So now we've got the next talk on get issue from the immediate spin Ellis Thank you. Hi. Good morning Why are we here? Why would we want to run get issue? I'll give you six reasons why get issues the best things since sliced bread First of all, it's an issue management system So a bug tracker that doesn't need any sophisticated infrastructure in a system running behind it You don't need a database a server that needs to be specially configured anything like that It's very easy to install as I will show you just clone the repository and you run make Install and there you have it It's decentralized so anybody anywhere in the planet can create an issue can comment on it Can change its status at the milestone not the assign it to somebody and things get merged together in the central repository how does this happen of course it uses it as its backend and As an advantage because it's decentralized is that you can use it anywhere Even if you don't have internet connectivity, so on the plane Read somebody complaining a few days ago that the train that we're on didn't have Wi-Fi You can still get use a get issue and then you push the changes or you pull the changes that have been made It's also transparent. So the files that it uses the structure is Documented and it's available so you can use your favorite tools You can grab through issues you can find and the select them you can apply filters to it You can even use your editor if you are brave enough to change things on the fly in the repository That's absolutely allowed and then you can push the issues back in As you will appreciate it uses a git as a backend So all the goodies we have with git still work here the credentials that you have the server that you are using The commands that you know the many years you invested to learn its arcane interface everything is there to be used Also, it uses the Unix command line tools philosophy If you don't not sure why this is good There is a MOOC that I'll be starting on in March go there in order to find out But the truth is that you can use all the tools that you know on top of the files that it has As an addition as part of the Google summer of code last year We're on the roses did amazing work and integrated into git issue the ability to pull issues from github and GitLab and also put push issues back there to the issue database of these two systems So you can also use git issue in order to transfer Issues from one system to the other or ensure that your issues are in a transparent format that you can use and control on your own Let me give you a brief demo of how it works So to install it you just clone the repository And then you run install as a root user not to copy the files to the system directors Or if you don't have root access you set the prefix to your home directory in order to Install them in your home directory With git issue in it you create a new Repository let's create a new issue you can do the command line by Specifying the subject line or you can use gt issue new and net or will pop up Now you see you have two issues here can use gt issue comment to add the comment on the specific issue again with my editor Or I can't tag it with a specific tag and it tells me that it has tagged it I can't tag another tag here if I now remove a Tag, I can use the minus r option. I can assign it to somebody using again the issue Code as a to identify it Add another watcher here Here I list the specific Issue and now here is the magic. I can add a remote origin to this issue database and now I can use a Push in order to move my changes all upstream Assume now somebody else is using git issue. They can clone this repository and Then the if they list the issues the issues are back at the host that they were using They can create another issue there and create I'm specifying the subject line here and Push the changes back up to that repository that is shared between these two people There's a show command in order to see what an issue contains or a specific Issue here longer one. I can again pull issues from a remote and List and I will see a new issue appearing here in the other host Now let's try the another example. I will now get issues from github issues So I initialize a new issue tracker with github issue in it And now specify that I want to import issues from github using this URL and it imports existing github issue So issues that github is tracking. I can see them here. I Can see a specific issue who's been assigned tags and so on all the things that the github issues support I Can change things see again so add the milestone for example or Change the due date for github. There are some things that github support and some things that github supports. We have the superset of the two I Can close an issue and then I can export the issues back into github issues or github I will need to have the credentials, especially if I want to pull more than a few issues So this is how the system appears in practice Thank you You also get some goodies so sub command auto completion or sha auto completion More goodies you can use the gith commands that you love and know So for example rebase in order to directly change things everything change you made is recorded as a gith commit You can dump an issue in JSON format to process it in another way And there's a log of the issues that are there for help. There is of course a List of all the commands available automatically generated from the source code so that it's always complete and something I consider important. We should all try in our projects and nine page manual proper Unix manual page How does it work internally? I will finish with that so internally what you see is a dot issues Directory and inside it there are templates for the description and comment you can modify it and commitment all your Colleagues will share them and use their own an issues directory and for every issue You have the sha hash which is created through the hash of the git commit that creates the issue So, you know, it's almost impossible to have a duplication here And for every issue you have the description the tags the milestone the comments and other things that are associated with That issue comments is a director and again each comment is associated with the sha hash of the Git commit that created that issue the configuration folder and Details about the import so that you can stay in sync and push and pull the things that are exactly needed from github or GitLab We will hopefully be running Google summer of code again next year So if you have any cool ideas you want to add or if you want to work on perhaps a graphical user interface If you feel too don't feel sure about always using the command line feel free to look for it up and apply This brings me to the end of this presentation. Thank you very much Okay, so we've got a while for questions Is there any git parts git specific part in it? It's written in shell as a shell script full of git commands So you have to go and replace every git command with the corresponding other version controllers Understand the question is if there are git specific parts in it, right? Yes, so it's a heavily get Dependent you would have to add an abstraction layer to interface between different systems but there are text files and they get specific things that are done are Push pull commit so there are few the rest are things that are Available in every system you think you commit files in the structure that I showed Yes, okay, what happens with the conflicts? in general the idea is that they the same thing that happens with With the when you pull data from a repository you get a conflict and you have to resolve it now if you go up streams And you push things up things might get modified with the truth source of truth that you have because a GitHub doesn't have a Way to do this atomically so a proper process would be to pull things from to import the issues again Resolve any conflicts you can do that commit them and then push and hopefully nobody has done that in that small window Yes, right The question is whether we can have the numbers of a github issues I think this is something that can be easily done should be three lines of code It's a very good idea if you put it up in an issue I Huck it in the afternoon. I think you had the two questions, right? How could we automate the github Process so that when things change on github it automatically Mirrored here. I would build on top on it on top of it So at some end point that would and listen for those events and then invoke the command It's not there, but I don't think it should be difficult to do Yes, have a look with that in the case with you or not not yet Yes, I wanted to ask if you will try to push it upstream I mean to get source directly like be part of gith So the question is if I have tried to push it upstream be part of gith if I commune of gith or github Yeah, I mean gith like be part of the gith not just additional thing, but just part of the gith The question is if I have tried to push it upstream to gith no I haven't because the plug-in interface of gith is beautiful Maybe I should it's an interesting idea. Yeah, so please try to push it upstream Okay, thank you for the suggestion if anyone wants to share experience of how to do that please talk to me Hi, how does it compare to bugs everywhere? How's it does it compare to bugs? Everywhere I have a list of at the end of the read me file I've a list it's bus bugs everywhere is another system that works in the same way There have found another five systems around the same idea at the end of the read me file I have short one liners that have the comparisons. I don't remember exactly for each system how it compares of the top of my head Yes, is there a way to close an issue by a commit message or without a commit hook again in Git issue to issue another git command that would close the issue So it's a hook plus issuing the two commands that would close the issue when it grabs for the issue number So you don't have precrafted hook to put it. It's not precrafted now It means I will have to have to create a plug-in mechanism for gith issue but it's an interesting idea and very I'm very encouraged with all these ideas and things that can be built on top of it That's a beauty of Unix tools and the Unix philosophy any other questions. Thank you very much again


