ThinkTek Hawaii, civil engagement lives here. Welcome to Human Humane Architecture. I'm Tim Shuler. I'm the guest host filling in for Martin de Spang, who's on break for the summer. And we're doing a mid-century modern summer through the Hawaii chapter of Doko Momo. And I am here with Richard Lowe, who is an urban planner and urban thinker with Lowe & Associates, which is planning and real estate consultancy, right? Yes, it is. And Bundit Kanitthakan, who's also a designer and an architect with Tadpole Studio, which is based here in Honolulu. Thank you guys for being here. Pleasure. Yeah, I'm excited. We're going to be talking about the role of planning and how it's shaped Honolulu, both the past and the present, as well as the future, right? I believe so. I'm looking forward. So let's get to the first slide. We are going to be talking about these three areas of Honolulu. We're looking at a map of Oahu, as well as an inset of urban Honolulu. Richard, can you tell us a little bit about the three areas that we're going to be? Well, it's the A southwest portion of Oahu, densely populated, and with very, very important interests in architecture and planning, because the traffic is very heavy and the highways are very busy and take up a lot of space. And so we're looking to improve upon it in a way that will make it more functional for the community as a whole and more beautiful for those using it. That's wonderful. So before we get to some of those big ideas, tell us a little bit about how you came to Hawaii. You've been working here in planning and in real estate for a long time. What brought you to Hawaii? What brought me to Hawaii was the expansion of the design of the state capital to a master plan for the whole civic center, federal, state, and city. And I had done planning studies.  Let's go to the next slide then. What year was this when you came to Hawaii? 1964. What were your initial impressions of the city when you arrived? Well, at first, getting off the airplane, I didn't want to come in the first place, but I came. It was an opportunity at the time. And I stepped onto the tarmac at the airport, and I had this amazing feeling from my head down to my toes that I was at home. Little did I know I'd be here for as many decades as I had. That's great. And as I understand it, you told me a friend picked you up at the airport or a colleague, someone you knew professionally. And they drove you past Queen Emma Gardens, right? They did. Which was brand new at the time? Fairly new. OK, fairly new. Fairly new. What were your impressions of that building? You would go on to live there later, right? Yes, I actually did. Well, my impression was that it was a somewhat high-rise, a mid-rise building, but very good-looking. And it did sort of add to the calm I had felt at the airport to find such a beautifully designed set of buildings and grounds. Yeah, we have a picture, I think, of Queen Emma Gardens in 1965. And there's an aerial view of the grounds and the tower, the three towers? Yes, very much so. The gardens are very extensive. And around behind the two towers, there are pools and little islands and places where you can have a party and enjoy the out-of-doors, in addition to the apartments, which are attractively compact but attractive. Yeah. Yeah, it's a beautiful setting. Tell us a little bit, because we're talking about planning and not just the architecture, tell us about some of the mechanisms that were in play that allowed places like Queen Emma Gardens to be developed in the first place. Very important. The redevelopment law was still functioning in America in the 60s. And they were able to consolidate a bunch of small lots into a lot sizable enough to create this type of project with lots of space and lawns and pools and so on, which other apartment projects sometimes lack, they're forced to fit onto much smaller lots that were really intended for houses. Right, right. And so was this Queen Emma Gardens, was it developed in conjunction with the H1 being built? Was that? No, the H1 came first. OK, OK. Yeah, got it. Let's talk about one of the first projects you worked on. You mentioned you came to Hawaii to help develop a master plan for the Civic Center area, which now we all know but obviously wasn't there at the time. Tell us a little bit about what some of the big major recommendations of the Civic Center master plan was. And describe the scope a little bit. Yeah, well, the first problem was to solve a location for the state capital. Some people wanted it on the waterfront. Some people wanted it. By the way, it had nothing to do with that step. Some people wanted it on the windward side and so forth. And it was prevailed upon by a lot of businessmen downtown and civic leaders that it should be where it is. Near the old capital, Elani Palace. So that was a big decision to be made. And then after the master plan was prepared, the big issue was should it be adopted or enacted as a law that would freeze everything in place, except without permits. That was not done. It was felt that it was best to leave it rather open and capable of being a guideline but not necessarily frozen in space. One of the interesting things was the closing of Capi Lani Boulevard, which used to stop at the edge of the Civic Center, where the Mayor Fawzi's office building is now, and across the street from the advertiser building. And it was removed by Frank Fawzi, who saw that on the plan and decided it was a heck of a good idea. I remember our people saying, they'll never do it, but let's put it in the plan anyway. But he saw it and did it. So it created what is now the Civic Park. Right. Otherwise you had, because Capi Lani used to continue on that curve up to Baratania, right? It was just a street like. Oh, up to Vineyard. Up to Vineyard, yeah, yeah. So that just all got ripped up. Yeah, that's a theme that I think we'll be revisiting throughout the show a little bit. This notion of the good idea properly envisioned or properly communicated can spark real action. Despite maybe how unlikely it seems at the time. Right. Yeah. Well, what else? So Civic Center stretches all the way from the Capitol building all the way to the waterfront, right? Even more. Theoretically, they wanted to designate that it extends up toward Huntsville, farther than it actually does, because so much of it is built permanent. But yeah, it does go to the harbor, absolutely. Let's talk about it quickly before we move on. I want to talk a little bit about some of the forward-thinking ideas you guys had at the time. Because even though this was the 1960s, it still prioritized green space in a big way. Lots of trees called for in the plan. Lots of big park-like open spaces called for in the plan. Lots of walking paths. Other streets were taken out, right? Mililani was taken out to become a pedestrian path. Those are ideas that it seems like Honolulu could still be using more of today. It is. If you can bundle acreage into large lots, you can do so much more with the intervening space. I mean, creating that whole civic park, for example. And from listening to Richard, we share the same office. So this is the time that the architects, the landscape architects, and also the planner really get together with the community to make all this thing happen. There's a clear communication all around that make this thing happen. And it's still proven to be a very successful, even to this day, Queen Emma Gardens still look very elegant. Whenever we go there, we always look at it and be very cheerful about it. Yeah, yeah. Much of the work done at that time holds up when it was that collaborative when they brought in the right people. One point that may be of interest, too, is that the client for the Civic Center was actually the city and county. I mean, the state, I apologize, for the state of Hawaii was the client, technically. But who represented the client? It was a huge committee of people who were of a good frame of mind, good intent. And they wanted to back the architects, the planners, and create a space that uncontroversially. And it was like that. Interesting. Yeah. Well, let's talk about, let's go to the next slide, the Loha Tower. Let's talk about that area, because unlike the Civic Center, even though it didn't, not every building you drew came to pass, that largely was created. All of the federal building, the federal building, a lot of the state buildings got built. Loha Tower area there, just Makai of downtown, has kind of had a different fate. Can you tell us a little bit about what you know of that area? Well, I got interested in it really after Bunda did. And he pointed out that there is no communication, I mean, very little communication or challenging