understand what meaningful existence Means to those local communities You will never find the right equation Or you'll never establish the right Relationship with that community That allows you to operate as a true partner Listening to that conversation And looking for the right innovative Technologies and approaches That can support that view Not interrupt it Or make a difference But to support what they're trying to achieve That's where we'll make a difference It could be water It could be energy It could be providing Transportation infrastructure Commercial or otherwise All sorts of solutions That can be found By us as business leaders Bringing technologies That we don't think of In terms of our local community That's the difference Listen to your local communities And understand how you can make a difference To their lives As they define what the future should look like And a different answer for every region Because you cannot have a common answer For everybody Exactly, don't walk in Thinking you know the answer Keep your mouth closed Use both ears And your eyes And understand how you can help Solve the problems that confront The people on a daily basis Sometimes the solutions Live with the people that they did They just need the catalyst To be able to make them work Let me bring in some questions And thoughts from the audience We have about 15 minutes left And if you could please introduce yourself I have a blind spot behind my head So maybe I could come to you And if you could keep it brief Then I'll ensure that we can get As many questions as possible Thanks a lot Welcome, Yaman I'm with Care International I have a question to Paul You started very beautifully In describing the STGs As a moral compass Which has the potential And maybe is kicking in In the absence of a functioning Global governance system That's actually quite a nice But also steep ambition My question to you is Do you think the STGs themselves Have a strong enough governance system Robust enough and inclusive enough Around it to make it really successful Good question So that's a good question And first of all I'll also compliment Caring On what you're doing And as part of driving the sustainable agenda So the more we can get That critical mass the better I think the STGs The MDGs forgot partnership And forgot the private sector And it was sort of an afterthought Yesterday we were in Vienna At a conference with a few Hundred people in the audience And still about 25% of those people Firmly believed that business Should not be involved in the STGs So there is a challenge We should not be naive about that And I think more needs to be done Also with the UN itself To embrace the private sector We have the UN Global Compact That has 9,000 members And obviously they're spreading the word World Business Council Was sustainable development 35,000 members The WEF here Obviously with some of these initiatives So that is starting to happen But I think it would be better And easier if we Had these partnerships More being championed By some governments in the world Often the ones who need it the most And then obviously also working With civil society on that As was mentioned before Absolutely key I would not touch any project anymore In Unilever Without involving those three Projects at scale Like the Simbrice project That we do to save the children And us on Vanilla and Madagascar Where the UN also Has not really fully embraced This is on measuring You treasure what you measure And you have to think about it That you don't measure the wrong things The original MDGs Went a little bit quickly They measured the number of people in education But not the quality of education So we're spending more time now On these measurements But I wish that we would have had A little bit of a broader reach out And get the right measurements And we still need to do some work on that And then it is a little bit difficult If you agree what needs to be done And if you have the measures It's only as good as you have Your accountability and responsibility And transparency And there is a little bit of attention there still Because some countries feel that That transparency belongs to them That accountability is not for the world To put on others And I believe that the only way Ultimately to build that trust again And repair society Which Edelman will be launching The trust barometer again at the web And it has all gone down again Down for the press Down for the governments Down for the private sector Is the only way to restore that trust Is if we work with transparency Because transparency is that basis for trust That you need to build prosperity And then holding everybody accountable So there are some things we still need to work on And as you rightfully say We're now 15% on the runway of the SDGs We're in the plane And we haven't heard the engines Become louder yet So I'm starting to worry a little bit Because normally you shouldn't live off yet But you certainly should hear the engines And so we have to work on that part of it And for that reason we issued this report And there are some commissioners here We have some SDG advocates here We issued this report on Better business, better wealth If you want to Where we give some tools And scorecardings and transparency And some practical ideas actually How businesses can implement it In their own companies But also in their value chains And hopefully move the agenda forward So I hope that gets to your question Great, one question here please And the lady at the back maybe Oh, okay, right at the back So maybe I should collect the questions And then come back to everybody Sure, so I'm Gary Cohen with Bechton Dickinson So it was mentioned before Paul, you mentioned before The reduction in poverty And that there's always a reason And the economic development in China You can add India and some other developing countries We're a major catalyst for that reduction in poverty On the health-related MDGs The most significant success was In infectious disease, MDG-6 And the focus on HIV and AIDS Global fund and PEPFAR Were major catalysts On MDG-4 Ending under age 5 mortality Went from 9.6 million in 2000 To 5.9 million in 2015 GAVI and childhood vaccination Focused on pneumonia and diarrhea Were major catalysts And I know we're comparing A little bit apples