Okay, we're going to solve another example problem involving the calculation of pressure drop in pipe flow. So I'll begin by writing out the problem statement. Okay, so we have one mile of pipe that is three inch internal diameter and we're told that it is wrought iron with a epsilon or surface roughness of 0.046 millimeters and within that pipe is flowing water at 20 degrees C and seven meters per second is the average velocity and we're told to compute the head loss in feet and pressure drop in psi. So we have two ways of going about this. We can use the British units or use SI. I will convert to the SI units because I am more comfortable with those units and then looking at values for water. Okay, so we have the dynamic viscosity, we have the density and we are told the velocity is seven meters per second and so the first thing we want to do, we want to calculate the Reynolds number for the pipe flow and so substituting in the values, we have all the values for the Reynolds number and we find that we're at 5 times 10 to the 5, 5.5. Wow, let me write it out. So 532,000 is the Reynolds number and therefore that's greater than 2,300 and we have turbulent flow. So what does that mean? That means that when we do our pressure drop calculations, we have to use the friction factor for turbulent flow and there are a number of different ways that we can go about doing that and what we'll do before we get into that, let's look at the roughness. So for the wrought iron, we have epsilon 0.046 millimeters and that gives us an epsilon over diameter of 6.04 times 10 to the minus 4 and we'll estimate that as 0,0,0,6,0. So these two values we will be using, we'll be using epsilon over D and we'll be using the Reynolds number to compute the pressure drop or the friction factor for this particular case. So what we're going to do to begin with, we're going to go to the Moody diagram and we will use an epsilon over D of 0.0006 and an RE based on diameter of 530,000 and we'll read the Moody diagram and estimate the friction factor from the Moody diagram. So let's take a look at the Moody diagram. So here we have the Moody diagram and the Reynolds number we said was 530,000 so we come down, this is 5, that would be 12345, 5.3 times 10 to the 5. So we're someplace in here is where we will go into the Moody diagram and then our epsilon over D was 0.0006. So looking here, that is going to be this curve here. Consequently, we're going to want to follow this curve and I'll dash it out so that we don't get lost. So we want to follow that curve and then we want to move up. So moving up directly. Okay, so that means that the value that we want to read is someplace in about there. Now going over, I'll change colors of pen and I won't use blue because the lines are blue. Let's try green. So we have this one here and that goes there, there. Carefully coming over and then we come out about there. So that's 15678. We estimated the friction factor to be about 0.018. So F is equal to 0.018. So by reading the Moody diagram, we can write out F equals 0.018 and that would be our first estimate. Now that is using Moody. Now there are other ways that we can go about doing this calculation and some of them do not involve reading the Moody diagram. Others would involve using equations. So let's take a look at those different techniques next. One of them is using the Holland equation and this is the equation that did not require iteration. And so writing out the Holland equation for the friction factor and plugging in values so we can solve for the right hand side and that's going to be equal to 1 over the square root of the friction factor and with that we can solve for F to be 0182. So that's pretty close to what we got with the Moody diagram. So Holland gives us that. Moody gave us 0.018. Now this is an approximate at it's not a perfect estimate and none of them really are perfect. They're probably all about plus or minus 10% because we're fitting empirical data from experiments. So that is the technique by Holland and then another technique is the Colbrook-White equation. And this equation is transcendental meaning that we have to iterate. So computationally this is the one that takes the most time. However on a computer this one would be fairly easy to do. In an exam this one would be one that would make students sweat because they have to do iteration after iteration until they converge. Okay so how do we solve this? We see that we have friction factor there and we have friction factor there. The way that you do it is you just do trial and error. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to develop a table here, f value left hand side, right hand side, and then the difference between the two. And I'm going to put in numbers and we'll take a look at where it takes us. Okay so we have the numbers here. We have our friction factor, the left hand side of the equation, the right hand side, and then the difference between the two. So that would be left hand side, minus right hand side. And so when we get near the root of this equation we'll have a zero crossing and consequently the sign of the difference should change. We see that takes place down here. So we could go through and do more trial and error with the values of the friction factor in order to estimate. Or you can go ahead and just do interpolation. And if you do interpolation what you find is the friction factor comes out to be 0, 1, 8, 3. So really not too far off what we got with the Haaland equation or is it far off from what we got from the Moody diagram. So that's another technique. This is one that would work well with the computer code. But to do it by hand I would either use the Moody diagram or the Haaland equation. That seemed to be very efficient and compact and gives you the answer directly. So what we're going to do, we have these different estimates. We have from the Moody diagram we got 0.018 from the Haaland equation we got 0182. And then just now using the cold brook white we got 0.0183. So I'm just going to say f equals 0, 018. And we're going to use that to continue on with the calculation for this problem of estimating the pressure drop in this pipe that we're dealing with. So now that we've estimated the friction factor what we can do is we can go ahead and using the Darcy Weisbach equation we can estimate the head loss for turbulent flow. And when we plug in the numbers here and then converting it to feet because that's what we were asked to do for the question. So there is one part of the answer we were told to compute the head loss in feet and the pressure drop in PSI. So this would give us the first half of the answer. Now for the pressure drop what we're going to do is we're going to go to the energy equation. So let's write out the energy equation. And remember we have the kinetic energy coefficient alpha that we have in the energy equation when we're dealing with pipe flow. And given that we're dealing with turbulent flow the value of alpha is going to be 1. Okay so alpha 1 equals alpha 2 equals 1.0 because we're dealing with a turbulent pipe flow. V1, we have fully developed flow so V1 is equal to V2 equals 7 meters per second that's not changing. We know that, well we don't know they didn't tell us anything about elevation change so let's assume Z1 is equal to Z2. And with that what we get is this equation and this term goes with that term, that term goes with that term. So we're just left with the pressure differential and the head loss due to friction in the pipe. So what we end up with is P1 minus P2 divided by rho of the water is equal to GHF. So we can then take that and solve plugging in the value of HF we can solve for the pressure drop or the delta P in this pipe. So the pressure drop is going to be 9.295 MPa. Now they told us to compute this in PSI. And so this is a conversion that you should have memorized and that is you multiply this by 14.7 PSI divided by 101 325 and this is going to be Pascal so I'm going to have to put this as times 10 to the 6. But when we do that we get 1349 PSI and this is the conversion basically what we have for atmospheric pressure in either Pascal's or PSI. So with that we get delta P is equal to 1349 PSI and we get the head loss due to friction in the pipe is 3114.8 feet. So that gives you an example of calculating pressure drop in turbulent pipe flow. We saw that there are three techniques. There is the Moody diagram. There is the Holland equation and there is the Coldbrook white equation and the Coldbrook white was the one that required iteration. So that was not the most efficient. The Holland equation on the other hand was quite compact and actually kind of a nice way of doing it. The Moody diagram is good as well but it is prone to errors by having to read the table and you need to have the table there. So if you're doing things quick and dirty I would say Holland is probably the way to go. Coldbrook white is good if you're doing with the computer and Moody is also good if you are doing it quick and dirty. I should get rid of that error thing but it is prone to error because you're reading a table or the figure. So that is pressure drop with turbulent pipe flow.


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Welcome to the video, Converting Rotational Velocity to Linear Velocity. In mechanics, the velocity of rotational devices, such as drive shafts, is often stated in revolutions per minute, or RPM. Although the circles below may have the same RPM, their linear velocities will be different because their circumferences are different. Linear velocity is distance traveled per unit of time, such as minutes or seconds. In the following examples, revolutions per minute will be converted to a linear velocity, stated in feet per minute. To convert rotational velocity to linear velocity, we must first calculate the circumference of each circle. Circumference is equal to 2 times pi times the radius, or pi times the diameter, as shown below. After calculating the circumference of each circle, determine the linear velocity by multiplying the circumference of each circle by the RPM. Remember, to convert from inches to feet, divide by 12. Now, test your scale in converting rotational velocity to linear velocity with the following three questions. When calculating, use the pi button on your calculator rather than 3.14. Also, don't round until the last step. Pause the video if you need more time to solve the problems. What is the linear velocity for a circle with a radius of 19 inches, rotating at 1,466 rpms? The answer is 14,584 feet per minute. What is the linear velocity for a circle with a radius of 3.1 inches, rotating at 478 rpms? The answer is 776 feet per minute. What is the linear velocity for a circle with a radius of 19.1 inches, rotating at 1,346 rpms? The answer is 13,461 feet per minute. Congratulations! You have completed this video, converting rotational velocity to linear velocity.


