Shivanajam, congratulations for your success in the civil service examination of 2021 for your secured rank of 87th. Thank you for graduating in N90 Tirchi. Yes sir. And many people may opt for a good career opportunity in engineering. Yes sir. But why you chose for civil service? What is the reason behind that? It was a passion towards public service and to serve the society sir. I personally feel very associated with education. And as an engineer to work in education out of all the options available to me, civil services look like the best option because they may get to work in education. But I would still be serving the society in every other field that any officer would be posted in. Okay. So is there is any interesting story behind for choosing IAS as an option by you? Yes sir. I chose IAS as my first option because of the diversity at office and the big level picture that you need to understand to certain systems and processes that will help improve public access to services. Okay. So as a computer science student, I am very interested in system thinking and system design. Okay. And just like how we are taught to design systems for a machine, designing systems for public administration was something I was captivated by. Okay. Okay. Tell me and the share your experience regarding the success story. Yes sir. So I was working in an MNC in Bangalore after my graduation. Okay. And then during Corona time I decided to resign from my job and prepare for civil services. So I resigned and started my preparation from August 2020. Okay. And my prelims attempt was on October 2021. So that was my preparation schedule. Okay. So after starting to prepare, I had a 10 month plan to cover all the syllabus. So I was very clear as to what to be read and what should not be read. Okay. And then since I had a 10 month plan, I just ensured that my plan was going as per whatever I had planned before. Okay. And then I used mock exams and other test series to ensure that okay, whatever I have read, I have read properly. Okay.  Okay. So I had this plan. It went on and I came to prelims and prelims, I was very scared if I would pass or not. Okay. 25 days or 23 days after which the prelims results came, it was a very difficult time because I knew I was only in the border of the prelims cut off marks. Yes. Yes. So once prelims got over, those 23 days I did not study also. Okay. But just because I had planned before and studied everything, I was able to cover syllabus for mains after the results came out for prelims. So that way my optional sociology also, the syllabus is very bounded. So it was easy for me to cover the whole syllabus in three months. Okay. Yes. Okay. Fine. So I think it's a very, you are strategically approaching the examination in every stage in the prelims, in the mains, and in the interview. Yes. I think so. Okay. How you are associated with Shankaray's academy? Sir. In success. So in Shankaray, yes, I had opted for the sociology test series for optional. And then I also took interview guidance from Shankar, sir. Okay. So these two programs really helped me score, like, improve my marks in sociology optional, and to score a very high marks in interview. Okay. Shivana, I came to know that you have scored 277 marks in sociology. Yes, sir. Okay. And also I came to know that I congratulate you that you were one of the top in paper one in sociology. You scored 152. Yes. I was behind that for getting such a high mark in all India level. One of the high in India, I think so. Now, what is the success? What is the reason behind that? How? Sir, while preparing for mains or even before prelims, I was very sure as to what can be written on a paper to make marks. More than knowledge, if I cannot reproduce it in the exam paper, then irrespective of whatever I know, on paper I would look like I do not know, I do not know sociology enough. So, because of that, I chose one single book for my preparation, which was Nitin Sanghwan's Essential Sociology, and that book is my sociology guide. So, that formed the staple content I am writing on the paper, and I have two classmate notebooks worth of notes. Okay. One for paper one, one for paper two. Okay. Both came from Nitin Sanghwan's Essential Sociology book. Okay. With that, so this is my staple content to write. Okay. And for answer enrichment, I used Shankar's test series to get points. Okay. So, once the basic content is really to get those extra marks, I added the points from the test series. Okay. The answer sheets that were given for the test series were having exhaustive content, and I took only the content that was necessary for me to enrich my answers. Okay. So, that is all the test series helped me, sir. Okay. See, how the faculty have given the feedback? What are the benefits you get from the faculty regarding the test batches series? Sir, with respect to sociology, it is possible for you to write a sociological answer even without a sociological background. So, it is necessary to understand that what we write is academic in nature because the optional papers require a graduation level of subject expertise. Since sociology commonly overlaps with a lot of common sensical ideas, it is easy for you to deviate and move away from the academic lenses of sociology. So, that is where test series and feedback help. Okay. So, you may be a very strong sociologist. Okay. But on paper, it has to be academic for the optional papers. Okay. So, in that way, it was very useful, sir. Okay. Okay. In the interview, I came to know that you are the second All India Topper who got 205 marks, which is a very highest mark in this year. How it was possible for you to get such a huge mark and what is the success behind that? Yes, sir. So, interview, even I am surprised that I scored more than 200 because my expectation was a mark between 180 to 190. Okay. So, that was because I knew my interview went well. Okay. But there were my low moments in the interview also along with my high moments. So, because of it, I predicted that I will get 180 to 190. 205 is a surprisingly good score that has pushed me into top 100. Very grateful to my interview performance and the panelists. So, how was I able to score is because I see it in three ways, sir. Okay. One, the sessions I took up for one-on-one DAF sessions in Shankar, they helped me understand my DAF better. Okay. So, I knew that in my DAF, there are some places where I have very strong points which would reflect my good qualities and all my work experience and everything. Okay. So, I got very strong and having one-on-one personal sessions a few times really helped me be very confident about my DAF. Okay. That is one. Second is improving my formal conversation abilities. Okay. Though I have always known that I am good at speaking in public speaking, it is necessary to understand the nuances of formal communication. Okay. It is necessary for us to understand that we are going to be interviewed by a panel of senior bureaucrats, very senior people. So, but they are expecting to have a purposeful conversation. Okay. Okay. So, there is a slight difference. It is not like being a heist man or a no-man. Instead, we have to give them opinions but in a very respectful manner. Okay. Show your personality without offending anyone in society. Okay. So, that formalization of communication. Okay. It comes by practice and that is what Shankar IIS also helped me with, sir. With respect to the mock interviews. Okay. Okay. Apart from this, I also had some unique points in my DAF. Okay. So, I was interviewed by faculties in Shankar and it helped me showcase myself in a much better way. Okay. Okay. So, these are the things success for you to get the all India second top. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Shiva Anand told me, in the civil service preparation, some people are saying that paper, newspaper reading is not necessary. Some people are going for the digital platform of various YouTube's and other things like that. And how newspaper reading is helpful for the civil service aspirant. Yes, sir. So, it is necessary for me to clear that I have always had an habit of reading the newspaper, just not from an exam point of view. But I used to read it regularly in my college days. With respect to the examination, it is very necessary to read the newspaper for three reasons. Because the current of his material itself, you can get it consolidated from any coaching center or from YouTube videos. But end of the day in the exam, we have to read it. To write, we have to read. Because while reading only, we will be able to comprehend. And with the comprehension improves our writing ability. Okay. So, this process is very important. To read, comprehend and to produce it in your writing. Okay. So, this comes up by reading the newspaper because reading a book means it is a specific subject matter. Okay. And newspaper is very broad and you tend to read content from very different fields. Hmm. From just a newspaper. Yes. So, the very first time when I started reading the newspaper from an exam point of view, it took me three and half hours to complete the newspaper. Yes. Okay. That was the first day. Okay. One month down the line, it became one hour. Okay. And close to my prelims exam, it was less than half an hour. Okay. It improves your comprehension because you keep reading fast. Okay. And you are able to retain more information and write more information. Hmm. So, this is where the whole newspaper reading cycle helps it. Okay. So, it is ultimately necessary that if we cannot write what we read, then it will not translate into what we present to the examiner. Okay. If it does not get translated, then we are not in the competition of this exam. So, initially newspaper reading seems to be difficult. Yes, sir. But in the down end, it will be very useful. Yes. In every stage of the civil service preparation. Yes, sir. Okay. Fine. And some people are saying that, sir, I used to underline in the notes. And some people are saying as I usually memorize the point and I used to get those points in the while writing in the paper. And some majority of the people say that, sir, no, sir, I usually make a notes of it and I keep my personal notes of everything and I revise it during the time of the examination. Tell me what kind of strategy you say for the future aspirants regarding the notes preparation. What would be the best line of help for the future aspirants? Yes, sir. So, with respect to notes making, I am very traditional in my approach. Okay. So, how I approached it was how I did my 12th standard. Okay. So, my whole point was, read the book once. Okay. While you read the book, make notes. Okay. In a classmate long-size notebook. Okay. I had one classmate notebook for one subject. Okay. So, when I completed Lakshmi Kant, all the important content of Lakshmi Kant were written down in a single classmate notebook. Okay. I cannot read Lakshmi Kant in five hours. Fine. Definitely. Definitely it's not possible. But my notes I can complete it in five hours. Okay. Because it's just one classmate book of 150 pages maximum. Okay. So, when I do this for every subject in my 10 month plan, at the end of 10 month, I may have like 10, 12 classmate notebooks. Okay. Which is the only notes I will read. Okay. I will never go back to the original source book. Because we don't have the time due to the vastness of the syllabus. Okay. So, you have to make notes. Okay. In one way or the other. Okay. Unless in other ways you have other ways of remembering information. Because reading from the source book is time consuming. And just before problems, if you want to revise the whole syllabus in one week, it has to be in six or seven classmate notebooks. So, in that case, if you want some statistics from my side, quality I had one classmate notebook, ancient medieval put together from NCRT, it was one classmate notebook. Okay. Spectrum modern India was one classmate notebook, environment, science and tech. And environment, science and tech. Economics. All three put together was one classmate notebook. Okay. So, you precisely make everything into one single paper notebook. Yes, sir. The consolidation of information is necessary to recollect. Okay. Flipping papers help you remember content. Instead of having screens that come up in your tablet or any electronic device. So, this is because of the scrolling effect. Because when you scroll, everything is presented on the same screen. So, our mind cannot map what is there on which screen. Because it's the same screen you see. But when you flip papers. Yes. Sometimes you remember the page number and from there you feel like going on a route and finding the information you want. Yes. But because we have been going through that people so many times. Yes, sir. Number of times we are going through that. So, automatically pictorial memory we get into it. Yes. So, automatically we can get into the mind because of this one. Once we see the questions, we can able to recollect it very easily. Yes, sir. Okay. So, this is behind that. Yes, sir. That is why I called myself having a very traditional approach. Okay. So, according to you, the suggestion is making notes. Yes, sir. That is the thing. Best way of going through the textbook at the last time of revisions and other thing. Okay. See, some people are saying that difficulty in notes making is it is very good of going through that at the last minute. Notes of other people. In the last minute, I would not at all suggest the last minute is only for you to recollect what you have read. Okay. Not someone else's read. Okay. But before you come to your last phase of the preparation, consulting or using someone else's notes to write your own is acceptable. Okay. But another person's note cannot be the substitute for your preparation. Importantly because if you copy the old notes with your hand on the book that you write, then that leads to retention of the content. But if it is someone else's notes, then you will not form the logics that will connect a point after the other point and after the other point. Okay. So if you can use their notes, make your own. It is very much appreciated. But directly using someone else's is not good in the last moment. Sean, next to most credit to is you have cleared the problem's mains and God service in the first attempt. Yes. And what is the reason for clearing the problems in the first attempt? What is the strategy you make it for problems? Sir, I will accept that I was very tensed if I would pass problems or not pass problems. Okay. Because this year there were like 11-12 questions for which we didn't have a clear cut answer. Okay. Like now answer key has come out so there's an answer but during the exam we didn't have. And I was stuck with all those 11 questions. So it could go I could be very above like very much above the cutoff or if all of those questions go wrong I will not be passing the exam. So this is the problem I faced with problems and I feel it is the toughest exam. Okay. Of the whole process. Okay. So my strategy was very simple sir. I told myself I will attend 90 questions so that means I can get 30 questions wrong and 60 questions right. Okay. Cumulatively my total would be 100. Okay. And 100 is the cutoff. Okay. Or at least I assumed a cutoff. Okay. So that's how my calculation works. Okay. So this way when for every question 10 questions I attended the problems I saw can I get six questions right. Okay. I can leave one question I can go wrong in three questions. So for every 10 questions I completed in the exam hall I just did the small calculation on the side to keep my confidence up to see okay this six can go right these three may go wrong or this I'm not attending. So when I had this when I saw the