the Montalier Design Review Committee. I will let members and staff introduce themselves. Eric Gilbertson. Liz Pritchard. Steve Everett. Meredith Crandall, staff. And at this point I'll ask Meredith if she will review the remote meeting procedures. Yup, let me, I'm gonna share screen for anybody watching on ORCA, so that they can log in if they need to. So here's the information for logging in. For those viewing this meeting via ORCA, you can participate in the Design Review Committee meeting via the Zoom platform, using either the video or telephone access options shown here. There's the link. You can call that number. And here's the meeting ID and password. And you can download the full agenda and meeting materials at this link. If you're having any problems accessing the meeting, you can email me here. And further for everybody who's on the Zoom meeting, if you have difficulties accessing different video features, please feel free to use the chat function to reach me. Those chat, you're trying to limit chat to just those technical difficulties at this point. So this meeting is being recorded, as well as streamed live via ORCA media. And turning your video on is optional. Public testimony will be taken verbally. And as I said, the chat function should only be used for troubleshooting or logistics questions. Please keep your microphone on mute when you're not speaking to reduce background noise. And for those participating by phone, star six will allow you to mute or unmute. Also as a host, I can manually mute and unmute most participants. Sometimes it doesn't work, but sometimes I can do it. If you're interested in speaking on a particular matter, particularly if you're not the applicant and we aren't aware of what matter you want to be on, and you didn't say which matter you would like to speak on when you first logged in, please raise your hand either physically or by using the raise hand button on your toolbar if you're on Zoom. For those on phone, you can press star nine to do a raise hand on Zoom. Or you can state your name if you're unmuted. Once the chair is recognized that it's your turn to participate, please unmute your microphone, confirm that you can be heard and provide your full name and address for the record, particularly if you're not listed as an applicant on the application forms. You're then free to provide your questions or comments, aiming to keep your comments to two minutes. Members will then have the opportunity to respond or ask questions of you, and the applicant may have an opportunity to respond as well. So far I think all we have on tonight are applicants. You can't provide additional input after that comment period, but only if the chair recognizes you again. If in the event the public is unable to access this meeting, it will be continued to a time and place certain. If you're having connectivity issues, try turning off your video or closing other applications on your phone or computer. And if you're having trouble seeing the document, screen share options, all, as I said earlier, all files are uploaded to the agendas and minutes page for this meeting on the city website. Please note that all votes taken during this meeting that are not unanimous will be done by roll call vote. I'll now hand this back over to Steve. Okay, unless anybody has anything to add at this point, do I hear a motion to approve the agenda? So moved with the change of moving that first one to the end of the agenda, because nobody's there. All in favor of the agenda, speak your names. Eric. Liz. And Steve. So we'll go ahead and move to the first item, which is seven court street, is anybody there? Right, nobody's logged in for that. Okay. Then we will move to the second item on the agenda, which is for national life insurance. The applicant is Vermont Public Radio for an antenna. Is somebody there to describe the application? Yes, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon, my name is Will Dodge and I'm an attorney with Downs-Rackland Martin, our firm prepared the application for VPR and for national life. And also with me on the phone is Joseph Timecky, who actually it looks like he may have just dropped, but he'll join back on. He is the chief engineer for VPR. And it looks like he's back on. Okay, technology. So very briefly, this is a project that involves trying to improve VPR's overall signal strength and coverage in Washington County and Montpelier specifically. The existing VPR translator facility is basically in an inadequate location at the moment over at the College of Fine Arts. And the idea is to do what most, both telecommunications providers and other broadcasters have done, which is to try to use the height and the location of the national life building specifically the top of it in order to substantially improve that signal for VPR listeners and also for public safety purposes given the sort of emergency broadcast functions that VPR provides to the community. So the project basically involves putting two antennas up on the rooftop. One is a transmit antenna. That's a 17 foot, basically a pipe that has two bays extending from an existing pipe off of the rooftop. So there's basically two antennas on the mount as attached to an existing mount that's right off of the cooling tower. And then the second antenna is a small receive antenna. Basically, it's about seven by five and that is attached to an existing penthouse where there's a number of antennas right now. And if we can show you sort of where some of those are in, with some pictures, but basically apart from those two installations, all of the other operating equipment will be inside the existing washer closet within the building. There'll be cable runs that go along the rooftop. Nothing will take place to the facade of the building. And basically these antennas have been located in such a way that they are as far away from the, if you will, the frontage of the building that you can see from National Life Drive. So the idea is if we don't want it, obviously right on the edge of the rooftop, we want it as far back as possible, but also taking into account where other antennas are located on that building today, like the city of Montpelier, as well as some of the other, there's a couple of other communications facilities up there. So that gives you some idea. We've looked at other possible options technologically speaking for the antenna design, but this is really what's needed in order to maximize the signal. There's not an easy way of replicating this so you truly need that height off the building. I think we have some of the simulations to show you, but essentially for the public who will be viewing the, or who can see the rooftop of the building from National Life Drive, it'll really be imperceptible unless you're looking for it very closely. I don't know if it makes sense to sort of answer any preliminary questions or if we should be going through the actual design review criteria or how best to proceed. There are lots of antennas and stuff mounted up there, veritable forest of them. That's correct. And I think the reasons for that are fairly obvious, right? It is at a very high point within sort of Montpelier's overall geography, both in terms of where people are, where roads are. It's not visible from the capital dome, which is a criteria in your design review. And it's not a tower. In other words, that building rooftop as large as it is, as tall as it is, is an ideal place to basically put antennas so that you don't have to build new support structures. And that's what we wanted to do here both because it works and because it's essentially innocuous and because the National Life folks very graciously allowed us to do this. We're working closely with them and they are supportive of the project. Let me know if anybody wants me to pull up a part of the application, because I can easily do that. I read through it and I really don't have any questions. I don't really either. Maybe just a visual simulation from National Life Drive. Like it's good to look at. Yeah, so I can, oh, you've got that, Meredith? All right, so this is from the actual where you would be in a car. And it's right over there. Yeah, yeah. The second page where you get an actual closer shot of it. So that's already there. And then this is the new. The new one, yeah. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. And even that zoom picture is a little bit exaggerated in the sense that, you know, it's location. You can see that it almost looks like there's something white next to each of the FMBs. That's more just a function of the simulation technology, but really, it'll be almost imperceptible. The Christmas ornament, as we call it, that flagpole that has the lights on it, that's basically turned on during the holiday season. That's gonna be what people continue to notice when it's on it. The VPR antenna won't be lit, so it won't be like there's a blinking light or anything like that. There's no FAA requirement to do any lighting here. Eric, what color are you gonna paint it? I think the antenna itself is basically just gonna be the galvanized, same kind of stainless steel finish that you see for the flagpole. So no painting or anything like that. Yeah, the gray galvanized look, that's good. Thank you. Matches the skies when we have California smoke. Let's hope it doesn't get here too soon, but we shouldn't be fooling ourselves. Any other committee members have any other questions, comments, or suggestions? Any other suggestions or comments? If not, I can go through the criteria. There are two sheets here. One involves all projects. One is regarding exterior design and materials of new construction or alterations of existing buildings. The antennas are compatible, that's acceptable. Existing buildings recognized as a physical record time and place. The, again, new construction