tion in the areas where you don't have a large concentration of Of cannabis odor Again as we move into the building permit phase that odor mitigation letter that was stamped by the mechanical engineer says that we're able to do it Our building permits then have to include the mechanical improvements that will do it once we know that we have the entitlement We'll pay for that plan set to be developed and then building will have to You know make sure that our mechanical engineers Specs meet the code and then As you know our conditions and our requirements under the code are no detectable odor outside of the premise And we will take Every effort to make sure that that happens As it would be a code violation that would be subject to action on One more question on the employees. Um, will they be Actually, it's a two-part question Will they be full-time or part-time and then you mentioned the security person And community liaison is that going to be one in the same or are you going to have a separate Identified person to interact with the community. So core security has been engaged for the for the kind of official presence of security, um, which which and they provide services to other cannabis businesses in the community and have a stellar track record of Of performance in that regard and so will rely on their professional services In how they Manage their employees on the site and make sure that they fulfill all of our commitments to you here today Um, the community liaison position and and community outreach will continue to be done You know all the way through with our community benefits plan Through the staff of fox den As to the specific ratio of full-time and part-time employees We're really too early on to to commit. We have a full build-out process and then we have to get an operation and Quite honestly a 900 square foot retail facility You know could there's multiple variations of how that could work It's a low impact demand for employees to provide Optimum services in such a small facility Thank you Any other questions of applicant right now? Yeah, commissioner peterson Uh, I've just got one Vice chair weeks ably asked most of the ones I was going to ask Are people are intoxicated people going to be allowed inside whether they're high or drunk if you show up You've had a couple beers at trail house or you smoke to joint in the parking lot. Are you going to be able to Get inside well first our our onsite security will Be a part of monitoring the parking lot and will help prevent any onsite consumption of beer or pot But no cannabis use and being Being under the influence or visibly intoxicated or actually having any I mean we're not just talking about alcohol and cannabis here People can be under the influence of viking and can be under the influence of other things that create an unsafe environment Any unsafe environment will be reported as any other business would do if someone entered in that type of estate The advantage here is that we will have trained security Folks that have gone through training on how to make sure that ID IDs are accurate and not fake and you know Kind of all of those types of how to handle that type of a situation But we're not proposing onsite consumption. So the It is difficult to fully answer the premise of the question because we're not proposing it Thank you Any other questions down here? Yeah commission call you Yeah Commissioner weeks also took a lot of my questions. So words. She's pretty good Um, I just have one question Can you talk a little bit about uh the pedestrian path of travel? What what that's expected to be especially if if I was looking at the The most recent parking plan submitted, uh, it seems like one of the ADA spots Is quite far away from the actual dispensary. So can you talk a little bit about that? And yeah, so the ADA spot that's on the northwestern corner Is is the one that's exist currently existing on that pedestrian path the second ADA spot that's proposed Is on the interior of the lot and that's the one that would be dedicated to trail house or to um, fox den There there's a specific path and we actually the very first meeting we had with the with the city and with the chief Building official and the senior planner on the project Was about the orientation and the the path of travel from the ADA spot and following their advice We located it on that north western corner of the interior lot In order to be able to provide a track path over to that doorway on the interior that you can see On the on the exhibit. So at no point does someone utilizing that parking spot have to go outside of the building In order to enter the retail premise And then on pedestrian there's an existing partial sidewalk along the west side of the the trail house unit and That is what we're currently looking at as what would be the logical path of travel for the for the pedestrian route handling the elevation and Kind of other grading issues that would need to be accomplished and we're prepared to work with the building department on that solution Okay, any other questions of the applicant right now, okay Thank you, mr. Caston Questions of staff Uh chair sisca, can I propose a five-minute break? Yes, you may Let's take a five-minute break. So we've been going on quite a long time. So Oh Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and call our meeting back to order so If you'll find a place to Be quiet and Let us continue So commissioners we're on questions of staff any questions of staff commission call you You're alone down there. I thought I'd start with you Sure. Um, so my First question is kind of around this The parking space the actual spacing of the parking spaces Can you talk because I'm still I have the old or the first rendition I believe of the parking plan Can you speak a little bit about that and the difference between downtown and what we're looking at here? Absolutely, let me see if I can bring the Mike will come to the help to the rescue here Okay So this is the the revised parking plan and if you have the the original one you can Compare and contrast them. So in the the first plan that they submitted The space is five four three and I believe two possibly we're only eight feet wide Parking spaces are allowed in the downtown but not in this location so to Make them nine feet wide and thank you to the Architect for trailhouse who pointed this out. We had a conversation the other day and he pointed that out to us The applicant Removed there was a hallway Between parking space number five and where the office and vault are That hallway has been removed and You now to get in the location of the office in the vault were transposed So now you have to go through the office to get to the vault And the spaces that were eight feet wide are now nine feet wide And in compliance with the minimum width requirement of the code My second question is are there specific Setbacks i'm assuming state law Around dispensaries through like abc through alcohol beverage control based on dispensary to Place that sells alcohol Is that known? Uh, well, I don't have specific statute sections, but it may not be on the same premise So this is uh A separate premise and trailhouse Thank you at it Down here. Yeah, how about you commissioner. I'll correct you Yeah, in The public correspondence there was an email exchange and then it was mentioned here again that kiwi was licensed for schooling For licensed for school-aged kids and then it kind of there was no definitive answer Can you go into that and if if or if that's a different kind of license or definition? It doesn't be the definition for the regulations Yes, so the the license that kiwi has falls under A daycare And when you look at the definition of daycare and this is in the email the correspondence that we provided So a daycare facility includes preschools in school-aged daycare facilities So there's a distinction between the distinction is between a school where instruction is provided versus a daycare where school-aged children Go for for basically for after-school care Not for instruction and that I think is the the distinction there Thank you commissioner peterson did you have any questions vice chair weeks To follow up on commissioner krepke's question One of the one of the people from kiwi said that they had a license for k through 12 Um I believe that's what somebody said Um, and wondered if that made any difference in This fact so the the license that they have and they provided us with a copy of that license They are licensed for what's uh called under state law a combination center A combination center is uh where they have a daycare center So that's traditional preschool or daycare and school-aged child daycare center So the school aged so they can have Children that are Not preschool age so above preschool age so school-aged children, but again it is after school care It is not a school Um a traditional you know in the traditional sense of the word So it'd be for basically for after-school care And that's what their their license is for so and that is different from a k through 12 school They they may have k through 12 students there, but again it is for after-school care not for school Okay Any other questions of staff? Any other questions of the applicant? Okay So let's bring it back to the commission for Discussion And would somebody like to move the resolution for just purposes of discussion I'll move the resolution of the planning commission of the city of santa rosa Approving a conditional use permit for fox 10 ink to operate a cannabis retail dispensary and delivery business Within an existing building located at 4036 dash b montgomery drive Assessors parcel number 013 dash 284 dash 012 file number c up 18 dash 076 and wait for the reading Well, do I have a second? second Okay, so that was moved by commissioner peterson seconded by vice chair weeks Commissioner calling would you like to start? Sure So Firstly, I want to hear what my fellow commissioners say kind of before I make up my final decision, but For me a big, you know The biggest thing would be the parking situation because I have also been to trial house many a time and It is difficult and so I'd be interested in kind of talking about potentially, you know, uh conditioning this In a I'm not entirely sure how that would work out, but Um, and then