The age of the Earth's exploration, of its mapping rather, is long since over, yet the age in question continues to fascinate. Antarctic expeditions, those journeys into the most inhospitable climate on the surface of the planet, hold a special place in the public imagination. For millennia, European peoples believed and searched for an ice-free polar sea supposedly acting as a shortcut to the far side of the globe. And that's just the North Pole we're talking about. The Dutch navigator, Willem Berenz, went on three separate expeditions to find such a passage, immortalizing himself and his crew in the process. Harried first by the ice that had trapped their ship, and then by polar bears incapable of making their way home, Berenz and his crew were forced to spend the winter on the island of Nova Zembla. There they had a first-hand experience in learning what the pale beyond is willing to teach you frostbite-free. That lesson? The ice is cruel and uncaring. To explore it to first sail and then walk it, demands preparation, forethought. And Cajones, the size of that bizarre MSG sphere in Las Vegas. Desperation will do too. To whether the ice is too cold adversity. Know that there is no beating it, only surviving it. There is no other choice but to prepare with everything you've got. It won't be enough. The ice will always find ways to surprise you. When that happens, you'll have to trust you've got good people and enough of them at your side. This is where Balila Studios' debut title excels at. It peeples the pale beyond with good characters. It has to. This game is a narrative experience with engaging board game style survival mechanics. The gameplay loop consists of dialogue options and managing your crew in an attempt to survive on the ice. Catastrophe strikes early.  The crew is powerless to work the temperance free of its frosty grip and soon enough the choice becomes clear. Cling to the familiar way of ice on the ship and get crushed to death. Or venture the sudden arctic cold. Really, it's no choice at all. The setting of the pale beyond is a recognizable rendition of turn of the 20th century Britain, where capital is King. And the mysterious expedition to find the lost ship, the Vicount, is financed by an equally mysterious benefactor. The player character is first mate Robin Shaw, whose origins are up to you. Did he serve in the military? Was he a buccaneer? Highborn? Or born on the seas? Family man or a lone wolf? Those early choices don't change too much later on, but your crewmates will make note of it occasionally, and their perception of you might be affected by them. Before you know it, the temperance is off to the South Pole in the search for the Vicount. Captain Rufus Hunt, who hired you, is chill and likeable enough. Until the ship gets stuck in the ice, Hunt gets sloshed and promptly disappears. This leaves you to take his place as captain. Hold the crew together on the ice, survive and earn their loyalty. Braleonate everyone and let them die. It's up to you.  Still, the loop of the pale beyond aims to engage you with the crew at a deep enough level that you don't act like a murderous sociopath intent on speedrunning the deaths of everyone that's even only geographically close to you. The developer deserves compliments on the strength of their writing. It's damnably hard not to like most of the crewmembers that holds for everyone from the most important specialists on board to the crewmates whom you hardly ever interact with. I'll have to talk about the characters, won't I? Fine. Here goes. But I'll do it in song. I should break it up a little more. Templeton is a stickler for rules, and the fish is all bastard, although not as old as he looks, and he can be either the best of friends or the most odious of enemies. I suspect the latter, based on what I know of his character. I've never gone that far out with him because I genuinely like the guy. He's a nerd, a biologist and someone invested in the success of the expedition. Give him a reason to support your authority and he want flinch. If you want to earn his loyalty, you have to exercise. What's more, you have to make choices that prioritise the crew above any single crewmember. Kurt Darling is an old explorer whose fame has turned him into a solid great B movie star. Famous, eager to drink the full cup of life even as his age is catching up to him. Darling is a bear of a man and a gentleman, immensely likable, so there's no voice acting you know exactly what kind of voice he'd have. A warm booming baritone. Nothing like I can pull up. Behind it are a number of regrets. Behind the voice I mean, Darling reminds me of a character Virginia Woolf wrote in her to the lighthouse novel, Mr. Ramsey, a brilliant man in his way who needs validation from an external source. Kurt want bulk at the facts but show him kindness, show him understanding and he'll be your friend for life. The Stokes brothers as some of the captain's oldest crewmembers, fiercely loyal to Hunt, especially the elder brother, Grimes, they take work and planning to turn to your side. Junior is the easier to get along with. As first mates he spend a lot of time helping him add ingredients to the hooch, the food the crew subsists on. With both the rule is not to disparage Captain Hunt, but Grimes especially hates any reminder of your own authority. They appreciate you showing care for the crew and if you manage to earn their loyalty, you come to see some of the most satisfying scenes play out at the game's end. But I'll leave it at that, Grimes is a pain in the arse though so if you don't feel like earning his loyalty, I see you. Hammond is growth and has the lowest expectations in the world, beat them and you get to surprise the grump or don't and give him the gratification of every grouch at being proven right. Lady Cordell is a mysterious dog kennel owner and trainer, she's entrusting and does not consider herself a part of the crew, whether you try to change her mind or keep her walls up, is down to how you play sure, but earning her loyalty revealed one of the most delightful and complex characters across the entire game. I heart her. Karsha Belfort is a sharp journalist whose love for truth was inspired by Kurt Darlings' exploits. She's on the expedition to critical it and will take endless risks to accomplish the highest standards of truth. Journalistic excellence might as well be her middle name. Karsha is what journalists should be, what at least some of them aspire but fail to be, what many pretend to be while scrupulously breaking that social contract that we should hold them in ourselves too. Can you figure out how much I like her just yet?  As Dr. Nuttley as well, he shares quarters with Belfort for much of the game. She providing psychological aid in her amateur sleuth way, he providing medical services. Nuttley is the very model of the modern, read Victorian, or Edwardian, doctor gentleman. His nerves frayed, his capacity, wait is it Edwardian or Georgian, I think I'm thinking of Georgian, his nerves frayed, his capacity to survive the season certain, his family life marked by the bizarre weight of expectations, I mean his father is a barber for God's sake, the rule with Nuttley is, never try to play the role of stern truth saying to him, it'll go horribly, terribly wrong. Those are I think the big movers and shakers, whose loyalties you have to be on the look out for. You'll spend hours chatting with them, learning what makes their minds tick, fears and uncertainties, interests and passions, hopes for an unlikely future. The loss of them make for a memorable constellation of characters, I would be glad to spend more time with them even as a bygames end, I'd had enough of the pale beyond. The resource management boils down to three simple considerations, keep your people warm, keep them fed, make sure morale doesn't fall to the point where they'll string you up by your toes. It's easy on the ship, you've got an endless supply of coal and tins full of peaches. On the ice, once the ship is torn apart and your tins turn bad, you have to go hunting, exploring them up nearby, finding various hunting spots for different breeds of penguins and seals, as well as fish. It's not necessarily easy to begin with and it gets so much worse as the temperatures drop. The great challenge of the game is to properly prepare for the long winter, when venturing out into the cold will be equivalent to madness or at least a frostbite sentence for anyone you send hunting in a weather of minus 40 and under degrees Celsius. Oof-boof-boof, I don't know about you but I tend to wither whenever the thermostat drops below 23.99 degrees Celsius, stacking resources, choosing how much of your supply is to use every week, that requires planning. The higher the difficulty, the more planning and greater the care. On the current normal difficulty, the game is a lot more forgiving than it was when I first played it. That first difficulty has been relegated to the classical status and is still available for play, but as I had unknowingly abandoned my first play through a single week before winter's end, I decided to begin the game anew at the current default, normal difficulty. I had stopped playing previously because I'd gotten to the point where I was about to lose someone on the crew that I really didn't want to lose and that boned me out enough that I didn't want to keep going. Weird, I know, usually I'm a stickler for the consequences of my own actions, but this time around I had a gut reaction that wouldn't go away. The second time around, when winter came, I was ready. It's partly to do with understanding much better what is necessary to survive. I knew to get every item I could from the tempest that would make my hunting expeditions more fruitful. Further, the game was simply more forgiving. Less of my people would turn malnourished when I had provisions in half. Less of the people I sent out on expeditions would be freezing upon their return. I had to be careful, don't get me wrong, but as long as I was, the chances of losing someone due to resource mismanagement were slim to none. And if that's too easy, if you want the ice to treat you far worse, there's always the hard mode. It might not be the mode for me, but I'm sure it will find its proponents. And if you want those achievements, you'll be sure to dig in anyway. My fantasy was to be the first mate who rises to the occasion, fades in the cowardice of another, trusts upon him. Uncapable of making the right choices that saved 25 lives on the ice. Someone that befriends his crew members and earns their loyalty. That's what I got. The Pell Beyond was one of the pleasant surprises of last year. It's