Hey Virgo, welcome back to the channel. If you're new welcome. This is Kelly from House of Virgo Please smash that like button and subscribe if you enjoy the reading today We're gonna do how your person is feeling about you I'm gonna go through each sign Aries all the way through Pisces. We're gonna start with Aries So if you're connecting with one of these signs, we'll go down the line and see how they're feeling about you What their energy is towards you and what they're doing at this time, okay? So again, please smash that like and like button and subscribe And yeah, let's get started. So already for Aries if you're connecting with an Aries We've got the emperors here. So let's take a look here and see I feel like this person sees you as someone who is pretty much in control and Really leveled up high energy. You know what you're doing in life Taking the lead in your life That kind of energy Wow this Virgo this person is like really impressed with you. I have to say this this Aries is super super impressed with you They look at you. They want to it's almost like they want to emulate you in some way Maybe even a little intimidated by you They also want to have a conversation with your father They wanted something about talking to your father or your brother or someone who's important to you They also think that maybe you have someone in your life who? I'm just hearing it. They feel like this person is better than them Or that you might be connecting with someone who they feel is better than they are they want to kind of be like that Wow, we've got the lovers here. So yeah, Virgo And I also feel like this person wants to level up to try to be better for you Okay, this Aries. They definitely love you. There's definitely deep feelings that this Aries has for you Virgo and I just kind of feel like they they know what you need they know They know the kind of person you need them to be to be in a relationship and they're taking a look at that for sure At this time, okay Let's move on to Taurus so if you're connecting with a Taurus Virgo, let's take a look and see what the Taurus's energy is here towards you What their feelings are for you Okay Hmm. Well Taurus feels like You have just destroyed them They feel it's so crazy because that's the Taurus card. The first card was Aries card. What's going on? Taurus feels devastated Um, they feel like you ended this relationship. You really, uh, broke the mold here Um, I just see them like being in complete ruin About a relationship Virgo that you were in with them Let me say they feel like you destroyed the relationship or you cut it off or you Just said that's it. You're done. You know, you threw a spike in the ground and Just kind of were like, nope, that's it Not going for with that. Yeah, and that you moved on. So I feel like Taurus is They're really trying to get themselves back into, um A good place because of something that's ended Whether they ended it or you ended it like this person is just in complete ruin And I feel like they're trying to get themselves in like, I don't know They're kind of moving away here to to kind of gain ground and get stable and get more comfortable I do feel like this this Taurus looked at you like, you know, the Empress And we first had the Emperor. That's crazy. You could have been um dealing with someone who was on the cusp of various Taurus also like around April 19th, there's the 20th or something around that time, but I feel like this person Yeah, Taurus is like pretty much devastated if you ended something I see them just kind of moving forward moving on um It just feels like they're they're trying to get out of Like either they're relocating or moving maybe you kicked them out Or you know, you told them you didn't want to live with them or you moved out And um, they see you pulling away. They see you moving away to get in a better place and um Yeah, I just feel like they're like completely devastated either because you didn't come back Or you ended a relationship or they ended it and you just said, okay, you're moving on this person Taurus is not in a good place right now Not in a good place Okay, let's move next to Gemini Let's Gemini's energy towards Virgo How they're feeling what their energy is towards Virgo at this time Virgo and Gemini Oh, okay All right Virgo Gemini sees you Virgo is like you're no longer Trying you've left the scene of the crime. They are completely heartbroken um But I feel Virgo like Gemini still They're walking into heartbreak here They know I kind of feel like they like they're moving forward in their life But they're looking back at you still like they're it's almost like Are you going to give your love to somebody else? It actually kind of feels like they're reversed now. They're saying With that night of pentacles in the reverse Virgo I just kind of feel like they look at you as like maybe you're stubborn or you don't want to work on this or And I feel like they want to but if they have to walk and move away and start over in their life without you It's going to be heartbroken heartbreaking for them But I kind of feel like they don't want to give up. They don't want to Gemini does not want to completely end this relationship. They don't their feeder Their feeder moving forward, but they're they're still looking back in the rear view mirror And just wondering All right, will you give them another chance? So I I don't know if this person's actually going to come forward But I do feel like this is like do I do I try to talk to Virgo and And see if maybe they will just hear me out or listen to what I have to say Or should I just keep and keep moving forward and just let it end and you know They don't want to have any arguments. They want to try to work things out with you Otherwise like there's two alternatives here for Gemini Gemini just is like, okay, I'm gonna walk in a heartbreak and You know, this whole thing's gonna end If if Virgo has somebody else like I can't give up Virgo And I don't want to give up Virgo, but I feel like Gemini's in this like right on the fence here, you know what I mean?  They don't want to forget you They know it's going to be heartbreaking And it's going to hurt If there's a divorce or separation or if you guys go your separate ways But for some reason they just feel like you are With that like you're stubborn like you're not budging with them They think you won't budge or that you won't give them a chance or talk to them And maybe you won't Virgo that's up to you But they're seeing it They're seeing it that that it's almost it's getting to the point where they feel like it's it might even be hopeless at this point But I feel like there is just one more try. They're telling me Gemini wants to try one more time Excuse me Okay, so cancer How is cancer feeling about Virgo? Okay, so they have some stuff they want to tell you they want to talk to you They want to bring some truth and some clarity. Oh, yeah.   They can't really move forward They're gonna struggle without you is what I'm hearing and I feel like there may be a conversation Or there's something that they tell you somewhere along the lines like without you. I'm nothing or They come to terms with this they realize this That you know, you guys like it was better two or better than one um I feel like there's also some truth about maybe they lean on they they were leaning on you too too much and they needed to get themselves together and straighten themselves out become more Independent. Yeah, because that five of pentacles. Yeah, I just I don't know It just kind of feels like this person's really really worried Um, they don't want to be alone. They just don't want to be alone I feel like they like they don't want to be without you is how I feel And I feel like cancer is gonna try to open up some dialogue And open up with this judgment card to reveal like what's really going on with them um That they struggle there's they struggle they they feel like If they don't have you in their life Like I don't feel like cancer feels like they can't live their life, you know and but I There's something about you Virgo that they need And it really just comes down to them telling you they need you You give to them you help them you do something for them That they can't even imagine being able to do on their own that cancer is very um codependent very But not in a very manipulative way. I want to I don't want to say that I'm not