Southern Governors declare that the Presidency can't be taunted in North in 2023, while Northern leaders for him say they will not accept second position. And the former Deputy Senate President Ike Ikarimadu proposes the involvement of the South-East lawmakers as a solution to ensure the release of the detained iPop leader, Namdi Khan. For this, it's cross-politics and IMA and the public. The issue of zoning for the 2023 Presidency is in the news again. This time, several stakeholders have made several declarations. The chairman of the Southern Governors Forum, Rotimi Akiridolu, has said that the Southern Governors would not support any political party that fielded a Northerner as a presidential candidate come 2023. In a surprising statement, the Northern Elders Forum said the North was in the process of rebuilding itself and was not prepared to play second fiddle in a nation where it clearly enjoys numerical strength. And a former presidential spokesperson, Doño Cupe, has warned the leadership of the People's Democratic Party against presenting a Northern candidate for the 2023 presidential election to avoid another major defeat. He said major politicians were defecting from the party because of the issue of a Northern presidential candidate. We're joining us to discuss this and break it down is legal practitioner Obina Chiku. Mr. Shehul Gabbam, he is National Secretary of the SDP and Opanabu Inkotare, is a political affairs analyst. Thank you very much gentlemen for joining us. Thank you. Great. I'm going to start with you, Mr. Gabbam. If you watched the video from Mr. Hakim Baba or you saw the statement, you'd obviously understand where my question is coming from because he started by saying that the North is in the process of building itself and that it wasn't prepared to play second fiddle where it enjoys numerical strength. So I'm going to start by asking what you think he meant by that because we obviously know the numerical strength of the North but the issue of playing second fiddle, what do you think he meant by that? Mr. Gabbam, can you hear me? I'm hearing you and let me thank you once again and thank the viewers as well. First, let me say this, when I appeared on the same channel before, I made it very clear that it is dangerous, the kind of language the chairman of the Southern Sabunas is using. I've said it very clearly, it's not going to all go well for anybody or any zone, you know. This was very provocative. I've listened to him very clearly where he said most, most. So this is not a language of a politician who believes in negotiation, who believes in the very viable discussion to take care of the strategic interests of all these zones. And they have not been under any cohesion or intimidation or cajol when we supported the presidency in 1999 from the Southwest and it cannot take any act of intimidation or harassment or cajoling from anybody. Unfortunately, the chairman of the Southern Governors Forum, who is an elderly person, ought to have looked at the language he's using properly in the overall interest of the country. But his language is not quite good for the country, it's not quite good for building a consensus and understanding, especially nowadays that we want to have a very cohesive united and a country that understands itself more. The timing was very bad and of course the response of Akinbaba Ahmed is quite understandable, it's quite clear because it's an attempt to intimidate a region that is known by diplomatic and its ability to swallow the bitter pill in the interest of peace and unity. So I think his understanding, his statement is quite understandable and nobody is going against it. Unless we begin to talk to ourselves. I think we have a connection issue there. But I'm going to toss it to Oppenabar. Oppenabar, let's examine what Mr. Shehugabam is saying about Akinbaba Ahmed's position. He seems to think that Akinbaba is responding to, in his words, the speech or the messaging that has been coming from the southern governors and southern people from the south. So I'm going to ask, because Akinbaba Ahmed talked about the fact that the people in the north would not succumb to threats and they were not up for the highest bidder. I would like to get your response to that. Yes, thank you very much. I am a little bit taken aback by the espousal of the last speaker because I think I had got the past wrong. First and foremost, he said that the north in 1999 was not coerced into giving the presidency to the south, that south was precisely the second passenger. There was subtle coercion, occasioned by expediency. We had a situation where the man whose university had claimed to be the winner of the election was murdered in detention, and so to assuage the feelings of the westerners. Although Basindo was brought out and given the ticket and eventually melted the president. Let us not embellish the facts and say the way they are. In fact, it was a way of assuaging, packaging a region and at the same time saving up potential prices. That is one. And number two, he said the statements of the northern elders, I can't remember the name of who made that, the person who made that statement, was in response, the southern, the south is Cognos, a claim or a session or a posthumation, whatever it is. But that in itself is absolutely wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. If Mr. A made a statement that you find offensive, I don't think it is proper for you to also make a statement that will extract the division that will extract the tenuous legacies of the encasement. No, let me finish. Let me finish. No, please. Let me just finish. Please. Because the truth about it is that, and if you also listen to the statement made by the NEF, it is incendiary because he made an emphasis on the issue of numerical strength. And we all know in this country that the issue of numerical strength is true, it is not true. Even if we take the issue of Cognos State, for example, it is not true, but they are located in some... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But when you say it's not true, you're telling me that the national population commission's figures are not true, or they're not factual. You're saying that you're implying, Mr. Poonabao, you're implying that the Northerners... The numbers that the numerical strength that the Northerners are laying claim to is false, and that means that the NPCs complicit in lying to every other Nigerian in this country. Is that what you're implying? I'm not implying, I just stated in the category care, I said I'm not a Kuwiboka, it's not the case of circumambulation, I'm not, that's what I'm saying, I know what you're talking about. I am not a Kuwiboka. It is mandatory, serious. I made a statement on Cano, before Cano was split. How many local governments? How many local governments? How many local governments? Who are you for me? The origin is still in favor of the particular section. And now you're telling me that based on the numerical strength, we have a country, this is a country that is causing into a transvestite called Nigeria, we have a country where we have a lot of injustices going on, and even like in America, you have the college system. Why do you have the college system? It will take you of other states, because if you go by numerical strength, a lot of states in America cannot produce the presidency. That is why you have the college system. Why do you have the federal character in Nigeria is to address all these issues. Now you have a president from the North that has been in office. It is an unwritten agreement, an unwritten code that, look, let us in the interest of one man in the interest of one man in the interest. Why, if it's not written, if it's not legal, if there's no document that says that this is what we must follow within the political parties across the country for power sharing. Why should anybody follow it? But just hold that thought, hold that thought.  I will come back to you. Just give me a second. I will come back to you. I promise. Is Shehul back so we can get him to respond? Mr. Gaba, are you there?  Go ahead and you've had what Mr. Tyre has said quickly. Let's take your thoughts so we can go to Parasatukul. Okay, are you hearing me? I can hear you. Okay, let me say this. I've not had what the barista have said at all because the network is very poor. But I had to be saying that there's something like subtle intimidation in 1999. I think there's a lot of ignorance of what happens and I don't think he was in the system by then. I was part of the formation of PDP from the G7 to G18, G34, when other equipment and orders were brought into balance and make a very viable political structure. Number two, I was aware of what happened that led to the zoning and also people who went against it. And I also want to say this, if you are inviting me on such program, please don't invite me and leave me with people that have no decorum. I'm here to speak with you. Mr. Dabam, apologies, you cannot demean anybody who's on this show. You can speak to them decently with respect. Do not say that they do not have decorum. I guess that that's how he sounds, but that doesn't mean that he's being disrespectful in any way. So please, let's respect each other. I need to be respected and otherwise I can't go where he was going. So let me say this. I'm not the one who generated the statistics, most informals, and the statistics are verifiable. I have been to every state in Nigeria. I have been to every state in Nigeria. I have been to majority of local government in Nigeria for campaigning. So nobody can tell me what this state is or what that state is. I have been to actually all the top politicians in Nigeria in every state or the Federation. So I'm not speaking from an empty background and I've told you from the beginning, people should not provoke the system because we don't have career politicians that are mounting positions, very sensitive positions. Majority of the governors came in by accident. They were not trying to be there to, you know, they don't understand the statistics. So I imply that... So who are the people that are... I want to take you up on something. Mr. King Baba Ahmed said something about being... Hold on, hold on, Mr. King Baba. I'm going to let you get to the point. Just hold on. We're having a conversation. Hold on. When you say that most of these governors were not trained to get to that position, they got there by accident. I want to draw your attention to something that Mr. King Baba Ahmed said about the fact that the North is able to lead or they were designed to lead. That's what his statement implied. But I'd like to quickly just go to it exactly the way he said. He implied that leadership has fallen on them somewhat and they seem to be the ones that should lead, knowing that they have more numerical strengths. So is it true that maybe the people in the North have been trained to lead from the get-go and so they have better information and knowledge as to lead this country? Is that what you're implying? Who was implying that? You said most of the governors who have come into power were not trained, they got there by accident. Is there a training school of sorts for these people to become governors? I mean politicians are there because they feel the need to run or maybe the people want them to run, whatever reasons. I mean. But when you say that they happened on those positions, can you please explain to us what you mean? That is what happened to the country and that is what I have explained. In the