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Let's say I'm good, Andrew. We might not end good, but let's start off good. Why? Why are we not ending good? Have you ever met? We never met. I never met you in person. Cause I saw your teaser video. Oh, you liked it. No, I didn't. By the way, which one? He has a lot of teaser videos. By the way, Andrew doesn't tease. There's nothing as a Andrew tease.  There's no tease. Okay, I don't like the word tease for Andrew videos.  It is just jokes. It is just jokes. Jokes get slapped as we have learned this past weekend. That's true. Oh, we coming in. We coming in. Just know how you're doing. How was everybody's week? How was everybody's week though? Oh man, who cares? All right. Can't talk about it. You know why? Because it was overshadowed. I forgot what happened. My week was not overshadowed. Wait, what happened? I got damned. What happened? What happened? He said the week was overshadowed. Yeah, by a smack, but go ahead. No, man. If Will Smith, you know, putting hands on Chris Rock overshadowed your week, you need a life. What about? You overshadowed his own Emmy. That's his life here, Oscar. Oscar, that's him. Yeah. I got a life. I got my braces removed this week. What are you talking about? It is. It was. The week that I had... You've had braces? I got braces on Thursday. I did a four day deal.  I'll see you in less. Let's do a C.L.S. He saw me Tuesday.  I got them on Thursday and I got them off yesterday.  I ain't built for it. I had braces, but I had them as a child and I still have my retainer permanently at the back of both of my top, like the top teeth and the bottom teeth so the teeth won't shift. Key word is a child when you have them showed. Thank you. Perfect. When you have them. I got the Invisalign. I'm getting that next week. Just do that. I'm getting the next week. No, he got enough money to buy teeth. Just buy the teeth by everybody else. That's true. But I still have good teeth. My dentist wants me to keep my teeth. I don't know if they're as good as they think they are. My dentist said I got good teeth. I just got a couple crooked ones in the back that just need to be realigned before I get the veneers. Okay, fine, so they can see and print. I've always got a good tooth. You have a good smile. You do have a good smile. I will say that. You shouldn't really do anything. You've been very successful with this smile thus far. Why change it? I mean, because I feel like you can always be better, you know what I mean? And when you're going to the dentist and your dentist is cleaning, the dentist is like, you know, if you adjusted this here and adjusted this there, you could do this. That's how I guess you, bro. And by the way, I'm going to be 44 this year. It's all about having the back teeth. The older you get, you got to have your back teeth. So I want my back teeth. You can buy them if you lose them. I'm still going to keep my parents teeth, man.  They're losing it. They're dropping like flies. That's what I'm saying, man. That's what I'm saying. But they can get dentures. I do. I keep buying them. My dad keeps breaking them, motherfuckers. I don't know. It's just crazy. How old are they? My dad's 77, I think. 78. I want my teeth at 79. You got to buy teeth probably at the age. I'm going to get it. But buying teeth is great. Yeah. I'm just preserving them for as long as I can. Okay. That's fair. I will tell you this. I've been to the county jail. Long as I've been in the county jail was 45 days. I'm not saying braces feel like the county jail. When you get braces taken off, it does feel like when you get released. Oh, that's so bad. Why was it so bad? Yeah, I was like, what was so painful about it?  So it was like this wire scratching the back of my mouth. And every time I would chew, I would chew on the wire. And then like the braces were cutting all of this. All of this. And then it's like, I would eat and then gargle. And it would just be like chunks of food. I'm like, I don't have time for this. I'm not doing this for six months. Yeah, the screen. All you have was six months. I had braces for two years. I had the six months. Oh my God. I'm not doing it. Yeah, six months is a lot.  Yo, my dentist said when I saw you on the schedule for yesterday, she's like, I knew what you was here for. She's like, I knew what you was coming back for. She's like, I knew exactly what you was coming back for. She said you want them off. If you say braces is not an adult thing, you shouldn't do that. No, braces is a childhood sport. Yeah. That's a young person's sport. I do think it's ridiculous when grown adults get braces. Yeah, come on. They'll be like 60-year-old ladies getting braces for what? Well, she got to get a mirror, probably, if she's single. You got to put your glasses on. You think men that age care about teeth? Well, what do they care about at 60? If it would get wet. Heart beat? You want to say, I don't even think it's wet. Like, are you going to be alive? Miltrate! Miltrate! Just cough, it's still alive. You're not up COVID. Like, that's all I need. Every time you don't know what you're going to have a heart attack. No, no mercy. And then you can hear your teeth moving when you sleep. Yeah, yeah. I woke up to the sound of my teeth moving and excruciating pain. I'm like, oh, yes! But I think it's like if you don't have teeth and when you get older, your mouth just moves by itself. If you ever see the older people without dentures, their mouth just moves by themselves. I do that now. That's why she told me to get braces. Oh, wow. I was doing that now. People have always been noticing that for years. They're like, I think Charlotte do coke. Oh, because you're kind of like a drunken. Like, you know what I'm saying?  She told me I would have jaw problems in the future. I'm getting Invisalign next week on the 7th. Okay. On the 7th. Invisalign's fun.  That's true. I mean, I know people now who will be talking. They have like the veneers or dentures or whatever, and they be flying out sometime. No. Like the one tooth will fly out for real. Oh, yeah, that happened to my eye.  You fought somebody in the mouth? That shocked you. I had braces. And I still got the mark right here from the braces.  I never want to punch somebody in the mouth with braces. Why did you punch somebody in the mouth? Because you got anger problems. I was young and dumb. I don't do that no more. What was the reason? Do you remember? I can't even tell you. Oh, God. Everybody should have a reason as to why they hit people. Yeah, let's talk about that. What is a justifiable reason? Is a joke justifiable? To get punched in the mouth? Yeah.  Let's talk about it. I want to hit a take. Yes. Go shows. It was heartbreaking to watch. It was tragic. No, I'll jump to the side. I mean that. It was tragic. These are my idols. Yeah. I got rid of the wise tragic, but good. Yeah, like both of them. Like Will, my idol, it's been heartbreaking to see what he's been going through the last few years because I literally grew up watching Fresh Prince. I thought he was the coolest person on the planet. And I'm sure like part of my identity was for him just watching this guy. He's like, oh man, he's like cool. He's funny. Girls like him. He's charismatic. Like I just thought he was the man. Like I thought, I thought Will Smith was so dope growing up that I thought he was the star of Independence Day. He wasn't? I watched it recently. He was the star of the Independence Day. He's in like 20% of the movie. Really? He's one of the people in the movie. I didn't know that. I mean either.  Isn't that what the aliens? It's yeah, when the aliens come down. And I think it's like a, what is it called a group cast or something. Right, okay. But one of those things. Which is the man. And then Chris Rock is like, you know, at least 50% of reason I do comedy now. Like, I mean like I saw him growing up and I was just, before I even wanted to do comedy, I was like, oh wow, people can think like this. You could have like the devil's advocate point of view, but like really good rationale and like, I think he's probably the greatest comedic mind alive. Like, you know, maybe Dave is better at performing, but comedic mind? No, Dave, Chris is a better stand-up than Dave. No, I just agree with that though.  And I saw Will do something that was so insecure, like wildly insecure. I'm not even talking about this. I'll just get it out. Let me just say the insecure though. She's writing it down. I can't remember. So I can remember what she said. I saw Will do something that was so wildly insecure because he initially laughed at the joke and then saw his wife not laughing. I'm a comic. I go to comedy shows and I perform. I do jokes all the time. I've seen these dudes. I've seen the dudes out in the first date and they stop laughing so they can get pussy. Right? They're laughing with a date with the girl.  That's just not funny.  That's just not only getting no pussy. Imagine the guy that says wife. But that's his wife, bro. Like you should know what time it is.   She's on record saying shows it to the world real quick. Let me jump in as a black woman. Yeah. Hair is very sensitive to black women in general. And Jada Pinkett has to own that she has alopecia. She's decided, yes, she could wear a wig if she wanted to, but I think she's decided to walk into her truth. But that comes with a lot of ridicule.  She's just warming up for the moment of, I'm a stand in my truth, but I'm quite sure it's very difficult for her to right now deal with the fact that she's losing her hair. Right, fat people. So I can't say she's proud of it. And I think. So why is G.I. Jane at this?  Demi Moore. Demi Moore look good bald. Demi Moore is not part of this conversation. She's G.I. Jane.  That's the joke. No, the joke is this. The joke is you're joking somebody's wife. And what happened is Chris Rock did it at the Oscars when the Oscars were so white. And Jada Pinkett started that Chris Rock came for her as a black comedian that decided to still do it. And I have no, no judgment that get your check. But why you got him? But if the woman standing up for black people, why would you mock her at the White Oscars Awards? So I believe that smack was from then to now and to everybody that's thinking this is cool to talk about Will Smith's wife in front of him. Anybody wife. Yeah, you can't do that. And I understand that you're a comedian. So I get that. And you can say whatever joke you want to say, but also deal with the consequences and the consequences you might get. Can't escape those consequences. It's illegal. Like, you can't assault people. And by the way, but Will got to deal with his consequences too. But you're not going to have any consequences. Like, how privileged.    I feel uncomfortable. The whole award show must stop for me. I will slap you. No, it didn't stop. Bad man. It didn't stop though. My comfort is more important than Quesla receiving his documentary award.  My comfort and my wife's comfort is more important than everybody else.  Both of you. First of all, but first of all, Will Smith has sat there plenty of times like you even said in the beginning. He chuckled at it because that's what he does. Right. He's good. He also, he also said that is, that's what he does when he's uncomfortable. He said that in his book. Okay. But in his speech, he even alluded to it like, yo, I'm exhausted. You always have to smile and accept disrespect because you're famous. So don't come. So don't come back. How about, how about you? I thought Oscar. I thought Oscar is so white. Why are you back? No, that's a good point though. Why are you back? Oh, now that you're getting the award, now we all show up. But Andrew, but Andrew, they have got a content. I'm not going to rebut that. I'm not going to rebut that.  And they're like, oh, it's pretty diverse now. But say if you had to cook out when somebody's talking a joke to your wife, you're not going to go after the guy? It depends. Who's making jokes about how long? Exactly. And that's the problem. It's the problem. It's the problem. It's the problem. He weighs 140 pounds. If I'm doing it, maybe not. It works. It works. If your job is to roast me and my wife at a public event, which is what this is. I didn't know that's who that was. No, that's the job. This is the job of the comedian is to roast the people that are sitting in the front where the cameras can see him. It's not to roast the people. You know when you get that seat that you are going to be roasted. That's part of the event. It's just like when the president shows up to the whatever dinner, he knows that he's going to get roasted at that dinner. This is part of the job. And you know what else you get? You get the whole world going, oh my God, you're the best actor ever and here you go, this award. But part of the job is you get roasted. And every one of them know that.  