Don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I find it necessary to warn you You need to know that things are going to get back. It's not going to be the way it is now or the way it was It's not going to get better.   I give you 30 seconds to scream real quick. Get it out to the system I still can't hear you I still can't hear you Come on, Mr. Bucket, the high praise of God be in their mouth, a twig of smoke in their head, shout now Praise the Lord, my brother's a sister, so I got a word I got a prophetic word for you guys today that I want to share with you That the Lord gave me the Lord usually speaks to me and Visuals and it gives me, you know, a way to just show you something So I'm sitting here. I'm praying and it gives me a word I want to share with you guys one of the things that the Lord showed me the Lord showed me this wave guys. I want to Share this dream with you that I had it. God showed me that God put this in my heart this morning Jesus never reached his potential Now I know this is messed with a lot of people theology Warfare is not with flesh. What is your name?  I'm not I'm not exaggerating You need to know it is going to get bad I want you all to think about something for a second if you don't think it's going to get bad I just want you to just kind of think about the trajectory of things Think about how things have just changed just you know what even in our regular lifetime Some of you all are old some of you all remember how we used to um For any of you all who are 40 or 50 or 60 or older Let me ask you guys a question.  But how were you able to hear your favorite song?  You had to push the play button and record button, right? Things have changed just really just even socially Now think about the church think about how the church was even myself. I didn't go to church growing up. I was Listen church and me we weren't that that was not we were not an item. Okay. We didn't see things out I we weren't on speaking terms did he know I did go once or twice though to get some donuts. I do remember that but church was a respected institution The pastor was a respected profession a respected person You didn't walk around the pastor If you want those guys on the corner with your alcohol and your brown paper back as back then they were even more respectful They would have the the alcohol covered up if the if the pastor walked up What would happen take your head off put your brown paper bag behind your back where everybody you're doing, sir If a lady walked about same thing It's changed And so if light the trajectory of life has has gone in a certain direction With it the trajectory of church and how church is conducted I can promise you this what we saw in the intro. Oh, that's what's going to be like More and more.   That's going to be hate speech So that's one battle we're going to have to deal with but even on our own home turf at the church There's another battle to deal with that's just Biblical normalcy will change what will be normal then Will be the outrageous thing 10 20 years ago That's what's going to happen You guys you guys probably said no no no no no no, but we're going to look at some scriptures and we're going to see that Again, look at how the tides are turning think about this Think about the denominations that are exploding The charismatic and Pentecostal Denominations those are the ones that are growing Think about doctrine Think about what we used to hold to as sound just orthodox teaching That's going by the wayside whatever you held as sound teaching it's going to drop Whatever you hold or you think is heresy it's going to increase That's the fact and so Some of the teachings that you hear some people espousing Well, that's one way you can just tell they're on the wrong side of history in the wrong side of heaven because That was never normal. But anyway, one of the things you're going to see definitely is this I would predict i'm not a prophet. So i'm just predicting the the lord has not told me this but I would venture to guess That probably at least Maybe at least what do you guys think maybe half of the preachers in america Half of the pastors are going to be women Do you all agree with that sentiment you're going to see pastors Such as pastor beth more And as plain as day god put a picture in my mind of a metro Bus stop in houston and I jotted down on a note what I felt like god was saying he didn't talk to me out loud I felt it in my spirit. I jotted down on a piece of paper. Take money with you I will show you who to give it to I mean, you know, and I thought that morning What if I'm making this up and I thought well, you know, what so what he's not gonna despise me because I thought I Understood him to say so and so So she says it doesn't matter if if if I made it up.  So yeah, I think he will be a little bit bothered But that being said, let me just let you all know that each and every last clip that you are going to see Is going to be absolutely silly Is going to I just think it's just done It's just some some absolutely moronic things are going to come out of these people's mouths But this is going to be the mainstream If it isn't the mainstream already I I haven't decided maybe you all can tell me what you think but what is Mainstream christianity we and we know there's a difference between those who are actual christians Those that heaven has recognized as christian and those that are here on earth that I just call themselves christian And so I'm trying to figure out. I haven't figured out at least internally What is mainstream is the mainstream that that we just saw and more the foolishness or The sound stuff I don't know I'm starting to lean towards thinking that the mainstream christianity or mainstream church The mainstream branch of christianity or though and again those that call themselves christian We know that everybody that calls himself a christian is not a christian All right, but in the mainstream The beth moors and and the lady pastors and so forth People like oh the new bishop the new anointed serena jakes will say about the woman What does the bible say about the woman honey and genesis 3 and 15 after ease has it Eating from the forbidden fruit.  That's just she called she literally called his heel her heel referring to jesus as a her Again everything that you're going to hear none of this stuff is going to be smart None of this stuff is going to be intelligent None of this stuff is going to that they're going to say out their mouth is going to be remotely biblical But here's the problem though. Here's the problem Every last one of these clips also even though we see how foolish they are They have been accepted by people in their church and of going the outside And someone's going to say to us if we try to correct them or raise our hand objection Who are you to say? Who are you to judge? How do you know that who are you to say who god can't use all these little things like that? Who are you to say those things? And so That's the fight We're going to see it'd be one thing if all we had to do was fight the world But we're going to have to fight our own people people that that say that they're our part of our family Thank you more and I appreciate that people who say That they are believers They're going to be ones that we're going to fight with more because isn't it sad that even the world recognized wolves But the body that is supposed to have the holy spirit doesn't recognize wolves Isn't that something now? There is one thing that the world does want though the world is okay with and more and more increasingly the church is And that is this acceptance of the lgbtq community into the church and even and even letting them coming in and Use a church and to play church and every time I say covenant you say an agreement between us and gods We are gathered here for coming out sunday May the words of my mouth and the meditations of all of our hearts be acceptable to you. Oh god See it's gotten to the point to where nothing shocks us anymore We see something it's almost like I kind of expected to happen I kind of expect to see something silly something stupid something foolish something more and more Something that's pushing us more and more past the limits that we thought was reasonable As a matter of fact what's happening is this it's going to get Can I give you guys a scary thought? Let me give you guys a scary a scary thought t.i.m. Thank you. Let me give you a scary thought Stephen furtick Is going to be close more closely associated with normals He'll be more like the normal than what we're going to see We're going to wish for the days man If we can just have more sound teaching for people like steven furtick, right? That's how that's how bad it's going to get we're going to go in the scriptures in a little bit We're going to show you the scriptures. I'm not just this is just me just making this up or giving my my thoughts but How bad is it when steven furtick is the one more closer to orthodoxy?  