communication between Loha Tower, which has a very lovely park, Irwin Park, which is now temporarily a parking lot as well, and the downtown in Chinatown, and Bunda felt that we should, that would be a central idea for those two locations in general. And then it flowed from there to the whole community to try to make individual places, whether it's Kakaako or the Bishop property in Kakaako or Alamoana, or even Waikiki, feel as though it isn't thwarting the visits by people who say things like that, oh, I never go to Waikiki. Well, they should want to go to Waikiki, or they never go to Alamoana Park or something. And we thought that they would do so if it were a smoother connection between the two. And that idea, you'll see in several instances here. Right, right. So we have one slide of some of the proposed developments for the Loha Tower area. Yeah, you can see some there. These are all, none of these came to pass, right? These are all suggested over the years proposed by developers and other. Over a 26-year period, the dominant authority and in the Loha Tower area asked for and invited developers to make recommendations and propose to redevelopment the whole thing, including where the tower is, and also to 14, which is near Chinatown, that pier. And all the way over to where next to the federal building. And they received, and it took 26 years to process these requests. And you mentioned we can't talk about each one because we don't have a week here. But two, it was very interesting that Chris Hemeter, the famous developer of a number of big hotels, and a successful developer of those hotels here, he put in a proposal and he spent a million dollars preparing to win that competition. He was very confident and thought he would. And he was very good with bankers. He could always raise the money he said. It was going to be a $500 million project. And it was turned down. And I'd like to be able to tell you why. And I can't, because I don't know. We're going to have to find out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, so this area hasn't been in that 26-year period. We haven't seen a major redevelopment. We did see a new tenant move in. Hawaii Pacific University now occupies quite a large portion of the Aloha Tower, right? They own, in Leesold, everything right near Aloha Tower, except the edges, which belong to the harbors strictly, and where the ships dock. But they own everything inside in the buildings and so forth. Got it, got it. And I've even noticed already, since that happened, there's been much more, it's been activated in a certain way. There's been a stream of students continuing up Fort Sheet Mall to the main campus and back, which is really interesting. But that ties into something you guys have been working on together a little bit. Been developing a much kind of both safer, but also more pleasant connection from downtown to that area, right? Can you tell us a little bit about that? And we can throw up the next slide so we can see this rendering that you guys have done. This is the idea. Tell us what we're seeing with this. If you walk down the Fort Street Mall, it's very beautiful. The trees are beautiful and the views are wonderful, both directions.  It's a remarkable view. But when you get to Nimitz Highway, it's like the Mississippi River. Yeah, sort of discourages walking across with all the traffic. It's just not hospitable. But the landscaping in Fort Sheet Mall is very pretty. And that's not the only place. You mentioned Melalani Street, I think. And it's very pretty there, too. But we want the landscape to be full and pleasant and feel as though it's all one place. You basically merge the downtown with the Loa Tower Marketplace. Right. And so you do that through a pretty, you can see in the photo, Nimitz has actually been dropped down. And this is, we should say, this is just a rendering. It's a proposed idea. But cities around the world have done this sort of thing. They've buried highways, created park decks above them, describe a little bit how this vision works, and mentioned the rail, too. Well, fortunately, I mean, once you accept that the rail station is going to be there, to which others in the architectural world have objected, it is going to be there, so far as we know. And we assume that that's the case. And that will dump a crude term, will dump a lot of people from around the island. When this becomes a more hospitable place in general, that will be a great source of patronage for whatever is built and rented and so on within the Loa Tower Marketplace and the other piers, as well. And then putting the Nimitz Highway Underground as a vital part of that. I mean, it's one way to make it a more peaceful part of the garden linking downtown. And it's also reemphasized the connection of the Fort Street Mall from the mountain to the ocean. So we reestablished the connection again, the mountain and the ocean, for the citizens that live in Hawaii and the tourists. Yeah, you get rid of that giant block there. And we walk around the side and we just come up with it as we move along. So we usually go walk around at night and during the days after meal and just see what we can do to make Honolulu better. So he has a lot of knowledge, and we have a lot of creativity, so we collaborate. Yeah, that's wonderful. I would love to see this happen. I think we need more green space. And if you can bridge over traffic while you're doing it, that's all the better. It also doesn't remove any traffic, which is the drivers like that. You're not closing the road, you're just burying it. Well, let's talk about, so you guys have explored these kinds of ideas elsewhere as well, not just for the Aloha Tower Marketplace. Richard, you have, in addition to the Civic Center, you also helped develop the master plan for Ward Village, which is very much coming into its own now. But you were working on that master plan also about 40 years ago, right? At least. And yeah, at about the same time as on the Civic Center master plan, we did that master plan. We published the Ward master plan in 1967. And then, of course, it's gone through several changes of ownership. It was sold by the Ward family to the owners of the Ala Moana Center. And then they had a bankruptcy problem and sold it to Howard Hughes Company. And even during the time when Victoria Ward only began, they built the theaters as kind of a first glossy project. And it's been changing as we all see since then. And dramatically now. Yes. Yes. Well, I want to throw up the image that we have from the original plan from 1967, because it's really striking to me how it's not building for building by any means, but it's really striking the similarities to what we have. We have these, it's still relatively low density, even though everyone looks at the towers and thinks, oh, so many towers. But it's actually still very, it's a tower and then a lot of space still. Between them. And that's exactly what you guys envisioned in your plan. Was that inspired, do you feel like, from your experiences at Queen Emma Gardens and looking around at the way that towers and large landscaped courtyards? Maybe. I can't insist that it is, but it must maybe by intuition or the habits of thought that we had, it turned out that way. And then that Howard Hughes Company has the ingredients to make it happen. They have a lot of money evidently. And so it does take that, and it takes management expertise, really sharp management company and vision. Yeah. Well, so speaking of vision, we saw the plan, but plans, as you guys have mentioned, are not static, they're always evolving. We just saw recently this image of the elevated parkways. This is a brand new announcement from Howard Hughes that they're imagining something very similar to what you're proposing downtown. They're proposing a sort of landscaped, pedestrian friendly linkage over Alamoana Boulevard, to Kuala Basin and Alamoana Beach Park. True, yeah. It's very interesting coming out. They have a new leadership now, and that's what he has proposed. He's saying, let's refresh the master plan. And it wouldn't violate the master plan much, but I think it adds a lot of interest and functionality to the whole idea. And so let's talk about taking that then over to Alamoana, the shopping center. You guys also have ideas for this part of town. Right, so Rich can talk about it. Yeah, well, Alamoana Center is, when you think about it, it's very isolated. And it doesn't feel like that when you're there, because there are 1,000 people around you at all times. But in fact, it's a very austere experience, in a way. You're just there. And we think that it could be just as commercially viable by connecting it better to the park and providing places