Hey, it is time for voiceover body shop, and we got a crowd in here tonight because it's our Holiday party and you're invited We have thrown the Streamyard link into the chat room and We're leaving it up to you guys. We trust you. Yeah, but don't be shy I mean we're voice actors. It's up to me really. It's actually up to Sue. Sue's here in the show tonight It's up to Sue. Look who's here Sue is here fear is this here Hi, Fifi June and Jeff our actual chat room mod is physically here and Sue is remote for for very good reasons tonight. Sorry, Sue. Yeah, but we miss her anyway. Yeah, I Got my box of tissues. I didn't want to give you guys a head cold. Oh, yeah, appreciate that. Okay. All right Here's how this thing works. It's supposed to work like this. It's time for voiceover body shop Join us come in here and we're gonna have a great time tonight right now It's time for voiceover body shop Brought to you by voiceover essentials.com the home of Harlan Hogan signature products source elements the makers of source connect Voiceover heroes become a hero to your clients with award-winning voiceover training Voice actor websites.com where your voice actor website doesn't have to be a pain in the butt voiceover extra your daily resource for voice over success and World Voices the industry association of freelance voice talent and Now here's your hosts Dan and George Well, hello there. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Whitton and this is voiceover body shop or vo Be Finally a crowd in here to do this stuff with there. They all are We got a big crowd over here. There's my hand in the way is George and Frugia and Jeff Holman our our medias are yeah, he's here in the flesh In fact, this is the last time fears and Jeff saw each other too was when he was here in the studio Before pandemic before in the before time. Yeah. Yeah, we got to get you on Mike Jeff get yourself a little bit closer to that one You can swing it around or just pull it around closer to yeah, whatever Extended there you go Yes, doing tech stuff on the fly. Well, we're here You can use this mic while he's done. You know, I could do that. Yeah, you got the controls. I know I am controlling these things That's it, what's my which Mike are you on George? Okay, okay. All right now I got it. Never tap the mic. Never do what I just did never never do that Never do this scratch. Yes. So it's it's the holiday. So all right tonight is Tonight is the last night of Hanukkah. It's so actually it's over now because the sunset gotcha. So it's no longer Hanukkah and Have your jelly donuts or is that not of course? I had my jelly doughnuts. So we've gone out. It's what they're called and Lotkas and I have lot this here tonight, but you're not here. So Sorry, but we we're having we're having a little bit of a party here as you can see Yeah Twisted twist it the other way. There you go. He's made it tight This was the adjustable boomstrap Harlan, where's the adjustable boomstrap? Send us another one, right? We lost the other. Yes Anyway, if you would like to join us here on voiceover body shop tonight and be part of the party George has put the Streamyard link into the chat. Have you not I did I did put the stream yard link into the chat All you got to do is click on it and that will put it you in the waiting room and at any time We can throw to you and bring you into the show and Sue is in control, right? So while while we're here, why don't we talk to the guys that really make it happen on our show? And that's Sue and Jeff because Sue is our director. She's the one doing all the switching and all that stuff and Okay, and George is No, he does his thing I'm doing this part right and Jeff who's making lots of noise with that microphone is okay All right He is our he's our guy that runs the chat room so when if you have questions or something like that you type it in the chat room whether you're in Facebook or whether you're on YouTube or you're at our website vobs.tv which is actually YouTube and And that way You can be part of the show That's right. We want to have you guys here to just to hang out with us. It's tonight's an informal informal night We're just very informal very important. I feel like we're doing a telethon or something. Yes, so send your money now We don't usually we did to the end of the show usually ask you for your money tonight. We're starting right off from the top Improv yes That's that's the whole point hey we're voice actors We need to know improv and it's so great to have all of you here with us tonight So make sure you click on those links, which is now in the in the chat room there and You can join us. Do not be shy. I I'm always fascinated by the fact that people are The three voice actors. They're they're shy. They're like, oh, I don't want to be okay I don't want anyone to hear me. You're in the wrong business if you think that so Anyway, you need to be able to step up and speak up when you need to be heard. That's right Um, anyway, so tell us I was about to ask Sue. Yeah, because Sue is the one that makes everything happen And we've been doing it remote for Geez now over, you know Almost three years now. Is it three years? Yeah, 20 20 21 20. Yeah yeah, and You know it's interesting when we first started doing remote because what we used was like the remote team viewer or no Or zoom share my screen or something. Oh, yeah, and then using a Mac on this side and Remoting into a PC. It wouldn't let me like cut and paste. It was like some different little Things that you couldn't do on a PC that you can't do on a Mac and vice-versa Little complicated. Yeah, cuz we switched from v-mix to Streamyard when right at the beginning of the pandemic right at the beginning of the pandemic great timing Well, I think I guess I think we try to run the show remote via v-mix for a while Right doing it completely remotely and that was such a difficult Challenge.  Oh my gosh. It was so hard to do we did it for a while We suffered through it. Well, you had you had all these different connections in here Here's how we hear this person. Okay, and then we put this one here. Here's how we hear that person Yeah, and really complicated. Yeah, and the thing was I think we kept thinking like a lot of people did that This is not gonna last forever. No Chris told pandemic thing. So why bother solving it permanently? But I think by June or July realized this ain't going anywhere anytime soon So that's I don't know if that was when we did the stream yard, but somewhere around there It was yeah within the last two and a half years or so. Yeah, really. It's really helped The stress level of producing this show. Yeah a lot Yeah, when you consider how things have been set up in the past. This is yeah, this is this is like drawing with crayons It really is and before that we had a thing called wirecast Do you remember that? Yeah, they ran through the beast. We had a giant Mac Pro Tower computer We have had at least five distinctly unique system that we've shown on it took five computers in one dog to run it So we do have someone in our in our green room, I don't know if we want to introduce him or not sure oh my gosh It's Geron McGuire Bring him on board 12 I've been watching you since the beginning guys you may not have known this But I remember when you were buddy Hawking little useless And you know all things from Buffalo, but I tell you I've learned so much from you guys I appreciate you. You're wonderful. I've had you've had great holidays great guys Well, thanks, and how's your career going these days? What career?  I'm having a dinner right now and some Irish whiskey, which is an appropriate thing for an Irish person Cheers Cheers, so we're boy you anymore get on with the show. All right, watch it. All right. Your peas and mash exactly Yeah, yes So anyway, we're so we were we're asking you. It's like so how hard is it to do this stuff now? Since you can now sit in your dining room and you're done there and do it from there It's not it's not really even that difficult anymore. It's Because v-mix we had to build the show every single week, you know, it was it was like a rebuild And just learning that was difficult and then we kind of conquered that So it's pretty it's pretty basic it's pretty simple. I mean, it's definitely some limitations with stream yard With not having a back room, you know, but they've They've made it easier over the past year and half they listen to their fans. They're very Open to suggestions and yeah, they do make changes and it's it's been pretty easy to do this That's the one real missing feature right is the green room kind of thing where you can have a like we're all the guests Can maybe can talk to each other behind the scenes like there's no back channel Like Gerard should be able to talk to whoever else is in the waiting room And we should be able to talk to them and back and forth in some kind of way So hopefully that's gonna come. Yeah, so if you want to sound like Gerard, which is hard to do because he's really good You're going to go into you know look go into the chat room where you see the link for stream yard and Join us because we want to see you we want to hear you because we're voice actors and we want to hear what's going on with you Anyway, so our our other big guy here is Is Jeff Holman? Hey there. Yeah, how you doing? Good, how are you good? So your job is social media and chat room stuff That's right That's right. I talked to the fans get their questions Transcribe them for you guys so you can see them the show notes Yep. Yep sounds like a really hard job Well, you know, I I enjoy it I like to Not just you know take the questions and put them in but you know be like I like that question or yeah That's let's uh, let's wait and hear what they say about that or I'll bet it's this but let's see what they say So and that's and that those are the skills that one needs as as a producer You're not bad. We lost your camera. I try to be I'll fix that I know how to fix that now you make sure like they get their questions heard and yeah A couple of times yeah, it gets down to the end and you're like, oh, it's we're about out of time. I'm like, no No, let's get that last one in Jeff I really like the way you communicate with everyone on the boards like you welcome them and Sorry, I like the way you communicate with everyone on the boards. I think it's pretty cool And they're familiar with you being there and just thank you very much Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's neat. That's the important part about about the chat room is that it is a community And we want people to participate as a community and Jeff's in charge of making sure that happens And that's always good to good to hear and good to see So, uh, but you've you've had an amazing 2022. Have you not you've been in you you were in a It wasn't it did it win an Academy Award? No, it was nominated for an Academy Award, but but being the Riccardo's was It didn't it didn't win but