Hello everybody and welcome back for our final session of the day and what a session it is going to be. So we've just been spending the last five minutes trying to get everybody lined up and sorted out. But I have to say I am so looking forward to this session, which is going to be all around Gen AI and the student experience. And we are going to have some students join us in just a minute. But before they do, let me introduce our three panelists and who are going to run the session. So that's going to give me a bit of a break.  And now these three are, I'm sure, not strangers to to the group here at all. First of all, we have Sue Hi Sue Sue Beckingham, who's a principal lecturer and the LTA lead in computing and addition to teaching at both undergraduate and postgraduate level. She has an academic development leadership role where she provides support and guidance related to learning teaching and assessment. And in 2017 she was awarded a national teaching fellowship. She's also a fellow and executive committee member of the staff and Education Development Association. And we have Peter Hi Peter Peter Hartley. Hi has had a long career as an academic lecturer and professor of education development. He's now working as an independent consultant. He works on online learning materials while maintaining his profile in educational strategies and associated evaluations, research and publications. And then we have got Louise Drum. Hi Louise. Great to see you. Louise is an associate professor in the Department of Learning and Teaching Enhancement at Edinburgh Napier University. She's a senior fellow of the Higher Education Academy and a fellow of the staff and Education Development Association. And you're all very welcome. And I am now going to hand over into your extremely capable hands. Thank you. Thank you very much for Sharon. Can we bring the students to the stage please? That's wonderful. Okay. So I'm going to start off the proceedings by introducing the students. This is a student panel as you can see from the program. So starting with Alex Walker from Sheffield Hallam University. He's undertaking a master's in finance. And then we have Frankie Wardale. He was a second year student and he's undertaking a degree in psychology. And then we have Alejandra Rodrigo Sosa. She's a PhD student third year in bioinformatics. And we have Amparo Guimine Rio and she's a final year student undertaking biomedical science. Unfortunately, our fifth student is unable to attend Mothio from the University of Kent, which is a shame. So we're going to start off the proceedings by asking Peter to explain this concept map. Peter is the king of concept maps. And let me just share my screen. This is a concept map that we've been using. Sue and I have been using for about six months now. We're both very heavily involved in the Education Development Association. And so the context for this is when chat GPT exploded. We thought that they needed to education developers all across the UK needed to know what was happening with chat GPT and generative AI. And so we ran a couple of webinars for them. And we then got various invites to go to universities around the country and we're still getting invites to go and talk to folk about about what's happening to this technology. How is it developing what it's based on? And of course covering a lot of things that we talked about already this in today about the issues of bias and hallucinations, etc, etc. And this is the slide we tend to use as our final point of discussion. Where do we go from here? And we've used it as a point of discussion to get folk in the audience to say, well, how much is your institution doing to help people prepare for generative AI? And if you look across that diagram, most organizations now that we have found that we've talked to are doing something about regulations and procedures, often using things like the Russell group for principles, etc. Most higher education institutions are doing something about professional development. Are they doing it for all staff though? Question mark, because as all staff will be affected by this development, whether we like it or not, and have the institutions got the appropriate technical development and support. And we're not sure that they all have. So institutions do seem to be working on the left hand side of this diagram. But we think there's also real opportunities for institutions to spread out, get involved in consultations, collaboration, co-creation towards the right hand side of this diagram. Is there a collaborative sandpit, the idea of a sandpit, the idea of a development area where people can come together, academics from different areas, academics and students trying to collaborate? Because none of us really know where this technology is heading, so we're all kind of novices to some degree. And what about student engagement? What are the institutional plans for student engagement? And as yet, I don't think we've hit an institution that's got all of these ducks in a row that's hitting all these buttons. But things are changing, you know, in the six months or so that we've been doing these kind of webinars and what have you, we've noticed obviously increasing numbers of staff getting involved, increasing use of technology. But on the other hand, really chat GP, chat GPT is a technology that most people have used, not much perhaps experimentation around other solutions, other possibilities and very little use of images, which we think is a bit sad, because as previously said and today, stereotypes abound in generative AI and we see it as a mechanism actually for unveiling some of those stereotypes, for actually getting staff and students to discuss them very much as the previous speaker, Tarsen, was talking about in terms of the social work. So we see things are changing, but are they changing fast enough? I'll hand back to Sue and Louise. So over to Louise, because what we want to begin to share through both Louise's work and then on to our students, how we have been working in partnership with students. And whilst we've done a small amount, we still need to do more. So over to you, Louise. Thanks Sue. So I think one of the things that struck many of us, I suppose, during the last academic year was perhaps the sort of absence of student voice in a lot of the discussions that were happening. And talking back to Helen's keynote this morning, her fantastic keynote, about I suppose the decades of research in AI, not just AI, education and AI. And I think one of the interesting things for me that has happened to us all of the research previously, in my opinion, from what I've found has been very much about institutions controlling the AI, this personalization idea, and the idea that this is something that could be within a system that's in control, that we are in control of as institutions and maybe as staff members of those institutions. But what happened was these tools got thrown over the wall into the wild and students took it upon themselves to use them without our control. And I think that's something that's interesting to take on what has happened, I think, over the past year. So what we did at Edinburgh Napier University is we set up an anonymous padlet for students to tell us what they thought. So, I mean, in terms of research methodology, it's not terribly complicated. You can see here what we are asking the students. And the primary kind of agenda behind this for me was that it was anonymous and that it was absolutely watertight, that students were assured that it was anonymous and there was no link, because we didn't know what to expect in terms of people maybe admitting certain things. That QR code there, and I've got a link I can post as well, is a link to all the resources about our research project, a video that explains it a little bit more, so I won't go into it in much detail here. But we've run it twice now, so we've done data collection in spring of last year and we did it. It just finished data collection from our autumn tranche. So I just want to give you a little bit of an update in terms of where we were maybe in spring and what might be the sort of sort of more nuanced stuff that's happening now. In the springtime, we had a lot of very positive responses from students, a lot of people saying that they were using it. I think there are limitations in our data. There would be people who didn't, don't use it and therefore didn't contribute to this or maybe did use it and maybe ways that may not have been 100% ethical but weren't prepared to admit that. But in the whole, most people were hugely positive about it, about its effectiveness. They were looking at it in terms of having conversations with it, helping their understanding, using as a dialogue partner and most damning of all for us of course as they were saying, we got fast responses in comparison to talking to our tutors or emailing our lecturers. But there was a certain amount of awareness that there was limitations and inaccuracies in it as well. Fast forward now to the past six weeks, the kind of things that are coming through is quite interesting. We've got, and this links to some of the questions that came up in previous sessions, some people saying that actually, you know, I like the process of writing. I don't want my writing to be replaced. Some people saying any use is cheating. So we're getting really diverse kind of opinions now. And then other people think it should be used and there's absolutely no question that it should be used and it should be part of education. Consistent from last time round and this time round, helpful for disabled students, for neurodivergent students, massive enthusiasm and as an assistive technology. And also the idea that it expedites certain tasks like synthesizing and summarizing and searching. There were some quite plaintive posts about saying that it's not fair. I've done lots of work. And interestingly, some people concerned about outsourcing skills and maybe not talking about themselves, but talking in the abstract about are we outsourcing critical thinking and is this helpful or is this limited. So that's where we're at at the moment. I'd encourage people to maybe follow that that link that I posted. If you have any questions, please get in contact where our data set is open or methodology is open if people want to replicate this elsewhere. But that's just a kind of a snapshot of where we are at the moment. And this research was conducted co conducted with students as well. And we are doing it this time as well. And that's another thing that I would encourage getting that student voice into the actual research itself is really helpful. And that's all for me. I'll pass back to Sue. Wonderful. Thank you very much. And we're actually taking up at Sheffield Hallam. Louise has kind of offered generosity sharing all of this. And we're going to be undertaking that in a semester to and working with with students. So now to the exciting bits, we're going to ask one by one, our student panel to comment on their experience with generative AI and and to maybe say something a little bit about their involvement with their own university in terms of any partnership activities that they've been involved in. So we're going to start please with Amparo. Hi, can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Hi, I'm Amparo and I'm aiming to specialize in data science applied to neuroscience. And I started using AI tools at the same time. I started intensively studying data science on my own, which is around two months ago, which is not so long. And I have been using different types of AI tools and playing around, exploring what they could do and couldn't do for you. And in fact, I'm using them in my honours project and will be adding an attached file with the list of the AI tools I have been using and how to show that these tools