Welcome to JSA TV, where we're covering the latest stories, trends, and innovations from leaders in digital infrastructure, the channel, and the networks within. I'm Allison Whelan coming to you live from Channel Partners 2024 in fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada, and joining me is Craig Kaplan from Zenlayer. Thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having me, Allison. Appreciate it. Of course. So, we caught up with your team in a few shows recently, but for those who may not know, Zenlayer is the world's first hyper-connected cloud. Can you explain to our viewers what that means and why it's so important in today's technologically interwoven world? Yeah. A lot of folks think we're just an infrastructure company. We have 300 POPs, we're deployed all around the world globally. But really what we're also doing is connecting those POPs, whether it's in cloud connections or through SDN routes. Our global connectivity is really incredible with a public and private backbone. So, strong performance, incredibly reliability, and a lot of optionality in terms of how you want to network from one location to another location, in a lot of emerging markets as well. They're hard to reach that we really specialize in. Yeah. We'll get to those hard-to-reach markets in a minute. The all-value ads there that you mentioned. Your channel program is incredibly established, but 2024 to date, what have you guys done so far and where are we heading in the future? We'll have to take my channel team. They've done a fantastic job over the years, our junior vice president LL and Dan, who really rolled out an incredible partnership program. We're out here at Channel Partners because this is a fantastic show. It is. We're having lots of fantastic meetings and seeing our partners. We really have a partner-first strategy, particularly with our clients in the US and Europe. So, this is very important to us. We're going to double down and hit the road this year. Twice as many roadshows to me with our partners. We're putting more field sales reps out there in the US as well, solution engineers. So, we're really going to partner closely, regionally with our channel partners out there and target global 2000 enterprise customers that can really use our value-adding services. We love to hear that. Doubling down, catch ZendLayer on the road even more. And ZendLayer is known for bringing connectivity to those hard-to-reach areas, like we had said. What geographies are on the radar right now? Well, we've traditionally been known as an APAC deployment. And we're doing that incredibly strong. I think it's safe to say that nobody's doing it as well as us in Asia. But we're incredibly strong in South America. We're having emerging markets like in the Middle East. We're doing three deployments right now in Saudi Arabia, an office that we're opening up in Dubai to help manage our operations in the Middle East. And we've seen a lot of incredible deployments in Indonesia, the Philippines. We just signed a partnership with Vietel in Vietnam a few months ago. And so we're seeing Vietnam emerging as a great market. And so those areas and then connecting them all together is really what our specialty is. Absolutely global beyond APAC. Yeah, exactly. So is there any news that you're sharing a channel partner? Is there anything you want to share with our viewers? Well, we keep growing incredibly fast. And so what folks who've met with us or seen us three months ago, six months ago, we want to continually update them with the fact that we have over 300 POPs, 130 terabit per second network. We have 70 locations for bare metal. We can do Kolo, manage hosting in all those locations as well. So the options to deliver compute on the edge while delivering the high performance network is great. But what also is incredible is the news of multiple new logos in the global 2000 space. In fact, we turned up a customer just this weekend who is a global logistics company. And they really needed to deploy quickly. Their procurement process, as you can imagine, is very slow. Their contracting process is very slow. They can't use a lot of vendors because it's just too cumbersome for them internally. So they found out about us through a partner and brought it to us. And we were able to go through their procurement process to accelerate it because they recognize the value we can bring. We did our first deployment in Asia for them just last week. And now they've ordered six new sites for us to deploy. Wow, well, congratulations. So we're excited about that news. The other news is that, and I think this is a really surprising story, is that one of our current customers, global satellite communications company, asks us to deploy out into Jakarta. And folks don't believe this story, but it's true that we were able to deploy net new cabinet into a data center in Jakarta in less than 72 hours and turn it up. And that's the kind of time to market we're able to bring as a value, not only to our customers, but our partners really appreciate that because the quicker we can turn up services, they look good. Of course. And that's something that we want to continue to do and really lead the industry in. Suddenly you're making your partners look good, right? 72 hours. Exactly right. Well, congratulations on the growth. It's always great to see your team. And for our viewers who may want to learn more, where can they go to connect with you or to connect with ZendLayer? Great question, Allison. We just launched a brand new website this week, ZendLayer.com. So go check that out. Obviously you can always reach LL and Dan, even if I'm making fun of them a little bit. And then we're gonna be out there on the road. So if you want us to drop in to, we're going to New York next week, we're going to be in San Jose the week after, Dallas, London, Chicago, probably missing a few cities, Denver somewhere. So all this in the next two months. And so if you want us to drop in and meet with teams, reach out to me as well. ZendLayer.com. Well, we'll see you around the world, wherever that may be. So thank you to our viewers for tuning in and thank you, Craig, for joining me. Until next time, happy networking. Thanks, Allison.


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Yeah to identify with so and then of course on top of it It was a good story. It was a good comic book. It wasn't just you know, it wasn't shitty It was really really well made and then they called the black panther and then at that time You had the 1966 wasn't when it came out at that time You had the black panthers coming out and you know, they were like a like a political, you know kind of fringe movement or group or whatever and There was pressure to change the name But they didn't because everybody was cool with it everybody liked it so it's kind of really cool But it was a good movie.  He's from right in Africa. That's where they get all the technology and stuff, huh? and Like the bad guys want Wakanda to go to war with the the colonizers a.k.a European white people to To defeat them on behalf of all the oppressed You know minorities or whatever. So there's that kind of racial undertone, which is which is today is very You know interesting right a little bit. Yeah, so but but and that's that's cool. That's today, right? What's going on today? Do you go watch that yesterday watch all my kids?  It's like twice What is that about? Yeah, no, it's really good. It's really good Although I will say by the last episode I was a little let down Because it I feel like documentaries as much as I love to watch documentaries. I Mean everything has a bias, right? Mm-hmm So you definitely felt the anti-trump campaign behind it towards the end and there was hints of it in the middle of it So more more towards him and not in general, right, right and they I mean the whole last The so they there was I think six or said did you watch all of them Justin? No, I just made it through like mainly the VW stuff in the beginning Yeah, interesting about money and politics or just so do you know so the history of VW goes all the way back to hit Oh, yeah, he started it. That's a VW is the people's wagon. Mm-hmm, right? So they they dove into VW, which I thought that was a very fascinating so I also thought it was very fascinating to that VW was the the vehicle of choice to that all the anti What's Like anti-government movement during the the 60s with the all the all the VW vans and them getting out smoking weed. Yeah, the irony of that being right.  I mean, this is just 2015 We're not very recent is this and I didn't watch it, but does it but I remember there was something about them clean diesel Yeah, like lying or changing it bro. They created a little You know, they hacked the system so that when they did the test indoors it would register under the levels But actually outside it was grossly 40 times mostly polluting it was 40 times the the amount you were allowed to have in there and they They revived the company off of that cheating. I mean they cheated that way to get into the US And so they're probably killed in our market like so that was I thought that was pretty wild They had a couple good episodes. I mean it was really good. So I recommend it to people I think it's a really good series, but I also did feel the The anti-trump feel to it and then it was really obvious when the last episode was literally all about Trump the thing that I that I hate when these Like documentaries and stuff going to politics is that they'll focus on It's usually look the director is usually either You know right or he's left right or she she she or here's either right wing or left wing And so when they make that these documentaries on how bad Politics is and how corrupted is they'll focus on the bad on the side that they're against right when in reality It's all the same. It's all happening on a look at every angle. Oh both sides do it It's actually there is no two sides. That's no, it's a big illusion. It's all well It's what it's two sides the same coin and I don't mind it She I don't mind it like grazing over those topics with I appreciate that but you can tell when they're like They're only pulling that out, you know, I'm saying like they're like the intention is to like the cherry-picking Yeah, and they're their intention is to destroy one's character by presenting just this information It's like okay Well, if you're gonna present all that you got to present the good side of what he accomplished and did also too It's like it was that made out to be how corrupt and dirty and he's really not that But the other episodes are not like that. Yeah, the rest of my thought were really really good I thought for the most part I I enjoyed the series Katrina and I enjoyed the series. It was really I think it's really good. Cool. I'll check it out. It's like right up my alley. I love that. Yeah No, you'll you'll you'll definitely dig it and each one is very very different So each each one of the episode each one of the episodes is totally.  