All right, one more thing. Real quick, going back to why I come to the Oscars because he deserves to be there. He deserves the award. So yeah, she enlightened the fact that you guys are looking over black talent for what reason. We're just as talented. So yeah, I'm going to bring my eyes to the Oscars because I deserve to be here. So I got to dispute that part. But secondly, why does everybody have to know if Jada Peek had killed herself, then we'll say, you know what? We were right. We should have made that joke. It's like people, you have to understand, people have feelings and you can't go so far. Will has taken a year. Like this has been a year of people talking about him and his wife and he's tired. That's what that came down to. Will Smith usually keeps it together. So the fact that he lost it is a sign that, yo, people have breaking points. A lot of it was online and now he actually gets to see somebody sit in his face to his wife. Now that's why I think he took action. I think the problem with us as people is that we judge people's totality of their whole lives based off these bits and pieces of what we get. Like even right now, we're trying to piece together what would make Will Smith snap. I can tell you right now, that joke was 1% of why Will Smith went up there and smacked Chris Rock. That joke was 1% of why he did that.   It stems from his childhood when his dad used to beat on his mom and he said he never intervened and he's had to live with that forever. Now think about the pressure of being Will Smith since you've been the French Prince. Will has told y'all, my life has been a lie.  No matter what somebody says about me, no matter what somebody does to me, take the high road, take the high road, take the high road, take the high road. I think what we should learn from this situation and what Kendra just said and shows isn't wrong either.   That's breaking down mentally? Can I make one more clarifying statement? Absolutely a break down. This is one more clarifying statement. And you know who said it was a break down? Will said it was a break down. Hey, bro. You can see that though. That's a projection. Here's one thing. We're assuming, this is another thing that we're doing that I think is very unfair to Chris Rock. We're assuming that Chris Rock was aware of Jada's medical condition. I can tell you 100% he was not aware because he told me he wasn't aware. Exactly. So now this is Jada who's worn short hair before in her career. It's not short hair. It's a broad. It's a difference. Short and broad. That was more of a Caesar. No, it's a broad hair. She has no hair. No, no, no. She has a little bit. She has a little bit. You can look and see. I looked at it. You should look and see. I looked at it. Okay, I'm going to look. But my point is he has no clue that that's what, he has no clue that that is a medical condition and not a choice. He's assuming it's a choice because that's what we would all do. She's a fashionable woman and she looks beautiful with it. Let's not act like she looks bad. It looks so good that it could be a choice.  You have your eyebrows and stuff. We know it's not cancer or anything.  Who else looked beautiful with a shaved head? Demi Moore. Let me connect those two things. G.I. Jane. That is not a bad joke. If somebody made that joke about my wife, I would laugh and everything would be okay. But guess what? It's nothing else we don't know. We don't know how much she's at home crying about losing her hair. That's fair. You know what I mean?  That's fair. Why doesn't Chris Rock know that you're hosting the Oscars? You all got a research team? No. I think that's kind of way. It wasn't a plan joke. It wasn't a plan joke. I heard they gave it to him. No, they said he never did that. No, they said he never did that joke in the rehearsal. I heard We've been beating them up for like a year, like with blogs, with, you know, the, what was it, entanglements, it's just, and people saying it's not even, by the way, all of that stuff, that's not even, that could be part of it, but I'm telling you, people be having issues that we know nothing about. People be dealing with stresses that we know nothing about.    I mean, which, and it's not even that, it's that on top of just dealing with the stress of being willful. You know how stressful that day probably was for Will? Oh, unbelievably stressful. Is this the finally the time? Am I actually gonna get it? You got 50 people trying to get in the Oscars, trying to get in with you. You got family members pulling you this way. Family members pulling you that way.   I mean, this is Chris's joke. This is a tame joke for Chris.  And nobody had a problem with that. Nobody was like, yo, that's disrespectful. Everybody's like, that's hilarious. Hillary Clinton sure is. But if the president spacked him in his face, who could say something? Chris is a joke. Yeah, I guess that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's true. You have the right. I'm giving you the right that as a, because I understand you're a comedian. This is what you do. And you guys, and I do have respect for comedians and I hate that freedom of speech has changed so much that you do gotta watch what you say at different times. But I say, say whatever you wanna say, but just gotta deal with the consequences of what you say. Can I say one thing about that? I agree with you guys. I never tell someone how they should react to a joke. If they're offended, if they're upset, if they're angry, if they're dealing with a personal issue with medical condition, I can't tell you how to act. But there are laws that are in place. And that's where I think the Oscars fail. Well, we got enough money for that lawsuit. That's true. But I think this is where the Oscars fail, Chris and made Chris look like an absolute clown Will came up and slapped him and then he got to stay there for the rest of the Oscars.   You do that in any other establishment. You do that at TGI Fridays. There's not a single business on this planet where you can walk up to someone, put hands on outside of a boxing match and keep it real.  What you saw was the level of celebrity privilege. No, what you saw was them only care about themselves. They knew he was winning that award. Celebrity privilege. So it's like, think about it, because I'm Will Smith, they know Will Smith about the Win Best Actor, right? Bong, you got this moment. You could tell they know they had a moment when the cameras was going back and forth. The camera was a boom. Chris, Will, Chris, Will, Lapita in the back. They know the internet about to go crazy. So now they know the internet about to go crazy. So it's like, you don't tell Will to leave now. Now people want it to an end to see, well, shit, you know the best actor to help. I need to see what Will's gonna say. This is the best thing that's ever happened to the Oscars, to be honest. I mean, actually, the Oscars won that night. Yes, 100%. I never knew about the Oscars before. Yeah, no one talks about that. I mean, I watch it because I work in media, but I will say this was, they had the most Meg, the stallion, performing the Oscars. Like that to me. My six-year-old hated that, by the way. She's, well, Beyonce, I mean, Beyonce even got over it. My six-year-old hated that. She thinks Meg ruined that in contour record. So, Luther Meg, you know what I mean? But I'm just telling you what the six-year-old screams the same. The six-year-old screams was trying to figure out what was going on. She was like, that's not in contour. Right. By the way, I've been watching in contour for a month straight. Fire? I don't know. I keep falling asleep. It's a Pixar movie. It's like, the kids love it. And my kids love watching the random in-contour videos. Oh, it's too much. Shout to Jessica Daryl. I did a movie with Jessica. She plays Luisa in that. All right. But I will agree with you. Like that did show the privilege, but I think it was more so about that. The Oscars winning. And I also think Chris Rock isn't, I mean, I don't know. You said you talked to him. I don't know whatever you could share. But I'm assuming that he's like, he doesn't want to press charges. He didn't want to like get him kicked out. I don't think Chris Rock was awesome. He has to leave. No, Chris understands. And Chris understands what comes to the territory. Chris has been a comedian for a long time. Chris has had to deal with hecklers. He's had to deal with people running up on stage. So it's just weird that it's one of the biggest stages in the world, if not the biggest in entertainment.  But he understands what come with the territory. I'll tell you something that Rock shared. He just was like, hey, even Putin gave a warning. He's the best. Like did we have to go, and I agree, like did it have to go from that to that? But I think once again, we're looking at the joke. And we're thinking it's the joke that set Will off. No. No, man. So the fact that Chris Rock has made jokes about Jada before, I think if that was the first thing Chris Rock ever said, we would have a whole different outcome. It's not the first thing that he said. And not the first thing he said about her at the Oscars. Yeah, I think that's part of it. I mean, you know, five years ago when Chris, Chris hosted the Oscars, it was during the whole Oscars, so white controversy. And you know, Jada Pika started it. Yeah, I don't know Jada started it. Because Will wasn't going to be nominated. It was Will wasn't going to be nominated for a movie. Now that is true. And there were some other people she felt was snubbed. And she was just saying, she made a video about the Academy. And that's really how it began. And that's why she asked Chris, not the host. Right.  I'm not, I'm never going to tell you how to do your money or whatever your platform is. But in his monologue, which I was disappointed in, whether you agree with Jada was doing or not, she was fighting for black people and you are a black man. So this night, you're the host of it.  She's just being a comedian.  Because guess what?  Can I ask you a question? But let me finish my statement first. All right, go, go, go.  You have a, you have a, I think you have a duty to stand for your people in those moments. You could have did the monologue without playing Jada peeking when she was fighting for your people. And I think, I think, I think that's one question though. Go ahead. Yes. Do you get upset when black basketball players dunk on other black basketball players? How is that even related in this conversation? They're both black. How does that even make sense? How you going to disrespect them by dunking them, putting your nuts all over his face? Andrew, are you serious right now?  Why not?  The analogy makes no sense. You know what I'm saying?  I'm down for your call. It's competition, no, it's show. I'm over for you for the all-star game. That's the job. He's a comedian. The job of the comedians to make the jokes. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. He let his nuts hang. You're saying a basketball player, dunks on a basketball player, because that's his job. That is not the same. And you're saying a comedian's job is to go out there and do that. And dunk on people, that's it. But here's the thing, no, no, one thing, one thing. One thing, one thing, one thing. We've seen dunks. Well, dude dunked on them.  So he threw a punch. Definitely. Or he threw the basketball. Or he tried to fight the person. Now, whether he overreacted or not, that's not on us to say, but we've seen it go both ways. I can't choose how people react. That's right. Again, I'm not saying that. But there are laws, and you're not allowed to break the law, usually. And usually, this is why I was upset at the Oscars, that they made Chris look like a clown. And then Chris also did some goofy shit, too, in my opinion. But like, and again, this is my idol. What about Chris handed it? Nah, he handled Chris handed it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The affection show. Amazing. As a comic, and this is my idol. But as a comic, when Will said, keep my wife's name out your mouth. And Chris goes, I will. No, I agree with that. You can slap me, you can do whatever you want.  