Brett McCabe's episode just recently was freaking awesome tons of people. I got somebody asked me the other day like, you know, that's totally up my alley of like stuff that I love to listen to. Well, what was nice about it's like we finally got to talk about sports specific topics. Oh, I crave it. I swear to God, I promise you guys, Justin, I know something about sports just a little bit. Do you guys talk about again? Yeah, exactly. So I'll just tuned out. No, Brett McCabe's episode was so great about sports psychology. And then it wasn't that much longer after that. I just happened to be going through Jordan's Art of Charm because it's one of our favorite podcast for sure. You need to listen to that podcast. He dude, he always has great guests on there and he has Heinz Ward. And if you don't know Heinz Ward is Heinz Ward, two times Super Bowl winner and MVP of one of them when he actually caught the winning touchdown.  You get to learn about his background, where he came from and very interesting story. Yeah. And what drives someone to be like that? And they get into like talent and work hard and it working hard. And it reminds me to quote that, you know, when you talent will always, I mean, work, working hard will always outbeat talent that doesn't work hard. And it's so true. And he actually talks about that. Well, it's not, there's so many. He can only get so far just based off of talent. And there's so many parallels with that. And this is what they get into with sports and in life and in business, you know, of applying that hard work. And even there is somebody who even there is somebody who's more talented than you are in that same field, in that same sport, that eventually hard work will surpass that talent, especially when talent doesn't work hard. It was an excellent episode. I just looked it up 520 on Art of Charm, Heinz Ward, great episode, but in general, great podcast. Always. 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Mind pump with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews. Are you guys into feet? Yeah. I got the perfect thing for you. You like feet? Oh, yeah, I like feet. I like to spread them all. Intrigally, I like to get real tense in between my toes. You know how I can better do that? The barefoot clinic that we're going to host here at mindpump headquarters.  I'm so into feet, man. When do we have the barefoot people coming in? The 25th. It's the March 25th and 26th. So this is a certification on barefoot training and how to get the foot to be more connected. That's right. It's not how to paint your toenails. So I didn't realize just how it fix my hammer toe, how important your feet were to the rest of your body's mobility. So it was mind blowing. Yeah. How do they sign up for this? Is it it's on our site, right? Yeah, it's on the site. So you go to mindpumpmedia.com under the events calendar and you can sign up for the barefoot specialist certification course, which will be held here at mindpumpmedia.com or at Mind Pump Media Studios, I should say, headquarters. Yeah, yeah, I'll say three things, three separate things. They all mean the same thing. It's all the same. It's all the same thing. Once you get there, you're there. But we know you're not into feet, Justin, for real. So that must have been tough for you. Yeah, I'm really not. And, you know, like for a warning, you should probably like trim your toenails and all that kind of stuff for going into this. Just as a, you know, it's a common courtesy. Do you guys have any weird fetishes? Yeah, I didn't get any. So why do you got to go there, dude? Like, do we have to, you know, don't go to extreme. Like, I don't want you guys to share anything like surface surface stuff that we're going to have to edit this stuff. Let's see. What is there? Such thing as a surface surface. I got an idea. It depends on how weird you are. I got an idea. What part of a woman? I haven't. Well, well, don't do that, because now you just I can't answer what I was about to say. Because it's not like you have a fetish on them. Well, whatever, I have an ear fetish. Ears? Yeah, like ears. On you, like, is there a particular type of ear? Yes, absolutely. What is it? Well, I don't like them big dumbo-y looking. I don't like them like Elfie.  Elfie point looking. They have to be just a medium size and I like a lot of dexterity within the ear. What do you mean, so they can wiggle them? Yeah, so I can rub them and I can wiggle them and they're soft. Like, some people have like a lot of cartilage. Big lobes. Like, UFC fighter ears, all bad. Not going to work for me. So do you like folds? Like a lot of folds in the ears? That's OK, as long as it's not so much cartilage that you can't work with it. Like, I want to be able to grab it. So if they had one of those, like, as it goes like gauge earrings, you know? Not cool. To me, that ruins a good pair of ears.  OK, do you like the lobe attached to the head or the lobe can kind of hang a little bit? No, detached. Because if it's detached, you can wiggle it and you can rub it. I see. Really? Yeah. But you don't like... You ask what a fetish, but I... Pull on those like if doggy... Literally, my entire life. No, this is not like a sexual fetish for me. It's just a fetish. Like you said, you try to be PG, I give you a PG fetish. Well, yeah, but when you're... I used to... It was a thing that I used to do all the way from elementary school all the way up into high school. You play with... I wouldn't say I would play. You fondled mine. I would walk up to someone when I'd say hi and that was like my way of saying like...  I know. I've done it to all of you. You've done it to me like my whole career. Yeah, I've always done it. I thought that was our special thing. It was our special thing, it's my special thing. It's a signature move that I've done forever. I feel uncomfortable now. No, don't feel uncomfortable. I thought you were just fucking...  It's not sexual sound again. Yeah, but the fact that you grabbed my ear and then you liked it... Yeah. It feels... I feel violated. No, it's not like that.  And you did, I remember... You caught me in the bathroom watching one of our videos and you were talking and that freaked you out. Yeah, he was saying... Don't worry, dude. I wasn't like doing anything.  And you know, Justin's pretty audible.  And so you could hear... And then you hear... And then all of a sudden, I hear my voice.  You were inspiring me. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm watching YouTube. I'm like, you better not be doing what I think you're doing. Yeah.  Yeah, I know. So yeah, I don't like that you did that. You touched my ear, but you enjoyed it because now I feel violated a little bit. It's kind of like walking up and patting your buddy on the back or grabbing somebody by the shoulder or somebody that grabs like your traps or shaking you in the hand. Like it's just like a... But it's not just anybody. Like I won't walk up to some random stranger. Like if I rubbed your ear, we're cool. We're close. We're close enough for me to do that. But I feel that's like me showing my love. Like, hey, bro. Well, I'm glad you love me, but I don't want you to do it anymore. I don't. Well, now you make me feel uncomfortable. I probably won't do it anymore because I don't want you looking at me all weird like I'm...  It's kind of weird. I just feel a little violating because... It's like me showing my love. It's a strange part of the body to... I'm a tickler. You just get me out there, okay? Like to tickle. I don't like being on the receive again. Yeah, for sure. Well, I enjoy it. I enjoy a good tickle. You'll love to do some tickling, though.  Let's have a tickle fight, Justin. That's a little pink, but a little tickling.  I told you, I don't like receiving it. Hey, Justin, tell us about your first homosexual experience. Well, it started with a tickle fight. Well, it was a good tickle tassel. A tickle tassel. What's your... It started there. Is that your fetish? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I feel like that progresses. You know, things, yeah. Real fast.  You know what I mean? And then it turns into like, oh, like, I don't know, it's weird transition because, you know, it's the whole thing. Like, you have to kind of shut down the humor side for a bit, but like it starts to kind of spark things. I mean, it's just, I don't want to get into any more detail. Yeah, see, I'm a big... He's like, I'm sharing too much right now. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna hold back, I'm gonna hold back.  I like necks, especially like the, where it connects to the shoulder near the collar bone.  You know what makes sense. You would say something like that to all the little girls that are listening to you and they're going, oh my God. I love my neck, I love my neck. Here's what happened, dude, like a simultaneous flip of hair. Yeah. You're like, oh, that's interesting. Like he would go for like the... The number one spot like on all women is like their neck, bro. I just happen to be excellent at the neck. I just happen to have a fetish with the neck, which just so happens to be 87% of all women's hot spots. It makes their vagina. And I like to kind of just bite it a little bit. I just happen to be an expert in this area. Well, if you guys will stop talking, I could explain. Yeah, sell us there. We're filling in all the blanks.  Talk about how this... No, I've always had a neck fetish. Here's what I love about the neck. Let's hear it. You can get real close and you can smell her skin. You know what I mean? And women, especially one that you've got... She's got skin all over her body.  Yeah, but if you smell right next to the neck, it just, they smell so good and then you can taste it. I just love that area. I love to spend my time there. Oh, God. You know what I mean? Oh, God.  