do not replace my responsibilities, but rather they enhance my productivity and efficiency. But focusing on generative AI, I use them for a wide variety of tasks. Since English is not my first language, I use them to help me with any queries regarding grammar or phrasing. And in turn, this also helps me continue improving my English as well. As a neurodivergent student, for example, regarding reading papers is quite a difficult task for me since I struggle with my concentration and I misread words or not process what I'm reading properly. Sometimes this is just awful and unbearable. But summarizing, I realized that summarizing is part of the paper first with generative AI and then reading it makes these tasks much easier for me since I guess that's because what I'm reading is not new anymore, new information. These are only two examples, but of course I use it in many other ways. However, and I can't stress this enough, you need to have a good understanding of the topic you are using AI tools for because generative AI can't and won't do the job for you. And that's more or less my experience and later on I will be happy to reply to any questions you may have. Thank you Amparo, that's wonderful. Could we have Alex Walker please next? Hi everyone, my name is Alex and so I've been using chat GPT primarily in its inception, so I discovered it I think would have been, well, probably a week into when it was launched by Open AI. And since then I'd say my experience has been quite thorough. So over the duration of the time I pretty much use it as it's basically was replaced quill bot for me. So I use it as a more advanced paraphrase in my opinion whereby I can feed it the inputs I out in a certain style of voice and get the desired output. And then more recently in March of this year when GPT 4.0 was released, it's really helped me massively in terms of being able to program. So I started learning how to program last year and found that my progress was quite slow. It took me a long time getting familiar with different inputs in using the language R and Python. And using 4.0 has been a bit of a game changer whereby now if my code's gone wrong, I can input it into chat GPT, find out where I've gone wrong, make notes and essentially now it eradicates the time that I was previously spending on quite menial tasks. And it means that my coding abilities become more proficient. But over the last year really there's been two main concerns that have sort of emerged for me. And the main one being that within my faculty at university, the information from lecturers and their opinions on chat GPT are completely different. I've had some particularly within data science and analytics that believe that these tools are brilliant, much as when Google was first launched in the early 2000s, like these tools are here and they're here to help you so you can use them. And I've had others who seem that these things are almost the creation of the devil and pleased to not use them. And if you do, you will be caught and there will be reprimands. So it's really overwhelming and you feel that it's like a moral question. Are you doing something that's wrong? And then the other one is that students aren't actually being taught how to use them. So 12 months ago when it was first launched, I lived in quite a large household at university last year. And each member essentially of my household would find out that what chat GPT was and its capabilities I recall having one friend who showed me that had written an entire essay for him and he showed me that it's great. It can reference and we sat down and looked through the references and all 25 of his references didn't exist. So the problem is students aren't being taught to use these. And I think it's really important over the coming years that there are some sort of formal training, what shape or form that entails. I'm not too sure, but I definitely think that's really important right now. So I'll pass it back to Sue and Peter. Thank you Alex. Can we have Alejandra please next? Okay, can you hear me fine? Yes. Yes, okay. So my name is Alejandra and as a PhD student in bioinformatics I think I'm quite up to date with the latest advances made in AI. And especially but not limited to the use of generative AIs for both writing code and editing my texts. So my personal experience as a computational researcher, I have explored quite thoroughly multiple tools being ChatGPD the first one I ever tested. So my hopes when I started using it was to speed up my code writing and more or less in the line of what Alex has mentioned, I've actually found that my code writing has been quite substantially being sped up by the use of ChatGPD. After that first use, I started exploring other more specific AIs such as what does this code do to perform some sort of reverse engineering and help me understand and clarify specific pieces of code that maybe I wasn't too sure about how they worked and whatnot. I have also explored other generative AIs such as perplexity AI and whatnot. I found that they all have their advantages and their drawbacks but that's something that we can clarify later on in the questions. Now the thing is after using these AIs, I have arrived to a very straightforward conclusion. I believe that AIs in general are quite a very useful tool as long as you follow certain guidelines. So probably someone has done that better than I have but I believe that I can summarize this in three points. So the first one in my opinion is that as long as you can accurately work where your intentions are, you are specific, you are clear on what you're saying, then you can actually use that tool to your advantage in a quite efficient way. Now the second point I would say is you can also find the appropriate tool for your purpose. I know that we're using mostly ChatGPD here in this webinar but there's life beyond ChatGPD. There's many more AI tools so I believe that there's probably a right tool for the right purpose. And the third point that I would mention is you have to have the right expectations about what's going to be generated. Some of my colleagues here have mentioned already you cannot expect AI to do your whole job for you. So maybe this might be true on certain levels. Maybe on a first year of undergrad it might be a bit more true than on a fourth year. But definitely talking from a PhD, third year PhD level, I can say that AI's cannot do my job for me. Simple as that. No matter how hard I tried, whenever I got too specific on my coding questions, the AI grew increasingly confused to the point of repeating the exact same hallucination over and over. However, it did stay up by at least the factor of my code writing when I asked it to generate simple templates. And in a similar fashion as my colleague Amparo, I'm also not an native English speaker and I found it quite useful to sometimes rephrase my sentences in a way that's a bit more suitable for English speaking instead of following a Spanish speaking grammar that doesn't make much sense in English. So the end bit of what I'm saying is that even though I'm an alumni of Edinburgh Napier University, so I did my masters there, currently I am doing my PhD on the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, Dublin. And I have found that the policy of my university regarding AI is quite confusing. So on the one hand they have a webpage where they mention certain tools and certain guidelines on how to use them and how to not use it. But then on the other hand, they fully mention, for example, if you're trying to use AIs for your PhD thesis, they blatantly say out loud, no you can't use them, that's it. Which is a bit confusing because you're providing some guidelines on one hand and then you're just saying an entirely different thing on a different session. So it would be great if we could achieve some sort of, I don't know, standardisation above all higher education universities. So that's really big, but it would be great. And that's all I have to say for now. Thank you very much for that, that was great. And now over to you, Frankie, please. Are you muted, Frankie? We're still not getting you, Frankie. Anything else? There we go, yeah. So I'm Frankie. I am a undergraduate psychology student at Sheffield Hallam. I'm also part of the university student research team. So I'm currently leading a project on student opinions on the use of elicit, which is, if you're not familiar, it's a personal kind of research system. So it will help summarise and find articles for you. It can summarise the abstracts of the top four papers it finds. So we're looking at, it's in the development phase and we're looking at getting a small group of students to use it in an assignment, which will give proper guidance around so that they're not punished for their involvement in the study. And then we're going to get them to use it and then get their feedback. And we're really looking into and really interested in how an AI tool might affect a student's ability, key academic skills, especially with future development. So undergraduates don't have the same level of skills as a PhD student or a master's student in terms of a literature review and a literature search. So we're kind of concerned, do people rely on these tools too much if they haven't already developed the skills? Because if you already have the skills, you can use it alongside and it's a nice little interaction like that. But if you're starting out trying to learn something and you find a kind of easier way to do it or a less labour-intensive, less time-intensive way to do it, then you might just rely on that and not develop your own skills. So we're really interested in doing that. I think it's good points by all the others as well. A lot of people feel like it's cheating, especially a lot of people that I talk to, they don't know how they should use it. There's a lot of guidance from Sheffield Hallam, but it doesn't feel right, especially with most people looking at chat and GPT, they think it's basically, it's kind of plagiarism because it's not your words, it's kind of the prompts and there's a big grey area there, especially how people feel about it. So yeah, there's definitely a lot to unpack in terms of does it affect student's abilities? Do people think it's cheating? Do people's opinions on it actually change how they use it as well and would that disadvantage them? So I'll pass back to Sue. That's wonderful. Thank you very much. And Alex is also involved in a project, aren't you working with the Learning Centre? Do you want to talk a little bit about that? Yeah, so essentially we've been, we did a research project over summer to have a look into how students are using or undergraduate students can use chat GPT to structure an assignment. And again, it was looking at their iterative process from start to finish and we found really that, again, one of the main, well my main take was to mention was the issue of them not being trained and the problems with hallucinations. So again, a student had found and they'd looked for literature that they could use within their assignment and they'd found that there were these 10 papers that they could reference and again, you search the papers and the papers don't exist, they're not there. So again, I think that's something that definitely needs to be addressed to some extent. And that's actually forming the research chapter in a book that Peter and I are co-editing with two other colleagues about the use of generative AI in higher education. That's a Cedar Outlet book that will be coming out early next year or spring-spring of next year possibly. So over to you, the audience, for some questions. I noticed there's one already from Lucy Caton. She's the new lead for the Centre of AI in Education at the University of Bolton. So you've got a big job there, Lucy, but you're asking for