where there are some parking lots upstairs, places to have a restaurant, a terrace, and you can shop more and experience the environment better if that were the case. And then we have this bridge idea. Yeah, next slide. Yeah, from approximately Neiman Marcus location. In this case, leaving the roadway as it is and connecting with the upper level of Alamoana and then bridging over. But again, a great deal of landscaping and attractive features. We can imagine such things as sculpture gardens along the way and so on. And just utilizing the whole vast space there, both of these places, Ward and Alamoana, are 50 and 60 acres. So there's a lot of space. And to use it more liberally toward the arts would be a definite goal. Definitely. Well, also, again, providing that connection visually and physically across this major roadway to the water. And just go back from the Hawaiian knowledge about the Maokai and Makai. So people have that understanding about the mountain and the ocean. It's make it pedestrian friendly. Well, let's take this idea then extend it all the way to Waikiki. We're going to skip the. We all know what Waikiki looks like. Let's skip Lulio Kalani Gardens and talk about the people mover extending the idea of taking rail, which right now stops at Alamoana shopping center. Currently, the idea is to provide a connection to Waikiki, which is the main tourist hub of Oahu. Tell us about this idea of bringing some kind of fun, funky, Waikiki-esque people mover there that would then connect to the rail, because I love this idea. I know. I think so. There's one in Montreal. It really, there are two types of this. There are a million ways of creating connections, vehicular connections, between two places. But this one we feel needs, it began, so far as I know, in Lausanne, Switzerland, where every 20 years they have a fair, displaying marvelous technology that is accessible to people and fun, and very much in the open, much of it. We thought that, actually, we first thought of a gondola system. And then between us, and especially Bundet began to realize that it would be a huge towering system if we had gondolas hanging. And they'd have to go over a lot of high-rise buildings. So we thought, let's keep it lower, like this, and sort of light rail, but also serious, so that if it's a rainy day, we don't want people having to, even though that might be fun for some. Right, so you imagine these kind of arched posts, but still not blocking the streetscape, but just kind of hovering, sliding over this traffic. And these arched spaces can be like when people arrive to Waikiki, they start to give the sense of arrival. This is a different zone that we arrive to, and keep repeating it, and keep going through Waikiki. So that's how we envision it. Yeah, yeah. So that's great. Well, we're almost out of time. Do you have some final thoughts on the role of planning? What do you? Well, we might speak for a second. I guess we have that much, or something, where when we look at this slide 14, we're looking at, as you know, Lilio Kalani Gardens. And the way it was, before this was built and obedient to the Waikiki Special Designers District, rather new law, zoning law, a lot of buildings were built in Waikiki, where somewhere on the kind of southern end. The whole lot. Yeah, yeah, a whole lot, a whole lot. Very little setback. Then the law came, was passed, and then on, they had to have garden pools and be much more open, less dense. And that's an excellent example of the result of a change in the zoning law. Right, yeah. So the cities can guide the way they're shaped and formed through the law and through ordinances and things like that. And you know, for us, too, it's just the idea of gather everyone together and have a clear understanding and clear path of communication, work as a team to come up with our good intention and to make this thing happen. We need the whole group of missionaries and find people with good intention to make that happen. And collaboration with all the discipline, landscape, urban planner, architects, and more importantly, the people that live in that area to make all this thing happen. These are just a bot that we just plant a seed and hope it gets somewhere. Yeah, so. Well, I think the seed has been planted. Thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you. Yeah, thanks to all of you for tuning in. And we'll see you next time on Human Humane Architecture.


First question is from Milena a race. Uh, what is better hit versus traditional cardio and why? Yeah. Uh, this is one of those annoying questions where I'm going to have to say it depends, right? So let's, yeah, let's talk about the pros and cons of each, right?  It is more muscle preserving than traditional forms of cardio. Okay. We'll go back to that for a second though. It's more calories, uh, per the minute within it, but you could technically do steady state where for an hour compared to the 12 minutes and you'll technically burn more calories. So make sure if they all do 15 minutes, right, then you're going to burn more with hit than you will with tradition. I think it's important to know that because I know that it gets marketed like that a lot of times. And so people are like, wow, I can do 15 minutes and it burned more calories than an hour of cardio. It's like, oh no, that's not what it is. No, it's more per time spent. It's, it does preserve muscle better. Um, it is better for, uh, if you want the kind of explosive performance that a lot of sports are looking for. Um, here's the cons requires a lot higher skill. It's the risk of injury is much higher. If you're a high stress individual, probably not appropriate. So it's less appropriate for far more people than traditional card is now we go to traditional cardio. It does burn less calories, but it also tends to be more recuperative. It doesn't preserve muscle as well. But if you're doing traditional resistance training and your diet's okay, then you're, you're probably okay. Traditional cardio is not going to give you the kind of athletic performance that most sports look for unless your sport is like long distance, you know, type endurance, like running or whatever. Um, and it's just more appropriate for more people. So essentially what we're, what we're asking is what's better or a hammer or a screwdriver, and it depends on the job and the tool that we need for the job. Well, on think too, like risk factors. So if you go in the high intensity route, yes, it is more muscle preserving, but also you have to be a little bit more advanced, um, in terms of having the prerequisites and having experience, uh, exercising at that pace. Uh, where cardio you can kind of string it out a bit longer. It might not be quite as impactful in the joints. Like you can kind of structure it that way. So, you know, you, you have to kind of decide what makes sense in terms of your goals and like, are you really at that level or, you know, should you just kind of construct more of a cardiovascular longer version of that? You know, every time we talk about cardio, I feel like we upset the cardio bunnies or the people that just absolutely love to do cardio. Um, but I really wish that the general population or a majority of people that are listening to this that are trying to pursue fat loss, which is why most people get on cardio, very few people are just doing it for overall health, which if that's the case, I think that's fantastic. Most people think it's one of the best modes for you to get in shape and to lose body fat. And I just wish if, if I could convey one thing to those people, I wish that you would, you would figure it out without that first and then learn to add that in later and then have fun. Add hit, try that out for a while, see how it makes you feel.  