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Welcome to the Monday, April 19, 2021 meeting of the Montpelier Design Review Committee. I will let committee members and staff introduce themselves by speaking their names. Eric Gilbertson, Liz Pritchett, Martha Smirsky, Benjamin Cheney, and Steve Everett, committee members. And Meredith Crandall, staff. Yeah, and he's very recording secretary. And Meredith, would you like to review the remote meeting procedures and process? I will. Just a quick question. Steve, were you giving John the meeting idea or was it somebody else I should be expecting to join? It was just John, he needed he needed the meeting idea. OK, no, great. Just trying to see if we were going to have another member of the public pop up shortly. So I'm going to share my screen here. This is mostly for people at home watching via Orca so that people can log in if they need to. 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I will now pass this meeting back over to the chair. Okay. Unless anybody has anything to add at this time, do I hear a motion to approve the agenda for the two applications? This is Martha. I move to approve the agenda. I'll second. That's Liz. All in favor of the agenda, please speak your names. Martha, Liz, and Steve. So we can go to the first application for 66 Main Street, the proposal for a seasonal outdoor seating. And I believe Jesse's there to describe the application. Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Steve. I just, I needed to unmute myself there. I, I am zooming on my phone. So if you see me doing this on my screen, it's just because I can't see everybody's faces all at the same time. So pardon me for that. I, though I do, I do see that Ben, I think has kind of the best dicks going on here with the, with the outdoor situation there. Um, I want to thank you all for hearing my application on behalf of charliots. Um, quite frankly, I had hoped that I was going to be here in front of you all again, with a very different and more permanent application for a long term outdoor activation of our space next to charliots. Um, but this past year has proven more difficult than we had originally thought it was going to be, um, as far as being closed down originally in spring, limited seating in the summertime. And thank you, uh, all for allowing us to activate this last season. Um, and then we're losing the end of the year as well. And into this spring, it's, it's just put me in a place, uh, where I'm not able to invest into a more permanent activation there, but do hope to. So I am here with, uh, the same application that, uh, I brought forth last year, um, and that is, uh, similar, similar screening, uh, as last year, um, same amount of tables and chairs with, uh, umbrellas, um, my Ivy ad that you, uh, all had recommended. And quite honestly, I found to be handsome, but also hilarious. Um, and I hope, I hope that, I hope that this was, uh, to all of you and to most of Montpelier, a really nice ad to, uh, downtown in the summer months. And I'm hoping that, uh, you all feel like as far as activating it again with the same aesthetic, uh, and again with the hope that, well, at this point next year, we'll be able to do something a little bit more permanent. Or if things go well, maybe, uh, I can come to you later in the season with, uh, some updates as we, you know, put a little coin in our pocket. So I, I am here at, uh, at your mercy and hoping for, uh, approval, but also open to recommendations. Jesse, this is Martha. I think we discussed this last year, but you have in here a diagram, a picture of an arbor, an ironworks arbor that came from the black door. Um, what is the use of that? I think you might have told us last year, but I forgot. Sure. We, uh, we had, we had installed that last year and we, we kind of, we had used that as an, as an entry, uh, way point into, uh, the, what we call the veranda. And so just beyond the veranda on our property, we have, um, we have, uh, a bartender there who is checking IDs to make sure that everybody who comes into the space is, uh, legally allowed to be there. Okay. So this was moved down into your outdoor space then. If, yeah, it was, we had moved it down there, uh, last year. Okay. And then I have just one other question. There's pictures in here of Langdon street and I'm not sure where they come into your application. Um, and that is, that is a great question. Let me quickly just re-engage what I've sent along to you here. Um, Jesse, why don't I pull it up on the screen? Okay. Would that help you? Or, or, it was the application packet. I know, I know, I know the answer now. And, uh, uh, the answer is there are pictures of Langdon street there because last year we were hoping to have approval to install Ben Cheney's, uh, gates at the front of the lot. And so that was a, that was, uh, pictures of those gates installed on Langdon street for Langdon street alive. We have, we have since, uh, installed one of those in the lot and it, it's very big and cumbersome. And we have not moved it since we laid it down. Mm hmm. Okay. And so the, the way that we had used that, uh, last year, other than the fact that we wanted to give, uh, Ben and his genius, a little bit of shine there on Main Street was to, um, use it as uprights for, um, lighting across the lot, because it was, it was very tall and it actually served as, uh, a great pillar to basically hang lighting along. Okay.  Is that the same reason? Same reason. Those are, those are there only, only to show that, um, they are public art and they are also useful public art. Okay. Do any of the other committee members have any questions, comments or suggestions? This, this Eric, I, I support the use of, uh, Ben sculptures, uh, there in, uh, you know, whatever way you see the best, I think making that a lot interesting and downtown is a good thing. Thanks, Eric. And they're obviously movable. Cause you moved one. That, yeah, I, I wouldn't say, say that they're super easy to move, but they can be moved. They're engineered to stay put if a large truck drives into them so they don't fall on anybody. Moveable only in the sense they're not permanently attached. Right. Tech, technically not, not permanently attached. Just, just sitting there with gravity, a lot of gravity. I always said that temporary is anything shorter forever. But they were, I mean, I guess I should say this, they, when we did put them at Langdon street, they were, uh, we did have to have them engineered so that when and if somebody were to climb to the very top of it, they weren't able to tip it over. So it is, um, it did go through engineering with, uh, DeWolf in an effort to make sure that it was not something that, uh, was a hazard to the public. For 200 pounds up at the top, it wouldn't fall over. You got it. Okay, unless somebody has any other questions or comments, I can read through the criteria that apply to the project. For all projects, number one, exterior design and materials of new construction or alterations of existing buildings are consistent and compatible with the characteristics of the existing building or other properties in the district. That would be acceptable. Proposed landscaping shall be compatible with the neighborhood and the site on which the project is located. That would be acceptable. Location and appearance of all utilities, mechanical equipment, fencing shall be cited to minimize adverse visual impact or adequately and appropriately screened from public view. That's acceptable. And then outdoor lighting fixtures, structural design of any outdoor lighting fixtures shall be compatible with the architectural design and function of the building and compatible with the neighborhood. That's acceptable. And lastly, landscaping, screening and site furnishings projects within the design review overlay district and subject to the landscaping requirements in section 3203 shall consider the following site furnishings, including fencing, seating and other types of site furniture visible from the street or side yards. Does landscaping obscure or undermine key architectural patterns or elements and see mechanical equipment screening? All of those are acceptable at this location. All in favor of the application as presented. Speak your names. This is Martha. I'm a yes. Eric, yes. Liz, yes. I'm going to abstain. OK, and Steve says yes. So it is approved. Meredith, you want to comment on the next step for Jesse? Yeah, so Jesse, we will get that permit out to you as soon as possible. It's going to be basically the same conditions about removal time as last year. And we're a little back now, but this should go pretty quick, but we'll get that out as soon as possible because I know you're going to want to set up as soon as you can. Yeah, I would like to. We have been we have had unusually nice early weather this year. Yeah, yeah, I would really I would like that. I want to thank you. Thank you all so much for the input and for allowing us to do this again. And I know that Steve. I was going to say thank you for coming before the committee and good luck with your project and hope you're wildly successful again. Oh, thank you. I'm going to knock on wood for that. And before before I leave here, I just want would also like to say, though, none of you have asked me yet, and it probably is not my time to speak. But I am a neighbor of John Mayfield's project. And I would like to say that I support it. Well, thank you very much for your support. Thank you, Jesse. OK, thanks, Sean. Thank you. Thank you all. I hope I hope that you are not on the Zoom for too much longer because it's really nice out. Good. Thank you. OK, take care, everyone. OK, the next application is for 54 State Street. And the applicant for Julio's is John Mayfield. And I will ask for people's input and I will read through the criteria, but I will recuse myself from voting since we have an interest in the property. And I will ask John Mayfield to describe his project for the committee. Thanks. Thank you, Steve. Thank you all very much for allowing me to come before you again. As you all know, it's still an interesting time in the in the restaurant business. And our goal with our project is to create an expanded outdoor service area for Julio's approximately seven foot by twenty two foot patio grade running in the parking lot right next to Julio's are running north to south adjacent to 54 State Street. It's a temporary seasonal request as like with Jesse, we would love to build something that was seasonally permanent out there. But there are issues with the parking lot that prevent us from requesting that. So it is definitely a temporary seasonal request for the summer of twenty twenty one to expand outdoor seating during what we hope is the end of this pandemic, which will help us rebuild customer confidence and dining out. We hope to be able to use it in future years, but understand this is a temporary one year application. The area will support three additional tables of four people and is currently within the Everett four foot right of way and another 10 foot right away that exists on the side of the building there. Um, it is the heady lot, so Tim will need to sign off on the project. And I have had some conversations with him. He would like to get a document put together regarding that this is temporary and does not in any way permanently impact any rights of way that might go along with that