I know what what makes my audience feels good That's I know my bible might say differently. I get that I I understand it But it's all gone. The people need to hear a word. They need to hear not just a word from heaven They need to hear a word that's going to tickle them They need to hear something that's going to just make them feel good Something's going to make them not just feel good make them feel good about me Yep, you got to make I got to make them feel good about me. I got to make them buy my cds You know what I said cds like I'm you can tell I'm not I'm up there. Do they even have cds anymore? Tape deck consists make them buy my uh my my what do they have now my my my downloads Buy my books and so forth. Yeah, they need to buy into me Now what did jesus say? Let's let's go to a couple of pastors before we get into some more of these people You ate tracks just Let's go to a couple of these jesus says in matthew 24 11 he says and many false prophets will arise and lead many straight Now do you think that jesus is saying this just because no jesus means that many false prophets will arise and he says will lead Many a straight I don't know what many is but many is a lot Many false prophets will lead people astray It's gonna happen Now we're gonna talk about why i'm even bringing because there's a reason why i'm bringing i'm not just Putting this out and just say hey y'all it's gonna get bad. Oh, I'm not. I'm not just being the bear of bad news There's a reason why I am bringing this up But for those who may think that not of course, I think you're you're exaggerating. I think you know And it's not gonna yet is yet is again jesus says so what else does jesus say jesus this is jesus again We've covered this before guys All right, just in case you didn't know I didn't write the scriptures Someone else did Under the inspiration of the holy spirit And then doing so they happened to catch some of the words that jesus wrote Look what he says again also in mark 13 verse 22. He says for false Christ and false prophets will arise and perform Signs and wonders to lead astray if possible the let look what he says though, but be on guard I have told you all things Before hand he's saying listen guys. It's gonna be it's gonna get bad. It is going to get bad But see I've told you this ahead of time Well, we didn't know if it's bad. Well, did you read your bible now? We know the heretics out there They're not reading their bibles or they're just glossing over but for us. It's in the scriptures. He's warning us. He's letting us know is Now before we get to it. I want to ask you guys. Why do you think he's warning us? He says be on guard. See, I've told you beforehand. Why do why do you think so? There's a reason why he's warning but also notice what he says though something's kind of kind of frightful He says that they will perform signs and Wonders they will perform signs and Wonders now Signs aren't necessary miracles.   I've got perks. I've got benefits I got all kinds of things going to come your way Let me also have some some some things performed at your hand that I can do that that heaven has allowed me to do Because the devil still does have some power. He has not been stripped of his power, right?  Fertick Or how about you mr. Rogers or how about you, uh, mr. Osteen? Let me just give you now not really hosting because he's not really into the powers He's just into the smile the jail the makeup So we'll just give you an extra box of avid and and and and olay and whatever else for you Osteen But for everyone else, how about we just help you perform a few little things a matter of fact I've got a few demons that can work with you. How about that? Because that's what's gonna happen Jesus is letting us know as a matter of fact the bible tells us how we cover this before how god had even allowed the false prophets Of old to perform these signs do these things and even to give them gave them a word to give So that he can test them and lead away Uh, the the ones that really aren't legitimate that's gonna happen He's gonna test a lot of people and I can promise you More people will fail the test then we'll pass the test. It's gonna happen But jesus says be on guard. See i've told you all these things beforehand Now he makes this little statement about jesus not being able to do anything Jesus could do what he wants to with or without your faith most people that he a lot of people that he healed Did not have faith But again, that's him that's him giving himself an hour The reason why things aren't happening the way I told you they should because of your faith But it's not just him. There are people that will sound and seem like they that sounds like something That sounds educated There are people who are heretics who don't have a heretic sound to them What I mean by that is they sound refined reform. They sound almost educated They sound like they know what they're talking about one such person who I believe and maybe he does have a genuine heart But his understanding of scriptures is off. That's this person David Hernandez Listen to what he says about the holy spirit. You you all see if you catch it just he's going to say it immediately Did you hear that Let me play it again. Maybe you didn't catch it Holy spirit The holy spirit is the mind of christ He said the holy spirit is the mind of christ Wait a second. Wait a second Because I must have missed that. Yeah, let me see Well, yeah Yeah, let me see Mind of christ mind of You know, I don't know where that is I don't know where that is in my bible I I'm going to do a deep dive into the scriptures and see if I can find that but The holy spirit is the mind of christ But notice Everybody's got their hand up Their eyes closed Head back They are so called in the spirit Or they're looking for it But I pay attention He could have said whatever he could have did whatever And they're like, yes, because it sounds spiritual. It sounds good And you want to ask them, David, what in the world did you just say? What what no, maria? I know I won't I won't find it. I won't find it But maybe if I take if I tear some pages out and cut some some verses And put some verses from here put them over here and move this down here Put a little math in the character one move the key over here replace it with a r Aura it down in south an asshole How do you come up with that?  Because that didn't come from heaven didn't come from the bible. You are literally saying something demonic It'd be one thing to say something demonic if you're speaking in these fake tongues But you're saying something demonic in english Wow Wow He's the omniscience of god This means that the mind of god the nature of god the power of god the will of god The intentions of god in the earth all of it is searched Understood comprehended incompletion by the holy ghost I'll let you go back and listen to this again on your own, but nothing that he said made sense This this And people say quarry. That's a person who is who is an intelligent person He's not like the Sid Ross. He's not like the benny hens. He's not like the yes. He is Yes, he is Ignorance and stupidity is the same no matter if you say it loudly or softly There's a reason why these people do not come and talk to people like myself other folks who are trying to let's say Let's just look at the scriptures There's a reason why not that i'm somebody special But anyone that's going to hold their feet to the biblical fire They don't want that where they will go is other channels other places where they can have aid and comfort And so they can get away with that because it sounds good Who that just tickled me that just that that that was wonderful So here we've got one guy who's messed up about Jesus that is ferdy Who might be the most sound of that's again mind blowing. He is probably You know what? Yeah, he's he's the most sound of all of these people. That's the scary thing And then you've got david or nandes who is just messing up the holy spirit And then we've got my good friend from up north in chicago The guy with the university the the seminary of the college um the graduate jethro bowdeen himself Marcus rogers and his statement about The trinity now the this is his mouth. These are his statements. You listen to what he's saying God already had jesus the son in mind um So even though he wasn't a eternal being it was more that he was an eternal thought because god was all knowing I never denied the where where does it say that the sun was a person? We read we read in first pier 120 that he was always eternal, but he was a thought in god's mind Even though he manifested himself in the sun just like he manifested part of himself in the bush There was when he was in the bush He was still in heaven when he was in the sun on the cross He was still in heaven. It's the same exact thing when the holy spirit was in Mary the the father He was still in heaven always won but able to take uh If a human being if I can take my arm and cut my arm off and throw it over there. Why can't god do that? I'm sorry marcus. I'm not laughing at you Yes, I am I'm I can't lie. I'm laughing at you because If If I can't take if we first of all what a human being you know is taking his arm off and throwing over there, but but god would do the Okay Yeah, but he was an eternal thought God yeah But again again We're not allowed to question him And doing so we don't have the spirit and we don't know how to read our bibles Now the person on this list is probably the second most and this is also scary The second most sound of all of the people Buddy up in Tulsa Good old mike Todd You know when you don't know the bible and you try to get deep and you try to make it seem as though you know the bible And you're trying to find be profound and say hey, I discovered something. Why haven't x y and z? And then someone said mike.  