Great to have you all back for another episode of think-tank-for-wise human-humane architecture. Me, your host Martin Despang, is broadcasting life from the city of Worksburg, which is the most northern part of the most southern state here in Germany of Bavaria. It's about 10 p.m. here. You can hear the bell tower ringing over there. It should be done soon. So last show we concluded saying we're either going to do our European Hawaiian Madeira again, or are we going to do another of our automobile architecture episodes? And the ones discussing that within doing these are the Soto Baun, Bishop Museums, Historian, and Archivist, who got called by the museum and therefore can't be with us today. And our other third one from the filling station architect Ronald Lindgren is still dealing with his flooding, his internal flooding in his Keelingsworth-inspired house, who was his business partner and friend. So I'm on my own today, but I talked to this with them before, so I will also squeeze in things on behalf of them. So we're going to start out not with either or, but as well as in the first slide up, please, is going to be cars. So we're back on Madeira, although the top row there is actually from Spain. I just got back from our cross-cultural culinary connoisseurs, Joey and Clara, who has moved to Barcelona in Spain, Catalonia to be specific as the Catalonians like to hear it. And so the top one here is a car that's very common in Madeira, but we forgot to snap a really good one. So I made up for that and got this one here is the Renault Catre, which means four, number four. And that's a car that's very much sort of like the sibling, the brother or sister of the Citroen de Chavaux that we've been talking about a lot in the past in the automobile show. Lenny, my son, is coming to visit me with his Citroen DS3 on Monday. I'm looking forward to that. And the DS3 is our investigating mobile when I'm back in my Hanover hometown and where we checked out a 70s courtyard house and we saw one of these very rare Renault fours, which you hardly ever see in Germany anymore. But they're around quite a lot, not too much, but still you see them. The one at the very top right is looking at Renault four as a brother because their front grille looks very similar. This is a new car. This is the Honda E prototype that Honda launched back in Japan and in Europe. It's a fully electric car and they say it's inspired by actually the first Honda Civic. However, that front grille looked a little different, had sort of this meandering kind of notching there. So I thought when I saw it, hey, this reminds me of the Renault four a lot. So the four bottom cars are actually from Malta. And there are some new cars out there as our Renault Megane that you see us at the filling station there at the middle right. But the car next to it in front of it is a very legendary car that's a Lancia designed by the legendary and most versatile and most inclusive as I like to add. And I forget to say that so I can say it now. Relative to Ron, what Ron told us that Ed was really one of his favorite project was basically for Latin American working class people and to give them housing and decency and dignity, which he wasn't able to accomplish, unfortunately, because they were very successful in resort design and rightly so. Jujara kind of reminds me of Jujara because Jujara did what impressed you, Ron, basically a lot, basically he designed many things, many hot cars as for example the the M1 BMW and the DeLorean from back to the future. But he did very simple cars as this sort of your first golf and the Fiat Panda. And he's designed this one here. Rally fans are very fond of this one because it's a very legendary car that also drove in rallies. This is our 200 happens to be our 250th show and 205 is also the name of the model of the Peugeot, which is the one to the left in the middle at the left row. This is a car that's been very popular and there are few around here in Germany, but Portugal doesn't have an own car brand. But it's a place for car manufacturing for other car manufacturers quite a bit. So, you know, this is the Mediterranean area. So like the fellow Mediterranean car manufacturers of the French are around quite a bit. But also the bottom row that is to the very bottom left is the Mercedes 190. The nickname is the baby bends because it was the smallest Mercedes that they did at that time. And they still it's not a C class. That's one that's a very legendary car. They were built to last and they're still around even in Germany. Joey was once looking into one back then. And they're they're in pretty good shape over there. It's an island again. There's a lot of sea salt. But they're around. They take care of their cars. And the one at the very bottom right this little and I talked a lot because I said, you're probably not familiar with that one. He said, no, no, no, I know them very well. This is a Ford Capri and talking islands. This is obviously named after an Italian island. And this has been manufactured by the German branch of the Ford American motor company, and then sort of got exported or from the point of view of Americans get imported. So, so it's been it's been known over there too. So, again, why are we talking about cars? What's the relationship of cars and architecture? Here again, it's like it's not that there aren't any at all fancy cars.  But there's a lot of small cars for the future. There's an oddity we read. We're still puzzled about it as a projection that there might not be small cars in the future anymore. Because due to higher emission standards, the profit margin basically supposedly, you know, is smaller in smaller cars. And it's a larger effort to bump it up to the energy efficiency standards. So they're saying that way the small cars might not be profitable anymore. So the car manufacturers might stop doing them. We hope this is not true because it's sort of an irony, right?  And to say a tiny house is not, you know, cost efficiently to do is kind of absurd. So hopefully that that is not true. And again, you see the Honda e prototype up there that obviously tries to make that work. So let's go to the next slide. Because talking old cars in Madeira is being part of Portugal, here we see an old house in Madeira. Madeira is politically part of Portugal. Portugal has been in an has been an authoritarian dictatorship or, you know, until the mid 70s. And only 10 years later, a decade later, it became part of the European Union. And even then it took them a while to basically, you know, get funding and support from the other European countries. So you still see, like you see old cars, you see old houses there. And that's a good thing. And the European Union is, by the way, the President Ozilá Fondar Láin has just announced a few days ago that she sets the goal of 2035, when the fossil combustion engine should be off the table in the European Union. So only electric cars or other, you know, systems should be allowed. And the the very sort of polluting combustion engine should be then the past. So we will see how that works. Honda, by the way, announced along these lines, they're aiming for even a decade earlier 2025, which is which is very soon. So we we look forward to that one. And why is that important for architecture, as well as for automobiles? We've been talking that the Keschverklanker program, which came from Germany, the Aprafe, was pretty much a sales pitch by the car industry. Because until you produce a car entirely with fossil fuel, which we're far away from, it's more ecological to drive your old vehicle as long as you can. And especially if you have small cars with smaller engine, that's even more the case. And that is true for architecture as well. That's one of the other agendas that the European Union puts out. There is an increased awareness of that we should take care of the existing building stock and put that up to pace to current standards, as well as energy efficiency standards, because the carbon footprint that had been put into a building, you need to get that out of it. Or in best case, they've been built so many hundred years ago that they were basically pre fossil because they want to power tools in place. So there's here's an old house in we've been sitting in the central pedestrian street last show and had some nice dinner. This is only a few houses away from that one. You can see, when you look very close at the very top middle image, you can see the louvres and you can see something shining through it. There is no light on there.  And you see, there was an artist movement of an initiative to have everyone painted store in certain different ways and just attempts to make the buildings look prettier than there are. And again, this is still the aftermath of that totalitarian regime that they have and takes a long time. Reminds me of our east side of Germany, which is still catching up from their totalitarian regime. And there's some remote areas where buildings look like that a lot. And from the solo, I said, I reminded him and we're still finding connections. And we said we almost could have met around Elvis back in the early 90s, which was my year in college in Lincoln, Nebraska, where I did a trip up to Graceland and in Tennessee. And he did too. So we could have met there. And he found some houses in that area and some rather poor neighborhoods where they basically had kept the facades as big fronts. And basically not want to reveal that it was basically hollow and basically slum behind. So next slide. Next slide. We thought this is really very characteristic and typical for that shift of Portugal, of still the older generation. There's this gentleman there to the left, all the gentlemen bending over still with a brush and a broom, basically cleaning the streets. And then you see on the right side, a fancy restaurant where we wanted to have a drink, but the waiting line was too long. And that fancy electric, you know, I free beamer there stands for the next generation. The first city I ever got in touch with on the mainland of Portugal was Coimbra, which is in lands, it's not on the on the ocean. And you could see very well that the older generations, some of them are still living in these very sort of medieval cities with very in a very primitive way. Without many of the humanities that, you know, you run a suffering from now running water and electricity and stuff like that. And you see the new generation who have been lucky or not depending on how look at it to sort of become successful in capitalism and, you know, drive fancy cars and things like that. So you see these clashing into each other or having this sort of kind of weird coexistence as you can see on on this slide here. Our exotic escapism experts, Suzanne knows that very well, because at her tweets 16 age, when she left home and wanted to get a taste of Portugal, she lived in Porto, which is further north from Coimbra, northwest on the coast. She, you know, even lived that I just visited, but she lived in families and new families who where this was all happening. So speaking of Suzanne next slide. This is on our honeymoon hopping here. We, you know, had had some good time. And I quizzed the soda and I said, you know, where's that. And he said, well, that certainly looks like, you know, you had a good time in a nice resort. And it truly looks like that. But in fact, the point we want to make about this one here, this is public. This is public space. This is in some small town on the coast. There's a restaurant, but the pools down there are public pools. In fact, local people were just repainting the pool. And, you know, to me, the paint didn't look dry yet, but they already, you know, filled it up with water again. And the kids were going there and having fun. So that's something that we said we would like to see, you know, in Honolulu more, or in Hawaii more, reminds us of Laurence Halpern's great Califountain in Portland, where our trumpet here, number one, David Rockwood is from, right? Public space is for the little people. We're not talking resorts. We're not talking egalitarian, you know, circles. We're talking egalitarian circles for all the people. And that's basically happening here. So that's something we want to throw out for consideration for us, for us back in Hawaii. Next slide is talking architecture.  