Okay. What, what, what, what amount of calories do you need to eat to maintain your body weight with no cardio and just your normal daily activities and then learn how to program training in there, weight lifting to see how the body changes from that. And, or if you reduce a couple of hundred calories from your maintenance, how your body responds as far as losing body fat, learn all that first and then bring and introduce cardio in and, and, and bring it in intermittently and, or put it in places that you go like, oh, I could see myself doing this for the rest of my life. I could definitely do a one hour hike every weekend or, you know, 20 or 30 minutes, you know, two to three times a week. But first figure out, figure out all those other things of how your body responds without it in there and then introduce it. I think it would just, it would benefit everybody so much. As a primary mode of exercise for fat loss, it's not very effective. It leads to plateaus, leads to metabolic adaptation. It just, it's just not a super effective soul way of weight loss, at least not on a long term basis. But, you know, back to the, the question of HIIT versus traditional, which is, you know, more of your steady state cardio. What percentage of your guys' clients do you, did you put on HIIT and what percentage did you have do something similar to steady state? Um, I tended to use steady state more. So did I. Yeah, like, far more. It was a very small percentage I, you know, apply HIIT to, just because of where they were coming from. Same here, because if, if I, if you have movement pattern issues and a high stress life and I'm not there to monitor and watch you and I'm asking HIIT training requires all out intensity or effort. It's very high intent. That's something that it's part of the name, right? High intensity interval training, whatever dysfunction you have or movement pattern issue you have is going to be amplified tremendously. And it's not a recuperative form of cardio. It's a more of a workout. And there's nothing wrong with that, but I like to have cardio. When I'm talking about the average person, if I'm talking to an athlete, that's totally different, but I'm talking to the average person to hit quite a bit. Yes. Yeah, but we didn't train very many athletes. No, I'm talking to the average person. I wanted cardio to be recuperative. So I would do lots of things like walking and hiking and cycling to where that's going to facilitate recovery rather than take away from. The recovery that I need when I'm applying resistance training with them. So that's what I didn't want to do. I don't want your workout, your cardio workout. Unless again, you're an athlete and there's a specific performance goal, but I didn't want your cardio workout to be so intense that it competed with what I was trying to do with resistance training in the sense that I had to modify my volume and intensity to make room for your cardio. I don't want to do that. Again, again, unless you're an athlete and you have specific performance stamina goals, but if your goal is fat loss and health, then I'm going to pick the form of cardio that's appropriate for all of that in the context of what I'm doing with you. And it was probably 90% of my clients. I would have them do traditional cardio, maybe 10% did hit. You're also going to pick the form of cardio that's more likely for them to sustain long term. Yes. And getting a client. That's why we, we talk about the steps and the walks and the hikes and strolls with your spouse. Like it's so much easier to convince a client to do that. You said something the other day on the podcast too. It's so true. It's like, if I, if I give my client like step goals or hey, I want you to walk for an hour every day and you could break it, you could break the hour up in 10 minute increments. You could do it all in one. You could do it in two half hours. I don't care. Just get an hour of walking, purely walking for a day. Then that means a client can do this. Oh, wow. I have a 15 minute break right now. I'm going to go for a little bit of a walk or, oh, I'm on lunch now. You know, instead of driving to get food, I'm going to walk to get food. Like they can do things that like you're not going to go like, it's my lunch break and I'm going to go do sprints on the hill. Like nobody is doing that.  It's just, it's just not likely to happen for most people. So for the general pop, I would say mine was more like a 70, 25 split. I would say 75% of my clients, I did steady state traditional cardio or walking 25%. And the reason why maybe I'm saying a little bit higher is because I, I don't think I train more athletes. It was, I had the very small percentage was maybe one to five percent was athletes that I utilized hit. And then my advanced clients. So my clients that have been training for a long period of time and we've done steady state cardio forever. We've done, I've strengthened them there. And we've done explosive stuff. And so they're ready for that. But I don't, did you guys see what just happened to Brendan Schaum? Oh yeah, he hurt his, he blew boulders hamstrings. Thought he'd go for a sprint real quick. Yeah, that would be excited to go a hundred percent. That wouldn't happen if you went for a light jogger. That's right. That's right. He was racing a friend. And the reason why I bring him up, not to throw shade. We got a lot of love for Brendan is that that's an example of why as a trainer, I wouldn't do that with a normal because it's an all out. It's that you're asking somebody for all out for 20 seconds to get after it as hard as they possibly can. And then if you get after it as hard as you can and you haven't conditioned the body to handle, that's exactly what happens.  You do something like that.  It's just not worth it for a majority of the clientele. 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So I'm here to talk about Facebook, and Facebook is a very interesting platform for marketers for many reasons. There are over 900 million users on Facebook, and these users volunteer their personal information. They give you your age, their gender, even their relationship status and what they're interested in. As an advertiser, I can take advantage of this information. I can create an ad, for example, and I can target 24-year-old females who live in Vancouver who like ice cream. So my ad can be shown specifically to the 4,820 people who meet these exact characteristics. However, one of the problems with Facebook ads is that the ads are not prominent. They're relatively hidden in the right-hand column of Facebook. The title and the text are not too long, and the only thing a marketer can really do to grab a user's attention is to take advantage of that small 110 by 80 pixel image. That image is going to be the focus of my talk today. But first, I'd actually like to get a quick show of hands. Who is on Facebook? Should be pretty much everyone. Okay, fantastic. One more question. Who actually clicks on Facebook ads? As expected, most people won't admit to clicking on Facebook ads, or most likely they don't remember clicking on Facebook ads.  So at AdParler, we run advertising through our technology for hundreds of large brands and agencies, effectively making us one of the largest advertisers on the platform. So we looked at all this data, over 300 billion ad impressions, over 200 million clicks across 73 countries, and we were looking for which images make users click on the ad. Now some of the results were fairly obvious. You put some beautiful woman, and guys are going to click. You put up some shiny shoes, and females will click. But we were looking for something abnormal. Images that appeal to people across ages, genders, and countries. Take a look at the eight images on the screen. Which of these images do you think performed the best? Surprisingly, the tilted house performed much better than any other image, and actually resulted in over 6 million clicks across advertisers, across ages, genders, and countries. So we said, this is great, let's use more tilted houses in our advertising. We'll get more clicks, we'll generate more revenue, and everyone will win. So we tried more tilted houses, and more, and more. And none of these tilted houses seem to produce the same results as the original tilted house. So we continued to test out other images to see what would work, until we found another winner, the Big Taco. Again the Big Taco performed extremely well. People would click on that taco for no apparent reason, and we got millions and millions of clicks throughout Facebook on the Big Taco. Again we tried to reproduce the success, but couldn't find the taco which produced the same result as the original. Over and over again we found certain images, unusual images, that performed very well. The rainbow waterslide, the mud people, the blue whale, hopefully some of you have seen some of these images on Facebook. But again and again, over and over we could not reproduce the success by trying to find a similar image. So what does this tell us? One, the certain images that everyone loves, across ages, across genders, across countries. Two, these images that performed well were actually amateur photographs, not the professional stock photography that most advertisers push through. And number three, we were really not good at trying to guess which images work. So you must test vigorously, find out what works. So to all the marketers and advertisers out there, I would say stop wasting your money trying to take that perfect professional image, stop wasting your time trying to pick out which image will work, test, learn, and believe in the data. Thank you.


