Bryson DeChambeau trying to defend his championship this week at the Rocket Mortgage Classic and he is the heavy favorite for betting for this weekend at Detroit Golf Club. We're going to break things down from a DFS perspective, let you know our thoughts on Bryson, whether he can repeat what we're doing from a roster construction perspective and our favorite golfers in each salary tier for this week. Welcome on into the heat check fantasy podcast powered by Number Fire. That's right here on the Fanduo Podcast Network and NumberFire.com. My name is Jim Sonnis. I am a senior writer and analyst for NumberFire.com. Joined here as always by Brandon Gedula. He is the managing editor for NumberFire.com. Brandon, have you physically recovered from watching the playoff on Sunday? Not quite. And I actually, you know, I thought you were going to ask me about all the golf I played this weekend because I played three rounds between Thursday and Sunday. So almost like a pro, but I got to skip Saturday, but I was I was thrashed by the end of it. So I don't know how these guys do this like week in week out.  By Sunday evening, I was just done with golf. It's not even like the the walking. It's like the the mental engagement. Like I was I was walking this morning and I the idea of like not having to think for my job for like a day or two. Like it made me very happy.  And I don't do a very high leverage job.  I can't imagine being involved in eight round or eight hole playoff, playing the same holes over and over and over again, trying to win some cash and just being like, okay, I'm bouncing back next week, like Kramer Hickok is in the field this week. So that's just exhausting to me. Again, as someone who has a very low leverage job, having to go through that and then just bounce back like, yeah, Thursday, let's do it again. Why not? Yeah, and all the things that they think about that I wish I could think about with like wind and how the how the lies really affecting you. I mean, I try to not matter for my golf shots.  Yeah, but I don't know. For me, like I try to hit cups as long as I'm not holding people up. But you know, standing over like a four footer, which I think a lot of people just pick up and say it's good. Like that's you do that like 54 holes in four days. I was like, I'm over this by the end of Sunday. So even more credit to the pros. A lot of squats to get down. Check it out.  You know, why not?  We're going to have some fun this week getting you set for the rocket mortgage classic. That is again, is that Detroit golf club. We're going to break that down in just one second. But first, as always, a reminder that it is not just the heat check for PGA nowadays here on the FanDuel family of networks. I don't know the right way to phrase this. 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Let's get in to the rocket mortgage classic for this week. Again, it's at Detroit Golf Club, the North Course. It is 7370 yards and a par 72. There are 156 golfers in the field. The traditional cut rules apply. It is just the third time they have played this course on the PGA Tour. The winners of those two years have been 23 and 25 under respectively. So a lot of birdies. Definitely going to be in play here for this week. Brandon, what can we glean from looking at the data from those first two events? Kind of not a whole lot in terms of, I mean, we can learn something. What we can really learn is that not a single stat really jumps out. And I think that's kind of key, but probably the overall takeaway. And this is never fun to hear, but the real angle is birdies. And whenever birdies come into play and scores, you know, you got to flirt with 20 under, 25 under perhaps to win. I know that you mentioned the two winning scores being 23, 25 under, but the runner-ups were 19 and 20 under as well.  So whenever you have an easy course, volatility gets ramped up just because more guys can make birdies than can like kind of avoid bogies on difficult holes. We talk about it, you know, every time we get a week like this.  And I think that whenever we have something like that, you can just sort of boil down all the stats to how do you make a birdie? And it's with good ball striking. So driver, irons, and then a really good putter, wedges aren't really going to come into play so much. And if they do, you're probably not scoring well enough to be completely relevant over four rounds. That's not to say that you don't even need to bring your wedges or we should actively be targeting golfers who are bad around the green. It's just more that's not really what's going to get you to a 20 underscore unless you're holding out numerous times from green side. So you could look at birdie conversion, possibly opportunities gained, which is a good fantasy national stat, which is basically birdie opportunities. But I'm just really not seeing a whole lot that's bankable in terms of distance versus accuracy. So for me, it's just going to come down to elite putting, which is not easy to predict. But we also know that putting is not completely random. Even if sometimes it feels like it is, it's not better baseline putters have a higher chance of having good putting performances. So for me, the key stats are just stroke scheme approach, stroke scheme putting on Ben and Poa greens. That's what we get this week. Stroke scheme off the tee and then birdie or better rate. Yeah, I have the same conclusion with regards to off the tee play because you look at data golf numbers and it shows that a larger percentage of the scoring is explained by accuracy than usual. But then you look at Bryson D. Shambo and Matthew Wolfe being the top two guys last year, like, okay, I'm not going to make accuracy be a key staff for me. So I went off the tee as well. So I think that what I would say the takeaway for me is from driving is that you don't need to be a bomber to compete. And that kind of goes back to what you were talking about where there is a larger pool of golfers who can realistically go low here. And that's impactful both in terms of like volatility and roster construction. So you may want to go more balanced, but also it means like web Simpson is more in play than usual to me, stuff like that guys who may not be super long off the tee, but are good off the tee and can get birdies despite their lack of length. I think that's kind of the big takeaway from my perspective. Are you kind of getting a similar vibe in that regard? Yeah, so it's kind of a week where some like extra golfers are kind of in the mix, specifically, you know, the shorter hitters who can make birdies, which is not like the hugest overlap, but those guys are going to be in place like someone like web sims and super appealing to me, because he makes a lot of birdies, despite not being long. But, you know, I think I just have an added emphasis in my spreadsheet on putting because that's how you can you can hit as many greens and regulations as the next guy, but I should probably say like gain many strokes with approach. But either way, you know, you can have as many birdie chances, but it comes down to putting conversion and data golf actually has a tool that shows what drives the variation and scoring for Detroit over two years, it's been almost 44% of the scoring. So explained by putting is how these guys separate. So basically what you think of is, you know, put everyone on the green in the same spot. It's more about who makes those putts, which is kind of obvious. It's already about 36% on average, but it's even ramped up because the course is so easy. So guys can get into birdie chance. It's just who makes the putts. That's why putting is like elevated for me. So yeah, I mean, just you got to make birdies. And if you if you struggle to make birdies on other courses, I'm not really that interested in you for this week. So we're going to emphasize putting, which naturally means we'll talk about Hideki Matsuyama and past history in just one second. But first basketball fans, the NBA conference finals are in full swing and Fandal is offering a special new user bonus place a bet on any single team's money line and you will receive exclusive 30 to one odds for that wager. All you have to do is head over to Fandal Sportsbook, create an account and take advantage of this amazing NBA playoff odds boost. 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And he's put up really good ball striking stats in both of those starts, which is exactly what you'd expect from Hideki Matsuyama. Just, you know, good driver play, but even better approach play for him. And that's really kind of what we need to see from him to like the course form because the current form is strong. After winning the Masters, he was 39th to the Byron Nelson, 23rd at the PGA Championship, 62nd at the Memorial, 26th at the US Open. If you look at the stats, he is the best T-degree in golfer in my database, which adjusts for recency and also field strength. So pretty nice there. 83rd percentile in birdie or better rate gained as well, which is really what it comes down to for, you know, Detroit. But even though Hideki's not a great putter, he still makes birdies. And so it's a little bit tricky because I am emphasizing birdies and I'm emphasizing putting. So he fits one of those. But one thing to keep in mind is that Hideki is a lot worse on Bermuda greens with his putter. He's actually slightly positive on Poa. He's only barely negative on bent grass. So we get that combination this week. So I think Hideki makes a lot of sense. Any thoughts on Hideki for you? I mean, he's, he's great. And I think he makes a lot of sense. The problem is I have other guys above him in that salary tier. And like I have to be selective at some point. Like I prefer Bryson, we'll talk about in two seconds. I prefer Patrick Reed over Hideki.  I like him more though. I like Webb over both those guys. So to me, if I'm ranking, go ahead. I actually have Patrick Reed as, and this will be a little bit strange, but I do, I do something where I combine their long term adjusted strokes gained data. And then I wait their recent stats and just come up with like a who's, who's in the best long term form and who kind of has the best stats and Patrick Reed's number one, surprisingly for this week.  