s the thing. Yeah, well, we're just asking questions I think it's a negative one though for that last question. It's a negative one But that was all one point you understand. I get into a second encounter.  I don't know Is that a thing she does? I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not in any comic. I've read You just ain't reading the right comics Clearly not That's a zero. Yeah, it's a zero Oh, no, no No, you've just been zero Crimes by the three bears crime family Can we just talk for a second about how Goldilocks ended up here after breaking and entering the bear's house In the original fairy tale, they try to eat her and she runs away which makes sense But here apparently after they adopted her they all decided let's have this young woman be our crime syndicate later And what in the reverse Stockholm is going on here? Ah, yeah, what what is this observation? It's not the same storyline.  Yeah, exactly So I don't even know what the nature of this is he's framing it like it's a negative But it's just the story that they're telling Like you know that the humans in your bed are free. You can just take them home Yeah, so what what does that make this then? What what is this? Is this just nothing? I'm more inclined to a negative one because it's it's yeah He's really pushing for this to be considered as a negative when the film has an explicit reference to it I mean, I say that as if the whole every scene with this family is an explicit reference to how it's a different story Yeah, I guess I guess his doom was bringing it up So is he sinning it because he's saying that this version of Goldilocks on the three bears is not the same as He's saying it doesn't make sense that you'd have a girl walk into a three bears house and not fucking get killed But the he's not appreciating that this is not their sapient bears Wait, is that because that's not the same as him saying that it's different to the original story Is he saying that Goldilocks should have been eaten alive or can we just talk for a second about how Goldilocks ended up here after breaking and entering a bears house in the original fairy tale They try to eat her and she runs away like he's trying to say like that's the reasonable result of that story But here it's like some kind of weird Stockholm syndrome Yeah, he says which makes sense, which means that yeah, he's saying that the bears should have eaten her It's not reverse Stockholm. She That the reverse Stockholm would be she doesn't want she doesn't consider this her real family And she's trying to get a different family. So the Stockholm thing is doubly strange as a reference And to answer what random was saying, I assume He's actually like the core of the criticism here if you read it the way that he said it is the It makes more sense that they would have eaten her much like in the original story Yes, if if that's what he's saying then I think I'm on board with minus one. Yes, I'm yeah Because that's just ridiculous Yeah The reverse Stockholm is going on here. I'm supposed to be a fearless hero a legend But without lies to spare I am Nothing although you could argue that in between the previous eight lives You were simply a hero with a cheat cuts. So at least you're not a cheater anymore You It's nothing. I guess nothing. Yeah Yeah, it's nothing burger. Good thing Fringy is BRB. So he doesn't have to cry at the amount of things The sins is not commented on in these scenes. Yeah, it's kind of strange.  We skip that bit. Yeah Kind of glad because it means that he's not going to try and criticize it Yeah, like sins sins had things that he could have said because that scene is great But kind of glad that sins didn't Let's lie to Fringy when the priest say it was great And guests and did they all just walk there to this church that apparently thrives in the middle of the wilderness? Where is everyone's ride? We don't know if this is the middle of I mean It's probably just a sort of isolated church. What if everyone's ride is on the side of the building you can't see What if we did walk there? It's not that far like it's you can't pretty sure I've seen churches Not surrounded by other buildings in the middle of the desert before What if he didn't What if he's way after the celebration was canceled and he's just sitting there waiting and then he walks away, that's just What a no, this is so much. You know what maybe they did zero moving on But again, he's Couched it nice and safely in all the questions. So we're struggling to give him negative points for these very silly questions The middle of the wilderness where is everyone's ride not a big time crime syndicate love a big time crime family Isn't that right goldie referring to your employment situation and your co-workers as a family I don't care if they actually are family. That's still messed up. Don't do that I don't know man. I think there are times when that's appropriate. Especially if it's your actual family There's just people who do that. Yeah He's his commentary is you shouldn't do that. So I guess it's just zero Because it's a personal opinion that you shouldn't do that Okay See does not contain a willy-nilly silly old bear. So reference zero Did you run so far away? Did you get away sudden flock of seagulls references aside? I saw you leave and it could be best described as a slow moat. Well, he's way really far away from the building here It's maybe he ran maybe he ran Part here and also running is not literal, you know, yeah, it doesn't have to be literal speaking of autism There was no running involved. Sure human bridges hilarious, whatever But how do they work? How is the guy at the foot and even keeping his feet on the ledge? It's nothing for him to put his feet around and he's holding several hundred pounds Um, I'm this probably wouldn't work. I'm sure You know what, yeah, this isn't very you're right You know, I don't know if this passes the realistic smell test but the thing about it is If we're gonna give a point for that I feel like we should give him a lack of point for a negative point for the fact that he said like there's no running involved here It's like it could have been from there to here. So you know what I mean Yeah, like if yeah, if if there was something he was saying here that was in the same vein But correct, which is how I feel about this and he gets a plus one and surely gets a minus one for the other Oh He does seem like he wants to Hmm Either that or they both get zero Well in that case the energy is zero no matter what Yeah, I guess like yeah, I'm fine giving them both zero because yeah combine it zero it Yeah, I guess like she's holding on to something a rock or grass or I'm not even sure she would be able to do that Whatever she's holding on to you know, like this this thing is ridiculous, but it's hilarious And it's obviously symbolic of his character Guy at the foot and even keeping his feet on the ledge It's nothing for him to hook his feet around and he's holding several hundred pounds. We were doing it from below We can't see No, I never had much as a kid Just loving parents and stability in a mansion millennials Zero uh Yeah, I guess so He just knows him there's like weird political and social Jokes does me just like throwing him in every now and then, huh? Indeed which is funny sure, but also kind of steals the ability of the movie to have any I guess he hates lord of the rings. Oh my god. He is collapsing off of the negative 17 years homer right now There's a bear make porridge in the woods of varying temperatures Yeah, so he's saying This is at least a negative one I was gonna like my thoughts were like he's clearly a fan of um No, Jimny cricket so that what he's doing here He's he's probably gonna try and find a way to take a sin off because of how funny this was And it's like no he's instead gonna point out that there's no nuance to jack Horner Well, not only is there no he's he's gonna point that out He's gonna say that there's an indictment on the film is it and in its entirety because the villain of the film Has no nuance like almost ignoring all of the other antagonists in the film Can I just say? I would like to submit a negative two Under the pretense of him now also asserting children's movies don't have nuance. Yes, you're right. I agree I know that Smelled like a negative two the nose doesn't lie. Yeah, it is a spectacular error Yes, this is a big one. Yeah, I agree with that negative two. I knew I smelled what a peepo suss is This actually rises to that level because there's many dimensions wrong Well, wait, we can attribute each we can attribute each negative one to a thing So to be as hyper autistic as possible He's got it steals the ability of the movie to have any kind of nuance about its central villain There's like three things wrong that he said there. That's fair. Yeah, that's a lot of things wrong with that And then the children's movie thing I so We went from at least a negative one to it's definitely a negative two now The pondering if it's a negative seven and a peepo suss Okay, negative a negative two and a peepo suss is the worst that you can get under Yeah I'd be I'd be tempted to give it to him. This is a spectacular They like Yeah, this is and honestly This is cinemasense. He should be operating Easily over the level of being able to you know, like understand this and see it Yeah, this would be operating at a higher standard Yeah, there is a level of that right if you're a movie guy, you should not have the perspective of like, oh, well Yeah, I mean children's movies have no nuance or anything like that Um, I mean, there's even the points to which I sometimes wonder if it's like I don't even like I sometimes kind of don't like characterizing it as a children's film because I feel like it's like kind of misses the point Right, it's a it's a film that is also for children, but it's really an all-ages film. That's what a lot of these films are Yeah, unsweet tea isn't a children's beverage It's like it's the most accessible that a film can be But it's not so accessible that it precludes Adults from being part of the equation in terms of it. It's it's like a yeah, like a family Blues clues a children's show, but that would probably be something more like what you would call that Whereas of course in this case I mean as evidenced by the fact that look at how much adults have pulled from this film, you know I do believe that blues clues also steals the ability to have any kind of nuance about its central villain Which is of course So I think that we can I'm happy with the two and a peepo sauce two and a peepo sauce. Yeah, yeah do it. We got two of those in in one episode Yeah, nice Nice someone said so now this movie is for kids because of the nuance word at muller one hour ago quote This is not a kids movie. Did I say that? No, we never said it's a kids movie We don't like no what we were probably doing is saying that uh the person this probably wins Characterized characterised it as a kids movie. So we probably said well if it's a kids movie then So we were trying to operate based on it Yeah, to give you a cheat code on what we believe about kids movies versus adult movies is usually just you don't have the graphic content or But even like themes don't go too Complicated, but even then you can still have them present as long as there's something for the kids to thoroughly enjoy on the surface Or even to some level of depth Basically treat kids movies with no less respect and autistic integrity than you would an adult movie You would kids movies like it's meant for your children I would usually if ever it's a term that I use with a kids like kids movie Usually the only reason that that term exists is to describe that it is a film that is made with the understanding That a sizable portion of the people who are watching it are going to be children Compared to I guess you would describe more average film that has kind of like a broad askew of the kinds of people are going to be watching it People use it to denigrate movies by say, oh, it's really annoying.  