When I woke up this morning, I heard a disturbing sound. HCC788 supports Girls of the Finest, a G.I. Joe costume club. Be sure to order their 2017 calendar. Proceeds to benefit the charity K9s for Warriors. Find them on Indiegogo.com. Oh everybody, Hood and Cobra Commander 788 here. It's time for another vintage G.I. Joe toy review. And this week we are looking at the MP and K9. The MP and K9 law and order. This is a figure with a dog companion. As I say, this is a figure with a dog companion. Look here James Brown. Three things. One, you're dead. Two, I have that protective order. And three, how do all these people keep showing up in my videos? I have Sergeant Slaughter appear uninvited. Mrs. Hood and Cobra Commander wanders onto the set all the time. And now I've got James Brown. This is a closed set. I'm in the good place. At last I'm being acknowledged for all my hard work. Looks a lot like a suburban backyard. Well hello there big doggy. Well hello there big human. God? Dog. You're in doggy heaven. Doggy heaven? Why am I here? Did I get mis-routed? I brought you here for a very important purpose. What would that be? You have been advertising the girls of the finest calendar in your videos, which benefit the charity Canines for Warriors. Yes, I have. I was very honored that they asked me to do it. The mission of that charity has a special meaning to you. Now that you mention it, yes it does. But you haven't talked about that special meaning in your videos. Why haven't you? Well I've been awfully busy.   I've been swamped. Nice to see your priorities are in order. Okay, point taken. So what is it you want me to do? I want you to use this video review to talk about why dogs and veterans are important to you. You will be the spokesman for the dogs. You must tell the world of the sacred partnership between dogs and humans. I'd be happy to do that. I probably should have done that before now. And after that you can come back to doggy heaven if you want. Well I'm not a dog and I would imagine doggy heaven includes fire hydrants to peon, legs to hump and raw steak for every meal. Sounds great doesn't it? There is no part of that that appeals to me. I'll see myself out. Suit yourself? Hey have you heard the one about the dyslexic agnostic? Yes. HCC788 presents Law and Order. This is Law, the MP or military police, and Order, his dog, the K9. Law and Order were released in 1987 and were also available in 1988. They were discontinued for the year 1989 and that year you could say they were replaced by Slaughter's Marauder's Mutt and Junkyard. Although there were other figures with animal companions, Law and Order should be considered the successor to the 1984 dog handler Mutt and his dog Junkyard. Between the release of the 1984 Mutt and Junkyard and the 1987 Law and Order there was one other dog in G.I. Joe. The 1985 Snake Eyes came with his wolf companion Timber. There were two other versions of Law in the vintage line. The 1990 version uses the same mold as version one, just different colors. The 1993 version though is a radical change and really strange looking. MP of course stands for military police and the army has combat MPs which have combat zone duties including patrols, reconnaissance and raids. Law and Order are not named after the long running television show. The figure predates the show. Law and Order is a term that usually refers to strict law enforcement. Let's take a look at Law's accessories and let's start with this helmet and he has a white helmet with a black MP stamped on it. This is a good helmet and an appropriate helmet for law and very striking in white. This is a helmet of someone who wants to be seen. Although this helmet is very similar to the helmet that came with the 1985 crankcase, it is not a reissue of that helmet. It has a very similar shape but it has different details. Law's next accessory is his submachine gun, his Uzi. And of course an Uzi is a very famous Israeli submachine gun. This Uzi is a reissue of the Uzi that came with the 1986 Night Spotter low light and I did not like this submachine gun with low light and I still don't love it with law. It's a fair representation of that real world weapon but this is not my favorite Uzi issued in G.I. Joe. The first two versions of Snake Eyes both came with Uzi's and I like both of these Uzi's better than the ones that came with low light and law. The next accessory is Law's Night Stick which is a tibaton or a tanfa which is based on an Okinawan martial arts weapon. This is a very simple accessory. The handle is kind of small and on my action figure it doesn't fit in the hand very well and slips out pretty easily. Next is a leash for the dog and it has a loop that can be put around the figure's wrist and this of course is a soft rubbery material that can bend very nicely. The collar is spiked and it has this buckle and the leash can be removed by slipping this loop past the stopper. Just kind of pull that out and then you can slide it off and slide it off of the dog's neck. There is minimal detail on this but that's alright. It doesn't need a lot of detail. Now we get to the other half of Law and Order, the dog order. Order is a German Shepherd which I think is obvious based on the sculpting and the coloring. It is one solid piece of plastic. It is not articulated. Order is sculpted in an alert position with his ears forward and his tail up. The sculpting on order is really nice. This may be my favorite sculpting of any of the dog companions for G.I. Joe. I just think this is very well done. The accessories that came with Law are almost a one-for-one match with the accessories that came with Mutt and Junkyard. Mutt had this muzzle that Law did not come with but he had a helmet, submachine gun, a baton, a leash and a dog. It's pretty clear that these guys filled the same role. They were given the exact same equipment. Let's look at the articulation on Law. Order did not have any articulation and Law had the articulation that had become standard by 1986, meaning he could turn his head from left to right and look up and down. This one is a little bit loose there. He could swing his arm up at the shoulder about so far and swivel at the shoulder all the way around. He had a hinge at the elbow that allowed him to move at the elbow about 90 degrees. He had a swivel at the bicep that allowed him to swivel his arm all the way around. The figure was held together with a rubber O-ring that looped around the inside of the figure. That allowed him to move at the torso a bit. He could move his legs apart about so far. He could move his leg at the hip about 90 degrees and bend at the knee about 90 degrees. Let's take a look at the sculpt to design and color of Law starting with his head. This head sculpt is kind of special in that it is based on a real person. The model for this head was Kirk Boziggian. Kirk was a Hasbro executive that made a lot of the marketing decisions for GI Joe and was responsible for a lot of the success of the toy line in the early 80s. Mr. Boziggian says it wasn't necessarily an accident that the figure they used his head for was a policeman. He was a very authoritative figure at Hasbro and kind of the policeman of the line. I was fortunate enough to be able to shake Kirk Boziggian's hand at Joe Con and thank him for the work he did on GI Joe. On his chest he has a blue vest over a red undershirt. He has a green grenade, probably a smoke grenade, a couple pockets. He has a black pistol and a holster. He has a silver badge. Looks like a star on a shield. And he has a zipper that's also silver here. That's just some really incredible detail on that vest. The silver badge is more indicative of civilian law enforcement and may be a throwback to Law's days as a police officer in Texas. His arms feature short red sleeves, that red undershirt. His right wrist has a green watch. And on his left bicep he has this MP brassard. The black brassard with white lettering designates Garrison law enforcement duty. And that fits with the description on Law's file card. His waist piece features a black belt with some respectable detail. A silver belt buckle, a silver ring here. Some pouches on either side. And going around to the back we have some other really cool details. Looks like he has handcuffs and what looks like a silver key. His legs are fairly plain, more along the lines of a traditional battle dress uniform with olive drab trousers, large