ok at this it says it's a specific task Very specific and it's a specific time frame and then it's over And I don't see it being months and months and months, you know So I think that we need to think more creatively about how we go about Working together Not just as council, but as a council and citizens of our community and I don't I totally agree with you I just don't want to open us up for the kinds of criticism that come With not having guidelines and rules That criticism will be there no matter what we do and You're gonna get criticized for a decision you make tonight. I'm gonna get criticized for decision I make tonight and That's just gonna happen. I don't there any discussion among the GLL as to the potential of expanding the rules on ad hoc committees or Looking at how to make them what you want from so I I will also say that I wrote the initial draft of this and So I actually quite like this because But it's actually always been my preference that we take this language Modified slightly and put it under ad hoc rules. I mean ad hoc council and get rid of Work groups and just say look Ad hoc council committees don't need to charge because we haven't done that yet I mean we can say and apparently now we do but we haven't in the past and and ad hoc council committees can have members of the public You know, I think there's a question about whether a committee can create an ad hoc council committee. That's that's a trickier question But I don't I don't see it as That difficult and to me it's weird to create a whole new category For something that could be accomplished. Otherwise You know the the committees that Kathy referenced in Northampton they're created by the full-time council In fact, they require a two-thirds vote of the council to create a committee Right, but this this year it accomplishes everything that we're looking for No charge members of the public. There we go The one the one thing I had another comment that since I already have the mic on is if we Do this and we maintain and we do the slight revision to ad hoc council That retains count ad hoc council committees need committee charges I do have a question about whether ad hoc council committee charges need review by GOL All right, is there any direction that we want to go at this point? We do not have a vote tonight We can bring this up next week and we can vote on it Are we can send it back to a committee or we can do any number of other things? Alyssa can I just ask that you know as we figure out if we're gonna postpone the discussion as I always ask well What are we gonna learn between now and then and so I would like to have first reading only anyway, right? But you know so as not to just repeat ourselves at the second reading. I would like to understand I think My colleague perhaps sidestep the question of whether or not who can create the committee because to me That's the biggest issue to me the issue is not the charge to me The issue is not how people get on it and that's after struggling for months with Oka And that's after struggling for years 11 years of appointing people is that this isn't about saying We need somebody who knows somebody something about this It's actually gonna be I know somebody who knows something about this and I know somebody else who knows something about this and they can come And talk to us. I don't want to advertise for all the possible people who might know that that's not being not transparent because That working group is gonna come back to the committee Which is gonna eventually come to the council and the council says who the heck are these people these were obviously your neighbors These are obviously the people that gave you your biggest campaign contributions then you say you just regard what they say you say Obviously, that's garbage Obviously, they don't have their opinion is tainted by these various things But to say that every single thing we ever do has to go through this and Elaborate at this point perhaps less elaborate in the future appointment process just so we can say we did it When we know in all reality and I appreciated the the very the very direct nature of What says it's not a charge but actually looks a whole lot like a charge is just more readable is The explanation of what this group would do and it said two people's actual names We weren't like trying to flirt around the fact that one was a former chair and one's a current it's who they are That's what we need them for we need them at the table for those things So if we're gonna modify this, I don't think we can turn this into an ad hoc I think the ad hoc is still something else and I really like it So I would like to see it tweaked to include this idea that the president appoints But we might have some how how we can make that happen more quickly So that it doesn't have to wait for another council meeting and a second reading or whatever to make that happen It is a rules or procedures, so it's gonna have to come up for two readings Regardless of what we do Andy would like to make a comment and then I'll come over to Sarah Yeah, I have a couple of different things about it and listening to the conversation I was uncomfortable with the discussion as to whether or not we should ask for a legal opinion and it sort of Intimates that it's beneficial to not know whether you're doing something legal or not And I think it's always beneficial to know what you're doing is consistent with the charter and consistent with the law and Therefore I found that somewhat of an unusual conversation to have but You know, this isn't about just about work groups. It's about the appointment process Which I think we're getting at I do agree with When Evan said that I you know We've called things ad hoc committees way back at the beginning of the council process when we were getting in stuck in Conversations we said let's put it ad hoc committee and we did it we didn't go through a long process to get there and We achieved a result. So the distinction May not be all that great and I do encourage All of you to think about it. I Probably will come back to this in the next item. I am very uncomfortable with designating people by name in a committee creation process. I think that that If you talk about something that is going to be Questioned by the public as far as what your reasonable process is To create a committee saying we have two specific people we want on it I think really does put us as a council in a very awkward position as far as what the openness of our process And I guess the other things I'll say for the Discussion of the specific Committee That we're talking about the specific working group if we get there later. So, thank you Okay, Sarah Okay, Darcy. I just have a question about the legal opinion that we got today indicated that the president would Appoint the counselors but Who it I guess I'm thinking that the The committee chair Could still appoint the other members other residents and so on of a work group It would only be the counselors were the subject of that opinion, right? The the opinion on the very last page in the last sentence says in summary my in my opinion the plain language of The charter directs that in the absence of a particular appointing authority set forth in the charter Committees of the town council will be appointed by the council president while other committees will be appointed by the town manager That's all members not just counselors. So the council president needs to appoint all members not just the counselors So they'd have the council president would have the appointing authority of the non the members of the public of all council committees Okay, I think we we really do have a lot of other business tonight Mr. Hornick is waiting and he's even two items away. So Is there any specific wish of this group we just continue the discussion next week and I mean on September 9th, I would suggest that if we changed one sentence and Say that the all members are appointed by the council president in Consultation with the originating committees chair Dorothy another possibility is that we could make work groups Hybrid so that they have That they're both committees of the town council and the town manager That's like we just did for the climate action Then we open it up to subject to what I'm going to Never mind I'm going to suggest that while this is the first reading. We're going to continue the discussion on September 9th On the interest of everything else we need to get done. I don't know that we will come to any conclusion Then or now I think I truly understand the need for the flexibility. I'm just trying to figure out how we can get there Okay right So something that might be helpful I really respect the legal minds in our amongst us And if they could give special attention to what is needed to solve the problems Thank you All right Yes, and and it could be work in progress right we can we can always change if we make a mistake And it doesn't work out and we find that things are really we have gone back and changed certain things in our processes So just knowing always change Okay, we're going to move on to see which is the percentage for art bylaw work group and again, I Don't even know what to do with this one now Um GOL so GOL was charged with what was this was Charge a percent for art bylaw work group charge was referred to GOL last week to come up with it to conform with the Charter and our rules and other regulations and While we knew we didn't have work group rules adopted since the goal was to attempt to have a work group GOL Tried to write the charge to conform with the proposed work group rules So that's why the motion is set out to conform As a motion instead of a charge even though we haven't adopted work groups Given the legal opinion today that motion Kind of violates the Charter Because it has the appointing authority as the CRC chair So I think it needs rewritten but that was the attempt we did name two people Specifically that was one of the sort of more substantive policy changes we made we did that on clarity to clarify Who since we got the feeling the council was actually referring to specific people? And so that's why we did that including at least for the former chair of the public art Commission There's multiple former chairs of the public art Commission. So this would clarify which one On a personal basis. I'm now concerned that those given the KP law opinion we got today that naming people in the motion actually Violates the Charter because that also does not mean the president is appointing them But the goal of that Motion was to conform to the proposed work group rules the vote was 3-0 that to forward this on to the council With the assumption that it conformed with the work group rules and that the work group rules were actionable If the work group rules aren't actionable that Might change gls vote to having this motion Unactionable Yeah There was one other thing I wanted to say The other concern by GL Was that despite that vote was that without work group rules adopted was it actionable at all? We had that discussion and we