That's it.  No. I'm not, I'm not going back to work. Now you won. I'm not, no, no. I win because I'm respecting myself. If you're not going to kick him out after he came up here, you're not going to keep me secure.  By the way, by the way, see me backstage.  You don't see how good he is. We all thought it was fake. We did. We did. Can't people laugh? But real quick, Andrew, and I say this respectfully, so you're missing the black component in this. And it's something you're not. Which is often true. Yeah, which is often true. This is not disrespect, but there's a part to this that you're not going to be able to relate to. What is the part? The part is the fact that Chris Rock, I feel as though, he understood that, OK, I'm in this moment. I have this man, Will Smith. And I have joked his wife before, right? I think he got it as a black man, like, OK.  Like, oh, OK. He did. You know, and I feel like that's why I said I went back to the Oscars so white. Chris Rock was out of pocket when he played Jada because she was fighting for black people. So at some point in time, you do. You could be a comedian, but there is a black situation that we got going on in our community that has to be honored at times. There's another black component to that, too. The black component is Chris has been in the game for a long time, right? So Chris understood the magnitude of the moment. He understood where he was at. He understood what just happened. And he understood that Questlove was up for the award that he was presenting. Chris didn't want to mess up that moment. For Questlove, he didn't want to mess up the moment at the Oscars. Like, I guarantee you when Chris speaks, you're going to hear Chris say, how would I look fighting? Me and Will fighting on the goddamn stage on live national television.  And again, I just want to say, I agree with you. That's an experience I can never understand. I can only speak on it from a comedian's experience, which is probably something a lot of people don't relate to, which is protecting what we do and understanding that that is the job description. I'll go with you on that. And what you're saying is he's got to balance both of those.  And I'm out here going, as a comedian, do your thing, bro, it don't matter. You wanted to hear jokes. You wanted to hear him keep poking the bear because Andrew is leading out of the Caprio in that goddamn movie with a bear.   He's the revenant.  No, no, no, no. The bear got him, Charlamagne.   He was trying to, like, move. Yeah, he was more like, you know. Dry hump.  He was warming up the meat, bruh.  Cold meal, you know what I'm saying?  I think maybe. I think we could look at it like that. No, okay. This is Hollywood news. No, but I was going to say this. Now, this is what you will be happy about. You know Chris Rock sells, have sword. They're saying that his next show sold out faster than it sold in a month. So, like, this is going to win. Again, we're talking, first of all, everybody's winning because we're talking about them. Even Will Smith, he apologized, who had to do a tour and talk about it. Chris Rock, everyone's going to want to hear from him. So, as a comic, he has comedy gold. Like, his tour will sell out. By the way, and I said this on Breakfast Club this morning, but it's the truth, man. You got number one, it's the Luke Chris Rock, but who's checking on Chris? Because everybody's talking about the childhood trauma that Will had, that he clearly projected on the Chris, right? But Chris' show, Everybody Hates Chris, was literally about his child and how he used to get bullied all the time. So, think about that, right?  And so then somebody put hands on you because they couldn't touch the person they really wanted to touch. So, how do you think Chris feels in that moment? He was humiliated on national television in front of millions of people. Like, listen, like I always say, you can't tell somebody how to react, but I still don't think Chris deserved it. No, Chris does not deserve it. Nah, I don't think he deserved it. How about this? I feel like he deserves it. Hey, I'm gonna see you backstage. Word off. No, because Chris wasn't doing it for Chris. Will was doing it for the public. I think he's doing it for his wife. I think he's doing it for his kids.  No, because the joke wasn't backstage. The joke was in front of all of them. Yeah, but he had a thing. It wasn't even one of those jokes where the crowd was like, oh, nobody would have even paid that joke no attention if Will didn't react like that. Man, here's the deal. These are the people that matter most. Willow, Jaden, Will his son, Will Jr., and Jada Pecan Smith.  But you know what I say to Jada? And I was like, once again, you can't tell somebody right, Jada, I'm gonna handle that motherfucker later. That's it. Okay, I'm gonna handle that motherfucker later. Be a white woman.   No, I don't believe that. No, no, no, that's cool. That's cool too.  I don't hear you. I don't hear him, bro.  Either way is cool with me. I hear what you say in Kendra, and I definitely hear what I say. I'm Karen. That's the new woman who will come out. I am Karen. I stop everything when I'm in convenience. He should have handled the backstage like a joke.   Yeah, I think I'm thinking. Nobody's talking about the fact he won Best Actor at the time. Nobody knew that. Nobody is crazy.  But real quick, I don't think we should, I mean, first of all, so it's a question. Anybody's thinking getting Jiggy with the club. So lose to Questlove, but I don't think it's fair to say he's stepped on his moment because he wasn't thinking about Questlove. Most of it wasn't thinking, period. He wasn't thinking. He blacked out. But there's a show called Black Dog. No. You know what I'm saying? He whited it up. There's a whole show called Black Dog. He whited it up. He definitely didn't white out. He definitely didn't white out, bro.  He didn't white it out. Only, I've never seen that before in my life. Oh, welcome to my world, baby. Are you saying you white out because you're saying the white privilege of him smacking him? That was a level of privilege. The actor was a white woman's smack.  But it was because it was done to a black man. But it was by another black man, though. And that's normal for whatever reason, sadly. And it shouldn't be. We have dissected this so in so many different ways. But we're all focused on the wrong thing, man.   But it's a bigger issue, man. That was Will projecting his childhood insecurities on to Chris Rock. He literally has said this a million times.   And this is something else everybody keeps saying. Everybody's like, why he didn't do this to such and such. And why he didn't do this to such and such. They ain't saying it from his face. Exactly. That's it. Say what? He ain't saying it. How y'all know Will? You know it's not safe that they're talking about. But how y'all know Will? How y'all know Will witness past on anybody that said that.  Exactly.  How about this? The flip side of everything. Everyone is saying that Will was supposed to have his night. Why are you playing me on my night? Why are you mentioning my wife on the night supposed to be about me? Now, by the way, that's not about him. Come on. That's a great point. The Oscars. He's one of the people that's not my night. But they're selling it as Will Smith's night.   The respect is being acknowledged with the joke. That's how we acknowledge. People who aren't famous or aren't nominated don't get acknowledged in the jokes. Nobody's going, uh, Miss in seat R13 on the balcony.  Martin used to kill people. You know why? But you know why that's a great point? It's a great point because if I'm Will, and it depends on how you feel, right?  Don't ask me nothing about my relationship. You know what I mean?  This is my night. I want to enjoy. Yeah, why not? Why are we not talking about the entanglement? Where was that energy when, uh, what's her name? Who? The entanglement. I don't think you get about that. No, I think Will was being Will. He's talking about him. Listen, no, real quick. Real quick. No, real quick, Will Smith was being Will Smith that we all know them, which is the guy that just takes it and keeps it going. You know, it has the unbother factor. He's like Musa. Like, I always say, I don't know how Will Smith is always. He knew he couldn't get away with it. If you go to Will Smith's Instagram page, she is always happy. He knew he couldn't get away with it. No, he just had a breaking point. I really don't think he's going to slap a trans woman on the red carpet. Jada could have? Jada could have. Jada could have, maybe. No. Jada could have. It was woman to woman. That's woman to woman. That's woman to woman. That tried to do her dirty. That's woman to woman. Shit. Will knew who he could slap and how he could slap. By the way, anytime a woman says something that's disrespectful, and like you said earlier, you said, what you say to me earlier, that when you're with a man and you shouldn't be arguing with another man, that man should have it. And I feel the same way with a woman. If a woman says something disrespectful and I'm with my woman, that's right. That's right. I agree with that, though. I agree with that. If a man says something disrespectful to my wife, it's like, why would you put us through this? Who? The guy. Like, what are you doing right now? If a man say that again?  I feel the same way. So why are you mad? That's what will smith do. I'm talking about in life. I'm talking about wearing traffic. So that's what I'm saying. I'm right here. That was traffic. That was traffic. That was traffic. That was a performance.  But if it's part of a performance, jokes that you know you're going to be a part of, you know you're there.  I'll tell you what a wise man told me. We all tired, bruh. I don't feel bad for some billionaire that's tired. We all feel bad for people with hundreds of millions of dollars that's sad. You got hundreds of millions of dollars you said. That's right. But first of all, he worked for that hundred million dollars. He wasn't born into it, so we had to struggle and get it. So I think it's unfair. We're still human. People are snapping. And I'll tell you what a wise man told me yesterday. Reality has jumped the shark. Ooh, reality has jumped the shark. Not no TV show, not no movie.  You, I still can't believe you saw that. I was like, that ain't real. I thought it wasn't real too. But people actually laughed. You ain't hear when he smacked the people's laughing. Yeah, they thought it was a skit. Yes! Everybody laughed. You know what made me know it was real? They froze the broadcast. And then the audio was gone. But you could see Will going... And I'm like... Oh yeah, you gotta watch the Japanese version. The Japanese version. That's the next one I watched. They're saying what happened. What are you doing with nothing? I'm sorry. Ignore him. Ignore him.   The Japanese version is just the sound. Exactly. But no way. Who's the one? You wouldn't be able to see it. They're like, come here.  The Japanese version was just the audio. I love that it happened at the Oscars. Because that's supposed to be so prestigious and so elegant. The top of all the award shows. And I feel like sometimes we gotta get wake up. This is a fantasy world we're living in right now. But real life is happening.  That's right. And I'm happy it happened there to wake all the people who live in a fantasy world up. The curtain has been removed. The veil has fallen from everything from Hollywood to politics.   And it should never be a shock to you when you hear these celebrities committing suicide. It should never be a shock to you when you see these celebrities checking in the rehab.  And I know it looks like, okay, you know what? You got all of this fame. You got all of this money. You should be able to deal with regular everyday pressures of life. No, those pressures are multiplied times a hundred. And the reason I'm gonna tell you why they're multiplied times a hundred. Your life isn't under a microscope.   Well, well now. No, no, no.  