Good afternoon everyone welcome to this special session on climate technology I'm very glad we have such a great audience with the business leaders and leaders in academia in government and This is a little surprising right after lunch I hope our discussion can keep everyone awake and climate technology is you know all technology that have to do with Addressing climate changes and in climate change. We have three areas a regulation We have a market and we have a technology for regulation part 2015 the world reached the Paris agreement and it is in the process of the implementation and it also has been going quite slow in many ways and We're hoping that process will goes go smoothly on Market as we know China last year the just announced the the the country wide nationwide carbon market the I do not I will discuss about this problem a little bit later and You know so far we have not really seen the significant Progress in many carbon markets worldwide and whether or not that is optimistic The we were not quite sure yet But a lot of people nowadays just really looking at the technology Because the technology is so far has brought in probably the biggest progress in addressing climate change We have seen clean energy development in many areas the the cost for clean energy has been consistently Lower the then that making the solar power wind power For example to be competitive against the many other to traditional conventional ways based on coal fired a power plant anyway, and with us today the Leaders all of them all four of them the business leaders and every one of them They are leading their company and in Innovation and meeting the challenges that we face today the I would like to first Invite Katie Then just give us quickly, you know what you think the greatest Challenges and the greatest opportunities that technology can bring us for addressing this climate change issues Thank you. So just for quick context For about five years up until earlier this year. I led a clean energy and climate team at Apple Did a lot of work here in China investing in utility scale Solar and wind and working with our manufacturing partners to transition to renewable energy I now live and work in Nairobi, Kenya and invest in off-grid energy applications and Climate technologies there very different. I so I hope I can sort of help speak to very different markets today But your question of greatest opportunities and greatest challenges I Think the greatest opportunities today are to scale up proven technologies that are commercial Carefully viable as fast as possible what you described of how Renewable energy technologies and storage have come down the cost curve electrified transport has come down the cost curve the Affordable sensors and the computing power to actually use IOT technologies for efficiency in energy and other natural resources Listen to this Katie if I may interrupt a little bit. You're working for Apple for five years in the last five years Now if you want you ask you to put your to put your money on so what kind of technology you would put ah Where would I where would I invest capital in different technologies interesting? Well first is The just clear business viability of a lot of existing renewable energy technologies in many You know context-specific, but you have grid parity in in many markets for solar and wind. I I think electrifying transport is hugely important, and it's what should be invested in I Guess are you are you saying as an investor if I put my invest in hat on? I think that the answer to that question gets to some of the challenges that I think is holding us back because at the end of the day, I don't think it is Technology limitations that are holding us back. I think it's some of the structural pieces around Climate technologies not having the right long-term policies in place not having the right Structured finance because a lot of climate technologies are high upfront capex low marginal capex whether that's solar and wind electric vehicles energy efficiency work and so You know we we need some of the right Pieces in place in order for climate technologies to scale up as fast as they need to because as an investor to be honest It's hard to get attractive returns out of climate technologies without policies that Level the playing field Economically for those. Okay. Let's I will get back to you on that Yeah, they see you know what kind of policy would need to make to incentivize the investors to put put their money On the climate technologies, let me just move to a Dimitri as a member of the Mannington Ward Royal DSM. I know your responsibility Has a lot to do with the innovation but also you have been meeting many programs within the company and I do understand that your company is now ranking very high on the adults The sustainability index just tell us with the Katie didn't mention any technology That your companies are doing it. Just let us know what kind of technology within that company That you think the most viable and the for the climate change challenges And then what you will put your money into that then I'll put my money in there, right? I will try to do my best. There we go I would like to to mention three categories which are important and I come with a specific example where you can put your money on We believe the addressing climate change cannot be done in splendid isolation You need to do that with suppliers You need to do that yourself and you need to do that with consumers customers down the value chain And interesting Katie work for Apple We just recently assigned an agreement with Apple on renewable energy where we've agreed We will go to 100% renewable energy as a whole as a company as a company as a supplier to Apple I think that's a part in the value chain. The second part is we ourselves have committed to reduce greenhouse gas reduction So I think it needs to be suppliers. It needs to be to improve our own footprint, but also work with customers Let me give you an example of one of the technologies we apply Which is linked to customers and it has to do with thinking circular Because addressing climate change is about changing the mindset from linear thinking You use raw materials you produce something you sell it and then its landfill or end of life We would like to re-examine that end of life concept into circular for instance in the US we have invested quite some money in using waste of corn stoves to make Biofuels second generation biofuels. So not the food or the corn itself, but the waste of it with otherwise would be Deleted and we make biofuels out of that. So circular thinking helps addressing climate change Sir circular thinking is important the biofuels all know it is a very important What about that that question that Katie just raised the in terms of the cost of benefit It is is a area that I should put my money in there right now But the interesting is that you need to start with innovation with trust And you will definitely see barriers along the way. How long should I trust you a long time? But also a short time. The interesting is we have measured what we call a co-plus. Those are innovations which add to a better alternative to the world Better in terms of footprint better in terms of efficiency And we have seen that these technologies and these products grow faster and have a very good result So people sometimes think it's either you're sustainable or you're profitable That's the wrong dimension. You can do both, but it needs some time to do that All right, we'll come back to that then now I move to Japan the from BP we all know BP represents the stand for British petroleum But not everyone know now you have a new name to be on petroleum and just tell us What does that mean beyond petroleum and what you do to address these concerns sometimes from people about petroleum? Thank you. Thank you for that good question BP yes, we are oil gas company and Used to be only oil gas, but the word Faces a due challenge on one hand. We are expecting 9.2 billion people by 24 day and Energy demand growth is still very high and we are talking about 25% growth in the next 27 years again So for that reason we have to demand provide Clean affordable energy to people on the other hand we have also challenging of reducing emissions So for BP we have decided and launched the new strategies First one is to produce more gas for example last year out of seven projects Six of them were gas projects and this year six projects again big project four of them is gas and that's the number one and we're going to Generate the more gas in our mix right now. It's a 50 gas 50 percent of oil and the second late by doing that By doing that it's a lighter. Yeah cleaner exactly the carbon. Yes. Yes, but that's not enough We are every year we invest now about half billion dollars in advancing low carbon solutions as well as identify new innovations for example in US our Wing power already provides enough power that is enough for 400,000 households in US in Brazil we use sugar king for biofuels and the bagasse the waste from the biofuels we use that to generate biomass for the power and In the United States we just acquired a company called the light source in the Participate in sort of percentage. This is the biggest solar power developer In Europe, so we are trying to build our solar power presence worldwide has already established lots of projects And in addition to solar power by renewables We have lots of other innovations of projects and I guess that have a lot to do with your investment What was the technology friend the you know, what's it's your your your best technology your silver bullet for you know I should put my money There's a lots of them right the way okay, and the first one we actually investing company called the Solidia Solidia is a company that actually can help the cement industry to cure the carbon dioxide and I just Have been told from my managing director responsible for the venturing business Myself and in the audience the who does not really know do not know much about that technology. How does that work? 7% of the carbon dioxide emission right now is from a cement industry. Okay, so in that process you have carbon dioxide Amid it and the Solidia they have innovated a good technology have a curing process to prevent Capture the carbon dioxide. So that's really a very exciting Project we are investing and another one is called the four-prong. We also invest that Company along with Kathy and other partners that is using waste to generate the bio jet Fuel for aviation now we all have heard about Light vehicles to use a EV but what about the four jet fuel so this company has identified a good technology That can convert Eventually the jet fuel using bio jet because 7% of carbon dioxide in the world now is emitted from a aviation field so this is another technology we are really excited about and Among lots of other things we are also looking at advanced the mobility area Did you can if I may a shopping the did few area? kind of scene How much of that you're doing from the bio? The biofuel technology right now. We're investing this technology We hope to bring that technology to different the countries and they Make that available. How soon you think the cost of for that kind