Hey, go to Instagram, MimePump Radio, and tell us which one is your favorite. Adam's ear rubbing. Just as Tickle Party. Tickle Party, hashtag. Or me caressing your neck. Yeah, it's... Oh, God. Always selling, bro. What is this? Is this the front of the show right now?  What are we doing? Which one wins? Which one wins? Click here to get Sal's video on. So, Adam, are you feeling better? You ready to start working out? Actually, today I'm going to work out for the first time, man. I still have a little bit of this lingering cough. I'm about, I would say, 85, 90% better, which is good enough for me to give it a shot. I've been down, though, for almost, almost two weeks, bro. Yeah. You know, that thing's lingering. This is the longest I have been down and out. For like the last two months. Well, I'm just kidding. Yeah, more like the last four or five years. I haven't strung two solid weeks together, especially not that was planned. Like right after a show, of course, I give myself a Reese, but not even two weeks.  I think you got it for me, dude. I'm sure I did. You came in that one day talking about your throat all itchy, and it was the next day I felt it. You know, because we shared that. And I should be very transparent with our audience, too, because this is something that, here's an area of like awareness for me, right? I talked about like the whole vegetable thing, and that's been a major focus for me, like really trying to get six to 10 servings in a day and just be consistent with that and rotating through all of them.  I have not, so those that have been listening to the show since the very beginning, I've been sick a bunch of times.  Well, one of the things that happened when I was really cleaning the diet up and really going after, once competing was over, and it was more about like my overall health, right, than so much driven like how I look, I've never felt so good like inside. I had never fought, I've never been around so many times where I've been around somebody who was sick, because it used to be like, someone who gets sick, it was like, oh, great. Like you instantly got it. It was never about, am I gonna get it? It was just like, is this gonna be one of those ones that fucks me up for a week or am I just gonna be down for two or three days? So, for me, that was like how it's always been. Well, I've actually weathered the storm for a good year plus now. This is my first time of being really sick in a long time. And if I'm being completely honest, it's also the most inconsistent I've been with my food for the last month. You know what? Let me tell you.  It's gut health, man. Gut health is, I just listened to a podcast this morning. I think it was Smart Drug Smarts. It's not an older episode, it's like four episodes back that's called, I think, The Gut Brain Access. By the way, great podcast. But the guy on there was an author, and I can't remember his name. I think it's, what's his name? Scott Andrews, I think. Anyhow, he's talking about- Sounds like a good guy. He's talking about some of the research with gut health. And did you know that they solved? They pretty much have cured depression in mice with, through treating the gut. With healthy poop. Well, yeah, through treating the gut. And they've already been able to show massive changes in human studies through treating the gut with things like depression and whatever. Like, I'm just tripping out over all the stuff that's connected to the gut. It's crazy. Well, since Doug is the healthiest one out of us, I think- Doug, I don't think Doug's gotten sick since I've known you.  He's trying to pass the baton now. Yeah. That's why I don't get sick anymore. Because you ate his poop? Yep. Straight from the source. Wow. Fresh. Oh, fresh. You don't even blend it up or anything? Fresh delivered. Just straight up, just- Just spread them cheeks.  Just a nutty froth. Does he have like a smooth baby butt? I picture it like that. Like it's just this- Well, so we're joking right now, but I never pictured it. I think you are right. So why don't you tell us? I think it'd be better if it was like encapsulated, but you know- Encapsulated poop. You're just going straight for the fresh. You know why?  Like it explodes. Oh my, oh my God. God, that's what we got to look forward to. You know when you have like, when you do fish oil or omegas, right? And you have those and you burp the fish, you're like, oh God, could you imagine fecal? Like fucking, oop, oop, oop, oop, oop, oop, oop.  What do your fart smell like? Like deep deep poop? Yeah, literally. Hey, can you stop talking for a second? Oh my God.  Well, first off, when you do that, when they do the poop capsules that they do in studies, first of all they clean it, which I don't know what that means, but they do something to it.    Hey, this is really clean dirt. Like- There's nothing left. Yeah, what do you do?  So they freeze dry and then they put it in a capsule that doesn't break down until it gets to your colon.  No, you won't burp it up because it doesn't break down until it gets down to your colon, bro. You see what I'm saying? So it's not like you take- Did you just science me on the fecal pills? Did you just science me right there? Well, you know, science me out. He blinded me with science. Science. Dude, please bring the bird. The bird turd. What about if you put it up rectally? Bring the poopy bird. Yeah, yeah. Quas! The angle has landed. Chimaera quas! Today's quas being brought to you by Chimaera coffee. It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural nutrients for a cleaner, calmer, and more focused buzz without the crash. Click the Chimaera link at mindpumpmedia.com and input the discount code, Mindpump a checkout for 10% off. It's the motherfucking quas. The eagle has landed. Quique quas. First up is Henning BCKHS. In the videos that we make, we show a crunch on a bench. Is it safe to go into more extension? This is a great question. You know what's funny? You guys have a listen to this. This is a job for Soundy Stefano.  I'm gonna answer it. So sorry for saying that again. It is a good question and this is why. We do demonstrate crunches and stuff on flat surfaces, which mean you can't go into full extension. So what that means is when you're doing a crunch, you're in what's called flexion of the spine, flexion of the lumbar spine. When I go back, I'm starting to go into extension, but the bench stops me so that my back is flat. The reality is I can go further back, right? We all can arch our back so that we go into full extension. And the reality is that that's the full range of motion of the abs. Like if I go into a full extension and then come up to full flexion, I'm now working my abs in a fuller range of motion. But let's talk about why we don't teach that for that. Well. That specific movement. It depends. Like I don't teach it to beginners for sure because it requires really good control, really good articulation of the spine. Don't just say beginners either because somebody who's been working out for a long time. I guess you're right. Poor muscle control. Yes. So let's make this really clear here. In my experience, well over 80% of the people I've ever trained have somewhat of lower cross syndrome. Most people have it excessively. So that means their hip flexors are overactive. They've got this. They're already living in extension, right? And so that person, I don't, I'm not worried about them going all the way back in extension full range of motion, which we're huge fans of, okay? But in this case, we're trying to work on a deviation that most people have. So most people I'm not gonna tell to do that. Now, if you don't ever have any low back pain, you don't think you have a slight anterior pelvic tilt, you don't think you have any hip flexors that are overactive, then absolutely I would promote you going through full range of motion and opening up like Sal was talking about. But that, I mean, I think we speak to the majority when we tell people to stay out of that. It's just people have a tough time really working and getting the abs to do what they're supposed to without getting all kinds of hip flexors involved anyway. This is why I love the physio ball. The physio ball, if you do it right, if you do a proper crunch on a physio ball and you push your hips up so you activate the glutes, you can go into like a nice extension because you can kind of wrap around the ball. And this is what I tell my clients when they do this, I tell them wrap your back around the ball while maintaining stable hips so you're not swinging back and forth and then crunch over the ball. Have we not done the ball one like that? We haven't, yeah. I think we've done ball stuff. I meant both of you. I said dine in this. That's an old reference. Yeah, well, both of you are stability ball. We've worked right, physio ball. We'll definitely do, that's actually, I don't know why we haven't done that yet. Yeah, interesting.  But yeah. We'll post a video on, if you're not, by the way, if you guys are listening and you have not subscribed, so we have two channels that are running right now. Mind Pump TV, Mind Pump TV, every single day we drop a free video and it's full of exercises just like the one we're talking about. And then we have Mind Pump Radio and Mind Pump Radio is actually these episodes that we have now. Now they're on YouTube. We know that a lot of people have a hard time sharing episodes on podcasts. Yeah, so you can listen to us on YouTube, the whole podcast and share it if you want. So make sure you subscribe to both those and share with your friends. Yeah, but yeah, so, you know, when I first really started focusing on, because I, so I went through a process where I worked out for years and years and years and I did very little direct, you know, core work. My core was strong and stable because of dead lifts and squats and overhead presses and I did do some core work, but I did very little like direct core work and I would get lean, you know, I'd get down to like 9% body fat and I'd have, I kind of, I'd get a six pack but I have to really flex to show it and I don't remember what happened exactly or what prompted this, but I decided, you know what, I'm going to build my abs out so that they kind of stick out more so I can see them more and what I did through this process is I started training with more resistance. So I started doing like heavier resistance type exercises. I started really focusing on the function of the abs, which is to flex the spine, but then I would also get into full extension and I started training them more frequently.  