Hi, a very good afternoon everyone, and I welcome you all to this session on a conversation with that so alumni. It is indeed a great pleasure for us to be collaborating with that so alumni network on such a platform where we will get to hear from our alumni about your life. After that so their careers and so much more. I can also see that besides our panel, we have other alumni joining us today for this meet so glad to see you all after such a long time and a warm welcome to all of you. Our alumni have established themselves as successful individuals in different fields, and we could not be any problem. Yes, the progress of an institute depends not only on the administration and the teaching staff, but also on the achievements and the developments of the students. We are extremely happy and proud that our alumni are an important part of that so family, and it is your success stories that contributes to the progress of our institute. So, last but not the least, I would like to thank all of you for your deep participation, as well as the support you have always given to your alma mater. And I welcome you all once again, and I hope that this meet will help you all to reconnect with your institute you help you reconnect with your teachers and your classmates. Now we don't taking up much time I would like to hand over the time to any King who will be the moderator for this session. So anything please take your time. My name is any King and I'll be the moderator for this session. So before we begin, let me first introduce our alumni panel. We have with us Mr Albert as sometime class of 2018, and he is the finance secretary of the alumni network. Miss Melle Venio Kira class of 2014. She's the general secretary of the alumni network and Mr Masevel, the two class of 2015, and he is the president of the alumni network. So before I get into the questions, I would like to give them the opportunity to briefly introduce themselves and let us know what they are currently up to. So we will start with Mr Albert, followed by Melle Venio and Mr Masevel. Let me take the time. Good evening, everyone. First of all, I give thanks to God at the same time the Department of History for giving me a privilege. Okay. And well, my name is Albert, and I'm the founder and the director of Clef North Music Academy. Currently, again, I'm serving as a finance secretary in that's all of the association and I'm working as I'm serving as a president in our U department of people. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, everyone. My name is Melle Venio Kira, and also currently I'm serving as the general secretary of that's alumni association. And come currently I'm holding the position of headmistress in Newton's Apple Public School Tamil Nadu. And also, yeah, thank you so much to the Department of History. And first of all, I want to say sorry, also I want to apologize because my network is not so good. So I cannot hear your voice properly also but hope things will go really well. Anyway, thank you so much. Hello, everyone. My name is Hashivalu too. I did my graduation from that's all in batch of 2015. Then I went for higher education for my master's degree in Nalini at Nalini University in Mami. And as soon as I completed my PG, I started teaching in Greenwood School, Kudah. I am presently president of that's alumni association and also actively engaging myself in student activities and social activities, doing my best to give out to the society and using my platform in schools and in whichever way I can with my ability very much into giving out to the society. Thank you. And I also would like to thank the history department, ma'am Tatumong and our moderator. Thank you. Thank you all for introducing yourselves to us. So to begin with the questions. The first question is from you. How does taking up commerce help prepare you for a career in opening a music academy and what do you aspire to? Thank you for the question. I hope now you can hear me right. Yeah, I hope everyone here. Yes, yes. Okay, yeah, because of foreign work. Actually, to set up the music academy, it was my plan from my high school stage only and so I take up the commerce because I expect that through commerce it will help me to grow my academy at the same time to fulfill my dream. So I take up as a commerce and it really helped me at the same time. Not only by taking up the commerce, but it really helped me by our lectures and all they are so humble at the same time they are so friendly. They really helped me and especially the Sir Rajesh and the Miss Henry and they really encouraged me at the same time they always support me, not only them, but majority of our lectures always support me. So I take up as a commerce and commerce helped me a lot to grow my business. Okay, thank you. Thank you. This question is from 11 year old. How did you like school in Tamil Nadu? And how was your journey up to become the half mysterious of the school? Can you please share some of your experiences and what motivated you to work outside of music education? Yeah. Okay, thank you so much for your question. Well, right after my graduation, I was quite confused with my career. And then I was getting a lot of pressure from my parents also from the cousins and relatives. It was my passion to become a teacher, but some of my cousins, you know, like disappointed me a lot and they were saying like, no, the teacher's salary are not good. And if you don't have a degree, how comes you are going to end up to become a teacher. By 2015, I took a beard from Bosco College, Bosco College, Nagaland, Dimapur, Nagaland. So after I finished my beard in 2016, I wanted to join a CBSE school. It was almost always my dream to join a CBSE school. So luckily, I go through the interview and I was working in Etanagar, and don't you follow Vidya Bhavan school. For three years, I was working as an assistant teacher. And in 2019, I got the opportunity to work as an academic coordinator in Tamil Nadu. So after working for one year, my heads gave me the chance to work as a vice principal.  So they gave me the position as a headmistress and currently I'm working as a headmistress in Newton's Apple Public School. And it's all because of that. So I'm what I am today. And I wanted to give thanks to all the principal to my principal and to the director and also to VP and all my lecturers. Thank you. This question is for Marcelville. What and who inspired you to become a teacher? This year is something for your experience and your story with us. Thank you, moderator. I was in my PG, gain my masters. I met a beautiful lady and she's a good friend. We used to have a good conversation from time to time and she said I should go in teaching line and choose that profession. But during that time, I did not think of teaching as a profession, to the least, what everybody feels before I think. And right after I finished my PG, I came and then 2018, we all had this general election, caught up little in this, I mean I was little engaged and busy in this election.  You cannot sit back at home being unemployed. It was not a good feeling. So I decided to go and face interviews and during that moment, it was in the month of November, December. And what I was getting was mostly job interviews in teaching lines for I started going for these interviews and I had two to three interviews in some of the good schools as well as college. And I finally got a call from Greenwood principal saying that I am selected and in that, from the beginning of 2019, I started my journey as a teaching. At the very outset, when I started, it was not as a choice, but as I eventually gradually started learning and teaching and experiencing myself as a teacher. It was very exciting and fun and I realized that I can be in this field of profession and then actually can do much and when I was, I had a lot of things to share and do for our society, but there was not a platform, but teaching was a very good platform. In fact, one of the best platform we ever have to build up good citizens and students to build them and mold and shape all that comes around by being a teacher. So I started enjoying and I actually am loving this profession now and I believe that teaching profession is, of course, it's a very noble job, but it can be a career for people who really want to have an impact and let our society grow in the right path. That is what I started feeling and it's almost three years now. I'm going two years plus and soon I will, I don't know, but this may be my career going for another professional degrees to add up and maybe keeping this over. Let's see the future holds, but the teaching profession is a very good and a noble one. I'm loving it. I'm enjoying it. Thank you. Can you please tell us how did the so prepare you for your careers and how your life has been after TETSO? Okay, before the others, friends, before they take up, I'll just share a few words, okay, what I have experienced in the TETSO and what that college have helped