Live from Cube headquarters in Palo Alto, California. It's the Silicon Valley Friday Show with John Furrier. Okay, welcome everyone to the Silicon Valley Friday Show. I'm John Furrier here at Palo Alto for Friday, our show. I'm joined with Paul Martino. Coming back as a guest, Paul. Skyping in from Las Vegas. Holiday with his family. Paul, great to have you join in on Skype. Thanks for taking the time. I mean, I stopped the family vacation for this, John. So how can I help you? I know you're Milamelo in your older age.  Very successful venture capital firm. Very easy time in Vegas for you. What's on the plans? Just relaxing in your room, going a few shows, little gambling. You guys, my father-in-law's 70th birthday, so we're here for a big party. Awesome.  You had really had the real first, in my opinion, kind of really precise commentary on all the data and elections. And then also now we're 100 days in for Trump. His first 100 days are happening. And just in general, there's just a ton of politics going on. And I wrote a post on Facebook last night just to try to get a sense from folks on, you know, the serious question we've had, you know, in my commentary on the show is, is there a serious interest and should we do a political weekly video show? Question, does Silicon Valley need its own meat depress? Now, I kind of threw that out there as a chum in the water, but it was amazing. It was almost a 50-50, no, no, no, yes, do it. And I got a ton of direct messages. And, you know, I think some of the things that you've been commentating on on your Facebook feed has been kind of pointing to the fact that the old days, politics in Silicon Valley really didn't have much to talk about. Yeah, certainly immigration, that's gotten better and better now.   All the tech leaders are meeting with the president. You got the Uber situation, both at, you know, on a cultural level and also government level.  And you're in the middle level. You were just down in D.C. last week.  What's your take on what's happening and the clash between the intersection between technology and politics? So let me first talk about that 50-50 split that you described. I find a lot of people right now are disappointed that their Facebook feed is so entirely filled with political posts that I'm not surprised more people weren't against the idea. And by the way, I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to have a Silicon Valley meets politics show. I just think asking your Facebook friends was a very biased selection to take. I posted some pictures from when I was in fifth grade at a birthday party the other day and everyone sent me mail saying, thank God you posted something other than politics this week. So I think there's a bit of fatigue if you go to Facebook as your sample for that. But I think what you're seeing right now is it's very clear that Silicon Valley absolutely is paying attention to politics and politics is paying attention to Silicon Valley maybe for the first time in our careers. The, it's interesting. I totally agree on the Facebook bias. I mean, it literally is, it's depressing actually. I find it actually a downer and one night I just was so fed up. I just logged out. Some people actually checking out of Facebook for a long time and seeing that consistently going on.   Then you got Facebook in the middle of it at the center of the fake news. And that article that came out last week weaponizing AI, kind of talking about the gamification of fake news. You can't help but look at these platforms and say, there's no editorial, there's no voice. It's how does it, it's all, it's a quant shock game right now. So I just find it very disheartening. And you know, you obviously talked about that last time, but what's the answer to this? The fake news problem is an extremely difficult problem because there are essentially two classes of fake news.  George Bush senior, this went around about two weeks ago. Most of the fake news though gets into the category where it is not a verifiable single fact, but it is a opinionated statement about something that might be going on. And depending on your left or right bias, you might view it as fake news or not. This is an extremely difficult problem. AI will not solve this anytime soon. And so I think people who say, somehow we're gonna have a set of moderators or a set of AI deem an article true or not true. I don't see that happening anytime soon because I view this as a levels of gray problem as opposed to a complete black and white problem. The truly factually false stories are easy to identify. That's not where the fake news problem is. Paul, you and I had a podcast almost 10 years ago.  I was in the collective intelligence game and you were doing a lot of stuff around data, ad placement and whatnot, arbitraging and cooler, predictive analytics before it was hot.  I mean, you're talking about the wisdom of crowds. Yeah, that's been around for a while, but I mean, more than ever now, the trusted sources are at risk. I mean, people now are on one hand saying, the New York Times can't be trusted, but yet that's one of the most trustful trade or industry newspapers around, but yet there's biases there. But is there a new collective intelligence opportunity there? There has to be an answer to this problem, but it's not obvious to me right now. So even though in general I'm a pretty optimistic guy, I'm pessimistic about solutions in the short run for this particular problem. I am definitely of the camp that views places like the Washington Post and the New York Times is heavily biased. I wouldn't say that the reporting is incorrect, but is highly slanted. And that is the harder problem to deal with than factually incorrect reporting. And to some extent you even see what people like the Oms-Budsman recently said, where they basically came out and said, well, the president's lying, so we have to treat him differently. We're actually gonna treat the use of the word lie differently with this president than any other president in history. And so when you change the rules because the president's behaving differently, you have to ask yourself, were the rules fair to begin with? Yeah, who said in the rules? That's a good point. So I gotta ask you a question. You were in DC. What's going on there? You've been meeting folks down there. What's going on? What's your view from the front lines as you talk to folks in and around Washington? Obviously there's the divide. There's two different camps out there. Highly polarized, a lot of anger. What's the scoop at the West Wing? What's going on in the plumbing of the government and in the society around the DC circles? Yeah, so there's an energy, whether you like or don't like what Trump is doing, there's an energy in DC because DC's hot and in vogue right now. It's like what it was like in 2000 in Silicon Valley. Everyone was paying attention to what we're doing. Everybody's paying attention to what Washington's doing. And there are definitely points in time where no one's paying attention to what Washington's doing. So there's a certain level of activity and excitement there regardless of which side of the aisle you're on. But the thing I struggle with right now is there is no way that the pace of protests, outrage, et cetera can possibly continue. I think I post it at the end of Trump's first week, something on Facebook to the effect, hey, one week down, only 203 to go. And now five weeks in, it seems like the pace hasn't slowed down at all. There is no way that this pace can continue for the next 200 more weeks. I just think fatigue will set in if it hasn't already set in. You're seeing articles even about how SNL tuners are tuning out because the Trump jokes are old now. It's boring. We've seen enough of it. Let's get another joke on the TV. Well, I said in our live ratings are high and Alec Baldwin has more and more stuff in there. But I mean, is there, besides the fatigue factor, I mean, what's the positive coming out of this? Because you've been very vocal around just putting out data and really kind of playing it at more as, hey, you're an educated person trying to get facts. And a lot of people are in the same camp that you're in, which is, you know, I really want to look at the data and I want to look at the biases and treat them differently. I want to understand them. And yeah, people are getting their heads chopped off of they just say anything, right? These days it feels like it just is no discourse, civil discourse of any kind. What's your take on that? You're in the middle of it. What's the, where do you see it going besides the fact that we can't keep up the pace? But John, you have to set the tone. And so while I bring up provocative points of view on my Facebook page, I do interviews of this kind and by the way, I was thrilled when I was on your show last time. You couldn't believe the number of people on both sides of the aisle who reached out to me gave me commentary thoughts through potentially a next time coming on the show. But we have to be adults about this. We have to set the terms of trade. And when someone puts that sarcastic comment in there or that insulting comment on your page, I delete it, I have to moderate it, right? And so if you're gonna have an intelligent discussion about media bias, if you're gonna have an intelligent discussion about the policies of the president, you need a forum that is free from the kind of awful attacks that this has become. The personalization of politics, the Saul Alinsky technique of personalizing and making fun of the opposition is really starting to come home to roost. And I just think people like us who actually have a bit of a platform need to stand up to that and say, if you wanna have honest discourse, if you wanna debate me, come on right in. But if you wanna just call me a name, then I have no time for you. The, I totally agree. Jeff Frick and I were talking about this called civil discourse. That's essentially how the country runs. Any impact on your take on other technologists who are trying to get involved? Because one of the things I see as a bright spot coming out of all this is the engagement level. Granted, there's a level of attacks and personalization, as you mentioned, to your political stance, but depending who you are. But there seems to be more engagement around this. Have you seen any positive things come out of this that you could point to that says, hey, you know, there are some things happening. I mean, my daughter who's a sophomore in high school, you know, she and I, she was talking to me on the right to school today about immigration and there's a lot of Mexican immigrants in California. So she was kind of feeling like, you know, she thinks that there should be some accountability. That's not an entitlement. This is my daughter, very conservative viewpoint. I'm like, well, I would not, I'm afraid to say that in school. That's a direct quote. So she sees the empathy, but she also sees the other side, which is, you know, America's not an entitlement and my wife's grandparents immigrated this country and they learned the language and they did those things. So it's a balance between that kind of tone of the younger generation getting more involved, you seem more engagement. So I was in DC last week and they had a protest on the Thursday that I was in town where a day without immigrants and a lot of the restaurants were closed and this was to make a point. And I really thought to myself, because the restaurant I was gonna go to for my meeting was actually closed because it was a day without immigrants. And I thought to myself, who exactly is this message targeted at? Oh, I know it's targeted at Trump, but just by enforcing anti-immigration laws that we have on the books, does that really make the administration anti-immigrant? Has Trump ever come out and said, you know, we're closing the borders forever and we're never gonna let another immigrant come in? So a lot of people in Silicon Valley have also said, well, you know, the policies of this administration are gonna make it more difficult for my companies to hire people. Well, does that mean you were illegally hiring people before? So I think there needs to be a rational discourse around this. Are Trump's policies really designed to close off the borders forever?  