also Yeah, my main my main thing is about the parking, but so I'd like to hear what my fellow commissioners say Okay, vice chair weeks Well, I echo what commissioner callia said about the parking It does meet the park. It does meet the parking requirements. Um, they aren't asking for a parking reduction Uh, it is tight there when I've gone to trail house sometimes drive around until you find a spot or You go over by mary's which you shouldn't be doing probably but uh it Are charged as a planning commission is to implement plans In the ordinances and the policies of the city of san rosa and if this does meet those Um So there's lots of emotions regarding this And the proposal wasn't as complete as I would have liked and as we've seen before Um But regardless I'm gonna support the project commissioner peterson well, uh, I think this is A challenging project and it gets it. Um I think the the heart of the issues that the planning commission faces and that these types of land use is raised and You know when we're talking about something like this, I think what we're really talking about is Our sense of community and what we want that community to look like and I think we heard very powerfully from um, a lot of people that that trail house has and continues to be a very Important key part of the the santa rosa community and I think that we need to Take threats to that Seriously At the same time cannabis is also part of the community and has been for a long time And when we Look at things like the cannabis ordinance and the amount of work time You know meetings, you know public comments that we got That was the expression of Santa rosa's community as to how Cannabis should be regulated And Much like vice chair weeks. I'm looking at What the ordinance is as it is rather than What it maybe should have been or what it maybe could have been and So when I look at this project And I look at the concerns that the community has Particularly in regards to the proximity to the preschool Um, I mean the ordinance is what it is and and there is no setback In the local ordinance and In the opinion of city council, uh, that's perfectly compliant with the state law that is different I understand the concerns about Uh beyond the setback just the sort of the proximity of cannabis To children in a child care facility But the difficulty I have with that Was raised with some of the public comment, which is Any concern that can be raised about substance abuse or You know Vagrancy crime As it relates to alcohol is equally applicable to To cannabis is equally applicable to alcohol and I think we see that with You know bars and liquor stores so For me the issue is it really comes down to Is this Project Physically suitable is is the density type intensity of use Parking appropriate for this area and I think that From what I've heard From the applicant from staff and from public From the public I I think it is I think that You know the existing parking may be tight but The parking proposed by the the applicant is compliant and Um again, whether or not that's ideal whether or not It's it's perfect is a different question than whether or not it meets the standards That were tasked with Evaluating as it pertains to this specific project So I'm In favor of this project. I'll be able to make all necessary findings Um and I Would just express my hope that with A project like this should it it pass should the the count commission support this that that the security is effective at dealing with the existing issues With regard to Transients near the school And that there Is an improvement in the security of the area that Trailhouse will continue to be a hub for the community and that Fox's den will be able to integrate into the community and provide What I think we heard from the public is a another very valuable service and With that I will turn it to over to my fellow commissioners commissioner Kepke Yeah, I uh I echo my fellow commissioners thoughts on the difficulty in making a decision on this um You know, I do have two children under the age of four one in a preschool and um I understand that how definitions are made at the state and at the local level and um You know, they are what they are and it's We we're not a policy-making commission We are tasked with looking at a at an application and making the required findings not to say whether a policy is right or wrong and um Because of that I I echo my fellow commissioners um Thoughts when when it says When they say it fits The required I could that can make the required findings that they're there that parking and all these other um An environmental and so on findings are met and so um, it's because of that that uh, I will support this application Okay Um, it's okay if I go ahead or you want to go ahead now or okay? Um You know, I think it is Obviously an emotional issue and how our policies came to be I think we're really well Portrayed tonight and that It was a community effort They arrived at the policies that they that we arrived at through extensive outreach and community input And vetted through the boards vetted through public hearings. So the policies are what they are and the city council made Cannabis businesses And getting this off and rolling one of their first priorities and now we're just starting to see these come through And the the purpose was to make sure that they were Distributed throughout the city to make sure that people that would be utilizing that service Um had access, uh, hopefully without much use of a car. So I think the fact that this is another the Dispensary on the east side is is very important It is in a walkable area. It is in an area where there's public transit a lot of times we have questions about that how that's going to work So it's also I think going to beautify The exterior of the trail house And and make it much more safe in general the security that these Um Services provide is extensive and I think the the school can only benefit by The security there isn't any way a preschool child is going to be seeing the dispensary There's no glass on the rear Uh, there there's just no real exposure And there will be security around that protecting them from what and some of the letters had said were The issues of concern so I I'm very much Believe that that's going to be true I think it it meets the parking count the traffic analysis is supportive It's definitely a small site and a very busy business a trail house is a busy business and maybe Nobody could have predicted how much parking they may have really needed But the counts are the counts and they're met here So, um, I can make all of the findings and we'll be voting in favor of the project And commissioner call you Thank you. I appreciate hearing from my fellow commissioners. I completely agree and I know that we are a No, we're not a policy making body and our role is very Quantitative not qualitative in our findings that we need to make and I do agree that We do need to have and our dispensaries need to be spread out equitably in our community and not just be um Consolidated to the west side and so I and for me it's not an emotional argument It's really just about the parking and so I would appreciate if the applicant Instead of conditioning potentially conditioning the project to Requiring, you know employees to be parking off-site I would appreciate if the applicant put in a real effort to make sure that these parking spots are specifically for Clients and not necessarily just taken up by employees and then obviously as a as a business practice You obviously want your employee your clients to have a nice, you know experience in your location So I will also be supporting this project Okay, great Anything else anyone wants to say? Okay So that was moved by commissioner peterson seconded by commissioner weeks and your votes, please And that passes with five ayes commissioners dug in and edmundson being absent And that concludes this item okay So i'm going to let people exit because that can make a little bit of noise, but we're going to go ahead and Begin 10.3, which is a public hearing for the Bio bloom ventures conditional use permit on colgan avenue. It is an ex parte disclosure Let them finish Okay, we are moving on to 10.3, which is an ex parte disclosure commissioner call you anything to disclose I visit the site and have nothing further to disclose vice chair weeks I also visited the site and have nothing to disclose commissioner peterson I visited the site and have nothing further to disclose commissioner okraki I have nothing to disclose And I also visited the site and have new new information to disclose And with that we will get our staff report from Immanuel ursu Thank you chair cisco members of the planning commission members of the public who sat through that long first item This presentation will be a similar format to the prior item where I will Give a real brief overview of the cannabis ordinance discuss the project some of the public comment The sequo status and staff recommendation The application before you This item is for a micro business, which is a cannabis business with more than one component This one includes Cannabis retail With delivery cultivation Distribution and a level one manufacturing, which is the Utilizes a non volatile extraction process And that's a type six and a type 10 state license This project site is in the industrial light industrial zoning district and The Setback requirements apply to the retail component 600 feet from the nearest school And 600 feet from any other cannabis retail facility And conditional use permit is required. That's the hearing here this evening planning commission's decision is appealable to the city council Deliveries are proposed and Drive-through is not permitted hours of operation 9 a.m. To 9 p.m security requirements in place And on-site consumption is allowed for retail facilities. No on-site consumption is proposed with this application With regard to Some of the other uses proposed cultivation the code requirements Cultivation must be indoors And there are strict requirements with regard to the use of pesticides For the manufacturing process, as I mentioned, this is a non volatile process. So Non-toxic solvent-free Processes will be used in a closed loop system And there's a certification required on an annual basis They're