Welcome. I'm calling to order this meeting of the Arlington Select Board on Monday, January 23rd, 2023, the second day of the Year of the Rabbit. I am select board chair Linda Diggins, and I will now confirm that all members and persons participated on the agenda are present and can hear me. Members, when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. I am Han. Here. John Herd. Here. Dean DeCorsi. Yes. Eric Helmets. Yes. Jim Feeney. Here. Doug Heim. Here. Ashley Meyer. Here. Tonight's meeting of the Arlington Select Board is being conducted in a fully remote format consistent with Chapter 107 of the Acts of 2022, signing law on July 17, 2022, which further extends certain COVID-19 measures regarding remote participation until March 31, 2023. Before we begin, please note the following. First, this meeting is being conducted via Zoom. It is being recorded and is also being simultaneously broadcast on the HCI. 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Yes, Myra. Yes, I'm promoting him now to be a panelist. He should be joining as a panelist now. Yeah, we can see his name. There he is. Hello, Mr. Shine. Good evening. Good evening. Mr. Herd. All right. So, this is a proclamation we put together. Mr. Shine, for those who don't know, was a 44 year coach at Arlington Catholic and he's been the AD there for I think 47 years, if I remember from the proclamation. He retired last year after his 44th season. And last week on Monday, there was a game at Arlington Rink, and they unveiled a shirt that's now hanging in the lobby at the Arlington Rink with the number 44 on it to signify his 44 years, as well as the number of his most favorite player that ever played for him. That was Marcus Moran. That was my number for anyone that didn't pick up on the joke. So, and then it was a nice event. We had a lot of alumni come back to honor his service followed by a few cocktails back at the Knights of Columbus. So it was good to see everybody and I played for Mr. Shine, coach for Mr. Shine for a little bit, but as many know my father coach with Dan for about 30 years. So they got an opportunity to relive some of the some of the stories that they were able to tell in a public setting last Monday, so it was a good event. And so I did want to, I do have a proclamation that I put together just going through some of his many achievements, which I'll read. And I should note I almost, it was a surprise last Monday which I didn't realize I almost threw the whole event up by putting that on our last agenda, but I think I was able to come up with a story that covered my tracks a little bit. And that I will move to the proclamation. Whereas Dan Shine is a lifelong resident of Arlington graduating graduating from Arlington High School in 1973, being inducted into the Arlington High School Alumni Hall of Fame in 2002. Whereas Dan has served as the Arlington Catholic High School Athletic Director for 47 years receiving the President's Award of Merit in 2020 to 2021 for the Massachusetts Secondary Schools Athletic Directors Association and Dan was inducted into the Arlington Catholic High School Quarter Century Club for his distinguished service. Whereas Dan served as the Arlington Catholic boys varsity ice hockey head coach for 44 seasons, retiring at the end of the 2022 season with an overall record of 575 wins, 303 losses and 83 ties. With Dan at the helm AC won nine Catholic Central League championships and three state championships with the 1990 division two title, the 1997 super eight title, and the 2010 division one title. And whereas Dan was selected as Massachusetts ice hockey coach of the year in 1990 1997 and 2010 by the Boston Globe, and the Massachusetts ice hockey coach of the year in 1990 and 1997 by the Boston have herald. And whereas Dan was inducted into the Massachusetts State Ice Hockey Coaches Association Hall of Fame in 2015 and has served on the Massachusetts State Ice Hockey Coaches Association Board of Directors since 1983, serving as president from 1990 to 1992. And whereas Dan has served on the Massachusetts Intercal Scholastic Athletic Association ice hockey committee since 1979, serving as chairman since 1991 in the Massachusetts Inter Scholastic Athletic Association Board of Directors since 2018. Dan was awarded the Massachusetts Inter Scholastic Athletic Association Coach of the Year for 2021 to 2022 and was selected as the national boys ice hockey coach of the year for the National Federation of State High School Associations. Now, therefore, it be resolved that we, the members of the select board do hereby honor and recognize Dan for his many years of service in his distinguished coaching career at Arlington Catholic High School and proclaimed January 23, 2023, Dan shine day in the town of. And just as a personal notice, I grew up as the water boy for many years in Arlington so I got to see Dan at his best, and I played for him and I coach for him and one thing I had mentioned last week when I spoke is that what sometimes that separates Dan, I think from a lot of coaches that you see out there's he doesn't just care about how you do on the ice. He doesn't care about how you do for the team that he coaches. If you're a player for Dan shine, he helps make you a better person. He talks to you about what you're going to do after high school, where you want to go. He'll make a call if he can help you in any way to help you get on the path you want to be on. And he's really a lifelong resource. Anybody that ever played for him, or really is known him can call him 30 years later, and he'll pick up the phone right away. He'll talk to them and they'll help in any way you can. So it's a lifelong relationship playing for Dan and it really has been an honor to know him as a kid, as a player, and now as an adult. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hurd. So, so we have motion on the proclamation, you know, are we going to get a second or any of the comments. Mr. Corsi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I'll second the motion and I want to congratulate Dan on an outstanding career and for his dedication to Arlington Catholic and into the community and one thing that Mr. I read there that I always found to be a remarkable achievement was the 1997 super great championship that you won and for those members of the public that that's a great tournament had started in 1991. And for the first five or six years, it was dominated by Catholic Memorial and BC high and Dan is on the Catholic team won it in 1997 beating BC high the defending champion. So, just a remarkable accomplishment and as we look at the proclamation you want to a state championship and division one and division two, and in the super eight, I've known you for a long time, Dan, and this is a well deserved honor, and I want to congratulate you on an outstanding career and wish you all the best in retirement. Thank you, Steve. Sorry about that. Sorry, coach shine I'm going between the laptop and the phone so don't take my pointing is anything but I'm trying to unmute myself. First, congratulations. I think my colleagues, the course the ms to heart said it best in terms of. Yes, your coach, but you embody the best part of the coach which is getting well rounded players and helping them into adulthood and as many of you know I coached at Arlington high and one of the things that I was really impressed by and to tell you with coach shines sincerity was with the two high schools we have in here in Arlington. Really fostering a partnership or camaraderie between Arlington Catholic High School and Arlington High School. And I know coach shine has helped lots of Arlington kids, we didn't necessarily code Arlington Catholic High School. Sometimes it was just a word of advice in the field when the two high schools met, but other times it was Mr heard spoke about thinking about the big picture long range and helping them to the next step forward so I can't believe your retired coach shine. You're really synonymous with Arlington Catholic but the town of Arlington. I really want to tell you I treasured the very limited opportunity I had to work with you as a coach at Arlington High School but also helping me sort of partner with Arlington Catholic High School cheerleaders. We really had a good program going between the two and good camaraderie shift. And that couldn't have happened if you weren't at the helm of that really encouraging that and making sure it continued on so I wish you good health. In your family, moving forward, and I know we'll, we'll see you again soon so thank you so much coach. Thank you Mr chair. Mr helmets. Thank you. I can't say any better. So I won't try, but coach shine. Congratulations on an exceptional career. Thank you for your years of service to the young people of Arlington. Yes and Mr shine, you know, it is hard to follow up on everything everyone has said especially be given the history that they're referring to is way before my time in Arlington me but but certainly hearing their praise me makes me realize that you are a great asset mean to to town and and to us humanity in general mean and I think it says a lot for Arlington Catholic mean that you stayed with them for as long as you did and it's good to have me great institutions of all kinds here in town. So, so thank you very much mean and so before. Hi, Mr shine was a former Arlington Catholic student athlete who benefited from your leadership and dedication I just wanted also to chime in and say congratulations on your illustrious career. He'll be missed. Thank you very much, Mr Fene. So, before we take the vote would you like to say a few words Mr shine. Yes, I would thank you. I'm humbled by this honor. It's exciting. As john heard noted that he started out with us as a stick boy and running around the rink was a little 66567 year old and now I'm so proud of his accomplishments as a as a select board member and also as an attorney and in a husband and dad. And with Mr Fene as well. Another racy alum was so proud of, but you know, John mentioned his dad, Jack, coach with me for almost just about 30 years and another lifelong resident Joe Keith, who many of you know I'm sure Jim hunt. He's an Arlington resident for many years he's now living in Burlington but he is with us for so many years and and John Donato who started out as a stick boy and moved his way up as well with the program. It's taken many, many people to help me through this journey. I've always enjoyed working with the kids in Arlington, both AC students as well as the high school students. And I feel that we've made an excellent contribution to the community. And I've always felt that we've had two great schools in town, and try to promote both of them as much as we possibly can, and promote the student athletes as well. Family.  A couple of them getting married this this spring. And of course, my wife Terry, who I couldn't have done it without her support. I think everyone knows coaching is a challenging job these days as teaching, and it takes many hours of the week out of your personal life. But it's, I feel it's been something very worthwhile to me, my wife Terry and family. And I want to thank the board for honoring me tonight. I'm humbled by this. Actually, I feel speechless because I think I think so much of the community and what Arlington stands for and and the people that run the run the town. I'm so proud to be a part of it. Thank you very much. Welcome. So, on a motion to issue this proclamation by Mr. Hurd and second by Mr. Corsi. Mr. Heim. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is my apology. Yes. Yes. Well, everyone was here you but me and now I still hear you very softly so I think it's on my end so I'll figure it out for him. Thank you again Mr. shine. Good luck with them. Thank you. Thank you all very much appreciate it. Have a great meeting. Thank you. We move on to the third item on the agenda the Arlington Education Foundation file 5k race on May 21. This year 2023 we have this fuller end mean and so we were looking for some confirmation from a PD me that they were fine. With the race we've gotten a letter made from officer tow and then a follow up letter regarding the tail this afternoon mean so I'll turn to you miss fuller case you want to say anything and then I'll turn to my colleague Mr. Helmets find out any thoughts from him and we'll see where we go from there is fuller. Perfect. Again my name is Laura fuller I'm with the Arlington Education Foundation I thank you for your time this evening. Last two weeks ago you asked for some confirmation and Miss Mayor from the select board office wrote to both Joe Conley and officer retail at the Arlington Police Department. We I had been in touch with them I just didn't have the written documentation. So they are all seem to be okay. Officer Rato and I had a little back and forth he was encouraging us to use the new path on the reservoir for the race. And when I talked to Mr. Conley about that before last week. I was a little concerned that 800 people would create undue wear and tear if we were pushing all 5k races to the reservoir. Last year we held the race on a Sunday morning at 8am and didn't really have an issue with traffic or the safety of the number of children in the race. So we and we are also concerned using the reservoir we would need to actually hold four races. After one after each other one at eight o'clock one at nine o'clock one at 10 o'clock because the space on the reservoir just doesn't have that can allow 800 participants all at once so we kind of change the community feel of the event. So Mr Conley is okay with us using our herd fields and not her field excuse me hilltail and the bike path and. And so we just need to make sure that the police detail is in place in enough time to direct traffic should we need it and and to keep cyclists off the bike path. The experience last year our biggest issue was cyclists on the bike path, as well as just keeping stopping traffic on crossing the mill street crossing of the bike path. So if we can get support for that, which we are working with the police department to make sure that that is in place. We should be fine. Thank you Miss Fuller. Thank you Mr Helmets as courtesy in our. Thank you Mr Chair. I'd like to ask Mr Feeney our deputy town manager. If he has any comments I know that I asked him earlier today to check in with with the police department and recreation department do you have any recommendations for us. Very happy to move approval in a moment we have any recommendations about conditions that we that the town would prefer us to to place on approval. I wouldn't say that we have any additional conditions that we want to place on the race this year, I think that as further correspondence that was provided from Sergeant Martin show that we're proposing a three plus one detail alignment this year and three officers in a supervisor so we can better spread out the coverage and provide additional support during setup and operation as they will be traversing some high traffic intersections so I believe that will hopefully help address any issues that may have been experienced in the past and I know that Laura has taken steps to prepare for proper disposition of recycling and has been in touch with Charlotte Milan on that so from the operational perspective I'd say we're good to go. Thank you. Thank you very much Mr Feeney and thank you Miss Fuller for your patience and for putting this wonderful event together. Are you comfortable with the recommended police detail in terms of being able to work that into your plan. Yes, I that would be perfect. And we are looking forward to working with the police department on that. No, Mr Martin suggested half hour before the race and we are going to meet with him and officer Rato hopefully within the next month and maybe make that an hour before the race just to make sure that we're all set. But yes, that will be