Good morning. I should mention, I think it's all commendable that you made it here at 9AM on the Saturday morning of DEF CON. So I think you're enthusiastic enough right now. Archie is the head of the White House Office of Science and Tech Policy. And she is also the president's chief science and tech advisor, which is a far more impressive title than me. Archie, welcome to DEF CON. This is not your first DEF CON. This is not my first DEF CON. I got to come in 2016 when I was running DARPA and we did the DARPA Cyber Grand Challenge. And how was that experience? That was an amazing experience. I don't think I was hacked, but how would I know? Okay, can you hear me now? Okay, I got it. I was here in 2016 for the DARPA Cyber Grand Challenge. So why is somebody from the White House here this weekend? We're here because I don't know if anyone's noticed, but AI is happening. It's been happening for a long time, but we're having a moment where it's burst onto the scene and it's come into people's lives in more ways and more visible ways. And President Biden's been really clear that it's part of this inflection point that we're at in history. He's very clear that we're in a moment where the choices that we make are going to shape the decades that are ahead in very powerful ways. And we all know that information technology has created this moment. It has been one of the big factors that's created this moment. And now comes this huge accelerator with this next generation of AI. So AI is an urgent and a critical focus for everything that we're doing at the White House and across the administration. And part of that means getting the talents of a group like this, putting this hacker culture to work to help us get to a future of safe and effective AI. And that's why I'm here. And speaking of which, next door, there are thousands over the course of today and yesterday and tomorrow, people getting to work on that GBT and the other AI chatbots. Tell us a bit about that challenge and why is the White House back in something like this? Yeah, we found out that the organizers were putting together a generative red teaming talent at the AI village. This was AI village coming together with seed AI and main intelligence. And we learned about this a few months ago and we said that is exactly what we need at this moment in time. If you think about it, think about how helpful red teaming has been in getting cybersecurity dramatically advanced from where we were. Now we've got AI technology, which is, you know, in many ways, the technology itself is much more complex. And then, of course, how it comes out into the world is the way humans interact with it. So you have complex, opaque, difficult to understand technology. And then you have human beings talk about complex, opaque and hard to understand. And it's where they meet. That's where things are happening. And we know how powerful this technology is. President Biden keeps coming back to the fact that it's so powerful and we absolutely have to harness its power. But to do that, we have to manage and mitigate its risks. And red teaming is going to be a core part of how that happens. So when we found out about that effort, we said we're all in. We worked with those organizers to bring the major AI companies to the table and to get them to agree to participate and have worked with them along the way, including with a pilot that they did at Howard University to bring up the challenge. And I cannot wait to go see how it's going down. I hear their line. So I think it's probably doing really great. Yes. We've spent a lot of time there the past few days. And just, I'm sure, pretty much everybody here is familiar with what's happening. But essentially, they're trying to get the chat apps to say things and do things they shouldn't.  How do you get them off the rails, which no can happen. Exactly.  Oh, thank you very much. What is the dream scenario, the dream outcome of this event here this week? Yeah. Short term, what we want to see come out of this is really practical. I mean, this is being done responsibly when these systems get derailed. That information is going to go to the creators of those AI bots so that they can fix them and get better, keep getting better. So that's the immediate goal. But this is the first time we've had an independent evaluation of this sort. Of course, companies have worked on improving their systems. And of course, they've been out in the world and people have been using them and occasionally breaking them. But this is the first independent organized way of looking in a more systematic way at where these systems come off the rails and trying to both, number one, help the companies improve. But number two, really get an assessment of where we are and how good our guardrails and how easy are they to break. So that's today. And then the longer term ambition here is what we need to build as quickly as we can to a future where we have rigorous, robust red teaming across all the different kinds of AI systems that we have. And this, I think, is going to light a spark. That's part of how we get to this vision that we have here at the White House. And I think across this whole community of safe and effective AI. Have these AI apps, you know, there's been a rush of them, I guess, since last winter, you know, in terms of when it really came into the spotlight with GBT, the release last November or so. Has things been moving too fast? Have the American companies been pushing this out into the world without enough testing? Well, look, this community knows how fast technology can move. And that's been the whole history of the information technology revolution. In a really deep sense, that is a revolution that is about acceleration. And that's what this new generation of AI is doing is it's further accelerating the way we go into the future. And the way I think about it is we have this amazing accelerator. But it doesn't do you much good unless you have a steering wheel and brakes. And putting all of that together is how we're going to get to the place that we really need to get to. So, yeah, I think things are moving fast. And that's why we are moving fast at the White House. If you followed in October, just before the tsunami of chatbots came out into the world, in October, the White House released an AI Bill of Rights, a blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights. So this is a statement of values about how important it is to have safety and security, how important it is not to have discrimination built in, how important it is to protect privacy. Because when you, when the technology is moving this fast, there's no better time that it's so important to be completely clear about what our values are. So that's what that, that is the bedrock. And then as these new generative AI systems started bursting on the scene, we've moved very quickly. And again, the president is directly driving this because he knows what's going on. He sees the need to move very rapidly. Early in May, the president called CEOs of four leading AI companies to the White House. That was Open AI, Anthropic, Google, and Microsoft. The vice president spoke for an extended period with them very directly, called on them and said, told them that they had not just a legal but a moral obligation to make sure that their systems were safe before they went out into the world. And that meeting, we had a wonderfully open good discussion. That meeting kicked off a process that just a few weeks after that in July, the president announced the voluntary commitments by seven leading AI companies, those four plus Amazon inflection and meta. And those seven companies now have signed up to a first set of voluntary commitments. And I think that's a benchmark, a landmark commitment to get those seven companies to commit to something the president announced that from the Roosevelt Room. That's an important moment. And that's about the industry taking steps to do its part of the job, but we all have roles and responsibilities. And so the next thing that we're working on very actively right now is an executive order that the president will put out very quickly. This has been a very urgent effort. And that is about using all the laws that are already in place, but boosting the executive branch's ability to manage and to use and to harness AI. That's the next thing. While all that's going on, we're continuing to work on a bipartisan basis with Congress, which has also been on a steep learning curve and has been working quite hard on AI issues. And of course, this is a global issue, not just a domestic one. And so we'll continue to work with our international allies and partners. So those are all the things that we are doing. But again, I think it's going to take all communities. And that's why it's so exciting to see the kinds of things that DEF CON and the hacker community are doing as well. And so you mentioned the AI pledge commitment from the seven tech companies. And a few bullet points really. What is it that you've gotten these companies to commit to doing? Yeah, they have committed to do several things that I think are really going to be important for the future of how AI rolls out. One is a commitment to internal and external red teaming. So very much to the point of understanding how these systems break so that we can keep getting better at them. There are several commitments. The other one I'll highlight is a focus on an agreement to work towards watermarking, which can be one part of having, you know, just getting to a future where people understand whether the content that they're looking at is authentic or machine generated or manipulated or not. So those are a couple of the pieces, but it's a couple of pages. And I think it does lay out some important first steps for the companies. You know, obviously these are corporations and they're protecting their reputation and want to make money. And look, you know, the president himself has had particularly harsh words for a lot of the big tech companies.  Why should the White House trust these companies with a voluntary pledge like this? Well, a voluntary pledge is a great place to start. It's not far from the only thing that needs to happen. And that's why we're following with an executive order and working on legislative strategies. And I think we are in a moment where people understand that technology has already raced ahead very rapidly. And a lot of the dreams that we all had about information technology and social media, a lot of those have come true, but some nightmares have come with it. And we are in a time when that is visible and clear. And that I think is exactly why you'll see the White House continue to push the companies, hold them accountable, and take action as an executive branch and with Congress on legislation as well. All of those are going to be needed. So what is it? Can you tell us a bit about the executive order you mentioned that's coming from the president? When should we expect that? And what is it that's going to be in it that really could, you know, bring accountability here? Well, I don't want to get ahead of that process. I'll just say... Go on. We won't tell anyone. You know, I can't do that. Come on. But I'll tell you, you know, I joined the White House in October and everyone kept saying this is going to go on a rapid, you know, this is on a rapid accelerated path. It's actually not a normal process. It's just faster. It's just a radically different process because of the urgency that we're moving with. Let me just tell you the broad questions that underpin the EO. Look, I mean, we've got this phenomenally powerful technology. How do we get to a future where we're getting its benefits and managing and containing its risks? Lots of work to do. Number one, a lot of the issues that we are all very concerned about with the powerful new AI technologies, things like cyber crime, fraud, discrimination. A lot of these things happen to already be illegal. And so how do we do all the things that we need to do to regulate and enforce as AI becomes an accelerator of malfeasance? So that there's a whole class of things that needs to be done there. Why are we doing all of this work? We are doing all of this work to get AI right because it's going to bring us one of the most powerful sets of tools we've ever had to wrestle with the hardest problems that humanity faces.  