that's okay. It was great to be nominated, you know in a film that was nominated For the actors and it was really cool. It was great. We're getting to work with them giving a dog bomb. Yes Yeah, I love this little puppy dog. He's huge. We do have another Interloper. Oh good. We'll get to we'll get to Mike in a second here Yeah, but but Jeff was telling us about his experience being a Hollywood bigwig now, you know I mean, it was wonderful to watch the movie and like hey, there's Jeff And you've been doing a couple of TV series too, right? That's right. That's right. I was on Yellow Jackets last year and We'll see if they call me up again this year but Yeah, I've been doing some stuff one up to You know went out to film some things can't really talk about So like a second quarter 2023, but yeah some got some stuff coming up We just started watching minks and I saw your I saw your your bid in that Do you show up later in the episode or was that a kind of a one scene? No, that was just a that was just a I mean, I'm in that one episode, but not not any more of the series. Yeah, okay. I don't need to watch the rest Yeah, how long if you've been out here in Hollywood and waiting for the opportunity to do stuff like that Yeah, well, I've been an actor ever since I was in the first grade, but professionally out here for 25 years Wow, and so you did what you know theater and you did small films and Yeah, yeah back in Denver. I did a lot of theater and and local short films and stuff like that and and then Finally took the plunge and came out here 25 years ago and and I've been doing it ever since So I made my living now man, I mean It just I just want to say like the stick to it of Ness the persistence To to be in this business and do that year after year be rejected thousands of times Get on some shows and keep doing it. You're it's just Every time I see an actor who's made it on it on any show let alone the A list celebrities It just I blows my mind. It's a level of I Don't know. It's a level of tenacity that I can't imagine having to want to keep coming back and just saying That wasn't the one for me, but I'm gonna try it again. Thanks man. I appreciate it. Yeah No, we were so proud of you that it's like we know you've been working at it And it was really cool to see you up on the literally on the silver screen. Yeah, and and you and you were great I mean you I can see why they cast you in that particular part in the The one about the Well, the only problem is we know who you are so the illusion of you disappearing But you embody that character you disappear into the character, which is the whole that's the whole thing That's the whole point, right? So, yeah, I know it's you're doing well. Thanks you guys. I really appreciate you saying that Well, we really appreciate all you do for us, you know get keeping the chat room in order who else is here Yeah, who do we got well Gerard is still in there somebody was in there and then they left. Yeah, come on back I couldn't hold on, but yeah, hopefully I'll come back. Oh, okay. Oh, it's Conrad Yeah Was Conrad in here too on his show on your son? Okay? Yeah, all right So what were we talking about? Oh, we were talking about what we were going from Transitioning smoothly without any kickups from our friend Jeff to whoever's in the chat room right that room person left I'm trying to get Uncle Roy to join. I've sent him the link a few times Uncle Roy click on the link and join us. Will you already? Yeah for gosh sakes. We need to see him polishing his Emmy Please come and polish your Emmy with us So, you know We do this show for a very specific reason it's because well the original idea was specifically Just utter shameless promotion of what George and I do which has helped people with their home voiceover studios and stuff But then we had Pat Freiland Like the second week we did the I'm like, okay now we have to interview some important guests and some almost 12 years later. We're still doing it. Yeah, it's a lot of fun Yeah, I'm glad the technology is getting less obtrusive in the process You know it used it used to feel like the whole job of doing the show was just getting the show on the air Yeah, and now it's like the job of getting you know now we can like spend time talking about the show What we're gonna do and adding more elements to the show and it's just it's just how you we can finally just more freely Produce this thing and not feel like every show is Apollo 13 Right? It was for a long time, right? Oh, yeah every week. It's Apollo 13 The reference being that Apollo 13 used to have a problem. Yeah, who weren't around for that one It was almost it was touch-and-go. You never knew they were gonna die in that capsule or make it I had that's how the show that's for a long full confidence in NASA to bring and that's why we never Invited Tom Hanks. I Never travel with that man Cannot be trusted COVID Yeah, you're in a spaceship or a boat. Just don't travel with them Yeah, wasn't either first guy to famous the first really famous person with COVID he was he was that's what it's like Oh, I guess it's real Well, we gotta get Uncle Roy on so Uncle Roy Yokelson What whatever body shop you're on you're right. Hey, I'm on here. I am Here I am Happy last night of Hanukkah and Merry Christmas and Festivus and whatever it is that you're that's celebrating this week Uncle Roy Can you hear us? He's still listening to the Yeah, you're 30 seconds behind there Roy. You gotta actually turn up your radio. Yeah, turn the radio down How do I fix that? You can mute the browser window that you are watching the show on or close that yeah So if you're watching in Facebook or something like that Facebook Facebook, okay? Yeah, and then the audio there and now you should be here I shut off Facebook there, but that gives me a heart attack to not be on Facebook So yeah, so these socks What about those socks? They're Chinese food containers and Oh, yeah, now I can see it Fortune cookies because that's what we do for Christmas, right? Isn't that what you do Dan? Yeah, many times.  Yeah, well, we've seen you an awful lot in 2022 there Right because you we were we saw you in Toronto. We got to physically leave our cells, right? Not too many right you saw me in Atlanta, Toronto Dallas Yeah, I and I saw you in my my house George saw me at my house. That's right. I'm Washington and Now we've added now. You'll see me in Orlando next year. Yeah, right. We'll see you there May 4th through the 7th It's Dan's fault and neither of us have given each other COVID yet. Oh I got it in Dallas. So, oh I'm sorry. I missed that one. I'm really happy. I had a feeling that was gonna be a massive COVID Festival and that was one of the reasons I didn't go to but but so was beyond north and I didn't I didn't catch anything there But 30 people got COVID. Yeah. Yeah, I avoided it, too. That was terrible Actually, I wore a mask a lot. I remember Yeah, we were we were we're trying to mask quite a bit that everybody like that show here I have do you like this? How's that? Oh very cute. Love it Love it You know what? I think that show is so well loved because they kept the scale, you know me Manageable in terms of size and I think that's the golden thing that makes a lot of the the show is successful Is they keep the scale? Keep it small. Yeah, like Mavo Mavo, right? I haven't been till yet, but I hear that one's a hundred or so 125 something like that. Yeah, it was like I'm around a hundred. It was a lot of fun Actually, it keeps the you know what the show that really started that whole micro thing the micro conference was Fafcon, right? Yes. Yeah, the whole Fafcon. They kind of started the micro conference and that That keeping that energy going and all these other Michael on conference the on conference on nothing scheduled about it That's right. Yeah, what will con is going to be a little bit more like that Yeah, that's cool. More more intimate that way. So nice. You have to join world voices to find out why Be there because you have to be a member to come to the local car Which is really important, but Uncle Roy will be there George will be there. I'll be there There'll be all sorts of people that's three good reasons to go right there exactly exactly And and everybody should put September 30th and October 1st on their calendar to come to my house. Oh That's right for the annual 18th annual Where George live streams seven hours? I think I watched an hour and a half of it this year It's still in the archives if anybody wants to see it badly enough. Let me know just go just go on Facebook and search Uncle Roy's 17th annual and it's right there. Boom links right there. Yeah, I appreciate that Always a good time lots of voice over people from the Tri-state area. Yeah, well and and farther well this year. We're gonna have all of Canada there. So Yeah, Devin row her husband Ellie Ray Kim handy sides, oh, you know the good Canadians would all the good ones Well, it's gonna be not conflicting with can it Canadian Thanksgiving, right? The reason that was the screw up now I understand yes, it was It was the Columbus Day weekend Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, who knew but now we know and now it's gonna be even better Had it been the weekend before it was pouring rain. So it was it wasn't upside to You're right. I'm digging those radios behind George's head. I know they're not they're not his but Another dance. Those are those are all my radios That there's a 1928 Peter Pan, which is black one That black one there so it'll make just that one. Yeah, that's a theta. Yeah, I have one that looks Except my grill is black. Yeah, you know if those of you who know radios, which is probably none of you Minor over there is somewhere You really have to zoom in a lot to go see him But yeah, but Roy and I have a competing collection here and microphones too. There's some matter microphone Yes, in there. Yeah, yeah got an RCA 77 Okay, you've got the one I don't have DX or yeah, okay Yeah with a new ribbon and then the Altec Western Electric 639 Combination ribbon and dynamic the bird cage bird cage exactly Yeah, see now. Now, you know that you were taught listening to two real old radio Like that all the cockas are here. Yeah, there's the Altecocker set free to join our panel tonight if you want to change the subject We're gonna talk old radios folks. Yeah Microphones. Yeah, and old microphones Yeah, so so tell us a little bit about what some of the other stuff that you do aside from attending lots of conferences for the food and And the bagels and the bagels my carry-on luggage as everybody knows is three or four dozen bagels So I'll be bringing them to Orlando because Orlando probably doesn't have good bagels, right, right Yeah, we've just finished Val Kelly's animation demo We're gonna release it January 3rd. She'll do a little mini podcast and we'll put it out there. I Co-directed with Before we started We're back the stream yard went Wow, what happened in the sky for five seconds fast forward. What happened there? Go ahead. I don't know what was the question Tell us a little bit about ant land productions and all the stuff that you Make killer demos. I'm in friendly competition with Dan and George. I don't design studios like George. That's his thing But yeah Adobe audition is my thing if you Would like my two-hour life changing Adobe audition set up and training session. There's that Little plug I get a lot of clients that have had that and they rave about it. That's good I think Dan said if anybody asks about an Adobe set up, he's just gonna send them to me. So I appreciate that Right George is too busy with Tired of the one-on-ones just just sign up for a webinar. Yeah, I don't know Trish Besany was telling me I should restart recording content and this way send out some content pre-recorded and I won't have to spend all my but but it's a social event I who wants who wouldn't want to spend two hours just talking about old radios with me, right? You know, but you know what? Uncle Roy, I love that you do that you do make it two hours like you're not trying to pack it in Get it done as fast as humanly pop. You're giving him two full hours.   