fine for people is fine. No question I noticed that the application still has the police detail box not checked. Should we assume in our motion that for the purposes of this approval that that box would be checked on the application given given the commitments. Yes, Mr Helmuth of course. Thank you. Thank you, Mr Chair. I'd therefore like to move approval, just with the condition that least detail and any any other operational record request by the town be a flight with. Thank you so much. This is mine. I will second that and I just want to cast along that Scott Smith. I think it's still a member of a back island to bicycle advisory committee made the suggestion that Miss Fuller or someone from the AEF may want to reach out to island to bicycle advisory committee, perhaps for some, not just coordination but some efforts to work on keeping everybody safe and also what you reference about a bicyclist during the race so thank you thank you Mr chair. Welcome. So, yeah, and, and, yeah, I think their meetings are on the third Wednesdays of the month, but you can find out on the calendar. Any other comments questions. I mean, so, on a motion by Mr helmets mean to approve me of the Arlington education foundation 5k race on May 24 with conditions regarding the police tale. And second by Mr. Mr. Mr. Yes. Mr Dacorsi. Yes. Mr helmet. Yes. This is my home. Yeah. Mr. Davis. Yes. Thank you. Thanks for putting this together. I mean, it's a good cause. And who knows how big it's going to be next year. So, so. All right, take care. Time. Thank you. So, moving along, you know, we are on the consent agenda, which has items four and five me first item black history months banners like this one aim from the Arlington human rights human rights commissioner. And I'm in second as request special one day beer and wine license on January 28, 2023 at Robbins Memorial Town Hall for a private event. So, I imagine we can just move forward with getting the motion. The second approval. A motion by Mr. Mr Corsi. This is behind. I will second that and I also see that we had in a. The consent agenda for consent agenda with four reappointments are we incorporating that in with the other two on the consent agenda. So it would be the black history month banners. The request for a one day beer and wine license, as well as the four reappointments to commission on us and culture redevelopment board open space committee and park and rec commission. This is my hon. As as my very helpful vice chair, you're really doing your job. So thank you for for for bringing that back to my attention. You know, and so yes, let's please do me include that so I'll circle back to Mr helmets on that motion. Mr chair is actually Mr. Corsi on motion. Yeah, I will make my motion to include the additional appointments. Thank you. And I'll still second it. Thank you. Thank you. And so, so any other comments questions. Alrighty so on a motion to approve the extended consent agenda, made by Mr. Corsi and second by miss Mahan. Mr. Heim. Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. helmet. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yeah. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Thank you. So, now we're moving on to item number six, the appointments, you know, to the human rights commission term to expire on June 30, 2025. Kevin Bryan. See the pronouncing he him so Mr. Brian, and for that title any of the title just let me know. Okay. Kevin Brine's fine. Thank you. Um, uh, do you want to tell us a few things about yourself?  I am also a Harvard University chaplain. I'm also the chaplain for the Newton Arlington and Harvard University police departments. I am also a recovery coach, um, father of six, five young men and one woman. Uh, I've, uh, been studying martial arts for 55 years. I'm one of Rocky Rico's highest ranking black belts, which is on park out there at the Kemple Karate. Um, I have great time traveling with my wife and I sit in a band and there is no greater service than service others. So that is why it's a blessing and, uh, a great responsibility. I look forward to becoming a member of this panel. Thank you, Mr. Ryan. So I turn to my colleagues, Mr. Helmets. Thank you, Mr. Chair, I very gratefully move approval on Mr. Bryant's nomination. Mr. Bryant, thank you for your service to the community in so many ways. We are very fortunate to have you as a member of the community in Arlington and particularly in this really important role, you bring a wealth of amazing experience. I'm just looking at your resume. It's just a stashing, it's diversity in breadth and, uh, you're never bored. I can tell that and, uh, you will, I think that you'll have a great time engaging with the other really interested and interesting people on the commission. And, uh, you know, I feel really good that you'll be among the people who are safeguarding the dignity and rights of our, of our people. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Helmets, Ms. Mohan. Hi, I will gladly second that. And I do want to say to Mr. Bryant, thank you so much for, um, going through your resume, your curriculum, Vitae, your everything, um, thank the Lord. You actually have time to, uh, commit to yet another thing along with your better half, um, as a Baptist myself here in Ellington, uh, first Baptist church Deacon, um, I, I definitely appreciate, um, not only your commitment to interfaith and worship as well as your law enforcement background, but, but especially on that and, uh, and over Newton theological, uh, I have myself have, uh, attended over there. I am not a pastor or anything like that. But, um, I do know, um, sort of pastoring, uh, to worshipers is going to be a great asset for you. Not only serving in your role as a commissioner on the human rights commission with the, uh, people that come before you, sometimes in really stressful times and times that they really haven't faced before and maybe a little intimidated or fearful with that. Um, but also with your fellow members, um, sort of a, a different route, um, as they have their strengths also, I'm not saying that they don't, but, um, you have a wealth, a realm, a breath, all the TH words of experience. Um, uh, I look forward to seeing you on the human rights commission and I look forward to when, uh, the weather gets better and Tripoli, West Nile coronavirus hour three in the flu settled down for a little while. I can't wait to meet you in person, sir. And thank you very much. Absolutely. Thank you for your kindness. Any other comments from my colleagues? I can find the raised hand function on my phone. Okay. Well, I saw you paid off and you can just jump in. Okay. So Mr. Hurd. Yeah, I just want to, again, thank you for your willingness to step up your, the breadth of your, your knowledge in so many different areas is really incredible. And in this, for this particular committee, I think that will be very beneficial. Um, we rely on this committee a lot and it is time intensive and labor intensive when your willingness to serve is really humbling. And, um, we appreciate having you on the board. So I look forward to working with you. Thank you. Look forward to working with you, John. Um, Mr. Corsi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, I also want to echo the comments of my colleagues and thank you, Mr. Brian, for your willingness to serve on the human rights commission and the experience that you will bring to the, to the commission and for your dedication. Um, so thank you very much. And I look forward to working with you too. Looking forward to working with you, Mr. Corsi. And so, I mean, all I can say is, wow, actually, I can say more. You know, and I will, it's like, you know, I've never seen such a massive name drop, you know, I feel like be one degree closer to a whole bunch of people that never would imagine I feel one degree closer to, you know, and, and all I'll say is that I'm going to run your, um, CV by the members of the rainbow commission and I'm the liaison from this like board to that commission and they are going to be jealous that HRC, uh, got you. And I, um, yeah, yeah, I mean, I think you appreciate diversity. Me on a whole nother level, you know, from what I see in that paragraph, because, because there are elements in there that, um, wow, just wow. So thank you. Thank you very much, you know, for, for, um, signing up to HRC. I've, I've, I've listened to a number of HRC meetings. Not as many as I want to because it conflicts with some, um, other, other meetings, you know, but it's really an important group. And they do, um, really good and hard work. I mean, so, so, um, you'll be a great asset being, and, and you'll find a great bunch of people, um, to work with. So once again, thank you and on a motion to accept, um, um, Kevin, Brian, some membership on the HRC by Mr. Helmuth and a second by Mr. Mahan, Mr. Heim, Mr. Hurd. Yes. Mr. Decorsi. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. This is Mahan. Yes. Thank you. Mr. Diggins. Yes. It's unanimous vote. Thank you very much. Good night. Thank you. Well, so moving on to item number seven, poet Ariad of Arlington, time to, excuse me, term to expire on January 31st, 2026. Jean Flanagan is Flanagan. I mean, um, any title you want? Just let me know. Happy to call you that. Call me Jean. Okay. Thanks, Jean. You know, so I want to tell us a little bit about yourself. Um, yes, I've been a resident of Arlington for 47 years, and I've been writing poetry most of my life. I went to Northeastern, um, at night, and, um, I've been teaching for the last 20, 20 years at Middlesex Community College. Great. Thank you very much. You know, so I turn to my colleagues. Miss Mahan. Sorry about that, Miss Flanagan. Jean, I'm using laptop and phone and I'm like, am I muted? Am I not muted? I'd first like to move approval, Mr. Chairman. Um, I want to thank you for also submitting, uh, just a little snippet, six pieces, um, of your poems, your poetry that, that you've written, um, I'm, I'm very appreciative that you're going to be the poet laureate, uh, it's a position that when it was first introduced, I listened very carefully to my colleague, Joe Currow, at the time. And it didn't really grasp exactly what it was. I'll be honest with you. It's not a good idea, but I certainly have grown to, uh, appreciate, um, I have, uh, heard of you, um, in Arlington and, in, in, uh, various capacities. So you'll be the second poet laureate of, I think, the four that we've had. Um, Marion Levine was also someone I was familiar with. So, um, it could be Levine. Am I saying it wrong? I think she says Levine. But anyways, um, uh, I'm really excited about this, uh, not only fostering what you can in terms of your writings, um, to the town, but, um, any other sort of bridges, the poet laureate, um, I believe there is one already with our libraries, which I think should definitely continue, but haven't been a resident in the town for so many years. I know you'll be able to make this position your own and probably grow it in a way that I wish I could make a suggestion to you, but I, I don't have the expertise to do that, so I'm going to leave that to you. So I want to thank you, um, for, for volunteering to do this. I've been to a lot of people, we have people on these boards and commissions that, um, I'm almost embarrassed. I want to apologize because you're not receiving any monetary compensation, not that you do it for that reason. I don't know if we could afford you, but, um, but thanks, but thank you again for, uh, agreeing to do this. And thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, then, Mr. Horsey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll second Mrs. Mahan's motion and, uh, also want to thank Ms. Flynn again for her willingness, um, to, to serve as a poet laureate and for providing your poetry, but also providing what you'd like to do as poet laureate. And one of the things that really stuck out to me was the, uh, exploring nature through our parks. And, uh, I, I can think of, uh, a few better places than to, to have poetry readings at Mononomy Rocks Park and, uh, among the others there. But I, I see you, see that as a place to write new poems, but also have poetry readings. So that sounds, uh, very exciting. And thank you for providing your vision to us as, as part of the materials that you forwarded. Thank you. Mr. Hurd. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, and thank you for stepping up to this role. Uh, I know it is a fair amount of work that you have to put in, but in, so you have to love it to do it. But you've, you're following the footsteps of some quite animated poets. So I do look forward to working with you as well. I think the town, the various poetry events, I'll call them that the town has a lot of people look forward to, like the high crews on the bike path or the poetry on the, the storefronts that I know I see it in the heights. I know people like to stop and take a gander and read. And we don't always come across poetry in our everyday life, but, um, it's to put it out there and have poetry readings. I know that we've had poetry readings in the center, um, at Uncle Sam Plaza. It's, it's something to look forward to. And it's, it's a way for people to love poetry and people who may not identify as someone that loves poetry to come up together and hear some good poetry. And I, again, look forward to working with you and thank you for your willingness to serve. Thank you. So Mr. Thomas. Thank you. Thank you, Jean, for, for going to do this. Thank you for your, for your work. Uh, I enjoy these poems and I, I love the range of style and expressivity. Uh, for some reason, I'm particularly drawn to clap your hands and dance because of its energy, its brevity, its direction. Um, it just sings to me. And so much of your work does, but so much of it is, is also poignant and thoughtful. Um, so this is a well-deserved post. I'm excited about the plans that you have for it. I love, as, as Len said, or, or, uh, John said, the community has really, uh, what, uh, what awakened to the power of the spoken word to poetry. I think that, uh, the leadership of, of the AC and AC and other leaders have, um, really cultivated a love for poetry in the town. So you're stepping into fertile ground and, um, I look forward to seeing what you hope to, uh, encourage to grow in bloom. Thank you. And I agree with my colleague, Mr. Of course, it's really good to see what you're thinking about doing. And just remember that some nice parks out in the east, you know, and, uh, we like poetry too. And there are a lot of others out here, uh, you know, and I think, I think my colleague, well, first off, I have a question, am I recognizing your poetry's primarily free verse? Yes, mostly. Yeah. And the structure is like the way you shape the, you shape the visually shape the poems. I mean, so it has that visual aspect to it. So, so I think my colleagues all know what's coming being and, and, and it's, it's 17 syllables in a five, seven, five arrangement. Poet Laureate. Joyfully, we welcome you. Words become great art. And so with that, uh, an emotion, uh, by Mrs. Mohan, uh, and to, to appoint you as Poet Laureate in a second by Mr. Corsi, Mr. Hind. Mr. Yes, Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. Helma. Yes. This is Mohan. Yes. And thank you. Mr. Diggins. Yes. We're so close to a IQ there somewhere. We're going to make it work in a real call vote at some point. I look forward to that. It's unanimous vote. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Take care. Bye. Thank you. Good night. And so now I need to scroll back over to the windows. I'll take me, there we go. Open forum. Hey, so except in unusual circumstances, any matter presented for consideration of the board shall neither be act upon nor decision made the night of the presentation in accordance with the policy on the wish the open forum was established. It should be noted that there is a three minute time limit to present a concern or request. And so, Ms. Meyer, what do we have? It looks like we have one hand raised at this time. I'll be promoting them and sharing my screen for the timer. Great. Thank you. Oh, maybe two hands now. Who do we have? Mr. Ward, Steve Ward. Unmute. Okay. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Thank you, Chairman Diggins. Thank you. Steven Ward, I'm a five year resident of the Arlington Housing Authority. And my, I have a written presentation. It's about a page and a half. But I've also submitted it to the select board office in hopes that it would be something that you would all consider at the next meeting of the board in an official capacity, because what I'm trying to do is petitioning the select board's endorsement of consideration for the issues surrounding the candidate selection for the tenant member of the board of directors at the Arlington Housing Authority, which the most recent one you all selected a young lady by the name of Fiorella Badia. The problem, of course, is that the governor has never spelled out in the law exactly how they are supposed, we are supposed to muster up the candidates, which means that the board could have as many as 50 candidates showing up. And this needs to be collected by Senator Frieden and Mr. Representative Garballi. And all the information I have sent earlier to Chairman Diggins, the concerns most of it, I have left the detail that I want to really present to you tonight with the select board's office and hoping that they will take it and submit it to all of you for your perusal. This is an important issue because the Arlington Housing Authority represents over fifty seven million dollars in taxpayer property. And it's a four and a half million dollar operation that very few people have any idea of what's happening there. Very few people understand this quasi governmental agency that the town in its generosity of accepting a tax as a made a tax exempt is for going more than half a million dollars in taxes every year for this place. And it's what we need to have is a equitable and democratic selection process for the candidate for the board of directors for your appointal, which is coming up in another year and a half. So there's a limited amount of time, both for us to address this and for me to continue speaking. If you would like to hear my presentation that I've written up, just tell me so I don't know. It's a page and a half here to the board that I typed up. No, we will read it. We're out of time. You know, maybe if you want to come back next week, you can do in three minutes again, but I will I will contact staff and we'll we'll take it up next time. So thank you very much for your time tonight. OK, thank you.  Can you just tell me who it is, Ms. Marner? Yes, it's Kristen Anderson. Hey, Sanish, are you ready to go? Yes, hi. Thank you, select board, town manager and town council for all your good work. My name is Kristen Anderson. I run a business in the industrial zone in the Heights. I have been in touch with a number of other Arlington businesses located in the industrial zone, and we are concerned about a warrant article that the redevelopment board is voting on this evening. We would be at the ARB meeting tonight, except that the ARB will be voting on this warrant article before taking any public comment. The name of the proposed article is ARB jurisdiction over industrial district. I've reached out to town council Doug Hyme for clarification about this article and hope to hear back about it. Our concern about this warrant article is that it may allow the ARB to change the use in the industrial zone to residential and we worry that existing and future businesses will not be able to compete with residential market rates and businesses will be pushed out of town. Arlington needs more businesses, not fewer. Local businesses provide jobs. Local businesses provide services and products to Arlington residents and local businesses provide a commercial tax base to the town. Local businesses play an important role in the community, making for more vibrant and walkable neighborhoods. And so we ask you to consult with town council to determine whether this proposed bylaw would allow the ARB to change the use in the industrial zone to residential. And if it does, please support the town's existing and future businesses by voting no action on this warrant article when it is brought before the select board. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Anderson. You're welcome. Have a good night. So that will be it for Open Forum. We'll have a second opportunity for people who will stay around and maybe have something to say towards the end of the meeting and moving on to traffic rules in order, other business item number eight, recommendation from the Transportation Advisory Commission. And we have I see Ms. Juan in the room. So I miss one. Thanks for joining us, and you're going to you're going to present this recommendation much better than I could. So it's all yours. Hello, I'm Laura Swan, and I am the chair of the Transportation Advisory Committee. And we voted this December to recommend some improvements by Crosswalk at Summer Street and Victoria Road, which is right across from Buzzlefield. It's a heavily used crosswalk by a lot of families and people trying to access the field and get to the Minuteman Bikeway. This particular crosswalk has come before TAC before, and there was a restriction in the amount of parking in front of the field, basically about 40 feet. But there has been sort of a continuing complaints from the residents. People often park in the new parking zone, and we took another look at this and came up with some of some more I'd say intensive recommendations of restricting parking even farther in order to create a safe stopping distance for cars approaching this crosswalk, as well as installing a rectangular rapid flashing beacon with a paired beacon ahead that will let cars know when people are trying to use this crosswalk and that the beacon is activated and in order to sort of really enforce these these no parking zones, we're going to recommend putting something like flex posts and perhaps like striping or in other ways, painting the pavement or to really indicate to parkers that they should not park right up next to the crosswalk and that this way, people will be able to see the cars coming and be able to save the cross and cars will be able to identify when pedestrians are at the curb right across at this crosswalk. I will say that there is a plan for the Mystic River Bikeway to connect to the Minuteman around here at Buzzlefield. And this means that in the near future, probably still several years out, the location of this crosswalk may shift possibly to the other side of Victoria Street. And so another more intensive options like doing a sidewalk bump out just don't really seem appropriate at this time until we know for sure what that connection is going to look like. So please let me know if you have any questions. Oh, I should add that as part of this sort of restricting parking, there will be five additional spots, parking spaces, mostly on the south side along the field that will be marked as no parking. So there will be a little bit of, I would say, loss of parking alongside the field. But hopefully this will make it safer for people trying to cross and get to the field. Thank you, Ms. Juan. And so I turn to my colleagues. Questions? Ms. Mahan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Ms. Juan. And please pass on my colleagues, thanks to the Transportation Advisory Committee, just the detailed report in terms of identifying current situation as well as coming up with some recommendations. And I appreciate you're also taking even longer term in terms of the possible connection. I don't know if I call it the trail, the bikeway, known by many names and used by many people in different different forms of traveling. So I definitely would move approval. I just wanted to double check. Did you say I'm just going by what's in the report? But I think I heard you just say in terms of the loss of parking that it would be five spaces. That's correct on both sides of the street. There'll be one side on sort of like the north in between the existing driveway and a crosswalk.  There. So this would sort of extend that no parking zone and protect it. And I definitely agree. I know that when I've driven by there and it's been games at the Buzzlefield, Andorra, Allington Catholic High School field. And I see not only our student athletes and our students from both high schools as well as our youngsters from Buzzlefield, but grandparents and strollers and wheelchairs and walkers. And I know when I see all the cars parked on both sides, I just kind of squint a little and say a little prayer going through there and as well as sometimes seeing other cars and get impatient and kind of want to buzz through there. So I'm definitely in agreement with that recommendation because a lot of the times with SUVs and larger vehicles, you really can't see anyone until they step out into the road, which frightens me to death. So and again, please pass along our thanks to the committee. I know we put a lot on your platter. You don't have a plate anymore. Give me another word for something that's bigger than platter. I'll say that's what we. But it's definitely appreciative. But once again, a pretty much all volunteer committee that's bringing their expertise from their day job and helping Allington make not only safer, but also a community that a lot of people want to get involved in the process. And so sorry to be so wordy there. Thank you, Miss Swann. And thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Ms. Maher, Mr. Hurd. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you for the presentation. I'll second the motion. Spend a lot of time in Buzzlefield and it can be a little treacherous to cross there. We made some improvements a few years ago, which made it better, but certainly didn't solve all the problems. So I think it's a work in progress and I do appreciate tax efforts on this. I also think unrelated to the what's right before us. There's a discussion that we can have further about how the permit parking works on the lot on the backside of Buzzle, because I were often there on the weekend and I think a lot of the permit holders use those spots to work during the work week and there's never anyone parked there during the weekend when Buzzle gets the most use. But again, it's unrelated to this and I don't want to bog down your presentation. But as it triggered my memory that I wanted to talk about that, I thought through that out there so we can hold my feet to the fire to follow up on it. So again, thank you for the work on this. I think it will make a big help and hopefully we'll continue the discussion and to make it as safe as possible in that location. Thank you, Mr. Dacorsi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, Ms. Swan, and all the members of TAC for the comprehensive report on this area. And it is a challenge if you're driving down Summer Street and there is activity at the park, you get close to that crosswalk and you just can't see people coming out. Just one question and you mentioned holding off on the more costly capital improvements that the flashing beacon is that that is not one of the more costly improvements. Is that that's as I read the recommendation that's being recommended to install in the short term? I just wanted to clarify on on that point. Hopefully, as soon as possible, it would definitely alert drivers, and especially where recommending a rapid flashing beacon that it's paired with a sort of advanced working morning beacon. I think there's a similar one on Lowell Street. And so this will give drivers ahead of the curve advanced warning that they may need to stop. I did ask our DPW and they said that this sort of beacon can be moved. They can sort of salvage the the footing. They'll leave that concrete in the ground, but they they can move that sort of beacon and simply install a new footing for it. If there is a shift in the future that would necessitate like repositioning that beacon. OK, thank you for that. That was going to be my second question. And and I do see a need for it in the short term. So I'm glad it can be installed sooner and is an ability to move it. So again, thanks for the presentation. And I certainly will support Mrs. Mahan's motion here. OK, any other comments? OK, well, I'll say it. Well, I feel as if I can't say too much because I'd be patting myself on the back. But we all know that, I mean, everyone else in that community does a whole lot more work than I do. So I really am complimenting the work that the committee does. I mean, I'm continuing to learn a lot by being on the committee. And and maybe I just didn't see it mean the first time when we were approving this because sometimes I have to pop out to another meeting. But but that product, including in 1972, special speed regulation is impressive. Not only that he knew of the existence, but then he went ahead and put it in the report. So so those little details always impressed me. But thank you for the work and the recommendation. And I have asked the town manager, I mean, at some point in the near future, mean to let us know what happens, mean when we approve these mean the next steps in so that mean we've gotten requests from people who raised these issues. They want to kind of know what happens until the town manager is going to give us a little bit of a rundown on that. So on a motion by Mr. Mohan to accept the recommendation from tack for this intersection, you know, was crosswalk and a second by by Mr. Herd, is Mr. Han. Mr. Herd, Mr. Herd. Yes, Mr. DeCorsi. Yes, Mr. Helman. Yes, Mrs. Mohan. Yes, Mr. Diggins. Yes, it's unanimous vote. Thank you. See you around. Take care. Bye. Bye. So moving on. I'm going to nine discussion and update fossil fuel infrastructure. So that's over to you, Mr. Han. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Excuse me. Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to announce on this discussion. I'm sorry, attorney Han. I'm going to be recusing myself from the discussion of the the fossil fuel infrastructure. So I just wanted to alert you to that before you began that discussion. All right. Thank you, Mr. Corsi. Sorry, I didn't see it. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The purpose of this agenda item is really to give the board a general update and answer any questions that the board might have. Did we lose this? Yeah, I was about to interrupt to say, I mean, so I think we lost her. I mean, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't intentional. I mean, so maybe we can just like wait a couple of minutes. I mean, and see if she can rejoin us. You know, we'll give it a go. I see Ms. Mahan in the attendees list. So I think if she could be promoted to panelist that might do the job. Okay. Thank you. There she there you are. I suspect you can hear us. Back. Great. Nice to meet. So, so just in case you missed it, Mr. Corsi, you know, I'm stepping out for this part of the conversation. So, Mr. Heim. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So the purpose of this agenda item is just to keep the board abreast of some developments relative to the town's efforts to regulate the installation of essentially new fossil fuel lines for major renovations or for new construction. The background to this is as the board may recall at a special town meeting in December of 2020 town meeting passed both a proposed by law and a home rule petition that would allow the town to regulate the installation of fossil fuel infrastructure in furtherance of many, many of its goals, including its serial goals and its general climate change and local air pollution goals. That special legislation essentially was was a an effort that many other communities were engaging at the same time, including the neighborhood, the neighborhood and the neighborhood communities like Brookline. And the result of that was a municipal fossil free fossil fuel free building demonstration program, essentially a ten community pilot program to allow communities to have that authority, which otherwise we would not have normally fossil fuel are regulated by state law and the department of public utilities, but to allow us essentially the ability to to enact a program like the one that Arlington tried to get the authority to enact through town meeting, through a home rule petition. There are some conditions on that. I won't go through all of them right now, but just to say that through the substantial efforts of this board, the Clean Energy Future Committee, many dedicated Arlington residents, we have sort of reserved our spot as one of the priority communities that gets to participate in this project. In order to keep going, we have to submit what's called a letter of intent by September 1st, 2023 and application by November 10th of 2023 and then have all of our eligibility requirements met by February 11th of 2024. Now, again, without going into too much detail, we've already met a lot of those because we've already enacted a home rule petition. We don't need to do it again. But one thing that we do need to do is enact a local bylaw. Unfortunately, the timing of this is all a little bit tricky because the DOER's promulgated some draft regulations which would sort of concrete what exactly the town needs to do and when with respect to this program. But those regulations may not be finalized until as late as June of this year. So the only sort of action item right now is those draft regulations have a comment period that's open until February 8th. What we have done, Talia Fox, the town's sustainability director myself and members of the Clean Energy Futures Committee have met in an attempt to, I know Mr. Helmuth is part of that group in an attempt to sort of garner a general understanding of what some of the potential issues might be for these regulations. The most concrete issues are things like timing as well as what level of discretion we're gonna have to design a fossil fuel free bylaw for Arlington. And the only major step here really is for us to see whether we want to comment on these regulations. So the board doesn't need to take a vote, it doesn't need to do anything necessarily but if board members want to provide some input or perspective to myself, to Ms. Fox, it would be helpful so that the manager can decide how much we should be commenting on these draft regulations and whether or not we wanna have somebody present at the hearing for these draft regulations to just emphasize that it's important that communities like Arlington have been fighting for this authority for some time have some discretion to regulate fossil fuels as closely to the bylaw that we passed as possible. And also that we have enough time to meet these eligibility requirements because for example, we have no control over how long it takes for DHCD or for the municipal law unit of the Attorney General's office to approve certain actions required for us to join the pilot. So I know that's a mouthful, it's got quite a long complicated procedural history but if the board members have any questions or concerns, I'm happy to answer them to the best of my ability now but I'm also happy to take any individual feedback the board might have aimed towards the town providing some comment that again ensures the town's rights to join this program are maximally protected. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Heim. And I kind of got the feeling that Mr. Helmets wanted to say something, no? No, okay, all right. You just seem like you're leaning forward with your hand kind of, okay, you know. So listening intently, that's all. There we go. So any comments, questions from colleagues? And Mr. Heim. Mr. Chair, if the board doesn't, has any comments after tonight, please just make sure to provide them to me or to Ms. Fox or the town manager so we can make sure that anything that the board would like to express or like to have us vet with these draft regulations is something that we think about. I'll just give you like a small example. One of the things that Arlington passed in its original bylaw that we wanted to have the authority to enact was an exemption for cooktops, essentially stoves. We wanted to be able to have our bylaw would allow the exemption of that from a prohibition on installing a fossil fuel line. The current model regulation that DOER is promulgated, our bylaw, the DOER is suggesting, apologies, doesn't allow for that exemption. We think that these regulations will probably give us some latitude with respect to waivers and exemptions of things of that nature, but that's not certain. And so that's one point that we think could be clarified in the model and the draft regulations so far. So that's the kind of thing that we're talking about. And if board members have any feedback or would like to talk more, please contact my office or Ms. Fox. Thank you. That's interesting. That is interesting. Because I would have thought that perhaps people would have been a little more aggressive and not wanted that exemption because I was also thinking about the hot water heaters and there's like an exemption for units that are 12,000 square feet, a larger mean that they can eat their water with gas. And I was kind of wondering, well, can't we just like, can we just use like electric and hot water heaters mean for not use of tanks at all? That said, I mean, I think you have a great commission in town and I'm inclined to go with me. Their recommendations, I know you'll be working with them. So follow their guidance. I mean, Mr. Anlin certainly talked with me about it and I understand the rationale. So I'm supportive of what he is in favor of and would defer to his position on things because of his depth and breadth of knowledge. And probably when this comes forward and needs someone to speak to me, I will no longer be chair. Who knows, even if I'll be on the board, but if I am in a position to be able to speak on behalf of the board, I'll be happy to do that. If the chair at that time will allow me to do so. So I hope that's enough guidance at least for now. And if not, I may have something else to say later, unlikely, so you don't need us to do anything, but just, okay. No, Mr. Chairman, thank you. All right, seems like nothing else. So maybe we can bring back Mr. Corsi. Thanks, Mr. Corsi. So we'll now move on to an update on the long range plan. So I will turn this over to my colleague, Mr. Corsi, the chair of that committee, Long Range Planning Committee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, just to update board members, last week, the Long Range Planning Committee met and we've been meeting throughout the fall and winter. And earlier this month, the town manager issued his budget and within his budget recommendation is the current five year plan or list of projections over the next several years. And what they show right now is that in Perfiscal 24, the upcoming year, it's unlikely that we will have a deficit. Perfiscal 25, however, there is a projected deficit of about $2.6 million. And then it rises dramatically after that period. We're at the, now in the fourth year, back in 2019, when we put the 2019 override on the ballot, we made a commitment that we would not come back to the voters for at least four years with a request for a subsequent override. So I'm not here to make a recommendation or doing anything like that, but we are at a point where we're getting close to requiring a discussion as to the timing and if it is this year, the potential amount of an override. And in talking to the town manager as he presented to the Long Range Planning Committee, because we have a new governor, the governor's budget is not submitted until March 1st. And so the local aid numbers are not gonna be known, there are estimates that are available, but until that budget comes out, that is the best indication of the starting point. And that really goes a long way to determining what the outlook will be in fiscal 25. So as we move forward, Long Range Planning is gonna meet on February 17th. And then after the governor's budget comes out on March 10th, between now and the dates, the town manager will be presenting his budget to us along with a presentation of the five-year plan. I imagine that's gonna be in one of our February meetings that leave that to the chair. He also is presenting his budget to the Finance Committee on February 1st. One of the thing I would say as part of the Long Range Planning discussion, the board will recall when we did have the last override request, the commitments I referred to, there was a series of commitments on spending both on the town and the school side. And I think given where we may be going over the next couple of months, the suggestion was made for schools to think about what type of proposal they would like to make, would make for commitments that we would have to consider as part of the override. And we'll also need to hear a lot more from the town manager in terms of timing, but I did wanna update the board and I would guess within the next several weeks, we're gonna have a detailed presentation from the town manager, exactly where our financial situation, where things stand and where it could go between now and March. And the chairman, you were at the meeting as well. I know you might wanna add to any other observations that you've had from that meeting and the timetable. No, no, the timetable meeting reflected it all perfectly. So I did come out of it with some thoughts, especially about new growth being, and I'll be discussing that a little bit later when we talk about potential warrant articles. Ms. Mohan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can you hear me? I don't know if I'm using it myself. Nope. Can you hear just fine. Perfect. I just wanted to ask either the chair of long range planning or town council, not necessarily tonight unless they know the answer, but I know the town submitted, I think it was a whole no petition after regarding the town manager and his or her reporting relative to the budget. And I know, I believe Mr. DeCorsi reported on some conversations that he had and others with the finance committee to kind of work that out. I know it was submitted to the state. I have a memory that it may, if it hasn't been recently enacted, it should be soon. So I don't know if Mr. DeCorsi or Cheney Hine have any word on that. If they don't, that's fine. I don't want them could look into it and just forward that information to the board. Zon? I don't have a update at my fingertips. I know it's been filed and I believe that it, apologize, I know that somebody actually gave me an update on this recently and it's in my mind, but I don't remember, but I can give the answer to that as soon as possible and let the board know. If you can, I have a memory in my head that somebody told me it cleared the Los Turtle and the state, it has passed. So somebody could just check into that and let the select board know. If that's the case, great. If not, let's be anticipated data. So thank you. Mr. Corsi? I don't know, Mr. Cork, thank you. Sorry. Zon? Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. And yeah, just to follow up that that was enacted, but because of the timing of it, Mr. Pooler completed his budget submission on the pre-existing schedule required him to complete that by January 15th and then have the subsequent presentation. So for next year and for this year because Governor Healy has additional time on the budget, the timing wasn't as critical, next year it will be because that will give the town manager additional time. So next year will be February one. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Corsi. Any other comments, questions? Okay, and so we will move on to item number 11, update on the town manager search process, that's me. So the screening committee met for the first time last week. We got 20 submissions and we have decided that we're going to interview six candidates over to today's February 2nd and February 7th. And I think we're making good progress here. I mean, I would imagine if we want, we could probably plan on when we might, as a committee, as a board have in our meeting to interview the finalists. I'm thinking that could potentially be during the week of the 20th, but just think about it, we can probably nail something down at our next meeting on the 6th. And so I'll turn it over to my colleagues for questions, comments. Mr. Helman. Thank you, Mr. Chair. What's the expectation for the number of finalists that will, does the committee understand what the select board's request is? That we made a request to know how many, sort of no fewer than, no greater, no more than finalists that are turned over to us. Well, it'll be two or more, you know.  I mean, if we interview everyone and it's like, oh, nothing good here. You know, that's not going to be the case because we had some really, really good applications being, but at a minimum too, because it has to be because we're not selecting, we're screening, you know. And so, Yeah. Thank you. I think that we hadn't explicitly had the discussion. I think that it might, I don't know if we need to vote or not, or if we do, if they're chair of the entertainer motion, I'd be happy to make one that my other colleagues are interested. But I think the important point is that the screening committee, if we feel like we've given the screening committee enough parameters, and if we want to weigh in on that question of setting that, sort of a minimum or a maximum. I mean, what has been in my mind is I'd like to see no fewer than three and no more than five with a preference to three or four. That's just me. And forgive me if we've discussed this already and I'm just having an early senior moment. But yeah, if my name that I always feel like we need to discuss it or vote on it, I'd leave that to you. Well, I'm not seeing any hands made up. I would say, especially given the folks that are on the screening committee being, we are going to bring forth being as many as we think we should come forward to be worth me the candidate's time and the board's time. And I think if we try to mandate a number, that could make things potentially a little complex. I mean, especially if when it comes time for the names to be made public, I mean, things begin to change. Now, I think we are sophisticated enough that we could handle that. I mean, so if the board definitely wants to set a number, I mean, the screening committee will abide by that. So, but I think you can trust this to bring you forward being a good number of candidates, I mean, that are worthwhile. Yeah, Ms. behind. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Not that history, it takes, but I know in the past, and I think it has to do with once it gets to the next level, we have to publish, make public their name, but in the previous town manager searches, and anyone who knows more than me, please correct me on to this, but in the previous searches, I've been involved with, I'm blanking what it is, three or four. We have traditionally, and I'm not saying we have to, but traditionally have received three candidates names, but then again, I believe when it gets to that next step, we have to make public their names. So I would be fine with four or five, but I think three works, as well as I'd rather make three names public versus five, but I'm not against that either. So I just wanna let you know in the past, traditionally this and three, we make their names public and go from there, but again, I'll be guided by whatever the committee puts forth to us. I just know that the committee also is cognizant, is also aware that the next step in the process does involve a more public part of that process. So three would be ideal, but if you come up with more than that, then that's what comes out of the committee. So thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I wanna make it clear what I mean by trust us to, is that me, I want you to trust us to make, to allow the select board to make the decision, I mean, we're not going to try to limit the decisions, meaning and so that's really what I'm getting at. So Mr. Corsi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, and I think we all have a lot of confidence in the screening committee and we're all pleased to hear that you've started and it sounds like a great group. I think just to Mrs. Mahan's point, and I don't wanna dictate the exact number, I don't, you know, we don't wanna limit you in terms of what would come forward, but I do feel like anything lower than three, I think becomes potentially a problem just because sometimes candidates pull out at that, at that last stage. So three, my experience in earlier search committees and not being in the seat that I'm in now is that we've seen three or four. I wouldn't wanna tell you this is exactly what we want, but I guess I would say that one or two, I think is a little bit of a problem in terms of what comes through for us to consider. And then it's just a comment. And you are all in the best position to evaluate the resume to conduct the interviews at this point. Well, just to be clear, one isn't legal because that means that we're doing a selection. So you're definitely getting two or more. But I will say it's helpful to have a sense of what the board thinks would be the maximum number of candidates you would want to interview, what you think is, I think not only your preference, but also what you think is practical. Mr. Heard. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't wanna belabor this because I think we're all in the same place. Yeah, I think three would probably be the minimum we would expect and it would be odd if it feels like to get six. So I think three to five is a good range. And you have some leeway based on that range. And I don't think we need a motion as much as just, I think everyone on the board has expressed that that's our wishes to see three to five names come out of the screening committee. And I think we can leave it at that. So in case someone doesn't wanna just leave it at that, if you wanna see a little bit more, here's your chance. See, all right, we're gonna leave it at that. And I have my orders and I'm gonna present them to the screening committee as such. So moving on to our discussion and potential vote on overnight parking pilot. And so I'll start this one off. And just say kind of for the record, I need someone forward to be emailed, I think from the A list. And I just wanna say, promise is not a word that I use. I have goals and intents and the extent to which those who are accomplished vary. It's based on circumstances. I always try to achieve my goals, mean always intend to, but to me, I mean promise is a word that's just so laden with emotion being in and means that I'm locked into a position. So any time someone says that, as a group, when promised something, it's a mischaracterization. And so we are being, I think, as transparent in as we can be in this process, mean and these meetings are all recorded, people can look at them. I mean, I think we've laid out a kind of timeline to when we want to make a decision. And that's at the last meeting in February 27th, mean and so at the previous meeting that said that we would discuss two items, meaning that I think we need to flesh out our resolve for determining what the nature of the pile is gonna be. The first one is whether it's gonna be townwide, and the second is the amount that we will charge for a permit, and so I want to open the discussion up to those two issues in this segment, but before moving forward, I wanted to turn to Mr. Corsi to see if he wants to say or add anything. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just on your point on promises, and I go back to the very first discussion I had on this when back before I was chairing them, and in talking to people, I made no guarantees as to where the board would end up, but what I did guarantee is that there'd be a discussion about it and that certainly is what we're having here. So I'm in agreement with you in terms of the whole, whether it's promise or we'll go through a process here, we make recommendations, but at the end of the day, it's the full board that decides this, and you've put this on the agenda several times and we've had discussions on it, and I think that's what we are, but there was, in my recollection, there was no guarantees as to what was going to happen, but we were gonna talk about it. And certainly, our goal and our strong intent is to have another forum. I mean, when we have as many details as we work out, and then get input from residents, mean as to what we're thinking and perhaps change based on input. Mr. Herd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just John Clay, you want thoughts on those two issues right now? Yeah, yeah, and I think if we were gonna focus on one, it would be maybe whether we do time-wide or not, because I think that'll be the easier one and then the harder one, I think, will be whether and how much to charge for a permit marking. So yes, those two. Famous last words. We'll see if that is easy. I think, yeah, I've put some thought into this and I know you both have put a lot of work and talked to a lot of people on this. I think that it should be town-wide pilot just because eventually if it gets, whether it's ballot question or we decide if it's gonna be a permanent change, I think it would have to be town-wide because if we put it just in one geographical location, I think that we hear a lot of noise from people that aren't in that location that have issues with it. And I think if you're gonna do a pilot, you wanna get the best, most accurate results that you can from the pilot, and it could be a situation where you limited to Easton Arlington and then it's a wild success in Easton Arlington and then we have a ballot question and it gets turned down again. So I think to get the right data, it should be a town-wide pilot. I do think there should be some sort of a fee. I don't know if we can hammer out and meeting exactly what that would be, but my understanding is this is, instead of just an lifting of the overnight parking ban, it's more of a relaxing of our requirements to issue overnight parking stickers. Right now it's very strict and very hard to get an overnight parking sticker. This is us saying that come to us and we'll give it to you. And I think in order to do that, you should have some sort of a fee just to make sure, because we don't want people that don't necessarily need overnight to park on the street, to park on the street just because it's more convenient when they have just as easy parking spaces in their driveways. And I think some sort of, even if it's a nominal fee, I don't think any fees that we charge are exorbitant even for the parking lots that we have last time I checked it was about a dollar a day. But if we come up with some sort of a fee for the permit, that limits it to the people that need it. And again, that's what gives us the most accurate results. Whereas if we don't charge a fee for the permit, but we're eventually gonna charge a fee down the line, it's apples and oranges when we're trying to look at how well the program was received. So those are my two thoughts. Thank you, Mr. Hurd, Ms. Mohan. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Hurd said exactly what I was thinking. So I won't go on and on and on, but I definitely think it should be town-wide for the pilot. And I definitely think this should be a fee because even for the pilot, because if there was not one, I think it would taint the study, taint the pilot in the fact that as Mr. Hurd said, everybody might just say, we can all park on the street overnight now if there's no fee. And that doesn't really give you a true census of people that actually are going to, or actually do need this because they don't have any other option if there's a fee. As Mr. Hurd stated, it indicates intent more. So yes, town-wide, yes, fee. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Ms. Mohan. Mr. Helmets, yeah, I was hoping you wanted to chime in. This wasn't gonna force it, so thank you. This is one more. I definitely want to listen to my more experienced colleagues first, but I agree on both points. I think with respect to the fee, sorry, our good DPW is making noise outside plow on my street. Thank you for that, all of you. I've been thinking about the fee and we don't know what it's gonna be, of course, but I'm open to being talked out of this, but I right now feel like it should cover the cost, the incremental cost, if there's going to be a cost of administering a much larger permit program. So for me, I need to know, it's a little trick in our egg because we don't really know what the demand's gonna be. I think we can expect it'll be substantial, but that's a guess. So I'm glad I don't have to guess what the uptake will be, but we do need to at least make an educated guess and informed guess about what the uptake and workload will be for administration of it. And I would really want to see a very thorough analysis of that so that we understand what we're getting into so that we are confident we can do it. For me, tying that to the cost of the stickers is pretty important given the presentation we just had about the long range plan and the need for a pending override. Again, I don't have a, I'm not, it's not a hill I'm gonna die on, but I would feel better about administering a new service or a new program that is, it's a new thing, it's an optional thing that people don't have now that the fee would reflect the cost of that service because not everybody will use that or necessarily needs to use that. So that's kind of my thinking about that. I look forward to hearing more from the community and from my colleagues about that. And I think beyond that, if I can color outside the lines just a little bit, I think that, I am very comfortable that this should be a select board decision. I think what I understand for the history of this is that it's a complex issue that we heard in even in the first forum and in past conversations that there are people with sincerely held beliefs that differ on this. I heard in the last forum that there's a lot of listening and understanding going on between those people in each position too. But I think it is our decision. I think as one of the five people making that decision, I would welcome the opportunity to hear more from the community in a structured way. To another forum, I don't know if it's a survey, I don't know what it is, I'll leave that to you, Mr. DeCorsi and others working on this. But that's kind of what I'm looking for before I'd be prepared to make a decision of whether even we do this is in the operational details of the permit program, what's really involved and we're really sure we can do it. And the final thing I would say too is encouraging us to really be serious about a pilot and I think so that it doesn't just become a de facto policy that we go into any good pilot program with a clear idea of what we want to learn, an operationalized idea of what that means, what are we gonna look at on a list of things? What's gonna be success or failure? How do we define that? What kind of outcomes are we expecting? It's okay for some of that to be open-ended because that's the nature of this but I would just encourage us to be very thoughtful about that so that we can say to the community and defend why this really is a pilot program and not kind of a soft launch to a permanent product but that we really would, pardon the cough drop, but we really would take this seriously and look at what happens before we decide whether to make this a permanent program or not. Thank you. Mr. Corsi, do you want to go next or do you want me to? Yeah, I'll just go and I think thank you too or to our colleagues when Mr. Poole had presented the memo last meeting, that was the first opportunity for our colleagues to take a look at some of the recommendations and now I think we did safe to say that there is a consensus that it should be town-wide. One thing I want to ask you, Mr. Chair, maybe for input from our colleagues as well, one other issue that had come up in the discussions that Mr. Poole had with the department heads is whether we do this on one side of the street or two sides. And I think in addition to the fees, which I think there's some more analysis that probably needs to take place before we set on an amount, but I was wondering the consensus of the department heads who met with the town manager was that it should be a one-sided, one side of the street program for the six months, but I don't know if any other members have any thoughts on that or any, you know, how that strikes them. Well, my recollection from last meeting was that we had decided on one side and that's why there were just these two outstanding issues. I could be dreamy, you know, and certainly if my colleagues want to chime in on that one, we can go around the horn, you know, so I'll start with some. But Craig, yeah, no, sorry, miss that. That's it, if that's what we did, then fine. But still with some, maybe they can tell me whether I'm dreaming or whether I'm, is it mine? I don't know if we were dreaming at the last meeting or this meeting, but I agree with one side. Thank you. Mr. Helmuth? I dream of a one-side program. Mr. Hurd? Yeah, I mean, I think we talked about one-sided and I think most town, cities and towns do odd-even parking. So, you know, odd-years, odd-numbers, even-years, even-numbers, and make it simple. We'll confuse them and we'll do odd-on-even-years and I think generally people will know when they see which side of the street car is parked on and they'll figure it out. Is that like when the word is like green but it's color is red and you're supposed to like, like that? Okay, so then Mr. DeCorsi? Yeah, nothing further. All right, so with respect to how much I mean, how much, I mean, so as I think Mr. Hurd noted me, it's a dollar a day which we used a lot. I worked with Ms. Meyer to get some data on what's going on in the lots, I mean, and we have right now, I mean, 46 users, I mean, 45 if you take out the employee that's using it. And of those 45, I mean, 18, I mean, or not charged because we have a process by which people can prove hardship and then they're not charged for it.  So my inclination, I mean, would be me to keep the permit at that level, I mean, roughly $400 a year, $100 a quarter, because we don't want to encourage people, we who don't need to use street parking to do so. I mean, we do have a program, I mean by which we can handle hardship. I think the question now is whether it is just an all or none type program being or do we try to scale it in some way, or increment it in some way that will add complexity to it?  