of technology can can go down to be competitive Compared to the this oil-based I think you know sometimes when we are looking at all the innovation Talents from the worldwide from a solo from weighing from a bio seems like a cost of All this new technology Been decreasing very fast when we you know all invest and I hope cultivate and I hope to scale up Okay, with the new investment. I'm sure Let's hope that learning curve Quickly yeah, yeah, and we're good companies like BP. We just hope to invest in this company help to scale up And then hopefully we can make the technology more cost-effective. That's good. Thank you, Jay you're from a Place where is also home to another major oil companies, right? The I think was a Chevron over there, but your but your work is the Internet of Things and We haven't heard so much about Internet of Things But give us some concrete examples how this kind of technology can actually help us to reduce carbon emission to address climate to climate threat Before I go down with specific answer to that question, right? I'll address the opportunity space first a little bit I think today's era of Technology information technology is unbelievable the velocity of change in terms of compute Storage and networking technologies as they're evolving is huge. So information processing Context you know contextualizing this information Analyzing it creating insights all of that can lead to good proof of value for all of these solutions that are being talked about So information processing information Technology is the area where we are deploying a lot of solutions for like thousands of customers, but In terms of IOT specifically if you look at it, what does IOT enable? It lets you sense and detect and acquire a lot of information in real time close to real time Getting all that information storing it Processing it contextualizing it correlating it creating analytics and Insights out of it doing service lifecycle management that end-to-end Use cases are big in energy efficiency. I think most of our People who have very expensive assets very difficult to operate very costly to operate They look for operational efficiency and one aspect of it is pure energy efficiency. So 10 20 30 sometimes The adage goes what you measure is what you can manage So once you start measuring you have boatloads of information that you get and you can suddenly get the right dial to optimize So people are it's an experimentation process, right? The answers are not known ahead of time You go do an analytics workbench try out a few examples and then you start optimizing So that value realization what we have seen with customers is around energy efficiency. That's one vector Utilities are doing a good job in water management. We were talking earlier about Non-revenue water from source to consumption. How much gets wasted, right? Just simple sensors to detect active and passive ones to detect leakage You know saves a lot of natural resources. So areas of saving water improving from production distribution and consumption of energy various opportunities exist and You know depends on which dial you want to optimize We can do that. I buy this argument that the above measurement measurement is so important before for addressing this energy efficiency Issue but at the same time, you know some argue. This is a for an efficiency problem You also have a rebound effect, right? The your refrigerator used to be a very low efficiency in the past 30 years ago 20 years ago Now you have a much higher efficiency refrigerator, but you get a much bigger refrigerator in your home So how do we address that problem with this IoT? I think from an IoT standpoint the downside as I talked about the opportunity space I'll reflect on the downside one is there's a lot ton of noise ton of data that you acquire and you don't do much with it so Getting a very systems View a holistic view not optimizing one subsystem here or another subsystem there, but doing it holistically getting a systems engineering view of things which kind of You know up levels you to a more macro view of the world right macro view of at a home level You're not optimizing the refrigerator of the kitchen consumption of power for example in the refrigerator case you're looking at it holistically at the home level at the community level at the Distribution network level so at the various levels in which the systems can be designed You have to start measuring and managing it then what kind of internet of things taken out of your are you using on hold? Multiple I think the sensor technologies are diamond doesn't today In fact my biggest concern with the volume of sensors and data acquisition systems that have come up is about the e-waste That we are generating I think I churn out more waste at my own home with the number of switches that I have to replace every year Because they're not connecting to the new network for example the point is the Simplistically the architecture of an IOT solution Can be broken into three pieces the edge tier which is where all the sensors the data acquisition systems are all there You have the platform tier So there's a lot of lot of progress in the cloud-based ecosystem today I look at what I'm AWS is doing what Google is doing what Microsoft Azure is doing all of these cloud Technologies have suddenly made the platform tier very interesting and very cost effective and energy effective as well Then you have the analytics insights and all this enterprise tier. I think in this architecture You have to have an end-to-end view a more holistic view Technology is not the issue as Katie pointed out even Dimitri mentioned like this tons of technology available It's a how do you construct a nice system of systems a holistic view model it? Look at the use cases drive for outcomes drive for business value and then you know proof of value test it out try it out One insight may be worth a ton. I'm sure and then 250 others may not be worth Realizing any value then you drop them you go. It's still a very agile way of working We need Not just a single individual technology, but really we need a system in terms of system Also need a better governance system Katie you raised a very important question in order for Technology to be utilized in the real world. We really need the help from the public policy front and Here in China there has been a lot of government support for solar Technology for when to technology the last May May 31st the government decided to remove All the subsidies for a solar power generation and to generate is a lot of the complaints of course then what kind of Public policy you would like to see to support Where do you find the the shorted of supply of a good public policy for support for for sporting these kind of? technology technological innovation Yeah application, I guess first off there. I think there's a Lot we can learn from what China has done really well in the last you know five plus years around renewable energy incentives and policies and some Some lessons learned of things to do better. So a big piece of what public policy has to do is create Long-term consistency in a view of where we're going the US has struggled because we have enacted short-term renewable energy incentives that creates a real Sort of boom-and-bust cycle around say you know wind power development China has been good at creating long-term consistent policies and leveling the playing field you have to either Acknowledge that fossil fuel generation is being subsidized directly or indirectly And if you're not going to remove those advantages you have to create equalizing advantages for renewables The same time I I recognize and appreciate how difficult that is because there is the criticism of that the Renewable energy incentives in China were too Rich at times which doesn't foster the greatest efficiency for the technology and this is where I think Creating policies around climate technology is so difficult and I have great respect for the people who have to work on this to walk that fine line between Bring these technologies down the cost curve and sort of up up to scale while not Creating the wrong incentives. So for example here in China you have I think two and a half times as much solar and wind capacity than in the US which is incredible And most of it has been in the last few years But only 40% more generation from wind and solar which is saying that wind and solar in China is operating in a much lower Efficiency and much less productive assets and why is that and there are a number of reasons? So how do you make sure you're getting the scale while you're also getting the performance? This has less to do with technological Innovation here you have a large-scale curtailment problem The wind power Station, but you're really not really generating the power Right and that gets to actually a technology that wouldn't necessarily be thought of as climate technology, but Is smart grids? I mean if you really want to decarbonize energy systems you need Incredibly agile and intelligent grids that move power You know high-voltage lines that move power across using IoT technology That can immediately respond to to what's happening in the grid That's the only way you can really get to the you know 65% renewable Grids we say we need in order to sort of meet the Paris climate accord with the existing technology right now We have devolved it in in China US Europe and so on so forth and Now I know you have been working in Africa. Yeah, and a huge continent huge opportunities over there if you are going to bring these technologies To Africa to address this climate of resilience Problem the climate mitigation problem. What kind of technology we should look at sure to bring this these technologies to them So first off I should say, you know, I'm based in Kenya and one cool statistic is last year 77% of Kenya's power generation was renewable mostly hydro and geothermal. So And I think there are a lot of examples of that in different parts of the continent. So We have the opportunity to keep countries like Kenya on a on a low carbon path While we need to very quickly respond to the sort of inequality and lack of access that people have a A couple things that I see a cross-up there in Africa 600 million people don't have access to modern electricity And that needs to be addressed as soon as possible and a lot of analysis shows that a 200-300 million of that 600 should be reached through grid extension. That's the most cost-effective way, but another You know, three to four hundred are best reached through Decentralized energy systems, and I think one of the most interesting but still economically challenging is our mini grids, and I think that's where we may see the greatest Adoption of mini grid technology solar plus storage You know at rapid scale with the right policy and center very helpful. Thank you I want to shift gear a little bit Dimitri, I know your company is particularly your your president CEO play very important role in carbon financing worldwide and Europe of course has been leading in carbon market and according to the theory that the carbon market can promote technological innovation and application So looking at your own company What do you see the the EU ETS? System this the