and oranges MDGs to SDGs But what do you foresee as the catalyst Because you mentioned before The engines haven't Just a moment ago The engines haven't really revved up yet These catalysts tend to be What fire up the engines And can you foresee What may be the catalyst That among other things Will help align private capital Around these public sector needs How will that alignment Actually accomplish? I'm requesting all of the speakers To hold their thoughts And come to all the questions later Yes, please Mike, there, please Thank you My name's Corinna Hawkes I'm with the Global Nutrition Report And the Centre for Food Policy So the panel spoke to The issue of cross-cuttingness And synergies between the girls Talking about the fact that Children are relevant to all of the girls And that solving children's problems Will help address all of those girls The same was mentioned In reference to climate change And in my work in food We know the same for food That we're only going to solve All of these problems If we solve food problems So there's a lot of synergies And in our work In the Global Nutrition Report We know that if we address nutrition We will address a lot of the other girls And vice versa in fact What worries me Is how are we going to Have good governance and leadership To make sure that the synergies Between the different girls Are managed through to efficiently And coherently achieve those girls As opposed to what we usually do And go back into our little segments And work towards our own girls That we care about What are the incentives What are those governance and leadership That we need To make sure that those of us Who work for example as myself In food and nutrition That I'm also helping other people Achieve their goals And also encouraging other people To help me achieve what I care most about Thank you The back mic over here please And then I'll come back to the panelists So you're close to the mic So just after him Okay thank you My name is Alicia Barsena I come from Latin America And the Caribbean I would like to say that In my region I see that SDG is progressing Very importantly From the governmental perspective Almost all the governments Are setting together An institutional arrangement They are incorporating SDGs In the planning process And in the budgeting process And I think what's missing now Is the link with the private sector So I really hope from these Davos meeting That we can make sure There's going to be a forum Of the Latin American And Caribbean countries In April in Mexico Where 11 countries Are going to report progress And I think what we need now Is a link with the industries To invite them to this forum Which is going to be on 26th to 28th April And we really need The private sector there Are you saying the private sector In Latin America Is not as enthusiastic? Exactly So we need them And we have some of the companies Here working in Latin America Unilever, the mining sector So we need to engage In this tripartite dialogue With the civil society as well That's a good call Sharon Thank you very much I'm Sharon Young global leader From Nepal I think you raised a very good point About that social investment side Of working in the Unilever And save the children Producing a vanilla ice cream Is a vanilla? Just vanilla Just vanilla All right Without ice cream Without ice cream All right Sorry Just want to quickly ask About this question For the panel It's how much that Micro and small businesses Especially social businesses Contribute towards the SDGs And how you're going to measure Those impact Not the big company Who makes a big commitment There's lots of people Do little things in their own way Without using a term SDGs Sure And as one of our colleagues said About the indigenous people's contribution How you measure those And this is a trend That we're looking at That SDGs is not Only driven by the charities Or UN bodies Because when the charities And UN bodies comes That development countries As a dollar coming in Rather than What the project need to be done What is the bigger picture So is it the social business Or social conscious related approach And as she mentioned Respect to the indigenous people Is the way forward Because the first MDG failed Because as a nature has given us Two years in one mouth Nobody listened We just applied Is it time to listen And move forward That's a great point So you know I'll come back to the speakers Because we have exactly five minutes left I'm going to begin with Paul And go around and with you If you could all respond In your own ways To each of the points Which have been raised If you have a question I have the points here I won't go to either of the points Otherwise we won't make it But what makes us optimistic That this agenda can be done I think we're getting at a point In humanity where the cost of not acting Is higher than the cost of acting So people that might not have The moral compass Will certainly have The economic compass And we're seeing that In climate change In the U.S. now Coal is not economically viable Because you have shill gas Or the more jobs are being created In green energy now Than in the fossil fuel industry So the economics give me hope Millennials give me hope There's definitely a big trend Of millennials which are now Becoming the bigger photo group And they need to get out to photo We need to work on that And they are also getting The bigger spending power And they certainly are more Purpose driven than Unfortunately our generation And the last thing I think the good side of the internet Is that it creates transparency You open every day the newspaper now And there's someone caught With his pens down to be honest And there is no better way Of transparency to drive behavior In my opinion In terms of the initiatives Because your question is very You need a lot of initiatives Because it's a big world And initiatives are driven By Hindus example People like yourselves With the passion on the ground So we shouldn't say Should we have less initiatives No, what we should focus on is Create a few initiatives On top of all the things That are happening on the ground That we can drive globally with scale At the WEF we started a few years ago The new fishing for agriculture Africa, a billion plus people Going to 2 billion plus people Has