All right Lou, I want to see if I can get you to revisit a younger time in your life, an older time in your life. Can you tell me about your earliest experiences with expressing yourself as an artist? I was very fortunate man, I got to say that early on, and I'm directing more now, I just did A Fear of the Walking Dead, I directed an episode of my show Longmire, I'm writing more, I'm getting back to that, but early on when I was in high school and in college, I did a lot of writing, I did a lot of directing, I look at it as different branches of the same creative tree, you know, being a storyteller, being a communicator, it's just that acting for me took off and those other things kind of, you know, got put off to the side for a little bit, but now I'm getting back to actually doing some writing and getting behind the camera and working with actors and telling stories in different ways. You know man, it's interesting because like the very first play I ever did was in the sixth grade and I co-wrote it, we basically ripped off Charles Shelton, did a take off on Peanuts when I was in the Philippines and being on stage and getting a lot of laughs man, you know, that's where the bug bit, you know, and it's like wow, I've made people laugh, I've entertained people, I've made them happy and then throughout high school I grew up in Texas for the most part, we did a thing called the University Interscholastic League and I would compete, you know, in acting and I was winning awards. So obviously I was getting this great support, this great feedback that I was good at this and that is what eventually, you know, led me to believe that I could do it for a living, that, you know, I enjoyed it so much as something that I was really gratified doing and it made other people happy. So I think that's the thing, you know, if you've got kids or if you yourself, you know, want to get into the industry, you want to express yourself either through acting or dance or writing or whatever it is, you need that support, you need people to encourage you and to give you a platform where you feel safe to, you know, to try because it's tough, it's a really hard business and you're going to fall on your face and there's a lot of rejection. So you have to have somebody, anybody around you to go know it, you're good, you can do this, you can get better and then you can soar. This is a more philosophical question.  I got, you know, people would talk a lot about it, about me spending all my time at the theater. Now I don't regret it, I love spending my time at the movies. So, you know, movies and television, they had a real positive influence on me. While I watch a lot of people who could have been mentors or peers or people I look up to, like I watched a lot of them, you know, mess up. So for me, my next question is, how do you feel about the influence that, that art and the stories, you know, have on people? You know, I think we're entering a phase in this country, thank God, where there is more representation, you know, there's more inclusion. Young people are looking up on the screens or they're looking at their television sets or they're buying music from people who are like them.   You know, we need positive role models out there.   All of these things are extremely important and this is what art is supposed to teach us. I mean, we're going through a lot of turmoil in this country right now and people say, well, you know what, actors should just shut up or, you know, basketball players should just dribble. It's like, no, it's our job to reflect society. It's our job to examine what's going on in our world and what is happening in the human condition and to reflect that and to if things are wrong, fight for change. So it's not just, you know, playing make-believe. There's a definite life behind it and a definite philosophy, if you will. Speaking of the change, this movie still affects people. It's 30 years old. My man, I love him, you know, Edward James Olmos. We've affected a lot of lives and a lot of teachers have used it as a teaching tool. You know, I was actually very, very proud. I remember like back in the 90s, I was doing a seminar at the New York Film Academy in Manhattan and a young Puerto Rican actress stood up and she goes, you know, for the first time when I saw standing in the liver, I saw people who looked like me up on the screen and she felt like she could do it and then she was there at the New York Film Academy to learn acting.


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Rydym ychydig yn cyfwiliad, of money on this stock so I would consider taking some profit so I'm not saying sell out all of your stock on this but take some profits on this okay secure some of your gains okay that's what I would consider doing again this stock may run up even further but that's what I'm doing personally but again it's up to you okay so on to the penny stocks that I've got for you today the first one is called LuVu Brands ticker symbol LuVu and this is probably my one of my more recommended ones this stock is incredibly cheap right now so what are they what they do what are LuVu Brands so they're a community of sewing sewing artisans take great pride in knowing that their craft is building a strong foundation for our future okay so they create a lot of products um the brands okay so a bit more about LuVu Brands who are they so where we are an incubator of specialty lifestyle brands personal protective gear and produce an array of consumer products that enrich lives through comfort relaxation protection and connection so some of the brands that this includes they've got jacks living jack school avana medical avana PPE liberator bedroom and creative so they've got an impressive product portfolio this is an impressive brand their revenue is continuing to grow they've got this product portfolio there's a lot of catalysts within each of these products for example if they can get a school contract for their jack school equipment that they've got then that could grow you know their furniture that they've got that could grow massively the stock price that's a catalyst they've got this jacks living again there's some interesting products there and there's a range of products within this we talk about what businesses do well well these businesses who have a solve a need okay they solve a problem or they um actually solve a need that people have okay that's that's what businesses do well and this is what LuVu is trying to do now what is it sat at so it's at 0.13 USD at the minute so this is incredibly cheap this is incredibly cheap LuVu brands so they're on a bit of a dip at the minute okay so they've dipped down to this level so if you can pick this up between 0.10 and 0.13 then I would pick it up it may run up if you can pick up anywhere between 0.10 and 0.5 I would say it's the range you want to get into this I would try and average down so buy a small position and then try and average down if it drops by a little bit buy many increments buy a bit then a few days buy a bit more a few days buy a bit more so have a look at this I think that this stock has got a lot of potential to grow massively I think that this is going to be a multibagger so to speak this is going to be one that's going to grow multiple percentage points it's got a lot of potential this one you put it on your watch list see when you if it dips to like 0.10 buy it just put it on your watch list see what you think see how it grows check out LuVu the next one I've got for you is candy kndy now bear with me with this okay bear with me this got hit by a short seller report people can remember a few weeks ago this particular company and it crashed it was all the way at like nearly 14 15 dollars it's got a hit by a short seller report and it has been coming down ever since and it's now around seven dollars okay and I think that this is a good swing trade I think there's got a potential to ride up a little bit more than its current price point I think it can easily hit nine to twelve again so there's a potential swing trade here here it's at seven dollars twenty uh kndy what I would say is put this on your watch list and if you can get this stock anywhere between six dollars and say six dollars ninety I would buy in on this and I'm considering adding my position if it gets down to that level because I think that this stock is going to run its way up there was a short seller report everyone panic sold you know and this stock collapsed as it was not collapsed collapsed but the stock price went down but I think that this has got a good vehicle the product itself is actually quite smart I think that the products that they've got is a good right we've got this in the EV sector it's a growing sector I still think that this stock's got a lot of potential okay and if you can get this at a cheap price all the more better for your investment so if it does reach to that level of you know goes down to six dollars in that range I would consider buying and holding this one till and set a price target maybe you want 30 to 60 percent uh you know investment back okay you want 30 60 percent growth and then maybe you sell out okay so use this as a swing trade I think it's got a lot of potential the next one I've got for you is with you've mentioned this before and this has been growing decently this is called galaxy next generations gaxi okay so the ticket