whole paper into 10 sets of 10 questions each and every 10 questions if I get six three one six correct three wrong and one I will not attend. Okay. It helped me go through the paper fast and I was very confident okay till now I'm still there in the competition. Okay. So I just kept doing it and luckily or fortunately I've passed prelims. Okay. My prelims marks are not yet out. Okay. Because of the forest service results. Okay. See some people are saying that attending minimum questions in the general studies part for example to say I attend only 60 questions 65 questions 70 questions. Some people say that no no I attend 90 questions 95 questions. What is your suggestion whether we have to go whether we have to go for targeted approach like 60 questions or we have to go with the full approach of 90 questions of attending the out of 100 questions what is your suggestion. So I have had this doubt sir. So I met people on both sides of the spectrum. Okay. So I met people who attend 60 questions and get 58 great. Okay. Yes. That's exemplarily good. I've tried it once. It didn't work for me. Okay. So I told that okay. Then I also checked some statistics based on the past percentages of the previous years and whatever anecdotes we have on the internet. The number of people who can attempt 60 questions and get 58 try it are very low because there's a special method to what is being done with the targeted approach and problems which I'm not able to understand. So in that case I believe that the majority of the aspirants who are passing problems could be going with the attempt 90 questions and get 60 right. Okay. Because that way your risk is spread out into 90 questions. Okay. And getting 60 right out of 90 is easier than getting 58 right out of 60. Okay. Because in both cases we need to pass the cut off. It is not required for the final rank calculation. Okay. See nowadays CSAT is getting more and more difficult. Yes. Okay. So how we have to handle the CSAT? How we have to take CSAT? Because in every stage either one part of CSAT is getting difficult. Either the comprehension part or with the reasoning part or points part it is getting difficult. What is your advice for the future aspirants regarding the CSAT? Sir, I believe CSAT with its aptitude and comprehension questions has a lot of easy questions spread out across the paper. What makes the paper itself difficult is the time constraint to solve 80 questions in two hours. But the questions themselves are not extremely difficult. So if we can identify some strong areas and be really good at solving those questions fast and then take a targeted approach in CSAT so that we don't commit any negative mistakes and get a negative mark then we can easily cross the cutoff of 70 marks. Let's keep the cutoff 70 marks. So crossing 70 needs only 35 questions out of 80. So that should be for a year we can go for a targeted approach take only 50 questions solve 35. So that way since there is only one answer, mathematics has only one answer you can be very clear that the answer you are giving is the right answer. So having a higher success rate or hit rate can help us save a lot of time and save a lot of hard take with respect to CSAT. She wanted to tell me you have cleared the main examination the first attempt itself. How you completed all four papers in three hours duration what is the strategy you have framed? Yes sir. So in the exam hall I used the same watch I am wearing now the analog watch but I would keep seeing the watch at the end of every question for me a 10 mark question should be completed in seven minutes and a 15 mark question in 11 minutes so that was a time frame so at every seventh minute I would keep looking at the watch it became a kind of biological reaction or something that I have learnt over the mock exams to just keep checking okay 35 minutes have passed I should have completed 5 questions if I was not completing a question then I ensured I was writing lesser words for a question and catching up with the time because one has to attend all questions leaving out a question is very risky okay so this is something I did in the exam hall to ensure I was attending all the questions and giving all questions equal weightage because getting a 4 and all 10 mark question and getting a 6 and all 15 mark question means my single paper mark could be 100 which is what we are all aiming for so that way it was easy for me to allocate time and do it for in the exam hall itself okay and during preparation I went through last 5 years question papers and I saw which all questions are being asked and how they are being asked so with that I had a lot of generic points that can be used for most of the questions so this is how I prepared my strategy sir okay see many people are saying that sir I used to put a diagram I used to have some tree diagram I used to have some flow chart do you think these things are necessary it may so I have also heard all of those sir so when I was writing I didn't have enough time to draw flow charts or to draw diagrams maybe across GS 1 to 4 I may have drawn maybe 2 diagrams not more than that both the diagrams should be in GS 1 because I am very confident in the other 3 papers I didn't draw anything so there were 2 diagrams I drew that was for GS 1 okay because for people who can draw fast and present well it is very easy but I was a very content oriented person and I could only write fast if I had to start drawing I was losing minutes so that way I did not underline content because I didn't have time to underline keywords I did not change pens it was a single blue color pen I did not draw diagrams but I ensure that whatever content I am writing is proper content because I was always targeting for that 4 out of 10 and 6 out of 15 okay not for any bonus marks okay because we do all these flow charts diagrams to get those bonus marks okay see in the mains examination we have 20 questions yes definitely 20 questions we don't know some questions definitely it is very difficult to approach see what is the strategy you do for difficult questions some questions we have less how you approach those kind of questions for the questions I don't have points generate new points within that within a limited time in the exam hall okay my brain would be processing the syllabus sheet hmm so for example let's say there's a question in GS2 in governance okay if I didn't have a point to write for that then in GS2 governance I know there is poverty health education hunger and then there's there's self-help groups voluntary organizations and all this so all of things all of these related to any question that is being asked okay so if there's a question on poverty you can link self-help groups to poverty hmm and that's one point hmm you can link poverty to education okay because if you're poor you don't have resources to invest on your education okay so that comes from education it can be linked to social mobility okay or economic prosperity okay or political empowerment okay so one I make one topic as one point in places where I didn't have a solid point to write okay okay so this is the reason so one need to know about the syllabus of every part of the GS then you can if they are struggling they can be able to brainstorm the syllabus and they can be able to generate point from them yes sir because we have read so much for every topic in the syllabus that we have a lot of content okay if there's a spark saying write a point relating this to poverty write a point relating this to India-China issue in say even in an economics question you get that you can bring in foreign exchange trade and then write an economics point from your international relations knowledge okay you just need that pointer to say give me one point with this as spark okay with this as your stimuli okay so what is your suggestion for the people who are going to appear for the problems in June 5 what advice first I would like to tell all of them all the best sir because I know prelims is very hectic it's very tiring and there's a lot of emotions that runs during the preliminary exam itself so with respect to prelims I do still feel that it is the toughest part of the exam so if anyone anyone writing this exam has to be confident and very calm in the exam hall because there are lots of logical inconsistencies that are present okay if a calm mind can figure out these logical inconsistencies using the one near preparation and all the knowledge they have accumulated then I believe prelims is crackable sir okay okay thank you very much thank you sir and all the best for your successful career in the civil service thank you very much thank you sir