addition alterations are fine in this location. Proposed landscaping is not applicable. Location of parents of all utilities shall be cited to minimize adverse visual impact. This is acceptable. Alterations to buildings called for by public safety is not applicable. It says development shall be designed to respect views of the Statehouse Dome. This does not affect Statehouse Dome views for parcels with both river and street frontage. This does not apply. Height, height of the building and additions, sign in this location, proportion is fine. It has to do with roof shape and equipment, acceptable architectural features. This would not be applicable. Roof drainage systems, not applicable. Signage, does not apply here. Up for lighting fixtures, not applicable. Landscaping, screening and site furnishings. Other than down at the bottom, it says mechanical equipment. We'll call that acceptable. And for this particular sheet for all projects, do I hear, let the committee members speak if they approve the application for these features? Eric says yes. This says yes. And Steve says yes. So this one is approved. And there's also another sheet which we have to go through which says projects that do not involve an historic building supplied with this. There's several categories that could apply here. A scale in massing does not apply. New development, we'll call that acceptable since it's a new addition to an existing building. Orientation, I'll say that's acceptable. And the placement of the antennas, height. Again, this has to do with height of a new building. So I'll call that not applicable. It's not a new building. Proportion, not applicable. Rhythm, not applicable. Continuity, not applicable for this application. Materials, we'll say they're acceptable. Riffs and equipment and fixtures acceptable. Architectural features are not affected by this so that'll be not applicable. Context and connectivity. We'll just say that's acceptable because we're adding components to the building and accessory buildings and structures. This is not an accessory building. So again, all in favor of the application based on those criteria, speak your names. Eric says yes. It is, yes. And Steve says yes. Thank you all very much. The application is acceptable. Thank you very much for coming before us. Thank you very much. Thank you for your time today. You bet. Good luck with your other business tonight. Thank you. We'll see you in a couple of weeks for DRB. Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks. We can go forward with the next application is for 39 Main Street, the city of Montpelier regarding roof replacement. Hi, everyone. My name is Cameron Niedermeyer. I am the assistant city manager and I'll be representing this project today. Thank you all for letting me be here. Chair, do you want me to go over the project? Sure, just give us a summary of what's being changed. So the scope of services is to remove all existing asphalt shingles from the existing decking. They will then be installing ice and watershed underlay. Then they will be going over it with a very specific item. They're going over with a 24 gauge, double locked standing seam metal roofing system in charcoal gray. So to put that in sort of a more normal speech, it's a galvanized steel slate gray roof that's replacing the asphalt shingles. We're in pretty bad disrepair and pulling off the roof. And that is really everything they're doing. So it's the part of the roof that you can't see from the ground. So our roof kind of comes in two different sections, one section on the sides, and then the rest of the flatter part of the roof. So we're replacing that, which was shingled before. Is the membrane being replaced on that portion? Yes, the membrane is the ice and watershed underlayment. And then they're also installing a layer of synthetic underlayment. Right, under the metal. Is the upper portion being replaced with new membrane or is that an existing in good shape? I believe that it's anything that was in bad shape, because it says the contract says in all critical areas and then in any remaining areas. So I guess they'll, I'm sorry, to be fair to myself in not doing this, the contractor is not here today. So this, it says tie into existing membrane roofing system to make a watertight seal. I think they're just going over anything that they didn't critical. And then anything that doesn't have is not critical is getting one layer of synthetic underlayment, so two, and they're tying that all into the existing membrane roofing systems. Okay, thank you. Any committee members have any questions? Again, questions, comments or suggestions regarding the proposal? Same straightforward to me. Yeah, I don't know where you can see that part of the roof from. And they're matching, they're going back to the color of the shingles, the original slates that were on there. And I don't have any problem with it. No, I don't either. Okay, then again, I'll go forward with the criteria, exterior design and materials of new construction alterations, acceptable. Existing buildings are recognized as physical record of time and place, acceptable. Proposed landscaping, not applicable. Location and appearance of all utilities, nothing's being changed in that aspect. Alterations to buildings called forward by public safety, accessibility fire codes not applicable in this change. Respect for views of the state house dome, not affected, they're fine. For parcels with street frontage, orientation of and materials, the quality of materials is fine. Out of the building, that's not being changed. Proportion, proportion is fine, rhythm is fine. It is an architectural feature and it's acceptable roof shape and equipment, acceptable. Architectural features. And again, it talks about character defining detailing, that's acceptable. Roof drainage systems, not applicable here. There's no change into any drainage systems. Signage, not applicable. Outdoor lighting, not applicable. Landscaping screening and site furnishings. Not applicable. So for the all projects form, do I hear a vote of approval by members by speaking your name? Eric says yes. Liz says yes. And Steve says yes. And then the second form is for additions and alterations to historic buildings. Generally applicable character defining features, acceptable. Rhythm, acceptable. Site features would not be applicable for the roof application. Materials, acceptable. Roof shape, acceptable. Architectural features, acceptable. Windows and doors, not applicable. Porches and stairs, not applicable. So all in favor of the criteria for additions and alterations, speak your names. Eric says yes. Liz says yes. And Steve says yes. So the application is approved. Thank you very much. I appreciate you all very much. Thank you for coming and explaining the application. Well, this is administrative so this will get out in the next couple of days. Thank you. I hope you guys have a good rest of your week. Thank you very much. And we can move on to the next application which is for 90 Main Street. It's the bank building, TD Bank on the corner. Is there anyone there to explain the project? Can everyone hear me? Yes. Yes, yes. Okay, this is Tiffany with One Stop Signs. I'm representing TD Bank today. So basically what we're doing is there is two non-illuminated wall signs here and they are just changing the faces. No sizes will change. They will still stay non-illuminated. They're pretty much going from the darker green to a lighter green and removing the bank off of the signs. So pretty simple. Hold on, I'm trying to share. There we go. Can people see that? Yes. Again, like the other application for the other location, was there any reason they left the sign the same length where there's much less lettering involved? They did not specify why they are doing that. Okay. And one other question. There is an overhanging sign at the entrance. It says TD Bank. Will that stay as is? Yes, that one will stay the exact same. No changes on that one. Okay. Will the coloring of that change to match the coloring on the other two? No, I believe they're keeping that one just as it is. Okay. I'm glad at least one sign says bank on it. Perfect. Do any of the committee members have any questions, comments or suggestions at this point? What does TD stand for? Turbo D. Dominion. What? Toronto Dominion. I think it's for turbo diesel. That would be TDI. Okay. If nobody has any other comments, we've approved one of these for the other locations so we can go through the criteria on the all projects and the sign forms. Exterior design and materials, acceptable. No changes that affect the character of the existing building, acceptable. No proposed landscaping in this application. Location and appearance of all utilities, mechanical equipment, et cetera, not applicable here. Alterations due to public safety accessibility, not applicable. It does not change views of the state house dome and the street front facade primary is acceptable. Part of the building does not apply here. Proportion does not apply of the building itself does not apply here. Rhythm, architectural details in any additions on the outside, that's acceptable. Roof shape and equipment, not applicable. Architectural features, we'll call that acceptable with the signs, roof drainage systems, not applicable. Signage has to do with removing a sign. So there's none removed here. They're just, they're changed, but it's not removed and left blank. Outdoor lighting, not applicable. And then landscaping, screening and site furnishings, not applicable. So all in favor for the all projects form, speak your names. Eric says yes. This says yes. And Steve says yes. And there's also a sign form. One has to do with size, location, design, color, texture, lighting and materials. She'll be compatible with the building and other structures, acceptable. It's in the sign ban, that's acceptable. Placement is acceptable. There is a sign placement over the entry, that's acceptable. Sign installation minimizes damage to character, that's fine. Fasteners are in mortar joints or in acceptable fenestrations in this particular sign since it's just replacing an existing sign of the same size. Sign design, color, typography, respect, historic presidents. Support structures are compatible with the building architecture. There's no lighting on the, actually is, there may be lighting over the existing sign, but that's remaining anyway, so that's acceptable. And again, lighting over the existing entry sign, if there's any lighting there, that's already there and existing. So based on those criteria, again, committee members speak your approval. Eric says yes. This says yes. And Steve says yes. So the application is approved. Thank you very much, I appreciate it. Thank you for coming before the committee. Thank you very much. Have we heard from anyone regarding Court Street? Yes, we actually, it looks like we have both Alan and Shoshana, if you guys could both unmute yourselves and I think, Alan, did you call in? You can use, I think it's star nine to unmute yourself.  