weren't sure whether this motion Because it clearly doesn't conform to ad hoc council committee rules of our rules or procedure And so unless work group rules are adopted We didn't come to a conclusion as to whether this motion would be actionable we Made our vote on the basis that work group rules would be adopted Kathy if if this change the appointing authority So number two appointed by the chair if it's that appointed by the president And if you don't think we can name names. Can you say? the sponsors of the original percent for our Bylaw who have presented to us as this notion that people have brought us something And that would be these two people does that fix the concerns you just raised Mandy? I realize this is an atypical Format, but as Alyssa said before it's really easy to read and very clear on what the purpose is and the expansion that you did on this on what the Group should do whether we call them ad hoc group or group or puppies What they should do is address any concerns that were in the original concern clarify What we're talking about respond to any questions raised by the council committees and come back with a revised graft That would first go to the Committee resources committee and last last week you raised that it shouldn't come back to the council It should go back to these committees to see whether this one works better, right? So it seems to address everything that was raised last week So my question is if we change president the word to president and if we can't name names we can name the sponsors of the original bylaw and Amended that we're being asked to address so it's going to be these two people because they've given us a change So I'm just wondering whether there's not a quick fix on this so we could create this Nimble group Which was the original thought behind it. I'm gonna try something Okay This sounds like my first days on the this chair president of the council I moved to create the percentage of art ad hoc committee as follows It shall consist of five voting members appointed by the president Three of those will be councillors Two of those will be members of the arts commission The focus of the percent for arts bylaw work group shall be to update and revise the percent for art bylaw passed by the town meeting in spring 2017 The percent for bylaw excuse me Percent for bylaw ad hoc committee the percent for bylaw ad hoc committee shall revise the previous Bylaw to address concerns identified by the Massachusetts legislature clarify definitions Respond to questions or concerns raised by the council committees and propose a revised vision of the bylaw for completion for consideration by the community resource committee the finance committee and Ultimately the town council for the the percent for art by law ad hoc committee Shall provide a revised and updated bylaw with a report explaining changes from the original percent for by for bylaw Passed by town meeting to the community resource committee and finance committee by October 31st and they Subsequently were reported to the council by the end of November 2019 Now that's a long motion. Let me just go back and recap what I tried to do. I used ad hoc I Created a committee with membership described I gave it a charge and Got a little more into that charge and said what they should do by when and And none of that violates the charter Yeah, that was much better than your first days. I'm sorry What What did you just say Lynn? I just had a I had a question Then I had a question as you read out membership you I said he did the staff member or town manager And we had originally thought we needed someone from internal to talk about the consequences So do we not think we're not a voting member of the committee? They can always be appointed to help okay? Okay, and you made it three counselors rather than three counselors three counselors and Two members of the public arts Commission Steve so one reason I like that is because it it makes it two active members of the of the arts Commission and the former chair Can't participate at you know actively, but I like the fact that it's active members of both the council and the The former chair is still on the public arts Commission. Oh, yes. Yes. No, he's not But still I think that Well, then I could make it a friendly motion and say it yeah either to present or former members I actually like it the way it is. I like it the way it is that there's active members of the arts Commission that Can be involved in this former chairs of the arts Commission can be involved as non-voting members, okay? The motion has been made and seconded. Let me just tell you how I would go about following up on this as I have done in the past I would pull all counselors to ask you if you were interested I Would also go to the chair of the public arts Commission and say who would you like to nominate? And I would come back to you on September 9th and say here is who I propose. Do you approve? You have your committee. It's November 9th. I September 9th September 9th and I just want to point out you came to me you came to the Council you came to the president not me the council you came to the council you came to the president you said we would Like to form this committee and we've said and you've given me some sense of what you want to do And we've done it within the structure of the Charter and we can move ahead And it could all get done in one night With one more meeting for appointments Evan So so I'm first of all this is very hard to just picture what you just did But it sounds like you kept everything the same because if you added something to five you did you deleted one I assume I did and you changed the membership and then you changed all the word work group to ad hoc committee So we just this is absurd to me With all due respect because we just spent an inordinate amount of time talking about how Necessary work groups are and how we can't possibly accomplish what we want to accomplish Under ad hoc council committees and then we're literally creating a work group as an ad hoc council committee So that next week we can potentially turn around and say but going forward that would be a work group This is absurd to me and it only and if we're gonna do this then the entire discussion We just had of work groups is is Pointless because we can accomplish. We're admitting that we can accomplish exactly what we want with work groups in ad hoc council committees I don't understand what just happened My point is you can do everything you want to do using ad hoc committees by coming to the president Or the committee chairs and saying you know two or three of us have identified this and we'd like to do that Here's what we'd like to do Pat Why can't we just call it a work group that the because we don't have the language for a work group and this I'm trying to get this committee. I know. Okay. I know and and I We might still go back and we might still work with the issue of work groups or study groups or whatever you want to call them meantime This is what I'm trying to do is create this committee I Won't this is I mean I will vote against this motion and I can lose that vote But to me for us to argue that in order to do what we want to do We need work groups and then to do exactly what we want a work group to do as an ad hoc council committee Completely negates of need for it. It just proves that we actually don't need work groups and in that case Why are we doing work? Shalini I Think the the fact that we are creating this Group does not mean that we've decided you may well be right that one way or the other But the fact that we're creating this group is not that we're admitting that this is the best way to go forward It's just that this committee needs to get going and we are creating and making an exception and saying let's get this Committee going while we hash out the issues whether we want a work group or we want an ad hoc committee or not and then And you may be right at the end of our discussion We may decide that ad hoc is good enough But we it seems like we are not feeling fully settled with the idea that that is indeed the best way and some of us Still feel that work groups are going to be more nimble and efficient and so but we don't want to hold this process back That's why we're going ahead. At least that's why I'm going ahead with this vote And I call the question Okay Questions been called We have a second Steve was the second to the motion Thank you The question has been called. We need a two-thirds vote and it has to be a roll call In order to determine whether or not we are ready to bring the question the full question to the floor The ten the question is whether or not we are closing debate and That's not what I meant I may have said the wrong thing you put proposed a motion and it was seconded Yeah, and so I want to vote on that motion Right, okay, right Yeah, we're arguing we're we're ready to close debate Okay Athena are you ready to move with us? Yes? Are you sure? Okay a motion to close the discussion Councillor D'Angeles Councillor Dumont Yes Councillor Grismar. Yes Councillor Haneke. No councillor Pam. Yes councillor Ross No councillor Ryan Yes councillor Shane. Yes councillor Schreiber. Yes councillor Steinberg Yes councillor Schwartz. No councillor Baumann Yes, councillor Brewer nine four Nine yeas for no That's two-thirds. That's two-thirds So we'll move to the original question. Let me read the motion Okay, I move to create the percent for art bylaw ad hoc committee the percent for art ad hoc Committee shall have five voting members appointed by the president of the council three will be councillors and Two will be active members of the percent no, excuse me of the public arts Commission The focus of the percent for art bylaw Ad hoc committee shall be to update and revise the percent for art bylaw Passed by town meeting in September 2017 The percent for art bylaw ad hoc committee shall revise the previous bylaw To address concerns identified the Massachusetts legislature Clarify definitions respond to questions or concerns raised by council committees propose a revised version of the bylaw for consideration for the committee for the By community resource committee and finance committee the percent for art bylaw ad hoc committee shall provide a revised and updated bylaw With a report explaining changes for the original percent from the original percent for art bylaw passed by the town meeting to the community resources and finance committee by October 31st and That will move on to the town council by November 31st November point of order 30th Point of order. Yes, and the agenda has that this should receive public comment before a vote Thank you, is there public comment at this time see none We'll move on So the motion has been made and seconded the question has been called all those in favor Roll call. Thank you. All those in favor will signify during the roll call Councillor Dumont. Yes Councilor Griezmer. Yes, Councillor Haneke. No Councillor Pam. Yes, Councillor Ross. No, Councillor Ryan. Yes Councillor Shane. Yes, Councillor