ink nope third to last of the strategy areas We have public safety and community well-being No change to the goal statement which reads to provide public safety services that support well-being and healthy communities So a nice broad focus in the well-being of the community We have a number of strategies The second one list in there Was modified so we have evaluate and potentially establish an integrated health response team for the city That reflects work that is envisioned in I believe underway The last two strategies that are listed within this focus area Seek community input to find to define an updated view of public safety was added and incorporated Reflecting the need to engage with the community but also to get clarity around what does that mean when we talk about public safety Making sure that people are presented the opportunity to share what that looks like to them And then lastly to create opportunities for pro-social youth activities And that was a discussion we had really in the spirit of trying to Prevent get ahead of homelessness and how to do that successfully With pro-social activities programming resources within the community The next strategy or next focus area rather is the natural and built environment We really wanted to focus on the combination of not just the built environment But the natural beauty and the amenities that are available within the community As an asset So investing in sustainable climate adapted infrastructure and community assets is the goal there For this one, we added the very first strategy there Following the environmental scan and lots of conversation around the need to address deferred maintenance So that stands out right up in front address deferred maintenance and critical infrastructure That includes water pipes the wharf streets other major assets The third strategy down We've added in maintain and further develop a skilled and trained workforce in recognition that you have an outstanding workforce already it's not a matter of of just If having to increase it but actually to maintain and sustain and invest in that area The strategy right below that we added in the last part So we have improved public transportation infrastructure to increase equitable access to sustainable travel options That's mobility within the community And then finally the last strategy we added in the idea of public partner public private partnership within Identifying resources so continue aggressively identifying and pursuing grant public Private and low interest loan financing programs including becoming educated on how to best plan and structure projects to be grant eligible So making sure you can seize those opportunities when they become available And i'm happy to go back on any of these i'm trying in the interest of time to hit the highlights The last of the focus areas is the thriving organization In order to get all of these things done there's recognition as we discussed at our workshop that you need to have a thriving Organization and so we spent a lot of time really emphasizing those can those critical component components here So advance a high performing organization where employees employees are empowered to deliver outstanding services to the community. That's the goal In that first strategy Listed on this on the chart. I recognized that The draft document that we provided we had added in listened to So it reads foster a positive work culture where all employees are valued included listened to and supported So that's an error in the slide there in your draft document that was incorporated We also added in That third to the bottom of the strategies to collaborate with regional part with regional agencies including the community college other school districts And employers To develop a more direct workforce development and recruitment pipeline for the city So recognizing that there are great resources out there and building those Partnerships and working together to support that and lastly we added the the final strategy Which is to continuously improve and modernize city service delivery And really embrace that spirit of continuous improvement for the the delivery of services and for public Programming so those are the changes that we have incorporated Happy to address any questions and I'm very interested to hear your feedback and your comments You have had some time to percolate on this important work and get your thoughts and comments So our next steps will obviously we'll take your input today And from that we will be preparing a final version of your strategic plan And then from there the the implementation activities that will Commence through your staff. So thank you for the opportunity to present this back to you like like to hear your comments Thank you very much questions or comments by the council the vice mayor is recognized Thank you so much. I really enjoyed that day that we had together and I appreciated how Every you synthesized everything that everybody kind of brought to the table and everyone's different viewpoints are Elevated here and we can all work as a team moving forward just a couple of tiny details Um, and I don't know if it's just me but the the little find your joy in Santa Cruz I don't know why I didn't like it I was just wondering joy just seems like it reminds me like a christmas song or something It's like it's kind of semantics, but if we could find something else, and I don't know if I'm the only one maybe then maybe I wonder on that point I think maybe more than one person might might comment on this You know in the constitution we're managing towards a pursuit of happiness So I wonder if finding your happiness in Santa Cruz might be a little better I like that. I like that that sounds nice Um, and then the only other thing that I saw where I was like, I didn't see it anywhere Was in the homeless response was there's no mention or in the public safety about personal accountability And I understand that Homeless individuals are suffering and there's a lot going on but I think in this town There's been a lack of account of individual accountability And um, it's frustrating And I don't know if there's any place to add that and maybe it's not but that that first, um Uh vision statement at the top where it was like working with the interests honestly My interest is with the the The other members of the community the business that housed And I'd like to see if because when we're offering shelter and they're not accepting it then what because that's what my experience has been and I hate to like beat a dead horse here, but It just got back from a third world country and guess what we didn't see on the ground Any garbage or and I didn't see any homeless people wandering the streets and we went to three different cities and so We can do it too. We can do it Thank you, madam vice mayor. Thank you We will work our way around miss bruner Thank you, um Um, I'll start where you kind of left off on the joy And I was just pulling up my notes because I remember that um, there was a discussion around several options, um And I think it was really trying to incorporate Um, you know create a sustainable livable city that brings joy A vibrant healthy resilient community find your joy. We kind of played around with all those um topics Building a future for everyone together of thriving community equity wellness health sustainability and and so um It's funny that we're revisiting it and it stands out in a different way now because I feel like that's what we landed on um, but You know For me, it's Either way, they all incorporate. I think what our vision and our goals are um my input for this is um, I really We we touched on it in that That Retreat in the workshop seniors And the natural the natural environment um our two Places two two topics that I'm not really seeing Called out in in here and whether it's in housing community well-being um, I think you know as we recently have um worked towards being an a a rp designated city and um, so the senior component and our um priority of our natural environment and investing in our parks and um amenities and open spaces. I think You know it and I remember that that was all around what it means to be A livable city what that you know as we define there was Trying to define livable city and defining public safety. There were some discussions. I remember around those two points And so I just think there's a way to really incorporate that in here um a little more Well, I'm gonna if I could might on the under the natural infrastructure We'd added in the word natural, but I'm hearing is where's the strategy that the environment and in the yeah, okay Less so the infrastructure. I mean not less so like infrastructure and the natural environment Thank you. Thank you Call sorry johnson. Thank you. Um, you weren't alone. I also the tagline didn't resonate with me there. I just kind of was like Ranging a little cheesy and I know we talked about I looked at my notes too But then when I saw it it didn't um Didn't land with me. I like the mayor's suggestion better than what we have here Um, but other than that I thought this that you thank you for integrating the feedback that you received on that retreat day and from all the various ways that you've been Getting information from the community I explicitly wanted to call out the integration of youth and families into many of the strategies So I really like to seeing that I do recall talking about our health and all policies as The prisms in which we look out um For every strategy that we have and so that was a very big missing Um in this report for me um and even if it's At the beginning when we have our vision statement With a visual that shows that this is all within the framework of health equity and sustainability I don't know what it looks like and um my colleague council member Watkins may have some other suggestions um And then you know just the other thing I shared with our city manager It's a lot of different strategy areas or focus areas And I kept wrecking my brain of how we could consolidate, but I think I think we would lose something so Just having worked on strategic plans before and knowing that you typically want to keep it to like three to five areas And we've got how many seven seven It's a lot. I I don't know how we solve for that. I I couldn't figure it out Each of these areas is really important. The strategies listed are important. It's very thorough So I don't know but it's a lot Yeah Thank you Thank you Let me move this way Council member Watkins is recognized. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Thank you so much for your work It's really nice to see the edit the edited version and incorporation of all of our thoughts and comments So I really appreciate that. Um, I I agree with the suggestions in terms of the joy I think you know, it can come off that way. I like happiness. I think that feels good So as we look at revisiting that that makes sense to me um I'll just share because I was thinking of my daughter when I said all of her like have fun and like I told her that and she's like and mom like black lives matter. We need more rights for women So She wanted to have fun and all the other things that we're doing. So I just wanted to contextualize that. She's like, don't miss The passion. It's a passion part. Exactly. Exactly. But it's all about really how you feel here in our community, right? And so how do we capture that and how do we implement strategies that reflect that? Um, I do agree with the health and all policies. It could be as uh simple as a Visual there's one in Richmond that is like a prism and you can it basically shows like decision making and then it comes out through The prism of these lenses of health equity and sustainability. So just as we you know, integrate that that's one suggestion We could do just visually keeping it. Um, kind of shorter on which I really like Um, so yes about the health and all policies. I agree about the age friendly cities um, and our climate change strategies for sure and then um, I'm assuming But I think to your point counts member um, Calentary Johnson Like how is this not a strategic plan that goes on the wall? But ultimately like an adaptability plan that we're using to guide us and to prioritize as years To come right and so as we're thinking about Revisiting this this plan, you know, what is built into how we revisit it would be of interest to me And so not losing track of the work but also tying it to the priorities and the implementation strategies and checkpoints along the way Um, but other than that, I think it's I think it's really great I really like that it's I think less is more in terms of wordy. It's not very wordy, which I appreciate Um, and yeah, I really appreciate your your time and energy and effort to make it reflect what we said So thank you and thanks for being here Other council members on this Miss brown. I would I would just add or or sort of Associate myself as the mayor says with the comments made by my colleagues Around the kind of some of the specifics with respect to age friendly cities Kind of how we are looking across the age spectrum children and youth to make that more prominent Um, and you know, I I have a hard time engaging with documents like this It's just not the way my brain works. I'm like am I a nuts and bolts person. So, um, You know, there's a there's a lot here and um, I think that Council member calendari johnson's point about, you know, how is it that we're Going to put this into action. That's a question for all of us for the future as well as just a comment here for the document So, thank you Ask it off to my colleague No pressure Mr. Newsom without pressure. No, thank you Thank you, marikely and my my comments will be brief. Just want to thank you for all your work on this document and for incorporating all