codependent dependent. Um Very dependent And if they had some financial dependence on you before I feel like they're going to tell you that um They are looking taking a look at this here that um They need to be learning how to provide for themselves to be more in a Aspect to contribute more to the relationship instead of leading on you or taking Um too much from you or relying too much on you to You know lead the way so there there's a bit of like a revelation happening here with cancer Towards you Virgo. I feel like if you're in separation with this person There's like some aha moments coming to them like wow I realize that you know, I I leaned on you too much and I maybe even Had this like negative mindset poverty mindset About their relationship and I feel like they want to contribute now in a positive way okay, and um It's a true crystal clear communication Um, but they still need your support. That's what I that's what I hear Um, they need your support I just want to get one more card here for this How cancer feels about Virgo what they want to say Okay Uh Virgo, it just feels to me like cancer wants to try to do the right thing by you They want to do right by you. They want to do right with you Um, this is fairness. This is balance I feel like cancer was just taking like leaning too heavily on you in the past or creating some kind of dynamic where um You were contributing almost all of everything and they were only contributing a small percentage And relying on you to lead the way or take care of everything which in some regards Virgo always knows best, but I think In this situation here, um, they they felt They want to play a role. They want to take part. Okay, and justice is also in regards to legal or financial issues It sits on the five of pentacles. So if there's a financial thing going on here where cancer was taking up too much or um You were doing everything financially. Um, I feel like They're I see this person communicating with you even like um paying. It's just about paying their Their share paying you or giving you money or contributing financially and not leaning too heavily On you. Okay So this seems more like a financial thing going on here with cancer and uh In the partnership and the relationship Okay, Virgo if you're connecting with a leo Let's see. Okay Well, let's see This leo got you blocked Or they think you blocked them. This person wants healing They want to renew this connection Leo what else is going on with leo towards Virgo? You're dealing with A leo Okay, king of wands here Yeah, so Virgo it feels like um Well, leo wants you to unblock them They they want you to unblock them.  You're not communicating with them And with the star I feel like this person is like really really hoping that they're waiting They're sitting there waiting for you to unblock them or for you to Make a way for them to communicate to you or Even if you don't have them and on even if you don't have them blocked per se Like on your phone or something like that They're kind of waiting for you to um also make a decision They I feel like they're they're very hopeful and and waiting and hopeful that you will um Uh decide to try to work on this relationship with them Or open yourself up to them. I feel like they see you as trying to figure out what you want to do They're hoping that you're going to make some compromise with them and try to sort something out here Come to some kind of creative solution In regards to whatever you both were uh struggling with Some kind of issue you're struggling with whether it's the relationship or You are in disagreement of some sort. They're very hopeful that Sorry They're very hopeful that you will um figure out what it is that you want or what it is that you need from them um They're basic They have faith they do that this person Leo I mean, I feel like they're really focused on you right now Virgo They definitely see you as like a bright and shining star You know in their life, there there's you know something about you that glows So whatever this decision is that needs to be made they may have prompted you with something um Or you have maybe you they you made a decision to end a relationship or you're just not communicating with them They're they're wait. They're hopeful that you will talk to them again They want you to talk to them and and give them some kind of answer to something or Try to have some type of renewal in this relationship or heal the partnership. I just can't believe it. Yeah, there's the lovers So I mean Virgo this person it's about the relationship like they want to come into union But they're waiting for you to decide um or to unblock them To to carve a path or create a way for them to communicate with you or you know They're waiting for you to come back to them too is what i'm hearing To make that decision they're hoping that you will decide that you too can come back together. They really want that Okay, but they can't you know The king of wands is a mover and a shaker, but the king of wands You know by nature is a mover and a shaker, but the king of wands just sitting there. They can't do anything They're ready Um the minute they get the call or the minute they hear from you they're like they're you know, they're ready They're in a position the stance is ready But they're not going to um pursue and chase after you because they don't want they want to give you the time and the space That you need to um kind of intuit and figure out what it is that you want Or what you want to do. They're hope they're hoping you're going to i'm just hearing choose them They're hoping you're going to come back Or that you're going to work things out with them Okay, Virgo if you're connecting with another Virgo Okay, so you've got the chariot How is Virgo's Virgo feeling or thinking about them?  They're smitten definitely um They want to take a trip with you and I feel like they want to communicate that to you but keep it very nonchalant There's nothing romantic here at all But I feel like this Virgo is um I'm hearing um ready to make change your Virgo is showing up with the king of swords Okay, so they're showing up as someone who's very strategic I'm very intentional With you, so I feel like this this other Virgo is not someone who just minces words I feel like what they say they mean what they say and they say what they mean But there's something here about the chariot It feels mostly like this Virgo is ready to make some change to take some action and make some change Um because they have these this like uh, oh these these feelings for you like just they're very enthusiastic about you Let me see there's something here. Let me see. Okay So the moon showed up in the reverse So this is like clarity here. I feel like Virgo if you're connecting with another Virgo There's just this other Virgo in your life. Whatever.  Maybe there was some type of dream that they had about you Where you two were together and it was very romantic and it kind of like there was a residual in the rest of their day Um when they think about you or when they see you And I feel like they want to talk to you definitely But they're they're reaching out to you with this very flirtatious kind of energy But the the thing behind it all is that they're they're like they get the clarity They're they're ready to make a move here with the chariot um Yeah, yeah Um, just take this journey with you. I'm hearing wherever that leads to go. I'm hearing. I want to go with you Virgo Okay interesting All right, so we're gonna move on to Libra if you're dealing with a Libra If you're a Virgo You have a connection with a Libra see how Libra is feeling or what they're thinking about you just flew right out pretty quickly Hmm, you guys are in some kind of temporary separation. You're just not communicating right now um So Virgo, I feel like Libra wants to make a love offer here or propose to you they're coming in with truth. I feel like um Excuse me. I feel like um The Libra Is going to tell you that they've gotten rid of those other people I'm hearing um, there's some kind of separation between the two of you and during this time period um The Libra has if they were um connecting with others Uh, or dating other people or in some kind of maybe even just flirting with other people or whatever was going on Um, not good intentions. I feel like um I feel like this the Libra wants to make a bona fide love offer to you like a