Okay. Good to know. I would say if I'm ranking those top four guys, so Bryson, Reed, Hideki, and Webb, I feel like Hideki's probably fourth, which means through no fault of his own, because Hideki's great. I will probably not wind up using him for this week. Am I under rating him? Or do you think that that is appropriate given how good those other three guys are? I think it's appropriate. And you can't play all of them unless what you do. And this is, you know, not really what you're asking me. But I think ultimately how I'm going to land with lineup construction is pick like three to four of the studs and then rotate in all the values because we'll see value plays perform really well at a course like this. But who they are is going to be harder to predict. And yes, that's not to say that the studs will be, you know, I can't miss options, but I'm trying to narrow down the studs for this week so that I can build around a pool of value plays. And I think just kind of by default, Hideki's not going to quite make that. So I think I'd probably rank him fourth out of the top four as well. Okay. Yeah. So again, it's not like Hideki, like we're not in on him. It's more so those guys are really good. And it's not like the deepest field, but like those four guys, specific I think are tremendous. Yeah. And then right behind them and Salatoris, Jason Kochrack, Neiman. I like Neiman a lot this week. Matthew Wolf. And then you get Bryson Day. Like that's not as appealing. No, it's not. So let's talk about Bryson and why we have him above Hideki. It's not just because he won last year, but hey, it doesn't hurt. He is a big favorite this week. Makes sense given the overall standing, but it's also in part due to what he did last year. That's why he's a favorite. Bryson actually lost strokes in approach. He lost 0.5 across four rounds, but he gained a 6.7 off the tee, 7.8 on the greens to get the win there. And those parts aren't super flukey. The degree of them may be, you don't expect 7.8 strokes putting, but he ranks first in strokes. He lost the tee, eighth in bank graphs plus POA putting over the past 100 rounds. Bryson enters with five straight finishes outside the top 15. That's even with the approach play potentially taking back up just been largely bit by around the green play, which is abnormal for Bryson. So the win last year was fueled by putting that's very true. And his form is necessarily lights out, but I still feel like he's the best guy in this field. And I'm not sure the salary discrepancy is necessarily big enough for me to say I can just skip over Bryson. I think the best argument for not using him is what you've talked about where there's more volatility in a field where more guys can make birdies. But straight up, I feel like Bryson is deserving of this top spot. What are your thoughts on him and what are your thoughts on him from a tournament perspective for this week? So it's really kind of conflicting me because yes, Bryson is based on my database, the best golfer over the past year, but it's not very substantial. Patrick Reed, Web Simpsons are pretty close behind. And in my simulations, I know the sports book, the sports book odds at Fandle are heavy on Bryson at 7 to 1 with Reed at 14, Hideki Web at 16. But that would kind of imply that he's twice as likely to win than the next guy, but my win simulations don't really have it that way. It's a lot closer for Reed and Web Simpson. So I have Bryson around 7% Reed at 6% Web at 5.4. So yeah, Bryson is that guy, but it's not so egregiously ahead of everyone else. I still think he's the best process-based play that we have because we know the drivers there and stroking it off the tee is the most predictive of the four. You mentioned the putting being amazing here for his win, but it's not abnormal for him to gain five plus strokes putting. We see it because he's a great putter. So I'm not really going to talk anyone out of playing Bryson in tournaments, especially because we will have so many ways to differentiate this week. I think with even some of the value plays, we can just leave salary on the table. So yeah, Bryson is going to be chalky, but with one or two sub 10% players, you can really build a different lineup anyway. That's not to say I'm playing Bryson in every tournament lineup, but I'm actually more okay with it this week than it would be otherwise just because of where he stands and because the field drops off after that top 7. So I don't feel quite as bad. And we often talk about avoiding Bryson due to his imperfections, whether it be with his approach play, the around the green play is an imperfection as well. But I think those imperfections are less of an issue this week than usual because he's not competing with every top study. He's competing with some good golfers for sure, really good golfers, but it's not as deep of a field as usual, which means his flaws are less of an issue than they would be otherwise. Yeah. So I have Bryson about 35% likely to top 10. So that's pretty solid. I would assume he's going to have a top 20, top 15 finish. I'm not necessarily in love with him to win outright. So I think that there's still a case to be made for just locking in Bryson for cash games for sure, but again, not avoiding him in tournaments. Well, actually, I don't know. For cash games, I might take the savings of the web, honestly, because he is $500 less than Bryson and pretty volatile field. I can avoid some rougher golfers in the bottom end. So this may be backwards, but I actually think I am more pro not using Bryson in cash than in tournaments. Is that strange? It is because I think that there's not a whole lot of distinction between the low end guys and there are actually multiple golfers in the $7,000 range I'd be okay with.  I am undecided. So we'll talk about that throughout the podcast for today. But for tournaments, I agree, Bryson, very, very good option despite the baked-in popularity. Let's talk about Seth Straca. Straca is a lower salary guy for this week. And Straca has been here both years thus far, both finishes inside the top 15. What do you see with Seth Straca here at $8,900? Yeah. So we're looking at guys who have done well here, effectively played, either played both years or won like Bryson, but eighth and 11th, which is really strong for any golfer at any salary. And at $8,900, that's really promising. He also gained strokes in all four areas in each of those stats. So it's been like a balanced debut at the course, which is hard to find overall. And Straca, someone who in the past, at least I've talked about a lot, haven't really been there for a while because the Irons are usually why I've liked him, but they're not particularly good until they showed up last week and he finished 10th at the Travellers. We could find that Straca is a little bit chalkier than you would expect just because he's one of the few guys with multiple top 15s here and really just one of the few guys who's played here twice and has something to show for it. So coming off that 10th place with good iron play, I think that we got to make sure that we're not just locking in Straca and saying he's a sure thing because he's really not. He is a good birdie maker, 84th percent out there over the past 100 rounds according to Fantasy National, but I see enough with Straca to like him, but he's just not necessarily a slam dunk place. So did he jump out to you at all? I get kind of the same perception. Another reason why I'd be okay if he does track to be popular like you alluded to. Another reason I'd be okay not being there is that they're actually, I do like some golfers in the mid-8000 range. I'm not sure if I'll go 7000, which you are on board with, but Cameron Davis and Doug Gimm are my two favorite value plays and they're 87 and 85. I like them more than Straca straight up and if he's gonna be popular that makes it even easier. So I think that Straca is a consideration, but if he's gonna be popular I'm fine of avoiding him. Yeah, I mean, for me, Cam Davis, Doug Gimm, Tom Hoagie, James Hahn, like I can get the Bryson a lot easier. So that's where it's kind of that range that I've been talking about with regards to Bryson versus Webb for our top golfer. So. Well, again, just for Cash Games, Return of its Bryson is the top guy. So to be clear on that for Cash Games, I might be okay taking the savings, but we'll see as we go through things for today. Let's talk with Doc Redmond, similar to Straca. He has been here both years thus far and he's kind of the anti Bryson in that time. He's doing everything except for driving the ball well. He has been here eight total rounds. Redmond has, he has gained the average of 0.1 strokes off the tee per round that is compared to 0.7 on approach and 1.0 putting. And Redmond turned that into finishes a second and 21st. What's best about the runner up is that it was before Redmond had like that massive, massive heater after the COVID layoff last year. So basically, his form back then was not as good as it was for last year's events.  The problem is, Redmond is not as hot now as he was coming off the COVID break. He's lacked consistency recently. In fact, he's actually been actively bad off the tee. Even when he finished runner up in Palmetto, he lost 0.1 off the tee. So I think the form is kind of scary here with Redmond at 10-1. If he were 9,000, I wouldn't care, but he's not. 10-1 is kind of a high number for a guy who is a little bit erratic, I guess at times right now. What do you feel with Doc Redmond at $10,100? Yeah. So he's a perfect example of just how this field kind of drops off because at 10,000 in most fields, we're still looking at guys we feel mostly comfortable with. It's not like, that's not what we get every week, but there are weeks where it's like this and we start to really get those red flags a little bit earlier. And honestly, you know, I try to write up five guys in each sort of general tier for my primer on Number Fire. And Redmond made the cut as just someone else like an other to consider. So I'm not necessarily in love with him, but relative to the salary, I do think he stands out. That doesn't necessarily make him a great play specifically because, you know, he has been losing strokes off the tee so frequently. The one case really to be made for Redmond is that at his peak, we know what he can do. And that's basically just hit the irons really well and put pretty well. And the around the green play, which is usually a concern is less of a concern this week. So, you know, that's kind of that. But like the 10, if he was like 96 even, it'd be a little bit different. Right. He's 200 less than Charlie Hoffman. I have fewer concerns than Charlie Hoffman than Doc Redmond right now. Much rather go Hoffman. That could be me. I think that Cameron Tringale is probably someone I'd rank a decent amount above Redmond as well. He's around that range. That's an extra 600. Yeah. Yeah, it's 600, but like I could just avoid the 10k range, like the low 10, outside of Hoffman. So I think that Tringale is worth that $600 difference. I think that Hoffman is worth the $200 difference, which means that if I'm in this range, I'm just going to reconfigure to get up to them, as opposed to settling for Redmond. I think that's why. Yeah. I'm going to update my article live on the show and go with Hoffman over Redmond. Oh, man. Charlie Hoffman, the chip gains the PGA tour. We're working now. Okay. Live updates on the air. Is that a saying? No, he kind of looks like him though, right? All right, man. So whenever I come to you with lookalikes, you are very, very particular about details. I don't really see it much at all. I think