me, okay. College have provided a full of like platform, especially, we have so many activities in the college. It helped me to build up my computer level at the same time to stand in front of the people leading by the student council and I was serving as HGS, the GS and at the same time I was working with the YI and so many activities from there. I've learned so many things and at the same time to take up the responsibility I've learned from our college and I think our college is one of the best college to provide the platform all those things because I compare to my friends to other colleges. They are not providing like this kind of activities. So our college have so many activities where it's held, especially for the interpreters in order to start up a business, we need to fill up ourselves. So our college have really helped us to be interpreter as per my own learning, thank you. But my journey in TETSO, I chose TETSO College and it was a very good choice for me. My friends, we were all planning to study together but I did not follow them somewhere here and there but I wanted to be in TETSO. And that was a good thing, I chose, while I was in TETSO, I was a bit naughty and more of a casual like we all do when we are in college days, we think less of the consequences and joined to the most. I was that kind of student, I was not very good in academics, I was just copying up, just say I'm above average, at least I can say. But I was copying up with others and getting along with co-curricular activities. I like to participate in most of the events, if there's sports, I like football and the others. I would try to participate in literary contests or whatever contests are going on, I would like to be part of it. And also taking classes and joined to the most, we had some of the best lectures and assistant professors. I got a lot of knowledge and wisdom, I got from them, of course knowledge and they were there, they were there for us and I took the most of it, I benefited a lot. Of course the administration, the school authorities, they were there to always guide us and take the school, I mean the college and the students to the right direction. We were not directionless, most of the time we were guided, of course they are in need for strict control. Sometimes we tend to be rebellious but that was a good thing because if not I would have strayed from the bad which I was going to be if not controlled. So that was a good thing and everything has a good, nobody builds a society for bad things to happen, only for the good and college exists for the good, for the students community only, I realized. And I had the most fun and enjoyment and my academics, I graduated, I learned a lot and then I persuaded for my higher education, of course, BG in Lumami. And then all the things which I have accumulated and taken the opportunities in learning this English proficiency class, refining myself in the communication. And whatever motor skills and aptitudes I have received and the learning I have received, I was able to execute in my PG's and ultimately what I have imbibed and inculcated just led me to who I am today and it's because of the college, my whole learning process and till now I am enjoying a lot and because of all this. And then now as being part of this, that's our alumni network, it's a great platform, another where we can inspire and encourage, connect, contribute together. When we were students we enjoyed a lot too. Now we are going to be much more bigger than before and being part of this alumni and being part of this team network, I believe we are going to be seeing some of the notable students or alumni of that source and soon we will be interacting with each and every one of the notables, especially the alumnus who are across the country as well as the board, other countries, and who are successful like we have our Albert entrepreneur, we have our academician Ale and they are people. So, that's our college has been a great platform for us and now we are going to utilize this alumni platform, this alumni network to reach out to our alumni because I believe many are productive, being independent and reaching out to the society and in their own capable and able shoulder doing things. So, I'm very excited and looking forward as a family of that so and also now in alumni network. Thank you. What memories did you take away from that so and also the challenges you face as a student here at the so college and even after you. Okay, I'll be the first one to respond this. So, college life poses a lot of challenges in front of you, as everyone knows.  Whereas in my school life, I was always dependent on my teachers and my friends and also my parents, but after getting into a college life, it teaches me to be independent. So, it makes me stronger and it teach me to fight my own battles. And I also make a very serious about my careers, and then I make decision that will affect my future all by myself as in school live or parents did for me. But after joining that so I should say like I became very confident as well as I was able to make my own choice.  Thank you. Hey, hello everyone. My name is David. And I was supposed to be part of 2013 best but I dropped out in 2012. I gave an interview through consultancy and moved to Bangalore in the working in BPO, but just want to share a few things about the life in Tetsu College. That was in 2010 when I, when my uncle took me to Tetsu College, I took admission there. And I was not born and raised in Nagaland. But after getting admission in Tetsu College, I was in hostel. I learned how to speak Nagamis and the friends in hostel, they taught me their different dialects that they taught me about culture. The lectures were staying in staff quarters. They were very supportive. I was in commerce stream. So the lectures there were like very supportive. They were they like whenever I had any doubts, even in hostel, the one of the lectures used to give me a separate time to study well. Because there were very few students from commerce background during these those days. But overall, I learned many things apart from the personal apart from the personal things. They taught me about like how how how the culture is there in Nagaland and then I know like I'm not doing the best after the college life. But I still cherish the moments I spend in Tetsu College and seeing the progress right now, seeing all the activities happening around the infrastructure. I feel so proud. And whenever the friends asked here like where did you study, I can proudly say I I studied from Tetsu College. Thank you. What are you doing to stay creatively active to grow in your chosen career? I would like to add a few points here. Right now I'm working as a business analyst in a reputed IT company. It's a software company. And I see like not most of us are in IT background. But in future, if I get a chance, I would like encourage our fellows to grow in IT sector. Like there are many opportunities, not only in technical side, but in the project management side and they're like in sales. So there are many opportunities in the IT sector as well. So if I get opportunity, I would sure I would like to like I would stay connected in the alumni society and I will try to share as much as can from my end. How is building connections and networks with people important, especially when you are planning or beginning to start your career? Let me repeat. How is building connections and networks with people important, especially when you are planning or beginning to start your career? Okay, I'll take the time. Yeah, supplementing to what David has said. It's always a fortunate to have an IT in our own team and working with people like you. So yes, not in future, but soon will be needing your help and you since we are an alumni of that so and we have a bigger dream and a desire to give up to the college to the students community and to our society in general. We need each one of us to communicate and cooperate and finally do something for our betterment of our college and our society. And that is what we are supposed to do. We are part of this college and being an alumni, we ought to give something. And that is what I expect from alumni. Thank you, David. And moderator, the question is having connectivity or networking is the best. In this time of present 21st generation century, we need lots of connection and to get a job, to do something, to accomplish something or to work out, talk out something, we need help and we all know that having connection with one another is always a good thing. We cannot be strangers to one another all the time. We eventually have to communicate and start talking and that is what we are trying to do as alumni platform, connecting with our alumni here in India. People are scattered everywhere after we finished our graduation, we all go back to our places and we pursue and we go different places. But the thing is that we need to come back together because we know that we are all a graduate