Because that was the message of the protests on Thursday. And I asked some of the protesters I ran into on the street. I said, do you really think the doors are closed forever? And I think there's a big disconnect between some of the hysterical press around what Trump is doing and what the actual implications are. And I think that has to stop.  And therefore, I don't even need to speak to you. And it's a serious takedown. We obviously see that. I wanna switch gears on the entrepreneurial question because that's something that obviously, we've talked about in the past and one of the things I'm certainly passionate about is the tech policies around entrepreneurship. You fund startups either early stage and or with bullpen, metaphor coming out of the bullpen, relief picture, if you will. You bridge companies that are potentially what they call walking dead or zombies or ones that haven't broken through that need that bridge capital. A lot of them are immigrants and not American citizens. Some cases are on H-1B visa or they just got a path of citizenship or just got their green card. So I know you partially work with a lot of folks that have gone through the immigration process. Entrepreneurship is the lifeblood of this country.  The Irish immigrants from my side of the family, the Italians from my wife's side or whatever ethnic place you're from, that's been immigration. And they've come to the country and a lot of companies have been built. And just- Absolutely, absolutely. I don't see that stopping anytime soon because there's a more aggressive stance towards illegal immigration. I mean, to some extent, the most recent orders and advice to ICE are enforcement of existing laws on the books as opposed to new specific laws. By the way, John, I have to correct you on one thing though. Bullpen does not do bridge rounds. These are not walking dead companies. These are companies that are six to 12 months away from their series A milestone. Going into the business of trying to pick the zombies that will survive is a very difficult business. And I don't think I'm smart enough to do that one. Good point of clarification. We're Paul Martino, the founder and also managing director of Bullpen Capital. I stand corrected. I knew that for a fact. I was just kind of generally speaking, there's a lot of startups that are falling in that category. So I kind of misspoke there. But you do pick, look for the ones that are, I would say diamonds in the roughs as we talked about in the past. But this is the opportunity that we're talking about. You're an actual person who writes checks to fund growth companies. That creates jobs, right? Back on the job thing, jobs are created. And the thing that now that's center stage, certainly in the political sphere is this whole jobs coming back to America. But one of those things that's killing those jobs is automation. Bill Gates was basically commenting that robots should be taxed. And I don't know if that's tongue in cheek or legit, but he's kind of highlighting that you're going to see machine learning, you're going to see automation. And those jobs might not be manufacturing. So they might never come back, but that you're still going to need a machinist to run the machines, if you will. So the jobs, we believe in Silicon Angle that those jobs are going to increase significantly. I mean, look at just in cybersecurity and in AI right now or Internet of Things. There's more openings in big data, cyber surveillance, than can be filled by qualified people. And it's in the millions of potential. So this whole retraining thing comes up. So this is kind of the area that is again becoming a political football. Job, what kind of jobs? The jobs that yet haven't been created on education systems. So again, back to education's hit by it. Your thoughts on all that. So I had the honor of being on a panel that Lincoln Initiative sponsored with Charles Murray, the author of the Bell Curve. He's out now actually touting UBI as the answer to many of your problems. I actually debated him. I think he thought I would be a pro UBI. What's UBI? Can you just, what's UBI? Yeah, universal basic income as a way to combat the job losses. And it was very funny. I think he thought I would come out since my credentials were of Silicon Valley as a UBI supporter. And I came out to some extent as a UBI skeptic because in general, every time an entitlement program is created, it creates new entitlement and the other one doesn't go away. And so it was very interesting. He thought I think I was gonna be his ally in the argument. And I ended up proving to be the skeptic, whereas I think most people in Silicon Valley would have been more on his side that it would be an interesting experiment to go run if we had universal basic income as a solution to potentially deal with the automation that will likely decimate jobs. I fundamentally said that's the Luddite fallacy. Years and years have gone by, decades have gone by and we've had this Luddite fallacy over and over again that this time is different, this time is different. But every time it has created dislocation but we've had more efficiency on the backside of it. And so my challenge back to the people on that side of the fence is why is it different this time? I've heard it's been different for the last 50 years. It was never different for those last 50 years. So why is it this time different? Well, John Markoff was on a panel, Rob Hofer, our editor in chief at Silicon Angle was two nights ago, John Markoff, Paul Saffler were on a panel here in Silicon Valley and that came up. And one of the things that the fallacy question was, ATMs were supposed to put tellers out of business when in fact there's more tellers now because the efficiencies have shifted to more branches opening up, hence more people. So again, this is where the blind spot is in my mind. Do you agree? I'm saying maybe at some point in our lifetimes, John, that happens where this time really is different. But you know, I'm not good at predicting the future. I never said I was. I like to look at companies in six to 12 month increments and see if they're gonna hit their business plans. I'm good at that.  I think that kind of almost just intellectual, intellectualizing just because you have a form to do so is not necessarily helpful. Well, there's bombastic predictions like that that are kind of groping for thought leadership or being a futurist, whatever the buzzword is. But Paul, you have been really through your work on the cutting edge of social networks before social networks, you did tribe. And again, you kind of, you get drawn in and knowing you personally. So being a visionary is just being a little bit faster than the other guy, right? So how far out you wanna predict is always the challenge. But that's really the key thing. And investing in companies is hard too. That's really difficult. But I wanna get something that you have experience in, millennials and the younger generation. I mentioned my daughter who's a sophomore in high school. You look at a lot of entrepreneurs that come in. What's the current mindset right now? Can you just anecdotally classify or globalize what the current sentiment is for the younger generation? I'm talking about entrepreneurs coming right either dropping out of college or graduating right out of college or having a master's degree under 30. What's the mindset of those folks out there right now across the broad spectrum of sentiment from politics to geopolitical to entrepreneurship? What's the, and technology, what's the mindset for the younger generation? John, there's an amazing thing that's happened over the last, I don't know, five years as accelerated but maybe it started 10 years ago. You know, the era of cheap, the era of lean made it cheap to start a company. But this had this also additional side effect that it democratized who could actually start the company. And you see a level of energy because entrepreneurship is now more accessible to a larger swath of the population. You know, when I was doing my first company about 20 years ago, you know, you had to be your PhD dropout from Stanford or Princeton or something like that to get paid attention to, to have the technical chops, to have the ability to groys the five to $10 million to go build a prototype. You know, you're seeing students who were 16, 18, 20 years old from their dorm rooms from their parents' bedrooms on a couple thousand dollars to get products out that get millions of users. And so this democratization of the front end of the funnel of entrepreneurship has led to an excitement that I don't know that we've ever seen before. And only good things are gonna come out of this is my guess. And you see that excitement anytime you talk to someone from the millennial generation. And it's kind of made entrepreneurship be very cool right now. You know, I was once in a meeting, I think I told you the story once before, I was in a meeting with a bunch of celebrities in Hollywood and the producer of the film I was involved in, he said to me, he says, Paul, you gotta understand one thing, when you're in the room with those people, when they go to bed at night, they dream of being you. And now these are big time celebrities. And this was something I was thinking there. I'm like, I'm like, no, come on, you're pulling my leg. But sure enough, that was the best advice I got going into that meeting because when they go to bed at night, they wanna be us, where we have careers are whole lives ahead of us. We can be entrepreneurs at 20, at 50, at 80. A lot of times if you're in Hollywood, your career is over when you're 30 or 40 or, you know, you've hit the ceiling. So it's very exciting to be in our business, especially when there's so much excitement worldwide around this new democratization that's happened. And we get to do this for the rest of our lives, John. Yeah, I'm 51, still going strong. So, you know, I'm gonna keep running. Again, the joke is entrepreneurs work 80 hour weeks to avoid working 40 hour weeks as the joke goes. Paul, final question, given that your tone and sentiment of, you know, leading, having civil discourse and moderating behavior on Facebook. I mean, you can't help but notice the trouble PR, trouble Uber's in right now. Travis, the CEO, he's only 40, right? So he's 11 years younger than I am. You know, young guys and young guys, they do wild things and certainly the culture has grown. It's a rocket ship venture. It's a classic case of just massive growth and over hiring potentially. Processes may not be as smooth and certainly they're in an HR problem. The sexual harassment claims are pretty significant. So some bad behavior.  