emission trading system Actually helping your company Meeting that goal. Yeah, right. I think it's it's the key question and thank you for that And that's also why I think governments should play an important role To your question to Katie and I would like to to re-emphasize that it is it is producers like us It is consumers like all of us And I think we as its consumers can push it even further to buy products which are climate friendly But certainly also governments in a carbon price because the issue is today We live in a world where the economic system is The mainstream and it means that if you make profit you do well We as a company think that is an old system thinking You need to think about people planet profit You need to think about a holistic view on what you deliver to the world and we feel that Waste should have a price. I'll come back to that on carbon today 9% of What we produce is circular so it's being reused in other words 91% is either land-filled incinerated or leaked some out in this world That is that is unacceptable and has to change and therefore there needs to be a system change on how we think about our economic value, so Carbon price is a small step to that and carbon price started in several countries and Very happy to see after the COP 21. There's a sort of a mutual agreement that is the way forward And the interesting is that we started in Europe With the carbon price. We're about 1300 companies about 88 countries Covering about 20% of all carbon emissions is covered today via carbon price It started also in Europe with a price around six euros, so six dollars and Today it is above 20 and If it's above 20 and it's creeping into the 40 50 region It will have an impact on economic thinking Because then basically you don't assume ways to be zero or a carbon emission to be zero It has a price and that will also favor innovation Climate-friendly technologies and I think we need end-end-end so we need push from the government We need to push from the consumers give us an example. Give us an example. You know how that carbon pricing the Based on the carbon market system particularly the EU ETF actually made your business decision Adjusted for for technological innovation in DSM Maybe maybe two things one on the strategy. It impacts quite a bit what we do at DSM and also on the product So let me start with a strategy DSM is an old company exists 117 years and we reinvent ourselves based on what we see in the market Our recently launched strategy in June is called purpose-led performance driven around three Business domains nutrition and health Resources and circularity in climate and energy. So all innovation is around these three circles That leads to innovation in certain fields of climate and energy. I'll give you an example The ones we currently are working on is improving the solar efficiency We're talking about data big data intelligence. The interesting is if you capture one and a half hour of Sun a day Throughout the year. It's enough for a year's energy The problem is that the efficiency of solar panels is not good enough So we develop coatings to improve the uptake and the reception of Sun on solar cells If there will be a carbon price of 50 to 100 euros a ton Then it's not only economically viable. It's one of the best products. We ever developed So even without a carbon price it helps but the transition even without the subsidies on solar panels It will help with a carbon price. So you're not only depending on subsidizing the solar energy You're helping your customers, but do you get return you get the adequate return from that practice? The interesting on solar panels is because you innovate you can also install new business models So we also working on business models where we basically improve the efficiency of our customers We will give them the coating for free and then we earn the money back on the higher efficiency So we have an agreement with the customer and say hey, you don't believe on the higher efficiency We'll apply the coating and we share our efficiency improvement 50 50 a fantastic model great I'm gonna show me and I'm going to ask the same question to you to very different type of a companies, right? I say all in the gas company started in Europe and How do you feel your company feel the this pressure from that the carbon market particularly then you ETS We're talking about how much of that the the pressure is actually Pushing the company BP towards innovation I would say actually BP has been advocate for carbon price for years So it's not the pressure. It's our own initiative as well. And we think Corporation I agree with the military government the consumer producer all of us have a Responsibility to make sure we actually continuously reduce the carbon footprint So in BP we have actually Energized the entire workforce all the business 70,000 people or more to use a Rick framework Rick stands for reduce improve create IC so we want to reduce our footprint for example committed to reduce a 3.5 million tons carbon dioxide emission by 2025 and we commit to grow our business, but don't increase the net carbon dioxide Emission by 2025 based on 2015 and We lead the industry to say we want to meet meeting Intensity to less than 0.2 percent for example We want to do that because it's our strategy to have advanced solutions improve for example The PTA technology PTA is a key raw material for our fiber fabrics, etc Our technology will improve in such way that common dioxide emission is 65% lower than other technology as example and when you improve our for example the emission from The few transportation few I mentioned a little bit more Before about the biofuel few etc. And then we also use bio synthetic Lubricants for example and working on the additives to ensure we can improve that as well Let me just further after this question according to the Paris agreement The world is going to Decerminize the economy by the middle of this century. It's just look at this not too too far from I know many of us sitting here will see the end of fossil fuel age and How how would a company like yours? to adjust To this new target set, you know by the world and for the world Yeah, I think you know if we can grow business without growing carbon dioxide Identify all the solutions. That's a really good thing. Do you know a strategy? Yes? Yes. Yes, we all that that work Yeah, so so beyond petroleum. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and let me give you example The if I just may talk about the PTA we not only created good PTA technology and processes We also created a product called PTA where we help consumers to use our product in a carbon neutral footprint by You know creating some other kind of carbon credits for example We just invest announced the investment with the helium a forestry company in China We will increase the forest footprint so that we can reduce the carbon footprint Once you make your commitment says well, I want to grow business but without Increasing that there's lots of ideas and innovations come but that's more of on the site line The you know into a corporate so for its responsibility area rather than a mainstream business strategy though Well mean business strategy. I mentioned about Switching to more gas as one example. Okay, and looking at our Meething emission for example how the fugitive emission can be reducing our operations and 3.5 million tons of carbon dioxide reduction net reduction by 2025 All these are the commitments that you have to identify in lots of areas energy efficiency Jay was talking about we are looking at all the options for modernizing our Operations as well as digitalizing so that we can be efficient and lots of things need to be taken natural gas That's a steel. Well, first of all, I still part of the fossil fuel and it's considered to be a bridge field And that's still you know will have to be faced out at some point, right? Yeah, right? Yeah, I think that's why You know, I mentioned about us investing half billion dollars a year in looking at renewable energy wind solar bio bio fuel bio power bio jet and all these holistic solutions We're more toward about to renewable to new petroleum beyond gas Go toward this they're pretty soon I'm going to invite everyone from the audience for their comments and and the questions Katie You have a question. Well, I was just you know on the natural gas topic This is a really tricky one if we're talking about Kind of a low-carbon future because it is much it is lower carbon by many measures It is a cleaner fuel than than other fossil fuels But you build a natural gas plant and you've locked that power capacity in for decades So to this question of what are the technologies we should be investing in now I think there is an important debate and a healthy tension around Natural gas helps us get on a lower carbon pathway, and that's very positive especially for countries that don't have sufficient energy capacity today, but It's hard to call it a bridge fuel if it ends up being a few decades the bridge is a few decades long Right, we don't have that time So it's an important debate Thank you, Katie But as you want to come to Jay the you know the theme for this annual meeting this year is about the the force industrial revolution and also innovation innovative society in the economy and Speaking of measurement you just mentioned and measurement technology for say carbon dioxide concentration greenhouse gas the Concentration in the atmosphere the measurement just tell us the you know how this IOT Technology actually helped to advance the measurement capture the big picture, you know where we are we know we are much higher than 400 ppm part per million by volume in the atmosphere this is compared to 280 pre-industrial level and but we want to get accurate measurement of this everywhere in the world help us and even down to maybe to business level and also to the Household level measurement. What what what can we get from from this advancement in technology, right? So just to answer your question the sensor technologies themselves have gotten way advanced right in terms of the margin of error The sensitivity levels calibration of those sensor technologies has reached a point where you can get good good data points Now how does information flow and whose sensors provide these information points? That is another big challenge today you we talked about gaps Opportunities are there but the gaps are that information flow across the world at different places different organizations data flow Information flow is still very constrained access and transparency is still very constrained. You don't have Visibility on a timely so that you can do interventions on a timely basis. You don't have access to that kind of Infrastructure so the while there is a significant hype around the IoT space where you know There's a lot of point of proof of value proof of concepts scale deployments happening It is still not at a level of maturity Where the volumes are significant that we have a global footprint which gives us accurate Seamless pieces of information so the center actually that is one of our motivations in joining the C4 IR in San Francisco The idea is that whatever reference solutions we build whatever implementation