required to have a food handlers permit and a permit from the county health department And there are several other requirements of the municipal code that apply This is just a quick overview of those With regard to the distribution there are again specific code requirements that apply to the distribution facilities And those are listed here on this slide just to highlight a couple of them The storage needs to be secure same with the waste Any waste products there needs to be a process to Separate and store and track The various batches that are produced and labeled for distribution There needs to be a way of tracking And tracing the the product as it goes out the door Conditional use permit has six findings that apply You need to find that it's Consistent with the provisions of the zoning code Consistent with the policies of the general plan Compatible with existing and future land uses The site is physically suitable for the use. It would not constitute a a nuisance and that it is in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act So these are all the Qualitative discretionary findings that the commission Needs to make in order to approve the application So to the specifics about the proposal The project is on a site that has two buildings. It's proposed in A vacant building that has had a history of light industrial uses The facility is Almost 5,000 square feet. It's 4970 square feet And it'll have the breakdown of the uses as shown on this slide 1677 square feet of sales floor area A 432 square foot cultivation room 658 for the manufacturing and 586 for distribution the balance of the space which is about 1500 square feet is for administrative offices in support administrative support functions A Application was submitted On april 20th of last year on june 4th. There was a neighborhood meeting On July 2nd the application was deemed complete and notice was mailed 10 days ago to surrounding property owners we did get comments and emails from A management firm that manages property in the in the area Indicating that they do not feel the notice requirements had been met Those notice requirements were met Notices required to be mailed 10 days before the hearing to Owners of record of property within a 300 foot radius of the project site Those notices were mailed 10 days prior to this meeting The Email we received did indicate that they did receive a notice On the 14th, I believe they said or excuse me the 16th So the notice was mailed on the on the 14th. They would have received it a couple of days later So we didn't meet the legal noticing requirements In addition a sign was posted on the property as required By the local regulations and published in the local newspaper Uh, this property is located in the southeast quadrant of the community on colgan avenue It is zoned light industrial there are light industrial uses on Both the east and the west so on either side of the property To the south behind the property is a commercial zone with a big box retailer And then across the street to the north is Our residential uses Zoning is consistent with the general plan Land use designations shown in this exhibit As I mentioned there are two existing buildings on the property The shaded building on this diagram is the building in which the Business is proposed And then the building in the top right hand portion of this exhibit Which would be the it's kind of the northwest corner of the property That's an existing garage door business that would continue to operate on the property Right now there really is no paved parking On the site the applicant is proposing to put in a parking lot total of 41 spaces Employee parking is at the back of the property. There would be a gate That would secure the access to the employee parking towards the back of the facility Where the parking space is at the front of the facility between the street and the facility Would be accessible and available to customers of both the garage door business and the proposed Business cannabis business The applicant also submitted a comprehensive landscape plan The There'll be a fence towards the front of the property about 16 or so feet from the street Sidewalk will be installed along the building for our property frontage Between the sidewalk and the fence there will be street trees will be put in shrubs and ground cover And then a pedestrian access gate Will be provided Along with a vehicular access gate between the pedestrian gate and the garage door business This is the proposed floor plan The public would only have access to the retail area The other areas of the building would only be accessible to employees of the of the business The security gate that I mentioned that provides access to the Parking at the rear lines up generally with about the front of the building so the top right Corner in this exhibit This is a table that shows the parking requirements 15 spaces are Required for the proposed business 35 spaces are required for the existing garage door business For a total of 50 spaces required on site The 41 spaces will be provided in the new parking lot and then there's a parking space available behind the existing garage door business that would make up the difference between the 41 spaces and the 50 spaces required proposed hours for the retail operation are consistent with the municipal code limitations on Dispensaries which is 9 a.m. To 9 p.m. Monday Monday through Monday seven days a week And then the non-retail operations they're proposed between 8 a.m. And 10 p.m. However any shipments associated with the Non-retail operations would only occur during normal business hours so between about 9 a.m. And 5 p.m At the neighborhood meeting And input that we received both the phone calls I did receive two or three telephone calls from neighbors And then a few pieces of written correspondence There were concerns primarily with parking sounds like there's an existing parking shortage in the neighborhood I presume it's street parking that was being referred to their concerns with crime and odor as well This exhibit shows the closest school which is Due east well well over 600 feet approximately 1,500 feet from the proposed dispensary This aerial photograph shows the the property The cannabis business would be in the Building that is to the rear right. Let me see if I could get the Here we go This is where the building would be or the cannabis business would be in this building this Pole barn structure has I believe it if it's not already been removed will be removed Employee parking will be basically from about this point back In this area and behind the building The distribution area Would be in this location And then the retail would be up front in this area The parking Proposed would be in this area here the 40 or excuse me the space is available to the To the public that is using the business would be in this area And then there's additional parking for the garage door business located in this building which would be at the back in this area As I mentioned the project includes installation of a sidewalk along the project frontage A Fence that is basically I believe in line with the front of this existing building back in this area And then landscaping between the sidewalk and the the fence This is a view from the street Again, this is the building it's set back approximately 80 feet From the front property line The parking lot would be in this area Which would be landscaped would be a pedestrian gate Approximately here and then the vehicular gate would be in this area And then this area up front here would be landscaped and a sidewalk installed The garage door business is in this building here Part of our review we reviewed the project for consistency with sequa the california environmental quality act and find it to meet A few of the categorical exemptions as shown in this slide And with that staff concludes our presentation and recommends that the planning commissioner approve the project With the conditions of approval that are indicated in the draft resolution. Thank you Any questions of staff right now? okay so It's the applicant almost ready to make a presentation Oh, you need the clicker again Thank you so much Chair siscoe could I ask staff just a yes you may quick question I just want to clarify I think this came up in the the public correspondence But with regard to the notice the notice goes only to property owners correct So not the tenants of that property. That is correct. Yes. So notice goes to property owners A notice is posted on the project site A I think was a 32 square foot sign that's posted on the project site And notice is also Published in the local newspaper okay, and I can't recall for my site visit. Is the sign bilingual or is it just in english? I believe it. It's just english. Okay. Thank you Okay, mr. Robert. Yeah, thank you. Good evening. I do have a power point presentation so perhaps that can Get queued up Oh, great. Thank you So good evening. My name is Joe Rogway. I'm here on behalf of biobloom ventures, which is a micro business containing cultivation manufacturing distribution retail storefront end delivery Located at 252 colgan in santa rosa This is uh, I think it'd be a very clean project It's also going to significantly improve the project site as Was discussed and will be discussed further The applicant is a local family-owned company That has a history of operating a non-profit cannabis delivery service And providing medical cannabis to patients with the physician's recommendation this prior experience in the industry has provided the applicant with Expertise related to packaging Operational oversight product selection inventory management and control staffing Training and just generally being able to run a business of this type which makes them well suited to have this type of multi-use vertically integrated business With regards to neighborhood compatibility As was mentioned earlier, the subject property is on colgan avenue Between santa rosa avenue and petaluma hill road It's immediately abutted by light industrial zone parcels to the east and west To the south lies a retail and business service zone Which is the cost cope center? That i'm sure many of us are familiar with And the parcel cross from colgan avenue are zoned medium residential There is a Good nearby access to bus stops public