the work of Bellyler Studios, an offshoot of the Bellyler Games YouTube channel, which I've intermittently watched on and off for years. Ironically, I didn't find out about the game from the channel but came across its trailer at random and was enchanted by the promise of significant life or death choices. This game deserves praise for delivering on this promise all the way. It deserves praise for the tribute it offers to the world of yesteryear and the countless expeditions that sought to map the poles of our own world. Those real world inspirations are clear. So too are the elements of the otherworldly hinted at and seldom seen. Not Lovecraftian but certainly Uncanny, and all the more fascinating for it. Even if you find the gameplay loop simple or don't enjoy the management aspects of it. It's a none too bitter pill to swallow for the pleasure of the character's company. The quality of the art certainly eases things along, capturing the atmosphere of peril on the ice in a way that not even Frostbunk managed for me, not at so personal a level. Frostbunk was of course masterful at setting the stakes at the level of civilisation. The paleon is gorgeous in the way in which every piece of character art has this wedded, frayed look to it that nonetheless captures the essential quality of each character as they are written. That on its own is a significant accomplishment. There are some issues you will encounter the occasional error as far as dialogue presentation goes. Dramatical and punctuation mistakes are few enough, but more towards the end. I also received a few instances of getting interactions with characters that did not correspond or conform with the choices I had made. I think it only happened once or twice, but even that's once or twice too many for a narrative game of such ambition, right? With the paleon the shot, whether at full price or on sale it is well worth 8-10 hours of playtime and perhaps more. I left the game unfinished once and returned to it later, starting from scratch, making some better choices than the first time around. Perhaps next time, I'll do worse. So much worse. And so on. To learn more about Willem Barrens read A Riveting Essay by Andrea Pitzer on the New York Review of Books. You can also just shoot me a private message if you don't want to pay to get that pay wall down and maybe I can send you a little PDF, just saying. And of course the big thing is, as always, if you appreciated this video please don't forget to subscribe, smash that like button and leave a comment down below. Have you heard of The Pale Beyond? Are you planning on playing it? Have you played it already? Let me know what your impressions are. Is this kind of arctic expedition fantasy? Your thing, your cup of tea at all? I didn't expect it would be mine, but there it is. I loved it. And I'd love to hear more from you lot, so I'll see you soon again. And oh yeah, let me know, are there any games you'd like me to look at? Always open to suggestions as well. Anyway, I'm Philip Magnus, you're not. And I'll see you next time. Bye!


. I just hate him.  OK, well, you know what? I think that it's over. Let's discuss a little bit. Yeah, I think Lance killed it. I think, you know, that I was expecting exactly how it went down in terms of those first 20, 30 minutes would take him some time to reconfigurate his usual way of discussing and debating with people because Tim has a very specific way of doing it as you all saw. And it is very different when you're sitting there. I'll tell you, it doesn't matter how many times you've watched him pool. You're not ready for it until you're sitting there and you're on the other end of it. Once he got past that opening, it was smooth sailing from there. He did great. He killed it. I thought he did really great. Yeah, I agree with that. I think that, like you said, it was a little bit... There was an adjustment period. He was kind of out of place at first, but you can tell towards the end he got really comfortable. He found his own. And when he adjusted to their bullshit tactics in the way that they tried to corner him, yeah, he knew what to say.  Like, he knew all the talking points. He knew how to combat what they were saying, specifically the left-handed chart moment. Just highlight. He crushed it. He should be proud. I think he did really, really great.  He's got it. Look, they went round and round on abortion and they did the same thing to you, Matt, as you were saying before. And it's really hard to get out of that trap. So I think they spent a little too much time focusing and going round and round in circles.  And I think it just went more smoothly in the trans discussion afterwards after he got out of that trap. Because eventually you have to break out. They really don't know that. They don't know anything about that issue. It's all about trans people being freaks, especially with someone like Sheamus. That was his position. Tim plays that game where he's supportive of trans rights in certain ways. And he'll do that for every issue. And whether he believes that in his heart of hearts, it doesn't matter because at the end of the day he runs a show that doesn't push that narrative. Let's take what he said at the end about Blair. He thinks Blair White should be able to... Blair White, if people don't know, is a trans right wing woman. A right wing trans woman, I should say. He believes that Blair White should use... be able to use the woman's bathroom. We could even go with... Tim actually does believe that's the case. But if you watch his show, do you walk away with also feeling that belief after listening to them? If you were on the fence and weren't sure, if you walk away sharing Tim's belief, absolutely not, you don't walk away with that. You walk away believing that the trans woman shouldn't be able to use the woman's bathroom. Mm-hmm. Right. And that they're all coming after cis-gendered women. And that they're the ones that are doing the rapes and the assaults. And you gotta keep them out of the bathrooms and protect your children against the people who are going to wait. He made the argument, oh, it's mutilation, genital mutilation, right? But then those are the same people also doing the raping and the assaults of cis-women in bathrooms. That doesn't make any sense. Mm-hmm. They're not even consistent on their own positions. They're not even consistent on their own arguments. Mm-hmm. And so, look, in hindsight, to go back to what you were talking about, like being in the belly of the bees, being in the den. Like, yeah, it's easy to catch them afterwards. But when you're in it, it is a lot more difficult to be able to react to that, especially when you don't have the resources to pull up, studies, because they don't believe your meta-studies, which is actually just a collection of already peer-reviewed studies collected together. That thing, that drove me insane. I know, yeah. I don't know if you were watching this stream, Jeff, but I said how, I think the whole study thing is pointless when you're having a debate like this. If you're doing a written argument, if you're going back and forth with essays or blogs or newsletters, substacks, or whatever, sure, cite your studies, whatever, but in a conversation, it does not work to be throwing studies at each other, because it doesn't matter if you throw a study at me, I cannot read and understand the analysis and cross-reference a study in the one minute I'm able to browse through it live on a televised or live stream debate. It does not work in this setting. And that's why Lance was good at hitting him with the other stuff. He was going and hitting him with the freedom argument, for example, hey, I believe in freedom. I believe in liberty. What about you? Do you believe in freedom? Do you believe in people being able to make their own choices and live their own lives and do the things that they want to do? And there's no argument to that. They have no argument to that. And so it really shows how I believe, and I say this all the time, they want to run your life. They're just trying to figure out ways, sneaky ways to do it using moral arguments or what they consider to be more arguments. Suda religious arguments, sometimes thinly veiled arguments of a moral nature to try to make their case that they should control your life and control your body and control what you do and say and who you love and what you do to your own body. Ja, I also want to point out that I thought that it was really clever of Lance to just really quickly pull up the quote from jazz because they kept using jazz, but all Lance did was pull up a really quick quote and that entire analogy just went nowhere after that because you saw that he was trying to use her for a point that she wouldn't want him to make. So I thought that was really, really clever. But when was it? But when did she say that? Right. When did she say that? It's never going to satisfy them completely, but you know, he could see it on his face when he realizes that he's losing, he won't take the L, but you can tell that he knows that he's kind of back into a corner. And I thought that was really clever of Lance. So Lance, like, I think he crushed it. I think he did a really, really great job. That amount of pressure with a lot of people, probably hundreds of thousands of people, right wingers watching already that jumped down your throat, it's really difficult to deal with that and I think that he was very savvy in basically meeting them where they are, like saying, okay, I like that you're going after Disney. I like that you're going after Bud Light. That's really smart because it probably surprises some of these right wing ten poor poll viewers and they're like, oh, wait, you actually agree with us there, so they might check out his content and that's how you can maybe convince a couple of people. I'm not saying, like, this is going to lead to, like, some mass enlightenment, but that's really how you do it.   And I think that that really works. It's savvy. So, yeah, Lance, Lance, he should be proud of himself. That was really good because that can't be easy. Another thing that makes it very difficult is obviously your one person and they could pretend there's a gaggle of people that have all different opinions, but at the end of the day, they're all arguing Tim's position or one even further to the right. Yeah, it's like, do you want right, far right, or fascist, or theocratic?  And listen, Ian wasn't there when I was there, so I don't know how it would have been with me. Which one is Ian's?  He's definitely more, I guess, empathetic to the guest's viewpoint. He was the least hateable person there for sure, compared to juxtaposing him with Seamus. Like, that dude is a saint. Seamus, it just isn't sufferable.  