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Yeah, look, it's streaming now on Restythe and all podcasting platforms. Shout out to James Willems. And now we're on to our show. Hello! Welcome to I Have Notes, the show where we have notes and the points don't matter. We talk creativity, animation, and stonks. I am your host, Isabeliola. I have zero stocks in GameStop. And joining me back in town is Keri Stockcross. They call me Stonkboy. I have an indeterminate number of GameStop Stonks now because I am a trend chaser. But Keri will tell because his information is protected by ExpressVPN. In my mouth. In his mouth. And to break tradition for a bit because I wanted to do a special intro, next up is our hedge fund manager who doesn't actually manage our money, Erin Wynne. I don't know anything about stonks, so uh oh. Oh no, boy. And newcomers starting from the bottom, now we're here to be rich coal galleon. I'll do anything. Is that your summer house? From all the Game Stonks? From all the Game Stonks. That's my catchphrase. I'll do anything. Well okay. I'll do anything, Keri. Anything up there. I see you up there. I feel like you're embracing way too much of the Wolf of Wall Street kind of 80s mentality. I'm fast money now Keri. The Wolf of Wall Street. I learned a lot in the past day. What does Wolf of Wall Street look like now?  Jordan Belfort. Jordan Belfort. I'm talking about them. I get it. I get it. He looks about the same. He looks like a stone. Hey, why are Flintstones vitamin kids vitamins? What makes them? Can I? Hang on. Are you going to Google that? You can still have Flintstones vitamins. You can still have them. It's just vitamins that it's encouraging kids to take because vitamins probably taste nasty. Do kids nowadays even know who the Flintstones are? They probably think they're the vitamin people. Also just real quick, we don't have to go into this too much. Target's review to the average rating is two stars of 68 reviews of Flintstones chewable tablets. Oh no, what? Something's wrong.  I'm just going to click on this link and see if I can. The three promises Flintstones vitamins make to you.  Keep going. How is everyone right now? Just in the moment. Oh, it's good. I'm present. I took a nap today. I took a nap today too. I feel fresh. How are you, Issa? I'm good. There is a whole debacle. I had just an hour ago where we found like a missing dog and it turned out to be our neighbor's dog. But that all worked out. It was a very interesting.  So we figured it out. Duality of man. The duality of dog. Duality of dog. I can tell you how my day's going. Heather 27 on Target. 30 years of loyalty down the drain. There is a new formula and it tastes awful. But they've always tasted awful. They did. Wait, are you telling me they messed with the formula? And just one of the parts of their sentence that answered my question, because they're 30. I'm almost 30. My mother took them, then I did in parentheses and never stopped, which I then passed down the love of them to my son. Addiction. It's called an addiction. Three generations of Flintstone vitamin eaters and gone down the drain. Down the drain. Because of the one formula change. I guess I shouldn't invest in Flintstone. They're going to come back with Flintstone vitamin classic. And then they're going to get the whole wave back. Like we listen to the people. We're bringing back the Flintstone vitamins you like.  You can chew on them. You can swallow them whole for all we care. But it's the same formula you always loved. But we did change one thing. But we're not going to tell you. Flintstone's vitamins classic. Okay. So all of the reviews, the bad reviews have been about the taste except for this one. This is the last one I'm going to do. I'm sorry. It's from Mama Bear. Can't get top off the bottle. It's too child-proof.   So the amount of strength. She's going to use her bare hands to open them. She's going to use more than that because she says I'm going to have to cut it open with a box cutter. Maybe Mama doesn't know best. They knew that they tasted so bad that they tried to keep you from getting to them. We're going to be told it says Flintstone's. The only thing worse than these reviews are, have y'all ever noticed on Amazon, sometimes someone asks a question about a pack of socks and it's like, how thick are these? Do you feel like they'll last for a while? And someone will probably be, I don't know. I don't have them. I've never seen that actually. I see it all the time. No, it's like they're doing this for community service and they're just like, people just like to talk. I think people just like to talk and want to get there. I think not enough people listen anymore, Carrie. I think people need to listen more because otherwise people have to go online and not follow the rules and answer questions that the question wasn't asked. Listening's the worst part though. I just want to get in, say what I have to say, and then be thinking about the next thing I'm going to say while you're talking. So, I was thinking, what was that about? I was about to say. Wait, would you say sorry? I was thinking something else. Wait, did you say something else? Stonks! Stonks! Stonks! Stonks! Sorry about that tangent. Welcome to the show. No, it's perfect. Cryo Am, Cryo Amay? Cryo Am. And chat was like, please bring back fanservice, which is I want to bring up that this is our now our fanservice. No, it's dead. I killed it. It's dead now. But we're here in your heart forever and we're going to talk about anime. But before we even talk about anime, Carrie did want to bring up something else. Yes, today's anime day and I'm going to talk about my favorite anime, the platforming game Celeste. So, this has been my obsession. This wraps all the way back to creative stuff. My new creative hobby is finally trying to learn how to make games, which I've always wanted to do. And I discovered this thing called Pico 8, which I'm super behind on. This is not new. Boku no Pico? Yes. I knew it. I was thinking that every single time and I never said anything. And it's just they describe the creators as a fantasy console. It's basically like a console that never actually existed. The closest comparison I can think of, and this is going to I'm sure go over a lot of people's heads just like Flintstones is like a Commodore 64 where it's like its own little thing.  And then the game cartridges are PNG files. And that's how you share your game. And the whole game is on like the PNG file. How big are these PNGs? They're pretty small. This is a thing where this whole console and everything about it is it's specifically limited so that to kind of one kind of like an invoke like it's very much kind of like to me it feels like in between Ness and SNES era. Like by default there's only 16 colors. Although somebody found out a way that you can get like it's been interesting like somebody found out a way like we found 16 more colors if you change the memory. But then you can only get you can still only get 16 colors to play on screen. Wait, we found a way where you can replace one of those colors with any of the other 15 so you could theoretically get 31 colors on screen. Is this very like like I don't know it's a very cool thing but it's intentionally limited so they're not very big files. But this is the the console that Celeste, the platform where the probably people know much more about, was originally prototyped on. It was a game jam done in four days. And they made the entirety of this like little Celeste game which you can find that game as like an unlockable in the Celeste proper I don't know what you want to call it like the main Celeste game they're now calling this other one Celeste classic. But the reason I'm bringing all of this up is because yesterday was the third anniversary of the main release of Celeste like the main the the big boy game if you will happy birthday and they decided to celebrate it by releasing a Celeste classic 2. It's a brand new game. It has a new character with new characters new character new mechanic you're not dashing anymore you've got a grappling hook and it's harder. There's no saving so like we need to turn it off you're just like gonna start from the beginning thank you so I'm like oh it is like a classic game yeah my two levels in I thought I got to the point where like the first time I beat like the the original Celeste classic it took me like at least like half an hour like I was not very good at it like in one sitting and I just kept playing it and now it's like 10 minutes but people are like speed running in like two minutes this is gonna take me a while I was gonna play it in your browser yeah you can play it so you can play it in your browser. Maddie Thorson one of the co-creators along with Noel, I can't remember the last time I posted this, I think it's Noel Berry they've tweeted out about it and yeah you play in your browser there's an exe you can download they have it all up on a HIO yeah but it's incredible and I just think it's really cool that they kind of like celebrated like the roots of the game by like doing this new like you know version in the original engine yeah I mean who know I there they they've said that they're they're originally their company was Matt makes games but I believe it's something else now it's um I'm scrolling I'm sorry extremely okay games extremely