transit pedestrian access One of the things i think is also notable about this project is with That portion of the frontage of the site i'm getting a sidewalk Which i think is going to be a real meaningful improvement there for familiar with the area There's no sidewalk. That's a safety concern. I think that the city will welcome having that particular improvement There is no proposed on-site consumption for this site As was mentioned earlier the near school is Foreign excess of the setback requirements. So that should be a non issue with regards to this particular project With regards to neighborhood compatibility There are going to be like really significant changes and improvements to the exterior of the building which i'll delve into in just a moment There's going to be the removal an existing pole barn, which is A dilapidated structure that really um, you know, it just needs to be removed frankly The uh, the african will be improved excuse me improving colgan avenue for the public benefit And that includes as i mentioned Paving the the property adding additional lighting within the parking lot Which i think is also going to go a long way in terms of public safety Adding new fence around the parcel Adding additional landscaping and doing other things like adding a curb and a gutter and street lighting along colgan avenue So from the city's perspective, there's going to be i think a real dramatic improvement for this site With the the proposed use from where it is now the exterior of the building Is i'm going to have a lot of improvements including metal coping trim wood siding stone veneer cement plaster finishes And painted metal canopy that will hang above the retail entrance. So it's going to look good And i think it'll be something that is just again a real dramatic improvement From the way it looks now, which is you know, what is contained within the red box on your screen. So as you can see it's You know currently an eyesore I would say that this is a really good example of blight In the neighborhood that is going to get cleaned up by bio bloom There is a really i think significant setback of the building from Colgan which just gives the applicant opportunity to make a lot of those improvements that i've been discussing Which is going to include all of those issues with curbs and sidewalks and landscaping Obviously from what you can see it's more than sufficient parking to meet the needs and what was described by staff This is The existing as you can see that the sort of photo of the existing storefront and then The lower image is the elevation of what it's going to look like After the improvements were made. So again, just a real dramatic improvement to be Just improved upon through this use the top image is the front exterior of the building where The customers will be entering through that door on the lower right And the lower image is the side elevation where you can see Item number 10. That's where the distribution facility is essentially the vehicles are going to come in and out But overall it's just going to be sort of comprehensively a better looking And better use of this property The landscaping are you know, it's going to be Water efficient landscaping in accordance with the city's water official landscaping policy And the planting is going to be drought tolerant native plants So it's going to be low water use. It's going to be beautified. And I think just again another example of the dramatic improvement This slide I think was already shown to the commission, but it's just worth showing again How different it's going to look from how it has been looking for the last several years So there's a lot of open sort of barren space pavement and dirt That's going to really change and have a lot of Mature landscaping. There's going to be a lot of paved areas that will be available for parking in addition to Including things like bike racks, which will hopefully Induce people or motivate people to ride their bikes Either to work or to ride their bikes to come and visit the retail outlet The interior changes are also going to be fairly significant as was mentioned earlier The only public publicly accessible portion of the site will be the retail area The rest of the facility will be a limited access area Which means that members of public won't be able to go there So there's going to be some interior demising walls that are going to have to go up to separate the premises And separate the publicly accessible places from the limited access areas And the sort of aesthetic for whatever it's worth is is going to be sort of that high-end wine tasting type of aesthetic that you know, we cherish so much here In Sonoma County, of course using sustainable environmentally friendly materials and Doing things like the the frosting And similar types of window treatments to just add some lighting But also have that opacity to make areas not visible that should not be visible Here is just another image For your review of the interior of the facility as you can see the area that's highlighted And that sort of salmon color Is going to be the only area that is Accessible to the public. So it's just the retail area about 1677 square feet and the restroom everything that Remains in white is going to be just the internal area For employees and other people that are Legally allowed to be in those areas This is a Larger view of the site and Where the building is in relation to The parking and other elements that have already been presented through staff's presentation And it's just I think a very well put together Use of the space and is going to be you know far superior to what has been there historically One of the issues that comes up frequently in these types of projects and was Subject to some of the comments that were received From neighbors relates to odor mitigation Of course, as you know, there cannot be any detectable odor of marijuana outside of the facility That will indeed be the case here Which will be essentially enforced through Very significant odor mitigation methods industry standard Standards such as the utilization of carbon filtration and can filters Which the images of which are delineated at the bottom of this slide Over rushing all this is obviously a layered regulatory analysis at both a local and state level Which correlates obviously to Age restrictions for who can be at the facility limited access areas as I was describing earlier No visibility outside of the premises the daily limits that are relevant under state law Track and trace compliance, which is obviously important to ensure that nothing is diverted outside the legal market And adherence to the rules and regulations as relates to delivery The community benefits In addition to the ones that I've already noted there's going to be Efficiencies built in for energy and efficiencies built in for water use both of which I think are important for any new project coming into the city And and I think this is another thing that is important for every business to to try to utilize and something that That is going to be important here Which is recruiting from a local talent pool And providing good jobs full-time jobs that have benefits and having those good full-time jobs with benefits Also pay living wage of $20 an hour So hopefully this will be sustainable not just from an environmental perspective, but also from a labor and employment perspective as well There is also You know the the desire to maintain local engagement After approval if it is approved While this business is operational And first having this facility Be everything that the site is not now Which is clean and maintained and welcoming and safe and well lit All those things are not currently the case and all those things will be the case if this project were to be approved There's also a real desire for the applicant to support various community programs Sports education art music youth activities and senior services are all very important for the applicant and things that They are looking to provide some benefit to you as they are moving forward through the operations of their business And this is going to be something that they look to expand Their role in the community and become more active as they get up and running And there's just a variety of things that they are proposing sponsorship of uniforms and equipment for youth-oriented sports teams sponsorship of leagues The provision of compassionate care medicine to eligible patients Who would otherwise not be able to afford medicine and who really need it And so that is essentially the project in a nutshell as you can see it's a very I think clean project And we respectfully request that You approve this project for conditional use permit and I am available to answer whatever questions you may have. Thank you Any questions of the applicant before we go to the public caring? Yes, commissioner peterson Just just a quick one Since you answered my usual questions about pay and benefits What if any neighborhood outreach did you do prior to this application? Essentially just what was required Under the ordinance so we had the neighborhood meeting. We had the relevant notices But there there wasn't very much interest when we had the neighborhood meeting One person showed up and at the conclusion of that meeting They actually stated that they were going to support the project. So we felt that there wasn't a real Need in in the neighborhood in the community to have further outreach based on the response that we got Thank you Anything else? Okay This is a public hearing tonight. I'm going to go ahead and open the public hearing I don't have any cards on the item, but if there's anyone who wishes to speak you can go to a microphone up If if you'd like to comment or ask questions that would be great But would you please go up to a microphone and state your name for the record that way we can get it all down And you have three minutes so I found some discrepancies from what it's making you please state your name for the record. Could you give us your name, please? Okay Yeah, I found some discrepancies for what we Just saw and what was on the website santa rosa website in In an application because hours of operation it says from 8 a.m. To 10 p.m. And this is just it's a small street And across the street we have residential complexes and