proposal of marriage or commitment or You know bring their love to you Um, but also with the truth behind it to tell you that they're not they're not connecting with those people anymore. They've cut them all off Okay, they've cut them all off Um, they don't want anything to do with them anymore whether they're people they were dating or Uh thoughts in their head negative thoughts or people like whispering in their ear Or friends or family um Or whomever it feels to me like Libra has always loved you And they've always felt these deep feelings for you and I feel like this this aid of cups is You know, there's some kind of temporary separation between the two of you I feel like there's a retreat this Libra needed to go deal with their business and I feel like they're Definitely going to be returning at some point with this night of cups for you but also to give you the truth that you know The obstacles that you guys are feeling are experiencing in the relationship was caused by them not by you They were the one who was bringing other people into the relationship having other people third parties fourth parties fifth parties, whichever Being involved and I feel like even in a romantic sense You know this person here this this five of swords um Is like this person here stands here with these three swords, you know, they're the breaking hearts They've made a decision with the two of swords here to tell those other people to go They don't want anything to do with them. You are their love. You are their love Um, at some point I do feel like they aren't going to come forward this night of cups But I feel like right now, um Like they they're very intentional. They know what they're doing and they're not they haven't come forward yet Um while you guys are not, um In this connection at this time are really having much communication I feel like it's because This person needed to withdraw from your relationship to finish their business Elsewhere they cut like, you know, let the dust settle finish their their business first so that they can come forward So they will be coming forward Virgo Possibly in may with this love offer Okay, you and the sly bra all right And move on to Virgo and Scorpio And see what Scorpio's energy is towards Virgo how they're feeling Okay, Virgo and Scorpio, okay Okay, well Scorpio definitely has you on their mind Virgo Let me see what's going on here Oh Oh my goodness. Okay, some of you might be on the cusp with Leo Virgo um Virgo it looks to me like Scorpio If it's not, I mean, I will definitely say Scorpio is in hermit mode right now And they are kind of reflecting um about you and about the relationship really kind of On their own thinking about you um, but there's also could be a second person involved in this Where they are kind of considering it might be Are they interested who they who they should choose there might be like a choice between you and another person, okay So let me give you a couple of messages here. So if you're on the cusp here of Leo Virgo um Scorpio is definitely considering and gone within self-reflecting searching for truth um Doing a lot of heavy-duty thinking. Okay. Wow these two similar cards. Okay um, all right. So right now Scorpio is kind of in this place right now Virgo where um, do they walk away? And just keep moving on or do they come back and make that love offer that proposal to you? Scorpio is in hermit mode Right now. There's no communication. Scorpio is not talking um What's on their mind is this there's something to do with abandonment. What's on their mind is um They're they're definitely retreating they've withdrawn um And they're on some kind of journey here To figure out um, either who which one they want to make a love offer to proposal like for lifetime So if it could be a fire sign or it could be you Or it's just in general for you. Okay Now, let me just kind of pick this part a little bit because we do have two Quirk cards.  Scorpio is in a bit of a conundrum here um Okay, so the fire sign is either Is is having trouble at home or trouble in a marriage or relationship The fire sign is either in a broken marriage Um, there's something going on with this fire sign things are not good Okay, Leo Aries or Sagittarius this fire sign Is kind of Okay, Scorpio or it is complicated my of course because it's a Scorpio meeting a Scorpio, um Okay, Scorpio is wondering if the fire sign is going to leave their marriage for them Which is odd. I don't want to get too due deep in this and also, um, Scorpio Thinks that you Virgo, um might have a new beginning with somebody else Scorpio is very confused About what to do. Scorpio is kind of teetering here. Um even in general About whether you if you're with somebody else if you're going if you're really moving forward with someone else And you don't want them back that the scorpio just does not know what to do And they're not taking any action at this time Except to just withdraw and try to figure out You know, if they want to make a make this like make an offer to you They want to come back and make an offer to you or if they should move on they're they just don't know what to do and I feel like Scorpio is just Trying to figure that out if they should go with somebody else or It's like I feel like Scorpio is kind of like they're taking their old sweet time I feel like Scorpio is like kind of making their decision somewhat based on what you are doing And somewhat based on what maybe you and another person are doing. They're very conflicted I can tell you right now. They're very conflicted about you And their love life and they're trying to gain some clarity about that and they're taking their time I I listen Virgo, I don't know that if scorpio is going to come back and make this love offer to you It's going to be they're taking their sweet time. It's going to be a little while. Okay, but the eight of cups is a card of Temporary separation I do feel like there is going to be some type of offer that will come to you But they have to get that clarity first because they don't They don't I don't know if they don't trust themselves or that they're seeking that inner guidance Okay, so so really apart from everything that's going on with you in general or just you and another person They're trying to come to their truth about what they want about where their heart rests where their heart Lies at this point, you know, and I feel like scorpio Just wants to be loved and I feel like scorpio is going to make a reach out No matter what the outcome is at some point, but it's just going to take time They're going to just you just need a lot of time to figure out what What they want to do based on what they want to do not on what's happening external Okay, too much information for scorpio. All right, let's take a look Sagittarius if you're connecting with a sagittarius Okay Yep, there are you so sagittarius definitely has you on their mind Okay, let's see Oh Um, they I'm hearing sagittarius wants to come home Okay, they're really stressed about some kind of ending. This is very straightforward Um, sagittarius wants to come home And they want to reunite they want to have that relationship again. They want to commit they're very very to like crazy stressed crazy Anxious about something that's ended here or about an ending Um, this sagittarius cannot sleep at night They're having like a hard time They're just in some kind of like extreme stress about something that ended Or uh, some kind of betrayal Like they're at a complete and painful rock bottom situation right now and all they can think about Is the four of ones and you All they can think about is the family the marriage the relationship the commitment everyone involved All of everyone that was involved They feel like they're on the outskirts here look in a very dark place right here And and vergo also Some of you might have or might be in another relationship now or you've gotten married or you've Committed um, and you're very happy right now and it's killing them This is very straightforward. They're apps. They're absolutely like Heartbroken Yeah, and they would love to kind of um have some kind of reunion But there might be somebody else in your life and they know they can't do that So it's like they're devastated by that. Um, and if you don't have somebody else in your life, um, They're stressing about not having committed to you or not having Um kept the foundation sturdy and