attention for what I think is going to be a fascinating panel on technological change and global governance in health and I'd very much like to invite Sheikh Muhammad bin Hamad al-Fani to the platform here. Christian Brayshaw is already here. Madame Dieu Manier, please, thank you. Is Sheikh Muhammad here? Please, Fatah Sayyaf. Our three panelists are going to wax eloquent on on the subject but it does occur to me that when I look at you in the audience and I look at our panelists here, our distinguished panelists, most of you, most of us I hope, include myself, will live into our 80s and plenty of you will make it past the 100 mark. So this means that modern technology has actually improved our health. However, we have ailments, epidemics that cross frontiers, AIDS, SARS, Ebola, Zika, I mean these are maladies which actually demand collaboration between governments and between health systems. They also demand big improvements, big inventions in the field of medical research. So what I would first like to do is ask Sheikh Dr. Muhammad bin Hamad al-Fani, who is the Director of Public Health, Ministry of Public Health, Qata to take the floor. Yes, from there. Thank you very much for your kind invitation. We are very glad here to be here with you and in what policy conference. We believe that this is important dialogue for all the countries that work together and it's always a chance for us to learn from each other. As my experience as Director of Public Health in the last 10 years and how we move westward in Qatar and many people ask us, what's the reason that Qatar grow very quickly? Either there many countries have oil and gas before. One of the main things that is mentioned here and interesting me is governance and technology. These things are the future of the 21st century. In every century, before the industrial revolution, now it's the technology revolution and maybe mainly starting by internet. I want to start first from governance that we learned as Qatar before we don't have a medical college. So all our people travel around the world, study in USA, UK, Canada, Arab world, even Egypt, Syria, Pakistan. Then we come back with different knowledge and this different countries have given us a lot of richness in our health sector. Then we move forward to understand more how to governance of the work and the value of governance internationally. Of course, all the world think that the last 60 years we have less deaths and grow in population due only for peaceful, 90% to 80% peaceful work than before. But it's mainly they forget about the effect of medical technology and the innovation that happened that follow this to grow by vaccinations, antibiotics and other intervention that happened mainly in public health. Here we would like to think always about governance. Now I saw today in the morning a lot of worries that in change of the leadership, it will make a risk for the world improvement. And this is something is not acceptable. If you read the history always, you will find that in history, nobody can stop humanity from growing up. Anybody will try to stop that. He will not win in the end. So we understand well that to lead the world, you should think about the humanity and the growth of humankind. So this was happening before between one leading country or empire that grow the world, but now there's not any more. Now it's working more for global governance. And we need to put stress on this word global governance. It's not acceptable to put all the world risk on one decision or one person or one country is the world is grown enough. The Internet has traveled quickly between countries. I want to assure that if even there's something wrong happening in country, it doesn't affect all the world. This is something we have learned in Qatar. We even I'm here with you in a very political issue because we're having working in intersection collaboration. And this many people from foreign affairs come to Mr. Health to support us with some leading issues in health and we come to support them in this issue. This is going to give us solidarity and to move forward. The second thing Qatar is known for long time to invest. Thanks guys. We don't have any taxes on the technology. So always we invest in technology in early stages between the West and the East Far East. And we get always the technology would help us sometimes that without having much sophisticated people or program systems, the technology will help us to cope and to excel quicker by this technology. Now I think everyone know not is too much to know about dictation grammar. The computer is fixing everything in health. Now we are having a systems of said electronic surveillance system and in Hamid Hospital and our system. We have now Surner program, which is connecting all the world and monitoring the system properly and easy way than before. We believe this practice should be grown around the world. And we have different structures that been achieving a lot of effects. One of these very simple things is car accidents. Before in Qatar it was 26 per 100,000 deaths. And now have moved forward with the decision of the country and technology. It moved to less than one third, eight per 100,000. This means that speed limit cameras, all these technology have supported us not only by the culture, by monitoring the system properly. If you tell me what you want, I want from this as a health person. I want to tell you that we respect the world. The doctors respect each other, you know, around the world. And we work together without race, nationality, and this will help the world to give magical issues in health. Like now we have treatment for hepatitis C. Nobody believe like Egypt and Pakistan having 20 percent of their population with that C. And now they have a chance to survive this. People were divorced and now we have Viagra and Seyalis and we get a lot of things moving forward to keep the families connected more and and we have promoted life that you can study enough and still have just to enjoy the life because of longer liberty of life and better productivity in your giving hope for people. We want this to transfer even in politics. We want to do a plan like we have the brave sustainable development goals that happen to 2030 putting the world together on the same target and the same track. So whatever who is from the right party, from the left party, everybody should be responsible to deliver this sustainable development goals. And this gives us a positive that if we achieve maybe 80 or 90 percent of this into 2030 the world will be in different place. What is something that it's our responsibility for history if we check very well that we need every time to move the world into the future. This was happening all the time by different reasons. Of course there is some catastrophes happening in the world, some disasters. But if you look very well like any movie the evil start but at the end the good people wins. And this is what we want to do here and we are hoping from this to find a declaration to to may have a better governance that whatever it's like insurance for the world. Whatever something mistake happen the system will keep going on because the good people wrote it long time and agreed on before having the wrong people in power. The second thing is advancing technology and try to market it as soon as possible to the other countries because some of the countries they can make a leap frog jump like some kind didn't use ATM they directly use their phone to take cash from the machines in Africa. And this is because they they didn't get need this middle part they jump directly to the future. We hope that this will help the world even to go to finish the goal of poverty goal number one no poverty which is a challenging one but I believe with good humans we'll always find a better generation for our children's and grandson. Thank you. Thank you very much. Just one question actually on Qatar and one of the great problems it seems to me in the medical world now is that antibiotics are becoming disease resistant and in a lot of countries especially in the Middle East you can simply go to a pharmacy and buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription. What happens in Qatar? Yeah I'll tell you we are in the Middle East but of course we'll find many things in Qatar will be really exceptional. Of course we have a law for eight to ten years not to prescribe antibiotics without without a subscribe from the doctor this is working very well but always the challenge and this is something worries that we are starting to invest in but Qatar in the end is a small country and the challenge comes usually from the massive countries you know strategically fix the big countries automatically the small country will be fixed so this should be starting from the bigger countries and maybe the technology will help us to track every pill you know like for the for the addiction things like morphine other you can track every pill and by the technology you can make it easier for antibiotics to say who took this pill and where this package was sent to and to get it the only challenge now the world is becoming smaller and smaller traveling is easy so when you fix it in Qatar and you don't fix it in a neighbor country you'll always have some smuggling here and there so it should be having a innovative idea to to tackle where did this antibiotic used and more awareness in the medical field. Thank you very much and now it's my pleasure to ask Cristian Breschel from the Institute Pasteur and Cristian I know you have a presentation to make so. Thank you very much Mr. Andrews and thank you to Thierry de Montbriade for the invitation and for setting up this session. I will start with a quote from a Nobel Prize in Nebrennere and he stated that progress in science depends on new techniques new discoveries and new ideas probably in that order this may be a too strong statement but it really illustrates that technology is really at the heart of the progress in biomedical research. Now before moving forward it's important to emphasize that scientists do need in the field of biomedical research infrastructures, equipment, technological platform and this at several levels sequencing for example and Mrs. Dr. Drew will present this for the Beijing Genome Institute is now a bench side equipment and in fact a lot of it is outsourced in centers such as the Beijing Genome Institute. The key is bioinformatics and integrative biology but life science and biomedical research has moved to a status which was previously devoted to physics or to chemistry which is the need to large equipment such for example as this cryo electron microscopy at the national level to the synchrotron and it's interesting to see that about 35 percent of the activity of the synchrotron solar in France is devoted to life science so it's a complete redistribution of the need this in the context obviously of connectivity sharing information and the major point of automatization and the blend between individual creativity of the scientists and automatization. It is very relevant for our for the Pasteur Institute I will not go into detail which is a large research institute in France multidisciplinary 2,500 people also involved very much in public health in teaching and in public private partnerships and this in the context of an international network and in addition to this and it is really my pleasure we have initiated with very interesting collaborations so in this context this is an example of the what we call the titan cryo electron microscopy this is a new generation of electron microscopy it costs 10 million euros it needs a special building it cannot be decentralized and it can lead to some informations which are invaluable this is a picture of in red blue and yellow of