And this is where you got to give it up to the Kardashians. Not everybody can handle that smoke.  We really don't know. The Smiths, they might not do that. We don't know if the Kardashians are built for it or not. We don't know. Let me tell you why we are. Because they keep renewing a contract. The one that's not built for it. They keep renewing a contract. Now Rob is not built for it. That's why Rob the brother does not participate. Rob ain't built for much of nothing. But I don't mind he shamed like I used to. I'ma mind my business. Like I used to. He's actually built it up. Seven. Seven. Seven. Seven. Seven. Seven. Catch me a dog. But the girls are bigger for it. They keep renewing a contract. Kim Kardashian is a billionaire now. They would have stopped the show if they really felt way about it. Rob Kardashian is the only one. You know what I'm saying? Will been in it for a whole lifetime, 53 years old, even never. Will has literally been, and I want to say to LeBron James or Hollywood, but that would make no sense because he's much older than LeBron James. But there's only a couple of people, black or white, that you can name that have never had no situations. They've never had any off the court, like discrepancies.  This is the first time, we've never seen, the last time I saw Will this angry was when his daddy left on Goddamn FreshPrix and he was crying Uncle Phil.  Literally, the world is in the end, he ain't even got angry. You've never seen this. Oh my god. I ain't know, he wasn't that angry and I am legend. You know he wasn't that motherfucka calmly.  Holy, you don't have the mannequin. You don't remember that one? I don't remember. I don't remember. He ain't slapped the mannequin though. But he hit it. Like, wow. But to the point you're making, I can't even look. But this point you're making, like, Will Smith has had arguably, I mean you could say one of the greatest careers in entertainment history. The guy has been famous and successful since he's what, like 18 years, he's 50. So that's 32 years of unrivaled success. And I think this is something that's probably difficult for him. And no controversy. And no controversy. And this is something that's probably difficult for him. And Jim Carrey went through it too. I think on some level he recognizes it slipping away. He's probably not getting it. Slipping away how? He just want to ask her. Jim Carrey is not a good comparison. He's like going to the next level. He want to ask her right now. Yo, he just had a breaking point. He's sitting next to Denzel. Listen, I love how you broke it down. He's been famous since 18. And this is the first thing that's happened. The movies ain't doing the numbers they used to do. No, that's not true. It is true. No, it is true. It is true. He passed that already. What you're saying was true about six, seven years ago. No, I'm not talking about money. I'm just talking about like... He had a string of movies, five that flopped. Okay. Will became Will again when he got back on social media and you started to see the veil drop a little bit. He started to be more real.  Will Smith, and Will spoke in that interview about how he was trying to shed that character of Will Smith.  He was like, can you imagine having to live life, not even being able to curse? And if you read his book, man, his book is phenomenal. I'm not just saying that because it's Will Smith. His book is really great. He talks about how his whole life he had to play a role. And in Hollywood, he made a decision, I want to be the best actor in the world. And it was like, if you want to be the number one actor in the world, you got to do X, Y, and Z. He's been in character that even that perfect person we saw was a character. But I don't feel bad for that being a success is not a prison. If you don't feel bad for it because you've never been that. That's like saying, yo, we don't feel bad for Michael Jackson being a child. No, I've chosen not to pursue that because it doesn't make me happy. He's chosen to pursue it. He wanted to play by the rules of the system because he wanted success within the system. But you know as well as I do. That's not fair to say. That's not fair. He's saying he can't curse. But you're saying you chose not to be as famous as him. I chose not to pursue a career in that path where I would have to worry about what I say, where I have to worry about what jokes I do. I purposely move myself from the industry because I know I wanted to be myself and I know I want to create independently. I didn't want to create with any shackles on me. I care so much about my art. He cared so much about being the most famous actor. And with that is a cost. You learn that and you learn that by watching other people. You're true and I came in the game later. That's what I'm saying. Well, it was early. That's true. And not only was he early as a Hollywood star, a black Hollywood star. I was getting ready to say that. I didn't want to bring it back up. That don't happen for black people. I was like, yeah. That's true.  It is an incredibly important component. And race plays a part in every single discussion that we have. So it's like to remove it is to not be honest about what we're talking about. The unbelievable pressure to be a young black kid, Will Smith, yeah, to forego college at MIT, like, start there. He's a genius. Number one. So to be a genius, to get into the finest institution on the planet. What is it? MIT.  I believe that he got into MIT. I don't know. I'm not sure he had a crazy. But he's very intelligent. Even that alone, like being the black person that says no to the to MIT, to pursue a rap career. It's like your parents got big. What, what, where did I go? I sound like a teenager, though. But that's why I think Will's journey is so great. And I call him the Willy Lama and I still call him the Willy Lama even after what I saw. Absolutely. Because healing hurts. And if being whole was so easy, if healing was so easy, we would all be whole, but we're not. Guess what we are? Human. You know what I mean? And humans make mistakes. And guess what? Will probably thought he wanted that. And that's one thing he says in his book that's so profound. He says, I spent my whole life, I spent my whole life thinking this is what I needed to gain to be whole. Now I realize I got to spend the rest of my life giving it away to be whole. So imagine thinking that you wanted something. Getting it and realizing this ain't it. And now you feel like you're really in a prison.  But there is certain things that you have to respectfully remove from the public eye, because it is disrespectful to them to share those type of type of problems. For example, right? If you go, you would never share, I don't want to stay at that hotel, it's only four stars. You would never share that publicly, right? Because you could be scrutinized. So keep that same energy when it comes to your problems. Don't nobody want to hear about your problem. But nobody did.  No, Will went away. The whole thing. You got to read his book, Will went away. There were times where Will would get on planes and just coach, right?  I'm like, oh, that's what Smith, what Smith, he'd be standing like random places in random countries, not hotels and everything, because he was just trying to figure a life out. He did that on his own. He was trying to find all those ayahuasca journeys and everything. He did that on his own. Yeah, it seems like he's trying to find himself. Yes. I mean that sincerely. And that action right there is, am I this person? Am I this person who defends the honor of my wife? OK, maybe that is who you are. Maybe it isn't. Now you're apologizing. But it does seem like he's having not a midlife crisis, but more of a crisis of identity. He clearly is right there. You can't run from your problems. But two things, real quick. I want to talk about the sympathy for the celebrities, how you said, we don't want to hear about your problems. I am nowhere near like a Will Smith or anybody type of famous, but I work so hard.  Can I say one thing real quick? Yes. None of us have to say we're nowhere near Will Smith type. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know. None of us. I just say that because on my small scale, people feel like they can say whatever they want to say to me, because they're like, oh, you're on the radio or you're on television. So you can't. And then when I snap back, they say, you're a public figure. Why did you respond?  That's why I'm responding. And I want you to know that, listen, you say something wild to me. I'm going to say something wild back to you. And I feel like Will Smith, that's why. But this is why I always love. I never saw that comment. What is that?  What is it? Alex got the Will Smith apologizing to the Academy and his fellow nominees. Look at Soldier Boy. Nah, I don't cry now, Will. You got to stand on that. Motherfuckers don't care. And that's a bad part. That's a bad part. Motherfuckers don't care. Everybody will laugh. That's it. This is don't care. This is Jaden. Jaden goes, and that's how we do it, right? And then the first comment below it. Jesus Christ, look at that. What is it? Nobody said, this is how August did it. Oh my God.  That's wild. But that's the other thing, too. Leave the internet. You know what I hope? This is what I hope one day. I hope that everybody gets to take their mask off completely. You can't ever. Because we don't know these people. So it's like so many things that we think we know about individuals. It's things that we think they care about. It's things that we laugh at, that they was already fully aware of. You know what I mean? It's just weird to me. And when we talk about people's relationships, you don't know what people's relationship status is. People don't be having traditional relationships. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's just like the stuff we make fun of, it's just like, yo, they done been there, done that. It's just like, we're just getting a taste of it in the public now. That's true, but they are. I think there is a difference when people have a private life. Like, they're celebrities that we don't hear about their relationships. And that's a choice. Right. There are people that are happily married or unhappily married. And we don't know because that's not a choice. Carrie Washington is great at it. Like, she's great at not talking about her husband exposing her children. That's it. She definitely, like, she's the blueprint for that. So I always think if we know about your family, you want us to know about your family, your PR company is trying to do things, and you are monetizing your family. And if that's the case, if you're putting your family in the fire for monetary gain, that's your choice. It's your family. Y'all could do whatever you want.   I keep my wife private. I don't monetize my relationship with my wife. I keep my husband so private, I don't know where he is. I'm not saying things will happen. I can't even find that nigga. He's so private. And here's the thing. And here's the thing. This is to our, you could argue, to our detriment when it comes to fame. People love relationships. People are obsessed with relationships. There are whole TV shows about people getting into relationships. For the master, we know that if we monetize our relationships, we could be further on. But we choose to protect our loved ones and not expose them to the hate and vitriol of the internet. But sometimes this breaches our security when these hosts are talking. You know what I'm saying? What are you supposed to say? No, for real. That had a breach of security. You breached the security when you was with the host so she could start talking. But what if all of y'all know y'all got hosts? Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? What if everybody knows we got hosts? Who got hosts? I don't know. What if I got hosts? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. There's a lot of non-traditional relationships out here nowadays. So what if I got hosts and my wife got hosts? And then one of my hosts might talk. One of your hosts might talk. Cut that out. I'm just saying. That's a real shit, man. Breaches and security. Ain't all your wife's got hosts. That ain't not happening. Oh, Andrew. That's 2022, baby. That Polynesian sauce is everywhere. Everybody's going to be great again. When wives didn't have hosts, whatever year that was, let's go back to that. When wives didn't have hosts, or hopes, or dreams, anything with H.O.W. in it. Oh, my God. Host is nothing. No hosts, no hope. Oh, my God. That's a great 23-foot damn baseball. No hosts, no hosts. No hoes, no hoes. Oh, my God. Soldier boy, go round with it. I am not voting for you.   