It's summer right now, but it's going to be winter at some point sooner than any wish here, and you need walls. In Hawaii and in Madeira, in Europe, to Hawaii, we basically need roof architecture. And this is one of the best pieces of architecture that crossed my path here, which is just a tent. And that reminds us of our guest, Larry Medland, who's been doing many shows, who's been doing just that with his collaborator and partner in crime, Friado. And he has been doing, you know, tents that were just like the one here in Madeira that were opaque.  They let the light through, but they keep the sun out. That's what you want. While in Germany, back at the very top left is our wilderness wedding, where we got these transparent umbrellas to, you know, protect us from that. At that time, really, really chilly rain. And I went back with this umbrella to Friado's 72 Munich Olympics, which reminds me a lot of the acrylic plates. He basically used to cover it up because, again, there isn't so much the need here to shade it because there's only a few months where we have the sun being so intense. But, you know, in wintertime, the sun is more than welcome. And it can keep you warm. So let's go to the next slide. Again, doesn't this look like back in Hawaii? Very much so. So we said the geology and the scenery, you know, the landscape is very much the same. This is high up in the mountains. And you see these sort of paths there. It looks like roads, but they're actually water lines and they're called levadas. And something is really the same. There is actually a windward side and a leeward side. And the windward side is the wet side as well, where there's a lot of rain. And the other side, the southern part is just like our southern part in Waikiki. You know, I sometimes, you know, don't have any rain for weeks or for months. And that's the same here. They were basically then building some pretty massive infrastructure of these sort of water ways that they were like cutting through the jungle. And they have these, you know, they have these little rivers that basically help to bring the water that's necessary for life, both for farming, for irrigation and for drinking. And they basically bring this through that drier southern side. The very top images are a choke vault from top left is the river of Isar that runs through Munich. Talking water and flooding, you probably are wondering if we got hit by some of the terrible floodings with many hundreds being killed in Germany here. You have the same in China. We're safe. But again, many people are not. And so we pray for them and wish them all the best. And, you know, more importantly and as importantly, we should do anything and everything we can do in the future. So to prevent these things, nature is getting angry. That's rightly so, because we've not been treating her as well as we should have been. So we got to stop doing that and do better. The Isar was not quite as, you know, overflowing as other rivers and so, but pretty high too. So water is, you know, it's not just indoor flooding for Ron, but it's outdoor flooding currently really, really a lot. So let's go to the next slide. Very high up in the mountains then at the top of the mountains is something that we've been referring to in a show back then about a volcanic veneer and ventilation where we pointed out the island of El Hierro, and that's part of the Canary Islands. And that's actually not that far away from Madera. It's the next kind of part of that geographical area of the Micronesia, as it's called. And it's just south of Madera. And it's a volcanic nature as well. And we've been, you know, talking about that there was this very brave engineer who over, you know, decades has been relentless to basically put the island off the grid by using hydroelectric power. And they've been building these big reservoirs up in the mountains and then let the water run down and, you know, harvest energy that way. And you can see the same thing here at the top of the mountains in Madera here where there's this big water reservoir, and then there's the la Veda coming out of it. Bottom left, you see also there's water running on the sides of the streets and in front of the houses there, which is something very scenic. It reminds me of Paris where you have constantly water running, you know, on the side of the street and the walkways, you know, makes some beautiful noise. And, you know, it's so clear and crisp that I'm pretty sure you can, you might even be able to drink that. Next slide, where does the water come from? Basically from the mountains. This is where the clouds run into the higher elevations and they weep and become rain. And you drive through this rainforest, which is the Laurel forest that we talked about last time and it's really sort of beautiful. You can't, this is a little different, right? And there's a lot of hiking in Hawaii where you can sort of hike through the high elevations, but not so much drive through that, which is probably good. But here there is actually roads. So these are the old roads before they were doing a sort of massive tunnel infrastructure they've been looking into last time.  This reminds us a lot of Oahu and Honolulu, which makes you wonder. There was an old magazine from the 60s that had a title story that was saying paradise and pearl. And that was back in the 60s and obviously things haven't really improved since then. The opposite. Next slide. So this is what happens then. This is really sad to see. This is the smell, like really eucalyptus seeds. I'm sure the one on the left might be eucalyptus tree and they're clearing the forest and you're wondering for what, and it's probably for inhabitation. And again, as we said last time, the name Madeira is basically Portuguese for wood. And so if they keep going like that, they got to rename their island or this, you know, because there might not be enough wood left for its left to basically justify that name. Next slide. Obviously as an architect, you know, I'm sort of have a conflict of interest because that's our discipline and profession. So, you know, we've been spotting, you know, these pieces of modern architecture, you know, the one at the top right and the bottom one, surely nice pieces. You know, this is nice. You know, the kind of the Honda E was sort of like a retro. You know, this is purely not retro. This is modernism that sort of self-invents itself. You see they're using a lot of the vernacular themes of courtyards and open spaces and roof architecture. They're honest in their materiality, but they're all coastal, right?  They're, you know, they're just not right there, right? They're just basically sort of a territorialization in a way and just taking away from the character of the island that should be left more natural and not be sort of getting these measles, even though these are nice ones. But again, if you do too many of these, you just ruin the character. Talking character, again, next slide. Climatically, we've been talking about the one at the bottom is a one just next door, just under construction to the one from the last slide at the bottom. We have this sort of weird obsession with saying, oh, we want to stop there and we basically want to inhabit the ruins because, I mean, that's basically what you need and you can then have your sort of more softer infill or enclosure being sort of separated. The ones at the top, you hardly see in Hawaii because the cost of, you know, land and the islands being so precious and so whenever there's lands, you know, people are going to either not build on it and mostly keep speculating until it gets more expensive and they can make a bigger buck or they build and then immediately move in or they rent it out or whatever they do. But these are sort of incomplete buildings. These are like ruins and I thought these are really kind of nice sort of mesian or purvey pavilions that I would love to have them, you know, been moved in and having, you know, suburban nomads, you know, throw up their tents in them because again, they provide already what you need, just like same in Hawaii, similarity. Most time of the year, shelter just from the sun and the rain, like you don't need any walls and they don't, they don't have that. Next slide is pretty much us looking for where we wanted to honeymoon and so we went, you know, online and shop for places and this was one that appealed to us, had very good reviews called the Sat Charom, I don't know how to pronounce that correctly. And, you know, it reminded us, these are the show quotes in the top right of the Makaha or the Ihilani back then by Ron's partner, a business partner, Larry Stricker, which is a nice project, location-wise rather remote. So this one here is also, you know, way out West, same thing. And they, you know, the consideration was just like at the Makaha apartments, did not have this being an eyesore being on top of the hill or the mountain, but basically been at the foothills of it and almost being tucked into it. So that's something, you know, honorable, we thought, kind of camouflaging the mass and you can see this is rather a lot. There's a lot of rooms in there. But we decided to not do it. It was also, you know, seemed a little bit too hip, didn't feel right for us. And, but still, you know, architecturally and from kind of the strategy of, you know, trying to nest it into the landscape.  So we decided not to stay there. And where we then decided to stay, we're going to tell you next week or next time, hopefully our two others from the filling station, the soda and Ron are going to be back. And we're going to decide if we're going to do another one of our auto architecture or if you're going to continue and then let you know at which place we stayed, which we very much want to share with you and that we can learn a lot from that back for Hawaii. So with that, thank you and see you all next week and stay, you know, try to adopt the Madarin mindset a little bit more because there's a lot to learn from. Bye-bye.


