Hello, everyone. Welcome to the live stream. Long time since I've seen some of you. Hi, Chris. Hi, Matt. So we've just been on the Just Create More Zoom call all about live streaming. So I'll see if any of it actually robs off and this becomes any better. Hi, Paul. Great to see you here. By the way, I'm always prepared with my coffee. I have two mugs ready to go, but then I've always got another liter on standby. So I'm definitely good for coffee. Hey, Heather. How are you doing? It was great Zoom call that was. The last one had to drop out 10 minutes early, obviously, to get ready for this and just get myself tanked up a bit more coffee. So we're going to get into my update and the title of this live stream was my least productive week on YouTube because I'm obviously aiming to average a video a day and I only actually did one video this week, apart from the live stream, obviously, which I do count it in the total, but it's just the one video. Hello. I'm not sure I know your name actually. Business growth ready. Great to see you. And inspirational connection as well. Let me know your names and then I can actually call you by name as well. But yeah, so this week I've basically I'll put up my little figures. So last week I was one video ahead on my sort of total tally. But this week we're on day 127 and I've now only done 123 videos. Hey, Rich, great to see you. I was just saying I've had an appalling week this week on YouTube. I've had an appalling but it's, oh, it's sorry, of course, Michael. Is that a different YouTube name? I thought it was a different name last time. One must be confused. Great to see you though, Michael, and great to see you too, Samantha, as well. So yeah, this week has not been my most productive, only only one video done since my last weekly update. And I blame two things really.  I mean, like here now in Thailand, it's 5am. So basically between 4am and 6am is my sort of content creation time, if you like. And the rest of the time is family and other work. So so that's the sort of two hour window that I've got to actually create these videos that I'm making. And given that my videos are like half an hour each, and then you've got to allow half an hour on either side of them as well to sort of create a thumbnail and upload them and all that sort of stuff. So yeah, it's probably another 30, 45 minutes, something like that, on top of recording the actual video, which is just a live recording, obviously, to get it up there. So I've wanted to watch leap into live this week. So I've been watching some of those. I've still got a load of replays to catch up on that because I've literally just had a couple of hours a day at it. But the other thing that happened, which was not so pleasant, was last week after my live stream last week, I did record one video, and then my little daughter, my five-year-old Emily, was jumping on the bed with her older daughter, Jasmine. And Emily fell off and basically landed face first on the floor. So we spent the weekend in the hospital with her.  There's not going to be any lasting damage and nothing broken, but yeah, not the pleasant little thing for a little five-year-old to go through. So that was my weekend. And fortunately, she's almost as if nothing happened now. They like that, though, aren't they, kids? They're pretty resilient and sort of recover from these sorts of things. So yeah, that's basically why I have not been so productive with the videos this week. That's my excuses out of the way. Oh, by the way, Emily was still jumping on the bed again yesterday. So yeah, she's obviously back to her old self again. So yeah, the watch hours, though, have crept up. So normally, I tended to find that like on a week-on-week basis, the watch hours would go up by 1,000 and the views would go up by 1,000 as well. Oh, sorry, watch hours would go up by 100. The views would go up by 1,000. And then this week's the first that they've kind of jumped up by double that. So like 200 watch hours and 2,000 views as well. So it was nice to hit that little milestone in the week, the 400 subscriber level, and also the 20,000 views as well. I like that about TubeBuddy, the way that you get the little sort of milestone achievements and things like that when I look in the app and another one comes up.  And to be honest with you, I'm always blown away, to be honest by it, that I don't lose sight of the actual numbers involved and that these are all of you lovely people that actually decided to click that button and watch my stuff. It kind of boggles my mind, to be honest, but there you go. So that's how the videos have gone, though, this week. But my other thing that I'm doing, and arguably much more important challenge, is also this great cycle challenge. So that is for the month of September, and we're on day 17, actually day 18 here, but I will be going out on a ride later. So I didn't count today. And I haven't actually done any cycling.  But then through the week as well, I've just been obviously busy with the other stuff with Leap Into Live and so on. So I haven't been doing my morning rides either. So I've not been on my bike this week, which has now made this challenge that I set myself of 400 miles, whereas last week I was a third of the way in, and I'd done a third of the miles. Now I'm kind of almost to two thirds of the way in, and only done a third of the miles. So I've got an average about 21 miles a day, something like that. So I've got a couple of long rides planned. So I'm going to do one this weekend and one next weekend. There's only two weekends before the end of September. So yeah, I'm going to have to really pump out some miles, I think over the next week or so to make that back up so that by this time next week, hopefully, I'll be back on track for the average. So in case anybody isn't aware, the great cycle challenge is to raise money, as it says there, to fight kids' cancer. I don't think I need to mention anything about that cause. Do I really?  And so I can't imagine the unbearable pain that people must go through when you've got children with something like this. It's just heartbreaking really to even think about it for the children and the parents and just everyone involved, it must be devastating. So it's raising money for this cause and so if you want to go and support the challenge, if you go to takeonetech.io slash ride, then that'll take you through to my page on the Great Cycle Challenge website and there you can go and donate to that. So if anybody has found any value in anything that I've been doing, then in my channel, then this would be a really great way to show support for the channel content by going and donating. But also you're welcome if you just obviously want to support an amazing cause, then this is a great opportunity to do it. So yeah, but hopefully next week I will have a lot more progress on that front to talk to you about. The other thing which is sort of pailing into insignificance really compared to that is the Tweet 100 Challenge. So that's basically just tweeting every day because I had been using Twitter more as a... It was more automated really, so I was just basically reposting my YouTube posts and things like that or YouTube uploads would just get auto-posted to Twitter and things like that and cross-posting stuff from my Facebook, so I wasn't actually particularly active on it. So I've been trying to be a bit more active and you know what I think about goals? Setting a goal is always a good way to actually get something done. So the Tweet 100 is just a nice little way to do that where basically you just Tweet every day for 100 days but actually try and think about something meaningful rather than just reposting or stuff like that. So I've been doing that. I think I have actually missed a couple of days. I don't quite know how, but when I look at the sort of... Basically you just use hashtag Tweet 100 and then every day you change the number on your handle to like one to 100. So yeah, I've been doing that but there is a thing that you can go to to actually check on your tally how many you've done. So it appears that I've missed a couple, but I'm not quite sure where I've done that. I might have just maybe the time zones caught me out because they do check it at a specific time, maybe I posted before or after that. So anyway, I'm not really fussed about it. It's just more of getting into the habit of actually doing that. So I have been a little bit more active on Twitter. So that's that. Bye Heather. Just noticed that one coming. Thanks for stopping by. So yeah, that's what I'm doing with the Tweet 100 and as I say, it's just more of a thing to get me into using it. So by the way, if you're not following me on Twitter then it's Take One Tech underscore rather than Take One Tech. Somebody had already got Take One Tech. It's a Japanese tech firm actually. So there you go. But anyway, so that is me on Twitter. That is about all I've got to cover except for the leap into live. So by the way, I'll just stick this up. And then on the call today or on the stream then hit the link. Actually, what I'm going to do is I'm just going to change this because let me just take one tech.io because the thing about the live one is it's not actually got SSL and it was Michael actually after the last show mentioned that if you go to the live link then it got blocked by some people because it hasn't got SSL and I haven't got the round to actually fixing that yet. And once again it's my friend Mr Matt. Let me just add Matt in. He says joining. He's coming on the line. I'll just run through some of these things, these comments. Leap into live was fantastic. It was, wasn't it? I still not watched I've still not watched Tom and Heather yet. I've basically been just watching the two that are that were on at the time when I was up. Hang on just one second. I'm not seeing Matt for some reason. That's strange. Try this. Technical issues. I'll talk through them. I'm not seeing your picture Matt.  