This is the SF Productions podcast network 60s and 70s television Welcome to vast wasteland Welcome home video journal of popular culture. I'm Mark Spadar along with Wilbert Neil and Marty Wiley Well tonight we're gonna talk about these it's kind of like special appearance by episode It's the people who just just kind of hoard for TV as much as they possibly could It's like any show you pay me the money. I'll be there That kind of deal these guys would not turn a job down if the life depended on That's right. That's right But before we get into that We want to tell you that we're on Tuesdays at 6 Wednesdays at 10 and Thursdays at 3 p.m. Here on ACTV cables what he was also we want to tell you if you want to write into Vast wasteland you want to write in to box 15 more team 11 Columbus, Ohio 4 3 2 1 5 Also, we want to congratulate Marty Wiley Marty Wiley who walked away with a slew a boatload a plethora of awards At the at the the big Awards there was a lot more than anybody else. I heard they were gonna rename the show the the Marty Wiley The MJ Wiley Memorial Awards show But it was a boatload and you'll probably they'll be showing that pretty soon So pretty much you want to see Marty getting up a lot and accepting awards On this stage on top of a mountain. Yeah, there you go. So tune in for that, but I did it That's right anyways We can't mention that without mention the fact that our producer our director our director the guy off-camera over that way He's he was in on several of the things that were that were nominated for And also our camera guy, right? We are the award-winning Vast wasteland This is quality TV and it's free That's right. Don't let them take it away from here on our cable so Don to tonight's episode special appearances by What do we got first? We're over there. Well now when we when I first thought about this I was hoping that we would be able to find enough people, but by golly They just kept going here Who do we have first? Well, let's let's look at Eddie Albert Eddie Albert What did Eddie Albert do other than well, of course he did he had two different TV shows that I can think of right off the bat Okay, you had your green acres and you had your Switch Those were steady job. Yeah, I mean yeah doing green acres maybe and I It seems that the other things that he did were back in the 50s Yeah Back when nobody knew who he was. He was in a show called leave it to Larry in 1952 He played Larry Tucker probably the lead character of the thing Nothing but the best which was a variety show He was the host of nothing but the best in 1953 And then Saturday Night Review. It was another variety show He was the host of Saturday Night Review 1954 and then we take that big jump up to 1965 where he does the green acres thing Obviously why he did green acres. He hadn't done stuff for a while. He's like my career seems to be And of course we can look at Edward Albert who is the son of Eddie Albert Who was like the it looks like he's the king of the The the miniseries here No, no, no, no, no, that's Richard. Richard Chamberlain is the king. Edward Albert is probably one of the crown princes of the miniseries Miniseries. Well, we have here the last convertible which might have just been pretty much a movie Yeah, that's a movie I think In 1979 he was Ron Dowell The yellow rose a drama and he played Kisto Shampion This was in 1983-84.  He was on Falcon Crest Oh jeez As Jeff Wainwright Yeah Of course then who wasn't. This is true That's kind of why they created those nighttime soap operas to give everybody who wasn't doing something at the time Something to do But you know what the ultimate is?  He guest stars a lot of game shows He did If you wanted to see a poem You wanted to hear a poem Just let Nipsey show them That's not right I did have to wag They would clap me in That would be his poem for the day Or just go Nipsey did a poem That old match game crew in fact The match game with Gene Rayburn That whole crew, they were just game show people Game and show people Nothing better to do Come over to the studio We'll shoot a half done as another sucker And then when you got to do the 70's match game It was all just in new window Oh yeah But they made a living at it I guess so Double on thunder and in new window In fact those were guests on the show Double on thunder and in new window Okay let's move on here Jack Albertson Jack Albertson known to a lot of people as Grandpa Joe on Willie Wonka in the chocolate factory Yeah But by galley on TV He was just a king, a star Let's go back in 1948 Wait a minute We weren't born then I don't think so And well apparently TV had just been born I'm guessing he looked old even then right Probably did 1948 Anyways he was the host of a variety show There were a lot of variety shows back then Because they were really cheap Broadway Jamboree This is the only show cheaper than a Baroque show, come on 1948 And then he was, he played Lieutenant Harry Evans on The Thin Man Which was a series in 1958 to 59 Talk about people that look old forever Remember every time they needed an old man They got that old man named Bert, Bert Oh what? Mustin Bert Mustin Mustin Remember any time that he was somebody old That looked old He was the man He was always old Yeah well Bert's just Every TV show ever takes He's always been old and with no teeth Right No hair But to continue on with Jack Alberson here Room for one more He was Walter Burton This is 1962 It's an old tool He was Lieutenant Commander Virgil Stoner 62-63 What a name Dr. Simon Locke He was Dr. Sellers No excuse me, 1971-72 Well Chico and the man He was Ed Brown 74-78 Grandpa goes to Washington He was Senator Joe Kelly 78-79 The man just couldn't stop working Boy that Eddie Alberson Jack Alberson, excuse me But let's talk about some of the heavyweights In the world of just You give me money I'll be there Okay well I think we have to mention first We talked about the fact that Variety shows were cheap to do It's kind of the idea I think that a lot of these people Guest starred was because They were in the place In the studio at the time They did one show And they're walking down the hall There's another one going on So they would stop in there Another guy, another one Or they were just like They would like write their name down And tack it to the billboard Tommy, please I'm available between Pauline had to be the king Because he did Hollywood squares He was that center square forever But he did what? Bewitched, he did all the voices In the world for cartoons And the thing was He never managed to make They actually did the Pauline show At one point And it was a complete disaster He just couldn't carry his own show But they just call him like Man to do the old side parts We can only take as much of that Winey little man stuff Yeah you know Well here let me I'll let you We'll get the list here Well we have the Well we have He was on the red button show We see a lot of A lot of variety shows Craft Music Hall Jonathan Winters show Dean Martin presents the Gold Diggers Where's Huddle Oh yeah Great cartoon And he was on that Temperatures Rising Which is kind of an interesting This was a show that They actually went through About eight different Permutations of this show And every single one of them Mummed There was this guy He was like This show will work And it never did I don't get it Now let's see He was Horace Spenton On Stanley in 56 to 57 And of course his big stint On Bill which has Uncle Arthur Uncle Arthur Saka Zuki Saka Zuki Saka Zuki Sim 1965 All the way to 72 He was on The Pruits of South Hampton Playing Harvey Now I believe That was That was the one that Fillers Fillers Yeah And let's see We've got Where's Huddles The Paul Linn show Was only out for a year Playing Paul Sims And then of course He was a frequent guest On the Donnie and Marie Variety series Oh yeah It's a wonderful show I'm a little big country One of the reasons Variety shows are dead today Donnie and Marie show So this guy You know He peed me there That was an arrow through The Heartwood Well let me Give you this one Which gives more credit To Paul Linn here He was on the Red Button show On CBS From 52 to 53 Did they mention The Pericole Craft Music Hall Yeah Craft Music Hall Not listening Well we'll move on Down here He guest starred On the Ed Sullivan Show In 1952 Ruggles of Red Gap In 1957 The Tonight Show In 1957 Phil Silver Show Boko's Big Woman Hunt Boko's Big Woman Hunt That was the episode Oh okay The Phil Silver Show That was a series I would hope not The Luck Show With Rosemary Clooney In 1958 Steve Allen presents The Steve Lawrence Edie Gourmet Show In 1958 The Jack Parr Show In 1959 The George Goble Show In 1959 The Phil Silver Show Boko In Outer Space In 1959 Jack Parr Show In 1960 The Annie Williams Show In 1962 Jackie Gleason Show In 1962 Henry Fonda And The Family In 1962 The Genius 1963 Brooks Law Who Killed Cable Roberts 1963 Grindel Twas the Week Before Christmas 1963 Jack Parr Program 1964 Brooks Law Who Killed Merlin the Great 1964 The Mike Douglas Show Syndicated 1964 The Monsters Rockabye Monster 1964 The Monsters The Low Cal Monster 1964 The Monsters Annie's Knickname 1965 Okay Okay You get the idea And I don't know Do you look At your pictures Like me Yeah No I don't know Like every In fact I just saw him Last week In House Party 2 In fact Yeah In fact Yeah In fact At one point He was like He was like The President Of the The screen actors of the Emmy people Oh, yeah Oh, yeah The Television Academy of Arts and Science on Dobie Gillis. He was on dozens of shows. No, you know, he just pops up all of them. He's still working. Right. I was in house party last week. Playing an old crazy man. Okay, let's see. Burt's Law, mentioned Burt's Law before, okay. Hollywood Palace, Gidget, F-Truth, I Dream of Jeannie, Bob Hope Chrysler Theater. If you did, if you did the wish, you had to do I Dream of Jeannie. Yeah, that kind of seemed to be the answer. That was a reciprocal deal there. That girl, hey landlord Beverly Hillbillies, everybody's talking. Everybody had to do Hollywood Palace. That's how you paid your dues. The Mothers-in-Law, The Jonathan Winters Show, The Flying Craft Musical, Love American Style, of course, who wasn't on The American Style. The Glen Campbell Good Time Hour. Oh, he did some ruins in Martin's Laugh-in Password, The Dating Game, Not Davis Show. Okay, okay. We get the idea. Paul was a hard-working guy. TV movies and mini-series. And you know what? Gidget grows up. Gidget gets married. He just worked himself to death. Yeah, that's what it is. He's still worked himself. And here's a little synopsis of him. He's a comic actor who usually played a smug, fussy type. He was a long-time center-square on the Hollywood Squares, mounting scripted jokes as if they were spontaneous witticism. Ooh, can we say that out to you, Z? Mouthing, scripted. That's what we can't say. Scripted? Yeah, that's what bothered me. I just said so many things. Fanny Flag used to do a lot of shows, too. Fanny Flag. There's another one. Did he kind of grew up a Fanny Flag? No, I can't see. I grew up on her. I mean, she was just as everything.  