country that in 1999, you know, when the consensual politicians came together to fit their individual differences and form a political party, you know, that accommodated all set of opinions across the length and breadth of Nigeria, you know, it was beautifully accepted and so on and so forth. So for that reason, we have sought full of credible politicians to contest for position because the thinking of the political class then is that there's likelihood for you to have a military intervention. So they stay aside and then people who were part of the military regime and make some money within the military regime who like credibility and decency found themselves within a political party. They use the money they have and buy most of the positions and they were there. Compare to people that have been, for instance, from from your own state, there are people that are defined, that are known, there are politicians, you can talk about them. They were exchanged and then what that goes into where we are today. It has nothing to do with either regional. So it has to do with the background of an individual, somebody maybe like a lawyer. He was trying to be a lawyer. He doesn't want to. Oh, I think that we lost that connection again, Mr. Gabba. Well, let's go back. Let me go to Barca Chico now, because I think that we'll get back to you, Puna Bosa, respond to Shayhu. Barca Chico, let's let's look at those who are agitating in the country because we see all of these agitations, especially in the southeast and now the southwest. The southwest is asking for your abomination. The southeast has been agitating for so long. And then, of course, the system has thrown up these non-state actors who are right now in custody. And with this sensitivity, you know, all around the country with the tensions that we're experiencing, it's just the best time for such sensitive statements to be made. And I'm not just referring to that of the Northern Elders Forum, but of course, what the governor, the leader, the governor that leads the Southern Governors Forum, what he said. Thank you for having me. First, I will say that the statements credited to the Southern Governors Forum and that of the the one from the north or the statements that the one you mentioned. I want to say that, number one, this is not the time to make that kind of statement. We have only gone into the second year, so second year plus some fractions of a few months for a four-year term. And what do we have? Politicians, the so-called elites, congregating to determine how or who runs or who leads Nigeria in 2023. Looking at all the statements, both from the south, that of the south and that of the north, I can tell you that the statements are from the usual, the usual people, the people that have been benefiting from Nigeria since 1990 now. None of them there has ever or will come to say that he has not benefited. Who are the people suffering? The poor masses. At the end of the day, the so-called Southern Governors Forum will make their statement that of the north will make statement. At the end of the day, they will again shortchange the masses. Look at all of them. Check them from the beginning to the end. All of them have been benefiting from 1999. Some of them were commissioners in 1999. Today, they are Governors. Tomorrow, I can tell you by 2023, almost all of them will be contesting for presidency. At the end of the day, who suffers? The poor masses, they have not even I'm sorry to speak over you, Mr. Chukka. Nigeria, they are struggling to govern. Look at the level of agitation from the south-west, from the south-east, from south-south, from north-west, or from all comments of this nation. Everybody is disenchanted. People are agitating and protesting. So I ask, so that's why I want to ask this question. Is it really the thought, Mr. Chukka, can you hear me? Can you hear me? Hold on, hold on, let me ask you a question. Just hold on, if you can hear me. Hold on. Is it the force of politicians, and I'm not in any way absorbing them of anything, but is it really the force of politicians that the average Nigerian who you are saying that is disenchanted or feels disenfranchised or not carried along? Is it the force of the politicians that this is happening? Is it the politician who has said that you should not... Is it the politician who said you should not be part of partisan politics to determine what happens within the political parties before they field the candidates? Is it the politician who holds you at gunpoint to say don't join a political party or be part of partisan politics that can help you make decisions at whatever level? Is that the politician's fault? Let me tell you how this works. Let's say let's look at people's democratic party. Now they are agitating that power that they have zoned their office to a certain geopolitical zone. By that, they have somebody in mind while doing this zoning. From that zoning, they have completely shut out the other group. The same thing if you go to the all-progressive Congress. All-progressive Congress will also, because of one or few persons, zone their political or the political space or the presidency to that very geopolitical zone. By that, they would have shut out the other zones or the other people. Then again, they now force people to now say you're a loyal party man.  That's the person that we have nominated or the person that is our consensus candidates. From there, the person goes into election. Whether the vote of the people counts or the vote of the people does not count, that is immaterial. At the end of the day, a president will emerge. When that president will emerge, immediately the geopolitical zones will start preparing for the next election. Nobody sits down to say, what have you done? You promised these that and that, this political party. Come and show us your scorecard. How many of the promises that you made that you have been able to fulfill? Nothing like that. I heard from one politician from Anna Branstad the other day. He said whether the people comes out to vote or not, what he knows is that a governor will emerge from Anna Branstad. That's how the Nigerian politician thinks. At the end of the day, the masses are forced. Of course, they have shown disparage. They have sold them to the masses of this nation that the masses can no longer have nothing to do. You come out on the street to protest over bad governance. You are slaughtered. You are killed. The soldiers, the military, secret agencies are deployed. At the end of the day, who suffers, who bears the brunt, the poor masses, all the people that are shouted, that are making statements, inflaming the system here and there, telling us how the masses has the largest population, how the south is now where the presidency should be zoned to. All, I can tell you, are for personal interests. None of them can show me all the governors. Let the governors show us the poverty index in their states. Let us see whether they've been able to lift even a hundred persons from their state, but I ask my question again. How many of us, those people that you refer to as the masses, I hate that word by the way, those people who are in those states, they seem tight-lipped. They're not doing anything. What have they done to bring those governors, because we're quick to point to federal government that government has not done this. The Bahá'í administration is this and that. Yes, we understand that the Bahá'í administration has its own problems. The government that is directly affecting our lives, what have we as a people done to bring those people to accountability? Were you in Nigeria when Ensar's protests happened? Part of the demand for Ensar's protests was for good governance. What happened? Within 48 hours, those masses, the youth, were immediately removed from the streets. Good listening to them. There's a complete disconnect between the so-called politicians, the government, and the people of this nation. All that politicians care about is zoning. Like they have all come out. I can tell you henceforth they will take over the media. They will grant all kinds of interview, tell you how they possess, they wear without all the monies, the forms that they are using. Is it from their pocket? It's from our money. The money that came from a common post. That's what they are using. They have so mesmerized the poor masses, the masses of this nation, this nation, to the point that the masses are no longer interested. They can continue to govern. The masses have even handed them over to God. It's only God that will judge all of them. What they are doing to this nation, the government will come for a time of four years, no achievement. At the end of the day, look at two years into. We can still do projects for two years into. We are talking about the masses. I need to move on to say it must be them. I need to move on to Inko Taira. I need to move on to Inko Taira. I think we lost him at some point, but let me go back to Inko Taira. Mr. Taira, are you there? Can you hear me? You caught me short. Yeah, you didn't lose me. You caught me short. Apologies. Let me come back to you. There is a statement I was trying to quote to Mr. Gabbam earlier on, and I'm going to do that to you now. Mr. Akin Baba mentioned in his statement that, I quote, we inherited leadership and being honest is not being stupid, he said. And he also says that the North is ready to build its economy. Now I want to ask, there are regions in this country that feel that they have never had a shot at leadership in this country. And I'm not necessarily talking about the South, because the South has had some opportunities to run, but there are certain regions in this country that feel that they've been shortchanged. So my question is, where does this statement leave those people? Because there are so many people who have hopes for 2023. Does this mean, because again, Mr. Akin Baba has said that they will not play second fiddle, and I'm trying to understand what that means. Is it that they will not deputize? I wish I was sitting with him in the room to ask this question. But the question is, what happens to those people who've never had a shot at leadership? Does that mean that those people will not be carried along? Does that leave them out totally from the country? And does this mean that we might also be seeing agitations from those people who feel left out, aside from the guys we're already seeing agitations from? First and foremost, I am one man who believes, like I was saying before I was caught short. Even in America, you have the college system.  