Hold on. Sorry, star six. Star six should let you unmute yourself, Alan. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm sorry, I gave you the wrong direction at the beginning. Oh, sorry, we're a little late getting to this little meeting. That's okay, you made it in time. So yeah, you're the last application that we've got to deal with. Well, thank you so much for getting us on the agenda. You're welcome.  Thank you. Well, thank you. It's the exact same size, same location. We would just like to change the color from the maroon to a black. And instead of saying the bar in our building, which is Barrett Martin, just seven court street. And those are the only changes other than that would be the same size, same lettering, and as the users come and go. Will the circular seven number be removed? Yes. Yes. Okay. I apologize if you don't have something in front of you. I'm not sure what you've got. But it would just say seven court street and it would be in capitals. Okay. No, it's fine. It showed as an overlay and the circular seven, the upper portion of the circular seven was still showing. And we assumed it would be moved, but just wanted to verify it. And also there is an existing sign, must have been from the state years ago that says seven court street in the front. Along court street, that's what we thought. It would make a nice, it would be uniform and look good together. Yeah, I don't have a picture of that one out front, but I've seen it with that seven court street, with that same font. That classic state sign looks like it's wood where they do like a carving of the letters and they paint it in white. If anybody wants me to, I can pull that up on probably a Google Maps or something, but I'm not sure it's needed. I don't know. Sure. I have the same kind of sign over at the Redstone building that says 26 Terrace Street. You know, it's that classic state sign. It's that router font. It's routed. Yeah. That classical look. And again, I don't put my name on any building as you may have noticed over the years. That's why we just thought seven court street fit it well. And when you talk with people, they don't know it as the bar market building, but they do know it as seven court. Any of the committee members have any comments, questions or suggestions regarding the sign? No. No. No. Okay, then I can go through the criteria for this one. The all projects criteria exterior design and materials acceptable. The change in sign will say is acceptable for recognizing the physical record of time, place and use. Proposed landscaping, none proposed in this application. Location on appearance of utilities, mechanical equipment, not applicable. Alterations for public safety, accessibility, not applicable. Does not affect any views of the state house dome for parcels with street frontage, orientation, materials are acceptable. Height of the building is not applicable here. Proportion of the building not applicable, not changed by the change in sign. We'll say rhythm is acceptable with the placement of the sign. Roof shape and equipment not applicable. Architectural features not applicable as far as the sign goes. Roof drainage not applicable. Signage, this talk again, the signage criteria regarding removing a sign and not replacing it, not applicable here. Outdoor lighting not applicable. Landscapes, cleaning and site furnishings not applicable. All in favor based on those criteria, speak your name. Eric says yes. Liz says yes. And Steve says yes. And there's also our criteria sheet for signs. Size, location, design, color, texture, lighting and material are acceptable. The signs show respect to the original sign placement. If the building has multiple tenants, there's consistency because everyone, all the tenants would be listed on this particular sign. The sign placement is acceptable. The installation minimizes damage to the character defining materials of the building. The fasteners are in the mortar joints, which would be where the existing sign is located. This sign, design, color and typography respect historic precedence. The sign support structures. Again, this is attached directly to the building and it's acceptable. Lighting fixtures not applicable. The sign doesn't have any lighting or there's no change in lighting. And so again, there's no lighting either exterior or on the building itself. So again, all in favor of the application, speak your names. Eric says yes. Liz says yes. And Steve says yes. I do have a question. Not involving the application, but Eric, this is probably for you. If they add tenants, they don't have to come to design review, do they? No. Good. Thank you. Thank you, Allen. Thank you. Thank you, commissioners. Have a good night. Okay. Thanks again. To. Stay safe, everybody. Okay. You too. I have committee members had a chance to look over the minutes. We don't actually have enough people to approve them. Yes. We'll have to wait till Martha comes back. Yep. I have one thing I'd like to bring up, Steve. Okay. I'll just go ahead. And that's that the historic preservation commission is in the process of figuring out what guidelines or pamphlets or whatever we're going to do. And I would certainly like some input from the design review committee of what they might think might be the most useful one to start with. There's probably going to be a series and. Yeah, I mean, we're going to, there's going to be something that's very similar to the old cityscapes. And the, you know, the question is, I mean, the old cityscapes, there's a couple of different versions of them. And so we're probably going to need to prioritize certain aspects of these new design review regulations to create guidelines for. And we're thinking about something similar to the Shelburne guidelines. So I'll be sending around a link to the design review committee members with some links of some examples of things to look at. And so your thoughts on where to focus HBC's efforts, at least especially for the first get-go and the first grant runs and consultants. We're going to apply for a grant to do it. I don't know when the deadline is. I can't remember. I want to say it's December. December, I think, yeah. But we've got to run it through any grants through the city process. So we just like to have a good idea of what we want to apply for and be very clear about it. And so look for those emails from me. We're all sensing around and use, you know, take those and look at the new design review regulations. We do have copies of those in our office. If you can come by and pick them up or we can mail them if you need us to mail them to you, if that works better. That would be really helpful. And in particular, given the whole climate change movement, I would love to see some of the regulations as far as adapting historic buildings to make them energy efficient for future use and efficiency. Well, and that's these new design review regulations anticipate that so that there are changes to certain things like adding heat exchange systems, depending on where you install the equipment. Sometimes it's completely exempt from design review or it's an administrative review process and it doesn't have to go to design review depending on what face of the building it's on. So those things have been anticipated in these new regulations. Good. We're trying. Again, it would be really helpful to see what other communities have done is everybody's starting to look at approaches to solving some of these issues. Yep. Well, so at this point, I mean, we have the regulations so now we need to get the illustrated guidelines that help applicants and help the design review committee implement them and administer them. So your thoughts on what, if you go through the regulations and there are parts you just don't understand what it means, those are things where we definitely wanna focus and make sure that the guidelines explicitly lay out what should be being looked at. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. Does anybody else have anything to add?  I think the only other thing is to anybody who's out there listening, we do have, it looks like we're gonna have two vacant design review committee seats, one alternate, one regular. So if anybody is interested and lives in Montpelier, please reach out to me, reach out to the planning department because we would like to get your applications in and get you attending meetings. If there's nothing else, do I hear a motion to adjourn? Of course. Second now. And I'm assuming that's a motion to adjourn. Yes. Do I hear a second? I'll second that. All in favor, speak your names. Liz says yes. Eric. And Steve says yes. So meeting is adjourned. Thank you all.


