Good evening everyone, I'm Stella and this is my this is our project just you know few of my friends you know make it like for energy monitoring so I'll be talking about for the goal and basic theory and the power measurement and the demo so the goal for this project is to give insight into power usage in our home so if we have this chart then we can if we know what we consume then we know what we can save so home energy audit and of course save energy but these are the read these are not just the reasons why I pursue this project it's climate change I think it's most likely that this is the reason why this project is being yeah so these are the two of my friends working on this project he's this is Kiran and the other other side is Peter there there yeah so basic theory you know that AC and DC DC is constant AC is coming back and forth so in power measurement there are three flavors this the apparent power reactive power and the real power to fully understand this I think this is the best analogy you have a mug so your mug is your mug is the capacity of your equipment and the beer is the stuff that you want this is the real power so the foam is actually the reactive power which does not do any work on the system for a reactive for a capacity sorry inductive load like motors reactive power is much greater so for instance I'm sorry for instance you have a motor rated as 200 kva at 230 volts if it's fully resistive this is the amps but if it's inductive it takes 108 extra extra current which goes into the magnetic the magnetic field of the inductor it magnetizes the motor which causes reactive power losses so of course we want to maximize the power so the left one sorry the right one is better than the left one yeah I'm a beer person so just a basic so to measure power in here we just need two parameters for actually this is the first iteration of this project we don't really we don't really mind positions for this one so it's just power voltage and current so this is the formula we're only concerned about the two because having one of these you can derive from from those formula so RMS and peak is so this is how you measure it using on-shelf equipment but yeah warning for the voltage measurement it can kill you this is the plug diagram basically you have a line 230 VAC at 50 Hertz so the circuit it has two circuits for the AC voltage measurement and the AC AC current measurement for this one we use the invasive Hall IC sensor but you can see from there that there is a isolator it is very important because this one is connected to the mains so without this here you possibly be dead if you touch anything on the board and this is your load in parallel so the circuit sorry this is just the current and the wave voltage and current wave forms that three combinations leading lagging current so this is a circuit so basically a amplifier so from here from the main for the main AC voltage we divided this equivalent to one ohm we just get a manageable voltage current levels and then we put it into a different amplifier so this is what you get so from a larger waveform you minimize it and then you rectify it to improve the resolution of your ADC you can actually analyze this by lifting to a DC but I think it's best if you use this so you can fully use utilize your ADC resolution and just a filter after that so it goes to the ADC 0 of the MCU for the current measurement is just also a basic amplifier it's a linear so you can get here from 0 to 1 you can see the power supply for the op amp is ground to positive supply so the idea of the Hall sensor is very basic you have a current current across a conductor generates magnetic field and you have a Hall element which actually translated into a voltage which is in here this is the signal output from the IC so this is the box that we made this is the oh sorry this is the MCU and this is the isolator apparently this DC voltage from the op amp got busted so we need to replace it during testing this morning and took out our 0 cross detection so we're unable to under-frequency it's also necessary because we want to do proper power factor measurement it's not possible without having that rate yeah and for the safety side use the serial to us be here with two opto isolators on the board just fully electrically isolated so yeah that's it and actually the next iteration with that would be we're not going to use the ADC of Arduino because it's 10 bit you might use arm M7 to do digital signal processing and all those stuffs for phase and other measurements so demo demo yeah look at it oh I'm scared wait just a moment so questions nice I don't think I have the usd putty in here you might want to use these htmi powering the using the bleeding power off to 30 volts to the outside of us yeah what's powered to a couple of old phone supplies in here fed from this power lead phone supplies 5 volt phone chargers just smashed a few cases you know yeah I do things like that I have a big hammer I don't have the axe anymore it had to go wait a minute what's done wrong it's not let me log in yet can I put it in here yeah sure this is the heckish fist pulse repairable so that none of the PCs actually work mediation oh I don't know why it's not playing both display show me displays I don't find they're not showing anything no yeah come back Linux all is forgiven no it's just it's just not doing anything it's keep a boy it's not working now it's just not going to play ball with that thing no well all I've got on screen is just a simple read out of voltages and currents anyway it's not a huge amount so but my laptop's not going to talk to this I'll tell you what it is it's jealousy it's all this AI and computer intelligence see today my programmer needed a new computer so we got a system with 32 gigs of RAM and now my little baby is jealous I'm going to have to bring it down to similar man treat us some memory it'll be fine switch to Mac how dare you we're going to have a seance an intervention we're going to pay to the great god Google to rescue you from Apple look I'm an Android fanboy don't talk to me my other Android phones over there in the bag anyway there we go so that's where we're at at the moment with this little device but it's also got a more serious side we develop air conditioners and we're going IOT with the air conditioner so we decided why not go to whole hog we're building our own power supply systems anyway so I thought well let's embed the full power measurement so we can monitor power quality we're going to be used on island resorts using solar power etc so we're able to monitor all kinds of faults from there I have a motor becomes faulty your power factors change we can detect things like that our safe operating area shut down if you're powering a tree phase motor and we detect power loss or brown out on a single phase shut it down before it burns out so there you go and of course we had to drag pork during into the project because he's the guy who's now programming our air conditioners and that's why we had to get new computer Android studio I hear Android studio okay there we go folks no but we do have one more toy to show does it use hdmi separate display audio omega and some approach for measuring our outcome system it also got a pressure sensor as well as humidity so you guys can take a look at it and of course we use shrink tubing to color code the probes and use the color display so we know which one is which I'm sorry we've copied up like foam inside now we tested that using one of the lab systems at NTU and it surprised us the tolerance on all but one of the probes was less than half a degree across the temperature range between zero and I think 70 degrees so it's much better than expected yeah they're standard NTC probes and the joy of using Arduino and Google nowadays we're able to google almost all of the code we needed and just tacked it together then he put the display code in a few other bits together so didn't take long now that's the simple one our main test air conditioner it's got 160 of those NTCs in it it's got 10 stm32 computers and nano and an arm board what are the why so many sensors it's a 330 000 atmospheric water generating unit and it's this one's a scientific instrument so it's a first prototype and of course when you're working with a bunch of scientists from NTU they love data they love to torture me with data okay anyone have any announcements


The debris left behind from a supernova is called the supernova remnant. These remnants can form spectacular nebula, millions of times larger than planetary nebula. The crab nebula is a good example. Let's take a closer look at this famous supernova remnant. The remnant is six slight years wide and expanding at 1,500 kilometers per second. That's 930 miles per second. The orange filaments are the tattered remains of the star and consist mostly of hydrogen. Japanese and Chinese astronomers recorded this event nearly 1,000 years ago in 1054. It got its name because of its appearance in a drawing made by Irish astronomer William Parsons in 1844. The supernova's remnant neutron star is rotating like a lighthouse. It is ejecting twin beams of radiation that appear to pulse 30 times a second due to the star's extremely fast rotation rate. This kind of neutron star is called a pulsar. This Hubble image captures the region around the pulsar. It is centered on the region around the neutron star the rightmost of the two bright stars near the center of the image and the expanding filamentary debris surrounding it. Inside the shell is a blue glow that is radiation given off by electrons swirling at nearly the speed of light in the powerful magnetic field around the pulsar. Bright wisps are moving outward from the star at half the speed of light to form the expanding ring. It is thought that these wisps originate from a shockwave that turns the high speed wind from the pulsar into extremely energetic particles.