symbol is g x y so what are they so they are another technology that they are not another technology provider we actually work in hand in hand with educators to help them evolve how teaching and learning happens in 21st century classrooms so they create different products that are useful for the classroom they've got touch screens they've got wall mounts they've got curve shields for what's going on at the minute they've got a range of products that are useful for the classroom and this stock is incredibly cheap they've been growing the revenue they've been growing the revenue a decent amount it's an incredibly cheap price it's run up um quite a decent amount but there's still a lot of potential this is going to grow absolutely much fairer than it's at now much much fairer I'm not even though I'm up I don't know I'm up but I need to check but last time I checked I was up like 60 percent or something 50 percent on this stock 60 to 80 percent so around that it with penny stocks are always volatile right but I'm up but a decent amount I'm not selling this one um I'm I'm holding this one for a very long time um or a well at well unless something big comes out which will make me change my mind okay because I've got probably will hold this one uh unless something changes my mind so galaxy next generation eliminates all variable convertible debt so this is some even more positive news that has just come out about this company there's just positive news after positive news coming out in press releases so what does this mean they get them getting rid of any debt well that's good for the stock price it's good for the stock it's good for the company that's what it means so I would consider getting into this stock I'll put a small position in this stock um and or it's up to you how much you want to put in but you consider putting some money into this because this is at 0.033 at the minute okay we suggested it around 0.02 around that level 0.02 the low two's on that and it's already run up to 0.033 okay I think there's got a lot of potential to run up further and I think if you can get this stock anywhere between 0.035 and 0.025 there's got a lot of potential I think this is a stock that can easily 1020x okay this stock's going to run up again but it's a roller coaster you've got to hold penny stocks don't you gotta have a strong stomach for them because they're like this right we all know everybody who knows everybody who invests in stocks penny stocks knows that right um another one that I'm looking at is Idex this again this is a bonus one I've got my three there those are the three that I mentioned my top three gatsy louvue and candy at the moment I've got this one at Idex on as a bonus but I'm saying put this on your watch list if you see this go down to anywhere around $1.70 I would buy some up so I just wanted to mention that and then also I want to mention this I want you to buy this dip on again I'm not a financial advisor you do what you want to do but I would suggest buying the dip on BFT on paysafe this is a ffintech company we all know that the ffintech industry financial technology industry is growing it's going to grow massively this is incredibly cheap now it's at a big big well I say a big dip it's dipped a good amount you know and if you can catch this in the 13s or 14s this is an absolute buy okay I cannot be any more confident on a stock maybe other than gatsy at the minute um I cannot be any more confident on a stock if you can get this in threat in the 13s or 14s I would buy this this is going to easily double okay so consider BFT paysafe buy it at the dip get this good price while you can on this stock um I've got my stock thought of the day just to end off this video by the way if you're new to the channel please subscribe and like the video but my stock thought of the day it's a roller coaster penny stocks okay it is a roller coaster it's like this with penny stocks very um you know very volatile very you know you can be coming down on this roller coaster one minute you can be going up the next so you've got to have conviction in the penny stocks that you are investing in so always do the research look at the website keep up to date with them and have conviction ask yourself does this stock have a good product is these products going to make money what is their revenue like could this grow in the future if it isn't got very good revenue to begin with because sometimes the penny stocks for a reason right maybe they don't have as much revenue but maybe they've got potential in the future ask yourself some of these questions and if the answers that the positive answers then look at getting into them but have conviction on that stock because it can dip 20% and you're going to be like damn right but then it can go up again and it can go up massively okay so it's a roller coaster um everyone comment hashtag roller coaster if you in the comments if you're in for the roller coaster on penny stocks they are very interesting again you only want you only want a small part of your portfolio in penny stocks right you only want five ten percent of your overall portfolio in penny stocks the rest needs to be in growth stocks the rest needs to be in other types of stocks okay so thank you for watching this video by the way bft is obviously not a penny stock i just wanted to mention that as a bonus because i think that it's a great penny stock i mean i think it's a great spack should i say it's a spack it's not a penny stock obviously pacif is never going to be a penny stock it's going to be a company that dominates okay so look at bft pacif do some research into that and i do want to give other stocks so i don't just want to talk about penny stocks i want to talk about other stocks as well so do look into them anyways i'm waffling on i'm going on thanks for watching the video subscribe if you're new like the video it helps out in the youtube algorithm and i will see everybody in the next one


Mamadiaro Shakriar scores a smashing victory against Anna Mozicciuk. He joins us in our studio to tell us how he did it. Sharer, a win against Anna Mozicciuk, pleased with the result but also the game was quite convincing? Okay, it was a good game. I played this line-on only one time in my life against Amwell, Maxime. I built a super tournament and we played like he played after... I think it is not a popular move, I played against him and he played also G6, G4. It was a new move for G4 against Maxime, I played but today I play the same. And it is absolutely my idea, I mean it just looks very strange. So this was a novelty against Maxime? Maxime, but I played it second time. I think after my games Maxime is too many people start to play. And okay, I mean it looks very strange for White but it is also for Black. I was very happy to play against this position. It looks very nice, very good. It is very in your style as well and also it is kind of hard to prepare against you because you are playing so many things and then you just make a move like G4? Yes, but it is not easy to play everything and most certainly also today she told me she sees this game as against Maxime I mean before which I played but she cannot believe I can play against this line. The problem is Maxime play against me is take, take, take and G7. And I played fantastic move B3 against Maxime, it was fantastic, really brilliant move. I give him pawn immediately and it looks very strange but White is near a winning position.  Did he take the e5 pawn? And you went on to win this game in the end? Yes, and this queen going long castle and this mate, I mean it looks very strange. But okay, she played d5, it is also very bad move. I am not sure because she takes, takes, looks very bad So I play very strong move rook e1, after rook e1 it looks very bad because she takes, takes, if take knight d4, same. Yeah, sometimes it just gets queen d4 and rook takes e5 and bishop takes h6, so I mean move. So that I play rook e1 and it's okay, it looks very bad. Why is rook e1 in this line important? Because it's White needs to play very good move, I mean some very strong move. Why? Because like in the game, yeah, take, take, rook e5 and in the game rook e1 is very strong. Right. Yeah, and okay I calculate this bishop e4 move, first it was my line to play this. I got my bishop and good bishop e4, but then I see one line. It's very interesting, one by one bishop takes e4. Yeah, it looks very strange here, because now I take, and I see e5, yeah, it's here. It looks very strange, but okay, I calculate and I find here is very nice move. It looks like take e4 is next move, I can take e4. Right. It's fantastic, it looks, if queen takes bishop e5 and bishop f6, queen g6. Yeah, and if knight f6, just take g6 now, it's a full note. And this looks, but I again find this move queen here, because this problem is absolutely meaning in the game. Yes, bishop takes, of course it's absolutely meaning in the game, but and my feeling is not very good and I don't want to play in game, yeah. Why do you say your feeling is not very good? I know, but it's some problems in my heart and I don't know, but really. So you didn't want to go into any ending, you just wanted to play? Yeah, in game because no move to play in long, okay, pawn of course. Yeah, and bishop. Against Carson of course, yeah, you need to play okay, pawn and his wing. But today it was, I calculate bishop e3 and it looks again, it's very bad. And okay, it's very bad position. Problems, d5 move, black played d5, it's very bad in the opening. After d5 it just collapsed for her. Yeah, after d5, I think it's a move. And then after rook e8, you got this nice trick with bishop e6 in. Yeah, for idea it was bishop e3 taking. Okay, maybe some move is white is better, but now the material is more important. After bishop e3, are you just wanting to go bishop d4 next? Yeah, bishop