Like I didn't get any leaner, but I went from having an okay, you know, core, not really anything spectacular to it becoming like something that really stood out in my body to where if I get lean now, people notice my abs right away. In fact, I've developed to the point, I've developed my abs to the point where if I wear a tight shirt and I'm lean and I'm relaxed, you can see my abs through my shirt. They pop out. They pop out. You definitely have the best core out of all of us for sure and I'll be the first one to admit that this is an area that I neglect. I totally neglect it. I've always died it down to get my abs. You know, the old, oh, the abs are built in the kitchen and it's not to say that I don't recognize the importance of the exercises and actually training them for hypertrophy. It's just that I've been able to get lean enough to where I could see them and it wasn't a weak point and I was worried about other stuff. So, but you can definitely tell the difference when you look at your abdominal wall compared to mine.  We could be sitting at like eight to 10% and you could see yours actually protrude out. So it's a major difference for sure. Makes a big difference in the keys we're training with resistance, learning proper form and then full range of motion which meant going into extension. So I use the physio ball quite a bit and I do it slow and I focus on my form. And I'm telling you, I got a pretty strong core. I'm not the strongest, I got a decent strength though. And when I do physio ball crunches and I do long lever ones where I extend my arms above my head, if I do full extension and full flexion with my hips in a nice stable position, I'm not getting more than like 15 reps with good control and form. And I don't need any real, any more resistance than just my arms. Well, wasn't this like highlighted a lot in those infomercials where they show you products where they can get you more into more extension or was that more flexion? You know, the problem with all- What are you talking about? I'm talking about- What infomercial are you talking about? I'm talking about that ball, the- Oh, the bender ball. Yeah. No, you're right. And here's the problem. The problem with all-ab exercises and machines in particular machines is that if you don't understand that the abs extend and flex at the lumbar spine, then you're gonna have a tough time because all you're thinking of is bending forward. I'm thinking coming up, like coming up for a sit-up or raising my legs in a leg raise. But that can happen at the hips. And if you're not focusing on the lumbar spine, that's where it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen at your hips. Well, they're not in those videos. That's why I kind of bring that up because they're basically taking it all the way to the hips and they're leaning all the way back. So they're missing the point of the intention of the crunch and the exercise and training the abs specifically. So- In fact, once you know this, like all-ab exercises can become quite effective. I mean, one of our most popular videos on MPTV is the ab roll- The ab roll-out that I'm demoing. An ab roll-out, if you do it right, is very, very difficult.  I was literally teaching a client. So this move that this person is bringing up right now that we're talking about where we... This was the one where you sat on the bench and you hooked your feet underneath the power. Yeah, it's like a rolling chair almost. Yeah, so she was actually wanting me to watch her form and she was doing it.  And it's crazy how difficult it is to slow down this process and really focus on, you know, articulating the spine and trying to lay down each vertebrae as you open up.  You still, as soon as you start to go back, you want to open right up into that. Right away, go get a flexor. Right away. It's just because it's so... And people have to understand this that... It's hard wired. Yes, start really slow and controlled and really pick apart your form and pay attention to the little movements that's happening because when you've created this dominant pathway to the hip flexors to take over a movement like that, you know, even if you start off in the right movement and you start the way Sal's all position and then you start repping away at it, you're... That dominant pathway is gonna kick in. It's just not that easy. It's not like you're gonna...  It doesn't work that way, you know? Yeah, I think if you're starting on really training your abs properly, the first thing you should do is pick the easiest exercise and just perfect the form and then gradually move yourself up to the more difficult ones that require more resistance. George Murray, views on training in a shorter range of motion. Is it beneficial sometimes? So the question was a little longer when I read it on Instagram. Yeah, I read the whole thing. Well, he's talking about how we, you know, we always promote full range of motion training and full range of motion training builds the most muscle and you should always work on your range of motion and get more ranges of motion with more connectivity. Did you plan that to follow up that last one? Cause that was kind of the same. No, actually, it was unplanned. It's a serendipity. Nice job. Is there a benefit to training in shorter ranges of motion sometimes? Absolutely, definitely. In fact, we're huge advocates of isometric tension-based movements which are no range of motion. You're picking a particular point in a range of motion and you're just activating and being tense within it. Shorter range of motion are great for, now, here's the thing. Some people will sell shorter ranges of motion by saying it overloads the muscle better.  Yeah, like, oh, you know, you can use more weight in a shorter range of motion. I'm curious to how you, I'll tell you how I use it whenever I use it. You know, they'll say, you know, it overloads the muscle with more weight cause since you're only doing a half rep, you can use more weight. Therefore more muscle is gonna grow. No, no, no, that's false. You are using more weight but you're training a shorter range of motion and you're really only overloading, you're not overloading the muscle any differently. You're just putting more resistance within a range of motion that you're stronger in. So for example, if I'm doing a bench press, I'm probably gonna be really strong at lockout and going down two inches. So if I just go down two inches and press out, I'm really strong in that particular range of motion so I can add tons of weight. But all I'm really doing is training that range of motion. That's what you need to understand with shorter ranges of motion is you're being very specific with what you're training. So here's how I use ranges or short ranges of motion. I pick areas or within the ranges of motion that I have weaknesses in or instability in and this is what I would do with my client. So if I have a client, for example, that has trouble with the bottom portion of a squat, let's say we go down at the bottom of the squat and I notice that he loses or she loses stability in there. I notice the knee might go out a little bit or the hips wanna twist a little bit or they get the tailbone tuck or their foot wants to raise at the bottom of the rep. And let's say we're using 100 pounds. I'll take that weight and I'll go down to 50 pounds. I'll cut it in half and I'll tell them, okay, here's what I want you to do. I want you to go down to the bottom of the squat but when you're down there, we're gonna maintain perfect position. So your left knee likes to move out a little bit and your right hip likes to go out to the right a little bit. I want you to be perfectly straight at the bottom of the squat and we're gonna hold it here for five seconds and then we're gonna come up and we're gonna repeat that. So now- But you're still going through the entire range of motion. We are, but we're focusing on that short range but you can also- Pump them out at the bottom. You can also pump them out at the bottom but you gotta go real light and again, it's because I'm focusing on range of motion where they're losing- So you're talking about more of like a pulsing type of a rep where you're picking the end, like the bottom range of motion that's a sticking point and we're trying to emphasize this as like, okay, we need to recruit better in this part in this position of the left. Or at the top, like there's studies that now show that quarter squats, when you add quarter, and we all laugh at quarter squats, right? Go all the way down. But when you add quarter squats to a routine that has full squats, they show an improvement in vertical above and beyond just the full squats. Well, I have a theory on that.  You're not going, that's it. You don't ever squat. Of course. Yeah, yeah, you don't squat. So that's why that is and you can go heavier low like that. I'll tell you- I'll be honest, like, I don't really use that as a technique, the pulsing or the doing reps. Well, it makes sense that you wouldn't- I do, I do. Because when you hear how I do it, it's not the way you train that much. So I could get why you don't. The only time I use this is when I'm training in hypertrophy. So think of it like this.  