recommendations on how would you make effectively manage lots of different collaborations and research projects with students and across institutions It's a big, big question. In terms of Shaffield Hallam, we've got the Student Engagement Evaluation Research Group and each year we actually employ students as researchers looking at lots of different things in relation to learning and teaching and assessments, but some of these have been linked to artificial intelligence or generative AI in particular. So, having that pool of students is one way. Another way is the funding each year. We have some funding small pots of money to give academics the opportunity to undertake some sort of research and we do encourage that with students so they can apply for that. So that's a couple of examples. Do you have anything you'd like to add Louise or Peter that you're aware of? I think the things that I'd add to that is working with your student unions and indeed we do have a number of student consultants that are employed within the institution and students as partners as well. So any of the existing sort of student partnership schemes that you might have in existence already and also the other thing I would just add is being just sort of advertise what you're doing and share what you're doing openly and you never know what sort of coincidences and serendipity would bring us together and Paolo and Alejandra are two examples of that of two students who approached me because they saw a poster about our research and they've got a number of initiatives underway already just because of that. So the more you share stuff it's not that you need to organize and collaborate across the board with everybody but if we set up networks where we're kind of in contact with each other and we're all kind of members of various networks and keeping in contact and sharing what's happening I think that collaboration and cooperation is key to this but we can't organize it from above it has to be quite grassroots level. I think that institutions that have already gone quite heavily into the students as change agents and co-creation are probably at an advantage here if they make use of it but again that notion of how these initiatives get permeated across the institution because I know institutions I will not name where a really solid initiative never crosses the boundary between the departments. I was talking and that whole question of consistency between staff and departments which has come out of the presentation so far is I think really important. I was talking to a student the other day whose tutor was telling the students not to use chat GPT having just told them how they used it so that kind of elements of our hypocrisy maybe that's in the we've got a problem that's just appeared in the chat from Rosa Sadler how aware do you think students are of the bias issues in AI tools you folk obviously are your colleagues can I say something about this yes about what Rosa said from what I could hear from my peers I think they are not very much aware of the bias issues as well as they are not very much aware of characteristics specific from each AI tool for example I'm sure they don't know much about chat GPT 3.5 not having access to internet or being actualized only until 2021 because I have heard them wanting to use it for their assessments and I really think that this is something that could be also added into a guide for students to know how to use the AI tools like what each AI tool can do for you the characteristics of each of them as well as the possible bias you might find have any of your institutions really gone that far to create a general guide or do you know of any that really have cracked that actually and my colleague Alejandra and myself are working with Ruiz and the department of teaching and learning enhancement I think it was to develop a guide for students and even teachers to use for AI tools so what's the space Luiz yeah just like trying to get our experiences as a student and trying to shape them in a way that might be useful for everyone at the university because then you Sarah Purcell in the chat said brilliant comment about needing to know your topic to make effective use of AI and certainly that in a sense that's been my experience of getting to grips with this technology is it the more you know about the topic the better use you can make of GPT and all the search terms and stuff Luiz do you want to say a comment on that yes because I think one of the things that I've encountered when I've had staff who've been recently sort of introduced or experimented with generative AI tools it's because they're experts sometimes they go in and they put in a couple of prompts and what they get back is rubbish and they walk away going oh that's fine that's nothing to worry about it's not any use to me but it's probably not any use to my students either but they've got that expertise that kind of concede through the problems with it that maybe students or less expert users would not have a really long comment in the chat from Mary Jacob about an opportunity to redesign learning could we open Mary's mic and let her tell it herself is that possible doesn't look like it just give us a second it will take me a minute to give her the permission so just give us one sec okay I'll start reading her comment on the chat opportunity to redesign learning to focus on task based learning outcomes rather than content based ones so if a student should be able to carry out a task it's just a focus away from product towards process this can help avoid the risks of using AI as a proxy for learning what do the students on the panel think this could change the teaching and the learning and the assessment Mary do you want to add to that yes thank you very much Peter I think this is possibly a really good opportunity for us to do that redesign and especially if you can work with students as partners to redesign not just the assessment but the whole learning design of a module so instead of turning to these tools to produce a thing that you then submit but you didn't maybe in some cases students didn't really do the work or they didn't do much of the actual work really a learning outcome is about what you can do in a meaningful way so I'm able to write a computer program of a certain type or something like that and that might be using AI as a tool but I have the knowledge to do it I'm capable of doing this task and that might help to demotivate people from using it in a way that might bring academic integrity risks but actually help them to develop for the workplace so we're just wondering what the students in the panel what you guys think Frankie do you want to kick off and then Alessandra? Yeah no I think that's a really good idea I've always been massively in favour of changing how you educate and how you test stuff to teaching skills teaching people how to do something instead of what it should look like when it's done because you can then apply that and change it around in your own life and stuff and I was diagnosed with ADHD quite late in my A levels which meant that all through school and stuff like that the system just doesn't work for people like me and for a lot of people who don't have anything like they're not neurodivergent or anything like that it just doesn't quite work you know this whole system of it's changed definitely at uni now but GCSEs and A levels in this country they're all to do with memorisation unless you do a course workplace course and those are really rare nowadays so it doesn't really prepare you for what you need in life you don't get those critical thinking skills you don't get anything like that and you get those risks of you're looking to output something and it gives you the wrong thing and you don't know why you don't challenge that you don't do that sort of thing so yeah definitely all for more skills based learning instead of outcome based learning Hello Andrew Hi so yes of course I also agree with Frankie said I'm also really all for skills learning instead of just outcome and I think that this is a concept that has already been implemented before for example whenever we had any kind of exam that was open book exams or works that back in the time when we started using internet in the uni in universities I do still remember a time where using the internet as a resource to do your coursework or what not was still something that was still being debated so I do believe that this is kind of the natural flow of AI tools because as it's also been stated previously they are here to stay I don't I don't see a way where we can just ban them out completely from university I don't see how we can remove them so I think that the best we can do is try and find a way to use them to our own advantage and also teach the students to use them adequately so that's my take on that Anybody else want to chip in on that Alex? Yeah I would like to I'm proud of you now Alex Yes besides of what my colleague have said I would also like to say that I think it would be really nice if assessments could focus more on providing you the tools and the practice to check what you need to know or understand or learn new things because I think that's very important usually in most fields if not all of them what you know because you have studied for an exam at university that would not be sufficient and you will need to be open to learn new skills and to prepare for them so I think it's very important if we can learn at university how to do that and I think that AI tools can be taught as a good way to support that new learning Alex any comment? Yeah in support of new learning I'm completely in favour of say in terms of the programming it would have taken me years to get to where I am in terms of my proficiency I simply couldn't have done it otherwise I'd not got the access I'd not got a close friend who can programme to the level that I need to be able to now so you really have got that on hand personal assistant that's there 24-7 so yeah I'm absolutely all for it Yeah And I think if you look at the literature coming out of the organisational surveys of how many organisations are now they may not be fully fledged in going to AI but they're certainly dabbling with it and so the more you know before you get out onto the employment market about what this technology can do and more importantly what it cannot do and what its limitations are and how you can use it effectively then the better I'm not sure what time you have left soon Sorry about that I just had a coffee and fit We finished finished it to 10-2 Okay so we've got another 5 minutes Just picking up on questions of bias have come up again in the chat the idea of I don't know whether one comment there from Jason Williams I enjoyed debating topics with Google Bard and I wonder whether any of you have used that kind of to-ing and fro-ing using one of the like Bard or one of the GPTs as a kind of debating partner Anybody Yes I use Funny enough I use an AI tool that mostly for fun that's all character AI and you can create your own character and I created a fictional classmate that knows more than I do about data science so I usually debate with it the ideas I may have about my own project and it keeps suggesting me stuff I could do or different alternatives in which I could test something and most of it it's just garbage but some of them are actually useful it suggested me one time a call that I'm actually going to use for my own project and again you really need to know what you're talking about because you need to read that call, you need to think okay that makes sense I need to check it, you need to check it on the appropriate website and you need to understand the call and the arguments and if you have all the data you need and if you can make it work and then you can test it on RStudio and if it works then it's fine