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So we're going to begin while we wait for Luz to come back by telling you a little about what we've done today, the event. Besides what I mentioned at the beginning, we also had screenings all day. We chose some of our favorite contemporary artists from Spain together and we created a selection of screenings that have been showing all day in the Lilac department in the fourth floor and in the third floor in the theater department as well. We've been showing some work from Angelica Lidl, from Sara Molina, from of course Marca Ellas and La Farmaco who are here today, as well as Rodrigo García, La Tristura, El Conde de Torre Ciel and Vertero. So if you had an opportunity to go upstairs, we had several screens showing these works at the same time and we wanted to talk later with the artists about how they see themselves in this environment of Spanish scene but the first thing we want to do is talk to Marca Ellas who is here with us tonight and who has been leading a workshop in the afternoon starting at 2.30. It started in the James Gallery and I would just like, first of all, if you could explain to us what we did for those of the audience who were not there. Good night. It was really a great day and thanks for the invitation. Well, the idea is as we were like a short time was to first to show some of my creative process or the way I mix the different influences in order to write then the script for the pieces but also we're connected with different things like movies, TV series, music, because one of the points that I wanted to show that like originality in the 21st century it's not a thing that exists. I mean we all work based on works that have been previously done, like everything is a remix and the idea is how you mix all these elements to create something new, that it's not really new so that was another thing and then the second part we just went out walking for a, I mean because I've worked some pieces outside the stage, outside the theater and I wanted to show them like some kind of this thing of walking slow and trying to get the details in order to think about the spaces, how the spaces matter, in a time like when big cities seem or are threatened to look like the same, like it seems like some cities like you can find a starbucks event or a thara, the same kind of things but that's the surface, then there are places that survive like this guy that repairs shoes that we found randomly and we went into his shop and the guy was really pleased that we were there and he was like explaining some things to us and his little shop is like a little stage with all the three chairs where you can clean your shoes and it was really, I mean the interesting to be there. So the 15 of you all went into the store? Yeah but the thing was that he was well it was a little surprise but not for him was like, well he didn't ask what we were doing we just began a conversation with us and like if he goes prepared you know that like in a way he could, they asked me no but had you been there before? No I just, I mean I just walked yesterday and saw it from outside it was closed because it was Sunday and I thought that it would be a good idea to go there but I was not sure, I didn't know who was that man and it became a man that he wanted to be like a performer for us for a while because of course no one performs better about oneself than oneself. So he was very good at being himself, a man that repair shoes and his humility at the same time, his love of his job, I mean it was like a nice, well it was an example of what I was trying like of this idea of becoming the world on a stage and like you you frame some scenes in the daily basis. Yeah so Alex Viteri has been working with Mark in preparing this this workshop so if you also wanted to enter the conversation and tell us about the experience yeah you can. Hi everybody, yes I think I've been following your work for a little while now so I have like an idea of it so today yes for me it was quite interesting also to see this space because it was quite anachronic this little shop that is like a time travel but I believe that these spaces are around the city quite a lot and I think one of the particularities of Mark's work is that he actually catches these little glimpses of the city or these singularities in the cities and he highlights those so in that sense is yeah the poetics of the everyday life we were speaking about that today. Yeah and before that it happened and a more extraordinary thing that we were like walking just this when we were turning right in the avenue a man like a 60 years old man he stopped by and talked to me asked me where I was I mean where are you from I said no I'm from Barcelona Spain okay and what about your friends like meaning the group you know the 10 people of 12 and I said well I don't know I think they are from different places like Colombia and okay so and then he began a speech telling them that they had to listen to me because I'm from Europe and I and we survived a world war so we had more like like I don't know more experience more in order to say some things so and and some of the of the people some of the well students would say all the participants of the workshop asked they asked me if that was prepared no I mean but of course I said that yes no that they had been rehearsing all morning with that guy I mean it was it was so unbelievable that it was prepared that it was not prepared I mean both both situations were were really strange no but but that happened and we enjoyed that that moment run and that was fun I think it's a great time to bring perhaps loose into the conversation because another thing that you say a lot is that you want to bring your body into your pieces into the work poner el cuerpo in Spanish which I think for loose is quite obviously perhaps the answer perhaps we can play a little game where loose is the writer and mark becomes the dancer but I wanted to like speak to you both of you about this this notion of how to put the body in your work or what does this mean to you like you say it a lot and I wasn't sure what exactly you mean by that put the body poner el cuerpo well in my case I'm referring when when I do like this kind of writing workshops that to put the body is like that you cannot write about stuff that don't doesn't matter to you know doesn't like touch you and and and for instance put the bodies like like if you want to write about the city where you have to walk the city you have to enter into places you have to to listen to the voices of the people because I mean otherwise it's going to be a I don't I mean you may write something but it's going to be cold or distant or you're going to have a position that so I refer to to that one and two but obviously in her case I mean there is no doubt about the body so it was really present no no and with the music so I don't know I'm going to be translating for Lou it's the first time I do this so forgive me yeah but because she speaks English but but she's tired and and and and I think she's going