That's what happened lull. That is cringe Yeah, I was cringe. I recommend against cringe Secondly people say like isn't he asking the question though? It's like he is asking the question and then the sin completes Like it's like am I actually going to send them for this and it's like well, yes by the ding So like this is completely he is considering this This is consistent the consistent is we treat these movies as movies in the same way that you treat any movie Yeah, that it's the same metrics for quality And then it's it's ridiculous to be like, oh it's for kids.  Maybe maybe kids movies deserve more psychoanalyzation than adult ones do I would agree with that. I mean rags pointed out, right? Like it's important because these are formative art experiences This is what you're watching, right? This is like your first exposure to film And it's a lot of the amount of people around the world who say like I control what my children see because I don't want them to be influenced by like some crazy nonsense and things So yeah, you need to make sure then, don't you? Yeah, you should you should be in control to a degree of what your Kids see and you want them to see good stuff. You want to see the stuff that's meaningful You want to give them I mean you should give them kind of high expectations and standards for media and in doing that You know, hopefully it will help their development. I don't know.  You know, all the baby formula is spoiled and there may be some people out there who are like Whatever you could destroy a digest Kids away from yeah This idea that as a child You're not gonna understand or appreciate the difference between a really great film and a really bad movie But I don't know man. That wasn't the case for me. I don't feel I feel like I definitely had favorites that have remained favorites Going into adulthood for reasons that are qualitative not just like oh, yeah, I like that one You know, I still love lion king.  I agree I think in buck fotholes, he makes a good point take care of your kids show them good shit with good lessons And oh, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's very important. Yeah, it's them from buck fotholes I I really do feel like I need to be taking advice from someone called buck fotholes You should I do too. I think I should he speaks wise ways If you see a fothole, you should just you know, just just buck it after that Dismal display. What is he at for you? Well, the score that I have for him is he is now at a negative seven Pippo sass damn. Oh, oh this is collapsing. He is not catching up like the t1000 Unfortunately, yeah, his first 20 seconds were the strongest unfortunate right now We have skipped to the end of t2 where sarah connor is blasting at him with the shotgun So we are we're getting real close to our arnie rolling Blowing him up with the grenade launcher We got real close to that I was about to say yeah John connor getting killed at the beginning of dark fate is negative two people sass Any kind of let's carry on Once about its central villain am I sending a children's movie for not having nuance? Does a bear make porridge in the woods of varying temperatures? No, just a placeholder name, you know a workshopper, okay? This is a movie where cats fight with swords bears raise a human girl And the villain has a cricket on his shoulder But perrito knowing what workshopping means is where I'm drawing the lawn Why why? That's not even unreasonable like I it like it's a joke to call Yeah, like I I get the the the template of that joke But why would you waste it on perrito knowing that word? That's a normal word. Why wouldn't he know that word? He's not perrito. There are workshops people workshop things in this universe. He you know, that's carito is bilingual Yeah, yeah That's right What a weird relatively modern slang in this universe anyway, so it's not really a contradiction I I feel like that's a negative one I I feel like the idea that that's ridiculous that he knows that word is completely unfounded and doesn't at all Feel there's nothing. Yeah Nothing would imply that he wouldn't just hadn't I mean if he said If he said like swag or something then I could maybe understand the point Oh, yeah, if he said like no cap for real for real Yeah, yeah, then absolutely. Yeah, I totally agree But it's at the end word, you know, that would be something. Oh, yeah, that would be that would Um, uh, well, he would say negro, so that's that is true. That's true, but um Honestly, that's that's an I think it's a negative one for that.  Well, she's also just distracted by having everything Kind of actually needs and wants, you know She's frustrated but Is he's saying it just as a sort of like ha ha that's that's something that's true Or is he saying it's like this is criticism of her characterization That's the cinemasons formula though. It's like, you know, it's whichever one you want it to be Depending on how much you like or dislike the film Yeah, he's highlighting it as a character inconsistency, but it makes sense for her to be behaving inconsistently And so someone's saying I think zero I think I'm at a zero. I Also, she can blame him for falling asleep on the job. I mean That was a failing on his part When he should be guarding the you know, she's asking to go to the map and he agreed. Sure Yeah, so I think she can blame him Well, we're also at the point of just a map and he fell asleep. He's wrong, but what does that mean? Because it because the nature in which he's delivered this statement Yeah I don't know. I'm kind of I think I'm at a zero on this one. This is Zero as well It's a zero because yeah, sorry go on Someone's saying in chat that it's weird that soft pause doesn't believe parito knows the word workshopping What did we all collectively misunderstand the sin? Because if so that might save him a point Maybe no because why would she even think that? We were going to fight the swords bears raise a human girl and the villain has a cricket on his shoulder But parito knowing what workshopping means is where I'm drawing the lawn. Okay. You were wrong chatter. Um, wait Hold on. What was the clip though? I see. Yeah, what did parito say? Origin the woods of varying temperatures Hold your name, you know, I'll workshop it. Okay. This is a movie where a cat's fight. No, then yeah, you're wrong Well, just to make sure they're wrong based on this set of information But if there was a moment where she says workshop, how do you like I missed it completely like maybe but uh It's not in this clip. No, I don't remember that at all because this was them talking about the uh The name team friendship and he was just like they said it sucked and he's like a workshop and that was it Yeah, that's why I wanted to double check because of the comment This just has me thinking like did I totally misread that I just want to be fair and thorough I'm the grab so if you have no one to blame but yourself little miss should have grabbed better This ridiculousness I get that wire work is a valuable part of the history of filmmaking But just because you edit out the wires digitally doesn't mean I don't know they were there It's a fun joke zero, but it's a it's a funny joke. It's just oh, yeah Yeah, I like He always rescue me when I'm kidnapped which happens a lot it happened one other time Okay I mean if it happens twice in quick succession and it's something that important Like if someone tried to murder you and they they failed and then later on that day someone else tried to murder you And you were like gosh People try to murder me a lot. You know, I'd be like, yeah, I'd see You have a hyper you know Most of me thrown into a river and would that count as being napped? I was thinking that too that might be that would be three times in your life where you've been kidnapped Which is probably over the average Yeah, so He doesn't consider that to be kidnapping though Yeah, remember that was just a fun story about his life Oh, I suppose so. Yeah, but even then being kidnapped twice in one day. Yeah I think that still counts as happening a lot. Um because a lot is relative remember Right So I would say it's okay for him to think that being kidnapped twice in one day is happening a lot Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right Hmm. So what does that mean?  You know, it's like not literally all the time But it happens Do we maybe remove the process? What are you thinking? Um, I'm gonna remove this Well, he's critical of the fact that he's saying it happens a lot when it doesn't happen A lot meaning more than two, but like rags just said I feel like if I was kidnapped twice in a row I could easily say that and then if some fucker said Twice isn't a lot. I'd be like Oh, have you say so buddy? I mean it just feels like it is a lot actually what it's kidnapping I feel like on the scale of kidnapping. Yeah is such that because Yeah, once is a lot Yeah, because it doesn't happen to the average person. It's already you're already a statistical anomaly if it happens once Now it happened twice in quick succession on the same day is like, yeah, all right something Yeah, you're just really I I don't know maybe you just got that kind of face, you know Hmm and so um, I It's rescue me when I'm kidnapped which happens a lot. It happened one other time. Oh He's not wrong like like did it happen one of the time I just think it's a zero I guess Yeah, I I'm having to give it a zero like but again, but it's there's an implication there, which is it doesn't happen a lot It's it's a very strong implication Zero argument is head canon when you speculate on why a person says a thing that's in line with their character It's not head canon to that point in a negative sense. It is just valid Why wouldn't it be otherwise you're just gonna like We have to interpret in a way that it doesn't make sense like well No, we we would always want to opt for trying to find anything that does make sense first That's just how continuity with anything This is like the problem with a really depressing world building if this was getting kidnapped twice was not a lot in this world You know, hold on people worked for ages to just try and come up with any way to make it make sense What she did with poh which couldn't There's loads of like head canon to try and explain like what if there's a mola board No, she didn't trust him Which wasn't true She doesn't like him. It's like not true. There was a mola on board and she thought he was it It's not true. You just hate women telling men what to do Which is true, but that has nothing to do with my argument. So Okay, here we go. It was funny because if there were a mola on board Which could be nailed in like one throwaway line. You probably do actually fix A lot of it in that she but then again, she liked him and there's other I'm not even gonna get into it those conversations were extensive and the the idea is just that you've Exhausted all avenues of possible explanation. Meanwhile. Why does a character say I've been kidnapped a lot after being kidnapped two times? So, I mean because that probably feels like a lot and it yes, that's quite abnormal.  I don't know how I guess This is gonna have to be the bleep. It's gonna have to get a copyright.  What's your car in woosy mood? Woos was derived from woosy which was derived as a less vulgar way of calling someone a pussy So i'm not sure that changes in the direction you think it is. I do Well, no it's going from it's cat to uh, yeah in the colloquial meaning of the word which means cal His name isn't pussy. Yeah, you can't use the degradation of evolution of words and meanings and then ignore Yeah, like all the etymology Yeah, like come on That would have made for me to have the meaning of words push refers to him being a cat not him being peace alarmist Yeah, zero Or in some way vaginal which I don't see myself Unshavin maybe So, uh, is that a zero? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a zero. I'm just I think I think so. I'm having a hard time at this point I'll be honest. Yeah. Yeah, I think we're we're at fumes level, but we're nearly there.   We've had a few things to challenge that Getting a family that's what a proper family. What are you trying to give this character nuance? Just let her be an irredeemable villain. This is a children's movie for fuck's sake Okay, so Now he's trying to Is it running the backwards of it? Oh She wasn't like one dimensional to begin with though. She was never yeah That's hilarious. It's like why are you riding her with more dimensions? Brought her less well. This is This movie to be actively worse and less interesting I'm about to say something that's going to trigger the hell out of you. I believe this is a joke and he means the opposite Oh You're right.  What are you trying to give this character nuance? Just let her be an irredeemable villain Oh Yeah, this solidifies the jack horn of stuff because he's now saying see this is how you do it. You don't do it like jack Ah, right. I see so does that mean that we need to reevaluate the nature of the wrong that we gave him for jack? No, the jack one stands. No, I think this yeah, but when he says you've made jack one dimensional Which is lame and yes, I'm asking for nuance in a children's movie Which I still find you know repulsive as a comic because it makes no sense You have nuance you do you can equally have Non-nuanced and nuanced characters in children's and there's no there's no like oh wow a nuanced character in a child's movie. Okay, but then he's now Saying see she's the counter example to jack corner. This is how you do it This is how you should do it and it's cool that it's done But he's presented in a way like oh, yes, we wouldn't want nuance Would we in our children's movie as if like that's the position that someone else might hold I see Okay, because he's apparently against having one-dimensional villains in kids movies, which I find interesting is he against one-dimensional villains You must be against him in adult movies Like I said, lord of the rings is I guess that's uh, he doesn't like that or uh, maybe This is like a double down on a bad take you already had. Well, no now i'm now i'm wondering So so the so the initial because remember I feel the nature of the people sus Which the the whole idea that he didn't like the the notion that dealing with the children's film and like nuance that that was something That wouldn't be oh, let me be very specific in what i'm criticizing with that line when he says nuanced am I criticizing it for not having nuance in a kids movie? Yes, what he's saying is You guys are probably surprised at the fact that i'm saying There should be more nuance in this character when he's in a kids movie But in reality There should be nuance in kids movies and I don't like the notion that it's not And the the problem of course is the Why would why would you ever have been in that slot anyway? There's so many kids movies that are known for nuanced characters or interesting ideas Why have you even started from the position of yeah, I want nuance in my kids movie Yeah, the implication being that they're typically isn't even though. Yes, which is You want to you want to run through the list of definitely comes in. Yeah I see well, so what's the nature of uh, so what what would this one then? So with this one as far as I can tell he is saying It's good that she's got extra dimensions But like I said, I feel like she had extra dimensions well before this moment We've we've done all the nostalgic pines plays And he's not being insightful as to what those extra dimensions are or anything about it And he's just kind of just noticing something that's pretty clear Like I said, I feel like we've had plenty of uh signposts for this before this scene anyway I mean, yeah, we have seen them in the the cabin cabin Asking if she's gonna wish for things like that I feel like it's a zero then That's a lot of people pointing out then why isn't the sin it's because his formula is bizarre Well, it's as bizarre as wins where there's like the sin counter or the win counter is more so just comment counter He could have removed a sin though But then as part of the sarcasm, I don't well So and now what you're encountering is that it just never makes any fucking sense There's nothing consistent about the system. Yeah, which hence why it's difficult for us to have a consistent system, but we're trying I see people say like you're not very consistent. It's like you're difficult. This is like the tone is constantly changing The fact that everybody here like almost interpreted this as literal But now you have to be like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait Like he's he's he's you have to consider the past comments and the The the nature of which he's delivered this and whether or not he's sending it for however many or whatever Is he so inconsistent? You're right that it's tough to I can't bring him down A well written character when they say something like this.  Well, it's just the inconsistency is baked into the formula such that he can evade any and all criticism because if he's wrong It's a joke if he's right then it's astute Observations it's a nice convenient world where he's always right which is still Less convenient than wins which is he can do no wrong because he's being positive because he's being positive Yeah, like cinema sins has to work a little bit harder Which is hilarious. They both got really big shields, but wins is one is way better than sins is one Yeah, all right, so is what's this a zero? Uh Yeah I might have given it to people sus because the fact that he apparently didn't notice that she had new ones before this scene Yeah, but that would make it negative one Well, that's true because he is on a sus So he's on a I mean that that never determines whether or not I give someone a sus No, no, I'm just pointing out that just so that we all remember. That's uh, I'd be okay with a sus I'd be okay with a sus. I am sus on this one I'm okay as well because you're you're recognizing these things way too late Yeah, yeah, which implies that you've just Suss well and judging from where we are in the movie and where we are in the timeline I think we're not getting any he is really gonna like end credits too long ding and then videos over Problem, so does he get a sus for this? Yes, I think so So a negative So what the heck is the people sus All right It's a it's a it's an advanced sus is essentially out point five. Yes. Yeah, it's a negative way of life sort of it's like It's like a yellow flag that uh, that you know Compiles If you do it again, it's advantage in dmv Exactly, I would also like to point out in chat someone has said remember when rags correctly asserted that sharks have no Bones and the chat went apeshit good times. Yes. I do remember that interesting I was already googling at that point so I didn't see what they'd said. I'm sorry rags No, it's it. No, it's okay. It's just something that I knew because I knew when you said I was like sharks I believe are special and I was like are they mammals and I was like no no I'm pretty sure they're not mammals, but that's like what would they be Well, because there's this weird classifications of some stuff whales are a mammal, right? Yeah, yeah And so that's why like Yeah, I was just like I need to check and then I was like, oh, yeah, they are the are fishies. They are cute little fish I have gills Pumpback whales are the vigilantes of the sea. They will save people from orcas and other sea life. It's pretty cool Whales are the buses of the water That's true. Yeah monster certainly is Um, all right. Let's be an irredeemable villain. This is a children's movie for sake kitty grabs the map in one hand And holds puss at sword point with the other and somehow when we see the map in her hands It's already completely scrolled up. I can't even keep my yoga mat scrolled up with both hands a leg and my chin working in unison Yeah, I do yoga You almost like ruined it with making so many jokes. I was like, yeah, that's true. You got it All right, I do feel his yoga mat pain though. I do feel his yoga mat pain though. I do feel his yoga mat pain Characters as a superhero and they just jump down about a hundred feet to solid ground one of them landed in the classic superhero landing pose That's why she's in the baker's dozen. Yeah How fair is this I can't remember like what the nature of this situation isn't full.  Decently far from the rim Yeah, that jumped pretty far as a superhero and they just jumped down Yeah, and that I mean that doesn't make any sense at all because jack literally like walked across a cliff gap With four people's worth which probably just jumped it Yeah, it's minor because it's yeah But that is yeah, that's true. That's true. I smell a comeback for the record Anybody who's listed as being like you think the movie's bad because of this.  It's her and the other two Thing yeah, it's a little bit more her plus the bears is stronger than just the bears She's got well, it's a question of leverage. We might have to enter autism again Oh Let me ask the point of the first thing that stick with that chain that should be slipping off No, it's pressed against the skull hard enough that he's got No, the stick part the sticky part on the chain Well, so is the stick going to be able to hold the weight of a bear or is it going to break? I feel like that made out of I think it should just should it not just slip off. Isn't that the main thing I I'm not talking about the chain around his head by the way chain on the stick. Yeah Yeah, I because there was an upward motion being applied and there is a downward slope to the right end of her stick That but the left part of it. You see how that would just yeah Yeah, the left part of it would come off But I think the right part of it would still be good and if it was about to slip off I think she's dexterous enough with it to where it wouldn't she'd be just readjust the angle at which he's holding it So is the stick able to bear the weight? I assume it was uses it as a weapon. So I presume it's a pretty good. I think if you went frame by frame This would look like it's absolutely nonsense the other way that it grabs the chain It is strange look how it's connected on the left for no reason. Yeah Yeah, she should have like twisted it or something, you know, yeah stuck it on and twisted it Um, so you got that bear the weird because she I could totally believe she could do that She's been shown to be extremely skilled with his sticks, but the way that they chose to do it. It just I don't want to say it's a little lazy, but I'm not good at explaining this kind of physics But to get to his point instead of just the ones we were kind of throwing on there I don't know that anything significantly changes By adding her to the to the equation in terms of overall leverage for baby Because they're both off the ground the mum and her is it part of Is it part of the magic of the wish being like this is what your wish, you know, this would be what you would have wished for or I don't know about that You know, I heard doing it with both of them. That was what they needed. That was sufficient Yeah, it's like symbolically it completely lines up logistically. It's like Maybe yeah, I feel like it should have been a reach thing I feel like it should have been about reach not about like pulling strength But it's sort of portrayed that she's the kind of the the thing that tips it to their side pretty much Because he says he says here a portrayal issue. It's not a like I think it's an issue in just how they portrayed it if anything Yeah, because you could you could try and get away with actually making it magic based as the the wall starts to release him when she gets him Or something To let us know why would he do that though? Well, why does it have any particular rules? We could argue that the the wishing star is yeah, there's there's a way you can you can Work it. Yeah, but or they could have just made it about like reach. She needs to be there so that they could physically reach Yeah, that would have been another solution But the way that it's portrayed It feels especially because there's a bit of a there is a significant pull on him And the the way they are now she is pulling him onto the mum And that's all that's happening here Like in terms of leverage enough and that yeah and that Upward lift it all that is upward is able to keep her off the ground mum of air off the ground and she big Yes, yeah, see I think there's a couple ways you can prove this doesn't make any sense Yeah, yeah, it's a poorly executed thing. I mean the concept is solid but the well thematically in terms of Thematically, it's right on point. So yeah, those are too many responses have been because magic in a film with magic There are several things that get accounted for by magic. I'm afraid that's just how that works. That's right.  