If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of We Do The Takeover, for the first 52 minutes of great conversations, we start off, Sal dropped some amazing conversations. Right, great, right. We have Amazon's electric dreams and the future of TV. You've got to watch that show on Amazon. Sal compares it to Black Mirror. It was awesome. I mean, that's got big shoes to fill. Why we're on the Amazon topic, we get over the challenge, the changing world of retail, right?  Doors are dying everywhere. In the butt. Right, right. It's like a graveyard out there, right? And then we get into the tooth-mounted tracker and wearables. Man, the future is here, you guys. Oh my God, they're in our teeth. Justin, did you get the tooth trackers? I did. I'm way above you guys. Did you get those with the new Pro-Li ones? I'm almost like, you know, an android at this point. That was the upgrade, right? Yeah. And then we get into the new therapies for depression and PTSD. That's right, nutritional therapies and the magic mushrooms. You talked a little bit about the future degrees too, right? Now that it was psychology that didn't exist. Psychiatry, yeah. Adding some nutrition in the mix. About freaking time, right? And then you brought up some Corey Feldman. We're still talking about this guy. He got it. He's going after the freaking Hollywood grossness. Yeah.  And I was excited about this one. Sal and I, when we were down with Amanda Bucci, she dropped the Uber for dogs. I think it's called Wags. Is that what it was, Doug? Wags is the app where I can have someone come walk my bulldog. Just as long as they don't walk them away. You never see them again. That's all. That's all. Little caution there. I think you'd be okay. We get into that for a little bit. And then we wrap it up with my fixer uppers, the type of women that I used to date. Oh, that's what it is. And why I was drawn to them. So if you want to listen to the first 52 minutes of debacle. He likes to invest in a fixer upper, fix it up and then put it on the market for more value. That's it. Yeah, we should build it up for more value. What am I going to do? I'm going to go back to all these motherfuckers. You're the house flipper. They get all dimes and great wives and kids now. Like, hey, man, you owe me some for me. Like that was training ground with me here, buddy. That's it. Better luck, Chuck. Right, right. And then we get into the questions. The first question that we get into is, what's the quickest way to lose belly fat? Arriba, arriba! I want it off of me now! That's a throwback to a little cartoon. We had... We brought these up though because a lot of people ask, you know, sometimes we go really deep into the weeds, right? We get crazy with some of the topics. You go dipping the weeds, sir.  So we address some good points in that one. That's a really good topic. Then we move over into what is the healthiest way to bulk? What type of carbs should you consume?  Right. Sal and I give some of our old school strategies that we do not recommend now for you. Then we get into a really long question for Doug. Doug loves when we have long questions for him to type out for us. A body positive, intuitive eating advocate argued that it is not important that people know portion size or know how certain foods affect the body and mind. What are our thoughts on the extreme body positive advocates? Too long. Yeah, right? Sum it up. No, but I think this is a great topic, right? Who seemed to encourage body acceptance with no regard to healthy habits? How do you see the health education fitting into intuitive eating? Good debate right here, right? Good debate. Great conversation. Make sure you listen to that one. Then the final question we wrap up. I'm an assistant fitness director at my club and I'm very passionate about what I do. My managers, on the other hand, aren't. My fitness director is very egotistical, very common by the way, and only enjoys her title. My GM is unmotivated and isn't willing to do anything to improve our club. Our numbers are horrible and my team hates it here. Sounds like the bad news bears. What steps can we take to change our numbers, staff attitude, and club future? Do you read the entire question, Sal? I feel like you sum it up. No, I usually sum it up. He sums it up. It's okay. It's different. No, it's a new thing. It's good. It's a new thing. It's an Adam thing. It's a backup today. Yeah. It's just in case. Not bad off the cuff. It's like hitting left-handed, you know? Oh, hey. You forgot to mention. Which I happen to be. Which you do, so it makes sense. You forgot to mention, Adam.  So when you talk about, before we talk about what they get free this month, tell us what each program is for, Sal. Yes. Well, okay. So let's talk about the individual programs very quickly. You want to build maximum muscle and size and strength, maps, anabolic. If you want to train like a functional athlete, that's map performance. If you are a stage presentation athlete, bodybuilder, physique competitor, bikini competitor, or you want to shape and sculpt your body in specific and symmetrical ways, that's maps aesthetic. If you like to work out at home without equipment or work out on the go, like you travel quite a bit, that's maps anywhere. Or finally, if you want to correct muscle imbalances or help your body deal with pain, that's maps prime and maps prime pro. Now we do package a lot of these together in bundles. Now bundles are two or more maps programs combined, usually with a mod. So we'll add an extra element to it to help you out. But also, we'll discount the price like 20 to 30% off on top of it. So you get a massive discount by combining things in bundles. And bundles are designed for specific goals. Well, this is the final day to take advantage of our free giveaway and roll in any of our bundles and you get forum access to free. That's our Mind Pump Private Forum, easily our most valuable thing that we have to offer. Where there's lots of trainers on there, lots of fitness enthusiasts, Adam, Justin, and myself, we're on a pretty regular basis, daily basis, answering questions and helping people out. You get that access for free if you enroll in any bundle after today. This promotion will end and will probably not come back for a very, very long time. Final day! To enroll in any of these bundles and take advantage of this forum access, including the Super Bundle, which is a year of exercise programming. Yeah, it's a money back guarantee. What are you waiting for? Yeah, you know, we don't mention that that often. You could try any of our programs for 30 days and if it doesn't blow your mind, just take it back. We'll refund you 100%, no problem. This is the final day again. To get any of these programs or to get more information, go to mindpumpmedia.com. I had a good idea. I wanted to steal.  Like, is there somebody has this have been done yet? Well, good job now, Justin. You just told everybody. We didn't start yet. We're recording right now. I bet you somebody's got the bulking Bible. That's too easy, right? I know. Well, that's what I said. I've never seen it, but I'm sure it exists. So years ago, I read a book. Fuck, what was the name? Oh, it was a diet. And it was based off of the Bible. So it was like the...  It was the... It was like... You know, it's all false in the sky. I forgot what it was called. It was like the godly diet or something like that. And the author, you know, he's a theologian. Is that the right way to say it? Sure. He studied, you know, Christianity was a super Christian. And this is... I read this book like eight years ago. And in this book, he's like all the answers to what you need to do for your body are in this, you know, super powerful book called the Bible. Now, I read this because I thought it was brilliant because there's enough people who are so dogmatic that they'll buy that because they'll be like, oh, that's what I need to do. This is the only place I live. Yeah, exactly. Great. So if we did a bulking Bible and we were like, we could open it up and be like, you know, Jesus gave us... Dowshout. Oh, God. Dowshout by way protein. Playing with fire over there. I know, I know.  You know what I mean? When I'm dead, I'll be at the gates and I'll be locked. Like, what's going on? Jesus will come out and be like, all right, Sal. Yeah. Here's all the good things you did. You did a lot of good stuff. You misrepresented me. Yeah. But then you sold this book. Yeah. Bible... You profiteering off me. Biblical bulking. What is this all about? Yeah. So you guys really enjoyed Black Mirror, right? Yeah, it's great. You guys were like... It's creepy as hell and it's thought-provoking and it's scary. It's like the modern-day Twilight Zone. I love the Twilight Zone as a kid. Yeah. That kind of writing where you're watching a show or a movie and you're trying to figure out what's going on and it's compelling and you're guessing and guessing and you get fucked at the end. Like at the very end, you're just like... Wrong. Totally wrong. It challenges you though. That's what I love about it. It's so wrong.  You know what I mean? For like hours afterwards, you're like, what? You're like, why? You guys were like Game Night. I just went and saw that in theater. That was that good? Yeah, yeah. Very similar as that. Oh, so I'm about to tell you guys. I found another Black Mirror-type show. Esk. Brand new. Brand new Amazon Prime. So it's fucking... I watched the first episode only. So I don't know about the rest of them. And it's like Black Mirror. It's a bunch of different episodes. So two things. First off, awesome show. I watched the first episode and it twisted twice. So at the end, I was like, oh no, that's what's going on. And then again, I was wrong again.  What's it called? You gotta give me a title. Electric Dreams. Okay. Electric Dreams. So it's all about... It's like Black Mirror. It's like using technology to tell stories or the twists and stuff. So the episode I watched in the beginning was this woman who... She's a police officer in the future. They have flying cars, this, that, and the other. And her girlfriend works for this company that makes this device that you put on your temple. And it brings you to another world. So you can kind of help forget your problems for a little bit. So she does that and then she awakens. And she's like... She all of a sudden is this dude in this other world. Can't figure anything out. It's really disturbing. And so she goes back and forth between these worlds. And the whole time you're like... Wait a minute. Which one is... Really her? Which one, yeah. Is she the guy or she... You will not figure it out.  Totally blew me away. Wow. So good. But you know what's cool about this is... How did you find it? Who recommended this to you? I was on... So I've been going on... So I canceled my dish network and all... You're about to cancel ours.  Unless you watch live sports, right? That's the... Well, even then though, last time I was watching the Warriors game and there's a... NBC or I mean, excuse me, a Bay Area sports app that I could stream my... If I just want to watch... Because that's all I need the sports for. I don't need to watch every other team. So what's the best way to approach this? Because you need high speed internet, right? So like... Is it... This still like Comcast is like your best option. There's like AT&T. There's like... Cancel all of them. Google like... Cancel all of them. Wire, does that exist? Yeah. Really, really good internet. Whatever that is. Yeah. And then just get... Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, Comcast. I do, I do Comcast. Right, okay. Yeah, and then I have... I just have Hulu, Amazon Prime, Netflix and YouTube. And to be honest with you... It's the move. It's everything. What does it come out? Okay, so... But here's the thing, I watch a lot of Showtime too. Okay, so that makes stuff... Shout out to the fucking... Oh yeah. Billions started again. Dude, yeah. I haven't watched it yet. I haven't either. I won't say it. All right, Tivo right now. That and Silicon Valley just started again too. Oh, did that? Yes. Oh good, because I love both those shows. So, here's my problem. I've got an HBO show, multiple HBO shows. I've got multiple Showtime shows. I watch sports. And then you figure the internet price for high-speed internet is 50 to 60 bucks minimum a month. So, am I really going to save that much money if I... Because now you're going to get... Absolutely. HBO Go has an app. You've got to pay to subscribe to that, right? Like 30 or 50 bucks a month. So, like 30 something, I think, a month for HBO... If you get all of that, I could see that it might equal out the same. It's going to add up. But that's... Think about it this way. You know, so I could see the value if you find, like, HBO and Showtime and live sports. Because as of right now, there really isn't an answer to some of that stuff, right? But think about it this way. That's the only thing keeping you there. The second, like, you have an option, you're gone.  Well, what's only really hanging me, because I could... What I know we could do and save money. And Katrina would do this. I wouldn't do this. This is where companies get people like me. Is I would sign up for those things and just pay for the whole year and keep paying. And even though I'm not watching a show on it, but she'll be smart. She'll cancel it after a season. So if we're watching HBO and we're streaming HBO, which you can do, and I'm paying top dollar, 30-some bucks. Just watch it for that season. Yeah, watch it for that season, then boom, cut it off, and then we're doing Showtime. And then... You know where I think it's heading? I think it's gonna... And eventually someone did this. All a cart, right? Like, every show is all a cart.  Well, look how Apple's geared it. Apple's geared it that way. It's like iTunes. I watch... I pay... Bro, that get me like crazy. I have to check. I have to check. I need to look and see what I'm up to a month. But there's a lot of shows that I just... $2.99... Oh, yeah, I do that on Amazon. Like, I went back and watched all the modern family, and you can watch that free on regular television, but because I didn't catch any of it and I'm going back and I'm streaming all of it. It's like $2.99 a hit every single time. Exactly.  Dude, it's gonna be like that, because I'm watching... I watch Electric Dreams and I'm like, this is directly competing with Black Mirror for Netflix. Yeah.  