and we are going to be productive on one or the other way. We are not going to be sitting back at home and being useless. No, we are not going to do that. That is not a good citizen that cannot happen. We need to be a responsible citizen and we have people from different backgrounds. We have entrepreneurs, we have teachers, we have academicians, we have ITs, we have industrialists, we have people from different, different, capable, able to field in professions. So connecting with each other makes things a lot more easier. And that is what we the alumni platform, we the alumni networks are trying and we will be soon looking forward to connect with our alumni in a more concrete manner which we are on the set. We are commencing with those activities in the coming time. Those things will happen and then I hope that our alumni whoever is connected now and in future, if we are connected through WhatsApp or Facebook or Instagram, I hope that we continue to connect one, keep in touch with one another so that we will make a bigger impact share and give our ideas and do out, chalk out things together. That is our idea as our alumni network is planning for. Definitely, the collaboration is very much required and this platform, it's a like, it's a very good thing that we have this platform. We can collaborate. We belong to different background, but this platform will help us to collaborate with each other, share their thoughts and it will be helpful for our new students in Tessa College as well. So it's proud to be part of this society. Yeah. Before we start our career or before we set up anything like connectivity it's very important at the same time, you know, like, since I was in the, I was in the Q3, I didn't know anything about the technology at the same time, nothing about this through connectivity like Facebook or any like Instagram or anything. But right after I joined that so our college provides so many connectivity in the ways of Instagram in the ways of Twitter, so many things there I've also learned at the same time for me to set up our own business. I didn't take much time because I have seen so many practically in our college, how the network connectivity plays important role in the business. So during my second year that is the become for semester I set up my own business that is not music academy and I also started with my own connected that is like Instagram pages I open out and I can I open the page of the Facebook. So many things that I have learned so many things practically from our college not only the knowledge button to set up the business these were the important tools that we need to use and I take up all those things. That's why for me, it takes really easy to I mean set up my own business and it plays and very important rule at the same time. I should say not only the business matter but connectivity blessing a very important rule like our get so alumni to see so many people are in different places but through this connectivity. We are here as a one family and the same time to discuss the things at the same time to share our ideas to share our plans to our genius at the same time to meet as a one family. So I should say the connectivity bless a very important rule to be lab or in order to set up our own life. Thank you. Most of the students are in dilemma as to what to pursue after graduation. So when you were at that stage, what did you do? Okay, let me take up the first okay. I should say I'm in my own experience with many of our NACA people. We take our plan too late. Okay, that's why we are in delay at the same time we are stuck where to go when we reach the final semester. So I would like to encourage to our present sister. That also not in the one plan but you should take up one or two plans so that one if you step down you can go up with another step. Likewise, for me, for me there was no dilemma for me because I've already planned for my high school stage at the same time as soon as whatever I take up the plan it was to achieve it. That's why for me when I reached first and second semester, my plan was already in the final stage. So at the same time when I reached the second I mean second year I've already established it and I can finally I started working with my own business at the same time I was studying. So for me as soon as I graduated also there was no question where to go or what to do but I have already planned. That's why now some of our seniors are working with me. Some of our brothers and sisters are with me. That's why I'm here today. And I would actually like one thing the main points is I would like to say take the plan in advance so that there will be no question what to do where to go after your creation. Thank you. I was also very clear that once I finish complete my graduation, I would also go for higher education. But most cases people are always in this crossroad where they are confused and yeah like you said they are in dilemma whether to pursue higher education or stop there or do something else or they feel helpless. And sometimes they are even hopeless of themselves that they can even go for higher education or they can go now do their fine fine jobs and do something out of themselves. If as for me I like I said I was very clear. I wanted to go for higher education. In fact, I applied for the Central University in Nehu and NU here and in both in NU there was a during that time there was a domestic violence that seats those indigenous people were unable to get through and the outsiders are getting through. So those are when there was a recruitment in Nehu it's those issues were there. Well, we were well we applied. So I did not go for entrance exam, but in NU I was in waiting list and that did not stop me. I took admission in university for my master's program in political science. Then, a week later I got a call from this NU political science department, saying that cities available are you will join. I said, yes, I just left and then next day I took taxi to Sumo and the other day I reached. And that was my clear vision that I wanted to go for higher education. There was no stopping me, but like I would, I would say that for many people and those who have recently graduated and those people who always come in this crossover thinking we have a lesser percentage or I don't know I'm pretty more helpless where should I go and what should I do. I think I what not I think my suggestion would be my advice would be that apply wherever you want to. And even if you don't get there also, there are universities here in our college, which will give you PG programs in some subjects which you pursue, which you want, which is available for you. So, no matter what go for higher education that is what I advise. And, and if there are people who want to stop and do not go for higher education then definitely since you are already a graduate and you have a degree. Definitely you will be lending up in one or the other way getting a job. No doubt there is no doubt. So no need to worry about your future career is just that you have to start with it. You have to begin somewhere and you can end up in one tomorrow or next year you can be doing something what you like on later you can find the purpose or where you were actually feeding in or maybe you were always born to be there for the job. So, even if you don't go for higher education, you should just start with any job seeking out, seeking going for interviews and those things where you can feed yourself in and try yourself and explore yourself. You'll be surprised to know that you are capable of many things and even if you are doubting yourself, you will eventually learn that you are and you can do things and that is the good thing that we all learn. And that is what I would give my advice to those people who ever come to this crossroad, but people who are very clear with your idea of going for higher education and others, please go for that, please go. That is what I would say. You all know that the present pandemic has affected everyone in every field. So this question is for Albert. As an entrepreneur, how has the pandemic affected you? Thank you for the question. Yeah. The pandemic has really affected us, but when we look back to the other side for me, it was not affecting, indeed, it really helped me at the same time it washed my helping. I mean, through this pandemic, I've learned so many things. At the same time, yeah, our academy was closed, but inside we were working a lot and I should say that through this pandemic, I've achieved one goal. That is, after 10 years, I was planning to open up this, my left-leaf music academy as a Bachelor of Music courses in Nakaland to set up as a college and I've already got through the approval from the Trinity Rock School, London. So maybe because of this pandemic, maybe I have some plan at the same time. Actually, I was planning to work this after some few years back, but through this pandemic, I have no work. I didn't go to the office. I didn't go to the academy. I was just sitting at home. From there, I just calmed my plan that I need to do something through this lockdown. So I started thinking up and I have called up, I have mailed it to the Trinity Rock School, London, and I was talking to the NPS support as well.  