strong in the relationship with you. Yeah, this this sad just like not in a good place No, no, no, no Not in a good place. Um, possibly even bordering bordering along the lines of regret just complete Hit and rock bottom Okay, all right Oops Okay Capricorn Oh Oh, I don't like this the message. They're just giving me right here Oh, no, I'm not happy about this. Okay, but I'm gonna give the message anyway It feels like Capricorn is kind of like happy that you um They they think that your world is like falling apart. They're pretty freaking happy about that That's very vindictive. I feel Capricorn. Um, they're they're watching your world fall apart And they're either happy about it or That's two messages. They're either happy about it. And I'm just gonna leave that alone. Um, or they're seeing that Or they think that you're happy that their world is falling apart I don't know if there's paranoia here. What's going on with this Capricorn, but um, oh You know what Virgo, I feel like and it's I don't know if this is a Capricorn trade I don't think I've ever seen this something's going on here. But I feel like Capricorn is looking at you like They ghosted you and they know it's killing you Or it's just not a good thing and they they they want you to come looking looking for them. They want you to be like um They're watching you is what I feel like they're watching you struggle um So if this if if you're I don't know how they would be watching you struggle Maybe they see you online or maybe you're posting things And you're posting stuff like a real person wouldn't do this and then whatever it is They're watching it and they're kind of feeling like it's boosting up their ego a little bit. Look at this smugness um, so any kind of um Any kind of fallout from something that has happened in regards to this relationship with this person I feel like um, they're they're retaining joy And getting an ego boost from your demise That's how I feel so if you're even if you're letting them know that you're really hurt or all this stuff is going on You know, um, it's giving them a it's giving them an ego boost.  I don't like it But that's what i'm picking up even if they're being nice to you and being kind like somewhere within them they're kind of like oh Virgo's like even though something's ended here or if something's fallen apart Virgo's still like I'm having a an effect on Virgo just by not being there and they're they're kind of liking that I don't know Virgo what to tell you about that. I feel like if that's something that you're dealing with Um, it's another business how they're feeling how you're feeling In regards to a relationship ending But anyway, let's move on. Maybe capricorn is going to like get some sense. Why is the tower here again? Okay, Aquarius I hope this isn't going to be the similar message Okay, um So it looks like Aquarius is um, they're looking at you and they think that like you've broken free and you've moved on with your life They're watching you they're watching you that something has ended In with them or maybe some argument or something happened, but they see you being just like, you know, I don't even really care I'm just going to move on. It's not worth it. They see that you've left And they they're paying attention and they see that you've moved on After something has ended there they see they see it. They recognize it Um But of course try to get some emotions or feelings out of Aquarius is Let's see if we can try how they're feeling about it Oh, okay. Well, you know It's still the same story. I mean, I feel like mostly They've recognized that you what the heck's going on here I feel like they've recognized that you like made some bold moves You took some you made a bold move here and you ended something with them They're like kind of like wow, that's what I feel like it's it's kind of like a wow Virgo really just did that Okay Well, you know what Virgo if if this person if Aquarius didn't think that you meant it Well, they're coming to terms with that like, uh, oh wow Um Virgo's not returning and they want you to though. They want you to come back And I feel like they're kind of like wow, I can't believe Virgo did that. Wow King of Ones like bold. Okay. Yeah, they're kind of they're suffering a little bit here. Um Yeah They want you to come back so that they can um Depend on you or they need you. I don't know Virgo I mean you obviously if you've left this relationship you left for a reason Um, Aquarius just cannot believe that you did you pulled like they're like what like they can't believe that you did what you did Like they're struggling Because of that. I will tell you that I will also tell you there's no cup energy here. There's no cup Okay, so as far as their emotions, this might be all ego Okay, there there might be not any emotions. I don't I'm not seeing sadness. There's nothing regret or more So I'm not seeing happiness.  They just they're like shocked. They're in shock right now. They're in shock Goodness gracious Okay Pisces If you're connecting with the Pisces Virgo connecting with the Pisces Virgo and Pisces. Okay. They see you being very defensive. You're giving a lot of pushback Oh, okay Did you ghost him or they ghosted you? um Virgo, I feel like Pisces is kind of looking at you right now like They think they think that you don't know what you want with them like that you're not they see you being non-committal You're pushing back.  You're pushing back on a relationship on the emotional Aspect maybe you don't have time for the relationship right now You you might be in school or you have other things going on.  No, no, you don't want you don't want this relationship. Okay. So, you know, they're trying to they're trying to Keep their poker poker face. They're trying to keep themselves like Like it's fine. It doesn't bother me the five of cups came out in reverse.  Okay, something that might have happened. Um or I don't know something that happened The relationship falling apart or something not working out like they're on the verge, but they're they're keeping it hidden So they get their poker face. They're not why do I want to say poker face? They're not showing you They're not revealing full on that They're in the five of cups because they're not fully there yet, but they have a lot of they have loss and regret um They they don't feel loved. They feel abandoned, which you know for whatever reason I don't know what it is, but they're not they're not revealing that instead. They're just kind of like Acting like everything's fine. They're handling things great. There's no problem But that's not really the truth because deep inside. I just feel like they are They have some regret Virgo.  There's no commitment here. They see Maybe you're pushing back or um protecting yourself from a lack of commitment from this person and I mean, I don't know that the the Pisces is going to come together But I feel like if there's communication with you or if you talk to them or whatever Any kind of interaction with them they're going to show up with this emperor energy where everything's fine but deep inside they're like kind of cresting on the side more of like feeling really Emotionally like they're they're they're almost about to the point where it's up right here. Okay So they're definitely feeling the the pangs Of regret and remorse for some kind of some kind of thing. Okay. Let's just take a look here So we've gone through all the signs. Let's just take a look here at you Virgo overall going forward for the month of the rest of may Let me give this a really good shuffle Let's take a look at Virgo See Virgo's energy for the rest of May Okay, Virgo's energy for the rest of May. What does Virgo? What can they expect? All right, there's a three of pentacles again. So whatever you're working on Virgo at this time in your life um Keep going keep doing that. Okay, some of you might be 36 years of age Keep doing what you're doing and and Virgo, I feel like I see you being very generous Very giving very hospitable very very fair balanced. I mean, I feel like you're getting alone from for school Or you're contributing or you're maybe going to a graduation and bringing gift of some sort in may Um But as far as like love goes Virgo, let me see Maybe you're um contributing to charity um Helping or paying some child support or receiving or helping a child um or a school a school-aged person um It looks at Virgo. I have to be honest with you like I mean when am I never But Virgo, you're all about your money.  