but still it's a very fun way and also a very useful way to have this kind of peer partner colleague that's an AI and you can just discuss topics with it because even if it's just suggesting stuff that you need to and that doesn't really make much sense even that way it can make you think of another way you haven't thought before and say okay that doesn't make sense but actually this other thing that I could think about thanks to that suggestion that's useful and I think it's also very interesting way to do the learning and support I've also heard or read that it can be useful for interview practice you can put in the job description and the competencies, skills etc that are required, desired and ask it to prompt you with some questions that might come up at interview so having that practice given the scenarios for various different skills could be helpful and Louise you've just put a comment in the chat give us an academic reference for it you want to talk about that for a minute the zone of proximal development yeah I just did that idea the proximal development of an idea of a more knowledgeable other being the way of bringing your students knowledge up to a particular level so it's quite an old theory but it's a goody, it gets rolled out but it's just embodied exactly in that of the kind of relationship with the generative AI that you're using there so it's really good I wanted to go back, there was a question in the chat from Kathy Peter, it was about what what do our colleagues here on the panel think about guides and training that students might need what might that look like actually what's interesting to know about okay, so what sort of training should you have yeah, Frankie? I think it'd be good just any kind of training really because the guidance that there at the moment, especially this is Sheffield Hallam it's very accessible but you need to go and find it, you need to be the one that takes that initiative there's nothing in we have adapt sessions which are academic development personal tuition, there's nothing that's been mentioned in those about it or anything like that that kind of seems like a perfect way to talk about AI, talk about its usage and kind of remind students of the guidelines that the uni has and how to follow those properly so I think just integrating it, not even as a separate session or just putting it into the things that already there the familiar settings that students have is probably a good way to do it so it's not something you have to go and find it's kind of shown to students yeah, and I think actually the previous session from Tarsen was a perfect example of how you could bring generative AI into a class session so that you both got the general lessons out and you got the kind of subjects and it then moved into the kind of subject specialism and it got university guidelines, I mean a session like that on every course in the country would be a real step forward I would say any other thoughts thinking about open badges and you know sort of doing something that's extra or co-curricular I guess really rather an extra curricular but yeah, trying to design it into a module for every single course is possibly the ideal way but comes with its challenges and it also links to what Catalina mentioned you know staff are already really really busy overworked etc, when are they going to have time to take up the training themselves or the trainings produced and it comes back to that allocation of time for staff development which everybody in any role needs to embrace and undertake but how can we best tackle this, I've often said that it should be actually timetabled into or working weeks, not necessarily every week but there's an opportunity there so that everybody has the opportunity to take part in it because quite often you know that again is self-directed and I've quite often seen things all that looks really interesting but I'm already busy doing other things because that time isn't spare at a given point so couple of other issues that have just come up one about are you a student worried about cheating with AI from Louise's work it doesn't seem to be that's an issue there but how important is it and the second about environmental impact whether that's come out as an issue that students are worried about pick up either of those if you would in terms of the cheating dilemma it seems to be a lot of the people that I've spoken to seems like a moral question of a lot of people feel it's almost like superiority now in not using these things and being able to think I guess they said more critically than than others so yeah it's and say what determines ethical use again I'm not particularly sure so it's I think that's something that needs to be there could be some sort of general consensus of that that would be fantastic but I mean that's almost an impossible question isn't it so I think we'll have to end there and I'll just reiterate what Louise has said and others is to continue openly sharing the things that you're finding out because we're all learning students are learning staff are learning but together you know we share this information we can learn from you know what's what's not going well but also what is going well take that forward so I'd like to thank everybody on the panel including our wonderful four students have been incredible thank you very much for participating and thank you to Peter and Louise as well and over back to you Natalie thank you thank you so much that was a fantastic session and I think it may be highlights doesn't it that actually students are looking for guidance on how to use AI critically and ethically but actually in some ways I think what we've heard from today's students is they're actually streets ahead of many of the lecturers that are teaching them and that is one of the challenges that I think maybe we face I think today's been a fascinating series of presentations and I was struck by an image in Mary's session where she had that sort of tangled like a tangled ball of string almost and we've been looking today at the sort of ethical aspects of using artificial intelligence in teaching and learning and we've kind of taken different routes through that ball of string and different lenses on all of this and the thing that I'm kind of left with is can we find and can we develop sustainable approaches that actually bring staff and students together in partnership to sort of work our way and disentangle that ball of wool as it were and develop that kind of partnership working to develop guidance to maybe explore interdisciplinary learning to look at some of those ethical conundrums that AI throws up a bit like Tarzan was explaining in his case study and how can we develop scaffolding locally that's also contextual to the different disciplines because different disciplines bring different challenges and then how do we make sure that we support ethical and inclusive practice so I think today's almost to me has been like the start of a conversation that we need to continue and there's almost that sense of we should come back next week and kind of carry on the conversation but maybe that's something we need to look at how we facilitate that but those are just my initial thoughts Sharon I don't know what your thoughts are Thanks Natalie I was trying to sort of jot down a few notes from the absolutely fantastic sessions that we've had today and quite apart from the initial notion of principled refusal I suppose one thing that has really made sense to me today I think is around just hope for the future and I think that that really shone through today and then as you said the need to have these spaces for conversations it came up in a number of different guys throughout the day I think Helen was talking about conversations we were talking about debate we were talking about reflection and then I think towards the end there Louise put it very beautifully talking about networks and collaborations and I think something that she said really meant something to me that it has to come from the grassroots and not from the top down so I think that was just lovely and I think that those are the key messages that I'm going to take home with me but I agree we need to have more of these conversations but not next week I've got too much on Absolutely it's Christmas isn't it and just thank you everyone for coming along today and thank you very much to all of our speakers I think the quality of the presentations today just absolutely superb and lots to really take away and reflect upon and also lots of practical things that we can actually take and apply to our own practice which I think is always a real bonus isn't it to come to something like today put time aside and think you can take things away and actually start to apply them in your own context so thank you very much and I also really want to thank Kerry and Katie and the old team who've been working fearlessly in the background trying to keep things going and I know it's been maybe a little bit of a difficult day with the technology but thank you Kerry and Katie for supporting us all and helping to make today happen I have to say that I've been so busy in the run-up today that I really just rocked up I'll be completely honest I'm sure you could tell it but yeah Kerry and Katie and all the team working so hard behind the scenes Thank you both and thank you so much for co-chairing and just to say that we'll be sending so the recordings from today you'll already find a lot of them in the platform already so on the main agenda page if you scroll to the bottom to the section called media you'll see that I think everybody's up to I think TASMs now are in there and the rest will be made available shortly after maybe a bit of delay for the closed captions to be generated but they will appear eventually so do take a look at those and then any of the speakers that have shared resources or shared their presentations with us will send those on to everybody that's attended over the next couple of days so you'll get everything from today shortly and later in this week so just from us and the alt team a huge thank you to everyone for coming to all of our fantastic speakers who, as Natalie and Sharon said have done such a fantastic job today and especially to our students this afternoon who did a fantastic job not only dealing with their own technical issues getting into the session but then also answering so many questions and dealing with that so well so thank you all so very much that's it from us and from the alt team and hopefully we'll see you in another alt event very very soon take care everyone and I shall disappear and allow Natalie and Sharon to finish the day Sharon's disappeared so just to say thank you very much again everyone and keep an eye out for further events from old in the new year just a reminder too to think about potential case studies that you might be able to submit to alt around applying the alt ethical framework and again there is the alt award at the alt C annual conference for the best case study around that so get your thinking hats on and think about what you're doing locally that you can maybe submit to that or just sharing those case studies I think that's what we really relish isn't it the ability to see what our colleagues are doing in practice what we can learn from that and how we can share our own context so thank you again and with that I'll pass to Sharon so I'm just going to say goodbye happy Christmas bye