Hello, everyone, and welcome to Cloud Native Live, where we dive into the code behind Cloud Native. I'm Annie Talvasto, and I'm a CNCF ambassador, as well as I lead marketing at Vision, and I will be your host tonight. So every week we bring a new set of presenters to showcase how to work with Cloud Native technologies. And as always, they will build things, they will break things, and they will answer all of your questions. So you can join us every Wednesday or in a couple of other days, such as today and Tuesday, to watch live. And this week, we have Reza here with us to talk about troubleshooting EBBF data plane in QDBase cluster. I'm very excited for this. And as always, this is an official live stream of the CNCF and as such, it is subject to the CNCF code of conduct. So please do not add anything to the chat or questions that would be in violation of that code of conduct. So basically, please be respectful of all of your fellow participants, as well as presenters. But with that done, I'll hand it over to Reza to kick off today's presentation. Thank you, Annie. So let me find my slides somewhere here. And I can see that Andrea asks, will this EBB be recorded for later view? And I can happily say that yes, this will be recorded. And you can watch it, for example, from the CNCF YouTube page from the live streams tab. You can find all of the previous Cloud Native lives from there. So no worries. Miss something? You can always go back in the recording and check it out. All right. So now that we know this is being recorded, we can dive into the stuff. So hello, everyone. My name is Reza. I'm a developer advocate at Tigera. Tigera is the company behind open source project Calico where we do everything in terms of security, networking, and the cloud native scene. I'm always eager to learn new stuff and open to suggestions. So if you got an idea or you want to explore anything, let's connect. You can usually find me in Calico users like, I believe if you're watching this from LinkedIn, you should be able to click on my profile as well. I'm pretty easy to find. So for this presentation, I'm gonna talk a little bit about cloud networking and then give you a brief overview of Calico ABPF advantages. Then talk about troubleshooting because without talking about these fundamentals, it would be very difficult to explain why we need to build new tools to troubleshoot EVPF. Anyways. Yeah, and there was actually a quick question from the audience. Maybe you will answer this later on, but there is a question, what is EVPF actually? So EVPF stands for extended Berkeley packet filtering. However, at this point, it's not really about packet filtering. It's sort of a virtual machine that runs inside a kernel, I guess in a couple of months or years in Windows as well, that can directly execute commands or interact with the kernel. It offers a lot of performance and you can basically do a lot of the stuff that are very expensive in terms of resources with it, that are very expensive if you want to do it in other ways. So as EVPF. So Project Calico, if you like to connect with us, these are our social handles. Project Calico is all about cloud networking and security. We got a lot of Slack channel members and a lot of contributors. There are a lot of notes that are hovered by Calico every day and the beauty of Calico is it's an open source community. So you can just tick the code, change it and submit it to us and we'll include your contribution in the code base. So let's talk about cloud networking first. Now, modern applications are mostly hosted on the cloud these days. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention, if you got any questions, please ask, Annie would help with the questions and read them for me in between decisions. There is also a Q and A at the end. So depending on how the stream goes and how the demo is working out, we might have time to answer your questions in the beginning or in the middle of the stream or at the end. If I don't know the answer, which by my experience is most of the time, I'll try to find one of Calico developers and engineers who know a lot more about these sort of stuff to answer your question. That being said, the best way to get answers about Kubernetes and everything cloud native is that project Slack channel. There are a huge number of community members and engineers who are always present in these project Slack channels that are, that'd be very happy to answer all your questions. With that being said, modern applications are mostly hosted on the cloud these days. Cloud computing allows companies of all size to offer their services without investing in infrastructure and data centers. On top of that, cloud computing offers unparallel flexibility and scalability that can quickly be turned, tuned to your needs. But this magical experience is possible by utilizing the power of cloud networking. Kubernetes is one of the main contenders in running the cloud environment. On its own, Kubernetes is a modular architecture, modular orchestrator that gives you the required setup to run and scale your workloads. In this presentation, our focus is going to be networking side of the Kubernetes, but at the end, we're gonna troubleshoot how this networking is actually provided by eBPF. Now, Kubernetes cloud networking has two parts of a physical networking infrastructure and a cluster networking infrastructure. Now, physical network infrastructure is the fundamental building block that connects your cloud resources to other networks. It could be on-prem or the internet, any other networks or maybe sometimes other resources inside your network. And it is usually managed by the cloud providers in the public clouds and the networking department of your enterprise in private clouds. This layer is comprised of cables, which is routers, firewalls, eUnited, it's there. The other part of cloud networking is the cluster internal networking. In a Kubernetes cluster, this is managed by your cluster CNI plug. This CNI uses a software defined networking or SDN to provide connectivity between your workloads and either internal or external resources. While there are some standard features that most CNIs provide, each one has a unique take on networking. For example, Calico is built with a modular architecture to provide you with the most flexibility and gives you a pluggable data plane that allows you to switch between technologies at any time that you desire. So as I mentioned, it is modular. The data plane for Calico is modular. So its architecture is similar to Kubernetes itself. It offers multiple choices that gives you the freedom to tune your cloud environment in the way that is the most optimal for your scenario. Today, Calico offers four pluggable data planes that can be switched on depending on your needs and environments. So starting with standard data plane, it's based on IP tables, provides fast networking, security and compatibility to all environments. Calico EVPF, which is our focus for today is another data plane created by Tigera which uses the power of EVPF programs to provide blazing fast networking and security for your environment. EVPF data plane offers capabilities such as complete co-proxied replacement, source IP preservation and DSR and a couple others. If you're running a hybrid environment with your Kubernetes, you can use Calico for Windows which is based on Microsoft HNS or host network service and can deliver networking security to your Windows nodes. VBP is the newest data plane for Calico. It was an external contribution from Cisco currently in its beta phase which accelerates the networking experience by utilizing the power of the user space programming. Now, why I'm talking about these in an EVPF stream? Well, this is the catch. So EVPF as I mentioned is a technology that runs inside the kernel. So everything that you try to establish is directly injected into the kernel at the lowest level. VBP is at the user space level which is the highest level possible for a program to run. Now, you might think, well, the kernel is faster or you might think the user space is faster. Well, the thing is, depending on your scenario, each one can have different performance and what is important is to check everything out, do your due diligence and figure out which one works for your scenario. In fact, EVPF and SNS are some of the technologies that we use in our commercial offerings too. So keep short, we're going to explore on the standard data plane first. Now, the standard data plane is built on the Linux networking stack. It utilizes the power of IP tables to communicate with the kernel and pushes network boundaries as much as possible. The setup has been battle tested in every possible scenarios and think companies like OpenAI, Reddit, like big companies are dependent on it to serve their customers. Calico EVPF data plane is another data plane, as I mentioned, utilizes the power of EVPF programs to directly interact with the Linux kernel, implementing network for your cluster. Now, standard Linux data plane has a high throughput and it was designed for 10 gigabit links, policy enforcement is very fast and Kubernetes services are fast in it. It is flexible and you can change its behavior very easily. The best part about standard data plane is that anyone can change its behavior to some extent. Now we're getting to the parts that will be included in the troubleshooting. So standard data plane is really easy to troubleshoot. In fact, anyone can face a problem and search it in a stack overflow or any other forums to figure out how it can be saved, how it can be solved. But with EVPF, it's a little bit more difficult because again, everything is a binary or is a program that runs inside the kernel. So EVPF data plane is designed for 40 gigabit links or more. It has a higher throughput while consumption or its resource consumption is less than standard data plane. Keep in mind that this is not something that all EVPF data planes, my chair, everything is different. Again, the thing is EVPF on its own, it's a tool and depending on how you use it, you will get different results. At the end, you would accomplish one goal. Let's say you would move packet A from source to destination, but depending on how you are programming your data plane, you might get different performance and different benefits. It offers a faster policy enforcement since EVPF policies are compiled as EVPF programs and are injected directly into the Linux kernel. Kubernetes services are faster since EVPF data plane implements them via EVPF programs inside the Linux kernel. So you don't have to go through NETS link to IP table. And with Calico EVPF data plane, you have more flexibility to control or manipulate traffic since you're directly interacting with the kernel. So I talked about the difficulty of troubleshooting. Now troubleshooting EVPF programs, as I said, can be difficult and since EVPF is a fresh idea and lacks the amount of resources or the questions that were asked like for other technologies like the IP tables, you might find yourself a little bit discouraged, but don't be because each project that uses EVPF usually ships a troubleshooting tools that can peek into their EVPF programs to give you some sort of output or some sort of information or insight. The thing that is important is to know that all of these EVPF programs that are injected into the kernel are binary files. So if you're trying to use EVPF, make sure that you first go to the troubleshooting page of the project that you are choosing and figure out what utility can be used. Today, I'm gonna show you how Calico EVPF troubleshooting works. If you like an actual comparison in numbers about EVPF, you can check this article. It talks about different data planes, how IP tables and EVPF work together, how IP table and VPF compare to each other. All right, so I'm gonna skip source IP precision. And there's an audience question. And I think this could be a good slot for it. We have a question that goes, so this tool will help us prevent against DDoS or scanning cluster in communities. So yes, that's why I skipped the first use case and we're at the second use case. So short answer is yes, you can use EVPF to protect against DDoS. For cluster scanning, you can use it as not that it's impossible, but again, cluster scanning would fall into your policy. So it's not mandatory to use EVPF. However, you can use it to get better results. All right, so as one of the audience members mentioned, DDoS, so denial of service is a type of attack where an attacker overwhelms the resources of a target system by floating it with an enormous volume of requests. This flood or this fluid of requests aims to exhaust the victim's capacity to respond, rendering their services inaccessible to legitimate clients, to legitimate clients. Now that we know how the attack works, let's explore the defense measures that we can employ with both the standard Linux data plane and the EVPF data plane. So in a typical Linux environment, incoming requests are initially received by the network card. Then they proceed to the Linux kernel and the Linux networking stack. At this stage, we can leverage the raw IP tables table to manipulate these packets and modify their behavior or destination. In such a scenario, where an attacker is targeting your environment with a DDoS attack, the earliest point that you can deny these volume of requests is the IP tables row. Now, it is important to note that with this approach, depending on the size of the attack, there can be a noticeable impact on your note. This is because these packets must be processed by the Linux networking stack before they can be identified and eventually dropped. Now, to minimize the impact of such an attack, you can leverage EVPF. So for instance, Calico EVPF and its XDP integration in such a scenario allows you to create policies that can inject XDP programs to intercept these packets at the earliest point of entry. So let's, when the Elisabeth user tries to contact, the EVPF data plane will take the request and send it to the process that is running. So this is something that is ideal.  