I'm not I'm not typing anything. It's Jeff. No. Oh Jeff Jeff's doing his job. That's that's what Sue's head was moving like I was agreeing. I I do a do be everything in Adobe. So Okay, please join the class. We're doing a little bit of a teacher. I don't need to take your you can teach my class. I love it Oh Yes, and we just had the 12 of you gifts of Christmas with the Mark Scott What he's going on No mispronounce it it's Adobe not a doobie. Yeah, he said a doobie. Yeah Oh, that's what I thought he was talking about. Oh, you can teach about a doobie. Oh Like right here. Oh man That's a good sweater. I knew you'd like it. I wore a sweater that my mother made for me when I was 11 That's my ugly sweater. It's what would you put it on now? I could put it on it's a little short Because I was I was a little shorter than does it go over the belly button or does it not quite make it over the belly button Just it's like belly button Yeah, the trance stamp and the belly button just peeks out right underneath the edge Well, that's all right. It's a good thing. I have all these other shirts on Tough to hide the belly button Belly buttons hidden by the Grinch's foot Hey, look everybody else we'd love you to join us and be part of the party. Yeah on voiceover My name is Grace. I see you all in there Well Your art there he's waving. Yeah, okay. We'll come back to Gerard in a second. You know what else we got to talk to We have to talk to Fifi Fifi Yes, everyone's asking There's a lot of people going who's the lovely lady next to George. Yeah You're famous already. Yeah What's new oh, what's new You're back safe and there Pee-pee was on the delay feed Yeah, how are you doing? Why did you come to the show tonight? This is the last show of the year the last show ever hold on I didn't ever know What Yes And then we're gonna shoot the first show of 2023 after this. Oh my god That's why we're here for two full hours And that's why there's food That's Mishka Mishka she is so lovely she is a beautiful She stopped parking and that's the best part Yes, we're bribing your dog with chips. Yes, she will eat anything But I got a really nice time and Joshua tree together. That's where we decided to spend our Christmas Eve Christmas together and Boy, if you're in if you're in the Southern California area and you want to get away from everything for a while I Can't vote strongly enough for Joshua tree.  Wow Oh, it was awesome. Yeah, it was beautiful and quiet and peaceful and Windows it But then our friends good friends of fear is those are architect designers and they got to build their own desert house Which is completely like open space all around the house And it's got a big it's got a pool in the back But deep enough and long enough to swim laps and a jacuzzi and you can sit out there and literally stargaze. It's just That's amazing. It's insane Airbnb in the next couple of probably month or so. Okay, when they get it done Anyway, we've had a wonderful time That's great. That's terrific. My daughter would be here except she is ice skating She had a very important ice skating meetup with her buddy We have watched her grow up on this show When you think about it When you moved here, she was about a little bigger than the dog Do you remember crawling around? Oh, yeah, wouldn't sit still and she was like Totally ants in the pants, you know, like she could now it's like I can't get her to move Yeah, well, no, she'd always want to go in the house and play with my wife. Well, yes She would be entertained by your wife, right? I got snacks. Boom. She's gone. Yeah out the door Yeah, but now it's like I can barely to get her to move. So when she said I'm going ice skating I was like, go ahead kid go do something outside. George. Why are you too close?  No, this camera was like this close before right? So that's why I called it George too close. Oh, okay. Oh, okay Well, guess what guys we want you on this show I see Mike Cunningham's gonna be joining us and I'll go Roy is with us We got a if you want to be on click on the StreamYard link that is in one of the chat rooms whether you're watching I keep pace pasting it keep pasting it in Because we want to see more people in next half hour, but we're gonna take a quick break And we'll be right back after these good messages on voiceover body shot. Don't go away This is the Latin lover narrator from Jane the Virgin Anthony Mendez and you're enjoying Dan and George on the voiceover body shot well, Merry Christmas and Merry Christmas. We are celebrating Christmas twice Never seen that before but then I'm old Go figure. 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It's my time to talk about source connect Well source elements in general anyway, so source elements as you guys are all well aware by now Is a company that's innovating for years good mute just Mike and they've been Innovating for years creating remote collaboration tools and there's some cool stuff coming next year that I've heard some teasers about that I can't talk about But source connect and source nexus are the big ones that are going to be in use by so many studios Nexus is interesting because it's a tool set that's going to allow Connecting together not only different things around the world remotely But also things within your own computer and when that is becomes fully realized in its next level a layer of functionality It's gonna be a game changer for the way productions work remotely I guarantee it But even today you can get nexus I think it's version 1.2 and it lets you bring audio into your DAW from other Software, so let's say you are producing yourself a podcast and you want to record what's coming out of Well, I don't know zoom or any other software even a chrome browser You can have that record into a track in your DAW all through nexus So it's an extremely useful tool for production You don't need to use source connect with nexus nexus is just a means of routing audio from here to there Inside your computer, so it's something worth checking out if that might be up your alley But anyway, we want to thank source elements their support for the show has been Unwavering for over six years. We really appreciate your support Over all of you at source elements and let's get back to the show after just a couple more quick spots right after this Don't do not make me go to I think Sue just got kicked off one maybe that's what it is You know the whole night we've been singing the praises of StreamYard and simplicity That's that comes with using a tool set like this, but the thing is folks It's still running on a web browser Yeah, and anybody knows in professional production Relying on web browsers to run everything not always the greatest idea true and this is an exact reason why But here's the next spot that should we do a spotlight we could know we don't have to do a spot I just have to click this hey there I'm David H. 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Welcome to the show. Hi. How are you? Good? We're good Excellent. I uh, this is the first time I've actually come to check this out. This is your first time here It is a grace introduced me to it and so figured I'd show up and see what was going on And I saw Terry and a bunch of other folks. I know and Uncle Roy and seemed like the place to be Way to show up Mike.  I think we're frozen up Journey so far. There we go. I think we caught up. Um, well, oh, yeah Yeah, I wonder if it's my end up for Well, I've been doing this for about a year now. I met up with a bunch of really slight internet issue That'll happen So tell us a little bit about how your voice of your journey is going It's it's starting to pick up now. Finally. I've been doing this for about a year and started getting coached by Tim Powers real great guy and Was very unsure of myself about all of this for a very very long time and Excellent. All right. Well, you tell us a little bit about what you got in your studio there right now. I'm using a Mojave Audio MMA 200. I've got a Mo 2M2 interface and I got this lovely road And I can't remember the model name the the one a one-plus arm for Christmas The AI one. Yeah, the interface for the arm the arm the arm. Oh the arm a one-plus. Yes, PSA one-plus Yeah, it's the one that has like a sleeve over it. Yeah, make any noises when you love it. Love it Yeah, it's well-designed. I have one too super psyched about it. I mean, uh, this whole thing I built with my bare hands What are we in a closet a box? No, I built I built a fully insulated Like room. It's freestanding. I have a small house I live in a little Cape Cod and I didn't have a closet because these don't really have closets So I had to figure out what to do. Otherwise, I would just end up listening to my dogs parking me all day So I built a little you know some ventilations lighting all this and rock wall insulation. It's been it's been pretty great That's great. It sounds sounds pretty good. Yeah, it's not bad For not knowing what I'm doing Well, you probably know more now than you did then that's for sure certainly true That's great. Well, we're glad you're here. That's your first time actually watching the show and it is and you get to be on Other people been watching for almost 11 years and haven't shown their mugs yet You know the sun shines on a dog's butt every once in a while, right? Good absolutely Then well, thanks for joining us. Yeah, thank you very much for having me This is really neat. Yeah, we think it's neat too, which is why we keep doing it And if you stick around to the second hour, we'll be talking tech. So yeah, so stick around So yeah, let's be here. All right, great. All right What else we got to talk to well, we're waiting for Jim Edgar who keeps turning off his oh, there he is So now we're gonna add I didn't let me in