Anybody want to chat? Anybody want to help old needers out and have a chit chat? It's cold. Santa Ana winds have kicked up. I don't want to turn the heater on because the filters have been cleaned so it would just like blast dust in here. So I'm layered. I had an appointment to get my eyebrows done and then my agoraphobia kicked in and I didn't make it. I hope you guys will come in and chat with me. I have a few things I want to talk about and you guys have always been here to help me and some call in Dr. Bombay as like I always do. It's not necessarily about weight, but about life and about health and about one day at a time. Hi, Ana. Is my neck stiff? No, I'm cold. It's just a scarf. I'm going one day at a time. Today is a good day. Today. I actually got out of bed before before 1 o'clock. I got out of bed at 8 30. Hi, Mary. Oh, I'm happy to see you too. Is it Wendy down there? Hi, Bobby. Hi, Roberta. Oh, I was hoping you guys would all pop in and keep me company. I'm so used to just sleeping, sleeping, sleeping. I haven't needed any company. But I was sitting here on the couch and I'm like, okay, well, what should I do? Hi, Kathleen. Oh, gosh, maybe I should have some lunch and I looked at the clock and it was only 11 o'clock. All right. Well, I need to do some talking. Hop on. See who's out there wants to talk back. Am I freezing? I'm, you know what, Bobby? Do you guys have your water? I haven't said it in so long, but I'm cold only because, well, not only because, but I got got ice water in here and our Santa Annas have kicked in. So we have really old windows. So it does get cold in here. Hello, Barbara. You know what? I should have made some some decaf, Bobby, before I hopped on here. But you know me, I just get in the mood to talk to you guys. And I just hop on no matter, gosh, pitiful. Hello, Jessica. Thank you. I love it too. I mean, I I needed it like I needed a hole in my head, but I got it. So I just wanted to get on here and talk selfishly for my own reason, because I'm trying to very, very, very slowly make a plan on getting my life back. And I know that some of you will talk with me about that. And I know that some of you won't. And that's totally cool. Even if one of you will stick it out with me so I can talk to somebody, that would be awesome. Those 15 of you guys in here. Hi, guys. Hi, Jackie. Thank you. I miss you guys, too. So much going on, as you guys know. What's going on with me, Bobby? Let me let me. I know you will. And thank you. I'll crack it down in a nutshell. Everybody knows. But for anybody who if you're new here, welcome. I have to say that I'm normally very chipper, happy. Fun. I like to think of fun. Hello, Sandra. I'm not a beat gal, but I've had this last. Well, we know the year of the sea kicked all of our butts. And then this last.  My daughter passed away. And during the sea, which I don't say the word because YouTube doesn't like the sea word or all the words pertaining to that that that season of our life, then they they push our videos back and nobody can see them. So so during yeah, Bobby, and I got to be really careful because I want to come on your talk and get my ideas out on what I plan to do, what I want, what I want to do, whether I can do it or not is a whole other opera. But so I'm going to be really careful in what I say, because I don't want to start crying. Was it the no, it wasn't. OK, so this is I'm trying not to make this a downer video. It's just it is what it is. Thank you, Jackie. During the second half. Of that great season, I went into huge, huge depression. And a gore phobia set in. So I was like, literally a prisoner in my own home. I wouldn't go anywhere. Thankfully, I'm married to my prince charming, who does all the shopping and does everything I need. I mean, even if I need something in the garage, he'll go get it for me. You know, it's like, I don't go to the garage. But I can't get to the market and I can't get to marshals and I can't get to home goods and it's really hard for me to drive. OK, so I was already there already in that place. I stopped watching what I was eating. I stopped any kind of exercise whatsoever. Because I didn't care. And then, let's see, December the. Seventh. My daughter's place of employment called and said that she hadn't been in for three days. And that I was on the emergency list. Could I help them? They had called the police. The police. It's very, it's very interesting. I'll explain it to you in a minute. The police went to her home and they could hear her phone ringing in her bedroom that she wasn't answering it and her door was locked. But they wouldn't they wouldn't pound the door down. So I hung up with the landlord and I immediately called the fire department and they went over there. They were there so fast, you guys. I just want to tell you right now, if you need somebody to bust the door down, don't bother with the police. Call the fire department. And they got over there and they they found my daughter in her bedroom. And she had been passed away, probably two to three days. So the most horrendous thing that can happen to any of us as mothers, right? I'm not going to cry because I came on here to talk about what I'm going to do to get my life back because I need to get my life back. We haven't gotten the autopsy back yet. So we still don't know how she passed away. They found her on her bed. So, of course, I just went back into a deeper depression, never got out of bed, all that stuff, all the stuff that you would imagine as a mother yourself or any of those things. I did, you know, I just didn't do anything. All of our Christmas stuff is still up because I just don't feel like taking it down. We had Chelsea's Memorial last Saturday. It was the most beautiful memorial I've ever seen. It was everything I wanted and more for her. We got so much love and so much support. And there were people there from her kindergarten class to her her current job that she had and people in between in her life and people from my life. And it was just it was beautiful. It was amazing. So what's today's Friday, right? Today, for some reason, I was able to get out of bed. I woke up at eight. I swung my legs over and I got out of bed at eight thirty, which, trust me, you guys, it was a huge feat. Swung my leg over, it was a huge feat. And I got up and I made some coffee and I made it normal, a normal. I got your card, Tracy. Thank you so much. A normal morning. I had some coffee. I turned on the news.  I haven't taken a shower since last Saturday, since her funeral because when you don't care, you don't care, right?  It's just I just stayed in the same clothes. I changed out my shirt maybe sometime. Brushed my teeth. That was the one thing I always did. So today is my first day of living life normally and it is huge progress, Tracy. It's it's I wish you guys knew how huge it was. Sorry, I can't talk right now. I can't talk right now.  It's it's I mean, it's it's my heart's shattered. Thank you. My heart's shattered. And so many pieces, but I have to tell you this. Like I said, there was a large turnout and we were sitting in the front row.  We didn't ask him to. We didn't suggest it. We didn't put anything in his head. All we knew is is the lady who did the program for us, who raised Chelsea in the school that she went to. Can't believe this. Was kept just saying anybody else?  And next thing I know, my boy, who's 12 feet tall in his suit, got up there and he talked and he thanked people for coming for his mommy. And I was just blown away. I've never been so proud of anybody in my entire life. I'm not going to cry because we've got to move on. So that's where we are. So today I get up. I actually I had coffee. I had a yogurt and I've decided that and I'm talking baby steps. You guys, because she's she's only been gone a little bit over a month. Having a cup of coffee, taking a shower and getting dressed in clothes that are not pajamas is a huge, huge feat for me. When Steve comes home and he sees that I've brushed my hair and got dressed. I should spritz little perfume on, right? He's going to be shocked. And I can't do it all in one fell swoop. It would be unnatural for one. It would be disgraceful to me and to Oliver. So I'm just going to take it a little at a time. And like I've been reading some different things that have been suggested to me. I'm going to go in the in the kitchen now. The kitchen needs to be unloaded and loaded. I'm just going to unload it. And then when I feel like loading it, I'll load it. But I'm not going to whirlwind through the house. Oh, the laundry, though. Oh, my God, you guys. OK, so let's go back to let's get off this and go back to weight. When I got into my depression during the bid, I gained. Sixty pounds, six zero, not 16, not six. I gained 60 pounds. I am the heaviest I've ever been in my life right now. And then with the passing of my girl. Oh, boy, I just really I mean that it was like. And you're right, Bobby, the weight can wait, but I'm so unhealthy. I'm so extremely unhealthy. Getting up and down my stairs is just a feat. Um, and I don't like the way I feel. And I don't like the reason I have piles. Oh, oh, that was weird. It's in one person.  