Because without the college system, then the minorities in America will be disadvantaged. That's why you have the college system. Now in Nigeria, we talked about the zoning. Like I said, it's an unbridled issue. When legal imperatives are antithetical to democratic ethos and legitimacy, then we must allow the democratic ethos and legitimacy to outdistance the legal imperatives. And that's actually where the issue of equity comes in. Now we talk of the situation in Nigeria. They talked of numerical strength. That's why I said it is not allowed. And that's why I made reference to 1999. Then they had the numerical strength. They claimed in 1999, yet it was given to about in the southwest, because of what happened. If you talk of justice, equity and self-will, the truth is, if you ask me, I will say, the presidency should be zoned to the southeast. Because the southeast right now feels marginalized. Some people say, let it be plans on meritocracy. Talking of meritocracy, every region, every region has qualified candidates. But we talk of even the federal character in order to ensure inclusiveness, oneness, and to make everybody believe that you're part of the system. Because if you've done a numerical strength, then that is what is leading to life, that is causing the problem we're having today. That's what I'm talking about, separate these groups. So if you ask me, I will tell you the truth about it, it should be zoned to the southeast. Southeast. Then we can now say, okay, let us talk of the best. That meritocracy takes precedence. But if right now you say no, let the best, or you plank it on numerical strength, why would bread turn to stone in my own mouth? That is what the southeast cannot relax. Because when it was a term of every other person, you talked of zoning. Now that it is my term, you are talking of no, let the best. Then they feel that they have been marginalized. And look what I said, Southeast must not be within an altruistic junction. And that is the problem in the southeast. So if you ask me genuinely, this should go to the southeast. And after all, we cannot sit back and talk of zoning. Well, before we wrap up, I just wanted to see, Mr. Gabambac, let me just quickly ask this last question. Because with the Southern Governors taking a stand, and now the, he's not here. Okay, I'm going to throw this question back to Mr. Chico. Okay, he's here. Mr. Gabamb, with the Southern Governors Forum taking a position, and with the Northern Elders Forum taking this position, where does this leave political parties? I'm asking you because you're a party man. And there's obviously the PDP who's opening, who's open to zoning. There's also the APC who has two different ways of, you know, throwing up a candidate. Half the time they have consensus candidates. But where does this leave all the political parties? Plus, a former presidential aide, Donion Coupe, has said that if the PDP does zone this to the north, they are going to lose. And let's not forget, for the past two election cycles, the PDP's ticket has been to the north continuously, and they have not been able to get that position. But does changing the zoning give them any leeway? And let's also talk about the APC, including your party, the SDP. What does the future hold in closing? Well, the situation was sorted itself by 2023. Some of these rhetorics will not be the solution to the problem. It's going to be a very practical thing. Chief Donion Coupe is my very good friend. We've been comparing notes. And I think I agree with a lot of analysis done by Dr. Obinna. You can see that he's flowing from the brain. He's just talking from the mouth without connecting with the head. Mr. Gabbam, please do not insult the sensibilities of other guests. Please make your point. Thank you very much. I will say this one last time. Please do not insult the sensibilities of other guests. Please we do not want to have a back and forth if you can quickly answer the question so we can wrap this up. Thank you. So most of what Dr. Obinna has said was right. This crisis has been generated by politicians almost 60 to 65 percent. And of course the voters take the other problem because they are the one who queued to vote for either a competent or incompetent person. Above all, at the end of the day, after all these hits, those who created the hit will sit down and dialogue it out. I know that we belong to different political parties. So the party has to zone itself. It has to decide where they was on the presidency too. It is not even the governor who belongs to different political parties that will determine where the position will be zoned to. It is the political parties that will say okay, we are either zoning or we are not zoning or we will allow the competent person to come on board and contest. So generally, I'm not worried much about the hit is going to fizzle out. One selection is the campaign issues are on. This thing will be sorted out. Politicians don't have to sort themselves at the appropriate time. All right. Well, we have to go. Thank you very much. Sheru Musa Gabbam is of the SDP. Boris Dabinachuku is a legal practitioner. And we also had Oppenabó Incultaria. He is a former governor, former aide of the governor of the river state and is also a political analyst. Thank you very much, gentlemen, for being part of the conversation. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. We'll take a short break now. And when we return, we'll discuss the solution of the former deputy Senate president, Aqueduct Model, to the detention of iPop leader Nambi Khan. We'll be back after this break.


Thinking that you're a genius, that you know about leadership, that you should continue every time when that's not really the case. Because she was the other guy too much. So she's pretty much beating you on. But you clip time for the advice. Dedicate her to somebody who can do that. Talk to her, right? Yeah. He made a really good point. You know, like, when we've been talking, we've been saying as guys, we feel like this is what the friend zone is. Nine times out of ten, who's putting who in the friend zone? Women. Women. So, speak. Wait. I'm going to make it clear. When is the friend zone? Could spend every waking moment with a girl and let somebody ask them, what are you? They'll say, that's my friend. You know what I'm saying? That's the difference between girls and guys.  But if you're not, then I'm going to say that's my friend. Like, that's the difference between guys and girls. And a lot of people don't realize that relationships are trial and error. You ain't going to get them all right. If I've got every one right and every guy I've ever talked to, I'll have a thousand boyfriends. You know what I'm saying?  But you may not get through one day. I'm not going to be bored. He can't keep my attention. You know what I'm saying? It happens that way and I hate to stay in. Maybe somebody has felt that way about me. Like it ain't going to work. She's not what I'm looking for. That's just what it is. So you just be friends after that.  And it's not going to work if you both don't like each other. So you just be friends. Free. Yeah, but you also have to give the guy, you know, you say the guy is boring. I don't know, what's the definition of boring? It wasn't necessarily boring. I think everything off of feeling. Okay, exactly. A guy can be boring, but he's boring to me. Okay, yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? So not necessarily saying he's boring. He's just not what I'm looking for. He's just not what I'm into. So basically like you and that person are not compatible. Exactly. You know, I feel like every, and then I'm that type of person. I don't take, I don't want nothing. I was created to be extraordinary.  I want to be extraordinary. I don't have time for mediocre relationships, mediocre love, mediocre conversations, mediocre, you know what I'm saying? I want everything. I need that tonight. So, you know, so I just want to, and I can't blame my, you know, I have to be happy in life. So I'm just not going to settle for anything. So I just feel like that falls into like, like people, if you see like yourself dealing with somebody for a long period of time, let that person know what you want. For the long time, relationships or situations will get jacked up because you don't tell that person from the jump. Hey, I'm not looking for a relationship. I'm just looking for somebody to chill with. Or I'm just looking for somebody, you know, I am looking for a relationship. Tell people what you expect. Like me personally, if I'm ever getting a relationship, that person needs to have God as his head. And if he don't, like, that's my, that's my cue to be like, live just be friends. Like, so it's just, you just have to put, put that stuff out there from the jump so nobody feels don't get hurt. I was going to say, all right. So in your specific, as you said, say it from the jump, but why? Why did you get mad when that guy said, what are we? I didn't get mad. It was just like, what do you mean, what are we? Like right now we're just friends. I don't, I'm not that person to say like, there's a time period on a relationship, there's a time period on like certain things, but a week, like, I'm not, I'm not going to be like, this person come up to me and be like, we can be relationship and we've been talking for two weeks, but I'm really, really feeling him or something like that. Like, I'm not going to just throw him to the bed. But it's like, certain things I feel like, it just needs to take time. If you don't, if you don't respect that, a week and you talk about, what are we? Like, at the end of the day, I didn't even know that it was just, all I know is your first name, your last name, and what you told me.  Another thing, as much as bad to rush, to try to rush into a relationship, it's also bad to wait too long.   I don't know what you're saying. I know that person. I know your friends are like, What? I've done her a good thing. I didn't want to get her. I did not know, I did not know. You seem like, if you want to get her, get her. I feel sometimes, you kind of like, once you get to a certain amount of time, I think it might be like three days, four days, you kind of know in a sense whether you're going to be put in a friend's zone, maybe a week, you kind of know whether you're going to be put in a friend's zone or whether this could actually go somewhere. And I think a lot of people are wrong because they try to go around. Like, you know you might be in a friend's zone, you're either going to tell the person how you feel and just see where it goes from there, or you don't keep putting it in your mind like, oh maybe she will, you know what I'm saying? I got that one. Just be straightforward. You know what I'm saying? There's more of a situation that occurs where then you realize, uh, Disney. You realize like, whether you're in a friend's zone or not.  It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, when I was with a little girl and she was a friend. I'm a friend of her. That sound is so rape-er-like. What's up? What up?  There you go. But she pushed me away and then I'm like, I took the wrong signage. Yo, what is the premise of the story? What is the premise of the story? What is the premise of the story? I feel like every man is putting friends on because of lack of balance. When I say lack of balance, I'm talking about a balance of aggression and a balance of patience. You gotta let that girl know what you are trying to do, bro. Now be real, y'all. Be trying to smash, bro. Let that be known. If you want to just talk to her and see how it's really going to be, let that be known, bro. Women don't forget anything. They always analyze it. You gotta show them what you want. If you want to be with her, show her that you want to be with her. You gotta have a balance, bro. That's where that friend doesn't come from. That's really too clean. I can't muscle him. She's thinking. If she see the type of boyfriend that made her, they do think about that. If she see you weak, you can't handle her, bro. Sorry, bro. You dead, bro. You don't gotta say sorry to Alan. He said nigga when we was talking about Africa. You know, you just gotta have patience with that type of stuff. Women lead a man on very easily than a man to lead on the woman. Because they know tricks and stuff around a man, and they just tip them a lot. And they do it purposely just to see where your head is at. Just to see if you can be patient with them. And that's how most men get caught on the friends on them. Actually, I constantly say that today. Do it again. Alan. Alan. Let's do it. Maybe she'll do it. Let's make an order. Let's make an order. If we raise our hands, let's have a boy response and a female response. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because she had her hand back. No, your response, we'll start it right now. We're gonna be organized. We're gonna be organized. I'm mad. The woman can respond. All right. Listening to me like this. I'm gonna say this. I feel like everybody, you know when you see a girl, you have to stop from there. Whatever you want in the future, stop from there. So, when you meet a girl, you just want to hang out. You should be able to give her signs. You like her, not as a friend or sister. I think most guys here, I would say America is a country. You guys are very individualistic. You like to take time. You want to meet a girl at your class. I can tell you how many times you go to the mall and see a girl you like and go and get her number. You want to know how from your class, from your church, from high school, or from prison. So that kind of gives you time to become friends. Becoming more than a friend. But if you meet a girl, you know, not being fast or being unique. You take your time, but you let her know. Give her the signs that you want her as something more serious. I think that's what you guys need to mess up here. Okay, but what he said, it obvious that the way a friend's on a tour, a girl on a tour guy is different. What he's talking about is towards the physical. He's not saying that he wanted to be with this girl. He's saying she rejected him physically. So, he friends on himself in a sense that he didn't want to do that. So soon, not that she didn't like you. But as a female, I may text a guy and be like, I miss you. He's like, whoa, you know, that's a little too much. We think more on the feeling side. So I may feel friends on because he doesn't miss me or because he doesn't pay public sweet. That's the way you look at it. Yeah, that makes sense.  You were expecting her to come and shoot business. How is that being friends on? Yeah. He's got a hand raised, Timony.  Yeah. Timony's so clean. We're not going to focus. It's not that important. Okay, I want some feedback from the girls. We've been talking a lot about, like, the path between being aggressive and pursuing somebody and also being patient with it. I want to know, from a girl's point of view, what's the right, I know it's not exactly time, but more like right in my interaction, in my case, there's this girl. I'm kind of talking to her right now. We've gone out on a couple of days and had a whole lot of, you know, we've done a few nice things, gone down in the movie, gotten much, hang out on a couple of different occasions.  Like, actually put a name on it and say we're dating. So I just want to know, what's a good time frame to do that? I feel like, because the rejection on all these days of hanging out, now is the time. Like, you should go out, okay? So I want to end with you. He wants to take off. Yeah, that's what our state, are we talking about, is he dating? Yeah, because I'll spend it on this money and she won't buy it. Well, go ahead. So you think about at this point where you are, like, making plans to go out and do things a couple of different times, and it keeps, it's kind of a progressive thing. The second time, they just kind of stop. You think after that is a good time to start asking these kind of questions? I feel like you're spending your time with her and you're spending your money on her. Bro, ask her.  You know what I'm saying? So ask her. You know, ask her a certain amount of time. That's you, that's your time. That's something you can't get back. I'm spending money. I don't get it. I mean, but like, now I'm not saying he just spent money on her, but most importantly time, my time is precious. I do a lot in a day. So if I take an hour to spend with you, appreciate it. And if you want to know if you've been appreciated or not, you ask her. And be like, look, what are we? What are we doing? Where are we going? Because I could be doing the same thing I'm doing with you with somebody else that feel differently. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, do it in a way where like, I feel like you're generally like, you just trying to appreciate me. Like, you're trying to, like, ball out. Okay, I don't need you to ball out. See, you're on the main stage. I'm not in the board of your company. I mean, at that point, I don't, I mean, I don't know. I'm there for you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I gotta, I gotta step up soon. Take a seat. Take a seat. By confidence, if next we can cry over something, I know. Yeah. That's cool. I'll be at the phone. The, the sub topic underneath this is, he's too nice. What, what does a woman consider too nice? What does a man consider too nice?  Like, what, what, what is being too nice? And why is that a bad thing? I think for me, for me, for a female life, if she could, that's not too nice. That's just, that's like dope, right? That's dope. If it's too nice for me, would be like, like, I want a girl to, to let me be the man out of respect. Like, and not because she's scared that I'm going to hit her. You know what I mean? Something like that. No, no, no, no, this is what I mean. This is what I mean. This is what I mean. No, look, this is what I mean. All right. I'm not going to go into your perspective about stuff and not just agree with it because I said, you know what I mean? I want it to be, I mean, if we get into an argument about something, you know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? Just tell, you know, correct me. That's funny, that's funny. You're in a good way, in a good way. Like, still respecting me as a man, but be like, you know, like. His wife was like, completely just a yes woman. Like, he had to do something. She would be like, yes, honey, yes honey. Like, they were married for like, I think 20 years and his nigga snap one day and be a yes. Yeah, like, because he was like, why don't you ever oppose what I say? Like, why don't you ever add something? She's always agreeing. She's always agreeing. Yeah, why don't you oppose me? Yeah, why don't you, why don't you oppose me? Why don't you have anything to add to what I'm saying? Why don't you have any beneficial information? Oh, he came from some other country. And I was like, they're getting themselves in the jump. Those type of things, like, they come up in the text message and stage. Like, you know that person is going to be like, oh, yeah, we can do this. Oh, yeah, and I like this too. Oh my gosh, I love that too. I don't have no problem with us having similarities, but it's the difference between I say something and you're like, oh my gosh, I love that too.   I need you to give me some details so I can believe you. Because the people would be like, let me go Google this right away. You said what? I said just to give brownie points. I can't say brownie points? You know what brownie points are. We're going to talk about that. You know what brownie points are? No. Bro, we all don't want to talk about brownie points. We didn't talk about snacks. We talk about whatever we talk about. We're not talking about snacks. I'm sorry. I was figuring out brownie points. That's cool. To me, too nice is basically, you trying to be my mother. Because a lot of females on campus, they try to be independent or whatever and they misconstrue that would be someone's mother.  Let me do what I have to do. Let me do what you want to do, but let me be a man. And I'm going to pursue you. You're not going to be opposite. I'm going to pursue the female, not the female pursuing me. What? A brownie point. I would love for them to take care of me. This is coming from me. Like, I can clean. I can do all that.  What? A little kid. A little kid. A little kid. If we're not dating. Like if we're not dating, I would need you to talk. But, you know, but this is the only cover from me. But I thought, I don't think something nice is important. If something nice is important, you want it more.  So, I feel like when you miss someone, you don't, you know, they're nice to you and girls, they're the girls. Don't tell them you're too nice, you want me so much. Tell them, cause you're not being yourself. Someone wants you. I might not want you now, but someone wants you. Well, I just wanted to add to that, but like me, like, I mean, cause there was this girl that I liked in high school. We wanted to get together outside of the car, you know, and my friend, my freshman year in college, right? And I liked her, but she was too nice. Like, she didn't ever, when we were arguing with stuff, she didn't ever, she was just always, you're right, you know? And I liked her though, but I couldn't deal with that.  But I liked her. I mean, I feel like everything is, as far as being too nice, you're not getting anything from that person. Like everybody, nobody just wants somebody from being in bed. They want somebody who's challenging my feet or soul. You know what I'm saying? Stuff like that. And you're not getting anything if you just being free with me. I can't help but be myself. Like, you got the same thoughts as me, so. Okay, I feel like I do, it's too nice. Like I was in a relationship before where I did everything I said. And I'm going to show that like, why I be like, I'm hungry, it's kind of like like he did everything I asked. I mean, I loved it at first. I was spoiled, you know, I didn't know I was spoiled. But I feel like, I like, like she said, she likes to be a challenge for her. Like, I don't want you to be jumping, say jump, when I say jump, like, say no sometimes. I mean, stand up if you don't like to run over me. And like, I'm in a relationship with you, so I feel like if I run over you, I'm not going to run over you. But that's too nice when you don't have a bedroom. You can't stand up for yourself. You don't tell me, you know, you don't like, just do something. I could shut up and beg to like put me in my place. But that's bad actually. That's how people need to have blessings, right? I'm serious, yeah. It's how you miss your blessings. I mean, if it matters, do that for you. You have to appreciate God. I don't think I can do that actually, you know. If you find someone who does that for you, you have to go and thank God and pray everything. I want to know, thank you. I want Xen to change himself. He's a nice person, okay. But you know what, you don't like him. That's it. You don't have any connection with him. Not him being nice. What is the line between being too nice and showing somebody you care or you love them? I don't think there's such thing as too nice. As long as there's reciprocation. If you're doing something for somebody, and y'all are together, y'all are talking, and they do it in return, I don't think that's too nice. I don't think there's a definition of too nice either. But if only one person is given, if only one person is given, then that's too nice, and then that person in return is taking advantage of that person. But if y'all are mutually reciprocating the nicest, there's no such thing as being too nice.  Okay, like being too nice, I don't really agree with what you said about being too nice, but that's what we were put on. What is the earth to do is to be nice and do good things. So why are women and y'all like increasingly nice? What's that? What's that? Everything is in black and white. You don't live on that earth where everything is supposed to be as cool. Like I have my own attitude some days, you know what I'm saying? It's just like I just don't want you in my face.  