Hulu is gonna start doing their own thing. YouTube is creating their own content. It's gonna be a war, which is great for the consumer, because all that's gonna do is increase the quality of the writing. It's gonna bring in all the best actors. And the pricing is just gonna keep going down as they continue to fight. It's just the way it is. It's still really weird to see like major motion picture actors in like all these streaming shows now. But it makes so much sense because like it's so cinematic. It's so epic. A lot of these shows, it's just a really long form movie. Like you get it in pieces now. And the writing, this is where you're gonna see people win is how good is their writing gonna be, right? Like Netflix so far has put out some incredible series that are just for Netflix with really, really good writing. Obviously that's what's kept HBO and Showtime alive. Is there good writing? Amazon now is having great writing. Like this is gonna be awesome. This is gonna be so great. Anyway, you guys need to watch Electric Dreams.  It's so good.  You just have no choice but to submit to them. I was reading this article on this company called Pickleball Paddler. And it's a, this guy created this like online sports equipment and it's for like retirees. And Pickleball Paddles are some sport that I've never even seen before. It's like shuffleboard, right? It's like kind of like one of those sports, right? The bunch of old people do, right? Because it's just in your backyard. Yeah, just take a lot of mobility to do it. But there's I guess a huge need for these retirees to be able to buy these things. Well, this guy builds up this company to make like $300,000. And I think it's in its first or second year and he's making 300K. Well, then he decides to go on Amazon. Well, in Amazon, he turns around and he's making $33 million a year off Amazon. But here's the crazy part though. He makes $1 million out of the $33 million. Like the rest is eaten up in what Amazon makes off of it. I mean, he's still making three times more than he was. That's my point. So it's like, what a crazy situation to be in for a entrepreneur or a business owner like this. You just made 300K your first year. You're starting, you know, which is good. First couple of years of business. If you're doing that kind of revenue, you've obviously proven the model that there's money to be made here. And you have this opportunity. You start working with Amazon. Then all of a sudden Amazon cranks you up to a $33 million company a year, but you're only making $1 million out of that. What I would do with that, you know what you do with that situation is you go in, you use Amazon so that you can get way more exposure. You make more money. In the meantime, you build a massive email list, an empire on your own. When you figure you can generate more than a million dollars, pull the plug, or at least set yourself up because here's the scary part. When you're doing that with Amazon, it takes them one or two moves to take you off their list or not show up in the searches. Business is gone. Well, that's what the scary part would be, right? Is that, you know, if Amazon all of a sudden decided, like, eh, no, you're not going to cut it. We're going to double your fee or sorry or whatever they want. We're not going to show you up on the top of the search. Right. Just imagine all the leverage that they have on these businesses. And you basically are kind of forced to do it. It's like, well, do I want to turn this thing into a $33 million company? In the past, here's a thing.  But in the past, you know, you were at the whim of retailers also. So like if you made a supplement, you know, in the 80s or 90s, let's say in the 90s, you make a good supplement and then GNC gets their hands on it. Now sales go through the roof. Well, if GNC says we don't want to carry your supplement anymore, you're fucked. So I think, you know, the smart thing to do with this type of technology is take advantage of it but set yourself up in case it's the fan. Yeah, it literally is the virtual version of, you know, like showing it off in the store. Like what kind of space and like visibility you're going to get and, you know, all that stuff. Well, it kind of feels like a race to the bottom a little bit to me. You know what I'm saying? Where it's just like, it's just cut price, cut price, cut price. Everybody is on this race of how cheap can you give away this stuff. And it doesn't even make sense anymore to have a company that you're looking for other forms of shipping, you know, other than Amazon. Right. Amazon really is the best right now option. I can't.  That's going to make shipping. So that'll be the first place. I think it will get dominated by that kind of technology. Yeah. We'll be shipping.  You know, I went there. Dude, they were a monster.  Oh, did you go? Yeah.  And it was just kind of depressing.  That was an untouchable brand, not like 20 years ago. Yeah. It's the experience too, because like a lot of toy stores have been absorbed by, I guess this financial company that kind of came in and then it just kind of destroyed what it was. But yeah, like that whole experience, I think it'll be resurrected.  Yeah. Because it's like, that's such a part. That's a connection there that, you know, kids really, I mean, it benefits the kids and the parents too at the same time. You make a great point. I think in order to compete, you're going to have to make a retail space that's an experience.  I could see if I was somebody trying to compete with that, I would take like the 20 to 30 top toys sold in the country, whatever those are, and you provide that, but then you also provide the ability to test drive it, right?  And then he's like cut off from it. Like so you got to buy it to take it home. Like a four wheel outside and a little course or something. Right. Right. Things like that.  Like I'll go to the store. I started doing that. I don't know if you guys do this, but we'll go to the store. Okay. So like we went to, what's that place? What's that? Outdoor store? Oh yeah. Not Bass Pro. No, not Bass Pro, but anyway, it was one of those. One of those. And we went there to get my kids hiking shoes and camel backs because we're going to do a bunch of R.E.I. No. Yes, R.E.I. Okay. So I'm like, Oh, this is a good one. Try these on son. He tries them on. I'm like, let's look at the price. Oh, that's, you know, $85. Let me just look that up on Amazon. Yeah. Cool. What size do you need? Boom. Just ordered. Let's go try something else. Oh, camel back. This is the one you like. Oh, great. How much is it? $100 here? Let me look it up on Amazon. Oh, cool. No. $97. Boom. I left the store with one item, but I ended up buying two ships for free and it's at my house in the two days. And I ordered it and I thought to So why wouldn't Amazon create like just the store front? Totally. You know. Totally. And so you do that.  They have, they, they provide so much. Could you imagine the size of that store what that would have to be? I know. It wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. Welcome to Amazon.   They don't give these little, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever they are, they're making. It's like they'll have a small, and I think Apple's a great example of this. So I think a lot of stores will sort of look like the Apple store. It's a showroom. It's a showroom, yeah. It's a showroom, yeah. It's a showroom for you to come, touch it, feel it, play with it a little bit and then you just, you get on your phone and you really order it. You don't really carry inventory. You just want to understand the product and feel your way through it. To that point, maybe even work with Amazon. Maybe you create your own storefront and it's small. That would be really smart. Because then you save money on rent, right? So instead of having a 20,000 square foot facility, it's 5,000 square feet because it's just a showroom. You show up. Just make it look nice. Yeah, see what you like and then just order it on Amazon right here. And because you're ordering it here today, we're going to give you an extra 5% off or something like that. There's a lot of ideas I could see that they're going to have to try to work with because I think they're going to have to work at the storefront. Well, it's disrupted the whole thing. I mean, the whole retail market is, I mean, they really have to scramble to figure this out because it's a dying breed. Well, bro, look at our business, right?  You had to ship it. It wasn't instant. So look how much it's destroyed. Like does anybody order work out DVDs anymore? Probably not. Right? It's changed a lot. So anyway, talking about new technology, did you guys see that researchers are coming up with tooth-mounted trackers? Yes, dude. I was just going to, that was the next thing I was going to bring up. Were you going to bring up the same thing? Yes, dude. Tooth-mounted trackers. You stick a sensor on your tooth and it tracks the food for you, bro. Real soon here, it's going to be... Oh, I speculated like I was trying to, when I was going through and nobody's really invented something that will automatically track food or intake or water. Whatever. Dude, that's not automated. I am so excited about it. Crazy. And I know there's a lot of camps on this like when you talk about unplugged and the technology going that direction. So with that, we're becoming so detached. But these types of tools, what I remember, what Fitbit... Dude, it's all about sensors. So I can't, I truly believe that we would take a huge chunk, I really believe this out of obesity by just the ability for people to mindlessly be able to eat the same way they do and stuff, but then to be told and aware of it right away. Yes.  Right.  It tells you right away. Right. Your proteins, fats, carbs, it'll tell you. And go like, okay, I need to at least go move. Do they explain how this works? It's just a sensor. It sounds like magic. It's just a sensor. So the one that they've already created, obviously it hasn't, they haven't created one that can detect everything yet, but the one that they have created... Does pizza? No. It's the pizza tracker. It tracked, they tested it to track sugar and alcohol, excuse me, water and alcohol. So people were eating or drinking things and then to see if it would accurately measure 60%, 70% water, whatever. And it worked. So I mean, we're not there yet.  But it's coming. That's progress though. That's crazy. Dude, think about it.  I promise. Yeah. Although, God, imagine if someone got a hold of that big data. They're not going to control you. Exactly. Everybody got that data. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like if you're like a communist country, you're like, we need to ration some of the food I always tell trainers, like, I mean, if you're still stuck doing just the brick and mortar and you're not thinking about the future of where our space is going to be, it's going to flip on its head. Of course. We talk about, why is that, why is that any different? Like, why am I going to go drive to some gym where I have to see my trainer at a specific time that I can only train with him when I can have that same accountability from him with all these tools and sensors. It's getting to the point where it's like, it's tough to create a lot of value at one-on-one meeting and convince you to come in and see me when you're going to have access to all these tools because if I had that, if I had something like that, oh my God, you know how easy it is to coach clients. Yeah.  Right. You get a report every day. Oh, looks like yesterday. And then now it's, the coaching more, it looks more like this. Like they get the report, you're there as somebody to just answer questions. Like, Adam, oh, I did this. Was that the right thing to do? Or should I have done that? And it's like, you have your panel, right?  Right.  It's super easy, streamlined, it's preventative, like you're going to avoid the hospital, everybody's health insurance going to go down, all that stuff. Yeah, I could, I can see tremendous value at the same time. Yeah. So that value's always going to go down.  You know what I'm saying? It's like, what's 150 dollars? But we know the psychological piece is such a big part. Right, and the human interaction, right? Like, I mean, I'm not saying, I think that's important that you said that, that when I say this, I'm not telling trainers like, you're all your jobs are done in five minutes. It's just, yeah, it's going to radically change my business to the way we're going to do business in the next five to 10 years in health and fitness space. And you got to be paying attention to tools like this because it's going to change the game.   Like it's, I think part of the reason why Fitbit is dying is just because everybody's got a tool like that now. I think the next, I think the next level even beyond that is when you have a sensor that obviously senses what you eat, what you drink, but also is able to detect activity and is able to connect how your body's responding to those foods, which we already know that there's like glucose. Yeah. Like measuring your insulin or hey, it looks like when you eat this particular food, your bowel movements end up becoming like this or your fatigue was up this while your cortisol raised because when you eat this food starts making all these connections for you and tells you them, which will then help you make those connections yourself and start to eat better according to your own individual body because as we know, very, very well, it's controversial to say in medical circles, the individual variance with food is massive.  Then you just need something that makes you do it. Well, you'll have all the information like and this is where trainers will still survive and there will be that business model there's because there are I mean, 100%, I know you guys had this too. Yeah, at least half of my clients would openly admit that that they don't need you anymore. Right. I've had them for years. I've taught them I've given them all the knowledge I've got.  