d4 or queen d2 is a move. Right. If 5, I can play knight c3 or some bishop d4, you need to calculate. Maybe bishop d4 also has many material. Also it's a winning position. Okay, black is no move. Bishop e3 for me is good. Right. And just plays his line. Okay, I can take d8, knight c5 is also looks very bad for black, pawn and bishop is very strong. But again I calculate white in game. White in game seems to be the theme of this game. White just looks without two pawns and my knight is very good active. To be sure this is not important and his pawn is going to just queen. Just play normal moves. And here is, of course, an upset losing position. At which moment did you feel you were completely winning? Was it almost after this d5? I think here is, of course, after take d5, I think this is absolutely winning position. Right. And in this position of the king g8, you played a very nice move. This just wraps up everything because you have... I want to play for, okay, first I want to play for public this line. First I want to play check here. I think it will be more interesting for public. Check, queen check and rook e8 and knight take e6 and take queen. Yeah. I think it's more interesting. It looks very nice. But queen e6 is winning because problems... With queen f6 next, it's just over. Yeah, same idea. And same idea and queen take e7 and also rook e8. So you're threatening queen e7 and the point is, for example, just to show then you just take and with this idea of winning the queen. Yeah, queen is okay. Yeah. Well, after four draws, much needed win today. Okay. In round four, I got absolutely winning positions against my Argentinian opponent, Chris, I think. Yeah. I played, I got absolutely winning position. It was just played some normal moves and it was a winning position. And okay, I played very bad. After this opening, I played very bad. I got very good advantage. And after, also yesterday, I got very good position for end game. You know, I played like super tournaments. Yeah. I think the super tournaments were strong and I tried to play my best openings and okay, end game, better end game. It's a good chance to win, but no chance to lose. But against these players, it's not working. They play draw for easily. No chances. They play bad end game. Okay. Play. Okay. But in our chess, in super tournaments, nobody wants to go to these lines. I mean bad positions and bad end games from the openings. This Grand Masters 1000, 500,000 is okay. They play bad end games and they easily defense and there's no chance to win. And today I forced that I play 90th straight. In my openings, they just play normal moves and also it's two games with blacks. They just play for drawing. This is a big challenge for players who are mostly playing in round robins to come and play in open events. It's not easy. I mean you don't know how you need to change your style. Yes. You cannot play in every time. If you play in super tournaments, I wish you played here. Yes. He had a tough tournament. Yes. He played very bad tournaments and he played some games really very bad. Fantasticly bad. I mean strong players, okay, when you play against every time strong, you now draw is every time okay. Good. In open tournaments, every draw is catastrophic. You know it's like every game draws, it means you lose the chance to win tournament. And for that four draws, of course, too much. I agree. Too much. But what I try to play and also my fields are really very bad. And it is very good and fantastic. I can continue to play tournament. I will go out because this is my field really. We speak and you can see it's my field really not good. And I hope I can play this tournament till the end and try, of course, try to play for the first prize. Right. Well, we hope you feel better soon Charir because we love the way you play on the board and we really look forward to having you back with us. Thank you for your time. Thank you.


It's Wednesday. It's 11 o'clock. It is March the 10th, 2021. I'm Tim Apachele, your host, and welcome to What Now, America. The title of the show today is 1.9 trillion COVID relief passed. Will it help? And I'm going to go right to our guests on this very, very topic. I'd like to welcome Jay Fidel, Stephanie Dalton, and Winston Welch. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Tim. Jay, about 20, 30, 40, 50 minutes ago, the house passed the 1.9 trillion dollar COVID bill. It now goes to President Biden for signature. This is a huge financial package that they basically could not get any Republican support on both in the House and in the Senate. So much for bipartisanship negotiations and agreements. That didn't happen. But here we are with this huge, huge COVID relief package. And I guess I'll go to the question is, is it really going to hit the target market that it was intended to help? Now, we know that if you're going to get $1,400 as an individual, your wage level should not exceed $75,000. But if you look at a wage of $75,000, particularly in the red states, in the rural areas, that's not bad wage. That's pretty good. And so my question is, is this 1.9 trillion, a little too generous? I have to go out to the mailbox and wait for my check. Not at all clear it's coming. And there's $150,000 joint filing return, you get that too. And there's rules around it. But you're right to raise the question, because maybe there's some people who really don't need it. And whether your income is a good a good conditional, a good parameter on whether you should get it, maybe that's not right, because some people who have a lot of income in the tax return don't have a job, maybe they've been digging into savings, maybe it's not so good for them anymore. Anyway, they threw it on the wall. That's what happened here. And they threw it on the wall weeks and weeks ago, I guess when Joe Biden was first inaugurated. And okay, and they stuck with it. You got to give them credit. There's a lot of provisions in that bill you really wonder about it. I mean, Indian reservations, really, they're trying to correct every ill that you could ever imagine in the country. And a lot of it got by the screening process. And it's still there. They threw it on the wall and a lot of it stuck. Well, is this a result because they knew they're going to have to go through a reconciliation process, and they could do it that way and basically stoke it up with all sorts of things they normally wouldn't get to passage. Yeah, I mean, the idea was relief from COVID make the whole country, you know, better, better economic form. And I think it will do that. But for a while, you know, what strikes me, I wonder how you guys feel about this is, okay, $1,400. That's it. That's it. Well, let's now let's back up a little.  So you had 3,600 and 3,600 plus another 1,400 plus the spouse of 1,400. That's quite a bit of income into one family of the United States. Andrew, what was his name? Andrew Wang would say, Yang would say, how about repeating that? How about doing some kind of thing where it happens every other week or every month for six months for a year? Sort of a guaranteed income, if you will, to keep things going. And I really don't like the idea of giving out lump sums like that, because people, you know, can spend it instantly.  Not very long. And if they have no reserves now, for whatever reason, they're not going to reserve much of that. So it's going to be spent and gone. I mean, I'm not saying it's a bad idea. It certainly will, you know, generate a lot of cash in the economy. And that's probably good. And it's a good start for Joe Biden and the Democrats. What troubles me, and you mentioned it more than anything, is that it was completely political. And every Republican voted against it. There is no sign of collaboration here between the parties, none zero. And the next thing that has to happen is we get into the Voting Rights Act, which is really important for the long term. And we're going to run into that same, you know, partisan vote. And I'm really sad about that, because I don't think that's going to pass. You can't do reconciliation on that or on so many other things that he has lined up in his pipeline. So I think, you know, this actually may be it. I mean, I'd be interested in how you guys feel about the other bills in the pipeline. Is he going to get them through on a bipartisan basis? The answer is probably no. Why? Because they would vote against them as a matter of principle. They want to make them look bad. They'll never vote for any initiative, good, bad or otherwise. Well, as I said in the last show, they didn't use the last reconciliation process under the Trump administration. So Joe Biden has that one. And then, of course, he just used one for the COVID passage. So he's down to one reconciliation process left in his bag of tools. But let me just... It sounds like a canasta, maybe, or a poker. It sounds like a game. You have no monopoly. Maybe you have one more choice and choose.  