Hello, it's Q&A with Dr. Jay and we had a great question that came in over a weekend regarding the case that I posted about Placing a temporary restoration. The question was in regards. Do I do any local anesthetic or Carey's removal? Prior to placing the glass armor and the answer is no, I just go ahead and place the restorative material into the cavity and that will seal it up and be a temporary until we can get the patient back Another day to fix the problem great question. If you have any, please feel free to message me or type it in to the comments Have a great week


So ladies and gentlemen, why are marines invading the great state of Michigan and is coming to the city of Detroit? Detroit represents actually, to me, the loftiest ideal, what it truly means to be an American. That if you try and you plow yourself, that you can get ahead. That is exactly what we offer in the United States Marine Corps. We're not here to recruit anybody. Our purpose is to reconnect with America. We're strong. We're resilient and no matter what, we will find a way to make it. And I'm happy to see the comeback of the city. Well I won't even call it a comeback. I'm happy to see things improve. I'll be happier when it's more widespread, but I'm happy to see things improve, proud of my city. We are more than willing to face adversity and continue on because we will find a way to adapt and overcome. The city of Detroit is the exact same way. It's faced hardships, but it hasn't given up the fight. There has been talks of bankruptcy and all these things that people are wondering, can this city make a comeback? Being here with boots on the ground, I can see that it has that exact same fighting spirit. The city does not want to give up. It's coming back and hopefully seeing the Marines with that type of inspiration and putting Detroit together will help amplify it and help it continue to grow and become a better city. With the Marine Corps sponsoring with USA Wrestling, it's kind of getting into the market of these younger kids and kind of what the CG was talking about as far as the warrior spirit, the mindset. Coming up in wrestling as a kid, I did it for 12 years and there wasn't a lot of opportunity to go from there. They were speaking words of encouragement. They were telling him to jump harder. They were telling him to come home. Having that courage, that kind of inner party to step on the mat and go at some kind of conflict with somebody one on one. And so I think that's where a lot of the combative sports wrestling you get to, martial arts comes into play with the Marine Corps in general. When I first found out about the contest, this was the first picture that I thought of. To me, she exemplifies what Detroit stands for. She's unique. She's strong. She still stands strong. And that determination in her eyes, that's a betrayal. U2 can do better. U2 can reach the pinnacle of life offers. The United States Marine Corps will stand behind that effort for as long as I hope that I'm in uniform, but really as long as the Marine Corps defends this country.


A video published by the Israeli Army shows soldiers getting ready for mobilization on Saturday following a surprise attack by members of the Islamist group Hamas that killed at least 40 people and wounded hundreds. The attack, biggest against Israel in years, combined gunmen crossing into Israel with a barrage of rockets fired from Gaza. Israel said the Iran-backed group had declared war as its army confirmed fighting with militants in several Israeli towns and military bases near Gaza and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to retaliate.


I am Army Sergeant Abigail Waldrop. It's an unusually bright and sunny day here in London for the 2012 Paralympic Games, and today a different kind of football season is gearing up. A couple of players on the U.S. men's seven-aside football team are trading their combat boots for cleats. Two wounded warriors are still proudly serving their country on the football pitch. Oh yeah, it's a lot of fun, it's a lot of, obviously there's a lot of pride in it, but it's a different experience. It's surreal right now. Marine Corporal Rene Renateria and retired Army Staff Sergeant Gavin Sibion are rebounding from combat-related injuries and setting new goals. They still have another game to bounce back, but regardless, both U.S. military players have had the experience of a lifetime. Reporting from the 2012 Paralympic Games, I'm Army Sergeant Abigail Waldrop.


My fellow Americans, tomorrow is Father's Day, so naturally our thoughts turn to them and to the well-being of family life in America. Families have always stood at the center of our society, preserving good and worthy traditions from our past, entrusting those traditions to our children, our greatest hope for the future. Family life has changed much down through the years. The days when we could expect to live in only one home and hold only one job are probably gone forever. Perhaps we will not go back to the old family ways, but I think we can and should preserve family values. Values of faith, honesty, responsibility, tolerance, kindness, and love. And we'll keep on trying to do better, trying to create a better life for those who follow. This hasn't been easy to do in the last decade. It's become more difficult to raise children than it once was. For example, the dependency exemption on your income tax. The money you can deduct for raising a child or caring for an elderly relative was $600 in the late 40s. That's been increased to $1,000 now. But if that deduction had been indexed to keep pace with inflation, today you would be deducting more than $3,000 for every one of your children. Housing became harder to afford, and the cost of private education also became too expensive for millions of middle-income families. By 1980, American families felt the full shock of runaway taxes, inflation, record interest rates, and soaring prices for housing, education, food, and other necessities of life. They saw the golden promise of the American dream disappearing behind storm clouds of economic misery. Liberals urged huge government subsidies, paying parents for expenses they used to handle themselves. But big government becoming big brother, pushing parents aside, interfering with one parental responsibility after another, is no solution. It only makes bad situations worse, raising prices and taxes for everyone. We came to Washington with a better idea, help working parents to better provide for themselves and their children by enabling them to keep more of their earnings and help them by making government do its job so the terrifying specter of runaway price increases never returns. Our tax rate reductions have helped parents, reducing the tax bill that would have been owed by a typical family by over $900 a year, and we've helped parents by reducing the inflation rate by nearly two-thirds since 1980 and by creating more than six million new jobs. Things are getting better for American families, but much remains to be done. That's why the Treasury Department is making greater tax fairness and greater tax incentives for families a central consideration in the tax reform proposals they're developing. We're trying hard to help fathers and mothers in other ways too. Many innocent children are exploited by those who traffic in the gutter of drugs, child pornography, and prostitution. Last month I signed the Child Protection Act of 1984, a key part of our determination to crack down hard on the smut merchants, and this past week we opened a national center for missing and exploited children to help educate parents and authorities on how to protect their loved ones. We've just launched a nationwide citizen effort to encourage volunteer court-appointed special advocates in legal cases of neglect and child abuse. Soon we'll start up a sophisticated detective program to help law enforcement officers identify and capture the so-called serial killers who prey upon women and children, and we've urged the Congress to pass a law that will strengthen and improve child support from absent parents. Children should not be financially abandoned just because they're separated from one of their parents. We're trying hard to make two other changes. We want to see fewer abandoned handicapped or underprivileged children left in perpetual foster care, and we want to see the unborn child given his or her chance to live and to know the joys of life. Adoption is often the best option. Too often it's been the forgotten option. We're seeing hopeful signs that our policies are paying off. Family income is improving, infant mortality rates continue to drop, and the crime rate has taken a steep dive. The outlook for families in America is better today than in 1980, and we're determined to make it better still. Happy Father's Day. Until next week, thanks for listening, and God bless you.