Well, XDP integration allows you to interact with these packets at several points in your environment. In some cases, Calico can directly load its EVPF programs into your network card and drop malicious packets before they can even hit the kernel. Keep in mind that this requires a network card that supports XDP integration and not all network cards are capable of doing this. This method is usually referred to as offloaded XDP. In cases where the offloaded XDP is not supported, the network driver card might provide the capability to load the XDP programs as part of the initial receive path of the traffic. This method is referred to as native XDP and again, not every network cards are capable of supporting it. If both cases are not available in your environment, Calico will automatically use the kernel to run its XDP programs, which is a great way to run XDP programs on generic hardware that does not provide specific support for XDP. This method is referred to as generic XDP. So, in fact, Calico XDP integration is available on both data planes, but in the standard Linux data plane, it's a little bit limited. If you like to try this scenario, just scan the QR code and you will be presented with a live environment that allows you to fiddle around with the XDP policies. All right, so now that we talked about these, let's go to the demo. Any other questions? Well, I'm trying this out. Not at the moment, but there's a lot of people saying hi, which is always lovely to see, but again, if you have any questions, just send them into the chat, and I think that now that we are at the demo point, we will probably take the questions after the demo at the Q&A moment after. Thank you, Annie. I just need to figure out where's the terminal. There it is, I see it. Yes, and hopefully onto this, all right. Oh, the, but be a bit small to see. Is it small, all right? Yeah, but with the colors and everything, but we can try out, you know, how it goes as well. Oh, I can definitely solve this problem. Let me just change. It's always nice when there's an easy solution. Yeah, but it usually doesn't work. It happens. Yeah, so this one is gonna be a little bit better. Now I think it's looking better. Yes, and with a bit of zooming, I think it's looking good now. And then if the audience, if you're still struggling a bit, let us know, but I think it's getting there quite nicely. So thank you for confirming. I'm gonna use multi-pass to run a local environment at the end of the stream. I'll share all the codes that I'm using. It's going to be in the get page, my other presentation. So it's going to be Annie with share the link with you guys. Thank you, Annie. It's gonna take some time. If you guys got any questions, let me know as computer is a little bit slow. It always happens when you need it to be fast. That's for sure. True, true, that is true. No questions so far. Let's see if anyone has any right now. I would guess that immediately when we have a question, it's all gonna move forward and then we don't. That is true. But now we have a question, can we explain? So multi-pass is an application that allows you to run virtual machines in seconds.  As you can see, it allows you to use data, I think it was data user or something, which is Linux startup command for unattended, Linux startup script for unattended install. So you can just jerryk everything into your script and launch a virtual machine and the result will be something that is working. So multi-pass list, so that two command gave me two virtual machines that are configured with Kubernetes. It's everything is installed, nodes are connected, everything is working, hopefully, and we can do the demo. Perfect, and after we're done with it, we have a few questions lined up already, but we can finish the demo first. All right, so to install Calico, their commended way is Tiger operator. Now, if this cluster that you have access to throughout the URL that Annie was kind enough to share is configured without COOP proxy. So usually COOP proxy is what configures IP table in your Kubernetes environment that allows the resources that you have inside your cluster to be able to talk to API server, other resources outside inside. So everything happens with COOP proxy. Now, if we take a look at the operator here, at some point, it would tell us something is wrong. I think it's gonna be like a minute or a second, 30 seconds. So here, as you can see, the operator is trying to communicate with this IP address. We don't know what it is at the moment, and it can't. So if I come to my services, it's like, aha, it's the API server. Now, as I mentioned in EVPF mode, Calico data plane can fully replace COOP proxy. Now, how you can do it is you need to create a config map with the for you Tiger operator to let it know where the Kubernetes host actually relies. So if you look here, I have a environment variable. This environment variable is giving me back the IP address of my control plane. That's about it. So now operator knows what's going on. Now, the operator would restart itself and take for the installation. So for troubleshooting, most of the time, if nothing is coming up, just go ahead, figure out what is the log is saying. It could be Tiger operator or any sort of operator. Just skim the logs, describe the pod. It would give you a hint of where to look at. Now, first problem was easy to debug. So now that we have the Kubernetes API server configured, I can go ahead and check the logs again. Now, this time, as you can see, after the operator finds the OS, finds the stuff, it goes into communicating with the API server, gets some information that it requires and immediately stops. It stops for the installation config. So the operator would continuously look for your installation resource. Now, what is an installation resource? It is the instruction that tells the operator in which way you want to install Calico and how you want to configure it for this demo. These are the configurations. This is the pod sider IP. All my pods are gonna be in this IP sider for encapsulation. I'm gonna use VXLan. So each time when a pod wants to talk to a pod in another network, by network, I mean, if a pod in node A wants to talk with a pod in node B and these two nodes are in different subnets. So a broadcast domain doesn't work. It can encapsulate that information with VXLan and use it instead of the layer to ARP discovery. I do have NAT outgoing enabled. So by that, that means all my pods are right now able to talk to the internet. You can change that, you can make it disabled or you can create multiple IP pools. You can create multiple IP pools and put your pods into each one depending on how you want to form your environment. Now, next part, there is another problem. Well, as you can see, everything is running but core DNS. So the default behavior or the default configuration for Calico is standard Linux data plane. Now, there are a couple of ways that you can change the default data plane. So one is you can come here inside your installation resource around here at Linux data plane, I believe, and say BPF, that's one way. The other way is if you have installed it, you can actually patch it and everything hopefully works. You'll see, you'll never know with a demo. I forgot to talk about troubleshooting it before solving it. So in order to troubleshoot this, you can come and check the Calico node logs of images. All right, so how you can troubleshoot the previous problem? So Calico node is variable to an extent, you can change this configuration and it tells you a lot of information. You can rep for error and figure out what is not working. There is an explicit thing that says the data plane something is not working. So Calico node is variable to an extent, is not working. But how you can figure out if BPF is running?  Oh, one thing to mention here. Calico uses unprivileged BPF. So there was an exploit some months ago where people could be still possible, but it depends on how you configure your BPF environment. For instance, Calico only uses unprivileged BPF programs. So no matter what happens, nobody can use BPF programs in order to exploit your environment. This is some sort of God shot that I've wanted to talk about. Now, next part, I'm gonna deploy an application and go actually into more BPF troubleshoot. So as I mentioned, BPF, BPF programs are binary. So if I go to my, let's say one of my nodes, there is almost no way out of the box. Similar to let's say IP tables dash L and we. So there is nothing like the sort of command that can give you an insight into what is happening. Now it's not a fault or it's not a flaw. This is because as I mentioned, each BPF data plane or each BPF program is unique to its community, to its projects. While everybody might use a same hook, they can use it in different ways or they can utilize it in different ways. So it will be pretty difficult to write a generic tool that can give you unique insights. It is possible to write something that gives you a general performance or general error sort of thing. Like you can use TC for instance. TC will allow you to run your generic BPF program and get some, what's it called? Some odd books about what is happening. TC also gives you a way to like hook into interfaces but we'll come back to that. So let's say I don't know what BPF is. I have no idea how to program. I enabled the eBPF data plane because of its performance and I want to troubleshoot it. Now what is the solution for me? Well, one thing that you can do is ship with your calcone node pod. There is an application called calcone node. Not surprisingly, but it has an option dash BPF. Now dash BPF has pre-prepared BPF programs that you can use to figure out what is going inside your cluster. So for instance, I can use the contours to figure out what is the ingress, egress or XDP metrics if I have any XDPs. If you launch the environment that I shared with a QR code, the XDP one, you can actually use these commands to figure out what is going on, how those policies are being used and you can use this information to your advantage, either performance tuning or troubleshooting. Now one thing to mention is there are a couple of arguments that you can use with these. I face, for instance, will give you explicit output about one interface or you can get all of them. There are a couple of others that you can use for instance, contract. Now Linux on its own in terms of networking is stateless. There is a component called contract that usually writes where a packet or flow is originated from and keeps it in mind for when you want to respond to that flow or traffic. Now in BPF mode, Calico establishes its own contract table using BPF programs. Now there are a couple of reasons for this but the best one is using BPF maps for this sort of things is very, it's very faster than relying on other things or other sort of hooks. Why? Because with BPF programs, as I said, the programmer can directly tap into the actual place that it needs to read and figure out what's going on and manipulate the traffic or the entries as they want. There are a couple of other things for instance, there is a NAT dump that you can do. So these will give you what is happening in terms of your pods accessing the internet. By the way, if these outputs are not familiar, don't worry, I'll share a link to the documentation which these are explained there way better than how I can explain it. It's explained by the clever engineers who peel these tools. I'm just trying to talk about it. So there are routes that you can figure out of what is going on in the notes that you have and one thing that might be very interesting for you guys is policy. Now, if