guides we put together that can be globally diffused Everybody in every part of the world gets it. I'm very happy to see the China Center Getting open today Japan is done India is done so across the world I think the the governance aspect the policy aspects of deploying these technologies needs to become more seamless I think we still have significant gaps there I did want to talk to one point that you had mentioned about efficiency of the wind farms Despite high levels of implementation volume the efficiencies are lower So in fact, you know, we did a lot of work around how these windmills actually operate and how you can optimize You can if you squeeze out five seven ten percent per windmill But now you look at a larger construct of larger system of Larger collection of windmills right how they operate together as one farm Yeah, how they operate across so the system of systems principle right applying those And leveraging them to optimize at a much higher level. There's still ways to go I think while I'm all excited about the technology aspect saying compute storage network technologies are amazingly good now It continues to go down this price performance value chain Increase performance lower price But we still have a lot of ways to go great I would like to invite the first round of questions and comments from our audience and for those of you, please identify yourself first and Put it in a very straightforward way. Yeah, please Hi there. My name is dr. Fiona Beck from the Australian National University. I'm one of the young scientists community I'm interested in what the panel thinks about the About the the possibility of a hydrogen economy for deep decarbonization and there has been several national and from Japan and Australia and international reports about the unique probability possibilities right now about The emergence of a hydrogen economy. Thank you very much a prospect of a hydrogen technology Let me just collect a few more questions before I move on right gentlemen over there. Peace Hi, my name is Jake. Okay, Chico. I follow you. I'm a global shaper with the abou jahal I'm Just gonna make reference to the gospel about the Paris Agreement trying to decarbonize the world by the mid of the century It's not something many African states would say amen to because it doesn't really make a business case for them And the options are quite limited because in terms of producing these technologies that are green technologies We don't really have to resource to produce them so I wanted to ask if you thought about Technology transfer and how you think that might work because with the fourth industrial evolution These technologies are just incrementally changing and advancing and we just can't catch up and we can't make money from these technologies We don't produce them. What do you think is the solution? And I know Kenya is a good success case But Nigeria is quite different because you know, I'm sure you know the peculiarities about my country Well, what do you think would be the solution for these states who actually want to do something about like? Climate change, but none of these things are working for us For you Katie because he was looking at you. Yes, gentlemen over there, please I'm Vinit Mittal from India. We had set up first large grid connected solar system in India way back in 2010 When we got the tariff of 32 us since Per kilowatt hour and yesterday we won a 500 megawatt project at three and a half cents and we are not losing money and There's no government incentive So what China and Germany have done over last eight years Is to innovate and bring down because of the scalability and advancement in technology the cost has come down drastically and If private sector cooperate like say Apple or Google they start buying energy directly from players like us in Africa and India and Government doesn't get bullied by the thermal power producers because now we are cheaper than them so in India the thermal power is close to nine to ten cents and on the Exchange yesterday it was sold for 30 cents So if thermal powers are becoming less competitive despite all the subsidies whereas solar and winds are becoming more competitive in India and in Africa also in three countries We have we are doing projects at almost 40% of their conventional power cost with the storage so it is becoming It's becoming more competitive more reliable and you can Take out the unreliability part with the batteries and innovation Thank you. Thank you. I probably leave that question to the two gentlemen over here I have the last question for the first round, please right No, I'm my line held are one of the tech pioneers of the world economic forum We produce electricity with living plants as a new sustainable energy source So listening to the discussion and like framing it in the fourth industrial revolution I'm missing a bit of courage So you're telling like we're investing half a billion every year into renewables That's less than one and a half percent of your total profit. Sorry to say but so I'm sort of I would like to challenge all of you to come up with some like really bold ideas Like what are the really big things that we could do like to turn this around? I hear you say well, we should invest in scaling up like existing Technologies like stuff that has been proven. So what about the stuff that's coming if we for example? Don't want to go through gas to renewables But we want to skip gas and do like renewables at this at once which would be Obviously better for the environment. So what could we do? Can you come up with some really like challenging ideas bold ideas that we well, that will all of us make us happy Well, thank you very much. I think that's a terrific question. I want to our Speakers to address that and everyone everyone in the audience who would like to take on that challenge Please just just go ahead. Let's let's just Take care of the first round of question Katie. Let's start from you over here, right? You have particularity You know, I'll take the question that I think was directed my way. Anyway, I think he raised a really good point and this is one of the important sort of ethical Discussions to be had around kind of the whole the entire movement towards a low-carbon Economy when you have a number of emerging markets that haven't yet fully electrified their countries and have major energy scarcity issues But I think to to what? the gentleman here the solar developer in India said I Think it's sometimes a false trade-off to say that these technologies are more expensive because in Nigeria today, I believe that something like two to four gigawatts of diesel generators get installed every year It's huge and that's a very expensive cost of generation. So if that's your benchmark There are tons of renewable technologies that are that are more compelling economically than fossil fuels It's I think it's more of an execution challenge than a pure economic benchmarking challenge But I I do think you raise a really important point around getting more of the Value-added services happening locally as opposed to just importing the technologies to the extent that we can be doing more local manufacturing of this kind of equipment and creating Sort of business opportunities locally. That's when it starts to really take off. Thank you Katie for that hydrogen question, can I Ask you shall be Just not only beyond fossil fuel should be on fuel itself, right? We're moving into a very very different area of energy So BP actually just published our new technology outlook and we try to look at all the Research papers results worked with academics as well as other Research institutes and we set together do some kind of outlook. It's all about the views, isn't it? and That view is with view the hydrogen fuel cell technology is going to be competitive by Middle of the century, that's what we predict of course it depends on lots of things, right? how much you put in and What is the technology breakthrough and the government to support among other things but we do view that could be a very? Sustainable competitive technology in the middle century, but if I may I also like to answer that question about How can we take a bold move? I've been in this industry for over 20 years and I really want to have a magic bullet But the funny thing is more I know about it and more I found it's so complex so difficult It's not just one magic bullet. It really needs to have Everybody in BP as well as everybody in the oil gas industry to work together to come up with a solution every each aspect and process consumers producers that's why Our CEO Bob Dudley has called You know turn oil gas companies together Form he is a chairman of OG CI oil gas climate Initiatives we want to work together to say what's the solution for the world to meet the Paris Agreement and To come up with a solution that can provide a heat Light mobility to people who want to have good living as well as the common dioxide issues So it's a journey and I'm glad we have made lots of progresses, but it's not one solution fits all It's just very very complex issues. Well, we just hope that journey is not too long Yeah, yes, please I want to build on on the request on on being a bit more bold Because it hurts a little bit, right? We're thinking Are we bold enough? It's defensive, but I think it's fair. It's a fair challenge And I think certainly here around the world can reform we should be challenging ourselves and and I was firstly thinking What if we are not bold don't worry because others outside our own establishment will be bold, right? So if we don't make it fine point and some of the cases I don't even think you should bank on the establishment because they will work Against new things because they have their own legacy assets, right exactly. I'm slightly more positive On what's happening over the last five years because we get acceleration and I will give you an area where DSM plays a role And that's an electrical vehicles We produce materials for electrical vehicles and we work with customers Which we didn't have two years ago. I Mean there are companies in China who didn't exist two years ago and have just launched a full electrical vehicle last week in March So these companies are really bold and I feel that we are bold to work together with these But it's a bit indirect, but so I get your point Let me think about it before becoming defensive, but it's a fair point I think we all need to be bold, but I'm also with them with your ping I don't believe it will be one technology will make it work. I think it will be multitude of technologies Working against a better future and the beauty is that after the COP 21 agreement in Paris We are on a highway with different technologies and different approaches with different speeds But at least we're heading into the same direction Well, you just mentioned that word acceleration the Actually, that is a key feature for this industrial and technological revolution We are talking about the good news is if you look at the major economies, you can see a accelerated transition from a high carbon Energy to a lower carbon carbon energy system for all major economies include the United States include it the China UK, you know Europe It's all have