It looks like you're very focused on Helping other people you look very focused on um Collaborating with people um your career very focused on your the quality you bring to your career your teamwork your skills learning schooling Um even the night of pentacles here, you know, um being very reliable. You're working hard At whatever it is is going on in your life. You're not working on romance Virgo. It doesn't look like it here Uh to me at all.  Is it kind of like well, you know At least with your career and your work what you put in you get back out of it. I I guess that might be your mindset here Uh, okay, let me see. Let's take a look at love though Virgo. Let's see if we can get anything here for You know may I see in may though. You're very focused on your career and the things you're doing. Okay And you're also being very aggressive I see some aggression. Well, maybe you're not being aggressive, but I see there's a queen of cups here All right, here comes all the There's a queen of cups going to be showing up in may And this queen of cups Is looking for you Okay, now masculine feminine energy, whichever it is queen of cups Uh, water sign energy. Okay, uh, they're coming after you. They're looking at they're looking for you I don't know who this person is. Okay um Because look Virgo it feels like in may you're you're like none and I got work to do. I you know, I'm very focused on building and creating and you know, um Building my life exponentially in many ways and you know, um Focusing on my my work and my health and my career and like all these other things But there is somebody here. This queen of cups is very emotional and um very focused on Their feelings right now And there's something to do. I can't not see The seven of pent the seven of cups as uh anything other than a card of someone who's ghosted I just can't you know, and and there's an intrigue here That there is a water sign that has about you. There's like a deep intrigue So I don't know who this person is to you whether it's romantic friendship Whichever, but I feel like their energy with this knight of swords is someone who's coming in to Like they're making some kind of lifestyle change And uh, they're they're being very aggressive Even to communicate with you about this. Okay. I don't know how this is going to resonate Sometimes I don't know if I'm connecting at all, but maybe you understand what this is about. Let me say Oh gosh page of swords Two of wands. Oh my goodness Oh, this person is so curious They're showing up here. So curious about what you're up to like. Why are you so intriguing to this person? Did you go somebody? Did you walk away from somebody?  Wow Virgo, so as far as love goes, uh, I don't know I just kind of feel like you've got somebody here who's coming in to make some kind of change They want to change the dynamic of this relationship. Um, if they were non committal, they're coming in. They're watching. They're curious They want to talk to you um with that page Um, they might even like I kind of said for one of the signs there was someone spying on another on a Virgo Very curious about you And uh, yeah, this is definitely This person here is coming in with this decision. They've made a decision. They're standing at the crossroad They've made a decision to make things right with you. They want to make things right with you in may I'm definitely going to tell you expect some kind of communication Possibly from a water sign. It could be from a Libra, but in general from somebody coming through here who, um They're standing there. They're like ready. They got the world in their hands and they want to give you the world You know and do right by you, you know a win-win kind of situation here with The justice card and the justice card is kind of like karma, you know karmic justice so I feel like somebody here it could be a water sign who's getting or you know, like a Libra getting their karma And it's like whoops. I'm just hearing somebody saying whoops Yikes whoops and yikes Somebody made a bad decision in the past Or At least maybe by you others definitely communication.  There's so much movement here the knight of swords the two of wands the six of swords This is all about movements And like taking I don't want to say taking a risk But their idea and their plan is to um come out of their comfort zone This person has been in a stuck in a comfort zone for a long time And uh, you know closed mouths don't get fed and I feel like that's what's going on with this person here Kept your mouth closed long enough. You don't get that nourishment. You need, you know, don't receive And uh, yeah Definitely trying to make a heartbreak recover a loss There's some maybe some kind of argument Or um, a divorce or a separation Some kind of loss this person is dealing with some depression heartbreak I feel like they want to um, or they cause that to you And um, whichever and they're not really giving me this fully, but I do feel like this person wants to change all that Come in and recover the losses is what I'm hearing And in order to do this they have to make some kind of lifestyle change and they know it and they realize it So I feel like even with this queen of cups here Um, they've kept the lid on their feelings and their emotions for a very long time Maybe even hid them. Look at the lid covering the cup Angels on each side This person like I feel like they see you as a blessing We've got cherub down here Virgo, I mean I don't know how much of this is going to be uh, look at the seashell there There's just an energy this person clammed up their feelings But I but I feel like this person is a very nurturing supportive person, but did not really share the depth of their emotion Maybe that weren't even aware of it themselves. Okay, so I definitely feel like this person is um, gonna come in Right, but I mean Virgo.  I don't know Virgo I don't like I said You'll have to go back and listen to your sign because it may not be for you, but as far as you go I mean, I feel like for you, you're definitely Also in this position of making a lifestyle change for yourself and seeing what else is out there Um, if there's any other, um opportunities for love in your life I I definitely feel like you're making some changes here in your life and getting real With how you feel and and I do feel like you are keeping your eyes open You know, um, I do feel like for some of you also that um You you you have your ideals when it comes to love and and relationships But you um, you're looking at you're being very grounded. You're looking at Relationships to you are people that you connect with they got to come real they got to come correct They got it's got to be a tangible thing.    You're not giving yourself to fantasies or Things that are up in the cloud or these crazy hopes and wishes and dreams. You're staying very grounded You're you're back here on the ground if if you if you've you may have always been on the ground You're not living in like this hopeless dreamy kind of thing here and I don't know why I don't often think that that's a Virgo trait to be honest with you I honestly feel like Virgos are very like what are you talking about? Like Just don't you see what's going on around you? You know, but I kind of feel like you're very down the terra firma here and that's good You're keeping things real with yourself. So all right, I'm gonna leave that there for you Virgo Hope you enjoyed that that was a little bonus reading for Friday I did say it was going to be on saturday But I think I'm I'm gonna have to wait and see because I don't want to like um I don't want to bombard you guys with too many readings. That might be way too much But um, yeah, I'm gonna leave that there and I will see you back here Definitely sunday 1 p.m. Eastern for the live stream pop in become a member of my channel And you can get some free readings 33 cents a day for that membership And then we'll see you back here sunday night. All right, Virgo. Bye