Leap into live. Let me tell you the sessions that I've watched so far. I watched Stephanie Liu kick it off on day one. The replay of that. And then I watched my other friend Greg. This one. Hey, Greg, how you doing? Can you? Can't hear you at the moment. I'm not hearing you. Let me see if that's on my end. I'm still not hearing you. It says guest has muted themself. Must be on the actual browser itself. I'm guessing. If it's telling me on my end. So on the e-cam live like the login. More technical issues. That's live streaming. So yeah, I watched Stephanie Liu. I watched Anna and Fulgians. They always make me laugh. Usually they're here we go, joining in again. They're session that they do on the e-cam live Facebook group. That's always good. It's always morning time for me. So we're still having issues with somebody joining. So Greg is now trying to join again. Not having much luck today, are we? So now I'm just seeing the little avatar, this little picture when somebody's trying to join. I'm wondering if this is something on my side or not. Not sure. I'll carry on and see if we have any more luck a bit later. Fourth time lucky perhaps. So yeah, Anna and Fulgians they did a great session. I watched Brent Collins. These are all day one. I had to do a successful live show. Obviously I'm failing a little bit today. All the technology is letting me down. Day two. This was a brilliant day. The ones that I watched. I watched Mary Lou Mandel about a guy to Instagram. This was just like if you've signed up to Leap Into Live and you haven't watched this one I can watch that. I felt like I learned so much about Instagram that I just was unaware of. Also Kelly Noble Mirabella about chatbot strategies. So that was... I've done a little bit with chatbots before but she did a really great session on that. Let's see if Greg's joining. Hey, how's your sound? It still says, Greg, it says guest has muted themself. And I don't think that in Ecamm you've got the ability to unmute. It should be on the on the actual browser. There'll be a little mute thing somewhere. I'm just not sure where it is. Let me just quickly have a little look and see if I can find out myself. There will be a mute thing somewhere. Um... We're going for 5th time lucky. I'm just going to do this on my side because I'm interested to know where the mute is. There must be a mute somewhere. I can hear you now. I can hear you. We're in business. 5th time lucky. I saw your note about not being productive this week. I can commiserate on the fitness friend at least. Oh, yeah.  It was a big ride, so you know what happened is I hurt my knee pretty badly. Um... When I was leaving in the morning before the start of my ride, I was like, oh, that feels weird. And I, you know, of course rode on it for... for six hours. Of course. What else could you do? What else do you do, right? And so when I came back, I haven't rode all week basically because my knee's been bad. Right, right. Yeah, we've got some catching up to do. Unfortunately, my race is next Saturday though, so I'm saving myself so I can do the race. Yeah. Yeah, that long ride that you did, when I saw you got the little, the animation of where you were going, and I thought, oh no, he's heading right towards those mountains.  Yeah, yeah. Coming back, you're going to have to earn what you did. Yes, yeah, yeah. I've told you my strategy, my strategy is ride until I can't ride any further and then think, oh crap, now I've got to get back. It's amazing though what you... Yeah. It was 100 degrees though on that day too, so... Right, right. Yeah. It's amazing though, when you think you've got no more left in you, because I think like, oh, I'm totally worn out now. And then, I always managed to get back.  I will be honest, there were several points where I stopped. Like, I just like close to my house, it's always like when you're close to your house. Yeah, yeah. But I was like three miles from home and I just could not, I couldn't take anymore, I just got off the bike, I sat down. It was the heat and my water had all gone like warm at that point. Right, right. You know, and I was like, I literally I can't do anymore. I was supposed to do 80 that day and I was like, I just can't. Right, right.  I'm like, everything was just painful at that point. I was like, I'm just no, not doing anything. So you ride next weekend that's the 100, is it? Saturday, yeah. Right, right. So it should be 49 degrees in the morning when we leave. Right. So much cooler. Yeah, yeah. Just a little bit, yeah. And hopefully it'll top out at about 70. How you doing? Right. Yeah, I don't know, we'll see. I think I can do it. It was just a knee and the heat. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, it was more of the heat. The knee, like I was fine, like I would have probably just kept going. Yeah. But the heat was just daunting. Like there was parts, I was going like I said, I was going 30 miles an hour, some of the all path, like for the way out and then coming back I was going like 5 miles an hour. Right, right, yeah. Yeah, I'm never quick on the way back. I did not get my bike into the highest gear like my bike is very, I don't know, it's like, you know, do you know that the big gear in the front, like I don't know I could not get it back on there either. Oh, right, right. Because he kept slipping off and yeah, I just couldn't get into the main gear so I could never generate like any more torque like pedaling either, you know, so I sort of, honestly, I felt like I was in the right gear at that point because I couldn't I couldn't imagine being able to push it and that, you know, you're going you're going slower in the smaller rings, right, so yeah it was rough. Cool, cool. Well, I'll I'm not sure I'm not sure I'll do 100 mile next weekend but I'll I'll be with you in spirit. I'll try and do a long one. How many people are doing the event that you're in? That's a good question. I don't know. My guess is I'm a couple hundred at least. Right, because that's always I find a bit of a motivator as well if there's other people around you doing it. Yeah, well also it's easier right because you know Keith was pointing this out like when you're riding, if you're going 15, 16 miles an hour on your own in a group, you're getting two, three miles from the draft, right? So if there's a few hundred people in this race, you'll be able to draft or take turns like hopping in front of each other, etc. So it should ease the ride a bit. Yeah, it definitely makes a difference and the sort of the sort of morale of the pack as well.  There's other people around, there's like people cheering you on, right? There'll be support vehicles to help you. That's it. Did you watch any of the leap into life stuff by the way? Did you watch any of those? I gotta be honest, I got maybe a couple of them in, you know, just busy week with work and stuff, and I tried when I could. I don't like the pre-recorded stuff. No, it's a bit of a shame because it's better when you have that audience interaction.  Yeah, yeah, I get why they did that though because I think there's some people that maybe they're talking about like a technology or something like that that's to support the live streaming. Like also if somebody is talking, you know, from sure, for example, talking about microphones or I haven't actually watched that, so I don't want to pick somebody out, but there were people there that maybe themselves aren't natural live streamers, so they're not so comfortable in doing it, but they're just talking about like a product or something like that. Yeah, so here's what, honestly, I think what happened is it aggravated me that there were so many recorded things, so I'm like, I don't need to be here alive then. So after that, it was just sort of disincentivized to like bother trying to tune in. Yeah, yeah. Maybe interacting, there's not like a chance someone might actually answer my question or at least you don't seem personally. So I'm like, I got other things to do. I'll just, I can watch the replays later, right? There was a few where they did like a pre-recorded, but then the person that had done, you know, the representative or whatever of the company or whatever the person who did the recording was in the chat answering questions and then they did sort of like a Q&A afterwards, but yeah, I totally get what you mean, good stuff. Chris just mentioned the Descript one. That was one of the ones that I watched on Day 2, that was really good. I'm definitely going to get back into doing more with Descript. Yeah. Kirk Nugent, I watched him on Day 3. He's always good at like Kirk and that on the art of the interview. So that was an interesting one. And then also I watched another one, Jeff say on the using live video to grow a podcast. So that was that was very appropriate because I still haven't obviously done any more about my podcast as of yet. But yeah, let me have a little look. Greg, not sure the post presentation Q&A is a part of the replays. Ah, right. Okay, that's interesting. So yeah, there was where they did it like a Q&A after the fact. After the pre-recorded bit, got you. That makes sense I suppose if they've just got a batch of videos that you're going to upload. Yeah, there was definitely good topics there. Hopefully we'll get back to watch some of them. There is a lot of content these days that is good. I did find though that I mean even the pre-recorded ones that I watched, it was still really good, concise stuff. For sure. One of the ones I saw that I was like, oh this is good but like I got like other people were there watching. Like my wife is doing a conference for her company next, I think it's next month. Right, right. Everything's pre-recorded, you know, and it actually added a lot of stress for her because she was the one who had to like coordinate all those people, you know, bring stuff together. So it's actually, it's harder to do pre-recorded actually. Yeah, Doc was saying that he had an issue getting all of the stuff out of some people so.  So yeah, there's I'm not saying that it's not technically challenging or difficult but I do feel like a thing called we've been to live should be as alive as possible. That's true and speaking of which I've just got to say hi Tom. I've still not watched Tom and Heather's thing yet. So I was just literally watching the ones that were on at tie time, 4 a.m. to 6 a.m. so I've got to go back and watch all the rest and catch up with them all. I did see part of that one. By the way, I did sell my laptop today. Oh, did you? Oh, cool. Yeah. So the old MacBook Pro is going away. Yeah. Hey, what did you think of the Apple event? Did you watch any of that or see? I didn't watch any there. Right, right. I was trying to find to ask news from James Hicks. Yeah, he does it. I love his show that he does, by the way, the tech show that he does with Tallboy and I watched that. They did a really good show. So there's the sports one, but then there's the tech one that they do on a I want to say Thursday. It will be Wednesday, Wednesday evening, U.S. That's right. Yeah. He does a load though. He's great. He's really. He's doing a new show.  Oh, cool, cool. I'll just put this comment up and let's take a snapshot. Thank you very much, Robert. That's a I've heard some conferences delay that make sense, rich. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know all by the way, I don't know if it's only that as we all know processing a lot of this data can take a long time and yeah, having cuts and a lot of other things because a lot of times some of these conferences also are doing multi-camera filming, but then they don't use multi-camera per se like in the in the live presentation, but they may cut it back together in different ways. Yeah, so we're live, but also some production stuff. Right, right. Yeah, I saw the email about that Paul. So yeah, they leap into live the replays. They're not going to be actually on that platform. I don't think are they putting them somewhere else. Yeah, that's if you see that, that's funny due to a technical problem the entire second day was run off a job. That's brilliant. Couldn't we speedify though? Couldn't you blend multiple phones together technically? Technically, I think you could. Yeah, you just have to link to them or I'm running speedify now and it's got my mobile and the internet by Ethernet and Wi-Fi as well. I really like speedify. It's obviously found out about it from Doc, but I've done a video on it, but it's a great service. Which one is the spotier connection for you? To be honest until I started live streaming, my connection was pretty solid, but then I've had a few instances of it dropping out. I mean, it's like 100 meg up and down. So and I've got Ethernet down here. So my route is upstairs, but then I've got Ethernet down to here. You're wired? Yeah, and then I'm using Wi-Fi as well because they also said if you've got like a hub, which I haven't got a I haven't actually got a hub. I'm just plugging straight into the Mac Mini, but they said if you've got a hub with an Ethernet as well you can actually plug two Ethernets in and it will actually help. It will add to the sort of data transfer. So you're still technically using the same internet connection, but it's just able to transfer more over the two cables basically, and so it's a different bus in all of this. It is technically two connections and so the software knows how to bridge and can leverage the fact that that's the case. Yeah, what probably ends up happening is it pushes your live stream to one of them and then all your other traffic starts getting through together. Yeah, yeah. It's great that you can use it on the mobile as well, like as a standalone thing. So it's, I mean, I was already paying for a VPN. So this is basically it's got all the functionality of a VPN and it's, I think it works out about the same price anyway as just a decent VPN in the end, I think. So yeah, it's pretty good on the mobile to be able to have Wi-Fi connections and your cell signal as well and sort of combine those. And I've got an unlimited data plan anyway, so I've got no issue with tethering and downloading gigabytes over my, it's basically, what is it, thousand bar. So that's around about $30 a month for unlimited data and I get really fast speeds just over 4G on that. So I obviously get 30 $30. Okay. Yeah, a thousand bar, so $30. Yeah. I was like, that's pretty cheap. Yeah, 30 bar would be like a dollar. Yeah. That's amazing. Oh, hey, Dragon. So yeah, we've just seen each other on the Zoom call over on there, just create more. I should mention that as well. If you're not already a member of that community, I'll just cover my face up with it. Go to takeonetech.io slash create and join Tom Buck and Heather Ramirez, just create more community. I really love it in there. They've got some great sessions and it's great little community to be a part of that. Got that one. I haven't even been back since the last time. Yeah, so there was a Zoom this morning that Tom was running all about live streaming for beginners, but it actually covered, you know, there's quite a lot of, there's always questions that come up that are not necessarily entirely beginners questions and learning stuff in there. So yeah, it was great. Do they export the calendar out of this app into like a Google calendar? I think with the events, yeah, if you look in the events, then I'm not just in it at the moment, but if you look in the events then where you can see an event, you desire the link to the Zoom call, but there is a thing where you can add to calendar. I'm not sure if they've got a calendar setup where it's just like automatically. I don't have to come look here. Right. So let's add that as a feature request. I'll write it down now.  The day she announced her $50 million fund release. Is it Gina Tripani's set up Mighty Nox? Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, right, because I know of Gina, but I didn't know of, I didn't realize it was a thing to be honest. Oh, that's cool. Oh, sorry, not Tripani, it would be on the show. Right, right. Okay, I was going to say. Yeah. There's two of them. Two geners. Right, right. We've known her for a long time, but yeah, I love what Mighty is doing. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's a cool little thing. It is obviously another social network then that's just what I needed in my life, but because it's worth it for their life. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. How's the podcast coming? I know you were... Yeah, it's not, it's not. I've not done any more on it since your great idea. I'm not just running headlong into things like I did. Like I said, the reason for the podcast was I literally it was a sort of, I would say from the idea of me having, from, from me having the idea of starting a podcast to me having come up with the really rubbish title name created the little logo and the artwork for it and started recording my first one. It was probably like an hour. I put that much thought into it. And usually when I get like that about something that hasn't had this sort of preparation, I've got to do the preparation for it. So I'm just making, just going to get myself all set up with it and do it properly this time. That's the same with my, yeah, my shorts with my little TikTok venture as well. So I've set up a separate YouTube shorts channel on YouTube just so that I don't mess up all my stats and stuff with the short stuff. So yeah, I'm just going to put a bit of planning into it and probably maybe like the end of this month or something just get into actually start doing it.  And how's everything going with the with the app it's going well. We we're getting we were launching a basically a new product not it's like an entirely new product but it's a set of features that go together right called this meet. And so it's for doing meeting great events. Right. So we're working with a YouTube creator network and we've got about 50 million subs in that network. So but the idea of it is that kind of like we're doing here. Right. Except it lets you manage the queue of people that you want to come in. Yes, yeah, and it has built in timing so you can actually like track okay great I'm going to do one minute with each person like that. And you can also charge. So if you're going to do like a paid Q&A say yeah, actually charge to get on stage to ask but it still does multi streaming and all that stuff out. So we're using it for meeting greets or creators and yeah. Cool stuff. I've still not got any further with my setting up my thing on that yet. Anyone who wants to demo just shoot me an email I'm happy to set it up. I'd love to show all of you it sometime and have you give it a give it a whirl. It's fancy as e-cam but you have e-cam already so you don't yet. Yeah. Hey, but perhaps next week if you've got everything like get something set up and just do a little demo of it. I use it every week live for my actual my post show. Yeah. And yeah, it's ready to roll like we can use it whenever you want if you ever if you want to try demo like during your stream you know we can we can bring it up at least and show people what it looks like. Yeah. Could you want to do that now I mean you could have you got it already or do you want to do right now. Yeah. If you want to check it out here let me let me just start a browser window up and I'll just say hi Andrew. Yeah. Actually and we can we can have folks come join us here too if there's a link I'll give you how cool. Yeah. Be good to do a little demo when I first got the link from you and I went in and set up my thing and then I went in again and connected it to a few things just one of those things just the other time. I'm not sure if you can see my screen though. I've got a thing pop up now so if I select that as now let me think how I'm going to do this I need to have a this is not a complicated this is yeah this is where I should have put a bit of extra time in so when I do that I've added that in but it's I'm not actually seeing the I'm seeing it says it says your screen but I'm not actually seeing the screen I'm just seeing the little avatar thing oops and Greg's dropped out Greg's audio is lower than mine is it that's interesting it's funny that is because that sounds similar on my end I wonder why that is and we've lost Greg anyway I'm sure he'll be back momentarily I yet no problem that I gather there'd be some sort of connection problem I seem to have been having a few internet issues just recently yeah in the Greg's audio was very low was it really that's interesting so it's funny because it sounds right in my my ear but not on the stream okay and I'm actually at full volume on his interview thing let me see if I can adjust it on the actual interview window as well and still getting this same thing where it's just bringing up the avatar that's a couple of times that's happened normally it's either obviously brings the person in unless Greg is not enabled his video to show let me just quickly show you these audio things though just in case anybody's interested if I add a little screen sharing window over the top this is this is a bit of a disaster isn't it I probably shouldn't have started doing this no where's it gone I wanted to just show you and we've lost Greg again anyway where's that camera overlay gone I am indeed using the e-cam beta that could be a could be part of the problem couldn't it never use a beta in production but I've always just felt like there's yeah I haven't had any issues with it up until now so yeah perhaps that is what's what's going on and now I've got a camera overlay that is not disappearing there we go let me just lock this scene what I wanted to show you was the settings on the interview mode actually so I'll just come and quickly do this I need to lock that scene add in an overlay and then if I add this as oops not I want a camera I'm glad everyone's understanding let me so this is the screenshot and of course I can't see so this is a bug in the e-cam beta is normally when you are sharing the whole screen you have the option of showing or not showing the e-cam windows so you can have it where you say show everything when