tonight. I thought that I didn't have a red hat or anything I've got the fez didn't get here through you Jim Edgar you are you're in one of the one of the I Generally count on one hand guys who actually know What we're talking about when it comes to home voiceover studios and you're one of them. Oh, thank you Thank you, you know and people people come to you So tell us a little bit about you and your voiceover stuff and the stuff that you do Yeah, I'm thinking I'm gonna stick with it. I'm kind of like No, I I've kind of fumbled my way into voiceover in about 2007 I was working full-time in retail marketing and things like that and started taking some classes and Just knew I had to do it for the rest of my life So also what I found about like the second voiceover class ever took was that All those years watching tape rewind and trying to make computers talk to instruments in the studio is paid off Because who knew you had to record yourself, but so yeah It was it was well They used to tell people like the first class I took they all told us how when we went to our agency We'd have to you know, find a quiet corner so we could concentrate on the script and about a month later They stopped saying that because all the Bay area of I'm up in the San Francisco Bay area The agencies up here told everybody to stay home and record themselves So hence the the little side gig that came along with everything else at that point where I started helping people set up studios So That's kind of kind of continued to be a thing So I'm lucky enough to to get to do this is my day job. So it's a nice thing plus I get to hang out with guys like you So I get you guys totally locked up to me, but I will maybe I could do like little sock puppets for each of you Well Jim, thank you very much. Would you please you know send us a check so that we put this on the air Okay, sure that sounds good Perhaps I'll do something like that Now you're back. Okay, good. I didn't think I could keep going there for a while. That's good. That's good. So I Figured I'd pop on just so I could be someone who's alive and moving. Okay. No, we got other people who want to come in here Come on. You still got a chance We still got about 10 minutes if you want to come on and say happy holidays and all that and what I didn't say Thank you to all's y'all yet. So let me if I can take me off you have you have the floor I've been with you since it was east-west and At that point you were like a voice of sanity that said you don't have to like put gobs of compression and reverb on every voice-over thing So thank you for what you've done to the community for the last 23 three decades. I think you've been on the air something like that. No, it's the 12 years 12 years. Thank you both Thank you all for that Well our job here is to do Is to say this do less You must do less Sounds fair, you know, we a lot of us come from production radio music recording We have all these incredible tools at our disposal and so we tend to want to use them My favorite thing to do Jim. I don't know how often you get to go into people's studios But to physically unplug a lot of stuff. It's nice. Yes You don't need a 24 channel board for doing voiceover through a single mic Yeah, I'm really speaking. That's what I found the first time I walked in the Don LaFontaine studio I could get a 32 by 8 Console Very nice sitting in there. I was like who sold you this Well, you can keep your lunch warm. It's nice. So you got that going good point. Yeah. Yeah, so it's been I also know Jim and I also have this shared affinity for bicycles were kind of pretty huge bike nerds. Yeah Jen would probably you would admit to that, right? I would definitely yeah I worked in the bike industry for a lot of years and I'm one of those silly people who likes bikes that don't let you coast So I kind of like that and I like, you know, I'll Get any excuse to get out on the trails. So we still you still owe me a trail ride when you come up here So we totally do and you're in you're in the I'm just north of San Francisco. So I've got the area of Marin County Yeah, so we've got all the mountains and other trails up here to go hit. So that must be beautiful Yeah, we'll be up there. We'll be up there. Sure. Excellent. It's kind of excellent call ahead. All right. I will Okay, okay, let's see here we have Terry brisco What's up Terry to see again Pump up your game turn up the game pump up the jams. Sorry. I was doing a dubbing session. They like halfway Yeah, exactly. Make sure you said it back then. Yeah So, where are you located? I'm in Clarksburg, Maryland about 20 minutes outside of DC. Yeah, okay That's why we ran into each other in Washington You were there at Mavo Right, exactly and I got to meet you at Uncle Roy's. Yes, you did That's right, man. That's right. That was great. You're lucky to have electricity. I understand I heard some folks in your knuck of the woods lost power right before Christmas There were some yes, there were some and we also had a plane hit a transformer a couple weeks ago, too So, oh great tree always exciting. Oh, wait, is that the plane that got hit a pole and was hanging from the pole? Yeah, that's my that's probably like 10 minutes from my house.  I think they flew down from New York Was it like a big plane like a airbus? No, it was a last night. Yeah I was like the one that landed in the ocean in Santa Monica a couple days ago Yeah, you guys hear about that and I missed that one Mayor of Santa Monica from the 60s. Yeah, it was flying with somebody else just going for a ride They crash landed in the surf right next to the pier They wouldn't anybody somehow didn't anybody. Yeah, and unfortunately the mayor the former mayor didn't survive. Oh, yeah pilot Just had minor cuts and scrapes, but the mayor did not live. Is that strange irony or what? That's very Very bizarre anyway Man, it's been nice to have you. I'm glad you could join us tonight You got you got any parting shots about how we can what we might do in the show for 2023 to take it to the next level Yeah, really. Oh man. Oh I wouldn't tell you to change a thing keep doing what you're doing I love the guests that you guys have a lovely to have a tech talk in addition to things. So I mean I've gotten some great advice over the year And you have the best staff in the world We like those two for sure. Yeah, thanks, man. Great to see you guys. Happy holidays. I hang out for tech talk if you got a question there, too All right, so yes, you know Sue and I are now fighting over the Back Dan, then yeah, you can relax Control your camera whenever it wants to look over See, it's it's not doing it, but it will it will zoom now. Is it gonna zoom now? It's working. Do it again. Do it again Here we go. So you go up There how do you like them apples? That's cool, man Yeah, but we'll bring everybody on to say goodbye. Maybe well, we will in a second. Let's see. Is there is anybody left here?  Okay Okay, so but I would have liked to have seen more of you But I would say you should stay and hang out for tech talk Then we'll get into some really heavy-duty stuff this was just a little bit of a party because we want to thank you guys for watching the show all these years and and that's really what makes it happen is you guys asking questions and Telling us what you need to know and we'll tell you What it is supposedly that we know We'll make up everything else. That's right. We'll leave it up to you to figure out which is which we'll call Jim Edgar or something Are you kidding? We taught all these guys everything they that's right Whipper snappers. Yeah So anyway, there's a lot of gray hair tonight Dan and most of it wasn't ours I know I'm assuming these guys have been at it for a while. All right. Well, okay I'm gonna let everybody all right Sue let everybody in you know have control we give the control of your TV set back to you the hangers on Gerard Mike. Hi, thanks for joining us Yeah, you're welcome guys. This is great. All right. Well hang out for tech talk because we want to talk tech Definitely got some questions for that. Okay super duper. All right. Well, we're gonna take a break right now We'll be right back to get things rolling for the next hour right after this. So don't go away It's not the top of the hour yet we still have another break here. 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That's voice over x t r a dot com Hi, this is bill farmer and you are watching voice over body shop. It's great and we're back To say goodbye at least to this segment because by the time you're watching this One it's already over because you're watching it now, but if you're watching it in replay Really over Oh now Debbie Derryberry is texting me and asking me if my family in Buffalo is okay. Oh, thanks. Thanks Deb We really appreciate that We have one quick purse. Can we just bring someone else on quick? Sure. Sure. Who is that? I'm not sure somebody from grants grand rapids voice. Hey, how you doing rapids voice over. Hey, what's going on? Happy holidays Thanks for joining us Thanks for inviting us. Yes. My name is George No, it's not get out of here. I'm a tech my name is George And I got a mustache like dan so wow. Oh my god. This guy is the clone. He's the literal mash-up of me and you We have we have the actual if they made it right here right now. That's right. That's why I'm such a fan Thanks, George. He's missing his red hat. Thanks man. Thanks for joining. Thanks for joining Thanks for the invite hang around for the a tech talk if you can I'll be here already George Okay, I thought he was jerking my chain. No apparently apparently not somebody google that guy see if he's not full Yeah, really Uh next week on this show. Uh, uh, actually we're gonna we have tech talk number 93 Yep, which we're about to record and if you're watching live You really should just hang out without to do that because it'll be a little bit more organized and civilized theoretically um But on january 9th kelly mozinski will be joining us from the voice caster Excellent and then on january 23rd that whole week jason lenear white will be here cool That dude, I I grok what he does he's he's doing he's he's making it happen. That's the most important thing Uh, so anyway, we have uh, we have donors We need to thank them even if they're not watching tonight, although i'm sure some of them are like, uh, robert leadham Uh, grace newton Where are you? You're on a different one than I am. Maybe maybe i'm two episodes ahead. That's right. I'm time traveling Yeah, kasey clack jonathan grant until george catches up tom pinto whose birthday it is today Greg tom has Yeah, uh, shelly avilino. We did that one dr. Voice ant land production Martha con 949 design christopher epperson sarah borges philips appear brian page patty gibbons rob writer shana pettington baird Don griffith tremosly diana birdsong and sandra man willer Thanks guys for keeping things running here. Why by supporting us financially. We really appreciate