to import food now What's going to happen How many more people need To come on boats to Europe With all the other things So we need to make Africa self sufficient New fishing for agriculture Kept to sustainable agriculture We got 10 billion dollars Of commitments from companies And a lot of that is being invested already Millions of jobs are being created Thinking about it In terms of small hold of farming And job creation At scale if you might want to You need to do those things On top of the many initiatives On the ground So it's a combination And what is most powerful Is actually sectorial Where you go into a joint Value chain with the sector On food waste Which is goal number 12 In the SDG's responsible consumption And one of the 169 targets I look like a loonie But I worked on it so much Goal 12.3 is food waste And so we've grouped All the big retailers And manufacturers together To see if we can make A significant dent in the food waste And so you need these initiatives At scale on top of all the Small amounts that are happening And then you need Cross sectorial initiatives You take human rights Which company can justify To have 150 million children Still in your value chain And there are 150 million children And I'm talking between The age of 5 and 12 How many can justify to have 20 million refugees in a value chain A slave labor So cross sectorial initiatives Are equally important as this On the final one On the countries really quickly There are five or six countries That have embraced the SDG's At ministerial level And Columbia is the best example In Latin America But clearly not enough yet And we certainly are happy To channel a whole group Of cross sectorial people again With an agenda to this We've done that with the new Climate economy We're doing that again With the business commission On sustainable development And I think we've picked Ethiopia already, Columbia, Vietnam, Uganda And two or three other countries So if you have more Where there is commitment From the government From the head of state Where there is a ministerial post On the SDG's Because all too often we go And we get involved And do a lot of things And then there's no commitment Because there's the next Political cycle Thank you Indu Yeah, actually just to say Synergy is very important But how we can achieve this Synergy I think we can do that Through the partnership And a real partnership Not only in the purpose Paul said that we are Partner and does it No, really we can take the Example of the Tropical Forest Alliance 2020 Where all the people Come in the board You have the government From the south, from the north You have the private sector The bigger one, the smaller one And you have the civil society You have the indigenous people So you have local communities All come together in the board And to see how they can achieve All what they get as engagement And we cannot talk, as I said earlier About one God achievement Without talking about the second one So the coordination Needs firstly among the UN agency Firstly how the UN food And the UN climate change And UN security And human rights Can all come together And discuss about the SDGs Because they cannot do the sectors And yes Hindu, I'll have to interrupt you Because we have to We have one minute left Just to say this one Sorry, but Just the measuring Is really very important We love to talk a lot But we are not talking About how we can measure this one In 2013 it's just about tomorrow Then I'm thinking about The life of my people So we don't need to Thank you I think two points Firstly the SDGs have been launched And Driven by government At the bureaucratic level We have yet to drive them Through society And so this awareness This discussion Help explaining them I think it's absolutely critical In the education The second part When we talk about What's going to make The SDGs work If you use the example Of HIV AIDS Anglo-American was the first Major company to provide Medicines to employees And their families When one does it The rest follow Groups like ICM in mining Is a group Of the top 23 Mining companies Establishing standards Working together And then using those Standards as guidance For the rest of the industry That's the intergroup Cooperation How do we then Drive that across industries Is this dialogue And forums like this Getting the awareness there People will come Finally They've got great faith In the millennials They will reward Good behaviour And as we promote What good behaviour looks like The consumers will I think in the long term Based on all the market research We've done They will reward Good behaviour So our people understand What it looks like And how they can play They part And our behaviours will follow Thank you Hello Thank you very much I know we're in a rush So I'll say two things First of all We shouldn't lose hope I think we're here today Because we really have hope That we can create A better world And let's remind ourselves That the world is A better place now Than it was 20 years ago I mean children for example Have never been healthier Or wealthier Or better educated Than they are right now And of course We can have progress In the coming years The problem is That we don't have A big economic growth To support that That's what we've had For a number of years We don't have that So the only thing We have left And then I come to the second thing Is that everyone has to be Every All hands on deck Everyone has to join This journey And that's why I think The most important In this conversation Is actually partnership Partnership Partnership Everyone can do something All organisations All businesses Can do something And if you find it Impossible Or difficult to get started Yourself Speak to your local NGO Or any NGO To get started Because That will bring you To a place Where we can create A value chain That is really worthwhile Where we can create Deep partnership Where we can use technology Where we ensure That we have the localisation And listening to the people That it actually concerns That is where partnerships Come in The whole value chain Of partnerships So that is what I think should be The final word That we take with us Partnerships for the Sustainable Development Goals Thank you And thank you And with this Please join me In applauding the speakers Thank you