And it's just like, I wish I was there to see, see the, I wish I was in the kitchen watching the, what is it called, the meatballs being made? The sausage. Right, the sausage being made, right. No, I got a question on that. Do you think that it's like a good cop, bad cop routine? Do you think that's maybe something to like, try to disarm you a little bit if you're there? Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I legit think all these guys hold the exact beliefs they have. I don't think, but maybe that's why Tim has pulled those specific people. I don't know, I know Seamus isn't on there all the time. I don't know when he decides to be on or how they decide to put him on. He was there when I was there. Ian is usually on, but again, Ian wasn't there when I was there.  Let's not put Ian on. But it's, I don't know why Tim picks who he picks. It's that simple. Also, sometimes that conspiracy theorist, Luke Rokowski or whatever's name is on the show. And he wasn't there today. So I don't know. I don't know. Luke, we are changed. That used to be a supposed leftist, right? Another supposed leftist. I don't think he ever, I think these guys showed up at Occupy and people pegged them is that because they were at Occupy and supported Occupy. I don't think, looking back, I don't think we ever really looked into what these guys believed outside of Occupy. I mean, for me, Tim's position was always a little bit bizarre because I recall back in the Occupy days, him purposely going out of his way to get in the face of Antifa people, causing civil disobedience, trying to legit, not just record what they're doing, but get in their face in terms of trying to identify them or out them. I know they very much, a lot of Antifa people did not like, or BlackBlock, however you want to consider who is down there. They did not like Tim's presence. They would awfully try to run him out of if they were in a space, they would try to get him out of there. I don't know exactly if there was any bigger tell then for me, but that was definitely a position where I was like, something's off about that. Real quick, I forgot to give Jeff the opportunity when he jumped on because we were watching, but can you plug your channels and stuff and tell people who you are just because I want to make sure while we still have a lot of people watching, they know who you are. Oh wow, yeah, I didn't even think about that.  Oh, yeah, I think so, too. I was actually quite surprised.  I'm like, no, you know. You've never heard of me, but I am going to tell you. So I run a YouTube channel, Waldorf Nation, check it out. We're 173,000 subscribers now, so we're getting close to 200,000.  Yeah, yeah, everybody go check out Jeff. Jeff is based, we love Jeff, and yeah. So anything else with regard to the Tim Pool debate, I should just check to make sure that they really did go to members only, but I kind of feel like there's not really much left for myself that I want to say, because I think that, yeah, I was scared at first, but Lance really did great. I'm scared. I was scared, I was scared man, that first couple of, like when, when Tim Pool started busting out different hypotheticals to justify vigilante murderism, murders, like how do you even, you're arguing with hypotheticals, you're not in reality, it's so hard to dispute that. So the only way that you can counter that is to make up things yourself.  Well, I mean, for me, like you look at and see what they're trying to do and what are you trying to do throughout the whole thing was to create a justification for murder, the justification for the death of a person who did not deserve to die. Regardless of whatever else that person had, may or may not had done, it was not deserving of a death sentence, it was not deserving, even though it, I would concede that he probably didn't mean to kill him, doesn't matter, that's the end result and there needs to be, there needs to be a form of justice in that. And that's a fact. Yeah, as Matt was saying too, it's like the left probably wouldn't be talking about this if the individual who committed that was brought to justice, was arrested and like he kept bringing up the 25 people that were pushing in front of trains. I mean Ole made the comment, right, they should be brought to justice as this guy too, like it just, all of this is so simple that it's like brain breaking, like you can tell like he's just trying to hide the ball, he doesn't want to say, I think that people should be allowed to commit murder, like vigilante-ism is good, like he doesn't want to say that, so he's got to kind of skirt around it and obfuscate and it gets to really weird places, that's why you have to use analogies and hypotheticals. Right, and it's only a certain type of vigilante-ism, kind that we, you know, if I'm a person on the right wing, for example, only the kind of vigilante-ism we like. Right, if we're left wing like an antifa person, like going and killing a Nazi, do you think that he would be in favor of vigilante-ism? Oh, well that Nazi was trying to, wanted to kill marginalized people, no, of course not, so yeah, you're right, that's a good caveat there, Jeff, it is a specific form, a very narrow kind of vigilante-ism. But that's what you get with Tim Pool to get these very, very niche, very, you know, edge-casey, bullshit examples, but all in service to the greater point that they're trying to, that he's trying to push, the greater narrative. And it's always the justification for whatever he wants to do, you know, for a specific topic. Yeah, he works, he works backwards from the conclusion he already wants to make. Like he's not trying to base his opinion on statistics or data or details. It's just, no, this is my position and I'm going to work backwards to justify that. And if I don't have facts, then I'm going to use a hypothetical or some other Weasley method to get from A to B. And that's what he does the whole time. Like, I don't watch Tim Pool very frequently, as I said, the last time I watched was with Matt Binder and that was also very painful, I thought that Matt Binder killed it, of course. But like, it's just listening to their bullshittery is so difficult. Like Ole could have killed their, like it's just, it's so hard because there's so disingenuous. But you know that's the case. And so, I mean, you have to, you can't look at it as if they're people that are acting in good faith. You know they're not. You know it's a game to them. You know it's a way to grab clicks and views. It's a way and not only that, of course, but to give the audience what they want. So basically, I guess what I'm saying is that who has no real opinions, no real beliefs, at least nothing that we know, we can't be sure, he's dishonest. He's a dishonest actor and he will not have ever have a good faith debate with someone. Right. Yeah. Yeah, well said. I'm not sure if you wanted to get to super chats yet. Yeah, let's, we might as well start doing them, right? Because we probably have quite a bit. I want to give their viewers shoutouts, but it's kind of it's going to be hard. I don't know. Yeah, because I don't have access. You have more access. I mean, if you actually scroll through all the freaking comments which would be impossible because it's every channel's comment in one, you could write them, but I can't, there's, I wish they gave a way to just see super chats. You know what I mean? Do you see that as the host? I mean, I could read I know you don't demonetized, right? Yeah, I don't, I don't see that. All right. Well, let me, let me read my super chats that you're not going to be able to go back and it's just too much. Yeah, here's what I will say though real quick is that I'm sure that the next time that the Vanguard and David Dole do a stream, they'll go back through and read all the super chats that they missed because you can do that like YouTube does save a log of them. Because I'm sure that they will get to it at some point. But yeah, we'll get to Matt's at least. Oh, I want to mention Scarlet Red, who's been on this show before. It seems like she has confirmed the individual who killed, the identity of the individual who killed Neely on the subway. Oh. It's on her Twitter Scarlet Red with an X for Scarlet SX Scarlet Red. She really lays out that she has a confirmation from former classmates. I'm not going to let's check it out. I don't want to take everyone should give credit to where to do and go read it there. All right, let's go to Super Chats here. I'll pull them up as they come up on the screen. Someone asked me, she's been on Leftist Mafia, not my show or any individual. I mean, she could have, but she hasn't been on my, she hasn't been on Doomed. She's been on Leftist Mafia before though. All right, let's read some Super Chats. Oh, what are you pulling up on the? I can pull them up as they come. Oh, OK. So maybe I'll want to just prioritize those, then we'll go through your backlog, Matt. OK, sure. So go ahead. OK, so here's one that I can see. This is from DurDevil. I don't know where these are coming from, by the way. This is for me. For Tony Rizzo. Matt, can you please check your Discord DMs? Oh, OK, I will. I'll do that. Yes. OK, and Foresto Mintero literally all ants had to say was pick anyone from the meta study when they were demanding, he provide individual studies. Yeah. Good point. I think that they didn't grasp that a meta study is a bunch of studies, like an overview of all the studies collectively and what the conclusion is. So just getting them to understand what a meta study was was very hard, but I think he did educate them at the end. We have Matt check your Discord DMs, friend. You better get to your DMs. I'm juicy. I'm really bad. I'm really bad. Tony Rizzo says to check your Discord DMs, Matt. Directive 4.  