I mean, there's always been bad behavior in high growth companies. Not saying they can excuse for Uber, but they're in a tough spot. How bad should he quit? Should he be forced out? I mean, that's dangerous when you start getting the founders under pressure over things that can be fixed. And he is apologizing. What's your thoughts on Uber's current situation? I have no idea the level of details, the depths of the problem. You know, one person came out. Obviously there will be others that come out. What I have to say about this is the following. And I've said this about many other kinds of discrimination, harassment, et cetera. The buck must stop. You know, if this happens in your office, you have to stop it from happening again. You have to take appropriate action. And the idea that you sweep it under the rug because someone's a top performer is BS to me. Right? You are in charge. Just like I said, we have to have civil discourse on Facebook. If you're in charge of the company, or you're in charge of HR at the company and something like this happens and you brush it under the rug because, oh, that person's a good performer, that is unacceptable. We should not allow that to be an answer. But we also shouldn't go on a witch hunt and say, well, geez, we need programs of awareness at every single tech company because this is such a widespread thing and it always happens. I promise you that if one of my companies what happened, happened. That person would have been fired and been out because that's how I ran my company. There was an adult in charge. Now, I'm not saying Travis is not an adult in charge. We don't know enough of the information. But the buck must stop and you must take action when the wrong things happen. But let's not get the reeducation camp going for all of Silicon Valley because a couple of companies didn't behave the right way. Yeah, all right. Paul Martino, we'll leave it at that. Great job. And hey, love the work you're doing. I think as you intellectually use your social graph and your network to surface data on the politics, I find that fascinating. It's been an inspiration to me. In fact, it's got me thinking about doing more political coverage and again, honest and textual conversations is what it's all about. And I think tech is now fully intersected with politics. I am not a political person, but I want to be informed. And so appreciate the input. Thanks so much. Paul Martino, everyone. Great to have Paul on the cube here on the Silicon Valley Friday show in Palo Alto. I'm John Furrier and what a great show. Great to have Paul on, bringing that commentary and being honest about the political situation. But more importantly, he highlights some of the big things that are happening around Silicon Valley and technology. He mentioned the Uber thing, which I want to just make a comment on. I think I was talking on Facebook just last night and was looking at some of the things Sarah Lacey, in particular, she was really taking a task on Uber and thrown onto the bus, quite frankly, by a lot of her peers. And I made a comment on her Facebook page that said, stay with it, hang in there and remember the people who threw into the bus and remember the people who stood with you. And she was really a victimized by, in my opinion, by the Uber program or culture now coming out in a lawsuit that they have a lot of sexual harassment. And I was also getting some private messages from some other folks, essentially verifying that the Uber culture really is about, from the top down as a very harassment oriented, kind of fast and loose startup. Here's my take on that. My take is that this stuff happens in these high growth companies. And as Paul Martina pointed out, and I think really is the key point, is you got to be on these things right away. If you don't eliminate these weeds in the soil, pull them out and get rid of them, then it's going to faster. I think Uber is a classic case of a rocket ship growth company, AKA Unicorn, just run by a bunch of young guys. Travis, the C is only 40 years old, so they're in the prime of their life and they're fast and loose. So there's bad behavior. The key is eliminate it, fix it, and right now they got a lot of problems on their hands. So good kudos to Paul for pointing that out. Now, you think Uber's problems were bad with that PR, looking at siliconangle.com, just the front page of our site, check out for the latest news, Alphabet, which is Google, Waymo, which is their self-driving car unit, says Uber stole key parts of their self-driving technology. So breaking news there, you thought Uber had their own cultural problems. They're back in the fray here. So a lot of dynamics going on around Uber. The delete Uber has been a viral campaign. I hope this doesn't cause them to go into a spiral. I'm a big fan of Uber as a service, like Lyft as well. And again, I would hate to see that company get poisoned from the inside out so that hopefully this doesn't happen. Other things on silicon angle, HPE investors are unhappy as revenues and profit outlook fall. Again, their earnings did not come in. Splunk issues weaker, first quarter outlook pushes the shares down by Paul Gillan and of course, beyond the phones, IOT and 5G, announcement at Mobile World Congress. We're gonna have two days, Monday and Tuesday, 8 a.m. Pacific Standard Time to six, Monday and Tuesday, breaking down all the coverage of Mobile World Congress. So check us out. We're gonna be wall-to-wall coverage. So thanks for watching Silicon Valley Friday Show. I'm John Furrier, see you next week.


Hey guys, it's Nate, AKA the Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. Happy Thursday. Hopefully you guys are opening your week in league rewards. Hopefully they are going well. I assume there's a lot of gold three action going around, a lot of gold three rewards. Good luck with those. It seems like everybody's playing the gold three these days. And that kind of explains why the market sell-offs are usually on Saturdays as well, because people get their games done and they just sell their teams and stuff like that. But that's besides the point. But good luck on those rewards today if you are opening them. We need to talk about the next promo that is coming in this game. That is team of the group stage. I want to start off by talking about what happened last year in this promo. I just did a bunch of research. Look back at some of my videos from a year ago. Looked at some price graphs and stuff like that during the promo. I want to talk about what we got last year, the timeframe, how it's different from this year compared to last year as well, with Black Friday being a week later this year than it was last year. I think that affects a few things on the market in the way it's going to go this year. So let's take a look at a FIFA 19 team of the group stage, which actually, I may be wrong on this, but this might have been the first loading screen that we actually got in foot. This might have been the first loading screen that we got last year. I could be wrong about that. But this promo came out this week last year and it kind of makes sense that it has to come out this week because they're going to get into foot miss and get into the Christmas time. If they push it off another week, especially with road to the final stuff happening, we'll talk about those cards in today's video as well. But this is a loading screen that we saw last year. Messy, Neymar and Bale. And this caused a lot of panic on the market last year. When they put this loading screen up, it was Thursday, it was like late Thursday I think. Late Thursday is when they put this loading screen up last year. I do think there's a possibility that we will get a loading screen today on Thursday after 6 p.m. UK. They've been doing a loading screen for every promo so far this year and I would expect another one to come really soon. Probably like a car design. You'll see that on Twitter and probably like the overlay of the pack design as well. So look out for that stuff on Twitter today. I think it is going to be coming and that would be real true signs that the promo is actually coming itself. I want to take a look at the squad really fast. I'm going to look at it on footman because I think it's easier. We had a ton of really, really big-name guys last year. Messi, Neymar, Lewandowski, Griezmann, Bale, Ericsson. Like this starting 11 is fantastic. The player selection was fantastic. The upgrades weren't that amazing to be honest. I think at this point Ericsson already had an informer too and he was getting another card so Lewa probably had an informer last year as well. Lewa got a decent upgrade from what I remember last year. But a lot of these cards were position change and that is where the hype was on these cards.  We had the center attacking, Medneymar, who made waves on the game last year. We'll look at some of that and talk about what happened with that card last year. And then we had some Saladier real-play cards as well with La Celso. This is when the rise of Havertz started to happen before he got his FFS card, DiBala on the bench. This is a card that I traded with for like the rest of the year of FIFA and Loft is cheek as well. I made a lot of coins in that card last year. So really solid team selection last year, to be honest. And it was a pack promo. This promo is basically based on a promo team that is in packs. They're gonna run lighting rounds again. They're gonna sell out fast, just like they always do. But last year, these cards were really rare. Their pack weight was really, really low. Kind of like Road to the Finals this year. And that made really fun trading with these guys for the rest of the year and especially during this promo. So I wanna take a look at some of the objectives in SBCs we got this year as well. We got one objective player, it was Marco Parolo. Now these are not live items. And this is something that a lot of people got mixed up with last year. And I think they got mixed up with it because we had so many live items coming out. We had one to watch. We had the brand new Road to the Final cards. And those were live. So every time we got a card, people were like, oh, it's a live item. Well, these were not actually live items. And you'll see if we look at some graphs that they acted like live items sometimes. But be assured, these are not live, okay? They're not gonna be live this year. They were not live last year. This is a team basically of some of the best performers throughout the group stages of Champions League football. Now, it's actually not over yet, right? The group stages are not over just yet. But they released this promo just before the end of them just because of the timeframe that it is. And they run the promo in that timeframe. So we had one objective last year, it was Parolo. And then we had a couple SBCs. One of the first SBCs was Tony Cruz. And I actually did this SBC last year. This one was good value. I mean, all you had, it was one squad. All you had to do was turn in an 85 rated squad. Is that what it was? I know there's a couple. No, I forget what this is. It says 83 nationalities, two. It was very cheap. This squad was very, very cheap. I didn't know that. But that was a solid card. That was the best value SBC out of all of them. I think this was like 120K or something like that if I remember correctly. We had a La Porte card, which a lot of people did, but it was decently pricey. And then we had a very, very pricey. Yeah, look at this. This Insigné striker card, which was very good, but four different squads. You had to turn in for the Insigné. It was very overpriced in my opinion. But that was an SBC that we did get last year. So we got Insigné, we got La Porte, and we got Tony Cruz with one objective being Parolo. And last week what they also did during this promo was they put out a lot of the UCL SBCs. Like last year we only got UCLs from SBCs and PAX Apply. So we saw a lot of those SBCs last year that were in the store as well. A lot of like UCL, whatever, upgrade, SBCs, stuff like that. But I wanna talk about the implications of this promotion right now and where we are at right now in FIFA. I do think this promo is coming and I do think that it's gonna cost some waves on the market. So last year, of course, I wanna talk about that Neymar card a little bit more. Neymar this year and Neymar last year are basically the same in terms of hype. Neymar this year is literally one of the best cards in the game. Right now he's right around a million coins, 1060, 1059 is the cheapest version of Neymar on the market at the moment. And last year what happened was we got this loading screen on foot. And basically it showed that we were getting a center attack in mid Neymar. I don't know if you guys remember this at all. But this Neymar right here was super, super expensive first day. And this 93 Neymar, which had just been in packs for best of team of the week during Black Friday. This card took a massive, massive hit. I was on Xbox last year, so you're gonna be hearing some Xbox prices when I'm talking about this. But this guy was like 900, he was like 950 or something like that. Maybe even over a million coins. And the dude went from that 950, almost a mill, all the way down to 830, 820,000 coins when this loading screen came out. There was a ton of panic selling on Neymar, which also then circled to many other areas of the market last year. Because of this loading screen, because of the position change Neymar and the upgrade, and people saw that card and they were like, oh my goodness, that card's insane. Like there was a ton of hype for this Neymar card last year. Because of the position