Or I'm I'm referring to myself. So nobody take offense if you're overweight or whatever. And I have piles of when I was thinner. I mean, I'm so in piles of clothes in between. Right. So I need to start just working on myself. I haven't moved my body, my body just aches. And I'm going to just do a little bit at a time. And I came on here to say this so that I can be held accountable somewhere. I'm going to pull my treadmill out. And even if I only walk on it for five minutes a day, that's five minutes more than I've been walking in the last two years. Close up, Bobby, you have no idea my because I carry all my weight in my stomach, my stomach, holy cow. And it's hard to hide unless you can find a nice long tunic. Right. Hey, do any of you guys know where to find a nice long tunic with a v-neck because the way I'm built, that would be ideal. Like the shirt I have on now, of course, is one of my Disney shirts, but it's warm. I don't even look pregnant, Bobby.  It looks like I'm carrying a binary. My name is Mary and I'm fat. I'm so big right now, but I have to think about my mental health and my health health before I worry about my weight. Now, Nina, your weight goes with your health health, indeed it do. But when life was normal and those of you guys who know me and I was doing W.W. regularly, Bobby, quick, trying to make me laugh. All I focused on was W.W. And I was healthy. Well, now I'm going to do it the other way around. I'm going to work on eating the healthiest foods. I'm going to start tracking again. I completely stopped tracking probably about four months ago. And no, it's funny. I need a laugh.  I've never had it before. So in my head, my plan is I'm not going to focus so much on my weight. You know what is so weird? This freaked me out.  And I'm with my height. If you were to see me next to my cousins and everything, it's a little funny. And she told me that when she saw my pictures on Facebook at my lowest weight, she thought I was sick. She was she said she was scared that she thought I was sick, but she was afraid to bring it up. Oh, to be so sick again, right, to be down to that weight.  I just didn't care.  We're going to stop. We're going to go to Costco this weekend and we're going to pile up on some good foods and some good veggies and some good fruits and some yogurts and all that stuff. She didn't mean it meanly, Bobby. She just meant she's known me since we were in the sixth grade and that was the thinnest she'd ever seen me. So it just kind of alarmed her a little bit, you know. Oh, yeah, ice cream, you name it, we have it. And so that's my plan. I'm just going to take it a little itty, bitty bit at a time. Just a little itty, bitty, bitty bit at a time. There's 36 of you guys in here on Bobby, Mary and Tracy are the only ones that are in here in Jessica. We've got people in the back seat crocheting a doily whenever I'd asked my mom what she was doing. She would say she was crocheting a doily. So I'm going to come on here every now and then just to chat to you guys because you've always been here for me. You always chat back. You've always encouraged me. I always feel a thousand times better after I'm here talking to you guys. One of my best friends flew in from Tennessee for Chelsea's funeral, which was wonderful. Lots of folks that I haven't seen in a long time that just it made my heart swell. It really, it really did help. It was it was lovely. I know Bobby and I appreciate you guys so much. But I, you know, and I've got to go do something. See, that's how depressed I've been. I haven't even looked in a mirror, but I think I, you know, OK, thanks, darling. Sometimes I get on and I just talk to people and other times it's like people will call me because they know I need to talk and I just don't even answer the phone. I just I it's I know I can do it Esther. And you know what?   It's a pitiful, pitiful sight. Hi, Judy. You guys, Judy Huff is a friend of mine. We go way, way, way, way back. She's popping in to say hi. I'm so glad. Hi, Andrea. And I'm going to practice when I preach. I'm going to just after I hang up with you guys. I say the hang up. I'm going to put on my tennis shoes. I never quit W.W. Barbara. I just quit life, you know. W.W. went with everything else. How are all of you guys? Are you guys all doing OK?   Or is everybody doing OK? I, you know what? I me too, Esther. And I'm, you know, Hi, Linda, I've missed you too. I've missed all you guys. I've wanted to come on here, but I had to wait until I had to wait until I could compose myself. I wasn't going to get on here and, you know, make everybody cry. So that's it.  So we need to throw those out. Probably should take down the Christmas stuff. But again, a little at a time, I'll take down one Christmas thing today. And maybe I'll take another one now tomorrow.  I've heard that a lot. I've heard that for a lot of people. I'm just waiting to see who's here, you guys. Bobby, I'm not even going to entertain anything like that. Like I said, if I might the front of my driveway is roundabout and if I can walk that three times, that will be that will be what's the word? Somebody give me a word. Give me a word. It'll be fantastic if I can do it because I haven't been moving. Remember the hole in my old couch? I'm making a hole in my new couch. So yeah, I'm just going to I've got to start moving my body. I. I just I just need to going up and down the stairs. That's just so I'm going to move a little each day. I'm going to drink my water again. I haven't been drinking my water at all. At all.  I'm checking it off. I'm going to start tracking again. I'm going to look back over my recipes and try to remember some of hold on a second. OK, some of the things that I really liked. I can't believe my cousins didn't say anything to me about it at the funeral. They probably thought, well, she feels bad enough as it is. We're not going to tell her she needs to go get her eyebrows fixed. My gosh, I'm trying to think if there's anything else. If anybody has any questions or anything, but yeah, a little walking a day I'm going to drink my water every day. And I'm going to we don't we haven't had we have been eating so poorly that we don't even have any food in the house. We have a couple of yogurts. We have some pirate's booty and that's about it. Oh, potato soup. Do you know what the points are for that? See, it's not for me, Bobby. I just gave up. It's just I literally, literally gave up. I like water after I started drinking soda. I don't you guys know me. I don't drink soda. Steve keeps it in the downstairs fridge and then he grabs one when he goes to work and he puts it in his thermos or I'm sorry, in his lunchbox. And I was like, you know, I feel like a Coke, a cherry Coke. I feel like a seven up. And next thing you know, I was drinking soda. I was like, oh, my gosh. And I think that kind of had a little twing to make me realize that how how bad is getting how high my weight is. My weight is so high. And I just I'm not going to do all these things just for my weight, but for my weight, my health. And then it can only help my mental health, too. If I'm feeling physically healthy, it'll help my mental health, which is what I need the most with. I'm so tired of crying. I do, too. Tracy, I just track it for, you know, how much ever it is.  To me, it doesn't taste any different. I guess I'm just lucky that way. Well, I'm not having any more. I'll tell you that. I just had it. I'll tell you when it started, it started. I had a stomach ache. And when I have a stomach ache, I like to drink seven up and because I burped it all out. And then it was like, oh, that tastes kind of good.  I'm just going to start drinking some more. You know what? I don't like Girl Scout cookies. That's another good thing for me. I did try some diet, diet cherry seven up, but it just I couldn't I couldn't handle it. Captain. So I think that we're going to go out to dinner tonight. I'd like to. I think maybe I'll plan it. I have a couple of bucks stashed away. Yeah, it can totally be done. Absolutely. You don't have to eat the whole carton. So, you know, I guess, hi, Cheryl, it's great to see you too. I guess one of the I say I came on here for selfish reasons in that I would be accountable for. Again, the tiniest, tiniest steps of getting my life back. My health back. But when I say getting my life back, I truly mean my life. I need it back. I need it for Steve's sake. He's he's he's he's tired of taking care of me. He doesn't say anything, of course. But I mean, he does everything. He puts my blanket on me when I'm sitting on the couch. He brings me Kleenex when I'm sitting and crying. He brings me dinner. He does everything. He never complains and I need he needs a break. The man needs a break from it all. So I want you guys to support me. And that's why I came on here, because I knew you would. I knew you would support me. Christoffer came down. That was one good thing. My son came down, of course, for his sister's funeral. And that was fabulous to have him here. It was really great to have him here. I miss him so much. I'd like to go up and see him and see his new house and everything he lives in Washington. So I'm going to work on Steve on that. And like that, I guess that's it. I'm going to walk a little bit. I'm going to drink my water.  So I'm going to start off with these four things. I have to get my body moving. That's the most important. Thank you guys for popping in here and just chatting with me just for we've only about about half an hour. I truly do appreciate it. I'm here alone all the time, especially since Oliver moved out. I'm really alone. He has a wonderful husband, Cheryl. I mean, he's just I my sleeping isn't on par either. So I'm up all night and down all day and then I get up at night and watch TV. And thank you, Mary. Thank you, all you guys. I appreciate it and come over to Instagram. Love you guys. I think I got to try to figure out something to do right now so that I don't lay down and take a nap. I don't want to take a nap. I'm sleeping my life away. I don't even remember what happened in the last two years. Oh, no, Mary. Oh, my gosh, I hope you're OK. Don't be disgusted and angry. That's not going to help. And it's not going to I'm so sorry, Mary. I'm so sorry. All right, kids. I need to use the little girls room. It's so nice, Judy.  I haven't been going on Facebook very often because it's it's so boring. It's like all I have are ads and people that I don't know. It's like it's not interesting at all. Mary, I'm so sorry. I hope you're OK. And now you probably don't want to put all your in. I'm so sorry to hear that. All right, I have to use the little girls room. Why? Because I'm drinking my water with my lipstick all over that I always do that, right? I love you guys. Put your notifications on. Give me a like if you want, because I'm going to try to get back in this because this is what I loved. Thank you, Linda. Thank you. I'm going to cut out now before the waterworks start. And I sure love you guys and I sure appreciate you being here. I'll be back.