Yeah take it off Micah. You'll be eating the rhythm of the night. Those were the reactions you needed some Corbin. I'm Rick! Ha, false on Instagram! Instagram! It's so itchy. Parental abuse. Mmm. Show of it. Smells like chicken. Today we're acting to a food video. I hope you like it. I've seen this guy. Yay. We love this guy. He's the best. He's seen this guy. Best ever food review show. This is called Sweet Indian Street Food. Sweet Indian Street Food. There's a whole list of songs that give white people hyped. That's one of them. That's one of them. That's one of them. That's a white people hyped song. Sweet Indian Street Food Tour in North India. Yes. India's dessert capital. Wait. Unless North India. Bengal would be considered West. East, yeah. That's where the Mishis are, folks. I think every state would probably be like, that's wrong. We've got our own thing there, but I'm partial to Bengal. Why's that? You know why. Okay. Here we go. Love you. I'm such a bad boy. I'm going to have to exercise twice tomorrow. That's jellybee. There's one type of food that absolutely cannot be overlooked. Dessert. And here, they do dessert unlike any place I've seen before. Oh, man. This whole thing is just full of sugary. This is like my kind of hot chocolate right here. Every region in India does dessert a little different. The pesto? There's no doubt that they- Did he say Joe pork? Anywhere they can put Joe pork. I thought he said Joe pork. Checking out some super simple classic street food sweets. He's making a gigantic one for us. I'm waiting there. All the way to some crazy complex dessert preparations. Oh, sad pesto. Pesto ice cream. I said I'll come across ingredients that I've never even heard of. This is gold.  See, everyone is gold.  Today we'll find out if Joe pork is the real dessert capital. It's quite a different place. Yeah, maybe. Joe pork native, fashion blogger and food lover Archana is going to be my guide today. She's done a bit of modeling too. I do a bit of modeling. Do you know like when people go before and after a photo? I'll just do the before photo. And when you're going to after a photo? Where are we right now? It's the last time I've ever wanted to. I see a bunch of tourists. And a lot of people carrying stuff on their head. I really like that. What does Joe pork mean? It's like a bun. It's like a bun. It's a bun. What is a bun? It's like boiling boiled milk. And it's turned into lava, a paste sort of thing. Are we going to try them today? Yeah, we should. Wow, awesome. Tray Vishwara Hotel is a landmark in Jodhpur Central Market. Oh, and it's not even a hotel. This place, is it more famous for desserts or for being a hotel? Obviously desserts. It's a hotel right here. For the last 90 years, this place has been crafting the perfect dessert menu. What are we here for? We are going to eat roughly. This is boiled milk. After we get the boiled milk a bit heavy, we add sugar on the whisk. Okay, let's dish it up. This rindy is made with milk that's been boiled until becoming thick. This is called mawa in Hindi. Sugar is added for sweetness with a splash of rose water mixed with cardamom on top. I don't know. I don't like rose water with sugar. So it's like very rich, creamy, and then chunky. Take a nice big bite. You like it? I would not like that. That's actually fantastic. It never disgusts me. It's a little like cottage cheese, but sweet. The flavor, it's creamy, sweet. It almost tastes like a little bit of honey. But there's no honey. But there's no honey. Bottom's up. We're just getting started. With so many sweets available, this place has a huge kitchen prep area. And we're getting a behind the scenes look at what they're making next. Yeah. We have come to the preparation rooms at this hotel. Again, it's not a real hotel. But if it was, this is the room I was staying in. What is this called? Michelal Fait. Have I mentioned that Jogpur loves dairy? Here they start with mawa, then add a slew of ingredients including char and saffron. That's so saffron. Which gives it its vibrant light color. This cooks in a warm tone. It becomes the paste you see now. This is my offering to your team. What do you think? Yes. Thank you. Once the ball is formed, it gets a literal stamp of approval. It's beautiful. Essentially, they kind of stamped it here. Do you think we could all eat one together? Guys, could you please join me in eating one of these for my show? Cheers. Yeah? Cheers. It's very thick. Almost like Play-Doh, like a soccer play-doh. A ton of saffron flavor coming through. And to get it so fresh, right from the ball, it's themselves. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Well, be careful crossing this tree. Where are we headed right now? We're going to Port Jalebi. I know Jalebi. It's like one of my favorite desserts.  That's magical. It's this basic flour, batter, sugar. Is there something special about this place?  It's the third generation. And there's a line. Wow, this place is popular. How are you doing? For me? Yeah. Wow, that's a big one. I think it's gigantic one for us. They're great. Very good for Jalebi. More. It's a much better one. They're terrible if they're cold. Yeah. It's so much better when you get the mic fresh right out of it. That one is nuts. Look at this. Thank you, sir. I want one right now. Huge Jalebi. The biggest he made. Yeah. See, it's like more chewy than crunchy. Very brittle. I've never had it this way. It's so thin.  Let's go for it. Yeah. It's so juicy. Crunchy. When you take a bite, the sugar gushes out of it. That is just straight guilty pleasure. I'm such a bad boy. Apparently, they're really good with ice cream. How much tomorrow? I get it again. Me too. Added to one of the most iconic confectionaries, perhaps in all of India, Jodhpur sweets. That's not that far. Yeah, it's Jodhpur. With the same name has sprung up all over the place. It's that good. When you come in here, you've got a sweet tooth. Okay.  You're sad.  What do you come in here and try? She goes straight to it. That's so sweet. I think we have a ton of here. Yeah. You're saying this is so sweet, so delicious. It can cure any loneliness or heartbreak. All right, cheers. Did I eat it? Mm-hmm. It tastes like dry fruit mixed with molasses, maybe. And that's been a long tradition in India. Having the silver on top. So much to choose from. Are trying to recommend some of the most unique treats offered here. What is that? Rose? It's just around the corner. It's basically an almond sweet. Is it actually rose flavoring? Yes. I must say India is the only place I've been to where they season desserts with flowers. Which other one do you think? This is the famous sweet of Jodhpur. Oh, I think we met Ladoos. Ladoos is actually what they call... Oh, beautiful presentation. Oh yeah, I think we start with the classic and then we'll work our way up to this rose one. Though these balls look somewhat similar, they're pretty much going to be more different. Ladoos means ball, and the robbery Ladoos starts with a mawa gram flour bread that's then strained through this skimmer spoon, creating tiny fried little balls. Those get tossed into a sweet syrup, saffron, and cardamom blend.  Now to you, is this a one-biter? No. Two-biter? Yeah. Are you ready? Cheers, a two-biter ball. No, no, four of them. Whoa, that is so rich, so shimmery, kind of crumbly. There's plenty of balls in here. It is luxurious. Is this what kings would eat back in the day? Yeah. I feel like the kings I eat this. Mmm. Oh my god. The rose vada ladoo has a very different version. The oldest one here is the last ball. It's blended and blended almonds and sugar. That's right. This big ball of paste consists mainly of almonds. Then they pile on roasted almonds and a rose syrup. Mix it up, pull it up, then even more rose syrup. Oh, my god. Dry rose petals.  It's dashed off. Give me a dash of your one. Does the ladoo mean ball? Yeah. Do people ever say like, you don't have the ladoos to mess with me? Does anyone say that? No. That guy's got quite a set of ladoos. Let's try it out. I don't want my hair. I want to go on this. Oh, very sweet, obviously. It's kind of similar texture, but has some crunch in there with the nut. But man, rose flavoring that is out there has really perfumed kind of aroma to it that you taste up in your nose. Are you still working on that? No. She's like, what? Delicious, I love it. But that's not why we came here, is it? We're here for a super secret dessert. But first, the owner is showing me how all this sweets making is possible. Every floor above their main room or they're serving the dessert is just full of pots and pans and cooking different things going on. Look at this place. How many people are working here creating all this stuff? I don't know. 8,200. But then you come up the elevator and you can see there's so many tasks to be done. Now, here they're making rossolla here they're making mava. Mava. So this whole machine they put normal milk in here. When it's solid enough you just dump it into here. I would love to try it. This is a kind of common ingredient here mava, right? Read it with the hand it's very hot. It is. It's very hot. It's kind of sticky. There it is.  You try it together? Let's do it. Wow. It is like the third part of cottage cheese with sugar added. So it's a little sticky as you chew it. This is sweet something that goes along with all the beauty. We give it a shot. It's really hot. That is delicious. Wow. Thank you very much. We came here for one of the most unique desserts in all of India. It's called Pista Pandalore which some ingredients I've never met before. What is this one? It looks like caramelized onions. No, it's not. It's not. Look at this. It's so nutty. It looks like a version of onions. Maybe there's some sugar mixed in there with them. Before we cook it we're going to just sample it a little bit. Can you get it in there? Oh, very perfuming. Come on, take a breathe. One of the most complex but satisfying sweets I've ever discovered. You can't appreciate this food without understanding what goes into it. First, they need to make the pot or green portion of the dessert. It starts with cashews and pistachios that have been soaked in water then ground into a paste. Then they prepare the wok. Are they even going to try this syrup, huh? Yeah, this is the syrup. Oh. I guess I did learn a thing or two in food college. Then they add ghee and the ground nut paste. Pistachio powder brings out more pistachio flavor and eventually the whole concoction becomes a vibrant green paste. Oh, that is a beautiful shade of green. While that cools down we make the masala or the red part. Rose petals, pistachios, roasted almonds, Mishri or sugar crystals, poppy seeds and their own luxurious pan chutney. What is going on here? This is gold. It's not gold. It's silver leaves and it's mixed with sugar syrup and saffron. All right. My wish to not come true. After it's mixed and settles for an hour, it looks like this. How many kilograms of desserts have you secretly done all? I have to take a sweet before selling it. Hey. I feel that. Now, the assembly. Platten the green pistachio paste and cut it into squares. Each piece is shaped into a small cone. Then stuffed with our beautiful masala. Silver is carefully wrapped around the pan. Then the final touch made with a saffron and rose water mixture. He's giving a little bindi to it. Yeah. Exactly. It's like. Yeah. That is. Nice. Going to try it out, right? With you guys too? How do you say cheers? Cheers. Oh, okay. Cheers. Mmm. Mmm. That is delicious. When I had this alone, way too powerful. It was very intense. With this kind of wonderful chewy sheet of pistachio, with that nuttiness balances out the perfumeiness so much. It's a perfect blend. So good. I think you just take this joke. Whether it's complex or super simple, India knows how to take desserts to a whole new level. That's true. Thank you so much for joining me today. It's such a treat to have you by my side this whole day explaining all this amazing cuisine to me. For you guys, you can check out Archana on Instagram. Also for you guys, this video was made possible by OneTrip Vietnam. OneTrip is the hottest waiting tour company in Vietnam. Watch this video. Yep. Yeah. I think we've