change and because that this card was in so many teams. But when that card came out, that Neymar, this one right here, was like three million coins first day, or like whatever, million coins. It was insanely expensive. Can we reload here, footprint? Thank you. That nobody could buy it, man. Look at this, 3.4 million first days, what it shows on Friday. He went down to like 2.7, but still that's over double the price of what this card was. So then this inform one of the biggest flips last year that you could have made early on in the game. This guy was like 830K on Xbox. He went all the way back up to 980,000 coins in the span of one day. Literally in the span of one day, Friday morning panic selling on these cards was crazy. So that's the kind of stuff that I want you guys to be prepared for. I want you to be ready for. You should be ready for it. For Thursday, like a Thursday night, or a Friday morning panic sell, you should have all your week in the flips completed. So that shouldn't be an issue there. But I wanna talk about the areas of the market that I think you're gonna see the panic selling hit the most and hit the heaviest. Obviously, depending on who gets into this team of the group stage, we just had a best of team of the week that so many people invested in. And a lot of people are gonna be dumping these cards today on the market and trying to sell them. Ben Yetter was down at like 180, 190,000 coins. A lot of people bought him at like 200 that range. He's now up to 230. Some people have taken their coins. I'm sure that a lot of people have just held him as well. Watch that card today. There might be some, his card might stay the same or maybe even drop a little bit today because I feel like these best of team of the weeks are over invested in. But if we get a loading screen with a couple guys on the screen for that promo and you start to see a lot of panic selling, that's one reason why this Neymar card from last year that 93 left wing left forward. Yes, it was very popular, but it had so much supply from being in best of team of the week for Black Friday, that that just accentuated the panic sell because so many people had that card. He was impacts again for a second week and that could see if any of these guys that got best of team of the week, and we're talking Hazard, I don't think maybe could get, probably won't get in. Mane, I wouldn't really expect for him to get in because he already has a UCL live card. He's got the inform as well. But if any of the best of team of the week guys do end up getting in, you could see some big time panic selling on those cards and you could also see some panic selling on informs. I'm gonna go over here and take a quick look at some of the best guys so far that have played in Champions League. Lewandowski, Holland, Kane, Sterling, Sun. All these guys are some of the top scorers so far. Lettaro Martinez is a good possibility to get one of these cards. They could throw it in Abape this year. I don't really, you don't see the possibility for a Neymar, but I think Lewandowski is a shoe in. I think Harry Kane should be in. I think Sterling should be in. So there's a lot of people that are on this list, a lot of really, really solid cards that we could see in this promo and it really just depends on what cards EA wants to put out. I didn't really go back and look at the stats from last year to see like who were the guys they put in and stuff like that. Like what those cards actually did. But I wanna look at always when we get a new team of promo cards. I want you guys to learn how to be, to know when a new promo card is going to be valuable and be useful based on that position and that league and where that player fits in amongst all the other types of players in his area of the game. So like last year, this center-back Socrates, in the Premier League last year we only had a couple center-backs at this point in the game. We had UCL Live VVD, we had Van Dyke and those were like the main two guys that you would use in your team. Did I say UCL Live VVD? I said UCL Live VVD and Van Dyke. I meant to say UCL Live Davenson Sanchez and Van Dyke. Van Dyke technically had a UCL Live card as well. But this Socrates comes into the game, really solid card, right? 72 pace, 86 defending, 84 physical, medium-high work rate which is perfect. And this guy was amazing, amazing to flip. Like literally, he was phenomenal for flipping. And this guy kind of broke the market a little bit. You saw some panic selling on that road to the final Davenson Sanchez. And that's another area this year where I want you guys to really, really take a look on. If we see, since these are champions league-related cards, if you see panic selling on any of the road to the finals, Scream cards, those cards are very, very rare in this game, especially these road to the finals. And if you see any panic selling on these cards because of another one coming out, that would be something that I would say is an opportunity to keep a very, very close eye on because these cards are gonna get upgraded next week. Next week is the last matchday, it's matchday six of champions league. So definitely watch these guys because they're gonna get upgraded next week if they're moving on, which a lot of them are. And if, let's say they get a team of the group stage card, so like maybe like Veran. I don't know if Veran's been playing well or not. This is just an example. This might not be correct at all, but this is just an example. Let's say Veran gets a team of the group stage card. You might see some panic selling on Militow just because it's Real Madrid and Veran is arguably another one of the most used centerbacks in this game. So maybe people go sell their Militow to try the Veran, right? That would be a massive opportunity to go buy this Militow card because it's gonna get upgraded in a couple of days. And it's still one of the best centerbacks in the game. And people would probably try to play this two together. That might not be the best example, but let's say we maybe get like, I don't know, we already have a Martial, we have a Mane. What would it be another good example? Let's say we maybe get like, we have a Bale and a Dembele. Man, I can't think of a good example here. What if we said like, we got a, let's say Nabri. Let's say Nabri gets a massive card and this Sancho goes down in price. Dortmund isn't necessarily guaranteed to go on to the next round. They have to have a good game to get there, I think, based on the standings. But if you see this card drop down a bunch in price, that could be it in a pickup. A pickup opportunity in the panic sell, buy, and then sell later when he goes back up into the next week. So that's what I want you guys to focus on. You get the gist of it, right? Watch out for the panic this week. On Friday morning before the promo, that's where you should see a lot of the panic and that's where you should pick up on a lot of the cards. That's where it happened last year. The Neymar went down to 830K on his Inform and then it went back up to just around a million coins about 20 after that. So watch the panic on Friday morning, on Thursday when they put out the promo screen if they have players in that promo screen, really keep an eye on that and watch those cards. Now other stuff that moved during the promo, like I mentioned, the road to the final cards, there's definitely an opportunity there for those to drop in price if there's a substitute good, basically that comes on the market for that card, kind of replacing it or drawing hype to that one. Maybe like, let's say we couldn't have a Sane, but let's say there's a left wing in the prem that comes out and team the group stage and this card drops in price, this road to the final money, which we'll be getting upgraded because Liverpool is going on. That will be a great place to pick up on some of the panic. That's like the substitute good, not compliments, substitute good kind of trading with the panic selling and that's why Neymar went down because people wanted to go get his other card instead of his left wing, left forward Inform. So keep an eye on some of that stuff, especially that's the main point that I wanted to make to you guys today. And again, I really, really be careful with some of those best of team of the weak cards and just because they have so much supply and if you see one of those get panic sold, especially if it's a really popular one, like a Mane, even a Hazard, or I'm not sure a nine goal in, but maybe a DiBala possibly, if you see any panic selling on any of those, they're all top to your cards so you should see a bit of a rebound there. And of course, look for the link investments. Some of the link investments are gonna rise. Let's say we get like, maybe like somebody from the Serie A or from Roma like Juan Jesus, obviously is a do for an upgrade as Roma could definitely move on. The card's like 80K right now. He's up a ton already from where he was at his lowest point. But maybe we see like a right back come out from maybe like from Roma or a Brazilian right back or some other card that links to Juan Jesus, like a green link, you're looking for the green links. That would be the complimentary good to one of those. You could see a price like this go up even more. So stuff like that is what we could really look out for over team of the group stage. Again, if we go back and flip in and look at this squad from last year, these guys were so, so rare. And they were cards that were coming onto the market that people could slot right into their teams. There was a lot of like, we had three Barcelona players last year. So there was a lot of players from a couple of different teams. I think we had two from Bayern as well. We had Lewandowski and Humels, of course. We had Neymar, was any other PSG, not in this team. But there was a lot of the Barcelona players. So that's the kind of stuff that you can really look out for. And then position changes as well. These cards are rare, they're position changes. That means people are gonna pay the big bucks for them. And that means they're gonna fluctuate like crazy. I remember last year, this Griezmann card, the very first night. I think I just watched one of my own YouTube videos from last year where this Griezmann card was like 500,000 coins flat Friday night around midnight UK time, maybe like two, three AM UK time. Kind of the dead time of the market. The UK woke up the next morning on Saturday to play their foot champions games. They wanted to try this card out, the position change Griezmann. He went up all the way back to 680,000 coins. This card right here went from 500 to 680 last year on the Xbox after that first night. So these cards last year were a perfect and prime example of being able to flip cards, the new special cards from the new promo that first night. I mean, I remember flipping Socrates for like 15, 20K a card. Remember flipping this guy right here. Loftus Cheek was like 12, 13K that very first night. He almost went to discard. The next morning, he went all the way up to 28,000 coins. Just the power of the Premier League cards, power of the English nationality and just how easy people could slot a card like that in their team. So that's the kind of stuff we're gonna be looking out for with this promo as well. Other areas of the market that you could see move. Obviously high-rated's are really, really inflated right now, especially some of the really high tier guys like Vertong and his 87-rated's are still like 24, 25,000 coins for an 87, an 89-rated card, like 40,000 coins, they're up like 5, 6K cards from where they were at their lowest point. That's the kind of stuff that you really have to be careful with because I'm not gonna advise, hey, go do a club stock or invest in some of the high-rated's at their current prices. I really wanna see them get hit with the packs this weekend. If you see those dip low, possibly this weekend, the team of the packs are gonna be gone by the end of this week. All that we're gonna have in the squad building section are like the leftover player of the months that are gonna be here and all these upgrades are gonna be gone by tomorrow. So before this promo comes, they're gonna be gone. We'll