From Hollywood, it's time now for Johnny dollar Hi, did you check on dr. Shepherd? Yeah Well, that's up to you, mr. Porter. Dr. Shepherd's life has been threatened That's according to him and the man who threatened his life has definite homicidal tendencies also according to dr. Shepherd Porter, I think dr. Shepherd's a liar Tonight and every weekday night Bob Bailey and the transcribed adventures of the man with the action-packed expense account America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator cause truly Johnny dollar Expense accounts submitted by special investigator Johnny dollar to Richard Porter 480 Webster Boulevard Providence, Rhode Island The following is an accounting of expenditures during my investigation of the shepherd matter More expenses item 326 cents one bottle of aspirin for mr. Porter. I felt he was going to need it I hope you aren't trying to be funny, mr. Dollar. I'm not mr. Porter I think you've got a tough decision to make I I know that the commission on $80,000 worth of insurance would be high Sit down. Oh, thanks Mr. Porter dr. Shepherd told me he bought or tried to buy all that insurance because he thought a man named Forbes was going to kill him He bought it. He said to make certain his mother is well-provided for He was carrying a 32 colt Now he spoke of treating Forbes's wife and of advising her that divorce would settle her health problem Mr. Forbes didn't like that and accused shepherd of trying to wreck his home and well, that's about it Now what have we got?  I don't know I Do know I believed about one half of what he told me maybe less what reason would he have to lie? It's me if someone threatened your life or mine we'd turn to the police for help Now shepherd won't do that Insist that it would probably be hazardous in the case of his patient mrs. Forbes I don't want to write up this policy of what he says is true, but I don't want to pass up the commission if it isn't true Can you stick around town for another day or two and find out about it? I'll do what I can mr. Porter Go ahead have an aspirin He had an aspirin and I had a car ride once again out to the offices of dr. Shepherd the same things are more or less going on in the same way his nurse mistreat her appeared as distraught as ever Once she recognized me there was a quick dabbing at the eyes a straightening of the hair before she spoke Good morning, mr. Dollar. Hello. I'd like to see the doctor again. He was calling mr.  No, that's his business In other words, I should mind my business. Well, I'm being honest. I've advised him what to do on the matter What matter he'll have to explain that to you mistreat her. It doesn't make much sense to me You can go back now. Okay, thanks Hello, mr. Dollar. Hello, dr. You were pretty insulting yesterday. I'm sorry about that But we both have a problem to solve and I get paid sometimes for deliberately insulting people You're a stranger you want to change your story about all this I wish I could change it. It's still a mess a bad mess I thought it all out last night, and I still must hold to my original thinking I have to place my concern for my patient mrs.  No, and you're very stubborn about that part I don't think you comprehend the situation at all. Look, wait a minute. Let's understand each other doctor If this man Forbes is all you say he is and you say you're the expert on homicidal tendencies Then the best thing for you to do is to prefer charges against him for threatening your life and have him locked up Now you could do that according to what you've told me about mrs. Forbes and a servant in their home witnessing his threats I will try to explain again. I can't do that for mrs. Forbes sake. I just can't She's been through a shattering ordeal. I must attempt to resolve this quietly I'm true. I can generally anticipate a man's actions inside my office under clinical conditions, but I Well Forbes is different. That's why I tried to contact you today Someone like you could approach Forbes and possibly persuade him to discard his ideas of violence Probably do it in a quiet way too What does mr. Porter pay you well? What's that got to do with it? I'm willing to pay you I mean you and I don't seem to get along very well, but I foam porter and he tells me you're one of the best men in your line of business I'll pay you to go to paul forbs and talk to him as I've described I can't figure you doctor now let you and I not get into any personality arguments Will you do this for me for your regular fee? I was going to do it anyhow for mr. Porter and the fee He pays me. I just wanted to check you first I'll do it, but I still think it's a matter for the police. All right. Let's leave it this way You go talk to Forbes if you think he means to kill me Then I'll call the police and prefer charges against him patient or no patient. How's that? That sounds a little more sensible doctor I took down the home address of paul forbs and climbed to my rented car and drove over to his home in the gilded edge of the city A story and a half colonial with all the termings lawns trees plimoth convertible a push button station wagon in the garage It was a nice warm spring day and some flowers were blooming and smelling up the area in a very nice way flies buzzed Bees drawn birds sang And I went up and pressed the doorbell I should have gone butterfly catching or taken a plane to spoke can Yeah, I'm looking for paul forbs. Does he live here? Yeah, he sure does. I'm forbs. Mr. Forbs My name is johnny dollar.  I twisted around trying to see what it was all about And then I managed to get to my feet and time to see paul forbs plunging the plummet out the driveway and heading I don't know where Good goodness, what happened here? Where's mr. Forbes? You heard? Oh miss Forbes miss Forbes Oh, let me help you sir. Yeah, give me y'all. We'd better sit you down over here. Okay. Oh my goodness Goodness gracious. How did this happen? Mr. Forbes swung a gun at me. Oh, no, sir. No, sir. Oh, no, sir. No easy, sir Easy, let's sit down here What happened here, I'm afraid mr. Forbes attacked this gentleman miss Forbes call the doctor Then go to my medicine chest and get some swabs and a pan of cold water Wait, the doctor isn't necessary. It just made me dizzy. You're cut. It might be deep Well, get the first aid things and some brandy up and right away. This is unforgivable. Just unforgivable contact Please. I don't know who you are. Are you friend of paul? No, I'm johnny dollar I wanted to discuss with your husband and something I I take it you're a mrs. Forbes. Yes Oh Right here. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am You feeling a little better, sir. I don't know yet Hey, let me try some of that. Yeah, certainly sir. Certainly There we go, sir Easy now easy Thanks How does it look to you upton? Well, I believe it's not too deep mrs. Forbes How's it feel mr. Dollar? I don't think it's very deep. I'll be all right in a minute Upton go telephone doctor ship it and tell him to come over here immediately. Yes, ma'am Mr. Dollar, I can't tell you how sorry I am for this you You can bring suit against us. You can do anything you want to mr. Dollar Paul's temper is just ungovernable these days. He could have killed you He took the car and ran. Yeah I don't know what's gotten into it Two nights ago. He attacked my personal position Trying to kill him and now he's attacked you for no reason at all any idea where he might have gone Heaven only knows Mad That's what he is mr. Dollar.  Forbes or johnny dollar I still know sir I guess you kind of fainted a little bit Is there anything I can get you sir? No, no, just tell me about mr. Forbes I beg your pardon sir. Look, I'm an insurance investigator. I came here today to talk to mr. Forbes about threatening dr. Shepherd's life Oh Well, I I wouldn't want to talk out of turn. So you you'd better discuss that with mr. Forbes Now just one question did mr. Forbes threatened dr. Shepherd's life Yes, sir. You heard him. I did sir He attacked a dr. Shepherd here two nights ago. Did he also attack mr. Forbes? Mr. Dollar This is an unhappy house Things have gone all wrong here the last few months mr. Forbes changed mr. Forbes Oh, I don't know I But please don't ask me to speak up against anyone. I'm just trying to find out the best thing to do for everybody concerned What can you do sir? Well, I didn't think anything like this Terrible this about that was it now. I want you to go up your room and lie down There's no sense in you're getting any more excited. I want to see about mr. Dollar first. Oh, good morning, dr. Hello after Let's have a look at this dollar get that line. Yes, sir How is it? Well, I don't think it's anything worse than a cut How do you feel darling? Oh and as for it might straighten me out. I hope so Yes, I'll get some Dollar I should have taken your advice yesterday. I'm going to take it now I'm going to call the police and have this man arrested. He might kill somebody next time. Yeah, am I all right?  