I see Mr. Hine's hand up, so I'm going to stop. Is, yeah. Mr. Stiggins, maybe I misunderstood, I apologize if I did, but I just want to be clear that when we set a fee associated with something supposed to be tied to the cost of, of basically administering the fee, so one of the things that we should have calculated is, what do we think it's going to cost to run this program or at least our best guess? Because we can't raise revenue, nor can we necessarily have a goal to discourage somebody from engaging in a particular activity by setting a fee at a certain level. So what we want to try to do is capture the costs and if the costs are high, we can certainly allow them to be high because they probably will be, you know, somewhat significant in terms of enforcement or you can sort of artificially depress them. We just want to try to make sure that if there was anybody who was going to say, what is this fee anchored to? We'd say, well, this fee is anchored to our best estimate of what will cost the combination of town departments to essentially administer this program. All right, that's good to know. You know, so, so I need to explore me. The consequences aren't quite the right word for the ramifications of that, you know, in terms of just overall goals of the town. Because for me, the goal isn't to raise revenue. It is more to not increase the desire for people to utilize street parking when they aren't now because the costs of that are detrimental, but I don't think we'd really tie it to be a specific cost of the town to be more of a movement away from what we consider be sustainable, be transportation and a sustainable living environment. As in planet. So, Ms. Mohan. And just very quick, and I apologize if I wandered off in my mind, but I know we're discussing agenda item 13, and I don't think we're doing a vote tonight. Did I miss, are we going to do agenda item 12? Do we still have two items under that or did that get tabled that I wasn't paying attention? No, Ms. Mohan, I skipped it. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. There's a mistake in my part. I inadvertently skipped it, you know, so. No, that's fine. No, I can leave the town clerk on the participants, and I'm sure she's really intrigued by our discussion on this and would probably be equally intrigued on agenda item 14, but after this, if we can go back to 12. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, no, no, no, no. In my graph-related look, it's like, yeah, I can't believe I missed it, you know, but me and my eyes just aren't the best in. I really did miss it, so thank you, you know. So we'll certainly circle back to that really quickly, I think, because we're not, I don't think we're gonna get to a resolution on this one now, and certainly what Mr. Heim has said has made me like go, I need to think this through some more, you know, because we need to, yeah, just need to get through some more. Any other comments? All right, well, look, it was easy, Mr. Heard. You know, we did do the town-wide part of it, so I'll do that, and just that one big one to go, and need to do some more research, meaning to find out, because, yeah, anything more I'd just be repeating myself. So, all right, thank you for that. And so we're gonna circle back to item number 12, discussion and potential vote on select board warrant articles, meaning, and so I guess this is the point where we talk about things that any of us may want to put on the warrant is coming from the select board, but I'll turn to Mr. Heim to maybe just kind of set maybe the table for us on this. I mean, I didn't prepare you for this, Mr. Heim, so if you have nothing to add, that's fine, we'll just discuss about ourselves. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Basically, this item is only on to the extent the board wants to take a vote to place an article on as representative of the whole board's desire to have a discussion on a certain item on the warrant. The warrant doesn't close until January 27th, end of this week. Certainly, if there are other articles, I would encourage you to let the town manager know what's something else on the warrant. This article was written to the town clerk, the chair asked that I put on for discussion, and a number of members of the board have asked to have a discussion about amending the town manager act with respect to the term of appointment or an interim or acting town manager should a town manager not fulfill their three-year contract cycle. So folks have any questions about either one of these things? I'm happy to talk sort of procedurally about what these articles represent, what they don't, but otherwise it's obviously up to the board what they want to put on the warrant as coming from the select board. Thank you. Ms. Van. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Not to try to derail anything, but my feeling is until the warrant closes, I don't think we should be voting what we approve or just don't approve of as a warrant article only because of the concern that someone might say, well, traditionally the board is waited until warrant articles is closed. The board has up until the actual warrant goes to the printer to put in warrant articles. And my concern is that if we basically are conducting a warrant article hearing and then voting on a particular warrant article, a resident or residence and or a business, I only can business if it's applicable, could say that it might appear that we changed course from what we're doing that they weren't anticipating that we were gonna hold warrant article hearings, take votes even before the warrant is closed. I don't want anyone to say, I didn't get my opportunity, I really wanted to speak on that to the board to vote for it, to not vote for it. You've never done this in the past where the warrant hasn't even closed yet and you had the warrant article hearing and voted whether or not to support something or not support something. So, and that is in no way a indication of approval or disapproval on the two that are before us, but the board does have up until the warrant goes to print, which is about three plus weeks after the public announcement of the warrant closes at the end of January. So, I know we discussed it, I know the town clerk here tonight so I don't wanna circumvent or stop anything, but I know we've already had a discussion on it, but I guess I would say to my colleagues, I'm really uncomfortable with voting on any warrant article where the warrant hasn't closed yet and anybody who's thinking, well, I'm gonna wait till the warrant closes because then they schedule the hearings because I really wanna speak to them on a particular warrant article. I don't think we should be voting any tonight. So, thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you Ms. Mahan. Any other comments, questions? Mr. Halman. Thank you. My question is actually for town, for attorney, hi, there he is, I'd lock John Zubin for a moment. So, my going into this, realizing I'm newer member was that we needed to, I watched it back up and say, I completely agree with my esteemed colleague that we would not be holding a warrant article hearing tonight and voting on a mean motion. I see a difference between voting to put an agenda item on the warrant and having the hearing of voting that would be. But I say that just because my assumption coming into this is that we actually needed to take a vote before the warrant closes in order to place a select board item on the agenda. I do like the idea of putting both the town clerk's position and the town manager act amendment before town meeting just as a, because I think those are important questions for town meeting to decide. So I guess my question would be for attorney, hi, what, you know, if you could lay out your understanding of what our options are with respect to when the select board can put items on the warrant. Mr. Chairman, thank you. Yes, so I'm not suggesting that the select board is taking a vote on the substance of any warrant articles and moving positive action. The question or the agenda item before you is whether or not the select board wants to sponsor these two articles on the town meeting one. As folks may recall, when you look through the town warrant, there's a bunch of articles that say inserted by the select board at the request of the town manager or inserted by the select board at the request of the Clean Energy Future Committee or inserted by the select board at the request of some other entity, usually like the town treasurer or someone like that. I think these two articles are there to see if the town, if the select board wants to sort of say that these articles were from us, if the select board doesn't want the articles to be from you, somebody else can request them be put on the warrant. But if the select board wants these articles to be put on the warrant by the select board itself, that was my recollection of the process that we've been engaging in, but I'm not suggesting, and I think we're all in agreement, that this is not gonna be a warrant article hearing where any action that the board takes to put an article on the warrant would be the same thing as moving positive action on a warrant and having some sort of motion in front of you. Thank you, Mr. Attorney Hyde. So I personally am fine with the idea of our voting to place the agenda, to place these on the warrant. I'm not gonna make a motion though until I hear from the rest of my colleagues. So I think that consensus is worthwhile goal here in this. Okay, Mr. Thomas, anyone else wanna say anything? Mr. Chair, Mr. Corsi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I have a question too. I mean, I will say just for myself, having gone through the search or the negotiation process and all of us having gone through the process with the town manager, I individually, whether it's tonight or whether it's a date that we can do in the future, I personally would ask that the town manager warrant article be put on because I do think there's some issues with section 12 of the town manager act that we should consider. And I don't have anything to put before the board. I do have a question on the town clerk warrant article. The last meeting, I think there was some discussion whether it's tonight or whether it's another night, whether this should come from the select board or whether this should come from the town clerk or I think town clerk would be the other individual here. And I think that was part of the discussion. So I don't know, aside from timing, and I think attorney Heim said that warrant articles can come from other department heads and we've seen things come from the treasurer. We've seen things come from the town manager. I just want to make sure that we're okay in terms of timing, that if we don't take action this week to add these that we can add them at another time. And if there is some issue on the timing, I'd like to let it be known in the town manager warrant article, I'd make a request tomorrow to attorney Heim to put that on. So, you know, if there's any issue on January 27th, whether that request has been made. Mr. Chairman, Matt. Yes, please. Yes, Ms. Heim. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a little bit of tension with respect to what may have been long time board practice once upon a time and what we've sort of been doing for the last number of years. I guess what I'm saying is if the board wants to vote to put an article on the warrant as being requested by the board as a public body, that's an action that you vote on to take. If you want an article that maybe it's not something that's ready for your discussion and you want to see if it can be requested at the request of the town manager, it's just kind of a funky thing. It's like board controls the wine, but as you guys go through any warrant that you've had, you'll see that there are articles that are requested at the request of the town manager and the capital planning committee. For example, usually other bodies will take a vote to say we'd like to have these certain articles placed on the warrant or articles from a town staff member will usually get submitted by the close of the warrant just so we've got everything ready by the close of the warrant. In the annual town meetings cycle, it's important to remember that there's always a special town meeting within it. So if there's anything the board wants further time to consider or develop, the board has also oftentimes put in articles through the special town meeting warrant if they weren't quite ready to be voted on by the close of the annual town. Does that answer your question, Mr. Burson? Yes, thank you, attorney Han. Ms. Mohan.  I just wanted to say to Mr. Dacorsi regarding the town clerk warrant article that was presented in our last meeting and it was posed to the board. Long way of saying your memory is correct. It was posed to the board. Does the select board want to put this in? Nobody made a motion. And I know I was very clear where I said and town council can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm kind of surprised that it's back on again tonight and I don't want to waste the town clerk's time but I do remember saying I'm not hearing a motion. I don't want to make the motion because traditionally if something's put on by the select board, it's sort of inherent that means we're supporting it. And I'm not speaking for any of my colleagues on any warrant article but and then I do know I posed the question that A was my feeling this should come from the town clerk and B, I'm pretty sure that's been done in the past. This doesn't have to come from the select board. The town clerk could put this on and I'm pretty sure town council verified that yes and that that's sort of how we left that one. And then as far as if people want to change the process, my fear is we're starting to double of doing everything that I know town council is saying the board can vote tonight to submit a warrant article. Yes, we can. But again, I've cautioned to wait until the warrant closes because A is the select board takes a vote tonight. And I agree on the town manager warrant article, 182%, whatever the new over 100% thing is you're supposed to say. But if we vote to put it on before we, if we're saying, well, no, you're only voting tonight to say that you're gonna vote to put it on the agenda to have a warrant article hearing, we're doubling the work. I don't think we should vote anything tonight to be put on, submitted from the select board to go to town meeting until we probably had properly noticed that this is the warrant article hearing for warrant A, B and C for town clerk, for town manager clarifications, et cetera. So yes, I agree with town council. We could vote to say, oh, the board's gonna put this in as a warrant article submitted as the board, then post a warrant article hearing, then take a vote, which we could run that it's a five A vote against a warrant article that we've submitted. So long, long way of saying sort of what I said in the beginning, which was, I believe we already had discussion on the town clerk and we encourage the town clerk to submit that, which I assume would be after the warrant closes, maybe not and agree with you on the town manager, but I don't see how we could take a vote to say, oh, we're not holding the warrant article hearing tonight. We're just voting to put it in as a warrant article hearing. I think it's just doubling our work and what it says inserted at the request of the select board and then there's a five A vote against it. So we've never really done this in the past. We usually get all the warrant articles in, board submits whatever they want to do warrant articles, warrant article hearings get scheduled February, March and have the hearing vote. So thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Ms. Hart. I guess my head's spinning a little bit with a discussion, which it does sometimes with warrant articles. Attorney Heim, in order to have a hearing on this, does the select board need to have a vote to put this on the warrant? The vote that you'd be taking tonight is to put an article on from the select board. Yeah, no, I get that. So you still have to have a warrant article hearing if you want to substantively discuss what you want the motion to be. So there's, I guess my point is looking at the other way, does the select board have to take a vote in order for us? Do we have to take a vote as being requested for us from us in order to get to that warrant article hearing? And if I'm not being clear, then... Thank you, I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. Yes, please. If you want the warrant article