that one's a stretch. No, I think it's accurate. Okay. Just let it marinate a bit and we'll get back to me. I think you'll see it eventually. Let's talk about current form and golfers who are golfing well right now, starting off with the guy we talked about before. We kind of like, which feels weird, but it's Patrick Reed at 11-8. Reed is a good golfer. Brandon, good golfers are sometimes good at golf. And sometimes that can be good for DFS. So what do you see of Patrick Reed here recently at 11-8? Yeah, I didn't realize we'd have gotten so far into the top four yet. But I think we didn't talk about Reed enough specifically. Yeah, I think Reed's really interesting because he's going to be someone you can almost always pivot to. And for what it's worth, because I already pulled this up, the fancier sports tags. Surprisingly, three of the top four are the golfers we discussed in course history. So Doc Redmond's number one with most tags, Bryson. Then it's Joachim Neiman tied with Sepp Straka. So like any ways to differentiate I think are viable, especially when they're not dumb. And it's definitely not dumb to consider some lineups where you don't play Bryson and you play Patrick Reed, even though it's a course where you need a lot of birdies. Because Reed's actually, surprisingly, 98th percentile in birdies made or birdier better rate gained over the past 100 rounds. He's like 15th in birdier better rate for the PGA tour season alone. So doesn't really feel that way. But he can make birdies because he's a really good putter. And over the past 20 rounds, according to DataGolf's true strokes game metric, Reed's at a 1.95 per round, which is adjusted for field strength. Next up is a decky at 1.49. So basically, a half stroke better, more or less than anyone else over the past 20 rounds. The finishes recently include a 17th at the PGA championship, missed the cut at the Charles Schwab, fifth at Memorial, 19th at US Open, 25th at the Travelers. The Irons are really coming alive, which is really surprising to see with Reed. So it might be a little cute. It's too cute for me in cash games to pivot from Bryson, but I really mean it that we have other ways to go this week at the top. So Reed's one of them for me. And I think that the best contest type for Patrick Reed would be single entry. Because when you're thinking about like, okay, single entry mindset, you're thinking about, okay, I can't miss out on Bryson, or I'll pivot off Bryson, I'll go Weber-Hideki. Patrick Reed will go overlooked in that format. And like, if people like to use golf as they like, I'm not sure if there are double digit people on the planet who would rank Patrick Reed above Hideki Matsuyama from a likability perspective. So he's going to go overlooked. And I think that for single entry specifically, Patrick Reed is a tremendous option for this week. Yeah, that's a really good point. Single entry is such a great, it's my favorite way to play DFS, single entry tournaments. But yeah, I just want to make sure that we're not kind of glossing over Reed in terms of, oh yeah, Reed's just good, but like, Reed's been really, really good lately. Yeah. I think the birdie making point, he said 98th percentile, like that's pertinent because like, he has thoughts. Right, exactly. You don't think that, but he, you know, he does that. He's a great bank grass and poet putter. If we're emphasizing that more this week, he grades out well there. So yeah, I think that Patrick Reed is great. I think that I'm kind of leaning towards what you were saying, where you pick three of the studs and make them your core and then differentiate elsewhere for this week. So if I had a rank for tournaments, it's Bryson, Webb, Reed, but I want to make sure I'm heavy enough on that tier in general to still make myself the overweight of Patrick Reed, despite having him rank third of that group. I think that's where I'm at right now with these guys. Yeah, Neiman's close for me, but that's probably going to be those four that I just kind of lock into. Yep. I think that's the way I'd want to play things for this week. Let's talk about Kramer Hickok. We discussed him earlier with the playoff, but he's in the field this week again, as of right now, at least, after that long playoff on Sunday, he's $8700. So getting some buzz, it's worth digging into Hickok a bit deeper. He was in the playoff despite losing strokes and approach. He gained 4.3 off the tee, 7.5 on the green last week. And the thought to say that Hickok is a bad approach player, he gained 1.7 at the Charles Schwab last month and finished 14th there. Overall though, Hickok ranks 88th in approach, 43rd off the tee. He is 23rd and birdies are better gained despite a thing of bad putter. So he can make birdies, which is important. So I don't think that Hickok is a bad play. He does some things well as he showed. He can go low and he can make pars when necessary as well. But I haven't seen enough with Hickok to think that he's on some sudden upswing which to buy into. So to me, I think that again, if we're talking about golfers in this tier, give me Cam Davis, give me Doug Gimm over him. But Brandon, what are your thoughts on Kramer Hickok after that impressive showing last week? Over under, 3rd percentile, combined, bent grass and poa putting for Hickok over the past 100 rounds. I'm guessing it's probably going to be right there. The second percentile. He's not particularly good. It's not great, Bob. He's better on Bermuda for sure. The irons, while he's not abysmal, he's 38th percentile over the past calendar year adjusted for field strength and recency. So I'm going to just not chase that and hope that other people have interest. Yeah. I think that that's where I'm at too. And again, it comes down to the fact that I have other options. I do want to differentiate more in the value plays than with the studs just because that's the way that I think that we should play things this week, given the way the studs break out. But even with the differentiation piece being in play, I do still think that Hickok will not be a piece I used to differentiate. He's not going to be there for me. There are too many other good plays right around that range. So let's move down to the low 8000 range. Talk about your second current form golfer, ol' Hank. Hank Libiota back on the podcast here, $8,200. We have not talked about ol' Hank in a hot second, Brandon. How's he doing right now? Yeah. I used to talk about him a little more. Not so much lately, but there are reasons to do so now at 8,200. So he's kind of one of my guys. But past five stars include a 13th, 51st, 17th, 31st, and 5th, the 5th coming last week of the Travelers. The putter has been hot, but over the past 20 rounds, he ranks 18th in both data golf's true stroke scan, tea to green, and putting. So it's not just the putter. It's also the tea to green play. That's what you want to look at, not just the finishes, but how's he doing it? It's with tea to green and putting. So that's perfect for 8,200. He's missed the cut both years here, but has gained 2.1 from approach in each. So it's a little more forgivable there, especially with two years of data. Don't just look at who's missed cuts and say that they're not a good fit for the course. Could be putting, could be missing the cut on the number. But is he someone you think you might? Because it sounds like we're both having a value core as Libio to someone you sprinkle in. Yeah, why not? I think that it's worth looking at. You were talking about the finishes, but I mean, the approach play is really interesting. You talked about the approach play, what he's had at this event. But if we look at his recent events, he gained one of the Travelers, lost 3.2 at the Palmetto, but 4.1 at the Byron Nelson, 6.2 at the Wells Fargo, 4.1 at the Honda where he missed the cut. But I think what that shows is he can have pop weeks. And we talk about pop weeks a lot in terms of having upside. I think that Libio has that. So yeah, why not? I mean, he finished fifth last week. Sure. I think that there are plenty of reasons to be interested here and using him as a differentiation piece. And we were talking before about Bryson versus Webb. The difference between Cam Davis and Hank Libiotta is $500. I don't think that's an outrageous swap to make doing Bryson and Libiotta over Davis and Webb. I feel better about Davis and Webb. Is that like a law firm or something? I don't know. Anyway. But I feel better about that combo for Floor. No, Gardner Webb. Gardner Webb. Yeah, yeah. He just has a quarterback. Davis Webb. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. That sounds back up. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I think that Hank is worth consideration as one of those rotation pieces. I'm on board. Yeah. I mean, I would not quite put it in that 2v2 conversation, but it's more of a, like if I get Libiotta and Sebastian Munoz or something to get back up to whatever else that would be, it'd be more like a 3 versus 3 than a 2v2. Sure. But the point remains, like I think that there are a lot of value plays in the conversation this week. Usually we don't talk about a lot of value plays, which I always feel bad about, but I don't think they're good process plays. This week it's a lot different. Yeah, I agree. I think that Libiotta deserves to be in that conversation. Let's talk about Brendan Todd. We talked about Libiotta with his good approach play, Brendan Todd. Not there. Statistically, it ain't great. Todd ranks outside the top 100 in both off the tee and approach play. 89th and birdies are better gained, but his putting is so good that it's kind of working. Todd does have two missed cuts the past couple of months, but they both came in majors. Between then, he had an eighth at the Charles Schwab. Todd ranks 17th in the field and data golf's true strokes gained over the past six months. He is between Siwoo Kim, who I like, and Jason Day and Gary Woodland. That specific piece of data says we should be on Brendan Todd, but it's so hard for me to talk myself into him and a guy who is so different than the type of golfer we typically target. Even within performing well, I can't talk myself into it. I put a lot of faith in the data golf's true strokes gained rankings. Those say that Todd is interesting. I can't pull the trigger. Where are you at at Brendan Todd this week? I haven't gotten there. He's all short game with like, and you want the ball striking to be neutral at best. It's usually the inverse for us where we're saying, we know the ball striking is going to be there. We want the putting to be neutral. For him, it's the opposite. 