that Uh, we got a plug home voiceover studio.com because Well, we'll get to that in a minute and you and you've got stuff coming up, too, right Yes, uh next year and in the middle of the month of july, uh, january, sorry, um, we're going to be doing the next Level production and vo recording techniques webinar. So trying to just do a cornucopia A smorgasbord of different audio recording technologies and tools and everything to share with you guys That one's going to be a very discounted one at 29 bucks Uh, but if you want to interact you're a vip you can join it at the 49 dollar level We're just like I said be there live and watch live. So that's what we're doing coming up in january january fifth three p.m specific time all right Uh, we need to thank our sponsors like harlan hogan's voiceover essentials voiceover extra source elements vo heroes.com voice actor websites.com and worldvoices.org at the industry association of freelance voice talent Go to our website click join why join and we'll tell you why Uh, thanks jeff holman. You're actually here. Thanks jeff. Thanks jeff And uh, sue marlino for getting it done even though she's feeling a little under the weather. Please feel Appreciate that you would be We were hoping you would be here. So I will eat a potato chip in your honor Anyway, I just realized the camera wasn't on jeff. Jeff's having a drink. Oh, perfect time to show the camera All right, here's to sue. I wish you were here. All right. Well, yeah, I'll be better soon. Hopefully Well, we we we appreciate that you still are able to do it from home, which makes it a lot easier anyway, um Well, let's see we're past christmas And hannika hannika is now officially over. Mm-hmm. So what's left new years now? It's all downhill from here Yeah, it is and then it's 2023 2023 is going to be a good year. This is the lame duck week I remember teaching, you know, it was like Thanksgiving week. It was like my day tuesday. Maybe wednesday I'd just show them a marx brothers movie. It was the best way to deal with that Anyway, uh, we're gonna. It's rack it up for tech talk here In the meantime, you know, it's not an easy business But it's important to us that your audio is right because if it sounds good, it is good I'm dan lennard. George widdum and this is voiceover body shop or vo b Stay tuned for tech talk


Hello, I'm Dr. John Feller. I'm the Chief Medical Officer for Halo Diagnostics. I like to talk to patients out there, especially men, with regard to a new type of biopsy of the prostate gland to detect prostate cancer. In the past, the standard of care had been a random, transrectal, ultrasound-guided biopsy. The problem with the old way of doing it is that up to 1 third of prostate cancers were missed because of the random nature in which the biopsy is performed. Now, if a patient has an elevated serum PSA, which is the screening blood test for prostate cancer, and they undergo the new type of MRI of the prostate, a multi-parametric MRI, if we see a suspicious abnormality, rather than doing a random biopsy, we do what's called an MRI-targeted biopsy. This can be done two ways. One way is called an in-bore MR-guided biopsy. This is a biopsy that's done by a radiologist inside the MRI unit using MRI pictures to target the suspicious area. The other way to do it is done by urologists, where the urologist actually fuses the images from the prostate MRI with real-time ultrasound inside the urologist's office. And that fused set of images is used to do a targeted biopsy of the suspicious area. This technique, using the MRI to target the biopsy, increases the number of clinically significant prostate cancers that we detect, and decreases the number of clinically insignificant prostate cancers that we detect, compared with the old random transrectal ultrasound-guided biopsy. The other advantage is that the Gleason score, which is a measure of how aggressive a prostate cancer is, is the most important marker for determining the prognosis and therapy of a prostate cancer patient. The old transrectal ultrasound-guided biopsy gets the Gleason score incorrect in 30% to 40% of patients. Using MRI to target the biopsy, the Gleason score is obtained incorrectly in only 5% of the cases. So not only does the MRI improve the detection of clinically prostate cancer, it also improves the characterization of that cancer by giving us a much more accurate Gleason score, helping to get a better picture of your prognosis and exactly what type of therapy that you need.


Stories and content and weird darkness can be disturbing for some listeners and is intended for mature audiences only. Parental discretion is strongly advised. Without a doubt, New Jersey's oldest, most enduring and important pieces of folklore is the tale of the infamous Jersey Devil. For close to 300 years now, Jerseyans have told tales of this mythical beast that stalks the Pine Barrens and terrorizes local residents. The recurring nature of this story begs a few questions. Why have New Jerseyans embraced this legend so steadfastly and above all others? Is there actually some sort of creature roaming the Pine Barrens of southern New Jersey? And if so, what on earth is it? Legend has it that in 1735, a Pine's resident known as Mother Leeds found herself pregnant for the 13th time. Leeds is the name of one of New Jersey's earliest settlers and many descendants of the Leeds family can still be found throughout New Jersey to this day. Mother Leeds was not living a wealthy lifestyle by any means. Her husband was a drunkard who made few efforts to provide for his wife and 12 children. Reaching the point of absolute exasperation upon learning of her 13th child, she raised her hands to the heavens and proclaimed, let this one be a devil. Mother Leeds went into labor a few months later. On a tumultuously stormy night, no longer mindful of the curse she had uttered previously regarding her unborn child, her children and husband huddled together in one room of their Leeds Point home while local midwives gathered to deliver the baby in another. By all accounts the birth went routinely and the 13th Leeds child was a seemingly normal baby boy. Within minutes however, Mother Leeds unholy wish of months before began to come to fruition. The baby started to change and metamorphosed right before her very eyes. Within moments it transformed from a beautiful newborn baby into a hideous creature unlike anything the world had ever seen. The wailing infant began growing at an incredible rate. It sprouted horns from the top of its head and talon-like claws tore through the tips of its fingers. Leathery bat-like wings unfurled from its back and hair and feathers sprouted all over the child's body. Its eyes began glowing bright red as they grew larger in the monster's gnarled and snarling face. The creature savagely attacked its own mother, killing her, then turned its attention to the rest of the horrified onlookers who witnessed its tempestuous transformation. It flew at them, clawing and biting, voicing unearthly shrieks the entire time. It tore the midwife's limb from limb, maiming some and killing others. The monster then knocked down the door to the next room where its own father and siblings cowered in fear and attacked them all, killing as many as it could. Those who survived to tell the tale then watched in horror as the rotten beast sprinted to the chimney and flew up it, destroying it on the way and leaving a pile of rubble in its wake. The creature then made good at its escape into the darkness and desolation of the pine barons where it has lived ever since. To this day, the creature, known varyingly as the Leeds Devil and the Jersey Devil, claims the pines as its own and terrorizes any who are unfortunate enough to encounter it. I'm Darren Marlar and this is Weird Darkness. Welcome, weirdos. This is Weird Darkness. Here you'll find stories of the paranormal, supernatural, legends, lore, the strange and bizarre, crime, conspiracy, mysterious, macabre, unsolved and unexplained. Coming up in this episode, without a doubt, New Jersey's oldest, most enduring and important piece of folklore is the tale of the infamous Jersey Devil. For 300 years, Jerseyans have told tales of this mythical beast that stalks the pine barons and terrorizes local residents. But is it merely a legend or could there truly be some kind of real creature that fits the horrifying description? If you're new here, welcome to the show. While you're listening, be sure to check out WeirdDarkness.com for merchandise, to visit sponsors you hear about during the show, sign up for my newsletter and our contests, connect with me on social media. Plus, you can visit the Hope in the Darkness page if you're struggling with depression or dark thoughts. You can find all of that and more at WeirdDarkness.com.  The legends of the Jersey Devil stretch back hundreds of years and, like many such legends, are a mixture of half truths, twisted perspective and blurry recollections. Sightings of this apparently mythical creature continue today, however, leading some to suspect there may be more to the accounts than just mere stories. While the origins and indeed the vast majority of descriptions of the Jersey Devil have their roots in the practicing of dark arts, the summoning of demonic entities, and claims of the Devil himself, it is entirely possible, if such a creature does exist, it is one that has, as unlikely as it might be, avoided detection and study from the modern world. Indeed, perhaps it is even some kind of humanoid who once called the open plains of New Jersey home. Many features of the Jersey Devil sightings also come up in the equally bizarre spring-heeled jack sightings of the mid-19th century to the early 1900s in England, predominantly in London. Such things as a leaping or flying ability or strange claw-like feet, even more bizarre are details of flames or a strange glow in accounts of each of these strange creatures. Might there be a connection or are the sightings simply a testament to overactive imaginations? One of the first accounts on record and the one most associated with the legends of the Jersey Devil goes back to the Pine Barrens area of South New Jersey in 1735. There, a lady by the name of Jane Leeds announced she was pregnant with no less than her 13th child. To all who would listen, she would say, the Devil can take this one. According to the legend, this 13th child had the shape of a human, but the look of a reptile. Details state the child was born with claws, a tail and horns. It would grow exceptionally quickly with some accounts stating up to 20 feet in height. It would leave the Leeds household through the chimney and vanish. The legends and stories of the Jersey Devil at the time often called the Leeds Devil began to thrive soon after. However, it is likely that the use of the Leeds name is due to the writings and ideas of one of the Pilgrims to the New World of America. Daniel Leeds, who records a show arrived in Burlington, New