you do a policy dump, you'll get an error. This is because when you want to do a policy dump, you need to tell what interface and what hook. Now the hook is either Ingress for the incoming packets or Egress for the outgoing packets or XDP, the one that I mentioned for DOS attacks. Now you can use all, but I would say an all is usually used when you want to just get of belling up what is going on. Anyway, now how this thing works, let me find an interface name first. Yeah, no worries, we have about nine minutes left and we have about one, two, three audience questions to cover as well, just keeping time, keeping in mind here. Oh, all right, so I'll just do this. So policy dump will tell you what is happening. It will use a TC hook to show you the way Ingress or Egress, you will figure out how these policies stack up. You can see the actual low level code for PPF. By the way, if somebody fancies a contribution to an open source, we can really use your help to change this output to whatever you like and add a flag for it. I'll be happy to review it, not that I would understand what you're doing, but I can get somebody who's really good in this sort of things to actually vet your contribution and that could be a good thing for a resume too. Again, it tells you what is happening and with that, I'll just end my explanations and share the link to the mothership. Perfect, this is the important thing now, perfect. Let's keep it there for a bit while we then get to some of the questions I think that we have. So the first one we have, colleague EPF can work with normal Linux system without Kubernetes cluster? Yes, there is actually a way to install Calico on a standalone host. Perfect, easy answer then. Can I use, Riza actually asks, from Riza, can I use EPF DDoS protection feature for advanced, actually how we understand what's happening? So, EVPF doesn't understand if an attack is happening. You can use EVPF troubleshooting tools or your monitoring platform to figure out if an attack is happening by monitoring the traffic, monitoring the bandwidth and if something is happening and it smells, you could write some sort of automation that adds EVPF policies to just get rid of that IP address or that sider. Cool, and then we have a question, which CNI tools prefer to use on premises? It depends on your scenario. I would say Calico, I can be a bit biased but there are lots of lots, you can use Flannel, Veeve, I don't, there are a lot of CNIs. Just test everything and figure out which one works for you. Hopefully Calico. Yeah, that would be a good one. And then we have, can I utilize EVPF for cluster mission? Yes, it is possible to use EVPF for cluster mission. Cluster mission, however, I'm not sure. So a cluster mesh is when you connect two clusters together. Now, there are ways to use EVPF for it but there are other ways too. Yes, you can definitely use EVPF to get those packets, assure them to their destinations. You can also use BERT or BGP or any Sorgot or protocols too. It depends on like how adventurous you are. Yeah, sounds good. And then Asif asks, is EVPF open source? Can we use it for testing? So there's a double long talk right here. So EVPF is open source. If you're talking about the programming part of it or the framework that you can use to talk to the Linux kernel, that is open source. If you're talking about Calico EVPF data plane, that is also open source too. You can go change it, run it in your own environment. Hopefully submit the changes for us too so we can use your awesome contributions. And can you use it for testing? Yes, you can also use it for production too. It depends on again, you and your environment. Great, and then we have the last question so far. And as we have three minutes left, so this is also last call for questions. So if you're typing a question in, send it in now while we answer this so far last question. Do Cisco Juniper also have a CNI solution? I'm not the best person to answer this because I'm not that familiar with Juniper. I do know Cisco ACS has option to install Calico and that way you can use a CNI in their cloud platform. Yeah. But yeah, the best way will be in searching their documentation. A bit of a deep drive there, perfect. While we see if we have someone typing a question, I would have a question. If someone's super excited to learn more about the topic, what would be the resource you would recommend them to check out next? So EBV of data plane, the documentation. So docs.tigerra.io as I shared with you. If somebody fancies writing code that directly interact with the kernel, then evpf.io is a great start. What's it called? The Linux kernel GitHub repository and the Linux kernel mailing list are way more amazing than you can imagine for this sort of information. But again, it depends on the levels that you want to interact with the technology. Yeah, sounds good. And now we have two minutes left and we have actually two new questions. So these are the final questions I think that we have time for. So we have, how can we use EBVF for Kubernetes security? I am very new to EBVF. So as I mentioned, EBVF programs are directly injected to the kernel. You can use these to manipulate traffic that is facing your Kubernetes cluster or you can actually peek into what is happening inside the packets. That will be the security view of the top of my mind. Yeah, then we have the final question for today which is hello, is the EBVF Calico highly available? The EBVF daemon agent crash dot dot dot dot and so forth. So essentially is EBVF Calico highly available? So Calico EBVF data plane relies on Calico node and Calico node is highly available. So if something happens, it will not drop your connections. Everything goes smoothly, but it like, what's it called, try to recuperate on the background and comes back. So again, BPF met working happens with BPF programs that are injected into your kernel. That's about it. If the BPF data plane crashes, the programs are in there and doing their work. Perfect, and that is all that we have time for today but so many great questions which is always lovely to see. So let's wrap it up. So thank you everyone for joining the latest episode of Cloud Native Live. It was great to have a session about troubleshooting EBVF data plane in Kubernetes cluster. And I really loved the audience interaction today and the questions really quit stuff everyone. Thank you so much. And as always, we bring you the latest Cloud Native code every week. So tune in in the coming weeks as well. 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Chancellor Kohl and I have just concluded a series of conversations that covered a wide range of politics and security and economic issues of mutual interest to our countries. We agreed on close consultations are necessary, as in the past, and we fully intend to stay in close touch. I would like to take this opportunity to announce as part of our initiative to increase contacts between the German and American peoples, a high-level commission for the U.S., the United States, and German tricentennial has been formed. And this group will coordinate the many activities celebrating the 300th anniversary of the arrival of the first German settlers in America at Germantown, Pennsylvania. And Chancellor Kohl and I have just met with several distinguished Americans who are standing behind us now who have agreed to help in this effort. We will be closely following their progress. In 1983, we will commemorate innumerable contributions made to American society by our fellow citizens of German descent, including our Secretary of State Schultz, whose forebears came from southwest Germany. Events to celebrate the anniversary are planned by many communities in both countries. The commission will represent me throughout the commemorative, and it will be chaired by the former National Secretary of and of our National Security Council, Richard Allen, Charles Wick, head of the United States Information Agency, Chief Justice Warren Berger, and other distinguished Americans who have agreed to play a part. One of the high points of the celebration will take place in Philadelphia in October 1983 at a gala banquet which both President Carstens of the Federal Republic of Germany and I hope to attend. The United States Congress is marking the occasion. The Senate has passed and there is now before the House a joint resolution proclaiming 1983 as German-American tricentennial year. I'm sure that the commemoration of the deep and lasting friendship between our two countries will be a great success. And again, let me just say it's been a great pleasure to welcome Chancellor Kohl here to our country again. Herr Präsident, meine Damen und Herren, ich empfinde es als eine besonders glückliche Fügung, dass Präsident Regen bei meinem ersten Besuch als Kanzler in den USA, als Kanzler der Bundesrepublik Deutschland in den USA, heute die Konstituierung einer besonderen Kommission für die 300-Jahrfeier deutsch-amerikanische Beziehungen bekannt gibt. Mr. President, I consider it to be a most heavy coincidence that today, my first visit to the United States as Federal Chancellor, President Regen has announced the appointment of a special commission on the tricentennial of German-American relations.  What we will be commemorating together next year is not merely the immigration of 13 families from the German city of Greifeld, we will also be celebrating an intensive and fruitful relationship of give and take between Germany and America extending over three centuries.  Ihr Land Amerika hat diesen Beitrag vielfach zurückgegeben. You, Mr. President, have spoken of the Germans who have helped to build this great and free country. America, your country, has repaid that contribution many times over. Ich erinnere an den Katalog der Menschen- und Freiheitsrechte in der amerikanischen Beelow Freiheits. Sie war Vorbild für den ersten Versuch einer freiheitlich-demokratischen Verfassung für Deutschland im Jahre 1948. Und unser Grundgesetz, die Verfassung der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, hat den Katalog der Grundrechte zur Grundlage unseres Verfassungs- und unseres Rechtssystems gemacht. I call to mind the catalogue of human rights and freedoms embodied in your Bill of Rights. It served as a model for the first attempt to set up a free and democratic constitution in Germany in 1848. With our present constitution, the basic law used that same catalogue of fundamental rights as the foundation for our constitutional and legal system. I recall that in the dark years of Germany's history, hundreds of thousands of Germans found refuge in America. I will mention only Karschutz, Walter Krobius, and Thomas Mann and Albert Einstein, who represent so many more. Following two great wars in which Germans and Americans were at worst raised, we Germans came to experience the greatest virtue of the Americans, their generosity and their desire to help. In my remarks today, I would like to mention that my generation is grateful for the Huber aid work and the care packages. Without the Marshall Plan, it would not have been possible to rebuild the country again. In my remarks responding to your address of welcome as to President, I refer to the fact that my generation remembers with gratitude the Huber aid program and the care parcels and without the Marshall Plan, the speedy recovery of my country would not have been possible. Today, our spirit and culture of love are brought through diverse exchange of knowledge and research. Many of my fellow countrymen know and respect Ernest Hennemey, John Steinbeck, Tontenwalder and our young people read the sweet Sunday to mention a few names. Today, relations between our two countries are characterized by a wide variety of exchanges in the fields of culture, science and research. Every German knows Ernest Hennemey, John Steinbeck and Tontenwalder and young people in our country read Susan Sontack to name only a few. Mr. President, my ladies and gentlemen of the Presidential Commission, allow us the history of a commitment for the present and the future, for us, for the generation of our children and for the next generation. That is our responsibility in our days. Mr. President, members of the Presidential Commission, let us make the past an obligation for the future, for ourselves and for the next generation of our children and their children. This is our responsibility in these days. Thank you very much.


I wish I'd been happier was the third regret of the dying. I think what probably people mean by that because I've experienced this in my life. I think sometimes in life we take things too seriously, take ourselves too seriously. We're too concerned about producing and turning stuff out. We should be more concerned about where happiness really comes from, which is love and family and friends and people. People matter more than things.  Wish I'd been happier. Be freaking happy.