You know what? You know what? Why would I check my DMs when clearly it's monetizable to not check them? OK, that's all that I see coming through in the chat. So go ahead and and take it away. Here we go. Going through the ones telling me to check my DMs. That farstow mentor, one that you read was from my chat Daredevil with the DMs. Honeycat. Ian once said that he thought Kanye was bringing Jews to Jesus. So he definitely fits right in right. That's what I mean though. He says completely outlandish things. Like, I don't think he holds that. I don't think he holds any ideological position there. I think he just believes this one really bizarre thing, honestly. The Matt Mercy with the super chat abortion part could have been better, but Lance killed it. I mean, it's what it's it's, you know, it's it's you're running circles around these guys. It's going in just circles. It's just like it's almost there's certain topics that you're not going to break through. This one. It's Star Wars Day. It's Star Wars Day, right? It's a trap. Right. Right. This one. This one with a super chat 10 dollar super chat. Thank you. Lance went in there like a young undertaker in a Hell in a Cell match. Dude crushed it once he got momentum going. Right. Alan Hill with a super chat. Matt, love you. Just wanted to say that it's disgusting the way Tim frames his subscriber section as a cesspool of slurs. Is it that bad in reality? I mean, let's put it this way. Well, and I want when I want on Tim's pool Tim pool show at one point it came up that that what my ethnicity was and his and I was fine but I don't think Tim meant anything by it honestly and it came up and I said, well, I'm white. I'm Caucasian and people were legitimately surprised in the chat because they assumed I wasn't and then I don't know if I said something later on or someone looked into like tweets from me and they brought up then once it was found out though the chat immediately broke out into outbursts about how how I lied and was being disingenuous because they found out that I was a Jew which means I'm not white or Caucasian which tells you everything about what that audience is because only a very particular type of people ideological belief believes that Jews aren't Caucasian and can't be white. Yes. Can I say it?  Sure, yeah. Again, with the Star Wars references.  I mean if he knows that this is his audience he's got to at some point realize maybe you're attracting them maybe the arguments that you're using is appealing to these types of folks maybe I don't know do better but I mean they make him money that's if he turned away all the white supremacists like how much of his audience would be left you know what I mean he was talking about how his audience is like oh they're libertarians and stuff I don't know if they're tuning in for the libertarianism buddy right people often don't know that people I guess I do have dark skin color you know I have olive skin color cause I'm half Italian people usually think I'm either Indian cause I guess my last name that's the Prussian slash German side that's where that last name comes from I've heard people think I'm Latino which I've got a mistake and for a lot which is I don't care a mistake me for I'm Queens bring it I am pour it on me whatever you want to believe but you know it was interesting to see how the audience reacted it wasn't like oh I thought he was Hispanic or Latino or Indian it was Liar you're a Jew that's actually really scary though like that it is and it plays into those stereotypes as well that they use so that's probably why they kept bringing it up you know those any cinematic tropes I've got a Middle Eastern too I see people in the chat saying I thought he was Middle Eastern I've gotten that too I've had people say that I look like Prince I've had people say that I look like Mick Jagger I've had people say you know what I just I think you look like Matt Bender yeah thank you yeah thank you it's not a bad look not a bad look Lance is asking how'd I do on Twitter so it's over let's let him know I said you did terrible you're a disappointment to your entire family and all of your friends no I just said you fucking crushed it Lance I don't know where you are he's probably traveling he can't jump on but yeah I think that yeah you should all send him a lot of love because that's gotta be difficult man I can't imagine like I my brain was melting as I was listening so to be in there in that space with them in the compound where they could kidnap you if you wanted to like I told Lance before the stream I'm like yo man if you need help do SOS in morse code and that is three quick blinks three longer blinks three quick blinks SOS so we can send a rescue team to help them in case they decide to keep them there I'm just kidding but so you know the compound like we're calling it a compound first because that just immediately makes me think there's a 90% chances there's a sex dungeon somewhere and normally it'd be like oh yeah sex dungeon no not with those guys yeah that's such a great point because like that would imply that they have had sex yeah yeah no that's that's not happening and I just got at like the first question that I've got to ask Lance is like what did that room smell like like I don't know if I want to know but I'm curious at the same time like like can you smell the beanie the beanie has the beanie been washed like did he get close enough to realize it because I don't think it has so he probably smelt the beanie either that is there's I would like I wonder about the weirdest shit okay is there like a closet full of beanies or is there like because he's probably rich enough to afford something like this right is there like a robot that picks out a beanie every day and just places it on his head in the same in the same way every single day I don't think he ever takes off the beanie or yeah that's the other thing could he ever does he ever take off the beanie let's see here we got a super chat from Evan Christensen Lance made a strategic error not taking a laptop or iPad with him didn't have all the facts on oh no Lance did have his laptop with him yeah I thought he did yeah I wish I had mine because they didn't tell me I told Lance to bring it they'd never told me you could do that I never assumed that was a thing I think that listen I really do think that's a terrible way to have these discussions just throwing these the shit out at people when they can't even fucking read these are peer reviewed studies this is long ass shit you gotta read it's a very intricate you can't just bravo Tim was like let me skim you're gonna miss out miss out on things you're gonna miss out on details which are important in these it's just not the way to do these things it's just nonsensical and then they just outright throw away any sort of meaning they give to it by just saying that your study is bunk bullshit because they don't like the details that come in it's just pointless what's the point like yeah exactly if they're just going to reject the factual information studies that contradict theirs and why even bring it find another avenue to attack them tell Lance that this trans lady things he nailed it we will thank you see uh dj inmer inmyer i'm probably butcher in your name i'm sorry about that maybe shinmyer possibly possibly i'm the worst with names oh me too i'm terrible i butcher every i butcher every single name i see for me like since i have a difficult name to pronounce i just automatically can't pronounce other people's names like maybe it's a spell or something and i have to break it i got yours that's that's not too bad i got that one okay you kind of crushed that that was good any more super chats oh liya let me get back to that sorry i got distracted by these this tangent we went on awanda with a super chat i had to follow ole's lead applaud you and mike left this mafia parker with a super chat strap him down give the jab and mandatory CRT kowalski with a few super chats you can pry my pencil for my cold dead left hand where are my fellow left handed survivors lance walked in yelled world star and took him out balthazar 228 with a ten dollar super chat ultimately lance is treating this way too honestly this is tim pools audience we're talking to you have to talk to talk at a lower level confidently rather than eloquently try to explain to tim i mean i think lance did really good but you know i do think that's again one of the things with the studies it's just it's just you know they keep bringing it up i would i would if i went on next time i wouldn't try to go let me check that i'll be like i'll be like fine let's take that study fine let's work on it from there it's just pointless to cause they're just gonna shout down whatever study you throw at them aw but i you know lance was really prepared though so i don't know you know wanna get to this one really quick since we can see it wolf heart 1136 i think this is from the rational national tim puts the beanie on like vader with his helmet oh yes i love that yeah that's absolutely appropriate especially cause it's made a fourth good observation you know he does force is strong with that one yes and by force we mean smell well i met with a force strong with that super chat but yeah the beanie probably smells like the dark side alright that's an understate sorry go ahead matt no it's all good aw with the super chat if this was a street fighter match then lance is the grand master grand master of the parry move so far in this debate sick tim's moves are predictable yeah i mean once you get once you get once you get once you get a handle on on his style it is predictable but it does take reconfigurating i mean it's impossible to cause i've never i've had debates before when i went with on tim's show it was a jarring style it's no doubt about it it takes you a second to get ready for it and then change how you go about it to match michel harris with a ten dollar super chat it feels like i've come full circle i found out about binder when lance watched him on tim pool and now i'm watching matt watch lance on tim pool and tim's just as ridiculous as ever miss siren that's cool twenty dollar that is really cool can we get to this one really quick on the screen yeah go ahead if you have one cause i'm not looking at the screen right now cause i have another window open oh okay just let me know when you bring something up and i'll stop okay with regard to the super street fighter i just want to say that tim pool is chan li spamming the kick attack in the corner that's my take on that but this one colts fan three five four still running away is behind but god damn he always derails himself with a billion useless anecdotes yeah that's all we were complaining about it was very difficult to get through for sure he does that every time actually one we didn't get was the trolley what is it called the fucking trolley conundrum or whatever the hell it is trolley problem the trolley problem i like the trolley conundrum but it fits their style much better i feel like you'll hear like someone go that's a straw man it's the trolley conundrum that's the type of wording they like to use miss siren with a twenty dollar super chat just giving me twenty bucks thank you miss siren no comment added e-j with a super chat tim pool reminds me of my sister's husband he walks around with knives and guns strapped all over his body parroting, crowder and pool, posers wait he walks around knives and guns that's really unhinged i want you and i hope your