to express better herself in Spanish and and I won't express better myself in English but that's fine and in our company and in this work obviously we always try to put the work in the body as the main thing I feel really frustrated when the body is just conceived as an intuitive or or or non-discursive place apart from from yeah from discourse or we try to vindicate the the the intellectual character of the body that doesn't need like something in order to make it intellectual intellectual already for us and without renouncing to that instinctive and non-discursive place of the body we have also tried to to work with the narrative dimension of the of the bodies we have always tried to look at as a way of working with this narrative sorry I forgot the last part for its capacity to contain stories and a little bit of what belongs to us all obviously in a very open and very experimental way but also in some way and without forgetting without getting the experimental and avant-garde this part of the world of contemporary work and dance work and we tried not to forget about this other side which tends to be out of contemporary dance I'm sorry I'm not translating I can try to leave but I don't do this it's not about body appropriating of something not about putting the body or not only putting the body but but conceiving the body of something that already is thank you so much luth that was amazing and thank you Carlos as well I wanted to ask you a little bit about the process of creation between the two of you with you know you're playing and her dancing was that like a creative process from the beginning of the piece the two of you together or we create the at the same time perhaps luth makes some movements I try to to to express the movements with different kinds of instruments I don't know it's a very long a very long process it happens at the same time I don't give him a score we compose at the same time and I'm going to add not only them but also some other people that is not here Abraham for example the the dramaturg of the company for a long time yeah the other musicians that that tend to work with you there are three important people missing from this play today from this place on display it has been very very beautiful and they have accompanied us very well but there is a whole space proposal of color temperature that we have not seen so Jorge Colomer the the the person that works with lights normally with the company there's a whole composition that we didn't have the chance to to see today and a space composition that we didn't have the chance to see but we work with with the with the lights here with the possibilities that we had here Jose Saquez which is the one who built the the horse the beautiful horse and also Abraham Grajera who is the also a director of the company he participates in the in the in the dramaturg and also he's he's a main point in the composition in the music composition process Carlos composes but Abraham works with him all the time in the in the composition yes no well many things I liked the piece but really the transitions of the piano to the battery and such that marked also they were very powerful I think there were some points that really marked the rhythm of the scenes very well and I loved the image of you playing the piano let's say without looking at the keyboard not also following her not that also that game of looking at your important very important so mark is speaking about and he thinks that there are many things that are quite powerful in the piece but he also was quite caught by the fact that Carlos was playing live and responding like he's speaking also about the looks between the two of them and how this exchange happens live on stage with us so we thought that it was also quite interesting the transitions between the piano and the battery yeah what did that one thing that happens is that when people tell me that this is a solo I tell this is not a solo this is a trio it's a play and something that happens between Carlos the musician the horse and me and in some way the processes that happen to me in the game also happen to the music is not that part has a very very complex relationship and knowledge with him with the rhythm and he passes on the things that happen to me in the body in a way happen also in the music there's a complex process that is taking place in both cases and is shared in a way in the history of Kaspar also also has the anecdote that he played the piano and he played it in a very strange way, the original sorry because I forget the original Kaspar Hauser the person in which that inspires the play the real story he was also famous for the way the very weird special unique way in which he played the piano I play the for Jack's tune with mistakes thank you so I wanted to open a question for both of you before we go to the audience's questions I was thinking of the topic of the day New Theater from Spain and the kinds of shows that we have been showing upstairs and that you also were referring some of them in your in your workshop you talked about el conde de torre fiel and I have actually two questions combined in one which is where do you think your work within the contemporary scene of work considering like the kind of theater that we're thinking about and I combine this question with this idea of action arts that in Spain is a very popular way to distinguish between theater or traditional theater and then other arts that combine elements from dance and theater and visual arts or do you think that that is where well where do you think yours your work would be positioned in this context and maybe what do you think about that terminology well I think that the problem that's been in Spain is that for me theater in Spain has been the more the most conservative of the arts no if you compare with cinema with until so then the people that manage theaters or they've been like protecting their space and so this is theater this is not so there are a lot of people that we are working in in projects that mix then we've been forced to to adopt a new label like called artist vivas or life arts instead of like for as a strategy to to gain some spaces to that but it's a situation that that's it's been forced because in Europe most of the cities in big theaters you have a program nation that makes performance with theater I mean different things that happen on stage and that and there is not this fight on distinctions of this is theater is not theater so I think this is an all discussion and but in Spain it's been it's been like that because and so it seems like now in Madrid for instance a lot of the new spaces that that have to call themselves that they do in when for instance I've talked this with Pablo from connet or a field that he said that we have to say that we do theater not because I mean theater it's a word that includes all the all the other stuff so but it's sometimes I mean this thing of the labels it's it's like a strategy to to have some space no so it's a political fight that it's not yet resolved well we have a kind of special situation because evidentemente somos una una compañía de danza because evidently we are a dance company pero sin embargo nos sentimos más próximos o se nos reconoce de una manera más precisa en contextos teatrales but we are more in a way more related to or better understood in um context that are more connected to theater and I don't totally get why do we have that specific very um mark distinction in our country which is not the same one in other countries I'm not that interested in in the label in itself but I'm more interested in the wider idea of performing acts that happen in more conventional or unconventional places it depends for example in Spain and other parts of the world I'm interested in the in the words in yeah both in Spain outside Spain and interested in the words