pockets on either thigh. He has some black boots, but these are not traditional army combat boots. They have these really interesting crisscross patterns on them. I think Law and Order pair very well with the 1985 checkpoint alpha. I think the colors go very well together. And I think this battle station fits Law's role on the team. I see Law and Order as guarding the base and enforcing the rules on the base. So you can't do much better than putting Law and Order with checkpoint alpha. And between these guys and Mutt and Junkyard, nothing's gonna get through. Let's look at Law's file card. I have the full card back for Law and Order so we can see the artwork on the front of the card. We have Order looking ferocious. And I think it's worth noting that the face that's painted on here for Law does not look really anything like the head sculpt. So while Mr. Bozigian was the model for the head sculpt on the figure, that doesn't seem to be the case with the portrait on the card. Slipping it around to the other side, we have the cross-sell with other G.I. Joe figures that were available at the time. We have our flag point and we have our file card. His faction is G.I. Joe. We have a portrait of Law and Order taken from the artwork on the front of the card. Codename Law and Order, MP and K9. File name Christopher M. Levine, primary military specialty, military police. Secondary military specialty, intelligence. And I like this. Law can take on the role of an investigator. And he can work counterintelligence missions with Scarlet and Chuckles. Birthplace Houston, Texas, grade E4. Section says Law and Order walked a beat in Houston's fifth award for two years before Law decided there must be a more fulfilling way to be a cop. So he and his K9 order enlisted for the MPs. Houston's fifth award has been described as one of Houston's poorest ghettos. It's a rough neighborhood and probably a very tough assignment for a law enforcement officer. Law is a trained dog handler with a natural affinity for animals. He is also airborne qualified. This bottom section has a quote. It says, MPs are responsible for the security of an installation. That may sound like a cushy job if all you're guarding is a garrison full of clerks, cooks, and accountants. But it's another matter altogether when you're acting as the defensive line for an elite unit like the Joes. The bad guys are going to send in the best they have, and that's not good enough to get past Law and Order. You don't want to mess with him and that dog of his. Chew your leg right off, he will. And after that, you still have to deal with the dog. There are some similarities between Law's file card and Mutt's in that they both imply that the dog handler rather than the dog will bite your leg off. Law and Order made a few appearances in G.I. Joe media. In the cartoon, they only appeared in the 1987 G.I. Joe animated movie. In that movie, Law was portrayed as being Hispanic. He spoke with an accent. And I think that would have made him the first Joe for which English may not have been his first language. It's a matter, man. Let's look sharp, eh, compadres? There is no specific ethnicity noted on the file card, so that was a decision made just for the cartoon. And I don't think that's a bad choice. G.I. Joe was already a pretty diverse group, and that was one of its strengths. And so the more diversity, the better, as far as I'm concerned. Of course, now Donald Trump wants to build a wall around him. In the G.I. Joe comic book, Law and Order first appeared in issue number 60, which was an issue drawn by Todd McFarlane. That was before his comic book career really took off with Spider-Man. Law and Order and some other Joes were part of a weird conspiracy.  That was not one of my favorite issues. Todd McFarlane's art is just not right for G.I. Joe. I feel the G.I. Joe comic book works the best when the artist has a very sharp, realistic style and can capture the amazing detail and realism in the figures and the vehicles. That just is not Todd McFarlane's forte. Law and Order had a few other appearances in Marvel Comics G.I. Joe run, but I would not call them main characters. Taking a look at Law and Order overall, I was really indifferent to this guy as a kid. I think he suffered from being released in 1987, a year that saw a lot of weirdness. There were some great figures in 1987 as well, but it felt like the weirdness was winning out. I just didn't see the need for an MP with bright colors when I was starving for guys in camel. As an adult collector, I appreciate this figure a lot more. I would put Law and Order in the top tier. Look at how many layers there are to this figure and character. The face represents Kirk Boziggian, the marketing guy who was responsible for a lot of the marketing decisions that made G.I. Joe a success in the 1980s, a pretty important guy in the history of G.I. Joe. The figure represents law enforcement, which is not an accident. Kirk was known to be an enforcer at Hasbro. It continues the tradition of giving G.I. Joe figures animal companions. Some of my favorite figures include animals. And finally, it represents the partnership between humans and dogs. And that's one of the reasons why this one is special to me. We started domesticating dogs between 27,000 and 40,000 years ago. All domesticated dogs are descended from a now extinct species of wolf from the Pleistocene epoch. We have archaeological evidence of dogs working with humans and being buried with honor nearly 17,000 years ago. We don't know exactly how it happened, but at some point in our past, a wolf and a human saw each other as allies instead of enemies. From that point on, dogs and humans have been partners in building our societies and cultures. Through artificial selection, those wolves have become every breed of domestic dog we have today. Some are bred for companionship, some are bred for work. Both humans and dogs have benefited from that partnership, but people definitely have the better part of that bargain. Though humans provide domesticated dogs with food and shelter, they don't really have any say in what their role is in this partnership. They have to have total trust in people to make those decisions. Sometimes the trust between dogs and people is broken. Dogs are abused and neglected and exploited for blood sports that only benefit their human masters. Post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD, is a condition that afflicts a lot of soldiers returning home from combat zones. I have seen the effects of PTSD on veterans. I have witnessed it. People with PTSD are at higher risk for suicide. It frequently leads to substance abuse, which only exacerbates the problem. Veterans come home from war with many kinds of injuries, not all of them visible. When the finest asked me to help promote their 2017 Girls of the Finest calendar proceeds to benefit canines for warriors, I was especially honored that they asked me to help benefit that particular charity because it addresses two things that are very important to me. It pairs veterans with PTSD, traumatic brain injury, and other trauma with service dogs. Most of the dogs they place with veterans are rescue dogs. They've rescued something like 400 dogs. By putting neglected dogs together with wounded warriors, they are re-establishing the partnership and trust between dogs and humans. Dogs and people are working together, again, as they have since that first wolf befriended that first human. So consider picking up a Girls of the Finest calendar. You can find them on Indiegogo.com. I'm gonna get one, and if you choose to do that, it won't be the worst thing you've done today. And that was my review of law and order. James Brown, do you approve? I'll take that as a yes dog. I did it. I talked about why the charity is important to me. Are you satisfied? That was very well done. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? Who? Who? Me? Me? I'm a good boy. I'm a good boy. And please feel free to visit Doggy Heaven again very soon. I will not be doing that, but what you should do is like this video on YouTube, subscribe to my YouTube channel, and share this video. That's what keeps this channel going. Like me on Facebook, follow me on Twitter. There's some fun stuff there. Thank you for watching this video. I'll see you next week with another vintage GI Joe toy review. And until then, remember only GI Joe is GI Joe.