Despite sound of explosion thundering the area in Ukraine's southeastern Zaporizhia region, agriculture machine keeps driving towards the fields, belonging to farmer Uriai Lupinos. There was an impact in the village nearby, it is just 500 meters away from us. Despite how scary it is, people keep working because we need means to live. I have to pay salary to my workers, Lupinos, wearing flak jacket, told Reuters. Lupinos said he is struggling to sell his goods at a reasonable price as the war disrupted logistical roots for exporting farm products, which is not the only reason. Ukraine has long been known as the breadbasket of Europe. Its fertile black soil, large expanse of flat plains and deep black sea ports enabled the country to become a major exporter of grain across the world. Agricultural exports are vital to the economy, making up about 12% of gross domestic product before Russia's invasion and about 60% of all its exports, and are crucial to feeding some parts of the world including the Middle East and Africa. But the invasion has upended much of that. Grain output is likely to have slumped to about 53 million tons in clean weight in the 2022 calendar year from a record 86 million in 2021. This year it could drop as low as 44.3 million.


Is it possible that caring about being good at math or being good at math is actually just part of Asian culture at this point? David, this meme is going viral and we got to talk about it. Yeah, let's run the clip. Oh my gosh, so happy for first, second, third, fourth place. Oh, Chinese. Yeah, so these are the actual teams. The meme for the most part is correct. We'll show you the Canada team. David, from afar, a lot of these girls just look Chinese. They're not all Chinese. There are some Indian girls. The UK team had a Vietnamese girl on as well. A Vietnamese girl. I think there's a Korean girl. But honestly, essentially, and maybe Chinese more than other people, they just really care about being high level math people. Yeah. And this is what they care about. No, we're talking about hyper, hyper, elite, tier, upper crust, top, 00.1% math elites. Most of them are Asian and most of them are Chinese, regardless of whatever Western country they're representing. These memes have been going around for both boys and girls for five, six, seven years now. And we got to talk about it. Is the stereotype true? Is it not true? And what goes into it? Because this always sparks an internet discussion in the comments section. Yeah, let's get into the comments section. But I will say this, before we get into it, I see all Asians celebrating this.  Asians are really good at something. And it's like that that is cool to see that there's not a bunch. There's not like a movement against this being like, Yeah, see, I told you I'm not Asian because I'm not good at math. Right. Um, this allow girl had this comment once you go Asian, you solve the equation. I actually never even heard that one before. Um, what do you think it is? This is popularized in modern culture. Andrew Ryan Gosling's character in the big short has a very famous quote where he's trying to justify his math by going, Look at his face. Look at his eyes. You're completely sure of the math. Look at him. That's my quant. You're what? My quantitative. My math specialist. Look at him. You notice anything different about him? Look at his face. That's pretty racist. Look at his eyes. I'll give you a hint. His name's Yang. He won a national math competition in China. He doesn't even speak English. Yeah, I'm sure of the math. Actually, my name's Jung and I do speak English. Jared likes to say I don't because he thinks it makes me seem more authentic. And I got second in that national math competition. Yeah, I think a lot of quants are Chinese though. Actually, to be honest. And by the way, here is a couple algebra problems from the 2022 Olympiad. Anyway, let's get in the comment section. Make sure you like subscribe, turning your notifications. Somebody said, I kind of see a pattern here, but I'm not sure what it is. And somebody said, Yeah, I see the pattern too, is that they all have glasses.  Is this true, man? A lot of Asians do have glasses. Yeah, I think what I heard is that it is about the amount that we study and read a lot of Asians like focus on small little letters. Maybe it's either if it's like writing Asian like language characters like Chinese characters, for example, or just reading books a lot, your eyes might not be that good. Alright, and that does sound like a fake made up hilarious theory. But there actually you read this, right? No, I, no, I did not. It's not fact. Okay. I don't know, maybe, but but there is some, you know, I heard it has to do with the strain due to increase studying hours at a very young age. It's possible, man. This guy said, Is this why I always get stuck doing the calculations for the bill when I go out with my friends? That's pretty funny. I oftentimes do the calculations too. And I take pride in it, but I'm not going to lie. Sometimes it takes me a while because someone else got like a drink for themselves and then that throws everything off. Do you think though that groups of like, let's say, for example, there was other races around like a group of white people or a group of black people, whatever, non Asian group, friend group. Do you think when they need to calculate something, everybody's like, No, dude, at the end of the day, if that's your Asian friend and you know they're not good at math, then you've probably already had that joke or conversation. Also, there's a lot of apps that do this for you. Do you think that the Asians that hang out with mostly white or black people or whatever, just non Asian group of people might be the Asians that aren't good at math? That's possible. Or I don't want to say not good at math. I just want to say they don't care about being good at math. David, even ourselves, man, are I, you know, I scored 750 on my math portion. That's not bad for a guy who literally does not. I don't talk about that. I would say for a Chinese guy, you are not considered good at math. No, no, within the Chinese world. Yeah, within the Chinese world. Yeah. But like we said, every community got different standards and thresholds for things and different ways they rank things low, middle, high. This guy said, Yeah, that's the same for the ping pong world championships too. And someone said, Yeah, it's the exact same team. The math team takes breaks. So they play ping pong during lunch. A lot. And like, let's say, David, playing ping pong, is that part of Asian culture at this point? Because a lot of and maybe if we need to narrow it down and be really nuanced, I can go ahead and say like, I think Chinese people love ping pong. And now just look at these teams. Have you ever looked at the badminton Olympic teams for a lot of countries, including European countries? Sometimes there's somebody who looks like this. Well, they're not on the basketball Olympic team. Okay. Hell no. Somebody said, Why are Chinese good at math? Believe it or not, when Chinese kids learn Chinese, when they are growing up, they count each stroke while they are writing a character. This helps wire the brain in ways that are useful later for math and geometry. So I don't know if this is true, but maybe it plays a small part. But actually, a lot of people have written a lot of lists about why Asians like math. And one of the things is, and this has to do with Chinese language, is that counting in Chinese is faster. As we know, when you say you don't have to say 1112, all these new words that make no sense. You just say 10-1, right? So it's just easier to count. So in that way, it might be better. It's already more math. You're already doing math right there by just adding it together. Somebody said, Yeah, look at the comments.  