Love requires attention. I'm gonna need you to know when I feel like, you know what I'm saying? You should do things and you should. You know what I'm saying? When I need my space. Yeah, but we don't know who you're feeling. No, but it can't be, you know what I'm saying? My mother and your marriage to my dad for over 18 years, she knows what that man is mad. She knows it's something not right. You know what I'm saying? Even me, I've dated guys that I've loved or whatever, and you know what I'm saying? You can send a text message and I know something isn't right. It requires attention. You're obviously not paying attention. You like me. You're infatuated with me, but you don't love me because you're not paying attention to what I'm doing. You're just doing this relationship for it.  What was the question that you said in the line between? Yeah, I said, what's the line between too nice and showing somebody you care and you love them? I'll play the line between two if it's a one-way street or if it's a two-way street. Because if that person cares about you too, then they don't see it as you being too nice. They see it as you caring about them.  So I've always been a type of person. I've always seen it as it being a two-way street because I've had guys do things for me that other guys have done for other females and they'll take it as, they ain't too nice. They ain't, he always doing this, but I take it as he just care about me because I care about him. So, that's a really good point. That's a really good point. Another question I have is like, we've all seen situations like this. Whether we've been involved in these situations or not, like, okay, you might be talking to a girl, or a girl, look at me like this. A girl might be talking to two guys, okay? One guy buys her a teddy bear for going for it. The other guy buys her a diamond ring. But the teddy bear guy gets her in the end. Why is that? Who a girl's going to be taking care of? Why is that? Is he gonna buy it? Is he gonna buy it? Is he gonna buy it? Is he gonna buy it? Is he gonna buy it? Is he gonna buy it? Is he gonna buy it? What's the pen? If the teddy... Like, he bought me a ring, I'm not being on duty or what everybody's bought me a ring or whatever. And I liked it, that's okay, cool. But the teddy bear might have had something special. Like, he might have had a Lebron James shirt and be on it, huh? And I love it. So, it's the small things that go into it. That might have been engraving on that ring. It might talk when you press his hand. Okay. Say what? It might talk when you press his hand. I know, right? It's a little bad. It might sing. Rings don't sing. Oh, don't mind me. Okay, buy me a ring.  You get it in grade with like, our favorite song or something like that. That's gonna make me like, I'm gonna be like, oh, it didn't even got to be able to read it. You're like, hey, you're not bad. But if you just buy me a ring just because you saw it in the store, you can't have that without me. You're lucky that you got the love. Okay. It's giving him his ring. A ring is a symbol of marriage and love and whatever, whatever. But it's like, if you get your teddy bear, you obviously don't feel that type of way towards might have given you a ring. If he given you a ring, it's like, he wants to wipe you. If he's giving you a teddy bear, he wants to thank you and maybe wipe you one day, but not right now. So obviously Yeah, I love you. I love you. I love you. I buy a ring. We stay together. And would you consider that unattractive or like, somebody trying to buy your affection, I guess, I could get my own. So my my stuff is actually negative.  And that's your only way of trying to get my attention. Yeah, the gift is not meaningful. Yeah. Then don't buy it. If I don't like diamond rings, why would you buy me a diamond ring? Because you think you'll make me happy? No. So it's about Yeah, like you say, it's a little thing. I've been in a relationship where like, this person used to buy me a lot of stuff. Just a lot of stuff. We're not together. Like, that's the work for the time being. But if you don't have nothing to back that up, that buy stuff works. It used to work for me when I was younger. I feel like because I was like 18 years old, and I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm just gonna You know about this. I mean, I'm 21 now. So it's like, you buy me stuff. I can go buy, like I said, I can buy my own stuff. Like I'm not saying I don't want nobody to buy me this. And I'm not saying like I'm mis-independent or something like that. But but I'm saying like buy me stuff. I can't be bought. So like the only person who is paying the ultimate price for me is Jesus. That's it. Like you can't, you can't buy me. Just thought that that count bridge. What? Is it that account? Yeah. So everybody here has seen buying videos. We all see vines. And if you watch vine video, do it for vines. I'm gonna do it. But when you watch vine videos, vines videos are, we all know they're meant to be funny, but they're often exaggerations of the truth. Can we agree on that? No, they're exaggerations on the truth. Except for that. Okay. That being said, I saw this vine the other day. Where this dude, he was coming out the store. From the, are you, are you showing me? Are you showing me? Right. Look, the dude is coming out the restaurant and he opened the door for his girl. And he was like, he was like, here you go, babe. Or whatever. And she just walked past me, you know, right? And then all of a sudden, you know how they quickly changed things and he's outfit changed.   And she jumps all over him. So And no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's something I don't know. I don't want to judge everybody here, but I'm from Nigeria and I'm new, you know, kind of new here. And I would say the one American girls are like that. But some girls are used to some silent things. I know when I first came here, I think it was the world go to the club.   And I went to the club and I said, excuse me, dance. And the girl looked at me like I'm a piece of trash, you know. She looked at me like, what? She probably liked it because she didn't know what she was saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, she, she, she heard it. She heard it. No, someone said I can't dance. That's how you know they heard it. And they heard it. I said, excuse me, dance, you say what?  Just grab this girl closer. Like the club in my hand, you know how you go to the store, you pick up the clothes. They'll keep dancing and keep dancing. I had to do that for three months. Excuse me, excuse me, dance, no, no. That's the time I went to the club. I went there and grabbed the girl. I said, come here. I grabbed the girl again. And every time I do that, it works for me. So why would I say excuse me, dance, you say, girl. Why if I grab, I should come and dance with you? The environment. They probably do it. They probably do it. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.  That might be nice to you, but it might not be done for us. That's our culture.   They just be wrong. What's wrong? What's wrong, right? Two girls and one girl who just had old heels for him. She wanted to be with him forever. And this one little side ratchet something and we got them and just used it like this. She may be the one he wanted to do with her. It's the thing that you have forever. You got this girl that's probably white, but that's not what she want right now. It's happened that girl that said that guy was like, dang, he's a good guy. It's because we're 21, we think I can do that later. I'm going to get it. I can get it. Same with God. She's going to be there. We're going to holler at this girl over here. And we just obviously, you know, just don't ask your mother what you're self worth. If you don't know you work more than the side piece or the girl that's just going to be there at the end of the day because you don't keep it. If you don't know you're worth at the end of the day, you've got to understand for it. That was towards the last, I mean nice guy to finish your last or the girl, it's not that it's not recognized. It's just not what you're ready for. It's one thing to say, oh, that she would be there.  Oh, yeah. That's what you're convenient. You are convenient. And if you see it that way, change your mind because it's like if you see how the situation always is like, okay, he'll be with this girl and he'll always come back to me because you're convenient. You'd be like, no, because he loves me, no, because you're convenient. Because he knows that you're not going to do it. How much time do you have? 34 minutes, guys. I'm not your convenient, but you're working out. You're working out. You're not going to do it because you feel like you don't want it No, I'm just saying that about saying, you want to keep on playing you were with me, but you leave this for today and be comparing this, not that Well, we've actually actually went out of this topic, but we have to come up with something, you know, we have different views if you mess up But we have to learn. We have to learn. When I had to just talk about our feelings, we want to learn something great, right, probably. But we're not even right now. At the end of the day, we should always think about the future when you want to be taken care of or a guy that doesn't pass the present condition. If he's a nice person, try to feel that way yourself and that person in the future. And what you want, what do you actually want? Because most people don't know what they want. We can say, I want this. I want that. But the flesh sometimes don't really go with that. So if you see a nice guy, no matter how body looks, look past his skin color, look past his muscles, because the greatest things can be felt. Look into your heart. Give them time. You might, I mean, I have some other guys that I love in my life that are very, very, very much in love with you. It's a nice deal with you. I love you. Y'all going to be here? Oh, sure. Right now, man, I'm about to go hit you. This is a good idea. You're special with life. Yeah. I'm just going to hide you. I just say my things. I just say my things. I wouldn't wait for three minutes. You've got to make sure your self is right. Bye bye, motherfuckers. Because your self is right. When you get out of a relationship, you're going to feel like. So that's why you've got to make sure that you, spiritually, incline within yourself before you even get into a relationship, because if you're not there emotionally for yourself, then when you lose that person, you can't feel it for yourself. Even going into depression and all of this, whatever. Exactly, but that's what a lot of people feel that because they don't know how to find themselves. But they find themselves in somebody else. He's not the guys that you're looking for, so. I mean, who said that? Who's like, relationship or trial and error?  I know people who be like, oh my God, this is the one. You don't know. If you do say that, you're just the one. You've got to believe that relationships are, all you can do is give what you got. That's all you can do. So if it failed, I've always been detainee of every last one of my relationships because I gave what I could at that time being. I'm pretty sure if I can go back in time, I'll probably handle situations differently, but I gave what I could at that time. I'm a lot more mature now, so I can handle situations a lot better. But it's just trial and error. It is what it is. Luckily, I ain't married now, so. That's interesting. So to sum everything up, I want one guy and one woman. You selfish, man. Talk, man, bro. You got to be a good host. To give me their definition of what the friend zone is and what it means to be too nice.  