How are you going my friend? How are you? What's your name? I'm John. John good to meet you John. Okay so I've got this sign here. It says live auctions, the slave trade proved me wrong. Are you able to prove me wrong on that? Right well you go first of all your sign is a bit confusing because when people see that they immediately think they say slave trade they immediately think human trafficking. Interesting. So are you referring to human trafficking? Are you talking to livestock sales? I'm talking about livestock. Right well then you talk about cows, pigs, chickens. Right so if we stopped all that, yeah. That's not what I'm asking. I'm not asking whether or not we stop it. I'm asking whether you think it's slavery. Well in what way would you say slavery? I mean are you talking about slavery for the animals, slavery for the people involved? I'm talking about are the animals victims of slavery? I wouldn't say so no. Okay and why is that? They're bred for a certain reason whether they be... So they're bred for that purpose therefore it doesn't make it slavery? Not necessarily, it's the way they're treated. I mean they're treated as property. Yeah they're treated as property but then there's different ways of treating them whether you like for instance battery hens. So you're talking about welfare? Yeah. But you can treat your slaves well as well? Well no they're not. Oh would you count them as slaves? I would yes. Why? Because for the same reason that you would count a human being as a slave they are sentient, they value their freedom, they value their family, they value their right to life, they don't want to be exploited and harmed. Okay so for those same reasons I would consider slavery applies in the animal context as well because you agree they have all those values? Yep they have all those values but then also you've got to look at the broader picture. I mean for instance how would you change it? That's a practical issue I'm talking about that in principle is it slavery? In principle yes but also in principle no. It's a grey area. Why is it grey? You look at for instance the livelihoods and also what their purpose is whether they be cows for milking. What was black people's purpose for what when they were enslaved? To pick cotton for them. So if they have a purpose does that not make it slavery? But that is a different matter. If you look at history the first person in America to have black slaves was a black woman. Would you say that was wrong? Yes 100% it doesn't matter who the victim is of slavery. Once they eventually abolished slavery a lot of the slaves or ex slaves went back to the fields for a wage. What has that got to do with slavery in and of itself? I'm saying I'm looking at a whole conflict. I made the correlation you said if they have a purpose it's not slavery. So I said well if a human being has a purpose. I said look at the purpose. What is the purpose of animal slavery? First of all looking at the whole industry behind it. Calling them slaves would say if basically setting the slaves free what would happen to the animals? Would they be able to support themselves? Would they be able to feed themselves, gain a living? Probably not but that's what guardianship is isn't it? Yeah but then what would you do with these animals afterwards? I mean that's another practical issue though. No because it's all part and parcel. No but that doesn't tell me in principle whether it's slavery you're just you're talking about practicality. What you've got to look at is the whole picture not at one small part of the picture. We can talk about what we would do with all the animals and all of that. It just doesn't tell me what I'm asking on this sign but I was trying to keep it on point because there's many different things we could say we need them for protein. What would happen if we stopped animal agriculture? What would happen to all the animals? These are just practical issues not the principal point whether or not they are slaves first. Yeah and did you agree with that? I don't know if you agreed with it. Yes I do agree. The way they're handled the way they're treated as property but then what you've got to look at now is how would we change it? How could we change people's views? So why do these places exist? Why do these industries exist? To serve what purpose? So how would we change it? That's the sun's right in it. This is a dairy industry. Yeah well the thing is there's dairy farms and dairy farms. So why do they exist? Why do dairy farms exist? Milk for people. For who? For us. Yes. So if we stop purchasing these products what happens to these places? They go under. So that's how we change it yeah? Yeah but then what will we do with the livestock that's left over?  Yeah I agree with that but also you're looking at a livelihood livelihoods of people. I mean here's one thing livelihoods of people. Yeah as well but let me explain. You know they had this before you finish. Hold on hold on right? I don't want you to go off on a different topic though. No I'm not going to do that. Yo defining slavery as well how would you define slavery? I would say to take someone's liberty off of them so they don't have any bodily freedom they're considered property you are owned by someone. Yeah yeah but then if you look at websters they also define it as somebody who is conscious of their situation and able to via demonstration or other means. I wouldn't agree. Have you read websters? They're saying that if you're not conscious of being enslaved you can't be enslaved? No that's what they're classing as a slave but you look at for instance the sex trade. Yeah do you think children can be slaves? Yes but what level of awareness is a child at would you say like? From two years old. So before they have that awareness they can't be slaves? They don't understand what it is. Yes they can still be slaves but they don't understand. Okay and animals are probably in the same on the same plane of that as that yeah. Between the ages you know depending on the animal for instance you look at for instance I'm trying to apply that same logic. You look at for instance sheepdogs yeah they've got an understanding of a two to two and a half year old child. Yeah and a pig? That's got about the same. About a three year old child yeah. Yeah and I agree in part that yes the animals are treated like slaves like property. So they are slaves so you agree with this? I agree with that but also but then you've got to look at a bigger picture yes gradually phasing it out but then I take it you're you're a vegan yes? Yes yes which is a life choice for you. Yeah I feel like it's a moral choice yeah when I have the freedom of choice I think feel like it's a moral choice. Yes but then also you've got to look at various industries you've got people who for instance can't get a job or for reasons you know can't work they've got they're living on less than minimum wage on in this country we're talking okay in the what we're getting in from the government okay yeah now being worried about people's livelihood if these industries go under being a vegan isn't really in the picture of what they can afford why not well for instance a friend of mine he lost his job he can't get another job even though he's been applying and he gets 40 pounds a week from the government 40 pounds a week so you do think veganism is expensive to eat plants you look at how much for instance various food stuffs are I agree there are some products that are expensive expensive and when he's not all yeah but when you when you take into the whole picture of all his bills coming out council tax rent okay you know how does he feed himself very sparsely what does he feed himself with has he got enough money for bacon and steak and cheese but he buys the cheapest whatever he can okay so you know the cheapest foods in the supermarket are vegan by default not always rice potatoes beans vegetables fruits pasta yeah you look at the supermarkets but then what he does he goes to a lot of markets where he gets cheaper fruit and veg there and also meat but then also you know it's I would argue that meat is more expensive than rice and potatoes and beans and pasta depends where you shop do you get to get cheaper steak than you are spaghetti well again it depends where you shop I mean you go down to ashrad market on a Sunday you can get we're in a practical debate here about whether or not veganism is practical for the whole population this is kind of off of topic yeah I would argue that it completely is and I would argue that the only reason meat and dairy and eggs are as affordable as they are is because they're heavily subsidized by taxpayers money because if they were the true cost of all the resources and water and land that goes into making these the small amount of calories for all of those crops and workers and transport that would be an astronomical price but the government are subsidizing them with taxpayers money that is true but then if the whole country went vegan even over the next 10 years yeah yeah what would be the problem with that you would loo you have a lot more people who haven't got a livelihood so this is the livelihood argument this is why I wanted to stop you there before I wasn't trying to be rude but I've heard this so many times you know when they abolish slavery what would happen to the slave owners that we're getting them to pick the cotton that was their livelihood yep though they had to pay away do you think that justifies slavery no yeah why does that in the animal context to that but it's okay if you you know I'm trying I'm trying to I'm trying to find I'm trying to see if you're logically consistent so I'm putting it the same context for humans because it's easy for us to understand human slavery because we're human but when we put it in a different species we sort of our logic becomes contradicted yeah it does a bit yes but if you look at it from a heroine how can you but can you correlate an animal like a cow yeah to a human being yes how by all the things that we have in common sentience we we both want to live they suffer they feel pain they value their lives they don't want to die okay so let's say for sake of argument we lose all you know everybody goes vegan yeah then we're going to have worldwide billions of animals we discuss this yeah we're phased out yeah phase out so what are you going to do column no we're going they're going to phase out so you people are going to gradually stop eating animals so they're going to gradually stop breeding them yep but with the animals which you know that's left over they're going to be no use well that that's a pretty bad argument for in moral in a moral