senior complexes So and it also says that during the early hours and Sometimes at night it will be really we're gonna make deliveries. So this is um, I don't see like It was in your presentation, right about night deliveries Just talk to us and then we'll get your question answered. Okay, great. Thanks. Yeah Also about about parking spaces We have a huge apartment complex which has only Inside the complex. It's only one parking spot per apartment, but Two two bedroom apartments usually have at least two cars and they have no space to to park in this area sometimes they Park along the Colgan street and if they and it says actually in your Uh paper work I'm gonna read it It should be noted that during the Site visit where it was numerous numerous vehicle parked along the project It is understood the street parking will be not permitted once frontage improvement are complete and I also have a questions regarding Deliveries Because permitted general light industrial Uh trips only 37, but we propose 471 trips It's 12 12.7 times more than is permitted for light industrial Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you Anyone else wishing to speak on this item? And if you'd give your name for the record, thanks. My name is van solkov Uh, I'm a local business owner. I run a tour company based in the city of sonoma We're really excited about this project because one of the things we're looking for in a dispensary partner is the kind of ambiance and vibe that Has been expressed in what we've heard here tonight in in what that Facility is going to be looking like and so if you can imagine that we've just visited a tasting room in the valley And now we've brought some folks into santa rosa to visit a dispensary and if we can continue that same Experiential vibe of the wine country feel To me that's a real plus Helps my business grow Helps me contribute more to the economy and helps Kind of bring this whole cannabis industry more and more out of the shadows. So i'm a big proponent of this particular project Uh, I think that it is in it makes a lot of sense for the location And and it would make a lot of sense for myself and the other tour companies that operate in the area Thank you. Thank you Okay, good evening. My name is julie roth and I have known One of the partners um in the proposed operations for Almost 20 years now They became my neighbors Um And from the minute they Moved into the neighborhood From san francisco. So they weren't local to begin with They got involved in Creating an association for our neighborhood to better our neighborhood Which nobody had before people who had lived there for years and years They opened the small business in the community hiring local Um teens To work in that business giving them their first jobs ever they also Supported community events through donations also actually Serving on the kenwin education foundation um Always community oriented everything that they ever worked on or with Benefitted our community in many many ways and now they have the opportunity here to you know to Help the city of san aroza and you know larger community As a whole and I know that they will follow through The programs that they suggested there as far as sports teams and Well, the list was very good But anyway, I just know that they are people who do what they say and they have from the moment they Moved into sinoma county have been Giving towards the community as a whole Great. Thank you Anyone else wishing to speak Okay, i'm not seeing anyone else rise. So i'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing And mr. Rogway, would you like to respond to some of the questions that were raised? Yeah, certainly. So the hours of operation are what are portrayed here on slide number 23 And these are derived from the project description. So Perhaps it could be just An interpretation discrepancy between the hours for The retail and delivery which is nine to nine and the non-retail operations Which is from eight to ten and delineated Right there as it relates to parking We're gonna have more than ample parking for for this for this business and for the for our use there I think the you know the street parking issue is I think a separate issue And we can't control the street parking. I think that there are already some restrictions on street parking in the area and we will not be Utilizing that for for this business. So The customers for bio bloom and its employees will not be parking on the street. I think the parking is prohibited So I don't know how else to interface with that other than to say This project will not be adversely impacting Parking for the residents because our parking the applicant's parking is all self contained on the premise As it relates to the trip generation, I would just defer to what is in our application materials and That is What it's going to look like for this particular use Okay, thank you Any other questions of applicant No, any questions of staff So Then would somebody Like to move a resolution for the purposes of discussion I moved the resolution of the planning commission of the city of santa rosa Improving a conditional use permit for bio bloom ventures to operate a cannabis micro business With adult and medicinal use retail dispensary and delivery cultivation Manufacturing and distribution within an existing building located at 252 colgan avenue assessors parcel number 044 dash 011 dash 052 file number c up 18 dash 072 and wave further reading Second So that was moved by commissioner peterson seconded by vice chair weeks Vice chair weeks. Would you like to start? Yeah, I'm sorry. You can't hear me I'm going to support this application or the project once again Mr. Rogoy, you have a very good and detailed application and any questions I had going in before I read it Were answered so I really appreciate that Um, and I agree with you that there will be Once it's done, there will be a vast improvement to that area. So I'm going to support the project. Thank you commissioner peterson Well, I echo my fellow commissioner and that I think this is a really great Detailed application that answers a lot of the the questions that typically arise While I I think we saw the value in having a very robust public comment And it would have been probably valuable for this project as well to hear from The tenants of the building across the street the notice procedure was In compliance with the the rules. So that's maybe a discussion for another day As it pertains to this particular project again, I think like vice chair weeks It's it will be a a big improvement to the area. I think the sidewalk Alone would be very valuable. There were plenty of people when I was there After dark walking around and I think the lighting the sidewalk and just sort of the general Visual improvements will be huge and I'm in support of this project. You can make all necessary findings Mr. O'Cropkey I agree on the thoroughness of the presentation It's nice to have a presentation for a cannabis business that has more than sufficient parking 16 extra spaces is is nice Also, I appreciate the family owned aspect of it their experience not only within The the cannabis business, but also within the community that they have And as my fellow commissioners said the improved street look From I'll use your word the blight that it is now Going above and beyond of just putting in parking spaces and then and sidewalks we're putting in landscaping To make it to beautify it that is a great thing and I also think it's awesome that there's It's located in an area where there's so much commercial activity as well some residential nearby So you can have people walking or people stopping by to grab something like running an errand as they go to Costco or wherever else they're going So because of that and because of the fact that I can make all the findings I'll be in support of this project Commissioner call you I also want to echo all my fellow commissioners. I can make all the appropriate findings necessary to support this project I'm kind of going through the same things that you know the Increasing the vitality of that area through this business and I appreciate the small business on her aspect of this proposal And I think it'll be a good addition to that to that community And I also support the project and can make all the findings and I think a very exciting aspect is the Infrastructure improvement. It's a very underserved area and anytime we can get a piece of Sidewalk put in that's great. It completely changes the how that area looks. It's really beautifying and So I really appreciate that and the landscaping all of that is really really nicely done So I am absolutely for it So with that that was moved by commissioner peterson seconded by vice chair weeks and your votes, please And that passes with by vise commissioners dug in and edmondson being absent And I believe that concludes that item. Thank you. Thank you So next we're going to go ahead and move on to item 10.4 Um Which I just lost on my computer Which is humanity wellness conditional use permit. It is an ex parte disclosure commissioner call. Yeah I visited the site and have nothing further to disclose For weeks I also visited the site and have nothing to disclose Mr. Peterson, I visited the site and have nothing further to disclose And commissioner. Oh, correct me. I have nothing to disclose. Okay, and with that Gary broad will be giving the staff presentation Thank you chair sisco and planning commissioners This is humanity wellness's conditional use permit application for 37 91 cleveland avenue The application's been filed to allow humanity of santa rosa to operate humanity wellness A proposed medical and adult use retail cannabis dispensary Which will include both delivery and on-site consumption The dispensary is proposed in 2000 square feet of retail space And the proposed hours of operation are as permitted under our ordinance from 9 a.m to 9 p.m daily This is the location map as you can see the project site is located at 37 91 cleveland avenue And here's an aerial You can see that this was part of the area that was affected by the tubs fire and Mountain mike pizza was located to the south of the site at 37 81 Other businesses in the area were also destroyed by the fire The property has Two new structures that were built on it. It has a building