Just to sum everything up. Yeah. So who would like to go first? Sum everything up. What is the friend zone? What have we learned today? But what was the point of this? OK, like, the friend zone is basically like the video where somebody throws you down in this pit. No, no, no. Like, I think the friend zone is needed, though, actually, because once you reach that level of being in the friend zone, I think it's a good point to say, well, either the man can step up or the woman can step up if they want to take it further. So I mean, like, the friend zone is basically, if y'all can be considered as friends, that's a good thing. Because I mean, if two people are really cool with each other and they just kick back and chill every now and then, I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. Some people take advantage of just doing that. Some people want to take it further. They don't really appreciate what the time it is when they get it and stuff like that. You just reminded me of a good point. Me, for example, if I'm going to date a girl, if I'm going to talk to a girl, I want to actually be able to be her friend. Like, if we can't actually be friends outside romance, like, there's no point. In my opinion, a lot of people are different. Like, a lot of people, like, if we weren't dating, we wouldn't be friends. Those relationships usually don't work. But what if somebody goes in with those intentions and gets, I guess, categorized in the friend zone, just because I was trying to get to know you as a friend first, before I got to know you as a potential, you know? That's where it's like, the other person. If you ask somebody, like, if you want to take that next step, and somebody's like, no, then they cut them off completely, then that's not right. But if y'all are friends, then you should be able to understand if you did turn them down or something, they should be like, oh, OK, we'll still be cool, whatever, whatever. And then y'all sit on good terms. So, I mean, that's what it is. Does anybody disagree with that? Does anybody have anything to add? Jeremy, want to say something? Yeah. I saw his mouth, he's like, you can talk about this all night. Does anybody have a solution? That's what I'm saying. I'm ready to do this. My boy taking notes. He's about to be upset. I want a clear cut. I'm trying to take a process. Ooh. I don't know. You should have came here for that. Only solution. The only solution. The only solution. One good solution is to like, the only solution is, don't waste your time, delay is dangerous. Don't waste your time, then fantasizing being with you.  If in the future we connect, that would be good. But right now, let's be friends. So they can make an adjustment if you don't want to go to another girl, then waste time fantasizing being with you. See, that's why it's called friends zone. Because later on, there's no chance that you guys are being in a relationship. That's why I want to be your friend. You know what I'm saying? Most of the one time, you know, to let it blend, you know. I mean, sometimes you've got to realize that person just ain't for you, but there's no, you can't make friends. That's what people go wrong. And y'all waste time trying to build somebody into somebody that you want.  Leave them alone. You can't, you can't, like, mold somebody into like, people don't just want to be with you. Sing a bridge. In conclusion, in conclusion, it takes the friends all sometimes to realize that they're one damn person, OK? That happens, man. So we won't let it know what we want. OK, I accept it. Hey. I was trying to say, before y'all leave, before y'all leave, just one more thing. After every meeting, I like, you know, everybody's opinion on what next week's meeting, what next week's discussion topic is. Doin' it for the vine. That's not fair. Tavion is outnumbered. You don't have to do it. You don't have to. They can't make you do anything you don't want to. It's so brownie poins. I don't know how to do that. Start around. Hey, y'all, what's up? There you go. Show your friends, show your kids. There you go. Do your brownie point dance.  You don't know what brownie points. Where did that come from? Been around for years. If you've never heard that. It's like cool points. Brownie points. Yeah, but what's the significance of the brownie part? It's not. Everybody likes brownies. That's the significance. No, I'm not. Oh, you just want cool points. I understand that though. Because everybody wants to be cool. That's more logical though. Yeah, but brownie points. That must have been an error when everybody was in America. That had to be an error, bro. I know. No, I'm not. Y'all just don't like to think.


Attention Harvey Park residents. This is a community notification of a new sexually violent predator in your area. Please stay tuned to the following short program for more information. Hi I'm technician Ron Hackett with the Denver Police Department. The sex offender registration and compliance unit at DPD is responsible for the registration monitoring and tracking of all registered sex offenders and sexually violent predators who live in the city and county of Denver. Here's a brief history of sex offender legislation in Colorado. Our state laws trickle down from federal government mandates. In 1994 we had the Jacob Wetterling Act which mandated that states would establish a sex offender list. Megan's law of 1996 said that the public would have access to those sex offender registration lists. The Pam Litchner Act of 1996 stated that some offenders might have to have lifetime registrations and the Adam Walsh Act of 2006 unified sex offender laws across the country. In Colorado the legislature has determined that sexually violent predators by definition pose a higher risk to the community at large and therefore mandated that upon their release from the Department of Corrections the community must be notified. Sex offender notification in Colorado happens in two ways. The first is passive and ongoing through the sex offender registration process which is a list maintained by local police departments. The second way is active via community notification for those offenders determined to be sexually violent predators by the courts or by the parole board. Most sex offenders in Colorado are supervised by the criminal justice system in our communities. Most sex offenders engage in crossover behavior which means they may have been arrested for one type of crime but be apt to commit another.  There is no typical sex offender but all tend to be deceptive, manipulative and secretive. 80 to 93 percent of sex offenses are committed by someone known to the victim. Sexual deviancy begins in mid to late adolescence. Sex offenses are not impulsive.  The community has a vested interest in helping offenders to be successfully managed in the community. Sex offenders have the same need for housing and employment as any other citizen.  There are approximately 16,500 registered sex offenders in the state of Colorado. About 65 percent of convicted sex offenders are placed in the community on probation. The remainder are in the Department of Corrections or Community Corrections. Offenders may be caught for one type of offense but be at a high risk to commit another type. Crime of conviction is only one indicator of risk.  The offender's residents must be verified quarterly by the Denver Police Department. The full sex offender registration list is available by calling the Denver Police Department Identification Bureau at<PHONE_NUMBER>. Convicted felons and those with multiple convictions are posted online at denvergov.org slash police.   Now, here's a look at the newest sexually violent predator living in Denver. Here's an overview of the registered sex offenders currently living in Denver. There are 2,511 total living within city limits. In Denver Police District 4, there are 510. Precinct 423 has 125 registered sex offenders. Of those, 96 have felony convictions and 29 have misdemeanor convictions. Freddy Ramirez is a sexually violent predator currently living in Denver. He's 39 years old and was born on June 16, 1983.  He's currently living at 2030 South Irving Street in the Harvey Park neighborhood of Denver. Schools located within one mile of this offender include Shant Community School at 1300 South Low Boulevard, Schmidt Elementary at 1820 South Falejo Street, Excel Academy at 1825 South Federal Boulevard, Johnson Elementary at 1850 South Irving Street, Coons Miller Creative Arts Academy at 2250 South Whitman Way, Lincoln High School, Respect Academy and Compass Academy all at 2285 South Federal Boulevard, Dual Elementary at 2520 South Utica Street, Stripe Prep Federal and Stripe Prep Ruby Hill both at 2626 West Evans Avenue, College View Elementary at 2675 South Decatur Street, Gust Elementary at 3440 West Yale Avenue. Parks located within one mile of this offender include Sanderson Gulch, Florida and Raritan, Garfield Lake Park, Harvard Gulch West, Athmar Park, Sanderson Gulch, Harvey Park, LaLomita Park, Sanderson Gulch Irving and Java. Recreation centers located within one mile of this offender include Athmar Rec Center at 2680 West Mexico Avenue, Harvey Park Rec Center at 2120 South Tennyson Way, College View Rec Center at 2525 South Decatur Street. Bus routes located within one mile of this offender include Route 14 West Mississippi Avenue and South Raritan Street, Route 21 West Evans Avenue and South Peco Street. A brief history of charges against this offender. Sexual assault on a child. He's not currently on parole and registered with the Denver Police Department on July 6, 2022 to 2030 South Irving Street and the Harvey Park neighborhood of Denver. Pass charges against this offender include sexual assault, domestic violence, kidnapping, assault, menacing, trespassing, burglary, disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, harassment, solicitation of prostitution, fraud, criminal mischief, parole violation. Freddie Ramirez has been determined as sexually violent predator after meeting the following criteria. Criteria one, age 18 or older on the date of the offense or under 18 and tried as an adult. The offender was age 20 at the time of both offenses. Criteria two, the crime must have been committed honor after July 1, 1997 and convicted honor after July 1, 1999.  The offender was convicted on April 13, 2004 for sexual assault on a child. Criteria three, the relationship to the victim was one of the following. Victim was a stranger to the offender or the offender established or promoted a relationship with the victim primarily for the purpose of sexual victimization. The victims were a 7 and a 14 year old male. The offender was known to both victims. Criteria four, positive results or the passing of a risk assessment instrument administered by probation parole staff and a qualified treatment evaluator. Positive results include an assessment for the presence of a mental abnormality, a level of denial regarding the offense, treatment appropriateness and motivation, presence of sexual deviant interests. The offender was evaluated by the Denver district courts with positive results, determining him to be a sexually violent predator.