had a couple of though. The one, the square looking one with the silver on top, I think, I don't know if you guys were here. I think you might have been. We've had sweets a couple times. I've had pond. Yeah. And it doesn't taste that much different in India. It's pretty comparable. Not a fan. It tastes like perfume. Well, there's different types of pond as well. We had Flaming Pond in New Delhi. No, they were trying to get me to try Flaming Pond. Yeah, I did it. I would not. Oh, wait. Did I? I thought you did do it. No, not the Flaming Pond because I wouldn't let somebody stick their hands in my mouth. That's true. And they had to do it. You couldn't hand it yourself. I think they handed me a pond. Yeah. And it was terrible still. But there's different types of pond. So there's like chocolate pond. There's all this other, but there's like rose floral kind. Mm-hmm. It's not, it's for an American palate. Oh, it's just way too different over Flaming Pond. Like it's the day in the 90s and earlier, I suppose, we had this thing called Poporee. People just had it in their house. I was just talking to my wife today. They don't do that anymore. They really don't. I don't know, I don't know why we do that. It was a fragrant thing to make your house smell nice. Yeah, but that's what it tastes like. Yep. Like you took a handful of that. You eat it. I remember when we ate that. That was, I think all three of us, I think were trying to make our food delicious. We made that around on our channel before and Ladoos and other stuff. And just basically everything we've ever had in India tastes better in India. That's what we were told unless you make it. I'm sure you can make it comparable. I'm sure you can. Obviously, I can't make it as good as the guy from that five-star restaurant we went to. Oh, my goodness. They're so good. Or the palace that we went to or the, the food. Sorry. Next time. Next time. Like the five-star restaurant, the palace we went to then. That does sound weird. Yeah, that does sound weird, doesn't it? The palace we went to and there were peacocks and the ground as we ate the mutton. I did feel weird. It was beautiful but I felt weird like going to like a big palace. We were brought there and it was a wonderful experience. Beautifully treated.  Oh, yeah. Always strange. Yep. To somebody who's not used to that. Yeah. But food is good. You like food? I do. Yeah. You like food? Oh, yeah. How is it? Oh, it's pretty good. Yeah. Cool. People always think that we don't let you guys talk. This is just them. This is just them. There's always comments when we all learn videos that said less phones. I don't. I don't do enough. That's it. Now the that's up. Then ? ? I Scared


What's up everybody I'm the Mangus, you are awesome but today I'm playing some Decker. Decker was my first love in Paragon and I do believe my first hero mastery. I did later move on to Rector in the Fae, but Decker will always have a special place in my heart. Before we begin I want to go over some differences between Paragon's Decker and Fault's version. She has a passive in Fault that refunds mana when you hit with an ability, so a good Decker that can hit her stasis bombs can harass well in lane.  Also her rocket boots that would allow you to jump in any direction in Paragon and provide a speed boost to your allies that only goes forward in Fault. So you do need to keep that in mind when you play her. I've leapt into danger many times now when I thought I was going to be ejecting backwards. Also I'm going to try something new, a suggestion from you guys. I'm going to fast forward some of the gameplay instead of cutting it out completely so you still don't have to watch the boring you know farming the lane parts but you do get to see a little bit of what's going on. What's up Richter? Let's go ahead and throw this down right here, look for your wards. I don't want any issues, I don't want any problems from you Richter. Murdock? Nice. I'm going to keep that all my way mid, I start poking mid, I have a little bit of HP, now I'm basically full HP. Missing mid. It's been so long since Paragon died and I'm still trying to do Paragon. There we go. No, I really did only 20 damage per hit on that Greystone. That's way too much of a physical armor. But he somehow didn't get the kill. Wait, please tell me the Murdock didn't get the kill on that one? I don't know. Am I dead?  He's coming after me, which is perfect, because he does not see you. Have a stun. Kill him before he kills bait. I'm the tickle squad. Hey, you got him. You made a good decoy. I'm bait. You are, and I got his gold buff from that. Gideon's taking the left side river buff. Hey, Rector. Thank you. Enemy has been slain. Beautiful right. Kwong is rotating, I think. He's trying to get this gold buff weekend. Don't the carry has it. D. Horthead. Oh, I'm not using my bracelet. Mango should be playing a little bit safe. I need to carry him. Boom. Yeah, retreat, retreat. Red buff. The ally has been slain. I got a little too aggressive. Or else I would. There's Kwong. We'll get, we'll creep.  Fuck. You tried to speed boost you, but not much. I can do there. It's hard when you get stuck on minions. They probably didn't go for wraps. He's been slain. Enemy has been slain. That was stressful to watch. We should probably take raptors now. You got the health regen for it. Because I got nothing for you. As far as heals or anything. Yay. That's what I was mainly waiting for. Some people dead. Oop. The enemies are turning carefully. Enemy has been slain. The ally has been slain. Sorry, I should have said something sooner. I think I'm actually going to build Man of Muzzle. An allied tower is under attack. So I'll have another, another interrupt for that Gideon. What are they going for? What are they, what are they doing over there? Oh, they're probably getting gold. That's not worth contesting. Right. You got a Rictor right behind you, Morgash. You're right. The ally has been slain. Of course. Good ol' Rictor, I guess. Gideon's here. Quang and everyone else was there too.  I hate games where the Rictor goes. Let's get another jungler there. Or Seth's then doing nothing ol' game. Except for hold his tower.  Okay, he picked it back up. Yeah. They're coming.  He's been slain. Nice.  Oh my god! I did say I saved mid, but changed plans. I heard a little. Trying hard for that Sparrow. Gideon behind. Oh, he is coming.  Enemy has been slain. It's been slain. Nice. Oh, that was unnecessary. That's retreat. Yep. I'm just letting him know that my Sparrow's not free. Sparrow's not a free kill for him. I've been trying to defend right when as much as possible. Me has been slain. Careful, Gideon. And Kuang. Well, they're on me instead of my carry, which is nice. An enemy has been slain. An enemy has been slain. Nice. Punish those ES holes. Rotating over. Running as fast as my little slender Decker Leaves can carry me. Nice. Kill. Very nice. Nice Raptors. Oh, our tower is in trouble. Did our tower get down? No, it's still up. Fairly. It's hanging on by a thread. Orgesh has to go... I don't know, Orgesh, but Gideon's probably going to have to go back. Definitely if you poke him. If he doesn't, I'll kill him. I'll give him that three-piece. Three-piece combo? Mm-hmm. My ult's up. He's rotating? Gideon's going right lane. An enemy has been slain. Enemy tower destroyed. He's coming up behind you, man-goose. An enemy has been slain.  Oh my god, that... That juke. Been slain. I had mana muzzle. Greystone now?  Mana muzzle, you're the one.  Well, I'm going to go back because everybody else is doing it, and it looks cool. Oh, this tower's done for him. Yeah, he's just retreating. I don't know about all that. Here, have all the things. Have all the things. Victor's dead. We're trying to focus that on the grey. B-boost. Gideon's behind us. An enemy in the corner. Been slain. Enemy tower. I didn't have mana muzzle that time. Rip. I just used my stun. That was my bad. I'm going to get red above and then rotate. I'm on my way right. Enemy has been slain. Soon. In 20 seconds. I want to invade their jungle.  Look at that. Right after I said it. Raptors.  He had a ward. I said no. You're not going to be able to say this. You just not want to contest Raptors? Yeah, I was poking Gideon out there. An allied tower is under attack. Well, I think they want to contest it, but every time they have a ward, they always destroy it first. They can't just pipe it.  Looks like the whole crew is going over there. I mean, peer pressure's cool. An ally has been slain. An enemy has been slain. An ally has been slain. Get stunned as soon as you come out. He's been slain. Nice. Get stunned. Yay! Nice job. But it's so fun. There she is. There she is. Oh fuck! We have to baby-sake you guys. Yes! Okay. This is a matter of fact. I definitely do better with baby-sitting. Nice miss. No, he didn't miss. Well, we're going to walk straight into his ult. Barenth. Nice, nice, nice. Oh god. I don't have blessings. We were coming as fast as we could. I killed the Richter and I had Murdoch a half. Okay. I walked straight into the Richter's ult and died. Is that count for something? An ally has been slain. Yo! Y'all on hood? He got tethered the moment I tried to jump. Nice. And I got Murdoch's tonight. When I tried to jump in ambush. It's like these guys have a perfect timing to cancel my ult. Double kill. Enemy has been slain. Triple kill. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. At least we have so much favoritly that we don't have that much. Are we taking prems here? No. Yeah, Sparrow has lifesteal. Sparrow has lifesteal, so you should be fine. Sparrow has lifesteal, so you should be fine. Enemy tower destroyed. What do you think, Goose of Man? We could try it. I'm going to be up in 9 seconds. But D is still down for another 50 seconds. Sparrow, get in there. I'll do my best to absorb as much damage as I can. They're coming, they're coming. Oh, this thing's going to murder me. Get out of there. Now we got it. That was greedy as hell. That was greedy. That was a risk of maneuver. Somehow we pulled it off. Enemy has been slain. Enemy has been slain. Oh, Gideon killed me.    I'm coming. No, they're not. They're not going to get him in him. I thought they were going to get me ahead, but then I saw two people back. I thought only Decker would be there in time. I could definitely defend the wave. I guess we didn't pick a terrible time to team wipe because raps aren't up. Raps aren't up, our lanes were pushed. That was a calculated team wipe decision. We wanted to team wipe, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did it on purpose. I agree, Stone. I'm just following you guys. I'm going to back. I'm really... They really want raps. I'm not going to back. There we go, shielding for everybody. And he does have ults, so... Have a stun. That was on 300 health or that entire fight. Less than that because I shielded you. That was a butt pucker. But we haven't pushed any towers. True. Where's my sparrow? I need to stick with my baby girl. We also have way more fun. So we're just going to eventually win this. We're just playing the slow game. All my way mid. Nope. And of course... Oh my god. Plain tether.  How are they beating us? That's knight. No! It's so close. And Sev is... AFK. Flash crashed. Oh, this is GG.  It's all good. That's what started that whole fight was Sev. AFK in the jungle. Trying to defend him. I didn't realize that he was DC'd in the jungle. And then the Richter and Greystone were there. So I went to help him. And then I just... Obviously... There was no one there to help. GG though. It's just... Since patch 13 it's been...  Every game... I can't believe we trashed them for the whole game of them. That was a good game though. That was a fun game. Even though we lost, I had a lot of fun in that game. Yeah, that was... for sure. And then...