just have a couple of extra SBC's left in here and the base icon. So I think you should see a dip on the prices of the 83s of the 84s. Some of the high-rated cards could stay a little bit higher, but I think people will do less icon upgrade SBC's just because it won't be able to craft them with the 81 to 87 or the 82 plus packs. So you might see those cards drop a little bit as well. Again, I would expect more SBC's from this promo. I would expect a cool team, cool set of cards and probably an objective card as well. I mean, they've been doing, they've been doing actually not too bad with some of these objectives. The Josh King definitely have to work your butt off for. You have to do like the chips, what is it? You have to do score a volley, that's what it is. Score a volley and four separate rivals matches. This was FIFA 19. You could do that in one game, but this is not FIFA 19. It's hard to score goals in this game. So they're definitely making you grind for a card like this, but it's a solid card and that's what we want, right? That's what people wanted this year and they were getting the objectives. But like this Black Friday objective right here was money winning certain matches from certain game modes. How many am I off on this? I'm 10 out of 15. I might have to try to play some games before these go away. But that's how I feel about team, the group stage boys. Will I see a massive crash in the market in terms of other areas of special cards? Not really that much. And if there is, it's going to be centralized to Thursday night and Friday morning is when you're going to see any panic and it's going to shoot right back up into Friday night into Weekend League. Because again, we are post Black Friday. People have tons of coins on this game. So I don't think you have to go out and sell your team. I don't think there's anything that you have to do in terms of getting ready for this promo, honestly, until we actually get a loading screen. And let's say this guy like Neymar that comes out again, gets a position change card. Maybe not Neymar, but maybe, I don't know. Whatever example it is, a position change card comes out in the game and your card, like an inform or whatever just drops in the panic. Again, it's probably going to be super duper overpriced and super duper overvalued that first day that you're going to be able to, if you really want to sell that card, sell it the next day after all the panic selling, and then that card goes back up because the new promo card is still very, very expensive. And that's just one thing. That's a good, just trading knowledge that you guys can pick up on is a lot of times when that very top to your card is so much higher than the other one and there's panic selling on that next highest card, that next highest card is going to rebound back up a little bit just because people have to use that card on their team, right? Especially like in a guy like Neymar last year, he was the absolute best example you could possibly ask for just because he was so meta and so used in that game. So remember, watch for the panic selling Thursday night, Friday morning. Is there anything you can do to prepare for this? I don't really think you can. Maybe stock the club with just rare golds and non-rare golds if from rewards tonight. If you see the high rate has dropped a little bit from rewards today, maybe you see like 84 rate of players like 4K, 85 is at seven and then 86 is at like 12. Then I would say maybe do a club stock on a few of those if you can get them on bid or whatever. But other than that, just sit tight, man. Sit tight and wait and see what happens this weekend and just keep in mind the panic and the flipping opportunity that these new cards should have on this game and of course keep your eye out for panic selling on all areas of the market, but especially road to the finals because they are going to get put back and they are going to get upgraded this next week. So watch some of that stuff as well. The icons shouldn't really move because none of these cards, not quite that many of them yet, are getting to an icon level. You might see some icons even go up based on what cards we get for this promo and what links could possibly open up because of that. So team the group stage promo this weekend, it should be a fun one. It was a fun promo last year as a pack-based promo. Some people kind of complained again because the upgrades weren't that good if we take one last look at the team. Some people complained because they weren't that good but it was still a solid promo. Still a fun couple of days, some solid content in terms of SBCs and objectives and just cool new cards that were on the game that we get to trade with then we get to try out on our teams and possibly make some new squads with with the position changes and everything like that. So, and it's also cool to this related Champions League which is I'm so glad that EA got those licenses back from Pez because it just has allowed for a ton of new content and a lot of cool content to a league of games and the championship football that we like to see and enjoy watching. So I'm excited for this promo this week. That's all I can say about that. Should be a fun one. We're gonna make some coins and have fun while doing it, okay? If you enjoyed this video, smash the thumbs up on it. Comment down below if you have any questions and of course subscribe to the channel. 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This next team is going to hit expectations, Kyrie is going to have to be great, Kevin Durant is going to have to be great and healthy. Who else do you hone in on and say they're really going to have to step up for this team to hit expectations? Well, think about the way that Karris Laverde played last season. To me, he was the team MVP. He played very well during the regular season. He played very well for them in the bubble. The key will be, Ryan, what are you going to do with him? Are you going to start him and bring him off the bench? Because he's very good with the ball in his hands as a playmaker. He's starting to elevate his game. I don't see any reason why he can't continue. But I also think Joe Harris, deservedly so, he got paid. He's going to be so important to what they do because he shoots threes, he spaces the floor and then of course Spencer Dinwoody, another terrific offensive player. So I think early on for Steve Nash, the challenge will be trying to figure out how to get all these guys what minutes they're going to play and who's going to be the starting five. It feels like a very deep team, Frank. Just looking at the depth chart, I mean it looks like a deep squad. And I think that's the importance of the bubble. And everyone knew last season, alright, the Nets weren't a championship team without Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. But they got something of value by going into the bubble, playing games that mattered, being in the playoffs. Think about it, what it did for the development of these younger players. And I think this year, that experience will pay off for the Brooklyn Nets. Even a guy like Timothee Luwawu Cabaro, right, who looked like a rotation piece for this team. Frank, if it was up to you, you mentioned the question before. Quick comment here. Kevin Durant, it comes to Karis Lavert. In your ideal world, does he come off the bench, control the offense, or does he find a way to play off the ball? You know what, maybe I'll bring Spencer off the bench and I'll start Karis Lavert. With Jared Allen, obviously Joe Harris, and then the two big guys, Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.


Good morning everyone. Thank you again to John and to Cap for hosting us today and to Carl for organizing this fantastic event. This is my second law.gov workshop that I've had the pleasure to participate in and I'm delighted to be here today in support of this initiative and as Prita said point out I want to sort of reiterate the comment that we're very eager to hear the discussion here and develop suggestions that are useful to us particularly within from my perspective within the executive branch of government what we can do to support the access to legal information. So I'm going to be trying to be strict with the time including with myself which means I will be very brief in my introduction to focus a little bit on our perspective from the executive branch side and then I have the pleasure to be joined here today by Steven Schulze to my left who is the associate director of the Princeton Princeton Center for Information Technology and Policy and most notably one of the co-creators of the RECAP project along with Harlan Yu who's together here today the Firefox plug-in which many of you know about that tries to break the paywall of PACER if you will by putting up legal information online from PACER and making it freely available. To his left is David Mao in the newly created position right of deputy law librarian at the Library of Congress who focuses on the global legal research portfolio at the Library of Congress and to his left is Lawrence Tribe now senior counselor to for access to justice at the Department of Justice and on leave is Carl M. Loeb University professor and a renowned professor of constitutional law at Harvard Law School. So I'm very honored to be part of this panel and have the again the unfortunate job of simply being the timekeeper and having to reign in people who otherwise we could listen to them talk all day. So we're here very much because of course as head of the open government initiative my job is to support openness with regard to the workings of government and the information of government and that includes of course access to legal information very much so if not centrally. I'm very pleased to report that as part of the open government process whereby now 29 CFO Act agencies and another dozen besides have created open government plans a number of them and I hope more to follow suit are providing access to specifically legal information. So for example HUD as providing raw access to their ALGA opinions as a result of the open government process but we want to get more federal agencies involved in the process of making sure that the legal information they create is put up online in raw and accessible format. So to the extent to which their executive branch materials that we can identify that when we can make them more accessible and more available in XML raw formats we want to do so and to use this process to hopefully identify more potential such clients to be part of the law.gov movement. We have also of course been spearheading their two projects I want to single out in particular because they are ones where Carl Malamud and public resource.org and the law.gov movement have really played a central role in advising the accessibility of patent information which is of tremendous corpus of information that is of great use of what we sometimes term high-value information to helping not only create more accessible government but also to create entrepreneurial opportunities and greater innovation and the opportunity for people potentially to build businesses and build jobs around access to the corpus of patent literature the USPTO has recently made available just in the last couple of weeks in a public-private partnership with Google with public resources help I might add to try to make this important information available and to not let technical obstacles stand in the way in other words outdated government infrastructure to making necessary legal information that is essential to doing the research necessary to improve the patent system but again also to help people build businesses using that information and second and we'll hear a lot more about this today so I won't belabor this is the phenomenal project of making the federal register really the newspaper of our democracy one of the most important collections of legal information about the executive branch action available last year in xml format we'll hear from the federal register team today Stephen has also been involved with this work is making xml based download of the federal register available for free instead of for the fee of $17,000 