76 percentile though and birdie are better at gained. Really good on Bentgrass and Poe, a 96 percentile there over the past 100 rounds. But I mentioned opportunities gained at the top of the show, which is fantasy national stat, which is effectively birdie opportunities. He's 76 percentile and birdie are better at gain, but 18th percentile and opportunities gained. He's really going to be dependent on that putter. While I'm emphasizing putting this week, it's not the only piece of the puzzle. I'm probably not in on Todd, especially at that mid 9,000 salary. That's a little bit high for me. I agree. Interesting finishes, interesting ranking, the data golf true strokes gained stuff, but not quite there for this week on Brendan Todd. Before we move on, he's not in the field yet, but Mito Pereira has won back-to-back on the corn fray tour. He's not in the field. I don't notice how it would be, but data golf has him 12th over the past 20 rounds and adjusted, they're adjusted strokes gained. So if he's a value, he's also someone I would consider, but I couldn't talk him up. Mito is a great name. So I find that very interesting. If you look at the past six months, there's not a lot there. So what do you like? Tell me what you know about this guy? Not a whole lot. It's just a matter of the fact that he's coming in win, win 10th, 66th, 9th, 2nd on the corn fray tour. I talk about the corn fray tour often enough relative to the European tour. It's about the same in terms of difficulty. Corn fray tour never gets quite as good as the European tour, but it's really not that different.  That's relevant enough. So I just wanted to throw him out there. I don't know what the salary is going to be in though. Okay. Perfect. Keep an eye on Mito Pereira once he is added to the field. Let's take a look at what bookmakers are saying for this week. Bryson DeChambeau, the heavy favorites. He is 7-1 if Andrew's sportsbook. Then it dips down to 14-1, which we'll already find Patrick Reed, Hideki Matsuyama, and Webb Sinsen, are both 16-1. Will Zalatoris is 20-1, followed by Joaquin Neiman at 22-1. Jason Kochrack and Matthew Wolff are both 27-1. Jason Day, Kevin Kisner, and SungJM round at the top group, they are all 33-1. So Brandon, after Bryson, the odds are pretty flat, even like there's not a huge drop-off from Webb to Neiman and all those guys. How does it alter your thoughts on roster construction for this week? Are we still trying to jam in two guys that Neiman are higher? Is there any interest in that high 10,000 range? What are your overall thoughts on that range for this week? Um, so I think there are some interesting names in the 10,000 range. I'll just start there. Specifically Cameron Tringale, he's got two good finishes at this course. I think he's actually one of my player picks for this week just based on, you know, Jim and I have a lot of overlap with player picks. So I bumped down a little bit. No, no, no, but I mean, you know, he's the one who really stands out. I'm not necessarily there. There's so many big names right around him with Jason Day, Bubble Watts, and Ricky Fowler. Probably not going to get to any of them specifically Jason Day, who's coming off a really good finish with 6.9 strokes gained from short game, which I'm not going to chase there. He's not a particularly good birdie maker, but I think Tringale is really interesting overall. But, you know, other than that, I don't see enough in the 10,000 range, maybe Charlie Hoffman now to build around. So I am going to be looking at, you know, to possibly, I don't ever build lineups like this. Sorry to know how like viable something like this is, but if I would go like Bryson Webb, Neiman, 8,300 left for three golfers, that I never play lineups like that, but that is something I would consider this week, especially with some golfers right around there. Libiota is 8,200. Sebastian Munoz, I think is 82 as well. Some guys in the 7,000 range. I'm open to that. So two at least out of, you know, from Neiman and above, for I should probably say Tringale and above. But yeah, it's a little bit different for me this week. What about you? I think I'm with you on the Neiman part. I like Tringale and I could see myself dropping down in for the second guy, but I do feel like there is a drop off after Neiman, where like I'd rather just find the way to get to Neiman as a second guy. As a third guy with the super top heavy one you mentioned, like maybe I could see going Bryson, Neiman, Tringale. Maybe that could work. Like I've kind of got that in front of me right now, and I don't hate it. There aren't any golfers I'm like actively against in that build, but it's a, it makes me a little, little uncomfy, as the kids would say. Yeah, but I do think that the, the like the low 9,000 range doesn't have a ton of names that I'm super interested in. The upper 8,000 and then even like the mid 8,000 or some just some names I've been playing a lot of, which is not to say like I'm sticking with these guys, no matter what is I've seen a lot from them. And you know, if I, if I saw something in them two weeks ago, odds are that's still relevant because I look at a long enough sample. So I'm just kind of seeing enough names there. Ben on is 8,200. We know that he can, if he ever gets back to form can make, make some birdies, but um, yeah, I, I'll just clarify. I guess if I'm playing Trin golly, I'm going to have two golfers above him and salary. You're not going to be my second golfer. That's too balanced. I think so too. Uh, speaking of Ben on, which golfers odds have shifted since things opened up yesterday at Fandalsports book? Hey man, it's a nice segue. Pro man, the pro stuff. Uh, walking Neiman 27 to 22 on Fandalsports book, Maverick McNeely 65 to 55, Matt Jones, uh, who, uh, 100 to 80, Doug Gimm, 120 to 80, Bo Hossler, Cam Davis, 120 to 90, and beyond who on 270 to 120. I like both Doug Gimm and Cameron Davis a lot. So I find that, uh, encouraging. Those are the two guys I mentioned before as being in the mid 8,000 range, who I like a lot. So seeing their odds shift, like it doesn't like it's confirmation bias, uh, but that's fine. I don't care personally find it on board. Uh, which lower salary golfers have odds stand out to you? Uh, McNeely is 9,100. He's now 55 to one, uh, Brendan Todd, 60 to one, Alex Noran, Sepp Straca, Danny Willett, 65 to one, uh, Harold Varner, the third, not, uh, who does Harold Varner if he's in the field? Lonto Griffin, Chris Kirk, Ryan Armour, Matt Jones, Doug Gimm all 80 to one, uh, at varying salaries. So we do have those sprinkles of golfers who's, you know, odds are a lot better in like that, you know, 8,000 range. Uh, and Kramer Hickok, uh, Cam Davis, Bo Hossler, 90 to one. So Maverick McNeely is someone who both has low odds for a salary and has shifted since things opened 65 to 55. He is 9,100 dollars. McNeely can make birdies, finished eighth year last year, finished 30th last week at the travelers, but the approach play is a pretty big question mark. So are you in on Maverick McNeely or does the approach play prevent you from getting too excited? Yeah, I'm not quite there. I'm really surprised to see like the odds be where they are for him. I don't really understand it so much. I guess it's back to back top 30s, but in an eighth last year, don't forget that people love courses. Sure. I just have them in the 10th percentile approach and that's really hard to get around. I mean, I guess, so here's another situation. Uh, 87th percentile and birdie are better rate gained, but 23rd percentile on opportunities gained. So he's probably a bit out over his skis, uh, with that, you know, birdie conversion. Hater! Hater! Let's talk about weather for this week in Detroit. Uh, Thursday could be kind of interesting. Wind speeds start out around five miles per hour. They wind up closer to 10 miles per hour by the end of the day. There also could be some rain in the afternoon. Friday wind speeds are pretty steady throughout the day. They do increase a bit to around 13 miles per hour in the afternoon. Winds are closed to 10 miles per hour Saturday before they go down a bit for Sunday. So there could be some funky weather on Thursday specifically. I don't think there is like a definitive wave advantage as of right now outside of maybe a slight bump up for those teeing off earlier Thursday. What I would say though is because there is some funkiness in the forecast, I'd check back Wednesday night to see what the up-to-date forecast looks like as of now. No takeaways, but that could change because there is some rain and wind potentially there. So check back on that Wednesday night. Let's finish up here with our player picks for this week at the rocket mortgage classic based on the salaries over at fandual.com. Brandon, who are you targeting in the upper tier on fandual for this week? I'm just going to stick with Bryson, which is not a surprise, but I do think he's the best process based play. I think he's the best cash game play and I think he's very much in play for tournaments, even though he will be chalky. I think you just differentiate elsewhere and it also doesn't really feel like a week where he's going to be 40%. He might be and if he is, then I need to scale back a little bit. But just the best long-term adjust the golfer in this field, according to my database, a field leader in adjusted strokes gained off the tee and overall birdie or better rate gained over the past 100 rounds. So I think that we just differentiate elsewhere. I think he's a really high floor play for this week. It's going to be a course that's not as demanding on his frontal lobe or whatever he had. So I think he's just going to be able to pound driver, hit some short irons or wedges onto these greens and then pot well. So if it were more reflective and again, this is where I kind of have trouble sometimes, my wind simulations don't have them as likely to win as the seven to one odds imply, but he's not like 13,000 to sort of reflect the betting market. So I think it's just, it's not enough of a salary difference for me to kind of be low on Bryson. This is a Kyle Larson situation where your best route to getting financial exposure to them is via DFS because it's not as restricting there as it is in betting. So I like Bryson as well. My favorite high salary golfer outside of Bryson is Webb Simpson. He's number two among the studs for me distance, not as necessary this week, which opens the door for Webb to perk up. I like him a lot here at 11 seven, even with the lack of distance. Webb does still rank 16th and birdies are better gain the past 50 rounds. A big part of that is putting you rank seventh in Ben grass plus poet putting the past 100 rounds. The last time we saw Webb, he did miss the cup, but that was at the US open where distance was important and that's not as big of an issue for this week. So the longterm form is elite. He benefits from the layout of the course. I think that Webb is great for both cash games and for tournaments. I just filled out a temporary bobble hat lineup. It does not have web in it. So I did want to go in Bryson, but I am still considering starting things off with Bryson and being a bit more balanced there. But given the value plays that I like, I think that this actually does wind up working