I'm trying to lift maximal load in that rep range through full range of motion to promote the most muscle growth I possibly can, to promote the most strength I possibly can, and to promote good joint health by going through full range of motion. Now, when I start jumping into the 10 to 15 rep range and I've been training hypertrophy and now I'm chasing the benefits of the pump, now I might include some superseds or some short range pumping exercises where I'm more focused now on pumping blood into my muscle to benefit the sarcoplasmic hypertrophy opposed to strength or power. I'm lifting a lot lighter weight. It's less dangerous, less detrimental to me. I'm not really trying to increase strength or power right now. I'm chasing a pump. So guess what? Short pumping reps actually will help pump it up. So there's the only time, and then even- You do that towards the, that's not the bulkier one. Oh, well, even then I don't do it hardly ever. It's not something I do hardly ever. I think that's, we need to be very clear. Yeah, that's, but I think it's important that they know that it's something that I would incorporate and I would use.  I'm gonna throw that like I'll do, like let's say I'll do bench, right? And I'm gonna do four or five working sets. And then the very last set I might strip the weight down halfway. And then I do these short little pump out just to finish the pump on the- See, I can see that, like an example that comes to mind in my head is those, the 21s, you know, with the, with the- Oh, old school, 21. Old school, so it definitely, you get a different feel and recruitment, but at the end you're trying to achieve full range of motion after you've pumped blood in there too as well. So I don't know, I guess teach their own, but like I tend to, like if you are using that technique and it is a different technique to get a different type of stimulus, I wouldn't recommend doing that very frequently. Yeah, absolutely, I think we can all agree on that. Next question. Jay Crespino, what do you recommend to someone with weak ankles? So this person rolled their, I think he said he rolled his ankle a couple of times. If I'm not mistaken, maybe I'm confusing him with someone else, but there's two places that I'll look when somebody has weak ankles. And usually when someone says I have weak ankles, it's because they roll their ankles consistently. And it's usually to the outside.  It's always that whole supinate roll, right? Where it comes to the outside typically. And it comes from two areas that I've seen most common. Number one, hip or foot? Hip or foot, the hip. If your hip is tight or weak or you don't have good connection to it, then the joints that get attached to it will start to bear the load. So if you look at the hip, right? The hip is this real mobile joint. It rotates internally, externally. It abducts, adducts, it flexes and extends. The ankle's got lots of mobility in it as well, but the ankle doesn't have the strength and the power and the muscle connected to it like the hips do. So if I'm running and I'm doing a lateral move and my hip isn't supporting me well, my ankle is gonna take that and I'm gonna roll my ankle and get some pain. But the secondary to look is your foot. And this is something that we've kind of recently learned all about. Well, yeah, no, we have the barefoot specialist that's coming in on the 25th. And I mean, I would definitely address your connection to your feet for sure. I mean, I would agree with you too, Sal. I think that, I mean, just think of it this way. Like the hip, the hip is a very, the hip complex is just huge. There's tons of range of motion that the femur should be allowed to do in all different directions. So it's a multifaceted joint, right? So you can get all these different planes and it's big and it's strong and it's surrounded by lots of muscles that are really strong. And so it should really take a majority of any stress of you moving into different planes. Now, when you lose that connectivity, when you lose a lot of strength in multiple planes and that hip no longer is used to moving left to right and it's always going forward or back, like what happens to a lot of people as they age because you're not playing soccer or basketball or baseball or these sports that force you to work in the transverse plane or in the sagittal plane or the, excuse me, in the frontal plane. So you'll end up being so dominant, forward and back that when you ask the body to barely go out of there to the left or right, then that stress because the hip no longer has that connectivity or has no longer has that strength, the stress runs all the way down to the foot and then you end up rolling the foot like out to the outside. You also could see which goes back to the foot or goes back to the hip again, the pronating. And I see pronating a lot when people are squatting. So, you know, even though Sal made it a point that it's more common you roll the ankle to the outside, but if you're saying you have weak ankles because you watch your squat video and you're pronating, which is more common, your femur's internally rotating and going back to the hips again, you're internally rotating the femur when you drop down which could be due to like weak glute medius and then that's putting stress on the ankles and or you have a poor connection to your feet and then when you get down in that deep squat your feet aren't gripping the floor and planting like they should be. I think the reason why you see rolling out is so common is because when you're cutting or going laterally, it's that outside foot that you're using to stop you. Very rarely is that inside foot needing to create that type of force that can roll your ankle in that direction.  What they'll do is they'll bust it. That's usually a knee injury. Yeah, well that's where I remember the MCL injury that I had was because that real abrupt stop where I was trying to stop myself on the inside on astroturf. And so just that friction and that abrupt stop, that was the force that I'd, you don't normally sort of absorb that or you don't train for those types of situations. Did you hurt your knee on that? Yeah, here's a couple other things. Rolled ankles to the outside. You keep seeing rolled ankles but this person said weak ankles. I'm assuming this person is probably talking more about pronating of the foot when they squat. That's my guess. It's difficult. Because I think someone that happens. You're right. I think someone who's rolling their ankle, like spraining their ankle when they're, they would say, I keep spraining my ankle or what do I do because my ankles keep getting sprained or whatever, which could be a whole host of things that we talked about. But the most common thing I see is the pronating of the ankle. Here's what the whole question says. Okay, once you read the whole thing. He said that, that first part. What would you recommend to someone with weak ankles? And then I feel like often I'm strong enough to do something, but my ankles are too weak and lack stability that it's really starting to hinder things. So. Yeah, see, I think they're squatting and I think they're probably feeling their ankle ankles cave in when they come down. Strengthening their feet. It could be. I mean, yeah. I mean, strengthen your feet, work on your hips. I mean, if you have a strong like over arch in your foot, then it can go on the outside. If they pronate, then it's gonna have, it's gonna hinder your squats. I spoke to this a little bit. Maybe three weeks ago on my Instagram, you saw me do a heavy deadlift and I pronated on one side. And so then after that, you saw some primers that I was doing for ankle mobility and for firing my glute mede. So you can get it on my, if you're not already following me on Instagram, go back to the shirt where I'm wearing the blue, my Mad Mike shirt and I'm deadlifting. You can see what I talk about in the following videos. There's a couple of cool exercises you could do for ankles and feet. Like one of them is if you have like newspaper, you can put it on the floor or something, a thin piece of paper and sit down and actually pick it up with your toes by squeezing your foot, like you're trying to grab it with your entire foot and just practice that over and over again. That'll strengthen some of the muscles on the bottom of your foot. And the other one is, if you're standing up on your feet is to tilt your ankles in one direction or the other and go back and forth and do some reps like that. So you can strengthen the sides of your ankles, not just the front and back, like the tibiaeus and calf. Those are two exercises that I would recommend. And by the way, Jay Crespino is a female. 406 Montana Viking.  Sorry. I just wanna clarify. We're like talking to like a guy. By the way. This guy's a punk. No, I'm just kidding. The 406 Montana Viking.  Oh man. Oh God, I know right at the top of my head. Do you have a nasty one? Cause I have a bad one.  All right, go for it. To this day, I mean, so I have a really hard time watching, like when you're watching sports and you see an injury, like I just have a, once you don't, you either done some to yourself or you've been close to a really gnarly injury.  Whoa, don't wanna watch it at all. I was in, I was a sophomore in high school.  