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I can't remember a story of its kind that impressed me more If you feel about it as I do I think you listen to it with the sort of absorption that a good ghost story gives But with something else added a moral that all of us could well learn And I think you'll agree too that miss hull has proved herself adept at the creation of a mood We are especially fortunate tonight in having with us to play in the starting role that very fine Hollywood actress Who has been winning so many praises lately? Miss Jane Wyman and now Frank gas have you a few words about hallmark? There are hallmark cards for every memorable occasion on your calendar for birthdays anniversaries holidays Yes for every occasion that calls for remembrance for a friendly greeting a word of good cheer an expression of sympathy There is a hallmark card that says just what you want to say the way you want to say it and that identifying name on the back Hallmark. Well, that says you cared enough to send the very best Hallmark Playhouse presenting Helen Rose Hull's clay shutter doors and starring Jane Wyman Life sips through our hands like the sand in an hourglass But where does life end and death begin? The last grains fall one by one I knew almost invisible and Even time is a cheat for all its relentlessness It was my last supper on Cape Cod I'd spend all my summers there as a girl even before my marriage to win Corson before the birth of my son Fletcher. I Hated the autumn Hated the thought of returning to the large house when it purchased on Long Island But most of all I hated leaving Mary the one friend who remained exclusively mine for a lifetime Don't be so pensive we'll be seeing each other after all I'll be living right in Manhattan Oh, I know Mary, but it's been such a wonderful summer so quiet and relaxing even when is different when he comes up for the weekend You know, he's been working so hard on this merger if it goes through he'll be the biggest distributor in the automobile industry There's the genius of the automobile industry mind my riding into town with you. Oh, no Sometimes I don't think when approves of me nonsense wins very fond of you just as I am here he comes I've told Charles to take care of locking things up. No, it's raining like fury means a rough drive I'd like to get started. Oh last minute me. I have a few things to pack yet. Will you excuse me when Shall I pour you cup of tea when tea go for heaven's sake failure, let's get started Oh darling, don't you think you ought to put the chains on the tires the roads are so slippery and wet No, I don't I'm not gonna listen to those things clanging all the way into town. Where's Fletcher? He's all ready. I'll see if you can't hurry Mary a bit. Will you she knows we're leaving I know you know how she is when I envy her and I don't she's completely without purpose You've outgrown her darling. What good can she do you why she's my friend when ever since we were children I've never wanted anything from her, but that I'll see if you can't get a little speed along with it That's wins name for people who live in apartment houses. I'll never seize him over on this side. Oh Mary he's going ahead in the wrong lane Maybe see an opening up ahead he can slip into but there are cars coming to those headlights When Mary get down flat you those lights you in the cell coming out be a lane like that on wet hay I don't get hysterical this is bad enough Don't do that don't move a young man. I think it's just shocked. Let me in there. She's my wife She's just fainted hasn't she? That's all that's it. Isn't it?  You must listen to me.  I'm sorry.  There's a cabin line here Mary. I'll take failure you bring Fletcher in another.  I? No Why shouldn't she be all right nothing with shock that's all I'm all right Mary Wins says I'm all right He'd know I sent Fletcher to his room when he's quite upset I think you'd better go in and talk to him before you bring him in here. Yes, I guess I'd better at that You'll call me if you want anything dear. Yes, win If I need anything that you have to give I'll call you you really all right there. Yeah, I guess Win loves me He called me He needs me But it's so hard. What did you say dear? I'll be myself again As soon as I've rested a little go away Mary Please stay course.   I was scared stiff I Know my girl Look at her Beautiful as ever. I still think it wouldn't be a mist to call in a doctor and having no No, of course. She doesn't want a doctor one idiot's enough for today What do you want to do have another one come in here and tell failure that she's But she's that I'm dead. Yes, that other one. I don't even think he knew how to take a pulse Perhaps Mary should see a doctor though. Thank you. I wasn't injured. Wait a minute failure has a good idea After all you were a passenger in the car. You don't owe me anything and I'm quite all right That's good. Good. But if anything does come up, let me know, huh? Why win? Why? Well good heavens tell you I don't want any claims or any publicity about the accident I'm sure Mary understands that even though she isn't as close to it as you are as close to what? Well this merger dear Anybody had been hurt. It could have killed the whole deal Papers would pick it up when you know how people talk wrecking my own car There's always the suspicion that you've been drinking. Yes, I Guess your merger could have been killed on that bridge. I knew you'd understand when you thought about it Yes, win. I understand perfectly Think I'd better go. I I haven't even seen my new apartment yet.  You know I love you love That's a strange word Mary There are two kinds of love One is like a cut flower that withers and dies The other is like your love Mary strong like a tree Make sure you get that kind of love your kind of love Love like winds is helpless and mute It never shouts out across great time and space With people like wind Only fear and self-desire are strong In a moment James Hilton will return to bring you the second act of clay shuttered doors starring Jane Wyman But first I guess nearly every grown-up likes to make children happy And so I want to tell you about hallmark dolls for you should see how any little girl's eyes light up with joy When you give her one of these unusual dolls to add to her collection There are now 24 dolls to select from the newest being a series of hallmark dolls of the nations each in costume Representing a different nation. There's Anne of England and when that of France a trinket of Holland Maria of Mexico Rita of Brazil sing toy of China John the Royal Canadian Mountie and from our own Wild West Cowboy Joe Costumes are in full color front and back There's a real plume in each hat and they stand up like real little people eight inches high Inside each hallmark doll is a clever rhyme story about the nation it represents a story as educational as a lesson in school Only twice as much fun because it tells how children live in another land Hallmark dolls of the nations and the other hallmark dolls make wonderful gifts for birthdays as party favors to cheer up a little friend Who's ill or just to remind some little girl that you are thinking of her There is easy to send as a greeting card and cost only 25 cents each or for a dollar You get a beautiful doll collectors album with two dolls already in it Find hallmark dolls at the same friendly store where you buy your hallmark greeting card And now we continue with act 2 of Helen Rose Hull's clay shutter doors starring Jane Wyman cruelty is the child of despair and Often we leave on the doorstep of those we love Because others won't take it Perhaps I should have left Mary her illusions We might have been closer while the last tiny grains of sand are falling in the hourglass. I Was lonely without her Lonely in the midst of winds crowded life with a loneliness that only the And no a Month went by to three And then I wrote to her And she came Harry. I'm glad to see you come in. Thank you. Well, you're wrote and she sounded distressed Well, ever since the accident. She's been nervous not herself a good part of the time people have been mentioning it I told you she needed attention when why does she refuse to see a doctor? I don't know. She's full of strange whims She's got me jumpy, too I came home one evening and I could have sworn that I saw that little man from the bridge Yes, I thought I saw him leaving the house as I drove up the servants had known when I asked Thalia She just left but she isn't right. She she locks herself in her room sometimes for days Unless we have a party or some social obligation, and she's fine. She sparkles Mary Dear Mary Nothing that make up won't fix this win would say I Haven't said good night to Fletcher Come up with me Then we can visit Excuse us. We go Who is Fletcher? He's getting big and gangly Doing very nicely in school sounds very much like you too much I Wish he were more like win The earth was made for people like when Mary you've helped him. He wouldn't be so important without you I think he knows that yes He knows that Fletcher is in this room now Gave him a bigger space to grow in So well when his room was right next to yours boys become independent quite suddenly sometimes Hello Fletcher I came up to say good night to you dear Good night mother. I haven't seen Fletcher for so long. Hey, may I stay with him for a moment? Well, I'll see you in the library Mary Good night, son Good night, but you're here. What's the matter? Why can't we go back to the game Mary? Here now stop that crying go back to the Cape again in the summer. I want to go back now Mother is different there. So many more. She doesn't even kiss me. Good night. She probably forgot just because I'm here No She never does not says we came back mother isn't well Fletcher and she has so much to do Why did you leave me my dog? Nugs away, but your mother loved Nugs. Was he injured or sick? No to tell you what? I'll find out where she sent Nugs and I'll get him and take him to live with me And then you can come over and see him. All right. Yes Fletcher tomorrow Right Mary do kiss me. Good night. Oh Fletcher You and Fletcher are new old acquaintance. Yes We How do you look at me so strangely Mary?  I've been thinking of sending failure to Europe for a good rest Mary after the merger goes through of course Yes, I can't leave until that merger goes through Mary I'm very important until then failure. Why do you have to read new meanings into my words? I only suggested a vacation for you How's the merger going win I can tell you that Mary it's going very nicely I Handle it really We entertain the lords of industry at dinner and in some mysterious way Vast corporations become one It makes a wife a necessity, you know, you'll love it invite Mary to the next she bang and let her see how well you do it You must come to my next performance Mary the play goes on beautifully Especially since nobody was hurt in the accident on the bridge really tell you I think I've had enough of that I have some work in my study Another dinner help me Mary You must I need you now more than I ever did when I More than I ever did before do anything you say Come to dinner Thursday Say you will I'll come and Forgive me for tonight. I think you'd better go home now if you stay I Might tell you things you wouldn't care to live with Sorry, I didn't think to ask an extra man Mary very thoughtless of me Your wonderful dinner indicates a great deal of thought besides gives me a chance to sit next to you I'm glad of that JB is talking to you. Oh, sorry JB You're one man. I always listen to What did you say? Well? I just said that you were more charming than ever I told win that you're just about the prettiest wife and the whole automobile industry and I'll stick to that until my wife gets me home Sam Sam. Well, everybody's in such a good mood. Why don't we let the girls in on a little secret, huh? Okay? Quiet everybody quiet Sam has the floor Ladies and gentlemen, I have the pleasure of announcing the merger of all our automobile interests Into the new regal 8 corporation With mr. Wynn Cawson as our great president Look at when he's beaming I've never seen him like that neither have I Mary neither Now hold on folks hold on. I've got a little toast to propose Let's drink to failure Cawson the real power behind this boy of ours. That's right. Thank you, Jay B and thanks to all of you Because I Deserve that toast More than any of you will ever know Failure you've got your merger win and now I've got my freedom I Help me Mary Please please everybody my wife hasn't been well, please go on. I'll rejoin you in a minute I'll get you upstairs in your bed. Tell you just hold on dear Mary here. Let me help you Help me win.    