Okay, so now we're going to go over some quick introductions. So, I am Brittany Norwood. I use she her pronouns. I'm a common Siberian here at UTK so be ever chat in meeting help with research research assistants, or come to the front desk I might be the person who helps you out. And my email address is norwoodbr at utk.edu. Good morning everybody. My name is Chris Powell, I use she her pronouns, and I am a student success librarian here I work with a lot of our first year composition students so if you're in English 101 one or two, etc. I'm your librarian, and you can reach me at curset at utk.edu. Okay, so today we're going to be covering what synthesis is in the search process. We're going to use it and how you can use it when you're doing your research, and we'll stay after the lecture for about 30 minutes to answer any additional questions you have. Okay, so first of all, what is synthesis. So, for a little background on this workshop. We see several students who need help finding research, and they have this idea that every single source needs to answer their entire research question. Now, sometimes this is possible, and it's necessary. And every single source you would include does need to address everything you're asking in your research question for your specific situation, or assignment. But this approach in general isn't always possible. Sometimes the perfect research you would be needing to back up your question just hasn't been published yet. And the fact that you're looking into something that's new or unstudied could be why you're asking this question in the first place is something you want to explore because it isn't unknown. So there are cases in which the perfect source might not exist. Okay, and first of you could click really fast. So this leads us into what synthesis is. It's the process in which you take different things and combine them to create something new. And probably one of the most accessible examples of this process will be baking a cake. Depending on your recipe, you would take eggs, sugar, flour, milk, and combine them and in doing so create a product that while containing all those things and while needing to contain them is ultimately something different from every good into it. So for the search process. This means that you're searching for several sources that each address a piece of your research question, and you use them in tandem to support your overarching argument. So you aren't necessarily looking for one perfect source, but are instead willing to find several sources that support different elements of your argument. And so just a quick note. This workshop is about how synthesis can be used to better your search process. But people also often use synthesis to structure their arguments as well. If you're wanting more information on paper structure, please remember to contact the writing center to get more information. They're a great resource, and we'll be sure to help you out. So now let's talk about when to use synthesis. Can I click Carissa. Wonderful. So, other than the fact that hopefully after this presentation, synthesis is an approach that you just want to use. There are some examples of when it might be pretty necessary for you to use it. So the biggest example would be when you're researching a topic, and no one else has published research on your exact topic. So this could be the case when you're already pretty familiar with the literature on a certain topic or variable. And you know already that there is a gap in that literature. And the purpose of your research is to try to fill that gap. It could also be the case that maybe you're researching something that's relatively new, and you're trying to be innovative in your search process. So as an example of this, when I was an undergraduate studying psychology, and several of my peers were wanting to look into Instagram and how it would affect women's body consciousness. Now at the time, Instagram was a new enough platform that not a lot of scholarly literature had been published on it. So my peers had to go about the research process and a more roundabout way. And I'll give you an example about what they had to do. I'm later on in the slides. Now you might also need to use synthesis if you need to demonstrate critical thinking and your professor isn't wanting you to just have some or just to summarize your sources. So the synthesis approach requires you to select sources that do complement each other and work together. Now in synthesis, you do need to use critical thinking and analysis to show how your sources fit together to answer your research question. And it can also be the case that you've hit a wall, but you still really want to research your topic, or you can't change your topic. And you just need a way to move forward. So in all of these situations, synthesis as a search strategy is really your friend. So you might be asking how synthesis is different from our other approaches. So let's compare it to the common summary based approach. So in a summary based approach, you're more focused on finding sources that stand on their own, meaning they encompass everything you're looking for, and you don't need to even other sources to fill in the gaps. So if you're researching tick tock mood and self esteem, then you might want every source you have to include all three of those elements. So the research strategy would be to include as many of those different elements you're researching as possible into whatever search bar you're using whatever database you're using. And as this is a summary based approach, you are pretty much repeating a lot of the research that you found, and might not be doing too much to show how those sources work in tandem, because I don't need to work in tandem. So if your source addresses every element of your research question, you don't have to tie them together to make them work.  The summary approach is valid. And sometimes you will be required to take a summary based approach. But it isn't always viable for all assignments. I mean just think about some of the scenarios we talked about on the previous slide. Even a synthesis approach really can help you out. So when you use synthesis, you're more focused on finding information about the elements of your research, and how those elements interact. So you can have several different combinations of sources that represent the different variables you're looking at. So some sources may focus on one element, so they may focus on the different relationships between them. Some may talk about all the elements, but the point is you're focused on how these sources work together. The synthesis approach is a bit like weaving an argument together with each study being a different thread of the overall tapestry of your argument. And consequently, you're working with a search strategy that does aim to construct your argument, rather than just put forward studies that already completely answer your question. Now, I know this can be a bit of a confusing concept, especially when it's laid out like this. So I'm going to take some time to explain it more fully with a couple of examples. Next slide. Thank you. So let's go back to the earlier example that I pretty briefly mentioned and say you're researching how using TikTok impacts a person's mood and self-esteem. And you're going to need at least three scholarly sources for your assignment. So to start a synthesis approach on this topic, you might want to break down your research question into the elements that you're looking for. In this case, you're looking at three different elements, one, TikTok, to mood and three self-esteem. These three things will become your keywords. And think of them as individual elements when you're searching. You're also going to need to know how these three different elements interact with each other. So you'll need sources that talk about at least a couple of these elements together. Now, say you type all of these keywords into a search and you do find one perfect source that talks about the relationship between all three of these elements. Okay, go ahead and click really fast, Grisha. Twice at least. Thank you. So once again, say for your first source, you find something that talks about all three of them. But you put TikTok and mood and self-esteem into a couple more different databases and you don't find anything else that talks about all three of these things together, at least not in a way that's helpful for you. The problem is, remember, you need at least three sources for this. Here's where synthesis comes in handy when you're looking for sources. When you can't find sources that talk about all of the elements of your research, start searching for sources that talk about a few or specific elements of your research. So let's say that you start searching for sources that support these elements relationships with each other. You can break your search up into TikTok and mood. So these first two, TikTok and self-esteem, the second two, or mood and self-esteem. For me to these sources, you might end up finding at least one usable source. So now you have your first source that talks about TikTok and mood, as indicated by the red arrows. You have a source that ends up talking about TikTok and self-esteem. And go ahead and click again, Grisha, as shown by the green arrows. And then you have a source that ends up talking about mood and self-esteem, as shown by the blue arrows. So even though these last three sources, each only address a couple of different elements of your overall research topic. As you can see, each of these elements is, they're all talked