Okay, it's magical thing That counts for many things it explains a hell of a lot in Star Wars now There are times where magic just can't explain the thing and I I do believe this is a moment where I don't think we have Sufficient references to say that magic is the reason this works Um and so yeah, I think you get up you get some point Grudgingly yes, because I really like this moment. I love the moment being begrudgingly I think it's a great moment. It could just use some tweak in to make it perfect Yep needs a tweak The scene doesn't need to make physical sense or doesn't make physical sense. Okay. I thought he said doesn't need to Sitting on mama's neck that movement is all traps delts and tries baby goalie locks must be ripped, bro I'm trying to look at the stick there She's jammed it into the one of his trinkets at that point. So and it's through one of the chains. Yeah, so that that works better Yeah, uh, yes, that's a lot better Well, that that's only applying for just how the the stick connects the chain Which was not the major problem. It's not even the one he is Wait, sorry, what would he just what did you just say anyway? She said Oh, that was a part of it Yeah, that movement is all traps delts and tries baby goalie locks must be ripped, bro What have you got for this one sims goalie and the bears are still there Why aren't they still trying to get the map away from puss and if you say they had to change their Well, she's the one that's motivated to get it for her wish and that this is the big moment Where she made her choice she left the wish behind for them and now as we find out as the movie goes on She's not as invested in actually getting that wish Yep That's just yeah, that's just the story at that point. So yeah, also, they're just a physical distance Yeah, when he's saying what they're getting the map, it's like, well, I'm afraid you don't understand the story, I guess I mean, I I think that's the only argument you need is that she's at this point no longer invested in completely in the wish Yeah, yeah, I think given that she destroys it. She helps them destroy it with no hesitation And so Is that a negative one? That's it. I think that's a negative. I think so Incorrect read of the characters So help me. I'll hug you but not a fun hug It will be the hug where you feel like your insides are about to pop out and rise you think I'm releasing you I will strike your nose with my forehead and you will be covered Get it and less Unless potentially what he's appealing to is that the bears may Want to have it I think Yeah, if if what you need to account for that is the one she brings them all down Yeah, they're only doing it for her. Um, yeah, they're only doing it for her. They weren't interested Maybe you're gonna argue for baby But even then maybe Well, he's also just had a near death experience Yeah, he was clearly quite worried. He was almost crying So covered in blood and regrets. What can I say?   He might just fucking, you know, he's death. So yeah Life's flashing before your eyes No Just one liar that flash started with you as a baby and then went to this last life stuff with kitty and perita That's at least two of your lives stop focusing on badass comeback lines. I just learned to tell the truth Also, that's not getting anything.  He's not getting That's ridiculous. There's no point there. That's a zero He was a baby when it flashed back Fringy He was I know he was But yeah, he ain't yet mad I feel that you've become very defensive because you feel there might actually be some validity to the point he just made Well, what do you mean the validity of the point that at the beginning That at the beginning it started with his life But then as it went on it shifted to the life that he had And that was the absolute this might be the height of nitpickery, but I think it might slip in You know what you you could do it, but I protest We all For test because this is turbo Like I just said the fact that you immediately were like no no no I just is this a case of I don't know if I have the strength to do it Yeah, because it it's sort of like it it symbolizes how you know when he was born He was alone and but then it started flashing to the other people in his life You know Oh, look, it's true because it started with him as It's the way out of this on how super literal Puss in boots is being within that moment whether or not he's talking about the life that matters to him at that moment Or he's literally so yeah It might be the case where his lives to him are continuously a life a single one and from his own perspective So The life of being provided the boots by his his mom is a part of all of his Lives like that's like the like an origin flash At the foundational memory. This is what I mean by the height of nitpicking Yeah, we would need let's see and and it's just lying Is he lying to death because that's what he's saying. All right. He's saying he's lying, but that's not the case, is it? Maybe he turns back into a baby when he dies and then he grows up immediately Shall we see what chat vote for? I you know it works chat zero or plus one. Yeah, you can do that sure If you believe that cinema sins is fair He gets a plus one if you think that it is not a fair criticism then he gets a zero I didn't make a poll. I was actually just going to eyeball it, but I should have made a poll because this one's Here I go making a poll All right, yeah bringing must be just Shaking shivering in his booties right now. No, I mean if they make that cool and that's that choice It just doesn't change anything though. It doesn't do from my perspective does it? His whole world could be destroyed and just be a moments for now The problem is that when you set it up like that, there'll be people who agree with me, but then they'll vote one anyway Maybe or maybe they'll want to meme with you and vote the other way. Who knows?  They know it works You can't say the result unless you vote, right? Oh, well, this is well, you can see the result no matter what I think, can't you? What can you well? One it's done, right? You can choose to just not go anyway, but you could also just vote and not Let's say that you did Here pauler if you vote for one, I'll vote for the other so we cancel out. Okay um That way we can see it. I mean in the scheme of you like, you know 400 500 votes. It's not gonna make a difference is it? I I'm trying to be fair here Fine, I'll go one you go zero Okay, sure Yeah, I realized that I always get to see the results anyway I guess because I'm the host of the poll, but I'm trying to figure out how I vote with it Even when I'm host, but on I don't know it's oh wow. It's now or It is narrow, but they're gonna decide it. I think we should have uh, something of a cutoff. Um, how long should we give them? Should we leave it while we should we wait until the end of the video? Maybe this will be the tiebreaker. Maybe he can squeeze a lot of points in between now and then and this could be the tiebreaker Just leave it up. Yeah, just leave it up. We'll see No Just one liar that flash started with you as a baby And then went to this last life stuff with kitty and perita That's at least two of your lives. Stop focusing on badass comeback lines. I just learned to tell the truth Also, the lesson here appears to be if you have the chance to save your life that involves no fighting Throw that possibility out the window and go ahead and have an unnecessary fight. Yeah, that sounds like a great lesson Finding this always the answer kids. Oh my god. Where was he gonna go? He can't leave.   It has to go with frequency, right? Uh Well, so so he's missed that he has to he has to face death literally he has to fight him And also he's symbolically overcoming him. Yeah by confronting overcoming his fear And instead of doing what he's done each and every time which is run which hasn't which is only delayed this fight It's not what it means Like it doesn't mean that if if you're in a position where he's he's presented this as though the film's trying to tell you That if there's a bar fight happening With like intense violence in the doors right there you could run but no you should face death. You're like, no, that's not even What's happening? This is an unnecessary fight Oh, wait a minute. No, isn't he say is he suggesting that pus could have picked up the wish and wish to have all these lives back What he's saying is why not go with the uh, the you know, well how death describes like the cow's way out sort of thing Yeah, why not? Death would just keep following him them. I believe that is the case. Yeah, because He would just cut all of those lives down himself at this point as opposed to waiting for him to waste them I don't even see why not but I don't know this is getting to a point. I was just he's taken it so literally That like pus has the chance to escape with a wish But instead he chooses to throw that away and risk his life is like that's a horrible lesson Like okay, that's not the lesson though. Is it not? That's what I mean. It it portrayed like that is a horrendous misunderstanding of the point of the film That might be mine is too That's what that's what I mean Spectacular like it's a spectacular misunderstanding of the film You've got the literal interpretation the symbolic interpretation and then you've got the fact that it's a bad lesson for kids That that's minus two and a people says no That's what I know I'm I'm close to I'm close to being so a minus. Yeah, this is so important for our protagonist This isn't just like underestimating a side character or Like maybe a secondary or tertiary theme or concept This is like This is his read his read is the lesson here appears to be if you have the Chance to save your life that involves no fighting throw that away and then have an unnecessary fight It is like you have you have missed the point to a degree that's staggering the wall of fire is clearly As he is literally surrounded by a wall of fire with death right I think they could have just made the wish make death go away. So there film's broken He could wish that there is no death anywhere I just have enough time to do that before death kills him. Well, the thing about it is Death is inviting him to use it because he believes that's who this character is Yeah, which is which ties into what death is here for if if if puss did what cinema sins wanted him to do He would be dead. He would be dead this day death would have killed him That's what would have happened. That's what I mean like I'm happy to let you guys go for a for a negative two sauce. I'm I'm actually okay with it Yeah, I think It's too important to the protagonist and the theme of his whole journey. Yeah. Yeah This is like saying why didn't Luke kill Vader?  