okay games yeah lower the lower the expectations so that extremely well you won't be disappointed that way if you have low expectations yeah well I believe and I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of guessing this is a part of it but um Matt I believe it was only a few months ago transitioned and is now Maddie so I think that was part of it because originally the company's name was Matt makes games so um I believe that was part of it but uh yeah I am very excited I think it's really cool and uh that's my anime hey and a new hobby and a new hobby a new rate of hobby yeah good work proud of you I spent like 10 hours doing stuff and I was like uh oh what what day is it we'll see yeah I'll either drop it in a week or or hopefully I'll release a game who knows I'll be there get it on the ground floor all right let's talk about anime yeah I there is a piece of news that was I actually wanted to bring up and it's on the topic sheet thank you Erin you're welcome because uh someone had tweeted out a while ago and I had could retweeted it and it kind of just like chained reaction this dn angel the manga from uh our middle school era yeah is finally ending after 24 years of hiatus I don't think it was on hiatus for 24 years I think it's just been on and off over the course yes of 24 years yeah over the course of 24 years yeah this and I'm like thinking is it something I don't know it's 24 years you don't I'm surprised Gary this is like I feel like the gateway drug of anime yeah like it's a gateway drug of anime for a lot of girls because yeah super it was if you look at it it's kind of your classic like big eyes small nose the shonen pretty boy yeah it's a shoujo it's a shoujo Sam by the way says invest in carry stocks he is making celestory um I wish I could oh hang on real quick I one thing I'm sorry one thing about the pico which is interesting is that all of the games you can open up and see how they made them so I reverse there are there are there are already people that kind of like took apart the original celeste and made like their own levels and mods and stuff um but it's a cool way to learn uh if you're interested in in gaming I'm so sorry I just got rid of that we will allow this once yes yes Caesar just said so it came back to die so it came back to die angel it did Caesar you're right what is this show about oh god I I can tell you oh dna dna angel or dn angel so um it is a shoujo manga about a kid who actually like legitimately has the genetic um capability power to turn into a phantom thief um his name is uh the kid's name is dice gay he's 14 years old I'm pretty sure um and he is the main character of her story he is a huge crush on his classmate named Risa and she is a twin um and he knew Risa and his sister Riku uh they're like childhood friends and stuff uh they're like uh they're pretty well off like they live in this like really nice mansion or whatever um and uh he is connected to them via also his uh alter ego who's a phantom thief named dark I'm pretty sure it's dark yes dark mousy yeah dark mousy yep because I'm pretty sure he's like looking to steal the stuff that their family owns because it's like jewels or expensive stuff and stuff like that um further this is very persona five oh yeah yeah speaking of because I've I've been watching so uh it's further connected like just imagine this um red string on a corkboard further connected because Risa has a huge crush on dark because it's like oh if he like says like he's gonna steal something it's like a huge news spectacle so she has a huge crush on dark but Daisuke likes Risa and dark is kind of just like I'm just gonna do my own thing um and then uh Risa's twin sister Riku actually has a huge crush on Daisuke as we learned through the series because they're like close friends so they're like the best friends who maybe like each other I don't know but Daisuke still has a crush on his sister so there's that string and then uh you have a detective rival as every phantom thief needs Pikachu Pikachu who is a high schooler named Satoshi who is also in their grade and he has glasses like platinum white hair like he's like the complete opposite only it turns out he has a dark genetic alter ego as well named light so it Dean Angel is very much like the duality of man in a shoujo comic and I'm just like the more I describe it or how I'm like remembering everything I'm just like oh my god hold on hold on hold hold on holding the wiki says that his name is crad oh it's okay because it's dark backwards it's not right it's crad but yeah it's like this whole thing about how like their carry line or something I wanted to say it just for Kerry's reaction as in crad nope it's k rad dark spelled backwards Kerry is dark spelled with a c no you you fool Issa I was I was really interested and I had a lot of like questions I wanted to ask and and now I'm angry it's also a character named Alucard guess what his name is it's funny because uh it's all uh uh Karakana yeah Karakana yeah Daku Maoji and then Kurado so it's not even like that even like actually is it the reverse no it's not even the reverse okay okay it actually spells Dracula it should have stayed on hiatus okay so Molly oh go ahead Erin I was looking at the um Kotaku article that yeah announced this so the manga went on break from august 2005 to april 2008 and it started in 97 yes so this is a quite yeah quite the old manga and then after a seven-year hiatus in 2011 and it resumed monthly serialization in 2018 so it's been on and off and there is an anime but I don't I mean I'm assuming it hasn't gotten that far so the anime came out in 2003 and didn't do anything else yeah yeah so they that was around the era where um the anime adaptations of manga kind of went their own way because they weren't done yeah and so uh the way that the anime ended um uh there was an ending and they did hit at like certain relationships that they picked up like Risa Satoshi which I was a huge fan of in middle school thank you very much um and uh the it was yeah yeah it had to end uh it's 24 episode or 26 episode run but I'm pretty sure the manga also wanted to go a little bit more into that BL route so um hell yeah that is one of the key differences on top of the manga just continuing where are you telling me dark and crab are gonna be we're one of was one of the the things they wanted to explore crab changing his name to literally anything else even crab well you have to read the manga to find out I'm a dark crab guy myself uh one of the uh I think some of the covers which showed a lot of Satoshi Daisuke because I was kind of like a classic BL pairing of like the really happy side oh hell yeah I'm seeing some google you are on fire I can I can just tell how much this shaped you I think it took a lot of people yeah again you have no idea the gateway drug into anime and boys love so Mike's TDing right Mike is TDing yeah yeah I was gonna say because yeah a couple a couple things you're describing this almost feels like it has that like um uh uh uh what the fuck is it um whatever uh and as an effect where it's like you're describing things is like oh that sounds kind of trope it's like oh well maybe it's because it started with started the troops yeah yeah also the opening for the anime slaps it's still I listen to it still it's it's a good fucking song I don't I I had just all so much trouble believing you because you took so long to mention crab look at those boys she knew she knew that yeah there it is there it is yeah there look at the why is it so small make it bigger that's dice day and dark bam bam bam whoop do whoop do whoop cool now here's the problem because the way that you're supposed to do that is okay Carrie we're gonna talk about something that's really interesting it was really important to my childhood I think it's really great I'm gonna need you to this is the one bad thing one of the characters is named crab crab and if you get past that you're talking to me you're talking to Cole Cole explains that's why I explain things the way I do to always keep you guessing I never have to explain crab if I do if I was explaining it we never crab would never even come up and be well well it'd be the first name so there's this guy named crab and he's a detective yeah he's a dark who is dark is crab spelled backwards Carrie keep believe that dark is crab spelled backwards just name him dark then but that's not the point Carrie yeah the main guy's name dark he's the opposite of name white I wish I thought his name was light but that's in uh death note yeah they couldn't do that they couldn't get arrested yeah but uh crab actually looks like the legitimate opposite of dark because dark has long purple hair that is like kind of emoey yeah and and crab has light blonde hair and he's a psychopath so oh let me see yeah oh my gosh that wasn't crab that was dark that was oh my gosh he sounds like a bad boy oh whoa Cole's like really loving his childhood right now I'm just gonna see what happens if I just search for crab oh I'm just thinking about crab rife oh it a lot comes oh here we get never mind here's the art here's the art there we go let's copy this image send it over to Mike so yeah that is finally ending um uh Dean Angel was like the art style that I really wanted to imitate when I was younger yeah Aaron agrees it it who it looks it looks really