He said in the sermon is still posted why it's up. I don't know but Surely someone has told him That's not in the bible Satan's favorite sin Just say it with me gluttony How many people by show of hands have ever heard a full message on gluttony in the comments Why in the world If this is one of the seven deadly sins Have us some of us being in church for four and five decades Never heard a complete sunday morning message on gluttony Somebody get a message to him. Let him know about gluttony and the seven deadly said just let him know Let him know Some and somebody's like, well, what's the problem? Well, I tell you what just go google it And and just google the seven deadly sin one see where it came from But he's a pastor he's got thousands and thousands of people that are under his pastorship locally that he's supposed to be shepherding and then Tens of thousands of people that are watching maybe hundreds of thousands people that are watching it and listen to them And they don't understand someone said wait, it's like I've got I've got to address this Someone says why the hate on marcus riders don't hate on marcus riders We're upset with marcus riders for his hate against the scriptures Marcus riders has given to at least no three prophecies three failed prophecies My question is to anyone out there and by the way, we're gonna do this. This is gonna be kind of neat Because people say why am I a false prophet? Why am I a false teacher? There are people that have been asked them. So why are they calling me marcus's asset question? Pagani has asked that question. Isaiah has asked that question. Also, you know what I want to do I'm going to just give them here's example one two three four five six seven eight nine ten Now marcus riders has said that he has heard from god In the opening trailer he talks about how often he hears from god Well, did he hear from god when god told him trump's gonna win? But that trumps up his dad. Cory quit rehashing it again Tell him apologize for it. Tell him to repent for it. Tell him to stop saying he's hearing from god The second one was when he said that also likened to it that that biden would not be in the white house Okay, that goes along with the trump prophecy. Then he also stated that a certain person Did not and has never spoken in tongues and first says yeah, I did you should have asked me that And a few other prophets we won't get into the fact that he butchers the scriptures The fact that he has no idea no clue of the identity of god Did you hear what he just said you asked why are we hating on marcus riders?  We know what happened when he did it with another person who ended up drowning marcus rogers Has said that we ought to try the spirit by the spirit that's past the marcus riders But the bible didn't say try the spirit by the spirit marcus rogers believes that the word omnipotent and omniscient are both in the bible But marcus riders believes that if I put my faith in christ And allow someone to baptize me in water, which is a good thing If he the person is baptizing me says the wrong formula the wrong word over me, then i'm not saved That's heresy So you want to know what we have against marcus rogers those few things Just just a just a few things Not much just a few things and so I'm not saying so again And if you want to understand what we're talking about water baptism go back and watch the videos that i've done On water baptism. I just I just did one just a few days ago And so no you don't have to be water baptized to be saved Water baptism is fine, but not for salvation. And so but think about it though Mike Todd is the second most sound person marcus riders is opening is opening a college That's scary also and folks are going to go to this college and Um feel like they've learned something then you've got other people who are because you know, we're going to find we're going to find a lot of a lot of real Affeminate men In the pulpit going to find that out Now I've covered this guy before but I think I think it I think it It's worth repeating just to play one of the all-time Dumbest things ever uttered out of a preacher's mouth Ever uttered out of a preacher's mouth and that's by our good friend who now has a perm Now looking like superfly The apostle doctor matthew stevens Genesis 2 7 now Keep this verse in mind Let's reflect once upon a time God when walking through the garden and said this Be fruitful have dominion over every creeping thing that creep it over the earth Do this do this rain subdue all of the things god told adam to do. Do you know the greatest problem with that? You know the most powerful issue with that Do you know the most Profound challenge with that adam did not Have a body through the research God's instructions to adam came before genesis 2 7. He said rule have dominion be fruitful multiply He said that to something with no ears Something without a physical frame Now after you pick your your chin up Because it just fell open after he says adam didn't have a body The part that's really funny is when he says do the research It's obvious do the research go back and Okay, so let's just read and of course we cover this we won't go over it again But Again guys, this is our future for the church While i'm giving you the bad news i'm going to give you some good news But also give you some some some fighting instructions Hey, man now I didn't cover this But you also need to know that the future of the church is going to include The reawakening the dawning The reemergence Of apostles and prophets If you go to a church and your church is not ran by an apostle or prophet something's going to be wrong with your church in the future If your church isn't ran by an apostle a prophet a woman an effeminate man Someone who's casting out demons and there's something wrong with your church That's what's what's going to happen now How they became an apostle doesn't really matter they could Be self-proclaimed someone can lay their hands on it whatever But now are they legitimate apostles? No, because again all of these apostles all these prophets not not one Escapes having bad doctrine all of them. I have never met one apostle on planet One self-proclaimed apostle who does not have bad doctor not one Not one and I haven't met an apostle who is willing to talk with someone um Who has sound doctrine about their apostleship? Now they'll talk to each other And they'll talk about the people who are talking to them And there's a problem see the problem is We are going into a time where it's going to be Bad and we are going to be told no no Leave them alone as a matter of fact as a matter of fact Not just leave them alone, but let's just let's just think happy thoughts Let's just be let listen. Let's just be team joy Team happy team smile Let's all look for the best. Let's not tell people how bad they are Where they're in sin. Let's not tell people what's wrong with them. Let's not tell let's not let's not be judgmental Let's only talk about the good. Let's talk about kittens and poodles rainbows and lollipops That's it That's it. Not gonna talk about hell We may talk a little bit about heaven because we're all going to heaven Long as we're smiling and who's leading the charge for us smiling all the way to uh heaven supposedly Smiling Joe the spirit of the lord is upon me to declare the year of god's favor To announce freedom to the captives the recovery of sight to the blind good news to the poor Isaiah went around declaring favor freedom victory All those that would receive it those that would let those words take root would see it come to And so that's what's going to happen. I'm I'm I heard you. I'm gonna somebody told me put it on slow mode I'll put it on slow mode but That's that's what's happening. We are supposed to smile while we are letting people go to hell um Without defending the gospel No Because necessarily speaking the gospel also has to tell what people are saying from but we can't tell them that they're saying from hell Because to do so we have to let them know about their sin Can't do that can't do that now. I want to let you all know something though This is something that jesus says even though jesus warned us about how bad it's going to get Jesus did also give this comforting warning. I mean this comforting statement. He says when asked who do you say I am He says you are the christ He says bless are you simon bar jonah for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you But my father was in heaven.    