We have health outcomes in America that are unacceptable for a country of our wealth. We are still working to fulfill the American dream of making sure there's opportunity for every single person in our country. We have geopolitical and national security challenges that are very different than in the past. And we know that we have to continue to boost and build our economy so that it creates jobs that support families. Those are things that are not going to get done unless we harness the power of AI. And AI is going to open so many possibilities, but doing the work of the country and really tapping this power in a responsible way, that's another broad theme that we're exploring. And everything I just told you needs the tools and the methods to make sure we have safe AI and everything I just told you needs people. And so I would, by the way, I would just say to the amazing people who are here, if you want to think about places where you can really create a better future with technology and AI, think about public service because that's an opportunity. If you get to the right place at the right time with the talents and skills that you bring, you'll have a place where you can stand to move the world. And I would really urge you to think about that. Speaking of that skill set, some of it is lacking in Congress. In terms of, you know, there has been a obvious lack of tech literacy among many members of Congress. I think we have heard for years and years and years talking about bringing in some sort of regulations for social media, for safety, that sort of thing. It's clear that, you know, Congress has barely wrapped its head around social media. It's barely wrapped its head around the Internet, frankly. There's only so much a White House and all your good intentions can do through executive orders and whatnot. Do you, is there a realistic expectation here that Congress is going to actually do anything about AI and what could that look like? Yeah, I completely agree that we need legislation. The President has already been very clear that there are things we should be acting on already. Congress has made progress but not gotten across the finish line with legislation on privacy, with legislation about protecting our kids. And those are things that Congress needs to be acting on now. And so that's a very clear call from the White House. As we look ahead to this next generation of AI, I think that same urgency that we feel in the White House is very much something I see on Capitol Hill. And I see members and senators working aggressively and really actively to come up the learning curve to understand not only what's going on but what does it mean and how do they need to respond with policy. Majority Leader Schumer has been holding a series of briefings to bring a broad set of senators up to speed on AI matters broadly. And I had the opportunity to participate a few weeks ago in the briefing that he put together for senators on AI and national security. We ended up covering everything, not just national security. That was an amazing meeting. Over half the senators were in the room and we were in an environment where they were learning and they weren't legislating yet. They're in learning mode. And the quality of the questions, I think, I left very encouraged. I think if you'd heard the questions, you would have left encouraged as well. Because they were really parsing what the technology can and can't do and what its implications are from a competitiveness point of view, from the point of view of problems with bias in housing or other areas, from the point of view of privacy issues, from concerns about misinformation, from all the issues about safety and security. So I think I found that very heartening and I think there's a lot more work to do but that's we're going to be very committed to working on a bipartisan basis to make progress there. And on that issue of militarily and national security and also competition from China and elsewhere, of course, there was that infamous letter of calling for a pause. Fairly did the pause button on AI development as such in the public realm. What were your thoughts on that and how does that stack up against trying to protect the public from the potential harms of AI but also trying to remain competitive against different countries? Absolutely. The thing that everyone agrees on is we have to build a future with safe and effective AI. That is the point of all of these different perspectives that we're hearing. And again, if you step back and you think about this as the most powerful technological force of our times. And we're all living in a time where technology has already accelerated and changed the human experience in so many ways and now we can see this great accelerator on top of all of that. So the choices we're going to make now are going to determine what the future looks like. And every country around the world knows that. And every country around the world is working to develop and use AI in ways that reflect their own values. And there are so many arguments in the world of AI and in the world of AI policy, but I will tell you the one thing we are all completely clear on is none of us wants to live in a future in which AI has shaped a world that's driven by authoritarian values. That's not the future any of us wants. And that is I think why it's so important not just for our country, but for the progress of the world that we and our like-minded allies move very fast to use AI responsibly, but to use it in powerful ways that really solve some of our hardest problems and open up new opportunities. So that's I just want to never lose sight of that target. And every single time President Biden talks about AI, this is exactly what he talks about. And I've just really enjoyed every exchange I've had with him. He's completely clear. He is lit up about the possibilities here and he knows that's why we have to do the hard work to get it right. You mentioned the racial bias component of this and I think you'll see what's heartening when you go next door to the AI village right after this is a very diverse set of hackers working on the systems there. Look, obviously there's always a conversation about diversity across industries, etc. But it does seem particularly important here when you see, for instance, just take what we hear about facial recognition technology in states like Michigan and elsewhere when it comes to prosecutions. Why is this so important and how can having a diverse group of people working on this technology and red teaming is, how can that actually have positive impacts? Yeah. This is about values and the one of the most fundamental ideas of America is that every person gets a fair shot. And as our information technologies have gotten more and more intimate with us and with our lives. I mean, when I was a kid, you know, it was punch cards, right? The machine sat in a refrigerated room far away and it was locked away. Now we wear it on us. We are interacting with it all the time. It mediates our interactions with each other and with the world. Now, I think we really are at a point where we have got to stop thinking about it just as a technology and see it as something that is intimately connected with people and it is about people. So when I go to the AI village, one of the things I'm really excited about is that organizations like Black Tech Street have brought people to the table to be part of red teaming these systems. Houston Community College has shown up with students. And I think that is a perfect example of the different, you know, these are tools meant for everyone, but that means if we are going to figure out how they work as people try them and use them to try different things, we are going to have to have everyone at the table to red team them and that also means that the people who are building these systems, we need to embrace the entire universe of talent because that is how we are going to build things that really serve all of us. So when it comes to the pledge you got the companies to sign, and I'm not sure by a show of hands how many folks are kind of familiar with what the White House got to sign up to, but it is, you know, as you said and it is your job to say, you guys are on a journey to try and bring everybody along. It is my job and it is true too. But also, you know, the pledge I think any self-respecting cyber person in this room would say it is a bit wishy-washy. The companies could certainly wiggle their way out of a lot of things here. They are grading their own homework. But one thing in that that struck me as interesting and I think, you mentioned there is a thing in there about watermarking and watermarking, imagery that is essentially created using AI, which is great. It sounds like a great idea. But I am interested in the specifics to say, sure, you can stick a watermark on something that Dali spits out or you can even put something in the metadata but the second you screenshot it or something else or crop it there, it is gone. So when it comes to these actual commitments from the companies to be like, yeah, watermarking, cool. How in practice is this actually going to happen and how soon is it going to happen? That is all the work that is still ahead. I just want to say that the whole point of external red teaming is that companies don't get to grade their own homework. So that is actually why that particular commitment and the work that we are doing here is such an important step. Watermarking is a technical solution that aids in this problem that we increasingly, we already have and AI is going to accelerate of not knowing the authenticity or the origin of information. This crowd knows better than anyone how much technology can help and how inadequate it is as a complete solution because there is this other part, the human beings and that is always the hardest part. But I do think that watermarking is done right and it is not easy technically. It is not going to be easy as a practical matter to implement it. But I think we