But she was just on, like, everything. Yeah, that Fanny Flag was part of it. She was like the only actress in the Southern accent, I guess. That kept it. That kept it. She was proud of her Southern accent, so she kept it. She was like on a new Vic-Dandike. New Vic-Dandike show. He said, no, no, no, no. Match Game PM. Match Game PM. Excedrin PM. Match Game PM. For the nighttime, watch it. The Liars Club. Oh, the Liars Club. Harper Valley PTA. That's serious. Oh, yeah. Most of the cast of Hogan's Heroes seem to show up a lot on that. That was a good show, though. The Candy Camera. The Match Game. Yeah, Candy Camera's where I really remember from a lot. Her groupin' show. Oh, here's one of my favorites. The Bobby Gentry Special. Is that the old Sir Beat the Clock? No, no, this was the original Beat the Clock, syndicated back in 1969. Wow. It was a good one. Cross Wits. She was on Captain Kangaroo. Oh, the Love Vote. Everybody was on the Love Vote. She was the new original Wonder Woman, which was... Wait a minute. I got one who was on every show. Billy Barney. We need a short guy. A real short guy. Billy's your man, he's there. Billy Barney. Okay, short guy's in costumes. I'll go with that for Billy Barney. Other than that, it was Michael Dunn, who was pretty much the short guy. But Billy Barney was the short guy in costumes. Billy Barney's been on every show. He's been on every show. Look at Billy Barney. He's been on every show. Paul In did a show together. It was the Billy Barney book. It's just references. It's a very short one. Well, why are you looking for that? We got it. We got it. Okay, Ford Festival Circus Boyd. The Spike Jon show. Club of Ways, the Sigmund and the Sea Monster. Ace Crawford, Private Eye. Also, Mr. Lucky, this is your life. Peter Gunn, our link letter. Rawhide, my three sons. Get Smart. Love, American Style. Barney Miller, Love Boat. Little House on the Prairie. Everybody knows. The Short Cut. The Prairie. It's still too big for him. Chips. Everybody's been on chips. The Short Driver. Chips, the show with Erica Strada. And Michael Dorn. That's right. Erica Strada pulling over babes for having too big a taco now. Yeah. Can we say that on TV? No, too big a taco. Ooh. Okay, let's go to another big guy. Bernie Cappell. Oh, my goodness. This is your man. Building up for Bernie for two years now. This whole show was based originally on Bernie Cappell. He inspired this show. It's dedicated to him. This man. I don't think he ever actually had a starring role on the show. Well, he wasn't a star. Gavin McLeod was a star. But he had to be there. He was a co-star. He could be a co-star on the show. That was one thing. Well, of course, his big part is sink breed and get smart. He was Jerry Bowman on That Girl. Everybody was on that. Charlie Miller on Needles and Pins. Okay. Alan Adele on When Things Were Rotten. That great... Well, now I can't think of his name. Mel Brooks TV show. And it was just a great show. Oh, yeah. Really was. One of the reasons it was probably great is because Mel didn't try to star in it. That was before he had to be the star of every movie, every project he was in. There was a jumper for old Mel there. But, okay, Bernie. And then, of course, Adam Bricker. Dr. Adam Bricker on The Love Boat. The Love Boat. I did not realize The Love Boat ran from 1977 to 1986. That's scary. Oh, yeah. Still in production at Underground Laboratories. Ah, but now I have here the... Did you know that? ...that Lauren Tweed's clone. I have the Bernie Capil casting episode. No! Okay, just... If you tape this part of the show, you may just pass forward a little while. My favorite... The Lucy Show. Ben Casey. The Beverly Hill Billy. The Farmer's Daughter. The Dick Van Dyke Show. Death of a Salesman. Green Acres. The Hero. The Flying Nun. Everybody did the flying. Everybody did that. Room 222. Love American Style. Everybody did Love America. Funny Face. Funny Face. That was the Sandy Duncan. The Odd Couple. Bob Newhart Show. The Doris Day Show. The Paul Lin Show. Paul called all his friends up. I'm coming to get a show. I'm coming to get a show now. If you ever get a show, I'm coming on your show. Col Jack. Switch. Chico and the Man. Alice. The New Mike Hammer. ABC After School Special. The Day My... Kid Went Punk. It was a very special after school special. It was a real short when the kid comes home. TV movies and miniseries. Love Vote 2 and Get Smart Again. Okay. Absolutely amazing. Absolutely amazing. Oh, man. Oh, jeez. You did Beverly Hillbillies, too, huh? Yeah. She did Beverly Hillbillies, but she also had her own show. Well, you want to talk about the other big guy? The other guy we were actually going to originally create the whole show for Bernard Fox. Bernard Fox. Come on, stop. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Dr. Bombay, come right away. Ha, ha, ha. I was busy. Ha, ha, ha. Trying to get a new pair of alligator shoes. I was in the swamp. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. That's where you gonna be. Go on. And he was Colonel Crittenden on Hogan Zero. Oh, yeah. Playing virtually the same character. Ha, ha, ha. Hold him. Ha, ha. You got one voice. You got one character. That's all you do. Interesting, though, that Bernard Fox actually played before he played Dr. Bombay. Wow. Yeah, he played this other part playing pretty much the same character. Ha, ha, ha. As this guy who was like a lecturer saying that, that, uh, like witches weren't real and all this and he accidentally, through his archeological travels, had picked up this ring or something that actually affected witches and Sammy is like, is popping in and out and stuff and they have to trick it, trick him to get it away from him because he's witchcrafted and doesn't work on him. Ha, ha, ha. And then he came back later to play Dr. Bombay. Ha, ha, ha. Okay, but he was also on... Ha, ha, ha. The Andy Griffith Show. I'm thinking Flying Nun. Ha, ha, ha. The Dick Van Dyke Show. Hey, there's a different one. Okay, I'll just go to try to find the different ones. The big one. I think Man for Monkey. Okay, over here. I like this. We have the Man for Monkey, The Thor Affair, followed by Hogan Zero's The Crittenden Plan. The Monkeys. Yeah, everybody was on the monkey. The Wild Wild West. Hogan Zero's and King. Love American Style, of course. Partridge Family, that's what we have in her. Colombo, that's another one we haven't heard yet. Wasn't it like a requirement in the 60s that you had to be on Love America's Hour? Was it the 70s? The early 70s. Whoa! Mash! Lou Grant. Simon and Simon. Murder she wrote. Another one. Okay, and he was in a couple of movies and TV's and movie miniseries things. Hunter and Baskervilles and Gogan the Savage. Ooh. I wanted to mention somebody. I don't know if they're even in here, because this woman's doing a lot of shows that don't seem to do very well. She was originally on Fridays. Yeah, and she's done a lot of shows. In fact, she's now on this new Jackie Thomas show, which I won't mention the network, so I'm not suing it or something, but it's bad. It's really bad. It's 800 characters, and you don't care about a single one of them. Well, if we're going to talk about that, Melanie Shartoff was also on that Friday show, and I kind of had a soft spot there from Melanie Shartoff. Is that why you watch Parker Lewis? Ooh. Well, who else we got? How about Artie Johnson? Yeah, Artie didn't do it. Artie was on everything. I bet he was going to love Americans. How much do you want to bet? I'm betting you're right. I'm betting you're right. Artie Johnson, because he was, you know, most of them laughing, but it seemed like he showed up on everything. When they needed somebody a little bit taller than Billy Barty. Well, they needed somebody who was like, a normal... Someone who was big. A normal size but yet short. A normal size yet short. When they called me a short guy, they said Billy Barty, no, too short. Artie Johnson. It was either Artie Johnson or Henry Gibson. It was the other one. Because I think they're pretty much about the same size. Because they were both on Laugh-In. And they were both short. And they were both, yeah, not tall. Of course, everybody was... Artie Johnson. Was he going to love American style? I'm betting he's going to love American style. I think you're right. I mean, when in comic, who was White Hot in the late 60s, thanks to Ronan Martin, on which he played the very interesting Nazi, the dirty old man Tyrone F. Horneye, and other resorted characters. He was on Sally. He was on Hennessy. Don't call me Charlie. Ronan Martin's laughing. Ben Vereen's coming at ya. The gong show. Knockout, gangsta people play, and glitter. But he was also on December Bride. The Twilight Zone. Peter loves Mary. Dinah Shore, special. Bringing up Buddy. Alfred Hitchcock. The Andy Griffith Show. The G.E. True. Mikael's Navy. No time for Sargeants. Bob Hope Chrysler is the editor. A load of stuff. Do you love American stuff? I love American stuff. Love American stuff. Love and the Living Doll. I even remember seeing that episode. Oh, he's on another one. Love and the Nurse. Well, believe it or not, we're actually done with a half hour. Oh, I don't want to know about that. We seem to... It's time to just get the heck out of here because next time we're going to be talking about...  More DC? More DC comics. Back to the comic book deal. More to that dark comic book thing. And to you and all of yours. The most merriest of Christmas and holiday seasons. Even though you probably won't see this one until somewhere in January. Who knows when it'll be on. So, tune in next time for that. For all of us here at Vast Wasteland, we'll see you next time. Go on over, mother! Oh-ho-ho!