Yeah, so Chelsea, you know, did a really great kind of tour of, you know, Spiffy and the capabilities that it has and talk a little bit about the problems that we're trying to solve there. You know, there is this other project, which is the sister project called Spire, that is the software, a software implementation of Spiffy. So what I'm here right now to give is just an update on the Spiffy project alone, so not, you know, too focused on Spire. Augustine will give an update on the Spire project next. So this is more just about kind of like the Spiffy specifications and all the things going on in the Spiffy community in particular. So as the Mayor mentioned, my name is Evan Gilman. I'm a maintainer on both the Spiffy and Spire projects. I've been around those projects for quite some time now, almost four years. So effectively the beginning of the projects. And the first update that I wanted to share with you in the context of Spiffy today is about the, what we call the technical steering committee or the TSC. Let me see if I can write. So the TSC, as I mentioned, stands for the technical steering committee. And in the beginning, when we first started the project, the purpose of this group was really to kind of act as like a sounding board to make sure that the folks who were actually writing the code and writing the specs were kind of pointed in the right direction and, you know, ruined all in the right direction, but also kind of going towards this strategic goal. And to fulfill that purpose, the TSC was comprised of folks from the industry who have a lot of experience with this particular problem space. And we've seen them firsthand and understand what is needed in order to solve it well. But over time, the esteem gained in the project. The contributors and everyone else kind of gained a lot of understanding of the problem space and what works and what doesn't work. And so over time, as this happened in adoption, grew, you know, that original role of the TSC became less important. And they became less engaged on a day-to-day basis. But still there, you know, this technical steering committee group is still kind of codified in the project governance. But in this state that they were in, where they weren't being relied on so much, and the purpose that they were originally trying to fulfill is not as important as it used to be. You know, we have to kind of ask at some point, you know, is this body still needed? And if it is still needed, then what is it needed for? What should the responsibilities of that group be? You know, we have some rough ideas of what that group should be. You know, it's first of all, it's the only group with that kind of sits over the top of both the SPIFI project, the SPIRE project, and all the libraries and helpers and other kinds of things that fall under this big SPIFI umbrella. And because of that, they're positioned really well to give feedback to those individual projects, to coordinate across them, and also to do like gap recognition and things like that, where are things not being filled that we need to fill? So, you know, we think that this group is still valuable, but in order for it to deliver that value that we think that it could deliver, we need to formalize a lot of these, you know, responsibilities that I just described. And so what that really boils down to is that we're working on a new charter for the TSC to describe what those responsibilities are, what the goals of the group are, and really kind of write that down and formalize it as part of the project governance. Once that's done, we'll be in a position to evaluate the composition of the TSC. You know, so the group that we have serving on the TSC today is still the kind of original group from the very early days of SPIFI. And once we have this new charter, you know, we'll be in a position to say, look, is this group composition still ideal? And if not, what should it look like? You know, should there be vendors as part of this group? Should there be users as part of this group? Both of those things are none of those things. So all of that is being explored right now. And we're still, we're kind of in the early stages of getting all of this stuff codified in order to push it through the existing TSC group has stepped up their meeting cadence. And we hope to have that work wrapped up by early next year. Next, we have a couple of new SIGs. And SIG stands for Special Interest Group. And these are like long-lived groups of people who each group has their own kind of specific focus. They don't necessarily have a goal, you know, it's not like there's no real kind of like finite life cycle applied to it. It's more to kind of handle the ongoing concerns and areas of focus in the SPIFI-inspired projects and the related sister projects. We have two new SIGs that have formed in the last six months. First, we have one that's called SIG Community. And the focus of that SIG is the nurture and growth of the SPIFI community, you know. So it's everything from, you know, organizing events and webinars, educating people about SPIFI-inspired to, you know, the blog posts and Twitter accounts and all that kind of stuff and all the other outreach tools that we use to communicate with the community. It's also about ensuring that the community continues to be warm and welcoming and that everyone feels that they're welcome to be part of the SPIFI community, to point people in the right direction, point newcomers in the right direction. And finally, to measure that community growth and overall health. So we meet that SIG meets once every two weeks. I didn't mention, but if you'd like to get involved in many of this at the bottom here, I have the link to the Github, the SPIFI Github repo. If you go there on the read me, you'll find information about all of these recurring calls, how to join them, the mailing list, calendars, all that kind of stuff. So if you'd like to join the next SIG community call, you can find information there. Similarly, the TSD that I was just speaking about, those calls are also public and the call information can be found on the read me there. And next we have a new SIG called SIG SPIRE. And that SIG is focused on primarily SPIRE development and not necessarily kind of like day-to-day stuff and not really kind of to be used as a help channel more is kind of like a strategic channel, a venue where we can discuss various proposals to the SPIRE project coming in from the community to give high bandwidth discussion between the maintainers and the SPIRE users to share thoughts and ideas about the roadmap and the things along those lines. So that has been going on for a couple months now. It also meets every two weeks and the call is so far been very well attended. So these new SIGs, these two new SIGs are joining an existing SIG called SIG specification or SIG spec for short. And that SIG is focused on the maintenance and shepherding of all the specific specifications themselves. So including day-to-day maintenance of the existing specs and also development of new and upcoming specs. We meet generally bi-weekly and for the last year, so that group has been working on federation. And we are very, very, very close to finishing that work. There are a lot of questions about federation and Calcius Talk. And this is like a really important concept because what it does is it enables communication to happen across these different trust demands, this concept of different authorities or different sources of trust. There's always going to be more than one and maybe not in the same company organization, but between companies or it can also be in the same company or organization. How you do this is actually like loosely described in an existing specification, the existing SPIFI specification called the trust domain and bundle specification. And SPIRE actually already implements SPIFI federation. So you might be asking like, why do we need a new document for this? And the reason is because the existing definition that we have in the trust domain and bundle spec is not very strong. It likes the path to how to accomplish it and is enough for someone to get going and get it working. As I mentioned, SPIRE already has it. But the language that is currently there is not strong enough to guarantee interoperability between different SPIFI providers or different SPIFI implementations. So that's why we're working on this new doc which has much stronger language and a lot more clarity and detail about exactly how this should be accomplished, what is allowed and what is not allowed. With the goal there ultimately being to enable this interop. But we're going to talk more about how federation actually works in a later talk today. So what's left in this work so far is I would call the existing, like what we've got so far to be feature-complete. It's been feature-complete for quite some time. What we're working on now is primarily like the structure of the document, the clarity of the text, making sure that all the questions have been answered and that kind of stuff. And so we're on kind of like this last push right now to get it out the door and get it done. So we've stepped up the cadence of that call as well we now meet weekly. Again, if you'd like to get involved in that work, you can find the call information at the GitHub repo. And we hope to be done with the spec in fairly short order. And then looking forward, once that's completed out the door, we have a couple things on the radar for SIG spec. We've received a lot of questions from the community about claims. SPIFI currently allows claims to be set on its S-fibs. And by allow, I mean, it doesn't really like forbid them. It also doesn't say that you have to use them. And it also doesn't define them. So what we're exploring now are use cases to try and figure out if that's good enough or not. Does SPIFI need to codify a claim definition at the spec level for any reason? And if so, what does that mean for interoperability between trust domains and between different SPIFI implementations? Or is it okay to just leave it to different implementations to do as they please? Next, there's a fairly strong desire for what is loosely known as token 2.0. And if I were to describe this, it's basically what we're looking for is we're looking for something like a Jot. We're looking for a security token that can be transmitted at layer 7 at the application layer so it can punch through proxies and things like that, like Kelsey was talking about. But we're looking for something with better properties. So I think Jot falls short in two different ways right now. The first is that they're easily replayed. So somebody who sees a Jot can grab it, copy it, and stick it on a different request and replay it and act as if they are the original caller. We would like to prevent that. If at all possible right now, we mitigate by having really short lifetimes so that they expire relatively quickly. But we're exploring concepts around being able to bind a token to a particular request so that if it was replayed, it could only be replayed with the same request that it was originally issued against. Another thing that we're looking at is how we can delegate signing of these tokens right now in order to get a token. You have to go to a centralized authority to get one signed for you. This comes with performance implications. It comes with availability implications and all of those things we manage and inspire but it's not ideal. So we're exploring methods and ways that we might be able to have those minting and signing operations be distributed such that we can get better performance and availability properties out of it. But all of that is pretty hypothetical at the moment. There's still a lot of exploration to be done there and we're not quite sure what that's going to look like. But one thing we know is that there's a lot of interest on both within Spiffy Maintainership and from the community as well. Finally, maybe just speaking for myself a little bit, I think we could take a short break. The last one year of Federation work has been pretty tiring for us or for me in particular, I guess. And so once Federation has done, we're hoping to dial the cadence back a little bit as we go into more of this kind of research and discovery mode of these different things that I've spoken about here. There's always going to be kind of ongoing maintenance overhead associated with the existing specs. So of course, we continue to meet for those things. But the volume there is decidedly quite a bit less than the volume one for developing a new spec. So that's all I've got for Spiffy updates. So I'll stop and see if there are any questions about any of that. Yeah, I know we have a bit tight on time, Evan. So if are there any questions, maybe you can take one. There's one by Sunil. Evan, do you see it? What is the timeline for having development work for Federation development work? Well, I mentioned that the Federation is actually already available in Spire. And the implementation that Spire has is very, very, very similar to what the specs are working on now. And if you go and look at the existing trust domain and bundle spec, you'll see that we actually talk about how Federation can be accomplished. And we point you in the right direction. So this new spec is just kind of about crossing the T's and dotting the I's and, you know, being really, really clear about what kind of what aspects of this are going to be required in order to get interoperability. In terms of timeline as to when that spec will be finished. It's hard for me to say. Like I said, we stepped up the cadence to try and get it out the door sooner rather later. But we are rolling into the holidays. You know, so it would be nice to see it before the end of the year. But we'll see. In the meantime, I recommend you go read the trust domain and bundle spec. You can also read the Federation spec that we're working on if you join this expect Google group. And you can also you can also go and check out the implementation that's in Spire and see how we've been out there.