have done complex technical things through standardization and agreements among companies about how they will behave and how they will use information. So I think we have reasons to believe that we can bring that technology forward and that is what these companies and many others are working towards. So again, I think we all have to be really clear that we are not going to get to a future where everything is completely perfect. But I am really confident we can get to a future where the technology, the AI technologies we are talking about are safe and effective enough that we can use them and move forward. It is a terrible way to go through life. So we are going in and I am very conscious that you are not a political person as such on the campaigns, anything like that. But from a general perspective when we talk about misinformation and general AI and everything else, we are going into an election year next year here in the U.S. and of course many other big elections around the world next year. Specifically when it comes to how AI could be a threat to information and how we vote and understand about candidates and campaigns and a threat to democracy, what are your big concerns there? Yeah, let me I want to be very clear that I work for the president, I work at the White House and in that role I work for the country. I am not I do not work for one party or the other and so I won't say anything about this election. I think it's very clear though if anyone who's paying attention understands that we've had an erosion of truth and trust in information and I think we freak and now it's accelerating or the potential for great acceleration is here with generative AI and I think we've often tended to have conversations about will people believe things that are wrong and that is a huge concern perhaps even deeper and more subtle is when people don't believe anything because how does a democracy function when we don't have a common basis for truth and understanding and trust among parties. So I think this is a huge issue and again it's there are technical components and we talked about watermarking but the the challenge I think is much greater than just the technology and there's a lot of work to be done there. And on that you know you you are formally from DARPA, Department of Defense's I guess research is the best way to absolutely the place that does breakthrough technology and security and you know we've spoken to them quite recently about the people who are doing work there on deep fake detection of course that plays into a lot of the political environment but tell us a little bit about the challenge you launched with DARPA this week here in Vegas. Yeah that was a terrific announcement that we made from the White House. DARPA is launching a new challenge it's the AI cyber challenge and so we talked about the red teaming competition that's happening over two days here. The DARPA challenge that just got announced is in a sense it's the complete flip side it's about using the power of new AI technologies to go after really hard problems in cybersecurity and try to accelerate our ability to knit up software systems that are critical for everything that we do that you guys know better about than anyone on the planet that was announced a couple of days ago and it will roll out over a couple of years the White House again in that case helped bring the leading AI companies to the table to be participants and partners with DARPA in that enterprise and I just want to say from having led DARPA for a few years I know how powerful these challenges can be this this is an idea that is actually very deep in the DEF CON ethos is the way you solve really hard problems is you just let everyone go run at them in the most creative way possible but mobilizing that across broad communities when DARPA puts out one of these challenges the people who are always paying attention to DARPA and the federal government show up but a lot of people who are not paying attention normally also show up and I think that creativity that we tap is going to be very very effective on the cyber security issue so this is how we're going to do big things and I think people in this room can take part yeah please counting on it we're going to open up to some audience questions in it for the last 10 minutes or so but you know it's almost 9 30 a.m. so I can ask the the nuclear question what is your what is that what's what is the worst case scenario I mean what is the cliche what is it about AI that keeps the chief science advisor the president of the United States up at night I what I'll tell you I I do sometimes lose sleep and it's because AI's breadth it has so many applications that's what's exciting about it and that's the bright side and the dark side is that that means that its risks are so varied and yes there are risks of catastrophic harm national security scale harm if you think about cyber security vulnerabilities and critical infrastructure or biosecurity that's like decapitation but equally damaging is the slow cancer of embedded discrimination or privacy erosion or growing distrust in our society that erodes democracy so this is not a one and done and our view from the White House and very clearly from the president we are the United States of America we are not picking and choosing we are going to tackle all of these issues and get the whole the whole business of AI on a track that's safe and effective so I I do lose sleep at night but I wake up in the morning with hope okay very good I see but does anybody have a question you're gonna have to shout go ahead oh you got a microphone now oh we don't oh there is a microphone there we go um I'm in the healthcare space and one of the things we're dealing with is how do you prevent the personal details needed to say do diagnostic from not being absorbed into the model is now public information that's one of the things we're looking at because some of the early early examples were we ask this specific question and now that data that so-and-so lives here is now in the model how's that progress going or what are the thoughts on that yeah I think you put your finger on one of the really important issues we healthcare is an area where we have talked for years already about the power of health data to cure diseases and even understand the factors behind disease so that we can get ahead of them with prevention I would say the progress we've made is very modest compared to the size of the opportunity and these kinds of privacy issues are one of the reasons one of the barriers to getting there because of course we have to take that seriously so I think there are again this is an area where there are technical approaches and a huge number of privacy enhancing technologies that have made progress in research but again are still sparsely applied and that's this is one of the areas that you'll see the administration continue to focus on and to do the work that does the experimentation and ringing out of privacy technology so that we can get the value of healthcare data yep go ahead I'm Naushat Situ and co-founder of Blackbird AI we work on narrative and risk intelligence so really appreciate all this initiative from the president and the community has are doing like for the red teaming on the genitive AI and uh so let's assume in the best case the US companies where the government has control on or can make recommendation they comply and we built a good LLM Genitive AI with all the guardrails but this is something now accessible for everyone like anyone who has resources can build the same thing and it's easier to build it without the guardrails because we already built it right so the foreign adversaries they are going to build that and make it accessible open source it so access to those information like for you have the scale uh and accessibility of disinformation tool that you want to attack the government or anything anyone have access to that even like let's say these tools are have guardrails but they will have access to the other tools so the question I have is how can we stop that or what are the what are your thoughts like I understand like you're representing the president only but I want to understand as a country because it's not just president like we need legislation Don Sullivan already mentioned that so I would like to understand like what are your thoughts how can we actually stop it or what are our thoughts we might not have the solution today but want to hear your thoughts and understand yep thank you for a great question because this is the power of the technology and and whether it happens inside our borders or from outside these are the harms that that we are very very focused on so let's let's break it down uh number one we on the technology side uh the actions that we are taking working with companies but also with work that's happening inside of government uh how how can we make the technology as robust and as safe and effective as possible knowing that that's unlikely to be perfect and knowing I mean the the whole thing with there's a whole guardrail counter guardrail thing happening already right there was this wonderful universal jailbreak that Carnegie Mellon just published as an example and now of course everyone's gonna get better at that but I think it really just tells you that we're very early in in getting you know my hope is we get to where guardrails are so robust that it's so hard to break them that most people don't bother only DEF CON people will bother everyone else so just leave them alone it'll be fine it'll be pretty safe but I don't know yet if we're gonna get there so so there's more work to be done on the technology side and there's more work to be done on regulation enforcement and I think legislation as well because when bad actors or even by accident if people use these technologies to create harms of misinformation that is just that is dangerous or to discriminate in housing decisions or hiring decisions or in law enforcement in inappropriate ways or creating creating security threats of various sorts when any of those things happen those are things we have laws against and we have to be able to know when that happens to to stop those harms to hold people accountable and create an environment in which there are so many penalties for doing the wrong thing with the technology that people would rather not and they go on and actually use it for all the good things that are the reasons we're developing it thank you so much thank you you mentioned the Carnegie Mellon uh research paper there which were you know they by prompting stuffing they were able to get gbt and Lehman others to say things they shouldn't um I was playing around with that with the professors uh last week at Carnegie and we got of course it has some of gbt's trained on some of my information from the cnn website and things so it knows a little bit about me so we asked it to insult me uh and it was a very specific and impressive insult and I as it was you insulted that's my question um well I what I did say was I was like this sounds exactly like what people say to me on twitter and then I thought oh wait it has probably trained on twitter data so this all makes sense but