that houses el pollo loco And at 37 91 in the proposed the proposed cannabis dispensary Is two newly constructed and currently vacant 1000 square foot retail structures You can see that the zoning for the property and for in fact This whole block is general commercial Zoning the property It's really bounded by highway 101 and roadways on cleveland avenue on and hopper On both the east and the north side of the lot The general plan for the area also is retail and business services And again, the roadways are Located along the east and north side of the property The application was filed back in april of 2018 Because it's not within The required number of feet of any residential properties It was not required to have a neighborhood meeting on the application The application was deemed complete in july and there was notice of the application still mail to neighbors and to interested parties in august of 2018 This is the site plan as mentioned The building identified as not part of this application is the newly constructed el pollo loco Building there had previously been a restaurant on this site which Went before the planning commission A couple years ago to receive Approval for the drive-through for el pollo loco and it also went through design review for both the el pollo loco building and also for the What's identified as the subject property the 37 91 cleveland avenue Which was constructed as two 1 000 square foot tenant spaces and the applicant proposes to merge those Into a single 2 000 square foot space as part of this application You can see in the the floor plan that Each of the squares basically is one of the Um Has built 1 000 square foot retail spaces The floor plan combines those into a single 2 000 square foot proposed facility the lobby would be in the the Portion of the building on the left the applicant Would propose to remove one of the front doors since they would only have one front entrance into this space Additionally and and this is the as built the existing elevations For the building and you can see in the upper The south elevation that as built there are two front doors And so the applicant proposes to remove the front door In the right hand building and to replace that with just the glazing where there is a front door The the lower elevation You can see in the proposed elevation the applicants Considering removing the glazing For security and replacing that with just a solid wall And any of those exterior changes would be subject to design review following planning commission action on the cannabis use permit application The application had to comply with the standard cannabis ordinance requirements Uh, these included the submittal of a security plan And staff review of that plan and the applicant's plan included Standard components which we've seen in most security plans including provisions for surveillance for on-site alarms And for on-site security staff Uh, the application is required to comply with the city's requirements for odor mitigation And odor control and the applicant submitted a Verification from a registered engineer that the proposed carbon Carbon odor Control system is compliant with the city's cannabis ordinance The application does propose on-site consumption In the project description that the applicant had indicated that The consumption would include on-site vaping and because that's not allowed under our code I did follow up with them prior to the staff report being prepared to advise them that This would not be permitted under our code due to the city's smoking regulations and the applicant is aware of the fact that On-site vaping would not be required And they indicated in their email that they would only be using on-site consumption and the use of Let me get it right only consumption at a co edibles and topicals would be permitted So They they are not proposing as was originally indicated in their project plans project description the use of on-site vaping The proposed facility would be open from 9 a.m. To 9 p.m. Daily We received a single response related to the proposal and This was in an email that referenced to cannabis proposed cannabis Dispensaries and in that email the writer Indicated quote shouldn't have a pot store in the freeway service area and quote As commissioners saw in the prior zoning Slide that whole portion of the city that whole neighborhood is designated as general commercial which with commission approve of a conditional use permit would allow for a dispensary facility the project was Reviewed for compliance with sequa and it was found to be categorically exempt as a class three Conversion of a small structure because the facility size at 2,000 square feet is below the 2,500 square foot threshold Additionally, the project meets the sequel requirements for class 32 categorical exemption Being compliant with all six of the required findings including the size the Um lack of environmental sensitivity to the site and the availability of all necessary urban services Additionally the project complies with the necessary six findings that the planning commission must make in approving a use permit The planning and economic development department recommends that the commission approve the resolution for c up 18-049 To approve a medical and adult use retail cannabis dispensary at 37 91 Cleveland Avenue And I'd be happy to answer any questions from the commission Any questions of staff right now? Okay, thank you, mr. Broad And is the applicant here wishing to present great Yes, and I had a power point presentation as well Okay All right. Uh, good evening commissioners and staff Thank you. It's been a long night. I know we're all eager to get home So hopefully this won't take up too much of your time. My name is Lauren Mendelsen I am here tonight on behalf of humanity wellness Which will hopefully soon be a medical and adult use cannabis retail facility here in the city of santa rosa I'm also a santa rosa resident. Um, just wanted to throw that out there. I'm a big fan of this city Um, really briefly to introduce the project's mission and vision the goal The overarching goals of this project are to create a safe and aesthetically appealing space Where both medicinal patients and adult use consumers can purchase high quality locally sourced cannabis products Um, additionally as was mentioned, uh, we wish to incorporate an on-site consumption area that'll comply with local and state Requirements and offer delivery based retail services for anyone who's not able to Travel themselves to the retail facility as was mentioned on-site consumption would be limited to the use of edibles and topicals Unless the city smoking ordinance is amended to allow for some other type of ingestion on the site And finally the goal of just contributing to santa rosa's economy and becoming a really important member of the community here Is one that we want to keep in mind and keep pursuing the management advisory team I'll introduce them briefly. We have domina killamen He has prior experience working in a cannabis retail environment as part of a proposition 215 collective in the central valley He currently helps manage a taekwondo school in galt He is very familiar with the cannabis industry and product trends and focus on quality assurance And he's a patient who has benefited from the medical aspects of cannabis Brad white has 45 years in the construction industry. He is president and ceo of american building concept ink He has over 38 years of experience operating a business and he has won accolades such as citizen of the year and outstanding business of the year We also have rodney hillamon who's here with us tonight with his daughter alexis He's the father of domina killamen who i mentioned earlier So you can see this is a family business Rodney also has experience operating a cannabis business in the central valley with his son at the collective that i mentioned Rodney is currently president and manager of robinson's taekwondo academy in galt So there's his business experience and he has also been a winner of business of the month Um for that taekwondo school. Um, and there is myself. I am the legal counsel for this project I'm an associate attorney at the law offices of omar figaroa and sabastopol I focus exclusively on cannabis licensing and compliance i'm also on the board of directors of the sonoma county growers alliance and i mentioned that i'm a resident of sanarosa Here we can see the project site As has already been discussed. This is in the northern end of the city In an area that was it hit very hard by the tubs fire right adjacent to the mountain mikes and the kmart that burned down This building was actually under construction when the fire hit and amazingly somehow was unscathed The zoning as mentioned is general commercial is surrounded by other commercial and industrial uses. There are no residential Areas nearby. There are no schools nearby. No parks. No daycares. No other sensitive receptors in the vicinity Here is another image just Indicating that so you can see how far the proposed dispensary, which is at the very northern end possibly the most northern one on this map How far that is from the residential uses and also how Close it is to highway 101 and other major roads and traffic arteries Here are some photos of the how the building currently looks right now on the outside It is a new building as was mentioned. It is still currently two separate suites that will be combined into one The exterior appearance of this building Matches that of the el pollo loco next door. They were built at the same time We don't want to change too much of the exterior. It's new. It looks nice and it matches what's already in the surroundings So we would just want to keep that Idea going so that it blends in well with the surrounding buildings and businesses With regards to traffic parking and circulation, which we've discussed a lot tonight A traffic study was completed by w-trans. It found no significant impacts There are multiple points of entry and exit into the parking area allowing for easy traffic circulation There will be bicycle and electric vehicle parking spaces included as part of the project The site is easily accessible from the 101 as well as the rest of the city There are many public transit stops nearby. It's also in a walkable area to other shops