familiar to other things as well like I mean maybe it just been like the 90s yeah really thousands style I remember the author's name let me check oh yukiru yuki rusugi solid or something sorry um I think it's look at the carry dark and crab god what is that witch look at that dumbass like oh no which one do I kiss I'll kiss both just to find out Dean Angel was um did the alter ego thing before Yu-Gi-Oh did I think so I think in the timeline yeah probably yeah did they did they have an old man in us in a young boy but that's but that everything just is kind of everything it's kind of just JoJo's right it's just like everything is JoJo's when you think about it thanks Mike wait call explain how is everything JoJo's because like I mean it could be like the alter ego stuff could be like stands or something I don't know maybe that's a stretch but I mean that is the the general truth of um at the root of all anime it's just all just yeah all anime is just JoJo's like especially like persona all JoJo's persona is completely just JoJo's stands yeah big persona 5 vibes yeah which is weird that it like persona 5 just kind of came back into the like my zeitgeist so yeah there's just so many other things that I'm like oh well that's because we get persona 5 scramble coming out next month whoa I can't wait is it actually gonna be good oh it's gonna be I mean it's a diney storyers type persona game so the two of my favorite games yeah let's go hi hi and it's a direct sequel to persona 5 so it's actually going to continue the story there's a lot of reviews that said that it's like um it is surprisingly a lot more like persona 5 than you'd think that's also I mean it sounds like exactly what happened with uh age of calamity yeah yeah was that like like I feel like the first Hyrule Wars was like good but I feel like there seems to be this trend now of like okay we're gonna do this different game style but we're still gonna make it feel much more like the actual game and have like the story be relevant um yeah right I I prefer that personally they did it with Fire Emblem as well which that's I think was one of the first ones where they added that you could control your other units on the map like a fire like oh I want you to go over here and attack this guy I need an actual strategy I need to get back to streaming this because I guess this is a slight age of calamity spoiler um you can play as Hestu the like main Korok with like the maracas the big one oh my god really you can play as him and he's fucking great why would you want to play as anybody else that's no once I got him I stopped playing everybody else because like you just like you dunking on anybody with that character is the best thing ever hell yeah it's the best so uh that's that's my that's my pitch is that uh Breath of the Wild two should get scrapped and instead of uh we should do uh Legend of Hestu yeah age of Hestu shaking it up yeah so somewhat Hestu warrior age of Hestu the Lelda of Zelda yeah uh Aaron please I mean somewhat video game and anime related I know I'm like 20 years late but I'm finally playing Final Fantasy 7 remake whoo whoo oh my gosh I've never you're not that late because I didn't finish it so okay uh well I've never played a Final Fantasy game because I don't care for turn-based games so this is my first time fully experiencing it like I'm familiar with like the story and whatnot just because it's so like ingrained it's pop culture I feel like we all saw Advent Children too yeah I've actually yep I own it yep um but yeah that's how far in are you oh no one finished it and so no one understands why it's the best remake of a game ever made yeah I didn't finish it and I feel like it I think oh well more like uh Mayazo and I finished it cool I always started so you know you know that's the thing we're gonna get to never got to talk about it on controlsy because Sam never finished it Sam I'm calling you out in this chat right now see I only started this past weekend um I'm only I think I'm up to chapter four with uh Jesse Jesse's mission uh so I'm very early in but I want to play it so yeah and why does everybody want to fuck cloud like I get it but Jesus Christ you well you literally get it though Aaron I get it but Jesus Christ nobody could keep it in their pants Aaron wants cloud for him for herself I want cloud but then I also want cloud to go to therapy like Jesus Christ oh yeah that's about it yes there it is yeah I'm I thoroughly enjoying it so oh yay I had to bring that up maybe maybe that'll motivate me to get back into it I need to finish it you don't need us to pass you that would be embarrassing story with that we're like I I barely play I think I've said some of this before I barely played seven the original because there was a period of time for PlayStation where I did not have enough I didn't either I didn't have a memory card I didn't have enough space so there was like I I've replayed the beginning of Final Fantasy 7 and 8 a ton a ton but I never got very far into it and then uh uh I uh I've seen avid children multiple times and I did 100% uh uh what was it 10 no no this uh the PS the fucking Final Fantasy 7 on the PSP oh crisis core crisis core yeah I did 100% crisis core before even playing Final Fantasy 7 um so that's kind of energy I'm bringing what what a what a yeah yeah it was on the PSP I like I like portable gaming I like having my PlayStation rules crisis core that was actually the first one that I beat and then I went back after that because I'd played Final Fantasy 7 growing up but I'd always name myself Sephiroth so I can't name clown something stupid in the remake I don't like I want to be like yeah what's clouds come backwards it's probably also crab duk duk duk can this is this is uh we don't talk about this long this is just a random check okay I played that game in my junior year of high school so over 10 years ago Final Fantasy 7 uh uh crisis core crisis so I played that game for you know weeks I beat it completely yeah is it bad or weird I meant I've asked this before I don't remember a single thing about it oh really literally nothing and it's not played it but I remember like the last cutscene like oh man that I remember broke my heart because that like that was like framed everything for me because I had a very bad Final Fantasy 7 experience uh oh where the first time I played Final Fantasy 7 um do we spoil Final Fantasy 7 the original do we care yes I told I guess say it's going great the original yeah well because I don't know what's going to happen in the remake this has nothing to do with the remake well that this has to do with the original 1997 1993 it's the stuff everyone knows I won't spoil it because you guys don't want to spoil it but essentially somebody my friend introduced the game to me and told me characters not to pick oh and we're just like don't use that character I was like why and he told me why not to use them and so I was like okay sure and I didn't know why and then he also told like major spoilers of the game so I was like and they saw and I didn't know they were spoilers like yeah and I just want to be clear too uh what I was asking is not a commentary on crisis core but more a fear of my memory slipping yeah further and further away from me um crisis core like I remember oh I like still that's like that meme is like what lives in your head rent free yeah it's crisis last fourth of that game zack zack and like the final battle and like oh yeah that part where he and cloud like make out is like really that's the one part I remember that well that's yep yeah him and and Angeels in there too yeah oh yeah yeah all the spiky here boys there's a reason that he's named a wedge if you know what I mean and bigs um Dargolf ob and chat says queenex did recently trademark something called ever crisis and something called the first soldier so that's some interesting if we get to play a Sephiroth I'll piss my pants you don't have to I'm gonna piss my pants carry um I'm going to pee right now I'm gonna pee right now you can play a Sephiroth um it is uh the time Mike to me because I need to do a thank you I need to thank our first members uh thanks guys uh you guys get some awesome amazing things for keeping our lights on some exclusive shows watching episodes early at a nice discount in the store so thanks for being here to support us you can join us in chat right now like I said I keep it up every time Austin is there someone named Austin I know like five people named Austin um so you are the Austin and chat to me Molly floods in there right now Caesar thank you Sam is also in there you can see us do some off-camera stuff because Cole has yelled at Sam recently because um hi oh Cole said hi thanks Cole a simple line 18 is there love you guys Fert Fert Fert yeah be for wait is that is that Austin H town I'm not sure I think it is I clicked is hard because that you is that you come back to us your staff isn't come back to us yeah thanks first members thank first thanks Fert members appreciate you Fert Fert Fert Fert Fert Fert Fert all right let's see we should talk about anime we can't talk about anime like we popped like we promised yeah we should just say the thing we're like we brought Cole on talk about anime and then not talked about it and then not talk oh all right hey guys nice time what don't we're gonna talk about what are we