Jersey in 1677. Like many of the new immigrants, Leeds was a member of the Society of Friends, more commonly known as the Quakers. Born in Leeds, Yorkshire in England in 1651, the 24-year-old was a devout follower of his religion. He was also a man with interests in pagan rituals and beliefs who himself had visions from an early age. It was these interests and Leeds' own background which would ultimately lead the Quaker community to turn on him. In doing so, particularly as their community would submit to the industrialization of the coming decades of the once open countryside, they had sown the seed of the legends that would follow. Daniel Leeds was well educated in such ancient arts as astrology and methods of what we would call today alternative healing. At the time, the Quaker population increasingly regarded these teachings of Leeds as being black magic and even satanic. Leaflets were regularly distributed around Quaker settlements and into the wider populations. Perhaps Leeds' loyalty to the British also put him at odds with the locals. Furthermore, the Leeds family crest was of three dragon-like creatures which only further aroused suspicions and, in the minds of the settlers, strengthened the lengths between Daniel Leeds and what future generations would call the Jersey Devil. An apparent exorcism in 1740 claimed to banish the creature from the area for 100 years. The legends, however, would continue throughout the centuries and into modern times. Upon the discovery of bog iron in the New Jersey region, the population rapidly grew as industries gave birth to communities, towns and eventually cities. There would also be an increase in sightings. In 1800, Commodore Stephen Decatur, a naval hero of his time, would visit the Hanover ironworks to test the cannonballs the plant produced. While doing so, one particular day he would report a strange winged creature flying over the firing range. Another sighting came from the brother of Napoleon, Joseph Bonaparte in the early 1820s, who claimed to see the Jersey Devil while hunting game in the region. The stories and claimed sightings spread throughout the populations around New Jersey, claims that farmers' sheep had been snatched from their pens or that the beast would pray on children out after dark would lead to many people hanging lanterns on their doorsteps in hopes of keeping the Jersey Devil at bay. There were several intriguing encounters throughout 1899 in the New Jersey region, many of which are documented in the book Monsters of New Jersey, Mysterious Creatures in the Garden State by Lauren Coleman. I'll place a link to that in the show notes. In fact, some reports even came from as far away as New York where one resident, a local farmer, reported blood-curdling screams in the middle of the night before discovering several of his sheep missing the following day. In Woodbury, New Jersey, on the evening of the 16th, going into the 17th of January, a gentleman who was walking out of a hotel suddenly heard a hissing sound. As he looked around, he noticed a strange white creature flying over the road. As it flew, the hotel guest noticed glowing eyes looking at him and would later state that it moved as fast as an auto. On the same evening in Burlington, local resident Joseph Loudon, along with the rest of his family, noticed a strange noise, like some heavy body trampling in the snow in the yard. More chilling though was when this strange creature, whatever it was, began moving around the house, doing several laps before attempting to gain entry through the back door. After several tense moments, it suddenly left. When the Loudon family investigated outside, they could see strange, beast-like footprints in the snow all around their home. Another resident from Gloucester City also noticed bizarre footprints in the snow. He would follow them through several gardens before they appeared to stop after entering a junkyard. Just over 24 hours later, on the morning of January 18th, back in the Burlington area of the city, the Loudons would discover more of the disturbing footprints outside their house. This time, instead of going around the house, they were impressed into the snow near the garbage can. When the family inspected closer, they could see a rubbish and half-eaten thrown-away food had been emptied onto the ground, as if someone or something was searching through it. As news spread around the town, residents began to treat the incident of the Loudon family seriously. Many would bolt their doors and windows long before dark, refusing to go outside. The following evening, another batch of encounters would unfold. In the early hours of January 19th, at a little after 2.30 am in Gloucester City, Mr. and Mrs. Evans were in bed, when the most bizarre of noises dragged them from sleep. Each of them sat up and turned their attention to their bedroom window. Much to their surprise, sitting upon the roof of their shed was the Jersey Devil. Mr. Evans would later state that the creature was around three feet high and had a head like a collie dog and a face like a horse. What's more, its long neck stretched to a back that contained wings about two feet long. It also had crane-like legs upon which it stood upright, with two short front legs with paws. He would eventually open the window in an attempt to scare the strange creature away. When he did so, however, it would turn to face him before barking and flying away. After reporting the sighting, two hunters would trail the apparent tracks of the creature for several miles. According to the route it appeared to take, it was able to leap high enough to jump over fences five feet high. Several similar incidents would unfold in the days that would follow. As January 19th went on, more and more sightings of strange footprints and on some occasions even the creature itself were reported. One such sighting in Camden, for example, resulted in a report claiming that the creature was something like a possum the size of a dog with a shrill bark before flapping its wings and taking off into the air. In the town of Swedesboro, another report surfaced of a bizarre creature with something similar to antlers or horns on its head. Another discovery of strange footprints came from Glassboro which were described as being dog-like with three toes. The following day, on January 20th, a policeman in Burlington would report a menacing figure whose eyes were like blazing coals. On the same day, in Pemberton, reverend John Purcell would report a creature that he had never seen anything like previously. Other sightings came from nearby Haddonfield and Collingsworth. There was also an incident in Moorstown. Local resident John Smith would not only witness the strange monster-like creature, but he would give chase to it before it seemingly vanished into thin air in a nearby pit. He would later describe the creature as being around three feet high with long black hair over its entire body.  A little later on the same day, in Springside, a trolley car operator noticed a bizarre figure crossing over the tracks ahead of him. He would later describe it as being like a winged kangaroo with a long neck. A little later that evening, Joseph Mans would discover the dead body of his puppy, seemingly the victim of an animal attack. He would also discover strange footprints around the buildings which housed his chickens. The following day, at around 1 a.m. on January 21 in Camden, several members of the Black Hawk Social Club heard a most bizarre sound outside. When the noise came again, this time much closer at the back window of the club, one of those inside turned to see a monstrous-looking creature staring inside at them. The creature remained where it was for several moments before it turned and disappeared, making the chilling screaming sounds as it did so. Around an hour later, in Haddon Heights, a trolley passenger witnessed a similarly bizarre creature through the window. They soon alerted the other passengers who all turned in the same direction and saw a strange flying creature overhead. When the car came to a stop, the winged figure appeared to circle them from above before unleashing a terrible hissing noise and flying off into the distance. The conductor of the trolley would later state the creature appeared similar to a kangaroo with a long neck and a head that was hideous. Even in the darkness, the creature appeared black and its wingspan was relatively wide. Another appearance of the Jersey Devil was reported a short time later in Trenton when the horse carrying William Cromley suddenly went into a panic. When he climbed down from the cart, he witnessed a beast of fur and feathers which appeared to be as large as an average dog and had large, sparkling eyes. A little while later, also in Trenton, Mr. Whedon was brought from sleep by the sound of what he thought was someone trying to break into his home. As he approached the front windows, he was suddenly aware of the sounds of wings flapping outside his house. Upon opening the front door a short time later, you saw hoof prints on the ground outside. Further investigations by the local council would discover similar prints around the entire town. More sightings of the Jersey Devil and thoughts about what it might be up next. Weird Darkness is now partnering with Paranormality Magazine. 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Even trolley cars ran with armed guards, in case further sightings of the Jersey Devil occurred. In Burlington, at a little after 6 a.m., a local resident saw a bird-like feathered creature in an alley near her home. From her perspective, it appeared as though the strange creature was about to jump into the air. She remained where she was for several minutes, so frightened she couldn't even scream. She would eventually find the strength to turn and run back into her house to awaken her youngest son as he was the only other member of the family still at home. Although the creature had gone by the time they returned to the alley, there were several hoof prints in the snow that had recently been made. Several other sightings came a short time later from Mount Holly. Job Shin would claim to have seen a creature with a horse-like head, long hind legs with claws and big wings. Even more disturbing, when it landed, it walked as a human would. William Cronk, on the other hand, would spot a similar looking creature flying over the top of his home and garden. In Westville, two women were attending a meeting when they happened to turn their attention to the snowy scene outside the window. However, what they saw shocked them both. On the snow-covered lawn outside was the Jersey Devil. They watched for several moments before the figure flew off into the air. A short time later in the West Collingsworth region of the state, two men saw a strange creature sitting on the roof of a friend's house. They at first believed it to be an ostrich, but after the fire service aimed a stream of water toward it, they realized it was in fact the Jersey Devil. What made the incident even more disturbing was the fact that instead of fleeing, the creature turned and flew toward the witnesses. The crowd that had now gathered began to throw anything they could find at the winged aggressor until it eventually did turn and head into the distance. Mary Sorbinsky was inside her house when she could suddenly hear the desperate cries of her dog.   