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What's happening guys? It's Sean Anthony and this video is going to be a little different than what you're used to from me I'm going to sit here I'm going to have a conversation with you a real conversation about the truth about starting a drop servicing agency in 2020 and beyond So drop servicing the term itself is this new hot term. It's all over YouTube. It's all over Google I'm leveraging it to help me grow my channel, right? But the actual business model itself like what it actually is at its core which I'll explain in a second has been around for ages Right, it's actually just a rebranded term for outsourcing now for us We're basically what we're doing as a drop servicing agency We are connecting buyers or people who were looking for a service to sellers or providers of that service, right? And I'm not you don't have to do any of the work yourself. That's the beauty of this model, right? So let's take a look at some examples of billion-dollar companies today that are using a similar type of model, right? This drop servicing model you have companies like Uber and Lyft, right example number one What do they do? Well, they don't own any of the cars All they do is they connect people who are looking for a ride to people who have cars that can give them a ride They don't own these cars. They don't own the drivers. All they're doing is connecting these two, right? They're being the middleman They're connecting the people who need a ride to people who can give them a ride, right? That's all they're doing. They're billion-dollar company air B&B number two This is another example all they're doing they don't own any houses They connect people who are looking for a place to stay in a certain state or country or wherever To people who have a home in those states or countries or wherever that place is right? They connect these people people who are looking for a place to stay to people who have a place to stay They connect these two Expedia, this is number three Expedia booking comm these travel booking websites They don't own all these airplanes. They don't own all these hotels All they're doing is connecting the people who need some kind of travel arrangement a hotel a flight to airline companies The hotels to people who can provide that right so really you are just the as a drop servicing agency owner You are the middle person the middleman, right? And you're connecting people who need something a certain service to providers of that service now the beauty of this model the The reason why such a big amazing opportunity these days is with the rise of the gig economy really freelancers Outsourced work where you don't have to do it yourself The beauty of this model is you can come into Entrepreneurship for the first time and you can step into this agency models drop servicing agency model You don't have to have years and years and years of experience delivering a certain service You can just find people who are already expert at delivering it and connect them to people who actually need that service Right and that's all you're doing and eventually over time you can build your own systems and your own processes and all that stuff But in the beginning all you have to do is find people who are already expert at delivering the service that you want to sell and Work with them to help deliver it to your clients, right? So there's many different ways that you can actually deliver the service There's white label providers and freelancers right people who are already expert at delivering the service that are outsourced companies or outsourced Individuals right there is hiring in-house contractors or in-house virtual assistants, right? And this is more so when you've got some experience and you find a system that works and you just want to start hiring people in-house You can hire in-house contractors and virtual assistants to do the work for you under your company That's kind of what we do now. You can also use software, right? So there's software out there that you can buy for like $50 a month That do an entire service on its own like posting content on social media or sending out LinkedIn messages You can buy these these software products for $50 a month and you can sell it as a service, right? Sell it as a content creation service or a social media management service to clients for a markup Right 500 bucks a month a thousand bucks a month getting them a result a result that they're looking for right? So these companies if you have it and we love we love services that are tied to growth and revenue and leads Because these have a direct impact on the bottom line. It helps these companies grow and they can see it, right? But there are thousands of different services out there. There's translation services. There's transcription services There's graphic design services. There's design. There's normal design services all these different services There's thousands of them out there, right? We just like marketing advertising and growth related services But you can go into this business the reason it's so amazing You can come into this business without any experience delivering any of the services Spend a few days learning about it and talking to these white label providers or these outsource providers and Working with them partnering with them to get clients and deliver an amazing service to them and get them an amazing result, right? That's all you're doing now the problem is The problem is on YouTube you're seeing all these videos now all these like young kids or even these other people Maybe they're not that not that young but they they don't have any experience in this business model They're just testing things out. They're they're building like cartridge pages They're sending Google ad and Facebook ad traffic to it to low-quality Services and that's just not the way that I see it if you want to build a long-term sustainable business, right? So the truth about starting a drop servicing agency is it takes work, right? I'm not saying you're never going to work. It takes work to get going in the beginning Yes, you can get into it with zero experience and zero dollars But you need to be willing to learn you need to be willing to take action You need to be willing to talk to your clients and help them get a result This is not some kind of business like dropshipping and I've been in dropshipping. I've generated millions of dollars in dropshipping It's not like dropshipping where you just sell low ticket crappy products from China and Just hope for the best right and find winning services every single week. You can do that But what's what's the point you your business gets worse over time, right? So if you want to build a long-term Sustainable business in this drop servicing industry, right? You want to start a drop servicing agency and have it get better over time, right? Then I want you to follow these five steps that I'm gonna lay out in here I'm gonna jump into my computer I'm gonna show you the five simple steps to starting a drop servicing agency the right way from someone who has actually Generated multi six figures in this business model over the last two and a half years and how to get better and better and better over time How do you go up over time instead of down and having to find winning services every single week? Okay, so let's jump into my computer. I'm gonna walk through this with you This is how I've set my business up and this is how you should if you want that long-term sustainable business That's gonna get better over time. Okay, so let's hop right into my computer now All right guys, so in this part of the video I'm gonna go over the five simple steps to a six-figure drop servicing agency that actually gets better over time, right? A business that gets better not worse over time Now these exact five steps are the ones that I use the 10x my business and build a multi six-figure drop servicing agency In five months none. I'm not saying that you're gonna do the same thing here I had experience before we had a local marketing agency before we pivoted and started offering LinkedIn as a service But you can see here on the left August 2018 We were at $4,000 a month on our new offer at growth response and we got the $37,000 per month by 2019 That's nearly a 10x in five months using the steps I'm gonna outline in this part of the video Okay, so let's jump right into it step number one is to pick a vertical niche This means to pick a vertical or industry that you want to work with and specialize in getting results for okay Now you should have prior experience. You should be passionate about it or at the very least Interested in learning more about and potentially working with the vertical industry long term, right? If you start getting results for them, you start getting a lot of clients your message starts to work You're not gonna want to jump niches You're gonna want to stick in that niche and specialize in it and build your business around it Which is what you're gonna do if you start seeing results with it, okay? So at growth response, that's B2B software That's that's the vertical that we were focused on and the reason I picked that was I am an entrepreneur I'm a business owner I use a lot of software to run my business and I thought why not I'm already passionate about running my business I'm passionate about learning more about it and getting better Why not work with software companies who sell these software products because I use it a lot for my business I want to learn more about them and how they operate and help them get results, right? So that's why I picked B2B software I wanted to use or work more with companies that sell products that I use for my business, right? I was passionate about learning more about these companies even though I didn't have any direct experience in them myself So that's step number one pick a vertical niche and I have other videos on my channel about that that you can find Step number two is to pick a service now if you are brand new to business and entrepreneurship And you haven't started an agency or anything like that before this is gonna be a little more difficult It's gonna be a little more difficult to pick something but what you want to do is Identify work from the market first the vertical first Identify a problem that your vertical has that you want to solve and find services that they're already buying to solve that problem For example, we are solving the problem of lead generation at growth response, right? So we said, okay I want to solve the problem of lead generation every business has a lead problem, right? Nearly every single business has a problem consistently generating leads For any industry right so for software companies, we looked at them and said, okay, the problem is lead generation What are they already buying to solve that problem? And they were buying things like Facebook ads like Google ads like LinkedIn marketing They were hiring people in-house right employee sales development and business development reps so If you want the easy button you want a shortcut on picking the best services pick anything tied to leads growth and or revenue This is the easiest to sell and you can charge the most amount of money for it because every business needs it They need leads they need sales they need growth. Otherwise, why are they in business? And when you offer something that solves for that problem, it has a direct impact on their bottom line So that's why it's easiest to sell and you can charge the most amount of money for it So that's what we like marketing and advertising and lead generation services is because it has a direct impact on their bottom line Now what you don't want to do is once you've identified a problem and then you've picked a service deliver to solve that problem They're already buying You're gonna find a fulfillment provider and the way that you do that is using a simple search on Google You can type in best white label whatever your services best white label Facebook ad service, right? You can use a platform like Upwork, which is a freelancer marketplace You can find individual freelancers and specialists and outsourced agencies who can actually do a ton of different services Thousands of different services you can find pretty much anything you need to find on there You can look in Facebook groups if you're looking for higher level skilled positions, right? So if you're looking for like high-level media buyers or Facebook advertisers, which you probably won't need in the beginning You can look at Facebook groups and as a last resort if you're selling lower-ticket stuff You can look on Fiverr, even though I don't like to use Fiverr too much for drop servicing But you can look on Fiverr if you're selling lower lower-ticket stuff Okay, so these are some places that you can find people to partner with now There's basically a fulfillment provider now days with the online gig economy for every service you can think of So there's no excuse for you not to be able to find a Provider that you can partner with that you can interview and figure out if you're fit to work together There's no excuse for you not to be able to find someone that can help you with the service without you doing it yourself Okay, so you don't have to be an expert in the service You just got to pick something that you want to offer and you're gonna go