You know what I mean? So it tends to tends to happen that way man My sense this morning.  Oh? It's built into parents did yeah, it's always it's it's I haven't been over enough or I didn't call like some ant You know because of something that was happening and I'm like or like somebody from high school that she ran into that I'm supposed to connect with and I'm like, I don't even know who that is, you know Yes, I get this message this morning because you know we we we travel quite a bit and When we're here we're here So we're working and then when I'm not here I have a lot of scheduling and stuff to take care of with my kids and the house And then there's a lot of work that you know, I personally do you outside of here We all do right because we have the forum and we have Social media and you know all these other things that we're doing and then on top of it my kids and schedule So it's just it's a it's like a spread thing. It's not a bad thing. It's all good stuff But it's just I have no time right so I don't I can go through a I can go through a whole week without Like going and seeing my parents especially if they're not watching my kids now if they watch my kids by default I'll see them because I'll go pick them right kids.   I told was oblivious to it, right?  So it's just it's really taught me the art of communication So you talk about, you know, the things that yeah, you are necessity, right through necessity It was like if I wanted to get anything done or I didn't want to get railed by my mom or felt get make her Let her make me feel guilty about something. I had to really learn to communicate around that And so he actually heard that and he starts laughing. He's like, I always wondered where you got it from You know saying he just came out of nowhere. I got to the point now I'm at the point now where she'll do something or a little bit like that and I'll just call it out. I'll be like, are you trying to say this? Yeah Like if that's what you're trying to say, like we can discuss this and then she'll deny it deny it deny it And then we're done and I just keep doing that because I think if you're Afraid of saying something straight to someone so you do it in kind of a little sideways way Well, there's no mal intent with it.   Yeah, you probably figure all of my now Did you guys see the news on the the new line of coke zero that's coming out what new what's going on that coke zero? Excuse me diet coke their whole new line. Yeah So there's I've seen the commercials for it. There's a new type of artificial sweetener that I've not I'm not familiar with have you heard of ace k Ace k. Yeah, that's been around for a while. It has it was approved back in 1988 They're so funny, but you know why they're doing that. Yeah, because it actually derived from a plant or is this Chemically, so this is something look it up. It's called ace k It's something that in the past they would pair it with aspartame and so this holding like so since 2005 diet coke sales has been on a rapid Uh decline so it's lost like 300 or 39 percent in the market space And last year I think it dropped another 1.6 or 2 percent Since the the previous year in sales And so, you know, they're kind of scrambling on okay This diet coke was supposed to be the answer to those whole obesity epidemic that we have going on We are supposed to be able to market to people But they couldn't it just goes to show you the consumer is becoming so savvy And people are weary of this is this is what they do. So what they'll do is People will start to information will come out Sometimes it's accurate. Sometimes it isn't whatever so we're not even debating that although we can Debate the the the potential negatives and benefits or what. Oh, yeah It's it's very known that we don't have any proof that this is healthy long term. Well, I mean, I'm not Obviously we don't support artificial sweeteners, but That's beside the point what they'll do is information will come out the consumer base will say We don't like artificial sweeteners So then what a manufacturer will do is Take away the one you recognize and replace it with another one. Yeah, there you go. So aspartame Bad, okay. So let's let's just use this one.  This is good. So this happened in the supplement industry already a while ago Long time ago in the supplement industry protein powders and stuff when we were Buying them were sweetened by aspartame And then aspartame in the fitness industry became demonized A long time ago. I don't know if you guys even remember this, but it was We were relatively young But I remember distinctly because I've been buying supplements on my own since I was 15 years old Right? I go to the store and whatever and I remember distinctly going to God it was called. Do you guys ever been to that supplement store in san jose the beehive or whatever? Yeah, yeah, okay. It's like one of the oldest supplement stores by almadin Yeah, one of the oldest ones in san jose, right? So I remember going there at the age of 15 or 16 like riding my bike there to buy protein And the guy and I'd say oh what protein powder and the guy would be like Do you want aspartame or aspartame free? And I was like I don't I really don't care and then there's a lady next to me Who was there buying supplements and she was in she was older But at the time let's see if I was six she's probably 30, but she looked older to me right because I was a kid And she's like, oh, no, no, no, you don't want aspartame aspartame is bad for you this that and the other It's a bad artificial sweetener. So I said, okay, get me the one without it and what it had instead was sucralose So what the supplement industry did a long time ago is replace aspartame with sucralose Although we know sucralose has a negative effect on gut microbiome and all these other things as well But that's just what they do. So now The mainstream You know sweetener market it sounds like because if coke makes that move Then everybody else is gonna follow. Oh, no, that's why I was I was interested because I was not familiar with ace k I've never I'd actually never heard anybody market that and I was not familiar with that at all And it's it claims to be 200 times sweeter than aspartame. So It's supposed to be a a super artificial sweetener that diet coke is now going to launch So be interesting to see they I think it actually might even be Dare I say worse than aspartame? Yeah Have you seen have you seen the actual ads for it now like where they're like, yeah, yeah So they they highlight I drink a diet coke because I can do you guys remember? I don't was it our show or somebody else is where I brought this up Like I totally thought that that would be the like I think the future Of advertising on shit that's bad is not that these guys will turn their ships, but they'll just call it as it is Yeah, like ah, we don't live yolo.  Check this out. This is on medical news. This is an actual medical website So usually medical websites are very safe and kind of like fda regulated type of stuff like oh fda regulated therefore it's safe No, it's actually there's some evidence that Long-term exposure causes cancer and definitely not good For pregnant women So they they may have traded out aspartame for something worse something even worse Ha, of course this this scary and sad part is they don't give a fuck I mean the strategy is like you said so big is to just you know, play the play the charades game right by Okay, well, yeah, everyone's tired of aspartame Let's get a name that they've never heard before and that's been approved since 1988 We have to worry about it. It just strikes me as odd that it's been approved since 88 But nobody else was really using it as much and now all of a sudden we're going to like that in itself Should be like kind of like a huh? Yeah, it's been around since then Why were we using aspartame before and not that but now that everybody knows that aspartame is bad for you And so they're scared of that word now. We put this other one in there That just seems weird to me. It seems like why weren't we using that before if it's so great, right? It's because people people aren't necessarily Knowledgeable and informed what they hear is the aspartame. Yeah, that's it. No, totally That's I'm trying to talk to the consumer right now.  It'll be this highly processed Natural can you reader do you think you can you produce stevia even further down you think? Oh, yeah, there's uh, there is there is a product. I can't remember the name of it that that's from stevia that is basically You know just because it came from that, you know natural. I'm gonna look it up right now super concentrated I did not know that I didn't know that you could concentrate it any more than what it was in this little powdered sugar form Yeah, it's called uh, let's see what it's called reb a Rebed diocide that sounds bad. Yeah, this sounds sounds like cancer. Yeah, like straight poison It sounds like cancer to me. Cool. Not good. So you guys ready for some uh, some some current events current events daily pump time Here it is. So, uh, I'm gonna read an article. I'm gonna read a title to you. Yeah, and um Your job well after I read this is to not Be disgusted. Oh god with what are you bringing to us, bro? Be disgusted with the current state of men In society here we go. Okay ready?  Just taking it out. No more grenades.   There's three feet a meter. So our studio right here is about uh I don't know. I would say 40 yards. So that's a hundred and You know 120 feet right there, right? So it's less than the whole length of this They can't throw a grenade that far. Yeah, you said how many feet is it feeder? No 20 to 30 meters Okay, 23. So that's 90 feet. So it's 90 feet roughly Is it so 90 to 100 feet? But even then that's not very far, bro Let me I'm gonna look up 25 meters to feet. I want to be sure because that's it's there's There's three feet in a meter. Yeah, god damn. That's Your it's 82 feet. Yeah, this is that's what's going on here. Yeah, that's not very far. No, that's that's insane So anyway, uh, so there's two things here that I think we should talk about one Why can't we throw grenades as far what yeah, what the fuck? Is going on here. Yeah, they just didn't learn how to even throw anything It's either that or they're just weak sauce or you're probably both, right? and be Why is the military reducing its standards? Yeah, like I don't I don't know how I feel about that You know what I'm saying? Well, they need recruits. And so it seems like this big compromise.  No, you're gonna have to conform Right. We're at a point right now. We don't even care if these people have any fighting on whatsoever If you're willing to sign up, we'll take you. Oh, yeah, you man.  You can't throw a grenade Send you over to the xbox section.  