of our For all of the feedback that you received on the document and I do want to associate with the comments about the As well to find your happiness as I like that suggested as well For the comments If we can go through a few items Last one that stands between us and our summer vacation as I understand this Yeah, yikes Let's start with The page that has The handsome city manager on it On that a message from the mayor if you'd be kind enough to have that be a mayor from a message from the mayor and city council If you would agree on the last sentence to change that to we Look forward to working with you. That'd be helpful. Thank you if we go over to Let's go over to homeless response for a moment Two items there. I imagine everything in this report is fair game Okay, good enough Some will be obviously more important than others I wonder if in response to the vice mayor's question on homelessness response if we might add a bullet That read something like this Support efforts that increase personal responsibility as an outcome. Excuse me as an element of program outcomes I'll read it again support efforts that increase personal responsibility As an element of program outcomes get you where you want to go. Okay, something like that Perhaps without objection Also the photo on that page May actually be something More suitable for natural and built environment I think there ought to be an honest photo there And by honest, I mean what we're doing in that regard something 1220 river street housing matters Something that goes to homelessness, which I don't think this does and I might just a note on the con The photos some of them we are interested in having higher quality. We needed to do some placeholders. And so noted In that same vein on the next page on public safety and community well-being I think again, I'm not sure this photo matches up to that as much as one of the most significant things That's ever happened in this community on this issue Which took place again last weekend, which is the repainting of the blm Meryl out in front of city hall might be an appropriate photo here Staying in this vein on thriving organization Um, although I know these are pictures of the county vehicle fleet I Some of which are getting a little long in the tooth But I wonder if instead some people photo of our wonderful city staff folks and Some kind of setting that that brings recognition to them rather than a special event that that is run by the parks department That would be my feedback. Let me ask if there are other comments Councilmember Watkins, no, I appreciate you Raising the the comment and the point about adding some language there and then tying it, you know In terms of a common around the picture for the Black Lives Matter Because I think what happens when we have discussions about accountability It automatically feels like criminalization or penalty and really what For example, the Black Lives Matter conversation was about accountability as a part of healing as part of personal Responsibility and it's part of growth as a community and acknowledgement of truth and and reconciliation in that way So I don't know how we capture the nuances of what that means because I think it is part of how our individuals able to learn from mistakes or circumstances situations supported Healed as a community and supported to be successful independently and that's part of our court system or our county system our programs are our system our police is I mean It's so integrated So I I guess I I say that because I feel like The nexus between the experience that happened with the Black Lives Matter is a really great Example of what a restorative justice accountability approach could be to what ultimately I think you're getting out Vice mayor with your concern around how that can be an opportunity for an individual to grow and to thrive and become Healed as a community our community healed from any Experiences and then an ability for hopefully thriving right and and ultimately actualizing our vision So I I guess as we think about the nuances of the language with that particular bullet I don't know how we can capture that and you know succinctly But I think it's really important as a value and as a approach to a really complex issue that I know we all Face and can sometimes be over generalized in one direction or another Thank you for the comment for the comment The action on this was to do what we just did provide you with feedback I don't believe there is an official action which needs to be taken unofficially. Thank you very very much long process Thank you so much Mr. Geiger good afternoon Sorry, I'm not so fast folks, but I did run under on my last comment I'm here to represent People on this petition. I'm going to submit to the clerk about 80 people from Delaware. I'm sorry. We're on public comment No, I'm sorry. I thought you heard you. Mr. Geiger. Let me let me clarify. I just can't control myself. Not a problem You do a pretty good job though I want to see if there's any any any further comment on the strategic plan anything Sure, please Good afternoon again. Yes. Good afternoon again jillian greenside I'm not usually a fan of strategic plans. However, there's some good things in here and I just like to Highlight a couple. I really is the word associate myself with council member bruner's Focus on open space. I think that really needs more focus Than the natural environment On behalf of so many people in the community Could we get rid of the term midtown? They call it the east side. It really great for a lot of us So I would very much Like to that to happen. I was really happy to see that In I couldn't get it or it's very hard to see actually the power point from the public's point of view But it was ensure that development is adequately balanced with Other things that I'm just looking at time. That is often Completely absent when we're talking about development new housing and growth I mean if you're trying to get an appointment with your dermatologist and you can't get one you've got to go over the hill All of those sorts of little personal things are tied with our expanding community Where we're bringing people in but we don't have the adequate resources people focus on water, etc Rightfully so I guess but it's the other thing So I hope you will take that to heart as you talk about development or approved developments I thought that was a great idea to reach out to the colleges to recruit workers for the city fabulous idea So where's time? What's there also? I've been doing that all day Time you're fine. Thank you Under public safety and community well-being That's was the area that I was disappointed in There are I think eight bullet points and two that I wrote down one is Establish or potentially establish an integrated health response team for the city That might be okay. The other one was determine the feasibility and funding of a regional public safety training center I'm not quarreling with those But what struck me especially after My focus really and what I shared with you was my concern about rape and domestic violence in our city And the ordinance that requires addressing that to be one of our highest priorities But that doesn't rate a mention under that category of public safety and community well-being So I'd ask if you could support having a statement in there That acknowledges that focus and address So, thank you very much. Thank you very much any other comments Person online good afternoon Yeah, hi, let's get it again. Hey, uh, my earliest remembrances of five-year plans were the communists who seem to have a five-year plan every two years But seriously, it is good to have a five-year plan But I don't really see that this is that it is mostly very vague at times a manifesto of beliefs knife sounding general ideas ideologies You know, uh, many of the uh, which are the socialist variety Actual five-year plans have objective quantifiable objectives such as reduced crime and potholes by 20 or complete the cip this or that and such Little here is measurable like none of it Not surprisingly the first plan strategy mentioned is about getting your hands on more money a lot more money i.e. Identifying creative expanded revenue approaches money money money without limit a vague smorgasbord of whatever you might do when it comes later Including support housing production for permanent supportive housing and low very low very low Housing which sounds like maximizing I'd say a vague out of your scope socialist subsidized welfare government housing plan And a deepening of this s pool of government dependence here locally Welfare is not a simple matter nor the city's function as far as I'd very reluctantly go is buying a very limited Specific amount of land preferably surplus government land and putting it into a permanent affordable housing trust to incentivize low-cost housing bills Beyond that it's just a huge no it's too socialist and caters to and invites poverty as it does I would also mention this BLM billboard has caused nothing but grief for two years and the lesson there is it wasn't a state I could go through virtually almost every directive here and not be able to say what specifically or exactly these words salads mean But provide services to people at risk of eviction to prevent homelessness seek community input to better define updated view of public safety Identify priorities need capital investment support climate adaptation You know the idea that current climate change goals will produce a rational Quantifiable betterment of the human condition is not an unquestionable fact and it needs a real slow go Sweden just announced today. They are abandoning renewable energy and they will go full nuclear Again, these are all easily hijackable issues like covid like many things Drive diversity equity inclusion efforts to strengthen sense of belonging You know it can In other words foster diversity and inclusion discrimination and trash merit to make people's lives somehow More equal despite the fact that they are undeniably just different and have responsibility for their own life Again, it's an easily and dangerously hijacked leftist mantra I missed the part where you ever figure out the right size and purpose for government state the limits what the government should or shouldn't do And including not do all in a sustainable way instead of this Thank you, sir. Good afternoon 30 31 that was that's the uh uh strategic plan I just want to talk a little bit about um, you know integrative um strategies for uh Let's see harm reduction to the natural environment Whether within or or surrounding the city and the green belt Parks developments But I was really surprised, you know, like I was really surprised to see a coyote in sky park up in scott's valley. I was like, wow This is this is this is really This is really earth shattering seeing a coyote running through sky park Um, yeah, I mean, maybe I just wasn't there when the coyote was around but Uh, they're you know, like, uh, yeah in terms of in terms of the variety of wildlife in the city in the in the The great, you know natural beauty that our county has You know, we have to realize that you know every every, you know tourists who dumps the diapers and the fast food Trash on the you know on the off the curb on the you know, just conveniently laying right out of their door That's something that in one or another ends up, you know, potentially affecting the balance of the natural life here in our In our in our city in our county So I I do Not unlike Miss miss brunner who I commend for her efforts. I do a lot of Clean up just you know, I get my hands dirty. I wash my hands a lot, but I get my hands dirty. I pick up a lot of stuff I see it I know I've talked a number of times about ocean street and how I feel ocean street Could be improved. It is sort of a keystone kind of place.  I just wanted to say I'm a I'm a big fan of public transit I'm a super client of public transit and uh I like the uh The shuttle, uh, it just stops at two few places if you ask me that thing could go all over It could serve all these intersections in the city different places county building ocean water It could go up to bay and laurel mission street safe way it could go over to Morrissey and so cal So cal and ocean you just go in a number of places in a in a kind of not too circuitous a circuit But like a circuit that serves a lot of the community and people it's just a dollar and it's a smaller bus It's manageable, you know, it's just for people, you know people's convenience. So no matter what level they're on I like it a lot. I like it a lot. I think it could be really expanded upon And I don't I don't even know what I'm doing here talking. Okay. Thanks. Bye Thank you very much appreciate anyone else online Next person online. Good afternoon Hi as regimizer again from Santa Cruz Cares. Um So I was uh supposed to get five minutes for this item So, yeah, let me just quickly talk about, um The public safety slide, uh, the bullet point determined feasibility and funding for a regional public safety center staff, uh, kind of skipped over this one, but Uh, this is kind of a big deal. Um You know, I don't know if you guys know about the atlanta Forests we lani forest Where they're doing a cop city as it's called um, a domestic urban warfare uh training center for police And given the proximity to the Santa Cruz mountain forests, uh, it feels like this is an attempt to do something similar here We will not accept that kind of project in our backyard Policing and prisons do not prevent crime or increase public safety. Our modern police are rooted in slave patrols and union busting We've been through the george floyd movement. You should all know this by now Their purpose is to maintain racial and class hierarchies Because that was their route It is not to ensure public safety That's why they can't be bothered to look at rape kits. That's why They're constantly Coordinating with anti-houseless neighborhood groups to selectively ticket poor people and vehicles That's why when we told scpd that they shouldn't ticket people based on illegal overnight parking signs in the coast Chief escalante told look out Santa Cruz if there's a parking sign we enforce it And then it required us to go to the coastal commission to stop them from doing that That's why when tomario smith died in our main jail Leading community members to ask for an oversight committee. Sheriff heart resisted that demand This is not good faith. This is not a training problem This is not something that you resolve through communication. This is a structural problem because of what police And prisons were originally Designed to do and therefore what they continue to be designed to do The safest communities are the most well-resourced With housing healthcare and education. They are not the most well policed And though those with the most resources for policing and imprisonment So we appreciate the bullet point In the public safety slide that says seek community input on an updated view of public safety Because that's what needs to happen here We cannot keep moving forward with this frankly anti-black anti-homeless anti-poor Perspective of public safety which upholds and invests more and more resources Into structures that were originally intended to segregate the poor people of color and Step on unions and break their backs The george floyd movement was not about that.  