Sophomore in high school and our game just finished. I was JV and varsity is playing now. And some of my players, teammates and I are, you know, we're going over to the little like, you know, the high school snack bar and we've got some nachos and hot dogs. And we're, and so imagine too, I'm getting ready to bite in some nachos whether this happens. Oh, it's already grossing me out. I don't even know what happened. So, you know, imagine in a high school basketball court, we come in the big double doors that enter in from the, where the snack bar area is and we're standing there and homeboy gets a fast break. And so we're waiting for a whistle before we walk around the court and go sit down. And so we're at the baseline right underneath the hoop. Here comes a fast break. This kid steals a ball, kicks it out to a guy who's about six, six. And he's got it all alone. And we're all excited because dude six, six, he's got a fast break.  Like we all know he's in dunking. I'm right underneath the hoop. I'm gonna watch him do it. Eat my notches with my best friend. And he plants and he goes to do a 360.  Oh no, his leg didn't wanna go with it. Oh dude, he plants, rotates, foot that planted, stayed planted. The rest of his body completely 360 rotates. Snaps his fucking, his tibia right in half. Oh, he broke it. I'm sure that made a nice noise. Right in, oh, it was a pop. And right away it was like, his foot stayed planted. It was the grossest thing I've ever seen. His body completely rotates. And his leg was just like, just bent like a Z. He just fall down and look at it. Did anything break through the skin? You did see a little bit, barely. I mean, I didn't see like really, it didn't like. Cause you just looked away. Yeah, right, like right away. I was like, oh God. And you could see a little bit of it. And it was enough for me to ruin my nachos. Basketball dude, like, cause I had a really bad one with basketball as well. And it was, it's the hard floor. Like if you have the wrong floor too, like this floor wasn't like one of those wooden floors that gives more and has like a little bit more bounce to it. Yeah. It was, it almost felt like concrete. And we were playing in this, it was in junior high. And one of my friends, he went to go dive for this ball. And him and another guy that are fighting for this ball, like this loose ball. And my friend kind of fell to grab it. And he fell with his arm kind of leading down. And not only did he fall onto this hard ground, but then the other guy fell on his arm.  And was like, and then, you know, his forearm was just flopping.  Flopping down, like this, it was like this, right? And he gets up and his bones all sticking out. And he looks over at me. And he looks at me. And he looks back down at his arm. He looks at me again. And then my eyes are probably like humongous at this point. And tennis balls. Yeah.  And then he started like, it was like the most curdling, like guttural like scream. And it just, to this day, it freaked me out. And his arms never been the same either. Sal, did they have any injuries at science fairs? Yeah. So I've seen, I've seen a few pretty bad ones. This kid, he was doing like a volcano exhibition. And he, the volcano he roughed in and went all over his face. His eyebrows. Tell us, tell us. Actually, there's probably been some pretty nasty ones you would think, right? At the science fair. I dropped all the chemicals on my lap and melted my lips. So no, I have a couple. So one, there was a school, a school fight. So there was a fight after school. Two guys got in a big fight. They would've been great if you had a science fair. Dude, one guy hits the other guy. He falls down, but then he goes and picks him up and slams him on his face.  Yeah, so the guy's like out. Everybody freaks out. Dude, the guy stops hitting him or whatever because he just slammed him on his face. He comes up and wakes up and you see blood coming out of his mouth. And he's like, dude, what happened? What happened to my mouth? It's bleeding and he opens his mouth and the whole bottom row of his jaw was broken. Like all of his teeth were bent back. I can't explain it. You just remind me of another story. It was just even worse. He was just bent back and a little horrible. So that was gross. And then the second, that's not the worst thing I've ever seen. This next one is closer to the worst and the third thing I'm gonna tell you is absolutely worse. This next thing was I was at the gym. I'm probably, I'm a kid, so I'm probably like 16 years old. And I used to work out over at, God, what do they call it now? It was remember Ronnie Lott's fitness? Oh, it's forum something now. It's something different now but Ronnie Lott's fitness he's called. So I'm working out over there and there's this massive, and I don't know how, you know, I'm 16. So to a 16 year old, this guy looked, he was like the biggest dude I've ever seen.   And I'm kind of off to the side but I'm not really watching him.   So the leg press isn't like crushing him but his legs are definitely fully bent, right?  Oh, what?   See, like if you took a video of that and then you showed that to those assholes that do that at 24 hour fitness that put all the weights on like a hip sled.  This is the worst.  I think I've only been to one science fair. I won. I won it though. I won it of course, of course. So when I used to train in jiu-jitsu, jiu-jitsu is interesting. It's got a very interesting culture around it and there's definitely some politics that are involved with jiu-jitsu.  Especially if you're from another school and you're coming over there and you're punking their students, they'll send over and the rumors, there was lots of rumors of who these arm breakers were and now a lot of them are popular instructors so I don't wanna name any names but this was just the thing that I'd heard about but I'd never seen it. Our school was very friendly, very nice and it was cool. So one day we're training in this class about to start in this big old, like fully tatted up, like up to his neck, Samoan dude in roles in the class and he's a beginner, he's a white belt. Massive dude, probably 245 pounds, definitely lifts weights, very strong looking, aggressive guy and he signs up for the class and so he's going through the workout, going through the warmups, going through the drills of the techniques and at the end, it's time to spar. So we always left about an hour where we would just go against each other, we'd roll, right?   So the guy's like, okay, okay, okay, next match, does the same thing, grind and he hurts someone.  So the coach looks at me and he says under his breath, he goes, Sal, I want you to go teach him a lesson.  Like, is this what they're saying?  Maybe he's just telling me go over there and just dominate them, right? Just dominate this guy. So it says, okay, now at this point, I had been training for about four years. So I'm pretty well versed and I'm not a weak guy but this guy still outweighs me by a good 40 pounds. At the time, probably 200, 205. So I go against him and immediately I start sitting on my butt so this guy can just come on top of me and do what he wants and I put him on my guard and I put him in an arm lock. Real quick, I throw him in an arm lock and I start extending his arm and I don't crank very hard because I know I could break this guy's arm.    So I let go and I fall down and then he jumps back on top of me.  So while he's holding me down, he's telling me, you didn't have me, you didn't have me.  He's like, but you didn't have me.  Coach now is telling me, Sal, just hurry up and beat him. So I was like, fuck, what am I gonna do? So this guy's on top of me. I get out of him. I get out of the position and I roll. This guy stands up, which you're not supposed to do if you're just rolling on the ground. He stands up. So I'm like, okay, so I roll into a knee lock, a knee bar. So now I've got him in a knee bar and I'm cranking on his knee and he's kicking me with his leg, trying to get me off and I've got it, but I've got a tight hold. So I start cranking harder and harder and he's kicking me and the coach is like, Sal, go ahead and crank on it. He's telling me, crank on it, crank on it. Go ahead and break his knees, son.   So I start cranking harder. He's yelling, but he's not tapping out. And I'm literally thinking in my head, I don't wanna break a knee, like that's just gross. I just don't wanna do that. It's not worth it to me. So I put him in a foot lock instead, like a figure four, so a figure four is foot. So he tries to twist. I grab his foot in a figure four and I'm tucking his foot under his butt now and I'm cranking on his ankle.  And so I think to myself, like, I'm just gonna apply gradually more and more pressure till he gives up.   Right in my, god damn, right in my hands, dude.  And I feel his foot like, I feel his foot like going a weird position. I see it and I go like, ah, and he's screaming. Ah, and my coach rocks over to him. He's like, my coach goes over to him.   That's what you get. So this guy's getting yelled at. He's on the floor holding his ankle. Before he just got his ankle broken and half he's getting yelled at too. Dude, and I'm like, and my dad was there that day. My dad was training that day. My dad's looking at me like, he's like, my dad's a nice guy. And he's like, you shouldn't have done that, man. You should just let him go. He's got a big ego. He should have let him go. And I'm like, I wasn't even trying to like, break his ankle.  Funny thing is that guy came back to class a week later and he had his ankle all, you know, in a cast or bandaged up. Nicest guy ever. Oh wow. He just needed a humbling experience.  That was an ego check. He came in, he was shaking everybody's hand. He was being applied, soft-spoken all of a sudden.  But if that motherfucker learned some technique.  In fact, we just graduated. We were heading off for our Hawaii trip. I think I've told you, I don't know if I've told you guys a story before or not. And there was like six of my good and high school friends were all together and we all got hotel rooms.  