property. If Meredith, could you put up the pictures of what what we have or that take? Yeah, for me. Usually usually there's a little green box around what I'm sharing. And then every once in a while, it just doesn't happen. So this is the diagram and let me know, John, if you want me to scroll to something different. Sure, I will. So you can see we did meet on site. It's probably a question. Why are you going out to the parking lot? Why not just do a regular parklet? And we would love to accept that there's no parking space in front of Julio's the parking space that we used last year. The you folks were that the city was gracious enough to allow us to use is now being used by Oaks and Evelyn, which makes a lot of sense since they're there and doing well, I think. We met on site. I met with Tom McCartle and McCory line on site and they had some ideas on how to do this. There was a question of we're only going back, basically, if you were thinking about the side of Julio's. If you want to scroll to one of the side views of the building, I've got some pictures in here. I laid out some stanchions so you could see it. And if you just go a little bit further, Meredith. So we're coming out seven foot from the concrete base. If you want to keep going a little bit further. Here we go. There we go. It's sideways, unfortunately, I'm sorry. But oh, there you go. You'll see we're only looking to go back to the end of the windows of the wood in the front. We would not be doing any damage to the wood or touching the wood. It would then be built across in the front. There is an angle from what would be the I'll say the front side of the windows, the north side of the windows going back to the existing patio, and that is at roughly a 45 degree angle. And it's done that way so that there are no issues. That was something that Tom McCartle and Corey suggested because of line of sight for folks. There were some questions about will it impact deliveries? It should not. Most of the trucks of park, they believe that there's still plenty of room for tractor trailers and for two box trucks going down. We're basically going back as far as that first parking sign there. And all the delivery trucks park back in that area and don't come up past it. We would put a no with the city's approval. The no parking sign that's there is just in a sleeve. We would mount that to the outside of the railing so that folks know that they couldn't pull up next to that park for deliveries. We plan to use pressure treated deck board if it was again, if this was a multi year project, we might look at doing something else. Lattice work on the bottom six by sixes for the railing in the front right now. If you look at Julio's that metal railing in the front right there, there is right there would be great merit. Thank you. Yeah. The metal railing that's in front of Julio's has a piece that runs north to south right there. Yes, that would be spun out at approximately it's just about long enough. We'd have to do a little bit of extension with a little bit of metal, but that would be at the angle and that would be our front railing. Then for the back for the rear, we have a piece of that railing left over from some renovations that we're doing inside. And forgive my drawing, I really am horrible at it. But you can see right there, we would have that railing in the front. There would be lattice on the bottom and wood, the six by six posts we plan on bringing up to a height of about seven foot, possibly eight foot above the top of the deck so that and we'll put it, we will put a piece of five quarter across the top of that something that fits across. Or there may be lights on top of that solar powered lights. We haven't decided which way to go yet, or it could be used possibly for some type of very we're using umbrella out there. We have a big 15 foot umbrella, which should provide coverage. So really the plan is to have that there more for a detailed look and to probably put at least two solar lights there. On the rear, we would also be using the same type of railing. That would be squared off and not at an angle like that. Let's see. Yes. In the rear, again, forgive my sense of scale and my ability to draw it was not something I was gifted with. And then on the other side, on the parking lot side, if we can go down a little bit further, we are we have bought some black metal railing and we will be putting a piece of five quarter across the top of that. All this railing has the four inch requirements and nobody can know little kids can hurt themselves there. And we'll be at a height on this side of, I believe it's 42 inches. There will be a little space at the top and bottom and the railing itself is 32. So we'll have a five inch space at the top and then a five inch space at the bottom and then a railing across the top that's going across. I think it's drawn in there or at least on one of the drawings it is. And with that, I'll ask if anyone that's the railing that we'll be using. And the front and the rear. And then we purchased some metal railing for the side. With that, I'll ask if there's an out and the furnishings going on. If you want to go a little lower, that's the lattice work. Those are the chairs that will be outside. They're a silver aluminum and it's I'll call it faux wood. It's basically some type of an engineered product that looks like teak, but will never turn gray and is not nearly as lovely. And then down below, those are the tables we'll be using. They're 32 by 48 and they'll have two people on each side. These are what we purchased last year for when we had our parking lot in the street. Reflectors there, I want to say they're three and a half feet high. They will be in the back of the on the rear side or the south side of the deck in the corner, outer corner, and they'll be on the front side where the 45 degree angle meets the main portion of the deck as a reflector so folks can see them. With that, I'll ask if anyone has any questions. Oh, I was going to ask about reflectors and if you're worried about cars hitting it. Sure, that's always a worry, but just like when I had the park last year, last year with the park outside, I learned something that most people don't know how to park watching them pull in where they were. It was pretty amazing to see. But yeah, we've got the reflectors. I don't think I think with the way it's designed with the 45 degree angle, the city thought it was OK. It was a question that we discussed. So sure, it's not it's not really been designed reviews. It's ours. The city is OK with it. I think it looks like a good design helps out this summer. Thank you very much. I did have some support in my initial design. We we have a relationship with someone who knows something about design who is excusing himself right now, so he did give us a little input on what would make it better from my original thoughts. And he was right. If no other committee members have any comments or questions at this point, what I can do is I will not be able to vote for the project. I am it's abstaining, but I will read through the criteria and then Eric will comment on acceptable or unacceptable or not applicable. So the criteria that apply to the project, number one, exterior design and materials of new construction or alterations of existing buildings shall be consistent and compatible with the characteristics of the existing building or other properties in the district. Character defining features, finishes and construction techniques or examples of craftsmanship they characterize in historic buildings shall be preserved. This one doesn't have anything to do with deterioration and then see any treatment that causes damage to historic materials, including but not limited to physical treatments aren't again don't apply here. So Eric, would you call that acceptable or otherwise? That's that's acceptable. Yeah, I have one quick question that you're going to remove this during the winter, right? Oh, yeah, we'll be following the same guidelines as the parklets. So for this year, although I probably won't get it done as fast as some of the parklets are going to go up, so criteria number two, existing buildings shall be recognized as a physical record of time, place and use. Any new development shall be differentiated from the old, but shall respect and be compatible with the massing size scale. Architectural features detailing an overall character of the primary historic building and nearby historic properties. Eric, I would say that's not applicable. OK, number three, proposed landscaping shall be compatible with the neighborhood and the site on which the project is located. And they actually staff found that not applicable. Number four, location and appearance of all utilities, mechanical equipment and fencing shall be cited to minimize adverse visual impact or adequately and appropriately screened from public view. That's acceptable, doesn't really screen. I went between not applicable and acceptable. It's a weird, it's a weird clause in here. You know, because it's it's the location of the fencing shall be cited to minimize adverse visual impact, basically. And since there's fencing involved, I had to keep it in here. And then lastly, landscaping, screening and screening and site furnishings, projects within the design review overlay district and subject to landscaping requirements in Section 3203 shall consider the following site furnishings, including fencing, seating and other types of site furniture visible from the street or side yards. I would say that that's acceptable. And again, for historic structures, similarly, existing, historic and contributing resources such as street trees, fences, gates, walls, steps, gazebo, walkways, front and side yard pattern shall be retained or restored when impacted in the alteration. And then again, walls and fences shall be compatible with the site and the building and scale traditional materials and design the reflective period. Incompatible acceptable. OK. And that was all the criteria that applied to the Parkland. And I'll call for the vote. OK. So all in favor, please say your name. This is my say yes. Yes, yes. Eric, yes. And Steve, you're abstaining. I'm abstaining. Did Ben vote? No. Yes, I did. I say yes. I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. Well, that's because it didn't go through. Well, that's OK. So the vote is all in favor, so it has passed. Thank you all very, very much. Thank you, John. Good luck with it. Thank you, Eric. Thank you. I'm sorry, Meredith. You want to advise John with the next step is? Yeah, John and I talked earlier today, we can't actually issue the permit until we get the final sign off from Tim Heaney for the Heaney Trust because they're one of the property owners that this is going to be on our owners of property. So, you know, we'll get Steve's recommendation or the recommendation form from Eric slash Steve and we'll be working on the administrative site plan report that you'll get from us. But if you can get whatever you need from Tim, then we'll be able to actually issue the permit. So we'll we'll do what we need to do on this end while you're working on that. But I will. I've talked I talked with Tim today and we discussed some next steps, so hopefully it'll get addressed pretty quickly. Awesome. Meredith and Steve, do you want me to come down and sign the form to I can do that? Either Steve's office or whatever, whatever seems appropriate administratively. I think that sounds smart. I'll be here in the office tomorrow morning and I'll be here on Thursday. OK, or do you want me to stop by your office, Steve, and sign it? Either that or I can swing by your place on my way home and then drop it off in the drop box. I'll just I'll just I'll just come down in the morning and sign it. And and bring it bring it to Meredith or whatever needs to be done. OK, great. Again, thank you all very much. You're welcome, John. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Thank you, John. Next on the agenda is review and approval of the minutes from April the 5th. Does anyone have any questions, comments or changes to the minutes? Yeah, this is Martha on the first page at the very bottom. We're talking about the Sarduchies Project and the last sentence there says the impervious surface test came back with the score of a hundred. I don't think we want the word impervious. That means that there is not penetrable. And I think it's exactly the opposite. I'll I'll look back at what was said. Um, because maybe maybe the they actually said that when they meant the opposite. Come on. I'll I'll take a look. Yeah, I do remember Carol saying that the score was a hundred. But but it was. Very paint that means it's 100 percent impervious. That's a bad idea. That's exactly what we don't want. Well, actually, the engineer's drawings show that it it was perfectly acceptable because of the different layers built into the design. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's one of those things where if they actually said impervious test. It should say not impervious. Yeah, so I'll I'll I'll fix that as as it makes sense. Because sometimes even if what they say in the meeting minutes, you know, what they said in the meeting isn't quite what they meant. Sometimes it's hard to tweak it for the minutes versus just clarifying in the actual permit that's issued. Thank you for that. I think they're fine. OK, do I hear a motion to approve the minutes with that change? I move to approve the minutes with that change. All second. All in favor of the minutes with that change. Speak your names. I'm going to abstain because I wasn't there. Martha, yes, I wasn't there either. Ben says yes. And Steve says yes. So we have enough to approve. Does anyone in the committee or Meredith have any other business? Meredith, I'm assuming the City Council approved our grant. Yes. So City Council approved the grant agreement for the certified local government grant for the design review. Sorry, guidelines, brain short circuiting. City Manager was out all last week, so he hasn't been able to sign it. Once I get that signed version, I'll be sending it to the state. And once we've got it fully approved from the state, we'll be getting RFP out for bids on consultants or proposals from consultants to do that work. So we will keep you all updated, hopefully at the very soon. HPC will be meeting to review responses to those RFPs and we'll get going on working on those guidelines. Now, I can't remember the budget, but did you put in a time donated time or can we add it for the design review? That we could throw in. I hadn't included that in there as part of the budget, but I bet we could. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah, I bet we can because they'd be considered experts as well in their field. I hadn't thought of that. None of us had thought about that when I was doing the grant proposal. That I just thought about it because we're in front of design review. So once we've got the agreement signed, we'll count time from DRC members and HPC members. I think we can do both. Certainly one of my goals is to make these as useful to design review as possible. For sure. That's all I have. Ben, I've got to ask where you are. I'm on my back deck at my house. Oh, I don't know where you live, but that's really neat. No one has anything else to add at this point. Do I hear a motion to adjourn? I'll move, Eric. That's great, Ben. Did you see the river, Eric? I can see the river from where I'm sitting, which is really nice. Where are you? Street, what street? North Franklin Street. Wow. That's that's yeah, that's cool. This the piece of property that I'm on here, I found on Craigslist many years ago and it described itself as bordering North Street and the North Branch of the Winooski River. And I said, that doesn't exist, but if it does exist, it's a really amazing piece of property and it is an amazing piece of property. Yeah, cool. So do I hear a second for adjournment? This is Martha, I'll second it. All in favor of adjournment, speak your names. Martha, yes. Eric, yes. Liz, yes. Ben, yes. And Steve, yes. So meeting is adjourned. I'll have a nice evening. Thank you.


So I'd like to call to order the long run housing authority board. There's regular meeting this Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 at 7.25. We have roll call, please. I'll start with me, John Beck, Chair, Susie Lawman, Ferry, Commissioner, Marcia Martin, Commissioner. Everybody is Commissioner, Kim Lawrence, Commissioner. Paralymine is Paralymine, Executive Director. Interdainment is County Supervisor. I'll be O'Donnell, Housing Director. Paralymine is Regional Assistant. Sir, are you Bill of Safety? G. Cagallan, our Regional Manager. John McCoy, Commissioner. Tim Paul, Assistant City Attorney. OK, it looks like we're all here. We need to review and approve the May 16th minutes. Can I have a motion? I move we approve the minutes as per Senate. So that's been approved by the approval of the May 16th minutes. That's been moved by Commissioner McCoy, said we'd like Commissioner to double ferry. We are now at Public Invited Beekers. Oh, we have to go again. Oh, let's vote. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. All those opposed. So that passes you the others. We're now at Public Invited Beekers. Is there anybody from the public that would like to speak? Where's Dryger? He wanted to speak. He's not going to speak today. Yeah, I think he would. Do you want to speak? Ask a question. Yeah, well, stand up. And your name? My name is Stan Tholl. And I'm having problems of being putting into a second class citizenship because of the type of address I have in some places of denying services. And I don't really know who, if it's they're saying the city is putting pressure on them to do this. And then some people in the city says no, that's just a private group doing that. And it doesn't quite make sense to me. So at the point right now, I'm just trying to figure out where exactly this is coming from and whose pressuring group. So anyway, that's where I'm at right there. OK, thank you, Stan. We're now at Old and New Business, appointment of the deputy secretary. Yeah, so I'll speak to that. So when we actually got into the closing element on Janine, based on some of the financing models, there was a point where they needed somebody to attest to my signature that it was actually that had an office with the housing authority. And so the way that it's structured is that, fortunately, the chair came in that day. And it was like, well, I know that the chair is going to be in, but it's just sitting to remind for the chair. But as we were moving to closing, had you not been coming in that day, it created an issue. So our proposal is to create a deputy secretary of the housing authority, which is Erica. And then in the sense of her citing these documents or somebody has to attest that it's me signing it, we can do it. We try to say, well, why don't we just get a notary? It's not a notary that you need in there. It's actually an officer of the organization. And so that's why we're putting this on is to have Erica in that position so that she can attest to my signature and leave for the life of office. You don't know why that's in play, but it was in play in that deal. What is that? That's not in here, isn't it? Do we need a motion to do that question? Do you have a question? We do. Who's the secretary? You're the secretary. You are? Yeah, I'm the secretary. Yeah, that's the way that it's always been created is that the executive director or my position is the secretary. And so instead of mangling everything to try to redo it, we thought that the easiest solution right now is to say, we can create a deputy secretary. Disagree, but around this for six years and didn't know you were the secretary. I'm going to take a point, Erica, when I asked the deputy secretary, I don't know why I said that. I have a question. Yes? Erica, are you fine with that? I already notarized his signature, so I'm fine. Good question. So that motion to nominate, no, to move that Erica would be the deputy secretary is to move by commissioner Rodriguez and seconded by commissioner Martin. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed, that passes to you. So congratulations. Good job. So we have our resolution 2023-20, the ratification of the formation of Walgreens Housing Authority Ventures, LLC. So you want to speak with her? So Molly O'Donnell, helping director, I'll go ahead and open up this item. If you recall, back on the May 23rd city council meeting where you adjourned and opened up as the LAJ board to make this special item go through, we created LAJ Ventures LLC as a limited liability company for the partnerships in which we, from this point on and going forward, would be a special limited partner only, not necessarily in the co-development role or the ownership structure other than this special limited partner. The special limited partner role is really because we're a housing authority, affordable housing developers want us to come in that ownership structure so that they can qualify for tax exemption and some benefits. And make sure the housing authority also has a network that is really the center of a web of affordable housing. So we ended up creating that late in the game on Zinnia at the advice of our special council, which Tim also was involved in and everyone agreed that this was a smart idea. On Christmas 2, back a year ago, we entered as an SLP as the LAJ. And legal advice is telling us that if we create an LLC that is designated for that SLP relationship and use that on Zinnia and then future SLP-only relationship going forward, it would just reduce the LAJ's liability when they're entering into those partnerships. Tim, do you have a supplemental information for that? A couple things to add. One thing is different. Our Christmas and Zinnia and Christmas, we were more general partners in that deal. Whereas Zinnia, we were in that deal mostly for a special limited partnership. And so the negotiations centered around at that point guarantees from somebody who is going to have actual assets protect us in the case that some liability got to the LAJ. And the partnership wasn't willing to put in somebody who actually had pockets to guarantee us. So adding an entity allowed us to give up the sub-buffer space between any potential liability. Another thing to add is the Housing Authority law explicitly allows the Housing Authority in one of the enumerated authorizations of the Housing Authority, you're allowed to create entities that are controlled and operated by the Housing Authority to act, invest as a partner in the partnerships and take any steps necessary to be and otherwise develop a project. So the idea in the Housing Authority law explicitly, they