You got one mulligan left. Yeah, right. Pew just came out with a poll that 70% of Americans like this COVID bill as is. Now, that might have been taken after the $15 wage was in or out. I don't know. But I think they approved what Joe Biden was doing on this effort. And 28% opposed it. So it's rare to get 70% agreement on anything in this country. It's amazing. It's registering so high for this COVID relief package. I think there's two aspects to that, Tim. One is that he's been selling it. And the Democrats have been selling it as hard as they can possibly sell it. It's the one thing they've been working on more than anything else sell the country. The other is who's going to say no to a free lunch? Who in the world is going to say no here you get all this money, money, money, money. You don't want to say no? The only people who say no for reasons that are not at all clear is Republicans. That's irrational. But most human being people are not going to say no to a free lunch. There aren't. And that goes to my question. Is the GOP senators and representatives in the house, are they risking a great deal by alienating those who really want to see this? And that means their own constituents. My answer is that, yes, some of their constituents would be wondering and scratching ahead with what happened in Congress, in the Republicans in the House and Senate. But on the other hand, remember, the fickle finger moves on. The press moves on. The news cycle moves on. And they figured there's plenty of time for the public who got irritated to forget all about that. And it would be up to Joe Biden and the Democrats to remind them over and over and over again, especially at the next election. All right. Thank you. Hey, Winston, they took out that very controversial $15 per hour minimum wage out of this COVID relief package. Joe Manson probably had a big say in that. Do you think that was a good move or a bad move not to press further, to either retain it or was it a wise idea to remove it? Oh, I mean, he's the leader of the Democratic Party now. He's New York. He's the control mechanism or the pain point. So what Joe wants is going to get. He did say, I think I read something that he said he was open to something about the filibuster. I might have read that wrong, but I thought that there was probably the screws of being put on him on the other side as well saying, dude, look, are you in our party or not? Because at some point, like Jay was saying, there was no Republicans voted for this. And as this moves down the road, what else is going to be voting rights actor or anything? I think what they'll find agreement on is probably other large scale things like infrastructure projects that bring the pork home. These bills are always just filled with everything. The kitchen sinks. Some of them some things like that $15 an hour you mentioned in a lot of states getting 1400 bucks is a lot of money. If you're in Alabama or Mississippi or West Virginia, that's a lot of money. It's 1400 bucks, but it's not going to go as far in San Francisco or Seattle or New York or Honolulu. But if that was what was going to prevent it from happening and where the minimum wage is what is the minimum wage, $7 an hour or something insane, that has to come up on its own. Maybe it's just done by the states. I don't know, but if they had to take it out, they needed to take it out. And if that's what caused it to pass, of course we need to have a living wage, but that's a completely different discussion on that we have literally trillionaires in this economy and I'm all for people being rich. Being rich is glorious, but we also have incredible disparities of income of opportunity now in America that are showing up educationally, socially, and in other ways. And that needs to be addressed at a more structural, fundamental level. But like you said, 70% of people said, yeah, this bill is great because who doesn't like free money? And the 28% that said they don't like it, you'd be hard pressed to find a company or an individual that's going to send back that check to the government if it comes to their house on principle. I bet the government's not going to get a lot of refunds on that. And it's probably think I would be surprised if organizations, even like the American Enterprise Institute or whatever organization didn't apply for their PPP loans and all of that as well, because if they weren't, then they weren't doing, well they could stand on principle, but if they weren't doing that, then maybe they were sort of neglecting their responsibilities for financial prudence of what they're given. So yeah, it's- All right, well let me take the other position on this. Let's say it's, you know, 15 years ago and the Tea Party is just emerging and the Tea Party, if you remember, one of their main principles was deficit control. So the first COVID relief was $2.1 trillion. The second one, which was this at the end of December of last year, was $900 billion and this was $1.9, so if you do some fast math, you're over $5 trillion. Now apparently deficits don't matter anymore for both the Democrats and the Republicans, but at some point we can't just keep rolling money off the printer machines and expect not to have either inflation or a collapse in U.F. dollar. Well that's coming down the road, but it's not here right now. Right here right now, people are out of work, they're out of money, there's a rent moratorium expiring. Even here in Hawaii, I was reading what was it, 50% of businesses didn't pay at least one month's rent last year. I think that was something like that in specific businesses. It was whatever happens in the future with inflation or the dollar going down. I mean, it's just sort of inevitable, I think, on some level, which is why you've seen these crazy things with Bitcoin going on like fake, this is a non, there's nothing there, but people are pouring money into it because they're seeing that in the future. However, as we saw with the Republican Party, they're not a party anymore that's based on principles as we understood, conservative, principle conservatism, the kind that perhaps Liz Cheney represents, very few, you can pick them out that are willing to stand up and say that, and it's probably what maybe a quarter of the party left that has some principle conservatism. So anything about like, spend as much as you want, the principles that we used to understand as conservative principles, they're not there right now. They may come back. It would be nice to see. Can I just jump in on this? I mean, ultimately, we're going to have to pay the piper. Tim is right to raise the issue. At some point along the way, we're going to have to reckon with this, and it's going to hurt us. It's going to hurt the stock market. It's going to hurt the economy. Nobody wants to talk about that, but we don't know where that is. At the end of the day, we're going to have to pay the piper. Yeah, but it's not today. It's not today. People need that. They need the two trillion today, and I think it's a conceptual number. If you ask the average American what's America's debt, they don't know, but they do know that housing prices in Hawaii went from $780 to $920 as an average sales price last year on Oahu. That's a huge increase in the price. So all of this stuff is going to figure out into calculus somewhere down the road, but for right now, they're worried about keeping food on the table, keeping the roof over their head, and so they're going to welcome that release period. Okay. Hey, Winston, thank you. Hey, Stephanie, I'm going to kind of return back to a question I asked Jay, and that is again, if you're a couple and you're earning $150,000, you're going to get $2,800 immediately, probably in the next week, since you're home or through your bank account. Do you have automatic deposit? Was that level too high? Should have been $100,000 for a couple and $50,000 for an individual, or do you think the level set was appropriate and just right? Well, that's an interesting question. I haven't really thought much about it as a specific number or what the cut is, but of the cut at the level of income is. I think that does a repeat of what there was before, so I guess can be. It was a repeat, yes. The other point is no matter, all those people making that kind of money, they're probably as you or Jay mentioned earlier, they're not necessarily going to spend that money on new hot dogs for their kids.  So all that money is, they should put some in Bitcoin or some savings if they don't have any, which Winston mentioned earlier. But anyway, that money's all going into the economy. So that's going to start whipping things back up. Well, is it going in the economy? What if people had to borrow money for the last year just to put food on the table and pay the utility bills and pay the mortgage and they had to borrow? I would think if they now have an influx of cash, they have an opportunity to pay that debt back down. Well, sure, but lots of them didn't have that problem if you're getting up to $150K a year. Well, there you go. I guess my point is, I'm not sure this money is going to the exact proper target market. I think there are a lot of people that have more need that you could have spread this out further for the people at $100,000 as a couple or $50,000 as an individual. I don't know. I guess my point is that it is all going to come back around to all of us because it's going in the economy one way or another after those people in high need are going to pay off what they need. The other aspect of this is that I've learned from Brian Schatz's statements to Hawaii that this is actually going to relieve Hawaii, and I don't know about the other states, maybe it's similar, but we're going to be relieved of this catastrophe of a huge deficit. In fact, we're going to be on our way back up to par. Even the state collection of taxes is not as dire as they thought it was. So we're not going to be as short there. So there's a really good point that's made actually by the Republicans because a lot of that money is going to more than those kinds of payments to people.  It's going to make a huge difference, all the small business. There's millions and millions, which I won't go back over here, but that I wrote down that are going to all these other places to heart. They're going to, you know, the national fund for access to or saving the workforce. So there's millions and millions, hundreds of millions coming from this bill into other places in Hawaii that are going to just bounce to Hawaii. But, you know, around the nation, I guess, I think this is an opportune time to bring up Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham's comments that part of this COVID relief bill had dedicated $5 billion to farmers, minority farmers to either gain access to loans they weren't allowed to gain access to through the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And so give them access for that or pay off debt to forgive loans that they had been carrying just to keep their farms in existence. And Lindsey Graham referred that to as reparations. And that's the exact term he used.  