Mary would call the police, notifying them of the attack. Patrol officers arrived at the property shortly after, by which time a large crowd of around a hundred people had gathered. All around them were sounds of screeching and howls. Above them, shadows of something flying through the clouds were seen. The officers would attempt to shoot the creature, but all of their bullets appeared to miss their target. Shortly after, the noise ceased and the creature was gone. The day after Sorbinsky's encounter came even further sightings. At a little after 2 a.m. on the 22nd of January, the residents of a home awoke to hear something moving around on the roof. Only two hours later, Louis Stair, a local policeman, would see a creature similar to the Jersey Devil seemingly drinking from a horse trough. As many others had described it, it had the head and body of a kangaroo, antlers like a deer and bat wings. Indeed, things became so bad that many schools in the area were temporarily shut, as did many offices. And those that remained open found that many of their employees rang them with sudden illnesses that forced them to stay at home. What is also interesting, although we won't delve into it here, is that the state of Pennsylvania also experienced sporadic sightings during the opening weeks of January. And while there is no proof that it was the same creature that was terrorizing New Jersey, it is highly likely that it was. Of course, it is equally likely that there was and perhaps is more than one of the Jersey Devil creatures. Whatever the case, the regular almost daily sightings of the Jersey Devil in the opening weeks of 1899 suddenly came to a stop. They would, however, begin again, although much less regular as the 20th century began. While walking his usual patrol beat around New Jersey one evening in January 1909, James Sackville, a young police officer, claimed to see the Jersey Devil come out of an alleyway and into the street in front of him. He would withdraw and fire his revolver toward the creature, but according to his report it would spread its wings and disappear into the night sky. Although the Sackville sighting wasn't common knowledge among the local population, a flood of sightings soon came in. Shortly after Sackville's sighting, a report would come from the postmaster of Bristol, a town in Pennsylvania on the border with New Jersey, E.W. Minster. According to Minster, an eerie, almost supernatural sound awoke him shortly after 2 a.m. It appeared to be coming from the banks of the Delaware River. Upon looking out of his window, he could see a strange creature like a large crane flying over the icy water. It seemed to have a strange glow to it and made the sound again confirming to Minster it was the sound that had awoken him. Shortly after, it would vanish. On January 19, Nelson Evans and his wife would report a large creature on their roof. The description was bizarre, to say the least, with features of a horse, a dog, and a crane, as well as huge wings. Several days later, in the middle of the day, Mrs. White claimed to see the creature huddled in the corner of the yard while she retrieved clothes from the washing line. Her screams brought her husband to the door who claimed he could see spurting flames coming from the creature. It would leap over the fence to the garden and disappear. Shortly after came another sighting, one witnessed by hundreds. Although much more sporadic, the sightings continued throughout the 1900s. In 1927, while changing a flat tire on his taxi cab, a driver would witness a winged creature leap onto the roof of his vehicle and pound it violently. He climbed into his car and drove away as fast as he could. In August 1930, at the Leeds Point in May's Landing, multiple berry pickers witnessed a strange creature flying over and through the fields. In 1951, a report would come from a group of children of seeing the Jersey Devil in Gibbs Town. Several more sightings came in later the same evening in the same area. In 1993, Forest Ranger John Irwin claimed to be driving alongside the Mullica River. Out of nowhere, a six-foot winged creature stood in the road in front of him. After remaining still for several moments, what Irwin is certain he saw was the Jersey Devil turning away from him. It ran into the forest at the side of the road. Sightings of the Jersey Devil would continue into the latter decades of the 20th century. In 1972, for example, on a street named Green Tree Road that went through several towns in the southern part of the state, a woman traveling toward the town of Glasburrow, Mary Christensen would suddenly notice a bizarre creature in her rear-view mirror. She would later state that the creature had a horse-like head and legs similar to a goat. However, more worryingly, it stood upright as a human would with a pair of leather-like wings spanning each side. Christensen would guess that the bizarre animal was around 25 feet from her vehicle at the time of the sighting. Little else is known of the sighting other than Christensen left the area and the creature behind with alacrity. Local media would pick up on the incident, though, and it remains in circulation online and among like-minded researchers. Although many sightings of the Jersey Devil are around the Pine Barrens region of the state, if this sighting is credible and accurate, it would suggest once again that this strange creature, whatever it might one day prove to be, can perhaps travel further distances than we might currently think. If we return to the Pine Barrens area, though, we can examine one of the most chilling incidents involving the Jersey Devil of relatively recent times. The first of these occurred in 1980 in the Wharton State Forest, which is pretty much the center of the region. On the day in question, a forest ranger, Alan McFarlane, received a call to attend a farm that sat close to the forest. When he arrived there, he discovered that all of the farmer's pigs had been butchered during the night. Even more disturbing was the fact that each of the back of the pig's heads had been gnarled at and eaten. What's more, most of the unfortunate pigs had deep scratch marks on their backs. This appeared to McFarlane that some beast had clawed to their backs while eating the brains of the pigs, especially as no other part of the body contained any wounds whatsoever. What is particularly chilling about this incident, one that McFarlane claimed was one of the most morbidly intriguing he has ever witnessed, is that it remains unexplained and unsolved. It is perhaps one of the more credible cases for some kind of strange and aggressive animal roaming around the New Jersey woodland. Several years later, another unnerving incident was reported. On the day in question, a group of friends who were camping in the Pine Barrens Woodland as part of a dirt bike riding holiday were riding around the woodland. Suddenly, and for no reason, each of their bike engines suddenly stalled, bringing their vehicles to a stop. At the same time, each of the group heard a fear-inducing scream coming from the woodland around them. Although it appeared to be a considerable distance away, it was something not human, but not like any animal any of them had heard before. Initially, the men forgot about their bikes and ran from the scene back to their campsite. They would return a little later to retrieve the bikes, with some of them opting to leave the forest and return home. Those that remained would hear the terrible screaming sounds later on during the night. Whether those cries belonged to the Jersey Devil remains open to debate. Around the same time, the owner of the Smithville Inn, Fran Coppola, had her own encounter with the New Jersey Devil. As she was emptying rubbish outside, she suddenly noticed a large shadow pass over her from above. When she turned her attention to the sky, she could see a large winged creature above her. Although she didn't manage to capture a picture of the strange winged figure, she would go on record with her belief that what she witnessed was indeed the Jersey Devil. In October 2015, Dave Black would claim to have witnessed the Jersey Devil making its way across a New Jersey golf course. Furthermore, Black managed to snap a picture of the elusive beast. He would speak to his encounter to nj.com, claiming to be driving past the golf course along Route 9 in Galloway when something strange captured his attention. Black turned to what he at first thought was a llama. He kept the strange creature in his sight for a few moments. It was then that it spread out leathery wings and flew off over the golf course. Black would make it clear that he was not seeking any kind of monetary compensation for the picture. He was looking to see if anyone could explain the sightings in a more rational way. When pressed on the issue, Black would insist the picture was not a hoax. The wings of the creature are clearly visible, as are what appears to be horns on its head. Some explanations of it being a pinata suspended on strings, however, appear to fall short. No strings are visible, and furthermore, there would appear to be nowhere to attach the strings to. He offered he had considered the picture might show a small land mammal, possibly captured by a large owl. Black, however, has his own thoughts. He would state, I think I saw a large flying mammal about the size of a deer. It does appear as bizarre as the picture looks that Black's photograph is genuine. Whether it's one day proven to be a hoax or not, only time will tell. I'll link to the photo in the show notes so you can take a look at it for yourself. The Jersey Devil, if only in people's minds, is apparently alive and well. So what should we make of the legends of the Jersey Devil? As we have seen, like all legends, they are a mixture of both fact and hearsay, recorded information and the differing retelling of accounts. There are several interesting points of the legends to consider, though. Perhaps not least the similarities to the previously mentioned Spring-heeled Jack sightings of 1800s London. Although they do not match the many descriptions from sightings over the years, it is also interesting that the descriptions of the Jersey Devil at birth were of a reptilian. While this description is likely describing the likeness of the Devil, given the number of sightings of reptilians, it is still something worth noting. Also, the connection to old pagan rituals and esoteric knowledge is interesting. Such thought outside the accepted norms of the Quaker society was frowned upon. This is much the same in any social setup. Those who operate beyond these boundaries are seen as crazy, eccentric, and at worst, evil. Was the Jersey Devil a way to keep the population in line? Or is it possible that the Jersey Devil, whatever it might be, has been native to this area long before the pilgrims and settlers came ashore from Europe? Perhaps this strange creature that befuddled and terrorized the local population was connected to Daniel Leeds for no other reason than to label him and his ideas evil, and in so doing providing an explanation for the worried masses, as well as issuing a warning to others who might choose to indulge in such evil practices as Daniel Leeds? Whatever the real truths under the stories, the sightings continue and will look more closely at some more of those sightings when Weird Darkness returns.  