that in a way are not that warrior or have overcome the idea of having to be like performative or contemporary in a very specific sense or traditional these these areas as separate fictions have many different options and it's more about what you want to tell and and I'm recurring to different disciplines depending on what you want to to tell to to say for example Angelica Lidl's last piece the scarlet the last one she saw the scarlet letter one of the as what um starts with a kind of conventional um theater structure and I I just this is not a translation I'm I'm just going to clarify that Angelica Lidl normally is considered as avant-garde is an outside of the traditional um theater concept but in this case she starts with that and it is not less avant-garde or experimental because of that beginning we need to to overcome that as soon as possible those labels I mean thank you so much so now we're going to take a couple of questions from the audience please speak to the microphone because we're live streaming oh this is addressed to those um the performance and creativity was just superb but I did a question about um well it's three parts the question uh first of all what inspired you to choose the Casper Hauser second am I right in assuming that it was a matter of indifference to you whether the audience knew the story or not the details and third how would you deal with the issue of let's say exploitation I was thinking of I think the Australian lady lady novelist who got in trouble was challenged for writing a book about a native Australian because she was white and the subject of the book was um an aboriginal or or at least a third world person in other words the um it's conceivable that someone could raise that is some good object to the um to that um gap between the performer and the condition of the um the content of the story and the assuming that's done in the rendition of the um of the character I'm thinking of the relation between the um between the performance and the creativity which was superb and the content or the document let's say that inspired I think it was the Herzog movie and and the book in the 19th century is are my questions clear uh abran grajera the director of with me of the company and I decided to work on this character uh because we thought that in a way caspar incarnated a tragedy of all time embodied a tragedy of all time so in a way we can say that that that is the the impossibility of understanding the own time the own the own experience of the world sorry he's not just one of those savage children of those times I don't know because his conflict is not just about society or the social rules of a place or a moment besides that that is something that he suffers as a social metaphysical he also suffers the materiality of reality it's not just a political or social conflict but also a bodily and material one the process of of learning and of learning how to relate with the world of caspars is is dance is dance is como la la primera danza is like her first dance like and dance of the audience y permite ver como como el cuerpo tiene un pulso con la propia fisicidad del mundo and it allows us to see how the body um is has a pulse that is related to the physicality and materiality of the world and it also allows you to make all this reflection from the point of view of game and a child perspective and it's a character that is very sad but very tender at the same time and all those nuances permit also to see the different nuances in that relationship with the world there are many different interesting things in this relationship but one of the things for example that I that I feel when I dance it is the the um yeah the muteness and the deafness of the world si el mundo está sordo the world is deaf yeah the audience connecting um the the second question with the idea that I was speaking about of the body be narrative in itself I think it is not strictly necessary to understand the to to know the story to to enjoy the play or I would like it to be like that I think plays have layers and depending on your knowledge and and the things you like if you know about contemporary dance or music or theater you like the answer you don't like it depending on all those things I imagine that yes if you read about Kaspar or you know the music is it's more interesting to see the way it works but for me it would be a failure if it couldn't be understood in other ways and did I really like when people that comes to see the play don't know about Kaspar and they look for more information afterwards and about the third question um I'm now in a different creative moment this play was created in 2015 and it was um first stage in 2016 but in that moment the distance between the character and me I thought that was fundamental for the work being a woman being from a different sense and century thank you thank you um so um we have time for at least another question um your performance was extraordinary and I'm very interested in your training because it's clear that the emotional part of it was was as acting as an actor as well as an extraordinary dancer so I'm curious about your training and what it included my training has been very eclectic I've always done dance and theater in parallel I've always known that I'm not a textual actress in that sense but I've worked with physical theater a lot and as a choreographer I've always been interested in um in work from characters I've studied different folklorists like flamenco, classical dance, indias I've studied different folklorists such as Indian dance and flamenco and I've also been always an interpreter of my own world, I interpret my choreographies, I dance although now I'm in a different moment I've always been bored about seeing the dancer in dance I'm interested in seeing the human being not just the dancer and for me dance reveals the interior of the body it doesn't hide it and I think that technique has to serve to speak about fragility and there's a lot of technique work but it works in a way where virtuosism is about the soul and not the the finish of the technique and I like that the selection of movements in display are the ones of caspars or the ones that caspar makes in me not my own okay we have time for one more question when you conceptualize this or when you were making it did you predict that it might have like a dark humor or that the audience might laugh sometimes because I wanted to laugh but I wasn't sure if I should I think it's a very comic character in a sense and when I hear laughter I know that the play is going fine I know people doesn't they're to laugh always but Caspar has a very good time with the horse and he's also a really cool character in a sense but he has a very good time with the horse and he's also a really cool character in a sense and I'm really interested in how like silent cinema or good comedy is able to to put all together like human misery but but comedy also we do have time for one last question the last last do we have one more question yeah yeah question oh sorry well perhaps to bring mark back into the conversation because also we're talking a lot about pleasure and I think that's an important part of your work too um if like to give you a little bit of a sneak peek into his work his work is quite politically incorrect I believe sometimes also illegal like there are some plays that include some illegal activities but there are also social experiments in the sense that yeah like we are creating these spices where where we are not sure how to react and I think that's what's what's so interesting about theater about gathering a group of people in the room and I think your work in that sense quite managed like uh very interestingly I think it generates these social experiments where we're not that sure it's not that much of a question I think it's like a commentary on the the