Testing testing. How's that? How's that guys?  Oh my gosh anyway Anyway You've only been here 40. Okay, that's fair. It's not your fault then man Well, I was talking about the national championship earlier and all that time people just saw So over but I was saying that Michigan will probably win because they feel like the more complete team Washington has a really good trick in their passing attack But Penex is gonna have to have an insane game for them to even have a chance and even then that might not be enough That's on me That's on me. Oh, okay. I was audible. It was just extremely quiet Yeah, I had my game turned down because Whenever I'm talking normally it's coming through I Go into an audio interface and it goes out to headphones and it also goes out to my speakers and If I don't have my speakers turned down like if normally through the day I'm listening to music But if I don't have like the mic or the speakers turned down, there's like feedback and I can hear every little tap that I do It's just annoying. Oh my god. He was wide open It's okay now. I'm not I'm not doubting Michael Penex, Jr. And what he could do in this game, but I'm just saying it might not be enough There we go. Good coverage. Good coverage Second and goal I'm gonna send a heater here It's risky because this is kind of a weak zone, but There we go. There we go, and it's incomplete. How about that third and goal? Let's get the stop here Let's get the stop here. Oh they're They're definitely running it to which side I ask though. Oh, they're not running it They're not running it and it's incomplete fourth down. How about that now? If only our offense could put up some points Then we'd be cooking Then we'd be cooking. How about that? What? We have a game That's all we need. We just need whenever we can get a stop. We need to be able to put points up Good tackle Good tackle. Who is that? I couldn't really I couldn't quite see the name there We're 17 on the Patriots. I'm like totally blanking on Bang oh, come on. I gotta blow him up there. I gotta I gotta I gotta knock his socks off I gotta rock his world Third and one they're going shotgun here, but I feel like this is a draw just inside zone typical typical All right Back in the first down under center. Look is that two tight ends? Handing it off. That's a pretty good run They're loving this they're loving given the ball to Najee. They're loving it Same look same play First down Disgusting I don't know what I'm we have such a hard time stopping it and I guess I'm like I'm only calling the coach suggestion so it's like Maybe we just need better play calls, but I mean dog. He's got they are gashing us right now Five yards six yards six yards eight yards. We've had a couple of good stops though This feels like a pass Najee's tired And they're throwing it to Najee there get a big hit on him, but now he gets the first down That's the time to force the fumbles when he's like Keeling over in the backfield. I think they've got worn back there now Could be a pass here. Yep dropping straight back Slants look good tackle there And we're dropping like flies. We can't have this We cannot have this All right, they've got two receivers out to the opposite side to my right Drop them back to throw here Hidden Friar mutes underneath Way too many yards after the catch there. We've got to have guys there to make the tackle All right, it looks like I'm playing the underneath stuff here. Oh Bring him down. What are you doing? This is embarrassing this why can't we tackle? Why can't Now they're taking me out of the end they're gonna go goal line and then they're gonna score anyway Okay, we at least got a field goal and another field so it's a one-position game It's a one-position game, but considering our lack of touchdowns this year I doubt we're getting a touchdown and a two-point conversion, but it won't matter unless we can get a stop here We need that first play action There's Najee get there not horrible Not horrible. Who do you think is winning the national champ? I've put Michigan on a few lines. I Think it'll probably be Michigan Like I said at the beginning of the live. I think they're a more complete team I think you're asking a lot out of penics and it's not unthinkable that he delivers but Even if he has an outstanding game, which I think he's capable of he's a tremendous passer It might not be enough like they have one trick. It's a great trick, but Michigan can do a lot Michigan's run games good Blake Corm is so legit. I Think Blake Corm is gonna be a really good NFL player and that's just like from like seeing him in game like My I might change my mind once I actually start to watch the tape on him, but From what I've seen so far. I think he's gonna be nice Jesus man, we can't cover. We can't tackle. We can't rush the passer Michigan has a good defense the the real problem is that Washington probably doesn't have a good enough defense and That they're gonna have to get into a shootout and it's like who's more likely to get a stop in that scenario Yeah What are we? What are we guarding here? Why are we just guarding grass? This is embarrassing well lucky for you the new new Madden will come out in What what will it be? What one month is it January? You've got you've got a you've got a few months Just get it. It's fun. No one's coming to my side of the field They're completing big passes Dog, I mean, this is just horrid I'm just sending a blitz. We're gonna go man blitz man blitz Good tackle. There we go. No yards. All right now zone. We're just blitzing every play blitz blitz blitz Blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz come up make the tackle He's getting the ball out quick because we're blitzing gotta come up and make the tackle Ah All right, not exactly a blitz blitz blitz, but you know No one to my side. No one to my side and he's wide open. He's wide open They just run all the routes away from me and they get wide open every single time How many times have they done that where we go zone and they just run all the routes away from me? No, I I Really only play if I play online. I'll play like online head-to-head right now. I'm just doing like a It's not a franchise per se. It's like the superstar mode and I'm a corner for the Patriots. I Normally oh Come on. I normally don't do a whole lot of like streaming with online head-to-head I don't know I could consider it just wait until NCAA comes out. That's what everyone that's what most people are doing I'm excited for the NCAA game a little bit nervous.  I'm gonna be upset, but I Think it'll I think it'll be a pretty good game Yeah, madden being ultimate team focused is not Ideal it's an ultimate team is very like either you put in hours upon hours of work or you pay to win It's like either a full-time job or You need a full-time job just to like support your team So you're paying rent just for your team to like be competent Throwing the ball here. They're throwing it quick man, but at least I'm coming up and trying to make the tackle We're getting crushed right now. I just I just want one stop. I just want one stop One stop. There's took out someone's knees there. That's on me dog That's on me. I Didn't mean to I swear Oh, they're gonna take this to the quarter probably. Oh, no, they won't okay. Hold on Bro, how many guys are getting hurt? How many guys are gonna get hurt in this game? I can't live like this Can't live like this They're moving I flip in the whole formation here Oh, they're going empty now. Okay. Hold on Jesus Can you pick it? 374 yards for touchdowns Now they're gonna take me out of the game on the goal line and guess what they're gonna do. Guess what they're gonna do wait Wait a second Wait a second. Do we have a blitz here? We're sending a heater. Oh, there we go. I Know we allowed the completion, but like we got the stop and that's all that matters. All right one more stop. Come on We still have a chance So he realizes he can't throw against me. So he just throws to the other side and it's a touchdown Five touchdowns for Kenny Pickett today How many touchdowns for Mack Jones or Bailey's appy? How many do you think? We'll check after but how many do you think leave your guesses? We're sending blitzes and they're just not getting home Najee Harris has run for over a hundred yards in a touchdown Just so sad Tragically sad. I just keep blitzing and just keeps not getting home. All right only three yards there That's one of the more positive run-stopping plays. We've had I don't know why we keep coming out in these very past centric coverages and they just keep running the ball and they just keep picking up eight yards and Everyone keeps getting hurt on Both sides There we go. That's a stop, but they're in field goal range So it's not like it's a total win We scored How about that how about that we scored points gross Gross Just the worst man. Just the worst. Do you know bad? Do you know ugly? This is?  I guess I guess we'll take it. It doesn't really help us that much. I Assume it's a run. I'm just gonna I'm gonna sell out for the run here Yep, I know exactly what it is Look at that zero yard game. We know it's a run Don't ask why I'm like trying to get the ball back here. I think it's just for like morale at this point We know what it is.  All right.  All right. All right GG's we got dog walked by Pittsburgh. I think we've allowed 40 points in back-to-back games Look at my player grade though a plus a plus I Don't I don't see anyone else getting an a-plus I don't even want Mac Jones through to through two touchdowns. How many picks did he throw? How many picks do you throw big Mac three picks? See the difference 29 to 48 three picks 31 of 39 five touchdowns Why doesn't my quarter why doesn't why doesn't my quarterback play like that? Why can't my quarterback play good? I feel like I don't ask for a lot. I Mostly just ask for my quarterback to play good.  