I'm just saying, man, I just think it's a lot of psychological, mental, emotional stuff that everybody's going through. And I really do wish the best for everybody in this situation, because to your point, Andrew, somebody asked me earlier. Somebody said, is this bigger than Jay-Z and Solange in the elevator? Eddie, our producer asked us that. Why are you even gritting your teeth like that, Taylor? It's bigger. It's not even close.  That doesn't mean it's bigger. It's not even close. We're talking about, first of all, let's talk about this setting. An elevator versus the host. Let's talk about the setting. Number one, we're talking about grainy camera footage versus 4K HD angles, everything else. Now, let's talk about the players. Jay-Z, love Jay-Z. But Chris Rock and Will Smith have been white famous, way longer than Jay-Z. You're talking about literally two household names for over 20 plus years. I think Jay-Z is on the same level as Stardom as them. I think now. He's on the same level as Stardom. Maybe. Listen, not Will. By the way, not Will. Will's one of the famous people on the planet. Exactly, not Will. And I love Hope. Hope is one of my idols. I call myself a Pickett Smith Winfrey Knowles Carter. But Hope will tell you that. No. So it's Will and Chris. This is Chris Rock. This is Chris Rock who sat in and out night live. HBO specials, HBO talk shows. Mount Rushmore of comedians. Mount Rushmore of comedians. He's been white famous for a long time. No, no, no famous. Like anywhere in the world. Like. You say what? Oh, that's right. We don't know what they said. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. I think also too, I think the thing with the elevator was we always wondered about Jay-Z, Beyoncé, because they were perceived as perfect relationship. Like no drama. Jay-Z, they're happy.  Well, listen to what you say. It was the Jay-Z-Beyoncé dynamic. Not so much the Solange of it all. The fact that Solange was Bey's sister made everybody speculate. This was Will Smith, the biggest, one of the biggest stars in Hollywood ever. Walking up to Chris Rock, who I think is for me the best stand-up comedian I've ever seen personally in my generation. In slapping him. At the Oscars. Oscars, y'all. Come on, y'all. At the Oscars. What do we talk about?  Joe Montana is not famous as well as Chris Rock. That's true. That's just America. That's right. That's just America.  And Will Smith broke. I know he apologized, but I was here for it because he was tired and I'm still defending the budget. He was the next person.  I never could joke, you know what I'm saying?   Oh, we joke around all the time.  That's because we family. You joke on me and I can't...  No one will wed you. I love this. I'm gonna wed you. I'm gonna poke the bed. I'm really gonna poke this bed. I'm gonna be on this bed about you. Charlemagne has started. Charlemagne has started. There's the lawn mower. And people will be over there morning. What's that laugh? What's that sinister laugh?  Really? Again, I've got playpen wedgies and looking... My favorite one was the Coastal and Myrtle Beasts. That was my favorite one. I love this story. Tell it again. No, it is true. Because it really took a while for people to poke the bed. What happened?  It was not. The joke was excellent. It was like right here.   The week and he's smoking bluncy, passing him, nobody want to take it, right? They're like, nah, I'm good. People I know smoke weed. I'm like, it's because he got a Coastal, right? Because he got a Coastal. Nobody like, oh no, no, no. I'm just some more probation.  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. One of our guys, it's motherfucker. He's a lunatic. He be a lunatic. I said, okay, he's the one that's going to jump out the window. And he's drinking a little bit. Y'all ain't elevator. As you drink it, I know he's got that. We get on the elevator and he came with a fire joke. It was good.  He needs a wife beater. He said your Coastal doing pushups. Your Coastal been doing some pushups. Your Coastal got a wife beater on. All the girls on the elevator laugh. It was when the girls laugh. But I told him before we got on the elevator, I said, listen, we joke together.   Oh, before you told him that. He did. Because they funny. Everybody funny. We are. I was not the funny one. I punch people. So he says this. What is your reaction? I don't know if it's certain. So I told him so. We on the elevator. I never. Charlotte there. He here. I'm here. And all the girls is over here.  I'm like, I see wife put his gloves on. Oh. I did. And I just got action. Boom. Drinking. He had a drink. Listen. The water flew out of the cup and landed back in the cup. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Boom.  Yeah, he had other cars. Like three or four cars.  Yeah. How about that? Listen, I stand by it. Let me tell you why. Because he was trying to look cool in front of the girls. Right. You're paying. So we're going to get a reaction. You want to look cool off of my pain? Well, how about you feel pain for real? That's what Will did. You see what I'm saying? And that's going back to comedians at Times Comics. And again, I respect the art. Well, essentially what you're doing is you're making light of somebody's pain to get your own satisfaction. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yes. That's true. So that is selfish. So if I decide that I'm mad at your selfishness, I could react however I want it. Yeah, he definitely wanted the girls to, like, as long as it works within the law. If you break the law, you go to jail.  I got enough money to take care of it. I'm just saying, it seems like you're giving an OK for people to do acts of violence. I don't think you're saying that. I'm saying what I'm saying is... Like, if someone doesn't like what the president's doing, they're not allowed to attack the president.  Like, if you say something about them that makes them want to put hands on you, they just want to put hands on you. But we're not saying that that's allowed or is OK. No. That behavior is reprehensible. Hey, man, I just thought... I thought... That's Joe trying to protect himself, right? He's trying to protect y'all.   And nothing I can do about it. Yes, there is. You got a wax. Again. But that's what you got to do.  I think it's unfair to poke somebody so much and say, well, literally, you can't hit me. Can't do that, Joe. Like, you know, don't say this stuff up and get hit because you might get hit. You might get hit, man. And you might catch these jokes. And you might catch more now that I know you're sensitive. No, people want to say that's what you get there.   I've never been a tough guy out here. I'm not trying to say that.  And I love jokes. So when I see people acting crazy like that. You know what you need to do?  Because motherfuckers is crazy. I just saw somebody pull out a gun at a Mike Tyson show. You know what I'm saying?  Oh, I didn't see that video.  That's stuff you need to see. The dude pulled the gun. No, they said the dude tried to fight Mike. Right? Yeah. He wants to fight Mike. Mike's in the fight. And then he pull out a gun. On somebody else. Luckily, they hugged it out. But that could have all ended bad.  Like, it's like, yo, we've seen enough situations where comedians have gotten attacked on stage. I saw somebody, I think Don El, Don El put out a top 10 list of comedians you don't run up on when they on the stage. And you know what I'm saying? And I think he was like number five because of some situation that happened back in the day. But it's the truth.  And I know it's easy to say, like, oh, man, you shouldn't have came to this comedy show if you're sensitive. But no, you can go. You can leave. Nobody's upset about that. Just don't sit in the front. Or don't sit in the front. Like, or just you can go. You can leave. You're allowed to be upset. No, any comic that says, oh, you're not allowed to be upset.   Everybody's allowed to react the way that they want to react. You have to understand that this is comedy and there are going to be feelings hurt. And we don't know what's going on in every single person's life that's in that crowd. We are just trying to make jokes, trying to make light of things.   How long were you in the community? 15 years or something like that.  I got punched in the face once. On stage. Really? I told you guys this. Way back in the day. Yeah, yeah. So you understand it. You don't like it, but you understand it. Yeah. And by the way, nobody should like it. You don't want to get attacked. No, it's not. I said, hold on. You stood there and let the guy punch you like Chris did. No. I was doing the show in a play in a bar, Cafe Moca Shouts of Smokey Suarez. I love Smokey. Smokey put me up all the time.  Basically, there's like a black comedy scene as well. But it's in New York.  Bro, they called it that.  But it's in New York. So I grew up in New York.  Let's just work on some jokes. I wasn't funny yet. And I was just making fun of this Puerto Rican dude. And then he walked up to me, but there's no stage. So I didn't know if he was going to the bathroom. Like people just walked by. You in a bar. So he just stands right in front of me. I'm like, what's up, man?  And he just swings on me, right? But the dudes went and grabbed him. And the dudes grabbed me and they separated me from him before I could not do anything to him. I mean, I'm in Harlem.  He got cuddled.  Luckily, he separated us and then gave me back the mic. And then I kept doing my thing. But I kept doing my thing. I did not.  Now, granted, he wasn't there, but you keep on doing the jokes. And I went back the next week and I did the jokes again. That was the best part about the whole thing. And Chris Rock is gonna do that. He's gonna definitely do that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris Rock did a great job. He's definitely gonna talk about it. If Chris Stone got a strong 2025 added to his Eagle Deaf... And by the way, it's a perfect... Son. It's a perfect... Eagle Deaf is perfect. You know what I mean? He put it out there in the world. It's perfect. Eagle Deaf is a perfect title to talk about that situation. Yeah, it's... I don't know if him and Kev show got a name, because him and Kev are going out this summer. Which is dope. Yeah. Then Chris is going out. But I mean, listen, man...  Absolutely. Yeah. This is the first time we've seen somebody have... No, not somebody. Somebody like Will have a... Meltdown like this. And we gotta give him grace for that. We've seen him before. I'm surprised he hasn't broke earlier, to be honest. Exactly. When he started saying he was throwing up after coming or some shit, what was that? I don't know about that, Andrew. I have to have a sex. I have to have a sex. He was throwing up. It was a reason for that, though. I remember it, but...  Oh my God, I don't wanna... It might have been that. No, it wasn't. No, no, it's because he was in love and he wanted to be with the woman, but they broke up. And so when he was trying to ego, feeding his ego out of his sleeping with a whole bunch of different women, he knew he didn't care about them. He knew these relations were meaningless and he said it would make him physically sick. Right. Listen, he's a very self-aware individual, man. I'm gonna tell y'all something else.  And what you saw Sunday, you saw skin come off. You know what I mean? He took a lot of skin off on Sunday, so I just hope this continues to give him the courage to really just keep showing up as it's... I don't want you to get him out, though, to keep saying mental health. I think that's just him reacting off somebody doing something to his wife. That's mental health, Wax. What are you talking about?  He had a breakdown. He had a breakdown. It wasn't just over the protection of the family. He's protecting his family, though, by standing up for his wife. He's saying it for his wife. He's saying it in his apology.  