legality all the yeah the no but I mean if we live in a in a world where some spectator is afraid to love in a in a play for me was very surprising that not because I mean it's like I mean we've been so domesticated in how how we have to behave in some places that that we are like constrained all the time no I think that the theater has to be a space of freedom a space of relationship and and when I told them in the workshop that I like sometimes when as a theater director I feel like a the guy that's organizing a party so that's and I want to treat the spectators for me are my guests no so that's why sometimes I give I like to give during or after or before the play give some food or some drinks or some drugs some cases so in order to to to well to it's a way to to to make them feel comfortable no like like people feeling a party no so so I like I like this idea no that like it's it's a point of we meet and we have to and a party it's sometimes it's funny sometimes it's sad and and and sometimes it's it's political too no so so I think respect to the idea of things I I won't I won't confess anything because you know I cannot say if it's true or if it's false no because I don't remember thank you well I want to thank again Carlos González Luz Arcas Marca ellas thank you so much for flying all the way here and making us enjoy so much with your work and uh french heckner is oh so um today is the last day um the last um event for the seagull center and it's also the last day for Ilaida Akin so we just wanted to recognize her work she's been working at the seagull all year so this is a public recognition we're so happy to have had you all this time thank you um and I want to thank Ana Sanchez Acevedo um Alex Viteri Danny Viltueña it's been so fun organizing this with you um it's been wonderful I'm very happy it's done I want to thank you too Mada thank thank you very much because I think I I know it's hard like it's been hard and thank you so much for making it possible I'm super happy that we we were able to do this and speaking about party and celebration we're going to head to the archive on 36th street whoever wants to join we'll have some wine um and we can continue the conversation 36th street between Fifth Avenue and Madison Avenue um and thank you again for coming and thank you thank you


Hey everyone shave everyone 1,000 here today. We're gonna be checking these cameras out and They were cheap and remember how much they were put it across the screen right now One of these up and check them out and I'll tell you what we're gonna do with them stick around Okay, so we got it. We got these cameras the Wi-Fi panorama panorama camera and it says easy to Achieve real-time remote viewing now you can record with these have a memory card or You can pay for the cloud Because the memory card you only hold so much and then it'll just supposed to be able to just be able to keep recording over the cards But um, and this is the way it came Hey address just like this Not taped up nothing a little bit of damage there There's some damage there Kind of dent it here You know, it's just And I why would you send something like that? Just you know, it's getting thrown around It's not even tape closed. So I did check make sure everything was in here it is I'm surprised it is like these cards, you know this box not being taped Somebody open that up and steal your damn cards and then you know, you can't prove that so All right, so we've got our two cards or 64 gig each And we've got two of these one for each camera, which is you know the little thing you open up to put your card in Now it's got these things, but to see these are they're You can screw them into a regular light socket, okay? But they give you these which I don't know my opinion is kind of useless but anyway, which Shows on the box or show you what it's What says it comes with You know one of those flat things see where the wire would come out And then you screw your ball into that so but they gave me these it's Kind of I don't know Stupid Let's get one of these out here. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna hang on up right now and then see if You see if we like it and if we do I'll put one on each corner at the front of the house And then the two I got out there. I'll move around back But we got to see if we like them first And if we really like them, we'll we'll get cloud But oh these things just must be for a reset There's a reset button here Right there So it swivels. It's supposed to turn so far each way and then it goes Up and down. I can't remember how many degrees.  I can't really read that but I think it says 360 degrees This way, you know turning this way Yeah, it's 360 degrees this way. I can't remember how much it goes up and down. How many degrees? And it doesn't say supposed to have night vision so but Yeah, so that's that so what I'm gonna do.  That's pretty boring You got a hotspot connection You know stuff like that It's supposed to have Motion tracking so if it picks up motion, it's supposed to follow it, you know what I mean And you're supposed to have two-way talk So it's supposed to like if somebody's walking in front of it it picks them up It's supposed to follow them zoom in what not Like I said, I'll have to read the user manual manual for all that Which is kind of it is in English but it's kind of broken English, but You get the idea You got you got your function description. You got your video playback SD storage cloud storage Like cloud storage, you know, it says click the cloud icon to enter the cloud storage interface Choose the type of cloud storage base on your demands. Click continue and pay it I'll click continue and pay. All right, so Let me get this all set up My app set up and we're gonna take it out I'm just gonna run an extension cord right now like some I'm just gonna hang it up in front of the house I'm right out front here kind of in the center. I've got you know an outlet there And I'm gonna hang it with an extension cord We'll hang it there and try it out for a few days So if we like it or not, we'll be you know, I'll be able to tell within a couple days if I like it But we'll just have to see I don't know if it gives you notifications or anything like that I'm not sure, you know, there wasn't much about it because it was so cheap But you get two of them. So I figure what the hell we'll try it if anything maybe when keep one in here I don't know. We'll have to find we'll figure all that out later But right now let me like I said, let me get my app set up and then I'll be back with you. Okay guys This this is what I got set up for temporary right now Things trying to follow me Look at that SD card Doesn't fit in there, right But it will not follow me up and down so if I'm going up a hill that doesn't make sense, but So let's go. Let's see if it follows me over here to the vet Yep very shaky Course like I said, what was it 40 bucks, but still you know, okay now I'm gonna turn it up this way get my phone right I'm gonna turn it up this way And well and also this if you push the up button it goes down if you push it down button The buttons aren't right, but if you flip it then your image is upside down. There's that It's very slow not real responsive. Okay, so There's one alert at 518. It's 525.  There's the home screen. All right, so I'm going to come back with you and There's one alert just click on the alert I Was earlier so it's got none of us right this second. So I don't know why I've got it on I've got it set. I'll show you here My phone's about to die. Let's go to settings SD card recording All-time recording Doesn't seem to be doing that doesn't make sense. I Don't know guys All right, so we're gonna come back out at night and see how well it picks up at night. Also, I Can do this There we are there so I mean it's all right for I mean, I wouldn't rely on it, you know Because it's supposed to be giving me notifications. It has not given me one notification that has not sent me an email or anything So All right, I'll study up some more on it And we'll go from there.  