sister's alright that's very weird i have another one here man come ahead, yep so this is from joann winahan it's ten dollars i don't know who it's to probably the vanguard the kind of study shamus was demanding would involve assigning treatments to cis and trans folks i.e. some cis folks would be assigned to do trans treatments okay thank you very much my brain is too fried to process im processing it now right, yes, yes some cis folks to be assigned yes, that's right joan, yes samuel with a twenty seven ninety nine dollar canadian super chat thank you, wow nailed it binder unfortunately i don't know the context of what i nailed but i'm sure i nailed plenty so i appreciate it im got a two dollar here go ahead matt mercy who's more vagely ethnic binder or bad empanada i don't know what bad empanada looks like i don't know who that is is it because his name is bad empanada is that the joke i know the name but i don't think i've ever seen what he looks like so i can't answer that unfortunately i just wanna say i've never claimed to be anything so you know you could say that maybe if maybe what you're saying is bad empanada has the name empanada in his name and that's why people would assume my name is matt binder that's my real name i don't think it sounds i think it sounds pretty like basic i guess i don't think it sounds very latino or indian even i think i think it actually does sound rather german honestly because it's not binder or bindi i guess it's binder i think i thought of binders full of women and then it made me think of Mitt Romney all right well it is spelled the same row back yeah it is right crew herks with two super chats all total of 15 bucks let me read both not an MMA fighter but i don't need to be to know stopping blood flow to a person's brain for three minutes is gonna kill them or cause permit damage also as someone who actually lives in NYC it's an unspoken rule that we monitor own business when someone is having an episode if they aren't in danger we don't go Batman on them right parka with a super chat it's so funny seeing Ole and Nia joking and laughing while they're on mute i wish i knew yeah i understand Ole's feelings on this she doesn't you know i do think the hill is a different beast than this i know that there is overlap but i don't think it's quite the same i think hill the hill tries to position themselves as a more serious newscast even though the material might not be but they do try to come across more am i wrong for throwing that out there i don't want you that much i can't even speak to the hill because i only see clips if they go viral or whatnot so i honestly don't know but i know that she has put up with some just birdbrained shit on there and she gets attacked by the audience so i a thousand percent understand her decision to bow out although we haven't gotten our sufficient fix of Ole for the week so next week is gonna be very very we're all gonna have so much more energy next week and like be excited i do have a 199 for being a lefty ai chatbot Lance did well yeah i think so too it's funny because on his twitter thread where he's asking that he's getting attacked by a bunch of brightwingers who watched it and they're like you did terrible just like clown emojis and like i said he killed it and they're responding is this a real account and Ben Shapiro is hot responded saying oh by it do you mean yourself like oh they're they're celebrating this as a dub i mean look i think that regardless of who's debating my comment my comment to Lance because i have to obviously do the binder way of course i said not as good as me that was a good response i actually think i think Lance personally i think Lance did better seriously not even joking i think he did i think we both did good i think he had i think he went on and was able to speak to topics that he is an expert on and i was on a show that which just happened that the main topic was abortion and i believe that women have the right to choose what to do with their own body no if ends but no addendums no it's very simple for me and i don't care to go i don't need to look any further into that and it's just that simple for me i it's not an area i particularly i'm interested in because of that i mean i don't need to be affirmed or let me look at the data and see if my position is right no it's a very easy position for me to hold without having to look at a single fucking thing you cannot force someone to do something with their own body it's just that simple yes all the data in the world all the argument in the world is not going to change um i have a another super chat by the way from Jededaya oh yeah yummy i think this is from Rational National Kowalski is everywhere even on wisecrack yeah shout out to Kowalski and by the way there is an Aaron bell on the facebook chat with some really wild takes so you want our attention hi Aaron we see you you're silly you're stupid congratulations so also we have Prairie fire a little better but Matt you have legs that is true Matt does have legs no i mean i think i don't i don't care to prepare like he did honestly did you what was your level of preparation beforehand did you do any of these the reason the reason he invited me on though we never even got to on the show and it was the only actual documentation i brought we had an argument over this was when Libs of Tiktok post got unveiled and Tim claimed that Taylor Lorenz of the Washington Post actually doxed her address but she never did that and so actually brought full blown documentation i had all of higher right check of Libs of Tiktok's actual records of where she lived because i got i went public records and i got all of her voting records and where she was registered to vote every single year for the past like ten years and her address is matched up with the address that Taylor Lorenz posted which was the address of the real estate license she didn't even post an address she posted the documentation of the real estate license to prove that it was higher right check and the real estate license had an address on there but the address was the same of every other real estate license connected to that real estate firm because it was the actual place of business there for months anymore she had moved to Los Angeles so it wasn't even her current workplace it was just an address connected to a former employee employer just to prove that she had the right individual and so i had all this documentation we got sidetracked by these other issues and then when i brought it up at the very end Tim was like hey we don't have time doesn't matter and we never got a chance to approach it but in terms of studies and stuff i really don't think it's helpful i do see how it would help without Lance on an issue that he's really you know was prepared for to discuss like he brought the conversation there which was very smart for him i just didn't it's not it's not it wasn't necessary for me like for example when i spoke at Michael Tracy we had a debate when he went to that school in Connecticut to discuss covid policies on the college Michael Tracy wanted to discuss like the covid policy and i was like i don't care i don't care about the covid policy at this one fucking school in Connecticut it doesn't matter what matters is your reporting on this school you're talking from a place of expertise on this covid policy fine who did you speak to about the covid policies being you know too draconian not necessary like what health expert did you speak to and Michael Tracy was like i didn't speak to a single one and i was like what you wrote an article about covid and didn't speak to a single expert source this is a health this is health reporting what are you talking about he was like i didn't think it was necessary and i was like you didn't think it was necessary to speak to a doctor or a health professional to talk to write an article about covid policy that's all i needed to do i didn't need to throw stats and statistics his his whole framing his whole position is bunk when he didn't he didn't even go out of his way to find the specific one that even agreed with him which he certainly could have even found he didn't even do that to me that's all i need to do for these things i think that you Matt you and Sam Cedar have the same really good like off the cuff style to where you're really quick on your toes so like i don't think that you need to prepare and if anything if you like getting something and having a good response to it so yeah i think you still you still crushed it too don't don't undersell yourself but i want to get to a superchat from Loic i was still on the screen Lance said pegging and it's solicited a very peaked reaction sexual anarchy yes also pluvis with a $5 superchat whenever i hear anyone bring up the dilation reality TV girl i want to shout about their retainer oh my god yes that's a really great way to respond to that because yeah it's so weird like why isn't she keeping up proper maintenance of her vagina like we're talking you're talking about this why are you talking about this that was such a weird moment and i'm glad that Lance just straight up was like do you know that this is really weird because it was like there's no justification to be talking about this you can't make a pro trans argument or anti trans argument you don't need to invoke that to make any kind of an argument it's just it's so bizarre and inappropriate that it's just i can't it was awful they keep bringing up bizarre and inappropriate stuff i mean it's all about the focus on womes and a reproduction and tim literally called Lance the supporter of the genocide of transgender i'm like what the fuck a very powerful no you it just blew my mind i was like you're seriously gonna make that argument how do you think this works how do you think people trans how do you think trans people are made how do you think trans people are created they come from look Matt you made the point i don't have to make it again all the points were made it just blew my mind all these damn cis people cis straight people keep having all these gay and trans babies i mean god damn you're pumping up our numbers get better what's a rookie number so yeah yeah we can we can up it by 20% okay matt do you have any more super chats i do one second let me pull it up okay they're coming in man they're coming in i can't complain but they're coming in if you guys gotta jump i'll just keep oh you can't jump because you're the host that's okay i'm good pluvius with a super chat whenever i hear anyone bring up the dilation reality tv girl i wanna shout have you never seen a mom freak out at their kid about their retainer oh did you read that one i did yeah that