No, I don't read what I write. That's that's the editor's problem. Okay, there's my library and I have a friend. Okay, we're all going with the library thing. I have a friend visiting with your friend Keith. Yeah. Okay, everyone, well, let's go ahead and kick off this wonderful session. And I really appreciate the collaboration with Bobby and also Jim Mason on putting together this series with Hyperledger around blockchain employment. And as everyone on the call should know is really, you know, blockchain jobs are super hot now. And there's a lot going on in the blockchain space as far as enterprise blockchain. And what we really want to do today is talk to you about, you know, all of the great companies that are hiring, especially in the Hyperledger community. And then also we want to talk about, you know, some of the resources that you can tap into, like training that you can get through Ledger Academy, training that you can get through Snapper or the Indian Blockchain Institute, and also, you know, look at what other resources are out there that Hyperledger has to offer that you can tap into and really get up to, you know, up to speed on this great skill set. And so what we're going to do is we're going to kick it off with today's event. And this is hosted by the Denver Meetup Group. And then, of course, we're going to have, you know, three more sessions here where Jim Mason's going to take the lead on the Boston Meetup for the next session. Then, of course, Bobby is going to take the lead for the Princeton Meetup on the third session. And then we're going to wrap it up with a nice job fair, which is going to be on August 26th, and really have a, you know, good wrap up to what we're doing here. So, Bobby put up the team here so you can see, you know, she's taking a good lead on this. She learns Ledger Academy, the Giving Chain, and she's also really taking a lead on setting up the BC employee website. So you can go out there and look at all the great resources and jobs. In addition to, you know, we're trying to get some additional feeds in the website. Jim Mason, I've talked about myself. And then Noresh Jane, and he's the co-founder of the Snapper Future Tech. And he's also a hyper ledger training partner. So, you know, we're going to have the pleasure of really running into a session here where I have three great guests that I'm going to kick off with. And I've got Eddie Garcia from Accenture. And he's going to talk about all what Accenture's doing in the enterprise blockchain space, as well as some other interesting projects they have going on. We have Daniela from Daniela Barbosa from Hyper Ledger. And she's going to be talking about all the great things that Hyper Ledger offers as far as what the job board is all about. And then also what Hyper Ledger members can post and what they are posting on the website. And then we're also going to have Kaleido. And we have Melissa from Kaleido, who's going to be presenting about what they're doing in the Hyper Ledger space. And the great thing that Kaleido is doing now is they're starting up the Hyper Ledger Firefly in the Hyper Ledger Labs.  So at that point, I think we're going to, you know, go on then I'm going to turn it over to Bobby. And then she's going to go through and talk about the blockchain environment. And then also some available jobs and training opportunities. And that's going to be discussed by Nuresh Jain. And then as we wrap up, then we're going to have a Q&A period where we can go in and talk about what's going on in the space and really how to engage with these great speakers that we're going to have on the panel, as well as tapping into the resources that Bobby set up on the BC Employees website. So at this point, Bobby, if you want to roll it over to the next slide, I'll kind of get into talking a little bit about our panel here. And then we'll get into the discussions. So I'm going to go ahead and first talk about Eddie. And Eddie is a skilled technology executive with Accenture. And he's been working on the blockchain team. And he's looking at blending strategic thinking and hands-on technical expertise in the blockchain space. And so he's done a lot of strategic partnerships, multimillion-dollar digital transformation programs globally for a lot of CTOs and CIOs at Fortune 500 companies. So Eddie, thanks for joining us. And then... Pleasure to be here, John. No problem. Then we have Daniella Barbosa and everybody on the call should know Daniella. And she really leads the global worldwide alliances for Hyperledger. And Daniella, feel free to weigh in more on that as far as your expertise. And she's also responsible really for maintaining all the great jobs that are posted with the Hyperledger website and really keeping that up to date and working with all the collaborative Hyperledger members. And then Melissa, she runs Human Resources for Kaleido. And they've got a number of new hires that they're looking to do in the space. And she could talk about opportunities down in the Raleigh-Duramera. And then also things that may be available as far as internships with Kaleido. And then also, she can talk a little bit about the blending of bringing some of the Ethereum platform over into the Hyperledger space. So at this point, I'm going to kick it off and just open it up to a few questions here. And the first question I'm going to ask the panel, and Eddie, I'm going to start with you, is what is Accenture's projection look like for new hires in 2021 and even out into 2022 around what you're doing in the blockchain space? Well, John, thanks so much for inviting me to this exciting event today. And really, I'd like to start with saying we've experienced a period of tremendous growth over the past couple of months as a result of the pandemic. And I think a lot of businesses realizing that they need to collaborate more with each other, right? That having a strong ecosystem is becoming something really important. And of course, blockchain is sort of at the center of that to enable data sharing between different companies. In terms of our team, we're roughly around a little bit over 100 people now globally. And that's across a number of various blockchain being one. We also have quantum and extended reality and that's part of our technology incubation groups at Accenture. And for the remainder of the year, we are looking at having at least 53 positions open specifically in blockchain around the world, out of which we have a good number of them in Asia and Europe, but also in the US and Canada. And those roles are spread across a number of different roles that we have that I'm happy to talk more about. Perfect. And then, Daniela, I'll go to you next. But a little bit different take on that is, you know, since you are in touch with all the Hyperledger members and really, you know, can see what's coming through the pipeline, what does it look like from your perspective of Hyperledger members looking for new hires this year and next? So I think it's a combination. And certainly, I'll speak on behalf of the members because the members do come to us very often and say, you know, we have these open positions and, you know, they want access to the top talent first. And, you know, through the Hyperledger community, they can have access to that. We have job boards. But I think overall, and I've been, you know, I've been here at Hyperledger. It's going to go on four years. And I've been, I've had a LinkedIn search as well as a search for other in other job boards for just the term Hyperledger to see which companies are hiring. And I continue to see more and more companies across the board, financial services, very much so, people hiring for identity specific, you know, use cases, more and more so. So like, and we'll talk a little bit about how we here at Hyperledger and our community help kind of educate the market and get everybody here prepared to go to go and do these jobs. So I think that we will continue seeing it.  I actually recently had a conversation with somebody who was a certified fabric administrator, there was an administrator, and they got a really good job doing a different protocol. And that other protocol, it was a public, you know, a public blockchain project, was looking for talent that had enterprise experience. And they knew that if somebody had already had experience with Hyperledger, that they probably had experience with enterprise use cases and blockchain. Now, I do not recommend that everybody go work for these blockchain companies, mind you. But I think it's important to understand that the skills that people are gaining with Hyperledger, those are skills that really extend beyond just Hyperledger jobs or blockchain jobs, because it's becoming core of enterprise blockchain. And I'm sure Eduardo and Sophia would probably echo that as they work with enterprise customers as well. So I think, you know, overall, what we're seeing is we're seeing a steady need for enterprise blockchain experiences. We are starting to see people ask for certified administrators. And, you know, with the certification program, we could talk about that a little bit later. And then we do see people hired from our community, whether it's our special interest groups or our working groups or, you know, even these meetup communities where people show up in person. I know it was a great way to recruit talent, right? Many of the companies would go to these meetups and they would meet one another and they would recruit the people that were working with the technology that were working in the community to go work for them. You know, it's a little bit harder virtually, but I think that, you know, the work that you, John and Bobby and the rest of the meetup community has done has facilitated that. And we hope that soon we'll also get back in person to help with those recruiting effort. And we'll talk, you know, I'm happy to talk a little bit about kind of how we also work with academics. We're seeing more and more academic programs have hyper ledger in, you know, enterprise blockchain or permission blockchain courses. And that just builds the talent, right, the next talent that's coming into these organizations. So yeah, more than happy to share additional things on that front. Yeah. And I'll echo exactly what you're saying there, Danielle, is I do a lot of work with the university system in Colorado. And definitely hyper ledger is always a part of the core curriculum for any student coming up learning blockchain. So I would say definitely the university system is very much on board with training hyper ledger. And then also the special interest groups that you mentioned are really a wealth of talent. And, you know, when you engage with any one of the special interest groups, let's just say like you're in one with identity, you talked about identity management, you know, that's really going to be your top talent that's actively engaged in the community, and really talking about, you know, improvements to any project that they're working on within the special interest group. So that's great advice. And I really think that, like you say, there's a lot of blockchain enterprise use cases, public or private, where they really want that hyper ledger skill set to be able to say, yeah, you understand high enterprise blockchain. And we want to, you know, have you lead our project for our enterprise, which is great. Okay, perfect. And then let's go to Melissa also. And so Melissa, maybe you can talk a little bit about what you're doing in Raleigh Durham. And then also maybe even mention what you're looking at as far as some internships or other open positions that you're looking for. Sure, sure. Thank you, John. Yeah, thanks, everybody.  