They're all young kids, right? There's like 400 kids in this hotel that are all 18 to 23 years old. I forget what the name of those companies were. They used to put these. Sex parties. Kind of, yeah. So we're in our, we just get there, right? It's literally the first night we're here. The very first thing we did was go get our fake IDs because we're all under 21. We go get all, and we literally get suitcases of beer. We buy enough beer for the entire week. All six guys put their money together. We roll, we empty our luggage out. We get tons of beer. You know, cause you get that age, that's like the cool thing to do, right? So we have a refrigerator full of beer and we start drinking and we're getting all drunk. And you know, my buddy, my best friend at the time in high school, we had just got into lifting weights that year and he was the opposite of me. Like he started touching weights and you would have thought he was on steroids. Just, I mean, he was 185 pounds. He was benching like 350 in high school, like just all natural, perfect mesomorph body type just built, right? And you know, I remember it so vividly like this transition of watching his personality like change.  You can move some weight in the gym.  And he was, I was the one who got into more fights as your kid. So I was definitely like the little scrapper in the street fighter. He wasn't somebody who got into a lot of fights but now that he got weight on him, he was, he felt tough. And out of the group of us guys, like he would always kind of walk around with his chest puffed out like that. And we're in Hawaii and it's late at night. We've been drinking all day long. We're in our hotel rooms first night and some dude knocks on our door. When I hop up, I go over and I open the door and the dude's wasted. And he's like, hey, is my girl in there? Is my girl here?  I just close the door, let him go, right? And then my buddy hops up and says, who's that? Who's that? I'm like, oh, just some drunk guy looking for his girlfriend.  Why is he coming to our place? He's just drunk, dude, leave him alone.  Oh my God. So he gets up, right? He opens the door and you see the guy, he's like, he's stumbling down the hallway, knocking on each door. Is my girlfriend here? You know, like literally asking everybody, like, is my girlfriend here, right?  Yeah. And my boy's in just like his little basketball shorts.  So he's feeling like he's tough. He's feeling, he's got the chip on him right away.  Like he literally did, right? So he gets out, he walks out in the hallway. He's like, yo, bro, the guy turns around. He's like, you looking for your girl? He's like, yeah, she's in here with us, bro. Oh. And the guy's like- He throws you in there too. Oh yeah, right.  Here we go.  And there's three of us and he's by himself. And he's like, he's coming down the hall like staggering about it. He's like, what? And my boy's like, yeah, he throws his hands up.  She's with us. And I'm like, God. So the guy's coming over and literally he's like stumbling.  And just square on my boy's lip and literally blood just goes all over the wall, squirts everywhere. And the natural reaction, so this is my boy who gets punched in the face right away.  So I'm in the middle of rustling and tussling with this dude. We kick him out. He goes running down the hallway. Someone says they're gonna call the cops and we all scatter. But when I look up, there's blood all over the walls. I can't find my boy.  It literally, the guy hit him just right on the lip. It flayed his lip all the way to his nose and butterflyed it open and it's just pouring blood. He had to go, we had to go take him to the emergency room. He was there all night long. They had to fly a plastic surgeon in to come in and fix it. The rest of the trip, he couldn't see any sunshine or anything.  He got a mandible all of a sudden.   Yeah, he looked just like that. He had a mandible. Literally, just like that. Couldn't leave the hotel room. Talk about a humbling experience for him.  He learned his lesson.  I'm sure he learned real quick.   Oh, nothing.   I mean, that's what you get, dude. And see a couple rules, a couple things to learn here, right? Don't pick fights, right?  Don't throw your hands up in the air when you want to fight. That's the dumbest move I've ever seen guys do. When guys are like.  Any time a guy tells me like, what, bro?  You've been in lots of fights. You don't throw your arms up in the air, like act tough. It's like, no, that's not.  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Over the weekend many prominent fascists gathered at the Saudi-backed live golf tournament including former president turned insurrectionist and wannabe dictator Donald Trump, white supremacist propagandist Tucker Carlson, and proud Christian nationalist and QAnon conspiracy theorist Marjorie Taylor Greene. Now there were multiple photos of the thrupple that went viral and Marjorie Greene deliberately shared this particular image featuring her with Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump adding man what a time to be alive you and yours versus me and mine oh we talking teams oh we talking teams oh you switching sides want to come with me hashtag mega and just look at the way that she's looking at Trump's face like looking into his eyes as he's pointing aggressively towards her gushing with happiness because she's just in his presence and I want to juxtapose like that the way she's looking at him with this picture of Donald Trump with no makeup because that's what she's staring into and I just love that that brings a smile to her face just love it now the crowd shanted let's go Brandon because of course they did and Marjorie Taylor Greene she was interviewed by real america's voice I didn't know that this was a real news network I thought that that was just like a segment on oan or newsmax but apparently real america news network which sounds kind of racist but either way you know that network decided to interview Marjorie Taylor Greene and they asked her whether or not she would want to be done from vice presidential candidate and she said she would consider it at first but by the end of the interview as you're going to see she talked herself into it so what do you do with the fact that as people are starting to look forward to 2024 I think there's consensus mostly among our audience anyway and with most of the people that I've spoken with here that Donald Trump needs to be the nominee and anybody else is sort of a distraction at this point at least that's what I'm hearing from people but that I hear the words MTG mentioned a lot hello as somebody who'd be a great running mate for Donald Trump I just wonder what what you do with that well I you know what I think if he asked me I would definitely give that some strong consideration I love president Trump I never I never hide that fact I think he's wonderful I have a great relationship with him I talked to him frequently I'm I'm so thankful for him and his family as we all are and I defend them all the time I swear I would I would fight for that man because he fought for us and that's the kind of president we need back and if if if he were to ask me of course I would be honored it's really interesting to me that she thinks that she's qualified to be the vice president I mean that woman would be one heart attack away from the White House from the presidency itself that should horrify everyone because I believe that as bad as Donald Trump is as big of a threat to democracy as he is Marjorie Taylor Greene is actually worse and I'll explain why throughout the course of this video but would Donald Trump actually choose her and the answer I think is yes because consider why he possibly chose Mike Pence back in 2016 one criticism of Donald Trump even though he was beloved by the DOP base is that he wasn't sufficiently religious enough so in order to kind of unite the Republican Party unite possibly the libertarian and the you know evangelical factions he chose somebody who was a fundamentalist Christian in Mike Pence but the problem with Mike Pence and why Trump wouldn't choose him again is because Mike Pence wouldn't go along with Trump's lies about the 2020 election Marjorie Taylor Greene however she fits both of those those needs for Donald Trump she checks all the boxes not only is she an insurrectionist but she's also sufficiently religious in fact she self-identifies as a Christian nationalist proudly so in fact I believe she's selling shirts that say proud Christian nationalist and this story is from last week but let's go over it again as Newsweek explains Marjorie Taylor Greene a Republican representative from Georgia has defended her endorsement of Christian nationalism after the term she is a Nazi trended on Twitter Greene was accused on Monday of being a Nazi by Twitter users commenting on her defense of Christian nationalism while speaking on Saturday at the turning point USA Student Action Summit in Tampa Florida the Georgia Republican later shared a clip of her speech alongside the comment nationalist isn't a bad word because it means you care about your country sure quote I am being attacked by the godless left because I said I am a proud Christian nationalist Greene said in a statement sent to Newsweek which was also shared on Twitter these evil people are calling me a Nazi because I proudly love my country and my God the left has shown us exactly who they are they hate America they hate God and they hate us that's actually true many of those who commented on the she is a Nazi trending topic said that they knew the phrase was referring to Greene before even looking at the tweets me to actually Christian nationalism has been heavily associated with far-right extremism in the United States in recent years including white supremacy now you can argue that she's either being dumb or disingenuous but it's a distinction without a difference it really doesn't