was a great one also why it's very bizarre for them to use what is her name jazz jennings as an example when she seems to be a completely well adjusted very happy trans woman like that's your example someone who is really happy to have transitioned like very bad example on their part like they could actually pull like an actual example of and it would be disingenuous but at least it would fit their framing because everyone anyone could suffer from depression whether you're trans or not the trans person would still be depressed after the transition well there's plenty of straight cisgender people who suffer from depression and continually suffer from it what is your point they could get all the help and the dedication they need and they could still suffer from it and the depression isn't necessarily due to them being trans or whatever it's due to discrimination I mean Jesus Christ dapperize I can't take super chat oh wrong one I can't take super chats currently so feel free to direct them to Matt Binder or the vanguard or rational national my channel doesn't have monetization currently it'll be turned on hopefully soon do you have a patreon or something they can donate to oh yeah yeah but I won't be able to see like the messages or anything like that at least like right now so yeah just I appreciate the kind thought kind thought though Loic with a super chat oh wait that's the pegging one all right Jesus Matt Mercy read that one the Joan one you read oh Colts fan still running a ways behind but god damn he always derails himself with a billion useless I did read that one too oh here we go see the Jinmyer tell Lance this trans lady thinks he nailed it I will already read that one really yeah I'm tired man you're the freshest person in here help us out dear devil Binder is a person of cola Coca Cola POC that's a good one that's a good one I am a soda man all right I think that's everybody I think I hit up everybody that's it hey hey we did it folks oh man this this has been njerli a 4 hour stream here so I what time is it on the east coast it's like what 11 yeah it's it's 11 yep we did a long stream but it was worth it one of our buddies was having a big moment I think he killed it I think so too what he needed to do that this was an important I don't know it might be too late I guess but what I did was I made sure to let them know that I take calls on my stream and that there's it's something that none of these shows they watch too you can't call Tim Pool he'll read your super jazz but that's not a discussion I let them know that anyone and it's open to them especially can call into my show and quite a few of them did and we had long discussions and at the end a lot of them walked away like I don't know if I changed their minds but they walked away you know saying I agree with some things you said you know it's I think that's an important part but I was watching a couple of those actually but what if you want to take calls like me but like it doesn't work when you try to do it I try to I try to take calls on on Twitch streams and the only thing that I could get to work was Skype but everybody had did not have Skype so I tried Discord and I couldn't figure it out because I'm a boomer so yeah oh no I have a more sad story like I used to try to take calls on my show like way back and there's like nobody that would call in so sad sad face I mean it'd probably work out better if I did it now but you know yeah it's like it's the difficulty of being a streamer either something doesn't work or when you get it to work nobody cares yeah yeah it's a sad life well so we still have quite a bit of people watching do you guys want to give shoutouts plug anything that you're doing because I actually have a shoutout and a plug oh yeah let me let people ask if I'm going to take calls now I am exhausted guys I've been we started this we started this an hour earlier than usual we've been streaming since 7.30 so we're and we listen to hours of Tim Pool that does a lot to you we're about to hit hour four we're about to hit hour four and listen I'm not I'm not one of those streamers that just streams what I'm doing and you guys are watching and I'm doing playing video games or we're doing something else I respect people who do that but I don't do that you watched four hours of me actively engaging with very political and serious content and stupid boys with you guys I can't my brain is fried I can't give you guys any sort of you know if I took calls right now you'd be going you'd be asking me some really smart questions and I'd be going what did you just repeat that again I can't what like I've got to say like I've done long streams before and they've been exhausting but when you have to endure hours of Tim Pool it really it's just exponentially more like draining mentally oops I've cooked the wrong one there's another super chat that just popped up I want to get to that Prairie Fire 199 take calls or I'll drown a fish you can't drown a fish so haha jokes on you thank you though for that I believe that was to that might be to bender actually I'm not sure though well let me real quick I will be on unbossed with Nina Turner tomorrow at 1 p.m. p.t. so tune into that that's going to be super duper fun I always love oh that's on the TYT Network right yeah so you guys have not been banished right I have not haha no we have not been banished I'm not far Wait, Jeff, are you on the TYT Network? Yeah hahaha are you afraid okay I'm kind of like you were afraid I was going to get you in trouble no no no you were like Jeff I'm technically not on they I'm unplugged from the network it's a mutual thing which is why I can't do monetization currently because YouTube has to re-approve me so TYT is not my network partner anymore no drama no nothing there it's not like I was kicked out or anything like that just a demonetization BS yeah yeah so TYT is trying to help me currently get monetization back even though I'm not their network partner shout out to Aaron he's really really great oh yeah yeah yeah so yeah that's why I can't do monetization but no no I'm what did you do you were naughty weren't you no we criticize the Anna K's no no no I meant on the demonetization oh so what happens is if you leave your multi-channel multi-channel network which is what TY was to me it is the same to you oh ok it resets your monetization status so they have to re-review you and make sure that you're approvable because I was approvable under the banner of TYT but on my own they're like hmm so it could take 30 days so I'm flying demonetization for basically Mike's been riding on TYT's coat tails this entire time it hasn't well you know what William is frustrating is that he's never been monetized on his own merits no I will that's the thing it's like YouTube already did this process they approved me for monetization and then I joined TYT and then I was just automatically monetized through them that wasn't an issue but like if they were if I was monetized by myself before then why do you have to re-approve it and I talked to Y2 about this and they're like it's gonna take two to four weeks sorry so it's like ok that's ok yeah I would take a two to four week vacation no lot yeah yeah I mean it's a little bit you still gotta feed the algorithm probably so that way when you get monetization back you can hit the ground running but look I'm not gonna complain because you know thankfully I can absorb the blow it's painful oh yeah but I can absorb the blow so I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna freak out about it you know just it's part of the process you know if you're a YouTuber and you have an MCN just don't sign up for an MCN because when you leave an MCN it doesn't matter who it is you're gonna end up having to reapply for monetization and thankfully TYT is really great and they're like trying to help still like to get monetization back so you know it's nice because there's still a good resource you know by the way we have another superchat from 0PE David was on TYT main show Friday and killed it ok very cool I did not see that actually I haven't been watching any political content because my brain is mush and I just need like a mental break but yeah I'll have to off to check that out ok do you all have any any channels I've already plugged so yeah let me plug folks youtube.com slash Matt Binder please subscribe I don't have a YouTube channel as big as Mike and David Dole's how many subscribers you got Jeff 173,000 I don't even got as many as Jeff jeze I really am really lacking it on the YouTube channel front I'm very close to 30,000 subs though so help me get that so there you go everyone go sub to Matt that's right also you're beating us on twitch right now yeah Matt am I that's what was it Joe Spinner Joe Spinner says you're beating beating us on twitch there you go I guess I'm the I'm the king of twitch I'm beating you guys on blue sky you are and twitter and twitter got any of the blue sky codes for me I don't I'm sorry I really don't I will say I will say really funny someone looked into like the blue sky data and like found what the major groupings were and like there's like crypto grouping art grouping grouping and I'm in a I'm in the mainstream slash politics grouping and they pulled the top 10 accounts in that grouping and it was like AOC Jake Tapper Parker Malloy Ben Collins of NBC and hell yeah look at you so I gotta really I gotta focus on the blue sky front once again Matt Binder flox to the one platform that does not pay you and besides this is where I'm gonna stake my my reputation I got I got I got the the twitter followers and everything twitter doesn't pay you now I'm doing blue sky blue sky doesn't pay you could have done YouTube get paid could have done Facebook get paid could have done tiktok get paid but why are we not on Facebook why would I do that I mean I don't have a bit I just have a personal Facebook account I don't have any like see I upload every single video to Facebook I just don't have I've got a very large right wing audience on Facebook you do really oh yeah oh yeah I get lots of really interesting messages DMs in particular one more super chat here from patrice hubbard 999 this is to it's not rational national it's either Binder or vanguard they say hey I don't know how politicon goes but I would definitely go if the leftist mafia or whatever still waiting on tour dates hey well that's that's good to know they got they're already doing it it's coming up in like two weeks there's no way that oh is it okay so we are we're too late maybe the following year though it depends on where it is because I wouldn't want to go to Florida for example they're doing a tour