That was like That was something they tried to do the black visions collective. They burned down a police station, right? Like you know that happened. They didn't like although we kneeled with our police That was not what they were asking for. They tried all the different reforms. They have the black fem led intellectual tradition of abolition and also rooted in W. E. B. Du Bois So it's like this the information is there guys like This is to try to keep moving down this path of just deep deep Pretend like this is going to keep working for you. It's not. I mean I'm we're going to organize to stop any cop city you try to build here And we're going to organize to move forward an actual racial justice movement. Thank you Thank you. Anyone else who's with us in chambers anyone else online? Next person online. Good afternoon Hello, can you hear me? Yes Okay. Hi, my name is jasmine. Mia Um, I appreciate that there was a planning process overview in the strategic plan And I noticed places where I wish to see more transparency For example under council interviews who was interviewed the community survey only yielded 275 responses Which seems nowhere near reflective of the people's opinions It said the survey was made available on the city's social media channels Not everyone follows the city. So you already have a selection bias there Not everyone even has or can access social media. So you have an accessibility issue there I'd like to see more voices included in the feedback Next I was shocked to see a line item under public safety and community well-being that says quote determine feasibility and funding of a regional public safety training center That sounds like what at lanterns are calling cop city and reggie addressed this in his comment The people of atlanta do not want cop city and I doubt standard cruisans do either. I know I don't These training centers are often used to teach military strategies And uh, truly seem aimed at calling the masses when we exercise our right to protest It can even produce more violent tactics that get turned against our own citizens, especially black and brown ones like me um And as a personal note, I feel very unsafe around police. Um, and I'm physically traumatized almost all the time when I see them It scares me that you slipped in such a contentious line item How many people are actually reading everything in the proposed Strategic plan and how many people have shown up time and time again to ask you to defund police We don't need a training center You can't train your way out of a systemic imbalance of power that stands to uphold interests of the capitalist class Please use any money that would go to this training center to instead fund more social services like housing and mental health Which would help meet people's basic needs thereby preventing many crimes I'm pretty confident that social services will increase public safety more than a regional public safety training center All this being said, I'm highly offended about the idea of using a photo of the black lives matter mural as a photo for public safety Since the fight for safety for bypox needs to be an abolitionist one Following in the work of angela davis mariam kaba ruth wilson gilmore and more Also public safety is so synonymous with law enforcement Lastly, I agree with some of the comments that these goals are very vague And it seems like it will be hard to measure if or when they are met In fact, they do seem so all-encompassing. I don't see how they can be accomplished within five years if at all I would love to be part of further conversations on how to break these down into smart goals Specific measurable achievable reliable and time-bound Additionally, I agree with jillion that public safety and community well-being should include some commitment to the prevention of violence against women Especially after the presentation today. Thank you for listening to my feedback Thank you very much Anyone else miss bush Okay, next person online. Good afternoon Hello, this is joy shumble decker Also of santa cruz cares I support everything that reggie made in his comment to you As well as what jazz just commented I would like to point out that the comments about personal responsibility are Unhoused on our streets and in our shelters those comments are profoundly ableist and Don't recognize that Substance related and addiction disorders are recognized in the dsm 5 These are disorders They are chronic illnesses and they are treatable We have medically assisted treatment or medication assisted treatment and and Safe injection sites. We have harm reduction These are evidence-based research fact Widely accepted and effective ways of helping people who have addiction related disorders and personal responsibility and accountability In the way that I think you're talking about it. Correct me if i'm wrong I don't think comes into account very much in this We need to provide people with a social safety net and programs which we know are absolutely minimal in our county And in our city We do not have the treatment available for the people That I have heard comments echoed about here today That people need to be personally Um responsible We do not have the treatment available for them We do not have the housing available for them and everybody on this city council Including mayor kealy And everybody else except for councilmember brown Voted to send an amicus brief in support Of the lawsuit against the harm reduction coalition recently Vice mayor golder is part Of that lawsuit the sequel part was thrown out And now it's going forward as a public nuisance lawsuit This is like totally unacceptable when you wrap it all together So thank you for listening. I appreciate it. I would really appreciate being part of these kinds of conversations and stakeholder groups Thank you Thank you. Anyone else online? Let's go to the next person Good afternoon Good afternoon person online. Good afternoon council. Yes. Hi. This is judy grunstra And uh, I've got a quite a simple observation about this What is lacking in this plan? I also have been reading some strategic plans lately by the parks and rec commission Parks and rec department and the library everybody's coming out with these strategic plans that are vague and one thing that I Think is quite a simple Recognized need our public restrooms. I don't see anything about that in the parks and rec strategic plan Or this under you would think it would be under public safety and community well-being But it's been talked about a lot like how come we don't have you know enough public restrooms and I'd like to see that addressed somewhere. Thank you Thank you. Anyone else online miss bush? Excuse me No, all right Anyone else wish to testify? Matters back before the council. There is no recommended action except to hold this This discussion this afternoon We are on oral communication This would be the opportunity for anyone to address the city on a matter under our jurisdiction But not on today's agenda and good afternoon. Mr. Geiger After that, let me try that again, right? I've got some petitions here. Uh, these are people in the delaware lmar Woodrow area about 80 signatures about 95 of the people approach sign this This is in regard to the traffic diversion due to the west cliff drive unfortunateness So naturally everybody wants less cars on the street except perhaps auto mechanics But there are none here. I'm not here today. So they're not represented Oxford Way Had 600 cars a day. I believe was a study and it went up to 2000 And somehow that was deemed extremely Unacceptable by somebody somewhere in the bureaucracy because now they have barricades stopping cars from going through I think most of us would agree the intelligent way to approach a problem is to gather data Analyze the data and formulate some kind of a policy and at least see if it works I don't believe that was done in this case. As soon as west cliff was closed There was immediately detour signs sending people up to Delaware Avenue How come well, I've heard that it's well, it's an arterial Well arterials are main streets. Yes, but to get people from somewhat distant points This detour is like how you look at it either three short locks or one long block I think an arterial is irrelevant to the fact that the detour was sent up there This plan if it was a plan is in violation of the city's climate action plan It's causing unnecessary driving three blocks up three blocks back thousands of cars a day You're talking about some serious mileage by the end of the year But that's not the main problem here. The problem is actually a matter of life and death If you're familiar with Delaware Avenue You'll think about where the divided part going west ends and then you have to swerve over In front of councilmember golder's sister's house I believe they've lost three cars totaled in the last five years the neighbor's next to That's bad. That's really bad. But what's even worse is the bicycling At that point it disappears and people now are into the traffic And putting more traffic onto Delaware Avenue is increasing this hazard There's no reason to put more traffic on Delaware Avenue. This is where kids ride their bikes to school They don't ride down the other streets because it's not an arterial It would make more sense to put the traffic from west cliff on the closest streets to west cliff Thanks Thank you, mr. Geiger Let me see if anyone else wishes to comment on oral communication. Is there anyone online? Mrs. Bush Okay, very good and the clerk will be glad to accept those. Thank you, mr. Geiger. Good afternoon, sir um Let's see Let's see. Yeah, I just wanted to touch again on my I mean my thoughts on um A circulator and sand crews as opposed to you know, um, you know solely one that They have in in Watsonville, which is uh from every indication people have talked to you is really highly utilized It's it's very it's kind of a favorite of the community there in Watsonville um One thing I've I've noted from Going up to campus a lot is that A lot of people don't you know get off very often at the base of campus, but they do they do quite a few But if there were a bus some kind of bus that went just to the base of campus It would really facilitate that huge issue that students have about like they're not being enough buses um Because you know just take pressure off those those buses that they they do have Um, it's just a thought on that um But um, yeah, uh getting to the boardwalk itself. I guess one thing I guess I I mean, I guess I haven't kind of see why excuse me I'm eating some um I guess I can see uh why they don't don't go up beach street to the boardwalk itself like per se get to the boardwalk Um, but you know, I kind of feel like the circulator could could Um, as such, you know, it's administrated by her her professional administrative capacities It could probably serve, uh, you know, I think if I mean, it'll be nice if it served a few more stops I mean, I've talked to your drivers about that. They agree. I think um, you know seem to um Five minutes. Uh, have a great Have a great summer Anyone else online miss bush Anyone else who's with us? Good afternoon. Good afternoon at the risk of really being standing between human vacation I thought since I'm still here and it's oral communications. I'd share something which Um, I've shared in other places, but not here and it is first of all My guess is nobody has a plane at like five o'clock Take your time. You're good. Thank you. Um I like to echo the appreciation for the public work staff For moving ahead to fixing the damage on west cliff What has disturbed me is that that has not been The central thrust of all of this Uh, you know, that should be the story It was damaged from a storm. The storms are not, um, unprecedented Uh, the engineers said that the parts that really were damaged were because they were from the 90s and they weren't Fixed they didn't have maintenance the parts that were recent. Um riprap stood up well So the the end of that story is well, we've get federal money to fix this and fix it so We can withstand further storms But then there's a side show and the side show Is people who want to turn west cliff one way? I'm not one of them and there are a lot like me who don't want that And that