and services And there are 51 Parking spaces available on site and only 48 are needed. So again, there's more parking than is needed for that site Here is the site plan for the project It came to my attention earlier today that the site plans that were in your original packet Were not the most up-to-date version. So earlier tonight. You should have just received the updated plans And I also have some extra copies in the back for the public if anyone would like to get some copies of that But here again, this just shows how the Two existing buildings Suites rather will be combined into one to make way for the new dispensary It shows how you can access the parking area from both sides there on cleveland avenue And it also shows where the various different types of spaces will be And how this should not impact the drive-through area of the el poyo loco And Here with regards to safety and security. We had a security plan Created by bay alarm who would be providing security services for the property Earlier we mentioned that we're you know considering possibly Removing part of the glass walls for security purposes if that's uh, you know if we're able to do that Additionally, we've looked into Break-resistant 3m film that can be placed over the glass for added security So there are certainly options rather than just removing the glass entirely although that's also an option to just increase the security facility The glass will be covered in some sort of frosting material. So it will not be Transparent so you can't just be able to see inside The facility as as is required by state and local law. There will be commercial grade locks There will be fire alarms gurgling alarms surveillance cameras motion sensor lighting all as required There will be designated limited access areas And there will be an on-site security guard as required It currently there are Some members of the homeless community that have started living on the site because it's currently vacant So as as part of this project loitering and camping on the property would be prohibited And the current homeless population would be directed towards shelters and other services and by Taking this vacant spot and putting a business in it that has security patrols and cameras and things like that That would eliminate this problem. There wouldn't be any more People living outside the building The slide shows the proposed floor plan of the building We have already discussed about it. So I don't need to spend too much time But I do just want to note that there's a nice large retail slash waiting area The idea behind this is we wanted to create a very comfortable environment a very tasteful environment Where one can feel relaxed but also feel like you're in a you know, a high class Environment we are in wine country. We're trying to get quality products boutique But also comfortable was the idea that was behind this so not being in some cramped space Really having some room to spread out have some couches in there make it a comfortable place But at the same time there would be limits on how long someone can stay there You can't just come hang out there. So that would that would be enforced The elevations You have already seen and we've already discussed again Not too many changes to the exterior as it is a new building that already looks nice considering the arounding uses But perhaps Removing some of the glass certainly removing the second entrance door as that will not be needed anymore And there is the other side Some interior renderings just to give you an idea of what it might look like when it's finished Just the sense of the vibe that we were going for here with this You can see I have some additional photos there just ideas some concepts Neighborhood compatibility is very important in this process This is certainly compatible with the surrounding uses. This is a commercial business in a commercial area It is a standalone building. So you don't have any issues with shared walls with other businesses The security features that are going to be added will only improve and enhance the safety of the surrounding area As was noted this area of the city was damaged very heavily by the fires last year two years ago now year and a half And so there's a need of revitalization. And so this this project would help to revitalize that area There wasn't a neighborhood meeting because it was not required. There are no residences nearby There was outreach done to the neighboring businesses The owner of el pollo loco wrote a letter in support of this business and also been talking with some other neighboring businesses And as mentioned, there are no schools or other sensitive receptives nearby Here's the letter that I mentioned from the owner of el pollo loco the building directly adjacent on the same parcel stating that they are in favor of this proposal an odor control plan was provided by a licensed engineer And they are proposing that we use negative pressure and carbon filtration They say that is will be sufficient Especially considering the fact that there will not be any smoking or vaporizing on sites The only on site consumption again would be limited to edibles and topicals, which typically don't have that much of an odor Additionally, there will not be any packaging of cannabis on site Everything will arrive at the facility pre-packaged and ready to go So we do not anticipate their beat at that odors will be a problem However, there will be negative pressure and carbon filtration systems used as is industry standard As that is required in terms of involvement in the community Humanity wellness is committed to supporting local charities So we've already done outreach to the living room and social advocates of youth to non-profit organizations here in santa rosa that work with at-risk youth and their families and women Additionally, you know, we're committed to supporting food banks and fire relief organizations, especially being located in that part of the city We do plan to implement a local hiring preference, which i'll discuss in a minute And also to work with law enforcement to support community events and programs kind of bridging that gap. I think The years of prohibition has created a mindset of People in this community in the cannabis community might not always Trust the police or get along with them and that's not correct The law enforcement is there to protect and serve and help us and so creating events Where we can kind of join the community with law enforcement and find ways to work together while benefiting the larger community something that we'd really like to explore and Rodney does have past experience doing work like this in the central valley. He was involved in Helping to organize some national night out events over there Which have really benefited the community and he hopes to you know, we hope to continue doing something like that here in santa rosa In terms of our local hiring program Humanity wellness does wish to hire Whenever possible from santa rosa And that will be first where we'll try to hire from and then from greater sinoma county Community additionally to pay them a living wage. This is something that we know is very important to the city And it's also very important to the applicant Approximately, there'll be approximately eight employees to start Plans to grow the staff over time as things as the business grows And most if not all of these staff will be full time and eligible for benefits And the applicant may hire part-time staff as needed, but will not rely on part-time labor Again, that's something that is very important to the applicant The projected salary range just to be both realistic But also wanting to pay people well is roughly 15 to 30 dollars depending on experience and job function And in terms of discount programs Each week humanity wellness does plan to hold appreciation days when senior citizens and military veterans can receive discounts on their cannabis goods Of course, we also want to care for the environments and the project includes numerous green business practices such as Installing water saving faucets and toilets utilizing energy efficient light fixtures Installing electric vehicle and bike parking spots and implementing a recycling program And so in conclusion, uh, I just ask that you accept the staff recommendation and approve the humanity wellness dispensary project Thank you Happy to answer any questions Any questions of the applicant right now? Yeah, kind of sure peterson Um, I'm looking at you mentioned it, but I'm also it's also listed on page 20 22 of your project narrative Why is there a 15 minute limit for on-site consumption? Sure, so the idea behind that was the room that's going to be used as the on-site consumption room is is pretty small And we were concerned about it getting too busy in the room And there'd just be too many people wanting to use the room and it not being large enough So we figured by asking people to only spend 15 minutes in there Um, you know, not there's not going to be a timer at exactly 15 minutes But try to limit your time there to 15 minutes to allow someone else the chance to go in and utilize this space Just because it is a small room So a related follow-up question. So my concern is To show my hand in a location like this that While there are transit options is fairly hostile to pedestrians bicyclists and Realistically necessitates the use of a car You the again the project narrative mentions, you know, looking for the abc's signs of intoxication to gauge patient intoxication My concern is People come in consume and get the boot and then drive away Increasing the risk of intoxicated driving Can you it's not a very good question, but can you try and address that issue a little bit? Sure Well, that is certainly something that's going to be an issue with any facility that poses on-site consumption Whether or not they set a time limit on how long you can stay there To try to address this We in our in our narrative We do say that we will be Alerting people that if they plan to use the on-site consumption area that you plan alternate ways of getting home Do not consume and then drive home that will there be signs posted that say that people will be Alerted about that and we will be giving out, you know the number for taxi cab companies people will be encouraged to take