sharing the entire screen well in the beta it doesn't actually work so you can't physically show the the all the e-cam window so I was just going to show you on interview mode you can actually change the volume of the guests individually on the interview panel but then obviously you've also got on the sound levels panel you can change the audio levels from there and both of those for Greg actually are at like maximum so I've not got any way to turn him up on my side I did get the b3 the other day yeah so that came out pretty quickly after the first the second version didn't it so I am currently on yes v3.90 b3 is what I'm on okay well I guess we've got a little bit of a technical issue with Greg coming back maybe there is a reason to use the non beta version after all but I just can't get away from all the little features that it's got at the moment you know with all well all the beta features are just amazing that's a point isn't it yeah demo mode would so yeah I could do demo mode that would show everything there we go that is my whole screen that is the way around it what I was going to do was just drop on because it might be a bit small because I've got a 4k display so what I was going to show was just basically down here that the interview mode was uh ah the guest so Greg is just saying the guest mode is down on e-camp interesting so yeah I'd got interview mode here as the maximum volume and then on the actual interview window as well you've got this one where when you've got an interviewer on then you can adjust the volume there but yeah they're both maximum for me so that's uh not sure it is a beta issue actually but anyway so that's that's that's that so perhaps Greg if you can increase your volume on your and then that might be that might be a way to resolve that uh I tell you what I will do though while I'm in the process of sharing screens and I can I want to ask if anybody else has got this particular issue in fact let me come out of demo mode now um and I will go back to that little screen sharing thing ever since I got this new mini I have been getting this issue of uh let me just crop into this minute I've been getting this issue of you know when you grant permission to something like it will say there is a particular app that needs to access something in your system preferences uh so let me just make this a bit bigger so yesterday I did this with uh um what was it what's up it says it right there on the little thing and it says it would like to access your files and so you do this thing obviously where you go into your system preferences and then you grant access so uh in system preferences if I just open this up uh here we go I'll make this a little bit bigger so then you go into your system preferences box and you go into your security and privacy uh and then you've got this bit here where you go in and you can grant permission to things to access your whatever it is accessibility full disk access all of that sort of things so um if um if you need to grant access to something it'll pop up this little thing well I've found ever since I've had this mini there's been an issue where these little messages will not go away even if I have gone in and actually you know granted permission to it let me just uncover my face a moment uh so no matter what I do here if I just click this it's just persistent and it doesn't go away and even if I go into my uh system preferences and actually grant the permission like manually uh these things just persist and they just don't disappear I wondered if anybody else had had that issue it's a bit of a weird one uh and obviously it's done this since day one of the Mac with the software I've obviously done all of the updates that you do it's just a bit of a weird uh weird little issue so uh this is my little support request if anybody else has noticed that at all uh but there you go yeah it's weird isn't it uh never had that issue on my m1 yeah I don't know what it is and I can't think that it is something to do with an m1 specifically um it's it looks like a software uh issue really doesn't it so I'm not really sure anyway I just thought I'd put that out there while I was sharing my screen uh hey Justin nice to uh see you um so let me have a little look Greg has sent me a link on messenger right so here we go I'm going to try and see if we can get into this I'm not really sure what to expect with this actually let me have a little look uh we're basically going to try out the zealous app platform uh it's just been a little bit slow I'll get that I don't obviously open it on my mobile uh that probably is it isn't it Chris it's because I use a million different tools and they clash the thing about it is it has done it since day one before I even had anything on so I'm I'm I'm absolving myself of responsibility on this one uh in every other circumstance I always uh consider human error as the first port of call but uh yeah on this one I'm I'm laying the blame squarely with Apple uh let me see now Facebook is not loading up and I wonder if that's because I've got my uh just toggle this one off a minute so what I'm trying to do it is that it is the obvious thing isn't it so many little automation tools sometimes they're clashing I had a weird one actually when I was on a call uh the other day in fact with Chris where I went to press something to do a um what was it I was doing I was going into demo mode or something like that and it actually there was a must have been some sort of clash with a shortcut and it switched my um my mic source in zoom over to something else or no switch my speakers over to something else so instead of me hearing the other person speaking it actually changed it to something else where I couldn't hear them at all so yeah sometimes all these automation things you have to make sure that they don't clash uh oh hey Eileen great to see you as always uh let me have a little look I'm trying to get this link from uh from Greg to try out zealous app and for some reason when I go to try to go to my messenger I don't have uh I don't have a messenger installed on my uh my computer try to keep Facebook I don't have it embedded uh into that uh he's not loading up hang on let me copy it from uh try and copy it from here let's see technically if I copy it on my mobile it should uh work tell you what I'll just type it in manually this might be easier uh don't mind me talk amongst yourselves uh zealous demos dot zealous app help provide type it in the correct place wouldn't it uh here we go dead hair uh we'll be there in a minute just get this demo up and running let's have a little look typing out these things is not always the best or like you too uh is anybody else they can't necessarily type without actually speaking what they're typing okay I think we might be in business right so what do I need to do I need to share my screen do I have a little look whoops wrong part of my screen so um this is zealous dot app it is uh web based matt yeah uh let's have a look so I'll click on here test this one uh now I do have an account now who did I sign in with let me just uh quickly get this one I think I signed in with my Google didn't I just come to that one uh it would have been uh it would have been good if we had prepped all this in advance wouldn't it here we go I can't type and talk I sometimes do these demos and then I'm trying to talk while I'm doing it and I can't but then at other times when I'm actually trying to type a code or something I find myself just talking to myself reading it out uh right let's see I think we might be back in business here so whoops not that one this one uh let's try let's try it again so this is Greg set this up on his end now I wonder how this is gonna work there we go Greg so uh is this gonna create a little sort of loophole wormhole whatever it's called so be our guest join now this is gonna be feet this is gonna be a bit interesting because I'm basically joining I'm guessing it's gonna ask for the virtual camera uh allow now what's gonna happen here let's see what's happening she is isn't she yeah I really like her videos right so Greg I don't know if you can hear me I can obviously see you I wonder if you're not getting my picture because it's just actually coming from can you hear me at all Greg through this app oh hang on I'm muted oh I can hear you now can everyone else hear it Greg let me see can you use your camera directly can you hear me Elk try just using a different camera so where do I select my camera I'm thinking I have not got a camera that I can actually use at the moment the little gear the little gear where's the little uh the little uh little oh you can't can you can you now get to your camera Greg instead of there we go yeah the wrench sorry please enable camera access so how do I do that oh there we go can you you're not seeing me yet are you just starting up I wonder if it's going to feedback e-cam to you it might do because that's kind of my default camera I actually unplugged my other camera recently and I'm not sure you're getting my audio passing through though so that's cool yeah yeah I've said grunt permission is this now is this that thing that I was talking about where when I grunt permission it's not always immediately accessing it so that says please enable camera access um oh you know what the little camera icon in the toolbar Elk will let you do it so in the toolbar see if I click on the little wrench and then it says grant access you mean in the in the sorry the location the location bar for your browser yep go go to the location bar on the right hand side there's a little camera icon I'm not seeing the the mute one but I've not got a little camera icon I'm missing something there yeah you see it's muted you see where the mute icon if you click on that yeah so can you can you hear that through zealous interesting there's something to do with my camera though because it's not actually um it's not actually streaming my camera I hear you I can hear you you can hear me now yeah well in any event this is what it would look like let me just see if I can get quickly get because I've got camo yeah oh you could try reloading me the last person again the site drop out and come back in try chrome that is a great idea I don't think you need chrome should work as well I'll let out what I'll do is I'll just quick safari and then come back in again let's see if that works here we go give it another go let's see if it works this time and I think we've still got the same issue so I don't think my camera is still on this happens oh wait hold on now let me put you back on stage okay let's have a little look stage we'll find out it's not looking like it's it's coming up interesting here what I'll do is