talking about what are we talking about um there's so many and there's so many anime last last year of anime was kind of bad I don't know if anyone knew this pandemic anime is i kind of did not watch a lot There was there was good shows within but as a general premise like I know gay I always makes the joke. It's like oh, yeah, if you were an anime fan last year. You didn't watch anime If you were an anime fan you watched vTubers, but That's true. What is like is vTubing anime? This is yes. It's vTubing. It's like live-action anime Cole likes vTubers these shows I don't have to start but I'm just as the we should let's talk about the shows that we're watching I am watching Attack on Titan and I am watching Promise Neverland Those are the shows that I'm watching and Celeste are you caught up? Are you uh, I know I am caught up on both right now I'm just animes not my guess. I'm behind on both of them But both were on the list of like stuff I need to catch up on same as me I watched all season one of Promise Neverland and I really liked it too. I haven't started yet, but I've heard Things and I'm a little afraid to start it. I heard bad things about it or just that it's like Crazy still. I I don't know. I only saw this like headline and passing but somebody was saying The anime is like going in a different direction That's so the biggest super fan of Promise Neverland. I know is my roommate Mel Mm-hmm. Yeah, she loves it And she told me that it was kind of going off like going off the rails. Oh, no a little bit from it. Is it good though? Wait, tell it tell it go over there and ask her if it's good Mel, come over here Whoa, surprise with you. She's like in the middle of a meeting right now. You have to credit Mel She's in the middle of working on Ruby right now She's about to go get Misty Sam you have to credit Mel now Yeah, you have to credit Mel Mel. It's Promise Neverland good. Yes, it's great. Watch it Ask her if she's worried about it it changing from the manga. Are you worried about it changing from the manga? Um a little bit because I really like it, but I also heard that a lot of people didn't like the ending But I don't know what the ending is because I didn't finish it the month. Oh, okay. Maybe it's a change for the best Thanks, Mel. Thank you. I don't know why I said it louder like if I say Tell her to charge 10 minutes Issa, should we talk about like time in like It's a joke guys Mel had to get ready. She did put her makeup on. She has to take makeup off now for this so I I As a person who has not watched the manga Who has not read the manga? And who's very tired who has not read the manga and enjoyed the first season a lot.   Yes Like this story only works because they're kids Yeah, I I say this all the time.  Why can't it be like a 30 year old? It is it is definitely very much an alliance with like attack on tine like it's very much not for the faint of heart Yes, but this is like another level because it is uh kids I would say it is definitely more on the thriller side rather than like pure horror like there's no like guts or gore or anything it's just like Kind of oh, I haven't seen why i haven't watched season two I don't think season one had any of that really Some blood yeah, it's blood. Where's that like you're right that they're they they are they more go for um Very yeah, it's a lot of tension and some very specifically placed Shocking imagery. Yeah, but it is not necessarily like gore that like attack on tine. Yeah, it's not like yeah Yeah, yeah highly recommend it The it's I don't I can't even tell you where to watch it. I'm watching on Funimation, but it's only you can watch it on Funimation Yeah, but I think you can watch season one in other places But maybe I watch it on crunchy roll. So I originally because dot moe is your number one source for finding where to watch anime Go to because dot moe and you can type in the name promised Wow neverland promised neverland is available on Funimation crunchy roll verve high dive. Yes But I believe I believe the newest season is only on Crunchy funny. Yep. I guess I gotta get a Funny. Yeah, I ended up getting one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah What they have like other other things I needed on there that I need to watch so I guess it's time The Funimation has like I feel bad because Funimation has all the best anime right now Why do you feel bad with the exception? I feel bad about like if you if you have to decide one service to get I would recommend getting Funimation Yeah, I love crunchy roll of both of them But if you have to decide between the two like and it's all gonna get muddied up whenever the merger happens, but oh, yeah I like once. Yeah, that gets pushed through It's well for a while. Um when they had that partnership like two or three years ago. Yeah, like they had both catalogs on Each other's website. So you can I don't know a lot of times if stuff is on who uh Funimation is also on Hulu Yeah, not all the time. Yeah, I know they've had a deal. We'll see what happens with the Sony Sony deal, but that'll be crazy um What's everyone's watching? I haven't started watching anything yet. There's so much. I want to watch dr. Stone I would let other people go first because there's just too much. You can also watch it on hulu. Sorry There we go. Yeah, I want to watch dr. Stone I'm one of those people where I'm I can only fixate on one thing at a time. So right now it's Final fantasy Um, so maybe once I'm done with that, I'll catch up on on the animes, but dr. Stone is definitely on my list That was like the one I was really hyped for so And I guess attack on titan as well, but I need to catch up on the previous seasons But I know vaguely what happens. So There's a ton of stuff that's like I mean, this is just a ton of second seasons this this year or like this season that are Or uh, uh, yeah sequel seasons like attack on titan promised neverland dr. Stone Slime re-zero quintessential quintuplets v stars Cells at work log horizon Let's see. Let's see if we can keep going uh laid-back camp. Uh, is that grand blue? No, that's something else I thought you were doing this off the dental match. No, I'm not on biori Uh, what was that one? They're non non biori. It's a very wholesome healing show about Cute girls living in the countryside Of course just going to school doing fun things. It's it's like super wholesome and very very good Yeah, if you need a healing show if you're watching attack on titan or uh Promise everland promise everland and you need it like you watch an episode. You're like, I need to feel good Yeah, then that's like you're laid-back camps or you're maybe I need to try that. No, not biori I'm only watching the pressing anime right now but Go ahead Issa Call out and chat for wonder egg and I remember seeing that's I had two shows that I highly recommend everyone watch wonder egg priority and Hori uh, uh, Hori Mia So, yeah, I was gonna check out wonder egg I was gonna check out wonder egg because I saw a screenshot and I was like, oh, that's pretty cute What is that one? What is that one? Uh wonder egg is It's intense Is very intense never mind. So uh wonder egg priority. Did any of you all ever watch flip flappers?  Yes No, it was that was something else. That was a hand shakers. I did I saw the first five episodes of flip floppers. I remember that flip flappers is the most trigger show that was never made by trigger How do I miss which is Uh, I don't know because I told everyone about it. I shouted about it for the rooftop cold It was it was drink fan service. You know it was You man So wonder egg priority is if uh, and it's not kyo any, but it's if kyo any did flip flappers. Yes So it's super weird super thing super like, uh Mind like a lot of mind games. It's essentially a girl Is going front like is entering people's dreams to try and collect enough wonder eggs To be able to revive her friend who committed suicide by jumping from her school roof. Oh No But it what happens when she steals people's eggs They have we haven't gotten to that part yet and I won't say even if I did I wouldn't spoil it Also, did y'all know they made a hand shakers, um Season two somehow Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how or why. I don't know who was asking for it But once I found that out and blew my mind. Oh, look at that It really doesn't like kyo it is uh, uh, are y'all gonna do gifts. Let me see yes I'm pretty sure But it doesn't look kyo any Yeah, uh, let's see There was one there was like because I've been mel and I've been watching more anime just like well In nights that the bachelor isn't on of course We'll watch a ton of anime The most anime show that there is true Colossus stab Stab I'm trying to find the gift right now. Um It's there's a lot of blood a lot of intensity like Oh, is this the gift? Yes. Here's the gift. Here's the question. Is it like an egg being like Squish Well, I like the the first wonder egg she has she throws it a wall in a bathroom and a bigger girl pops out An average size girl Here this I have this is what uh feelings about that anime Anime So this is this was the first gift that mel mel saw. Uh, um, but it's it's very It just feels really good. It feels like it's going to be like a Instant like Stuff people are gonna talk about it for a while if it ends well if it ends well But but this is not a feel-good one No, I wouldn't watch it if you want to feel good. Um, okay There's some promise to it like there's some like oh hope and like You can get kind of excited like I remember like oh, this is really intense. This is so cool But uh, I mean promise neverland has hope and then it also has dismemberment So now if you do want to feel good. Hori. Mia is the next show that you should what did you call me? I made that joke already.  