Going on everyone Sam here with late sports cards rip in at 22 top Star Wars master or a copy eight box case number four random mini-box style So I'm gonna open the case first again. They're gonna be stacked one through four and five through eight One through four and five through eight Again, I will make sure the boxes are the boxes have to be facing us Which they are very nice. So again, you can see on the overhead In front here is one through four through four and five three eight There you go. Sab is here. Yes. Oh, thank God. Yes. Thank God Sab is here All right, I'm gonna do the random now everyone. We've got 32 participants 32 numbers one through 32 representing your Mini box four times one two three and four Dallas P down to Daniel F four times on your mini boxes one Two three and four twenty five down to 24. All right Dallas P 25 Michael C with four Shane W 23 Alvin S 11 Shipe with one Michael C at 20 Michael G 5 Shane W 8 went Matthew J with 32 Francis D 2 and 18 Dallas B 9 and 26 Dixon K 31 K Ray 3 Socrates J 12 Jeremy B 30 K Ray 27 Dan M 6 Saul C with 14 Francis D 10 Andrew R 19 Dallas B 17 regime H 16 Jake N 28 Saul C 13 Jonathan K 15 Jonathan L 22 Aaron K 29 Sab with 21 Ramirez with 7 Daniel F with 24 So let me get these copied over to the results Or to the website John with a spot tonight. Thank you, buddy. Again. We've got just a Number four again 25 to go in the next one. Let's get the next one filled up as well and certified still Certified will be breaking it soon as well. There is your link that Boom and boom and here we go. We get these Organized column B. All right Good luck again. The so we'll open the box will be facing us this way and then let's go left to right one two three and four It's like Christmas tree opening Oh Nice nice She's 14 chocolate chip cookies. Good Lord Milan Dude, come on Good luck here. Shipe with number one Yeah, I saw the foot long cookie. That's only in select places though base and green Lando Calrissian to at 99 base Yoda canvas nice one there to 25 that'll work good stuff there shipe and a Uh Si Rinali nice one there on the base on Francis D at two and Kray at three Michael see it for Yeah, nice. The Yoda is actually pretty dope. I'm not gonna lie on that. Shipe. That's a pretty solid head Django blue Janna That's Malbus and Luminara unduly Grads on that one as well. Very nice. Very nice Ravens now gone in 46 When our unduly nice one there Francis on the auto Yeah All right, Kray at three now good luck Kray Kray with the sketch baby.  Look at the sketch on this.  We've seen so far today. Holy Kray. Congrats, buddy. Let's go.  What a card? That is disgusting best sketch of the day right there. She's Holy cow, dude She's Louise. Let's go Kray Michael see at four now Michael see at four this case is already off to a Yeah, that was an insane mini box And a plate now and a plate grito and Torra doza. That's why I like major domo. That is a foil of One of the quote cards and then printing plate is one of one Emperor Palpatine ice one there Palpatine very nice. Congrats Michael. All right Michael G Dan M Ramirez and Shane on box two here guys Dude that sketch is just nuts man crazy that sketch is absolutely freaking bananas, dude Oh, it's so good, man. Michael G. Good luck, buddy Michael G. Let's do it director Krennic on the blue Down Erso Corsanton to at 299. There is a little bit of a lift on the peeling down there I will get you an empty box and wrapper and then drummer auto to at 99 on the blue nice one there Michael grab you Yeah, stuff does go very fast. It doesn't it's not easy to get once it sells Cert number six Dan M. Good luck. You're Dan Dan M with a sketch now Green crosshair. This is just like the last case. Do we hit a sketch in the first two boxes? And we ended up just continuing to hit sketches Got record a Relious that's not oh my god. That's nuts Jenna McGrath on the stormtrooper sketch, dude Oh my god, I know that's a hand-painted frame Holy cow, man My lord this stuff is crazy. This is a great case with sketches, man great case with sketches. It's unbelievable unbelievable Unbelievable that's six. It's all six all six. Yeah, all right Unbelievable dude Geez man Yeah, we still got 25 in the next one, bro. I know man Remarse it's seven. Good luck. Remarse I know we are hammering through Crescent in and blue jinner, so My entire net worth on this product. That's awesome remarse with the Luke Skywalker stamp to 99. Let's go That's actually pretty solid right there. I'm not gonna lie good stuff on that one remarse. That is awesome, man That is awesome, and then Shane Shane now at eight. Good luck Shane Shame got a thicky We have an onset onset prop relic We have medallion. We didn't even hit a single medallion in the last case notice that IG 11 Third sister, right in the last one. We've done it. I did you're totally right And we've got sure it in way nice one there 54 of 99 on-screen relic on-screen relic card nice nice one there. That is awesome Shane. Congrats, buddy That is a rebel base radar screen Very nice. You can tell you can see it better in person as well. I want to touch it obviously so nice one there Shane Congrats, buddy. All right. We've got Dallas Francis Alvin and Socrates on this next one Where's the ink? Base and green crosshair 2.99 and Lux Bon Terri auto Bless you. Thank you. 10 is Francis D Look here Francis. Maybe I can get tolpa to give me more mags Shane and makes Mayfield blue direct him to do it. There's a foil to 2.99 Nice one there and a Nami Gima That is 2 of 99 Nami Gima Number 11 is Alvin S. Good luck here Alvin Look Alvin Alvin hitting the sketch sketch number three in three boxes three in three boxes so far Tell us this let's go Alvin Trash and let's go BB8 On the sketch hell yeah Alvin good stuff dude. That's why these catches have been kind of nuts man Dan with a spot in five Matt with an inception spot Chessie with a spot as well and Gary with an inception spot down to 24 to go on the next one now Let's go Alvin Good stuff, dude sketches sketches are have been fired so far Socrates J at 12 now Socrates J at 12 Jakes about a fraction of the fridge Dylan doesn't know where he's at. Got a thickie coming up here Socrates Ace and purple leet 250 The big the autos of like the big actors I would say an actresses Finn it is K2SO on screen prop relic of a rebel base radar skin Her screen nice one there congrats Socrates good stuff buddy Saul at 13 and 14 Jonathan K and Rashim you go eight sketches in this case, dude Imagine we go eight sketches in this case that'd be stupid Han Solo blue Bobby Frick and Ray nice one there on the relic that is raised jacket On the sourced fabric very nice All right, Saul again at 14 now. It's all with a thickie coming up here very thick Sketch best. Hell. Yeah base and blue Chewbacca K2SO cast an andor and Mon Mothma to 99 on the on-screen prop relic card very nice For the couple of spots coming up as well very nice So that'll be 30s. Yeah, these both go to Saul so it's not the Okay, I think I'll be guys that link again to the next one And 24 to go in the next one now 24 to go 24 to go number 15 Jonathan K Jonathan base and blue zero Canvas auto is admiral Tarkin nice one there Stephen Stanton 7 to 25 Congrats on that one Stephen Stanton great auto on that as well and Then 16 Rashim H Rashim H. Good luck Rashim Or a sing and a purple commander pyre base foil of Wicked W. Warwick to at 299 and Sabine red There you go. All right, we've got Dallas Francis Andrew and Michael coming up on this one now. Good luck everybody Dallas at 17 Francis at 18 Andrew at 19 Michael it's Michael see that is it like guys green Jar Jar to 99 Maron Owen Lars and Sabine Ren on the base auto nice one there Dallas 18 Francis D What Francis a blue Sabine Ren R2-D2 and Admiral Ackbar Tim Rose there we go Congrats on that Francis Andrew are now at number 19. Good luck Andrew Got another sketch nice Sketch for sketch for for Andrew are Darth Vader blue that is a foil to 299 dude. Are you another unreal sketch? Holy cow.  