this year they're doing May 12 then Portland, Oregon May 19 oh no shit I didn't get an invite fuck you politicon it's actually doesn't look like it's an official politicon it's a politicon presents sisters in law maybe that's why you're not invited oh okay that's okay sorry I left out that bit of information it's a it's a tour of it looks like various women in the political space that would I get the lack of invite okay but they're also they're also promoting their podcasts on their page now I guess they have a politicon podcast network and two of the podcasts are one with James Carville and another one with Mary Trump oh that sounds amazing god we're missing out I don't think we're their target audience for that I don't know if they're still doing the broader sort of political gatherings political influencer gatherings whatever although I've got to say if leftist mafia showed up to politicon we would crush it because the family is very very very enthusiastic and vocal we have the best viewers and I think we I think we would be probably more popular than James Carville I'll say that without a doubt yeah James Crypt Keeper Carville that's a good I was just thinking about that Lance just got back to me after seeing the DMs apparently he was oh that's why they said ok ok that makes sense ok ok tell Lance to jump on let's go another hour and a half two hours three hours I'm so fresh fresh as da oh one more super chat this is from Pluvius five dollars speaking of blue sky has anyone else noticed that the right wingers seem to be calling it blue ski like it's a Russian conspiracy I know right wingers like Mike Figurato of the humanist I noticed I did it on accident when I was talking about it too and I don't know which video was but I called it blue ski and then blue sky again someone pointed out that if you have the if you if you're cause someone was reading a tech dirt article on blue sky and they were reading it via like one of those a text of voice things like maybe it was even Siri but the text of voice generator is even say blue ski so oh ok so you just you just have AI brain you just have machine AI brain Mike I'm an NPC you're no better yeah you're no better than an AI alright folks so what you say should we call it a night is that it anymore or should we try to should we try to goat lance at the jumping on yeah let's get him see if he can do it really no he's probably there still that yeah he's probably traveling to it would be really cool to talk to him but I don't think I will say when I no he definitely can't cause when I finished I don't know if it's different cause they were doing after hours thing on the Tim pool network off YouTube but when I was done Tim got it was very cordial they treated me very nice when I was there his crew is very nice which is you know very basic you should be able to do that to people I would treat if someone came to my home after I invited them I would certainly treat them very nice regardless of who they were just basic human level and but after Tim was really like combated with me even off air I was very weird it was bizarre that is weird yes which he wasn't like he did the weird things like the cleaning of the gun before to the show but it wasn't like outright but afterwards he was oh you didn't hear this I told the story my first time meeting Tim pool sitting in the studio waiting for his arrival he comes in he goes right to his wall takes a gun off the wall and starts cleaning it right in front of me like a real gun like the one he has on the wall just that's his hello to me like he just says hey and he's talking to me while he's cleaning his gun and then you know that civil war relic he mentioned at the very beginning before the show he actually told me to come over to it he asked me if I wanted to pick it up I had no idea what would happen to this civil war relic it was really that old so I declined to pick it up and it crumbled in my hands so I just said no and that's fine I'm looking at it it's cool and so apparently later on on a future stream he was like I had a guy on the left on my show and he was afraid to touch the gun if Tim asked me to touch one of his non-old ass relic guns sure I would have obliged and said yeah I'll hold it but I wasn't gonna I wouldn't touch it up I didn't want to be I don't know if it was you just broke my gunman when it was an already broken gun I didn't want to you pick it up and you're like pew pew pew no no if it falls apart in my hand it's just like what are you gonna do you gave it to me yep by the way, 199 I learned again, I'm a New Yorker you just mind your own business you don't touch something that's not yours it's a good policy overall for sure okay, 199 Super Chat from Prairie Fire shout out to him you all are far left Tim, far right I'm far Ming and for those of you who don't know Prairie Fire is an IRL farmer so nice yes, yes alright folks well, I think that we'll call it there a lot of commenters are saying let Rance let Lance rest Rance sounds like a Game of Thrones character Rance Rance of the Serfs Rance of Prebis Rance of Prebis we will let Rance left no, we'll let Lance rest and yeah, we'll see you all next week for a normal episode of the leftist mafia at our normal time there really is no such thing as a normal episode that's true that's true that's true that's true oh, thanks for letting me jump in by the way we'll have to bring you on proper you gotta come on and no, I think you've you've made your appearance that's it go to the back of the line, Jeff get back there you'll be on there's like a hundred other leftists now that'll come on and you'll come on in two years no, you'll come on let's get you on let's get you on an actual episode all right, let's get you on an actual full bonus yeah, yeah for sure it'll be great it'll be a lot of fun all right, folks we'll see you next week take care, everyone you can't see my arm but I'm waving


Hi, it's Bridget. Welcome to Above Life channel. The purpose is to inspire your spirit and today we have one of our weekly channeled conversations with the afterlife. We will be speaking to Alan Thicke. Do you remember Alan Thicke? He was that great TV dad from growing pains. Well, that's at least that's how I know him. And so I thought, hey, let's interview him. Let's chat with him in the afterlife. All right, so let's bring him forward and see if he's willing to come in. All right, so I can feel his energy. He's kind of kitty corner here from me and he kind of looks, he's got kind of this, it's kind of funny.  And like a heaven, a heaven or afterlife cartoon kind of thing almost like, you know, blue sky and kind of a bubbly cloud. And then his head kind of appears like I see his profile, the view of him and he's smiling. He actually has glasses on. And I can kind of, now I'm kind of seeing his face and he's showing up more clearly. I can see the features of his face. It kind of feels like he has a little bit more of a, not quite an oval face, but more of a little bit more of a rectangle face in his features. And that's how I see him. And just looking at him, he looks like he's probably in his 68. So in his late 60s, mid to late 60s, not 65, I'm older than 65. He's like going up. He's like, but thank you. Thank you. Like, you're welcome. I don't think he's 70. I think he's just shy of 70. I feel like he died of, can you tell me what you, can you give me some kind of information about that? Because I'm not really sure. I kind of, I'm a little mixed here, you guys, I feel heart. I have heart issues. I don't know if he was on heart medication, or if he actually had a heart attack previously, or if that was the, he's like, that's not really the reason why it passed. It kind of looks like there was like something going on with the heart and the blood and then like something went up to the brain and kind of like just, I don't know what it is. It's sorry to be so graphic, you guys, but it feels like a pop.  And so it feels like it was a two step process or a three step process or it was a process. And he said, I wasn't surprised. He said, I feel like he had heart issues anyway or heart or he was aware of how he needed to take care of himself or his heart. And it could be because his dad had heart issues. I feel like maybe a hereditary thing that does feel accurate to me. Again, I don't know how I don't know how he died. I don't know how old he was. I don't know the details about him. He just popped in to ask somebody that I thought would be kind of fun to talk to, you know, I have been making my rounds in the movie genres and now it's the sitcom areas. And so can you talk a little bit about, and it's kind of nice because it's not like when I ask him about how he died right away. And usually I don't necessarily, I shouldn't say usually I don't do that, but I kind of, I used to feel like it was really rude to do that. But he right away was, he's making me feel, me feel as the medium, very comfortable. Like it's just a matter of, it's just a fact of life. Oh, that kind of thing. You know, Facts of Life was a TV show also during the time of growing pains. So he's like, it's just a fact of life.  He's funny. He's charming. He loves golf. He's telling me he loves to play golf. And he looks rather tan. So and I'm thinking, I'm feeling the words Palm Beach. So I don't know if it's Florida or California. I'm feeling like I'm going down to Florida for something. And then maybe for golfing, maybe to relax, maybe there's a vacation there, maybe there's a family home there, but I feel like I'm going down to Florida. I'm going down to Florida. That's how I feel. I feel that to be by, by the golf courses and the ocean, I really feel like he liked golf. I don't know why, but I see him mowing the lawn. I don't know what that's about. Why would I see a maculite yard or something? Something something funny about lawnmowers or mowing the lawn or the sound of the lawnmowers or the fresh cut grass or something. He's giving me like sensory experiences. Like I can hear the lawnmower and I can feel the vibration on the handle like the old pushmores. He's like, remember when used to do that. Oh, so they do more people's lawns growing up maybe they make some money. I don't know. He's like, I'm he's giving me the sensations and lots of green, tons of green, tons of green.  