You have to bring it up this week You're with him. I think this week and he interviewed this week. So make sure you bring that I'm gonna bring that up Yeah, so I don't know what to do. Oh my god. That's that's sad. Well, it's just uh, it says, let's see Uh, yeah, just lacking the physical ability So this is so according to general to major general Malcolm frost the commanding general of the u.s. Army center of Initial military training what we have found is It is taking far far too much time It's taking three to four times as much time just to qualify folks on the hand grenade course Then we had designates. So what is happening is it is taken away from other aspects of training Wow That feels to me like if you go into the military Of all of the things that they're going to teach you to or train you to do They're like, okay, you need to be able to operate like shoot this gun and hit this target You got to be able to like know how to cover people, you know, all these stuff like all these things Difficulty wise I feel like throwing a grenade It's got to be one of the easier ones. Doesn't it feel like that? Like that's the easiest thing Oh, yeah, here throw this over there. You're done. Cool. Next next thing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right? Wow Crazy it's sad man. The physicality is going away.  It's all blended together molding into to one, you know, amoeba.  I'm not sure which one goes, you know, at least we can bang ourselves. Oh, you went there Something like that Something like that. Uh, so More current event.  So I just get so angry like so we talked about the tide pod thing and that being a thing Well, this isn't thankfully this isn't a thing but some youtube channel.  Look this up. I gotta see this He okay. Let me back up here. Yeah a microwave Obviously a portable one right so he was like trying to mold it to something And so he decided to use a microwave and What he didn't know is like microwaves they like weld these parts together So was his was so what he was trying to do it sounds like was make like a clay Like thing of his head right like yeah, and so he thought cement would be a good idea cement.  The guy could barely breathe once it hardened up like it. Can I just say something right now? That's a lie. That's a total lie. He doesn't fear for his life.  Yes. I have two sides of me that think there's two sides of me on this one side is Don't give them any attention because Then more people are gonna do this stuff and then the other side of me is Give them lots of attention so that these people can Can get themselves out of the breeding You know population Yeah, you know, I mean like because back in the day, let's be honest back in the day If you did stupid stuff like that.  Yeah a long time ago. You gotta rock that cement head buddy. Yeah, your caveman buddies would have been like well Uh, I don't have the time or the energy to help you and you did this to yourself. So we're gonna be over your hunting. Good luck Yeah, good luck, you know, we'll feed you yogurt through that straw.  All I'm saying is you and I touch maybe we need to thin the herd a little bit Getting the herds on a bad idea.    Did you guys have a friend? I feel like every group of guys has a friend that does these things. Yeah, did you guys have that? Okay? So here's my here's my question for you because I've this is my own personal anecdote my own personal experience I've known several guys like this growing up. Um, you know that were part of my group several of them And all of them ended up Um Depressed or just not good like as we became adults They either ended up alcoholics or You know having trouble with drugs or just their life didn't work out for them And so I started to develop a theory that When people are doing these crazy things they're trying to almost seek attention Seek attention and get value from people. Yeah, and it stops working after a while Then they don't know how to get the value. Yeah, and it's like they're not addressing I mean With your friends that you guys knew that were like that did they end up the same way? Or is that just my experience? You know, I don't know where my buddy is at that was like that I'm thinking of a guy in high school who used to he used to do this. I remember him eating a horse turd one time in a biscuit I remember him eating Yeah, a pile of ants a dollar an ant he did I remember him.  Oh, it's like why you know It's funny. We were talking about low-testosterone. Like this is maybe this is why because Because girls don't do this.  Why would I do that? This is first for sure a guy thing Like we for sure doesn't make any sense and you know what makes sense like that I think it's a little bit of that right. It's a little bit of both right. It's like seeking attention Plus the macho thing. It's a little bit of a combination of everything. No doubt. I agree with you that Um, you know, some of these these guys that were doing this when we were younger We're we're obviously seeking attention because they weren't either getting it at home or from other people or whatever And so But I also think there there might be girls don't seek attention like that You know, I mean they do different things. Okay, so explain that that said I got one more for you guys Okay, explain this. All right. So this guy this guy in working out in a gym in germany he uh Basically got his dick Stuck in a five and a half pound weight Like in it in it.  He had it.  Hold on. Look at this thing and then they had to smash it apart and everything But hold on a second. Is it a standard size or Olympic size? Because that makes a difference Sounds like I'm done it with a standard size, but I I can't make the Olympic size because if it's Olympic size and and he broke it on his own Hey, yeah Three hours using the grinder So so trip so this is the thing like we say Wait, wait, wait. Hold on back up to this story real quick here because I gotta know more information here because Does this guy It's at a gym, right? So I'm imagining like a 24-hour fitness He goes and gets the plate then takes it to the bathroom. Is that how this went down?  Yeah, he didn't get into those details. Yeah Maybe he was doing exercises. Is young boy or old? I don't know.  I think it was an older guy You know what adam? I wish you were I wish you were lying.  I think every 17 year old boy a cross but a weight But a weight just because there's a hole in a gym like at least I'm prepared. I bring the weight home. I got my back There's bacteria. I got my vaseline. I clean it first. I wish I would clean it I would yeah, I would clean it first and then I'd have my vaseline. I would be prepared for what could happen You know I'm saying like you're not totally stupid. I had a friend I had a friend once Put a condom on when I was like responsible Do you guys remember when you like when you reach the age when it was no longer a secret?  I don't know what they're called So I'm gonna try and explain it or describe it. They're made out of plastic and they're like a it's like a tube But they're filled with water and in like they slip out of your hand because they roll so quick Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember this. Okay, so I didn't they they made the flesh light to look just like a water Yeah, it was like kind of watery. I remember. Yeah, you know exactly right. You can do this with your finger And I totally remember I had a buddy that uh, he was like raving about how great it was Bang his thing this is his toy. Yeah, so I just couldn't find one. I was like, I'm gonna buy one Probably the founder of flesh light. Here's the thing. Okay when people say there's no differences between men and women There's your evidence right there because yeah, you're gonna bang away in no dude.  I don't have to tell you if it's a guy or a girl You would know. Yeah, I'm not right away. If it was a woman Do you know how like much news it would make? Everybody's like a woman did that?  And it just it's just careless. Yeah, it's just it goes against what we we say about men being logical though That's what's weird on the extreme ends, right? So like prison Dominated by men by far like men break rules or break the law. They hurt people.  So I don't know you get and you know what it's because we're expendable We're much more expendable than women are like you could have a society of Very few men and a lot of women and that society's gonna do just fine The reverse you're just fine.  Anyway, so, uh, I know we've been on a path of third rail dancing Oh god, you're gonna keep going this way One just a little bit is this is our goal right here a little one if I know To keep pushing pushing the limits until finally we have a revolt. It's current it's current news Oh, what happened? It's you know, since we're trying to cover current events. I don't I don't want to gloss over something That's like huge dominating social media. What's going on right now? Well, you know, the the terrible terrible tragedy Oh, I know you're going. Wow.  Yeah, where there's Tina rice brought that up with Sounded. Yeah, she did.  Yeah, and of course this always triggers a gun control debate in this country and It's For me personally It's and I understand why people would go there because it's the tool That was used for a terrible event. Although we don't necessarily do that when other Things happen with other tools, you know, like there were several mass killings in Europe there were a couple in the uk and france where someone got in a car and just ran a shit ton of people over and Knives and you know in china there was there was a guy that killed 30 people with a knife attack in 2015 and people don't typically You know Talk about those types of things like like oh, let's ban cars or let's ban knives Or even swimming pools which kills more kids You know every month and kids can die from you know cars or from excuse me from guns But we do tend to but I do understand why right because guns are You know, not everybody owns one most people A lot of people I should say not most people a lot of people aren't comfortable around them Just like if if a lot of people never drove a car and they read the statistics I think they would be uncomfortable around cars too, right? Imagine imagine if we just back into you know, horse and carriage day, right?  