antibodies which bind to the Ebola viral protein and this image really allowed to design new treatments new diagnostic tests and new vaccines and Felix Ray in our institute has recently shown that antibodies to the dengue virus cross-react with antibodies to the Zika virus and this opens very interesting perspective for prevention and treatment another example you can directly visualize the viral particle of HIV as we never have been able before to do so so regarding the governance we really come to a point where each of the research institute worldwide cannot have all the large infrastructures and that we need to have networks and of distributed infrastructures this is the example of the european molecular biology laboratory with facilities in heidelberg many platforms in grown-ups structural biology in the uk with bioinformatics and in italy with murine biology and there are other examples and there will be an increasing number now coming to the sequencing we know all of us that it's a revolution that the cost has very much declined and that this has allowed a new appraisal actually of the human genome and the implication of disorders of the human genome but it's always important to remind that you have other technologies i'm not going to detail this is what we call microfluidic at the institute pastor and it's really allows to set up new immuno assays which are hundred to thousand times more sensitive than the current assays so all this progress has led really to the concretization over the past 15 years of what we call personalized medicine precision medicine where we are really able to identify the parameters of an individual of a single individual among the population and to design biomarkers for prediction of treatment efficacy of treatment side effects and the we many analysis show that this can only increase in the future already 42 percent of the new drugs from the companies are can be a minimum to be personalized to be targeted on a personal basis and it comes to 73 percent for cancer and we foresee a very significant increase in the future and it's a topic of large investment for the companies so we we need to put this in the context of the global and one health perspective and this slide illustrates a very important move in the UK with genomic england in the US with the precision medicine initiative there is a move to have hundred of thousand of individuals hundred of thousand individuals who are followed up on a prospective basis with all their genome analysis being determined and this will allow to really have a new insight into global health the resilience project is particularly interesting the idea is you follow up a cohort of individuals who have mutations they should have the disease they don't have the disease and so the question is the reverse is wire and which are the components which modulate the impact on the genome of mutations this is a major turn this is very demanding but we need to have these large cohorts so obviously we need to share this information worldwide and clearly we have entered via our technology allows us and this has been shown in other sessions to really be beyond i would say the goodwill and the the talkings really to mind electronic health records for better research application and clinical care and where as we are all of us aware of it's about really coming from the data obtained in the individuals to data which are obtained in the laboratory then integrate the data and this is the keyword in database and then transfer this to a number of institutions and doctors and now we have entered the era of large network which gather for example in the US but we also have this in Europe and in Asia different hospitals research institutions which can share this data obviously this raise a number of questions which can be addressed before later now we have entered also the era where large companies are becoming new players and they provide new software frameworks which have now helped to empower people to take a more active role in their health this is for an example with apple this is with microsoft for respiratoriness this is with i cannot read but in oncology but i could have cited obviously other companies but this is a major move that the patient is a much more active partner of his or her health through these technologies we are entered the era of artificial intelligence deep learning facebook is an example i could cite others and again it's about the individual being part of the whole process finally rapid diagnostic test is a key point point of care there are now disposable which will completely overhaul the way we regulate our tests and the health system and it goes beyond the diagnostic test i like this slide which shows the evolution of the status cop over the years since the first discovery by setting up by lynec and we have so sophisticated disposal that again we can use them in a very different way so it's about what leroy hood calls predictive personalize preventive and participate participatory approach to medicine the famous before but we have to be realistic it's also about personalized problematic and promising because we know that we have several challenges reproducibility of the data this is a key point if we share if we transfer data which are not reproducible this obviously has no value economics questions with regulatory agencies and affix confidentiality of the data and so on so the question and especially for an institute such as the pastor institute is how really again to integrate all this progress in the global and one health perspective and it is clear that the institute pastor is very much focused on its international network thirty three institutes now in 26 countries and we are setting up presently the one in guinea in konakri so again rapid diagnostic tests are very important for many countries where we are working and they are completely changing the pattern of diagnostics it's really allows this connection test onsite communicate and then act at pastor we have been working very hard on next generation diagnostic test this is an example of a task force that we have set up following the ebola crisis obviously i don't want to go into detail where you have several examples of immuno assay and molecular biology based assay they share the same concept they can be performed very rapidly and again and again they can be performed onsite i'm very proud of this this is what our students had just recently won at pastor the gold medal at what is called the international the international genetically engineering competition ijim in boston engineering competition in boston and they have designed a tool to both on the same apparatus trap a mosquito test for the presence of a virus and share the result throughout the world and this is how it will stand in the field so we have a bulk of technologies which allow to work on a centralized organization and also to work on a decentralized organization so i will skip this up but just to illustrate again that we provide infrastructure teaching onsite capacities in all these in all these countries but the point i want to make is that the new technologies the capacity both onsite to generate the data and to share the data allow to design worldwide a regional and global approach again i don't want to go into detail these are several scientific consortia which are run globally beyond malaria and resistant to antibiotics on a number of pathogens and clinical conditions and this we have really entered the era of molecular epidemiologic map of a disease this is a new england journal medicine paper which has been published by 10 pastor institutes working with several partners in many countries and they provide the first molecular map of resistance to treatment of malaria by what we call artemisemine this would not have been feasible only five years ago the institute pastor is obviously at the heart of the reaction to a sanitary crisis and again all the technologies before sequencing before sharing the information are at the heart of the coordination we can set up to meet with all of these sanitary emergencies and crisis which are listed here we we need to have networks we need to have networks between different countries and this is an example of a network which is has been supported by the european commission which is really about one health that means merging the efforts of clinical medicine veterinary medicine to really provide a survey of infections and emerging infections in different countries and this is a good example because you want to establish this network but then you need the correct technologies to do so this is another example performed in partnership with the united states with the assistant secretary for preparedness and reaction which is really again on the setting up of networks to prevent and react against a sanitary crisis for example for avian flu for the influenzae so we have set up now within the international network this is an example in cameroon of novel system architectures and features of platforms platform to generate the data platform to share the data and provide early warning systems so again it's always the same organization which is very easy to describe on a slide very very difficult to set up actually where from left to right you generate the data on site you merge the data you integrate the data and this is really where it comes as difficult and then you are able to transfer the data the point i want to make with these slides is that what has been perceived initially only a few years ago as something really which would be only focused only possible for say so-called developed countries is now absolutely amenable to emerging and developing countries finally this is an important action which again illustrates the potential of this evolution this is what we call the pastor global health genomic center it means in selected institute of the network provides the bio banking capacities meeting with the regulatory constraints the ethics and the economics and then provide to the selected institute the capacity to generate data on site instead of transferring the samples to friends to the us to other countries but then to share the data with a computer biology based information system and obviously we cannot do this by ourselves we are in the era of partnerships this is a clear example of the need for governing rules we are interacting with the gate foundation on this with the sage bio networks also with industrial partners and this is a case where we have to share the information but also to meet with constraints obviously again with confidentiality with intellectual property with overall security so to close i would like to shift the the topic just for very few slides on the i have nearly finished but because i believe we need to remain very humble with regard to technologies there is a very interesting topic which is the intestinal microbiota that means we have actually two genomes our human genome and what we call the bacteria genome about 1.5 kilogram of bacteria in our intestine and the interplay between these two genomes these two genomes is really shaping actually our personality our features and is very important for a number of disease including so-called non communicable disease diabetes obesity cancer neurological disorders sequencing of the intestinal bacteria was impossible about 10 years ago the progress in technology in sequencing has led to analyze in detail these populations and it has contributed to a medical revolution which is ongoing which is a capacity to transfer the gut microbiota from here one animal to the other and to transfer a given phenotype but now this is possible in humans and this is a new england journal of medicine paper very impressive which shows i as a pointer is not working on this screen but when