To what degree do you have sorts of ornaments on this? They got to take money home. Look at Kentucky. Mitch McConnell has so much money. They got bridges they don't even need down there. The people are still starving. But my point is that for Biden's point of view in the administration, this is a one-shot deal, as you all already- Oh, I want to speak to that. I think that's really an excellent point. You know, this discloses, this reveals to us that Congress is dysfunctional and the government is dysfunctional. In a perfect world, with all those economists, really high-quality economists in the administration, they would tune the economy. They would say, well, okay, it's March. Let's do this in March. And this is April. We'll do a little something in April. And we'll keep on going down the pike and we'll adjust everything depending on how the economy and all these other factors, including COVID and the vaccines, are working. But we can't do that. Why? Because we're not bipartisan. You can't get these bills through every day. You know, look how long it took Biden to get this one. You know, it started, what, in the 20th of January and now only. And this is this big priority. So, you know, what I'm saying is that ideally, in a perfect world, Congress would be able to act in a much more nimble fashion, recognizing that it cannot, will not, does not act in a nimble fashion, that everything is clogged up in Congress. And you can't repeat this kind of bill. That's what we have. It's not the best solution. Yeah. And it's so much like a football game, right? So, every scrimmage, you can, that they have an overall plan to get to the goal, okay? But it's every single inch centimeter is a scrimmage to get there. And that seems to be more our model of government, especially these days. And there isn't any cooperation at all, except to be in each other's ways. So, if that's the way our government has been, you know, deployed, we need to start thinking about what Biden might help lead us to thinking about, which is back to compromise negotiation, arbitration, whatever it is that you can change this game so we can meet the needs of the people. But I think back to the point is that this is one time and it may be, Biden's not going to get another thing through depending on what comes up. I agree. I mean, Joe Biden said, go big. Let's go big. And I think he did. Yeah, I think he did it. This will hold him and get him through some tough stuff to come. And hopefully he can turn it around. We'll see. Yeah. Okay, thank you, Stephanie. Appreciate it. Jay, in the southern states or around the country, 43 states, actually, we have over 253 bills proposed that will limit voting access for constituents or non-constituents. That's quite a staggering number. We know we have a proposed bill HR1. Later in August, I believe there is another bill on HR4, which is called the John Lewis Voting Act that will come up on the August 2021 calendar in the legislature. You brought up the point that this is a critical bill that needs to be looked at because what the GOP is trying to do is really curtail access to the voting boost. And they know that's why they lost Georgia. They know that's the sole reason why a red state went blue. And you had two Democrat senators elected over two GOP-established senators. What are your thoughts about this attempt by the GOP to thwart a fair and clean election? Yeah. I mean, aside from the destruction of the planet by climate change, and I suppose the previously very threatening COVID, maybe it's not so threatening today, except the variants, this is the most threatening thing to our democracy. A, they're succeeding. They're in a civil war, and they're in so many state houses passing so many bills that are obviously disgracefully racist and voter suppression against every principle of the Founding Fathers. It's really hideous, and the world is looking at us as a joke. Let me run down this list and get your reaction to it of some of the things that there are in their bills throughout the South and other parts of the country, Iowa as well. One, it'll be a misdemeanor not to deliver food or drink to people standing in line. That's crazy. The restriction of the ballot boxes dropped around various counties. They want to severely limit the number of drop-off boxes for your ballot. Increased ID registration requirements. No absentee voting, unless you have a really, really good reason that only fits their definition of why you should even think about voting absentee. Cutout weekend voting, and that's directly, I think, directed at Black Americans that go to church on Sunday, and a big tradition is souls to the booth, the voting booth on Sunday. So if you take out the voting on Sunday, they have nowhere to go. It's all racist, and it's all anti-democratic, and here's the worst thing. They're passing these bills. They're passing them in various legislatures, and of course there are lawsuits questioning them on constitutional grounds, which should wind up in the Supreme Court. This is the big test of the Supreme Court, whether they will preserve our democracy. But here, on the other side, in Congress, that bill, that's the voting rights bill, it's coming up now, and I guess it's important for Biden. It should be. He's trying to get it through, but you know, the Republicans are never going to vote for it. And if we have Clutcher and the filibuster, it's not going to pass. It's simply not going to. There's no reconciliation possible with that bill. Let me throw this out. Joe Biden just recently signed an executive order, expanding voting rights, access to voting booths. How does that executive order counterplay off all these 153 bills in various states? Which one takes priority? An executive order or something passed by an individual state legislature? The courts will have to decide, but you know, it's not a pretty picture. And the reality is that the legislation passed by these various Republican state houses, state legislatures, is going to have to be tested in court and may fail. I mean, what I mean is the attacks on them may fail. So what we have now is pandemonium, a civil war, chaos between now and 2022. And the trouble is that we ought to pay attention to the crises that are going on in the country, not having a civil war. It's the wrong time for that. It's always the wrong time for that. So that goes down to Winston's comment about Joe Manchin and his role in the Senate and how he's the key vote, and whether or not, really come down to whether or not the filibuster should be eliminated or not. Winston, you correctly stated that he is open now to some revisions of the filibuster. Now in the old days, you remember that movie with Jimmy Stewart, Mr. Washington, Mr. Smith, goes to Washington and he's doing a filibuster on the floor in the House of Representatives and he's going on and on. Well, I think Joe Manchin is open to getting back to those days where you just don't go, okay, you don't get the 60s, next item. Joe Manchin may be in favor of having a Lindsey Graham or a Ted Cruz stand on the Senate floor until they run out of breath to exercise their filibuster rights and to not make it easy for them like they have it now. Winston, what do you think about that? I think if I were Joe Biden, I would be pouring every possible federal resource into West Virginia.  You mean to Abraham Lincoln of Paola to get your amendment to the 13th Amendment passed? Sadly, whatever works. But, you know, as I was looking just online for this, HUD, the Urban Housing and Urban Development for the US, they said that low income in Honolulu in 2019, if you were looking for a loan or to qualify for subsidized housing or affordable housing, single person living on Oahu in 2019 was $67,500. So the 75, well, that seems like a lot. It's just above the low income level. The average mean wage here as by assuming a Bureau of Labor Statistics, and I still think that those are accurate, 54,900 in 2019. So this money even in Hawaii will go a long way for a lot of people.  