Absolutely free. Every other month, I'm filming an unboxing video of the newest creepy crate that I get in the mail, and then I'm boxing it all back up and giving it away by random drawing to someone subscribed to the Weird Darkness email newsletter. And before I close up the box for good, I might toss in a couple of Weird Darkness goodies as well for good measure. You can keep the creepy crate for yourself or give it away to a weirdo friend or family member. 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There, where a ghostly mist drifts across the cedar swamps and the unearthly cry of some unseen creature can be heard piercing the stillness of the dark forest, few disbelievers can be found. Whether it's deep in the Pine Barrens or deep in our collective unconscious, one thing is certain, the Devil still lurks in New Jersey, and most likely always will. Here are a few true accounts of people who believe they have seen the legendary monster. Mary writes Sir Christensen This has haunted me since it happened in 1972. I was a senior at what was then Glassboro State College. I had heard about the Jersey Devil when I came to South Jersey, but being from North Jersey, a different world, I thought I was far too sophisticated to believe in such humbuggery. One winter night, I was driving to Glassboro from Blackwood on Green Tree Road. At the time, the road was flanked by orchards and farms. There were few houses, and there was hardly any development. I was completely sober and awake when I caught a glimpse of something in my rearview mirror. Curious as to what it could have been, I slowed down to take a gander. It was dark out, but moodle enough that I had no trouble at all discerning the upright figure of a creature crossing the road from one side to the other, roughly 25 feet behind my car. The figure stood taller than a man by far and had thick conscious, similar to a goats, supporting its nearly human-looking torso and huge woolly head. It moved heavily and didn't seem at all disturbed by my being there. I didn't linger long enough to see much more. I hit the gas and flew to the mansion park apartments in the borough. So petrified was I that I slept the rest of the night in the car, unwilling to get out in the same darkness that had introduced me to the Jersey Devil. Never again from that day on have I ridden on Green Tree Road day or night that I haven't gotten the heebie-jeebies just thinking about that winter night so long ago. From Keith, I spent a lot of time in the Pine Barrens when I was growing up in New Jersey. It had my share of strange experiences. When I was about 13, I went camping along near Hampton Furnace. I had a bow with me and went looking for a rabbit dinner about an hour before sundown. Something started following me back in the trees. It tailed me back to my camp and circled while I cooked my dinner. This kept up until about two hours after dark and let me tell you it was one dark night. I finally decided that my visitor had moved on and crawled into my tent. When I just started to calm down, I heard a foot stomp down right behind my tent. I got all set to jump out when this thing, whatever it was, started screaming. I would compare the volume of the scream to a large truck's horn. I couldn't decide what to do. I had my bow and knife, but they didn't seem like much. After several blasts, it just stopped. I didn't hear a sound except my heart for about an hour. I was sure that if I stuck my head out of that tent, I'd lose it. In the morning, I could find no tracks in the Pine Needles. To this day, I still don't like sleeping intents. I'd rather take my chances in the open. From Kelly. As a native of Cape May County, I've had the typical ride-a-passage trip to the Pine Barons, the legendary home of the Jersey Devil. This Jersey girl went to Cape May County Technical High School, which sponsored trips to the Pine Barons for good grades in certain classes. I was one of the fortunate students to go three times during my four-year career at CMCT. Each time I went on this trip, my canoe was followed by a heavy-footed thing. With each step, I heard branches snap under its feet, hooves. Every 10 minutes or so, I could hear deep, beastly growls that did this very day give me the creeps. Being in a canoe and on a class trip didn't afford me much opportunity to flee in terror, so I stuck it out for three years. Every year it was the same. During my sophomore year, I was pretty confident about my canoeing skills, so I didn't look over my shoulder much. I went canoeing with a friend of mine when we came across a bag that had been torn open and gone through. Around it were prints on the ground that looked something like a horse's hoof only bigger.  I nearly flipped the canoe. We left, leaving whatever it was out there behind, or so I thought. It seemed to follow us. Every time we stopped or paused, it got closer to the river. We pushed on. Then, worse came to worse, as we tipped the canoe. I heard the thing running behind us and thought for sure we were dead. Then we rided our canoe and got into it as fast as humanly possible. We finally made it out to safety, sun fried to a crisp, missing all of our valuables and most of our clothes, but never happier to be on shore. We packed up our bus and left. As we were leaving, I rested my head on the window and saw a little cottage. I looked at it until the bus was about to pass it and saw a woman. She looked back at me and I could see her skin was torn and bleeding. After the bus passed, she vanished. Scared me so badly I wouldn't go into the woods for a year. From Sunny Z. Let me tell you of a sighting of the Jersey Devil. I was driving up Route 9 in Bayville at around 10pm. There were two cars in front of me and we were traveling about 35 miles per hour. To the right of Route 9 is a mini mall type building with woods behind it. To the right is all woods. All of a sudden I saw this big thing running across Route 9. It looked like one of the classic pictures of the Jersey Devil. It had no tail, no fur, its ribs showed and it had a long odd head with short ears that laid flat. It almost was 10 feet tall. I noticed it because the first car stepped on its brakes, as did the second car. When I looked ahead, I saw this thing galloping across Route 9 and straight into the woods. I was not really scared because it didn't register yet. I stopped to mail something in the mailbox about 300 feet from the main road and I saw a child's shirt, shorts and one sneaker lying on the ground. I mailed my letter, ran into my car and laid rubber all the way home. I was certain that I had seen the Jersey Devil. No one believes me. They say it was a deer. I have never seen a deer that big, that fast or that weird looking in my life. What is really creepy is that the other two people driving in front of me stepped on their brakes, so they must have seen it too, from Megan. I actually have two stories about the Jersey Devil. The first one is my own experience. As a little kid, my parents took my family camping every summer around the Pine Barrens. One night, as we all slept in a big tent, I woke up to the sound of what to me was like a woman screaming. It was a blood-curdling scream over and over again, but I was the only one awake. I thought being the naive child I was that a woman was being attacked by a wolf. I don't know where I got that conclusion, but it must have been from the screams. No one believed my story, ever. As I got older, I became more interested in the Jersey Devil legend. Many of the stories were people talking about the screams they hear in the pines at night. As they described them, I got chills because I knew what they were talking about. A few years ago, I was talking to my uncle who was from Pomona, and he compared what I described to what he also heard growing up in the pines. This leads me to my other story, which is his experience. He said that when he was growing up, he had this dog that would stay by him all the time as he played out in the woods and fields around his house. One day while he was on his porch, he could hear those same screams coming from deep in the woods, and his dog ran out of sight after the noise. Apparently, the screams got louder, and the dog scrambled back to the porch with his tail between his legs and never left the porch again. As hard as he tried, my uncle could not get his once faithful dog to follow him into those woods. So maybe this isn't any hard evidence, but it sure as heck is weird. There's no doubt in my mind that something exists out there. Thanks for listening. If you liked the show, please share it with someone you know who loves the paranormal or strange stories, true crime, monsters, or unsolved mysteries like you do. You can email me anytime with your questions or comments at darren at WeirdDarkness.com. Darren is D-A-R-R-E-N. WeirdDarkness.com is also where you can find information on any of the sponsors you heard about during the show. Find all of my social media, listen to audiobooks I've narrated, sign up for the email newsletter, find other podcasts that I host, including Church of the Undead, visit the store for Weird Darkness merchandise, and more. WeirdDarkness.com is also where you can find the Hope in the Darkness page if you or someone you know is struggling with depression or dark thoughts. Also on the website, if you have a true paranormal or creepy tale to tell, you can click on Tell Your Story. You can find all of that and more at WeirdDarkness.com. All stories on Weird Darkness are purported to be true unless stated otherwise, and you can find links to the stories or the authors in the show notes. Legends of the Jersey Devil was written by Marcus Louth for UFO Insight, and Mark and Mark for Weird New Jersey. Now that we're coming out of the dark, I'll leave you with a little light. Revelation 20 verse 2, and he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who was the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And a final thought, sympathy for the devil? I don't think so. God from the movie The Jersey Devil. I'm Darren Marlar. Thanks for joining me in the Weird Darkness.