It's like back.  You know what I mean All of the normal moviegoers understood it but the movie review guys like People aren't here for insight. They're just here for light entertainment in these videos and that sucks Like space to be able to like sort of communicate cool film concepts to normies because that's who watches this crap Uh, yeah, but again, it's just I the normie filmgoer understands the film better Like the it's not like a complicated read. It's what the film is about fundamentally in a way that's like impossible to miss I don't know like how was how was this or is is this another case?  Is this a meme? No fighting throw that possibility out the window and go ahead and have an unnecessary fight Yeah, that sounds like a great lesson fighting. There's always the answer kids. I don't think that's a meme. No I think the most you could say is he's willfully misinterpreting it to make it funny Yes, oh, but that's because of how badly he's misinterpreting it in a way that's worse If he if he deliberately misunderstands possibly the most important scene in the film because it's funny then I mean if that's not a minus two the people sus then what is Like think of the kids that watch this channel and think that this is how you criticize film And they see this and go and they think that this is the only read you should have on this because cinemas in set Yeah, it's I'm comfortable with two and people Yeah, I'm good with two and people too Especially when when he's so ambiguous and squirrely with his system. I think a lot of people might be like, yeah This is the read.  All right Figured up. I know I can never defeat you level maybe so but you would have a much better shot at defeating him If you didn't give him back his weapon every time it Oh my I can't This is this is how I sound to people who hate me Well, no wonder they're angry Wait a second wait a second This means that if we gave him a negative two People suss that means that he would actually go down by three because he already Yeah, exactly. I think it's that's one, right? That's one negative one. So is it negative? This is like at that point. Yeah, where is he now? sussed He's at negative 10 with the people suss. Oh my god. I didn't know he's collapsed He is full of lava right now. He is the t1000 in the lava. Well, though I'm back in the running because uh, if we combine the Accuracies of our total predictions that I might actually be able to make it because meme had plus two on sins. I had negative 15 I overestimated the both of them 20 let's see if we can make it that far down. Let's see. We got we got some minutes left. Yeah, take it away from it But also this works. I'm not kidding. Wolf leaves after this. Keep watching. It's f***ing unreal Oh That's a new problem. He keeps digging. That's a new problem. That's a new one. That's a new negative I agree. It is a new negative and the people suss That's one point. That's one point. That's a negative one. Yeah Yeah, stop taking this opportunity to poke death in the eyes three stooges style.  That's crazy. He seems to actually think death has like made an error Like that the writing is poor because he chose to leave He like he legit doesn't understand what the f*** happened in the scene Damn To the point where he's like annoyed at the film Yeah, you're being dead, but waiting until the most opportune time to resurrect themselves I don't know if this is opportune. I mean This is after death is gone and now everybody can focus on him. So really it's inopportune if anything Yeah, he could definitely argue that so I But this is the thing this reminds me of the gut shot to the belly in a lot of stuff It's just like it's really up to the writer how fast he's able to get out of the bag Because it's a big magical bag that seems to be like never ending. So how long does it take him to find The things he needs including the eating the stuff to you know, I mean, yeah, like it's We can't take a couple of minutes maybe or it could be five seconds I don't know that I could say reliably how long it should take. Yeah Is that was as zero then right I'd say zero on that one. Yeah zero Spongebob No, I did not need to see this again My thumb's still hurt from when you did it at the beginning of the movie You showed it this makes me want to dig up Anton Chekhov's corpse just to tell him to f*** off already Don't worry. It'll be fine. I'm sure they knew when they buried him that he'd be brought up again later What means zero Oh, I love it when the three of them look at each other and agree to tear it Is it gonna say something real stupid magical wish paper easily torn Oh, he's gonna say why did they tear it? They could have all wished for something. Yep. That's that's what I think you might say I'm confused too giant jackhorner puts still had time to make us wish I mean that's a negative one surely because he doesn't understand the motivations it could be argued as a negative I'll stick with one but the three characters. Uh, he doesn't understand why each of them would do what they did Oh my god, I've been feeling negative Oh, he's in the lava. He's there. He's screaming. What did I do to deserve this? I mean, what specifically? We're gonna dock a point for that, but you've completely misunderstood That gets us in dock. Yeah, but nothing real else No points because that's nothing. That's nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Also. We skip to here. All right Yeah, we wanted to see a tag scene with the governor character after the movie already ended perfectly It's it's not over Yeah, it's suited because he was he was something of a established thing we can use them again. We're not That's a zero. I guess. Yeah If I knew what's he gonna say about this and to see some old friends Using shrek as sequel bait when I prefer on keeping him far far away Well, if it's written as well as this film, then I'll be happy with another shrek. Yeah, man Do we need a shrek renaissance? Shrek renaissance Oh, damn. All right. Who cares what his tally is. What's what's our tally? Well, well, well, well, let me let this play a little bit. I don't know what else is here I think it's just mean My thumb, where's my thumb? Yeah, we don't know this doesn't matter. Okay.  Well, it was a 50-50 for a while and now it's kind of Let me post let me post to you. Well, wait, we're gonna I gotta end the poll Yeah, you gotta end the poll. Oh, yes, you do. That's right 51% one Oh, nice I love democracy. All right, let me uh boom boom get this all Tallyed up Let me post it here. This is the official Uh Is the official tally Wins ended up with 11 points in a peepo suss And cinemas sins final score was negative 11 And a peepo suss Can I just say how pathetic for both of them? That's that's amazing.  Yeah, it should have been like what happened with our sins Where sins absolutely demolished wins on our multiverse to where we stopped counting. Yeah So the conclusion here is that they both they both failed But the the the nature of our wins failure is more spectacular Yeah, because he had a handicap essentially with the movie it means that he came out ahead both of them did a Terrible job. It's embarrassing. Yeah, this one was crazy because I remember that the takeaway with our sins on multiverse Was that it was kind of a little surprising He kind of surprised us a little bit with like the quality of some of his analysis Some of it was just downright like oh, wow, that's really good Whereas obviously this time around the quality of the criticisms is like well, let's be real. All right, like There's not this there was very little by way of like a meaningful character or thematic criticisms It was mainly just like yeah, sure. Okay. Yeah, I guess cartoon physics. Yeah, okay Yeah and then of course wins dramatically failed in the nature of providing a comprehensive analysis And praise of this film. He failed miraculously I feel like I know less about this movie now than I did before we started Um This is what I've come up with for trying to figure out a winner for our predictions What I did was just Count the amount we were off and you can just double check the math On both and then add them together. So technically whoever's got the lowest score would win Which is me Which is your yeah, and I think I lost uh big time on this one 38 I think it's Meme Yeah, I think I got second meme was only yeah, he gets because it's obviously lowest score wins So because you're one off with the win. So you get one point and then yeah, you were Nine away with the sin. So yeah, you win with 10 points. Uh Let's check though. Let's check What are you talking about mola one? He's eight. He wins Mola. Oh, yeah, okay. Okay. I was looking at I came second Well, I did say double check the math because I may have gone the wrong. Yeah, that's why I'm going through and double checking Yeah, mola wins in the second place and then Um It's probably gonna be uh random. I think is next right I think so Yeah, I'm not really a math guy, wouldn't it? You got I can't believe I overestimated them both so much 17 is what you've got. Okay, so that'd be 23 Yeah, because so far mola is the winner with eight points. Yeah Oh, wait, hold on. Uh metal might actually wait Wait, I think metal no wait. Is metal next? Well mel's already 16 off Which is more than me with just from the winds. Oh, yeah, but yeah, sure But I think it's clear that it was you and then meme was second But metal I think because if he he was real close with sins So that's one and then you got uh 16 with uh, so that'd be 17, which is um So I think that's closer and then rags was uh 25 so that's 14 and then With a plus five for sins would be I'm just trying to do the math to my head and I'm a little bit tired That's my excuse god damn it 14 and 6 20 Well, here's this 25 though, right?  That'd be 16 and 14 Yeah, 16 and 49 Which is much worse than I thought it was but still And then of course mine is the worst obviously look at how wrong I was but you're but there's an intuition there that like is You can't fault it because obviously because obviously like winds he'll knock this one out of the park, right? This is like the perfect video for him and obviously sins is gonna Maybe try and reach too far and get things right. Yeah, but I I don't know. Yeah, I guess you were surprisingly close to sins there. So I wasn't really I was negative 20.  You know, it's not actually that That's true. Um Oh, that's true. Yeah, but it was because at the beginning sins look like you might stand a chance But then it deteriorated. Yeah, he started off strong and then the movie began I guess uh The broad takeaway, I guess from both of them is neither of them understood it Um, we dude sins. I think may have misunderstood Which means they both lose. Um, he might have because like that ending was horrendous Yeah, whereas whereas the nature of like because at the very least cinema wins Sure, his his read of death and jack was like bizarre But he understood that the point of the film is about confronting your own mortality Confronting it head on and fighting The a life that you want to preserve and protect and that that's enough and that that you know Like you got that so it's like, oh, okay Well, so whatever whatever problems whereas in this case He clearly didn't understand the point of the film and you don't understand death either. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, so it's it. Yeah, but I guess it's I guess, uh, Who do you think cared more about the film in terms of paying attention to it or appreciating it? What do you think? No Yeah, because wind seems super like Dismissive and uninterested and he still got it wrong when this should have been his wheelhouse This this is a gift to him and he squandered it Like what like like one of pusses lives he wasted and he didn't appreciate it Oh boy, it's I guess it's in terms of a comparison of How well because obviously last time sins won and the nature of his win was like, okay Yeah, all right. You know that was kind of the vibe. I think when he won whereas with this one It's like, oh geez. Wow.  I remember he He was he seemed to have a reasonable understanding of what the film was actually about I don't know if I can say the same for sins Yeah Yeah, that edge is it for me. I think These are strange times I think it's beautiful that all of us no matter what side we were quote-unquote backing all of us Completely underestimated the horse we were going for as far as our upper estimates went and that's beautiful I did when everyone else was given a taste.  I've I've underballed my winds overnight because like He's like it's so easy, especially with like the comments on just, you know, oh, there's eight glasses Or there's eight dongs or whatever and just like, yeah, that should This this should work out real well, but then he just uh most of it was nothing. He just didn't say anything or made a joke Yeah, because he clearly didn't care that much Um, which is really frustrating because it's the whole like, oh well that i'm being positive is good, right?  I think that annoys me more than if you cared, but it's negative Do we um as a as an outcome? Does anyone Because this one comes off as vapid mentioned the final score of um, the the MOM competition I know that we didn't keep counting for wasn't that that sins was like plus two something like that I pretty sure someone mentioned that I think you mentioned that someone did I think um, if I remember correctly winds was on like plus two or minus two or something sins was on I want to say plus 69 Oh No Okay, that's all that doesn't make sense.  He could just keep pointing out however nothing makes sense It's just funny though because the convert the opposite was the case here You can just point out how it's good You know, you can point out how the last wish is a great movie and he failed to do that and consistently What a mess cinema wins, but since citizen he literally could have done a joke or it's like I just Like he starts and he seems desperate and then he's just like I I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't give sins So that he's like does a thing where he turns into cinema wins, but his version of it But the problem is like I think of things, but I don't think he wants to ever deviate from his formula Yeah, I mean what's what's the whole motto like oh every movie is like no movie without sin But it's like yeah, I mean it's not without sin when you go out of your way to come up with these stupid jokes That you then constitute as a sin and then it all adds up Or if you completely don't understand the ending and then you just sin it Yep, but maybe that was the intentionally wrong criticisms, you know, maybe that's when it was intentionally But doesn't change the fact that it's wrong I think the real takeaway here is how sorry the state of I guess like mainstream Like a like casual view movie criticism is with these two channels And honestly, they're both like Tremendous losers for not being able to get this movie And it's legitimately I mean it's worrying because you would expect that they would be able to do it because they're film youtubers and this is what they do But at the same time it's also um like you have pity for them in a way That's am I jason like get it I'm adjacent to that point of please don't cover films that you don't understand at all Come on like you don't have to but they obviously did because it was a big movie I I'm I'm almost completely convinced that wins didn't even really want to talk about it But then they were like do it do it do it do it do it in this comment section. He was like, okay Okay, okay, and then uh, look at the top 20 Top 20 easter eggs and then watched the film and came to some conclusions made a script pooped it out done Yeah, it's just the nature of the story is good. Oh, all right Honestly, it's sad that like there is room for cinema sins and wins as a channel In fact, I think the perfect synthesis is to approach with their format but to apply the wins and sins Where they are earned Yeah, exactly. Very nice And to have less of a reliance on jokes is a thing to just tide you through when you don't have anything worthwhile to add But instead of having the attitude of it's got to all be positive or it's got to all be negative But at the very least it's kind of hilarious because like cinema sins will at least sometimes take sins away Whereas wins will never deduct wins. Does is he ever done that in his formula? Probably Yeah, every once in a while. Yeah, he does it every once in a while. He didn't do it. He didn't do it this time around though, did he? I don't think so He took a couple sins away No, no, no, no, no cinema wins. Does cinema wins have a take ends away? Ooh, I sins does. Yeah, but I don't know if wins has ever done it I swear I've seen him do it at least once maybe it was like thing really like I would picture it's a room or something. Oh picture. It would be something like this movie was stars Kevin Spacey, so that's that's a win off or something like that Like I could seem to do it with matter information about people involved But maybe I don't know if he would ever do it like just because a character did something he didn't like Well, I mean as you see like whenever there's a point where he has a level of criticism seeping in Who just be that's okay though Or I like it and then just you know like you did with the dream works one Like you did with the animation one that was really weird Well, you know, it's like oh, I hope we don't learn the long wrong wrong lessons from anyway, right? That's a win Yeah It's such a terrible. Well apparently um because I remember jay talking about this cinema sins's video on everything ever all at once Is a complete shift in the format Um, I stopped seeing it. I meant to watch it so I could find out what that shift in format was because I don't want to Claim anything before I see it I don't want to hear his voice right now I think I could go for a good long while enough. Yeah, I've had a good yeah this this e-fap season. I think I need a reset from it. So It's funny because next week we got a really big word as well a big log boy Uh, I won't say what it is other than it's gonna be long if it happens Some some no complaining things could get in the way. So no promises, but yeah Yo, this one nine hours. There's gonna be people right now. Like this wasn't that long as five and a half.  I was there There are things you haven't seen Literally have seen All right, then. Well, I guess it's time for us to begin wrapping up. So Thank you so much random film talk and meme repository for hanging out with us for that incredible nine-hour adventure Always a pleasure. Um, yes. Thank you for having me as long as you're both interested. We will like to Revive it. That's what I just said Yeah, good job guys.  That's really impressive No, thanks. You say I had a bottle to help me get by you know, it's really I really We really appreciate you guys sticking around for the whole nine hours here. All right, we've that's true They well don't worry, um If if you're interested, just let me know we will book you again for the next adventure into the cinema wars Which will likely be months from now because it's good to get a recharge, you know We'll figure out the next one's got to be a mid movie. It's got to be a middle of the road.  Is that me? It's basically The degree to which Sorry, I was going to say the degree to which sins one On mom would put him in the lead though, right? Or is that not how you're doing it? Uh, well, since I just even doubts the fact that what all is is a thing that none of us would even really We're thinking about but If you're playing sports, the I mean it wins a win whether you win by 50 points or one point So There are there are particular tournament rules that can change that. Um, depending on what sport and what Scenario, but it's you know percentage. Well, we have the data Sure. Yeah. Yeah, and it score will determine your ranking if you like for like you've got the same number of wins and losses Yeah, and honestly, I mean we've got the data. We've got the numbers We can workshop it. It will be a why if we choose to do anything with it We've got some time to think about it because it's not it's something we can think about And wins was sitting on a gold mine with this episode and he flubbed it And you know because again For whatever concessions we had of yes, sure you get the point This hasn't changed anything push and boots lost wishes An amazing movie and neither Have changed that If you haven't if you haven't seen this movie a part of me was really worried about there being spoilers in these videos But both of our contestants did such a shit job Going over the movie You guys really yeah, you could see this and you'll see a lot of stuff in the movie that just wasn't in these videos Yes, um And I will say without context if I'd seen this result I'd have been like wow sins must have really pulled it together because he's only got a negative 11 when it could have been like a negative 100 But would you would you go through it?  Tell everybody what you're up to where they can find you Alrighty, um, yeah, I've got a youtube channel relatively new been doing it for What like a year and a bit properly kind of since rings of power came out um I've got video series on rings of power on the and on the hobbit movies And I most recently did a video on Rebel moon, of course.  What's what's the nature of that like a breakdown? Yeah, so it's going to be the first like fully positive Video series that I've done so the format is a little bit different But in terms of like I guess the experience of watching it. It's going to be similar to the kind of stuff I've done before It's just largely positive Um, generally very focused on characters and character arcs and that kind of thing, um But I'm doing I've decided rather than do one video on each episode I'm going to do three videos total so one on each of the three Like acts from season one because they're pretty self-contained stories, but like They kind of it obviously they feed into each other and there's cliffhangers and all the rest of it And it means I can discuss for example act one like in its entirety without worrying about anything that comes next Wow sounds exciting Yeah We may we may have arcane streams coming someday that we will Grab you in for if you're interested Uh, yeah, let me know I should be able Not even just us at season two. I don't say arse season two But uh, you know, there's some videos that uh, some people want us to check out in terms of arcane being very bad actually Oh, yeah, find out why maybe I don't know if you saw our coverage of the video about barcus, but that shit was trauma I definitely did but I can't remember it. It was a little while ago Like Meme repository. What about you sir? All righty, then. Well, um, firstly, I'm right now. I'm elbow deep in Some some very in a very uh, well, hopefully what will be a very good reaction series from a little um series called efap tv, but um The the show itself is uh, yeah I'm elbow deep in the shit right now with that one because it's just it is such a bad show But uh, hope so i'm hoping to uh, the aim is to get that out within the next couple of months So look forward to that and after that We're going to be this year will be the hopefully the soft reboot of the meme repository channel in the sense that media analysis And stuff will still be there, but i'm hoping to branch out into all