What's going on guys welcome to another video today? I'm with Luke master Mr. Gene Jensen we're going out on his home water Lake Chickamauga today. Yep. I wouldn't call it my home water. I've only been here a year Yeah, it's this is new. This is new. Yep, and it might not did home water home water Yeah, so we're gonna get out there try to catch some fishing I've been out here once before and I'm had absolute blast a lot of fish and hopefully we can get on some big ones today You know he's caught some small ones the past couple of days So maybe we can get on some bigger ones today and hopefully figure out a good pattern and get on some good fish Hopefully the weather stays good and we got the weather a little against us It's hot. It's no wind and they're not supposed to be pulling too much current today on the lake zero wind It's gonna be if we get if we get into them good. It's gonna be a pretty amazing. So It's gonna be a hot out there. Let's go ahead and get this video started To my day today if ain't no way then I'm gonna make a way I ain't never listen kept them at the distance this is for the ones who ain't afraid and this is more than some paper Yeah, I like the most contacting me now towards the end Yeah, just grabbing on to it too. It's tough in high school. Yeah I Called almost 30 fish that day. I was about to say you go I was gonna make sure you had it because I knew it wasn't big Look at I'm choking You know, that's probably what happened or remember what I was like is from that one bite in it It's really shallow over there How I went over there on Navianics it shows it as an island. Yeah, I Remember going over there. So I was just trying to find some new stuff fish A little too shallow for me Let's put that worm out a little better Little better Go to the bottom a bigger one or smaller.  I was thinking myself That really just happened then once that happened. I knew it was done. It was it was no it was not my day That's a better one That's a good one.  Yeah Too bad a little stubby one any need to get some content. Let's take a picture with you get some people talking at least That's a better one I Get the guy you're too bad Yeah, that's a little They're all the same size Hope we'll look into it Look into a big boy. That's a better one. There you go. What are you about two pounds? No Need a little one I About this anointer Look at this. Look at this. I want you to know that he's running with it. I'll wait it and everything man I don't know what else I can do from there. This is not my day. I Let him just chomp on it. Just just munch on it. If he is big, I'd carry A company that they sold a gazillion here he is. Oh my god, that's a good one. It's not bad He's a little better. Dude, that's a three pounder. Not too bad. He ain't bad He's fat. Oh, he ate it. That's how that's how they eat it right there. Finally When I hooked him, I thought he was 45 pounder That ain't a bad fish We can just get a few more like that, you know three more Because I love that pond by the dam All the big ones where I go So it was a one creek turn It's a good one, man. That's a small one. It's coming up So might be that worm man. Yeah, I'm switching to switch to that worm. Wow. That's a pretty fish That's a that's a solid three and a quarter three pounder I'm getting on something There we go That's good. Yeah, switch to that. I'll have them open right there. I gotta keep grabbing That's a big small one. That is a good one. Wow Look at that. I ain't bad. Nice. They're all here at least. They're pretty big Now I'm jealous. You got a small one. We're golden when I put them in there. Oh, that's a decent one.  I'm kind of in there slow season, which is summer, which is now. Yep. Yep Fishing ain't great. It's good in the morning, good in the afternoon You little jackalip I'm gonna put It's a jighead or something. I was gonna change it. That's a decent fish too. I You think it's a jighead? No, I couldn't tell you when it has a worm on it. Yeah, it glides. It might be That's crazy. It's the little simplest things It's a pretty fish too Plenty small. Yeah, I'm with them right now and uh, they sent me some stuff and they gave me like three pairs of classic Look at that little smally. It's pretty little smally. Yeah, it is. Brown fish I didn't think he was a smally for me until he jumped Thank you guys so much for watching this video.  Yeah, actually the first time we've ever fished together We've known each other for years and we finally got together and made some made some videos and uh, but that's not over yet tomorrow He's actually following me back after all this, you know after finish all the filming cleaning up getting all his tackle He's actually following me to Lake Lanier and I've been whacking them lately on top water And we're hoping we can get out there and get on some mega spots and film just a sick video Very excited about that and that's gonna be amazing if we can get on them if they're gonna be on But if it's gonna be tough, you know, it's gonna be a tough day, but we're gonna film either way and uh Try to teach you guys some tips and tricks If not, just get some crazy top water action But overall thank you guys so much for watching if you haven't checked out Fluke Mastery, be sure to go check them out I'll leave his youtube channel link below. But thank you guys so much for watching. I'll catch you guys in the next video. See ya And this is more than some paper chicks


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La la la la la la So we're learning chat. We are learning all the things There's some things I do know some things I'm very aware of and Something that just don't know Jake Hawkins Hit in the button for 10 months in a row Everybody's showing some love to chat. Thank you so much Jake for the sport dude hit something whoops hit something Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Thank you so much, buddy. Appreciate that support Welcome back Welcome welcome back welcome back. Welcome back.  Welcome back.  Welcome back Yeah, there's some stuff. Okay, so we're gonna make our way to the squares because they're important Squares are these slots Yeah We need those and I might have enough to get this one Let's see That's 1600.  I'll be close I'll be close. Let's get that one and Yeah, by close. I'll have only 500 more and I can get this course lot Which is a think it take a squad slot which I learned is very very important Makes you very strong if you can get these squad slots for these defenders and survivors because he's had a lot of stats, man Apparently Apparently apparently this is very important Yeah, that's what I learned This is a song of learning Daily quests won't reset for a few more hours I believe so I gotta do these and I don't know how to do them I guess you just this these they sound like exploring. You just have to find these sites. I gotta figure out where all these are Hopefully before the the reset That's the goal at least that's what I'm going for the birthday celebrations ending tomorrow at 3 a.m Eastern so that's that's something I want to get some more tickets cuz I Wanted I wanted I want I want some more tickets. Where is it story? No, I want some more birthday llamas. I've only opened like four But then again, I just restarted the game a few days ago, so I Want to open I want to open a few more birthday llamas before they go away and Today I'm probably gonna be focusing on getting some more gold So I can get I Don't know I may I may try to get sort of master can if I can He's a he's a mythic Mythic sword master, but I kind of want the Kind of want the trap. I already got the Hydra. I don't know. I'm not too keen. Well, the hammer has a I already just has a nice alt fire Yeah, I heard it has a That's all fire I open maybe 10 birthday llamas Howard that was because I had like 26 troll llamas waiting for me When I'll read out.  