you have patients with claustridium difficile which is a very difficult infection to treat if you compare in the center those who have received a fecal transplantation a microbiota transplantation from patients who have recovered from claustridium difficile and you compared on the right part those only treated by regular antibiotics there is a huge difference and those who receive fecal microbiota from recovered patients recover themselves so the point i want to make is that this is excellent but if you look at this this is really an old concept which has been revisited it was well known in veterinary medicine it was well known by the chinese and during several chinese dynasty and so the point is that in some cases what really technology allows us to do is a reappraisal of old concept but this is not a problem this is at the benefit of the patients so to close again when we speak of technology we speak of automatization but we should never forget that individuals will be at the heart of creativity and this is what this slide illustrates when we recruit young scientists we want them to be modern but we want them to keep the image of the founder of louis pastor so this is a painting from my great which name is la clairvoyance and i like it because it really shows that technology has made huge progress huge progress it is a real revolution and obviously i have only shown a part of it we see the applications well however we are still we are painting the bird but we are still looking at the egg and what we hope for the next years is really to be able to have this transition from the egg to the bird and this is really what free institute pastor with the partners is very much committed to thank you very much thank you dr bristow and i'm sure we will come back to ethics and personalized medicine later when we have the questions for the audience and now it's my pleasure to ask dr zhamanye from the genomics institute in beijing yes i think you brought sequencing down to a very cheap yes affordable level right right yeah actually we we created the trend of the sequencing so i have a quick presentation yes actually they will not cause the beijing genomic institute because seven seven years before they moved from beijing to shenzhen now we are a totally private organization so the dawn of life area that's my topic why seven years before when i first visited a Nobel museum museum in sweden i saw this long ruler it's the two meters ruler and a one size that is 200 big event the other one is in the 200th science and technology breakthrough so it surprised me in the last year 2000 it's a human genome project almost completely deciphered actually it's not completely deciphered because that project spent 13 years and this thousand scientists joined the project so it takes 3.8 billion u.s dollar to sequence one human genome but you see now and of course everybody will ask gene what's the relationship between gene and the disease actually it's very closely related to us including birth defect also the infectious disease and also the cancer of the chronic disease so every kind of disease related very closely related to you genes of course not not only the gene from parents also from your gut bacteria so that's the the right light is the morsel everybody knows morsel how revolution revolution the the it the it area the the green one is the cost of per genome actually the at the end as the beginning of the 2000 bji funded in 1999 and then we moved to shenzhen in 2007 so you see the the first the point the second point and and in 2010 we bought 128 sequences so actually we we create a market for sequencing and at that time they occupied a 40 percent market global globally and in last year we launched our own sequencer and thus we reduced the cost of genome to 1000 so from in last 30 years from 3.8 billion dollar to 1000 dollar in we are very confident in the next three years we will reduce the cost to 100 dollars and this picture from the singularity university the chairman of balding informatics uh roman mcowley uh gave a lesson to the mba emb students so you see the the bji in the middle actually bji opened a new the door for a new world why what's the new world it's we just the transformation from from from industrial area to the life uh area and uh I would like to to say what's the secret of the world the changing the world we know the world is changing so what's the secret like look look back the uh 200 years history these three can a kind of product or uh invisible product like service uh change the world the first one is uh uh private car and for the model t uh make everybody every family have a car because of chi uh I I think we still remember the slogan of of fort is every family have a car and the and the second the information is now no pc like the windhouse system uh and uh google a smartphone change the world totally so that's morse law uh in credit credit that and uh in the next stage that that's why I mentioned the the rule of the novice law because that's my milestone for the next for this century so I think genome sequencing we call it a super super morse law will will will totally change as a radical change it's a paradigm shift so what's the sequence is a low cost high production also the high throughput we call in sequencing and access accessible for everybody so we just that's our target we will make the genome sequencing affordable and accessible to everybody and uh that's the bji triangle it's bji is very unique organization we have a research institute uh actually we published the top journal uh papers over 40 over 40 uh papers on the top journal like cell new england nature and science act uh up to now we already published the 250 papers on this four kind of journals and we also have the industrial side we have our own clinical uh service uh company now is already uh it will be listed on the um uh in public it already uh 10 yeah 10 billion US dollars is valued and the other side we we uh benefit the society we just uh cut the the cost and the the price of the sequence genome and so we pay pay more attention about the society but at the core you know our advantage is a big data large sample and the full coverage uh populations we believe the high quality data full coverage data will be much greater than AI and deep learning of course we need but first you have you have needed the high quality data so one person I have to mention is the former president of imperial college of london you say bji is not only innovating you you are changing the way of innovation so actually we integrated uh basic research and the industry and the popular livelihood so we we we call it the bji triangle uh they already sequencing uh five million peoples uh so I don't because of time limited I don't want to mention too much uh the the first one the nipt is the non in the invasive prenatal um testing it's a disruptive technology so we we already finished uh 1.6 million people and uh now the global healthcare challenge is uh is a three of the big challenges aging population and younger cancer patient the the last one is a serious birth defect especially in in a developing country so how we can face the challenge what we can do for that I have to mention the story of the sepulos in in in 1973 sepulos uh initiated the national program they collaborated fun uh with the fund is with the church with the government government they they just reduced the of the uh um of the sepulos so of course as a as a developing country it's uh do much better than UK than in Italy so I think it's a time to be cooperated with each other between developing country and developed country so that's a paradigm shift as I mentioned many changes in the in the in this area so we need a new discovery so fund is should uh should pay a lot of effort and the technologies should be developed and management even should be changed that's why we we build a very unique organization it's not like uh uh not like a company and the ethics of of course need to change um policy of and culture so I think so many changes not only one country can face they should collaborate each other so that's a photo from the elevator you see the three most important age is health happiness and hope so I think it's it's time to initiate a war on disease so Biden or already needs uh the cancer uh moonshot initiated by Obama and uh but not only in in the developed country I think we we should work together and that's the the most brilliant things in BGI not the secrecy not the cost and the speed but I think the vision we the vision is all mixed for all for better life so I think despite of challenging and difficult we should work together we we should don't forget don't be not only don't be evil we should always for good thank you so much thank you very much indeed Dr. Ju um we'll have we have about 18 minutes so not a lot of time um but let me just get on to this question of ethics um we are making well we you are making such advances in science and medicine at some point there must be there must already be ethical boundaries um I mean if I put it in journalistic phrase are you worried about designer babies Dr. Prashu I mean this gets into the territory of eugenics almost excuse me this almost gets into the uh into the the realm of eugenics yes yes well I mean there are really several tears to be considered because uh so yes we are very much worried and I believe that we should be worried I mean as soon as you start even you see again you have for example technology such as the famous CRISPR cast technology which is very popular and where you have the possibility to have say reprogrammation of some embryonic sets these are some fundamental questions that we must address that's one point but from what I presented we already have the major concern of for me this is a key issue on how are we going to secure all this data and the access to this data and this is a general question obviously nothing new nothing special to the institute pastor or to other institutes but now that it comes to the um now that we have really easier way uh to generate this data to transmit this data and we know that we must transmit this data I believe that we have really to to sit uh with several uh parts of the society and really decide how we want to uh to determine for example some data should remain the property of individual some data might be the property of the state uh some data might be shared so now the good point is that my understanding although I'm not an expert is that you have technologies which should allow to do so so this is a general answer because I believe that we are at the dawn of this but yes it's a very important concern let me put almost the same question to Sheikh Mohammed uh I mean in Britain for example there is quite um a serious body I can't remember the name of it to deal with ethical issues or medicine especially medical research and I wonder if Qatar has the same thing let's thank you for the question it's very important and always debatable in our region about ethical and usually sometimes our region is conservative things doesn't start usually in our region it need more open region to start the bold decisions but in Qatar we have a research uh a committee and we have a international research fund that take care about every research the human rights and the ethics before we start anything this is something that we it's known in Qatar nobody can do something against ethics and humans in Qatar as the signature before you do that but what I'm saying about discussing about the ethics of these issues always we are worried from the future but the future always give us good things too you know because we were worried about the internet about our privacy okay it's hurting us but give us a big value we're worried about IVF some people were saying