Do I dare have any sort of hope I Think I'm just gonna go for like straight speed and then I can just sell out And then hope to recover later. Um, I guess I can I'll do strength too and then I have this wide open Plus two speed. Let's go. Okay. Okay. We're looking pretty good Plus three speed plus three strength Let's let's get it man. All right. I'm locked in No mistakes zero zilch man Blitz Don't blitz Patrick Mahomes. He's throwing against me man He doesn't know what he's up against It's a four-yard game by Pacheco Not sure how much I like that. All right, you already know I'm not scared of this guy. We should be scared of their run game though. What is this? Seven carries by Jerick McKinnon be so serious Why why do we not have real underneath coverage? What do I have to do? My homes is putting up 90. I guess man like what is the Wait, where why are we backing up so far? Bros 30 yards Bro is backing up 30 yards at the snap Sprinting backwards Okay, that's not bad coverage second and five This is Horrible.  Of course. He is of course. He is I'm gonna make him pay though. I'm gonna make him pay here pretty soon. Oh, okay. I Thought I blew him up, but I didn't quite but I set the edge pretty well there and I helped secure that tackle And that's all that matters Because that could have been a big-time score Okay, okay First and goal at the one they're gonna take me out. They're definitely taking me out. Yeah They're going goal line here. We'll see if they can we'll see if they can get the stop. We'll see I Don't have the highest hopes Yeah Yeah, that checks out that checks out and we gave him the ball back at the 15. All right, man Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah one play touchdown. We gave him the ball back at the 15. What are we doing? What are we doing on offense, man? And then what is the other side of the defense doing? Like I can't I can't get over there to stop that.   It's a good tackle. You got the first down He's seven percent. He's not going to throw in incompletion.  That's a good tackle second and six They're going bun shotgun Could be a run to my side. I'm ready for it It's not I was also ready for the corner I'm always ready for that kind of stuff, but they just keep throwing it away from me nine for nine The offense does just need to be better I mean them giving the ball them the ball to 15 was just an inexcusable, but this drive has been solely on the defense Come you got you got to come up underneath on that. I Had the over the top. I had Kelsey coming back Second in two they take me out of the game because it's kind of short yardage They score and then our offense does nothing Did we just go three and out? Oh, no, we didn't go three out We turn the ball over in our own territory again What do we we got to stop this this has to stop this has to stop. Oh my god This has to stop Turning the ball over twice in our own territory We just can't live in this world man. All right. I've got the flats here, but There is the worry of a whole shot. So I'm yep. Yep This is first in completion. Oh my god Even knows possible he ran away from me They're gonna take me out of the game because it's two yards. Yep They're gonna go goal line set and they're gonna score again. Please tell me. It's not what I think it is Okay, it's in there. Oh, it's about us.  Oh my god. I can't believe my homes missed that Wide open up the seam Why do why do they just have like no concept of like? Hold number two and then if number one goes vertical, then you can close on that, but But you have to split number two and number one And you have to be aware of number two going vertical number two going vertical is more crucial than number one because If number two goes vertical, oh my god, we got to stop if number two goes vertical and You're on number one you're gonna have a much harder time than if number one goes vertical and you're on number two Because you could just speed turn get back outside It's a much easier gap to close And it's a further throw for the quarterback like I just We didn't score off of that stop, but we got a stop Good coverage. There you go. I was a little nervous. I didn't even know I had no reaction in the moment because I was just I Was just gonna wait. I wasn't gonna react. I was just Gonna wait and see. All right, man. All right, man That's cool That's cool, man Nice Great great job defense. All right six yards there. Maybe I just need to be a better leader. Maybe that's it. Maybe I'm just not I'm just not captain material, you know, right?  Thanks, man I mean so much it would help if our offense would score It would help but that's too much to ask That's too much to ask our offense to actually put points on the board You know This is almost certainly a run, right? No, it's not Just embarrassing, man Just embarrassing point blank period rpo Let's all right two minute warning Before halftime let's just breathe.  We're gonna figure it out. You see how I like travel I don't just drop straight back What what is andy reed doing on the field andy andy get Did you see that andy reed was on the field? He didn't get the first down I got distracted. I was looking at andy reed He was on the field Yeah, look at him Bro's like almost on the field Come on throw it Of course they get it Hey, at least at least my home doesn't have like 90 touchdowns like we thought he would But it is almost 40 points at halftime Oh That was almost a huge hit It's sort of close on those because it's hard to tell exactly if he's going to go outside or go up field All right. I've got the flats now Flipping the play running back and kelsey are over here. So I've got to be aware of those guys Oh See, that's not on me That's not It's a whole shot like it's a tough play I've got to be aware of both the outside at the outbreaking route and the running back Now I'm not now. I don't have to be aware of the running back Well, I guess I have to because it's mckinnon, but you You know what I mean. Oh, he's wide open, man This is nuts. This is nuts 42 to 7 at half. We got nothing for these guys, man. We've got nothing We've turned them Four turnovers. Are you joking? Are you joking? Are you joke four turnovers? Are you joking? Four turnovers one touchdown Can't happen Just it's just sad It's really just sad I don't think they're joking me neither, man. I wish they were I wish it was a prank I miss the tackle. I'm horrible I think I'm allowed to have like one bad play. I've been playing perfect coverage all game I have one sub par One sub par play This is just this is the worst I can't imagine a worse scenario than Then this game, I mean, this is it's truly perfect coverage By me I'm playing the deep zone there. I I can't be expected to guard that We have guys underneath for a reason All right, they got Kelsey out wide I'm here, man I dare you Oh, oh He was out of bounds though. I'll say that's that's a really tough play to make He was out of bounds No way. Okay third and six third and six I think they'll uh throw it here I'm hoping Give us a chance to get a turnover. Maybe me probably not put us back in the game, but maybe Maybe oh no, he dropped it fourth down a drive that doesn't end in a touchdown No way No way Oh, they got no points We got points. We're back, baby. We're so back All right, we just got to get a stop here. They're gonna run it. They're gonna run at my side too ready They didn't run at my side, but they did run it They got a billion yards out of it. They got 14 trillion yards out of that run. This feels like a pass Nope, it's a run I forced him back inside, you know Hard to ask me to do more than that Points allowed season rank eight I'm calling bullshit. I've played every game. There's no way we're eighth in points allowed No shot Maybe like I don't know. I just think there's there's no chance Why are we so committed to like letting teams run on us late in games a blitz there? Not a bad blitz a man blitz. Don't blitz my homes. I'll do what I want Because I'm not blitzing my homes. I'm blitzing Pacheco Let's be real and now they're probably gonna throw it here Why is the coverage on those so bad? Why Every single time every single time we get beat we get beat every single time on that route 100 success rate All right, so that's Games probably over do I have one more in me? I don't know man. Maybe Maybe I don't know if I can take much more of this losing RPO good tackle Good tackle run this deep drop cover four They better run four verts if this is what we're calling.  I was ready for the run. I don't know about everyone else. I was Not bad. There we go.  Jesus There we go. There we go There's 23rd rushing off and say we've given up 144 yards on the ground Yeah, man. We're getting crushed We're get we're getting dog walked You know the deal apparently I like absorbed the block But I allowed the other guy to get off the block and make the tackle Time out time out I'm not giving up And judon's hurt beautiful Beautiful great job team Great job I'm really proud of you guys today. You put in a lot of effort I know we got crushed for the third week in a row You know, it's really it's really not your guys's fault actually I got pancaked.  What one game I'm gonna play one more Oh, this is the playoff picture Uh, as you can see we're not in it Only a few more weeks left in this season And then I can all right plus two speed I will apply some skill points What can I upgrade like my My catching and my Tackling I mean those are really the big things Increased catch chance Also, maybe my block shedding too So actually we'll turn down catching I think block shedding is more important right now Catching we'll do that All right. All right Now we've got some Okay That's a vibe. I need to get another interception. Okay. I don't think I get that yet. Okay. Okay The best chance is injuring the other team enforcing them to forfeit You know You might be right We'll do a plus two hit power for this next game We're gonna be head hunting Denver This is a winnable game. We're one in 13. This is a winnable game. All right And you know what worst-case scenario we keep losing games and we get Caleb You know, that wouldn't be so bad Okay cover four off rip. They got a bunch look here They're dropping to throw I'm coming down on this bang He actually got killed he got picked up and he got Clobbered in midair and then he got body slammed a little soft soft squat coverage here They're running it though. Good tackle third down in one. All right All right, we can get off the field three and out on the first drive would be huge for us Watch the run It is a run. All right, we don't force the three and out. That's okay You know because it was close. It was close.  