has seemed to have captured a lot of city staff's attention and, um, consultants and public meetings and that stirs me because it feels like it is not the central issue and it was sort of almost symbolically Indicated at those public meetings in london nelson center When the public work staff was sort of at the back corner and the other presenters with their big bold ideas for 100 years in the future Had center stage and lots of, um, you know Bling to to share So I just hope we will be honest about this and keep centered on what is needed The road will be opened up for two way and then the situations that mr. Geiger mentioned Will go away. So I'm hoping that will be in our future. Thank you. Thank you very much Good afternoon We're gonna do we're gonna do you'll be right up after the somebody did call in Toggle back and forth. So good afternoon person online. Welcome Okay, this is good again Hey, this so-called workforce affordable housing should Apparently be called for what it is government price controlled subsidized welfare housing or public project housing Consider the end game where more and more parcels are subsidized and more gain welfare exempt property tax status Fewer and fewer people remain to be coercively forced to subsidize and more and more subsidized tenants neither pay for all their housing Nor for the city services. They consume it burns the economic candle at both ends Under what socioeconomic theory is an ever increasing welfare state a viable indicator the city is headed in the right direction It is defective equity or burning socialism or anarcho c to rich because what it is not is free market capitalism without monopolies You suggest we belieffully gush over expensive city software showing us the constantly growing parcels of price control subsidized welfare housing Instead of seeing it as spreading economic decay and the deepening cesspool of government dependence Big surprise. I've not received my email invitation to any further public meeting of the welfare housing initiative That's okay. It was a poser convention all around I've wondered if someone like in oceans 11 would get the empty home tax gang back together for one more caper Or how many people who don't live here or will pay is involved So far who they are is a mystery last meeting the socialists were out in the forest Regurgitating the immoral real estate transfer tax. I assume they drool while contemplating its direct death nature High jacking the valid purpose of attacks intended to cover actual minor Documentary costs knowing very well it will never apply to them The very few cities that do this are cities were rising crime in moral and economic decline in the east bay in san francisco We all have helped just rank san francisco dead last in the nation as to how well run of big city is Thank you, sir Good afternoon Mayor and council, my name is grant wilson I guess I've been coming sporadically to city council meetings since I moved here in the 1980s Um, and I feel a bit of frustration about the structure and process Because I've come I've tried to come to speak at oral communications. I think Maybe two other times in the past two or three months But I would find that well, it's it's actually unclear when oral communications happens and to me It's very frustrating because I think at least maybe for 20 years or more It was always at 7 p.m. At the start of the meeting that to me seems good because it allows Working families working people who have jobs to be able to get home from work and be able to come and speak And I know sometimes it's frustrating Sometimes you don't hear pleasant things by from the public, but that's the democratic process That's the process of representing the community You have to hear people who don't agree with you or don't like you or whatever But I think by putting oral communications at an arbitrary time I mean I called the you know the city council office today to ask well What time does it happen? Well, they certainly couldn't tell me. I don't think any of you could tell me It's just when the other agenda items are done. And that's To me, that's just not very democratic. That's not very transparent. That's not, uh, that doesn't allow people to come and speak and I feel like that's Evading your responsibilities as elected representatives. So I would implore you and encourage you to Shift it back to a time where the public could actually speak and could plan on speaking So Thank you. Welcome Stay here for just a second Customarily, we don't respond by which I know that an informational piece for you earlier in our agenda today on item nine There were a whole series of sort of technical issues and so on some of which were moderately substantive And the council on the issue that exactly the issue you're raising Pulled that item gave direction to the city manager and to me to meet and Look exactly at this issue about when does oral communication happen for the reasons you're talking about it So thank thank you for for bringing that to our attention And also Let me ask if there is anyone else online Anyone else anyone else with us? And was there a Certainly miss brooner um a question on Um The the whole detour sign Uh item that was brought up in oral communications and I understand public works has been working on that And there are updates to that um Can someone tell me at in city staff where that information where the public can find that information um for the most recent updates with detours and the whole um You know, uh oxford cul-de-sac pelton wood row almar delaware alta pelton delaware And all of those signage because we've we've all received a lot of concerns Regarding those impacts and and while I understand it is temporary as they're working through that I think it would be good to just publicly say where those and that updated information can be found for folks I can answer that There's all I just I get I get emails and phone calls daily. I think maybe more than any of us Because of where my district is there's a website and um, it's on the city of santa cruz Website and they're in the title of the page is west cliff storm damage and temporary traffic controls And there's a bunch of links on there where you can find up-to-date information and claire and matt have been really responsive to the neighbors Going out and meeting with neighbors and responding to their emails and questions as they come up And so, you know, I've been really impressed with their professionalism and the level of customer service that they're giving to those neighbors and it hasn't solved all the problems and so We have a meeting scheduled after the 4th of july where we're meeting up with city staff again and Kind of figuring out next steps and circling back with neighbors after mid july probably Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all very much for the business to come before the council Ms. Bush for their action we need to take mr. City attorney Someone's hand did go up all good here. Excuse. I'm sorry one more hand just went up if you want to oh online Okay, we'll we'll take one more one more Good afternoon Person online. Good afternoon. Yes. Good afternoon I'm going to give you three more one two three Sorry about that. Uh, whoever was online, uh, we'll we'll talk to you in august. I suspect All business having finished. I'll just use the the prerogative of the presiding officer to say this is uh ends up my first six or seven months on this council and I want to thank colleagues for your kindness and thoughtful approach to your civic responsibilities here as elected officials to miss bush who even with Diminished number of staff people here performed heroically again today. So thanks to you and your Wonderful staff in the city clerk's office city manager City attorney all the staff of the city of santa cruz Thank you so much for the first half of this year being one of a lot of hard work and a lot of Progress in various areas and thank you all very much. We all I believe wish everyone here Happy summer vacation for a while and we'll see you again at the beginning of of august A motion to adjourn would be in order the vice mayor moves Every member of the city council seconds, but we will designate mr. Newsom as the official second on that non debatable those in favor signify by saying aye Opposed motion carries and so ordered happy summer


Hello everyone, my name is Leon Romanski and I'm coming from Mellanox and in this talk I will present how Mellanox provided a development environment for Linux kernel developers to do the development and testing inside Docker containers. This project was started by actually two people, me and Jason Ganthorpe, both of us are very associated with RDM sub-system. Jason Ganthorpe is an external maintainer in RDM sub-system. He is responsible to send patches to the managly, to the linus and to review managly. I'm in kernel to Mellanox maintainer, which means that everything that goes outside from Mellanox towards RDM sub-system both kernel and both user space are passing through me. It means that we do a lot of reviewing, but being maintainer it's not only to do review, it's also to develop and just to present the amount of patches which we both handled, I added statistics from 2018. So in average, both of us submitted something like handle, developed and reviewed, only what was visible approximately two or three patches every day, the amount of patches which were tested in-house, reviewed in-house, slightly bigger. So we wanted to do the same amount of work as we do both of us without any trouble and without any delay. So at the beginning we started to think what is the perfect solution from our point of view. The perfect solution is developers should not be aware about the difference of operating system. The difference of operating system doesn't mean that linus can be developed, it should not need to know about the operating system, but I mean that sometimes from operating system, one distribution to another distribution is something brave. For example Fedora 30 by default doesn't bring interfaces, while Fedora 29 worked perfectly. Fedora 26 worked perfectly with Serial Console, but Fedora 27 provided broken Serial Console. And we actually don't expect from our developers to be aware of such subtle things and we wanted to remove this burden from them, so it was perfect. And our important thing from our perspective is we wanted to bring latest development environment. Latest development environment means the latest GCC, latest C-Land, latest snatching, latest sparks. And usually from what we saw, developers are installing something with some operating system on their computer, it can be on laptop, it can be on their server, and from that point they don't upgrade anything. So we actually saw people who started with Red Hat 6 and 5, Red Hat 5, Red Hat 7, and it is nice, but it's not good for general development at all. Because these distributions have a variation, GCC and GCC don't catch a lot of errors, which simple completion of modern distribution can't catch. And our important thing for us, as I mentioned, it's supposed to be work on every machine. Because when we are talking about scale and we are talking about many developers, these many developers have a lot of different operating system. It can be like I said, Red Hat, it can be Ubuntu, it can be Fedora, and we don't want to limit anyone and choosing operating system for what we would like. We also want to, because the current developers almost are doing it's constantly writing code, building code, and testing code, writing building code. So it means what this loop of writing code there should be as fast as possible. It means we don't want it to be actually not installing code, installing our kernel to test it. So all solutions which requires virtual machine and after that boot into Vintro machine, compile inside Vintro machine, compile outside Vintro machine, run make modules, install make install inside Vintro machine, doesn't work fast. Because it actually slows our development. So our perfect solution should work without any installation, without directly from source. Because at the end, all development is around source and patches, and we don't want to change anything. Extra thing, because we are talking about ability to run anywhere, me and Jason are traveling a lot. So we need the ability to run our CI system without any internet, without any connection to the outside world. So we brought CI into the system. I forgot to mention, actually everything that I'm going to present here is available in our repository. Open source, everyone can see, everyone can change. So it's not something that we are trying to hide. Because CI, it means that we also need to provide fast build. No one wants to compile this kernel and wait for results minutes and diamonds. So a fast implementation of build process, which takes into account the fact that we can use CC cache, or we can properly understand the number of CPUs and believe me or not, but in real life scenario, when you are drowning between servers, you're not always familiar how many CPUs exist in this specific server. And in case you are missing the number of CPUs, you want to fully utilize your server. So is it possible? Is it impossible? So, as I said, an ideal, very ideal world, like how verification is what we are living in this world, developer writes only once, builds only once, and tests only once, everything works perfectly. At least for me, it doesn't work. I constantly do, I always make mistakes. My code never compiles from version 0. It never works from version 0 too. Usually it doesn't work from version 100. So I need this loop very fast. We try to take a look on different solutions. Everyone who is learning Docker and learning kernel, is now creating his own Docker container to build kernel. But most of them are