This is a Chinese person saying this to the Chinese diasporic people because obviously all the Europeans or white people or whatever people, Western people see this meme. They're like considering the American in the UK or whatever team Asian. Yes, exactly. So this is kind of a shot at the Westernized Asians saying that, Yo, you're always going to be viewed as Chinese, no matter what. Anyways, Yeah, that was like a whole identarian side angle, but also not not fully wrong either. Somebody said it's just a numbers game. The reason why the Asians in the US are better at math is because you're in contact with the Asians that are better at math. Those are the ones that emigrated out of China in the seventies and are more rich and or educated. They bring up children that are educated. They bring up children of their children that are educated. The uneducated bad and math Asians are still stuck in Asia. All right, this comment is interesting. And I agree with part of it. It is not entirely true because as we know, there are a lot of different types of Asians who came to America, even different types of Chinese, right? And they're not all like educated. Absolutely not, right? And a lot of the parents, not all of them are nerds and dorks. And it is true that I would guess that a lot of these elite elite tier math leads, their parents may be teachers, professors, engineers or academics of some type, brain workers. I'm not highly likely like nine out of 10. This is where the stereotype David can get very specific. Should we say that Asians from educated families really care about math? Like that's not a crazy statement. Is that like a generalization? Yeah, but obviously, yeah, I don't know. I mean, this, this, this comment had to do with self-selecting, self-selective immigration waves. Right. And how does that skew our perception or our biases or our stereotypes? Because a lot of people in America and we only know what we know in America, we're not living in Asia where even like the scariest gangsters are still Asian, right? But even, and it's been well documented guys, all the schools in Asia, essentially they drill math faster at a younger age. I'm not saying they're all smarter or better people. Because some people say, oh, it's all rote memorization. It's not as creative math or as problem solving. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I'm just saying they're good with the multiplication table very quickly. Somebody said now do this with basketball teams around the world. And then somebody said, yeah, what would they look like? This was a comment, by the way. This was not what I said. Yeah, yeah, obviously. I mean, that's, that's a funny comment because we all know what they're talking about. Yeah. I mean, let's just say right now, obviously it's Dirk Nowitzki right now, the best German player in the NBA right now. I mean, I guess you could say it was Mo Wagner, but it could be Dennis Schroeder or, you know, the best player out of Japan, Andrew is still Rui Hachimura. I mean, the best player from Greece is Yanis. Yes, exactly. So I guess, uh, yeah, I mean, that's. And guess what?  So I guess this goes back to that question of stereotypes. If you show the basketball teams from different countries and a lot of the guys and not all of them will be, but a lot of them will be black of some African heritage. And then if you show the math teams and then a lot of the people predominantly are Asian, I guess like people right off the bat, they're just gonna be like, Oh, Asians like math and they're good at that.  You know what I mean? Like that's the easy stereotype. But it obviously is more complicated than that. But we are talking about the highest level of things. Yeah. I mean, I guess we are referring to a lot of countries that have a high volume of immigrants though, Andrew, the UK, Canada, Australia, United States. These countries theoretically should be pulling, I guess what some of the strongest people from around the world at whatever they're good at or something like that. Somebody said this joke is getting older. This keeps happening year after year. Then white people are going to be having a crisis. Do you think that white people are in a crisis if they no longer are like any of the top athletes in their in a country that was originally, you know, I guess primarily white people? Yeah, actually, if you look at the boys team on the US side, there is it looks a lot more diverse, I guess I would say that's more diverse in the sense it's less Chinese. Right. But the girls Olympiad teams, they seem very, very Asian. So I don't know if it's like about like value systems, even like putting gender into it. Yeah. Yeah. You guys know about China, the men and the women are actually quite equal relative. It's like actually not very patriarchal relative to even other East Asian countries. Somebody said if you can't beat them, join them. Somebody said there's also a culture of ignorance in the United States in Asian countries, it's more cool to be smart compared to the cultures of the West. Being into building model rockets in fourth grade would yield very different social backlash in those two anthropological environments. Basically, long story short, Andrew, in America, there is a culture of ignorance around knowing uncool things, even if those uncool things like math are incredibly important for society. Right. Right. And I just feel like that's why I want to say the stereotype should be that not Asians are necessarily good at math, but they care about being good at math. Like Asians care. I think a lot of I think anybody can be good at math if they care enough. But to be honest, a lot of people don't care. But a lot of people use that as an excuse. And I actually went on a math Reddit board to do some research and somebody said, Listen, this is their studies have shown this until you get to a very advanced level of math beyond what you'd be normally studying at a base level in college. You actually do not really need any unusual aptitude to learn the math.  And it certainly seems that Asians on average study pretty hard and enjoy math or at least don't hate it. David, you know what the Chinese guy once told me? And this is a real quote. He said he was born in Asia. He was like, You know, to me, I have fun solving a math problem. That is how I get my dopamine. Like I have fun. It feels good. Right.  You know how you feel when you hit a three pointer, David? Right. That's how he feels when he solves a math problem, math algorithm, you know, and I'm just saying once you have that built into you, and that's not necessarily something you're born with, I don't necessarily believe. No, because a lot of people will be like, Oh, well, you know, it's Asians, they like math. It's sewed into their double helix. No, it is taught that they draw enjoyment from it.  And I think there's a culture in Asia of like cheering each other on in math class, too. When the one guy who did the toughest math problem, people are like, Oh, wow, look at that guy. He solved that in America. They're like, look at this sexless nerd.  No, it's true. That's the American culture. Obviously, I'm saying it in extremes, but that's the truth. Somebody said, What do you expect from people who invented the world's first calculator? Obviously, we're talking about the abacus. Nice. Um, Andrew, let's just get into our takeaways, man. What do you think about this? Because this, the comments could go on forever because guess what, Andrew, this meme is going to pop up again next year with a whole new group of people that are still going to look Asian. I mean, if you look at the careers that a lot of Asians end up going to, even if you come from a mathematician family or not, a lot of them end up going into accounting, engineering, finance, running a small business, which still is actually a lot of numbers. And these are all four things, bro. You better bust out a spreadsheet because you're going to need it for all of these jobs, essentially, or you need to know math on some level. Right. Right. Obviously, if you're doing engineering, you're going to need a command of much more advanced math. But if you're running a small business, the math is everything. At least the basic. Dude, you're going to be marking out your inventory. What costs this? Oh, I made this, even Bola fo. What's the cost of this bowl of fun? Good sold and exactly your cogs, all these things. So I guess like what I'm saying is that I think Asians are just exposed to math early on as part of life and they enjoy it and they feel like it's important to understand math because they they know that it's like the building block of a lot of things. But it is nerdy. I'm not going to lie. It's nerdy. It is. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. I mean, if you looked at all the kids that were the ultra high tier math elites, they don't look like the kids on Tik Tok or IG. I'm a YouTuber. You think I know how to read this problem here? Let a sequence of n and greater than less than one be the positive real numbers of the property that a and sequence to the second aid to I don't know. Yeah, I read this. I don't know, man. I think it is actually a great discussion about stereotypes as well. Like, are they just observable patterns? How problematic are stereotypes? How true are different stereotypes? Like, obviously, some are probably a lot more true than others. Obviously, I'm not saying stereotypes are true to 100 out of 100 level in the way that a lot of people misapply them. But clearly, there had to have been a pattern of observation that people noticed to even develop that stereotype in the first place, right? Yeah. But I'm not going to lie. Listen, I think it's going to be a funny meme for years to come. Do I think that that there's just going to be a lot more Asian kids that are math Olympiads?   And he's good. He saw it like he's still good at rapping. I smoke my calculus. Don't need no calculator. Anyway, guys, let's run the clip. Let us know what you guys think in the comment section below. What do you think of the stereotype that Asians are so good at math or that they love math more than other groups of people? Is it right? Is it wrong? And until next time, we're going to hop up boys. We out. Peace.