But for the most part, I've given them all the information that I have within a year or two time. You get to the point where you're training a client and you just let's do that one. But they admit that, you know, part of what keeps them coming is they know they have a hundred fifty dollar bill that will be hit on them if they don't show up to their appointment and that's motivation. So there's a lot of interesting changes coming down the pipeline with health. So I was talking to somebody the other day about psychiatry and they were saying how so remember when we had Max on the show, right? Max Lugavir. He talked about a study in 2017 where they looked at food and take and nutrition and how it impacts depression, for example. And they found that changing diet and nutrition obviously not, this is not shocking to us because we knew this but it's shocking to the medical community that dietary intervention was extremely effective and making people feel better, less depressed and all that kind of stuff. So I was talking to somebody the other day who's going to school for psychiatry so they're new and I asked them like what kind of what are you looking to study? And they said nutritional nutritional psychiatry. That's a new wow. Yes. Really? Nutritional psychiatry is a so there's two aspects of psychiatry and psychology that are going to, in my opinion, completely revolutionize how we treat mental health issues completely. Wow, there's a degree for that. Well, it's a segment of it.  But if you're going to school now or maybe if you start to go to school in a few years this is going to be part of your like you're going to start learning this stuff. It's like being like doctors like people in medical school today are learning way more about the gut microbiome than people who went to medical school 10 or 15 years ago just because it's new accepted information. So she's saying how now nutritional psychiatry is like this new exciting thing that people are starting to look more into and I firmly so I think like I said the future of health mental health treatments is going to be so different. I think we're we're going to enter into a completely new age of psychology and psychiatry one of which being nutritional interventions well they'll take people with anxiety depression you know with you know paranoias whatever and they're going to look at diet and say okay let's manipulate and adjust your diet to see how that either a works in conjunction with this medication that we're putting you on because what some of these studies are showing is that if you're on a antidepressant drug and you include nutritional intervention you have a huge very very good outcome so I think that'll be part of it and then maybe with the milder cases you know like with kids for example there's lots of evidence to show that you know things like ADD and ADHD like your diet has a pretty big impact there's even some studies showing with some autistic kids will have improvements and their symptoms will change their diet so this is a brand new study or course of study in psychiatry that I think is going to have a massive impact and then the second part so check this out so Jessica has another friend who's also going to study psychiatry and they want to study specifically the use of psychedelics in psychiatric psychiatric medicine and that also is following the science because now you're having all these studies that are being conducted and showing that like the recent one that made all the news was how people with you know treatment resistant PTSD which for the listeners who don't know one of the more difficult things to treat with typical you know conventional means like therapy and medications like treatment resistant PTSD is just this enigma like we typically have a terrible track record of helping anybody and sometimes it takes years to even see any kinds of improvement well the study comes out that therapy with MDMA which is the popular drug found in you know ecstasy or Mali that within relatively few treatments and I don't remember exactly how many but it was like months it wasn't years it was like months of treatments that they had something like a 70% cure rate it's crazy cure and now are the regulations and all that loosening up a bit as far as using that's great because the maps program yeah because they're able to study them in a population of people that has so crazy a 0% and when they say cure what they mean is they visit they do the therapy they're done with it the person says oh my god I'm so much better then they check on them six months later then they check on them a year later then they check on them in two years later and 70% of them you know year later two years later is like oh no the treatment worked like it hasn't come back so smart to have that in a clinical setting that's the way it needs to happen you know they add all this this element there where it's controlled and they can really kind of dive deep think of a imagine a generation of psychiatrists a new generation of psychiatrists who they understand the conventional drugs they understand SSRIs anti-anxiety medications they understand anti-psychotic medications they get all that but they're also armed with a new tool a consciousness altering tool that they use with talk therapy and make it you know an attitude of 100 times more effective imagine what that'll do for potentially what it'll do for mental health you know imagine you go to the doctor and you're like I'm an alcoholic which seems to be like one of the biggest problems we face you know these days like mental health is a big issue dude the percentage of Americans on antidepressants is insane the percentage of children on ADD and ADHD medication in just the last five years is I think it's like it's grown like 20% or something like that actually look up the statistics but it's alarming it's insane we're extremely medicated and most of the medications are or a lot of the medications are these you know psychiatric drugs so I think we're about to see a revolution in how we treat mental health both through the power of nutrition and lifestyle change which is new because that's something that they didn't really examine and then the power of psychotherapy because here's the cool thing about the studies with psychedelics it's not a pill you take every day so it's not like you leave the office and you're depressed and they say okay we'll take this drug every day and then you're going to feel better it's no no no we're going to you're going to do these you know the next two months or three months you're going to do therapy with me once a week each time you meet with me we're going to work this out we're going to give you crazy therapy then you're going to do some exercise but after about two or three months that's typically how long we'll treat people and then you don't take it this stuff anymore and you get like that's going to be that'll be pretty awesome no it's around the corner too that'll be really really remarkable so I think it's good because I like reading that kind of stuff because then I think you're going to see like in couples therapy you know how many couples I know that would benefit from a fucking even if you don't go psychedelic even if you just were to do like a micro dose of that stuff I think that so many couples so I think sort of puts the spotlight on everything well here's what I think it's a powerful tool and I think if you don't realize that and you go and think it's going to give you the answer you may be in for a root awakening I know personally I know so I know one individual in particular this young lady Ayahuasca Sila Saibin was the greatest thing they ever did and it cured everything and did all this wonderful stuff and so she's like oh cool I'm going to go eat a bunch of psychedelic mushrooms and then I'm going to solve my problems you know it's you guys laugh but how many people think that that's how it works well because we know people that are into all that stuff and you listen to how they talk about it they're just like oh you got to do it you got to try it because it was such a good thing I was like I'm going to have a Saibin mushrooms and ended up with terrible PTSD from it and now I was going to conventional therapy because she's had way worse anxiety because she did it was unstructured yeah I could see it with a really well trained therapist or maybe like they call them guides like people who are experiencing this kind of stuff I could see that but I don't think this is just otherwise it's just like you're just smoking a ton of weed and trying to solve things it could turn into it could turn into your worst nightmare you know imagine a nightmare you can't escape from for hours what you perceive as days I think with something like that that kind of opens your mind up there there needs to be something beforehand that kind of preps you mentally that hey you know this could take all that stuff that may surface and you need to be okay with that before we go and I think you'd have and assimilate and all that stuff because the old studies the ones that were done in the 50s on psychedelics they talked about how because that's where we had a lot of science before now before maps is doing it all is that you know they even said and even the map studies say that set and setting are just as important as the substance so I can see that so just you have a substance that's important and part of the protocol part of the prescription is also where you're doing it so like if you you know take a bunch of soluble mushrooms and then you you know go to a busy shopping mall or you know maybe a concert or maybe around people you don't really know if you trust or whatever that could totally change everything and then also your mindset like are you super depressed and suicidal and then you're going to take this infection so you know that's that's my personal opinion but I do think we're entering into a new era of medicine that's kind of exciting so did you guys see here's some current some crazy current events so you guys remember the whole deal with Corey Feldman yeah yeah you're talking about the molestation remember what he what he did right he he talked about how yeah he's like I'm going to reveal like the top Hollywood people that are in these these you know pedophilia groups or whatever yeah who take advantage of the children in Hollywood and he told these horrible stories and then you know ever since then he's saying he's been getting death threats and he told the LAPD at one point like he made a list of names then the LAPD said they lost it that was when he was a kid right yeah then they said they lost it all and then miraculously you know someone found it so that list is out there so he's like he's talking about and he's talking about security because he's like I'm getting threats this is really crazy we all know how powerful Hollywood is well the other day he was in his car with his security and I think like three or four men approached the car and two of them distracted his security one of them opened his door and tried to stab him several times what yeah this has happened when like recently I just read this article like this today I think I read today you know he's fine he's in the hospital it was all good but his so what he wrote on his Twitter was he goes I'm in the hospital I was attacked tonight a man opened my car door stabbed me with something please say prayers thank God it was only myself and my security yeah so fuck damn like that dude this is I knew he was coming out I watched one of his like interviews just not that long ago I think I told you guys about it I didn't realize what if it's true of course it's true why wouldn't it be of course it's true bro people attacking him of course it's true that terrifies me that there's a well come on a powerful group that's doing it that's so terrifying yeah look what happened I've heard worse with politicians I've heard some dirty shit with politicians that have but they they're how about the people in Penn State I mean like yeah is that right come on dude that was like how the hell could that have even happened other than people covering everything up that shit makes me sick oh that makes me sick but it's terrifying when a guy like this like he tries to come out and he's getting like death threats you know what I mean like or and attempts on his life if that's really the there's some evil fucks out there I know that there's some powerful evil that's the part that terrifies me is that there's this it feels like there's this organized group yeah but this is again this is also what excites me about the the era that we're in now with the shit's getting aired out yeah it's just I mean real soon here the light is shining on that shit you can't be that you can't be a fucking big big person in Hollywood or a big person in politics get away with shit and get away with shit very anymore like I mean somebody is going to have seen you or find you or not like you and to get it out there it's so much easier to silence somebody 20 30 years ago like the silence something that you did it's just like dude fuck it it's out it's true because but now you can just tweet right away which is what he did right fuck that's so terrifying to me it's crazy man it's funny it's it's funny because you know with my kids you know with social media and all that and my daughter in particular starting to show a lot of interest in what we do here at work loves the fact that you know I'm on YouTube she actually the other day we were watching we were on YouTube together she pulls up mine pump she's like oh it's your channel this is so cool and she's you know trying to watch videos I'm like you know trying to pick the ones I think are safe for her to watch or whatever so at some point she doesn't listen to positive but she thinks her dad is like the coolest thing ever bro in their world right so their age and younger like TV doesn't TV they don't give a shit Tom Cruise Brad Pitt names like that they don't give a fuck about them they'll rattle off YouTube stars all day that you don't even know who they are and you saw how she was when I brought her here she was in front of the mic she likes the camera she tells me she wants to practice being in front of the camera and I'm not trying to be like the dad that's like no cause I know she'll rebel right oh I love that we need more work around here it's cool dude I should show you a video my son created where he's demonstrating stuff like he's acting like a host what are the laws on that they're your kids can we have them cleaning and working here for free is that yeah it's family I think so so there's no laws around that it's called chores yeah I'm very I'm very pro you guys bring the kids around make some tennis shoes we're gonna sell you chores no but you know what makes me what makes me afraid is well not a freight cause I don't think this is gonna I think the future is so different anyway but I just imagine like if my kid is like really loves it talented wants to be an actress wants to