His energy feels uplifting, positive. I feel like he could be a motivational speaker. Like really inspiring. Like I feel like positive effect on other people. I feel like he wasn't one of the creepy people in Hollywood. He was I feel like he was a stand-up guy. He says thank you. He said thank you. I feel like he was friends with Michael Keaton. Does that make sense? Unless he's referring are you referring to another because there's another TV show. There was another TV show right about that time with Michael J. Fox. Family ties. Maybe he's oh he's comparing himself. Oh he's got such good energy. I feel really good talking to you Alan. You just have just a great energy. He says thank you. Thank you. He says so do you. Back at ya. He's like trying to be cool. Back at ya. He's got like this bomber jacket on. Remember how that was like cool to have those bomber jackets? It's like a brown leather jacket and he's like all cool. He's like right back at ya. He's comparing himself to the other TV dad who I believe the character's name was Michael Keaton. I know there's an actor that is also named Michael Keaton but I think he's referring to the other dad, other dad in his sitcom Family Ties and I think his their names were Keaton and I think I think the dad's name was Michael. I think so. I'm not 100% sure on that. I've got to fact check that but I think he's comparing himself to other TV dad. Now it may be that they may have been up for some kind of an award and the other one of them got it over the other or that kind of thing. But like a little bit of a friendly kind of bantering competition kind of thing but really really nice. Like Alan really really really nice guy. I feel like he has kids. He at least has a couple of daughters. It looks like two daughters and maybe a son but it does look like he may have been remarried so he might have a step child, a step son. He also has grandchildren. He's like I got grandkids. I think he's got six maybe at the time of his death. I feel like he died 2015, 14, 16. He's like I almost died a few times. I feel like he had hard stuff. I really do. There's something going on with that body. It's not super healthy and he knows it so he's got to monitor. I feel like it's heart related. It could be blood pressure. I feel like it's heart related. I don't think it's diabetes. It does not feel like that. It feels like heart related. So I feel the kids stuff. I think six or seven grandkids at the time. I was trying to get the time of your death. So shake me back. 2017, 2016, 14. 14 sticks up to me. 14, 2014 and 2016 stick up to me and I don't know if it's because it was a year after. 17? Did he just recently die? Maybe he did. I don't know. I'm super bad. You guys, I'm so bad with time. So it was between 2014 and 2017 that he died. He's mentioning somebody named Joan. I don't know who that is but it's my name Joan. And so again I feel like he was married in a bar so he had two different I think marriages and then he just said yep and I think he said you missed one or I missed one. I missed one. That's interesting. So what does that mean? I missed one. I missed one of my marriages. I missed one. I feel like he married his childhood sweetheart and then I feel like either it didn't work out or he came back to his childhood sweetheart. Like I feel like this romantic really young love energy unless he means I should have married her. I should have married my high school sweetheart kind of a thing. I see somebody named Margaret or Peggy. He's referring to his Peggy. I think he's been in movies. He shows me a couple of movies. He shows me an old time movie like with old cars like 1950s cars. I feel that so I think he was, I know he was in at least two, three. I think he was in three movies that I would maybe recognize if I looked back over his career. He says he had a lot of respect for the writers for the show and shows. I feel like he's been on two shows. I don't know what others that come or what other TV shows he may have been on but I feel like he's showing me two. And I see him. He's saying I was just a regular guy going to the grocery store kind of thing and like he wasn't bothered by other people coming up to him. He just kind of took it all in stride. It wasn't a big deal to him. It was just part of life, part of the experience of being an actor I guess. And he says he goes back to the writers. He says I have a lot of respect for the writers. I don't know if there was like a writer strike during the time that he was on a show or something but he's like supporting showing support for the writers. Like he really wants to say hey support the writers. Without the writers all of this wouldn't be possible. We can only do so much he says with stand up and improv. He said let's be clear on that. There has to be a decent storyline in order to follow and he says growing canes in particular is one of those shows that will transcend time. You could watch it today and you would get the same kind of values and the same kind of feel good vibes that you got then. And he says although we tackled some challenging issues we did it in ways that made sense for the time and also I think transcends time. He says it's a good legacy to have and I think it would be totally applicable today except you know you'd have to add some smartphones in. He says you have to add some smartphones in so that kind of thing. And then he has glasses on like he's trying to read them. He's like trying to read the smartphones. He also talks about liking to read, read books. Like I see books, stacks and stacks of books. And going to college I don't know what that's about. Stacks and stacks of books and going to college. I'm not sure what that's about. Is there anything that you would be able to tell us that would help us to be better people? So like advice from the afterlife now that you're like a spirit right? Because you're crossed over.  I can feel that correct? He's like absolutely, absolutely. And it doesn't feel like you're reincarnated. Oh no not yet. It's too early for that. He says yeah I'm thinking he may have died recently like 2016. I don't know 15 maybe. I'm so bad with the times. He says oh it's okay. It's okay. All right so let's see so what kind of advice would you give us to be so we can be better people? Advice from the afterlife. He says don't worry so much. He's like don't sweat the small stuff. It really doesn't matter. Again the grand scheme of things. The stuff you're worrying about really has no bearing on the outcome. The ultimate outcome. And when you have the chance to stand at the doorway and look back upon your life you want to make sure that you took advantage of every moment that you had. Every moment. Every moment that you had. And invest in your relationships. That's the other piece of advice I would give. He says invest in your relationships because that's what lasts. After you are gone done and gone the relationships that you've built lasts. That will sustain your loved ones. That will sustain your family is those relationships. That's important. You got to invest in relationships. Your relationships. Thank you. That's awesome. Great advice. Great advice. Oh I wanted to ask one more thing as well. So at the time of transition I've asked other energies that I've spoken to. What was it like? Like can you describe a little bit maybe?  Like after you left the body. Like were you surprised about how how you felt or about the afterlife. How did you feel about that? Can you share a little bit about your experience? He's like talking about how it's kind of like squeezing a balloon. Like a balloon with air in it and you're you know you have it. So you have a kid that has a balloon and it's starting to like lose its air. He's like I'm not talking about the helium ones. I'm talking about just a regular old school balloon and it's kind of you know you're squeezing the balloon. The kid's playing with it. They're squeezing it because it doesn't have a lot of air in it and all of a sudden boom it's done. It's gone. And there's kind of like a startle. Like a shock. Like a oh oh okay. And then there's just air. There's just nothing. All of a sudden there's no edges. There's no body. There's no there's just it's just your it's like I would describe it. This might sound a little freaky. He says these are his words. This might sound a little freaky but it feels like air. Like it just feels like like air. There's no there's no boundaries. No edges. It's just air and it really feels quite nice. It's much more relaxed because oftentimes when I think when in our lives we experience the stress or stressful times or stressful moments our bodies get tense really tight and especially when you're sick. Like it's like you're working so hard to keep your blood pumping to keep your heart moving. You're very you're aware of the things your body is doing to try to keep itself going to sustain you. And it's just so hard. It's working so hard that when you just let go of that then there's just this there's air. There's just this nothing. There's none of that stress. There's no there's no pressure. There's no intenseness. It's just everything's lighter. You feel there's a feeling of air. Just air is the best way I would describe it. And I'm sure it's probably different for a little bit different for everyone so but that's that's my account. That's how I felt. Okay and he says aren't you going to ask me who greeted me? Like yeah like heaven's not a place. I know that but it's a sensation or an energetic experience or expression of whatever our mind. I know this Bridget's talking here of whatever our mind expects to that helps us to transition. That helps it to not be so odd or weird or awkward for us to make that transition but yeah so tell us did somebody greet you? Did you go to like to light or anything like that? He said it was nothing like that. It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that for me. He says it wasn't like that for me. He says but I know that my loved ones were there that have gone before me. I could see I could sense my grandma feel see you don't really have eyes. It's not the same kind of thing. He says but I knew I know in my knowing that my grandma was there and the knowing is the spirit that you talked about. He's referring I just did a video about this about intuition and soul connection so he's referring up to that back to that. That knowing is that soul acknowledging recognizing grandma familiar energy and so he says my grandmother was there to greet me. If there was a greeting there wasn't really a greeting there's just much there's just this awareness in this air space is how it feels. Thank you. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen Mr. Alan Thicke, you were just a pleasure.  What a nice energy vibration that was. Very nice. Remember Alan Thicke was the dad on grilling pains so that's not your genre. That was my genre so it's kind of fun to talk to you. Thank you so much for being here. We appreciate it very very much. This is Bridget with Above Life Channel. 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