not using anything smart, like a CC cache. But let's put aside, we have plenty Docker containers to compile kernel. We have less QMU run inside Docker. One of the most known QMU runners is called Birkney. Birkney doesn't run QMU inside container. It means that once you will run it in scale, you will hit different problematic behavior with a different QMU. Different operating system, different situation. It also has a very important limitation, at least for us. But Birkney uses a busy box to run anything. But our customers run real operations system. It means that our verification runs real operating system. It means that we as a developer should also run real operating system. We cannot allow for us to run a busy box, something that is connected from the rest of the company. It wouldn't allow us to reproduce bugs with the actual development. And also because we are coming from argument, from department, it is also extremely hard to put argument inside the busy box. Extra runner, which is also known, it's called Docker QMU. And Docker QMU is almost perfect before, except one thing. Docker QMU runs virtual machine, runs QMU together with virtual machine. So you need to create virtual machine image. And every time you update internal, you need to create, maybe recreate, maybe reinstall. And it actually loses the whole point of running of cloud solution. And definitely plenty of options to run precompiled kernel, but not actually the whole holistic solution of how to take from source to running kernel altogether. So as I said, everything is available on GitHub. I need to warn you because our main focus was to provide for Melon developers. This repository contains some specific Melon of code. It is not many Melon of code. It's only the place where we are storing precompiled images of containers and how we are grabbing source from our internal depositors. Everything else more or less general and common. The architecture itself is pretty simple. Because to make a simple solution, you actually need to provide something simple. It's based on three layers. First layer, whatever you want, it's called hypervisor. You have already existing server where you have already stored your source code. It means what you don't need to change anything. The storing of this server, your code, you will run your editor on the I or click whatever works for you. The store on this hypervisor, on this server, built artifacts and blocks. The second layer, it's actually run a simple Python script that tries to hide complexity of running Docker and providing different parameters to the Docker. And run an image to create images from Docker files in case you don't have access to precompiled images and Melon that always has access to precompiled images. You can create all these images by yourself by simply writing a simple command. Like empty images and it magically creates all images locally. So this is why I said it's not a big deal because we have Melon of specific code. It has run it to actually run QMU in your machine. It's CI to check your patches. And when I'm saying CI, I'm meaning static analytics. And build to build smart build project. We are not only interested in build kernel, we do develop QMU. We do a lot of work on IP route, RDMA core, which is a supplementary part of RDMA. RDMA subsystem has its own kernel part and user space part which is called RDMA core and it's not possible to work without corresponding part. And the fourth layer is actually container. At the end we do only two operations, compile or run. So we need only two containers. One is to compile CI, it's the same compilation, the same CI, the same build operation and the run container. Intellection itself is pretty neat. All what you need, go to the repository, download it and put it on your path. After you will put it on your path, you will have a number of simple commands. First command is called setup. And setup itself does Melon of specific thing which may or may not you will not need, you probably wouldn't need it. It install Docker C because we cannot rely on Docker inside operating system and we found what Docker inside operating system. It's pretty unusable. It brings sources and it updates machine to latest, with latest updates it just was my personal decision to make updates to everyone actually. And fourth thing which setup is doing, it's taking configuration file in places into your home directory. So because we are working with NICs, sometimes we have different setups and not only one machine, we have a number of machines. But we don't want to run on every machine compilation. So we are providing setup and master combination which actually creates NFS share on master which is read only for all slaves and connect the slaves to it. So it allows you as a developer to develop only on one machine without need to actually copy paste any artifacts. Because we are using very small and very controlled kernel, it works pretty well on NFS too. So I said what we do, what we have container for compilation. We need it for CI, we need it for built and we need it for another third thing. Third thing it's called support application. Sometimes you want to bring something bleeding edge. You don't want to rely on Fedora specific repository. For example, here I'm bringing smatch with specific git repository. What I'm writing shell script which is shell script, pretty simple shell script which package smatch and creates RPM. It brings from specific repository, specific tag and applies specific patches after that to create image with specific version of this support package. For example, we are bringing special version of smatch, special. We are bringing upstream version of smatch just to be sure what once in a week, two, I'm updating this file to bring the latest and greatest smatch and sparse. Smatch sparse and we're also bringing latest Selang because Selang 9 is not available yet in Fedora and so on. Build code, it's actually pretty easy. First of all, you need to configure properly CC cache. Unfortunately, most of our developers didn't know about CC cache or didn't configure it properly. So this itself, CC cache brings a lot of performance gain for recompilation and because the same CC cache you are using for your CI, it also gives you pretty fast performance for CI and for built itself. These built scripts properly understand on which project you are working. You can go to IP route to, CD to IP route to your source director of IP route to, run MKT built and MKT built will build your IP route to with proper flags and proper, properly to be used inside this container. The thing which actually makes compilation fast, it's small config file because MKT is actually full solution from the beginning till the end. We have full control over configuration file over all components of kernel which we will use. It means that we set everything to know enabled only Virtio, Virtio 9p and Virtio PCI because we are actually relying very heavily on Virtio PCI. Enable debug options for kernel debug. In this case, we enabled Melanox specific to be able to run Melanox specific nicks and that's all. That's something which actually provided the most visible gain to the compilation. This config it's too strict but I think it's not possible to use in VM as well. So it's only in such control environment where it can actually control everything. This is the example of me running MKT build on my kernel and it takes pretty small amount of time. Because of CI testing which is also the same build container, it means that we're running all together with extra warnings, running smatch, running sparse, running ceiling. Once you will run on your kernel, it will produce a lot of noise, a lot of warnings. For example, smatch on our subsystem provides something, smatch and sparse something like 600 warnings or errors which mostly, I'm not saying false around but it's hard to distinguish between what is important. You need to actually differentiate between what is relevant and what is not. So very naive solution will be let's run it twice.  But it's very naive solution and it complicates and it also provides complexity of understanding which line introduced because all lines changed and it also doubles compilation time. So our solution was pretty different. We are running only once and we, after that, filtering all messages and we running git blame to understand if these messages actually belongs to the lines which patches we added touched that line. It is not bullet proof but at least for now, it avoids any report from kernel build, from zero build. So from our perspective, it works pretty well. But we are aware of possibility to miss errors. Extrafink, which also allows us to run CI very effectively, we are taking a look on diff start of specific patch and see on which folder this patch is supposed to be applied and we are running only this folder. kernel make provides an option to run only on folder and you don't need to run everything. So run flow, it's also pretty stressful. We do want for our developers something simple, something what we run without any extra parameters and we get default and decent behavior. Because I talked about it before, we don't want people to run VM. So inside QMU, we are actually creating links back to hypervisor, back to the location of your models instead of installing these models. So here is an example of some of the models which actually linked back to my hypervisor and this is an example of how it looks inside QMU, inside virtual machine. We can skip it. Simple configuration file. So how do we do it? The main thing and this is something what I didn't find in any GitHub repository that I tried to look before. We actually do it, we are relying on the fact that we are running QMU inside Docker and once you are running Docker, you already have a proper virtual image because it's based on something. It means what we don't need to provide to create for QMU and our extra virtual image, we need to instruct QMU, use image from Docker file. So it means we need to mount as a preparation step for executing QMU inside Docker and Docker when it starts and enters into entry point and this entry point is pretty large Python script which does, first thing, mount a root file system. It creates system defiles because we already mounted, we can create on this mount point system defiles to mount folders from hypervisor which were passed by runners to the image, to the container image. The system defiles will be visible later on by QMU to mount them inside QMU. We configure QMU to work and pass through file system mode. There is something, I don't know if it's common knowledge or not but it took me a while to find it. So you can actually configure QMU to work with pass through file system and boot into QMU. Because we configured the pass through, it will go back to the Docker container. So at the end, it's only three commands to be executed. One is mount and second command is specific parameter to QMU to avoid creation of VM image. So in this way, we actually avoided creation of VM image and installation and whole installation of kernel inside of it. The network itself, it's pretty complicated because we have two type of interfaces. First interface is called managing interface. The one which you will connect with SSH or the one which you want to go outside of your network and here comes something specific. We do rely on the fact that on your machine BR0 bridge 0 is already configured as an interface outside. In case it's not configured, you will get local IP address, local host address which will still allow you to go and to connect with SSH but actually it's pretty easy to configure BR0. And the second type of interfaces are the interfaces which we are actually testing. And because we are network company, there is a catch in testing interfaces inside kernel. In case you have a number of PCI devices which actually connected with external link, kernel will know what these devices are inside one kernel and will not send packets outside of kernel and will reroute all packets inside kernel. But this is something that we don't want to test. We want to test actual other devices and we want to be sure what all our packets are going outside of external link and goes back through external link despite the fact that these devices are running on one kernel. So the solution is also both simple and complicated. We decided to go with routing table with a number of solutions. One of the common solution is to use namespaces but because we are coming from RDMA subsystem, unfortunately namespaces doesn't work well with RDMA traffic and also namespaces has a complexity of actual executing command to execute in different namespaces and we need to run IP exec and the name of namespaces so it complicates all the development flow all the testing and so on. So routing table, it's the way to go. I'm here simply posted how it's supposed to be done just as a reference. First of all, we need to disable different routing modes like RP, like ARP. This is an example just for two nicks. We need to configure routing table to be sure what this routing table allows passing through different interfaces. We need to change priority and need to flash cache. After that, all your pinks will actually send packets outside of the var. This code is not yet part of repository because I wanted to add something generic not only for two devices. Hardware support is pretty easy. It's actually a very simple thing. Everything inside our images is based on virtual IPC. It means all what we need is to unbind from real device on hypervisor, bind to VFI and provide and send to KMU with password and password mode. So as I said, everything is available online and we would really like to create this tool to be more generic when it's now. Simply join us, help us, and we will help you back. Any questions? Okay. Thank you.