So I need to start working on that. So through this pandemic, for me, yeah. Of course, and financially, it's really affected us. Our students were locked down. They didn't come for the training also. Our staff, they were in different places. Maybe April, May, June, I was fully stopped and I didn't do anything. My income was also zero for three months, but from the July, we started online classes and now we came a little bit to the normal. But with that three months, I should thank God. I should thank this pandemic that I've achieved my big dream. I want to take up as a new responsibility. Thank you. This question is for Melle Vanu and Marcelo. As an educator, what key bits of advice can you give to the students on how to cope up with the studies and how to keep themselves motivated during these difficult times? As an educator, as a teacher, I would say that the students community has been wasted a lot. I mean, to say that we have all lost everybody in this whole world, this entire country and our state. Every nails have lost and have been affected. We can say emotionally, financially, mentally, or psychologically. In every field, we have been affected. But I want to emphasize more on students who were more affected and impacted. I want to say that because students community and the students, the generation Z who are still studying. unable to realize and see the bigger picture that it is them who is going to suffer the worst. We are there, we are working, we get salary, we get paid or not. We are already in that field where we can land up in somewhere and there are things possible for us and we are all working. The farmers are again back in the fields, the teachers, the workers, the government officials, the authorities, everybody is doing the job again, doing the duties, responsibilities, performing, but the students community are still unable to wake up and the schools, institutes are still yet to fully function and open up, resume classes normally like we used to do. The traditional manner of teaching, lecturing and students in the forward, we have realized that hundreds and hundreds of years ago, lecture method was very traditional and but today we have realized that technology may be very vast and it has reached out and can connect and there are so many things but even in the advanced countries there were limitations you could see. There were inconveniences with this technology with the advancement. Yes, no doubt we were limited, we couldn't do much with these online classes and what I want to say is that my point is that the students community future and whatever they are supposed to learn the whole year, the whole syllabus of a book, which they were to be introduced properly and taught properly, they had not learned anything. Getting notes, getting video explanation, getting audio explanation, it's limited and it's not even that beneficial at the end and they have not been able to learn this whole year and they are going to be promoted or they are going to this next standard, next level and they are going to lose and what I worry is for the college students also because they are going to face difficulties. My classic example would be this recent exam conducted, this NEED exam now Naglain out of these 28 states and 8 union territories, Naglain was the worst performing state with just 40.7% with just 736 candidates passing out of this 2000 plus. We are the worst performing state when it comes to this NEED exam of class 12, students aspiring to be doctors, indentals, medias or nursing or whichever field. We're talking about the toughest exam in the world, JEE engineering for our Nagas. Again, we performed very bad. Of course, we're not the least in this regard, but we performed very bad and while we were performing in this bad, other states we're performing very, very good. For instance, the state of Odisha, the state of Maharashtra, the state of Delhi, male candidate got the full mark, 720 out of 728. In this time of pandemic, this is a historic achievement for him and during this time of pandemic. So there are instances where people are performing outshining and flying colors while we are going down. That is what I feel our Nagas, especially the student community, are unable to realize and see. And that is what we need to motivate and encourage and need to push the students. That is what I feel. Nothing much can be done now. We cannot take the syllabus and finish and wrap up and whatnot. What I want to do is that motivate and encourage my students. And that is what I'm doing now. Most of my classes, I keep on motivating and encouraging them because the textbook which I'm going to teach is not going to be very helpful now because I need to bring them back. They were sleeping as long as they want to play games. They want to and doing not activities at home, but they have ignored the books and the education and the future is not going to ignore them. If they keep on ignoring the books now and they are unable to wake up from this pandemic comfort zone, then I fear that they are going to be the worst present generation, the worst students community, whom we will be seeing in not only 2020, but this will go until 2021. It always take a transition. So I believe that I, the most, the least we can do is now to encourage and motivate and wake our students community. That is what I feel. As the two colleges celebrating its 25th anniversary this year, what message would you like to convey to the college? A big congratulations to our college performing the second best in the state in UG program, getting three gold medalists on top of the list, and there are other students who got a good percentage and they are outshining the other colleges. And I'm so happy that our colleges are giving programs of BCAA, they are introducing BBA, they are introducing master's program, which are a very applauding and a big achievement, which I'm very, very happy for our college. And I believe our college has that potential still carrying that same standard and going to the next level achieving and getting the certificate and achieving something bigger. That is what that is always for. And of course, that is what top, anything that tops it. And that is what our college is doing it. During this time of pandemic, we are unable to have this jubilee, silver jubilee. Our college is very young and it has reached its jubilee. And finally, we are going to do it hopefully. I would like to say that I'm very much grateful to That's All College and this big celebration, which could have been more fun and exciting. But I would say that it has been this beautiful journey for this That's All family, of course, for the teachers and the authorities and the providers and the founders of this family, That's All family. I'm very much blessed to be part of it. So I would like to say that thank you so much That's All and a very, very big and massive respect and appreciation and would be giving out a message soon for our jubilee also. That is what I wanted to say. I'm very much happy and congratulations for the success of these 25 years and going to the sixth. I'm very much happy. Thank you. First of all, I will say a big thank you to our college for celebrating us 25 years. Our college models says strive for excellence. And not only the model, but we are implying in a practical life that every year we produce the gold medalist. This year also we produce three. It's an outstanding performance. We're very thankful. At the same time, we are really proud to be a That's All family. And our college is not only based on the like teaching only education sector, like only not theory, but practically as well, our colleagues is outstanding. Not only the both practically and theory, we are doing best.  At the same time, for the education sector, I get a mixed sector also we are doing best and we are expecting much better in this to come as well. And thank you so much. Lastly, I would like to encourage to our brothers and sisters who are here today. I would like to say like, first of all, we need to believe in ourselves. At the same time, we should take every opportunity as a challenge in order to compete this competitive world. That's like, that's what I want to say. Thank you. Hello, everyone. I hope you're able to hear me clearly. I'm having some network issues today. But it's so great to see our panelists today. Okay, Mushaville and Albert speaks so confidently. It's so great to hear from you and to interact with you guys. And it makes me feel very proud because I have taught both of you.  