is now making it available for free and so i'm glad that very mostly is here today to talk about that project and what's really important about this and this is to echo something that carl mentioned earlier and john talked about as well is that by liberating that data it then allowed third-party partners whether the folks at princeton or the folks at public resource or the folks from golf pols who are here today to talk about their work to then take that information and do something with it to create new versions of the federal register that are searchable by theme that are searchable by geography that are easier to read that are formatted better and to do the kinds of things that preta alluded to earlier in other words if you make this information available please try to create the hyperlinks well that's exactly what happened now with the federal register project again in partnership with narra and with the public printer mike wash is here as well today and so what's exciting is when we liberate this data it's then what people can do with it to actually create more value out of it to do the things that are sometimes unexpected that we don't can't predict as you mentioned what people will actually do so we're excited about these efforts as with the patent information as with the federal register data to think about how liberating legal information will help us to make it more accessible to people but also more intelligible to people to help those people who do for example research on citation networks to find patterns in information to again help us to organize legal information better and provide access to those who need it the most so it's very exciting to think about what we might do here both to strengthen the rule of law by making legal information more accessible to help people in the juice business who need to process their mangoes in safe and healthy ways but ultimately what I think this initiative really is about is about whether it's a specifically about legal information or about all government information it's about putting that information out there as the way of operating for any 21st century institution we have to understand that by making this information freely available whether it's court transcripts or you know water sanitation codes by making it available we empower people to use that information to create greater value out of it to make it more accessible but also again to potentially create jobs to create economic opportunity using that information and ultimately in turn to make these institutions work better so what you'll hear about this afternoon in greater detail is how now thanks to the liberation of the xml version of the federal register and the work of these third party institutions who then prototype new versions of the federal register we've been able to now reincorporate those improvements into how we as the government will deliver the federal register so how we will improve the institution how we will be able to essentially re-engineer the plane while flying it i like that expression to use this combination of transparency combined with citizen engagement combined with these kinds of partnerships that we might develop to actually make our institutions work better and empower people in the process so i am very happy to be here today in support of this effort and hope that we will get lots of suggestions not only about the information that we can identify and make accessible but that the partnerships that we might create in order to create greater value out of that information as we turn it of out there let it loose make it accessible to people to do the exciting things with it that we know that we need following the pathways in the case as we've heard about creating the hyperlinks but doing the things that we could never have imagined and won't be able to anticipate that will surprise us and excite us and make our democracy stronger and better and more exciting


He knows what day it is, he knows what day it is. So it's an exciting workshop day, we're going down to London. Exciting for a number of reasons, three, at least I can think of. One, Georgie's, and Chogie, aka, first workshop, been on seminars, been on workshop, now coming along as a coach. So first experience, the other thing is, Abbey, who are you all going to come down? Who's coming down? Who's coming down? I don't know, this is too early. Oh look at that, look at that coming down, close they are. And it's International Handstand Day, which means obviously we've all got to do a handstand. We've got to teach 20 people to do a handstand, so we can get a nice picture. I told you just about your tan, Abbey. What's happened yesterday? It's a little bit sore, a little bit tender. I've already put cream on this morning, just in case I get any rays of sun. Right, we're going to be inside of things today. Progress. Tinting from the beginning, exclusive handstand work. One more way, guys. Vlogging of vlog.  Ah, there we go. Alright, finally.  On brand. I love it. Give us a Saturday. Super Saturday, Saturday is super. Getting super top on a Saturday, everyone will say it. We're live, we're here, it's called the Calisthenics, up in 316 Stains. Let's get it. Midway in the workshop. The beginning is about really well, great group. It is warm, it's like a heat wave. I think it's 30 odd degrees here and you can, unheard of. So drinking water is very important. Not doing enough of that and it's time to eat. And I've got a bit of meatballs, beef and spinach for today. And then we've got the treats for the way around. The standard 85% Motha Ross dark chocolate. But a little bit of spice to allow it to later get into the cup. So. Simba. I've had a curry already. This is pudding. You've had a curry? Yeah, I've had a pudding. So this is an amazing oats recipe that I've got from Matt and Gemma. They're great friends. Shout out to him. Madeleine. Madeleine did. Orange peel, it tastes like a chocolate orange. Put that off, Jackie. You can have a go if you like. So, beginner's workshop, done. Lunch done. Lucasade. Happy having taken part in that workshop. Tim's just taken the guys through the movement, found a bit of movement prep work with the progressions workshop in the afternoon. And this one is going to be fire. Partly because it's ridiculously hot, but also we've got a great group here and we're looking forward to seeing people redefine their impossible. And we're looking at that prog to handstand, muscle ups, human flights. Push back up, T2. Let's go, 6, 1, rep to Y, T and a W. Press, press, press. Down? Yes. Right. So, since Charles is a lot of ribcage down, what we're all going to get away from is losing this action between ribcage and an X. You've got to keep ribcage locked down. So, the entire base here, push, glip it on the other side. So, anti-recycler, possible attack. You can split me beside. You should be able to create a nice, strong, rigid position here. But strong enough. You should be able to create a nice, strong position. So, just make a line for the leg. Completely, and that's just come down, come down so close. So we're going to take, we'll run through this, great, just run through the level. The second position, first thing we're going to try is 70,000 feet. So Tim could do a really bad position, that's about three feet wide up, going one on the back with my hand forward and even more in your blood, doesn't it? He's going to count three feet down 70,000 feet, just like we're doing on that structure there. Shoulder walking is a good thing. He then feels four of these in a part way. Now I'm just going to count my hand three. He should maintain that way through, as he says he will do that. The further you take the lead, the more away from your good point, the more you've got to control it. So as I take the hand, you've got a good hand to deal with. We shouldn't be able to get him in there. If we go around and we get him in back, we need to be in a positive position. So all I want you to do is to go only as far as you can, to maintain a good position. And then I'm going to get him in the middle of the level. If you start with one on the back, one on the middle of the two, I'm going to take a two hour strategy to maintain a good shape. And then we're going to get him in the middle. He has to move towards the start of the progression. It's time to wait for him to head down.  I'm just going to pull it up in the air. So opposite arm, legs, I'm going to go to the coordination focus. I want people to be sure that coordination is sufficient. Into the muscle ups in the progression workshop now. Just taking them very fast for it. Here we go. Good. And so don't gas yourself. There he is, I don't know. Yeah, so just go through the process slowly. Truss that process. And then just go and just push you and me. Go one at a time. Good, so false grip. So false grip. Where's the ring? Yeah, the ring was in your fingers. It needs to come over here. Not in your fingers. More, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more. Really get that over, over, over, over, over, over, over. Yeah, still grip tight. Okay, bring the box over. So where's the ring now? You think, yeah. So bring the box over. And now, right. So yeah, grab it, right, right into there. Now bring it down good. Now bend the wrist. Right, keep, no, no, no. Where you at, yeah? Now bring the elbows in tight. Right, that's where it's got to stay. Feel it on there? Whereas before it was here. Yeah? Right, now better. Good, there you go. But it feels harder, but it's different. You've never done it before. Feels weird. So yeah, so we need to keep these guys loose on the inside and the outside and work on that flexibility there. Being able to get into that shape. Yeah, if that feels tight, it's going to be difficult to make it feel easy. You need to just work on that flexibility into the wrist, just like any other joint. It needs to be worked. But if you've never done it before, it's brand new. So go steady and progressive with it. You don't have to do one today. Might be next month, but it might be six months. It might be what I think, it doesn't matter when it is. It's not a race. Yeah, get that right, yeah, yeah. How many are you on? It's go time. Oh, go to these two. We've got one already. Yeah, we have one. Samson's birthday present. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. We're going to see. Who's going first? We're going to be synchronising. Feet must be off the floor. I think we need the rings. Don't lean too far by, he's a feet faster. Quick. Move your feet. Go on, enjoy, you go. I think we'll benefit from just being higher up. Because you're so low down. Yeah. Yeah, have a rest. Samson, show me one high up. That's better. Yeah, yeah. Do a couple of reps, low down with the band and then come back. You're going for three. Oh, he has. Keep him close, keep him close, keep him close. So just for those, we're not going to set you guys up here. As in, this isn't the rack, the rack is here. And because this is fixed, now the middle bar is spinning, which has just made it exciting for me. But we won't make it more difficult for you. We'll make it easy. I'll go here, and the body works to get back into the car, pull that back up. So we're going to play around some shimadal to start, but these are good for strong positioning. So when you guys succeed in hang, can you go in the line, get back in?   Watch your legs. If you show them, you can go and say you can roll, you can hang, you can transfer them, all the time, you start to go to the side, you can see your bra for that. Give it a go. Hit, there you go. I can do like, literally, they are bruised this much. And what I want to do is get away from this scrunchie, and to drive hand into the floor, be the control man, and shall we get to look at the grid as well, because I haven't done balance.  