to be from you, I think what I've tried to explain is that there's a couple of different ways in which a warrant article can appear on the warrant. I think what Ms. Mahana has explained well is that if you don't think that the town clerk article could come from somebody else, but if you want it to come from the select board, then you should take a vote to put it on the warrant as something the select board wants to be on the warrant. If, yeah. Okay, I guess my thought is, I don't really care who it says inserted in the warrant. I think people are gonna take the subsidence of the warrant and we have to do a warrant article hearing anyways. I think there's been plain instances where there's been select board members that have voted to put something on the warrant and then voted against it. So it seems like if we don't, it creates another step for someone else when we could just take a motion tonight. Mr. Helmets. Thank you. I think with respect to inventing the Town Manager Act for the purposes of, I believe it was Mr. DeCourse who said sections 12 to re-examine the procedures with what to do when the town manager resigns. I'd like to make the case that that should be placed by the select board. And maybe it's a bit of a special case rather than the town manager or asking Town Council or somebody else to do that because that's our hire. And I think that we, I think it looks really reasonable for the town meetings because they might think it's unusual if anybody else about the select board were to formally put that on the agenda. And for me, that's just saying, we recommend looking at this. I'm gonna make a motion that we do that tonight as a select board. And my motion will be asking Town Council to draft appropriate language, again, just as an agenda item, not anything to do with the merits of should we or shouldn't we and not anticipating what the recommended vote would be. But I just wanna get it on the warrants. With respect to the town clerks, I will defer to another member if they wanna make that motion. I think it'd be fine with doing so. But I'm cognizant that the town clerk herself could request that to be put in the motion on the warrant. I think that would be fine and appropriate too. The last thing I would say is that regardless of past practice and years past, I know that in more recent years, when the warrant closes, we generally respect that and mean that the warrant closes and I would prefer to avoid confusion on the part of the public that things are being added to the warrant after the warrant closes to the public. So my preference would be that we do what we're gonna do before that date and keep that nice and clean. I am aware that we do have the option as Attorney Heim reminded us of the special town meeting that's embedded in the Spring Town meeting. So we have another crack at this. But none of us, my motion for the town manager, one is on the table, Mr. Chair. Thank you. All right. Thank you, you know. So we do have that motion, Ms. Amhaad. I'd like to second that. Thank you. Okay. All right. So discussion, all right. So I have some questions. I guess, Mr. Heim, I mean, so any select board member could put something on the warrant as an individual, but not have to get signatures because that person is a member of select board. Mr. Chair, what my interpretation would be is that if somebody wants to place something on as an individual, really as an individual, they should go and get the requisite number of petition signatures. And they'll see that happen from time to time for different folks who wanna do something irrespective of what their committee or mission or board whoever wants to put on. The select board obviously as the chief executive officers, has conduit to the town manager, to other folks to say, hey, do we have a warrant article on XYZ and the town manager typically requests a lot of the warrant articles on the warrant. And so again, things that are requested by everybody else, the select board controls the warrant, are usually phrased in some version of requested by the rainbow commission or inserted by the select board at the request of the town manager, things of that nature. So I guess what I'm trying to say is, if there's something that you think needs to be put on the warrant that's not necessarily coming from the select board as a body, you still have the ability to communicate that to the town manager. And if it's something that's appropriate for the town manager request, you can put it on. The town manager can basically put it on the warrant manager's request. All I'm saying is that if there are things that the select board wants to talk about in the warrant, you can put an article on, as we're suggesting in Mr. Helmets motion to say the select board wants to have this discussion about this item on them. And you're taking a vote as a body to do that. But the member select board could go through the town manager and get it on that way is what I hear you say. If it's appropriate for the town manager, sure. You couldn't do that for like a zoning by-law. If you want a zoning by-law on, you can talk to the read it on the board, but that's ultimately up to them. If you want something put on by the finance committee, the finance committee has to take a vote on that. If you want the town manager to request something from the town manager, the town manager's just got to put the manager's title on it. Make sure that's appropriate. All right. So what I'm trying to get is like, I can't figure out how we as a body determine what's going to go on the warrant is coming from the select board without having a discussion about it. Which isn't a hearing per se, or an official hearing, but it is de facto a pre-hearing on the matter. I mean, and so we are coming to some kind of agreement that it should be on the warrant. Now for me, I can support having something on the warrant. And I'm just supporting having it on the warrant. I'm not saying anything about how I'm going to vote. But if that's being interpreted as support for me, then I can certainly see how that leads to other residents, maybe even members of the board to go, well, you said put it on the warrant. I mean, aren't you supporting it? Now you're not. That's so confusing to them and seemingly contradictory. I mean, so it seems to me that if the select board is going to put something on, then we need to have some kind of a discussion, whether that results in a vote or not, I guess there's a whole other thing. And just going back to my one-term history on the board, and I think for the special time meeting that we did in September, 2020, I mean, I came to the board and said, I wanted to have this article with me to create a study committee for using the advisory board because I felt that I needed to get the temperature of the board. I don't remember if we had a vote on it or not. Maybe people just kind of expressed general support and felt good about going ahead because I certainly wasn't going to put an article on the warrant only to have it come to a hearing and get it smacked down and at least smacked down by just the nature of its existence as opposed to having thought about it. I mean, I've been decided, well, that's not as good a day as we thought it was. So I guess what I'm getting at is that, I guess we do need to have a discussion, I mean, to get a temperature, and whether that results in a vote or not, I guess isn't as important, but I guess maybe we do have to have a vote if someone's going to move ahead confidently with putting it on the warrant, you know. Mr. Diggins, may I just for the, then Mr. Chairman, just to be crystal clear, if the board wants an article on to be from the entire board, it should take a vote to say, we want this article to be put on the warrant as from us, not from somebody else. All I'm trying to suggest is that, there are other avenues that board members may have, if they feel like there's something needs to be put on the warrant, but it should be appropriate to what the subject matter is. So if there's something that you wanna talk to the time manager about, great, but if it's something that really bears the, for the reasons that all of you have political wisdom that I don't possess or pretend to possess, would be confusing to folks with respect to placing something on the warrant that you don't support, but that's up to the wisdom of this body. Right, right. So I mean, I guess my feelings are that we can put something on it, even if we don't really support it. I mean, we just support the merit of it being on the warrant. I mean, and so my sense is, even if you don't support, let's take the clerk being an article of me. Even if you feel that you're going to not support it, you can at least support it existence on the warrant. You know, so I guess I'm finally taking votes on getting these things on the warrant, meaning without them being votes, being on the merits of the article, because it seems like that's what we're doing anyways. I mean, so I did not hear a second meaning for Mr. Helmets' motion. Mr. Helmets? Oh man, I guess I'm sorry. I'm sorry, yeah, I forgot. Mr. Helmets? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, just to reiterate, my understanding is that's what putting something on the warrant is. It's an agenda item only. The decision about the board's position, the board's on the recommended vote happens during the warrant article hearing and subsequent votes. So this is merely to me representing that we think there should be on the agenda. I have not made a motion for the clerk's position. I think that I would look to one of my other members to amend my motion if they want to do that. And if they don't, I'd be happy to let my motion stand the way it is. Because again, I think that consensus is important here. All right, all right, well, I'm not seeing a hand to make an amendment. So before I forget the motion in a second, again, let me just like get this one done. So on a motion for the select board to put an article regarding the changes to the time manager act made by Mr. Herd and second by Mrs. Mohan, Mr. Heim. Mr. Herd. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. Helmuth. Yes. Mrs. Mohan. Yeah. Mr. Diggins. Yes. It's unanimous vote. Yeah. So. One of these times we're gonna really screw you guys up and me and Eric are gonna say yes when each other's names are called out. You know, I do better here when I can like see you both in like different squares when I'm looking like anyways. So the clerk, do we have a motion discussion regarding the clerk article? The clerk, the article related to the clerk position. Okay. All right. So I will toss something in. So I am, I wanted to explore new growth in a very systematic way for lack of a better word. So I like for us to, as a town, try to figure out a strategic plan for new growth. We talk about how important it is a lot and realize I think the benefits of it. But I like for us to really look at what it takes to do it mean and then set about doing it. And I would imagine, we could probably ask town manager to create something like this. What I found as a big positive mean from setting up a study committee for the Youth and Young Adult Advisory Group was that it brought more people into the process. And that ended up as something different than I would have come up with my own. And I kind of like it.  I mean, we now have a real stake in it. I think this would be even bigger. And I think it would be let people know that this is something that we are really serious about and get their ideas about how to do it and get by. And because it would affect so many aspects of the town. And so I would like to bring that force mean as an article by the select board to get to request that the town mean create a study committee for a strategic plan for the new growth. I know it's a new idea. So maybe I will take advantage of the fact that we have a bit more time to get our article in. And I understand what you're coming from, Mr. Halmas, but yeah, I understand what you're coming from. Maybe it is better to hear to it, but no one really kind of knows what's on the warrant. I mean, I don't know the article, so it's not like anyone knows it. This was the one that came in late, although by virtue of this meeting they could, you know. Mr. Chair, I would recommend that we close the warrant when we say we close the warrant. There are ways to get things on the warrant under the, in that window. I just think that's best to avoid confusion on the part of the public. Yeah. Mr. Chairman, may I ask a question? Mr. Chairman. We put the agenda item as articles to include on the warrant and as evidence from a member if there's other things that the board wants to put on. You certainly can, but again, we do have the time of putting things on the special timing warrant. So if folks would like to have something more specific, that is an option that I just want folks to understand that they haven't. All right. All right. All right. Well, and then there are other ways to get this on me. So, well, all I can say is that if it does go to Tommy and I hope it gets a better reception than this. So, we will move on. I think we've cleared this one and we'll now move to item number 14, discussion and potential vote in person participation at select board meetings. So we'll start this one off by just explaining to me the collateral that I provided for this item. And so, I wanted to give you a sense with the hardcore scientific papers where the source of my thinking mean and mean. And for anyone, even a lay person, generally even the science types mean, we go to fit this discussion, mean you may read the abstract and you go to the bottom, read discussion and then you go back to the top for whatever you need to back up the conclusions in the discussion. But I just wanted to give you a sense of why it is that I approach the virus and its variants the way that I do. The more lay articles were more to let you know what the thinking was, what I saw the thinking as mean months ago, because usually I like to see how accurate a prediction is mean and sources that make accurate predictions or generally the ones that I will pay more attention to when they make other predictions mean and the nature one on the pipeline on possible vaccines was to say there is hope that we will get through this mean in a way that will protect this mean in a much better sense mean than we're getting from the current set of vaccines mean. So I want to go first because I just wanted to, I think the preponderance of those articles probably lead you to a different conclusion than where I'm gonna land and that is it's like people know at this point I think all they need to know and they're gonna take the risks that they wanna take mean and as long as the town mean isn't at risk mean for inviting people into flow spaces with not the best circulation be it a unmasked mean then I would say if they want to come so it's a life board meeting they have I'm not gonna objectively mean my only concerns generally before this was that I wasn't saying enough about how I felt about things but partly I didn't because I didn't want to become like the argument mean so that it would be something about the fact that I'm making an argument that makes people resistant to the information. So I kind of felt any people are intelligent here they can get the information they can make their own decisions mean and so that's where I stand on inviting people in and I'm gonna mask mean when I'm there because I'm masking pretty much everywhere I go when I am around other people, you know so I went first mean I opened it up. Mr. Hine, Mr. Hine, that's a new one, Mr. Heard. So I guess a question for attorney Hine do we need a motion if so whereas the chair's meeting and the chair's declared that he will allow the public and do we need a motion from the board? I think if you want, Mr. Chairman. Sure, please. The board or the chair, you're correct Mr. Heard that the chair regulates the sort of conductive meetings but if you guys wanna have an agreed upon set of parameters that's certainly fine for you guys to make a decision as a body but the chair does generally set the sort of parameters for how the meeting will operate. Yeah, well I make a motion that we allow the public into our meetings. I think realistically, I mean we're probably talking it could be a whole discussion about this and be much ado about nothing because most people, let's be honest are going to participate remotely if they can. I think everyone knows where I am on this. I didn't know where the discussion was gonna go so I'm gonna gear it up in different ways but I'm not gonna take this to a place it doesn't need to go because I think we are gonna come to a common answer here but again, I think if you look around our neighbors, they've done the same and I think as I've mentioned in the last meeting that it's time for us to allow somebody to do so and to do so safely. People have to be smart, if you're sick, don't come to our meetings, participate remotely just like we do as a board. We say that if we don't feel good we're not gonna come in and sit next to our colleagues but I think for some people it may be that I'm itching to get back in and participate in the process, I think they'll look forward to this. Again, I don't think it will be a ton of people that are gonna stamp it into our meetings like it used to be but I think it's a good first step and we can always change it if it becomes more than members are comfortable with and we are surprised by the attendance then we can address it at that time but at this point I do think that this is the right move for the board. Thank you, Mr. Hurd. Anyone else? Well, yeah, Mr. D'Horsy. Thank you, Mr. Chair. For discussing, I'll second Mr. Hurd's motion and you need to look forward to hearing what any other colleagues might have to say but I think there still has to be some discretion in the chair if we're getting guidance as we go forward in terms of, you know, whether we get it from our health department or in terms of in-person meetings, but I mean, I certainly will second the motion for discussion before the full board now. Thank you, Mr. Horsy and Mr. Helmuth. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I agree with Mr. D'Horsy that I'm happy to support the motion because I take this as an expression of the board's preference and I appreciate the chair is already open to that but my understanding is as Attorney Heim said that the discretion still lies with the chair and my expectation would be that on the advice of the health department director, the board of health or other authorities if the chair believes that the whole situation is changing, I would fully expect the chair to feel comfortable and empowered to make the decision that in fact is in his power to change that. So that would be just personally how I feel but given my lay understanding of the situation now, I'm comfortable with that. I might also choose to wear a mask. I would suggest that we make good use of the filtration units that are in the select board chambers on the theory of additive layers of protection and go from there. Thank you. Sure. So Mr. Heim, I mean, I had post-question me. There, no, we're not putting ourselves at any kind of increased risks meaning for legal action, right, by doing this. By taking it out. By allowing in-person more people in the chamber. No, I don't believe, if we're being, Mr. Chia, I think, oh, you do the candor with respect to this. I don't think that the board would create some risk if you're talking about a legal action against the town based on a theory of negligence or something like that or some sort of, I think if the town was told by the state that you can't convene meetings of more than 10 or something like that, that would be one thing, but it's not my understanding if there are any such restrictions in place at this time. Right. Just need to check, you know, because people will sue me over anything. I mean, so I just wanted to get a sense of me and as to how you felt about it. That is true, Mr. Chia, people will sue over just about anything and I appreciate it very much. Thank you. Sure, you know. So, well, in the two months that I have left, if things change, I guess I'm the most sensitive to this, but it's more so from a sense of not only protecting other people, but just trying to deal with this in the best way for, and this is going to sound kind of hokey, but for the species, because it's like each infection just creates potentially more variants.  Look, we started off, I mean, wrong on this, and that's the problem, and the way we handle it financially was wrong, too. I mean, instead of me stop freezing debt and just keeping people alive and by giving them the income that they needed, I mean, we essentially just said, hey, we'll give you money to pay your debts. I mean, we essentially just funneled the money up to the people who hold the debt, I mean, and so no wonder people just got really frustrated by the way things played out. And so we just went about it the wrong way and now we're kind of in a bad situation, and what we're doing isn't making a whole lot better. So that's where I'm coming from, but I feel that I shouldn't impose that mindset on people who feel really deprived by not having people in a room or not meeting as a group because I think the mental stress for people who feel that way outweighs me the potential benefits of staying relatively healthy. I mean, I have other concerns about long COVID, but that's me. So as I said, people at this point, no. I mean, but the risks are, I mean, and so I think because we open the doors, I mean, they don't have to walk in. We're giving them opportunities to do things remotely. So I have generally tried to be a chair that is listening to the desires of my colleagues, and I'm inclined to go with that now. And if any of you all express a desire to do things differently, I'll listen to that. And bring it back to discussion, and we'll just decide things that way. I'll just add one other thing. I did talk to Ms. Meyer and I know that there is, we need some issue with respect to access to our chambers, and I've been assured that we are working on that as quickly as we can. I think there's an issue with the glass door, and we need to figure out how to put a handle on it. So it's not like we're ignoring it. I mean, we are working on it, and I don't think we have a timeline as to when it will be adjusted so that there is full ADA access to the chamber, but we are working on that. So it's an emotion to bring people in. I'll let people in by Mr. DeCorsi, I'm sorry about Mr. Herd being in a second by Mr. DeCorsi. If there's no further discussion, we will have a vote. I will listen to the outcome of that vote, and because it is a chair's decision, it will be my decision, and I will have to live with the response to it because it is my call, so any further discussion? Oh, okay, Mr. Heine. Mr. Herd? Yes. Mr. DeCorsi? Yes. Mr. Helmut? Yes. Mrs. Mahan? Yes. Mr. Deagans? Yes. She's done it as a vote. All right, so let in, yeah, so, all right. So we now move on to second open forum. Anyone there? You can move along. Correspondence received. And so we have a save the Alewife letter to MassDEP, MWRA. I forget who that's by. I read it, but I forget who it's by. Oh, I know who it's by, by save the Alewife, you know. And we have 16. MassApp, Appleton, Pedestrian, Safe Week, Returns and Recommendations by Petro Sofia, and then we have 17. Recommendation Magliadesi Boulevard, or Way or Lane, you know, by the Public Memorial Committee, in number 18, in a foot of the Rocks Master Plan by Alan Tosti, I mean. So, Mr. Mahan? Move receipt. And motion received by Ms. Mahan. Second. And second by Mr. Herd. I'm Mr. Helmut. Thank you. Might I suggest a friendly amendment to the motion for referral to tech on the traffic letter and referral to the chair to consider the Malyasi Way matter in a future select board meeting? Yes. Yes. Ms. Mahan? That's fine. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, exactly. And I just want to add on the foot of the Rocks Master Plan, you know, that we may have maybe a forum, you know, for that at some point, perhaps in March or maybe in April or May, so that Ms. Tosti can present that more fully to the public, you know. So, although I think we'll hear a little bit about this when PG comes to talk with us. So, with a motion to receive with the sending of the Mass Ave. Appleton to TAC and the Malyasi Boulevard to discuss at a meeting, that motion by Mr. Ms. Mahan and a second by Mr. Herd, you know, Mr. Heim. Mr. Herd? Yes. Mr. Corsi? Yes. Mr. Helmut? Yes. Yes. Mr. Neyvitz? Yes. Mr. Neyvitz? Okay. All right. New business. Okay. I will start with Ms. Meyer. No, no business. Thank you, Lynn. And Mr. Heim? No, no business. Thank you, Mr. Sharp. Mr. Feeney? No business. Okay. Thank you. All right. Mr. Helmut? No, no business. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Corsi? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Briefly, two quick items. One, a couple of people that actually shoppers in the, the heights had reached out to me with an inquiry. About the, the no parking for the taxi stand in front of the MBTA. The bus. People there. And, and, you know, the question was, how often are we looking into whether they. It should remain or be taken away. And at some point, I would like to maybe fall up with the town manager and, and just talk about that process. But I did want to acknowledge the inquiry because on a few occasions, people have been shopping up there. To my knowledge anyway, that they're, they're uncapped using that those spots up at the heights. And it's two or three spots that potentially may be available. But I, I want to get more information before we move on. The second thing is this Friday, our town treasurer, Phyllis Marshall will be retiring. I wanted to wish her well on her retirement and thank her for her service to the town. Since you became treasurer in 2018. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Welcome. Mr. Herrick. Yes. Just wanted to let the board know that the. 2025. Committee had our first meeting last week at long last. It took some time to put the membership together, but we did meet with the five or six members that we had and decided that we have a lot of work to do. So we're going to meet. Very. Much more frequently coming up, but it's exciting to start talking about what the events are going to be. So at some point. We'll probably put an update to the board about. You know, what the efforts have been and what we're looking for. And because it will be certainly a team effort to get that done. Two short years. We're going to have a lot of work to do. We're going to have a lot of work to do. So we're going to meet. Very much more frequently coming up, but it's exciting to start talking about what the events are going to be. We're going to have a lot of work to do. We're going to have a lot of work to do. We're going to have two short years from now. But so that, that's in process. Then I wanted to, I'm not sure where the most appropriate place to put this up. I don't know if I ever brought up a traffic issue with the board, but. I was driving down by the down in school. We have a new drop off and pick up area and. It works very well out front, but over behind the school. The, the conditions are a little rough, but at Ryan cliff in Dow Ave. There was a bus that couldn't make the turn. And those two buses back to back because it was cars parked on both sides of Dow Ave at right where it meets Ryan cliff. And I didn't see any signage for preventing that. So whether it be through the town manager's office or. I don't know if something, this insignificance needs to be referred to tack. If somebody can just take a look at potentially having no parking on one side of the street. Right at the tip of Ryan cliff. I think it would prevent some major traffic jams. And the no parking could be limited to drop off and pick up times, but. I think in general.  But that's something that if. If the chair's discretion where that, that inquiry could go to, and I can give you some more information about that offline if needed. Yeah. So the only reason I'm going to suggest that we send it to tack is that I think we're dealing with something along. Ryan, Ryan. Cross is across the craft. Ryan cliff. Runs near the intersection of Appleton. Yeah. They're working on that. But. But they certainly, I think they could look at this and make a pretty quick decision on it. Yeah, I mean, maybe fit it into a larger context. I mean, but not necessarily slow it down, but, but, but if you just maybe like zip me a quick email or something, then I can send it being to. To Laura Swan mean and say, this is coming from, from this like board being in. And then she can either like. Tell me how it fits into what we're currently doing or, or, or we generate a new ticket for lack of a better work. You know, so. All right, we'll go. Thank you. Is behind. Sorry. I had. Take Mr. Helmut the head of me in my head. Maybe you already said no to things. The first one, and I don't. Unless the deputy town manager. Has something that he can appraise the board of tonight. I guess I'd put it in as a request, but I just want to on chestnut street. Where we had. A year ago in the spring. There was some issue with. An email that got sent and then it didn't get sent and it slowed the process down and then we got to the fall. And I believe my memory is for the traffic improvements. Where the allergen resident was killed. Down on chestnut street. And it was discussed by. The previous town manager. And perhaps the current town manager, but I definitely the previous town manager that. Improvements. Had been made some improvements that already had made and the rest because of the time delay would be made in the spring. So I don't expect Mr. Chairman. I'm not, if I'm through you to the town manager's office, just sort of a tickler reminder that are we all set for a go with the final traffic improvements that needed more time. That those will be able to happen in the spring. Mr. Feeney. Chair. Miss Mahan. I can definitively say that the design team. Is on track and we have secured via. A portion of the funding for the work. So. The design is progressing. I don't. Have at my fingertips. Exact dates or timelines for completion, but I do know that we are tracking well for this. Upcoming construction season. Okay. And if I could just. Make a request. To the deputy town manager that. I would like to make a request. I would like to make a request. Either by March 1st or March 31st. If the board could receive. Information. An email or correspondence received. Of what. Is left in the construction. And what are the anticipated dates that that work will start. Just so when people start asking us. We'll have the information. So. And thank you, Mr. Feeney. I had a feeling you kind of do. Yeah. I think the second thing is, and I'll have. A further discussion with the chair on this, but. I'm going to discuss with the chair about. Hopefully in one of the February agenda. Having. The. Save the ally's group. Kristen Anderson. And through her, Jean Benson, who I believe is also on our redevelopment board, but not in this capacity that way. I'm not sure if we're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if we're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if we're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. That they'd like to come in. And just discuss with the board and update. Jean Benson on behalf of. Save the ally's has filed some legislation. Which is currently in the state house. And they want to explain to the board and hopefully get our support. But I'm not sure if we're going to be able to do that. So that's not in the bond. Or supplemental bond. Dedicated for the ally.