What I'd like to ask you is this how much of what you had studied in your classes in your courses has actually helped you in your professional field. Yes, sir. Thank you so much for you have been a teacher and I have learned a lot from you and Miss Abu. I always remember Miss Abu and you how you were and then how jolly and you were so interactive, friendly, and then we were so comfortable with you. I still remember we taking classes of these English proficiency class after class after our college classes and then enjoying a lot and you helping us to prepare for us for the future and learning so many English words, which I'm still very terrible and still learning a lot. But thank you so much, sir. And those which you have the that's all family has given us the teachers has taught us it came into life. Those were our living testament like you say that I mean those things which you can see on us and we are able to execute those things because we eventually did not know anything. We learn from you from our teachers and they have given us that knowledge and we are able to comprehend and make a bigger I mean with that we can we have been able to use it in a platform where we are today. So I'm very much thankful. I learned from you and that all those things which are in me is part of you guys which have shared a blessing. Those things have been wonderful things. Those wonderful things have been part of our life now. So I'm very much grateful to you sir. Yes, I would like to say in this platform that I'm very much grateful to all of the teachers whoever has taught me. Thank you so much. Okay, let me also take this time. Thank you so much sir and jam. Good to see you. You will be teaching us from the first semester till third semester. I guess right sir. The one we take the practically at the same thing what do you have dot subject actually I was working in the bank also I say say bank for the months of three months I got the opportunity to work here but because of my workload in academia I just left the job and when I work in the bank I've learned that whatever we take in the classes subject related to the banking it was really practically I faced the problem how the banking people deal with the people it was so rude but when I go and when I started working in the bank the one you teach and the practically I have worked it was it brings back and a reflect back in my life that I had and as soon as I start working in the bank I remember your subject I remember how you have taught us and secondly I would also like to thank you sir like you have taught us in English not only the theory but you have making us group division and making us a video competition and that's we have starting our that's where we started to make our own video editing with our own professionally so that video editing it really helped me till now I mean in academia as well because these days we are dealing with the video editing we do sending to the student for recordings and also that's other things that we have learned from what you have taught us thank you. Okay before we proceed for further questions since our third panelist Malini she is unable to connect back so she has sent a message we should like to convey to that so she wrote like this to the dear principal teaching staff and students it is ultimately the seriousness the devotion and the discipline with which you approach your learning that will shape your future wishing all the success and a great future ahead 30 congratulations my best wishes and greetings to the college on celebrating the silver jubilee so that was the message sent by Malavino so if there's anyone else who wants to convey the message from the participants you can take your time now so to end up our session I would like to give time to Samira for the vote of thanks. Okay thank you Ani for the time it was indeed a very refreshing and wonderful experience to attend the session and as we all know this was a collaboration between the department of the street and the college and the Detsu alumni network so it would be incomplete to end the session without acknowledging those individuals who have made this session memorable and successful once so in the outset I would like to thank the three panelists for your valuable time and for coming here and then sharing your experience and then sharing your thoughts and imparting all the experience that you have gained throughout the years to all of us so we are so thankful to all of you and at the same time I would also like to thank our brother David for attending the session slowly and then sharing your experience to all of us and at the same time I would like to thank our assistant team and all the teachers for in spite of your busy schedules you have come here and then you attended the session so we are so grateful to all of you for your time and at the same time I would also like to thank the department of history and particularly the the participants from the department for coming up with this wonderful session where we can meet the alumni and learn from them so thank you for coming up with this amazing session where all of us have learned something so last but not least I would also like to thank all the participants like who have attended the session and without which this session would not have been successful so I hope you believe that all of us have learned something new from this session I know since this is first of its kind and especially since we are doing it online I know we might not be comfortable and there might be some technical problems here and there but at the end of the day I think all of us here we have learned and experienced something new through this session so once again I would like to thank everyone for coming here and attending the session and I hope you believe that even in the coming days we will be able to organize this kind of session and have this kind of interaction so once again thank you all very much and have a lovely week thank you so much


Now, YouTube ads and Facebook ads can be some of the most powerful tools that you'll use to market your music out of everything, I mean everything in the music marketing landscape. But I see a lot of artists get discouraged from using them either because they don't understand the difference between the platforms, they don't know if they make sense for their current artist stage, or sometimes they wonder if one should be used over the other and if they should be splitting their budget to put into one instead of trying to split it between the both of them.  What I want to do for this video is get into the differences between Facebook and YouTube ads. When would you possibly need one? What are they good for? And how they fit into the bigger music marketing plan? Let's get into it. What's going on? My name is Kory, music marketing co-founder, country brand agency. And today, what I want to talk to you about is the differences between Facebook ads and YouTube ads. Short answer, they're both pretty effective and they're both great and they both do a great job at doing what they need to do. Now, in a perfect world, you will run both at the same time, meaning that if you have the budget for both, you will have a well-optimized Facebook or Instagram ad running, you will have a well-optimized YouTube ad running. But I get it, not every artist has that type of money and sometimes you're forcing to a situation where you have to pick between running the YouTube ad or Facebook ad and that leaves you wondering, am I making the right decision? Does this advertising platform make sense for my bigger goal with my music? And how do I know that, right? So I'm here to ease some of those doubts. I'm here to give you some baseline differences between the two that we tend to think of and we're picking which one we should use for a client or a project. And hopefully that helps you out in making a decision on which advertising platform makes the most sense for your music goals. Now, before we get into all of that, come and follow me on Instagram and TikTok. Links will be in the description below. Come talk to me. Come engage with me. Come give me some video ideas. All that good stuff. So during this video, I'm going to be judging both platforms based off of three criteria. That is, the targeting options, the ease of optimization, and then which one gets the better results. And by results, I mean conversions, click-throughs, sweet, sweet streams, all that cool stuff that artists like to see from their paid advertisements. And just to put a little bit more clarification into this, when I talk about Facebook ads, I'm talking about Facebook and Instagram ads. If you've ever ran ads from those platforms and you know that you have to run your Instagram ads from the Facebook ad platform. So sometimes I change them out or interchange them out. Same thing with YouTube ads. Technically, they're called Google ads. Like, that's technically the word for them. You know, you run them through the Google ad platform, but I just tend to call them YouTube ads because we're running ads on YouTube, you know. So if I, at some point in this video, happen to interchange them, please don't get confused. Google ads