out. So Webb still for tournaments, but I'm softening on the web and cash stance from earlier. Yeah, I think that the salary difference between Bryson and Webb is just not enough to kind of not get the Bryson and cash games. So that's where I am. But Webb is someone I love as well. I much prefer Webb as a bet at 16 to 1. Again, wind simulations are, see it pretty close between the two. And overall, he's just going to be my second favorite process-based golfer. I know he's had the neck injury, but we've seen him play since then and finished well. He missed the cut at the US open, but Lostro is putting, which is weird for him. So I'm in on Webb. I think he's the second place I would go on Vandal this week. Okay. Who else do you like in this upper tier? Well, your second love would have been here for me. So I'll bump down to Cameron Tringoli. And I think I've settled on my five with Bryson Reed, Webb, Tringoli and Joachim Neiman, who you'll talk about. And then I think I'm just going to play those guys and then probably bump down as far as I need to and just play some value plays. But Tringoli, we've seen two strong finishes from him at Detroit Golf Club already with a 30th and a fifth. So he has that angle. He's in the 89th percentile and adjusted Tee to Green over the past year, 92nd in adjusted putting, 97th in birdie or better rate gained. The only other four golfers who meet those cutoffs are Bryson Reed, Webb and Jason Kochrak. They all have a higher salary than Tringoli has. So he's my favorite tier two play. And honestly, other than maybe Charlie Hoffman, I'm not going to have anyone else in the 10,000 range. Yeah. I think that Tringoli and Hoffman are the two guys there I'd agree with as well. My second high salary guys, Joachim Neiman, who you alluded to before Neiman, someone who can be accurate when he needs to be like his overall fairways gain number is not great. 109th there. But he's 38th and good drives gained. And I think that that ability to be malleable is good for Neiman this week. He ranks sixth in total strokes gained off the tee. So I like him a lot at 11-2. Neiman is also 14th in approach. He is 14th and birdies are better gained. He has not finished inside the top 20 since the Wells Fargo, but in there were two majors. He still gained strokes and approach in all but one event in that time. And Neiman actually even gained two strokes around the green and one of those while keeping his improved skills on the green. I'm not saying bank on it, do not bank on it, absolutely not. But hey, you know, it doesn't hurt. I think that we just need to see Neiman put it all together, put it together the off the tee play, keep the approach good, keep the putting okay, not tank himself around the greens. I like him a lot at 11-2. What are your thoughts on Neiman this week? Yeah. I had to tip my cap to him, which I actually wasn't wearing for once. So I put one on. What was going on there? The hair looks good today. I'm not going to lie, but I was confused by there's no hat. Yeah, I think I just didn't really feel, none of the hats kind of fit. I'm wearing a white shirt, which I don't really wear. So it's kind of weird to find the right hat. But that's kind of where that went. But I thought the hair was decent for once. It usually looks like I just wore it out of bed because I just wore it out of bed. But yeah, for Neiman, for me, it's that he, it's not good chipping. And that's the one thing that you can not have this week. So it kind of gets a natural boost and the salary does help. But the more I looked at things, the more I realized I don't necessarily need to save a bunch of salary. I still think Neiman is a great win bet. He's going to be in my core for those studs. But for me, it's really that we know he's, he can just like laser it to the green and maybe make some pots. And I don't think I'll need to chip. And if he does need to chip, he's not going to be in contention anyway. But hey, you can gain two around the green anyway. So we're all good. He can, not saying he will, but he can, he proved it. We're good. No more conservative walking Neiman with the chipping. Yeah. Let's move down to the mid range and get off of that and talk about Brandon, a key narrative for this week. I slacked this to you last week after we recorded and I was like, oh man, we missed the Seawool Kim birthday narratives. However, technically his birthday is this week. It was yesterday. So I believe statute of limitations on birthday narratives is like either way, one week, one way or another. Seawool Kim missing the cut last week so he could party and now he's rested up. So the birthday narrative says Seawool Kim guaranteed to win this week. What do you like about him at $9,700? Yeah, I like a lot for Kim, honestly. Maybe the birthday narrative, I assume. Yeah. So I'm just going to, it's his birthday, so let's move on. But I haven't the 95th percentile and adjusted strokes gained heat at green over the past year. He's played here twice with just like sort of okay data, which is not really what you want to see, but I'm not putting a whole lot of stock into two stars at any particular course, especially with a bunch of data in between those that says that he's really good play. So I'm not going to overlook that. We see him do well on easy courses generally. Fantasy National has him ranked 11th in stroke scan average on easy courses over the past 100 rounds. And honestly, Kim benefits a ton getting away from Bermuda greens. He is in the 70th percentile in combined bent grass and poa putting over the past 100 rounds and just overall a 91st percentile and birdie or better rate gain. So I like him as a bet at 50 to 1 outright, but he's kind of the one midrange play. I really am eyeing up for this week. He is currently in that aforementioned Boba hat lineup. I like him a lot. I think that he's solid for this week. I was on him last week and I torpedoed him. So sorry Seawool Kim, but we're back here once again for this week. The other guy we discussed last week and obviously jinxed was Miliana Grillo. Didn't work out. He missed the cut as well. I didn't want to be using him. So that was good, but I like him for this week here at $9,900 Grillo missed the cuts. He has two straight missed cuts now. He lost a combined 3.9 strokes on the green between those two. But the big reassuring thing for me is that the driver bounced back for Grillo. He gained 2.3 last week after having lost in each of the previous four events. So Grillo ranks 14th off the tee, fourth in approach. Fourth and birdies are better gained in the past 50 rounds. Despite the bad punting, there is bentgrass on the greens, which is the best thing that Grillo could possibly hear. There isn't Poa, which is not as good. But the hope is that people jump off Grillo due to the two missed cuts. But I think he's a good play here regardless at $9,900. Brandon, you brought up Grillo last week. What are your thoughts on him this week? Yeah, so I mean, this is something I just kind of talked about where you see something in someone and things align and then it doesn't work out for one week. It doesn't mean that you forget all that. For me, the only thing that I'm seeing that is really worrying me about Grillo is just the putting specifically on this type of surface. We know that we can play Grillo on bentgrass. That's about it. So that's kind of why I just wrote him off because of the Poa that we do see here. But we know the Irons are going to be there. And we know that the upside is high. He's got three top 10s since mid-March. So he's either going to finish probably 15th or missed the cut. And that's not necessarily the type of volatility you have to embrace this week. So I'm a little bit lower on Grillo for that reason. And I would say that I mentioned Seawoo Kim is in the bobble hat lineup. Grillo is not. Grillo is a tournament play. I think Seawoo Kim, given his splits on these surfaces specifically, I do think the safety is there. Although it was the same surfaces last week, but I think that Seawoo Kim safe enough for a cash game, Grillo not. Who else do you like here in the mid-range on Fandall, if anyone? I always love Lonto Griffin, so I can make a case for him at 9,300. 93rd percentile approach play over the past year. I had a 21st at Detroit Golf Club last year as well. Struggles around the green a bit, just kind of middling there at 44th percentile. But that's kind of common for what I'm really looking at for these non-elite players for the week. Looking at golf versus salaries, win odds are probably low because everything's factored in. And whenever they do struggle around the green, that's factored into their stroke scheme total, their results, their betting odds. And then if you say that that's not important, they get naturally boosted up a little bit. So that's kind of the main angle for me with Griffin is that we know he can score well. And if the chipping is, if he can have baseline chipping and do everything else, he's going to be a fine play. But I'm just not really going to be in this salary tier a whole lot because I'm just not going to be. I think that kind of goes back to what you were talking about before with getting three studs. Because if you have three guys in the 8,000 range, it's not as big of a detriment as it usually would be. One guy I like here who I think we disagreed on last week, which was good for you, is Chris Kirk. I like Chris Kirk in 92. He missed the cut last week. Just love a lot of missed cut guys apparently this week. It wasn't an implosion. He gained a 0.1 T to green, just lost two putting to hurt him. The approach rebound for Kirk there was nice. He hadn't gained prior to that since the RBC heritage. The problem is that the off the tee play fell off, which erased the gains and approach. Kirk has been positive in both recently. He just hasn't done both in the same event. But Kirk can do that. He ranks 17. The birdies are better getting the past 50 rounds. He is 37th off the tee, 33rd in approach. I feel like there is enough here to like Kirk in 92. With that said, I'd like to not be in this range for the most part. I will use Kirk if I am here and I don't want to renegotiate elsewhere. Chris Kirk plus Webb versus Bryson and Cam Davis. I'll take Bryson every time there. If we're doing that 2v2, give me Bryson every time. But I do think that Chris Kirk at 92 is someone I'm considering and willing to use if I'm stuck in this tier. Brandon, any thoughts for you on Chris Kirk? He's an other to consider for me, specifically in the 9000 range just because it's hard to find five golfers in that tier. He's not the best putter, but solid elsewhere, can make birdies. It's fine, but I'm not really excited to roster Chris Kirk or build around him this week. Excited is not the word I would use either, so we're good to go there. Let's move down to the value range, which is pretty good. Who do you like in the value tier for this week? I'll stick with Sepp Straka, just