I have friends who are very pro gun control and then I have friends that are very uh Happy with the way the laws are now and are very staunch supporters of the second amendment Um, and I'm a obviously pro liberty individual and I on a moral level I do believe that humans have a right to defend themselves And I don't think that should be infringed upon just because from a moral you could say whatever you want with it Maybe it's dogmatic, but it is something that I I firmly believe morally speaking Is somebody's you know, god-given or whatever you want to call it, uh, right or liberty But that being said, I also like to get into this discussion and talk Pragmatism because uh, I I don't want to be dogmatic. I want to be realistic I want to be pragmatic and the only way to do that the only way to do that is if we eliminate Or try to it's not it's impossible right but eliminate emotion from the conversation Try not to be charged about it and just look at the numbers And look at the pragmatism of what is being proposed As a solution with new gun laws and see and let's just do that and see What makes sense not what feels good, but rather what makes sense because laws that are based on intention And not on result or are usually end up terribly or When we have a problem, but we don't fully understand the problem So then we try to create a solution for something we don't understand and I can say confidently 100 percent right now And I'll debate anybody with this The problem of a 17 year old kid or a random individual Going into a school And killing innocent children or people and then killing themselves, which is usually what happens although it didn't happen this time It's usually what happens That is clearly far more complex Than they're just being accessed to guns To me It's a very complex there's a ton of variables that come with that I know Christina was trying to get us to talk about that and the possibilities of it having to do with nutrition And what's going on with our food mental health. Yeah mental health and You know, I I don't agree nor disagree with that that theory. I don't but I 100 don't believe it's one thing I don't think there's one thing that is causing these people to it Now we want to point the finger at the gun because The gun obviously is the tool that was used for that But I don't think guns would eliminate evil and I don't think guns would do that at all And this is coming from somebody who my father took his life with a gun So if guns didn't exist, I'd still have a father technically, right? That's what you know That's what they would have you believe right that right if they didn't have if he didn't have a gun Then he's not going to do it. Although although I disagree with yeah, I feel like if you really want to do that I think I think when you do things that extreme whether you're taking your own life or you're taking I think the tool doesn't matter I think exactly. I think the tool it's a reductionist like mentality I want to like I want to figure this out like what's the culprit What's the one thing and it's like these guys said I I just don't feel like it's one thing Well, so when you so what I've done is I've dived in pretty deep and I did this After Columbine remember Columbine that whole deal with the kids that went in and it was terrible, right? And I was young at the time I was in my 20s and it was shocking to me And so I dove deep into these situations and like why like what's going on like Like, you know people like to say they're just crazy, right?  And there's a lot of crazy people. Why do some people do something like that? Well The Columbine killers actually wrote considerably Considerable amounts of text about how they felt and why they did what they did And I think it makes sense when you're trying to figure out why To listen to the reasons that they give you Not saying there's an excuse or anything like that, but I think you're gonna get more insight like well What did they write? I don't understand why we don't we don't handle this the same way that we handle successful Robberies of a bank a lot of people don't know that like 50 percent of bank robbers are actually successful And that's because they won't put it on the news They don't talk about it and that's because they don't want to promote more banks being robbed by letting people know that Well, then they actually catch them they use them right you catch other bank robbers because it's like You know, they don't know or they publicize those ones, right? So I I don't understand why we do this with like a mass murder like this not to say that You know, we should just keep everybody in the dark and not tell anybody but the same time too Like when something like this happens all of a sudden we put it all over the news And then I feel like you get these other kids that want a copycat So I don't know if you realize how much truth there is in what you're saying So Psychologists, they've already known this is actual statistic the the more that these things happen The more likely they are to happen and psychologists will say that If you're an individual who is in the state of mind, which i'm going to get into in just a second of what they think Of someone who would do something like this That um a push a slight nudge in a particular direction is sometimes all that they need And so if you're on the edge or you're in the state of mind And then you see something on the tv It you it tends to happen more often because they'll see it and then it not necessarily that they want fame Although that can be part of it More I think and what they say is it's just In they feel something and so what I was going to get at is These people when they write about what they did or why they did it it is Uh, it is a sense of nihilism. It is extreme meaning Listeness Like There's anger. There's hatred. There's sadness and despair And then there's nothing Where you literally feel Nothing and that nothing space Is actually the most dangerous state of mind For anybody to be in and I so I used to train a psychiatrist and we got on the topic of suicide once And we were talking about at depth because There was a local surgeon Remember I used to train a lot of doctors and surgeons There was a local surgeon.  He hung himself At a park. I think it was And I was talking to the psychiatrist so this psychiatrist client of mine who didn't know him but knew of him And I'm like what you know, he's a father like how could you because it's so hard for me to understand Of course, I can't understand not in the state of mind, right? Like why would someone do that? And she goes You know, it's not When when someone's at their lowest point Like sad sad sad That's typically not when they do something like this because when you're that sad you don't even have the energy Like you just you just want to lay there like you didn't have the energy to do anything And it's it's when you're coming out of it That you find the motivation or she's like when people feel nothing Where they literally feel so numb and disconnected that it becomes a living hell And that that everything is meaningless like what's the point? What's the point? I've heard a lot of Anti-depressants can like well some speculate that that could get you in that sort of state of mind. So that's a side effect it's actually a side effect of of certain anti and One thing that all these killers have had in common is they've all been on powerful You know Anti psychotic or psychotropic type drugs like anti-depressants now. I'm not blaming them Not blaming because it could also be one. It could also be this one factor It could also be right. I think the effect of the fact that I think blaming that is just as bad as blaming the gun Right. Yeah, it could be that they why are they on them? Well, they because they have these terrible mental issues not that those cause them But you're right Justin that is a side effect and there are some interesting statistics to show that suicide does increase Or or you have to watch out for among kids who you put on anti-depressants In fact, they'll tell you hey watch out for these signs during the transition period when the person Is going through these so what happens in these in this state of mind where you feel nothing is if you start to hate life Because of it if you start to hate the people around you if your People are mean to you or your life has been tough for you And you've had a terrible because let's be honest life is hard for everybody There's everybody has challenges in life But some of us have it a lot harder For whatever reason and sometimes it's not as easy as looking at that person and saying oh that person has a Tough life sometimes it looks like they have everything but in reality there's a lot of challenges going on So now these people develop that's just a severe hatred For life and no value for it. It doesn't mean it's meaningless and I hate it So what I'm going to do is just take out as much of it as possible and take myself out And that is the state of mind that you're dealing with when we're talking about this now I personally don't think it's it's a gun issue and here's why I don't think it's a gun issue And I don't like comparing the u.s. To other countries because That is you can't you can't compare this country to other countries because we already have too many guns in circulation We're unique. Yeah, it's a unique country. You're right adam. We've had guns since day one. It's in our constitution It's the second. It's not the first amendment, but it's the second hand has been opened It's there. We have more guns in circulation than people period end of story Um, they're already out there and those are legal guns, by the way We don't know how many illegal guns are out there. Well, look at look at us, you know Taking marijuana to a schedule one what that did.  Yeah, it'd be impossible to get rid of Not only get rid of all of them It'd be impossible to get rid of even most of them I mean you most of them would still exist out in circulation only now You drive the price up and then now you create a black market without us getting into some kind of martial law State where they come and they they take all your shit And that's that's it and even and even tell me that's a good idea Well, and even then that wouldn't that would not solve the black market that would just drive it even more because if they even got No, it just gives the government way more power You know that people that have Tons of guns and found out martial law happen would be burying those guns for later And then you'd be turning around and selling them for a hundred thousand dollars a gun because they're so valuable It would not work the work because I've actually and a lot of people say no We don't want to ban all guns, but I have heard people be like ban them all take them by force That's stupid worst The worst thing you could possibly do would be that for many reasons.  None of that's happening.  We were in that police state. By the way, doesn't go away It's not like they'd be like, okay, we got all the guns. Let's cool Let's dissolve this police. Just like there's no more patriot act right exactly.    