anyway um oh oh we have two mics okay yeah I have a quick question well really not a quick question so please make it quick today you've touched on a couple things one is the current administration has brought leaders of ai to the table to uh voluntarily pledge to do the right things which is great that's a really great start and you've touched on uh in recent years there's been an erosion of trust in the government and some information which I think is saying it lightly but here's my question to the current administration and the u.s government as a whole what is the u.s government going to do to voluntarily pledge and assure they won't use machine learning and ai as a disinformation engine tactic model going forward not only internally but externally thank you thank you for asking that question the specific answer to your question is work that's happening right now the office of management budget is working through guidance for federal agencies that is very uh explicit about how to use this powerful technology in responsible ways the ways that advance our values rather than eroding them and that is the incredibly specific bureaucratic memorandum driven way that something as uh values driven as your question turns into the actions across government and that's something we take very seriously thank you for that yeah um the french government recently came out in favor of open source ai uh I wanted to know does the administration have a position on open source both as a way of uh mitigating risk and also spurring competition does it have an official position thanks uh you know uh what I I see what's happening with open source and ai today and if I were still uh in silicon valley being a venture capitalist I would say it is democratizing and if I were still in the defense department I would say it is proliferating both of those things are are true and uh very much to your point we know the power of open source uh for improving a core technology and I think we also understand the power of open source for creating incredibly powerful capabilities and putting them in the hands of of many many many people I want to step back from that and say the the what every one of these discussions is about is getting to a future where ai is safe and effective and um there are going to be lots of pathways to getting their measures on the technology side measure measures about how how the technology is used but that's the north star is how do we get to safe and effective ai and that's what we'll stay anchored on and is a terrible na ai or or nare can you tell us a little yeah absolutely um this is the national ai research resource uh it's there was a task force that was put together at congress's behest to uh advise the government about the resources and the capabilities that needed to be put together for publicly funded ai r and d and its recommendations uh from the task force the task force recommended a multibillion dollar undertaking by the national science foundation participation from many actors across government but the purpose of that is to build the data and the compute capabilities and to do the funding of many different uh university researchers of all different stripes uh in order to be building and um and improving ai technologies again this is part of how we get to safe and effective ai but it's also the market is going to take this powerful technology and go do everything for which there are market drivers but we have other things that this country has got to get after and using ai in powerful ways for our greatest national challenges and our greatest global challenges that's the work of public r and d and that's what nare is all about we were really pleased to see congress taking it up and there's legislation advancing that's something i'm very hopeful about yep hi i'm uh gregory o'connor and i had a question about if there is any kind of a tradeoff between accuracy and factualness and values so for example yesterday the ai red team spoke about a system that was putting out names of nurses have you asked to give me a typical nurses name and it would give a name identified as a female name most typically as somebody who's a technologist if i was making a system and i knew as a fact that 86.2 percent of nurses were females and then my system had an output that generated 86.2 percent of the names which were identified as females i'd feel success accuracy but if this uh you know the groups that are red teaming and so forth if they were looking for 50 50 then i have to code my system or build my system to meet an aspiration as opposed to the current statistical reality so how is that being handled or are you looking for other sorts of input in addition to this red teaming approach right now that would try to bring in some elements of factualness i think you put your finger on the choices that ai developers make and the red teaming is about shining a light on on where things are but i think that's a great example of choices in the design of these systems that we're all going to use thank you you had the systems be accurate rather than aspirational i i mean we're going to use these systems for so many things when i uh ask a chatbot to write uh you know a bruce springsteen song about something like it's not that's not about accuracy it's about creativity and that's a very different thing so i think it's really i think we have to stay anchored in what is the purpose and uh and often and people are using these things for medical information boy that had better be as accurate and clear as it can possibly be and i don't know if it is yet right so those are the things that we do worry about i know we're almost out of time so we'll try to get through these last three questions very quickly hi my name is mary key and i'm an information security manager for a bank and we've been dipping our toe into ai and a little bit of r&d and the more that we do it the more the business wants to use it and we're at a point that i mean information security knows what questions to ask but i can't trust the business to ask those same questions so how do you recommend implementing ai for commercial use in a highly regulated industry like banking oh an age old question yes and i mean you you all are in the trenches you're going to figure that out but i think it's a great example of you are in a high trust business i mean i'm not going to tell you the answer you know better than i do but someone was talking about health uh if it's healthcare if it's finance i mean these are these these and many other areas are places where trust is that is what your business is all about and i think it really points to the need to ring out these systems thank you it's on you you got it very quickly because i know that goons will start beating me up shortly yes um ashley and i lead a uh security testing team um so you know we've been talking a lot about uh doing red team against generative ai and i think the question that some people have since it is such a new technology is where do your teams start with that so do you start at looking at the content that you can get it to spit back out or are there other components and how do you approach that as an org yeah i think that's a very broad question and different companies or users are going to have different answers as they think about what they want to use ai for well at at the white house um the president has just been completely clear that a the power of ai is its breadth and what we as a country need to achieve is confidence and trust that ai can be safe and effective for whatever application that's going after and that that will continue to be our frame all right this question better lower socks off last question no pressure no pressure so good morning i work as part of a soccer blue team um the thing that keeps me up at night is a lack of guidance for my customers as to what they should and shouldn't do so is there initiative coming from the white house for that general education for you know best practices while this technology is still being developed you know it's so hard to get people to do what what you want them to do is technology is easy people are hard and again i think this is every company is going to have to figure this out for the particular purposes that they are using ai and i think your question really gets at the deeper point that these systems are not they are not just they're not just ones and zeros they're not just bits and bytes they are about technology and humans working together and uh that's that is the heart of the complexity that we're dealing with here it's the humans that are still going to screw us all right and also do the greatest things ever that's what it's all about um thank you so much for your time uh thanks all


Going on everyone Sam here with late sports cards ripping 23 Bowman draft baseball jumbo eight box case number 50 picker team style names and teams You got aft shot s with the Marlins Brandon S. Padres, Brian L. Red Sox Dane W Orioles pirates David W with the White Sox Derek J. Ray Suki M. Phillies Eric M. Yanks Frank P. Blue J's Jared S. Rockies Jeffrey H with the Tigers Brewers Twins Braves and Reds Jeremy S. Angels Jordan C. Royals Josh M. Giants Justin K. Dodgers Kendall F. Athletics Kevin S. Paper Base Matthew B. Nationals Matthew S. Mariners Mike S. with the Cubs Nixie Mets Oran W. Ranger Scott F. Cardinals Sean R. Guardians Skyler T with the Astros and Victor F with the D-backs. So good luck here everybody Let's do it. Thank you Nick picking up the Cubs and definitive down to two to go on definitive now everybody two to go Yeah, and tomorrow will be very prism football heavy I'm assuming as you would all I assume all of you would also assume that because of course it is released day So last day for a little bit to get in on some non football breaks. No football tonight at all This is a PYT. So yeah Jeremy bought the angels angels for Jeremy S Someone beat you to see how you got to snag the Cubs fair fair fair Yeah, you Nick Luke B with a spot in that three box mixer. Thank you Luke. That's down to 13 I want to say now That's the last baseball break last like Bowman break basically with spots tonight Max Anderson to 499 sky blue paper Colt Emerson glass chase to warsky Nathan Detmer Nice Tom Brady on the refractor. There we go Washington. Hell. Yeah, dude Take that all day Tommy Tommy When Washington in this one that's gonna be Are those sneaky nationals that Matthew B Congrats Matthew. There you go. Get that into a mag for you, brother Bomi's there in Carlos Jorge Tommy take those all day give us some good years. We're gonna go first hero Wyatt Lucchichel and Alfredo. I do know That goes to the nationals Jessica that goes to the nationals By way of relocation first base auto AJ Ewing Gonzalez may all go near Tray Morgan Michael Royall green first chrome to 99 is chase to warsky Raidenberg Gavin Cross McGraw and Philip Abner Purple auto Jovi Toronto for the Dodgers the 250 when they're Los Angeles hero Wyatt Chris Clark That is a sky blue chrome Adrian Santana CJ K-Fist Roger Arias Hell yeah, I love it a fissing auto. Let's do it. I like it. Well something nasty, man Andrew Pinkney first base auto for the nationals Nationals obviously very good box there Cam Fisher and Anthony Gutierrez Super smooth swing. I like a coca. I like it and Purple Xander Muth to 250 Cole Carrigan, Cam Collar. We were dying me and Shawn Last Wednesday that all of us were here when I would go over and then we Do what I see just doing what you guys are doing. Yeah, no, you're not wrong Honestly Logan with a three box mixer spot TJ with a three box mixer spot leave down to 11 to go on that lunar glow Chris Clark Colt Emerson and Kinder Delgado. I think they'll both be good It's still super early First base auto Jack Mahoney the rocks Hashtag Rocktober Mike Bovee and Jackson Holliday. I'm what's brown. Can the Menachi? 