are YouTube ads. YouTube ads are Google ads. Facebook ads and Instagram ads all are the same. So the first thing that I like to tell artists to consider when trying to decide between the YouTube ad and the Facebook ad is the targeting. What type of artist or demo are you looking to crack into and try to insert your music into? Now with Facebook ads, most of your audience targeting comes from either keywords, custom audiences, or look-alike audiences. Custom audiences are people that have performed a certain action around your profile. So followed you, liked the video, seen the ad, all that type of stuff. Look-alike audiences are audiences that have been built around some type of data point. So one of those custom audiences we talked about, pixel data, keyword data, it's just pretty much Facebook using their algorithm to find people that look like another data source. And then you also have your keywords, right? So keywords are, you know, exactly what they sound like. Words that Facebook is aggregated that you can use to target people based on similar interests and things like that. The problem with the Facebook ad keyword system is that it's pretty limited. I'm pretty sure that if you've run an ad at some point, you try to target an artist that doesn't exist on Facebook. And as of now, I can't tell you why it is. Like I don't know what criteria they put out there to determine who becomes the keyword and who doesn't. There are like big artists who aren't keywords on the Facebook platform and then I'll see like a smaller artist. And I'm like, how did you get on here? Like how did you get here? As of now, I can't tell you why certain artists are keywords and other artists aren't, but I know one thing and that it's pretty annoying and it's pretty limited. What I found myself having to do time and time again is that if we get a client who's trying to crack into a very specific niche, let's say like Horacore or something like that, then we have to get pretty creative on how we put the keywords together. Sometimes we have to do like and targeting and put different keywords together. Sometimes we have to go like super adjacent to the niche and start targeting interests. So like for that example, I may target people who like horror movies and rap music or something like that to try to hit those people. But Facebook doesn't really let you get super, super specific because once again, everything isn't in the keyword section that they allow you to use. When we get into YouTube, YouTube has a much wider variety when it comes to targeting. Their main audience options are actual audiences. So ones that YouTube has put together, they have placement targeting so you can run your ad to very specific videos. They have keyword targeting as well. And you know, since YouTube deals a lot more with long tail keywords, you can get super creative and get a lot more varied with the keywords that you use on YouTube ads. And then they also have another type that I can't think of off the top of my head right now. It's not coming to me, but let's just stick on those right. The placement, the audiences and the keywords. Those things are what I think make YouTube, YouTube ads superior to Facebook ads, at least in the targeting position. Because with YouTube ads, you can get extremely specific. The example that I always give to clients is that if you feel like, if you feel like your potential fan would like, let's say trippy red, the baby and the weekend, right? On Facebook, those things may not exist as keywords and you won't really be able to target those fans directly. Whereas with YouTube, you could target those artists' keywords, right? So you could type in the baby as a keyword, trippy red as a keyword, new trippy red music, all that type of stuff. And then you can actually run your ad or your video as an ad to their video. So you can take your video directly to a trippy red video or directly to a the baby video and basically siphon fans off that way. So targeting alone, I have to give it to YouTube. Like that's one of the best things about YouTube ads is that you can get super, super niche. So if you're an artist that finds himself in a very specific niche and you feel like you've been having trouble, you know, finding your targeting on Facebook ads, then Google ads or YouTube ads may be better off for you for that exact reason. Like when we get clients that are like hyperpop clients or like once again, like Horakor, like I mentioned earlier, usually we go straight to YouTube because I know I can target like, you know, a Horakor artist on YouTube way easier than I could on Facebook and that just gives me a big advantage in building their artists within that niche that they need to be in. So off of targeting alone, I gotta give it to Google ads. I gotta give it to YouTube ads. That's one point for them because of how specific you can get with your targeting and how deep into the niche you can really build yourself when you understand the niche that you're trying to build yourself within. So let's go over the next point. And that point is optimization, right? So which ad platform has the best optimization features? Which one allows you to get the best version of an ad that you can possibly get? Now with Facebook ad, their optimization is 100% machine learning. They have their own algorithm, their own machine learning that inputs all the data that you're getting as your ad runs and they crunch numbers and put stuff together to determine like, hmm, we need to put this ad over here because it does better over here than when it goes over here. Which gives Facebook ad a huge advantage because it eliminates human error, right? Like if you don't really know how to optimize an ad or what to cut out or what to fix, then you could mess up an ad, you know what I'm saying? To say it nicely. But Facebook takes this away because they handle a bulk of the optimization for you. There are still little things that you can change about an ad that you have to manually optimize. For example, if a piece of content isn't working, you have to go in and change it out to another piece of content that may perform better. Same with the keywords and all that stuff. But once you have set up a winning ad, Facebook continues to optimize it as long as you let the ad run. Now, typically it takes a Facebook ad about five to seven days to hit the optimization point. And then from there, it starts to self-optimize the longer that you let it run. Which once again is a huge thing with Facebook ads and also why most advertisers preach to you not to turn off a performing ad or a good performing ad because if you turn it off, then you pretty much kill the optimization that the ad has been doing. Versus if you let it run. In theory, it continues to optimize itself and get cheaper over time until the point that it oversaturates the audience. But you know, that's a video for another day. But it continues to optimize itself until it oversaturates the audience. Thus making it, you know, like a, what's the word I'm looking for? Like a self-fulfilling ad. Does that make sense? An ad that is continuously fixing itself, if you will. Now, when we look over to YouTube ads, YouTube ads have a little bit of that self-authorization as well. They also have their own algorithm. They also have their own machine learning that takes the data and pushes the ad in a certain direction. But depending on what type of audience targeting you're doing with the Google ad, you have to manually optimize a lot of things. So if you're doing a placement based ad, you have to go in and cut out the bad performing ads or Google will continue to spend money on the placements that aren't working. Same with keywords, same with any audience sets that you pick, really same with any of the audience-based targeting that you can do on Google ads.   