this I'm going to see if I can bring my co-founder on and we can show you what it looks like at least let's see if I can change my camera the beauty of live demos hey if you share that URL can you share that URL in the chat and then other folks can join us just drop that in here whoops okay I've just dropped that in the chat Aileen ready to do your demo whenever you're ready it will be that pull by the way I have got permission set for that this is the issue that had where alright we'll let you off Chris I'm just trying to see if I can change to a different camera actually so I've now got my little camera one up and let's have a little look if it is in my permissions yeah if anyone on YouTube wants to join they can just join that same link and they'll be able to come in yeah it's not looking like it's my permissions in my system preferences at least so not sure about that but we'll see we'll have to set up a bit of a better demo because I'm making a total hash of it it's definitely me not the platform yeah so the cool thing about this is just obviously if you want to see what we can do in here I've got this that same link Alec to the YouTubers we can get one of them to come in yeah I've dropped the link into the chat I think it's in the chat it's funny that it's not actually showing up in can everyone see that link it's showing up on my mobile it's just not showing up by stream of comments in it could be a settings thing because of links in chat oh yes well this is all the things today isn't it right hang on a second let me we'll find a way to do this let's see there you go this is a little meta obviously it's not the intended use cases no it's not we will have to do a proper demo let's get some folks and you'll see what happens maybe next week I'll actually do this stream on zealous instead of just like totally hacking this together with my computer not set up properly so I've got enable links in comments here comes so yeah it's kind of you mentioned like it's kind of like for video isn't it that permission problem does happen with the camera sometimes but it seems like the more complex your setup the worse it is yeah so it's cool you got like the people can join on the audience and then you can sort of add them into the call as well it's great yeah I'm going to show you okay here we got a it's Matt so now we've got one more friend joining us here we go what's up Matt hey how you doing oh wait I don't hear you we got no that was the issue that was that the issue oh no the issue that I had was no do you hear I don't hear anything I can't hear him no oh there we go I'm not still not hearing Matt sorry I don't know what's going on here but Alec as you can see here we can do different layouts automatically oh so let me just drag him so that he could jump in let me paste the link in Facebook chat in messenger picture in a picture I think he's okay here go now I hear you very good I'm good how are you very good thank you but I feel like I'm very vertical you are very vertical I can make you the star of the show now I don't know why it's I don't know like the proportion is not maybe it's on my side maybe I need to set something let me try another camera to see if it's better yeah that's a little better aspect ratio yeah the quality is less good because it's the the webcam from I mean the face cam from from my laptop from my Mac your laptop one got you I'll show you guys what's possible so I can screen share also so you can see what I'm seeing the primary view I've just sent you a link by the way yeah dragon to your Facebook messenger if you want to jump in as well so what were we looking at oh we've got I'll do it this way I'll bring up the dragons just joined in as well actual UI Paul this is all built in the browser it's sort of like trying to blend kind of some oh yeah here we go I see one more friend in here yeah so there we go now you can join as well Paul Duncan says you are hot I think he was referring to Matt's mic so he says that was an audio comment I'm offended Paul I thought he was talking about me we're getting there so yeah we get all these you get these layout modes kind of built in kind of like a stream yard and in fact it's streaming only on this platform right no so we can technically multi stream out to Facebook and Twitch and YouTube and LinkedIn live and other places as well thanks Rich I like your website look and feel very neat I like this kind of website where when you're scrolling down you have like the key messages it's very good I like it you see I mean so yeah the goal is to do something like Clubhouse with your audience so you can kind of like interview mode on Ecamm but we can have up to 15 people at a time in this experience and someone can raise the hand and say and come on the stage like as you said Clubhouse right yeah so we can technically have like millions of people in the room and you can you can have 15 on stage at the same time hey that's good I'm thinking on how to combine sorry I like it's cool we're taking over the stage I'm actually in preview mode I'm just we can integrate that into stream into Ecamm the way that Alec is doing right I think in Ecamm to integrate you would just go full screen with this experience and pass all of the audio through and mute yourself in your primary stream and let the audio all come from one place so there's no delays yeah that's good I like the concept of this so now it's not on beta anymore it's like it's an official it's live anyone can sign up technically and start using it but we are still working on different pieces yet so you don't have any like pricing or something like that we don't charge for this actually the way we make money is on the transactions if you sell tickets or if you receive tips or yeah nice I like this concept I mean it's first of all I like the concept of Twitter space or even Clubhouse but even a bigger fan of Twitter space yeah but adding the video to it I think it's bringing another perspective on how you're sharing things and it's pretty good sorry Alec it's alright I'm just in the middle of behind the scenes I'm actually just setting up a bit of a definite we are hijacking your channel that's fine you're welcome you go ahead I'm going to second I'll get this up in a minute yeah I'm checking this out as well it's a little square well his ECAM live square will be inserted in the right place that is exactly what I am doing one thing is I'm wondering why the space ratio of my camera is like this I have I don't it should be fitting but it's definitely interesting to see because I don't haven't seen that before but like the others were all okay otherwise yeah exactly I don't know why it's making this like that because I'm using a so it's a Sony ZB1 I mean like there is I don't know why it's doing that no idea there we go guys I'm getting an echo or repeat but I can't tell from where oh there we go you're you're probably getting an echo did you manually insert yourself into the right place yeah yeah so I'm Alec I know how to mess you up though watch this oh no I'll put myself down here then watch I just I just moved you that's cool there you go then so we have like a few picture in a picture modes like this let's play hide from Alec I'm gonna change around the screen I don't know why it's doing this camera let me try to switch up and start it again here I'll add Peter just so we get one more this is my co-founder by the way so he may be able to help hey Peter Matt Matt Matt's ratio is a little odd for some reason can you see it Matt challenge it's me aspect ratio yeah I'm like squished you know like someone is trying to make me a slimmer hmm I'll just say bye Chris thanks for stopping by I don't know maybe I can try to unplug and plug in this card maybe yeah I mean that's the first time I see that if you open ecam up does it give you the same look no I mean like I can try now but let me like unplug and plug it again sometimes he's working like that you guys hear me yeah they will okay that's great and your picture is very nice Mac the quality is very good that's a Sony a6400 well now it's stuck with a capture card I'm going into ATEM Mini Pro and then into the computer yeah this is 6400 in a cam link oh no yeah sorry I have an a6400 also with a cam okay okay but my lens is a f4 18-105 zoom lens because I'm teaching a lot and I would use a faster lens I have a 35mm 2.8 I have a 50mm 1.8 but I need to have this zooming ability because I'm teaching guitar and I'm kind of backing off coming in zooming in zooming out on some angles and whatever so that's the reason I have this lens but I like it I mean if I zoom in a little bit then I get the blur background without problems how far is the lens from you right now oh not even arms length oh interesting very close so it's zoomed into 25-26mm there's something there from ATEM I love your three camera setup where you've got the different angles on your guitar and that looks great actually what I did now is I'm listening oh actually Alex Mike is off here oh he's off on me you're bringing it back up yeah Alex settings are all wonky for some reason you can't get his camera to come on and I think the audio if you're getting a feedback from me I'm unmuted now yeah can you hear that what's the game Frogger which is video tile I think I can mute the youtube then and just listen here can you hear me okay now I don't know I think it's me because I'm getting a lot of I hear some you're perhaps also getting it because maybe Alex Mike coming into here for some reason sounds and your video looks a little better but still stretched I unplug restart the camera I've done everything possible but I would give a try later I think and see how it's working I really like this concept of bringing people on stage and you know yeah no it's we think it's a good way for especially creators with a larger audience that have fans that want to meet them or want to engage with them or if you're an expert or a coach or a consultant you want to do paid sessions or one-on-one sessions that's sort of the use case a couple of the use cases that make the most sense for us you know we've got our first test is going to be with a creator that has 2 million subs and they're doing a meeting for their fans to come through and so the fans are going to actually buy tickets to come to this event and then they'll get to be in the live stream of their favorite creator like the big the win for them very good it's kind of like restream internally right like we can do different layouts we can switch the way people are we can focus on certain individuals we can screen share to the mix as well you can focus any one person at any time up to 10 people I have a question for a large audience you're saying like it's