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This is Silicon Angles, the Cube, our flagship program. We go out to the events, extract the signal from the noise. We are at EMC World in Las Vegas. We are on the ground for three days, nonstop coverage, extracting the signal from the noise. We're in the main hall right next to the EMC TV. The buzz starts here, big signs, a huge event. I'm John Furrier, the founder of Silicon Angles. I'm joined by my co-host. I'm Dave Vellante at Wikibon.org. Vic Bagat is here. He is the new CIO of EMC. Vic, welcome. Thank you, Dave. Pleasure and great being part of this team, you know, and got a great ride ahead of me. Yeah, I'll say, you as an organization, I think EMC as an organization has done a fabulous job.  Somebody said to me the other day at EMC IT, we ride our own waves, you know. Joe Tujicum is a virtualized mission critical app. So we go out, we're going to do that and you do it. So, you know, very forward thinking organization, very collaborative with the business units. In part as a CIO of any IT vendor, you have to have a little bit of a marketing role. You go out, talk to customers. But tell us sort of, you know, your first, has it even been a hundred days? It hasn't, but first, you know, a few days, what have you learned? Anything that surprised you? Any impressions that you have? First impressions? No, absolutely, Dave. I think I like the champagne thing much better than the dog food stuff. But anyway, 90 days into the job, you know, and absolutely loving it. You know, this gives a completely new meaning to drinking through the fire hose. You know, this is a company that's at the leading edge of trying to drive transformation. This is kind of what I got excited about. I spent a lot of my career, my two thirds of my career, in large conglomerates. And this is something that's moving, you know, the pace is probably quickened 100 times, right?  Because you don't want to go to a customer, you don't want to go to a client and say, you know, use my solution, use my product, right? And the customer comes back and say, are you using it in your shop? And you're like, I don't know. No, yes I am. Here's the throughput I'm getting. Here's the results that I've delivered. Here's how I'm moving the needle for my business, right? That's how you build credibility by leveraging your own capability, your own solutions. And then going out of the customer and demonstrating to them. So what EMC has done, you know, as you talked about drinking your own champagne and eating your own dog food is, we have leveraged our own capability inside. And we have given it code names like propel, right? Where we are probably the largest shop that is running SAP, a total ERP system on a virtualized environment, right? Leveraging our own solutions that we can now go to market with and demonstrate to our customers and say it can be done, guys. Excellent. Vic, I want to ask you a question. Obviously, you're new to EMC and you have a range of experience looking at your bio. You've seen transformations before. Obviously, that's the theme of the show, is transformation. So my question to you is, what have you seen in your track record and your history? You've seen a lot of the movies before. We're in your career, can you point to saying, wow, this inflection point matches a lot of this era? And some of the challenges then and now that are different. And just as context, on the intro segment, we were saying, back in the day, multi-vendor was the big buzzword. I got to have a lot of choice of different boxes, support multiple vendors. Now it's about open, and the speed has changed. So do you agree with that? And two, what points in your career have you pointed to saying, wow, this was a big challenge, inflection point, here's how it transformed. And today, John, great question. So transformation right now is the key word in most of my peers outside of, you know, in the industry. How do we really drive that? And what does it really mean, right? You could talk about transformation is, am I really transforming IT? Am I transforming data centers? Am I transforming network, right? Or is that a more holistic, right? How do CIOs really absorb the word transformation, right? So great question. So here's the challenges that I have faced in my past, right? As I ran data centers of large companies, specifically at GE, data centers over time have grown by bolt-ons, right?  And we as CIOs have run our applications in containers, right? Individual container, individual application. The transformation is now going to be applied to how do you take those containers and truly drive a optimization use of your resources? So right now, if you look at, you know, how much am I using the resources of my servers? It's probably anywhere from four to 12%, right? When you drive virtualization environment, you drive convergence of infrastructure, leveraging the word transformation, you are going up to 80%. And that is what EMC is trying to prove because we're doing it internally. We have taken our own capabilities and we have driven a utilization north of 80% of our assets, right? That's a huge win for the CIO. That's what they want. That's what they want to embrace because no more is CEOs willing to give money to IT and say, go spend on capex. We got to figure out how do we really rein in or spend and be an accelerator to a business rather than with a tin cup and say, give me more money, give me more money, right? That's how the game is changing. So what does that mean from an organizational standpoint? And I'm interested in your philosophy as a CIO. So you talk about this movement from container to this new era. How does that change the organizational role and can you maybe dovetail that describing your philosophy of how you manage? Now, Dave, I mean, one of the key things that I will highlight is the role of a CIO is changing if it hasn't already changed. A CIO is no longer a chief information officer. I think a CIO now is called a chief innovation officer, right? Companies, CEOs are trying to leverage their technology expertise to really drive growth and enable their capability out in the market. A lot of the CEOs that I hear are talking to the street about data analytics, how they're going to change the game in analytics, how they're going to leverage big data. Well, guess what? All of that resides within IT's purview, right? How do you take unstructured, structured data and make meaning out of it to accelerate your business growth, right? That's the role a CIO has to play, right? Gone are the days when I was just trying to run my data centers, the pipes, the bandwidth, right? I have to look at it and say, all of that I'm going to partner with some key partners that are going to help me enable a lot of my pipes but I have to focus on business acceleration. And that's kind of what I'm trying to take this IT into an innovation road map versus a purely a productivity play. And a lot of organizations, that innovation is happening, you know, talk about shadow IT. There's a, you know, the meme in the industry about the CMO is going to have more money to spend on technology than the CIO. What you just said, I infer from what you just said is you don't believe that, I'm inferring. You're saying, no, it's the CIO's job to put together, for instance, a data architecture so that the organization as a whole can leverage it, not just the marketing department or the sales department. Talk about that a little bit.  They're going to the business leaders. They're going to the decision makers and saying, here's a solution we're bringing to your table, right, because what they got in the past from an IT is, oh no, no, no, don't come talk to us. We know how to run our shop, right? Gone are the days when business leaders had patients for five, six year ERP implementation roadmap. They don't. They want instant gratification. And if the internal IT is not going to change our thinking, our capacity and our capability, right, this is where the business is going to bypass and we're going to be completely- So what gives you confidence that CIO's will actually take that road and take the mantle and win that battle? Yeah, and I think, you know, from, and again, you know, you're highlighting some of the things that IT is extremely capable of, because when IT develops solutions for the business, guess who knows the most about that solution in IT? They know how it operates. They know from end to end how to deliver that solution. And if we just be very protective about our turf, we're going to lose the battle. We got to be extremely open. We got to look at it and say, how do we accelerate business performance? Not about how we accelerate IT, right? It cannot be internal. It's got to be very external focused. And that's why the innovative mindset, innovative culture is extremely important in a CIO's DNA. Now, versus an archaic CIO that I was looking at and saying, the more data centers I'd run, the bigger my job