forbidding IVF now it's a big value for many people to keep living and make them more happy so of course you can do IVF in the wrong way like there is a knife a gun many other things you know you can use the internet in the wrong things too but but things are as a whole moving the world to the future of humanity and giving them and and many things that we couldn't believe that they can achieve I don't think anyone can stop the the wheel from going on but we need always to work only on directing it to the right decisions together thank you madam you are really the same question I mean you you are the genome is no mystery now you're talking about the internet of life where do we go eventually I mean when you if you are going faster than Moore's law we are really into something absolutely unknown territory which may or may not be terrifying it may be wonderful every kind of technology is a double sided war right but the human genome project actually is a start to digitalize life it's make the ATCG it's translate the ATCG to one one zero one zero so it's a life is digital 20 years before no they believe that but now it's time so I think I would like to give a comment for your for the geo editing and in this year a case of children in the United States kill the serocinia completely with the with the gene editing so you see if we can we we're talking about the Isis but I think Isis is a kind of production relationship it's a should decide is a product productivity right so I think thousand years before the marriage cannot happen outside the one tribe but but now it's you know it's forbidden to marry with three generation right yeah so that's that's a good example for the ISIC need to be changed so I I think that's a it's a good it's good time because health and longevity is everybody's dream you they we love innovation but innovation for what right so I think it's a time to to to to water on disease to reduce disease and collaborate the Qatar and other in Middle East country and so I think I believe it I think it's it's much better than industrial time okay any questions please from the audience if if you have any burning issue that you'd like to bring up if you want to design your own population let me in that case turn to Dr Brachel you use the the phrase personalized medicine doesn't that in the end mean that the wealthy will get the medicine they need and the poor will not because the pharmaceutical companies if they are if the medicine is personalized then presumably the market will be smaller and therefore the price will be higher this is also an interesting question for this I'm not so anxious because you see before taking the position of president at pastor I was the vice president of a company involved on in vitro diagnostics and we had this discussion between diagnostics and pharma in principle the pharma would not like to reduce the market because you decrease the number of patients susceptible to receive the drugs and so it is so that then there might be a tendency to have an increase in the price but on the other hand you really target those patients who who need the drug and there is a very important point when you speak of precision medicine which is also to determine those who will have side effects so you see in the balance you have ready to take in account all the results I mean that's my first part of the question it's not only about determining the efficacy but also the tolerance and so this is really worth taking in charge by the health systems the cost the second point is that the progress in point of care in rapid diagnostic tests the capacity to have really everywhere in the world communication about the results will allow many more patients to benefit of this of this personalized medicine for me the main problem of precision medicine or personalized medicine whatever are really the quality of the results which are generated you see when you have Beijing Genome Institute you know you have reproducible results but we will have worldwide a bulk of information and if they are not correct then you come to a precision medicine which is absolutely unprecise a question from the audience I can't see any bomb in that case I'm going to ask one last question really to I think Sheikh Mohammed but actually no all of you we talk here of governance and the implication is that this is collaboration between states on a global level but if you look at the headlines then I think one might argue at the most effective body in medicine for the masses at the moment is perhaps the Gates Foundation or the Clinton global initiative is this a failure of governments that the space is actually being taken by private individuals you touch very important thing that we are sometimes we are not happy about is that if you check about the biggest and the oldest institute of World Health Organization which we haven't mentioned once so far yes and and the challenge that World Health Organization have big made a big value through history and they are aligning the efforts between countries and make them have the chance to meet every year in Geneva to discuss the issues but surprisingly that you know the budget of World Health Organization only four billion for maybe 10 years with the any any ministry of health in the world maybe most of them have more than four billion so they have a trillion so they have trillions they have have three hundred billion dollar and not sharing to put some money in governance more and we have a failure that happened like Ebola they didn't want to pay for Ebola enough and all of a sudden they are ready to pay billions for Ebola if you started in the prevention early stage you will not go there but some they were not hearing what is the threats are happening like in Ebola so Bill Gates Organization is now work alone but could work or it work with WHO again there is Rockefeller there is a Clinton Foundation many of them they but what happened between these people they focused on some issues so they focused on their success but they don't work comprehensively so what we are missing we are having successful story in one subject but we are losing the time to put more seeds in the in the ground and see the trees growing up so we want to be more smart in the future be comprehensive and scale the work for different types of subjects to prevent and treat in health this what we call the real innovation that started in 20th century and we want to keep this in the 21st century in more smarter way by arranging our our goals together thank you thank you very much that's fascinating you have 25 24 seconds and counting down to agree or disagree that pressure what will you well i agree basically Bill and Melinda Gates are extraordinary people when you discuss with them they have done a fantastic job we really have to recognize but on the principle if we speak of governance this is a problem um gene is the the code of life the language of life the nature maybe the god told us the language so we should use that that's my that's my dream


Let's see. Where to start? Okay. There are a lot of homeless people here in Northeast or North West Vermont and We're spread all over the city. So we got together some of us to try to Bring this city attention to the mayor and the governor and and the public and This is only a portion of the homeless people in Burlington I know Three times as many that stay in other places. We won't have anything to do with this public demonstration It's a peaceful thing. We're not trying to hurt anybody, but we want to bring it to the attention of the public and the officials that run this How long have you been a homeless person since 1984 and why are you homeless? I'm disabled. I'm not able to work Oh on a full-time basis and and you can't get an apartment if you're making $80 a week In fact, you can't get an apartment if you're making 200 a week in Burlington And you can stay in places like the way station or the North Street shelter but It's limited and it's it's difficult living anyway I Know for sure last night they were full because I tried to get a room in there I wanted to take a shower and change my clothes Can you describe what the conditions are in the shelters in Burlington? It's Just basically a place to get out of the weather Full of night and they're crowded and they're crowded. They're overcrowded right and and I know The way station holds 40 people and I'm not sure how many North Street holds, but I Know three times that number they're sleeping in boxcars or tents Abandoned cars and are these people local people or do they come from other places majority or local really? Yeah And so what's being done about this to help you absolutely nothing And why not I don't know that's why we're demonstrating we want something done if they You know find us a farm or something or a building that we could inhabit It would be a big help, you know, we don't have the resources some of us are physically impaired some are mentally or emotionally and Some are just Alcoholically And there are a bunch of us though that would take a job if we could get one But when you when you go for a job interview and I say where do you live?  Uh The majority don't say anything you get a few loudmouths. It'll put you down or a few People that help like the food shelf and the way station. They'll help but they can only do so much and The rest you got to do on your own and now the weather happens to be fine today, but if it was raining And we'll get rained on and it's snowing even it's snowed on and if it's Zero you're gonna get cold Okay, thanks, Jean. Thank you. I don't I didn't hear you. Lauren Glenn Nice to meet you portion of the homeless population Really, they see the box cars everywhere over the bank and battery park and Hallways abandoned cars It's amazing. I mean, it's not amazing, but people don't know Yeah, it's the people people should know and Not that you know, some of them are mental cases, you know Waterbury closed down and they give them a check and send them out What's going on out here in City Hall Park well, we're here making a statement. We're homeless people And we're saying that Wellington in the state of Vermont is in a in fact the whole nation is in a crisis situation with its homeless population We're here making a statement not only talking about some of our problems but some of the solutions that we see as well as being one way of alleviating the problem one of those things is a research found for homeless people Where they can be proud of something while they become productive around their individual trips to work cooperatives and found cooperatives The point of fact is that in this nation? We've seen a lot of stuff go down the drain and it's still going down the drain Things like losing 157 pounds every day in the United States last year of a mart loss 10% of our farms This year we're losing an average of one farmer every day The homeless population in Billington is more than tripled in the last year And we believe that minimum wage is the major cause of that Minimum wage we believe should be five dollars and thirty-two cents if it kept up with the rate inflation since 1937 when it became law reality situation is that you could work a full week And at minimum wage earn a hundred and thirty-eight dollars and because the average house in Brillington Average apartment in Brillington is running about four hundred dollars This means you have to take a hundred dollars over your paycheck just for shelter and leave thirty-eight dollars to pay for Taxes and anger counseling fees because you can't afford to feed your kids The reality the situation is that that 36% of this nation's homeless population is veterans We've lost more veterans to suicide if you include single car accidents Then then we lost her in the war itself in Vietnam We're