Schreiber. Yes, Councillor Steinberg. Yes, Councillor Swartz. No Councillor Beaumont. Yes, Councillor Brurr. Yes, Councillor D'Angelo. Yes, that's 10 in favor three opposed Thank you Moving on John, please come forward and thank you for your patience Okay, the subject this evening is the affordable housing Priorities policy and let me just mention to you that this The motion that we will be dealing with is a referral to CRC So it may be that this is not this is certainly not our only opportunity to discuss But we want to take the opportunity to have it introduced to us Thank You madam president Good evening for the folks who don't know me those still awake at home and those watching overseas I am John Hornick chair of the Amherst Municipal Affordable Housing Trust. I Want to begin by acknowledging my appreciation to town council for your support for the plan developments at East Street School site and 132 North Hampton Road That's all great But I'm back before you because it's not enough We have a continuing affordable housing crisis in Amherst and we have to commit to doing more. I Have a handout which you can read at your leisure that outlines the key elements of the draft policy which we are asking you to a Review and support as well as providing a number of what I would call disturbing facts first four facts First Amherst has no goals for the development of affordable housing As someone once told me if you don't know where you're going any road will get you there to Among the reasons why we have an affordable housing crisis is that the student population Has taken over market rate rental property in town Since the year 2000 the numbers of students seeking off-campus housing has grown each year to 16,741 students and It is expected to increase again by a few thousand more this year as I read our newspapers Three if you are economically poorly off in Amherst you often can't find rental housing even with a subsidy for example in the last two years 2017 and 2018 the Amherst housing Authority our local housing Authority issued a total of 70 section 8 or movable housing vouchers of the 70 only 16 were leased up in Amherst 23 expired before they could leased up be leased up anywhere in the area including Holyoke and Springfield for rents continue to rise in Amherst exceeding the resources of both low and middle income individuals and families an Estimated 75% of renter households are either cost burden or severely cost burden Which means that more than half of their income is allocated to the costs of housing What can we do about it? The first step in creating a commitment is to set some goals We can go from being a town which has no goals for the development of affordable housing to a town which has goals The town policy drafted by the housing trust that we are asking you to review first and foremost will set goals and Further to make a commitment to then meet those goals 250 new units of affordable housing over the next five years or so It's a bit of a stretch But we can do it if we set our hearts as well as our minds to it On behalf of the housing trust I look forward to your review and eventual approval of a real town housing policy Please join us in this enterprise and also in our fall housing forum likely early in November Thank you for your path support and Consideration of this draft town policy. You have questions. I'll be glad to try to address them Are there questions at this time? Yes, Alyssa So I appreciate the additional two-page handout Which I'm sure will get added to our packets sometime tomorrow in addition to the 12-page document. We already had in between these two documents though on my friend, I'm not seeing the policy that I actually Need to pass and so I'm trying to understand. Do you want do you mean the first four pages or? Exactly which I have all this Documentation is excellent. It's just what's the actual? Policy you're gonna want us to eventually pass after it goes through CRC a fair question And I'm sorry for the ambiguity There's a little bit of a preamble which is about the first half or two-thirds of the page of the full document and Then the room the actual policy is the next three or so pages Until you come to the justification You are not being asked to either adopt the preamble or adopt the justification particularly the Kind of facts or information that's there or that I briefly pointed to tonight so it is About three and a half pages of prose That would constitute the town policy Is that clear? If I might Yes, I'm sorry It is But it's too long and so I will ask the CRC, you know as we continue this discussion to work on a way I can't I Can't imagine how we're going to actually manage a four page policy and so what that actually means on a practical basis for what direction we're giving because This is a lot of prose again all incredibly valuable as to why we got where we got to But what will it mean to have a four-page housing policy? What will be done with that four-page housing policy? Okay, that's an appropriate question to CRC Evan did you have a question? Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Yes, Shalini So I was looking at your Amherst housing trust strategic plan for the year 18 to 22 and in that the largest unmet need was with respect to people with disabilities and Following houses for homelessness and I was wondering why there was no I mean those that was not Incorporated in the goals that you sent us Housing for and also workforce housing, but that's another need Okay, I can address the first and that is I did think and it is included on the Two-page document that I distributed that there are goals that are by population The units or a number of units to be developed for each specific population Are not present in the goals the goals are more directed to The levels of Economic difficulty that people are in 80% AMI 50% AMI, etc Frankly 250 units is not very much It's probably as much as the town can do Unlikely that we can do more even with The anticipated Addition of outside dollars from the Department of Housing Community Development So to some extent what gets developed may be serendipitous depending upon or I should say Opportunistic would be a better way of looking at it depending upon the location and depending upon Where people generally perceive the greatest need? But if you look at the length here policies that we have earlier adopted The housing production plan and the housing market study They Again are generally not specific but talk about numbers that particularly the housing production plan that are much greater than the 250 in terms of need that I've just mentioned So I think we need a realistic policy. It may still be a stretch goal But it's something and then within that I think we have to decide what the priorities are But what's most important is at least putting a number out there That says is our goal and we're going to monitor and see how we do over the next five years I assume it will include Units for people who are or have been homeless units for low-income families and Then along with the first two units for people who are as individuals or low-income Some of whom are going to be disabled It will include some support for home ownership Etc. All of which are good goals But I would be reluctant at this point to say how many units would be assigned to each of those populations Dorothy I read the bigger policy and What I see lacking are qualifiers adjectives There's nothing that says what kind of housing that addresses Sense of community places to gather Recreational areas now I've seen some of the really great community housing in town And so I know that you've done it But when you set a big goal and we have a big need I fear something like Soviet concrete block places where you say yes, we have housed everybody But I don't think we want that so I know it's a very difficult thing when we don't know how you're going to pay for this But we have to do it But I do think that some of those words and and concepts have to be in the policy In principle, that's fine from my point of view if you look at the request for proposals the town has recently Released for the East Street project. It does include Reference to those kinds of amenities as part of the responsibility of the developer So I think your point is well taken. It is certainly something that we all should want to see Are there other comments at this time remembering that this is a referral to CRC Or that there will be a motion to refer to CRC. Yes, I I have some basic background Types of information that will help me understand how we got to 250 or whatever number is in and so I Can send them to you John, but you know, they're just It's a little along line Dorothy just asked but I don't even know how we count units so if I Create a two-bedroom house is That two units or is it one if I create a studio apartment that can only have one is that one So is it the physical thing? And I would love to see how much have we actually created since 2013 how much have we created or it's in the pipeline Total housing as well as what subsets so it's some specifics because I we don't count In our affordable stock as I understand it when CPA gives vouchers to go Decrease the rent in places that are artificial section 8 and we're not giving a lot of those But they don't count I don't think toward the number of units we've got working and they're not you knew and how do we count habitat for Humanity houses. I just like would like a better sense of that and then I Was I looked at the statistics about families with kids and the G the age distribution and being data-driven usually I Looked at the state of Massachusetts. We're down a hundred thousand kids in the state. This is a National phenomenon that even when we get families, they don't necessarily have children anymore in them And so part of why we've got such a skewed percentage Is if you took the students out of our Population and said who you know who are just here for a few years. We're not that much slower Northampton's been going down You know surrounding communities are going down. It's just that we've got this big chunk of 18 to 24 year olds that nobody has in is concentrated So it's a little bit more framing because are we expanding the total housing base? You know, what's UMass doing and how much of the stuff that's coming online? Where quite a bit is coming online will be completely unaffordable for the targeted group or can some of them be marginally more affordable, so I just need more so if CRC asked for just more You know, how do you come up with a number as the target given like who you're trying to reach? Okay, I can briefly answer a couple of your queries one is a unit is the physical unit Irrespective of whether it's a studio apartment for one person or a three bedroom Unit for a family Units are formally counted if they go on the state subsidized housing inventory and there are formal rules for Whether they are considered affordable and therefore counted on the subsidized housing inventory. I don't love all the rules But there you are It helps me more to get a larger framework because