Oh by the way This is what he means by this great falling away the people who claim and who name But who aren't really believers in christ who aren't really possessed by christ They're possessed by something else And so you're going to see this this falling way you're going to see more and more people More and more people who had previously named the name of christ Now apparently walking away And people are going to say well, yeah, they these are real legitimate genuine christians who walk no No, they just said they were and they walked away You know, I got on the court a couple times that I can play some basketball and walked away Because what I said and what I was two different things Same thing with these believers But this is a day and age where you can say what you want to say You can out of your mouth profess to be what you want to be I can I'm a woman for the day I identify as a woman. I identify as a reindeer. I identify as whatever that's what's happening And so the same thing is happening in the church now Not just Um, are we supposed to smile and not say anything? Have you noticed this?  We're leading people to hell Can someone help me make make sense of that by the way can also someone help me make sense of what this guy's going through What was it? He is literally being he went through his own transfiguration He would there was a metamorphosis that happened in tide white I don't know if he grew up around some some Jamaicans or what? Uh, or some and some mountain men's some Jamaican mountain men's because he's got that Jamaican Mountain man look going like a Jamaican bike and I don't know what the deal is right there, but It's distracting It's distracting anyway, but so we can read the bible.  Just doesn't even brother you look like Yeah, okay. I'll leave it alone but Your spiritual because you say you're spiritual and we look at the scriptures and say well That's not what the bible says that the bible doesn't say that Then you can't be spiritual Because to be spiritual would be to come from the holy spirit And if what you're doing in line with the holy spirit, then there's no way you can be spiritual. See what i'm saying tot There's no way But we're wrong because remember more and more people are going are going to attack us for calling out sin Nonsense foolishness. They're going to attack us. We're in the wrong When all the while we didn't come to you Asking you to show us or say anything you came to us You wanted us to see you wanted us to glorify you You wanted us to look and see look how wonderful you are with your fake leg lengthening routines and so forth And with your fake demon cast now and also like you wanted to show us something and we rejected it It was like wait a second. Where's the scripture and we asked nicely Every last one of these false teachers have been asked nicely their approach nicely And they just run and duck for cover. They run away. Don't want to speak And after a while they just want to stop talking stop asking questions So stop doing what jude said stop defending the gospel But because if we do We're leading people to hell. Well, let me tell you where their teachings come from Glad you asked paul says To timothy in first timothy 4 1 now the spirit expressly says that in the latter time some will depart from the faith By devoted themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons These these teachings literally come from the devil These teachings literally come from the devil Now he tells us something though and this is why I'm saying this to you This is the reason why I want you to be alert Not me because again, we've already discussed this We've already covered this I didn't write the bible right I'm just repeating what the persons the people who were led by the spirit wrote what they said We're to be on guard as jesus says and be ready see i've told you these things beforehand And then paul comes back and he says he says something that's that's For this day. He says in second timothy chapter 4 He said let's start in verse 2 preach the word Be ready in season and out of season I'm not necessarily the smartest person in the world But when you say in season and out of season that seems to cover all of the time So be ready all the time right then he says reprove reprove means We disagree and I got to prove to you where you're wrong that is if I got some doctrine and now I'm also willing for you to prove me He says reprove. He also says rebuke That means a person who's in the wrong. We need to say you are wrong We're rebuking them. I know you guys like saying I rebuke you devil. I bind you Satan. I rebuke you Well, we're supposed the people we're supposed to rebuke are the people who are in error Doctrally he says and exhort with complete patience and and teaching You want to know why we stay on this you won't know why now again? We can walk and chew them at the same time But do you know we don't know why we have these teachings these various teachings or whatever But then also cover these guys. Do you know why we keep doing it? Do you know why we should keep doing it? Do you know why if a person makes 35 videos about one of these charlatans makes 40 videos about another charlatan keeps calling him out Look what he just said he said With complete patience and teaching with all long suffering Keep it up. Keep doing it. Keep doing it. Keep doing it. Keep doing it. Keep doing it Again When do you stop calling out sin of someone? When do you stop calling out bad doctor when they stop having bad doctor when they stop sending when they stop doing those things? That's when you do it That's when you let them off the hook When they stop doing these things when they're stopped when they stop attacking people with their bad They stop harming the body That's when When when did paul stop? Let's see when paul stopped because it looked to me like paul went down fighting He says for the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching But having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions They will have itching ears and so they will find teachers to suit their own passion We don't find somebody's going to tell me I got a car coming my way That the lord's going to bless me that the lord wants the best thing for me Because again, when was the last time you heard one of these fake guys give a prophecy over someone that was negative The lord told me to tell you that he's going to take you in two days We don't hear that no instead the lord told me that your best is ahead of you He is going to burst something you've been laboring people been behind been against you and all those folks you thought were your friends Have left you that's what the lord that first of all everybody has that as a testimony How many of you guys have somebody in your background? How many of you all can raise your hands and say you know what I got some friends that left me that portrayed me Well, we all that's that's life From from the time that we first had some friends in kindergarten all the way up somebody turned their back on us That's just how it is. So that's a pretty easy prophecy The lord told me that somebody's got blood in their body The lord told me that somebody has some white blood cells in the the lord told me that someone has a heartbeat Just silly things, right? You think I'm being facetious. That's what they're saying So he says keep doing a look with pa look look at paul as our example. He says They have these itching ears. He says so in verse 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth And wonder off into myths Now let me ask you guys a question. See what I try to do sometimes I try to say well Am I on the right side of the wrong side? And I try to imagine myself as I'm the guy that they say that we are We're the Pharisees. We're the ones that are rejecting with well, we're not the ones that are presuming to speak for god So we've got that in our corner. They are So false prophets will presume to speak for god Well, you can't be a false prophet if you've never presumed or stated that I'm speaking for god So the only people that can be a cat that can be Have the ability to fit this criteria whether they do or don't are the folks that are saying they're speaking for god The people that are actually trying to do these little signs and wonders these miracles Jesus says that there they'll be the ones that are going to put these false signs up He's not speaking about the people who are not exhibiting these signs. So it can't be again But it was well for me. I'm not part of that camp. You guys aren't part of that camp putting up signs and this and that and That's not us Whether it's right or wrong We're not guilty of doing it the wrong way because we're not doing it And then he says look what he says let's go back to it He says we'll turn away from listening to the truth They never accuse us of not listening or reading the word do they? They're their accusation towards us is that we're not listening to the spirit. Our accusation for them is that you're not listening to the word Because I'm trying to find the scriptures where the bible tells us that you're going to go to hell for not being as in tune to the spirit As you're supposed to But you are listening and telling to the word We don't have such scriptures. Do we so let's continue. Look what paul says. He says as for you Always be so wait. I'm sober-minded Always be sober-minded. That means having some control That means having some understanding That means i'm not losing control That's what that means That's what that means I see some commotion going on in the chat. I may I may want to get in i'm having a little fun right now He says always be sober-minded endure. Look what he says endure suffering Look at this last part do the work of an evangelist fulfill