75 Cole Young Yellow Lunar Creator Tommy Troy Tanner Hall. Not a bad one. Yeah. No, I wouldn't be bad. It's probably a chase for everybody Johnny Farmello rock Rodin get brought up a Brock Vredenberg to 125 Yeah, Frank Lester coach Dylan Cruz Sorry Dylan. What is that? That's how we're doing There's Cole Carrick Homer Bush and Xavier Isaac just kidding Frank just kidding Frank I'd be more sorry. You had to coach Matt Lester Joe Redfield to 499. Oh, yeah, there's been a lot of Brady's that have been pulled Jake DeLeo to 499 refractor first auto for the Marlins Hackenberg and Grayson hit the inscribed ones to our knowledge. I've not been Posted yet Christopher K with a three box mixer spot as well as Talyn with three box mixer spot Radiant to 199 Grant Taylor white Langford first refractor Cole Schoenwetter Yeah, Super Fractor got pulled up on golden right now 95 K with 11 days still Rainer Arias 125 Mariahuna Jackson Merrill Hunter Holland first and Jaden Ham first Audio came on TV for no reason. We got a red here. Come on. We got a red True red Auto Max Anderson there we go Tigers To five that's actually kind of nasty Detroit four or five Max Anderson Red action good stuff on that You get some bombs right there. We'll get that into a man for you there targets When injured a more and boy Like a Jabari with a Star Wars black spot. Oh, there's Spencer We awoke the Tigers Okay, 10 bucks Tuesday baseball 15 to go everybody. Oh, there's Jase to good Lord You might have like a program or something whenever Whenever a thumbs up comes on the screen they get alerted or something.  Oh, Jase There's a Blake Mitchell first of Kate Coller and Andrew Lindsay and devil's in there Los Santos. I Would have lost my mind if that was Max Clark Tony Lost my freaking mind Christian offer to 499. That's Jason Shuri. Oh Kendall George young kill. It depends coca. He signed for a penny for a while now. He's a tops exclusive So, yeah, what was the last time we stopped radio? I was like 1920 around there 2019 2020 around there. Yeah To unpack an entire bedroom set and think you did a 2020 prism same with my homes. It goes both there last year Yeah, 2020 That's the car out of 125 Mewing and James Warner's too. So I think yeah Yeah Yeah, before that he was in like most of the high-end products. He'd always be in Jake D'Aliot a 50 on the true gold base Hi Floyd Tim of the style. There's base out of Cole Miller Never know tops got him coca. Oh, yeah apart They backed up the brink truck for that. Sure That's and stuff too. Honestly, why not this might as well, dude Jonah Cox and Trey Morgan and Ricky Bradfield brand old my air Bringle and Lazarus romances That is Wyatt Langford McLean Spencer Jones Well, I'll ask you. What are we doing? We do a lot of ski He's smelling you can't legend. This is odd First base out of Kepp Alderman. I am Alderman nice one there for the Marlins Rhett louder and I'd say a copa What's up, everybody? How we doing today? By the way, I hope everybody's doing well Jacob Wilson true green nice one there color match to 99 good stuff there Oakland Pinkney and a tomorrow Roman Anthony to 199 Dylan Campbell Brady house I have like three packages in gaming and one from the sports channel coming on top of the map virile Oh, you ended up winning the map viriling. Let's go. I know you got into a fierce bidding war Over the map viriling heritage high number card. Yeah. Oh, I know there was a Got dubs, Spencer There was the most action a map viriling card has seen in years probably that's what my golden cards today Pretty happy about that 15 to go on 10 box baseball everybody 15 to go 13 to go on one-on-one and 23 to go now on 10 box basketball My Donald My Donnie David It is awesome. Love seeing the ribbons at the onesie Fantastic, but you don't have to play anybody this week to 125 CJ K. Fuss rock regio vicarra. Okay. I would love nothing more The mistake mixer nothing more than to have our backups knock the Steelers out that is Max Clark Justin Reimer and Elijah Green Joseph Joe I was gonna say that could be some that could be a problem Man when I get get somebody on the phone and get some some oversight in here Joe We're gonna glow Michael Arroyo, I see six o'clock Let's go. I like it. No, no, that's that's that's that's FC 24. Yeah, 499 is Jackson holliday Re-event ourselves 50 hundred Vargas Hey, I'm a Toronto and Gary Bowman. I probably would Nick. Yeah part of the 12-leg par leg this guy go Spencer That is Justin Reimer how well in Francisco nice Dylan head on the glass auto to 99 there you go Padres 14 like one six thousand dollars to me here for a third like a hot dude send it Don't win 6k all alone. You know shoot us the bed slip Spencer Ryan Clifford Troser Cash the MC when I had a $4 profit there you go Nick First Jack Hurley and Jackson chariot And eight like I shall for six of these guys just the parlay God Spencer all right Landford Kyfer Lord and Kate at Denton I'll take the Like the friggin nights true Ralphie Velazquez to 499 congrats on that Guardians last team taken $9 total spent Wiggins and Wyatt Crowell Excuse me. Yes. Thank you. Sounds like you insane at the same strategies Kate Denton first base auto for the Rocks First of savings of BIOS and Justin Crawford Spencer's boy Kate didn't true bow P with a spot in Masterwork and Star Wars Chrome black. Thank you, buddy 15 and go on 10 bucks baseball everybody 15 to go halfway there. He really does fill that thing up Spencer He really does It's better than like Some of the bots you sign it in the bottom left order. I'm like Jonah dude Justice for Jonah J for J Jumbo that we scare him away colors No, no, you got a turd burger chase Davis Patrick Riley and Seth Keener Trying to get east stop parking Yeah, 499 Spencer Jones Yeah, and the Zones on a teller sky blue chrome Garrett Forrester Taylor I'm working Huskies. He had to break through the long horse Open passes Fixing allocations Jacob Wilson to 125 Thornton TJ Walton green is Matt Shaw transformative talent to 99 Cubs and Max Anderson First base auto Joe Redfield for the angels that's angels put a pole and Joe Whitman Some that a few times. Oh man You have to hit confirm. I know confirm it Like Romero, we're gonna glow first bowmeester and Matt Shaw first refracted Butcher bitch out Trump is rebounded to the line. It's 15. God. He had like 20 last game. It's crazy Yeah, 2020 against the Hawks crazy Devons all keep on I'm very very tired of the Atlanta Hawks nonsense this year. I got to be honest with you I'm not happy softies Magic aren't playing money butter though I just decided to stop Gold Jackson holiday Are they still where are they seated Better than being we're out of the play-in right now. We're out of the play-in You try to keep it up True blue Kate Denton first two 150 So let's then Jacob Wilson He might do who they playing They're playing somebody good because they're like a 10-point dog. I think the Lakers the clean Lakers Convance here Zonatella. Oh boy penguin line penguin puck line. Okay And rock a fort I'll take the penguins up offline for sure There's a penguins to win 60 minute line the penguins to win to 499 as you on your Vargas and Yellow Christian knapsick to at 75 And Jonah Cox All right, I got Janya with the Marlins in definitive Nick a with a couple of panther spots tomorrow and Aaron with a spot in that three-box mixer Play sixers tonight. Oh do they?   Those three boxes are fun, man. Make sure you get the Rangers Yeah, sixers without him beat are still pretty decent I mean, they're still favorites in a lot of games like they'd be favored against the Hawks without him beat I can tell you that it is fair Vaughan and led better They'd probably be favored against the Hawks without and beat in freaking maxi. That's bow me sir to 499 Tommy Troy Jason Woodward Jack Mahoney He's kind of a stud Jacob Gonzalez biggest disappointment of the NBA so far this year Hunter Owen and Marcus Brown Honestly, I would like I would say the Hawks.   He had what 40 and 10 the other game No, and it's gonna get to the point We're like we're just gonna keep losing and suck and then he's gonna want to get traded and that we're gonna be so They're gonna worse team in the NBA Yes, but for a point card green Brooks lead to 99 leave I wills Christian that sick Spencer. Yeah, I just send the parlay bro. We're getting all this warhead We're gonna start slowly figuring out what it is, but that's what you're excited about. Oh, yeah I always see the cows line. I'm always like, what is that about and then I look and I got like three different guys That makes sense, right make sense. I guess And jace Barofin the other night.  I'm gonna push that one First base auto max Anderson and max Clark first refractor. I have the nuts money line Just because they're sick talk is funny. It's pretty funny With Dean Wade starting again, you're not gonna have fun watching the caps First base auto CJ capis We go into the decent Dean Wade versus the world Here, but don't see I guess Well D-Wade man true Well D-Wade at home and Dean Wade at home And first base auto Malia Huna going to the Higates Gravy and Zander moves first box 7 Warriors have been kind of a disappointment. Yeah, Lakers haven't been great either. Yeah, Lakers should probably put a record for sure Play that guy for no reason 15 to go on 10 bucks everybody 10 bucks baseball D-Wade man That is a Braden Taylor first Connelly early and Brady Smith yellow Grayson hit first the 75 He J. Nichols Cole Foster, I've been riding Derek Lively and Grayson Allen recently and they've both been Oh, yeah, you're consistent I know you've been freaking Grayson 11 the other night and he's 11 and a half and he had 10 in the first half and one of all skeins and one free throw in the second Eyes Jones Derek Lively's been nice. They're glad we've been good for over rebounds Oh rebounds and points because he's usually like 17 and led better first base auto Can get like 11 rebounds. Oh easily Erica a mask. I've blown out last night That's right. Who'd they play? Who was it? I forget already Ventura said he took him plus two trocer to 250 got they got worked Like Richard he's carved out a pretty good role for himself in big work I got to be honest with you Grayson Allen that has no two 499 Juanita shoot that ball. Yeah But that defense too or bath. Yeah, it works me on the Sun's too because if one of them's heard they need a shooter Yeah, I know They need a sugar desperately. Nice refractor Wyatt Langford. Here we go to 499 Congrats on that one that Rangers that's awesome, dude Hell yeah 499 