the total population is not actually growing that fast of The town of Amherst. It's just the who who is living here. Yes. I agree as far as new units the Town Planning Department does a very good job of tracking those. Yeah So those should be readily available both with respect to What's been developed in the last few years as well as what's expected to come online in the next year or two? The major pressure comes from the University It's not only from there. There are other reasons why we Don't have housing how it was really lost housing for young families One of it is the town has people like me who once had kids living in their house who went to the Amherst school But now we've aged out But we still live in the town and there are a lot of us here as well So it's important to acknowledge that as one of the reasons why we have less housing for young families But there's no question That It's gone down. I agree. It's a statewide phenomena. It's a local phenomena But frankly from the analysis that I asked the Pioneer Valley Planning Commission to do for us the rate at which the number of school age Children has dropped in Amherst or at least families with school-aged children is more precipitous than what we've seen in Northampton or the rest of Hampshire County and I think it's because you know if you look around my neighborhood you have families that kind of aged out of having children but in a two blocks Which has 25 units eight of them are now Occupied as student rentals and there were no student rentals when I moved into that neighborhood I don't disagree with it. I'm just just a framework would be helpful and money when I went out on Campanning one of the things I thought was pretty remarkable is my voter list had eight people living in a house with two bedrooms in it And that wasn't supposed to be possible. They were the student rentals We don't police the num and we you know on the voter list so that were many people and you could kind of the cars So we also allow we're pushing that housing stock out of the marketplace So I understand it's it's it's a demand and supply issue I just a little bit more because otherwise we're always racing against the clock You know because you know if you mass doesn't start to create more on campus or worry about this It's it's taking the stock we have that used to be reasonable when someone ages out of their place and Then off it goes. Yeah, I don't disagree I'd like to suggest that we move but by doing so Ask that the chair of CRC Consider calling one of your meetings as a committee of the council and we can then have a much more in-depth joint meeting Through your committee if that would be possible because I think there's a lot more questions and I don't want to rush you No, or others into that conversation Is that okay? If there's no other are there any other questions at this point or points to be made yes I'm always leery of these additional meetings we have that are outside of council meetings that were really kind of all expected to be there for and We did that with a bunch of finance committee meetings and now we're doing it with the CRC meeting Which is typically not at a time that people who are not on CRC can attend and so I Totally get what you're talking about But I think the reality is we should be done with our agenda in the next ten minutes And we haven't even touched on one of the most important things we do as a council because our agenda was too full tonight So I don't know that we can fix that by all going to a CRC meeting instead I think we just need to have another discussion But maybe it's not immediate as much as we'd like it to be soon or maybe CRC works on it for a while And then brings it back. Let's fine, too Okay, or they might schedule it at a different time or whatever be open to it Shalini I Also, wanted some clarity around what we are asking the CRC to do is in terms of they're gonna be setting goals for for housing affordable housing in town and Are we looking at even strategies except there's some policy implications around the tax incentives we give or So at our zoning or so are they also going to be looking at how to make that goal possible? Or and what else will that in homelessness? What what are we doing with that? Where do we send the homeless people? I mean, there are a lot of questions around it. So what are we asking the CRC to look at? Those are very good questions One thing to amend as I said in my letter to President Riesemmer I am also asking the Community Preservation Act committee and the planning board to look at the policy At the same time and so I expect that each group will have its own changes that it wants to make and Then in the end we somehow put them together and come back to be in a position We were all on the same page with respect to the development of new affordable housing in town It's a mandate job so is this then something that ultimately our recommendations or requests go back to the affordable housing trust Before we act as a full council on this it would seem to me that You're in the process of collecting feedback That we go back to the affordable housing trust and then come back to the council That's what makes sense to me since I think that not only does the council and the trust have a role to play in these developments, but the planning board and CPAC also have significant roles to play and so I think there needs to be some unity Around what we're planning to do and so I think we need a process that leads us there Do you have a timeline that you're working on? Well, I've asked each group to get back to us with some feedback by October 1 Because I don't want the process to go on forever. I understand there may be obstacles to that But that's was the initial request that I made It would be great if we have a policy Final policy that we can ask each board including the town council to adopt say By the end of November or certainly by the end of the calendar year So it seems to me going back to your question Chalony that what we're asking CRC to do is to review the proposed policy With regard to issues that we've already raised and additional ones that they may cite and make recommendations back to the council or Back to The affordable housing. I think we're a little concerned about the process here Well, ultimately the council among the groups that I've mentioned is clearly the most determinative, right? So I think that Again, I I can't tell you what to do it may make sense once the CRC is processes Process this to say, okay, let's go back to the council and get some additional feedback or agreement from the full council Or it may say well before we take to the full council we want to know what feedback you've gotten from the other committees and Put that into our thinking as well All right, let me suggest that CRC needs to come back to the full council with a set of Recommendations etc. With regard to this that would then be forwarded to the housing authority We would not necessarily at that we are certainly not at that point going to vote on the policy Going to vote on the policy with the first report coming back from CRC It's it's going to go then back to the housing Trust and then they will make revisions and come back for another round of review Yeah, that's what I expect will ultimately happen because as I said, we're trying to get the entire Town or at least all the key actors on the same page. Okay, could you also provide us with the Outline of your timeline and your reviews and so forth so that we kind of understand Where to fit this in with our agendas I'll do my best. Thank you. Like I said, it's a little dependent upon those other groups as well, right? Are there additional questions Shalini Again, I don't know where this question fits in but what I've been learning so far is that We may have housing, but there's no central Organization through which people who need the housing can go through it seems like even if they get vouchers They have to go it's on them to go and find where the units are So it's not like there's a central list and once people are on the list then they are notified. It's like It seems I mean that's something to consider like what are other towns doing is there a central housing, you know Processing through that and also a database. That's central That's collecting information if you don't know how many homeless people are what's happening then so do we have the data collecting? happening in town locally We have some data, but I would not say we have complete data the housing authority maintains its own list for its own purposes to refer people of Where there are units available in town on the other hand, you know, it's their experience notes And my source is Aaron Cassidy who's in charge of the mobile voucher program at the housing authority That information alone does not assure someone is going to get a place to live far from it Okay Yes, George. I think for me that the biggest challenge in this is going to be how to fit it into the larger picture How to get me fit it into the larger picture of housing in Amherst and Whether CRC will be helping us with that question or helping me planning department I don't see how I can create a affordable housing policy without a larger sense of the overall housing situation and how it fits into that So it's something I'm hoping that CRC can help me with something. I'll be thinking about a lot as well, but Passing on this policy in isolation is something that troubles me. So I need to have a sense of the bigger picture Yeah, however, I get it. I mean, I think one of the things that concerns me is what are the Policy and financial implications and I don't mean come up with the dollar figure just to know where they are Okay, are there other Questions for consideration as this goes to CRC Shalini Pass Okay, any other questions or considerations Andy are you still with us? Yes, I am I did have a question I did But I was it pertains to the motion. So I was waiting till the motion was made Okay, would you like to make them out? I don't think you can Kenny Can a person that's remote make the motion? I don't think so. They can't I'm not making a motion It's all right pertaining to the motion the motion that I would like to hear is to refer the draft affordable housing Priorities policy to the community resources committee with the report back to the town council I believe it was stated by October 1st 2019 I want to just remind you before you have a second that report may be that we need more time. Okay, is There a second I second, okay Anything else at this any other further conversation what Andy? Yes Yeah Yeah You had Lynn had mentioned financial implications as being one of the things that Needed to be considered in the long-time advocate of Portable housing and had to mention this Some poor thought going into it But we're talking about CPA funds CDBG funds tax incentive financing In town surplus property is four out of five named Subsidy Costs and in part four all of which have significant financial implications on the town and therefore it did cross my mind as I was reading this