set up the law so that we could do this. And then in the tax extension, they explicitly allowed that exact solution to flow through an entity that was wholly owned by the Housing Authority. And so the sole purpose will be to hold those special limited partnerships. So we're not going to put something as real ownership stake in an entity of property. It'll just be those 0.001% or 0.01% special limited partnerships that is just for the tax extension to the property. And so we can use that on any project that we have going forward. So it would be the same. OK. So we called it there were questions potentially about the taxing status of the entity. Could we want to address those? Sure, the entity is a limited liability company. I think there was questions last meeting about whether or not it was a nonprofit or a for-profit company. It is technically a for-profit company and not a nonprofit. That is the way those are always set up. That was the way it was set up as set on devices or a special counsel. I don't think you would actually qualify for a nonprofit status for what it does. But all it is is a pass-through entity. So for IRS purposes, it's a disregarded entity. And the money goes so there is a fee for us entering a special limited partnership. That goes straight to the Housing Authority. And then the ownership interest is held by this company. This company doesn't actually receive any assets. And I think in all of the deals, there's no residual assets that we can do with this. We're the sole corporate part of it, our member. Sole member. Which makes us the governing board of the LLC. Yeah. Makes the housing authority the governing board. Yeah, exactly. It's in sole owner and member management. OK, you raise a motion to move this resolution. So I'll move. Second, a resolution 2023-20 is moved by Commissioner Markle. Seconded by Commissioner Hedonokai. All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? So remember this conversation, because we're going to start building on this conversation related to the next few items that are coming forward. OK. Thanks for the heads up. Oh. Cheers. Thanks. So now we're at resolution 2023-21 to include the Adler College Property Tax exemption partnership. We were. That sounds complicated. So again, here, Molly again. So we're going to be talking about an affordable housing project, a proposed affordable housing project, that would not be owned by LHA. It would be more similar to the Zinnia set up, where we are a special limited partner if the board decides to do so. And then we'd be looking at being a third party property manager. So this is very similar to the Zinnia set up. Atwood Commons is 72 one and two bedroom units that are proposed at the corner of third and atwood. So there's, I think, a little gas in that. They're right now. And then the rest of the land is paved or bordered. So there's a long time long market developer that's had an option to purchase that property. They were looking at market rentals, market wholesale, and then eventually wanted to enter the Lytec realm and see how that goes. And also it is a good financing set up for this specific deal. Part of that, I think the project initially came forward with those oil and conservation regarding parking and other issues. One of the things that we also know about affordable housing projects is that when you look at what we see in parking and all of our affordable housing, is that it is lower than market rate. And so when our transportation, when our staff would get parking at Christmas 1, which is very similar to this, it actually was parked at a much lower level than what we would typically see at normal market rate units. And so that was another piece that started making sense as we were just looking at the deal in a holistic way. And this might be happening again, but I think we're looking at converting to Lytec. Molly, how do we use 72, one and two bedrooms? And so they are pretty far from the entitlement process. They do plan on putting in for a tax credit application August 1. And in order, they have to get some ducks in a row to give it to do that. One of those is proposing to do all of property tax exemption partnership. At this point, really what they need is just a commitment that we would enter into a partnership. In the past, what we would do is, for Christmas specifically is the model, we would bring forward a property tax exemption partnership concept with the fee built in and the fee is based on the affordability of the project and several factors. And then you would commit to that as a partnership. And then when we're preparing for closing, we would have an actual resolution outlining the entity entering the partnership. So usually that's what we would do. In this case, we are presenting it as a very conceptual commitment to a property tax exemption partnership that would be specific to following the policy in effect at the time that we are entering into the partnership, meaning they need a commitment for their August 1 tax credit deadline, but there are some changes happening in the world of income averaging that we're going to get into shortly that might affect our property tax exemption policy. And so we wanted to make sure it was flexible enough for you to decide later what the exact partnership would look like. It would still come back to you, but this is kind of an interim step to help them with their application needs. I think in pieces, even at the end of the day, it doesn't work out. We don't have to do it. It's just letting them be the requirements of the CHAPA application. And it's probably good to get into income averaging now. So the change condition, and I want to take you all back to Kristen, to when we started working that project. If you remember when we started working with Kristen, too, we were looking at income averaging. And what income averaging is, and this gets right, this is also related to the market study that you have to do, and where the units fit, and what it looks like with the component behind income averaging. So I'm going to make sure I go through this on my mind. The purpose behind income averaging is that what right now, under typical affordable housing tax credit bills, is really set at 60% AMI. And you try to get what you can, 30%, 40% in that mix. But you can't go over at 60% AMI. You remember at Crispin, too, we were talking about the fact that the IRS has said, you can do income averaging now, which meant you could go above 60% AMI, but you have to stay below 80% AMI. And you have a balance limit for you. 30, right. So you're getting to the point of income averaging is that what you do is you would use to utilize the higher incomes of, you know, in that 60, 70, to 80 to really generate more in that 20 to 30, 30 to 40, 40 to 50. So you get more down here, but you're offsetting that with the IRS. Well, we didn't use it in Crispin, too, because the IRS never came out with that third guidelines. And so everyone was sitting there waiting to go, where are the guidelines coming out? Well, the guidelines have come out. And so now we're seeing people come in and look at income averaging at the moment to this. This will be the only conversation the whole project were also looking at the same thing. And so there's some distinct, there's some differences in this. So when you look at income averaging, what do you think? Well, 70 to 80% is really market rate units. Maybe, not really. I mean, it depends on what you're doing, but again, you're leveraging the rents here to get more of this. One of the distinctions is that if you're in one of the 60 to 70, 70 to 80% AMI units, you still have to recertify your income every year. So unlike a traditional market rate where you just pay your rent, that's it. In this case, you have to recertify every year just like you would in a 40% AMI unit. So that's an additional burden that the people who live in those units have to deal with. It is also a burden that lets you maintain the rent structures because the rent structures are always gonna be in that range, it's not like you're gonna have market treatment and rents. So there's a benefit and there's a negative for the renter that's in that section in the average income piece. Every deal's gonna look different as we've kind of gone through this and it really basically, it's based on the variables that you're trying to reconcile. Is the primary variable gonna be increasing the affordability percentage? That may be right. Another variable is the type of units that you wanna put in to be a driving variable. That may be it. And there will be times where those two variables conflict with each other. So if you wanna put in three to four bedrooms, it's gonna be harder to maximize the percentage of affordability because the expense associated with building in terms of the amount of real estate that you're using because for every one, four bedroom unit, you could get definitely two, two bedrooms or depending on the space, you may be able to get two, two bedrooms and one bedroom. So every average income deal is going to be different which is this really most significant deviation in terms of how you look at this. Because it's hard to say well we're just gonna do this because the structure of every deal is going to tell you whether it's good or bad and it's gonna be dependent on a number of factors which is based on the type of unit that looks like applications. That's work that we have to do with you all. So I wanted to kind of jump in and cover that because that's gonna help you all frame your decision on this. So typing on to that and the reason why we're coming today with Atwood as more of a concept. The income averaging really does mean that you still, your final affordability for the property as a whole still has to be 60% AMI or below between when you average out all of the units. And so yes, the point is yes, there's a trade off. Let's buffer with these 80% units for example to get those lower AMI units. So in theory, you're supposed to be able to get deeper affordability in certain units but not have them fail a project. And that's the reason why they don't, most projects under traditional ITEC don't have as many 30% units but they just don't, they don't support the finances. So the reason in this is coming to Atwood. Atwood is a proposed income averaging project. Hover is looking at that as well but our property tax exemption policy that we just updated in February. Our calculation for our fee structure and the exemption that the project qualifies says all of your units at 60% or below. We wrote it that way because state statute requires the tax exemption to be proportional to the number of units or the percentage of the property available to low income people. It does not define low income, it leaves it broad. So we've been researching across other housing authorities. Some have had to figure this out and some haven't yet. Everyone so far is going to allow the property tax exemption to apply to a full development up to 80% if it's an income averaging latex project. So again, the difference is we have qualified the full tax exemption for a property that's all 60% below. So now we have projects that are qualified for latex. They're meeting the CHAPA requirements for affordability. CHAPA also values having mixed income communities and de-concentrating poverty, which this does. And so we just need to look at our policies and decide at