I'll be up to see you later Mary telephone number on the cover you've disturbed her out of the caution You were the one who disturbed her never will again.  Hey, I I'll make the necessary arrangements I'm sure you will win You can arrange anything Well, what do you mean? I'll tell you win. I Told Mary what it was that called me back from that you're kind of the love that leaves you alone Your love is helpless can never shut out or shout out across great time Only your fear and self-desire are strong I mourn for you win Before James Hilton and Jane Wyman return I'd like to remind you of the hallmark date book waiting for you at the friendly store where you find hallmark greeting cards This useful little book has a space for every day of the year with room to jot down things to do that day a Place for names and addresses of people to remember on important days like birthdays and anniversaries You'll use your hallmark date book for all sorts of reminders meetings appointments bridge luncheons Perhaps even when to plant early lettuce, but most important It will help you strengthen those ties of friendship that means so much now to get your hallmark date book Just ask for it. 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Thank you, mr Hilton it was an honor to be on the hallmark playhouse and I do want you to know however that I'm Really an ordinary person even though I may be cast sometimes as a deaf girl or the kind of woman I portrayed in tonight's story But playing the part of unfortunate people has its advantages You come to realize how important it is to have friends and how necessary a little thoughtfulness is in this world That's why I'm especially fond of your hallmark people and your fine hallmark cards You have a tradition a friendship and thoughtfulness Thank You miss Wyman for your compliment. We hallmark people try to make that our guiding inspiration Ladies and gentlemen may I invite you to join us next week when we present Christopher Moorley's great story Parnasas on wheels Starring an actress who not only has a successful screen career But has performed with notable success on the New York stage miss Ruth Hussie and the following week a story of dedication and inspiration Catherine Havel and Taylor's the failure Starring one of Hollywood's outstanding character actors mr. Ward Bond and a week after that We have what I think could probably be called a scoop a truly great story about Abraham Lincoln Based on Carl Sandberg's the prairie years and starring one of Hollywood's finest actors Gregory Peck So make Thursday night your hallmark playhouse night our director producer is D angle back Our music is composed and conducted by Lynn Murray and our script was adapted by Joel Murkart So until next Thursday. 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What is up everybody, Jason here for jaspy's casebreaks.com. We just sold out Jaspy's nine box Grand Slam mixer, guys. It's a random team break where we are giving away an Otani autograph and a Corbin carol at a 25 PSA 10 rookie autograph at the end, guys. So again, this is a nine box break. So obviously the breaks you see, the boxes you see there and also in this photo are what we're doing here, guys. All cart ship, everybody gets a random team at MLB. Then at the end of the break, we'll randomize the names. Top name wins the Corbin carol, guys. Number two gets the Shohei Otani. We've got two different giveaways there and you just see the cards are right there. So let's do the randomizer for the break first. Then we'll do the break, then we'll do the giveaway, guys. So let's roll it. We got ourselves a full 12, six and a six. All right, and here we go. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. 12 times, 12. Kenny at the top, done a Joe at the bottom. And of course, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. 12 times, 12 times, said Phillies. That are the San Diego Padres. All right, so Kenny, you have the Phillies, Cardinals with the Brewers and Rockies, Joe with the Yankees, David with the Dimex, Kyle with the Royals, Brian with the Rangers, Chris with the A's, Ryan with the Orioles. We got Cardinals with the Rays, Christopher with the Cubs, Arthur with the Mets, Matt with the Tigers, Christopher with the Dodgers, Cardinals with the Twins, Scott with the White Sox, Kenny with the Red Sox, Tim with the Marlins, Christopher with the Pirates, Kenny with the Braves, Scott with the Mariners, Travis with the Guardians, Cardinals with the Nationals, Tim with the Cardinals, Eugene with the Giants, Rex you have the Blue Jays, David with the Angels, Cardinals with the Reds, Scott with the Astros, and then Joe you have the Padres. So again, if you guys wanna make any trades, I'll give you guys a quick minute to look at your teams. Try to trade amongst each other on the chat if you don't see anybody else chatting guys. Most likely those teams might not be available or customers are not watching, vice versa. Another 30 seconds guys, Chris trying to see if anybody wants the A's. All right Chris, sorry buddy. Try to trade, couldn't trade the Molojo coming your way. All right guys, so again, here are the two giveaway cards, right? Got them right here. And then there's a Corbin Cario out of 25 PSA 10. Tough one to grade to. So we'll do these card giveaways at the end guys. Leave these over here on the side for now. But now let's just do the break. See what we can get out of here. Biggest of luck. Chase the Lauder, Jimmy Crooks, Michael Kennedy and Landon Sims for the Diamondbacks as the autograph. Arizona Diamondbacks, that's gonna go to David. And then actually we got a back to back Autos. Tyler Stewart for the Mets. Went to Arthur to 250. So a couple of pictures there. One of them, the Landon Sims is actually a first round pick. So not too shabby there. Usually only one autograph in this stuff so. Bonus Autos always nice. Looks like we got another color. There's Seuss. And we got a Dalton Rushing first. That's nice. Good prospect there for the Dodgers. One of the top ones as well. It's a 99, second round pick. Zack Nato first. Which are Schultz, Jackson, Holiday, William, Simpson. Well this one had two Autos so it's pretty nice. All right then pretty much after the Sapphire boxes guys everything's pretty much like a one-pack, two, three-pack box. Like museums are a couple of mini boxes and then the rest of them are all one-pack. Should be pretty fast from here on out. Sapphire, Steven Duggar. There's a Tautis actually, wow. We've done a lot of these boxes and they have not been that good. By the way we'll take a Tautis rookie Sapphire. Padres, that's going to Joe. Matthew Boyd to 25. And Dakota Hudson, rookie autograph for the Cardinals. Cardinals that is Tim and Michael Copic. All right, first time we actually got a good rookie Sapphire with that Tautis. And we're going to 2021 Bowman from Sapphire. Christian Hernandez first. Tristan McKenzie rookie. And a Yolecki. Cespedes to 75. Sick though, he's back in the league now. Christian Santana, Cronenworth rookie. Buster Posey to 125 green. We've got Nicoladola to 99. And then Casey Mottas. Shonyamaguchi for the Blue Jays. And we've got a rookie Luba for the White Sox. Very nice. Scott with the White Sox. All right, then we're going to 2019 tier one. Adrian Beltry to 80 for Texas. We've got a Buster Posey Relic to 375. And then Sandy Alcantara for Maddie Marlins. Brian Crafts with the Rangers. Ariac K.M. Shoff. Jose Valles. We've got a purple Armando Cruz to 250. For the Washington Nationals. So Washington Nationals is Carlos. Kansas City Royals is Kyle Harper. And then Cleveland is Travis. All right guys, museum collection. And we're down to the last two which is Bumineers and Immaculate. This box feels heavy guys. I feel like it either has a book or has a frame. Either that or it got duped. But it felt like it was a little heavier than normal. All right, this one's a frame. All right, we got a frame, guys. Awesome. We'll leave that for last. Yoshida, then we've got a Gavin Lux Relic for the Dodgers. Christopher, then we've got Ruchman Rookie. Then we've got a Quad Relic there of Nick Perato for the Royals. Corey Seager to 150 for Texas. All right, then we've got a Pachelbel coming up. And it's Anthony Rizzo, nine out of 10. Very nice one there for the Yankees. Yankees won a joke. Very nice. We've got Cabrera Cannabis Collection. All right, here we go, nice frame. Also a case hit, so pick the right box as well. And we've got Corbin Burns out of 15. Milwaukee Brewers, one of Carlos. All righty, guys. Two more boxes. We've got an Immaculate, and then we've got Illuminarius. All right, we've got a Patch Jose Ramos for the Dodgers. It's a 10. Josper Zuleta. Then we have a Brian Rochio to 35 for Cleveland. Darden's gonna Travis. Mike Piazza for the Padres. Little Patch. And we've got a Gary Sheffield to 15 for the Florida Marlins, which is Miami Marlins going to. And the last one here is a Mazatake Yoshino. 10 out of 10. Three-color Patch and autograph. Red Sox going to Kenny. All right, nice box here, though. Not too bad right there. All right, done with the final box here, though, guys. Illuminarius. Here we go. Looks like a single, and it looks like it's red out of 10. How about a Gunner? Henderson to end it off. Nine out of 10. Ryan Pressnall with the Baltimore Orioles. There we go. Very nice way to end that box. All righty, guys, and there you go, everybody. That was the break. So I was seeing nine boxes. A lot of one-pack boxes in here, but we did get some nice stuff out of some of these boxes here like that Gunner, the Yoshida. All right, we've got a Corbin Burns, the little frame case at Anthony Rizzolotto. Obviously, these are more on the prospect side. You know, we got that Lubaub, too, as well, rookie. But it's not over quite yet, guys, if you didn't get anything. We just have an opportunity to get something. And again, number one gets the Corbin Carroll, guys, on the randomizer. Number two gets the Otani. So let's see who those are gonna go to. So, remember, top name gets the Corbin Carroll. Number two gets the Otani. There's the list. Let's roll it. Snake guys, just two times, guys. I'm gonna randomize it. Here we go, top two. One and two. Two times, two, two. Just missed out, Carlos. But number two is gonna get the Otani is Tim from Capstone's Pack 180. And number one who gets the Corbin Carroll is Joe. Nice. Congrats, man. So, Joe, you're gonna get the Corbin Carroll. Let's put your name on that one.  All right, I appreciate it, guys. Thank you, guys. Remember, we have another mixer similar to this, where we're doing a nice little mixer, plus some giveaways and some cards. If you guys wanna get on that one, guys, appreciate it, jazbeascasebrakes.com.