your ministry Meaning that our work whatever our work is going to be whatever it is I don't care if it's singing if it's sowing whatever it is It's going to be evangelistic in nature meaning that it's to draw people to the body people of christ now Look what he says paul says for I am already being poured out as a drink offering And the time of my departure has come but paul hadn't stopped fighting I have fought the good fight out. I have finished the race. I have kept the faith Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of Righteousness wish the lord the righteous judge will award me on that day and not only me but uh-oh But all who have loved his appearing That should be us That should be us all of us who have loved as a matter of fact not just love his appearance Is appearing but even loved his word until his appearing That should be us. Look what he says though Now he's writing this way says when you come back to me verse 13 Bring the quote that I left with carpus at troas also bring the books and all the and the above Above all the parchment. I want to do some reading alexander the coppersmith Did me great harm the lord will pay him according to his deeds be aware of him yourself for he strongly opposed our message Wait a minute. You mean tell me here paul is on his not on his deathbed, but he sees the right on the wall Thank you. Doug is right. He sees the writing on the wall He sees I'll I'll answer question a second. He sees the writing on the wall. I'm getting ready.   I didn't write this See if my glass my glass is working right. He says he says beware yourself of alexander For he did me much harm the lord will pay him according to his deeds He says beware of him guys look out for this guy for he strongly opposed my message He strongly opposed my message That's paul saying so and so This is gonna happen We're gonna fight We're gonna get bloody We're gonna even and here's the thing go guys. We are going to look bad. Let's keep reading He says verse 17 the lord stood by me and strengthened me So that through me the message might be fully proclaimed And all the Gentiles might hear it So I was rescued from the lion's mouth The lord will rescue me from every evil deed and bring me safely into his heavenly kingdom To him be glory forever and ever amen now paul's making this statement though He's getting ready to be put to death so he's not necessarily rescuing him from every physical danger But paul is going to have this glory put up on him not god's sort of glory But he's going to be rewarded for what he's done for his faithfulness And so keep fighting Keep fighting.  Well, I said it enough. No as long as there's As long as someone is committing the crime and we go ahead and report it see something say something We'll keep doing that Again, that's the mandate that paul has Keep doing it keep doing it keep fighting. Let me answer this question. Douglas says I agree with you But what can we do in the future when magic comes back and they work miracles and then they're willing to talk to you How can we pull believers away from the evil the same way that that's done in the scriptures? The same way just the word Just the word like like friday Just the word just the fact ma'am just the word that's that's all we got And there are going to be times where it looks like us giving just the word is not matching them With all the trinkets all the things they can give It it's not a problem. That's not our issue. Our job is to give the word Just get things out finds out just give the word give the word And if the devil has more on his team than god has on his so so Because we'll go down knowing that we gave what we're supposed to give we did what we're supposed to do And the lord won't be upset at us For them not listening god is not going to be upset for them not listening to our words Now he will be upset with us for not giving our word That's something that everyone needs to hear. He will be will not be upset with you for them not heeding your word But he will be upset with you for you not giving the word Do not stand in the marketplace and hear sin Hear heresy and be the one They're not gonna listen to me. It doesn't matter.  What should you say? That's why I'm waiting. I am so waiting They got they got to do it. This is this is the fourth largest metropolitan area in the nation the dfw area The fourth largest right behind Chicago in front of houston So at some point in time these demons players got to come to Dallas I'm going unless I have something that's already reserved Unless I have something scheduled. I can't get around. I'm I'm going I'm and they they're gonna they I probably shouldn't say it because they may I don't want them to have security at the door, but I'm going I will be there with my phone But the camera I want to see every demon to get it matter of fact when they cast the demon out. I'm going to interview the demon Excuse me, mr. Demon Because I should be able to see the demon right I should be if a demon was cast out How do I know the demons cast out? I should be able to see it, right? Or I'll go interview the person that had the demon cast out I'll interview the person that casted demon out I'll give them my middle name.  Why not? Why not? He said why am I telling you on myself because I don't think they're smart if you even catch it. I really don't I'm just Yep, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be like the heat rays lights. I'm gonna I'm gonna blitz them I want to blitz. I swear to you give me a microphone Or to give me a microphone and give me my get my uh, my son-in-law and have them be like the guy that reads the scriptures I can see them jumping on us and beating us up though. So I won't do that But I will I will go to them and confront them and just ask them questions Because I want to know why are you doing these things that are clearly against scriptures And why is that you won't even answer anybody? Why are you leading people down this troubled path? And why are you enriching yourself? I'm not asking for dollars. Yes, you are Yes, you are but ladies and gentlemen for you guys Paul gave us our marching orders Jesus gave us the warning He also gave us a comfort and then Paul gives us the marching orders of what's going to happen He tells us to fight Some of us are going to be successful in our fights. We're going to win some battles We're going to lose some battles.  I this is where I want to see if you're brave This is where I want to see if you if you have some Something about you. This is where we're going to see your spiritual backbone Yeah, this is where I want to see if there's now And I don't know how how quickly it's going to get to where we come a nation where we are persecuted Who knows maybe it will happen before I die. I don't know But We shouldn't be persecuted by other Christians in the church So we should fight that fight And we should have enough concern enough love for our fellow brothers who are in this struggle Who just simply don't know who have been ensnared and hooked by these demons These um possessed people We need to be willing to go and rescue them and if they don't want to come hey Hey, amen. We tried we did our job one one plants another waters But in the end ultimately god gives the increase. Amen


Hello, everybody. This is the session for SIG cloud provider, the cloud provider being the part of Kubernetes that is an abstraction layer so that Kubernetes can really be cloud native hosting things that are portable regardless of what Kubernetes is actually running on. We've got three presenters today. We'll start, I don't know, in the order on the left. So Chris. Hi, I'm Chris Hodge and I am a strategic program manager for the OpenStack Foundation and I'm one of the co-leads of SIG cloud provider and I'm also a co-lead on SIG OpenStack. I'm Steve Wong. I'm not an official leadership position of SIG cloud provider but I do work in SIG VMware that does the cloud provider for running Kubernetes on top of VMware infrastructure. I work for VMware. I've been active in Kubernetes dating back to 2015 but back in that era it was, I was mostly active in storage and I'm also active in the IoT and Edge working group. Hi, I'm Walter Fender. I work for Google. I'm one of the TLs on SIG cloud provider and I've been leading the effort to extract the entry cloud providers from Kubernetes Kubernetes so that all of the cloud providers can be working on an equal footing. And Walter's modest but he also has a lot to do with API machinery which is the Kubernetes API and also the controller that runs the cloud provider and maybe a few other things. So the agenda today we're going to get a little bit into as background the historical context of how the cloud provider started and it turns out that the cloud provider started one way but it's moving in a slightly different direction and we're going to tell you why it's changing and how it's changing. And finally we're going to close with a description of how this SIG cloud provider SIG actually works just in case you want to get involved with the activity or learn even if you're not actively involved how you can go find the historical record of the agenda that is how decisions got made and maybe look at some YouTube videos because sometimes that kind of context