about pretty equally. The way that your sources are found, the way that you found your sources and have used your search strategies. Each of these elements is pretty equally dispersed. And your arguments pretty well supported and how everything interacts. So even though you only found that one perfect source, you're still able to support your topic because you found plenty of other information that ties everything together in different pieces. And you're able to weave them together to fully support things. And of course, your approach to synthesis doesn't need to fit this exact example that I've outlined to you. The point of synthesis is to allow you to have flexibility in your search process so you can support your argument as needed. Your approach to synthesis may end up looking totally different from this and still be completely valid. That's part of the beauty of this approach. You have more flexibility to make your work your own, and you're able to tailor your search strategy appropriately. So let's say maybe you want your paper to focus predominantly on self-esteem and less on mood. You can instead come up with more searches using self-esteem as a keyword and use mood and fewer of your searches. Or maybe you're interested in the relationship between tick-tock and mood and then how mood affects self-esteem. But you aren't really interested in how tick-tock itself might impact self-esteem. If that's the case, you can just do a couple of searches for tick-tock and mood and a couple of searches for mood and self-esteem. And leave out searches that would include tick-tock and self-esteem together. And it might also be the case that one of these elements is the main part of your paper. And so you really want to go in depth on that. If that's the case, use that element individually as a search potentially. So say self-esteem is your big variable. You could try to just search for self-esteem. And so if you can find any larger or seminal sources that focus on this topic, and then you can branch out into the others as appropriately. So now let's address what happens if you can't find much information about one of these elements. So yes, next slide, please. Thank you. So this goes back to the example I mentioned earlier with my peers who wanted to research Instagram. So let's say you're doing the same topic as before, how tick-tock affects mood and self-esteem. But when you start your search, maybe instead you can't find any real searches that actually include tick-tock. Because it's such a new platform that not a lot of scholarly work has been published on it. So instead here you can split tick-tock up, your variable of tick-tock up, as so. So Chris, if you could click a couple of times, perfect. So instead of looking at tick-tock as your main variable, you can split it up into predominantly social media. So whatever social media platforms you might feel appropriate or just the topic in general. But put the specific element of tick-tock to the side. Okay, and click again for me, Chris, please. From there, you can research how these different social media platforms impact mood and self-esteem. And you can do it using a similar approach to the last screen. Or if you can find some resources that you want to use, that's fine as well. But the point is, is that you have sources that demonstrate how social media works in conjunction with these two other variables. And now here is where the beauty of synthesis really comes into play. So if you take, go back to the idea of tick-tock and find some descriptive sources, like maybe even a corporate source that just talks about what it is as an app. Then you look at the social media platforms that you examined in these searches. Give me a couple more clicks, Chris. And find some sources that describe them as platforms. You can then compare and contrast tick-tock to these other forms of social media. And if your argument allows, you can say that tick-tock is comparable enough to be substituted for whatever platforms you used here. And that its relationship should be similar to mood and self-esteem. Now, take a step back and I'm going to tell you that you will probably want to talk to your professor and potentially the writing center to make sure your logic is strong enough to support this leap for the substitution. But the point I'm making here is that while you probably wouldn't be able to construct this argument with a purely summary-based approach, with a synthesis approach, you still have a chance at researching this topic successfully. So overall, synthesis is about allowing you to be creative or innovative in your research process while still making sure that your argument is supported. It's about looking at your sources, filling in the gaps with using your search strategy, and making sure that everything works well together. And it's about constructing a search strategy that's about you and your specific topic. And now for a quick disclaimer. If this is an approach you're interested in but aren't sure if it fits within the parameters of your assignment, talk with your professor first. Once again, sometimes your assignment does call for a summary-based approach. And some fields are much more prone to acquiring this than others. But if you find that you are able to use synthesis but you aren't sure how to get started, then feel free to get in touch with us. You can always use our chat feature and we'll help you plan out how you can divide up your search into an appropriate strategy for whatever you're wanting to research. And so that is the end of this presentation.


What's the word y'all if you trade that line is always so fun. So far this year We don't have a ton of big big names potentially getting traded like we've already seen Pascal Siakham Oh, John and Obi and then the next biggest names is like Dejante Murray was completely different the last year Where we saw Carrie Irving and Kevin Arrant before about 12 hours yesterday. There were some bugs that the Lakers might be traded LeBron James now a Big majority of us never believed it and rich Paul has come out today and say a day bugging We're not asking to be traded. We're not being traded whatever whatever But for about 12 hours people was speculating a little bit and and again, I don't think he's got to get traded But I think it's a cool thought experiment. So this is where started off with David Pingalore He said he's hearing from NBA peeps the King jays at the top of the Lakers list to be traded 39 years old Polinka is looking for the right team to dance with and it's close to a suitor and then LeBron James and Anthony Davis were out in their game against balsa and they pulled out a Pretty big win against the best team of basketball without LeBron James and Anthony Davis It's how you know NBA fans are bored not specifically this with David is saying But because the Lakers went in and won that game against the Boston Celtics I saw a Lakers fans. Of course, don't represent the whole fan basically like see Everybody on the roster is just being used wrong players 3 through t I think this was my boy low tweet playing 3 through 15 are a lot better than y'all think They just being used wrong because of Ron and ad or whatever Now we're talking about a one game sample size here. So maybe take it with a grain of salt But in this game versus the the Boston Celtics obviously shot 51% from 3 which is crazy for the LA Lakers But I want to think about this this shot frequency Where in this game last night 35% of their shots came from the three-point line and then traditionally it's about 32% Now obviously we're talking about a one game sample size versus 40 plus games or the other But I think it's kind of interesting to kind of look at these factors So starting off with the frequency of the three-point shot now Normally the Lakers again are just really really bad when it comes to getting their three-point temps up 32% which is 28th and basketball last night again one game sample size versus the Boston Celtics up to 35% That is the 45% I would see oh not great But it's higher than what they're used to by 3% But they also shot it at a 51% clip. So part of them winning this game It's like, oh my god, we shot 51% from 3 But their shot diet completely flipped on his head because with ad and LeBron this season They're the number two team when it comes to shots at the rim I mean we're talking about a team that's going to pound to pound to pound it Get to the free throw line and so on and so forth when this game They did not get to the rim at all and there was a lot of mid-range jump shots a three-point shot So again, take that with a grain of salt because we're talking about a one game sample size And of course your shot diet is going to change where you're missing your top two players But we did see people like Austin Reeves v8 before he went down his injury and just other people play differently there is a pace to this game But anyway, let's get back to the LeBron James potential trade stuff Now that tweet from David Pingalore is coming off the backs of LeBron James tweeting an hourglass emoji the night before And I'd be like, oh, what does that mean because they had just lost the game in Atlanta where things look really really bad Um, so is this saying that there's a matter of time before somebody's getting traded? This is a matter of time before what it's darvin ham back on the hot seat We later found out that that was probably because he was doing a deal with draft kings At least that's what we think. I don't know now. We would normally take a report like this with a grain of salt Um, but David Pingalore has been writing on