out and sell it and then you're gonna Outsource that to someone else who already knows how to do it, okay? So I growth response we offered it done for you LinkedIn lead generation and we use as their fulfillment provider We use in-house virtual assistants in Software to fulfill it we didn't start with this But we developed a system over time of getting results and then we taught that system to in-house Virtual assistants for them to do it and pair it with their software to help them deliver the service Okay, so that's step number two pick a service and then find a fulfillment provider that can help you deliver that if you Don't have any experience in delivering the service Step number three is to generate leads go out and find people who are interested in what you have to offer So you can use free social media and cold emails And I have other videos on my YouTube channel about this to find prospects who are interested in your service that you picked in the last step Okay, if you picked an in demand service that your market is already buying Then you should have no problem lining up 10 to 20 leads and appointments per month at the start, right? So if you've done the research you found things that your markets already buying and you're going out and offering it to them Then you should have no problem finding people who are interested because it's already a proven concept a proven offer that converts on that vertical Right, that's why I told you to find what they're already buying now growth response our favorite place to find Prospects we use multi-channel on Facebook groups Instagram LinkedIn and email We use all those those channels to prospect and generate leads. Okay All you're really doing on these channels is you are sending messages to your market to people who fit your vertical industry and asking them If they have the problem that you have the service that can that can solve that problem, right? So that's step number three go and generate leads and find people who are interested in what you have to offer Step number four is to get clients or secure clients, right? So you've generated leads you found people who are interested How do you turn them into cash in your pocket because leads are not money? You can't take leads to the bank. You can only take cash to the bank, right? So you're gonna get clients. How do you do that? You convert leads into paying clients. How do you do that? Well, you get on the phone with these leads and you convert them, right? I have other videos on my channel again on how you can convert leads into paying clients using the phone Yes, you will suck at this in the beginning just like any new skill you learn, right?  But if you put in the effort to learn this skill, it is the most profitable Skill on earth and the most coveted skill on earth, right? Why do you think sales people get paid so much and why do you think a lot of CEOs in the world have started off in sales? It's because it's the most profitable skill in all of business and all of life Whether you like it or not, you're always selling whether it's your partner in a relationship Whether it's like in business or whether it's on a deal The having the skill of sales and persuasion and learning how to get people to give you money or get people to give you Something that is the most profitable skill on earth, right? So think about it more in a positive light rather than I'm scared of sales I don't want to be pushy. You don't need to be pushy to sell things You just have to learn how to listen and learn how to communicate effectively Now if you're not open to doing that then you might want to leave this video now Go do affiliate marketing or some other business model where you don't have to talk There's tons of them out there, right? If you're not willing to learn this no problem Just then you're not you're not gonna get any value out of this because you do need to learn How to do sales how to get on the phone and close deals, okay? Now a growth response our sales process for getting clients is we first do the prospecting and generating leads We get in a 15-minute discovery call and then we do a demo to close that client So on the demo we're doing is walking them through how our service can help them solve a problem the lead generation Problem in our case and we show them exactly how our service helps them to solve that problem And then we ask for the sale at the end of that that demo Okay, so we asked them if they want to move forward and become a client and get this done, right? And we were either going to get a yes or a no there that's when someone becomes a client when they say yes Now step number five what you do get a client. We're going to outsource service delivery So you if you don't know how to do the service yourself You should have already found a fulfillment provider and once you get a client You're gonna pay a portion of that to your fulfillment provider So whether that's white label or freelancer or contractors and VA's like we use and software like we use You're gonna pay a portion of the sale price that you sold it to your client for to your fulfillment provider You collect the difference between your sales price and your fulfillment price as profit So our growth response we go out and we sell on our base package for $1,500 per month on our LinkedIn service The fulfillment cost is depending on what the client picks a hundred to two hundred dollars per month That means we're getting on average $1,300 per month per client in straight profit Now, how do you get to six figures? How do you get to a hundred K year plus very very simple? I know I say simple a lot, but it is very simple. It's just simple math How to get to a hundred K year in our example if you sell a service to one client That's $1,300 per month in profit if you sell it to two clients. That's $2,600 if you sell it to three That's $3,900 all the way up to seven clients. That's nine thousand one hundred dollars per month in a profit What does this mean? Well, it means that we need seven clients and that's gonna give us nine thousand one hundred dollars per month in profit Which is one hundred and nine thousand two hundred dollars per year in profit Which means we've broken the six figure per year mark, right? So we need seven clients or more to break that hundred K a year mark now This is how you do that you step one you pick a service to sell step two You get free clients using these platforms like Facebook LinkedIn Instagram email then step three you outsource delivery on Freelancers white label five or Upwork whatever you pick and then you just collect a profit and you rinse and repeat You get more clients you outsource delivery you collect the profit you get more clients You outsource delivery collect the profit until you get to whatever this number is, right? So you need to reverse engineer your numbers based on what your sales price is what your profit is and figure out How many clients do you need to get a hundred K a year, right? And once you learn the skills of picking a service and getting clients and outsourcing delivery All you got to do is rinse and repeat this right? That's really all you have to do people over complicate business All we're doing is selling a service that solves the problem We're getting clients of people who want this service and want to solve the problem Then we outsource delivery and we collect a profit. That's it Now if you want my personal help in getting there You want my personal help getting to hundred K year plus in your own drop servicing agency? If you do I will help you with building your drop servicing business from scratch I'll be with generating leads on demand. I'll be with converting leads into high ticket clients I'll help you with managing clients and service delivery I'll help you with systemizing and automating your business I'll help you with building an automated machine and I'll help you with scaling to the next level to six figures and beyond I'll teach you some of our strategies that we use to do that Okay, now my goal is to help you those who are the right fit of course build a long-term sustainable wildly profitable six-figure online business selling digital services that get amazing results for your clients And the key words here are amazing results for your clients, right? This is not some crappy drop-shipping low-ticket business where you don't care about the results of your clients You need to get amazing results for your clients if you want to build a long-term sustainable business Now you will be if you decide to move forward with this and we decide you're a fit You will be an absolute weapon in business marketing sales and automation After going through this coaching and this training and if that sounds like something you want Hit the link in the description. There should be a link in the description somewhere below Watch the short video on that page and if it sounds like a fit schedule a time to chat with me And we'll see if it actually is a fit to work together Okay, now only book time if you are dead serious about putting in the work to make this a success Okay, I get so many comments on my YouTube videos. Hey, how do I do this with zero dollars and not having to work at all? Well news flash you can't okay So if you're not willing to do the work and you're not willing to do the stuff and the steps that I just outlined in here Then you're most likely not going to be a fit Okay, so don't book time. Don't waste my time. Don't waste your time only book time if you are dead serious about this This is not for scared little kitties and kittens that are afraid to push themselves and learn new skills This is not some can I just hide behind my computer all day long and push some buttons and never talk to anyone business, right? You have to talk to clients.   So if that's you hit the link in the description watch the short video on that page and Schedule the time to chat only if you think it's a fit and you're willing to put in the work Okay, I'll talk to you soon if that sounds like you if not no worries I got a lot of free content a lot of free value on my YouTube channel This is for people who are dead serious and want to get to 100k plus in their own drop servicing agency ASAP and do it the right way building a long-term sustainable business from the start Okay, if that is you then I want to talk to you hit the link in the description now and watch the video in that page Schedule time to chat with me and we'll get on the phone and see if it makes sense to move forward Okay, if not, I hope you guys like this is a long video on the truth about drop servicing and 2020 and beyond But yeah, hope you guys like this. I'll see you in the next video


Welcome back everyone to theCUBECon. Cloud NativeCon coverage, I'm John Furrier, host of theCUBE. We're here in person, 2020, 2020, a real event. It's a hybrid event. We're streaming live to you with all the great coverage and guests coming on. Next three days, Clayton Coleman's here, Chief Hybrid Cloud Architect for Red Hat. He's joining me here to give our overviewers talk but also talk about hybrid cloud, multi-cloud, where it's all going, where Red Hat's doing. Great to see you. Thanks for coming on. It's a pleasure to be back. It's a pleasure to be back at theCUBECon. It's an honor to have you on as a Chief Architect at Red Hat on Hybrid Cloud. It is the hottest area in the market right now. The biggest story, obviously we're back in person, that's the biggest story here. The second biggest story that's been the most important story is hybrid cloud. And what does it mean for multi-cloud? This is a key trend. You just gave a talk here. What's your take on it? You know, I like to summarize hybrid cloud as the answer to, or it's really the summarization of yes, please, more of everything, which is we don't have one of anything. Nobody who's got any kind of real footprint is single cloud. They're not single framework. They're not single language. They're not single application server. They're not single container platform. They're not single VM technology. And so, and then, you know, looking around here in this, you know, partner space where eight years into Kubernetes and there was an enormous ecosystem of tools, technologies, capabilities, add-ons, plugins, components that make our applications better. The modern application landscape is so huge that I think that's what hybrid really is, we've got all these places to run stuff more than ever and we've got all this stuff to run more than ever and it doesn't slow down. So how do we bring sanity to that? How do we understand it, bring it together? And Kubernetes has been a big part of that. Like it unlocked some of that. What's the next step? Yeah, that's a great, great commentary. I wanted to take into the Kubernetes piece, but you know, as we've been reporting the digital transformation at an all-time high, speed is the number one request. People want to go faster, not just speeds and fees, but like ship code faster, build apps faster, make it all run faster and secure. Okay, check, get that. Look what we were 15 years ago, 10 years ago, five years ago, 2016, the first KubeCon in Seattle, we were there, the small event, Kubernetes, we got to sell it, figure it out. Convince people that it's worth it. Yeah, so what's your take on that? I mean, obviously it's mature, it's kind of de facto standard at this point. What's