Look at the detail on that one On freaking real Andrew. Congrats, buddy sketch four of the case. Let's go Michael B with some more spots tonight Chessie with a spot Matthew with the Texans and black Victor with the Colts. Oh Cato Connick, sorry Cato Connick's wrong one. I'm about I'm about my bed Cato Connick's nice one there That's awesome though. It's like framed as well. She like the artist like drew on the end of the frame Which is awesome Thank you for it's Cato Connick's my bad my bad my bad everybody. It's her daughter. Got you. Thank you Stephen I know a thickie coming up here for Michael C. Cad Bain and red John up to 25 Zero Toradosa and Bail Organa on-screen relic prop or prop relic Hey radar Very nice All right, we've got now Sab Jonathan L. Shane and Daniel left. All right. Good luck here. Sab at 21. Let's go. Let's see. It's sad. Let's go. Sab Base and blue at Jerick Yeager Really on four already and we still have three boxes left My sister and Jawa I just won their Jawa auto Let Lonnie shoot as a Jawa. I like it. Sab. I like it. I'm in I'm in Keith with a couple of spots tonight young with a spot down to 24 to go on the next one everybody next up is Jonathan L at 22 Jonathan L at 22 base blue the Grand Inquisitor the armorer Nice that is a 14 of 25 On the canvas one of the quote cards Shoot us an email Mitchell. Shoot us an email. Nice general grievous Matthew Wood 85 and 99 the voice of general grievous. I love it Hell yeah, dude Jonathan K with six spots in number five. Oh, let's go Jonathan Go down to 18 to go in the next one everybody 18 to go Jonathan. Thank you brother 23 Shane the Shane's there go Shane Shane another fiction See you Shane. I'm sort of relic. It's looking like you're Shane. I like it base and green Beru Lars Chew it 99 Tech a soka. Oh, we got two hits for you Shane saga rara auto to start you off base auto and Luke Skywalker dude on the source fabric relic nice one there the battle to Battle tunic congrats on that one Shane. That's dope. Let's go Shane Good stuff man the Luke relic very cool and Danny Let's go man. That's for Shane, baby. Go Shane. Let's go Shane Luke Skywalker Let's go Shane massage ventures and a blue Omega Conics as we're richer in a medallion a croissant in medallion. Oh, that's fire.  They have like it's tools and technology so cool, man. So cool. Let's go All right, Danny. Congrats, buddy Dallas on the next two K Ray and Jake N So Dallas Dallas K Ray and Jake Yeah, we didn't hit a medallion the entire last case either so they're not super easy to pull either Oh You're looking at 18 to go Chris now you're looking at 15 Chris with three 15 to go 14 to go on the next one 14 to go on the next one 10 spots have come in since I last dropped a link last masterwork everybody Very nice. All right. Here we go Dallas on the first two. Good luck Dallas at 25 Dude, this stuff is so good man Airport is so confusing. I've heard that I've heard that shorts Green director Crennick to 99 Got you Mitchell Cabine and FN 2199 Nice one there as well Sean with a spot Thank You Sean. We're down to 13 13 to go in our last masterwork at the morning here everybody. Thank you again Dallas at 26 again. Let's go Dallas fifth brother blue IG 11 in a Java auto Love me a good job as well All right, K Ray at 27 now. Good luck K Ray See it K Ray Dude really went two for two on skit. No, I didn't know I was gonna say this dude I was about to say this dude went two for two on schedule, but he did not I thought this was a you could tell this Kind of looks like a sketch so Toro Callican trash to 50 on the purple Got Garza flip sure a in way and general layout or gone on the stamp relic nice one there K Ray good stuff, buddy and Then 28 is mr. Jake N. Good luck Jake face blue third sister And in Jara's nice foil of a stormtrooper to 299 and a soka relic dude Let's go shirt lining a soka source frame relic Insane man Socrates with a spot Dan with another spot K Ray with another spot. Let's go We're down to I believe tend to go on the last one guys are crazy tend to go in the last one All right, and then now we've got Jake no Jake those jakes Aaron Jeremy Dixon and Matthew Trying to get those sticky slab. I know man. Good Lord. Good Lord. Dude. This has been fun, man Yeah, we got one more sketch everybody. We got one more sketch We get number five again. Can we can we tie from last uh? Last break that'd be dope. We have a sketch counter in your name. We do need a sketch I know kind of unbelievable All right, Aaron. Good luck Aaron Aaron's got a sketch. We're at five. Let's go. Come on Aaron. There it is base and green Toro doza So that means Aaron now back-to-back breaks is hit the Donnie and auto and now a sketch Let's go Aaron a.k. Baby. Let's go here. It's on Cal cast it dude. That's disgusting.  Let's go. Congrats, Aaron Jeremy B now at 30 Good luck to your Jeremy So sick dude, so sick Boba and bd1 Grogu Seri hoon junda and body rook on the Uh rebel base radar screen Nice prop the Chris v seven spots in number five. God man. We're at three to go everyone. Let's go chris. Insane, dude Let's go chris insane. Let's go Aaron. Thank you, buddy Thank you for buying spots. Let's go Dixon Come on Dixon. Let's see something big for you, man. Man. This has been such a fun day of breaking, man We've got a Darth Vader Tatooine sand eight Captain Rex Obi-Wan and fennec shan's nice one there make now when 31 of 99 that'll work dude That will work Hell yeah, Saul with a spot. We're down to two to go everybody We were at 25 when this break started. We're at two to go wild. You guys are crazy That fennec shan's a big one for sure Dixon that is solid That is solid man very solid and Matthew j to finish this off at 32. Good luck, brother So in civilized kid will co conics or kid will conics Uh, that is a rainbow foil chubaca to 299 and jar jar binks. What a way to end it man. I'm at best. It's jar jar binks Very nice. That'll do it for the break everybody. Thanks again for the fill appreciate it up next is number five


Novak Djokovic vs Danil Mevvedev is the final of the US Open for the men for 2023. And both have had to fight to get to this stage. Mevvedev entered the tournament and has a number 3 seed and will take on Balash in the first round. This is no problem getting through in straights, 6-1, 6-1, 6-1, 6-love. In the second round he'd take on O'Connell and run away with it in the fourth, 6-2, 6-2, 6-7, 6-2. In the third round he'd take on Baez and after a close third set, Mevvedev would get through in straights, 6-2, 6-2, 7-6. In the fourth round he'd take on Diminor and after dropping the first set, Mevvedev would fight back to win. 2-6, 6-4, 6-1, 6-2 to advance to the quarter-finals. In the quarter-finals Mevvedev will take on the number 8 seed Rublev. This is no problem for Medi getting through in straights, 6-4, 6-3, 6-4 to advance to another semi-final of the US Open. In the semi-finals Mevvedev will take on the number 1 seed Karl Zulkras. But this time Medi figured it out, getting the first two sets and eventually the fourth, winning 7-6, 6-1, 3-6, 6-3 to advance to the final. Djokovic started the tournament as the number 2 seed and will take on Muller in the first round. This is no problem getting through in straights. 6-love, 6-2, 6-3. In the second round he'd take on Marius and again, no problem getting through in straights. 6-4, 6-1, 6-1. In the third round he'd take on the 32 seed Jera. With Djokovic having to come back from two sets to love down, eventually getting through in 5, 4-6, 4-6, 6-1, 6-1, 6-3. In the fourth round he'd take on the qualified Gojo and after a close second set, Djokovic would get through in straights. 6-2, 7-5, 6-4 to advance to the quarter-finals. In the quarter-finals Djokovic would take on the number 9 seed Fritz. And even though Fritz put up a fight in the third, Djokovic would get through in straights. 6-1, 6-4, 6-4 to advance to the semi-finals again. In the semi-finals Djokovic would take on the unseded Sheldon. And after winning the first two sets, Djokovic would fight in the third to win. 6-3, 6-2, 7-6 to advance to another US Open final. These guys have played 14 times with Djokovic leading the head to head 9-5. But Medvedev did win their last match in Dubai back in February. And of course we can't forget the last time they played at a slam two years ago at this stage of the 2021 US Open. Medvedev is going to win this one. He's going to have to rely on those memories from two years ago. Of course we know what happened there. It was like a little bit of a different situation too with Djokovic going for history, the calendar slam and all that. But Medvedev needs to get those memories going and remember that he can win against Djokovic in a slam. Also serve well and just rally like he did against Elkvist so well. If Djokovic is going to win this one, he needs to almost put those memories out of his head that he's lost so many US Open finals. It is worse slam if you look at his record. He's won all the other slams pretty well. Except for maybe the French Open but that's Nadal. He has had a lot of random losses though at this tournament including that one two years ago against Medvedev. So he's going to have to kind of keep that out of his head and just rally with Medvedev and maybe wear him down. What a great final. I guess Elkvist Djokovic was the best final but this is the second best final we could have asked for. I'm going to go with Djokovic so the winning four. I don't know if Medvedev could do what he did two years ago. The situation is a little different. Of course Djokovic isn't going for history, not the calendar slam anyway. 24 slams that's what he's going for. I think he might get it in four. But let me know down in the comments below. Who's winning the US Open?