What will they do to paul? They'll take him into custody and probably talk some sense to him. This is awful.  Forbes We'll handle this Oh up to take mrs. Forbes upstairs. Yes, you just come along Thank you She is not a well woman. She looks all right to me. I wish she were I don't want to get an x-ray on that head. Can you come by the office this afternoon? Yeah, I guess Give me the police I doubt if it's concussion or anything like that, but it's best to play safe You're a safe player all the time. Aren't you doctor? What does that mean? I don't know. Now look here. I'm not good.  I My name is shepherd. Dr. Charles shepherd When I left him he was reporting paul forbs to the police He gave them Forbes description and the license number of the Plymouth Forbes was driving I didn't stay beyond that Maybe I should have Maybe I should never have left that house I'm not sure but If I hadn't left I might have saved a life Here's our star to tell you about tomorrow's intriguing episode of this week's story tomorrow Well, the big lie is as true as little green apples Join us, won't you when I bite into one and spit out a bullet yours truly Johnny dollar yours truly johnny dollar starring bob bailey is transcribed in hollywood Written by john dawson. It is produced and directed by jack john stone Be sure to join us tomorrow night same time and station for the next exciting episode of Yours truly johnny dollar Roy roan speaking


This is stock number 9277, a 2013 Ford F-150 Super Cruise Short Box. We are here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin checking out this Super Clean 2013 F-150. From this HD video you'll be able to tell that for the age of miles on this truck. It's in really nice condition. No dents or dings in the front bumper. Factory fog lights. Oxford white is the color. Continental Kana Track tires that have probably about 75% of the tread left. They are on the factory alloy rims. These are 18 inch rims with the chrome covers. And the size on these is LT275-65R18 tires. We shoot all of our videos in 1080p so if you have HD capabilities on your computer tablet or smartphone device turn them on now because it's like you're right here looking at the truck with me. Passengers side rim. No dents or no scuffs or scrapes on that. And that tire has just as much tread as the driver's side. As you go down this side of the truck, body is very clean on it. You can see any major dents or dings. Has the chrome tipped exhaust. Back rim is in excellent condition as well. And the back tires have just as much tread as the front tires. See the frame and under body. It's in really nice condition. It's like that all the way underneath. Has factory chrome step bars. Box is in excellent shape. Rear bumper is in very nice shape as well. No dents or dings on that. It does have the four pin and seven pin wiring. Tailgate is in really nice shape as well. No major dents or dings on that. And it does have a penda liner drop-in bed liner. That's in really nice shape as well. Tailgate shuts nice and solidly. It is a locking tailgate. And down this side of the truck. Really nice condition as well. This one does have the capless fuel fill which is a really nice feature. Driver's side door code entry. We do have the code for that so don't worry about that. Factory chrome step bars on this side as well. Inside the XLT package gives you the gray cloth interior. No rips or tears on the seats. Pretty good wear on them. As far as having 97,000 miles on it. Factory floor mats throughout. Carpeting is nice and clean underneath. This one has automatic headlamps and power pedals. Power windows and power locks and power mirrors. Inside you can see that this truck has 97,586 miles. Has the radio right there. AM, FM and satellite radio capabilities on it. Have your climate control right there. This one does have sync so that you can connect it to your Bluetooth cell phone device or Bluetooth device to play music. You got audio and Bluetooth controls on that side and you have your cruise controls on that side. Headliners in really nice condition. Pass and receipt. No rips or tears on that either. And that floor mat on that side and carpeting is in nice condition as well. Take a quick look at the back seats and then we will check out under the hood. Crew cab gives you a lot of room back here. No rips or tears in the seats back here. It does have the latch child safety system. Seats are in really nice condition. They do fold up four extra storage. You can see it has factory floor mats. The carpeting is in pretty nice condition back here as well. No rips or tears. Power mirrors with the built-in directional signals and the blind spot mirrors. Under the hood we have the 3.5 liter V6 EcoBoost motor. Twin turbo. Pump cell right around 365 horsepower. Engine bay is very clean, runs very smooth. This truck has been fully safety and inspected by our service shop. Has a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and tapped off. And this truck is 100% ready to go. And to see more pictures of this truck or one of our other 400 new and used cars, trucks, SUVs, minivans, Wranglers, you name it, we got it.  Videos of every single used vehicle that we have. All at summitauto.com. Thanks for checking out the video.  Ask for one of our sales associates to make this truck yours today. Once again that number is<PHONE_NUMBER>. Thanks again for checking out the video. If you want to check out more go to youtube.com slash summit auto. Remember to like, subscribe and share on those videos. In fact in a second you'll see a subscribe button on your left. A link to more half ton truck videos like this one on your right. And if you haven't been to our website on the bottom link to this truck on our website. Check those out and we look forward to helping you out with this super clean 2013 Ford F-150 SuperCrew XLT. Thanks again.


Aloha. Thanks for your consideration of the views expressed in this ThinkTech commentary, which we are calling Great American Scams, Automatic Software Subscription Renewals. The subject we will cover is how software vendors, after insisting on subscriptions for the licensing of their software, have adopted and abused automatic renewal systems. The problem is people don't read the fine print, which includes provisions that may allow vendors to automatically renew software subscriptions on an annual basis without reasonable notice to us, using the credit information we provided at the outset. And then to refuse to terminate those subscriptions after we find that they have charged us without such notice or permission. If you didn't know it, the business model and install statistics of many software vendors is built all around automatic renewals that people don't need or want. We should all be concerned. The fine print and these automatic renewal practices are getting more sophisticated, more aggressive, and more widespread all the time. There are many reasons to be concerned. It takes money out of the pockets of people who really can't afford to get tricked this way. It wastes the time of customers who attempt to dispute those tricks. It encourages software practices and quality that are below standard. And it puts a black eye on the credibility of the software industry. In a tech world, we all need to keep up with new software. On the other hand, these predatory practices are a risk to everyone. As a result, consumer and business software is increasingly being developed by competent and perhaps more ethical developers outside the US. Yes, there are some things we can do about it. We can read the fine print, of course, we can contest the inappropriate renewals with them and with our credit card companies and banks. We can never ever buy or subscribe to software from any company that engages in these practices. Here's the takeaway. Practices like these automatic subscription renewals should be better regulated by the government, including the Federal Trade Commission at the federal level and consumer protection organizations at the state level.  Thanks for your consideration of the views expressed in this ThinkTech commentary, which we are calling Great American Scams, Automatic Software Subscription Renewals, Aloha.