But I think that, you know, I still, I wake up every day now, I don't have to go and check what Joe Biden did or didn't do. I don't worry about the state of the nation. We're not in a state of hyper alert anymore. I think everyone is calmer now. He, you know, by pulling out the minimum wage and the, oh, what was the unemployment thing was going from 400 to 300 or something like that. These were minor changes relatively compared to the massive bill that went through. So he got some pork out. He got some some payback right now, what he needed to do. And now we can get down to the to good governance and getting rebuilding, restructuring, reforming, and stabilizing our entire system that was dismantled before our eyes these last four years. I think that's what he's going to concentrate on. It seems there's no giant scandals coming out of his administration. There's no incredible gaps that we have to look at. So I think, you know, for a while, I think if we can just settle on a little bit more boring, everyone's going to be calmed down. Joe Biden is the baking soda that this nation needs. And I'm going to settle on a lot more boring. Thank you. After the last four years, I could use a lot more boring. We've run out of time, we've run out of time, but I'm going to go around the horn here and get your last comments or what you think is in store for the country in the next week. Stephanie, to you. Thank you. I think there is a nightmare going on that we cannot let up on. In fact, we need to do something about it, which is as Jay mentioned, and I was interrupting him because the Civil War was about states rights. I mean, that's all I ever heard about. I never heard a thing about slavery or read about it in all of my US history courses a long time ago. But anyway, it's states rights. And that's what's happened is now they're building up the states, as they have built up the states, and they're building up the states rights issue. So that's what the Supreme Court will be asked to deal with again, as to what is it that is going fair, well, either federal or the states rights. And then I wanted to just mention that thank you for Biden's camouflaging of this $15 minimum wage lure, because I see it as a lure to get the Republicans in and then also to let it go so that they'll feel that they've had a piece of the action. So I credit him with that and well done. And Joe Manchin, of course, wants to be a good guy. And he's, but he also wants to have it both ways. So I don't know how that's going to come out. But we now have the standard up $15 minimum less Virginians would love that too, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you, Stephanie. So much. Jay, your last thoughts, comments, what's up for the next week? Oh, well, we'll see what the rest of Joe Biden's initiatives are. We'll see how well they do. We'll see more of those bills in the Republican state houses all across the country. I can't take of anything more that, and may see some action on the filibuster. I believe that'd be a very positive move. You know, one of the things the problems with the Constitution is it hasn't been amended often enough. The country has gone through zillions of changes, profound changes every day. Has the Constitution kept up? No. And has, you know, has the law kept up? And I think it's very important that we make the changes necessary to comport with the changes in our society. One of them is getting rid of the filibuster. The other thing I want to say is, I think we're all together on this, and that is that we got a problem looking for 2022. It's only around the corner. And if the Republicans, potentially under Trump's influence, you know, take the Senate, take the House, we are going to be back exactly where Winston would like to leave. We're going to be back where we were in chaos and in legislation that doesn't give a rip about the people. That's why voting rights is so important. That's why we have to keep our eyes on 2022. All right. Thank you, Jay. I like the idea of a Hawaiian style con con, maybe every 50 years in this country. Who knows? All right, Winston, your last thoughts, comments, concerns, questions? Well, you know, we're always evolving towards a more perfect union and things happen slowly on that level. And I, you know, when you can go into a country like Japan after the war and rewrite the Constitution and you put in women's rights straight out of the bat and those sorts of things, that's nice. It doesn't always mean that they exist because they're still ranked just above, you know, a lot at the bottom of the barrel for those types of things. So we have our mechanisms in this country. It's not perfect. We have a lot of work to do. There's no doubt about it. There's a lot of dangerous elements out there. But when this main demagogue and irritant has been gone and out of our sight and out of our sound for even a short period of time, we are, we will forget and people will enjoy this piece that they have with their friends, with their neighbors, with their co-workers of just not having to have this in their face screaming all the time. Now I'm not watching Fox News and America One or whatever they're playing. And I'm sure it's the same old hits. But I think on some level, people realize, you know what? That was not good for our nation on many levels. And if Joe Biden is smart, he will try and look at the actual real grievances, if there are any, that are under the ugliness, under the pettiness, under the awfulness and say, was there anything there? And if so, let's try and address it. We have the most qualified person to ever occupy the White House period. He's doing a fantastic job. I'm just looking forward to seeing how he can move forward. Like Stephanie was saying, that $15 an hour, including the Republicans, maybe some of them will realize it's in their best interest ultimately to work towards a better America. And that's my hope for this week and for the next two years and four years and forever. Okay, you get the last word and great words. Those were, I want to thank my guests, Jay Fidel, Stephanie Dalton, and Winston Welch. Thank you for joining us on What Now America. Join us next week, Wednesday, 11 o'clock. I'm Tim Epichella, your host. We'll see you next week. What Now America? Aloha.


back to why in the morning if it's Tuesday it's entrepreneurship Tuesday at Y254 channel is where you can find us across all our social media handles at Michelle Ashira is where you can find me across all my social in this particular session we dive into an interview that looks at renewable energy and in studio I am joined by Mark Kinguru who is the founder of Buddy system right thank you very much for creating time to be with us thank you for having me how you doing I'm doing well so telling us of tell us more about what your business is solving in the market in the space of energy sector so our business is aimed at providing renewable energy and making it available where the grid is not present because energy is not at the energy demand is not enough in Kenya what Kenya provides is not sufficient so we look into making that energy readily available and also making it cheap okay so I like the fact that you've mentioned the fact that we need to ensure that other you know other options apart from just power they're actually cheap but when you look at solar energy it's yes it is cheap but it's quite expensive when it comes to the initial acquiring or probably the solar panel so how can you ensure that we get to use solar energy well first of all one thing that we can do is that we can introduce a system whereby the community can come together for example in a village and you know decide to contribute towards building once once centralized system that can be used by people in a certain locality okay so how did you start the business let's let's let's go back to you know the initial point how did how did the body system all began how did it start well body systems was founded in 2015 myself and a friend of mine came together and we decided to register a company and once we did we did get business ideas immediately so we stayed just with the name for a while and then later on I came to we came to identify a gap a gap in the market so we decided that maybe we can start providing energy yes that's how and what is the market so we have other companies that offer probably same services that body system does so what is the issue the market what makes you unique I would say workmanship you're very professional we are licensed we do very good work first of all when we get a customer it's not all about selling a product to the customer we go to the customer we educate the customer we do the site survey so we're sure when we are sizing the system we're giving them what is going to suit to meet their need so our site survey is both educational and also serves in you know sizing the system according to how the client needs it okay mark someone is watching this conversation and they want to get into the energy sector probably provide the same sort of services of different when it comes to renewable energy what does it take to to run this kind of a business and what educational background does we need to have well first of all I would say it requires passion passion comes first and then of course you need to have a technical background I am a strong champion for TVET because TVET is a vehicle for sustainable development and it's also a vehicle for social equity so you need to have interest for hands-on hands-on jobs you need to have a technical background and then you need to have the passion so and how does solar impact like my property value from a client and I'm looking at renewable energy solution and solar panel as one of my options well first of all there are so many advantages of solar energy one it is renewable you get it today you get it tomorrow as long as the sun is shining second it is diverse it has diverse applications you can use water solar to pump water to heat to heat water to generate electricity and then solar has very minimum maintenance cost once you install solar you only need to maybe do cleaning of panels once in a while and there are no other costs that are alright let me take a look at that we mentioned that solar energy it's it's an affordable way to to incorporate probably this renewable energy compared to Kenya powers it mentioned earlier all let's look at we said it's quite expensive when it comes to the initial acquisition so how can we go about we're even going about cheaper ways how to acquire it let's look at financial solutions are there are loans that can be are there to actually have clients or potential clients to acquire them well first of all I think you can start building a solar system they are scalable systems you don't have to to build a big system from the wardrobe you can start with a small system and you know go as an incremental plan but they are microfinance institutions that provide loans and even directed towards the growth of solar from where you seated how can you advice like a potential client who is looking forward to meeting up on a with a solar install how can you ensure that they are credible and certified and not get duped well first of all if you wish to engage someone to build a solar system for you there are people who will tell you will size the system for you