I was like what in the world is going on I Got like 3200 5100 for that It was so much man Yeah, I like I think I had like two maybe I think I had one legendary Actually, no, I didn't have any legendary heroes Prior to me coming back and I got all of these from the llamas I had none. I was like my main guy was an epic and I had like blues and stuff because I started the game like Early early and I guess they improved the drop rates or something. I don't know or maybe I think those llamas had like I Think those llamas had they were guaranteed legendaries and like a lot of them That could be why Subtiles and welcome the troll on was a guaranteed goal goal. Yep Yeah All right, I guess I need to one of the things That I'm struggling with and maybe you vets and chat can help me is that I'm constantly run out of bullets. I Guess the obvious thing would be like hey, Buona. You should craft more bullets Like the ammo shells and slugs. This is what my hydro uses. I believe That's transfer items I Just have a lot man. I mean I don't have a lot. I Just needed bullets all the time. I'm aware of how to make more bullets That's that wasn't that wasn't the problem. I didn't say I didn't know how to make bullets I said I'm always out of bullets And the thing is you need nuts and bolts to make bullets and I'm always out of those too So I'm constantly it's like a cycle. I'm constantly farming them. All right, guys Let's all look at Jake and say he's trying to be funny. Let's just all look at Jake point at him and say Yes, yes, this guy is trying to be funny Aim better No, it's not the same for everyone Definitely not the same for everyone There's a there's a key to it Obviously you got to know the the right spots the farm nuts and bolts and keep a large collection of them and As your guns get better. I'm just telling you what I know. I don't know how to fix it completely, but as Your guns get better. You use you'll use less bullets So the the weaker your gun is the more bullets you use so Good gun more bullets So I think I'm going to do that. I might do that first. I might go farm some bullets go to a lower level mission by myself and Go to a place where there is I know there's bullets I don't think you need to finish the mission to keep the bullets either or to keep the stuff I may be wrong about that Go until like an industrial area. Oh, did you guys know this game had like alerts? My wife showed me the site. It's called a storm shield one If you go here, I'll put the link in chat in case you don't have it It's got alerts like warframe and they rotate it's like all these different places have all these different drops of Like all these materials and stuff that you need and it's like a lot I was like wow and they expire in 21 minutes next missions in nine minutes, etc It's really cool. Of course. I only have stonewood and plankerton. I don't have candy valley or twine peaks unlock yet Which is a whole set of new stuff. That's this is where all the good stuff drops and I haven't even got that high yet Hello, that was pretty interesting that the site exists. I didn't know about that. I Didn't know fart night. What's up, Eric the aim pot? making jokes Yeah, I want to go by myself because I don't want to I just want to farm So I'm gonna do swan Or I just do private actually Private But I don't know if I'm gonna be able to keep this stuff or not Anybody knowing chat if you keep this.  Oh Rescue the survivors would be a good one, but that's in the woods Is there a rescue survivors like in the Actually, there isn't let's try this and see what happens.   I think it's pretty good. I put some levels into that Let's see how it fires Yeah, it's got a really fast fire rate.  That's dragons war in my bed up here, but my Hydra I Don't know if I can craft another one. I think I need more mats I Do I do I need more of the sturdy mechanical parts? So hopefully I can find more of these too because this one's about to break And I'm like I'm trying to craft my own guns because my wife gave me Some overpower stuff and I'm keeping it in my inventory. I'm not trying to use it as much So we're actually we got a thousand more metal. We can get as a full group focused on them and the timer is fine But doing the solo is a pain. Yeah, I do know the like the the transformers Have a lot nuts and bolts. I know cars do too. That's really loud Yeah, the fortnight the storm shield one is really good What's up Miami? Nope. I can't help you man Sure can't sorry Up there we go. We got one mechanical part So we need that for the Hydra So we need okay, we need 15 more. We're a long ways away from that farming farming farming One thing I also didn't know is that I guess since the last time I played Actually, let's get this cake while I'm here since the last time I played They really really up the amount of Guns you can find in houses.  I should have searched that probably had some nuts and bolts in it But the quality of loot is better than what I remember if you just go in houses and stuff I remember skipping these like I used to look for chess and nothing else Hmm. I'll take that You want in You want in I will let you in sir. He's good. Oh, that was me. I was like who said that That's right la la No, you need these to make a higher quality one. You need this item You can get them now too. It's called as it looks like a vial. I Think I can see it during the mission, but you need a special item. There's a epic one There's a legendary one and I think the legendary ones you can only get from the store so go to the loot store and There's an event tab If you look at that You'll see it's like a legendary elixir or vial. I forgot the name of it flux. Yes, that's the name of it You need that to upgrade like epics to legendaries and and on comments that you know that kind of stuff But if you got duplicates you should put them in your collections Make sure you stay on top of your collection. That is a great source of great stuff If you have duplicates or you got grays that you don't want Go into your collections and see if you can slot them in your collections That that was like one of the things I did last time I played I was like really heavily focusing on that and I was getting a lot of stuff grass and If all else fails, um, I Just break it down. I just recycled them But I usually try I usually try to Slot them in my collections first if I remember And they've kind of made it easy you go into your collections and they'll just show you Things that are collectible Yeah, two traps down here. I don't want to build. That was a good thing. I did build 24 hour one of stream. Oh, you mean the 24 up there. No, that's my level That's just my level I made somebody mad There's bacon in them there toilets, there we go mechanical parts there destroy the encampments I Okay, it's turtlet bacon It's marinated with all kinds of stuff. You don't want to know about Or do you? Aka it's pretty nasty It's pretty nasty man. I really like this gun. Why do you move you like teleport it and we finished it Now to get more cakes after this So we're full on wood, but we're not full on metal Again, I don't know if I have to complete this to keep my materials Last I remember I didn't I've kind of gone in a circle. Hold on. I need to go north That's special sauce for real Okay, lady It'd be a real big waste if I didn't keep it but Hey, why you know, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do chat? Farming all the things I got to make another Hydra. I Think that's more important than the bullets cuz Once this Hydra goes, I don't have enough mats to make okay. I don't have enough mass to make another one I don't know where that voice just came from but straight loony tunes right there If you find a mat's bueno So I need The heck it's a green one. I'm getting the wrong ones and blast powder No So I was going north right? Yeah See I'm like really watching my bullets up down to 84 if I see a transformer Oh, these are the encampments. This is Let's just have to get near them Whatever They may become enabled later You mean like that one. I'm purposely gonna not let this Keep tracking my materials What's a good thing to keep track of nuts and bolts where they 72 So when I I want to fail this or not fail it but not complete the mission I just farm the whole time and see if I keep this stuff So I'll track it via nuts and bolts That nuts and bolts number goes down Then you have to complete the objective This is a song of learning Oh You keep those okay cool. So Google search says you do keep it awesome So we could just blindly farm and not care about anything because it used to be a thing, but I'm just I'm just I'm not gonna rely on my perfect memory unquote perfect And they may have changed it. Yeah, I mean that's how it was in the past catch That's how it was in the past, but they may have changed it quite possible Do-do-do-do-do-do What? Also, I need to I got to discover a bunch of stuff for dailies and I'm not sure What that entails? I mean, I know you have to discover something, but I don't know where to go I got that fish memory. What memory? What you talking about? What who are you? Why are you here? What's your name? Yeah This is a song of forgetfulness Shop don't tell me the odds Never tell me the odds. How come that couch don't have no pennies? Follow those bullets. I Need the slugs man Again, what are we at? 85 I haven't seen one. Um, I guess you have to do them in the order that they want you to do a man I haven't seen them. I forgot what I was gonna say Fish memory chat la-la-la Ooh I like a finding bullets Really like a finding bullets chat.  I Could probably do this in three minutes. I shot him. Are you okay? Are you okay? Do you have any bullets? No, there was no bullets in there Commander XP. Oh, that's probably a mimic catch Catch again No You better not be or it's not moving. Oh, that was mean That was so mean Jerks don't interrupt me. Good Simple mechanical parts. What's the name of the one I need? Sturdy I need sturdy sturdy mechanical parts is what I need you got you got you got what I want Need that sturdy chat finding the stuff is What I want to do What I want to be What I want to see The funny thing is that I'm gonna do all this Just to get bullets To run maybe two missions and I have to repeat it again It's gonna be a better way man. This gun's about to go I'm gonna pistol it here it comes