that Is to whether it should have been referred both committees the finance and the CRC committee and I decided what I was going to do is point that out and then if any members of the finance committee Who are in physical attendance at the meeting wish to Make a motion to amend to add their The additional committee and then which they said to look at the financial implication Questions and be able to comment on them I'll leave it to them to make that decision if some of them come forward them. There's no support for doing so But I was the one point I was going to make So as a member of finance what I had thought I would do was go to the CRC meeting when they're talking about this and try to Raise those issues. I think it would be efficient if we could do them in one rather than about but I'm fine if there's time to get this before finance also, you know with the timeline John's laid out So just looking for feedback on targets and policies It sounds like adding a framework on what are the resources that we can bring to bear on all of this to make sure my back to Where's 250 come from, you know is it may be a stretch goal, but should at least be not Past Medicare for all or you know, you know something that we can't do here in town something within our reach Mandy jump So I was actually gonna say something similar to what Kathy said Unlike this percent for our bylaw that got stuck in two committees and neither committee wanted to do something without knowing What the other committee was doing I couldn't see this one since it is really going to be just a recommendation and Stuff back to the affordable housing trust that both committees can have their conversations at the same time They don't have to come up with the same thing or be working off a similar document even To make those recommendations and bring them back to the council for us to then forward them onto the housing trust So if finance believes there's a financial component that they'd like to consider I would support that referral to them too. Okay, so are you making an amendment to the motion? Sure, I'll move to amend it to add a referral to finance committee. Is there a second? Okay, the motion's been made the amendment to the motion has been made is there any further conversation on the amendment then Roll call. Yes, Paul. Do you just want to take that's a friendly amendment? Sure So the friendly amendment is to refer the draft affordable housing priorities policy To the community resource committee and the finance committee with a report back to the town council by October 1 2019 Okay All right Are we ready for roll call vote? Yes Councilor Grisimer. Yes Councilor Hanakie. Yes, Councilor Pam. Yes, Councilor Ross. Yes, Councilor Ryan. Yes, Councilor Shane. Yes, Councilor Schreiber. Yes Councilor Steinberg Yes Councilor Swartz. Yes, Councilor Baumann. Yes, Councilor Brewer Councilor D'Angeles. Yes, Councilor Dumont. Yes, it's unanimous Thank you Thank you, John. Thank you all for your consideration. I will see you all in one committee or another. Right We are now moving on to item 7E Which is the composite evaluation memo for the town manager and Since I was the one in charge of the changes. Let me just explain to you what you have before you So I took all of our recommendations last time including the ones where I made editorial things and I provided you with a copy where all of those are shown in red and Including those paragraphs where there needed to be revisions Then in addition to that I went back and using the changed rule of 30% I Unbolded bolded or italicized various items and then when I got done with all of that I provided you with a clean copy with only one note that basically is with regard to page 8 and It said I did not include the concept of more centralized coordination Organization as that should be forwarded to the discussion of goals and indeed Shallony just brought that up so I Didn't include that I have since Been alerted to the fact that there is one typo and that is on page 5 under the collective bargaining agreements and It is in the fourth One two three fifth sentence The word manages should not have an S. It should be manage Now we can go through this and I can highlight the changes particularly I would note the changes where we have made You know additional paragraph kinds of descriptions and I have prepared a set of slides for that if you'd like to do that Yes, Dorothy. I would like to move to accept the report as edited Is there a second? Shallow any okay? discussion Yes ninja so I found a number of Scrivener type errors, but we were told not to send them forward before this meeting Okay, and so I think it would be nice to have a chance to just go through page by page and Make those changes, okay before we finalize this. All right, then Let's start with page one Well, there's a motion on the floor that's been seconded and this could be done outside of the meeting I don't think that we need to take up Very we have a lot of things we have to do yet Alyssa so I At the risk of alienating things further I think it's ridiculous that we're just going to spend two minutes on this and say, okay Yeah, it's fine, but at the same time We did go through it in great detail before and if we feel like they are If they are not another substantive like a sentence or a concept being added or taken out I Wouldn't ever want to do it this way again that we're doing it at 1030 at night, but if they really are just commas and Perends and that sort of thing. I think we could do that But I do I would encourage that if anybody has anything substantive that they felt like wasn't covered that we should get that into some shape before we vote The substantive ones are the ones that are up on the screen and We can go through those and then if you have individual editorial comments Perhaps the best thing is to provide me a copy with them in that Just I have a question just on the very first one because I think this is more Mandy's category of Scribner Although I've never used that word. I do like it What you've done I think is you've highlighted High percentage commendable. Yeah, and you've italics the needs of improvement the things without anything are just the Satisfactory and see the way you've got the bold it has needs improvement in it So I think it's purely a typo. Yeah, because I look through what you've done And if it's not if it's not italic and not bold, it means it's the middle, you know Satisfactory, okay, so that's what you meant to do and yeah, yeah, so I think that just is typo-ish Because you did what we know but it does change the I think it's significant enough you should bring it up Okay, okay Think it was a good change that you've got You know, it makes it easy to read Are there any other substantive comments? Yes, so on page 14 You know way, this is substantive in a way. It's not The change in the second appearance of the goals is To a question that is not quoted in number one question 95 is not the participate in regional Assessment method and so the numbers that were changed the 38 to 23 and the 54 to 61 is for question 95 But that's not the appropriate question. It's question 38 and the original numbers the 38 percent the 54 percent the 0 percent are the correct numbers for that second appearance of Participate in regional assessment method. All right, so I need it's on number The large five and number one. I had it on page 14 Okay It's participation in the original assessment method. Yeah, so they should we shouldn't make the change to the last section Okay, those should be rejected and In that case Then this should be bold Correct Yes, because both times it appeared it had over 30 percent commando. Yes. Okay. All right Additional substantive changes. Yes, Evan So before I say anything about this, I just want to say yes, I was unable to be here last week I want to thank all of my colleagues for what appeared to be a tremendous amount of work In making this happen I'm sorry. I wasn't able to participate, but I'm also sort of not sorry Because it seems like there's a lot of work. So thank you. I think this would be considered substantive So my understanding in reading this later was that if 30 percent or more were commendable It was bolded to signify and so there seems to be two places one is a goal seven on page 12 Where it's bolded, but let me just get to it Encouraging workplace culture Yes, very bottom of page 12. It seems like it's bolded for only 23 percent commendable. That's unbold. Thank you And then there's a second place on page 15 number 6 it's listed as 8 percent commendable But that is also bolded 15 number 15 page page 15 number 6. Yeah number 6 Should unbold okay, and then again, sorry again on page 17 Number 27 the top one. It's also listed as 8 percent commendable 54% unable to judge that should be unbolded as well. Which one I'm sorry page 17 Goal 27. It's at the very top of the page Okay, that should also be unbold. Okay, Andy He lost him Alyssa. I actually wanted to make sure that you read the thing about modernizing and Saw whether or not I captured the essence of that. Yes, Andy Andy says let's call it quits He wants to call a question. You know, he wants to I think he wants to discontinue his remote participation at this point Okay, let's just become too difficult and too late Okay, Alyssa and I saw it just a moment ago. Do you have the page reference in front of you? Oh Boy, I thought you're asking me that it's toward the end It's on page 19 room for improvement. Yes Nicely phrase. Thank you Yes, Technic Lodge. Yeah, I think that's close That works. Okay. Are there any other changes at this time? Does this mean we need to see we have we can cease during roll call? It does Okay Yes, I'm just one quick one that I don't know whether is is but number 17 on page 16 the very top goals had two needs improvements When I went back and checked The zero percent is the one that should be deleted the eight percent is what showed up in the So eight percent is is the good one is the accurate one and the zero percent needs improvement should be the one deleted Okay Got it. Are there other if you have additional changes because of editorials then please Give me either a hard marked-up copy or Another one, but I'll send it to only me Alyssa just quickly when you Refinish this again, and we don't vote on it again because it's just done based on The things that you have and it gets published which is sometimes something we forget but it gets published in our next packet So everyone can see what the final version looks like please don't call it a composite because it's not it's a summary And what is it that you would like me to call it the title on the document itself is fine It's just when it was labeled in the packet It was called a composite a composite was like including that was like the giant stacks of paper Okay, this is a summary. So this will just be called the FY 19 town manager performance evaluation Okay. All right, if you're ready to move on call the question and be the motion has been made the To adopt the town man and Joe comment. Yes We had said there would