sorts of different topics And um, i'm going to very intentionally not tease What those projects will be only to say that they will be very different from each other because I want to get I want to experiment and do some do all kinds of stuff and just get the get my creative groove back Um with that sort of thing and uh, I read somewhere that if you announce a project Um, especially before you started apparently you get the same dopamine rush as um, yeah when when you uh Uh complete it so i'm just going to be very vague with what the plans are just so I can Keep that motivation train, but uh at the moment my workflow is like Mostly editing and then occasionally i'll jump into like obsidian and then write a bunch of notes for an idea and then Yeah, and so I'll be able to more thoroughly commit to those once I get this So I haven't even been streaming lately because I just want to get this Done out out into the world. Um for all of you people to see so uh, that that's what's going on with me at the moment gorgeous exciting Other words that are positive And lead to the sense that things are on the way because they are Links all in the description a and once again, thank you so much for being we just we appreciate it That's right everyone. Thanks for being here. It was a long one. Both are both our wonderful guests and uh, our amazing audience Rags free anything you lads would like to say Nothing that I'd like to announce publicly right now Uh, well, I guess the question baller is it what's the do you know what the have you already decided what the release plan is for the The things coming out. Yeah, so well, I was going to say that for my Side is just anything you wanted to say about anything you're up to I guess Um, I'm just working but that that would be the the thing Loki's done. So That'll be coming out. Thanks for whatever you're saying when it's coming out. So well, so we'll start with Lord of the Rings So, uh, I came up with a plan. I think I mentioned the last time I talked about a copyright nightmare of Prompting the evil bots because there's chill bots and evil bots the chill bots So what we usually put everything past and it's quite easy to deal with the chill bots, but the evil bots they come in Fucking full force when they've detected something and your video is very very long It's just something new to me. I don't I don't really understand this and so I came up with the idea of okay I'm gonna work on our echo coverage While just seeing what prompts on youtube trimming it see what prompts trimming it seem what prompts trimming it And you just keep going because they keep supplying it one by one and I'll just keep adding it And I knew that eventually would run out and in my head I was thinking it's gonna be about five to ten There's no way I missed more than five to ten And you know by the time I hit number 40 I'm like this is just Unreal and uh, I was updating rags and free as I was going along they um they hit us for um You shall not pass just that you know how long that clip is They said that was too long and that that needs to be sorted and I was I was like for real like I don't know and then um The balrog falling down the bridge breaking and it falls which again, it's like four seconds. I think that got hit I was like, um I don't know what's going on here and then there was one I don't think I showed you it fringy but rags. Do you remember me showing you one where It was clearly wrong Yeah, like amr part. Yeah. Yeah, it was uh amr shows up And then it cuts to us talking about him and in the timestamp About two of the five seconds were clearly it really is Not the film it's like I'm not saying like oh no, it was zoomed out or it was like it was us in discord You couldn't see anything else So at that point I was like, oh I think I don't know what this system is But it's broken and it won't it was just doesn't relent It would just I think it would actually tag you no matter what I would love to experiment But I don't have the time like to just keep re-uploading and re-trimming and seeing how crazy it gets But it was snip is stipping things at this point that I've never even seen before and I was like So this is just a matter of Triggering it with the chill bots activating the angry bots on something that's longer than I I want to say five hours I don't know what the cap or the activation point is There's something like that and simultaneously by the way It was only doing it for two towers clips kept hitting us for two towers clips not fellowship Not returning the king So I at least thought that we were clear on the other two and then I just had to defeat two towers, which Is an inevitability right? It's obviously an inevitability And then uh, I trimmed out it could have been the AMA one and one after it And then it came back with two hits and I was like wait, that's weird and one of them was returned to the king I was like I thought we were clean on return of the king And I and the first one of return of the king was a five second one I hit it and then another one comes back hit it another one comes back hit it another one comes But I was like so return of the king now is in the exact same place as two towers I am further back than I was when I started trying to deal with this so um I've decided that the amount of work I did to cover it with copyright is just that's that is what it is And I'll upload it as is it has not been hit by the chill bots And I hope that it never will be The the first three we did me wolf and rags Those aren't hit by I think one of them might be hit by copyright but the other two aren't and they have more than five second clips in them But again, they're only like an hour long. So I don't it's so annoying but what I want to do Is just uh upload that one probably the week after next It's it's just going to be the time because we've got something locked in place for next week now I think the week after that we won't so I'll put that out on the saturday as a big fun thing that we can all do Even though you've probably seen it Chat was implemented Copyright was applied This one might actually be able to get some level of adsense on it Which would be nice because it's been insane and absurd But by then which will be two weeks from now I will have chopped up all of it to release in smaller videos And those ones I imagine won't be hit even by the chill bots because they'll be between a half hour and 50 minutes at most And you are welcome to either watch them or not Um, hopefully they they are more consumable. They're gonna like I said be topic related So I'll get all of them done and it'll mean that the videos themselves ended up having some kind of You know benefit to those that worked on it in the form of monetization that would be nice. I'm also appreciating this meme Excellent memes With all that in mind like I said I'd been working on echo echo is almost done So that'll be out Wednesday What you're listening to right now will hopefully be out tomorrow The only thing is I have a decent amount of editing to work to do to connect them and to cover them up for copyright and then Find them together upload and release. So hopefully and obviously we're late So I should be headed to sleep soon, but I'll try to get as much done before I go to sleep Trying to push it out for Monday echo on Wednesday Next D5 episode Saturday, and then the Wednesday after that will be low key episode one and Think the way we're going to do it is low key catch up low key catch up low key catch up low key catch up Low key catch up low key catch up until we expend Both of those because we're stocking up on things, but we also don't want to spam Uh content as well because we're still recording Extra e-fap episodes to try and catch the number up a bit because we fell behind We've got to do meme faps and we've also got um I mean it is done so I could say what it is, but there's there's a special leaf that we recorded um Bringing around you know i'm talking about The thing with the it's just a little bit different. We hadn't done something like that before and uh That's mostly edited and covered for copyright. So that'll be coming out too I mean That's a lot of stuff Yeah, and by the time all of that's out. I'm sure we'll have lots more ready to go Um And it was it was fun It was fun doing this today, but I think like I said I have a bit of a break on the cinema wars thing Oh, yeah, please please. I can't yeah It gets a bit heavy Um, and yeah, uh lord the rings set me back in terms of working on mainstream stuff or main channel stuff I guess I should say and uh the that that will continue Um, but yeah, that's that's the that's information. I hate copyright You all knew this but uh never never encountered such a demon as this before To the point where I think if I had actually trimmed two towers over and over again They would just keep going. I don't think it would ever actually stop. It's uh It's like the bot was designed to simply choose The most likely to actually pass a human's eyes if they looked at it, but doesn't actually have to I don't know. Oh, I also recommend silo I watched that tv show fully with rags. Yeah, that's right We enjoyed it mucho. It's uh premise because I don't think it's bad to explain this as a hook There's a enormous silo under the ground that houses 10 000 people And they're all under the impression told definitively that outside in the world is so poisonous It could kill you in mere minute of exposure sort of thing And some other people who are living there, uh, you know, they're questioning that like, hmm, I'm not sure about that I don't know if they're, hmm, and uh Their history stretches back 140 years But no more because there was an event that scrubbed all of their history and that Part of their like bible that that was an event that took place. There's lots of very interesting shit in the in the season and uh I don't know about rags necessarily, but I thought it ended quite well Though it is dependent on how they continue it I would yeah, I mean ultimately I walked away from the show with uh, with with a recommendation in mind Yeah, definitely wanted to check out. I think And uh, I'm just trying to think of anything else. We've seen one life That was uh, a drink recommends. I saw it as a result of that very very good film everyone should go check it out Yes, I can uh, really good film another amazing Anthony Hopkins performance But no surprise there And um, yeah, I've been just on that note Probably gonna say goodbye because I'm getting closer to what it's hard hungry hungry Thank you all I will get this up as soon as possible with the edits to ensure it can be watched instead of taken down And thank you all for keeping us company and obviously your super chats shall be addressed in future We are getting them recorded. No problem But for now Good night all we have yourselves a fine evening. Good morning. See everybody