like going to a concert where you can go backstage or something like that you can create different layers of ticket pricing with different access we have a currency you can get coins in zealous and you can use different amounts of coins to buy different kinds of engagements like one-on-one or group session or whatever it may be it's good that and the owner of the channel the creator can give away coins so they'll be able to every month if you're a subscriber let's say I'm a subscriber on their YouTube automatically you can give you 100 coins every month and so you can definitely build up more of this channel points kind of experience thing over time for being present in most streams or stuff like that I'm trying to chat private chats with the organizer this is just the room not just the speakers it's everyone in here you can technically change your chat too yes I see stage and backstage it's good this is very meta isn't it I do hear your mic do you hear us Alex? it will be something to do with you can see Matt we're debil amongst us but I'm also hearing Alex on YouTube I have the same but sorry to mute your YouTube I can just step away now I didn't mute YouTube because I was getting it twice and it was coming later see I could send it to my Alex should be here by the way I like on this picture say again what was that Matt I've lost Matt now by the way did I turn the audio off for my browser actually that way I'm getting Alex blended in properly I'm still not hearing Matt maybe Matt is not speaking this is quite a bit of a loophole I'm screen sharing my browser Matt's not speaking right now I'm enjoying the... Matt's mic is on Greg are you saying that you can hear from what is being broadcasted to YouTube? we're not really doing a proper broadcast to YouTube through zealous because I'm I'm screen sharing this on my listening through YouTube this is a bit of a weird wormhole does that... Alex's audio is not coming in properly but it's coming out of YouTube fine because my stream is obviously going to YouTube from my computer and I'm just screen sharing my browser window to show everyone zealous a proper demonstration of it the stream is taken by ecam right I'm just a guest so I'm just basically logged in on the browser so I've just got my browser window and that's what I'm sharing on YouTube I think what we need to do is actually do a proper thing where I actually do my stream through zealous it's probably a better way to demo it now I can't hear anything cool I think with that it might be a good idea to just go back to the I'm not hearing Greg at all now so I think what I'll do is I will drop out of this one and then go back to the regular stream and then we'll organize a proper actual demo because I'm actually doing it justice here okay I should drop out of this for now just come out of there and get back to my regular thing I've got this extra overlay don't need that one that was a very bad demonstration on my part of zealous.app what we'll have to do is arrange the next live stream so I'll just take this little zealous thing down as well and with that I think I'm more or less going to wrap it up because it's coming up to half past six in the morning here hey you're back, it looks a great platform though that does and I love the idea of it having the clubhouse style where you've got people that are in as the audience and then you can just bring people up it makes it a lot easier to add people in to join link and things like that so yeah we'll have to arrange a proper demo because that was a very very I felt like there was so many different things going on there me just sharing the screen and then also my audio normally like when I would be on zoom I would share my e-cam live audio into the zoom call or whatever but obviously with something like that then it would be feeding, I haven't set up loopback for safari so that basically the audio that was coming through from zealous wasn't going back into zealous because then you'd just get a horrible echo but yeah we'll have to spend a little bit more time with it and have a proper play around with it and it was it was a Xerox of a Xerox cool well with that I think I am just going to quickly mention again just before I go if you found any benefit in any of the videos that I've created on this channel then the best way to show your support is to head over to takeonetech.io and support our ride so it's me Greg Matt and we've got loads of other great people in our little team as well so Keith Pelzer Indy Delgado and Tom Buck obviously so yeah head over to takeonetech.io if you'd like to support us riding for kids cancer in the month of September but with that I am going to sign out and look forward to seeing you all next week or if not before sure I'll see you all around the internet somewhere other in the meantime and yeah have an absolutely wonderful day thanks for the demo Greg and yeah we'll definitely do it justice and thanks to everyone else who stopped by great to see you all I feel like I haven't caught up with all of the comments today I'll just put a couple up random ones yeah we're hot great and they're all hot I think those are the most important ones so yeah I'll sign up for now and I've lost my train of thought with my outro now I've moved everything around here you go I'll put this one up so have a great day and I'll catch you all later that was quite a random livestream that was see you next time


I know it's probably been a long day you guys have been going around the clock and so I appreciate what everyone's doing for the conference. It's exciting to hear all the presentations and this particular study is a study of COVID-19 and OER. I'll talk a little bit about its origins, but I was told one thing is I should introduce myself. So who is Cathy? I live in California. I have a family with two grown sons. Those of you with young children in the COVID period teaching at home and juggling everything. Just, you know, and people who are teachers on the ground just kudos all around. It's a hard, hard period. We have a dog, Oreo, who I love to hike with. So I spend time with him and percolate on all things open and also along my beach walks. Those of you who know me know I love the beach. And my history in open comes from my early days at the ULIT foundation where I was the program officer who launched the original field of open education resources. So exciting to see how it's all grown. I became CEO of Creative Commons. I am now on the board of Open Ed Global. So I'm delighted to be in that position and to participate. And I have a, I've started my own consulting firm and executive coaching firm and I do that and do kind of a shared portfolio on that where I work with organizations and philanthropy around open but other innovations as well. So that's who I am. So this question actually started with a conversation with the ULIT foundation with Kent McGuire. And here we have this period of natural forced experimentation with COVID. What can we learn from this period of change? And what can we learn about OER and where teachers are gravitating towards and where students at home are gravitating? Can they send some signals to us so we can help understand a little bit better about the future and then shift our strategy perhaps to meet that future. So my role here was to really think about that and to see where people were gravitating towards what was, what was the quickest accelerants. And I start with the slide because I know, you know, we know the change, the pace of change in education is slow, either higher ed or K-12, it's just, you know, that's just human. All of us have a hard time changing. We have a forced accelerant, which is the virus. But then we also are forced to technology and we've all seen that lots of conversations happening here, but that forces an exponential change. And so what we've seen now in this past about eight month period is, you know, a five to seven year shift in the rapid adaptation to technology, just much faster than we ever expected. But one of the things I really want to call out, and I know this has been called out in the open education space, but we need to call it out to the world, is that emergency remote education. And I don't know if you can see on the left hand side, let me shift over a little bit. It is not the same as distance education or online learning. So, you know, when people are saying now distance education doesn't work or online learning doesn't work, it's not true. What's really difficult is this an emergency remote education. And so I think we have to continue to call that out for people and this particular journal article that came out early. A lot of OER researchers contribute to it across the world, there were over 31 countries who were involved really called this out and I think this is really important. The other thing I just like to say about this is, you know, the open university who I learned so much from in the early days of open education. And I know Asha was calling out what the open universities around the world have been doing. You know, they've been studying distance education online learning just like we've all been studying OER and open pedagogy and we're not there so it takes time. It takes time to do it well and we have to continue to remind people about that. Okay, let's see. We're kind of in this whole period of, you know, the virus happening then we had the, the protests, the just come to the surface, completely needed in society, particularly here in the United States but we saw the support all around the world and we know these issues everywhere. And these issues of black life matter about social justice about inequity about systemic structural racism. And so I think we've got the intersection of these two points which are really powerful with openness. And so this is an opportunity that I think we could obviously not have imagined. Having said that there's huge divides right when we talk about technology, you know, never will be the panacea we have broadband divides we have device divides we have access divides we have culturally relevant content divides we have materials and home language divides, and we have walled garden divides and OER can't solve all of that but it can address a lot of it. And this picture on the left is quite striking it's a two young children outside of Taco Bell here in California, supposedly one of the wealthier states in the nation in the United States, and they don't have access to Wi Fi and this is true across the United States and throughout the world and much deeper and systemic ways. So here you OER is uniquely positioned and I say in principle, but not yet in practice to overcome these divides right. We're not there we are accessible, we need a lot more BIPOC develop relevant content, we need materials and home language, not only translated but culturally relevant we just haven't invested in this we've kind of getting been getting the field off the ground. And this is our next segment that we really need to continue to push on and we are doesn't have paywalls you know open is not partially open or restricted open sometimes call it. It really is when there is no paywalls and everyone can access. So, my question here is what have we learned. And I wanted to actually throw this out so we get a little bit of a conversation going we're at the end of the day, you know what have you learned about we are in this moment of time and I wonder if we can just put a few comments in the chat just to drop a sentence in about what you've learned about we are in this moment in time you think that is particularly unique. And I don't know if I can see the chat right now. So maybe someone can help me see what you're seeing in the chat. If you can back out of your presentation, you should be able to see it. Okay. And we'll help monitor as well. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Right now, you guys can just chime in chime in. I don't know about that. Okay, perfect. Yeah. Amanda, Amanda Collage is telling us that she is saying yes 100% in support, as well as Christina and one more. But I will say that I what I have learned. Honestly, I think that a lot of people are seeing hope through all we are. It's like there's a sense of hope. That's how well we can find a way out. But again going back to what you were saying, people trying to find the every answer there. Well, it's not exactly possible but we can address many of the issues. That's right. I think maybe when I was sharing I will you can briefly see you or if anybody else wants to unmute themselves, please go ahead. We're not that big a group. And Stephen is saying convincing colleagues to make the change convincing challenge is challenging, but this might be the moment. Right. Right. Alexandra also sharing we are access to knowledge for all. Mm hmm. Okay, well let's just keep going and see how far we get here. So thank you and you know I'm interested in Marcel I'd love to have a conversation like where are they seeing hope and why is the hope here now and right these are all the Yeah, what was it before and Stephen you know just the challenge of human change right how hard it is to pick up new practices we all know that. So these are some of the leadership lessons I learned and I think these are leadership lessons for higher education for quite K 12 institutions and also for nonprofits who are working in the OER space or for profits working in the OER space. So what we've learned about those organizations that have actually accelerated during this period or not only survive but thrived is that they really anchored on the values and they continue to clearly share out their value proposition. And they were always there, but now people began to understand them in a much different way during the time of this pandemic.  They're building ahead of the curve right and so this is one of the challenges for open and we've always been building ahead of the curve. And it takes a while for people to catch up but we need to continue to because when the moment in time happens is an opportunity for that transition. One part of organizations that have survived open ed global is a great example like it's a low level infrastructure right everyone works from home they distributed around the world truly global. campuses who that are traditional do have that heavy burden of infrastructure which is very expensive and it's going to be very difficult during this time of transition and budget cuts that we're going to see across the world with respect to education. And so how do we think about maybe a lower level of infrastructure because I do believe we all still need to meet I hope we all get to meet at the conference again soon but you know we need a lower level. And we have to optimize this scenario planning I think this has taught us more than anything else, the world changes quickly and we have to follow it pretty quickly as well. So I just want to call out two models that I thought were really interesting as I look through kind of these case studies of what I found. NERVA is a kind of an alternative high higher education model, still quite small here in the United States, but essentially it's a four year program where students travel around the world and learn a set of skills and competencies tied to higher education. They'll have a semester in Brazil one in Japan somewhere in Europe. They become global citizens. It's a very low level of infrastructure for the organization, because they just rent out space for the students. They have a uniquely built tool that they use for their content and learning. That is technology based that they've developed on their own. It's not necessarily open so this isn't an open model but I think this is part of the future that we're seeing we will see. And the, so the students can learn anywhere so even though the students now have had to rapidly move home in most cases some could stay if they chose in whatever country they were at that time. Learning didn't change. It was really just the cultural aspect and the cultural aspect is so important and I see Christina nodding because we all know she was going to travel around the world except everything happened. You know, is so much particularly for you know a young adult particularly at age what an opportunity and also very low cost because they don't have a lot of infrastructure some cost. What's interesting about this is they now quickly brokered a partnership with Paul Quinn College and historically black college here in the United States. The president said you know we've got to figure out a solution. My kids can't get to campus we don't have great technology. What are we going to do this is going to last for even longer and quickly very quickly they put together this project and they have this urban scholars program that's launching this fall. And I think it's a great example. The Paul Quinn students will not be traveling around the world they'll be doing projects in their local community they don't actually have to be in the community a lot they'll have to be in some and I'm sure they'll do it in a safe way. But they're actually working on real life problems in their community and so I think these are beginning to be some examples of what we can imagine for the future. In school age learning models is two particular programs that just call out when you kind of think about a systemic level who who have just you know the numbers have taken off so the first one up top is called common lit. Common lit typically has about 35 teachers sign up. I don't know if it's a day or a week. During the March of 2020 they had 35,000 teachers signing up per day. Right. And what and what I like about this this is a reading program and it has tried gets a lot of public domain content it also gets authors permission to use really relevant and exciting materials. It's a platform where the kids can engage so they can comment people can comment on the comments you know it has that interactivity. So it isn't just a static learning tour on the phone or whatever it might be. And I think this is part of the future particularly in school age learning because this model follows the student whether they're in school or out and for this next year or 12 months or six months whatever maybe we don't know where people are going to be. In the future we're going to have new ways of learning. The other one on the bottom is Zern Z E a R N and they have really taken off as well. They're focused on teaching programs created by teachers. This is around math literacy. They push code every Thursday. So these again are not static they're doing a B testing every week. They're understanding how students are learning materials what content could work better for me visa V Marcello or Steven who has prior knowledge. How can we help the kids catch up. And what they do is they have some of the content is open not all of it yet so again they're beginning to create an open model. But what I like about this is this is also something that can be in school. It can be at home and they create a dashboard for districts they try to work particularly with some struggling districts. And they are learning a lot about what's working for them. Districts don't always have real time information and this gives them real time information so for the teachers this can be really really valuable. I think one of the big pieces that we've learned is that home is now normalized as a place of work and learning. This is this is the big change. And if we think we're all going to go back to kind of life is usual. I think we'd be will be surprised. I mean our lives have changed dramatically. We're not out of this at least through 2021 2022 by the time we're all vaccinated and you know business travel everything will change. This particular author just released this book in October he's an epidemiologist he's also like a sociology. It's called Apollo's arrow and it's really great about profound profound and enduring impact on the way we live and I think we have to be ready for this and education and we have to be ready and thinking about this with respect to opportunities for open education. So what will learning experiences look like moving forward. There will be multiple pathways again we're not there yet and we've been talking about this for some time but I think we're beginning to see more and more of this we see students and higher education 17% you know not enrolling like we expected this fall that they're trying new routes they're trying new things. They're going to try. There's going to be a lot of flexible and permeable boundaries so I think the institution and I'm not saying about the school aid but more of the higher education have to be a little bit more permeable and we're beginning to see some of the institutions try this more and more something happens from cradle to grave we knew this was going to be needed in any case we don't necessarily need four years all at a time although it's kind of nice if you can be one of the few privileged residential students or have that full time experience that we're not trying to put everything together. But that's only a very small percent of the population. So how do we think about the ongoing skills we need and when we will need them and here not only higher education is involved but also industry is participating as well. We're going to have alternative credentials there's a lot of badging and other work going on and also creating that badge that