sense because someone has no use to you that means we should what what what should we just let them live based on the fact that they're sent in no these people have no use to saying that I mean for instance if we could look after them in sanctuaries what do you know what happens if a cow isn't milked regularly why are they pregnant to begin with now who did that nature do you think the dairy industry relies on nature you know what I mean by you know that well I know what you're saying and I'm jumping one step ahead of you because we forcibly impregnate them the reason they produce 12 times more milk than naturally is because we've selectively bred them to produce that much milk so if we stopped that process that that covers that problem as well yeah yeah I agree with you there that you know in the way that the animals are treated are as products their property they're treated disgustingly I I've seen footage of the way animals in this country and other countries are this is all 2016 and and just before that's pretty recent in the UK this is called land of hope and glory yeah I have seen this and the way I mean for instance you look at this that is horrendous how these animals are treated you care about animal welfare yeah yes I do but not animal use like not animals being slaves you don't like if they were if they were treated well like do you think I would need a lot more convincing because I mean yes you've chosen to be a vegan right yeah I like my Sunday roast yeah I used to as well yeah I yeah I like great well yeah having a bacon sardine do you feel like a part of your culture has been taken from you part of your traditional way of eating and you feel like that's close to your heart and that's might be taken from you if you choose to go vegan partly yeah I'm going to talk about the fact that you like eating meat because this is a what I used to love the taste do you think that sensory pleasure justifies what we do to animals for food sensory pleasure alone like it all depends on how again they're treated and how they're cold I mean is there a right way to kill someone no there isn't but thanks for being honest yeah but then you know you look at say some abattoirs and I have seen footage and I've directed footage for it that some stuff that was taken that wasn't allowed on British TV I agree there are worse ways to kill okay and a good still a good 60 percent of abattoirs in this country will hang for instance a cow upside down and slip the throat yeah they bolt gun them first usually a lot of them don't yeah sometimes the bolt doesn't work but for the most part what isn't what they say and what they do they're going to bleed them out somehow yeah but a lot of them don't you don't you just say they did what would you say is the best way to slaughter someone I've never actually thought about it myself yeah I've honestly I've never thought about it yeah do you think there is a good way of doing it like I think most human way would be something that would destroy the brain instantly I guess there are worse ways to kill someone you could torture and kill them first you could also make sure that it was really quick and fast or you could not kill them which is more ethical well not killing them yeah but then also when we're talking ethics when we go into for instance we now open a whole new can of worms about the death penalty yeah would it be right I mean you've got for instance serial pedophiles yeah do they you know do you lock them away and throw away the key it's interesting how we I know it's interesting we treat animals worse than we do serial pedophiles and murderers I think they should be treated I they're innocent and we murdered them by the billion and serial pedophiles and killers and things like and you know they're they're acting so much more immorally than a pig ever has I've done more wrong in my life than a pig has and they're treated like the worst criminals on earth do you think that's justified no it's not yeah I've got aim for murderers and paedophiles I have no time for and I think the Americans have actually got the best idea which is chemical castration which stops all that's all the feelings for them you're talking about criminals you know like people that have hurt others yeah and but we're going back you know go back to animals like what have they done to deserve what we do to them well us humans do to animals we enslave them we kill them we torture them we take their families we split their families apart yeah but do they realize this I don't know do they you care you care about animal welfare I'm why do you care about animal you're the one who posed the question and now I'm asking you are they aware are they aware of it do they realize it well here I'll ask you a question in response that will help you work it out for yourself you care about animal welfare why why because I don't believe any creature whether it be human animal or have you should be tortured so you believe animals can suffer yeah so you believe they're aware of their suffering yeah so I believe they're aware of it okay but have you read the start any studies that prove that they are aware for instance of be your statement of being taken split up from their families split yo and things like this their behavior would show that so cows pine for their young you've seen that on dairy on a yeah I have yeah okay what do you think that is then also you don't think that's suffering but then you could also turn around and say you know having a family pet is the same it's slavery I would say it depends on the context when you're going by what your last statement yeah they're taken away from their their their family yeah it depends on the context so they're held in a place that they don't know yeah whether it be a dog they're taken out you're talking about dog breeding dog breeding cat I think it's not vegan yeah dog breeding dog breeding and that's not vegan buying dogs isn't vegan but is it wrong to have a family pet okay so it depends on the context I'm going to give you the context where I believe it's vegan I'm asking you the question yes or no do you well it's not a yes or no it's not a yes or no answer because there's different context well let me explain to you okay well as a vegan the most vegan thing to do is to rescue dogs from a shelter that would otherwise otherwise be euthanized okay and you rescue them and you offer them protection because if you let them roam free what happens to them they go to a shelter and they get euthanized yeah so the best option we have is to rescue them and offer them sanctuary okay do I think buying dogs off a breeder who's breeding them to make money and exploiting these dogs and then having them no and do I think in principle domestication of animals should exist no but we're trying the best to deal with the problem that we've created as humans and the best thing we can do is rescue animals from shelters who would otherwise be murdered but then again I'm asking you again that's different to eating a burger having a family pet do you think it is wrong to have a family pet it depends on context and I just gave you those contexts it's a simple yes or no answer do you think it's wrong to rescue an animal from a shelter if that's going about okay that's the vegan way I think it's wrong to buy it so there's two different scenarios you're telling me that say you're married you've got kids yeah you wouldn't go to a shelter and rescue an animal rescue an animal and keep it yes as a family pet yes you would I think that rescuing an animal is the best option they have otherwise they get euthanized what would you rather that I agree with that's the most vegan option we have I've had dogs all my life and all of them have been rescued dogs yeah so but breeding dogs is a different scenario I would say that's immoral and that's exploitation yeah I do agree with you there that is so that's why I'm saying it's two different contexts so it depends on the context yeah and then also you got to look at why people have got a family pet first of all you've got you know people like me who will get a rescue dog you know cats and use it to help teach their children you know responsibility of animals and about you know how not you know how to treat them correctly yeah and not bolt gun them in the skull for a burger it depends if you like burgers so if you're feeding your children burgers at the same time while you're teaching them animal ethics I try to yeah so you're teaching them animal ethics but you're feeding them a minced up animal but then also you've got as you know you can you they get to a certain age where they make their own decisions yeah but you make the moral decisions in the house until they're old enough to yeah yeah do you think it's a moral decision to buy exploited killed animals and and feed feeding to children and then also teaching them to treat animals well you put it in that way that is wrong but then also you've got to look for instance where people saw them eat yeah from a slaughterhouse all you agree all meat comes from a butchered animal from a slaughterhouse yeah somewhere along the line they've been slaughtered somewhere along the line they've been slaughtered against their will would you agree but again yeah you're trying to twist everything I say no I'm not I'm not really twisting your words I'm finding out whether you're logically consistent with your ethical position in two factions yes one I do you're holding two belief systems at the same time that contradict each other I think I enjoy my meat I've been brought up with it so all my life yeah and I haven't had a convincing argument on yes I agree that we have places like this but then I make sure that the meat I get I don't buy meat from supermarkets we already talked about this though you said that animals can't be killed in a good way yeah that it can't be moral I know but again it's also down to my own personal choice like with you yeah you say it's personal do you think yeah whether it's personal whether it be vegan veganism veganism yeah I can't even say the word veganism whether it be vegetarianism whether it be killing animals for food do you think that's a personal thing there's a victim involved you know that yeah obviously yes I do how can that be a personal choice it's a personal choice to buy the meat and eat the meat but there's someone else involved there bro what would you prefer me to do go out to a game reserve and kill my own meat I prefer you just didn't kill animals if it wasn't 100 necessary in any context just one quick question there's I spoke to this woman a little while ago who she calls herself what's referred to as an occasional vegan that