accelerated in the last a decade, which is a really good news the So Jay, would you like to the address that question just to mention, you know different countries have different stages then You know you guys talking about this probably state-of-the-art Technology, but still we need to look at the specific economic and the political social situation And when applying to this a technology in a holistic way From a capability standpoint, I think everybody around the world wants the very best of capabilities So you can't dump things down in terms of the value proposition in terms of the cost So I'm just talking about the grid the smart grid example you used Putting a small edge gateway that does analytics at the edge and figures out where to source the power from It's a simple algorithm running in a simple software container running in a little hardware at the edge at the consumption endpoint Right to just now creating one for US market creating one for Europe market for the Asian market South American market African market so again the pricing model the cost Involved in producing something like that to get consumed We cannot compromise on some of the quality capabilities that because people expect a good level of capability It's about how do you how do you build technology that is sustainable and globally deployable? so we have had significant challenges in that because a Product or a solution built for the US market may not sustain in some other markets But over over time what we have noticed in the last two three. That's the whole is in the last two three years There's more democratization of technology ingredients. There's more Availability and price performance value has gotten much much better So it's reaching a point at least in the last financial year that we had where some of these solutions are Very effective and at best you don't have to go through a massive proof of value return on investment Justification process to adopt some of these technologies But we still have challenges I think the price of compute storage and network will continue to go in a good direction So we will keep building these solutions with the center and kind of diffuse them globally It's it's interesting time. Yeah, let to be bold. Let me just ask the audience here, especially those of you Who have been working in this technology area? Those of you have young bright minds and Some terrific ideas. Yeah, I got this young bright minds over here. Tell us how you how you take this About being young. I'm not so sure but I'm a physicist at CERN And I want to give you an example of the difficulty of innovation CERN the yeah, tell us where it's that for Sorry, yeah CERN is the in the urban organization for nuclear research That's the place where we discovered the Higgs particle a few years ago And it's the place also where we invented the World Wide Web among other things and many other things But I want to say is that to give you an example of how difficult it is to Propose innovation if it doesn't have anything to do with wind or solar energies At CERN we have demonstrated technology that would allow to use thorium as a primary energy source And and make thorium a sustainable source of energy now nuclear energy nuclear industry, sorry does not like it So we since government listened to nuclear industry We don't get instant institutional funding and then private sector doesn't Like to invest in something that might take 10 to 15 years before they make money So how do you get out of this type of dilemma that? It doesn't work either way But we as physicists are convinced that this is certainly something that has to be to be studied you know the issue of Fossil fuel is so serious that I think you cannot exclude one direction of Research, especially when the basic technology has been already demonstrated Yeah, that's a very interesting comments the It's really hard to to look at you know beyond when and solar nowadays talking about clean energy And CERN you have a lot of innovation going on over there Perhaps just tell us a little bit more that the You know, what are the challenges as a scientist innovators you face For well, what would you like to see to facilitate your innovation? Well, I can give you an example for example. We have collaborators who have designed a Special accelerator that would produce a high power beam in a very compact way and in a very Cost effective way compared to other things that are developed for example in China There is one project also accelerator driven system which uses a linac that we have developed a cyclotron That would make this thing cost effective now we submitted you know proposal for funding to the European Union and You know, you know, you can guess what happens It's reviewed by at least one person from nuclear industry and they they just say no thanks. It's great But no thanks and as it is the difficulty we have we are facing so we Well, I I hope you understand the the difficulty but these technology has been demonstrated We've done experiments at CERN that Verified the basic concept of such systems and then all the components exist, you know in Sweden today Somebody's some people are building the European Neutron-spalation source. It's a beam of five megawatt with five megawatt beam you can With the system we propose make unit of a hundred to two hundred megawatt electric power For one billion euro of that order. I mean this is a rough estimate because you have not done the In this realization, but I mean these things are realistic. However, it doesn't seem to be Happening because we don't get any Help that. Thank you very much. I understand we don't have a lot of time left. Thank you very much for for reading the hand. I Probably just to go real quickly around The table here the you know now we are in the fourth Industrial revolution in 20 seconds. How are you prepared for that? I think I'll borrow the one-line statement be bold Be bold and test and try out. Don't hold back on innovation and Katie like you moved to Africa and Waiting for the or are not not waiting Preparing for the first revolution. Yeah, technology. I mean that's where I think there needs to be sort of an equitable Distribution of where the investments are going for climate technologies and energy infrastructure equity for everyone Thank you very much inclusive. All right. I'm a stubborn optimist. So I think we'll make it work Remember this room 10 years ago. There will be no smartphones. All right. Look how that changed the world So I'm a stubborn optimist. I think within 10 years from now. We're here. We see a complete different world a better world Thank you and BP. How are you prepared? I like the word of being bold as well and our CEO says we want to grow business But without growing come dioxide emissions by 2025 That's very very bold and we are more energized by ever to put our thoughts our efforts everyone's efforts to make sure we can Face the challenge providing the energy to people who need while reducing Commodals emissions being bold. Thank you very much that concluded this round of a discussion I want to thank all to all of you for your participation Apologies to all of you who have a lot of questions and comments and stay tuned come back next next year Thank you so much


The last is one day, I'm back in the pickup. I got home yesterday after work and I went to her and I said, I felt so weird driving the terrain. She looks at me, she's like, I felt so weird driving the pickup and it's cold. This truck takes a lot longer to heat up than her vehicle. And she's got such a short commute that by the time she gets to work it's not even warmed up, even if you like warm it up first.  Man, she doesn't have heated seats in here. There's heated seats in there. And I was just sitting in the lap of luxury. I was just thinking of myself, I'm not worthy of all this. Like satellite radio in the terrain, heated seats. Pioneer, I think it's a pioneer, is it a Bose sound systems? Just, it's the vehicle that she chose. She chose it. We went out and we bought a vehicle for her. And I got this vehicle when Britt and I first started dating. And I bought this truck for me. It was what I needed. I wanted a bit of a fancier Z71 or maybe even a high country, but nah, I got a Silverado Chevy Silverado work truck 1500. And it's all I need. I like it. It's simple, but I like it. So we switched back vehicles. I know we'd save money the other way, but you know what? Sometimes you just gotta take the hit to be comfortable. And I'm comfortable in this truck and she's comfortable in the terrain. So sometimes you just gotta take the hit, you know? So you can be comfortable and happy. You can't put a price on just happiness. I'm happiest driving my pickup. She's happiest driving her terrain. Costs a little bit more money, but it is what it is, okay? We're willing to take that sacrifice for our happiness. At least right now. We'll see, we're in a good place right now where that's okay, we can do that. And we got all of our savings set up for our IVF. So we're actually getting through, I think I've told you this already. We're going through with it two months earlier than we expected. We're very happy with that. We'll have everything set and ready to go. End of January, we're starting our first, we gotta go through a few courses and stuff.  So they've gotta make sure that she knows everything that's gonna happen, all of the procedures, all the stuff that has to happen to her and her body in order for this to work. And she's gotta be aware of it and consent to it. And like I said, my part's kind of enjoyable. I don't think they even ask for my consent. All I gotta do is drop the boys off when the eggs are ready. And I don't know, I would kind of like to be asked if I consent, but maybe I do have to sign a paper. I'm sure I do. I'm sure we both have to sign a paper saying that, hey, we give them permission to use my specimen and her specimen and fertilize them together to create a life. Isn't that amazing what they can do nowadays? Creating a life. And then they let it grow into about 100, 150 cells. And then they implant it to her uterus where hopefully it takes. And where those cells will keep duplicating and duplicating and duplicating and form a human baby. Isn't life amazing? I can't wait for this whole thing to take shape and for this whole journey we're about to take in. Like, I'm probably gonna get a little bit emotional. Not now, but once it actually gets going because we worked really hard and we surpassed our goals. We wanted to be ready by end of tax season. We thought we might use some of our tax return if we have a tax return coming this year and that. But it turns out we can use that for other debts and pay other debts with that. And we're all set, we did it on our own. And we're gonna do it. So January, we have a few appointments to go in for those consent appointments and acknowledgement appointments. I don't know what they are, we'll find out. And then I believe the actual procedures probably gonna take place in February. That's what we're hoping for, February, February. February, February. I can't English, February, February. Try to say that fast, February, February. I used to always call it February. It's not, it's February. Did you know that February was supposed to be the last day of the month? I mean, February was supposed to be the last month of the year. December was supposed to be the 10th month of the year. It would have made way more sense, right, to have the shortest month right at the end and then every four years you add a day on to the end of the year. But for some reason, I think it was the Romans that went around and messed with everything. They changed it. Topic for another vlog, topic for another vlog. All right, let's go hook up. I'm, if you can see through the dirty window there, I've got a roll tight flat behind me. Gotta go hook her up. Versus make sure it's empty. Just like yesterday, I don't wanna bring a loaded trailer up there and waste everybody's time. Ouch. Okay, just a little bit of cleanup to do yet, but that's okay, I'll do that before we leave. I can tell at the back there already that the back flap isn't correctly put in. I'll show you on the back when we get back there. I'll fix it. Oh, I can still smell the skunk. Oh man, that was on Friday already. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, it's four days. I wonder how long that skunk smell's gonna last. Hook up the air, hook up the lights. Here we go. Okay, just gonna go charge the trailer with air this time. I don't like to do things twice, but I don't have to. Oh, hear that already? Air leak, okay. That's why we do this. I'll fix it. That's why this one as well. All right, we'll try this again. Put a little spin on there. Problem solved. All right, let's roll these up first. Don't wanna forget that. Fix that, fix that. Tires full of air. Wunderbaugh. Okay, now back here. Signals are working. I forgot to check the brake lights off to do that in a second. Okay, back here you can tell. You see this whole side? It's not supposed to do that. I don't know what this thing's doing here, but that shouldn't be there either. What's going on, man? Okay, that is supposed to, see, it's all frozen in place now because it was, it's been out of place for so long. It's actually out of place now. Okay, gotta undo this side too. Oh, boy. See what I got? Why is this bar slid out this way a little bit? Let's do this side first. See, this little thing here has gotta be inside this rib here. On my video that I released yesterday that asked me about my open window. I very often have my window open even on the coldest days. And I do that for airflow in my cab. I like to have fresh air moving in the cab all the time. The heat is going as well, so it may seem a little funny. I got the heat going and a window open, but I find that's the perfect mixture of fresh air and warm air. Just something I've always done. My dad's always done it too. In his truck, he's always driven the old school trucks as well, and in his freight liner, he's got that little window right over here, right? That you can just push open a crack. He usually had that open all the time just to get fresh air in the cab. And no, it doesn't make you cold. At this time of year, like I was saying yesterday, I mean, my body is now pretty much climatized to the colder weather. And I don't even notice it anymore. Today's a pretty good day. It's minus 20 out today. And I'm feeling great. I mean, I didn't even need my jacket this morning. I just had my sweater. Feel great. I have my toucan to keep my ears warm, obviously, in my head and gloves to keep my hands warm and stuff, but our bodies get used to it. Our bodies are amazing machines. Like these things are amazing. I don't think we ever stopped really fully appreciated. It's like a completely 100% biodegradable living machine. For them in the truck, they're all going to Winchester. I think. Going to Winchester, Virginia. Oh, Winchester, Woodridge, Virginia, Franklin, Virginia, and Harrisonburg, Virginia. That's right around the area. I think we're my buddy Moses and Colleen live. Cole said, we got some stuff headed your way. Look out! From the cold Arctic North, I'm going to send all my cold air with it. Get ready for snow, Moses and Colleen. I'm not that mean of a guy, but if you don't mind, I won't send my cold weather down to Virginia. But if you don't mind, would you please send your warm Virginia air back? Just load it right on up in the trailer. Just close it up in there. Send it back to Manitoba. I really appreciate it. Let's quickly show you. Let's quickly take a look anyways. Just double check everything. Swell. And there you go. One, two, three, four. Going to Virginia. I'm expecting a load of warm summer air to be delivered back on the reload. Counting on you, Virginia. Don't let me down. What are those doing on the floor? They should actually be up here warming up. They're nice and toasty warm for when I need them next. Feels good. Feels good. Loaded up, tied down, double check, triple check. Let's swing into the convenience store here for a little bathroom break. Pull ourselves back out onto the highway and pull this thing back. So how about it, everybody? The daylight hours are getting longer again. How does that make you feel? Makes me feel really good. We're on our way to summer. It's officially winter time now, though. And that means we're in the final season before spring. Very exciting. Oh, I'm gonna be driving right into that sun too. I can't wait till the sun starts rising in the sky more again so that when I drive south it's not right in my eyes. That's as high as it gets. That is noon day. Guys, turning. Plugged this right away. It just started my pickup here. I don't like to idle the truck with my block heater plugged in. It's not really good for it. To here. That thing going. I can start that in the morning and pull my pickup keys off this big janitor ring that I got here. The heat crank's good. I don't have heated seats, but it's okay. My stuff and then we'll head back to the house. We'll do it all over again tomorrow. So anything to say, chef? You have been very clingy since I got home. It's almost like you think something's supposed to happen sooner than later. You know that something happens at 7.30, right? That's when we fill up your bowl. I can't say the word or he'll freak out. He's really hoping that that time in the evening is right now. No, Chevy, that's for my dinner. I'm just getting the stove ready. Britt worked, it's 5.30 to 8.30, I think today. So I got home at about, I think 5.40, 5.45. So just missed her. But she called me up, asked me about my day and I told her, have a good day. It's tough working opposite shifts sometimes, but you gotta work, work, work. So life's all about. All right, we all gotta contribute as much as we can. And the way it's supposed to work is the more efforts you put in, the more you get back out of it. I got the oven set here at 350 degrees. All of our, it's funny, because in Canada we do Celsius, right? But all of our stoves are in Fahrenheit for some reason. I guess, cause they all get made in the US or they all come through the US and they don't wanna spend the money to change it to Celsius or maybe I can change it. Maybe there's an option for that. But that's just standard. Cooking temperatures are in Fahrenheit in Canada. It's weird, right? And most people also use the temperature in their house as Fahrenheit. We use it in Celsius. So we usually have it at about 20 to 21 degrees Celsius in here and then we drop it down to 18 for night because we like it to be cold. I don't know what that is in Fahrenheit cause I've never had a thermostat in Fahrenheit before. But most Canadians will tell you that yeah, there's thermostat in their houses in Fahrenheit. But the temperature outside we know in Celsius. We're a strange group of people. That's why we do all the systems. We don't just learn one system. We learn all the systems in school. That's why when we go to the U.S. it's very little to adjust to. I'm not sure if they get taught about like other measurements and other systems in the U.S. From what I've heard, like I got a lot of friends in the U.S. and I love going to the U.S. Great countries, beautiful, beautiful. But it doesn't seem like in their schools they get taught a lot about the world outside their borders. I don't know, maybe you guys can fill me in on that. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, maybe they do. Maybe you just don't pay attention in that part of class, eh? We had to learn all about U.S. history and U.S. presidents and the U.S. Constitution and U.S. wars around the world in the past. And we also had to learn about the Canadian Constitution and the Canadian government system, the Canadian history and the Canadian wars. We had to learn all about that and we had to learn about the British as well, the British Empire and the British Commonwealth because we're still a Commonwealth member. So we had to learn all about Australia, New Zealand. There was South Africa in there for a while that I think that phased out pretty much right when I went into school because they're independent now. It's mostly Australian, New Zealand, Canada and the UK is what we focused on in schools. It seemed like, and the U.S. because they're right next door. I don't know, I'm getting off on a tangent. Why do I do these things? I'm tired. What was I doing? Oh yeah, I was making supper. The dog's gotta wait another hour. Ah, ho! Fred just attacked me. You don't know who you're dealing with. I'll show you. Put you in there gently. Don't tell my wife. I threw you in there, okay? This is what we're making today for supper. Chicken pot pie. It takes an hour to cook this. Why? Why? 60 to 70 minutes at 350 Fahrenheit or 180 Celsius. Place on middle oven rack and bake for 60 to 70 minutes. I don't even know if I can stay awake for that long, but we're gonna try. I guess I'd better, right? Better so we go and put this on the oven. There she is. I guess I should put away all those dishes to do that while this is cooking. Now I said just place on middle rack. I don't have to put it on a pan or anything. I guess it's just good right on that there. Okay. That's what it said, right? You read it too. Preheat oven or remove frozen pie from packaging and remove plastic film. Done. Place on middle oven rack and bake. Just says place it in there. I'm no rocket scientist, but I don't think I need a pan. Just gonna throw it right in there. There we go. Okay, 60 to 70 minutes. We'll check on you in an hour, little buddy. Put a little, well, 65 minutes, 60 to 70. Oh, oh, there we go. One hour and five minutes set. Okay. Why did it beep at me then? Say error. I don't know what's going on. Too tired for that. Go on over there. Okay. Got some stuff to do yet. Gonna work on some videos. I'm probably watch some TV. Got the hook. Well, it turned out pretty good if you ask me. Just gonna turn this on. As far as I forget, so don't burn the place down. She called me Chef Josh. Chef for Josh. Is that a thing? It's actually really good. Pretty good and delicious, so it turned out good. Brits should be off working about a half hour. I'm gonna wrap this up right now because I'm gonna go lay in bed. I'm tired, eight o'clock's my bedtime, so it's 10 to eight right now. Hope you guys enjoy the video. Just sort of hanging around the area here today. Not sure what tomorrow's gonna bring, but I'll see you then. Take care. See you tomorrow.