matter the reason why people are calling her a Nazi after she's saying that she's a proud Christian nationalist is because Christian nationalism means that you support a country that excludes people who aren't Christian that includes Jewish people that includes non-Christians it means you subjugate marginalized minorities deviant such as the LGBTQ plus community and it's inherently a fascistic ideology but she's saying I'm a proud Christian nationalist but simultaneously she's mad that people are calling her a Nazi in response I mean she's probably just stupid but Andrew Torba CEO of right-wing social media website gab is also a self-proclaimed Christian nationalist and he admits that it's an inherently fascistic ideology saying that Jewish people and non-Christians cannot be part of the conservative movement saying quote we are going to build a coalition of Christian nationalists of Christians of Christian candidates at the state local and federal levels and we're going to take this country back for the glory of God so that's why people were calling you a Nazi Marjorie Taylor Greene in response to you saying that you're a proud Christian nationalist because it doesn't just mean that you're a proud Christian it means that you want a state to the exclusion of everyone who is not Christian including Jewish people non-religious people including people who you describe as sexual deviance like the LGBTQ plus community that's why they're calling you a fascist because in order to achieve what you want a Christian nationalist state you have to purge people who aren't Christian from the state it's an inherently fascistic ideology that you're proud to be part of but Tihi I'm just a proud Christian sure sure you are so when you're a Christian nationalist you don't believe in pluralism you don't believe in democracy because what is the point of democracy if God has given you a divine mandate to rule by his authority so what's the point of voting when you already know what God wants you to do no need to elect representatives to do what the people want you know what God wants because he told you so you cut out the middle man and you just stop electing people and you just rule based on what the Bible tells you to do or what God tells you to do so that's why Christian nationalism is incredibly horrifying so as dumb as Marjorie Taylor Greene may be even if she's currently a national laughing stock don't think that she couldn't actually become the president or the vice president because that's kind of where we're at let me remind you that she's at this live Saudi backed golf tournament with Tucker Carlson who mainstreamed the white replacement theory and his show is the most popular cable news show on television so even if it's easy to dismiss these people because they are clowns think of what happened when everyone dismissed Donald Trump in 2016 so yes Marjorie Taylor Greene is an imbecile she's a clown but she's a clown who could actually get real power in this country and she's a sitting member of Congress so she already controls the levers of power to an extent but what she wants is more power the fact that she's vocalizing you know greater political ambitions that should horrify everyone because people like that who are proudly and openly fascists you don't want them anywhere near power but the fact that they want power so desperately tells you that they want to remake this country in their way and it doesn't include you their vision excludes everyone but people like them and I should horrify everyone as clownish as these buffoons may be


Be open, minded enough to upgrade your thinking about at least one thing every day. I think the most flourishing, progressive, best humans to be around are doing this.


Good morning to you. It is the festive season. It's December and Christmas is fast approaching. My name is Hilda Wadidi and you're watching Entrepreneurship Tuesday. If you do want to participate in the conversation at Y254 channel on Twitter, hashtag is Y in the morning. Hashtag Waikilisha.  And on Facebook, we're at Y254 on Instagram at Y254 underscore channel. And in case you miss any of the valuable insight here, we're at Y254 channel on YouTube. So, with me in studio today, we are going to be talking about life on the big screen. And this one is ours, very own indigenous Kenyan born Kenyan maid. One film actress. Yes, so goes by the name of Eunice Wajawona. You know, there's a reason why I've introduced her like that because she does kikuyu films. And I would love her to say good morning to you and we'll be even very Christmas. Good morning. I'm Eunice Wajawona, a born again actress and voice artist here. Yeah, and I'm happy to be here. You're happy to be here. We're very happy to have you. This is the first time I'm interviewing an actress who is indigenous. Let me call it indigenous. So, I'd like to understand you developed interest in doing kikuyu films. Why and not the English and Swahili films? The Swahili ones, yes. Okay, I also do Swahili ones. Nivenye sayi, kila mitu akuna starting pointi ake. And kikuyu, ndiyo langwe jenye nimi mekwaniki tumia for long. So, I was so comfortable with kikuyu. Sosa unaji ui up on your confidence liku meni fiki kisha by then. But right now, nimi anza kwa kiku Swahili and English. So, kikuyu was kind of a safe zone for you in the beginning. Yeah, it was a very safe zone for me. You have a very interesting story about how you build your confidence. And that's why we decided we are going to call this life on the big screen because it's not very normal to find someone who is so introverted, quiet, maybe afraid of people becoming an actress. So, can you let us know how this happened? Okay, I was never afraid of people. Kwanza niku korekti kidogo. But nili kwa anga na lo self-esteem sana. Kozi avenye. Okay, siyesi seman waza zi kona Very wonderful parents, mum and dad na wapenda sana. But watuengi areae tu wali kwa anga wana. Situi, they never used to believe in me since I was a kid na wali kwa na nikompea sana na my sisters and brothers, sana sana na my sisters. So, uki wamto, inakila wamto ako zileza, ah, wambo. Na kuna maaluna eza henda. Ums, tia na tana kanga haji. Ata ufa nani na mada daza kwa. Your sisters are more beautiful. So, when you start hearing such things, uki wam toto, ah, God, ni hektikos. Sosa, by the time, sosa wekutoku wam dogu na jua, you can do na thing, you look bad. Nuna jua kwa madame looks. Yes, it means a lot, yeah. Na takaka kwa ambi wana kilamtu, you look good. Yes. So, uki wakato ina umegro na, yo, kitu nili kwa anga zileza. Oh my God, I can do nothing. But mum and dad, walu kwa na ni believe sana, walu kwa na ni aminiakila kitu. And I thank God for them. So, how did this take us through the process in which your mentality changed? Was it the high school you went to? Which high school did you go to? What have you studied? Which school are you representing? We'd like to know. Okay, I went to Moigals High School Kamaangu. Well, great. National School, Fibchezo. All right. Sosa ukondio nili somia. Nasa su na ju ukiwa, okay. Ukiwa niyo stafia low self esteem. Ata hui zi participate in anything, nili kwa anga zileza na sema. Nasa kia anga mum na dadua kisema na eza act ju. Hom na kwa mutwa makelele. Niki ngia kila mutwa na checka kwa ziato witu kovituko. So, they used to tell me na eza act, but at a high school su kwa na interest ya kujo in drama kwa sosa ni kwa na ele truth. Nini na ju wa nili kwa na sema. I'm not good enough for that. I can't do anything of such. So, ata siku fiki ri anga kwengiya drama. So, nika matiza tu fomfo, niki ya miningivo. I was afraid of participating in anything. Ata kusimama mbelele watu kwa zi nili kwa na ona. Kitu angetu na eza enda, poni seme, ata ita makes sense kwa anyone. So, nili kwa na jikea kila kitu na niyangu. Sosa after fomfo, nika join Mt. Kenyon University. Nika fanya procurement, ikonakuru. Apon diyo nili just circled from everyone ikonakuru. So, ukon diyo nili discover my talent. Apon diyo nili gain confidence kwa zi na nili patama job mingi after kumaliza shule with procurement, batama lady. So, kuli kwa anga na... Ono jwa challenges na niya watu na face. I don't know these challenges. You have to let us know as we're in the morning family. We'd like to understand. What are some of these challenges there? Kusumulu wasana na ma boss. So, I had to quit jwa job zote. And I was like, oh my God, what am I going to do? Sorry, sorry. What do you mean kusumulu wasana na ma boss? You know, ma boss veniwa na mbi anga mitu. You have to do this, you have to do this. Uchabidu chagu eka zi or you date me. And I can't. Kuli na na bringing yungu ma mami and dad nima pasi. Singe zwa nili kwa tu na jwa it's wrong. So, option yungu nili kwa kukuit. Na nili kwa anga zileza, oh my God. Sos after a pantafanya ni nikoz. Exactly. Na ni job tatu, but then ni kariyalize. It was good. Wait, wait. You quit 3 jobs? Yeah. Goodness. Ni kariyalize. Oni risk taker. Na nili kwa zi nili kwa anga zileza. Ah, watu wana nifuwata na veniwa minisurambaya. Ah, watu wana nifuwata na nini nambiyangu am not good enough. Ni nini nwa na wana kwangu. By the way, let's just stop right there. Westisurambaya. Ya, sayi, sayi. Let's just get that out of the way. Sayi ya tamutroki ni nambiyangu minisurambaya. Uhum. Sita kwa sajibu. Alright, anyway, kariyalize. So, after that ni kaka home and I was like, what am I going to do? Ni kaka kumbuga. Ni kaka enda home, tukafanya a drama in church and everyone was like, wow, wambo. Ia beata wufaikuwa, pauna fakuwa kwa screens and kuzuna acti poa. So, when I went back to Nakuru, ni kawana a friend of mine ame semakuna auditions flani one after actresses. Ni kaka kumbuka. Ni liyambua church nasa acti. So, ni kakenda audition and ni kachukuluwaya kwanza. But, aw, ni wenye wa kushu tanafutu movies that wutoki. But