So if you're someone that's lazy, then that may not appeal to you as much because with a Facebook ad, you could really get the ad to a good point, set it up and then not touch it and you'll be good. With a YouTube ad, you're going to have to continually check in on it to make sure that money is still being spent in the place that makes the most sense whether that be on the right placements, on the right locations, or on the right audience that you pick. You have to time and time again check in on it. Like when I'm running a YouTube ad, I'm usually checking in on my ads. Like once every other day, if we're running like a pretty large budget, if it's a smaller budget, like once every other three days, but with my Facebook ads, I can look at them like once or twice a week and be perfectly fine. Once we've gotten past the initial optimization phase. So once again, if you're someone that doesn't trust your own judgment on optimizing an ad, if you want something that's 100% machine learning base or majority machine learning base, then stick with Facebook ads and Instagram ads. But if you're cool with doing that manual optimization, if you don't mind going in and adding little tweaks here and there to the ad to get it to be the best that it can be, then YouTube ads aren't really a challenge. And like I said, that optimization is really just unchecking boxes and removing things that aren't working as well. So it's not hard at all. Now lastly, let's get into results, right? And this is a question that I get a lot. Which ad type gets you the best conversions? Which ad type is most likely to get people over to your Spotify or Apple or DSPs and all that stuff? Which ad type is going to make people actually click through and listen to the music right? Now, majority of the time, I'm not saying all the time, but majority of the time, my best converting ads have been Facebook or Instagram ads. The thing that I have noticed is that Instagram ads seem to be much better at getting people from point A to point B. Meaning that if you want a person to leave the platform and go to a DSP or go to some other platform, Instagram ads nine times out of 10 would do a much better job of that than YouTube ads. YouTube ads are really great for building brand awareness within a very specific niche. So if you remember earlier, I said that YouTube ads, you can target damn near anything as long as it exists with on the YouTube platform. So as long as the artist who's fan base you're looking to tap into has a thousand subscribers and has music on the platform, you can siphon off their fan base. Whereas you may not be able to do that with every artist who's base you want to target with Facebook and Instagram ads, right? So with that being said, if you have a really specific niche or demo that you're trying to tap into, YouTube ads are the much better option because you're able to go directly to those artists and their fans and start siphoning off traffic almost immediately. Whereas with Facebook ads, you may have to do a little bit of experimentation with the keyword targeting in order to get the same people that you would get with a YouTube ad. When it comes to results there, the big thing that we look at with YouTube ads is of course the views and the view rate and seeing which one is actually getting people that are interested in the content. But then we also tend to look at other outside metrics to see if those people are actually converting over. Now, ironically, YouTube ads, to me, aren't the best way to grow a YouTube account. I actually think that Instagram and Facebook ads are the best way to grow subscribers on a YouTube account. The thing that we have seen our YouTube ads have the biggest effect on is Apple Shazam. One thing that I've always noticed with every client that we run on YouTube ads with is that once we start running YouTube ads, that's Shazam start going up on Apple. I've seen it have an effect on the Spotify algorithm and the related artists that get populated on the artist page because those people, right, the people that you're targeting that like these specific artists that are going over the Spotify adding to their playlist and now that's affecting the algorithm and starting to push you out to the right people. So I've seen it have an effect on there in ways that Instagram ads, I won't say it didn't have an effect, but it's a lot slower in that aspect, you know. Because of once again, you're not able to target very specific niches and very specific demos. So when it comes to results, I mean they both get you good results, you know. They both get you clicks. Facebook and Instagram ads definitely get you cheaper clicks. Like if you have a good performing Instagram ad, you could get a 10 cent cost per click or 20 cent cost per click, even cheaper. I've had ads before with like five cents cost per click. On the YouTube ad side, I think the cheapest I've ever had a YouTube ad, cost per click B was maybe like 58 or 60 cents. Typically our ads tend to be around 70 cents to like a dollar and 50 cents. So like you give up a lot of that conversions for the brand awareness that you're getting from the YouTube ads versus Instagram ads, you get a lot more conversions and you may get less specific brand awareness. Like you may be pushing yourself to people that don't care about your type of music. But the change off or the exchange rate is the conversion that you may get. So apples to apples, apples to oranges, it all depends on what you're looking to get in your particular campaign. So I would say this, if you're someone that in the moment would rather have conversions over brand awareness, then run Facebook and Instagram ads. Because once again, those nine times out of 10 are going to get you much more conversions than a YouTube ad would get. If you're looking for brand awareness building and brand awareness building within a very specific niche, then go for YouTube ads. Because once again with YouTube ads, you have a lot more control over the type of people and the type of artists that you market yourself to. You have a lot more flexibility there and you can get really creative. Like I said, with YouTube ads, since they're really big on long tail keywords, the keyword marketing is phenomenal. It's crazy, you know what I'm saying? The placement marketing, brazen. You have a good targeting list. You will be able to knock out your target demo much, much faster than you would on the Facebook ad side. But once again, if I'm being real with all of you, ideally you will run both at the same time and they will kind of cover each other, right? So you will have the Facebook ad that's bringing you in conversions, is getting you the subscribers and the followers and pushing people over to the DSPs. And then you will have this YouTube ad that's building your brand awareness within this niche and this community that you really want to tap into. You have both of those things running at the same time. You have a very powerful advertising effect that just greatly impacts your music marketing campaign and does great results when you have a high performing Instagram ad or Facebook ad and a high performing YouTube ad. So ideally, you know what I'm saying? Once again, I recommend that you do both at the same time. But if you can't do both at the same time for budget reasons, then pick the one that makes the most sense for your situation. Are you going for conversions or are you going for brand awareness? Do you want some brand awareness with a lot of conversions? Facebook ad.   So there's no right or wrong answer. There is no better than the other. I hate to break it to you guys. They were looking for that West better than which one is the best. There really isn't a better than the other. They both have their pros. They both have their cons. But in the best case scenario, you get the most advantage out of it when you're using them both at the same time. One last thing I would like to add though is that if you're in the phase of your career, you're looking at monetization, then they both do extremely well. Like Facebook ads are great for selling products and selling merch. YouTube ads are great for selling products and selling merch, especially if you switch your ads over to like a Google search ad and those type of ads, which is a whole another video for a different day. They both do really well in the e-commerce department just to be real with you. So when it comes to that, I wouldn't say they're the same, but they both do really well. But if you're at the brand awareness stage of your career, where you're just looking to get fans and get music and get people clicking over, then once again, weigh the pros and cons of each and see what makes the most sense for your situation. If you need mass brand awareness, go YouTube. If you need mass conversion, then go Facebook, go Instagram. And once again, if you can do both, then do both. And before we leave off, personally, my favorite ad platform is YouTube ads. Like I love running YouTube ads. I personally think they're a lot easier to maintain. Once you get it set up, I think that they're less confusing than Facebook and Instagram ads. Not to say that I think they're confusing them, but when I first got started, I understood YouTube ads way faster than I understood Facebook and Instagram ads. And it took me a minute to really catch on to how to run a good Instagram YouTube ad. I got good YouTube ads in like a good three weeks, you know what I'm saying? Just from running them consistently.   So there's just something to consider. That's just my personal favorite. But that makes me think, what are you guys' personal favorite advertising platform? Do you like Facebook ads better? Do you like YouTube ads better? Do you like another advertising platform better than both of these? Let me know in the comment section below. Help the community out. You never know when you put in somebody on game. Other than that, if you feel like you learned anything today, please like and share this video. Hit those post notifications as well as I wouldn't want you guys to miss anything. Once again, my name is Kory and I'll see y'all next time.