some point coming forward, we'll bring it back to you whether we modify our calculation to make an every unit tax exempt up to 80% or not. So that's why for APA we're coming forward with a concept now, let us propose still researching, still discussing what this could do. And then we would bring back a property tax exemption policy update for you to consider, at which time these income averaging projects would then set in stone about their partnership looks like. So I may not have heard you correctly or interpreted you correctly. You said that the tax exemption policy does not define low income. The state statute. The state statute. What happens if you qualify under CHAPA, under LIFET, and an estate with your project doesn't recognize it as a low income since they didn't comply with it? So the statute, yeah. That is specifically speaking to the housing authority law. So it is in the context of the housing authorities. And so in the context of the exemption that we can give, like I was talking about through the entity, that doesn't define what low income is. The housing authority law and particularly that statute doesn't. LIFET, CHAPA, IRS has all said these qualify for the LIFET revenues. Okay. But our policy says 60%. Okay. So that's what we read low income. That's, you know, Walmart has used 60% for LIETEC in the past. We used 50% for the city programs. And we were basically just, we were making it. That's how you determine the proportion in our calculation. So that's how we were writing it. And then it can be averaging. Yeah. Yeah. And at the risk of making it more complicated when you're looking at what they're wanting to, what they're looking at in your averaging action. So they, part of it is to maximize the number of units, let's say 50% of them, to get more to put us up here. Kind of team and conversation will probably go more in depth in the development update is then in order to get financed, you have to do a market study. And basically what the market study is telling you in the financing world is, what is the likelihood that you can lease up all your units at certain AMI levels? And if you remember during Christmas when we talked about CHAPA stating that, I think it was CHAPA that stated that we're pretty saturated at 60% AMI. We're seeing that in the market studies. And so they then have to, in order to make the project financial, you have to really try to target where you're putting in the units where you have the lowest sort of inverse in the, so we're only going to go on to capture rates. So the lower the capture rate, the more likely it is to be leased. And so when we're seeing that this is the simple record, so on lower, what we're seeing is the capture rates are below 5% for 30s, 70s, 80s, which means the likelihood that you're going to lease those is pretty high. They're nearly zero for 70 to 80 because there are no 70 to 80s that we're seeing in the community. Light tax. Light tax in the long run. And then the capture rate at 50% AMI is 30%. So to give you a sense of the difference, you're reducing your rentability, the ability to rent the units at 50 because it's a good 25 point tire than the others. 60% AMI capture rate is almost 35%. And so they're having to manage that in terms of making the projects pass the financing test that the lenders bring into play. So you can start seeing where income averaging is becoming more of a discussion point in the light tech world because especially here is that if you see saturation here, then you're going to have to move here in order to make it more palatable or to the lenders as you're trying to figure out the limit. So that's another piece to this puzzle that as I stated earlier in the pre-session is something that's making us reevaluate, asks some additional questions on our housing needs analysis because we're seeing some things that aren't quite lined up. So the market studies are incredibly important to all of us. And I know it's probably going, what are you all telling us? Because it took us a while to start bringing these pieces in the puzzle together. But you can see that, you can see why they're trying to use this, what the market studies doing and it's really taking us this way and really moving out of that 50% to 60% or really more 60% than anybody would say. Right, basically we're saturated at 50s and 60s and we may not lease them very quickly which is not good for cash flow. Our markets show that we knew that we needed 40% and below. We've seen that in studies for several years. We need those and they will rent up quick because they're such a need. We're also seeing that this incitinance in maveraging is so new, there are no income restricted 70% and 80% units which again, the benefit of that is, amongst many things, you're not subject to rent increases that are unpredictable. You, it's very much more stable housing. So. And if I can add to this, remember I think it was a year or so ago when we heard the Councilmember or Commissioner McCoy joining us as we were talking through affordability, I think we looked up and said, it wouldn't surprise us in a few years if on the housing ownership side, we would go up and go 80 to 100% is shifting into that Capital A ownership. We said wouldn't surprise us if that's going to occur in the real market too. That's what we have to start digging into because we think, and I'm going to preface this by saying we think that a lot of our 70 to 80, our 60 to 80 inventory in our community are probably older units and all the newer units that are coming on are sliding out of that range and the lower rents are higher. And so we're going back on the housing needs analysis to say cart this up for us, show us what it looks like in new units, show us what it looks like in our sort of inventory because if we find that that's in fact what's occurring on the new units, that's just the canary in the coal mine to tell us that the rental margin is now going to be significant in that 60 to 80 because there's no units coming in to fill that. So those are the additional questions that are actually coming out of what we're learning in the market study that's now starting to inform a broader conversation. And to add on to that, we still want to see what our average rents are in the city because that's the people, that's what people have, they're not going to go to new or old, they're going to go to what they can afford. So that's the people, we want to see that. But when that is including both old and new stock, all we can affect change on new stock from here on with policy and what we choose to do. But we don't have control over existing stock and so we need to know that differentiation to guide policy. So our question again, when you say that you think it's going to go to the 60 to 80%, will that be defined through HUD as the next market for low income?  And does that change your affordability to run yours? I think they agree with you. So HUD calls 80% AMI low income. Oh, they do. They do. For most places separate that between for sale and rental market. In our area, at least in the state of Colorado, 60% AMI below is traditionally what rental, rental tax credit projects were capped up. And then really like for our programs, our down payment assistance goes up to 80. So we've been looking at this 60 to 80 range as for sale market, even though that is changing. And 60 and below is rental. And then further in Longmont, because our prior housing data showed us that 60 was saturated for the inclusionary housing programs, council chose to set it at 50 and below because we knew 50 and below is where we actually need the units. We don't need them in 60. Okay. And Chaffa's now sliding to 80% AMI. Right, that's right, that's right. The state is now moving there, which we still have a lot of work to do on this, but I wanted to tie all of these pieces together because it's hard to look at this if you just go, well, what about this question, but it's related to income averaging, it's related to market studies. Once we can be into it as a policy perspective, we may have to come back and re-examine 50% number because we may see something else occurring on that, for lack of a better word, that attainment of peace. But we've got to dig into that. So does Chaffa keep up with HUD? Because, okay, that's already done. Can we fund that at that level? We can for certain programs, yeah. Okay, yes. Is Brickwell a subsidiary, another company? Brickwell is a development company. Then they created this LLC, is there subsidiary for this project? But overall, Brickwell is the developer, the my tech developer of the project. Using this as a long-time long-time developer. So there is a long-time long-time developer that is now partnered with a my tech developer. Brickwell is the my tech. Differentiate, second question, just to differentiate, capture rate from occupancy rate. Capture rate is your ability, is basically the market that you have to build the units. Occupancy rate is once you build the units, are they full? So it's more of, what's your, I'm saying this right, what's the market that you have in your community, the people in the units, as you're looking at the future? Occupancy is in the future, and we're just having people in there. So it's cut into addressable markets, excuse me. I was just offering, yeah. I was, second question. Sorry. I just went around and I didn't, so, all right. So there's what I was going to ask. What you just described sounds to be like a ratio of market potential to numbers of units. So could I use ratio as opposed to range? I wouldn't say the market potential sounds, right? It's telling you if there's a market for this product versus occupancy is how well are you managing that project and turning over and releasing it. So it's the number of potential residents or lease or, less or, please, please, please. Lesses. Lesses in relationship to the number of units and whatever the price will use. Yeah, that's, what's it been trying to do because it's the vernacular that we use, it's different. Is there any other discussion or questions? Could I have a motion into 2023-21? How about the resolution of 2023-25? Zach, can we also give direction to bring back the average income policy? I don't have any minutes. Sure, we can do that first after you make the second one. Okay, so the motion has been to approve 2023-21 was made by Commissioner Michael Ferry, seconded by Commissioner Rodriguez.  So that carries unanimously. So we want to move to give direction to LHA staff to bring back the... I don't have any motion to move that we direct staff to bring back the income to the average income policy. Probably tax exemption policy to consider income. Is the property and tax exemption policy to consider income average income? Okay, so let's see. Yeah, I second. All right, ask that question. Is this for discussion by the Commission so that as soon as we could discuss it for now? We would, we could bring back red lines based on research that we continue to do. Oh, and then bring that back next month. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I just wanted to get a timeline because it sounds like you're going to have to be facing this pretty soon. Yeah, they were in front of us, so we don't have something to do by the 18th. Unless there's an outlier to become across, it doesn't make sense. It's a little late in the night. Okay, so the motion is to... All those in favor? Aye. All those in favor? Aye. And the passage unanimously. Very interesting. A lot of work. I'm computing a lot of work. So now we're at the interim executive director's re... Oh, our carol development distance. Oh, no. Whatever. Yeah. Whatever you want to do. Are we going to do the development updates first? Sure. So I'll start on those. All right. So our first big news, Zinnia is closed, which you may have heard that by now, but May 25th, we did close on Zinnia. Construction is in full force. We were out there this morning, and they are hauling a lot of old asphalt and doing a lot of grating right now. So that construction has anticipated to be 15 months, which means we would have lease up next fall, 12th 2024. And so we're still finalizing all of the paperwork associated with closing, but we're also moving into that construction phase. We're working to make sure residents are aware of what's going on, address safety issues on site, since we do have a whole building of people living right there next door. So we're moving into new phase here. Next we'll be preparing with all of the parties involved to plan our lease up process and nailing down our more specifics on what we're gonna do on our property management plan. So just to recap on the property management plan, that is the first time that LHA has entered into an agreement to be a third party property manager. So it's different than the rest of our LHA properties. And so that was its own agreement that we negotiated and we really took that one very seriously to make sure we could rely on that going forward and try to anticipate as much as we could that it's weighed down the road. So why is it different? Why is this project different than the other projects? It's different because the camp of member of the law is a party council. I think, again, everyone was a council member with a boy. If you remember when Fall River was being constructed and they had a gap leading to the build in the balance sheets of 750,000, the city actually stepped in with the Fortville Housing Fund and purchased the properties around these streets to allow Fall River to go under construction. And so the way that deal was created and it's created many, many issues is that was prior to the city sitting in the role of the housing authority. So the way that was structured was we were agnostic in essence of how it was going to be built. And in many ways, based on, I think, what we were seeing at the time felt in a different group, maybe more ready to do it based on all the challenges that the housing authority was dealing with. So that was this contract that sit over here. Based on how that was agreed upon with element, the way that the housing authority, now that we're doing it both, that we brought the housing authority into this was really operations in the facility, economies of scale in that world, but then also the special limited partnership. So that's a big reason why this one's different and more like that way because of the way that that original contract was established in element, long before we took over the housing authority. So I wanted to clarify that. Thank you. Next I wanted to give an update on how we're doing with the over. So we are giving up for that tax credits in the middle of August 1st application. We just got that market study Friday. That's what has been part of this discussion over the last few days. So it's very encouraging. The market study looks great. And then we also got word on all the other developments across the state. They're submitting for tax credits at the same time as over. At one was one. So those two will be in the same bucket being considered. And then generally it seems like there is more applications than average, but not by a long shot. So there's more competition than average, but they do think that there are certain aspects of this project that are not being hit with others. And so they're hopeful, but there's still about three and a half applications to every one possible award. So, and that's not too far off of normal. And that's why sometimes it is common to go back for a second time if you're not successful first. Other than that, we're in full concept design. We're getting some really great visuals of what the property might look like. And we're on July 18th in our next meeting here. We'll bring some of those visuals and we'll, there's gonna be several over items coming to that day to prepare for that tax credit application. Then if there's any questions on the over, I'll pause. So over on income averaging is going to look different than at this or looking at, will it look different than at with? Because remember, at with is one and two better units. Over is one, two, three, four better units. So the point that I made earlier, that variable starts shifting how you look at the four billion piece because there's a point then it's likely in that conversation that we're gonna have to weigh those two variables against each other in terms of three and four better units per percent of affordability because it just takes up more space. And that's where it starts to adjust to that actual standard. Just curiosity, does the child person out on the moment? It is in at the moment. We are seeking data funding. We've got meetings set up with people all over the state. It feels like the next couple of weeks to talk about gap funding opportunities. So it was out and then it went back in because Shannon is made aware of some of the foundations and others that are interested in it. This project for the reason that the foundations are interested in it is because it's unique in that there's not many housing projects that are manly and looking at this from the moment. So a lot of them will do early childhood. Some will do housing and have a limit on both. So that's intriguing to them. We also think that makes a tax credit application more in five. Now all that being said, August one is the deadline to apply. So we're gonna go through another iteration of because you have to have all of your capital stack in that application or maybe another iteration where for some reason the foundations can't move fast enough. We may have to pull it out but hold it because I think we can put it back in. We couldn't, well, we're sorting that out. But we could hold it as a block and then say that it's self-funded and then back-funds. But there's, he wants us to have to keep it. Okay, thanks. And then the last key update I wanted to give is on the potential sale of the building at 6.15. So this is the building that's now currently leased by the Center for People with Disabilities. We've been negotiating with them about the purchase of that property. They're very interested. And in July, again in July's meeting it's gonna be pretty busy. We're finalizing right now a draft purchase and sale agreement for your consideration. And then an MOU for services that they can provide the LHA as the part of our commission. So that is all working permanently right now. 6.15, it's right next to Village Place. So to your goal, you all said for us six properties and then within five years we're directly involved in three. You've heard about and the risk management and over, we've not connected to it for that move that can go again facilitating those units. So there's four right there. And then we're bringing the property issue with rural properties to be for affordable housing. That's coming into play. We're probably gonna hold a little bit on that because we think there's value in the person and transition and trying to figure out how that works. So I think we're pretty good progress on your goal of six and we'll give you the next two bills. And you're five years after that. We started, we set that goal in mid-2022. One year ago, July. Amazing what you've done. I asked the question that we were in mid-2022. Who looks to cut the thread about the loss? Lossy. See. I don't know about that. And that's not housing authority that's actually the city that owns it. And so the stormwater fund owns it now and then the affordable housing fund is gonna purchase it from the stormwater fund. So yeah, nobody's contacted us in any way. There are many things about the situation that are being funded out several aspects of the deal. Their goal of paying that bill is to slowly work stop the bill and then get in person. I heard that. Yeah, it's gonna be good. So the plan for while was outlined in a city council information item that came to you on June 6th on the council side. So basically the plan is to plan take at this point so that you can have a nice rolling set of developments and to make those calls about how it plays into person and then allow the time for that to settle into that. Yeah, one of the things that you will probably see both as the housing authority and potentially as the city council. So we're maxed stat wise for where we're looking at all the development work. And so we were evaluating how we can bring on some additional development positions. And what we've realized based on the money we're putting into the affordable housing fund and the fee in blue that's coming in. We actually have enough money to support that but the financial policy doesn't allow us to do that. And so why it's gonna toggle both sides of the equation is because the benefit is that the housing authority and the development staff to help get these projects moving in capacity, potentially one more maybe down the road. But it's connected to this other side. And so I've asked Molly to work with Theresa and budget in terms of what we can do, what finances are available so that we can potentially create that position now. And in connection with the affordable housing fund and then move it forward in the future because they're maxed. We can't take any more based on our workload. So we're evaluating now for people on pretty good. The timbers of your question about how we do it on the development and new reference to retreating to like carrying them on a cheap road to the county center before I go. And then I keep thinking, one of these days we're gonna return to the needs of, it takes back up where we are, what progress we make, what we learn, what needs to be refreshed, that there are some of the objectives, some of the outcomes that the dates have already passed. So in some ways it's out of date. But maybe I'm the only one who cares about this and I'm just gonna sit with Molly and get an update. I'm not suggesting a retreat. I'm not trying to add in the workload. But it would be helpful to me if somebody took that and you could turn it into a landscape document. So here's what we said we do. Here's what we've done. It's no longer applies, it does apply. Here's the way something can keep this current. Otherwise it's, we spent a day, came up with pretty good stuff and we've never looked at it. We looked at it all the time, I'm sure. We have not. We did go over an annual report in January showing the progress that we made in 2022 and what the focus were 2023. What, I'm tired of meeting you. I think it was actually the one where we discussed. Oh, well, I'm tired of meeting you. So I can provide that and then, I mean, already things are happening so quickly that that's six, we're six months off from that. It's our turn already. Have updates to provide. I think there was a, I have to watch the recording of the meeting. January meetings. What was going on? I only remember because I think we were coming back