He's just standing there. He's just standing there. He's just standing there Nah, you see how long I passed this off for Why is he still running backwards? Look how far down the field he is This is 20 yards of separation. What are you doing? What are you doing? I I'm carrying this for as long as I can to prevent a whole shot But dog Come on That was a bad throw to that was an under thrown ball Music weren't looking and they're gonna get a touchdown here, aren't they?   What? I'm sorry. What?  Maybe that's what it is I can't be everywhere, man. I'm trying my best I'm trying to cover as much ground as I can. Can we score on offense? Please I choked I choked I choked I choked I choked it's so over It's so over. I choked it's so over I was so scared I was so locked in I was so scared It'd be great if we could put some points up Points would be outstanding right about now. Is that a false start? Let's go We're getting a break. We're getting Oh my god. Oh my god christian Gonzalez would a tackle All right. No, I gotta be gotta be quiet. I gotta be quiet locked in quiet locked in Watch the middle of the field watch the middle of the field Oh Oh my god. I thought for sure. I thought for sure he hit him. I was like that's a pick six That was a pick six in the making. Oh my god The being quiet not saying anything This is working Except the offense Still sucks Oh my god, we're getting stops Please please please Get points, please No, bro. This this isn't on we've gotten multiple stops bro I can't do everything. I can't I can't be everywhere All the time I'm in my zone No one else is in theirs Laquac says 31 28 washington on Again, I could see washington pulling it off just because their passing offense is so good And if they can go if they can really go throw for throw Um, and if they can force mccarthy to go throw for throw and They can force some mistakes because mccarthy is far from perfect But also washington's defense is not alabama's But if they can force some mistakes and go throw for throw and win that battle then yeah, they can win it But they're gonna need they're gonna need pennies to keep them in this game The running game being strong for both teams interesting I haven't heard that take yet. I mean, I definitely see michigan having a strong rushing attack Blake quorum is legit, but right now. I'm just trying to stop denver Come on ross. Throw it at me courtland wants it You see it Oh He's scared man. He's scared Did a bit of pick.  We can't score zero points Come on man. We didn't get Destroyed in coverage there, which is new. Are you not Forcing in completion there. I have to I have to wonder Oh my gosh No way we got bailed out like that No one's playing underneath, but He drops it And we don't score And we don't score Who would have thought man? Who would have thought that we wouldn't score? We're not going to score a single point this game. Are we second and eight? There we go. That's how you set the edge by the way Just destroy it. Just destroy the edge They keep sending Sutton on my side and guess who they keep Failing to get the football to Courtland Sutton They go screen here first down I can't I can't keep doing this man Come on Third and inches. All right We just need One stop one stop. It's all I'm asking for He hit the gap, but it was too late. He already got the first down He's got to play a little bit closer to the line of scrimmage On third and inches. Yeah This might be a pass I don't ask for a lot. Just good coverage From someone other than me There we go. Good tackle There we go. Come on man Come on Come on Watch courtland in the slot They hit the quick throw third and four I'll probably do something else quick here On this on this third down in medium Givante is still tired And what would you know? Oh, he almost got the first down there fourth and one They're in field goal range. Oh, they're going for it. They're going for it No way No way. They're going for this. Oh my god Givante is not in the game Oh my gosh Just gashed just gashed. There you go. Not a bad tackle Not a bad tackle there Oh Look at that setting the edge Like a pro Why are you getting away from the middle? You're moving away from you're moving away from the guy running the route You went away from him He cut in and you went the other way And we have no points. We have no points zero zilch Nothing positive to show For this outing Nothing Ball start Feel good to run that way Inside Second and nine I'm a corner I guess that's what happens You're not as good at tackling as your peers Ah I was a weak scream most because I'm It's just sad at this point, you know We give up 150 yards on the ground every week We give up 400 yards through the air every week and we give up 40 points every week The game day team picked michigan to win Yeah I feel like most people are gonna pick michigan They're probably the favorites I'd like to see washington win. I think that would be more fun I can get all the tackles in the world Doesn't matter Fourth and inches Hey Hey Will we score a point to this game? No, because they went for it and they got it and now they have it at the fight Oh, I thought I could get there but for some reason I just like fell straight down But I had to fight through so many guys just to even like get into position to make that play All right, man 40 40 points What is that four weeks in four games in a row that we've given up 40?  That's what's crazy That's the only bad coverage play I've given up 50 What was that two plays two plays on that drive? Oh my god, we scored points That'll never happen again Season rank this is like it said the same thing last week. There's no way we're top 10 In points allowed on defense No chance I've given up 200 yards on the ground. I think we're a top 10 defense and points at like no No chance delay of game offense How about that?  You know what I might do it too It could be fun Give me Washington over third in inches Yeah, I hope you took the givante william over in this game, man They do have they do have nice receivers, man And panics is good They could win, man They really could they've they've got they've got the horses That's game I'm not gonna wrap up this live stream.  Anyway, thank you all for tuning in. It's been an absolute pleasure. I hope you all enjoy the college football playoff national championship Between washington and michigan And until next time I will catch you guys I was again They could just let the clock they they didn't need to line up in another play here. All right now The game's over. Thank you all for tuning in and I will catch you on the flippity flop. This is horrible


The next item of business is topical questions. In order to get in as many people as possible, I would prefer short and succinct questions and answers to match. Question number one, I call Stephen Kerr. Thank you, Presiding Officer. To ask the Scottish Government what support it is giving to NHS boards that are under pressure. Cabinet Secretary, Humza Yousaf. As members will be aware, the health and care system is under extreme pressure due to the pandemic, and all health boards are experiencing significant issues, including workforce challenges and high levels of delayed discharge. As members will know, we've invested an additional £300 million, a package of measures to support health and social care services over the course of the winter period. Over and above that, and to maximise capacity during winter, we've invested £10 million in two new specialist programmes that aim to provide alternative submission, and that process is a right to ensure a timely discharge. I begin by paying tribute to everyone who is working on the front line in our NHS, but I was really hoping that we might get more about the measures that the Government is taking to give immediate practical support to the health boards and our front line NHS staff and our care staff indeed. The winter plan should be about practical support, not press releases. How many people are waiting for a care package to be discharged from hospital, and what is the longest time that people have been waiting to be discharged? I'll get him the exact figures for giving me, I don't have them to the top of my hand, but he's right to focus on the issue of delayed discharge. That is where that £300 million of investment is, and it isn't just press releases, and I think that he would know that. It is, of course, practical action, and what we're looking to do through that practical action is, for example, recruit a thousand band two to fours. Those individuals will help us for those who are waiting for care at home. What we're also looking to do is fund care home placements—internum care home placements—so, again, where those individuals who are clinically safe to discharge will be discharged. I meet health boards on a very regular basis. They've got a range of meetings this afternoon, tomorrow afternoon, with those health boards that have the highest numbers of delayed discharges. I can promise him that that practical action is what I hope is making a difference, and it's maybe why, although figures are nowhere near where we would like them to be, it's maybe why, for the last three weeks, we've seen an improvement in any performance. With the grace of respect to the cabinet secretary, those numbers should be at the front of his mind, because he's absolutely right to identify that as a critical challenge facing our NHS. The fact that he doesn't know those numbers is deeply disappointing. The Government has been talking for weeks about the approaching crisis, and what we are listening to now, Presiding Officer, is simply the product of an SNP neglect of our NHS and care system. It seems that the cabinet secretary is