be in Hollywood whatever fuck no fuck no I will stop that with every fucking fiber of my being not in a million years you know what I mean well we're seeing right now it's not as big of a deal but everybody wants to be a YouTube star everybody wants to have their YouTube channel and say that it's become you know the cool thing to say like oh yeah I got a YouTube channel I'm a YouTuber I'm a YouTuber well so my son I've been talking to him cause he's really he's pretty good with his computer obviously his age group they all are right and so I told him like you know dude I said if you learn how to edit videos cause I'm gonna buy him a software so he could just have fun I'm like if you like for your heads I'm going like if you can get good at editing videos like one of the best part-time jobs you could have is you could edit our videos you'll get paid to do it it's incredible it'll look great on your resume and you just go to school at the same time it'll be awesome you know what I mean I told him like we'll pay you two bucks an hour yeah it's a lot of money for it nobody tell him I used to walk dogs for 25 cents did you really yeah and then it built up to 50 cent piece and then it built up to a silver dollar and that's what I did man you're a terrible negotiator that wasn't even that much money from back then I didn't care it was an old lady man you know what I mean look at how'd you buy her the quarter and I stacked it up too like I had I think I built up like $500 worth of like 50 cent piece holy shit it's a lot of walks it was a lot man you're a fucking champion I fucking grinded my way you probably lean to the top to the fuck back then yeah yeah probably oh shredded yeah did you really walk him or just go around the corner I'm actually I'm looking for a dog walker right now I was telling Katrina oh the app to the app that Amanda Bucci showed us remember I don't remember the name of that okay so I'll send her a message so brilliant okay when we when we did the podcast with it which by the way it's it's up now and people are loving it but we were podcasting and she had a little dog I don't remember his name what his name was Fido we'll call him Fido Fido has anybody named their dog Fido the last three years yeah spot so so the dogs playing cute dog by the way there it is wag that's it that's it you sign up for this and it's like Uber or whatever wherever you're at you have the app and then you say okay I need a dog someone to pick up my dog for a walk and somebody who sees you on the app they'll come to your location grab your dog take him from walk and then you just pay for it through the app it's like fucking Uber as long as they don't steal the dog it's awesome yeah well well like Uber yeah well you get ratings it'd be just like Uber I mean you I mean I guess like poor rating don't turn the dog don't use this guy I imagine you have I imagine you have all of your personal information if you're in there right so it's still your dog yeah yeah I will report your ass yeah I think you'd find him it's a brilliant idea yeah it is brilliant if they kidnap your dog am I so using that if they kidnap your dog just get a refund he can refund so when I had when I bought my years ago when I bought my house which I no longer own thanks divorce I have shout out yeah shout out divorce taking money me since you know this last two years ago so anyway what's that joke when you're getting married it's betting betting half your stuff that this will work out so anyway I put a child those child proof fences to that pool and my kids were young and you know if you look at the statistics on by the way this is why I recommend everybody be objective about shit I wasn't worried about getting my kids getting kidnapped or anything like that cause the odds are really low but I did see the statistics on kids drowning it's actually quite high one of those fences those child proof fences so the guy comes he's installing it so I'm having I'm having a conversation with him and I'm like so how like how good are these things like oh they're they're really great you can't go under you can't climb them you know they're child proof this and that and I said so you guys guarantee that it's child proof he's like yeah so like if my kid drowns do I get a full refund the look on the guy's face oh my god he did not respond he had no idea he's like I wanna refund there's a lot of paperwork involved but let's see what we can do exactly I wonder if they're gonna have do they have babysitter apps yeah they do they do right yeah they do care.com I think really they just show up free plug for you yeah they use them no no I've keep everything in the families as much as possible in my neighbor I don't know man it's tough I'm sure they vet you know I'm sure there's great people on there and I just haven't been in a position where I feel like comfortable with that yeah that's a scary one cause stealing kids is a bigger deal than stealing dogs it's a little bit bigger you know what Adam I have to agree with that I have to agree with that statement it is stealing kids you know that so when Justin my buddy just had his kid they put like these little sensors on their feet now I know yeah because it's so popular that people come in in the baby area and they fucking steal kids I didn't know that that's a real like they switch them out yeah there's some I'm not a believer that's up there with you know keying my car you know you key my car you steal my kid that's an ass whooping in your way dude I worked hard for that one yeah just go take that away from me there's very few things that would like motivate me to consciously try to kill you like my goal is to murder you right now and that's one of them that would be one of them that would be a high one I'm talking about the key in the car for sure you key my Jetta you key my 2012 Jetta with the with the scratch I remember when someone keyed my Corolla I was like of all the vehicles you've had that done yeah dude someone keyed the fuck out of my Corolla one time and I kind of laughed about it and for one my insurance would cover all that shit but I'm like of all the vehicles like that's the one I don't give a shit is personal it is it was more like dude who fucking I was like whoever this is they don't know me very well fuck your shitty car yeah really want to get to you have you must I mean god damn you've done some some dirt bro this is how you know I wonder you got one bad review this is how you know this is how you know when you're if you're dating a dude or you got a buddy and you want to know if this guy's done some dirt against women ask them how many times their car's been keyed or if they've had their car stolen or shit like that or their house burned out yeah so for example Adam how many times have your car's been keyed so I've had two cars keyed and two cars stolen that's you've dabbled in a little bit of crazy that's a little bit of roads you gotta pick different well you're with Katrina now so you're all good all the times it happened to me I remember like of course that's the first thing as a guy you go through the Rolodex like what girls did I piss off did I really do looking back do you see the signs like you know that type of a girl no you know why because the girls that do do that right the ones that are crazy enough to do that they're fucking crazy anyways like that's what it was that my the signs that I have now looking back were the type of women that I was dating they were just crazy right so they were already characteristics yeah it wasn't like I did I wasn't a guy that did girls in fact I pride in myself on almost every girl that I'd ever did it ever I've remained in good contact or good relations we were friends it wasn't hate when we ended so I always pride in myself out there you know I had this my M.O. was you know the going for the girl that's had the sign on her back there I had the sign on my back that said that you know I will help you type of deal right so I got a lot of I got I got I played Captain save a hope you know what and this is something for I think a lot of this is also why I think that getting married before 25 or 30 years old is just how do you do that because you're still figuring out how did you marry got married that age dude you tend to you do like me bad idea you tend to navigate or drawn to the things you're the things that patch or cover up your insecurities or the things that you shouldn't be with you know what I'm saying like it's like if I had all these if I had these mother issues or father issues or all the stuff that's rooted from childhood it makes sense that I started to gravitate towards these girls after I've been in that role for a while I realized like I didn't want to sign up for being a dad here like this is supposed to be a partnership they're supposed to equally help me grow equally yoked so I think a lot of people fall on that trap don't realize would you get bored real fast with them probably right I wouldn't say real fast because I think I again I got off on the had some fun along the way you know well I enjoyed I enjoyed it I enjoyed being that you know being the leader in the relationship I always did it and I did a lot of girls that were my age or older most of them were but I just had a little more life experience and so I played a kind of a father role and I actually I liked it you know why because it fed my ego yeah you felt we felt more right and that was an insecurity it was an insecurity of mine that I needed to feel like I was this you know super smart guy and I knew all these things therefore I dated these girls I could teach them everything not been attracted to no because I what I was drawn to was finding women like that that I was still smarter then right so that was what pushed me to grow so it served me a lot it was like I didn't want some dumb girl you know I didn't date a bunch of dummies like I did but I dated a lot of girls that I just had like I said more life experience or were more educated in certain areas and so I liked playing so daddy issues oh swipe right I'll be taking over that was definitely that was my MO so yeah so of course a lot of PhD brilliant women that I dated they might been brilliant in book smart but then as far as their communication their social skills their family issues things like that like with my experience and my background I just had I had a lot to give and share with those people and that fed me wrong things yeah it's you know that whole thing like you have to really truly love yourself before we can really truly love someone else agreed it's so it's so true because you're only going to be you're only going to be able to partner with someone you know that's based on your your own weaknesses I mean it's all that's like the limiting factor like if you're this insecure you don't deserve much that's what you end up with and that's what it means like love yourself you know or you have to love yourself first because if you don't why would I be with like if I don't love myself fully of course I'm going to choose someone's going to kind of treat me like shit a little bit and not be that great and awesome because I don't deserve any better in my mind yeah you know but if I love myself truly I know what I deserve and what I'm worth and when you truly know yourself you know the deepest darkest secrets and insecurities about yourself and once you've made that connection it makes it easier to kind of evaluate relationships that you have and this is not just you know sexual relationships this means like personal friends all relationships like it's amazing what you know we have this kind of primal instinct that we all have in us that we tend to gravitate towards you tend to gravitate to these type of people all the time and learning to be able to detach yourself and go like well what is it about them that I continue hanging out with them all the time or why am I drawn to these type of girls once you become the common denominator you got to ask that question yeah I think that's such an important role because I'll talk to people like friends of mine they'll be like oh man I keep getting in these shitty relationships and we're all the good men and this and that like okay well what's the common situation you know what's in common with let's look at this like a math equation right what are you attracted to yeah what's the one common denominator in the situation and it's so hard for someone to swallow that pill because how many times have you guys heard that like girls or guys that are saying like oh I always wear all the good guys or I continue to date douche bags well okay well why is that what are you drawn to you got to break that pattern like you're drawn to something that's probably rooted and that's why you keep going after these relationships and you have no idea how unhealthy they are but they feel good because they feel comfortable at first because it's all you know it's what you've been raised to think is normal so you're drawn to that and here's what's interesting subconsciously people want what they think they deserve okay this is very important to understand so if you think poorly of yourself if you think you're a piece of shit if you think you're not worthy if you're whatever you want what you think you deserve you actually want it so you see people like this all the time like people who eat terribly and are overweight and hate their bodies the kind of work out they want is the one that punishes them because that's what they think they deserve they don't want they don't want the one that feels good and stuff like that because I don't deserve that this is why people sabotage relationships they'll be dating someone they'll sabotage because they don't deserve maybe that person's too good for them this is that whole like you know like that stereotype you have that girl who's only attracted to assholes and if she's with a nice guy she'll sabotage it or leave him because she subconsciously you want what you deserve they think it's like they get bored with it but really they're just like they're sabotaging because they don't feel comfortable you want to be punished for being a shitty person or thinking that you're a shitty person or thinking you're not this great person and so you subconsciously will seek out that punishment because we all want what we deserve so if you truly love yourself you're going to treat yourself in a way where you think you deserve good shit if you don't well you're going to be in your way until you figure that out for your entire life