The hajmola sneaks up on you and just totally ruins your soul this comes up to you and goes It's on Corbin and this is real. Let's talk about snacks, baby. Let's talk about you and me. Please follow us on instagram Juicy gondon Twitter account that you can follow right here Today we'll be reacting. No, I guess reacting reacting to taste to taste. We're doing another snack slash candy video We've done one of those before. Yeah, right here Uh, they were delicious, but obviously we missed a bunch because people have more than seven snacks in their country most do Except for Fiji Message from somebody from Fiji We have plenty of snacks Once again as always If we don't like something we are not disrespecting your food or culture Especially I say it every video, but you still say it in the comments Yeah, and we know that you can get most authentic food in india Yeah, we get it. We are gonna come there eventually and eat the food there and it'll be much better And we'll be like, whoa, we've said it every video you're gonna still say it in the comments Yeah, but we do have some special guests this episode. What? One two three is mica. Hello. This is lexie. Hi lexus. I don't know if she wants to be called. Her name's lexie. She goes by lexie These are my children. Yeah. Yes kids. Uh, I had them when I was about two They will be trying snacks with us today. They're my kids. Yes, they are obviously a smile Here we go Uncle chip spicy treat made with real uncles.  These ones are called spicy treat, which will be great for corbin I went a little adventurous when I was at the store today. I'm proud of you and let's see if I can open Hold on Good grief. Oh god. It smells kind of funky. I love the funk. Everybody. I love it when it smells funky Make sure you smell them. Gotta smell the funk Let's see what we got going on. I want a big chip. It does smell similar to the Kind of the masala stuff we've had before it again. It has a unique unusual Smells like an uncle sloucher. Let's see where we go There's a little hodge. I got PTSD from hodge mola. Oh, yeah, there's a turmeric in there There's probably a bunch of spice in there that um, no, I don't like them. You would they're not even spicy No, no, there's no heat in those at all interesting I don't like you. You like it. Yeah. No, there's a hint of hodge mola bold mere lips I love uncle chips Thumbs up This is a coke thumbs up uh, uh, uh, drink. Uh, it's from coca-cola But this is what I've been told that people drink in india as opposed to They prefer to coke or Pepsi or whatever So we'll see it might just taste like coke. It might if it's made by coke asmr That was the first the first lick was more asmr Now I gotta go potty It smells like Coke coke from mexico or papua new guinea, which is a different uh, it does smell like a different mix. It's probably just coke slouchers Oh teeth. No, what is that? You had some of the spice of uh, some of the the flavor of one of those chips at first it tastes like coke It has some you don't taste the difference It tastes like it tastes like the coke from mexico or papua new guinea, which is the one that doesn't There's something else in that It's some of the spices and on some of these chips that we've had Yeah, why would that be in the soda? They don't like spice man. Rick doesn't have taste buds everyone It's different. It's not bad at all. I like it. I drink it. I drink it Product of india, right? You like it? Yep drinkable thumbs up for thumbs up Chicky peanut good Oh, it looks like peanut brittle Meet back either peanut brittle. This has wow for medicine There's tape on it.  It looks like peanut brittle It does look like peanut brittle. Is it peanut brittle? I bet it is.  Party fell. Is that what peanut brittle tastes like? No Wait, this is good Oh, yeah, it's almost like the inside of a Peanut chocolate bar. This is good without the chocolate.  You know, I gotta go it could be my pocket a lot of peanut flavor in there. Really good. Yeah Oh, I'm with my favorite so far Yeah What do you like? Do you like it? Do you like it, Micah? It's good Reactions for Micah If nobody got him here My solid munch, kakuri I have to climb to be found The next bag I want to try and open that because this is No, he's been banned from youtube. We had um here Did you wash your hands? No, these look like Cheetos But we've had a kakuri in the last video in our last video.  These were our favorite chips in the last video remember. Yeah, we love them We had the herb ones, right? I think these are the ones that have uh, masala, right? Yeah, and so I don't know if they have a little spice here Come on Sautu I got some zingles How you doing Corbin? Oh, it's got a little kick, doesn't it? For Corbin, it's got a yeah Is it the back of the throat? I'm gonna do what you'll want me to do. We have so much fun at Corbin's expense. Oh god Good, right? It tastes delicious. It is. These are good Am I crying again? It's good The flavor is really really good. There's a lot of flavor But yes, they have the Is it the masala? It's masala like I don't know what the masala means, but anything that has masala. I think it's spicy Yeah, oh, wow. There's 15 000 ingredients apology What do you got there? Lexi, a little inside information is the second oldest child of rick seagulls. It's true or the second youngest It's true. I think I'm touching his breathy. Ah, just don't touch me. These look like they're probably going to go break up It's biscuit, tea or coffee Oh, it's not That's interesting. Oh, yeah I know y'all love it when it smells stuff, but What is it? Is that like spicy? No What what are you smelling pal? I like it. It smells familiar. It smells sweet. It does smell familiar. A bad feeling. It's bad for real. It's a hospital. What kind of hospital are you been in? Nope, nope Nope tastes like it smells. It does. Nope. See it tastes like It tastes like a biscuit. Yeah, a lot. It's a bad biscuit. No, no. It doesn't hurt you tasting. No, it tastes bad I know what they're tasting Yeah, that's Tastes like an old person First of all, whether you tasted an old person, you don't want to know man. You don't want to know What was my son doing in the spare time wicking old people?  Yeah, the kids a little scary Eat the goodies. Eat the goodies and you'll become old Plays Spanish tomato tango Okay, I get to open this bag. Oh goody the ketchup chips. Dad, it's me. It doesn't look like these chips are made out of ketchup They do and I gotta tell you this is going to be Alexis's favorite because Alexis just loves tomatoes Big strong man Big strong man. You've already tried this. You don't remember this in our last video. I do remember it. My hands were slipping It's oily and fishy I'm gone. That's right Nope fairy tomato-y Really? Yeah, it smells like ketchup. Yep, it does smell like ketchup You're okay Never knew I never knew you could find such joy in a substance.  Does it not? Yeah, it does. Does it not? It smells like ketchup. Does it not? Here we go. It does. Smells like maybe it'll taste like french fries and ketchup. Go! It tastes like ketchup It tastes like um, just eat a frickin tomato. Okay, that's yeah It's like tomato soup with the basket. It's weirdly I don't hate it, but I wouldn't go out of my way to eat these It's just weird because it's like why is ketchup with a chip? It's weird because it's it tastes like tomato soup with the textures chip. Yeah, so my brain's going Do you like these? Juiciest tomato Juicy chips. Oh, yeah, and the juicy lady is his other daughter.  They're probably gonna be real good. It smells like a Kit Kat. It does Whoa, what are you expecting now? I was expecting a crime punchy. It kind of just like a Like a chocolate bar. I guess that's what it is. It's like chocolate Yeah I was expecting it to be like a like a Kit Kat crunchy wafer thing. That's because it's it's by Cadbury Do you find that funny? It is by Cadbury. I like it. We know Cadbury as eggs the eggs easier Easter eggs That's where we know Cadbury from with the commercial that goes Nobody knows that commercial. Nobody's a hundred Hold the rod on Kada Mita Seen in the movie under This is the one specifically for Corbin to pronounce. I don't know how you pronounce that Birdseed It looks like birdseed here. What's the proper way to eat this just like pouring? Oh, I actually do it. We should probably just It's probably like that.  There you go. Oh, he's already going at it. It smells like something we've eaten before That's a lot. Maybe It kind of reminds me of the bad stuff. Yeah, put that down.  Well, I taste hojmola poo poo I don't there's peas in there. Oh, there's peas in there Oh, yeah I actually don't mind it. I think No, really, I want to try it. I'm so afraid of hojmola My dreams at night are haunted by the hojmola that comes to me. Why are you disrespecting their culture? Yeah, because you love hojmola so much. Is this like trail mix? Oh, it must be. There's peanuts in it. Yeah, peanuts in it. It's like trail mix with peas Chickpeas and weird I don't mind it. I like it. I kind of like it.  This reminds me of um Yeah It might just be chocolate Yep It's chocolate. It's chocolate. It tastes chocolate. It tastes like a Cadbury This is when? I haven't had chocolate in my whole life. It's just become a family feud Try this. It's dead It's true I like the tagging It does a little bit. All right, so yeah, I think you just bite it. You just go for it. Okay, so we'll just bite it Yeah, then we'll eat the other half I've never painted into something like that Go. Oh god Like that's like Perfume I'm going through to the other side.  It's really bad I felt like Maybe they're like maybe like that's actually perfume. Why did you Those are perfume packets.  That's like That's like almost worse than a hajmola. It's really bad. It's totally different if this is this is more insulting at faster It's like a tea bag A hajmola sneaks up on you and just totally ruins your soul This comes up to you and goes That's invasive. That tastes like grandma perfume. You're right. It tastes like you've been an old woman on the neck Yes, so that plus that it's still there that tastes like an old person together should be the stuff of health You drank my water you sloth.  I don't know. Um, you're on the back of my throat. It smells exactly like it tastes Just like perfume Fennel candy colorful birdseed. Yes Instead of hajmola, we're having another digestive But I think but I don't know. I think these are People have these. I mean my wife loves these.  Yeah She's like, why couldn't I get the butter chicken video? Yeah I kind of like it. No, I do. I like it, but I don't like licorice Yeah, you know what? I'm not a big fan of black licorice and I've had fennel tasting stuff That's actually not bad. Well, it's just fennel. That's just pure fennel. Is it that colorful? Does that come out of the ground like that? Candy fennel. Yeah, so that's the difference. Well, thank you for joining us That was Mostly tasty. Some of it was once again Just terrible That grandma piece was wow garbage. Wow. I was not expecting not at all. Not that bad. It's still in there I feel like my mouth was tainted Yeah with gram Grandma perfume.  I just said tainted and tainted love You know what I'm saying Let us know what we should try. Wow Let us know what we should try next and Follow everybody here on their social media