asleep at the wheel and he needs to get a grip. If I may ask him yesterday, the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow offered the cabinet secretary realistic solutions to workforce planning. Professor Jackie Taylor said that it's no secret that Covid-19 has placed unrelenting pressures on an already fractured healthcare system. However, those challenges existed long before the pandemic. Staff shortages and excessive workloads are nothing new. The workforce is in crisis and the urgency in the need to address this cannot be overstated. Does the cabinet secretary disagree with Professor Taylor? I have a good relationship with Professor Taylor, and I look forward to meeting her again. Of course, I will continue to engage with Royal Colleges. I don't disagree that there was challenges pre-pandemic. It would be absurd or foolish for anybody to suggest, and I certainly have never suggested, First Minister, or indeed this Government has never suggested that there haven't been issues pre-pandemic. It would also be equally absurd, I suspect, for anybody to suggest that the biggest shock that our NHS has ever faced in its 73-year history is that it does not have a bearing on the outcome as we see today. He asked me for a very specific figure. Of course, I know the number of standard delays, there are 1,500 standard delays. He asked me for a very specific figure of those who are waiting—I think—a care home package or waiting to be assessed, so I will give him that exact figure. If he wants it broken down by health board, I will do my best to give him that figure in detail, too. However, I do not accept his characterisation in relation to this Government's action on the NHS. We have the highest staffing numbers ever in the history of the NHS under this Government, nine years of consecutive growth, record investment and the highest single pay deal ever for NHS staff. They are the best-paid staff in any part of the UK. Although I want the statistics to be higher—that is what we are working hard on—we still have the best-performing NHS—and that has been the case for six years in a row. I understand that various schemes have been put in place to provide support to NHS staff who are working incredibly hard in the face of the pressure caused by the pandemic. Does the cabinet secretary agree with NHS Lanarkshire staff that Covid is still with us and that the best thing that we all can do to support our healthcare workers and protect the NHS is to get vaccinated? To staff across the NHS and across the country for their incredible efforts during the pandemic, they have been nothing short of herculean. However, Collette Stevenson is absolutely right that the best thing that we can do in order to help our NHS and protect our NHS is to get vaccinated. We know the protection that the vaccine offers. We should make sure that we rigorously follow those baseline mitigation measures, such as wearing face coverings in appropriate settings unless you are exempt. We should test ourselves regularly, practice good hygiene, and all those measures can help us to get Covid more under control, as we know that the numbers that we are dealing with at the moment are far too high. If we do all that, that can help to alleviate the pressure on our NHS and help those who are working so courageously and tirelessly in our NHS. I asked the cabinet secretary last week about the cancellation of surgeries, particularly cancer surgeries, as NHS boards struggle under immense pressure. The cabinet secretary pointed to the challenges of the pandemic, but we know that waiting lists have been growing for years. Indeed, elective surgery is also a concern, and people are struggling in pain for long periods of time. What is the cabinet secretary doing to support NHS boards to enable surgery to recommence and that we want practical measures such as increasing bed capacity and the listening to the recommendations of the royal colleges? Of course, we will listen to the royal colleges. Just on cancer performance, it is worth saying that, for the quarter ending June 2021, 97.9 per cent of cancer patients start a treatment within 31 days of decision to treat that 31-day target. We know that it is more challenging for that 60-day target. That is why a lot of our investment goes into the diagnostic piece. That is why I was pleased that the Government has invested in three early cancer diagnostic centres in various different health boards across the country. We will evaluate them if they are going well, giving us the results that we expect to see. We will consider rolling them out further. On more practical support, I have already referenced the fact that we are recruiting more staff to the NHS, and we will continue to do that. We have immediate pressures, but I think that Paul O'Kane is right to mention the fact that there are also long-term pressures in terms of recovery, and that is why we have a recovery plan backed by a billion pounds of investment. I have concerns about the booster roll-out in NHS Lanarkshire. There are reportedly nearly 5,000 housebound people in the health board area who are waiting for their boosters. I have also been contacted by constituents who are housebound but have not been registered as such, so I have been given appointments at vaccination centres, which they cannot possibly attend. Will the cabinet secretary look into the matter, and if there is any further support that can be provided to NHS Lanarkshire to help to work through the backlog? Yes, I will look at any information and details that Gilliam Mackay provides of particular constituents, but in the general point, I will raise that. I spoke to NHS Lanarkshire, both the chief executive and the chair, yesterday. We touched on quite a bit of detail on the autumn-winter vaccination programme, and they referenced the fact that they were looking to increase the number of doses administered over the festive period. However, if there are very specific individual constituency cases that she wishes me to look at, of course I will do that. To ask the Scottish Government how many schools are currently shut due to staff shortages resulting from Covid-19 cases. We receive daily management information from local authorities that provides their intelligence of which schools in their area are closed due to Covid reasons or are at the risk of closure. For example, last week local authorities informed us of a total of four schools across Scotland who were closed at some stage. As of yesterday, that reporting indicated that one school was closed. That management information does not, however, include a detailed breakdown of the reasons for a school closure, and the responsibility for such decisions sits with local authorities. We know that all parts of the system have been stretched as they have responded to the pressures of the pandemic. For that reason, we have already committed £240 million to supporting local authorities to recruit additional teachers and staff to deploy more support to their schools, children and families. The investment has supported the appointment of an additional 2,200 teachers and more than 500 support staff in schools across Scotland. I thank the cabinet secretary for that. Indeed, the cabinet secretary has confirmed just now that 2,200 new teachers have been recruited, but we are also in a period of teacher shortage with cases rising and normal winter illness rates just about to hit. That is causing schools having to close to year groups and worse. How will the Scottish Government mitigate the number of teachers who are absent? We appreciate that there are operational challenges for many schools as they continue to deal with the challenges that Covid does prevent them. Those are discussed at the educational recovery group every time that meets them. We take that as a Government. We take that very seriously. Schools can take decisions to close a year group, for example, if that is the right response in their eyes to the operational challenges that they have. I should point out that, when we are looking at the number of new positive cases when it comes to pupils, we are seeing, for example, just under 50 per cent of schools not having any cases being reported when we look at what is happening between P1, P7, S1 and S4. For example, 17 per cent have only one case. There are very few that have a multitude of cases or what might be classed as an outbreak. We absolutely look very seriously at what needs to be done to support teachers. I have discussed some of the national issues in my original answer, and we keep very closely up-to-date with local authorities and trade unions to ensure that there is anything more that can be done. We are happy to do so. Martin Whitfield I am very grateful. Scottish Labour and those benches have been highlighting about the need for proper ventilation in schools for over a year now. Yet the Scottish Government still does not know how many classrooms failed at the inspection. Children are again this winter being advised to wear coats and gloves while windows are open. What is the Scottish Government going to do to improve the environment in pupils' classrooms and teachers' and classroom assistants and others' place of work? The member will be aware that the Scottish Government has provided £90 million in the early days of the pandemic to support schools in a variety of issues, and that included support for ventilation. That was followed by another £10 million to support schools to ensure that all local authorities undertook monitoring of the teaching areas within their schools. That is being completed, and local authorities are responsible for dealing with maintenance issues that have come to light from that. I stress that what has come to light in those has been minor issues in the main, but we keep very close contact with local authorities to ensure that work is being undertaken and continues to be undertaken where necessary. Natural ventilation will play an important part of that. That is not the Scottish Government deciding that, but it is very much looking at the expert advice that