We're gonna go outside check this camera out see what it looks like at night I'm gonna shut this porch light off the camera now that's That not okay. I didn't pick this up I don't know if you can see yeah, that's the light From that It does have an alarm that's supposed to go off, but it doesn't go off all the time. Now also I Think I'll pick up mosquitoes and stuff flying past because I looked in it a little bit ago with my phone and there's the alarm and It was following mosquitoes But I can see that it's following me that light will shut off in 60 seconds and then come back on So we're going over here Let's see if it'll follow me over here. It should because I had it turned I Mean it'll turn clear back around. It doesn't actually it's 360, but you can't let turn it around and around It'll go like it'll point like towards the wall and Then you have to go back around the other way Let's see if we get this light to kick on again So, you know, it's pointing over here. So it's going that way. I think it's chasing this bug here Trying to get it to turn back around. That's kind of Stupid And also that thing is very loud. See it's going right back around It's that bug there.  So if it's pointing that way, how's it gonna pick somebody up?  It's going that way. Oh because keep forgetting there. We are Now let's see if it'll follow me.  See no make sense It will not follow me like up and down like if I was on a hill or something Okay, so See it'll come clear over here. I'm trying to get it to follow me Once it locks on to you, you know, see there it's it's trying to see Let's go up here See it's still facing that way They quit following me.  Okay, turn the app off and the light came on And this is supposed to be recording all this guy. So I don't know if it is or not See it's pointing that way how anyhow Is that thing supposed to pick up something if it's not pointing out this way? See here we are and it's going the wrong way again Come on. See It's pointing the wrong damn way There it comes because I picked up that car Let's put the footage up from this and then I'll come back with you with my final thoughts I'm gonna take the card out of there and then we'll we'll go from there Okay guys, so here's the thing this thing Do I recommend it now I'll put a link in case you want it for like inside your house Maybe it'd be better. I'm gonna hook the other one up inside tonight See if it's better in there, but for outside motion tracking it sucks You know I Know for the price. What do you expect? Well, I expect it to do what it says it'll do and it doesn't I mean, you know, I hate when people say what do you expect for the price? Well, you know Expect it to do what it says it will do and it's not I mean the motion tracking You know doesn't really lock on Once it finds me It takes a minute to stop and then has to go back and then it passes me again and it just You know if you want one just to put outside or something to look around a wildlife Maybe I don't know might be alright for that. Like I said, I'll link the description or I'll link it in the description, but The point is it's and when I imported I'll throw a screenshot up right now so if you look up in the left hand corner It says December 1969. I can't change it. It doesn't say that on That like the images and stuff Has the right time and date I think I didn't even really look at the date But the thing about it is it's you know For security no for fun. Yeah, it's it's fun for 40 bucks. Like I said, I'm gonna try it inside the house I'll let you know later how it does inside the house That'll be alright, but I'm not going to use it for security out here Supposed to send me an email every time that thing locks on to something and it doesn't I've got 240 some video clips and I Got like three emails That's it. So You know, I mean I can't talk to somebody because I won't know they're there unless I happen to just be looking and seeing It's not gonna let me know that someone's walking up I can't talk. Excuse me. I can't talk to him. You can't turn the alarm down And you can't turn it up. It's not very loud That's not enough to scare anybody Security reasons no especially like if you're if you're going to plan on, you know, let's see you sell car stares or Camry equipment or you know you work on that stuff You got a garage with a lot expensive tools don't don't get that for security. It's it's not gonna work for you guys. It just It's it's just not you can't You know distinguish like like on the door on the ring doorbell you can you can You know put it for people only this you can't do that. Like I said, I understand the price. It's so cheap though Yeah, but this thing is recording nothing but bugs and I noticed over there on the Toyota Like if a car is coming up the street here From left to right right now, you know the the headlights Go down this You know reflect down the side the truck this way and I noticed it's locking on to them so and it's locking on to every little bug it picks it up and The quality as far as for outside. It's horrible Yes, I don't I don't know what's going on with that 1969 bullcrab But now if you look here storage, but you know, I've got it on memory card All right Format storage card Since I'm not on the cloud I'm going to format the SD card Okay Okay, it worked that time now I just tried it like four times for our turn the camera back on and it wouldn't it wouldn't format it so I don't know guys for I'll let you know how it does inside the house, but For security outside now. There's no way. There's no way that things gonna lock on to something and Follow it and track it, you know If somebody's like creeping through your yard by the time it tries to get locked on and everything your stuff's gone Your car was gone. Whatever your stereo has gone out of your car Now I don't recommend it. I will link it down below. I'm I don't know if I'm gonna send it back or not They do have more expensive ones like that, but I don't know if they'd be any better They're all pretty much the same and they all say the same thing What what gets me is they make it out to be something that's not and like when they Like if you look at ads or videos that shows it locking right on to somebody and following them and and all that I don't know what what it's doing that for It shows them locking on to it and zooming in and out and it's falling them around where you saw it Doesn't like to follow me You know it by the time it catches up to me It's done past me and then it has to go back and it passes me again, and it's so loud It's so loud The motor you'll probably heard it in some of them clips But there you go guys now. I'm not happy with it at all. I Don't recommend it. I will put one in the house.   I don't know guys Anyway, thanks for watching. I appreciate it Shaber the myth of man legend. I'm gone for now It's getting a couple thumbs down for me. I may even send it back because this is Now I mean for 40 bucks, you know, you buy a cheap camera and set up outside with a memory card and You know let it record whatever but as far as motion tracking. It's horrible So it's no better than the ones I got up here on the corner of the house You know and then if that's all you got let's see you got got a couple of those and it's trying to you know, what if you only have one and It's trying to lock on something. It's moving around. You can't see anything else You cannot see anything else because it's trying to catch up to that It can't lock on fast enough and it won't stay locked on. It's I don't know horrible Thanks for watching guys. Appreciate it. Hope y'all have a good weekend. Stay safe and we'll see you soon Bye-bye and take care everyone