We are going to share learning time management and we are to talk about different points which were enhancing our time limits and productivity regarding time management for learning, for changing over behavior and also the performance. First of all we are to talk about we are to take some time when we are planning, we are scheduling and we should spend some time in it and we should get some time for review, we should get some time for accumulation of different activities and we should get some time to do things at the very near time. And then it is that they have to complete the quality and we are to not wait for the deadlines but we are to meet the deadlines while we are organizing and managing those things with the help of potential of flexibility and performing the things within the limits. In this we have to see how much work we can do and how much space we can get in time and how we can accomplish our task which is very useful and we are also to prevent something that is not useful. That is not productive in our activity of performance. And in that we should use some material or we should use resources which can be useful for us so we should definitely use it, we should definitely think about it, we should definitely add things to update it. And then what is the mod of productivity? How low is our level? So we should take ourselves towards improvement, just to complete the thing, just to finish the things, it is not the target, the target is to get improved situation and being more better and better with the passage of time. And in this we can also use the help of technology. In this we have a lot of time management, we can use different devices also, daily management and then we have bit by bit timers to alert and to get different significant implications and also signs of alertness during our task. And along with that it is useful that we are becoming accomplished, we are becoming satisfied, we are to be more active for the new activity. In that our focus should be on time limits and we can also see that if we have reduced the time limits then we can review things and reduce our distractions and this will lead us towards the management of the good time. That is to say we are trying to execute and perform our tasks, we are finishing the distractions and we are increasing our time spaces, that is to say to ensure productivity. There are a lot of abilities, a lot of habits in which we reinforce ourselves, we are learning from others and that is leading us towards the success. And in this small chunks of rewards and successes are also very important, which we recognize in our task, we are seeing them. Thank you very much for being a good listener.


Hi, my name is Seymour Kazimurski. I host a show called Seymour's World on Think Tech Hawaii. You can find all my shows and commentaries on the Think Tech Hawaii website or on YouTube. Today's topic is Don't Get Old, Get Bold. We all learn as we get older that rules are made to be broken. Be bold enough to live life on your terms and never ever apologize for it. Go against the grain, refuse to conform, take the road less traveled instead of the well-beaten path. Laugh in the face of adversity and leap before you look. Dance as though everybody is watching. March to the beat of your own drubber and stubbornly refuse to fit in. One of the best jokes I have heard about getting old was from George Carlin. I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a lot more as they get older. And then it dawned on me they're cramming for their final exam. Is that us? Our ideas about aging and what it means to be over 50 or 60 or 90 seem to be stuck somewhere back in the middle of the 20th century. We still consider 65 or 55 in some sectors as standard retirement age, and we expect everyone to start slowing down and moving aside for the next generation as their age ticks past the half-century mark. No way, not me and not you. Let's stand up. Let's dance. Let's do what we always wanted to do. Let's shatter that myth about aging. How can we live the life we want rather than the one that's prescribed for us? So let's get practical. If you find yourself on the AARP side of 50 and you don't want to follow the path laid down for you by society's expectations, here are seven things you can do to age like a fine wine or a great violin versus a can of diet coke or a cheap car. Number one, think about yourself. As we get older, many of us have the luxury of choice for the first time. When you don't have so many things and people clamoring for your attention on a daily basis, you can think about what you'd like the rest of your life to look like. Want to keep working? Figure out how to make that happen on your terms. Want to stop working? Figure out how to make that happen on your terms. Want to create some new version of work, not work? Figure out who you get the idea.  Get clear about what you love and what you're good at and make a life that you truly want to live. Number two, wear purple and pink. I love this because I'm colorblind. My iPad covers purple and my travel bag is pink, so don't tell me I can't do what I want to do. They are beautiful colors to me, so that's it. One of the truly great things about getting old is that you can in ways subtle and grand thumb your nose at convention with fewer consequences than when you were younger. My kids roll their eyes at some of my choices, but they aren't the deciding voice. I am. Number three, use everything. Most traditional cultures revered older people as the carriers of wisdom and the archivists of the groups, knowledge and experience. In the modern world, not so much. We tend to assume that any knowledge older people have is outdated or downright irrelevant and to dismiss the value of their contributions. You, however, can think differently about this. You can value what you bring to the party. You've amassed a great deal of experience, skill and knowledge that isn't time-sensitive. How to deal with people? How to get stuff done? How to navigate complex environments? How to teach others and support their success? An age also often brings a specific kind of wisdom. When you've seen and heard and experienced a lot, if you're a reasonably reflective person, you're going to be able to extract some useful patterns from all that living and offer those insights to those around you. You'll probably tend to be less reactive and to be more interested in hearing what other people have to say. Even if others dismiss you, don't dismiss yourself. Bring all that your life has taught you to everything you do and you'll be able to use it to accomplish great things for many years to come. Number four, be a novice. At the same time, one of the most critical ways to stay vital as you get older is to consciously immerse yourself in learning new things. The least interesting and most calcified older people I know are those who find a comfortable spot and burrow in doing the same things, having the same conversations, expressing the same opinions. You know what? Make a commitment to yourself to learn something entirely new on a regular basis.  For instance, can I really jump out of an airplane? It's daunting and energizing and I can feel my synapses firing on a daily basis. Number five, believe what's true. People assume all kinds of things about people over 50, 60, 70. That we can be powerful. Yes, we can. That we don't like social media. Yes, we do. That we're not sexy. Yes, we are. For example, I feel smarter, healthier, more vital, creative, and open than at any previous point in my life. Whether or not anyone else believes that's true or even possible, I'm choosing to believe my own experience versus what others tell me I ought to be experiencing. I suggest you do the same. Number six, keep good company. I regularly spend time with people who are my age, older than me, younger than me, and a lot younger than me.   But the best thing is this, keeping company with smart, engaged, curious, loving, funny, kind people of all ages makes me feel as young as them. One of my favorite things to do is to play tennis with someone 20 or 30 years younger than me. Whether I beat them or not is not important. I compete it. I do sometimes cheat to win. That's a privilege of old eyes and old age. Number seven, have a lot of fun.  And if anyone looks at you, as scant as you're giggling uncontrollably or whooping with glee, just let them know this is what getting older really looks like. My name is Seymour Kazimurski. I host a show called Seymour's World on Think Tech Hawaii. You can find all my shows and commentaries on the Think Tech Hawaii website or on YouTube.