is coming in specifically to deal with ventilation. However, we will continue to ensure that we keep a close eye on that to support schools with the on-going monitoring that we will need over the winter months. I share Martin Whitfield's concerns about the impact, albeit temporary, of recent classroom closures and note the return of home-based learning at Ross High in Trinent and for nine classes at Preston Tower primary school in East Lothian. Pupils in S4, S5 and S6 are set to sit crucial exams next year, and despite the heroic efforts of teachers, Scotland young people have already seen their learning negatively affected by lockdowns. Will the minister commit to tackling on-going teacher shortages? What will the Government do to support councils to assist schools such as Ross High, which might be subject to disruption or class closure due to Covid and the SNP's teacher shortages? I referred to my original answer to the additional 2,200 teachers and 500 support staff that the Scottish Government is already providing the financial support to local authorities for and that will be paying dividends across the country. We absolutely do recognise that there will still be challenges in terms of either pupil or teacher absences, and that is exactly why the SQA announced before the summer modifications to the national qualifications for 2022 and is continuing to investigate the modifications that may have to be put in place if there was significantly more disruption than we saw last year. We are not at that stage. Clearly, those discussions do not just happen within the SQA or within Government, but with our stakeholders to ensure that stakeholders, particularly including young people, but parents and teachers are part of the process of ensuring that young people can be reassured that they will have a credible qualifications process next year and that the Government and the SQA will support them through that.


Hello and welcome to the analyst angle. I'm Rob Streche and I'm so excited to be here. This is a topic That is near and dear to my heart. We're gonna really dive into cloud native applications How they are deployed? Where they're being deployed and what is coming next for companies and what they should really consider and I think this is one of those things like I said on the last analyst angle You know it you can't do this yourself So you got to bring some others in and we're gonna dive into this with a friend And we're really going to discuss, you know, where Digital transformation is going because kind of the word is coming, you know Digital transformation is kind of falling out a favor a bit But we really want to see that Organizations are really weighing the cost benefit of modernizing these applications and they're also looking at where to Monetize or modernize them. I think a big piece of that is is it on-premise or in cloud? Where is it both? Additionally, they're looking at what specific cloud Services if any they're going to use and I think that's a big key to this because that has some ability to lock people into particular clouds For today's discussion Like I was, you know Foreboding there a little bit is that fact that I'm thrilled to have a friend and former colleague in Paul Nash Wadi joining He's a principal Analyst over at enterprise strategy group, which is a tech target company He's risk recently completed a whole bunch of Research that I think is going to be very compelling to the audience and we're going to kind of go in and unpack this a bit What's going on in cloud native and how that's going to impact what you're planning? Over the next year or two or three even so welcome Paul, you know glad to have you here Thanks Rob, you know really excited to be here It's it's it's really an exciting time in this space, you know as you know as this is my main focus area This is why I live and breathe every day cloud native modernization application Modernization and the growth of what organizations are doing. It's it's really definitely an exciting time And very you know very exciting for organizations to kind of take on that journey Yeah No, I mean both of us have been in and out of this for a number of years and I think that it's you bring a very Unique perspective, which is why I love just getting on with you and riffing on this stuff but let's kind of jump into the deep end a little bit here and Try to get a understanding of what's going on in cloud native and what's the state of cloud native apps and Development in your mind and what you're seeing Yeah, definitely Rob I mean, you know, it is it is an exciting time as I was saying and you know We have been kind of going through this for for many years as it like you mentioned digital transformation A lot of organizations kind of you view that either as a noun or a verb I like to kind of equate that to modernization, but let's jump right into the research There's a lot of data that kind of goes along with what organizations are looking at today, right? And when we start jumping right in that micro services is a big part of that cloud native journey, right? And we look at research we see that 64 percent of Organizations are looking to build and deploy cloud native applications based on micro services architecture So it's it's pretty exciting to think about that You know, but organizations also need to overcome the challenges because when you look at it I like to tell the narrative of a past present and future, right for application modernization You have organizations that are working with their traditional or heritage applications So which may be a virtual machine then you look at today in the future, which is today's set which is basically looking at Containerization micro services orchestration and such and as I was stating that 64 percent are delivering Of the responses our survey are delivering cloud native applications based on micro services and we see that 33% are using multi-tier our traditional based cloud native application approaches and that's largely due to the Heritage or siloed applications that are being deployed the interesting thing about this though is not just today what we see today is But what's interesting is what we're seeing in the next two years of growth So when we look at the percentage of production applications and micro services and cloud native architectures, we see that and Basically, we see that 46 percent of organizations today and responded are running 26 to 50 percent of their production applications on micro services In contrast what we asked was what is happening over the next two years? We see that 39 percent of respondents indicate that they're running 51 to 74 percent of their production applications and micro services and 29 percent are going to be running 75 percent or more of their applications on micro services architecture So Rob really exciting times here It's a new world new technology stack a lot of organizations are still getting their heads around it But yeah, it's definitely excited. Yeah, no, I think that's that's key and in the conversations I'm having with companies and we're seeing the same thing where it's hey We're still trying to get our heads wrapped around this new modern architecture And which apps we're actually going to modernize because that there is that cost-benefit analysis And I think especially in this type of economy They're tying it back to revenue for more and more of what they're trying to achieve And I think that's a huge piece of this, but I also think that you know We've both been around the space again for quite a while and organizations Really aren't using one cloud and I think that to me, you know Even back multiple years ago when I was at AWS was very clear that people are not going to use just one cloud They don't want to be locked in and they're gonna really look into using several clouds It doesn't mean the same app lives in the same in multiple clouds It can be pieces of apps or different apps that are in different clouds for different services and things like that What are you seeing? I think again, I from what I know I'm sure you're seeing something similar to this in the data as well Yeah, it is into very again and another kind of point that Organizations are looking at and very intensely looking at because it does add a level of complexity But let's kind of take a step back and we will look at Production applications we find in our distributed cloud series Cloud native research. That's a enterprise strategy group. It does this annual study in our 2022 study. We found that 88% of respondents indicated that they're running their production application workloads on a public cloud infrastructure In 2023 we found that the same number 88% are running those the production applications in the public cloud The difference that change that occurred year over year was when we asked how many cloud service providers organizations are running on in 2022 11% of respondents indicated that they are running on a single cloud service provider So that means 89% of respondents were running on two or more clouds to your point Rob But the other piece that comes up is in 2023's research. So the trending data that we're seeing only 6% indicated that they're running on a single cloud service provider and 94% indicated that they're running on two or more clouds. So very interesting there We also another data point is 65% are running on four or more Clouds so lots of consideration around this but also as that level of complexity to organizations, right? So do you have the skill gap that or the skill set to kind of manage those individual our technology stacks across different clouds? Do you have You know the resources that can actually accommodate these different things. Are you managing these these clouds? Holistically are you looking at it's more siloed. So there's a lot of questions and challenges Rob when I think about this and Rob I think there's another piece that we could talk about and it goes into that portability aspect Absolutely, I think to your the manageability part of it is is a huge thing And I mean you have