and we knew you were gonna be gone and we were presenting that, that particular, he was on the 30th. Did you choose that date? It was on the 30th. No, it was, it was, I think he, it was, it was, it was on the 30th. I was out of town for a week for the last week of January and it was, January 31st. I was told to do it. No, we didn't. What are you looking for? Are you using our, well, not me, you? It's, yeah, for our purpose. Send me a link, just send me a link. Yeah, I'll send you a link. So, Molly, you're very sensitive. You have a great update back here. Oh, it's a deal. So as you can see, we have raised occupancy up to 95% from the highs since I've been here. I think a lot of this is due to how we get to change our weightless procedures about a month and a half ago. We have Diana, our admin assistant managing all the weightless. She's calling us soon as we get a notice. We're trying to pre-lease these units. Going through the current statuses, I'm actually going to do an update more today and not even as of what I did in this report. So ask about those neighborhood. We now have five vacant. One's been down for meth and we're gonna probably have two more down for meth. And two others are pending rentals. Ask about those seniors that we had six vacant. We do have six vacant, but five of those are now rented as of this morning and just one not-beast. Fall River has just one unit down for meth, but that's already pre-rented and that should be back online on June 15th. So they will be 100% occupied by the end of the month. Person-in-Lodge, she has pending applications for both those units and her main focus is being ready for our REAC inspection with HUD tomorrow. So HUD will be out there doing the physical, going through all the cabinets, closets, everything and anything for probably about six to eight hours. The suites, we have just four vacants and three of those are down units. So one other, one rentable unit is already rented, it's an LHA unit. So once that's rented, all of our available units or built will be the highest occupancy this week has had in three plus years. Spring Creek has no vacancies at this moment and then the Briarwood and Village Base we currently are not leasing at, due to pending sales. Any questions on the occupancy? Just to curiosity, what is making the occupancy go up? Is we have more units available? Are people actually... We've changed our procedures in housing because we did have some stagnant wait lists that we were working on. So we did open up, all the wait lists are now open. We're not closing them. So that if one, for Aspen senior, for example, we call it 55 people, trying to get a rental on that one person's tub. So we're just looking at those wait lists open. So if somebody walks in and they're on the wait list and they have a voucher or they move next week, we're trying to get them processed in a unit. And it's not specific to a development. Like if they wanted to live in Spring Creek, for example, that's no vacancies there. So will you allow them to go somewhere else? They can apply for whatever properties they want. So we have a wait list for each property currently. So, because each property has different AMIs, different features, different layouts. So some don't want to be on the west side. Well, some want to east side, some want, you know. So they need to choose where they're at. We have, I'd say probably half of our wait lists are on every wait list applicants. Okay. Trying to get the first available. I did know. So then you get the first available. So property updates, two, two, that's me. I'm very short this month. We still moving from the silver to my events, but Susan Spaulding and the media agency have been out doing our pocket conversations and it's been great, amazing resident feedback after these meetings. Just they're learning a lot. We're doing fair housing with the residents, but we're letting Susan teach it and she's kind of going through reasonable complications at the same time or what property management has to deal with, why do we do what we do? Why do we say what we have to do with, deal with and how we deal with it? And she gives the laws and the situations going on going back to marketing that's a key and civil rights on some of these fair housing things. So it's making the residents understand where management comes from when we say, no, we can't do that. Or no, we have to treat you like we treat your neighbor. And it's been kind of eye opening for the residents and we've gotten a lot of great feedback from those. And those are continuing this week at two more properties. Everything else I think I've basically gone over with. The only biggest thing happening at a property is Village Place. They're very upset that we took away their assigned parking. They got a one year morning, but this is all leading up to recidivation because we need to have spots available, move people around, spots for construction dumpsters here and there, surveying, you name it, but we just wanted to have flexible parking spaces and make it consistent with the rest of the property. Well, and if you all remember, that was the property where previously probably home and home support at the time was pretty ups, the property manager was assigning parking spots, but also assigning ADA parking spots, which you're not allowed to be kind of ADA around. And so, you know, we had a bit of an upheaval when we started it, we said, okay, turn it over, we're gonna give you a year, but we're still gonna do it. We're now transitioning into a getting ready for the recidivation. And probably some of those conversations with Susan Spaulding has helped you let them understand the reasoning behind it. It actually was very beneficial at that property because she went through a reasonable accommodation and what qualifies for a reasonable accommodation where we can grant residents who need a closer parking spot and assigned parking spot, it just can't be an ADA. So we have seen a few reasonable accommodations and we're treating them just like we do all the other properties that submit the same request. Good, we're done with property updates. Oh, yeah. And safety updates. So, all right, so Calls for Service have actually taken a dip, which is, that's real good, I hope. Everybody's not gonna have to wait for this. Seems like a lot of our problem, you know, I want to say folks, not necessarily problems, but a lot of them have resolved themselves, so that is good. We will, now I know Molly fills us in last time when I was absent last month, but the ROI with MHP. So that document is completed, it's in MHP's hands and it actually had started from Andy Feister, the Sergeant of our Corps Unit. So I've been working with him and have that document listing several different entities for folks to sign off of for release of information from both hospitals to the school district, to public safety to LHA, and we did this for many reasons, but I'll give you one example. So we have a person that's having some significant issues, Calls for Service are crazy. Property management has some information, public safety has some information. MHP has a lot more information and really just us asking the question, do you know if this person's on their meds? We get the him and ha, so basically this document is still optional and MHP will present it to each tenant and they'll be explained and at the end of the day it's to create a better situation for those people that get into this crisis. So that's great, that will be coming, it's done, it just needs to be presented to basically the LHA staff. It's pretty simple document. So, can I ask a question here? This is a paper document? Correct. Do you share information through a database so that you would know exactly where this person is if you're on medication? So, due to HIPAA that cannot be shared so MHP would take that ROI and it would be verbal, yes or no, this person in. And there are some specificities to the document meaning that if this person doesn't want to discuss, maybe they don't want to discuss their medications. They're given the choice, but they're also talking, it's spoken to them really through MHP how valuable it is to discuss that. So, again, all options are on the table but at least it's on the table for them and we don't struggle so much. Good. And lastly, I know Harold mentioned the P-Alert meth detector, we've received that. We've installed it in Village Place the last 24 hours, got some readings there. Really, we're trying to figure out some of the few inconsistencies with it but now it's in Harold's office on a glass shelf and we're hoping it basically levels out to some normalcy so we have basically a place to start. And so just a recap, we'll put that in a unit that we know is positive and vacant. And so we're testing, because we have our recycle regular math test process and then we have this vacant in Harold's office. So it's not in an occupied unit. No, okay. And if we placed, the decision was made to place it anywhere where we already knew the numbers. So still working through the data on that to see if it registered the same number as you came home. Correct. And it did not. Right, good. That's to be determined. I'm still trying to determine where I'm going to call on. Did I? Well, you're so focused. So we've got the feed through the software system. So we've been looking at it. And so we saw it do what it was supposed to do. It bought one of the things, we really need 24 hours based on talking to them to see what we've got because we're still rescued that may interfere. And so they wanted a longer period of time. So it did what we thought it was going to do originally. And then it just did something that I'm sitting there going, I don't know what to do. So, you know, somebody's going on the mountain, so I didn't know it. Oh, yeah. But so we're going to be watching this over the next 24 hours and probably move it around the building. So we can just kind of get a sense of what baseline is. Make sure that everybody's clean. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. And there's a reason it's holiday. Oh, OK, thank you. That is, that's anyone has any questions? Do you have any questions to say? I want to live in with all these concrete factors. I want to live in with all these concrete factors. So can we share comments? Not this one. Not this one. Not this one. Just maybe a question about the question about the forum and meds and information being shared in HIPAA and all the issues around HIPAA. The Dix and Dix project was an attempt to address that very issue. Yes, so Christina and Albert were at the next base and what we want to do is actually beta test that communication system with the housing authority. Again, the PE students there are talking about it in the ROI and there will be a different version of that. So, Christina and Albert are having this conversation. But it's still active. And we just got to go, is it ready to roll so we can start trying it out because that can actually be a really good communication tool because it can fire wallets. So if it's a medical issue and they allow, let's say, paramedics to have it, we can fire wallet off of police or they love police and paramedics but not us. So they're still moving on that and then they were talking about it yesterday. And so hopefully soon we can do beta test that. That's what we're pushing for. Anyone else? Anyone else? Anyone else? So move.