Do you remember what you know? He wants here's the thing like I hear a lot of people saying we want reasonable gun control laws, but My question to them is like, okay. What do you mean? What is reasonable? Oh, we want, um, you know More background checks or we want to take them and it's like we we can take them from people There's just due process because it is protected by the from the constitution. I've heard people say maybe we should have a um, what's it called when something like a restraining order type of thing where If people closest to you report you then the government then the police can come and do a restraining order While they review the case to get You know the the judge involved now we're gonna get neighbors knocking on neighbors Yeah, and that's got its own issues right and then the other thing is here's the other statistic This is a fact by the way The last three decades We have seen not just america by the way all western nations all western nations have seen dramatic decreases In total violence Including gun violence. So the u.s. Today has less total gun violence total violence total murders Then it did 30 years ago and yet their gun ownership today is far higher Than it was then there's way more guns in circulation today than there was 30 years ago And and but this is a trend across the world because I'll have people being like Oh australia had a you know a mass shooting then they banned guns and they haven't had one since Well, they follow the same trend all the other countries have So Was that part of it or is it that and then here's the other question Are people not having mass murders in other countries because they don't have guns So in other words if we just gave people guns if if guns were accessible In other countries, does that mean that then they would do all this as well? And I don't know if I believe that I seriously think there's in a cultural issue Yeah in this country and I think it's a mental issue I've heard a lot of speakers sort of speculate on this and have opinions and as far as it even being somewhat related to You know the way that we have so like suburb structure and like the way that you Live like adjacent to your neighbors, but you never have any Interaction with them and so these interactions person to person Are just less and less frequent and it builds this sort of disconnect with You know that that sort of positive Interaction that you're supposed to have that like that connection you're supposed to have with other human beings You start to lose empathy and You know this could kind of spiral if you already have a mental condition Well, the vast majority of gun violence happens in heavily populated metropolitan areas the vast by the way vast majority like 80 85 percent I think of all deaths due to guns happen by hand guns And if you take out suicide which suicide is you know the victim is the own person So it's their own cells But if you take out suicide and you take out metropolitan areas We are quite comparable to other countries and we do have more metropolitan areas With more density of population than other countries were a massive country So you take those things out and we're very comparable But hand guns make up a majority the vast majority of gun violence and gun death I don't ever hear anybody say ban handguns and that's because They're not nearly as scary as an ar-15 or whatever rifle and that's that's where it's coming from I just think it's it's way more complex. That's why I hate politics man We're always playing on people's emotions like very few and I feel like very few people know how to look Beyond whatever the new law is going to be and like what is the domino effect if we put this in place like They're putting out this in the news to obviously Play into your emotions so that we can potentially pass some new law new legislation that comes out But yet none of you have this ability to really think okay Well, what does that because everything everything has a cause and effect So when we decide that okay, we're going to come out with this new law or new new rule Think of all the positive things and also think of all the negative things that that potentially could cause And then weigh out your decision versus like guns are bad get rid of them like wait a second That's so idiot.  If you did that, you know, I just don't think so, you know what else nobody talks about the Number of people that save their own lives because they had a gun It's in the thousands. Yeah every year.  Men are more aggressive. I us. We've never experienced that right?  They can hold you down. They can do whatever they want to you the great equalizer is The bear the right to bear arms and some of the most ardent supporters of it Are women who are like, hey, look I got raped or I got mugged I went and got I you know, I got you know my concealed carry license And now I feel confident and safe Because I can defend myself because a cop can't be there Yeah, you know in the next in like 10 minutes three seconds And the other thing too is you know people like oh, it's it's outdated You know, let's take it from the from the you know the the bill of rights And you can do that you can try doing that it would require it's very difficult You would need a majority of uh, you know the congress and then you'd need a majority of the states to ratify it And then you'd have to it would be a very difficult process But you can amend the constitution it can happen a highly highly doubt That it would ever pass but that would be the way to do it I wouldn't be happy if it happened that way But hey, you know that's that's the way our constitution works, but we have to wonder why why did why was that the second Thing in our constitution.  Yeah tyrannizing everybody Why did they even put it in there?  It wouldn't be worth the fight They wouldn't know it would never it would never work out casualties. The first step would be to disarm the populist.   So you ever get pulled over with that mug?  So what's in your coffee? It's pretty aggressive.  We I'm drinking the um, I'm drinking my normal coffee, but Katrina found a little hack So she doesn't like coffee, right? So She doesn't but yeah, so but about a year ago. Yeah, she doesn't drink coffee And about she's like, what is it with coffee? Why does everyone drink coffee?  I said you probably don't need it I think you're a very productive person without it.  She's a tea drinker. Oh, okay So she's so she knows that's so funny coming from the guy that got us all hooked on speed I know right entire staff. Right Yeah, exactly So uh, so anyway, she's been trying to make all these concoctions Well, she she's like, hey, have you done the cacao bliss in the coffee yet? Oh my god It's so good and I hadn't yet and so she takes the she takes a normal cup of coffee pours a cup of coffee Leaves a little some room puts the scoop in and then we have one of those frothers You know and then she just whips it and kind of frost it. How good is it? Oh my goodness So that's what I'm slipping on that warning though because cacao has got its own stimulant properties You mix the two and you are fire.  I can't believe how much you guys can drink It's like water. I'm jealous by the way. I can only do it once today I go cacao bliss and then I do the gold juice because the gold juice has got some Compounds in there that help Calm you. So I do that and oh and then the turmeric in there to just have that effect last longer together. Yes So cacao bliss with the green just don't want to do anything with it. Yes. Really so Fucking I feel like I feel like one of them's kind of got like this like Citrusy orange taste and then the other ones are more of a chocolatey cream No, I go cacao. They're both good by themselves with coffee. So whatever you want to do Uh, typically I just do gold with my coffee because I like that it takes the edge off But it makes me feel you know, I still focused but then I've done it with cacao Gold juice and then I did the typical butter coconut oil Sounds like which is interesting that even pete's now has has done this like sort of a gold Latte where they have turmeric and ginger. I know and it's a thing I guess it's a thing and you just you just like made that up on your own And if you have a gut issues and coffee sometimes can be harsh because of the oils The turmeric and the gold juice from you know, Organifi or whatever is anti-inflammatory Better in your stomach big time big time.  I don't think do we ever share how many supplements people send us? No, we do get a lot. We have a closet full of we could open up a gnc In fact, we're gonna do side business where we sell you should see sounds eyes every time we get them Oh, I gotta hide them half the time we got so many supplements. He's a supplement junkie, bro I know I think the audience needs to know this like he gets a little bit of a handshake I do have especially the packages is all I catch you I catch every down Then I go in the in the closet and there's like one missing there's wrappers on the floor So I was like Sal is in here. Do you test everything right? So sometimes I test them all at the same time So I don't know what's happening, but uh the They sent us all all these people send us stuff And I'm not just saying this because we're sponsored by Organifi and I'm sure you guys will agree The taste and quality of the Organifi supplements is oh, it's superior. Totally. Yeah, totally superior. I know totally superior That's why I mean and some people are you know, they worry a little bit because it's a bit expensive But we've said that from the very beginning you get what you pay for the great You know the best quality I've had one warning though about the gold juice So yesterday I made it myself a nice gold juice in macadamia nut milk and I took it upstairs Spilled some on the carpet. Uh-oh in your new place. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, no stained it. Like you can't believe Oh, no Did you try you try to spill it? I have a little steam cleaner.  So good luck. Yeah Is that true? You know what you do?  Yes I didn't I didn't know that. Oh, wow because it's ability to stain things the more you know Yeah This clause brought to you by Organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge Try Organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20 off at checkout First question is from breno fit is frc the future of fitness That's a that's a that's a bold question very bold statements here. So we had frc here Uh, uh recently teaching a certification. They had 88 trainers in our facility and jessica my girlfriend took the course and One of the things, uh, I love most about her is she's a Legit sponge like for reals. So check this you guys are gonna love this, right? She took uh, el doha when they were here. She did the check course She went down and did check Then she did frc and by the way when I first started dating jessica she was a decent trainer for her level of experience actually for her level experience. She was really good I say decent because she didn't have like a ton of experience with good trainers But for her the level say tread lightly there for the level of experience She had she was listening no no for the level experience. She had she was really good She just didn't was an she didn't expose to a lot of what's that it just comes in time Yeah, you know so then when we first started dating she would I mean I'd say 50 of our conversations revolved around her asking me questions about correctional exercise fitness muscle adaptation and She's a she's such a sponge that I would tell her something And then the next day I'd hear her talking about it and teaching it and she's saying it exactly Like she understood it. She didn't just memorize it. So she's been that way and I used to tell when we first started dating I said, you know, it's funny.  You just being nice.   She's also been Being mentored by brink. So I know if you guys know that she goes to brink's office And helps them out, you know a couple days a week or once a week and you guys know brink is a He's a legit badass.  Yeah. Yeah So what was her thoughts?  