doesn't exist well apparently it does if you know it doesn't you google it she doesn't know what she's talking about to be completely honest that's what I said yeah because if you're anti-racism you're always anti-racism you don't have racist free Mondays you don't have veganisms of philosophy on it's an ethical position you either hold it or you don't yeah she can be plant-based some of the time and eat a plant-based diet but she can't hold an ethical belief some of the time you're either anti-abuse or you're not yeah I think that's this is what I said to her but at the end of the day I do still enjoy my meat whether it be sausages whether you know Sunday roast or what have you so so just to clarify you believe it's immoral to and there's no good way of doing this you believe that the animals can be victims of slavery what I said was that and you know you've got to prove that animals actually understand the whole concept of slavery and what they're going through which you know you have you haven't done yeah you agree that animals value their life they want to live they're sentient they feel pain they suffer they they desire then also we go back to you know how they how they're slaughtered whether it be humane or inhumane is there a humane way to kill someone yes you in what context well you look at say for instance the US for instance quite a few states in the US still hold the death penalty yeah but that's a different scenario then they've committed a crime animals haven't looking at it for instance so someone that doesn't want to die who's not a you know mass murdering criminal like an innocent animal is there a humane way to kill an innocent animal that doesn't want to die do they understand the concept of you know if they're going to die on some children don't is that does that then you know exonerate you from murdering children because they don't might not understand no so no but you still haven't answered the question I asked what was your question would they would would the animal for instance a pig you ever tried to kill a pig they try to avoid the knife don't know you're right so they have a desire to live would you let me finish what I was saying thank you are they aware of the whole situation yes or no I would say if they if you're trying to murder an animal they would be aware that there's danger and they'd have to avoid that danger and that they would be fighting for their life yeah 100 yes and the science is on our side with that I don't think you know animals are just walking objects that don't have any feelings or wants or desires or try to avoid anything like of course of course animals desire their life right don't you don't you think the same thing yeah I do try to kill a dog hurt a dog the coward they run in fear they remember you abuse a dog they remember the next day they remember for life okay so they're aware what's the difference between a dog and a pig like you know you abuse a pig they're aware they know you know I think that we view animals so lesser than us that it just justifies this murder and we tell ourselves lies about they do agree with you there they do you know people do say you know they tell lies about they lie to themselves to make themselves feel better you know yeah do you think that's honest or consistent or I'm just trying to forget to the to to where you just at least agree that it's wrong even if you're not changing yeah I've already said that I agree it's wrong okay but again how would you change we talked about this yeah how yeah we go around in circles because you're saying yeah we'd phase it out but how would you start changing people's minds with this conversation right here but most people when they talk talk to you do the same thing yeah they just go out and go and try to find excuses and yeah not everyone most people look at this objectively not most a lot of people look at this objectively they open up their heart they look at it and they go that's wrong I don't need to do it so why do I do it yeah but then give them a week and they're back doing it not necessarily the vegan movement's growing very big very quick there's 12 000s of us marching on Saturday through London shut down the streets I know okay so we're not going away this is an issue of justice that's not going away you know and I see see compassion in your heart when when you when we show you this and I don't think you're a bad person by the way you know I think that you do care about the the welfare of animals I just think there's a lot of contradictions in what you're saying and I'm trying to get to the bottom of it and trying to help you see them as well I know I do agree with a lot of what you're saying I do agree about the inhumane way they're treated the inhumane way they're killed what we can't agree with is that there is a humane way to do this to them I mean well I won't agree with you on that I don't think there's a humane way okay well then we do agree yeah all right I appreciate the conversation mate and you know I just trying to get to the bottom of everything with you just your personal view on you know how you view animals and I do appreciate you sitting here for so long and thanks for being respectful and honest here let me give you a card here this is our land of hope and glory this is what you're watching here I have seen cowspiracies to do with the environment and health as well on the back here's a little challenge you can do on facebook it's free vegan challenge I tried I did try it but I'd lasted about three days well they will help you with what to eat where the good stuff is UK's one of the best places on earth for vegan alternatives you just got to know where to look cheers brother thanks for the conversation mate take care all right yeah you we're out mate thanks brother you're allowed to leave it was nice it was nice chatting I've got to say I've interviewed vegans before and you're interviewing me there yeah yeah no this is fine yeah I know I'm xbbc oh really yeah oh wow and I've interviewed a lot of vegans who break down literally break down under cross questioning yeah I'm impressed you didn't break down oh that's because I feel like veganism is consistent so it's very strong it stands on its own two feet but if people don't know how strong and consistent this ethical principle is they might feel pressured and not know how to answer you yeah but yeah all right well thank you very much thanks brother now it's talking to you


Hello everyone, welcome to today's video. Now, lo and behold, Isaac Butterfield has responded to my shopping center activism event that we did with Animal Rights Activism Sydney. I knew he was going to respond. He's already made multiple videos about me and other vegans. He's got his backup with vegans. He gets a lot of views from these vegan videos, these anti-vegan videos, and I knew he was going to do it. So I've been awaiting that response and here it is. So the video is entitled Criminal Gang Member Turned Vegan Activist. In the thumbnails, it's me behind bars and in quotations saying very stabby. We're going to go through this video point for point now.  There's just no question about it, but let's listen to what he has to say. As far as crazy psycho vegans are concerned, there's two that stand out in my mind. Number one is Vegan Gaines, who carries on like an absolute pork chop with threatened many people over his entire career on the YouTube, and he's great fun to poke fun at. But number two is a certain somebody that lets as a group attack today. This motherfucker's name is Joey Armstrong, but you may know him as Joey Carbstrong. So here he is making videos against vegans to get a group to go and attack them. Now here Isaac, Butterfield's just, you know, going on about the character of Vegan Gaines and the character of me and these character attacks about how we're the worst vegans on earth. What about Isaac Butterfield? What type of comedian is this guy? Now I'm all about, you know, having a bit of fun here and there. It's okay to have a joke, but who does Isaac joke at the expense of? Do you know the children who were brought up in a Catholic household are far less likely to have sex as teenagers in comparison to kids who were not brought up in a Catholic household? Isn't that interesting?  So Isaac Butterfield makes fun of children having sex. When children don't have sex they're actually raped. So I don't know if you think that's funny, Isaac. I don't think that's funny.   Let's continue. He's an Aboriginal guy with a lot of white characteristics, like a job. And I wish that I had something wrong with it, like I was a woman or black. And I cannot stand starving African children. If you don't know much about Australian history, Australia was invaded by Britain and they caused a massive holocaust of the Aboriginal people. They stole a generation of children and tried to breed this generation out with white families. Horrible thing the Aboriginal race went through in Australia.  I don't think there's anything wrong with being black or a woman. And I don't know why you hate starving African children so much. Saddened recently by the death of Stephen Hawking. That was an interesting segue. So was he. So making fun of Stephen Hawking for being disabled, calling him a segue, an interesting segue.  So he's making fun of disabled people here too. But she was a mad lesbian. Like she went down more often than Malaysian airlines. She. Yeah, that deserves a round of applause. 150 people died. Yeah, absolutely. So just encouraging the crowd to applaud a plane crash where 150 people died. I'm just, look, I'm not into getting into the ad hominem attacks and attacking someone's character. But if he's going to come at me for certain things about my character, let's just have a look at Isaac. Is he really one to talk?  No.  Trying to push his shit doctrine about meat is murder, abuse, etc. Basically yelling at people because of their dietary choices.  Well, I wouldn't expect you to care much because you don't seem to care about any other issue or anyone else other than yourself. Ladies and gentlemen, Joey Carbarne Strong. He's got a very sinister past that I think we all need to know about.  It will be dished soon. Trust me. Stick around for this.  Well, you know what, mate? I was the first one to dish the dirt on myself. So if you're going to do what everyone else does and read through articles that the media wrote and, you know, act like Mr. Know-it-all, when really, I was the one who released all of this information. I've been completely transparent about my past and my transformation. So, but firstly, if you don't know who he is, let's get to knowing. What are you going to tell everyone that they don't already know? I want you to ask yourself a question. What's more extreme, aggressive and forceful? Forcibly breeding billions of animals for the sole purpose of forcing a knife into their neck and forcing them to die?  