So, yeah, Kaleido, we are located here in Raleigh, North Carolina in downtown Raleigh. So I have a little picture of it behind me. It's actually a lot different looking. We have a lot of cranes going up. So lots of buildings being built, lots of larger organizations setting up ground here as well. So super exciting time for the area. But yeah, for us, we started out as part of consensus. And then they have like a VC studio type model. And so the goal is you don't stay a part of consensus forever that you graduate. And so we graduated from consensus last year in April of 2020. So today we're at about 25 people. And, you know, looking to double here in the next year or even quadruple at that point. So super exciting times for us. A lot going on in the enterprise blockchain space, as you've all mentioned. And yeah, always love to, you know, hashtag I'm a LinkedIn post hyper ledger. Oh, whatever it takes to get someone's attention. Yeah, but we're super excited about, you know, just the growth that's happening in that in the space. It's really exciting times. Yeah, and that's perfect. And I'll say another great thing is, you know, I'm always excited when there's new hyper ledger projects coming online. And so Kaleido has been instrumental in hyper ledger firefly. And then looking forward to, you know, continuing to help them, we're going to host a meet up around firefly coming up here just because you know, anytime there's a new labs project, we want to get the word out. So thanks for joining us. Melissa really appreciate it. Okay, and then the other one is talking about the skills for new hires. And you know, I know Accenture has done a lot around hyper ledger fabric, digital twins and CVDC implementations. So Eddie, would you like to kind of talk about kind of the core skill sets that you're looking for in these new hires that you're looking to bring on? Yeah, I'm happy to do so. And actually, I'd like to provide a little bit of the industry context, just to explain, you know, why are we looking for, you know, these specific skill sets and piggyback of what was said earlier. So there's three key areas that we're focusing on, horse Accenture being mostly focused in the enterprise space. So certainly the private kind of permission area of blockchain, not so much the public space. But it's really around three areas. It's digital identity, it's supply chain and also financial infrastructure. And as I was mentioning earlier, a lot of the growth is driven post pandemic because of the need of different businesses to collaborate with each other. I think many of us saw, you know, what happened during the pandemic to supply chains and the disruption that the pandemic brought there and the need really to drive, you know, traceability and other types of use cases in that space. So that is sort of the context behind, you know, the demand that we see in supply chain. In the digital identity space, certainly a lot of growth there, there had been a number of initiatives already going on pre pandemic, with different organizations at a global level, like the World Economic Forum and so on. But I think, you know, as a result of the pandemic, we're seeing a lot of demand for, you know, digital identity and these different passport solutions and credentialing and verification and so on. So that's definitely another trend there. And then when it comes to financial infrastructure, that being one of the areas that has been more mature, if you will, in terms of growth, certainly a lot of activity prior to the pandemic. And through and after the pandemic, we're seeing a lot of activity around CDC, which is central bank digital currency, as well as other sort of core financial infrastructure use cases that are being driven in the enterprise space. So that's sort of the industry context. And then in terms of what we're looking for, we do have a number of roles open. And there's some roles that are a little bit more sales and solution oriented. There are some roles that are more around delivery. So being on, you know, engagements that of course are transformative in nature, and having a role there, whether it be sort of as a functional person trying to figure out what the use cases, what the requirements are, and sort of mapping the solutions to that, and translating ultimately what the client wants into something that is actionable. There's also more technical roles that are also delivery oriented in where we're looking for people with a software engineering background or a technical architecture background. And of course, preferably experienced in one enterprise blockchain platform. Obviously Hyperledger has many, so that would be preferable as well. And then we also have these, what we call offering roles, which are more around the development of solutions, products, things of course that Accenture is doing to help differentiate ourselves in the market. So we do have a number of roles that are focused on a specific area, like it could be, for example, supply chain, or it could be digital identity, and it could be around developing offerings and solutions around that space. So that's a little bit of the context, and I'm happy to dive deeper into any area, John, if you'd like. Yeah, I think definitely we're going to open this up for Q&A when we continue, Eduardo, but right now I'm going to just shift over to Daniela and just see what she thinks as far as having more of an overarching view of the Hyperledger members. And I think Eddie really focused on a lot of the things that Accenture is doing in the space, and maybe you can highlight anything that you're seeing that is in line with what Eddie was talking about, or even new things that the members are looking for as far as skills. Yeah, I echo Eduardo's point on, I always think about how I would love to be a 20-year-old analyst at the banks right now, financial analyst. I worked at Dow Jones for 17 years, so my background is in financial services, but I think anything around tokenization, cross-border payments, anyone that has experience in financial services, if they can take some time to understand how blockchain is enabling a new way of financial services to operate, would be extremely, extremely valuable, and the same thing with identity. And if you look at the job postings that are currently on the Hyperledger job board, which is our members get to post jobs that are available, there's jobs really across the board. We see people, they're not necessarily looking for blockchain engineers sometimes, but they're looking, for example, for security development ops people. Because the bottom line is you don't just, hey, I have a blockchain solution and all I need is blockchain developers. That's not the case. These are enterprise systems. They need to integrate. They need to interoperate with other systems within enterprises and across different networks. And so people need to have some core skills around security, around testing. These things before they go into production have to be tested. If you're a QA expert, for example, and you've been doing QA testing even in financial services or in healthcare, if you know regulatory requirements in some of these industries from, obviously, if you have been working in the federal sector, if you have been working in financial services once again or healthcare, these are all telecom. These are all skills that you can take and then apply them to blockchain related projects or work. So usually it's myself or our team approve jobs. They have to be blockchain related jobs. But very often these are firms that need talent who understand the principles of blockchain or want to understand but are also experts in other elements. So one of the things I'd love for the audience to take away is many of you are in different stages of your career. Some of you maybe are just out of college or just about to leave college or get a master's program. Some of you have been in the enterprise space for a long, long time. There is opportunities for everyone that wants to take that leap into understanding how decentralized technologies is going to really affect cross functions. So we see senior positions. We continue seeing positions right now on the Hyperledger job board. Obviously Accenture has a link to their 80, what is it, Eduardo, 80 plus positions? 60, no, 53. But there's a principal member of the technical staff for Oracle. Consensus is hiring, project leads and project engineering and performance. So there's a lot of roles in all different skill sets that are available. And those are just the ones that our members decide to post on Hyperledger because they want to access the top talent that people can do. So if you think about what you want to do or what skill sets you currently have that you want to apply to your future career, that's the best way to approach it. Don't try to be like, I have to start a blank slate and become a blockchain developer because that's not what the industry is really looking for. They're looking for people who have the skill sets that can be applied to these projects. And John, if I may, I'd like to just add to what Daniela was saying. I think another thought here is to think about what type of role do you want to have? Do you want to be in a delivery role where you are working with a client and building something for a client? Or are you more interested in building a product or a solution that's more internally facing? Or are you more interested in sales? I think having an understanding of what path you want to take definitely helps because the skillsets are, there's definitely some core skills like what Daniela mentioned, but there's also some additional skills depending on what path you want to take, if that makes sense. Yeah, that makes perfect sense, Eddie. And I would say that echoes what Daniela and you are talking about is you don't have to be a blockchain, hyperledger fabric core developer to have a role in the blockchain space. And having these other adjacent skills that Daniela mentioned is super helpful. And then also, there's going to be other needs for maybe business analysts or other types of roles that are going to be critical to any company like Accenture being able to fulfill on the client needs. So it makes perfect sense to me and I think it should make perfect sense to the audience as well. So also Melissa, I want to get your take on what Kaleido is looking for as far as skill set and where do you see opportunities within the enterprise blockchain space as far as anyone joining the call today that would like a job with a great company like Kaleido? Yes, thank you. A lot of what Daniela said, I mean, we're looking for senior engineers right now, you know, we're still pretty small and growing. So we really need that senior skill set. And, you know, people having hyperledger and fabric and those kinds of backgrounds, that's helpful, but it's not I'm really focused on the the languages that they have and their skill set. And that definitely makes it a differentiator for us. But people, you know, there's just not a lot of folks, especially in the area that would have those skill sets just yet, but have that strong interest in wanting to work in blockchain. So we really focus on, you know, for the senior engineer like Golang, no JS, Java. And then also when I first started at Kaleido, a little over or almost three years ago, we had it differentiated with full stack and front end and back end. And then kind of as we've grown, we've really just more focused on having full stack engineers as well, instead of just, you know, front end and back end. So we've found that full stack works a lot better for us. But yeah, just the senior people. Yeah, if I can echo what Melissa was saying too, from a technical standpoint, definitely full stack engineers, you know, definitely have all the skills, right, from what it what it takes to do something like this. And then, of course, having experience in at least one platform definitely helps differentiate, right, when it comes to evaluating different candidates and so on. And that's from a software engineering background. Of course, there's also a strong need for technical architects as well. And just echoing what was said earlier, right, even if you're building something, you still need to integrate it with the rest of the clients enterprise systems. So definitely having a, you know, a technical architect type of background is also a nice differentiator and also a career path all on its own. So I just wanted to add that as well. Yeah, that's great, Eddie. Thanks for bringing that in. And Melissa, I appreciate you kind of going over some of the core programming languages that are relevant to, you know, full stack developers in the blockchain space. So next question I'm going to have for you is around kind of the internship or mentorship type opportunities. And we may have people on the call, you know, that are great, full stack developers or they may be, you know, let's say newly graduated students looking for opportunities. So maybe, Eddie, I'll start with you and just kind of talk about what Accenture offers for kind of onboarding, I'm going to say the newly graduated students or people that maybe have a background in software development, but not specifically in blockchain and how they would get engaged with Accenture. Certainly, John. And there's actually two big programs that I want to talk about today. And the good news is that when we talk about this, it's all at a global scale. So I'm not sure exactly where people are joining from today, but certainly with Accenture, there's global opportunity. So that makes it even more exciting. The first thing I want to talk about is our summer program, summer analyst program. So we do have a pretty mature, well