the announcement where Terraform where I Hashi the parent of Terraform is changing some of the licensing to BSL on some of their Applications and what the impact is is not clear necessarily for everybody yet But you have all of these folks trying to have these multi-cloud management Systems there's also Morpheus out there and a number of others that are really aimed at this and making it simple To have that but like you said, I think a big piece of it has been You know what we've been talking about for a while is that making things portable? Not because you're gonna have the application span those multiple clouds, but you may want to repatriate and redeploy I think that's what we've been seeing is that you know, it's something around the data We see I think it was just out of Intel recently was that about 14 10 to 14 percent of companies have repatriated But most of them are taking it out to another cloud. They're not running it necessarily on pram Where do you where do you stand in this whole debate around? Repatriation multi-clouds and portability because I think you definitely have a different angle on it as well Yeah, yeah, you know, I wouldn't be an IT if I didn't say it depends right because it always is a It's it depends scenario. I will kind of touch on it touch on it from this perspective Portability is a key factor and when we think about portability, it's you touched on the point about not running applications across different clouds and that could may or may not be a situation or may not be an idea I typically think of Reducing complexity in the context of harmonization across these clouds So having a cloud operating system and I kind of would put that in air quotes, you know Like a cloud operating system that allows you to do management and monitoring and functionality across different cloud providers and harmonize it across basically public cloud private cloud as well as on-prem The interesting point about portability is we asked this question in this cloud native research and what we found is 20% of respondents indicated that it is critical that their applications are Portable and they can have the ability to move those cloud native applications across different cloud Architectures or ecosystems we find that 67% indicated it's very important to their organization The interesting thing is and again on trending data when you look at cloud native deployment environments We see that 48% of Organizations today Indicate that they're running their cloud native architecture and applications deployed in the public cloud and 42% today Indicate that they're running their cloud native Applications running across public clouds and private cause including edge locations and private data centers now What's interesting is we asked about trending information where they think they're going in the next two years Today only 11% of respondents indicated that they're running their cloud native applications On-prem and it on-prem data center But yet in two years 30% of the respondents indicate that they're running those cloud native applications on-prem Going to your repatriation comment on on you know, I'm where it's going So we also see in the next two years a drop-off going from 48% running on public clouds to 43% So a slight drop there and we see going from 42% to 28% on a combination of a hybrid Public cloud and private cloud and edge locations But we see a significant jump and on-prem data centers will host in cloud native applications. So Net net Rob. I think it comes down to you know Organizations are thinking about what's best for themselves Repatriation is not just about cost, but it's about compliance regulations a latency Performance you name it. There's a whole number of reasons why organizations do it But yeah, it's an interesting kind of paradigm shift that organizations are going through. Yeah No, I think it is and I think to your point It's a lot of the cloud native operating systems or and the manageability and all of that can be done on-prem Or in the cloud or in colo for that matter and we're seeing a huge uptick in use of colo and Specific clouds or sovereign clouds in specific areas and I think that's contributing to this multi-cloud multi-premise Type of application and I think you know cloud native apps are designed for this So they're designed to have the data in one place and have you know Different layers of the stack like you were saying is it traditional, you know app layer and you know Visualization layer on top of a data layer and I think organizations are really Rethinking and saying hey that wasn't so bad, especially if I want to keep my data in a particular place But I think they're also leaning pretty heavily on open source, which I think you and I are both, you know big open source guys very very positive on what's going on in the cloud native foundation and And you know been to Kubcon and you know, both of us will be back out there in Chicago in a you know a couple months now What are you seeing? From a supportability perspective because that that's the one area around open source that I always find very interesting I know a couple companies that are very heavy Users of the Hashi stack and some of the components they're using are really pure open source components knows with no support contracts whatsoever What what are you seeing in your data that you know? Jives with that or kind of supports it yeah Supports it as no pun intended there, but it's it's interesting. It is another interesting perspective It would be a miss not to talk about open source when we're talking about cloud native development especially when we We let off this conversation around microservices and the the tech stack that goes along with the ecosystem But open source is a is an interesting area. There's a lot of reasons to go with open source. It's community There's uh tested well-rounded testing. Um, you know, but there's also, uh, you know the perspective of What do you do when you purchase and or you use and deploy open source within your ecosystem? And you know, you can kind of do it a number of different ways Um organizations can look at it and have their own bench, right? If they have their own bench that's supporting they they flex their technical muscle to say hey, we can do this We got this. We don't need any help. That's good, right? Organizations are paying for that bench, right? They're paying for those resources Alternatively Most organizations are looking for paid enterprise level support In fact, what we found in our cloud native research at 48 of respondents indicated that they're looking for paid enterprise level support Um, and then we also found that 24 of respondents indicate that they're looking for Some paid support but mostly non paid community support So that means that their bench is leveraging the community for that for that support And then we found that 18 percent are looking for a pay-as-you-go kind of support model now with all that said In my opinion, uh, you know just in my assessment, you're paying for it one way or the other You're either paying for it with your bench or you're going to pay for it with uh, you know Having an organization that you you you want, you know a vendor that supports you in that space When I talk to cio's and I ask about their, you know, number one challenge their number one challenge is modernization and they run into the challenge of You know keeping the wheels on the bus with the resources they have So to modernize usually brings on another set of projects and another set of initiatives You mentioned digital transformation at the beginning of the session here That's a big kind of push that modernization push The problem is is you know Either they don't have resources or they try to find their higher resources Which is really hard to do these days and then the other side of it is once you've hired those resources It takes about nine to 12 months to come up to speed So the alternative is to work with a service delivery partner in order to uh to do that so Many kind of directions and many approaches again. I use the term it depends But it really does depend on the the situation the configuration that your the organizations are trying to achieve here But uh research shows that they are looking for that support and vendors to support them Definitely and I think that it's not surprising and I think you know Open shift doing over a billion in arr last year is just crazy and I think it shows that Open has won as part of it and now I think but people are looking also at how what's going on with the licensing and What what's going on with open source licensing and licensing in general and trying to protect themselves From that and I think to your point you're paying for it one way or the other Either through the support contract or not and I think that's why it's been uh very very interesting But uh, so hey, this has been great. Uh, you know, I think we're going to do this You know a couple more times at least uh, you know, this is a lot of fun And there's so much we didn't get to and I know you have a lot of data And we'll put the link to the data down below To your cloud native studies and the cloud series that you and esg and tech target do And everybody can go and check that out and find out. It's always, you know, just a ton of fun to You know rift with a friend and get to go into some of this detail To help people understand what's going on and really separate the noise from the signal That's what we like to do here at the cube is really help people understand that I really appreciate you coming on the analyst angle and I look forward to the next time Thanks, Rob. It's been it's been a pleasure Thank you and stay tuned for the next analyst angle We'll bring you some breaking news on and deep in in depth research that we continue to do Really again extracting the noise from the signal and helping you understand how you can plan Your different projects in cloud native, security, sustainability is coming pretty soon Stay tuned and we'll be back


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