You're forcing your opinion on animals who are being forced into slaughterhouses so you can force a burger down your throat. How quiet would you want us to be if you were the victim?  I think it's a little bit too late at that point. It might be a little bit too late for those animals who are chopped up in the supermarket shelves, but it's not too late for you to stop contributing to the billions of animals who will be bred into existence and thrown into slaughterhouses and chopped up in the future. I don't expect you to understand what it's like to be a victim, Isaac. I don't know if you've ever been victimized yourself or bullied, subjugated, you know, known what it's like to be facing the barrel of a gun about to die like these cows and pigs and chickens or pigs thrown into gas chambers like they do in Australia and across Europe and Britain. I don't expect you to know what that feels like and someone who makes such distasteful jokes about oppressed people, I don't really expect you to understand what it's like to be an oppressed animal. Terry Australia sent us to show the industry practices here. The poor manager at Kohl's here.    I personally think people who abuse children and animals are among the lowest cretins of society.    That's where cheese comes from. And why do they have TVs hanging around their necks? We're showing what happens to dairy cows and calves, bobby calves getting, you know, horrifically tortured and murdered, chopped up into pieces. And instead of addressing the message, this is what Isaac's actually a master of. He either attacks the messenger or he appeals to hypocrisy. So when the message is hard to debate, see, we've got we've got evidence on the screens and anyone can look into the standard practice of the dairy industry and how horrific and cruel and abusive it is. And it's just torturing billions of animals for their milk, basically. It's really unnecessary and just pure slavery. The best he can come up with is, what about those TVs around your neck? And on that point, the TVs actually look quite cheap.  Did you think about them, Joey Carbsong?  So first thing needs to show me where these small Chinese children are that are earning four cents a year to make the TVs in particular that these activists are holding. And secondly, there's a massive difference between a literal Holocaust of trillions of beings who are hacked up on a plate for non vegans and labor to build products that may or may not involve some exploitation, some form of exploitation. But again, these products might be bringing an industry to a country that needs jobs, okay, where people can buy food for their families. Now, if you want to put every single product in the world, there might be varying degrees of, you know, ethical implications there.  I don't know anywhere in the world where humans are being systematically enslaved and cut up into pieces to feed the population. It's just not happening. Of course, I'm against slavery. If there's children being enslaved, that's a bad thing. Okay, we don't want that to happen. But we need to make a distinction between low pay labor to build electronics that brings industry and income into a country where the alternative to that is to be literally enslaved or the alternative to working in an electronics factory is to be out on the streets and starving. There's a distinction between that, okay, and the animal holocaust.  You cannot be a perfect human being, but you can do things which would greatly reduce the suffering and death of billions of animals. You can do that very easily, very easily. A small lifestyle change, but you can't solve all the problems in the world. But this one here, where it's legal to enslave and kill and chop up and murder billions of animals, in Australia, in the UK, across the world, this is completely legal. They have no rights at all. This is by far the most horrific practice human beings are involved with. This is that nothing comes close to this in the Western world, across the world, the amount of brutal torturous deaths we commit against animals every single day. There's no industry that even comes close to even knocking at the door of how horrific this is. Uh, Joey, that's not social distancing, mate. Again, that's not social distancing. Don't worry about the cows and stuff being raped and killed on the screens. Just worry about social distancing when this was actually filmed a month before those social distancing measures were put in place, but Isaac doesn't do any research. Let's just listen to that again. Did you just say you work for the animals? Yes, I work for the animals. I do my activism on behalf of the animals. Animals can't defend themselves, so there needs human beings, obviously, to speak up for them. You don't know what it's like to speak up for a victim. I don't know if you ever have.  You don't know what it's like to be a voiceless animal stuck in a cage about to be stabbed to death, so of course they need us to work for them. Who else is going to? Not you. You work for the animals, mate. Do you listen to yourself when you speak, Joey? Of course I do. Of course I listen to myself when I speak, do you?  Do you listen to yourself when you're making fun of children being raped? The psychological trauma that happens to a child after being abused?  But no, you stand up on stage and make fun of it. Come on, mate. I don't have any communication with anyone, so. You know, the manager here seems a little bit frightened, a little bit taken back. Perhaps, just perhaps, maybe he's heard a little bit about Joey's past. Let's hear what other people have had to say about Joey. Let's read some reports on the old interwebs about Joey Armstrong. So now he's going to go onto the internet to find his information about me, who is actually a real person, who you can have a conversation with any day of the week, mate. You can have a chat with me, we can talk about my life, but you're going to take the media and sensationalized articles as gospel? Mate, I thought you were smarter than that. According to legend reports, Mr. Carbstrong, 32, was caught with a loaded sawn-off shotgun with 29 bullets and a flick knife in September 2011. Well, congratulations, mate. You found something out that I've been completely honest and open about. Yeah, do you know when 2011 was, mate? That's nine years ago, dude.  Now, what about it? I've been completely open that I got caught with a firearm. My latest post on Instagram just yesterday was talking exactly about this. I'm not trying to hide my past, okay?   Everyone has varying degrees of dirt on them. Okay? I've been open about mine. I'll continue to be open about mine. I'm trying to be a better person. What are you trying to do? That is definitely a dude that you want to get mentored from or you want to take advice from. Well, they definitely shouldn't take advice from you, Mr. Child Rape Apologist, making fun of planes being crashed, 150 people dying, thinking being black and being a woman is bad. You know, I wouldn't be taking advice off you either, mate. At least I've turned my life around. I haven't assaulted anyone since I've been a vegan. In fact, I've abstained from violence since I've been a vegan. I've just tried to stop the violence happening to animals.   So I had to defend myself from dangerous people. What was I supposed to do? Now that's a lot different to subjugating, enslaving and murdering innocent animals, isn't it?   Or getting some birds enslaving them and cutting their heads off. Birds who can't defend themselves. Is there, there's a massive moral difference with that, mate. Carb Strong defended himself. He said he fell in with the wrong crowd after leaving school, eventually turning to crime and dealing drugs to support his own habit. Yeah, that's what, yeah, that's what good people do. See, listen to this guy. I don't know what type of privilege you come from, mate, but when you come from where I come from, and I'm not saying I was as underprivileged as many people, don't get me wrong. I'm not, of course I was born in a country of privilege, but there were certain factors in my environment and my lifestyle and my family that, you know, might have traumatized me, led me to drug use, led me to being, you know, involved with these violent gangs and the mentors that I chose weren't, you know, as good a role models as they could have been. And I was led down this path. And that was to do with my environment and my, you know, the things that happened to me.  And this is how addiction works. And you think that's funny, you say it like with the condescending voice.  You don't have any direction. So you're standing there like condescending. Oh yeah. Child rape is funny. Oh yeah.  Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, look at this guy. He's a junkie. Oh yeah. Look at this guy. He was a criminal. Oh, don't take advice from him. You haven't lived a day of suffering in your life, mate. He spent much of his youth using cannabis, meth. Nice one, Joe. And drinking alcohol.  Meth in capitals, you know, meth is obviously not as socially acceptable, but alcohol. I'm going to take you drink alcohol, Isaac.  I did when I was drunk on alcohol. Okay. So now if alcohol is bad, makes you such a bad person, why do you drink it? Alcohol is responsible for killing more people than meth is.   Why don't you speak out about that? No, it's because I smoked meth and, you know, that was the most horrific thing I did. Now, if all these things are true, and I don't know if they are, but the Daily Mail is a pretty reputable source, I think we're going to have to change your name to Junkie Joey. He's making fun of people who are drug addicts, you know, and people who are drug addicts are good people that went down the wrong path, a lot of them, many of them.    I don't really know. Maybe he has lived through suffering.  You're trying to discredit my message by discrediting me. The message is the same. Animals are being tortured and killed by the billions for animal agriculture, products we really can live without. These products are cruel, unnecessary, causing massacre of animals and for what, a burger we can get vegan options for? But no, no, no. I'm a junkie. I'm an ex-criminal, which I've been completely open about and therefore that discredits my message.  