established program for new graduates that are looking for a summer internship. And that program is actually currently underway. And of course, it's seasonal. And again, at a global scale. So I'll post some links on the chat in case anybody's interested and they want to look at what type of roles are available. There's a variety of different paths in that summer analyst program. There's a more technical path. There's a more sort of management consulting path. There's corporate functions. I mean, there's a number of areas. And it of course gives people an opportunity to be involved with our team and of course do amazing work in the blockchain space. That's our summer analyst program. We also have a what's called a skills skills to succeed program, which is part of our corporate citizenship efforts at Accenture. And this is really about giving people opportunities, for example, apprenticeship opportunities or people who are looking to reskill, right? There's been a lot of changes in the job market as a result of the pandemic. And then of course, as technology becomes more mature, there's a continuous shift of skills that happen. So Accenture wants to make sure that we are having an opportunity to help people sort of gain new skills that are going to help them be competitive as the job market evolves. And how we do that is through a number of partnerships with nonprofit organizations that we work with, like for example, Girls Who Code or America on Tech, there's a number of organizations out there that we partner with. And then through them, we have opportunities to then allow people to come in and work on projects, develop new skills, and really have that full experience that Accenture brings to the table. And I'm happy to share some links there if anybody's interested and you want to learn more about that. Yeah, that's perfect, Eddie. And I think that is a lot of wonderful resources there. And I think that this session is really about getting people engaged. So whatever you can share via the chat and we can do a follow up with, that'd be great. And then, Daniella, you have a great perspective both from, I know Hyperledger has had some internal internships before, and then also with the members. So maybe you can talk about both of those. That'd be great. Yeah, so I think from a member perspective, programs like Eduardo talked about where they have consistent internships that they offer. We have Hyperledger mentorship program, and I'll post a link on there. And I'm sure Bobby and the rest of the team will post it if it's not already on the website. We have an annual mentorship or internship program that we fund, and it's a great program because what we're trying to do is we're trying to match requirements within the project, so the Hyperledger projects themselves. So let's say somebody that is working a maintainer and a contributor to Hyperledger Cactus, and they have a specific thing that they want to build out for Cactus. And what they do is they put together an application basically for being a mentor for a development project. This is important because it is hard to become an open source developer. There is no doubt about it. So as these people are coming in, they're out of college or just in the process of finishing up, they want to learn how do they participate? How do they contribute to open source projects? They get a mentor.  You get an assigned mentor and a mentee, and they actually create code or documentation. And Bobby, maybe you can talk a little bit about, I know that you have an internship right now or mentorship program that you're sponsoring as a mentor. And it's really important because it's hands on and it's important for us. And the reason we fund this is because, A, it gets work done, right? It gets actual code and projects. Some of them are really way out of here. So we have this year, we have some projects around climate action. So the Climate Action Special Interest Group put together a request for mentorship and they now have somebody writing code for a specific thing coming out of a client. So Bobby, I'll pass it over to you because I know you've been very involved in the hyperledger mentorship program to talk a little bit about what you've been doing, what you're seeing and how folks on the line might be participating in next year's program, which will open up in the spring, I guess, in the spring of next year. Well, thank you, Danielle. And thank you for coming. Well, for me, the Learning Materials Working Group is a volunteer working group that hyperledger supports and we meet every two weeks. The first goal we have is to try to educate newcomers on how to get involved in the community and what's going on in the community. And through that, through the meetups in 2019, we did a social impact project with the hyperledger sawtooth blockchain to just track local charity giving models so that it was decentralized and it was a very successful project, but it was only a proof of concept, meaning that the blockchain we spun up as soon as the project was over and the computer shut down, so did the project. So the people at hyperledger liked the idea and we applied it to the mentorship program. And now this summer, I have a mentee. We have teams forming. There'll be information at the end of the presentation if you want to get involved because we're just starting. And we're going to do that giving chain project again, this time, hopefully, building it out so that it will be available for disaster relief and organizations like the Red Cross or whoever may need an infrastructure for charity giving or disaster relief. So it was really beneficial and I know the learning materials working group also started another mentorship on just mapping out learning opportunities for blockchain. So again, the special interest groups and the working groups, they look at the technology come up with sector related great ideas and then the hyperledger folks support us and let us build it out. So it's a wonderful mentorship program. Yeah, that's perfect, Bobby. You've been involved in a lot of those great internships for a number of years now. And if you could maybe post about the giving chain in the chat, that'd be wonderful as well. Oh, I have a slide. Okay, great. I'll let you do the whole thing once we wrap up here. Okay, great. And then Melissa, maybe you want to talk a little bit about what's going on in Raleigh Durham and what Kaleido is doing? Yes. So we have internships as well. So I don't have any posted right now, but few of the folks that we've hired for our internships, they were just people that reached out to me and they had a very interesting background and, you know, willingness to learn blockchain and to jump in at a startup.  So we try to have it, you know, where they do have like a kind of a planned steps and everything, but as a startup, things can change. It looks like someone came off mute. Okay, yeah, I was like, he was excited about your great opportunity. Yes, exactly.  And then usually, you know, the goal for us is really to, to eventually, you know, hire our interns. So now we've got, you know, a developer that's maybe been working with us over the summer, maybe two summers or their summer and then, you know, into the fall and then they graduate that fall and then, you know, they've got their full time job with us. So we also do, you know, business interns as well. So we've got just a lot of roles, you know, where we just need help on the marketing side for just, you know, in the business area for us too. So we're, we do hire those roles. I don't typically post them just because I'm out and about in the community, you know, used to be able to do meetups in person, but now, you know, the schools have done a lot of good virtual events. And right here in Raleigh and Durham, we have, you know, NC State, Duke, UNC Chapel Hill. So we've got a lot of schools right here around us with some great computer science schools. Yeah. And if they want to join in on Hyperledger with the Firefly Project, that'd be another good way to engage with the Kaleido community and really, you know, get to know the people that are involved in the project. Exactly. Yeah. We're super excited about that, as you know. Yeah. No, and we're super excited to, you know, get the word out about it.  Yes, exactly. Okay, I'm going to go into my final question here. And then Bobby, if it's okay with you, I'll open it up for just a couple of Q&A and then we'll segue into your portion of the presentation. Does that work? Okay, great. So let's talk about contact information. And I think Eddie, you've done a great job of posting a lot of stuff in the chat and I really appreciate it. Is there any specific person or email or any other thing that you would recommend that people look toward when they want to reach out to Accenture around the available blockchain jobs? Thanks. So yeah, definitely all the links I shared would have kind of the latest and greatest information. If anybody, you know, wants to reach out to me through LinkedIn as well, you know, that's another channel. But really everything that we have is posted on those links. So definitely look out for new roles opening up. And I'm happy to, you know, connect with anybody offline as well. Perfect. And then Daniela, maybe, you know, I go back to you have kind of two perspectives here is one is getting involved with the Hyperledger internship. And then also let's say that someone is interested in another Hyperledger member that's maybe hiring. What advice would you have for them to, you know, get engaged and figure out the right contact? Sure. So I posted our job board, which once again is our members come to us and they say we're looking for talent. Can you help advertise these open positions? And what we do with that is we put it into, for example, our newsletter. It goes out to about 30,000 subscribers. And we'll include that. We'll use social media. So whether Twitter or LinkedIn to post these job openings for our members. So if any of you on the phone are member companies, please do reach out and submit your positions because we'd love to help promote them as well. You know, as I started off the talk today or my comments today, really it's people like yourselves, John, Bobby and others here on the phone who are committed to contributing to the community. We encourage people who are chairs of our SIGs or contributors to different working groups or SIGs to advertise that also in LinkedIn. And if you feel uncomfortable or you don't know how, reach out to us and you can just send info at hyperledger.org or contact David Boswell who's on the phone here as well as myself and say, you know, I've been doing this for Hyperledger. How do I advertise that in my LinkedIn profile so that I can get, you know, further, further notification that I'm working with the project? And we're happy to do that. There's some certifications. I put some of the training and certifications. Obviously, if you finish those courses, you get a certificate or you get a badge that you can put on your LinkedIn account. But ultimately, if you are contributing and you're participating, we can help you on how do you tell your future employer that you're hiring and if you are, that you're looking for a job and if you're hiring, how do you tell your future employee that you would like to access them? So I'll go ahead and put my email address on here. And anybody who wants to reach out and, you know, have a chat about how do I go about being more up in front, you know, on the hyperledger community, we can help you with that. We're nothing without you all. So we want to make sure that everybody's successful. Yeah, that's wonderful, Daniel. And I know that there's been some exploration about the badges, which really kind of goes to that whole, you know, certification and engagement in the community.  