Corbin, did you know that if the entire human population stood in a line from America to Asia, most of them would drown? Because water.  I'm Rick. You can follow us on Instagram, Twitter for more juicy content.  Trying to enrage me? Mm-hmm. Is it working? Yep. Sweet. Uh, do-do-do-do-do. We got a food video. This is from the channel, say it's name for me. The channel, Khalid Al-Amari. I remember him. Yeah, he's a lot of fun. 72 hours eating the best biryani in all of India. Well, if his came out two weeks ago. I'm sure I'll be very hungry by the end of the video. I'm already hungry. You know who else are? The Hungarians. I actually think it's Council Bluffs Iowa. In my last video, I took 2,000 miles to try the best biryani in the world, only to get thousands of comments like... Wow, 1,000 more. Short, me too, but that's alright. He still does good stuff. To get thousands of comments like, nothing beats Hydrabadi Biryani. So the team and I fly directly to the source, Hyderabadi, which many say is the birthplace of Biryani. The meat. Yeah, yeah. We decided that the only way to test if Hydrabadi Biryani is the best is to only eat Hydrabadi Biryani for the entire trip. Yep, you heard that right. I'm talking about biryani for breakfast, biryani for lunch, and biryani for dinner. And in these 72 hours, I learn how to make biryani, eat biryani, and avoid some of the very risky mistakes. And at the end of this video, I meet up with one of India's national heroes to see what they have to say about Hydrabadi Biryani. So we are in Hyderabadi. I'm getting in the car. The goal is... Editing tech team is really good. So the number one biryani is where are they? Paradise. Are you sure? We have Hassanain right here. And we have Ahmed. The comments section in our last video on YouTube went super hard. Like, you guys had no mercy. So I said if you in the comments want to go hard, I can go harder. We start this Hyderabadi Biryani tour at the world's favorite biryani, Paradise. How do we know it's the world's favorite biryani? Because it says so. That's right. World's greatest coffee. Congratulations. People have either said it's either amazing or not really that good, or over-hyped. But what we're going to do is find out. Oh, Sanya Mirza. Ahmed Khan, Gandhi Zaman Khan, where's Shadow Khan? This place is full. And if it's this full and you have to wait to get the biryani, there must be something good about it. Look, I haven't even tried it yet, so I'm just saying that. And here we are. All the people watching him. This is a hype reel. World's favorite biryani, yeah? I feel like there's pressure. Here we go. That's a great biryani. No, I'm being serious. Let's give it another bite. I think I've come to the conclusion. It is a great, tasty biryani. But I think the claim is what gets them into trouble. Called biryani belly. Do I have space for another biryani? Always. Is there such a thing as too much biryani? Never. Why do people go to a wedding? Because of eating biryani. So here we are to try a wedding-style biryani at Max's Kitchen. They call it the Shadi-style biryani. What is the difference between a normal biryani and a wedding biryani? It's really flavorful. It's more intense, but not too spicy. Watch the movie, Biryani, and they'll find out. Biryani, if you're not invited to one. Then invite me to a wedding. That's Hannibal Lecter's kind of biryani, if you know what I'm saying. This is the same biryani you get. Let's check out this video. Here we go. This is the first biryani we're having that's got egg in it. The saffron infused rice. See, Chef, I'm watching the plate. All the food get finished. He hasn't been giving any. We'll order you an extra plate, bro. Shadi biryani at Max's Kitchen. In the name of God. Mirchi ka salam and the biryani as Drake says, combination. Combination. I want an extra plate for you, bro. I like this. It's really good. Biryani me ka tekya. Now we're in the original Bawarchi biryani, and they've got some secret recipe that nobody really knows what goes in there. But this is one of the best biryanis here in Hyderabad. So special that other Bawarchi's have popped up across Hyderabad. Copy them. We have no branches. Beware of fake Bawarchi. I was bitten by a regular spider. I'm Hannibal Amri. So we can go to YouTube, right? Hannibal Amri. Subscribe. Smash the notification bell. Take care. So here we have all the awards that Mr. Toto's to focus on.  Chicken. Chicken? Done. You liar! Okay, there's a lot of people watching. Breaking news in Hyderabad. So here we go. The first bite of the OG original Bawarchi biryani. Bismillah. Bismillah. It's beautiful. May Allah bless your family. I can tell why this is a secret.  It's amazing, masha'Allah. So we have just finished here that Bawarchi biryani. Next stop. Yes. Yes, sir. The biryani tour continues and this time we're going spicy. So apparently Shah Ruz was a mutton shop before. A butcher's. And then he decided to open a biryani store. Apparently it's very spicy and it's very intense. I wonder how the team feels. Exhausted he beats. How many more biryani's do you think you can take? I'm only having like a couple mouthfuls each, so I think I could eat. That's cheating. Shah Ruz biryani. How do you prepare for spice? Egg mutton biryani. Egg mutton biryani. The double masala mutton biryani from Shah Ruz. The spiciest that we've ever had on this trip. And the spiciest ever. Before we start, let's get fully prepared. Let's get a couple thumbs up. Yeah. Any intensity. Double masala mutton biryani, Shah Ruz. Let's see what you got. Bismillah. This thing is not... Bro, this is the... I'll be able to sleep tonight. I'm not going to have a heart burn. I'm going to have heart inferno. The Shah Ruz biryani has shaken things up. Because it took the spices to the next level. Is there more flavor out there that I was missing in the oven biryani? We don't know. Wait till the end for the final ranking. We have just touched down in Niagara. Not the Niagara Falls, the Niagara and Hyderabad. The OG biryani place that still makes biryani on a wood fire oven. So we're going to show you how it's originally made. Let's go. You've been making biryani for 40 years. Mashallah. What is the key to a good biryani? What he's saying is the key to a good biryani is him. Here we have the telegana putla which is the best meat, the sheep to be used in the Hyderabad biryani. And then right next to it we have the chicken. All the good meats are ready to go, ready to get cooked up. And now all of these ingredients are mixed together. If Hyderabad biryani is the best biryani in the world, then they must be onto something. Here we get the rice going into the cooker which has got salt, coriander and everything else. Careful. I'm trying to give it that earthy flavor so the fire is really this thing is just now they are layering the rice on top on top of all that curry and spices and meat and this is going to soak up all layer after layer. So once everything is mixed together it's put on the intense cooker for about 10 minutes. And you can see here the wood fire is just intensely cooking everything for a lot of heat for 10 minutes. And once the intense heating is done it is moved to a slow cook process where coal is put on top for about 15 minutes and then the dumb happens. The steaming of it. This is... Ah, this one. Alright. I don't know what I'm doing. I was like, move it! Maybe you're wondering something why did they put big weight on top of the pot and that is to hold down the top of the pot so none of the steam escapes.  So this is the biryani master doing an official check of the tenderness of the meat. He's been doing this for 40 years. He'll just look and be like, it's done. I don't need to taste it. It doesn't need to do anything. It just looks dumb. The moment all of you asked for. Bismillah. Anything that my subscribers tell me now that you said about Hyderabadi biryani wasn't true. It was more than what you said. So much flavor. Absolutely delicious. At the end of this video, we're going to go have biryani at the house of the Indian national hero. And they are Sania Mirza. Welcome. Thank you. So we have to ask you, as a star tennis player, how often did you get to eat biryani? No, I didn't get to eat it very often. Oh. Because I wasn't allowed to. Training, probably. Sneak it in every minute. We've asked every place that we've gone to, what do you believe is the key to a great biryani? Love. Yes. The magic. Looks amazing. Is this chicken? No, it's mutton. Oh, yeah. We've been having mutton the whole time we've been here. It's been amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many biryani's have you tried? I've had five in about two days. Is this mama's biryani? Is mama's recipe? Yeah. Best recipe. No, that's a great biryani. Masha'Allah. I don't think you can get a bad biryani in Hyderabadi, can you? Yeah, you can. Did you learn how to play tennis? I went to the Nick Boletaria Tennis Academy. How long? Two weeks. You can't. I'm going to ask you like seriously and I want your answer. But you can play a little bit, right? I play well. So then you can. A game? Yeah, a game I think you can play if you are that confident of how well you play. I've already won. Thank you so much and it's honor to be in your home. That was lovely. Biryani. An Indian's national hero. Sonia Mehta is a tennis champ. What an amazing surprise. Like, I didn't think I would be able to come to Hyderabad. I thought it was just going to be biryani, but to have biryani with her, sit with her for a beautiful family inspired by her journey. It's the special masala on the biryani. Now the moment of truth. Hyderabadi biryani. What was my favorite? And my favorite biryani was all of them. Bye. He's not going to get in trouble that way. You had to have a favorite. Come on. Not going to get in trouble? You should have. Yeah. Say which one you like the most. I would love to do that. Because obviously next time, hopefully soon, but we go to India. We're going to go to the southern parts of India. Hopefully, lots of the southern parts of Hyderabad, probably being one of them. Yeah. I would definitely be trying, at minimum, one Hyderabadi biryani. I would hope that would be a major fail if we did not achieve that. As long as they have a North Indian biryani in Hyderabad. Right. Because that's really what we've done. We've paced ourselves that way that if you want to learn really the best South Indian food. Do you have a Delhi biryani? Yeah. In Hyderabad? That's what I'm looking for. That's too. A Kolkata biryani. Yeah. And as you all know, the best filter coffee is in Bengal. It's in Kolkata. It's true. It's true. Oh, South Indian filtered coffee. It's quite good. I should make some of that soon. Did you hear this?  It was a big, big story. Big story. Scientists have discovered turmeric is good for digestion. Big discovery. What? Because the western. Stupid. And everybody in India is going, we've known that for a good two, three thousand years probably. It's good for digestion. Oh, wow. It really was like presented as if it was this, it's, did you know, did you know it's as good as some, some medications? That's funny.  Biryani. I know I want biryani real bad. I would like to eat anything right now. Say it. Another great video. He's, he has such a infectious personality. And his team. The, the filming and post, putting everything together, man. Good grief. 2.5 million subscribers. So I'd imagine he has a whole team. Good grief. I say good grief in that. It's incredible. I mean, it's as good as anything you're going to see anywhere being put together. I imagine he has a whole, a whole team to editors and producers and. Yeah, whoever, whoever's doing that's doing a great job. I think he lives in Dubai. Yeah, that's what I thought. I remember the last video, he ended it back home. Yeah. In Dubai. Which I would love to have a whole team. Unfortunately, the, it costs more out here. Yeah, the cost of everything comparatively. If we were living in India, I could have an entire. We could do it. Because the cost of paying people is different. And the ratio, the ratio of rupee to dollar. Exactly. 75% are in India that watch. So yeah. Do the math. Because, and also you don't get as much via revenue for Indian subscribers. This is how YouTube works. Yeah. The ad dollars just don't work. American subscribers. Correct. If we had an American subscriber, our net worth might be accurate. Yeah, that's true. That's very true. Let me tell you, our net worth is nowhere near. Nope. Not even a fraction. If you think we're doing it for the money, think again, friend. Sort of mistaken. Sort of mistaken. Anyways, great video. Let us know what other videos from him we should react to. And other food videos we can react to. And what Briani we should try. Yes. Is Hyderabad the best? Yeah. I still go for Council Bluffs.