But Oliver, darling, what difference does it make if Mr. Harkness caught a perch or a bass? There's a lot of difference. But, Pop, Mr. Harkness said it was a bass. I said it was a perch. Harkness never caught a bass. Listen, Oliver, what difference does it make? It makes a lot of difference. But it didn't have any stripes, Pop? Probably too young to have them. Oliver, please. Uh-oh, here we go again, folks. Well, this whole thing started when Oliver came home with some new fishing tackle to use tomorrow on a fishing trip. Mr. Harkness and neighbor brought home a couple of fish, and Junior thought it was quite a feat of skill. The whole thing now has dissolved into who is going, when they're going, and where they're going. Now, it's time to go back to the fishing trip. And Junior thought it was quite a feat of skill. The whole thing now has dissolved into who is going, when they're going, and where they're going. No one seems to agree. So, as usual, Oliver Anderson is trying to sell them and the idea of going where he wants to go. There, now you see this map? Roads are good and the lake won't be crowded. But it's so far, Oliver. Why don't we just go down to the river? What?  Not me. This is going to be a fishing trip out for the big ones. What's this big imitation minnow for, Pop? Oh, what? The green one there? Yeah. It says shore lure for pickerel. Pickerel? There aren't any pickerel around here, Oliver. Oh, doesn't hurt to have a plug for them in case we run into one. But three dollars, Pop. Three dollars? For that? Oliver, you told me the whole thing would be over 250. Leave the rest of that stuff alone, Junior. And if you see any more price tags, just be still. Okay, Pop. This little green line here, 15 cents. Is it a stringer, Pop? No. That's for you. For me? Yeah. Gee, I don't want to go and just watch a piece of string. It's the only way to learn, Junior. Now you just watch me. I don't know. Maybe you and Homer better just go on alone. Homer's going, isn't he? I don't know. I haven't checked with Martha yet. Oh, Mrs. Meister's in a swell mood, Pop. Mr. Meister brought home a pair of slacks for her yesterday. Slacks? On Martha? Uh-uh-uh. Little pictures have big ears, Oliver. I know. Were the slacks yellow? Yeah, Pop. How did you know? Oh, I saw her pulling weeds out in the backyard and I thought someone had driven up in a yellow cab. Oliver, that's not funny. I thought it was. I'll go, Mom. Never mind. I'll get it myself. Probably Martha wanting to show off her new slacks. Oh, Homer. Come on in. Okay, stay with the minute, Mary. Come here, Homer. You want to see some real tackle? Oh, good. I thought you'd back out on the trip. Oh, hi, Mr. Meister. Well, well, hello, sonny. Got them worms all dug. Oh, coffee jar full. Oh, that's the boy, Dave Nevitt. If you want it done right, turn it over to Junior. Now, Junior, five o'clock in the morning comes mighty fast. You get to bed. Five o'clock? Oh, okay. Gee, do we have to sneak up on them in the dark? Were you worried I wasn't going tomorrow, Homer? Well, it sure was. This trip cost me a pair of slacks and a pair of wedges. And I still ain't sure I'm going. Hmm, bribery never gets you anywhere, Homer. Oh, don't, eh? Oh, you just don't know, Homer. Oh, me. Hmm. Well, let's see. We should leave about 5.30, right? Oh, it's kind of early. We can drive there in 30 minutes. 30 minutes? Look, look, if you drive that car of yours there in 30 minutes, you're going alone, brother. Well, Shock, Round Lake's only 12 miles. We're not going around Lake. We're going to Square Lake. Ain't no fish in Square Lake. And you're not allowed to fish in Round Lake. Shall I slip a coin? No, no, no coin. It's my car, and I'm going where I want to go for once. But, Homer, it's against the law to fish in Round Lake. Not for me. Been fishing there for nine years now. Well, Homer ought to know, Oliver. Look, look, I like to be a grill, but I also like to fish. No, sir. It's Round Lake or nothing, Dagnevitt. Well, for me, it's Square Lake.  This is going to be no trip for a woman and a little boy. Isn't the toast ready yet? Good heavens take your time, Oliver. Only one person. It's only ten minutes after five. Is coffee supposed to boil? Boil? Of course not. Well, you'd better start another potful. This one's boiling. Boiled or no boiled. It's the last of the coffee. No. Well, it hasn't boiled long. It's still pours. I wonder we haven't awakened Junior with his noise. He doesn't want to go anyhow, not to Square Lake. I thought Homer said he was going to Round Lake. Well, if he does, we make two trips. Well, now what was that? The door. That you, Homer? It's me, Mom. It is I. It is not. It's Junior. Oh. You up already? Sure. I've been helping Mr. Meister push his car. Started? Oh, sure. I didn't know you wanted to go, Junior. Well, Homer acting the way he does. Gee. You mean I'm not going, Pop? Well, I thought maybe... Of course you're going, Junior. Gee, you have me fooled, Pop. I thought you meant it. Yeah. Well, is everything ready? Mr. Meister is waiting for you now. How does he act? All right to me. Well, let's not rile him up again. Is Martha going with Homer? Now, wait a minute. No, Mrs. Meister isn't going. Mr. Meister says women make too much noise. They do, huh? Now, wait, Mary. You can go to a show this afternoon. You know, Oliver, when we started planning this, I was to go along. I know that, Mary. And I don't think I'm going to let Homer have his own way for once. Spoiled man. Well, you know I'm willing. That's fine. Then I'll get ready. Get ready? But we're all ready to start now. I won't be over five minutes. Oh. Gee, Pop, five minutes. And Mr. Meister is already angry. Let's get started. All right. Just keep your mac and a... I don't care. Well, sure be your leaf, not have Martha along. Women are bad luck fishing. Oh, they are, huh? Yeah, we're sure they gab too much. Gab, gab, gab. Well, let's go, Pop. Uh, yeah. Just a minute. Homer wants to let the car warm up a bit. Hey, she's all warmed up. And if we don't pull out now, there ain't no use in going. Well, look, shouldn't we put a little more air in this rear tire, Homer? It's a long trip. But we ain't going to Square Lake. We're going to Round Lake. Look, Homer, we go fishing to catch fish, right? Look here, it's my car, and I'm going to Round Lake. I'm all ready. What, what'd she say, Oliver? What? She said she's ready. Oh. See? It doesn't take long. Shall we go? You're getting back with me, Mom. No, no, no. You keep that stuff from falling. Well, now look here, Oliver. Quiet, quiet, quiet. Look, Mary. I'll sit in front, and you can sit on my lap. Now, Oliver, you said we were... Quiet. Come on. Let's get in. Oh, crowded. Oh, would you be comfortable there? Are you kidding? Yeah, it's going to be a pretty big load, Oliver. Oh, come now.  Climb in. If you can find room, and I'll guide you from this side. Just sit tight now, and I'll open this gate. That makes three gates. Look, Oliver, that sign on the gate. Trespassers will be prosecuted. I can read. Well, we're just being time to greet the sun. This gate, Oliver. It's clear sailing now, right down to the dock. That gate had a sign on it. Trespassers will pay the full penalty of the law. Oh, that. Oh, gosh, that's been there for years. Hey, there we are. Round Lake. Oh, dang, never didn't she pretty.  Just a minute, I can't do everything. Oh, boy, let me get my tackle on. Wait a minute. Don't tangle all the lines up. Take it easy. Well, there's no need of spoiling the trip for Junior. Well, I'm not. I want a fish, too. Oliver, that cabin up from the dock. Yeah, probably abandoned. Well, if it is, they left the fire going. There's smoke. Well, now let's not spoil a day with willy-nilly talk. OK, Homer, here's Round Lake. You have what you wanted. Shall we fish? Yep, yep, yep. You just follow me now. Right down this path. That sun isn't going to be too bright either. Yeah, fish bite better that way. Mom, I got caught for this hook. Oh, now what?  We'll catch up. You know something? Women don't belong on no fishing trip. I don't see why. What's wrong with it? Well, men ought to be alone sometimes. Yeah, but when you tell them they can't do this and they can't do that, you're apt to be alone a long time. Well, of course, I don't want to argue, nun. I ain't the argument. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. Ah, boy, here we are. Oh, dagnabbit, look at that clear water. Ate even a ripple. I sure wish I was younger so I could enjoy it longer. Well, that makes a lot of sense. Well, let's bait up. Well, maybe we better use grasshoppers for bait. I see. We have worms, but you want to use grasshoppers. Got 15 of them in this jar. Only thing to catch bass with. OK, you ought to know. Gee, water's only four feet deep. Yep, got to throw all the waves. Well, here she goes. Ah, rail's working perfect. Well, here's what we've been waiting for. Let's get your line in. And keep quiet like a hand me a grasshopper homer. Caught anything pop on his bike? Shush, shush, shush, dagnabbit.   I'll watch it for you. Oh, that's no fun. Shhh. Hey, there's one eye in the bait. Oh, give me room, give me room. There is no room. Not even enough room for the two of us to sit out here on the pier. Here, Junior.  Quiet. Why? Someone's sick? No, but it wouldn't take much to make homer that way. Hey, hey, he's nosing the bait. No, no. Now watch out for action. I'll get in the robot pop. Out of the way. Oh, now there's two of them. Oh, watch everything now. Wait, Junior. Don't jump in the boat. Junior, hang on. Oh, grab him all over. Junior, watch out! Take it. Now they're both in. Here, Mary. I went after them, but I got them a good pants on. A good pants only up to her waist. Stand up, Mary. It's not deep. Here, take this oar. I'll grab it when I hand it to you. Hey, someone's coming from the cabin and coming fast. Okay, let them come. Now, Mary, grab this oar. Junior can stand up. Be quiet.  I was doing no such thing. I've seen what a seener did. He's my mother and there's Mary.  I'm not hitting her with an oar. I can make it, Oliver. Now, you're both okay. Madam, my name is Crumpet. Senator O.C. Crumpet. My cabin's right out there, Yonder.  