Uber home after they've used the on-site consumption area So that is the best that is how we've addressed that at this point Thank you So in looking at your your plans it doesn't look like there's a sallyport on there for when Deliveries arrive. Can you go into some of the security measures as is reasonable? I don't tip all of your hand on how you're going to be secure, but uh, so When deliveries arrive how that is Unloaded Sure. So when the when a vehicle carrying deliveries arrives at the facility It will most likely based on the recommendations of the traffic study They will utilize the cleveland avenue To kind of park Temporarily and do the unloading process There will be cameras mounted on all corners of the building that are able to see entirely around the building So all of this will be monitored on camera. There is a back door to the facility that is a uh the staff the back entrance that goes to the storage area of the facility basically that is Only accessible to employees And that would be that secure entrance through the back would be where deliveries would be brought in And they would there would need to be an employee of the facility there to check the Delivery in and it would follow just the standard state procedures for Deliveries to the facility Did that answer your question i'm happy to elaborate So just to clarify they would park on cleveland avenue and then transport the goods to the back door um, so the The original They could park on cleveland avenue if that is required of them I believe that there was something in the traffic study that said that Delivery vehicles would have to use cleveland the cleveland avenue entrance But I I do want to note that the traffic study i'm just pulling it up here right now That was referring to delivery vehicles that I believe are much larger than the typical vehicle that will be delivering cannabis goods Cannabis distribution might be coming to this facility and perhaps a van Size vehicle not a not a very large truck So access uh in that sense I do think it would be feasible for a van to simply park In the parking lot at the closest spot to that back door and then have all of that Take place on camera with an employee present the security Person will be on site there watching this all happen as well. It will be on camera um, and That is how that would take place Any other questions of the applicant? Okay, great. Thank you very much So this is a public hearing tonight. I'm going to go ahead and open the public hearing if there are any members of the public That wish to speak you can go to a microphone And I don't think there are any left So I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing and bring it back to the commission Any other questions of staff or the applicant? Yeah, come sure. Okay. Yeah, and looking at the map on the applicant's presentation it's obviously not the greatest quality but in the the setbacks From the one from the applicant that was approved application that was approved at the airway location last week I mean it basically looks like a van diagram almost, but I'm sure there's It's because it's so small. Can you how are those more than 600 feet away from each other or? This was a non competitive application So when at first when all the applications first came in it was screened It was more than 600 feet from the closest other proposed facility Any other questions of staff or the applicant? Okay So would somebody like to move a resolution for the purposes of discussion? Okay, everybody loves this part of the job Um I can move a resolution of the planning commission of the city of santa rosa approving a conditional use permit for humanity wellness a medical and adult use retail cannabis dispensary with delivery and on site consumption In an existing 2000 square foot building at 3791 cleveland avenue Assessors personal number 148-041-028 found number 18-049 and way further reading of the task text And do I have a second? Second Okay Jumped out there commissioner callia seconded. So that was moved by vice chair weeks Seconded by commissioner callia mr. Calli. Why don't you start? Sure Um, I think this is I can make all the appropriate findings for this project. I think it was put uh put together quite well um, I really appreciate the community benefits aspect of this uh proposal and um And the local hiring plan specifically so it's very important. Thank you Vice chair weeks I'm also going to be supporting the proposal. Um, I think it was a really good application a lot of information Which is helpful to us And the fact that you are proposing Primarily have full-time employees with benefits. I think it's a real plus to the community. So thank you for that Commissioner Pearson Well, I think I think it's a great-looking building. I think it's a very comprehensive application Like commissioner weeks, I like hearing a you know local living wage With benefits not relying on part-time labor The the trouble I I have with this one and the trouble I had with the the last on-site consumption is is the location and I know That it's allowable I know that this is is compliant, but I really struggle with a location like This that again, I think you know necessarily requires the use of a car and in santa rosa Realistically means you're probably driving yourself. I think the applicants taken all all the Steps that are are reasonable and then there are bars around there. There are bars All throughout santa rosa that require driving. I think they're equally a bad idea I think on-site consumption is a perfectly good idea in the right location It's it's I'm I'm really having a tough time With that. I just I think that location Is just not not great when it comes to on-site consumption I'd like to hear from my fellow commissioners before I make a a final Commitment one way or the other Yeah, so as a former current As somebody who lived in coffee park I echo the concerns of my fellow commissioner. I look at the date of this traffic study and December 28th of 2018 is far different than october 9th 2017. So in that community is rebuilt when there's Uh, the businesses are rebuilt. It's going to be a On-site consumption is going to be a concern because traffic will inherently increase Also with the The uncertainty of how distribution will will work the unloading of product and for from deliveries Um, I'm very very familiar with this area and parking on Cleveland Avenue is not a wise idea just from a safety standpoint From passing cars and so I'm also having trouble with this as well I'd like to hear what the chair has to say before I make my final decision Well I definitely respect commissioner pierce's concern and and and how he you know, he he has put forth in projects in the past about The appropriate place for on-site consumption and walkability and transit and all Unfortunately, santa rosa doesn't really have that as well done as we would and we could end up precluding a lot of these uses If that's the criteria that we're going to apply so With that in mind, um You know and again, there are bars. I mean there there are people that are intoxicated I think we have to look at personal responsibility. I have to we have to look at how the applicant, you know Looks out for their clientele Is more in keeping with For me then in denying the use speak just because of the nature of santa rosa as it stands right now, so I believe I can make the findings For this as it stands with the on-site consumption I do get the delivery issue. I'm glad that you asked about that I definitely think cleveland is difficult but I also hear that's not going to we're not talking big trucks that are going to be coming along there and that You know the the security of What was told to me because I had an issue with one that didn't have sally board Was it's not that different than a jewelry store or you know or whatever? So there are ways that you can make a secure, you know entrance and exit with a delivery So I'm able to make the findings for this and I'll be voting for it Questioner Pearson you want to say anything else? Um I have Apologize for doing this so late in the game. Maybe a question for counsel About the dram shop act Whether it applies to say that what council? The dram shop act so for bars and liability For serving people Is it is it about the question if this if there's like city liability for no, no So the dram I've opened the can of worms. It's not determinative for my decision For what it's worth merely So bars are generally in california not liable for people driving drunk Is that true for cannabis has that been extended to your knowledge to my knowledge? It's correct that the laws And the applicant may know more but my understanding is the laws that apply to Consumption of alcohol apply equally to cannabis and similarly for DUI arrests and things such as that although I understand it's not as easy to give a test or something for a for a DUI But if there are signs of intoxication it would be the same Penalties if you will for driving under the influence of alcohol or cannabis Thank you. That's that's what I was looking for So so with that minor detour, I think that The chair and my fellow commissioners have made very important points about this And going back to the first item we had, you know, this Decision we make is based on The ordinance has written and the ordinance has written as much as I may not Like it does not limit On-site consumption to specific locations Um, so I think With that I'll be able to make all the necessary findings for this project Mr. O'Cropkey, uh, yeah, I think the chair's Education on or I guess metaphor similarly, whichever one it is Likening it to a jewelry store or something like that that that makes me a little bit more At ease about that portion. I'm still uneasy about the traffic portion Just because I know that area before and after the fire and However, as uh, commissioner Peterson said that shouldn't preclude me from From making all the findings. So I will likely I will be voting in the affirmative of this application Okay So with that we have the resolution moved by vice chair weeks seconded by commissioner calia and your votes, please And that passes with five eyes commissioners dug in and Edmondson being absent And I believe that concludes this item and concludes our meeting will adjourn to our february 14th valentine's day