is. Vic, right? You were talking about the transformation, which is a great message. And the CIOs see the transformation. They have to be business-driven. The 10 cup example, IT has been over the years kind of bone down in terms of resources, do more with less, consolidate data centers. But now we're living in an era of exploding investment. It's a pretty much a no-brainer. Apps are there, mobile, acceleration, catalyst. So, okay, that being said, there's really no debate. There's a lot of now new money in the table to do the transformation. So I had to ask you a question. So Dave and I talk all the time about this term that I coined called ITIQ. Meaning that even though CIOs want to do it, the team doesn't potentially have the IQ to do it. Meaning that they're so stuck in the old ways, managing ports, I'm a DBA for Oracle, all this stuff's going on, then all of a sudden they have to be stood up to do new things. There's a lot of training, a lot of, in the transformation, you got to get the army of people to deploy. The consultants of the old, I won't name names, they made a lot of money for slowing things down. They charge a lot of money. So a new era of services firms out there. So how do you talk to a CIO who says, you know what, I want to up level my IQ, my team. And I want to move faster. How do you talk to that transformation execution? John, great point, I'm almost to a point where you should be the advisor to CIOs to really think differently. I think it's absolutely a very valid point. So let me cut it down into those phases that you talked about. First, let's talk about the money. The money is being spent on IT, but it's being spent on forward looking IT, not the backwards looking IT. Money is not being spent on data centers. Money is not being spent on buying more storage and more money is being spent on transformation of a business and how IT is going to enable that. That's where money is being spent. And that's where the CFOs, CMOs, the C's level suites are really focused on in saying, I will give you money if you help me transform my business. If you help me accelerate my business. Not if you want to buy more data center space or CAPEX and all that stuff. So that's how I look at the money being spent. The 10 cup thing was more, if I keep focusing on my old archaic data center, I have to go with the 10 cup. The old philosophy, the old ideology has IT is a black box. The more money you put in it, the more money it wants. And that's where the ERPs used to take five to six years. Give me $20 million and I will completely automate your supply chain. Those days are gone. But now IT's looking at Amazon, OpenStack, mobile apps, low latency infrastructure, SANS, commodity scale out versus commercial. So all this stuff going on. How do you get your teams to execute? You know, the CIO's like, I want to do it. Yes. Where do I start? Exactly. And that is where you raised that point about IQ, right? Do you have the right intelligence, right? That's driving those solutions. Do you have the right behaviors? And this may require changing and changing of the guard, changing of people and getting the right thought leaders, right? And engaging with the business. How much does the business really want to embrace you? So great points, right? And it is going to be a chasm that IT will have to really seriously think about how do we really cross this? We were all over that investment that GE made in Pivotal. And of course you worked at GE for many, many years and we talk about the industrial internet, the internet of things. Obviously things today are being driven by consumer, the whole mobile and social trend. Are the activities that are going on in the so-called internet of things, in your opinion, Vic, are they relevant in the near to midterm to enterprise CIOs? Or is that sort of a different vector of growth in our industry? You know, Dave, the proliferation of data capture and data generation is completely, generation is not people generation, but just generating of data, right? Whether it's from machine, whether it's from humans or our activity on Facebook and all that stuff. There's an enormous amount of data being generated, right? What we do with that data and how do we grab that intelligence to really give us a predictive capability is enormous, right? So as GE starts looking at it, GE is into poor things about infrastructure. I mean they are developing things of power generating, aircraft engines, healthcare, right? They do business with nations where they could really help with the infrastructure of a nation, right? But in order to be extremely predictive about how do I service my solutions that I'm going to install in a nation is an enormous task. So for example, you know, a GE, a 777 that flies on a GE90 engine every time it takes up and lands generates about terabytes of data, right? In machine, what do you do with that data? Can you do more predictive analysis of fuel burn that's going to help the airlines? The biggest loss of revenue for an airline is aircraft on the ground, right? How do you address that for a customer? How do a customer being a Delta or, you know, USA or American Airlines, how do you address that? Now you are helping them be more productive, right? So when you start peeling the onion and you start looking at how the data play happens, it's about information technology. How do you leverage information? How do you leverage technology to deliver information, right? So there's an enormous play for Pivotal and the things that you mentioned of how do you really accelerate that? So in this post-Y2K world, the theme has been do more with less, cut, you know, IT doesn't matter.  And we've seen just the percent of revenue that's spent on IT decline and so forth. The things that you're talking about now, these analytics, the big data pieces, the value potential, do you think that that will change that mindset at the corner office? There were CEOs who say, you know what, we can use IT as a competitive advantage. We actually want to start spending more. Do you think that will give an uptick to the IT economy? I think the companies that are really going to evolve are going to demand that out of their IT. They're going to want the IT to be more competitive. They're going to want their IT to be front-facing. They're going to want their IT to be customer-facing, right, those days of backroom IT are extremely limited because if that's where you want to play, you have a very limited capability of really partnering with your business leader. And you got to, if you, you know, it's not about getting a seat at the table, it's about, do you have a seat at the table or not? Right. Vic, what, switching gears a little bit, sort of getting back to sort of EMC IT in your new role, how are you going to judge yourself? What are the milestones that you want to hit over the next, let's say, 12 to 18 months? How should, you know, observers, what should they watch for? Yeah. I think from an EMC perspective, you know, I'll give you an EMC perspective as what attracted me to this company. You're going to find EMC be a phenomenal player in solutions about transforming not only your IT, but helping transform your business, right? How does, how can IT become more front and center for businesses, right? That's where EMC's game plan is going to be.  So it's not about just selling iron. This is about selling solutions, right, to the businesses. What I see from an IT perspective, right, what my role is going to be, is going to be how do I help my customers, not internal, but also my external customers, EMC's customers, to really understand how to contemporize information technology, right? How do you really change the game? How do you have that conversation with the C-level suite in saying, here is how IT can actually deliver, right? So we have a lot of irons in the fire right now that we are looking at and saying, how can IT really accelerate our ability to deliver? How can we get more intimate with our sales team that can leverage our capabilities from IT and our global solutions team, right? And then help develop a joint go-to-market capability that says, yes, I want to do business with EMC because they're doing it internally. Excellent. Vic, great to have you on theCUBE. Thanks for spending the time. First time on theCUBE, we really appreciate the candid conversation. And your job is a challenge.  You guys are drinking your own champagne, more importantly, taking it to customers in an era where, you know, we are moving to a modern infrastructure. And it's exciting, but also there's a lot of risks involved and but reward as well. So without risk, there's no reward. So again, we believe in the transformation to the businesses, great mission, great to have you on theCUBE. Thanks for sharing. This is theCUBE, our flagship program throughout the events. I'm John Furrier. I'm with Dave Vellante. We'll be right back with our next guest to hear about Flash, EMC's Flash products right after the short break.