And first of Charlie Soto. Thank you Larry taking the Dodgers and definitive We might be sold out on definitive actually. I think we are We are sold out on definitive everybody. Wow. That's awesome. Thank you all hell. Yeah, man one our two baseball breaks with spots tonight 10 box and our Three box mixer still has a few spots to go. So let's get 10 box filled up among other ones as well Rainer Arias Hey, Stad Tommy Hawk That is a hard card to hit is right for sure Steve. Just like to hide from us Yeah, like Langford Langford color stuff same with Max Clark, dude. Max Clark's been Hiding on us recently. Nice black Grayson hit to 75 Congrats on that one. That's Dbex and Paul Wilson Let's go Vaughan Carlson Reed and Connor Burns Nice hit there. Where's it? Where's the ATL Michael one that is to 125 Zach Thornton I do love the black refractors in this Ethan O'Donnell. They need to be in all moments Dude, I don't know why they're not it's frustrating. I've heard I've heard a few. Oh, yeah Great He's not a ray. I don't give it. I don't care. Yeah, I say something a little more helpful there by accident, but cool young and hunter-hawse Yeah, I do not consider him a ray. I'm yeah. No undone. He's done To 499 Levi Wells. Do not care To 199 Justin Reimer And Quinn McDaniel We're a glow Phillip Abner Not really honestly Not really late till we get our $200 million back if he is first base auto is Enrique Bradfield Jr. for the Orioles Skeens and cool mill. It's actually been a pretty good case That's a very good case all the color been based of good autos. Yeah, it's not that many Glass of Enrique Bradfield Kevin Sim first refractor Possible murk green grass rock regeo to 99 Yanks and Luke Schlegger Cole Miller first of Lucas Gordon Alex Clemmie I definitely didn't just finish off that shot bit never never bad time that is a Christian Campbell Aqualaba to 199 nice one there Red Sox got it forgot to Completely forgot to bring your card in Pist J. Bashir's I was like oh perfect Tuesday easy Lou that one Take the Leo Lunar Gloger Jones Christian opera Andrew Walters nice white Langford gradient paper to 199 Jordan loves good man J. Hart and Bryce Eldridge Jordan loves very good. 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Reed at the right time and you're good how it works All right recap 99 under on the base color Rock Regia Wyatt who pull Brooks Lee Matt Shaw chase to Warski to 75 Cole young Grayson hits Christian naps it to 50 Yondri Vargas Jackson holiday Jake DeLeo Autos you had Colton Ledbetter and Rickie Bradfield Yeah, right I know Max Anderson Kendall George Malia Huna TJ Kafis Nizan Zonatello Joe Redfield Kate Denton Kemp Alderman Cole Miller Jack Mahoney Andrew Pinkney AJ Ewing to 499 Jake DeLeo Ralphie Velazquez to 250 Joe Vichrano 199 Christian Campbell to 150 Kate Denton to 99 Dylan head to 75 Grayson hit had a Wyatt Langford refractor first thought of 499 a green Jacob Wilson to 99 a Red max Anderson to five true red and a Tom Brady refractor Not bad pretty very good case overall. Thanks again for these fill there everybody up next is the first choice mixer


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Good morning, Cyber Traders. Happy Friday, everyone. Good to see everyone to Cyber Group Room. Grant, Lita, good to see you. Phil, you too. Welcome back, everybody. What a beautiful Thursday we had yesterday. So many runners. I can't wait to go over them. And there's still moving. We had a great, great rally yesterday in the market. I got green across the board. I was talking about this yesterday, if you remember correctly. As you remember all of you, that I say, I heard all these analysts saying, well, you expect this crash. What crash? What crash? You see, that's the difference between long-term traders, because what happened, they were starting to sink in all their indicators and all that. But you know what? It could happen. It could happen. But it all starts what happens over the course of the day. And you could see we're doing, we have some great movers. I mean, Carbon is still going. We're talking about the stock forever. We're talking about almost 300% moving to the beginning of June. And there's so many more out there. And you know what? There's been some really good option plays. I even see some good leaps that you could do. And some day trades have just been phenomenal with some short-term swings. So we'll talk about a few of them. And just for some of you, it's never, never too late. Everyone thought that the party was over with AI. And we were talking about AI five days ago, when it was at 30. And then it went to 35. Like, crap, do I buy it now? And then it's at 40. The damn thing's almost at 50. Now, obviously we'll talk about that 50 number and all that good stuff. But with that, you should be hearing any music. Music should be off, okay? Cannot hear a foul still. Oh, you should be able to hear me. Hold on, hold on. I see that. Oh, there you go. Should be able, does everybody hear me okay? Sounds should be good for you.  All right. So anyway, let's go and move on. Do some shopping really quick. Let's talk about what happened yesterday and a couple of nice little stock. So listen, what we talk about what happened yesterday should what make you excited about today? What happened on Wednesday should make you excited about Thursday. So what happened on Tuesday or Monday, following day? This is why we wake up in the morning. And just to remind everybody, and I wanna kinda like play it over and over again, remind everybody, when it comes to trading, you know, this is not a full-time job, I personally think, and I think Josh would say the same thing, it seems like things are starting to pick up more in the middle of the day a little bit more. And but it goes, it bounces back and forth. You know, the mornings has been good, middle of the days, but you know, and the end of the day, but yes, the end of the day was phenomenal. Anyway, let's talk about TSSL. This stock was a great movie yesterday. You could see it right out of the gate, beautiful run-up, $16.30, all the way up to about $17, $15.  The chart looks a lot more promising than what it was. AI has just been a non-non-stop. Yesterday, $9.30, this thing, we were talking about yesterday, it was at $42, and I think this was probably the best trade of the morning as of yesterday because you could see it right here at $9.30, $36. This thing just took off, and then it did a double top right here, and then right around 10 o'clock, just made an out of nowhere, boom, went from 45, shot up to about 48, beautiful, beautiful winner, and then listen, do I gotta show it to you again? Here, everybody watching on YouTube? Okay, hold on, let me bring up, I think I can bring up, can I bring up the camera over here on the other one? Oh, yeah, we can, yeah, we can, I can share both. So everybody could probably see me in the cyber group. Look at that, the mouse pad, right there. The best times to trade, worst times to trade, where is your mouse pad?   Anyway, nice little move on that one too, so we had a good run up on that stock, couple other ones. Carvan, I just, I don't know what more to say about this thing, this thing's been moving, unbelievable. $17 to $26, we were watching this back early in May, it was a $10 move. I mean, once they came out with that good news on those earnings announcements, we did really well with that stock. So it's turning not only to be a good day trade, it turned out to be a very good swing trade. I'm not done, we still got a lot more to go, okay? RID, well, by the way, it just lets you know, some of these stocks are going on the watch list, okay? So what did I miss? Okay, we're putting Carvana, we got AI, it's going back on the list, we're putting Carvana back on the list, okay? And by the way, just to remind everybody, Carvana, I don't know if you guys know this, if you've been here before, stock was $350. AI, I don't know if you know this, it was a $180 stock. So, and we'll, in class, obviously, and we'll talk about this when we're all in the cybergroup room, you know that there are times when to trade, when not to trade, and we know we hit these big breaking points, and we'll cover that a little bit more, probably when the market opens up. But a couple other ones, NVIDIA has just been nonstop, okay? And NVIDIA is obviously some of you know, we talk about all the time, I mean, it's not their core business, but the whole AI story, what's going on, it's all coming into, NVIDIA makes the chips for that thing. So their video card is just unbelievable. Nikola, another stock, I don't know where this stock came out in nowhere, but this stock was literally a 50 cent stock, it has been on the tear, we started jumping in about two days ago. So if you go back to our, if you're watching on Twitter or any, or obviously our alerts, we talked about this stock, once it broke a dollar, this thing's been on fire, and you could see it yesterday, it was just a very inexpensive stock, good run up, I mean, only it's about 1130, thing ran to a buck 80. That is a very big move, very big move. You know what, and you want to go trade options because you can't afford it, you bought a thousand shares of the stock at $1.20, it's a $1,200 investment, look how quickly you made that money right there. Another big move, big, another one's making a big comeback, and obviously Boyle, Boyle's been doing great, okay? Boyle, I've been a big fan of that stock, you could see Boyle is starting to make a big comeback, and if you don't know this Boyle, yes it was a $140 stock. So with the whole gas situation going on, you know what, I think the reason why Boyle is probably moving, I don't know if anyone heard here in Congress, you know, they were trying to, I think the White House was trying to, one of their departments was trying to get rid of gas stoves and trying to put regulation on everything, and I think, and the reason why I think it's going up from what I heard is that Congress is trying to pass a law where they can't go after your gas stoves and they're gonna allow it. So that's only been, I heard about two days ago, I don't know, maybe that's why the stock's moving up. So once again, if you're for gas, the Green New Deal, you're totally against it, you gotta remember we are traders, okay? We are traders and we are here, unfortunately with these catastrophes, they make opportunities for us. That's where actually we make most of our money. As much as you might look at COVID and it was one of the biggest catastrophes here in the world, there was great opportunities there to make money for all of us. I mean, Moderna, you could see that stock went up and took off. So there's always opportunities out there. So once again, not to get, as a touchy subject regarding about the gas and stuff like that and not to get political, but when it comes to this, this is what we're talking about. Anyway, maybe that's why it's going up, but it has been moving up really, really nicely. Anyway, what else is moving up in the market? Well, we already got three stocks that are trickling in from yesterday, which is awesome, all right? So a couple of the stocks that came, oh, by the way, a lot of these stocks also are on level four. And you can see right here, Kravana kind of made a big move right here. Once this 16,000 share buyers showed up and Nikola a little bit more on the specky side, but you got these 200,000 share sellers out here. Look at that, that's 200,000, 119,000. We're not talking chump change here, you know what I mean? There's some big orders out there. AI also, you could see some big orders showing up here. This guy just got executed at 4850. That looks awesome. And we'll talk about some others. I want to talk about space, okay? So space had some big news yesterday and it's shockingly, we finally got a stock in the New York Stock Exchange that's up pretty big today. So they're finally launching. And I think I heard something about some Italian people in the military gonna be flying the plane, whatever, but space has took us such a major, major hit over the years. I mean, this is Virgin Atlantic. You wanted to flying out of space, $400,000 to fly on this thing.  