missing, where is it? So I think Kubernetes has succeeded at the core mission, which is helping us stop worrying about all the problems that we spent endless amounts of time arguing about. How do I deploy software? How do I roll it out? But in the meantime, we've added more types of software, you know, the rise of AI ML, you know, the whole ecosystem around training software models. Like what is an AI model? Does it look like an application? Does it look like a job? It's part batch, part service. It's spread out to the edge. We've added mobile devices, the explosion of mobile computing over the last 10 years has co-evolved. And so Kubernetes succeeded at that kind of set a floor for what everybody thought was an application. And in the meantime, we've added all these other parts of the application. It's funny, you know, Dave Vellante, we're talking about, and it's Stu Miniman, who now works at Red Hat, who'll be on later. Back in the first two cube cunts, we're like, you know, this is like a TCP-IP moment in the OSI model. That was a killer part of the stack. Now, it was all standardized below TCP-IP. Kubernetes feels like a similar kind of construct where it's unifying, it's creating some enablement, it's enabling some innovation. And it kind of brought everyone together. At the same time, everyone realized that it's real. The whole cloud native is real. And now we're in an era now where people are talking about doing things that are completely different. You mentioned, is it a batch? Is it a job? How is AI? New software paradigm, development paradigms, not the software development lifecycle, it's just like software development in general is impacted. Absolutely, and the components, like we spent a lot of time talking about how to test and build application, but those are things that we all kind of internalize now. We have CI CD processes. CI CD is critical because it's going to be in lots of places. People are looking to standardize, but sometimes the new technology comes up alongside the thing we're trying to standardize and we're like, well, let's just use the new technology instead. Function as a service is kind of a, it came up, Kubernetes grew K native and then you see the proliferation of functions as a service choices. What do people use? So there's a lot of choice and we're all building on those common layers, but everybody kind of has their own opinions. Everybody's doing something subtly different. Let me ask you your opinion on more under the hood kind of complexity challenge. There's general consensus in the industry that there's a lot of complexity. Okay. You don't need to debate that. But that's in a way a good thing. And since if you solve that, that's where innovation comes in. So the goal is to solve complexity, abstract out of the heavy lifting, understeer heavy lifting, as Andy Jackson and I would say, or abstract away complexity and make things easier to use. Well, and open source and this ecosystem is an amazing, it's one of the most effective methods we've ever found for trying every possible solution and keeping the five or six most successful. And that's a little bit like developers, developers flow downhill. Developers are gonna do what's easy. If it's easier to put a credit card in and go to the public cloud, you're gonna do it. If you can take control away from the teams at your organization that are there to protect you, but maybe aren't as responsive as you like, people will go around those. And so I think a little bit of what we're trying to do is what are the commonalities that we could pick out of this ecosystem that everybody agrees on and make those the downhill path that people follow? Not putting a credit card into a cloud, but offering a way for you not to think about what cloud you're on until you need to, right? Cause you want to go to the fridge as a developer, you want to go to the fridge, pull out your favorite brand of soda. That favorite brand of soda might have an AWS label on it. So talk about the, the open shift and the Kubernetes relationship and how you guys pushed that boundaries. Dennis being control plane and nodes. These are things that you talked about in your talk. Talk about, cause you guys made some good bets on open shift. We've been covering that. How's that playing out? And what's the relationship now? It is interesting, coming into Kubernetes, we came in from the platform as a service angle, right? Platform as a service was the first iteration of trying to make the lowest cost path for developers to flow to business value. And so we added things on top of Kubernetes. We knew that Kubernetes would be complex. So we built in a little bit in our structure, in our way of thinking about cube that it was never going to be just that basic bare bones package that you were going to have to make choices for people that made sense. Obviously as the ecosystem's grown, we've tried to grow with it. We've tried to be a layer above Kubernetes. We've tried to be a layer in between Kubernetes. We've tried to be a layer underneath Kubernetes. And all of these are valid places to be. I think that next step is we're all kind of asking, we've got all this stuff. Are there any ways that we can be more efficient? So I like to think about practical benefits. What is a practical benefit that a little bit of opinionation could bring to this ecosystem? And I think it's around applications. It's being application centric. It's what does a team 90% of the time need to be successful? They need a way to get their code out. They need to get it to the places that they want it to be. And that place is everywhere. It's not one cloud or on-premise or a data center. It's the edge. It's running as a lambda. It's running inside devices that might be coming, being designed in this very room today.  It's pretty fascinating and almost intoxicating right now in this market because you have an operating system dynamic, a systems kind of programming model with distributed cloud edge is on fire. That's only going to get more complicated with 5G and high density data applications. And then you've got this changing modal mode of operations for programming with bots and AI and machine learning, two new things, but it's kind of the same distributed computing paradigm. What's your reaction to that? Well, and it's interesting. I was, I kind of described like layers we've gone from Linux replaced proprietary UNIX or mainframe to virtualization, which then we had a lot of Linux. We had some windows too. And then we moved to public cloud and private cloud. We brought config management in, we moved to Kubernetes. We still got that OS at the heart of what we do. We've got application libraries and we've shared services and common services. I think it's interesting like to learn from Linux's lesson which is we want to build an open expansive ecosystem. Yeah, here. Kind of like, kind of like what's going on. We want to pick enough opinionation that it just works because I think just works is what, let's be honest, we could come up with all the great theories of what the right way computers should be done but it's going to be what's easy, what gets people, help them get their jobs done. Trying to take that from where people are today on Qube, in cloud, on multiple clouds, give them just a little bit more consolidation. And I think it's a trick people or convince people by showing them how much easier it could be. Yeah, what's interesting around what you guys have done at Red Hat is that you guys have real customers that are demanding and you have enterprise customers. So you have, you're on the front edge of the bleeding edge making things easier. And I think this good enough is a good angle but let's face it, people are just lifting and shifting to the cloud now. They haven't yet refactored. And refactoring is a concept of taking what you're doing in the cloud and taking advantage of new services to change the operating dynamic and value proposition of say the application. So the smart money is all going there. You're seeing the funding come into applications that are leveraging the new platform, replatforming and then refactoring. What's your take on that?  There are so many more types of applications today. And it's interesting because almost all of them, start with real practical problems that enterprises or growing tech companies or companies that aren't tech companies but have a very strong tech component, right? That's the biggest transformation in the last 15 years is that you can be a tech company without ever calling yourself a tech company because you have a website and you have an app and your entire business model flows like that. So there is, I think pragmatically people are, they're okay with their footprint where it is. They're looking to consolidate. They're very interested in taking advantage of the scale that modern cloud offers them. And they're trying to figure out how to bring all the advantages that they have in these modern technologies to these new footprints and these new form factors that they're trying to fit into whether that's an application running on the edge next to their load balancer in a gateway in Telco. 5G is happening right now. Red Hat's been really heavily involved in the Telco ecosystem. And it's Kubernetes through and through. It's building on those kinds of principles. What are the concepts that help make a hybrid application, an application that spans the data flowing from a device back to the cloud, out to a gateway, processed by a big data system in a private region, someplace where compute is cheap? Can't be a silo. No, absolutely not. It has to be distributed non-siloed based model. And how do we do that and keep security? How do we help you track where your data is and who's talking to whom? There's a lot of people here today who are helping people connect. I think that next step, that connectivity, the knowing who's talking and how they're connecting, that'll be a fundamental part of what emerges as the next door. I think the observability to me is the data. It's really about a data funding, a new data sector, the market that's going to be addressable. Having data addressability is critical. Clayton, I really appreciate you coming on and giving your perspective and expert in the field. I got to ask you, I got to say from a personal standpoint, how open source has truly been a real enabler. You look at how fast new things could come in and be adopted and vetted and things get kicked around. People try stuff that fails, but they build on each other, right? So AI, for example, is just a great example of look at what machine learning and AI is going on. How fast has been adopted? Absolutely. I think that would have been done on open source. I have to ask you guys at Red Hat, as you continue your mission and with IBM with that partnership, how do you see people participating with you guys? Obviously you're here, you're part of the ecosystem, big player, how are you guys continuing to work with the community? Take a minute to share what you're working on. So first off, it's impossible to get anything done, I think in this ecosystem without being open first. And that's something that Red Hat and IBM are both committed to. A lot of what I try to do is I try to map from the very complex problems that people bring to us, because every problem in applications is complex at some layer. And you've got to have the expertise, but there's so much expertise, so you've got to be able to blend the experts in a particular technology, the experts in a particular problem domain, like the folks who consult or contract or help design some of these architectures or have that experience at large companies and then move on to advise others in how to proceed. And then you have to be able to take those lessons, put them in technology and the technology has to go back and take that feedback. I would say my primary goal is to come to these sorts of events and to share what everyone is facing, because if we as a group aren't all working at some level, there won't be the ability of those organizations to react, because none of us know the whole stack. None of us know the whole set of details. And the stack's changing too. I mean, you got, again, I've referenced OSI miles more of an eighties metaphor, but that changed the game on proprietary and that was the beginning. It allows us to think and to separate. You want to have nice thin layers that the world on top doesn't worry about below, except when you need to and below you can make things more efficient and public cloud, open source, Kubernetes and the proliferation of applications on top, that's happening today. I mean, Paul Moritz used to talk about the hard and top when he was the VMware CEO back in 2010. I remember him saying that. He essentially predicted the whole, we call it the mainframe in the cloud at the time because it was a funny thing to say, but it was really a computer. I mean, essentially distributed nature of the cloud. It happened. Absolutely. Clayton, thanks for coming on theCUBE and sharing your insights. Appreciate it. It was a pleasure, thank you. All right, Clayton's here on theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, here live in LA for KubeCon, CloudNativeCon in person. It's a hybrid event, we're streaming, also going to the CUBE platform as well. Check us out there, all the interviews. Three days of coverage, we'll be right back.