Then also, I'd like to get Melissa's take on this. And just, you know, I know that you're responsible for human resources at Kaleido. But I'm sure everyone would love to have your contact information and or, you know, tell them how they can get engaged with Kaleido if they're interested in joining the team. Exactly. Yes. I'm out there on LinkedIn, Melissa Crosby. I'll put my email in here, Melissa.Crosby at Kaleido.io. So and if you start thinking, how do you spell Kaleido, just think about kaleidoscope. So then you'll get it. But we have, yeah, Twitter, Instagram, if you want to see just some, some employee things that we've done, you know, we tried to, since we are a smaller team, we're able to kind of get out and about. And just for the summer here, we just went to a local lake and we have paddleboards and just did some fun things, you know, with everyone's families and we'll do holiday parties once we can do that again. And right now with COVID, you know, we're coming back into the office just two days a week. And then kind of as numbers continue to climb, you know, we'll look how that continues to go. So but yeah, it's a fun, fun team. And I'll put my email in here too for you. Perfect. Thank you. Okay, so let's just take a couple of minutes here for Q&A. And then if anyone has a desire to follow up with any of our panelists today, they've already put their contact information in there. And, you know, there are a wealth of resource and opportunity, if you're interested in engaging. So if you want to do that, I don't know, maybe take yourself off of mute and just ask the question and then we'll have the panelists address it. And if it's for an individual panelist, just highlight that when you come off mute. And if we don't have any questions, then I'm glad to turn it over to Bobby, because I know she has a full agenda. And I've probably taken more time away from her agenda than I should. So let's just go ahead and segue at this point to Bobby. And she can take it away from here. Great. Thank you. And thank you, John, for hosting today. We really appreciate all the work you've done to get this off the ground and all the work you do for Hyperledger for the Meetups, just posting out the software and all the stuff you do. So I'm Bobby Mascara and I'm the chair or co-chair with Alfonso, who's also on the call of the Learning Materials Working Group.  One job that nobody mentioned that's one of my new favorites is community builder, because blockchains are based on communities. And if you don't have a strong community, you don't have a blockchain. So social butterflies like me have great jobs as community builders. So that's something that I personally enjoy myself. So I'm going to get started with a little bit about what blockchain environment is and how we got here. So the first thing is what is blockchain? So everybody basically knows it's a peer-to-peer system and you now direct or transact directly with the person instead of using intermediaries. And I'm going to do this quick because, again, if there are no transactions, there are no blockchains. They're basically ledgers that keep track just like any other accounting ledger or book of records doesn't have to be transactional based, but it tends to in a lot of the blockchains have transactional basis for their entries. So the difference between the older type accounting systems and this new accounting system is it's decentralized. So there's not one person in charge of it. Everyone agrees to what's in this ledger. And once that's agreed upon, thanks to math and cryptography, it can't be changed. So all of the sudden, blockchain systems have this trust that never was around in business before because you don't have to rely on one person's version of something. You can rely on the truth because you know it's the truth because everybody agreed it was the truth when it was put into the blockchain. So again, the big difference between blockchain models and the old models is there's not one CEO. There's not one president. There's not one person in charge. Decisions are made decentralized and by group consensus. So consensus does drive these new models and it gives you trust. So how did we get here? How is this new technology new? Like where did it come from? Was it under a rock and somebody picked a rock up and said, oh, look, I have new technology. Actually, it was around for really pieces were around for a really long time. So first piece was we have to communicate with each other and send files. So back in the 70s, DARPA, which is the defense agency, decided that they wanted to try to send information from one place to another. And they did it with a test at UCLA and I guess at Syracuse, I'm not sure what that college is. I should have looked at the thing. It was another California college. And they actually were successful in sending it. And the way they sent it was through this TCIP protocol. And that has become the basis for the internet today. That protocol, along with hyperlinked documents, which becomes HTTP, which is how we send all our internet and web documents, basically became the World Wide Web. And the birth of the World Wide Web is similar to the birth of blockchain right now. It's often been compared because there's all this new technology and all these companies wanting to capitalize on it. But nobody really knows really where we're going and how we're going to get there. So a lot of people are worried about the dot com bubble coming back. And that was just this new internet technology. Everybody wanted to start a business, but nobody really knew what that business should look like. So the characteristics was a lot of new applications came out. The first one was email. All of the information on the web at this point was sent to you. It was pushed to you by an administrator. And it was all managed by a central authority. It was pushed to the users. And then again, email was the first killer app for this. And basically what email did was the first time we transferred information electronically. Before that, if you wanted to mail something, you had to go to UPS or FedEx or the United States Post Office to get your documents or a courier to get them transferred to where you need to be. This technology, now you didn't need to do that. And when this first came out, people didn't realize how email was going to become such a part of our lives. When it first came out, people were like, oh, email, maybe I'll do it, maybe I won't. Now I don't think anybody can live without having an email somehow in their life. Also, this is the key because now all of a sudden computer connections in households started to become very important. Technology started to advance so no longer like the floppy disks, mediums that could hold terabytes of information. You had internet speeds that were just crazy fast compared to what, I mean, I don't know if anybody remembers America Online Connecting with that horrible sound that you had to listen to for the first few seconds. I still hear that in my sleep sometimes. But again, all these companies were attempting to cash in on this new technology. The first one that came up with an actual business case was Netscape, and that was the first commercial web browser. So that was finally now everybody can use this new technology. And then the information changed with that, and we started to move towards the internet of information where it was going to be exchanged back and forth. And they called this phase web 2. And this was new forms came out where not only were you able to read information, but you were able to give information back into the systems. Again, content was still from administrators and there was still a central authority. That was a duke. But now we were able to share our information back. And boy, did we give our information away at a frenzied pace. It was like we couldn't give it away quick enough. We didn't care what they were doing with it, how it was being used, or that it was our information actually not theirs. And it became very siloed and very monetized by other people. And it's still our information. So America Online, Facebook, Google, Wikipedia, you know, Wikipedia was interesting. It was the first time you could build a dictionary. Everyone could put in their definition and decide what it should be. And that's like kind of like a precursor of what's happening today. So all of these companies now were born and taking our, or they weren't taking it. We were just giving it to them. So a hint of things to come. We're going to talk about two use cases with music sharing. The first one was BitTorrent. So BitTorrent went out there and they got music to share. And everybody, they connected people's computers that had music files. And what they did was they broke them into little packets so that when somebody called up, used the protocol, you have to download the protocol, when you use the protocol to find a song, it would build the song for you and deliver it to you. Another use case was Napster. Now what Napster did was they, as a central authority, indexed all the music that was stored on everybody's computer and that you would go to the index to find the file. Well, obviously musicians were like, hold it. Wait a minute. This is our music. And we're not giving it away to you. We need this stuff shut down. So the legal community agreed with them and went to these people and said, turn yourselves off. This is not legal. This is not fair. Well, with Napster, it was easy. They just took the index down and no one could find anything when they were using the protocol. But they never could turn off BitTorrent because it wasn't centralized anywhere. It was stored on everybody's computer. And this is like the first look at what a decentralized system can be. Granted, there was no guarantee any music file you got was the music file you wanted. It could be you could ask for one song and get another song or get a different version of the song. So there was no reliability in the system. But it couldn't be turned down either. Both of these companies are still working today. There's links to their websites with a different business model, but they still both run and music share fairly. So that's kind of where we're moving towards web three now, which is where we're entering. And this is interesting because just like back when we were talking about sharing information in email and how I don't know if we're going to do that, now we're at the same turning point but with value. We have now figured out how the internet can transfer value safely. Again, safely is a key word. We've always been able to transfer value on the internet. It just wasn't accurate or safe or reliable or the systems were centralized with American Express or MasterCard. So some of the characteristics of this is the communities involved in building these websites or these communities. And the systems are intelligent. They can run blockchain technologies such as smart contracts. They can learn patterns and make predictions based on those patterns now. And artificial intelligence is just a whole new aspect of how that information can be applied and what we're trying to do I guess with web three is we realize that our information is ours and it shouldn't be siloed and owned by other people. It should be owned by us. And so we're trying to break the silos with new internet identification models, the trust triangle where there's verifiers and holders of assetations and how they're going to transit. There's so many new business models coming out from this. So basically just clarify something very quickly. Blockchain is not Bitcoin. Bitcoins are the product of the Bitcoin network. It's a digital currency and you can only exchange Bitcoin on the Bitcoin network. It was a decentralized system created by an unknown gentleman named Satake Nagamoth in a white paper in 2009. So if anybody says they're 13 years blockchain experience, they don't. They could only have 12 because that's how new this technology is. So it's created Bitcoin and Ripple from the same IP address. Continue. So it's a decentralized payment system and no coincidence it came out right around the bank failures and when they needed to be bailed out by governments. So its purpose was to be a currency, a medium for exchange, a store of value over time and accepted is a keyword, measure of worth. So right now we have fiat currency and that's issued from the government. It's not backed by any commodity other than the government say so. It only has value because the citizens of that government or the citizens of that country believe it has value. And apart from governments, central authorities or central banks control your money like they tell you what you have like credit cards or your bank account. They all hold and control your money for you. Cryptocurrencies again, this is a new way to look at that. Bitcoin is a public blockchain where you need a Bitcoin wallet, which is a downloadable thing on your phone. And with that wallet, you can send and receive Bitcoin. You own it and it can be proved by math. That's basically instead of the government saying it has value, you can prove that it has value through blockchain networks, cryptography and public and private key pairs, which is not something we're going to get into. But we'll offer classes at the end for you to take if you want to learn more.  But you are now responsible for it as opposed to a central figure. So this is what we call the decentralized future. Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are like the first killer app for this new Web 3, but there's going to be much more. There's different types of blockchains, private blockchains like Hyperledger permission their users so they don't really have a cryptocurrency running on it. They can exchange value through tokenized tokenization, but they don't actually run a cryptocurrency because consensus is derived from the permissioning process rather than the consensus mining process. And again, blockchain can now transfer anything. It just doesn't have to be the value. It can be artwork. It can be moments in time in NFTs now. There's all types of new business models that are coming out. So you have Bitcoin and there's also other public blockchains like Ethereum. Ethereum is not only a crypto asset as if you call Bitcoin can transfer value like a calculator. Ethereum can do stuff like a computer. So Bitcoin can only transfer Bitcoin back and forth and that's the purpose of it where Ethereum is not only a crypto asset but a crypto commodity because it can make blockchains that can talk to each other and add value through tokenization. So that even takes it a step further. It's a connected virtual machine where you can use the computing power. Get your head around that for a few minutes and the ideas can be endless and that's why consensus is so vital to the growth of blockchain because their incubators like Kaleido and other companies have to start somewhere and that's where they're like born out of these great ideas. So new business cases will be coming up. Hopefully it won't be a dot-con bubble that will burst but something reliable that we can work on in the future and that's basically a summary of what blockchain is. I don't know if Narish is on the call right now. Yes he is. So I'm going to turn it over to Narish who's going to talk about actual like the blockchain's jobs and the skills needed for those jobs. So the Indian blockchain industry is teaming up with BC Employee which again you can go to our website after this session. We're going to have three other sessions after this. The website is www.bcemployee. If you click on the last tab for training you can go right into the Indian Blockchain Institute's learning management system where you can sign up for great classes or just read about the classes but we do suggest you get your name in that learning management system to get notifications of new opportunities for learning. So I am going to be quiet for a while and I'm going to let Narish take over. Thank you Bobby. It was a wonderful presentation. You tried to explain blockchain in simple words. So good morning, good afternoon, good evening everyone. So right now for me it's a little early. It's 5am in India here. So Bobby would you mind sharing the presentation? I'm not able to see it. Bobby you're on mute. Okay I can see it now. So I think you ran through the presentation without stupidity but you covered it very well. Alright so initially I'll talk about blockchain adoption. What's really happening in this space? It's as per Gartner or IDC and many other reports. Blockchain is at an interaction point. Any new technology goes through a hype cycle. First it goes up. There's a lot of buzz word, a lot of research. Then it starts coming down and it starts getting matured and 2021, these two years in fact 21. So we are actually at the plateau of this curve and here onwards it's going to start maturing. So adoption is happening at a very fast rate and as Bobby started talking about blockchain is an ecosystem play where you need a big infrastructure because no company, no business can work independently and for that infrastructure governments across all over the world have started making strategy. It started implementing creating policy and starting creating infrastructure. So governments across in India recently I just read the news 21 state legislative pass some policy for blockchain. China has adopted and came up with their policy about two years back and Europe also has came out their blockchain strategy about a year back and many many other countries have come out with their strategy and the maximum adoption is happening in what areas? Let me talk about some use cases. So finance or fintech is the number one space where maximum adoption is happening in the first where adoption has started happening and tokenization related to that tokenization is a major, major thing which is happening, which is changing the scenario completely. So there are two kinds of blockchain network. One is blockchain public public blockchain network second is private or permission blockchain network permission blockchain network is mainly for enterprise and public is mainly for tokenization and tokenization changing the scenario across fintech industry and enterprises where trade finance supply chain and all of that is making big difference. Now let's understand the job scenario what is there globally because as blockchain blockchain adoption has started increasing at a very fast rate it has also started opening job market. As for the LinkedIn report in 2020 blockchain has been ranked on the top hard skills. It's a top hard skill as for them and the demand is increasing year by year up to five times. Maxim job openings are in USA, New York and San Francisco as for USA's concerns. In other countries London, Berlin, Singapore, Hong Kong and India is also increasing at a very fast rate. I can say that average salary in USA for blockchain developer is almost 1.4 k 140 k and in Asia it's a little less almost 90,000 in Europe is again in the same range of 75,000 in USA it's quite higher and these numbers what you see see there are various reports data is available in various reports and the data is correlated from all of that and it may not be very accurate these are just numbers published by different places so the data may not be very accurate and the trend why it is seen because we are getting a lot of inquiry we're placing the like we are servicing our customers we know that in fact the salaries are higher than this according to me it's not low actually and because this number is little older say late 2020 but right now because adoption is in creative fast rate resources there's a bunch of resources and demand is so much that price has increased so this number in fact is much higher and the roles what do you see where it's going mainly it's a blockchain engineering side operation side and there are some requirements coming on design sales and marketing side so I'll talk about the roles in more detail in the next slides as I mentioned finance is leading and 20 percent of the job 28 percent of the jobs are coming in that space and followed by in fact supply chain now would say the number two healthcare energy and food and the biggest employers globally what we see is a IBM Deloitte Accenture Cisco these are some of the company's consensus is another company who are the big employer in fact they have a purely blockchain company and they have more than 800 employees in that company and like that many big exchanges like finance like that they they also are high and like they are the big very big employers and maximum big employers are exchanges that when companies mining firms they account for eighty five percent of the professional employees Bobby can you go to the next slide okay so let me spend some time here it's better to understand what the job kind of job roles blockchain is a very complex technology I would say it's not easy to understand and that is why even the project manager are a sales guy it's not it's not easy for them to execute the project or sell blockchain technology without really having understanding of anything understand any understanding of blockchain so that is why you see that here it says blockchain concern and blockchain architect blockchain legal consultant and blockchain sales writer or data scientist because it requires at least some understanding to play any one of these kind of roles but and there is no standard as on today what a particular job role is all about you will see that there are different job roles somebody would say I need a blockchain engineer somebody would say I need a blockchain developer somebody someone would say that I need token engineer co-op engineer or blockchain advisor so like that they're different names but let me clarify it here so blockchain consultant or advisor or analyst they would fall in the same category and these are the people who understand blockchain concepts these are the people who understand to me and in fact that is the first thing what you need for implementation of blockchain technology because they are the people who comes in front where based on the requirement they design solution and that is the first thing what is needed and in fact what we have observed that companies when they advertise mostly they would say that they need blockchain engineer blockchain developer but if you see the job description basically it will move towards blockchain consultant because unless you design is to identify the right use case and design a solution you will not be able to go to that level where you start developing the solution so blockchain engineer or administrator is comes at number two level where they need to actually create the network do the setup and then after that development actually starts happening so development or smart you can say smart contract developer or blockchain developer they actually and there are two kind of developer here one is a core developer second is a application developer when you say core developer core developer is someone who actually works on the core of blockchain framework or blockchain protocol whereas application developer is someone who creates the application using blockchain framework then crypto engineer and token engineer in fact everybody asked blockchain engineer and if you see the job description in fact they would be needing crypto engineer token engineer and that is one is the biggest in demand as of today because tokenization is increasing the applications later tokenization is increasing at a very very fast rate you must have heard about NFT it's a non-fungible token digital art right so that is one of the use case of tokenization okay so cryptocurrency, bitcoin and ethereum and all of these you must have heard all of these again it's crypto token and it's a tokenization which is using blockchain as a technology so that is where the maximum buzz is or maximum application which is happening and that is what is going to impact our financial industry in a very big way it is changing the scenario the way businesses are being done and you will see that impact slowly and slowly next five years or five to ten years big in our finance industry will have to major overhaul because of this tokenization and blockchain technology so next is blockchain architect in fact blockchain architect comes in the beginning before even you start engineering the project or developing the project because once you identify the use case you're supposed to create an architecture you're supposed to know oh how many nodes how many organizations are required okay how they're going to connect meet each other what framework do you need to use uh whether it should be public blockchain it should be a private blockchain permission blockchain so how the permissioning will happen and it's a complete architecture needs to be created so architect plays a big role where architect is supposed to have a good understanding of multiple framework they should have a good understanding of the blockchain concepts and different frameworks so uh blockchain consultant is a subset of architect architect is the next level and architect is someone who actually has worked on multiple technology has played some kind of role in architecting uh and or doing the architecting kind of work in the past so blockchain quality engineer or tester that is something right now the demand for that is low but it's going to increase there's more and more adoption is increasing uh you would be needing quality engineers or tester uh for blockchain blockchain legal consultant atoni is another uh uh area where atonis are required to really understand uh the legal implications when it comes to tokenization or when it comes to legalization of smart contract or any other thing and uh there's another uh one is BAS blockchain edge service operator so there are many blockchain managed service provider and uh generally like many of the network could be based on these managed services so operator is someone who's supposed to basically manage those networks it this is one of the skill which is going to increase going forward same way blockchain generally or writer they are supposed to have a good understanding so that you can start writing same way in blockchain sales project manager cyber security