luckily, a friend of mine na kani connect with a guy kiki mwanawaya beneza. Kiki mwanawaya beneza. Ya. Ni liyanda ni kafanya movie moja sasa kani ambia, wow, yunis you are a great actress. So, yi o time we were doing that indaito ameja hasan tukafanya yi o movie kutawanja kusulikuwa nanjasaana. Atata cha kulongi kula one meal after three days unafraia, you're like, oh my god, me survive. Oh, no, no, no. Ya ni life became that hard. Even eating three meals was a blessing. At three meals. Mi ni kikula food level na ni kulekensho. Lugwa na ni mujiza. Nasi kwa anata kaku sumbuwa waza zi wangedi sa idea, but skuwa na ta kua sumbuwa sana. But ni kiyona it was too much, I was calling them. Sisa ndi o tukafanya a movie nikanza kuza kwa streets. Ukiyenda uko tina uko challenges ndi ozaidi. Ya. But tukain dileivo that guy a kani mentor, a kani mentor, a kani ambi wukuna talent na unahitaji coachings flani. Dio tukanzaku nda to talk skidogo na trenu about self esteem. And I was like, oh my God. Kumbeni mekua. This was the devil who was trying kuni hinda from fulfilling my purpose. Kus the moment I realized there is something in you anakule tteyanga vita flani dio we get discouraged. Ya, una kua discouraged. Kus unona sisa even though sikuwa nda na izakutokieta umbelewa watu kuwaktu. It was ndi na ya ningefanya. So ndi o nikanza muwiza kikuyu by then. Let me ask you, how did you learn your infamous role on Kamiimei TV's Bogi Matu? Okay, I'll just say it was ndi wikua two connection ya God kus. I remember ndi o ni meet na mutu mania lini connect ndi o ndi mas kuzenye sasani wikua nimi ndi meanzakufanya mejahasan and I had nothing. There was a show ndi kuwame kakuhoteliflani wana nda uko. ndi kaitama bishtizangu ndi kawambia tuta nda kuna place ndi meona kuna a friend of mine Godja, Godja, this is Bogi Bogi Matu. This is you in action. That's me. Ah, great. Ya, so ndi kawambia let's go to one ndi kato nizapata usaidizi kadi amia that is a wastage of time I can't go ndi nda pekeako ndo ndi just kuwana pesa ndi kopa ndi nda zima ndi nda ndi meva vizuri my sister oh, I love her so much my small sister ndi ndi pigi asimi ndi kawambia ndi ambusi nda ngo smart ndi pale dress yako ndataka kwen do audition ndataka kwen do audition but ndi ki nda hukua nda jua kututungo doangua kisi yazi chukuliwa ndi kaka kapa kila kitu kutuka pesa yanoele ndi paka fea nda ngo ndi zoto yazi kuwaza okey so I went there ndi kawangianawana of the guy nda kani yambia oh, kuna shona fanya but nisha panga budget so wekuja niku peka role but this time uta lipo but next time uta lipo ndi kawambia nda danyatua pendangi kuski aiyo ndi kawambia it's okay ndi kawambia it's okay so ndi ka nda show kaza a la fundi oni ka ingiwa peru leo ever since you got this role what has been the reaction from all your haters and all your fine haters oh my haters kusapna one of my aunti nda likuwa nga yeah, she never believed in me she was the first one to call me nda kuni yambia hey, I'm totally joking nda bison hey, wow wow so I was like wow God thank you kusofa nda smis siyezi seman ingufuzaungu siyezi seman ingufuzaungu kus munguamekua na mimi and oh by the way ndi oman ndi likuwa na tolewa kwa zile job nda kini direct kwa mai papas so everything nda tuna patanga in life kusikuwa unu lisa oh God why kusizote in nili kua na liya nashanga oh God why kwa ni na piti zizote but later ndi oni gajua likuwa na takani ingiwa kwa acting nda interesting so any more roles you have lined up nda zotukwa na kusho ingiwa iya mutani ona kus right now nda waka on kusahili shows nda nda zio na Ali next year nda nda plania kwa ni gani Christmas nda zikuwa chabilo kabilo utwambia yop oh my God that's a hard one nda but ya plans just nda panga bado nda but ya hantajua utajua ok for somebody who is struggling nda kwa come away with for example nda come up what do you have or what words of advice what can you tell them nda nda you inspire them for 2019 ok more risks ok mina is awambia like you continue working hard trust in God usilali atu kwa kitanda ok umgoji Mira kwa zi happen it doesn't work that way uji amini kwanza kama uji amini kama vinyanili kwa kitambo you can do nothing but the moment you believe in yourself trust God live everything to God nda never compromise kwanza ladies kwa zi oni atu sana nda God will always work with you na penda banyu ume se ma ladies na na paka short film pali una se ma respect pregnant women can you tell me about this nimeo na po captions watua kise ma very many things wo nimio na po boy child nga fba can you tell us the origin of this particular film e e ituli fanyaizi nda tuli patana as we were walking home with my friends Tukawana watu wali kuwana misti shits pregnant women Na tukafil vibaya sana Kus awa tuni, our mothers Kila mtu wali bewa na mama li kwa kwa tumbo So, tukafil vibaya na tukawana we have to do this clip At least to Ya ni Kwa wali kuwana fanya ki tukamayo Kwa it's very bad So what was the response you got after doing this particular film Na na po bocha na miongafi vibaya sana Una juwa kuna wadru wana chukulianga Kila kitu wuzuri na kuna kitu aikosaangi haters That's true Ya, so watu wangi wali appreciate Ya, and we thank God at least to li truly fanya chinen kuwana taka So I'm seeing you also acting with a papa So you also wish to change some things in society What else do you feel we need to pay attention to Now that we've seen there's a lack of respect for pregnant women Is there anything else that you have identified Especially with regards to women That you'd like to raise awareness about Ya, kama right now I'm also working with Stanford Records Their sales and marketing manager right now Sasa Sato li pata tu jobin gina Gosh Ziki fungu kazi na fungu kavizuri So with Stanford to kuna ministry Ya kuminista to people And mi personali na taka Kwa ladies fenyomenu liza Kus we have na feel Na I have to educate them on some issues Kama yo eni me kwambia Ladies wana fa at least waji amini No one should take advantage of them Na kila mtu wana fa jwe Ako na papa senya God alimpa ya At least wu jwangi you have to fulfill that papa Niku lize In the next five years Unis waji wana ataku awap Uno na mungo na kupelika awap God willing We will be the best actress in the world Una taka gramivi Awards But ya Awards that is And a great minister too Kama wili eni me sema My parents are pastors And I really admire them Beside acting I also want to preach the gospel to people Interesting I like that you said that you'd like to preach the gospel And your parents are pastors When they saw you acting these things What was their reaction? Oh my God They were very happy Ah ya Atak Nimi kwambia they are my biggest support Watu wali kwa nashanga In fact the first time wali ni onawali kwa zileza Nasi samama kwa nasema anini But my mum and dad were very happy Onimai iras Wali kwa Wali kwa very happy Kwa wana jwa ni kwa Kutoka ni kwa mtoi Nili kwa nawa entertain So atawali ni wali zawewe Uli yandakfanya procurement kwa ni Ah it's been a long time coming Interesting Not that you are a Christian And the home is a Christian home Are there some roles that you cannot take I've heard you saying that girls should not compromise Are there some roles that you can't compromise on as well Amma you're open to it Sayi wazung wakujiapa They are very notorious for that Wakujiapa create film Wali kutakwa na nuditi Strong language If the check is fat If the check is very good Let me answer that question this way As long as something doesn't glorify God Don't count me in I'm out So kuna role zingine zi Because you have your own stand Ya I have my own stand And ya Alright ok then we wish you the best Where can the fans find UNES WAJUGUNA UNES WAJUGUNA On social media Uza patikana kwa Facebook Uza like my page UNE ENJANE Na Instagram too UNE Alright ok So what words of advice do you have For this particular Christmas season Ami na izambia tu watu Tei shea na wa pendane Acheni watu wa sa idea maskini What was idea maskini What was self centered What was self centered At least to sa idea na What do you plan to do On the first day of 2019 First day of 2019 That's a hard one Maybe it's a family Let me just say that Ya because It's a good thing kwa na family When pray God our take through Or that year Do you have any resolutions For next year I know it's a very cliche question But do you have any resolutions Oh my God What do I say Ya ni mingi Uka na mingi Tupatia tano What's up I'm a tattoo guy Please no pressure Oh God First of all Na taka I'm getting into production Sa isom tangoja Tena I'm doing my music We stanford records Ya end Piya tunanzo ministry Yajin me kwan bia And ya Kuvizi children home We must share Yobaduni philosophy To stanford Ya in some of me Few friends Isu zingine Ustam bia badai Ustam bia badai Now there's a fan here Who is asking Are you dating So no no Meshindo kijambe Na ma fans were just Slide into the DM So are you single Or are you available For 2019 Oh God Can you please leave that one out Ujaki kusema Okay So guys know the options Are open No no no That's an answer already Alright Okay sawa sawa I'd like you to wish The fans a Merry Christmas Or a Happy New Year And then we can leave Entrepreneurship Tuesday In Eza Isha My name is Hilda Wadidi And we have been here With Eunice Wajahona From Bogewa Mato I'm really enjoying this one Yes we've been talking A little bit about How she got on the big screen And now it's about time We conclude this segment You've been watching Entrepreneurship Tuesday Which runs from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. From Mondays to Fridays So make sure you do catch up with us Are you presenting for us It's very mo At Kalamival At Joy Mocha Che Make sure you do catch up with us So I will let Eunice Wajahona You know Tell the fans Happy New Year I wish you Happy New Year And Happy festive season Alright Yeah