be public comment on this. I'm sorry public comment from the agenda. Exactly. I'm sorry Are there is there any public comment? Seen none even though we still have some public here Thank you Okay, the motion that was made was to Accept accept and it's to accept As amended as amended the town manager evaluation moment Memo and that mention was seconded correct Okay, anybody else any further comment call the question all those in favor say I and raise your hand opposed Abstain yes One abstention, okay from Darcy Yes, the word composite got removed from the motion then I did yeah, okay So the motion passed with 11 yeses No Abstentions, I mean no knows one abstention and one absent Paul, thank you for a very Good year. Thank you all for all your work on this We didn't say that last week and I think we all felt like we went away not finishing our work All right We are going to go on with the agenda at this time. The next item is appointments and The first of the and both of these are town manager appointments and so Oka is the Recommendant group and the first one is the design review board Sure, so Oka discussed and voted on these This morning, so we don't have a written report for you I'm going to just if it's okay to speak to both of them because we sort of discussed them The design review board and the board of assessors will vote on them separately, but yes Well separately, but Oka voted unanimously to recommend both of these sets of appointments We had a really good discussion with the town manager this morning in our meeting Regarding two things in particular one was reappointments You'll notice that the board of assessors are all reappointments and there were some questions about How reappointments take place if they're automatic and if people Apply for vacancies, but there are already reappointments. What happens to those people in the town manager has assured us that anyone who applies gets an interview even if For a committee such as this one There are people who are up for reappointment who are likely going to get reappointed Everyone gets an interview in part because they might be interested in the future in part because he might find another Committee for them and in part because if they are perhaps better than one of the candidates already on the committee There might be a conversation to have about whether someone gets reappointed And I think that was a good thing for us to hear because there was some concern about is there really a vacancy if someone's just going to get reappointed The second part was about Vacancy notices Requesting that going forward our packets include not only the appointments and the charge But also the vacancy notice that went out to advertise for the committee Because that's part of the Charter mandated process and we see one of our roles is in OCA Perhaps also the town council is making sure the process is being followed and so making sure that those vacancy notices are provided So that we can see what was done to recruit people for a committee So we're going to take the design review board first Is there a motion and the motion would read? Yes, Alyssa? Two things before you read the motion Erica is got a K and Erica Erica it was correct in our memo from the year I see K. R. I. K. A Okay, okay. Thank you, and I also Was I could make the motion, but I also wanted to make one more comment on something okay chair of OCA mentioned I just want to be super clear that the phrase everyone gets an interview means everyone who isn't a reappointment Reappointments don't get interviewed at this particular moment in time, which is a topic of discussion, but Please understand that reappointments are not getting interviewed But anybody else who has asked as as Evan pointed out we asked about that everyone else who asked even if you think you're Going to reappoint somebody did get interviewed Okay Any further comments at this time Alyssa you want to make the motion I Move to approve the following town manager appointments to design review board effective immediately as recommended by the Outreach communications and appointments committee verbal report of August 26 2019 I'm also including a comment between between communications and appointments because that's the name of our committee For a three-year term to expire June 30th, 2022 Lindsey schnarr a reappointment for a two-year term to expire June 30th 2021 Catherine Porter a reappointment and for a one-year term to expire June 30th, 2020 Erica Zika's Is there's motion is there a second second that Evan Ross's second did it any further conversation? See none all those in favor raise your hand and say aye. I opposed abstain We have one abstention Okay, and one absence, so it's 11 for an unopposed one abstain and one absent All right moving on to the board of assessors Alyssa Sure, I can read. I'm also going to add a comment between communications and appointments Got it I moved to approve the following town manager appointments to the board of assessors effective immediately as recommended by the outreach communications comma an appointments committee verbal report of August 26 2019 For a three-year term to expire June 30th, 2022 the grand Heinz a reappointment and for a two-year term to expire June 30th 2021 Ken Hargrave's reappointment Is there a second George Ryan seconded that? Any further discussion? All those in favor raise your hand and say aye I Opposed Abstain. Oh, I'm sorry Dorothy was Darcy was opposed. Oh I'm sorry you're in. Okay. Let's start over all of those in favor raise your hand and say aye opposed Abstain 12 for one absent Okay Okay, we're moving on to Committee reports Okay audit Pat Yes, we'll be meeting at the end of October to create a timeline to get out the RFP probably in January Okay, I'm gonna slip right into bylaw review, please. Yeah, we are Continuing right now to go through for some refining some of the final bylaws We'll have a clean Copy starting around September 5th, but we'll be bringing The final report and presentation to the council by November 1st Okay, and that will require two readings. Yes as well as hearing I Think we'll figure that out. Okay. No, I don't think so. It's just two readings Steve CRC Really, there's no report other than to say that we continue discussion of the master plan at our last meeting And we're changing our time in September to 8 30 to 10 15 ish On Wednesdays Wednesdays to accommodate my teaching schedule. So thank you to the other members of CRC To all of you that are going to come to our meetings Okay I have no report for the council goals ad hoc committee finance committee Kathy There isn't any report, but I want to remind people that on September 5th There is a special meeting with finance and JCPC. So in addition to some of the other Issues, we will be discussing The large building projects at that meeting in a joint way And it's taking place in the evening. It's an evening slot seven o'clock. It's posted and there is an agenda for it So if anyone wants to just come and listen to that It's the first time we've done it in a joint way The goal of that discussion is to talk is to begin to talk about how to roll it out for Discussion across the council and also the community Okay We've also posted it so that if more members of the council are there than and Want to participate it can actually be a committee of the whole GOL it was all in the written report. Okay Oka The only thing I'll add is that Starting in the fall Oka will begin reviewing its process to bring forward appointments Recommended appointments for town council appointed committees And will you be bringing that forward to the council for our comment? Let's see what we get done. Well, our hope is our hope is to have something Forward December, but we recognize it's Thank you Okay Moving on to approval of minutes The motion is to approve the August 19th 2019 town council meeting minutes As presented are is there a second Second, okay Mindy Joe did a second. Are there questions comments changes? Okay, seeing none and let's move on to approval of the minutes is presented all those in favor raise your hand and say I I Opposed abstain So we had eight four Not against four abstain in one absent. Thank you town managers report Thank you Just a few items. I want to mention the Cpo's our community participation officers are very busy at this time of year they're reaching out at to at the various school events both for the university and the colleges but also for elementary and secondary schools and They are will be attending the neighborhood resource fair, which is September 6th and the Phillips Street neighborhood They've been Engaged with the complete count committee as they see that as an important target for their work and They are also seeking out additional Educational opportunities for themselves, which I'm really encouraging and so I'll talk more about that next time the rank choice voting commission met with the town attorney and The sort of important thing there. It's got the important things is that The State law will regulate pretty much what the town is able to come up with Whatever we do for our next voting Will need to be it will need special legislation if it's something outside the normal Sort of straight the way we have done elections in the past It's going to be ranked choice. It could be a hard Thing to pass at the state level because they don't want to start to pass individual laws The rank choice voting commission understood this And I will probably move its deadline for his report earlier So there's ample time to get through to talk through to go through the legislature Town Attorney encouraged the rank choice voting commission to engage our state senator and state representative early on Which they intend to do And we will have a they will have a backup plan Which will be a traditional voting model with perhaps a preliminary voting That would also have to go through the state legislature since we don't have anything for that at this moment in time So they're on it. It's a really strong committee and they're working pretty diligently And the third thing is that the We are recruiting for the principal assessor David Burgess was here tonight He's offered to continue working But we understand that he wants to call it quit sooner than later So we are going to be actively recruiting for the principal assessor which will once we recruit interview and A point then that would go to through Oka and we'll time that so you have ample time for the council to act on that and Then we'll see you all tomorrow morning at 7 30 just in a few hours At the university community breakfast and then tomorrow night at the first night a first day of school event. Thank you I really urge are there questions of the town manager or comments on his report Alyssa I wonder if rank choice voting might come to talk to us sooner rather than later given those options because I'm adamantly opposed to having a preliminary election 100% and 10% so that's not an adequate backup plan in my opinion I would much rather default to nothing and so rather than I'm not saying I would win that