Beyonce will sing him on stage, let's go. All right, thank you all for hanging in there. I'm Alex, thanks Huijing.  I'm a Mozilla tech speaker and a Mozilla raps mentor and what that means is I help other people volunteer for Mozilla, that's how I met Huijing.  Because I like the idea of a paycheck. That's gonna get recorded. Because I like the idea of a paycheck, I'm a JavaScript developer advocate at Nexmo. Has anybody heard about Nexmo before? Okay, Huijing, yeah. Huijing also works there, Huijing also works there. And I'm gonna talk to you about hands-on performance debugging tonight. Why am I doing this? Before being a developer advocate, I've spent seven years of my life building websites. Well, no, most of the time I spend debugging websites. The building part is easy. So I'm gonna try to debug the performance of a website. Now here's the kicker. I'll let you choose the website. I'm gonna debug tonight. There's no slides, everything is hands-on and I'll let you choose the website. So who wants me to, who has an idea for a website that can debug? Can I say Facebook? Facebook. No, okay. Okay, this is gonna be personal now, but then you'll see my Facebook profile. Okay. Carousel. Can someone help me type the U.N. alphabet? Yeah, dot.com. Okay, dot.com dot.sg. Right, so this is how it looks like. Right? Now, if I open DevTools, like everybody, when it talks about performance, it talks about how fast it runs. Let me tell you something. No matter how fast your JavaScript is, if it's 20 megabytes, it's still gonna be a good five seconds until it downloads. So when we talk about performance, I have three things I look at. And the most important thing, the first thing I look at is how fast is your user getting all the assets needed to run the website? No matter how fast your website is when it runs, it still needs to be all there for it to run. Now, I'm gonna do a clean one. Let me just, right. And I'm gonna look at the requests this page is doing. Now, because we live in the age of HTTP2, and you'll see most of the things in here have the HTTP2 header, it's being paralyzed. So there used to be a problem before HTTP2 with 1.1, where the browser can only do six connections at a time and whenever it connected to a new resources, it used to go to one by one by one and a lot of them were blocked in the queue. Now, you'll see if I go to my request, a lot are still blocked. The reason is HTTP2 works like a funnel.  The round trip time doesn't happen now.  That kind of eliminates the problem with the rule of six. You can have one connection per host instead of having six connections at a time to the same host. The problem is there's a new rule of six. You can only have six hosts at the same time. The browser can only still do six connections. So when you have things like this that loads, oh, let's see how many domains. So it loads like eight domains. That means one of the domains, which is the main one, is gonna hold up one of the connections plots forever. And then the others get filled up when it hits six hosts, bummer. So this one actually has a lot of block times. If you look at the individual request, you can see the headers that it has. Headers are not really that important for performance, but you can look at the timings. The way an HTTP response works is you go to your DNS, your DNS gives you the actual IP address of the resource. You connect to that. You do the TLS handshake if it's HTTPS. After the TLS handshake, you send the data and you say, hey, I want this from you. Then you wait around for a bit until the server actually prepares what you need and then you receive that data. And if you look at my HTTP response, one random one, it's actually blocked in the queue. The first block part means there's too many connections happening on the browser, so I'm being blocked. I need to wait for an available connection slot. After that, the DNS resolution is fast. The connecting bit is quite okay, but the TLS handshake is taking a lot of time. Now, the reason why the connecting and TLS setup actually take a lot of time, usually it's instant, is there's, I'm being replicated to one of the servers that are not really close to Singapore. And means going to the domain name registrant and getting all I need takes a bit of time. Sending data and receiving data is instant.  So the sending and receiving data is instant because it's so small, but I'm waiting around for the server for a good 20, 25% of the time. I'm waiting around for the server and it means the server isn't really fast. If the server was faster, I didn't have to wait around 10 milliseconds for it. Or even better, if it was static, I wouldn't have to wait at all. I'm getting an image that dynamically generated here. So if I improve all this, let me do size. So if I look at sizes, one of the, right, one of the ones that actually matters, it's one of scripts, it's 300 kilobytes. If I were to improve this, the whole load speed of the page would improve. Now this is an amazingly well-performing website and I have 1.38 megabytes of data to transfer and it finished in about a second. Facebook, for example, isn't as fast as this. So you look at the pages, like you look at the web page and the resources it loads. And that's the place where you can shave the most resources out of it, because if it loads in, so for example, there's this myth out there on the internet, that if your page loads faster than two seconds, your user is gonna think, well, it came from cash. It needs to refresh on it and it is the server again. But there's also the thing that's not the myth. If your page is slow and takes 10 seconds to load, your service has to be amazing for people to actually keep coming back to your website. And unless you're providing something that's actually indispensable, people are not gonna use it. Do I wanna know what Carousel does? Let's see what Carousel does. Cars and property fashion, home or living. It's a marketplace. Okay, okay. You came here without knowing what your host did? Okay, Chef Hans, who works for Carousel around here? Okay, right. So we looked at the network and how it loaded everything. This one was one of the very, oh, right. Looking at the network request, actually it's one of the really fast websites and it's performing well. One of the things I personally don't like about it is it loaded all the DOM content it needed from the first try and then it started loading a bunch of additional resources and it kind of doubled the load time.  Because this one kind of loaded an empty shell, brought some more things and then started going, right? So I looked at network performance and this is where you can shave literally seconds off of your website's speed, which I think compared to in the grand scheme of things is the biggest chunk of it. What happens if you have a really good performing website like this one and you've managed to shave seconds? There's two more tools I'm gonna use. One of them is performance and the other one is memory. If you go to the performance, what performance does, it does performance profiling. The way performance profiling works is, it looks at the things that are running to make your website and then it starts recording them and then once you stop recording, you've got your profile or your snapshot of the profile. It looks at things like painting, memory, DOM interactions, everything. Now, because I'm really lazy, I'm gonna do one profile and how to do a profile is I'm gonna start recording performance. I'm gonna scroll around for a bit and then I'm gonna do a hard refresh, right? And after I've done this, I'm gonna stop recording performance. If you want to do this in an actual useful way, you should record more than one snapshot because the exceptions happen on a one by one basis. The data you get is exhaustive and you never know if this was a fluke that happened now or if this is something that keeps happening because you can't enhance the performance of a website 100%. You'll always have things that are browser dependent, client dependent and all that. So you'll record, my recommendation is record at least three of those, make a baseline out of the three and work with those. Now, if you're working a distributed team, if it's more than one developer, you can actually save these, save them and then import them later. So your entire team can work on the same profile that you're working on. The problem with the profiles is even the same machine, even the same things, recording two of them has a lot of variation and you need to focus on the common bits. Now, if you look at what I did, oh yay, set timeout. Everything that happened is kind of recorded. Every event that happened is recorded. So for example, there's a set timeout that keeps running and it's gonna show up in my page. I've got a bunch of DOM events here which is basically, why do I have a message? I have a bunch of DOM events that were triggered by the set timeout. And then as soon as I started scrolling through it, I started recalculating the styles on the page and applying the changes and then it did a repaint on my page.  