Well, there's lots to talk about and let's get started. Welcome everybody to the fall 2020 CNI virtual meeting and you've joined us for the first project briefing session of that meeting. I'm Cliff Lynch, I'm the director of CNI and I'm delighted that you're here with us. I want to note that the session is being recorded and will be available. The recording will be available after just a couple of very quick things because I know we all know much more about zoom than we ever thought we would. We're muted at the moment, except for our speakers, and you can use the Q&A box to ask questions for years for this of the speakers will deal with all of those at the end of the presentation. There is also a chat, and you're welcome to use that for comments. As we go along. This closed captioning is available on this recording. If you would like to make use of that. And you're welcome to introduce yourself in the chat don't feel you have to but we'd be happy to have you. With that, I'm going to introduce our speakers. Diane Goldenberg heart of CNI will beam into existence after our presentations are complete to moderate the Q&A session. Martin Halbert, an old friend of CNI's who's worked with us for many years and many capacities and done a lot of fascinating work is now at the National Science Foundation as a rotating program officer and I'm delighted to have him back with us. He is going to be joined by Lance Val from the science office at the US Department of Energy, and they're going to talk to us about a collaboration that they've had in place to support a platform for providing access to funded scholarly publication as part of the, the public access mandates that our funders are putting in place. And with that, I will turn it over to Martin, who is going to start the presentation welcome Martin. Thank you very much Cliff. Thank you for having us here today and we're delighted to be your first set of presenters and this virtual CNI meeting. Lance go ahead and go to the first overview slide. For the presentation, we're going to review the six year collaboration between the National Science Foundation and the Department of Energy, Austin to create the NSF public access repository or NSF par. And we'll give you a little bit of history about this partnership as well as descriptions of the technical implementation details. So many of you will remember the Holdren memo by issued by John P. Holdren in 2013 from under the Obama administration from the off the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, which directed agencies that issued more than $100 million in sponsored programs to develop plans to support public access to the results of research funded by the federal government, especially peer reviewed publications and digital data. Next slide. And many agencies responded to this in the case of NSF. In fact, under Dr Francis Cordoba. We developed this public access plan NSF 1552 if you want to look it up online. It was entitled today's data tomorrow's discoveries increasing access to the results of research funded by the NSF. And it laid out a plan for responding to the Holdren memo. This NSF 1552 plan was developed largely by Amy Friedlander. I want to give her a lot of credit for leading the development of this initiative. But with also many contributions by others at NSF and of course at DOE as you're going to hear on next slide lands. So just a very high level scan of the 1552 plan. It laid out a set of goals whereby NSF would create an open flexible and incremental approach. And those are my emphasis in that quote to develop this extended infrastructure to deposit publications by NSF awardees. And it in particular called out this notion that we would work with other federal agencies and in particular, department of energy in this collaborative infrastructure that you're going to hear a little bit about and I'm very proud of this collaboration. I think it represents a great example of interagency work and reuse of software and expertise to accomplish this federal public access mandate. So over to you Lance. Thank you, Martin. As Cliff said, and another said my name is Lance Val. I am the assistant director for the applications development and operations with the Department of Energy's Office of Scientific and Technical Information. We are hosted and we are hosted in Oak Ridge and that's going to come into play pretty importantly in just a few minutes when I start diving into some of this technology. And once the time when I do these sorts of presentations I have to ask the facilitator to give me just a little extra time so I can get through my whole title I know it takes up quite a bit of time there so. But I do appreciate this opportunity and as Martin alluded to this collaboration started back in 2013 or 2014. I've been with the project since the very beginning as the project coordinator and project manager from the Department of Energy side. After discussions with Amy Freelander and others at NSF NSF did decide to utilize the same formatting for their public access repository as the Department of Energy did, and we have called that repository or that process we refer to it as pages, or public access gateway for energy and science for the department, but at Austin, we have been providing public access since 1947 through through Austin at the department. We've been all digital since around 2000 so 20 years and I've been at the department now since 2005 so I've been in this space for 15 years. We provide public access to a variety of scientific and technical information, except in manuscripts technical reports data software patents videos, we have a litany of different products that we host. And those are sub products also gov is our umbrella product and then we have niche products for each of these that allow users to drill down into more detail. The slides are lagging just a little bit here we go. This is very familiar with STI management, we have a specialized program that we refer to as step or the scientific and technical information program that collects all of the R&D results for the department both labs are national labs at DOE we have sponsored 17 national labs, as well as our grantees or our financial awardee recipients. We have a corporate responsibility. It's not just the Office of Science. We have the corporate responsibility across all programmed office and across the entire department. We have a specialized tool that is an electronic ingest tool that we use for this we refer to as elink or energy link. And currently we're processing 50,000 or over incoming STI products annually and that goes back to that list of product types that I mentioned earlier. Through STIP and through elink, we were and continue to be well positioned to extend our existing infrastructure to accommodate accepted manuscripts. After that 2013 OSTP memo went out, we felt that we were, we felt confident that we were able to extend our infrastructure and our knowledge to assist other federal agencies that may be interested in NSF took a step on that offer. Our approach is extensible not only to NSF but to other agencies. We also work with DOD's DTECH to implement their public access plan. Our submission infrastructure is well established. Like I said, we've been doing this digitally for 20 years now and can be customized to meet the needs of other agencies, which you'll see very shortly how we did customize our infrastructure to allow for NSF's public access. So we set that partnership or they saw that opportunity and they reached out for the partnership with that long term goal being preservation and access not just immediate access not your short short term access and that will come into play in just a few more than minutes as well. NSF PAR deployment working with NSF we developed what Martin referred to earlier as the NSF public access repository or NSF PAR that is a submission tool. And that submission tool allows NSF PIS to directly deposit peer reviewed published journal articles and jerryed conference papers into a repository at NSF NSF public application is a dissemination product that is a special product for these peer reviewed journal articles and conference papers. So there are two sections for NSF PAR we have NSF PAR the submission tool that allows for the submission, and then we have NSF PAR public, which is the dissemination portion of that. And it's the dissemination for NSF supplied metadata and the appropriate full text metadata and links from chorus, which I'll get to in just a moment what that course part means. But we also have the potential for adding additional product types which include data, which NSF and DOE are currently working on together to see how they may want to approach that and I think Martin will touch on that