can help you understand what's going on. So the mission of SIG cloud provider is to manage to allow Kubernetes to run in a way that's neutral to all public and private cloud providers. You have public cloud providers you know what those are but what a private cloud provider means is kind of running on prem on various forms of infrastructure whether it be hypervisors things like OpenStack and potentially even bare metal. And we're responsible for establishing the standards and requirements that have to be met by all of these providers to have an optimal user experience. So background for these things that this group owns are those tips there. I'm not going to summarize them here because they're really detailed but we'll have a link to this deck at the end and I think the SCED site has already a PDF of this deck where you can find those links and look at them later. The origin story for cloud providers are and still the case as of 114 that all of these abstraction layers for eight very popular things to host Kubernetes on are like integrated into the very fabric of Kubernetes itself. Seemed like a good idea when Kubernetes was getting started to make it convenient to where you could just deploy it and it just works but just like they say in Kubernetes being a host of microservices monolithic isn't always good and bundling in these things by default had some issues. What were the issues? Well you know really Kubernetes should be an orchestration layer managing only the standardized parts not the thorny aspects of unique that are unique to any particular deployment pattern. People also came to the conclusion that inclusion of these things could constitute an endorsement of a particular platform. The Kubernetes project doesn't want to be a kingmaker coming up with the specific list of what's authorized and not. The other issues are that by bundling in this code it became very tightly coupled. So suppose let's take an instance where there's a bug that affects one particular cloud provider just in the interest of fairness I'll hypothetically suggest it's the company I work for. There's a bug in the VMware implementation security issue and we need to get it patched right away. Well if that code is in tree we have to cut a full Kubernetes release pass all the tests to get out out there and that slows the release time. You really don't want that to happen unless there's a really good reason to tightly couple it like now. There's a lot of value in not having coupled release cycles. It also allows independent releases to these if one particular cloud provider came out with some fancy feature because they changed something in a particular public cloud might give them the option to enable that without waiting for a Kubernetes release cycle. So there is both problems and opportunities that can be solved by taking cloud providers out of tree. So I'll turn it over at this point to Chris. Okay so with the same stage set we want to understand how can we fix the cloud providers for everybody. You know and this includes both the providers who are in tree and the providers who are out of tree. To start on that so there are two major things that we have to do. The first is that you need to make a way to have all of the cloud providers be out of tree and then once you have accomplished that and set that stage then you can start taking out the cloud providers out of tree and then everybody has their own provider. You have experts who are maintaining that code and you've kind of achieved that level playing field. So we started by for all of the supported in tree providers the provider code has been officially deprecated and their dependencies are being moved to staging and Walter has been one of the key people who have been working on this effort and you know I'm really driving it forward because he has such a strong expertise in the Kubernetes code base and how to disentangle all of those tightly coupled resources into what we call the Kubernetes staging staging directory what would you call that yeah staging subdirectory that where we can say that these are APIs that external that providers depend upon and they won't change. With the in tree providers moved to staging after the upcoming release they will have a path through and removed in the following release. So our goal is that by the end of 2019 there's going to be no in tree provider code all of that will be gone and so if you are running a cloud provider and you you have tree you have code that's in tree I think OpenStack is a good example of this because you're more likely to be running your own OpenStack code you should be thinking about migrating from using what shifts of Kubernetes to what to what ships from you know the individual provider and then finally any un-maintained provider code is going to be removed entirely and so we just Kubernetes just had its next release a few last week I guess was when that happened and then we should be removing that code in during this release cycle yeah I think the dead code is going to be moving out I think he went back I went back okay so for the out-of-tree providers we want to introduce the cloud controller manager so the cloud controller manager replaces the cube controller manager and is a daemon that embeds the following cloud specific controllers the node controller the route controller and the service controller now if you're familiar with the Kubernetes code base you might be thinking where does where does my volume controller go and to kind of help explain that I'll take over here because I've been active in SIG storage so for the exactly the same reasons why it made sense to get the cloud provider abstraction layer going down to the actual compute infrastructure out of tree same rule applied to storage there were 30 plus storage plugins in kubernetes I think it's even more than that if you counted the flex drivers and they were tightly coupled and on the same release cycle as kubernetes more and more storage solutions were coming to to try to jump in the pool and it just became probably even more unmanageable than it was with cloud providers when it got up to 30 some any one of which could have bugs holding up a release and because of this kubernetes moved to an architecture called the container storage interface now unlike the cloud provider the container storage interface is cross container orchestrator so this is an industry standard that supports not just kubernetes but apache mesos cloud foundry docker and potentially other orchestrators so it starts with a vendor doing an implementation of a csi plugin and then kubernetes has a new interface to use the external storage plugin now it turns out that this is coupled to the external cloud provider because I believe it's fair to say that every person doing a maintaining a cloud provider elected that when we transition out of tree on the cloud provider we don't want to engage in this ugly test matrix of testing external cloud provider with internal storage and again with external storage and ending up with this grid of things that you have to support so a decision got made by everybody I don't know if there ever was an official statement but practically speaking if you go to an external cloud provider you're going to have to go to external an external csi based storage plugin as well yeah and for more on that we're not going to cover that here because the storage sig owns that and they've had sessions that got recorded at past kube cons as recently as a month ago so go look at the videos and fly decks for those to learn more but but but it is worth mentioning though that if you are looking for a csi driver and you will there's a good chance that you will find it with the cloud provider code for for a particular vendor so keep that in mind when you know when you're thinking about the you know the storage controllers that they often wind up in the same place yeah especially if the csi driver is specific to the cloud provider so csi gets interesting because there are two flavors there are going to be things like amazon's ebs csi driver and then something like you know a just a local file system driver which is also csi and so those will be found in different places and for the one where you're going to land in an on-prem scenario typically the if you're running on a hypervisor it will have a bundled csi but you're really free to use a bunch of others potentially too that have nothing to do with that hypervisor so it is entirely possible to use many csi plug-ins at the same time and there are perhaps use cases where it's a smart thing to do right and it all speaks to the reason my csi wasn't included directly within the cloud provider. I'll just put in one more tidbit for migration when you go from in tree to out of tree right now on storage the migration story isn't necessarily fully fully bank the plan long term with the storage thing is to go replace the entry storage plug-ins which are all still in there with stub code that will call out to the csi implementation but right now that hasn't been done so just be advised that that is a consideration if you're engaged in migration and if you've already got working previously created persistent volumes it may or may not be straightforward to do that migration to go from the entry