market research data scientist so all of these people are supposed to have some understanding blockchain so that they can play that role and more effective in any uh in their own area okay can you go to the next slides bobby yeah okay uh so right now the biggest demand as mentioned is a blockchain developer and blockchain developer it includes uh uh crypto token as well so blockchain developer uh it uh uh there are multiple different kind of developers depending upon the framework like solidary developer, chain for developer, quota developer uh so that is uh uh these are different framework when you see you want to be blockchain developer so in what for what kind of framework uh so it's for ethereum or it's for high pleasure or it's for quota same way uh when you want to become a consultant so consultant i would say there are two main areas here one is the enterprise blockchain consultant second is tokenization so i'm putting these are putting these in two different specific categories enterprise blockchain consultant and tokenization consultant so tokenizing mainly it's for public blockchain enterprise blockchain consultant is for enterprise applications so uh in that again you're supposed to understand or learn uh what are the different frameworks if i talk about enterprise blockchains in under high pleasure there is a framework like fabric or sawtooth or indy or besu like coda is there uh even ethereum forum is there when it comes to tokenization then there are various uh platform public platform is there uh for example ethereum cardano and uh like that then it it comes to a blockchain engineer so blockchain engineer again they are supposed to have a good understanding of blockchain uh in terms of various frameworks are there and they work differently so fabric is ethereum is there coda is there indy besu like that and then blockchain architect uh so which is uh which cut across multiple technology or multiple frameworks and tools so these are the four major prominent uh areas where blockchain jobs are available okay can you go to the next slide please see it it just talks about again these numbers are from uh internet so i cannot really say how accurate these numbers are but i can say one thing it shows the trends the blockchain market is growing at a very very fast rate and uh blockchain developer engineers are maximum demand and they are actually demanding a very high salary in usc up to 200 k they're getting and uh uh asia in china hong kong singapore in india the salary is a little less but it's still very high compared to any other technology what we see uh can you go to the next slide please okay so here i'm going to talk about uh the trading programs so what are being mapped is where the mapping has been done as per the job roles okay and uh blockchain consultant blockchain developer blockchain administrator and blockchain architects so these are the areas where my maximum job openings are there and uh once many the programs are according to these different job roles and if anyone of you do that in that case you can make your career in that for that particular role but it doesn't mean that by uh joining any of these programs you cannot have a different job roles so it depends upon your skill set your interest and your your past experience will make a difference here so can we go to the next slide please all right say if i talk about blockchain developer the two different programs but here we we have we're offering here one is on the ethereum development ethereum framework and second is on a hyper laser fabric and uh these two programs if you cover in fact uh 70 percent or 80 percent of the uh development work or job requirement would be actually covered by these two programs if i talk about blockchain administrator uh so we are offering the blockchain fabric administrator program and in fact that will also cover when it comes to administrator administration uh 50 60 60 percent of the format will be covered here and same way blockchain architect which covers across ethereum hyper fabric and a few other areas go to and all that all that he talks about it covers the concepts so it talks about development area it talks about administration area and it talks about multiple frameworks and in all of these programs so we have a blockchain concepts we have depending upon uh focus is more uh if it is development focus is more on development side if it is admin focus is more admin side with architect it's more on uh uh it it it covers all all of the areas and uh in all of them uh in all of these programs we have a caption project uh we talk about uh we basically we take one of the use case uh and we develop that use case so these programs uh uh like uh we have been the mention the hours here you can visit this website bcmplot.indianblockchaininstitute.com you can sign up over there you can see all the details of all the programs and uh and know about more about this program and pricing is given over there and if you if you feel interested you can uh sign up for any one of the program so these programs we are targeting to launch uh uh like will become these programs will be conducted on the weekends so that Saturday Sunday starting at 9 a.m eastern time that's the plan but you can visit the website and see if you want to understand more and we can connect so that we can help you out with the what information you need so Bobby uh so this is what I want to say any question I'm happy to take up that question yeah we're going to go into questions and answers in just a second I just want to pull over the website for people to get information at it is www.bcmplot.com we list current jobs from major companies we're going to make this automatic feed from their news feeds for jobs so that it will be current and up to date we also have a tab for if you're interested in becoming a partner with this website to post your jobs we have an information about that also we have our contact information um and then we'll put the uh presentation that we just did as well as all the information and links from the chat on this opportunity seeker page um which is basically a summary of what we talked about tonight leading up to our next event which let me go back to the slideshow if Jim wants to discuss for a moment that would be great Jim are you there or not today I don't know if he's available today so we're going to just move along the slide let me see if I can click it from here and yep let me go back so up in coming events Jim is going to host the next BC employee event and that is going to be geared more towards filling your pipeline and how that's going to happen we're going to have speakers again guest speakers that will be interviewed for that one and then the final one is going to be a Princeton meetup that I'm going to host in person in Tiger Labs on Nassau Street in Princeton but we will also feed it Zoom so it will be a hybrid meeting there we're going to discuss how to market yourself and we're going to have other speakers come in as well and then the final session is going to be a job fair where all the great companies that have talked and all the great people who want to jump in whether they're started their training finished their training or thinking about their trainings can join the companies at their tables and discuss the jobs that are available and if your skill set is in line right now to apply or if you need to work on your training skill sets also we mentioned earlier with the mentorship program the giving chain again we're just starting we need everybody we need community builders we need UX designers we need sales people marketing people graphics people we need developers we need anyone from a social service organization that would like to see if this use case fits their need again we're just getting started this project's going to run till November we're going to meet just about every week it's listed in the Hyperledger calendar our meetings as well as on the meetup for Princeton's blockchain so please join our next meeting is next Friday so that is available for people to join and I think Jim may have jumped on here and he might be able to display in on about the Boston Meetup yeah hi I'm Jim here and I just yeah basically Bobby did cover it correctly I'm putting together a panel of in a sense recruiters who can talk to in a sense building a roadmap for your own blockchain opportunities what the process is try to help you set expectations that kind of stuff so that's briefly what second two on the 29th would be thank you and now I'm going to turn it back over to oh John for Q&A okay if anyone would like to go ahead and let me know that you'd like to ask a question of Noresh or Bobby or I don't know if we have our panelists still on but let's go ahead and just kind of talk a little bit about it here I know I've seen some questions about kind of the startup ecosystem so Daniela if you're on maybe you can touch base on the startup ecosystem a little bit more I would definitely recommend you go and check out a lot of the special interest groups in the vertical that you're looking to do a startup so if you're looking to do something around identity management you know go ahead and check out a special interest group there and I would just say you know go on to the hyperledger.org website and there's a lot of good deep dive you can do but it's definitely very supportive of the startup ecosystem and I think you know Kaleido is a you know smaller organization and they can just talk about you know how they're doing with that type of environment let's see what other impact of low code no code platforms so maybe I'll turn that one over to Noresh what is your thought about that as far as its impact on hyperledger okay so let me understand the question once again this question is from whom this is from Mike and he sent it to me directly so Mike if you want to come off mute and just ask your question directly to Noresh that'd be great can I be heard yep we can hear you Mike yeah I'll just repeat the question verbally but what kind of impact do you think local no code platforms will have on current and future projects in hyperledger space okay so see there's a need for a different kind of framework and there are like many frameworks which are available right now and coming up every now and then we come to here I came to come to know that new framework comes up so hyperledger under that umbrella project the multiple frameworks fabric is on the top and there are various projects under that which are going on globally and the outside hyperledger other than there's a quota so when we talk about enterprise blockchain applications any kind of majority of the enterprise applications are covered under this permission blockchain which is mainly I would say is by fabric and quota so any new project related to enterprise anyway it's going to be mainly in hyperledger as a project under that umbrella or quota but if when it comes to tokenization tokenization hyperledger does not really cover tokenization it does not support that as of now but they are actually working in that space too so it's mainly the ethereum or derived blockchain framework based on ethereum so the many which are there and they they are they are going to work independently so when it comes to any kind of jobs it's going to be in both the spaces I hope it answers your question yeah I like to add to that and yet in the rush you're right tokenization there's a bunch of tokenizations there's just a project with the smart token sdk that is now in hyperledger labs for fabric and certainly with bezu there's a lot of projects including e-teller for example which is a project that came out of the capital market sig where they've coded out a synthetic token for the ethereum blockchain but on the question mic that you had around low code no code you know think of it you know like back in the days when people were developing websites and we didn't have wordpress or you know any of the other user tools that makes it really easy for people to develop you know websites there's always going to be a need for developers who have deep expertise at the protocol level at the you know sdk level at the api level etc but as these technologies get adopted and they get matured there's going to be a need for applications at the business logic level so and that gives an opportunity for business analysts who are not developers to be able to work with blockchain technologies to do that so i think that's your question mic maybe you can clarify if i'm wrong about that but my take and we're seeing blockchain platforms in our own ecosystem we have folks like simba chain for example as well as chainstack collido where their focus is building an application