I'm not here to give dietary advice. I'm not a dietician. I'm an animal rights activist. I'm trying to explain to people that animals deserve to live without being subjugated and suffered and harmed, okay? And we can definitely get rid of the vast majority of animal harm, like I'm talking by adopting a vegan lifestyle. We can nearly eradicate most harm to animals. Of course there's going to be some harm from civilization. Civilization causes harm to humans and animals. It doesn't mean we have to cause a holocaust on top of the harm civilization already causes. That's not a great nutrition regime. It's just not.  Wouldn't you agree, Joey? A great nutrition regime. Like, look, if you want nutritional advice, just check out the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. They say a vegan diet can be healthy for all stages of the life cycle. Infancy, pregnancy, adulthood. Absolutely fine to have a well-planned, plant-based diet. But veganism is a moral philosophy against the exploitation and cruelty to animals, as far as it's practicable and possible. This is a mother.  So boycott dairy products and meat products are horrible and animal abuse. This, ladies and gentlemen, says it all. Now there is nothing incorrect about what I said there. If you don't know these things about the dairy industry by now, you're living under a rock or you're just being willfully ignorant. The amount of suffering and violence the dairy industry causes cannot be measured against any other injustice. Any other human holocaust, any other human act of cruelty and violence, is dwarfed by magnitude's fold in comparison to what we do to animals in the dairy industry, even as a single issue the dairy industry. We're in history of billions of people being murdered consecutively year after year after year after year after year. Yeah, well, dairy industry Australia wanted us to show what happens in between and not what they show on the... Have you got any people? On several occasions in this video, Joey has stated that he was asked by Dairy Australia to actually come to this supermarket. So I thought I'd hit up Dairy Australia and asked if Joey Carbstrong, sorry, Junkie Joey was on their books. I said, hey guys, good start. I'm currently researching a video about a former gang member allegedly turned a vegan activist, not allegedly. Junkie Joey Carbstrong, recently he stormed a coal store, link below. On several occasions he stated that he received permission from Dairy Australia to attend the store to show the alleged animal cruelty that the dairy industry as a whole. Can you confirm that you invited this little Joey? Unfortunately, I received no response. So in this clip here is contacting Dairy Australia to see if they actually did give me permission to go into that supermarket. Obviously it was said in jest. Obviously they would never give me permission to go into a supermarket to expose their horrific industry. I wish they did get back to you and go, well, he shouldn't be saying that. And I'll be like, well, let's look at the evidence. It's not alleged that their dairy industry is called an abusive. It's absolutely prevalent in the industry. The whole industry is built. The foundations of the industry, the standard practices of the dairy industry are cruel and abusive. There is no debate about it. Perhaps they are scared and I would be scared too because remember milk is murder, milk is rape, milk is sexual assault. Milk is murder.  You cannot hide from that. Dairy cows are held down in Iraq.  That's rape. Milk is everything bad in this world. It's milk. It's milk is violence and torture. And I think there's only one way that we can deal with milk from now on and that is this way. So now he's got this skit here where he's got a milk bottle tied up and he's stabbing it. China is a comedian. He's trying to be funny. He's trying to poke fun at my criminal history and this is what we should do to the dairy industry. If that represented the dairy industry, like if that if this was symbolic of the destruction of the dairy industry, I'd be all for it. But I'm not for stabbing people in the dairy industry. I want them to stop stabbing the dairy cows in the throat though. That would be great. And I think at this point we learned something that we really should all take on board about vegan activists and junkie Joey as well. Because they might talk about all these horrible things that have made up in their own mind. Nothing that I've said about the dairy industry I've made up in my mind. Now you've made up some humane slaughter, dairy is nutritious, fairytale. Actually you didn't make that up.  I was fed the same propaganda about milk being good for your bones and humane farms and high welfare meat and it's nutritious for you.  But I decided to use my brain and look into the dairy industry for myself instead of believing what the industry told me or believing what Isaac tells me about it and actually look into it and actually found out all of these abusive practices were completely standard. Completely standard.   If you do, if you do care about animals, you care about your dog at home, you don't want to see a cow get tortured and killed. Boycott the dairy industry and all products that involve animals. Because they might talk about all these horrible things that have made up in their own mind about meat being murder and meat is murder.  So here goes again with this supremacist attitude he seems to have against everyone including animals. We've done it since the dawn of time. Isaac, mate, do you think that justifies something horrifically cruel and abusive because we've done it since the dawn of time?  Now because we've done that to each other since the dawn of time, does that make it moral to do it today? Should we be mapping our morality by the actions of cavemen? Obviously not. I don't even think he believes that. He just spews nonsense. He probably heard that from someone else. We are an animal. We're at the top of the food chain. Most animals are herbivorous. You're top of the food chain. No, you're not. What food chain? I'll throw you in the ocean with a shark and see how top of the food chain you are.  How is that top of the food chain, mate? Now, we've just cleverly learned how to enslave and kill innocent beings and we can cleverly learn how to enslave and kill each other as well. Now, if we were to use top of the food chain, we're superior argument against each other, that could justify some horrific abuses to children who are vulnerable, to vulnerable populations of people.     Yeah, we've just decided. So we can also decide that it's cruel, unnecessary and violent, can't we? We can also decide that, eh, bro? Why don't you decide that? And we will continue to do so. And I think this is the most important point. I've tried reasoning with vegans. I've tried arguing with them. You haven't tried reasoning with us, Isaac.  Look, this whole video is you attacking my character. I think we just come to this point and say, who gives a shit?  How am I malnourished? I ran 100 kilometers straight in one day. I don't see you doing that, mate. That doesn't sound like the actions of someone who's malnourished. I'm in pretty good shape, mate. I'm 33 years old. Pretty good shape. Been vegan for nearly seven years. Who's malnourished here?   Now, you're going to do it whether we like it or not. I agree. You probably will. But not everyone. Not everyone agrees that it's okay. So those people who do agree that it's wrong are going to stop. So that's the whole idea of animal rights and vegan activism. We're trying to reach out to people who have half a heart, who do care, and people who are willing to like include animals in their circle of compassion, which I don't think you're really there yet, mate.   You really haven't got there yet, mate. But hopefully one day you do.    Only animal abusers consume these products. Okay. Once again, no one cares, Joe. And that's sad that no one cares. That no one cares that they're actually abusing these animals when they purchase these products. I want people to understand that if you do care about animals and you do pay for these products, you're paying for the most horrific abuse and torture on earth. So if you don't want to be an animal abuser, you know, abusing and murdering trillions of animals a year as human beings as a race, then boycott it. Stop doing it. Very easy. Become a vegan. Now you can be your own type of person. Just because you become vegan doesn't mean your character automatically changes. You just get woken up to what's going on to animals. You can be whoever you want to be. You don't have to be me. You don't have to be out there like I am. You can be yourself, but just stop paying for animals to be stabbed in the throat. This isn't food. This is a murdered animal. These are murdered birds. Disgusting. Look at that.   They poo on people.  Like you really don't care about animals at all. So you tried reasoning with vegans. I've tried reasoning with them. You can't be reasoned with, dude.         Fruits and vegetables much better. Soy milk, rice milk, almond milk. Oh, potatoes, soy milk, rice milk, oat milk.   I don't know.    It was uncomfortable. I was quite nervous, but it made media and I got people thinking or talking about the animal cruelty in the dairy industry.  And, you know, well, I just want people to choose the alternatives to the horrific abuse and cruelty in the dairy meat and egg industries easily in the supermarket. They can make that choice. What's the problem with that? Yeah, it does make me feel good when people go vegan and lots of people have gone vegan from my work. Some people are turned off, but they get the message though. If you haven't got that message, Isaac, you're thinking this through. Have you thought this message through what we're trying to say? What?   You've been so heavily conditioned to see these animals as worthless as nothing as products. I just don't see you ever changing, but that doesn't mean everyone's going to be like you, dude. That doesn't mean everyone's going to be like you. I changed my entire life around. You seem to use my criminal history against me. And we're going to talk about that in the next video I make about Isaac, but you're just trying to attack the character of vegans instead of really understanding the message we're trying to promote. And I know so many of your fans are going to come here and attack me because you've made it socially acceptable to ridicule vegans.  Shoot the messenger all you like. You can't attack the message.  You get so many views from putting vegans down for trying to do the right thing. I don't expect you to change again. And the next video I'm going to address my criminal history and his blatant hypocrisy about the media, and we're going to talk that through as well.  And meat is murder, obviously.