You know what I mean? For someone that's a billionaire, if you come from $100,000 salary, that's what someone else kind of put it to me. But anyway, stock had a big run. I don't know if it's really gonna be a good run up as the day goes on because it really hasn't gone anywhere. I was looking at some of the orders out here and they're pretty big. So I'll show you what I'm talking about. We got some iceberg orders here at $48,000 at $6,000 and $10,000. And we got a couple of $48,000 right here. So it's trying to end within a channel. So I don't know if it's, I would probably put this on the B list, but it's all over the news. So, you know, the big thing is this, the more advertised and it gets, the better it is. All right, so we'll keep an eye on that. Another stock that I saw here, we know Nikola, it's already on there. That's on our watch list. iRobot came out with some, I guess they want a lawsuit, I believe I heard.  Remember the three things we teach you at Cybertree University is tradable trend and trap. That first tee, which is the most expensive and 50% of the failure rate, which is not tradable, that's where you get yourself in trouble with iRobot. So just because you hear about it, doesn't mean you can get in and out of it in a comfortable spread, you know, with its volatility. Now that pretty much does it on that. And what else I had here? I had SO, I had this one right here, SONES, I don't know, I'm not really completely sold on SONES. I mean, I had a good move yesterday. Probably gonna take this off. I know Josh was mentioning it earlier and I had on my watch list, but sometimes you can have second thoughts on the stock right here.  Everybody's asked me, Faust, what do you think of this one? Faust, what do you think of this one? Can't talk to you right now, okay? Stop pinging me, stop texting me. All right. Boyle, we know that's on our watch list. What else, those are the ones, what else we had over here, that was pretty good. All right, so I found this one. It's on a downtrend. I'll put it on the watch list. I mean, it's here. Friday's a very difficult Friday mornings. Friday afternoon is actually pretty good, but Friday mornings are a little bit difficult. Oh, look at, we're getting a push in AI again, shocking. We're getting close to that 49 and 50 price range. All right. All right. I saw S moving and also Kava, that also, but that was an IPO from yesterday. And once that stock opened up, it was pretty good. I know a lot of us did trade at yesterday to Kava. That will move pretty nicely. So that wasn't too bad. And Neo's been doing pretty well too. Neo had a really good move. I'll throw Neo back on the watch list. I know yesterday, Neo, we did pretty well on that. It's pretty much does it. Oh, that one too, BB AI. That one, if you remember yesterday, I called that one out too with Josh when we were talking about AI moving. And it's not, you know, it's a lot less expensive. It's in the AI business. You could see anything with the word AI. It's like, always reminds me of Canobie Stocks or .com, I talked about it, you know, yesterday in the cyber group room. But just be careful with the Bay Eye. But BB AI, cheap, a lot less expensive.  Also Microsoft, we all know, is has a lot to do with Chachi TP. And that one also did pretty well too. So that's been doing phenomenal as a run up. All right. Anything I'm missing, I did not call out. Bill is saying, look at the ride. Okay. All right. Now that stock, $500 stock. Look at this thing down to $4.50. Definitely like that ride trade. Definitely like ride. Listen, another stock. I want to throw this out there. Okay. So AAP, advanced auto parts got really beat up. That's coming back to NASDAQ did a big merger. That one's coming back to CSQ made a big comeback cyber traders. This is that the earning that this is the, the stock I was telling you about that pays that big high interest rate. You get paid every month. That one made a big comeback. Okay. I was getting a little nervous on that, on the price of it. I think I remember it pays about eight, eight, nine percent a year, a year pays you, pays you monthly. So you can take the money wherever you want. That one made a big comeback. But I want you to keep an eye on this stock, N-V-I-O. Does anybody know the stock right here? N-V-I-O. Okay. This one right here. Anyway, no. So this is the stock, Osepic. Okay. Everyone knows about the diabetes drug. The stock is doing really, is doing really, really well. I'm probably considered looking as a leap because, and also they own Wagovia. Now everyone's trying to lose that. I don't know if you heard the whole thing. Everybody, it's been on TV a lot. Everyone's looking to find a weight drug. And apparently this is, this is like the miracle drug right out there. Every, every, even Elon Musk was talking about it. So I would keep an eye on this one too. It's expensive. You could probably do more of a swing trade on it. Or N-V-I-O. That's this one. Is it the other one too? Is it N-V, is it N-V-I-O? No, it's N-V-I-O. Andrea, I think it's N-V-I-O. N-V-I-O does not come up. But keep an eye on it. The stock's moving up pretty decently. I'm gonna keep an eye on it. All right. Anything I'm missing, I did not call out. All right. So listen, let's get ready for the market. Open up everybody. Listen, if you're watching on social media right now, if you have your cell phone, you have that little QR code in the top left-hand corner. If you wanna jump in the trading room, just go there, click on it. We'll get you in the cyber group room and you'll see why, you know, and get to meet all the hundreds of traders in our trading room and see how we do with these stocks.   And don't forget, we'll be back here live again at 2.30. Mike, thank you too. And you have a great weekend too, Mike, all right? Thanks everyone, happy trading.


If all the citizens of this nation come together, for sure the problems of this nation will go away. Whatever you think is one thing that should not be there in this nation, make sure that you're not the source of that. With the approaching Republic Day, I wish to know what are the three things that I could do for the nation this year. See, when we say a nation, we're not talking about a land, we're not talking about a political entity, we're talking about people. It's a people which make a nation. It's only in the minds and hearts of people that a nation lives. The land just belongs to this earth, it doesn't belong to any nation. It is only in our minds and hearts, because still as human beings, the whole world cannot live as one, the largest chunk of humanity that you can identify with today is a nation. So how important is a sense of nation, that depends what is the status of the human beings who live there. At different stages or different stages of evolution of a nation, how nationalistic we should be, should be accordingly calibrated. See, pre-independence era, our nationalism had to be on fire, because this was not about living well in this nation, it was about willing to die for this nation. So our nationality or our sense of nationhood had to be really on fire, because we are an occupied nation. But post-independence, we can put our nationhood little bit on the cool. We don't have to be burning so hot, but still when half the people in this country have not even eaten properly, forget about anything else. I'm really not concerned about anything else for human beings. Well, they could be educated, they could be not educated, they could live in a home or live under a tree, they could wear lots of clothes or just a loincloth, they could drive a car or walk, I don't care really. But every human being must be well nourished. This is fundamental and this has to happen. But unfortunately, that's not happened. The maximum number of malnourished children on the planet are still in this nation. Though we are the fastest growing economy in the world, we are the fifth largest economy on the planet, in spite of that, the maximum number of malnourished children are in this country. That one thing, if we solve that every human being here is eating at least what is necessary for them to make a life out of themselves. Today a farmer is going to his field without enough nourishment to do that hard work. A woman is pregnant carrying a child without enough nourishment to nourish a healthy child. A child is going to school without sufficient nourishment to stay alert and learn what he is supposed to learn there. When this is happening, it is important that our sense of nation is little strong, that something burns in our heart and little in the stomach also it must burn, till these things are solved. When people are living well, you can put your nationalism on a much lower sim. Only when nation is in danger, then we raise it, otherwise on a day-to-day basis we cool it. This wisdom has to be there, but right now when half the people have not eaten, a whole lot of people who have eaten well, they're saying we don't need any nationalism, we don't have to feel for this country, what is there, everything, world is one. World is one. I'm also okay with that. But that's not the reality. That is not the political and economic reality of the world. If in many nations what they are throwing away, just throwing away what lands in the trash can, if that comes, most children nourishment would be taken care of. When that is the condition, you cannot be talking about one world and all this. Fancy ideas, great ideas, it's not that I am not with it, I am also for it. But right now it's not realistic. Right now we need to have a strong sense of nationhood because still we have not fed half the people in this country. So I am not saying this so that you don't enjoy your dinner.  I must not only enjoy my dinner, I must put my dinner to good use in my life. Yes or no? Yes and also we must know have a little pain in our heart when I am eating this, I am eating this well, I will make sure what goes into me becomes a part of me, becomes help, well-being and useful activity in my life. And I must know that little pain that many children are going to bed tonight without eating, what they need to eat. This is not to destroy the value of what you're eating. This is to enhance the value of what you're eating. This is not to make you feel guilty of what you're eating.  