to the out of tree it's I think fair to say it's potentially plug-independent and you should look to the authors of that plug-in for advice on how to handle that back to you Chris. Okay so we're going to spend a little bit more of this talk discussing the nuts and bolts of how you build your own cloud provider because because this is you know this is important if you're providing your cloud service or you want to be involved in the development of someone else's cloud provider you know it's important to understand this process so the first step is you need to write a package that will satisfy the cloud provider interface the next step is to create a copy of the cloud controller manager main.go and import your package and so you're taking the package that implements the interface and you're wrapping it inside of an executable that is common amongst all the cloud providers and initializes you know it has an init block that loads your provider code and then finally you go through the work of publishing which means building testing you know you know building it testing the your code works both through you know integration testing as well as functional testing packaging it inside of a container so that you can launch it as an application and maintaining it and supporting your and supporting your customers we're going to be consuming this cloud provider so at a high level to build the out-of-treak provider you need to implement the cloud provider interface and there are several interfaces that you have to implement and you may not actually implement all of them if your cloud doesn't provide one of these then every one of these has an optional flag to say that you don't support that and the cloud controller manager will ignore it and so this includes the load balancer interface so cloud specific ingress controllers is covered by this instances which is cloud specific information about nodes within your cluster zones which are cloud specific information about the host availability zones and so if you have a cloud that spans multiple zones you know this gives you a way to handle clusters that are spread across those zones as well as clusters specific clusters which is cloud specific information about the running clusters so if you have multiple clusters running and finally routes and so cloud specific cloud specific information about networking so this is the actual code this is the actual provider that you have to implement and so there's an initializer and then a method that returns you know the true the returns if each of these are set and and an object that is an implementation of that particular interface okay so once you've implemented that provider then you need to build your cloud controller binary so the external cloud controller runs as a separate binary that interacts with the with the Kubernetes API service it's configured with a standard set of options and these can be extended to match the requirements of your cloud and a starting template is provided by the Kubernetes cloud controller manager directory we have a link to that right there and on the next slide we also have just you know again this is we I've cut a little bit of the code out because there's there are a lot of comments there but this is basically the gist of everything that you need to be able to create your binary um so you bring in a number of imports include you know including your cloud provider as well as some optional um you know the permutous client goal plugins and for for metric registration and you basically have a an initializer log so you set your cloud controller manager command initialize the logs and then execute the command and all of your command line options are kind of pulled in and set up beforehand in the cloud controller manager app so it's a great it's a great way to get started you will likely want to have your own configurations on there you might want to pull some of the configurations out to simplify for your users okay once it's built you want to have two types of tests at minimum um the first is unit tests all the appropriate mocks to guarantee your implementation behaves as expected functionally but also importantly when you load the cloud controller manager the kubernetes behavior is going to change to use all the implementations that you have provided and so you want to make sure that kubernetes is behaving exactly the way it's expected to behave and you accomplish this by running the standard end-to-end tests with the provider enabled on the instance of your cloud for full integration and conformance testing and then once you've done this you want to enable release gating against your cloud and so this has to be implemented um so so both have to be implemented and you need to run the end-to-end testings and these have to be reported to test grid if you've done this and you can demonstrate that you that you're that your particular cloud um has um has implemented these tests and also has a critical mass of users then your cloud can become um like these tests will become gating for the kubernetes release and we'll give you kubernetes certified status right which is yeah and the key is that even though they they're moved out of tree so they're not part of kubernetes it's possible that somebody made a change to kubernetes itself that broke it when running on your cloud even if your cloud provider is fully compliant and passes all your tests and we want to know about that okay so finally once you've built your cloud provider then you want to run it and so to accomplish this there are a few things that you have to do when you start your kubernetes server where previously you would say cloud provider in the name of your cloud provider instead you specify cloud provider external then when you start start your ccm binary you set the cloud provider flag to be the name of your cloud provider and the and then the cloud config flag to the plat to the path of your cloud configuration now the similarity similarity the similarity in options comes from the scaffolding code um the cost of this is that there are a lot of unneeded options that you are being pulled over to the cloud provider and this is uh there's actually an issue that is actually pretty old by now but it's still something that i think longer term that the uh sig cloud provider should be looking at addressing and one quick note um the cloud provider external is actually a flag that not only the cube api server but the kcm the cube controller manager and the kubelet also need that flag set yeah yeah they all need to be aware that they're that that that the uh that the um that the cloud integrations are being handled by an external provider in an external binary okay so when you're running in production use a daemon set this is why they were made um and your cluster will behavior will change in a few ways um notably specifying cloud insider cloud provider external will add a taint to node dot cloud provider dot kubernetes dot io uninitialized the effect of this will be that there will be a no schedule during initialization and so the assumption is is that that you actually can't do work on the cloud until your cloud provider is up um so you set the taint um to make sure that you give you give the cloud provider time to initialize um cloud information about the nodes in the cluster will no longer be retrieved using a local using local metadata but instead all api calls to retrieve node information will go through a cloud controller manager this means that for larger clusters you may want to consider if your cloud controller manager will hit rate limits because there's going to be a lot of communication between the kubernetes api in your cloud api um and you know in the rate and it's going to be responsible for almost all the api clouds you make um you know to your cloud from within the cluster and so this is something that you'll want to think about um because there have been reports of cloud providers who um kubernetes hits the rate limiting on the on the on the cloud and you'll want to adjust those limits appropriately if you know that you're going to be um running kubernetes is inside of your cloud with that integration in place um and so it's important to note um you know that once you um that you set a toleration also so that the ccm can bootstrap itself so so that once you load the cloud provider you want to be able to load that you know if you're running it as a daemon set that you load it um that that you ignore the taint so that it can be scheduled and it can be brought up and that process can be started and so this is also another important aspect of when you decide to run it as a daemon set this is how you make it so that that um the cloud controller can be scheduled and started so that the entire kubernetes cloud can initialize okay finally there are some implementation details that you want to consider um what library are you going to use to interact with your cloud um typically you're going to have some sort of library which is you know probably in go um that interacts with your cloud how are you going to handle authentication and authorization and this is actually a problem that goes much much further because you may have a number of different integrations with your cloud particularly with the um