No, man. The water is down. No. Taylor really wants to say something. Come here, Taylor. Oh, go on that microphone, Taylor. Okay. Unlike these people, I would never silence a black queen. Okay. No, Kendra, don't hurt me for this one. But based off of what happened, what was it last year with the entanglements and all that other stuff, right? Mm-hmm. I love Jada. Your braids ain't tangled. Huh? Your braids look beautiful. Are you supposed to do that?  What's up with you? What's up with you? Y'all got to stop using that hashtag out of context. What's up with you? That had nothing to do with protections. Hey, we were talking about hair and everything else. Anyway. I mean, technically speaking, they're twists, right? Are they tangled? And they are. Are they tangled? I mean, that is part of the style. If he had to get you, you wouldn't know you could do. Then I could do? Yeah. Then I could do? Yeah. Is Charlemagne's hair entangled at all or nothing? You need to relax. You need to relax. Jada. Because I could be suffered from alopecia. Y'all, relax. You can't shoot me. Don't you ever hang it with Will. I could be suffered from alopecia. I could be suffered from alopecia. I could be suffered from alopecia. I could be suffered from alopecia. You need to be. You don't know. You don't know. We're going to know. Like you said in the beginning, Andrew, we're going to let this black queen speak. That's what we're talking about. That's right. That's what makes sweetheart. Go ahead. Make your point. Okay. I have a question. What is alopecia anyway? Say what? Listen. We're going to listen. Go ahead. We're listening. They grow in Georgia a lot. They do. They grow. They get the whole show. The Real Housewives of Atlanta. They get old. They do. They do. They do. They do. They do. No, pro-pro. Do y'all think at any term that Will may resent Jada though? No. I'm not even having that. No, no, no. I'm only saying this. Absolutely not. You just saying he got poke fun out. We're not silent in black women on this part. No, no, no. I'm just opening this discussion. Open it up. I'm just saying with what happened in Tanglements and everything else, right? You saw all this poke fun at Will. Like, oh, he's weak. Da, da, da. And then now he's standing up for Jada. And now what if he gets his Oscar taken away or anything else like that? You don't think maybe. First of all, okay. I got to disagree with you. So strong.  Yeah, like, like, first of all, I like this. No, I'm just asking. I like this discussion. This is a great discussion. The whole thing with the entanglement is Jada. It's a great discussion. Yeah, Jada. Are you asking if Jada is actually a sorceress?  Is that what he's asking? Is that what he's asking? It doesn't sound like it. It doesn't sound like it. Will under her spell. No. I'm not saying it's under it. So when she break that spell, you're out.  No, I'm not attacking her though. She just put all the blame on him.  Y'all all the blame on the black women now. I'm saying pause. Let me respond to that though, because it's almost like you're saying all the pain and the sorrow that Will is receiving is because of his wife, Jada. No, no, I'm not saying that's all of it. I'm not saying that's all of it. But I'm just saying. Some of it, some of it. From these past couple years, it's been from Jada. Yeah. Well, first of all, Jada's been exposed. I love Will Smith. They have whatever they do in their marriage. His stuff just is not in the front line. I'm quite sure. Of course. I'm quite sure Will Smith has done some things that we're just not talking about. No. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. We don't know these people. No. No one knows that. We don't know these people. The reason why I think it's true is as hard as he's going for it, because most black men are going to leave you. He left his girl for a... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh. Oh. Oh. Okay. Yes. Okay. What's this? Was that a hurt? Did you feel hurt? You got to see him say it to the fact that he wanted to say it. We're back in the elevator. We're back in the elevator. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So the fact that he wants to say it with a woman because she's... Whoa.  Wait, what was thick and thin? The fact that she slept with August Alcina, and this is just something that we know. I'm quite sure it's other things. But he is still standing by his wife, no matter what. And most men will leave a woman if they cheat on them. So I feel like because he's standing by her, he's done something. Will Smith said that him and Jada have never cheated on each other. What does that mean? Will Smith and Jada said that... Will said when he interviewed with Gayle King that there has never been infidelity in their relationship. But look, just how you said that, Will. But look, Jesus Christ. I'm not saying nothing about cheating. I'm just saying, though, that you just said...   I'm just saying...  I'm just saying, just how you said that all his life, Will was one type of way that he didn't stand up for his mom or whatever. I can't believe you, yeah. All that. Stop. I'm just saying. You don't think that's going to... I think it's frustrating. I think it's frustrating. That's what I'm saying. You don't think it's... It's hard to evolve. I don't think I could ever evolve to a point where a dude's just smoking out my wife on a regular. Yeah. He's like, I don't think I'm capable of that. I'm just saying it that way. And the guy's a singer? And yeah. Come on. I'll be kidding. Could y'all evolve to that point? Wait, say it again. Other men are sleeping with my wife. I don't think I could evolve to that. Right. Exactly. No, I'm not drawing. I guess I think... So the point I'm saying is, but let's say if you guys have that, like Will does this thing, Jada does her thing.  Will's mess didn't get put in front of the world. Call the mess wherever the case may be. And that's why I feel like he's so supportive. He doesn't have a mess. Exactly. He definitely has. How do you know definitely not one girl came out? I see. I see. Because if he didn't, he would leave her. Because if he wasn't, if it wasn't an equal relationship... Sorcery. Sorcery. If it wasn't equal... She got sorcery. You would see him by, okay, listen, you're the perfect husband, right? You're not cheating. You're not doing anything. Hold on real quick. You're not doing anything outside of your marriage. And then your wife has cheated, slept with this person and...  Can I tell them I got to be on the spot? Can I tell them I'm under respect? Can I tell these beautiful black women is something my sister Kendra G, my niece, Taylor. I don't like how y'all put the blame on Jada as a black woman. And then now y'all accusing this black man, Will Smith, of nothing. No, I am innocent. Where is this evidence coming from? There's no evidence. Why do all black men got to cheat? No, it's not true. Why all black men guilty before approving innocence? Black men don't cheat. I don't cheat. You don't cheat? Why y'all doing this to Will, Jada? I'm not cheating. What did Will do? We have nothing. Listen, we're only dealing with the small sample size that we have in these people's lives. Will has nothing. Will doesn't have anything. So why are we making this up? Will is cheating. Why can't Will? Okay, what's that? Go with that. Go with that. Go with that. Why can't Will just love his wife in the same way women stick besides their men when men do whatever they do? Why can't he just be doing that? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why is that the orange concept? No, that's crazy, bro. That's crazy, bro. I'm not saying that, though. I'm not saying that. I'm definitely... Let me ask you this.  You were faithful the whole time, did nothing outside of the box. You would stay. At this point in my life? Yes. Promise me. I'm going to tell you what I'm talking about right now. This is what Will is doing. The best man in the movie. He's a great guy. He's amazing. He's amazing. I think he under the spell of the United States. He's under the spell. But also Charlemagne has been open. The question of the United States. But hold on real quick. Charlemagne is also open about his past. So it's almost like... This is what I'm saying about Will Smith. Okay, I'm using the movie The Best Man. In The Best Man, Tay Diggs slept with... He found out his wife slept with Tay Diggs and he stayed with her.  So what I'm saying is God bless you, Andrew. I'm sorry. No, that's not true. It is true. He stayed with her because he read the Bible and he knew that he had to forgive.  That's true. He never cheated on her. Yes, he did. What you talking about? Lance was a football player, man. He was sleeping with women all the time. Lance has so many sides. Hey, bro. Why are you snitching? Why are you snitching? No, no. You should not say a black man cheated, bro. It's a movie. No. No, no, no. I can't believe you, man. Oh, no, bro. We're not going to put those stereotypes out there in the world. The point I'm making is Will's stuff is just not the point of conversation and that's why he's... Because he had nothing. All right, but guess what? Even if he don't... Whatever, whatever. That's two drug dealers and this one got caught. Right. You know what I'm saying? And then you snitched. You want to give the drug dealer analogy I can't believe it. Why are you bringing it down? How about you put the drug dealer analogy? But did you understand it better though, right? No, I did. Come on, y'all. She did. I did. I got you. Thank you. Then got caught selling drugs. We sending everybody healing energy, man. And you know, I don't think there's a right or wrong in this situation. I really, truly don't. I don't think Chris was wrong. I don't think Will was wrong. I just think everybody needs motherfucking healing. I think Chris was wrong from the beginning. I mean, at least put that earlier, you know, healing is hard. Yes. And if it wasn't hard, all of us would be whole. But we're not whole. We're human. Yes. And that's what everybody needs to remember. This business is crazy, man. It's wild. It's a crazy business brand, bro. And it's getting even crazier because the reason it's getting crazier is because all of this shit that we used to see in like satire, that we used to see in spoofs, that we used to see on the boondocks, it's really happening in real life. No, let me tell you why it's getting crazier because to me, people have, there's more voices. Like before back in the day, social media platforms didn't exist. I'm with you. So it was a select amount of people that could make their opinion on stuff. Now everybody has a voice. Everybody can make a comment.  Now there's 20,000 people. Everybody's lying if they say they don't feed in to what other people say. If you really want to be successful, you really have to disconnect.  Like you have to, you know, do whatever it is that you're doing without listening to the opinions of others because the opinions of others will ruin you. And I'm not even talking about just bad opinions.  That's why when my daddy used to tell me, you're never as good as they say you are and you're never as bad as they say you are, that's how you keep yourself in check. You can feed your ego every day. You can feed your narcissism every day simply by listening to that one little echo chamber which is small. But in our mind, we think it's the biggest thing people out here that think like, yo, everybody's checking for them and everybody's talking about what they're doing and everybody's paying attention to them. No, it's not, it's those three or four people on social media that when you post a picture they leave a comment for you and now you feel like you bigger than life when the reality is you're this small in the bigger scheme of things. The only validation you should have is the validation that comes from within. Everybody else's validation don't matter. External validation don't matter. Internal validation is the most important. It's not who be who you are right now if you kept listening to the opinions of others. That is true. We sat in, listen, not in this studio, I've watched Andrew and I don't know if he's shaded before. I watched you cry. Yeah. Over the fact, he couldn't get roles as a white man in Hollywood. No.            Holy Massu! We're like this!  We were like this!  