briefly later. Just with DOE pages, it is a hybrid model. It both consists of NSF PI supplied records as well as chorus supplied supplemental records which are used to supplement the collection and I'll get to that more detail in just a few moments. There was an integration at the technical level. There was a lot of integration that had to go on here to make this to make this work and how we did that we started with a single sign on that was the the most far reaching inter-agency collaboration that we worked through with this. What we worked to do was have a seamless handoff between research.gov and NSF PAR. NSF PAR the submission tool and the dissemination tool are actually hosted in Oak Ridge where research.gov and all of the NSF related products are hosted in the in the DC metro area. So we worked with their team to have this seamless handoff a researcher logs into research.gov they have that portal. They click on a link to submit these manuscripts they're taken to NSF or NSF PAR that's hosted in Oak Ridge seamlessly they never know that they've left those servers they're all government hosted government funded government protected servers. Along with that their SSO passes us certain information. Part of that information is their unique user ID so we know who that user is and along with that they pass us that unique ID we're able to then subsequently turn around using a open NSF award API which is that next bullet there we're able to auto populate a listing of that that researchers that PIs their awards and they're able to associate their publications directly with their awards through that API integration. So if I'm a if I'm an NSF PI a log into research.gov I want to submit a public public access manuscript. I click on the link. I'm taking over to NSF PAR. I don't know that I've left NSF servers. Some information is passed along to there. I enter a do I enter some metadata upload my full text my my accepted manuscript of my journal article and then I'm able to associate which award I'm submitting that on behalf of NSF and it's for easy steps. We also have a rest API that is used for integration between DOE and NSF data stores so that all of this information can be passed back and forth seamlessly from NSF servers to to NSF into their media stores both the metadata and the links to the full text for their project reporting that's how the PIs will then go in and add those manuscripts to their projects for their program officers to then approve at the end of their reporting cycle. We also use a certificate authenticated full text service. So many of you are probably familiar with the holding memo the public access memo. And what that calls for is that these peer review journal articles these jury conference papers that they're made publicly available after a at an administrative interval or maybe you've heard the term embargo. In NSF along with DOE we chose a 12 month embargo for that. And so, all of these are these accepted manuscripts are made available 12 months after the publication. However, many times there are needs for NSF PO's to have access to those embargo full text beforehand to make sure that what their PIs are submitting is accurate. Or they can approve their project report. So what we did is we created an authenticated a certificate authenticated service for that. So inside of the NSF management system otherwise known as e jacket. These PO's can have direct links to do we hosted servers to have access to these embargo full text before the public has access to those so they can view those they can read those they can make sure that the PI has acknowledged NSF appropriately that the science is tied to the award, and so forth. Next slide. There we go. We also integrated with some third party services those third party services two of those that I'll that I'll talk about today are Crossref. The reason that we integrate integrate with Crossref is do I services of course what we're able to do for these PIs the PIs once they get and they're ready to submit their publication, they don't have to sit there and hand type auto hand type all of that metadata the title, the publication date, a list of authors a list of other organizations or kid IDs. If they're if they have that DOI that digital object identifier, they can put that in a box they can hit submit and will auto populate that metadata for them using integration with Crossref API's. If they don't have that or say do have to type that metadata in the there but the vast vast majority of these submissions are done through what we call auto population. So they don't even have to type that meditating and they can put that DOI in they can get their metadata auto populated once they verify that this is the correct information. They hit a button they're taken to a screen where they upload that accepted manuscript version, then they hit another button they associate their correct award they verify all that information is correct they submit it and they're done they're taken back to research.gov. Fairly seamlessly. We've also integrated with this is a big a big shout out to Amy Freelander her part here we integrated with the ISS in database and international standard serial number. It provides lookup services for ISS ends and journal titles for those that are being manually submitted. So those that may not have a DOI or we they weren't able to auto populate that information for whatever reason, manually putting that in. It's important to the integrity and the metadata integrity of this repository to NSF that those ISS ends and those journal names were authoritative and authentic. So what we did. We integrated with the ISS in database, we have top of heads we have top of heads for both the ISS in and their journal name or and or the journal name so all of those are authentic author authoritative journal titles and in and ISS ends that are paired up with the submission so that metadata integrity is solid. We also integrated with chorus chorus is a consortium of publishers that have worked with the federal government to say that we will support public access as it is defined in the holding memo NSF and do we both have agreements with chorus and chorus is used again as a supplement. Neither do we pages nor NSF par rely on the publisher for public access or for dark archiving of these records. These records are treating a supplemental to the researcher supplied records, we wanted our repositories to be publisher agnostic. So the publisher decided that they were going to get out of the public access game NSF and do we, we knew that it was important to have that long term preservation and access to these accepted manuscripts. In this process chorus metadata is ingested and links to the bor or the publisher's version of record, if and when that bor is made publicly available, chorus allows for full text indexing of articles to enhance this search position. So what we do every night as we go out and we do a specialized query on crossref APIs and we ingest all of the appropriate NSF related NSF funded and related articles into par. And then we process those to say, are these publicly available will be publicly available. What version has the publisher made available is it the version of record or is it is it a publisher's version of the accepted manuscript. All of that goes into this calculation for what we call the best available version and there's a hierarchy there that is related to exactly what the publisher makes available. The key objective is that for DOE pages and for NSF par, we want public access to that best available version while not being reliant directly on the publishers for that long term access. And important part of this is that chorus does allow for that full text indexing. So what we do is we they make a version of their full text available, it's downloaded text is extracted from that and then that PDF is thrown away that PDF is not dark archive, the dark archiving is is directly as sorry they're downloaded the full text is directly related to full text indexing for search precision and accuracy. We don't keep that for any amount of time. Until we get that full text out we throw that out. This is that best available version concept just a little bit deeper on that. What what what occurs inside of the NSF par and DOE pages is this comparison. It's submissions of NSF PI submissions along with this collaboration with publisher from chorus and