Yeah, it was like some doggie doggie stuff Yeah, I'm very it's like they just open the door and see that girl in the hall and a bunch of little gremlins pop out And they're like Austin and chat said mother's basement the youtube anime youtuber called it hyoka meets madoka, which I'd seen that like there that was like a people were talking about it and saying no to No, like two people who like to eat a lot about anime have given the same two descriptors Interesting. It's like so different like people were picking up different things from it But the other thing that you should check out if you want a healing show is hori. Mia. Yeah It is it's a high school romance show. I mean we've seen those but it's like about this Girl who is like the the the preppiest girl in school like everyone All the guys want to be with her all the girls want to be her it's that that character But when she goes home her mom and dad are very busy and so she has to like turn into Mrs. Mom at home and take care of her kid And like doesn't want people at school to see that side of her She's like I want to keep up the presentation I don't want them to see me like yelling at my little brother to do his homework to like be vacuuming I want to seem like I have it all together And she She has an interaction with like the guy that everyone thinks is an otaku because he has like long black hair Sits in the corner by himself. Even in the summer.  He probably like looking up panties Whatever like and one day she accidentally bumps into a guy who has like a bunch of tattoos and piercings and stuff Is it him?  Like I'll get back. Hey, uh, do you have any can you help me with some homework? and like it's about them Having this secret identity that they can share because he the reason he wears his hair long is because it's bad to have tattoos The reason he wears jackets is because if he goes to school in a short-sleeve shirt, they're going to see his tattoos And so it's like well They they both Enjoy having that one piece of secret knowledge about the other that they're like, oh like This has given us a starting place for a bond and so it's like interacting with people who are interested in each other and it's just like Blossoms into this whole thing of everyone, uh being friendly and wholesome So it's basically 2021 his and her circumstances Yes, see I was gonna say Kobayashi's dragons made meets memento interesting interesting Is he trying to find some good My my favorite part is how um every time Cole said hoary mea a carrier everyone go. What did you call me? He's saying honest So this was another one where uh while mel and I were watching, uh, the second that he showed up different. She goes, who is he? I think she showed me this Yes, yep The three boys mel's thirsting after right now Uh, was it mea? Mea koshi, what's the name leave? I um Levi yeah gojo from uh jujitsu kaisen. Oh, that's a handsome boy. Yeah, and uh and handsome boy here handsome boy here Yeah Cool, I'm I'm convinced. I I will check that out. Yeah, I like both of those People have been like Craven for it like the manga is huge people have been like make this make this make this and so I just googled it and it looked like it's it's considered a shonen manga and it was actually self published I think it was um, I wouldn't call it like webtoon specific But it does look like he posted it online first before it went into publishing So I think that's that's pretty interesting. Uh, really cool to see An independent quote-unquote IP kind of rise into being world-renowned Yeah, you'll love to see it happen very very akin to uh one's work like one punch man and uh mom's like uh Which we're both like one. I mean that's also it's not I mean that's rezero as well Where it was a web series first that gained popularity and then they came back later like okay Let's touch it up for a official publication I forgot that Isi have you been watching anything? No, I'm kind of I'm I'm similar to arian But I think something that has happened with me is that I I ever since kind of like not being around other people Um, I've kind of hopped off of a lot of like ain't am I watching in general The fun fun fact is um, the only way I really watch anime is if I watch it with my so My so watches one piece religiously. Oh, no So I now have watched more one piece than I ever have before But I didn't start from the beginning I just started from like this point in the anime and I kind of just am there to witness it I'm just do you know what episode you started because I can tell you if you started before episode 250 You're good. Nothing nothing important happens before episode 250. I started like episode like whatever they're on now like minus 50 But I know the general like Gist of one piece if only because it's like wiki reading kind of like what you did arian I'll just read the wiki and stuff also so I could read fanfiction just Whatever, I just feel like it. Um I did watch recently the um, they have those specials that they released they have uh, they there's one about chopper's origin story I watched that one Um, and my so explained to me some of the changes they did But that was where I had tweeted every time chopper cries I cry. Yep. I was like Issa wants to love and protect chopper Tony chopper He's the best. I love chopper and that's why he's the best. He's the best. Um, the best one in the crew I Love how much the crew platonically loves each other In one piece like there's no roman. There's never gonna be roman. I mean, uh, Uh, what's the space needs to chill? Uh, sanji needs to chill, but he had told me about it But uh, but then I also love I also love how much japan loves one piece. Oh, yeah Like going like we saw so many one piece exhibits and it's like i'm so happy that these group of friends are just out there on the high Season venture and having good times Um, oh, I guess in somewhat anime news recently. Um, there was something I had retweeted uh at a translation of an article Of a this interview that he yeah, he deyakiana creator even galleon gave because yeah It was um, he was explaining his side of the story when it came down to like kind of Gainax and all the scandal around them and their president being arrested for crimes um And he was just explaining what like he's like His intro was I would like if the news outlets would stop saying create the studio that created even galleon Because I am in no way associated with these people Studio gainax that is now is different than the studio gainax that was like when even galleon first made So please like if you keep calling it like this you were putting basically like a pox on like my company My name my brand and I feel so bad for him. Yeah Poor guy They owe him so much money. Yeah, it's an interesting read like I've read an article. I guess Or I don't know what it was um an interview sometime last year That was largely the same thing but I guess this is more like an official translation of like his words Uh, very very very interesting. Yeah, especially to see see what like, um What current gainax has been up to doing all kinds of weird shit It's suspicious and again. Yeah, it's a lot of shenanigans. It's like what y'all doing? It's really surprised me that they're still around Yeah, well, I apparently there's like It's a gainax east gainax west. I don't know there's some there's like a gainax It's like a shell company From what I understand the the shell company is just there to like legally hold copyright over their ip's Nothing else. Yeah, it's like oh That seems awesome That seems like the kind of job that you like go home from every day and you're like, yeah Job well done. Yeah, nobody's getting this copyright You hang your hat up Yeah loosen your tie and you have a have a whiskey I have a way there is so one more question um that someone in chat asked and just because I just want to call it out And I wanted to throw this over to you col since you might know has anyone seen any of skate the infinity I have not it's the new bone show Oh the new bone show Yeah, it's like a sports anime for skaters My anime collecting card game that we're doing in discord Um, we've been playing at non stops the skate the skate cards go for a lot. So um I know we were like everyone's saying like chad you have to be in this show You know people at funimation you have to find a way onto this show But uh, I've heard good things. I've heard like it's it's pretty good. Cole. You're not spending money on These cards, are you? What do you think? Don't ask questions. You're afraid to get answers for I'll let you I'll let you figure I'll let you guess the answer yourself and whatever you guess is the truth I have I have a question for chat I ask Cole this beginning of the show or before the show has anybody watched hypnosis mic and do you recommend it Because I have seen Inklings of it and I'm interested but I don't know if I want to commit to it I have not heard of this it is a it started off as a Like a multimedia project where it's just a bunch of animated boys like having rap battles No, and I stumbled across this because I found like the nindoroids for some of the characters And I was like so close to buying them just because I like the character design so much But I hate doing that cute. Yeah, so I was like, oh, maybe I'll Should I watch this also they use some dappa for the anime they use some um 3d CGI And I'm curious Why's your tongue sticking out? Are you looking at the boys? Yeah, I'm not. Okay. Can we can you send it to stab or mic? Can erin look at the boys too? I was just I was just looking at at the this page stab says send the boys to me So I send it to Austin. That's ready. That's ready. Oh, yeah, send it to Austin. Yeah He'd appreciate that actually Chat let me know Oh, Carrie's on the whole wikipedia. Look at all those boys. Yeah Apparently they're in their colds cart game as well. Oh, that's yeah They're like different teams every every no no every single characters in this anime card game We felt well every character except for one.  