carries with you throughout your lifetime and it should be much more equitable access so I see where we are on time. I just want to call this out this is a great slide has been created about a year or two ago like this is exactly what we've been talking about so we're moving in that direction right pedagogical practices of participatory the network this peer learning this knowledge creation is empowerment. You know students will be in physical spaces they'll be in online spaces and they'll be an open online spaces and we can begin to see more and more and we should begin to shift more into that as well. So here I see we have a few minutes left. What I'd like to say is what do you anticipate in the future for teaching and learning and we are and you know what do you see that given your vantage point we're all sitting in different parts of this ecosystem. What do you see as kind of like the big the big change that you anticipate going forward and you can add it to the chat or just feel free I guess to unmute and chime in. Exactly. Thank you Kathy thank you and yes I would encourage everyone to just please unmute if you want to make a comment. It's easier than the chat and and yes we are going a little bit on time but nobody else is using their room so if everyone's okay we can go over a few minutes. Can you see the chat now, Kathy. I can yeah. Well they were a couple of questions there. I'll be them. Well people. I see I see a master. Okay so how to scale it up students traveling. That that's true. So what was interesting to me about that example is like yeah wouldn't that be sweet everyone gets to travel to like all these different cities and have this great learning platform and small cohorts in different cities. No, not everyone's going to but what's interesting to me is the Paul Quinn model is less expensive and home base so they're experimenting now on how not to have to travel out of your community, but to make meaningful learning experiences so I think what they're beginning to do is more fun their home model while beginning to focus more on the equity issues overall. And just as you were saying just the fact that these opportunities are arising it's it's just magnificent. Oh sorry Kathy I have a question. I'm just wondering from what you see. How do you, you know like that this is what's so fascinating about the pandemic for myself when I think about it is the word global. The idea of connected and how, how that will shift what we think about this shared experience at a global level. And can you give any comment about what you think that means for we are. Yeah, so I think we've I've always thought about we are and we had a new origins to think about we are as a complex adaptive system where you have all these local nodes but the nodes are connected. And I think we're we see that in a lot of projects we see that with creative commons we see that with open at global right they have regional capacity the beginning to develop but yet they, the regions, the region the regions connect to a larger hub and I think when we think of global yes there's opportunities for us to just direct with other people across the globe. But I think a lot of the connectivity will happen more in your local community and then your local communities connecting to other communities in ways that we've begun to experiment with but I think there's still relatively small. So, I think that when you think about the network and the peer learning, given if you have the technology given you have the capacity to connect you'll see it in these kind of stepped ways. And periodically you see these great examples that are always called out music or something else where kids are finding each other across the globe and developing some really interesting programs. But global is a little bit of a you know it's like innovative it's like one of those words right like it's, what does it really mean and what does it really mean in practice. Yeah, and who's included really in global. That's right. That's right. And another comment that tennis was making that I find interesting is, I don't know if you want to address it I'll just read it. Oh we are at this time has surfaced a digital divide for her, which I think it's also true. So I yeah the digital divide is so true. And until that problem is solved. We won't be able to equalize access. Interestingly at the beginning of the field of oh yeah we actually made a concerted decision not to focus on like bandwidth and devices because you let as an organization at that time could only do so much, and we have to rely on governments and other institutions to address that I would say that California be an example I spent some time participating and now a series of conversation with funders focusing just on this digital divide issue. What happens is a lot of organizations don't focus on it as a primary strategy is more of a secondary strategy. And so the primary strategy doesn't get addressed. I said, government, you know foundations can't build the infrastructure in the bandwidth for fiber and 5g. There is money in the US coming out of Congress but it's very rural situated and there's been lots of calls about how this is really equitable, because a lot of low income people of color live in the cities, and the money is going out to rural so then you're getting this tension and divide among those who need the limited resources so this is absolutely a core infrastructure problem that 20 years later we're having the same conversation. There's still people who are not fully connected we have more solutions but we're not there yet. Absolutely. Thank you Kathy thank you very much. I don't know if we want to address one more question I know that several of you were a little bit over like five minutes but if we can. Alexandra you were saying school scientists working together in Brazilian Europe. And also. Oh, but these are comments you can read the comments later. Okay, so does anybody else have a question for Kathy. It's been a long day Kathy. This is amazing I think it's a wonderful way of closing the day with trying to tie everything in the situation that we are all living and it's interesting how the perception of everybody of this community that is global going again with a global word of how each of us have a different perception depending on the location that we're in. Thank you for addressing this and I will share actually to the entire group because I know that many several questions can pop up later. So I'll share the link to the OEG connect area that you will have this presentation and if any questions pop up later, they can contact you there. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you so much for this wonderful presentation. Thank you. Take care everyone.


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Let's take a look at this one. It's been a while since I looked at horses, but I did some research just for a refresher. And the main things, a couple things that stand out just right off the bat, then it would be the amount of left to right sway and its butt and especially in its head. And probably how straight those legs are in terms of having no arcs. It could be slightly more inwards. Just to make it a bit messier and this bit less, it feels a bit too default in how straight they are. Some more organic offsets and just be a bit more, yeah just less default in its posing. The main thing though, I'll be careful, it seems like your butt and your chest are going up at the same time.  But then on that passing what I would do is probably delay this by a frame or two or two frames.  But what happens on the plan is that it actually goes down. Since you are spread out, it's gonna lower the chest. So when this goes up, this goes down and then rhythm-wise the head will go up pretty much at the same time as your butt and it all seems a bit offset. That's one of the things I would watch out for. Then I would probably also reduce the height and watch out just quickly. If this is your ground plane, it seems like your hoof is going through the ground plane. But you could probably, let's see here, let's check. So if I go frame by frame here, yeah probably by now you could rotate that hoof further back a bit more curvature. I wouldn't go as high as it looks like it's almost like a dog. A dog after it poops, it kind of puts his legs back and shuffles the ground kind of high whatever they're doing there to hide or clean up their their business. But this feels a bit too straight so I would lower it a little bit and then overall rotate the hoof back a bit more. And then make sure that when you get to here, it snaps a bit more forward. It's almost like a cat where it has that lazy hoof where it's our leg paw. It's not going off the ground as much but then by now it will be a full straight and that's a tricky thing about animating horses in CG. You want that full extension. It's really always locking the leg so even this bend here, I would keep it as straight as you can. Same thing here, this goes really way up so at least half that. The same thing with the back ones, just a bit lower. Same thing here, watch out for your your wiggle knees. And then if I look at the spacing, it seems like you got moments of pauses here. Like your feet have to go back if that's your graphite or they're in a linear way like they plant and then they go back all in the same linear timing then get off the ground. It's going to be the same distance as this travels forward and right now you're having paws there. You can see probably that's why I also motivate some of this here.  If the timing of it when the head bob happens will change. I do like how that looks but if you look again in the front view, that's a bit much. You can tone that way down. So I would start with that. I mean there's some you know bigger changes that gonna happen because of all these offsets and you have to fix the legs and just you can start just adding a bit of a just a drop and a bit of a bounciness based on what this does.  It's not going to be something where it's like a cat or something. It's just going to droop and drop. You can start going into slight you know maybe you can bring the ears just slightly offset maybe slightly forward or one up and one way forward. Just start with that.   I would start with that and you can probably if you're going for more vanilla also as you offset this I would probably reduce the up and down like 20%. It's okay to kind of push it exaggerate but right now it's a bit bouncy. That's that. Alright? Thank you. Alright there's an email. You can sign up. You can start whenever you want. You can submit whatever you want. You get 16 submissions. Either way the like and subscribe would be awesome. Alright? Thank you.