Welcome to our last unit in this chapter. So what are the biggest challenges when creating a series? You have to have a story that an audience, a story and characters that an audience will emotionally connect with. I think that's the number one thing that you need to do. If you can make an audience care about what's actually going on on screen and what's happening to the people that are watching on screen, then you've succeeded basically in the storytelling. The other big thing that you need to do, and JJ Abrams uses this expression of it's very important for him to get an audience to want to lean in to the screen. That's something that goes all the way back to storytelling around a campfire for centuries. That thing that is now becoming so interesting to me that actually everything else around me kind of falls away and I actually want to lean in and find out a little bit more about what's going on. I think those are the two most important things that you need to achieve. And it's a very difficult thing to do in ongoing serial television because you can succeed from the get-go very quickly and you can have people devoted to you for a season or maybe even two seasons. But to be able to keep that going for three, four, five, six, seven, eight years onwards is a huge challenge. And it is why generally speaking, most shows the longer they go on, audiences do start to fall away. Because they're not getting from the story what they wear at one point in time. There's an inevitable tiredness that comes if you're producing 22 episodes a year. But I think those are the fundamentals of good storytelling. Getting people hooked is all about getting their attention. Of course you can have like several aspects of a hook. One part would be getting people's attention. You think like, oh my god, what's that? And then there would be sort of an emotional component.  I want to see what happens. So just putting in a shock. I don't know if someone is getting killed which is not a shock anymore but anyway something like that. It's not going to move people and it's not going to make them stay because you can watch people get killed or have sex anywhere. So you have to have something else, something that tricks them into carrying. And I think that's what's so difficult about a good hook. Where you can see, I want to see how this character deals with this. One of the major points both our experts mention more than once is the importance of the characters and the audiences interest in and care for them. We approach the means to create that interest in a character in chapter one already. Characters with clear goals, desires and the will to fight for them against all odds are most notably found in serial dramas like Game of Thrones or Lost where actual fighting against enemies and for survival is present in every episode. Yet also daily struggle serials like Gilmour Girls or The OC center around a group of people opposed to others, mostly relatives and neighbors that constantly keep the protagonists from reaching eternal happiness. In a procedural the desire of an investigator lies in solving his or her case first whereas inner demons, mean spirited colleagues or for example a murderer can be direct inner or outer antagonistic forces. Your creative and also analytic task for this week is therefore please pick any existing serial protagonist that you know very well and use the attached PDF to create a character profile so to say a portfolio of this character. This profile should include his or her most important traits that keep this character interesting to you while watching the Who series. Whether it's desires, enemies, professions, hobbies, religions, behaviorisms or else please fill out the form with all the info you yourself and please not Wikipedia because in that sense it's not worth anything for you. God from watching this show, you might want to rewatch one episode or two to jog your memory. Why is this helpful? This is a good question. To A. Compare those traits to the profiles of other protagonists and see the differences. B. Ideally learn a lot about how these characters are built, how they are designed and why some of them work better than others. Have fun!


High gas prices seem to be the norm now on Ethereum. Does this kill innovation for non-defi projects, and how can this be fixed? Yes, it's a problem, but it's not an unsolvable problem, and it can be fixed probably in exactly the same two ways, maybe three ways that it could be fixed in Bitcoin. So, how do we fix high fees in Bitcoin? Three ways, increase the underlying block size, which creates problems with decentralization elsewhere, implement various forms of side chains, or implement a layer two technology, which is effectively a side chain per payment channel kind of idea where you have a framework for creating lots of side chains, which are payment channels. And Ethereum can do all three of these, but again, Ethereum already has a much, much bigger blockchain because it's recording a lot more information in order to keep state of smart contracts and record the data that these smart contracts rely on. So it already has a bigger problem than Bitcoin in terms of the growth, the accelerated growth of the underlying blockchain. So how is this fixed? Well, the first fix is with the introduction of Ethereum 2.0, we have a concept called sharding, and what sharding does is essentially, it partitions the blockchain into a number of, let's call them side chains or shards that contain a subset of the data and then synchronize with each other. Then another way is to use layer two technologies and layer two technologies such as Raiden and Opportunistic Rollup and ZK Rollup are already deployed on Ethereum and will continue to grow to address this underlying problem. Now let's take a step back and look at this from a philosophical and strategic perspective.  We've been having this conversation for a long time in Bitcoin. Back in 2014, 2015 already, this conversation about scaling and low fees had already started. And at that time, many people in the Ethereum space made two claims that proved to not age well. One of them was that this entire debate caused a lot of drama in Bitcoin and demonstrated how toxic the Bitcoin culture was. And the other claim was that Ethereum could do it better, cheaper, faster, and fees and block size was not gonna be a problem for Ethereum. Both of those claims ended up being untrue. First of all, as soon as we had very serious issues to debate in the Ethereum space, some toxic attitude came out there too. And a lot of the early Kumbaya feeling that existed in Bitcoin too or also in 2012, 2013, everybody was Kumbaya in Bitcoin, quickly disappeared in Ethereum also once you had significant controversy to debate. So now that we see that Ethereum also has to deal with these fundamental design decisions, these trilemma issues, security decentralization or cost and balancing these three is difficult. So Ethereum is trying some different approaches to solve these problems, but the problems still exist. And here's the underlying lesson for all of the other chains that say, we can be cheap, we can be secure, and we can be decentralized all at once because of our latest widgetorama 3000, which solves all of these problems through the application of magic, quantum, tangle chains, whatever. The bottom line is that these are not easy problems to solve. And when you solve them, but you don't solve them at significant scale, well, you didn't solve them. Never confuse calm seas for good sailors.  You're not a good sailor when you're sitting in the port laughing at the people in the storm and going, look at you people, you're all very wet. The bottom line is that both the difficult choices and the drama that happens as a result of tackling difficult choices are going to come to any chain that is lucky enough to become successful enough to matter. And all of those scaling issues will arrive. So the lesson from Ethereum is not really about Ethereum because we'd already learned that with Bitcoin and Ethereum, many people in Ethereum understood that this problem was coming. The lesson here is for many of the other systems that pretend that these problems are not there or won't happen to them and they will. If you enjoyed this video, please subscribe, like and share. All my work is shared for free. So if you wanna support it, join me on Patreon.