conversation But I think that conversation needs to be held with ranked choice voting before they go too far down a road in terms of what they assume We might want because there are plenty of communities that don't have preliminary elections and they get along just fine Okay, the other Question the other comment I had is in regards to the beautiful, but unfortunately not actually Readable by our computers in terms of search terms Town manager report, which is always an image rather than something I can actually say show me the part where it talks about the shelter Is that it is very repetitive from week to week? And so I'm wondering if we want to have a brief conversation at some point not now About what we would love to see in the town manager report so that he could put less work into it potentially And it would have new things on an every two-week basis Not three-quarters of the same things plus some new things worked in there because my eyes glaze over when I've read the same Thing the third time and I'm missing some of the new parts, so I just I want to make that simpler for everybody Yes Paul so if you read the very first line it says this report is pretty much the same as the last Report because we didn't get a chance came so late in the evening the council did not want to really talk about it So I changed some things but most of it was in case you wanted to bring up something So that's why I put that first line in there to say in case it looks the same it probably is I'm glad you mentioned it because I was going to mention it. Thank you Shalini Regarding graph park. I know there was going to be a program for kids and since graph park is not happened Is that program going to be rolled over for next year? What happens to that? Allocation that's a really good question. I don't have the answer to that question It's but the intent was to have graph park open earlier And so it would make perfect sense to do it next next spring or next summer when school that's out That's a really good point. I had not thought about that Thank you I'm sorry Darcy I just Want to commend you because I really do like these town manager reports And I have been sharing them at my district meetings And but I did think that maybe You could Somehow highlight whatever the new Information is on the report because I think it is actually good to still have the older information Because you know it's relevant until it's past the the date and Also, I just wanted to mention the Crocker farm school study because I Think there's there's still a you know a number of people constituents and others who really are pushing to Get started Use the funding that was that's been put in the budget and get started with that study So that we can jump start That piece of what we need to do and not wait for the MSBA report Man Joe, I would second Darcy's Comments on the Crocker farm I think for us as we move into the capital planning having information about what's possible at Crocker and how much it might cost would be helpful To the council's planning for capital planning purposes Yeah, and we do intend to move get moving on that But at this time of year the superintendent isn't prepared to take on this right at the beginning of the school But we're we'll have a schedule by mid-September Roll out. Okay. Thank you Additional comments questions Okay, then we're going to move on to town council comments I don't have any comments unless somebody wants to ask me a question How'd you spend your weekend? Future agenda items Councilor comments All right, topics not anticipated one future agenda item Is I don't think unless I missed it. We've ever done liaisons You would ask us at one point to say which where we wanted to be Yeah So at some point if you sent out a what do we want to liaise with we could Stop going to four or five meetings because we would know this one was ours So it's just one I keep I know it's been too big an agenda to do this stuff, but Okay Additional comments. Yes quickly announcements. There says you had done announcements at the beginning We want to make sure everybody's reminded of the parking forum That's Wednesday night at 5 30 in this room a little bit of a different time So 5 30 this room on Wednesday and the other thing is we keep talking about the joint JCPC town Finance committee meeting as though it's posted. It's not posted So we'll check on that. Thank you. It is that in fact will be posted and it is on September 5th at 7 o'clock in this room Yes, I remember that Andy's Said that the finance committee should come at 6 because we have to deal with That's correct big issue. We have several issues to deal with All of which will then be brought before the council on September 9th or soon after Okay additional comments All right topics not reasonably but reasonably anticipated I see none Then let me just state to the public. We're going to move into executive session. We're doing that for three reasons One is to discuss the strategy with respect to collective bargaining for units SEI you DPW DPW supervisors police patrol and police supervisors I Think we would also hear about fire as strategy session and preparation for negotiation with Nonunion personnel town manager Paul Bachman and then finally to conduct contract negotiations I will mention that we will not return to open session and If we conclude successful negotiations with the town manager, we will have a press release sometime tomorrow So therefore I asked that a motion be made to enter entering to executive session for the purpose set forth in the agenda item Second Okay, and that'll be a roll call vote counselor Hanna key Yes Counselor Pam. Yes, counselor Ross Yes, counselor Ryan. Yes, counselor Shane Yes, counselor Shriver. Yes Counselor Swartz. Yes Counselor Baumann Yes, counselor Brewer counselor d'Angeles Counselor Dumont Yes Counselor Grisner. Yes Alyssa, do you want to tell us? I've never seen an executive session treated so casually. We need to read off the rationale from MGL I understand that you were you were explaining it to the public But if we could ask the clerk of the council for example to insert those sections This needs to show up in our minutes and it can't show up in our minutes Very well, right there is a motion and we would like to have that inserted into the minutes That would be very helpful. Okay All right the so We will do that and at this point the vote was 11 for one opposed and one absent


Welcome to Toffy TV, it is the Everton News Daily as Carlo Ancelati held his press conference ahead of tomorrow's game against Chelsea at Godderson Park, which will obviously see the return of 2,000 Everton fans to the game, which is really good news. He revealed that Hamidro Díges will be unavailable for the game. He said he's not trained all week with a calf problem and therefore he will miss the game. He said it might mean a change to the strategy for the game. He's hoping that if he can train next week he should be available for Leicester. He also revealed that Seamus Coleman is still unavailable. There was a mention of that yesterday as well, but he hopes to have him back for the Leicester game next Wednesday as well. It's really disappointing news that Hamidro Díges is not available. If he's not fit, he's not fit and if he's not trained, that's just the way it is. Obviously, Leicester Díges is also not available for the game tomorrow, so two of Everton's really big threats that we've had this season, one on the left, one on the right unavailable for the tough game. There has been a picture today of Leicester Díges' training on the ankle, putting weight on the ankle, no longer got the cast on it. There have been images earlier on the week of him training with a personal trainer, doing a little bit of arm work and a little bit of ball work with his other foot while keeping the injured ankle up in the air. But today we've actually seen a picture of him, so that's really, really good news and hopefully fingers crossed we can get him back maybe quicker. I don't know, but the fact that he's putting weight on it is a really, really good sign. We've got a hell of a lot of games in the next couple of months, so we need him back as quickly as possible. But just another thing from today, Thierry Schmaw, 16-year-old left back, who had only just come into the under-23s, has been pictured training with the first team today. So a really speedy acceleration of his Everton career moving up to the training with the first team. That's a really interesting development, I suppose, with Neil's in Cuncw, not being prepared for the squad in the last few games. It's just being interesting to see whether they've looked at this kid and whether they think that he might be a better option to play left back. We'll have to wait and see, obviously, we'll have to see who's involved tomorrow and whether Ben Goffry continues that left back. We are really struggling at the moment with the injuries. Nowhere on Jean-Philippe Gabamon, he's managed me and asked a couple of times in the last few weeks and he keeps on saying a couple of weeks. So no more talk about him but James Coleman and look at Dean or going to miss the game against Chelsea. It's believed that Bore will come back in for Janach Balasi in January. Dean managed Neil Warnock says they still really want him and they could get him now, they would. So he could make that move which rarely he should have moved on transfer deadline. They obviously have me left out the Everton squad but he could make that move early in January. Obviously that would be a boost for everyone, be a boost for him because he really should be playing football and Everton to get him off the wages. He is out of contact at the end of the season but it would be good for everyone if he moves to Middlesbrit early in January. The FA Cup third round game against Rotherham has been moved for television. It is now a 12 o'clock kick-off on the 9th of January. It is on their BT Sports. So that's good because it can be very difficult if you are not with very little fans in the ground. It can be difficult to watch these FA Cup games. The FA haven't made it too easy to watch these games, certainly abroad. So that's good that it's going to be televised. So that would be a 12 o'clock kick-off. And also season tickets, automatic season ticket renewals which normally happen in January. Season tickets who are on direct debits who play pay over 12 months. Generally the season ticket just keeps on getting paid and paid and paid and paid. This year there will be no automatic renewal. So with everything going on with Covid, the club is obviously not sure at the moment what's happening. So they have suspended the automatic renewal. So there you go, that's just about it for today for the Everton News Daily. Make sure to check out our match preview. Make sure to check out the start on 11 show when that comes out as well. There's lots of exclusive shows over on our page. You can click the link to get over there if you want to join us on there. Give this video a like, subscribe if you haven't already. Thanks for watching. See you later.