even before they have seen you demand or what what you need to use a solar system for you need to conduct a site service so first of all if someone is sizing for your system that they have not seen then you know that is not a qualified person second you need even to check the academic background are they licensed what is the whole projects have they done they need to show you their previous projects and definitely you will not you will not it's it's possible to tell you someone is not qualified even when you interact with them right let's look at the services that your company offers in details because I looked at your portfolio you guys offer a couple of services it's not just solar energy and there's a couple of that so take us through the services in details well as I mentioned I come from a diverse technical background yes I have a bachelor's degree in IT and I have a diploma in electrical engineering so body systems was founded on on that foundation of diverse technical capacity so we offer renewable energy systems solutions solar home systems of grid systems energy storage systems we also offer IT solutions like for example intrusion detection systems CCTV electric fences and we are qualified in all that it's a full house all right so how do you show that the company offers quality services considering that there's a couple of in the full house there are a couple of services and products that you offer your clients so how do you show that it's quality for you guys well because it's not a one man show I ensure that we hire a qualified personnel and we go through a very rigorous training exercise before we engage someone we have to go for very several installations with someone that we decided to engage and we have to show them what it takes to give quality output and then after we have done a job we don't leave it there we follow up with a client to know how is the system responding and if there are any issues that arise then we we also ensure that we follow up okay and how are you guys in terms of marketing what's your marketing strategy to just put your name out in the space of energy sector currently social media marketing that's what we are doing most we don't have per se a marketing department but I think social media marketing is a sufficient and also even the quality of work that we do is work that speaks for itself yeah because most of even our jobs are referrals we do a job and someone likes it and they refer their friends couple of financial lessons since 2015 that's a couple of I'm so sure it has been roller coaster so I like to hear a couple of financial lessons that you plant along the way business first of all it's not easy to start a business it's very difficult to say that you're waiting for together enough capital to start a business I was employed before I decided to get into business and it never there's no time that came that I said I have enough money to start the business in fact I jumped off the cliff so they say jump jump of the cliff then you develop wings along the way so employment was not doing any any better I decided to quit maybe I'm not advising everyone to follow my model because you need at least to have capital when you started business but you'll never have enough okay that is so sure considering that with this motivational speak and also a serial entrepreneur in South Africa knows who's in the be quiet he's saying the same thing that you never have have enough capital to start just just that sure whatever you haven't just no no jump yes and how was the transition for your form being in the employment space to now just getting to your something of your own your business something that you love well it was a very difficult experience it was not easy I left employment in about October 2019 and it was not easy towards the end of that year business does doesn't just come because you need to to learn what happens in the field you need to get your hands dirty you need to learn from people who have been there and don't be choosy if someone tells you to go with them to the field and learn even sometimes you don't get a penny you just go and learn and after I quit employment about three four months then that is when COVID came and things were getting even worse luckily the fact that people now are at home they wanted to work from home there was that need for energy and in surplus because you know our Kenya power is not reliable and so many companies now had to install backup system solar backup systems for their employees who now start working from home so that is how things now started so COVID may have had a negative impact for some people but it also had a positive impact for others it was like a true so there was the side of positivity negative double soil so let's look at you mentioned something earlier on about when starting off and just be willing to learn take us through our job someone who held your hand along the way someone like a mentor who showed your way through in the space of just business aspect of it did you have a mentor yes I did have a mentor not not so much in the business aspect of it but on the technical aspect of it I was ready to learn I was ready to strip down my titles from my previous employer and that person is someone who has been in the field for quite long he's very well skilled he took me through what it takes what is needed for you to be sharpened in this field and I was I you know I I was very very willing and he's not only he's not alone the other mentors but is one who has been very pivotal yes and I understand that it is one thing to be with your mentor talking about learning a couple of things theoretical in a theory format then adding to the field to actually do the job that you guys were talking about so take us through your first project and how was the response from the market well let me start by saying I said I'm a strong champion for tivet education and this is because I did I did I took my degree first and my diploma came later even when I was employed and what I learned is that a theoretical knowledge is very different from what you find in the field nobody teaches teaches you some skills in class you only know them on paper once you get out the field it's different so I have done several projects I'm not sure I can even trace my first one but maybe I can talk about my latest my latest project was in Naivasha it was commissioned about two two days ago it was a solar water pumping project it went very well the client was happy and I can say I I I think I dedicate that project to to my mentor the one I just mentioned because we all all the the skills that I applied and what I learned what are the couple of steps or just the process you guys are putting in place to scale up the business in a couple of years no time frame giving you your space to just put on a type time frame right being a new year measures that you guys are put up to just scale up the business mainly I would say that we are looking to our words enhancing our technical capacity because we have a backlog of jobs that we are not able to sometimes even meet deadlines because the jobs are there but you don't want to give them to just anyone you want to give jobs to people who are qualified so I don't think it's much a problem of lack of jobs there but do we have the right people to to do those jobs so sometimes we force to pile them up do them slowly because that is the capacity that we have right now so what we are doing is training more people so that we have capacity to do even bigger jobs in the future a couple of challenges that you have been facing as a business well as you said renewable energy is expensive the the initial cost of setup is is quite expensive so some clients come expecting it's just something they can do and then they find you give them the actual position and they just share the idea you see now let's try that another day that is one of the challenges number two the government last year about mid last year slapped vat on solar products it was not there before so vat made it even more expensive and number three our April was making proposals to to to to try and restrict the growth of our suppress the group of solar industry because of introducing so many regulations license fees and that even though it hasn't gone through would be a major major blow how can we cut the problem when it comes to the challenge rather how can you cut the challenge of the expense like how expensive it is to initially acquire solar energy how can you cut that the challenge well first of all maybe the government can give of incentives on solar because they should try and make solar more accessible as opposed to make it inaccessible and then they can maybe even scrap beauty from solar then people can embrace the idea of sort of a community community-based approach towards having solar because if I do it alone it's very expensive if we join oh yes it is how the cost absolutely becomes a cheaper when you together make sense make sense so I can guys find your social media if they want to keep up this conversation if someone wants to get in this space or when it comes to energy solution potential clients how can people find your social media social media well I'll reach out to you well guys can reach me through Facebook and Instagram we have a page we have pages for both Instagram and and Facebook we have a website www.bodysystems.co.ke and if you if you look for body underscore systems you're gonna find it all right thank you very much Mark Kingaroo yes got it right you got it right thank you very much for creating time to be with us and talking about renewable energy and guys back at home remember you can follow this conversation across all our social media handles at Y2F4 channel at me Sheila Sheila thank you very much thank you for having me all right 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