agreed the first question is from blackburn7171 what's the quickest way to lose belly fat ooh the absolute quickest way to lose let's go straight to the quickest form right it's to probably take an exacto knife and then you're going to square it that'll probably be the fastest way get a vacuum and suck it shove it in there and just kill it right away yeah you know I'm joking but you know I say you know what this question is as simple as it sounds this is the most common question we get no and I went this direction by saying something silly like that because this is kind of how I would when somebody would ask me a question like this I'd always say well the quickest way well the quickest way is not the way I always suggest it's not I mean it literally is like if someone came to me and said hey I want to lose Adam 20 pounds as fast or lose belly fat or 20 pounds as fast as I possibly can okay excellent what I'm going to have you do is you're not going to lose belly fat for the next two weeks you're going to get on the treadmill you're going to go every single day now I tell people like don't really do that you're probably going to die on your way trying to do that but that's an extreme analogy of what you're asking me right now you're asking me the fastest way to do it the fastest way to do it isn't necessarily the most sustainable way to do it so when we lose this belly fat are you interested in just losing it right now as quick as you possibly can at any extremes and measures to do that or do you want to lose this belly fat and not put it back on for the rest of your life like that's what I would ask right back your body is it's your house except you can never move out of it right you live in this for the rest of your life so if you were building a house just imagine this for a second let's say you had the opportunity to build your own house and you knew that that's where you were going to live for the rest of your life you were never going to be able to move or whatever that's where you're going to live would you take a bunch of workers and would you ask them make me a house as fast as humanly possible or would you say make this the most quality best house you possibly can yeah so the question shouldn't be and I'll answer the quickest way too but it shouldn't be what's the quickest way the question should be what's the best way what's the best way to lose right body fat or belly fat or whatever you want to call it that's the question you want to ask because the best way first off isn't super slow either I think people confuse the best with the slowest because no that's not that's not the slowest they're definitely the slowest way you want progress yeah I mean that's like just a normal thing you're still going to progress and you're still going to progress relatively quickly it's just not as quick as doing it the quickest way which is the wrong way now why is the quickest way the wrong way well the quickest way would be dramatically reduce your calories and dramatically increase your activity level and blingo blingo you're going to lose you know pounds of body fat and maybe so and some muscle on a skinny on a really tell the consistent basis until your metabolism starts to adapt and adjust and then you have to do that again where now you gotta cut even more calories and increase your activity even more and we it's not you need to take a rocket scientist to see where that leads and what ends up happening but if you did follow that protocol and just did that ad nauseum just keep applying those two principles to keep losing fat as fast as possible where you'll end up is yes you'll have less weight on you but you'll also have worse fitness you'll have a metabolic rate that's far slower because the metabolism does adapt you'll have some hormonal issues where your body now maybe you know your cortisol and your adrenal hormones and your catecholamines and the way they communicate with each other and your pituitary and the way that communicates with those starts to adjust and change because you've just done gone the route of cutting calories and increasing activity and have less muscle to the point where I do a little bit of coaching on the side right still do a little bit of coaching the vast majority of people that message me are people men and women but usually women but also men who say the following to me I did three shows last year or I did three shows two years ago got my body weight down to 110 pounds and I was shredded and you know I would like to just weigh 125 pounds which is nice and lean but now my body weights 150 pounds and I'm only consuming 12 to 1300 calories a day and I'm still working at every day and I don't know what the hell is going on like two years later so if you want to put yourself in a position like that well then your goal should be always quickest, quickest, quickest, quickest and I promise you at some point you know some people's bodies are more resilient than others you'll end up in that position and then you're you're fucked because I feel bad I will work with some of these people and I'll tell them like okay well here's a deal you're doing an hour of exercise five days a week and you're consuming about 1200 calories it's going to take probably a year to not lose the weight because we're probably not going to lose any weight in a year but just to get you to the point where we can even start to examine restricting calories again and examine what weight loss is going to look for you so you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that for the next year you're going to be working very, very hard and you cannot use weight loss as a measurement of success we're going to be looking at your health, your energy, your digestion everything you're going to have to completely forget weight loss and just accept that you weigh 160 pounds or whatever for the next year and that is a shitty position to be in especially for someone who identifies with their body right, right but let's reframe this question to where we can kind of answer it for somebody is that you know let's assume that this person has a healthy metabolism and they're consuming you know well over 2000 calories or whatever 100 calories I'm going to use some numbers that I used to use for clients to get the picture although I know there's some nerve that it's listening right now oh I heard some other study that that's not very accurate but it's not the point it's not the point so the idea is to give people an idea of what is the healthy amount of body fat should I lose in a week and how much work does that actually take so I'm going to give you some numbers one a healthy amount of body fat okay so fat to lose in a week it's about a pound of two that's fast that's a lot right that's on the upper end right so you could even get away with a half a pound is still a good amount every single week so why I tell people this is because a lot of times when we start on this fat loss journey or losing this belly fat we come out the gates and we want to see as much results as possible and you a week goes by and ten pounds are off the scale and you're excited and I would actually tell that client no bad too much too fast too much and we're really shooting ourselves in the foot long term so I think that and that changes dramatically if you're also incorporating strength training for the first time because I know that if you're starting to strength train while you're also trying to lose this this belly fat I know your body is going to be adapting and building some muscle so there's a really good chance that the scale is at zero and if it is at zero movement example me right now I'm on you know work out number eight coming up right now I'm a little bit consistently and my weight has not moved I'm at two oh eight is when I started and I'm at two way right now what does that tell me but you look different I'm right on pace I know my body is changing you've probably lost you've probably lost size around your waist and everything right but it's not a lot it's not like holy shit you know but what I know is that I'm adding volume of training I wasn't training like I am training right now so I'm doing lifting like I wasn't so I know my body making better food choices so all those things accounting for that I know that my body is going to be building a little bit of muscle burning a little bit of fat so when I look at the scale I actually don't want to see a huge shift in fact if I see a huge shift that's my indicator that I need to either throttle back or that I can kick it up a notch like I also wouldn't want to see a huge increase on the scale but to be honest if I saw one pound up I may not even adjust anything I'm less concerned about even seeing a pound up and my metabolism is going to be going up and then taking the fact that okay roughly 3500 calories equals a pound of fat so if you're trying to lose that pound of fat in a week's time creating a 3500 calorie deficit through your movement through the whole week is a good little strategy or a good place to be and anything over that then you start flirting with slowing your metabolism down because you're restricting from so many calories so those are all again arbitrary numbers and everybody's going to be uniquely different and yada yada yada but the reason why I want to use this as an example is probably the biggest mistake that I see when people go after a goal like this is the desire to see change really fast and if you actually understood that this is and everyone's heard this before but you got to really grasp it that it is a marathon it's not a sprint and nobody would come out the gates of a marathon sprinting as hard as losing your belly fat the strategy is not to do as much as possible right away to lose it as quickly that might show you good results in two or three days but at one point your body's going to adapt to that and then you're not going to see as much change here's a and again the individual variance is pretty big so this is general this is very very general but the approach I typically would take with someone if their main goal is to lose body fat is I would start with first we're going to try and build your strength now why am I going to focus on building strength first well if I if I can get your metabolism to speed up so to speak then I have more to play with later on and I'm also protecting your body or protecting you from the metabolic adaptation that we don't want which is a slower metabolism it also balances out your hormones it just it helps you burn body fat all those different things so step one build more strength step two clean up the diet a little bit what I mean by that is take out your diet and take out the big rocks that you can remove from your diet first like okay every day I start my day off with a frappuccino or you know I tend to bagel and cream cheese yeah or bagel and cream cheese or you know whatever okay so start with one thing and clean it up a little bit and just change that make change the food habits to being a little bit better than they are now and start there just there do that for a little while that should yield you some progress already start to see changes in your body how you feel and maybe even in the scale then the next step is look at your total calories and reduce them a little bit then the third stage is start to play with your macronutrients to make them more ideal then the fourth stage is now try to increase or your calorie burn through neat and then the next stage would be now we can add cardio but you want to kind of follow those steps and all those steps are not necessary by the way but by saying you have to at the end add cardio many times just resistance training a little bit more neat and cleaning up the diet usually that's all kind of needs and you get pretty much where you want to go but that's the sequence that I would follow what you just listed is exactly what's happening and I'll give people some ideas of what I'm doing right now because my goal right now is to lose body fat I have definitely put on weight especially on my waist that I'm not on the lines of you know starting to build some muscle I primarily want to lose body fat more than anything else so this is right up my goal and of course I'm trying to do it as fast as possible but as efficient as possible so the first month the goal was because I knew I wasn't moving this much I wasn't even getting 5,000 steps a day so I don't want to crazy stretch myself so my goal was right about 8,000 steps a day so I just moved picked up my neat just a little bit I also was eating out every single day at least once if not multiple times a day I was eating out of a lot of my regular places but I was also allowing things that I normally wouldn't allow for example if I eat at 5 guys or a burger place I was eating fries with it if I go to Chipotle I'm having chips and guacamole with it so if I'm having a poke bowl I was having jalapeno chips with it these are and so I know that the jalapeno chips the chips in guacamole the french fries are not serving me very well but it's also something that I was doing every single day these types of choices so now all I've done is I'm still going to Chipotle if I eat at 5 guys I've cut the fries out you know and I didn't cut it out all the time I cut it out more than half the time right now so I'll take little things like that and just make a little bit of adjustment I'm not going to say no more 5 guys I'm not going to say no more Chipotle I'm not going to say never again am I going to have them say okay if I was consistently doing this almost every day just by me simply only allowing it once a week or twice a week for me is a significant difference than what it was before logically speaking easy which is a big big part of this a big part of this is that psychological component far more effective I remember when I first became I guarantee you guys did the same thing when I first became a trainer people would hire me and I'd throw everything at them right off the bat okay you want to lose 3 pounds here's your meal plan here's your workout there's so much card you're going to do we're going to get you to lose 30 pounds super ineffective every once in a while I get a client that would do it all lose weight they'd always gain it back but it was super if you right now are listening to this podcast and you're I don't know 20, 30, 40 pounds or more overweight in order to lose that weight you have to change things on a fundamental level to cause your body to adapt to lose 30 pounds or 40 