kind of reiterate what I like about him. I already talked about him in more detail, but 10th last week when he gained 5.4 strokes from approach play, 58th percent how an adjusted approach over the past year, which helps account for the irons being mostly cold lately. He's going to get extra buzz. We already see that on fan share with those two top 11 finishes, but 84th percent how a birdie maker. I'm not saying I'm going to lock him in as the number one value play. That would probably be your guy next on the list, but I think there's still a case to be made, even though he's going to be a little bit chalky. That guy's Cameron Davis. He feels super under salary to $8,700. I think that he is tremendous for this week and a lock from my Bobo hat cash game lineup. He ranks 8th and birdies are better gained 10th off the tee in 23rd and approach. He is hideous around the greens and the hope is like you've discussed before that that matters less this week and you can do enough elsewhere to erase that. Davis has shown upside in the not terribly distant past. He finished third at the American Express in January 14th at the AT&T program and in both those events he was fine around the greens. It's a situation where if he can just not implode, which seems potentially possible this week, he can just tread water. Top 10 is within his range of outcome. I like Cameron Davis a lot this week. Brandon, what puts you on him? Just the fact that I don't care about around the green play and we know that at his best he can just fire some lasers, some darts and maybe make some putts. He's just a really good birdie maker as you talked about and that's really what gets me there. I mentioned already that I like combine long-term form and stats for the week that I'm looking at. I have Davis, despite being 47th in salary or tied for 46th, I should probably say. I have him ranked 18th overall in this field. I think that's enticing for sure. Cameron Davis to me, building block at 87. Who else do you like here in the value range? I'm going to go with Tom Hoagie, jump the whole way down to 7,600. Just better than the salary suggests. It's not to say that he's a slam dunk or can't miss play, but not long off the tee, but that gets mitigated a little bit this week. You can be long off the tee as we saw last year, but you don't have to be. Again, the volatility leads to more golfers being relevant. 73rd percentile and birdie are better rate gained, despite that lack of length, which is not the most common overlap there. 84th percentile and a long-term adjusted stroke scene approach, which is what we always like. The salary really opens things up for Hoagie. I like James Hahn as well. I think he's 7,700. I could even probably get talked into Vaughan Taylor at 7,600 as well. I actually built a lineup with, I'll say it's a bit too much to give out, but I'll say I had Siwu and some studs. What do you mean Siwu and studs? That implies Siwu is not a stud himself.  The salary-based studs. That's the thing. Siwu is probably under salary too, but you can make it work if you can talk yourself into Tom Hoagie and maybe someone else around there. I probably will not use Tom Hoagie, however, the big counterpoint to that is that he does rank above Kramer, Hickock, Doc Redmond, Zebstrakha, all guys we discussed in the true strokes gained data over the past six months. Hoagie, that's a good defense for using him. I might not get there, but that is enough for him to be fully in play for this week. My second low salary guy is another guy who I will be using in our head to head, is Doug Gimm. He is our guy. I think we can say that now. Is that fair? Can we just make Doug Gimm a heat check favorite at this point? Yeah. He's got the stamp of approval from us. Okay. Doug Gimm confirmed heat check stud, $8,500. That is despite ranking seventh in approach to the past 50 rounds. That hasn't translated to a ton of birdies, but some of that's because he's not long off the tee. He ranks 85th in the field in distance, but 14th in good drives gained. I'm hoping that a course where accuracy matters a bit more than usual can elevate Gimm for a value salary, $8,500. Totally fair for me. I love Doug Gimm. What are your thoughts on our boy this week? Yeah, I like him as well. He would be someone who just another reason why we can get up to Bryson, build around these studs. I think the question you have to ask is, is this guy heat check approved? Ask me, is he above the 90th percentile and adjust the T-degree and below the 20th percentile and putting, and if that's the case, then yeah. So I was doing a search for Cameron Davis for some reason, and it said Google does like related to the related list for Cameron. I've apparently searched, I start to see who came to see his birthday. The related list is Cameron Davis, Sung J. M, Joaquin Neiman, Taylor Gooch, Doc Redmond, Milano Grillo, Cameron Tringale. It's just like, is it just because I've searched for these two guys and all these guys together? Or is this just, does Google know me that well, that they know? Actually, I'm using a Google Doc right at the rundown. They probably actually do know. This is okay. I figured this out. It's not conspiracy. Let's stop talking about Google, and they're not tracking any. Yeah, no free ads. Come on. No free ads for Google. They need the publicity from us. No free ads. I use, and I rip off the front of my notebook, so I don't know who sold me that, and then I write everything down there. That's how I do stuff. Tinfoil over the notebook too, just to be safe. Okay, good. Winpix for this week. Let me open up my Google Doc. Okay. So I'm going to pick Patrick Reed or Web Simpson. I'm deciding which one. Do you want one of them or no? Yeah, I won the ball last week. I'm just going to take web. We can still overlap. No, you can take web. I'll take read then. He's about 14. Web is 16. I'm a second golfer. Honestly, it's Neiman. He's shortened. 22 is not as good of a number as 27 was, and that makes me hesitate a bit. I could consider Coke Rack.  Coke Rack has stayed at 27. Neiman is shortened to 22.  You haven't talked about Jason Coke Rack for one second on this podcast. Yeah, but like, it's because he's any higher salary than Neiman? Yeah, he's $100 higher. I'm going to see what Kim at 50. Okay. I'll go Neiman then. 22 is not the best number, but I still like him. So let's go with, I have read and Neiman. Let me go with Will's Out of Taurus. I've been talking to him up all show. It's a different thing. It is. It is, but different things. We talked about Bryson. You would never bet Bryson at seven to one. But like we talked about, I don't think you get that. Yeah, get out of here. Get out of here. Shoot. No, terrible. I'm changing to Coke Rack out of defiance. I'm making you change your dock. Coke Rack at 27. Guaranteed to be walking Neiman this week. Write it down. It's written down in the Google spreadsheet here. So Jason Coke Rack will pop up in my next search for Lucas Kola. Oh, I thought you were doing a brand based. No, it's going to branch out. No, because it's all the heat check guys. It's all together. Okay. So you have Web and Siwu Kim for the birthday narrative, not for anything else. And I have read and Coke Rack for this week. That is all that we have here for the Heat Check Fantasy podcast for this week. But as mentioned, we are back here once again later today. Brandon is with you 3.30 p.m. Eastern on the Fandal YouTube, Twitch, Facebook and Twitter pages taking your questions live on both the betting and DFS of the Rocket Mortgage Classics. Make sure you subscribe there. Also subscribe to the Number Fire Daily Fantasy podcast feed to get your MLB, UFC, NASCAR and PGA podcasts all in one place. Brandon, if people have questions for you on Twitter, where can they find you there? I'm at Goodwill 13, GDULA13. 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From around the globe, it's theCUBE with digital coverage of IBM Think 2021, brought to you by IBM. Welcome back to IBM Think 2021. This is theCUBE's ongoing coverage where we go out to the events. In this case, of course, virtually to extract the signal from the noise. And now we're going to talk about the shifts in customer employee experiences and channels. The past year obviously has exposed gaps in both of those areas. The shift to digital channels, I mean, it hit every industry. If you weren't a digital business, you were out of business. So there's huge demand for better, AKA less frustrating and hopefully superior customer experiences. That's never been higher. It puts a lot of pressure on companies and their marketing departments to deliver. And with me to talk about these trends are two great guests, Alex Shutman, the general manager of Adobe Workfront. Alex was CEO of Workfront, which Adobe acquired last year. And Matthew Candy, global managing director of IBM IX. Gentlemen, welcome, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having us. Great speaking. Matt, let's start with you. Maybe you could talk to the shifts that I talked about earlier in the past year and customers' expectations and how they changed and how you guys responded. Yes, so Dave, I mean, it's been my goodness, what a year, right? If we'd gone back and thought, we never would have seen this coming. And certainly, I guess for the clients, I run the digital customer experience business, the services business here at IBM. And certainly, we have been very busy helping clients across just about every industry, accelerating their digital transformation efforts. And I think what has been absolutely clear is digital, mobile, all of these ways of engaging with customers through channels has been an absolutely critical way in which businesses have kept going and survived over this time. And certainly, we've seen that transformation accelerate, and companies shifting from face-to-face interactions from a B2B sales perspective into online, B2B commerce, et cetera. So really, it's become digital by default. And I think customers really demanding personalized experiences and wanting to make sure that these companies really know you in how they deal with you. You know, Matt, I mean, our business, think about our business, it was predominantly going out to events, live events. And then overnight, our entire industry had to shift to virtual. And what it was is you had all these physical capabilities and people tried to shove it into virtual and it was really hard. It was a lot of unknowns, really different. I imagine there's some parallels within marketing organizations. And I wonder if you could talk Matt about what kind of barriers you saw about delivering those kind of digital interactions and experiences. Yes, so I guess, you know, we've seen kind of five core challenges that companies have been facing. So firstly, around volume and velocity of content. So, you know, as we're putting more demand into organizations, right? For more content to the greater pace, right? This