layer for the business analysts that are going to be running the you know not as administrators to the blockchain networks or developers of blockchain but actually of running the running of the networks so is that answer your question mic yeah absolutely i think i think that pretty much covers it yeah so there's a couple ecosystem players that you might see and simba chain is actually hiring and as is collido and i i just saw that two more two more job posts were approved over on our job site and they're looking for developers for their platform but a lot of the solutions that they have for the the ecosystem or for their customers are you know what many would call low-code low-code type of applications yes i would like to add here so as more and more applications of platforms are coming in fact the enterprises companies can adopt those in fact does not require any development work you can start using them as it is the only thing that you might need to do some kind of integration with your existing application but otherwise in fact for that they also expose apis and by connecting your existing applications you can start communicating with the blockchain network and start using it so that's a trend and that is that is how it's gonna be going forward so in fact low and very less development work would be required okay i can see there this one question related to any training for consulting so as i mentioned the one of the rule which is a blockchain consultant blockchain analyst and in fact that is what even Daniela is was talking about that according to me that is very important right now because if you identify use case unless you identify use case and start taking decision whether you want to implement blockchain or not you cannot really do any kind of development work so there's some kind of design thinking is required say there's some kind of analysis required in terms of identification the right use case because blockchain cannot be implemented everywhere and blockchain is also not the solution for every problem so identification of the right use case and then designing the solution around that and in fact there can be so many different use cases in the company where you should spend your energy and time where you are going to get maximum return on investment that's a rule of a consultant and a very very important rule which comes on the top according to me say the other questions if you're interested and have the band with David yeah one question i'll just highlight nuresh is lanchel had a question about will the training courses help a non-technical person transition into a technical career and i think there there's such a wealth of training materials it's offered through hyper ledger and the hyper ledger training partners that i think you know being able to get skilled up for a blockchain career is something that's definitely in the cards but you just have to dive into the training materials and maybe even bobby wants to highlight a little bit on that as well yeah two things just to highlight i'm going to share my screen again one is on our website the learning dashboard it connects to the learning management system at the indian blockchain association so if you're just interested in learning more about the specific trainings and what they do this is a great interface it talks about all the different programs if you click on one of the programs depending on my internet connection it shows you how many hours the schedule for it had to enroll in it so this is a great resource if you're interested in diving more into getting a certification and again having a certification on your linkedin profile which is a live resume now is a great opportunity also though i'm going to do this quickly is the learning materials development working group at hyper ledger and i'm sure every other company like consensus and corda have working groups have special interest groups and have learning materials on their website this is the wiki site for hyper ledger so it's more of like an internal playground i play there all the time this is the learning materials development working site what it does it teaches you how to become a member how to get a linux login how to edit a wiki page and also in our it shows you how to join a meeting so again there's different working groups like the identity working group that's cross sector working on the identity issue in blockchain you have performance and scale issues again learning materials need to be collected we have a resource library that has information developed by the community stored and indexed organized for you to at your fingertips and again the special interest groups is where it is the easiest place to onboard and get involved in the community and that goes for consensus working groups quarter working groups hyper ledger working groups and i will highlight the working group jim has the is the chair of the public sector working group and basically that's governments coming together and discussing issues and problems that they may have line with that work so each one has its own page you can there's your join button you can join the group i'll go back to learning materials just to show you so any special interest group you're interested in learning more about if you go to the special interest groups home page there's a subscribe button when you do that you'll be getting the emails about the meetings that they're having and if you're ever interested in joining a meeting we have meetings every day they're open to the public please just i encourage you to join the learning materials working group because that's where you're going to learn the most but if you go to the main hyper ledger wiki page the menu down the left has a calendar of public meetings and this is so cool every day it has what meetings are happening so today there's one more meetup it's ours we're still active so it's still on there tomorrow there is a sawtooth meeting if you're interested in that blockchain there's also the diversity civility and inclusion working group that's a working group that's based whose basis is to develop techniques to onboard diverse community members and to get everyone working together in a non-threatening environment so again any interest you have these are open meetings you would just click copy the zoom link at the time and just join the meeting so again i didn't hope i didn't take up too much time with that lengthy explanation but again all of the companies have working groups to join they have learning materials available for you i have been in the hyper ledger community for a little over three years and it is the best education i never paid for compared to the ones that i did pay for which was lots of college so again if you're you're willing to learn and donate some time that's one avenue or you know get the training look at the training programs get certified because that goes a long way as well i would like to add at the point here so this question what you're talking about whether the programs can help a non-technical guy to become a technical so here you don't have first of all you don't have to really become technical guy being a non-technical guy unless you want it of course anybody can become a developer at any age that is a matter but you don't have really become a technical guy so when i see that so of course it requires a good understanding blockchain concepts so when you get deeper the subject is so vast it takes a lot of time and when you really understand as a non-technical guy in your domain area in your industry you can really think very in a different way you're thinking can be broadened and then you can come off with the solutions which can help your own company or your own business to perform better or to implement that solution so you don't have to really become a technical guy just attending like being this program you can become a blockchain consultant advisor or analyst and still you remain as a non-technical guy just to answer the question thank you everything i'd like to highlight uh lancel if you want to jump in there and ask a question then i'm going to highlight something posted in the chat so go ahead yeah i just want to say thank you that was a very detailed explanation and the question but i just want to clarify the reason i was asking is because my background is in project management so i'm not sure how to transition into the industry so it's like because it seems it's a very technical industry so that's why i was asking between consulting or just leaning you know all the way into blockchain developer or engineer that's why that's why i'm not sure uh which way so so let let me clarify this answer in a different way as well uh in last couple of years uh in fact uh we have trained maximum guys who are non-technical and when i say non-technical people are from different backgrounds whether they are from finance industry or supply chain industry healthcare industry they are from your government project management side and they have never done coding their life and in fact and when we did this program for those people we focus purely on the business side when you say business side understanding the concepts of blockchain what really blockchain is all about and how it can help a business that is very very important and that is when once you have that understanding you can perform your role in much better way suppose you have done project management and you are implementing some project which is a related project related to blockchain in that case you're supposed to really understand what are the nuances of blockchain what are the different terminology how it helps how it works and how different resources in that space how they think and what kind of challenges they can face understanding everything that kind of understanding can help you and perform your role much better way if you're even if you're from a different industry and project management uh non non IT in that case you have to really decide whether you want to get into the project management of IT or blockchain in that case having this kind of understanding or learning can help you to perform better and i'm also going to add um please come out for the giving chain um meetings we take um when we did the project in 2019 we had uh six checks checkpoints that we work through to build the project three out of six checkpoints are purely business it's building relationships it's project management it is um you know calling people up from food banks or from the american red cross or it's building solid business models and that is just project management and every blockchain project needs an equal support for the business side than the technology technology side i know at hyper ledger we find the best projects are the ones that reach across from the developers into the special interest groups to actually solve a project and they all need managers perfect thank you so much and you're gonna the link up i'm gonna find the link to the event you're talking about or yeah bobby will post a link to the next event in boston in the chat uh the other thing i was just going to highlight is lindsay thanks for posting that uh notice about the community meeting that you have coming up there and i really want to highlight that hyper ledger is always very open and welcoming to new community members and i think lindsay's post really highlights that and so anyone who is new to the hyper ledger community i welcome you to you know take lindsay up on you know joining one of these special interest groups or like bobby talked about come into the hyper ledger learning materials working group meetings or even go and visit the website and just check out all the great content that's out there and bobby's done a wonderful job of really building out that content to make it a very useful page okay i have a question as well kind of similar to the question i was previously asked but with a uh a background outside of blockchain you know for example i have a business analyst role so i have experience with like net suite i've also done insurance sales how does one craft a resume and what kind of resume system are these companies running and what are you looking inside of a resume in cv to kind of give you that wow factor that you guys are looking for uh so i can take a piece if someone else is there who wants to take up this question from our environment point of views yeah i would just say that okay so go ahead noresh you can go yeah go for it and answer that question okay all right so uh i would say one thing here uh you can be from any background and i'm trying to answer this question that understanding a blockchain concept is very very important for identification of the right use case and implementing