pounds it's not going to go away with you not changing anything at my point and so that's your life something about your life has to fundamentally change now how on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard is it to fundamentally change things about your life a 10 everything I don't care what you're doing anything look at your entire life think about something that you're going to fundamentally change your job where I live you know my you know what I do all day long or what I do it for fun just changing things that you do every single day those are massive challenges they're big changes in your life so what you're asking yourself to do is change your eating habits and your activity levels or activity habits fundamentally so that you no longer carry around this extra body fat well that's a that's a big thing you're asking of yourself so the approach should be this you want to challenge yourself that's definitely important because if you don't challenge yourself it's not going to be worth it if this is easy I promise you you'll never I mean honestly if there was a weight loss pill you would see people gain the weight back too because it would be nothing they take the pill lose the weight and gain it back and have to keep taking the pill because there's nothing learn from it there's no changes challenging so that you have to kind of push yourself a little bit and grow but don't make it so challenging that you that's not realistic for you to stay consistent with it you say something all the time that I love is that you have to change your verbiage too the way you look at it it's like I'm not doing this because I can't have these things I'm doing because I don't want to and so I even look at it like that for going back to the examples of me you know taking the fries out or with that well I think it was just last week I had five guys and I wanted it and I also know that I had already strung together like four or five days in a row where I was eating really good and then the way I stretch myself and I give myself challenges is I compete against myself so you know let's say the best I've done right now is four days of like dialed in eating and then I end up having something that's kind of off the menu that's not ideal for me and I know that but I'm okay with that I'm choosing to do that it's Friday night we've been good all week we trained earlier that day like this is still constantly so I'm gonna allow it I'm gonna enjoy it tonight with Katrina okay well I've now strung four days in a row before a mishap has happened let's see if I can put five days let's see if I can put seven days and I keep playing this game with myself of and then when I do it I look at and Katrina let's say Katrina comes home one night she goes honey I am just craving this and I go oh I don't want I don't want to do that because I've already made it four days and the most I've made is five I want to get to six and you tell yourself you don't want to if I do I've earned it that's how I look at it and I just keep piling on it but it's very individual so if you're if you're a person who is struggling and this is very difficult for you your challenge is gonna look very different from Adams your challenge may literally be you know you ask yourself like okay I want to lose 30 pounds alright what am I what am I willing to do that's challenging but I know I'm gonna do consistently I think that's the biggest point because you know each individual they understand themselves the best they understand whatever they can do that they can stick with and what those specifics are like what's the most mentally challenging I mean when you start kind of scaling that back okay what's one thing I can do tomorrow now add on to that what's the second thing right so let me let me give you a scenario I'll give you a fake scenario that might help right so let's say you know I'm sitting there I'm like okay I need to lose 30 pounds you know I'm unhealthy or whatever I don't like the way I look alright so what can I do you know it says I should work out three days a week am I willing to work out three days a week consistently and reliably no definitely not gonna do that am I willing to work out two days a week hmm consistently let's say I'm doing zero now I have to wake up early because I go to work so two days a week I have to wake up you know two hours early to work out no not gonna do that one day a week no not gonna do that am I willing to park my car at the end of the parking lot for work yes I'm willing to do that perfect so every day I'm gonna park my car at the furthest part of the parking lot and then I'm gonna walk to work so boom that's what I'm gonna do what about nutrition okay let me look at my diet am I willing to cut out sugar you know reliably no I really really like sugar alright am I willing to cut my sugar in half I don't know okay well am I willing to cut sugar one day yes I'm willing to do that and so this is literally what you're doing with yourself and this by the way this is a what psychologists have used for decades to help people overcome some of these challenges no different with your weight it's like what Andrew Hill does with addiction that's why I think that's why I thought it was so fascinating the way he's treating drug and alcohol addiction I thought the way we've treated drug and alcohol addiction for so long was so backwards thinking of this taking an addict who's been doing it forever and then you demonize it and take it away from him and say never ever again it's like it's your body that's what's so effective it could literally be this it could even be this like you know what I'm so lazy I'm not willing to do anything most things to help me lose weight am I willing to read a book on better nutrition yes I'm willing to do that cool that's what I'm gonna do I mean that's it literally so my point with this is the best way to lose belly fat or the best way to lose fat it's on you it's you and the best way to do it is challenge yourself enough but challenge yourself with things you can do consistently and when you prove yourself you can do that then you progress to the next level and you have to be insanely honest with yourself you can't be swayed by what people expect of you or who tells you something and advice like you literally have to evaluate all of these things and be insanely honest with yourself that you're gonna stick to this you're gonna make this happen and it's something that's actionable I had a client that had over a hundred trained her years ago three years I trained her she lost 20 pounds in three years okay that's pretty fucking slow fat loss especially when you have 100 pounds to lose but the following year she lost well I think 70 pounds or something like that she almost lost all of the weight in that final year but it took her three years just to lose the first 20 this same lady now we're talking years later and by the way statistics on someone losing that much weight and the statistics on them gaining it back it's horrible she hasn't gained a pack not only has she not gained a back she's fitter far fitter than she was before so there's just an easy example next question is from Hunter Given what is the healthiest way to bulk what types of carbs should you consume healthiest way to bulk well let's start with the unhealthiest ways to bulk the ways I used to bulk I used to weight gainer 5,000 I used to get my body weight routinely I would do this every year I did this for years every winter ish or I should say post-summer I would be like time to get big and I would eat as much as humanly possible I would take weight gainer shakes I would pound my mouth with food I would take all the supplements and I would get my body weight now granted it's like the grisly bear approach you're going into hibernation if you look at me now I'm six foot I'm anywhere between 186 to 192 pounds relatively muscular relatively lean I'm not like this massive big dude I don't have this huge frame right I used to I used to get my body weight up to 230 every year 230 pounds so that's an additional 40 plus pounds on my body just packing it on and let me tell you and let me tell you you look badass most of it was not muscle thick neck I'm trying to convince him to go back there come on bro terrible come on bro and I would get thick.com I would stuff my face I'd eat, eat, eat, eat, eat until I got so sick of food and then summertime would come around and then I'd do this massive cut where I'd drop 30 to 40 pounds and then I'd repeat the next year and every year I'd never really progressed it was always back and forth back and forth I wasn't like this every year I'm getting a little bit of progress type of deal and that was a very unhealthy way to bulk and I guarantee you that I'm sure played a role and some of my gut issues by just stuffing myself with food and causing inflammation all these other things which then later on made it impossible to bulk because my gut could no longer handle pushing the food and so unhealthy way to bulk is just eating anything and everything and then counting every pound on the scale as good weight such a good point right there I think I over complicated this for many, many years because of what you just said right there but I was the skinny kid who couldn't put any muscle on bulking was so difficult for me that I was so attached to what the scale would say every night before I went to bed and every morning when I woke up and that was what dictated how I ate the next day and I should have known better I knew the science but for some reason which is why I think we speak so passionately about this because we know that I know I understand the science and I still fell victim of being a slave to the scale where I was allowing it to give me the feedback on how I should be eating and training the next day so I think people don't realize if you got a killer program that you're following so that would be the healthiest way to bulk the first thing I tell you is to get on a program send the right signal right exactly send the right signal get in a solid program and make sure you're following that because if you are scaling it correctly if you're phasing it correctly the body will adapt and change it does not take that much extra calories for it to respond and start to build muscle so I didn't think that way before it was all a calorie game for me before I was not looking at my programming as much as I would lean towards programming now my programming followed my diet like if I got stronger oh cool then I'm going to lift heavier but it was never like look at my program I want to gain how should I train exactly so I think that's the I think if you're feeding the body what it needs if you're hitting your minimum targets as far as proteins and fats and carbohydrate intake for what your body needs and your programming is on point majority of people's bodies will respond and they'll be able to bulk up now the I think the way I did it in the past is kind of the lazy way or the way that everybody else seems to be doing it which is just put on as much weight and it's easy because it justifies the excuse to eating all this shit food it's like I'm on the bulk bro you know what I'm saying I'm on the bulk that's why I'm eating this way like duh it's hard for me to gain weight like I know what I'm doing but on days like that when you're really bulking hard what would your day look like food wise calories what would you eat throughout the day oh my god I'll tell you I think I did this on the podcast a long time ago yeah I want to hear it again this was a staple day for me for years I would first wake up in the morning I would have four ego waffles with peanut butter throw in the toaster yeah a couple tablespoons of peanut butter smeared all over them and then real maple syrup and then I would wash it down with my first rockstar and I'd have that on the way to work as soon as I got to work then across the street we had this little bagel donut place and so then I go over there and I get this ham, egg, cheese, croissant another rockstar and a glazed donut and then I would come back to the gym so this is all within the first hour and a half of my day this is what I would do and then I wouldn't be hungry until after my work I used to work out on lunch around noon or one and then I'd have one or two depending on how big of a bowl come on how much weight I'm pushing or if I was taking testosterone I would have a large quiznose or second quiznose sandwich plus chips and a drink then after that I would finally eat the one meal that I probably prepared for myself which would be a staple chicken and rice and broccoli type of meal and I'd have that a healthy meal yeah I'd have one or two like these quote unquote healthier meals like that were actually prepared before I leave work I'd leave work around 6 to 8 p.m. at night on the way home I'd swing into McDonald's I'd get a number one plus an extra Big Mac and a 20 piece McNugget and that was a long it's a calorie bomb right there oh yeah that's what I ate for a very very long time to maintain and it was tough too because I was moving a lot I mean I was training 10 to 12 clients a day so I was burning a fuck ton of calories I was training hard and heavy every day 7 days a week plus I was playing pick up ball every now and then the interesting thing would be if we were to count all that up and look at the calories and macros I wonder if you ate the same amount of calories and macros but you ate foods that were not fast food and not processed and stuff like that I wonder if it would have made an impact oh I believe my personal belief is that I could have ate significantly less but healthier choices of calories and I would have seen as much gains as far as building muscle because a lot of what I built and I think that when you're a guy who has a skinny complex and you see your shirts filling out and you're putting in those scales going up all things are good man I'm heading the right direction but when I really started to get into like breaking down like how much my body fat percentage is and how much I lose like real quick it was opened my eyes that oh my god I'm putting 20 pounds on but you know 12 of it is body fat 8 of it is muscle I used to hate that when I test my body fat I'm like fuck and then you go the other direction and you lean out and we cut hard and then out of 20 pounds I lose all 20 pounds that I need to lose and I end up losing almost all maybe one pound of muscle stayed on me or maybe two pounds of muscle which is like a user