causes challenges for companies in terms of being able to get content out there and surface it through their digital channels, right? Whether that's kiosks or voice, web, mobile, et cetera. And that pace is not slowing down. Second thing is this demand for personalization. So, you know, as companies and individuals are touching through all of these touchpoints across kind of marketing sales and service, the need to be able to kind of interact in the right way, showing that you know me, using personal data to match the right offer at the right time, critically important. Thirdly, the MaTeX stack across many of these organizations, this explosion in marketing technology over the last 10 years has been absolutely incredible. And so one of the big challenges companies have is how we tie all of these different components of the stack together to build their seamless experience. Fourth challenge, right? Additional communication channels, you know, so as we need more content and personalization and we've got to join up across all these different systems, how do we make this consistent across all of these channels, right? Whether it's digital or physical, you know, is a true test of many organizations' ability to respond. And the fifth point is the coordination needed across departments within companies. And so, you know, how the marketing department deals with legal, with regulatory approvals, with sales, how they go out to their agency partners. And this has certainly got a lot more complex across geographies and across boundaries within companies and outside. And so we see, you know, absolutely this need to put in place a marketing, you know, basically the marketing system of records that helps kind of manage this. And this is where we see huge opportunity together with Adobe. Yeah, so Alex, maybe you could talk about this a little bit.  Matt talked about the Martek stack. What's your take on this and how are IBM, IX and Adobe work front working together? What has occurred in response to what Matt talked about is that companies started realizing that work was a tier one asset inside the marketing team.  We should put a system in place to manage financials. They realized their customers were really important. Just so we should put a system in place to manage our customers. People are important. They bought work data to make sure that they could manage their people. And all of this complexity that Matt talked about caused enterprises to realize that the work of marketing was as important as some of those other activities in the organization. And so they started investing in a marketing system of record like work front. You know, that's interesting. Just a quick aside. I mean, if you think about a lot of the problems we have in data and big data, the type of talk about stovepipe, you just mentioned three examples, finance, HR and now marketing, where we've contextualized the system. In other words, the domain experts, the people in finance and HR and marketing, they're the ones who know the data the best. They don't have to go necessarily to some big data team and data scientists and all this stuff. They know what they want and they know it. And that's really what you guys are serving in your streamlining. This notion, Alex, of a marketing system of record is really interesting. I mean, it's relatively new, isn't it? And so why does it matter so much to marketers? Yeah, if you think about it, we've been able to serve 3000 enterprises around the globe. We serve all 10 of the top 10 brands, half of the Fortune 100. And what has created the need for the new, if you think about it, are the challenges that start arising when you implement the concepts that Matt talked about. Consider one of the largest private critical issueers on the planet. And you think about delivering that personalized experience all the way to an end customer. You've got a private credit card issuer. They do business with hundreds of thousands of companies. Their account managers are interacting with those companies and all of that lands back on a marketing organization that has to jointly plan promotions with those companies to drive the private credit card business. That marketing team needs visibility to the work that's happening or consider a major medical manufacturer who's trying to get medical products out the door. And the marketing team is trying to coordinate with the product team, with the regulatory team, with the supply chain team, with the legal team. And they're trying to orchestrate all of that work so that they can get products out the door more quickly or maybe a financial services organization that's getting new, to also try to get new products out the door. And they're trying to get all the approval about the content that goes with those products and it's all about speed to market. That's what's creating the need for the new, kind of as you phrased it, Dave. Yes, excellent. Thank you. So then Matt, paint a picture sort of, a lot of people may not be familiar with IBM IX, maybe how you guys, you got creators, you got deep expertise in this area. So maybe talk about where you add value and how you work with Adobe. Yeah, so IBM IX, so we sit within the services business at IBM. As you said, Dave, right? We have designers, experienced strategists, engineers, basically able to deliver kind of end-to-end, digital and customer experience solution right from the creative all the way through to the technology platforms and the operations. Adobe is one of our key, strategic partners across IBM and certainly within my part of the business. And so we couldn't have been more delighted when a work front joined Adobe through the acquisition there. So we already had a strong relationship with the work front team. And so now seeing that as part of the Adobe kind of platform and family there really opens up massive opportunities. We're working with several major airlines automotive companies, retailers, using Adobe technology to transform the customer experiences that they have putting in place new digital platforms and new ways of engaging with those customers. But what is absolutely clear, and as Alex was talking about this need for marketing systems of record as this landscape becomes more complex as the velocity of change kind of increases the need to not just focus on the customer experience and how a customer interacts with the brand but the need to get the workflows and the processes within the organization that sit behind that, organized, executing in the correct way in an efficient way in order to make sure that you can deliver on that customer promise. And so this is absolutely critical effectively to get to drive this kind of workflow improvement the productivity improvement and put intelligence and automation into these processes across the organization. So there is a, certainly we believe a huge opportunity together in the market to help clients transform and to deliver the value in this space. Got it. Alex, maybe you could just at a high level share some examples of how Adobe and from your drawing on your experiences from work front, how you've sort of helped companies where they had to get, you know, content out you had to automate the processes and the kind of outcomes that you saw that you hope to share with other clients. You know, what Matt's talking about is the need for intelligent workflows within a marketing organization because a marketing organization is trying to solve one of two challenges. Either they're trying to be more efficient because they can't get more resources to do the work that they need to do or they're trying to operate with speed. And so what our breakthrough thinking was Dave in terms of solving these problems and then I'll give you an example is the realization that while it seemed like work should be different in different enterprises ultimately all work has five elements to it.  So we have to have the strategic planning around the intake of work. Then we have to plan out the work. Then we actually have to execute the work. We have to understand who's doing what. We have to have transparency to whether or not that work is getting done or people need help in that work. Then that work needs to be approved by somebody. And then finally, especially in marketing then we have to actually deliver that work to a technology like AEM where we're going to publish it on the web. So if you take the case of a major financial company that serves consumers, that financial company is constantly bringing new products to market. Now, if you're bringing new products to market if you think about the United States you have to make sure that you have supported the regulatory approval that's necessary for a product. So that product has to be able to go to the right investor. That product, if it's in a certain state has to have oversight to it. So now you're a marketing team in a financial services organization that's supporting getting new product to market. And in a particular customer it used to take them 63 days through all of the approvals necessary to just get content out the door. Now that they are effectively intaking the work, planning the work, executing the work, reviewing the work and delivering the work digitally that's down to eight days. And with the MarTech platform you have the data so you know what content you want to get out and you can make decisions much better. I mean my big takeaway is you got the art of marketing, those with the marketing DNA I don't have that gene. But it's intersecting with the science and automation and the data and the workflows and driving efficiency and ultimately driving results and revenue. So that's kind of my big takeaway from this conversation but Alex maybe you could give us your takeaway and then Matt you can bring us home. Yeah I mean my takeaway is in this new economy marketing is a tier one corporate activity marketing is a peer activity to manufacturing, to distribution, to sales and to finance and every one of those disciplines are managed with a system. Marketing needs its own system because it's as important as any other organization and so to me Dave it's no more complicated than that that marketing is now as important as every other function and it needs to be managed as every other function and work front is the application that marketing manages the workflows and the business of marketing. All right Matt give us your final thoughts please. Yeah, no, my final thought building on what Alex said so we've put together a joint interview with Adobe and with work front called Intelligent Content Transformation, right? That is our strategic framework to help clients accelerate on this journey both of delivering these amazing customer outcomes but how we transform processes within the marketing organization. And I think that yes you can continue to focus on delivering amazing digital experiences for customers and it's absolutely critical and that's critical to revenue growth but actually what's also critical is to drive efficiency in these workflows across the enterprise, right? And that is not only going to enable the revenue growth it's going to enable you to deliver on that promise but it's also going to result in significant cost and efficiency improvements for these companies by focusing on marketing in the same way as we have done for procurement transformation supply chain transformation, finance transformation, HR transformation, right? There's a lot of effort gone into the efficiency of those workflows we've got to do the same for marketing. So massive opportunity day, massive. It is massive. Every company has to in some way shape or form put high quality content in front of their customers to engage with them. Gentlemen, thanks so much for coming on theCUBE. Really appreciate your time. Thanks for having us. All right. And thank you everybody for watching. This is Dave Vellante for theCUBE. You're watching IBM Think 2021, the virtual edition. We're right back.