a couple things basically telling the world that LeBron James was about to go to la When nobody else really had the scoop he said that kawaii Leonard was gonna go to the go to the clippers And then he also had some speculation that LeBron James is headed back to the caps um So We like hold on Dude bro really got sources now I don't know all of the misses that he might have had in his career because Nobody did the research on missus, but he's got a couple makes is like, oh my god Maybe LeBron is potentially getting traded again We know now that he's not but that made me think about if LeBron was to be traded Who would the people that we think would be interested in what does that trade look like? What is the value of a 39 year old player who was still really really good? But also a guy that told the world that he's gonna try to team up with his son when that time comes at the end of the season We had to go to the basement set up. There are things going on upstairs regardless The video must go on. There are a couple different factors You got to think about when building a hypothetical fictional LeBron James trade again just as a thought experiment The first one is he's gonna want to go to a contender You're not LeBron James leave an la to go to another team that's not Gonna be in the playoffs or not gonna be competing for championship ring So it has to be a team that fits that and also with that being said has to be a team That doesn't have to gut their roster in order to bring LeBron James in because what's the point of being a contender right now If I got to trade my third fourth the fifth best player to get the LeBron James on a roster It doesn't really make sense But again, this goes back to the conversation of what is the value of a 39 year old LeBron James coming into the organization? Objectively, he's still one of the best players in basketball But does that mean that we want to give up four first round picks to get him on the last year of his deal? It's not going to be the same value that we would have got if in 2020 or 2016 or in 2005 like the man's been around for a very long time So this is probably the lowest trade value he's ever had but that doesn't mean it's no trade value You know I'm saying a player like LeBron James is caliber does not get traded very often I know we saw kevin aran get traded last year But that is an anomaly like at the deadline these caliber players top 10 players currently in basketball Do not get moved off. So I went to fanspo and I was like, you know, let me try to veer the couple trades a couple teams I think could maybe put it back together and LeBron James right now is trending the number one on fanspots Means that people have come to fanspots website said I'm building a LeBron James trade more than Dejante Murray D'Angelo Russell Evan 48. Dang Zach Levine and them didn't fail down because the bulls might not trade anybody Um, but now before I even build my trades I'm curious to what the community is saying the people that all the people that's putting together they LeBron James trades What does those look like? See somebody is just out here having fun Fantasy trading at least you'll be an honest LeBron James to Atlanta cut it out. Give me the ones from today The most upvoted one now is only three upvotes now.  This has been upvoted like crazy LeBron James Christian Wood in the least favorable of a 2026 for Chris Paul Wiggins in the most favorable of 2026 That's going to look fun. Now the Warriors were a team. I was like undoubtedly if this thing was happening There'll be a team that LeBron is going to think about and that the Warriors are going to think about too We're talking about two of the top. I don't know how many players in NBA history. It depends on where you have stuff Um Teaming up together on the second half of their careers It could be kind of legendary But I could see a lot of purists a lot of tradition is hating the idea because y'all competed so well for the last decade And now you're trying to team up It's kind of it's kind of weird, but this trait that this person puts together is awful Again, I don't think LeBron James got the value of 2016, but this This cut it out 100% was built by a Warriors fan just saying like here we get LeBron James in for nothing Let me see if I can do something Something so Chris Paul has to be in the deal right just to make the money match You if you if I am the Lakers right and I'm like, okay, we're going to trade LeBron James There's a couple of different ways we could go we could say hey We still want to build around anthony at 30 years old So we kind of want players and future assets because we could turn those future assets to real players, right? So chris paul's contract has to come in. I'm looking at the warriors draft capital and they got it They got a lot of their own first round picks. I'm gonna need a few of those. I want 2025 I won't uh, I want like a 27 Uh, let's just say that that's to start off with and the person that built that trade was like I will not trade jonathan kaminga. I will not trade brandon projimski. You trade jacks of davis I need a combination of some of these younger dudes I have I need them. I need them. I'm not paying. I don't want to pay wiggins I don't I don't want to break up sefkirk claytops of draemon draemon and lebron a homies now You know, so we don't want any of those pieces But you got to fill out the roster with some of the younger dudes And if i'm the Lakers i'm asking for for kaminga and maybe the warriors say no because kaminga has been that good That i'm not trading jonathan kaminga for lebron james that that might be something they would say But even with that we need a little bit more money and that's where it gets tough So maybe you do throw in wiggins, but if i'm the lakers I need an extra first round pick to take on that wiggins contract. I'm being honest with you I don't love this but financially this does not work. All right It still does not work. Oh because of the contracts are way too big. Hold on. Hold on. Here take our injure gape Vincent This is not a good trade package either But this this is probably the start of it. This is probably the start of it. Ah The next team I thought about was The nicks 100 fits every piece of criteria that I mentioned earlier The nicks have been one of the two hottest teams in all the basketball since the og on a nobi trade They're even winning a bunch of games now the jeweler's rando is out It doesn't even really make sense too much But they have the potential assets to make this happen now in this hypothetical trade It is gonna have to get rid of julius rando in this one But if you're getting back lebron james who's like a a super super hero version of jeweler's rando You're probably okay with how many q grinds back. He's already disgruntled anyway I mean you the nicks are trying to get rid of him in real life So that's not that big of a deal and just to make the money match We need one of josh heart or dancy divincenzo nicks fans. Y'all can argue amongst yourselves or which one would you rather give up Oh, no Every four years money makes it makes it work. This trade works right here. Okay money wise it works So now it's like hey nicks. We know you got a wizards pick We know you got a pistons pick now again. These are protected very heavily So they may not even convey you got dialysis pick this year You got milwaukis next year like you have so look at all the picks that the nicks have ropa lakers like i'ma need Six of them because because julius rando's all mba caliber player But him playing alongside anthony davis is not something we really interested in we might want to flip him to a third team anyway So give me some picks. I don't know how many you tell me what about these guys now You can argue whether or not this will be an upgrade for brawn, right? um Because this is a team that also does not shoot many threes and now in this hypothetical trade tyler hero is going out Now some of the three-point shot making you have it's just gone in order to bring brawn here So maybe that's not the smartest thing, but we know air exposure and brawn have won a few championships together Turn them back to the land already conversations about the combination of jared allen and eva mobily But if we send one of them to la the one I saw a lot was this one I don't think the thunder on the position where they're like let's add 39 year old lebron james, you know But they could make it happen so easy because look at this Look at this Look how many strolls I have to do to get down there. Look at all of this. Look at all of that So they could make it happen with draft capital by itself And like the mavericks just don't have enough to make it happen. Uh, look their draft Board is uh, not a lot So they're not a ton of ton of teams that would be able to put together the fictional trade to get lebron james But there are some like with the the lakers don't just want a few of these first round picks in a bunch of Seconds do they like the 76 obviously we don't know who's going on with joel and beads knee So maybe that's just a non-starter for a lot of people But they're gonna they have the money to match this 47 million Do they have the the draft picks now some of these draft picks are just not good like Okay, see houston la the worst of that's not a very good first round pick, but it is a first round pick It's just fun How often do you get a rumor that one of the best ever is about to be traded? Whether the rumor was true or not it gots to make you think and I hope it made you think and you Had some fun too. Leave a like subscribe and I'll see y'all