That's because a paint happened. I've scrolled some more, I've scrolled some more and this is what happens. Everything is color coded. So I see the DOM events and the set timeouts. Now, looking at this, there's a lot of DOM events for me just scrolling and none of them is the scroll. Most of it are messages being passed through the set timeout. I'm guessing you're doing long polling. What I would do is I'd keep the DOM events to a minimum. I tried to do set timeout. See, now I get to the scroll bit. This is user generated. This I did. The other bits, the message, that was me. That was the page. That's hogging up the memory that could be used some place else. As soon as I, let me, as soon as I do the refresh, you'll see, as soon as I do the refresh, you'll see my events start changing. I've got DOM events associated with the refresh and then I've got all these styles being applied. I have to say whoever's building this website, I've done this a few times by now. I haven't seen as many recalculating styles and the playing styles changes as you have. Congratulations.  Nope. Okay, so I'm guessing the Carousel people don't really like me. I wonder what's happening. Right. Does the Carousel WiFi see 7.9? Yes, yes, yes. They've heard me in the back. 7.6. No, but the point is Carousel has been doing very well. Everybody please applause for Carousel. Wonderful front-end team. I have to admit, I've done this at JS Hong Kong a month ago, you can see the video on YouTube. Compared to that, this website is amazing. Amazing, applause. So what you see in most websites is this little part at the end, where you keep recalculating styles, reapplying the new styles, recalculating styles, reapplying the new styles. And that takes an incredible amount of time and resources from the graphics card.  And that means the website, the load performance isn't amazing because you're doing a bunch of stuff when the user loads your page. If you did server-side rendering, you'd negate all that, you'd do all the initial work on the server, and you'd keep your client light and performant. And that means you could skip this entire bit of the client being laggy and painting and reflashing and painting and reflashing to never happening. Well, you'd run into this, which is a different thing, and you can't really deal with painting and reflashing and when you have a JavaScript website. You can avoid that entirely when it's static, when it's dynamic and things appear and disappear on the page, you can't really do that. For this, you can't really avoid it. Now, if you wanna look at other types of events, come on, oh, right, you can see the stuff in Red Hat to do with JavaScript memory management and stuff like that. For example, you can see DOM content loaded, which you can see even the line of JavaScript that made DOM content loaded trigger. One of the good things is you only see one of DOM content loaded, which is an improvement. There's websites out there which have multiple DOM content loaded, like this one. So what happens here is whenever you keep seeing the little icon in there, circling again and circling again and circling again, it means you dynamically input some HTML or JavaScript or CSS into your HTML document and the HTML document had to go through the entire document and reparse the DOM content in it and you'll see this DOM content loaded twice. Now, we'll assume you actually took care of the DOM content loaded bit and it works really well. This website, for example, has not a lot of performance problems, right? Let's see what happens when I look at specifically memory performance. So right now, I looked at network performance, it's really fast. It gets my elements on the client fast enough to run. I look at performance, performance isn't bad. JavaScript performance isn't bad. It keeps loading the stuff into the DOM which can be avoided. You can have server-side rendering so the JavaScript doesn't load out the JavaScript at runtime, which again, not bad. What happens when I look at memory? Because I've improved everything I can. I've improved speed, loading speed, I've improved running speed. What happens if I keep my website running for more than a minute, for more than a few seconds? I've got this one running in here for like a good four minutes now and if I look at the memory tab, I take a snapshot of my memory that literally goes and looks at my entire webpage and maps it to memory consumption and memory usage. It literally says, right, this little bit is taking up this much memory. Now, if you're running a good memory management on your JavaScript, that means using delete on your objects and stuff like that that you don't need, you shouldn't see the script part being so big. Well, you can avoid it. The object bit is the one that's the biggest variable. That's where your running JavaScript actually is stored. So for example, you can see you've got objects, a lot of functions, a lot of array. You're actually using call a lot, which I'm guessing it's the framework you're using and you should stop using call because that keeps memory tied in. The strings are basically everything that's not an object. You can't deal with that when you have big scripts, you have big strings. And this is the DOM. Basically, the shape of the DOM or the shape the DOM has to maintain in memory in order for it to work and interact with each other. Whenever there's an event happening, it goes to that part of the memory. The other thing is JS object group and JS shape. It's actually classified as other and that's because with the browser right now, being able to run things like WebAssembly and running C under the hood, there's a few things that permeate through JavaScript and go down to base functions of the operating system. And the other bit is JS implementation that's for example, this one's written in C that permeate through the browser. You can't do anything about that because it's the JavaScript things that you're using or the browser is using to render it. If you're using anything that's cutting edge or modern, you'll end up doing this. I see I have 36 seconds left, please. So in terms of this, you could balance out the script's bit to be a lot less and the object's bit to be a lot less. And that means every time your website is running or the more your website is running, the less memory it consumes so it doesn't lock up your entire thread. With 15 seconds left on the clock, I want to say thank you all. And I think I still have like five seconds to take a selfie if that's okay. Can I see you? Yeah. Right, questions? Thanks for doing my job for me, for like, auditing my website. This is what I actually do. My team, my team, not me. We have a team. Just now you were curious, you said that this website is good because it recalculates styles a lot. What do you mean by that? Is that a good thing, bad thing, and how do I? It doesn't recalculate styles a lot. That was what I said. It's good because it doesn't recalculate styles. I see. So you start recalculating styles and applying them when you start injecting things into your DOM that have styles attached to it. So inline styles, for example.  And a bunch of the framework you're using out there, i.e. React or whatever, when they add the inline styles, I know, I'm sorry to bash on the other speaker. But when you're, because the way the browser works is it has your document, it has your CSS, and then it starts mapping your CSS to your document. The second you introduce something new in the styles or something new in the HTML that affects styles, CSS specificity changes, and he goes, ooh, I have no idea what's happening because it can't diff stuff, so it has to recalculate everything. So whenever you introduce stuff like, right, I want a new button here on this page, or I want this property, this theme, I want to apply a new thing. For example, Mike was talking about teaming. Whenever you have a website that does teaming, it usually means it loads the default team and then it loads the second team. And when things happen. Yes, exactly, now with that, now with that. So when things like that happens, recalculating styles happens a lot, and that's bad because that's, it's not really performant, it's not really efficient, and a website can hold, you can avoid all that. I think I'm gonna stop here. This is very friendly, gentlemen. It's very friendly, super friendly. A applause, please.