veterans. I'm a veteran We're out to make a scrap of minimum wage being so low But we're also being we're also willing to be more compassionate with the business community than they have been with us We're saying that we want a five dollars and thirty cents minimum wage by 1991 But with a instant Cost of living adjustment on a now so that the inflation rate goes out the business community raises their prices Anticipate in anticipation of us getting more money at least we can still live that's part of the things that we're talking about The other thing is we're talking about is that we believe that Office of Economic Opportunity Has been a total failure it started some 24 years ago under President Lyndon Johnson's great society program the war on poverty In those days homelessness Poverty domestic abuse the rising crime rate the rising violence in our society all of those things We're much smaller than they are today You take homelessness for instance we went from a few hundred thousand homeless in in 1964 to more than three million today with another four to six on the verge of it mainly because of minimum wage We're seeing our mental institutions mainstreaming people onto the streets ill-prepared to survive in the streets Basically they give them a pill and stick them out in the streets And if they don't take their pills they go wacko and and you have all kinds of things going on We're not really taking care of any of our problems, and we're trying to make our government open up and see that We have real problems with our country's priorities And we look at the graph behind me on the on the hill which shows things like housing Health education and low-income housing all easily fitting on the graph But the orange banner that goes across the lawn up there represents military spending And we contend that the only reason why so much money is going into that is because you can't see where It's going and you have to ask ourselves how many lieutenant criminals and above is running around with 30 million dollar Swiss bank accounts The other side of it is we're a little tired of Reagan hood taking from the needy and given to the greedy there's a place there where we're Americans and we are family we do take care of ourselves and We're going to make minimum wage an issue in this next campaign We're veterans and we're declaring war on that minimum wage is outrageously low What kind of response have you gotten to this proposal about minimum wage? Well from the government ages and stuff they're stormwalling us of course we met with the governor yesterday we demonstrate in front of her house She came out for ten minutes, and she really is an expert at manipulating the media. Unfortunately. She came out and she made all her points about visiting with the You know having the the state workers come out and do a survey of our needs Obviously, she thinks that the way to solve our needs is by each one of us Finding out what the needs are and then taking care of us, but that's taking care of this view here That's not taking care of the bulk of the situation now the root causes of the situation And she spent about 10 minutes and said that Sunday was her day for her family Well, she doesn't realize the irony of the situation because she had her family to see but yet most of us are homeless and we don't have families and she said she was taking her son someplace and she was leaving and she definitely implied that That she wish we would leave too We stayed after she left that we made our statements and then we left and we came back here and then last night we was on a radio show for an hour and Did quite a thing and gave a more positive image of what we're doing. Do you feel that this encampment? Has helped the visibility of your issue of the homeless population Well, I certainly hope so the point of fact is that there's anywhere from 18 to 22 people homeless people staying here each night But yet Wellington's emergency stops or the way station has been consistently all but one or two beds full So that means that anywhere from 18 to 20 of us this winner Maybe not us because who gets in the shot its first comes at first serve So who gets in the shelter first is the one that that stays inside for the night But what happens to those other 18 to 20 people, you know What happens to the people that you don't see here like up at Red Rock and up in Milton and up at North Beach and and All over the state. No, not these Kingdom of Earth people's practice families up there this living there's people homeless people all over the state and yet with the the homeless assistant act which was passed by the legislative by Congress last year Was designed to alleviate some of these programs But then when you look at the way the money comes down, this has historically been the problem right along There's all kinds of money coming to those proposal for Chittenden County for instance alone for $400,000 for primary health and substance abuse programs counseling But yet for the entire state for the first year's funding there's only $95,000 and with the two-year funding that's coming down There is no plans for any additional beds anywhere and that's why the law was passed and we think it's outrageous The whole idea of government is to ignore the problem Hope people will go south to someplace else for the winter and that's what's happening all over the country Everybody's following the same idea of ignoring the problem. It'll go someplace else The problem is you have a constant shifting population of homeless people who go from one state to another and find no help anywhere So when you say that the homeless population is tripled since last year Are those Burlington people? Yes the the way station did a survey on the kinds and numbers of people that have been Living in the shelter and they found out that 85 to 90 percent of the people that stay in the shelter come from Vermont One of the other things that we're advocating by the way is that many many rural areas in Vermont is ignoring the problem and they're coming to Burlington at present Burlington is is covering that cost One of the things we're advocating is that the legislative passed a law that says if a homeless person comes from a city in town of Vermont To Burlington or some other emergency shelter that city or town should be responsible for that person's upkeep because the cost per day This is another outrageous thing the cost per day We've heard figures of $50 a day per person per homeless person. That's $350 a week Give me $350 a week. I won't be homeless anymore. That's the truth of that The most of it's because it's going into staff What would you like to see happen immediately? Well, what we'd like to see have happened immediately is One a day center in Burlington so people and I'm not forced to wander the streets all went along look for one place to be The real truth of the matter is living in a homeless shelter like the way station is very difficult You're living with 40 people in one room men and women in one room and there's all of that entails from hacking and coughing to Smelly feet to getting up all night long to go to the bathroom So you leave there ill-prepared to do a day's work the next morning when you have to leave at 8 o'clock in the morning So you'd like a day shelter. What other things we'd like to shade day shelter And we would like to see something done somewhere in the state about more beds All right, we recognize the problem the Burlington sees and that we are attracting people because we do have a shelters Unfortunately the shelters are full and many people come here and they're going to suffer this one up One of the things that we would like to do before November is get that research found So we can siphon off some of the people off the street and out into the country where they can mellow out and take a Look at their lives. How are you going to put together this research for him? Well, we have we have all been discussing it and and all the people here that are camping out here and a good and the rest of the homeless population There are a few people that are inquisitive and and don't quite know They've got burned so many times with different programs that the government has proposed that they don't trust things So we hope that what we're going to do is invite people to come and visit and see what we're doing and see if it's something for them But the place will have no no alcohol no drugs and we're going to be self-supporting We're going to raise our own food and provide our own shelters right there So where's the money for this going to come from? I don't know but I know we got a cause to get it and we're going to do it The people the homeless people in Burlington wanted they want to get off the streets The business community wants is off the street they're constantly shooting is out of their each out of their businesses and buildings and Forcedness to walk around the streets and all they can do is look at us with negative looks and say you're lazy bums The point of fact is you can't live working in Burlington at the rate that they want to pay us My husband and my two children We were living up in Swanton God Had an apartment and then one man we haven't one man. We don't The landlord was going to raise the rent and with the income that we have we just couldn't pull it so For that you went in storage some Little pieces got knick-dacks and stuff got sold And we just packed up and moved into our van Came down this way we started out with Campgrounds first I'm Grand Isle and then then we came down this way and we went to Burlington housing and filled out their blasted papers And they told us that one piece stayed there Take the other two back with you and mail them to Montpelier and wait for an answer And I asked them what kind of an answer and they said well, they'd be put on the list I said what are you talking about put on a list? I said we're out. We have our homeless They said I have children. I said, what are we supposed to do just fill out the form and leave it with us And we'll put you on the list. I said This is unreal. I said so I handed them the paper They laughed at my face when I asked them about putting us in something or someplace because we knew that there's at least 12 to 14 empty apartments and Rory what do they call it down on North Avenue the housing project No, yeah Franklin Square housing down there and she says well, there's no priority I said it's emergency situation. She said we're gonna emergency to us is Even being flood out or burnt out. I said homeless is nothing. They said no that doesn't mean anything So I just handed them the paper and waited around a week later. I get a notice in the mail This is a way we're put on number 63 waiting for Housing for a house of some sort and we're put on for a number 80 on the list for The low-income section 8 part It's this is a bummer is this is unreal they won't they don't want to do anything we Homeless and that's it. We're not a priority. We're not What else you call it? This is the pits. I mean We've had it. We've been in low spots before but not to the point where we couldn't find housing But what our income in the rising of rents you just you can't pull it There's no no way in Hades. You can do it. So you've found other people in the same situation. Yes, we did We were down in North Beach camping out down there and there was around two or three Individuals that were out they couldn't afford housing either. We ran into a couple of families down there with With kids one one family had a four-year-old daughter and I think a little boy is not quite a year But they were they were lucky they they were able to get some help of some sort and found a place the other couple They had a three-year-old boy and a one and a half year old girl And when we left the