with the the new cluster api and you want to make sure that you abstract how you handle authentication and authorization which means that you're going to have it you'll want to build an external library to handle that and these are the things you want to think about when you're building your provider of all the pieces that you'll possibly that'll possibly be used by other components that will be shared okay uh go ahead one more slide we said thank you because this is the end of the organized presentation but i think there's a link for q and a and how to get involved and how to find this deck so maybe one more we'll do q and a but i'll leave this up because there's the link to the deck yep so um so if you want to join the cloud provider sig we have a slack channel um sig cloud provider um and all of the cloud providers themselves also have their have their own slack channels so you can communicate with them um the google group is a community sig cloud provider it's a fairly low volume mailing list but important communication does happen on that and you do you should grow in join the group because a lot of the documents have access gated to members only so there's no particular qualifications other than providing an email but once you join the group it will end these situations where you'll see a dock list link try to open it and you'll get permission denied so the other thing is if you have problems in slack or google uh you can always open an issue on sig cloud provider and begin to chat that way and um i'm one of the uh chairs of the sig along with jago mccloud um and andrew psych him um but really one of the great things about sig cloud provider is um there's a tremendous amount of work that's going on and um you know and you know even though there are like the sig chairs the um when you show up and you do work within the within within within the sig um you know it can you know it's actually you are seen as a leader within the sig and um you know and there's a tremendous amount of work that that can be done particularly in finalizing the extraction process and then coming up with these commonalities that we're going to be sharing across the the providers and so if this is something work that you're interested in please show up in the slack channel show up in github um you know talk about the issues that you want to work on and we were are more than happy to guide you in the direction to become uh you know positive contributors to the sig okay with that does anyone have any questions sure uh can you let them borrow your mic of course we've got another one coming well um uh my uh my desk and her based on their all words you know the program of virtualization program uh well we build the uh well desk center based on the all words uh i i know that there's a uh cloud uh cloud provider to uh provide uh if i if i want to build the uh the commodities uh uh cluster uh based on the all words cluster and that's uh uh is that the uh we can use the uh you use sig team plugins to help us to build the uh commodities based on the all words cluster just i want to know the details how the how the how you program to to scheduling the uh the container based on the all words i'm not familiar with overt i do represent you know a hypervisor based cloud provider and i think chris does as well as overt is overt one of the cloud providers that we haven't found developers for yeah so overt is one of the entry providers that is going to be removed so if you are interested in continuing overt development then you'll want to actually start use use some of the things we talked about here to build an external provider for that um but essentially so i i think if i understand your question it's how do you how do you schedule the nodes on the on the cluster and sig cloud provider isn't doesn't worry about how a node is created the assumption is is that there is some mechanism that has created the nodes inside of your cloud and that you've started up the processes inside of that node that are going to be part so you're either so you've either designated a node as a control node or you've designated it as a as a as a working node um and then the cloud provider becomes aware of those and communicates so so if i can add to that uh the first thing i'd mention is i would go talk to sig cluster life cycle because how do nodes come into an existence is something that's usually dealt with by cluster life cycle right now once the node exists and it has been created in kubernetes how you provision that node according to the cloud provider that is exactly what the cloud provider sig cloud provider is concerned about but getting the node into existence you need to talk to cluster life cycle and then beyond that if you did want to influence placement of workload with scheduling then the zones come into play if you choose to right well that's that that's the because well zone zones are a little bit higher level there's actually there's the there's the node interface which understands is able to tell you know what sort of node you have what it's what is what is you know memory and and cq capacity is um what sort of workload is work is on it right now and you know and that will that will be the thing that it will read data from the from the from the from the cloud api to help determine how it schedules workloads for the different nodes yeah right and driver like a driver to help the yeah for for future releases of kubernetes we're going to need someone and maybe that would be you would write an external cloud provider for over and to be more specific if you if you want to not go through too much pain well maybe you may want to think about helping us actually move over into staging rather than having us just delete it if it's something you care about rather because once it's deleted you're going to have to go in the look back machine to find an older version of it and probably you know copy that and if you can just keep it going you may be better off right and extend and and moving it into staging is will extend the life cycle of that internal provider for at least one moment before you have to then get it and find a home for it and definitely come to sit cloud provider because finding homes for things like that is one of the things that we do right in our in our meetings what we should probably have our meeting times up here um they're thursdays at well you see you can only tell them one time zone too and yeah i usually say you can see so but yeah but there's but the anyway if you join the group you'll you'll see the calendar and learn what the meetings are they might not be at times friendly for china but right and if they're and if there are if you are interested you know if we have enough people who are interested in a in a different time that is more accommodating towards the asia pacific time zone um you know as a community we are we are always welcome you know to the idea of oh if there is demand for you know for people to be able to attend the meetings at the time that that's good for them to accommodate that either by changing the the meeting time or adding a you know a tick tock meeting so that we you know it's us european friendly one time in Asia pacific currently on the other time i think we have time for at most one more question because i've there's people stacking up to use the room for the next one anybody gotta last one otherwise we can hang out in the hall hi i'm oxen from the alibaba cloud and there i want to know the future roadmap for ccm so ccm or for cloud provider extraction or for cloud provider so i think the big thing we're working on right now is trying to get everyone to doing a standardized build out of tree test grid integration and moving kubernetes to a kernel model and i think that particular schedule is currently taking us through the end of 2020 if you look up andrew sycam and you look for the roadmap he actually has a very nice breakdown quarter by quarter of what each of our goals are for cloud provider extraction and cloud provider through the end of 2020 once we have everyone out i think there's going to be a lot of you know looking in and trying to determine what's next i imagine that's a lot of how do we make a better interface to doing various things that are undoubtedly going to be coming up it may be things like how to support specialized custom hardware uh do we want to move to more of the csi style model for some of the the the various pieces also um we have this never ending list of these little tweaky things about things like how do names uh nodes get named how can we make that consistent across cloud providers for transitions for hybrid clouds for that sort of thing and also for things like how do you determine a node is dead and what are the calls that need to be made um nodes have health checks that they make against the cube api server when a certain numbers have been missed now we have to determine okay is this node just slightly unhealthy or was it removed by the underlying cloud and so that some of those sort of life cycle models need to be looked at fairly closely okay thanks and i think we're going to have to cut off questions but i for one am willing to hang out in the hall if anybody got cut off


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