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President Barack Obama addressed the nation after the Washington Navy Yard shooting September 16th. To all at the Navy Yard who've been touched by this tragedy, we thank them for their service. We stand with the families of those who've been harmed. They're going to need our love and support. If you have been affected, there is help available. A brief counselor is available now in counseling as we go forward to make sure that the trauma associated with this will be dealt with appropriately. The Navy Chaplain Corps has resources available to you. Call 1-800-222-0364 to find out how you can get counseling. From the Defense Media Activity, I'm Petty Officer Jonathan Pankoff.


Hi guys, welcome back to my channel, Apples NTRS. So today I wanted to do a video that has been requested a couple of times in my comments and is on my list of summer projects. And that is my class dojo video. I am gonna have some visitors throughout the video and hopefully they're not too distracting. But I wanted to give you guys a little bit of insight about my experience with class dojo, how I use it, how I'm switching it up this year and just a little bit more information about class dojo for those of you that don't know a lot about it. Also, I apologize in advance for the ring thing on my glasses. My ring light is here because the lighting in this room is really bad. That's a little bit better. Okay, so the very first thing that I wanted to mention about class dojo is why I use it.  I'm a person that will forget to make phone calls, that will forget to do emails and using class dojo as a form of communication between parent and teacher is amazing. I can text a parent directly when a problem has occurred and they will get that note automatically. A parent can text me or message me on dojo and ask a question about homework or ask a question about procedures or rules or anything of that nature and I can respond right away. So it gives immediate communication between parents and teachers. I also love how it gives immediate feedback. Okay, you guys can't be grooming each other during the whole video, okay? You can join mommy but you have to sit still. It gives students immediate feedback on their behavior whether it's positive or negative and it also reports this behavior to parents immediately. If they're signed up. The only thing that sucks about class dojo is that if the parents are not signed up, obviously they're not going to be getting that communication.  So if you have a parent that isn't on class dojo, be sure to get their email address and their phone number to make sure that you can communicate everything you've communicated on dojo with them personally through email or a phone number. So I'm just gonna show you guys a little bit of how I use class dojo. I have it pulled up here on my computer and I know it's hard to see but I basically give each student a monster at the beginning of the year and normally it's just the generic one that class dojo gives you and throughout the year I will allow the students to change their dojo monsters and there is a way that you can change the monsters into any photo that you would like. If you are interested in that, please let me know down in the comments below that way I can give you the directions for that and if I need to make a separate video about that I will definitely do so. I like to put the kids in here by first name alphabetically. It's just easier for me to find their names that way and it makes it a little less hectic when a kiddo is trying to go give themselves a point and they have to go searching for their name. So if they're in alphabetical order by their first name it's gonna be a lot easier for them to find their name. Class dojo has a really awesome feature where you can do small groups and do group points. If you're a person that has table groups and you like to give group points during the day instead of doing it on the board or having a separate space in the room for it you can do it directly on dojo and it makes it a lot easier. So what I do with class dojo is I give and take points away from students or give them to students as they're behaving in the classroom. What I will most likely do is ask that student to either give themselves a point or take a point for something specific that they did. If a student is doing something, well, I'll say, oh my gosh, good job. Let's just say, good job, Abby.  They get the chance to get out of their seat, go over to the computer and give themselves that point instead of me giving it to them. Now I do give my students a lot of points personally but I love letting them do it. It gives them a chance to get up out of their seat and be recognized for that wonderful behavior because they have to get up, walk across the room, the whole class gets to see them in their glory and they get to give themselves that point. Now it also does the same thing when you take a point from a student.  They'll get up, they'll go over, take their point away. So they kind of have that walk of shame going over there, getting rid of their point. So it kind of does the same thing just in positive and negative aspects. I love ClassDojo because I can put it on my phone and I can carry it around with me throughout the day. I used to have a class iPad that had internet on it. My current class iPad does not have wifi so I can't use it but I do like to use it on my phone that way it can have it with me all times when we're walking in the hallway I can give a point, when we're at the bathrooms I can take a point, when I'm at the back table and nowhere near the computer and I wanna take a point, I can do that with my phone. So I love having that feature. All right, so let's get into the juicy part of this video. How on earth am I gonna connect ClassDojo to a clip chart? I'm really, really excited about this because I think it's going to be a really great way to inspire the kiddos to want their dojo points and do a better job of making immediate feedback because I felt that in the past sometimes it was hard for me to keep track of points or remind kids to give them things like that. So I wanna give my students just another way to earn points rather than just picking on just the kid that's doing amazing or just the kid that's doing a terrible job. So that sounds awful, a terrible job. So I am going to incorporate a clip chart with this and I just actually printed and laminated this today. I haven't made it yet, I mean it's here but I haven't put it together. But the clip chart is just a normal clip chart. This one was on TPT. I forget the store, I will link it down below but it just has the top one is like a row model. Then we have a leader student look at you. It's a good day, reflect about it, stop and think and parent contact. Now the way I plan to use this together is I plan to use the clip chart as a weekly incentive. So wherever the kiddos land at the end of the week will be how many points they're allowed to give themselves. Now the points that I'm planning on having are they're going to be only for the positives. So if a student stays on green for the entire week so by the time Friday comes if they're still on green they will collect five extra points. That's amazing, that means you did a great job all week I didn't have to say much to you, you had a generally good week and you're getting rewarded with five extra points in your dojo. If they receive, if they're landed on blue at the end of the week they will get six points. If they're on pink, seven and if they're on purple, eight extra points. If they land on any of these three colors they will not get any extra dojo points. Now the way I motivate my students with dojo points is number one, their parents can see how many points they're earning throughout the week. But not only that, I do a dojo store every Friday and sometimes it can get really annoying and I don't wanna do it and I run out of time but I always seem to find a way. I also like doing it on Fridays because my mom and nephew both come into class and they can do the dojo store for me. Last year I also had a student who was able to do dojo store for me as well. Now I do dojo store on Fridays which means on Monday I reset the points. I like to do this because it gives each week a fresh start, it gives each student a fresh week and it makes it easier for me to keep track of points. So what usually happens is on Friday it takes about an hour to get through all of my students but I usually do it during intervention times cause I usually have that for about an hour. It's catch up and pickle so all of the students are normally sitting down quietly working on unfinished work or doing their centers for the week and I'll call up two to three students at once, I'll show them how many points they have and then I will ask them to choose a prize for their point. Then I give them a ticket which I'll show you guys what those are. Give them a ticket which is basically receipt. It says their name, the amount of points they spent and the prize they bought. They're only allowed to buy one prize per week so they have to save their points if they want the good prizes. All of the prizes that I included my dojo store are 100% free and they are simply incentives in the classroom. For example, one point might be a souvenir pencil or to use a reading buddy for the day. I have a bin of stuffed animals and the student can earn using the reading buddy for the day which means they can take this stuffed animal with them when they go to read independently. Three points, free homework pass which would be a night off from math homework.  Also, agenda duty which is where they can go and stamp agendas. I don't think I'm gonna do agendas next year so this one might be going away and then wear the cape for the day. I do have a superhero cape in my classroom that I allow my students to wear for the day if they earn three points and they would like to purchase that. So as you can see, these points go up. They go up from one, three, five, seven, 10, 15 and 20 and some of the other prizes are could be a piece of candy, choosing their partner for the day, choosing a class job for the day, choosing a prize from the prize box which is always just like dollar store finds, things like that, sit at the teacher's desk, change your dojo monster, get a positive note home, a handwritten positive note home, show and tell, 10 minutes of iPad time, help in another classroom, be the DJ for the day. This one is huge. They love being able to pick the music and then the top points are to have coffee with Mrs. Valdez in the morning which I bring them hot chocolate from Starbucks and then or lunch with Mrs. Valdez and they get to invite one friend. So I will join them for lunch in the cafeteria and then they can come in and enjoy their recess time in the classroom with me. We watch TV shows, we play games, we do all kinds of stuff. So I like having the dojo store because I know that it's an extrinsic motivator but all of these things that I'm giving them are within the classroom.  It's things that they are able to do within the classroom that don't cost me any money and don't cause me any stress. I like to use Class Dojo to keep track of individual student behavior. Because I do flexible seating, I do not utilize the group feature but if I didn't do flexible seating, I definitely would and I have in the past. I also keep track of the class points throughout the week and I set my students a goal and sometimes if they pass that goal, we'll do a class prize at the end of the week whether it's 30 minutes to 20 minutes of free time or extra computer time or extra recess on a Friday, just fun incentives to keep the class wanting to earn more points. All right guys, so thank you so much for watching. I hope this video was helpful and I hope that you all try Class Dojo and enjoy it. I am a Class Dojo mentor so if any of you have any other questions on how to use any of the features on Class Dojo, please do not hesitate to comment down below and I will help you out. Whether it's in another video or through a comment, I really, really hope that I can help you guys out using Class Dojo. All right guys, thanks for watching and I'll see you in the next one. Bye.