Another day, another fantastic run here in Newlands Forest. Well, the day started off pretty good. I had to go locally to apply for my British travel visa here in Cape Town. I'm not sure if one is allowed to talk about these things, if not let me know. Just to confirm that that was a fantastically run operation there. Everyone knew what they were doing. I did pay the extra amount just to go to the premium lounge and have someone personally look at all my documents in the application and I must really compliment the local service here. Applying for a British visa was really probably the best experience I've had applying for a visa. So if you have to go for a British tourist visa here in Cape Town, no problems whatsoever. For the educational videos, watch out for video on abstract algebra. I look at the kernel of a group and that's a very special subgroup. It's a normal subgroup as well that allows us to create a very special set of cosets and from there we are going to look at the first theorem of isomorphisms. See you again later.


Hello everybody, E here. Welcome back to another book review. Today I do not have a physical book to hold, so you'll be getting an image right there. And this is Bear Skins by James A. McLaughlin. And that's gonna go away. It took me forever to read this book, not because the book is bad. The book was actually really, really good, and that's the only reason that I finished it at all is because it was so exceptional. I hate, hate, loathe. There's not a strong enough word for how I feel about ebooks. The actual reading of ebooks. I can't stand it. It bothers me. I feel encumbered carrying around a tablet or a phone or whatever. It just doesn't feel the same way. I don't care how many page flip technology or whatever they put in ebooks. It just never feels like a book. It doesn't have the same, there's no audio sensation of hearing the page turn or the physicality of being able to bend it a little bit, the giveability. It doesn't have the same smell even.  Most book readers, most readers do love the smell of books. I just don't like, I don't like the format. So with that being said, the only reason I finished it in that format is because the book was so good. I got the book. It was on, I kept on hearing it all over Twitter and Goodreads. Everybody's talking about, you know, it's a fine example of Hick Lit and that's country fiction, kind of the Southern vernacular fiction Hick, you know, as a country person, a Hick literature, Hick Lit. I kept seeing that pop up in that and I am a fan of the genre when it's done right too many times. They fall back on the ease of the grammar because you can screw things up with that grammar and be all right in that type of setting because, you know, those, the country people talk with a broken vernacular, you know, as it is. But with this one, it was so much more, it did not simplify the country living ideal.   It didn't take any sides and I appreciated that. That can be a problem with the, with the genre also because, you know, kind of like the farming and outdoorsy kind of thing. For some odd reason has this stigma probably because most of them are, but it's a far right kind of extremism. But that didn't happen with this book. The writing was exceptional. I love the fact that the writer had an appreciation for the area he was in and you could feel that you could read the love. You could read into the text and find his love for the area that he was discussing. One of my favorite parts of the book is the very last scene of the book. The very last paragraph of the book is just beautiful. The way he ends it, the way he, the very last image he leaves in the reader's mind is amazing. Now, going into, if you're worried about spoilers, this is a whole new thing here. But I was talking to my friendly Aertes about this and he wanted to, he wanted me to go into spoiler territory maybe at the end of my videos, talk about things that I liked and didn't like in depth. So if you were, if you've already read the book or you do not care about spoilers, continue on. But if you do care about being spoiled, then please go ahead and click away. I'll miss y'all. I really will. Anywho, so spoiler territory. There's a scene in here in chapter 48, I believe it is. I'm pretty sure because I noticed it around chapter 15. There's two chapters back. So chapter 48, there's a scene. The very last paragraph of chapter 48 is brilliant and I don't use that word lightly. The way he built up the tension of the entire scene leading up to that final paragraph of chapter 48 was amazing. I have not felt that much tension and suspense in a book since I want to say The Silence of the Lands when I read that right around when the movie came out because I read the book going into the movie. And I remember, I hope I'm remembering that correctly. It might be Mandela effect. I may not have been old enough, but I remember reading the book just before watching the movie whether or not that was in theaters or not. I don't know. But The Silence of the Lands, there was a scene in a basement toward the end of the book that was great. The only book I've seen come close to that scene is this one. It's another one where darkness plays a key role. There's night vision involved. And I don't know if it was a throwback to The Silence of the Lands or not. But instead of being confined to this basement setting, they're out in the middle of the woods. And there's a cabin anyways. But this scene is really terrific. And it's when the main character Rice kills the Mexican hitman who's come to take him out. I really appreciated that scene for everything that happened. It didn't feel like there was any excess verbiage. There was nothing superfluous in that scene. It felt like everything was needed. While in earlier chapters, there was a lot of maybe flowery prose, flowery writing, not modeling, but a little too much. Maybe, for me, it was perfect. But for the average reader, Sarah Frost, if you're watching this, it's probably gonna be a little too much for you. He goes into very eloquent detail. And I know you don't like a whole lot of that in your books. You just want them to get to the point. And of course, there's nothing wrong with that. But I got a wasp in here. Anywho, you stay over there, fella. But the attention to detail was a big plus for me because you don't normally get that in these types of books. You get a very sparse prose. And it's not the kind of simplistic prose where there's a lot under the surface either. It's just very simplistic.  But I really enjoyed everything this book did. I especially liked the floating away scene at the end. And if this is gonna be a series, I'm telling you, I am all for it. He set up a bunch of stuff here at the end with the dog and the connections and whatnot. I am there for this series. And I usually don't say that. Usually when authors set up a series, I'm like, oh, damn it, not another series. But this one might set up another one. I am there for it. As long as the writing is just as good, as long as the stories don't get played out and the setting doesn't get played out, I'm there for it. But have you read Bear Skins by James A. McLaughlin? If you have, let me know if you liked it or didn't like it down there in the doobly-doo. Please don't say it shocked or it was amazing. Let's talk about why it was great. Let's talk about why you think it was bad. Let's have a discussion down there in the doobly-doo. But until next time, I have been E, you have been U. This has been another book review. I'll talk to you guys later. Bye-bye!