crossref and the in the intersection of those allows for this best available version. This course offers a single feed for all publishers so so we don't have to go out and have individual agreements which I remember back in 2013 timeframe, or even before DOE was seeking to have these individual relationships with individual publishers course course kind of packaged into one package and allows us to have one agreement with them, and then the publishers agree to a set of standards, the best available version, of course is going to be that publishers version of record when and if they do make that available, followed by the publishers accepted manuscript version, and then the NSF supplied PI, or sorry that NSF PI supplied version. This course allows that standardized metadata including the funding sources, the licensing the start dates for those licenses, all of those go into allowing for public access to happen. These are just a few screenshots of NSF par public this is that public version that we're that we're seeing here. We know that this is a version of a record that goes directly to the publisher's version of records so we know that through our calculations looking at that metadata that we know that this publisher at that DOI has made their VR available. So that's what we make available to the public. There's a little open lock there that's an open access typically that open lock indicates this is open access so if a researcher or the public went and they searched on this record and NSF par they would be taken directly to the publishers version of record regardless of whether there was an NSF supplied am for that or not. However, if the publisher decided to take this version offline, we would then be able to make that am version available subsequently after that. This is actually a publisher's accepted manuscript that that second tier of the best available, a best available version that I was referring to earlier, and you can see here that this APS physics article actually directly acknowledges chorus on this accepted version so the user found this particular record in NSF par they clicked on that DOI they would be taken to a landing page and they would have direct access to this publisher am version. And then this is a this is a record that were the best available version happens to be the open version of that free publicly accessible am that was submitted by an NSF PI so what this tells me is when I look at this is that the publisher would make this either the version of record or the am available on their platform, or we didn't recognize that in the metadata. So if a user came they found this record they clicked on that accepted manuscript link and they would be able to download that version that was directly submitted by the PI. So you can see how that best available version higher he kind of flows down from there. And I think Martin I'll turn it over to you. Sure, just to bookend this we the system as it currently currently exists in all the functionality that Lance went through. We are now calling par 1.0. And we are now actively in the development planning process for what we are considering par 2.0. And it will feature a number of new upgrades. A set of improved workflows for award link management functions what I mean by that is our researchers have the capacity to link the publications to the specific awards that funded the activity. We have some new capabilities to let them edit those links and manage them a little bit more effectively. Other things that are coming are perhaps I am modest upgrade but one that is important in many cases. We also have funded workshops and the workshop reports that come out of those things are not typically juried or always let's say juried papers, but rather separate freestanding workshop reports and we think that's important to capture as well. And probably the biggest set of work that we're going to be undertaking and over the coming months is upgrades to the NSF par that will allow research data sets to be recorded and submitted to the system in terms of metadata do is other persistent identifiers. And that is very much in the spirit of the Holdren memo from 2013 so it's very important to me to see that par fosters good or best practices in terms of research data management. There will be NSF. I'm particularly interested in research proposals that foster good research data management practices. We have to current dear colleague letters that are still active. Regarding, you know, sort of programs that will foster good research data management practices and projects to advance that. And this will collectively comprise what we are terming the par 2.0 system. We don't specifically have a or have a specific timeline for the implementation yet, but we're hoping to achieve, you know, really a significant amount of progress by the end of calendar. 21. With that, Lance and I would be happy to answer any questions people have. I see. There's a message. What is NSF protocol to ensure PIs comply with the NSF public access policy in making their research data and publications publicly available well if you're familiar with the NSF. The NSF G are procedures guide. It requires researchers to deposit currently where we as as is clear from, you know, the presentation on the power right now. You know, we've focused for the last few years on articles but now we're really stepping up to the issue of data data is a much more complicated topic, obviously it. Data set can be anything from 20 kilobytes to 20 petabytes. And we've had to think through, you know, what sort of repository records we will be ingesting into the system to accommodate, you know, good access to data sets. But that's that's really the focus of the work that Lance and I are in our teams are working on right now is to lay out that workflow. That was really interesting. Thank you so much, Martin and Lance for that presentation. And thank you to everyone who has made time out of your day to join us here at CNI fall 2020 meeting I'm Diane Goldenberg Hart. At this time, I am very pleased to keep the floor open for questions if there are any other questions or comments for our speakers we have a couple more minutes here. I see that Martin has shared some links there. Those are just the links to the two dear colleague letters that I mentioned, if people are interested in them. Thanks Martin. I just, I was wondering if I know you mentioned, I think Lance mentioned that other agencies are also being brought into the system. I think you mentioned DoD. Are there active plans to expand across federal agencies or what's what's happening on that front. So, good question. So, right now we are not working with any other agencies directly to implement pages or a power like repository we're continually open to that. We do field many many questions across the various agencies for helping people to instantiate a public access plan. But for now, DoD NSF and the Department of Energy remain steadfast partners, and we are all very appreciative of the partnership across and what that means for both federal government and individual agencies but we are not currently working with any other agencies. Happy to go. Okay. Thank you for that. And we just saw a chat. Okay, so I just chatted out those links that Martin shared to all attendees. And if you still can't see them, let us know but everyone should be able to see those now. All right. Well, if there are no other questions, and we are right at the half hour here. I just want to take just a quick minute here to remind everyone that we will be having another session in in a half an hour it will be high fidelity connecting information for better research reproducibility with Terry Wheeler and Peter Oxley of the National Cornell Medical College. In the meantime, I'm going to go ahead and stop the recording on this session. But if you'd like to hang around and sort of approach the podium as it were, please feel free to do so I can unmute you and you can ask live questions, or make live comments. And we'll chat with our presenters and thank you so much again for joining us here today and I hope that you'll stay on for more sessions at CNI. Thank you so much Martin Lance that was really helpful. Thank you Cliff for having us and Diane for facilitating. And I look forward to hearing about the version two and the research data set links. That develops. That's all our wonderful direction. So thank you.