campgrounds they were still there and we don't know where they went And then we were told later that there's other people all over not just in Burlington There's in Milton and they're all over the place and it's families. It isn't single people. There's like 500 One person said that they found around 500 people that were homeless and three fours of those 500 people were families with kids And they were with young kids not just kids 8 and 14 like I have But kids that were 10 and underneath the age of 10 it makes it it makes that hard all over Dolly Parton here Are you working I'm under incapacitated claim with the welfare department Bad back blood pressure blood disease Marina for one as well is gonna hire me. So I've been on the welfare roll ever since 1979 We bought a truck to do odd jobs with to relieve the pressure with the welfare department and Landlord jacked our run-up on us and I don't know mother told you all that or not But we just just couldn't afford to pull her in anymore So the thing I think one of the things that's most Difficult for the people don't know is that homeless people are regular people? Definitely that they're not indigent crazy People the earth they want to be like nevermind But no these these people are all most of them are square shooters Ed Roger There's few little small minor details here, but the rest of them are all normal people normal people hurting like hate Hades because Just like the sign says minimum wages clearly creating homelessness because the wages are not high enough for anybody to live on them No way you can't you can't pull it So what would you like to see happen as a result of this? Particular action. Do you have any hopes that something's gonna change? No, we can hold But that's all we can do That's about the size of it. You can't We're hoping that it'll wait wake people up To the point that our we are out here There are homeless and it isn't just individuals as families as people that care just normal human beings You never know when you're gonna Run into this one minute you got an apartment or maybe a house or whatever in the next minute You've got nothing but yourselves or each other We're just normal people Trying to survive Makes it it makes it hard. We're hoping that this will just wake people up and And let them know that we're out here. There's not just us. There's others around that are in the same part but they're afraid to Do any of this what we're doing here Because of retaliation of losing something of what they have Or they're just plain shy. They don't know what to do And it makes it hard. It really does we just hope this wakes more people up changes some laws help change some laws And it's not just for the single person because they Families need to stick together and not be pulled apart and this can pull a family apart But we're not gonna let it One point in time. I went way to Right River Junction. They had a hearing board waiting for me and They threw me out of there Guy said you got no off in business being down here Get out. I got a witness to that Friend of mine that lives out in one of the projects He turned around and he went down there with me. He was a means They asked you there to go to the meeting and he says and then the guy meets you at the door And he says he kicks out he had no right to kick you out. I had to go down.  Then he got a complaint because he didn't make it to the meeting Well, you didn't make it to your meeting. There isn't anything we can do for you. Mr. Sears. We didn't hear your side. He said tried to tell you I was kicked out by the guy downstairs And was that doesn't count? You're accuracy your accuracy. So is that your truck up there? Yeah. Yeah Step in. Yeah, that's what mother and I and the kids have been well between the orange tat there. Yeah Right now it's on loan dad. It's on loan dad right now because he didn't have a place to hang his hat and we figured he was Okay, this is a this is a major leaflet we put out it says Demonstration against and camp against homelessness and the low minimum wage And the three things we're mostly concerned about have been low minimum wage which creates homelessness and poverty lack of cooperative halfway houses So people can come to all folks can come back into society And the third item is a research farm run by homeless people and others themselves Out in the country where people can have a home Gardens little houses and things The second issue is very important Was the city of Burlington finance board went down a mo peeler and got No understanding for the commissioner of social welfare Gretchen Morris and the overall Rourke people Apparently Springfield Vermont's having the same thing that Waterbury has turned loose People that are mostly disturbed mentally disturbed.  I mean a pizza galley can Help break the labor union in the state of Vermont here with the 8th governor salmon some years ago and He can then donate five hundred thousand dollars the University of Vermont But you know, that's what we call healthy mental state. So those three points low minimum wage Lack of cooperative halfway houses that the people then to come out of Waterbury end up in the shelters And we've lost to the summer to died this summer. You can't say directly for the shelters But if you're having mental problems And you don't have a bed to go home to at the same bed every night and you may not even have a bed some nights and You have to be out all day forced to be out all day long and you go back that night You might get a bed You certainly don't get the same bed and then you're in one room with 40 out of the people That does strange things to mental people. So they go into their shell further And I said that's one that died two or three couple weeks ago. She had a good chance of at least being Diagnosed properly if she'd been in a stable existence. I had this from medical authorities Then nobody was there to see her every day every day to see that she was down And we all knew she was down and she got a brain tumor by the time they sent her up the hospital She died that was just about two weeks ago So those are the basic points that were involved. We're here to have fun We got this has got to be a civilized country eventually It's not now we got less and probably less than 50% democracy in this country And when a corporation, you know, like our laws every state's got a law says a corporation as a person Well, you know show me a corporation with two legs two arms They don't exist, but every time you and I go to court with a business that says INC They've got all the money of that business behind them opposed to us And they're immortal besides Because the law says they're perpetual and if you can show me an immortal person they might be around but You know, that's so where you're up against it's big business a few rich run the country And we're not being civilized about it like Sweden Denmark Norway Holland West Germany and France Some way we can do this better. Hopefully any questions. Yeah, I'm interested in the homeless community It seems as transient as it may be. It's fairly tight knit. Is that true? Okay? This is an interesting question to say yes I found more friends and better people interesting the real values in life than the homeless community In my own case, I spent three tours overseas that means in Korea Africa once and back in Korea and these are real poor people at that time as before Korea had the boom in the first time in this country I found people that were So aware of other people like third-world people are is the last year that I've been homeless for a year now A year here in a year of this year is a year homeless and being in jail part-time I find the people much more civilized than anybody middle-class or upper-class or book-learned and That we are we support each other or friends, you know, we have our problems and a lot of fricuses, but there's a real it's just it and You know, we're real edgy about people come around we call them wear suits suits are you know people they're not civilized people and word professionals a dirty word and Things like that, but there's a lot of real You'd summon up after your way.  I don't know it comes out of it It's gonna have to come out of the group. We don't have any leaders. We have no spokesperson We're having a meeting tonight. It's our first big public meeting in them Let's let's leave it at that if you come to you know, if you want to get some of the things out of the meeting It's let's leave it to open democracy Do you have anything else you want to add? What do we plug them? Well, let's just say we're in the same this isn't I know some of the homeless people don't agree on this but because But this isn't tied in to what we do overseas Overseas we kill hundreds of thousands and million hundreds of thousands like in Central America now Here it's the same corporations killing tens of thousands tens of thousands Mostly in Boston, New York and the big cities, but they're dying up here, too, and they're dying younger than they should I don't I don't get emotional very often, but I happen to know Sylvia for seven or eight years And she's the one that died two weeks ago Thanks, Roger. Do you want to we do an interview with you? No, I don't want to do any. Okay, thank you Okay, Shirley. Are you part of the encampment? Yes, indeed. Okay Looks like it Ask me questions. I'll tell you okay What's your name? My name is Robert Simpson. Okay, Robert J. Simpson. Yeah, this way Okay, Robert How long have you been homeless? For about seven years. Yeah, and why are you a homeless person? because I'm an alcoholic and And I have had trouble right now. I'm working but I do my best and Because I've had a lot of drug problems Yeah, that's the way it goes With drugs and alcohol. That's the way it ends up. You know, where are you working now right now? I'm working for North Country Landscapers digging holes, you know digging holes and I used to dig Beetles and stuff like that, but now I'm digging holes. It's a real funny thing Why have you joined this encampment? because I believe in a sense that Just to try to help these people out. I really like politically I have a lot of strange political beliefs like I believe I Believe in the contra movement, which is really strange. A lot of people don't believe in that I'm leaning to the right wing and There's a lot of people who can't help themselves that are homeless But there's also I have something to say There's also most of these people in this park can do something for themselves Yeah, I mean, I mean I'm digging holes, right? Anyone of these motherfuckers could get it could get some kind of shovel and shovel and do something You know, I mean I might be 28 years old and doing my my worst my best at times But I'm doing my best right and I have a tent and I live in my tent and I've been living in my tent for years I'm not going to get into my breakup with my wife or anything like that, but I know There's so many jobs around this town. There's no reason for these people to be unemployed What do you think even if they got a job and made minimum wage that they would be able to have a ford to have a home? Course of course and why don't you why don't I I choose to live in the woods? I like I'm waking up in the morning and seeing the Sun You know, that's just the way I am, you know a lot of people I mean homeless folks I mean, I'm sure it towards the end of the You know towards the end of the fall. It's gonna become very cold and I'll have to do something else But as it is right now, you know, you take it day by day that sort of thing They tell you that in a a alcoholics synonymous day by day you live day by day and You work and you make money. I got money You know, so do you and then do you agree with the argument about the minimum wage that Ed put forward? I don't agree on nothing No, my policy is Politically, I know where I stand Policies that's other people to deal with I don't deal with policies. I don't deal with nothing You know, I just live as I live. That's it but I was I have to say to you is There's there is jobs there and minimum wage right now the thing is You can make what's what's minimum wage now what three three 65 or something like that to be 65 355 You sit there and you work 40 hours a week, right? You work 40 hours a week if you're lucky Three at 355 the prices of living are so high that you might as well You might as well, you know, a lot of these a lot of these people would just gave up Because of course, how can you make a living on 355? Really?    