Oh, do they cool the entire cast of ruby?  So like, okay, uh, I'm collecting moms personally moms and kjo um and uh Anyways, that's getting beside the point. Um We were looking up and we noticed that atlas pilot Exists as a card Officially has a card of himself in this virtual card game But forest does not what? So richard has a card and eric does not have a card bring hashtag.  He's gonna tweet about it though. He's gonna tweet about it Yeah for for the memes for the memes he's gonna talk about it like hey Hey, yeah, that's great. If you could just make sure that he puts like hashtag I have notes or something in the tweet Sure, sure This is my prediction. I predicted it to uh, I told blaine about it I was like i'm gonna i'm gonna bring this up at baseball because we you know the baseball on saturdays That's hilarious. If you could if you could point at this episode though About it and then we can have him on for an episode and oh, yeah, I would love to have eric on and quit quizzing about anime and We can make a game for him and then yeah, if you bring up like dragon balls He or like 90s anime. He'd probably be fine. Yeah, let's let's quiz him on let's quiz him on d and angel That's actually a good idea. That's not that's not too far enough of the uh out of the realm Eric do you believe that a character named crad exists? So uh, my my official sign-off quote, uh, thank you to caesar for running this out is cool galley in 2021 I'm collecting moms That will be the end of Better get some big jars Moms, where are you at? Thank you carry erin coal. I love uh hanging out with thank you. Lisa. Thanks everybody Thanks everyone. Thank you chat, uh for being a part of the episode. You have made our lives Eternally brighter Uh, if you want to make it even brighter you could share the show grossly incandescent your friends And share the show on itunes and leave a review that says how great we are It's true. That would be awesome. Subscribe Rooster Teeth first subscribe. Yes. Fert members. Fert members Quiz him on your new haka show. There we go. I would love to go to your haka show. Thank you darklub um, uh If you have a first membership you can watch dead little roosters, uh, that comes out every friday 2 p.m Wait, isn't someone isn't someone here in that? huh I don't know. I try to get carry Okay, I know what i'm doing If anything happens to her I didn't stop watching though. She said did you did you feel out of your element? Like a fish out of water Were you in isekai dead little roosters is in isekai You heard it here first. You heard it here first. I don't want to say anything else I'm just gonna stay out of camera for the rest of this. I guess that's it. Thanks everyone Bye


Hello everyone. Thank you for taking the time to join me here today with product school My name is Mark cookies. That's right cookies like warm chocolate chip cookies. You might leave out for Santa Claus I wanted to take the opportunity to share with you something that you might have never thought about After all part of the fun of product is seeing correlations across unrelated industries, especially if you spot them early Throughout my years as a product coach and mentor I've realized that the core of the role is really solving problems collaboratively and That this is accomplished using many universal soft skills Frequently found in global and in good leaders Military leaders are often revered as being exceptional. So what can we product managers learn from them? So today I'll share with you a peek behind the curtain of military doctrine and I promise not to ask you for any push-ups along the way We'll start with diversity and identity Everyone wears a uniform and operates as a single unit, but Bringing your authentic self often brings out your best self and that best self is the one who's going to bring out the best of a team We'll then walk through some of the US Army values and while these may be specific to the army I assure you that all of these branches of service uphold similar virtues I wouldn't be surprised if the same ethos were shared around the globe as well. I mean, they're quite universal like most product principles in my opinion We'll close by discussing how I a product forward mindset benefits more than just product managers Thinking like a CEO like someone who is invested in the business and its outcomes Will provide about a broader perspective as you solve the problems you encounter So who am I? I'm Mark and this is the closest thing to jumping out of a plan. I've done in the past decade If you have a chance to visit secluded islands in the Philippines, I highly recommend it I'm currently loving the product life of Peloton I started my product journey at Capital One after spending some years in technology I enjoyed it thoroughly, but I always wanted to be closer to our customers and the business Influencing decisions rather than just receiving requirements The right opportunities opened up and I never learned to look back You know, I also spent three years in the army as you might have guessed by now I was planning to spend more until an injury unfortunately limited my career potential But it was a blessing in disguise It enabled me to study two of my passions business and technology and opening a new future that I'm happy to share with you all All right on to diversity and identity So what comes to mind when you think of the military? For most it's a uniform Everyone shares the identity of their unit and their organization But the group is made of individuals Each individual offers a unique contribution to the group Everyone you meet in life knows something which you do not and So for the group to be at its best the individuals need to be at their best Bring your authentic self to the party and everyone will have a good time, you know Some struggle with imposter syndrome.  Sorry. You do you and bring your best self You know during my time in the service one of the students at language school really struggled to learn Arabic No matter how hard they tried they couldn't get rid of their thick southern drawl and I You know and they they felt personally ashamed by it, you know the late nights of studying books and recordings wasn't helping However, this this person truly embodied southern hospitality We organized a barbecue together on a beautiful day where everyone was required to speak Arabic Good food friends a few refreshing beverages really put everybody at ease and Instead of being embarrassed to speak with an accent this personally find this person finally embraced it You know, we all had a laugh because we never heard anything like it before But we found that it made the the speech for this person much more fluid and natural They finally stopped worrying and started learning, you know eventually tutoring other Arabic students and so By helping this person overcome their obstacles the organization more broadly than benefited through their contributions Paying it forward and improving the team If you can find a team with whom you can be your best self All right, so we're going to kick off the army values with loyalty and When we discuss loyalty, I'm not referring to blind obedience if I ask you to jump I don't expect your response to be how high although as a product manager clarifying requirements is always a good practice The army would describe it as bearing true faith and allegiance to the Constitution country and unit For us this means this really correlates to the the mission or the vision of the organization The company itself and your immediate teams as a product manager You are the champion for of the vision for your area within the company. You are the CEO of your products Bringing the business perspective and the questions to the agile teams You need to be confidently committed to the goals of the organization so that you can excite others to join you Yes, there may be some cheerleading involved Yes, you can fake it until you make it. That's okay But remember that the mission and values help answer the questions you didn't know you had Especially when it comes to user experience An example of this, you know during my time at capital one I was amazed by our commitment to the character and personality of you know our digital assistant Might have heard of it This was a reflection of our company and needed