So I told her I said, you know I said If I go too aggressively the place that I tend to hurt is on my left si joint And I can't figure it out But I do think it has to do with My hips my left hip because my left hip doesn't have the same mobility and control as my right hip, especially Internally actually rotating all these other things as an internally in particular internally rotation So she said oh cool.   Yeah, her cues were incredible So she did that with me. Then she's taking me through FRC 90 90 movements stuff that brink had her do this 45 minute treatment or the entire time i'm quiet and i'm just being Completely blown away by her knowledge and I see what she's doing as she's doing it I can tell what she's doing. She was giving me New ranges of motion and she was connecting me to these new ranges of motion Which I think is what she learned at FRC and so I was asking her what how much of this Was what you learned at the FRC course And not all of it, but a nice chunk of it was from the FRC course And then the other part of it was brink and then el doha And uh, I think it's so do you brilliant. I don't think it's a future of fitness I don't know if I go that far this so much. I would Way in on this. Yeah, I'm gonna now you're more you guys are more versed Yeah, well because this has been my my train of thought for over the last couple years just because I've been heavy in the research of like Mobility and I knew that that was the most neglected portion of training, you know in my programming And so that was something I really vested myself into and saw what was out there and went through You know a lot of the protocols and different modalities that were out there and so I knew of FRC for a long time Um, and then I actually did attend, you know for the first day And and got, you know a lot of great great information, you know and their philosophy and so my my my overall Like opinion of it is that it's very Very much ahead of everybody like it's as far as like having You know like scientific based training that's that's really cutting edge and is really kind of you know, uh, they've they've put the time in and and like people that actually do It will see what does that type of stem for again functional range conditioning? So the thought process being that like if you have a normal strength curve where Uh, you know at the peak of of your your strength curve is somewhat in the middle So their thought process is now to stretch point a and point b even further. So you're able to now Um increase that that strength in in elongated through all these different like increments and angles of range of motion So and a lot of what we do in prime pro is Uh comes from you know some stuff that well from FRC, but yeah, go ahead. Okay. So so that being all said It's it's very revolutionary. It's very very like well researched and the science is sound and and ahead of everybody, but I just don't it being the new What do you say the future of fitness? I think that um, it's gonna be It You know one of the tools that is Going to set people apart, but it's it's not going to take over. Of course. It's not it's not going to take over It's going to benefit your training But like I see people they totally are so into it that it's becoming like their way of training Are you getting a bunch of disciples? Listen. Listen this is go feeds into that whole movement culture It's all it's this always happens man every time Always yeah, here's first of all, okay And I I'm with Justin like I've been very familiar with FRC for quite some time a huge fan of the work The science is is very very much so on point and I do believe the same thing too that their way ahead everybody We utilize tons of kin stretch I am cute positive positive positive nothing negative to say but I will say that I definitely don't think It's the future of fitness and that's because first of all A lot of the science is based off of science that we've known for some time I mean p&f I was using p&f for 15 years, you know, I and and that's the difference between FRC and p&f There's not a lot much not a lot the change of verbiage. Right. So I think that's what they've done a good job I think they've they've branded it better. Yeah, and I think that Obviously, we've evolved more in science since then p&f has been been used in in in athletes for quite some time And I so the science is not that revolutionary. I think the Application. Yes, their application of it is incredible And I think it's needed more now than ever has with all these baby boomers and all this This posture and dysfunction that we're seeing in the younger generation coming up So when that being said I'm a hundred percent I think when you talk about top three certifications, you could go through FRC of 100 percent is Uh, I would recommend because I think it's that that applicable to all the clients that you're probably going to train Now that being said I also see the colt like side of it happening like always.  I'm like, damn, dude I wish I could do that But the there's a couple things that people don't I think really understand is one Just like with bodybuilding just like with sports. There's a genetic potential for some of these people that FRC and you become an instructor and you learn how to do it You just fit the mold so perfect your frame is great for it You can do these fluid movements like in just way better than the average person Naturally already and then they then they turn it into like that's all of their training Their training is all this can stretch. You know if all you cared about was Health and feeling good.  Well, what I really appreciate them is that they've taken like our focus back to joint function and like and Like telling you like, you know, you may not have the capacity To go forward in your training and put load onto these joints because they're not even functioning the way they should be functioning And this is a Very big problem that people just bypass. And so this whole system has done an excellent job of highlighting that important fact that you know, this is where we need to begin and we need to spend time in this area and and address all these pending issues and uh, what else I also appreciated was It's as far as like addressing the human body What we've all been taught like, you know, and especially going through, you know, anatomy physiology forever and like biomechanics and going When I was in college And he they sort of addressed this in the class that we've all learned dead anatomy And we haven't really learned living anatomy.  And so what does that mean? Like a cadaver versus how anatomy works. Absolutely are just looking at it from two dimensions, right? and like so in that being like How everything is, you know, adaptable together.   It's all it's all moldable All of that is adaptable tissue. So Um, you have to treat it as such as you know, you're going through these different movements I'll say this if you're a trainer I've said this before I haven't said in a while actually we've talked about this one when we first started Mind pump if you're a trainer and you want that to be your career And you want to have a lot of value to your clients. Oh, yeah by far By far the best thing you could do To provide value to your client is the following If your clients call you to cancel your workout because they've hurt themselves or because they're in pain That's You have you're not providing a lot of value to them. Okay, that's the average trainer If your client calls you and says Hey, john or you know, susan I I strain my back or my knee hurts Can I come see you later today so you can help me out?  They never stop This is now happening with jessica where her clients will call her if they're hurting and try and come in an additional time Because she's now learned this information FRC is a certification that is well worth Yeah, I agree the investment Yep to give you value as a personal trainer just for that reason alone That's it not because you have FRC in your title But because if someone comes to you and they hurt You've got real tools that can help now in my understanding of our FRC is this and this is just because we wrote prime And I understand how the human body works. I just don't know the structure and you know Particular structure of FRC, but this is what I experienced when she was taking me through the hip stuff What we're trying to do is we're trying to create new ranges of motion and then trying to connect To those new ranges of motion so An example that would be I go in the splits this is by the way that that would be the definition of p&f That's right. That's right. So if I get into like the splits, which is a bad example Let's just mobility Yeah, let's just say I get into the splits and I go in I go down as far as I can and that's as far as I can go What I now try to do is fire the muscles that I'm stretching and then fire the muscles that are I'm opposing and so all I'm trying to do is send a cns signal to The muscles While they're in this new range of motion and I work through new newer and newer ranges of motion And this happened with my hip like my hip cramped up And she told me that's good. Let it cramp up because it's connecting and then stay in that position when you're done connecting Let your body establish that new connection So I think it's brilliant But is anything in a single thing going to be the future? No, no, no and here's the thing if this is a trainer who's asking a question that you got to ask yourself because this was always the challenge that I had as a professional was Having all the information that I that I need to give to get this person to get to their goal But then also recognizing that That may not be the pathway that they want to take or are willing to take And so there is this this challenge as a trainer Okay, I know that I want to give them all this and tell them follow this diet train like this do these things But in reality Over 80 of the people fail at doing that So if you really care about being successful as a trainer and really providing a great service people It's not just having the new cutting-edge science or tool to apply to all them because some people aren't even there yet Some people aren't even beyond the psychological part that's making them have this challenge of not being able to get in shape And to me There's there's more of a breakthrough there that I need to work on to evolve as a trainer than another tool That has helped now. I think like you said Sal By bar none This is one of the best tools that you could potentially have in your belt Especially when you think about baby boomers, especially if you see about all the dysfunction that we're seeing right now But then I also don't think that You know having this is like the answer and you know making all your clients do kin stretch for all their sessions Now is just going to change their lives dramatically. No, I think what you'll see Is you'll apply that to some of them some of them will receive it some of them will do it Well, it will change their life and then you'll still have the majority of them that don't even put the work in Necessary to see the change in their life And so then you're back to square one again as a trainer is how do I get this person motivated to still head in the Right direction. All right. Next question is from tori tag Just listen to episode 646 about women losing their periods and having hormonal issues after an extreme diet and or prep I am curious how to repair this damage I listen and read about this issue all the time But no one ever discusses how to help heal the hormonal issues and metabolic adaptation I'm about three years out from a really low body fat loss of cycle and other hormonal issues I cannot lean down for anything even with a moderate reverse diet. Can you discuss how to get the body back to normal? Yeah, well, well step one you're you're this is this is gonna tough. It's gonna be hard to hear.  We had jason when we had jason philips here Who uh, love the guy right brilliant with with the way he works and coaches clients and Very smart dude and we talked about this and he has a theory that I think I buy I buy into And his theory is that when you do these extreme, you know diet You know contest prep or you know extreme overtraining over periods of time, especially for women Obviously the body it stops giving you a period because it feels like it's not safe to have a child slows down your metabolism to try and adapt and even after You know taking months off or a year off And trying to feed yourself a little bit. He thinks that the central nervous system remembers it remembers that event and it takes A lot longer For the cns. I believe that to say, okay, the coast is clear Which is why I feel like it's so easy to go back to your default even when you're making better decisions or training the body Yeah, yeah, I because I feel like this because in her sentence and I don't know who you are Tori and I don't know what's going on But I can see I'm just based off the last two sentences. I cannot lean down for anything Those are the wrong goals, right? I feel like when you're trying to reverse diet and you're trying to get back to being healthy You have to switch your mindset that it's it's not about you getting lean. It's not about you You know looking assertion. I feel like she's been trying to still get lean, right?  It's actually doing what it's supposed to do So I when I talk to somebody like this and of course again, I don't know this person They're exactly what's going on with them. But we're being completely generic here The average client that I'm dealing with that has metabolic damage The typical prescription is this, you know, two to three times of strength training So like a maps anabolic type of application, that would be the perfect routine Maps anabolic would be perfect, right? So that's the the the application as far as weight training and I don't want you doing any more Weight training than that. So when you have the desire to want to lift more tomorrow. No, we don't Actually, this is a person who I would not recommend right our new program, right?  This is the person that probably wants to buy it They see hit and they see oh Yeah, this burns the most amount of body fat in the shortest period of time Which it does but if you're in the state if your body's in the state and you do hit You're fucked. You're not doing a good job. So you got to go to anabolic Let me go back to what I do with this person So I I first get a program like that in line for them that this is what we're going to be doing for resistance training Then I want you to track For an extended period of time typically I want somebody to be tracking for a few weeks So I can get a really good idea of where their their caloric maintenance is at And then I also want to see where they're kind of their their neat maintenance is at So where how many steps are you taking per day? And where of your calories are at and where where's your baseline? What doesn't what doesn't gain you weight? What doesn't lose you weight? What's kind of keeping you there while you're only doing these two to three days of lifting now from there I try and gradually increase your knee through walking. So need is non-exercise activity, right? So not exercise walking just not a hardcore hike a walk like literally just moving around I try and gradually increase that on your non lifting days While I also gradually increase your calories and the goal Is how much can I continually start to increase those calories? Without you having to increase in any intensity and without you putting on a ton of weight So that's our our goal is we're probably going to put some weight on I'm not worried about that, right? We're not going to get super shredded right now not worried about that's not our goal Our goal is to start to inch these this caloric intake up week over week if we can and our way that we counter it Is just through movement not more exercise not intensity increasing not more volume increasing Just moving activity wise while I'm also started That's how I keep it keep you from putting on a bunch of weight Obviously if I went week over week and increased your calories a hundred to three hundred calories every week You would probably put on a ton of body fat after a few weeks but if I can Counter that extra hundred calories with a few hundred more steps or a thousand steps every single day that you're Increasing those calories. Hopefully I can mitigate the damage of putting on any more weight But that's not the goal the goal is not to lean down And then that's kind of to each person's going to be uniquely different How long I have to inch that up there for them how soon their body will respond But that's how I try and get into my client's heads that are going through this process Is these are our goals what you just heard right now from adam and of course it's different from person to person But what you just heard from him is verbatim The general thing you should do. I mean that's the best advice You could possibly get the trouble is going to be doing it because I know what happens because I can already tell By the way, you asked your question, you know, nobody wants to wait another year Before they can start to get lean, especially when you identify strongly with Being lean or you feel fat or you know those types of things Here's a couple things you could do to help that process So do what adam told you because what i'm about to tell you won't do shit for you Unless you do that stuff also the other stuff you can do is you can start to throw in some adaptogenic type herbs and foods to Help benefit the process like them like them gross sardines that you got over on the So are those still okay? Yeah, they're you can okay.  So would you would you recommend like a ketogenic type of diet? I would not recommend a keto diet unless you have food intolerances with grains and stuff Because you're you're cutting too low now. I think you should go low carb more like a paleo-esque Yeah, like more of a paleo diet actually on thrive thrive market you can I just we just found out that like last week. Yeah, you can actually drop down options There's a drop-down option you can click on paleo and then look at all the food options For paleo, so I would say bump your fat intake and then here's the other thing Which you can also do a thrive market now that we're talking about it ashwagandha Great herb that's adaptogenic that helps balance the body out and here's the other one evening primrose oil Which has been been shown to be beneficial for women Well, what is that? Evening primrose oil. So it's just the fat. Where do you get that? Thrive market. You buy anywhere. Jesus Christ. They have everything. Thrive market's got it So ashwagandha evening primrose oil bump your fats like a paleo type diet and do everything adam said And again, we don't know your individual case. So, you know, bear with us Keep in mind that it is generic advice. But generally that's the best advice Next question is from kevin b. Sherman. What are a good substitute exercise for deadlifts and barbell? Squats I wanted to put this in here because we haven't Answered a question like this in a while. I wrote. Yeah, we used to get this a lot when we the very when we first released maps Obviously, there's deadlifts and squats in there because we're all we all think there's staple movements that everybody should be doing So we get a lot of people pushing back and being like, well, what if I can't do deadlifts and squats? What should I do instead? So it's been a long time since we've addressed this I think we've got quite quite a bit more people listening to mind pump now That we should address this issue and I think starting it off with I don't think that anybody should substitute for deadlifts and barbell squats for the most part There's always exceptions to the rule But the exception is not what most people think it is most people are thinking like, oh, yeah Well, I'm the exception the rule. I have low back issues or I have this going on or I did this surgery or I had this So all right, I had a herniated disc.  Yeah, there there you go.  That's why I wanted to come out the goal should be to be able to do those movements Right and that and that's how I feel about these two exercises is Regardless of your goals weight loss muscle gain athletic performance doesn't matter what it is If you cannot do a barbell squat or deadlift Then I I wouldn't even be following one of our programs to a T I would be using tools from it. For example, like prime pro I would be using it to and prime to get to the point where I can perform a squat and deadlift In fact, my regimen would be built around that would be okay My goal isn't instead of what I my long-term goal is I want to lose 20 pounds of fat or what's the limiting factors, right? Is it the ankle mobility? Is it, uh, you know, your hips internal external rotation, you know Where where do the scrappin C's lie and like what can we address to get you in to feel comfortable with these, uh, gross motor movements Right at the point is if you have chronic pain or you've got this disc So you have all these things that are going on going on the squat and the deadlift Those are functional movements that the body should be capable of doing So not doing them is not the best right now me saying that I'm also not telling you Oh, well adam said that and even though I got a bulge disc.  Okay What we're what you're really doing is you're working on your ability to lift something off the floor or hip hinge or and or your ability to Squat down, uh in in a squat position Both of which are fundamental human movements Both of which if you were not able to do either one of those your quality of life would be considerably reduced Just because daily life requires, you know, those kinds of things So that's why they're so important and that's why your goal is if you can't do them To correct imbalances and get yourself to a point to where you can do them now that being said That all being said the question is what are good substitutes?  