Managers, put your team before yourself to gain rapid promotion. This may sound a little counter-intuitive, yet your performance is judged on your team's performance. Those managers who consistently get promoted put their teams before themselves because it is a very effective way to progress your management career quickly. Putting others before yourself is a brilliant way to inspire team members to reach for new heights. Secondly, to effortlessly gain respect and admiration from your team. And third, to have team members literally falling over themselves to help you achieve team goals. Great people managers know using timeless group and social rules, like reciprocity, increases team performance far more than using the power of their position. Employees will work far harder and far better when they want to, compared to being told to or forced to through fear. Team performance matters a lot to get on the fast track for promotion. Managers and leaders create the most value through their teams. The bigger your positive impact on team performance, the faster your promotion. Put your team before yourself to create the biggest positive impact you can and gain rapid promotion in the process. Effective managers that put their team before themselves are not looking to win popularity points, nor are they insecure and looking for an ego boost, nor are they soft on problem individuals, nor the problems the team faces. Putting the team before yourself is the most effective way of increasing team performance that I've seen employed after working in many world-class companies. Those that incorporate a team-first approach get promoted faster than those that don't. So let's talk more about how to put the team before yourself to be a very effective manager and leader. I'm covering firstly your attitudes communicated to all. Secondly, using power well puts you on the fast track for promotion. Third, focus on helping your team before pleasing your boss. And fourth, five ways to leverage your time. Put your team first and gain rapid promotion. When your team is outperforming their peers, it is a very compelling decision for bosses to add more people to your team. You gain rapid promotion because your team members and the team overall performs at a higher level than their peers. Use all the practical tips shared so you can start putting these concepts into practice quickly and get the benefits as quickly as possible. My name is Jess Coles, and if you're new here in Hanstock Training Shares, people management expertise, resources and courses teaching you how to build higher performing teams. I've included links to additional videos and resources in the description below, as well as the video timestamps, so do take a look at these. And if you like this video, please give it a thumbs up and subscribe. Cultivating a positive attitude towards your team is so important as a manager or leader to increase teams' performance. Your success as a manager or leader is dependent on those that work for you.  How many teams do you know that don't like coming to work, fear their boss and still deliver amazing results? I haven't come across any.  As a leader, you are inescapably in the spotlight. Each team member is watching you, judging how you behave, the decisions you make and the actions you take and working out how this will impact them. We have all been practising these observation skills since birth. Whether consciously or unconsciously, we all know which leaders we trust and which ones we really don't. We know which leaders care about their staff and which ones don't. We know which ones are interested in us as individuals and which ones see us as a means to an end, or that managing is a necessary evil of their role. Reciprocity is an incredibly powerful group behaviour to tap into. The more time and effort you put into helping your team, supporting your team, training and coaching your team, removing problems that they're experiencing, guiding them and coordinating their activities, the more you'll be admired, trusted, appreciated and valued for what you bring to each of your team members. They all feel obliged to give back through working harder, learning to work better and being more team focused.  Next, we're going to talk about power. Using PowerWell puts you on the fast track for promotion. When you're asked to lead others, you are being given power. The power that comes with a job title and a position within an organisation.  Human culture is littered with stories. The villains of these stories use their power to serve themselves. They use power to gain more power, to gain personal wealth, to keep others down and to defend their privileged positions. The heroes of these stories use their powers to help others, to defend others, to make others' lives easier and better. Heroes don't use their power for personal gain. The heroes are remembered, respected, admired and celebrated. The villains really are. It takes a lot of courage to use power to put others first in our very competitive workplaces. You know, a very real fear is, if I help those around me to get ahead, to get better and to deliver more, won't it be harder for me to get ahead personally? In nearly all cases, a team outperforms a group of individuals. Use your power to help solve problems impacting the team. Protect the team from unhelpful requests, power plays and politics with your influence. Work to get the right resources in place for your team members to do a great job. Use your power to build a positive, enjoyable and results-focused environment to work in. Actively use your power to help everyone in the team be better. Putting your team before yourself in how you use your power is a brilliant way to encourage all your team members to follow your example. A key ingredient to create high-performing teams. The better your team performs, the faster you are promoted. Third, focus on helping your team before pleasing your boss. Your relationship with your boss is the most important relationship you have at work in terms of your personal and professional success and gaining rapid promotion. You're actively worked to make your relationship with your boss as positive as possible. Pleasing your boss is an important part of building a positive relationship and getting promoted. It is very easy to get sucked into focusing more time looking upwards and pleasing your boss rather than looking downwards to your team to increase their wellbeing and performance. If your team is not performing, is unhappy, has high staff attrition, is causing problems that impact into the wider business, et cetera, how pleased is your boss gonna be with you? Not very. Poor team performance will cause them a lot more headaches and undo all the good work you've put in to pleasing your boss. Focus on helping your team before pleasing your boss. It both are super important to gain rapid promotion. Great team performance will please your boss as well as a lot of the other managers in the business that have a say in your promotion. Keeping your boss happy and keeping your team happy and performing is a careful balancing act. Focus on helping your team before pleasing your boss. Work hard on both to get rapid promotion. Now I'm covering five ways to leverage your time, put your team first and gain rapid promotion. You only have so much time available to you, even if you work really long days. The more you can use your time to increase the productivity and performance of your team, the more value your efforts will create as a manager. Creating a 5% productivity game across the team is a lot more valuable than a 10% personal gain in productivity. The team will be a lot closer to reaching the goals and certainly creating a lot more value for the business. A very good reason to put your team before yourself in where you focus your time. Five key ways for any manager to leverage their time and gain rapid promotion as a result are, firstly set clear direction and goals for the team and each person within the team. Clear direction within a team creates a compounding effect with the effort put in by each team member. i.e. two plus two equals five in many cases. Clear direction massively reduces wasted effort as well. Also work within your team to plan out how the goals agreed are going to be reached. A clear path also saves the team a lot of time. Secondly, work on creating a team environment where team members trust each other, work to support and help each other, communicate openly and honestly. You're in short, work as a team and share success. And lead by example, praise and encourage positive behaviors, decisions and actions in the team and stop negative behaviors, decisions and actions quickly to encourage the right team environment. Third, actively look for and remove as many problems as possible that negatively impact the team. Think people, processes and systems. People problems, from communication, relationships, expectation management, behaviors, et cetera are the trickiest. Be diplomatic and handle the conflict quickly and neutrally. Fourth, get comfortable with saying no to lower value work and tasks so that you can focus your team on the most important tasks, activities and projects for business success. This will significantly improve your team's performance and you'll get rapid promotion much easier. Fifth, invest your time in looking for automation opportunities across the team. Hear from small Excel hacks through to software systems to replace repetitive tasks. Actively looking for opportunities to help your team become more productive is a great way of putting your team before yourself and significantly improves team performance. This is a great way to increase the value you add to the business and get rapid promotion. So in summary, as a manager put your team before yourself and you'll be serving your best interests alongside those of the team in the business, a true win, win, win. Leaders and managers add the most value to a business through improving the performance of their teams. Actively looking for ways to help your team is a great way to leverage your time and create greater amounts of value for the business. The more value you create, the faster you get promoted. To put your team before yourself, we have covered.  Secondly, using power well puts you on the fast track for promotion for all the right reasons. Third, focus on helping your team before pleasing your boss. Fourth, five ways to leverage your time. Put your team first and gain rapid promotion. If you have any questions about managers, put your team before yourself and gain rapid promotion. Please leave them in the comment section below and I'll get back to you. Thanks very much for watching and I look forward to speaking to you again soon.