But a nice progression is out. It was over there. Right, Richard, five hours in because you came to the beginners as well. Yeah. Push away, push away, push away, push away. There you go, there you go, there you go. Nice. Yeah, but don't neglect the other side. Like, train both, but it might be you need to stay super tucked on the other side. You'll benefit now from, if you watch, you're not completely horizontal. That top arm needs to stay straight, which you do in a second, and push away with that bottom, and then the hip is lower than the shoulders. So you'll benefit from, super nice top. Make the nicest, are you on Instagram? Yeah, yes I am, I've never been on Instagram. I don't know what your name is on it. Hey Timbo, work shot finished, successful? Three, one, two, three. Can you, now, can you say baklava? Well I don't know. Baklava, baklava, baklava, baklava for the trip back. For the trip, yeah. I think I really like it, do you like that? Just for you Timbo. It's not the same Abbey, it's not the same. It's true, I'm not just saying that. It makes a massive difference. Taking the pressure off, because people want to talk and they want to take photos, and they want to answer questions, and that's, from a promo perspective, we want all that stuff on social, but when we're busy like, trying to sell a kit, people's leave. Yeah, it's setting, big job, drives, chucking out the log on drive. It was warmed in there today, wasn't it? E-Wave. It was warm. We had this conversation sometimes on the way home, it was how much would you pay. We had to stay in ourselves and we went back from worship, we did our chocolate, and we talked about how much would you pay to be at home right now. I'd be doing it. I'd be doing it. I'd be doing it. That would be a compliment to me. If you're at home, I guess you've got another hour when she gets back. George, how much would you pay to be at home right now? I'd be shopping somewhere in the middle. I've got the drabs of the barbecue waiting for them when I get back. Slightly overdone sausage. Slightly overdid it on the McLaren. Have you got a drive now to this field? Yes. But it'd be preferable if you did. But you need to come. I'm rhetorically going to say that it's your choice. It's actually not your choice at all. You know where Mrs. Jack is. It's been a good day. It's been a great day. Really good workshop. Two amazing groups of people. It's probably some of the most able to have some people which is not a massive prerequisite. It's just sometimes happens that we get people at different levels of their progression to do a great job. It's really like good first wins on things like muscle ups, handstands. How many week muscle ups did you count? Right, I've hit traffic. That's going to... Yeah, traffic would break me right now. Like that. Looking forward to Edinburgh. Next week. Next week. Although I'm not looking. Now. Chance to be at anything this before next week is zero. How much would I pay to be at Edinburgh instantly when you set off for the six-hour journey on Friday afternoon? Yeah, it's going to be a long journey. More than 6,640. Have we ridden the front bus? Yeah. Which is great. Nice. But not the most luxurious. Mrs. Jacko is going to be happy. Swapping. Are we all going to sit up front? Or is it? Am I sitting in the back?  You're definitely vlogging this. Vlog that, Jenny! Yeah, there was a time where I was sitting in the back months and Jacko was driving with Mrs. Jacko in a passenger seat and I got called to Mora. It was preceded by the F word. Oh. Was it her? No. Yeah, that didn't go down well. I thought it was hilarious. You know, in the back of the future, Martin would be like, nobody calls me chicken. It's the one thing Catherine's not allowed to call us Mora. She chose it. I'm probably not going to pull this in the vlog. It's time. Why are we telling it? Class dismissed. Oh my God. Didn't you want to go like what? Yeah, we'll do it again. So, until next time. Class dismissed. Bye.


Hey everybody, this is Christian Buckley doing another MVP buzz chat and I'm talking today with Heidi. Hello. Hello, Christian. Thanks for having me. It's good to see you again. Of course, I've already seen you this year. So I feel spoiled. It's like we've seen each other more than a couple times a year now.  Sure. So my name is Heidi Jordan. I am a senior modern workplace consultant with Avanade. And I am out of Sioux Falls, South Dakota.  It's pretty lonely. So it's fun to have the tech community, you know, to gravitate towards and see at events and whatnot. So. Well, it's like, yeah. Like where do you are? I mean, this time of year, you basically just, you make sure you have plenty of supplies and. Yeah. Fill up the bathtub. As Liz said in a tweet a couple of weeks ago, you know, we get these big blizzards and you just load up on some food and turn on Netflix and, you know, just hang out. It's beautiful. I've often said for folks that don't, haven't been out to that part of the world.  I love the Black Hills, Rushmore is my favorite national monument. It's just, it's just fantastic area out there. And I've often said it's like, I, like I love more rural settings and have me lived in the Sierra Nevada as part of my teenage years. I just, I, it has that same vibe for those that know, like Placerville, South Lake Tahoe, like in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada's, the Black Hills has the same vibe as that. It's like, I could live over there. Nope. See, I'm actually from Minnesota. So I never, I rarely make it out to the Black Hills, even I've lived in South Dakota now for probably 15 years, but I've only been out to the Black Hills like maybe once or twice. I'm actually a Minnesota Lake country girl. So that's, well, it's beautiful out there too.   I kind of zigzag through, like stop, do all the little town stuff. And every time I'm just like, I could live here. This is beautiful. This is fantastic. But then I remember the winters. Oh, gosh, I know. Yeah, you got to come back in the summer sometime. I feel like when you were here a couple of weeks ago, it was winter and that just wasn't fair. I've been out there again. My daughter's there just up north of Minneapolis. And it's, I mean, yeah, walking along the river and the parks and summers are gorgeous in Minnesota. Yes, for sure. So I always like to ask that question, the origin story question. So you as a relatively new MVP, so still fresh in your mind. What was the, what was your path to becoming the MVP? What was that like for you? Yeah, it was actually a really quick one. I really think we just kind of started those conversations like last year with my mentor kind of going on that track. And, you know, she kind of said it, this isn't really something you seek. It just comes to you, you know, so just really be active with community. Just keep doing what you're doing, be an advocate, be a driving positive force for Microsoft, and then things are just going to happen. So that's really what I went into with that mindset. Well, plus you just started it out by saying that you had a mentor and that's something that look at. And so I'm part of like Microsoft for startups programs. I've always had a formal mentorship relationships at different companies that it was with and inside and outside like career mentors that were not part of my company. And so what are your suggestions there for people that don't have a mentor? I think that you just got to find someone that you gravitate towards, whether that's like on social media or at conferences or something. Just find a person that you're a lot alike. So like I will call out lists on that. I'll mention her all day. She's the best. So she I had met her at a conference or at a SharePoint Saturday and she was a she was into marching band as and so was I in college. So that was just that kind of cool fact, like maybe gravitate towards her. And I really liked her delivery and I just kind of reached out and said, hey, you know, would you mind being my mentor? So I think, again, just find someone that you're kind of close to, find someone in the community, find someone that may be the same technology parallel that you're in or, you know, and just they will most likely say, yes, you know, people in this tech community love to help others. That's kind of what binds us all together. So more than likely someone will be willing to help you out. Well, I have to say, though, the problem I have with with Liz is that like she just doesn't get sarcasm. Right. Yeah, she's not that way at all. I know it's I've got a real problem with that. I tell her that all the time to her face. I'm not shy of that. But Liz is awesome. So hashtag not Tracy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. She's also very dangerous for crochet needles. So don't get on her bad side. Oh, yeah. No, I know. Whip up those blankets left and right. So yeah. Well, so so what are you focused on now? So business applications, NDP for like. So what is your focus there with business apps? Sure, I think Power Platform is really my, you know, but more as, you know, there's many components to Power Platform. But I kind of gravitate towards the Power Apps and Power Automate. The I really got my start building solutions using InfoPath and SharePoint Designer. So really that whole how do we actually make this work for our business? That's kind of where I gravitate towards helping people actually put those into play in their businesses and understanding those tools and really the evangelization, evangelization side of it, you know, that this this can work for you. And here's how. Where do organizations mainly struggle with Power Platform? Is it like on the governance side? Or is that because I keep hearing that pop up. And of course, my new company, REN Core, we've got a solution. There's other solution providers that are doing things. I was just on a PGI call. So MVP call. So the NDA can't talk about what we talked about, but was kind of focused on aspects of governance of Power Platform. But what are some of the things that companies struggle with as they're starting up? Sure. I think that, you know, it's really we're kind of going through a phase now. So the initial phase was Oh, no, InfoPath is dead. You know, and now what are we going to do? So then everyone was kind of scrambling to see what the next solution was. And so then they started to look into the Power Platform. So it was really that phase was how do we get started? How do we remediate these InfoPath forms? Do we need to go to other tools? You know, just really a discovery phase of trying to see what was out there with the next offering for Microsoft. You know, and now I think that the solutions are out there. Hopefully, unfortunately, a lot of businesses are saying the Wild West, you know, these solutions everywhere. And there are a lot because a lot of third party solutions popped up in the meantime as well. And and while I look, I don't focus on that area, but you don't hear about any one solution out there because Power Platform, the community side, is just really taken off. But you know, and again, the Wild West, like the all these things. And now how do we actually get a handle on that? I think that the the citizen developers in IT are kind of coming together in the middle and they need to figure out a way to actually govern it. And that's why the whole governance thing is really popular right now. You know, the the COE toolkit is a big thing, which I think if you haven't heard of that, you know, that's the it's you can download it and it's a way to you know, how many apps do I have out there? What are you know, what's our utilization? How are people actually adopting this platform? And it gives you those statistics right out of the box. So I think that's kind of a hot topic right now with governance. That's actually another area. I mean, just the whole concept of having a center of excellence. I love that Microsoft came out early with that and promoted that out there. It's free go and check it out. There's a lot that's been written on that topic. But I I mean, I really look at that as Microsoft learned from past tool deployments, other platforms and waiting until late stage to develop some of that, those best practices and provide that that guidance. And so it's great that they did that. So that's always a recommendation. If you you don't know where to start with that, make sure that you go and take a look at the re materials. And there's a way that you can kind of baby step your way into leveraging the COE to keep, you know, at least start down the path of having