to represent the values of capital one to change banking for good And so once we built out the conversational capability Almost every part of the company wanted to start using it for everything, you know, wouldn't it be cool if marketing could be more interactive with a chatbot? Could we have a chatbot help fill out an application for a new account? Would a chatbot do a better job of collecting past due payments? And from a strictly financial standpoint, you know, there is potential for any of these to help the bottom line However, we always referred to our missions and values Will this help the customer? Will this help them make a better financial decision? Will this provide peace of mind knowing that we have their back? Will the customer see us as a partner working together to improve their financial future? If not, there are other viable solutions to those problems You know embracing and evangelizing the mission of the organization really helps everyone contribute to the company's future So next up is duty Fulfilling your obligations do as you say and say as you do But this speaks to more than just completing your tasks for the day Duty also refers to your commitment to the team If you're lucky enough to be part of an empowered product team your successful collaboration will drive impactful outcomes for your business To quote Marty Martin Kagan founding father of modern product management, you know solve hard problems in ways customers love yet work for the business and So your duty also applies to helping customers and users It isn't enough just to provide a solution It has to be a solution that the customer finds more attractive than any other alternative So we which is tough because the technology landscape is more competitive than ever before Software is no longer finished these days only iterated And so new features are being released multiple times per day Teresa Torres has a new book out continuous discovery habits Which provides frameworks for getting customer input weekly and how you can bring them into you know How you can bring these customers in to help co-develop useful features faster? And so speaking of faster one of the great side effects of a successful agile team is the acceleration of the flywheel When big goals are broken down into kind of smaller independent deliverables, you know, this can begin a tighter feedback loop You learn what is or is not working very quickly Which allows you to incorporate feedback and adjust quickly Teams will find a rhythm and often exceed their own expectations And you know the faster you can incorporate this customer feedback the sooner you can solve their problems in ways which they love Which also speeds up the pace of delivery with your agile teams improving team morale there as well So Speaking of customers, you know respect is very crucial It's it's obvious that you'll want to maintain a professional courtesy with your peers, right? And we're all good friends here What might always be as obvious is your understanding and awareness of all segments of your users So when you have deep knowledge of your products, you might know all of the available features In fact, you should know all of the available features Any problem that arises you know exactly where to find the solution But can you say the same for your users, you know, certainly there will be some enthusiasts But can all of them easily use what you've built? This is why frequent customer feedback can be invaluable Always always always gather usage data and track the first-time experience Slice the data along segments that make sense for your business You know also once upon a time I was working on a really cool new way for our customers to interact with our products And we expected it to be a big hit with a 35 and under crowd because you know, this was the most tech savvy in our opinion A few months and many features later. We started noticing something we didn't expect our net promoter scores while good with our target demographic were Outstanding with older users The convenience of our experience was intuitive in a way that we had not expected for them Leading to sincere appreciation, you know, and so we started incorporating an even more diverse set of users in our feedback loops, right? Which then led to a consistently high net promoter score for the product throughout, you know, my time there So don't judge a book by its cover nor should you Ignore an available demographic in your MVP as you try to kind of minimize that scope You never know when you might find your most enthusiastic users So next up is selfless service and as the name implies it's putting others before yourself and any personal aspirations for recognition A product manager cannot be successful all by themselves The role is deeply collaborative Working together to overcome any obstacle really So from an agile perspective, I've always viewed this as servant leadership, right? Or the idea of making forward progress through helping others achieve their goals, which also happened to be your goals I Have the utmost respect for engineering teams engineering teams are the ones who make our products and business dreams a reality and This is why I often go out of my way to get them whatever they need to be successful You know help those who help you Bring the coffee bring the doughnuts do what you need to but keep your teams happy And so it's also a good opportunity to reflect on your duty as a product manager You know being the glue that binds everyone. There are many expectations for you to fulfill It's not easy If you've taken the certified scrum product owner course, it helps you prepare for the product owner role Which is just a fraction of the product management role, right? I won't list it all out here today since that would likely take far too much time But if you are interested Marty Kagan is someone who I look to for wisdom in this space Inspired is his book for individual contributors And new product managers He also has empowered more recently which is more for like the director level the manager or the the coach of other product managers Which is still a great read to kind of gather more perspective and more refinement on the subject He also has a lot of great info on his blog and Silicon Valley product group Definitely worth following because he'll kind of give you a pre-read of some of his materials before they get published I'm jumping back in I'll say another example of selfless service in the civilian space is Jumping on the grenade when needed And so what I mean by that is that you know, even when we have the best intentions Conversations can be difficult when something goes wrong We want to avoid repeating the mistake in the future But this can also lead to some finger pointing which always puts people in an uncomfortable and a defensive position So Ask yourself whenever the conversation kind of you know gets tense like do we really need the answer to this right now? There will always be time for a root cause analysis or a retrospective at a later date But what is the decision that needs to be made right now and how do we get there now? So it might You might just jump in with sorry everyone. I should have had an alert created for the scenario We'll add it to our agenda for the next grooming session What can we do now to restore service or what can we do now to solve the problem? What can what is the action we do now to to help move progress forward? You know, and so like was it actually your fault that something went wrong it honestly doesn't matter Solving the problem matters preventing the problem in the future matters But no one will think negatively of you for putting the customers first and trying to get them help as quickly as possible Which you know, this provides a nice segue into integrity, you know doing what's right legally and morally And in this day and age ethics seems to be a weekly headline in technology, you know data security use Sharing monetization all of which can be easily misinterpreted This is where strong company values should help drive your approach and your strategy You know at capital one when the California Consumer Protection Act passed CCPA We had a decision to make You know updating our systems to comply would take a tremendous effort You know, do we try to minimize that scope and get there faster by applying these policies only to California customers? I mean that would meet the requirements of the law Or Instead we could extend this data protection to all of our US customers and sort of position ourselves as being more pro consumer rights It was more work, but it better aligned with our customer first mission, you know to do what is right And so as a product manager you have immense control over the user experience there are Some things that you might not want the user to do Such as unsubscribing from your platform as an example You could make it harder to accomplish that task Which would likely provide a desirable impact for your retention numbers But is that the right thing to do? This is known as a dark pattern, right? And so many consumer organizations in Europe have raised legal concerns with Amazon over this practice And to be fair, I'll provide Amazon's response, which was you know that the information we provided in the online Cancellation flow gives a full view of the benefits and services Members are canceling