You know, everyone asks me what is the healthiest or the cleanest diet? Now in this video I want to share the three or four principles that we can basically all agree upon. Number one, according to Jack Valain, if it tastes good, spit it out. Number two, if it didn't come out of the earth, don't eat it. Number three, eat moderately. Number four, eat more plants. Voila, how to eat clean in 60 seconds.


What he represents is patriarchy. We're here to do work as men, as patriars. There's nothing more natural than being a father. Welcome back to day three of the 21 convention Special Patriarch Edition 2019 of Orlando, Florida. Our first presentation of this day, day three, is actually a special presentation by two speakers. It's going to be Elliot Hulse and his father. I had the very fortunate experience, very lucky to go to Elliot's 40th birthday party a few weeks ago in St. Pete, Florida. I got to meet his dad right away. I was like, this has got to be Elliot's dad. Of course it was. The guy was awesome. I think I told him right away that his son was speaking at my conference in a few weeks on fatherhood. He suggested very quickly that he should give a speech and I was like, yeah, that sounds pretty good. I didn't know if he was serious or not, but as it turned out he was. I talked with Elliot about it. We set it up and you guys are about to see that interview between Elliot and his father go down. I'm very excited for it. And first up, you're going to have Elliot and his father. So without further ado, I'm going to welcome Elliot Hulse back to the stage. Thanks, Elliot. There you go. Morning, gentlemen. Good morning. So one of the first questions that a man is met with is who is your father? At least we see this in many traditions. Who is your father? That's why we get our father's last name. Because there's something of the pattern of the man from which you come in that name. Who is your father? And so I am very blessed to have a very strong father, a father whose name I can be proud of. And a father who has a very unique background. He wasn't raised in the same kind of culture that we were. My father is from the jungle, if you will. My father's from Belize. And he literally grew up without wearing shoes, climbing trees, swinging from branches, riding horses bareback. He grew up wild, he will tell you. And it is from that wild man's seed and character that you see me. He came to America when he was maybe the same age as you guys, as young men. And married another Belizean woman. And raised us in our culture for what you take of it. But with many of the jungle, law of the jungle attitudes and behaviors and stances and admonitions. So I have a unique upbringing in that it was in America, but with a very primal veneer. And so he's got a lot of unique ideas, a lot of unique experiences, very different than many of my friends' fathers. And so I thought it would be amazing for us here on this Sunday morning to gather some wisdom, old school wisdom, alpha male from the jungle wisdom that my father has to offer. And so without further ado, I would like to introduce to you my father, Edmund Hulse. Hi, guys. Good morning. The ad by the two. You can have a seat, right? Over there. So this is my father and you see he's sitting up on his high horse behind you there too. Yeah. Which is perfect because he loves to do. That's not normal face. Yeah. One of the things that I came to recognize very recently about my father, especially as I've become involved with you guys in the Manisphere, is that he is the alpha male that we're always talking about. I didn't know that. I didn't realize that when I was a kid growing up. In fact, I kind of resented him because I grew up in a world where they turned the children against the father and the parents. This is what the media and the schools does. My father was very strong. And as a result, I wanted to fight back. And it wasn't until I was much older had my own children that I began to realize that my father had it right the entire time. And that it was great. And it is great to come from a strong home with a strong alpha male leader. So I'm going to ask some questions here. Very basic questions because my dad's answers usually aren't basic. So it's a great way to get the ball rolling here. And so my very first question for you, Dad, is if you can offer to the guys what or why you think family is important. Family is important because it's strength. It's power. So without a strong family, you're nothing. So to become a strong family, you got to have a lot of love, too. And respect for your kids, your spouse. So that's very important to have. If you don't have respect for yourself and love for yourself, your family becomes weak. So that's the first thing that I think is very important to have a real strong family, a good family. And it's important to have a family that can support you in whatever you do and respect you. So that's one of the main things to have a strong family. To have strong kids. So if you have a weak family, you'll have weak kids.  So that's basically how I feel about having a good family. Do you think it's important for people to have families? This is important to have a family. You got to have a family because what's life with all the family? What are you living for? What are you existing for? But not just to have a family because you want to have a family. It's the reason to have a family. The reason to have a family is to make the world a better place. We are the world. So there's so many things in my mind that I want to say here. But I know I have limited time because I could go on forever as far as family is concerned. So how is the world a better place when we have strong families? How could you respect each other?  That's the only way you're going to have a good family is with love. Because love is powerful. Without love you have nothing. So family needs love. And what do you mean by love? Love means that you'll do anything for your family.  Would you all die for your family? Who would die for their family in here? Good. So if you don't have love, how would you die for someone? It's the love that gives you the strength to do whatever you want to do. So I'm trying to find words for you guys here because it's a lot involved when it comes to a strong family. The way I look at it is this. First you've got to start with you. You've got to look at yourself and respect yourself. But you respect yourself, your kid will respect you. You've got to give your kids like energy, strong energy.  It's not material stuff that makes you strong. It's the love that makes you strong and respect for each other. Everyone. We're talking about family right now, but I'm talking people around you. We're all family. So if we don't respect each other, how can we do good for each other? That's the main thing. It's mainly love. And so we're calling this Patriarch Mass this morning. And so it's a reference to the Father above also. And so what do you think, what role does the Almighty play in family? The Almighty controls everything. The Almighty controls everything in this world and controls you. You have no control of nothing in this life. I never think of myself controlling my life. I never control my life. The way I am is from the Almighty, see? And if you could just live your life by doing the right thing for your family with the right intention, it doesn't matter what you do. Just do it from the heart.  The main thing is what you feel in you. And if it's good or bad, as far as someone else, it doesn't matter. It's what you feel that matters. If you feel goodness, that's what it is. That's how I look at it. What does it mean to be a good Father? Good Father means be there for your kids a hundred percent.  The bottom line, we're a mirror for our kids. So whatever we do, our kids will do. You got to work hard as far as a father is, because your kids got to see you work. So we got to work to build a strong family. You can't be lazy. You get up every day and you do something, anything, for the right reason. That's going to benefit you and your family. That's been a good Father, to be there all the time for your kids. Like some people, you have a job, you work, you go home. You don't go home. Some people go hang out with their friends or associates, and they have their family at home. You got to be there for your family all the time. Watch them grow. Watch them make mistakes. Keep them in line. Teach them respect. Discipline. They have a lot.  You know? So that's basically the whole thing. Being a good Father is be there all the time for your kids. You know? That's what I do for you guys. What are some of the biggest mistakes that you see other Fathers making with their families? Mistakes that I see with the Father and the Father does is that they're not there for a kid. They don't discipline their kids. You got to have rules. We all got to have rules. If we don't discipline our kids and teach them respect for their family, which is the siblings, you know, mother, father, and brothers and sisters, if they don't respect their home, they will not respect anybody. So we did discipline them so we don't have to have the government discipline them. And if we don't discipline our kids, the government will discipline the kids. Anybody in here wants the government to discipline their kids? I don't think so. So if you discipline your kids for them to respect others, they'll have a better life. You know? That means a lot. I know in your part, in my kids' part, I'm not talking about my fun. I got to talk about my fun because that's all I know. And I do whatever I have to do to make my kids smart, strong mentally and physically.  And the only way you're going to do that is by you showing them and they're giving you respect. You know? A lot of parents, the kids, don't respect them. How can you have kids talking to their parents like they talk to one of their friends? That's not good. How's this kid going to grow up to be? Respect no one. They get themselves in a lot of trouble. You know? So that's basically how I feel. You know? Respect have a lot to do with it. You know? What about the relationship between the mother and the father? And how important is that in the family? That's a very important relationship because kids, we are a mirror for kids. And if our kids see us disrespecting my wife or my wife disrespecting me, that's not good. Then the kids are going to start disrespecting the mother. So it's very important to have respect for your spouse. Whoever it is, you know, if you're married or not, some people, they're not married. So I'll say, you know, partner, you know? So that's very important. How does one find a good wife? And what does that mean to be a good wife? A good wife is very difficult. It's a chance in life. But to find a good wife is, again, everything is taught with respect and love. And we all have issues and faults. We're not perfect. And it's mainly understanding. So from the outbreak of a relationship, we've got to come clean with each other. You've got to say, well, look, this is who I am. I'm not someone else. This is Edmund. Accept me who I am and who you are. I've got to accept you for who you are. I've got to make adjustment with your fault because we all have faults. We're not perfect.  