some semblance of governance in place of what's being built within your organization. For sure. And you can really put it in at any point. You know, you could do it at the beginning. You could do it at the end, like any part of your journey. It's nice that it helps at any phase to give some insight. But it really isn't like me and I'll be all though, you know, it's not the stopping point. Like once you have this installed, like that's not it. You need to know what to do with that. You know, and that's really where people are trying to take the next steps now on what do we do with this? Like once the part platform takes off, you're going to need staff. You're going to need people that know how to support these tickets that are coming in and really keep the platform, you know, keep that under control. Well, and there's there's the life cycle of the solutions as well. So I mean, you can see that you can see the data, but you still didn't have to go take action, make decisions on it. And then you're seeing people that are now seeing more and more. And this is a sorry, this kind of a pet peeve early in the when teams was first rolled out. There's a lot of us in the MVP community that we're pushing to Microsoft and saying, hey, the multi-tenancy issue, it's a major issue. It's a huge gap. And they're like, well, you guys, your special case is a small number of scenarios where that that's the case. And it's become this mainstreamed, you know, problem that's out there and larger organizations in the power platform have this issue where they're looking at, well, how do we transport? How do we move, you know, the life cycle of the solutions? How do we extend this to other parts? If we acquire a company, if we have multi-tenants within a single organization, much less through M&A, we acquire other companies or merge companies and bring them together. And how do we share these things? That's becoming a more and more common scenario. And, you know, it's not just power platform. It's across it's a Microsoft 365 issue. But it's again, Microsoft is starting to recognize, you know, hey, these MVPs that voiced this concern early on, like this is a, yeah, we need to solve these problems. Yep. And you feel like we're entering the, you know, in 2020, it was the whole like the rush to teams in the hybrid workplace and all that. And I feel like everything's have settled down a little bit from that. And now we're really able to refocus and start working on some of these issues, you know, and really growing the technology and seeing all the things that are coming out with FIVA. And, you know, it's just fun to see how we're really broadening our horizons now and getting back to our focus on the tools. I always say this like about sprawl in general is that, you know, the sprawl, it's messy. It's the Wild West. There's cleanup, all those kinds of things. But it's also an indication that people are using the technology. And when people use it, then that kind of begets it. It forces organizations to go and, OK, let's look at the governance process. Look at the life cycle of the, let's look at the content that's being used. Is it being done in the right way? Do we need to mature? Take kind of a, you know, a CMM maturity model approach to these solutions. And and so it's rare that you find a company that is early in the phase that says, hey, we're going to go and adopt these things. Let's go back and look at best practices and see the right way to do these things. No, they jump with both feet in, mess things up, and then they go clean up things later. So I think that's the vast majority. It's a it's a rare instance where somebody wants to go and put all of that in place up front before people are starting building things. Oh, yeah, I've never come across any company that has done that, you know. It's one of those. There's somebody will claim that and then you dig into the story of what they were actually doing. And it's usually it's because they're new to Microsoft Stack or Power Platform, but they had a long history of all the mistakes on some other technology stack. Exactly. I think this drives home the importance of like internal user groups, too. I think that just sharing that message, you know, is people are more likely to listen to each other coworkers than I tell them what to do. So I think that it's the power of an internal user group just to do that show and tell and, you know, maybe people are focused on their own lines of businesses in their departments and they're really focusing on those pieces of the platform and the tools that work for their department. I think it's so powerful. And I highly encourage any business to get that going and, you know, keep maintaining that and let users share with each other. Even if there's I would say because I've had this, I'm sure you've had similar experience, like even if there's just two of you sitting at lunch, having conversations about that, and a lot of user groups, internal user groups might start that way, two or three people getting together. But I remember doing this and consistently meeting together and it got bigger. They were, you know, at the end, they were, you know, consistent participation monthly, 12 to 15 people, sometimes a lot larger than that. But just the sharing of, you know, hey, take a look at this. I found this thing. Were you aware of that? Oh, hey, yeah, I built something similar, but I didn't see that. And kind of those conversations internally where you have that shared interest about the success of the company, it's it's really powerful. It's it you get a lot of help sometimes that's unlooked for in improving the quality of the solutions that you build. These are the people that are using it every day.  Right. No, it's a look, I talked about written a lot about community building, but it's you just need to be consistent. You need to be, you know, willing to to be that driver, to be the one that's always showing up that's there every time. And, you know, don't get caught up in the the the fact that, hey, there aren't 30, 40, 50 people at this meeting as a measurement of success. Again, two or three people getting together can help each other and you get value out of out of that. Absolutely. That's one thing that Liz, again, Liz, shout out to Liz. You know, it has said about right when you present at conferences, you know, as long as you reach one person in that room like you did your job, you know, it doesn't matter how many people are in the room. I always say that. So I started my on stage career. I was the lead singer of an alternative rock band in the early 90s. And I would always say that I'm not especially a shy person anyway. But I tell you it occasionally we played a gig where it was us, maybe one person, sometimes they'd walk back to the bar and go to drink. There'd be nobody there. And we just like looking at each other and we're like, hey, it's another practice like we're getting value out of this and being here. But yeah, it's a user group of one, not useful. But again, minimum of two people.  It's all you need. So what I heard from that is that you're going to do karaoke at the next no conference or something to karaoke. We always did all original music. So that's yeah. Yeah. Well, good times. Well, what's so what are your kind of your big topics you're focusing on? What are you writing and speaking on right now? Sure. Yeah, I'm working on for the next conference. I'll be in Las Vegas in May. I am doing a new session on Power Automate and six kind of tips to keep your business flowing. So what I'm doing with that is there are in the field I've worked with, you know, building these solutions with Power Apps and Power Automate. There are some concepts that are seemingly easy for, you know, but actually aren't in the long run. So I'm trying to just oversimplify those concepts, things like assign a task to a group, you know, some of those like key things that are actually big parts of your solutions and just kind of going over those and showing users how to do those. So that's one of my sessions. And then the other one, I'm going to do my Power Apps tips from a first time user, where I tell my story of how I actually got started with Power Apps coming from a InfoPath background.  Like I will be very clear and transparent about that. Like this is not an easy tool to adopt. So I like to point out some of those things that I struggled with in the beginning and just point those out so users can go and just get started on their journey with, you know, a little more smoothly than I did. And I have to ask this question. Are you still supporting any InfoPath solutions out there? Or are you completely recovered? I am me personally, no, I am loving helping people remediate their info pathforms, though, in my current position. So, yes, that's actually one of my favorite projects to work on right now. I was getting those info. I was like to share that. So in the so this is back before the Y2K thing. So in the 90s, so I went to work, I was working for EDS. They tried to recruit me to become a COBOL engineer. And and the reason I didn't do it was because they wanted to send me down to Texas, I was in Northern California for a couple of months and I was newly married and without my wife and my daughter. And I'm like, no, no. So, you know, that was the big decision. Of course, I knew a couple of people that were in that program and continued to be COBOL programmers that made a bank on Y2K and after that, in financial systems, you know, it there's still a thing that's out there. But and I'm sure there are still COBOL programs out there. There's not many of them, so they make a lot of money. And so I like to I don't want to if there's anybody that's out there that's still working on a supporting info path, I think that you're you're what you can be paid to do that for those organizations that are holding on to those pieces, you can probably demand a pretty penny. But exactly. Yeah, same goals for SharePoint Designer.  Other side of the coin there was very cool. Well, Heidi, I really appreciate your your time and jumping on this this call, letting people get to know you folks that want to connect with you. What are the best ways to find you out in social? Where are you most active? Twitter or LinkedIn. I'm open for both of those. So, yeah, thank you for having me. Don't be shy. Reach out to Heidi. She's she's friendly. That's right. Yes. Thanks a lot. And we'll see you in Vegas in May. Sounds good. Thanks for having me.


In many ways, what is happening here in Reading and what has happened over the last several decades is kind of a metaphor for what's happening all over this country. And what that is about is we have seen a city which once had thousands of excellent paying jobs lose those jobs because of disastrous trade policies. We have seen companies like Lucent Technologies, Dana Corporation, Ludens Glidden, and Baldwin Hardware are just a few of the major corporations that shut down manufacturing plants in Reading and moved overseas destroying thousands of decent paying jobs. And what happens when good jobs leave poverty increases and what we have seen is since 1990 the poverty rate in Reading has more than doubled going from 19% to 40%. Today in the richest country in the history of the world, Reading and Allentown have two of the most financially troubled school districts in the entire nation. That is unacceptable. That has got to change. Now way back when I first got elected to Congress in 1990, shortly after that I was on the picket lines in opposition to NAFTA because I knew then that these trade agreements were written by corporate America for one sole purpose. And that was to make sure that companies did not have to pay workers in Pennsylvania or in Vermont a living wage. What they wanted to do and what they accomplished was to shut down tens of thousands of manufacturing plants all over this country, move to low wage countries, and then bring their products back here in the United States of America. As a result of these trade agreements, we have lost millions of decent paying jobs that has got to end. A trade policy which protects the interest of the American worker, not just the CEOs of multinational corporations.