Right. I won't comment one way or the other ongoing litigation, but in my opinion it is better for your users to leave with a positive experience and ideally Leaving some feedback to help you understand what led to their decision Unhappy users are often the most vocal so it should be easy to find something there Another point under the category of doing what's right could be not taking shortcuts and so Defining MVP or minimum viable product is a balancing act You need to quickly learn what works for your target users it won't be perfect and It won't be polished and that's okay Document your assumptions and the weaknesses of your MVP and if it's successful consider yourself lucky You will need to balance sort of new features and scaling alongside the resilience of your product It's too easy to focus on the new and shiny and looking towards ambitious growth goals But you know forgetting to address the the known weaknesses of your solution could be a problem But on the other hand if you wait until MVP is like robust and perfect It'll take far too long and it'll take too much investment for you to learn whether or not this solution is even worth pursuing All right This leads us to our next value personal courage and as a product manager, we must be comfortable taking calculated risks The bigger risk is not taking any risk if you subscribe to Mark Zuckerberg The digital world changes very quickly Features which differentiated a product yesterday have become expected today And so how will you find out what can surprise and delight your consumers tomorrow? You know you experiment and you will fail and that's okay Many people will support you with the the most kind words of encouragement like fail fast But they should also add and to learn from it, right? The biggest brands in tech who lead innovation are estimated to only succeed in 10% of their experiments It's easy to point to something like Google plus circles and call that failure, right? This social network attempt flopped relative to Facebook But it also provided a learning opportunity for networking and collaborating, right now G-suite is a market leader in professional collaboration software Because Google took risks, you know Google was not afraid to try to launch a competitor in a highly crowded space of Twitter Instagram Facebook and others And so what is the goal of an MVP? In my opinion, it's to combat risks, right to quantify a gut feeling to Demonstrate that an idea will or will not work, you know and both outcomes are valuable And so Marty Kagan calls out four types of risk Value Will the customer use this right or do they already have another solution to their problem? Usability can the customer easily figure out how to use it or is it too complicated? Feasibility Can it be built with the reasonable amount of resources or is it too complex and viability Will this work for our business or will we lose money and impact our reputation? You know and don't try to solve all of these at once right focus on the risk that makes the most sense for your situation And instead focus on gathering good meaningful data, right? Take a chance and try something new safely And so The last value we'll talk through today is honor and on paper. I will admit This one makes the least amount of sense, right? So the army defines it as living up to the army values meaning that you Value the values which include the value of valuing these values Yeah But if you consider the role of product manager, it isn't to specialize in one or two skills, right? data analysis business analysis Marketing design Engineering, you know front-end engineering back-end engineering individual psychology social psychology economics monetization All of these could independently provide satisfying careers But the product manager is expected to know enough of each area To make key decisions when needed, but also to know when to bring in the experts The successful product manager is an expert collaborator They need to respect their peers and their customers You know fulfilling their duties as they Seal selflessly serve their teams, you know, they must have the courage to challenge the status quo They must have the integrity to do the right thing and of course be someone who is loyal to both users and the mission of the business It's not easy But it has been and continues to be the most fulfilling role I've ever had in my career And notice that at no point did I declare that you need to have a background in business or in engineering to become a successful product manager You need to be an open-minded Problem-solving collaborator who is motivated to get things done And so the the last topic I'll cover today is thinking like a product manager And you know how you don't need the title to start expanding your perspective And so this is a list. It's not by any means a comprehensive list It's not the be-all and end-all as mentioned earlier. We just don't have enough time to go through everything But hopefully this is enough to get the gears turning and potentially inspire some of you to seek more Thinking more intentionally about the business and its customers will lead to solutions which support the business and its customers You know, it's a win-win And so I'd I'd also highly recommend whatever possible to quantify, right? Your gut feeling may have an impressive winning streak But data is paramount for making business decisions, you know, as Sherlock Holmes would say data data data I cannot make bricks without clay And so first, you know, get to know your business Where does your business make money? What are the costs or cost drivers which impact profit, right? How and where is the business? I'm sorry. How and where is the product sold? You know who buys it hint hint it isn't always the user could be a parent could be a caregiver It could be a vendor procurement manager who will never touch your product It could be a gift-focused business with you know clients around the world And so it Gets into you know getting to know your customer But then also, do you do you offer support and service for your product, right? You know, what what options does a user have to seek help when they need it and when things go wrong? You know, are there any special considerations that you need to be mindful of for the business such as, you know Privacy security regulatory, you know all of the above Those could have meaningful impacts to scope of the efforts that that you undertake and so Yeah, get to know your customers as well, right? Who are they both? Demographically and also, you know kind of getting the broad brushstrokes of the statistics and the data of demographics But also go deep with user personas. I've found them to be incredibly helpful and useful for not only Better understanding the problem, but also better communicating Who our teams are serving and solving for? And think you know, why do your users, you know use your products, you know What problem are they solving and what's the next best alternative for them? You know and also get to know your users through the through usage data, right? So you can you've got user experience specific data So, you know, what what are people doing with your product and how are they interacting with it, right? Which features are being used frequently and which ones are not being used as often, right? Is there a common pattern that emerges, you know revealing an opportunity to optimize? The flip side would be financial metrics and you know things that can more directly impact the balance sheet So how many people are using it? How frequently, you know, what's the churn rate? What's the acquisition cost for each user, you know, what's the average order value depending on, you know, the product that you've got? But, you know, as you explore both the user experience and the financial side of things Keep in mind any trends that develop over time And so speaking of trends You should also be paying attention to your industry, right? So who are the key competitors? You know, what are their respective strengths and weaknesses? Have they announced any goals or ambitions, right? And so would that direction either help or hinder your business? You know, what are the broader trends in technology, right? So, you know, are there new ways to solve existing problems that, you know, might not have been considered before? It all admit this was a lot And you do not, I repeat, you do not have to be an expert in all of these Would be nice, but unrealistic, at least in the early term So, but what you need is kind of the awareness and understanding of all these factors And likely more so that you can very intuitively grasp the impact to the business As you explore different solutions while working with, you know, design, engineering and your other groups to solve problems And with that, I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to join me here on this beautiful day for this conversation I hope this broadened your perspective and inspired you to think about elements of your professional setting in a new way If you happen to be a military veteran, I hope this reaffirmed the immense value which you provide in a corporate setting And, you know, I'd like to extend a thank you to product school for organizing this event I wish you all the very best much success, however you choose to define it and wherever that journey may take you Thank you