You can get a role? But you not wait for real? That's hilarious. That was good. That was good. He didn't get to go ado funk He ain't saying nothing, bro. He didn't know what to say. I was reliving the vulnerable moment andinging huge. I enjoyed you Andrew. I enjoyed a day with somePhone. I feel like you've done I haven't did the podcast before. Yeah, this is tough though. Interesting. Nice to meet you, Kanda. I actually can walk away. I'm better in person. You're better in person? Meaning like if you meet me, you get it more. No, you do. You're definitely a person you gotta get to know. No, I like no. You can give me a hand towel to tell you.  I like this because these are two people who I love hearing their commentary. You know what I'm saying?  This is gonna be especially due to the topic. But what I love the most is we could agree to disagree. We're obviously coming from different perspectives. Like I was coming from the strong black perspective. You're like, I'm coming from the comedy strong perspective and I respect that. And even though we don't agree on everything, I love that we could agree to disagree in a respectful way. Cause at the end of the day, we were here for a hundred years.   That's it. Like take care of people's like, so like let's have some fun. Let's talk about, like this is fun. We had some distraction this week. Yeah. Cool. Like I was looking a little doob all when he says this kind of stuff. And he's just like, what are we just getting distracted by? How are we enjoying our time over here? And if we're getting too caught up and angry in it, then we're missing out the point. That's different.  Somebody else's life. Somebody else's shit, man. Like, that's what I say with you. This should not take your week. This should not take over your week. We should not consume your week. Everywhere I wanna did though. It's good. We have to listen. No, you gotta give it to them Saturday Night Live. They gotta do it this weekend. SNL is gonna do it. And then after SNL does it. Macamador. They're gonna definitely mind this. I love Pete Davidson. They're gonna mind this for sure. Family, I love Chris Redd. I am not sitting around waiting for Saturday Night Live. But they're gonna mind this. Will Smith, Chris Rock situation. Yeah, I don't think they got this one. I'll be honest with you. I didn't think they were gonna step away from it. By the way, they got the harder job because. They gotta come after everything. You can't exactly. All the jokes been made. The satire is done. Like, this is better than satire. This is better than sketch. There's nothing you can do. If it happened Thursday, maybe, but it's kind of too long. It's too massive for them not to touch on it. It's the biggest thing. They're gonna touch on it. They're gonna touch on it. They're gonna touch on it. They're gonna touch on it, but it's like, how can it be funnier than what we've seen on the internet? It can't be. They got rules. The internet got no rules. I am Karen could be funny. I am Karen is fine. There you go, SNL. There you go. Take it. Run with it. Let's create some bills, man.  Perfect. All right, guys, we're gonna take a break for a second. Because today's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. 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So, yeah, thank you so much. And then the infamous tour is wrapping up. We got a Montreal this weekend, then we got Atlantic City and the Vancouver, and then that's it. And finally, chill out, take some time, write a new hour. Special coming this year though, right? Yeah, yeah, special coming too. Special coming to home. So that'll be good. I'm excited. What do you got, Marci? What you got? I'm going to use the bathroom quick. Beast.  I got you ready. Hey, check out who's wax is in stores in California. New York. New York as well. Get that. We got the Delta eight. The gummies are crazy. Wax dot com. Who's wax dot com. Also, we got the address. Make sure you go to um you know one one oh six in Columbus and New York City. We we're in there and go grab some ace man. It's really dope. Um who's wax airsoft? We got the airsoft podcast wars coming up really soon man. Y'all get y'all ten on ten team. What I'm saying? Let's let's get it. What you got? Oh wow. Look, I'm okay. You know, I host the morning show in Chicago WGCI. Um also, I host the show on our black network.  The show is called Social Society. We drop our episodes on Mondays and but more importantly, follow me on Instagram. The first hundred people to follow me on Instagram. I follow you back Kendra G media. I'm gonna follow you too. Yeah. You're already following me. Okay. You're not following me. Yeah. Oh, but don't like any of my pictures. Yeah. This is this is Alex. Let me get wax problem. You already know. It's not really a problem.  Hey, he's always gonna. Why are you mad? Why are you listen? You gave her all this information. No, I don't. Where'd she get all this from then? You all I'm trying to help you heal right now. Heal. Heal. Heal. Heal. Heal. Heal. Because you're hurting. I'm hurting then. I don't want to talk about it. Okay. Okay. Okay. I can't put them all black. Oh, Jesus. Alex. Got you. Alex. You don't know nothing. Do not do anything that I said. Let me see. Let's do some asking idiots, man. Wait, Charlotte, what's your announcement?  Just always, man. BlackEffect.com. But make sure you go check out Finding Tameka on Audible. That is the first project for me and Kevin Hart's SPH productions narrated by Eric Alexander, created by Eric Alexander and Color Farm. Go check out Finding Tameka. Thank you for everybody that's been, you know, buying, finding Tameka, listening to it. It's a tremendous success. And we thank you and make sure to scream the gods on this truth on Paramount Plus. Okay. Make sure you scream season one of the show. We're cooking up for season two, but make sure you still continue to check out season one of the gods on the truth on Paramount Plus. We'll be back this summer. Yes. We're season two.  No, because I gotta go. We got places to be. And I mean, is there really anything else worth talking about? That's what I said. Don't wish out the whole week. Don't wish out the whole week. So she said, let's talk about the don't say gay bill in Florida. I'd rather hear Boosie talk about that. Can we um go with this drop? What? This on this tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow? Tomorrow. Let's do some asking idiots. This is a segment of the show, Kendra. We asked three questions. Okay. From people who listen to the podcast. Okay. Barrick. Oh, this is the uh man. I'm going to wait for shows. Shows come back to answer that question. Um Jotun says no question, but a statement you can't tell a man how to defend his wife. Right. Um okay. This is a good one. Cruz SMB says if you could upgrade any part of yourself physically or mentally, what would it be? Um physically or okay. Are we answering this? Oh, without Andrew. Okay. So what's the question again? If you could if you could upgrade any part of yourself physically or mentally, what would it be? As I'm getting older, my stomach is not as flat as it used to be. So I'm I'm having stomach self consciousness right now and I have money but I'm a worker. So I'm running New York City Marathon this year. I don't think I've ever told you that but I'm running New York City Marathon. I'm hoping that in the training process which I believe I will, I will lose out of COVID weight that I gained but you know a girl be thinking about getting the surgery but I think I'm better than a little tuck here, a little tuck there. A little tuck here and there but I'm a worker. I like to work for minds. I like to say I actually was disciplined to have this. So that's the one thing I would change if I could. What about you, Wex? I'll upgrade anything in my life uh be my bank account. You said physically or mentally man. Mentally will help me out with my bank account. You said physically or mentally. I don't like my brain or I try to explain my brain because I can't read. Because you're already made physically perfect. I don't know.  Okay. Um proves SMB everything I'm trying to upgrade in my life physically and mentally. I'm currently doing you know what I'm saying? That's why I work out the way I do. That's why I die at the way that I do and you know mentally every day of my life I'm trying to be better. I'm trying to get smarter. I'm trying to get more emotionally in tune. You know what I mean? That's why we go to therapy. That's why you know we read the self-help books. That's why we have sacred purpose coaches. That's why we have you know spiritual leaders. Like you know every day I am trying to get better physically and mentally. And you know the best way to upgrade yourself is just to do it. It's not like those things aren't available. The only things physically I would love to change about myself. Two things I would love to change that I don't know if I can. Mentally I wish I could retain everything that I've taken. Okay. Information wise. Because I'll read a book and I'll remember parts of it. You know what I mean? No matter how many times I read it. It's just like certain things stick to me. Certain things don't.  Why you have a wife? What's the purpose? What's the purpose when you already have a wife? You have beautiful children? I want one of them intimidating dicks. But why? Who's going to notice it besides your wife? My wife! She's already happy with the work she has. No, but I just want a little something. I got like baby bears parched. So you're saying that you're small basically? No, I'm not small. Well you must be small if you want to increase the length. I'm average. I'm seven inches, three four, eight inches long. I am. Eight when it's warm so sometime I'm... No, I mean... I mean, what's the purpose when you're happily married? Like unless you're trying to be like okay when you're happily married and you're not going nowhere. Like I think it's necessary for like a wax who's out here in these streets. Right? But it's just dope.  First of all, what you may not know. Women don't know.  And they don't want that either. By the way, I'm just a grower, not a shore. I just want a little bit more for show. Like when you first step out to shower, you know what I mean? Like you don't want to just be grabbing for the towel. You don't want to see you like that.  Oh my god. You know that. Done been there, done that. I'm not sure gonna say change your teeth since you're going through all that right now. I'm doing that though. Okay.  There's no BBL for dicks. There actually is. It is? Yeah. Really? I heard it just does girth. Oh, I don't know. Oh, okay. What else we got? Um, Alex. I wonder if it takes filling the way. That's kind of wild. That's his name. Oh, my bad. Tell it damn. I'm like, what you mean? You trying to race black men? What do we got? Is Alex on like a show or something like that? Is Alex on a show like Will of Fortune or something? Yeah, Alex Rebecca, he died. They wanted to Ali. He died. He did? Yeah, he died, man. I'm sorry. Blue 305. Answer that one. Wax blue 305? Blue 305. Blue 305. Blue 305. Blue 305. Wax and Carla update. Whoa. Wax and Carla update. Wax and Carla update. We're blessed. God is blessing us. You should have just said I can't read. I'm saying we're blessed. Yeah. Well, that's what answers that. We're all blessed. Are y'all still together? We woke up this morning. You woke up this morning. Did y'all wake up together? Did you wake up in the same bed? They put his food on my table. Did you wake up in the same bed? Did you and Carla wake up in the same bed? He didn't ask you about what the good Lord did to you. The question was, did you and did you and Carla wake up in the same bed this morning? What's the last time you spoke to Carla? Jesus, Lord have mercy on me. Okay, let's go to Giro, Giro underscore. Giro underscore says, where did this willing Chris situation put us on the black progress scale? It put us nowhere and we got to stop saying that. It didn't set us back. It didn't take us forward. It could take us forward. I think it took us forward. I think it could take us forward because we could have some real conversations about people and how to deal with things. You know what I'm saying? And how we all got to have our outlet. Who does the go to person go to? The outlet on his feet. That's what I'm saying. Like, black men have to have real spaces. Black men have to have real spaces in order to express their feelings. They got to be safe spaces. Basketball courts. Gym. Nah, but it's got to be bigger than that. That's physical stuff. Yeah, I think you got to be able to talk therapy like you do on therapy. Yes, man. They got to be safe spaces for us to mentally and emotionally express ourselves, man. Because when we don't have no place to express ourselves, things like that situation happen. Yes. You know what I mean? You know, you don't last months at therapy? Yeah, I know. Right. Okay. I'm proud of you. Proud for the first time. You know when they're bullshitting the therapist? Oh, God. I had to put shades on everything. Yeah. That's all. It didn't set us back.   