They're just like I just want to work my life Right and there's and then they're afraid of the the aches or the pains The reality is if they would just focus on Figuring out why they have dysfunction why they can't squat or why it hurts the squat or deadlift The the effort put towards learning to squat and fixing the issues They're going to get the benefits that they're looking for aesthetically They're going to look so much because because squatting and deadlifting are such big bangs for your buck That thinking that you're going to go do leg press or split lunges or doing all these other exercises that we're talking about as as an You know, uh replacement to that none of them are nothing is going to train your cms It's just that they're looking at the long term now instead of having these like sort of short term things that are driving them This is this is a process, right? You know and it's daunting for a lot of people to be like well I have to address like, you know pain Can I just like jump on and do some leg extension in the meantime?  I you better believe I'm going to go into a squat Knowing that I'm going to be mechanically broken a bit I'm probably going to go back to some default patterns that are not healthy or good for my body And now it'll be work and it'll be boring It'll be tedious But the thing is once you address it and you start working towards it All these other benefits that most these people are chasing will come along with that And I feel so passionate about it because I was also like this I was also somebody who avoided those movements And I'm also somebody who just figured he had low chronic chronic back pain And it was just genetically my and we are I if you look at my family There's extreme lordosis in almost all of my uncle's aunts grandma grandpa my mom It's in our family. We have this excessive curve in comparison to everybody else like naturally I have it So that doesn't mean I'm just fucked But it does mean that I'm pretty I have a predisposition to probably head in that direction To where I'm going to have low back issues And if I follow down the same path as my uncle my mother my grandmother I'm going to end up having back surgery if I don't address it So this is something that I have to put that extra work in to avoid that and it reminds me every time I don't Next question is from Jervin dial Where's the weirdest place you've gotten head? So Where's the weirdest place you've given head? Do you know what this reminds me of this was so you guys ever watch the uh Do you remember that that game show the new leeway game? Yeah Yes, okay. So they don't have it anymore today.  No, no, no. He said where's the I'll tell you right now. He asked me finish. No, that's not what she said That's not what the question was. I know you're going in the butt. Yeah. Yeah That's what so the question was where's the weirdest place you've made whoopie Which means like where's the weirdest place you've had sex right and the girl goes in the bud.  I know that's like cliche, but in real life you cut the hole in the, uh, popcorn box It's like 1950s style tab. She looks like she really wants that popcorn. She's hungry Yeah, why are you biting the extra the extra large tab of popcorn? So needs more butter No, it was a movie theater and it's you know, it sounds cliche you see in the movies But here's the reality of doing shit in movie theater people right next There's a lot of people in there. Yeah, I was gonna say are you you guys have your own like lain to yourself No in the back, uh, in the very back there were people in the theater But it was in the very back and uh, I feel like you have something better than that. I don't know I don't know what's weird. What else? I mean, what I've got. I I something that comes to mind that I know was definitely, uh Because I've the I can check off the the movie theater one also Which that was like we sat in the back and it was it was all right That wasn't like to me. It wasn't as you know, that's that's like that'll get you put like if you get caught doing that You'd be on a list right now. The the weird is that's a big deal Yeah, people still do that the weirdest I had I was it was a new year's party at my house I used to throw these epic new year's parties at my house and uh The night was winding down. It was like midnight or one or so and um, the house is I mean I've got tons of people in my small house. I only had a three bedroom two bath Uh condo and the place was loaded with people. So I've got people Sleeping two on a couch and floor and all over all the rooms and multiple people in my bed And so it's just like a shit show everywhere and My best friend and I are are sleeping in my bed And in comes on my bed in comes well, we're not even sleeping. We're just kind of laying there, right? But we're we're we're on my bed And in comes a couple girls And one of the girls she comes up the bottom of the sheets And literally and I had like basketball shorts on and she draws my shorts down and she just goes to town And I'm like sitting up talking to my buddy at the same time. So we're This is all going on like him and I were mid conversation Don't don't like skip a beat right and we're just we're having conversation and she kind of comes up the sheets And I'm like what I'm going to be cool about it.  I think she what I think she's doing We're gonna stop her right. I think she thinks I'm gonna get nervous and freak out and pull my shorts back up And oh god like that, but I'm being cool and I'm talking to my boy and I'm talking to one.   Did she go the whole distance? Yeah. Yeah the whole while you're with your buddy. Yeah. Yeah That was I did I did while you're talking to your buddy. Yeah, that was what did you say to your buddy? Well, I didn't say much. Did you look at him in the eyes and you're in? Tell us wrong with you That's what I'm thinking. No, like if I was sitting next to Justin I'd be like I can't finish I don't know if it was like his face. He's all sudden. Yeah, man. That's Great. Hey listen tomorrow when we go back to work. We need to get 50 leads. We need to get all these clothes You're like, how do you do that? I don't know. It was more weird. I started twitching I went through with it and I didn't stop her or it's more weird than my buddy stayed there Because I feel like if it was the other way around Oh, yeah, of course it was my we're sitting on top of it We're not we have a sheet kind of over us and we're on the bed and we're kind of sitting up You know and she yeah went in there and so Oh 100% he was fully aware of what was going on I think if the shoe was on the other foot in this case or the mouth was on the other dick here I would have Yeah, that's correct. I would have I would have looked at my buddy and exited the room and been like I see you're busy But I think he was so surprised that it was going down that he wanted to watch and see if this was like really going to happen She's a champion. Yeah, I would I would say that that was probably The first when you said when you said weird I think that you in because mine sounds a lot like a Like a porn, you know this went down, but it was like do tell no But but my roommate didn't know that it was going on So it was more like we had a we had a dorm room That I mean no girls were allowed in the dorms and so I had Oh, not your role. That's the role of school.  Yeah, and then you started messing She thought it was so funny looking up at me and stuff And I was like I was kind of freaking out and like like frozen, you know And my my roommate was asking me all these questions and then He finally left and uh, yeah, we we we finished up. But yeah, I was like it was so awkward. I know I I didn't I didn't know what to do. I I wasn't about to to finish. I don't know how you finished. Yeah public sex is weird No, it's I maybe because I had practice.  No It's just weird. Yeah. Well, that's weird weird stuff Well, it's okay. So I and I and I tell young men that like think about these types of stories, right? That have never had this happen.  And it's more of a cool story It's more of a story and memory right anything else And so once you've done that enough times and you've kind of got through that you realize like this is kind of Stupid because there's no real connection here between these girls. I don't really I it's not even a good orgasm It's halfway weird and awkward Like this isn't as cool as everybody makes it out to be yes So I've seen some crazy stuff like I was at a oh, I like how you do that. Yeah, it was uh, I mean So I'm asking for I'm asking for a friend of mine did this It was crazy guys. So no, I was at a uh god who was performing it was uh It wasn't a rave, but it was that kind of music And I went with at the time I was married So I went with my wife and we were in there and she didn't want to be there And I was like, this is great And so we're having to you know dancing whatever having a good time and it's super packed And then there were like bleachers on the sides because it was I forgot where it was at But you could actually go up and sit in the bleachers And I look and it's there's a lot of kids there I'm obviously way too old to be at one of these things and they're these fucking kids.   Here's another one. I was on a plane And it was a long flight and there was a guy and a girl and the Like kind of a cross from me diagonally so I can kind of see him and he had a blanket over his lap And she had her hands under the blanket and then very so slowly you would see the blanket rise She was giving him the saw that in a park. She was giving him the slowest hand job of all time I'm like, they're gonna be there forever. You better speed it up. This plane flight's gonna land in four hours You don't have that much time. Oh my god. I walked I remember walking like it was a night time And I was walking up through this trail to get to one of my friend's house and it was like It was it went through this like kind of christian campground and there was like This spot that kind of looked over everything and so I was like walking on my way up through there And I heard like bear noises.  That's what I thought. I'm like, what's this guy like making so much noise? I'm pro noise. I'm all pro. I'm pro talking pro noise. I'm pro all that But I like to communicate, but I don't I like her to be I like her to be louder Like I don't want I don't want to be I don't want I don't want to be talking more and louder than you Are and I don't I think most girls don't want that either. I think that's kind of weird when well I think it's weird Yeah Yeah I almost feel like uh, I hate I don't like it when it's too like it's fake. This is like, you know what? This is a great. This is our typical form Our typical forum poll. I'm sure someone will start a good poll on here like how auditory do you like Your partner to be both male and female it'd be talking dirty and how awkward that can get you can find that on the Forum this week. Yeah, that's That's the place to do it. Hey, check it out 30 days of coaching haven't talked about it for a while It's free and it's available at mind pump media dot com. Also. 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