You can't do that. You've got to respect each one's fault and make your adjustment. And then it becomes natural after a while. You don't even see the faults no more because we accept each other's. And then after that, it becomes love. You just start loving each other's because I love you for who you are. Not for someone else, a fantasy.  Maybe I talk in my sleep at night. Some people, they can't deal with stuff like that. They don't want to make that adjustment. That's why some relationships, some people sleep in different beds. I don't want to sleep in different beds than my wife. So we have to make a lot of adjustments if you want to have a good relationship. What are you looking for? Sex? Is that a relationship? You know? Were you looking for a perfect woman? There's no such thing as perfect. So let's make adjustment to each other's. It's just at your workplace. If you're working at a place, you've got to make adjustments. So it's all about adjustment. And that's the only way you're going to have a good relationship and a good wife. Or a good partner. Make adjustment. And then everything just becomes normal. I'm not forcing you to love me. You can't force anything in this life. There's no such thing as me making you love me. Because I buy you a beautiful outfit, or I buy you the best car on earth, or whatever. That's buying you stuff. You're going to love me and respect me. We respect each other's and make adjustment in our life. And, you know, respect comes after. As life goes on. That's how I look at it. It works for me. I don't... Look, everybody got to try to make people love them. I don't try to make anybody love me. You love me for who I am. And that's the way it's got to be. If you force it, it's not going to work. So I think that's about the best way you can have a relationship. Just leave it alone. Let it grow. Because it's change. As we get older, we change. We're not the same person anymore. We could change for better or worse, but it's always better. What are some of the biggest mistakes you see men making when they choose a woman? That's another thing. They're looking for perfect women. They're looking for beauty with their eyes. This woman has to be a certain look, but it's not the look. It's inside. It's what you have inside matters. It's not how you look. You got to love yourself no matter what. You look in the mirror. You look at yourself, and I love you. I love me.  And men and women, they want to find this guy, tall guy, good looking guy, have a lot of money. That's what people are looking for. Instead of looking from inside, the heart of the man, the heart of the woman, that's what you got to look for. The goodness. I want somebody that's going to care for me. My wife's going to look out for me, cook me good meal, make sure I'm okay, make sure everything is beautiful with me. I want someone that's going to do that. I want somebody that's going to look out for themselves and don't care about me, I don't care about what I can give them. And that's the problem. It's all you got to look from the inside. The goodness of a person's heart. I don't need a beautiful woman and got a bad heart and don't care about me or my family, my kids. I don't want that. I want someone to have beautiful from the inside and the inside shows the outside. That's the whole thing when it comes to, you know, woman or anything, any kind of relationship. People just looking for the wrong reason, you know. Things, what they see. I don't look for that. I look for you as a person. What you have inside of you matters to me. It's not what you look. It's to me you're beautiful no matter what. It's to me anyway. I don't understand what beauty means.  Your hair is beautiful. Your body is beautiful. What is it? It's just what you see. It's what you feel. What are some of the indicators of a woman with a good heart? What lets you know that she's a good woman? What? A good woman is going to... It's very easy. Well, how you're doing. Make sure you have a good meal. Make sure your clothes are taken care of. Make sure your kids are taken care of. You know, respect you. That's a good person, you know. That's somebody that's worrying how they look or what they want. It's looking to see what my husband needs or wants. Well, it mainly needs. My husband needs to be nurtured. And in return you're going to do the same thing. You know, say, action, reaction. You do good for me, I do it for you. If you do bad for me, why would I want to do good for you? You know what I'm saying? And to me, that's a lot of mistake that people make.  Well, you don't need a useless woman.  Doesn't want to do anything. You just want to sit around and look pretty or whatever it is. And let's put it this way. I'm not just talking about woman. I'm talking man. A woman needs a strong man. And a man needs a strong woman. And we work together as a team. We're partners. If I'm doing all the work and you don't want to work, then I don't need you. And vice versa. If my wife comes home and does everything, take care of my kids, take care of my home, do everything nice to me.  I just want to lay around all day and drink beers and watch TV. She don't need me.  You know what I'm saying? So it's the same thing. If I have a woman, I come home.  The pumpers are not changed. They're smelly all over the place. The place is a mess. What she does all day at home? Worried about herself.  Of course she walks in the door. She's beautiful. Hair all down. Nails all down. Pretty. But what's all this stuff? What's more important to me than the way you look right now? Men, they worry about their fancy cars and stuff. They don't care about the family, right? That she needs you? No. So it's a two-way street, guys. You just work together. That's all we gotta do here. You gotta find a woman who's gonna work with you and if she doesn't work with you, then you don't need her. And you gotta look at the same way. You gotta do right for your woman. And in return you're gonna get right, right just about. Like I say, if she doesn't work, then it just doesn't work. You gotta get rid of it. What's most important in raising children? Well, important in raising children. There's a lot of stuff that's important. Discipline is one, for sure. Responsibility, you gotta give your kids responsibility.  So whatever you do, your kids will do. If you get up every day, work hard. Your kid will see you, a hard-working man. You take care of your family. You come home, help over the kids with their homework. You gotta be there for your kids every day. That's very important, you know? A family is work. And unless you're willing to work to keep a family together, then you don't need to have a family. If you're lazy and selfish, then don't have a family. It's not for you. You gotta be willing to get up every day and work. Work out the house, work in the house. There's unlimited work when you have a family.  I have a family right now and I still work for my family. Because now I have grandkids, you know? I want my grandkids to be strong. I want them to see their parents are strong, their grandparents are strong. So those kids, the next generation, will be even stronger. So it's very important for you guys to get up every day, work towards your family and relationship. And your kids will see that.  Discipline is a big deal. Responsibility, respect, it means a lot, you know? This man respect me right now and always respect me. All my kids respect me. Because I show them respect and I show them what it takes to be strong. You can't be weak to your kids. You gotta have tough love. Everybody wants their kid to be happy.  I want my kid to be happy. But you can't be happy all the time. And you're not gonna be happy because you gotta follow my rules. So I'm gonna make you very uncomfortable if you don't follow my rules. Because you're already making me uncomfortable, because you're not following my rules. And respect. So if you don't do that for your kids, what do you think is gonna happen? They're not gonna be strong. You know, people, their kids start crying and acting up right away to become weak. So here, kids start crying, it's happy. No. I say you're not gonna have that? Tough love. Tough love, daughters. That's very important. It hurts my heart. It's painful to see your kids suffer. So right away you wanna become weak. No, you gotta stay strong. So that kid will become strong. My dad was strong. He didn't give in on me. I didn't weaken him. So in return, that's what he's gonna do. So that's important. Very important. I remember when I was a kid, you used to say, I'm just gonna be the bad guy. I'm the bad guy.  I don't care. Which, he hates me. I know he hates me. I know my kid doesn't like me. I don't care.    And if you don't, it's consequence. I don't want you to love me. I don't care about love right now. From you, because I have the love for you. I'm doing this because I love you. The right intention. Whatever you do for your family, you're good with the right intention. That's what it's all about.  I do it because I love you. I'm trying to make a strong man out of you, a strong woman. It's not only a strong man. If you have daughters, you gotta make them strong. I have a daughter. And she's strong. I make a strong family. I want a strong family. Why would I want a weak family? But if I don't show my strength to my family, how are they gonna be strong? I gotta let them know that I am the king of my house.  I control my home. Not you. And that's how you have to let your kid understand. So they will become a king. And in return, if you have a weak woman, she will become strong. You're gonna make them strong. And you want a strong woman, right? So it's all you. Start from you, man. Okay? So just be tough. Love to your kids. I'm not telling you to go abuse your kids then, but you gotta be there for your kids. 100%. 100% focus for your family. That's what I do. I get mad when people don't take care of their family. I have the respect for anyone that doesn't take care of their family.  That breaks my heart. Because you know what?  And then you're gonna blame the kid. People blame everybody for everything. They never blame themselves. He's a bad kid. There's no such thing as a bad kid, okay? No bad kid. You made them bad. Because you're not there for them. Kids will do things that are not right, or maybe you call it not right. They'll make mistakes. They're little kids.  But you are the adult.  So you have to guide them. They go one way, and you know it's not right. You put yourself, put them back on track. Whatever it takes. Don't ignore it. So, hey boy, I tell you what I know. Family, kids. That's a big deal. It's not a game. It's not just having kids. Because, oh, it's funny. Nah. So that's tough. You know? It's not tough. So if anyone have kids in here, I mean, there's a lot of broken homes. I understand that. And because it's broken homes, it's a lot of excuse. You know? And that's not a problem because you have a kid and you have a broken home.  It's my partner's fault. He's raising the kid. She's raising the kid or whatever it is. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.  It's you. Because even though you and your partner is not together, that doesn't mean you can't be a good father. You know what I'm saying? You can still make a man out of him. Because you could be there for him. The same way you think or know when you were together with your partner, living together with your family, you can be the same way not being together with your spouse and with your kid.  