the solution most of the companies today uh whether it's a it or non it even i'm i'm talking about even it companies they do not really understand what blockchain is and everybody needs to understand what blockchain is what what is the potential blockchain what it can do and how it can help the industry when you start learning when you start getting deeper when you start researching when you start talking about what blockchain can do that is when you start thinking in different direction and that is what is needed for any employer even though your past experience could be anything but ultimately it's your skill set your knowledge your understanding about the concepts understanding about the technology which can help the company your employer or being a consultant analyst can help others and that is what i believe that companies need even though i as i mentioned earlier many of the companies i've seen i did some analysis that when we see the bujo posting the title would this they will say that they need blockchain engineer blockchain developer in fact many of the uh joe posting they don't need a developer they don't need a technical guy what they need first is a blockchain consultant and blockchain analyst who understands blockchain technology from the concepts point of view not from coding point of view and if you gain that skill and you are able to articulate in your cv then that is what the company is yeah joe uh please go ahead sorry i interrupted you no i think that that's great advice to him and uh i like uh lindsay just posted uh certifications in the chat so she talks about uh or corsera you to me block geeks and edX is another way to look at that so i would just say uh you know and bobby will also point you to ledger academy for really getting those skill sets uh to demonstrate regardless of your background that you have the necessary blockchain background to you know be hired by one of these companies we had on the call earlier today or any one of the other enterprise blockchain companies that are a hyper ledger member okay is there any other uh question look like kenneth also pointed to mit has a lot of blockchain classes and i agree with that and i've seen a lot uh posted and i think we'll go ahead bobby the one question about how to the best way to market yourself we're going to go over that uh self branding for a little bit of time in the third session but i would say that a lot of people now um linkedin is the standard for people if they're interested in what you're up to they will go to your linkedin profile you should have pictures it should be um informative it should not just be a blank you know screen you should have a lot of information when someone goes to that page sees it for the first time they should be wow look at this person they have a lot going on it can be anything from volunteering um on a project like the giving chain or even attending a working group and getting involved in a working group that looks good on your linkedin profile um again so linkedin is definitely um a connection vehicle and the better your linkedin profile has the more information it has the more recognition you'll get and i also want to highlight what daniel had talked about at the very beginning here is on linkedin you can go ahead and post where you're looking for certain jobs so if you set a broad perspective uh blockchain job search it will you know be able to send you on a regular basis all the great blockchain jobs that are being recruited from on linkedin so that's another great resource no question here kenneth here you don't hear me yeah we can hear you kenneth go ahead thanks thanks for asking uh seeing my comment yeah i wonder and it comes to hyper ledger and the blockchain what are the resources to perhaps collaborate for uh or domestic and international projects we actually have been working on projects and the caribbean and also uh african unions i do you have any recommendations for collaborations for these sustainable uh projects and they are in the areas of fintech and healthcare and uh for the most right i have any recommendations for that no i didn't get your question john uh i think that he's asking about uh social impact type projects and i know that there are definitely social impact working groups with hyper ledger and i could probably pull up and find one of those to you yeah thank you yeah there's a bit more than social impact we're actually developing fintech solutions already with some experience working within the healthcare and the fintech sectors using blockchain so we're looking for real uh business methods not not for we're not looking for donation we're looking for actually use part of the of the existing resources we do have about for example 60 blockchain developers already on the on the african continent and also in the caribbean about two so we're trying to collaborate and find projects and also we're providing training for uh for groups for startup entrepreneurial groups and also some government agencies so that's what's happening this year so we're looking for resources to participate together and keep the momentum um kenneth we have a pretty strong regional chapters that might be a good place for you to find you know other other people that are working on on projects and talk about the projects if you're trying to recruit people and support um so i just put the hyper ledger africa chapter as one of the regional examples we also have one latino america i know that uh is here and can probably share some of the work that they're doing you know our goal was to help connect you know developers and projects with each other so that um you can you know share and get best practices and kind of get feedback on what you're building out so do check out our regional chapters though those tend to be a good place i mean as john said we have a social impact special interest group um also a health care special interest group so very sector specific use cases that we're tackling in those sigs and those are all open um you know for anyone to um to kind of dig in as they want great thanks yeah yeah we're brazil is also another place that we're working on so who takes on that can i can i say sir two words towards that social impact projects please sure uh my name is shiro mania and i think like i met a gentleman a few years ago in washington dc and he is well connected in united nations and he is working on a social impact project in uh africa which is basically unbanking the banking uh banking the unbanking actually that's his motto and he gives how the main reason is like how do i give credit to a person who has no identity in africa right so a layman who works just like a two dollars a day uh who can give them a credit so those kind of um a task he has taken and he is using blockchain as a fundamental identity um you know for those uh um banking the unbanking and doing a great job so if if you need i can he is on my LinkedIn i can point give a pointer towards him and also i do know a couple of other projects which is going on the mobile payment section um in africa as well as in Mauritius and um south american countries so i hope to me yeah that's great i like to invite them and we have weekly meetings about uh startups and entrepreneurship groups and funding in africa so they can also invite you or anyone to those meetings as well i can if it's okay can i put my LinkedIn um uh can i put my LinkedIn uh url in the chat yep yeah the one thing i i want to also highlight is and daniella was way ahead of me on this is kiva has done great work with hyper ledger and they had partnered with sierra leone on doing some very much uh identity and payments in uh you know sub-saharan africa so definitely check out kiva's work and they're very active in the hyper ledger community as well thanks very much that's great thank you and we just yeah and we just just this morning i can't remember it was in asia pacific we had a session um specific to the topic so i'll try to find that link to um good and i see alfonso posted about unicef innovation so alfonso if you want to take and come off mute and talk a little bit about that that'd be great um yes that's a group of thank you john um that's a group at un that has been doing a lot a lot of research in blockchain and social impact so for kenneth that would be um a good way to to connect okay with a multilateral okay besides all the data and all the links that that have been provided in this extraordinary team by the way congratulations to you all for putting it together is great thank you very much nico deli i will uh and look at information and i have worked at the un so i'll reconnect and i'll just try to gather these resources together thank you yep and i'll just call out mike's other question here about talking about hyper ledger sawtooth versus fabric for project development and i think it depends on your use case and the great thing about hyper ledger it's the hyper ledger greenhouse so there's a lot of relevant projects under the greenhouse that may be perfectly applicable to whatever type of vertical project you're doing so i would just kind of go through the hyper ledger website and look at the project that's most relevant to your project okay you guys gonna be fired up now thanks i have a question so do you have anything towards enforcing uh ocean sustainability and international waters for policy you haven't have you seen anything of that nature around can you repeat that there is we're seeking something which is relevant to ocean sustainability and also enforcing international policies for violations using blockchain in for oceans yes international waters there was a presentation here let me i'm gonna send you to one thing it was a we had a session around uh future humanitarian sector use cases um that should be posted hopefully soon on our youtube site um but there was uh if i recall correctly there was an ocean plastic recycling solution that was recently presented um was that with borax was that a borax borax project this is the one with whip row ocean plastics um here i'll i'll post to it here yeah there's also one uh are you familiar with the company called the plastic bank plastic oh yeah i've heard that one yeah okay right yeah the plastic bank uh definitely has adopted blockchain to really especially with haiti haiti's been one of their top uh locations to really you know foster recycling of plastic by paying above market rates versus having it go into the ocean and if you bought a bottle of windex recently you'll see that sc johnson is actually using recycled plastic for that uh windex bottle and that's due to their collaboration with the plastic bank so they're really doing great work i know the plastic bank team well and if you need a connection to the plastic bank i i'm more than glad to make an introduction yeah it'll be great thank you there is we just spoke about that uh this morning a similar collaboration out in kenya for running up a solution for a solution to run to uh for for a plastic recycling collection thank you yeah i'll just post my email in here if anyone wants to follow up after the session just feel free to reach out to me and i will put the slides and the information from the chat up on the website under opportunity seekers okay well uh it looks like we've gone past about two hours here which is wonderful and i think this has been an exceptional session so uh i think we're hitting a good place to wrap up here and so thank everyone i want to thank you for attending the session today and definitely take all those great links and information from today's session uh bobby will go ahead and share out any type of slide deck from the presentation and then we'll look forward to seeing you at the next event and bobby maybe want to talk about that real quick sure that excuse me that is the one hosted by boston and jim and we will have um it publicized through linkedin through hyper ledger um and i have um everyone's name from the participants and i'm going to try to find you through linkedin and connect with you and and then you will get direct emails from this um so also i'll put uh information um control on the website so you can give me your email through that um as well to be posted um as to the next events but the end the next event is the one in the end of july and again it will be posted on the hyper ledger sites and meetup sites thank you everyone for coming and thank you john and danielle and and nourish and elfonso and melissa and edwardo and everyone who contributed today yeah thank you everyone thanks john for organizing and the rest of the team thanks really great let's see thank you very nice have a great day everyone we'll talk soon take care you guys rock thank you so much