Oh, I couldn't think of it. Now, that's all right. All right. Don't you be afraid. Nobody's going to bother you, none. Sure, the one who bothers us. Well, no now, lady. And I'll handle this vomit here would hit you with that oar. Now, back to the Andersons. Homer Meister, the man next door, has taken the Andersons around Lake to Fish, regardless of the no trespassing signs on the gates. Just as they started to fish, Junior fell in the water and Mary fell in trying to get him out. The water was only waist deep, so no harm was done. A pretty tough character showed up to see Oliver helping Mary out with an oar and thought he was beating her with it. Well, shall we join them? I'm slowly freezing to death, Oliver. Well, gee, honey, you're just going up to my cabin and dry out. Ain't nobody going to bother you at all. I got some talking to do with this fellow here. That's you, Pop. I know it.  I'll fish a pile. If I need your alcohol. Okay, Mary. You get that young and warmed up a bit. I'm okay. Thanks. He's polite, young one. That's the way he should be. Hey, where'd that other fellow get to? Oh, Homer? He went back to the car. He likes it quiet when he fishes. Yeah, it seems like I've seen his face before. Don't he do cement work? Yeah, he lives at 345 Plainview, just next door to me. 345 Plainview? No right where it is. Look, look, I'm going to sit on the end of the pier and fish. Do you have any objections? Nope, nope. I'm going to do a bit of fishing myself.  She just fell in. I know that now, but I was sure coming at you, Bob. Well, let's have it quiet now. Much room at the end of the pier, here. Yeah, plenty of room. You're fishing where I generally sit. I'm sorry, but I'm here now. Well, I'll fish alongside of you here on this end. Well, now look, it's pretty crowded here. Well, just show your line. Don't drift across mine. Well, you just watch yours. Mine's all right. You sure threw in a good spot by them lily pads. Oh, I fished before. You know, there's something melancholy about fish. They got such sad eyes. I hadn't noticed. Yep, a whole lot like people. You know, a fellow living alone out here gets to know fish. I never met one, except across a counter.  If him fish could walk, they'd follow me around just like a dog. Wait, wait, wait. I had a bite. Yeah, just a little one. Yep, I kind of hate to see folks catch a fish. Makes me feel sad. Kind of mad, too. Oh, don't see why. Oh, of course you don't.  Better watch your line there. It's crossing mine. Oh, won't do no harm. Yep, I'd sure like to see a man throw a fish back in after he took them out.  You're lying. Now, now watch it. Won't do no harm. Yep, some folks don't appreciate fish. They think they ain't got fish. It sure looks like this ain't your day. Just not. Mary and Junior must be dry by this time. Yeah, been going about two hours. Nice little woman. I think so. I'll be down in a minute, Oliver. Okay, no hurry. Look, look down there alongside of that dead log. On the bottom, there's a bass. Sure as dandy. Looks a lot like my mother-in-law. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, that's it. I'll drop my line over there beside him. Me, oh my. I wish you could see Alfred. Alfred, who's he? He's fish. I just call him Alfred. He looks a lot like a cousin I had once by that name. Alfred's my favorite. Favorite cousin? Favorite fish.  He almost eats out of my hand. Got a big red spot right under his left eye. Look, look, mister, do you have any place to go or anything to do for an hour or so? Well, no, can't say I have. Well, then I'm pulling my line in and getting out of here. Yep, it's kind of discouraging. Now me, well, I catch one or two for food. Some folks don't know how to cook fish. They put that corn meal stuff all over them. Me? Well, I pour over a can of tomato soup, a couple of cloves of garlic, and sprinkle a bit of flour over it. Hold it, hold it, hold it. Quiet, quiet, hold it.  Now, now, wait, pardon me. Who you shoving? Oh, there goes my line, too. Let me whip him, bud. Get over. Lay off now. Let me land this. Now, move over. Hurry up. Don't whip him around. Bring him an easy life. Don't tell me how to fish. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold your line, sir. Quiet. Go on home. That's a land of that. Get the calf. Get married. Get out of the way. That's it. That's it. That's it. Bring him an easy life now. There he is. Wait, wait, wait. That's Alfred. Huh? You called Alfred. You know my line, too. What do you mean your line? Hmm, we are tangled up. Of course they are. You can seize on my line. Oh, it is, huh? Who brought him in? Whose line was he on? Answer that. Go ahead, partner. Answer that. Now, look, brother, don't get pushy. I landed him. Oh, Oliver, you caught a fish. Oh, hi, ma'am. Yeah. It's Alfred. Yes, it's... Huh? Who's Alfred? He said fish, ma'am. Fish? Hmm, you've been talking too long to Oliver. Well, anyhow, it's mine. Say no such things. Boys, boys, please. Well, there's only one way to settle this.  I can't see you're hankering for trouble, partner. Well...  Please, let's not have trouble over, uh, Alfred. This is gonna be settled right now. He's gonna be settled my way.  Gee, Mary, what you gonna do? I don't know. Oh, here comes Junior. Hope he doesn't touch him. Don't worry. He won't. He's going to the cabin. Uh-oh. He has three guns hanging on the wall. Huh? Go to the car quickly, Junior. What for, Mom? Gee, I wanted to go... Go to the car! Never mind. Oliver, if he gets a gun... Guns? What? Brother, grab that tackle quick. I'll bring Alfred. Homer. Homer! Quick! Wake up! Huh? Uh... Me? Huh? Huh? What's up? Your number, if we stall here. Huh? Hop in. Hurry, Junior. Gee, I-I-I don't quite get the hurry, Mom. Never mind. We'll explain on the road. You're crushing me, Oliver. Watch out for Alfred. Now, here, Homer. Take Alfred. I won't do it. Here he comes, Oliver. Gee, Pop, something ringed in the sun. Guns?  Get going, Homer! Belts besides on my feet. I'll try. Oh, gee, what a fish. What a beauty. Oh, brother, what a meal. Oh, sure is, Oliver. Hey, look. Are you-are you through with my unit? Well, yes, so why? Well, take it out of my lap then. I've got the new blue jeans on. Oh. Come on, Gee, Pop. Why did you have to start a fuss? I didn't start a fuss. I sat there for three hours and caught nothing until Alfred took a chance. Well, I didn't like that fella from the first time I've seen him. You know, he had a sort of a dangerous glint as I did.  Well, we don't think he'd shoot just over a fish, do you? He might over this one. Remember, it's Alfred. But I didn't get a chance to fish, Pop. You fell in, didn't you? Well, yeah, but... Oh, Mary, here. Hold Alfred till I button up my jacket. Gee, I wouldn't fail to touch him. Wrap him in a paper. Hold his suffering, Mirko. You know what would help? I guess if I opened up the window. Yeah. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. I'll put that old fella's back there and mash in his teeth. I don't think he is, Oliver. Huh? There's a car following us when he's gaining. There is? Hmm. Step on it, Homer. Well, I can't lose him on the road. But I'll bet you four dollars he can't follow me across these fields. All right, hang on to your hat, everybody. Here we go. Well, here we are home. Well, I told you we'd have fish for dinner. Yeah, that's great, Pop, but I didn't get to fish. Oh, well, you'll enjoy eating him anyway. Well, frankly, if that's what men want to do alone, I'll never ask to go again. Oh, well, today was an exception. You know something? I bet that fellow would have shot at him if he'd been close enough to us. Jeepers, Pop. Mr. Meister sure can drive through fields, can't he? Oh, that's his tractor training. Well, shall we prepare, Alfred? We'd better. Junior, put Alfred on the back porch until I get my clothes changed, will you?  Because I caught it, that's why. But he'd grown fond of him, Oliver. I don't care about that. I'll take him out in the back porch, Junior. Okay. Gee, he's a pretty good-sized fish. A pound? He'll go four pounds if he goes an ounce. That's probably Homer. Tell him we haven't cooked it yet. My goodness. Where's that fish stealing vomit?  I never strike a woman. Oh, wait a minute, Bob. So we meet again, eh? Put up that gun. I ain't got no gun. Don't tell me that. I saw the sun glint on something shiny. There weren't no gun. That was a knife. Oh, no, please. Not in here, anyway. Call someone, Mary. Get Homer. Oh, that partner. I ain't aiming to hurt nobody. Yet. But the knife. Oh, oh, oh. When you rounded your cabin, you said you'd settle us in your own way. Yep. That I did. Well, I was, uh, I was going to cut Alfred in two and give you half of them. Oh, well, thank goodness. You see, I ain't a killing man, but I just couldn't sit home wondering what had happened to Alfred. Probably being rolled in some old cornmeal or something. Oh. Well, that's what's worrying you. Yes, ma'am. You see, some folks don't understand a fish. A fish spends 10 years growing up to be fit for a king. Then some bum cook spoils it all in five minutes. Oh, now I see. You weren't mad at me. You were interested in Alfred's future. And that's right. I'm going to see Alfred through to the end. Well, oh, I'm glad that, Saddle. Would you like to sit in on Alfred's farewell with us, Mr. Crumpet? Well, that's right sporting of you, ma'am. I wish I had to admit the likes of you when I was younger. Oh, what would Alfred have done? Oliver. Well, Mary, when you fry Alfred, I'll put plenty of shortening in the pan. Well, hold on, hold on right there, partner. Huh? There ain't nobody frying Alfred. Well, I got a breath left in my body. I agree with you. We'll broil it. Oh, no, no, ma'am, please. Alfred deserves the best. We'll bake him. I don't like baked fish. We'll fry him. You mean we'll broil it? I see we bake it. And I can bake it up, too. Who's coming in? Probably Alfred. Gee, I heard you clear up in the back, Pop. Well, I'm sorry, Junior, but we just can't agree on how to cook Alfred. Oh, so that's it. Well, then gee, Pop, you don't have to argue anymore. Huh? Meister's cat just went over the fence with him. The Anderson family is written by Howard Swarth. Directed by Herb Lytton. And features Dick Lane as Oliver. Louise Arthur as Mary. Walter Tetley as Junior. And Herbert Rawlinson as Homer. Cyril Crumpet was played by Doug Young. Music by Gordon Kibbe. Sound effects by Ray Erlenborn. And your announcer is Ken Peters. The Anderson family is a Hollywood broadcaster's production. Transcribed from Hollywood.