error on the body fat percentage I bulked up this hard I put all this weight on just so I could actually net one to two pounds of muscle which the funny thing is one to two pounds of muscle is good that's a good gain but if you just changed your exercise programming where it was better you probably wouldn't have to change anything about your diet and you gain one or two pounds you know what I'm saying I agree and by the way if you're disagreeing with me and you're listening right now here's your little thought experiment fuck I'll take the Pepsi Channel say try the program run one of our programs for three months and do that I'll fucking give your money back here's my here's my thought experiment take somebody who's just lifting weights and they're eating whatever they're eating and it's like I can't gain a single pound don't increase their calories at all don't change anything put them on steroids watch what happens all of a sudden they can build muscle well what does that tell you that tells you that all they need is the signal now with steroids it's a hormonal signal well forget steroids for a second you can send the right signal with resistance training and so changing your programming will yield you more muscle and more muscle doesn't take a pound of muscle a week like let's say you gain a pound of fucking muscle a week that's a that's a you're kicking ass you're gonna see that dude you're crushing three months you put on what 812 pounds of lean body mass like you're killing it a pound of muscle theoretically is how many extra grams of protein and calories would your body need to build that right that's like an extra I don't know 5 grams of protein a day 10 grams of protein a day maybe if your body and what happens when you train properly is yeah it's 100 grams of protein divide that by you know 7 days and what does that turn into right it's not a ton more protein especially if you do over the course of if you start to calculate over the months it's not a ton more protein plus as you train and send the right signal your body changes how it uses protein so it's you don't even necessarily need the extra protein your body becomes more efficient with this protein where more of it goes it becomes dedicated to muscle building recovery and less of it gets dedicated to being used for calories so I'll give you one of my days so what I what I so I had to actually there were two cycles of bulking that I've done and one of them was I would wake up in the morning and I'd have between 60 6 to 8 whole eggs with cheese so I'd scramble that and a half a box it's a regular box of Cheerios half of the box with whole milk that was breakfast right then in between breakfast and lunch I would have a 700 to 900 calorie weight gainer shake which I would just pound and sometimes if I was feeling really like motivated I'd throw in a protein bar with that at the same time then lunch would usually consist of some type of insane amount of fast food whether it was a bucket of chicken from KFC or it was I'd go to McDonald's and get the 99 cent you know cheeseburger and I'd get like seven of them you know I'd be like fuck I mean seven cheeseburger so it would be an insane amount then between lunch and dinner I'd have another one of those weight gainer shakes and then for dinner I'd have around a pound of some kind of meat and I'd have a couple big ass bowls of pasta wonderfully attractive squishiness he must have been like just smelling it up man bro I was oh you know what dude I did not know this at the time but you know yes I know you know farts come out of your butt hole and all that stuff they're not supposed to be super putrid smelling I thought all farts you know what I mean I'm like oh yeah it's a fart you know the difference in especially when you're when you have to go through like these weight rooms like with like big ass dudes like every now and then you'll you'll get somebody to drop one of those protein you know super like I mean they're eating way too much food type of smelling farts it it literally knocks everybody out dude you can't even stomach it dude I got I got like a major like argument with my ex-wife we were married because I would just bust ass and then it would just it was heavy and just really bad and we get these big old fights about it and my argument was like it's a fart it's supposed to smell it is fart she was right sorry no next question is from more jojo a body positive intuitive eating advocate argued that it is not important that people know portion size or know how certain foods affect the body in mind what are your thoughts on the extreme body positive advocates who seem to encourage body acceptance with no regard to healthy habits how do you see somebody ask a question similar to this that I had never and they on the Q&A they put the hashtag there too and had something to do with this organization that is similar to what I think they might be talking about the same thing right here I never had heard of this but it's what we've discussed before with there's this learning to love your body and love yourself and then there's this like using that as an excuse to not not address and do diligence as far as like understanding you know the amount of calories you're consuming the macronutrients and like just educating yourself here's the deal like once I think the the medical standard for technically obesity is if we're carrying 20 or 30 pounds of body fat extra then our our body frame should have on us and over 65% of the the country is in that place and over 80% of the country is overweight and here's the deal I don't care how the fuck you draw this up like if you're if you're that overweight or more which most people are it's a reflection of your eating habits it's not like a reflection of your character you know what I'm saying this doesn't mean you're a bad person because you but it does mean you're not taking care of your fucking vessel I don't give a shit how you draw it up and so I think the education around eating and understanding what's doing your body is extremely important especially if you think if you're going to coach and tell people they should be intuitively eating which I think is like the fucking black belt of fucking nutrition like you I don't even believe I'm there how the fuck would you tell someone to intuitively eat without them knowing about food and how it affects their body like what you're basically telling someone to do is to eat blind or non-intuitive or unaware eating is what you're asking people to do so that makes no sense here's the thing with body acceptance first off completely different things so Adam touched on about your character you can objectively you know look in the mirror and say okay I have excess body fat or my body reflects my poor eating habits and my lack of activity but you can in the same breath you can say I love myself I love myself and I'm a good person now here's the deal I've heard people say this before by the way I've had people I've gotten in debates and arguments so people were like I don't need to work out I don't need to in fact what you're actually demonstrating is you don't love your body you really don't so to say you love your body and then go around and not take care of your body like how do you take let me ask you a question how do you take care of things you care about like if you care about your car I really love my car how do you take you get a car washed you get a detail make sure it doesn't get dinged up you get to keep the inside organized and clean you get the oil changed how do you treat a car when you don't give a shit about it you don't care about the inside you don't get the oil changed the light comes on and on your dash you ignore it so how does somebody who cares about their body in a true sense who really loves their body and I don't mean accept because acceptance is important too you don't want to fight reality I don't want to you know look in the mirror and be like this is not me like yeah accept your body there's nothing wrong with that of course you have to accept things accept reality but how would you treat yourself if you truly love yourself if you really truly love yourself and what I mean by that is if you took care of yourself like you took care of somebody that you cared about would that include eating a lot of foods that aren't necessarily good for you would it include not being active would it include you know poor health habits you know on a daily basis of course not that's not what caring about your body looks like in the true sense there's a massive difference between cravings and real hunger right too so like how do you even decipher whether or not like if your body's telling you I want to eat this and you're just listening to your body how do you know that that's the right thing you never even understood that we've said it since day one since we put out the intuitive eating guide and even before we put the guide out we talked about this for a long time in mind pump that the ultimate goal obviously is to get to intuitive eating and intuitive training the ultimate goal is to not have to feel like you always need this like rigorous like structure just to get you to be healthy and in shape but the bottom line is it's necessary that you learn some of this in order to do that you can't just expect to do that I mean there's a lot of steps along the way of getting to the point to where you can intuitively eat I was just thinking of like like Wim Hof right he does like these super human crazy things like he'll just go jump in like freezing water right and it's almost like oh I'm just gonna go jump in freezing water I have no idea how to understand how to regulate my body in order to handle that type of stress and situation take it another step let's say you've never played tennis in your entire life maybe never even seen it and you're at a you know tennis game or whatever and people like hey go pick up a racket and play tennis like cool I'm gonna go intuitively play tennis okay you're gonna fucking suck you're not even know the rules you have no idea what tennis is so how can you even now take it another step further let's say you took it seriously and you're like okay I need to learn the rules of tennis I need to learn what the ball is I need to know what the score is I need to know what the you know how to serve I'm gonna have someone teach me I'm gonna and then you play tennis a lot and you practice and practice and practice and eventually get so good that you can play intuitively eventually it's in your subconscious eventually the ball comes out you and you know how to swing at it or you know how to react or you watch the ball coming out you know where it's gonna go and where it's gonna bounce and how it's gonna move that's the intuitive part that you can reach with nutrition but there's no way to get there if you don't understand the fundamentals if you don't know how your body first of all if you don't know what hunger is which most of you don't who are listening 100% you all know cravings I know that but you definitely don't know hunger if you haven't gone longer than 24 or 48 hours without food you don't know what hunger is what you do know is cravings and cravings are connected to emotions they're connected to settings and they're connected to the people that are around you so when you're with your friends and you have a craving it's usually I'm sad happy excited anxious whatever or I'm in this environment and in this environment you know I'm in Mexico so Mexican food sounds really good or I'm with these friends and we're enjoying ourselves and that's what drives our typically our food choices and of course everything goes into that right what the food tastes like and all that stuff so you can't that's not hunger that's craving so that's number one number two you don't know what's in food not only do you not know what's in food but take another step further you don't know what you eat you have no idea ask yourself how many grams of protein do I eat every single day I guarantee you'll get it wrong you know ask yourself how many calories you eat every day 100% you're gonna get it wrong so how can you intuitively eat if you don't even know the rules of the game you don't even know what the game looks like you have no idea you're just floating around listening to cravings eating whatever's there whatever feels good and it's arguably one of the most complex games I would 100% agree with that right when you talk about when you talk about the mind and the body dude you're talking about two of the we are so we're learning so much still about that just collectively as a society and then in addition to that there's such an individual variance with so many people so it's probably one of the most complex games that you can learn to play so to be ignorant and to think that you're gonna step on the court and I guess we're used to tennis I don't know why you went that way well because I think it makes sense it all sports do right so any sport does I thought it was cute that you was on the mind yeah I was like you play tennis were you watching tennis love love I don't know what that means love means zero oh sorry so and here's the other part of this this body acceptance you know I'm all about being positive about your self-image your body image I'm also very strong advocate of reality so positive so let me give you an example let's say let's say you know you have a friend who has a tragic tragic accident and they lose their legs they lose their legs in a car accident and they're depressed about it and they come to you and they're like I'm fucking depressed man you're like well what's going on well I can't I can't walk you know I'm stuck in this wheelchair I can't walk and I can't run anymore and then I tell them oh yes you can you've got legs everything's great they're gonna be like what the fuck are you talking about dude what's the reality instead I can say you're right you're right you lost your legs but here's what we can do here are the things we can do so when you're looking at yourself and you're you know you want to be positive it's also good to it's also extremely important to be objective so you can say to yourself I'm 30 pounds overweight my body reflects poor health however I love myself instead of the false body positive thing where it's like I'm beautiful I think I'm great I'm healthy I can move I'm great no that's not true probably not your health probably isn't as good as it could be you know you can't move that well because you get tired getting