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Hello and welcome to another FNAF Projects update video. That's right, it's a new month which means I of course missed out on several informations on new projects coming out sometime this year. The sentence didn't really make any sense but it's fine, I stayed up all night, I'm not gonna make any sense throughout this entire video. Anyways, so the people over on the FNAF Reddit, linked down below of course, have released information on various projects for FNAF that are gonna be coming out pretty soon. I missed these, I missed some things so we're gonna be going over some things today, right now, here we go. The first bit of information is 135am, the third book in the FNAF series, has a preview that you can go and look at right now. I have been very bad on making videos on reviews, summaries and previews for the Fazbear Freud books. It is entirely my fault, I apologize 100%, so whether or not I'm gonna do a video on this, I'm not entirely sure just yet because I suck at doing those videos. Funko is apparently making yet another FNAF board game. This game is titled Survive the Night. There's only one image provided for the game and it's this, it's kind of just the logo. Wouldn't you believe it's based on the popular video game? I never would have thought, no clue what FNAF is. It does have a description though, so I'll read it out right now. Five nights at Freddy's Survive the Night game, you are the Night Shift security guard for a Freddy Fazbear's pizza and it is your duty to check the security cameras and keep the equipment in good walking order and beware the animatronics that activate on their own at night. Each turn, you'll check the cameras and react to the movements of the dark. Choose to turn on the lights or close doors to protect yourself, but watch out. Each reaction depletes your limited power. Keep Freddy and his friends out of your office until you can clock off at 6am. So based on the description, it seems like it's gonna be a turn-based survival game where everyone is either in separate rooms or they're all in the same office and they roll the turn, presumably with a die or something and then depending on what they get they can do certain actions. None of this is official, I'm just speculating right now and then you can either check the lights, close the doors, look at the cameras and then depending on what you do, certain amounts of power will be depleted from your overall power, I don't know. There's really not much to go off of, it does ship out in October so we have that to look forward to and it appears to be 17 United States dollars. We of course had Ultimate Custom Night that released on mobile devices, which we are currently doing a series on. Help Wanted News, that is right, that is entirely right. If you guys remember, a little bit ago it was revealed that Help Wanted would be coming to the Oculus Quest, the Xbox and the Nintendo Switch. Stewart World Studios says that the Quest port is coming very very very soon, they just have a little bit more to work on and then also the Nintendo port is also only a few quote weeks away. Originally a page was up on the Nintendo eShop for people to buy, Help Wanted or maybe they weren't able to buy it, I wasn't actually able to check it out. They quickly took it down whoever and they will put it back up once they are done with everything and they did say it'll be up in a couple of weeks. Of course I highly doubt I'm 99.99999 repeating percent sure that it's going to be the flat version of Help Wanted for Xbox and the Switch. There's no way Help Wanted is going to work with the Nintendo Labo and I'm pretty sure Xbox doesn't even have a VR headset of its own. Quest will obviously be VR. So here's the exact quote for the Quest port, they say for Quest. We would love to say but we are working closely with our partners so we don't want to give a specific date just yet but as the kids say here in California heck and soon we can safely day it is almost done like so very very almost so almost that if I sneeze slightly it would cease being almost and become fully done. Quest launch is on the horizon if the quest launch was a night in one of the offices we would currently be at like 5.58 a.m. so very very soon they have not said anything about the Xbox port just yet but I'm assuming it's not going to be too far away either maybe at the most like two or three months but I'm pretty sure we can expect it very soon as well. Still not official though so don't don't quote me on that. Ah yes now we have another preview for the next Fazbear Fright book after 1.35 a.m. and it is titled step closer that's the one with Foxy on the cover.  I'm sorry dude I fucking suck at those videos I just I cannot get them done uh yeah I'm so sorry I guess but speaking of Fazbear Fright um get away from all that bad news of me not being able to release videos we have even more news if you were upset that book five was the final book and I know some of you were because I got a lot of comments saying that you guys wanted more Fazbear Fright books well you guys are in luck because book six and book seven have been revealed book six is titled black bird and Fazbear Fright book number seven does not have an official title just yet interestingly enough black bird will be released on December 29th of this year and book seven will not be released until March 2nd of 2021 which is next year something that's odd is that if you guys missed my post from a couple days ago um on the community title of the channel we are getting a collection of Fazbear Fright books kind of like what we got with the main book series of the Silver Eyes Twisted Ones and Fourth Closet where we had a collection featuring those three books and then a poster added on we are also going to give a collection of the Fazbear Fright books it's unknown whether or not a poster or any other type of merchandise will be in that collection so far we just know the main five books are going to be in it the collection will be released on the same day as book number five bunny call is released so it seems odd that books six and seven only two more books would be left out of this collection so i'm guessing we're going to get more Fazbear Fright books which is really crazy to think about because this is seven books confirmed already and we're possibly going to get more that's insane to me if i had to make a guess i'm guessing it'll go up to 10 that is of course not official we have no clue if that's the actual case but it seems like that would be it you know you have one collection for the first five books and then you have a second collection for the last five books that makes sense in my opinion but we only know of up to seven so far one of the big things that happened in april was of course a lot of negativity around the fan base there was a lot of stuff going on not many people are happy about april for fnaf and it really just wasn't a good year i mean i'm tired we of course have the two leaks for the upcoming fnaf 2020 game and then we had a fan made model used in the ucn port trailer both of which were really upsetting and they all happened in the exact same month they were like a week apart too so it really was not a fun time for april hopefully things get turned around pretty fast because that that sucked the leaks as interesting as they were really fucking sucked you could tell just how devastated scott was and steward still has not released an official statement on them but i'm guessing they are going to feel a lot of what scott is feeling as well and then of course the backlash to um the fan made model used in the ucn trailer that was in my opinion really freaking harsh i don't think it should have gone that bad of course it's not acceptable this has been happening way too much recently over the past couple of years ever since scott has been giving out licensing to other companies just like the updated edition of the freddy files where the map of ucn used a crap ton of fan made models this is the same thing and it's been going on for a really long time um another example steward did it again with um a teaser for help wanted where they had spring bonnie and fun time foxy two of those uh those two models were traced from fan made models and it's it's really not surprising at this point that it happened even scott admit admits that the fan made models look better or look really similar to his own model so you can see where the confusion was um and i was just still i'm still shocked just how much people attacked um click team and even scott himself i saw a lot of people calling scott lazy um and there were so many people yelling at click team like you guys are idiots you know the guy who did this should be fired and i partly agree with the guy that should be fired part but people were being really harsh really unnecessarily harsh um yeah that's my personal opinion on it um just overall not a good month for finnaf at all but hopefully may can be turned around because we're gonna be getting a lot of stuff um the switch port the uh the quest port hopefully coming out this month as well but um no release date on that we also have 135am coming out on the 5th a new finnaf ar character would be expected for this month as well because it's tradition to at least one every month but we haven't had any ward on that which does kind of concern me a bit and then hopefully we'll get more information on finnaf 2020 um but in a better way of course from an official teaser maybe even a trailer but hopefully something better than leaks so yeah that's gonna be it i've recorded two videos today and my voice is already killing me i have the entire day to record i'm the only person in the house it's only 9am i have the whole day to record and my voice is already going i gotta wrap this up quickly so thanks for watching stay tuned for more information coming hopefully very soon from official sources and i'll see you all on the flip side