So what can you do for Republic Day? I would request all of you, wherever the hell you are, go to the nearest school or a district collector's office or wherever, where the national flag flies, stand up and if you don't know, learn the national anthem, there are still four days. Because most of you don't know, I know this and sing it.  You must be a fool even to ask such a question. Who said the problems will go away? But if all the citizens of this nation come together to solve the problems of this nation, for sure the problems of this nation will go away. Oh, you asked for three things. I said only two. You identify. Different people think different things. Some people think it's pollution, some people think it's corruption, some people think it's efficiency, some people think many things. Different people think what is the most important thing that needs to happen in this country. If you think it's discipline, you exhibit that discipline. If you think it's corruption, you make sure you're not that corruption. If you think it's pollution, you make sure you're not the source of that pollution. So whatever you think, don't do what I think. Whatever you think is one thing that should not be there in this nation, you never are the source of that. You may not be able to stop everything. Make sure that you're not the source of that. If possible, make sure as many people as you can influence are also not the source of it. I fulfilled that number three. So we must understand this, nation is not a God-given thing. It is an idea that we hold in our heads. It's an idea into which we invest some emotion and make it a meaningful idea. And that is why it's important because it's not God-given. We made it. That is why it's important. No, but it's… we made it up. So what about it? Yes, because we created it, that is why it's very important, isn't it?  Individual human beings have risen in the name of nation all over the world, willing to live and die for it, men and women have died in this world for the sake of their nations. It need not be like this. Unfortunately, it is like that right now. Instead of thinking how it is unnecessary, it is unnecessary that human beings could live together, but that's not worked out yet. That's still a faraway reality. Right now for you, it is a simple way of transcending your own limitations of being stuck in your personal identities. Nation is a simple way of transcending that. So not just one day, not just one day in a year on the republic day, buy a small flag and fix it in your house. Yes, what is the problem? Wake up in the morning after your sardinize overstand up and our national anthem has been fro... condensed into fifty-two seconds singing. Fifty-two seconds, sing it. Yes, especially if you have children, please do it. This is not for good. Till every child in this country is well nourished, till that time you do it. After that, when national anthem is sung, you can sit down.


Now let's look at an example of an actual packet and I'll use the internet protocol for this example So we look at the structure of an IP datagram So the internet protocol refers to as a datagram instead of a packet So the top two lines here show an example IP datagram that I've recorded in the past So this sequence of if you count them 160 bits I've actually had to wrap the line and I could not fit them all on the one line But what is a packet? It's just a sequence of zeros and ones But what's important is that those zeros and ones have some meaning and A standard normally defines What different bits in that packet mean so first we From what I present here. We can read left to right so the first First bits if I read out a zero one zero zero zero one zero one and the last Two bits are one zero. That's on the second line on the right hand side This is in fact the header of an IP datagram It's not the entire datagram that the data I have not shown So it's just the header and there are 160 bits or 20 bytes What those bits mean What is this control information contained in the IP datagram header? Well, we need to look in the standard to see how the IP datagram header is structured if you look up the The standard for the internet protocol RFC 791 it defines which bits belong to which fields So a header has fields and those fields have values I've highlighted those different fields in the IP header in different colors here So the first field is the first four bits zero one zero zero That is the version of the protocol used in this case The next four bits the green zero one zero one indicate the header length and Then we have further fields as we go through a six-bit field in blue a two-bit field and so on and The last two fields are each 32 bits in length There's the source address and the destination address identifying who created this IP datagram and who is it destined to The standard defines the meaning of how to interpret those field values. So the field values in binary. What do they mean? Some of us some of them are obvious some some are not so obvious For example, the version in binary zero one zero zero in decimal four meaning we're using IP version four The header length zero one zero one in decimal five What does that mean? It doesn't mean the header is five Bites in length. It doesn't mean the header is five bits in length If you look at the standard actually means that the header is five times four bytes in length That is the header field. Sorry the header length field counts in groups of four bytes or 32 bits So a value of five means the header is 20 bytes in length The reason we include the header length in an IP datagram is because you can actually include optional header fields Making the the header larger than 20 bytes The source and destination address 32 bit values. Of course, we can map them to some human-friendly daughter decimal notation 10 10 1 0 1 dot 6 5 for my source address and destination address of course Presenting a packet header or an entire packet in binary is not very convenient for for us humans to look at and and to write down So often we structure it in a different way what I've done here is taken those 160 bits and written them in Five rows each containing 32 bits So in fact from the top we see the first first byte the second byte is eight zeros and Then on the second row we have the fifth byte all the way through to the 20th byte at the end Just a rearrangement of those of that packet header Why don't you that? Because that's the common way to view the IP datagram header Looking at it from the perspective of rows as opposed to a single line or a single row of bits and we get From there to a common diagram that shows up the structure of an IP datagram It shows a row by row each row containing four bytes or 32 bits and By default there are five rows in the IP datagram header 20 bytes the first field in the IP datagram header is the version field and That is contained in the first four bits The next four bits the header length H length on this diagram If we count the bits at zero then the version is bit zero one two three the header length bit four five six seven the 31st bit is The end of the total length field and then the next bit is the start of the identification field So we read road row by row Left to right so this shows the diagram of an IP datagram Including the header the default size of 20 bytes It also shows that in an IP datagram header. We can have optional fields and To make sure that the header is a multiple of four bytes or 32 bits We may need some padding depending upon the length of those options and Then the data follows Later we'll look at how long the data can be the data in this diagram is the payload of this packet So even though packets are just a sequence of bits when we want to draw them or describe them We often for convenience draw them row by row There's a typo there for convenience headers and trailer fields often drawn row by row Sometimes we even draw them in a in a simpler form We just draw the header and the data or the payload as in this case So instead of drawing all the individual header fields as row by row We draw a single row indicating the IP header followed by the data or the payload and we may List those header fields underneath the header. So just different ways to to communicate the the structure of a packet This gives the actual values all the header fields and their values for the example IP datagram header that I showed So the the version IP version for the header length 20 bytes Even though the value was five because it's interpreted as five times four bytes and the other fields All the way through this through to the source and destination address One thing to note there is there's in the middle. There's some flags used Recall a flag usually is a single bit value when it's zero it means some feature is off or not set When it's one that fit a feature is on or true or set So in this example IP datagram There was a flag that says the don't fragment Option is set. You should not fragment this datagram And there's a another flag a single bit values saying that there are no more fragments that if the more fragments Feature or option is not set because the flag value is zero next. We'll look at How do we determine what the a good size of a packet is?


In 1968, a famous book came out about Paul Ehrlich, one of the great, great environmentalists that people still worship to this day, that said that hundreds of millions of people were going to die of starvation during the 70s because of overpopulation. It didn't happen. So when I look at these things, these string of failures, I am skeptical, I'm skeptical of what they tell me next about the end of the world. The end of the world ain't happening. Now I'd love to hear about the successes, but love to, sometimes. I'm going to have a catastrophic losses. Let me keep going. Now, let's say, let's say that they're right. Let's say the globe is warming. Let's say it's all true. I'll grant you it all. I'll grant you the carbon, the human beings are causing the warming. It stopped 14 years ago for some reason, but 60 years ago. But let's say it's still happening, right? What's the solution? I can guarantee you one thing. That the solution cannot be, should not be, must not be, stop using carbon fuels. Because what that actually means is stop living. You can laugh. Everything around you is made of carbon, fuels. Of oil. Of natural gas. The plastic of the chairs you're sitting on. This bottle. This cup. Most of the, most of the synthetics in your clothes are made from carbon. Most of the stuff in this room is made from oil vipers. Stop using oil. Stop refining oil. It might as well go back 300 years to when we were all poor. We were all starving. We were all subsistence farming. Children died before the age of 10. Life sucked. Carbon emissions are created while you are finding the oil to create the plastic. What do you think carbon emissions come from? The whole process is about carbon emissions. You know when you stop at mini carbon? This is where you lose people. You stop at mini carbon when you're dead. Only time when your footprint is zero. And I guess some people like that. They want us to have a zero footprint. Yes.