This is second down, give Henry, turning the left side, diving, touched down, tight, no! Eric Henry has nodded to count with 149 to go.


Live from San Francisco, extracting the signal from the noise, it's theCUBE, covering Oracle OpenWorld 2015. Brought to you by Oracle. Now your hosts, John Furrier and Jeff Frick. Hello everyone, welcome to Silicon Angles theCUBE. It's our flagship program where we go out to the events and extract the signal and noise, and we are live here at Oracle OpenWorld on Howard Street in the middle of all the action, all the cloud action, all the integrated systems action, all the engineered systems action. We're going to be here for three and a half days of live coverage through Wednesday. So we're kicking it off here. I'm John Furrier, the founder of Silicon Angles, Joe McCos, Jeff Frick. We'll have Wikibon analysts, Stu Miniman and Brian Grayson to join us shortly, and we have a slew of interviews lined up for all day. But Jeff, exciting to be here. We've been at all the different events over the past year. We had 70 events last year, and we're coming down to the tail end of 2015. We go to the shows, we ask all the tough questions, we extract the signal from the noise, and it's a cloudy world. And it's going to be partly cloudy here in San Francisco, but it's really exciting because Oracle is really flexed their muscle. We've covered their engineered storage and server event. We went to the cloud event with Larry Ellison and Oracle headquarters. Now we're here on the street, and it's super exciting. So great to see you. We're going to have a great day. What do you think? What's the vibe here? I mean, look around. Yeah, they've renamed Howard Street the Oracle Cloud Plaza for the next three days, John. So yeah, it's all about cloud. Here you call last year when we were at Oracle, when we were all, Larry kind of blessed the cloud, right? We were joking about it. Larry's in on the cloud. Well, he's all in. He's pushed all the chips in as evidenced by what's going on here. Really the emphasis on cloud. So we've been at a lot of great shows. Cloud is the theme. It's transforming the business. So what do you expect that we're going to get here, John? I expect a lot of haymakers being thrown by Larry Ellison. Certainly he's going to have the keynote here tonight. We're going to be covering that live on pre-game, post-game coverage. But I expect really one of the most epic Oracle open worlds. Now, this is our sixth year at Oracle open world. Now we've on the street, CNBC will be here, a lot of media coverage, mainly because it is the battle of the heavy waste. Larry Ellison has built a formal management team. They've transformed their company. It's a total database transformation. What we're going to see here today, in my opinion, is going to see Oracle in a full-on transition mode. He used a sailing analogy. The gear is set. The boat is going to be turning about. They are heading clearly into a integrated systems, engineered systems, plus a fully cloud world. I interviewed Dave Donatelli at a last cloud event, and I then posted on Forbes where I have a column, and I wrote what he said, which is, any company that does not have a public cloud is doomed, and he's referring to HP, IBM, Dell, et cetera. So that's one thing. The second thing is, in context of the overall industry, you're going to hear a lot of posturing because the EMC Dell acquisition really puts at the forefront the management team, the talent of these now mega conglomerates. Oracle is a big company with a lot of management team, a lot of talent. Mark Hurd, Dave Donatelli, to name a few, John Fowler, obviously Larry Ellison as the CTO. So I'm expecting to see a lot of product actions. Thomas Kurian is going to be giving a keynote on Tuesday, probably heavily product-focused. But this is all about Amazon Web Services. Amazon Web Services has shown the way for an enterprise-type approach. They won the public cloud, but that's not the only game in town. Now it's about the enterprise. So I'm expecting to see Oracle really put a lot of stakes in the ground to counter the Amazon Web Services. I'm expecting to see Larry Ellison's slides and use the word Amazon Web Services, not IBM. It used to be IBM was the target, now you're going to see Amazon. And Amazon has thrown the gauntlet down there, putting out there that the Aurora service is luring in all the Oracle customers. So I expect a huge counterpoint, counter punch from Oracle on that front to differentiate and show the Oracle customer base that Amazon enterprise cloud is not going to be as viable as, say, Oracle. Then there's the context between the Dell EMC merger, Jeff.  And it's all going to come down to power and ultimately management team and execution. So it's going to be really interesting to see the jockeying. The boats are on the water, the race is on, it's, you know, Microsoft, Amazon, Dell EMC, I wouldn't even put any HP into the mix at this point. I think they're like way in the last place relative to Oracle. So that's what I'm expecting to see a lot of action. I'm super excited to break it down. And again, we're going to do 48 segments. So we're going to be extracting that signal from the noise. And then of course you got Google who's there kind of waiting in the wings. And of course Microsoft Azure is also one of the big cloud platforms. But John, it's a really interesting point because AWS from a competitive standpoint is a completely different animal than now the combined Dell EMC. So what are the different strategies to kind of look down those two paths? Well, we said on theCUBE that basically this is what inning are we in to use the baseball metaphor is that game one of the double header was public cloud. Amazon clearly has results there. And the profitability that they're throwing off is pretty significant. Larry Ellison also highlighted some significant financial performance at the cloud launch in Redwood Shores just a few months ago. So what I'm expecting to see is Oracle differentiating their offerings because it's a hard game in the enterprise. The sales motions, the pricing, the database role in the enterprise, the on-prem, the role of the engineered systems is going to be a real asset for Oracle. That investment is going to be pretty critical. And obviously they have the fusion stuff and a lot of big data stuff. So I expect Oracle to highly differentiate the enterprise sales motion and deployment with cloud specifically. And that's going to be really counter punching Amazon's quote self-service, low touch sales approach. So did Amazon poke the bear? Is that kind of what happened in terms of really moving these enterprise companies and applications, sales forces into a hybrid or a hybrid cloud world? Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt. We talked to Andy Jassy on theCUBE at Amazon re-invent but Amazon clearly has poked the bear with Oracle because, and Oracle's expecting this by the way, I don't think this is new news for Oracle. Oracle's ready for this and I'm excited to see what they come out. But specifically what Amazon has done is gone after the Oracle's install base by saying we're going to give you free tools to migrate the database. Again, the theme that we're watching here, Oracle is in a database transition they've never seen before and they're doing it. It's not like they woke up yesterday and said, hey, we should start preparing as Amazon. We saw this two years ago, last year, some tell from Larry and then obviously the announcements are all about cloud. They got a public cloud, they got a private cloud, they got a hybrid cloud. I'm expecting to see private, public and private, hybrid and public be the theme but also clearly the engineer's system. So horizontally, the customers can buy whatever they want and then on top of that, you're going to see a lot of vertical, real product excellence. So I think that's what Oracle will do and also they've got the high-tech sales motion. They have really, really good, strong base. And then you've got other kind of locusts of competition. You've got the microprocessor. So I see that we've got, CEO of Intel is going to come on on the keynote later today. What do you expect there? Obviously we've got some spark history, lot going on even on the microprocessor side. Well the microprocessor with the Intel highlights to me with the biggest trend in the business right now and that is, is that the software on silicon, you're going to hear some news there. That's going to be something to watch. But more importantly, the internet of things really points to a paradigm of high performance computing combined with a software analytics market. That essentially is middleware in my opinion. So what you will see in my opinion is the Intel Oracle kind of relationship combined with the spark stuff to lay out a fully comprehensive internet of things offering that will be highly differentiated and high performance. At the end of the day, what Intel showed in the computer revolution was if you can harden down that top, customers really don't care. That's why Oracle's having a lot of success with engineered systems because customers just want a working high performance solution that can scale. So that's not about lock-in, that's just about fact. I want to deploy an IoT solution with big data. I don't want to have to launch a Hadoop cluster, do all this leg work, hire all these DevOps guys. Enterprise wants turnkey, scalable solutions and IoT is going to be a huge opportunity. I'm expecting to hear Larry essentially own IoT. I'd be surprised if he doesn't come out with the IoT message that they've invented IoT. But again, it's in their wheelhouse. IoT is heavily database driven and cloud. So with engineered systems, the intake, the ingest, all these things are database driven. So IoT, I expect to be huge. So begs the question, the whole nother looks at competition is the database, right? That is no longer just the exclusive purvey where obviously built their business back in the day. There are a lot more than that now, but it's a lot going on in the database space. Yeah, I mean, the database space is going through another sickle goal. It's always doing the same thing, you know? It's evolution, the database always pops down and it's new innovation. But the big issue right now is the hidden costs and cost of ownership. At the end of the day, people want outcomes and that means I got to re-architect my enterprise to handle big data IoT and cloud without disruption, right? And they don't want to hire guys to write age base or Hadoop programs. And that's going to be kind of a different cost of ownership. So one of the things that Oracle I think will do is change their pricing models. And that's something that we haven't heard from them yet. We'll see how that rolls out, but certainly their sales tactics and their customer presence will have to be tweaked a bit, but I'm expecting essentially that kind of that discussion. Like, okay, what do we do with customers? How do we price the internet of things? How do we roll this thing out? And with open source and all this good stuff, there's a deployment cost of ownership. That's going to be something that I should expect some data on. Yeah, and clearly Oracle's got a huge installed base. All the posters all around Oracle Open World are customers, customers, customers, this customer doing that, this customer doing that. So clearly they're a trusted party for a lot of their customers that are going to help them grab these transformational things that are going on with cloud and internet of things. These are huge disruptions and opportunities to the incumbents as well as the startups. Yeah, we've heard that. We've heard that the startup landscape is ultimately going to have to look at what the big guys are doing. We call them whales, right? The big whales are Oracle, Microsoft, now EMC and Dell, obviously will be a big part of that. And to find some white space is going to be all about finding about which ecosystem you want to play in. The Oracle ecosystem is pretty large. You go down the show floor, you'll see a lot of companies down there that have been here for many, many years. Oracle does some pretty big business with a lot of big companies. They're not a startup. However, their ecosystem is an opportunity. So the interesting thing we'll try to squint through is, what is a startup opportunity? Every VC I talked to in Sand Hill Road and Palo Alto, Menlo Park are all scratching their heads right now. Where do I invest? Look at OpenStack. Look at the transformation, just in OpenStack alone. The cloud business is radically changing. It's happening really, really fast. And if you don't have a big boat, okay, you cannot win, right? And that's something that Larry Ellison knows a lot about. He's got the big boat right down at the end of the street. He's got the big boat right down the street, you know, the ultimate. We need a bigger boat. Obviously this great white is jumping into the harbor here. We know that from on YouTube. But really, the serious thing is that customers want a partner.  At the end of the day, they don't want science projects in the enterprise. Enterprises want a reliable partner and ecosystem to support it with entrepreneurial activity, by the way. But they want performance. End of the day, they'll take a box over some open source. So as always, John, we go out to the events, we extract a signal from the noise. We've got a huge guest lineup set up. We're going to be covering the keynotes as well. We're here through Wednesday. But of all the lists that we've got of great people coming on, who are some of the ones you're looking forward to the most? I'm looking forward to John Fowler today because he is going to be a guest worth talking to because he has the sun background. Spark is rearing its head. People are forgetting about UNIX, right? So UNIX has been around. UNIX is, if you look at what Larry Ellison is doing, he's essentially bringing the best of UNIX into the engineering system. Steve Jobs did this with Next. The reason why Max don't have viruses because it took basically the UNIX operating system and put on the desktop. Larry Ellison is taking the best of UNIX and putting it into his engineered systems and then integrating it into a modern architecture with software. So to me, that is going to be a thing. I want to hear what Fowler's working on. And obviously we're going to have the keynotes, Larry's key note today. I'm really interested in hearing that. Mark heard, I want to hear the product update from Mark on the go-to-market, some of the sales motions, some of the customer activities. And Thomas Currie, I want to hear about the product stuff.  I'll see Dave Donatelli, he will be a big guest on Wednesday. I'm looking forward to that as well. Awesome. So again, wall-to-wall coverage today, through the end of the day Wednesday, go to siliconangle.tv slash o-o-w dash 2015. Also keep an eye on our Twitter handle at theCube. We'll be giving you lots of updates, pictures, behind the scenes, all the fun activity. Well, John, are about ready to go? Yeah, ready to go. Go to crowdshot.net slash o-o-w-15 and join the conversation. We're going to kick this off right away, right now. Thanks for watching. We'll be right back with more, live on Howard Street is theCUBE at the Oracle Cloud Plaza. On the middle of the street here, we'll be right back with more after this short break.