in and out of your car you know you're not treating yourself well like it's okay to be honest well it's not okay to not how devastating is it for that person who's been told this or who's been practicing this mantra for a while and then they go see their doctor five years later and he goes oh by the way you have diabetes right but wait I'm so healthy and beautiful positive like for the last three years this can't be possible like I've been intuitive eating and I love myself more than I've ever no get the fuck out of it you know what it reminds me of it reminds me when you said like how I think a great analogy is like when you brought up I remember one time on the podcast we were talking about how you don't tell your son he's smart and I thought that was really interesting like why wouldn't you say that to him and you actually had an incredible point while you don't you don't want him to identify with that because one day he's going to run because he is very smart he is right right that's why I said I thought that was crazy I'm like he is a very smart kid why wouldn't you tell him that and it's like well because I don't want him to identify with that so then when he gets older and he fuck maybe he's someone smarter than him or he has a hard time with that he doesn't collapse and fall apart because my daddy told me I was fucking smart the same thing goes for the fat girl I mean you've been sitting here sitting in front of the mirror all the time telling about how great you look and your body image is awesome and I'm beautiful I'm so sexy on this and that you keep telling and then also the doctor slaps on you oh you got diabetes you got your fucking you got this blocked up you got this going on with you and you look all dumbfounded like you don't have no idea why it was because you think you've been loving yourself but you really haven't no you're hating yourself body image totally different from self image self image it's important you care about yourself and when you truly do care about yourself through your self image then the body image starts to your objective body image that starts to change because your body will start to change you can work your way up that's what it's all about that's what it's all about you know what I mean the best of Seb I am an assistant fitness director at my club and am very passionate at what I do my managers on the other hand aren't my fitness director is very egotistical and only enjoys her title my GM is unmotivated and isn't willing to do anything to improve the club our numbers are horrible and my team hates it here what steps can we take to change our numbers, staff attitude and club future be the change man be the change that you want so if you're in a position of assistant fitness director you have a certain level of control in the sense that you can probably call meetings or maybe do trainings one on one you're in charge of the weekends you're in charge of something right so what I recommend is take control and so maybe have a conversation with your fitness director and be like hey you know what I'd love to do I'd love to on Monday I'd love to offer a free you know sales training course to some of the trainers you know how do you feel about that now for the most part I would assume that the fitness director or the GM would be like yeah I don't that's cool I don't care about that now if they say no and they don't allow you to do your job this is a totally different conversation but if they let you do these things that are gonna probably make them more money too start doing that start becoming the leader in the gym and you know organize these people maybe take the best trainer you know who's good at correctional exercise and go up to them and say hey look you're the best person in the gym at correctional exercise would you like to teach a class on a correctional exercise and then maybe go to the best sales person maybe that's not you maybe it's someone else like would you mind teaching a group of us trainers how to sell better on this particular day and organize that and then maybe you do role playing with other trainers and then maybe you go out on the workout floor and you start implementing new change and ideas and you slowly become the leader of the movement in that gym and you do it in a very positive fun awesome way and then before you know it you become the fitness director or the GM it's usually the direction it goes I'm gonna challenge them a little bit first to look at themselves too one great book along these lines and I think I've mentioned it a long time ago on the show John C. Maxwell's 360 leader I think is a great read for this situation right here because it discusses what it's like trying to become a leader or be a leader in middle management which is exactly where you're at right now so I think that's a great read it was one of those game changers for me when I was going through a very similar situation now the self reflection piece that I'm gonna give you is that one, you're an assistant you're assistant fitness manager club manager whatever right now and sometimes when we're in our position it's really easy to look at upper management and companies and owners and VPs and CEOs and be like I can't believe they're not doing this and I would this and then we'll listen you're not there for a reason you know you haven't built you didn't build a multi-million dollar company up you didn't build a business that has 2,000 workouts 30 employees and so there's a lot more to it than maybe the decisions that you think need to be made or should be done so you know a little self reflection on yourself and what you can be doing right now is growing and developing as a leader and being the best at what you currently do and so what I would do for myself and what I did in this exact situation was I'm gonna work so hard at being the best at my position and what I do that I will gain attention and respect for my peers and that's how I started I started with you know being competitive with myself and saying okay you know I can be the best within my facility and then when it became the best in my facility I can be the best in my area and when I was the best in my area I can be one of the best in the company and so I was pushing myself because I 100% believe in speed of the leader especially in a business like this to gain the respect of your peers without education and information from you otherwise you're just a glorified assistant manager who got a title because they think you're an ass kisser which is probably what most people think and it's unfortunate but that's just how this works and so I wouldn't let the title get in my head as far as like trying to get these guys telling these guys what to do if I'm not kicking so much ass that people aren't asking me questions most of the work would go into this is my club I'm a trainer even before I was even an assistant but not because you're telling everybody what to do but because you're the best one right I'm going to go out there and I'm going to impact my so much more powerful you just command respect that right as a so for much of my career and I haven't talked a lot about this but for much of my career I actually trained the other side of the house right so the sales side as a fitness why I was was because I was known as the best I was the best salesman I was the best trainer and I was the one who was communicating with my members the most I was the one communicating with the staff and helping people out the most and when you start to you start to create yourself as the authority without even needing a title you don't need that and so I would push myself if I'm you to become that guy or girl first where my staff the staff around me the people around me are wanting to know what am I doing to be so successful that now leads me an opportunity to lead and teach and then to tell them what I think but if they don't respect your opinion right now well instead of like saying they're dumb or maybe they don't know better there's that maybe look at yourself what am I not doing that hasn't got their attention that they don't even want to ask I would carry a little chip I think that's great advice honestly I don't have much to contribute to that other than you know like if you want their attention obviously it literally they will change by asking you questions at some point so that's really the feedback that you want is for them to approach you as opposed to you trying how did you do that yeah that just makes so much more change right versus the opposite which yeah it will sort of turn into that position where there's going to be quarrel amongst people as to why you got moving up and I know I feel for this person because depending on the situation you know I've worked I had one district manager when so when I grand opened Santa Teresa the club there one of the managers that I had the district managers I had was for the most part I always had great people that I worked under and what I mean by that is either they you know I was able to be mentored by them in some way or they just left me alone which was the best thing you could possibly do because if you left me alone and let me do my thing I would kill it I would crush it wouldn't be a problem but I had one district manager who was I mean just pure garbage just completely inadequate as a manager terrible leader and this is the kind of guy he would show up into my gym and he would think that he was doing training with my staff and they would hide they'd be like tell me something to do like he's going to crap me out I'm not going to be able to sell today or I'm not going to be able to train today like he's here or he'd give these another meeting to get everybody back on track Sal so he'd have a meeting he'd leave I'd call another meeting everybody back in here because everybody so crapped out about the shitty meeting they just had with this district manager he was fucking terrible just a terrible leader nobody respected him he'd show up and he used to try and find reasons to fuck with me at one point he wrote me up because I highlighted the master appointment book in a way he didn't like in other words I underlined things with the highlighter no no no no you need to fill in the whole thing with highlighter and he actually wrote me up for this which I thought was even though I was saving highlighters that's why I was trying to do that I'm like I'm going through fucking packs of highlighters a company spending a fortune on this bullshit and the pages are all wet and shit let me just underline it's the same fucking thing actually got a write up for that so anyway this guy's was so much garbage that I couldn't stand it but then he went on vacation and that's when I seized my vacation he put me in charge of the district and when you put me in and the hard thing was how do I get this across to his manager because it's a hard thing to do right it's hard to go above your manager to the next manager and be like hey listen this guy sucks now I had a lot of clout because I'd been in the company a little while and I was a good performer but still you kind of sound like a cry baby or you sound like a you got to be careful with that right like why are you complaining right so I waited had my opportunity to go on vacation and just like Adam was saying I was like I'm going to fucking because I'm in charge of the district while he's gone I'm going to make the shit happen and what I'm going to do it so well that the VP who's his boss is going to be like why the fuck isn't this happening when so was so was in town why is it happening now and that's exactly what I did he left I fucking took over the district we crushed it everybody was happy the reports were like this is the fucking greatest you know week of whatever well I remember I remember too that when you get an assistant position like this in our facilities back when we were in clubs forever ago you would be in charge of the weekend right so if you're an assistant the assistant fitness manager the assistant GM they manage the weekends that was like that was part of the assistant's job and so my goal always was which by the way and our like the gym that I was from you know Saturdays and Sundays always underperformed Monday through Friday but I don't typical I believed it underperformed because we all believed it underperformed and because there was no energy or effort put into the weekends and everybody left work by 3 o'clock in the afternoon but what if somebody actually fucking grinded it out like a 10 to 12 hour day like we did on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday like what if I grind it out what if I actually structured a ton of appointments on that day more than what we had on the following Monday like what if I took charge of this is all I got I've only got two days and my boss and my boss's boss can like that's how you get attention that way I mean you it has nothing to do with them I used to do the same thing your fitness director is not going to tell you can't work a long day on Saturday or he's not going to tell you can't book a bunch of free appointments they're not going to tell you you can't make the weekend better which they're probably too lazy to even come in and do are you kidding me like that's your opportunity and then I tell you what those days 100% and then at the very minimum your peers are going to again this is what happened to me because it took about six months before I was the top guy you know and everyone sees this guy who's 20 years old who's crushing everybody in revenue it didn't take long for all my peers to come over and be like hey what are you doing man what are you saying in your preso that people are doing this and then now these instead of me being like I'm the boss I'm going to do me and say hey man what are you doing and now I have an opportunity to lead turn the weekends into strong ends you remember that back in the day oh shit yeah so check this out show notes if you go to mind pump media dot com and go into the podcast tab all episodes have show notes so we have links to the studies we talk about it tells you you know minute by minute what we talk about so you can promos and affiliates and all that stuff mind pump media dot com go to the podcast tab thank you for listening to mind pump if your goal is to build and shape your body dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance check out our discounted RGB super bundle at mind pump media dot com the RGB super bundle 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