They're sitting there on the street and that maybe that's their whole world right there in scope That's their whole world And I've been there and I am there And but I'm doing better.   That's what that's all I got to say really basically Thanks The problem on the park Dig it How long have you been homeless Sam three years Yeah, the homeless person Why am I a homeless person? Well, I had a choice at home. It was either to stay home and be abused Or find out what was outside and didn't have any money or anything. So I came to the streets That's why I'm homeless and what what's it like? What's it like? well first Well until this came along at first it was really scary for me because I didn't know anybody so I got to know people and Well, I feel lonely a lot Or at least I did till I came here really but it's like I felt lonely and I felt like I was fighting alone and nobody cared whether You know about me You know So It was real hard. Oh Do you find the homeless community to be tight-knit? At this point, yeah, I mean we all come together and we're all fighting for it's not just for one one person for themselves but it's all for everybody, you know and You know, we know it's gonna be a hard fight and a few of us may get what we need like I know my needs have been met and as soon as I find a place I will be a Unsectioning and But I can't Turn my back on these people because they're my family more than they've been here for me more than my own family has so Do you think this encampment will have some good results? Yeah, it has I mean we're getting you know attention and Maybe not from the people higher up but from the people we're trying to get right now You know like welfare coming down and talking to us You know we can't expect to take a mile right now ask for a mile to get it, but we're going inch by inch And I think we're getting an inch here maybe two, you know And you were talking before about that you have had several jobs Yeah, I've had several jobs, but due to my emotional disorder, which is post-traumatic stress disorder Which I have because of childhood traumas. I cannot hold them down. I emotionally break down either go into flashbacks of past and I caught right there or I make a mistake and I learned that it was wrong to make a mistake and so Hear my parents You know what they've always said to me in the past about making mistakes and I fall apart You said that you're you have a section 8 housing certificate. Yeah, how long did it take you to get that? It took me Well, I've been out of the streets for three years. So here I am three years later, and I've got it, but it From the time I got SSI I'd say about a year and a half really It's already didn't come from the housing authorities. It came from a street worker You know and she's helped me out a great deal in the past month Do you have anything else you'd like to add about your experience here at the past week? All my experience here. I mean, I think these people are are great. I've never seen a group of people That I mean I've been in the shelters for like three years and I've seen people Just sitting there not knowing what to do getting tired of fighting and all of a sudden More came in and more. I mean he's been absolutely wonderful and he's like a father to me, but it's like We got together because we know if we went to any of the outside people There wasn't much I could do so we got together and decided that One Voice wasn't going to work. We needed all of us. So we're all here and we're all fighting For and away everybody's needs just one particular person's and it's great because you know and everybody here is Dedicated to this dedicated to each other and They're a fun loving group. They really are and we're people just like anybody else and we're trying to get Other people in the outside community and these businesses to see that and that you know, we can't just get up and get a job because You know like child abuse and divorce and all this stuff is an everyday occurrence and it's lost its meaning But for the people it's happened to it's been a tragedy a disaster in their lives that brought him here But right here. They can see we're fighting and we're asking for help if we're told to go halfway and we'll be met Some of us have gone halfway and we weren't met. So we're asking where these people are You know and some few few of them have come out. So we are getting gaining some ground You know and that's quite an accomplishment Thank you. Yeah Go ahead sitting into the Sun like this you want to move is that all right? Yeah, you can move over here Are we all right? Yeah Let me just get back out of there There you go stuff on my eyes Okay Like I said, I have a few more comments to make first people first place people don't realize how easy it is to get on the road to being homeless I'm going to tell you a story.   She died two weeks ago Rest in peace Sylvia the road down Can take many past Some of us turned to alcohol some of us turned to drugs some of us turned to Mental problems and rather than taking and looking at our situation many of us arrived down here on the bottom Through one trauma or another I Had the trauma of losing my family after 23 years They all just up and left at one time. I Discovered afterwards it was because I was unable to find work and when I did find work. I could only get minimum wage This is up in the Northeast Kingdom I became more and more outraged my situation and frustrated my situation Became more and more picky with my family and more my argument with my family Finally my wife was an independent person Decided that she's had enough and she and the kids all took off As she left with a four month old baby. In fact, I have a grandson that's older than my son The way that happens is that you have an older boy Who has a son and then you have a son after him and my son my youngest son is four years old my oldest is 26 today We're making we're really making an issue here because we think that American population is being deceived by our government They're always pretending that they're solving the problem and they send a lot of money down to solve the problem But it always ends up in staff for positions and little goes to the problem itself With we're tired of waiting for government programs to come by to help us But we're asking for is a research firm where we can help ourselves where we can be part of something where we can be Part of our own family if there is such a thing as a homeless family as you've seen today you've seen Young people you've seen veterans like myself. You've seen families Here today that are all homeless and all getting that way For minimum wage and and lack of good-paying jobs I guess that's all I have to say and thank you


Hey guys, Jeremy here, doing a spoiler filled review of The Last Jedi, so be warned, you saw the title and I'm saying it now. I am going to basically reveal the entire movie here and just talk about, more elaborately, my prose with the movie, my several cons with the movie, and just the overall feeling of bafflement that I had after this movie ended. So the film begins with a title scroll that's straight out of Empire Strikes Back, a little bit, kind of very similar. And what we have is, instead of the beginning of the Empire Strikes Back, what we get is actually the beginning of Rogue Squadron 3, when they're evacuating Yavin, because the whole thing takes place in space.  Anyways, all of a sudden Poe comes out of nowhere and blasts all the guns on top of the ship, which admittedly was actually kind of cool, but at the same time he's like, holy shit, one guy just destroyed the entire defense of this ship. This guy clearly bought all of the microtransaction loot boxes, and that's not, there's going to be a lot of Battlefront 2 EA dickhead loot box jokes in this.  They blow up the ship and that's it though. So they then start running.  I don't know, I thought this was, it was at this point when they said that we're being tracked in hyperspace and it wasn't like a traitor. I totally thought there was a traitor mentality and that's what was coming, that's what happens later on with Laura Dern's character. There's this whole idea that there's a traitor and it's not, it's just a device that can track them. That was the first time that I was like, eh, all the while Luke and Rey are on his island, Luke is extremely grumpy, he is completely broken and what we slowly start to get, find out is the truth behind his relationship with Kylo Ren because all the while Rey is trying to convince Luke to come back to the force and come back to the resistance while Luke has totally shut himself off from the force, Kylo and Rey are having this communication. They're able to sort of see each other through the force and it's actually really, that is one of the best parts of the movie is this connection. The connection between Rey and Ren is the best part of the film. They're entitling tanglemen, they're kind of working together to take on their own issues as well as who will break who, who will turn who to what side. As Rey grows stronger, as Ren grows stronger, so does Rey. That is kind of in turn with how they explain that in a sense of how Rey has been so powerful since Force Awakens is that she and Ren are connected in terms of their power. As powerful as he is in the dark side, she is just as powerful in the light side. So then, while that's going on, we go back and the resistance is running from the Empire.    I, I don't know, I thought that part was a little bit ridiculous.  Honestly, I thought she was going to die, but admittedly this is the thing that Rean Johnson does throughout this movie is he takes avenues that you wouldn't expect. He takes them both good and bad and he takes a lot of risks, which admittedly this is probably the most out there, most risky endeavor of a Star Wars film and you'll find that out later as I go through.  Her character is one of the first big problems with the movie. Gee, for some unknown reason, has a plan of that what they're going to do is they're going to run to this planet, this former rebel base and what they're doing is they can't hyperspace obviously because they'll just find them again, right? Which, thinking about it though, considering they're going at it for a few hours, I don't know why they just didn't do a hyperspace jump to the planet itself with everyone in tow because they just unnecessarily drag out the empire to this planet for no reason. I don't know, I thought it was a little, anyways, but so yeah, so that's the plan. Get to this salt planet and make a defense there. Why doesn't she tell anyone? Why is she so secretive?    