Spend time with that kid. Don't just hear. The government say, $200 a week for my kid and then you're okay.  Nah, nah, nah, nah. You can be there every day. Pick your kid up from school.  Don't go have another kid. Some play for somebody else. It doesn't work out to go have another kid. Then you have these kids all the players. They lost track of your goddamn kids. Who's taking care of those kids? There's a lot of deals. There's a lot of things that's happening right now that's not good. And there's no one to be blamed. But you. So you have to think about that. So I'm sure there's people in here that have a family together. I don't know, and this family is broken. But still be there for your kid. Don't say, oh, I can't pick up Johnny today because I gotta go someplace. I gotta go hang out with my friends. So Johnny's waiting for you. He's gonna pick up. How that kid feels? He's not gonna be a strong kid.  Respect yourself. So when your kids see my dad, they say, whoa, that's my dad. You know what I'm saying? I want to be proud of my dad. I want to go to school, pick my kid up, and my kids say, well, all our friends. Oh, that's Johnny's dad. Guy looks respectable. He don't walk in there looking bad. No respect for himself.  He don't have to be that way. I'm not judging anybody. But if you work, you'll be okay.  If you gotta have two jobs, three jobs, I don't care. You make a choice to have your family. You gotta do what it takes to make that family righteous.  You know? Jacked up teeth, raggedy clothes. But this is Johnny's dad. Everybody look at this Johnny's dad. You think Johnny feels good about himself? You know that's my dad? That kid is embarrassed. Make yourself respectable. Keep your head up strong. So this kid said, well, I'm pro, that's my dad. Not some dirt bag. You don't have to make yourself that way. Nobody have to make themselves that way. Don't blame no one else but yourself.  You know? That's how I feel. That anybody else, anyone in here that can't make themselves respected for their family? That you love? If you love your family, you respect yourself first. Do you respect yourself, sir? Good. So do you want your kid to respect you? You're not going to go to a kid's school looking like a bomb? Right? That'll make your kid sad. So we can all do that, man.  You have all these glitters. Things. Material stuff.   I don't like it. It makes me wanna cry. I'm sad. It's just sad. Why people gotta be that way? Can't you be happy with yourself? You know, there's things to be happy.  You understand me? Well, that's my problem. Boy, it's my problem because I love kids. They're innocent.   Huh?  You love me.   If you look at it, take care of your goddamn kids.  Do you understand me? That's my problem. Don't tell me you love me, all right? Take care of your family first. No excuse. So, hey, guys, that's where I come from, man.  You people say you do the same thing, right? Well, then just do it. Just do it, my friend. It's a beautiful thing. Family's beautiful. I got four strong mentally and physically kids. And I got eight grandkids.    All right? So, you all have to feel the same way. Love. Powerful. Love is strong. So, if you love your kids, you'll do anything. Don't blame anyone.  That's how I feel. I didn't want to roll myself up. I started the slow way. But I got to do it. Because it's me.   Life is simple. We make it difficult.  That's the problem. And the bottom line, that means nothing. Family is what you need. Love.   That's what I'm talking about.  So, guys, I know you guys can do it, man.  Big reward, man. Bottom line.  With everything. Relationship is work. That's what I do.  And I work until I die.   Because that's what makes you strong. Love.   Why? You don't have to be that way. You don't have to be that way, guys. It takes a lot of work. But, man, it's so beautiful. I have my grandkids coming over. Every Saturdays, I watch them run around.  I don't care. Don't touch that. Don't break that.  They do whatever they want. They're happy. But, again, people worry about things. I don't care about things. I care about family. Yeah, that's big, man. Yeah. Don't pay me too much mind, guys, because I could get off the wall.  So, man, what do you want to know? Does anybody have any question for my crazy father? Whatever you want to know. He's like, yo, Edmund.  What do you do when you feel the way you feel and the family you came from is completely the opposite? Opposite? They don't take care of each other.  Well, family, you talking brothers and sisters? My parents. Right now, you got family on? I was married. Well, you're planning to have family, right? I'd like to. See, the way it is, right? I got seven brothers and three sisters. I'm a big family. So, anyone, I can't even control myself sometimes. The Almighty controls me. So, I can't put my energy into my brothers and sisters.  But I can't put my energy in them. Because that's not my responsibility. I didn't create that. But I created him. He's my responsibility. I'm like, so he's righteous. I can't make sure my brother and my sister's righteous. Let it be, brother. Leave them alone. If you can't deal with them, walk away. Because if they're not doing righteous, that's negative. Negative. I don't want negative. I don't deal with negative. Positive. Just be where it is positive.   You want to be wrong people that's smart, intelligent. So, one day you become intelligent, right?  I might have to say the word, but I gotta say it. Because it's true, right? What do you call it then? Don't want to do something? I don't know a nice word, Buddha. You have a nice word?    You know what I'm saying? That's the only way I can put it. So, I don't want to be wrong those people. I stay away from those people. So, because I want to be stronger and make my family stronger. So, any question? Any other question? I'm just trying to see if anybody puts their hands up and I'll pass them a mic. Wow. I think we should bring it full circle, my man. Yeah? Well, you know, there's a lot more guys about life, a lot more about life.  Raising families is one of it. I got a lot of stories about him. I got a story about my son in the back there. I got stories, man. I got stories forever. Good stories, though. Positive stories. Yeah, I'm saying.  Close down, brother. You know, I think it would be interesting. I mean, we still have seven minutes. Oh, okay. Maybe talk a little bit about your childhood growing up in Belize and what was that like and how that shaped your way. My life free. I like to be free.  I want to do what I want to do, how I want to do. I don't like to be controlled.  You like to be controlled?  I don't want anybody to control me. I get up in the morning and you want to do something. I want to do it. And was that what it was like when you were a kid? When I was a kid, that's what I do. You know? That's the first way.  I didn't have a dad. My dad loved me. I know my dad loved me. But he was never wrong because he was always out working to provide. I might have seven kids, seven boys and three girls.  She can't handle us. Who's going to handle her? A crazy guy like me? Nah. So I always do what I want to do, how I want to do. I'm learning my own.  I got to figure my life out. That's how I was brought up.  You got to figure your life out. You don't need anybody to tell you what... I mean, it's good to have structures just like I have structures for my kids. It's nice. But mainly you have to figure things out for yourself. But it's good to have a guy. Well, I didn't have that. I didn't go to school when I was a kid. You know. I go to school when I feel like. I don't like school anyway. Boring. I don't want to go dead.  What do I need that for? I want to go out and do things.  Run around.  Do anything. Nice stuff. Hoppy stuff. When I'm hungry, I eat what I want. I'm hungry today. I see fruit or whatever it is. That's the kind of life I have. It's good life. I like it. I came here with so many bullshit that took me a while to figure out things. But again, I figured it out. It was a different kind of jungle. You know. Billions all look the same to me. It's a lot of different things. Guys. That's the kind of life I have. But I have no complaints.  I could say, I didn't have this.  You know what I'm saying?  You know. I go to sleep at night.  Just buzzing in my ear.  Mentally. Meditation. Bunk my mind.  No mosquitoes are biting me. I ain't hot. You make adjustments. Huh? You want to live like that? Nobody wants to live like that. But that's... It's good. I mean, you know. I get used to it. And it made me stronger. Because now, I don't lay right down in sleep. I can sleep right there. It's all in the mind. Control the mind. Mind, you sit right there.  You exist. That takes practice. But if you practice it, one day you'll be able to do it. It's a good thing. Try to practice that.  That's a good practice, guys. That's the reason why I don't let anything bothers me. Another thing you guys got to remember, one thing here in this life right here.  There's nothing to worry about in this life. Nothing. Because you have no control of nothing.  Everybody, I control. I'm smart because I drive in Mercedes. I'm smart because I got a big house. You ain't no smarter than me. You are smart. And I am smart too. We're all smart in our own way. So you're not better than me and I'm not better than you. Not because you have more things you think you're smarter than me.  Who are you going to be smarter than me? Right? So that's how I look at it. So we've got one minute. And I was hoping maybe for that last minute you could share what your hope is for all the fathers in this room and maybe all the fathers in the world. What do you hope to see and wish for us all? Well, I hope that every father and everyone to build a strong family. All you have is your family, my friend. You don't have friends.  The States, coworkers, parents, whatever you want to call them, your family is your friend, man. Your family will be there for you. You know what I'm saying? You do the right thing for your family, they'll be there for you.  But if I do need my family to clean my ass, I know they will. And that's a good feeling. But if you don't do the right thing for your family, believe me, you'll pay. You could pay today, you could pay tomorrow, but the bottom line, you will pay. I have my daughter that's a hospice nurse because every one of my kids are very successful because I'm pursuit. She's a hospice nurse. She told me stories about guys or family that never do anything for their family. She can tell. And the people that do good for their family, she can tell. On their dying bed, family is there with love because all I know is love from their family. And the ones that didn't give their love just don't have no love. So that's, do you want that happen to you? Would you like that happen to you? Have no love on your dying bed? No, nobody wants that. But if you don't give the love now to your family, that's what's going to happen to you and you and every one of us. Thank you, Dad. Lafram, guys. Edmund Hall. Yeah. Make it happen, make it happen. You guys are beautiful. What he represents is patriarchy. We're here to do work as men, as patriars. There's nothing more natural than being a father.