So my name is Mark Rackley and I am the Chief Strategy Officer for Paid Group at SharePoint Consulting firm out of Cincinnati, Ohio. So my background as a SharePoint developer goes back to the early days in 2007, so not quite the 2003 days like the old fossils, but in 2007. And from there I did a lot of web part development, you know, the feature development that she would do in Visual Studio. And then from there I actually moved into client side development, actually back in SharePoint 2007 because of some limitations we had with a client doing development in SharePoint. So I've been using the SharePoint framework since towards the end of 2016, that's when I first started playing with it and getting my hands on it and digging around. So I'm still considering myself fairly new to the framework. My impression of the SharePoint framework today is that I think Microsoft is heading in the right direction. I think their concepts for the SharePoint framework, allowing people to create their customizations and get them out of doing content editor web part customizations for some parts at some point, it's a good way to go. I think it's the right path and I think it's kind of the natural evolution of the way people are already developing in SharePoint today. So my thoughts on the roadmap for the framework is that, you know, I really like how open Microsoft is first and foremost. I like how they're taking our feedback and making sure that they cover a lot of the topics and a lot of our concerns. So I like where the roadmap is heading. I like a lot of the features that they're adding. I'm looking forward to being able to do more than just a client web part. I'm looking forward to taking advantage of things that we're missing today that hopefully are coming soon like custom actions and those sort of features that have been critical to us in the past but are currently not in the modern experience. So I'm looking forward to getting to those features back in the modern experience. The one thing I would add to the SharePoint framework today and I've given this one a lot of thought. I think that the thing I would like to see is more examples that are not React based, right? I think that they do, Microsoft, the team uses a lot of React for everything they're doing and a lot of the examples in React. And coming from my side of the house where you may not necessarily embrace a framework or no React, they say you don't have to use React. You can use any framework you want. Well, I'd like to see some more examples where they're not using React so that we can get those people in the framework faster faster. The one thing I would change about the SharePoint framework is probably this is going to get me in trouble with a lot of my server developer friends would be the use of TypeScript. And the way how embedded TypeScript is into it. And I think this leads to a fallen question of the biggest problems people are going to have with it. So I'll kind of defer the rest of my response to that question. But yeah, I wish that there was not such a dependency on TypeScript. That's an interesting question. So the biggest challenge with the SharePoint framework, I think, for a lot of developers is going to be understanding TypeScript. Because we have this huge world of JavaScript developers that maybe don't have traditional training in development. They don't have degrees in development. They don't know what an interface is. They don't understand the concept of classes. And when you throw something like TypeScript at them, it's going to make their heads explode because they just can't wrap their heads around it. So the future of the framework. I mean, I can talk about where I hope it goes. Because I don't think anybody really knows where it goes. There's so many opinions out there. I know people are concerned that they can't use Angular right now in the framework. And they think that that's going to hurt it. Some people think it's such a departure from the way .NET Devs work that it may not be, you know, successful. Like the lack of Visual Studio tooling. People are saying, well, that's going to kill it. I hope that's now what happens. I hope that they continue to invest in it. Continue to add features so that the client-side developers out there can build that skill set and start developing more enterprise grade functionality and web parts and connections and, you know, web hooks and all those things to create some really world-class applications where they're just not throwing script on a page and hoping it doesn't break anything. So I hope that that investment continues and we just make it easier to do our job. For anybody who's thinking about getting into the SharePoint framework, the best advice I can give them from someone, you know, I've been writing code for years. I've been doing, I've done .NET code, I've done Java, I've done C sharp, that's part of .NET. But I've done a lot of development and still jumping into the framework, I was at a loss because it is such a big change. And so I kind of had to just break things and then reach out to people who knew things to get the answers. So I would highly recommend that people actually do training. I've heard that there's a website called Voitanos. They have a Mastering the SharePoint framework course. So I would definitely don't expect because you're a great developer that you can pick this up, right? Actually invest in some training. It's going to make your life a lot easier in the long term.


So here we have a very nice 8K TV right here. Yes sir. So hi, so who are you? I'm Oliver, I'm working for TCL. Welcome at IFA here in Berlin. Good afternoon everyone, good afternoon Starbucks. So this is an 8K TV, 75 inch? Yes, we're going to do a global launch with this TV. It's going to be launched everywhere in the world, but here in Europe we're going to launch this 75 inch by the mid of next year. So mid 2K20 during the summer. Do you know why? During the summer is a good time? Because the Olympics are 8K right? They're going to be broadcasted in 8K. So this is the first global event next year during the summer, Olympic Games in Japan I think. They're going to be in 8K. So there is no rush to launch this model. We're going to launch it in time for this big event. What would be great is if you could make 8K popular. That means affordable. That's exactly our mission in TCL. We want to make innovation and technology affordable to consumers. So you can be sure that this model will be positioned at the right price and probably much lower price than what you find today on the market. So I can just start to speculate. We can start to guess. It all depends on the factory, how you enable to make mass production, hopefully more or less affordable. But hopefully the price is going to be that many people will afford it. Yes, it's going to be an 8K affordable TV, so 75 inch. Potentially two, three times cheaper than what you can find today on the market. Yes, because we are talking about June or mid-year to K20. The reason why we can introduce this product really affordable is also because we control the technology inside. We have our own factories, TCL factories of display called CSOT. So this panel, this display is already mass production. But the more volumes, the lower the price. And does it do quantum dot? This model will be an X series 8K quantum dot and 120 Hz spanner, so 100 Hz in Europe. So you will see very good picture quality indeed. Very nice big one. And here you have a, this is a even more affordable 4K. Yeah, so this one will be launched in one or two months from now. It's a QLED TV. So 4K, not 8K. We're going to launch it in 55 inch and 65 inch. Here what you can see is really nice is coming on a sheet of glass. Very robust sheet of glass. So the product looks really floating in the air. And on the front we have a great Ankyo Sunbar. Android TV inside. All the goodies are there. QLED. I'm not sure you're still, yeah? Yeah, QLED, Ankyo, Android and this nice sheet of glass. Borderless TV, so no front. Is it possible to buy the TV without the Sunbar? This is including Sunbar. The Sunbar can be removed, but then you lose your sound. So you need to pair another Sunbar if you would like to remove it. But you cannot buy it without. It comes together. It comes together. It comes together. A bit very affordable, 55, 65 inch. True, so for sure below 1000 Euro. Yes, for sure. And do you talk about the knits? How bright it gets? Yeah, so that one can reach an HDR premium of 500 knits. So we call it HDR premium 500. Because the peak brightness is 500 knits. So very good brightness. Very good picture quality. Coupled to the quantum dot. Coupled to the QLED. And then you have another new technology. What I also need to mention to you is Dolby Vision. And Dolby Atmos HDR10 compatible. So we are supporting all the standards. When you buy this QLED TV, you don't need to care about the standard. Because we support them all. HLG. HLG, HDR, HDR10 plus Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos. Nice. All of them. And this is a nice looking TV also. This is new technology. Yeah, this is the mini LED TV. This is the slimmest direct LED TV in the world. Some people say direct LED is also called full array local dimming. Full array local dimming means the LEDs are placed or placed at the back. How many you got? So here we have 768 zones of 20 LEDs. Which is 15,000 LEDs. So over there at the back, we have 15,000 LEDs desimilated. 768 zones of 20 LEDs. Why do you have 20 in every zone? To make this zone very bright or very dark. And the pitch between each LEDs is so slim that we can put much more LEDs on such a display. You said 15,000? Yes, 15,000 LEDs. The big benefit here is that this black area can completely dim it. So it goes dark. The bright area is very bright. But the good news is that between the bright area and the dark area, you have almost no halo effect. Normally when you look at the moon in the sky, you will see the halo around it. Here we refine the LEDs so much that there is no halo. Right, dark. The transition is really nice in between these two. On most of the LEDs today, you see a transition and the dark or the black are not so black. So what we reach here is the black level of an OLED. But the brightness is much higher than an OLED. And the color is also much more vivid than an OLED. I'm not sure if you can capture this on a... How bright do you get? 1,500 nits. So it's so-called HDR Premium, 1,500 nits. So it's a little bit more premium price than the other one, right? Yes, the price. Also because this one is a 65 inch. So it's going to be more affordable than any OLED TV, of course. It has QLED. It has 100 hertz panel. It is direct backlight. Android TV. Bezel-less. Slim, slimmest LED TV or direct LED TV in the world. Coupled with this Onkyo Dolby Atmos Sunbar. Specifications are even better than an OLED. Price will be more affordable than any OLED on the market. It's not quantum dot on glass, no? No. But it's very thin. It's not quantum dot on glass. There is a quantum dot film. And behind the film you have this mini-LED display. Nice. And no burn-in like OLED sometimes? No. I will not say my job is not to kill OLED. Because we are neutral. We also produce OLED in TCL. But you are right. It's an issue with OLED. You have sometimes this burning effect. And this power consumption effect. Here on direct LED, no burning effect. And the power consumption is going to be very efficient. Very low. And one thing that I thought was amazing of the CES video. It was just talk about the AI codec and stuff. Behind here it says AI IoT, making life intelligent. Right. Why is this behind the TVs? OK. Our TV's do and bark more and more artificial intelligence. It's not only Android, Google Assistant searching the web. It's also to improve picture quality and the sound quality with special intelligent algorithm. For example, AI means when you show a desert scene, a scene happening in a desert. In the broadcast you have some keywords transmitted. The keywords will be recognized. And the TV, thanks to a library, says, oh, this is the sun. This is the desert. I will adapt the picture quality profile to the desert. So this is artificial intelligence applied to picture quality. Same for the sound quality. We have special algorithm to improve the sound quality. But when I did the video about this codec, it was like 20 times smaller than H2 654 or 5. Maybe that was for the US market, right? We have special R&D happening, right? There's a lot of things happening in the web. Reducing the bandwidth. Yeah. What's the chipset that you use? Do you talk about this? Is this a new generation of chipsets and everything? Yes. It's a new generation of chipsets. I cannot reveal the supplier of the chipset because the TV is not yet on the market. But you can be sure it's a very, well, in fact we have two powerful chipsets inside. For the picture quality and for the upscaling and for the artificial intelligence. Sometimes some people say... Of course. But sometimes some people say that Samsung or LG or Sony have superior chipsets. But would you say that maybe not? Maybe you are... In terms of all this processing happening, that makes the quality better. But that was before maybe. I cannot comment really on which kind of chipset they are using. And I don't know exactly what they told you or what they say. I can only comment here. We are using the latest generation of chipsets specifically on the artificial intelligence. So is it more powerful than Samsung or LG? I cannot comment. Is it the latest generation? Yes, it is.


What is going on everybody? We're here with our last three box break for the time being of 1920 mosaic basketball fast-break edition We're giving away the pelicans in this break actually so nice little Nice little prize here. So we're gonna take all 29 names, which I already did and Randomize them the top name After four times we'll get the pelicans. Good luck everybody one two three Fourth and final time top name gets the pelz four times for Bang Adam cupperman. Congrats You are the owner of the pelicans in this one Nice one. So good luck everybody That's a print and rip Ryan. How's it going? Barrage. What's going on? Oh? Nice got a fox. I said did you pull a? Oh The random team nice Yeah, the random teams 29th spot Arthur. Sorry The random teams is pretty close and we're trying to fill up this new our basketball. This is a big High-risk high reward remember Big high-risk high reward only one person's gonna get the pelicans Probably only one person will be happy unless we pull like a Tatum Silver and it's almost sold out four left now Four left and I don't have any breaks sold out after this. We already did this one. We're doing this one right now So yeah, good luck Yeah, we don't have anything sold out after this Johnny We're trying to fill up the new our basketball random teams and then the pelican spot random There's 20 left in the random teams that might be a little harder to do tonight But we do have four left which will definitely go in this Cellopack break one person Out of 30 so that's a high risk car reward. We also have team all soccer really close for the soccer fans Big Mofandu Give me a kawai Mofandu is your PC. Okay, so we'll go for Mofandu hunting Taylor and Horton Tucker. You're not a fan of Yeah, the Lakers you're mainly hunting for Lebron stuff some AD Yeah, you gotta have us on 720 show YouTube has been ever since the quarantine started they haven't been streaming us an HD. So it's not HD I don't think I guess because of their servers or something everyone's on YouTube This pack feels a lot thinner. That's kind of weird that pack definitely didn't have a cards in it. That's weird You hear what Jason? I heard like this. I just opened a mosaic fast-break pack I had like two cards in it one is a introductions fast-break John Moran a little bendy though Maybe we'll straighten out. What did he pull? That's that box you were saving of what for choice 1819 toys Well, it's gonna be in the mixer. So maybe don't say a lot of stuff though Remember all-card ship. Oh my gosh. Look at this Zion auto what Zion auto Wow Gave away the pelicans for free in the Zion fast-break auto Adam cupperman got the pelicans Adam in nice We're giving this way for free pelicans free. I thought we baked it into the price. I guess not there you go free free Nice one Adam Cody Zeller Scottie Pippin There's a blue George Hill for the Zion number to 85 for George Hill Very big fan of George Hill Joe s Grayson Allen John Moran Jackson Hayes fast-break Eric Gordon number to 50 The base is still pretty big Garland Hatchimora Zion Aaron Gordon Kevin Herter number to 85 We got Kendrick Nunn for the heat I know what they call these ones just the prism silvers Versions of mosaic There's Kobe white Hunter fast-break remember those team USA cards go to the team they play for longest if there's a montage Yanis That's nice George Hill bases are massive Team they play for longest if active sorry team they play for longest if retired current team effective To left and pelican cello that'll probably be next and then we have the full case of noir And yeah, nothing else sold out after this so whatever Whatever first to fill first break after this down for a couple more hours probably They're called mosaics Yeah, it's my first time breaking mosaic actually, but there's another pack, but we're even And the only thing that's on right now is it I don't want to watch it Ain't watching that about to be here by myself No way I'm watching that watch college basketball from like 2006 Georgetown for Syracuse Yeah, I am doing a new R number two tonight Ron. It looks like But whatever feels tonight breaks tonight Ron So if we fill them tonight, we'll break them tonight. If not a rollover tomorrow 2010 this looks a lot older than that 2010 Georgetown Syracuse game Thomas Bryant, there's his eye on base There's grace and Allen blue number to 85 All right, see you Jeff Kobe white There's Russell Westbrook stair masters fast break Lot of puns in mosaic this year blue chips their masters international man of mastery man of mastery, but not mystery Yeah, I don't know about those Kevin ox auto for the Knicks. What's up mark? It doesn't look like a Kevin ox. I feel like kind of weird There's a Zion introductions Purple Josh Richardson for the Sixers number to 50. There's Tyler hero Nice fast break rookie there Kevin love All-card shipping this nice job or ant Yeah, that two-card pack was weird, huh? Although had a job or ant so it's like you can't really complain too much. I picked it up. It was so much lighter I was like, what the heck? There's a job right NBA debut rookie as well Silver first one of this break Carson Edwards. Yeah, I had a Zion auto in that box. We'll forgive him Be a montage and that's it for box two final box Good luck Yeah What's that Luca worth I don't I think it's like four five hundred dollars seriously. Yeah, but this one looks really centered I wouldn't be surprised if that porter is over a thousand bucks Man you took that from the mixer too I was I told Joe like don't say the hits on air people are gonna be like Yeah It's okay, that's funny though. I Hit a Zion auto at the same time. All right. Good luck everybody final box. I think coming up next will be the No, our basketball sell a pack break out imagine looks like we got a gold coming up The brawn fast break nice one there Lakers Rob W. Gold coming up Any guesses on the gold? Is it a rookie? There's international man of mystery Dirk Nevitsky team all might have sold out first night, so Go through the order see what's sold out. It is Jared Allen For the Nets two of ten. That's going out to strategy with the Brooklyn Nets Jared Allen. I think that Nets First team to have practices back. Yeah, that card is Amojo PSA 10 popped I guess the pop is only five of them. Yeah, that's crazy. So for 4,400 yeah, I mean if it's hens and that's awesome Well, I mean, I don't know he was looking at it like it looks pretty center, but then obviously there's more factors But other than that like yeah I don't know I feel like Yeah surface and all that you gotta have a magnifying glass That's a nice hit though. I think the porter is bigger though Blake Griffin montage John Moran NBA debut What's that the center in the front of these are nicer than like the bag or just like the other prison Silver Grayson Allen and we got a Brad Beal number to 85 Yeah, we are talking about your Luca. I'd imagine you hit it right Mike. I I was saying I think the Porter juniors a better card though if I had to pick one Zion base Great 10 yeah, the pop report on the 10 is a pop 5 though Dude I knew there's something hiding we hadn't hit anything good in those so red dragon Carson Edwards auto fast break That's Brian Callahan with the Celtics The black gold. Yeah, look up Porter, Jr. Auto out of eight see if any sold One on There's one listed right now. That was a raw grade of 910 Like a raw card review. Yeah autographed and Shaquille O'Neal Rory Hachimora I know you got to contact Mike Jaspie if you want him to endorse it. Look at this. He charges the fee 61 of 85 $10 a card. No, I don't know Blake Griffin. I told him to hold the Yankees, but I'm I don't know if they already shipped it or not LeBron. I Might have told him late And Eric Pascal, there you go that was the mosaic fast break. Thanks everybody for getting in Got some more break sold out coming up next