There's no reason for her being secretive at all. That's the first big problem with the movie. So we go back to Ray and Luke and what we find out is they have different versions of what happened with Ren. We find out that, well from Ren's side, he feels that Luke was going to kill him because he was evil. He was turning to the dark side and he didn't even, like, he was just going to cut him down. Kind of like Mace Windu, going to cut down Palpatine and everything. But what we find out is actually Luke had a thought of doing it. He had a moment's hesitation, but then he decided not to. But the problem was Ren saw him standing above him and his lightsaber and acted in defense and turned to the dark side. So I like that. I like that Luke has so broken that he had the hubris of his legend. That's what he talks about. That's the whole point of this film's ideologies is the hubris of heroes. And the hubris of villains too is we find out what happens later on with Snook. So what later transpires is Luke doesn't care. He doesn't want to fight anymore and Ray basically leaves because that's exactly what Luke did in Empire Strikes Back. And then Luke gets talking with Yoda who burns this ancient Jedi tree that Luke has been kind of caring for for the last little while. And what we see is Yoda who's a ghost who can apparently whack people in the face.  And what happens is Yoda just basically tells him that they weren't page turners. This wasn't the force is the idea of being with like the force isn't a mentality or And what Yoda basically says is that the Jedi are not just a they were flawed but you doing here sitting nothing doesn't add anything and Ray clearly has a purpose and you do too. And I like the conversation between Yoda and Luke. That was awesome.  Absolutely nowhere is an entire waste of time at one point. So they go to the casino planet, they get captured. They find Benekiel Del Toro who's in it. And again, he totally useless character. He's the hacker and what they do is they break out. They go on this really cool, this really visually interesting looking chase with on these weird tauntaun not tauntaun things.  This is just filler. There's no point to this part. There's nothing that's happening here. And I have a feeling the story thread is going to go nowhere.  Story goes nowhere.  First, we got Lord Dern's uselessness. And then we got this Benekiel Del Toro's character of total lack of importance.  That whole part of the story was just pointless. That's exactly what happens with Benekiel Del Toro's character. However, we then go back to the resistance. We find out that they are leaving the ship and so they're starting to leave in these little shuttles. But now actually I got to go back a little bit. Rey goes to the ship and she gets on like this is a funny thing. Rey and Rey and Finn get onto the super snook super destroyer at the exact same time. And we see Snook as we've seen him a little bit in early in this movie.    He's clearly miles away but or like light years away. But he's able to he's that powerful.   And all the while I'm sitting there going, I really want to know more about snook.  And you don't know it because and admittedly, this was a really cool part. I talked about the hubris. This film focuses on the hubris of heroes and villains.  All the while, because he's saying I can see into his mind. I can see his intentions. But the thing is he's not seeing it as clearly as he thinks because he's so full of hubris, because all the while Rey's lightsaber that snook took and put right beside him earlier, Ren turns it, Kylo Ren turns it and he activates it and chops him in half. And admittedly that part was dope. That was so cool. But then again, I thought about it going, how are what? Because I'm thinking about the third film now. What are we going to do for the third film? Because now and then after after Kylo Ren and Rey after Snook's dead, they have this really dope fight with all of his bodyguards. And there's one that's got this whip thing that's that's really cool. There's two dual sides. It was a really cool fight scene. It was a lot better, in my opinion, than The Force Awakens. There was a lot more kind of a brutal, very rogue, very brawl-like mentality to the fight. I thought it was very well done. However, we then see that Kylo Ren tries to make Rey go onto his side. So there's no light, no dark, leave the past, let it die. But Rey can't. So they split a lightsaber in half or something and then Rey escapes. But back into the whole Finn thing, so he's been betrayed.  So what happens is, as all the transport ships that are leaving to the rebel secret base are getting blown up, Laura Dern, after half of the casualties have been inflicted, thinks, huh, I could just turn the ship around and fly it at them. But what she does is actually super awesome. She jumps to light speed and splits the fleet. Literally, she disintegrates the entire first-order ship. She snaps, snooks ship in half. It is such an amazingly visual part because there's no audio. There's no explosions. There's no music. Everyone in the theater, it was just, that was just awestruck. That's the part I say in the movie, in my review, that I dropped my draw. I dropped my draw. That is what happened. And I yelled out, KILLING SPREE!  But anyways, so after that happens, another part comes into my mind going, why haven't they done this before?  No one wants to do a suicide run, but that's what the bomber run was.  You know, you could have droids do it. You could have droids, no sacrifice needed, just put a droid on it. So anyways, that's another part that breaks the movie for me, is just the idea that it was a really visually cool thing to do. But why hasn't no one done it before? Anyways, so then they get to the Salt Planet, which I think is Hoth. And they set up a defense and they're about to fight and the first order has all these weird kind of toy looking ATSTs and the gun from one of Snook's ships. And they fire it at the door.  So they charge at it and a lot of them get killed and Poe realizes, oh, there's no point in sacrificing oneself.  Anyways, Finn continues on and I thought he was actually going to die. Admittedly, this was a part that I was like, whoa, is my boy about to die? And then Rose comes in, smashes his ship and saves him. And then we find out that there's been a love story apparently been brewing between the two. I thought it was super weak. So then Luke somehow appears out of nowhere. All of a sudden he appears out of nowhere and he says hi to Leia and he says, you know, can't save Ren, which some people are a little bit upset about that Luke just outright admits that he cannot save Kylo Ren. But my thing is one, this would have literally just been a repeat of episode three and episode seven because Ren is gone and Luke has to deal with that. It's kind of hilarious because he's dealing in an absolute. But just the idea that Luke has to atone for his mistakes and he realizes what he's done, he realizes what he's done, he's wrong and he needs to do something about it.  And it was like, what? I mean, like another EA joke that he bought all the micro transactions. So none of the damage is mitigated to him. Anyways, so then Ray and Luke kind of fight. But you notice that Luke never makes contact with him. And all the while, the resistance fighters are escaping. They're making their way out of the place. They're getting out of the secret base. And then it turns out that Luke was never there. He was actually just projecting himself from his island, which, again, that was actually really cool. I like that idea. I thought that was a cool idea. And because the movie made it think that, whoa, maybe he actually died when he got blasted by the ATSTs, like he was actually dead the whole time. He knew he was going to die when he went out. So the movie kind of pulls a trick, a fast one on you and you're like, oh, that's sweet. And then Luke sits up on the island. He's exhausted from having done it. He looks up at the sky. He looks at the sun and we see a second son emerge. And then the motherfucker fades. He literally forced Gazzam to death, apparently.   And that's what happens is Luke is dead now. And I don't know, I would have rather preferred him having been blasted to death because while it shows how Luke is has so powerful that for some reason he feels that the story is done, but he's like jumping out halfway through. We now and now going into the ninth movie, we have no one from the original movie series besides Chewie. That's it. Chewie's the only one now because Hans dead.  So the film ends with Kylo Ren in charge of the resistance of the first order, the resistance on the run again. They find out that their allies are nowhere to be seen, by the way. And we now have this weird connection, this connection between Ray and Ren. That was all the while that was all done by Snook, which was a cool idea. Again, so much power, so much hubris, and it was cool to have him die the way he did. But now there's so much that I want to explain. I want to know so much more about who he was. So I bet admittedly some people can say, well, you didn't know what the emperor really was. You kind of saw his face in the second in Epire strikes back. And then we saw him for a bit in Return of the Jedi. So I and we only know of his history through the prequels. So, yes, I understand that there are some people who are going to find my views a little bit hostile. There are some really awesome moments in this movie. There's some really dope moments, but there's so many inconsistencies. Laura Dern's for no reason need for secrecy, the tracking thing, the entire casino story, the whole going to that planet was stupid. Oh, yeah, there is this little part. If any of you didn't see it, one of the kids who they interacted with on the casino planet, they he's goes outside and he force pulls this broom to him. I didn't really see it, but I had I confirmed it with someone. So it kind of shows the film's idea is that the Jedi aren't dead. The last Jedi, because Jedi is plural as well. Jedi is a singular and a plural word, and for at least from what I've seen, because like the last of the like the end of the Jedi, right, the Jedi is not just a person, but it's also the religion, which I see I like. I like that Luke called it a religion. It really harken back to to the old movies. However, they said at one point, Godspeed. That's the first time I've ever heard that. Why did that come from? We've never known of anything of gods or anything. Well, there's been the extended that the legends anyway. Anyways, so like I said, I liked a lot of aspects. I liked Kylo Ren and Rey's their their whole connection. Oh, by the way, we find out her parents were just junkers. They just sold her and they left. That whole mystery of who she was is kind of really a big let down. Now, I thought that that was going to be, I don't know.  And obviously that was something that they wanted to avoid. But I don't know. It was it was kind of like, oh, that that's it. It's kind of like when people put so many fan theories into something and then it turns out to be completely nothing. Anyways, I enjoy parts of the last Jedi, but there's so many parts that I don't care for.  There's a lot of really whoa moments. But then when you think about it, it kind of breaks the movie for you. But anyways, guys, that is my spoiler filled review of the last Jedi. I hope you all enjoyed it. I'm sorry that I have this very harsh opinion of the movie. But honestly, that's just how I feel about it. Guys, I don't know if I'll see it again in theaters. I don't feel like it is the first one. I don't know. I wanted I saw Force Awakens right after I saw World One right after. I don't really have a desire to see the last Jedi again, even though there was great visual effects, there was great battles, there was great music, John Williams is some good music. But it's just, I don't know, there's just so much.  Jeremy Johns even said it best that the Casino planet is a piss break in itself. Anyways, guys, thank you for watching this video. If you like this review, leave a like down below. If you like my content, maybe subscribe. Anyways, that's all for me. I hope you enjoyed this video. See you guys next time.