That's why I was happy it happened there. It's like, yo, stop it.  Yeah, don't play with me like that. Don't play.   Where are you going? By the way, we shouldn't be doing that anywhere. Right. Like, you know what I mean? Why just the Oscars? You should be doing that nowhere. Yeah, watch your mouth. Don't play with me. Have I actually seen that Chris, where I see after he got smacked the way he came back and did something so professional was like, unbelievable. There's no... Obama wouldn't have held that. That's what I'm saying. There was a lot that's right. Obama wouldn't have held that smacked. Nah, that's right. That's right. Chris is a total G for that. That's professional as a motherfucker. Chris maintained the professionalism. Yes. Let's do two more. What? Omar Alazar 95 say, would Wax do the same thing Will did in the Oscars? Hell, yeah. I mean, for anyone of mine, you know what I'm saying? It could be like even my baby mama and stuff like that. It's like, if somebody doing, I still got to protect them because of my sons. You know what I'm saying? Some of my sons are at a certain age. If somebody doing, I see her that she feels disrespected. We could be at a cookout in the backyard. You know what I'm saying? If I see somebody hurt, she feels disrespected. At least go to the guy, but for me being who I am, bro, you're supposed to know that. So I think that Chris disrespected Will Smith at the end of the day. He had nothing to do with nobody else.  You see what I'm saying?  I was going to already say, Wax is the kind of guy that's going to smack you. Like you know that. Like you know that. Yeah. So I think for sure you're going to do anything. You know you're going to do that. You don't expect that it will. And if you do that to me or disrespect like that, I think that you wanted to get smacked. Oh, this is a good one. That's two more I want to do. I want to do this one. Reese Narcisse. Reese says, why are we mad at Kanye for him storming the stage and we understand Will's? First of all, that is number one, a false equivalency. Yeah. Number two, who was mad at Kanye? Everybody was mad at Kanye. The culture wasn't? Nah, people fucking. Yes, we was for.  Listen, I think that it was, it was, it was, it was, it was.  Yes. People were very mad at Kanye. I remember. That's the whole thing. I remember mainstream America being mad because of Taylor. Mainstream America was mad. But not, not the coach. And the coach was like, he right. Yeah. He defended Beyonce and Beyonce should have won. That's right. Well, Beyonce.  Well, yeah, it was tacky. Beyonce should have won because overall she won for best video of the year, but then lost in the pop category. Which he exposed how war shows are done. They just give out awards because that's how the business works. Right. It wasn't the right thing to do, but people were very mad at Kanye over Taylor. I saw people trying to make a correlation between the Kanye and Will thing. And they was like, well, you know, if Will can do that at the Oscars, why can't the Grammys let Kanye, you know, still perform? One reason and one reason only.    That's right. I'm going to be put a video of somebody that's at the Oscars.  If Will had been online doing that, the Oscars wouldn't have been invited. Which like, yeah.  Respect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So what are we talking about? That is such a weird correlation. It's like, yes. It's just, it makes no sense. Kanye premeditated something. So if the Oscars was to put Kanye on that stage. No, Kanye was really wrong. He was dating Amber Rose at that time. No, no, I'm talking about now. Oh, now. With the Bambis Boycott. But I think what this question is referring to. And oh, but to that point. Yeah. Kanye has a past to being unpredictable. It's all fun and games when it's just, you know, you're being political and everything else.  Well, no, I kind of agree with the question that not I'm understanding it more. Because they're saying, I think we were mad at Kanye because I was, I wasn't necessarily mad, but I thought it was wrong. It wasn't the right time. But I wasn't mad at Will Smith. I wasn't mad at Kanye because I came from the air of Old Dirty Bast. Yeah. Running up on the stage and saying, Wu Tang is for the children. Yeah. So I was not mad at Kanye. That's what I'm used to. OK. Respect something. Aye, man. Hey, that's what I'm used to. I ain't flinching. I seen it happen. I was like, OK. I'm used to 50s still walking across the stage when goddamn, I forgot who won best new artist at the Grammys that year. But he got robbed. It was a rock group of somebody. Who won best new Grammys that year? And 50 didn't say nothing. But he just got up on this. He walked up on the stage and just walked behind them and was looking at the camera and went and sat back down. Y'all don't remember that? That's right. I remember that. You're not watching Will Smith. I remember that. Ah, fuck, yeah. Go back to that. Yes. It was when 50 Cent lost best new artist at the Grammys and it was a rock group that won. And 50 Cent jumped on the stage and walked behind the group and came back down. So stuff like that don't bother me. That's research. I still ain't never seen nobody get smacked. That was new. Let's go to the corporate question. Taylor, let's scroll up to the top. I want to end on this one. This is a good question. Scroll up to the top, Taylor. No, not that top. I think it was the first one. Other one. How do you keep it real in a corporate setting? Yes. That's from Barrett VII. How do you keep it real in a corporate setting? You don't. You don't. You don't keep it real in a corporate setting. You don't. You don't. You got to know there's rules. Right. You don't keep it real. There's rules. It still all depends on what happens. Mm-mm. Incorporate access. If you want to keep your job, I think, I'm assuming that's what he's saying. How do you keep it real and still keep your job? What is real though? I say you don't keep it real.   No, that's not true. I know somebody who's going just because they feel uncomfortable at the workplace. That's different. That's like a human resource situation. Uncomfortable as in, that's, I think right now we're definitely in that phase. Like, you could definitely, it wasn't always like that. So I am happy that women or men, if you feel uncomfortable, you can go to human resource. They take that stuff seriously. But for the most part, you can't keep it real in corporate. I want to know what keeping it real is though. Like, it's so, like, what is keeping it real mean to you? Because I, there's nothing. Saying that you don't like somebody that you know you can't say that. Yeah, I think of stuff like that. I think we are, we've been blessed to get jobs that we can keep it real and give our opinion. But most people don't have that privilege. Most people don't have the privilege of us speaking their mind and their opinion and still having income. So it's a privilege to be able to voice your opinion. Most people hate their boss. Most people hate their boss. This is a privilege to be able to say what you really want to say. They go down to boss phase because they're a person getting them a check. Yeah, I've never not kept it real in a corporate setting. I do know women. It works in your favor. Yeah, I do know. It's a time and place meaning like if I have a gripe with somebody, let's have a meeting about it. Right. Because if I just go to that person and Words get missing. Yeah, there you go. Now that person go to HR, I said no. No, let's have a meeting so we can all sit down. Other people can be here. Everybody can be here president. And we all can say what we need to say about each other. That's how, to me, that's how you keep it real in a corporate setting. I think the stuff y'all be wanting to keep it real about is not even real at all. If you want to, I need to know what that means. I don't think it means in terms of like fight, but let's say you have like an opinion, right? That might go against the grain of what Hollywood, for example, would want you to say or think or feel. It's hard to keep it real and also maintain those relationships, maintain your job. Like, yeah, I definitely feel for those people out there who go, hey, I'd like to be more honest. We'll say that. Yeah, we'll say I couldn't curse. And that's because the studios are like, hey buddy, we're paying you $20 million a year. All you have to do is not curse in interviews. It's not that big a deal. Like when you're out to dinner, curse whenever you want, but you're going to have an interview with Access Hollywood or whatever, they're going to ask you questions.  That seems like a decent deal. That's a decent deal for me. I would never swear again. Right? But it's so wild, though, right? My mama told me I can't curse. She didn't give me nothing. She didn't give you nothing. She didn't give me a $20 bill. It's so wild because every essence, that's the hardest thing. 50 Walk Across Day.  Because they'll tell, and I always tell this story, I told him my first book.  The book publishers told me I couldn't name my book that a book like that will never sell.  And I'm like, well, who says that? Who said that? But they're just going off the rules of how books were prior to that. Then Mark comes out, drops the subtle art and not giving a fuck, and sells a million plus copies. Now everybody got cursed words in their titles. You know what I mean?   And I feel like there's people like, you have the churches, you as a black man, why would you do that? I mean, there is, I'm going to call it privilege or white privilege, but there is a privilege as a white man, he can do that and get away with it. His audience is going to support it. It's not going to be judged as much.  It's like you have a higher standard. I'm not saying that's wrong, but also think too, you got to have people that are willing to take that risk and say, well, if that's what you want to do, do it.  Right. Everybody looks like they're changing the mind. The first time. You know what I mean? Everybody's crazy until it works.  But do you think it would have worked for you the same? Yes. You did? But I mean, but by the way, I'm not even tripping because everything happened for a reason. Everything happened for a reason. And I had a great conversation with Steve Harvey. When I told Steve Harvey the name of the book, Steve Harvey said, no player. That ain't it. That ain't it. That ain't it. That ain't it. That ain't it.  That's exactly what he said. He said, no, no, no.  He said, that's the problem.  And he was like, you know, he said, you got a story to tell and it's a story that can empower people. And he said, you know, you need to tap into that. You know, how can this story be meaningful for people? Find a title that's going to actually mean something to people.  It's a privilege to be black. It's an honor to be black. And I ran it by our late great friend, Jazz Fly, and she was like, that's it.  And like, you know, it was meant to be. It was meant to be. Best seller, baby. New York Times best seller it is. Let's talk about it. Third one on the way. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. What are you thinking? I've been writing for a minute. We cooking up. Okay. So you don't want to. I got a couple actually. You don't want to expose too much. Hey, man, I got a book in front. We just shooting, you know. That was so cocky. It is. Thank you, Kendra G, for joining us. Thank you, Kendra. I had a lot of fun. You're great. I really did have a good time with you guys. You're crazy. Like, go ahead. I'm crazy. I'm going to go call Carla right now. Whoa.  How did you get? All right. It hits a knock. Go ahead. As always, listen to this podcast. You think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right.  It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening.